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Title: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The Aftermath
Post by: Evermind on February 09, 2016, 11:34:25 AM
Hello and welcome to the second edition of my roulette!

Some of you guys probably remember the first edition which took place roughly a year ago, and some of you reading that haven’t been around at that time, so here’s the link to that thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43194.0). It was a lot of fun (at least for me) even though some people who wanted to participate didn’t have time or took a break from posting on DTF. In the end, Brent (bl5150) won that one by half a point over RJ (lonestar) and now everyone has a chance to challenge him as he will defend his crown.

You know, a lot of people who ran their first roulette are seemingly not satisfied with the way they ran it, so they proceed to change the rules dramatically for v2, employing the different ranking systems, trying some other round structures and so on. Well, that’s not me. I look back at my first roulette and there aren’t a lot of stuff I’d run differently if I had to do it again. So the structure will be mainly the same, the number of players will stay the same, the rating system will stay the same. Some themes from the previous roulette will remain, some will change, and of course there will be some nuances here and there, so it’s still better if you thoroughly read this post.

I also wanted to let you know this will be my last roulette for a while – I don’t think I’ll run v3 any time soon, probably 2018 at best, or maybe even 2019. So if you want to play in my roulette, this is your best chance. :tup

And now, without further ado, let’s get to the rules:


Now with that out of the way, let’s get to my tastes and the banned list. First, check out my Top 50 albums list (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43039.msg1906635#msg1906635). I’d change a few albums in the 40-50 range now, but it’s still pretty much on point, so it’s a great reference to what kind of music I love.

My tastes didn’t change much from the first roulette. Progressive metal / rock, power / heavy metal, hard rock, these are still my favourite genres. There’s a good chance I’ll love something with a folk vibe. I prefer sad music to happy music, but it doesn’t mean I won’t enjoy a nice happy song if it’s done right. I usually don’t tolerate growls – but I think there are some albums where growls are perfectly placed, like The Human Equation. I’m not a fan of djent (but I’ve got to warn you guys our views on what’s djent and what’s not djent can differ completely :lol ), I’m not a big fan of electronic music though there are a few bands I do enjoy, I’m not into thrash metal, hip-hop and all that. It’s difficult to describe anything, so if you have any questions about my tastes or the bands in the banned list, just ask away in this thread.

That brings us to the banned list! I’ve changed the color for the bands I’m a huge fan of and I’ve bolded the bands I really like so you can get some perspective on my tastes too. The list will consist of a few parts.

1. The main banned list:

AC/DC
Accept
Adrenaline Mob
Aerosmith
After Forever
Aina
Alice Cooper
All Seeing Eyes
Allen/Lande
Alter Bridge
Amaranthe
Ambeon
Amethystium
Amorphis
Anathema
Angra
Anneke van Giersbergen
Anthriel
Anubis Gate
Arjen Anthony Lucassen
Ark
Armageddon
Astra
Astral Domine
Avantasia
Axel Rudi Pell
Ayreon
Beyond The Bridge
Big Big Train
Black Sabbath
Blackfield
Blackmore’s Night
Blind Guardian
Bloodbound
Bob Dylan
Borealis
Boston
Bruce Dickinson
Casualties of Cool
Cain’s Offering
Chronos Zero
Conception
Crystal Viper
David Bowie
David Gilmour
Dec Burke
Deep Purple
Delain
Demons and Wizards
Derek Sherinian
Destrage
Devin Townsend / Devin Townsend Project / The Devin Townsend Band
Diabulus in Musica
Dimension Act
Dio
Dire Straits
Dragonforce
Dream Theater
Echo Us
Echoes
Eden Circus
Edguy
Eluveitie
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Enchant
Ensiferum
Epica
Epysode
Evergrey
Fates Warning
Firewind
Fish
Flaming Row
Flying Colors
Gamma Ray
Gary Moore
Genesis
Green Carnation
Guilt Machine
Haken
HammerFall
Heaven and Hell
Helloween
Holy Shire
Ian Anderson
Intervals
IQ
Iron Maiden
Iron Savior
James LaBrie
Jethro Tull
Joan Baez
John Illsley
John Petrucci
Jon Lord
Jon Oliva’s Pain
Jordan Rudess
Jorn
Jørn Lande & Trond Holte
Judas Priest
Kaledon
Kamelot
Karnya
Katatonia
King Crimson
Kiske / Somerville
KISS
Lacuna Coil
Led Zeppelin
Level 10
Liquid Tension Experiment
Lunatic Soul
Magnum
Marillion
Mark Knopfler
Masterplan
Metallica
MindMaze
Moonspell
Mostly Autumn
Muse
Ne Obliviscaris
Neal Morse
Need
Nevermore
Nightwish
Opeth
Orden Ogan
OSI
Ozzy Osbourne
Pain of Salvation
Pink Floyd
Place Vendome
Porcupine Tree
Pretty Maids
Primal Fear
Psycrence
Queen
Queensryche
Rainbow
ReVamp
Ring of Fire
Riverside
Robert Wyatt
Roger Waters
Rolling Stones
Rush
Rustfield
Sabaton
Savatage
Saxon
Scorpions
Serious Black
Seventh Wonder
Shadow Gallery
Shattered Skies
Silent Force
Sonata Arctica
Spock’s Beard
Star One
Steve Hackett
Steven Wilson
Sting
Storm Corrosion
Stormwarrior
Strapping Young Lad
Stratovarius
Stream of Passion
Symphony X
Synaesthesia
System of a Down
Tarja Turunen
Tarot
Temperance
The Answer
The Beatles
The Doors
The Flower Kings
The Gathering
The Gentle Storm
The Who
Thought Chamber
Thoughts Factory
Timo Tolkki’s Avalon
Toehider
Tool
Transatlantic
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Triosphere
Tuomas Holopainen
Unisonic
Van Canto
Van Halen
Vanden Plas
Vanishing Point
Whitesnake
Wind Rose
Within Temptation
Yes
Yngwie Malmsteen

2. The “I’ve got this in my first roulette, checked out more from this band and liked / loved it” banned list:

Absolute Priority
Amadeus Awad / Amadeus Awad’s Eon
Árstíðir
Bodies of Water
Circle II Circle
Enbound
Galahad
Headspace
Hear N’ Aid
Ice Age
Journey
Karmakanic
Kingcrow
Last Tribe / Free Fall / anything from Magnus Karlsson
Lost in Thought
Mattador
Nightingale
Phideaux
Serenity
Speaking to Stones
Susanne Sundfor
Ten
Theocracy
Threshold
Tiles
Trail of Murder

3. The “I’ve got this in my first roulette, checked out more from this band and wasn’t too fond of / it was alright, but nothing special” banned list:

Angel Dust
Arena
Circus Maximus
Crystal Eyes
Damien Rice
David Gray
D.C. Cooper
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Dog Fashion Disco
Elvenking
Heavenly
Helker
Iced Earth
InnerShine
Lord
Lost Horizon
Mandroid Echostar
Mazzy Star
Mind’s Eye
Morifade
Pendragon
Pure Reason Revolution
RPWL
Silent Memorial
Steam Powered Giraffe
Swans
Thank You Scientist
The Aristocrats
The Tallest Man on Earth
Wishbone Ash
Wolverine

4. Bands banned during this roulette:

Redemption
Avenged Sevenfold
Arion
Brand New
Kansas
Marketa Irglova
Coheed and Cambria
Glass Mind

Pantommind
Dynazty
Myrath
Sufjan Stevens
Bent Knee
The Chronicles Project

My Soliloquy
Black Fate
Leverage
Sieges Even
Cloudscape
Vandroya
Beardfish
Beyond the Black
In the Silence
Odd Dimension
The Paralydium Project

W.A.S.P.
Dead Lord
The Mayan Factor
Midnight & Jon Oliva
Lee Abraham
The Smiths
Mechanical Poet
Slipknot
Dave Kerzner
Sylvan

Nocturnal Rites
Damnation Angels
Suspyre
Leprous
Triumph
Dream Evil
Odyssey
Thunderstone

Lyriel
Shooting Star
The Antlers
Yanni
The Tea Party
Telergy
Kompendium
Circle of Illusion
Shadow Circus
Apocalyptica

Edenbridge
The Dear Hunter
Teramaze
Subsignal
Vision Divine
UFO
The National
Prospekt
Consortium Project
Cans
Klone

Avatarium
Forgotten Tales
Tori Amos
Pandora's Box
Daughter
Floor Jansen and the Metropole Orchestra
Beautiful Sin
Fanticide
Jefferson Airplane
Seven Kingdoms

Day Six
Burnclear

Michael Kiske
Almanac
Sunburst
Mind Key
TesseracT
Neil Young

That’s it for the banned list. I’ve also got a list of bands I’ve received in my previous roulette. They aren’t banned because I didn’t like them enough to check out. Be careful if you’re going to send one of these:

Anton Johansson’s Galahad Suite
Biffy Clyro
Caligula’s Horse
Chelsea Wolfe
Damian Wilson
DJ Shadow
Echolyn
Evile
Falconer
Foo Fighters
For All We Know
Fun.
Hardline
Keldian
Killer Be Killed
Kishi Bashi
Kylie Minogue and Nick Cave
Mastodon
Oceansize
Pride of Lions
Scar Symmetry
Shineback
Sigur Ros
Soul Secret
Sound of Contact
Thirty Seconds to Mars
Throne of Chaos
Ulver
Virgin Steele
Xen

I’m sure I forgot some bands, so in case you send something I’m already familiar with, I’ll simply ask you to send something else. If you’re not sure about the band being eligible, you can ask me in the thread or in PM. Don’t forget I’m usually following all roulettes and sometimes listen to the songs getting great scores, so songs like Glen Hansard – Bird of Sorrow (which is apparently a new Kevin Gilbert – Song for a Dead Friend in terms of being a ballad and it’s getting perfect scores every time too) and a few others aren’t eligible.

Regarding the way to send the songs, I’d recommend sending them via PM, especially since I’ve got more space there now. I can give you my e-mail if needed. I prefer if you will send me the actual files (mp3, wav, flac, whatever). You can use any file hosting; I recommend using MEGA (https://mega.co.nz/) for it’s really simple and convenient to use. YouTube links are alright too. No Spotify – it’s not available in my country. If you can’t send any link to your song for some reason, just PM me the band name and the song name and I’ll find it myself.

Also, it would be nice if you provided both the band’s name and the song name every time you send me a song, so I don’t get it wrong when I’m posting the write-ups.

And I think that’s about it! Post in the thread if you’d like to participate; I’ll give you guys a few days to see this thread and decide, and then we’ll move on to Preliminary Round #1 listening.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 09, 2016, 11:34:39 AM
The scoreboard:

Big Hath - 69
TAC – 69
wolfking - 68.5
bl5150 - 67
lonestar - 63.5
senecadawg2 - 62.5

Bolsters - 49
Tomislav95 - 47.5
jingle.boy - 46.5
Train of Naught - 46.5
ErHaO - 45
Dr. DTVT – 44
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 09, 2016, 11:35:01 AM
Preliminary Round #1

Since we've got more contestants than free spots already, there will be preliminary rounds. Roughly, if there are less than eight participants, we'll try to settle this in one preliminary round, if there are more, it'll probably take me two rounds to decide.

These rounds are simple. All the contestants should send me a song, I listen to them a few times, rank them and decide who's going straight into the Round 1, who's going to the next preliminary round (if there will be more than one round, that is), and who is out. So if you send me a really amazing song, there's a chance you're in without any additional rounds or something. Think MasterChef or whatever. This means you should probably pick a strong song, because your participation in the roulette depends on it.

All the invited participants aren't required to send me their songs, but if any of you guys want to try and see what my tastes are like in action, you're welcome to send me something. I'll listen to it and rank it, but you have no influence on the competition here. Also, if I'll like your song enough, the artist will be banned, so be careful. If you don't want to send, you can always laugh and mock the contestants, so there's that. :lol

The length limit for these rounds is 10 minutes.



At this point, everyone is welcome to sign up to this roulette and join the battle in preliminary rounds. The deadline for signing up and sending the song for Preliminary Round #1 is Saturday evening in my time, which is about 96 hours from now on. I'm leaving this open for an extended period of time so everyone can see the thread and sign-up if they want.

Let the competition begin!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Crow on February 09, 2016, 11:41:39 AM
Following, but not participating, I'm ready for this disaster  :corn

Round 4 looks like a fun theme.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2016, 12:50:52 PM
Following.  Participating.  Kicking everyone's ass.

You're all playing for second place, bitches.

:bringiton:

Will read the OP dissertation later.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Train of Naught on February 09, 2016, 12:52:38 PM
Consider that 9th spot mine, sent  :metal
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tyrias on February 09, 2016, 01:03:22 PM
I think I'll try my luck in the preliminary rounds, but send something that I love but is totally out of your comfort zone. Maybe it will even be something from the "things I didn't like in my last roulette"-list. Then I'll leave it up to fate if I go on.

Also, I feel like this:
Quote
I’m not a fan of djent (but I’ve got to warn you guys our views on what’s djent and what’s not djent can differ completely :lol ),
was totally posted because of that Biffy Clyro song I sent you last roulette  :lol. (and no, it's still not djent, whatever you may think)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Train of Naught on February 09, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
(maybe it will even be something from the "things I didn't like in my last roulette"-list. Then I'll leave it up to fate if I'll go on.
I sent something off that list aswell, totally worth the risk.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tyrias on February 09, 2016, 01:21:50 PM
Currently deciding between post-rock, alternative rock and orchestral dubstep. I'll not be surprised if I don't make it past this round.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 09, 2016, 01:24:00 PM
I think I'll try my luck in the preliminary rounds, but send something that I love but is totally out of your comfort zone. Maybe it will even be something from the "things I didn't like in my last roulette"-list. Then I'll leave it up to fate if I go on.

Sure thing, go ahead! I mean, you've introduced me to Susanne Sundfor, so I'm glad you decided to try!

Currently deciding between post-rock, alternative rock and orchestral dubstep. I'll not be surprised if I don't make it past this round.

Or, well, maybe not. :lol

Speaking of that, I have no idea how I get such the high scores from you in the Championship Roulette. We are so not a match.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tyrias on February 09, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
Well, both the alternative rock song and the post rock song are bands you got in your last roulette, but I felt that in each case you got the worst song of the respective album. I'll probably save the orchestral dubstep song for if I make it (it's a lot more orchestral and choir than dubsteo though, and it even has some electric guitars. I know I can't send you something that just has the dubwub)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 01:44:05 PM
Let's get it on!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tyrias on February 09, 2016, 01:48:56 PM
And sent. I ended up not taking that big of a risk after all, at least I hope so :lol.

And actually, I really hope I'll make it. I think I have some really cool stuff to send you that's quite out of your comfort zone but I think you'll enjoy quite a bit nonetheless. And I want to remedy some mistakes (*ahem* first round *ahem*) because I think you'll probably enjoy a lot of the band's output, even if you hated that particular song.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: splent on February 09, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
The only risk I'm taking is that it's one of my favorite songs, and I won't be able to use the band later... but I guess that may be a good thing because it blocks more.

Sending in a minute, and since I'm at work I'm sending Youtube (hope you don't mind)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2016, 02:15:23 PM
I don't like feeling like an idiot at the end of a roulette where I have sent some of the host's favourite songs in scoreless qualifiers...........so for now , I will mock and laugh ;D

Gawd - just noticed violin/woodwind/brass :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: splent on February 09, 2016, 02:17:31 PM
I will laugh and mock thanks -learned my lesson in jingle's about sending a couple of my best songs in qualifiers  ;D

:lol Yeah I know, but it has to do with what's on and not on his banned list and themes and the like. I just want to make it, and maybe it'll be good enough where I can jump straight to round 1.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 02:19:51 PM
Yeah, I try and not send too many favs early on either.  Leaves no room to move.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: splent on February 09, 2016, 02:26:02 PM
Yeah, I try and not send too many favs early on either.  Leaves no room to move.

Yep. I hear you.

This is the only favorite I'll be sending early. I can't send a favorite if I'm a)not in round 1 and b)if the band is banned (I'm seriously afraid that another player will use the band I'm sending before I get a chance to... maybe I'm just paranoid, I don't know).
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Luoto on February 09, 2016, 02:33:31 PM
Following and participating. Should be fun!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 02:35:38 PM
Yeah, I try and not send too many favs early on either.  Leaves no room to move.

Yep. I hear you.

This is the only favorite I'll be sending early. I can't send a favorite if I'm a)not in round 1 and b)if the band is banned (I'm seriously afraid that another player will use the band I'm sending before I get a chance to... maybe I'm just paranoid, I don't know).

That would be extremely bad luck, but it's happened to me once before too.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
Laughing and mocking J Boy.





Oh wait, I'm supposed to be laughing and  mocking the prelim participants? Oh. I must have misread that. ;D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Scorpion on February 09, 2016, 03:11:27 PM
Sent the qualifier.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
Phew............just remembered that Steel Panther's latest single has violins  :metal
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 03:49:45 PM
Hmmm......I remember now that you banned anything Magnus Karlsson related Ruslan.......that's like a quarter of my collection.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 09, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
Entering, but probably won't last through the qualifiers. Sending soon, if that's ok with you.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2016, 03:53:32 PM
Hmmm......I remember now that you banned anything Magnus Karlsson related Ruslan.......that's like a quarter of my collection.

He doesn't like growls either.............there goes another 70%  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 03:56:11 PM
Hmmm......I remember now that you banned anything Magnus Karlsson related Ruslan.......that's like a quarter of my collection.

He doesn't like growls either.............there goes the other 70%  :lol

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Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2016, 04:21:07 PM
Did I miss what the distinction for bold vs green bold is?  Do you sarcastically like what's in green?   :biggrin:

Laughing and mocking J Boy.

Mock away my good friend.  You'll get yours soon enough.

Also, dubstep and any genre requiring the word "post" or "core" to describe it has no place in this roulette.

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Now... who should I cock rock-block?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2016, 04:24:38 PM
Phew............just remembered that Steel Panther's latest single has violins  :metal

I already know what I'm sending for that round.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2016, 04:28:34 PM
So Kiske has sung with an orchestra has he?  Checking.......... ;D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
 :lol

I get horn-y everytime I hear him sing.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2016, 04:32:21 PM
 :rollin

And wood(wind)  ;D  As the years pass it might be more the wind.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Bolsters on February 09, 2016, 07:57:40 PM
Sent the qualifier.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Crow on February 09, 2016, 08:06:56 PM
if wolfking is a fan of the growls then i might just have a decent chance in his roulette  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 08:08:14 PM
if wolfking is a fan of the growls then i might just have a decent chance in his roulette  :lol

I'll keep that in mind.  You might get a call up.  :tup

I just noticed the theme for round 4, don't know what the hell I'm gonna do there.  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2016, 08:12:39 PM
Oh Gezuz!  Sack up boys. It's still a few weeks away - Lots of time to sift thru 15,000+ songs to find one if the 20 or so that has actual orchestra instrumentation.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Sacul on February 09, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Sent the qualifier.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Train of Naught on February 09, 2016, 08:15:40 PM
I blew my perfect song for that theme on this preliminary round.. But I do have some more cool shit that fits the bill if I even make it that far.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Oh Gezuz!  Sack up boys. It's still a few weeks away - Lots of time to sift thru 15,000+ songs to find one if the 20 or so that has actual orchestra instrumentation.  :biggrin:

Only 15000? hahaha
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Bolsters on February 09, 2016, 08:29:33 PM
With the violin theme: Does it count if the violin is part of a symphony, or does it need to be a solo instrument?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 08:45:56 PM
With the violin theme: Does it count if the violin is part of a symphony, or does it need to be a solo instrument?

And does it have to be a main instrument throughout the song or can it just be a single section?

Oh, and in relation to the theme of the round........um, why?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: lonestar on February 09, 2016, 09:35:42 PM
OK, I gotta take a different approach to this shit if I'm ever gonna win another roulette. Seems my old standards are running dry, and with 500 artists in my library, I know I got some surprises hidden, just got to dig a bit. So....for this roulette I will try to send bands I've never sent before. Now, off to see what I got hidden.......
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 09, 2016, 09:47:01 PM
Looking forward to this. Back in your first roulette, I sent a lot of things that didn't make much sense for your tastes. This time I'm going to be much more focused, even if not as varied.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 10:06:53 PM
OK, I gotta take a different approach to this shit if I'm ever gonna win another roulette. Seems my old standards are running dry, and with 500 artists in my library, I know I got some surprises hidden, just got to dig a bit. So....for this roulette I will try to send bands I've never sent before. Now, off to see what I got hidden.......

That's pretty much what Brent's roulette forced me to do, and it paid off and I surprised myself with the amount of gems I was able to come up with.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 09, 2016, 10:53:30 PM
With the violin theme: Does it count if the violin is part of a symphony, or does it need to be a solo instrument?

And does it have to be a main instrument throughout the song or can it just be a single section?

Oh, and in relation to the theme of the round........um, why?

I can't answer to all posts right now since I'm at work and it's annoying to type huge messages on my phone, but regarding this:

It can be either part of the symphony or a solo instrument - I prefer the latter. It can be in the whole song or a single section. Good example of what I want is Another Day by DT or Your Latest Trick by Dire Straits. But I don't want to be too restrictive with this theme, so anything will do. The only requirement it should be an actual instrument, and not, say, orchestral samples played on keyboard.

As to why, well, I wanted to have one difficult theme just like I did in previous roulette, and I like those instruments, so what the hell. However,  invited participants can find some salvation in the .doc file I linked in the PM with the invitation.

Glad to have you all aboard guys. I'll answer all questions when I get back from work. Great to see some trash talk up already. :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 10:56:13 PM
Sweet as bro.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Big Hath on February 09, 2016, 11:27:33 PM
too late for me to jump aboard this train?

If not, I won't be able to send anything until tomorrow night (US) at the earliest.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 10, 2016, 12:06:41 AM
Everyone can join until Saturday evening, so no, not too late at all!

I'll update the list of contestants on a lunch break.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 10, 2016, 01:53:25 AM
May I join?  :D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 10, 2016, 02:05:56 AM
^Read the post above you :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 10, 2016, 02:12:30 AM
^Read the post above you :lol
Oh, that was just two hours ago so probably nothing changed :lol
I'm thinking about sending one of my favorite songs just to pass preliminary round but I'd like to save it for later hmm :justjen
EDIT: Evermind, it's great to see someone love Mark Knopfler as much as I do :)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 10, 2016, 04:01:31 AM
:lol

Edited the second post. We've got ten contestants already, so it's definitely going to be two preliminary rounds. This shouldn't hold the things up much because there are only 8 main rounds, so 10 rounds overall seems reasonable.

Now, with such a competition in the qualifiers I recommend you guys to send some really great songs. 10 people for four spots, just "good" may turn out to be not enough.

^Read the post above you :lol
Oh, that was just two hours ago so probably nothing changed :lol
I'm thinking about sending one of my favorite songs just to pass preliminary round but I'd like to save it for later hmm :justjen
EDIT: Evermind, it's great to see someone love Mark Knopfler as much as I do :)

:tup
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Train of Naught on February 10, 2016, 04:04:27 AM
So how's it going down? Like, the best 1 or 2 songs are in and the others still have to do another round to qualify? Or does it depend entirely on the songs (in which case, if 4 songs are THAT much better than the others what will you do?)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 10, 2016, 04:09:43 AM
Sent :)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:13:36 AM
I like the preliminary round idea thing, but really, that's a massive disadvantage for as already locked in.  A lot of bands going to get cock blocked before we even start.  Good challenge really, I don't mind, just an observation.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 10, 2016, 04:16:05 AM
I doubt I will cockblock a lot to be honest, but yeah, I see what you mean. That said, it's just as much a disadvantage to the people in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:21:33 AM
I doubt I will cockblock a lot to be honest, but yeah, I see what you mean. That said, it's just as much a disadvantage to the people in the qualifiers.

Yeah, once round 1 commences, everyone's in the same boat I guess, just a few extra bands off the list.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Bolsters on February 10, 2016, 04:24:06 AM
Plus nothing we send gets scored here...so we're cockblocking ourselves with these submissions as much as we are anyone else. :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tyrias on February 10, 2016, 04:25:57 AM
I doubt I will cockblock a lot to be honest, but yeah, I see what you mean. That said, it's just as much a disadvantage to the people in the qualifiers.

Same for me, but I actually think it's more of a disadvantage for people in the qualifiers. Everyone has their "own" top roulette songs, and the people in the qualifiers basically have to send 2 songs out of these in order to even make the competition. For the others, there's still a chance they'll get cockblocked, but it's just a possibility, not guaranteed.

Speaking of that, I have no idea how I get such the high scores from you in the Championship Roulette. We are so not a match.

I don't think we're that far apart, actually. My tastes just seem to be a bit broader than yours, but there's actually a lot of overlap between you favourite bands and mine. Nightwish, Kamelot, Dream Theater, Steven Wilson, Pink Floyd... all bands that used to be my favourite bands during some parts of my life. I just chose not to delve too far into those genres and tried out something different instead. But it's not like I don't enjoy a good Power Metal / Prog Rock / Hard Rock song.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 10, 2016, 04:35:03 AM
I think the intived players have the cockblocking advantage, because they can actually send something for preliminary rounds too. For example, if Kade is sure Tim is going to send Winger,  he can send it here just for the sake of blocking him. Granted, it's a dick move, but it's a valid strategy.

About how prelims will go, I can't say until I've heard the songs. In the unlikely turn of events that four songs will be great and the others will majorly suck, yes, it's possible second round won't be needed. I doubt it'll happen though.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:38:31 AM
I think the intived players have the cockblocking advantage, because they can actually send something for preliminary rounds too. For example, if Kade is sure Tim is going to send Winger,  he can send it here just for the sake of blocking him. Granted, it's a dick move, but it's a valid strategy.

About how prelims will go, I can't say until I've heard the songs. In the unlikely turn of events that four songs will be great and the others will majorly suck, yes, it's possible second round won't be needed. I doubt it'll happen though.

I don't think I'd be putting much money on that one.  :rollin

I don't see any advantage of myself sending a song in these prelims at all really to be honest.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 10, 2016, 04:43:20 AM
You can block someone's favourite artist (if I like the song enough) you wouldn't ever send in the main round.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 10, 2016, 04:45:16 AM
I was just looking at songs to send and that banned artists list will screw me up big-time. If I even make it past the prelims, this roulette will be interesting for sure.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:48:34 AM
You can block someone's favourite artist (if I like the song enough) you wouldn't ever send in the main round.

I'm a dick, but I don't think I'm that much of a dick.  Some of the other guys though...hmmm..... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 10, 2016, 04:50:04 AM
5
I was just looking at songs to send and that banned artists list will screw me up big-time.

Here's when Chad should appear and tell you to suck it up or something. :lol

I think he mentioned having to choose between 56 bands or so.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:52:02 AM
5
I was just looking at songs to send and that banned artists list will screw me up big-time.

Here's when Chad should appear and tell you to suck it up or something. :lol

I think he mentioned having to choose between 56 bands or so.

Great call.  :rollin  Put your big boy pants on Elite haha.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 10, 2016, 05:42:11 AM
Alright, alright..

I just made a playlist of possible bands/artists to send and I do indeed have quite a lot. I better make it through the qualifiers first though, so this will probably be a gamble: send a strong song right now, or keep my stronger songs for the actual roulette and hope the other prelim people screw up?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2016, 06:19:24 AM
You can block someone's favourite artist (if I like the song enough) you wouldn't ever send in the main round.

I'm a dick, but I don't think I'm that much of a dick.  Some of the other guys though...hmmm..... ;) ;D

Present and accounted for.   :biggrin:

I always get a chuckle when people think they don't have much to chose from.  Unless one only has 100 or less artists, surely there are 10-15 songs in anyone's library that could appeal to any organizer??  Might be easy for me to say, since I've got 1500 or so artists in my iTunes library alone, and another couple hundred saved on Spotify.

And yes, my list was 56 deep before I even saw the banned list.  Had to scratch 4-5 off once the banned list was published - and that doesn't even include what I have on Spotify.  I'll save those bands for Kade.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: ErHaO on February 10, 2016, 06:29:19 AM
Oh man, with two preliminary rounds I definitely fear for my to-send list. Last time I was cockblocked twice  :angry: :sadpanda:

This time I'll make sure I have several options open for each round though, instead of having to go back to the drawing board because of people with good taste.

Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 10, 2016, 06:31:55 AM
I probably cockblocked some of you with song I sent :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Sweet as bro.

I wasn't aware that a bro could be sweet.


:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 10, 2016, 10:13:32 AM
Hmmm......I remember now that you banned anything Magnus Karlsson related Ruslan.......that's like a quarter of my collection.

He doesn't like growls either.............there goes the other 70%  :lol

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/52912845.jpg)

I've set my phone not to display the pics when I browse forums, so I saw this only now. :lol

Anyway, I've sorted through all my PMs now, answered the questions and accepted / rejected all the songs. One participant had to resent, others are fine. If your nickname is italicized in the second post, you're fine, your song is in and you can just wait for the results.

Chad, I don't know if it was sarcastic, but green bolded artists are the ones I currently love the most (some of them may change over the years but most are there to stay), and the simply bolded artists are the ones that I love too, but not as much as the coloured ones. :lol Just thought I should make some distinction since while I love Star One, I don't love it as much as Ayreon.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2016, 01:23:25 PM
Chad, I don't know if it was sarcastic, but green bolded artists are the ones I currently love the most (some of them may change over the years but most are there to stay), and the simply bolded artists are the ones that I love too, but not as much as the coloured ones. :lol Just thought I should make some distinction since while I love Star One, I don't love it as much as Ayreon.

I figured as much, but yust wanted to leave no misunderstanding out there.

Just thought I should make some distinction since while I love Star One, I don't love it as much as Ayreon.

(https://replygif.net/i/478.gif)

jk... it's a toss up.  Ayreon has higher highs, but lower lows.  Star One only has a couple of duds.  I'd rank Ayreon>Star One, but only marginally.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2016, 01:25:08 PM
and I think I know who I'm gonna rock-block.  No sense in trying to make it Brent - it would take at least a dozen of us to block him, and even then I think his inventory is like Mary Poppins' bag.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 10:45:25 PM
Probably should start working on this.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2016, 05:37:37 AM
In like Flynn.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 11, 2016, 06:11:31 AM
Sent like Brent. (or not?)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Bolsters on February 11, 2016, 06:12:36 AM
and I think I know who I'm gonna rock-block.
Probably me.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 10:05:39 AM
Alright, so all non-invited participants are in, and while the deadline to sign up for playing is until Saturday evening, I'm starting my first listen right now. If someone else will sign up in the remaining few days, I'll ensure their song gets the same amount of listens, but I decided to start listening now so we won't have those huge delays between rounds. Some invited participants have also decided to send their songs.

I know the "first impressions / tidbits" part have become quite popular in the recent roulettes, and it may be getting a little stale, but since I like to think it was me who employed it a year ago first in a long time I'm going to do these in this roulette too. However, I'm going to post only a few ones instead of one for each song and I'll try to make them as juicy as possible.

Anyway, before I even start the first listen, here are some fun facts about this round for you:

Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Elite on February 11, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
  • Two players sent the same song, were asked to resend because I've already heard that one, so they did and once again they've sent the same song.

This much coincidence does not exist :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 10:13:55 AM
  • Two players sent the same song, were asked to resend because I've already heard that one, so they did and once again they've sent the same song.

This much coincidence does not exist :lol

Well, all songs are from the same band, so maybe those are just the best two songs this band has.

I'm also going to put some lyrics from the songs I've received in the current round in the title. If you know the lyric line, you might be able to guess what some people have sent. (If you Google it, you suck. :lol ) Of course, when I post the results, the title will reflect that quite clearly.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 10:15:14 AM
i'm really curious to see who sent the songs and what band now  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 10:53:33 AM
So two people sent Song for a Dead Friend? :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 10:59:49 AM
So two people sent Song for a Dead Friend? :P

That's so previous roulette, dude.

Bird of Sorrow is the new trend.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
Bird of Sorrow started being a thing in my roulette, I believe, I feel special  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 11:03:46 AM
It's a fantastic song so I can't blame it  :tup
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 11:42:42 AM
So I just went through the first listen, and, well, some songs are surely the growers and everything can change in the next few days, but for now...

One person has nothing to worry about at all, fantastic song, grabbed me from the first listen and he's almost certainly in, straight to the main competition too. I enjoyed that song a lot and I can see it growing on me even more on the subsequent listens. I don't think this will change, it seems just the type of song I love, with all the right vocals and instruments.

Overall, it's a fantastic round so far. I like all the songs, and most of them I like a lot, and even the ones that didn't much clicked with me on the first listen are promising. I think, besides the obvious stand-out - and don't forget these are my first impressions only - there are four songs I loved that can turn to a free pass to the main competition too. I think it's safe to say you guys blew it out of the park.

I think there were no real duds this round, I liked every song more or less. Very strong entries from all of you guys, and let's see what grows on me and what doesn't. I'll fire up the tidbits Saturday evening when the deadline ends, and I'm hoping to listen a few more times to your songs until then. Just remember, there are ten people hoping to get four free spots. I've got to eliminate some of you. Be prepared for that. :P

However, if you still haven't signed up and want to try your luck in this roulette, it's still not too late. I'll accept the sign-ups and the songs for the first preliminary round till Saturday evening (~45 hours from now on).
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 11, 2016, 11:50:56 AM
Bird of Sorrow is the new trend.

Yeah, though now it's been overused. I had my fun for around four or five roulettes but I'm never sending it again.

It was the same with Song for a Dead Friend. I got that one in my first roulette and wanted to share it with everyone. But after scoring really high with the same song a few times, it lost its appeal. If roulettes are all about introducing new stuff, it doesn't make so much sense to keep submitting the same song once it's already established a reputation.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 11:53:42 AM
Bird of Sorrow is the new trend.

Yeah, though now it's been overused. I had my fun for around four or five roulettes but I'm never sending it again.

It was the same with Song for a Dead Friend. I got that one in my first roulette and wanted to share it with everyone. But after scoring really high with the same song a few times, it lost its appeal. If roulettes are all about introducing new stuff, it doesn't make so much sense to keep submitting the same song once it's already established a reputation.

Well, I keep sending my trademark songs even after they get a high score after a few times. Thankfully no one else sends those, so why the hell not. I mean, it's still a new stuff for the host.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Train of Naught on February 11, 2016, 11:59:47 AM
I'm willing to send the same song if I think the person will like it, but pretty much none of my trademark roulette stuff is Evermind material so I'm probably mixing it up this time IF I get in.

Regardless, it seems likely you at least liked what you heard so far and that seems like an accomplishment to me with a band like this already, no regrets.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 12:05:34 PM
Unless is banned, I'm gonna keep sending Where is Now? on basically every roulette I play in  :metal
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 12:08:13 PM
Unless is banned, I'm gonna keep sending Where is Now? on basically every roulette I play in  :metal

Yeah, well, thankfully it's banned here!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 12:09:36 PM
i'm half tempted to send something in for the preliminaries now so there can be at least one dud  :corn
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
i'm half tempted to send something in for the preliminaries now so there can be at least one dud  :corn

Well there's no harm in it, is there?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 12:13:19 PM
I'd send him some Converge :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 12:14:57 PM
i think part of it is the vast majority of stuff i'd want to send qualifies under "evermind would probably hate this"
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Scorpion on February 11, 2016, 12:16:27 PM
What are you talking about, I'm sure that Evermind would love Converge.





















:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Elite on February 11, 2016, 12:18:52 PM
What do you mean? I already sent Converge.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Big Hath on February 11, 2016, 12:23:48 PM
ditto, that must have been the same song
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 12:32:21 PM
Even my short write-up included that.

Quote
Overall, it's a fantastic round so far. I like all the songs, and most of them I like a lot, and even the ones that didn't much clicked with me on the first listen are promising, I love how they all converge. I think, besides the obvious stand-out - and don't forget these are my first impressions only - there are four songs I loved that can turn to a free pass to the main competition too. I think it's safe to say you guys blew it out of the park.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 12:37:26 PM
I love how they all converge.
Whoa, everyone sent Converge?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 12:40:18 PM
I love how they all converge.
Whoa, everyone sent Converge?

No, I've got a lot of good music. I would've noticed.

What kind of band is Converge, anyway? Shoecore-mathgaze-dubstep-samplefronted-growly hiphop?

(I might have got some of those genres wrong.)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
mathcore. you'd absolutely hate them.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
Try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38m1NXeQP4E
Hope the link works.

Such a beautiful ballad :heart

Edit: what kind of stupid genre name is mathcore anyway?  Sounds like a calculus-lovers club
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 12:53:06 PM
i don't name the genres, i just repeat names others have given them

i think it's suppose to related to the overly technical nature of the music tho, also bcuz it's heavy as hell
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 01:00:01 PM
Anyway, I don't see how anyone could not love that beautiful melodic singing, simple yet technical riffing, breathtakingly beautiful guitar solos and drumming that subtly accentuates all the superb melodies.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 01:00:46 PM
now you're just being sadistic  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 01:04:36 PM
I actually enjoy converge for a few songs, but I've never managed to listen to an entire album of theirs without getting a headache :metal :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 01:06:58 PM
i tried listening to jane doe once, only got like 10 minutes in, then gave it another shot later and made it all the way through

but, i'm not going to be revisiting it.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Train of Naught on February 11, 2016, 01:22:17 PM
Anyway, I don't see how anyone could not love that beautiful melodic singing, simple yet technical riffing, breathtakingly beautiful guitar solos and drumming that subtly accentuates all the superb melodies.
Man you're just not br00tal enough, this is gr8. I especially love the vocal delivery of the line "For I felt the greatest of winters coming", it's beautiful.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 01:28:29 PM
CONCUBIIIIINEEE

gets me everytim :'(
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 01:37:38 PM
I've been listening to their newest album just now though,  and the vocals are actually a lot better than on Jane Doe. And I quite liked it.

(I know I'm not true kvlt and br00tal enough to love Jane Doe though. Even though it's a lot less bad than I remember it being. Now if only tje vocals didn’t sound like they were recorded through a cellphone mic and than clipped to add even more distortion)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Elite on February 11, 2016, 02:09:34 PM
Come on, Jane Doe is awesome, though I must admit I have to be in the right mood for it. If you're not, then it is indeed a chore to get through it.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 11, 2016, 02:36:50 PM
Jane Doe can be hit or miss. I actually can remember I got headache from listening to it. Not that's bad but I was tired and wasn't in the mood for it.
So, I passed this round :corn
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 02:43:22 PM
lol at the Converge talk.  Even they are a bit much for me.  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 02:52:04 PM
Come on, Jane Doe is awesome, though I must admit I have to be in the right mood for it. If you're not, then it is indeed a chore to get through it.
Indeed. I need to be kind of angry or pissed off to really appreciate it, but when I do, I have a blast :2metal:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Train of Naught on February 11, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
Aight, I'll give it a spin after Sacul's round 6 results then  :loser:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 02:56:51 PM
This is kind of becoming the new Converge thread, Evermind, you should rename the thread to represent the topic more accurately :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
Converge for Ruslan is becoming Tim's Winger.  :rollin
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
What thread am I in?  What is this talk of genre's of music with "core" in the name?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Sacul on February 11, 2016, 03:00:56 PM
This is the unofficial Converge thread  :smiley:

I hope they release a new album, it's been like 4 years since the last one.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 03:01:16 PM
What thread am I in?  What is this talk of genre's of music with "core" in the name?

You should check out Converge.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Big Hath on February 11, 2016, 03:03:01 PM
I don't think his finger will click fast enough on the stop/pause button
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Train of Naught on February 11, 2016, 03:03:27 PM
So how about a themed round where we all send something of a genre with 'glam' in it?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 03:05:36 PM
the second annual Winger Round
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: splent on February 11, 2016, 03:09:27 PM
 Has anyone done a worst song ever around and judged based on how awful it was?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 03:11:27 PM
I don't think I have anything that's even remotely close to being "glam". :lol

I love how they all converge.
Whoa, everyone sent Converge?

No, I've got a lot of good music. I would've noticed.

What kind of band is Converge, anyway? Shoecore-mathgaze-dubstep-samplefronted-growly hiphop?

(I might have got some of those genres wrong.)

We shoulf have a round of all the people who don't make it and try to come up with a song that fits in as many genres as possible from the quote above. :metal

And that worst song ever sounds like a perfect idea for a bonus round. Might keep that in the back of my head for my non-championship roulette
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Train of Naught on February 11, 2016, 03:15:07 PM
So, Celldweller ft. Foreign Beggars and Converge?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 11, 2016, 03:22:34 PM
So, Celldweller ft. Foreign Beggars and Converge?

I only know Converge there  ::)

On a side note, Coral Blue by Converge is oddly beautiful and haunting. And there's even some almost-normal singing.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
What thread am I in?  What is this talk of genre's of music with "core" in the name?

You should check out Converge.

(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/the-house-of-anubis/images/7/7f/82716-haha-fuck-you-gif-ken-jeong-ha-ZX5z.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140213170150)

I was not born yesterday
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 11, 2016, 06:14:32 PM
Can we send our round 1 songs in if we are invited?

Screw it, I'm going to anyway before I forget.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2016, 06:19:20 PM
Converge for Ruslan is becoming Tim's Winger.  :rollin
:lol

Meaning they must suck? WTF is Converge?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2016, 06:33:07 PM
From what I am reading Tim I think I am happy to remain a Convergin.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Big Hath on February 11, 2016, 07:01:56 PM
Converge is all that was, all that is, and all that will be
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 11, 2016, 09:47:08 PM
Can we send our round 1 songs in if we are invited?

Screw it, I'm going to anyway before I forget.

Um, so, was your song meant for preliminary round 1 or actual main competition round 1? :P

What the hell happened to this thread? Anyway, I think I'll check out some Converge just for fun. Not sure if I will be able to get past the first minute though.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 11, 2016, 09:47:50 PM
you probably won't, no
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2016, 10:00:10 PM

What the hell happened to this thread?

You knew who you were inviting sir  ;D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 10:12:59 PM
Anyway, I think I'll check out some Converge just for fun. Not sure if I will be able to get past the first minute though.

10 seconds, max, probably less.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Big Hath on February 11, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
it's like name that tune.

"Evermind will close that browser window in 3 seconds"
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tyrias on February 12, 2016, 12:31:03 AM
Please don't say it's djent :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Elite on February 12, 2016, 01:00:18 AM
Has anyone done a worst song ever around and judged based on how awful it was?

I did this in my first roulette for the hell of it and I found it very funny. Though the actual theme was 'make me laugh', but that generally resulted in people demding very bad stuff.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 02:32:27 AM
Please don't say it's djent :P

I wouldn't count on it if I were you. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 12, 2016, 04:54:53 AM

Um, so, was your song meant for preliminary round 1 or actual main competition round 1? :P


Round 1.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2016, 05:11:35 AM
Has anyone done a worst song ever around and judged based on how awful it was?

Mod-Rich did.


What the hell happened to this thread?

You knew who you were inviting sir  ;D

:spitcoffee:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 07:06:12 AM

Um, so, was your song meant for preliminary round 1 or actual main competition round 1? :P


Round 1.

It's genius to answer the question "This round 1 or that round 1?" with "Round 1." :lolpalm:

Alright, I'm going to assume you meant the latter.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2016, 07:49:27 AM
I think since he's technically through the "preliminary" round, he means actual round 1.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 08:34:12 AM
I guess so, just found it funny.

Anyway, I'm off to do a few more listens. I will be away for the most part of Saturday, but I should be back that evening and I'll post tidbits then. Results are likely to be posted Sunday evening, or in a worst case scenario, Tuesday. Won't be able to post them on Monday since I've got Steven Wilson's show to attend.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 11:23:36 AM
After a well-thought theatrical few days long pause, Parama sweeps in and sends his song for the preliminary round #1 too. Now we've got eleven contestants!

Does anyone want to bet he makes it past this round?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Crow on February 12, 2016, 11:25:37 AM
it's more like "wow i have no clue what to send Evermind" and then "oh yeah i guess this would probably be a decent shot, except it has 20 seconds of growls" and then "ehh whatever i'm going to get eliminated anyways" more than "long theatrical pause"  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 11:29:11 AM
You've got to admit that "after a long well-thought theatrical pause Parama sweeps in" sounds more dramatic than "fuck I don't know what to send, oh, hello growls, suck it Evermind, take this".
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 12, 2016, 11:29:46 AM
-1point for every second of growls :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 11:31:19 AM
I do enjoy the growls if they're done right, The Human Equation is a perfect example of that. I might even ignore growls if the song itself is fantastic, Light of Day, Day of Darkness is the perfect example of that.

But this is a rare thing indeed.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Train of Naught on February 12, 2016, 11:49:10 AM
Haken - Streams

Awesome song, but it had more than 10 seconds of death growls, fuck you.

0/10
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2016, 11:50:35 AM
I do enjoy the growls if they're done right, The Human Equation is a perfect example of that. I might even ignore growls if the song itself is fantastic, Light of Day, Day of Darkness is the perfect example of that.

But this is a rare thing indeed.

Rage of Despair (Flaming Row/Elinoire) is the song that helped me tolerate growls that are in moderation, and fit the overall theme of (or moment in) the song.

Also, was just re-reviewing the banned list, and you get a big-ass :wtf: on "it was alright, but nothing special” banned list" for the following:

Circus Maximums
Lord
Innershine
Mind's Eye
Pendragon
Silent Memorial
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 11:55:14 AM
Haken is a weird one for me. I like some songs and then I completely can't stand the others.

Chad, regarding those bands:

Everything except Mind's Eye was indeed nothing special. I admit I didn't check out Mind's Eye yet but I didn't want to receive it yet again so I lumped it in this list. Circus Maximus was probably the biggest disappointment among those - I couldn't find anything to latch on.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Could be a matter of inflated expectations?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2016, 01:17:39 PM

Also, was just re-reviewing the banned list, and you get a big-ass :wtf: on "it was alright, but nothing special” banned list" for the following:

Circus Maximums
Lord
Innershine
Mind's Eye
Pendragon
Silent Memorial

I was surprised to see Lost Horizon on that list. They were the first band I thought of when I saw the initial banned list. I figured they'd be right up Ruslan's alley.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A fantastic way to kill some time
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2016, 04:32:14 PM
I do enjoy the growls if they're done right, The Human Equation is a perfect example of that. I might even ignore growls if the song itself is fantastic, Light of Day, Day of Darkness is the perfect example of that.

But this is a rare thing indeed.

Come on man, 30 seconds of growls in a full 60 minutes of music hardly counts.  :lol

And yeah, Lost Horizon are incredible.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: splent on February 12, 2016, 05:39:21 PM
We have an OP title change... Does that mean :soon:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Crow on February 12, 2016, 05:41:30 PM
the title changed about 5 hours ago  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: lonestar on February 12, 2016, 06:25:15 PM
Could be a matter of inflated expectations?

I would honestly say that Circus was a grower band. It took me a good five or so spins before Nine got beyond 'meh' range for me. Now I frikkin dig the album.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
I'll keep trying then. I'll be sure to give another chance to Lost Horizon too.

We have an OP title change... Does that mean :soon:

Actually, no, I've changed it on a whim. :lol Still, expect some small tidbits this evening and the results tomorrow evening.

Anyone who still wants to sign up - not that I don't have enough participants already - is welcome to do it. You have until I post the tidbits, then the sign ups will be closed.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 12:57:04 AM
out of curiosity i googled some of the thread surnames

i disagree with the pick from [REDACTED] but it's still a great song
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 13, 2016, 03:55:47 AM
I know what title change means :corn
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: 425 on February 13, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
Sent something on a whim. Don't know what I'll send next if I actually qualify, but thought I should give it a shot, given how much of my current and likely upcoming music rotation is Evermindian in origin.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 10:58:07 AM
out of curiosity i googled some of the thread surnames

I'm also going to put some lyrics from the songs I've received in the current round in the title. If you know the lyric line, you might be able to guess what some people have sent. (If you Google it, you suck. :lol )

Well there's that. :lol

425, you're in and I'll check your song out. The new songs from 425 and Parama might push the results to late Monday evening, but I'll try not to let this happen by doing an extensive listening today and tomorrow.

Anyway, tidbits are coming up in an hour or so.

I know what title change means :corn

Well, it's just a lyric from a song I've got in this round, and in this case, it's reflecting the quality of the whole round. It's a fantastic batch of songs barring a few. It actually doesn't mean I liked or disliked that particular song, if anyone were wondering.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 10:59:53 AM
well we already knew i suck  :tup
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Sacul on February 13, 2016, 11:02:38 AM
Yup  :smiley:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 13, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
Well, it's just a lyric from a song I've got in this round, and in this case, it's reflecting the quality of the whole round. It's a fantastic batch of songs barring a few. It actually doesn't mean I liked or disliked that particular song, if anyone were wondering.
Yea, right, I know you liked it :P
JK, what I wanted to ask is did time for entering preliminary round passed? If yes, does that mean we could get results tommorow?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 11:27:43 AM
Well, it's just a lyric from a song I've got in this round, and in this case, it's reflecting the quality of the whole round. It's a fantastic batch of songs barring a few. It actually doesn't mean I liked or disliked that particular song, if anyone were wondering.
Yea, right, I know you liked it :P
JK, what I wanted to ask is did time for entering preliminary round passed? If yes, does that mean we could get results tommorow?

The time for entering will pass when I post the tidbits, which is in ~30 minutes.

About the results, see this:

The new songs from 425 and Parama might push the results to late Monday evening, but I'll try not to let this happen by doing an extensive listening today and tomorrow.

I'll do my best to get them up tomorrow, but it could be Monday. I don't want it to be Monday because I probably won't want to do anything after that Steven Wilson show, but it could happen. I'd say results tomorrow is the most probable outcome.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
The time for entering will pass when I post the tidbits, which is in ~30 minutes.
[:soon: intensifies]
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is too good to be wrong
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 13, 2016, 11:53:53 AM
I'll do my best to get them up tomorrow, but it could be Monday. I don't want it to be Monday because I probably won't want to do anything after that Steven Wilson show, but it could happen. I'd say results tomorrow is the most probable outcome.
I wouldn't blame you, it's like that after seeing one of your favorite artists. I remember, after seeing Dream Theater, me and my friend joked nothing will ever bring us joy in life :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 11:58:18 AM
The sign-ups are closed.

Alright, so before Parama and 425 threw their hats in the ring, I pretty much had this all outlined. Two participants were supposed to be in, six players were to proceed in Preliminary Round #2 and two unfortunate players were going to be eliminated. Now with two new contestants I'm not really sure how this will go, I need to listen to their songs to make a decision. And, well, since I'm aiming to post the results tomorrow, the exact amount of people who are in and out is going to be a surprise for you.

(I think the two best songs are absolutely safe though.)



Anyway, here are the tidbits. Have at it and let the speculation / discussion begin!

Oooh, someone from the invitees is probably going to be disappointed.

This song is a lot of fun. So did he rape her dead body first and then got on with eating that heart he ripped out from her?

What’s up with all these bands with Russian words in their names? I mean, I’d understand if there was one, but two?

I feel this song could use a sequel. How about “I’d buy you dinner if I had money / I’d lift you if I had a car”? Write the next two lines yourself!

Out of three longer progressive rock songs I received in this round, this one is undoubtedly the best, and while the other two are fighting for survival as we speak, you’re definitely in the safe zone at least.

So after all this talk you decided to go ahead and send me djent? Well, I think Tyrias might have some bad news for you.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 13, 2016, 12:02:22 PM
This song is a lot of fun. So did he rape her dead body first and then got on with eating that heart he ripped out from her?
Nooo noo you got it all wrong. First he rips her heart out, then eats it, and then continues the rape. I hope "a lot of fun" is enough to get me through  :hat
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Sacul on February 13, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
I think I know what song you sent, ToN :lol

And none of the tidbits are mine :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
This song is a lot of fun. So did he rape her dead body first and then got on with eating that heart he ripped out from her?
Nooo noo you got it all wrong. First he rips her heart out, then eats it, and then continues the rape. I hope "a lot of fun" is enough to get me through  :hat

But in the video he stabs her and rips her heart out first, then he rapes her and then he sits down and eats her heart!

I'm confused.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 13, 2016, 12:10:32 PM
I think I know what song you sent, ToN :lol

Well I made it pretty obvious  :lol but damn that sucks, I was already planning to send it to you. Do you like it? I especially thought you'd love it.

This song is a lot of fun. So did he rape her dead body first and then got on with eating that heart he ripped out from her?
Nooo noo you got it all wrong. First he rips her heart out, then eats it, and then continues the rape. I hope "a lot of fun" is enough to get me through  :hat

But in the video he stabs her and rips her heart out first, then he rapes her and then he sits down and eats her heart!

I'm confused.
I honestly have no idea, following the lyrics it seems the other way around, but you could be right.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 12:22:25 PM
i actually think i've heard that song bcuz i remember that video

i remember not liking the song, though  :lol

i dunno if the band i sent's name is russian or not but they're a belarusian band so i suppose it's possible, i dunno much about russian, sorry  :lol

the fourth tidbit is about the song i googled, i know that for sure

i don't think any of the other tidbits are about mine though, if evermind thinks my song is djent i'll be crazy confused  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 12:23:28 PM
the fourth tidbit is about the song i googled, i know that for sure

Well go ahead and write the next two lines then!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 13, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
I sent progressive song so I hope I survive :P
Can't wait to hear that song with gore lyrics/video(or I got it wrong?), sounds interesting :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Tyrias on February 13, 2016, 12:29:52 PM
And the fourth one is definitely mine, I'm just not sure if that tidbit is a good or bad sign :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Elite on February 13, 2016, 12:31:52 PM
Yeah, great news for all of us who sent a 'long progressive rock song' :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
Can't wait to hear that song with gore lyrics/video(or I got it wrong?), sounds interesting :lol

The gore is both in the lyrics and the video. The whole thing is quite gross to say the least. But there is censorship in the video so you should be fine!

And the fourth one is definitely mine, I'm just not sure if that tidbit is a good or bad sign :lol

That was my intention. Anyway, try writing the next two lines then. :lol

Also, please take a look at your PM inbox, I need some advice.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Tyrias on February 13, 2016, 12:38:17 PM
How about:

I'd hate you if you don't like this song
I'd give you bad scores even if you sent a good song in the championship :xbones








just kidding  ::)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
i went and looked up the song again because i didn't remember it

still don't like it
dunno how this won second place in the band's survivor here but i didn't care for the first place song a whole lot either so  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: 425 on February 13, 2016, 12:40:59 PM
Well, after reading this thread, I'm kind of grossed out now. Please no one ever send me this gross song.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 13, 2016, 12:42:57 PM
i went and looked up the song again because i didn't remember it

still don't like it
dunno how this won second place in the band's survivor here but i didn't care for the first place song a whole lot either so  :lol
I think if you don't like either one of those songs it's pretty safe to say you will never in a thousand years appreciate this band. These are both some of their absolute best, and also my personal #1 and 2.
Also you pretty much 100% gave it away for those who didn't know what song it was  :'(


Well, after reading this thread, I'm kind of grossed out now. Please no one ever send me this gross song.
When is your next roulette? :neverusethis: sign me up
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 12:44:13 PM
How about:

I'd hate you if you don't like this song
I'd give you bad scores even if you sent a good song in the championship :xbones

How about no.

I mean, it's unsingable. "I'd give you bad scores if I had the guts" is a much better line. :lol

i went and looked up the song again because i didn't remember it

still don't like it
dunno how this won second place in the band's survivor here but i didn't care for the first place song a whole lot either so  :lol

Well, since your tastes are pretty much the opposite from mine, I think ToN should be really comforted by this post.

Well, after reading this thread, I'm kind of grossed out now. Please no one ever send me this gross song.

I think I know what to send in your upcoming Championship Roulette round!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Luoto on February 13, 2016, 12:51:41 PM
So after all this talk you decided to go ahead and send me djent prog metal with polyrhythms?

So that was too weird then :lol They basically omitted everything that makes "djent" crap, and sparingly combine it with progressive hard rock as an avantgarde element. That album has about fifteen (15) seconds of harsh vocals.

I hate that word anyway, it was originally a joke on palm muting by Meshuggah guitarist Fredrik Thordendal. I chuckled when Kotowboy called the groovy riff in My Last Farewell "djenty".
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: 425 on February 13, 2016, 12:54:09 PM
Yeah, sorry, ToN, but I probably won't have another roulette of my own for a while. Whoever sends it in the championship will have you beat. And by have you beat I mean likely eliminate themselves from contention.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
So after all this talk you decided to go ahead and send me djent prog metal with polyrhythms?

So that was too weird then :lol They basically omitted everything that makes "djent" crap, and sparingly combine it with progressive hard rock as an avantgarde element. That album has about fifteen (15) seconds of harsh vocals.

I hate that word anyway, it was originally a joke by Meshuggah guitarist Fredrik Thordendal. I chuckled when Kotowboy called the groovy riff in My Last Farewell "djenty".

I have a weird definition of djent. I'll look it up from my previous roulette, wait for it... Oh, here it is.

I don’t actually know how exactly djent sounds, but if I hear the weird riff and dislike it, I assume it’s djent, sorry.

:lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 13, 2016, 12:58:07 PM
The gore is both in the lyrics and the video. The whole thing is quite gross to say the least. But there is censorship in the video so you should be fine!
I know it's not this song because no one is crazy enough to send death metal but check those lyrics by Bloodbath in song Eaten:
I've had one desire since I was born
To see my body ripped and torn
To see my flesh devoured before my eyes
Only for you , I volunteer as a human sacrifice
Carve me up, slice me apart
Suck my guts and lick my heart
Chop me up, I like to be hurt
Drink my marrow and blood for dessert


And for sake of comedy, check disney version of song :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRg8KjYROkM
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 01:00:50 PM
The gore is both in the lyrics and the video. The whole thing is quite gross to say the least. But there is censorship in the video so you should be fine!
I know it's not this song because no one is crazy enough to send death metal

Enter Parama.

Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 13, 2016, 01:01:12 PM
Yeah, sorry, ToN, but I probably won't have another roulette of my own for a while. Whoever sends it in the championship will have you beat. And by have you beat I mean likely eliminate themselves from contention.
Don't worry about it, just check it out if you're ever interested, though I'm not counting on it by the impression it apparently leaves you  :lol


@Luoto, it doesn't matter if they take all the crap out of the "djent", no matter how good it is, in the end it is about sending djent in an Evermind roulette, or whatever the hell he calls djent.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Luoto on February 13, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
@Luoto, it doesn't matter if they take all the crap out of the "djent", no matter how good it is, in the end it is about sending djent in an Evermind roulette, or whatever the hell he calls djent.

Yep, I got it. Note to self: careful with avant-garde grooves on this guy :biggrin:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 01:02:40 PM
The gore is both in the lyrics and the video. The whole thing is quite gross to say the least. But there is censorship in the video so you should be fine!
I know it's not this song because no one is crazy enough to send death metal

Enter Parama.
i mean, yeah, technically, for 20 seconds

honestly the growls on this album are pretty minimal throughout, i half-forget it's a death metal album
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: 425 on February 13, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Don't worry about it, just check it out if you're ever interested, though I'm not counting on it by the impression it apparently leaves you  :lol

Yeah, I'm one of those people who does care about lyrics, and if the lyrics are unnecessarily gory or creepy or gross or whatever, that will tank my ability to like the song. That's the main reason why, though I love the album musically, In Absentia will never rank as for me as it does for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Sacul on February 13, 2016, 01:08:54 PM
I think I know what song you sent, ToN :lol

Well I made it pretty obvious  :lol but damn that sucks, I was already planning to send it to you. Do you like it? I especially thought you'd love it.
My cousin showed it to me because of the creepy video. The music was OK I guess, I recall it seemed to drag a bit tho.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 13, 2016, 01:27:17 PM
I know it's not this song because no one is crazy enough to send death metal

Enter Parama.
i mean, yeah, technically, for 20 seconds

honestly the growls on this album are pretty minimal throughout, i half-forget it's a death metal album
:rollin
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Elite on February 13, 2016, 02:05:57 PM
i dunno if the band i sent's name is russian or not but they're a belarusian band so i suppose it's possible, i dunno much about russian, sorry  :lol

Did you send Serdce? :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Crow on February 13, 2016, 02:11:50 PM
it's possible :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: splent on February 13, 2016, 03:24:33 PM
i sent a long progressive rock song.

There are many amazing long progressive rock songs.

Mine is one of them, at least in my opinion.

Man I hope I'm safe :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 13, 2016, 04:16:00 PM
I'm guessing I got cockblocked based on someone through is going to be disappointed.  Or someone sent one of my old standbys.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: lonestar on February 13, 2016, 07:13:36 PM
I'm guessing I got cockblocked based on someone through is going to be disappointed.  Or someone sent one of my old standbys.

I sent all my standbys in his last roulette, and I'm picking out totally obscure shit for this one, ain't a chance in hell I'll get cockblocked.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 13, 2016, 07:29:25 PM
Mine is one I never sent before.  I'm probably going the same route as you this time.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
What are your feelings about instrumentals Mr Evermind?     
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 01:43:51 AM
What are your feelings about instrumentals Mr Evermind?   

Well, I like me a good instrumental sometimes, but it can easily fall flat too. Stream of Consciousness is actually my Top 10 DT song, so there's that. The instrumental should have something memorable for me to like it. I also seem to have a soft spot for non-metal instrumentals, beautiful and folky and acoustic. I seem to like these more.

Send it and find out I guess.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2016, 01:54:14 AM
OK- Greensleeves it is  :metal
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 04:00:25 AM
OK- Greensleeves it is  :metal

:lol

Damn, I can't settle on the amount of people I will eliminate. Each song has at least a few saving graces. I think I might let more people in the second preliminary round than I originally intended.

Results this evening.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 14, 2016, 04:06:06 AM
Or.. you can pull a Sacul and let 15 people in?  :lol Fuck priorities right?

I wouldn't let me in if you don't like funky metal instrumentals, I'm a big fan of those and I would almsot surely send something along those lines. :metal
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 14, 2016, 04:11:10 AM
Just have everyone on DTF play.

4700 odd songs per round, 10 rounds. You'll be the most musically literate motherfucker on the planet by the end of the roulette.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 04:15:37 AM
Or.. you can pull a Sacul and let 15 people in?  :lol Fuck priorities right?

I wouldn't let me in if you don't like funky metal instrumentals, I'm a big fan of those and I would almsot surely send something along those lines. :metal

No I won't. 12 people in the main competition it is.

Actually, speaking of letting people in, well, I'm not judging solely by the song they've sent. I mean, the songs are the most important thing, yes, but I also analyze their performance in my previous roulette if they've played there (not in the way "ha, they didn't make it in Round 7, they suck, bye bye", but more "is this guy able to send something I'll like?"), I look at the person's tastes overall to determine if they can send something that will interest me throughout all the rounds. I want to get a lot of amazing music in this roulette, that's why I invited eight people I knew I could count on, and I want to get four more people that can send me amazing music.

But if any of participants would've sent the absolutely awesome song for this round, the one I would fall in love instantly, they would've been in without a second thought about their previous performance, tastes and whatnot. And, in fact, that's what one person did. The best song in this round is so fantastic and brilliant.

Well, you'll see what I mean when I post the results.

Just have everyone on DTF play.

4700 odd songs per round, 10 rounds. You'll be the most musically literate motherfucker on the planet by the end of the roulette.

Yeah, no. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 08:08:02 AM
Only a few write-ups left to do, but there's also that Manchester City - Tottenham Hotspur game I wanted to watch. We'll see how it goes, I may post the results before it or after it. Depends on how fast I'll write them.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Elite on February 14, 2016, 08:16:50 AM
Exciting times!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 08:49:32 AM
Alright, results will definitely be up before the game. Only a few finishing strokes to make them look nicer. Both invited participants and the contestants, you'd better get ready...
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
 :metal
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Intentions perfectly clear (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 14, 2016, 08:53:28 AM
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Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 09:10:42 AM
Well, here we go. I had to split to post in two because it exceeded the characters limit. In the first preliminary round. I know, right? :lol Well, you'll just have to bear with me.

Preliminary Round #1 Results:

In like Flynn:


Tomislav95: Redemption – Black and White World


Oooh, someone from the invitees is probably going to be disappointed. Redemption was an obvious hole in my list, the one I’m surprised no one took an advantage of in my first roulette, and one of the invited folks has already asked me about this band’s absence in the list — and all for naught, since you were quick on the trigger indeed, effectively blocking that person by sending this magnificent little gem to me.

This is by far the best song of this round. Everything about it is perfect to my ears, from the wonderful keyboard intro fitting so much with the album cover and the general atmosphere of the song to the deep and soulful Ray Alder’s vocal performance. Love songs can come off as really forced and facepalm-worthy, but in the instances they’re done right, they can be captivating and touching, and I think this is a great example of this. The lyrics are deftly written, and Ray’s voice just adds the magic to this tune through these carefully written longing vocal melodies. The prominence of keyboards and bass throughout the track is another highlight, and the happy, uplifting ending with the simple yet gripping harmonies seals the deal for me. This is too good to be wrong, indeed. I’ve nothing to complain about. In fact, I liked this song so much that when I was in the record store in Friday I’ve tried to find anything from Redemption there, but sadly they didn’t have anything. Still, I’m aiming for some purchases of this band’s material here.

You’re in straight to the main competition. You don’t have to send for the next preliminary round, but you can send something if you want to. Note that if I like your song enough, the artist will be banned. This is a good way to cockblock someone or to check out my tastes with something you’re unsure of. (9.5/10)

Train of Naught: Avenged Sevenfold – A Little Piece of Heaven

This was, by far, the best grower of the round. After a first listen I was thinking about eliminating you, because something about this song just didn’t click with me, and then I found out I was humming the chorus melody to myself every now and then. I guess what I needed to do is embrace the playful and quirky atmosphere of this sprawling song, and after I approached it with not all that seriousness I was able to appreciate the hell out of it. Thankfully, I’m not against the grossness in the songs while it’s all good-hearted and fun.

This song is remarkable due to the huge theatrical vibe, loads of unusual instruments in your standard metal song and of course, there are those different vocalists. There are lots of subtle orchestration, sound effects to enhance the experience, and the dramatic sections with raging vocals are alternating with the fairly calm choruses, including the severely annoying “my baby don’t crah – ah – ah – ah – ah – y” which is probably the most earworm-ish moment and fits perfectly in the whole Broadway vibe of the song. Needless to say, I love the dramatic sections the most, and my favourite part is probably the bridge where they’ve got the guest female singer to contribute. “Well then I’ll grant you a chance”, this part is just fantastic. But I’ve got to say, the song works spectacularly well as a whole composition, and this was another highlight of the round. It has a bit of mood from Scaretale by Nightwish, except I actually like your song, and it has a bit of that madness of Sonata Arctica’s Unia, and the outcome exceeded my expectations. I don’t see myself enjoying an album full of the tracks like that, but one or two occasional tracks like that, yes, this would appeal to me. And anyway, this song is a lot of fun. So did he rape her dead body first and then got on with eating that heart he ripped out from her?

You took a risk and send the band that was in “I didn’t like it” list, and it paid off big time. This song was much better than Afterlife. You too are in straight to the main competition. You don’t have to send for the next preliminary round, but you can send something if you want to. Note that if I like your song enough, the artist will be banned. This is a good way to cockblock someone or to check out my tastes with something you’re unsure of. (9/10)

Almost in like Mr. Bean (okay, I’ve got nothing for this one)

Bolsters / Big Hath: Arion – Out of the Ashes

Well you guys are certainly good at sending the same songs. First you both went with Shadows, and then you’ve both settled on this one, so I assume Shadows is Arion’s best song and this is the second best? This makes sense, since I liked Shadows a lot but just forgot to check out the rest of these guys’ work, and if this song is any indication, I should do it as soon as I can.

This song is somewhat relentless kick-ass power metal, but it’s quite different from your usual double-bass onslaught you can hear in a lot of new power metal bands, this track has somewhat of a progressive edge. There are symphonic parts (played on keyboard I guess, but still), pounding riffs and the very memorable vocal melodies, with the singer knowing where to go powerful and where to go high-pitched to the point it sounds like someone is squeezing his balls. It’s a great tune and my only complaint is the production could be a bit clearer; this song sounds a bit muddy. After Shadows and this song I can definitely see why you guys would like this band, I need to check the whole album for sure.

You both proceed to the Preliminary Round #2. Your song was quite great, so you have a bit of advantage over the rest of participants in that round. Just don’t send the same song again. (9/10)

Tyrias: Brand New – Handcuffs

I’ve got two ballads in this round, and I liked yours much more than the other one. While I didn’t think Sowing Season was anything special, I connected with this song instantly and this may yet inspire me to check out Brand New. The chill guitar, the soft, uncaring singer’s voice makes this song very appealing and enjoyable, and the inclusion of cello during the further “I’d arrest you if I had handcuffs” passages takes the song on the whole another level. It’s a great example how one well-thought-out vocal melody can make the song, with the fitting instrumentation behind. That’s not to say I didn’t like the rest of this tune, because it was quite good and definitely not out of place, but the aforementioned passage is the one that kept popping up in my mind here and there. I was actually disappointed when it didn’t show up one last time in the end, I feel this song could use another run of this beautiful melody. Or maybe it could use a sequel instead. How about “I’d buy you dinner if I had money / I’d lift you if I had a car”? Write the next two lines yourself!

You proceed to the Preliminary Round #2, and along with Bolsters and Big Hath you’re on top of this food chain, so to speak. You’ve got a bit of advantage over the people down this list. (8.5/10)

splent: Kansas – Song for America

Well, this was another grower, and while at the first listen I was worried your participation in this roulette would be over in just one round, I’ve come to appreciate this song quite a bit over the subsequent listens. It came to the point I can safely say that out of three longer progressive rock songs I received in this round, this one is undoubtedly the best, and while the other two are fighting for survival as we speak, you’re definitely in the safe zone.

I was familiar with some Kansas songs (their main hits mostly), and I can’t even say I’ve liked those, so I was quite apprehensive about this tune, but it’s actually quite a pleasant ten minutes ride. You mentioned in your PM this song doesn’t feel like it’s ten minutes long, and I completely agree with you, it feels much shorter. The vocals could be more impressive, but they fit the song well, and so do the instrumental parts – my favourite things are the up-front bass, which was something the progressive bands from 70s and 80s loved to do, and of course the lovely violin making its appearances throughout this tune. The keyboard solos are also lovely. I’m usually not too big about those happy progressive rock songs – it takes something unique to interest me in these – but I admit I should’ve checked Kansas years ago, this song seems right up my alley and after the initial not-so-good impressions I enjoyed it every time I had to spin it during this round. Well done. I’ll dive into Kansas discography after this roulette.

You proceed to the Preliminary Round #2, and you’re somewhere in the middle there. You don’t have a huge advantage over everyone, but you aren’t in that bad position either. Your song was solid, and to get further you should maybe up your game a notch, but you still have pretty good chance to make it. (8/10)

Sacul: Marketa Irglova – Time Immemorial

You are one of those participants whose previous record works against you, because except Pure Reason Revolution that I didn’t quite dig and Swans that I didn’t quite dig, you didn’t have anything applying to my tastes to offer me in my first roulette. I wasn’t sure what I should expect from you there, but you opened with a really nice and beautiful ballad, which, despite not being the best song and even best ballad of the round, was enough to get my full attention.

If we take into consideration both my first roulette and this one, this is probably your best song yet. You of all people should know I’m a sucker for ballads, and this one hits it quite close to the spot – the whole acoustic background and Marketa’s voice are entwined to create a thing of beauty, a wonderful little song. I feel her voice is even a bit under-utilized here, and she could be a bit more powerful in a few moments considering the subject, especially in the last part starting with “Since time immemorial there’s been conflict and war”, but otherwise it’s a fine song and I’ve enjoyed it a lot. If you have more things like that, I’d be glad to see you in my roulette… it’s just somehow I doubt that. Feel free to convince me otherwise in the next preliminary round?

You proceed to the Preliminary Round #2, and you’re somewhere in the middle there. You don’t have a huge advantage over everyone, but you aren’t in that bad position either. Your song was solid, but considering your previous track record, you definitely should up your game a notch if you want to get in. Still, you’ve got a pretty good chance to make it. (8/10)

425: Coheed and Cambria – Key Entity Extraction I: Domino the Destitute

You’ve jumped upon this train quite late, but it won’t diminish your chances to make it as long as you send me great songs! You might want to try harder than that if you really want to play in the main part though. You probably didn’t know that, but my main problem preventing me to check out C&C was the fact I couldn’t stand the vocalist voice. I’ve mostly checked out some bits of their music here and there, but I never checked out any whole song by them. I even fell for the joke regarding Metallica’s Welcome Home being the cover of Coheed and Cambria’s song due to my ignorance once. :lol

Well, it was high time to rectify that, and listening to this song with an open mind, I can’t quite say I hate the vocals here. They’re quirky, yes, but they’re not that much quirky that I won’t give them a chance, and while on some occasions during this song I cringe a bit, in the other moments the vocal style works just fine. There are also some moments I don’t quite understand their necessity yet, like the laughs in the middle of the song or the spoken samples, but I don’t know the whole back story, so I’ll just let them slip for now. I can’t honestly say I loved this song, but I liked a lot of parts in it, and while I might have found it disjointed, I’ll write it off as me not being familiar enough with the song. I can’t digest a complex song in only a day while I still have to listen to twelve others.

Still, I’ve liked enough what I’ve heard so you proceed to the Preliminary Round #2, but you’re not in the favoured position, and not even in the middle, somewhere just a smidge below that. Your song was good, but to get in the main part you’ll either have to send something better than that and hope the other participants will screw up too, or send something incredible that will make me drool and jump in a sheer exultation or something. Another song like the one you’ve sent this time won’t do the trick. (7.5/10)

Scorpion: Heart of Cygnus – The Mountain King

You’ve played in my first roulette and while you’ve sent some great tracks, you submitted some duds either. You were close to make it through the eliminations, but you’ve lost it in the Tiebreaker to ErHaO, sending that Theocracy song. I’m quite interested in Theocracy now, actually, but I still think that song wasn’t too good. Anyway, I was quite intrigued with what you had to offer this time.

I’ve read over the Internet this band includes only two musicians, one of drums and one on everything else, and that’s certainly impressive. I guess the string parts are the samples then, or did they get some guest musicians on that record? Anyway, I love how authentic and folky the intro sounds here, like it’s introducing some magical land far away. Considering the cover and the melody in the beginning, this song reminded me of Heroes of Might and Magic III for some reason. Anyway, this was one of those longer progressive rock songs I didn’t really appreciate on the first listen and I still remain unconvinced. The vocal melodies here are a real downer. I think a song with such a small vocals presence could use them to a greater effect, and instead they feel kind of unneeded to me here. I also thought this song drags a bit and it didn’t warrant the full nine minutes to get its point through. It’s enjoyable, yes, but my attention drifts off if I don’t force myself to stay alert, and that’s never a good thing.

You’re barely through and you proceed to Preliminary Round #2, but not only you’re not in a favoured position, your next entry pretty much has to leave me in awe. I’d say you’ve got to send the best song of the next round if you want to get in. (7/10)

Elite: Kino – Losers’ Day Parade

I was intrigued both by your participation and by this band, seeing how they’ve got Pete Trewavas (I hate typing this surname in, really, it'so difficult to type) on board, but in fact this was more underwhelming than it was enjoyable. I mean, when this song gets good, it’s certainly quite a great one, but the lows are sticking out and quite persistently bring this song down. The stripped down part beginning from 2:20 is the greatest example of that, and I have to gather all my tenacity to sit through it, and it doesn’t help when we get reprises of this theme later. When this tune gets more intense, however, it becomes progressively more interesting. My favourite part is probably the ending, where the band goes all out with “Dead nobodies in company cars”, and yeah, this is the kind of music I love, but it took them six minutes to get there. Even after six listens, I wasn’t able to grow to like this song as much as I wanted to, and that makes me think that maybe it’s not that great after all.

Please don’t read this as me being condescending, but here goes: in all honesty, I should eliminate you right at this point, but I’m really intrigued in what you have to offer, so I think you deserve one more chance. Therefore, you’re barely through and you proceed to Preliminary Round #2, but to earn yourself a place in the main competition, you have to wow the fuck out of me. I know you can do it. Maybe it’s time to take some risks? (6.5/10)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 09:10:58 AM
Out like the third Fallout

Parama: Serdce – Unique Path

Well, what’s up with all these bands with Russian words in their names? I mean, I’d understand if there was one, but two? First I get Kino (which is “cinema” if you translate it) and now Serdce (a heart). And it’s also a Parama’s submission, so I’ve got to expect some weird shit.

Alright, so whoever’s reading this, please don’t laugh at this next sentence. I don’t know how mathcore sounds, but this sounds totally like mathcore. I mean, those precise keyboard sounds in the beginning and the lifeless vocals, this is totally how I imagine mathcore. I have no idea what it really is, but it’s like that djent situation all over again! When these sounds cease to exist, this song even becomes awesome, especially since 1:10 to 1:35 when those incredible brass instruments kick in, very low yet very chilling and persistent. But then the song goes on through its motions again and well, in theory it’s really something I should dig, because I do like bleak and dark landscapes in the music, but this feels really lifeless. The instrumental part is where it becomes really good again, but… well, you of all people know what comes after this instrumental part.

You were right saying you would be down there on the scoreboard, and that’s why I decided to host those qualifiers first. No offense, but you’re out. In fact, if it’s any consolation, you saved Elite from going out. I was determined to eliminate at least two players, and if it wasn’t for you, he would’ve been the second one. (6/10)

Luoto: Oddland – Still the Spirit Stays

So after all this talk you decided to go ahead and send me djent? Well, I think Tyrias might have some bad news for you.

I must say, I kept bothering myself with thinking you’re new in this roulette routine and you don’t deserve it, but in the end I just couldn’t find anything to get you in the next round. You probably aren’t aware of my tastes that much, so I guess this song was a shot in the dark, and you pretty much missed big time.

I’m not even sure this is djent (it’s probably not, given my track record, at least not in the rest of the musical universe), but it comes as close as it can being djent for me. This song is just too busy instrumentally; I think it also has those down-tuned guitars, crushing riffs I dislike and overall heaviness too. However, that’s not to say this song doesn’t have anything good and note-worthy – I’ve enjoyed the vocal melodies a lot, the way they build up tension is admirable, and the singer’s voice is pleasant – too bad it’s buried under these guitar sounds (polyrhythms? I’ve got nothing, I’m not a musician.) There are some good parts in this song, but my overall impression is that after those four minutes I find myself tired of listening to the music.

I’m sorry and I wish you luck in the future roulettes. Don’t let this one loss discourage you – maybe your song was even great and I was too blind (deaf?) to see (hear?) it, but I’ve got my tastes and you got yours – it’s just they don’t seem to be compatible judging by this one song, and I don’t want to try and confirm it. I’ll just stick to my comfort zone.

You’re out but thank you for giving this roulette a shot! (5.5/10)

Dick Pick:

jingle.boy: Glass Mind – Haunting Regrets

If there’s an option for making a dick move like cockblocking your fellow competitors before the competition even began, and you wonder who would do such a thing, look no further than Chad ‘win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat’ Belcher, who is always glad to bring some headache to the people he’s playing against.

(Well, actually, if I was playing in my roulette, I would’ve done the same thing. That’s why I included that option, in fact.)

But let’s rank this song! I know your first intention was to block one of the players, but this is actually quite fantastic. From the guitarwork to the ever-present, quite prominent keyboards in the mix, and the vocals are quite a blast too. I think this could use a bit clearer production too, at least in the guitar department, since the keyboards are quite ringing and nice, but this doesn’t detract my enjoyment of this song anyway. Nothing really mindblowing (not like that Redemption song), but still a great metal number; I could use bands like that in my discography, so I thank you for this one. I think there’s someone among the participants that won’t be that grateful though… (9/10)

Bands added to banned list:

Redemption
Avenged Sevenfold
Arion
Brand New
Kansas
Marketa Irglova
Coheed and Cambria
Glass Mind

Updated list of participants (also available in the second post)

Contestants for the free spots (so far):
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 09:11:48 AM
Preliminary Round #2

So now we've got eight people competing for two free spots. Same rules, this round is open, the length limit is 10 minutes. I'll also take into account your previous entries for Round 1. I've pretty much indicated what you have to do to make it in your songs write-ups, so I guess that's it. The final chance to get in the main participation and kick the invited participants asses.

Send your songs!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Luoto on February 14, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
I’m sorry and I wish you luck in the future roulettes. Don’t let this one loss discourage you – maybe your song was even great and I was too blind (deaf?) to see (hear?) it, but I’ve got my tastes and you got yours – it’s just they don’t seem to be compatible judging by this one song, and I don’t want to try and confirm it. I’ll just stick to my comfort zone.

No worries :tup Now that I know your taste is a bit more old school (I admit a couple of throw-offs in the banned list), I would know what I'd send had I been through the round. But alas, better luck next time!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Crow on February 14, 2016, 09:19:08 AM
you're welcome, Elite  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Elite on February 14, 2016, 09:19:55 AM
Redemption wasn't on your list? :facepalm:

you're welcome, Elite  :lol

Thanks bro :lol

Now not to blow it again in the second round
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 14, 2016, 09:26:39 AM
Wow, awesome! I'm reliefed that I'm through but also pretty bummed I had to use my perfect round 4 theme song to do so. Oh well.

including the severely annoying “my baby don’t crah – ah – ah – ah – ah – y” which is probably the most earworm-ish moment and fits perfectly in the whole Broadway vibe of the song. Needless to say, I love the dramatic sections the most, and my favourite part is probably the bridge where they’ve got the guest female singer to contribute. “Well then I’ll grant you a chance”, this part is just fantastic. But I’ve got to say, the song works spectacularly well as a whole composition, and this was another highlight of the round.
Yeah, that's one of those typical Avenged moments that most people can't stand, and I would lie if I don't slightly cringe at all the "nyeaaaah" moments, a friend of mine who doesn't realyl like A7X calls Afterlife the nyeaah song because of those verses.  :lol

I thought you'd like the male/female vocal switch-offs, got quite a bit of those from you in my roulette aswell.
Congrats to Tomislav and good luck to the remaining 8!

Oh and I'll probably send something just for the heck of it because I'm pretty curious what you think about it, but I would never dare to send it in a regular round.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 09:27:45 AM
I knew you'll like Redemption :)
I'll probably send you one artist which I wouldn't send in regular round, I want to play safe :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
Forgot to say it in the write-up, but that Brand New song would've been perfect for Round 4.

Redemption wasn't on your list? :facepalm:

Yeah. I advice to check the list more thoroughly, there are some obvious bands missing which I just didn't take time to check.

Welcome both Tomislav and ToN!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 09:41:46 AM
Nice, time to step up my game  :smiley:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tyrias on February 14, 2016, 09:43:35 AM
Forgot to say it in the write-up, but that Brand New song would've been perfect for Round 4.

Redemption wasn't on your list? :facepalm:

Yeah. I advice to check the list more thoroughly, there are some obvious bands missing which I just didn't take time to check.

Welcome both Tomislav and ToN!

5 out of 6 songs I have planned would fit for round 4 :lol
Glad you liked it, I'm gonna send another song that is a bit outside of your comfort zone, but has lots of elements I know you like. Now I only have to find it somewhere that’s not spotify.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Crow on February 14, 2016, 09:46:18 AM
i put redemption on a wishlist in my last roulette and nobody sent a single song from them, evermind doesn't even have a wishlist and gets redemption first round, and loves it  :lol

granted i was like, talking smack about the band based on the one or two songs i listened to so  :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 09:49:40 AM
Welcome both Tomislav and ToN!
Thank you :tup
i put redemption on a wishlist in my last roulette and nobody sent a single song from them, evermind doesn't even have a wishlist and gets redemption first round, and loves it  :lol

granted i was like, talking smack about the band based on the one or two songs i listened to so  :P
They're becoming one of my favorite bands. Can't wait for their new release(it's out in 2 weeks), check 2 new songs they released if you want, pretty sweet stuff :)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 09:52:57 AM
i put redemption on a wishlist in my last roulette and nobody sent a single song from them, evermind doesn't even have a wishlist and gets redemption first round, and loves it  :lol

granted i was like, talking smack about the band based on the one or two songs i listened to so  :P

Well I loved Redemption, which probably means you'll hate it, so don't bother. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Scorpion on February 14, 2016, 09:53:29 AM
Yeah, your tastes don't make any sense. Sorry man. :P

Will probably send something soon, but whatever.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 14, 2016, 09:55:50 AM
I actually really liked that Coheed song, but checking out the album after my roulette, this was the song where the vocals were the least bothering, definitely the best choice of song for someone who doesn't like Claudio's voice as much.

So Tomislav, are you still interested in the gore song?  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 09:56:41 AM
Yeah, your tastes don't make any sense. Sorry man. :P

Will probably send something soon, but whatever.

It's not that they don't make any sense, it's just you haven't been able to figure them out.

Sorry if I frustrated you with my write-up, but, well, I was trying to be honest.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 09:59:57 AM
So Tomislav, are you still interested in the gore song?  :lol
I don't like Avenged Sevenfold at all. Only their song I somewhat enjoy is Welcome to the Family. A Little Piece of Heaven is interesting (didn't expect it to sound like that) but I'm not in the mood for it now, I'll check it again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tyrias on February 14, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
Sent for the next preliminary round!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: splent on February 14, 2016, 10:26:20 AM
Glad I got through to the next round. I'm glad you liked it. Gotta figure out a song to send you.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 10:33:34 AM
What's your take on harsh vocals, Ev? Not growls or screams, but something like Devin Townsend :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
What's your take on harsh vocals, Ev? Not growls or screams, but something like Devin Townsend :P

I really dislike Devin's music that goes beyond ambient / acoustic things because of how thick and layered it is, so I don't think it's the best example, I can't say anything about his harsh vocals because I'm biased in the wrong way. You should provide me another example I think.

If those harsh vocals are anything like, say, Jorn Lande, I'm all in for that.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 10:47:41 AM
Oh I get it :)

Now time to choose between a badass metal tune, an intimate folk ballad, and a more electronic song, mmnnnn.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 14, 2016, 10:50:08 AM
I'll help you, get rid of the electronic song and you only have to decide between 2 instead of 3.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 10:51:56 AM
If Evermind's round 6 submission tells me something, is that he would like the electronic song :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 10:54:14 AM
Really, it just depends. There are only a few electronic projects I like. The one I sent to you is a rare thing, as I told you in PM. And it's more ambient, folky and beautiful than electronic.

If there are some great vocal melodies, intimate folk ballad is a safe choice I think. Whether you want to play it safe or not, it's up to you.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: 425 on February 14, 2016, 11:01:34 AM
Alright, put in my song, got pretty much the result I expected. :lol It was worth a shot, at least.

I think it's highly unlikely that I'm getting in at this point, and I think I won't have nearly as much to send you as others on the off-chance that I do make it. I'll probably try to find something where there's a 90% chance you won't like it/think is just okay and a 10% chance that you'll really like it and just send that off and see what happens.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 14, 2016, 11:04:07 AM
Well, my primary intention is always to send kickass music.  Just in these prelim rounds, I gotta take out the competition when I can.  I'm so glad there's a second preliminary round.  :biggrin:

Arion - great, GREAT album.  That was one of my 'instant' purchases at the end of the last roulette - thanks Jon!  Shadows is :2metal:  Dat chorus!   :hefdaddy
Redemption - exellent tune on probably my favorite album by them.  Alder's vocals took a long time to 'click' for me, but when they did, it was bliss.
Heart of Cygnus - I totally get where you're coming from.  I enjoy all three albums very much, but it's not something that really captures my attention, or draws me back.  One of those middle-of-the-road bands for me.

Eliminating people through preliminary rounds is a tough thing to do - especially when they send good music.  That happened to me in my roulette's with RJ, Kingshmegland, Prog Snob, and Nekov.  Ya just need to put on your big boy panties, and kick the worst songs out.

Time to reload the rock-block cannon.  And I know just what to load it with.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 11:11:27 AM
Eliminating people through preliminary rounds is a tough thing to do - especially when they send good music.  That happened to me in my roulette's with RJ, Kingshmegland, Prog Snob, and Nekov.  Ya just need to put on your big boy panties, and kick the worst songs out.

And Mason. He sent you that fantastic Phideaux song and you've just heartlessly eliminated him.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 11:12:57 AM
Ok last question before sending: don't you mind 'breathy' kind of vocals?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Ok last question before sending: don't you mind 'breathy' kind of vocals?

Well... I don't really like JLB breathy vocals on the last album. I thought it was a letdown at The Theater Equation too - he did much better job on the actual THE. If you can provide another example, I'll tell you more.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 11:27:29 AM
Think something along the lines of the beginning of DT's Surrounded.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Think something along the lines of the beginning of DT's Surrounded.

Well, actually it's not something I like a lot. I prefer my male vocalists' voices to sound more full, if that makes sense. I might like the female voice sounding this way though, but no guarantee. But hey, I might like the male voice sounding like that too. Depends on the song I guess.

Send and find out!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
Evermind, do you like jazz and classical music?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Evermind, do you like jazz and classical music?

Oh shit, I forgot to say anything about classical music! Thank god Lucien didn't sign up. I like classical music, but please refrain from sending it in this roulette.

Jazz, yeah, I think I would enjoy jazz. Can this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PwQrEbEnrM) be considered jazz? If yes, yeah, I think I'll enjoy this kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 12:26:19 PM
Evermind, do you like jazz and classical music?

Oh shit, I forgot to say anything about classical music! Thank god Lucien didn't sign up. I like classical music, but please refrain from sending it in this roulette.

Jazz, yeah, I think I would enjoy jazz. Can this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PwQrEbEnrM) be considered jazz? If yes, yeah, I think I'll enjoy this kind of stuff.
I surely won't send *real* classical music but maybe something modern or with classical influence.
Also, is that Gilmour's song something that would be ok for round 4 since it has sax?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 12:32:13 PM
Yeah, that Gilmour song would've been quite great for Round 4.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 14, 2016, 12:52:26 PM
Yeah The Girl In Yellow Dress is quite jazzy :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 01:00:37 PM
Alright guys, so here is the drill: three persons out of eight have sent their songs already. Tomorrow is a full-blown Steven Wilson's day for me, and while I will probably be able to post some small responses from work, I won't be there most of the evening and will probably show up only at night. I'm still there for ~20 minutes or so for today, so if you've got any questions, fire them up now.

However, depending on how good Steven Wilson's gig will be, I might have a day-off at Tuesday to sleep and just enjoy a rare occurence when I don't have to work at the actual working day, and if other people's opinions are any indication, I'm definitely going to have a day-off because SW gigs seem to be always great. And since I'll most probably have a day-off, I will be able to dedicate a great deal of time to listening to your songs. So in order to speed up this roulette, I'd appreciate if the second preliminary round contestants send me their songs today or tomorrow. No pressure though, because I don't want to inflict any strict deadlines - we're all people and we all got our real lives to deal with - but it would be nice indeed.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 14, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
OK I'm not associated with this roulette at all, but I'm confused, how does the quality of the SW show affect whether or not you get the day off?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 01:17:05 PM
OK I'm not associated with this roulette at all, but I'm confused, how does the quality of the SW show affect whether or not you get the day off?

Well if it's great, I'll just call and take a day off to enhance my experience even further with a huge load of sleep on Tuesday which is something I don't ever get. If it sucks, I may as well go to work and not bother. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 01:29:39 PM
I just did a quick listening to one of the songs and it seems I've got a Parama-approved song! :lol

Okay, I'm out for today.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Crow on February 14, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
well now i'm curious as to what it is, and since i'm not playing in the roulette anymore...  :angel:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 14, 2016, 01:47:31 PM
well now i'm curious as to what it is, and since i'm not playing in the roulette anymore...  :angel:

...you might as well wait for the results just like everyone else is going to do!

HAHAHAHA HAHAHA

Alright, definitely out now.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Crow on February 14, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
you are a sadist  :loser:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: ErHaO on February 14, 2016, 03:51:08 PM
Ah, damn, got cockblocked for Kansas. I was going to send the song Miracles Out of Nowhere from their (imo) excellent album Leftoverture in the 4th round due to it having a voilin. As that is one of the rounds my selection is still rather limited for, I will have to think about it a bit more I guess  :P

I never considered Avenged Sevenfold, but I do love some of their albums/songs quite a bit, and that tune is indeed a lot of fun.




And a question, do you mind intrumental songs? Also, have fun on the SW concert! I already said it in the SW thread, but they were fantastic two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 14, 2016, 03:58:33 PM
Ah, damn, got cockblocked for Kansas. I was going to send the song Miracles Out of Nowhere from their (imo) excellent album Leftoverture in the 4th round due to it having a voilin. As that is one of the rounds my selection is still rather limited for, I will have to think about it a bit more I guess  :P

I never considered Avenged Sevenfold, but I do love some of their albums/songs quite a bit, and that tune is indeed a lot of fun.
I was planning to send something off Leftoverture, too. Such an amazing album :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: ErHaO on February 14, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
Ah, damn, got cockblocked for Kansas. I was going to send the song Miracles Out of Nowhere from their (imo) excellent album Leftoverture in the 4th round due to it having a voilin. As that is one of the rounds my selection is still rather limited for, I will have to think about it a bit more I guess  :P

I never considered Avenged Sevenfold, but I do love some of their albums/songs quite a bit, and that tune is indeed a lot of fun.
I was planning to send something off Leftoverture, too. Such an amazing album :hefdaddy

Indeed!

Ruslan, if you are going to check out this artist, I would reccommend giving this album a spin ;)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Bolsters on February 14, 2016, 05:32:17 PM
I was really hoping to get though automatically with that song, now I have to decide which of my selections is worth blowing on a second preliminary. I'll send something later today.

Edit: Fuck it, sent. No idea if Big Hath will send this aswell or not. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
I just played that Redemption song (which I had rated rather low originally) and I liked it.  That rarely happens with me but it clicked this time around.

Keep the cock blocks/ Dick Picks "coming" because it's all good for helping me cull my list of "possibles".     That was a strong round - looking forward to another very strong qualifying round  :metal  :D

and that A7X song is a pisser :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2016, 07:30:33 PM
Sucks that Redemption is out.

I don't see any advantages of cock blocking.  Why not just use that band straight up if you don't want another competitor using them?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: splent on February 14, 2016, 08:44:44 PM
Ah, damn, got cockblocked for Kansas. I was going to send the song Miracles Out of Nowhere from their (imo) excellent album Leftoverture in the 4th round due to it having a voilin. As that is one of the rounds my selection is still rather limited for, I will have to think about it a bit more I guess  :P

I never considered Avenged Sevenfold, but I do love some of their albums/songs quite a bit, and that tune is indeed a lot of fun.




And a question, do you mind intrumental songs? Also, have fun on the SW concert! I already said it in the SW thread, but they were fantastic two weeks ago.

I KNEW IT!!! I'm glad I used Kansas right away.

I have several songs that use the instruments mentioned, so I'm totally hoping that I make it through.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Big Hath on February 14, 2016, 11:30:44 PM
I was really hoping to get though automatically with that song, now I have to decide which of my selections is worth blowing on a second preliminary. I'll send something later today.

Edit: Fuck it, sent. No idea if Big Hath Bolsters will send this aswell or not. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 15, 2016, 02:29:39 AM
No, you managed to send different songs this time.

Casper, I answered a similar question about instrumentals just a few pages back I think. I'm at work now so you'll have to look it up yourself though.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2016, 04:35:15 AM
Sucks that Redemption is out.

I don't see any advantages of cock blocking.  Why not just use that band straight up if you don't want another competitor using them?

A) I can be a big dick  :biggrin:  Call it over-compensation :lol   :|
B) I can't use 3 bands in Round 1
C) Good time to test the waters, and check/verify what kind of music is going to do well
D) I've got more than 8 rounds of music to share (assuming I make it past the 'cut' round)

@ Brent... no use in trying to rock-block you.  That well of yours runs way too deep.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Bolsters on February 15, 2016, 04:42:04 AM
No, you managed to send different songs this time.
Now I have to wonder if we cockblocked each other. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 04:49:42 AM
Sucks that Redemption is out.

I don't see any advantages of cock blocking.  Why not just use that band straight up if you don't want another competitor using them?

A) I can be a big dick  :biggrin:  Call it over-compensation :lol   :|
B) I can't use 3 bands in Round 1
C) Good time to test the waters, and check/verify what kind of music is going to do well
D) I've got more than 8 rounds of music to share (assuming I make it past the 'cut' round)

@ Brent... no use in trying to rock-block you.  That well of yours runs way too deep.

Hmmm....I happily stand corrected.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 15, 2016, 05:17:42 AM
Reason why I sent Redemption so early is because it was only matter of time until someone else notice they're not on Evermind's list.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 15, 2016, 05:21:20 AM
Just remembered the perfect song for round 4, I'm no longer worried about having sent A Little Piece of Heaven, just hope Evermind doesn't knwo this one as it's fairly popular.

Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 05:24:59 AM
Reason why I sent Redemption so early is because it was only matter of time until someone else notice they're not on Evermind's list.

Great pick.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 15, 2016, 05:33:42 AM
Just remembered the perfect song for round 4, I'm no longer worried about having sent A Little Piece of Heaven, just hope Evermind doesn't knwo this one as it's fairly popular.
I just listened to A Little Piece of Heaven again. If that's not the greatest love story ever :lol
I liked it :tup vocals are really great
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: lonestar on February 15, 2016, 11:05:06 AM
Can never go wrong with Redemption. I however have sent them in a roulette before, so they are self banned for me anyways.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 12:07:42 PM
Reason why I sent Redemption so early is because it was only matter of time until someone else notice they're not on Evermind's list.

I noticed and actually PM'd him to see if it wasn't a mistake.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 15, 2016, 12:45:51 PM
Do you have something against layered music in general, or just in rock/metal, Ev?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 12:50:50 PM

A) I can be a big dick  :biggrin:

(https://i.imgflip.com/mj9k6.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2016, 01:01:38 PM
hhhmmmm... I'm reminded of something I saw in a roulette not too long ago. 

(https://img.memecdn.com/and-he-ate-all-of-the-cake-the-nerve_o_1297639.jpg)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/21/2106cec26603ac2b5572b675ac138295443fa194a6d4a367aca323db675b66d4.jpg)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Elite on February 15, 2016, 02:54:05 PM
I have sent.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 15, 2016, 02:59:29 PM
I have sent.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Elite on February 15, 2016, 03:01:06 PM
Good!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 15, 2016, 03:02:47 PM
:P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 16, 2016, 01:54:56 AM
Sorry for my absence yesterday evening, I was still recovering after all the awesomeness of Steven Wilson's show.

Do you have something against layered music in general, or just in rock/metal, Ev?

I haven't heard a lot of layered music I guess.

So, I've got everyone except 425. Since I have a day-off and I've got nothing better to do, I'll start listening today to speed up the process, and just listen to his song more when he sends it in.

Also, two players sent the same song again. Are you guys kidding me or what? :lol

Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Bolsters on February 16, 2016, 01:58:35 AM
Also, two players sent the same song again. Are you guys kidding me or what? :lol
Who was it this time?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Colour overcomes this night (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 16, 2016, 02:06:09 AM
Also, two players sent the same song again. Are you guys kidding me or what? :lol
Who was it this time?

I just informed them via PM. If they want, they can reveal it here, if not, well you guys will have to wait until the results.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Evermind on February 16, 2016, 11:41:27 AM
After some listens, I've got to say this round has some really good stuff (maybe not anything on Redemption level, but still, really good), and some songs I thought weren't that good at all. If these first listens are any indication, I will have a very difficult time choosing which two participants should proceed into the main rounds. But the gap between good songs and not-so-good songs is definitely wider this time.

425, it would've been great if you sent something until tomorrow evening.

I'm aiming on posting tidbits either today or tomorrow evening and the results should be up on Friday / Saturday. I've got something that's probably going to keep me occupied at Friday and the rest of weekend, but I'll do my best to deliver the results on time.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 16, 2016, 12:17:17 PM
Damn, nothing as good as the 9.5 song from last round, but the gap between the good and bad has become bigger? Expecting some juicy lower tier scores  :corn
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: 425 on February 16, 2016, 02:18:40 PM
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and bow out. I don't have the time right now to commit to playing in another roulette, and I don't think I have enough to send you anyway. The spots should go to people who have stuff to send and the time to dedicate to this, and between the Roulette Championship, Sacul's roulette and the Iron Maiden Survivor, plus real life things, I don't have that time. Thanks for the opportunity! I'll be following for sure.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2016, 02:41:24 PM
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and bow out. I don't have the time right now to commit to playing in another roulette, and I don't think I have enough to send you anyway. The spots should go to people who have stuff to send and the time to dedicate to this, and between the Roulette Championship, Sacul's roulette and the Iron Maiden Survivor, plus real life things, I don't have that time. Thanks for the opportunity! I'll be following for sure.

I like how you listed 'real life things' last.  Good old DTF!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: lonestar on February 16, 2016, 09:50:35 PM
 :lol


It's all "this roulette, that roulette, and a survivor.....oh yeah, and bills and shit..."
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2016, 04:11:20 AM
:lol


It's all "this roulette, that roulette, and a survivor.....oh yeah, and bills and shit..."

Yeah, what's that other annoying thing I have to do that I can't remember?  Oh yeah, work, shit.  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2016, 07:40:48 AM
Finally in biznezz here ............got 3 or 4 definites tucked away (subject to cock blocks).   With that in mind ,what sort of weighting are you giving the EP round?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2016, 07:49:36 AM
Finally in biznezz here ............got 3 or 4 definites tucked away (subject to cock blocks).   With that in mind ,what sort of weighting are you giving the EP round?

I'm still thinking about it, but it will be something like 15 or 20 points for the actual songs (ranking every song and then getting the average score) and 5 points for how well EP worked overall. Something along the lines of what Train of Naught did in his roulette. So if you don't want to depend on that silly flow thing you better get a solid five-points lead before Round 8.

Don't forget that you will be able to earn maximum 20 points in Round 7 too, 10 points for each of two songs.

And on a somewhat unrelated note, tidbits are coming up in a few hours.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2016, 07:55:28 AM
. So if you don't want to depend on that silly flow thing you better get a solid five-points lead before Round 8.


I'm never going to be forgiven for failing to specifically rate EP flow in my roulette  :'(   :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2016, 08:03:36 AM
It's not like that, really. :lol Everyone rates whatever he wants to rate. You wanted to get a bunch of great songs in your EP so you rated songs only, I want to get something that can be listened as a whole so I'm going to give out a small amount of points for the flow too.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Crow on February 17, 2016, 08:48:20 AM
I'm still thinking about it, but it will be something like 15 or 20 points for the actual songs (ranking every song and then getting the average score) and 5 points for how well EP worked overall. Something along the lines of what Train of Naught did in his roulette. [/quote[

hey, give credit where credit is due, he stole that from me :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2016, 08:58:43 AM
I wasn't giving a credit, I was providing an example, and his roulette was the most recent. If anything, we all should give 425 a credit for the EP-round idea itself, I think he was the first who came up with that.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Sacul on February 17, 2016, 09:07:41 AM
Once it's on the internet, it doesn't belong to you anymore :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Crow on February 17, 2016, 09:09:09 AM
i'm on the internet

do i not belong to myself

is my whole existence a lie
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: Tyrias on February 17, 2016, 09:14:30 AM
i'm on the internet

do i not belong to myself

is my whole existence a lie

Yes it is. What where you thinking?

Also, looking forward to the tidbits.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
Also, looking forward to the tidbits.

Here they are!

Before the roulette started, I was sure I’ll just eliminate you and get on with it, and you just had to go ahead and make everything way more difficult for me.

So, how come Parama knows songs like this one but almost always ends up sending me some crap?

If there was the 13th spot in the main competition I would’ve probably let you participate just so you could send me all these artists, but alas, there isn’t one.

Uh… yeah, no. I stand corrected and I take my words back. Thanks?

Both the groovy bass in the beginning and the grinding riff in the very end were quite unexpected for me, to be honest.

After the first round, I was sure I’ll just eliminate you and get on with it, and you just had to go ahead and make everything way more difficult for me.

Results probably this Friday. I'm sure about one person who will definitely make it and still undecided on the other one.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Elite on February 17, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Ouch :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tyrias on February 17, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
I hope that the tidbit about Parama's song is mine. It definitely is if you bothered to read his signature and paid attention to the lyrics of the song I sent. :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2016, 09:50:59 AM
I hope that the tidbit about Parama's song is mine. It definitely is if you bothered to read his signature and paid attention to the lyrics of the song I sent. :P

You'll probably find your answer in the thread's current title. :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Sacul on February 17, 2016, 10:00:12 AM
I hope mine is the first one.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tyrias on February 17, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
I hope that the tidbit about Parama's song is mine. It definitely is if you bothered to read his signature and paid attention to the lyrics of the song I sent. :P

You'll probably find your answer in the thread's current title. :P

I was pretty sure you'd listened to the lyrics, but I didn’t know if you're one of those people who just ignores signatures. Thanks for the confirmation though ::).
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Elite on February 17, 2016, 11:17:52 AM
I think the last one is mine. It would make sense, though I could be very wrong. Based on these tidbits, I'm definitely not the person who's definitely in the next round.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 17, 2016, 12:33:59 PM
I don't even know did you include my song but if you did this is it:
Quote
Both the groovy bass in the beginning and the grinding riff in the very end were quite unexpected for me, to be honest.
Also, I'd like to hear your comment on video. It's not made for that song but it matches it perfectly.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 17, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
If he did include mine, but I doubt it, it would be the fourth, cause that's the most WTF reaction. The video doesn't really help in that regard either.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 17, 2016, 12:40:19 PM
If he did include mine, but I doubt it, it would be the fourth, cause that's the most WTF reaction. The video doesn't really help in that regard either.
I actually hope Evermind doesn't like my song too much :lol that way I would regret not saving it for other round
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 17, 2016, 12:44:58 PM
For me it's whatever, if he likes it I'm happy but I won't regret sending it right now because I would never send a song like this in Evermind's roulette when it actually counts.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 17, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
For me it's whatever, if he likes it I'm happy but I won't regret sending it right now because I would never send a song like this in Evermind's roulette when it actually counts.
Yeah, right, I wouldn't either. Of course it would be cool those two songs are his new favorites but I doubt it and this way #noregrets :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: splent on February 17, 2016, 01:10:58 PM
I bet I'm person 13  :'(
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: lonestar on February 17, 2016, 02:36:03 PM
I bet I'm person 13  :'(

You are not a number, you are a free man.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Big Hath on February 17, 2016, 03:00:18 PM
heh
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2016, 09:45:47 PM
I bet I'm person 13  :'(

You are not a number, you are a free man.

Excellent.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: splent on February 17, 2016, 09:53:42 PM
I bet I'm person 13  :'(

You are not a number, you are a free man.

Excellent.

I'm person 13 and prisoner 24601
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Crow on February 17, 2016, 10:50:24 PM
i mean, i'd have sent the song from that artist i received in my roulette if i was going to send anything, but for whatever reason i prefer to send artists i discovered either myself or outside of dtf because otherwise i feel like i'm artist-stealing  :lol

also i should change my sig just to confuse everyone  :corn
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 18, 2016, 02:40:51 AM
Also, I'd like to hear your comment on video. It's not made for that song but it matches it perfectly.

I stopped watching when he chopped his own tongue, sorry. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 18, 2016, 02:43:51 AM
Tomi sent Korn - Right Now confirmed
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 18, 2016, 03:15:01 AM
Also, I'd like to hear your comment on video. It's not made for that song but it matches it perfectly.

I stopped watching when he chopped his own tongue, sorry. :lol
There is part where he opens his belly and pulls all internal organs out to find that snake :lol
Tomi sent Korn - Right Now confirmed
I watched that video now and I have to say it's equally sick :D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Sacul on February 18, 2016, 03:35:45 AM
Snake? Huh, I guess you didn't send Work Work by clipping. then :justjen
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 18, 2016, 03:46:41 AM
Snake? Huh, I guess you didn't send Work Work by clipping. then :justjen
It's cartoon video, you'll see it soon :) (I think, Evermind said results will be there in two days?)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Elite on February 18, 2016, 05:04:11 AM
I have never even watched the video for the song I sent. Sorry if it's terrible :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My heart did not make it back with me (Tidbits)
Post by: Evermind on February 18, 2016, 09:06:47 AM
Also, I'd like to hear your comment on video. It's not made for that song but it matches it perfectly.

I stopped watching when he chopped his own tongue, sorry. :lol
There is part where he opens his belly and pulls all internal organs out to find that snake :lol

Good thing I stopped watching it then. :lol

I have never even watched the video for the song I sent. Sorry if it's terrible :lol

Honestly I didn't too. I've acquired an mp3 file for this song.

And yeah, I'll start doing the write-ups now and I'm still aiming for posting results tomorrow.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Through bumps and cracks (Listening)
Post by: 425 on February 18, 2016, 11:10:59 AM
I wasn't giving a credit, I was providing an example, and his roulette was the most recent. If anything, we all should give 425 a credit for the EP-round idea itself, I think he was the first who came up with that.

I'm pretty sure I came up with it, though I can't say for certain that someone else didn't do it a while back and it just stuck in the back of my head and came back out as my own idea. I don't want to wrongly say I was definitely the first to do it and have someone go all Roger Waters and break my fucking fingers with a piano lid. :lol But I'm pretty sure I came up with it, as an expansion of something that someone else did where they had everyone send them two songs in one round.

In any case, I'm just happy to see that the EP round has become a trend. I had a lot of fun doing it in my roulette, I had fun winning on it in Train of Naught's roulette, and it's been interesting to see what others have done with the format.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 18, 2016, 11:36:48 AM
Yeah the EP round is a lot of fun to host. I really liked the thing where mine was basically one big 80 - 85 min album, but it honestly can't be done when you have too much participants remaining. Mine never felt like it dragged though, and the album seemed shorter than many 70 minute albums I've heard.

Excited for the results! I'm rooting for anyone that will be likely to do worse than me because I don't want to end up last. Go Sacul!  :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Evermind on February 18, 2016, 11:41:56 AM
Excited for the results! I'm rooting for anyone that will be likely to do worse than me because I don't want to end up last. Go Sacul!  :P

:rollin

I wasn't giving a credit, I was providing an example, and his roulette was the most recent. If anything, we all should give 425 a credit for the EP-round idea itself, I think he was the first who came up with that.

I'm pretty sure I came up with it, though I can't say for certain that someone else didn't do it a while back and it just stuck in the back of my head and came back out as my own idea. I don't want to wrongly say I was definitely the first to do it and have someone go all Roger Waters and break my fucking fingers with a piano lid. :lol But I'm pretty sure I came up with it, as an expansion of something that someone else did where they had everyone send them two songs in one round.

I'm also pretty sure that I came up with posting the first impressions in each round, but, yeah, you never know. I don't play piano though so I guess I'm safe.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2016, 11:45:41 AM
I'll take credit for the idea since none of you Nancy's will.  In my second Roulette, the final round had people send up to 20 minutes of music from one band.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 03:15:47 PM
Ruslan, I've lost track of time, when's the official round one looking to start?  How much time have I got roughly?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: 425 on February 18, 2016, 04:50:29 PM
I'll take credit for the idea since none of you Nancy's will.  In my second Roulette, the final round had people send up to 20 minutes of music from one band.

That's it! Yeah, I had definitely lurked your roulette and seen that, and then I decided to add the twist of requiring multiple artists.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Evermind on February 18, 2016, 10:08:25 PM
Ruslan, I've lost track of time, when's the official round one looking to start?  How much time have I got roughly?

Round 1 will start this evening, right after I post the qualifiers results.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 10:15:32 PM
Oh shit, that quick, righto then.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Big Hath on February 18, 2016, 10:20:13 PM
Evermind ain't foolin' around with this shit.  This is serious business.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 10:22:14 PM
Evermind ain't foolin' around with this shit.  This is serious business.

Yeah, obviously.  :lol 

Alright, will look at the banned lists and try and find something tonight.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2016, 12:19:57 AM
If the calendar is right it is our host's birthday.   Happy Birthday mate

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HD9Cgq2eUtQ/VEKvNyWgawI/AAAAAAAAAVU/yr31h6-RjNc/s1600/black%2Bmetal%2Bbirthday.jpg)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Bolsters on February 19, 2016, 12:31:17 AM
Hopefully you have received the gift of songs that don't suck. :tup
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 01:14:28 AM
The calendar is right indeed, thank you guys! Nice pic, Brent. :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 04:20:07 AM
Immortal.  :metal

Happy birthday Ruslan.  :yarr
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Elite on February 19, 2016, 04:45:14 AM
Happy birthday :D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 19, 2016, 06:28:56 AM
Happy birthday :)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Tyrias on February 19, 2016, 06:39:29 AM
All the best for your birthday! :D
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 19, 2016, 08:20:15 AM
Happy birthday Russian! I'm honored to have my fantastic song being rated and possibly shamed on your birthday tonight.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 11:37:42 AM
Thank you everyone! As I said in my own DTF Happy Birthday thread (it still thrills me I finally have one! :lol ) it really means a lot to me.

Now, regarding the results. I've made a decision who will make it and who won't (to be clear, I've made it this afternoon listening to your songs at work while I was still sober), and now I only have to finish five write-ups and post the results. I'm a bit drunk though, so some of the write-ups might make less sense then others. Oh well, I can't help it!

I'll try to deliver results in an hour or possibly two.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Sacul on February 19, 2016, 11:51:06 AM
Hope you're drunk enough to give my song a very high score  :tup

Happy birthday too :P
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 19, 2016, 11:52:45 AM
Thank you everyone! As I said in my own DTF Happy Birthday thread (it still thrills me I finally have one! :lol ) it really means a lot to me.

Now, regarding the results. I've made a decision who will make it and who won't (to be clear, I've made it this afternoon listening to your songs at work while I was still sober), and now I only have to finish five write-ups and post the results. I'm a bit drunk though, so some of the write-ups might make less sense then others. Oh well, I can't help it!

I'll try to deliver results in an hour or possibly two.
Just don't mix it up :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Are you one of them? (Results Friday evening)
Post by: ErHaO on February 19, 2016, 12:39:03 PM
Happy birthday Ruslan! I hope these guys made you listen to proper tunes on your day of celebration.

And by all means mess up the scores  :lol  It will add to your roulette's drama and excitement  :corn
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 01:14:35 PM
Thank you everyone again for the birthday wishes guys, you're the best.

But while you're all the best, only two people can join the main competition in these qualifiers. Here are the results.

(Damn, but this new title makes me laugh alright. :lol )

Preliminary Round #2 Results:

Into the Storm:

Bolsters: Pantommind – Walk On

Sometimes I like my music more intricate, and sometimes something straightforward, heavy and epic works best with me. This song is a perfect example of the latter, because while it’s not that fantastic as Redemption song from the previous round, it’s still mighty awesome and a clear standout from the rest of the round.

First off, both the groovy bass in the beginning and the grinding riff in the very end were quite unexpected for me, to be honest, but they work so well in the big picture. Epic sounding synths and the ringing keyboards beneath, soaring and a bit gritty vocalist does incredible job here, despite the vocal melodies being on a simplistic side. Some metal songs in this vein often try to include some quiet part in the middle which might fit or might sound out of place, and while this songs kind of did go this route too, it feels perfectly in context with the rest of this track, and somehow doesn’t detract the pace from this seemingly relentless rocker. Also, I love that (is this guitar or keys?) small frantic instrumental part beneath the vocals starting at 5:24.

Second fantastic song in a row, and a winner of the round to boot? You’re in without a fucking doubt. (9/10 – closer to 9.5, actually, but not quite)

Big Hath: Dynazty – Starlight

This song is significantly shorter than the one Bolsters send, so there’s no surprise it manages to collect all the “straightforward, heavy and epic” qualities and compress them to the highest concentration. It’s easy to overblow this quality by making the song too straightforward (see Chad’s entry) or too heavy, but this song has it all in nearly perfect amounts.

Less than four minutes long, this tune manages to include a short spoken intro and dissolves into a full-blown metal paradise for me right away, with crunching guitar riffs and unnaturally quick keyboards underneath. The way the singer does the vocal melodies on the verses, slamming each word before getting to the end of the line and going more melodic there (see “Push me in the back and you’ll be treading on a crack in the i-i-i-i-ice!") is quite appealing, but of course if you want to fit so much musical awesomeness in less than four minutes, you’ve got to speed up your vocal delivery, so it’s all natural. The chorus is more melodic and provides a relief from the pounding verses.

This is a great song overall, but not quite on the Walk On level. I’d say this song is tied up with two tracks that’ll follow below – and I actually might like one of them just a bit more – but your very strong entry for the first preliminary round does the trick and allows you to proceed into the main competition. (9/10 – solid 9)

Into the Void:

Scorpion: Myrath – Madness

You thought I’ll like this song and damn you were right, this is right up my alley. Dramatic keyboards and synths, proggy riffs, eastern influences, all the things I love are there. The whole song is very consistent, with best parts being the choruses (every time they roll with “My disbelief” and graciously end with “into the madness” I can’t help but praise this song) and the instrumental break (damn, this is where the eastern influences shine, and I love this kind of things in songs); the weakest parts are probably the vocal melodies on the verses, since I still can’t remember what they’re like after a good number of listens. Still, the strongest parts prevail here, and even where the glorious enticing part ends, we get a great keyboard / guitar exchange (or were it all just keyboard?), and then the song returns to a main theme. I think it could use another chorus, but still, it’s a fantastic song.

After the first round, I was nearly sure I’ll just eliminate you and get on with it – this Heart of Cygnus song didn’t impress me – and you just had to go ahead and make everything way more difficult for me. And, well, I’ve made my decision and I have no regrets, but damn, were you close to making it. In fact, you know, I guess it’s not any consolation for you, but I liked this song just a bit more than Starlight – it’s just Big Hath was more consistent in his entries, while your entry for the first preliminary round failed to interest me that much. I’m definitely going to check out more Myrath, and I thank you for this, but unfortunately, that’s about it for you in this roulette. Sorry, but you’re out. (9/10 – closer to 9.25, actually)

Elite: Dynazty – Starlight

(see Big Hath's write-up above)

Well, as I said, this is a great song, but it’s only on the third place in this round, so with your first round entry I didn’t really like, there was no chance you’ll get in. Blame either me for my poor tastes, or Bolsters and Scorpion for sending better songs. Sorry Richard, you’re out. (9/10 – solid 9)

(That’s what you get for eliminating me for that Serious Black song in the second round.)

Sacul: Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy Jr

I guess this was the folk ballad with breathy vocals then? Well, this is wonderful, and yet this is so creepy to the point of being quite disturbing I can’t help but just ponder this contrast incredulously. I feel everything connects in this song, breathy vocals work fantastic in context, the seemingly beautiful acoustic guitar / piano work hides and covers the true song’s and the protagonist nature, and it gets more intense when it’s needed. I think the vocal melodies in the verses could be a bit better (“for his humor and his con-ver-sa-ation” feels a bit strained, for example), but when this song gets amazing, it just hits me hard, especially on the “Oh my God” part. But this must be the most disturbing song in this roulette so far. I know that A7X song featured gore and all, but this… this feels too real and that’s why it’s so creepy. And to think, this could’ve been such a nice folky ballad.

You really had a disadvantage of playing in my first roulette, because well, you sent some music I didn’t like at all back then, and before the roulette started, I was sure I’ll just eliminate you and get on with it, and you just had to go ahead and make everything way more difficult for me.
Apparently you learned something, because both your entries here are probably better than anything you’ve sent me before. Sadly, it’s not enough for you to make it, because some people here just outperformed you, but I really enjoyed both your songs. That’s something, right? Sorry Lucas, but this time you’re out. I do wonder if you had any more gems like this one for me, though. (8.5/10 – closer to 9, in fact)

Tyrias: Bent Knee – Battle Creek

This song is so polarizing for me unlike any other in this round. I mean, I can find some great qualities in every song, and I can point out the things I dislike in almost every song too; but in this song the differences are just startling. And the interesting thing, I don’t dislike any section of the song particularly; I think all the parts just doesn’t work together as a whole song. Probably it happens because as you said, the song reaches its climax in the middle, but the not-quite-traditional song structure doesn’t work for me this time. Everything until 3:15 is just sublime – the intro, the quiet build-up and when the tension is released with those incredible female vocals – this is perfection right there, and then it takes a significant drop in quality. The second time she delivers the chorus (if you can call this a chorus?), it’s calmer and it just doesn’t work for me at all, compared to the magnificent powerful delivery a few minutes back. I probably would’ve loved this song more if it ended somewhere around 3:35 with a fade-out. Blasphemy, I know.

Well, it seems you also took your previous experience into account and were sending the songs for this roulette accordingly, because both your entries were really strong – it’s just the competition was too strong. This song and the Brand New ones were quite interesting to say the least, and in fact I liked how different they were from anything else I received in these rounds. And while we’re speaking of this, how come Parama knows songs like this one but almost always ends up sending me some crap?

Anyway, you didn’t make it to the main competition this time, but I’ll consider inviting you for the next installment, if we live to see it. (8.5/10)

splent: Alan Parsons Project – I Wouldn’t Want to Be Like You

This one is another 70s song from you, and while I really liked Kansas and I generally encouraged people to send songs from this period in my first roulette – hell, Seneca scored a perfect 10/10 score with Journey – these can also be quite hit or miss with me too, and unfortunately for you, this is a miss.

I guess the problem is just I can’t find anything to like in this song. It’s not bad by any means, and it has some nice bass hooks, cool solos too, chill vocals, all that, but for some reason it all feels bland for me (well, except bass, the bass line is one thing I’ve come to appreciate here). Thinking about it, I think this song is just too happy and too “I-don’t-give-a-fuck”-ish for me. It’s quite difficult to explain what exactly is wrong with it, but it just didn’t click with me.

Splent, well… if there was the 13th spot in the main competition I would’ve probably let you participate just so you could send me all these artists from 70s, because I really want to fill these gaps in my list, but alas, there isn’t one. I might think of inviting you to the next installment though, or maybe I’ll just host more rounds where everyone will be sending older songs… I’ll have to think about it, but for this roulette, you’re out. I’m sorry. (6/10)

Somewhere Far Beyond:

jingle.boy: The Chronicles Project – Prologue: Our Souls / Forever

Another cockblock from our self-admitted dick player, this one starts with the spoken prologue that reminds me heavily of Vanden Plas’ Vision 1ne, only not that well done. The tension-building orchestration can’t hold the candle to the chilling piano runs featured in Vanden Plas’ song intro, but still, the prologue is alright… and honestly, the song that follows is good, but that’s about it. I still don’t know what turned off me from this song so much, because by all my standards this should be a solid 8.5 or more, but it’s not. It’s not vocals, because they’re the high point here; and it’s not vocal melodies either. After five or more listens, I think I’m a bit irritated by the keyboards sound, and also the fairly usual double-bass chorus could use some spicing up too. Solid song, but that’s it.

I’m not sure if you actually cockblocked someone with it or saved them from a potential bullet… I mean, I should love this song, but I’m rather underwhelmed by it. I guess it’s probably just that case where my head says one thing but my heart says another. (7.5/10)

Tomislav95: Puscifer – Potions

You know, I like to think I’m an attentive listener, so when I listen to the roulette songs, I try to really focus on the tune I’m spinning right now so I take in more and able to remember and judge the songs better. That really doesn’t bode well for you when after a few listens the only thing I remember from your song is a bass line. I mean, other than the guy chopping his own tongue in the video.

This is like that Alan Parsons Project song, only it’s darker, more atmospheric and fuck I just alt-tabbed to the video in the middle of the song and why the hell did I need to do that. So, well, this isn’t exceptionally bad (see the next song for this!), but this is also quite unremarkable on my account. Somewhat interesting, but not something I want to revisit. Best parts are the bass and the atmosphere created by the instruments. Actually, now that I think of it, if you cut the vocals, this song would lose nothing in my book. (6/10)

Train of Naught: Native Construct – Mute


And let’s finally dig into the biggest disaster of this round! I don’t even know where to start here. The fact this song is currently playing in my headphones doesn’t help – my thoughts are striving to be just like this very song now, which means a jumbled knot of ideas leading nowhere. I mean, this song just doesn’t mean any sense for me even after a futile numerous listens. There’s that loud part in the beginning, then there’s that less loud part, and everything is actually alright and still listenable until they go into the quiet part which is, honestly, is just annoying as hell and adds nothing to the song in my book. I hated it on the first listen and it didn’t improve at all; it gets better with “I can finally feel”, but wait, what is it, Evermind actually started enjoying our song? Fuck you, get this full-blown cookie-monster blast beats part.

Remember how I said I want to check this album out because it has a beautiful album cover? Well, uh… yeah, no. I stand corrected and I take my words back. Imagine what a disaster this would’ve been, I see this album in the record store, buy it and it’s full of the songs like this one. And you saved me from it! Thanks?

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean any offense, but you said something along the lines you think this song is cohesive and these guys are masterminds. Well, I think this song is a huge disjointed mess. (3.5/10)

Bands added to banned list:

Pantommind
Dynazty
Myrath
Sufjan Stevens
Bent Knee
The Chronicles Project

The list of participants (also available in the second post)

Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 01:15:19 PM
Round 1: Open

We now have out 12 participants and we can begin the main competition! Eight of you definitely should be familiar with my tastes, and the four newcomers probably have some grasp on them too, otherwise they wouldn't have been there. I expect no less than a top-notch competition from now on. The twelve of you have the best tastes, in my opinion, so now it's all up to you! Make your intentions clear in the very first round!

This round is open, and the time-limit for this round is 10 minutes.

RJ, if you want to use the song you've sent me earlier, just tell me, I have the link saved.
Mason, I'll be using the song you sent me before, if you want to change it, PM me.
Brent, you obviously need to send something else. Cockblock machine got you on this one I guess.

Send your songs!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Scorpion on February 19, 2016, 01:17:56 PM
Damn. :(

Oh well, can't be helped. I'm glad you liked the song anyway.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 19, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 19, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Awesome, glad you liked 2 seconds of it!

Will send soon, now it's time for something serious.

EDIT: Fuck. Myrath banned? That would've been my solid round 1 artist  :'( And pretty much the only one I was certain of doing atleast great.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 01:26:40 PM
Awesome, glad you liked 2 seconds of it!

Will send soon, now it's time for something serious.

Well, the orchestral sounds in the beginning were good too.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 19, 2016, 01:37:53 PM
Brent.... you can thank me later.  I'm shocked you didn't enjoy this given how much Vasilis Georgiou = Roy Khan.

Let's get it on boys.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Elite on February 19, 2016, 01:38:03 PM
What a shame. It had to be the best song of the round and it was.. almost. I should have sent that song right away in the first round. I guess I was beyond redemption (:neverusethis:) after that first round failure. Thanks for at least having me send two songs and good luck to all of the other participants who are still in.

Which leads me to: what the hell was ToN thinking? :lol
And; I was tossing between that exact same Myrath song and the song I sent. I guess it wouldn't have mattered really.



(That’s what you get for eliminating me for that Serious Black song in the second round.)

Are we doing this now though? :lol



Enjoy the rest of your birthday :)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 19, 2016, 01:44:05 PM
Which leads me to: what the hell was ToN thinking? :lol

Well he was intrigued by the album cover and I had a free pass, I figured it was time to raise some hell in this motherfucker. No more fucking around though  :lol
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
Which leads me to: what the hell was ToN thinking? :lol

Well he was intrigued by the album cover and I had a free pass, I figured it was time to raise some hell in this motherfucker. No more fucking around though  :lol

They should've called the album "Ka-Ra-Zu Ni-Mu Pa-Tu" and have some weird shit on the cover instead. I wouldn't have spared a second glance for it then.

(That’s what you get for eliminating me for that Serious Black song in the second round.)

Are we doing this now though? :lol

Enjoy the rest of your birthday :)

No, it was just a random thought I had. :lol

Yeah, I think I'll just go to sleep now. The funny thing is, the Saturday tomorrow is a working day in Russia this year (but we won't work at Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, so there's that). That means I've got about five hours of sleep left. :-\

Anyway, thank you guys again. Looking forward for your songs, or for your contributions to this thread if you're eliminated.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: lonestar on February 19, 2016, 01:52:48 PM
Yeah, go ahead and use that track bud, and happy birthday :)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 19, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Which leads me to: what the hell was ToN thinking? :lol

Well he was intrigued by the album cover and I had a free pass, I figured it was time to raise some hell in this motherfucker. No more fucking around though  :lol

They should've called the album "Ka-Ra-Zu Ni-Mu Pa-Tu" and have some weird shit on the cover instead. I wouldn't have spared a second glance for it then.

 :rollin I have that shit stuck in my head pretty much all the time. I really like the relaxing stuff they do in the background during it, but I guess it can get pretty frustrating  :lol Ca-ra-zu, ni-mu-pa-tu, he has, cre-ated, us from a point of view, we did not choose, we are, all broken, siiiingiing especially those awkward pauses in the sentence.

Also sent! 
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Tyrias on February 19, 2016, 02:01:36 PM
Well, it's a shame I can't send you random shit outside of your comfort zone, but it’s your decision in the end. I'll still follow and see how many bands that get sent I know. I'd be surprised if it was more than one per round :lol.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2016, 02:39:56 PM
Damn, I was going to use Pantommind in Round 1. Would've sent Down To The End, but Walk On was a close second choice.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: ErHaO on February 19, 2016, 02:45:02 PM
I will send my entry tomorrow morning!

And one band knocked from my reserve list, Myrath. But I hadn't planned sending anything by them (yet), so the overall cockblock damage was minor in the prelimenary rounds. Myrath is a cool band though, looking forward to their upcoming new album.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: splent on February 19, 2016, 02:52:35 PM
 I knew that comment was mine! Oh well… It's all good. Thanks for the possible invite on the next one,  it's probably a good thing that I am not playing this round because I don't have a whole lot of time on my hands right now.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 19, 2016, 03:02:32 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty and fuck Chad for trying to cut me off, even though it didn't take that high of a score (surprised at that)

I'll send soon!
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty and fuck Chad for trying to cut me off, even though it didn't take that high of a score (surprised at that)

I believe you won Round 1 with that song in The TAC Roulette.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 19, 2016, 03:08:27 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty and fuck Chad for trying to cut me off, even though it didn't take that high of a score (surprised at that)

I'll send soon!

No more surprised than I am!  You should be thanking me, not fucking me.   :biggrin:

BTW... great call on Pantommind and Dynazty.  Great bands/albums/tracks.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 19, 2016, 03:19:30 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty and fuck Chad for trying to cut me off, even though it didn't take that high of a score (surprised at that)

I believe you won Round 1 with that song in The TAC Roulette.

Indeed  :tup

Fuck the people who sent Dynazty and fuck Chad for trying to cut me off, even though it didn't take that high of a score (surprised at that)

I'll send soon!

You should be thanking me, not fucking me.   :biggrin:

Is there a difference? :zydar:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 03:49:58 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty

Indeed. Was going to use this song in round fucking 1.  :facepalm:

Ruslan, my attention span is in full flight as per usual, but how are we sending you songs?  And when is the cut off you want round 1 songs by?
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 19, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty

Indeed. Was going to use this song in round fucking 1.  :facepalm:

Ruslan, my attention span is in full flight as per usual, but how are we sending you songs?  And when is the cut off you want round 1 songs by?

You missed it already.  You're out; 425 is in.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 04:00:02 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty

Indeed. Was going to use this song in round fucking 1.  :facepalm:

Ruslan, my attention span is in full flight as per usual, but how are we sending you songs?  And when is the cut off you want round 1 songs by?

You missed it already.  You're out; 425 is in.   :biggrin:

Oh shit!  I am slow.  :hat
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 19, 2016, 04:19:04 PM
Damn. :(

Oh well, can't be helped. I'm glad you liked the song anyway.
This. :sadpanda:

Well, I hope you end up checking both of those Marketa Irglova and Sufjan Stevens albums, they're pretty ballad-driven and beautiful for the most part  :smiley:
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Bolsters on February 19, 2016, 04:50:50 PM
Really glad I got through. I'm set in which band I want to send for the first round but not the song, I'm going to listen to them now, make a decision, and send.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2016, 04:57:01 PM
Awesome work Chad..............glad to see some of the obvious ones cock blocked before we even start :yeahbaby:

I'm away for the weekend now - I have put a few mp3s on my phone and will see if I can hopefully figure out how to get one onto my cloud account.  It takes an important event like this for me to even use a smart phone  :lol   
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 04:59:42 PM
I'm out now until Sunday evening so I'll send then if that's cool.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2016, 05:30:31 PM
Sent my original choice (was convinced it would be sent in the prelims)
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 05:54:28 PM
Fuck the people who sent Dynazty

Indeed. Was going to use this song in round fucking 1.  :facepalm:

Ruslan, my attention span is in full flight as per usual, but how are we sending you songs?  And when is the cut off you want round 1 songs by?

I'm out now until Sunday evening so I'll send then if that's cool.

Nevermind all this bullshit.

Sent.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Crow on February 19, 2016, 07:06:08 PM
looool 3.5 i don't feel so bad anymore then
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 19, 2016, 07:16:25 PM
Native Construct are amazing, they're pretty much the only interesting prog metal band in like...


uh


Well, a pretty fuckin' long time, I guess.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Sacul on February 19, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
*since haken.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 19, 2016, 07:31:42 PM
I feel like there were a few after Haken, but I can't think of 'em right now, so maybe you're right.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2016, 10:04:24 PM
There's no real deadline for entries, just be reasonable about it. The faster I have them all, the better. I will be away at Monday and Tuesday, so there's that too.

I also think I've got more than half of the entries already. I'll read and answer your PM questions when I get back from work.

The Chronicles Project, yeah, I'm surprised too. All signs indicated it should've been right up my alley and somehow it wasn't.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Big Hath on February 19, 2016, 10:17:24 PM
sent round 1

FYI, I am out of town starting tomorrow through Thursday of next week.  So I may be a little late sending round 2 if this round happens to be a quick one.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 19, 2016, 10:20:11 PM
I'mgoing to roll with my song.  I think it's potentially cock blocking someone down the road, or at least it should be if the competition is up to snuff.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Train of Naught on February 20, 2016, 01:50:42 AM
Native Construct are amazing, they're pretty much the only interesting prog metal band in like...


uh


Well, a pretty fuckin' long time, I guess.
I agree (aboutthe amazing part, I still find a lot of prog metal bands interesting) but this IS an Evermind roulette, so yeah, I really didnt go in expecting much.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Evermind on February 20, 2016, 02:19:59 AM
Yeah, well, I'm glad you guys like them, but they're definitely not for me.

Meanwhile, it seems I've got everyone in except ErHaO, and he said he'll send his song this morning, so hopefully I will be able to start listening today. Great sending pace so far.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: jingle.boy on February 20, 2016, 04:52:43 AM
  • bl5150
  • lonestar
  • senecadawg2
  • Dr. DTVT
  • wolfking
  • ErHaO
  • jingle.boy
  • TAC
  • Tomislav95
  • Train of Naught
  • Bolsters
  • Big Hath

I just gotta say, this is could be the toughest group of participants I've ever been up against in a Roulette.  For my tastes in music, this is pretty much THE all-star lineup to go up against.  Whoever wins this thing is gonna earn the fuck out of their victory.  Hell, I'll be pleased if I make it past the cut line to the final two rounds.
Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
Post by: Tomislav95 on February 20, 2016, 05:23:54 AM
    • bl5150
    • lonestar
    • senecadawg2
    • Dr. DTVT
    • wolfking
    • ErHaO
    • jingle.boy
    • TAC
    • Tomislav95
    • Train of Naught
    • Bolsters
    • Big Hath

    I just gotta say, this is could be the toughest group of participants I've ever been up against in a Roulette.  For my tastes in music, this is pretty much THE all-star lineup to go up against.  Whoever wins this thing is gonna earn the fuck out of their victory.  Hell, I'll be pleased if I make it past the cut line to the final two rounds.
    And it's my pleasure, as roulette newbie, to play with all of you :)[/list]
    Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
    Post by: Train of Naught on February 20, 2016, 05:51:04 AM
    Same here.. I realize this will be one of the toughest roulettes I've been in, so no fucking around here.
    Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
    Post by: TAC on February 20, 2016, 10:25:33 AM
      • bl5150
      • lonestar
      • senecadawg2
      • Dr. DTVT
      • wolfking
      • ErHaO
      • jingle.boy
      • TAC
      • Tomislav95
      • Train of Naught
      • Bolsters
      • Big Hath

      I just gotta say, this is could be the toughest group of participants I've ever been up against in a Roulette.  For my tastes in music, this is pretty much THE all-star lineup to go up against.  Whoever wins this thing is gonna earn the fuck out of their victory.  Hell, I'll be pleased if I make it past the cut line to the final two rounds.

      Ditto![/list]
      Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
      Post by: Elite on February 20, 2016, 10:50:34 AM
      don't mind this post :|
      Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
      Post by: Evermind on February 20, 2016, 11:07:17 AM
      Okay, so I'm finishing my another listen to the new Avantasia and then I'm starting listening to this round songs. Casper, still waiting for your song.

      I'm looking at the list of participants and I'm looking at the list of the songs... this round is going to be really good.
      Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
      Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 20, 2016, 11:23:27 AM
      don't mind this post :|

      Fuck you I MIND IT!
      Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
      Post by: ErHaO on February 20, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
      Sorry! I will send it soon, I planned to send it way earlier, but am having some technal issues with the PC I stored the songs on  :-\ Turns out the machine doesn't like windows 10 all that much (or at least the primary settings). Otherwise I will search for a yt link now.

      Edit: aaaand, sent!

      Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
      Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2016, 03:15:23 AM
        • bl5150
        • lonestar
        • senecadawg2
        • Dr. DTVT
        • wolfking
        • ErHaO
        • jingle.boy
        • TAC
        • Tomislav95
        • Train of Naught
        • Bolsters
        • Big Hath

        I just gotta say, this is could be the toughest group of participants I've ever been up against in a Roulette.  For my tastes in music, this is pretty much THE all-star lineup to go up against.  Whoever wins this thing is gonna earn the fuck out of their victory.  Hell, I'll be pleased if I make it past the cut line to the final two rounds.

        Nicely said, and I agree.[/list]
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 21, 2016, 08:00:45 AM
        I'm two listens in, and I've got to say, I knew what I was doing with invites and these qualifiers. This round is mindblowingly full of win. Fantastic songs all around, gotta be one of the best rounds I've ever hosted. You guys blew it out of the park.

        As I said, I'll be away for the next two days. I will be able to keep listening to your songs in the evenings, but I probably won't be commenting here much. This round may take a bit longer than usual, but I'd say expect tidbits on Tuesday or Wednesday and results on Thursday or Friday.

        I'm going to do this so you won't sit here without any updates for three days though. Here's the songs that have been sent... some parts are blurred of course just so it's not a complete giveaway. Some of you might find your song though, and maybe recognize a few others too. The format is "Artist - Song's name", if it helps.

        (https://i.imgur.com/FZTGMtt.jpg)

        I don't know if there's any way to, uh, unblur this image in any graphic redactor, but if there is, don't use it. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
        Post by: Luoto on February 21, 2016, 08:05:32 AM
        Ever *****r  by ** *** ******* (:lol) is a great song, kudos to whoever sent it!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 21, 2016, 08:19:26 AM
        I recognize mine, the second one (invariably sent by Kade), and the last one - probably sent by Seneca.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 21, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
        I recognize mine, the second one (invariably sent by Kade), and the last one - probably sent by Seneca.
        I recognize mine. That's all! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 21, 2016, 09:28:02 AM
        Mine is the one the top of the list.  Either I'm winning the round so far, or it could be that I was just the first to send.

        Probably both though  :biggrin:

        Too bad all the band names were obliterated and we can't piece the mystery together sooner.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Unveiling my violent complexity (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 21, 2016, 09:31:51 AM
        Great idea Evermind! I like it, thoughI can't really figure any of them out.  :lol
        Ever *****r  by ** *** ******* (:lol) is a great song, kudos to whoever sent it!

        That would be mine, thanks  :tup hope he'll like it too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 21, 2016, 09:34:25 AM
        I think it's more fun if we know what other people sent, and then we can stew and second guess ourselves
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: lonestar on February 21, 2016, 10:36:02 AM
        I think it's more fun if we know what other people sent, and then we can stew and second guess ourselves

        Fucking brilliant idea.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Crow on February 21, 2016, 10:38:17 AM
        oh man, finally more song lyrics that were actually googleable  :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 21, 2016, 10:41:45 AM
        I've got two more pics with less blur and even less blur (and you can see bits of the band names on both), I've got them loaded on my phone and I plan to post them when I'm away to keep the discussion in this thread alive. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 21, 2016, 10:49:06 AM
        Neat.

        Plan on checking out some of my enemies' songs aswell moreso than normally because this is surely going to be one quality-stuffed roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 21, 2016, 10:58:52 AM
        Neat.

        Plan on checking out some of my enemies' songs aswell moreso than normally because this is surely going to be one quality-stuffed roulette.
        So we're all enemies now. Nice. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 21, 2016, 11:13:58 AM
        Neat.

        Plan on checking out some of my enemies' songs aswell moreso than normally because this is surely going to be one quality-stuffed roulette.
        So we're all enemies now. Nice. :lol

        It's like Sacul was prophetic sending that Marketa Irglova song (https://marketairglova.com/lyrics/time-immemorial-lyrics).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Sacul on February 21, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
         :hat
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 21, 2016, 11:37:11 AM
        Neat.

        Plan on checking out some of my enemies' songs aswell moreso than normally because this is surely going to be one quality-stuffed roulette.
        So we're all enemies now. Nice. :lol

        Well yeah, everywhere else we could remain friends, but in here, all hell will break loose  :metal

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aGsdoBDiXw
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 21, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
        Well I agree. I'm having another listen and I have no idea how I will rate the songs. Thankfully I didn't implement the ranking system with the best song getting 12, next one getting 11 and all down to 1. So many great songs in this batch. I know there will be at least one 9.5. This is one hell of a competition.

        I'll have plenty of time to listen in the upcoming two days, so for now I guess I'll go continue playing Witcher 3 instead. Another stellar thing I've bought due to one of our participants fawning all over it. I'm getting so DTF-dependable. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Crow on February 21, 2016, 11:55:04 AM
        i can't wait for 2019, when people start uploading their brains to websites
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 21, 2016, 12:25:21 PM
        I'll have plenty of time to listen in the upcoming two days, so for now I guess I'll go continue playing Witcher 3 instead. Another stellar thing I've bought due to one of our participants fawning all over it. I'm getting so DTF-dependable. :lol

        I think I'm about 1/2 thru now.  The only thing that is annoying is the length and required interaction in the cut-scenes.  I "played" for about 2 hours yesterday, and really didn't do my playing.   :lol

        I'm gonna have to go for 4 days without it after today.  Unpleasant stuff happening tomorrow morning, then maybe Nightwish in the evening, then traveling for work - first time in 3 months!  Not home until Thursday night.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 21, 2016, 12:33:09 PM
        Looking forward to listening to other contributions as well. But it seems this roulette won't allow for the slips like I had last time, and I fully expect a rapidly tightening banned list. It will be challenging indeed.

        I'll have plenty of time to listen in the upcoming two days, so for now I guess I'll go continue playing Witcher 3 instead. Another stellar thing I've bought due to one of our participants fawning all over it. I'm getting so DTF-dependable. :lol

        I rarely check this forum outside of the music subforums, but oh man, that is one epic game indeed! (finished it recently). The expansion, Hearts of Stone, is ace as well. Bought that one initially as the stores here sold a version that had a physical gwent card deck, which I probably will never use but I just really like playing cards, heh.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 21, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
        I royally fucked up in my first gwent game. :lol

        I've picked the English sound and English subtitles - I watched the intro both with original voice-over and Russian translation, and they screwed up alright: when the guy says "Nigh is the Time of the Sword and Axe" they translated it as if he said "Night is the time...", so I instantly decided on English language for the whole game. And, well, apparently I didn't read the gwent game description thoroughly enough, because I used all my cards in the first round and won, and then the second round started and I was sitting there with no cards. :facepalm:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Tyrias on February 21, 2016, 01:29:02 PM
        The Witcher 3 is my favourite game ever. I finished the main story a month ago, went back and read all the books (which are fantastic by the way, at least if your translation is good. I've heard the English translation is unfortunately not that well done. German one is really good, though.) Now I'm replaying the whole game series and it's amazing how many small details and references there are to the books. Also, this is the only game (and one of very few things ever) that gave me chills for 2 hours straight and made me tear up so that I could hardly read my dialogue options at one particular moment (which was pretty sucky, since it was a timed dialogue :'(). Such fantastic characters, so much great content, no filler, amazing graphics, really good gameplay at least in my opinion) and a great story to add to that. You can feel the developers really cared about making this as good as possible.

        Didn't play much gwent, though. But I will in my second playthrough.

        Also, I recognize none of these bands or songs, and my guess is that won't change as the full names are revealed. :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 21, 2016, 01:34:42 PM
        My song is the shortest one on that list.

        I royally fucked up in my first gwent game. :lol

        I've picked the English sound and English subtitles - I watched the intro both with original voice-over and Russian translation, and they screwed up alright: when the guy says "Nigh is the Time of the Sword and Axe" they translated it as if he said "Night is the time...", so I instantly decided on English language for the whole game. And, well, apparently I didn't read the gwent game desciprtion thoroughly enough, because I used all my cards in the first round and won, and then the second round started and I was sitting there with no cards. :facepalm:

        I also royally screwed up and didn't understand why I lost at all  :lol I only started doing gwent later in the game and every now and then did an evening playing just that. There are some (main) quests that have moments where you can play a unique gwent match, but it is never mandatory.

        Man, thinking back, this game is absolutely massive and has it all, but I won't spoil anything offcourse. One word of advice though, do play all sidequests tied to the main characters/quests/old friends, as many of those are significantly tied to the story and may affect the outcome in major ways. Most of those by no means feel like simple side stuff though, so it won't drag.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 21, 2016, 01:41:56 PM
        I royally fucked up in my first gwent game. :lol

         because I used all my cards in the first round and won, and then the second round started and I was sitting there with no cards. :facepalm:

        I did the same thing.  I think the game wants you to lose the first game that way, because you are never going to forget that rule again after that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Sacul on February 21, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
        Now that would be brilliant game design.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 21, 2016, 02:06:25 PM
        Well, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who did this.

        My song is the shortest one on that list.

        I royally fucked up in my first gwent game. :lol

        I've picked the English sound and English subtitles - I watched the intro both with original voice-over and Russian translation, and they screwed up alright: when the guy says "Nigh is the Time of the Sword and Axe" they translated it as if he said "Night is the time...", so I instantly decided on English language for the whole game. And, well, apparently I didn't read the gwent game desciprtion thoroughly enough, because I used all my cards in the first round and won, and then the second round started and I was sitting there with no cards. :facepalm:

        I also royally screwed up and didn't understand why I lost at all  :lol I only started doing gwent later in the game and every now and then did an evening playing just that. There are some (main) quests that have moments where you can play a unique gwent match, but it is never mandatory.

        I've played my first game even before I met Yennefer. (except from that tutorial dream from the beginning, obviously)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 21, 2016, 02:14:21 PM
        I think I've played 3 or 4 games.  Lost them all except the very first intro/learning one.  Haven't made this a part of my gaming experience at all.  No big thing.  Just a few side quests that I'm not doing.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 21, 2016, 07:23:15 PM
        I can see my own song but recognise nothing else.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2016, 08:22:26 PM
        I recognize mine, the second one (invariably sent by Kade), and the last one - probably sent by Seneca.

        Pretty certain mines the third one.

        Ruslan, did my second link eventually work for you?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 21, 2016, 08:44:53 PM
        Also, I'm going to steal this "post blurry image of the submissions" idea for my next roulette. (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/thief.gif~original)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Crow on February 21, 2016, 08:49:26 PM
        tbh for my next roulette i've been thinking of just putting every song in a google doc (without saying who sent what) and writing my first impressions in the doc while i listen along but i dunno if that'd kill suspense too much  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2016, 08:51:50 PM
        I think it's more fun if we know what other people sent, and then we can stew and second guess ourselves

        Fucking brilliant idea.

        I was actually thinking of doing this for my roulette.  Just posting straight up all the songs that were sent, not who sent them though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 21, 2016, 09:29:26 PM
        I recognize mine, the second one (invariably sent by Kade), and the last one - probably sent by Seneca.

        Pretty certain mines the third one.


        Yeah, in retrospect I realize that the 2nd one is more likely to be Brent's
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 22, 2016, 01:06:25 AM
        I recognize mine, the second one (invariably sent by Kade), and the last one - probably sent by Seneca.

        Pretty certain mines the third one.

        Ruslan, did my second link eventually work for you?

        Yeah, the second link worked wonders. Thank you!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 04:26:00 AM
        I recognize mine, the second one (invariably sent by Kade), and the last one - probably sent by Seneca.

        Pretty certain mines the third one.

        Ruslan, did my second link eventually work for you?

        Yeah, the second link worked wonders. Thank you!

        Awesome, I know what I did wrong now the first time.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 22, 2016, 06:08:43 AM
        Okay, I've started to pay a little more attention to the picture and I figured out a couple of words, pretty sure this is the 5th song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL8NY-Rs1Ws

        So props to whoever sent it, you really blew it out of the park with this one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Elite on February 22, 2016, 06:18:59 AM
        ^^ :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Stars are falling down into oblivion (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 22, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
        :lol

        Here's the second picture!

        (https://i.imgur.com/fDr4OdL.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 22, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
        I still recognise only the song I sent :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Sacul on February 22, 2016, 01:33:36 PM
        Looks like someone sent Converge :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 22, 2016, 01:43:47 PM
        I figure that Chad sent the DGM track. I had considered them for the next open round. Also, that is a great My Soliloquy track. They were on my short list for this roulette.

        Figure either Kade or Brent sent Beyond The Black.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 01:44:20 PM
        Sieges Even, Cloudscape, Leverage, Bearfish, Beyond the Bridge, DGM are in there.  And looks like a band In The Silence, who I don't know.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
        I figure that Chad sent the DGM track. I had considered them for the next open round. Also, that is a great My Soliloquy track. They were on my short list for this roulette.

        Figure either Kade or Brent sent Beyond The Black.

        I thought it was Beyond the Bridge.  I've never heard Beyond the Black at all.

        I've heard a couple of DGM songs and liked what I heard.  That's a band I need to check out further.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 22, 2016, 01:52:22 PM
        Sieges Even, Cloudscape, Leverage, Bearfish, Beyond the Bridge, DGM are in there.  And looks like a band In The Silence, who I don't know.

        (https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/non-aliencreatures/images/1/12/SeaBear.png/revision/latest?cb=20140923150713)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 22, 2016, 01:58:35 PM
        Sieges Even, Cloudscape, Leverage, Bearfish, Beyond the Bridge, DGM are in there.  And looks like a band In The Silence, who I don't know.

        (https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/non-aliencreatures/images/1/12/SeaBear.png/revision/latest?cb=20140923150713)
        :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 22, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
        Sieges Even, Cloudscape, Leverage, Bearfish, Beyond the Bridge, DGM are in there.  And looks like a band In The Silence, who I don't know.

        (https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/non-aliencreatures/images/1/12/SeaBear.png/revision/latest?cb=20140923150713)

        :lol

        It's obviously not Beyond the Bridge. I know Beyond the Bridge.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Luoto on February 22, 2016, 02:16:42 PM
        Looks like someone sent Converge :neverusethis:

        Hah :D Seriously though, nice to see Leverage in there.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 02:26:55 PM
        Sieges Even, Cloudscape, Leverage, Bearfish, Beyond the Bridge, DGM are in there.  And looks like a band In The Silence, who I don't know.

        (https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/non-aliencreatures/images/1/12/SeaBear.png/revision/latest?cb=20140923150713)

        :lol

        It's obviously not Beyond the Bridge. I know Beyond the Bridge.

        Haha, whoops.

        And yeah, I thought you knew Beyond the Bridge.  Definitely a strong round it seems.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 22, 2016, 02:37:53 PM
        I am torn for the ballad. Gonna use my Wild Card! ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 22, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
        The bottom one is Chad, because it is The Consortium Project.

        Lots of good competition this round.

        The next to last one is My Soliloquy - Flashpoint.  I think most of the rest have been identified.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 03:01:39 PM
        The bottom one is Chad, because it is The Consortium Project.

        How did I miss that one, you're 100% right.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 03:37:15 PM
        The bottom one is Chad, because it is The Consortium Project.

        How did I miss that one, you're 100% right.

        You missed it because it's wrong  ;D   I'll say the bottom one is seneca with The Paralydium project - New Frontier.   Odd Dimension is in there too.

        And the second bottom is Tim with Flashdance.

        And I spent half of yesterday listening to DGM to pick a track for the roulette  ::)   IMHO they're very up and down with the quality of their stuff - I could get a real nice compilation out of all of their albums .  When they nail it though they're great.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 03:53:16 PM
        And I spent half of yesterday listening to DGM to pick a track for the roulette  ::)

        You can cross them off my roulette list too.  :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 03:56:54 PM
        And I spent half of yesterday listening to DGM to pick a track for the roulette  ::)

        You can cross them off my roulette list too.  :biggrin:

        No need.....your roulette is one that I am pretty much set for with roughly zero chance of being cock blocked on anything.   This one........plenty of that going to happen but to some extent I appreciate some choices being taken out of my hands  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2016, 04:42:47 PM
        Tim and Mason are both wrong. Some great tracks/bands in there. I can scratch off a few from my list of possibilities now.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 22, 2016, 07:32:39 PM
        I'm very surprised that I wasn't cockblocked by someone here. Still plenty of opportunity for that though, I suppose.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 22, 2016, 07:35:35 PM
        I'm very surprised that there's actually a name on there that I recognize (apart from my own song), and that's Beardfish, whose music I never even heard. No cock blocks just yet  :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: lonestar on February 22, 2016, 09:23:08 PM
        Tim and Mason are both wrong. Some great tracks/bands in there. I can scratch off a few from my list of possibilities now.

        Me too, especially Cloudscape. Had them pegged for round 3.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 22, 2016, 09:44:27 PM
        Well, we can all cock block Chad now that I misguessed
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2016, 04:54:46 AM
        Mine is the one last band that no one has to be called out yet.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2016, 04:56:20 AM
        Vandroya   :smiley:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 23, 2016, 02:33:47 PM
        And the second bottom is Tim with Flashdance.

        Nope!  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 03:14:13 PM
        Tim and Mason are both wrong. Some great tracks/bands in there. I can scratch off a few from my list of possibilities now.

        Me too, especially Cloudscape. Had them pegged for round 3.

        Yeah, that's a bugger.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 23, 2016, 04:37:42 PM
        Alright, I don't think you guys need another less blurred pic, since you pretty much figured out already. I'm heading home now, tidbits are coming tomorrow, and results will be up either Thursday or Friday (more likely).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: lonestar on February 23, 2016, 06:19:43 PM
        Vandroya   :smiley:

        Yup, Why Should We Say Goodbye. Interesting move, score some points with a quality tune whilst cockblocking someone on the female round. Such a Chad thing.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2016, 06:58:39 PM
        Vandroya   :smiley:

        Yup, Why Should We Say Goodbye. Interesting move, score some points with a quality tune whilst cockblocking someone on the female round. Such a Chad thing.

        (https://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/wink-laugh-George-Costanza-Seinfeld-GIF.gif?gs=a)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 23, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
        Vandroya   :smiley:

        Yup, Why Should We Say Goodbye. Interesting move, score some points with a quality tune whilst cockblocking someone on the female round. Such a Chad thing.

        Yup. A definite Chadhole move!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2016, 07:36:31 PM
        (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-snkyQyVibPg/UcS0-gfLPxI/AAAAAAAAAcg/NjCzuKMS7TU/s320/not+sorry.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 10:24:47 PM
        Since I don't know that band, I ain't even mad.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2016, 11:36:14 PM
        Oh, Rj... don't forget that it's a ballad-block too.  Just might take another female-fronted band out in Round 2 while I'm at it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2016, 04:17:24 AM
        Oh, Rj... don't forget that it's a ballad-block too.  Just might take another female-fronted band out in Round 2 while I'm at it.

        Are you this much of an asshole in real life too?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 24, 2016, 04:40:27 AM
        Oh, Rj... don't forget that it's a ballad-block too.  Just might take another female-fronted band out in Round 2 while I'm at it.

        Are you this much of an asshole in real life too?

        You've seen pictures of Chad.  I'd say he's more of a circumsized dick head.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2016, 04:51:15 AM
         :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2016, 04:53:59 AM
        (https://i.imgur.com/WchFfNy.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 24, 2016, 05:05:34 AM
        :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on February 24, 2016, 06:20:41 AM
        Oh, Rj... don't forget that it's a ballad-block too.  Just might take another female-fronted band out in Round 2 while I'm at it.

        (https://dannybrown.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/STFU.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: lonestar on February 24, 2016, 06:44:19 AM
        Oh shit  :rollin



        Oh, Rj... don't forget that it's a ballad-block too.  Just might take another female-fronted band out in Round 2 while I'm at it.

        Eh, my female fronted band is safe, you haven't even heard of them bro. Go ahead and send Beautiful Sin...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Travelling into this daydream (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2016, 08:30:29 AM
        Oh, Rj... don't forget that it's a ballad-block too.  Just might take another female-fronted band out in Round 2 while I'm at it.

        Are you this much of an asshole in real life too?

        Nope. I save it all for roulette's.

        @ Brent ...  :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on February 24, 2016, 11:04:48 AM
        So, here are the tidbits. Can you guess which songs they're related to?

        Songs like this one are the main reason I’m taking such a long time posting the results for this round. I want to let the song sink in with its formidable length and all. At this point, I still feel I can’t grasp this song as a whole, so naturally I’m going to give it more chances.

        The scores are still subject to change, but I feel this is settled for me more or less. I didn’t intend this to happen at all — I mean, I’m just rating the songs depending on how much I liked them — but this is some kind of (strange) déjà vu going on here.

        Is this just me or is there a huge Avantasia vibe in the chorus? I swear, the vocal melodies and rhythm are so much like The Seven Angels outro I’ve found it startling.

        I was worried about this, but I must say, I’m glad this isn’t like that Quiet World situation at all.

        This… wasn’t what I expected. It doesn’t make it less good though!


        For one moment I was afraid since it sounded suspiciously like djent, but this is clearly no djent, but excellent progressive metal instead. The fault is on me — I should’ve known better than to doubt you. Fantastic song!

        Oh, and I must say, this is a fantastic round. In fact, it's probably the best round I've had in the roulettes. There are so much good stuff it's incredible.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on February 24, 2016, 11:11:13 AM
        I think I see something in reference to my song and if I'm right then it bodes really well for me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on February 24, 2016, 11:25:00 AM

        Songs like this one are the main reason I’m taking such a long time posting the results for this round. I want to let the song sink in with its formidable length and all. At this point, I still feel I can’t grasp this song as a whole, so naturally I’m going to give it more chances.

        Could be mine, or The Paralydium Project, which has Lonestar written all over it.

        For one moment I was afraid since it sounded suspiciously like djent, but this is clearly no djent, but excellent progressive metal instead. The fault is on me — I should’ve known better than to doubt you. Fantastic song!

        Thinking of the way my song starts..hmm..

        Actually it could be TPP too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 24, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
        Even Evermind wouldn't say my song is djenty :lol it could be any other tho
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 24, 2016, 11:49:25 AM
        Boy, I sure wonder which one is about me :neverusethis: or maybe you're just messing with me like I was in my roulette with that Dire Straits reference which ended up not being about the Knopfler song  :lol
        ... So I guess I'm getting more than 3.5 points this round?

        Anyway I remember listening to the bottom song on the 'blurred list' (don't know whose it was) and remember hearing things that reminded me of djent, so I'm that's what the djent tidbit is about.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on February 24, 2016, 11:51:28 AM
        Boy, I sure wonder which one is about me :neverusethis: or maybe you're just messing with me like I was in my roulette with that Dire Straits reference which ended up not being about the Knopfler song  :lol
        ... So I guess I'm getting more than 3.5 points this round?

        Anyway I remember listening to the bottom song on the 'blurred list' (don't know whose it was) and remember hearing things that reminded me of djent, so I'm that's what the djent tidbit is about.

        I'm going to be all open, the Quiet World tidbit isn't about your song. It totally makes sense if you know what I'm talking about there.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 24, 2016, 11:56:35 AM
        Dang, I'm guessing none of these is mine then, or the vague one saying it's not what you expected, which could be anyone's.

        Can't wait to cockblock y'all with my ballad.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tyrias on February 24, 2016, 12:20:55 PM
        Just for hilariousness' sake, I do hope the strange déjà-vu one means another person sent something you think is djent and gets a 3 :lol.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on February 24, 2016, 06:07:00 PM
        I'm kinda feeling challenged to send some d'jent that you'd like. I got a good deal of solid stuff, I'm sure some would appeal.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2016, 08:47:19 PM
        Ok... prediction time.  Gonna be a shot in the dark with a few, since I don't know much about ToN, Tom, or Erhao... and I know RJ is going deep into the vault.

        Vandroya - me.  Pretty sure I got this one right.
        Sieges Even - Mason
        Black Fate - Brent
        Cloudscape - Kade
        Odd Dimension - Tim
        Beardfish - ToN
        Leverage - Big Hath
        In The Silence - RJ
        Beyond the Black - Tom
        DGM - Bolsters
        My Soliloquy - Erhao
        The Paralydium Project - Seneca

        The only comment prediction I have is that the first one is related to the Beardfish song.

        Now it's time to go make a playlist and have a run through these - only problem is My Soliloquy ain't on Spotify.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 24, 2016, 08:51:31 PM
        I've heard a few DGM songs, but I don't even remember which ones. That one isn't mine.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 24, 2016, 08:57:51 PM
        Dammit I wasn't aware of a second Odd Dimension album, only figured it out when I couldn't match the tune to the one I had.

        We really need a burning money emoticon.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2016, 09:04:17 PM
        I think Kade expressed his  >:(  at Cloudscape being taken out Chad.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
        I think Kade expressed his  >:(  at Cloudscape being taken out Chad.

        It's all a ruse!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2016, 09:20:14 PM
         ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2016, 09:30:01 PM
        Oh, and I'm pretty sure the 'djent' comment goes with The Paralydium Project, because I thought the same thing.

        Interesting that two of the songs were also ones I received recently as well as a different Black Fate song.

        Oh, and I guess if I checked last.fm, I might be able to tell a little better who sent what.  Now I know what/who Bolsters sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
        I think I'm gonna reveal the songs straight up in my roulette, this is a great idea Ruslan has come up with here.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on February 24, 2016, 09:57:51 PM
        Oh, and I'm pretty sure the 'djent' comment goes with The Paralydium Project, because I thought the same thing.

        Yeah me too. I can't stand most things with djent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2016, 10:04:56 PM
        Oh, and I'm pretty sure the 'djent' comment goes with The Paralydium Project, because I thought the same thing.

        Yeah me too. I can't stand most things with djent.

        Same... but crunchy guitar tones have their place every now and then.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2016, 10:17:31 PM
        Same here re djent -  poor old splent got caned in my roulette for sending Animals as Leaders  :lol    Never send djent splent   *unties tongue

        Although I do have one obscure band that could be called djent that are sitting in my Evermind playlist.........not sure I'll have room to squeeze them in though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2016, 10:27:28 PM
        Man... that was a quality list of songs.  Couple are now noted that I'm gonna have to check out at some point.

        But I still don't 'get' Beardfish.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2016, 10:44:31 PM
        Beardfish are good.  Mammoth is a great record.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 25, 2016, 01:03:55 AM
        Beardfish ain't mine yo, the only band I know on this list is In The Silence, so that's mine  :biggrin:

        I think I'm gonna make a playlist of the songs too, should be fun to see what I'm up against.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 25, 2016, 01:25:14 AM
        Beardfish ain't mine yo, the only band I know on this list is In The Silence, so that's mine  :biggrin:

        I think I'm gonna make a playlist of the songs too, should be fun to see what I'm up against.
        I sent Beardfish. I'm crazy about their newest so I had to send something from it.
        And I think jingle is right about Evermind's comment on Beardfish, it is a long song.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2016, 03:53:47 AM
        Man... that was a quality list of songs.

        You don't say. I thought the preliminary rounds were good, but compared to this one... little did I know.

        I think I've got a good grasp on most of the songs now. If everything goes fine, I may try to get results up this evening, but no promises. Friday is still more likely.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 25, 2016, 04:01:02 AM
        For sure a very strong round, listened to the whole thing, even the songs I didn't like as much I can see Evermind liking.

        The first tidbit is probably about the Beardfish song yeah, and the strange deja vu one I'm thinking is someone receiving the same score as the last one or two preliminary rounds. The djent one really only applies to The Paralydium Project, but with Evermind you never know what could be classified as djent.

        Still can't figure out the Quiet World quote, I thought it would be about a song that does growls without them feeling out of place or over the top to you, but I don't recall any growls this round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 04:01:58 AM
        Man... that was a quality list of songs.

        You don't say. I thought the preliminary rounds were good, but compared to this one... little did I know.

        I think I've got a good grasp on most of the songs now. If everything goes fine, I may try to get results up this evening, but no promises. Friday is still more likely.

        No rush man, a lot of quality to get a hold of here.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on February 25, 2016, 05:47:45 AM
        I checked out a few of the songs yesterday. Yes there is some good stuff.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The heat of endless winters (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on February 25, 2016, 06:11:05 AM
        Odd Dimension - Tim

        Well, we've talked about them a couple of times so I can see why you'd think that.

        They're a great band and one of my favorite discoveries of the last 5 years.

        Dammit I wasn't aware of a second Odd Dimension album, only figured it out when I couldn't match the tune to the one I had.

        I've used Light Speed Journey in most roulettes I've been in. Awesome tune! I've had Far From Desire on my short list many times but thought LSJ was a bit safer. But FFD is great and it totally earworms me at the end.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2016, 12:23:23 PM
        I think the results will be up in two hours or less from now on. I'm done with ranking the songs, just need to write the write-ups.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 25, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
        Cool :metal
        I was pretty confident when I sent my song but now I'm not too much, there are some pro roulette players :lol even if you liked it I think my relative score won't be that good
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
        I was pretty confident when I sent my song but now I'm not too much, there are some pro roulette player :lol even if you liked it I think my relative score won't be that good

        Not spoiling anything about the score, but you're indeed in an impressive crowd of participants. Chad said this is like all-star setup for him, and I tend to agree. It's going to be difficult to win this thing, and even making the cut-off will be incredibly challenging.

        To everyone regarding the scores: remember that 7.5 equals "good". The rating for this round was very difficult for me. Even if you get 7.5, it still means your song was good, it's just I didn't connect with it as much as I did with the songs that scored better.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 25, 2016, 01:08:19 PM
        To be fair Tom, I think the second half of your song was really great, didn't connect as much with the first half as much on first listen, which is why I thought the first tidbit was yours.

        I guess we'll see in a bit. I personally really dug the female-fronted songs, and it's normally not something I enjoy as much but these were amazing.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 25, 2016, 01:21:08 PM
        I remember I (frequently) have a notably different taste in ballads so the next round will be both interesting and risky for me. That and the flute round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2016, 01:32:20 PM
        It's not a "flute" round, it's more like the "unusual instrument" round. ;)

        8 write-ups ready, 4 to go.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Like a rhyme of the false orchestra (Soon)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 25, 2016, 01:33:40 PM
        To be fair Tom, I think the second half of your song was really great, didn't connect as much with the first half as much on first listen, which is why I thought the first tidbit was yours.

        I guess we'll see in a bit. I personally really dug the female-fronted songs, and it's normally not something I enjoy as much but these were amazing.
        I felt nothing after first listen to that album so I can get someone not liking it.
        About ballads round, I don't know yet what to send. Maybe I'll take risk and send something different than anything from banned list.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
        So here are the results. Just remember this is some really tight competition. There's no shame in being the last here. I tried to be honest regarding the songs too.

        Round 1 Results:

        lonestar: My Soliloquy – Flash Point

        You said you were digging deep for this roulette, and indeed, I’ve never even heard of this band. For one moment I was afraid since the intro riff sounded suspiciously like djent, but this is clearly no djent, but excellent progressive metal instead. I should’ve known better than to doubt you.

        I mean, I love everything about this song. From the odd frantic riff in the beginning to the tension-filled bass-line and the quite on edge vocal delivery, this is just so excellent. This is the kind of progressive metal I love. The vocalist sounds quite like Peter Nicholis and would’ve been fine in some neo-progressive rock band, but he’s doing this kind of progressive metal instead and he’s doing a brilliant job with it. The vocal melodies fit him like a glove — I also love how he rolls his tongue doing the “r” sound in a few words. When the song goes into a lengthy, well, should we call it a bridge, I love the inclusion of acoustic guitar, it adds a lot of this tune; and the singer’s voice is working perfectly on this song. “Simply can’t recall / This is how it was” part with acoustic guitars all over it… damn, this is so beautiful.

        You were the king of 9 and 9.5 scores in my previous roulette – I recall you received a lot of those, and you had a great chance to win the whole thing until you blew it up with two duds in Round 7. But your game in the first rounds was top-notch, and I guess you’re doing the same thing now. This is a fantastic song, just excellent, and it’s the winner of this round. Just don’t fuck up later on, and if you continue sending songs like this, I think you pretty much have this roulette in the bag. But wait, well, maybe some participants have something to say about it…

        9.5/10

        bl5150: Black Fate – Rhyme of the False Orchestra

        Even before I started my first listening, two songs’ names in the batch intrigued me. This was one of them, and I was indeed pleased to discover the interesting, promising song title wasn’t the only way this song could appeal to me.

        Honestly, listening to this, I’m feeling like I’m discovering some secret Kamelot album I never knew of before, and this feeling is worth a lot. The singer has an incredible voice and his singing appeals to me big time – and I’m actually straight, but damn he’s hot and his voice is even hotter. So anyway, let’s get back to the song. I like how the whole song is pretty much power metal but the pace is slowed down, I love how the song’s name rolls off the tongue in the chorus, I love the instrumental arrangements… This is right up my alley, no doubt about it.

        I’ll be honest, I didn’t intend this to happen at all — I mean, I’m just rating the songs depending on how much I liked them — but this is some kind of (strange) déjà vu going on here. But hey, I’m not to blame if you guys are constantly sending me the awesome music. This is the second standout in this round, and while I like the tune RJ sent a bit more, the difference is almost negligible.

        9.5/10

        Big Hath: Leverage – Rise / Wolf and the Moon

        I’ll be honest, I had some doubts about my picks for the four remaining spots in the main competition, but you sent some great songs in the qualifiers so eventually I began to think you’re a great pick for this roulette and your tastes must be awesome since you were consistently sending me great tunes. I admit, I still had my reservations since we mostly didn’t interact here on DTF at all… well, you dispelled all my remaining doubts in this round.

        First off, it was a great call to send me the orchestral intro along with the song; it enhanced my listening experience a lot. This is a fantastic power metal tune, the orchestral arrangement present in the song itself adds the necessary texture to it, and the narrative in the middle isn’t bothering me at all. In fact, it makes me even more eager to check out this album. The best part of the song and the one that never fails to send chills down my spine is when the chorus kicks in: “Hey you!” with the guitars building the tension before this part kicks in and the keyboards accentuating (I hope this is an actual word) this powerful punch. The singer is brilliant on this song — in fact, most of the songs I’ve received in this round featured a great singer on them, and perhaps that’s why I loved this round so much — I place a lot of importance in the vocal melodies and vocal delivery. The vocals in your song were top-notch, and so were the melodies.

        Well, what can I say? This song was awesome, but the other two songs clicked with me better. Still, this was great and I’ll be checking out Leverage after this roulette for sure.

        9/10


        Dr. DTVT: Sieges Even – The Lonely View of Condors


        You were one of the participants who were going to get 8.5 as their score, but as it happens, this song grew on me a lot. I didn’t think much of it on the first listen, and now look where it is, it’s the fourth best song of the round and it gets a nine. I’m not sure I know your tastes well, but judging from my first roulette, this is somewhat like a trademark entry of yours if you take the genres into account. Awesome atmospheric progressive rock with a touch of happiness.

        I like how this song seems sad and longing, but at the same time I love how those unexpected moments of springy happiness burst through in the pre-choruses (“Sometimes it’s coming over me!”). I don’t have anything to compare this song with, and at the same time I love how it sounds, and it’s a great thing. This truly feels like a progressive rock for me, pushing the boundaries of this genre yet still being a brilliant, enjoyable music.

        You know, I always thought it wasn’t easy to impress me with the progressive rock bands, because they tend to be quite hit and miss with me, and loads of them fall into the miss category. But somehow you make it seem easy with your submissions. I think I liked everything you’ve sent in my first roulette except Xen. I guess you realized something about my tastes that even I can’t quite pinpoint, and I’m so glad you’re in this roulette.

        9/10

        wolfking: Cloudscape – Under Fire

        I know you tend to send your entries without any extended thinking. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t; and I don’t actually know what strategy you used when you sent me this one, but I guess it worked better than anything you’ve sent to Bolsters in Championship roulette.

        This song is interesting. The band sounds tight and great, the musical landscape is right up my alley here, but despite myself I’m finding the small things to complain about (while the world is under fire, no less). I really feel this track could’ve been 9.5 material if some vocal melodies were tailored to fit my tastes. I mean, the soaring chorus lines with “the world is under fire!” are so promising, but then it gets just a bit underwhelming with “still we complain about small things”. I think the quieter part in the middle and the following instrumental are very good though.

        So yeah, while I feel this has potential, the vocal melodies could’ve been better and thus this track isn’t as awesome as the four above it. Still, it’s a great song and one of the best you’ve sent to me so far.

        8.5/10

        jingle.boy: Vandroya – Why Should We Say Goodbye

        It was a nice call to send a female-fronted power ballad, striving to submit something different and refreshing from other participants’ song. This song definitely was refreshing among the sea of all the male-fronted tunes (well, except Dave’s entry), but unfortunately, “refreshing” doesn’t quite mean “flawless”.

        I guess need to get this out I guess… Is this me or there’s a huge Avantasia vibe in the chorus? I swear, the vocal melodies and rhythm are so much like The Seven Angels outro I’ve found it startling. I mean, not only they’re called Vandroya (and I’m sure you know the character Kiske played in The Metal Opera is named Vandroy), but I’m always tempted to sing the chorus like this:

        When you try to say the truth
        And sometimes it takes the toll
        Dreaming of a nearly past
        From the other side of life

        But hey, if I dismiss that, it’s actually a nice song. I love ballads, and this one is right up my alley. I do think some of the lyrics sound a bit cringe-worthy (“Oh baby, don’t you dare to leave me coz’ you’re inside my heart”), and the similarities with Avantasia do take away some of my enjoyment, but when it gets good, it’s really great. I’ve watched the video too, and while I’ve found it well-crafted, there weren’t any tear-jerking moments for me, so I guess it really is personal. (I think the singer looks quite saddened and she could use a fluffy microphone (https://budgetvideo.com/images/gallery/rycote_windjammer.jpg) instead of that steel one she has. Fluffy mics bring joy. Just like fluffy cats.)

        I’m rereading my write-up now and it seems really critical. Well, don’t be alarmed or anything, in fact I like this song a lot. I just had a lot to write about it too.

        8.5/10

        Tomislav95: Beardfish – Comfort Zone

        So as I said, I’ve heard the epic from this album called If We Must Fall Apart before, but only one time and I guess I wasn’t in the mood back then. Because now I’m listening to this song and I think this is quite good indeed. Naturally, I was worried about this song, but I must say, I’m glad this isn’t like that Quiet World situation at all: I saw the album was named Quiet World, not to mention this glorious peaceful art, and I thought it was going to feature some mellow progressive rock all around, and instead I’ve got blast beats, growls and all the not-so-nice stuff in one song. I was afraid this will be like that one, deceptively called “Comfort Zone” and turn out to be well outside it.

        Well, it’s not, it’s right inside my comfort zone. This is that warm progressive rock I feel it could’ve been written and recorded back in the 70s or 80s. There aren’t any fantastic jaw-dropping sections, but it’s all just pretty solid and enjoyable. I like the main melody and I like how the keyboards are used throughout the song, and the vocalist doesn’t detract anything from the tune too… it just lacks something to be really fantastic. Still, it’s fine and I think it describes me when I get up for work at 5 A.M. perfectly: “I hate everything and everyone”.

        You feared you weren’t going to get such a good score, and well, it depends on what you think a good score is. Yeah, it’s not 9.5, but your song is still sixth out of twelve, so in the end you didn’t do so bad.

        8.5/10

        Bolsters: Beyond the Black – Songs of Love and Death

        After two kick-ass power and progressive metal songs in the preliminary rounds, this… well, this wasn’t what I expected at all. Mid-tempo female-fronted song? You managed to surprise me this round, for better or worse.

        And well, while I didn’t expect to get such a song from you, it doesn’t make it less good. It’s not a clear stand-out in this round, but it’s a very strong track. Good melodies there, the chorus is quite an earworm and it’s so catchy it’s actually annoying on the subsequent listens. I’m quite torn at the singer’s voice, she sounds quite powerful yet she also sounds tired somehow, and this makes it grating on my ears just a bit.

        I mean, this song wasn’t bad by all means, quite good actually – remember that anything above 7.5 is a good score – but it just couldn’t compete with those six songs above it.

        8/10

        Train of Naught: In the Silence – Ever Closer


        I’ve got to say, you weren’t wrong labeling this as “atmospheric metal”, because this is essentially what it is, but that’s not all. I’m subconsciously associating this song with alternative rock on its heavier sections and I’m not too fond of them, but the atmospheric parts are doing this song a huge favour.

        I love some dark, quiet landscapes in metal music (see Amadeus Awad), and I think this song does this wonderfully. There are some great moments when it gets heavy too, don’t get me wrong, and all in all, the song does a great job convincing me about its awesomeness. You know, those heavy guitar parts beneath the song, the lingering vocals, all that… they add up to a wonderful song all around. This isn’t something I can instantly fall in love with, but it’s pretty damn good too.

        8/10

        TAC: Odd Dimension – Far From Desire

        You know, this may sound weird, but you surprised the hell out of me with this song. I’ve always imagined you being a fan of some heavy / power metal with high-pitched vocals (that Enbound song you sent me in my first roulette is a good example), and here you send me something that (in my opinion) walks a fine line between progressive metal and thrash metal, really heavy overall with raspy vocals.

        This song has some fantastic sections and not-so-fantastic sections too. My biggest problem with it is that it sounds hugely disjointed to my ears. I don’t think the faster verses correlate with the slow-paced pre-choruses quite well; but I do like how this song maintains the heaviness throughout. All sections sound good to my ears, it's just they don’t quite work together as a song. It gets better towards the end, but it’s still not enough.

        This song originally had the lowest score of the round, but I really appreciated the different sections here, even if I thought it was disjointed a bit, and I think the ending carried this song to the “good” level.

        7.5/10

        senecadawg2: The Paralydium Project – New Frontier

        Songs like this one were the main reason I was taking such a long time posting the results for this round. I wanted to let the song sink in with its formidable length and all. I kept giving it more chances to grow on me, and now I finally feel I’ve got a good grasp on its structure and all… yet sadly I’m still not convinced.

        This tune has some brilliant sections. The verses building the tension with the heavy, crunchy guitars beneath them are one of my favourite musical moments in this whole round (“I’ve been seeing it over and over again / Appearing in my dreams / I imagine there’s a greater purpose for me”); but the quiet sections feel out of place, in my opinion. It doesn’t really help how this guy pronounces some words (“is a vishion from a dream”). Don’t get me wrong, some parts here are top-notch, but some parts bring this song down quite a bit.

        I was thinking about this for quite a long time, but in the end, I’m still not convinced. Yeah, this is good, with some excellent parts too, but that’s it. It’s good and that’s about it.

        7.5/10

        ErHaO: DGM – Trust

        Well, I’ve heard about DGM, but I never checked out their music. I often get some Italian metal band promo albums in my e-mail, and they all sound, well, not exactly the same, but quite close to it. DGM seems to have somewhat distinctive sound, but the melodies and the riffs are pretty much generic here.

        I mean, there’s nothing wrong with this song, but I feel they’ve only managed to get the chorus right on this tune – it’s quite memorable indeed – and then there’s some generic wacky instrumentation and forgettable verses. I’ve listened to this song a lot, probably 10 times or more, and still I was underwhelmed. The chorus is fantastic, yes, but the rest of this tune sadly falls flat for me. Still, it’s not bad and it’s quite listenable alright, and the chorus actually carries this tune up for a few points, but it’s still the least exciting song of the round.

        7/10

        Bands added to banned list:

        My Soliloquy
        Black Fate
        Leverage
        Sieges Even
        Cloudscape
        Vandroya
        Beardfish
        Beyond the Black
        In the Silence
        The Paralydium Project
        Odd Dimension

        The scoreboard:

        lonestar - 9.5
        bl5150 - 9.5
        Big Hath - 9
        Dr. DTVT - 9
        wolfking - 8.5
        jingle.boy - 8.5
        Tomislav95 - 8.5
        Bolsters - 8
        Train of Naught - 8
        TAC - 7.5
        senecadawg2 - 7.5
        ErHaO - 7
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2016, 02:38:01 PM
        Round 2: Ballads

        This is the usual round in my roulette. Everyone has to send a ballad. Since this question arose before in my PM, I've got to say, my ballad definition is a sad / slower song that doesn't have to be telling the story. I know there's another definition of ballad being the song telling the story regardless the style (could be heavy and fast and whatever else), but I ask you to keep to the description I provided in the previous sentence.

        This round can be a make or break regarding the scores. If I like the ballad, there's a good chance it'll get a great score, but if you missed with your ballad, well, be prepared for a low score.

        I think I also have to warn you that happy ballads don't tend to align well with me.

        The time-limit for this round is 10 minutes.

        Send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 25, 2016, 02:49:38 PM
        I'm more than satisfied with 8.5 :tup there are some bands others sent that are recommended to me on Last.fm but I never checked them. Now could me time for it.
        I yet need to find ballad for next round but I'll try to send it as soon as possible(probably tomorrow).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 25, 2016, 02:52:42 PM
        I guess the greatness of this round means there's not much of a gap yet so that's good. Very satisfied with an 8/10, considering I'm technically 3rd to last that could've been a LOT worse.

        Been deciding between two artists for the ballad round but I'm not sure whether either of these will be something you'll like, gotta take the risk though. Will send tomorrow.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 03:01:53 PM
        You're right, I didn't put any thought into the submission, but happy with the score.

        This Black Fate band seems to be a good one.

        I'll send something tonight.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: TAC on February 25, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
        Ouch!
        I can't believe My Soliloquy won the round. I've used them a lot and pimped them hard when that album came out. Even started a thread.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 05:21:05 PM
        Nice.............some interesting stuff in there.  I never really got into My Soliloquy , in large part due to the vocal tone - at least I know you don't mind squeaky vocals now (something I was iffy about with one of my potential songs).

        I'll stick with what works............sending more hot guys :heybaby:

        I spent a lot of time listening to DGM the other day Evermind and my tip would be not to give up on them but track down their older stuff with Titta Tani on vocals , which is more power metal.  They remind me of early Vanden Plas in that when they went more prog , they took some time to find their feet in terms of the song writing matching their musical chops.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 25, 2016, 05:55:38 PM
        Oh nooooooo  :sadpanda: But hey, so far I am beating myself in comparison to last year! Not sure if that will be enough with these "enemies" though.

        This DGM tune was a safe kind of pick from my part. I love the tune myself but fully agree it doesn't stray from the usual powerprog. I just think the latest two DGM albums are quality and overall love the vocal melodies. I saw them opening for Symphony X once and liked them a lot so checked out their new record at that time (mildly related sidenote: Russel Allen also appears on their latest, which is always a good thing).

        I will sent the song I picked this round to you soon, I decided to stray away from the prog/rock/metal/sympho scene for this one and focus on an artist with many slower/ballady songs. This is because I feel many ballads are not representative for their respective artists as a whole at all. And I picked a more weird/risky song for round 3 as well, assuming I won't be cockblocked in a ballad round for that one (you never know around here though  :lol).

        Nice.............some interesting stuff in there.  I never really got into My Soliloquy , in large part due to the vocal tone - at least I know you don't mind squeaky vocals now (something I was iffy about with one of my potential songs).

        I'll stick with what works............sending more hot guys :heybaby:

        I spent a lot of time listening to DGM the other day Evermind and my tip would be not to give up on them but track down their older stuff with Titta Tani on vocals , which is more power metal.  They remind me of early Vanden Plas in that when they went more prog , they took some time to find their feet in terms of the song writing matching their musical chops.

        Well, I failed to cockblock you guys here so you are free to give him a better introduction to the band  ;D (I am not familiar with their back catalouge so I am actually interested as well).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 25, 2016, 07:50:57 PM
        I agree with whoever else said it, but I wouldn't have sent My Soliloquy either, but shows what we know.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 25, 2016, 08:12:33 PM
        An 8 is disappointing, I thought that song would fare better with you. :-\

        Sent Round 2.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 08:13:47 PM
        That DGM song was made me me take note on my 'to check out' list.  That's tastes huh?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 08:36:43 PM
        Sent something I had been saving for your roulette Kade (yes, a "ballad")  - I won't say "don't listen to it" as you won't be able to help yourself when you see who it is ( a duet of two of our favourite singers).   500 physical copies released back in the late 90's , so I wasn't worried about being cockblocked on this one  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 09:22:06 PM
        Sent something I had been saving for your roulette Kade (yes, a "ballad")  - I won't say "don't listen to it" as you won't be able to help yourself when you see who it is ( a duet of two of our favourite singers).   500 physical copies released back in the late 90's , so I wasn't worried about being cockblocked on this one  ;D

        Everything is mostly safe, I haven't been checking any of the other submissions in any roulette.  The DGM I stumbled across on youtube a few months ago.  This sounds interesting though, probably will have to check it out now.

        I wonder what it could be.  I ain't got a clue to be honest, two fav singers hey?  Could be loads of artists.

        EDIT: Nope, wouldn't have a clue.  Wouldn't know where to start.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 10:28:55 PM
        I shouldn't have opened my mouth and teased  :lol   In the end I probably wouldn't have submitted it in yours Kade (although I had it in your list),  as although the artist (solo) wouldn't have been on your banned list it is a (fairly drastic) reworking of a song you already know from his main band , so it likely wouldn't have been a fair submission/allowed. The song itself is from a Top 30 band of mine and the guy that reworked the song and duets with him happens to also be singer in one of both of our Top 10 bands .  How many singers would be in both of our top ten bands and capable of rewriting a classic metal song in ballad form?

        In Evermind's case though the original artist isn't on his banned list either so I am safe.   









        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 11:07:07 PM
        Damn, now I'm more intrigued.  Still no clue.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on February 26, 2016, 12:05:35 AM
        Fucking sweet yo...

        Gonna give my ballad one more spin before sending.....
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 26, 2016, 02:19:20 AM
        Well, regarding DGM, I will check out earlier albums and maybe this album too I think, but they will be near the bottom of the check-out list.

        About My Soliloquy, I don't know, this song just clicked with me big time.

        An 8 is disappointing, I thought that song would fare better with you. :-\

        In fact, I was really impressed with your song on my first listen, but it began to lose its appeal on the next few spins. Still, some of the participants never even received anything higher than 8 in my previous roulette, so 8 isn't that bad in my opinion.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 26, 2016, 02:20:07 AM
        Not the greatest round for the Dutch indeed, time to turn it around.

        Sent Animals as Leaders. This may or may not become the biggest regret in roulette history but whatever.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2016, 04:34:47 AM
        Round 2 sent.

        Not much thought again haha, but didn't need to.  This song came to mind when I saw ballad and knew I had to send it since this band was not on any of the banned lists.  Even if Ruslan doesn't like, I just couldn't send anything else.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2016, 04:40:42 AM
        Fat Girl (Thar She Blows)?   I was almost about to send it myself.  :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2016, 04:44:01 AM
        Fat Girl (Thar She Blows)?   I was almost about to send it myself.  :D

        I had to youtube this and saw it was Steel Panther.  This is actually the first I've ever heard of Steel Panther.  :lol  I like the subtle lyrics.  :laugh:

        I'm guessing the Here I Go Again verse and solo is intentional. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2016, 04:45:31 AM
        "I'm gonna buy you a million Happy Meals yeah..............." - classic ballad right there  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 26, 2016, 05:07:47 AM
        Well, I have no clue how this one will fare. I don't expect Ruslan to dislike this one, but if a ballad doesn't connect, it can be boring due to their (often) relaxed/slow/subtle nature. I know we share some favourite ballads (from what I have seen) but I also know there are a lot of opposite reactions (last roulette some ballads scored high which I wasn't fond of at all).

        Still, if you enjoy this song, this artist definitely has some nice and atmospheric tunes to enjoy.

        Anyways, I will send it within a few minutes!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 26, 2016, 05:36:12 AM
        Eight songs are in already. Looks like this will be quite a varied round in terms of music. Some well known bands / artists and a handful I've never heard of.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on February 26, 2016, 08:37:14 AM
        Sent!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 26, 2016, 10:12:45 AM
        I only need Mason and Chad to start listening at this point. No pressure, since it's not even 24 hours since the results, but the quicker I get them, the earlier I will be able to post pics / tidbits / results.

        You'll also get the first blurred pic once all songs are in. ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: TAC on February 26, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
        I'm surprised The Paralydium Project scored so poorly in the first round. I thought it was awesome, and the strongest song submitted by wide margin, though I did not sample the In The Silence or Vandroya.

        It has made me look at my Round 3 pick and I may have to make a switch.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 26, 2016, 02:03:11 PM
        Check out the In The Silence song man, it's awesome  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: TAC on February 26, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
        Check out the In The Silence song man, it's awesome  :metal

        OK...


        ..and it's quite interesting.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2016, 04:55:55 PM
        I'm surprised The Paralydium Project scored so poorly in the first round. I thought it was awesome, and the strongest song submitted by wide margin, though I did not sample the In The Silence or Vandroya.

        It has made me look at my Round 3 pick and I may have to make a switch.

        I kept sending the strongest song by a wide margin in the TAC Roulette and little good that did  ;D   I even sent Kip Winger in his jock strap in the qualifiers  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2016, 05:35:34 PM
        I even sent Kip Winger in his jock strap in the qualifiers  :metal

        You would have instantly won it if it was me.  Comp would have been over.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: TAC on February 26, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
        I'm surprised The Paralydium Project scored so poorly in the first round. I thought it was awesome, and the strongest song submitted by wide margin, though I did not sample the In The Silence or Vandroya.

        It has made me look at my Round 3 pick and I may have to make a switch.

        I kept sending the strongest song by a wide margin in the TAC Roulette and little good that did  ;D   I even sent Kip Winger in his jock strap in the qualifiers  :metal

         :lol

        Talk about a cockblock!

        I even sent Kip Winger in his jock strap in the qualifiers  :metal

        You would have instantly won it if it was me.  Comp would have been over.

        I'D RATHER LOSE!!!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 27, 2016, 05:47:26 AM
        Song will be sent shortly - I got sick as shit on my plane ride home Thursday, and spent virtually all of yesterday laid up in bed.  Meds have started to kick in, so naturally, this is the first thing/thread I'm doing this morning.  :)

        I'm just impressed I went 6/11 on my predictions.  Erhao... you really should've led with the opening track with Russell on the mic.  That was a very likely contender for me to submit - though, I guess it still could be since DGM isn't banned.   :biggrin:  They've got a couple of really sweet ballads.

        I too will echo the sentiments of shock that My Soliloquy won, and Paralydium Project was at the bottom.   :omg:  Never would have guessed that.  Tastes!

        Protip to everyone - stay away from Italian Power Metal... DGM, Odd Dimension, and Soul Secret all did poorly.  Then again, Absolute Priority did well, so who the hell knows!?!?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 27, 2016, 08:24:05 AM
        This is still very far away and only half of us will make it, but I need to know to adjust my list: The round where we have to send two songs, are they going to be scored completely separate? I have several options of songs that flow into eachother perfectly but I want to know if that's of any use in that round. If not I might use those artists for an open round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on February 27, 2016, 08:33:05 AM
        Yes, the songs in Round 7 will be scored completely separately, regardless of the flow or anything.

        I have everyone's entries except Mason, but to be fair he warned me he's really busy these days so he may be late with his entries. I'm starting listening to what I have right now, but there's nothing to worry about - I'll give his song a proper amount of spins when I get it.

        I'll post the pic when I get his song.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 27, 2016, 10:23:30 PM
        Soul Secret did poorly.

        That's because they are the very definition of "sub-mediocre".
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Only nightmares are real (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on February 28, 2016, 01:18:00 AM
        Yeah, well, I've got a song from Mason and he has to resend, just like it happened in the previous ballad round in my first roulette.

        Because I already know Song for a Dead Friend. :lolpalm:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This is how it is... (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 28, 2016, 04:57:29 AM
        I'm just impressed I went 6/11 on my predictions.  Erhao... you really should've led with the opening track with Russell on the mic.  That was a very likely contender for me to submit - though, I guess it still could be since DGM isn't banned.   :biggrin:  They've got a couple of really sweet ballads.

        Protip to everyone - stay away from Italian Power Metal... DGM, Odd Dimension, and Soul Secret all did poorly.  Then again, Absolute Priority did well, so who the hell knows!?!?

        Yes, probably  :P Oh well, I didn't send Trust because I think it is their greatest nor the greatest on it's actual album. I sent it because it was one of those songs that for me had an instant catchy hook and convinced me to give the album a spin initially. Same goes for the Serenity and Threshold songs I sent last roulette, for example.

        I recall hearding that Italian promo disc story of his before, so it is probably best to not remind Ruslan of those  :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Evermind on February 28, 2016, 10:09:14 AM
        Yeah, well. That DGM song was still quite good though.

        Anyway, it's time for the first blurred pic! This time it's different, you can see glimpses of bands - maybe recognize yours and a few more - but not the actual songs.

        (https://i.imgur.com/EdBhgHo.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 28, 2016, 10:21:42 AM
        I only regocnize mine, once again. Looks like some of them are singer-songwriters though, which was to be expected for this round.

        Also one of them kinda looks like The Kooks but I doubt it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 28, 2016, 10:24:21 AM
        I only regocnize mine, once again. Looks like some of them are singer-songwriters though, which was to be expected for this round.

        Also one of them kinda looks like The Kooks but I doubt it.
        Not The Kooks but The *Something* :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Evermind on February 28, 2016, 10:25:21 AM
        There's also The *Something* *Something* right at the top. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Crow on February 28, 2016, 10:37:37 AM
        no bird of sorrow?  :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 28, 2016, 10:38:49 AM
        Is that Demi Lovato(fourth from bottom)?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 28, 2016, 11:27:45 AM
        Mines at the bottom (just like my score  :sadpanda:)

        Is that Demi Lovato(fourth from bottom)?

        Thought the same  :lol

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: TAC on February 28, 2016, 12:49:54 PM
        Did someone send Slaughter??
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
        Did someone send Slaughter??

        I saw that and then thought "Nah..........."

        Sorta looks like it could be Fly To The Angels though.  If so , good to see some hair metal :)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: TAC on February 28, 2016, 01:06:28 PM
        I figure Slaughter has to at least beat Demi Lovato!

        I seriously cannot make out a single thing in that picture.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Sacul on February 28, 2016, 01:10:33 PM
        For a sec I thought someone had sent Deafheaven  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 28, 2016, 01:11:50 PM
        The Passion Flower
        ???
        Winger
        David Gilmour
        Luke Arkham
        Midnight Jon
        Slayer
        Slaughter
        Dan Lord
        ..... alfabet
        The Smiths
        Jett Rebel

        Am I close?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Sacul on February 28, 2016, 01:14:49 PM
        I really doubt someone would send David Gilmour :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 28, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
        THAT's your biggest concern of this list?  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Crow on February 28, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
        For a sec I thought someone had sent Deafheaven  :lol
        okay now i want to see evermind's reaction to deafheaven / how many seconds he lasted before turning it off
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 28, 2016, 01:20:04 PM
        The Passion Flower
        ???
        Winger
        David Gilmour
        Luke Arkham
        Midnight Jon
        Slayer
        Slaughter
        Dan Lord
        ..... alfabet
        The Smiths
        Jett Rebel

        Am I close?
        We all saw this one coming :D
        Also, ToN, you saw my correctly :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 28, 2016, 01:30:20 PM
        The Passion Flower
        ???
        Winger
        David Gilmour
        Luke Arkham
        Midnight Jon
        Slayer
        Slaughter
        Dan Lord
        ..... alfabet
        The Smiths
        Jett Rebel

        Am I close?

        Heh, not correct on the last one, alltough I did actually consider two non power/prog/rock/metal Dutch artists here for a moment. This one is no Dutch artist though ;)

        Even though I like Jett Rebel, he is no artist I would consider sending in this roulette (saw him live at a festival and to my surprise some solid rock and some cool Meat Loaf/Beach Boys esque material was played).

        Also, I indeed highly doubt Ruslan would let a David Gilmour song slide past his bancheck  :P Otherwise I am sending Ayreon next round, or something like that :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2016, 02:07:51 PM
        I can see RJ sending The Kinks.  And it does look like a Slipknot and/or Slaughter.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 28, 2016, 02:26:54 PM
        Slipknot does actually have some good atmospheric/emotional songs, so could be. Not familiar with Slaughter.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 28, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
        The Passion Flower
        ???
        Winger
        David Gilmour
        Luke Arkham
        Midnight Jon
        Slayer
        Slaughter
        Dan Lord
        ..... alfabet
        The Smiths
        Jett Rebel

        Am I close?

        Heh, not correct on the last one, alltough I did actually consider two non power/prog/rock/metal Dutch artists here for a moment. This one is no Dutch artist though ;)

        Even though I like Jett Rebel, he is no artist I would consider sending in this roulette (saw him live at a festival and to my surprise some solid rock and some cool Meat Loaf/Beach Boys esque material was played).

        Also, I indeed highly doubt Ruslan would let a David Gilmour song slide past his bancheck  :P Otherwise I am sending Ayreon next round, or something like that :lol

        Yea like half of those weren't serious. I jokikngly put Jett Rebel in there because it ended with 'bel' (I think) and I know you're dutch. Not a fantastic ballad writer though  :lol I caught him once at a small free festival and I can really dig one or two tracks, I definitely see Beach Boys resemblances, but I'm not a real fan.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 28, 2016, 07:13:06 PM
        I only recognize mine, once again.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 28, 2016, 07:18:42 PM
        The second one is Sylvan.

        The fifth one is mine.  Won't say what it is though until someone guesses it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2016, 07:47:26 PM
        I'll take a stab at No 4 -  Dave Kerzner 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Evermind on February 28, 2016, 09:51:22 PM
        The Passion Flower
        ???
        Winger
        David Gilmour
        Luke Arkham
        Midnight Jon
        Slayer
        Slaughter
        Dan Lord
        ..... alfabet
        The Smiths
        Jett Rebel

        Am I close?

        Midnight Jon. :lol :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on February 28, 2016, 09:59:19 PM
        I'll take a stab at No 4 -  Dave Kerzner
        :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 04:54:07 AM
        The third one is mine.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 05:19:52 AM
        The third one is mine.

        I hope you haven't cock blocked us on Winger.  I was saving Kip for the woodwind round. :eyebrows:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 05:28:23 AM
        The third one is mine.

        I hope you haven't cock blocked us on Winger.  I was saving Kip for the woodwind round. :eyebrows:

        Kip and his wood will be fully available in future rounds.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Just another false alarm (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 29, 2016, 06:22:36 AM
        :heybaby:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on February 29, 2016, 09:31:55 AM
        :lol

        Alright, here's the second picture. Should be enough to determine most songs, but even if some of them aren't clear, nothing to worry about, I'll post the clear picture without any blur along with the tidbits tomorrow.

        I should say, it seems the scores will be less consistent this round. Some of you guys scored big, there's one contestant for the first perfect score in this roulette, and some of you... well, didn't.

        (https://i.imgur.com/dsZQsu1.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Crow on February 29, 2016, 09:34:57 AM
        lol someone actually send slipknot
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 29, 2016, 09:51:31 AM
        Pretty easy to pick out RJ's submission.  Goin local, eh bro?  :lol

        Kade's gotta be the W.A.S.P.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 29, 2016, 09:53:49 AM
        Now it looks like "Midnight Jon Cena"
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 29, 2016, 09:55:44 AM
        Now it looks like "Midnight Jon Cena"
        That's what I thought! Except I think there's a '&' sign inbetween, so maybe a band called Midnight with a guest appearance of John Cena and Evermind misspelled it.

        Also who the hell cockblocked me on Slipknot? What the hell man.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 29, 2016, 09:58:38 AM
        Last one is Agnes Obel, singer-songwriter.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 29, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
        Pretty easy to pick out RJ's submission.  Goin local, eh bro?  :lol


        I thought Mechanical Poet was Russian? 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 29, 2016, 10:04:37 AM
        Pretty easy to pick out RJ's submission.  Goin local, eh bro?  :lol


        I thought Mechanical Poet was Russian?

        Exactly.  Local for our host.

        Also who the hell cockblocked me on Slipknot? What the hell man.

        I'm reasonably certain it wasn't me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on February 29, 2016, 12:33:03 PM
          and some of you... well, didn't.

        Awesome! This is mine! ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 01:33:30 PM
        Someone sent Snuff by Slipknot, interesting selection.

        Kade's gotta be the W.A.S.P.

        Well...

        The third one is mine.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 29, 2016, 01:46:50 PM
        Someone sent Snuff by Slipknot, interesting selection.

        Kade's gotta be the W.A.S.P.

        Well...

        The third one is mine.

        Paying attention - I suck at it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 02:06:08 PM
        Hey, I am the king of it, don't worry about it haha.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 02:08:42 PM
        Looks like Fly To The Angels was correct..

        The Smiths : Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me is in there?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on February 29, 2016, 02:13:39 PM
        I could see the Smiths, but I don't know shit by them, so had no idea what the track could be.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on February 29, 2016, 02:15:37 PM
        Looks like Fly To The Angels was correct..

        Looks like The Smiths : Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me is there.
        Yes, The Smiths are mine. I'm hoping for some song-with-the-longest-title bonus points :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Elite on February 29, 2016, 02:50:59 PM
        Sixth one is 'Painted Skies' by Midnight & Jon Oliva
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on February 29, 2016, 02:55:27 PM
        The fifth is the only one I still haven't figured out, could make another playlist once I know that one but I don't know if I'm ready for a round full of ballads.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on February 29, 2016, 03:01:33 PM
        Lee Abraham - Distant Days
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: ErHaO on February 29, 2016, 03:39:05 PM
        Expected Slipknot after the first pic, didn't expect Snuff (though length of word could've given me an indication now that I think of it).

        In can confirm Agnes Obel, the last one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 08:44:30 PM
        Sixth one is 'Painted Skies' by Midnight & Jon Oliva

        Ah ha, forgot to look for Brents song, but this is it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 02:11:29 AM
        The fifth is the only one I still haven't figured out, could make another playlist once I know that one but I don't know if I'm ready for a round full of ballads.

        You should. This round is excellent barring a few songs. Besides, the variety in the songs is great, and there are some occasional heavy / fast-paced moments too.

        In fact, right now I'm not even sure which round I like more. It has weaker low points, yes, but the best songs are fantastic.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 02:57:36 AM
        Expected Slipknot after the first pic, didn't expect Snuff (though length of word could've given me an indication now that I think of it).
        I did consider one of the dark/atmospheric tracks for various roulettes, but not this one. I actually thought Snuff would be one of the most predictable Slipknot songs for a ballad round, maybe Vermilion Pt. 2 (which I considered) but I didn't feel comfortable sending an acoustic song for some reason.

        The fifth is the only one I still haven't figured out, could make another playlist once I know that one but I don't know if I'm ready for a round full of ballads.

        You should. This round is excellent barring a few songs. Besides, the variety in the songs is great, and there are some occasional heavy / fast-paced moments too.

        In fact, right now I'm not even sure which round I like more. It has weaker low points, yes, but the best songs are fantastic.

        I'll probably give in to curiosity and do it anyway, this round's a bitch regarding Spotify though, nearly half of it is not available on Spotify and I think one of them wasn't even on youtube. :emo:


        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 01, 2016, 05:07:39 AM
        Not sure if mine is on Youtube or not (I know it isn't on Spotify), but it can be found on Bandcamp.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 05:10:48 AM
        The version I sent of mine isn't on Spotify.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 05:13:55 AM
        Mine is on Spotify!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 05:23:47 AM
        I'd assume mine would be available everywhere.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 05:25:05 AM
        And you'd be wrong.  There's actually quite a limited amount of W.A.S.P. on Spotify.  That's why I had to make a deaf purchase - but totally worth it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 05:27:53 AM
        I can't tell what WASP tune it is.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 05:29:53 AM
        I can't tell what WASP tune it is.

        I thought it would be pretty obvious.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 05:35:20 AM
        The version I sent of mine isn't on Spotify.
        I think I know which one is yours then, glad it's on youtube at least. The Mechanical Poet one is the song I couldn't find on spotify nor youtube.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 05:38:47 AM
        I can't tell what WASP tune it is.

        I thought it would be pretty obvious.

        Animal (Fuck Like A Beast) ?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 05:39:08 AM
        I can't tell what WASP tune it is.

        I thought it would be pretty obvious.

        I got it. The Idol.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 05:39:48 AM
        Animal (Fuck Like A Beast) ?

        Damn. I was holding that back for The Love Song Round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2016, 06:31:21 AM
        The version I sent of mine isn't on Spotify.
        I think I know which one is yours then, glad it's on youtube at least. The Mechanical Poet one is the song I couldn't find on spotify nor youtube.

        You won't, it's not anywhere. I had to send him the track.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
        I wish everyone sent me the tracks. It's way more convenient to me. I've got 8 actual files this time around and only 4 YouTube links, which makes me happy. I don't count the spins - I spin all your songs a lot (I'd say ~10 spins average) - but the songs sent to me as the actual files may actually receive one or two more listens overall.

        Tidbits later this evening.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 09:35:49 AM
        I used this to compile the youtube links that were sent to me in The TAC Roulette:
        https://www.youtube-mp3.org/

          - but the songs sent to me as the actual files may actually receive one or two more listens overall.

        Hmm...I'm one of the Youtube guys.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 09:46:45 AM
        I'm ont of the Youtube guys aswell, I guess I could send you mp3 files from here on through the MEGA.nz thing, but honestly, getting one or two listens - for better or worse - probably doesn't change much at the amount of 10 listens.

        Since it's basically no effort I'll go with mp3 anyways from here on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 09:50:06 AM
        I used this to compile the youtube links that were sent to me in The TAC Roulette:
        https://www.youtube-mp3.org/

          - but the songs sent to me as the actual files may actually receive one or two more listens overall.

        Hmm...I'm one of the Youtube guys.

        Your YouTube link didn't work for the second time in a row, I guess it has something to do with my country or I dunno. :lol I've found your song on some site I know though.

        Since it's basically no effort I'll go with mp3 anyways from here on.

        Yep, please do that if you can. As I said, it'll be much move convenient for me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 09:51:00 AM
        Is your email in the OP? do you want to PM it to me if not.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
        Is your email in the OP? do you want to PM it to me if not.

        No, it's not in the OP. Sent you a PM with my e-mail address.

        If anyone needs my e-mail address for sending the files, don't hesitate to ask, I'll forward it to you.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 09:58:03 AM
        Yes me please!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 01, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
        Is it ok if I upload song to OneDrive and just send link to it?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 10:49:37 AM
        I think so. Someone of the participants is doing just that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Trapping warmth everywhere (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 11:00:52 AM
        I think so. Someone of the participants is doing just that.

        He means me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 12:24:21 PM
        Here we go, first goes the pic with all the songs and then the tidbits.

        (https://i.imgur.com/VkoZ0mf.jpg)

        This feels like some David Gilmour’s supposed-to-be B-side, which didn’t make the album because it wasn’t quite a bit up to par with the rest of material.

        Musically, this is quite good indeed. But… why does the singer sometimes sound like he’s throwing up?

        This is so eerie and haunting, somber and dark, yet soulful at the same time. Didn’t expect this at all.

        This tune features a very Blind Guardian-esque view on ballads, if I may say so. It’s got this epic power metal feel underneath, especially the ending.

        That’s like recent Avantasia’s Lucifer. In both cases I wonder, did the guys suddenly forget — somewhere in the middle of the song — that they were kind of intending to play a ballad?

        I still can’t decide if this song is fabulous or brilliant. It’s probably both. This is what everyone should’ve stuck with if they wanted the highest scores in the round. Of course, that would've made this round dull, but, well... in fact, there is one other song like this one, and guess what, you’re the winner and that one is the runner-up of the round.

        Results either tomorrow (Wednesday) or Thursday (more likely). I won't rush it, but if I have time tomorrow, I'll do them tomorrow. No promises.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 12:35:58 PM
        Gotta hope mine is this one:

        This is so eerie and haunting, somber and dark, yet soulful at the same time. Didn’t expect this at all.

        If not I don't think any of these is mine, we'll see!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Crow on March 01, 2016, 12:37:23 PM
        the throwing up one is obv slipknot  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
        That would rock my world because I could at no point in the song "Snuff" point out something that resembles throwing up  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2016, 12:41:37 PM
        That one can't be Slipknot. It's the vocalist who sounds like he's throwing up, not me. :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
        This is so eerie and haunting, somber and dark, yet soulful at the same time. Didn’t expect this at all.

        Slipknot or The Smiths

        I still can’t decide if this song is fabulous or brilliant. It’s probably both. This is what everyone should’ve stuck with if they wanted the highest scores in the round. Of course, that would've made this round dull, but, well... in fact, there is one other song like this one, and guess what, you’re the winner and that one is the runner-up of the round.

        Mechanical Poet or Sylvan

        That’s like recent Avantasia’s Lucifer. In both cases I wonder, did the guys suddenly forget — somewhere in the middle of the song — that they were kind of intending to play a ballad?

        My song! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Crow on March 01, 2016, 12:47:51 PM
        to be fair I've never heard that specific song but the ones I have heard do have vocals that sound like he could be throwing up so
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 01, 2016, 12:51:25 PM
        That one can't be Slipknot. It's the vocalist who sounds like he's throwing up, not me. :neverusethis:

        I'm sending you a 19 minute Slipknot song next round screw it, you're a mean host  :'(
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 01:06:48 PM
        I can see how someone might think Mark Slaughter has a little verp in his mouth at times.

        Erie/haunting - W.A.S.P. or Mechanical Poet.  Fits both.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 02:17:33 PM
        Mine is definitely not comments 1,2,4,5.  Aside from that I have no idea if mine gets a mention, although it could possibly be called "haunting".

        Blackie should start paying you royalties Kade :)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
        Brent, you must've sent Jon Oliva. He sounds like he is throwing up!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:30:16 PM
        Blackie should start paying you royalties Kade :)

        It's getting that way, especially if I can get a high score and covert another one.  :tup

        Brent, you must've sent Jon Oliva. He sounds like he is throwing up!

        What the hell?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:33:56 PM
        Just kidding.

        I thought the throwing up comment was about Blackie as he sounds like he's got a mouthful of marbles sometimes.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:52:12 PM
        Just kidding.

        I thought the throwing up comment was about Blackie as he sounds like he's got a mouthful of marbles sometimes.

        He just looks like that these days.  Old Blackie needs to get back in shape.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 03:09:08 PM
        Brent, you must've sent Jon Oliva. He sounds like he is throwing up!

        Well Evermind obviously likes the vomiting sound as Savatage is one of his highlighted bands.  You obviously prefer constipated (Bruce Dickinson's high range)  :lol


        Just kidding.

        I thought the throwing up comment was about Blackie as he sounds like he's got a mouthful of marbles sometimes.

        He just looks like that these days.  Old Blackie needs to get back in shape.

        I think Blackie might have stolen Yngwie's donuts.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
        I'm sorry, but NO ONE has eaten more donuts than Jon Oliva!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 03:27:20 PM
        I'm sorry, but NO ONE has eaten more donuts than Jon Oliva!

        Don't count as he's thrown them up  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 03:28:27 PM
        And I thought Binge & Purge was a Metallica release!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2016, 06:53:49 PM
        I'm sorry, but NO ONE has eaten more donuts than Jon Oliva!

         :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 01, 2016, 07:28:21 PM
        This feels like some David Gilmour’s supposed-to-be B-side, which didn’t make the album because it wasn’t quite a bit up to par with the rest of material.
        Mine.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2016, 08:45:42 PM
        Erie/haunting - W.A.S.P. or Mechanical Poet.  Fits both.

        I do hope it's Mechanical Poet, I'd consider that a win since it's exactly the effect I was hoping for.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 02, 2016, 10:18:59 AM
        Brent, you must've sent Jon Oliva. He sounds like he is throwing up!

        In fact, I agree with that, but somehow I still like his voice a lot.

        I'm sorry, but NO ONE has eaten more donuts than Jon Oliva!

        Don't count as he's thrown them up  :lol

        This exchange really lightened up my mood this morning at work. :rollin

        So, well, the bad news is there will be no results today. I'm having a hard time rating the songs. I know my two clear favourites, and I also know which song is the third best in this round, but other than that... I listen to those three best songs and I think, hell, everything else I've got in this round is alright but pales in comparison really; then I listen to the rest of the songs and I think, hell, these are pretty great, most of these deserve an 8 at least; and then the best songs come up again and I think, damn, 8 is too high for those other songs.

        It's also really difficult to resist just putting the best two songs on repeat and call it a day. Anyway, if nothing drastic and unexpected happens, I'll deliver the results tomorrow. Now it's time to listen to all the songs again...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
        See, these are the advantages of a stack-rank method.  Once you get over the mental issue that realizing the song that gets a 12 isn't necessarily 12x better than the song that gets a 1, it's a lot easier (imo).  You just got to put them in order of preference.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 02, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
        See, these are the advantages of a stack-rank method.  Once you get over the mental issue that realizing the song that gets a 12 isn't necessarily 12x better than the song that gets a 1, it's a lot easier (imo).  You just got to put them in order of preference.

        Well, I also don't like the idea giving a song that is quite good (say, 7.5 points good) 2 points just because the competition was stronger in the round. I'm not sure, but I think it could be kind of frustrating for the participants.

        The old school rating out of 10 works just fine for me. There's also the fact I've somehow gathered 12 roulette players that have quite an excellent grip on my tastes here, so it's way more difficult to rate the songs than it was before, in that first roulette of mine. I guess I just need a few more listens to figure it out.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 02, 2016, 01:04:09 PM
        See, these are the advantages of a stack-rank method.  Once you get over the mental issue that realizing the song that gets a 12 isn't necessarily 12x better than the song that gets a 1, it's a lot easier (imo).  You just got to put them in order of preference.

        To me, if I had to stack rank the songs, I think that'd be impossible. What I found was that a couple rise to the top, a couple fall to the bottom, but most are in the middle.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2016, 01:09:16 PM
        And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how TAC came to be known as "the breast inspector" in high school.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 02, 2016, 01:28:14 PM
        (https://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd270/gagejv/freemamogram.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 02, 2016, 01:31:04 PM
         :rollin

        I considered stack-ranking in my roulette aswell, but the only pro I could think of was eaze of handing out scores. I just wouldn't be able to do the songs justice as I pretty much liked way more than half the songs I got enough to give it a 7.5 or higher.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Elite on March 02, 2016, 01:34:22 PM
        ^ I once did a variant of the stack ranking where I would give one song a 1, two 2's, two 3's, two 4's and one 5 and that worked pretty well. I did elimination things in subsequent roulettes. I don't really like the idea of 'rating' music, usually there a clear favourite and a clear worst song in the round and that latter just loses that round and is out. Makes it easier for me to play judge and the participants know what they're up to as well.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2016, 01:47:54 PM
        Meh... I got no problem stack ranking things - I have no issue in accepting (or judging) that not everything is equally good/great.  Sure, two songs may both be an 8/10, but I'm ok with saying I like one of them better than another.  That's why I always did the stack-rank method.

        Personal preference... that's all.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 02, 2016, 01:53:51 PM
        Well at least stack rank is better than rack stank!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 02, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
        ^ I once did a variant of the stack ranking where I would give one song a 1, two 2's, two 3's, two 4's and one 5 and that worked pretty well. I did elimination things in subsequent roulettes. I don't really like the idea of 'rating' music, usually there a clear favourite and a clear worst song in the round and that latter just loses that round and is out. Makes it easier for me to play judge and the participants know what they're up to as well.
        That's a cool idea, was there a penalty for 'almost being eliminated' too? Or did everyone start fresh at the start of a new round? Must suck to be eliminated after one round though  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Elite on March 02, 2016, 02:02:36 PM
        If I remember correctly in my last roulette I wouldn't eliminate anybody in the first two rounds, to try out tastes. I didn't do any penalties or bonuses for well-scoring songs. In my first roulette I did way too complicated things with scoring, teams, bonus point et cetera. I made it easiest as possible both for me and the participants: worst song of the round is out, rest stays in.

        Aaaaaaaaand back to Evermind's roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Sacul on March 02, 2016, 02:10:31 PM
        Must suck to be eliminated after one round though  :lol
        It does, that's why I hate that system - if I used it I probably wouldn't have found that Lechuga song you sent me on my own :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 02, 2016, 02:13:03 PM
        I probably would've sent it anyway because that song felt like it was made exactly to fit your tastes, pretty much every little element it included was something I thought you'd like. You also wouldn't have found that amazing Apocalyptica song  :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Sacul on March 02, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
        I still haven't listened to it or any of the submissions :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 01:27:44 AM
        I don't like this elimination-in-each-round format at all. It doesn't allow you to screw up even once.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 04:49:54 AM
        I thought Chad's method was really brilliant and seriously considering the same method for my roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2016, 04:58:52 AM
        I don't like this elimination-in-each-round format at all. It doesn't allow you to screw up even once.

        Survivor formats have their pros and cons.

        I thought Chad's method was really brilliant and seriously considering the same method for my roulette.

         :blush
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 03, 2016, 07:06:01 AM
         :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2016, 07:47:30 AM
        (https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2d/2d87beb2b00959d6e2746b9bea7e400da8c0e4cc320b096953b74b9d4924360c.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 08:26:06 AM
        Well I couldn't tell my boss "hey man, I've got them roulette write-ups to do, mind if I leave a few hours earlier today?", so I have only just arrived home from work.

        Now I need to cook up something to eat and then I'll sit down to write. I don't want to do the one-sentence-long write-ups too, so I guess the estimated time is 4-5 hours from now on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 03, 2016, 08:29:21 AM
        Well I couldn't tell my boss "hey man, I've got them roulette write-ups to do, mind if I leave a few hours earlier today?", so I have only just arrived home from work.

        Now I need to cook up something to eat and then I'll sit down to write. I don't want to do the one-sentence-long write-ups too, so I guess the estimated time is 4-5 hours from now on.

        Priorities: get them right
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Sacul on March 03, 2016, 08:57:27 AM
        I approve of one-sentence write-ups  :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2016, 10:08:30 AM
        I approve of leaving work early for Roulette reporting.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 10:28:39 AM
        I approve of leaving work early for Roulette reporting.

        Me too, but I still like my work just enough to know better than try something like that. Besides, I've got to get money somewhere to buy all the CDs you folks are introducing me to. :lol

        Just finished my final listen. This is such a strong round. Results in 2-3 hours from now on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A bold move... Just for the sake of it (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 03, 2016, 11:14:24 AM
        (https://d2lkacpp4m5oo7.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/PlanetHype.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
        Here are the results. Please don't be offended if you've got a low score, and don't lose hope either, there's plenty of chances anyone will screw up since we've got four rounds ahead of us until we reach the elimination point.

        Round 2 Results:

        wolfking: W.A.S.P. – The Idol

        You know, I’ve never given W.A.S.P. a fair chance. To be honest, I never gave them any chance. I knew they were among the so-to-say classic heavy metal bands, I knew they had this ridiculous band name, I knew they had those ridiculous album titles like Kill Fuck Die (Consider this question, what are you willing to fuck for?) and gruesome ones like The Headless Children; so I decided I just shouldn’t bother. I was sure this band is way off my comfort zone. And it’s definitely too early to talk about it, but with this song you might’ve caused me to do a complete 180° turnaround and managed to convert me into this band. Because this is just fantastic in every way.

        I’ve always said the best way to achieve a perfect score in my roulette was likely through sending a ballad, and this is the best confirmation I can imagine. This song has it all. There’s this intro to set you into the story, and then there is this tense, immersive sounds of heart beating faster and faster… and then here it comes, the musical heaven or something. Wonderful acoustic arpeggios with some simple guitar licks, the bass line, the perfect vocal melodies, longing guitar solo and some magnificent guitar fills between the lines, simple yet classy drumming… this song just has it all. Not a single flaw in the whole composition. I have a lot of superlatives for this tune, but I imagine the rest of participants want to see their write-ups too, so I’ll try to be concise.

        I still can’t decide if this song is fabulous or brilliant. It’s probably both. This is what everyone should’ve stuck with if they wanted the highest scores in the round. In fact, there is one other song like this one, with this classic heavy metal ballad vibe… and guess what, you’re the winner and that one is the runner-up of the round. I’ve debated if I should give this a perfect score or not, and I thought, well, what the hell? I love this song so much; I might as well reward you with ten points for this one.

        10/10

        TAC: Dead Lord – The Bold Move

        Well, after this setback with The Paralydium Project you definitely needed something to stay strong in the competition, and you pretty much nailed it with this entry. You didn’t win the round, true, but only because Kade knocked it out of the park with his song.

        You described this song perfectly in your PM, this indeed reminds me a lot of early Rainbow – which I love – and it does indeed have this distinctive 70s vibe. Truth be told, I find it difficult to believe this was actually recorded just a year ago: this song just gives off this 70s vibe so strikingly. I think I’ve accidentally made a point while playing in the other people roulettes: I tend to say I send them my favourite ballads and use songs from artists like David Gilmour, Jon Lord, Mark Knopfler… but that’s only half of my favourite ballads. Another half is those classic metal ballads like early Rainbow, Deep Purple, Sabbath, Judas Priest – I just don’t dare to send them in roulettes, because either the host already knows it, or he will dislike it big time. Last time I’ve sent When a Blind Man Cries in a roulette, I’ve got 6/10 or something like that.

        And both Kade’s song and yours are a great example of those old ballads I’m so fond of. The very first guitar passage in this song had me hooked. Once again, this song has everything I like this much – I’ve listed those in Kade’s writeup – but the main distinction is that this tune, well, isn’t strictly a ballad. It does a fine job being a ballad in the first half, but then… then it’s like recent Avantasia’s Lucifer. In both cases I wonder, did these guys suddenly forget — somewhere in the middle of the song — that they were kind of intending to play a ballad? Because after the three minutes mark this tune speeds up considerably, kicking into full force with this sweeping guitar solo, pounding rhythm guitar riff and bass and drums, repeating the same vocal melody with much more intensity than it did before. And you know what, I said I’m not going to be strict with the themes, and what’s more important, I just love this song a lot, so here’s this great score for you.

        9.5/10

        Big Hath: The Mayan Factor – Warflower

        You might’ve thought I didn’t care much about your song after I screwed up the band’s name while posting the first blurred picture – in this case you were dead wrong. This song is very curious in a way it was fairly unique to this round. I don’t think I’ve heard something like this before, and certainly not in a ballad round – but I like this choice. It’s unconventional, but this song certainly feels like a ballad overall.

        I would say the band’s name has this flavour that aptly describes the song’s vibe; I don’t know why but I subconsciously connect this song to some older eclectic culture. Might be the acoustic guitars, or maybe those things like tambourines outlined with cymbals (no idea how those are called, but I have a feeling they’re featured on this song. I’m probably wrong.), or maybe the strange voice the singer has, a bit raspy, a bit indifferent, yet so persistent and addictive. The vocals are the main reason this song is so appealing to me, I think, it’s something different for me yet it’s also something familiar and captivating. I should also mention the great mix that emphasizes bass quite a bit.

        That wasn’t something I expected to get in a ballad round, but it’s excellent nonetheless. Nice job.

        9/10

        bl5150: Midnight & Jon Oliva – Painted Skies

        You’re known for sending me the fantastic ballads. One could even say the ballads were what allowed you to win the first edition of this roulette, and I wouldn’t be the one to argue that. But for all the songs you’ve sent me earlier, this is something different entirely.

        I said Jon’s song was unique, and I stand by my words. Yet this song is unique in its way too. It’s so eerie and haunting, somber and dark, yet soulful at the same time. The ominous, heavy, low piano notes are setting the mood and the stark voices of both Midnight and Jon Oliva rip the veil apart, somehow both puncturing, slashing the carefully painted picture and yet adding more necessary colour, enhancing it. The vocals on this song are walking the fine line between being annoying (I swear Jon Oliva sounds he’s trying to hold the retches somehow) and being fascinatingly fantastic, and I decided that for me it’s definitely the latter, but I can see how someone can dismiss this tune because of vocals. I guess being a big fan of Savatage helps on this front. I love when they end the choruses with those soft “You can fly / Fly away” lines.

        Like in the write-up above, I really didn’t expect to get this kind of song from you. Doesn’t make it less great though. I’ve enjoyed it a lot.

        9/10

        Dr. DTVT: Lee Abraham – Distant Days

        Singer-songwriters are always a bit of gambling with me. I mean, I know it sounds weird because I love some of them and actively promote them in those roulettes, but usually there’s no guarantee if the material will click with me or just fall flat. I wouldn’t say this song fell flat, not at all, but I also can’t see it reaching the four songs above.

        As far as most of singer-songwriters go, this one is admittedly in the top half of my list already. The relaxed acoustic guitars, steady vocals, once again a bassline brought forward, everything about this song is pleasant. I like how it’s mostly in minor key (I hope it is, because I have little idea what I’m talking about, but it sounds sad, so it should be in minor key.), so it’s definitely an improvement over that Xen song you’ve sent to me in my first roulette. The best part is probably a guitar solo in the middle.

        This tune could’ve scored much better if it had a singer that would appeal to me more. Unfortunately, as it is, it’s fifth out of twelve – but with such the competent players, I’d call this a win if I were you.

        8.5/10


        Tomislav95: The Smiths – Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me

        Heh, The Smiths. They were another band on my radar that I often intended to check out, but with the amount of music I get here and there – and there’s always some recommendations on DTF too – I just hadn’t have the chance to see what they were about. Now that you provided me the opportunity I longed for, I was quite eager indeed.

        And I’ve got to say, this song is weird in its own beautiful way. I mean, yes, it’s depressing as hell, with beautiful and sad vocals, the simple yet poignant lyrics of a lonely man, but it’s also has something quirky I can’t quite pinpoint. Well, not counting the two-minutes-long intro with some crowd noises behind it. When the real song kicks in, it gets mostly fantastic, but it still doesn’t sound right. Is it some unnatural chord progression or something? I feel I should love this, but something in the instrumental part just keeps me from enjoying it as much as I could. I also think the melodies on the second part could’ve been better (“Before the last one / before the right one / but it goes on” moments). I gladly admit that the musings in the ending with “it goes on” going all dreamy are fabulous though.

        No bonus points for you for the longest song title, but hey, I think you should have enough points on your own.

        8/10


        lonestar: Mechanical Poet – Clue of a Scarecrow

        So yep, sure, I’ve seen you sending this band in some roulettes and that was one of the reasons why I didn’t go ahead and check them out. In fact, I was waiting for you to send them to me in the first edition, but you didn’t and maybe that was why you lost? That InnerShine song didn’t get you a lot of points in the ballads round back then, you know.

        This song is good. It’s not like, well, mindblowing good, but it has it’s absolutely great moments and it also has some turn-offs. It features a very Blind Guardian-esque view on ballads (reminds me of The Maiden and the Minstrel Knight), if I may say so. It’s got this epic power metal feel underneath, sometimes slightly on a generic and cringeworthy side, but on the other hand it has some great vocal melodies, nice unusual instrumentation and fine structure. I like how eerily beautiful and calm this song starts (your description in the e-mail enhanced the beginning a lot), and I love how the singer goes all-out high in the harmonic ending. However, I dislike how he goes into the prolonged “ooooh-oooh-oh-yeah” at 2:15 and when he sounds like he’s drunk right on the passage after that (“The coveys of migrants pass out of sight”), well, it doesn’t really help the song, in my opinion.

        Still, it was quite good. Sadly, no bonus points for you too, Russian band or not.

        8/10

        Train of Naught: Slipknot – Snuff

        Well, it’s interesting. That’s what I decided after I got around the initial disbelief someone actually dared to send me Slipknot, because, well, while I can put my hands in the air, I can’t jump the fuck up – I live at the fifth floor, my neighbours would curse me into oblivion or something. But it’s really interesting. First off, the song isn’t half as bad as I thought it will be – somewhere deep down, mind you, because I approached it with an open mind – and second, it’s funny to see people losing to a Slipknot song in my roulette.

        This tune isn’t what I expected from Slipknot at all. It’s actually a nice ballad with some alternative rock/metal vibe attached, mostly visible (hearable?) due to the vocals style and technique; the acoustic guitars throughout the song add the texture, and the synths kicking in after the intense choruses are elevating the song to another level. The lyrics are somewhat generic, but they don’t detract me from enjoying the song – except in one particular instance, and a pretty stupid one too. I guess being a non-native English speaker has something to do with it, but during the line “The air around me still feels like a ca…ge” with this obvious pause during the word “cage” I always think he’s going to say “cake”. It even makes sense. The air gets thick like a cake and you can’t breathe. That makes sense. Yep.

        I actually wrote quite a lot about this song – well, 250 words or something – but I really didn’t write anything of substance I guess. It’s enjoyable, but it’s nothing special. I like the overall vibe about this song, and I like how it gets more intense in the end too. But hey, the air around me feels like a cake so I’m going to move on to another song.

        8/10

        Bolsters: Dave Kerzner – Secret

        And you’re the first person who lost to Slipknot! Well, that happens.

        You’ve got your tidbit right. This indeed feels like some David Gilmour’s supposed-to-be B-side, which didn’t make the album because it wasn’t quite a bit up to par with the rest of material. The problem is, it sounds much like those rare David Gilmour’s songs I don’t care about – it’s like The Blue mixed with Today, two songs I tend to see at my least favourites from their respective albums. It’s got those unimpressive and unappealing vocal melodies from Today mixed with overall forced calmness of The Blue. The first part of this tune was difficult to sit through, even though I enjoyed the small atmospheric additions of lap steel guitar and whatnot. The chorus was the biggest letdown I guess. I was really glad to hear it picking up the pace and quality somewhere around ~3:30. That’s where it really started to sound like an interesting song.

        I’ve got to say, this artist has a remarkably similar voice to Gilmour, and I think he nailed the atmosphere Gilmour tends to create almost perfectly. The peaceful, relaxed vibe of this song is something he does a lot. However, he failed to write interesting vocal melodies (not entirely, but mostly), and there are no hooks in the instrumental parts too. It was a good call knowing that I love David Gilmour’s stuff, but unfortunately it didn’t pay off. The song was good… it just wasn’t too good. Sorry to disappoint you once again.

        7.5/10

        senecadawg2: Sylvan – Not Far From the Sky

        This song is curious, too. On one hand, it has this glorious orchestral instrumentation along with piano and other things; on the other hand, it could’ve existed just fine without the vocals except for one fantastic moment.

        I mean, yes, I got chills during “This is a magical and pure and extraordinary time!” passage, but that’s about it. The instrumental parts, they’re chilling and beautiful. I feel this song is a bit disjointed, and maybe removing the vocals and making the transitions more smooth would’ve helped it out. I honestly don’t know – I’m not a musician – but something about this song felt way off, and it was much more pronounced than that The Smiths song. I liked the orchestra parts, the strings inclusion, the piano… I just can’t remember anything about vocals except that small moment I mentioned, and keep in mind I listened to this song nine or ten times, and I was paying attention during those. Guess it’s not for me.

        7.5/10

        ErHaO: Agnes Obel – Riverside

        And here’s an example of singer-songwriter song that didn’t do it for me.

        I mean, it’s not exactly bad. It’s not even average, I liked some parts, but it’s not good either. The piano arrangements are good; the vocal melodies are alright too (nothing more though), and the lyrics are quite good, but her voice and her slight accent are way too noticeable for me, and that dampens my enjoyment of the song a lot. It’s not like I don’t have the accent or something – hell, you witnessed and heard it yourself – but I don’t strive to sing too. I’m sorry but I didn’t finish watching the video – it had that shaking camera effect that I tend to stay away from, as you warned.

        As I said, it’s not bad, but it’s not too good either. It’s a nice little song that could’ve been something else, but well, it is what it is. If it’s any consolation, your statistics in my roulettes say you will send an awesome song next round!

        6.5/10

        jingle.boy: Slaughter – Fly to the Angels (Acoustic)

        Uh, so, Chad… remember when in the preliminary rounds you said I had to grow the balls, pick out the worst songs and just eliminate them? Well, don’t hold it against me, I’m just following your own advice here. I can’t eliminate “them”, but I sure as hell can rate them low. Sorry about that in advance.

        You know, after the first two listens I rated this song as 4/10. It kind of grew on me on the next couple of listens, but it’s still the weakest of the bunch. Don’t get me wrong, musically, this is quite good indeed. But… why does the singer sometimes sound like he’s throwing up? I’m thinking how good this song could’ve been with another singer with less annoying voice, and I’m amazed at all the possibilities, but instead I’ve got this. I totally get how this song could be personal, especially if you grew up enjoying the band, and I don’t want to sound offensive or insolent or disrespectful, but the singer was a major turn-off for me. When he sang with the clean vocals, it was fine, but when he went raspy… well, that wasn’t my thing at all.

        6/10

        Bands added to banned list:

        W.A.S.P.
        Dead Lord
        The Mayan Factor
        Midnight & Jon Oliva
        Lee Abraham
        The Smiths
        Mechanical Poet
        Slipknot
        Dave Kerzner
        Sylvan

        The scoreboard:

        wolfking - 18.5
        bl5150 - 18.5
        Big Hath - 18
        lonestar - 17.5
        Dr. DTVT - 17.5
        TAC - 17


        (the cut-off line, will matter after Round 6)

        Tomislav95 - 16.5
        Train of Naught - 16
        Bolsters - 15.5
        senecadawg2 - 15
        jingle.boy - 14.5
        ErHaO - 13.5
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
        Round 3: Open

        So after you've sent me those depressing, sad and slow songs (or not), it's time for you to get the free reign again. Send whatever you think I'll like.

        The time-limit for this round is 10 minutes.

        Send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 03, 2016, 01:10:47 PM
        Now I'm glad I sent The Smiths in the end :tup. I was like: "Should I send song 1 or song 2? Nah, I'll send The Smiths". I will definitely make playlist right now and listen to all songs in round 2, I love ballads.
        You can expect my submission today, I'm still not 100% sure should I sent this artist, but I have backup.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 03, 2016, 01:13:06 PM
        Hellz yea, getting Slipknot on the banned list is quite the accomplishment. With the limited amount of ballads I had that fit your tastes I'm pretty happy with another 8. Still in the bottom half of contestants though, time to shape up. Had 2 or 3 more ballad-like songs on my playlist for your roulette but I don't think they'll do as good as this one, so I'll probably stay away from ballads in the future rounds.

        I tried some of the songs on here, but I think I will never do a ballads round because it's so hard to find something that speaks to the host just as much as the person who sends, even though the #1 song of my entire roulette was a ballad.  :lol

        I think I know what I'm going to send for round 3 but I'll give it some more though anyway.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 01:17:02 PM
        Ballad rounds are awesome, I love doing them. If I knew you'd appreciate that David Gilmour song that much, I would've bombarded you with ballads. Maybe next time!

        Of course, I don't know how it will turn out in this particular roulette, but in the last one I've received two (mostly) best ballads in Round 7 which was open. :lol

        I will definitely make playlist right now and listen to all songs in round 2, I love ballads.

        You really should. I think you'll be amazed at the songs' variety in this round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2016, 01:20:39 PM
        Well, that's what I get for going with my heart vs my head.  80s Glam is such hit and miss with those that weren't there in its prime.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 03, 2016, 01:24:08 PM
        Ballad rounds are awesome, I love doing them. If I knew you'd appreciate that David Gilmour song that much, I would've bombarded you with ballads. Maybe next time!

        Oh  :| I was actually talking about Arc of Space, that was my favorite, but the Gilmour song was very close, #2 or 3.

        And I guess at the end of this roulette I will compile some similar-ish songs if you plan to (at least that's what I did/am doing) check out bands whom you liked the submission from, because you will definitely get lost trying to check out Slipknot on your own, even moreso if you don't have a house in which you can jump the fuck up  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2016, 01:28:23 PM
        Well, that's what I get for going with my heart vs my head.  80s Glam is such hit and miss with those that weren't there in its prime.

        Yeah, well, I even said this much in the write-up. I'm sure my rating would've been different if I grew up on songs like this one.

        But if there's one rule I've learned playing in the roulettes, you should never regret going with your heart picking the song. The important thing is that you love the song. Never send the song you don't like. If the host didn't like your pick, well, that's his problem, because you know the song is awesome.

        That resulted in some hilariously low scores for me though. :lol

        Oh  :| I was actually talking about Arc of Space, that was my favorite, but the Gilmour song was very close, #2 or 3.

        I know you were. The Gilmour comment was unrelated to your #1 ballad comment, actually. It's just you ranked it 10/10, which means you enjoyed the hell out of it. And that Evergrey song too. Wish I knew that before.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Sacul on March 03, 2016, 01:30:08 PM
        Indeed  :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 03, 2016, 02:13:35 PM
        Eh, I can live with it. Fuck ballad rounds.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 03, 2016, 02:27:19 PM
        Dammit Wolfking!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
        I was quietly confident with the Idol, but you still never know.  I'm glad you love it so much Ruslan, The Crimson Idol definitely needs to be on your to buy list, it's brilliant.  I can see how WASP would be a band that you a wary of.  I was too when all those years ago my guitar teacher mentioned the name.  But, he have me a copy of The Crimson Idol and it changed.  Even then when I fell in love with the album I was still cautious of the other stuff, but now, they are a top 10 band, probably top 5, I don't know.

        This was one of the only times in a roulette that once I saw the theme and saw that WASP was not on the banned list, it was instant, and that song came to my head.  I don't think I've ever been so quick and confident to choose, good stuff.

        Probably will never ever happen again though.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2016, 04:13:35 PM
        Happy enough - I'm always that focused on finding rare stuff that I sometimes miss what's staring me in the face from some of my favourite bands   :lol  Well done Kade.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
        Happy enough - I'm always that focused on finding rare stuff that I sometimes miss what's staring me in the face from some of my favourite bands   :lol  Well done Kade.

        Guilty of that plenty of times mate.

        But my boy Blackie has gotten me two home runs in two roulette's.  Arena of Pleasure killed it too in Chad's roulette.  I should probably be paying Blackie royalties!  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 03, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
        If it was the calmer beginning that was your least favourite part of the song (which seems to be the case from the writeup), it's probably worth checking out the album eventually - it does have a bit of serene stuff like this but most of it is stuff that has a fuller sound.

        Anyway, hopefully I can redeem myself a bit with this next submission.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 03, 2016, 08:47:40 PM
        Sent. If this one pays off, some peeps are gonna be hella pissed...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 09:05:45 PM
        I'll get something in tonight.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 03, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
        80s Glam is such hit and miss with those that weren't there in its prime.

        To quote Major League,

        "Most of these bands never had a prime."
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2016, 09:17:46 PM
        I'll get something in tonight.

        Good to hear :eyebrows:

        Sent something last night - some "up and comers" in power metal.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 03, 2016, 09:40:54 PM
        I sent the first power metal band I ever got into. It holds a special place in my heart, so stomp on it with maximum care. Hopefully I can make up the two points to survive into the later rounds.

        Train of Naught: Slipknot – Snuff

        it’s funny to see people losing to a Slipknot song in my roulette.

        Funny wasn't the first word that came to mind, for me. I shouldn't judge though--I've not heard this song
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 10:01:22 PM
        I'll get something in tonight.

        Good to hear :eyebrows:

        Sent something last night - some "up and comers" in power metal.

        Sounds good.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 03, 2016, 10:09:03 PM
        Sent.  Still have plenty of ammo.  I just hope I can keep up my 8.5 clip.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 03, 2016, 10:10:33 PM
        alright!  I'm relieved you liked that one.  I was actually worried the most about the vocals on that song, and it seems to have been the standout feature!  It's kind of a Kurt Cobain/Maynard James Keenan mix to my ears.  I agree it's kind of an unconventional song for a ballad round, but I think it works - glad you agree!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 04, 2016, 01:53:18 AM
        The important thing is that you love the song. If the host didn't like your pick, well, that's his problem, because you know the song is awesome.

        You're right, I will hook you up with some Gojira for the next open round.  :metal :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 04, 2016, 02:04:29 AM
        The important thing is that you love the song. If the host didn't like your pick, well, that's his problem, because you know the song is awesome.

        You're right, I will hook you up with some Gojira for the next open round.  :metal :metal
        He is missing out a lot for not listening to Gojira. One of my favorute moments in their discography is that "breakdown" : "PLASTIC BAG IN THE SEA! (I'm not kidding)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 04, 2016, 02:09:16 AM
        The important thing is that you love the song. If the host didn't like your pick, well, that's his problem, because you know the song is awesome.

        You're right, I will hook you up with some Gojira for the next open round.  :metal :metal
        He is missing out a lot for not listening to Gojira. One of my favorute moments in their discography is that "breakdown" : "PLASTIC BAG IN THE SEA! (I'm not kidding)
        I would say the same, but some bands aren't cut out for some people, especially when they can't stand harsh vocals. My favorite moment is probably the outro to The Art of Dying, it sounds so creepy and haunting. I always thought the ending represented death and it does one hell of a job.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 04, 2016, 02:13:32 AM
        I would say the same, but some bands aren't cut out for some people, especially when they can't stand harsh vocals. My favorite moment is probably the outro to The Art of Dying, it sounds so creepy and haunting. I always thought the ending represented death and it does one hell of a job.
        Yeah, those are not even typical harsh vocals so I can't see anyone who doesn't lik growls to like Gojira.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2016, 05:35:16 AM
        Sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 04, 2016, 06:16:23 AM
        The important thing is that you love the song. If the host didn't like your pick, well, that's his problem, because you know the song is awesome.

        You're right, I will hook you up with some Gojira for the next open round.  :metal :metal

        I don't even know what their music is like, but I already dislike the band's name. :lol

        If it was the calmer beginning that was your least favourite part of the song (which seems to be the case from the writeup), it's probably worth checking out the album eventually - it does have a bit of serene stuff like this but most of it is stuff that has a fuller sound.

        I'll probably end up checking out most of the stuff that got 7.5 or more points, it's just I won't prioritize this album. Nice to hear that, by the way.

        I sent the first power metal band I ever got into. It holds a special place in my heart, so stomp on it with maximum care. Hopefully I can make up the two points to survive into the later rounds.

        Train of Naught: Slipknot – Snuff

        it’s funny to see people losing to a Slipknot song in my roulette.

        Funny wasn't the first word that came to mind, for me. I shouldn't judge though--I've not heard this song

        I can imagine. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 04, 2016, 10:34:14 AM
        Alright folks, nine people are in already. Seven of them sent me the song files, I'm really happy about that. You guys rule.

        Let's see, I only need Chad, Jon and Casper and I can begin listening to this batch of songs. The obligatory blurred picture will be up when everyone's in.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 04, 2016, 10:50:57 AM
        currently deciding from a handful of songs

        will send something shortly
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 04, 2016, 12:04:11 PM
        I only need Chad, Jon and Casper

        Who is the friendly ghost?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 04, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
        sent
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 04, 2016, 05:56:29 PM
        I only need Chad, Jon and Casper

        Who is the friendly ghost?

        :D

        It's ErHaO. By the way, now he's the only one who hasn't sent me anything yet. I also sent out some warnings about some bands I received so far, so perhaps some participants will want to change their songs for this round, we'll see.

        I hope I'll get the last song tomorrow so I can start listening to the tunes and hopefully have results up by Tuesday or Wednesday.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 04, 2016, 07:47:07 PM
        Train of Naught: Slipknot – Snuff

        it’s funny to see people losing to a Slipknot song in my roulette.

        Funny wasn't the first word that came to mind, for me. I shouldn't judge though--I've not heard this song
        Just like I assume some of you did last round I sent something with a high emotional impact, this is nothing like your average Slipknot song, it's actually one of my all-time favorite ballads. My 2 favorite ballads were by bands that were on the banned list, this was my #3.
        It might sound weird, but I think with my musical library, Slipknot was the best option for a ballad round I had in an Evermind roulette.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 05, 2016, 04:31:43 AM
        I've got everyone (thank you all for sending your tunes so quickly), but Chad is still deciding if he wants to stick with his original song - I'm slightly familiar with the band he sent and I didn't enjoy what I've heard from them too much - or change his entry, so we wait a bit.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Kiss away the pain and leave me lonely (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2016, 05:02:50 AM
        Submission confirmed.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 05, 2016, 11:30:56 AM
        So that means everyone's in! I wasn't able to post earlier, visited the local record store to see what they've got now. Turns out they suck, they had only The Headless Children and Helldorado from W.A.S.P. (no The Crimson Idol, and I decided I should buy this one first and then see how it'll go), but I managed to find some good albums to buy. This round of albums was very Tomislav-influenced.

        (https://i.imgur.com/NEVaTBM.jpg)

        (Yeah, those are pillows with cats. Deal with it.)

        No +4626-Comfortzone, sadly, but I heard Mammoth is very decent too, so I decided I'll get it. And this Queensryche album, well, I wanted to get it a long time but somehow always forgot to do so.

        Now, here's the blurred picture. Not sure how much you'll be able to make out, but this will do until the next one.

        (https://i.imgur.com/sPiA4Y6.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 05, 2016, 11:42:27 AM
        Love those cat pillows :metal BTW even if you don't like Strangeways check The Queen is Dead (it is in my top 50).
        I can see A.C.T., Orphaned Land, Odyssey(don't know this band so I'm not sure about the name) and one looks like Arcturus(?)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Elite on March 05, 2016, 11:42:35 AM
        I think I can see Iris Divine, Leprous, A.C.T. and Orphaned Land in there.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Crow on March 05, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
        A.C.T. and Leprous are pretty blatant, yeah  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 05, 2016, 11:45:43 AM
        The second one looks like Thanksgiving  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 05, 2016, 11:47:07 AM
        I think the ninth is Suspyre, considered sending something off their self-titled but I guess that's not gonna happen. Though honestly I had doubts about them for this roulette, I'm curious what Evermind thinks of them if that's actually Suspyre.

        Oh and those pillows kick major ass  :metal :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2016, 11:54:35 AM
        I see my #5 song of all time there - which I was considering for this round - but I wouldn't have been able to submit if I had wanted to since I was last.  I suspect either RJ or Brent sent it.  I think I see Nocturnal Rites, Thunderstone and Dream Evil ... three more to  scratch off my list of possibilities. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 05, 2016, 01:24:52 PM
        On my phone as I am on holiday, so I will respond and share more in the thread in a few days.

        But yes, I took a song that is different in approach compared to my last two songs, as it has quite some twists and turns. I am fairly certain Ruslan enjoys (many of the) the elements of the band I sent in particular. How the way those elements are combined in the actual songwriting will fare, however, will be unknown for at least a few days from now. This artist does tend to have some weird and unconventional combinations, so quite some songs are growers. I think I took a bit of a middle ground with the song I sent.

        Aso, yes, I am Casper! Never heard that nickname though (this sentence should be green, but cellphone).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 05, 2016, 01:33:09 PM
        Whoever sent Iris Divine is getting going to get cock punched.  I was going to send that in a future round.

        Looks like the third one is Triumph, and they are a Chad staple so it wouldn't surprise me to see them sent by someone.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2016, 02:09:49 PM
        Looks like the third one is Triumph, and they are a Chad staple so it wouldn't surprise me to see them sent by someone.

        That would be the #5 song of all time for me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: lonestar on March 05, 2016, 03:37:20 PM
        Looks like the third one is Triumph, and they are a Chad staple so it wouldn't surprise me to see them sent by someone.

        That would be the #5 song of all time for me.

        I said in my message it was a top 5 song for me.  :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2016, 04:33:17 PM
        Looks like the third one is Triumph, and they are a Chad staple so it wouldn't surprise me to see them sent by someone.

        That would be the #5 song of all time for me.

        I said in my message it was a top 5 song for me.  :biggrin:

        The lyrics still bring me to tears sometimes.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2016, 04:51:51 PM
        I have had success with my targeted guessing so far so ..........here's mine (from those left/not obvious)

        Chad - Damnation Angels : Pride (The Warrior's Way)

        Damnation Angels got down to my final two for this round , but I went with another one in the end.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 05, 2016, 05:31:03 PM
        I was going to send Pride in a future round. :yeahright
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 04:34:38 AM
        Early bird gets the worm.  Let's hope that worm is worth a 9+ this round... otherwise I might pull a Bolsters for the remaining 3 rounds.   :P :-*
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 06, 2016, 06:07:01 AM
        Early bird gets the worm.  Let's hope that worm is worth a 9+ this round... otherwise I might pull a Bolsters for the remaining 3 rounds.   :P :-*

        It's not like you had awful scores so far. Yeah, I know 6 isn't that nice, but 8.5 in the first round is a good score in my book.

        I'm two listens in and it seems this is another fantastic round, a bit of the heavy side this time. Second picture today, tidbits tomorrow, results either Tuesday or Wednesday as I said before.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 06:28:47 AM
        It's not like you had awful scores so far. Yeah, I know 6 isn't that nice, but 8.5 in the first round is a good score in my book.

        Perhaps not, but dude... I'm in 11th place.  Doesn't matter if they're not absolute "awful" scores, they are awful relative to the competition.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 06, 2016, 06:48:44 AM
        It's not like you had awful scores so far. Yeah, I know 6 isn't that nice, but 8.5 in the first round is a good score in my book.

        Perhaps not, but dude... I'm in 11th place.  Doesn't matter if they're not absolute "awful" scores, they are awful relative to the competition.

        It's because people haven't started actively screwing up. Just watch it, usually happens in Round 3 or later. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 06, 2016, 06:50:28 AM
        Loving the pace on this, very frequent updates aswell with the blurred pictures and stuff to keep it active.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: TAC on March 06, 2016, 07:17:14 AM
        Loving the pace on this, very frequent updates aswell with the blurred pictures and stuff to keep it active.

        Yes definitely.  Great job so far Evermind! :tup


        I'm two listens in and it seems this is another fantastic round, a bit of the heavy side this time.
        I hope that's OK!

        I sent something on the heavier side. I thought it might be a risk seeing how Seneca did with The Paralydium Project. I also had something very catchy ready to go that I thought Ruslan would like, but I went went with my heart instead of my head.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Darkness of the everworld (Blurred picture #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 08:11:22 AM
        Loving the pace on this, very frequent updates aswell with the blurred pictures and stuff to keep it active.

        Yes definitely.  Great job so far Evermind! :tup

        Agreed.

        I sent something on the heavier side. I thought it might be a risk seeing how Seneca did with The Paralydium Project. I also had something very catchy ready to go that I thought Ruslan would like, but I went went with my heart instead of my head.

        Well, you're screwed!   :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 06, 2016, 11:08:34 AM
        And here's the second picture. I've got to say, you guys are pretty good at recognizing those blurred bands. I'm surprised.

        (https://i.imgur.com/HTW9Y19.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Crow on March 06, 2016, 11:30:44 AM
        ahh, a failed escape attempt

        evermind might like that more than i did, dunno  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 06, 2016, 11:33:15 AM
        You gave it an 8 outta ten which seemed pretty nice by your grading standards, but your writeup wasn't too nice about it.  :sadpanda:

        I got that same Triumph song in my roulette, not bad.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Crow on March 06, 2016, 11:35:32 AM
        fwiw my grading scale in the first roulette kind sucked. it's gonna be way harsher next time, 8/10 should've been more like 6.5 or 7/10
        i stand by the 10 i gave limousine though

        it's just that, 8/10 ended up being "i like this but i'm probably not going to look further into it, at least not now" which is... 8/10 should actually be quite good all things considered  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 06, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
        Yea.. I imagine you haven't checked the album either, or even the song, after the roulette. Which is good, because it's probably all the things you hate.
        I had no idea of your tastes and just sent pretty random shit, if I were to make a playlist for you now, no way in hell A.C.T would be on it  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Sacul on March 06, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
        Leprous and Orphaned Land? Nice.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Crow on March 06, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
        with few exceptions, everything in the 8.0 or lower tier i haven't looked into at all, i will eventually but i have so much other stuff anyways  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Sacul on March 06, 2016, 11:53:16 AM
        I'll check everything that gets at least a 4 in my roulette, and below that only the albums that are on my list :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Crow on March 06, 2016, 11:54:07 AM
        good thing the two 3's you've given me were both on your list  :corn

        granted i've only sent one song (now two) that weren't on your list, out of 9 rounds, so  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
        Leprous and Orphaned Land? Nice.

        I'll laydown a c-note and say Doc sent one of those two... my guess is Orphaned Land.

        Other predictions:
        Dream Evil - Kade
        Iris Divine - Tim
        Triumph - RJ
        Suspyre - Brent
        Nocturnal Rites - Big Hath
        Leprous - Seneca
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 06, 2016, 01:40:47 PM
        Leprous and Orphaned Land? Nice.

        I'll laydown a c-note and say Doc sent one of those two... my guess is Orphaned Land.

        Other predictions:
        Dream Evil - Kade
        Iris Divine - Tim
        Triumph - RJ
        Suspyre - Brent
        Nocturnal Rites - Big Hath
        Leprous - Seneca
        You're wrong about at least one of those :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 06, 2016, 01:56:47 PM
         

        Other predictions:
        *snip*

        I had you down for Dream Evil as you mentioned you were listening to them the other day.

        Iris Divine - Tim

        Kind of obvious since I did start this thread!
        https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43576.msg1945951#msg1945951
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 02:05:14 PM
        I had you down for Dream Evil as you mentioned you were listening to them the other day.

        I know.... pretty ironic, eh?

        protip - Brent's a smart cookie.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 06, 2016, 04:01:47 PM
        I figured he liked Myrath, so Orphaned Land could probably have the same hit rate.  I like OL more than Myrath, but I had to lay off my absolute favorites due to harsh vocals (you're all pussies).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 06, 2016, 04:05:29 PM
        Leprous and Orphaned Land? Nice.

        I'll laydown a c-note and say Doc sent one of those two... my guess is Orphaned Land.

        Other predictions:
        Dream Evil - Kade
        Iris Divine - Tim
        Triumph - RJ
        Suspyre - Brent
        Nocturnal Rites - Big Hath
        Leprous - Seneca

        I might've sent Leprous if I'd known they weren't banned, but that one slipped under my radar.

        I did send one of the other bands you listed, though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 06, 2016, 04:07:05 PM
        I might've sent Leprous if I'd known they weren't banned, but that one slipped under my radar.


        Yeah, I'm missing a lot of ones that I think are "obvious" bands because I just assume they are off the table.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2016, 04:30:54 PM
        Leprous and Orphaned Land? Nice.

        I'll laydown a c-note and say Doc sent one of those two... my guess is Orphaned Land.

        Other predictions:
        Dream Evil - Kade
        Iris Divine - Tim
        Triumph - RJ
        Suspyre - Brent
        Nocturnal Rites - Big Hath
        Leprous - Seneca
        You're wrong about at least one of those :D

        Make that two.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 06, 2016, 04:42:34 PM
        I have Kade down for Nocturnal Rites.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2016, 04:51:25 PM
        I have Kade down for Nocturnal Rites.

        Hmmmmm..........

        On a side note, not to make this by myself, but I'm pleasantly surprised, asthere's a lot of artists getting submitted lately in these roulettes that I don't know.  Even though my banned list will be crazy long, some bands featured that I've never heard are;

        Leprous
        Susprye
        Iris Divine
        Arion
        Brand New
        Marketa Irglova
        Glass Mind
        Pantommind
        Sufjan Stevens
        Bent Knee
        My Soliloquy
        Black Fate
        Vandroya
        Beyond the Black
        In the Silence
        Odd Dimension
        The Paralydium Project

        Good stuff.

        Anyway, carry on.


        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 06, 2016, 04:57:25 PM
        I haven't actively checked out artists from this roulette yet, but I do remember really liking the two female fronted songs in round 1 (if I remember correctly there were just 2), aswell as the Beardfish song. I plan on doing so though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 05:40:11 PM
        I have Kade down for Nocturnal Rites.

        Hmmmmm..........

        On a side note, not to make this by myself, but I'm pleasantly surprised, asthere's a lot of artists getting submitted lately in these roulettes that I don't know.  Even though my banned list will be crazy long, some bands featured that I've never heard are;

        Leprous
        Susprye
        Iris Divine
        Arion
        Brand New
        Marketa Irglova
        Glass Mind
        Pantommind
        Sufjan Stevens
        Bent Knee
        My Soliloquy
        Black Fate
        Vandroya
        Beyond the Black
        In the Silence
        Odd Dimension
        The Paralydium Project

        Good stuff.

        Anyway, carry on.

        No peaking!  Better leave them on your "available" list. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: lonestar on March 06, 2016, 05:44:13 PM
        One thing I've learned since being on DTF, my new favorite band is always right around the corner. There is so much out there...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Sacul on March 06, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
        One thing I've learned since being on DTF, my new favorite band is always right around the corner. There is so much out there...
        Absolutely this.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 06:16:09 PM
        One thing I've learned since being on DTF, my new favorite band is always right around the corner. There is so much out there...

        DTF is responsible for at least 97% of my musical discoveries in the last 6 years.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2016, 06:41:07 PM
        I have Kade down for Nocturnal Rites.

        Hmmmmm..........

        On a side note, not to make this by myself, but I'm pleasantly surprised, asthere's a lot of artists getting submitted lately in these roulettes that I don't know.  Even though my banned list will be crazy long, some bands featured that I've never heard are;

        Leprous
        Susprye
        Iris Divine
        Arion
        Brand New
        Marketa Irglova
        Glass Mind
        Pantommind
        Sufjan Stevens
        Bent Knee
        My Soliloquy
        Black Fate
        Vandroya
        Beyond the Black
        In the Silence
        Odd Dimension
        The Paralydium Project

        Good stuff.

        Anyway, carry on.

        No peaking!  Better leave them on your "available" list.

         :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
        Leprous and Orphaned Land? Nice.

        I'll laydown a c-note and say Doc sent one of those two... my guess is Orphaned Land.

        Other predictions:
        Dream Evil - Kade
        Iris Divine - Tim
        Triumph - RJ
        Suspyre - Brent
        Nocturnal Rites - Big Hath
        Leprous - Seneca

        I don't believe that my band has got a mention as yet,
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2016, 09:18:46 PM
        Well then it's gotta be Armour.  Only you would be playing a band that none of any of the other 11 had heard of!   :biggrin:

        "If Udo Dirkschneider and Blackie Lawless would have a bastard son, his name would be Vince Venom"   :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2016, 12:39:06 AM
        Well then it's gotta be Armour.

        Close  :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: lonestar on March 07, 2016, 06:37:18 AM
        And here's the second picture. I've got to say, you guys are pretty good at recognizing those blurred bands. I'm surprised.

        (https://i.imgur.com/HTW9Y19.jpg)

        There was a small part of me that was hoping someone sent in Thundersword. :lol


        Well then it's gotta be Armour.

        Close  :D

        Armory- Beyond the Horizon

        Listening now, if this scores well, I may have a few things to add to my list that should be lights out.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2016, 06:56:26 AM
        Well then it's gotta be Armour.

        Close  :D

        That's too bad... I was really liking the description they gave themselves - especially of Vince Venom (THAT is a quality handle right there).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: lonestar on March 07, 2016, 07:17:34 AM
        Well then it's gotta be Armour.

        Close  :D

        That's too bad... I was really liking the description they gave themselves - especially of Vince Venom (THAT is a quality handle right there).

        Seriously. That is a man who lived up to his childhood dreams!!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 07, 2016, 11:27:05 AM
        I might've sent Leprous if I'd known they weren't banned, but that one slipped under my radar.

        Well, about Leprous, The Congregation was off the table - and I liked The Congregation - but the rest was game, so small wonder someone decided to use this particular hole.

        Just got home. I was able to listen a few more times to all the tunes today and I will have tidbits posted in a couple of hours.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
        I have Kade down for Nocturnal Rites.

        Hmmmmm..........

        On a side note, not to make this by myself, but I'm pleasantly surprised, asthere's a lot of artists getting submitted lately in these roulettes that I don't know.  Even though my banned list will be crazy long, some bands featured that I've never heard are;

        Leprous
        Susprye
        Iris Divine
        Arion
        Brand New
        Marketa Irglova
        Glass Mind
        Pantommind
        Sufjan Stevens
        Bent Knee
        My Soliloquy
        Black Fate
        Vandroya
        Beyond the Black
        In the Silence
        Odd Dimension
        The Paralydium Project

        Good stuff.

        Anyway, carry on.

        No peaking!  Better leave them on your "available" list.


        BOLDED!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2016, 01:23:58 PM
        Okay, I got it.  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Comets of fire raining down (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 01:26:34 PM
        (https://www.troll.me/images2/skeptical-baby/yea-you-better.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 07, 2016, 01:46:45 PM
        Here we go, the full songs list and the tidbits. Results most probably Wednesday, I don't feel I'm familiar enough with the songs to set the deadline tomorrow.

        (https://i.imgur.com/QAmTs1N.jpg)

        Hell, the way this band entwines both the traditional metal approach and the strikingly unusual elements is worth a round of applause. It was jarring for the first few spins, but there’s no way I can say those parts are feeling out of place now.

        Drawing influences from the band that is your source of inspiration is one thing, but pushing it too far in one particular direction is another thing entirely.

        This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singer's voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. One of the highlights from this round indeed.

        Wow, I’m having trouble determining the heaviest song of the round. I’ve got a long heavy song and I’ve got your song. My best advice is not to listen to those back-to-back unless you’re either a big fan of heavier music or you want to get a headache.

        You said there’s one singer, but I’m sure I can hear the female vocals in the end (singing in Japanese, apparently?). Either I’ve got a 425’s syndrome (not being able to tell male vocals from the female ones) or you provided me the wrong information.

        I’m not an expert on those things, but I really think the production could use more punch here. All these build-ups to the choruses fall a bit flat otherwise.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 01:52:02 PM

        Wow, I’m having trouble determining the heaviest song of the round. I’ve got a long heavy song and I’ve got your song. My best advice is not to listen to those back-to-back unless you’re either a big fan of heavier music or you want to get a headache.


        Uh oh! Mine is likely the long heavy one and the result was a headache. Not good.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2016, 01:56:55 PM
        Well, I know which is mine, and I guess I should've been EXPLICITLY clear that A) I was being somewhat facetious, and B) there is one MALE singer.  The female spoken part doesn't really count.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 07, 2016, 01:57:58 PM
        I feel like this round at least one of the tidbits is mine, I'm having trouble saying for sure which one though, there's like three that could very well apply, I just hope it's not the flat production one.

        First and third quotes are a bit more hopeful.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 07, 2016, 01:59:35 PM
        Well, I know which is mine, and I guess I should've been EXPLICITLY clear that A) I was being somewhat facetious, and B) there is one MALE singer.  The female spoken part doesn't really count.

        Don't worry, it won't affect the score. :biggrin:

        Uh oh! Mine is likely the long heavy one and the result was a headache. Not good.

        Only if you listen to two songs back-to-back!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 07, 2016, 02:06:01 PM
        Hard to be too confident when half the songs don't have tidbits, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 3rd one was mine. Definitely a moderately heavy song with plenty of hooks and memorable vocal melodies. Can't really see it being any of the other tidbits.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 02:15:05 PM
        Uh oh! Mine is likely the long heavy one and the result was a headache. Not good.

        Only if you listen to two songs back-to-back!

        Great! Now it'll be my turn to get the "no, really a 6.5 is a decent score" speech.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2016, 02:31:53 PM
        Uh oh! Mine is likely the long heavy one and the result was a headache. Not good.

        Only if you listen to two songs back-to-back!

        Great! Now it'll be my turn to get the "no, really a 6.5 is a decent score" speech.

        I wish I could've had a 6.5!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 07, 2016, 02:35:24 PM
        But 6 is a decent score too!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2016, 02:39:23 PM
        But 6 is a decent score too!

        (https://media.giphy.com/media/jFJW3hOGQgTUk/giphy.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 02:45:20 PM
         :lol

        Oh great! :facepalm:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2016, 02:51:33 PM
        Interesting tidbits.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 03:01:05 PM
        This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singer's voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. One of the highlights from this round indeed.

        Definitely the Nocturnal Rites.

        Hell, the way this band entwines both the traditional metal approach and the strikingly unusual elements is worth a round of applause. It was jarring for the first few spins, but there’s no way I can say those parts are feeling out of place now.

        Definitely Suspyre.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
        This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singer's voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. One of the highlights from this round indeed.

        Definitely the Nocturnal Rites.



        Could've been mine but not much grit in there , so I doubt it.   I am not convinced that mine is in there.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 07, 2016, 03:47:55 PM
        It isn't.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2016, 03:55:59 PM
        This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singer's voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. One of the highlights from this round indeed.

        Definitely the Nocturnal Rites.

        I was actually thinking this would be the Thunderstone
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 07, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
        This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singer's voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. One of the highlights from this round indeed.
        Could be mine. Fingers crossed.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
        This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singer's voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. One of the highlights from this round indeed.

        Definitely the Nocturnal Rites.

        I was actually thinking this would be the Thunderstone

        I thought NR or either Thunderstone too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 08, 2016, 02:31:57 AM
        That Thunderstone song is excellent, don't know why I still haven't gotten around to checking out that Thunderstone album from my roulette.

        Listening to these songs I'm getting less and less confident that either of #1 or #3 is mine  :lol most fit the description way better.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 08, 2016, 08:13:45 AM
        Gave about half of this round a spin, seems like this round will be my favourite so far, some good tunes for sure! Third description is not mine I think, but so far it seems a bit universal, depending on one's definition of epic and catchy.

        I think the first description fits my song very well, which is Reign by Suspyre. I mean, it starts out with some clear symphonic music, goes into prog metal, with some jazzy(?) saxophone solo's inbetween and then suddenly, prior to the main solo section, a little folksy jam, only to end the whole thing with something that resembles electronic music. My initial reaction to the song (and a lot of the band's material) was similar. They have more straightforward stuff, but also stuff that is weirder, but much of their material has a fresh feeling to it due to having unexpected elements.



        And as for the last round: Oh well, I really like Agnes Obel myself, but can see what bothers you here. To me it seems more stylistic rather than a straight "natural" accent. Many pop artists of varying nations sing similar to this, actually (though I am not sure I would call Agnes Obel pop, I do actually think she is one of the more popular artists sent in this roulette, bar the really famous ones like Slipknot). I knew I was taking a "risk" though. Oh well, still tracking ahead of myself, which will become more difficult now.

        I gave most songs a spin and I overall liked this round, much better than last years ballad round for me personally. Also, if you like Snuff, there are at least some other Slipknot and Stone Sour songs worth a try (Vermillion part 2., Bother, Circle, Danger Keep Away, Wicked Game cover etc.).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 08, 2016, 08:42:27 AM
        Gave about half of this round a spin, seems like this round will be my favourite so far, some good tunes for sure!

        You don't say. Every round is amazing so far, I'm sure I've got the right 12 people for this roulette. I couldn't be happier with the participants' list.

        Also, if you like Snuff, there are at least some other Slipknot and Stone Sour songs worth a try (Vermillion part 2., Bother, Circle, Danger Keep Away, Wicked Game cover etc.).

        Well, I'm looking for the bands I can stomach their whole discography or most of the albums first and foremost, so Slipknot is somewhere far at the edge of my radar.

        Results tomorrow. I think I know most of the songs quite well, but there are some tunes that I won't mind to listen to again, and I don't feel like doing the write-ups now. I'd rather do a few more spins. Anyway, I'm doing one round in a week and sometimes less, so I guess it's a good pace.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 08, 2016, 09:11:39 AM
        Well, I'm looking for the bands I can stomach their whole discography or most of the albums first and foremost, so Slipknot is somewhere far at the edge of my radar.

        Yeah, that's what I imagined would be the case :lol I do genuinely like Slipknot myself I must say (and, ironically, actually kind of dislike Snuff).

        The pace is great so far and I still haven't decided for the next round, so no hurries!  :P Would've preferred cockblocks for the other rounds but oh well, I do have several songs in mind.

        By the way, I asked this question before but couldn't really find the answer you referred to; Do you mind instrumentals?. And, with that, artists who are mainly into instrumentals? (as I try to send songs that represent the artist well). Though the case of the artist I have in mind there are definitely vocals, but used in similar fashion to the instruments rather than actual lyrics.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 08, 2016, 09:55:15 AM
        About round 4: does those instruments need to be prominent in song? Or is it ok if there is just, for example, violin playing few notes in background here and there?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 08, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
        By the way, I asked this question before but couldn't really find the answer you referred to; Do you mind instrumentals?. And, with that, artists who are mainly into instrumentals? (as I try to send songs that represent the artist well). Though the case of the artist I have in mind there are definitely vocals, but used in similar fashion to the instruments rather than actual lyrics.

        Here it is (page 6):

        What are your feelings about instrumentals Mr Evermind?   

        Well, I like me a good instrumental sometimes, but it can easily fall flat too. Stream of Consciousness is actually my Top 10 DT song, so there's that. The instrumental should have something memorable for me to like it. I also seem to have a soft spot for non-metal instrumentals, beautiful and folky and acoustic. I seem to like these more.

        Send it and find out I guess.

        About round 4: does those instruments need to be prominent in song? Or is it ok if there is just, for example, violin playing few notes in background here and there?

        It's okay if it's just in the background. I've said before I don't want to be too restrictive with the theme, but some of the best examples of the songs I want to receive are Dire Straits - Your Latest Trick and DT - Another Day. But anything will do. You'll see it when I post the write-up.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Elite on March 08, 2016, 11:53:03 AM
        I'm pretty sure none of those tidbits is mine.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2016, 01:47:14 PM
        Next round might prove a challenge.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 08, 2016, 09:41:16 PM
        Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand  :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 08, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
        Too early. It's only 8 A.M. here and I'm at work anyway.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 06:25:33 AM
        Sent Rd 4 so I don't forget in coming days .
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 07:26:50 AM
        (https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lufhslz8R41qgixe3.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 09:04:11 AM
        Busy day at work today, had to stay an hour longer than usual, just arrived home. Now to grab something to eat, give the songs one last spin and do the write-ups. The results should be up in 3-4 hours from now on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 09, 2016, 10:00:41 AM
        C'mon man, gotta hit the road in s few hours!!!

        (https://media.giphy.com/media/Emg9qPKR5hquI/giphy.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 10:09:19 AM
        Ruslan... just give him a 6 so you can put his mind at ease.   :biggrin:

        Though, Ima gonna have to kick your ass if his song only gets a 6.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 09, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
        Ruslan... just give him a 6 so you can put his mind at ease.   :biggrin:

        Though, Ima gonna have to kick your ass if his song only gets a 6.

        Yeah, I think there's gonna be an internationally sourced fogie beatdown if it only gets a 6.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 10:30:12 AM
        :lol

        Speaking of 6, I've got 6 write-ups done out of 12 so far. Working on it.

        There will be a 6 this round, or a 6.5. I haven't decided yet, the one last listen before this particular write-up will determine the score.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 09, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
        I've got this gut feeling mine did poorly.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 09, 2016, 11:08:37 AM
        Sent round 4 via email cause I'm hella busy the next few days, then I'm on vacation.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 09, 2016, 11:21:56 AM
        By the way, I asked this question before but couldn't really find the answer you referred to; Do you mind instrumentals?. And, with that, artists who are mainly into instrumentals? (as I try to send songs that represent the artist well). Though the case of the artist I have in mind there are definitely vocals, but used in similar fashion to the instruments rather than actual lyrics.

        Here it is (page 6):

        What are your feelings about instrumentals Mr Evermind?   

        Well, I like me a good instrumental sometimes, but it can easily fall flat too. Stream of Consciousness is actually my Top 10 DT song, so there's that. The instrumental should have something memorable for me to like it. I also seem to have a soft spot for non-metal instrumentals, beautiful and folky and acoustic. I seem to like these more.

        Send it and find out I guess.

        About round 4: does those instruments need to be prominent in song? Or is it ok if there is just, for example, violin playing few notes in background here and there?

        It's okay if it's just in the background. I've said before I don't want to be too restrictive with the theme, but some of the best examples of the songs I want to receive are Dire Straits - Your Latest Trick and DT - Another Day. But anything will do. You'll see it when I post the write-up.

        Thanks! Don't know why I couldn't find it, I am fairly sure I read that page  :facepalm:

        Oh, and:  :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 09, 2016, 11:22:21 AM
        There will be a 6 this round, or a 6.5. 

        Awesome. Can't wait! :yeahright

        I heard listening to a 6 and a 6.5 back to back will give you a headache!

        I've got this gut feeling mine did poorly.

        Gut feeling? I KNOW mine did poorly.
        Mason owes me a gigantic thank you.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 11:24:11 AM
        There will be a 6 this round, or a 6.5. 

        Awesome. Can't wait! :yeahright

        In fact, it's not yours. :lol Won't say anything else.

        One write-up left to do, for that mysterious 6/10 song. Results really soon.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 11:28:14 AM
        There will be a 6 this round, or a 6.5. 

        Awesome. Can't wait! :yeahright

        I heard listening to a 6 and a 6.5 back to back will give you a headache!


        Don't feel bad.... 6 is apparently a good score.  :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. For pride we fight, for pride we die (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 09, 2016, 11:48:47 AM
        There will be a 6 this round, or a 6.5. 

        Awesome. Can't wait! :yeahright

        In fact, it's not yours. :lol Won't say anything else.
        One write-up left to do, for that mysterious 6/10 song. Results really soon.
        So, my song for last :'(
        EDIT: I knew I wasn't last :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 11:52:53 AM
        Overall I thought this round was just a bit weaker than the previous too, but the great songs were very enjoyable. Anyway, results!

        Round 3 Results:

        wolfking: Nocturnal Rites – Still Alive

        Hey now, first W.A.S.P., now this? Winning second round in a row? Looks like you’re on fire!

        Now, everything about this song is fantastic to my ears (again!). I suspected this would be a hit from the very first line sung by the vocalist – is it someone who I should know? Can’t place his voice, but he’s amazing. The climax in the chorus is very climactic: “So there is nothing to revive – I’m still alive!” part gives me serious chills. This tune really packs a punch in only four minutes time. This is exactly how I like my metal – moderately heavy, with enough hooks and memorable vocal melodies, enjoyable amount of grit in the singers’ voice and coated in the distinctive epicness. The enhanced chorus in the ending with the choir behind the main vocals is brilliant (especially when he’s going “Alive! Alive! Alive!”). One of the highlights from this round indeed.

        This is a good example of a magnificent song which, while retaining its moderate heaviness, doesn’t really become a bit grating with the crunching guitar riffs. All in all, great entry. If you keep going like this, I can see you winning the whole thing.

        9.5/10

        jingle.boy: Damnation Angels – Pride (The Warrior’s Way)


        Being the longest song of the round, it basically came down to two options: either this song had to impress me a lot to earn a great score, or it could’ve been mediocre and a long mediocre song is always even more underwhelming. Knowing my tastes though, the former option was a safe bet.

        I place a lot of importance in the vocals and the vocal melodies, and this song definitely delivers in this department big time. The singer has a very pleasant voice, easy to listen to, powerful when it’s needed, melodic too; an instant hit with me. I can’t say I’m too fond of Japanese influences (or maybe I should call it Eastern vibe? Somehow I associate this song with Japan, maybe because sure I can hear the female vocals in the end (singing in Japanese?). Yeah, well, anyway), but otherwise the instrumental parts are fine. My favourite part is probably the middle one with the bombastic soaring vocals (starting with “We gather here, beneath the sky”) The beginning does a fine job to get this song running, the ending is a quiet one, but the middle part is a major highlight.

        This song was right up my alley, so you finally get your well-deserved 9.

        9/10

        ErHaO: Suspyre – Reign


        Remember how I said your next song is going to be awesome in the previous round write-ups? It’s like I’m a clairvoyant or something! Of course, this is dampened by the fact I get to decide if the song is awesome or not, but it doesn’t really matter.

        This song was surprising and even a bit startling in a very good way. I expected a metal song (especially looking at the album cover), and, well, I’ve got a metal song, but when this part at 0:25 came up I realized my expectations didn’t mean anything. And what’s even better, they’re using those instruments for the whole song. Is it violin and sax? I have no idea, but it sounds really cool, and I love how they follow it up with acoustic guitar playing that somber melody over the rhythm electric guitar in the verses and then that awkward part again! And the chorus is really cool too. This song achieves something I really like, bringing the weird and unexpected elements in metal. Hell, the way this band entwines both the traditional metal approach and the strikingly unusual elements is worth a round of applause. It was jarring for the first few spins, but there’s no way I can say those parts are feeling out of place now. I can say it’s awesome though. I’m kind of repeating myself at this point.

        There’s that eclectic acoustic section in the middle with mandolin or balalaika or whatever which brings the song down for me for half a point, but otherwise it’s really impressive. Congratulations with your good score.

        9/10

        Tomislav95: Leprous – Bilateral


        You basically cheated here, even if you didn’t know that – I’m more or less familiar with The Congregation and I enjoyed it quite a bit, so sending Leprous was somewhat of a safe choice. It did get you a good score – in my opinion, of course – and it definitely made me more interested in checking out Leprous discography.

        What I like about Leprous so far from my limited amount of experience, you can really say it’s them playing. You can only do so much in progressive metal genre, but these guys do sound distinctive; and since I like that sound, I can’t really complain about it. I have a feeling this is what I expected from Native Construct (not the growls with blast beats, damn it) – the atmospheric parts mixed with some ragged rhythms and memorable vocal melodies. My favourite parts are the tension-filled parts with almost staccato-styled vocals before the choruses and in the bridge.

        You’re yet to score a 9 in this roulette, but you show consistency and this may be really important in a long run. I don’t know how the scoreboard looks like so far – I don’t really remember anyone’s scores – but I guess you have a decent chance making it past the cut-off if you keep sending such good songs.

        8.5/10

        lonestar: Triumph – Magic Power


        Older progressive rock bands can be a hit or miss with me, but I’ve got to say, in a sea of mostly heavier and metal-oriented songs this round, this song was a welcome breath of fresh air. Maybe that’s why it gets such a good score, or maybe that’s because I just like it a lot. It’s kind of like that Kansas song I’ve got in the very first preliminary round, only a bit better.

        Remember how I always say I mostly don’t like happy music? Well, there are always exceptions, and this song is apparently one of them. I love how flamboyant it is, the positive energy is just dripping from every word and note. The singer is doing an alright job, but I feel this song isn’t about the singer – it’s about the whole picture. The lyrics are fantastic, guess this song can easily describe almost anyone who’s hanging out there on DTF. Damn, this song is just one huge pool of wistfulness and happiness.

        And it also kept growing on me. As I said, maybe in some other round this song would’ve been an 8, but I couldn’t help but love how strikingly different it is from the rest of the bunch. So it gets an 8.5 instead.

        8.5/10

        senecadawg: Dream Evil – Chasing the Dragon


        The good old power metal, huh? Well, you can’t really score bad with that in my roulette. What usually determines my scores for power metal is how much the song clicks with me, if it has that spark that really captures my attention. This wasn’t the best one, not by far, but I enjoyed it.

        This is really simple song and offers nothing mindblowing like the three tunes above you, but it’s just really solid. Nice vocalist, good catchy chorus, the right length – once again, only four minutes and the song doesn’t need to be longer.

        I don’t really have a lot to say about this tune. It’s a nice power metal song and I like it quite much. Among the songs ranked 8/10 in this round, this is the best one, but it’s still not quite 8.5.

        8/10

        Big Hath: Odyssey – I Am Two


        Wow, I’m having trouble determining the heaviest song of the round. I’ve got a long heavy song and I’ve got your song. My best advice is not to listen to those back-to-back unless you’re either a big fan of heavier music or you want to get a headache.

        But hey, it’s a Dan Swano project, so what the hell, it should be heavy. His low voice complements the heavy guitar riffs perfectly, and I like how dark and somewhat menacing he sounds in the verses with the keyboards and guitars playing in the background, but then – once again in this round – the chorus kicks in and leaves me a bit underwhelmed. I like how he mysteriously whispers the very last word too. The highlight of this song is definitely the atmosphere, somber and grinding at the same time; and I realize the heaviness is part of the style, but I’m not sure I can stand a few songs like this in a row. It was an enjoyable, but also exhausting listen. Good thing this song is only six minutes long…

        7.5/10

        Bolsters: Thunderstone – Forevermore


        Well, I understand how people thought the tidbit about “how I like my metal” is about this one, but while Nocturnal Rites song does everything great, I felt this song overdoes everything just a little. The vocalist is just too gritty to my taste (he reminds me of Ronnie Atkins a bit somehow, and I never liked his way-too-gritty style of singing), the chorus feels unfinished and also has the most cringeworthy line in this round (“Forevermore, together for”). That’s kind of the most generic rhyme you can come up with, and while I generally don’t mind the lyrics in power metal songs, this one stood out.

        But despite all my complaints about this tune, I still enjoyed it. It’s like Nelson’s Dream Evil entry – solid metal, mostly enjoyable, but it does have its flaws, and in this song it’s most definitely the chorus. It’s not like I actively dislike the chorus, but I feel it lacks something, not sure what. This could’ve been a better score, but with the chorus like this, it’s only 7.5. I think you might have actually scored half a point more with Pale Blue Dot, but I only listened to it once, so I’m not sure.

        7.5/10

        Train of Naught: A.C.T. – A Failed Escape Attempt


        You wanted to send this song in the second preliminary round (where the score didn’t matter for you already), but instead you tried your luck with it in this round, and well, I liked it. It really depends on what you think the good score is, but I think this is a good song. So don’t get all the criticism that will follow in the next paragraph too close to the heart.

        First off, the best parts about this song are the verses, hands down. I love how they build up the tension, the atmosphere, they really fit the concept and the song’s name. And then… all the tension kind of evaporates when the chorus comes up. I’m not an expert on those things, but I really think the production could use more punch here. All these build-ups to the choruses fall flat, and while – at least partly – chorus’ vocal melodies are to blame, the production doesn’t help either. The instrumental part was underwhelming too. At the beginning it was quite good, and then it went into that circus sound effects part, and while I understand it’s probably because of the story, it didn’t really add anything to my enjoyment, but rather deducted from it.

        Don’t get me wrong, when this song was great (during the verses), it was great, but it also was inconsistent. So well, there.

        7/10

        bl5150: Armory – Beyond the Horizon


        This song is an interesting one. As you said, the first half of this song is a pretty much standard power metal, and it has that kind of happy vibe I don’t like too much, so I won’t be lying when I say the first half pretty much fell flat for me, and the since the ending reprises the happy chorus, it also fell flat for me. I just don’t really like this happy metal approach, which is why I’m not a big fan of Stratovarius (though I do like them in moderate doses), so during the first half I thought this is going to be a complete miss.

        But the instrumental part saved this song big time. It was by far the most interesting, captivating and appealing part of this tune for me. If this instrumental part was put into some other song I liked more, this could’ve been an easy 9 points or more. I’ve grown to enjoy this song a bit more when I become more familiar with it, but it still far from the top in this round and overall.

        7/10

        TAC: Iris Divine – In the Wake of Martyrs


        Well, it’s like you score big in the even-numbered rounds and then score not-so-big in the odd-numbered ones? Maybe that means your Round 4 song will be incredible? I don’t know. Then again, it depends how you define the “good” score. Anything better than 5 is decent in my book and anything from 7.5 and higher is good. So, by this definition it’s… well, almost good.

        This is indeed The Paralydium Project situation once again. I like some parts just fine; mostly the choruses, the second verse and the instrumental intro, but I couldn’t care less about the haunting whispery first verse that sounds like it came from some genre with “core” in the name (no idea about which one). I’m not too fond of the instrumental in the middle of the song too, when it gets really heavy, then it gets heavier and then it gets downright grating on my ears. But the good parts are good indeed.

        So, well, I know it’s no fun getting lower scores, but I really can’t help it. At least you nailed it with Dead Lord! (if you take this one out of context, it might sound a bit weird)

        7/10

        Dr. DTVT: Orphaned Land – Sapari


        You mentioned this band lists Myrath as one of their influences, and I guess drawing influences from the band that is your source of inspiration is one thing, but pushing it too far in one particular direction is another thing entirely. Obviously, I’ve heard precisely one song from Myrath, but if you didn’t say this was Myrath-like, I would never have guessed it, honestly. I mean, it does have those eastern influences, but while Myrath seamlessly built the metal song around them, this seems more like the other way around – they took some eclectic folk song and put metal in there, and while this approach isn’t something I dislike, not at all, this particular melody the song is built around is irritating.

        I can’t say the metal is just crowbarred in for the sake of it – no, the song structure is fine, the metal fits… it’s just I don’t like the song. When you base the song around one melody it’s a gamble, because if you dislike that one melody, you dislike the song. This is exactly what happened in my case. I can see someone liking this, because I found it well constructed and thought-out, but I’m not too big on this. Sorry.

        6/10

        Bands added to banned list:

        Nocturnal Rites
        Damnation Angels
        Suspyre
        Leprous
        Triumph
        Dream Evil
        Odyssey
        Thunderstone

        The scoreboard:

        wolfking - 28
        lonestar - 26
        bl5150 - 25.5
        Big Hath - 25.5
        Tomislav95 - 25
        TAC - 24


        (the cut-off line, will matter after Round 6)

        Dr. DTVT - 23.5
        jingle.boy - 23.5
        Train of Naught - 23
        Bolsters - 23
        senecadawg2 - 23
        ErHaO - 22.5
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 11:55:12 AM
        Round 4: Violin / Woodwinds / Brass instruments

        Now comes what I think will be the most interesting round in this roulette.

        I guess the theme is pretty obvious. Send me something that features either violin or woodwind instruments or brass instruments. It doesn't matter how the instrument is featured (solo / lead / orchestral arrangement), anything will do, but it has to be the actual instrument played, not a sample or keyboard sound. Good examples of what I want are DT's Another Day or Dire Straits - Your Latest Trick, but I don't want this theme to be too restrictive.

        You also can use some other unusual instruments, but you have to check it with me. For example, you can use accordion (someone asked me this in PM), but you can't use the tambourine (I don't care for unusual drum instruments). So if you're in doubt, send me a PM and we'll sort it out.

        Now, if you absolutely don't have anything that fits the theme, you can ignore it and send me a ballad instead. However, if you do that, I will deduct one point from your score for this round. Choose wisely!

        One last thing - I ask all the participants to tell me what instrument is featured in your songs (and a timestamp, if it's not obvious where it appears). You can do that via PM while sending your song, or you can mention it in this thread - either will do.

        The time-limit for this round is 10 minutes.

        Send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 09, 2016, 12:09:28 PM
        Damn, wolfking is killing it!

        7 is alright for this round I guess, but it's getting me nowhere above the cutting line  :P The next submission might be a risk but I stand 100% behind it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 09, 2016, 12:13:52 PM
        4.5/10
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 12:14:24 PM
        Yeah, current course and speed have this is Kade's to win or lose.  Really surprised at some of these scores, tbh.  Some of the lower ranking ones I ware really impressed with, and I wouldn't have expected a 2 point spread between Nocturnal Rites and Thunderstone.

        Submission coming shortly - I know the band, just gotta pick the song.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 12:22:20 PM
        I might doubt some of my scores, but I feel quite sure about that 2 point spread between NR and Thunderstone. One song was killer, the other was fine but nothing special at all and didn't click with me much.

        Of course, if Kade won't screw up and keeps sending great songs, yeah, he wins, but that's kind of how roulettes work. Regarding scores, don't forget Round 7 will have two songs from each participants for me to rate (therefore making the maximum possible amount of points 20 in that round), and the EP round will probably also be rated out of 20 with 5 more possible points for the flow. And with five more rounds to go... who knows.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 09, 2016, 12:26:10 PM
        I can't argue with your write up Ruslan. It's a fitting description of the track. I knew it was a risk after you bitchslapped Seneca in the first round. I was torn between Iris Divine and a catchy Power Metal track, which I think you'd like. But if for some reason the catchy Power Metal track didn't click for you, I would've regretted not going for it with ID.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 12:33:52 PM
        I knew it was a risk after you bitchslapped Seneca in the first round.

        What? He got 7.5! It's a good score! :lol

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 12:38:23 PM
        senecadawg: Dream Evil – Chasing the Dragon[/b]

        The good old power metal, huh? Well, you can’t really score bad with that in my roulette. What usually determines my scores for power metal is how much the song clicks with me, if it has that spark that really captures my attention. This wasn’t the best one, not by far, but I enjoyed it.

        This is really simple song and offers nothing mindblowing like the three tunes above you, but it’s just really solid. Nice vocalist, good catchy chorus, the right length – once again, only four minutes and the song doesn’t need to be longer.

        I don’t really have a lot to say about this tune. It’s a nice power metal song and I like it quite much. Among the songs ranked 8/10 in this round, this is the best one, but it’s still not quite 8.5.

        Wait... wat?   :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 09, 2016, 12:42:05 PM
        I looked up 7.5 in the dictionary.
        noun A poor score; especially when competing in DTF Roulettes.
        Also known as, sucks, least best score, blows, on par with Winger
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 09, 2016, 12:44:18 PM
        I looked up 7.5 in the dictionary.
        noun A poor score; especially when competing in DTF Roulettes.
        Also known as, sucks, least best score, blows, on par with Winger

        That can't be too bad then, I've heard Winger has some pretty catchy hooks and that Kip is fucking cute.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 12:45:16 PM
        I looked up 7.5 in the dictionary.
        noun A poor score; especially when competing in DTF Roulettes.
        Also known as, sucks, least best score, blows, on par with Winger

        That was Webster's, right?  Actually, Collins says it's "the best worst score; the cream of the crap... still a better love story than Twilight though"

        And Winger will always get you a SEVENTEEN!!!!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 09, 2016, 12:49:33 PM
        senecadawg: Dream Evil – Chasing the Dragon

        The good old power metal, huh? Well, you can’t really score bad with that in my roulette. What usually determines my scores for power metal is how much the song clicks with me, if it has that spark that really captures my attention. This wasn’t the best one, not by far, but I enjoyed it.

        This is really simple song and offers nothing mindblowing like the three tunes above you, but it’s just really solid. Nice vocalist, good catchy chorus, the right length – once again, only four minutes and the song doesn’t need to be longer.

        I don’t really have a lot to say about this tune. It’s a nice power metal song and I like it quite much. Among the songs ranked 8/10 in this round, this is the best one, but it’s still not quite 8.5.

        Wait... wat?   :lol

        Hahaha. I don't know why I wrote that actually. :lol But it isn't wrong and it offers some comfort too (until you notice it), so I'll leave it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 09, 2016, 02:00:59 PM
        Kind of sad to see a drop in the standings after a solid 8, but with TAC only a single point ahead, I don't feel dead yet. And nice catch, jingle

        I'm glad you enjoyed the song. I'll try and send soon!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 02:12:58 PM
        Kind of sad to see a drop in the standings after a solid 8, but with TAC only a single point ahead, I don't feel dead yet.

        Yeah, quite a clumping for the bottom half - only 1.5 points between last and making the cut.  I don't think anyone is out of it yet, nor is anyone (save maybe Kade) "safe".
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 03:19:06 PM
        Bummer.............as mentioned earlier it came down to two for me (Damnation Angels and Armory) and as per usual I applied my rule of "if in doubt, go obscure"  :-\

        Plenty of time but that hurts a bit
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 09, 2016, 03:32:31 PM
        Brent, stop editing your damn posts! I look at the page and see a "new" post by bl5150 and think, oh let's check out what Brent is saying, and it's the same post I just read!  :facepalm:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 03:37:46 PM
        Sorry Tim - I didn't realise that when you edit it shows as a new post.   Would you rather read shmeginese?

        So anyway..........this is what I edited out.


        "Sent a song for Rd 4 with lots of wood(wind) Tim"

        (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/87/25/81/872581e71cc7facbfffa926e44fdb1a4.jpg)   ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 09, 2016, 03:44:10 PM
        Now there's a post that qualifies for an edit! ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 03:59:15 PM
        I just realized, Kip's bracelet looks like he's handcuffed to the shower head.   :lol

        @ Brent... so glad you went Obscure, because I'd have lost my good score.  Well, fair deal for me saving you from submitting The Chronicles Project.  We'll call it even.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 04:25:41 PM
        I just realized, Kip's bracelet looks like he's handcuffed to the shower head.   :lol

        @ Brent... so glad you went Obscure, because I'd have lost my good score.  Well, fair deal for me saving you from submitting The Chronicles Project.  We'll call it even.

        OK - even  :)

        And yeah..........the thought had crossed my mind about the photo with the handcuffs.  I am certain it crossed Tim's :heybaby:

        I have to re-work a couple of things I had planned for later I think.  I'll back WASP to the hilt but I find songs like the Nocturnal Rites a bit generic , so I might have to bring a few bands I had canned back into the equation.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 06:01:22 PM
        Sent.

        I really wish I had the stones to send Chuck Daniels' band, and Satan's special trip.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 09, 2016, 06:58:04 PM
        Sent.

        I really wish I had the stones to send Chuck Daniels' band, and Satan's special trip.

        You woulda totally earn my respect. Seriously. (great fucking song too)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 07:16:23 PM
        Sent.

        I really wish I had the stones to send Chuck Daniels' band, and Satan's special trip.

        You woulda totally earn my respect. Seriously. (great fucking song too)
        [/quote

        I had mentally decided that if I either A) didn't get a 9 or higher this round, or B) was more than 1 point behind the cut line, I was sending it.  But, neither of those came to fruition, so I'm going with my brain, not my heart.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 09, 2016, 07:54:52 PM
        I'll be disappointed if my best songs end up being the ones I sent in the qualifier.

        I will send later tonight, I might think about this one a bit longer.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2016, 11:02:38 PM
        Holy shit!  Nice.  :metal

        I always hate the added pressure now to perform.  Feel I'm gonna take a hit this round, gonna be tough.  :lol

        And  :metal for the Kip pic as always.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 11:13:07 PM
        How about this one Kade?   Deathy vocals , swing and sax :metal

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrgvDR-Gb_M
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 05:03:08 AM
        How about this one Kade?   Deathy vocals , swing and sax :metal

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrgvDR-Gb_M

        Not bad.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 05:50:10 AM
        Really struggling with this round.  Could be the start of my undoing.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 10, 2016, 05:51:31 AM
        (https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/44900457.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 10, 2016, 09:46:32 AM
        Yeah, this is a tricky round for me. Without sending classical music, I only have a couple legit options.

        Just a Game was the first record I ever bought, but Magic Power is probably my favorite Triumph song (Hold On does come close though). Fully deserves that 8.5 and then some.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 10, 2016, 09:50:02 AM
        I'll be disappointed if my best songs end up being the ones I sent in the qualifier.

        Well, me too. I'm hoping to get some great stuff from you in the next rounds!

        Really struggling with this round.  Could be the start of my undoing.

        This reminds me how you said you're running out of bands to send in my first roulette after Round 5 or so. :lol Tim's pic is basically my reaction too.

        Yeah, this is a tricky round for me. Without sending classical music, I only have a couple legit options.

        Well, you can send a ballad and get one point less for your entry if things are too hopeless.

        Off to sort through my PMs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 10, 2016, 09:50:42 AM
        Roulettes are funny. Sometimes the answer is right under your nose the whole time. It's hard to know how someone will react to it. I would've never in a million years even considered Magic Power.

        Nor would I have considered sending Half The World as Hath did in Brent's roulette. Still cannot believe Brent gave it the same score as La Villa Strangiato!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 10, 2016, 09:57:32 AM
        yeah, that was just knowing the audience more than anything.  (although I really do enjoy Half The World)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 10, 2016, 10:12:51 AM
        If I were you, I would've never sent me Magic Power either. It's just sometimes these songs click with me. It was a huge risk, in fact, and it just paid off.

        Anyway, I've got 8 songs in. I'm missing Nelson (because he asked for my e-mail and I provided it only now), Casper, Mason and Kade. It would be great if I get every song in the next 24 hours, but if not, no sweat, we all have real lives and all that. Just remember the faster you guys send it, the faster I'll be able to post the blurred pics, tidbits, results, all the good entertaining stuff.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 10, 2016, 10:13:50 AM
        yeah, that was just knowing the audience more than anything.

        Knowing my audience would've probably helped me in this last round. :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 01:27:50 PM
        Need to do some more digging.  i have a couple of options but there are songs I'm not all that happy with.  Will send tonight, so around 15-16 hours.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 10, 2016, 01:32:36 PM
        Need to do some more digging.  i have a couple of options but there are songs I'm not all that happy with.  Will send tonight, so around 15-16 hours.

        Same! And my reaction will follow as well ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 02:11:43 PM
        Ruslan, check your PM's.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 10, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
        Answered. I don't think you're going to like it though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 02:43:17 PM
        The search continues.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2016, 02:52:28 PM
        The search continues.

        I'd offer some helpful suggestions but ... I don't want you to win.   :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 02:55:43 PM
        The search continues.

        I'd offer some helpful suggestions but ... I don't want you to win.   :biggrin:

        You're such a great guy.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
        (https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/George-Costanza-Winking.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
         :lol

        I have a couple of decent options, but 2 high scoring rounds has put the pressure on.  I hope Ruslan is a little open minded with this round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 10, 2016, 10:03:14 PM
        :lol

        I have a couple of decent options, but 2 high scoring rounds has put the pressure on.  I hope Ruslan is a little open minded with this round.

        You're due for a bad round..........might as well make it this one  ;D   I want you up there with me mate - just not that far up  ;)

        I think I have had at least one bad round in every roulette I have been in- win or lose.  Keeping it to one is the secret.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 11, 2016, 04:47:54 AM
        :lol

        I have a couple of decent options, but 2 high scoring rounds has put the pressure on.  I hope Ruslan is a little open minded with this round.

        You're due for a bad round..........might as well make it this one  ;D   I want you up there with me mate - just not that far up  ;)

        I think I have had at least one bad round in every roulette I have been in- win or lose.  Keeping it to one is the secret.

         :tup

        Sent.  Went with something a bit left field and perhaps unexpected from me, but IMO the song and band are brilliant.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 11, 2016, 07:03:22 AM
        Will send in 4 to 5 hours, I fell asleep behind my laptop yesterday  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 11, 2016, 07:07:29 AM
        It's fine, I'm going out for a drink this evening and Mason hasn't sent yet anyway. Either he's busy as he's been warning me before the roulette began, or he's pissed at his 6/10 score and doesn't want to send next round. :biggrin:

        If you indeed get your song in within the next six hours, I'll start listening this evening.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 11, 2016, 08:31:41 PM
        I'm in a musical this weekend, and I've been putting in 16 hour days between work and rehearsal.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 01:33:55 AM
        I'm in a musical this weekend, and I've been putting in 16 hour days between work and rehearsal.

        It's all fine. Try to send something (it doesn't have to be a link if you're from your phone, just band's name and the song title will do) during the weekend if you can.

        I've got 11 songs right now and I'm starting my first listen. The picture will be up when Mason gets his song in.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 12, 2016, 10:15:52 AM
        You'll love it or hate it, but you can't deny it doesn't fit the theme.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Alive enough to stand my ground (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 10:18:48 AM
        Everyone is in now. I'll fire up the picture when I get home in a few hours.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 04:18:58 PM
        I thought of giving away more, but you guys are supposed to be good at this, so you get this one. Let's see how many you will be able to recognize.

        (https://i.imgur.com/YFteqhj.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 12, 2016, 04:47:07 PM
        I'll be baffled if someone can guess any of these.

        Mine's the first, meaning I totally won this round  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 12, 2016, 05:05:12 PM
        Mine is the 9th one, I think?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 05:09:01 PM
        Well I admit I may have made it too difficult. :lol I think a few of these are guessable though, and seeing how good you guys did at the previous rounds guessing, I thought you might as well get a challenging blurred picture.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 12, 2016, 05:11:47 PM
        All I see is Paranoid.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 12, 2016, 05:14:22 PM
        I guess what makes this one so much harder to guess than round 3 is

        one, when the artists are the more visible parts, it's easier to guess a song based on a few visible letters, seeing a word that looks like 'Paranoid' in the 11th song title won't get me anywhere.

        two, because of the theme I can imagine there being more obscure bands, or atleast nothing too straightforward.

        EDIT 2: Oh and taking a closer look at it, the 3rd song might be titled 'Lost Chance' though I have no idea what that is
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 12, 2016, 05:17:15 PM
        I guess what makes this one so much harder to guess than round 3 is

        one, when the artists are the more visible parts, it's easier to guess a song based on a few visible letters, seeing a word that looks like 'Paranoid' in the 11th song title won't get me anywhere.

        two, because of the theme I can imagine there being more obscure bands, or atleast nothing too straightforward.
        Totally. In last round I could guess bands I heard of but never listened to.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
        All valid points. Still, let's see if someone guesses something. I still think some of those are possible to guess, the fourth and the eigth ones in particular. Anyway, the second picture will be more revealing for sure.

        By the way, I've got four instrumental songs this round. All in all, the entries for this round are so diverse and unusual. I'm really glad I decided to do this theme after all. Some very interesting band/song choices from you guys.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
        Bloody hard but I will say #4 - the artist is Telergy.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 05:26:47 PM
        Bloody hard but I will say #4 - the artist is Telergy.

        :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 12, 2016, 05:30:51 PM
        2nd song title starts with 'Meth', gotta be.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 12, 2016, 05:33:23 PM
        2nd song title starts with 'Meth', gotta be.
        You're close :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Crow on March 12, 2016, 05:45:57 PM
        did you send methcore
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 12, 2016, 06:29:32 PM
        Well, I can see mine, simply because of my unique title.

        The first song is something Path?  Firth?
        Someone sent a live song - that's easy enough to tell. 
        "Moment of " something.
        Something with an Angle... or Angie.

        Got one though... and I know who it is, because they sent it to me in my 2nd roulette

        Circle of Illusion - New Age
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 12, 2016, 06:35:08 PM
        I didn't think you'd remember that, since it didn't go over too well with you.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2016, 06:48:37 PM
        Whoa, I didn't know "firth" was a word. I learn something new every day!

        But actually yes, the first song is "Path".
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 12, 2016, 06:51:43 PM
        Something with an Angle... or Angie.
        Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Angle of Repose
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Sacul on March 12, 2016, 06:55:02 PM
        I'll be eagerly awaiting for Ev's reaction to that song  :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 12, 2016, 07:05:04 PM
        I didn't think you'd remember that, since it didn't go over too well with you.

        Spreadsheets baby... spreadsheets.  :lol And you got a 'push' on your wager with that song - nothing bad; nothing great.

        Something with an Angle... or Angie.
        Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Angle of Repose

        2 down; 10 to go.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Ain't living in the dark no more (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2016, 05:12:00 AM
        Mine's the 8th one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 05:52:16 AM
        Let's see if this makes it easier. I'm still impressed you managed to guess two songs already.

        (https://i.imgur.com/5m60CaT.jpg)

        ToN, the second song is totally called Meth First.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 13, 2016, 06:05:38 AM
        Bon Iver - Beth/Rest
        Shooting Star - Last Chance
        Telergy- Astronomer?
        The Antlers - Palace

        ToN, the second song is totally called Meth First.
        :lol

        Good thing I have spotify to help me out. I honestly still thought it said Meth

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 13, 2016, 06:11:53 AM
        I can make out a few words on the remaining ones, but not enough to figure them out.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
        Just got a question in PM about Round 6 theme, I'll post the answer here just so you all can plan your entries accordingly.

        The female vocalist in your song for female-fronted round has to be really prominent in the song. 50/50 male/female vocals won't do it for this round. Those were alright in my first roulette in "Two or more vocalists" round, but now I want some real female-fronted songs. Songs like piano version of Hymns for the Broken (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bid7TujIgjA) or like the one I've sent in the most recent round of Championship roulette (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDuAPhHBbuk) won't qualify for this round.

        However, something like Kamelot - Center of the Universe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wRreoNRGwk) - if you swap male and female vocal sections - qualifies. I don't mind having some male vocals on the song for this round, but it has to be either a small enough part or the backing vocals. Most of the vocals should be female.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2016, 08:34:19 AM
        Mine's the 8th one.

        The Tea Party?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 13, 2016, 09:03:06 AM
        The bottom one is "Shadow Circus - ...Then In July, The Thunder Came"
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 13, 2016, 09:09:45 AM
        Mine's the 8th one.

        The Tea Party?

        Psychopomp. Cool tune.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Tyrias on March 13, 2016, 09:12:55 AM
        Just got a question in PM about Round 6 theme, I'll post the answer here just so you all can plan your entries accordingly.

        The female vocalist in your song for female-fronted round has to be really prominent in the song. 50/50 male/female vocals won't do it for this round. Those were alright in my first roulette in "Two or more vocalists" round, but now I want some real female-fronted songs. Songs like piano version of Hymns for the Broken (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bid7TujIgjA) or like the one I've sent in the most recent round of Championship roulette (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDuAPhHBbuk) won't qualify for this round.

        However, something like Kamelot - Center of the Universe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wRreoNRGwk) - if you swap male and female vocal sections - qualifies. I don't mind having some male vocals on the song for this round, but it has to be either a small enough part or the backing vocals. Most of the vocals should be female.

        This regulation is your roulette might have been the thing that confused you about my round in the Championship Roulette ;).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 12:58:16 PM
        The bottom one is "Shadow Circus - ...Then In July, The Thunder Came"

        Mine's the 8th one.

        The Tea Party?

        Psychopomp. Cool tune.

        I think only four songs left unguessed after these posts? I'll post the tidbits tomorrow with the clear picture revealing all the songs, so make your guesses while you still can. ;)

        Aiming for Wednesday with the results. Now, I mean, it can be Tuesday, but don't count on it. Wednesday is a safe bet.

        Edit:

        I'll be eagerly awaiting for Ev's reaction to that song  :corn

        I'm always forgetting to say that, but I really like this nickname. I know I should thank mike for this one, but still. :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 13, 2016, 01:26:01 PM
        Not entirely sure which ones haven't been guessed but I think it's these:

        #5
        #7
        #11

        And then mine (#1) of which only the song title has been guessed, it's not very hard at this point though so I'll leave it open. And

        #5: Yanni - The Rain Must Fall (live)
        #7: A Moment of ...
        #11 Lyriel - Paranoid Circus
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 13, 2016, 01:28:55 PM
        Not entirely sure which ones haven't been guessed but I think it's these:

        #5
        #7
        #11

        And then mine (#1) of which only the song title has been guessed, it's not very hard at this point though so I'll leave it open. And

        #5: Yanni - The Rain Must Fall (live)
        #7: A Moment of ...
        #11 Lyriel - Paranoid Circus
        Apocalyptica?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 01:29:53 PM
        I've got no idea how you guys are doing it. Are you Googling / Spotifying it or do you just know all these artists or what?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 13, 2016, 01:37:19 PM
        Spotify  :lol no way in hell I know these. Bon Iver, Circle of Illusion are the only ones I'm familiar with and only because I got them in my roulette. Also heard of Sleepytime Gorilla Museum but never heard their music.

        Not entirely sure which ones haven't been guessed but I think it's these:

        #5
        #7
        #11

        And then mine (#1) of which only the song title has been guessed, it's not very hard at this point though so I'll leave it open. And

        #5: Yanni - The Rain Must Fall (live)
        #7: A Moment of ...
        #11 Lyriel - Paranoid Circus
        Apocalyptica?
        Yes
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2016, 03:30:24 PM
        Only Mason (and perhaps RJ?) were going to get mine.  I thought the Apocalyptica might have been Andromeda - but alas, no song "Path" by them.  I'm not googling, I'm going by what I recognize.  Tea Party is a nice rocking Canadian 3-piece. Well known around these parts.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2016, 04:44:46 PM
        My tune has made it through unscathed  :)

        Lyriel was a band I considered for this roulette at one point.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: lonestar on March 13, 2016, 06:07:49 PM
        Sent my round 5 since I'm heading on vacation, and I'm thinking about sending six as well considering how great a pace you're running here. I got a song picked out, want me to just fire it off to ya bro?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2016, 08:17:26 PM
        Mine's the 8th one.

        The Tea Party?

        Psychopomp. Cool tune.

        You guys got it.  I love it.  Even if it doesn't get a good score for some reason, I'm proud of it and glad I sent it, it's an amazing song IMO.

        Ruslan, silly question, but does the order of the lists represent anything.  Order they were submitted, rankings?  Haven't taken notice in previous rounds but just popped in my head.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 13, 2016, 09:45:04 PM
        I submitted last, but I'm not at the bottom, so it's not order.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
        RJ, yeah, you can send Round 6 song if you want to.

        The order is random, don't read into it too much.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2016, 03:48:55 AM
        I'm off to the airport momentarily for a work trip, but will be back Wednesday night.  Timing/pacing is just right.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Your last chance to yell (Blurred picture #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2016, 05:14:48 AM
        The order is random, don't read into it too much.

        Cool, thanks.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 14, 2016, 11:21:51 AM
        I mean, there are some things in this roulette that aren't random, so it was a good idea to ask.

        Anyway, time for the tidbits!

        And this song segues into one other song from this round perfectly, it’s like they’re placed in this exact order on one album or something. I haven’t even noticed the transition the first time around. Unfortunately, both are probably going to get somewhat average (but still decent, just ask Tim or Chad!) score in this round.

        Partly, this song might be the most beautiful thing I’ve received in this roulette yet, and partly it’s also one of the grooviest and rocking ones. I wish it was more on the beautiful side than on the rocking one, but this is still a mighty fine song.

        Well, you know, this song is definitely on the better side of the spectrum for this genre based on what I’ve heard – not that I’ve heard much. I might even go as far as to say it’s awesome.

        Well, sorry, but this song is definitely on the worst side of the spectrum for this genre based on what I’ve heard – not that I’ve heard much. I might even go as far as to say this is a disaster. I tried to keep an open mind for this round, but this just isn’t for me.

        Chill, simple, soothing and captivating, this is without question your best song in this roulette so far. I bet the whiskey and cat approach will make it even better, I’ll try it in the coming days.

        I was somewhat apprehensive regarding the amount of instrumentals I received in this round – I don’t mind an occasional instrumental song or two – and I’ve got four in this round! Still, this one was splendid, kept me interested for the whole length and that’s one quality I appreciate in this kind of tunes.


        As I said, I'll start working on the write-ups tomorrow, but I probably won't do them all at once, so expect the results on Wednesday.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Crow on March 14, 2016, 11:36:45 AM
        I wish I had a cat so I could properly appreciate all my music
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 14, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
        Doesn't work with all the music, he doesn't like metal all that much.

        He does like soothing, serene songs though. Or maybe he just likes sleeping and he doesn't care about them. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 14, 2016, 12:50:40 PM
        I don't think any of those are mine :justjen
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 14, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
        Listening to what I can, and there is some strange stuff going on in this round.

        I was somewhat apprehensive regarding the amount of instrumentals I received in this round – I don’t mind an occasional instrumental song or two – and I’ve got four in this round! Still, this one was splendid, kept me interested for the whole length and that’s one quality I appreciate in this kind of tunes.[/i]

        Telegy. It was pretty cool.

        Partly, this song might be the most beautiful thing I’ve received in this roulette yet, and partly it’s also one of the grooviest and rocking ones. I wish it was more on the beautiful side than on the rocking one, but this is still a mighty fine song.

        Not sure, but I can see this possibly being mine.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2016, 02:16:56 PM
        Can't pick any of those.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2016, 06:23:00 PM
        I see two comments that could apply to mine, perhaps a 3rd.

        :crossesfingers:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 14, 2016, 09:07:40 PM
        I'm not sure any of those are about mine (as usual).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 15, 2016, 01:57:28 AM
        I don't think any of those are mine :justjen
        This.

        Though mine might be one of the tracks that flow into eachother and both get 'good' scores by Evermind standards, I really doubt it though.

        Oh and I agree with the 'Telergy is pretty cool' statement, have yet to listen to everything but that song was very cool. Gotta wonder how said person finds these kinds of bands, they seem to not have gotten a lot of plays on Spotify  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 15, 2016, 02:34:04 AM
        Well, for what it's worth, I've heard of Telergy before and even listened to one their song called Teacher.  I think it happened during Nick's WPAPU show.

        One of you two should be concerned about this two songs flowing into each other comment. The flow only works one way though, doesn't work if you swap those two songs around.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 15, 2016, 02:57:07 AM
        Okay, hearing a couple of the songs, I think mine is potentially the second half of the flowing songs, hope not because that would mean my song did pretty poorly, or decent, in other words.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Sacul on March 15, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
        Heh, I always put my roulette playlists in random :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 15, 2016, 09:27:19 AM
        Heh, I always put my roulette playlists in random :P

        I randomize the whole playlist before I play it, and then it depends. I might randomize it again and again after each few listens or I may move a few songs around or actually leave it as it is. I try to get some flow for every round, as if I'm listening to an album, and I always try to get through all the songs in one sitting.

        Which is why it's helpful to get actual files and not just the YouTube links.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2016, 03:23:33 PM
        Hmmm....since a line from my song is in the thread title at the moment, could only mean positive things.....couldn't it?  Or perhaps just a perfect line to reveal the tidbits, obviously  ???
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 16, 2016, 05:42:38 AM
        Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think the winning song of the round had a lyric in the thread title at the same time the results were posted. Obviously it'll be a bit harder in a round with 4 instrumentals, if this is a pattern Evermind is holding on to and his favorite of this round is one of the instrumentals, I don't know what will happen.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 16, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
        Results today?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 11:02:04 AM
        Hmmm....since a line from my song is in the thread title at the moment, could only mean positive things.....couldn't it?  Or perhaps just a perfect line to reveal the tidbits, obviously  ???
        Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think the winning song of the round had a lyric in the thread title at the same time the results were posted. Obviously it'll be a bit harder in a round with 4 instrumentals, if this is a pattern Evermind is holding on to and his favorite of this round is one of the instrumentals, I don't know what will happen.

        All good points / questions.

        Results today?

        Yep. Busy day today, it's 8 P.M. here, I'm tired and I've just got home. Now to find something to eat and then write the results. Estimation is 4 hours from now on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 16, 2016, 01:18:01 PM
        Ok man, guess ill just head to the beach then...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I'll give you something more (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 01:29:26 PM
        Ok man, guess ill just head to the beach then...

        Well, only 2.5 hours passed from my previous post and I said it'll be 4 hours, so, hey, I'm doing what I can.

        I haven't counted the overall scores yet, but this round will probably broaden some gaps. There are four scores in 9 - 9.5 range, and then there are six scores in 0-7.5 range (I'm saying "0" because I'm still undecided on the last score).

        Got three more write-ups to do. I'd say the results will be up in an hour or maybe a bit earlier.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 02:16:55 PM
        So, here are the results. Once again, please don't get too upset on some lower scores I gave this round.

        Round 4 Results:

        ErHaO: Lyriel – Paranoid Circus

        How to get in the upper half of the scoreboard after doing poorly in the first two rounds? Well, it’s simple, you just have to send two awesome songs and there you are. It’s also interesting how some participants had trouble picking out the tunes for this particular theme, yet you sent me the sax-violin-fronted-and-whatnot Suspyre a week ago and now you follow up with this. Great choices, both of these.

        This song indeed reminds me of Blackmore’s Night a lot; the main singer even has that kind of voice she could’ve passed for young Candice Night. The quick, swift, wordy verses are serving for a contrast with the more reserved, melodic choruses with fantastic, climactic and captivating vocal melodies. The moments where two female singers join each other’s voices in those short harmonies just for a few seconds are also quite satisfying, but still, when the furtive verses erupt into this calm, yet massive and firm chorus… these moments give me chills. This is a definite hit with me.

        While Tim also received 9.5 in this round, his 9.5 is more like 9.25 scaled upwards, and your 9.5 is more like 9.75 scaled downwards, if you get what I’m saying. This band will have a high priority on my check-out list. Nice one indeed.

        9.5/10

        TAC: Shooting Star – Last Chance


        It seems that even-numbered rounds are definitely the ones you’re doing quite well. Maybe I just have to set the themes that will prevent you to send the longer, heavy progressive metal songs, and then you will have this in the bag. The funny thing is, this song clocks at almost seven minutes – which is only slightly less than Odd Dimension, The Paralydium Project and Iris Divine songs I’ve got – but it doesn’t feel like seven minutes. Or even if it does, it’s the seven minutes of mostly fantastic songwriting and musicianship.

        This song is a curious mix between calm parts supported by the kind of Space-Dye Vest-like violin melody and the faster parts, with an excellent instrumental break. Partly, this song might be the most beautiful thing I’ve received in this roulette yet, and partly it’s also one of the grooviest and rocking ones. The soulful, sad vocals that drive the verses along with violin usage might be one of my favourite moments from this whole roulette so far – the parts “I have witnessed forces like cannons that can ram you to the ground” and “Should we strike the first blow? He said: “No no no, you don't understand” are pure gold; and the instrumental break is fantastic and probably more impressive than any actual instrumental songs I’ve got in this round. Quiet beginning with piano, then the main violin melody with a considerably quicker pace, and the mighty Hammond organ of course, and then every instrument goes on, the bass, the drums, this is incredible.

        The only minor drawback in this song that keeps it from getting 10/10 is the chorus, which is kind of too happy and straightforward to my taste, but it’s still excellent with the guitar supporting it and overall atmosphere. I love how the instrumental part flows straight into it. Still, it’s not as excellent as the rest of the song. I wish it was more on the beautiful side than on the rocking one, but I’m happy with what I’ve got still.

        9.5/10

        senecadawg2: The Antlers – Palace


        After doing not so great a job with The Paralydium Project, Sylvan and Dream Evil – but not so terrible a job either – you finally found a song that appeals to me a lot.

        There was another very serene song in this round, courtesy of Tomislav, and I admit I’m quite harsh on that one, giving it a 6.5 or something like that, and this one gets a much better score, and I think the huge difference are: first off, the fantastic vocal melodies, and second is how organic and natural the whole tune sounds. I loved the how soft the vocals are, and I liked the brass instruments providing the rich texture in the background. Now, that probably won’t make any sense, but… that Bon Iver song I’ve got sounds lifeless, like it’s made of glass, fragile, brittle, cold to touch and all; and your song just radiates the warmth all around, evoking all the wistful memories of the past. It’s just a pure joy to listen to.

        This composition might not have something to elevate it to the absolutely perfect song, but it’s so nice. Chill, simple, soothing and captivating, this is without question your best song in this roulette so far. I bet the whiskey and cat approach will make it even better – I wasn’t able to try it since I’m quite busy at work these days, but I think this Friday will be a fine day to do it.

        9/10

        Big Hath: Yanni – The Rain Must Fall (live)


        I don’t necessarily see why it’s a bold submission – I mean, if you don’t send me power or progressive metal, it doesn’t automatically mean you’re going bold with the entries. Well, I do agree that sending a seven and a half minutes instrumental is kind of bold regardless of the genre, but that’s about it.

        This is one of the four instrumentals in this round, and I’ll be honest, I was somewhat apprehensive regarding the amount of instrumentals I received in this round – I mean, I don’t mind an occasional instrumental song or two – but four? Still, I shouldn’t have been apprehensive about this particular song, because it basically does a great job on everything, including the lightly sounding keyboards (piano?) in the first section and two solos in the second part. The bass solo is especially awe-inspiring, I totally agree with your assessment of it included in the PM. I don’t know anything about playing bass, but I love how he sounds incredibly clean and not muddy, every note can be heard easily and overall he plays really tight as far as my judgment goes. The violin solo is less impressive, but it still holds the mark. Despite the flashiness of those two solos, I appreciated the first part too. While one might dub it “elevator music”, I thought it was, well, maybe not gorgeous, but certainly beautiful.

        So all in all, this track was splendid, kept me interested for the whole length and that’s one quality I appreciate in this kind of tunes. Best instrumental of the round.

        9/10

        wolfking: The Tea Party – Psychopomp


        I noticed that usually when someone says “I don’t really know what to send for this round, this will probably be a screw-up for me”, he often ends up getting a nice score. I mean, it’s certainly better than say “haha guys, I’ve got this, I’ll win with this awesome song and you suck” and then end up last in the round, but still.

        Alternative rock… well, you know, this song is definitely on the better side of the spectrum for this genre based on what I’ve heard – not that I’ve heard much. I mean, it has some of those trademark moments like those busy choruses with some slight vocal effect on the singer’s voice, the persistent, repetitive and somewhat annoying keyboard riff, but overall this is quite a smooth song. I might even go as far as to say it’s great.

        My favourite part here is definitely the pre-chorus, the buildup to the chorus with the line I featured in the title when I posted the tidbits. I liked the calm, clean vocals and I thought the song became slightly less appealing when he went gritty on later choruses, but still, I feel they’ve nailed the vocal melodies in this, so despite the vocal effects and my issues with the instrumentation, I’m willing to give this tune a nice score. Still, plenty of time for you to screw-up – we’re only half-way through!

        8.5/10

        lonestar: Telergy – Astronomer


        I was surprised when I’ve got an instrumental from you – at this point, I knew about Telergy and I knew this album was mostly instrumental – but I never expected you to send me the song without any vocals. In my book, it was a risk for you, and now it’s you who should decide if it paid off or not.

        This is one of the four instrumentals in this round, and I think this one is my second favourite. Seven minutes in length, this one is quite long, yet just like that Yanni tune, it has plenty of things to catch my interest and keep it. After a fairly usual beginning, this song offers a fantastic violin solo which is just gorgeous, but then it takes an unexpected turn and after a few seconds of silence goes into the Ian Anderson-like flute solo which feels absolutely out of place for me. I don’t really mind the follow-up where the guitar joins up, and then we get the reprise of that riff in the beginning, but it mostly feels like they’ve used this to patch those two parts together after they broke the tune right in the middle between those two solos.

        All in all, that violin solo was stellar, but you’ll have to impress me more with the instrumental tune to get a higher score. Still, this was nice and enjoyable, and I will check this album some time after the roulette.

        8/10

        bl5150: Kompendium – The Moment of Clarity


        I’m looking at the line-up again as I’m writing this, and I’m baffled such a fine line-up (except one person I’ll get into later in this write-up) didn’t manage to impress me with this song that much. I mean, if I had scored this purely judging by your description, it would’ve been a 9.5 for sure. So let me explain why I didn’t.

        This song has two strong points in my book: the first one is this beautiful beginning with some nice guitar playing setting the mood for the song, and the second one is the saxophone solo which was a great idea to include into this song, and I like how the vocals behind it seem to support this solo and not the other way around. And when this song gets to its climax, with all the instruments playing around, the vocals are quite passable and maybe even good; but let us rewind the tune back to where the intro section ends and the very first verse starts. At this very moment this song becomes so sugary and sweet I have trouble to listen to it with the straight face – especially knowing some parts about the concept you provided me in your PM. I think it has that Disney atmosphere that people complain about in The Astonishing.

        I think part of my dislike of the vocals might be coming from my biased side, because I actually don’t like Steve Balsamo at all since he performed on tours with Jon Lord – the one time I saw him in 2011 he kind of butchered all the songs he was performing on. Pictures of Home, Pictured Within, Child in Time (I think he was on that one) and whatnot. So yeah, it probably wasn’t a good idea to send me something Steve Balsamo fronted, but the strong points of this song are enough to make it good.

        Also, this song segues into Tomislav’s Beth / Rest perfectly, it’s like they’re placed in this exact order on one album or something. I haven’t even noticed the transition the first time around. Unfortunately, you both are probably going to get somewhat average (but still decent, just ask Tim or Chad!) score in this round. It's almost 8/10, but it's not.

        7.5/10

        Bolsters: Circle of Illusion – New Age


        I know this is not what any participant wants to see in the very beginning of their write-up, but… I’m not doing it on purpose. I really want to give you a great score, maybe nine or even better, yet for it to happen you have to send me something great, and this is the fourth round in a row you aren’t able to do it. It’s probably surprising for you, and it’s definitely hell of a surprise for me, especially because you were doing so well in qualifiers.

        This has that problem I had with The Paralydium Project all over again. The song is long, and it has some great moments – the intro before the singers go in is definitely one of those, the main chorus melody on guitar sounds much better than it does with the vocals later in the song, and the heavy guitars right before the vocals kick in are quite good. I liked some singers much more than others, especially some of the female vocal parts like “Fate has brought you here where nothing’s real except the inner turbulence you feel” and the operatic vocals in “Your quest has not ended, new duties will cross your way”; but I totally disliked some other vocal melodies: right in the beginning, the chorus, the ending… Curiously, I didn’t mind the quickly delivered lyrics in the middle, though on the first listen I thought these would be a problem.

        There was plenty of what I disliked on this song, but what pushed it in the “good” department for me is that theatrical approach with all those instruments I wanted to get in this round. This seems to be a well though-out epic concept album, and maybe my opinion of this song will change when I listen to the whole thing. I was able to find the booklet on their official site – in fact, I seem to remember someone from DTF actively promoted this album a year or two ago. I think this might be a great album (and, perhaps, a great tune) if I only give it more time. But so far, unfortunately, this is another decent score. I know this must be frustrating, but, well, that’s how it is.

        7.5/10

        jingle.boy: Shadow Circus – …Then In July, The Thunder Came


        This certainly is the most intriguing song title in this round, and with Jon’s The Rain Must Fall those could make a nice pair of the titles. I really didn’t expect this one to be an instrumental on the first listen, kept waiting for some haunting vocals to burst in, and none came. Unlike the thunder, I guess!

        This is one of the four instrumentals in this round, and seriously, what this tune does most impeccably is living up to its name with this steady pounding drumming in front of the mix. All the string instruments are definitely fitting, and I like the electric guitar playing over those drums, and I think the break in the pace towards the end helps this song a lot – otherwise it would’ve got too repetitive, and even with the break it kind of already balances on the edge. I mean, I get we get different strings / guitar passages, but when the drums are repeating one beat so overwhelmingly in the song, it could get a bit tiresome. I associated this break with uplifting keyboard sounds with the end of thunder when the sun finally rises and everything gets nice, but then it reverts back to this ominous beat.

        Unlike Train of Naught’s song, this one has a decent ending and the instruments are picked just fine, but in my opinion, this tune lacks some pronounced structure and any pay-off whatsoever. I think it could serve as either the instrumental intro or outro on the album, but it’s not something I would get out of the way to listen to. Maybe it makes more sense in the context of the album?

        So I won’t do any pep talk, but I kindly ask you not to start sending me Animotion just because you didn’t get a nine this time. I haven’t even heard anything from Animotion, but I trust Dave’s reaction to this song.

        7.5/10

        Train of Naught: Apocalyptica – Path


        To be honest and fair, I can see how Lucas thought these were some badly-mixed overly distorted guitars if he didn’t read your warning indeed. Because while I get those are cellos (rhythm cellos?) they sure do sound like electric guitars mixed by some student in his home-made studio or whatever. Knowing those are cellos helps to appreciate this song a bit more.

        This is one of the four instrumentals in this round, and this one feels remarkably like a soundtrack to some videogame. I know you mentioned Zelda in your write-up, but I never played this one. It’s got this slightly epic feeling, building the tension, and I really like how cellos are used in this song, playing both rhythm and lead sections, and I guess the only other things here are bass and drums. While this instruments set-up is eclectic and interesting, I guess this song could use something else. What it definitely could use is the better ending, because despite I don’t want this song to be much longer than three minutes – it does its job quite neatly in this short time – I would like to see the proper ending and not this abrupt lazy attempt at closing up the song. I’ve checked the next song on the album and this ending doesn’t work in context of the album either.

        This wasn’t as impressive as some other instrumentals I’ve got in this round, but this was nice. It was consistently good, but I thought it lacked the proper ending and something else I can’t quite pinpoint. I can’t really see myself listening to this kind of songs often and if the whole album is like that, I would probably get bored quickly.

        7.5/10

        Tomislav95: Bon Iver – Beth / Rest


        Really, I could’ve pulled a short write-up mode for this song and wrote something along the lines “This is chill, but it’s really not my kind of chill” and give you the decent score – because nothing from this tune grabbed my attention – but I’m going to try to explain why I didn’t like it that much.

        It’s not that the tune itself is bad. It’s easy on the ears, and it has some really nice moments, serene mood, and some nice guitar / saxophone passages behind the vocals… but it’s just so unmemorable for me. I listened to it a lot of times, and I had to force myself to pay attention to it, because otherwise my mind just drifted away. I guess what this song really lacked is some strong vocal melodies to keep it all together. I couldn’t sing you any vocal line from this song – well, it’s better to say I couldn’t hum any of them to you, because I can’t sing any vocal line from any song for the life of me (except in the shower I guess, but I’m sure I sound awful, maybe I should ask my neighbours about it).

        I didn’t look up the lyrics for this song, but I have a strong feeling he sings “It’s disaster!” at 4:00. No, it’s not a disaster, it’s a decent score.

        6.5/10

        Dr. DTVT: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum – Angle of Repose


        Well, no matter how you scored with this song, it definitely earns the “Most interesting band name of the round” award. It’s also by far my least favourite song of the round. I think the fact you were unable to access your music library and pick something better probably affected your choice, or maybe this song is awesome and my music tastes just suck, but I struggled to find anything I liked here.

        There are definitely those instruments I asked for in this round. There are some female vocals I think I should’ve liked more – yet I don’t even like them. When the singer goes with her clean vocals, I don’t mind her voice, but she still sounds like she’s a bit fatigued, doesn’t care about anything; and when she adds some rasp and grit in the song climax, well, this is where it becomes grating. But the singer isn’t the only problem here. I mean, I find the very first riffs irksome and irritating. I have nothing to latch on in this song, and what makes this fact even worse, it lasts eight minutes.

        You’ve provided me some excellent songs in this roulette and the previous one, but I can say this isn’t one of them. Sorry, but this song is definitely on the worst side of the spectrum for this genre – and I don’t even know what kind of genre this is. Experimental indie-progressive-avant-garde rock? Anyway, I might even go as far as to say this is a disaster. I tried to keep an open mind for this round, but this just isn’t for me. This song had some small redeeming qualities, and it wasn’t downright unlistenable, but that’s about it.

        On a somewhat unrelated note, how many times the word “tiny” is used in this song? I haven’t counted but I think the number must be at least ten.

        4/10
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 02:17:21 PM
        (I exceeded the symbol limit in my last message, so we continue here)

        Bands added to banned list:

        Lyriel
        Shooting Star
        The Antlers
        Yanni
        The Tea Party
        Telergy
        Kompendium
        Circle of Illusion
        Shadow Circus
        Apocalyptica

        The scoreboard:

        wolfking - 36.5
        Big Hath - 34.5
        lonestar - 34
        TAC - 33.5
        bl5150 - 33


        senecadawg2 - 32
        ErHaO - 32

        (the cut-off line, will matter after Round 6)

        Tomislav95 - 31.5
        jingle.boy - 31
        Bolsters - 30.5
        Train of Naught - 30.5
        Dr. DTVT - 27.5
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 02:17:37 PM
        Round 5: Open

        Another open round, and unfortunately, this one will actually be the last open round in this roulette for six of you. I guess you guys should pretty much know my tastes now, so just send whatever you think I'll like. And this is also your chance to send me some longer songs!

        The time-limit for this round is 15 minutes.

        Send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 16, 2016, 02:27:14 PM
        Glad you liked the song Ruslan. It did pretty well in Seneca's roulette as well. It is the standout track of the band. They have a few more good tunes, but to call them a second rate Kansas wouldn't do Kansas justice.
        If you decide to check them out further try the following tracks:
        Flesh And Blood
        Hollywood
        Whole World's Watching.
        The last two tracks are pretty mellow.

        I've had the second best song in a round twice, and the second worst song twice. :lol

        Guess I already know what I'm getting this round!

        You did get my Round 5 email right?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 16, 2016, 02:34:53 PM
        I really fucked it up this time, didn't I :lol I agree 6,5 is a decent score but competition is strong. It's funny you said vocal melodies aren't memorable because I often hum/sing this song. Different strokes I guess :-\
        I'll send something soon but I need to choose right thing because I don't really have much options for last round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 02:38:24 PM
        I really fucked it up this time, didn't I :lol I agree 6,5 is a decent score but competition is strong. It's funny you said vocal melodies aren't memorable because I often hum/sing this song. Different strokes I guess :-\
        I'll send something soon but I need to choose right thing because I don't really have much options for last round.

        I'm not sure if you read all the write-ups, but I also posted some thoughts about your song in Nelson's write-up (The Antlers - Palace). It wasn't only the not-memorable vocal melodies, I think it was the atmosphere of the tune too.

        Yeah Tim, I did get it, just forgot to answer your PM. Sorry about that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 16, 2016, 02:49:20 PM
        I really fucked it up this time, didn't I :lol I agree 6,5 is a decent score but competition is strong. It's funny you said vocal melodies aren't memorable because I often hum/sing this song. Different strokes I guess :-\
        I'll send something soon but I need to choose right thing because I don't really have much options for last round.

        I'm not sure if you read all the write-ups, but I also posted some thoughts about your song in Nelson's write-up (The Antlers - Palace). It wasn't only the not-memorable vocal melodies, I think it was the atmosphere of the tune too.

        Yeah Tim, I did get it, just forgot to answer your PM. Sorry about that.
        I read mine first :P
        Tastes are weird. Beth/Rest is song that gets me emotional, special tune for me :-\ now I feel I should have sent their other song in some other round, not because I got "decent" score but because I think you may like their first album (it's simpler than second and very emotional). I know I still can send Bon Iver but I probably won't :lol
        Also, Palace is great song. The Antlers is on my to-listen list for too long, I should finally check them.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 02:53:22 PM
        Tastes are weird. Beth/Rest is song that gets me emotional, special tune for me :-\

        Yeah, well, I'm sorry but I guess that's just how it works. I've sent a bunch of ballads in Train of Naught's roulette EP round and the one I love the most - the one I connect with the most - got the lowest score in the whole round and cost me the victory too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 16, 2016, 02:56:08 PM
        Tastes are weird. Beth/Rest is song that gets me emotional, special tune for me :-\

        Yeah, well, I'm sorry but I guess that's just how it works. I've sent a bunch of ballads in Train of Naught's roulette EP round and the one I love the most - the one I connect with the most - got the lowest score in the whole round and cost me the victory too.
        That's thing with ballads, they work different for different people :)
        Title: Official Converge Discography Discussion Thread
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 16, 2016, 03:11:59 PM
        Wow! Got away pretty lucky I think. I'm pretty positive my Path days are over, I mean, I like it and I don't regret sending it, but it is a pretty one-dimensional song that I probably like because of nostalgia more than anything.
        When I listened to that Sleepytime Gorilla Museum song I couldn't believe this was actually sent in Evermind's roulette  :lol I commend you for your huge balls and risktaking.
        Chances of going through to the "finals" are becoming slim, I don't think I have anything that fits your tastes that can get me something better than A Little Piece of Heaven, I'll try though.

        Sent Jane Doe for this round, I have no chance of winning this anyway
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 16, 2016, 03:43:24 PM
        senecadawg2: The Antlers – Palace[/b]
        fantastic vocal melodies, and second is how organic and natural the whole tune sounds. I loved the how soft the vocals are, and I liked the brass instruments providing the rich texture in the background. Now, that probably won’t make any sense, but…

        Actually, it makes perfect sense  :tup I saw these guys twice last year and each time left the concert feeling incredibly relaxed. Not bored or let down in the least, but so relaxed and also satisfied.

        Really glad you liked this song. It's definitely the oddball from my submissions so far, but I'm glad it's bumped me up to at least a tie before the cut-off. And that whole album should appeal to you, as it's generally at or above the same quality throughout. Definitely a good one for the whiskey and cat.


        The Antlers is on my to-listen list for too long, I should finally check them.

        Yes, I think that would be best for everyone.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 16, 2016, 04:01:46 PM
        is ever antlers song a 6-letter word where the first letter is P, the 2nd and 4th are A, and the last is E?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2016, 04:10:53 PM
        Hmm.....well I said to Ruslan at the start that I was going to try and push the boundaries by sending stuff that was outside my comfort zone (concepts) and possibly his ("happy" power metal) and so far that hasn't worked out very well despite my best efforts :lol    Time to make a decision on whether to persist with what I have lined up or play it safer in some (likely vain) attempt at a comeback.

        Surprised to see Shooting Star from you Tim - good song though  :tup .   
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 16, 2016, 04:31:37 PM
        SENT!

        is ever antlers song a 6-letter word where the first letter is P, the 2nd and 4th are A, and the last is E?

        I'd never noticed until now, but yes--they do all fit in that mold  :lol

        (or at least, two of my favorites)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 16, 2016, 05:00:46 PM
        Fair enough assessment. I really just didn't have anything for the theme. Now, stuggling in third place, it's go big or go home time. Sent a monster of a tune, could end up being a 9.5 or a 3. We'll see........
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
        Think I might send a leftover from Evermind 1 - when I seemed to have more of a clue  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Sacul on March 16, 2016, 05:30:15 PM
        Tastes are weird. Beth/Rest is song that gets me emotional, special tune for me :-\

        Yeah, well, I'm sorry but I guess that's just how it works. I've sent a bunch of ballads in Train of Naught's roulette EP round and the one I love the most - the one I connect with the most - got the lowest score in the whole round and cost me the victory too.
        That's thing with ballads, they work different for different people :)
        I think this is the only explanation of why I didn't really connect with Arc of Space :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
        Great writeups... still gotta get thru a couple of them - you do have the gift of gab.   :biggrin:  Not in a bad way though - I'd rather have your level of detail vs a 1-2 sentence blurb.

        Totally fair writeup on mine as well, and yeah, it is a different listen in the context of the entire album - as a standalone song, I can totally see how it's a little drab.

        Not to worry, I'm still only 1-2 points from making the cut (even though my gut says I'm not making it), so I'm still swinging for the fences.  No Animotion coming your way at all - I know exactly the card I'm playing.

        I think.   :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2016, 05:53:26 PM
        Sent................I am overthinking this and so just went for the only song in my Evermind list >10 mins.   Simple.  If you want to give me these sorts of scores then you can pay for it with your time  :lol

        And this is the only song I have where I think there is some chance of someone trying to send the same song.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2016, 05:57:32 PM
        Just to be clear, our songs don't HAVE to be >10 mins, right?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2016, 05:59:38 PM
        Just to be clear, our songs don't HAVE to be >10 mins, right?

        That's my understanding - just a max of 15 mins.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 16, 2016, 09:14:18 PM
        I think I might just have to bench Circle of Illusion and not send them in roulettes anymore. I love that album but I've never gotten anything higher than 7.5 or 8.5 in a roulette with any of their songs. I thought you might have been the one to finally give me a high score with them but I guess I was wrong. :lol

        Edit: Can I get away with 15:25 this round, or no?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2016, 09:40:28 PM
        I'll take that 8.5.

        Will find something tonight and send.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 16, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
        The songs don't have to be longer than 10 minutes.

        I wrote in the OP about lengths, but shortly, yes, you can get away with 15:25.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Sacul on March 16, 2016, 10:29:14 PM
        Yup, knew you'd dislike that SGM song  :P

        That reminds me I should revisit Of Natural History.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 16, 2016, 10:29:41 PM
        I wrote in the OP about lengths, but shortly, yes, you can get away with 15:25.
        Cool. Sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 05:50:17 AM
        Surprised to see Shooting Star from you Tim - good song though  :tup .

        Why? They are a cool fogey band. I had their first three albums when I was a kid, and I specifically wore out Hang On For Your Life.
        Still never figured out if they were a pedestrian band that got lucky with some great tunes, or a great band that sucked half the time..



        I had an awesome long song (between 10-15) for this round, but long songs haven't seemed to do that well here. I ended up sending the song that I should've sent in the round 3.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 17, 2016, 05:53:26 AM
        Damnation Angels song was 9+ minutes and both Redemption and Suspyre were well past seven minutes, so it's not exactly the length problem, really.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 05:54:37 AM
        OK, so I should've said MY long songs! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2016, 05:54:58 AM
        Surprised to see Shooting Star from you Tim - good song though  :tup .

        Why? They are a cool fogey band.

        Well I suppose later on they became more an AOR band - not a band too many metalheads would be talking about and the sort of band you might find in that DTF thread you love so much  :lol   The earlier stuff (like you sent) rocked a bit more though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 17, 2016, 05:56:52 AM
        My only great score was the only time where I went with an 8+ minute song, been sending a lot of short songs. This round, I went with a fairly short one again. the only long song I'm confident in is like 19 minutes so that would give me a 4 point penalty  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 06:12:04 AM
        Surprised to see Shooting Star from you Tim - good song though  :tup .

        Why? They are a cool fogey band.

        Well I suppose later on they became more an AOR band - not a band too many metalheads would be talking about and the sort of band you might find in that DTF thread you love so much  :lol   The earlier stuff (like you sent) rocked a bit more though.

        Seemed the term AOR changed in connotation over the years. Album Oriented Rock was exactly what a band like Shooting Star was. Seemed AOR somehow became Wimp Rock. Should've been renamed WOR!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:15:28 AM
        Might have to wait 24 hours to send a song.  Haven't really had a chance to look for something and it's already 10:15.  :-\
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 06:17:52 AM
        Might have to wait 24 hours to send a song.  Haven't really had a chance to look for something and it's already 10:15.  :-\

        Let's get keen on it, bro!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:19:54 AM
        Might have to wait 24 hours to send a song.  Haven't really had a chance to look for something and it's already 10:15.  :-\

        Let's get keen on it, bro!

        Um, who's leading at the moment?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 06:23:52 AM
        Might have to wait 24 hours to send a song.  Haven't really had a chance to look for something and it's already 10:15.  :-\

        Let's get keen on it, bro!

        Um, who's leading at the moment?

        (https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1a/1af3308ba37e5f57b9f73a71e522ee942522a7fcd7be43c3dc24c9e09d31b401.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:28:10 AM
        You asked for it.   :lol

        I actually hate shit talking to be honest.  It may come back to bite me in the ass haha.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2016, 06:39:16 AM
        so it's not exactly the length problem, really.

        :eyebrows:

        (https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1a/1af3308ba37e5f57b9f73a71e522ee942522a7fcd7be43c3dc24c9e09d31b401.jpg)

        You'd rather he rub it "out"?

        :zydarscouch:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 06:47:56 AM
        Actually, I'd rather he not rub anything at all! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 17, 2016, 12:38:24 PM
        :lol

        I actually hate shit talking to be honest.  It may come back to bite me in the ass haha.

        I used to think like that but now I kind of don't mind it. If you do some trash talk and then it turns out you suck in the next few rounds you can just laugh at yourself and it's all fine. It's kind of fun.

        Anyway, I've got nine songs already. I need Kade, Mason and Casper to send their entries, and it would be awesome if I can get them in the next 24 hours so I can start listening at the weekend. :tup Given that I've received some lengthy songs in this round, the faster I can start listening, the better.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 03:56:14 PM
        You will receive mine in approx 14 hours mate.

        Actually, I'd rather he not rub anything at all! :lol

        Don't make me bring that pic out again Tim.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 17, 2016, 06:45:29 PM
        Like you need a reason?  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:48:41 PM
        Like you need a reason?  :lol

        Yeah, who I am kidding.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2016, 06:09:32 AM
        Okay, just sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 18, 2016, 06:47:59 AM
        Okay, just rejected. ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 18, 2016, 06:51:17 AM
        (https://www.lolzgif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/basketball-cool-block-shot.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 18, 2016, 11:07:08 AM
         :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 18, 2016, 04:36:27 PM
        Awesome! Nice you liked the songs I send to you the last two rounds  ;D I think Suspyre has many fresh sounding songs and those sax-sections are there in some other songs as well, but it is definitely not their "gimmick". They have plenty of material with interesting combinations. Not all of them work to the same extent (depending on taste, offcourse), but I really like that slight weirdness their songs often tend to have. Their vocalist is quite strong as well and has some similarities to the likes of Russel Allen, I think. The album When Time Fades is great in particular. Their self-titled is a great piece of work as well, but was a bit harder to digest for me at first. As for Lyriel, I really like a good bunch of their songs, but I am not overly familiar with listening to their albums as a whole. I'd check out Paranoid Circus and then Leverage, probably. Either way, I think they are a fun band with lovely vocals.


        Also, why didn't I ever think of Damnation Angels  :facepalm: (Not that it would've mattered anyways, as I would've been cockblocked).


        Anyways, I have a selection of three songs now, need to give them another spin first. So I will send mine soon, in a few hours or tomorrow early in the morning ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2016, 05:04:51 PM
        Damn, alright give me 10 minutes.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2016, 05:23:03 PM
        Take 2.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 19, 2016, 04:00:13 AM
        Sent!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 19, 2016, 04:13:42 AM
        Got it, thank you!

        That leaves only Mason. I think we shouldn't hurry him up lest he sends another Sleepytime Gorilla Museum-like song. I will start listening today anyway, because some songs for this round are pretty long and it's possible I'll need a bit more time than usual to digest them.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 19, 2016, 07:33:50 AM
        I'm one listen in and we might have another 10/10 here. It's too early to judge now, but I loved one of the songs so much.

        And overall, this seems like a magnificent round. Might be the strongest yet.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 19, 2016, 10:23:15 AM

        And overall, this seems like a magnificent round. Might be the strongest yet.
        You keep saying that! :lol

        That's great. Glad you're liking the tracks.  That's what it's all about. Some great tastes in music participating in this roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 19, 2016, 10:08:27 PM
        I'm one listen in and we might have another 10/10 here. It's too early to judge now, but I loved one of the songs so much.

        pleasebeminepleasebeminepleasebemine


        It seriously could be though, the song is a beast, and to the right ear it's fucking irresistably intense.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 20, 2016, 01:52:08 AM
        Good to see that, even though it's highly unlikely mine. You're getting a lot of good stuff this roulette it seems  :metal should keep you busy for the next ten years until you do the third one.

        I'm curious how many people have sent 10-15 min songs, mine's like 5 minutes.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 20, 2016, 02:00:04 AM
        Good to see that, even though it's highly unlikely mine. You're getting a lot of good stuff this roulette it seems  :metal should keep you busy for the next ten years until you do the third one.

        I'm curious how many people have sent 10-15 min songs, mine's like 5 minutes.

        Indeed. I'm very happy with the list of participants I've got for this one, and the amount of great songs is significantly increased compared to my first roulette. I will probably end up checking out ~10 bands from each round or something like that. It's hard to believe how many great bands are out there that I've been missing all these years.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2016, 03:43:26 AM
        I'm one listen in and we might have another 10/10 here. It's too early to judge now, but I loved one of the songs so much.

        And overall, this seems like a magnificent round. Might be the strongest yet.

        Big call after one listen.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 20, 2016, 05:10:27 AM
        I'm one listen in and we might have another 10/10 here. It's too early to judge now, but I loved one of the songs so much.

        And overall, this seems like a magnificent round. Might be the strongest yet.

        Big call after one listen.

        Yeah, curious about all the entries now  ;D

        Haven't given the last round a spin yet, but there have been quite some artists I am interested in or have (unrightfully) forgotten about thus far. To my surprise, the overlap with my list of potential artists to send has been quite limited actually.

        Good to see that, even though it's highly unlikely mine. You're getting a lot of good stuff this roulette it seems  :metal should keep you busy for the next ten years until you do the third one.

        I'm curious how many people have sent 10-15 min songs, mine's like 5 minutes.

        Mine's short as well (but not in the slightest less epic than the more lengthy songs I first considered :metal)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 20, 2016, 06:32:08 AM

        I'm curious how many people have sent 10-15 min songs, mine's like 5 minutes.

        So is mine. I had a 10-15 all picked out but it didn't seem to jive with what was going on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2016, 06:37:34 AM
        Mine was 12 mins+
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Fortune is a furtive friend indeed (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 20, 2016, 08:02:24 AM
        I'm one listen in and we might have another 10/10 here. It's too early to judge now, but I loved one of the songs so much.

        And overall, this seems like a magnificent round. Might be the strongest yet.

        Big call after one listen.

        In fact, I felt that way about three more songs during this roulette - Redemption, W.A.S.P. and The Dead Lord ones. Out of those, only W.A.S.P. ended up getting 10/10, so nothing is certain at this point.

        I'm still waiting for Mason to send, but I'm listening to your songs here and there, so the round is underway.

        Edit: I've sent a PM to Mason, so we're waiting for his song and then I'll post the blurred picture. Still, I'm listening to the rest of the songs, so I'll try my best to make the delay as short as possible.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: TAC on March 20, 2016, 02:37:10 PM
        Hey look on the bright side. At least we're not waiting on him to score a round.

        :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
        Hey look on the bright side. At least we're not waiting on him to score a round.

        :neverusethis:

        (https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/turkeyonthehill/oh-snap.gif)

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2016, 07:08:14 AM
        :lol

        Well, he did send his song today but he used the band that earned him 9.5 in my first roulette so I had to reject the song.

        Anyway, I'll post the first picture this evening, regardless of getting the last song.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 21, 2016, 07:35:58 AM
        Nice.  :)
        I bet no one will be able to guess my song from the blurred picture
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 21, 2016, 08:38:04 AM
        Well, having four different banned lists is kind of annoying, I don't see why the first three couldn't have been combined into one.  I understand the why keeping the newly banned as a separate list is helpful though.  Resent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 21, 2016, 08:46:40 AM
        I just use ctr+F, no need for checking the lists seperately ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2016, 08:59:30 AM
        I wanted people to know how I reacted to the bands they sent me a year ago, which ones stayed in my regular rotation and which ones I didn't find too great, this kind of thing, hence the two additional short lists. I can see how it can be annoying though. I guess I just recommend using Ctrl+F too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 21, 2016, 09:09:46 AM
        Ctrl+F doesn't work on iPhones
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I better get my shit together (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2016, 11:11:19 AM
        You're right... just search in the url bar, and it gives you an option to "find on this page".

        iPhone tricks 101.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2016, 11:42:42 AM
        I was just about to ask if there's no "find on the page" function at all. :lol

        So, here's the update. First, have this blurred pic. I tried not to give everything away from the very first pic like someone in the parallel roulette did ::) , not sure if I succeeded though. You decide!

        (https://i.imgur.com/fn6vZ9G.jpg)

        Now, the 10/10 song from the first listen lost its appeal a bit, and now I'd say it's a solid 9.5. Still a fantastic song though.

        And regarding the pace, the second picture (if needed) is going up tomorrow, tidbits are scheduled on Wednesday and I hope to deliver the results at Thursday.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Sacul on March 21, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
        Someone sent Klone or Oceansize, nice.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Crow on March 21, 2016, 11:52:16 AM
        definitely not oceansize, they don't have any songs that name could possibly be. also the letter before the z looks like an a
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2016, 11:53:22 AM
        You can always count on Parama getting his Oceansize facts straight.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 21, 2016, 12:13:26 PM
        Someone sent Klone or Oceansize, nice.
        Someone else know Klone woohooo :D

        I see Beyond Twilight and nothing else.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Crow on March 21, 2016, 12:26:15 PM
        You can always count on Parama getting his Oceansize facts straight.
        to be fair there's a small handful of obscure oceansize songs I'm not familiar with but I don't think any of their names match either
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on March 21, 2016, 12:29:18 PM
        I see Beyond twilight too. And is the first one Pyramaze?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 21, 2016, 12:43:09 PM
        Looks like Vision Divine too. Lots of bands being scratched off the list this round . . .
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2016, 12:51:33 PM
        I see Beyond twilight too. And is the first one Pyramaze?

        No, Teramaze.  I was conteplating sending that fuckin song - just listened to it this morning actually.  Wouldn't surprise me if it's the 9.5 song.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2016, 12:54:04 PM
        I also see Subsignal / Finisterre
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 21, 2016, 12:54:40 PM
        I think I recognise Pyramaze and Edenbridge, though I can't confirm or say which songs without looking at Spotify. And others give me that feeling of "hey, this seems familiar, but I can't exactly say from what". So yeah, I am expecting this to be quite the cockblock round, though it remains to be seen if that will matter for me :p

        Edit: oh, Tyramaze, never heard of them  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
        I see Beyond twilight too. And is the first one Pyramaze?

        No, Teramaze.  I was conteplating sending that fuckin song - just listened to it this morning actually.  Wouldn't surprise me if it's the 9.5 song.

        Actually I did receive Pyramaze for this round, but I had to reject the song because it was Back for More from their latest album Disciples of the Sun, and I know that one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on March 21, 2016, 01:23:39 PM
        Kade sent that one to me as well.

        Or did he send Cans- Beyond The Gates again?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 21, 2016, 01:32:42 PM
        Edenbridge - The Bonding.

        I see Beyond twilight too. And is the first one Pyramaze?

        No, Teramaze.  I was conteplating sending that fuckin song - just listened to it this morning actually.  Wouldn't surprise me if it's the 9.5 song.

        Actually I did receive Pyramaze for this round, but I had to reject the song because it was Back for More from their latest album Disciples of the Sun, and I know that one.

        Just curious, I put Pyramaze on my "consider if artist list runs thin" reserve list (not too familiar with all their work, so don't know their best songs), do you like them?

        I know them primarily because Matt Barlow did an album with them and he is simply awesome  (of Iced Earth fame, the guy who sung Dracula from your last roulette). I recall liking Immortal (the one with Barlow) and the Bone Collector, but haven't listened to them for quite a while.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
        I only know their latest album and I liked it a lot. Anything from their other albums is allowed.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 21, 2016, 01:43:16 PM
        Vision Divine - Mermaids from Their Moons

        And, edit, I think I see Consortium Project - Enemy Within.

        And possibly Prospekt - The Great Awakening.

        I only know their latest album and I liked it a lot. Anything from their other albums is allowed.

        Ah, well, I am going to give that one a try then  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 21, 2016, 02:16:31 PM
        Damn, I actually really needed that 10 to get back into the competition for finals, I guess a 9.5 is alright too though.

        Oh and I recognize nothibg except for Teramaze which I really thought would be banned  :-\
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: lonestar on March 21, 2016, 02:56:16 PM
        And possibly Prospekt - The Great Awakening.

        OK, I'm impressed, Didn't think anyone even knew them.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2016, 03:02:23 PM
        Kade sent that one to me as well.

        Or did he send Cans- Beyond The Gates again?

        Yeah, the Cans is me.  But I did try and send Back For More.  Weird they popped up from someone else from a different album. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on March 21, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
        The Cans did you well the last time. I have that album, but have not listened to it ages.
        I love his voice.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2016, 06:01:43 PM
        The Cans did you well the last time. I have that album, but have not listened to it ages.
        I love his voice.

        It's good to hear his voice on Beyond the Gates.  IMO Jociam is pretty wasted these days in Hammerfall, he should do some other stuff, and BTG shows that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2016, 07:41:32 PM
        The Cans did you well the last time. I have that album, but have not listened to it ages.
        I love his voice.

        I enjoyed it plenty as well - didn't make the purchase though.

        Vision Divine - Mermaids from Their Moons

        And, edit, I think I see Consortium Project - Enemy Within.

        And possibly Prospekt - The Great Awakening.


        Yes... well done Kimosabe.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 21, 2016, 07:58:27 PM
        I also see Subsignal / Finisterre

        Bravo good sir.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:46:39 AM
        No, Teramaze.  I was conteplating sending that fuckin song - just listened to it this morning actually. 

        (https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/costanza-wink.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2016, 05:54:36 AM
        Using Chad's gif right back in his face, good stuff.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My reason's falling, falling, falling... (Pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 22, 2016, 10:29:50 AM
        I can't be the only one who has been staring at these pictures from time to time like a moron trying to figure out the names, and people sitting next to me questioning it.  :lol

        Still got nothing that hasn't already been mentioned.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 22, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
        I left anything that wasn't called directly in the thread blurred... which is not much. You guys are really too good at guessing.

        (https://i.imgur.com/ca3z0qP.jpg)

        Tidbits tomorrow!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 22, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
        #9 is The Dear Hunter with that title
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 22, 2016, 01:12:33 PM
        The National - Slow Show? I got this one in my roulette I think, so I'm pretty sure about that one.

        The last one is Love to Love (live) but I don't know the artist. Not using spotify this time to make it a bit more interesting.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 22, 2016, 02:32:31 PM

        The last one is Love to Love (live) but I don't know the artist. 

        It's UFO and I'm NOT happy about it! ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 22, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
        Teramaze is An Ordinary Dream (Enla Momento).  I just didn't explicitly call it out earlier.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2016, 03:15:43 PM
        The song by Beyond Twilight too is Shadowland.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 22, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
        The song by Consortium Project is Enemy Within.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 22, 2016, 08:52:05 PM
        The song by Consortium Project is Enemy Within.

        (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/13/a2/a8/13a2a8b73313a434da97c3541e405e91.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 23, 2016, 01:49:29 AM
        The song by The Dear Hunter has 70 characters in its title
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Elite on March 23, 2016, 01:55:21 AM
        It's 'The Bitter Suite IV and V: The Congregation and the Sermon in the Silk'. Weren't TDH banned?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 23, 2016, 01:58:52 AM
        Nope. Evermind even said in a PM during the prelims that he expected me to send them at some point. The only song he has heard before is King of Swords, I recall him saying he wasnt impressed.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Elite on March 23, 2016, 02:03:23 AM
        Hmm, I could have sent them. I probably deliberately chose not to though, we'll see if it was a good or bad idea. Interesting choice for a song by them. I'm not saying it's a bad track at all, but I would have sent something else I think.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 23, 2016, 02:19:06 AM
        Yeah I had a very hard time picking a song, I was actually saving TDH for the "2 songs by 1 band" round. I think just before I sent it I narrowed it down to 5 songs. This one, The Poison Woman, He Said He Had a Story, The Lake and the River and Mustard Gas (yeah, I love act III  :P)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Elite on March 23, 2016, 02:48:49 AM
        What the ... :lol those are weird choices as well! :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 23, 2016, 06:10:36 AM
        What song would've been your choice then?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2016, 07:03:47 AM
        What song would've been your choice then?

        Not to send The Dear Hunter.   :lol  Fun music, but it would never cross my mind to send in this roulette
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 07:09:34 AM
        What song would've been your choice then?

        Not to send The Dear Hunter.   :lol   
        :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 23, 2016, 07:11:47 AM
        :emo:

        For the artist pick, maybe those are weird choices, but for this roulette I think they're very viable (apart from maybe Mustard Gas)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Elite on March 23, 2016, 07:38:07 AM
        What song would've been your choice then?

        Not to send The Dear Hunter.   :lol  Fun music, but it would never cross my mind to send in this roulette

        Indeed. Probably why I didn't. Bit if I had sent them I would have gone with Red Hands, or maybe A Night on the Town.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2016, 09:13:59 AM
        What song would've been your choice then?

        Not to send The Dear Hunter.   :lol  Fun music, but it would never cross my mind to send in this roulette

        Indeed. Probably why I didn't. Bit if I had sent them I would have gone with Red Hands, or maybe A Night on the Town.

        Watch ... Tha'tll be the near perfect score, ToN will be laughing all the way to the final!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Back to back at the end of the world (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 23, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
        What song would've been your choice then?

        Not to send The Dear Hunter.   :lol   
        :lol

        :rollin

        Well, I don't mind an occasional oddball or two, you just have to pick the right song. Susanne Sundfor did well in my first roulette, as did Dog Fashion Disco and probably a few other bands too. In case with The Dear Hunter though, I've heard King of Swords (Reversed) on Nick's radio show and I was not impressed.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 23, 2016, 12:22:14 PM
        Anyway, I've got the tidbits. You can expect a lot of great scores this time around, this round was fantastic.

        (https://i.imgur.com/dAxSZEn.jpg)

        I can’t help but mention that this guy – from the very first note – sounds like Jorn. And just for the DTF Smartass Club – this tidbit isn’t about Beyond Twilight.

        There are some songs where the spoken parts are my favourite parts of the whole composition – Song of Myself (partly) and When The Walls Go Down are good examples – and this one is on the verge of joining them.

        You really should’ve sent this song earlier, could’ve gained you more of those points everyone seem to be so crazy about.

        This is just infectious to the point of ridiculousness. I’ve spent all these days starting from Monday humming the whole song quietly to myself. And what’s even better, the melodies are not infectious in annoying way, not at all – it’s rather they’re infectious in a “hell yeah” way.

        Wow, without a doubt, this is by far the most intense song of the round.

        This is a great call. I don’t know how to put it without huge spoilers, but you could see how partial I am to this music in my first roulette, and from my banned list too I guess – and your song isn’t an exception.


        Results tomorrow most likely. There is a small chance I'll have to push them back to Friday, but I think I'll manage to get them up tomorrow.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 23, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
        More of those could apply to my song and I hope one of positive reactions is really reaction to it. I want my precious points... Gollum...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 23, 2016, 12:56:00 PM
        Be calm, the doctor's in, I got the cure, because I know where you've been  :metal

        I've no idea if one of these is mine, but #3 and #4 are definitely possible even though the third could probably not have been more of a general statement.

        I'm sad not to be a part of the DTF smartass club as I have no idea who Beyond Twilight are.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2016, 12:57:20 PM
        All good comments!  I hope mine is in there somewhere.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 12:58:40 PM
        All good comments!  I hope mine is in there somewhere.

        Me too!

        Mine that is..  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 23, 2016, 01:00:44 PM
        I'm sad not to be a part of the DTF smartass club as I have no idea who Beyond Twilight are.

        Well, Jorn sings on that Beyond Twilight song I've got. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
        I'm sad not to be a part of the DTF smartass club as I have no idea who Beyond Twilight are.

        Well, Jorn sings on that Beyond Twilight song I've got. :lol

        Good thing you put that disclaimer in there, because I would've carved you up for it.  Surprisingly, I wasn't a huge fan of either of the 1st two Beyond Twilight albums - which shocked me given my love of both Jorn and Kelly Carpenter.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 23, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
        I'm sad not to be a part of the DTF smartass club as I have no idea who Beyond Twilight are.

        Well, Jorn sings on that Beyond Twilight song I've got. :lol

        Good thing you put that disclaimer in there, because I would've carved you up for it.

        Welcome to the club then!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2016, 01:34:15 PM
        I'm sad not to be a part of the DTF smartass club as I have no idea who Beyond Twilight are.

        Well, Jorn sings on that Beyond Twilight song I've got. :lol

        Good thing you put that disclaimer in there, because I would've carved you up for it.

        Welcome to the club then!

        When do the hookers show up?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 23, 2016, 10:58:53 PM
        I can't come up with any smart-ass answer to this one so I guess I don't belong in the club myself. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 05:07:31 AM
        Just an off note regarding Jorn and Beyond Twlilight, the song Crying is my fav all time Jorn performance.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 24, 2016, 05:28:13 AM
        Just stumbled upon something great for round 4  :facepalm: if only I was just 2 weeks earlier with this find..

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 24, 2016, 06:40:31 AM
        So, is this shit gonna happen today or what? :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2016, 07:01:59 AM
        So, is this shit gonna happen today or what? :corn

        Someone's home from vacation?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2016, 09:07:14 AM
        So, is this shit gonna happen today or what? :corn

        Yep, results today. Just got home from work. Except them to be up in about 4 - maybe 5 - hours from now on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 24, 2016, 09:44:54 AM
        Great. Can't wait to see what fucker sent UFO.
        It's MY band!


        Honor the code!!!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2016, 10:21:59 AM
        Great. Can't wait to see what fucker sent UFO.
        It's MY band!


        Honor the code!!!

        Bro's before UFO's!  amirite?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 24, 2016, 10:25:12 AM
        Just an off note regarding Jorn and Beyond Twlilight, the song Crying is my fav all time Jorn performance.

        Yeah, that one is fantastic as well. I sent Beyond Twilight. I was considering Crying as well, but went for Shadowland as I overall enjoy it more. At first I was caught off guard by the weirdness of the whole thing, as I was expecting more regular prog metal in the vein of Ark, for example. The music is often supportive to the vocals and aims on atmosphere (not to say the musicianship isn't admirable. It blends extremely well with the vocals like a soundtrack at times). But it grew massively on me and I consider Jorn's vocals to be one of the most intense vocal performances on any album. But I can totally see why it doesn't click with some, as is the case with Jingle Boy.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And your confidence is fading (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 24, 2016, 10:35:39 AM
        Great. Can't wait to see what fucker sent UFO.
        It's MY band!


        Honor the code!!!

        Bro's before UFO's!  amirite?

        Youareright!


        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2016, 01:26:43 PM
        I know I look like I'm too generous this round, but well, I was always generous with the songs I liked, and who can blame me that I gathered the twelve participants that I knew will be able to send me amazing songs in every round? Also, I warned you about a lot of high scores in this round, didn't I? Well, here we go.

        Round 5 Results:

        Bolsters: Edenbridge – The Bonding

        You know, maybe some people thought the long songs won’t work in this roulette because I rated some of those quite low; and other people still think that on the prog forum the longer the song is, the better. I can’t confirm any of this, and the fact the longest song of this round ended up being the best… well, you can’t attribute that to the length. It’s just the song was that amazing.

        Saving this for the EP round would’ve been a great call – provided you had some other short songs from different bands to fill the EP with – if only you weren’t in such a dire situation on the verge of elimination. In the EP round, this song might’ve secured you the victory… in this round though, this song secured you a perfect score. I’ve been thinking about this score a lot, it was an instant love at first listen worth 10 out of 10, then I began to find the minor flaws in this song and reduced the score to 9.5; in the end, I think I’ve grown to love even the moments I disliked before, and the score became perfect again. Because it’s simply awesome.

        This is one of the most excellent symphonic metal songs I’ve heard. It really has it all, the initial build-up, the back-and-forth acoustic / aggressive middle section where the female and the guest male singer trade off their lines, the simple – but not simplistic – and quite magnificent and glorious acoustic instrumental section, and the highly grandiloquent ending in the vein of DT’s Octavarium, everything is polished to perfection in this song. Curiously, “I’m beyond belief” / “How can I feel you if it’s all beyond belief?” trade-off in the middle makes me chuckle just a bit – the male vocalist appropriately sounds a bit pissed; and I can’t help but mention that this guy – judging by his very first note where he goes “ooooh” – kind of sounds like Jorn. I like how his voice plays in contrast with the beautiful female vocals. I love the instrumental breakdown. Damn, it’s easier to say what I didn’t like about this song in the end – that would be nothing. I didn’t look on the scoreboard, and I don’t remember the standings, but I think you just improved your chances on making the cut dramatically.

        By the way, does she sing “It’s not penis, it’s not warmth” at 13:38?

        10/10

        Train of Naught: The Dear Hunter - The Bitter Suite IV and V: The Congregation and The Sermon in the Silt


        The Dear Hunter. It’s one of those bands I always was interested in, but never checked out. In case of TDH though, I’ve heard King of Swords (Reversed) from this very album, and I was not impressed at all, so I, well, not exactly gave up on them, but just put them out of my mind for a time. I knew you were a huge fan of them, so obviously I expected you to send them at some point. And I really don’t mind some oddballs in my roulette too, because with the right song picked out, you may get me into some bands I wouldn’t give any serious consideration otherwise. In fact, that’s part of the reason you made it in the main competition with that A7X song… and now that decision of mine paid off.

        I suspect the metalheads and fogies and fogey-metalheads alike will be disappointed with me regarding this song, but I liked it a bloody lot and I can’t help it. This is just infectious to the point of ridiculousness. I’ve spent all these days starting from Monday humming the whole song quietly to myself. And what’s even better, the melodies are not infectious in annoying way, not at all – it’s rather they’re infectious in a “hell yeah” way. This song is a lot of fun, it’s playful and quirky, yet melodic and predictable enough. This was the most refreshing song of the round. Among all the rock and metal, this was one of the stand-outs.

        The intro is quite slow here and it’s what keeps this song from getting a 9.5, but when all the gears get into motion on 1:35, I’m pulled into the song and it’s like I’m watching a scene in the theater unfold. Amazing song and I thought I will be checking more of this band, until – in fact, it’s ironic considering how you properly introduced me to them – you left me no chance to buy the most acclaimed Acts 3 and 4 from Bizkit. Maybe later then, if at all. I’ve bought some Haken and PT albums instead.

        9/10

        bl5150: Teramaze – An Ordinary Dream (Enla Momento)


        So as I told you, I’ve heard the title track from this album before, and I wasn’t too impressed… but I guess the epic has slightly more potential to impress me than just an ordinary short title track. Because while this wasn’t a killer song in a way Dave’s tune was, this was much more impressive than Her Halo.

        I still think there’s something off with this band, and I can’t quite pinpoint what. I think it’s probably the production – they sound kind of muddy during the choruses – especially during the choruses – the singer sounds a bit unconvincing and it’s like, I don’t know, the sound is kind of layered? Because the other instruments sound just fine, and the vocal melodies themselves are fine too, it’s just the singer sounds somewhat unnatural and he’s got exactly the sound I tend to dislike in a lot of power metal bands.

        But this song totally redeems itself after the usual verse-chorus-verse-chorus routine. When it gets to the calm part, the singer does a few lines and they we get to that piano-fronted section with the samples… there are some songs where the spoken parts are my favourite parts of the whole composition – Song of Myself and When The Walls Go Down are good examples – and this one could’ve been on the verge of joining them. This voiceover is so short and yet so sad. But still, that stunning guitar solo that follows after takes the cake for being the best part of this song. That’s where this track begins to shine in earnest. And, well, when it gets more intense once again, the song suddenly sounds very fresh and exciting. Somehow, the guitar solo works wonders here, and of course the ending is quite impressive too. Chad really should’ve picked this one if he wanted a nine.

        9/10

        Dr. DTVT: Subsignal – Finisterre


        Songs like this make me glad you’re still participating in this roulette despite your overall business with your musical and whatnot. This is much better than your previous two entries from Orphaned Land and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum *shudder*.

        This reminds me of that Sieges Even song you’ve sent me in the very first round. True, it’s a bit darker in some calmer moments, but when this song comes alive in full force, it features the same happiness and just explodes with the flurry of keyboard notes, buzzes with that blissful, positive activity. The atmospheric instrumental break filled with some acoustic arpeggios is gorgeous too. It seems this is the kind of progressive music I somehow unconsciously tend to expect from you, not something I usually listen to, but also not too far from my comfort zone, and this time you delivered just fine. Not sure if it will help you in the long run, since you’re dead last and all – I remember that from the standings – but this is a great song.

        9/10

        TAC: Vision Divine – Mermaids From Their Moons


        You chose Iris Divine over this? I know, going with your heart instead of your head and all that, but this song is of the kind that should be a no-brainer in my roulette. You really should’ve sent this song earlier, could’ve gained you more of those points everyone seem to be so crazy about. But seeing how you’re still above the elimination line, I guess you know what you’re doing.

        As you said, this is a catchy power metal song, and it’s excellent at what it’s trying to achieve. The chorus is fantastic – that’s what I want from power metal song’s chorus, not the overblown “BEYOND! THE GATES!”; it’s melodic and it’s quite an earworm. It sounds even better in the intro, where they do a quiet acoustic version of it. The verses ain’t too shabby too. My only complaint is the pre-chorus, which seems kind of not so melodic with some of the notes they chose, but it’s small enough to warrant this song a fine score.

        8.5/10

        Big Hath: UFO – Love to Love (live)


        Hey Tim, here’s that fucker who sent UFO! :lol

        Well, seriously, this is a great call. You could’ve seen I have a soft spot for the music from 70s, and while of course modern albums prevailed in my Top 50, the 70s are still my favourite decade of music from the previous century. That wasn’t too obvious from my roulette, and it’s slightly more obvious from my banned list. I rated Journey – Of a Lifetime with 10 points in my previous roulette. I often end up liking the songs from 70s, and your song isn’t an exception.

        This is a wonderful rock song. I’m not sure if I can call it a ballad – it probably would’ve qualified for Round 2 with a stretch, so I will just call it a rock song. Some very soulful vocals and vocal melodies, wistful chorus: “Misty green and blue / Love to love to love you”. Gorgeous stuff. Besides the chorus, the highlights for me are the keyboards in the lengthy intro, and also the ripping guitar solo in the end. You said it wasn’t in the studio version – I didn’t have time to check it out, honestly – but this solo added at least half a point to your score.

        I wouldn’t say you’re precisely on fire, but if you don’t count that Odyssey song, you’re doing extremely well so far.

        8.5/10

        senecadawg2: The National – Slow Show


        You mentioned this to be another whiskey and cat piece, and hey, I agree, this fits that approach like a glove.

        This is a nice acoustic tune that gives me some Mark Knopfler-vibe musically, with the deep, almost speaking and not singing voice fronting the tune, but then the lyrics here are absolutely not Mark Knopfler-like, so this comparison only gets me that far. Still, this song has a lot of fantastic elements, such as the singer, the acoustic guitar and clarinet – I think it is clarinet and maybe some other unusual instruments too – and also the piano runs you mentioned in the second half of the tune. I know you said it’s your favourite out of the ones you sent, but I think I liked The Antlers tune just a bit more. Still, this is quite great and I’ll be checking out these guys, but as for the score, I think 8.5 is just right for this one.

        8.5/10

        lonestar: Prospekt – The Great Awakening


        You seem quite diverse in your entries this time around, because first you hit me with some excellent progressive metal, then you go with folk power metal, a rock song, an eclectic instrumental, and now back to the progressive metal I see. Well I don’t know if it’s any coincidence (hint: it probably isn’t), but it seems your vaults of progressive metal are where it’s at for me.

        Still, this song isn’t quite that amazing as My Soliloquy was. My main complaint about this song is the vocalist I guess, he sounds like he’s really straining to hit those high notes in the chorus, and while the instrumentation (which reminds me of djent on some points) and the vocal melodies are pretty much spot on, the singer makes it just a bit difficult to get into the song. Regarding the instrumental part, I do think the fast-paced part could be a bit trimmed before it all gets slow and Opeth-like. Damn, even the album cover looks a bit Opeth-like. The singer sounds much more confident and in control when he sings here, too. Overall, the calm part and the way they write it up right into the chorus are my favourite sections of this song. I wish the singer sounded more convincing, but still, this is a solid song.

        8/10

        jingle.boy: Consortium Project – Enemy Within


        You thought it would be refreshing among the sea of longer songs, but it didn’t happen really – I’ve got only two songs over ten minutes and another one clocking at almost ten minutes too – but that’s about it.

        But still, wow, without a doubt, this is by far the most intense song of the round. At some points I can’t help but acknowledge this might be just a bit too intense for me. The verses and pre-chorus are fine, but the chorus, when the mechanical sounding keyboards are kicking in, is too much for me. On the other hand, I like the aggressive vocals and I like the vibe of the song overall, it’s just it overdoes it just a tad. It’s like a train on the full-speed, it goes forward with such a momentum nothing is able to stop it. I wish this song had a few more minutes to add a bit more variety, but I guess that’s just the point of this tune – a constant, relentless, pounding heaviness. And that’s something I can enjoy in moderate doses.

        You’re actually getting a good score, but with how well other people scored in this round, this is probably going to be small consolation for you. I don’t know how the standings look like, but if it’s all bad for you – and I suspect it is – will you be going out with the bang or is it Animotion time?

        8/10

        wolfking: Cans – Beyond the Gates


        Well, this might’ve been a good entry in theory, but the thing is, I rarely listen to HammerFall these days, and I’m not even sure I can compare this one to their output now. But still, it was quite a good song.

        The best part here by far was the acoustic intro, and after that things started to go downhill. The verses were still quite fine – because they basically repeat the melody in the intro, and the chorus was where I started to question this song. That “BEYOND! THE GATES!” thing was mildly ridiculous and such an easy way out for the chorus ending, I found myself disliking it immensely. Overall, that’s some nice – if somewhat generic – power metal song where the quality of verses equalizes the chorus. This is good and maybe just slightly more than good, and that’s about it.

        8/10

        Tomislav95: Klone – Nebulous


        I can see you’re pretty obsessed with this band lately, sending different songs from them in various roulette, and while I can see why it can be appealing to someone, to me this is actually a bit like that Bon Iver entry, only a bit better. This has that relaxing atmosphere with the nice vocals. The singer isn’t trying to hit some incredible high or low notes, and just sings his soul out all the while sounding like he’s barely breaking a sweat here.

        And yet it still has that Bon Iver problem I described earlier. The vocal melodies are actually memorable this time – but this song is still, well, I don’t know. I can’t say it’s emotionless, because it clearly isn’t, but it just doesn’t click with me that much. It’s a nice relaxing listen, but it doesn’t evoke any strong feeling in me – and it’s a must for any song like this, otherwise the high score won’t be earned. The Antlers song from the previous round? Yes. The National song from this round? Yes. The Idol from Round 2? Fucking yes. This one? There is something, but that’s just not enough. Still a good song, and I feel I didn’t quite justify why it didn’t get a high score, but, well… I’m just not feeling it. It’s kind of like that Mayan Factor song in spirit too, only it’s less intense and more bland.

        7.5/10

        ErHaO: Beyond Twilight – Shadowland


        If I had to describe your game in this roulette, I would say “terribly inconsistent”. You didn’t get too many points in the first two rounds, and then you sent me two brilliant tunes with Suspyre and Lyriel, getting your well-deserved points, and now this. I’m not sure who’s frustrated more because of your choice for this round, me or you, but it’s definitely not your fellow competitors.

        Well, don’t get me wrong, this song has some redeeming qualities. I quite like the chorus, except it doesn’t really fit with the brooding, plodding nature of the verses. The pre-chorus is acceptable too, but the verses, well, they’re close to being unlistenable for me. I like Jorn, but I mostly can’t stand him in those slow-paced, heavy, plodding songs like he puts out on his solo records. It takes a good or great songwriting to make Jorn shine, and I’m not sure who wrote this one, wouldn’t be surprised if it was Jorn himself, but the verses are even worse than mediocre, they’re just bad as far as I’m concerned.

        As I said, there are some good parts in this tune, but nothing great, and the bad parts are quite bad indeed. Maybe Crying is a better song, but this one is definitely not something I can enjoy. I’m genuinely surprised – I didn’t think I could rate the song with Jorn at the mic that low. Even your Agnes Obel song was more enjoyable than this. Sorry.

        5.5/10

        Bands added to banned list:

        Edenbridge
        The Dear Hunter
        Teramaze
        Subsignal
        Vision Divine
        UFO
        The National
        Prospekt
        Consortium Project
        Cans
        Klone

        The scoreboard:

        wolfking - 44.5
        Big Hath - 43
        bl5150 - 42
        TAC - 42
        lonestar - 42


        Bolsters - 40.5
        senecadawg2 - 40.5

        (the cut-off line, will matter after Round 6)

        Train of Naught - 39.5
        jingle.boy - 39
        Tomislav95 - 39
        ErHaO - 37.5
        Dr. DTVT - 36.5
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2016, 01:26:58 PM
        Round 6: Female-fronted

        This round is pretty straightforward - you need to send me the female-fronted song. Here's the quote from the earlier pages of this thread:

        Quote
        The female vocalist in your song for female-fronted round has to be really prominent in the song. 50/50 male/female vocals won't do it for this round. Those were alright in my first roulette in "Two or more vocalists" round, but now I want some real female-fronted songs. Songs like piano version of Hymns for the Broken (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bid7TujIgjA) or like the one I've sent in the most recent round of Championship roulette (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDuAPhHBbuk) won't qualify for this round.

        However, something like Kamelot - Center of the Universe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wRreoNRGwk) - if you swap male and female vocal sections - qualifies. I don't mind having some male vocals on the song for this round, but it has to be either a small enough part or the backing vocals. Most of the vocals should be female.

        This is also the last round for six of you. I'll be writing the short paragraphs in the next round write-ups for those who won't make the cut, but I already want to say it's been a pleasure. Each and every participant introduced me to some awesome bands / songs in this roulette. If you didn't make the cut, well, who can blame you? The competition here is fierce as hell. Anyway, we'll talk about it later, and now it's time to play in the Round 6.

        The time-limit for this round is 10 minutes.

        Send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 24, 2016, 01:51:19 PM
        In any other roulette 7,5 would probably be very good score but this is relatively not so good :lol
        Believe it or not, I've been thinking about what to send in this round from early rounds, and I'm still not sure :-\ I don't really have many options and those I have are so different from each other I don't know what to pick.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 24, 2016, 01:52:26 PM
        I should probably listen to the song bolsters sent so I can get a better grasp on his metal preferences I guess :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2016, 01:54:00 PM
        In any other roulette 7,5 would probably be very good score but this is relatively not so good :lol

        You know, I'm actually surprised at how many great scores I'm giving. It wasn't like that in my first roulette, and I certainly didn't suddenly become more tolerant towards the music I don't like. So I blame it all on the stellar cast of players here. The invite system and the qualifiers provided me with the players best suited to my tastes, hence lots of great songs and scores.

        I should probably listen to the song bolsters sent so I can get a better grasp on his metal preferences I guess :lol

        Brace yourself, its length is 15:26. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 24, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
        I mean that's not super long by prog standards and it's less than listening to an entire album  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 24, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
        (https://24.media.tumblr.com/5a98e20abdb5a4be7db498fa5068576c/tumblr_miktj5sYeD1s2yegdo1_400.gif)

        Too bad it wasn't as much of a surprise because of the whole Bizkit thing, but still nice, glad you liked it.

        Normally I would say: Start with Act 3>4  :lol sorry for that, I've been wanting to get these for a long ass time and I had already been PMing with the biz about buying some of his albums months ago, I can offer you my copy of Quiet World if you like? €20,-
        I've been thinking about A7X aswell and like you said before in the thread, it's better to have an artist of which you can delve into all their stuff, and I've come to the conclusion that you'll be incredibly disappointed if you checked them out.

        but when all the gears get into motion on 1:35, I’m pulled into the song and it’s like I’m watching a scene in the theater unfold.
        My exact thoughts on this song.


        Believe it or not, I've been thinking about what to send in this round from early rounds, and I'm still not sure :-\ I don't really have many options and those I have are so different from each other I don't know what to pick.
        This. I think I almost have it figured out though, will send soon, maybe tomorrow if things get busy.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 24, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
        Sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 24, 2016, 03:01:04 PM
        Sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 24, 2016, 03:17:18 PM
        Glad you enjoyed the song!  :tup

        Two rounds in a row now where I've been tied on that cut-off line. Hopefully I'll secure that final spot; now, to find a suitable female-fronted song.......
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2016, 04:10:53 PM
        Oh well.  Had a feeling I wasn't gonna make it thru right from the start.  Gonna send an oldie but goldie.  I guaran-damn-tee it will be the shortest song not only of the round, but of the entire roulette.... but possibly the most epic.  RJ'll know what song based on that one - time too perhaps.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 24, 2016, 05:21:58 PM
        Hath, WTF??.

        Did you not read the DTF Roulette Rulebook?
        Let me refresh your memory!
        Quote from: DTF Rulebook
        Rule 9.22-In any Roulette of which TAC is participating in, all other participants of said Roulette, shall refrain from sending UFO and/or Alice Cooper.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Sacul on March 24, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
        ...like you said before in the thread, it's better to have an artist of which you can delve into all their stuff...
        Yeah, this is a very interesting point, and one that I agree with.

        I hope you don't forget to check those Marketa Irglova and Sufjan Stevens albums after this ends, Ev  :smiley:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 24, 2016, 05:47:49 PM
        there are cases of specific songs being good enough that they're worth sharing even if the rest of the artist's work isn't as good, imo, but yeah as a general rule I try to send great songs from artists with many great songs
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 24, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
        Oh well.  Had a feeling I wasn't gonna make it thru right from the start.  Gonna send an oldie but goldie.  I guaran-damn-tee it will be the shortest song not only of the round, but of the entire roulette.... but possibly the most epic.  RJ'll know what song based on that one - time too perhaps.

        I got an idea.

        Seems I may make the cutoff, but am pretty much out of the running for the finale unless I take some chances and score big. Got some ideas, but let's see how going old school works for me first. Sent.....
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 07:02:02 PM
        I'm coming for you Kade........ :hat

        So far the 2 rounds where I thought I was taking a bit of a risk have been a total failure.  Let's see if I can make it 3/3.  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 07:14:19 PM
        I'm coming for you Kade........ :hat

        So far the 2 rounds where I thought I was taking a bit of a risk have been a total failure.  Let's see if I can make it 3/3.  ;D

        Yeah, still got an 8 but the gap is closing, always the way though.  I'm sending the first song I thought of.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 07:29:55 PM
        Okay, I've sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 24, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
        Hath, WTF??.

        Did you not read the DTF Roulette Rulebook?
        Let me refresh your memory!
        Quote from: DTF Rulebook
        Rule 9.22-In any Roulette of which TAC is participating in, all other participants of said Roulette, shall refrain from sending UFO and/or Alice Cooper.

         :lol

        you've had at least THREE ROUNDS to send UFO so far.  Now they are going to take away your fan badge.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2016, 08:29:32 PM
        Oh well.  Had a feeling I wasn't gonna make it thru right from the start.  Gonna send an oldie but goldie.  I guaran-damn-tee it will be the shortest song not only of the round, but of the entire roulette.... but possibly the most epic.  RJ'll know what song based on that one - time too perhaps.

        I got an idea.

        You better... being local to you and all.  I'm not going out with an Animotion bang, that's for sure.  I coulda sent Chaka Khan, but I didn't.

        Good writeups again, and totally fair with Enemy Within.  I shoulda gone 10+ minutes... had a great prog tune in mind.  Gonna have to check those Edenbridge and Prospekt tunes. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 08:40:44 PM
        Can I send some Mark Free?  :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 24, 2016, 08:48:33 PM
        Yeah, I was reasonably certain this song would get at least 9.5 from you, if not a perfect 10. I was also reasonably confident no one else would think to send Edenbridge and that I wouldn't be cockblocked, so I was saving them for the EP round. But it's a waste of a great band/song if I get eliminated before I get a chance to send them and I needed a great score or two to avoid it. I'll just have to wing it in the EP round now, if I make it through, but chances are I still won't.

        Edit: The line you are referring to is it's not Venus, it's not Mars. :lol

        Anyway, sending the next round's song momentarily.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
        Sent
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 24, 2016, 09:46:38 PM
        okay, i listened to that edenbridge song
        not exactly in love with it or anything but it's definitely pretty solid, would probably grow on me in relistens if i gave it any
        i can absolutely see how evermind would love it though
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 24, 2016, 10:04:07 PM
        Oh well.  Had a feeling I wasn't gonna make it thru right from the start.  Gonna send an oldie but goldie.  I guaran-damn-tee it will be the shortest song not only of the round, but of the entire roulette.... but possibly the most epic.  RJ'll know what song based on that one - time too perhaps.

        I got an idea.

        You better... being local to you and all. 

        OK, now I don't have an idea anymore.  :justjen
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 25, 2016, 11:48:15 AM
        ...like you said before in the thread, it's better to have an artist of which you can delve into all their stuff...
        Yeah, this is a very interesting point, and one that I agree with.

        I hope you don't forget to check those Marketa Irglova and Sufjan Stevens albums after this ends, Ev  :smiley:

        Maybe. They will be somewhere in the middle of my priority list. I'll have to create one when this roulette is done.

        I'm going to sort through the PMs now, but it seems I already have 10 songs in. Guess who hasn't sent yet. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 25, 2016, 12:18:27 PM
        Wow, that pace!

        So results tomorrow?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 25, 2016, 12:38:37 PM
        (https://media.giphy.com/media/HQRgg6ks7nkyY/giphy.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 25, 2016, 02:54:01 PM
        Let's break this round down:  By limiting it to female fronted songs anywhere between 80-90% of anyone's catalog is eliminated.  That still leaves some options, except...

        Most of those remaining songs/bands are already banned because he has them.  That leaves me to select from the following categories:

        Bands I like, but I know Evermind won't.  That's a waste.
        Bands that I have because I own a lot of albums, but I don't think too much of.  Factory of Dreams?  I think not.
        Female artists I don't have but I'm aware of.  Heart - sure.  Hole - lol.
        A band I like a good bit, but it would be a complete dick move to send because I'm pretty sure the number of copies of the album doesn't exceed 100, and I don't think it's on any listening service.  If anyone guesses this one, you will win two internets.

        I'll probably go with the last one.  But I still mind send Courtney Love.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
        Let's break this round down:  By limiting it to female fronted songs anywhere between 80-90% of anyone's catalog is eliminated.  That still leaves some options, except...

        Most of those remaining songs/bands are already banned because he has them.  That leaves me to select from the following categories:

        Bands I like, but I know Evermind won't.  That's a waste.
        Bands that I have because I own a lot of albums, but I don't think too much of.  Factory of Dreams?  I think not.
        Female artists I don't have but I'm aware of.  Heart - sure.  Hole - lol.
        A band I like a good bit, but it would be a complete dick move to send because I'm pretty sure the number of copies of the album doesn't exceed 100, and I don't think it's on any listening service.  If anyone guesses this one, you will win two internets.

        I'll probably go with the last one.  But I still mind send Courtney Love.

        The first Hole album is excellent and I even considered them for this round. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 25, 2016, 02:56:41 PM
        Someone actually asked me about sending Courtney Love.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 02:57:15 PM
        Someone actually asked me about sending Courtney Love.

        Yup. See above post!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Luoto on March 25, 2016, 03:01:31 PM
        I know at least two bands that I could see being sent in this round. We'll see.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 03:03:19 PM
        One of the greatest albums ever made!

        (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Eat_to.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
        Let's break this round down:  By limiting it to female fronted songs anywhere between 80-90% of anyone's catalog is eliminated.  That still leaves some options, except...

        Most of those remaining songs/bands are already banned because he has them.  That leaves me to select from the following categories:

        Bands I like, but I know Evermind won't.  That's a waste.
        Bands that I have because I own a lot of albums, but I don't think too much of.  Factory of Dreams?  I think not.
        Female artists I don't have but I'm aware of.  Heart - sure.  Hole - lol.
        A band I like a good bit, but it would be a complete dick move to send because I'm pretty sure the number of copies of the album doesn't exceed 100, and I don't think it's on any listening service.  If anyone guesses this one, you will win two internets.

        I'll probably go with the last one.  But I still mind send Courtney Love.

        Reported - sexist post.   :D

        You don't listen to enough chick vocalists.  I had a dozen or I was choosing from, and another dozen or so (which I actually submitted) that I could've gone to if I wanted to go old-school.

        Lol Factory of Dreams - despite Magi doing a guest spot with them... even she couldn't save that shit-show.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 25, 2016, 03:48:37 PM

        The first Hole album is excellent and I even considered them for this round.

        I agree, it Hole rhymed with lol, so I went with it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 25, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
        Just need Casper to send his song and we're good to go.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 05:39:11 PM

        So far the 2 rounds where I thought I was taking a bit of a risk have been a total failure.  Let's see if I can make it 3/3.  ;D

        Well the host's feedback on my song description......................."disturbing"  :rollin 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: splent on March 25, 2016, 07:46:20 PM
        I wish I were still in this roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 08:21:33 PM
        One of the greatest albums ever made!

        (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Eat_to.jpg)

        Hmm...............Eat 'Em and Smile or Eat The Beat.............tough choice  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 26, 2016, 02:34:43 AM
        I wish I were still in this roulette.

        Six more people are probably going to share this sentiment after this round.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 26, 2016, 06:51:05 AM
        One of the greatest albums ever made!

        (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Eat_to.jpg)

        Hmm...............Eat 'Em and Smile or Eat The Beat.............tough choice  ;D
        Not for me! ;D

        And while I do think EEAS is very good, I have to admit that I have never been a fan of Vai's sound. Even at the time. He's a great showman and the tour was amazing, but his sound just sounds so unnatural. Almost technologically generated.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 26, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
        Sorry for the late reply! Had a deadline yesterday and a concert (Van Canto and Grailknights).

        Anyways, nooooooooooo. Dammnit Ruslan, visiting DTF was supposed to be a little moment of joy after finding out the latest Batman film (and that other guy, I guess) is a big. steaming. pile. of bat feces  :sadpanda: :( :'( Thats it, I am sending you Kittie!

        But yeah, I know this artist is quite divise, too bad you didn't enjoy it. I absolutely love it myself, but I think you should definitely stay clear from the album. I guess my overall mistake is/was relying on my own tastes too much, rather than considering your favourite songs/albums a bit better beforehand to determine the overlap more specifically. That, and maybe practicing singing Rihanna songs for a few weeks ruined me. In fact, maybe that's just it  :lol (disclaimer: not my choice, the girls wanted to sing those!).

        I will send my song tonight, let's see if I can go out with honor  ;D (or maybe it will be the worst round ever, with my song as the sole redeeming factor, which I somehow doubt  :P)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 26, 2016, 04:04:14 PM
        Well, sorry about that. But yeah, this song just didn't do it for me at all. Looking forward to your probably last song!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 27, 2016, 04:32:27 AM
        Now that I've got everyone, here's the first blurred picture! Let's see if you can make out anything. Don't use Google or Spotify if you can, otherwise some of these are a little easy.

        (https://i.imgur.com/Ow6ZjQy.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 27, 2016, 04:42:29 AM
        Floor Jansen and some Orchestra doing Final Fantasy? I'll have to Google that one, sounds interesting.

        Edit: and it's Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles...love that soundtrack. :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 27, 2016, 04:43:38 AM
        Kay, not using the spotifies this time.

        The 10th: Caligula's Box? Is that a thing? Maybe Pandora's Box, it's definitely someone's box though.

        First: Tori Amos - Wither? I don't know her songs except for the one I got in my roulette but I've seen her name around here numerous times.

        11th: Floor ... and the ... I think at the end of the title it says (Final Fantasy cover) or something EDIT: Ninja'd on that one

        6th: Drowning Serens?

        I tried.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 27, 2016, 04:48:02 AM
        Looks like Drowning in Serenity to me. No idea on the artist though.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2016, 04:51:45 AM
        Mine's the 8th one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2016, 04:52:10 AM
        Bolsters: Pandora's Box - It Just Won't Quit  ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 27, 2016, 04:53:34 AM
        Bolsters: Pandora's Box - It Just Won't Quit  ;)
        I was wondering if you'd remember that or not.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2016, 04:53:42 AM
        Mine's the 8th one.

        Beautiful Sin - This Is Not The original Dream

        Who got you into them?  I was expecting Chad to send that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2016, 05:01:19 AM
        Mine's the 8th one.

        Beautiful Sin - This Is Not The original Dream

        Who got you into them?  I was expecting Chad to send that.

        Just remember seeing the cd randoming in store around the time of release.  Saw the sticker on the front pimping Uli Kusch and Jorn Viggo so was a blind instant purchase because of that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2016, 05:02:19 AM
        Nice - they were up there in my calcs too , but decided to go for something a bit different.

        I love Magali's voice.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2016, 05:04:14 AM
        Nice - they were up there in my calcs too , but decided to go for something a bit different.

        I love Magali's voice.

        She's one of the only female voices I really enjoy as much as male vox, might be my fav female vocalist.  Just never took to female vox all that much.

        Trillium was my other option, dunno if they are in there, but Amanda is great too. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2016, 05:07:24 AM
        She does a nice version of Tears of the Dragon if you haven't heard it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2016, 05:11:29 AM
        She does a nice version of Tears of the Dragon if you haven't heard it.

        No I haven't.  Could imagine it would be killer indeed.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2016, 05:30:57 AM
        Nice - they were up there in my calcs too , but decided to go for something a bit different.

        I love Magali's voice.

        She's one of the only female voices I really enjoy as much as male vox, might be my fav female vocalist.  Just never took to female vox all that much.

        You know Ida Haukland (one of the female's on Fantasmagoria)?  Triosphere lead singer/bassist?  She's right up there as a "metal" female voice.  If you don't know them, no peaking.

        BTW, I see mine and RJ's there - but that's all.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 27, 2016, 05:43:25 AM
        Looks like Drowning in Serenity to me. No idea on the artist though.
        Had a brain fart...but I remembered that it's Fanticide.

        Second one looks like it might be Seven Kingdoms - After The Fall?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on March 27, 2016, 06:17:29 AM
        Now that I've got everyone, here's the first blurred picture! Let's see if you can make out anything. Don't use Google or Spotify if you can, otherwise some of these are a little easy.

        (https://i.imgur.com/Ow6ZjQy.jpg)

        Kinda easy? I can't even make out mine! :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 27, 2016, 06:21:22 AM
        Well, mine only consists of 9 letters, of which 4 are pretty visible, should be do-able? Admittedly, I don't expect anyone to know this band, bandcamp is one hell of a drug.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 27, 2016, 06:23:51 AM
        Kinda easy? I can't even make out mine! :D

        :lol

        Well I was mostly referring to Floor Jansen entry. Still, four songs have been guessed already and ToN was close with Tori Amos song name too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: lonestar on March 27, 2016, 06:34:49 AM
        Nice - they were up there in my calcs too , but decided to go for something a bit different.

        I love Magali's voice.

        She's one of the only female voices I really enjoy as much as male vox, might be my fav female vocalist.  Just never took to female vox all that much.

        You know Ida Haukland (one of the female's on Fantasmagoria)?  Triosphere lead singer/bassist?  She's right up there as a "metal" female voice.  If you don't know them, no peaking.

        BTW, I see mine and RJ's there - but that's all.

        Yup, and I realized I sent the wrong song.  :lol

        Oh well, it's a good one too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 27, 2016, 10:48:10 AM
        Wait,  what, Floor Jansen and Final Fantasy? How have I never heard of that?! (I even listen to FF soundtracks of entries I have never played).

        Second one is mine, I have no idea if they are well known to the degree these bands are well known.

        Edit: Bolsters guessed it!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on March 27, 2016, 12:23:49 PM
        Wait,  what, Floor Jansen and Final Fantasy? How have I never heard of that?! (I even listen to FF soundtracks of entries I have never played).

        Well, apparently it's not that well-known at all. I thought I covered all Floor Jansen-related projects in my banned list. :lol

        Alright then, I'm few listens in and this is - surprisingly - definitely not the strongest round. No bad songs of course, but most of them are either on the alright side or good but not great side. There are some standouts though, two songs in particular are just amazing. That's all I will ever say about the songs in this round until the results, no more spoilers regarding my thoughts on your entries. Well, except the tidbits.

        Second picture will be up tomorrow evening, tidbits Tuesday evening, results most probably Wednesday evening.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on March 27, 2016, 05:00:21 PM
        I knew I should've sent the faster paced track!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2016, 05:16:15 PM
        Nice - they were up there in my calcs too , but decided to go for something a bit different.

        I love Magali's voice.

        She's one of the only female voices I really enjoy as much as male vox, might be my fav female vocalist.  Just never took to female vox all that much.

        You know Ida Haukland (one of the female's on Fantasmagoria)?  Triosphere lead singer/bassist?  She's right up there as a "metal" female voice.  If you don't know them, no peaking.

        BTW, I see mine and RJ's there - but that's all.

        Don't know her, but yeah, like her on Fantasmagoria.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 28, 2016, 10:12:03 AM
        No bad songs of course, but most of them are either on the alright side or good but not great side.
        Nice. So lots of 6's then
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2016, 10:39:02 AM
        Alright then, I'm few listens in and this is - surprisingly - definitely not the strongest round. No bad songs of course, but most of them are either on the alright side or good but not great side. There are some standouts though, two songs in particular are just amazing.

        Well... if by some miraculous act of God I landed a 'standout', there may be hope yet!

        Never deprive a man of hope - it might be all he has.   :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 28, 2016, 10:42:10 AM
        No spoilers from me, sorry guys. But have this second blurred pic. All the guessed songs are clear.

        (https://i.imgur.com/siZIDmM.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Elite on March 28, 2016, 10:44:52 AM
        I see White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 28, 2016, 10:45:08 AM
        Alright, found one more I think:

        Forgotten Tales - Born to Win

        also, less certain on this one, but:

        Daughter - Ladyfall
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 28, 2016, 10:47:09 AM
        Alright, found one more I think:

        Forgotten Tales - Born to Win

        also, less certain on this one, but:

        Daughter - Ladyfall

        See, it's much more fun without Spotify because you're getting all the song names wrong. :lol

        Born to Win is a cool name for a power metal song though!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 28, 2016, 10:59:13 AM
        Yeah I suck at this :lol, it's definitely more fun without looking them up though.

        Broken Wings? That's a bummer, Born to Win is such a cool high energy power metal title, whereas Broken Wings sounds like a metal ballad or something.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Elite on March 28, 2016, 11:00:24 AM
        "Ladyfall" :lol

        Should be Landfill, but I'm just guessing. I don't know the band.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on March 28, 2016, 11:05:07 AM
        Broken Wings? That's a bummer, Born to Win is such a cool high energy power metal title, whereas Broken Wings sounds like a metal ballad or something.

        Yeah, and then there's that:

        I knew I should've sent the faster paced track!

        Apparently I was going to get Born to Win but ended up getting Broken Wings instead. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 28, 2016, 11:34:58 AM
        "Ladyfall" :lol

        Should be Landfill, but I'm just guessing. I don't know the band.
        Correct :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
        I know who sent MeatLoaf ... I mean, Pandora's Box.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 28, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
        Broken Wings? That's a bummer, Born to Win is such a cool high energy power metal title, whereas Broken Wings sounds like a metal ballad or something.

        Yeah, and then there's that:

        I knew I should've sent the faster paced track!

        Apparently I was going to get Born to Win but ended up getting Broken Wings instead. :lol

        Well played. Just not by me.. :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 01:58:43 PM
        No one sent Issa?  What a shame.  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2016, 02:26:27 PM
        Bolsters: Pandora's Box - It Just Won't Quit  ;)

        I know who sent MeatLoaf ... I mean, Pandora's Box.

        (https://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/002/658/cptobvious.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Things are gonna change so fast (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
        Bolsters: Pandora's Box - It Just Won't Quit  ;)

        I know who sent MeatLoaf ... I mean, Pandora's Box.

        (https://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/002/658/cptobvious.jpg)

        (https://replygif.net/i/1030.gif)

        Missed that first post. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on March 28, 2016, 04:02:57 PM
         :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 29, 2016, 08:50:53 AM
        my guesses on the rest

        Terracotta Isles - Pelican Wing  :lol
        Elite got this one
        my song
        Indea - Algae
        Heart - Barracuda
        Elite got this one, too
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 29, 2016, 08:55:12 AM
        The first one is Forgotten Tales - Broken Wings

        You're not far off on Indea - Algae but neither the song nor the band is 100% correct
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Is this a blessing or is it a curse? (Pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 29, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
        I think they should have named it Pelican Wing
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 29, 2016, 11:42:50 AM
        I think they should have named it Pelican Wing

        :lol Terracota Isles wasn't too bad!

        Here are the full picture and the tidbits:

        (https://i.imgur.com/WTEWuuh.jpg)

        It’s no secret I paid a lot of attention to the vocals this time, like I did in another vocal-related round in my first roulette, and frankly, this song has been somewhat of a disappointment in this regard. There are a lot of moments where I felt the vocals just don’t fit the song.

        This is kind of a blend between power metal and some melodic rock I guess, and I found it lacks some edge and probably some heaviness too, kind of like The Chronicles Project song I’ve got earlier. And I wasn’t even sure the vocals were female at times.

        I like how the ballads in this round divided into happy ones and the sad / bitter ones, and all of them are of roughly the same quality. Makes it a good contrast. Yours is among the former and maybe I like it just a bit more than the others. The last few listens will tell, but this is going to be difficult.

        I like how song starts with intense and pronounced power metal sound – and it’s a perfect transition from the ballad that preceded it on the playlist. At first I thought it was one excellent progressive song, but turns out it’s actually two different tunes with only one of them being excellent.

        This song has very inspiring and pleasant lyrics.
        “I want you so much, but I hate your guts”? Nice.

        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.

        Did that song really need to feature that death metal growl?


        Results tomorrow evening.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 29, 2016, 11:45:52 AM
        uh oh
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 11:47:47 AM
        can't see anything there that would be mine
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 29, 2016, 11:54:05 AM
        Did that song really need to feature that death metal growl?


         :lol :lol

        It was one second! I should've just cut it out. But yeah, to be fair, if you're talking about my song, that's pretty damn random and I wish they didn't include it. I hope your thoughts on the rest of the song are a bit more in depth :lol

        ..I screwed up guys
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 29, 2016, 11:56:35 AM
        Here's my full write-up for this tidbit:

        Going with Sacul's approach for this one. This is awful. Did that song really need to feature that death metal growl?

        3/10


        :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 29, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
        It's like someone serves you a nice meal, then you sniff it like a fucking dog and leave the room :lol

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 29, 2016, 12:01:24 PM
        "This song has very inspiring and pleasant lyrics. “I want you so much, but I hate your guts”? Nice."
        Beautiful, indeed :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2016, 12:05:30 PM
        So, I only know four of the songs on the list, so the tidbits have to fit something.

        This is kind of a blend between power metal and some melodic rock I guess, and I found it lacks some edge and probably some heaviness too, kind of like The Chronicles Project song I’ve got earlier. And I wasn’t even sure the vocals were female at times.

        Sorry Kade, I think this is Beautiful Sin.  Maggi is great, but she does sometimes sound a little 'butch'.

        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.

        I'm gonna guess me or RJ.  Hard to tell, because Barracuda isn't "slow-paced", but I wouldn't call White Rabbit "heavy"

        These 'themed' rounds seem to be not working out so well for anyone - which means they aren't working out for Ruslan either.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Crow on March 29, 2016, 12:06:20 PM
        heck yeah someone sent growls to evermind and it wasn't me  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 29, 2016, 12:12:32 PM
        These 'themed' rounds seem to be not working out so well for anyone - which means they aren't working out for Ruslan either.

        No, I thought the ballads round was awesome — it's the round I keep coming back the most — and the weird-instrument round was mostly good / great with the few exceptions (Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, anyone?). This is probably the first one I'm not too fond of.

        It's like someone serves you a nice meal, then you sniff it like a fucking dog and leave the room :lol

        That would fit if I stopped listening after that growl and never came back to your song again. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 29, 2016, 12:18:39 PM
        Yeah I know, was talking about the fake writeup.

        heck yeah someone sent growls to evermind and it wasn't me  :lol

        Well I already sent Native Construct - Mute so it's not a first.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Crow on March 29, 2016, 12:43:16 PM
        yeah but you sent that in a qualifier round you didn't even need to participate in
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 29, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
        I like how song starts with intense and pronounced power metal sound – and it’s a perfect transition from the ballad that preceded it on the playlist. At first I thought it was one excellent progressive song, but turns out it’s actually two different tunes with only one of them being excellent.

        This could be mine (I honestly do not know many of the songs/artists this round, though).  Given all ballads are roughly the same quality, that may be an indication of the power metal part being the excellent part. Here's hoping I go out in style, after my fall  :metal :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 29, 2016, 12:58:22 PM
        yeah but you sent that in a qualifier round you didn't even need to participate in
        Fair enough. If the tidbit is about my song though, it's like 1 second and wouldn't even be noticable if it wasn't put in as random as it is here (it's the Ignea song, around the 5 minute mark). I wouldn't dare to really go harsh vocals in this roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: splent on March 29, 2016, 02:00:28 PM
        Whoever submitted Winter wins.

        Tori is banned whenever I do my roulette... That song is powerful for me. Saw her do it live and she started crying in the middle of it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.

        Without question..mine. Hopefully I stay in the Top 6!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 02:54:19 PM
        So, I only know four of the songs on the list, so the tidbits have to fit something.

        This is kind of a blend between power metal and some melodic rock I guess, and I found it lacks some edge and probably some heaviness too, kind of like The Chronicles Project song I’ve got earlier. And I wasn’t even sure the vocals were female at times.

        Sorry Kade, I think this is Beautiful Sin.  Maggi is great, but she does sometimes sound a little 'butch'.

        Yeah, I first thought that too.  I was confident with my submission, but oh well, looks like the gap between me and everyone else might become non existent, if this is the case.  I love the song and album so, no regrets if it is mine.  I would never doubt Maggi isn't a female singing though.

        Saying that it could be Fanticide from what I've heard maybe.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 02:58:13 PM
        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.

        Without question..mine. Hopefully I stay in the Top 6!

        Avatarium?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.

        Without question..mine. Hopefully I stay in the Top 6!

        Avatarium?

        Forgotten Tales. They are awesome and I described them to Ruslan as Kiske Era Helloween with great female vocals. I was so torn between two songs. The one I sent, which is mid tempo, but I prefer the term groovy  ;D, and has a great chorus, and another song that was a bit faster paced, but I didn't think the chorus was as strong. Must've listened to each 20 times.
        Oh well.. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 29, 2016, 03:09:15 PM
        I'll be surprised if anyone else's song had parts as heavy/plodding as mine.  Of course that is how it is supposed to be, but whatevs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
        I'll be surprised if anyone else's song had parts as heavy/plodding as mine.  Of course that is how it is supposed to be, but whatevs.

        Your's is Avatarium then?

        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.

        Without question..mine. Hopefully I stay in the Top 6!

        Avatarium?

        Forgotten Tales. They are awesome and I described them to Ruslan as Kiske Era Helloween with great female vocals. I was so torn between two songs. The one I sent, which is mid tempo, but I prefer the term groovy  ;D, and has a great chorus, and another song that was a bit faster paced, but I didn't think the chorus was as strong. Must've listened to each 20 times.
        Oh well.. 

        Sounds solid.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 03:12:53 PM
        Tell that to Evermind! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 29, 2016, 03:14:20 PM
        I'll be surprised if anyone else's song had parts as heavy/plodding as mine.  Of course that is how it is supposed to be, but whatevs.

        Your's is Avatarium then?

        yep
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: ErHaO on March 29, 2016, 03:18:08 PM
        Gave some songs a spin. To me, the plodding description suits Avatarium the best, because of the word "parts". Forgotten Tales songs plods troughout the entire song (in terms of riffing). And to my ears, the Beatiful Sin song doesn't lack an edge or heavyness, though I can hear the male vocals thing. However, I also think several other songs have parts where the singer almost sounds like a male, to some extent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2016, 03:23:50 PM
        Maggi's french accent (which does come through at times) doesn't help her metal singing style sound feminine.  Perhaps part of the reason I love her so much??  Dunno, but her voice gives me a boner.

        That album is top-shelf material too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 03:25:09 PM
        Who is Maggi and what band are we talking about?

        And who is Issa??
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 29, 2016, 03:25:31 PM
        Whoever submitted Winter wins.

        Tori is banned whenever I do my roulette... That song is powerful for me. Saw her do it live and she started crying in the middle of it.

         :tup :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Sacul on March 29, 2016, 03:34:41 PM
        Here's my full write-up for this tidbit:

        Going with Sacul's approach for this one. This is awful. Did that song really need to feature that death metal growl?

        3/10


        :lol
        I approve of this  :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
        Maggi's french accent (which does come through at times) doesn't help her metal singing style sound feminine.  Perhaps part of the reason I love her so much??  Dunno, but her voice gives me a boner.

        That album is top-shelf material too.

        I think she is just super unique in terms of most female vocalists, and she's very strong too.


        Who is Maggi and what band are we talking about?

        And who is Issa??

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magali_Luyten

        The song I sent was from the band Beautiful Sin.

        Issa is just a terrible and ugly Frontiers pop vocalist, with no talent or substance.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 04:40:44 PM
         :lol   Kade fondly refers to her as "that Issa bitch".   Make sure to get your Issa gif for Kade's roulette   :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
        Issa to me I guess is like Kip is to Tim.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 05:07:40 PM
        Issa to me I guess is like Kip is to Tim.  :lol

        He's nothing to me. Now stop it! :lol

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
         
        and she's very strong too.



        Now Ruslan thinks she's even more blokey  ;D

        And uh - Wednesday is 10 hours old :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 05:10:15 PM
        and she's very strong too.



        Now Ruslan thinks she's even more blokey  ;D

        And uh - Wednesday is 10 hours old :D

        I can see the more butch side of her singing, but as I said, I wouldn't think it was ever a dude singing.  She's great with Ayreon too.  I wish she did more work.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 05:12:47 PM
        It's okay mate - I was reading it more literally on purpose.  ;)



        (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2f/3b/b1/2f3bb1aac13138ff8d9e24728933ea3a.jpg)


        I really enjoy her voice , probably because she is "very strong" :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 05:16:21 PM
        Oh  :facepalm: :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
        Issa to me I guess is like Kip is to Tim.  :lol

        Does that mean we can have an Issa round ?   :xbones
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2016, 07:17:11 PM


        I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding parts of the song, but in terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is among the best tracks of the round.



        I'm gonna guess this is mine, I'd put Annie Wilson up against any other female voice out there, then or today. Her version of Stairway to Heaven at the Kennedy Center awards is god tier stuff.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
        I would struggle to name 10 female rock/metal vocalists whose voices have really appealed to me or impressed me over the years but Anne Wilson would be in that list for sure , and right up there.    Heart seem to really release some rubbish at times but her voice is always  :hefdaddy
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 29, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
        Who sent Heart?  I almost tried to send that song, but decided to go a different route.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
        I can see the more butch side of her singing, but as I said, I wouldn't think it was ever a dude singing.  She's great with Ayreon too.  I wish she did more work.

        You and me (and RJ) both.  Check out her fulfilling the female vocal duties for Old Man and the Spirit when Beyond The Bridge was touring on Youtube.  There's a lot of awesome versions of World of Wonders out there.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2016, 10:23:55 PM
        Who sent Heart?  I almost tried to send that song, but decided to go a different route.

        Me, had a few other unknown females, as well as being tempted to send Beautiful Sin, but thought I'd take another opportunity to introduce someone to some good old classic American rock.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 29, 2016, 10:26:39 PM
        and she's very strong too.



        Now Ruslan thinks she's even more blokey  ;D

        And uh - Wednesday is 10 hours old :D

        :lol

        I'm a bit surprised by the amount of second guessing the tidbits caused.

        Anyway, it's only 7 A.M. here, so the results won't be here any time soon. Probably in ~15 hours or so.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on March 30, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
         :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
        Just got back home from work. We're on the usual schedule, I'm going to grab something to eat and start doing the write-ups then. 4-5 hours from now on.

        I've listened to your songs all day at work today, and I've found a few songs have grown on me quite a lot. This round could be not that mediocre after all.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 09:34:02 AM
          and I've found a few songs have grown on me quite a lot. 
        pleasebemepleasebemepleasebeme grovellgrovellgrovell

         :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
        I think the emot you're looking for is :lucien:

        I'm finding that 1st impressions of music (especially when unimpressed) can improve with multiple listens - especially when you WANT to like the music.  Take The Astonishing for example... it's growing on me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 30, 2016, 11:03:53 AM
        Oh god. Those of us who needed a great advantage this round will likely not be pleased then. First we could hope to be one of the 2 standouts, but maybe even that won't cut it anymore.

        I don't have any delusions of making it past this round, IMO one of my weaker songs. This roulette has been fun so far though :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Watching you falling, helpless (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
        I think the emot you're looking for is :lucien:

        Yes, that is the one!

          Take The Astonishing for example... it's growing on me.

        The Astonishing is awesome!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 01:30:41 PM
        Right, here we go. I had to eliminate some people. No hard feelings.

        Round 6 Results:

        Big Hath: Avatarium – Moonhorse

        You seemed to be so sure about this song, even going as far as claiming you wanted to send this song back there when we played Round 1. Well, seeing that you won this round, who can blame you?

        Now, there are some things about this tune I wasn’t fond of. I mostly didn’t like the heavy, slow-paced, plodding instrumental parts of the song – the one in the beginning and the one after the first vox part. I know that’s how this song is supposed to be, but it doesn’t mean I should instantly like it. Djent is supposed to be those heavy weird rhythms and I mostly can’t stand it. But that’s a minor drawback – even though it kept you from receiving a higher score – of an otherwise incredible song. My complaints about the instrumental parts end at ~3:20, where the song quickens its pace a bit. But let’s get back to the beginning. I don’t like those heavy instrumental parts, yes, but the quiet acoustic-guitar driven passages with the wistful, full yet kind of innocent female voice singing those excellent vocal melodies… I tempted to say they’re the best thing ever. In terms of pure utilization of the female singer’s voice, this is the best track of the round. Her voice starts being more forceful and heavier later, but these acoustic moments, they’re just pure bliss for me. They were a huge part of the reason I liked this song so much. Hell, I craved to get to this song in the rotation again just so I could get to these three passages scattered throughout this tune.

        If anything on The Girl With the Raven Mask is as good as this tune, I consider my $4 well spent.

        9/10

        TAC: Forgotten Tales – Broken Wings


        Second guessing is a bitch. Truth be told, you never needed to worry, your song was one of the two original standouts in this round (Moonhorse is the other one), and even after more listens those two songs ended up being my favourites. But I knew you were struggling having to choose between two songs, since you kindly told me that, and I wanted to have a bit of fun with it so I’ve made some vague comments – which, really, could’ve been interpreted either way – and you got ready for the worst, apparently remembering your previous experience with Odd Dimension and Iris Divine. Maybe I’m a bitch instead of second guessing, but hey, that was kind of fun.

        I like how song starts with intense and pronounced power metal sound – and it’s a perfect transition from the ballad that preceded it on the playlist (Landfill). At first I thought it was one excellent progressive song, but turns out it’s actually two different tunes with only one of them being excellent. I absolutely don’t mind the pace here, in fact, I think the fast-paced song might’ve scored worse. I like groovy power metal songs, and I think your description of this band being “female-fronted Kiske-era Helloween” is more or less spot on. I like how the singer is quite powerful but knows where to sing more or less softly and doesn’t belt out high notes for no reason (this isn’t a jab at Kiske; I just expected the singer to be more high-pitched). I won’t bother listing all the nice parts of this tune, I’ll just say this is an excellent song, very enjoyable, one of my favourites of the round. I’ll definitely look into this band further.

        9/10

        senecadawg2: Tori Amos – Winter


        This was an interesting tune as well. I liked this ballad from get-go, but I didn’t love it, I was thinking 8 for this one, but I honestly don’t know what I was thinking. Maybe it was some stupid prejudice against Tori Amos in the back of my brain, maybe it was something else – hell, maybe I just wasn’t in the mood to appreciate it, but this song clicked with me today big time. “When you’re gonna make up your mind”, heh, well, I’m reasonably sure I’ve made up my mind now.

        But let’s talk about this song first. Now that I’m writing this, I don’t know why I thought this song deserved only an eight, because I can’t find anything I outright dislike here, and I’m finding a lot of things I’ve grown quite fond of. Her voice is gorgeous, and the vocal melodies here are memorable and a perfect choice for this song as far as I’m concerned; the quiet – and sometimes intense – piano instrumentation is spot on, and the subtle strings are doing this song justice too. This is just a great ballad – you seem to hit all my soft spots with your ballads lately – this one isn’t an exception. Regarding Splent’s story… I’m not sure I would’ve started crying if I forgot my mittens in the snow, but hey, that’s tragic alright.

        On a more serious note, this song is really touching and I can totally see how this (crying in the middle of the song) could’ve happened. Anyway, this was the biggest grower on the round, and looking back, I don’t know why I didn’t enjoy this song from my very first listen. It’s not quite a round winner, and this mark is closer to 8.5 than the other two, but it’s a nine nonetheless, which means your song did pretty damn great.

        9/10

        Bolsters: Pandora’s Box – It Just Won’t Quit


        Sending the ballads is always tricky, as I said before and as you noted in your PM. I assume this tune is something special for you, since you said you love it very much, and you were afraid I won’t appreciate it on the same level. Well, I’m afraid you were at least partially right.

        I liked how the ballads in this round divided into happy ones and the sad / bitter ones, and all of them were of roughly the same quality until some of them grew on me and some of them didn’t. The different moods made it a good contrast. This is a nice rock ballad, with some memorable melodies, cool usage of backing vocals, and overall it’s just quite pleasant to listen to. The female vocals are definitely an advantage in this tune, and the somewhat repetitive chorus didn’t bother me one bit.

        I’ve got to say this song was the toughest to rank this round. My thoughts about those ballads kept changing with every listen – this tune is among the happy tunes overall, even though it was that edge of sadness to it too, and at the point of writing tidbits I thought that I liked it just a bit more than the others. Of course, that was where most of the ballads had 7.5 or 8 for their score, but on that last day of listening, they grew on me a lot, and this song did grow on me too, but not that much. I was originally going to give it an eight, but as I said, it grew on me a bit, so 8.5 it is. Hopefully it will help you… because I remember you were tied with Nelson and he has got a higher score.

        8.5/10

        Tomislav95: Daughter – Landfill


        You said we have rather different tastes in ballads, and while I suppose this is true, since neither Bon Iver nor Klone song didn’t strike me as being great, apparently we can find some correlation between our ballads preferences – maybe you just needed to send me a female-fronted song – because while I didn’t think much about this song at first, it ended up being one of the three growers I mentioned in the thread. I’m not sure if that will save you, but even if not, you’re going to go out on a strong note.

        I’ve made some comments – I think it was for Sleepytime Gorilla Museum song – about how I didn’t like how the singer sounded slurred, tired, not caring about her vocal duties and all that. Well, I think the singer in this song sounds tired and slurred too, but the thing is it fits the atmosphere and the message of this song so much. I’ve coated it with sarcasm in the tidbit, but I really like the lyrics here. “I want you so much, but I hate your guts” isn’t that nice, but it makes sense in context of this tune. The first lines without any music behind them are very chilling, and overall the whole song is chilling, bitter and kind of hopeless. And the more I listened to it, the more I appreciated the mood created here and the more I liked the whole composition.

        8.5/10

        bl5150: Floor Jansen and the Metropole Orchestra – Sound of the Wind (Final Fantasy Chronicles)


        See, on one hand, Floor Jansen’s voice on the song is always an advantage. On the other hand, sending me the music from some video game isn’t such a smart choice, because I usually find them quite bland. It didn’t really matter if you mentioned that video game bit or not, because this song just screams “video game” for some reason. Perhaps because the actual instrumental was written with that in mind? I didn’t listen to the original, so I can’t really tell.

        And this track isn’t an exception. While it’s calm, folky and overall enjoyable, I still can’t help but find it quite bland. It should be indeed a fine soundtrack, when you’re caught in the game and the music serves as the background one. And then there’s Floor Jansen, who manages to turn this song from the quite bland to an interesting one. You pretty much said this all in your PM to me, and I mostly agree with everything. Live shots in the video were the highlight too. Especially when they showed Floor. Damn, she’s hot.

        However, even Floor can’t turn a bland track into a brilliant one. I think I’ve said it before in this roulette, but, well… this song is good, and that’s about it.

        7.5/10

        wolfking: Beautiful Sin – This is Not the Original Dream


        Alright, let me get this straight from the very beginning, I like how Magali sounds on Ayreon’s 01011001. And I also like how she replaced Dilenya Mar on the live Beyond the Bridge performances. But I don’t really like her in this song.

        This is kind of a blend between power metal and some melodic rock I guess, and I found it lacks some edge and probably some heaviness too, kind of like The Chronicles Project song I’ve got earlier. Well, I probably worded this wrong, because it is quite heavy, but the whole song with its vocal melodies sounds a bit too in the happy metal vein or I don’t know. And I wasn’t even sure the vocals were female at times, honestly – I could definitely tell it in Ayreon or Beyond the Bridge, but in some moments at the choruses and on the second verse at 1:22, I thought this song had two vocalists. This, and the fact I didn’t like the chorus in this tune were the main reasons I had to lower the score. But don’t get me wrong; maybe the write-up is a little harsh, but I thought it was a good song.

        The very last line where she sings “This is not the original dream!” without any instrumental support still sounds like a male person singing to my ears. Maybe there’s something wrong with me. Oh well.

        7.5/10

        Dr. DTVT: Fanticide – Drowning in Serenity


        This was a curious one. I don’t know how Bolsters managed to guess it, since you claimed the band was relatively unknown, but it doesn’t really matter.

        This is pretty much a progressive metal song, and it’s filled with some good parts and some sections I’m not too fond of. The main problem of this song – I need to get it out of the way early – is that while it’s filled with some good parts, I just can’t grasp it for some reason. I’ve done about ten listens to this song, and I was paying attention on the most of them, and yet if someone asked me to describe this song and outline its structure I would be all “uh, this is progressive metal, female vocals too, which sometimes sound like male”. Perhaps it’s a good sign in a long term thinking – I wasn’t able to get into Haken after numerous listens but now I really like their output – but it’s not that good a sign for the roulette. I do remember some melodies, both instrumental and sung, and I do enjoy this song when I listen to it, but it’s still blurry in my mind when I don’t listen to it. I guess it’s either a very demanding song or something is off with me.

        7.5/10

        jingle.boy: Jefferson Airplane – White Rabbit


        Alright, that was a bold move – sending me something from 60s, no less. I’m going to be honest here once again – you didn’t manage to go out on a high note, but I appreciate you didn’t go with the Animotion route. More on that in your farewell message after the results.

        First off, this song is even shorter than Enemy Within, and I’m always surprised when it ends so ridiculously fast. Second – at least that’s how I interpret it – this song’s focus is mostly the bass and drums, and the vocals become prominent only in a few moments towards the end. Overall, this is a nice song, but it’s just too short to make any lasting conclusions for me, and while I liked the intense buildup and the fact the song eventually reached its highest point in the end, I was bummed it simply ended after that. So, well, this is good, and that’s about it.

        7.5/10

        ErHaO: Seven Kingdoms – After the Fall


        I’ll just say this as a warning, this write-up may be quite harsh, but I thought the song was good enough. I hope the people who wrote and performed this song won’t ever read it.

        I wonder how much generic power metal bands are out there, and how many of them are writing the songs based on A Song of Ice and Fire. Because seriously, this seems to be a main trend in the generic dull power metal now. I mean, fine, but the series aren’t even finished. And I’m actually a fan of the series, but those attempts to write a song about it are always so cringeworthy for me, and it doesn’t help that the music going with those songs isn’t very original at all. Blind Guardian actually did a good job with A Voice in the Dark – which covers the same thread this song does – and a slightly less good job with War of the Thrones; I thought Holy Shire did fine with Winter is Coming – at least it was more proggy and less generic – I’ve even sent them in a few roulettes.

        Now, this tune wasn’t actually as bad as I made it sound. The best thing about it was the female vocals, honestly; the vocal melodies were alright too, and the rest of the song was fairly predictable and unexciting. Still, despite my grumbling about how unoriginal this tune was, I can’t say I disliked it. It was generic, yes, but it wasn’t too bad.

        7.5/10

        Train of Naught: Ignea – Alga


        Well, I don’t want to sound harsh, but I don’t want to do any comforting talk either. It is one of your weaker songs. Perhaps the theme did indeed hinder your ability to send something great, or maybe there were some other reasons, but I thought this song was a bit amateurish and not quite great.

        Actually, you explained it all yourself in your write-up. I agree it has some nice riffs and overall the instrumentation is by far the best thing this tune has to offer. I do like the vocal melodies, especially in the chorus, but then I’m still kind of meh towards the singer even after 10ish listens; I think she sounds flat and not powerful enough for this kind of symphonic rock/metal song. Well, except on that death metal growl moment. Did that song really need to feature that death metal growl? That was indeed just so random and unneeded. And it doesn’t really affect your score. Death metal growl or not, I thought it was an alright song with some good parts, which just doesn’t cut it in this crowd.

        7/10

        lonestar: Heart – Barracuda


        Well, I know I’ve probably misled some of you guys with that 70s-related comment for the previous round – but I was honest, I do like a lot of bands / artists that were active in 70s, even the ones I didn’t know before I hosted my first roulette here. Journey and UFO were the definite hits for me. This one, well, not so much.

        I imagine some of you guys who grew up with this song will disagree with what comes next, but, well, here goes. Overall, I can’t say this is a bad song, and it’s certainly better than mediocre, but it’s just not that good either. It sounds kind of like a really ordinary rock song from the past with that one oddity which is featuring female vocals. It’s no secret I paid a lot of attention to the vocals this time, like I did in another vocal-related round in my first roulette, and frankly, this song has been somewhat of a disappointment in this regard. There are a lot of moments where I felt the vocals just don’t fit the song, like in the very first verse; but there were some moments I felt the vocals were a good fit, too. I also disliked the way she sings – or maybe even speaks – some parts, like “Now, wouldn’t you” or “No, you better”.

        I mean, I can indeed see how this song pretty much blasted the door open for all other woman to rock and roll, as you said in your PM, but this song didn’t do a lot for me. I enjoyed some parts of it, true, but that’s about it. Sorry, RJ, I know that's probably blasphemy or something, but here it goes.

        7/10

        Bands added to banned list:

        Avatarium
        Forgotten Tales
        Tori Amos
        Pandora's Box
        Daughter
        Floor Jansen and the Metropole Orchestra
        Beautiful Sin
        Fanticide
        Jefferson Airplane
        Seven Kingdoms

        The scoreboard:

        wolfking - 52
        Big Hath - 52
        TAC – 51
        bl5150 - 49.5
        senecadawg2 - 49.5


        lonestar - 49
        Bolsters - 49


        Tomislav95 - 47.5
        jingle.boy - 46.5
        Train of Naught - 46.5
        ErHaO - 45
        Dr. DTVT – 44
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 01:31:13 PM
        Here are some farewell messages that didn't fit into my previous post because of exceeded characters limit.

        Tomislav, well, I don’t know what you think about your overall performance in this, but I thought it was decent. Unfortunately, you’ve blown what appeared to be your best song on the qualifiers, but you know I’ve already bought a Beardfish album and The Smiths album too, and I’ll be checking Redemption as soon as I can. Daughter will probably make my list too. You’re eliminated now, yes, but you’ve made me discover and buy some new music, and I think that’s the most important thing. Thank you for playing!

        Chad, I’m going to be honest since I know you don’t like pep talk and such things :lol I’m disappointed, and you’re probably disappointed in me too. I’ve never expected you to be eliminated here, I expected you to proudly stride to the top of the scoreboard with some excellent power / progressive metal entries. When you did send some of those like Damnations Angels, Vandroya and Glass Mind (by the way, Tim is kind of pissed off in my PM about it, if it offers you some comfort :lol ), you were doing remarkably well, but when you went with Slaughter and Jefferson Airplane, that’s where it all shattered. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed it and thank you for participating. I’m sure you’ll keep introducing me to some great bands (like you did with Phantasma through Nick’s WPAPU show), so it’s not the end of the world or anything. Let's see how you manage to kick my ass in the Bolsters roulette (hint: you won't :biggrin: )

        ToN, I honestly don’t think you had ever expected to make it through the cut. :lol A lot of your entries were just good, nothing more, but sometimes you managed to send just the right song for me – The Dear Hunter being a great example. Actually, the mere fact you managed to make me want to buy some TDH albums is probably worth your participation in this roulette all along. After all, you properly introduced me to your favourite band!

        Casper, well, I think the problem here was just that you were terribly inconsistent in this one. You’ve sent some amazing bands like Suspyre and Lyriel (can’t wait to explore this one), and sometimes you sent the duds like Beyond Twilight and Agnes Obel. I’m glad you still decided to play in this roulette despite your real life stuff and the fact you almost don’t play in the roulettes – I feel kind of honored.

        Mason, I’m surprised you did so poorly, but I suspect the huge part of it was the time commitment problems with your musical and all. You actually didn’t do too bad, despite being at the last place; I really liked Sieges Even and Subsignal tracks, and Lee Abraham was very interesting too; Orphaned Land I didn’t like, but you could’ve survived with one mediocre score, what truly killed all your chances was that Sleepytime Gorilla Museum entry. Anyway, thank you for finding the time to send me some great (and some not-so-great) songs, I appreciate it.

        RJ and Dave... scroll down to the next post. You're going to compete in a short tiebreaker.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
        Round 6½: Tiebreaker

        So well, since RJ and Dave both have the same score and there's only one place left among the final six players, we're going to hold this tiebreaker, just as we did in my first roulette.

        The rules are simple: you both have to send me one song. I'll do a few listens (not ten listens as usual, something like five) and will post my write-ups and songs' rating. Whoever sends the best song proceeds to the Round 7, and the other participant is eliminated.

        The players who are already in the Round 7 - and the ones eliminated - are free to gloat and joke as they see fit. :biggrin:

        The time-limit for this round is 10 minutes.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
        Wow. That was torturous!



        Boy, I sure would like to send a couple of Glass Mind tracks in the next round. But then again, so would J-Boy!!!


        :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on March 30, 2016, 01:46:22 PM
        It was my pleasure playing in your roulette, Evermind :tup
        I'm disappointed a little I didn't sent any song you liked as much as Redemption but even though we have many bands in common I think our tastes are pretty different (and I don't have such big music library as most of other players), so I'm not too surprised.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 30, 2016, 01:50:15 PM
        Nooooooooooooo

        Of course I saw this coming. I said it in my PM, but yeah, female vocalists heaily limits my music. I think out of the bands with vocals I listen to, less than 5% is female vocals. Needless to say, this was easily my personal least favorite song from the things I sent also.

        Despite only being 6 rounds, this roulette was smooth as fuck, probably the best I've been in schedule-wise (taste-wise, the worst :neverusethis:). I'll probably throw some shit that didn't make it your way soon, I wouldn't be surprised if the things I ended up not sending because of second guessing would have done better :lol

        Good luck Bolsters and lonestar, and the rest of you in the upcoming rounds, will be following this, Train out!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 01:56:06 PM
        Yeah, if you guys want to send me any leftovers that you wanted to send but didn't have an opportinuty, you're welcome. My next roulette will take place in three years or something like that, so you probably shouldn't worry about saving the songs for it. I won't listen to your songs until this roulette is finished though.

        Boy, I sure would like to send a couple of Glass Mind tracks in the next round. But then again, so would J-Boy!!!

        :neverusethis:

        :rollin

        This genuinely made me laugh.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 30, 2016, 02:40:13 PM
        whew, sweated that one out!

        were you saying you thought those parts were djent?  That's some good ol' doom right there.

        anyway, great song!


        and how will the scoring play out for these next two rounds?  How is it weighted, what are the points, etc?  Sorry if you already said this somewhere earlier.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 02:48:50 PM
        No no no, wasn't saying it was djent. It's just you said the song's parts were supposed to be plodding, and I acknowledged it and said I don't have to like it. Kind of like djent is supposed to be heavy and weird, and that's why I dislike it actually.

        I'll send you guys the details for Round 7 and 8 tomorrow in the evening.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 30, 2016, 03:09:40 PM
        holy crap, just realized I was now tied with wolfy at the top!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
        That's cuz you cheated!  ;D

        Misty green and blue hoo hoo...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 30, 2016, 03:15:05 PM
        never forgive, never forget
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 03:17:16 PM
        (https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/09/09890516c6f57db5f2358a76cb26fffe54e9eda5b27ba12e08f5447ac0cc9239.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Floating in seas of doubt (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 30, 2016, 03:24:27 PM
        So far the 2 rounds where I thought I was taking a bit of a risk have been a total failure.  Let's see if I can make it 3/3.  ;D

        What an awesome prediction  :biggrin:

        See , this is why I introduced optional bonus themes into my roulette - because I feel sorry for people like me who usually stuff up themed rounds (ballads aside). :)

        Ah well - surprised to still be in it after 3 dud rounds.  And I think I am still in it with what I have lined up .  Let's see  :xbones
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 30, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
        Fucking criminal. Oh well, enough fucking around, sending now....
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on March 30, 2016, 04:07:41 PM
        Regarding Splent’s story… I’m not sure I would’ve started crying if I forgot my mittens in the snow, but hey, that’s tragic alright.

         ;D

        I'm glad you enjoyed the song! I can't speak for all of Tori Amos's music, but that album is pretty great start to finish.

        On to the next round, with only a couple points to make up
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
        Fucking criminal. Oh well, enough fucking around, sending now....

        No shit.  Kids these days.   :laugh: :P :P

        Well, I am disappointed too.  That's tastes for ya though.  Slaughter killed my chances, as there just wasn't a way to recover from a bad score when everyone was pretty much nailing 8s and above at some point.  Such is Roulette'ing.  White Rabbit wasn't what I would've played if I was close, it was something I was taking a chance with.  Seems as though "classic" tunes just aren't your thing... again, so be it.

        And I am gonna kick your ass in Dave's.  And RJ's.  And Kade's. 

        (https://i.imgur.com/3JAPEXi.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 06:33:58 PM
        And I am gonna kick your ass in Dave's.  And RJ's.  And Kade's. 

        You're just lucky I'm not playing!

        (https://i.imgur.com/3JAPEXi.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2016, 07:10:35 PM
        And I am gonna kick your ass in Dave's.  And RJ's.  And Kade's. 

        You're just lucky I'm not playing!

        (https://i.imgur.com/3JAPEXi.gif)

        Glass Mind was already banned.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 30, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
        Sented  :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 30, 2016, 09:01:57 PM
        8.5 is about as good as I thought I would get, so I can't be disappointed that my expectations were met.

        I might actually put some small amount of thought into what I send for the tiebreaker, but I will definitely be sending today, so that you don't have to wait too long to start listening to our songs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2016, 09:19:06 PM
        holy crap, just realized I was now tied with wolfy at the top!

        *shakes fist*

        I knew I'd choke and let the gap close.  Oh well, bring on round 7.  Good luck to RJ and Dave.

        Sented  :metal

        I thought we have to wait for more details?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 30, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
        8.5 is about as good as I thought I would get, so I can't be disappointed that my expectations were met.

        I might actually put some small amount of thought into what I send for the tiebreaker, but I will definitely be sending today, so that you don't have to wait too long to start listening to our songs.

        Lol I already forgot what I sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 30, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
        And I ended up putting very little thought in and sent already. :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 30, 2016, 10:18:20 PM
        And I ended up putting very little thought in and sent already. :metal

        Gotta love knee jerk reactions. Shall we let the masses know what we sent?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 30, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
        And I ended up putting very little thought in and sent already. :metal

        Gotta love knee jerk reactions. Shall we let the masses know what we sent?

        You should let me know what you sent because the link says your video isn't available. :P

        Kade, if you already know what you'll be sending, you don't have to wait for the details to send the songs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 30, 2016, 10:47:37 PM
        Gotta love knee jerk reactions. Shall we let the masses know what we sent?
        You first. :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2016, 05:46:04 AM
        And I ended up putting very little thought in and sent already. :metal

        Gotta love knee jerk reactions. Shall we let the masses know what we sent?

        You should let me know what you sent because the link says your video isn't available. :P

        Kade, if you already know what you'll be sending, you don't have to wait for the details to send the songs.

        Oh no, don't mind me, I have no clue.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 31, 2016, 11:34:28 AM
        And I am gonna kick your ass in Dave's.  And RJ's.  And Kade's. 

        (https://i.imgur.com/3JAPEXi.gif)

        I think you have a fair chance of kicking my ass in RJ's and Kade's since I suppose their banned list will be so huge I'll end up sending something outside their comfort zones, but I'm going to give you a hell of a fight in Dave's.

        Anyway, since you guys decided not to reveal your songs, I thought I'll post this blurred picture while I'm at it.

        (https://i.imgur.com/Pa3bkfn.jpg)

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on March 31, 2016, 11:40:28 AM
        Lonestar writes his own stuff?

        First one is Lonestar - Love or Lie
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on March 31, 2016, 11:44:08 AM
        Deathstar - Love For Less
        Hey Slim - The Sign (Ace of Base cover)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 31, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
        Lonestar writes his own stuff?

        First one is Lonestar - Love or Lie

        Sorry, you haven't got a single word right. :biggrin:

        Deathstar - Love For Less
        Hey Slim - The Sign (Ace of Base cover)

        Now you did much better, you got two words right. :P

        I sent out the Round 7 and Round 8 descriptions in the PM to the finalists and the tiebreaker participants. You can start planning accordingly, and if you know what you're sending in Round 7, you can also go ahead and send it.

        Tiebreaker results tomorrow. I'm two listens in and I think I already know the winner, but I don't want to rush it since the other song might grow on me yet.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Luoto on March 31, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
        This reply is a little late, but I indeed got one guess right for the female fronted round, and that was Avatarium!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2016, 03:09:31 PM
        Cool.  Had a read through the next 2 rounds, seems good.  Will look for something tonight.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2016, 03:43:52 PM
        I think I have a band, just gotta narrow it down to 2 songs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2016, 04:33:05 PM
        I think I have a band, just gotta narrow it down to 2 songs.

        I have this feeling my EP is about to be cock blocked  ;D


        So Ruslan - is the EP a hard limit of 35 mins or do we have 30 secs leeway like the other rounds?  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2016, 05:13:07 PM
        I think I have a band, just gotta narrow it down to 2 songs.

        I have this feeling my EP is about to be cock blocked  ;D


        So Ruslan - is the EP a hard limit of 35 mins or do we have 30 secs leeway like the other rounds?  :lol

        Hmmm....I don't think so mate, I think you're safe.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 31, 2016, 08:01:05 PM
        (https://i.imgur.com/Pa3bkfn.jpg)
        Do I see 7th Sign?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on March 31, 2016, 08:18:44 PM
        Bout time someone got something..
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2016, 08:40:52 PM
        The thing is, it's sometimes hard to know if these guesses are serious or not.  Considering how obscure many submissions are,  "Deathstar - Love For Less" could seem legit.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2016, 08:55:45 PM
        Has anyone ever submitted something of their own?  The first one could be Lonestar  :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
        Has anyone ever submitted something of their own?  The first one could be Lonestar  :biggrin:

        I keep waiting for Elite to, but haven't seen it yet.  There are two other DTF'rs who have some great music, and I'm dying to use one of them in an upcoming roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on March 31, 2016, 09:12:05 PM
        I know Lucien has sent his compositions in roulettes before. I can't think of anyone else who has off the top of my head.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Crow on March 31, 2016, 09:17:47 PM
        when i actually sit down and record a song i've written then maybe i will but submitting gp5/6 rse-generated songs feels like a bad idea  :lol
        also i haven't written anything in yeeeeaaars because life
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 31, 2016, 09:58:35 PM
        The song I sent was from Adami.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2016, 10:25:07 PM
        The song I sent was from Adami.

        Oh, right... Fanticide.  That slipped my mind.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on March 31, 2016, 10:25:12 PM
        So Ruslan - is the EP a hard limit of 35 mins or do we have 30 secs leeway like the other rounds?  :lol

        Hard limit this time. :lol If you can't fit it in 35 minutes even after you cut the silences and all, you may need to rethink you EP.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 01, 2016, 06:03:58 AM
        Well?


         :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 06:09:17 AM
        Well, I'm at work.

        I'll get home in three or four hours, will do one or two final listens and post the results then. That makes it... 5-6 hours from now on I think. Could be earlier too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 01, 2016, 07:05:29 AM
        Coolio, just itching to send you the next round...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2016, 07:16:13 AM
        Awww... come ride the pine with me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 10:12:46 AM
        Here we go.

        Round 6 Tiebreaker Results:

        Bolsters: Burnclear – Lost For Life

        You said you wanted to save this song for one of the next two rounds… I honestly don’t know what you were thinking. This was as generic as it gets, and the guitar riffs even got djenty at one point, which is a big no for me.

        The intro was actually fine, intense and all, but then, well, why does the section from 1:15 to 1:20 sound like someone is rapidly farting right into the mic? The singer sounds capable but he’s buried in the mix and it’s difficult to discern then in the vast sea of overwhelming (and at the same time quite underwhelming musically) guitar riffs. This song sounds like the band tried too hard to sound heavy and have this certain edge in their music, and the result is deplorable, really. While it has its rare moments, overall this song is as bland as it gets.

        I know you thought this song will get a nice score, but apparently it’s just not for me. Too generic, too heavy and not really enjoyable overall. Your only consolation is that the other player didn’t do too well in this round too.

        6/10

        lonestar: Day Six – 7th Sign

        First thing I’ve noticed about this is song is how slow-paced and plodding it is in the first half. They’re like that Avatarium song I received in the previous round, only with the male vocalist – and you probably remember that female vocalist was the main highlight of Avatarium. Draw your conclusions.

        While there are some moments that I like, the amount of moments I don’t like is considerably huger. Like, what’s the deal with that ripping heavy riff at ~1:33? Or with the vocal effects in the next passage? Those sound like the guy was about to swallow the microphone during the recording. The song is actually somewhat decent until it gets to that breakdown at 4:25, changing the rhythm and the pace in the way that makes me feel like I’ve been hit on my head with a brick. This transition is so disjointed it’s ridiculous, really. And the instrumental part that comes after it is another part being heavy for heaviness sake.

        I wanted to like this song, I really did, but now that I reflect on this tune, it’s not any better than the one Bolsters sent. It’s so mediocre it’s disturbing.

        6/10

        I’ve been thinking about it all the way from my work to home, and I just can’t decide which song is better here. Both songs are very mediocre and unexciting, and I had to make a cutting decision anyway. I was looking forward to get some great tunes from you guys, but this round left me disappointed, and with such songs I received here… eventually I came to a decision, and I bet you won’t like this one, but hey, that’s how I think it should be.

        In the end, I decided you’re both eliminated since you both didn’t impress me in this round at all. Sorry to say that; I had high hopes for both of you, but that’s just how it is.

        The remaining five participants can send me their Round 7 songs now. I’ll post the official description for this round in a bit, but since you already have it in your PM, there should be no problem for you to send your entries.

        Good luck and send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Oh mother, are there horses on the moon? (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 01, 2016, 10:15:50 AM
        you guys probably should have sent these songs


        Deathstar - Love For Less
        Hey Slim - The Sign (Ace of Base cover)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2016, 10:18:44 AM
        I think I gave Mr Bolsters a decent score for that track  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 01, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
        That's rough.. Evermind, did you take your evil pill today?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2016, 10:31:55 AM
        In the end, I decided you’re both eliminated since you both didn’t impress me in this round at all. Sorry to say that; I had high hopes for both of you, but that’s just how it is.

        (https://replygif.net/i/552.gif)

        Ruslan, I would applaud the size of your stones if it wasn't April 1st.

        *awaits real post*
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 10:32:43 AM
        :neverusethis:

        Real results in ~30 minutes.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 01, 2016, 10:37:48 AM
        Honestly you should've done the Sacul writeups. Though that would make it seem less believable. I must admit you got me there for a second, not bad.

        Gets me thinking, I can't actually have gotten a silver star in Bolsters' roulette, must be an April Fools joke aswell.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
         :lol  I just looked at the scores and the summary.  It's 2nd April here so you're too late  :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 01, 2016, 10:42:38 AM
        If you compete in the Russian competition, you better damn well adjust to Russian timezones m8
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 10:46:23 AM
        It easy for you to say, since you're only a few hours behind. ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2016, 10:50:50 AM
        If you compete in the Russian competition, you better damn well adjust to Russian timezones m8

        I think someone's sense of humour needs an adjustment m8? 

        I was more referring to David anyway .  By the time he sees it , it'll be well and truly beyond April Fools.  It's approaching 4am here ......... twas a big night .  Hic   :)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. There's only one way (Tiebreaker Results)
        Post by: Crow on April 01, 2016, 10:58:44 AM
        Perfect  :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 11:15:30 AM
        I was more referring to David anyway .  By the time he sees it , it'll be well and truly beyond April Fools.  It's approaching 4am here ......... twas a big night .  Hic   :)

        Well, that was just a general attempt to joke. I didn't consider anyone's time zone, if Dave and RJ weren't there to be fooled, well, that's their loss. :D

        Anyway, I just couldn't miss that fine opportunity with these fake results. Now, here are the serious, real ones.

        Round 6 Tiebreaker Real Results:

        lonestar: Day Six – 7th Sign

        Alright, look, RJ, how about that... can you do every round with “Oh well, enough fucking around” approach? From this one example it seems to work like a charm. I’ll be honest, writing the fake writeup for this song was torturous and incredibly difficult, because this song is the very definition of awesome for me.

        I knew where to start with the fake write-up, since there were some parts – like that transition at 4:25 – I only liked, while the other sections I loved dearly. So I don’t really know where to start with that positive write-up. I love the singer, he sounds beyond awesome. He won me over with one of the very first lines, “never to be suuuure”. The whole intro is bloody magnificent, with the prominent bassline and the tasteful guitar licks all over it, very atmospheric. The singer is a perfect fit for the mood this song builds up. I especially like how he adjusts his voice to the more intense moments of this song, yet staying in his vocal range. The vocal effects at the second verse are still the weak point of this tune, yes, but the rest is really magnificent.

        RJ, I know I didn’t like Barracuda too much, but I guess that’s just the age differences showing. I really liked this song. You’re like an endless storage of wonderful progressive metal music. Just when I think you used up all your bands, you manage to send something like this. This is fantastic. Welcome to the Round 7.

        9.5/10

        Bolsters: Burnclear – Lost For Life


        So, you indeed said you wanted to save this song for one of the next two rounds, and I can indeed understand why you wanted to do it. This song is quite a good one, really solid metal track.

        I think it’s sufficient to say that the part I mentioned in my fake writeup (the one with farting from 1:15 to 1:20) is the one that bothers me the most; other than that, this song is very solid and enjoyable. Cool vocalist with deep and somewhat raspy voice when needed, nice heavy vibe all along, and the big plus here is the fact the singer fits the music really well. I think there is another thing I can complain about, even though those complaints are pretty small… for what it’s worth, I think the chorus sounds too happy, and that’s the same problem I had with that Beautiful Sin track from the last round.

        Other than that, I really enjoyed this tune. I think it’s a solid 8.5 bordering on 9, and it’s one of the best tracks you sent to me if you don’t count The Bonding. Unfortunately for you, RJ just didn’t allow for the competition here.

        It’s kind of sad, really, because I thought you had a huge potential to, well, maybe not win this one, but to kick some people asses alright. Your qualifying songs were really great, but then you just struggled to find something that would align well with me. Still, you introduced me to some great bands I will definitely explore further – Edenbridge, Pantommind, Pandora’s Box, Burnclear, Beyond the Black and Dave Kerzner are all on my radar. I can’t help but think I should’ve bumped your Beyond the Black score to 8.5, but then I think I should’ve bumped RJ’s Prospekt score to 8.5 either, so it just doesn’t work like that. I’m not going to change any scores, I’m sticking with the choices I’ve made when I ranked your songs, and I feel this is a good decision. So, unfortunately, you’re out. I hope this event won’t bite my ass in your roulette later.

        8.5/10

        Bands added to banned list:

        Day Six
        Burnclear

        The scoreboard:

        wolfking - 52
        Big Hath - 52
        TAC – 51
        bl5150 - 49.5
        senecadawg2 - 49.5
        lonestar - 49
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 11:15:43 AM
        Round 7: Open: Two songs from the same band

        Alright, so this round is what I like to call "Introduce me to that band" round. You have to send two songs from one band. You can use whatever strategy you like - you can send two consecutive songs from the album, you can send two polar opposites (like death metal and progressive rock in case of Anathema), you can just send two of your favourite songs - anything will do. If I like both songs, there's a great chance I will explore this band further, so if you ever wanted to get me into your favourite bands and you don't fear the risks, go ahead.

        I will accept three and even four tracks in this round, in case one (or two) tracks are the short instrumental intros to the actual songs - like I did it in the previous six rounds (Jon sent me Rise / Wolf and the Moon and it was totally fine), but I won't accept three actual songs even if they form a suite. If that doesn't make sense, feel free to ask additional questions via PM or in the thread.

        So, you have to send me two songs from the same band. I will rate each song separately - the flow doesn't matter in this round - and the rating for each song will be out of 10. Therefore, the maximum amount of points you can grab in this round is 20.

        The time-limit for both songs combined is 20 minutes.

        Send your songs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2016, 11:19:30 AM
        I was more referring to David anyway .  By the time he sees it , it'll be well and truly beyond April Fools.  It's approaching 4am here ......... twas a big night .  Hic   :)

        Well, that was just a general attempt to joke.

        Me too - didn't mean to start a debate around time zones  :lol

        I'll look into Day Six again.  I do remember sampling them and didn't take it any further.  But then our tastes in prog metal aren't quite as in sync as in some other areas :) .
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 01, 2016, 11:34:53 AM
        Sweet bro!!!  Had a good feeling about that one had an absolute priority feel to it. I'll send after work.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2016, 11:41:33 AM
        Those bands are now both on 'the list'.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 01, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
        Round 7 sent.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on April 01, 2016, 08:25:32 PM
        Not surprising that I'm the one eliminated, like you said I really struggled for the majority of this roulette to consistently send stuff that was great instead of just good. Thanks for having me though and good luck to all those still in it. Except for RJ :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 01, 2016, 08:56:28 PM
         :yeahright



        Anyhoo, sent...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 01, 2016, 11:49:20 PM
        Round 7 sent.

        Check your PM inbox.

        What is it with people sending me the exact same songs they used in my first roulette?  :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2016, 04:56:37 AM
        Round 7 sent.

        Check your PM inbox.

        What is it with people sending me the exact same songs they used in my first roulette?  :D

        They were just that good!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Elite on April 02, 2016, 05:06:07 AM
        Day Six!? Really? How?

        They're this obscure Dutch band and they rarely gig. I've seen them live once or twice, how did you know about them?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 02, 2016, 06:01:29 AM
        Day Six!? Really? How?

        They're this obscure Dutch band and they rarely gig. I've seen them live once or twice, how did you know about them?

        I probably received them as a promo for Lady Obscure, or found them on one of my Bandcamp fishing trips where I spend hours randomly checking out new stuff, found lots of good stuff that way.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 02, 2016, 01:35:09 PM
        Round 7 sent.

        Check your PM inbox.

        What is it with people sending me the exact same songs they used in my first roulette?  :D

        They were just that good!

        I'm too lazy to check but I think this particular song got something like 5.5 back then. :lol I remember I didn't like it at all.

        Anyway, I need Nelson's entry and Kade has to resend and then we're good to go. I think I'll start the listening tomorrow anyway, already got eight songs on my plate. Some very interesting entries this time.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
        Round 7 sent.

        Check your PM inbox.

        What is it with people sending me the exact same songs they used in my first roulette?  :D

        They were just that good!

        I'm too lazy to check but I think this particular song got something like 5.5 back then. :lol I remember I didn't like it at all.


        God man - just accept it   :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 02, 2016, 06:48:16 PM
        he's going to LOVE it this time
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: TAC on April 02, 2016, 06:49:01 PM
        Yeah, no problem here either! ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2016, 04:17:19 AM
        No, just got in from the weekend now, gonna send another band.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2016, 05:31:51 AM
        Alright sent and trying again.  Sorry for holding things up.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 03, 2016, 05:41:22 AM
        Point deducted Mr King - time wasting

        (https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/02/02/2BE449B600000578-3219105-From_there_it_went_from_bad_to_worse_as_Kyrgios_bizarrely_preten-a-2_1441156089466.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2016, 05:46:45 AM
         :facepalm:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 03, 2016, 05:48:14 AM
        That wasn't nice being represented by Australia's biggest tosser Kyrgios - sorry  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 03, 2016, 05:50:25 AM
        Alright sent and trying again.  Sorry for holding things up.

        Well, Nelson still has to send, so now it's not you who is holding the things up.

        I'm listening to what I've got already. I wanted to start listening as soon as it was possible since this round may take a bit longer than usual - I've got two songs over 10 minutes, and I also have this Avantasia show I'm attending at Wednesday, so April 6th will be a non-roulette day for me. Hopefully I'll get the last entry today.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Answers stayed in sight never to be told (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2016, 05:51:36 AM
        That wasn't nice being represented by Australia's biggest tosser Kyrgios - sorry  :lol

        You're lucky I pretty much don't take offence to anything.  :lol  That guy is a fucking wanka though.  At least I'm not the last to send.  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: Evermind on April 03, 2016, 10:07:53 AM
        Huh, very curious selection this time around. Some players apparently decided to follow Chad's "win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" motto, and some players decided to take some risks. Still waiting for Nelson, blurred pic will come up when I get these last two tracks.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 03, 2016, 10:17:23 AM
        Huh, very curious selection this time around. Some players apparently decided to follow Chad's "win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" motto

        I'm proud of you, boys.

        Predictions:
        Conception
        Core bands from Aryeon and/or Avantasia vocalists.
        I have a guess at Kade's submission, but don't want to say - because I'm hoping to sneak it in on someone else's upcoming roulette
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2016, 09:04:08 PM
        I for some reason went with an album I have never spoken about on here and I think I may have made a wrong move.  It's an album that even has slipped under my radar to be honest.  Obviously struggling and just went for it as I have a feeling Ruslan may dig it.  Listening to it again last night, it's a pretty strong album IMO.  I'm pretty sure the bands been mentioned quite a bit, but don't recall much talk on this album. 

        Hint:  It's a band that has only had two albums and I sent two songs from their sophomore release.  I don't even know their first album but will check it out now.

        And I thought about cheating but decided against it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 03, 2016, 09:09:27 PM
        No idea on that one Kade.  Might have after the pic though.

        I can't see much about mine that is a cheat either , so we're the risk takers mate  :metal

        My EP is ready to rumble too (subject to cock blocks)........has gone a total 180 in the last few days.  From a soft, atmospheric ballady EP to a "knock you out of your seat" epic metal attack :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
        No idea on that one Kade.  Might have after the pic though.

        I can't see much about mine that is a cheat either , so we're the risk takers mate  :metal

        My EP is ready to rumble too (subject to cock blocks)........has gone a total 180 in the last few days.  From a soft, atmospheric ballady EP to a "knock you out of your seat" epic metal attack :lol

        Yeah, I'm sure you'd know the band once you find out.

        Haven't even thought of the EP yet.  But when I change my mind so much like that seems to be when it hurts the most.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 06:05:03 AM
        Actually, I take it back, I kinda cheated cause one of the songs has a guest vocalist that Ruslan knows.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. It's stranger than you think (Listening)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 04, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
        Very sorry for being late, but I finally sent.

        I completely missed the post three days ago with the tie-breaker results. Hopefully the pair of songs I chose will make up for my tardiness. It shouldn't happen again--I normally send immediately.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 04, 2016, 10:53:18 AM
        :tup

        Here's the first blurred picture! I blurred all the band names into oblivion because there are only six bands this round, and you all are pretty much familiar with each other tastes by now. The bands follow each other - the 1st and 2nd song is from one band, the 3rd and 4th is by another and so on.

        (https://i.imgur.com/1f9xOst.jpg)

        Regarding the schedule, I'll post the second picture tomorrow if needed, Wednesday is a non-roulette day for me due to Avantasia gig, tidbits Thursday and the results will be up either Friday or (unlikely) Saturday. In the meantime, you can prepare your EPs if you don't need this round results for that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 04, 2016, 10:57:53 AM
        First one looks like TesseracT, can't make out the first but the second looks like Hexes, would be interesting if its true.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2016, 10:59:15 AM
        Bugger...........I predicted I would get cock blocked this round and there it is (Sunburst - Out of the World and Remedy of My Heart)  :lol   But the two tracks sent are among my least favourite on the album  (7-8 ish for my taste).  Will be interesting to see how they score.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 04, 2016, 11:15:47 AM
        Bugger...........I predicted I would get cock blocked this round and there it is (Sunburst - Out of the World and Remedy of My Heart)  :lol   But the two tracks sent are among my least favourite on the album  (7-8 ish for my taste).  Will be interesting to see how they score.

        First it was 6-7ish, then 7ish, now 7-8ish? It is going to be a perfect score at the end of the day? :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2016, 11:18:25 AM
        I relistened to them and decided my initial post was a bit harsh  ;D   I gave both of those tracks 3 iTunes stars when I rated the album but I must've been in a bad mood that day :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 04, 2016, 12:46:44 PM
        Checking out the Sunburst now. Saw a review on it and I made a mental note to check them out.


        I can't make out shit on that picture! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 04, 2016, 12:55:59 PM
        I relistened to them and decided my initial post was a bit harsh  ;D   I gave both of those tracks 3 iTunes stars when I rated the album but I must've been in a bad mood that day :lol

        Obviously the same day you rated the Metal Church and Anthrax CDs!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 04, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
        First one looks like TesseracT, can't make out the first but the second looks like Hexes, would be interesting if its true.

        Dystopia?

        Sounds like a Seneca entry.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 03:02:43 PM
        The Sunburst is really good.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 04, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
        The Sunburst is really good.

        That's whoni had you pegged for - with it being Vasili-Khan and all.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 04:07:04 PM
        The Sunburst is really good.

        That's whoni had you pegged for - with it being Vasili-Khan and all.

        Nah, thought way too hard this round, that would have been too easy. duh.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 04, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
        First one looks like TesseracT, can't make out the first but the second looks like Hexes, would be interesting if its true.

        Dystopia?
        Yep. Two damn fine tracks off the new album. Pity the best song on that album isn't included though

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: lonestar on April 04, 2016, 06:44:52 PM
        First one looks like TesseracT, can't make out the first but the second looks like Hexes, would be interesting if its true.

        Dystopia?
        Yep. Two damn fine tracks off the new album. Pity the best song on that album isn't included though

        I was gonna throw Tourniquet but I kinda liked the flow of these two. Initially I wanted to send all of Of Matter, but he wouldn't let me do three songs. *shakes fist*
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Crow on April 04, 2016, 06:49:28 PM
        i mean, you outright sent djent to evermind though  :lol
        i still haven't gotten polaris. i'll probably forget to do it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: lonestar on April 04, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
        i mean, you outright sent djent to evermind though  :lol
        i still haven't gotten polaris. i'll probably forget to do it.

        Yeah, somewhere in the thread I stated that the problem was no one was sending good d'jent, and that I promised to rectify that. Now I have.

        Also Ruslan stated that if he likes the tunes, he might pick up tickets to see them when they're playing in Moscow, which would be a bonus, cause they fucking kill it live.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 05, 2016, 01:50:30 AM
        Yeah, I wanted to send an Earthside song with Daniel Tompkins on vocals to start him off, but I never thought of Polaris, that could definitely work. It's not nearly as djenty, and honestly I think he would've hated Proxy :lol

        I like how you knew I was talking about Tourniquet when adressing 'the best song'. I don't think Evermind rates the flow though but these two are killer too so it doesn't matter much
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 06:50:44 AM
        Ruslan, where are you seeing Avantasia?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 07:08:25 AM
        City-wise, Moscow, venue-wise, Ray Just Arena, a quite big general admission venue. Lots of bands play there, saw Avantasia there three years ago too, Blind Guardian, Helloween and so on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 07:23:50 AM
        City-wise, Moscow, venue-wise, Ray Just Arena, a quite big general admission venue. Lots of bands play there, saw Avantasia there three years ago too, Blind Guardian, Helloween and so on.
        Where are you in relation to Moscow? (Not stalking! ;D)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 09:55:54 AM
        City-wise, Moscow, venue-wise, Ray Just Arena, a quite big general admission venue. Lots of bands play there, saw Avantasia there three years ago too, Blind Guardian, Helloween and so on.
        Where are you in relation to Moscow? (Not stalking! ;D)

        It's no big secret anyway. :D

        I'm near the Sokolniki subway station. No idea if the links work (well, they do for me, no idea if they'll work for you :lol ), since I'm not too adept at Google Maps, but try these:

        My home (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/3-%D1%8F+%D0%A0%D1%8B%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F+%D1%83%D0%BB.,+30,+%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0,+107113/@55.788987,37.6610753,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x46b5358f94e0d0fd:0xee2c6736e4b17973?hl=ru)
        Ray Just Arena (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/Ray+Just+Arena/@55.7854767,37.5592241,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xcf3c2565087979a2?hl=ru)
        Working place (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9+%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9+%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4+%D0%B8%D0%BC.+%D0%9C.%D0%9B.+%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8F/@55.6650459,37.9277052,15.45z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x066abda9098b23b9?hl=ru)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 05, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
        3-я Рыбинская ул, I can read Greek but this is a fucking mess :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 10:37:36 AM
        City-wise, Moscow, venue-wise, Ray Just Arena, a quite big general admission venue. Lots of bands play there, saw Avantasia there three years ago too, Blind Guardian, Helloween and so on.
        Where are you in relation to Moscow? (Not stalking! ;D)

        It's no big secret anyway. :D

        I'm near the Sokolniki subway station. No idea if the links work (well, they do for me, no idea if they'll work for you :lol ), since I'm not too adept at Google Maps, but try these:

        My home (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/3-%D1%8F+%D0%A0%D1%8B%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F+%D1%83%D0%BB.,+30,+%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0,+107113/@55.788987,37.6610753,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x46b5358f94e0d0fd:0xee2c6736e4b17973?hl=ru)
        Ray Just Arena (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/Ray+Just+Arena/@55.7854767,37.5592241,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xcf3c2565087979a2?hl=ru)
        Working place (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9+%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9+%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4+%D0%B8%D0%BC.+%D0%9C.%D0%9B.+%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8F/@55.6650459,37.9277052,15.45z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x066abda9098b23b9?hl=ru)

        A half hour to the west would've sufficed! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 10:44:34 AM
        3-я Рыбинская ул, I can read Greek but this is a fucking mess :lol

        Is there no option to switch to English? :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 11:46:18 AM
        And here's the second blurred picture. As I said, there will be no updates tomorrow, so if the thread falls to the second page I hope I can count on you guys to save it.

        (https://i.imgur.com/iKxhflQ.jpg)

        Regarding the 5th and 6th - no, guys, this wasn't banned. Kind of like my Avantasia entry in Brent's. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 11:57:57 AM
        Michael Kiske - New Horizons
        Michael Kiske - Do I Remember a Life?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:02:20 PM
        Almanac - Self-Blinded Eyes
        Almanac - Darkness/Hands Are Tied

        (there goes a possible EP entry)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 12:03:30 PM
        Almanac - Self-Blinded Eyes
        Almanac - Darkness/Hands Are Tied

        (there goes a possible EP entry)

        Well, you and Brent are rather good at cockblocking each other. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
        Neal Young - Like A Hurricane
        Neal Young - After the Gold Rush
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:07:52 PM
        Almanac - Self-Blinded Eyes
        Almanac - Darkness/Hands Are Tied

        (there goes a possible EP entry)

        Well, you and Brent are rather good at cockblocking each other. :biggrin:

        that . . . that's just not right
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 05, 2016, 12:11:20 PM
        Tim Buckley - Sunset Highway & Gravelheart
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:12:15 PM
        Mind Key - Sunset Highway
        Mind Key - Graveheart
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 12:14:53 PM
        Tim Buckley - Sunset Highway & Gravelheart

        Hey, that was a good guess.

        Well there you go, solved in 15 minutes. Now you'll have to wait ~48 hours until the tidbits. :-\
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
        now to match up the entries

        me - sunburst
        brent  - almanac
        loney - tesseract
        seneca - young
        wolfy - mind key
        tac - kiske
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 05, 2016, 12:16:52 PM
        Was going to say Evergrey instead of Tim Buckley first but then realized that couldn't be it :lol but yeah the titles were pretty easy.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:23:37 PM
        Was going to say Evergrey instead of Tim Buckley

        in a way that would have been a VERY good guess
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 12:28:34 PM
        Hahaha, that's true.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:13:44 PM
        wolfy - mind key

        Nailed it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: lonestar on April 05, 2016, 02:33:17 PM
        I had Mind Key on my reserve list for the EP. They should score very well with Ruslan.

        (though I woulda gone with Wish &  Steadiness)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:48:56 PM
        I had Mind Key on my reserve list for the EP. They should score very well with Ruslan.

        (though I woulda gone with Wish &  Steadiness)

        I don't know those songs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 03:08:21 PM
        tac - kiske

        Not sure why you'd say that! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 04:16:32 PM
        tac - kiske

        Not sure why you'd say that! :lol

        So are you saying you didn't send the Kiske?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 04:27:59 PM
        Nope. I'm not saying that! :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 05:04:48 PM
        Nope. I'm not saying that! :P

        .............oh.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: lonestar on April 05, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
        I had Mind Key on my reserve list for the EP. They should score very well with Ruslan.

        (though I woulda gone with Wish &  Steadiness)

        I don't know those songs.

        Oops, crossing my Italian prog metal.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 10:18:26 PM
        I had Mind Key on my reserve list for the EP. They should score very well with Ruslan.

        (though I woulda gone with Wish &  Steadiness)

        I don't know those songs.

        Oops, crossing my Italian prog metal.

        Good, thought I was going crazy.  Haven't heard their first album though, but google didn't help with those song titles.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 05, 2016, 10:20:12 PM
        It's one song name Kade - Secret Sphere.  I came very close to sending them in this roulette more than once.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 10:23:49 PM
        It's one song name Kade - Secret Sphere.  I came very close to sending them in this roulette more than once.

        I own Scent of A Human Desire I think it's called, pretty good album.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2016, 10:28:50 PM
        Italian bands aren't very creative when it comes to band names it seems. Soul Secret, Secret Sphere... is there also an Italian metal band called Soul Sphere?  :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2016, 11:11:21 PM
        I had Mind Key on my reserve list for the EP. They should score very well with Ruslan.

        (though I woulda gone with Wish &  Steadiness)

        I don't know those songs.

        Oops, crossing my Italian prog metal.

        Good, thought I was going crazy.  Haven't heard their first album though, but google didn't help with those song titles.  :lol

        You're not missing much.

        I'd considered Secret Sphere too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 11:26:46 PM
        Good to know.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 05:41:27 AM
        I was also considering Secret Sphere, but just couldn't come up with the right song. I love Michel Luppi. Glad he finally found a band!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 06:39:51 AM
        I was also considering Secret Sphere, but just couldn't come up with the right song. I love Michel Luppi. Glad he finally found a band!

        Yeah - "keyboardist" for Whitesnake  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 07:01:45 AM
        I saw that. WTF?? The guy has an amazing voice.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:03:31 AM
        I saw that. WTF?? The guy has an amazing voice.

        That's what I was getting at with 'keyboardist' -  Coverdale's keyboardists all seem to coincidentally have great singing voices  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. I know my heart says the truth (Blurred pic #1)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 06, 2016, 08:09:53 AM
        Bugger...........I predicted I would get cock blocked this round and there it is (Sunburst - Out of the World and Remedy of My Heart)  :lol   But the two tracks sent are among my least favourite on the album  (7-8 ish for my taste).  Will be interesting to see how they score.

        in that time honored tradition of shitting on your roulette opponents' song selections, those Almanac songs you sent were also not my favorites on that album (although the album is really good).  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 08:16:09 AM
        I wouldn't say 7-8 is "shitting on" your selections - but I did almost immediately regret posting that afterwards , fearing it may be taken the wrong way.  Sorry if it was....it really wasn't necessary to share my thoughts on those songs.

        In the end only one man's opinion matters and he's too busy stuffing around with Avantasia  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 06, 2016, 08:32:37 AM
        it's all in good fun.  But it's funny that often in these threads when you see a song revealed, someone else invariably says "not what I would have sent - songs X, Y, and Z are much better"  :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 08:43:57 AM
        Never heard of Almanac. Checking them out now.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 06, 2016, 09:45:01 AM
        In the end only one man's opinion matters and he's too busy stuffing around with Avantasia  :lol

        Yeah, I'm standing in the line at the entrance. 1:15 until the show.  :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 09:50:23 AM
        Awesome! Have fun, man!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 06, 2016, 10:07:52 AM
        Apparently not everyone is in yet, Kiske just went past us in a bus. Whoa.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 06, 2016, 10:08:59 AM
        WELCOME TO THE FUCKING TOY FACTORY MOTHERFUCKERS
         
        Have fun!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 10:10:06 AM
        Apparently not everyone is in yet, Kiske just went past us in a bus. Whoa.

        (https://por-img.cimcontent.net/cms/data/assets/bin-201408/5f965a7b8d53c046500f830b084ec8bb_600x400.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 06, 2016, 11:05:51 AM
        Seems they're late as usual, the show should've started 5 minutes ago. Merchandise stand was great though, grabbed Swing of Death and City of Heroes there.

        Okay, now I'm off, full report later. :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: lonestar on April 06, 2016, 12:05:42 PM
         :metal :metal :metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. History hexes us (Blurred pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 06, 2016, 03:57:13 PM
        Alright, I'm tired, so full report will come up tomorrow, but here are the bits regarding the setlist - we've got the same one they played in Budapest. No Bob, and his songs went like that: Shelter From the Rain was sung by Tobi, Michael and Amanda (she was doing all the Bob parts); The Great Mystery was Tobi with Eric Martin (he sucked at this song big time - well, he did suck at the whole show, in my opinion); and The Story Ain't Over was Tobi solo. A Restless Heart and the Obsidian Skies wasn't played.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on April 07, 2016, 09:58:19 AM
        Anyway, sorry for my absence yesterday. Tidbits time! This time I'll post only four tidbits, because if I do six, it will be easy to match them with the respective entries.

        (https://i.imgur.com/YxjmZZ9.jpg)

        If there was ever a song that lived up to its respective album name that much in this roulette, this is the one. Great pick.

        I think a lot of people who’s following this thread are waiting for this write-up, so I’ll be careful to not give anything away. However, a certain advantage of these two songs is that I can outright say it’s djent and no one will give me the “idiot, it’s not djent, it’s
        progressive metal with a heavy edge and polyrhythms / mathcore with downtuned guitars / folky black metal with a guitarist who likes to hit the strings in random moments” kind of looks.

        I don’t mean to sound like a pussy, but this might just be a bit too heavy for me. Still, there are some excellent moments in this tune indeed, especially that vocal melodies in the chorus, love them.

        I think my main problem (as of now) with this song is the singer. I can’t seem to get into his voice.
        (Okay Tim, this obviously isn’t your tidbit. :lol )
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: Crow on April 07, 2016, 10:25:47 AM
        I wonder what the second tidbit is about :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on April 07, 2016, 10:32:45 AM
        Regarding the third tidbit, did you listen to my EP yet?? Definitely could be a track on that. I was worried about sending it as I was afraid it'd be too heavy. Might as well get your pussiness out of the way now! ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on April 07, 2016, 10:33:43 AM
        I wonder what the second tidbit is about :neverusethis:

        Righ? Nervous as fuck here...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on April 07, 2016, 10:38:56 AM
        Regarding the third tidbit, did you listen to my EP yet?? Definitely could be a track on that. I was worried about sending it as I was afraid it'd be too heavy. Might as well get your pussiness out of the way now! ;D

        No, I'm all into the Round 7 listening. I did some sneak-peeks into the songs from upcoming rounds before, but I'm not doing that for EP round. I also won't listen to some songs from the EPs separately - only the whole thing as you built it for me.

        Sometimes the heaviness works with me just fine (the intro and the instrumental part of Beyond the Bridge - Doorway to Salvation comes to mind), and sometimes it doesn't (Iris Divine song you sent me).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on April 07, 2016, 10:53:47 AM
        This is way better than Iris Divine.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2016, 02:20:10 PM
        Dunno if mine is there, hopefully not the last one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2016, 03:29:18 PM
        I think my main problem (as of now) with this song is the singer. I can’t seem to get into his voice. [/i](Okay Tim, this obviously isn’t your tidbit. :lol )

        I got a c-note that says this is reserved for Neil Young.  I can't stand his voice.  Not a single song in his solo catalog can I tolerate.  It sure as shit ain't Kiske or Sunburst Ruslan is saying this about.  I don't know the vocals for Almanac or TesseracT, and I'd shart myself if it's for Mind Key.

        Predictions:
        First comment - Kiske
        Second comment - Suburst
        Third comment - TesseracT
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2016, 03:35:53 PM
        I hope you're right.  Neil Young is indeed an acquired taste.  Not a huge fan myself either.  Interesting submission.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 07, 2016, 03:39:29 PM
        That second one is obviously TesseracT, but it's probably the most worthless piece of teasing ever :biggrin: it basically says "you all know this tidbit is about TesseracT, but I'm not going to add anything else".
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 07, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
        Pretty sure that nothing there relates to mine.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on April 07, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
        Predictions:
        First comment - Kiske

        Why would you think that?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2016, 05:48:00 PM
        Predictions:
        First comment - Kiske

        Why would you think that?

        Because the comment wouldn't make sense based on the album titles of the other songs.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on April 07, 2016, 05:49:53 PM
        Predictions:
        First comment - Kiske

        Why would you think that?

        Because the comment wouldn't make sense based on the album titles of the other songs.

        I hope you're right!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: lonestar on April 08, 2016, 07:09:54 AM
         :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on April 08, 2016, 07:48:10 AM
        I'll try my best to churn out the results today, but it's not going to happen in the next few hours. I'd say 5-7 hours from now on is a reasonable guess though.

        Edit: okay, grabbed a beer and I'm about to begin doing the write-ups now.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on April 08, 2016, 11:46:34 AM
         :lol

        Wow, you got through these songs quickly, especially taking a day off.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: Evermind on April 08, 2016, 11:59:30 AM
        Don't forget I've started listening Saturday or something like that.

        Actually, here's a fun fact: I always started listening a day earlier (and sometimes two days earlier, depending on how many tracks I had at the moment) than I said in the thread, just so I could maintain an impression I'm keeping a great pace. :lol When I posted the blurred picture, I was already two or three listens in for the most songs.

        But still, every time I wrote the results I had a good grasp on every entry. I feel I know each song very well know, so I'm doing the results. Simple as that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2016, 12:34:31 PM
        ^ This guy gets it.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. This world is tearing me apart (Tidbits)
        Post by: TAC on April 08, 2016, 12:39:29 PM
        I got a lot of early entries on my roulette, and generally started right away as well. It always seemed like I had half the songs right away, and the other half a day later. I felt like it was actually easier to break things down that way.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 08, 2016, 02:10:44 PM
        And here we go.

        Round 7 Results:

        TAC: Michael Kiske

        Here’s the main cheater of the round. I mean, to send me something Michael Kiske fronted and get away with it is worth a lot, but it’s Tim after all, he probably has some Kiske-related albums I’m not even aware of. I knew Kiske had some solo albums, but for some reason I never bothered to check them out. I was wrong.

        Michael Kiske – New Horizons

        I thought Kiske wrote his solo records to step away from power / heavy metal but apparently this isn’t exactly true, because I can easily see this track being on Keepers or on some Gamma Ray album. The fact Kai Hansen and Adrian Smith co-wrote this track with Kiske isn’t a big surprise, in fact it’s kind of obvious after one listen. I mean, catchy guitar work, catchy verses, catchy chorus, all enveloped into a nice power metal package with trademark Michael’s vocals. I certainly didn’t expect anything like that; I thought this album would be more like mellow rock songs or something.

        While this song doesn’t have many remarkable parts, the moment where Kiske goes into a high-note scream on the background (during the last chorus) stood out to me. I’ve missed it the first time and when I discovered it on the subsequent listens, I was like “whoa, here he goes with that unbelievable thing again”. I love his voice. It’s incredible.

        Overall, this was a very solid song without any absolutely awesome flair, but still, very nice power metal.

        8.5/10

        Michael Kiske – Do I Remember A Life?


        If there was ever a song that lived up to its respective album name that much in this roulette, this is the one. In fact, I think the album’s name is a perfect fit for Kiske’s voice overall, if I had to pick one word to describe it, “clarity” seems like a damn good choice. His voice is always so clear.

        I probably should heavily revise my expectations for this album, because this song also wasn’t what I expected from Kiske solo album. :lol This is a wonderful acoustic ballad with an epic and grandiloquent touch to it, and as you said, it’s very reflective too. It’s definitely an extraordinary track that goes away from the traditional forms of songwriting (especially if you consider it was released in 1996), featuring excellent vocal melodies and some tight acoustic playing, especially on the choruses.

        Then there’s some unexpectedly heavy (for this song) electric guitar transition to the second part, which I think I like slightly less than the first one – I think they got the buildup right but the payoff was somewhat off… and then the quiet piano part compensates it. You said I shouldn’t bail on that last part, and I wasn’t even going to. I loved it from the very first listen; it’s one of the best parts of the song as far as I’m concerned.

        I think this was my favourite song of the round. Nice one, and this should definitely gain you some ground before the EP round.

        9.5/10

        Well, what can I say? I’ll listen to this album. It’s Kiske after all.

        Total score for the round: 18/20


        bl5150: Almanac

        I’ve never heard of this band before, but your description made it sound like they were very awesome. I don’t quite agree, but I definitely think they’re capable of writing some great material. You weren’t among the risk-takers, but at least you didn’t cheat too!

        Almanac – Self-Blinded Eyes

        Let me begin with the statement that this song is great. It has a few standouts I’m going to list here now. First of all, the orchestra (I assume from your message it’s the real one), it sounds great and adds a lot to atmosphere of this song. It’s obvious this song was written with the orchestration in mind, and it works big time. I also think two vocalists are quite discernible, and they add a certain flavour to this song, I like how their voices alternate here. They also got the great melodies here, cool anthemic chorus and intense verses. Oh, and the oriental instrumentation throughout the intro and the solo is curious and adds to the atmosphere just fine. (We’ll get to the guitar solos in the second write-up.)

        I don’t think there is anything I dislike about this song, actually. It’s a great tune all around, proper heavy / power metal as I like it. It lacks something to elevate it to truly amazing – I’m not going to rate it 10/10 like you did, but I think this is a fantastic song… and certainly the best out of the two.

        9/10

        Almanac – Darkness / Hands Are Tied


        This song definitely had to have an instrumental intro. The instances like this one are why I allowed sending those and why I count such sequences as one song. It really adds to the atmosphere and since it has the actual chorus melody in it, it was a must. I’m going to kind of echo Dave here; I don’t see how you can listen to Hands Are Tied without Darkness.

        It’s interesting how the best part of this tune comes first in the very beginning. I’m talking about the “Can’t you see it? Can’t you be heard? Can’t you see it?” section. The intensity is palpable here, and the verses are built up on it too, but the chorus is too anthemic here, and for me it somewhat ruins the pace of this track. Unlike Sunburst – Out of the World, I would’ve preferred this track to stay fast, intense and heavy, not going into the hymn on the chorus.

        So I basically liked some of the track and didn’t really like the choruses (which are a big deal for me), but what finally pushed me to give this song a better score is the guitar solo. The solo on Self-Blinded Eyes felt a bit too short, but this one is indeed better, and while I don’t know shit about soloing, this certainly sounds much more progressive than the rest of the song. I indeed seriously loved this solo.

        So, well, all in all I think this song warrants a good score.

        8.5/10


        This album is definitely on my radar now. Cool stuff.

        Total score for the round: 17.5/20

        Big Hath: Sunburst

        Well, I kind of consider this cheating (although not to a great extent), since I liked Black Fate and I somewhat liked The Chronicles Project. It was a safe bet to say I’ll like the vocals on this one, but the vocals don’t make the song, so all the other arrangements and songwriting still had to be good. Also, how many projects is this guy involved in?

        Sunburst – Out of the World

        This song is a wonder in a sense I’m absolutely in love with some moments and I feel some of the parts aren’t for me at all. I don’t mean to sound like a pussy, but the instrumental parts here might just be a bit too heavy for me. The ever-present pounding guitar riff is grating on my ears. I also feel this song is way too busy instrumental-wise, even when it’s uncalled for. There’s always the fast stuff happening, be that the guitar riff, or layered keyboards, or both. The result is it’s a bit tiresome to listen to this tune. I wish they took a break somewhere, but no, the instrumental part in the middle is heavier than ever, and overall this song is just so relentless it’s bordering on being unenjoyable.

        But for all this critique, this song features some awesome vocal melodies and the vocals themselves are brilliant. This guy really sounds like Khan, and there are some excellent moments in this tune indeed, especially that vocal melodies in the chorus, love them, one of the best melodies in this round. That hook on “this world is tearing me apart” is beyond fantastic, and the rest is very good too.

        I feel I might’ve been too harsh on this song in the first paragraph, because I really enjoyed it anyway… I just think it had a potential to be 9.5, but instead it’s in the Brent’s ranking zone.

        8/10

        Sunburst – Remedy of My Heart


        I know I’ve made Khan comparisons before, but hell, this is like Memento Mori rewritten, especially with the beautiful, longing quiet intro / outro with those haunting and peaceful vocals. Only the band isn’t Kamelot and this isn’t as good as Memento Mori. It’s not something to be ashamed of – few songs are as good as that one – and this is still a great tune.

        Despite being twelve minutes in length, this song feels less busy than Out of the World, and that makes it easier on the ears, which is a big advantage. It also has a grand symphonic epic feel, as opposed to Out of the World, which was expected I suppose. This tune has more pronounced and memorable riffs, less frantic pace and overall I think it’s more well-written, even if it’s somewhat sprawling due to its length. It doesn’t have that incredible payoff moment like Memento Mori (“So subservient in your embrace”) – it does have the payoff moment with “Let me remain forever” with the following guitar solo, but it’s just not Memento Mori-level incredible – and after that it, uh, has something suspiciously sounding like growls in the end. Now that was uncalled for!

        9/10

        That Khan guy is definitely on my radar now, and I think you have a good position for an EP round. You’re sending some very strong songs so far, hopefully you’ll keep it up with your EP!

        Total score for the round: 17/20

        wolfking: Mind Key

        As expected, I’ve never heard about this band, but since they were an Italian prog metal band I was naturally apprehensive. But it turns out they have more balls and more personality than the bands like Kaledon, Wind Rose, (apparently) DGM and Soul Secret, so I thought this was a great entry overall.

        Mind Key – Sunset Highway

        First of the things that stood out to me were the vocals. I really liked the singer here, and he was one of the big reasons I awarded the decent amount of points to this song, he sounds nice with both clean and raspy vocals. I enjoyed the heaviness, I think they’ve got just the right amount of it too; and the usage of keyboards (and perhaps piano too?) was excellent, especially liked those small touches on the verses when the singer applies his clean voice, and of course the short breakdown to the piano part in the middle.

        Overall this was quite a solid progressive metal song, not too generic and quite enjoyable. Heavy riffs, noticeable keyboards, capable singer, cool songwriting… everything here was good. Not great, but good indeed.

        8/10

        Mind Key – Graveheart


        I suspect this is somewhat of the title track on this album? It certainly has that feeling, being heavier, more epic. Feels much more serious too.

        I realized this band reminds me of Evergrey a lot, Tom Englund on the guest vocals or not. Well, they’re not quite on the Borealis level of Evergreyness, but still, they just have the same heavy crushing guitar sound, and the other elements are there too. Of course, when Tom Englund is at the mic in the second verse, they sound too much like Evergrey (and I thought that “Come on come on come on!” part was kinda hilarious). And they have the exact same problem Evergrey does, while I enjoy their songs, I struggle to write anything meaningful about them. Really solid, yep, good chorus, yep, and, uh, that’s it. There also might be a problem your write-ups were the last I had to do, so I might’ve run out of inspiration. Who knows.

        Still, I think this song is even better than Sunset Highway (except the short growl-like parts), so that was definitely a good pick. Also, I assume this is a concept album? Because the ending here is very unusual. It makes me want to resort to violence alright.

        8.5/10

        It seems like you guys finally found the Italian progressive metal band that is up my alley! Will definitely check out these guys further, but since I already have Evergrey and Borealis, I don’t think I’ll be returning to them often. Anyway, two solid songs right here. I think you’ll probably lose your leadership anyway, but you’re in a very good position before the EP round.

        Total score for the round: 16.5/20


        lonestar: TesseracT

        I bet a lot of people who’s following this thread were waiting for this band. Obviously, one certain advantage of these two songs is that I can outright say it’s djent and no one will give me the “idiot, it’s not djent, it’s progressive metal with a heavy edge and polyrhythms / mathcore with downtuned guitars / folky black metal with a guitarist who likes to hit the strings in random moments” kind of looks. However, this isn’t the only advantage of the tracks you sent me in this round.

        TesseracT – Dystopia

        I said I won’t rank the flow in this round, yet you still decided to send me two consecutive songs from the album, this one is flowing seamlessly into the other one. I wonder if you would’ve done better with sending something else instead of this track (maybe Tourniquet or something from another album entirely?), because this track is just unimpressive. Well, when you consider this is actually djent, it’s not that bad, but this track is just falls on the unmemorable side for me.

        My least favourite thing about this track isn’t the weird guitar rhythms, it’s the vocals. Either they’re overproduced and sound too modern and too muddy or he just sings this way on this song. Either way, the vocals here were a huge drawback. The weird guitar rhythms still bothered me, not too much but I don’t think they’re enjoyable either.

        Now, there were some good parts about this song, the calm break in particular and the way the vocals are building up before it, but that’s about it, and for the six minutes in length, this just isn’t enough. I wish they did something spectacular after the calm break, but we get some dull section with very ordinary (and still not-pleasantly-sounding vocals) instead. I don’t think this track stands up on its own at all. It kind of works as a drawn out introduction to the Hexes, but that’s a huge stretch. I like how the calm part at the ends flows into the next song though.

        6/10

        TesseracT – Hexes


        Now that’s another beast entirely. It takes all the good things (and even the not-so-good things) Dystopia featured and turns them into awesomeness mostly, making them work just perfectly in context. Actually, this tune doesn’t even feel like djent – more like some experimental progressive metal – and I guess djent can be essentially called that.

        So, yeah. The calm parts I liked in Dystopia? Hexes is one huge calm part despite the occasional bursts of heaviness, and it appeals to me a lot. The weird rhythms? They’ve turned into a groovy bassline on this one. The overproduced vocals? I feel they’re clearer on this song, and even if there are some effects, they work. Besides, this song offers me the payoffs to the buildups it features – the serene section in the beginning explodes with that amazing “History hexes us” line, and we have another intense part in the end with “Don’t you dare!”. I felt Dystopia lacked direction and focus, and this song has all of it, while being somewhat in my comfort zone musically. This is the kind of djent I can definitely get into.

        8.5/10

        I’m still not convinced about going to their live gig, even after rating one song 8.5 I’m leaning towards not going. If there’s something else you can send me that will persuade me, I’m ready to give it another chance. Anyway, I suspect this round will kill your chances of winning this roulette because of Dystopia score, but you still have a chance to introduce me to more awesome music in the EP round.

        Total score for the round: 14.5/20

        senecadawg2: Neil Young

        This was one of those artists I’ve heard of, but I had no idea what to expect. That was probably for the better, I like going clear into some artist’s discography, and in case I don’t like it, well, I didn’t have any expectations anyway. Just like it happened here…

        Neil Young – After the Gold Rush

        Well, I don’t know if you rushed your entry when you realized you forgot to send, or you genuinely thought I’ll like this, or maybe both… and I think it may sound a bit harsh too, so I’m sorry in advance. I just can’t stand the singer’s voice. Like at all. Not in the “he’s nothing special and too flat and unmemorable” way, but more in “he’s actively annoying” kind of way. I can’t help it, and I tried to get into his voice, since I was actively spinning the songs you’ve sent me – I actually think your songs were the most listened because I was desperately trying to make them click with me, but I only ended up being antagonized against his voice further.

        And since this ballad is driven by his voice, the only redeeming part here was from 2:00. The instrumental part. I really feel awkward to express all that dislike on the artist you seem to like a lot, but that’s just it. Sorry.

        5.5/10

        Neil Young – Like a Hurricane


        Well, hey, this song was definitely better than the other one, at least because it wasn’t too vocal driven and his voice here was actually tolerable for me. However, there was another problem with this song – I’ve found it to be too drawn-out, I think it could use some cuts in the middle. I don’t want to cut the guitar solos much, because they’re the reason I think this song is somewhat great, but I don’t think it should’ve been eight minutes in length. Something like six minutes sounds just fine. Maybe he should’ve cut some guitar solos after all.

        The guitar solos themselves, well, I’m torn on them. On some moments I find myself loving them, and on other moments they’re too chaotic and too raw to my taste. One day I enjoyed them, the other day I spurned them. I definitely think they’re interesting and this is a better way to spend the time in Neil Young song as opposed to his vocals, but sometimes it was still too much for me.

        I thought this song was alright though. Definitely not the reaction you hoped for, but, well, that’s just the way it is.

        7.5/10

        Neil Young was a miss with me, and it’s more than likely you’re out of competition for the first place, but you still have to send me your EP and now that all the pressure is lifted you can basically go with whatever you want.

        Total score for the round: 13/20

        Bands added to banned list:

        Michael Kiske
        Almanac
        Sunburst
        Mind Key
        TesseracT
        Neil Young

        The scoreboard:

        Big Hath - 69
        TAC – 69
        wolfking - 68.5
        bl5150 - 67
        lonestar - 63.5
        senecadawg2 - 62.5
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 08, 2016, 02:11:12 PM
        Round 8: Open: EP Round

        I'm quoting the message I've sent to all participants a week ago about this round. There are no changes, but I've got one more thing to ask you guys. This isn't obligatory, but if you feel like it... when you send your EP, name it. Invent a title for your EP if you can and want to. That's what I always do in other roulettes, inventing some stupid cheesy titles, and I think it would be fun to see what you can come up with. Of course, it's not necessary and if you don't want to, your amazing EP will just be unnamed. :biggrin:

        Anyway, the rules for this round:

        The biggest news for the EP round is that I decided to change the length restrictions on this one. Originally it was from 20 to 30 minutes, but I thought some of you might have longer songs in your library, or more artists, or generally more awesome music to share with me, so now the length limit is from 25 to 35 minutes.

        There are some nuances tied up to the length limit. First of all, your EP will have to meet the requirement about the amount of artists. If your EP is at 25:00 - 30:00 minutes at length, it has to feature at least three different artists / bands. If your EP is in 30:01 - 35:00 range, it has to feature four different artists / bands. You can include multiple songs by one artist in your EP, or you can include more bands than required - it's all allowed as long as your EP fits the bolded parts. Also, if one of EP tracks is shorter than two minutes, it doesn't count towards the amount of artists used in your EP. I also won't rank it out of 20, since it's not an actual song - but if it provides the necessary flow, serving as a cool intro or a nice bridge between songs or a fantastic outro or whatever, it will be counted towards the EP flow points.

        The EP will be rated out of 20. Each song will be rated out of 20, and then the average score will end up being your score for the EP. However, I'll also award the additional points (out of 5) for the EP flow. Those can end up being quite crucial, so make sure your EP doesn't consist of some random songs shuffled together - try to make a theme for it, or try to make it flow. So, 20 points for the actual songs and 5 points for the flow.

        You can use some audio-editing tools like Audacity to make sure your EP fits length-wise and to make it flow better. I would be absolutely fine if you'd cut the unneeded silence between tracks - but you're not allowed to cut the actual parts of the songs. I'm also fine if you use some simple effects like fade-outs or fade-ins to make your EP flow better. But in that case, you'll have to notify me via PM which effects you used and where. If you're simply cutting the silent parts, no need to bother with notifying me.

        The last part but still an important one - that wasn't that important as much as it was convenient to me in the first seven rounds, but now it's crucial - I will only accept the actual audio files for the EP entries. Sorry about that, but this is necessary so I can listen to them everywhere and it's far more convenient anyway, especially if you're going to tinker with the files cutting out the silences and so on. You can pack them all into .rar file or just send them to me via email or upload them to MEGA, it's your choice. But no YouTube links, no Spotify, only the actual files.

        The very last requirement is that you should list all the songs your EP contains in your message so there would be no fuckups on my end. It would be even better if you can provide me the song lengths, but this isn't necessary. Just the band / song names would be fine.

        So I think I covered it all, and I wish you luck in this very last round!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on April 08, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
        Ruslan, I'm glad you liked Do I Remember A Life?. Like I said, it's a TAC Top 3 Song of all time. Kiske is amazing on it.

        Instant Clarity is an awesome album. Lots of variety on it too. Definitely a must for any Kiske fan.

        The follow up, 1999's Readiness For Sacrifice, doesn't even come close. It was around that time that he swore off heavy rock. It is highly mediocre songwriting, though it ends with two MUST HAVES: Easy and Shadowfights. Both tracks are vocally unbelievable and both stand out from the album, as if they came from something else. You should really try and find copies. Actually, I'll email them to you and you can check them out when the roulette is over. I thought about sending one of them with Life, but I wanted a bit of contrast.


         
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 08, 2016, 02:53:33 PM
        Kiske is amazing

        I agree. :biggrin:

        The follow up, 1999's Readiness For Sacrifice, doesn't even come close. It was around that time that he swore off heavy rock.

        Yeah, and then he went on to record The Metal Opera in 2000 as Ernie (which no one bought after they heard the very first vocal note in Reach Out for the Light :lol ). I still think this is hilarious. Tobias rightfully and lightheartedly made fun of him for this at Moscow show. :D

        You should really try and find copies. Actually, I'll email them to you and you can check them out when the roulette is over.

        I'm fine with that. I don't think I can find any of Kiske solo albums here, it's either ordering them through Amazon or getting them through other means which I don't really like to do.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on April 08, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
        The EP's title is kind of long. It's called:

        The TAC EP: A Bunch Of Cool Songs Plus One That Might Be Too Heavy  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Crow on April 08, 2016, 03:19:52 PM
        it shall forever be engraved in history as the day evermind liked one  (but not two) djent songs
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2016, 05:35:15 PM
        Bah. lost my lead.  That Mind Key album is solid though, you'll like it.

        So, we can make the EP 1 file and then just put the song names and timestamps in the description hey Ruslan?

        I'm out now for the weekend, but I'll have a busy Sunday night getting this together and putting my roulette thread together!  :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2016, 08:12:08 PM
        2 points is a tough ask but we'll give it a go.   
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 08, 2016, 08:36:33 PM
        Shit man, I totally didn't see the "more than one band" thing on the EP, and I had a brilliant second half of an album I was gonna send. Now I need to rethink the whole thing. Grrrrrrr......
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2016, 08:55:15 PM
        I should've known better, but still--damn. Neil Young was a risk for sure and it certainly was a bit of a rushed submission, I just never knew his voice could be so dangerous. Hell, even the Canadian hates it...

        Oh well--I'll be working on my EP and send it your way soon.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2016, 09:01:43 PM
        My EP is 34:56  :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2016, 09:24:06 PM
        My EP is 34:56  :biggrin:

        Pfft ... I've sent a song almost that long.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 08, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
        OK, sent. Three bands, nine tracks, totaling just under 30 minutes.

        I titled it "Why The Fuck Didn't RJ Send These Bands Earlier?"


        Rock on bitches. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
        Sent

        4 artists/tracks , pretty much bang on 35 mins. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2016, 10:53:14 PM
        Sent!

        29 minutes of Earth, Wind & Fire.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2016, 11:28:59 PM
        Sent!

        29 minutes of Earth, Wind & Fire.

        Lucky I didn't stick with my original draft (as I have already mentioned in PM to Ruslan) - 30 minutes of Sun , Wind and Rain  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Crow on April 08, 2016, 11:32:46 PM
        Sent!

        29 minutes of Earth, Wind & Fire.
        nothing off Water though?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 08, 2016, 11:34:28 PM

        I’m still not convinced about going to their live gig, even after rating one song 8.5 I’m leaning towards not going. If there’s something else you can send me that will persuade me, I’m ready to give it another chance. Anyway, I suspect this round will kill your chances of winning this roulette because of Dystopia score, but you still have a chance to introduce me to more awesome music in the EP round.

        tourniquet
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 09, 2016, 03:35:34 AM
        So, we can make the EP 1 file and then just put the song names and timestamps in the description hey Ruslan?

        Sure thing, just make sure the names and timestamps are correct. :tup

        Shit man, I totally didn't see the "more than one band" thing on the EP, and I had a brilliant second half of an album I was gonna send. Now I need to rethink the whole thing. Grrrrrrr......

        Well if you could send only one artist, there would've been more or less no point in rating the flow separately. At least it wouldn't have been that interesting.

        I'll check out all the songs eligibility and artists / length requirements to be met in a few minutes, then let you all know via PM / e-mails.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2016, 05:13:14 AM
        Re: Vasilis Georgiou (Khan impersonator), the only other project he's in is Innosense, and I'd consider that the 4th best of the bunch.  Chronicles>Black Fate=Sunburst>Innosense.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: lonestar on April 09, 2016, 06:57:46 AM
        On a side note, go see TesseracT. I guarantee they will blow you away man.




        Take a chance, trust me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2016, 07:08:54 AM
        On a side note, go see TesseracT. I guarantee they will blow you away man.




        Take a chance, trust me.

        Above all else... trust lonestar - it's worked out without fail for me in the past.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on April 09, 2016, 07:42:51 AM
        Not sure I'm into Tesseract, but I do bet it'd be a great live experience.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 09, 2016, 08:05:21 AM
        I've not had good experiences with the more modern djenty bands in concerts.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 09, 2016, 08:11:10 AM
        So you're saying he should go see Meshuggah right?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 09, 2016, 11:17:12 AM
        Well, I'm getting paid this week, so I may consider getting a ticket... but I may consider getting just a few more CDs for that money in the local record store. I've got a few in mind I saw last time but couldn't quite afford for the monthly budget.

        Anyway, I've got four eligible EPs now, so I think I'll just delve into some of them right now. Tomorrow will be a busy day for me, not sure if I will be able to do any listening then, so I guess the official listening will begin at Monday. I'm not going to give any promises on the blurred pictures / tidbits / results schedule this time, because it's likely I'll get more than 3 hours of music to digest, but I'll do my best to keep the thread alive in the meantime.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 09, 2016, 11:50:47 PM
        EP has been sent!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 10, 2016, 04:55:08 AM
        Someone sent Frampton?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: wolfking on April 10, 2016, 05:06:58 AM
        EP sent.

        Literally put it together in about half an hour.  Just solid metal throughout.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 10, 2016, 12:16:45 PM
        Alright, I'm uploading all the EPs on my phone and I will start the extensive listening tomorrow. Meanwhile, here are the EP titles! Take a look at what we have here...

        The TAC EP: A Bunch Of Cool Songs Plus One That Might Be Too Heavy
        The Empty Hollow
        Not Quite As Heavy As It Could Have Been EP, aka The Evermind is Awesome (sung to the tune of the Lego Movie song Everything Is Awesome) EP
        Earth, Wind & Fire
        Why The Fuck Didn't RJ Send These Bands Earlier?
        Off the Metal Cuff EP

        I didn't mention this, but the coolness of your EP title will matter towards the EP flow points. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Crow on April 10, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
        you have all these really goody EP names, and then "The Empty Hollow"  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: TAC on April 11, 2016, 04:36:28 AM
        Can't wait to see what everyone sent!

        While I do envy Ruslan for getting a shit ton of awesome music, I would think grading 6 half hour long EPs would be quite daunting.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Bolsters on April 11, 2016, 04:37:46 AM
        I'm not sure I would ever do an EP round. Maybe if there were only two or three people, but certainly not six.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Can someone show me the way? (Results)
        Post by: Evermind on April 11, 2016, 05:09:52 AM
        I'll be fine. ;) Listening at work helps a lot, I'm sure I will be able to at least spin each EP at least once a day, some days more often. I got through three EPs now and I've got three more hours of work ahead of me, so I'll just keep spinning them. I'll also try to do some interesting (I think) stuff in this thread to keep it active.

        But for now I'm in full listening mode and I'll post the first blurred picture this evening. You've got a lot of songs to guess this time. :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 11, 2016, 12:07:59 PM
        Regarding the schedule - as I said, I'm able to listen to your EPs at work (I'm getting through each EP once a day), and I'm also spending ~90 minutes to get to work and another ~90 minutes to get back. Since it's not that convenient to switch tracks during the travel, I'm ending up spinning each EP about three times per travel. I've got five working days and I decided I'll go to work at Saturday too - I've got six EPs and that's a perfect opportunity for me to give each EP a good amount of listens (as well as get some OT money). So I will be listening to each EP one time a day and one EP will get another five or six listens each day. (I've already got through one EP this way and I think I know it pretty well.) This way each EP will get about 10 listens and I think I will be able to comfortably rate them on Sunday, so that's our schedule I guess!

        Meanwhile, I'll try to keep you entertained in this thread. First, have this blurred picture. Since grading 6 half hour long EPs is daunting, you get the daunting blurred picture. I've lumped all the songs into the list, randomized them, did a few tweaks with random order so the songs by the same band were posted together and the epics were ending the columns and here's what we have:

        (click on the pic to enlarge it if you need)

        (https://i.imgur.com/CxwYoJl.jpg)

        Next pictures will have the songs sorted, but for now just have fun guessing the songs and thinking who sent what. If you can, don't use Google and Spotify and whatever. I've made some songs easier to guess than others, so I think this should work.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 11, 2016, 12:18:30 PM
        Pyramid Theorem - Another Day Slips By ??
        Bob Catley : Children of the Circle??
        Secret Sphere: Wish & steadiness
        Black Tora: Fuel My Hunger
        Black Majesty: Firestorm
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: Crow on April 11, 2016, 12:28:13 PM
        Top of the second list is two Thrice songs, the second is A Song for Milly Michaelson, can't make out the first though

        there are also the last three tracks from Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain, this is seneca's EP clearly  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2016, 12:33:12 PM
        Yeah, I saw that Pyramid Theorem too.

        Think I also see:
        Soundgarden
        Hibria - Millenium Quest
        Sun Caged is the second 'suite' - Ashtamangala

        Will look some more later if I can.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 11, 2016, 12:37:23 PM
        Pathosray-The Sad Game
        I actually had Scent Of Snow on my first EP draft.

        Dave Matthew's Band??
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2016, 12:39:59 PM
        Pathosray-The Sad Game
        I actually had Scent Of Snow on my first EP draft.

        Dave Matthew's Band??

        Killer tune... would be the one I'd use if/when I ever use Pathosray in a Roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 11, 2016, 12:44:06 PM
        Yeah it is. It has a much different feel than the rest of the album. In fact, it reminds me a bit of Circus Maximus. I even PM'd Ruslan about his thoughts on CM, and he basically rolled his eyes at me. :lol  So I ended up replacing the track.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 11, 2016, 12:44:42 PM

        Killer tune... would be the one I'd use if/when I ever use Pathosray in a Roulette.

        Somebody took up your Italian power metal challenge  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: Scorpion on April 11, 2016, 12:47:50 PM
        seneca, from what I can see that is a ballsy EP. I don't think I would ever dare sending Evermind Agalloch.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 11, 2016, 12:52:45 PM
        I think I see Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence there, who is this mystery person?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
        The Soundgarden track is called Fresh Tendrils from Superunknown.

        Bob Catley : Children of the Circle??

        Yes.

        The top two on the right is Thrice.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
        I see Black Majesty in there too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 11, 2016, 02:54:39 PM
        seneca, from what I can see that is a ballsy EP. I don't think I would ever dare sending Evermind Agalloch.

         :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2016, 02:55:16 PM
        seneca, from what I can see that is a ballsy EP. I don't think I would ever dare sending Evermind Agalloch.

         :tup

        When you're in 6th place, there's nothing to lose!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
        I see Black Majesty in there too.

        Yep, Brent mentioned the right song too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2016, 03:24:39 PM
        I see Black Majesty in there too.

        Yep, Brent mentioned the right song too.

        Ah... I missed him editing his post.  I thought that one of the songs was Secret Sphere, but somehow gapped out on recognizing the title.  Whoever sent it did so from their best album, that's for sure.

        Lots of recycling from my roulette.  Geez people, get original will ya!   :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2016, 03:31:00 PM
        We're running out of shit bro!  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 11, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
        We're running out of shit bro!  :lol

        Yup!
        This giant pyramid scheme will shortly grind to a halt.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2016, 03:43:37 PM
        We're running out of shit bro!  :lol

        Yup!
        This giant pyramid scheme will shortly grind to a halt.

         :'(
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 11, 2016, 04:22:17 PM
        seneca, from what I can see that is a ballsy EP. I don't think I would ever dare sending Evermind Agalloch.

         :tup

        When you're in 6th place, there's nothing to lose!

        Until you're in a winning position, there's nothing to lose.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: TAC on April 11, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
        He knows. He knows.

         ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2016, 04:58:04 PM
        He knows. He knows.

         ;D

        (https://replygif.net/i/423.gif)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: Luoto on April 12, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
        there are also the last three tracks from Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain, this is seneca's EP clearly  :lol
        Except the first one is Birch Black, a short track off The White EP
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Charred birds escape from the ruins (Pic #1)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 12, 2016, 09:47:29 AM
        Waiting for Evermind's comments on Bloodbirds :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 12, 2016, 12:14:45 PM
        Except the first one is Birch Black, a short track off The White EP

        :tup

        Waiting for Evermind's comments on Bloodbirds :corn

        Well, you'll have to wait some more!

        The listening is coming along soundly. Very busy day at work though, I'm quite tired so I've managed to compose this batch of blurred pictures, now I'm going to send something in Bolsters' and just go to sleep. Anyway, now the songs are sorted by EPs (in order too), and the guessed ones are visible. Have fun guessing the rest and who send which EP! (obviously I didn't include EP names in those)

        (https://i.imgur.com/JbaDNBr.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/CjyaFMXl.jpg)

        (https://i.imgur.com/Ya3DHPf.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Gsh6sh4.jpg)

        (https://i.imgur.com/P9RUP3U.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/zgDOD8B.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: Crow on April 12, 2016, 12:19:37 PM
        the other thrice is come all you weary
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 12:21:57 PM
        Nice.  Soulspell was on my list of possibilities too.  I'll be interested to see who sent that.

        I think I see Shadowquest in there too.  Heard of them, but don't know them.

        Labyrinth - good call.
        Eden's Curse... how was that not banned?

        Might look harder later, and try to guess who's who.  I'll guess bottom right is RJ
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 12:29:28 PM
        Nice.  Soulspell was on my list of possibilities too.  I'll be interested to see who sent that.

        Labyrinth - good call.
        Eden's Curse... how was that not banned?
        Shadowquest and Lords of the Trident - jeez, you guys really are recycling your bands, aren't you!

        Might look harder later.

        As for who's who... I'll guess bottom right is RJ; and the one with Sun Caged is probably Big Hath.  Catley/Black Majesty has to be Kade; we know Agalloch/Thrice is Seneca; Pathosray/Labyrinth I'll say is Brent; Guaranteed Tim is the Hibria/Lords of the Trident... cuz he gave me those in mine!


        Edit - I quoted myself in err, instead of modifying the above post.  That's why they look the same.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: lonestar on April 12, 2016, 01:27:42 PM
        You are le wrong.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 01:30:24 PM
        You are le wrong.

        No shit.  Well, then swap you and Jon - since he sent me Black Tora in my roulette, and you put me on to Secret Sphere.

        Mother fucker... first two songs are Stargate.  You're definitely the top left.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
        Innerwish - Rain of A Thousand Years is in there too, good stuff.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 12, 2016, 03:11:14 PM

        As for who's who... I'll guess bottom right is RJ; and the one with Sun Caged is probably Big Hath.  Catley/Black Majesty has to be Kade; we know Agalloch/Thrice is Seneca; Pathosray/Labyrinth I'll say is Brent; Guaranteed Tim is the Hibria/Lords of the Trident... cuz he gave me those in mine!


        You're right on mine.

        I mentioned I had Pathosray on my first draft, and I was also going through some Labyrinth stuff as well.

        I actually had a different Hibria tune on my first draft. Was going to send Screaming Ghost. But Millenium Quest has such an awesome instrumental part.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: lonestar on April 13, 2016, 12:27:35 AM
        You are le wrong.

        No shit.  Well, then swap you and Jon - since he sent me Black Tora in my roulette, and you put me on to Secret Sphere.

        Mother fucker... first two songs are Stargate.  You're definitely the top left.

         :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 12:37:54 AM
        Looks like Kade has Trivium : The Darkness of My Mind

        And yeah........it's me with the Italian assault (Pathosray and Labyrinth)

        How could I resist? :)


        Protip to everyone - stay away from Italian Power Metal
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: lonestar on April 13, 2016, 12:56:44 AM
        Seems none of us heeded that advice. I sent two Italian prog/power bands. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 05:15:52 AM
        Looks like Kade has Trivium : The Darkness of My Mind

        (https://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/Wink-animated-gif.gif?gs=a)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 13, 2016, 05:24:51 AM
        Listening to this song right now. What does he sing in the chorus? "My bizarre design"? "My sesai besai"? I can't make it out and it drives me insane.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 05:31:02 AM
        The darkness of my mind
        Where life and death divide
        The ending of mankind
        Demise is our design
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My mind is so full of hate and anger (Pic #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 13, 2016, 05:33:09 AM
        Demise is our design? Wow, I didn't heard that at all. I'll pay attention when this song comes up again.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: Evermind on April 13, 2016, 01:06:44 PM
        Here are the revealing pictures. I didn't add the names of the players to the EPs, but Chad pretty much got them all right on the second try. I added something else for you to be interested in... and the first part of tidbits will be up tomorrow.

        (https://i.imgur.com/hRPlvyg.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/IT6TiDC.jpg)

        (https://i.imgur.com/5LtG790.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/rQxNEIJ.jpg)

        (https://i.imgur.com/SjjKu5S.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/zi8ddbp.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 13, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
        What are those...?

        ETA: maybe favorite and least favorite track from each EP?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 01:15:24 PM
        When you said someone sent an EP called EP Empty Hollow, Rage instantly came to mind.  I didn't think they'd send that suite though.  Good long song though.

        Interesting to see what the dots mean.  Two favs I reckon.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2016, 01:35:00 PM
        Thank god they're not stars!

        (https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--kc6Mdn9Z--/ikyadbljtrstkvr8c85y.jpg)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: TAC on April 13, 2016, 02:13:03 PM
        What are those...?

        ETA: maybe favorite and least favorite track from each EP?

        That is exactly what they are. For my EP, Nightmare World is his favorite, and as expected, Hibria is his least favorite.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: TAC on April 13, 2016, 02:29:42 PM
        I'm in trouble. None of my lyrics have been in the thread title.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 13, 2016, 02:48:35 PM
        if that is the indication, Agalloch is running away with this round (!)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 13, 2016, 03:42:11 PM
        As they should
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 05:04:44 PM
        If one of those is least favourite then I am happy with that .
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: Evermind on April 14, 2016, 03:20:20 AM
        I'm in trouble. None of my lyrics have been in the thread title.

        Well, "v. See my commands! Follow them all!" would look kind of silly. :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: TAC on April 14, 2016, 04:56:34 AM
        I'm in trouble. None of my lyrics have been in the thread title.

        Well, "v. See my commands! Follow them all!" would look kind of silly. :D
        :lol

        No it wouldn't!
         :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 14, 2016, 05:44:49 AM
        Wow, didn't realize this one was already in the final round, you're looking to finish the roulette within the 2 month timeframe since the first real round opened and I don't think a single day went by without at least one post here.  :tup

        Meanwhile Genowyn's roulette is still going on, which started almost 3 months ago :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2016, 06:04:56 AM
        This guy knows how to run a roulette.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2016, 06:14:47 AM
        Wow, didn't realize this one was already in the final round, you're looking to finish the roulette within the 2 month timeframe since the first real round opened and I don't think a single day went by without at least one post here.  :tup

        Meanwhile Genowyn's roulette is still going on, which started almost 3 months ago :lol

        Exactly how it should be run.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: Evermind on April 14, 2016, 09:50:42 AM
        Thank you guys. :tup

        Just got home, will post the tidbits a few hours later. There will be two kinds of tidbits. The song-related tidbits will be posted today, and the EP-related tidbits will be posted tomorrow. I'll try to do something that may be fun at Saturday; and Sunday will be the results day almost certainly. I might have a certain real-life business on Sunday, but I'll try to churn out the results anyway. The listening is going as planned - I feel I'm quite familiar with four EPs out of six, which means I'm right on schedule so far.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: Scorpion on April 14, 2016, 11:04:02 AM
        seneca, that is a sexy EP. You'd probably get something like a 9/10 from me for that, mainly because I'm not a huge fan of Birch Black.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See my commands! Follow them all! (Tidbits #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 14, 2016, 11:32:07 AM
        Okay, just because Tim asked nicely... :biggrin:

        Anyway, here are the song-related tidbits. One tidbit per EP. Some of those are pretty obvious, but why not. :lol

        This song reminds me – don’t laugh – of Gamma Ray with growls. The vocalist singing clean totally sounds like Kai Hansen, and the growls add that Ensiferum-like feel. I wonder what were you thinking when you sent this one.

        And don’t get me wrong, the instrumentation here is wonderful, I especially appreciate the slow, melodic electric guitar soloing both in the intro and the instrumental part, and it’s also nice how the rest is mostly acoustic guitar and vocals and some keyboards creating the musical landscapes. But the thing is, the vocals are bordering on annoying for me here, and the vocal melodies actually are annoying, and this doesn’t bode well with this song’s score.

        So as I said, it just happened that my first listen to all the EPs took place at work, and I wasn’t quite familiar with any of the tracklists at the moment. When I’m able to listen to the music at work I’m usually quite immersed in what I’m doing, and sometimes if the music itself is dull enough, I may end up not registering anything I’ve hearing. But when I was listening to this one, I found I’m growing less attentive to what I’m working on; and I’ve paid more and more attention to this song instead, but I had no idea what I’m listening to. And at some point I thought
        “wow, this is just fantastic, but when will the vocals come in?” So naturally I checked my phone to see which band was currently playing, and immediately I thought “Oh shit! I take that back! Please don’t let the vocals come in!” :lol

        What really sold me on this song was the interplay in the end, where the most memorable line from the chorus was alternating with the softer line over some tasteful riffage going on. They’ve managed to project quite an interesting vibe here.

        I won’t lie, this is probably the most difficult song for me to get into. Maybe that’s because your EP is still down there in the rotation – I’m planning to give it those ~6 more listens on the road tomorrow – but so far I’m on four listens to your EP overall and I’m drawing a total blank on this song. I daresay this isn’t a good sign at all…

        Now, I know I said this before in this very roulette, and this time I was prepared since I’ve heard this singer even before I did this roulette – but it doesn’t really help this guy sounds like he’s throwing up, or as Chad would put it, “got a little twerp in his mouth”.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See my commands! Follow them all! (Tidbits #1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
        Not much there that's positive and I am struggling to figure out what relates to mine  :blush  Maybe the growls (yes , I sent growls :lol ) but I can't say Kai Hansen came to mind for me.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See my commands! Follow them all! (Tidbits #1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 14, 2016, 11:43:58 AM
        The third one just has to be Agalloch based on prejudices of mine, I haven't heard too much but the song I got in my roulette had really pretty instrumentation too, and black metal growls

        If that one is just a 'tidbit' I can't wait for my phone to explode when the full results will be posted.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See my commands! Follow them all! (Tidbits #1)
        Post by: Crow on April 14, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
        yeah the third is def  Agalloch  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See my commands! Follow them all! (Tidbits #1)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 14, 2016, 01:30:52 PM
        Yeah but it doesn't reveal anything about how he felt when the vocals finally did come in. Tricky, tricky  :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See my commands! Follow them all! (Tidbits #1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
        Hard to read much into those honestly.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Dying bloodbirds pooling, feeding the flood (#3)
        Post by: TAC on April 15, 2016, 05:28:16 AM
        This guy knows how to run a roulette.

        Yes he does!

        And nice thread title! :tup  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 15, 2016, 09:45:31 AM
        Hard to read much into those honestly.

        Yeah, well, I know. I can't make them too spoilery, because I don't want to give any significant hints towards the outcome. I have a lot to say both about the songs and about the EPs, I really do, but I can't put almost anything of it in the tidbits without revealing my feelings about the songs.

        Same with the second batch of tidbits. I think it's quite easy to figure out which tidbit is related to which EP, so I have to err on the side of caution here. But it's only two more days to wait, so you'll just have to bear with me.

        Maybe I should've abandoned the tidbits idea for the EP round, but then I wouldn't have had enough content to post here on a daily basis, not with the work interfering.

        Anyway, the EP-related tidbits:

        It’s also very energetic and somewhat varied despite mostly done in one style. There’s at least one song on your EP I’m not too fond of, but, ironically, it will give you some additional points, because it’s essential to the overall flow, in my opinion. I just wish you found a better song to fill that spot.

        I can see why this happened, but still, to me it sounds like this EP has two intro tracks, and while the first one is very well-done and fitting, the second one is clearly unnecessary; and it appears after a full-fledged song which makes it even more baffling in regards to the flow.

        I feel like you just took the first metal tracks that came to your mind and dumped them into an EP – and you probably did exactly this – but it works surprisingly well. The outcome is quite consistent and solid.

        This was definitely the oddest EP genre-wise (alright, I don’t know what to write in the tidbit so you would be unable to determine it’s the Nelson’s EP because his EP is just so different from everything else I received here), but I like how well-thought out it is. From the certain atmosphere in each section to the interesting decisions regarding the flow and the song lengths, it’s obvious you put a good amount of effort into this, and I think it works.

        “Have probably taken the concept of the ‘flow’ to ridiculous lengths with this”? Yeah, no kidding! :lol I mean, I expected anything but a concept EP with the similar music themes and a bloody story to go along with it. And you pulled this off with using several different artists, no less! I’m impressed.

        Your EP is the only one I’m not familiar enough yet – will be heavily listening to it tomorrow, so I’m not sure I can give you any adequate comment regarding it. It definitely isn’t the best in terms of the flow, but this isn’t necessarily a bad thing because the competition in that department is ridiculous this time.

        And nice thread title! :tup  :lol

        It actually worked better than I assumed! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 15, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
        That second to last tidbit is really interesting and sounds very ambitious. Cool idea
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 15, 2016, 12:46:47 PM
        I am afraid I own the 5th tidbit in the first post and the 1st tidbit in the second post. I can see the fawning over Kade's EP here. I hope I didn't blow the whole thing on one song. Damn. So close...
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 15, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
        I am afraid I own the 5th tidbit in the first post and the 1st tidbit in the second post.

        You're second-guessing yourself so much it's painful to watch. :lol I'm willing to say you've got one of these guesses right.

        And with that, I'm off to sleep. Watch out for this thread tomorrow.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 15, 2016, 01:12:04 PM
        Dammit Evermind!

        My body is not well.  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 04:29:39 PM
        I feel like you just took the first metal tracks that came to your mind and dumped them into an EP – and you probably did exactly this – but it works surprisingly well. The outcome is quite consistent and solid.

        This has to be mine.  And if it is, that's exactly what I did.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 10:17:11 AM
        I feel like you just took the first metal tracks that came to your mind and dumped them into an EP – and you probably did exactly this – but it works surprisingly well. The outcome is quite consistent and solid.

        This has to be mine.  And if it is, that's exactly what I did.

        Yeah, this is your tidbit. No surprise.

        I'm working on something (not the results) regarding this roulette that should be done in ~three hours or earlier. Actually, there are two "somethings", and I think both of them are quite interesting, but that would be up to you to decide.

        And yeah, results tomorrow. No particular timeframe yet, but as I said, I've got something to do in the morning IRL, so definitely not morning / early afternoon.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: TAC on April 16, 2016, 12:20:56 PM
         :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Standing tall, we worship the night (Tidbits #2)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 01:57:16 PM
        Sorry, didn't manage that thing in time, but I'm still on it. Just need one more hour to send the PMs and all.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 02:49:02 PM
        Alright, so here are the two updates I promised you.

        Six days in a row listening to your EPs... this could be daunting indeed. That's why today, after work, I took the time to listen to some of your previous entries, starting from the qualifiers and going to the Round 7, revisiting them, and I decided to put together a double album from your best entries. If you were actively participating in the thread or in this roulette, you should get a PM with the album included. The tracklist is as follows (tracks from EPs aren't included):

        Evermind's Roulette (2CD)

        CD1:

        01. Flash Point (6:22)   [My Soliloquy / lonestar]
        02. Still Alive (4:03)   [Nocturnal Rites / wolfking]
        03. Landfill (4:22)   [Daughter / Tomislav95]
        04. Broken Wings (5:26)   [Forgotten Tales / TAC]
        05. The Bitter Suite IV and V: The Congregation and the Sermon in the Silt (5:41)   [The Dear Hunter / Train of Naught]
        06. Paranoid Circus (4:05)   [Lyriel / ErHaO]
        07. Painted Skies (6:10)   [Midnight / bl5150]
        08. Last Chance (6:53)   [Shooting Star / TAC]
        09. Self-Blinded Eyes (6:01)   [Almanac / bl5150]
        10. Moonhorse (8:42)   [Avatarium / Big Hath]
        11. The Idol (8:40)   [W.A.S.P. / wolfking]
        12. Pride (The Warrior's Way) (9:47)   [Damnation Angels / jingle.boy]

        Total length: 1:16:12

        CD2:

        13. Psychopomp (5:17)   [The Tea Party / wolfking]
        14. Handcuffs (4:11)   [Brand New / Tyrias]
        15. The Lonely View of Condors (6:15)   [Sieges Even / Dr. DTVT]
        16. Time Immemorial (4:29)   [Marketa Irglova / Sacul]
        17. Mermaids From Their Moons (5:24)   [Vision Divine / TAC]
        18. The Bold Move (6:36)   [Dead Lord / TAC]
        19. Black and White World (8:03)   [Redemption / Tomislav95]
        20. Rhyme of the False Orchestra (5:00)   [Black Fate / bl5150]
        21. Winter (5:42)   [Tori Amos / senecadawg2]
        22. The Bonding (15:26)   [Edenbridge / Bolsters]

        Total length: 1:06:23

        I'm not sure if anyone will be interested in that, but I know I would certainly be interested. This is what I'm missing in every roulette, so I decided to bring it to life.



        Anyway, let's move to the second part. The thread is getting dull - which is expected, since I don't have a lot of updates left (the double album was the last update before the results), and we're still about ~22 hours away from the results, so I think I've got to do something. And here's the deal: any of you can ask me one question regarding anything roulette-related, be that the Finals scoring, the songs in Round 8, anything. I promise to answer truthfully. But everything isn't that simple, there are two essential things:


        I don't know if anyone will be interested in doing that, but I'm giving you an opportunity to shed some light on the upcoming results... if you do it subtly and carefully enough.

        In other news, results tomorrow (I know I said that before, but it really doesn't hurt to repeat that).
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 02:54:40 PM
        what was your least favorite song in the entire roulette, including the EP round?  :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 03:02:27 PM
        what was your least favorite song in the entire roulette, including the EP round?

        That's a good one.

        Including the qualifies? Easily Native Construct - Mute. That one sucked. Ka-ra-zu Ni-mu-pa-tu my ass.

        Not including the qualifiers, I think Beyond Twilight - Shadowland. I actually listened to this one again as I typed the answer, and wow, I wish I didn't - I disliked it even more than in the respective round. Jorn sounds like he's actually throwing up there, and to be honest, I think 5.5 was too generous for that song. Nothing in the EP round was as bad as that one. Even that Slaughter song is better.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 03:06:50 PM
        oh man and mute's one of the better songs on that album too  :lol
        come hell or high water would probably kill you
        but yeah the album isn't stellar or anything, the people who say it doesn't stop getting better after repeated listens are insane
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 16, 2016, 03:08:44 PM
        Thanks for the PM; I'll report back later :)

        Fire up some good questions, participants! (If I read correctly everybody is only allowed ONE question, right?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 03:09:23 PM
        Fire up some good questions, participants! (If I read correctly everybody is only allowed ONE question, right?

        Yeah, everyone is allowed only one question. Which means you too are allowed one question. ;)

        Edit: I'm there for one more hour. After that, I'm going to sleep, so if there'll be any questions after that, I'll answer them tomorrow morning.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 16, 2016, 03:20:05 PM
        Got my copy in the PM aswell :metal not sure if I can handle over 2 hours of evermind music though, the very first song on the first disc was probably my least favorite of all the songs I checked out in this roulette :lol I remember being really annoyed by that riff and it never stopped.

        oh man and mute's one of the better songs on that album too  :lol
        come hell or high water would probably kill you
        but yeah the album isn't stellar or anything, the people who say it doesn't stop getting better after repeated listens are insane
        1. Agreed
        2. Yep, though I've grown to like it a lot apart from that fucking high pitched voice part, wtf.
        3. I don't get the pretty much universal praise it gets amongst the modern prog fanbase either. I love the album, and since it was the first of its kind to me it made it seem a lot more special, but I don't understand why people who have listened to BTBAM, Haken and the like for years suddenly go apeshit over this one.


        Here's my question: How much points is a pearl star? :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
        Got my copy in the PM aswell :metal not sure if I can handle over 2 hours of evermind music though, the very first song on the first disc was probably my least favorite of all the songs I checked out in this roulette :lol I remember being really annoyed by that riff and it never stopped.

        I'd say try it (duh, obviously I'll say this after all the time I spent to put it together). There are a lot of awesome stuff, and you can always skip the song if it annoys you. The whole double album is very diverse, and besides, you don't have to put any effort to get it.

        Oh, and I just realized I have no idea which riff you're talking about. Simply can't re-ca-a-a-a-all. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIPo9fRkex0&feature=youtu.be&t=3m55s) :lol

        Here's my question: How much points is a pearl star? :neverusethis:

        More points than bronze star, but less points than diamond star. And I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. Dave, confirm this if you can. :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: TAC on April 16, 2016, 03:34:41 PM
        Double album idea is awesome. Wil grab when I get home from vacation.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 03:43:59 PM
        Double album idea is awesome. Wil grab when I get home from vacation.

        When I came up with this idea (it was on Wednesday when I was on the train), I just knew I had to do it. I had so much fun thinking it through, making it coherent and making sure the flow would be at least acceptable. I'm really satisfied with what I've put together.

        Just don't forget it's really diverse. Some of the tracks may put you off. But you will finally hear the perfect transition between Landfill and Broken Wings! I really thought that was one huge progressive rock/metal track back in Round 6. :lol I'm still amazed how seamlessly they flow into each other despite being from two quite different genres.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: TAC on April 16, 2016, 03:48:02 PM
        Double album idea is awesome. Wil grab when I get home from vacation.

         I'm still amazed how seamlessly they flow into each other

        Just like The TAC EP!

        :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 16, 2016, 03:51:20 PM
        So glad Marketa made it to the double album, Ev - now you'll hopefully not forget to check her stuff, only two beautiful albums  :smiley:

        The album idea sounds awesome, kind of like a shorter version of my "best of roulette" playlist. I might copy you this idea, but making single albums or EPs with a theme or something. Or maybe I'll forget because exams :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 03:52:34 PM
        i'll probably make a single-disc best-of my roulette when i do my second roulette now, yeah

        in 2017
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 03:57:09 PM
        See, I'm that inspiring! First blurred pictures, now this. :lol

        The idea behind making that double album was to appeal to the lazy participants / followers like me. If you just provide me the tracklist, there's no way I'm going to check any song out from it. However, if you approach me with a link to the song - or, in my case, the link to the full album archived - I'll be much more willing to give it a shot. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that way, hence what I did here.

        As I said, I wish other roulette hosts did something like that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 16, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
        Parama's best of roulette

        1. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        2. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        3. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        4. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        5. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        6. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        7. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        8. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
        9. Dream Theater - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)


        Total length: 1:02:51
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 03:59:39 PM
        yeah, i'm listening to the roulette album now and reviewing all the songs because i can

        i'm skipping handcuffs when i get around to it tho, but maybe not because it's great
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 04:01:13 PM
        In an exclusive interview about why he composed such a "best of" album, Parama said:

        Quote
        well I just decided not to bother and include bmubmd nine times because who cares anyway  :lol

        yeah, i'm listening to the roulette album now and reviewing all the songs because i can

        i'm skipping handcuffs when i get around to it tho, but maybe not because it's great

        I'm not sure you'll last until Handcuffs actually. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 04:03:51 PM
        oh please, this is a cakewalk compared to the slog of a playlist i have to listen to on another site
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 04:05:15 PM
        oh please, this is a cakewalk compared to the slog of a playlist i have to listen to on another site

        Yeah, you actually have a skip button you can use here.

        Edit: Well, in fact, I think you'll like some of the songs. Landfill, Moonhorse, The Dear Hunter one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 16, 2016, 04:05:38 PM
        The Oranssi Pazuzu Forums do song roulettes too ?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 16, 2016, 04:06:34 PM
        Awesome idea--I can't wait to listen to it. I'm only familiar with a handful of those artists and only a couple of the songs.

        I'd ask a question about the results but I'm on the run now and probably won't be back to the forums until after the results are posted anyways.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
        The Oranssi Pazuzu Forums do song roulettes too ?
        okay but i actually was listening to oranssi pazuzu his morning  :lol
        but no it's actually a mafia (the game) site that's been doing this monthly song contest thing forever and there's occasionally a really good song so i still keep joining them even though it's mostly crap
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 04:09:44 PM
        So are you playing mafia there or is it just about song contests?

        Actually, maybe we should run a DTF mafia in General Discussion. Was it ever done? I'm kinda new here so I don't know.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 04:14:25 PM
        i did and sometimes still do play mafia there but between a combination of not having the time and getting a little bored of it i don't play nearly as much as i used to
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 16, 2016, 04:16:49 PM
        Well, it's much more fun to play with people who you're more or less familiar with. DTF edition could be a lot of fun actually.

        Awesome idea--I can't wait to listen to it. I'm only familiar with a handful of those artists and only a couple of the songs.

        I'd ask a question about the results but I'm on the run now and probably won't be back to the forums until after the results are posted anyways.

        Well, the question part isn't obligatory so it's all up to you. Personally, I wouldn't have missed such an opportunity, but hey, that's real life for you.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 16, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
        and now, parama reviews the evermind roulette album (disc 1)
        1. Flash Point
        i kinda dig this, the main riff is cool but I don't really care for the synth mixed into it. not a huge fan of the singer's voice but it's alright. felt way longer than 6 minutes though  :lol
        2. Still Alive
        okay this just feels like very standard and solid power metal, so i'm not surprised evermind loved it
        3. Landfill
        this is the kind of nice, weightless little ballad that i'd probably like more if i listened to it 5 times but doesn't hit me that hard on first listen
        4. Broken Wings
        this was fairly standard power metal stuff too but also kind of lacked any dynamics, the verse and chorus were at the same level so it felt kinda monotonous
        5. The Bitter Suite IV and V
        so i listened to I and II just yesterday on a completely different site, how about that. a bit slow to start but when this kicks in it's really fun. maybe not much more than that, but it's alright
        6. Paranoid Circus
        i'm just going to guess that every other track on here is going to be solid but unmemorable power metal
        7. Painted Skies
        i actually like this a decent bit, the vocals are again not 100% my thing but they're solid. maybe a bit long for a piano ballad? i'd probably like this less if i had to listen to it 5 times tho
        8. Last Chance
        wow, this is actually really cool and i might revisit it
        9. Self-Blinded Eyes
        this is slightly better than solid but unmemorable power metal, maybe it's the vocals, it's probably the vocals, they're p. good
        10. Moonhorse
        i listened to this entire thing and kind of didn't get a lot out of it but what i did i liked? the guitar tone is cool, the riffs are pretty nice and sludgy
        11. The Idol
        i hate the intro bit of this obv but. anyways this is all-around pretty solid honestly but i'd need more listens to fully appreciate it, which i will probably not give
        12. Pride (The Warrior's Way)
        okay the start of this is actually gorgeous and amazing  :lol the vocalist here is pretty good too, throughout this song is pretty rad. this would've prob gotten like a 9 in my first roulette tbh

        i'm pretty sure the second disc is going to kill me so i'll listen to it later
        tho i already listened to the edenbridge song too so i probably won't again
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 16, 2016, 05:17:57 PM
        I'll probably listen to the album, but considering most of it seems to be power metal, I might end up digging just a song or two :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tyrias on April 16, 2016, 06:13:38 PM
        Album seems like a cool idea and I'll probably check it out.

        As for questions: how do you find the time (and motivation) to write  and do all this extra stuff for your roulette (tidbits, long write-ups, that album...), write elaborate essays for submissions in other roulettes and still have a full time job?

        Hope that makes sense, as I just came home and am not quite sober  (read: really tired amd really drunk)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: TAC on April 16, 2016, 06:19:43 PM
        My question would be what kind if job do you have that you can listen to so much music?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Bolsters on April 16, 2016, 10:26:14 PM
        Here's my question: How much points is a pearl star? :neverusethis:
        More points than bronze star, but less points than diamond star. And I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. Dave, confirm this if you can. :biggrin:
        No.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 16, 2016, 11:24:29 PM
        My question would be what kind if job do you have that you can listen to so much music?
        Probably DJ Ev, or the guy who plays power metal at retro-medieval bars, or both :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 17, 2016, 03:33:43 AM
        I'll definitely check that double CD. I would have checked more songs after results in every round but I'm too lazy so I checked just some of those that got 9 or 10.
        My question is: how many Adidas tracksuits you own? :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 03:51:03 AM
        That double album thing is awesome.  Would love to check some of these out but obviously I'm not gonna go there.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 05:21:03 AM
        Here's my question: How much points is a pearl star? :neverusethis:
        More points than bronze star, but less points than diamond star. And I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. Dave, confirm this if you can. :biggrin:
        No.

        "No" because it's wrong, or "No" because you don't want to?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 05:22:03 AM
        Would love to check some of these out but obviously I'm not gonna go there.

        Good on ya mate... that goes for other Roulette's too.   ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Bolsters on April 17, 2016, 05:23:54 AM
        "No" because it's wrong, or "No" because you don't want to?
        "No" because "No", obviously.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: lonestar on April 17, 2016, 06:46:58 AM
        Very nice on the CD thing, I'll download it soon. :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
        Parama, you tend to throw the term "power metal" around just like I tend to label everything I dlslike as "djent". :lol I wouldn't say Lyriel and Almanac songs were power metal, but hey, that's up to you.

        As for questions: how do you find the time (and motivation) to write  and do all this extra stuff for your roulette (tidbits, long write-ups, that album...), write elaborate essays for submissions in other roulettes and still have a full time job?

        Well, that's a nice question and while I might seem a pompous assbag while answering it, I'm still going to give it a go. :lol

        Let's start with my full-time job, it's a nice job that allows me to listen to the music while I'm actually working - more details on this in the next answer - and while it could be mentally exhausting, I actually love it and I've got a lot of energy after a working day still.

        When I signed up for doing this roulette, I knew I'll have to put all my free time into it, because I knew listening to a lot of songs will take time, doing the write-ups will take time, all that... so I just had to put all my other projects on hold and focus on the actual roulette. I've postponed the beginning for a few months picking the most convenient time to run this, and when I felt I'm ready to do this, I've got a permission from Dave and started it.

        The motivation... You're calling all the blurred pictures, tidbits, double-album-thingy "extra stuff", but in my opinion this is just a simple matter of showing some respect to the people that are playing in my roulette, taking their time entertaining me with the songs, looking to find something right up my alley. They're obviously putting a lot of effort in it - well, most of them (hello Kade!) - you should see the EP write-ups they sent me - so naturally I have to put a lot of effort to make sure it pays off, and while the detailed write-ups is the most obvious answer to this, I've got to put some extra effort to make the people interested and entertained in turn. This was my intention from the very beginning - I wanted this thread to become something that people will look forward to visit, that they'll be eagerly awaiting every update. People often think that the fact the host is producing the write-ups and results, while 12 folks are trying their best to send the songs that'll please him is enough, and I think it really isn't. I think the host should put more effort than that, and I did exactly that.

        Beyond that, well, see, I'm kind of OCD guy I guess. I'm usually reluctant to sign up for the job, but if I do sign up for it, I'll be damned but I'll see it done well. If I set the deadline, I'm going to make sure I meet it (most of the time). The time isn't really an issue here - thought I've got to say I've spent most of my free time after work listening to your entries, composing blurred pictures, writing the tidbits, doing the write-ups, but I don't regret it at all. And as I said, the motivation was somewhat an easy part - people are putting the effort in sending me the songs, so I have to give the effort back tenfold. It's simply a matter of respect.

        And it's the same in the other roulettes. I'm sending a song to you, I want you to know what I think about it, I'd like to give you a story behind it, and since you're so kind to listen to my song, I'm going to put an effort into my entry. That's another case where it's simply a matter of respect.

        My question would be what kind if job do you have that you can listen to so much music?

        I'm a design engineer at Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant. If it matters, I'm in the fuselage department (I wonder why RJ didn't send Voices from the Fuselage :neverusethis: ). I'm not always listening to music at work, but there are days where I have somewhat routine job to do and no one bothers me, so I can just put my headphones on and enjoy the ride. On the other hand, there are days when it seems like every single person in the department wants something from me. :lol I hate those.

        I might take a picture of my working place tomorrow just to keep the discussion alive.


        My question is: how many Adidas tracksuits you own? :neverusethis:

        None. :lol

        I'm starting doing the results now. I've got a lot to say and write... so I'm not going to post them soon. I think three hours to write them all, and then I'm going to reveal them gradually from #6 to #1. I wanted to do that back in my first roulette, but RJ threatened me with that Kamelot promo. Now that it's not on the table I think I'll do the one-by-one reveal.

        Time to get the hype on.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 08:28:49 AM
        I noticed that I put less effort in my entry writeups the more the roulette host seems to lose interest in their own roulette, that definitely didn't happen in this one, or any of the ones I'm currently in for that matter. Not even talking about responding to the PM's, I rarely even did that in my own roulette :lol (though I wish I would've), but the effort they put in keeping the thread updated and keeping up the pace.

        Looking forward to the top 6 countdown
        :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 08:44:18 AM
        Copied straight from my top 50, right? :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 09:33:25 AM
        :lol

        I've just discovered I've got some things I need to do IRL, so the whole results countdown is getting postponed for two hours. I've got two EPs reviewed and ranked, but I'm afraid the rest of them will have to wait for two hours until I can get to them.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 17, 2016, 09:59:49 AM

        My question is: how many Adidas tracksuits you own? :neverusethis:

        None. :lol

        Damn, this changed my stereotypical view of you :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 10:03:14 AM
        i probably used power metal and symphonic metal interchangeably most of the time but  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 17, 2016, 10:18:06 AM
        Is there a difference? :neverusethis:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 17, 2016, 10:44:16 AM
        There are more types of metal? I thought all metal is just screaming.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 10:49:56 AM
        this newfangled rock music is destroying our kids and making them worship the satan
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 10:52:56 AM
        Ugh.. I hate when these supposed 'vocalists' scream instead of singing, it just shows they have no talent at all, so boring, satanic and monotonous.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
        Alright, back on track doing the write-ups.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 11:41:51 AM
        :soon: intensifies
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tyrias on April 17, 2016, 11:52:20 AM
        Eagerly awaiting your reaction to Agalloch :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 11:54:36 AM
        two of the three tracks are instrumentals apparently and i dunno if the third has harsh vocals at all (i'm gonna listen to the album later today tho so) so it might not be that exciting of a reaction  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
        Oh trust me, it has. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 12:03:19 PM
        fantastic
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
        Just to do an update and get you guys informed, got four write-ups out of six ready.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 12:47:34 PM
        *big ass explanation

        (https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55312654.jpg)

        I might take a picture of my working place tomorrow just to keep the discussion alive.

        You're determined to be the first roulette to 50 pages, aren't ya.   :biggrin:
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 12:51:17 PM
        I'm still waiting for the first roulette host to do realtime facecam reactions to the submissions to go with the writeups.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 12:51:50 PM
        Now that's an idea for my v3! :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 12:53:00 PM
        I'm in, if only to send you the longest song on that Native Construct album in the qualifiers, it's worth it :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 12:55:00 PM
        They'll probably release another album before I host it. Think about all the possibilities!

        I think it's reasonable to expect the first write-up to be posted in about an hour.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 12:59:57 PM
        While I wait for the results which are probably not going to be all that favorable for me, I've got to reiterate some of the compliments on the way this roulette has been run. Obviously 6th isn't as high as I would've liked to finish, but I wouldn't change a single thing about the way this was run. Very engaging and awesome write ups, phenomenal pacing, sharp competition, I could go on and on. I've obviously played in a whole lot of roulettes (too many, recently) and several stand out, but this sets the bar mighty high. Im really glad I decided to play.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 17, 2016, 01:15:07 PM
        While I wait for the results which are probably not going to be all that favorable for me, I've got to reiterate some of the compliments on the way this roulette has been run. Obviously 6th isn't as high as I would've liked to finish, but I wouldn't change a single thing about the way this was run. Very engaging and awesome write ups, phenomenal pacing, sharp competition, I could go on and on. I've obviously played in a whole lot of roulettes (too many, recently) and several stand out, but this sets the bar mighty high. Im really glad I decided to play.
        Man, thank you for sending The Antlers :tup their album Hospice is definitely the best thing I heard this year.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 17, 2016, 01:19:40 PM
        I've got to admin you've run this pretty well, kind of what I wanted to achieve with mine but I guess 15 players wasn't the best idea, but considering my tastes make little sense, it was statistically better :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
        While I wait for the results which are probably not going to be all that favorable for me, I've got to reiterate some of the compliments on the way this roulette has been run. Obviously 6th isn't as high as I would've liked to finish, but I wouldn't change a single thing about the way this was run. Very engaging and awesome write ups, phenomenal pacing, sharp competition, I could go on and on. I've obviously played in a whole lot of roulettes (too many, recently) and several stand out, but this sets the bar mighty high. Im really glad I decided to play.
        Man, thank you for sending The Antlers :tup their album Hospice is definitely the best thing I heard this year.

        I'm glad they're finding new followers! I don't know how often they tour in Europe (much less Croatia) but if you ever get a chance to see them it's well worth it.

        Hospice is one of my favorites. I don't often send them in roulettes though because my first attempt to do so was also in the first roulette I participated in and someone (ELITE  :angry:) eliminated me from the roulette based on that submission.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
        Elite just has awful tastes. He eliminated me for Serious Black. I know that sounds hilarious, but the actual song was alright. :lol

        I've got to admin

        Just ask Bosk I guess.

        Meanwhile, five write-ups out of six are done. I saved the most interesting for the last... Nelson, yours is the only write-up I'm left to do.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 17, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
        While I wait for the results which are probably not going to be all that favorable for me, I've got to reiterate some of the compliments on the way this roulette has been run. Obviously 6th isn't as high as I would've liked to finish, but I wouldn't change a single thing about the way this was run. Very engaging and awesome write ups, phenomenal pacing, sharp competition, I could go on and on. I've obviously played in a whole lot of roulettes (too many, recently) and several stand out, but this sets the bar mighty high. Im really glad I decided to play.
        Man, thank you for sending The Antlers :tup their album Hospice is definitely the best thing I heard this year.

        I'm glad they're finding new followers! I don't know how often they tour in Europe (much less Croatia) but if you ever get a chance to see them it's well worth it.

        Hospice is one of my favorites. I don't often send them in roulettes though because my first attempt to do so was also in the first roulette I participated in and someone (ELITE  :angry:) eliminated me from the roulette based on that submission.
        I will see them if I ever get chance.
        What song did you send in that roulette?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 01:42:18 PM
        Sylvia, if I'm remembering correctly

        And Serious Black is fantastic
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 02:02:55 PM
        And Serious Black is fantastic
        He sure is, Sirius Black has some magical moments.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 17, 2016, 02:05:51 PM
        *had :'(
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 02:17:00 PM
        When will my past roulettes stop to haunt me :(
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 02:17:45 PM
        i'm listening to ashes against the grain rn and i'm on the song with growls that seneca sent to evermind and this is going to be so much fun
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Sacul on April 17, 2016, 02:18:31 PM
        When you stop eliminating me in the first round, Elite :P
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 02:18:58 PM
        I've eliminated half the forum in the first round if I have to believe this thread :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
        i'm going to run a roulette where i eliminate everyone in the first round and the other 9 rounds are me listening to my own music
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 02:21:15 PM
        I've eliminated half the forum in the first round if I have to believe this thread :lol

        No, you eliminated me in the second one!

        Alright guys, we're almost there... I think I need fifteen more minutes and we're good to go.

        i'm listening to ashes against the grain rn and i'm on the song with growls that seneca sent to evermind and this is going to be so much fun

        My write-up for this song is 455 words. Interpret this as you will.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
        i'm going to run a roulette where i eliminate everyone in the first round and the other 9 rounds are me listening to my own music

        I'll join, it will be fun
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 02:23:27 PM
        My write-up for this song is 455 words. Interpret this as you will.

        Jesus Christ, that's almost as long as the write-ups for the albums in my top 50.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Tomislav95 on April 17, 2016, 02:24:56 PM
        i'm listening to ashes against the grain rn and i'm on the song with growls that seneca sent to evermind and this is going to be so much fun
        Despite growls, Bloodbirds is one of my favorite songs ever. That's why I try to avoid sending sending songs that I love but host could hate for some reason (growls here). It would crush my heart (Evermind, please have mercy :()
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Luoto on April 17, 2016, 02:29:47 PM
        Well, it's 1,5 minutes of black metal vocals near the end of 12 minutes of music he apparently enjoys, so he shouldn't completely butcher it :D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 02:43:26 PM
        Alright, scores are counted and now I actually know who will win this... we're going forward with the gradual reveal in five minutes.

        But first of all, I wanted to thank you all guys for participating in this, taking your time to send me the songs, writing in this thread, keeping it off the second page, being so active and so interested. I wanted this to be an awesome roulette, and all of you who accepted my invites, all of you who decided to play even if you didn't receive an invite, all of you who frequented this thread, you made it more awesome with each post. I loved how it turned out. I won't host another roulette for a while, but I can safely say this was a blast and it was much more than I could hope for. Thank you everyone.

        Now fasten your seat belts... the results are coming.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 02:46:02 PM
        Now fasten your seat belts
        ok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UINhE8L1yXg#t=1m)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 02:49:45 PM
        When will my past roulettes stop to haunt me :(

        You're first roulette was AWESOME!!!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 02:50:18 PM
        Alright, scores are counted and now I actually know who will win this... we're going forward with the gradual reveal in five minutes.

        But first of all, I wanted to thank you all guys for participating in this, taking your time to send me the songs, writing in this thread, keeping it off the second page, being so active and so interested. I wanted this to be an awesome roulette, and all of you who accepted my invites, all of you who decided to play even if you didn't receive an invite, all of you who frequented this thread, you made it more awesome with each post. I loved how it turned out. I won't host another roulette for a while, but I can safely say this was a blast and it was much more than I could hope for. Thank you everyone.

        Now fasten your seat belts... the results are coming.

        Thanks for running it and having me mate, very well done on all counts.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Scorpion on April 17, 2016, 02:50:42 PM
        I had more fun following this roulette than quite a couple of others that will not be named here that I played in, so thanks to you for making this one a blast to follow, even despite the fact that I didn't quite meet the threshhold of actually partaking.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. And my mind is free of pain and anger (Update)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 02:52:49 PM
        I had more a lot of fun following this, so thanks to you for making this one a blast to follow, even despite the fact that I didn't quite meet the threshhold of actually partaking.

        Fixed for me. Yeah, I'll just echo this, very well done on basically everything. The next best roulette ever will seriously have to do something with live videos of first impressions or something.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A seed of star becoming flame (#6)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 02:55:28 PM
        #6: lonestar

        Why The Fuck Didn't RJ Send These Bands Earlier?

        StarGate – The Wonders of Nature
        StarGate – Save the World
        Secret Sphere – Wish & Steadiness
        Sun Caged – Ashtamangala (The 8 Auspicious Symbols) (cut)
          II. Parasol
          III. Wave the Banner
          IV. Fish Afraid of Drowning
          V. Moebius Knot
          VI. Full Circle
          VII. Let It Wash Away (The Lotus Effect)



        StarGate – The Wonders of Nature / Save the World

        I know I said if the intro is less than two minutes, I’m going to dump it with the actual song, and if the intro is longer, I’m going to rate it separately, but there was no way to dump it with the actual song, because it’s a very pronounced happy guitar intro for the song that will come next. To give it a separate score would be unfair.

        This was my favourite song from your EP, no doubt, even with Ashtamangala on the table. (Shit, I’m still having a hard time pronouncing Ashtamangala.) I thought this tune was more or less concise, to the point and enjoyable enough, even thought I found it a bit overwhelming overall. My least favourite parts were the “STORMRAGE!”, “JUST WARNINGS!” and such parts on the chorus. I’m also not sure what they’re singing in the second chorus – I have a suspicion it’s “Ever mice!” or “Clever mice!” Whatever floats their boat, I guess. Still, quite a nice song you’ve got there.

        15.5/20

        Secret Sphere – Wish & Steadiness


        This song starts out slow – and, in fact, perhaps too slow – and ominous making it seem like it’s the second intro part. It picks up the pace later with some exquisite power metal, but sadly I don’t think this song was memorable in any way for me. If there was really a candidate for the generic power / progressive metal tune, this is the one, because I just don’t see or hear anything special here. There’s that problem I’ve got with Italian power metal, I guess. Your EP got the same number of listens every EP got, and I can legitimately sing every song’s chorus on TAC EP, but I’ll be damned if I remember anything from this tune except the little part that goes like:

        “Hold it tight
        A touch that will lead her fingers to the heart”


        Don’t get me wrong, when I listen to this song, I think I like it, but it’s just suffers from that Italian-power-metal-syndrome. It’s generic and unmemorable as hell. I feel you just picked this song because you didn’t have anything else to fill the EP with – and I suspect you did exactly that – so I’m rating it accordingly. Not that you have anything to lose anyway.

        12.5/20

        Sun Caged – Ashtamangala (The 8 Auspicious Symbols)


        I won’t lie, this was probably the most difficult song for me to get into, out of all the tunes I’ve got in this round. Maybe that’s because your EP was still down there in the rotation when I typed this for the tidbits – but I was on four listens to your EP overall back then and I was drawing a total blank on this song. I daresay this isn’t a good sign at all…

        This is one of the epics I’ve got in this round, and it’s cut since the first 10-minutes track is just gone from the playlist due to the “stupid” rules about the various artists. I definitely felt it would be unfair to allow the EPs being all featuring one song only, so I added that rule about different artists. And since RJ planned to send this full suite to me, that threw a wrench in his fancy plans.

        I think this song is too inconsistent, actually. I liked the first (or rather the second) business-like part called Parasol, and I bloody loved the second (or rather the third) part called Wave the Banner (especially when the singer goes really high), and I though the Fish Afraid of Drowning was decent too – nice song title, by the way; but then it just lost me. I think the FAoD -> Moebius Knot transition doesn’t work at all, and overall I think it was rather underwhelming in the end, even with this nice piano work and harmonies. But the Parasol – Wave the Banner – Fish Afraid of Drowning sequence is sick in a good way, loved it. Maybe if you didn’t cut the first 10-minutes long part the ending would’ve been more satistying, who knows?

        Overall, I’ve got mixed feelings about this tune. I don’t think it’s even my favourite from your EP, and that’s a rare thing for epics in my roulette.

        14/20

        EP review:


        I think this EP was decent regarding the flow except one thing that bothered me greatly. I can see why this happened, but still, to me it sounds like this EP has two intro tracks, and while the first one is very well-done and fitting, the second one is clearly unnecessary; and it appears after a full-fledged song which makes it even more baffling in regards to the flow. I realize you just threw the first two (three) tracks into the mix since you discovered you have to use different artists, and I think that didn’t really work. Both StarGate songs don’t flow too well into the Secret Sphere one; and even the epic feels disjointed – as I said, I don’t think Fish Afraid of Drowning does a good job with flowing into Moebius Knot. The songs are decent here, but the flow, well, it could’ve been much better.

        Flow points: 3/5

        The average songs score: (15,5 + 12,5 + 14) / 3 = 14

        The whole EP score: 14 + 3 = 17

        Total score: 63,5 + 17 = 80,5
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A seed of star becoming flame (#6)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 02:57:45 PM
        look at all those people online in this thread
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A seed of star becoming flame (#6)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 02:58:26 PM
        Why The Fuck Didn't RJ Send These Bands Earlier?
        I think I can see why now :lol




         :corn
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A seed of star becoming flame (#6)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
        seneca got at least an 18.5 on his EP  :tup
        maybe evermind has finally seen the way of the growl
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. A seed of star becoming flame (#6)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 03:01:21 PM
        Stargate is awesome.  I still remember when RJ shared it with me, and picking my jaw up off the ground - it left a helluva first impression.  It's been a long time since I spun it though.  I'll fix that tomorrow in the air.

        Sun Caged... I've had trouble with this suite as well.  It just never stuck with me. 

        That SS album is awesome.  Great opening instrumental.

        Why The Fuck Didn't RJ Send These Bands Earlier?
        I think I can see why now :lol

         :rollin :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 03:11:10 PM
        #5: senecadawg2

        Earth, Wind & Fire

        Agalloch – Birch Black
        Thrice – Come All You Weary
        Ludovico Einaudi – Fly
        Thrice – A Song for Milly Michaelson
        Agalloch – Our Fortress Is Burning… I
        Agalloch – Our Fortress Is Burning… II – Bloodbirds



        Agalloch – Birch Black

        This is my first foray into Agalloch. Let me preface this saying I always intended to get into Agalloch but I also knew they’re folky death metal band featuring growls so I just stayed away from them. Some people recommended me The White EP (Tomislav included) and I still never checked it out. Well I guess this just had to happen at one time or another. I guess some people would say my first foray into this band is underwhelming because it’s an instrumental, but what the hell, it’s still a song, and a good one at that.

        I liked this one a lot. Nice drumming and nice acoustic guitar playing, it’s all about atmosphere here. I think the electric guitar tremolo (or whatever it is) in the end is a bit drawn-out, but otherwise this track is very enjoyable, and it sets the stage for what’s to come just fine.

        18/20

        Thrice – Come All You Weary


        This is my first foray into Thrice as well! Look at you, casually introducing me those bands and making me actually like and be interested in them.

        Thrice never were on my radar somehow. I knew they exist and for some reason I lumped them into the “Zantera / Sacul music” category, meaning they were playing some weird music I wouldn’t be fond of. There are a lot of well-known bands in that category, like Godspeed You Black Emperor, Swans and so on. I assumed Thrice were one of those, and, hell, apparently I was wrong.

        This song is awesome. It’s not as awesome as one of the next songs, but I’ll be damned, I love this one. The outburst of energy and emotion in the chorus makes this one so memorable and touching, and the calm instrumental parts and verses are so fitting. And coming after Birch Black, this song is even more powerful. I dare to say you achieved something great with this two-songs “Earth” combination. This was one of my favourite sequences in this round.

        19/20

        Ludovico Einaudi – Fly


        Despite being longer than Birch Black, this piece definitely felt like an intro of some kind, or an instrumental prelude. Not to say it wasn’t enjoyable, because the piano instrumentals are always enjoyable unless it’s the cat walking on piano, meowing and pressing the random notes he manages to get his paws on; but I wouldn’t call this particularly memorable either. Don’t get me wrong – it is beautiful, it is nice, but it’s not something I would go out of my way to listen to.

        16.5/20

        Thrice – A Song for Milly Michaelson


        This is my second foray into Thrice! Okay, fine, I’ll get to the song.

        I felt that song was quite inferior to Come All You Weary, to be honest. I guess this song might be the reason Fly didn’t score too well – I feel like Birch Black score was actually enhanced by the fact I loved Come All You Weary, and I think this time it didn’t work in your favour – I was kind of indifferent to this song, and by association Fly got maybe a point less. But this is pointless to argue anyway.

        But this song is actually alright, it’s just not as memorable as the other Thrice song was. I’m definitely getting a “wind” element feeling from it (I’m going to laugh if it’s actually in the other alchemy index on the album, since I don’t know the tracklist for that one), and I’m also getting the fatalistic feeling from this song. I really like it, in fact, the careless (not arrogant) attitude the singer is displaying, like he’s tired of life, is very appealing here. However, I thought the guitar work here was a bit too repetitive with that one chord playing over and over, and I felt this song had no buildup – which would’ve been fine if it didn’t have those drums doing the buildup only for nothing to actually happen. Those were like a giant tease never getting anywhere.

        Still, I liked this one a fair bit. It’s my least favourite from your EP, but it was still a good song.

        16/20

        Agalloch – Our Fortress Is Burning… I


        This is my second foray into Agalloch! Alright, I’ll stop.

        I pondered on what to do with these two a lot, and eventually I decided to separate them. Not only it allowed you to get a higher average score, but I don’t see why I should lump these two into one song. After all, the distinctions are there (one song has growls and one doesn’t, what else do you need?), so two songs it is.

        Well… I think this is fantastic. It seems the folky side of Agalloch is something I already love, because both Birch Black and this tune are awesome. I would say this song is more distinctive and more focused than Birch Black, it doesn’t have this annoying guitar technique, it has more pronounced rhythm and as you said, it has more of that fiery, intense mood. The muted electric guitars in the background in the second part are emphasizing it, and overall I thought this song was quite ominous.

        19/20

        Agalloch – Our Fortress Is Burning… II – Bloodbirds


        And as expected, this is a perfect, logical continuation of the first part. I love how those tracks were split. The very first note here takes me into the musical heaven. I mean, the first part was fantastic instrumental-wise, and this part is just heavenly. I just couldn’t stop headbanging to it, and everyone at work probably thought I was nuts every time this song came up.

        So here’s the story I wrote in the tidbit. As I said, it just happened that my first listen of all your EPs was happening at work, and I wasn’t quite familiar with any of the tracklists at the moment. When I’m able to listen to the music at work I’m usually quite immersed in what I’m doing, and sometimes if the music itself is dull enough, I may end up not registering anything I’ve hearing. But when I was listening to this one, I found I’m growing less attentive to what I’m working on; and I’ve paid more and more attention to this song instead, but I had no idea what I’m listening to. And at some point I thought “wow, this is just fantastic, but when will the vocals come in?” So naturally I checked my phone to see which band was currently playing, and immediately I thought “Oh shit! I take that back! Please don’t let the vocals come in!” :lol

        And I admit I was wrong here all along.

        The growls are fucking perfect on this tune. Not in the kind of “hey, alright, growls aren’t bothering me here like on ‘The Empty Room’ way”, but in the kind “I can’t imagine this track without growls” way. In the “this is bloody awesome and I wouldn’t have this any other way around” way. In a headbanging, fist-pumping and doing the reckless evil face while listening to this song kind of way. I’m sorry for swearing here so casually, but holy fucking shit this is so incredible.

        I can’t even start describing how great this tune is – alright, I kind of had started it in the previous paragraph, but this is everything I could’ve wished for, and more. Not only this is way different from everything I’ve received in this roulette, but it’s the single most satisfying payoff in any EP ever. The urgent, frantic instrumentation behind the freaking growls here, punctuated with the desperate, beautiful and destructive lyrics… this is outstanding and this is something I never expected to get. Or, for that matter, to like.

        You know what? This deserves a perfect score. This was my favourite song from the whole EP and maybe from the whole roulette. This is what you do when you want to introduce me to the growls, folks. Watch and learn.

        20/20

        EP review:


        Well, despite me not liking A Song for Milly Michaelson as much as the other tracks – which was your fault since you picked all the awesome tracks – I thought this EP was amazing. I mean, this was definitely the oddest EP genre-wise but I like how well-thought out it is. From the certain atmosphere in each section, sticking to the elemental theme, to the interesting decisions regarding the flow and the song lengths (I loved how you made each song longer than the last), it’s obvious you put an effort into this, and I think it works – well, I think it’s bloody perfect. I definitely thought the elemental parts worked just fine – the warm and enveloping atmosphere on Come All You Weary was perfect for Earth theme, the lightness and calmness of both Fly and A Song for Milly Michaelson were perfect for Wind, and don’t even get me started on that pair of Agalloch tunes. Pure perfection for Fire theme here.

        Remember how I mentioned it would be nice to have a different EP from all the power / progressive metal ones I had coming my way? Well, obviously I still stand by this, but I just wanted you to know your EP was the one I kept wanting to come back to. I mean, I was spinning all those EPs at work, and – I’m not kidding – I eagerly waited until I could spin yours once again. I think I’ve listened to Our Fortress is Burning like twenty times. When I had a spare fifteen minutes or so I just thought “screw that EP thing, I’m going for that track once again”. And I obviously did headbang, imitated the growly singing and all that. Folks at work certainly think I’m nuts now. But, hey, who cares. I don’t know about the whole scoreboard, but you’re awesome and your EP is awesome. Neil Young isn’t awesome but once again, who cares when you can have Agalloch.

        Flow points: 5/5

        The average songs score: (18 + 19 + 16.5 + 16 + 19 + 20) / 6 = 18,083(3)

        The whole EP score: 18,083(3) + 5 = 23,083(3)

        Total score: 62,5 + 23,083(3) = 85,583(3)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 03:14:51 PM
        Calling it now: Nelson has the best EP score out of all participants.

        Congratulations :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 03:16:43 PM
        i mean, there isn't a whole lot above 23/25  :lol

        also wow you probably like agalloch more than i do  :lol
        though i've only listened to ashes like, two or three times now in total so
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 03:17:12 PM
        “Zantera / Sacul music”

        :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Tyrias on April 17, 2016, 03:19:19 PM
        Wow, I mean that suite is amazing but I'd never have sent you do this, and I was already pretty risky with my submissions in the qualifiers.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 03:19:55 PM
        Well I'll be damned  :lol

        Not what I was expecting at all but I'm thrilled to see you enjoyed it so much!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 03:28:29 PM
        Ironically, I think the Wind section was the least risky of the three.

        Can't benlieve I'm saying this but you're going to have to listen to Ashes Against the Grain now :o
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Scorpion on April 17, 2016, 03:29:58 PM
        Holy shit, I think you're giving that EP more points than I would have, and I love Agalloch. :lol Mainly because I agree on your critique of A Song for Milly Michaelson, but I also find Birch Black to be sorta meh.

        seneca, out of curiousity, why didn't you go with Daedalus instead of Milly Michaelson?
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 03:32:21 PM
        Because there are screams in Daedalus :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 03:34:15 PM
        What the flying fuck?

        I must be dreaming
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The black hole has shuffled your cards (#4)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 03:34:23 PM
        You're probably going to be disappointed, but it is what it is.

        #4: Big Hath

        Not Quite As Heavy As It Could Have Been EP, aka The Evermind is Awesome (sung to the tune of the Lego Movie song Everything Is Awesome) EP

        Balance of Power – Walking on Top of the World
        Black Tora – Fuel My Hunger
        Dave Matthews Band – Minarets
        Soundgarden – Fresh Tendrils
        Soulspell – Into the Arc of Time (Haamiah’s Fall)
        Pyramid Theorem – Another Day Slips By



        Balance of Power – Walking on Top of the World

        You wanted to start this EP with a powerful song, and I’d say you succeeded here. This is a solid metal song, but the singer here gets it to another level, he does a great job going high on some notes. The title line in the chorus is one of the most memorable parts of your EP, actually, I like how he sings that. I didn’t like some of the robotic-sounding parts (like “sleeping deeper” before the chorus), but overall I really dig this tune.

        I thought the instrumental part was really well done too, but what finally sold me on this song was the interplay in the end, where the most memorable line from the chorus was alternating with the softer line over some tasteful riffage going on. They’ve managed to project quite an interesting vibe here.

        17.5/20

        Black Tora – Fuel My Hunger


        This is just a short and sweet hard rock / metal song. It’s only three minutes long, but I think it really does it job, being packed full of energy that gets released on the chorus where the singer goes wild with “fuel my hunger!” part sometimes. I also like the somewhat intense ending.

        The riff in the middle is pretty cool and the instrumental overall is nice enough. I don’t have a lot of comments for this song to be honest, I guess this is another contender for the shortest write-up of the round. Just a nice, solid song here.

        15.5/20

        Dave Matthews Band – Minarets


        Okay, this is going to be really difficult. I know you hoped and thought I will like this one, but truth be told, this is probably my least favourite tune from the whole round. I’m not sure what it is – the singer’s voice, the instrumentation, the overall mix or the mood of this tune – I suspect it’s everything, but I found this to be bland, drawn-out and boring. Sorry.

        This tune is like the guy didn’t have any inspiration left but still had to write a song with those eastern influences. There are some decent parts, but overall it feels like he scrambled to find any good material for this tune and fell short of it. I feel like he was going for that sound where the Islamic priests (or whatever they’re called) are singing from the top of the actual minarets, and other than that he also went for some sultry, dry Arabic sound too, and I wouldn’t say he didn’t succeed… it’s just I don’t really want to hear that. This song just wasn’t interesting for me. Once again, I'm sorry for such a harsh write-up. You introduced me to a lot of great music throught this roulette, and this song is one of the biggest reasons for your downfall. It's just, well, that happens I guess.

        10.5/20

        Soundgarden – Fresh Tendrils


        Yeah, the most groove indeed. This song reminds me of something that can be included on the hockey match in the breaks between the actual game. I have no idea what genre is it, but I think I like it more or less.

        The septa in Game of Thrones would’ve been proud of this with the “Shame! Shame!” part before the chorus (or is it included in the chorus? I don’t really know.)

        Overall, this song is really solid and kind of reminds me of alternative rock I guess, something like Psychopomp I’ve got from Kade back then; and for the four minutes it goes on, I think it’s quite likeable and nice, but not something outstanding. I'm also running out of things to say about your songs. That's not a good sign.

        14.5/20

        Soulspell – Into the Arc of Time (Haamiah’s Fall)


        And this is, hands down, the best song on your EP. This song wowed me like a few others did in this round.

        What kind of band is this? You said I’ll recognize a few Savatage voices on this one; I’m sure I hear Jon Oliva on this, and is Zak also there? I’m not exactly sure. I am sure there are some other voices though, no idea about the singers but they all sound awesome.

        Damn, the whole song sounds awesome, very ambitious and heavy and just right up my alley. There’s a lot going on in this tune, pace changes, different singers, harmonies in the end, but everything is so accessible and easy on my ears I have trouble to find something I dislike. Indeed, I think this is a great song and I already want to check the album out. Adds a good punch of heaviness to your EP too.

        And I like the “Into the Arc of Time” title. Sounds epic as hell.

        18.5/20

        Pyramid Theorem – Another Day Slips By


        Writing that many write-ups in a single day proves to be really difficult, because I’m just running out of things to say, except that I liked that song quite a bit and it’s competing with Balance of Power tune for the second place in your EP. A solid progressive metal tune right here. I like how it starts out busy and somewhat heavy, but then turns into a calm one on the verses. And I really enjoy how it naturally progresses to chorus where (I think) the female vocals join up with the male ones, or maybe someone just squeezed the singer’s balls and he does this high falsetto squeak.

        And then this song goes into a lengthy instrumental section, which is somewhat disjointed with the rest of the song, but still awesome. You mentioned that guitar solo… yeah, I like it a lot. Good choice here.

        18/20

        EP review:


        You know, I felt there were some great songs on this EP (Balance of Power, Savatage-esque band, Pyramid Theorem), and then there were some duds. I felt this EP had a real dip of quality in the middle, and that hurt the flow big time. I’ve got to say, you nailed the opening song and you nailed the closer, but the tracks you chose just weren’t enough to keep the EP consistently awesome. I think all the Black Tora, Dave Matthews Band and Soundgarden tracks are quite inferior to Balance of Power, Soulspell and Pyramid Theorem tracks. The latter group is just in another league whatsoever. Your EP was the only one I wasn’t familiar enough with when I wrote the tidbits. It definitely isn’t the best in terms of the flow, but this isn’t necessarily a bad thing because the competition in that department is ridiculous this time.

        So, overall, I don’t think this EP worked as well as it could have, but I still enjoyed it for what it is.

        Flow points: 3/5

        The average songs score: (17,5 + 15,5 + 10,5 + 14,5 + 18,5 + 18) / 6 = 15,75

        The whole EP score: 15,75 + 3 = 18,75

        Total score: 69 + 18,75 = 87,75
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 03:35:09 PM
        As much as I like Daedalus, Milly Michaelson has always been my favorite on that album. Something so serene about it... And along with Fly, I wanted the middle section to be more relaxing, coming before Agalloch
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The black hole has shuffled your cards (#4)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 03:36:12 PM
        Good choice on Milly Michaelson; I've actually covered that song at an open mic night once. It's a very nice tune indeed :)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 03:42:18 PM
        I wish I could've heard your cover

        Because there are screams in Daedalus :lol

         :rollin
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Sacul on April 17, 2016, 03:45:14 PM
        “Zantera / Sacul music”

         :rollin
        I'm gonna sig this :lol

        Also, surprised about Agalloch doing THAT well, I guess I'll have to check your EP, seneca  :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The black hole has shuffled your cards (#4)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 03:51:39 PM
        Looking back at my writeup for Agalloch - As Embers Dress the Sky while listening to it just now, I don't know why I still haven't really tried out this band, I remember how beautiful the music is instrumentally, still not 100% on the vocals though..
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 03:55:18 PM
        This is a penultimate reveal. So I guess ba-dum-tiss or something like that? I hope you're ready for all this.

        #3: bl5150

        The Empty Hollow

        Pathosray – The Sad Game
        Dyscordia – The Empty Room
        Labyrinth – State of Grace
        Rage – Empty Hollow Suite
           I. Empty Hollow
           II. Strings to a Web
           III. Fatal Grace
           IV. Connected
           V. Empty Hollow (Reprise)



        Pathosray – The Sad Game

        Alright, this song reminds me of Iris Divine, and not in a good way too. It’s intense, heavy as hell (It’s heavy as hell! I can tell. Fool fool~ ... uh. Don't mind me.),  and the ripping bassline makes it sound mechanical and lifeless. Tim thought Hibria would be too busy for me instrumentally – well, this song is too busy for me instrumentally, and Hibria is musical paradise compared to this.

        Still, there are a lot of moments I like on this one. Weirdly enough, when the singer goes aggressive spouting all those single words, I think that’s one of my favourite moments; and when he gets to the proper soaring chorus where the track title is mentioned, I think that part is awesome too.

        Given that you had a certain concept in mind – more on that in the EP flow section – I think this song works just fine. This was definitely the sound you were going for, and despite my initial dislike of this tune, I’ve grown to really enjoy it. So I’d say this isn’t amazing, but this is decent alright.

        15.5/20

        Dyscordia – The Empty Room


        This is one of the two tunes with growls I’ve got in this round. And I don’t know what happened or what I’m thinking here, but I liked both of them!

        This song reminds me – don’t laugh – of Gamma Ray with growls. The clean vocalist totally sounds like Kai Hansen, and the growls add that Ensiferum-like feel. I wonder what were you thinking when you sent this one, I guess you were striving to tie this track into overall concept, and I would say you succeeded. I actually like the contrast between the growls and the clean vocals – wait, is it the same singer? – and I think it really works in this song. Even where the growls going non-melodic, like in the chorus “Why? Why? Why?” parts, the clean vocals are doing their job providing me the power metal-infused lines. I’d say this song implements the so-called “beauty and the beast” technique only using the male voice and it’s not beautiful at all.

        The standouts in this song include the second calm verse laid upon that powerful bassline, and the parts that follow it, where the singer goes really high on the screamed lines and guttural on the growly parts. If that’s indeed one singer, holy shit.

        Overall I liked it way more than I should. And this song had growls. Go figure.

        17.5/20

        Labyrinth – State of Grace


        This was the least memorable song from your EP, and I thought it felt too out of place. I know what it supposed to do in the concept, and I get you had to include something like that, but I wish you found a different song for this spot too. This song is just an another power metal song I didn’t really care about.

        I mean, it’s kind of nice, but when you have three songs in your EP with very distinct sound and – I’ll go ahead and say that – personalities, you just don’t include the dull power metal song in that mix. This is probably the shortest write-up ever in this round, but I just don’t know what to say here.

        13/20

        Rage – Empty Hollow Suite


        But in the end, your EP indeed comes out with a bang, both lyrically and musically. It was a good idea to actually close the EP with an epic that wasn’t cut or anything, and you picked just the right song for it, heavy metal, with orchestra, epic as hell too. I love this song, so let me fawn over it for a bit.

        The main melody here is very memorable, and you just know it’s going to be a main melody when the orchestra plays it for the first time. I guess it’s really useful to have a father who’s a famous orchestra conductor (if your information is right), because you can get him to – surprise! – conduct an orchestra to make your heavy/power metal song more awesome. Now, the singer is incredible too, when he goes serious with “dark and grey!” line it’s only more awesome with each second passing. I liked the little callback to The Empty Room with “Tell me why! (why)” too.

        And then the main melody comes in with the actual vocalist. Just, well, holy shit, this is really amazing. Then we get through three different sections, the second one is a cool instrumental (the highlight here is when the orchestra gets in the mix), the third one is a cool instrumental with a weird name, and the fourth one called Connected is a really nice and soulful piece of music, I like how calm and longing the singer sounds on this one. If it weren’t for that fantastic, brilliant main melody, I’d call this part my favourite. Very well done.

        And of course, there’s the reprise. Just getting to hear this melody against was great, but there’s also that lyrical twist I’m going to talk in the next section… I’m just going to say this is very close to a perfect score. My second favourite song in this round.

        19.5/20

        EP review:


        “Have probably taken the concept of the ‘flow’ to ridiculous lengths with this?” Yeah, no kidding! :lol I mean, I expected anything but a concept EP with the similar music themes a bloody story to go along with it. And you pulled this off with using four different artists, no less! I’m impressed.

        You did a damn good job in this department, bringing something really unexpected to the table – a concept EP. And what’s even more impressive, it actually worked big time, if you ask me. I’m going to copy-paste the story description here for other people:

        “So all of these songs have a dark emotional edge to them and I have created a story of a guy who is depressed and paranoid (song 1), then finds himself committed to a mental institution (song 2). In song 3 he finds the strength to dream of better things and is eventually released. In song 4 he finds himself on the outside but with no family/friends to support him and begins to feel very alone and depressed again.  But over the course of the epic finale he reconnects with friends and family and by the end he finds happiness and his life is no longer an “empty hollow”.

        I can’t believe it actually works, but it does. I also liked how both The Sad Game, The Empty Room and The Empty Hollow had some similar melodies and similar mood to them, and of course the twist with “my life is just an empty hollow” to “my life was just an empty hollow” that made this EP work… well, it gives me chills alright.

        The only thing I wasn’t too fond of is the transition from The Empty Room to State of Grace. I know you screwed up the editing in this one, but even if you didn’t, the transition still feels too abrupt. I can write off the growls and the chaotic nature of the first song to the intense, unhinged nature of the EP due to the story, but I thought this transition was a weak point of your EP. But that’s a minor complain for such an undertaking.

        Flow points: 4.5/5

        The average songs score: (15.5 + 17.5 + 13 + 19.5) / 4 = 16.375

        The whole EP score: 16.375 + 4.5 = 20.875(3)

        Total score: 67 + 20.875 = 87.875
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The black hole has shuffled your cards (#4)
        Post by: Scorpion on April 17, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
        Looking back at my writeup for Agalloch - As Embers Dress the Sky while listening to it just now, I don't know why I still haven't really tried out this band, I remember how beautiful the music is instrumentally, still not 100% on the vocals though..

        I find the vocals on both The Mantle and Ashes Against the Grain to be more... accessible, for lack of a better term, than on Pale Folklore and Marrow of the Spirit, even though I still really like both of those albums. Not quite sure what it is, but I had a hard time getting into Pale Folklore at first too - getting into The Mantle and AAtG helped with that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 04:00:50 PM
        That whole Rage suite is amazing.  The solo is incredible.

        Dyscordia sounds awesome.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 04:01:56 PM
        Okay, so we got two most metal EPs competing now, Tim against Kade... and it's really close. The results are coming in ~10 minutes because I need to get the posts ready.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: Scorpion on April 17, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
        OK, this sounds intriguing as hell, definitely giving Brent's EP a spin.

        Also Ruslan, your anti-growl stance is slipping; next thing you know, you'll be jamming Meshuggah! ;)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 04:08:23 PM
        i've heard a lot of good things about marrow of the spirit even if it's not as universally praised as the mantle or ashes
        the mantle is barely a metal album tho, only three tracks have growls and the longest of them doesn't even have that many  :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
        Okay, so we got two most metal EPs competing now, Tim against Kade... and it's really close. The results are coming in ~10 minutes because I need to get the posts ready.

        Damn, gotta step away from the PC for a few hours.  :lol

        Let the better man win.  If I lose, I'm happy to lose to a man that loves Kip Winger more than I do.  :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 04:10:18 PM
        OK, this sounds intriguing as hell, definitely giving Brent's EP a spin.

        Also Ruslan, your anti-growl stance is slipping; next thing you know, you'll be jamming Meshuggah! ;)

        Yeah, no shit. I'm surprised as much as you are. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. My life was just an empty hollow (#3)
        Post by: Elite on April 17, 2016, 04:12:16 PM
        i've heard a lot of good things about marrow of the spirit even if it's not as universally praised as the mantle or ashes
        the mantle is barely a metal album tho, only three tracks have growls and the longest of them doesn't even have that many  :lol

        The Mantle gets my blessing.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: 425 on April 17, 2016, 04:20:48 PM
        “Zantera / Sacul music”

        :rollin

        :rollin

        This is my favorite thing that I've read all day!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See-e-e-e my comma-a-a-a-ands! (#2 and #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 04:20:56 PM
        Alright, please don't be offended. You all rock, but only one person can win this one.

        #2: wolfking

        Off the Metal Cuff EP

        UDO – Speeder
        Bob Catley – Children of the Circle
        Black Majesty – Firestorm
        Trivium – The Ghost That’s Haunting You
        Eden’s Curse – Turn the Page
        UDO – Shadow Eyes
        Trivium – The Darkness of My Mind



        U.D.O. – Speeder

        I have Accept in my banned list, true, but I actually never enjoyed Udo’s vocals that much. I think this song just emphasizes everything I don’t like about him. I know I said this before in this very roulette, and this time I was prepared since I’ve heard this singer even before I did this roulette – but it doesn’t really help Udo sounds like he’s throwing up here, or as Chad would put it, “got a little twerp in his mouth”. This song is also somewhat an opposite to a term “melodic”, because, I mean, the instruments here are melodic alright, but the vocal melodies are just the screamed parts. “Speeder! Deadlier than all! Like a wrecked ball! Faster than you are!”. There’s no melody behind these lines, just grit and the power, and I’ll be honest, I like my metal melodic enough, and this kind of song just doesn’t register with me.

        12/20

        Bob Catley – Children of the Circle


        And speaking of melodic metal, this is just how I like it. Of course, sending Bob Catley was cheating on the grand scale of things, but as long as you get a high score, who the hell cares? I love the man’s voice, I love his work with Magnum and Avantasia, and this? This isn’t an exception. I’ve got chills from the very first line. “Standing tall, we worship the night…”, damn. Chills all over.

        This was my favourite song from your EP by far. Instead of using two songs from Udo and Trivium I think you should’ve just stuck with Bob Catley, because this is the very definition of awesome. Unless this is the only highlight from his album, I fail to see why you decided not to send more songs from this… I’m listening to the song while I’m writing this and this tune is just brilliant. Fantastic pick right there.
        (I’ve no idea what he’s singing though. “We are the sickles of the miracle?” I don’t really care though, it sounds awesome and I’m content with it. I’m just imagining him waving his hand in every direction like he always does live and that makes me smile. Damn, I love seeing Catley live. He kicks ass.)

        19/20

        Black Majesty – Firestorm


        Here’s another awesome track, my second favourite from your EP. This reminds me of Nocturnal Rites, only not as kickass and impressive. Still, I think this is one of the better songs I received from you, and it does a good job to keep up with the heaviness and the overall metal style of your EP. The singer here is really impressive, the vocal melodies are well-written, the instrumental section is creative and engaging… the whole track is quite enjoyable indeed. Love it.

        And of course, the ending deserves a separate mention. The way they have this intense keyboard riff punctuated with some guitar notes lead into the reckless scream, this is bloody great.

        Sorry for the short write-up, by the way.

        18/20

        Trivium – The Ghost That’s Haunting You


        Okay, so, Trivium. I’m going to get my main complaint about this band out right now, seeing how you sent two tracks from them and all. It might sound ridiculous, but well, this is my roulette and my tastes, so you’ll just have to deal with it I guess!

        So I just think – alright, don’t laugh – that Trivium singer sounds arrogant as hell. That’s the best description I was able to come up with, really, and I feel it really does him justice, both on this song and on another one you sent my way. Now, I’m not saying it’s a real bad thing, you know; I think this song works alright, especially with the vocal melodies that are great here: “What have I done? What have I become? Standing six feet thick, and I’m the only one” is one of my favourite parts of your EP – by the way, I have no idea if those are the right lyrics. So overall this is a really solid song, but I think the band just isn’t for me. I kind of liked it, but it’s not something I would go out of my way to listen to – for example, I liked The Tea Party more. This tune sounds like a generic metal I would stay away from.

        14.5/20

        Eden’s Curse – Turn the Page


        This is a funny song, in fact, I always forget it’s actually on your EP. I’m just like, alright, Kade included Catley, UDO, Trivium and Black Majesty, nice selection of artists and wait, what is that? At the first listen I thought it was Trivium, because it actually had those melodic rock catchy melodies and I thought maybe they had a different singer, but no, this was another band entirely.

        I’ll be honest, I like this tune, but it’s just not spectacular enough to warrant an awesome score. It’s just a standard metal tune that I definitely enjoy, but that’s it.

        16/20

        U.D.O. – Shadow Eyes


        Look, it’s another Udo’s song, and I actually like this one much more than Speeder. This has some melody behind it, and I really like Udo on this tune – I haven’t put Accept on my banned list just for hoots and giggles, I like his voice on the right songs, and this is one of them. “Can you hear me, hear me calling again?” gives me chills right here, love it.

        I think that’s actually a bonus track? I don’t have time to check it right now since I’m just typing these with some incredible speed, but if it is, I’m baffled. This is loads better than Speeder, I like this song a lot. Of course, that’s the case with a lot of bonus tracks, hell, think about Over the Rainbow by Unisonic on their s/t, I think it was a Top 3 track easily. And it’s just the same thing here, awesome tune. Really liked it.

        16.5/20

        Trivium – The Darkness of My Mind


        Here’s another Trivium song where the singer sounds arrogant and not to my taste. I think the intro is really cool, and the whole song actually has some great hooks and melodies, but once again it just comes down to the singer. I can’t put my finger on it but I really dislike him for some reason.

        Obviously I can’t get past it, but I think this song is quite good despite singer getting on my nerves. They obviously tried to get the vocal melodies straight and memorable (even though I couldn’t make out the lyrics and ended up with “my sesai besai” instead of “demise is our design”), and they succeeded – this song is catchy as hell, but I wish they had different singer. Oh well, it’s kind of like beating a dead horse, isn’t it?

        15/20

        EP review:


        Well, I feel like you just took the first metal tracks you thought of and dumped them into an EP – and you probably did exactly this – but it works surprisingly well. The outcome is quite consistent and solid. I liked how you cut all the silences between tracks and I liked how consistent the EP is, always energetic, and at the same time I liked the variety – UDO was a pure metal and speed, Bob Catley was melodic as hell, Trivium were straightforward, Black Majesty was a slight foray into prog… I thought the flow worked pretty well in this EP. Good job.

        Flow points: 4/5

        The average songs score: (12 + 19 + 18 + 14.5 + 16 + 16.5 + 15) / 7 = 15.857142(857142)

        The whole EP score: 15.857142(857142) + 4 = 19.857142(857142)

        Total score: 68,5 + 19.857142(857142) = 88.357142(357142)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. See-e-e-e my comma-a-a-a-ands! (#2 and #1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 04:21:13 PM
        #1: TAC

        The TAC EP: A Bunch Of Cool Songs Plus One That Might Be Too Heavy

        Golden Resurrection – See My Commands
        Shadowquest – All One
        Lords of the Trident – Shattered Skies
        Hibria – Millenium Quest
        Innerwish – Rain of a Thousand Years
        Nightmare World – The Ever Becoming



        Golden Resurrection – See My Commands

        Kicking the EP off with a bang, Tim sent me the song from the heretic Christian band. You see, they write Christian lyrics, but their guitarist worships Gary Moore (that’s what Tim told me!). That’s certainly a unique occurrence, so I decided to avoid the lyrics whatsoever – but I have to say they’re cheesy as hell, which is fine with me – and just focus on the music.

        And this is how you open your EP with a bang. There’s nothing spectacular in this song whatsoever, but it offers me a solid cut of well-written power metal, with the playful, shredding guitars all along, decent and somewhat gritty vocals, speedy and rhythmic drumming, and some fantastic vocal melodies. I think that musically this track – and your EP represents everything you’re standing for – more on that later in the write-ups (probably in the closing one that's coming up tomorrow).

        So yeah, nice song indeed, even though – spoilers – it’s in the lower half of this EP. See my commands, get the good score.

        17/20

        Shadowquest – All One


        This song serves a great continuation to the first one, not dropping any bit of energy on this one. At the first listen, I thought this reminds me of Bloodbound and then I read your write-up and it clicked. This is less intense than most of Bloodbound material though, it’s more like a mid-paced song bordering on some hymn-like power ballad in the choruses.

        And the choruses are by far my favourite parts of this song. They’re cheesy and predictable as hell – and they’re also fit in the previous song’s theme: “I shelter you all” has almost the same number of syllables as “See my commands”, and the melodies and the message could be interpreted as the same themed-wise.

        What actually brings this song down is the pre-choruses. The verses are nice with that certain heavy metal feel Bloodbound often uses, and the choruses are typical anthemic power metal, but the pre-choruses are some anti-melodic metal or something. I also don’t like how the chorus ends with that anti-climactic moment (“Because we are the one”), going into that raw guitar riff first time and the instrumental section second time. This is an enjoyable song, no doubt about that, but I think that was my second-least favourite from the batch. But it still gets a good score… talk about consistency here.

        16/20

        Lords of the Trident – Shattered Skies


        Guess what? Another power metal song! Every EP featured some varying entries between the different genres, and you just went ahead and sent me an EP full or different kinds of power metal songs. And the thing is, I love power metal. I’m open to other genres, I like to think I’m open-minded enough, but I just can’t resist some good cheesy power metal – see my ranking for Broken Wings or Mermaids From Their Moons. I’m convinced you’re just exploiting my love for the power metal in this EP… which doesn’t make it any less good.

        This song offers a fairly standard power metal fare, even more standard than the previous two – there are no Christian lyrics or such, they’re just full-blown fantasy here. The atmosphere is less grand and more business-like too, the chugging guitars, the serious Blind Guardian-like singer, they all add to it. The chorus is a standard one too, the singer goes higher here, but there’s nothing outstanding. It’s just another solid power metal song until the instrumental break comes up. I love the calm guitar solo here – probably my favourite part of the song along with the whole instrumental part.

        The thing is, I love power metal songs. Other people may ridicule me for it, but this genre just appeals to me big time. I don’t care what other people think regarding this one. Cool song.

        17.5/20

        Hibria – Millenium Quest


        Okay Tim, I literally have no idea what you were worrying about. Have you even heard those Iris Divine and Sunburst songs? Well obviously you heard Iris Divine, but… either you were too careful or you misread my tastes by a mile. Take that: this is by far my favourite song from your EP. It’s not even close. I’ll say even more, this song is my third favourite from the whole round.

        This is power metal, yeah, and it’s leaning on the heavy side, but it’s still power metal and it’s amazing. The singer is reckless, capable of hitting some very high notes, and he reminds me of Kiske in a few moments. This band is what I wish Helloween would’ve became. Don’t get me wrong, I like the present Helloween, but this is on another level entirely. First off, this song is absolutely not too busy, it’s just perfect. Second, the singer is so relentless and awesome it’s difficult to find the proper words to describe him. And like it’s just not enough, we have the instrumental part in the middle of the song that obliterates any doubts I had about this tune.

        This song is just incredible.

        19/20

        Innerwish – Rain of a Thousand Years


        I won't lie, I liked how you put all the power metal songs in your EP, and at the same time you managed to find different power metal songs – See My Commands and All One were straightforward and serious, Shattered Skies was fantasy-like and with pronounced vibe, Hibria track was absolutely unique and unrepeatable, and this one feels like an epic one for sure. The very intro screams epic, and when the chorus comes it just reinforces that epic scale once again.

        This tune was another business-like one, and I liked it from start to finish. You said the singer has a lot of Dio in him – I noticed he has a lot of Jorn in him, and since Jorn has a lot of Dio in him, I think that’s a fair description. I liked the singer a lot, and I thought the whole song was quite great. Good pick with an epic power metal song after the relentless Hibria. The instrumental break here was very satisfying too, and I loved the way it led into the acoustic part, only to explode with “Rise!” a few seconds after. And then there are those rare harmonies in the end. Fantastic tune.

        18.5/20

        Nightmare World – The Ever Becoming

        And you decided to change the pace right at the end, closing your EP with the slow ballad-like song. And I thought you could choose better. Don’t get me wrong, the instrumentation here is wonderful, I especially appreciate the slow, melodic electric guitar soloing both in the intro and the instrumental part, and it’s also nice how the rest is mostly acoustic guitar and vocals and some keyboards creating the musical landscapes.

        But the thing is, the vocals are bordering on annoying for me here, and the vocal melodies actually are annoying. The parts with “Yes even you can become confused” are the best example of that, but overall the whole vocal performance on this song could be much better. The instrumental parts here are wonderful (especially the solo at 2:20), but the other parts aren’t that brilliant, and this doesn’t bode well with this song’s score.

        14/20

        EP review:


        Well you decided not to take any chances and just sent me a full-blown power metal EP. And guess what, I think it’s one of the best EPs I received. I thought it was quite well done, it’s also very energetic and somewhat varied despite mostly done in one style. There’s only one song on your EP I’m not too fond of, but, ironically, it will give you some additional points, because it’s essential to the overall flow, in my opinion. I just wish you found a better song to fill that spot. All in all, I really like power metal, and really liked almost all the songs you sent my way… obviously the score will be high. Good picks all around.

        Flow points: 4/5

        The average songs score: (17 + 16 + 17.5 + 19 + 18.5 + 14) / 6 = 17

        The whole EP score: 17 + 4 = 21

        Total score: 69 + 21 = 90

        Congratulations! You won! Now you can tell Chad to shut up because you are on the scoreboard.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 04:25:21 PM
        I'll do a round-up farewell post tomorrow, because honestly, it's 1:30 A.M. here and I've got get up at 5 A.M., which means I've got exactly 3 hours and a half to sleep, which sucks big time.

        So thank you everyone for following this, and tune in tomorrow for that last post if you even care about that.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 17, 2016, 04:49:03 PM
        Congrats to DTF's resident Kip-lover! :metal

        Too bad to see Trivium having played a pretty big factor in losing wolfking the crown, along with UDO of course. I kinda don't like Trivium's all clean songs as much, the metalcore stuff ala Ascendancy worked best for them IMO (alas, harsh verses, clean chorus), In Waves is great too tho. The song I momentarily considered for this roulette is all clean too apart from like 2 lines, but has a more agressive tone to the vocals to give it some more power. (That song would be Built to Fall from In Waves)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 05:30:09 PM
        Congrats to Tim for his first win!! 

        I got a lot of catchup reading to do tonight/tomorrow.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: senecadawg2 on April 17, 2016, 05:59:57 PM
        Congratulations Tim, indeed!

        (but I should say--that's not his first win. He also won my second roulette)
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
        Congrats to Tim for his first win!! 

        I got a lot of catchup reading to do tonight/tomorrow.

        Ditto - won't get time to read up properly until much later today but congrats to Tim and Ruslan on a job well done , even if the end result was unacceptable  ;D
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: TAC on April 17, 2016, 06:33:00 PM

        (https://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/artist-news/dream-theater/mike-mangini-gets-news-460-100-460-70.jpg)


        Woot!

        I think I'm gonna go to Disney World!

        Oh wait, I'm already here!!

        Thanks Ruslan. More in the AM. Space Mountain now!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Big Hath on April 17, 2016, 06:34:05 PM
        congrats, TAC!




        so yeah, when Almanac got banned last round, it got replaced with guess what, DMB and Soundgarden.  Oh well.  I also had Hibria in that slot at one point, but your comments about songs being too heavy scrapped that one.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Crow on April 17, 2016, 06:35:27 PM
        so let me get this straight, during this roulette, evermind
        1. liked a djent song
        2. liked the growls in a song

        what the hell
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: TAC on April 17, 2016, 06:56:29 PM
        Congratulations Tim, indeed!

        (but I should say--that's not his first win. He also won my second roulette)

        Right! JBoy thinks the Canadian Excgange Rate reduces roulette wins too.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 06:57:51 PM
        Well done Tim!!!

        And yeah, that Bob Catley album is superb Ruslan, check it out. 
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: lonestar on April 17, 2016, 07:39:38 PM
        Congrats Timmy boy!!!
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: TAC on April 17, 2016, 08:16:06 PM
        Thank you :tup
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 09:25:57 PM
        Congratulations Tim, indeed!

        (but I should say--that's not his first win. He also won my second roulette)

        Right! JBoy thinks the Canadian Excgange Rate reduces roulette wins too.

        Jesus... you got the Shmeglands over here too!!!  Get your ass back on vacation man!

        And yes, the exchange does affect wins.  I'm only at 3.25 wins ... still more than you :neverusethis: 

        Well, congratulations to graduating to the big-boy font.   :D :-*
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 17, 2016, 10:27:28 PM
        (alas, harsh verses, clean chorus)

        Good description. :lol

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 10:29:32 PM
        That was a lot of reading!  Not much here that I need to go and check out - naturally, it's Brent's that I haven't already heard.  That Empty Holllow Suite sounds sweet. I already know the acts, or the submissions were recycled from what they sent me at some point - though it wasn't RJ who gave me Sun Caged.  Jon maybe?  Can't be bothered to look it up atm... it's late.

        DMB and Soundgarden?  You sir have the balls of an uncaged rhino roaming the Serengeti.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: TAC on April 18, 2016, 05:54:08 AM
        I did.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The god of man is a failure (#5)
        Post by: Sacul on April 18, 2016, 10:25:10 AM
        “Zantera / Sacul music”

         :rollin
        I'm gonna sig this :lol
        Done. It's beautiful. Thanks, Ev.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 18, 2016, 11:37:10 AM
        :lol

        Alright, the wrap-up post and another round of PMs will be posted / sent-out tomorrow instead of today because Monday. I hate those. But I never failed to meet a deadline for posting results, so I guess it's alright now.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: jingle.boy on April 18, 2016, 06:38:21 PM
        Lonestar

        StarGate – The Wonders of Nature / Save the World
        15.5/20

        Secret Sphere – Wish & Steadiness
        12.5/20

        bl5150

        Pathosray – The Sad Game
        15.5/20

        Labyrinth – State of Grace
        13/20

        Protip to everyone - stay away from Italian Power Metal.

        You boys should’ve listened to ole jingle.boy.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2016, 06:54:53 PM
        Vision Divine did well earlier so that negates the argument a bit.

        In the end i was happy enough with the Pathosray mark - it was a risk to send such a frantic song and it really doesn't sound like traditional Italian power prog.   I was hoping that Ruslan wouldn't notice the fucking awful cymbal sound on that as it was driving me crazy after repeated listens  :lol  He didn't mention it but it may have annoyed him subconsciously.

        Labyrinth I was expecting to be weakest but not that weak.  Beautiful song IMO but wouldn't have sent to Ruslan if it didn't match the theme.  In the end I went for broke on the theme (trying to make up ground there) as I knew it would be hard to gain 2 pts just with songs against this competition.  In the end I failed but had a red hot go  :)

        PS  I have just discovered the perfect song that would've fit the theme and replaced the Labyrinth :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. Perpetual power to rule the times (#1)
        Post by: Evermind on April 19, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
        Vision Divine was great, yep. I don't pay a lot of attention to drums so no, I actually didn't. I might have to listen again to it just for fun.

        PS  I have just discovered the perfect song that would've fit the theme and replaced the Labyrinth :lol

        That's how it always happens!



        Alright folks, I've sent the second (and the last) round of PMs, check them out if you're interested. I don't have a lot more to say actually, I feel like I said all I needed in the post before the results:

        Quote
        I wanted to thank you all guys for participating in this, taking your time to send me the songs, writing in this thread, keeping it off the second page, being so active and so interested. I wanted this to be an awesome roulette, and all of you who accepted my invites, all of you who decided to play even if you didn't receive an invite, all of you who frequented this thread, you made it more awesome with each post. I loved how it turned out. I won't host another roulette for a while, but I can safely say this was a blast and it was much more than I could hope for. Thank you everyone.

        So yeah, there.



        Now, you probably don't care about that, but I feel obligated to tell you this anyway. :lol Regarding to what I'm up next DTF-wise, well, I'm going to use the rest of this year (and most probably a chunk of the next one too) to check out all the awesome music you folks sent me in this roulette, and I'm going to be a bit more strict about it than I was after my first roulette, I'm going to make a list and planning to be getting through albums on the weekly basis. You can definitely expect some thoughts on those records from me in "What album are you listening to?" thread.

        Eventually (I think in the second half in 2017, but could be earlier, no promises), I'll run another Top 50 albums list, where I'll post 50 best albums I've discovered because of DTF (idea shamelessly stolen from Chad). There are some fierce competition already, and with all the albums I'm going to discover now after this roulette, this is going to be interesting. Everyone who played in either of my roulettes might want to check that out.

        Regarding the Polls / Survivors section, I've got Kamelot Survivor up and running this year, so join in and vote if you feel like it; and I plan to run a massive Arjen Lucassen-related Survivor in 2017 if there will be enough interest - and I think there may be, so stay tuned for that too.

        If everything works out, I'm also planning a trip to Germany in 2017, the time is unknown as of yet and will depend on my work / my favourite bands' concert schedule / and if Gilmour will be playing anywhere in 2017 I'll probably go to that country instead of Germany. Those are some long-term plans and it's all contemplative right now, but I'm just throwing it out there.

        Finally, I'm also determined to kick your asses in the roulettes this year, so I'll meet you in those other threads! :biggrin:

        So, thank you folks for reading this, and on this positive, hopeful and determined note I'm out. :lol



        P.S. I forgot to include the link to one EP in your PM message, and it says I've exceeded the limit of PMs I can send for an hour. I'll send the remaining link to you a bit later. :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The Aftermath
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 19, 2016, 11:02:36 AM
        Wow, all is said and done folks, not quite the 50 pages but yeah this was one active roulette man.. it went by so quickly tho.

        Top 50 albums based on DTF discoveries sounds pretty cool, might do something like that for my v2 aswell, either that or just "favorite discoveries over the last (..) years", something like 2014 up until then. Because I've gotten a ton of shit through reddit, spotify and even last.fm too.

        Depending on my living situation next year I would be down for a meetup in germany if there's a cool concert or something related, it's not too far but I don't know if I'll have a job that allows me to go on trips like that next year, along with paying rent and shit.

        I might end up checking out those EP's, the Earth, Wind & Fire one in particular because I'm interested how those Thrice songs fit in the EP, and those last two Agalloch tunes sounded pretty cool even though I'm still a bit turned off by the vocals.
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The Aftermath
        Post by: Evermind on April 19, 2016, 11:36:22 AM
        We're usually renting a flat in the country we're travelling to (I'm going with two friends and that's what we did in Netherlands), so if you'll need to live somewhere in Germany for a day or two I think this can be arranged easily. But yeah, this is all just a speculation until the New Year anyway. We planned the Netherlands trip early (I think November 2014 and the actual trip was September 2015), but this happened because The Theater Equation show was announced early.

        My Europe-travelling plans definitely include attending a gig or two, so I'll be choosing the trip time accordingly. Bonus points if it's the band that never comes to Russia.

        And Casper, your PM inbox is full so I can't send you link to Nelson's EP.

        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The Aftermath
        Post by: Train of Naught on April 19, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
        Makes sense, yeah it's too soon to really arrange this kind of thing but it would be cool. As long as I'm not traveling for like a Gloryhammer concert or something I would consider it :lol
        Title: Re: Evermind's Second Roulette v. The Aftermath
        Post by: Crow on April 19, 2016, 09:50:34 PM
        time for the rest of the mystical best-of-roulette album, because i care apparently

        1. Psychopomp
        the build throughout this song is quite good and there's a lot of different cool little moments, the instrumentation is all-around solid. the climax at the end is great too. this is really pretty good
        2. Handcuffs
        i'd listen to you if i had the time
        3. The Lonely View of Condors
        i don't really have a lot to say about this other than "it was pretty solid and i wasn't bored at all"
        4. Time Immemorial
        i think i listened to this album after getting This Right Here in my roulette. this one's nice but doesn't really have the emotional presence of This Right Here imo
        5. Mermaids From Their Moons
        ahh, there's the solid and pretty standard power metal that i'm pretty meh on
        6. The Bold Move
        the production on this kind of bugs me but it's got a pretty cool flow to it, gets pretty intense at times but nice and melancholic at other times
        7. Black and White World
        ahh, redemption, the band nobody sent in my roulette. man, i have nothing to say about this. it's ok
        8. Rhyme of the False Orchestra
        i dunno i guess the strings there are all fake apparently? wow. you lied to me. anyways this is alright but kinda generic really
        9. Winter
        this is really quite good, i might relisten to it later
        10. The Bonding
        sorry but i already listened to this once, and it's 15 minutes long

        anyways i'm off to review a djent album now