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Title: Stranger Things
Post by: Skeever on July 21, 2016, 09:17:07 AM
Surprised there's not a thread for this because it's getting hyped EVERYWHERE.

I watched the first two episodes last night and determined, yup, it's just as good as everyone's saying. The Goonies comparisons are evident, but I'm also getting strong John Carpenter vibes. Also, splashes on Twin Peaks.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on July 21, 2016, 10:38:29 AM
I was right about to start one. I finished it a few days ago and loved every second of it, it's my favorite sci/fi show (or movie) I've seen for a long while. I mean, it essential is an 8-part movie. It's amazing; from the music to the direction, the story and acting, every bit of it is meticulously constructed and is a perfect homage to Carptenter (and direct nods to it in the show) and the 80's vibes all around while still retaining a completely fresh feel and not feeling like it's riding off of nostalgia.

Even with all the awesome shows on Netflix and ones that are longer, this might be my favorite.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on July 21, 2016, 10:39:29 AM
I was thinking of making a thread since most of the discussion of this show appeared to happen in the 'What show on Netflix to binge this summer' thread.
I completed the show in the weekend it got released and enjoyed every single episode. It was a great mix of 80s nostalgia without really hammering the era. Very entertaining show that I'm probably going to watch again very soon.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Train of Naught on July 21, 2016, 11:26:22 AM
I love this song!!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: kaos2900 on July 21, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
Going to start this next week after we finish Hell on Wheels.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 21, 2016, 01:29:50 PM
I stumbled upon this while looking to see if Netflix had Shining Time Station, I watched it instead of searching.

Got hooked and watched as much as I could, at night it's way cooler. Finished it and was amazed how good this was. The 8 episode run was just perfect for it.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on July 21, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Gearing up to start this one tonight, very excited considering the friends I have who've already binged the whole thing.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2016, 01:20:12 AM
Started this tonight at 10:00 intending to watch two episodes. Watched 5. Really cool show and Wynona Rider is excellent in this.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on July 23, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
Winona is outstanding for sure.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Finished it up. Solid season, my only complaint would be how quickly it all wrapped up in the last episode....but that was a minor deal. Very curious as to how the second season will go.

Is 'Elle' really gone, or is Hobbs feeding her?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Prog Snob on July 23, 2016, 11:30:06 PM
Winona is outstanding for sure.

Indeed. She has always been a favorite of mine. She has never received the credit for how versatile of an actress she is.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Accelerando on July 24, 2016, 12:00:07 AM
Surprised there's not a thread for this because it's getting hyped EVERYWHERE.

I watched the first two episodes last night and determined, yup, it's just as good as everyone's saying. The Goonies comparisons are evident, but I'm also getting strong John Carpenter vibes. Also, splashes on Twin Peaks.

What do you think?

Just fired this up tonight, and I'm in total agreement with the Twin Peaks comparison.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: masterthes on July 24, 2016, 07:30:18 AM
It was so good!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 24, 2016, 09:55:24 AM
This show is very cool. Making my way through it now.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on July 25, 2016, 06:26:12 PM
OK just finished, and oh my lord what an ending. Not gonna lie, I was misty eyed for the last ten minutes man....
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 25, 2016, 06:36:09 PM
OK just finished, and oh my lord what an ending. Not gonna lie, I was misty eyed for the last ten minutes man....

Totally set up a second season, while at the same time completely closing out the first one. Very well done.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on July 25, 2016, 06:43:18 PM
Honest to goodness I hope this is it. They wrapped everything up perfectly but left a bit just to keep the world open and the mystery alive, to show that "it" was still there.

Unless it's written and directed by the same people, I wouldn't want another season. If so, and they have a great story such as this one, then absolutely. I just don't see that happening with how perfectly woven and straight to the point this series was. There wasn't a single second of filler or nonsense. Of course with something this great the want is for more but...there's no way it'd touch this kind of beauty. ESPECIALLY if the director(s, in this case) are/is different as well as the writers, I cannot stress that part enough.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 25, 2016, 06:44:39 PM
Tio....it 'felt' like there was intent for another season to me.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on July 25, 2016, 06:51:22 PM
Hm. I've heard that a lot, I just didn't get that from the ending. I'd love it if everyone else was right though and they have a purposeful, strict story lined up and written out already as this one so clearly was. I'd hate for the great name that they've built so far to be tarnished by anything else but a specific vision.

SPOILZ TALKZ:






Of course the whole idea of Hobbs helping out Elle is still there (or her being alive at all) and that was there for a reason, but again, I felt like that was more of a nod to an open mystery than a "this will be our reason for S2". I also don't think that'd work out so hot considering it'd essentially be a heavy retread of parts of S1 in "now we have to go save her from the Upside Down", which would feel very cheap and not nearly as creative. If it was a quick beginning to S2 and then something else came of it, then sure...but I'd love to see what else there is to explore in that world and what would be worth having another season for.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: orcus116 on July 25, 2016, 07:45:40 PM
I'm with Tio. Everything wrapped up so well and all of the arcs are pretty much closed so another season of the same characters would be overdoing it at the risk of tainting the first season. This would be a great anthology show though.

Tio....it 'felt' like there was intent for another season to me.

I never got that. The kids were great but a sequel with them would seem like "let's see what wacky mishaps happen to the kids this time!" when part of the charm is seeing how these ordinary people react to something out of the ordinary for the first time. If it's a "here we go again" then meh.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on July 25, 2016, 10:11:13 PM
They might be able to recapture some magic, but there's no way they can top the first season.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 26, 2016, 07:40:56 AM
They might be able to recapture some magic, but there's no way they can top the first season.

Like American Horror Story. First Season was absolute Gold.....never to have another season come close to being that awesome again.

SPOILZ:
I'm certainly not a Hollywood Movie writer but it seemed to me that the whole thing with Will flashing back to the other side, coughing up a slimy bug and Hopper seemingly leaving Elle some food.....there was groundwork laid for more to come if they decide to. Will it be as good as the first season?  Who knows....it just felt like they left the option open to me.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 27, 2016, 10:11:10 PM
Nice little read with the writers.


http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/stranger-things-creators-explain-it-all-about-season-1
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Chino on July 29, 2016, 05:32:15 PM
Just finished episode three.... I'm sorry, but this show is beyond boring so far.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on July 29, 2016, 06:56:51 PM
Just finished episode three.... I'm sorry, but this show is beyond boring so far.

How dare you not have the same artistic taste as me. Satanist.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on July 29, 2016, 11:49:33 PM
*raises pitchfork and yells profanities*










*something about Avatar*






 :P :heart
Seriously though, there's a few people at work who I've recommended the show to and they were like "dude why the fuck did you tell me to watch that?"  :lol I guess it's more niche than I thought. I suppose you do have to have a certain amount of love for 80's related material given that the entire show is basically a love letter to that era in all facets of film. I dunno, I was hooked from episode 1 but I guess I can see how it's a slow build up. But then again I watched it expecting nothing at all so I definitely can't relate to going into it with all the hype that is (seemingly) surrounding it now.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 30, 2016, 08:30:15 AM
Just finished episode three.... I'm sorry, but this show is beyond boring so far.

I don't know if being a child of the 80's made it that much more awesome for me...but I was highly entertained the entire time. The only episode I thought lacked was the first one.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 30, 2016, 01:55:38 PM
Just finished ep 4 and even though I was caught up in the hype from everyone talking about this damn show I was still surprise how hooked I was after just two episodes. The feel and mood the actors and the script conveys works so brilliantly. Some of the best child actors i've seen especially the girl that plays Eleven.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jonny108 on July 30, 2016, 07:23:52 PM
Ended up watching 7 episodes in row before I realised I had to go work in the morning.  Really enjoyed this.  Looking forward to Season 2. 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 30, 2016, 08:47:43 PM
Just finished episode three.... I'm sorry, but this show is beyond boring so far.

It depends on your tastes. If you don't like conspiracy then might not like it.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 30, 2016, 09:04:07 PM
Some of the best child actors i've seen especially the girl that plays Eleven.

She was also in the BBC show 'Intruders' which was a cool show and she was great! She actually had to 'act' like a Serial Killing man who could live forever by inhabiting the bodies of 'hosts'....she was a host. It took me a few episodes to recall where I recognized her from.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Prog Snob on July 31, 2016, 11:04:15 AM
Just finished episode three.... I'm sorry, but this show is beyond boring so far.

You said the same thing about Game of Thrones...  Yet...here you are six seasons later.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 31, 2016, 01:23:23 PM
The creators have stated in multiple interviews online that they have ideas for a second season and even a third. All they are waiting on is the green light from Netflix.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on July 31, 2016, 01:48:16 PM
Yep. Good to hear. I hope they live up to the first.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 31, 2016, 07:30:14 PM
Yep. Good to hear. I hope they live up to the first.

The interviews make it sound like they had a 'grand' scheme for a story...that they felt like 8 episodes was perfect fit for the first portion of the story. They did say however that if Netflix had asked for 13 Episodes they'd have delivered 13. Anyway...like you said, if they do get another season or even three....hopefully it can stand up to the first one.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 31, 2016, 07:39:35 PM
another neat little article..


https://www.yahoo.com/style/dungeons-dragons-may-hide-huge-175135630.html
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MetalJunkie on August 01, 2016, 01:19:19 AM
I feel like water plays a big part.

[SPOILARZ]


The inter-dimensional rip originated in a giant sensory deprivation tank, the monster first shows up in the rain, Barb drops her blood/gets taken at the pool, then The Upside Down flickers into existence when Will goes to wash his hands. The camera actually focuses on the water in the sink, leading me to believe it's important.

Also, my thoughts after finishing the series. Again, spoilers.

There's no doubt in my mind that El is alive, but that raises some questions for me. If Hopper is the only one who knows this, he must be in connection with someone at the Hawkins Lab - surely as a result of the deal he made (dammit, Lando). Given where he left the food, I feel like El is alive in another dimension. Maybe not The Upside Down, but another dimension at least.

My mind is reeling about Will right now. He coughed up an over-sized Khan worm, saw a flicker of The Upside Down, then sat down to Christmas dinner like nothing happened. I feel like there's a "parasite controlling the host" kind of thing going on, especially since no one else noticed the inter-dimensional flicker.

[END SPOILARZ]

Hopper might be my favorite TV character ever. Also, he sounds like Harrison Ford.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 01, 2016, 07:26:36 AM
I feel like water plays a big part.

[SPOILARZ]


The inter-dimensional rip originated in a giant sensory deprivation tank, the monster first shows up in the rain, Barb drops her blood/gets taken at the pool, then The Upside Down flickers into existence when Will goes to wash his hands. The camera actually focuses on the water in the sink, leading me to believe it's important.

Also, my thoughts after finishing the series. Again, spoilers.

There's no doubt in my mind that El is alive, but that raises some questions for me. If Hopper is the only one who knows this, he must be in connection with someone at the Hawkins Lab - surely as a result of the deal he made (dammit, Lando). Given where he left the food, I feel like El is alive in another dimension. Maybe not The Upside Down, but another dimension at least.

My mind is reeling about Will right now. He coughed up an over-sized Khan worm, saw a flicker of The Upside Down, then sat down to Christmas dinner like nothing happened. I feel like there's a "parasite controlling the host" kind of thing going on, especially since no one else noticed the inter-dimensional flicker.

[END SPOILARZ]

Hopper might be my favorite TV character ever. Also, he sounds like Harrison Ford.

Good point about Will....that was a bit odd. I mean, he may not be saying anything due to him being scared of having it all happen again, but he did act odd. The water angle is interesting also because you're dead on there. And, I said the same thing about Hopper to my brother, he's a very cool character. Not sure what's going on with Elle but it's no coincidence that Hopper left Eggo's out there....she's still alive but as you mentioned "where"?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 01, 2016, 03:29:01 PM
Hopper might be my favorite TV character ever. Also, he sounds like Harrison Ford.
Yea he's great, i'm actually thinking along the lines of if they ever do a Jack Nicholson biopic, he seems like the perfect pick.  :lol
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on August 02, 2016, 06:59:19 AM
Mrs P and I binge-watched the whole season last weekend and loved it! The 80's nostalgia gave the terrific acting a nice twist. We weren't as enamored with Ryder's performance as the rest of you (and the articles linked here) but generally are on the same page with the rest of the cast.We thought the plot and pacing were superb.

Put us in with the group that think a sequel isn't a good idea. We'd watch it if they made one, but with extremely low expectations.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: soupytwist on August 05, 2016, 01:34:14 AM
I enjoyed the first 4 episodes much than the latter 4.   I think this was because by the end of episode 4 the mystery is pretty much solved then you have 3 episodes of the various character groups being idiots before finally coming together for the finale - which was a decent enough finale, if a tad predictable.

Has there ever been a worst walking/talking exposition character than the kids science teacher?

Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 07, 2016, 05:57:41 PM
I just binged the whole show and wow.

Its like Firestarter meets E.T. meets Goonies meets Half-life and it all comes together so beautifully. I loved it.

I can't believe Nancy went with steve in the end, WTF?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: orcus116 on August 07, 2016, 08:01:12 PM
Why not? Steve was setup for the jerk jock type trope but he ended up being just a good regular guy so it fits that she ended up with him. He never did anything wrong to deserve being thrown to the curb and ended up sticking up for her in the end.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 07, 2016, 08:52:32 PM
Why not? Steve was setup for the jerk jock type trope but he ended up being just a good regular guy so it fits that she ended up with him. He never did anything wrong to deserve being thrown to the curb and ended up sticking up for her in the end.

Yeah, I was surprised at first but he did feel bad about the way she was treated by his friends to the tune of cleaning the sign, and then he went to apologize to Will's brother without knowing she was there....and ended up being the only reason she lived. Had he not came back in that 'monster' would have killed them for sure.

it was a good thing they ended up together.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: splent on August 08, 2016, 11:41:10 PM
Such a fucking amazing show. It's like Explorers meets Alien meets ET meets Firestarter meets Goonies meets Flight of the Navigator meets Friday the 13th. Like every 80s movie we grew up with is all in one place. And they NAILED it. Season 2 needs to come out yesterday.

The MUSIC of this show. SO GOOD. I love those analog synths. Whoever created it must binge on Tangerine Dream and Jean-Michel Jarre.

Dustin is my favorite character. I was one of those kids. I was probably most like Will, since I was a little quirky and socially awkward, but a good natured kid, and was often bullied. I HATED those two bullies... I wish I had an Eleven there to psychokinetically break their arm or piss their pants.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 09, 2016, 08:06:08 AM
Such a fucking amazing show. It's like Explorers meets Alien meets ET meets Firestarter meets Goonies meets Flight of the Navigator meets Friday the 13th. Like every 80s movie we grew up with is all in one place. And they NAILED it. Season 2 needs to come out yesterday.

The MUSIC of this show. SO GOOD. I love those analog synths. Whoever created it must binge on Tangerine Dream and Jean-Michel Jarre.

Dustin is my favorite character. I was one of those kids. I was probably most like Will, since I was a little quirky and socially awkward, but a good natured kid, and was often bullied. I HATED those two bullies... I wish I had an Eleven there to psychokinetically break their arm or piss their pants.

yeah....the bullies brought back some memories....and not in a good way. Elementary school kids are just dicks...there's no getting around it. My wife still gets teary eyed to this day when in conversation I mention again that I spent the majority of my elementary school days hiding inside tires....the ones that were buried half in and out of the ground (anyone else have those?) ....and making my way into the creek that ran along side the school to get away from the other kids. I was an easy target...awkward....short...like REAL short....and from a real low income family. Anyway....Elle would have been nice to have around  :tup
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Zydar on August 09, 2016, 08:15:59 AM
I've been meaning to check this show out, I'll do it tonight then.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 09, 2016, 10:58:37 AM
I've been meaning to check this show out, I'll do it tonight then.

If your a fan of Goonies, ET, Stand by Me, Firestarter, Poltergeist....ANY of those classic 80's movies then you should dig this show a lot.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: abydos on August 17, 2016, 01:19:19 PM
I heard about this few days ago but was skeptical because I generally don't like/hate most media focused around children as main characters, but boredom won last night and I binged 7 episodes. Damn, that show is fucking good.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on August 17, 2016, 02:28:47 PM
It was great! I was totally digging the 80's vibe, and 8 episodes was the perfect length.

I know there's a lot of junk on Netflix, but one of the good things about it is that it gives shows like this a chance. This may not have seen the light of day on a regular TV broadcast network.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on August 18, 2016, 12:27:30 AM
Very good point, this would've been buried and ruined on network television. Either that or it would've been twice as long with ten times the filler and a romantic element that was twice as large.

Throw in a few other hijinks that would've royally fucked it up.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 18, 2016, 07:56:03 AM
Pretty interesting and plausible 'fan' theory about Eleven and the 'Monster'..


http://uproxx.com/tv/is-eleven-the-monster-stranger-things-theory-spoilers/
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on August 18, 2016, 08:23:10 AM
Pretty interesting and plausible 'fan' theory about Eleven and the 'Monster'..


http://uproxx.com/tv/is-eleven-the-monster-stranger-things-theory-spoilers/

Cool. Seems pretty plausible, however, why would the Monster have captured Will in the first place? If the Monster is the physical manifestation of Eleven's inner turmoil, why would she/it go after Will, who she wouldn't even know, and wouldn't have had any issue with?  ???

(BTW - the title generator linked to on that site is pretty cool: http://makeitstranger.com/hello-dtf)  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 20, 2016, 04:50:32 AM
Goddamn I loved this series. It was incredible. Eleven is just baddass and a really good actress.

It had a perfect feel to it all the way through. This even rivals Orange is the New Black (even though they are nothing alike) as my favourite Netflix series.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: KevShmev on August 20, 2016, 07:39:00 AM
Just finished this last night. Was surprised how much I liked it, considering I normally don't dig that kind of scifi/supernatural thing. However, the writing was excellent, as was the acting.

Favorite characters were Dustin (hilarious kid), Hopper and El.

The choice of music throughout couldn't have been more perfect.

Well done. :tup :tup
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bout to crash on August 20, 2016, 07:36:14 PM
I have watched the first two episodes only so not reading most of the thread... I'm digging it so far but I'm a bit tired of the whole eighties thing.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: KevShmev on August 20, 2016, 10:55:46 PM
Keep watching. You ain't seen nothing yet.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bout to crash on August 23, 2016, 10:03:48 AM
Yeah, it gets much better. I've got one left but won't be able to watch til tomorrow or Thurs.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 31, 2016, 09:35:52 AM
Just saw on a video on their facebook, Season 2 coming 2017. Interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: mike099 on August 31, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
Such a fucking amazing show. It's like Explorers meets Alien meets ET meets Firestarter meets Goonies meets Flight of the Navigator meets Friday the 13th. Like every 80s movie we grew up with is all in one place. And they NAILED it. Season 2 needs to come out yesterday.

The MUSIC of this show. SO GOOD. I love those analog synths. Whoever created it must binge on Tangerine Dream and Jean-Michel Jarre.

Dustin is my favorite character. I was one of those kids. I was probably most like Will, since I was a little quirky and socially awkward, but a good natured kid, and was often bullied. I HATED those two bullies... I wish I had an Eleven there to psychokinetically break their arm or piss their pants.

yeah....the bullies brought back some memories....and not in a good way. Elementary school kids are just dicks...there's no getting around it. My wife still gets teary eyed to this day when in conversation I mention again that I spent the majority of my elementary school days hiding inside tires....the ones that were buried half in and out of the ground (anyone else have those?) ....and making my way into the creek that ran along side the school to get away from the other kids. I was an easy target...awkward....short...like REAL short....and from a real low income family. Anyway....Elle would have been nice to have around  :tup

I hear you about the bullies in grade school.  I was fat and shy, so I was an easy target.  Off topic a bit, but if you get a chance listen to a song from Beardfish on the cd Comfort Zone called 'Can you see me now'.  I really hated to hear that Beardfish broke up.  They were a bit 'out there', but had some great songs.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 01, 2016, 03:20:19 PM
This was pretty neat. Looks like these kiddos are pretty close and have fun

https://www.google.com/amp/consequenceofsound.net/2016/09/millie-bobby-brown-a-k-a-eleven-perfectly-raps-nicki-minajs-monster/amp/
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Cyclopssss on September 02, 2016, 02:35:07 AM
Only saw the first two episodes and I'm already hooked. Very well done tribute.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on September 02, 2016, 09:31:52 AM
Turns out Millie Bobby Brown is British?

I had no idea. Mind blown.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: abydos on September 02, 2016, 11:13:02 AM
Yeah I just saw that too. Kind of wished they kept it, she would be even more badass with it.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: BlackInk on September 28, 2016, 03:08:00 PM
Finished this last week, and yeah it was great. I wasn't really sold on it after the first episode, but after the second and going into the third I was stuck. The mom was really annoying though. Usually when a character is right and no one believes them you think everyone else is annoying, but this time she seemed to be doing everything in her power to make people think she was crazy.

I also really liked that Nancy got together with Steve and not Jonathan at the end, that was an unexpected surprise. I always liked Steve, and hoped throughout that they wouldn't just turn him into a complete ass just to give way for Jonathan. Steve never actually felt like an asshole, so I'm glad they followed through with that character development.

Monster was a bit wonky, but for the most part it worked, and all the kids were fantastic. Looking forward to season 2.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on September 28, 2016, 06:13:16 PM
This was pretty neat. Looks like these kiddos are pretty close and have fun

https://www.google.com/amp/consequenceofsound.net/2016/09/millie-bobby-brown-a-k-a-eleven-perfectly-raps-nicki-minajs-monster/amp/

Jimmy- Can you read?

Kid- Can you host?

F'in ouch man.... burned by an eleven year old....



Btw, totally forgot to post this here, saw this kid at SF Comic Con, just a brilliant cosplay...

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14225630_999432833488157_2534665232999771943_n.jpg?oh=c63bc0d9356083851c3fd0a4b91963a0&oe=5880041C)
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on February 06, 2017, 09:54:16 AM
Okay, so I didn't know they were doing a second season until the teaser during the Super Bowl. I'm firmly in the camp that this should have been a one off series...but, yeah, I'll probably watch it anyway.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 06, 2017, 10:43:08 AM
Okay, so I didn't know they were doing a second season until the teaser during the Super Bowl. I'm firmly in the camp that this should have been a one off series...but, yeah, I'll probably watch it anyway.

The brothers that wrote it originally had wanted to do a movie but ended up with a lot of content so they've always had an idea for a couple seasons....I can't remember specifically how many, I want to say (4) but I can't remember.....I think it's the whole 'over 40' thing where after about six minutes I forget stuff. But I do remember that they and Netflix always knew and planned for additional seasons.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on February 06, 2017, 10:20:27 PM
Super excited for this. Definitely wanted only one season originally but if they have actual story and not "on the fly" BS they wrote when it blew up in popularity, I'm all for it. The world is awesome, there's definitely at least a few storylines that can be followed, and while I hope they don't just milk this, the characters are so lovable that I can't help but want to see more of them together. Can't wait to see what they come up with and I hope it is at least as good as S1.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 19, 2017, 06:28:41 PM
With season 2 upon us in just about a week, grabbed the special edition boxset they released exclusive to Target.

Neat packaging, made it look like a VHS tape

Not my pics, found it on reddit.

https://imgur.com/a/ZkAuQ (https://imgur.com/a/ZkAuQ)
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 19, 2017, 06:45:58 PM
With season 2 upon us in just about a week, grabbed the special edition boxset they released exclusive to Target.

Neat packaging, made it look like a VHS tape

Not my pics, found it on reddit.

https://imgur.com/a/ZkAuQ (https://imgur.com/a/ZkAuQ)

That's is some of the coolest packaging I have ever seen. wow
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 27, 2017, 02:08:05 PM
Second season is out! Two episodes in and it's great.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Second season is out! Two episodes in and it's great.

Great to hear. I have to wait until tomorrow night. Have a wedding tonight to attend then up early a.m. for a chilly 13k trail run....canít start tonight as I know Iíd stay up too late
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 27, 2017, 07:04:30 PM
Just started, and the opening scene of Dragon's Lair already has me neck deep in nostalgia...





Edit- onto ep4 and damn I love this show so much...
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Kattelox on October 28, 2017, 11:41:56 AM
I'm at the start of episode 7 at the moment. This season has been fantastic. They set the bar high with season 1, this season might even be better. IMO this is the best Netflix original by a landslide because it's interesting, suspenseful, and still very fun.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 28, 2017, 07:37:17 PM
And it's so well executed. The sets and attention to the 80's noir details are exceptional, I've been paying close attention to the cars and they have all the period cars just right. The story of course is wonderful, just the right mix of suspense, horror, and jocularity. But above all it's the acting, the kids are just outstanding actors across the board. Eleven's scene in ep4 (the one where she first comes across her mom's existence ) is shockingly powerful and emotional.

Love this show so much.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 28, 2017, 11:22:50 PM
Finished it. Fantastic! I won't compare or rank which season I prefer just that I truly loved this season just as much as the first one. This show is so much fun to watch and I think apart from relying on the 80s nostalgia setting and the great acting, the best part of the show IMO is the chemistry the cast share with each other. The pairing up of one kid with an adult is done so well, all the kids act great but the adults are excellent too and it's how they gel together makes the show.

Only minor thing was that I thought they sorta wasted or didn't use a potential storyline which I thought would've been great. Though I guess they can always tie it in next season.

I just read that they are renewed for two more seasons and that's it. I think that works.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on October 29, 2017, 07:47:21 AM
Two episodes in so far, and loving it. Nice to see Sean Astin making an appearance too.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Accelerando on October 29, 2017, 01:03:52 PM
4 episodes in! Im loving this just as much, if not more, than the first season.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 29, 2017, 01:16:01 PM
Two episodes in so far, and loving it. Nice to see Sean Astin making an appearance too.

He was at SF Comic Con and I went to his Q&A, he was so beyond complimentary of the kids, saying they were more professional than most adult actors. He's such a hell of a nice guy.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on October 29, 2017, 01:38:58 PM
Two episodes in so far, and loving it. Nice to see Sean Astin making an appearance too.

He was at SF Comic Con and I went to his Q&A, he was so beyond complimentary of the kids, saying they were more professional than most adult actors. He's such a hell of a nice guy.

Very cool. He seems like a really genuine guy. Was it a Q&A specifically for the show, or did people get the chance to ask more general questions? Itíd be great to hear him speak about his time in LOTR.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Kattelox on October 29, 2017, 03:18:55 PM
It's just as good if not better than the first season. I won't spoil anything until more people get a chance to finish the season, but I do have some quick thoughts to share.

Props to all the actors, every character was a thrill to watch and they gave amazing performances. Special shoutout to Billy, Max's stepbrother - he was the red Power Ranger in the Power Ranger film earlier this year and he stole every scene he was in. What an asshole! The embodiment of every 80s meathead stereotype - listens to metal, what-the-fuck hairdo, smokes while bench pressing, 40 second kegstands, I loved to hate to love him. Also a shoutout to Winona Ryder and Sean Astin. I thought they did an amazing job.

I was really happy to see what happened with Steve, Jonathon, and Nancy throughout the season. And all of the kids got plenty of screen time! Max was a cool character, and it was nice to see the kids dealing with every day kid stuff in school. The episode where they got in costume for school had me laughing a lot. Dustin was hilarious this season with that 'check out these pearls' line.

I'm really happy to hear it's renewed for two more seasons. One of the best shows out there!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on October 29, 2017, 03:26:08 PM
This was an amazing season. Every actor was great, but Will was the star. The Red Ranger was, in fact, really incredible and almost made me want to see the Power Rangers movie for him alone. Loved every character's arc, especially Steve.


I've heard complaints about episode 7. I thought it was a good episode, but felt like a different show. Honestly, the entire episode could have been cut and it wouldn't have mattered.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Accelerando on October 29, 2017, 04:44:01 PM
The Red Ranger was, in fact, really incredible and almost made me want to see the Power Rangers movie for him alone. Loved every character's arc, especially Steve.

You just answered a question I had. I was trying to figure out where I saw him.

Also, the Andrew Stanton directed episode was fantastic!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Kattelox on October 29, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
I thought episode 7 was the weakest of them all but only because it was a story that featured characters both introduced and forgotten in the same episode. But, to the extent of those restraints, those characters were kind of fun. I thought it was good for Eleven to have an episode struggling to find herself, finding outcasts like herself, etc.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on October 29, 2017, 05:27:45 PM
I thought episode 7 was the weakest of them all but only because it was a story that featured characters both introduced and forgotten in the same episode. But, to the extent of those restraints, those characters were kind of fun. I thought it was good for Eleven to have an episode struggling to find herself, finding outcasts like herself, etc.

Yea, it was a good episode. It just wasn't a good part of the season. It felt the season was going, then for episode 7 they just took a huge detour and then came back. It was just odd and overall, unnecessary.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: masterthes on October 29, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
I imagine that will be some sort of set up for next season. Only gripe I had was who they decided to pair Max with. Dustin is a far better character than Lucas
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: WDADU on October 29, 2017, 08:45:23 PM
Yeah, I'm seven episodes in now, and I was thinking the entire time that it felt like an episode for a different show. I agree that it was a very strange place to put that episode. Episodes four, five and six have such a good run, and build up so much momentum, that it feels like we ran into a wall in Episode Seven. I will finish episodes Eight and Nine tonight, so I am eager to find out what happens after all of...that.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 29, 2017, 09:01:28 PM
Definitely not complaining about ep 7, it was a great episode. I just that storyline was more incorporated into the main storyline rather than feel like a spinoff. But I'm guessing it will be used in some capacity in later seasons.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 29, 2017, 09:44:29 PM
Two episodes in so far, and loving it. Nice to see Sean Astin making an appearance too.

He was at SF Comic Con and I went to his Q&A, he was so beyond complimentary of the kids, saying they were more professional than most adult actors. He's such a hell of a nice guy.

Very cool. He seems like a really genuine guy. Was it a Q&A specifically for the show, or did people get the chance to ask more general questions? Itíd be great to hear him speak about his time in LOTR.

It was general questions asked by the audience, but most of them were Stranger Things centric, and one interesting one about a possible pet project of Astin's (he's trying to get the book Number the Stars into a movie)
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2017, 06:42:26 AM
Finished at three thirty this morning.... simply couldnít stop watching. (7) in a row! Anyway, really good sophomore season. There was a chance theyíd never recapture the magic of the first season but they didnít disappoint.

As has been mentioned, the reason for that is the chemistry these kids have with one another. They donít have to convince you theyíre close friends because they actually are, and they are talented actors to boot.

One of my favorite ĎCall backsí of the season was in ĎThe Spyí when the soldiers were led into the trap. That whole sequence was taken near directly from ALIENS when the colonial Marines first encounter the aliens in the sub station of the atmospheric processors. From some of the dialogue like Ďstay frostyí, to the motion detector right down ĎCarter Burkeí himself watching it all unfold on CCTV like
He did in ALIENS....it was really well done.

As far as episode 7 itís undoubtedy intentional ....:not random and itís most likely there to introduce her Ďsisterí.....form a small bond between them so that 008 can return to the story at a later date. If anything, to help Janes Mom see different visions other than the painful ones sheís been reliving.

Canít wait for the next season
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 30, 2017, 10:49:29 AM
I think it was also to give 11/Jane some real depth to her character. We know where her morality and her loyalties lie now, and when building upon her in the future, they can go from those starting points.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Art on October 30, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Binge-watched the whole season with my wife, and it was amazing. For me, as good as the first season.  :tup
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: WDADU on October 30, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
SPOILERS....





Well, for what it's worth, episodes Eight and Nine totally made up for it. I have no doubt that Eleven's sister and her gang will come back in later seasons, and now that we're acquainted with them, they will be better received and the flow will be much more coherent. But, yeah, the last two episodes were aces and tricked us into believing one thing while doing another (I totally thought Bob would be a spy. Turns out he was a really great dude, and I hated it when he got eaten by the demodogs---even if that lingering shot gave his death away) The last ten minutes of Episode Nine really got me in the feels, which is probably the show's best quailty. Definitely looknig forward to Season Three.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on October 30, 2017, 02:12:59 PM
SPOILERS....





Well, for what it's worth, episodes Eight and Nine totally made up for it. I have no doubt that Eleven's sister and her gang will come back in later seasons, and now that we're acquainted with them, they will be better received and the flow will be much more coherent. But, yeah, the last two episodes were aces and tricked us into believing one thing while doing another (I totally thought Bob would be a spy. Turns out he was a really great dude, and I hated it when he got eaten by the demodogs---even if that lingering shot gave his death away) The last ten minutes of Episode Nine really got me in the feels, which is probably the show's best quailty. Definitely looknig forward to Season Three.


More spoilers...







Yea, I'm thinking they set all that up to guide the way for future seasons. I mean, how many more times can they do a "Will gets held hostage by the Upside Down and everyone has to stop a demogorgon? I think if the Upside Down takes a back seat next season to focus on the 11 thing and the other 10 or more kids would be interesting and new.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: WDADU on October 30, 2017, 02:21:55 PM
AND MORE SPOILERS, STILL...

The Duffer Brothers (creators of the show) said that there's a reason why Hawkins is being tageted. We saw elements of that before, with the pumpkin patches being rotten and such. But I'm assuming there's much more to be learned in Season Three and we'll be seeing more of the Upside Down and digging into its own mythology. Dustin said something in Episode Eight about the shadow-monster being so old that it doesn't even know its own origin. Maybe Hawkins and its location has something to do with that, and I think that's where the Duffer brothers are gonna go with it in the third season.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on October 30, 2017, 02:28:23 PM
I have some questions about the Upside Down, and they're not spoilers if you've at least seen season one.

So.

Whenever they show the upside down, it's basically like a crazy destroyed version of our world. It still has the cars, buildings, streets, etc. from the real world. So how does that work? If someone builds a building in the real world, does it just magically appear in the upside down later? From the upside down's perspective, do the bricks and so forth just fly around and create a house since there are no humans? Am I just overthinking this because I'm a nerd?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on October 30, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
AND MORE SPOILERS, STILL...


Dustin said something in Episode Eight about the shadow-monster being so old that it doesn't even know its own origin.

God, I laughed so hard at that sequence. The total ridiculousness of adults standing around seriously listening to a prepubescent kid site Dungeons and Dragons lore from the Monster Manual about Mind Flayers was just so absurd. Plus, Dustin said something in the vein of, "Hey, it's all there in the manual."  :lol

I have to wonder if that is a dig at the Park City, Utah school board who banned D&D from a math class in the late 1970's (the teacher was using the dice rolls to teach the kids probability curves). There was a semi famous quote from a parent who said they didn't want there kids to have access to a "manual for casting satanic spells" or some such.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on October 30, 2017, 02:42:06 PM
I have some questions about the Upside Down, and they're not spoilers if you've at least seen season one.

So.

Whenever they show the upside down, it's basically like a crazy destroyed version of our world. It still has the cars, buildings, streets, etc. from the real world. So how does that work? If someone builds a building in the real world, does it just magically appear in the upside down later? From the upside down's perspective, do the bricks and so forth just fly around and create a house since there are no humans? Am I just overthinking this because I'm a nerd?

Yes. To everything. You have completely figured out the mechanics. :blob:
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 30, 2017, 02:47:34 PM
The more I start to think of this season the more I'm loving it. I think I'll rewatch the first season and head again into season two. It definitely gets the feels going, this show does.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on October 30, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
I enjoyed season two but not as much as the first. Don't get me wrong, the writing and acting were terrific but the 80's culture references were much more fun when they were fresh.

I will say, the writers, directors and show runners are masters of the episode cliff hanger. God damn, it was difficult not to watch just one more. Just one more.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 30, 2017, 03:09:20 PM
I think for many, like me, that's what hooked you in the first season. When it came out, there was not much advertising for it. Then the weekend it came out, I thought I'd catch one episode of it to see what the show was about and then it was too late, I'd already watched 5 in a row. I'm sure I remember MP having the same reaction on twitter, his whole family sat down to catch an episode or two and they all marathoned through the entire series at one go.

Netflix have pretty much mastered the art in making shows that really suck you in.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2017, 06:30:24 PM
Mid Thread Opinion Poll


Do I allow my 10 and 11 year old sons to watch Stranger Things? They've never seen it, heard about it...and want to watch it. They've watched some PG-13 movies like Maze Runner, Kong....Tarzan.....things along those lines. They've heard cuss words before so it's not so much the random SOB's and Sh%t and stuff.....it's more the emotional kid gone missing...moms a mess...etc etc. I'm concerned about.

What do the parents of DTF think?    I'm leaning 'yes' and my wife has left it up to me being that she hasn't seen either season.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 30, 2017, 07:06:36 PM
I think for many, like me, that's what hooked you in the first season. When it came out, there was not much advertising for it. Then the weekend it came out, I thought I'd catch one episode of it to see what the show was about and then it was too late, I'd already watched 5 in a row. I'm sure I remember MP having the same reaction on twitter, his whole family sat down to catch an episode or two and they all marathoned through the entire series at one go.

Netflix have pretty much mastered the art in making shows that really suck you in.

Thats what happened to me. I just saw it on Netflix and decided to watch it. Before I knew it I was 5-6 episodes in. Then later on, found out it had just premiered that very same day, lucky me.

Still need to watch Season 2. Probably will soonish, but might watch Season 1 again as a refresher
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 30, 2017, 07:41:10 PM
Mid Thread Opinion Poll


Do I allow my 10 and 11 year old sons to watch Stranger Things? They've never seen it, heard about it...and want to watch it. They've watched some PG-13 movies like Maze Runner, Kong....Tarzan.....things along those lines. They've heard cuss words before so it's not so much the random SOB's and Sh%t and stuff.....it's more the emotional kid gone missing...moms a mess...etc etc. I'm concerned about.

What do the parents of DTF think?    I'm leaning 'yes' and my wife has left it up to me being that she hasn't seen either season.

It sorta depends on what kind of understanding you think your kids have. The swearing and implied sexuality is pretty mild comparatively. The only thing I'd be worried if it was me is the occasional violence, I mean if you ask me it looks a bit too intense at times, even more than most PG-13 movies I feel. If you think your kids can handle that I think they should be ok. There really isn't much violence throughout but those couple of times there is, it can be a bit jarring IMO. My kid is just 3 so there's still some time for me to think about those things  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2017, 07:50:15 PM
Mid Thread Opinion Poll


Do I allow my 10 and 11 year old sons to watch Stranger Things? They've never seen it, heard about it...and want to watch it. They've watched some PG-13 movies like Maze Runner, Kong....Tarzan.....things along those lines. They've heard cuss words before so it's not so much the random SOB's and Sh%t and stuff.....it's more the emotional kid gone missing...moms a mess...etc etc. I'm concerned about.

What do the parents of DTF think?    I'm leaning 'yes' and my wife has left it up to me being that she hasn't seen either season.

It sorta depends on what kind of understanding you think your kids have. The swearing and implied sexuality is pretty mild comparatively. The only thing I'd be worried if it was me is the occasional violence, I mean if you ask me it looks a bit too intense at times, even more than most PG-13 movies I feel. If you think your kids can handle that I think they should be ok. There really isn't much violence throughout but those couple of times there is, it can be a bit jarring IMO. My kid is just 3 so there's still some time for me to think about those things  :biggrin:

This is my issue. I think they could handle 90% of the show because 90% of the show is more or less 'fun' with some action and what not. But the really intense scenes are intense. There are some legit murder scenes that happen and although they aren't overly gory by any means they are still pretty blunt and direct.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Kattelox on October 30, 2017, 08:59:46 PM
I think it just depends on how mature you think your kids are. When I was 5 my parents let me play Mortal Kombat and Quake (and my father was in the room during Quake so he knew what I was playing) because they knew I understood it was just a game. If they're smart enough to realize it's just a TV show they'll be fine. Yeah there's some violence and a couple bloody murder scenes, and a fair bit of swearing, but if they're mature enough they'll handle it just fine.

However there are a couple really visually disturbing scenes, even as an adult. Mainly with Will - one when they light the vines on fire and he's seizing, and the other where the mind flayer/shadow monster is literally entering his body.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on October 30, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
Anyone watch the after show series "Beyond Strangers Things"? 7 Episodes of around 20 min each hosted by Jim Rash, the Dean from Community. I'll check it out later.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 30, 2017, 10:18:55 PM
Just finished. I'm truly in love with this show. The emotions it manages to easily elicit from me is amazing. Granted I'm a softy to begin with, but that rollercoaster of ep9 had me on the edge for a good half hour of it. And then that perfectly crafted closing scene with the school dance was just too much.

Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on October 31, 2017, 06:45:38 AM
Gary,

You won't know until you try. Some kids handle the violence differently than others. I think Stranger Things is a pretty good way to find out since it's not shockingly gory. My advise is that you and your wife watch the first season with them since it's not as unrelentingly tense and keep a sly eye on things. Your kids will watch you and your wife carefully for your reactions so playing it cool is important, but if one of the kids gets a too freaked, just quietly usher them out and have a calm conversation with them. You'll know what to do. I wouldn't turn the show off if only one of the boys is troubled, but if both are then maybe it would be best to turn it off.


















































and yell at them for being pussies!  :)
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Kattelox on October 31, 2017, 07:12:10 AM
 :lol :lol :lol

I need to watch Beyond Stranger Things, thanks for the heads up faizoff.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 31, 2017, 09:09:18 AM
Gregg....that's a good approach. My wife was wanting to watch it as well so that'd be the scenario.



And, my boys already hear it enough from me how they'd never have survived in PawPaw's (my Dad) house.....that they don't know how easy they have it when it comes to being hurt/scared, whatever. there wasn't a lot of sympathy from him growing up. He was the typical 'get over it, you're fine' Dad.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on October 31, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
I hope you know that last line was a joke. Didn't intend to bring up bad stuff.

Now, buckup, buttercup!  :lol
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 31, 2017, 09:46:43 AM
I hope you know that last line was a joke. Didn't intend to bring up bad stuff.

Now, buckup, buttercup!  :lol

Oh I know....and I don't mean to make it sound like my dad was a dick. He was/is great. He was just 'old school'.   My younger brother once stepped on a nail that went clear through his foot...in between the webbing of his toes where there's really just skin and a bit of muscle. My dad took one look at the wound....at the nail and said 'you're fine, the nail isn't rusty and your barely bleeding'. No trip to the Dr, no emotional counseling. Just 'you'll be fine, shake it off'   I love the fact I was raised like that. Unless you severed an artery and were bleeding out any injury was always  'your'e fine'      :lol
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on October 31, 2017, 10:36:05 AM
Fucking ouch man...I cringed just reading that..
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on October 31, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
Maybe I'm not in the right mood or state of mind but I am not nearly as attached or loving this season as the first. Four episodes in and the vast majority of the show so far has been campy school happenings, parties, and so many random, bad jokes you'd think that it'd turn into a sit-com. I'm going to stick with it but my original fear of them milking this just to milk it and make that dough seems to be coming at least partially true; especially since I read they're already gearing up for a Season 3.

I don't know how to feel about it at this point. The original had a whole hell of a lot of charm and a very specific story to tell with absolutely no filler. I feel like in just the four episodes I've watched when there's only 9 to begin with, there's been filler in almost half of every episode. There's also some character archetypes that just do not make sense to introduce unless they're going somewhere (the "psycho" not-brother of Max; I want Sean Astin to burn in Mordor; the expansion of Steve and Nancy's relationship is as interesting and deep as a puddle). Basically I'm just sad that I don't have the same feelings for the show as I did almost immediately with Season 1 despite S1 also starting off a little slow, it quickly developed into a masterpiece. Rightfully so, since there were only 8 episodes. I really think they're taking their time (and not in a good way, mind you, but with the aforementioned filler) because they know now that it's going to be a hit and that they can milk it dry.

I'll come back way later with an updated view after finishing it but I need a break from the cheese-factor this season has introduced in spades. I kind of knew it wasn't going to be the same when they had the garage-punk-band and 8 in that first scene. Ugh...
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jingle.boy on November 02, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
Quick post now, more later.  jingle.son and I just finished it up.  Loved it just as much as Season 1.  As was mentioned, the attention to detail was fantastic.... little things like the flashlights with the red plastic caps; the Head&Shoulders bottle in the bathroom... stuff like that all over the place.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 02, 2017, 06:56:16 PM
Quick post now, more later.  jingle.son and I just finished it up.  Loved it just as much as Season 1.  As was mentioned, the attention to detail was fantastic.... little things like the flashlights with the red plastic caps; the Head&Shoulders bottle in the bathroom... stuff like that all over the place.

I mentioned that same detail today. That was OLD SCHOOL !!!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: SystematicThought on November 02, 2017, 10:02:11 PM
Currently watching episode 7. So far, I could really do without this episode. Iím really loving this season, but I think they made the best character of season 1 the least interesting for season 2.

Edit: Maybe the episode wasn't that bad, but coming off of episode 6 and to slow down like that, it kinda sucked. But, the episode pays off because of the end of episode 8
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on November 03, 2017, 07:42:53 AM
Watched the first 3 episodes of Beyond Stranger Things, it's a fun quirky after show. I like the candor of the segments, you learn some neat trivia and some of the behind the scenes stuff, how some of the plot lines were changed to suit the characters, etc.. You can see how well the cast gels together. They really seem to have that chemistry between the kids and the adults which is why they decided to pair some of them that way.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: abydos on November 03, 2017, 07:48:16 AM
Season 2 was quite a bit weaker than S1 but it was still an enjoyable watch for the most part.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2017, 08:34:06 AM
Season 2 was quite a bit weaker than S1 but it was still an enjoyable watch for the most part.

I'd think that it's near impossible to capture the magic of season 1. It was such an awesome surprise and unique feel. I enjoyed Season 2 a lot, but I wouldn't call it 'weaker'....I'd say that it just didn't have that same 'spell' that season 1 had. But that was/is to be expected when you have a show pop on to the scene like Season 1 did. The expectations were sky high for season 2 and I thought they handled it very well.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Accelerando on November 03, 2017, 11:53:53 AM
I agree you can't quite capture that magic from the first season. I have that same thought with The Walking Dead. That first season was just an amazing, unexpected surprise. But having had finished season 2 for a few days now with time to think about it, I think this season was just as good, if not better, than the first season. I feel like the character were fully realized. Especially Will Byers. And what a wonderful kid actor. All of them. 

But my girlfriend and I are in agreement that if Nancy ever gets killed, we won't cry about it  :lol She's the Felicity Smoak (Arrow) of this show
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on November 03, 2017, 05:56:57 PM
Just binged the remaining 6 episodes of S2. Loved the ending - pure 80ís nostalgia.

David Harbour is great. It would be great to see him in more things. I hope this show helps boost his profile.

All the kid actors were super yet again. Excellent casting.

My only criticism is with episode 7 and the whole 008 storyline. I wasnít mad keen on it in general, but I think this may have worked better being interspersed into other episodes. Dedicating a whole episode to it seemed a bit unnecessary.

Oh, and poor Bob!!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2017, 06:36:35 PM
My only criticism is with episode 7 and the whole 008 storyline. I wasnít mad keen on it in general, but I think this may have worked better being interspersed into other episodes. Dedicating a whole episode to it seemed a bit unnecessary.

I can agree with that, and would be my only criticism of the season. I think the story itself was important because I can't imagine that 008 won't be part of the story moving forward....so forming that relationship probably was important......but I agree that a stand alone episode like that felt a bit much. Even then though the only reason the episode didn't seem to work was that it was sandwiched in a good run and flow of episodes....but the episode itself wasn't all that bad. Just felt out of place.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2017, 07:07:19 PM
My only beef with Ep 7 was ruining the continuity between 6 and 8.  If they had flip flopped 6 with 7, that might have been more tolerable.  Like RJ said, it really revealed Eleven's character, powers, and power.  I think all of it was relevant, but breaking the momentum of ep 6 was a bit of a killjoy.

Spoilers...





Mike was a dick to Max... you'd think that character would understand the relevance and impact of boy/girl friendship/camaraderie/relationship.  He was a douche to Max.

Mike's mom was smokin hawt in the final episode.  <insert Dustin's grlrlrlrlrlrl>  Nancy did a total solid for Dustin at the end.  While I agree with Accelerando, that was a great thing to do.  Billy was great... looking forward to how that character evolves.

I have/had a few minor nits in a few episodes, but nothing that detracted from the overall awesomeness of the season.  I'm looking forward to the reveal/discover of One thru Seven, as well as Nine and Ten.

Oh, and poor Bob!!

Too funny... I text RJ when it happened - "Poor Samwise".
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2017, 08:00:07 PM
There were several moments throughout the show that I thought Bob was going to be a 'bad' guy. There were some looks and certain ways the scenes went where I was like "is he a bad guy just spying on this family?"   Especially after he convinced Will to stand up to the Flayer monster thing.....thought for sure he was a 'bad guy' after that.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on November 03, 2017, 08:36:14 PM
There were several moments throughout the show that I thought Bob was going to be a 'bad' guy. There were some looks and certain ways the scenes went where I was like "is he a bad guy just spying on this family?"   Especially after he convinced Will to stand up to the Flayer monster thing.....thought for sure he was a 'bad guy' after that.

I've heard that from a lot of people. I'm really glad he was just a good guy. I'm glad he had his major hero arc and that we rooted for him.

I love Bob.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jammindude on November 03, 2017, 09:56:06 PM
Late to the party, but started watching it last week and got about 5 or 6 episodes into season 1.   Really cool show.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: BlackInk on November 04, 2017, 02:43:31 AM
Finished it a few days ago and really liked it. I absolutely loved the scene where they have Will tied up and just tell him stories. No score, no action, just a lot of genuine emotion. Loved that.

Also, I donít quite understand why everyone has such a problem with Nancy.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on November 04, 2017, 05:41:50 AM
Mike's mom was smokin hawt in the final episode.

I totally loved that scene where she comes to the door in her bathrobe. Max's brother is all "Nobody told me Nancy had a sister". Brilliantly done.

El totally blew Max off when she tried to introduce herself. I wonder if that's going to be a recurring theme in S3?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: masterthes on November 04, 2017, 11:41:16 AM
I don't think so. Now that the relationships are squared up, I think El's going to be fine with Max
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: WDADU on November 04, 2017, 02:52:39 PM
I think it'll be an issue for the first couple episodes, and then they will develop a genuine liking and respect for one another---especially since Max and Lucas seem to have a thang goin' on and is no longer a romantic threat to Mike and Eleven's relationship.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: abydos on November 04, 2017, 03:34:01 PM
It felt much more like a high school movie than the first and Max and her brother felt utterly useless.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jingle.boy on November 04, 2017, 05:15:12 PM
I don't think so. Now that the relationships are squared up, I think El's going to be fine with Max

Agreed.

I also liked how the Doc was setup to look like a total douche - and still part of the 'evil' DoE, and during the climactic events, he was just as much the hero as Samwise.  It's still unclear to me how he survived - did he slip on the stairs or something?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: soupytwist on November 14, 2017, 01:39:05 AM
Finished this up over the weekend.  Love the characters on this show, don't always think the story nails it - but I could happy watch most of these characters just chatting for 7 episodes!     Steve was my MVP of this second series.   Lost his spot as Top Jock, lost his Girl, took a Hollywood style beatdown - but still came out of the season as a really likeable guy, his stuff with Dustin was Gold.

Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2017, 04:48:58 AM
:iagree:... Steve was the guy that I found most interesting, and evolved the most beyond S1.  Everyone else was the exact same character (not that it's a bad thing).  Hopper had a bit of an interesting twist by being 11's caretaker - and developing some feelings for her - but otherwise, there weren't that many surprises from any of the returning characters.  It's a good thing they threw in Bob/Bill/Max/The Doctor for some 'freshness'.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: soupytwist on November 14, 2017, 05:25:56 AM
They didn't really have anything for Mike to do in this season.  Distin and Lucas both had there own stories, and Will was very much the focus point of the main plot, then there was Mike just there in the background pining for El to comeback.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2017, 05:44:25 AM
They didn't really have anything for Mike to do in this season.  Distin and Lucas both had there own stories, and Will was very much the focus point of the main plot, then there was Mike just there in the background pining for El to comeback.

Which I was ok with, since Mike was clearly the focus of the four of them in S1.  It's hard to shine the spotlight on so many characters.  I was actually ok with it being someone different in S2.  I can see Dustin and/or Lucas getting the spotlight in S3.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: sylvan on November 14, 2017, 06:14:07 AM
But my girlfriend and I are in agreement that if Nancy ever gets killed, we won't cry about it  :lol She's the Felicity Smoak (Arrow) of this show

Dude... Lana Lang from Smallville. That girl has a concussion in EVERY episode. Drs should be studying her brain for the most extrememe cases of CTE  :rollin
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: sylvan on November 14, 2017, 06:25:17 AM
My only criticism is with episode 7 and the whole 008 storyline. I wasnít mad keen on it in general, but I think this may have worked better being interspersed into other episodes. Dedicating a whole episode to it seemed a bit unnecessary.

Here comes the spinoff!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: sylvan on November 14, 2017, 06:39:45 AM
I don't binge these shows, so it took me a couple weeks to finish the season. I had heard all the uproar about the teenage actress playing Max being "forced to do an unscripted kiss. When it finally came in the last episode, it made no sense. First off, to call that a kiss is a gross overstatement. She head-butted him and the opposite corners of their mouths touched. Oh, how controversial! :mehlin Then 5 seconds later, Mike and El kiss. The whole season, Mike was essentially waiting for the return of El. When she finally showed up at Will's, it was this emotional reconnection that lead to Mike lashing out at Hopper. When Mike's sitting at the dance all alone as everyone else is getting close on the dance floor, and El walked in, it was again this emotional connection between the two. The kiss that they shared should have been the culmination of them trying to get to each other the entire season, this great emotional connection between the two of them. INSTEAD, the entire dance scene came off as a bunch of 13 year olds doing what 13 year olds do... awkwardly have no control over their urges.

So, not only do I find the UNSCRIPTED Max/Lucas kiss to not be controversial, it was a stupid creative decision that completely ruined the impact of the SCRIPTED kiss. I honestly don't know how someone at that level could make such an AWFUL creative decision.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: BlackInk on November 14, 2017, 10:37:10 AM
You definetely have a point, but I wouldnít say it was AWFUL.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: TioJorge on November 14, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Finished it. Not bad, not great. Enjoyable moments, and some very redundant filler. I really think they're just milking it at this point and it's pretty clear that while they may have had some scraps and bits of a story to tell for another season, it certainly wasn't fleshed out and I'm going to go out on a really thin limb and say that Netflix pushed very hard to get this out quicker than the brothers intended.

It doesn't have to do with the first season coming out of nowhere or it being some magical bull. It's pretty simple in that it was concise and concentrated, knew exactly what story it wanted to tell and made a conscious effort to tell that story in a meaningful way in a fairly limited amount of time, as most seasons of that length do with either fantastic results or very bad results.

I don't think S2 was bad but it was a far cry from what the original intended to do and that is pretty clear in it's execution and how meandering some of the episodes are, especially in regards to character development and who they choose to focus on.

I'll no doubt check out S3 at some point, even if it's just as a boredom killer, but it's super disappointing to see what could have been something truly original and special more or less degrade at least partially thanks to greed. Netflix is known for this though so I suppose it shouldn't be all that surprising.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: sylvan on November 14, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
You definetely have a point, but I wouldnít say it was AWFUL.

I only use that word because it felt like a moment that was building since the end of season 1, and could have been a very impactful moment. It's just feel like that was lost in the moment due to an unscripted creative decision that undid a very emotional plot point that was initially well thought out and presented by the writers.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: SoundscapeMN on November 20, 2017, 10:59:55 AM
https://twitter.com/Stranger_Things/status/932370869506138112
was reminded of how Mr.Wheeler reminds me of Mr. Weir Freaks and Geeks.

someone should make a mashup of the 2 of them, and also I'm hoping that some of the Freaks and Geeks cast show up at some point, even just as cameos. Although Wil Wheaton was I guess talked about appearing in Stranger Things 2, but it didn't work out.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: DragonAttack on November 21, 2017, 06:30:09 PM
We did not binge watch over a weekend as we did Season 1.  Instead, it took us about three weeks for this season.  I try to watch it just as light entertainment that is pretty well developed.  And then we watch the last two episodes.  Holy crap!  That was intense! 

Episode 7 reminded us of Breaking Bad's 'The Fly' episode.  That seemed out of place as well, and then they come at you with both barrels.  We liked the pace of this season (again).  Also glad that after a bunch of 1980-81 tunes, that some from '84 were played......and yeah, hearing Queen's 'Hammer To Fall' was a nice touch for us ;)
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on November 22, 2017, 02:22:21 AM
We did not binge watch over a weekend as we did Season 1.  Instead, it took us about three weeks for this season.  I try to watch it just as light entertainment that is pretty well developed.  And then we watch the last two episodes.  Holy crap!  That was intense! 

Episode 7 reminded us of Breaking Bad's 'The Fly' episode.  That seemed out of place as well, and then they come at you with both barrels.  We liked the pace of this season (again).  Also glad that after a bunch of 1980-81 tunes, that some from '84 were played......and yeah, hearing Queen's 'Hammer To Fall' was a nice touch for us ;)

Yes - I thought the same. After the episode finished I turned to the wife and said "filler!".
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: ariich on November 22, 2017, 07:49:54 AM
My friend and I are bemused by the hate towards episode 7. We both thought it was great.

People are weird.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Podaar on November 22, 2017, 08:00:42 AM
^

I did as well. I don't think it would make sense for Eleven to give up her quest for family and return to her friends if she didn't find out that the grass wasn't greener. I liked the episode.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 22, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
My friend and I are bemused by the hate towards episode 7. We both thought it was great.

I did as well. I don't think it would make sense for Eleven to give up her quest for family and return to her friends if she didn't find out that the grass wasn't greener. I liked the episode.

Plus, I don't think that's the last we will see of her 'sister'. I think you needed that introductory episode with her and Elle/Jane for better continuity when she shows up down the line.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on November 22, 2017, 08:55:03 AM
My friend and I are bemused by the hate towards episode 7. We both thought it was great.

People are weird.

I don't think too many people hate it, but it just seemed very out of place. I thought it was a great episode, but just from another show or something. It was like a backdoor pilot in the middle of a tight run.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: cramx3 on November 22, 2017, 09:00:54 AM
The GF and I took our time and finished a few nights ago.  It was solid, but nothing amazing.  Thought the first season was better, more intrigue then and now the storyline is a bit convoluted.  I had no issue with the episode 7.  Was also glad someone with a bigger role actually died, need some suspense in this show and they really don't have it since everyone feels safe although his death seemed pretty obvious when he stepped up to the plate and manned up unlike what his character appeared to have been in the past.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 24, 2017, 07:18:44 AM
Started watching Season one about a week and a half ago. Finished season 2 on Wednesday night. Incredible show! Loved everything about it. Can't wait for season 3.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: lonestar on November 27, 2017, 09:23:43 AM

Sesame Street parody....Sharing Things....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npcqBt_e4k0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npcqBt_e4k0)


There are some S2 spoilers, just an fyi.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on November 27, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
This show was not on my radar.  I had heard a few things here and there, but nothing to really draw me in.  But my sister was hyping it over Thanksgiving, and me and my wife, my boys, my sister, and my niece and nephew ended up binge watching the first season Friday and Saturday night.  Just...wow.  Lots of really good things to say about it.  There were definitely things about it that bugged me as well.  But overall, really good.  It managed to catch the '80s vibe incredibly well, whether through the music, the clothes (without being over the top), the cars, Winona in a lead role, or what have you.  And I loved that it constantly reminded me of some of the best '80s films without crossing the line and feeling like they were trying to hard (I probably got the strongest callbacks to Stand By Me, Poltergeist, and E.T., as well as having the spirit of Stephen King all over the place without feeling like they were referencing any specific King story). 

I read the beginning of the thread, but stopped where the studio had been dropping information about the then-forthcoming season 2.  I will stay out of the thread until we watch that.  Not sure when, but I am sure we will see all sometime between now and then end of the New Year break. 

A few thoughts and theories about the story after just seeing Season 1 one time.  Some of this may have actually been explained in season 1 and we just missed it.  Some may be proven or disproven in season 2.  I have no idea.  Just throwing some things out there that I was thinking about and some things I discussed with the wife and kids.

So...it seems like the main portal between the Upside Down and here is what was opened at the lab, and is fed and kept open by some big power source there.  Unless we were intentionally misled, I think that much is pretty clear.  What wasn't clear, at least to us, is how the small portals that opened and closed (like the one in the tree that Nancy went through) worked.  And, related to that (or not?), is how the monster crossed over by more or less making its own portals and smashing through walls.  Again, not sure whether there was actually more info than I gleaned through a first viewing, or whether this is all explained better in season 2, but here is my main theory as to how it works.  My son was asking whether the monster creates the other portals.  Could be, but I don't think so.  I think the smaller portals appear and disappear more or less on their own in the area close by Hawkins Lab because that area is in close proximity to the power source and/or the main "rip" between realms.  I think maybe power fluctuations or something like that cause them to open and close, and the monster sometimes finds them and comes through.  Using the analogy of the paper that the high school teacher used, I think where we have the "main tear" at the portal, the "paper" is weaker close to that point, and as the "paper" flexes and moves, other holes open and close nearby.  Kind of related to that, because the "paper" is weaker at that point, I think the monster is able to sometimes break through at points fairly near the main portal, but probably not other places.  And the reason it likely chooses to do so at times, I think, is because it can hear (and possibly see) others making loud noises on the other side in places close to that main portal, just as Joyce and Hopper could in the last episode when they were in the Upside Down.  So, reality is distorted and the boundary between here and the Upside Down is weaker and tends to fluctuate close to the main portal, which enables a fluctuating ability to cross back and forth in the area close to the main portal, which weakens and disappears the farther away you go.  That's my best theory anyway. 

So...is Eleven alive?  At first, I assumed she had to be gone.  There's just too much that wouldn't work about her trying to assimilate into the real world that it seemed best anyway.  But I assumed she really died.  I thought Hopper leaving food was basically a memorial.  But then I began second guessing that, and I think she must be alive, and that he knows it.

Is the monster alive?  I don't know.  But I don't think it matters.  I wasn't sure whether the snakelike thing they removed from Will's throat was another living thing, or whether it was basically a feeding/breathing mechanism to keep him alive while another one spawned or something.  But I think either way, the hint has been dropped that there are (or soon will be) more of them.  And if not, there are (or soon will be) other creatures from the Upside Down that are going to create problems. 

Steve.  Hated him.  But it was cool that he had more or less of a redemption arc.  He seemed obviously genuinely sorry and changed by everything, which seems to have put him on a good path instead of the very bad one he was on.  I like that.  I hope he stays on that better path.

Will.  Was what he saw at the end of the last episode a hallucination?  Was it real?  If it was real, what does it mean?  And does he understand what is happening, or is he afraid and in denial?  If he has part of the Upside Down that is now a part of him, does he have a special connection with the Upside Down that will allow him to connect with El, open and close portals, or other stuff?  I have no idea.

Anyhow, see you all in a few weeks once I get caught up.  :D
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 04, 2017, 09:03:53 AM
Wow, no discussion?   :tdwn  Oh well...

So, started season 2 over the weekend.  Got through episode 4.  Some brief thoughts:

-The positive:  This far in, it is pretty clear that the writers have done a really nice job of crafting a credible follow up that manages to take everything that made the first season good and raise the stakes without feeling like the writers just fell into the trap of having to one-up their prior work without having any substance behind it.  Season 1 was awesome because it was fresh, but also because the story was solid.  Season 2 can't have that newness and originality that season 1 had.  But it is just as solid, if not moreso.  The '80s nostalgia remains strong, and feels even more on point.

-The negative:  Not much.  The only major thing is, I was hoping that now that the show is a success and more mainstream, they would have been able to resist the urge to make the characters so "edgy" with all the gratuitous, over-the-top profanity and bad behavior.  Not only is it not necessary, but it makes the characters more a parody of what people nowadays think about the '80s than what the '80s actually were.

Anyhow, good story on its own.  But, as with season 1, there is a lot of deep symbolism that adds a lot of layers and makes it rewarding to watch and draw connections beyond just following the plot (as if just following this awesome plot isn't enough fun in and of itself).  I love how pretty much EVERYTHING is symbolic, no matter how seemingly innocuous it may seem when first introduced.  Dig Dug forshadowing what is going on beneath Hawkins, for example.  This is pretty fantastic.  I have this dilemma right now of wanting to rush through and finish, while at the same time, wanting to take my time and savor the show.  Part of me really wants to drag it out.  After all, it can't possibly remain this good for multiple seasons after season 2, can it?  Can it?
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: sylvan on December 04, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
I had a feeling season 2 would answer a lot of your questions. I still don't think we know what exactly the Upside Down is, or the monster. There's deeper insight into the connection with Will. Obviously you've gotten some answers about 11at this point. I think I'm pleased with where Steve ends up in the story.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Kattelox on December 04, 2017, 10:07:49 AM
When you finish season 2, I'd be curious to know your thoughts on Billy, Max, Steve's evolution, Eleven, and Will.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 04, 2017, 10:33:09 AM
I still don't think we know what exactly the Upside Down is, or the monster.

But as much as we all probably think we WANT to know those things, do we NEED to?  Will it make the story better or worse?  Sometimes, we just don't need to know, and it's better when the menace remains shrouded in mystery.  (xenomorphs, I'm looking at you)

When you finish season 2, I'd be curious to know your thoughts on Billy, Max, Steve's evolution, Eleven, and Will.

I'm almost more curious to know what my feelings on Samwise Gamgee will be.  :lol  He unknowingly really screwed up Will by offering his advice on how to handle things he is not able to understand.  I have mixed feelings on that.  On one hand, he's a buffoon who makes things worse because he's too eager to fit into this role that he wants in his life.  On the other hand, how could he possibly know that there are things going on that are a lot bigger than the world he lives in?

As for the others you mention, I'm curious too.  Billy is a bit of an enigma.  Aside from giving sound basketball advice to Steve, he comes across as a complete tool and a psycho, but with a lot more going on beneath the surface than has been revealed so far.  But as much as I dislike him, I'm reminded that I disliked Steve just as much, but that he had a rather admirable redemption arc in season one that completely turned his character around. 

Speaking of Steve, I'm not entirely sure where I stand with him.  I still admire him for his ability to confront his own faults and turn things around in season 1.  And I kind of feel sorry for him for what he is going through in the first half of season 2.  I'm kind of annoyed by his emotional immaturity in dealing with Nancy and taking her drunken ramblings at the party too personally.  But then again, I have to remind myself that he's a kid, and one that was coming from a pretty self-centered place.  He just isn't equipped yet to handle that sort of thing with more maturity and grace, so I shouldn't expect that of him.  He's also not as equipped to fully understand and appreciate what Nancy and Jonathan were and are going through, so I sort of give him a pass on that end as well.  But that last point also saddens me a bit too because it makes me feel that Nancy and Steve are somewhat doomed as a couple anyway.  Nobody is really equipped to understand her and deal with her stuggles over Barb and the Upside Down other than Jonathan.

I really like Max and hope she becomes an actual and permanent "member of the party."  I don't see how she won't, unless something tragic happens to her.  But there seems to be something deep and mysterious about her and Billy's background, and I'm not sure what it is.  Are they also part of the experiments that created Eleven and Eight (and, presumably, at least 9 others with powers)? 

Anyhow, I'm just rambling.  It's cool that there is so much to chew on here.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 05, 2017, 08:51:29 AM
#justiceformews

I love this comment from a user at AVClub:

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Dustinís dumb decision makes sense if you accept that he really wants life to be like E.T., and this episode underlines how the show is trying to draw a line between fantasy-weird and reality-weird: You might want the fantastical creature hiding in the closet to be your lifelong companion, but itís probably just eating your cat.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: soupytwist on December 05, 2017, 09:10:36 AM
#justiceformews

I love this comment from a user at AVClub:

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Dustinís dumb decision makes sense if you accept that he really wants life to be like E.T., and this episode underlines how the show is trying to draw a line between fantasy-weird and reality-weird: You might want the fantastical creature hiding in the closet to be your lifelong companion, but itís probably just eating your cat.

Dustin's nonplussed reaction to losing his cat was the thing that annoyed me most about season 2. 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: cramx3 on December 05, 2017, 10:33:12 AM
#justiceformews

I love this comment from a user at AVClub:

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Dustinís dumb decision makes sense if you accept that he really wants life to be like E.T., and this episode underlines how the show is trying to draw a line between fantasy-weird and reality-weird: You might want the fantastical creature hiding in the closet to be your lifelong companion, but itís probably just eating your cat.

Dustin's nonplussed reaction to losing his cat was the thing that annoyed me most about season 2.

Did he have a relationship with the cat?  Im not sure it was made clear he had a connection to it and it seemed more to be his mother's pet and loved animal.  I kind of figured he really didn't care for the cat and hence his non emotional response to the eating.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: soupytwist on December 06, 2017, 02:20:19 AM
#justiceformews

I love this comment from a user at AVClub:

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Dustinís dumb decision makes sense if you accept that he really wants life to be like E.T., and this episode underlines how the show is trying to draw a line between fantasy-weird and reality-weird: You might want the fantastical creature hiding in the closet to be your lifelong companion, but itís probably just eating your cat.

Dustin's nonplussed reaction to losing his cat was the thing that annoyed me most about season 2.

Did he have a relationship with the cat?  Im not sure it was made clear he had a connection to it and it seemed more to be his mother's pet and loved animal.  I kind of figured he really didn't care for the cat and hence his non emotional response to the eating.

Maybe as a cat lover (not like that...) I just found his nonplussed reaction unrealistic, I think it would have been better if they'd made it a stray cat/dog, because even as a 40 year old bloke I still find the loss of a family pet really, really tough. 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 14, 2017, 09:13:23 AM
How was he "nonplussed?"  To me, he seemed reasonably shocked, but that was overshadowed by his sense of, "Oh, crap! I need to handle this before mom (1) finds out, or (2) becomes a snack herself."  At least, that's what I took from eps. 4 and 5 together. 

Anyhow, I had to take a break from this because I just didn't have the time.  I just watched ep. 5 last night.  This episode was so rewarding and so frustrating on so many levels.  The show's ability to constantly promise resolution of issues, but then semi-deliver at a level where you don't feel cheated, but everything still isn't resolved, is one of its cool strengths. 

On another note, I was thinking about getting this as an additional Christmas present for my son:  https://www.amazon.com/Hawkins-Middle-School-Sweatshirt-Hoodie/dp/B01M5J54FC/ref=cts_ap_2_vtp?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2897711222&pf_rd_r=817a866a-e0e6-11e7-8413-93d9fb3ae34e&pd_rd_wg=Ww0n9&pf_rd_s=desktop-detail-softlines&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_i=B01MQCHLIL&pd_rd_w=RiNTX&pf_rd_i=desktop-detail-softlines&pd_rd_r=817a866a-e0e6-11e7-8413-93d9fb3ae34e&_encoding=UTF8&th=1&psc=1
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on December 14, 2017, 09:21:00 AM
Very cool. I like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M2CQY4S/ref=sspa_dk_detail_9?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01M2CQY4S&pd_rd_wg=brVVi&pd_rd_r=RZ1CKG8Q9XF9VM1XHY43&pd_rd_w=G5DuH
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 14, 2017, 09:31:01 AM
Yeah, I saw that one as well.  It is pretty cool, especially little touches like the upside down bike.  The only problem is, it is pretty season-specific.  The one I linked to, you can wear pretty much anytime. 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 15, 2017, 10:26:19 AM
Space Knife.  :metalol:

The Spy simultaneously pissed me off and was one of the best episodes of the series. 

Back to Dart and Dustin for just a second.  3 episodes left in season 2, and I've been able to stay spoiler free as I've been viewing.  So I'm curious--was anyone here actually surprised when Dart turned out to be basically a baby "demogorgon?"  I mean, yeah, we didn't see his face open up until he ate the cat.  But wasn't it obvious to everybody in the world?  But interesting how the end of The Spy changed my perspective a bit on a few things related to that.  The demogorgon in season 1 was scary.  But at the same time, it seemed somewhat limited in the harm it could inflict.  It skulked around in the shadows and picked people off when they were alone or in small groups.  But even Nancy, Jonathan, and Steve were able to do major damage and keep it at bay with their traps.  In season 2, it didn't seem that that scary a creature, because now we have a growing group of people that are prepared for it.  So the one Dustin had seemed like more of a relatively minor threat, even assuming it would reach maturity at some point. 

The other thing that had changed prior to this is that I was pissed off at Dustin's stupidity.  He isn't a dumb kid.  But "minor threat" or not, the thing was going to be a problem, and he would then be at fault for not recognizing that threat and at least trying to kill it while he still could. 

The last few minutes of The Spy changed all that.  Seeing the shadow creature orchestrate the killing off of an entire group of Hawkins Lab red shirts was pretty chilling.  These things aren't even full grown, and they can do that with ease.  They are clearly NOT a "minor threat" at all.  And in a way, that same revelation kind of let Dustin off the hook for me somewhat.  I mean, if Dart isn't the only one of those things, then his stupidity really isn't to blame for a bunch of them now running amok.  Dart is only one of many, so it doesn't really matter.1


1  And part of me, although it is admittedly a part of me that has VERY poor judgment for what actually makes a GOOD story vs. a bad one, kind of secretly hopes that Dart feels some sort of connection to Dustin and saves him and the gang from some harm at some point.  How dumb would that be?  But I can't help myself.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on December 20, 2017, 04:02:16 AM
Back to Dart and Dustin for just a second.  3 episodes left in season 2, and I've been able to stay spoiler free as I've been viewing.  So I'm curious--was anyone here actually surprised when Dart turned out to be basically a baby "demogorgon?"  I mean, yeah, we didn't see his face open up until he ate the cat.  But wasn't it obvious to everybody in the world? 

It was obvious that it would grew and become more dangerous, but I didn't realize it was an actual Demogorgon.

I've just finished watching the whole Season 2 so DO NOT READ FURTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL WATCHING IT!


















I liked it quite a lot. It's not perfect of course, but the good enough things about the show are really that good to let you completely enjoy it. I've liked Season 1 very much, but it's not that I couldn't live without it and I was in feverish anticipation of Season 2, but the moment I started to watch it, I was immediately drawn again to the Hawkins world. The characters, the atmosphere, the music... there's something about this show that just hits it and makes it immensely captive to watch.

Like Season 1, it was as low burn. The "OH SHITSHITSHITSHIT" moments come in the latter part of the season (like the end of episode 4 if I remember back in season 1, with Will's fake body discovered), but when it happens, you just can't stop watching.

The cast of kids is the heart and soul of the show, and it's a match made in heaven. Give a Emmy to the casting department for the kids, they struck GOLD, especially with Will's actor since all he needed to do was being a lost kid in Season 1, but now had to be a possessed kid screaming with rage and fear. Outstanding work from the kid.

Also, I want to submerge El with hugs until she has problems breathing. Once again an absolute talent of a young actress creates an adorable and compelling character that you just can't avoid to love, and how bad I want her to be happy, smiling, and full of Eggos whenever she wants it.

Like read earlier in the thread and on comments on the web, they should have totally swapped episodes 7 and 6. You can't just have the biggest "FFFUUUUUU" cliffhanger of the seasons, the Demodogs crawling out of the lab, being followed an entire detour episode. It would have worked way better to have El's training on Dagobah (Search your feelings. You know it to be true) first, with us going WTF at the scene of Mike yelling that it's a trap (What it's happening? why? OMG I wanna know), and then seeing it unfold in the FOLLOWING episode and realizing it only when it was too late - just like the characters in the situation - would have been waaaayyy better.

And what about the conspiracy guy basically encouraging underage kids to have sex? pretty sure the creep had an hidden camera somewhere.

This season was Steve's redemption. I've read that he was meant to be a total asshole (and boy, what an unforgivable thing was to slut shame Nancy by vandalizing public property), but the authors loved the actor so much that they turned him around, boy did he came around this year - and after all it's only logical that boys grow up and mature. His total dickish teenager role has been given to Billy evidently (Metalhead moment: wasn't Metallica an unknown underground band known only to "true" metalheads back in 1984? Billy, who's definitively not a metalhead even though he listens to Scorpions, had a Kill 'em All poster in his room).

The two final episodes were breathtaking and awesome. Cruel of them to kill off Samwise Gamgee in that horror movies cliches fest. Poor guy. Remember Bob the hero. And Barb got justice, yay!!!

Only fear for season 3... that they're walking on thin ice story wise, this was essentially a retelling of Season 1's plot. But the cast of kids is worth alone an entire season of them being young kids fooling around. And I hope Nancy's mother gets some side action  :lol
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 20, 2017, 09:02:33 AM
Tempted to read that, but I won't.  I still have the last 2 episodes to go.  Watched through The Lost Sister last weekend.  My wife had fallen asleep, so she rewatched that one last night, and I caught the first half or so again as I was drifting off. 

**Spoilers through The Lost Sister below**

I have made sure to stay away from spoilers.  But there is a contributor on AVClub.com named Emily L. Stephens who writes an episode-by-episode blog that is quite good.  I have really enjoyed going to each entry as I finish an episode and reading, not only her very well-written reviews, but also the comments and discussion.  And people there tend to be good about not spoiling, so that's cool.  As I understand is the case around the Internet, people there were quite divided about The Lost Sister.  Some absolutely hated it.  Some thought it was "fine."  VERY few seem to have actively liked it.  Aside from the general difference in tone, a common issue even among those who thought it was okay is that the gang just seemed like a bunch of cardboard cutouts with no real motivation in general, and certainly no motivation about going out and helping Kali go out and kill.  That is one of the issues I myself had.  But as I watched that episode again, I softened a bit on that.  There is a brief section where Kali is introducing the gang and what they do, and she points out that they all are rejects that were cast off by society, and that the people they go after have hurt the specific members of the gang (not just Kali) in some way.  There isn't much more given than that.  But hearing that again in context of having seen the episode, I think it worked more than I initially felt it did.  Yeah, the details are VERY vague, but we DO get a bit of explanation for why the others in the gang are doing what they are doing instead of "just because."  And I guess I just feel like the show has earned enough emotional capitol that I don't have TOO much trouble buying that. 

My general thoughts on the episode were that, while it is easily the worst single episode of both seasons, it wasn't bad.  I don't hate it.  And it does definitely help serve the purpose of Jane's (I hate not calling her El now) arc and development in a few big ways OTHER than simply completing her journey out of Hopper's cabin and back to the gang in Hawkins.  (1) There was some definite emotional growth and self-discovery, even if it may not appear very profound at this point and, in some senses, may have come about in kinda dumb ways; (2) It gave her a new perspective about how her friends need her; (3) It unlocked a barrier in her learning how to up her game with her powers, which, for better or worse, is necessary to defeat the shadow monster; and (4) It served as a reminder of why, as much as we might wish otherwise, Jane simply CANNOT lead a normal life because, even if we can somehow come to terms with all the other stuff, she killed a bunch of people.  So even though the episode felt in a lot of ways like the series was just treading water and taking a completely unnecessary diversion, it actually accomplished a lot.  In fact, in some ways, I think it may have actually accomplished more than some other single episodes this season.  That still doesn't make me love it.  But I am okay with it.

So, here's where I think we are going in the final two episodes.  Again, I haven't read any spoilers, so to the extent I am correct, if at all, it is just from deducing things based on what has been done so far.  A good deal of this is likely to be wrong.  But whatever.  I think Jane has to do two things.  First, she has to "exorcise" the shadow monster from Will.  Second, she has to shut the gate.  Earlier this season, I don't think she would have been able to figure out how to amp up her powers sufficiently to do either.  This is why I think The Lost Sister is important.  She had her "Luke, size matters now; now lift the stupid X-wing!" moment, and she will need that to accomplish both of those.  We also got some insight into how her powers work.  It isn't about trying harder, or focusing harder, or something like that.  It is about invoking a strong emotion, and channeling her power through that.  Kali had her use anger.  That could work here.  But I'm not sure there will be anything she could get that angry about to accomplish what she needs to accomplish that would feel emotionally satisfying.  Maybe Billy threatens the entire gang in some real, tangible way, and that somehow is enough?  (and gives him at least SOMETHING more than just the cardboard stereotype he has been so far)  Or maybe she taps a completely different emotion, and it ends up being her LOVE for the gang that she is able to use to level up her powers and do what needs to be done.  Either way, The Lost Sister appears to be important for that reason.

Of course, if she casts the shadow monster out of Will and closes the gate (which I don't see as even possibly not happening), then how do we possibly leave things open for a season 3?  I was thinking that maybe Hopper is also now "infected" with the upside down after the time he spent down in the tunnels.  When he got sprayed in the face twice before passing out, it looked like that was some kind of spore, maybe not too unlike the alien spores in Alien: Covenant.  It would not surprise me to see him cough up a slug in the season 2 epilogue just like we saw happen to Will at the end of season 1. 

Anyhow, I am eager to see how close or how completely off base I am.  My son finishes finals today.  We will probably watch tomorrow night, or Friday at the latest. 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on December 20, 2017, 09:24:18 AM
NOT SPOILERISH REPLY TO YOUR LAST COMMENT

You're in for a treat with the last two episodes!  :metal excellent stuff.

I copy and paste a comment from my post above since it's about episodes you've seen:

Like read earlier in the thread and on comments on the web, they should have totally swapped episodes 7 and 6. You can't just let the biggest "FFFUUUUUU" cliffhanger of the seasons, the Demodogs crawling out of the lab, followed by an entire detour episode. It would have worked way better to have El's training on Dagobah (Search your feelings. You know it to be true) first, with us going WTF at the scene of Mike yelling that it's a trap (What it's happening? why? OMG I wanna know), and then seeing it unfold in the FOLLOWING episode and realizing it only when it was too late - just like the characters in the situation - would have been waaaayyy better.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 20, 2017, 09:44:18 AM
The only problem with that is that having it in this order, you get a true emotionally-poignant moment of El hearing Hopper's message to her.  That couldn't have happened in the order you suggest.  I'm okay having the delayed cliffhanger payoff.

But going back to the cliffhanger itself...the sound effect is really subtle and understated, so I can't tell if it is what I think it is.  But is that basically the shadow monster laughing as it springs the trap?  It sounds like laughing, which is really chilling (and brilliantly so). 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: kaos2900 on December 22, 2017, 07:53:35 AM
Finally finished season 2 last night. Really strong ending. Curious to see where they go in season 3. Don't understand the kiss controversy. It's like everyone forgot what it was like to be in middle school. Could have done with out episode 7 but a very minor gripe for an otherwise amazing show.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on December 22, 2017, 07:59:13 AM
Another thing that rang true was Dustin being shunned by the other girls. Call me bitter 'cause as a young teen I was most definitively not handsome in any kind of way, but I'm sick of the Hollywood trope of the nerdy / outsider guy getting the hot girl. It - just - doesn't - happen.

All things that make Dustin loveable are there for us, the viewers, and not for the girls of his age at the ball. It's only logical that they wouldn't care to dance with the weird kid that got teeth late and dresses up as a Ghostbuster and hangs around always with his weird friends and the "zombie boy". Good job from Nancy to save the day and make him feel important.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 22, 2017, 08:31:13 AM
(Metalhead moment: wasn't Metallica an unknown underground band known only to "true" metalheads back in 1984? Billy, who's definitively not a metalhead even though he listens to Scorpions, had a Kill 'em All poster in his room).

Not only that, but the scene where he was getting ready to go out and his dad came in and confronted him, he was listening to Metallica.

Finally finished season 2 last night. Really strong ending.

Me too!  :D  Some thoughts:

Coming into the last two episodes, I had been thinking that as much as I enjoyed season 2 thus far, it was good, but not as good as season 1.  There were a lot of things I liked.  But some that just didn't work, and season 2 just seemed to spin its wheels for awhile setting up the inevitable big showdown at the end.  But these last two episodes were SO good that I felt like they really took season 2 up a notch and put it right up there with season 1.  And what is cool to me is that much of that comes from the little, seemingly inconsequential details that, in the end, were very rewarding.

One such detail was when they were in the house, weapons drawn, waiting for the demodogs to crash in on them, and we see Lucas with his wrist rocket locked and loaded, and looking deadly serious.  That was SUCH a cool visual on so many levels, and I love that they did that.

Another was Will communicating through Morse code.  Kids back then knew Morse code, especially nerds who spent their time playing D&D, so it totally rang true.  And it was a very clever way of (1) calling back to how Will communicated with the lights in season 1 to spell words, and (2) having him communicate in such a way that the mind flayer wouldn't have picked up on, but everybody else would.  And also, juxtaposed on top of that, you had a brilliant way of getting a ton of backstory exposition about the characters in this scene that was very emotional.  Just...SO well done.

Steve:  Really nice character development for him this season.  I REALLY like what they did with him.  The fight with Billy was really cool, too.  He unflinchingly stood his ground to protect the kids simply because it was the right thing to do, knowing that he was outmatched and likely to lose.  And...he did lose in the end, which was the realistic way to play it.  And even after that, he didn't shy away from his responsibility to protect the kids when they went down into the tunnels.  He's...kinda what you would want/expect of a kid that age in that plenty of growing and maturing to do, and had some serious character flaws that you would expect someone that age to have, but he also was beginning to make some really good choices and show that he had a lot in him that could make him an exemplary young man. 

Dart:  Called it!  :D

Another thing that rang true was Dustin being shunned by the other girls. Call me bitter 'cause as a young teen I was most definitively not handsome in any kind of way, but I'm sick of the Hollywood trope of the nerdy / outsider guy getting the hot girl. It - just - doesn't - happen.

All things that make Dustin loveable are there for us, the viewers, and not for the girls of his age at the ball. It's only logical that they wouldn't care to dance with the weird kid that got teeth late and dresses up as a Ghostbuster and hangs around always with his weird friends and the "zombie boy". Good job from Nancy to save the day and make him feel important.

Yup!  LOVED that.  It was done perfectly.  I thought FOR SURE that one of the girls he asked was going to dance with him, and that would have been satisfying.  The way it played out was even better.  And it also really took Nancy's character, who annoyed me plenty at time, up a notch as well.

One last note:  I made a prediction about defeating the mind flayer that ended up being wrong, but I'll drop it here anyway.  I got the "heat" thing and expected that.  But I also was pretty sure water would be involved.  It seemed like they were dropping clues that it didn't like water.  For instance, Master Samwise made a big point about the tunnel map going around water.  I mean, I realize that for tunnels, there is a very practical reason why they can't easily go under a lake.  But I thought the Duffers were dropping a hint that the mindflayer was avoiding water and didn't like it.  That seemed to be reinforced by Will recoiling at the bath water earlier in the season, and seemed like a mirror/counterpoint to water being used to enhance El's abilities.  It all seemed to fit so nicely that I was sure of it.  :dunno:  Oh well.

Not sure where season 3 is headed, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hopper and Dustin start coughing up slugs from getting sprayed in the face in the tunnels, and that that somehow gives the mind flayer a connection back to Hawkins to reopen the gate.  I guess we'll see when we see.  It's been a fun ride through season 2.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on December 22, 2017, 09:17:50 AM
Another was Will communicating through Morse code.  Kids back then knew Morse code, especially nerds who spent their time playing D&D, so it totally rang true.  And it was a very clever way of (1) calling back to how Will communicated with the lights in season 1 to spell words, and (2) having him communicate in such a way that the mind flayer wouldn't have picked up on, but everybody else would.  And also, juxtaposed on top of that, you had a brilliant way of getting a ton of backstory exposition about the characters in this scene that was very emotional.  Just...SO well done.

Excellent analysis! it's not that I didn't pick up on that, but having spelled it out so clearly makes me think even more fondly of the scene.  I've read that him and Millie Bobby Brown are close friends, maybe they could capitalize on that and give them more scenes in Season 3. They hardly interacted with each other at all, so far.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: kaos2900 on December 22, 2017, 11:04:20 AM
I remember reading that the creators originally planned on only doing 1 season but now have a 4 season arc planned. I also think Dustin is infected. Forgot about Hopper. I wonder if Will continue to be the "one" who the upside down continues to focus on.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on December 22, 2017, 12:36:25 PM
#JusticeForYertle
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: SystematicThought on December 22, 2017, 10:26:00 PM
I remember reading that the creators originally planned on only doing 1 season but now have a 4 season arc planned. I also think Dustin is infected. Forgot about Hopper. I wonder if Will continue to be the "one" who the upside down continues to focus on.
The kids are signed on for six more seasons and season three is rumored to premiere not until 2019, so it'll be interesting to see if it lasts that long. Bloodline was supposed to be 6+ seasons, but that went pear shaped...
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Adami on December 22, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
6 seasons? Eh.

I say give it 1-2 more. After that I fear it'll turn into Walking Dead where it's just going to be going.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: SystematicThought on December 22, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
I think it will go for another season or two as well. People are going to lose interest, it doesn't come back for two more years (rumored), and the kids are going to grow up. I'm in the camp of season 2 being better than 1, but I don't see it continuing in that way
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on December 23, 2017, 05:55:02 AM
Indeed the biggest obstacle is the kids growing up. They're what made this show special, otherwise it would have been another run of the mill scifi thing.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on January 03, 2018, 11:14:35 AM
Part of me wants to see the show move on from the kids being the focus and feels like it needs to grow outside of that for future seasons to be relevant.  But another part of me feels like seeing them grow up over four seasons is a reward unto itself and that the show should go that direction.  I think that is probably the best option.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on January 03, 2018, 12:38:38 PM
I've read that season 3 is most likely doing a time jump. All the kids and teens are older than they characters they portray, and they even had to dub Lucas' lines because at the end of the shooting process the kid had grown and his voice changed into a more mature tone.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 03, 2018, 12:55:52 PM
i started re-watching Season 1 with my two oldest sons. We're only (3) Episodes in but they are liking it a lot.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: axeman90210 on January 03, 2018, 10:11:12 PM
Finally got around to watching season two, which I very much enjoyed. Need a Steve and Dustin spinoff ASAP
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 09, 2018, 04:57:34 PM
Just binged Season 2. It took a couple episodes to get going, but overall I really enjoyed this season. Especially when Jane went badass punk. A force to be reckoned with.

Jane is an excellent character in my opinion and the reason why I like her is because she's not a Mary sue. She's isn't just immediately all powerful. Her powers start off weak and she has to practice them, and find ways to strengthen them. She goes through some heavy shit and overcomes adversity in believable ways and its cool how she's isn't nobody. She actually has a powerful backstory and her parental history actually makes for a stronger, more interesting and dynamic character. 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on February 09, 2018, 05:04:37 PM
Yeah, but Snoke
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: LCArenas on February 14, 2018, 03:20:54 PM
I've read that season 3 is most likely doing a time jump. All the kids and teens are older than they characters they portray, and they even had to dub Lucas' lines because at the end of the shooting process the kid had grown and his voice changed into a more mature tone.
This has to be adressed eventually. I mean, I don't watch much TV so I don't know how much it is done on shows but at the end of season 2 it's noticeable that they're past the age of the characters they're portraying. This shows up even more on the Steve/Nancy/Jonathan/Billy group. Nobody in High School looks that old :rollin
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: MirrorMask on February 15, 2018, 01:30:34 AM
Well, that has been the problem of mostly every movie ever. It's hard to come across so many young actors good enough, so they go for the older and more experienced ones.

That, coupled with cultural differences (being european I'm totally ignorant of how the american school system works and what are the counterparts of my system), makes me always at a complete loss to figure out which kind of school I'm watching and what I'm supposed to think of the age of the characters  :lol
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on March 08, 2018, 02:04:44 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/news/stranger-things-season-3-spoilers/

Despite what the link says, there aren't really spoilers.  It's just a "what we know so far" collection of facts.  I guess there are some "minor" spoilers, such as saying that a certain character and that character's group of friends are going to become more central.  Stuff like that.  But no details.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Samsara on March 13, 2018, 08:45:09 AM
http://www.tvguide.com/news/stranger-things-season-3-spoilers/

Despite what the link says, there aren't really spoilers.  It's just a "what we know so far" collection of facts.  I guess there are some "minor" spoilers, such as saying that a certain character and that character's group of friends are going to become more central.  Stuff like that.  But no details.

Thanks, bosk. Love the show, and hadn't really followed any chatter until clicking on this thread and link. Looking forward to season 3 next year!
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on July 16, 2018, 03:51:03 PM
Starcourt Mall!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyju7zFwyE
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 17, 2018, 11:23:53 AM
Starcourt Mall!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyju7zFwyE

Love it. Please tell me Scoops Ahoy was a real thing..
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on July 17, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
Starcourt Mall!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyju7zFwyE

Love it. Please tell me Scoops Ahoy was a real thing..

I never saw one out here on the West Coast.  But you can get shirts here:  https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/2898929-scoops-ahoy-visit-us-in-the-starcourt-mall?store_id=77092 
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: bosk1 on November 05, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
So...tomorrow is official Stranger Things Day, according to Netflix.  I wonder if that means we will get some announcements about S3.
Title: Re: Stranger Things
Post by: faizoff on November 05, 2018, 07:39:15 PM
Maybe it's about the video release of season 2?
https://www.target.com/p/stranger-things-season-2-blu-ray-dvd-digital/-/A-54140257