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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 08:50:28 PM
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OK, after it was discussed in the other thread a few days ago, you guys knew this was coming!
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Skip 'em all
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First is best.
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Skip 'em all
Ditto.
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Well there you go, I added an option for you. :lol
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Considering JR's love for electronic music, I kinda expected some more elaborate pieces as the NOMAC tracks.
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Considering JR's love for electronic music, I kinda expected some more elaborate pieces as the NOMAC tracks.
Well, to be fair, I don't think the intention was to make them sound too awesome. Either JP or JR described them as "bad music" or something similar in one of the interviews.
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There's one of them that sounds like dubstep that made me go like 'hey, that's kinda cool'.
Can't remember which one, will listen to the album once again tomorrow and I'll vote.
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The Hovering Sojourn scared the shit out of me while listening to the album, so I'll give it props for that
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I love how the NOMACS appear whenever Daryus has his moments (except Power Down).
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They're all a really big disappointment. I actually expected something electronic that would make sense, not just random noises strapped together.
Digital Discord has a really scary start that kinda reminds me of War of Worlds so I'll give it that, but I just skip all the others.
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I thought this was a troll thread.
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Skip 'em all
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There's one of them that sounds like dubstep that made me go like 'hey, that's kinda cool'.
Can't remember which one, will listen to the album once again tomorrow and I'll vote.
Think it's Digital Discord, that one gets my vote for favourite random noises.
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It's a tie for me between Digital Discord and Hovering Sojourn. I gave the vote to HS out of eenie-meanie-minie-moe.
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Honestly I love all of them. They're just so fucking crazy
they also remind me of half life in multiple ways
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Lucien...you and I...we are the same. (Go see my recent post in the TA thread :lol )
*HIGH FIVE BRO*
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they also remind me of half life in multiple ways
This. I recently listened to some tracks from the soundtrack and I found them to be in a similar spirit, very videogame-y.
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Machine Chatter and then The Hover Sojourn
I really wish they developed one of the NOMAC tracks into an actual full blown song.
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I actually really like them.
They do not overstay their welcome and there is a sense of ambient/dubstep to them at times, along with adding to the atmosphere of the album as a whole. In context of the album, I like Hovering Sojourn the most. Not skipping material for me.
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I really wish they developed one of the NOMAC tracks into an actual full blown song.
I once thought this, then realized that the in the story, the NOMACS were supposed to be the antithesis to music, which actually numbed people into the mindset where they "don't have the time for music anymore and no one seems to care."
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Honestly, I don't remember any of them, they are Segueing tracks anyway
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Machine Chatter is the only one that have a sort of rhythm, so I guess its that ;D
They all serve their purpose I think, they arent supposed to be considered as music tracks, but more as interludes. I dont think the band will be offended if we skip them after the first few listens ;)
On that topic, could it be that this is DTs way of showing dissaproval toward dubstep music?
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That's pretty farfetch'd, and I think they are pretty respecting people. But of course there's a chance you could be right ;D
Machine Chatter or Descent of the Nomacs is probably my favorite.
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That's pretty farfetch'd
(https://i.imgur.com/i5U5U3h.png)
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:2metal:
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The Hovering Sojourn was kind of cool!
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I have to say The Hovering Sojourn
It had a really cool sort of feel to it and I knew it was only going to be around 28 seconds long (shortest track ever released by the band) but I actually found myself wanting to hear it for a little bit longer, which is the reason it gets my vote because normally any music like that I completely dislike when I hear it in other contexts, that being said this is DT after all and I really valued all the NOMAC tracks for what they were supposed to be
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i came here to post this exact poll.
(i love machine chatter).
:hefdaddy
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Considering JR's love for electronic music, I kinda expected some more elaborate pieces as the NOMAC tracks.
If he were to create a solo concept album based around this idea, I think that would be intense. I wouldn't hate it at all...
Following Jakepriest, I love the War of the Worlds feel of Digital Discord, plus it feels like the most adaptive seguing noise machine on the album.
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Needless segues.
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Considering JR's love for electronic music, I kinda expected some more elaborate pieces as the NOMAC tracks.
Agreed, at some points on the NOMAC tracks I thought Rudess was gonna pull some amazing aggressive dub step on us, big missed opportunity to go nuts with that.
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Machine Chatter. Because of the drum beat, makes it more listenable. But I kind of like all of them for how off the wall they are- but I couldn't stand it if they were longer than they are.
I agree with the others that wish JR pulled some more intense dubstep type stuff though.
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Digital Discord is the least voted, and is my favourite, and Machine Chatter is one of my least favourites and is most voted. lol
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Pointless noice imo. Luckily, files can easily be deleted.
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Cool stuff! I really dig 'em, I think that they're something that the band has never done and it fits in the flow of the album. They are so eerie.The best ones are Descent and Power Down.
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I actually like 'Digital Discord' and 'Power Down'....an eeriness, and love the back and forth stereo.
A good way of dividing up listening sequences. And....I'll bet the videos and effects will be excellent in concert.
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Plus, it will give the band little breaks in between chunks of songs live, instead of them having to play Act 1 from start to finish with no break (which would be exhausting for guys in their 20s, much less 50+).
I doubt I will listen to them much ever, but I get why they are there.
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I really hope the NOMAC track will be a little long live, that'd be sweet.
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I actually like 'Digital Discord' and 'Power Down'....an eeriness, and love the back and forth stereo.
These are my 2 favorite ones too. Power Down has several repeating themes, like robotic riffs I guess, and Digital Discord has some dubstep sounds. I think they are the most unique ones.
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'Machine Chatter'....almost sounds as if it wants to take off into 'Build Me Up, Break Me Down'........
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'Machine Chatter'....almost sounds as if it wants to take off into 'Build Me Up, Break Me Down'........
I noticed that too. Hmmm... "Bad music", huh? ;)
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I voted for the Descent of the NOMACS as it felt really ominous and really gave us the first glimpse of the tyranny of Nafaryus, and I when I listen to it for the first time I felt I was going to witness something special
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Machine Chatter, easily. I really like that one, and have listened to it by itself several times.
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I made my own video here, Descent of NOMACS Video
https://vimeo.com/153834854
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I actually really like them.
They do not overstay their welcome and there is a sense of ambient/dubstep to them at times, along with adding to the atmosphere of the album as a whole. In context of the album, I like Hovering Sojourn the most. Not skipping material for me.
This, I think they are cool.
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Power Down. I think it's the most "catchy" NOMAC track out of them all. The menacing noise machines are finally shut down for good, and it's dramatic (For machine sounds, at least). :biggrin:
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I highly enjoy the NOMAC tracks, they're actually quite well-made for what they are, just being dissonant senseless noise. They make a nice break in the music that help the flow.
Probably have to go with Machine Chatter because it actually has a beat and some melodic qualities to it.
Descent is also an amazingly disturbing, scary, and urgent beginning to the album that is very fitting.
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If it's at all possible, I'm totally dressing up as a NOMAC for Halloween.
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If it's at all possible, I'm totally dressing up as a NOMAC for Halloween.
That would be amazing...and have something playing the NOMAC sounds attached to you as you move around. You'd get a lot of really interesting reactions.
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If it's at all possible, I'm totally dressing up as a NOMAC for Halloween.
And have Pac Man as your backup plan for when nobody knows wtf you are. :lol
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If it's at all possible, I'm totally dressing up as a NOMAC for Halloween.
And have Pac Man as your backup plan for when nobody knows wtf you are. :lol
True that, maybe I'll do it for the show. :nomac:
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I want a medley of all of them, just...so...beautiful....... :'(
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The first one, because THE REAPERS ARE COMING
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Voted Machine Chatter, mainly for the addition of the drum machine to add a bit of rhythm. Also interesting is how the NOMAC sounds pop up in other tracks as well, such as A Savior in the Square (before the trumpet fanfare).
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Voted Machine Chatter, mainly for the addition of the drum machine to add a bit of rhythm.
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Is it just me, or does anyone else hear what sounds like the "F" bomb dropped at the 0:37 mark of Machine Chatter? :lol
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Hahaha. Funny poll. There is a track on the 2nd cd that I accidentally skip sometimes because it sounds like a NOMAC track at first.
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Power Down. I think it's the most "catchy" NOMAC track out of them all. The menacing noise machines are finally shut down for good, and it's dramatic (For machine sounds, at least). :biggrin:
This absolutely...!...plus it's the only one that I consider to be an important part of the story. You don't really need to hear the rest of them, because they're not really referenced in any of the songs that follow them, except maybe at the beginning. But hearing them being shut down, finally and forever, in my opinion makes a really good point of illustrating what this was all about, why all the sacrifices were made, and what the Ravenskill people were trying to accomplish.
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machine chatter since it knows odd-time signatures
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I really like how they expand the NOMAC tracks during live perfomances, so The Hovering Sojourn is definitely my favourite of the altered tracks. My favourite studio NOMAC track is still Power Down. :)
Edit: No love for the latter it seems. :lol None is voted more than poor Power Down.
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I know, and I have no idea why...I love Power Down. If anything it was the closest to what I expected these tracks to sound like in the first place.
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Power Down ends with total silence, and then starts Astonishing. I totally understand that silence is the whole point of the piece, the NOMACs are shut down for good, but I feel that for a powerful contrast it would have been better if the silence was missing and Astonishing started straight away. I actually skip it myself, when Power Down is about to end I skip immediately to Astonishing and the contrast between the last "noises" and the glorious beginning of the title track is powerful.
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This may quite possibly be the silliest topic ever discussed in this section. :tick2:
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I would say the "What if DT were an all-girl band" or "Dream Theater Hair" threads would have won that award, personally. :P
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There's a lot of competition.
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Aww, come on guys! I actually like all these tracks, they're really fun. The bass on them when playing in my car or at home is great! They're so short too, so I never skip them. I want to put :metal but it doesn't quite seem to apply :lol
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After repeated listens, I think I like best Machine Chatter
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As an up and coming dubstep fan, i have to say that the Nomac tracks are simply amazing. It's really a toss up what my favorite is, it would have to be the Digital Discord track that would be my favorite. Sounds like something that would start off an Excision song.
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Digital Discord, there is something quite creepy about it especially because it follows A Tempting Offer.
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My answer hasn't changed since the album came out. Decent of the Nomacs is awesome. It sets the mood for the whole album and the way it goes from that to Dystopian Overture is fantastic.
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March of the Machines.
Oh wait.... :biggrin:
Machine Chatter is my personal favorite but Power Down is close because after seeing TA live, Power Down was SO loud, and that was the best way to experience these tracks imo.
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March of the Machines.
Oh wait.... :biggrin:
Machine Chatter is my personal favorite but Power Down is close because after seeing TA live, Power Down was SO loud, and that was the best way to experience these tracks imo.
Yeah it was. Those tracks were good bass heavy venue shaking interludes.
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March of the Machines.
Oh wait.... :biggrin:
Machine Chatter is my personal favorite but Power Down is close because after seeing TA live, Power Down was SO loud, and that was the best way to experience these tracks imo.
Yeah it was. Those tracks were good bass heavy venue shaking interludes.
I remember that... it was awesome. Those tracks really came to life with the loudness of the PA. I remember really enjoying Descent of the NOMACS and Power down.
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I love The Astonishing, but I have skipped over the NOMAC tracks EVERY time. I've NEVER heard a single one..once.
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I love The Astonishing, but I have skipped over the NOMAC tracks EVERY time. I've NEVER heard a single one..once.
You love The Astonishing but you never even listened to them the first time? Why not?
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I love The Astonishing, but I have skipped over the NOMAC tracks EVERY time. I've NEVER heard a single one..once.
The extended ones they did on tour made them more worthwhile and maybe a bit more cool, for lack of a better word. On the album, it's just space for Jordan to go Weedly-Deedly and make random noises for 30 seconds and sadly on Disc 1, cut off the outro of A New Beginning. I would have gladly sacrificed bippity boppity boo from JR for 30 more seconds of that guitar solo and give that track a more definite ending rather than a fade out.
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They're all just utter nonesense. Totally disrupt the flow of the album, compositionally. Don't add anything of value. I deleted them from my library, permanently. I always listen to the 29 actual songs in order, without the NOMAC tracks. Those tracks were a terrible idea, and are one of the few things that keep the album from being perfect.
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The first one establishes the presense of the Nomacs, the last one shows them going away. Seems pretty important, although the other one/s probably aren't needed
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The first one establishes the presense of the Nomacs, the last one shows them going away. Seems pretty important, although the other one/s probably aren't needed
IMHO:
Descent of the Nomacs: description of the dystopian empire and the Nomac is his symbol.
The Hovering Sojourn: the Nomacs are sent by the Emperor to Ravenskill as a further threat.
Digital Discord: as creepy as it is, it sorts of describe Daryus' "offer that you can't refuse" to Arhys.
Machine Chatter: the Nomacs communicate with each other about Arhys' death. (someone has already mentioned this somewhere)
Power Down: the fall of the Nomacs and the rise of a new world.