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Title: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 25, 2016, 03:31:19 PM
- Record lovers of the World DTF Unite ! -

I just got a turntable again after many years of using CDs and MiniDisc.

So Far I have the following Records :

* The Police - Ghost In The Machine - very old - not good sound but I had it back when i was a kid with one of those all in one Hifi with double cassette, Radio and turntable on top :)

I didn't really look after my records back then.

* Dire Straits - On Every Street - sounds a bit better but still 25 years old and not looked after.

* Green Day Revolution Radio & American idiot - both are brand new and sound great.

* Mastodon - Blood Mountain Green Vinyl. Also brand new - sounds GREAT. Almost no noise at all.

I've also got Metallica - Hardwired to Self Destruct, Green Day - Nimrod & Mastodon - Once More Round The Sun on the way :)


Share your vinyl collection / stories / cleaning tips !!

I also bought one of those really soft velvety brushes for keeping my vinyl clean.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: SoundscapeMN on December 25, 2016, 03:59:48 PM
I have been making Vinyl videos for over 2 years on YouTube (usually embedded in my blog), and been collecting regularly since I met my wife in 2011.

How many? including 7, 10 and 12" 45's, pictures discs, probably 500 or 600.

Sadly, I have not been able to listen to them given my living situation and in the interest to avoid disturbing my neighbors; but hopefully the next place I move to I should have a setup to do so.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: dparrott on December 27, 2016, 08:53:00 AM
I have about 95% of Blur's vinyl releases, otherwise from the bands I like I get colored vinyl or vinyl with exclusive songs.  Total collection is between 100-200 I guess.  Don't have time to listen to them, and now my player is broken, belt came off inside during the last move.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: orcus116 on December 27, 2016, 03:16:46 PM
I also got a turntable and speaker setup for Christmas. I've had a small collection of records for awhile but never had a means to play them. I've picked through my parents collection but sadly two of the three crates were pretty much destroyed in a flood about ten years ago and took a lot of good albums with it. I did manage to find this which, I mean, why wouldn't I take this?

(https://i.imgur.com/JjOKmO5.jpg)

Going to head to a record store tomorrow and pick up a few essentials.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: PROGdrummer on December 27, 2016, 05:13:37 PM
Newest additions to my vinyl collection thanks to Christmas generosity from family members :laugh:

The Contortionist - Language: Rediscovered (2LP with acoustic re-recordings on Sun Yellow vinyl)
Genesis - Nursery Cryme (2008 remaster)
Opeth - Atonement/Demon of the Fall live (7" from the Book of Opeth)


I think I've been collecting for like 3-4 years now? I've got 61 albums on vinyl, mostly 70s prog and 80s metal. Everything from Asia to Zappa.  A few newer releases like Fallujah's latest album that I picked up at a show just to support the band, and Spellcaster's 'Night Hides The World', because I knew it would sound great on my sound system and it looks sick (purple smokey swirl design), and Bjork's Homogenic, among others.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 06:05:55 PM
I miss the good old days taping quarters to the needle so the record doesn't skip.  ;D
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 27, 2016, 06:44:30 PM
I miss the good old days taping quarters to the needle so the record doesn't skip.  ;D

My Dad properly balanced my stylus.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 07:36:23 PM
That's something every good father should do. :lol
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: orcus116 on December 27, 2016, 07:47:13 PM
If a record pops is it forever fucked? I have my parents A Night At The Opera and it pops so bad it's unlistenable. Should I just buy a new one?
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 07:49:27 PM
If a record pops is it forever fucked? I have my parents A Night At The Opera and it pops so bad it's unlistenable. Should I just buy a new one?
Yes. There's a reason CDs came into existence.

You can try and clean it. Try some rubbing alcohol on a cloth.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: sneakyblueberry on December 28, 2016, 04:24:48 AM
i had a decent collection that i lost in a house fire :(  now I kinda just pick em up here and there, I'm not super into it like I used to be.  I have a decent set up though, and some nice speakers in my living room set up so it's always a joy.

In my little crate at the moment I have:

Genesis - ... And Then There Were Three
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
Opeth - Sorceress
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Michael Jackson - Off the Wall (Japanese pressing, which I'm told are always good... *shrug*)
Bob Marley - Kaya
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Spook the Horses - Flood
The Beatles - The Beatles (White Album)
Joanna Newsom - Ys (my favourite of all time, which my youngest daughter took the liberty of scratching the shit out of... nice.)
A couple of random 'golden hits' collections, which usually have a handful of good tracks on them.

random collection.  all of these records are excellent for rolling spliffs on though.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 04:36:28 AM
Green Day - Nimrod & Mastodon - Once More Round The Sun arrived :)


I was hoping Nimrod was yellow vinyl but it wasn't.



(https://i.imgur.com/VUwtcOn.jpg)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: red barchetta on December 28, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
I still own 147 vinyles.  I used to have about 300 of them but decided to have the very good idea of selling a lot of them in a garage sale 15 years ago.  I still play them on my Akai turntable I bought in 1979.  I have another turntable, a unique one which I bought from a friend in 1984 who had already switched to cd's.  It's a J.A. Michell Eng. Ltd. (new avatar picture)  It has a wire problem since a couple of years so can't play it until a repair.

I have a few collection vinyles like The Pretenders singles, Back on the chain gang and on the other side, My city was gone.  They were recorded on big LP vinyles. I bought it in '83.
And a half speed mastered extended range recording of Boston's first album which I bought in 1984.

Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 11:23:51 AM
Is it true that heavier pressings are better ?



P.S. Just bought Octavarium on Vinyl :)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: orcus116 on December 28, 2016, 01:46:32 PM
Stopped by a nearby record store and was a little taken aback at the amount of, uh, "unloved" records there were. I had planned on buying up a bunch of essentials but there were barely any A-level albums although I did manage to snag a new Pet Sounds. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised because some of the records I was looking for are ones people usually go for first.

Ordered Moby - Play and The Who - The Who Sell Out on Amazon.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: seasonsinthesky on December 28, 2016, 01:48:14 PM
Is it true that heavier pressings are better ?

P.S. Just bought Octavarium on Vinyl :)

I ordered SDOIT recently. Spent way too long without pulling the trigger because Enjoy the Ride promised a crazy nice triple gatefold press whenever they get to it, but then they didn't get to it this year, and I don't like the graphic design job they did with FII and I&W. No matter the authenticity or sourcing issues levelled against Music on Vinyl, they at least spend the time/money to get the art right, and fade the audio at the starts/ends of sides when required. And they use the same sources as ETR, since they have the exact same audio on their version of FII as ETR.

Heavier than 180g is a waste of vinyl. The benefits of extra weight fizzle out once you get heavier than that because you monumentally increase the risk of non-fill, where the cutting lathe has difficulty with the thick vinyl and doesn't write all of the audio into grooves the way it's supposed to. If you do a >180g pressing with a place that offers superior quality control, like King Crimson seem to do, then it's fine; but if you can't afford that level of service or you don't want to pass that buck onto your fans, >180 is a bad choice. The supposed quality increase is mostly marketing crap – the sound of an LP is tied specifically to the mastering and lathe cutting engineers, the virginity of the vinyl pellets (seriously), and the pellet colours used.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 01:48:19 PM
I'm loving ordering records and unwrapping them when they arrive.

I got one of those velvet-y foam brushes for them too and give them a gentle wipe over before I play them.

i don't think i will buy any second hand vinyl as you never know how it will sound til you get it home.

Octavarium ordered. Will be here in a few days :)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 01:51:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0xdNDqXgAAe6KM.jpg)




Heavier than 180g is a waste of vinyl.

My Blood Mountain record is green :) and it sounded great. Hardly any crackle or pops. I hope I can keep them that way.  I only touch them by the very edge and give them a wipe with a very soft cloth before and after playing and have them facing upwards in the sleeve. Although maybe facing the spine would be better as there's nothing exposed at all then.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: orcus116 on December 28, 2016, 01:54:26 PM
i don't think i will buy any second hand vinyl as you never know how it will sound til you get it home.


I agree to an extent because it really depends on the store. I went to an antique place yesterday that had an old book and vinyl section. Very disorganized, a lot of really beat up looking covers, but I paid $8 for two records knowing it was a crap shoot. I listened to one and it was slightly poppy but I kind of expected that. On the flip side the owner of the store I went to today said that he makes sure his records are in good shape and that there were a ton of records he either didn't buy or put out for sale because they were crappy quality.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 02:00:20 PM
It's mad how music of such high fidelity can be imprinted onto a disc of plastic and read back with a tiny needle.

Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: seasonsinthesky on December 28, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
You need some polysleeves, bro. Then you can keep the discs outside the gatefold and thereby prevent cover wear!
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: ytserush on December 29, 2016, 07:00:53 PM
90 percent of my records are Rush, Marillion and Dream Theater.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 30, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
You need some polysleeves, bro. Then you can keep the discs outside the gatefold and thereby prevent cover wear!

I might buy a record case soon. I've seen some on Amazon for £35 for 100 records.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: orcus116 on December 30, 2016, 09:25:29 PM
You need some polysleeves, bro. Then you can keep the discs outside the gatefold and thereby prevent cover wear!

I definitely need to pick some up especially since they're so cheap.

Also I can see vinyl collecting will become an expensive hobby for me. I went looking at the "best" copy of The Who Sell Out and people are selling it for $150+. I just opted for the cheaper remaster.

Does anyone have any recommendations on needle replacement/care? I have an Audio-Technica LP60 so it's not a super expensive turntable but it works beautifully for what I need. They recommend changing the needle after 400 hours of play so is that a hard cap or can you get some more mileage out of it? It just seems like an oil change on a car.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on December 31, 2016, 04:56:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1AEspeWgAEYtla.jpg)




 :metal
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2017, 05:10:33 AM
I thought that as a fan of high quality music - the crackling would annoy me a bit - but if I clean the record well before I play it - it's usually only between songs I hear it.

LATEST PURCHASE :


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1zqW-ZXgAAa17K.jpg)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: ich bin besser on January 10, 2017, 07:40:12 AM
My collection can be found in my sig. Quite some of those are still back from the 80s. Nowadays, I mostly try to go for vinyl.

For cleaning, I still have one of those (Nagaoka Rolling Cleaner RC-100 - still working great):

(https://www.pickupnaalden.com/images/pict/nagaoka/5929/nagaoka-cl1000-rolling-cleaner_1.jpg)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2017, 09:27:14 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ArSpYGL4L.jpg)



I use this. I gently hold it from centre to edge - so widthways - and just let the record spin underneath it - I let it turn and do this for a minute or two before I play any record.

My records look shiny afterwards.....



(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1z3eQLWIAABf5X.jpg)


I like how the light in the grooves looks like a digital waveform. Very Anachronistic.  :coolio
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: cfmoran13 on January 10, 2017, 12:10:49 PM
Congrats on the turntable!  I got a new turntable for Christmas - Teac NT-300.  I'm pretty psyched.  Other than DT's Falling Into Infinity, I hadn't purchased a new record in over 20 years.  Since Christmas, I purchased KISS - Destroyer Resurrected and received Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger for free with my purchase of the 25th anniversary remaster CD.

As far as what I have, it isn't much.  Off the top of my head, in addition to the above, I have:
 - Every KISS album from the debut album through Alive III (all original vinyl)
 - KISS - Christeen Sixteen 45rpm
 - Police - Synchronicity
 - Phil Collins - Face Value, No Jacket Required
 - Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
 - Quiet Riot - Condition Critical
 - Van Halen - VH II
 - Van Halen - Black and Blue 45rpm
 - Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation
 - Billy Joel - 52nd Street, Greatest Hits Vol I and II
 - Jimmy Page - Outrider
 - Led Zeppelin - II (not original, purchased in '80's)
 - Def Leppard - Animal, Pour Some Sugar On Me, Hysteria 45rpm's
 - The Monkees - Last Train To Clarksville, Valerie, I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone 45rpm's (one other I can't remember)
 - Star Wars - Christmas In The Stars
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2017, 12:45:56 PM
Death Magnetic by Metallica sort of kicked off my interest in high quality music again.

I heard that Vinyls aren't mastered as hot as digital so sound better. ( So for that reason at least - the saying is true...)...

And I love the smell and cleaning them - changing over at the end of a side. The big artwork and coloured vinyl / double gatefold packaging.

Getting one from amazon and opening it. They always come wrapped in polythene so I know they're brand spanking new.

The turntable was given to me from Dad. it was just sitting on a windowsill at his house for years. Worked fine !

It just needed a slipmat and a teeny tiny resistor soldered onto the PCB as it wouldn't go 33.

Also a slight stylus lever balancing ( I had no idea bout any of that ) and I was off.

:)

Mine is a Garrard DQ100.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2017, 12:48:48 PM

So Far I have the following Records :

* The Police - Ghost In The Machine - very old - not good sound but I had it back when i was a kid with one of those all in one Hifi with double cassette, Radio and turntable on top :)

I didn't really look after my records back then.

* Dire Straits - On Every Street - sounds a bit better but still 25 years old and not looked after.

* Green Day Revolution Radio & American idiot - both are brand new and sound great.

* Mastodon - Blood Mountain Green Vinyl. Also brand new - sounds GREAT. Almost no noise at all.

I've also got Metallica - Hardwired to Self Destruct, Green Day - Nimrod & Mastodon - Once More Round The Sun on the way :)


I've not got Metallica yet - But I can now add

* Green Day - Nimrod

* Mastodon - Once More Round The Sun

* Mastodon - The Hunter

Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: PROGdrummer on January 10, 2017, 04:41:41 PM
The only thing better than getting one of your favorite albums on vinyl is getting something you've never heard before at a cheap price.
Went to the record store today, here's my haul:

The Moody Blues - On The Threshold of a Dream
Horrendous - Ecdysis
Jon Anderson - Animation

Never heard of Horrendous, guess theyre an underground Pennsylvania band (support your local metal scene!), had to get it just because of how rad the artwork is. Luckily the music is really great too :metal
On the Threshold of a Dream was quite the trip, and sounded fantastic. I'll have to hear this one again soon.
Haven't listened to the Jon album yet but I'll get to it eventually.

(https://i.imgur.com/7XI7I6p.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Dxp63w9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gLctmYq.jpg)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
I don't think i'll buy a 2nd hand record. Brand new all the way.


I need more coloured vinyl. I've only one so far. Amazon doesn't always say if a record is coloured or black ( lol ) ...
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: PROGdrummer on January 10, 2017, 04:54:38 PM
I don't think i'll buy a 2nd hand record. Brand new all the way.


I need more coloured vinyl. I've only one so far. Amazon doesn't always say if a record is coloured or black ( lol ) ...

See, but I love having relics from the past. I don't mind wiping the dust off an album that probably hasnt been spun in 40 something years, and listening to an original pressing of an all-time classic, snaps, crackles and pops included.

Honestly, most of the second-hand stuff I buy doesn't even sound bad at all. The only used album I ever bought that ACTUALLY sounded like shit was Rainbow - Long Live Rock and Roll. The hissing on it was so bad that it was actually louder than the music.

I'd argue that alot of the old stuff I have sounds better than the newer stuff, but I'm sure the production and recording has the most to do with that. They were really working with magic back then, every instrument BREATHES so well on almost every 70s/80s album I own.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2017, 04:57:47 PM
Yeah I like records a lot. But i'm still a bit of an audiophile and want it to be as clear as poss - without listening to a CD :P
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Mosh on January 10, 2017, 07:53:20 PM
I just check the records before buying them. If you go to record conventions and such where the people selling take good care of their records then you should be fine.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: 7th on January 10, 2017, 11:22:02 PM
Got a 200g Led Zep III with the original wheel cover for xmas.  Nice addition to the ever growing collection!
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Tiko on January 11, 2017, 01:24:15 AM
Don't worry guys, cracks & pops are most likely dust. A good cleaning will do miracles. I've been collecting for some years now after I got a Garrard 301 from my grandfather. After googling around I found that the motor unit alone was worth over 2000 euros so I decided to keep it and put together a new configuration. Love it.

Before
(https://i.imgur.com/991k0lN.jpg)

After
(https://i.imgur.com/mI5w8pC.jpg)

I have about 30 records now with some rare ones too. I only collect albums I really really like, so I won't grow a huge collection.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: cfmoran13 on January 12, 2017, 06:51:21 AM
My mom was showing me her vinyl collection last night.  She has an original copy of Carol King's 'Tapestry'.  She had a few Rolling Stones greatest hits collections (Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) and Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969)), some Elvis Presley albums, Beach Boys, etc.  She said I could have them.  However, only God knows when that day is gonna come.  She seemed so proud of them, she didn't look like she'll be handing them over anytime soon.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: ich bin besser on January 12, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
After
(https://i.imgur.com/mI5w8pC.jpg)

Wow, very nice!!  :tup
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: PROGdrummer on January 12, 2017, 11:20:35 AM
I was thinking about buying the new Sepultura album on vinyl, but I'm probably not going to based on how they made it. 

They stretched out 45 minutes of music over 4 sides, three sides being actual music and the fourth side being an 'etching', which I think is really dumb. If you can fit all the music neatly onto one disc, just put it on one disc. Otherwise I feel like it's a waste of vinyl and packaging, and I'm kind of annoyed by how many albums I own that are double LPs with only 12 minutes a side.

Does this bother anyone else?
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 12, 2017, 11:36:57 AM
A few of my new records are 3 songs per side - Octavarium being one.

It doesn't bother me but yeah i'd rather have half and half or split evenly over two discs.

I'm listening to The Hunter by Mastodon and that's 6 songs per side :tup

Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: seasonsinthesky on January 12, 2017, 12:12:47 PM
I was thinking about buying the new Sepultura album on vinyl, but I'm probably not going to based on how they made it. 

They stretched out 45 minutes of music over 4 sides, three sides being actual music and the fourth side being an 'etching', which I think is really dumb. If you can fit all the music neatly onto one disc, just put it on one disc. Otherwise I feel like it's a waste of vinyl and packaging, and I'm kind of annoyed by how many albums I own that are double LPs with only 12 minutes a side.

Does this bother anyone else?

It does bother me when the artist/label don't maximize playing time per side.

However, there can be benefits. If the sides are shorter because it's being cut at 45 instead of 33 RPM, you get a sound quality upgrade, but a shorter runtime. If the album is short anyway, may as well.

The worst is when it has to be a double but just barely, so you end up with like 13 minutes on each side. It allows sound quality to stay up but you're flipping almost twice as often.

Then again, an overstuffed single LP is probably the worst of all (assuming it's pressed in stereo). Mastodon are bad for this. So is Atom Heart Mother, for those counting – the 2016 reissue definitely should have done ATM side 1, Fat Old Sun/Alan's side 2, then a 7" for the remaining two songs. You simply can't make a 28-minute side sound good and be at the right volume.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 12, 2017, 12:16:53 PM
I have 3 Mastodon LPs and they all sound great to me ?
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: ytserush on January 13, 2017, 04:51:05 PM
I just check the records before buying them. If you go to record conventions and such where the people selling take good care of their records then you should be fine.

It's been ages since I been to one of these. I don't think they have them anymore. I should check.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 18, 2017, 04:31:24 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2cxgKCXUAIiHOn.jpg:large)



Today's delivery. :)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: twosuitsluke on January 18, 2017, 04:40:26 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2cxgKCXUAIiHOn.jpg:large)



Today's delivery. :)

This is where Green Day lost me. I was a huge fan for years and American Idiot is one of my most listened to albums of all time but I wasn't a fan of 21st Century Breakdown. I haven't really liked anything I've heard since then either, shame really.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 18, 2017, 04:51:20 AM
I don't like it as much as American Idiot but it's still good. They don't do "terrible" albums.


Try Revolution Radio. It's the best album they've done since American idiot.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: twosuitsluke on January 18, 2017, 05:09:47 AM
I don't like it as much as American Idiot but it's still good. They don't do "terrible" albums.


Try Revolution Radio. It's the best album they've done since American idiot.

I did listen to a few of the songs but they didn't exactly want to make me listen to the album. I should probably give them a try and not write them off completely. There's just so much good new music out there that if I don't feel the urge to listen to an album after hearing a few songs then I won't waste my time on it.

I know singles don't always represent the best that an album has to offer though. Recommend me what you think is the best song and I'll give it a listen. If it sucks though it'll be your fault that I never give the album a chance  :lol   
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 18, 2017, 05:12:04 AM
Meh everything is my fault.... ::)


Listen to " Too Dumb to Die " and " Forever Now "... :)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: twosuitsluke on January 18, 2017, 05:27:08 AM
Meh everything is my fault.... ::)


Listen to " Too Dumb to Die " and " Forever Now "... :)

Too Dumb to Die wasn't that great but I liked Forever Now a bit more  :biggrin:
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 18, 2017, 05:31:06 AM
Those are my two faves on the album. :)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 18, 2017, 03:52:22 PM
Gotta say - 21st Century Breakdown sounds better on Vinyl.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 19, 2017, 09:55:44 AM
Gotta say - 21st Century Breakdown sounds better on Vinyl.

It's a nice thick 180 gram vinyl too. Feels substantial and sounds crystal clear.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl and Green Day...Kinda..
Post by: Kotowboy on January 21, 2017, 05:33:49 PM
Woo Hoo I just bought Green Day - dookie on Vinyl ! :D
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2017, 09:16:22 AM
Fine i'll just go ahead and continue to talk to myself :P :P


(https://i.imgur.com/4KnOfVe.jpg)





Just found this in a charity shop for £1.50. In really good nick. Someone looked after it. I gave it a wipe with a damp record brush and it's sounding pretty good !

I said i wouldn't buy 2nd hand vinyl - but things like this are OK in my book. I meant rock records that are 2nd hand. I kinda don't mind the crackling if it's really old records like this.

:)
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: ich bin besser on February 01, 2017, 09:25:18 AM
Hmm, I don't see any pic...

Tomorrow, I should get the new PoS (in silver), Haken's Aquarius (clear) und Visions (white).

Also on order: 3 Magic Pie vinyls and Porcupine Tree The Delerium Years 1991-1993 (9 LP box).

 :hat




 
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2017, 10:38:42 AM
Try it now - I changed the host.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: nobloodyname on February 01, 2017, 12:48:48 PM
I love buying second hand vinyl. Only today, The Mission's Neverland arrived. Hopefully by the weekend I'll also have Motley Crue's Dr Feelgood and the original pressing of Zep's The Song Remains the Same in my sticky mitts. I grew up at the tail-end of the vinyl era (born in 73) so trawling record shops was something my school friends and I loved to do. Nowadays it's mostly scouring Discogs.

Modern day vinyl often feels a bit phoney to me. Doesn't stop me buying it, though ;)
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2017, 12:50:51 PM
I bought a nice heavy 180 gram album the other day. Think it was Mastodon or Green Day. Just felt nice and sounded great.

Dunno what would be "phoney" about modern records. They're made exactly the same way as they've always been.

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Post by: nobloodyname on February 01, 2017, 12:56:29 PM
Oh, there's nothing literally phoney about it. It just lacks history; the feeling that you're holding a piece of time, if you will. Of course, it will have its turn one day.
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2017, 01:02:46 PM
I only got a record player last year. I've had one before many moons ago when i were nought but a teen.

But getting records has been really fun. I'm something of an audiophile and I clean them thoroughly each time I play them.

I just got Dookie on vinyl and because it's from 1994 - it's not mastered as loud as modern records and therefore there is quite a lot of rumble in between songs.

Fine when the song is playing but irks the audiophile in me when the song is really quiet and you can hear the rumble and crackle underneath :p

If I can afford it i think i'll buy new records instead of CDs. At least *nowadays* they'll sound better than CD due to the mastering and you get bigger artwork...

PLUS - I can always hear a digital version either on Spotify OR if Amazon offers an MP3 download of the vinyl :)


Best Of Both Worlds.


( Mr. Worf...Fire...)
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Post by: nobloodyname on February 01, 2017, 01:15:38 PM
I can only empathise regarding the rumble!

The main attraction of vinyl for me these days is the artwork since I like to hang them on the walls of the outhouse (we did the outhouse up last year, turned it into my guitar/gaming/film/music room/library). Chasing old records just for the artwork can get a bit pricey, though! Finally acquired Justice a few weeks ago for £42 although that's not a bad price for it. I'd wanted it pretty much since 1988 so I don't mind really ;D

I think it's great that people are discovering - and rediscovering - vinyl.
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2017, 01:18:45 PM
Yeah before the loudness wars I was adamant that CD sounded better.

Now that CDs are mastered so loud that there is audible distortion - I'd prefer vinyl as you cannot push them so hard.

Also - I have bought albums on vinyl that have I have consequently enjoyed far more.

21st Century Breakdown by Green Day is a good example. It just sounds so much better. I love it a lot more now.

Plus getting up every 3-5 songs to change the side gives you somewhat of an ear rest.

At least for me as I like to throughly clean the side before playing it.


I bought one of those velvet brush things that comes with a tiny toothbrush for wiping the needle. It's great ! I give it a fine mist spray of soapy water and dry it so it's ever so slightly damp

and it picks up all dirt and cleans the record nicely.


Also - last week I tried giving a 30 year old record a bath as I didn't care about ruining it. I immersed it in slightly soapy lukewarm water and dried it thoroughly with a very soft duster.

Then I held the velvet brush on it for the duration of the running time and it *definitely* sounded better.

I won't go to such extremes for new records though. It was just an experiment.
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Post by: nobloodyname on February 01, 2017, 02:27:06 PM
I dunk all my second hand purchases through the good old Disco Antistat (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Static-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW). Suspect it'd probably unnerve you but it works a charm and is highly recommended by many experienced collectors.

I'd quite like an automatic cleaning machine (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BFCVRGC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2F0KNI28398LS&coliid=I23M4IL90Q0NEW) but at £299 to £349, I've got slightly more pressing requirements at the moment!
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Post by: Mosh on February 01, 2017, 04:34:07 PM
Hmm, I don't see any pic...

Tomorrow, I should get the new PoS (in silver), Haken's Aquarius (clear) und Visions (white).

Also on order: 3 Magic Pie vinyls and Porcupine Tree The Delerium Years 1991-1993 (9 LP box).

 :hat
I preordered the two Haken albums too but last time with Affinity they didn't ship until the day of release. I'm assuming it's the same with this one and i won't be getting it until the end of the month.
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2017, 04:39:40 PM
I don't mind getting the new Mastodon late since I can hear it on Spotify on release day anyway.

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Post by: ich bin besser on February 02, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
Tomorrow, I should get the new PoS (in silver), Haken's Aquarius (clear) und Visions (white).

Yay, arrival!  :tup
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 02, 2017, 04:16:19 PM
Tomorrow, I should get the new PoS (in silver), Haken's Aquarius (clear) und Visions (white).

Yay, arrival!  :tup

Can you post thoughts on side B of Visions when you get a chance to listen? It runs overlong. Kinda worried how it affects the quality.
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Post by: Mosh on February 02, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
Edit: Nevermind
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 03, 2017, 04:23:47 PM
You need some polysleeves, bro. Then you can keep the discs outside the gatefold and thereby prevent cover wear!

I bought 20 poly sleeves for like £3.

I keep the entire record - sleeve jacket and all in side them.

That should keep the dust out.

I have the spine of the record jacket facing the open side of the poly sleeve so the exposed paper sleeve is up against the poly sleeve spine.

Dad is making me a wooden box for about 50 records. That'll keep em nice and upright.
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Post by: gazinwales on February 18, 2017, 07:09:46 PM
Interesting banter about vinyl and rock.
Didn't know Clarkson was such a rock enthusiast.
https://youtu.be/oGGXPa5otgs
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 18, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
I think I necro bumped the wrong thread so I'll copy my post from there:

Bumping this thread. . . What turntable do you guys have. I'm looking to buy one, I have a bunch of records but no record player. Any recommendations?
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Post by: gazinwales on February 18, 2017, 08:48:48 PM
I got mine about 18 months ago, I took almost as long deliberating over which one to get.
Mine is a Rega RP6, made in England, with and external power supply, with an Ortofon orange cartridge.
Title: Re: It's A Thread About Vinyl !
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2017, 11:42:46 AM
Garrard DQ-100

Auto speed adjustment.
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Post by: gazinwales on February 19, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
She looks as good as she sounds.
https://www.audiotrends.com.au/sldigital/shop/images/main_1988.jpg
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 19, 2017, 04:15:21 PM
Standard opening salvo is the AT LP60. A fine cheap table 'tis. Kills any Crosby (but you could do that by licking your finger and running it through the grooves!).
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 05, 2017, 03:57:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dGTIWYa.jpg)

This finally came ! :D
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Post by: Mosh on May 10, 2017, 04:06:26 PM
Great find at the record store yesterday. Somebody sold off their Mastodon collection:
(https://i.imgur.com/0xVqqXc.jpg)
$43 for all 3, Once More was still sealed and the other two looked like they had only been played once or twice. Sound great and the lyric sheets are all there.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2017, 01:45:59 AM
 :metal

Is Blood Mountain green ?
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Post by: Mosh on May 11, 2017, 08:03:23 AM
Nah, they're all black.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2017, 09:35:28 AM
Ahhh. My Blood Mountain is green :)
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on May 12, 2017, 08:06:35 AM
Hey, I've been thinking of getting into vinyl collecting lately & I was wondering what turntables would be good that are under $250 (AUD). Would anyone have any recommendations?
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Post by: Mosh on May 12, 2017, 08:50:16 AM
The U-Turn Orbit is a pretty good entry level player. There's two models and the lower priced one is around that price range IIRC, but you can upgrade the parts over time if you want.

You're going to need more than a turntable though. You'll want speakers and (depending on the turntable) a receiver.
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on May 12, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
You're going to need more than a turntable though. You'll want speakers and (depending on the turntable) a receiver.

Don't most turntables have built-in speakers?
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 12, 2017, 06:58:33 PM
You're going to need more than a turntable though. You'll want speakers and (depending on the turntable) a receiver.

Don't most turntables have built-in speakers?

No way. That's quite rare and often expensive for the (often lacking) sound quality you get from such a thing.
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on May 12, 2017, 07:09:15 PM
You're going to need more than a turntable though. You'll want speakers and (depending on the turntable) a receiver.

Don't most turntables have built-in speakers?

No way. That's quite rare and often expensive for the (often lacking) sound quality you get from such a thing.

:dunno:
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Post by: Mosh on May 12, 2017, 07:50:44 PM
It's actually not rare and I would avoid built in speakers like the plague. You're thinking of "all in one" stuff by companies like Crosley. Those sound bad and they are bad for your records.

Also, it is not a good idea to put the speakers on the same surface as your turntable.
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on May 12, 2017, 08:08:55 PM
It's actually not rare and I would avoid built in speakers like the plague. You're thinking of "all in one" stuff by companies like Crosley. Those sound bad and they are bad for your records.

Does that include the pre-amp option for the turntable you recommended? (Speaking of which, that turntable seems pretty good, but it doesn't ship to Australia so  :\)

I do probably have a few speakers lying around though. I'd just have to find them.
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Post by: Mosh on May 12, 2017, 10:21:13 PM
Doesn't matter where you put the pre-amp. Some turntables even have pre-amps built in.
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Post by: dparrott on May 13, 2017, 10:25:27 AM
Genre-bending group Gorillaz are releasing a 14 vinyl version of their latest album.  One album track on each vinyl with an exclusive bonus on each b-side.  Each vinyl looks to be different colors!!!  :o :o :o

$500  :'(
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Post by: Mosh on May 13, 2017, 11:21:10 AM
That is the most excessive thing I've read in awhile.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 13, 2017, 11:33:30 AM
More excessive than the 12 CD version of Spiritualised "Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space ".

Each CD was like a pill and was in a huge tin foil wrapper resembling a box of medicine and you "pop out" each cd form the foil.

The Box resembled a normal prescription medicine box.


(https://e.snmc.io/lk/l/l/99c559df897c469f79df429f0e25b65f/4262153.jpg)
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Post by: Fritzinger on May 13, 2017, 12:52:02 PM
Genre-bending group Gorillaz are releasing a 14 vinyl version of their latest album.  One album track on each vinyl with an exclusive bonus on each b-side.  Each vinyl looks to be different colors!!!  :o :o :o

$500  :'(


I love Vinyl and Deluxe Box shit nobody needs, but seriously, this is too much. Who's gonna listen to all the 7" vinyls? You can't even listen to the ALBUM as one big piece of work. Instead you have to stand up after every song, unless you have a jukebox.

I just got The American IV by Cash, I love it! I was never into Cash that much really, but that album is just great. Just a guitar and the old wise man singing.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 13, 2017, 12:57:49 PM
If I had dough to burn on £500 vinyl boxsets - i'd get it just to have it and listen to the digital version.

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Post by: Mosh on May 13, 2017, 02:00:59 PM
Genre-bending group Gorillaz are releasing a 14 vinyl version of their latest album.  One album track on each vinyl with an exclusive bonus on each b-side.  Each vinyl looks to be different colors!!!  :o :o :o

$500  :'(


I love Vinyl and Deluxe Box shit nobody needs, but seriously, this is too much. Who's gonna listen to all the 7" vinyls? You can't even listen to the ALBUM as one big piece of work. Instead you have to stand up after every song, unless you have a jukebox.

Not 7"s, 12"s. That's right, a 12" with one song on each side.

I'm pretty sure there are four variations of the main album as well. They also did a repress of Demon Days for Vinyl Me Please (a subscription service so you have to sign up to get the album). They're really milking this comeback for all its worth.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 13, 2017, 02:09:21 PM
Well Damon needs money now that Blur aren't a thing.
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Post by: dparrott on May 13, 2017, 04:06:06 PM
Well Damon needs money now that Blur aren't a thing.

It is if he wants it to be!  TMW was a big comeback, albeit a happy accident.
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Post by: ReaperKK on January 07, 2018, 06:20:18 AM
Bumping this thead.

I got a really nice record player from my gf this Christmas and I'm starting my journey of collecting vinyl. I don't have much currently but I just picked this up: https://equalvision.merchnow.com/products/v2/243900/catch-without-arms-black

Can't wait to grow the collection.
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Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 07, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
ReaperKK, I hope you can find copies of the dredg catalog. From memory, they've become pretty scarce. Catch Without Arms was only pressed a couple of years ago. But Leitmotif, El Cielo and Pariah may require some digging and patience to find (but are well worth getting if you desire).
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Post by: ReaperKK on January 07, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
I already have El Cielo but the thing that really gets me is when I moved to Charlotte I left my Pariah vinyl at my parents (where I was storing some other stuff from college) and it's gone missing. I don't want to spend the money it costs to get it on ebay, I'm just pissed at myself for losing it.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 10, 2018, 01:38:28 PM
Just got an early valentines gift front my girlfriend and it was the score vinyl! Listening to it now, brings back some great memories from thst trip