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So... hi. It's been a bit more than a year since my last roulette, and it's time for more controversy :P
So I've been running a list with my favorite albums, but this one turned up before than expected - the roulette will officially start when the list is over, which should be in a few days. My tastes have changed since v1, and expanded a bit, yet I feel there's much to explore left, so I hope you folks help me fill some pretty big, obvious holes in my musical library (think of most of classic prog or rock/metal bands from the 60s to the 80s). Trying to explain my current tastes wouldn't be enough with just a list of 50 albums, therefore I've written a few pages of text trying to make sense of what I like or not. Will get to it later though, for I want to explain some fundamental part of this roulette, and the most delicate, but also the one likely to turn off some people - just read all first, please.
You may have noticed in my sig, besides the nice quotes, there's a link that says "The To-Listen List Project". Well, long story short, it's a little pet project I started first with the intention of having a list with all the albums I wanted to check out (a proto version of it can be found on my first roulette), but kept expanding it with lots of classic albums I needed to check out, and some that looked interesting. Thing is... this list is too fucking long, that I even had to put it as an online spreadsheet file. It has, as of date, a total of 1877 records, spanning most of the musical genres in existence. Yes, even power metal, country, grindcore, hip-hop, electropop, and the like :lol My goal here is to give every kind of music a fair chance, so don't be afraid to send whatever you want!
So I started listening to some random albums from it, and while there where lots of meh stuff, found some gold. A few even ended up in my top 50. But... there are still a fucking lot of them. No, I won't delete any. But thought... doing another roulette would fill me with, like 50 new albums or more, not counting those already included in the list. You can now see where this is going, right? But wait, before you go, let me explain exactly how this will go - I've given much thought as to how to handle this, trying to find a balance between the players and their choices, and my own sanity.
So, now...
Rules- A max of 15 players.
- 10 rounds with no theme, one final EP round with top 5 players.
- Scoring out of 5, and in case I need quarter of a point, a plus (+) will be added.
- No bonus points for whatever arbitrary reason.
- My scoring will be a bit harsh, but not as much as some other hosts ;)
- Submissions for rounds shall be sent within 48 hours after results are posted - you'll be PM'd in case you don't send in the required time.
- You must send, excluding the final round, at least 5 songs belonging to albums on the list (that aren't scored a 3.5 out of 5 or more - that means they're banned, and the artist too). Of course you can send songs from the list in all the rounds, but sending more than the required will not get you extra points, but a thank you from me.
- You can send songs from the list in any of the 10 rounds.
- The preferred way of sending songs is Spotify links. If your entry is not there, or you don't have Spotify, then YT links. Neither? Email (saculs78@gmail.com) me the file in a MEGA link.
- PLEASE, when you send a song, let me know if it belongs to an album on the list or not - that way I can keep track of your list-only submissions.
- Length limit: 10 mins, and up 30 extra seconds, but no more unless specified.
Useful links:- The mighty list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1io9VW-0m2l9pymIrTZSkeDJvJqdzS4JqBc1obgiFToc/edit?usp=sharing)
- Top 50 albums thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45264.0)
- Top 100 albums (https://oi68.tinypic.com/mtt8yh.jpg). Here's the list (https://oi66.tinypic.com/152yhdt.jpg) with their names. Every band on the top is banned.
- My tastes (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hRCmZJYVjEgzPiPaZcTtRAvJgPz51RuBJ-U-UWk3jls/edit?usp=sharing) (I do really recommend you giving this a read)
- Last.fm (https://www.last.fm/user/Saculs78) (not very accurate so don't trust it much)
- SputnikMusic profile (https://www.sputnikmusic.com/user/Sacul) (anything rated with a 3 or more is banned)
- Spotify playlists: Round One (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/03eTsoTFb7VYviP9LCVc9a), Round Two (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/48mwwQv0sRl2bBl13B3mwn), Round Three (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/6f7fB2J9QZq5IBhsP2efeG), Round Four (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/6KCWT5lhrDz0LuOB8XLsZ1), Round Five (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/2pCyKDw9BkfNCndSvlhvmR), Round Six (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/0eGv6Sd3mNgRcjTsLqm8lK), Round Seven (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/0PHC4gTKQMXXaXeE9niskN), Round Eight (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/4cSQVkW3I9ANpf8bBYxgEO), Round Nine, Round Ten . Best of Roulette (https://open.spotify.com/user/11123994595/playlist/06y1ngBSpSk5LjS9bQwevp).
- Finals' EP and score system (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45491.msg2125902#msg2125902).
Don't worry about the list, I've been adding most of DTF's favs, some of your typical submissions on roulettes, and even Coldplay and Winger :lol
Participants
- Evermind
- Shadow Ninja 2.0
- Sneakyblueberry
- mikemangioy
- Biskit
- Tyrias
- Parama
- 425
- Fluffy Lothario
- Train of Naught
- Bolsters
- splent
- Elite
- home
- senecadawg2
If you're on this list but don't want to/can't participate, let me know.
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Banned artists
As a rule of thumb, any artist with a rating of 3.5 or more in the list or on SputnikMusic, is banned. If it has a rating of 3 or below, you can send it, but NOT from the album that has such rating in the list. For example, you can send me a Coheed and Cambria song that doesn’t belong to Afterman: Ascension, but not one from that album.
It goes without saying, but the following list contains completely banned artists - the next one is more of a guide, as those bands are kinda allowed, yet not recommended (all in accordance to what was stated in the previous paragraph, ofc). All the songs I was sent in my previous roulette are banned too (you can find them at the end).
Happy zone (a.k.a. bands/artists I quite like - the ones I love are bolded)
0edit/Ed Harrison
A Silver Mt. Zion
Algiers
Alter Bridge
Amon Amarth
Amon Tobin
Anamanaguchi
Anathema
Antonio Vivaldi
Aphrodite's Child
Árstíðir
Ayreon
BADBADNOTGOOD
Beardfish
Bent Knee
Between the Buried and Me
Beyond the Bridge
Blackfield
Blue Sky Black Death
Boris
Boston
Brand New
Burial
Casualties of Cool
Chelsea Wolfe
Chimp Spanner
Converge
Daft Punk
David Gilmour
David Maxim Micic
Dead Can Dance
Death Grips
Depeche Mode (only Violator is banned)
Destiny Potato
Destrage
Devin Townsend/Band/Project
Diablo Swing Orchestra
DJ Shadow
Dream Theatre
Dredg
Faith no More
Flying Colors
Gazpacho
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Green Carnation
Haken
Hammock
Have a Nice Life
Hybrid
iamthemorning
Infected Mushroom
J.S. Bach
Janelle Monae
Jethro Tull
Kanye West
Kashiwa Daisuke
Kendrick Lamar
King Crimson
Liquid Tension Experiment
Lunatic Soul
Mark Knopfler
Marketa Irglova
Massive Attack
Maudlin of the Well
Megadeth
Mike Oldfield
Neutral Milk Hotel
Nils Frahm
Nine Inch Nails
No-Man
Obsidian Kingdom
Opeth
Orphaned Land (only All is One is banned)
OSI
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Portishead
Pure Reason Revolution
Queensryche
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Rammstein
Refused
Riverside
Ruined Machines
Shpongle
Sigur Rós
Spiritualized
Steven Wilson
Sufjan Stevens
Swans
TesseracT
The Chemical Brothers
The Mars Volta
The Prodigy
The Who
Ulver
Danger list (a.k.a. bands I'm meh about/think they're just ok, but might give them another chance)
A Perfect Circle
A Tribe Called Quest
Agalloch
Alcest (only familiar with their debut)
American Football
Angra
Animals as Leaders
Beastie Boys
Bjork
Brian Eno
Circus Maximus
Coheed and Cambria
Cult of Luna
Cynic
Deafheaven
Death
Dire Straits
Earth (Earth 2 is the most boring thing ever)
Fates Warning
Flaming Row
Flying Lotus
Future of the Left
Future Sound of London
Genesis
Gorillaz
IQ
Kate Bush
Leprous
Meshuggah
Mogwai
MONO
Mr. Bungle
Mullmuzzler
Muse
My Bloody Valentine
Nas
Nirvana
Oceansize
Red House Painters
Shining
Stars of the Lid
Steve Reich
Strapping Young Lad
Subterranean Masquerade
Symphony X
Tool (only familiar with Lateralus)
Yes
Songs from the first roulette (The scores have been updated to the format I’m gonna use this time. Also, I’ve changed some I felt were unfair or too generous back then)
A Perfect Circle - The Outsider (Score: 3.5/5)
Agalloch - Odal (Score: +4/5)
Agent Fresco - A long Time Listening (Score: 4.5/5)
Alcest - Souvenirs d'un autre monde (Score: +4/5)
Alex & Jonsi - Boy 1904 (Score: +4/5)
Alter Bridge - Blackbird (Score: 4.5/5)
Amon Amarth - Embrace of the Endless Ocean (Score: +4/5)
Antonin Dvorak - New World Symphony, II. Largo (Score: +4/5)
Árstíðir - Heidin (Score: 4/5)
Assemblage 23 - The Cruelest Year (Score: +4/5)
Autumn Moonlight - Ghost (Score: +4/5)
Avantasia - The Scarecrow (Score: 3.5/5)
Beach House - Myth (Score: 4/5)
Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time (Score: +4/5)
Blues Brothers - Rubber Biscuit (live) (Score: +3/5)
Boston - Foreplay/Long Time (Score: 4.5/5)
Brand New - Limousine (Score: 4.5/5)
Caligula's Horse - Vanishing Rites (Score: 4/5)
Cartographer - A Sea Of Sunshine, But None For You (Score: +3/5)
David Gilmour - Where We Start (Score: 4.5/5)
Deep Purple - When a Blind Man Cries (Score: 3/5)
Demians - Naive (Score: +4/5)
Destrage - Smell You Later Fishy (Score: 3.5/5)
Destrage - Where the Things Have no Colour (Score: +4/5)
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (Score: 4/5)
dredg - Cartoon Showroom (Score: 4/5)
Dredg - The Canyon Behind Her (Score: +4/5)
Fair To Midland - vice/versa (Score: 4/5)
Flaming Row - Time Mirror (Score: 4/5)
Frameshift - La Mer (Score: 4/5)
Frost* - Toys (Score: +3/5)
Gov't Mule - Forevermore (Score: +3.5/5)
Grayceon - War's End (Score: +4/5)
Guro Von Germeten - Fa Fa (Come Stand Before me) (Score: +4/5)
Half Moon Run - No More Losing the War (Score: +3.5/5)
InVertigo - Darkness (Score: 3.5/5)
IQ - Closer (Score: 4/5)
Iron Maiden - Paschendale (Score: +3.5/5)
Iron Maiden - Rime of the ancient mariner (Score: +3/5)
ISIS - Backlit (Score: 2.5/5)
Jon Lord - Sarabande (Score: 4/5)
Kevin Gilbert - Song for a Dead Friend (Score: 3.5/5)
Led Zeppelin - That's the Way (Score: 3.5/5)
Leprous - Forced Entry (Score: 3.5/5)
Lucien - Overture to Winter (Score: 4/5)
Ludwig von Beethoven - Symphony 7, Movement 2 (Score: 4.5/5)
Mark Knopfler - Privateering (Score: +4/5)
Kamelot - Memento Mori (Score: 3/5)
Mono - Everlasting Light (Score: 4.5/5)
Myrath - My Inner War (Score: 4/5)
Need - Mother Madness (Score: +3.5/5)
Nightingale - The One (Score: 2/5)
Oceansize - You Wish (Score: 4/5)
Pain of Salvation - A Trace of Blood (Score: 3.5/5)
Peter Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake Finale (Score: 4.5/5)
Peter Tchaikovsky - Symphony 5, Finale (Score: +3/5)
Philip Glass - Opening (Score: 4/5)
Pink Floyd - Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun (Score: +3/5)
Pink Floyd - Sorrow (Score: 3/5)
Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae (Score: +4/5)
Red House Painters - Katy Song (Score: 3.5/5)
Redemption - Love Kill Us All / Life in One Day (Score: 3/5)
Rush - Where is my thing? (Score: 4/5)
Russian Circles - Burial (Score: 3.5/5)
Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings (Score: +4/5)
Schizoid Lloyd - Misanthrope Puppet (Score: +4/5)
Shadow Circus - Ixchel (Score: 3/5)
Shpongle - Star Shpongled Banner (Score: +4.5/5)
Sigh - Amnesia (Score: +3.5/5)
Sonata Arctica - Don't Say a Word (Score: +3/5)
Star One - Cassandra Complex (Score: +2.5/5)
Storm Corrosion - Drag Ropes (Score: +3/5)
Susanne Sundfør - White Foxes (Score: +4.5/5)
Swans - Helpless Child (Score: 3.5/5)
Tenhi - Huomen (Score: 3.5/5)
The Album Leaf - Window (Score: 3.5/5)
The Contortionist - Language I: Intuition (Score: 3/5)
Transatlantic - Duel with the Devil (Score: 4/5)
U.D.O. - I Give as Good as I Get (Score: +2.5/5)
Umphrie's McGee - In the Kitchen (Score: 4/5)
Voyager - White Shadow (Score: +3.5/5)
Regarding roulette bans:
- Every artist/band sent on the roulette whose song has received a 3.5 or more, is banned.
- If, and only if such song received a lower score, then the band/artist can be submitted again, but only once, indifferent of the score it receives the second time.
- Resubmissions can be from the same album or a different one, on the list or not.
- In case you resubmit an artist/band from the same album, and such record is on the list, that entry will not be counted as one of the obligatory songs sent from the list.
- Stating the obvious, but when a band/artist is banned, so are the albums by them on the list.
Bands/artists banned during roulette:
A Winged Victory for the Sullen
Afro Celt Sound System
Alt-J
Amadeus Awad
Anna Von Hausswolff
Arcade Fire
Arctic Monkeys
Arkasia
Bic Runga
Black Sabbath
Bob Dylan
Chroma Key
CHVRCHES
Coldplay
Damien Rice
Death Cab for cutie
Eisley
Enigma
Enya
Euzen
Fair to Midland
Foals
Frank Ocean
Glen Hansard
Gorillaz
Hiatus Kaiyote
Incubus
Kaki King
Kamasi Washington
Kishi Bashi
Koan Sound
Lechuga
Lorde
Ludovico Einaudi
Machine Head
Meat Loaf
Mew
Mree
múm
Nightwish
OutKast
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Rishloo
Rob Dougan
Roger Waters
Royal Blood
Rush
Ryan Adams
Saor
Shamrain
Slash
Snarky Puppy
Soundgarden
Steam Powered Giraffe
Streetlight Manifesto
Sylvan
Thank You Scientist
The Angelic Process
The Antlers
The Beatles
The Dear Hunter
The Gentle Storm
The Naked and Famous
The Stooges
The Tallest Man On Earth
Theodor Bastard
Thrice
Trioscapes
Vulfpeck
Yoko Kanno and the Seatbelts
Bands/artists available for re-entry:
Anthrax
Asia
Azedia
Blue Öyster Cult
Bon Iver
Caparezza
Cursive
Don Henley
East of the Wall
Emilie Autumn
Fletwood Mac
Foo Fighters
Frost*
God Is an Astronaut
Gojira
Horse the Band
Intronaut
Jeff Buckley
Karnivool
Kayo Dot
M83
Metallica
Native Construct
Nevermore
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
October Falls
Oranssi Pazuzu
Pearl Jam
Pendulum
Periphery
Primal Fear
R.E.M.
SikTh
Sleep Party People
System of a Down
The Beach Boys
The Cardigans
The Legendary Pink Dots
The National
The Plot in you
TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN
Twelve Foot Ninja
Voices from the Fuselage
Yellow Magic Orchestra
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I'll read through the rules and stuff in a bit but I am definitely in, got some cool shit for you yo.
Okay so I think I get most of it, just not the 5 songs from your list thingy, is your list complete? Because when I open it it stops at BusRatch - Memorium.
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The list only goes to "B." Is that a mistake?
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That's the first page, look at the bottom for more :P
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man i'm gonna die trying to send you songs from the list, i hope there are no themed rounds :lol
i'm in tho, gonna ruin you with metal you'll hate
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Can we send a song that is from a band on the list, but not the album stated, if we think a different album is better, or there is a song on a different album that is a better intro to the band?
Can we send a live version of a song from an album on the list?
If either if those is a no, it shouldn’t be a problem anyway, I think I saw enough stuff I know and like on the list that I could potentially try to stick to it for all ten rounds, just to help you hammer away at the list. :lol
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I'm probably doing just 5 of the list just because I have so much of my own stuff to send you, but there's some awesome albums on that list that I would send either way so we'll see.
man i'm gonna die trying to send you songs from the list, i hope there are no themed rounds :lol
There are not
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That's the first page, look at the bottom for more :P
oh haha
(https://i.imgur.com/HV93p5R.png)
^ me
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Can we send a song that is from a band on the list, but not the album stated, if we think a different album is better, or there is a song on a different album that is a better intro to the band?
As a rule of thumb, any artist with a rating of 3 or more in the list, is banned. If it has a rating of 2.5 or below, you can send it, but NOT from the album that has such rating in the list. For example, you can send me a Coheed and Cambria song that doesn’t belong to Afterman: Ascension, but not one from that album.
Can we send a live version of a song from an album on the list?
Nop :P
Before starting this, I checked top 50 lists from some of you and added a few of your all-times favorites ;)
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Can we go ahead and send?
edit: haha, Devil Doll on the list. You know I'm gonna send that at some point.
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thanks for convincing me i'm not crazy regarding this one
(https://s28.postimg.org/r9mmfa34d/awful.png)
there will prob be enough albums i know to pick 5 songs i'd be rather happy with but i'm going to fill the other 5 slots with bands nobody else will send
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I like Precambrian well enough, but Pelagial is miles better.
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Before starting this, I checked top 50 lists from some of you and added a few of your all-times favorites ;)
That explains it, what a shame, for a second I thought you had developed good taste :tdwn
Is it likely you don't know any of the songs on an album on the list if it has no rating yet? I mean, it would seem logical, but then you have these albums that I would not believe you don't know a single song from.
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Well, if it is a pretty well-known song, it's probable. In any case, send it and if I'm familiar with it, I'll ask to resend and give ya my thought on that tune :P
Can we go ahead and send?
I'd normally wait until I finish my top 50, but since you don't seem to have any strategy, yeah, go ahead.
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I like Precambrian well enough, but Pelagial is miles better.
Pelagial has missed the RNG bid thus far so I haven't gotten around to giving it a ton of listens yet (it's not in the set i just started today either) but i'll get around to it eventually
anyways there's only like 11 albums on the entire list i'd really want to send songs off of and i'm only gonna pick 5 (there was one artist i was surprised to see but you picked the wrong album so i'm sending them off the album i'm actually familiar with)
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By the way, as a fellow insane listmaker, I can take one look at that list and tell you why it's overwhelming you: it's just one massive fucking list. You need to break it up, categorise the artists according to genre or something like that, to make it more manageable. That way, when you say to yourself, "I wanna check out some hip-hop", you don't have to sift through 1800 albums.
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sent
Can we go ahead and send?
I'd normally wait until I finish my top 50, but since you don't seem to have any strategy, yeah, go ahead.
how dare you
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Screw it, sent in advance, I'm pretty confident about this song.
EDIT: and added you on last.fm
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I don't expect to do well at all, but I think I've got a couple of things that may appeal to you. Having to send five things from your giant list will probably screw me but I don't have a shot of winning anyway so it won't matter. Joining for the fun of it and to see if I am capable of sending even one song that you don't hate (fingers crossed). :lol
Count me in.
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Great! :metal
Btw, new rule added regarding songs sent, please read it :P
By the way, as a fellow insane listmaker, I can take one look at that list and tell you why it's overwhelming you: it's just one massive fucking list. You need to break it up, categorise the artists according to genre or something like that, to make it more manageable. That way, when you say to yourself, "I wanna check out some hip-hop", you don't have to sift through 1800 albums.
Well, I think at this point is not possible without ending up in the psychiatrist :lol
I don't really check music based on my mood, so I just organize what I'll listen to in a weekly basis, and check those albums. I may ask a few friends to recommend me stuff from the list from time to time, but that's about it. I may encounter lots of crap, yeah, but I've found this has opened my tastes a lot.
Btw folks, all songs from albums on the list will make me check those records even if I thought your tunes sucked. Just so you know :P
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I don't expect to do well at all, but I think I've got a couple of things that may appeal to you. Having to send five things from your giant list will probably screw me but I don't have a shot of winning anyway so it won't matter. Joining for the fun of it and to see if I am capable of sending even one song that you don't hate (fingers crossed). :lol
That's how I approached your roulette :rollin
There's a fair amount of hard rock and heavy metal on the list, it's just a matter of choosing wisely ;)
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my goal is to send you:
5 artists on the list nobody else is very likely to send (i feel like 4 of the 5 are very unlikely to be sent by anyone else, with the 5th not very likely either)
5 artists that i've discovered through my personal searching this last year and that i doubt anyone else has heard of through any source other than myself
basically i'm gonna find you the good stuff
i'm also going to be sending mostly really heavy stuff apparently :lol
is there any limit on track length btw? one of the albums i'm gonna send off of, the shortest song is almost 12 minutes and it's my least favorite anyways :lol
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There's a fair amount of hard rock and heavy metal on the list, it's just a matter of choosing wisely ;)
I'm already seeing some electronic stuff on this list that I know, and I'm only up to C. If this trend continues I might be able to avoid sending rock and metal genres - I'm not too sure I could pick out stuff from those that would appeal to you to be honest. I've got some electronica and some dj0nt, I'm going to lead with that.
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I'm In!!!!
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is there any limit on track length btw?
I'd say don't go for more than 10 mins unless it's really worth it. With 15 people participating, I want to finish this quick :lol
Added that rule to the OP.
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ok then i'm changing one of the albums i'm picking off of, oh well :lol
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Then how am I supposed to send Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was.. Death?
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Well I might do a round with no length limit, but we'll see about that ::)
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Yeah do that. I've got a 14-minute song here and chances are it might be the only thing I send that you like.
inb4 I send it and you hate it
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There's very, very little stuff I actually dislike and hate with passion (a bit of that explained in the My tastes link), so chances are you'd just get a 2.5/5 at worst, meaning I found it "meh" :P .
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There's very, very little stuff I actually dislike and hate with passion
Yeah we'll see about that.
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Sent. I'm gonna burn through all 5 list picks for my first 5 rounds to give me more time to figure out what to send for the other 5 where I have more freedom :lol
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I'd like to join :-*
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Sent. I'm gonna burn through all 5 list picks for my first 5 rounds to give me more time to figure out what to send for the other 5 where I have more freedom :lol
I recommend this approach - it will also avoid you from being cockblocked early :tup
I'd like to join :-*
You're in!
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Alright, I'll guess I'm prepared to give it a go to see if I can get you to like something!
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I'll read thru the rules v. soon but just rsvp'ing a resounding yes to your sexy request
EDIT: at first I was like '10 rounds, 5 of which have to be from your goddamned list?' but then I was overwhelmed by the sheer nerdy overkill of said list. Quite a few of the entries are favourites of mine, and some I know like the back of my hand... I think I'll have some fun with this.
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Crap, you invited seneca? For a second I thought I had a chance of winning.
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I'm just reading your "taste manifesto".
I'm 100% with you on '80s production, revolting, and a massive hindrance. It's like everyone forgot how to make music sound good for 10-12 years. Even without it though, the '80s are mostly a write-off of a decade - you can listen to albums from 1978 and 1979 and not only were only shite bands appearing, but you can hear the zeitgeist transforming all the good ones from the '70s into shit too. And that situation holds like a spell until about 1989.
BUT with all that said - if there's anything to take away from the decade, it's pop. Coming from someone who is really not fussed on the 80s, or pop very much, the '80s were basically the golden age of pop.
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80s pop does it for me in a big way.
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Can I have a go?
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80s pop does it for me in a big way.
Sneaky, as ever a venerable herb of some sort.
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Could I join? I listened to most of your top 50 albums list :azn:
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Erm... If I'm not too late I might join :facepalm:
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I would've never joined this roulette if not for an unfortunate fact I won the previous installment of this madness. Our tastes are so not a match these days it's ridiculous.
Anyway, I'm in, if only to try and defend my crown!
I have five songs I'll send, but they're pretty obscure and I doubt anyone will cockblock me on those, so I'm going to send five songs from your list first. I don't think it'll go well though - even though you have albums like Rainbow - Rising on your list, I can't imagine you'll like any of those six songs.
Also, if I'm dead last after those five rounds I'm going to send you loads of cheesy metal instead of the good songs I've prepared.
Mike, I think you were in invited persons list so I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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Crap, you invited seneca? For a second I thought I had a chance of winning.
:blush I've not won so many, recently.
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Mike, I think you were in invited persons list so I don't think you have anything to worry about.
Yup, rushed through the thread because I thought there wasn't more space.
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Can I have a go?
Only if you promise to send song in time :P
Could I join? I listened to most of your top 50 albums list :azn:
Sure!
BUT with all that said - if there's anything to take away from the decade, it's pop. Coming from someone who is really not fussed on the 80s, or pop very much, the '80s were basically the golden age of pop.
Well, I guess it depends on the artist, but I would be very careful when going with 80s pop - I once had an intership for two months at a lab, 3 daily hours, where they had this radio playing mostly 80s pop hits. Gosh, no. Those are among the very few things I actually hate with passion :lol
even though you have albums like Rainbow - Rising on your list, I can't imagine you'll like any of those six songs.
If anything, I think Stargazer is an excellent track, and would rate it like 4/5 or so. But of course it's banned :P
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What, you don't think the lyrics are cheesy?
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home should only be allowed to send songs named "home"
there's like hundreds of them so he should be good
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Erm, I'm uh, not on the participant list
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Should I play? :\ I have shit to study for college in weeks to come.
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Screw it, count me in :D
EDIT: Seneca ninja'd me for few minutes :'(
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btw since when have you been a greenie, sacul
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I'll take a shot in the dark and say since he donated some money in that recent donation contest.
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What, you don't think the lyrics are cheesy?
I don't care about lyrics in general, so unless you send me something completely awful lyric-wise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjwsPVfms4), it shouldn't affect the score. Plus, Stargazer rocks :metal
Erm, I'm uh, not on the participant list
SORRY MY LORD, I'VE ALREADY FIXED THAT.
btw since when have you been a greenie, sacul
a what
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I'll take a shot in the dark and say since he donated some money in that recent donation contest.
Yup, asked bosky if he could give me the status soon since I needed the inbox space with this roulette :lol
Should I play? :\ I have shit to study for college in weeks to come.
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Screw it, count me in :D
EDIT: Seneca ninja'd me for few minutes :'(
Sorry, my bad :'(
Well, we're already enough folks! Roulette doesn't officially start until I finish my top 50 (which should be in a few days), but you can start sending if you may :P
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I'll take a shot in the dark and say since he donated some money in that recent donation contest.
oh, that'd do it :lol
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I still haven't had time to read your list at all but I will within next 24-48 hrs
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Well, this hasn't even started and I've already got 5 entries! Loving how different they all are. No pressure by now, so take your time to get into my tastes and choose your tunes :P
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Ok I've at least skimmed the list a bit... This is going to be interesting. I'm going to send you some of my favorites and hope that you like. I'm going to try to stick with the list at least at first. Now, what to send first.... Idk what direction to go lol.
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What about some power metal :neverusethis:
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Can I have a go?
Only if you promise to send song in time :P
Done!
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Sorry for answering so late, I had guests over and no time to read through that list. I just skimmed the first half, and I'm pretty certain I'll find something to send.
Who knows, maybe I won't lose by not even half a point this time :P.
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Sent
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10 rounds and 15 participants, I shouldn't have sent such a short song, I have just the perfect 10:30 song for you in round 2 :neverusethis:
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Imma try to send later
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Sorry for answering so late, I had guests over and no time to read through that list. I just skimmed the first half, and I'm pretty certain I'll find something to send.
Who knows, maybe I won't lose by not even half a point this time :P.
Oh right, it was you who I competed against in the finals! I've sent Telegraph Road by Dire Straits and you sent something by dredg. I actually remember that now. You can have your revenge now... or not. :P
(don't let this discourage you from giving me a perfect score in the Championship roulette)
Anyway, I'll send something in a few days, probably Friday when I don't have to worry about work. Is that alright?
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i'm technically playing in like 5 roulettes right now though tom's is basically done and train's is close behind so :lol
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I actually have a shot of winning Tom's unless Seneca decides to submit better songs than me :P
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Anyway, I'll send something in a few days, probably Friday when I don't have to worry about work. Is that alright?
Yeah, no problem. The roulette will officially start around Thursday/Friday, or whenever I finish my top 50 list, so take your time :P
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Sent some crazy Tim Burton-ish death classical spasmic prog metal.
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you sent DSO? yes i know dso is banned
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you sent DSO? yes i know dso is banned
Think Between The Haken And Queen. That's all I'll say.
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If it's what I think it is, I literally wanted to send them next round, it fits pretty much both those descriptions, though I'm not too sure if it can be labeled 'death' metal
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If it's what I think it is, I literally wanted to send them next round.
You were the one to get me into them. Yes, they're in your top 50.
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Oh, that's pretty cool! I'm rooting for you to be a close second for this first round, behind me of course.
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looking over train's top 50 list i think i have a good idea of who you sent, except you sent a very standard song from them in my roulette as far as i can remember (i actually don't remember what the song sounds like at all... )
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Have your results
(mikmangioy) Adrenaline Mob - Bike-Metal
lol no.
Score: 0/5
:neverusethis:
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looking over train's top 50 list i think i have a good idea of who you sent, except you sent a very standard song from them in my roulette as far as i can remember (i actually don't remember what the song sounds like at all... )
But.. if it's the band I'm thinking about, I didn't even send it in your roulette :lol (now browsing through my own top 50 because I have no idea which band you're talking about)
Have your results
(mikmangioy) Adrenaline Mob - Bike-Metal
lol no.
Score: 0/5
:neverusethis:
:rollin :rollin
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looking over train's top 50 list i think i have a good idea of who you sent, except you sent a very standard song from them in my roulette as far as i can remember (i actually don't remember what the song sounds like at all... )
Nope, it's my first time sending a song of theirs.
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i was talking to train but ok
i guess it wasn't what i thought it was
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Yeah, I wouldn't classify Slash as Tim Burton-ish death classical spasmic prog metal but nice guess
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i wasn't talking about slash :lol
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Sent some kind of Power Metal. Hoping for better results than the last time I sent you a Power Metal song :angel:.
Also, I promise you won't always get an essay along with the song :lol
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I was just wondering… Is the kiss on your list?
:neverusethis:
:obscure80sreference:
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Also, I promise you won't always get an essay along with the song :lol
How about a book next time? :P
EDIT: 11 songs so far, wow! I've gotta say, I'm enjoying the variety of these tunes :P
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Bumping to officially start the roulette since 14 of you have already sent and there's only one album left to be revealed on my top 50. So those who haven't sent (aka Evermind :P) have 48 hours to do so. If everything goes fine, expect results this Monday evening (GMT -3).
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Yeah, I'll send today after work.
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Expecting some tasty power metal :tup
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kamelot isn't banned so you'll probably get that at some point
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Well, I got Memento Mori my last round and it was quite meh, so they ain't banned, but who knows :P
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Sent Mehmento Mori
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Well if you have Kamelot on your list...
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Oh, do I? Didn't notice, honestly :lol
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He added random albums that we like to boost our confidence in our own music tastes. For a second I thought I wasn't the only person on earth who digs Noisia, then again, Sacul how the fuck do you even know Noisia?
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Oh, do I? Didn't notice, honestly :lol
I don't know, I was writing that what work and I implied that if you have it, you'll probably get it.
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He added random albums that we like to boost our confidence in our own music tastes. For a second I thought I wasn't the only person on earth who digs Noisia, then again, Sacul how the fuck do you even know Noisia?
I have no clue :lol - I've added records from many, MANY different sources, like:
- RYM lists
- DTF Top 50 lists
- SputnikMusic's top albums of each genre
- RYM's top albums of each genre
- Best of The Year lists
- Lots of /mu/'s essentials flowcharts (for instance, all of this (https://i.imgur.com/p6Ivf3i.jpg) is included on the list)
- Some friends recommendations
- DTF favs
- Albums/Bands found through plug.dj sessions (gosh, how I miss that site :'( )
- Some records with nice covers found on What Album Are You Listening To?
- Essential trip-hop, essential electronic music, and essential Japanese music lists
Lots were added knowing I wouldn't really like them, but who knows - never expected to like Welcome to Sky Valley, for instance, yet I'm digging it a lot.
Oh, do I? Didn't notice, honestly :lol
I don't know, I was writing that what work and I implied that if you have it, you'll probably get it.
Just checked, and looks like they aren't on the list. Wouldn't have surprised me if they were on it tho :P
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Sent. Wonder if Elite cockblocked me on that one... we shall see in a few minutes, I guess.
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I guess Elite went with another of his favorite albums, so you're in :P
Now:
[...] expect results this Monday evening (GMT -3).
I was tempted to post a little part of the writeups later today, but dunno if I'll end up doing so. We shall see.
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I was tempted to post a little part of the writeups later today, but dunno if I'll end up doing so. We shall see.
Doooooooo eeeeeeeet.........
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I guess Elite went with another of his favorite albums, so you're in :P
Alright then! I sent the same band I opened with in the first Sacul roulette.
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Doooooooo eeeeeeeet.........
I was about to discard that idea, but then this inspired me:
(https://i67.tinypic.com/30ksoqx.png)
A bit of a pity nobody sent me black metal tho. Anyways, already listened to Ev's song, so here they are all, in random order:
Well this is pretty nice. I dig the combination of robotic vocals with the real ones...
This has some nice acoustic layering, and I like his voice, how intimate it all feels.
So after checking like half of these guys' discography, and not really digging it, I kinda liked this album so added it to the list to check it later. But forgot to do so lol. This is definitely the best [band] song I've heard so far...
The fuck is this :lol
Nice electronics? The melodies aren't that good tbh.
I guess this one is a grower. Goes places, yes, but seems a bit unfocused.
Better than most power metal I've heard at least.
Well this is not what I expected. This song is a bit weird, atonal at times, and pretty dark. Yet it doesn't appeal me that much...
Tbh, although I have listened to little [band], I definitely prefer their instrumental pieces...
Well, I really dig those vocal harmonies throughout the song. It has some epic moments too. Yup, I'm quite digging this piece.
But man, this is just pure fun, and some excellent joyful stuff.
It has an interesting dark circus vibe I quite dig tho.
I dig this one quite a lot, yet my complaint is that on the second half he does some weird noises/screams that turn me off a bit.
I actually expected a heavier song, but instead this is a... ballad? I really dig the atmosphere and the electronic sounds...
Nothing wrong with the song, is short and catchy, and does its job well. I feel it's a tad bit too short tho.
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But man, this is just pure fun, and some excellent joyful stuff.
I read this and thought to myself this must be mine, then I read this:
Nothing wrong with the song, is short and catchy, and does its job well. I feel it's a tad bit too short tho.
Most likely the last one.
Reading a lot of negative/meh stuff tho so I think I did alright on this one
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Tbh, although I have listened to little [band], I definitely prefer their instrumental pieces...
I'm like 99% sure this is mine :lol
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I know which is mine, but I ain't spoiling it for everyone.
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I see mine!
If you want intimate, hmu.
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So after checking like half of these guys' discography, and not really digging it, I kinda liked this album so added it to the list to check it later. But forgot to do so lol. This is definitely the best [band] song I've heard so far...
This has some nice acoustic layering, and I like his voice, how intimate it all feels.
Better than most power metal I've heard at least.
These could be mine, though I didn't send power metal.
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A bit of a pity nobody sent me black metal tho.
yet. don't worry, i have at least two artists planned.
Well this is not what I expected. This song is a bit weird, atonal at times, and pretty dark. Yet it doesn't appeal me that much...
I dig this one quite a lot, yet my complaint is that on the second half he does some weird noises/screams that turn me off a bit.
one of these is me tho
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The fuck is this :lol
Thought for sure this would be yours
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So after checking like half of these guys' discography, and not really digging it, I kinda liked this album so added it to the list to check it later. But forgot to do so lol. This is definitely the best [band] song I've heard so far...
Better than most power metal I've heard at least.
Well, I really dig those vocal harmonies throughout the song. It has some epic moments too. Yup, I'm quite digging this piece.
Either of those could be mine, can't really see how the others could fit up with my song. Hope it's the last one
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The fuck is this :lol
Thought for sure this would be yours
i definitely have an song along these lines planned, but not in the first half of my entries
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This has some nice acoustic layering, and I like his voice, how intimate it all feels.
That's mine probably.
The fuck is this :lol
And this is awesome :lol
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Funny how some of you found your writeups, while others aren't even close :lol
EDIT: Did preliminary scores to have a reference when I deliver the final results, and scores range from 3 to +4, all out of five.
EDIT 2: Added my top 100 to the OP now that my list is finished. Of course, all albums and bands on it are banned.
EDIT 3: Deleted a few albums on the list that shouldn't have been there since the bands/artists were banned, and added these:
- The Angels of Light - How I Loved You
- Richard Buckner - Devotion + Doubt
- Austin Lucas - Putting The Hammer Down
- Austin Lucas - Somebody Loves You
- Bat for Lashes - Two Suns
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No idea which of those tidbits is mine.
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EDIT 3: Deleted a few albums tot he list that shouldn't have been there since the bands/artists were banned
can you tell us which albums you deleted then :lol
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IIRC, I think these:
- Sufjan Stevens - The Age of ADZ
- Elend - A World At Their Screams
- James Blake - Overgrown
- Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
- Gazpacho - Night
- Archive - Londinium
It's not that I expect you to know any of these anyways :P
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¿Gazpacho? ¿Pero porque, señor Sacul?
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I'll send you some black metal between submissions from your list. I have a few that I've been wanting to try out
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I guess this one is a grower. Goes places, yes, but seems a bit unfocused.
Well, I really dig those vocal harmonies throughout the song. It has some epic moments too. Yup, I'm quite digging this piece.
I think it is one of those two, I would describe it as unfocused with epic moments :azn:
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I'll send you some black metal between submissions from your list. I have a few that I've been wanting to try out
Nice, although I wouldn't recommend it - I've sampled some classic albums by Emperor, Mayhem, Burzum, and the like, and they have left me quite underwhelmed. Well, except Ulver's Bergtatt, which is nice, and Mantiis, but that album mixes lots of genres so it never gets boring. Added this opinion on black metal to the "My Tastes" doc, on the Metal section, by the way.
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There's a black metal album I could recommend, but I'll hold off in case seneca wants to send it.
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I'm going to send a song from a band that plays black metal at one point. However, the song will be from a period they made ambient acoustic music. :lol
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Since you're the first host of a roulette I'm participating that doesn't only 'tolerate' electronic music but actually listens to it a fair amount, I'm probably going bat-shit crazy in this one with some electronic shit, I still want to take the strategic route though so if it's not working I will wuss out and go back to sending prog again or something.
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well that's just a challenge for me to get you to like black metal more, then
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I'll send you some black metal between submissions from your list. I have a few that I've been wanting to try out
Nice, although I wouldn't recommend it - I've sampled some classic albums by Emperor, Mayhem, Burzum, and the like, and they have left me quite underwhelmed. Well, except Ulver's Bergtatt, which is nice, and Mantiis, but that album mixes lots of genres so it never gets boring. Added this opinion on black metal to the "My Tastes" doc, on the Metal section, by the way.
I feel ya- those classic black metal albums are generally underwhelming for me as well. The ones I'm thinking about are a bit more modern and draw a bit more from other genres. Also, less intentionally-bad production than those you listed.
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also yeah i tend to prefer the more modern black metal albums a lot more than the "classics"
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I'm going to send a song from a band that plays black metal at one point. However, the song will be from a period they made ambient acoustic music. :lol
Ulver are banned :neverusethis:
Since you're the first host of a roulette I'm participating that doesn't only 'tolerate' electronic music but actually listens to it a fair amount, I'm probably going bat-shit crazy in this one with some electronic shit, I still want to take the strategic route though so if it's not working I will wuss out and go back to sending prog again or something.
Nice.
I'll send you some black metal between submissions from your list. I have a few that I've been wanting to try out
Nice, although I wouldn't recommend it - I've sampled some classic albums by Emperor, Mayhem, Burzum, and the like, and they have left me quite underwhelmed. Well, except Ulver's Bergtatt, which is nice, and Mantiis, but that album mixes lots of genres so it never gets boring. Added this opinion on black metal to the "My Tastes" doc, on the Metal section, by the way.
I feel ya- those classic black metal albums are generally underwhelming for me as well. The ones I'm thinking about are a bit more modern and draw a bit more from other genres. Also, less intentionally-bad production than those you listed.
If you feel confident about it, sure, go ahead :tup
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Since you're the first host of a roulette I'm participating that doesn't only 'tolerate' electronic music but actually listens to it a fair amount, I'm probably going bat-shit crazy in this one with some electronic shit, I still want to take the strategic route though so if it's not working I will wuss out and go back to sending prog again or something.
If you send who I was going to send I call automatic entry into your finals
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I really doubt it honestly :lol it'd be pretty awesome if you were going to send this though.
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:soon:
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hyped for that 2.5
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:soon:
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soon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBJpsC52Bo&t=0m51s)
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Finally, the so-awaited round 1 entries! Songs are ordered from worst to best :P
(sneakyblueberry) Horse the Band - Cloudwalker
The fuck is this :lol
I'll give you credit for sending me something quite creative. But good ideas alone don't make a song good. See, while this song is enjoyable, I didn't find anything remarkable except the great synth/chiptune work. None of the other instruments really made something that stood out. Not even the use of samples saved this song. It's nice, but nothing special to me. 3/5
(Parama) Cursive - Butcher the Song
I prefer the song you sent biskit by a nice margin :lol
It has an interesting dark circus vibe I quite dig tho. The dissonant guitars don't turn me off actually. But the vocal melodies are pretty lame imo. They fit the style, but I don't really dig them anyways. That's something I've found common in post-hardcore and in a lot of post-punk/punk related music, that their vocal melodies are fairly unmemorable. While this one is enjoyable, I didn't find it special, really. 3/5
(Elite) Jeff Buckley - So Real
Well this is not what I expected. For some reason I thought this guy made more straightforward folk music or something lol. This song is a bit weird, atonal at times, and pretty dark imo. Yet it doesn't appeal me that much. The guitar work and the drumming reminds me a bit of Slint and the vocal melodies to Mr Bungle, for some reason. In general these are some strange melodies. So none of the quotes you chose were yours, sorry - maybe we have different definitions of intimate music? This felt a bit creepy lol. But anyways, I'll end up checking this album. +3/5
(Mikemangioy) Native Construct - Come Hell or High Water
After all the hype this album generated last year I added it to the list, and I guess I can see why. While not reinventing the wheel, these guys combine several styles in a unique way, crafting a sound of their own, something I appreciate a lot. Yet uniqueness doesn't make for a good score alone. This tune definitely goes places, yes, but seems a bit unfocused. Like, for a moment it's pretty heavy and serious, and the other more playful, almost Disney-esque. Nothing bad with that, it's just that I don't feel it works on this particular song. +3/5
(FlyingBISKIT) Chroma Key - America The Video
Ah, Kevin. Dunno up to which point this is cheating, considering my love for Blood and Kevin's work in general, but whatever. The song has some nice electronics, and great guitar work and production. The melodies in general aren't that good to be honest, they feel a bit chessy. Reminds me a bit of Surrounded in that sense, but not as good. Pretty enjoyable, yet not really memorable. 3.5/5
(senecadawg2) Damien Rice - Cannonball
Oh, folk. For some reason I should be really more into this kind of music. I used to think that it was too simple to me - just a person with a guitar, singing and playing. But I guess my issue is that the songwriting isn't really strong, at least not here. Well, maybe its strength relies on the lyrics? As you said, they're poignant ("Life taught me to die" lol), and it's not that I don't care about lyrics in purpose, but they don't really affect my enjoying of a song unless they're awful. I can listen so them, sing along them, understand them, but... for some reason, they don't leave much of an impact on me most of the time, unlike music. Weird thing.
So back to the song, this has some nice acoustic layering, and I like his voice how intimate it all feels. Yet it's nothing too special. I guess I just prefer more ambitious stuff (like Sufjan's Illinoise), or music with clearly different parts, for this felt a bit one-dimensional. Nothing bad, but nothing too remarkable. 3.5/5
(Tyrias) Nightwish - Higher than Hope
I was wondering how long would it take before someone sent me power metal :lol
This is a nice piece, pretty epic at times but also dark, for the lyrics you described to me. Better than most power metal I've heard at least. Reminds me a bit of The Human Equation in the sense that it has nice songwriting and tight insturmentation, and very little cheese, enough for me to bear with it. It doesn't blow me away or anything, but it's more enjoyable than I thought it would be. Don't have much to add, other than I'm curious about this album and band. 3.5/5
(Train of Naught) Royal Blood - Loose Change
Well this is definitely something different - a bass so distorted it sounds like a guitar is a very intriguing idea, indeed, and it has a nice distorted sound. The riffs are pretty good, and this song has a great groove. But... nothing wrong with the tune, is short and catchy, and does its job well. I feel it's a tad bit too short tho, with that abrupt ending. And it sounds a bit too much like The White Stripes at times lol. Will check this album anyways. +3.5/5
(425) Coldplay - Midnight
Well this is pretty nice. I dig the combination of robotic vocals with the real ones. It's both beautiful and relaxing, and pretty minimalistic too. Nice synths section at the middle. I can see why you love this song. Honestly, it took quite some time to grow on me - I think if it wasn't for the 5-6 listens I have given it, it wouldn't have clicked. I may not be 100% sold on Coldplay, but I really like this one, and will check this album. 4/5
(Evermind) Pain of Salvation - Iter Impius
So after checking like half of these guys' discography, and not really digging it, I kinda liked this album so added it to the list to check it later. But forgot to do so lol. This is definitely the best PoS song I've heard so far, without annoying vocal noises. Great vocal performance, and nice solo. The instrumentation wasn't that good overall, with some great moments and a few meh ones. The ending is quite epic tho, and this would definitely be a great closer. Might finally get into these guys' music, or at least on this album. 4/5
(Fluffy Lothario) The Stooges - Fun House
What the hell :lol
Dunno what's going on here, but this is a hella lot of fun - dat sax is awesome. And the singer, the mighty punk godfather Iggy Pop, bro, he's insane. I dig this one quite a lot, yet my complaint is that on the second half he does some weird noises/screams that turn me off a bit. But otherwise, this is excellent. Don't have much to say really, just that I quite enjoyed it. 4/5
(splent) Rush - La Villa Strangiato
Well of course I've listened to La Villa Strangiato, but maybe just one or two times long time ago, so I let this pass. To be honest, although I have listened to little Rush, I definitely prefer their instrumental pieces - YYZ is excellent. And so is this, for it goes many places in almost 10 mins, both serious and fun, yet remains cohesive and interesting enough. Excellent production, too. +4/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Celldweller - Gift For You
So, you did it again :lol
On my previous roulette you sent me a song by Assemblage 23, from the album Compass, despite having another of their albums on my list at the moment. Now, I have The End of An Empire on the list, yet you sent me something from another record :P
About the song - I do love me some industrial. I actually expected a heavier song, but instead this is a... ballad? Anyways, I really dig the atmosphere and the electronic sounds - reminds me a bit of OSI's Blood. This is a pretty interesting piece, with a fantastic production! I would have liked a more energic song in this style, but this tune has grown on me quite a bit, specially the vocal lines. This shouldn't happen, but you got a nice score! +4/5
(home) Rishloo - Just a Ride
So, prog metal? I've gotta admit it's a genre in which I have tough time finding good bands that don't sound generic as fuck - totally the oposite of a progressive genre. This song is a more than welcomed breath of fresh air. The vocal harmonies at the beginning (and througout the song), and most of the vocal melodies remind me a bit of Gazpacho - not complaining though, I really dig them. Excellent how everything feels quite atmospheric. Yup, I dig this. +4/5
(Bolsters) Kishi Bashi - Philosophize in it! Chemicalize with it!
>kishi bashi
>that cover
>song starts
>panic
>song ends
>hey that wasn't too bad!
So after like 6 or so spins, this one has grown quite a lot on me. At times, a bit too sugar-ish for my taste, yes. But man, this is just pure fun, and some excellent joyful stuff. Quite beautiful even. I'm definitely intrigued about this album, yup. My only complaint is that it felt a bit too short. Nothing more to be added, excellent track that didn't expec to like this much. 4.5/5
Standings:
4.5 - Bolsters x
+4 - home x
+4 - Shadow Ninja 2.0
+4 - splent x
4 - Fluffy Lothario x
4 - Evermind x
4 - 425 x
+3.5 - Train of Naught x
3.5 - senecadawg2 x
3.5 - Biskit x
3.5 - Tyrias x
+3 - mikemangioy x
+3 - Elite x
3 - Parama x
3 - Sneakyblueberry x
(x= one song sent from the list)
I'll later update the Banned During Roulette list on the OP, but now you have 48 hs to send for the next round.
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Once is an album by Nightwish. There's no title track on it.
Also, Iter Impius isn't a closer.
What does "+4" mean? Not quite 4,5 but not 4 either? If I get, say, +4 three times, will my score be +++12? :lol
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lol will fix that later.
Oh thought it was the last song for some reason.
Read the OP :P
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oh so you want remarkable silly me
fuk u
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Nothing more to be added, excellent track that didn't expect to like this much.
That's okay, I understand. :lol
And Shadow Ninja just wasted Celldweller, because one of his other albums was on your list. :loser:
Round 2 sent.
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sent my round two, but I think [mindgames] its probably too obscure for you cos you're not quite obscure as me tbh [/mindgames]
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off to an early reverse-lead, heck yeah
and by the way my first five songs are all going to be off your list but i keep forgetting to mention that in pm's so yeah
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Dang, the newcomer knows his shit. When LordCost sent me Rishloo I was sure you'd like it too, though I heard that song and I think you'll like Landmines even more.
I'm fine with a +3.5, the ending always leaves me wanting more as well.
Also yea I knew mike sent Native Construct, eexpected the song 'Mute' though :lol
I'll send R2 today.
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Once is an album by Nightwish. There's no title track on it.
Also, Iter Impius isn't a closer.
What does "+4" mean? Not quite 4,5 but not 4 either? If I get, say, +4 three times, will my score be +++12? :lol
Yeah, the song I sent was Higher Than Hope. I'm reasonably happy with that result.
Also, i remember the last final against Evermind, where I literally decided between The Canyon Behind Her and Iter Impius, then went with the former. I also remember you saying you didn't like Iter Impius that much. Anyway, it's quite curious that Evermind nows sends that song in the first round of your next roulette :lol
Also, I'm trying to decide if i should send that Orchestral Dubstep song i've been itching to send in a roulette or if it's too cheesy for you.
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Ugh, I expected just a little more.
I'll send soon!
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what if the new guys were really just Lucas, and that was his vendetta against us all along.
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So, Sacul, I've read the OP and honestly I still kinda don't get it. :lol
You wrote:
Scoring out of 5, and in case I need half a point, a plus (+) will be added.
But seeing how both +4 and 4.5 scores exist and they're clearly different scores, what you wrote in the OP is confusing - because, well, if you add half a point to 4 you'll get 4.5, not some kind of plus.
I can only assume +4 equals 4.25. Therefore, if I get +4 two times, my score will add up to 8.5?
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Yea I think the + is a .25 point as well.
Sent some Glitch-Hop :metal :metal
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There were certain artists that I had noted to myself specifically because I was almost certain they'd be gone in the first few rounds. I was right on Jeff Buckley and Damien Rice.
(Elite) Jeff Buckley - So Real
Well this is not what I expected. For some reason I thought this guy made more straightforward folk music or something lol. This song is a bit weird, atonal at times, and pretty dark imo. Yet it doesn't appeal me that much. The guitar work and the drumming reminds me a bit of Slint and the vocal melodies to Mr Bungle, for some reason. In general these are some strange melodies. So none of the quotes you chose were yours, sorry - maybe we have different definitions of intimate music? This felt a bit creepy lol. But anyways, I'll end up checking this album. +3/5
Some of his tracks are basically just unaccompanied folk, only on an electric guitar. Otherwise, his guitar playing feels folk-informed a lot of the time, to put it vaguely. So Real is IMO the worst song on the album. He wrote it at the last minute because he decided one song he had intended to put on the album was too personal and painful, and pulled it, and he felt he needed something else to complete the album. It's stil great, but almost every other track looms over it.
On Damien Rice: when you said we can't send live material, I wrote off sending him there and then. I've listened to his music semi-constantly since he first appeared, and almost never touched his studio albums. His live performances tear strips off of them, and there's plenty of good ones out there.
(Fluffy Lothario) The Stooges - Fun House
What the hell :lol
Dunno what's going on here, but this is a hella lot of fun - dat sax is awesome. And the singer, the mighty punk godfather Iggy Pop, bro, he's insane. I dig this one quite a lot, yet my complaint is that on the second half he does some weird noises/screams that turn me off a bit. But otherwise, this is excellent. Don't have much to say really, just that I quite enjoyed it. 4/5
His vocals in the second half of the track are definitely the most extreme on the album, but it's still the best song on there, so I went with that.
The entire album is awesome though, and doubly mindblowing when you consider it came out in 1970. Punk didn't even exist for another six years. I've actually had trouble getting into the classic punk albums since I started looking into the albums that get dubbed proto-punk, as proto-punk is infinitely more interesting, and often rocks harder anyway.
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So, Sacul, I've read the OP and honestly I still kinda don't get it. :lol
You wrote:
Scoring out of 5, and in case I need half a point, a plus (+) will be added.
But seeing how both +4 and 4.5 scores exist and they're clearly different scores, what you wrote in the OP is confusing - because, well, if you add half a point to 4 you'll get 4.5, not some kind of plus.
I can only assume +4 equals 4.25. Therefore, if I get +4 two times, my score will add up to 8.5?
Well it wouldn't be controversial if he explained everything.
Also, I forgot to mention when sending my song - if you have a sound system with a subwoofer, I recommend listening to my song on that at least once so you know what's going on in the low end. Or some speakers that can pump out a decent amount of bass, at least. I think the bass enhances my song a great deal and headphones won't do it justice.
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I am glad you liked the song I sent! The next one is a bit more a gamble (it's not from your list btw). Sacul, have you ever listened to other Albums from Rishloo? You only have their newest album on your list but I would say both Feathergun and Eidolon are better albums.
When LordCost sent me Rishloo I was sure you'd like it too, though I heard that song and I think you'll like Landmines even more.
Landmines is a great song too :azn: I was actually hesitating between sending that one and Just A Ride.
what if the new guys were really just Lucas, and that was his vendetta against us all along.
:justjen
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So Real is IMO the worst song on the album.
:lol that's hilarious.
He wrote it at the last minute because he decided one song he had intended to put on the album was too personal and painful, and pulled it, and he felt he needed something else to complete the album.
I did not know that though.
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Off to a good start… :-).
I'll send round two later today. I'm trying to decide between two songs on the same album.
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Wish Upon A Blackstar is better than End of an Empire, same as with Compass and whatever other albums Assemblage 23 has.
Will send soon.
sent
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He wrote it at the last minute because he decided one song he had intended to put on the album was too personal and painful, and pulled it, and he felt he needed something else to complete the album.
He wrote it to replace Forget Her, which is now included as Track 11 / a bonus track of sorts in modern pressings of the album anyway.
I did not know that though.
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I can only assume +4 equals 4.25. Therefore, if I get +4 two times, my score will add up to 8.5?
Yes, and yes. I realise it wasn't too clear on the OP, so I've fixed it :tup .
On Damien Rice: when you said we can't send live material, I wrote off sending him there and then. I've listened to his music semi-constantly since he first appeared, and almost never touched his studio albums. His live performances tear strips off of them, and there's plenty of good ones out there.
Oh, I'm aware some artists are way better live than in studio, so let me reconsider the rule about sending live material for a few days :smiley:
The entire album is awesome though, and doubly mindblowing when you consider it came out in 1970. Punk didn't even exist for another six years. I've actually had trouble getting into the classic punk albums since I started looking into the albums that get dubbed proto-punk, as proto-punk is infinitely more interesting, and often rocks harder anyway.
Sounds excellent! Will explore a bit of this proto-punk thing after the roulette is over, seems up my alley :P
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So, another question: is Nightwish now banned or I can send something from Imaginaerum, as this album is on your list too?
Oh, and also, sending shortly. You have that album on the list I know of, but the thing is, it has seven tracks, two of them are intros under 2 minutes long, three of them are 5 minutes long and the best two tracks are 11:48 and 10:32. :lol Just need to decide if I should pick another album or send a 5 minutes long song.
I can only assume +4 equals 4.25. Therefore, if I get +4 two times, my score will add up to 8.5?
Yes, and yes. I realise it wasn't too clear on the OP, so I've fixed it :tup .
Cool, thank you for clearing that up. Not that I've got a + myself anyway.
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So, another question: is Nightwish now banned or I can send something from Imaginaerum, as this album is on your list too?
Oh, and also, sending shortly. You have that album on the list I know of, but the thing is, it has seven tracks, two of them are intros under 2 minutes long, three of them are 5 minutes long and the best two tracks are 11:48 and 10:32. :lol Just need to decide if I should pick another album or send a 5 minutes long song.
I knew I forgot a rule about that :lol Updated the second post with that info.
Well, if the 10:32 song has like 2 seconds of silence or the like, then you can send it. But make sure it's worth it :P
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So, another question: is Nightwish now banned or I can send something from Imaginaerum, as this album is on your list too?
Oh, and also, sending shortly. You have that album on the list I know of, but the thing is, it has seven tracks, two of them are intros under 2 minutes long, three of them are 5 minutes long and the best two tracks are 11:48 and 10:32. :lol Just need to decide if I should pick another album or send a 5 minutes long song.
I knew I forgot a rule about that :lol Updated the second post with that info.
Well, if the 10:32 song has like 2 seconds of silence or the like, then you can send it. But make sure it's worth it :P
Got it.
Settled on the 4:30 one. Ten minutes of samples might be too much. Sent!
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Regarding roulette bans:
Every artist/band sent on the roulette whose song has received a 3.5 or more, is banned.
Is this for both your first and current Roulette? Just noticed that I should send a new song if it's also for your first roulette :p
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Regarding roulette bans:
Every artist/band sent on the roulette whose song has received a 3.5 or more, is banned.
Is this for both your first and current Roulette? Just noticed that I should send a new song if it's also for your first roulette :p
I don't think it applies for his first. I was able to send Pain of Salvation again, and they got 3.5 last time.
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What Ev said. Most of the bands that scored quite well on my past roulette are on the banned list, and you're fine home, I haven't explored much by them so don't worry :P
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Tyrias, I actually very seriously considered sending Higher Than Hope! :lol I figured if there was a chance of getting Sacul to like a Nightwish song, that would probably be the best one to go with.
Always happy to get a good score for Midnight, and it makes me very happy when people like it. :tup Still on the quest to find that one person who will give it that perfect score, though...
Will send :soon:
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Tyrias, I actually very seriously considered sending Higher Than Hope! :lol I figured if there was a chance of getting Sacul to like a Nightwish song, that would probably be the best one to go with.
Always happy to get a good score for Midnight, and it makes me very happy when people like it. :tup Still on the quest to find that one person who will give it that perfect score, though...
Will send :soon:
Yeah, I would have considered meadows of heaven as well, but DPP wasn’t on his list. Anyway, sent for the next round. Some folk this time, not Power Metal.
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Almost 24 hours after results and I already have 13 submissions :o
I've listened to everything at least twice now, and I've gotta say, I'm loving the variety of these tracks :metal
Will post sneak-peek when I get them all.
EDIT: Added a Spotify playlist with round 1 entries. If anyone wants to make a YT one, just do it and PM me the link :P
Also, added bands/artists that are available for re-entry on the second post.
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Oh cool, so I still could've sent Native Construct this round if I wanted to :laugh: I'm still pretty confident that Come Hell or High Water will be your least favorite song from that album but it's still risky.
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Sent some funky latin djent
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Everybody's in! I'll post some sneak-peeks later, but in the meantime, this is a list of albums I have added to the list:
- Asobi Seksu - Citrus
- Death in vegas - Contino Sessions
- Death in vegas - Dead Elvis
- Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...
- Julia holter - have you in my wilderness
- múm - finally we are no one
- Sharon Van Etten - are we there
- Sharon Van Etten - Tramp
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Oh cool, so I still could've sent Native Construct this round if I wanted to :laugh:
Yeah, but wouldn't have counted as a "sent from list" entry :P
Added this info to the second post, btw.
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Hey I can send múm yay
unless somebody else does
does anybody else listen to múm
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i have that specific album because you sent me a song off it
and it's great
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I've never heard of any of those artists.
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Hey I can send múm yay
They were already on the list, but with a different album. Now they both are.
I've never heard of any of those artists.
Well Julia Holter makes Art/Chamber Pop, so it seems up my alley, and maybe yours :P
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that julia hotler album was pretty highly regarded from what i've seen but i haven't checked it out. too busy listening to garbage :neverusethis:
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Interesting, two people sent the same band, and album but different tunes. I'll just leave these here, by the way:
...added their [album] to the list because one of its songs was pretty good, and creative. This, on the other hand... sounds a bit generic.
Oh, the [decade]. Strange and fascinating times.
Mmnn this is pretty nice I guess.
Now I regret not exploring more of these guys' music - this one is pretty good, specially the piano work.
Those distant vocals with reverb, man... I fucking love those. It's a bit of a fetish.
I like this, is pretty chill. Dunno what genre this is, but I like what I hear.
Well this is pretty good actually, but I feel I've listened to better songs on this style, like most of what [artist] does is better than this.
More Power Metal?
Well this is nice and catchy. I prefer the other song by them lol
I don't know what's going on here, but damn, the feels are strong.
...but the instrumentation is wonderful, so beautiful, vivid and innocent - yes.
This has some great [instrument] work, but man... his voice. Just... no.
Nigga pls.
Well this one definitely goes many places, and has some excellent parts, but a few meh ones.
No problem with this one, I like these sounds and rhythms, but... it just goes nowhere.
Well, definitely the best out of the two I received. Really like the atmosphere of this track, even though it's a bit of an unusual one for this kind of music, I dig it.
I may actually get into there guy's music, for it seems their last album is up my alley.
Oh, and there are two fake tidbits here. Good luck!
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Those distant vocals with reverb, man... I fucking love those. It's a bit of a fetish.
nailed it
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I suck at picking out my song's tidbits.
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i usually suck too but that's like, the very specific sound of the vocals in the song i sent so i'll be shocked if someone else sent a song with the exact same style of vocals :lol
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You'd be surprised ::)
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Dammit, mine is a meh one, I'm positive. I KNEW I should have sent the other song from that album I was going to...
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sacul just let me have this little slice of confidence
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:vomitard:
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I could see the song I sent going either way, so I dunno which mine is, and I'm not gonna try and guess how it went down.
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I fear the one about the great instrument work but awful voice is mine. I hope the voice will still grow on you, it did for me.
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You know, with 15 participants I don't even care to try and guess which of these tidbits is mine anymore.
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Now I regret not exploring more of these guys' music - this one is pretty good, specially the piano work.
Quite sure this is about the song I sent :azn:
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Well, there's a lot of comments I can confirm are not mine, but also a lot of very generic one's.
I'm thinking one of these is mine:
Now I regret not exploring more of these guys' music - this one is pretty good, specially the piano work.
I like this, is pretty chill. Dunno what genre this is, but I like what I hear.
Leaning most towards the bolded one
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I guess another bad one for me :lol
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Expect results this Saturday evening! Preliminar scores range from 3 to 4, heh. Not a very strong round, but I'm sure some of these tunes will grow on me.
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Mine is probably 3.
Thinking about my song, I have no idea why I've sent it because I don't even like it that much. :facepalm: However, I've got a perfect retort for your write-up if you'll write what I think you'll write.
And if it will seem I've got no chance to win, I'll stop sending songs from the list and send all my prepared songs, and if I'm still isn't in position to win, I'll go with Winger - Seventeen and tunes like that for the last three picks.
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Hoping for a 3.5, but I'm getting less confident in my song because it;s kinda repetitive and I fear Lucas will find it grating
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And if it will seem I've got no chance to win, I'll stop sending songs from the list and send all my prepared songs, and if I'm still isn't in position to win, I'll go with Winger - Seventeen and tunes like that for the last three picks.
Well, while you complete the 5 mandatory list entries, do as you please :lol
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ahh, okay, 3 is good enough i guess
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Hoping for a 3.5, but I'm getting less confident in my song because it;s kinda repetitive and I fear Lucas will find it grating
Yeah mines pretty repetitive too. I don't think it's grating, but I'm thinking my comment is the it doesn't really go anywhere (it's just not that kind of song)
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My problem with repetitive music is more about basic predictable structures - hell, Swans repeat their music over and over, evolving their ideas with slow pace yet I quite like their stuff, so repetitive in that sense doesn't apply to me :P
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RESULTS... in a few hours from now. :P
In the meantime, the list has been updated:
Deleted:
Melt-Banana - Cell-Scape (I finished listening their other album, Fetch, which I had planned to do before the roulette started, but now it's done. This band is now banned.)
Added:
- Lyre le Temps - Lady Swings
- Anthrax - Sound of White Noise
- Fire! Orchestra - Exit
- Jesu - Jesu
- Tom Waits - Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers & Bastards
- Bohren & Der Club Of Gore - Sunset Mission
- Various Artists - Whom the Moon a Nightsong Sings
- Kayo Dot - Hubardo
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Alright, if I get less than three, you get Winger for the next entry from the list.
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This is what I get from adding them to the list :lol
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i want to say you adding Jesu to the list is related to you liking my entry this round, but... :hat
i still need to get that album myself.
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\o For both Tom Waits and Bohren. Though I'd be more likely to send something from Piano Nights than Sunset Mission.
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\o For both Tom Waits and Bohren. Though I'd be more likely to send something from Piano Nights than Sunset Mission.
I sampled a bit of Sunset Mission and liked it enough to add it, but feel free to send from either :P
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on that note i meant to ask and forgot
i have to imagine the hirsch effekt being on your list is my fault, but the album you have on the list is not the one i have :lol
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Nah it probably was a friend recommendation or grabbed it from a "Best of 2012" list :P
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ok well i'm going to be sending you something from them off the album i actually do have instead :P
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Argh I wanna know how low mine is
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RESULTS... in a few hours from now. :P
:corn
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I'm not even in this roulette and I want to know :corn :corn :corn :corn
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The hype is real.
Results two hours after this post.
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the hype is unrealistic
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The hype is full of LIES
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:rollin
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The hype is real, the only lie is the cake :P
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The hype is real, the only lie is the cake :P
I'm doing science and I'm still alive :hat
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The hype is real, the only lie is the cake :P
Apparently this would have been too big a post for the forum. :'(
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Jesus Sacul.. Learn to post results in a timely manner, like myself.
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You guys are awesome :rollin
First of all, I think this round turned out better than expected - lots of songs grew on me a bit. Now, results:
(splent) Yellow Magic Orchestra - Behind the Mask
Oh, the 70s. Strange and fascinating times. This is a pretty fun song, with those robotic vocals. Doesn't do much for me tho - if Michael Jackson was blown away with it, that only means he and I have very different tastes. +3/5
(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Oh I've heard of this albums' legend - Vernon shut himself in a cabin for 3 months, pouring all of his demons into music. That alone is haunting. But, as sad as it makes me... that's not what I look for in music. Because I actually look for music, not lyrical content, as heart-breaking it might be. Not because I actively decide not to care, but, as I explained on seneca's previous entry, lyrics just don't connect with me. Hell, he could have been singing about sausages with mustard, and I'd still have given this the same score. Because, well... this is nice. But just that. +3/5
(mikemangioy) Twelve Foot Ninja - One Hand Killing
I remember these guys from plug sessions - added their debut to the list because one of its songs was pretty good, and creative. This, on the other hand... sounds a bit generic. Nothing bad per se on it, but there are quite some part I feel I've heard elsewhere, and maybe done better. +3/5
(sneakyblueberry) Hiatus Kaiyote - Breathing Underwater
I like this, is pretty chill. Dunno what genre this is, but I like what I hear. Yet it doesn't do much to me. Maybe it's the pretty repetitive vocal melodies? 3.5/5
(Tyrias) The Tallest Man on Earth - Love is All
I have to admit it took lots of listen for this to grow on me. And with "this" I mean his voice. It's rough, it's high-pitched, it's... nice. It definitely fits the "lonely travelling singer-songwriter" image I created in my head. Now that is no longer a problem, time to focus on the guitar. Which isn't bad by any means, but doesn't really move me or anything - it's just there, playing nice notes. Interesting piece all in all. 3.5/5
(Evermind) Enigma - Knocking on Forbidden Doors
Well this is pretty good actually, but I feel I've listened to better songs on this style, like most of what DJ Shadow does is better than this. Not your fault, it's just that I really dig this kind of music and have explored it a lot these last months, so it will be a bit difficult to please me on this field. Is it really all sampled? I feel the guitar sounds and the chantings were recorded for this song. Not that it matters much tho. All in all, great atmosphere and sounds, yet it feels a bit inventive after a while, since it doesn't really feel like it evolves throughout it. 3.5/5
(Train of Naught) Koan Sound - Sly Fox
Well, I've gotta admit this one took quite some time to grow. At first, it felt very one-dimensional, and while it might not be the most varied piece I've received on the roulette so far, it's pretty good at what it does. Nice grooves and effects. Nothing too special, but not as bad as I thought it initially was. Well... shall we dance? +3.5/5
(Bolsters) CHVRCHES - You Caught the Light
Sadly, I have no subwoofers, not my headphones have a big bass response -actually I prefer it that way, I'm not a bass-whore- but I get what you mean - lots of subtle details are on the bass section. So, at first this was the best out of the two CHVRCHES songs I received. Really like the atmosphere of this track, very chill, and even though it's a bit of an unusual one for this kind of music, I dig it. Maybe a bit too simple? 4/5
(senecadawg2) The Antlers - Kettering
This song already starts very well, with a sweet piano and simple vocals. Then slowly reaches a splendid climax. Although the atmosphere is minimalist, this is quite a moving moment. Then, a quiet outro. And, well... that's it. While I quite loath pieces that take too long to build up to a climax (like a lot of post-rock), this one, on the other hand, felt too short for its own good - it left me desiring more. Maybe it works better in the context of the album? 4/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) CHVRCHES - The Mother We Share
At first... I didn't want to like this. Because lots of these sounds are used in some pretty lame pop radio hits. But took me some listens to realize how this one is different from typical pop bullshit - it's emotional without using cheap drama. And with some pretty creative songwriting. Maybe with more spins I'll end up liking it more. 4/5
(FlyingBISKIT) The Dear Hunter - At the End of the Earth
Well, while I quite liked the other TDH song you showed me (and for some reason forgot to add to my list), I've gotta say this one didn't disappoint - excellent atmosphere and songwriting. Yet the weakest link I find is, as with all of the other albums by them I've checked, is their vocal melodies. The singer is good, but what he sings ends up being rather unmemorable - a thing that has quite improved on this one, yet still doesn't convince me. Anyways, I may actually get into these guy's music, for it seems their last album is up my alley. 4/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Machine Head - A Farewell to Arms
If I picked apart the different sections of this song, each on its own wouldn't feel very remarkable nor original. Yet as a unique piece, I'm amazed at how they all flow into each other - really a case where the whole works better than the sum of its parts. Excellent guitar work and drumming in general. For some reason I feel I should like this one more than I do. Maybe because even 5-6 listens aren't enough to fully process what's going on here. Anyways, excellent track - will surely check this album. +4/5
(Elite) Alt-J - Taro
Well, this is way better than your last submission. Very nice little piece, and great vocals, except at times when his voice becomes a bit harsh or nasal. But the instrumentation is wonderful, specially that part that appears at 1.20 and is repeated sometimes, so beautiful, vivid and innocent - yes. Music like this can be quite cheesy honestly, and turn me off (*cough* Disney *cough*), but when it's good (like Ommadawn, or Hurtbreak Wonderland, or like this), it's like the best thing ever. Or almost. I don't have much to add, other than I liked this a lot. 4.5/5
(home) Fair to Midland - Orphan Anthem 86'
Now I regret not exploring more of these guys' music - this one is pretty epic, and crushing, specially the excellent piano work. don't have much to say about it, really - well, maybe the vocal melodies, that wouldn't be my cuppa tea, work perfect here. Top notch instrumentation too. It's just very, very good. 4.5/5
(Parama) The Angelic Process - Dying in A-Minor
If a word defines this song, that is: crushing. And I really like this. Those distant vocals with reverb, man... I fucking love those. It's a bit of a fetish. The raw emotion of this... damn. It strikes home. All I can imagine while listening to it is someone slowly drowning at the bottom of the sea while recreating painful memories. Really a dark emotional piece, reminds me of Deathconsciousness' heaviest, most intense moments like Earthmover. Definitely didn't expect to like this one this much - was between a 4.5 and a +4.5, but went with the former by now. Maybe after listening to it in a few weeks, or in the album context it will grow a bit more. 4.5/5
Standings:
+8.5 - home x
8.5 - Bolsters xx
+8 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 x
+8 - Fluffy Lothario xx
+7.5 - Elite xx
7.5 - splent xx
7.5 - Evermind xx
7.5 - Train of Naught x
7.5 - senecadawg2 xx
7.5 - Biskit x
7.5 - Parama xx
+7 - 425 xx
7 - Tyrias xx
6.5 - mikemangioy x
6.5 - Sneakyblueberry x
(x= one song sent from the list)
The new guy strikes again! Wondering if he will be able to keep this rate. After a faulty beginning, Elite has managed to climb to the top 5 (which remains basically unchanged), leaving a disappointed splent behind (sorry not sorry), which suggests the elitist player he might have done a bit of research - if that's the case, then it has quite paid off. In the meantime, there's a heavy competition in the middle ground, and everybody has a chance to enter the glorious top 5, and thus reach the finals, if they play their cards with wisdom. But 425 and Tyrias, who had a strong opening, have fallen down quite a bit, but stil have chances to make up for their choices. And we finish with sneaky and mikemangioy who, I suspect, have no idea of what they are doing on this roulette. "Damn, I should have sent Adrenaline Mob or Winger..." grumbled one of them. But fear not, my friends! For there are still many rounds ahead, and who knows, there might be a dramatic turn of events (pun not intended) before this ends.
Credits: 0. Send song to keep playing: you have 48hs.
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Tyrias, good call on Love Is All. Great song.
Will send soon.
edit: Sent. Also kudos for Kettering, that whole album is incredible.
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Great I'm glad you enjoyed it !
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I have a feeling the Ninja had also send CHVRCHES. I was hoping my song would score higher than his though. :biggrin:
I have submitted my third song of the roulette.
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I have now added a Spotify playlist of Round 2 in the OP, and also a "Best of Roulette" one, with any song that receives a 4 or more from now on. If any of you wants to make a YT one, feel free to do so and PM me the link so I add it :P
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If any of you wants to make a YT one, feel free to do so and PM me the link so I add it :P
Pass. :P
I do like this Spotify playlist idea though, I'm definitely going to steal it.
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Sent.
The Tallest Man on Earth's The Wild Hunt is an awesome album, and Bon Iver's For Emma is even better, just squeezed its way into the 50-75 bracket on my fav albums list (in my post-write-up reshuffle). But I didn't send it, because I didn't think it's the kind of album where any of the songs would hit very hard if you remove them from the context of the album.
Also, Antlers have been languishing on my to-check-out list since their first big album. They've pretty high up in the last year or so though.
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I seriously love the Spotify Playlist idea. I really appreciate that, I'm listening through them now. Definitely giving me lots of ideas for the very distant future when I do one of these things.
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I seriously love the Spotify Playlist idea. I really appreciate that, I'm listening through them now. Definitely giving me lots of ideas for the very distant future when I do one of these things.
It's actually the playlist I used to listen to most of this rounds' entries, but it was secret until now. Great you like it :tup
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yay i got someone else to love the angelic process :lol
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What if you have an album on your list, by a particular band, and we know that they have another quite similar album (in style and quality) and we want to send you something from it. Would you add that second album to the list, or would that have to count as one of our five, non-list songs?
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The later. If a band has more than an album on the list it means that they are very different in style (like the Bowie records I have there), or are very praised and couldn't just leave one.
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Aww dammit
I'll send soon
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DAMMMIT SHADOW NINJA AND BOLSTERS I WAS GOING TO SEND CHVRCHES THIS ROUND.
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The thing about YMO... That was released in 1979. They were one of the first bands to do music like this. It was pretty groundbreaking for the time.
Gotta rethink my strategy now with Chvrches being taken... GAH... Torn between two or three songs...
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Well, I actually do really like his guitar playing and think it's special, but opinions and stuff. He's a lot better live than in studio though, that's for sure.
Sent for round 3 as well. Hope you like it as much as the song deserves this time :).
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Yeah.. I feel like we have a lot of music likes in common, but I like a wider range of stuff that you do so I'm trying to introduce you to stuff I feel you may like, going by our common interests. Maybe my taste is too eclectic to be effective. Oh well.
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Alright, well, whatever. No Winger for you then. Yet.
I'm just going to keep sending songs with whatever results I'll get. That's kinda the reason I don't play in roulettes where I know our tastes don't align almost at all.
Will send later today.
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Noooooo!
I literally wanted to send A Farewell to Arms this round :'( but I'mstill glad you liked it.
Also noticed today that TDH wasn't on the banned list so I wanted to send thst as well.
Ah well, will send R3 in a bit, and glad you liked Sly Fox, the thing that pushed me to send it was the intro, I thought you'd dig those lounge-type piano and bass a lot :tup
EDIT: Damnit, just read the spotify idea, I'm 0.25 points short of making the playlist twice in a row :'( Nonetheless I think this is the best score I got for an electronic song apart from Witchcraft in FBK's roulette.
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(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Oh I've heard of this albums' legend - Vernon shut himself in a cabin for 3 months, pouring all of his demons into music. That alone is haunting. But, as sad as it makes me... that's not what I look for in music. Because I actually look for music, not lyrical content, as heart-breaking it might be. Not because I actively decide not to care, but, as I explained on seneca's previous entry, lyrics just don't connect with me. Hell, he could have been singing about sausages with mustard, and I'd still have given this the same score. Because, well... this is nice. But just that.
The funny thing is, the lyrics on most Bon Iver shit is pretty much nonsense anyway, and mostly work phonetically. FE,FA is a great album, and has a fantastically eerie vibe. I'm quite fond of the second album tho.
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(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Oh I've heard of this albums' legend - Vernon shut himself in a cabin for 3 months, pouring all of his demons into music. That alone is haunting. But, as sad as it makes me... that's not what I look for in music. Because I actually look for music, not lyrical content, as heart-breaking it might be. Not because I actively decide not to care, but, as I explained on seneca's previous entry, lyrics just don't connect with me. Hell, he could have been singing about sausages with mustard, and I'd still have given this the same score. Because, well... this is nice. But just that.
The funny thing is, the lyrics on most Bon Iver shit is pretty much nonsense anyway, and mostly work phonetically. FE,FA is a great album, and has a fantastically eerie vibe. I'm quite fond of the second album tho.
Wait, Sacul doesn't care about lyrics? I'm off to send some heavy metal anthem about how metal is forever and great and is the best thing ever.
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:lol
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(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Oh I've heard of this albums' legend - Vernon shut himself in a cabin for 3 months, pouring all of his demons into music. That alone is haunting. But, as sad as it makes me... that's not what I look for in music. Because I actually look for music, not lyrical content, as heart-breaking it might be. Not because I actively decide not to care, but, as I explained on seneca's previous entry, lyrics just don't connect with me. Hell, he could have been singing about sausages with mustard, and I'd still have given this the same score. Because, well... this is nice. But just that.
The funny thing is, the lyrics on most Bon Iver shit is pretty much nonsense anyway, and mostly work phonetically. FE,FA is a great album, and has a fantastically eerie vibe. I'm quite fond of the second album tho.
Wait, Sacul doesn't care about lyrics? I'm off to send some heavy metal anthem about how metal is forever and great and is the best thing ever.
Sent some Primal Fear.
Some talk of noise pollution
When we play our heavy metal
Don't be judgemental it's our way of life
:metal
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(Train of Naught) Koan Sound - Sly Fox
Well... shall we dance? +3.5/5
Of course my dear!
Also, sent. oldie but goldie, I wonder how many rounds it'll take me to send something prog.
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(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Oh I've heard of this albums' legend - Vernon shut himself in a cabin for 3 months, pouring all of his demons into music. That alone is haunting. But, as sad as it makes me... that's not what I look for in music. Because I actually look for music, not lyrical content, as heart-breaking it might be. Not because I actively decide not to care, but, as I explained on seneca's previous entry, lyrics just don't connect with me. Hell, he could have been singing about sausages with mustard, and I'd still have given this the same score. Because, well... this is nice. But just that.
The funny thing is, the lyrics on most Bon Iver shit is pretty much nonsense anyway, and mostly work phonetically. FE,FA is a great album, and has a fantastically eerie vibe. I'm quite fond of the second album tho.
I was really disappointed with the second album. The production is really weird and oversaturated, none of the songs go anywhere, and while For Emma's vocals are hard to decipher some of the time, it never impeded my enjoyment of the album, whereas on the second album, I just found myself frustrated every time I listened to it because I couldn't hear a thing he was saying.
For Emma was the business though.
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Really? That's funny. I think, I heard them in reverse order, with the self-titled first, so I'm biased towards it. I hear what you're saying with the songs, they do seem to meander a bit, but for some reason it's never really impeded my enjoyment of it.
I think Perth -> Minnesota, WI is right up there with Mojo Pin -> Grace as the best one-two album openers ever. And the way Minnesota opens is majestic - I love how there's this wash of layered guitar that somehow dovetails with that big obnoxious drum fill into a syncopated skank rhythm. Part of the magic is in how I can never really figure out how it gets there.
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I love the second album, whereas I don't think I've ever made it all the way through For Emma, Forever Ago without getting bored and moving to something else.
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Ha, I guessed right! Sent the entry for the third round, I was quite suprised that the album the song is off is on your list :p No clue if you'll like it, we'll see.
By the way, if you want to check out more of Fair To Midland, I would suggest listening to: Fables from a Mayfly or Arrows and Anchors. Fables from a Mayfly is more focused and more "beautifull" whereas Arrows and Anchors is more raw and diverse.
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I already sent, but now I'm backpedalling... I think... Oh well you know what you may like it.
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(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Oh I've heard of this albums' legend - Vernon shut himself in a cabin for 3 months, pouring all of his demons into music. That alone is haunting. But, as sad as it makes me... that's not what I look for in music. Because I actually look for music, not lyrical content, as heart-breaking it might be. Not because I actively decide not to care, but, as I explained on seneca's previous entry, lyrics just don't connect with me. Hell, he could have been singing about sausages with mustard, and I'd still have given this the same score. Because, well... this is nice. But just that.
The funny thing is, the lyrics on most Bon Iver shit is pretty much nonsense anyway, and mostly work phonetically. FE,FA is a great album, and has a fantastically eerie vibe. I'm quite fond of the second album tho.
Wait, Sacul doesn't care about lyrics? I'm off to send some heavy metal anthem about how metal is forever and great and is the best thing ever.
Oh well. It's kind of hard to tell what Sacul is going to like :lol
Anyway, sent Whiplash.
We'll never stop we'll never quit
Cause we're Metallica
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Wait, I just now noticed Ride the Lightning and AJFA are on the mighty list. So all this time I could've sent you Fade to Black? Goddamnit.
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I think Sacul is very unlikely to like a Metallica song, IIRC.
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Well Call of cthulu is kind the only Metallica song I really like, but haven't bothered with their albums apart from MoP which I found quite boring as a whole.
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So, let's vote, which lyric is more cringeworthy?
Some talk of noise pollution
When we play our heavy metal
Don't be judgemental it's our way of life
We'll never stop we'll never quit
Cause we're Metallica
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The second one I guess, but it's not like they will affect the score. Now if you sent me Blackfield's Go To Hell, that's another story :lol
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Do I get bonus points if I send a south-american song?
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No.
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BRAZIL! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peA6xbaBMBk) :metal
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:bosk1:
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So, let's vote, which lyric is more cringeworthy?
Some talk of noise pollution
When we play our heavy metal
Don't be judgemental it's our way of life
We'll never stop we'll never quit
Cause we're Metallica
:biggrin:
Hmm. The name drop in the Metallica song is bad, but "Don't be judgmental it's our way of life" is basically the slogan of being 14 years old. It's tough to pick.
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So, let's vote, which lyric is more cringeworthy?
Some talk of noise pollution
When we play our heavy metal
Don't be judgemental it's our way of life
We'll never stop we'll never quit
Cause we're Metallica
:biggrin:
Hmm. The name drop in the Metallica song is bad, but "Don't be judgmental it's our way of life" is basically the slogan of being 14 years old. It's tough to pick.
I seriously sent that song though. :lol
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Well, if Sacul doesn't care about lyrics, might as well test that, right? :lol
I don't know what I'm sending yet, but it's probably not going to be Metallica, and it's certainly not going to be anything off Kill 'Em All.
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Well, if Sacul doesn't care about lyrics, might as well test that, right? :lol
I don't know what I'm sending yet, but it's probably not going to be Metallica, and it's certainly not going to be anything off Kill 'Em All.
Yeah. It's pretty kickass metal though, what I've sent.
I was thinking about something from Heaven and Hell by Black Sabbath, but I was kinda worried that dated production will bother him. On the other hand, the bass really grooves on that album. I might send it later.
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Yeah.. I feel like we have a lot of music likes in common, but I like a wider range of stuff that you do so I'm trying to introduce you to stuff I feel you may like, going by our common interests. Maybe my taste is too eclectic to be effective. Oh well.
I definitely encourage you to show me stuff outside my comfort zone :tup
Oh well. It's kind of hard to tell what Sacul is going to like :lol
I realise that, even after writing a 5-page eassy on my tastes, it's difficult to predict whether I'll like something or not :lol
I was thinking about something from Heaven and Hell by Black Sabbath, but I was kinda worried that dated production will bother him. On the other hand, the bass really grooves on that album. I might send it later.
I think the only case where it'd bother me is if the production is really lame, and muddy. Or like DT12 :P
If it helps, I'll say that I've been quite getting into stoner rock as of late, and since the early Sabbath albums seem to be kinda like that, well, I may like them .
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Heaven and Hell is basically perfect heavy metal. I might send them in R4 or R5, I don't have a lot of choices from the list anyway. And, well, if that goes bad, I may screw my plan of sending the five tracks I've picked out already for the latter rounds and just go with the metal approach all the way.
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I'd say you send early before someone cockblocks you :P
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Come on, no one is mad enough to send you Sabbath, Helloween or Gamma Ray.
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Keep in mind that that one crazy user, 425, is completely bonkers and doesn't have THAT many albums from Sacul's list.
But that lunatic is already thinking of something else to send for this round, and he probably isn't that mean.
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Why, but I added Helloween and Gamma Ray specially for you to send them, Ev :neverusethis:
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Yea I should've just sent A Farewell to Arms, like anyone was going to send KOAN Sound :lol
But to be fair, I didn't think you'd like it this much, hence why I waited with it. I was even thinking of sending another MH album that's not on your list.
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My advice: send all of the big, well-known albums on the list as soon as you can because its quite probable someone will cockblock you :P
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The good thing about playing in a roulette like this, where every round is scored equally and they're all open, is that you can frontload the stuff that you think other people might take, and then send your more obscure picks in the later rounds.
Pre-posting edit: Sacul posts the same sentiment right at the same time as I do.
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I just scanned the list before the first round and made my own vague list of 8 to 10 songs I could send, giving myself some leeway in case some artists were taken, as was the case with Jeff Buckley, for example. My first five picks will be anything still available on that list. I definitely expect at least one more to go before I get to it, if not as many as 3 or 4.
After those first 5 rounds, the deluge.
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After those first 5 rounds, the deluge.
Oh, definitely.
Got 14 submissions so far :tup
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Who's slacking?
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He still has like 5 hours to send before I PM him - if he doesn't by then, I shall reveal his identity :P
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Will you then publicly shame him in the thread title? Pretty please
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Definitely :police:
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Pretty sure I sent. I can't remember tho.
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Yeah, you sent glam metal :P
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you love it
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PM sent, and law enforced :police:
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RIP :lol
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Who's slacking?
I am the new you.
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Who's slacking?
I am the new you.
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(https://www.natural-homeremedies-for-life.com/images/home-remedies-for-burns.jpg)
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Expect results this :friday: evening.
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Are they so bad it only took you one sentence to summarize each song?
EDIT: Nevermind, didn't see the :friday: there, this evening would be pretty quick anyway.
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i have hopefully scarred sacul for life :corn
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EDIT: Nevermind, didn't see the :friday: there, this evening would be pretty quick anyway.
Yeah, too quick for my own taste, despite having given everything at least 3 listens at this point. I'll do another listen later today, 2 more tomorrow, nothing the day after, and a final one while doing writeups on Friday. With an hour and a half of material, this feels like the best approach to digest all of these songs :P
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Also, these days I've been hunting new music, and have added these albums to the list:
- Ashram - Shining Silver Skies
- Fair to Midland - Inter.Funda.Stifle (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Father John Misty - I love you, honeybear
- Hidden Orchestra - Archipelago
- Hidden Orchestra - Night Walks
- Hundred Waters - The Moon Rang Like A Bell
- IAMX - The Alternative
- Lorde - Pure Heroine
- Parov Stellar - Shine
- Perfume Genius - Put Your Back N 2 It
- Peter Murphy - Lion
- Puscifer - Conditions of My Parole
- Puscifer - V is for Vagina
- The Dear Hunter - Act IV (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- The XX - Coexist
- VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theater
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Oh look, another batch of albums I've never heard anything from.
Alright, I think I've heard something from the new The Dear Hunter and Puscifer due to Nick's New-Year-Wrap-Up WPAPU show, but I kinda disliked what I've heard and that's about it.
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Lol puscifer. They're pretty... Interesting :lol but I like them
I've never heard anyone else mention them here
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Alright, I think I've heard something from the new The Dear Hunter but I kinda disliked what I've heard and that's about it.
We can't be friends then.
Currently listening to an album I never listened to in full before because I'm running short on 'the mighty list' songs that I actually like, the idea is fun but you can expect to get worse songs than normal, maybe I'll recommend better songs of a better album if you liked the submission alright.
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That's because you didn't send A Farewell to Arms before being cockblocked :P
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oh, okay, lorde's going on the list to send you then :lol
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Yea but to be fair A Farewell to Arms was my #2 choice, I only wanted to send it if I needed to have another list-submission, if you followed my top 50 you know I prefer Unto the Locust so you probably would've gotten Pearls Before the Swine, This is the End or Darkness Within. If you'll like The Blackening at all (which I assume you will check out) you should at least give them a try at some point in your life.
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Every submission I receive from the list, is an album I'll check out even if your song sucked. You could almost say this roulette is a way to organize what albums from the list I'll listen to first :lol
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Every submission I receive from the list, is an album I'll check out even if your song sucked. You could almost say this roulette is a way to organize what albums from the list I'll listen to first :lol
I should definitely send Winger then. That will probably be the worst hour of your life.
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Then I'll send more Swans in your roulette :P
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oh, okay, lorde's going on the list to send you then :lol
I'll leave her to you in this one, Parama.
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it works out nicely bcuz i wanted to send a song from a band that was not off the album he had on the list but now i can just push that to the non-list entries instead :lol
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All my songs have been on the list.
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Alright, I think I've heard something from the new The Dear Hunter but I kinda disliked what I've heard and that's about it.
We can't be friends then.
+1 ;D
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oh, okay, lorde's going on the list to send you then :lol
As soon as I saw that I thought "he's getting at least three Lorde songs next round". :lol
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oh, okay, lorde's going on the list to send you then :lol
As soon as I saw that I thought "he's getting at least three Lorde songs next round". :lol
Dammit I was going to send royals.
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I'm not going to do it out of respect for Parama, and because I have other things to send anyway.
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I'm not going to do it out of respect for Parama, and because I have other things to send anyway.
You should send flyingbizkit's song before you send anything else dude
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:rollin
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What is that supposed to mean :lol
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oh, okay, lorde's going on the list to send you then :lol
As soon as I saw that I thought "he's getting at least three Lorde songs next round". :lol
Dammit I was going to send royals.
at least half the album is better than Royals :lol
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What is that supposed to mean :lol
Sorry I had to. :lol
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what is a royal
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something we'll never be
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something we'll never be
We are made for that kind of lux
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Time for sneakpeeks! Notice these are 4th listen impressions (I never trust my first ones, not anymore), so they should be somehow accurate of the final writeups. Preliminar scores ranges about the same as last round, and I'd say this one has been a bit more consistent if anything. Oh, and two people have sent the same band, but different albums, one on the list and the other not. Have fun!
Ohboy, this is like the 4th song with a buildup on this round, what the hell :lol
Well this is pretty nice and chill, I like the unconventional instrumentation. My complaint is that it drags, really.
I really dig the vocal harmonies on this song, and the general vibe of it, quite melancholic.
I get how many will like this, but I prefer my metal more... unique. Not derivative nor generic, with Alter Bridge being the exception because their songwriting is top-notch.
Honestly, I prefer the other song by these guys by a nice margin.
What turns me off from most [genre] albums, and has slowed down my exploration of it is the huge amount of CRAPPY covers. This one, eh... it's alright.
First thing I notice, these guys, despite their influences, have a personal sound, and I always appreciate that.... The best chorus of the round, and maybe of the roulette? It's just excellent.
For being such a long tune, this actually flows very well, and feels shorter. Pretty creative tune.
My problem is, the more I go back in time, the less I'm likely to find pieces I relate to. Maybe had I been born in the [decade], I would have loved this song.
It's pretty badass, yes, but, well... this kind of thing it's not for me.
Honestly, I have never given [band] a fair chance. And this is better than expected.
This is the kind of buildup I like, where something new appears every several bars, so the song keeps evolving and it never gets boring.
I don't know what kind of music this is, other than gorgeous.
This is the kind of music I've heard quite a lot on radios, as in a very similar vein, and had never intrigued me. This, on the other, is very well written.
This is a song that, despite having listened to it several times, I can't remember a single thing from it, besides the beginning. It's nice, but nothing too special tbh.
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literally no clue so i'll just wait for results :lol
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Yeah what parama said. About 4 could be mine. I know which ones are definitely not...
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Well this is pretty nice and chill, I like the unconventional instrumentation. My complaint is that it drags, really.
Probably mine.
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Ohboy, this is like the 4th song with a buildup on this round, what the hell :lol
Honestly, I prefer the other song by these guys by a nice margin.
For being such a long tune, this actually flows very well, and feels shorter. Pretty creative tune.
Honestly, I have never given [band] a fair chance. And this is better than expected.
This is the kind of buildup I like, where something new appears every several bars, so the song keeps evolving and it never gets boring.
I don't know what kind of music this is, other than gorgeous.
This is a song that, despite having listened to it several times, I can't remember a single thing from it, besides the beginning. It's nice, but nothing too special tbh.
literally could be any of these :lol
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Funny thing is, none of the buildup songs is post-rock :lol
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does my song count as post-rock though
i mean yeah probably but they're definitely not a post-rock band
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Well this is pretty nice and chill, I like the unconventional instrumentation. My complaint is that it drags, really.
Probably mine.
No, it's mine. :angry:
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I guess mine is about badass or about non-unique metal. Anyway, I'm ready for my 3 points.
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I guess mine is about badass or about non-unique metal. Anyway, I'm ready for my 3 points.
Well you did send the worst song on the album. :P
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There's about 5 that could be mine and 4 of those are negative as shit :lol My guess is mine will be the "Maybe had I been born in the [decade], I would have loved this song"
Yea I'll probably not send old songs anymore after this, seems pretty risky with you.
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I guess mine is one of the write-ups about the build-ups, but it could be almost anything (except the metal or cover one I guess.)
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I guess mine is about badass or about non-unique metal. Anyway, I'm ready for my 3 points.
Well you did send the worst song on the album. :P
No I didn't.
I don't think Sacul would've reacted well to "when death comes knocking" repeated a billion times or to a nine minute epic, so I sent my third favourite song from it. :P
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First thing I notice, these guys, despite their influences, have a personal sound, and I always appreciate that.... The best chorus of the round, and maybe of the roulette? It's just excellent.
It's pretty badass, yes, but, well... this kind of thing it's not for me.
Honestly, I have never given [band] a fair chance. And this is better than expected.
This is the kind of buildup I like, where something new appears every several bars, so the song keeps evolving and it never gets boring.
This is the kind of music I've heard quite a lot on radios, as in a very similar vein, and had never intrigued me. This, on the other, is very well written.
This is a song that, despite having listened to it several times, I can't remember a single thing from it, besides the beginning. It's nice, but nothing too special tbh.
These all could be mine.
Which means either you like it or you don't.
Big help there :lol:
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Sucky round part three I guess :corn
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Were you born in the 2000's?
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My problem is, the more I go back in time, the less I'm likely to find pieces I relate to. Maybe had I been born in the [decade], I would have loved this song.
Honestly, I have never given [band] a fair chance. And this is better than expected.
I think one of these two is about the song I sent.
Fair to Midland - Inter.Funda.Stifle (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
Most of the songs from Inter.Funda.Stifle made it to Fables From a Mayfly: What I Tell You Three Times Is True which has a much better production. (Inter.Funda.Stifle was self-produced I believe) So I'd suggest listening to Fables first, well unless you prefer the raw production on Inter.Funda.Stifle which has a certain charm I think. ;)
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srry dubblepost :sad:
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Were you born in the 2000's?
Nope, 90's.
Oh, and splent... None of those tidbits is yours :lol
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Well that helps. Not at all. :lol
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:soon:
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it's not friday yet
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:neverusethis:
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I say post it before the new album comes out
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Which new album's that?
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the new rihanna album obviously
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No, I was referring to the new adrenaline mob album
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Tool
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Nickelback
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but the joke is that rihanna album is actually a real thing that just got released :lol
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Despite me being in a big musical exploration these last weeks (mainly for roulette purposes :P), the next list update before results will likely be the last one, since I've been finding less and less good stuff as of late, and I already have a shit ton of records to check, and most big, iconic ones covered, so if I have to update the list again, it will be a few rounds later, and maybe just one of two albums.
Also, my PC is on mantainance, and should be ready tomorrow at best, but if not, results will likely be pushed back to Saturday. We'll see what happens - stay tuned.
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Actually I plan on sending Nickelback and edit tje artist and song name in the yt video someday. Not gonna give away which one though.
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I put all the songs I can on Spotify, so if it is there, your trick will fail :P
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ok now it's friday
where are results
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:friday:
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Also, my PC is on mantainance, and should be ready tomorrow at best, but if not, results will likely be pushed back to Saturday. We'll see what happens - stay tuned.
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Even if I had my computer, I wouldn't post them until the evening here (GMT -3), and I'm actually going to sleep now, so be patient :lol
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Hey, there's no round where longer songs will be allowed right? I have an amazing 12 minute song waiting for you. :corn
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I decided in the last round, before the one with the top 5 players, there will be a limit of up to 18 mins. More on that later :P
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Hey, there's no round where longer songs will be allowed right? I have an amazing 12 minute song waiting for you. :corn
hey, go stare at your sig for a few weeks
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I too have an amazing 12 minute song waiting for you. I hope it's not the same song as ToN has. :lol
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Hey, there's no round where longer songs will be allowed right? I have an amazing 12 minute song waiting for you. :corn
hey, go stare at your sig for a few weeks
Sent Priestess :neverusethis:
I too have an amazing 12 minute song waiting for you. I hope it's not the same song as ToN has. :lol
I think we should make an agreement that if it is, let's both send it and hope he will allow us to get the same score. I just found out about this album and this song in particular is a gem. But mine is 12:04 so we can't possibly be talking about the same song
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I will only let 2 people send the same song if it is a coincidence, not a conspiracy :P
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Hey guys, two options: I can try posting results from my phone, but they'd be ugly and/or incomplete, and wouldn't include the updated ranking, thing I could fix in a few days when I get my computer back. Or we could all just wait until I get it :P
Please vote on the poll.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG :police:
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i've got some astonishing to do so i can wait
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i've got some astonishing to do so i can wait
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NOOOOOOOO I WANT THEM NOOOOW
(https://www.virginmedia.com/images/evilwomen-verucasalt-590x350.jpg)
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Oh, realised I can edit my write-ups through Evernote, and even update the rankings. That means results in two hours from now - they won't have italics nor bolded parts so it will feel a bit weird, but will later fix that with my PC.
GET HYPED
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I'm going to have to vote for Kevin Moore. He's not fucking, he's too busy staring at the vest page of that damned catalog.
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Results! Pleae mind that they're NOT in order "from worst to best", as that would take me a lot of time on my phone. I've gotta say, I feel this round is, while not stronger than the previous ones, it's the most consistent of them all.
(mikemangioy) Nevermore - The River Dragon Has Come
Well this is pretty heavy. But it sounds a bit uninventive to me, honestly. And while that might not be a problem per se (see Alter Bridge), there's nothing too, eh... remarkable on this. I get how many will like this, but I prefer my metal more... unique. Not derivative nor generic, with AB being the exception because their songwriting is top-notch. Come on, nigga, step up your game! I won your roulette, you deserve to do better. 3/5
(Bolsters) Frost* - Snowman
This is a song that, despite having listened to it several times, I can't recall a single thing from it, besides the beginning. I dig the electronic elements tho. It's nice, but nothing too special tbh. +3/5
(Evermind) Primal Fear - Inseminoid
Is this heavy metal or power metal? :P
To be honest, I can't see how me liking (actually, LOVING) Operation: Mindcrime would somehow make me likely to enjoy this - I feel both are pretty different. One has amazing riffs, killer drumming, and catchy vocal melodies. This is some catchy metal, but it doesn't do much for me. The drumming feels like doing the same thing for like 80% of the song, to the point where the drum kick starts to annoy me a bit. It's pretty badass, yes, but, well... this kind of thing it's not for me. Feels like they're trying too hard to be "metal as fuck" or something. Maybe the song's lyrics have something to do :lol
It's kind of generic, honestly. Like, I don't feel these guys have a unique sound, and that's something that turns me off. Nothing bad, but nothing remarkable. +3/5
(Train of Naught) Blue Öyster Cult - Astronomy
This is a pretty interesting piece, and dunno why I even included this album on the list. My problem is, the more I go back in time, the less I'm likely to find pieces I relate to. Maybe had I been born in the 70s, I would have loved this song. But it's just something about its particular melodies that doesn't strike me as particularly memorable. Oh, the chorus is pretty good, but the rest, specially considering the synth work... no. Is that kind of work that turns me off from most 70s and classic prog I've listened to. +3/5
(home) The Beatles - A Day In The Life
Honestly, I have never given The Beatles a fair chance. And this is better than expected. But... it's pretty weird, honestly. There's a pretty dark section before the middle, that repeats again near the end of the song. It's not bad on itself, but feels really awkward on the song context. Well, at least I can see why this album was groundbreaking at the time. And the outro... no. Just no. A weird loop repeating for 30s, why? 3.5/5
(FlyingBIZKIT) Incubus - Aqueous Transmission
Definitely didn't expect a track like this from these guys. I think they play some funk metal, or the like? Well this is pretty nice and chill, I like the unconventional instrumentation, the soft vocals, and the quiet percussion. My complaint is that it drags, really. 3.5/5
(senecadawg2) Foals - Spanish Sahara
This post-rock formula of long buildups is interesting, but I feel some bands pull it off better than others. Or in better albums than others lol. Because, this buildup didn't really pay off in my opinion. Honestly, I prefer the other song by these guys by a nice margin. +3.5/5
(425) Death Cab For Cutie - Transatlanticism
Ohboy, this is like the 4th song with a buildup on this round, what the hell :lol
Well, if it's a great buildup, one of those that add new details very few bars, I love them. If they only get faster or louder, well... meh.
This is a beautiful, emotive song, but its buildup structure is kinda bad executed, it just takes too long to reach the climax - imo a good buildup shouldn't take more than 5 mins. Oh, it's awesome when it reaches the best part, but feels one-dimensional for most of the song. Nothing is bad on this song (actually the melodies are very good) per se, except how it's written, and it makes this a tiring experience. Maybe if this had a break on the middle I'd have liked it more. +3.5/5
(sneakyblueberry) Frank Ocean - Pyramids
The first thing that popped in my mind is that this reminds me of those lame Drake songs, and a lot of modern, mainstream music. I think it's safe to say they got inspiration from this guy. This style is very interesting, and after like 6 listens I could finally shake all those lame songs' feelings - this is better written. For being such a long tune, this actually flows very well, and feels shorter. Pretty creative tune - please, keep sending stuff from outside my comfort zone. 4/5
(splent) OutKast - B.O.B.
What turns me off from most hip-hop albums, and has slowed down my exploration of it is the huge amount of CRAPPY covers. This one, eh... it's alright.
This tune has some great beats and rapping, and it's more varied than I'd have imagined, with that choir and the guitar bits. I dig it. 4/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Streetlight Manifesto - If and When We Rise Again
Ah, ska. This is the kind of music I've heard quite a lot on radios, as in a very similar vein, and had never intrigued me. This, on the other, is very well written. And lots of fun. The little chorus is great. It might not blow my mind, but I quite enjoy this. Excellent instrumentation. +4/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) múm - We Have A Map Of The Piano
I don't know what kind of music this is, other than gorgeous. This is a nice little, innocent song. I prefer the other one you were about to send me, but couldn't (sorry :lol ). But this piece is very intriguing. Almost childish, but in a good way. Yup, I like this combination of acoustic instruments with some minimal electronics. +4/5
(Parama) Mew - Comforting Sounds
I can see why this is one of your favorite songs. It's a very emotional one. Despite its length (I feel it drags a little bit tbh), I find myself liking this more with each listen. This is the kind of buildup I like, where something new appears every several bars, so the song keeps evolving and it never gets boring. My only complain is that the whole song is a fucking buildup, and at almost 9 mins, is a bit exhausting, considering the best part, by far, is the second half - when it reaches the climax, it's glorious. +4/5
(Elite) Arcade Fire - Wake Up
Oh Arcade Fire. One of the last big indie bands, and you send me something from their most iconic album. Nice. I really dig the vocal harmonies on this song, and the general vibe of it, quite melancholic. Great violin work btw. Not much more to add, other than while it didn't blow my mind, I quite enjoyed this. +4/5
(Tyrias) Foals - Inhaler
This is every intriguing piece. First thing I notice, these guys, despite their alternative rock influences, have a personal sound, and I always appreciate that. The chorus here is just fantastic, with, those post-rocky guitars, and that great climax. The best chorus of the round, and maybe of the roulette? It's just excellent. SPAAAAACEEE. I need to check this album right now, this is excellent. 4.5/5
Standings
12.5 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xx
12.5 - Fluffy Lothario xxx
+12 - home xx
12 - Elite xxx
+11.5 - Bolsters xxx
+11.5 - Parama xxx
11.5 - splent xxx
11.5 - Tyrias xxx
+11 - senecadawg2 xx
11 - Biskit xx
11 - 425 xxx
+10.5 - Evermind xxx
+10.5 - Train of Naught xx
10.5 - Sneakyblueberry xx
9.5 - mikemangioy xx
Mr Fluffy has proved not only to have a great music taste, but also the ability of picking songs outside my comfort zone that I quite enjoy. But WAIT A MINUTE. How the hell is Shadow Ninja doing SO WELL on this roulette?!? I'm as surprised as him I guess. In the meantime, home and Bolsters, who shined on the first 2 rounds have slipped a bit on this one, but still have strong chances to win if they know what to send. Either Tyrias or splent can enter the top 5 now, closely followed by seneca, who surprises me isn't annihilating everyone's ass at this point. The middle section is pretty hectic right now, so with a bit of luck, anybody can climb to the top 5. And mikemangioy still regrets not having sent Adrenaline Mob :P
Oh, and you have 24 hours to send
ALSO READ THIS: I've decided to allow live songs, as some tunes outdo their studio versions. The same rules apply as with normal submissions: if a band/artist is banned, or if your song belongs originally to an album that has a ranking on the list, good or bad, you CAN'T send it. Good luck!
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In the meantime, home and Bolsters, who shined on the first 2 rounds have slipped a bit on this one, but still have strong chances to win if they know what to send.
Well I had more confidence in Snowman than either of my previous submissions, so I wouldn't count on it.
We're all sending Lorde this round, right?
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Before last round I'll get back to songs from previous ones, and if some grow on me, update their score.
And I'll only allow 2 Lorde songs Max this round, so send quick :P
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And I'll only allow 2 Lorde songs Max this round, so send quick :P
Sent. Parama I left Buzzcut Season alone for you since you send it in roulettes a bit.
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it wouldn't matter because i sent like 15 minutes ago :loser:
i hope you didn't send Tennis Court or Still Sane
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it wouldn't matter because i sent like 15 minutes ago :loser:
i hope you didn't send Tennis Court or Still Sane
I sent Glory and Gore.
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AND I FORGOT: here's the last batch of new albums. They haven't been added to the list (yet) but imagine they're there.
Pendulum - Immersion
Paavoharju - Yhä hämärää
Tiny Vipers - Life on Earth
Perturbator - Dangerous Days
Paradise Lost - The Plague Within
Rise and Fall of a Decade - Rise and Fall of a Decade
Wovenhand - Blush Music
Jute - A Violent Narcotic
Quiet Child - If Only You Had Seen Me
Red Snapper - Making Bones
Teeth of the sea - Master
Darkside - Psychic
Lustmord - The Word as Power
Kauan - Sorni Nai
Airhead - For Years
Black Light Burns - Cruel Melody
Kingston Wall - II
Moby - Innocents
Holy Other - With U
Anna Von Hausswolff - Ceremony
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oh yeah i should comment on results.
1. what other mum song did he want to send you? he picked one of the better tracks IMO (that and Now There's That Fear Again are probably my favorites but the whole album is excellent)
2. that's about as good as i could've hoped from you, I guess :lol
3. i guess i should listen to that other Foals song, but Spanish Sahara is actually great and you're wrong :hat
4. i was considering sending Power Out from Arcade Fire but it didn't make the cut. that's like the only Arcade Fire song I've ever listened to a lot, Funeral was okay but didn't do a ton for me as a whole
Glory and Gore is a decent choice but I dunno if that'd make my top 5 from even the main album :lol
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What the fuck am I doing at the top of the scoreboard?!? Damn, I gotta screw this up somehow...
Sent
parama, I wanted to send green grass of tunnel.
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ahh. i think i'm glad you couldn't, 'cause there are several songs i like better, though green grass of tunnel is great too :lol
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Glory and Gore is a decent choice but I dunno if that'd make my top 5 from even the main album :lol
I'm trying to think of what our host might be more into, which will probably be my downfall.
Edit: and fuck all on that list for me, no idea what my fifth from the list will be yet.
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i will spill a secret that most of my entries in your roulette were trying to figure out what the hell you liked instead of just sending whatever the hell i felt like sending and i did way worse in that roulette than most of the others i've participated in so :lol
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Glory and Gore is a decent choice but I dunno if that'd make my top 5 from even the main album :lol
This.
Buzzcut Season, 400 Lux, Tennis Court, Team and Ribs at least probably all top it.
As for the results... Oh well. I wasn't really expecting to do super great in this roulette anyway, so I'll consider it an accomplishment if I find just one song that Sacul really loves.
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Buzzcut Season, 400 Lux, Tennis Court, Team and Ribs at least probably all top it.
I like Ribs and 400 Lux but I like Glory and Gore more than either.
i will spill a secret that most of my entries in your roulette were trying to figure out what the hell you liked instead of just sending whatever the hell i felt like sending and i did way worse in that roulette than most of the others i've participated in so :lol
You could have kept that a secret for all eternity, I genuinely thought you were just sending things almost completely at random. :lol
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Glory and Gore is a decent choice but I dunno if that'd make my top 5 from even the main album :lol
This.
Buzzcut Season, 400 Lux, Tennis Court, Team and Ribs at least probably all top it.
As for the results... Oh well. I wasn't really expecting to do super great in this roulette anyway, so I'll consider it an accomplishment if I find just one song that Sacul really loves.
I don't agree with Tennis Court and maybe not Ribs, but then you can replace them with White Teeth Teens and A World Alone and get the same result
and Bravado, The Love Club, and Swingin' Party off the bonus tracks too
i was sort of considering Bravado since it's great but it's technically not on the album so I don't know if Sacul would've counted it :P
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Let's say albums on the list are first pressings, so bonus tracks wouldn't count as list entries unless they're there from the beginning :P
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i'd probably still send Buzzcut Season either way because it's the best
i feel bad sending the same song a hundred times but it's just that good
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There's just something I really love about Tennis Court. Probably all the catchy af vocal parts. Ribs is just pure atmosphere, I didn't like it that much at first, but it just stuck with me. White Teeth Teens might be my least favorite on the album, but only by proxy. A World Alone is also very awesome.
I need to listen to the bonus tracks more. I have them, but I've only played them a couple of times.
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(home) The Beatles - A Day In The Life
And the outro... no. Just no. A weird loop repeating for 30s, why? 3.5/5
I'm not certain, but I think this was one of those albums that, on record, was rigged to loop forever when it reached the end. The thirty seconds of that weird thing looping emulates what went on forever on the record. You could kind of regard it to occur once or twice and call that the end of the song.
Mr Fluffy has proved not only to have a great music taste, but also the ability of picking songs outside my comfort zone that I quite enjoy.
And I still gotta send some jazz yet.
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While I can see and appreciate its artistic value, it just something I don't really enjoy, that loop.
Curious about that jazz, when/if you send it :P
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I sent some don't worry
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Nice, finally a great score. And you're also right abouz Spanish Sahara. While it's generally seen as the best song by the fanbase, I gind iz pretty average as well.
Will send on sunday.
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:lol
I knew sending songs from the list would be a problem for me, but I didn't imagine it would be that hard. Well, I don't even care anymore. Just hope you'll enjoy some of my songs from Round 6 onward.
Will send in a bit. I've spent like 15 seconds deciding on it.
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(Elite) Arcade Fire - Wake Up
Oh Arcade Fire. One of the last big indie bands, and you send me something from their most iconic album. Nice. I really dig the vocal harmonies on this song, and the general vibe of it, quite melancholic. Great violin work btw. Not much more to add, other than while it didn't blow my mind, I quite enjoyed this. +4/5
My first experience with this song was underwhelming, to be honest. But back then I wasn't really that much into music outside my comfort zone. I love the rawness and honesty of not only this track, but the entire record. It can be found in every instrument and in every vocal line. This band isn't there to make 'perfect(ly produced)' music, they just write very good songs. Glad you enjoyed it, but do check out the rest of Funeral as well.
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Well fuck. Getting the same score as a power metal song in a Sacul roulette says a lot. I kinda saw this coming though, no more 70s entries from me.
Gonna send in a bit.
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Well fuck. Getting the same score as a power metal song in a Sacul roulette says a lot.
:lol
Sent.
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Sent some cheaty stuff.
Also
Pendulum - Immersion
Fuck yea, the gods of music want me to win this roulette
Ooh I just saw you're going to update songs you'll like better. The chances of getting a + on Astronomy or Sly Fox are near to naught, but I still like to think Loose Change could become a 4/5
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(sneakyblueberry) Frank Ocean - Pyramids
The first thing that popped in my mind is that this reminds me of those lame Drake songs, and a lot of modern, mainstream music. I think it's safe to say they got inspiration from this guy. This style is very interesting, and after like 6 listens I could finally shake all those lame songs' feelings - this is better written. For being such a long tune, this actually flows very well, and feels shorter. Pretty creative tune - please, keep sending stuff from outside my comfort zone. 4/5
Glad you enjoyed it. I remember having the same first impression of this album when I first heard it, but after listening to it a few times it's clear to see that this album is much more than that. If Drake could write and sing half as well as Frank O then I would be a big Drake fan. But he can't. So I'm not.
Channel Orange is pretty much the album that pioneered that 'modern, mainstream' - much like The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill in the 90s, this is the the album that has spawned countless imitators in the 2010s. None of them come close to this album. I would rate it up there with MBDTF as one of the landmark hip-hop/rnb albums of all time, it has a similar vibe for me, but obviously with less rap and more emphasis on melody and great hooks. It manages to be as amazing as MBDTF with half the effort, half the instrumentation and half the collaborators.
Anyways, sent some prog metal. lol
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The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is one neat album.
Maybe I should check out this Frank Ocean business.
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The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is one neat album.
Maybe I should check out this Frank Ocean business.
I really like it, it would make my top 20, maybe top 10. For sure. Miseducation is great but I can't stomach much of it anymore. I have this really weird memory in my head this girl I knew singing along to Doo Wop (That Thing) and recording it and thinking she was so awesome (she wasn't) and she's one of the most annoying, self centered people I know, so now that I associate that album with her I can't listen to it. I have the same problem with another douchey guy I know who goes on and on about Foo Fighters. I USED to like Foo Fighters.
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I seem to suck more and more in roulettes :lol :lol
I will send soon of course
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(splent) OutKast - B.O.B.
What turns me off from most hip-hop albums, and has slowed down my exploration of it is the huge amount of CRAPPY covers. This one, eh... it's alright.
This tune has some great beats and rapping, and it's more varied than I'd have imagined, with that choir and the guitar bits. I dig it. 4/5
I'm glad you liked it. I was worried for a while. That entire album is awesome. I'm a little mad that I forgot about another song you'd probably like called "humble mumble" Which has some more electronic elements in it.
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(splent) OutKast - B.O.B.
What turns me off from most hip-hop albums, and has slowed down my exploration of it is the huge amount of CRAPPY covers. This one, eh... it's alright.
This tune has some great beats and rapping, and it's more varied than I'd have imagined, with that choir and the guitar bits. I dig it. 4/5
I'm glad you liked it. I was worried for a while. That entire album is awesome. I'm a little mad that I forgot about another song you'd probably like called "humble mumble" Which has some more electronic elements in it.
Great song, and great album.
Sacul, are you implying that it's a cover song? Your comments are confusing.
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I think he's talking about the albumcovers
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yeah I considered that, but that doesn't make any more sense.
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Well he did say somewhere that sometimes when he sees a cool album cover he just puts it on his list to check out :lol still makes little to no sense, but that's apparently the Sacul-thoughtprocess.
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I don't really understand your tastes, Sacul. I thought we were more compatible, but it seems I was wrong(?)
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I'm going to send a live song because I can now. The live version of the song I'll sent has so much more groove than the studio version :hat (Though it would perhaps be smarter to send a song from your list I think)
(home) The Beatles - A Day In The Life
Honestly, I have never given The Beatles a fair chance. And this is better than expected. But... it's pretty weird, honestly. There's a pretty dark section before the middle, that repeats again near the end of the song. It's not bad on itself, but feels really awkward on the song context. Well, at least I can see why this album was groundbreaking at the time. And the outro... no. Just no. A weird loop repeating for 30s, why? 3.5/5
I'd never given the Beatles a fair chance (until a few months ago) too! Sgt Pepper's Lonely Heartsclub Band is one of my favourite albums now I never considered that loop to be really part of the song actually (but it was on the youtube link I sent I know) The first few times I listened to Sgt Pepper I turned the album off before the loop started because I thought the album was finsihed :lol Was quite suprised when I heard a few listens lately, I see it more as a funny gimmick or something now.
In the meantime, home and Bolsters, who shined on the first 2 rounds have slipped a bit on this one, but still have strong chances to win if they know what to send.
Well I had more confidence in Snowman than either of my previous submissions, so I wouldn't count on it.
I'm just sending songs I really like, so I wouldn't count on it either :lol
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Well he did say somewhere that sometimes when he sees a cool album cover he just puts it on his list to check out :lol still makes little to no sense, but that's apparently the Sacul-thoughtprocess.
I believe albums with awful covers either reflect bad taste, or the artist not caring about that. So how can I know if it cared aboutthe music? IIt's part of the whole experience imo. Not that a nice cover would improve my perception of the music, but it triggers me how some don't even care about it.
And let's admit that like half of hip-hop album covers are guys with loads of money, cars, and whores, or just a bunch of them being 'thug' and Iooking tough :lol
I don't really understand your tastes, Sacul. I thought we were more compatible, but it seems I was wrong(?)
You know, even after dedicating tons of thought hours to it, and even writing a 5-page essay on my tastes, I realise they make little sense, for I have failed to find something that ties them all. Whenever I find something, appears this thing that contradicts it, and it all becomes pointless. If it helps, Steven Wilson, my favorite artist at the moment, represents everything I like in music. He never repeats himself (or at least tries, unlike AC/DC :P), has a very unique style of his own, sings short, simple, but catchy vocal melodies, his music mixes lots of different, eclectic influences, etc. But I also fucking love Anathema, who make some of the most emotional music I know. So, yeah. :lol
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Your two favorite artists seem to make quite soft music, screw it, my round 5 song is going to be a full-blown metal tune anyways.
Also you're online and I haven't received a PM, has my submission actually been accepted? ???
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Yeah, by I also love some heavy stuff like Six Degrees, or Addicted, or Jane Doe or RATM, so... :P
Yes, submission accepted. Oh, btw guys: someone has sent me what might be the best song of the roulette so far.
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Sorry guys, it was me.
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Sorry guys, it was me.
Thanks but you really don't have to take the blame for me
:D
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I won't get my hopes up.
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definitely not me
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It's me guys give up
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I know it wasn't me because I haven't sent yet.
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Don't forget to send soon, Elite Jr.
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If I send you a live version of a song from a list album that has a substantively different arrangement than the album version, does that count as a list submission or not? Not sure I'm going to do this, but I'd like to know if it's an option.
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If it's in the way Hollow Years was rearranged, then yes. If it feels like a different songs, then nope.
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Okay, good to know.
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I don't really understand your tastes, Sacul. I thought we were more compatible, but it seems I was wrong(?)
You know, even after dedicating tons of thought hours to it, and even writing a 5-page essay on my tastes, I realise they make little sense, for I have failed to find something that ties them all. Whenever I find something, appears this thing that contradicts it, and it all becomes pointless. If it helps, Steven Wilson, my favorite artist at the moment, represents everything I like in music. He never repeats himself (or at least tries, unlike AC/DC :P), has a very unique style of his own, sings short, simple, but catchy vocal melodies, his music mixes lots of different, eclectic influences, etc. But I also fucking love Anathema, who make some of the most emotional music I know. So, yeah. :lol
You're never gonna be able to sum up your taste in music in one sentence, and there's always a chance there will be an exception to any rule.
Based on your Top 50 and the roulette so far, this is your taste in 5 points.
- the 90s seems to be about your cutoff. From there back, the music mostly feels too dated for you to appreciate it much, UNLESS it's one of those rare albums that, by some miracle of its production and/or songwriting, manages to skirt feeling old, like Dark Side of the Moon (and the reason I sent Fun House is it is in that category, to me). You seem pulled in by younger genres - modern electronic and rap only came about in the late 80s/early 90s, and production-wise, they almost have to sound very modern to avoid being shit. Your dislike of high-pitched singers fits here, that style is fairly dated, used by either remnants of the 70s/80s or modern bands looking back on that. Ditto for 80s production.
- You seem to like music that goes beyond the normal and conventional. Regardless of the genre, it has to be doing something that doesn't sound like the "standard" of that genre. I can't imagine you would like the Foo Fighters or grunge (the radio side, at least) very much, or, as you said, ACDC, or Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers or basically any 50s-60s hard bop/postbop/modal jazz, or much of any 80s thrash. I love it when a band can do something standard incredibly well, I mean, the standard is standard because certain bands did it really well, but you seem to be like, "eh, this bores me".
- You seem fairly adverse to sparse arrangements, and music with either sustained passages of quietness, or where the quiet is the point of the song. The folk people have sent, you're like, "this is good, but this is just a guy and a guitar, there ain't enough going on". You mention not caring for ambient music. I was thinking of sending Tangerine Dream, but then realised that would be a disaster. I'd say a mixture of this and the last point is the reason you didn't dig Kind of Blue, and again hard bop/post-bop/modal jazz in general - regardless of the size of the band, there's only ever one guy soloing with a bass/piano/drums framework. The music has to feel sufficiently busy.
- Like a good chunk of DTF, you are drawn to the genres that are generally darker-hued. So metal obviously (though more the late-90s onwards stuff that becomes hard to safely plonk into a specific metal sub-genre, like Devin Townsend and Ulver, stuff that has little sense of the "standard" to it), but then post-rock, electronic, and particularly trip-hop, the whole somber Steven Wilson angle of prog and rock, etc.
- You've said you don't care what the lyrical content is, but at the same time emphasise the plus factor of "feels", so you obviously care more for music that carries an emotional message through the music alone. Something which is really not that common, I don't think. I'd say in most music, the impact is conveyed through a mix of music and lyrics/themes, and the music is written to support the lyrics and their message and vice versa. In terms of vocals, for you, the melodies matter more than the words. This point would also be why, even though you're into prog, you're not interested in the technicality side of it.
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Damn, you have summed it up very well. :hefdaddy
Just a few details:
-Ambient music is something that bores me on its more minimalistic side, stuff like Hammock or Ulver's Shadows of the Sun are basically ambient, but as you point out, they aren't 'conventional', and that's one of the reasons I love them. And I recall listening to A Kind of Blue, and liked it, but also felt it was one of those albums I'd appreciate more as background music rather than trying to actively listen to it.
-Production: well, I guess its actually more a matter of songwriting, because, while ITCOTKC doesn't sound great (Wilson's remix is superb tho), it has excellent tunes, and sounds very different from other 60s music I have checked. I've also realised that what I dislike about 80s music is not the production, but the songwriting in general, which I find very weak. One exception is Operation: Mindcrime, as that album sounds 80s as fuck, but has excellent musicianship and, honestly, it'd suck with modern production.
-Lyrics: I guess some songs can't really be appreciated without taking the lyrics into account, and songs like Wilson's The Raven or Routine wouldn't touch me so hard if they had a different lyrical content.
-I guess I'm just a very modern person, for when I listen to older music by, say, The Rolling Stones, I cannot relate to it. The sound, the melodies, even their style, doesn't resonate with me. You know why I love The Dark Side of the Moon? Well, one of many reasons is that it doesn't feel like a product of its time, but rather the product of Pink Floyd's heart.
-Dunno if I have said it on the 5-essay, but I'm a sucker for uniqueness, for albums that sound like no other out there, in which I can identity the musician's style.
-My first experience with music was through piano lessons. I barely listened to music (this was before discovering prog and DT :P ), so I learned some classical songs, and lots of videogames tunes. So I guess my preference for melodic music comes that way, as none of the songs I played was meant to be sung. On a side note: my fav piece I learned was Moonlight Sonata, the first movement. I have forgotten how to play half of it, but I used to play it complete. And every time, it moved me, deeply, almost to the point of tearing up. It's a powerful song that is often played too quiet imo.
-I also appreciate when a group can do "standard" music very well, like Alter Bridge, or that ska song you sent me, because despite having heard lots of lame ska on the radio or TV, that track has an excellent songwriting.
So tl;dr: I like modern music by a nice margin, dislike generic stuff, and prefer something with lots of feels or unconventional. Or both. :P
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And I've received 11 submissions so far, now the rest has 24 hs to send before public shaming :tup
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Well he did say somewhere that sometimes when he sees a cool album cover he just puts it on his list to check out :lol still makes little to no sense, but that's apparently the Sacul-thoughtprocess.
I believe albums with awful covers either reflect bad taste, or the artist not caring about that. So how can I know if it cared aboutthe music? IIt's part of the whole experience imo. Not that a nice cover would improve my perception of the music, but it triggers me how some don't even care about it.
Yeah nah, still makes zero sense.... judging a book by its cover and that. Not to mention that the album cover for Stankonia is iconic. Two hip-hop juggernauts standing side by side sans-props, in front of a black american flag with pentagrams on it instead of stars and no logo on it whatsoever? forget about it.
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And I've received 11 submissions so far, now the rest has 24 hs to send before public shaming :tup
Well, you didn't respond to my first PM with a question for a song to send.
If all's okay, I'll send it soon.
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Yeah nah, still makes zero sense.... judging a book by its cover and that. Not to mention that the album cover for Stankonia is iconic. Two hip-hop juggernauts standing side by side sans-props, in front of a black american flag with pentagrams on it instead of stars and no logo on it whatsoever? forget about it.
I never said that album had a bad cover at all, only that I've seen worse :P
Well, you didn't respond to my first PM with a question for a song to send.
If all's okay, I'll send it soon.
Oops, forgot so. Answered.
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Sent!
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Sent some french groovy enviromental metal
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:(
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Sent some french groovy enviromental metal
Well, that's another one of my potential list-songs gone (atleast I'm pretty sure what it is, and I know you like this album aswell). I just hope you sent a good song of it. Come Hell or High Water was like my least favorite Quiet World song :lol
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Well, I'll be damned, sent again! (twice within 8 hours, this must be a record for me!)
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Now two more before
public shaming round 4 officially starts :tup
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Now two more before public shaming round 4 officially starts :tup
One more, you meant.
Just sent.
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One more entry missing. Two hours before public shaming :police:
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Sorry m8, 2 l8.
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Damn, I almost got it in under the wire.
Sent something you won't like.
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Expect tidbits tomorrow, and results this Thursday evening :hat
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I really like the production of this song, and her voice is goddamn sexy.
Damn, what a fantastic singer.
I've gotta say, this chorus is fantastic. The energy and emotion of the vocals… yes.
I wanna marry her voice.
Great guitar sound, but the song doesn't do much for me, really.
This is pretty nice and well written, yup I dig this, specially [female singer]'s vocals.
A pretty interesting song, quite heavy, but well written at the same time.
Although it goes many places, I found all of them uninteresting.
So I was worried about this song. But it actually has some great melodies, and a very melancholic vibe that I dig.
Pretty fun.
Well this is a pretty interesting piece that mixes many styles very well.
So this is how whalecore sounds. Nice.
Oh shit this is epic as fuck.
This is one of the best songs I've listened to in a long, long time.
But from there it just gets better and better. Specially the heavier parts, when the singer reaches the climax, leading to a nice guitar solo.
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Mostly positive?
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like 5 of those could be mine.
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well, i wanna marry her voice is hopefully about Lorde :lol
any of 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, and 14 are possible but some of those are so vague that i'm gonna say it's one of the ones about a female singer's voice
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I found mine pretty easily :rollin
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well, i wanna marry her voice is hopefully about Lorde :lol
any of 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, and 14 are possible but some of those are so vague that i'm gonna say it's one of the ones about a female singer's voice
Amen to that, but I've been wrong every time so far :lol
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I found mine pretty easily :rollin
FLYING WHAAAALES :metal
A lot could be mine, but I'm going to guess it's the one you were worried about but has nice melodies and a melancholicvibe. Ofcourse it could be one regarding the singer, though most of those are about females.
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Mine is either any of those about the female voice or the one about melancholic melodies.
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I'm not even going to bother. :lol
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Plot Twist: expect results tomorrow evening.
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plot twist: i'm going to be on a plane tomorrow evening rip
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Dang that was pretty damn soon.
Gotta say for a roulette with 15 participants your roulette runs fucking smooth. Ofcourse you're doing great but I'm also pretty amazed at how well the 'public shaming if doesn't send on time' tactic works.
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I don't have any chance to win here so I'd say the faster it goes the better.
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Gotta say for a roulette with 15 participants your roulette runs fucking smooth. Ofcourse you're doing great but I'm also pretty amazed at how well the 'public shaming if doesn't send on time' tactic works.
Thanks - I try listening to the songs when I'm brushing my teeth or having lunch/dinner/tea/whenever it's possible. And the public shaming tactic worked well on my previous roulette, and it's pretty fun so had to do it again this time :P
Also, did rough scores, and congrats to whoever gets a +4.5, and sorry for the only 2.5 whoever gets it :lol
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Also, congrats to whoever gets a +4.5
Thanks :)
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While I don't realistically see the song I sent being a 4.5, assuming that
Although it goes many places, I found all of them uninteresting.
this is the 2.5, that doesn't sound like what I sent.
So I would hope I'm somewhere in the middle.
Also, one of the best songs you've heard in a long time is a 4.5? What's a 5 then, Antony Fantano?
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a 4.5+ is more like a 4.75 without actually being a 4.75
that's a pretty high score
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What Parama said - in a out of ten scale, it'd be 9.5. And I prefer to reserve the perfect score for songs that either blow me away completely, or just to my all-time favorite songs.
A 5 is any of the following, Fluffythony Lothariano:
Porcupine Tree - Trains
Anathema - Untouchable & The Lost Child
Devin Townsend - any song on Addicted
Susanne Sundfør - White Foxes (it has grown a fucking lot since my first roulette)
Ulver - EOS
Portishead - Glory Box
Kashiwa Daisuke - Stella and april #19
Brand New - Limousine
David Maxim Micic - Where is Now?
And a few more I'm missing :P
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No Love Song? Geez.
Ever since my roulette I've been starting to wonder which of my songs would be a 10 in my book, and after looking into it, I probably would only have given a single 10/10, instead of the 4 I gave (excluding the 3 in the final round). Arc of Space, legendary song. Also less 9.5/9.0's, but it's easier to say that after the fact. Maybe it would've been easier with scores out of 5.
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What Parama said - in a out of ten scale, it'd be 9.5. And I prefer to reserve the perfect score for songs that either blow me away completely, or just to my all-time favorite songs.
A 5 is any of the following, Fluffythony Lothariano:
Porcupine Tree - Trains
Anathema - Untouchable & The Lost Child
Devin Townsend - any song on Addicted
Susanne Sundfør - White Foxes (it has grown a fucking lot since my first roulette)
Ulver - EOS
Portishead - Glory Box
Kashiwa Daisuke - Stella and april #19
Brand New - Limousine
David Maxim Micic - Where is Now?
And a few more I'm missing :P
You know, it's nice that 2 out of those songs are songs I sent you during your last roulette (White Foxes and Limousine). Now if only you had realized how much you loved them back then, I might have actually won :lol.
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Yeah, but I didn't realise that about White Foxes until a month or so ago - I believe time is a very important factor when it comes to music, for I've found that my fav records are those that I can come back to after a year or more, and they still feel fresh, and I still love them. Maybe some of this roulette's songs become among my favorites as well.
Now that'd be interesting, making a top 50 with songs instead of albums :P
And Love Song is a +4.5, ToN ;)
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hmm what are 10/10 songs for me
Brand New - Limousine
Casualties of Cool - Moon
Coheed and Cambria - The Light and the Glass
Devin Townsend - Funeral & The Death of Music
Dream Theater - everything I put in my top 5 DT songs way back when
Mew - Comforting Sounds
Oceansize - Long Forgotten & The Frame
Pain of Salvation - Idioglossia & Undertow
Porcupine Tree - Trains
This Will Destroy You - Villa Del Refugio
i'm either being too selective or not selective enough, but these are all absolutely fantastic songs that i've never gotten tired of listening to
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I honestly have no idea what a 10/10 is for me. I'm such a Paula that I would probably give it to a bunch of things. :lol Or else it would be just a few artists but like 5-10 songs from some artists. :lol
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Yeah, I think I'm a bit more lenient about what I would consider 10/10, though within that ranking, I guess there would be two tiers. Songs that I can't fault, and songs that I can't fault that hold greater meaning for me.
A Top 50 of songs would be fun. I did keep a fav songs list years ago, dunno if I still have it.
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I finally got my computer back, expect results within 3 hours of this post. In the meantime, I'll update the list and edit the previous results post.
HYPE.
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:mehlin
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Empty promises as usual. This roulette is taking fucking forever dude. ::)
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This round has the highest high of the roulette so far, but also the lowest scores, heh. Have fun.
(mikemangioy) Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage
Well this is heavy as fuck. So this is how whalecore sounds. Nice. You know… I feel this is heavy for heaviness' sake, for I find little interesting music here, only BLAST BEATS, BLAST BEATS, HARSH VOCALS, HEAVY RIFFING, MORE BLAST BEATS. WHAAAAAALEEEE. Meh. 2.5/5
(sneakyblueberry) Kayo Dot - Zlida Caosgi
I added Hubardo to the list because a friend of mine showed me a song that I can't recall its name now, but was pretty atmospheric and chill. So when I told him (he's a huge Toby Driver fan) that somebody sent me this track from this album, he was like "dude, that's the most chaotic tune on the record". Well he was right, this song is just mindfuck, and pure chaos. Although it goes many places, I found all of them uninteresting. Nothing actually bad on this track, but nothing remarkable, or that connects with me, really - this style ain't my cuppa tea. +2.5/5
(home) Karnivool - We Are
Great guitar sound, but the song doesn't do much for me, really - it's just ok. Don't know why exactly, but it felt a bit shallow in terms of songwriting, I guess. 3/5
(senecadawg2) Emilie Autumn - I Swallow
Well this is a pretty interesting piece that mixes many styles very well. My problem is… that it repeats itself too much. Like, there's little flow from the chorus to the rest of the music and vice versa. And the chorus is repeated like 4 times in 6 mins and every time is identical. She has a nice voice, and sings pretty catchy melodies, but I wished there was more focus on the instrumentation, really. Specially on that sweet violin. +3/5
(425) Metallica - One (Live with the SFSO)
Well, I don't really dig the neoclassical vibes at the beginning. I love some neoclassical, but I don't like how its done here. But from there it just gets better and better. Specially the heavier parts, when the singer reaches the climax, leading to just a nice guitar solo - I guess I'm not blown away by solos anymore. With one half of the song that it's ok at best, and other that it pretty good, I can't rate this higher. +3/5
(Evermind) The Gentle Storm - New Horizons
I've always preferred folky Arjen to metal Arjen, and this song reflects the former style. This is pretty nice and well written, I love the acoustic instrumentation here, and Anneke's vocals. As usual, the production is top-notch. This is a nice little ballad, yet I feel I should like it more. Maybe a little bit cheesy? 4/5
(Train of Naught) Slash feat. Miles Kennedy & The Conspirators - Beneath the Savage Sun
This is by far the guitar work I've heard of Slash, pretty dark and heavy. Miles' vocals are excellent here, he does a great job. A pretty interesting song, quite heavy, but well written at the same time. And although I don't really pay much attention to solos nowadays, that's a pretty good one. I guess this case is similar to Alter Bridge to me - although Blackbird has 1 or 2 highlights, and most songs on their own aren't fantastic, as a whole it forms a very consistent album. I hope this is also the case here. 4/5
(Tyrias) Thrice - Red Sky
I normally step way from anything labeled "post-hardcore" and such, for it's a genre I don't really like melodic-wise. So I was worried about this song. But it actually has some great melodies, and a very melancholic vibe that I dig. It's better written than I had expected, and I quite enjoyed it. 4/5
(splent) Snarky Puppy - Something
I remember some of my friends used to play this band on plug.dj sessions, and I like the joy of these musicians playing together, how they understood each other, and the great time they were having. So I added one of their albums, but you sent me something from other record, interesting :P
Well this is pretty nice, and confirms me that these folks make some tasty music together. But the centrepiece of the record is the great singer, who, as you mentioned, starts doing some insane things later in the songs. I always have had the feeling jazz would be something I could not get into, but I quite like this, and will happily check some of Snarky's albums. 4/5
(Bolsters) Lorde - Glory And Gore
I really like the production and sounds of this song, and her voice is goddamn sexy. Pretty interesting, and catchy song. Don't have much to say about this one, other than I enjoyed both Lorde songs a lot. And the other one a bit more. 4/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Shamrain - To Leave
This is a very interesting piece, and reminds me a lot to Opeth's Damnation for its use of acoustic instrumentation and mellotrons. I've gotta say, this chorus is fantastic. The energy and emotion of the vocals… yes. Quite a sad, yet nice piece. A bit short, and kind of ends abruptly tho. +4/5
(Parama) Lorde - Buzzcut Season
This is a very interesting piece of pop. I love the little piano playing in the background, and the subtle beats - excellent production. Althoough at first it sounded strange I wanna marry her voice. +4/5
(Elite) Anna Von Hausswolff - Discovery
Oh shit this is epic as fuck. The beginning sounds like Inception and then creates some surreal soundscapes that I quite dig, specially using a FUCKING CHURCH PIPE ORGAN YES. Then it goes quiet... Just to build up again. This time with her haunting voice, and some epic backing vocals. Damn, this is epic and feels way shorter than it is. 4.5/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Soundgarden - Superunknown
Damn, what a fantastic singer. Like, he actually is the centrepiece of the song, and oh shit he elevates everything a fucking lot. Like, if this had a different guy or just different melodies, it would have just been ok. Instead, I find a vocalist that not only has a great sense of rhythm but a great melodic mind. Although at first I thought the guitar work was just ok, I've grown to appreciate it a lot, even the little solo. And I thought Nirvana was a representation of grunge, heh - this is better than anything on Nevermind. Excellent track. 4.5/5
(FlyingBIZKIT) Glen Hansard - Bird of Sorrow
Holy. Shit. This is one of the best songs I've listened to in a long, long time. The first half is some pretty nice singer/songwriter stuff. But the climax… holy fucking shit, YES. IIII'M NOT LEAAAAAVIIIIIINNG. And HAAAAAAAANGING OOOONNN, give me fucking chills every fucking time, and almost makes me tear up. Knowing about the story behind the lyrics… it's just crushing. I can definitely see why this song gets high scores in virtually every survivor. Sorry seneca, but the biscuit won you this time. +4.5/5
Standings
17 - Fluffy Lothario xxxx
+16.5 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxx
16.5 - Elite xxx
16 - Parama xxxx
+15.5 - Bolsters xxxx
+15.5 - Biskit xxx
15.5 - splent xxx
15.5 - Tyrias xxxx
+15 - home xx
+14.5 - Evermind xxxx
+14.5 - Train of Naught xx
14.5 - senecadawg2 xx
+14 - 425 xxxx
+13 - Sneakyblueberry xxx
12 - mikemangioy xxx
(x= one song sent from the list)
Mr Fluffy is on a roll, and has just barely surpassed Shadow Ninja (who is doing better than expected!?). Former roulette leader home has been on a downward spiral these last two rounds, and lands in the middle. Could he return to the top 5? With just one dud and a consistent output overall, Elite and Parama have a firm spot right there, but shouldn't relax yet. In the meantime, both Bolsters and the Biscuit are having a tough DEATH MATCH DUEL WITH LIGHTSABERS AND UNICORNS to determine who gets in the big finals. Most of the other players have a chance to scaling up if they play well, except mikemangioy, who still hasn't sent me Adrenaline Mob :angry:
You know this is is just my opinion, right? So what did you think of this round? Love it? Hate it? Why? What other songs should I score next? Please leave me your response in PMs (within 48 hs). Saculthony Roulettetano, Round 4... forever. Tran-
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finally :)
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That's impolite.
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-sition! Hey everyone, the list has been updated with the last batch of albums I mentioned before, as well as the banned artists and the ones that are available for resubmission. The "Best of Roulette" playlist has been updated as well.
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Sent a song from the 70's - it's almost as if I haven't been reading this thread at all. :lol
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Again, a good song; but not as good as the others. You're tough to please :lol
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Lorde is awesome in every way. Glory and Gore is awesome, Buzzcut Season is more awesome, all awesome.
Meanwhile 425 takes the risk of sending Sacul Metallica and of course it fails. :lol
Sent some more classic metal.
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Lorde is awesome in every way. Glory and Gore is awesome, Buzzcut Season is more awesome, all awesome.
Yeah I can't complain about those scores, Buzzcut Season is definitely the better song.
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Was looking at the list... I saw a particular album on there and was like :omg:
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I hope your song leaves me like that :smiley:
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I don't get all the praise Bird of Sorrow gets, honestly.
Will send something this evening. Glad this is the last round I have to send from the list.
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I think when the song reaches the climax and Glen is basically yelling to his mother to hang on... it just gets me. Hard.
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sent
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feeling a mid to strong 8 on these results
also I need to figure out how to send links on my phone bcuz spoilers i'm on my phone until potentially Monday :lol
also rip seneca
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(Train of Naught) Slash feat. Miles Kennedy & The Conspirators - Beneath the Savage Sun
This is by far the guitar work I've heard of Slash, pretty dark and heavy. Miles' vocals are excellent here, he does a great job. A pretty interesting song, quite heavy, but well written at the same time. And although I don't really pay much attention to solos nowadays, that's a pretty good one. I guess this case is similar to Alter Bridge to me - although Blackbird has 1 or 2 highlights, and most songs on their own aren't fantastic, as a whole it forms a very consistent album. I hope this is also the case here. 4/5
Nah, you'll absolutely hate the album, this was probably the only song you'd like from it, maybe 1-3 others but that's it, glad you liked it though!
Evermind, how about that 12 minute song? Mine just got blocked, same artist got sent this round.
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Mine is still game. Since almost everyone sends the bands I don't know a single song from I don't think any of my planned bands are going to be blocked.
Not that it matters much though. :lol
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Welp. Mine was Deadman by Karnivool, beautiful song. But in the end I had plans on sending another song from that album so I probably wasn't going to send it anyway.
Also, sent some ballsy drum & metal & bass
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I can live with a 4, although I think I would rate it slightly higher.
I'll think a bit about my last list-song (not that I have many options left) and send. I'll be glad when I can send what I want and give you stuff you've never heard of before :lol.
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REVIEW ILLMATIC SACULTHONY YOU SACK OF SHIT
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(Fluffy Lothario) Soundgarden - Superunknown
Damn, what a fantastic singer. Like, he actually is the centrepiece of the song, and oh shit he elevates everything a fucking lot. Like, if this had a different guy or just different melodies, it would have just been ok. Instead, I find a vocalist that not only has a great sense of rhythm but a great melodic mind. Although at first I thought the guitar work was just ok, I've grown to appreciate it a lot, even the little solo. And I thought Nirvana was a representation of grunge, heh - this is better than anything on Nevermind. Excellent track. 4.5/5
There's a lot more variety in grunge than people give it credit for. All of the four major bands have very different styles. Even Nirvana sound totally different on each of their three albums.
But regardless, I'll continue to stick my neck out and say Superunknown is the peak of the genre, and a better mainstream rock album hasn't been released since. If you like Chris Cornell on that track, there's no reason you shouldn't love the album overall, not to mention Badmotorfinger.
And if you aren't aware, Chris Cornell and Rage Against the Machine minus vocalist Zack de la Rocha were a band for a while called Audioslave. They turned sour quickly, but their first album is really good. (Someone could even send a track from it, I have no intentions to).
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Dang, can't argue with Superunknown getting a high score, great to see it here, and I guess this will be yet another roulette in which Spoonman is (indirectly) denied :millahhhh
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Welp. Mine was Deadman by Karnivool, beautiful song. But in the end I had plans on sending another song from that album so I probably wasn't going to send it anyway.
Also, sent some ballsy drum & metal & bass
I think Sacul would have liked Deadman better than We Are, it certainly has better songwriting (But the live version of We Are just gets me somehow :p) Deadmen or perhaps Alpha Omega .
Now to find three more songs from your list :azn:
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Dang, can't argue with Superunknown getting a high score, great to see it here, and I guess this will be yet another roulette in which Spoonman is (indirectly) denied :millahhhh
I was tossing up between Superunknown and Spoonman... and Mailman, and My Wave, and Head Down, and Limo Wreck...'
Not gonna play it safe. Sent an alt-country song.
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Sent for R5, the song is perhaps a little bit too simple/repetative ( but it fits the song very well I think)
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HELL YEAH :metal
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What's this about 12 minute songs?
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I have no clue :lol
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What's this about 12 minute songs?
Final round was supposedly getting a longer length limit but I guess it's not gonna happen. My perfect 12 minute song is off the table anyway so I don't mind.
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this is not the final round though :lol
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
:vomitard:
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Alright, screw that, I'll send tomorrow evening. Should still be in time before the shaming begins.
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granted i didn't really think about that last pick. I was listening to it yesterday and thought 'this is cool but it goes nowhere' which is pretty much what you ended up writing. so, lol
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I figured out how to send from my phone, so I sent black metal with pretty noticeably bad production that's still awesome in spite of it
1.5/5
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12 submissions in! Those who haven't sent yet have 12 hs to do so before justice :police:
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Really now?
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Oooh, I've found one album in the list I've never noticed until now. Sending soon.
Whatever score I'll get, this song is so amazing I have no regrets at all.
Edit: sent. Might be my best song out of these five rounds.
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Sent just now!
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So the last submission was sent last night after I fell asleep so no public shaming this time :P
Expect results this Wednesday :tup
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Was I the last? If so, you went to bed quite early.
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no public shaming this time :P
That's because I sent right away :lol
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Was I the last? If so, you went to bed quite early.
YOU
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THE
LAAAAST
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An ultimate god of a rotting creation.
Yup, that's me! :tup
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Won't reveal its identity but it wasn't you Elite :lol
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Forgot to say that I sent some djenty dubstep literature italian rap
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So I'm already 4 listens in, and this seems like the weakest round so far, and no song has received a 4.5. Let's see if some of these tunes grow on me. Oh, and there won't be sneakpeeks this time, sorry.
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Damn, I thought my song could earn me 4.5. Oh wait, actually I didn't. :lol
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I already knew for certain this wasn't going to be a round winner, I'm hoping for a solid 3.5-ish score. I just don't have too much confidence in my list-songs, though I would've sent this album either way.
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i meant i sent something you told us specifically not to send so i wasn't expecting much
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Oceansize?
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Least favorite metal subgenre? Maybe black metal, or grindcore.
I figured out how to send from my phone, so I sent black metal with pretty noticeably bad production that's still awesome in spite of it
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Oh, must've read over that part
Stuff like Oceansize for example are exactly the kind of these melodies I do not dig
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I remember getting Oceansize — I think it was Amputee? — in my roulette and I don't even remember anything from that song whatsoever.
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i choose to believe that oceansize blew all your minds and you just refuse to admit it
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i choose to believe that oceansize blew all your minds and you just refuse to admit it
Wasn't it you who posted a rant about how Amputee isn't really a good song and you had twenty better songs from Oceansize to send? :lol
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i choose to believe that oceansize blew all your minds and you just refuse to admit it
Wasn't it you who posted a rant about how Amputee isn't really a good song and you had twenty better songs from Oceansize to send? :lol
Yes, that was him :lol. I still think it's a great song though.
And I remember getting a rather good score for You Wish in Sacul's last roulette, which is also an Oceansize song.
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i mean yeah i probably did
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Effloresce is actually good, but nothing too remarkable imo. Most post-hardcore-related stuff is more miss than hit with me tbh.
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Well then mine I hope gets a 4+ lol
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oceansize has literally nothing to do with post-hardcore, they're post-rock and prog rock :lol
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A friend of mine who is a big fan of them describes the band as "THE progressive post-hardcore group", so there's that :P
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Well your friend is wrong :loser: unless Oceansize is musically in the same vein as Asking Alexandria, Escape the Fate and Alexisonfire, in which case I'm not familiar enough with Oceansize.
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But AA are metalcore :lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mhZv1K92gQ the genre-noob in me says there's no obvious difference between metalcore and hardcore, and if a troll famous youtuber confirms it I believe it to be 100% true.
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your friend has literally no clue what he's talking about, aside from liking oceansize which is a plus
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My friend says:
I'd argue yes - it's definitely post progressive rock but the attitude in the vocals and guitar tones are reminiscent of post hardcore-era Coheed. Not on the same level as At The Drive In though.
He exposes "Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions" as an example of their most post-hardcore side :P
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Yeah, but DT aren't a noise band just because they had a few tracks that had NOMAC buzzes on them.
I mean, I'm no expert on this stuff, and I guess people can call the band whatever they want, but I would never have thought to apply the term "post-hardcore" to Oceansize.
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Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions is a total outsider in the Oceansize discography, though :lol
that's basically their heaviest song
and even then only the first half, the second half is more back to post-rock
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So, what about this roulette?
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Results later today :P
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Who fucking cares about genres. They are just unnecessary labels for music.
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I do care :P
And they're necessary, otherwise you'd have jazz along with dadrock and classical music mixed with modern pop on your local record store - it just makes searching a lot easier.
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I do care :P
And they're necessary, otherwise you'd have jazz along with dadrock and classical music mixed with modern pop on your local record store - it just makes searching a lot easier.
Well apparently that's actually what happens in some Russian record stores.
The last weekend I've been in one looking for the new DT and saw they've got Anathema - A Sort of Homecoming in Metal section.
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I hope you bought that little piece of art ;D
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I hope you bought that little piece of art ;D
I thought of getting it but it was kinda too expensive at the moment. This Friday 12th is a payday though, so I might go for it, especially since I actually wasn't able to get new DT, they said it was out of stock and advised me to come back this weekend.
Anyway, I want the results.
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I do care :P
And they're necessary, otherwise you'd have jazz along with dadrock and classical music mixed with modern pop on your local record store - it just makes searching a lot easier.
Well apparently that's actually what happens in some Russian record stores.
The last weekend I've been in one looking for the new DT and saw they've got Anathema - A Sort of Homecoming in Metal section.
Here in Holland, Deep Purple is 'Heavy Metal', and I found my Machine Head - Burn My Eyes copy over at 'Pop-Rock'
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I do care :P
And they're necessary, otherwise you'd have jazz along with dadrock and classical music mixed with modern pop on your local record store - it just makes searching a lot easier.
Well apparently that's actually what happens in some Russian record stores.
The last weekend I've been in one looking for the new DT and saw they've got Anathema - A Sort of Homecoming in Metal section.
Here in Holland, Deep Purple is 'Heavy Metal', and I found my Machine Head - Burn My Eyes copy over at 'Pop-Rock'
I actually do remember seeing something like that in Concerto in Amsterdam when I was there last year. I think my friend found David Gilmour's On An Island in Pop. :lol
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Yep, Concerto, that's the one :rollin :rollin
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I found a copy of Mike Oldfield's greatest hits under "international rock" but none of his albums on the New Age Section :angry:
Expect results in, say 6-7 hours from this post. I've got shit to do before :P
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6-7 hours? I'm going to sleep now then, and I will already be awake at that time. Working days suck. :lol
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:bolsterssoon:
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I do care :P
And they're necessary, otherwise you'd have jazz along with dadrock and classical music mixed with modern pop on your local record store - it just makes searching a lot easier.
Well apparently that's actually what happens in some Russian record stores.
The last weekend I've been in one looking for the new DT and saw they've got Anathema - A Sort of Homecoming in Metal section.
In some German music stores, or the music section of department stores, hip-hop and soul and R&B all get lumped together under the extremely politically correct genre of Black Music.
Jazz still gets its own section.
Expect results in, say 6-7 hours from this post. I've got shit to do before :P
In 6 or 7 hours, it’ll be Thursday afternoon here. :lol
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So you're living in Japan, I guess :P
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i guessed australia but looking at his profile it's actually new zealand which is basically bootleg australia anyways :P
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From New Zealand, living in Japan.
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6-7 hours is almost up :corn
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"almost" is the new "soon".
EDIT: While I'm finishing writeups, some albums added to the list:
- Agnes Obel - Aventine
- Anna von Hauswolff - The Miraculous (added so I don't forget to check it - band/artist is banned)
- London Grammar - If You Wait
- Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire
- Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame
- Ott - Blumenkraft
- Snarky Puppy - Family Dinner - Volume 1 (added so I don't forget to check it - band/artist is banned)
- Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman
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So I'm awake and already at work even, and it's an hour and a half away from my home. You suck at the deadlines. :lol
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So I'm awake and already at work even, and it's an hour and a half away from my home. You suck at the deadlines. :lol
Oh come on, I've delivered each round in less than a week, and with 15 players, I think that's pretty cool - a couple of hours won't hurt :loser:
So I was right - this round was pretty weak overall. While nothing was as low as in the previous round, nothing surpassed the +4 now. So...
(splent) Fleetwood Mac - You Make Loving Fun
Seems like you're pretty fond of this album... sorry :lol . This music is nice, but not my cuppa tea, really. Good thing I didn't pay attention to lyrics too :P 3/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
I realize the focus of this song is on the textures and the atmosphere, not much on the songwriting. And... I'm not blown away by those sounds nor by Nick's voice. This song is just ok. Nothing remarkable. 3/5
(home) R.E.M. - Nightswimming
This is a nice little ballad. But just that. It feel quite one-dimensional overall, despite the appearance of other lovely instruments here and there. And I don't really like the piano sound, feels like a cheap synth imo - I prefer real pianos by a long shot. Nothing too special here. 3/5
(Train of Naught) Pendulum - Self vs. Self
So this is like Drum & Bass metal or something? It's a pretty interesting combination, this of guitars and heavy electronics - in fact, I've been looking for music like that for quite some time, and besides NIN, my fav album is Antihero by Zardonic (check the song Vigilante and you'll have a blast). Sadly, this song feels pretty generic on its melodies, and one-dimensional on its songwriting. Being honest with you, I prefer the track with Steven Wilson. +3/5
(Tyrias) The National - Fake Empire
This song starts a bit unimpressive, and, honestly, I'm not a fan of this guy's voice. But it slowly grows and grows, getting a bit better each minute. I really like those happy trumpets. And it ends before it could get any better, wtf. +3/5
(senecadawg2) Asia - Wildest Dreams
Seems like these guys were HUGE back in the day, and added them to the list just out of curiosity. Well, I'm not disappointed, but that's because I didn't have any expectations. Better that way, because this track does very little to me. As in most cases, it's not because there are things that I dislike, but rather the lack of remarkable stuff. This is just ok. +3/5
(sneakyblueberry) The Cardigans - Marvel Hill
I've got to admit the beginning of this song is a bit unusual, and weird. Good that female vocals appear soon. The atmosphere of this song is a bit strange, and I don't know if that thing on the left channel is a guitar or a distorted synth. My favorite part is around the third minute, with those nice mellotrons (at least they sound like mellotrons) on the background. While it's a nice tune, it didn't resonate much with me. +3/5
(mikemangioy) CAPAREZZA - ARGENTI VIVE
I'll give you that this song has a pretty creative combination of styles - metal almost djent, electronic music and Italian rap. Yet that alone doesn't save it, because after a few listen the novelty fades away, and I'm with a song that, despite its premise, isn't really original on its melodies, and in that sense, it's kind of generic. Nice track anyways, Mr Spaghetti. +3/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Ryan Adams - Easy Plateau
This sounds like it was written like 40 years ago, but with modern production. It's a pretty relaxing song, and I like the atmosphere. Nothing bad about sounding retro, honestly - sometimes I prefer it that way :lol Overall the instrumentation is pretty good, but I feel the vocal melodies are a bit unmemorable. Overall, a nice song. Nothing bad, but nothing too special imo. 3.5/5
(Bolsters) Meat Loaf - Bat out of Hell
The intro of this, specially the guitars, reminds me heavily of Boston, a band I somehow like quite a bit. Well, their debut at least :lol
Whe I first saw the cover, expected a fucking epic metal tune or something in that vein, until I saw the release date lol. Overall this is a pretty nice, fun song - these guys were having lots of fun while recording it. For some reason I should have like this more tho - maybe it's too long? 3.5/5
(Elite) Thank You Scientist - My Famed Disappearing Act
Parama won't like that you sent this before him :lol A pretty interesting combination of prog metal with trumpets. I quite liked it. Dunno what else to say, honestly. +3.5/5
(425) Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell
Well I certainly see why people think this album is the shit - Dio and Sabbath is definitely a killer combination. And honestly, this track rocks. I kinda wished the guitars were more upfront in the mix, but I know that's more of a modern thing. Still, a pretty badass tune. 4/5
(Evermind) Roger Waters - It's a Miracle (Live)
Good thing that lyrics don't affect my perception of music most of the time, because the lyrics are quite hypocrite here, coming from Roger Water$, but whatever :lol
The instrumentation is really nice and atmospheric, and makes me realize how much he has contributed to the Pink Floyd sound I love. And that may not be Gilmour, but the guitar solo is excellent. My only complain is that it feels a bit too long. 4/5
(FlyingBIZKIT) Kamasi Washington - The Rhythm Changes
My problem with jazz is how meandering it all feels. I know most jazz is basically jamming, but I wished it was more... focused? That it had a clear direction. I normally don't mind songs that go many places (hell, some of my favorites like Where is Now? and most of BTBAM's Colors is like that), but it feels justified to me only if each part is amazing on its own.
So, to this song. As you said, it doesn't feel quite meandering, as you said. It feels like there are some ideas that are played several times throughout the track, and that gives it cohesion and structure. The solos are really nice, and I enjoy the inclusion of female vocals. I'm sure this 3-hour-long album lives up to its name. 4/5
(Parama) Saor - Farewell
Black metal is, along with shoegaze, one of those genres I can't stand on its "purest" form, only when it's combined with other kinds of music. And while this song isn't really blackgaze, it's a pretty interesting tune. I love the atmosphere here, and kinda wished it had better production, so I could listen better to the folk instrumentation. The flute along with the clean vocals is just beautiful. Nice violin breakdown on the middle. Surprising how, despite its length, it doesn't feel like dragging. I enjoyed it more than expected. +4/5
Standings
20.5 - Fluffy Lothario xxxxx
+20 - Elite xxxx
+20 - Parama xxxxx
+19.5 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxxx
+19.5 - Biskit xxxx
+19 - Bolsters xxxx
(19 - Symphony)
+18.5 - Tyrias xxxxx
+18.5 - Evermind xxxxx
18.5 - splent xxxx
+18 - home xxx
+18 - 425 xxxxx
18 - Train of Naught xxx
+17.5 - senecadawg2 xxx
16.5 - Sneakyblueberry xxxx
+15 - mikemangioy xxx
(x= one song sent from the list)
Despite his first dud, Fluffy still keeps the lead, but should keep an eye on Elite, who is pretty close and with a few good rounds, could steal that precious spot. In the meantime, with 3 ties there are, eh, 8 players in the top 5, so any of them can reach finals! To the rest of you... good luck :lol
Some of you have already completed the obligatory 5 list songs, and are now free to send whatever you want, from the list or not. While it isn't banned, of course. And that reminds me...
PLEASE READ THIS!!!
I've decided to change one of the roulette's rules, and that is that any album with a rating of 3.5/5 on the list or on Sputnik, makes the artist/band BANNED. Before it was a minimum of 3/5, but I realize it makes no sense so I'm putting the standard a bit higher now. This makes some groups like My Bloody Valentine or Boards of Canada eligible for submission, but not from the albums that are rated ;)
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(Bolsters) Meat Loaf - Bat out of Hell
For some reason I should have like this more tho
I agree. :laugh:
I'll send something later tonight.
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I hope it's not another roulette championship entry :neverusethis:
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Props to 425 for actually sending Heaven and Hell. I considered that song for almost every round and each time thought "nah, Sacul won't like it". I know nothing.
But hey, I'm fine with getting 4/5 as long as the others keep screwing up.
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I hope it's not another roulette championship entry :neverusethis:
There's no chance of anything else on my list turning up in there.
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sent
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tbh i wasn't planning to send TYS to you anyways so irdc
i scored highest of the round anyways so i can't complain
and i do agree that i wish that song (and album) had better production, it's a little too weak for me to really get into it but the music is so gorgeous that i enjoy it a lot anyways
now to start sending stuff not on ye olde list
edit: I sent. east of the wall. yeah, i'm getting serious now. 1+/5
edit2: i just looked on the list again and since when is The Apologist on the list. ok. good. you get a 6th song from the list.
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Props to 425 for actually sending Heaven and Hell. I considered that song for almost every round and each time thought "nah, Sacul won't like it". I know nothing.
Yeah, I wouldn't have picked that personally.
Not to mention Red Right Hand being second to last.
Despite his first dud, Fluffy still keeps the lead
If 3.5/5 is a dud, I can live with it. :lol
Also,
(Fluffy Lothario) Ryan Adams AND THE CARDINALS - Easy Plateau
When this band formed, Adams wanted to drop his name altogether and for the band to just be The Cardinals. His record label wouldn't let him.
Oh, and lastly, like I said earlier in the thread,
After those first 5 rounds, the deluge.
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Sent some nu- :metal
I doubt I'll make it to the finals so I really really just want to get on with my own songs instead of the list >:(
How much shit have you been adding to the list since the last round? I'm suddenly finding like 3 amazing albums on here that I was going to send anyway :-X could've stopped me from sending Blue Öyster Cult.
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I like the restrictions of this list.
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You're obviously wrong about Matt Berningers voice because it's amazing, but I'm glad to have the list restriction behind me. I probably would have sent something from another album by The National if it weren't for your list.
Now, let's get crazy. At this point I don't even care anymore if I'll win or not, I'll just send something I love and hope you love it as well.
For this one, I'll send you a pretty epic song that's kind of classical music, if you added electronic elements, a huge choir, some voice samples and a guitar. Try not to listen to what the guy is saying if you think esoteric stuff is bullshit, and focus on the music (or just accept the cheesy narration for being kind of fitting with the song :P). Despite me not being esoteric at all, this is my favourite song I discovered last year.
Also, the song is slightly longer than 10 minutes (10:07 to be exact), hope that's not a problem :P.
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I had a song rejected because it crossed the 10-minute mark, so I wouldn't count on it :biggrin:
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Length limit: 10 mins, and up 30 extra seconds, but no more unless specified.
Well, that's what it says in the OP, so I guess it should be fine :P.
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Mine was 10:49
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Well fuck.
At least I'm still in it. I know what artist I am sending. Just need to pick the song.
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Well I tried to send something freaking different this time. :lol
I'll think what to send and will do that :soon:
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I wouldn't have given night swimming a much higher score either tbh, it's (hopefully) the weakest of the list songs.
Sent some sort of progressive glam rock with flamenco guitar.
By the way, Train of Naught you can still send something Karnivool since We Are didn't score very high I think. (If you don't wait too long... :hat )
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Regretting my submissions already.
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Don't remember you sent more than one song :P
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Regretting my submissions already.
This is me every round in this roulette.
By the way, Train of Naught you can still send something Karnivool since We Are didn't score very high I think. (If you don't wait too long... :hat )
I don't know, I have too much shit I want to send to stuff into just 5 free non-list rounds, I'll probably give him a short list after the roulette is over with some shit that didn't make the cutting line.
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I think I'm going to send some unknown and obscure songs in the next few rounds now that I don't have to follow the list. There's only one artist I sent before in the roulettes, and it was only in one roulette and from a different album too.
Sent some piano driven ambient with electronics for R6.
Also I was in that record store today and checked out the price for A Sort of Homecoming and it was around $40. Beautiful work of art or not, I'm not spending that much on Anathema. :P
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A few notes as a bystander:
The Epic is a really special album and was my favorite album of 2015 by quite the margin. If you're not that into Jazz, don't let the 3 hour run time fool you, because I'd say it's a pretty good introduction to Jazz, since you get many of the different styles of Jazz covered on one album. Whereas if you check out someone like Miles Davis (who is also amazing), you might need to dip your toes in more albums to get the full flavor.
Self vs Self is a decent Pendulum tune but not one of their best. I wouldn't say The Fountain with SW is one of their best either, but they're a really great band that you can have a lot of fun with, and I'd put Hold Your Colour in my top50 albums without hesitating. Immersion was really great too.
Nightswimming is a nice little REM tune, but they have done better IMO. What's weird is that I don't really love any of their albums (they're a bit hit or miss), but some of their hits are so good that it compensates for the weaker ones, in other words a greatest hits/best of might be enough. The Great Beyond is IMO their best, but if we're talking ballads, then Daysleeper is IMO superior to Nightswimming.
The National is an amazing band. Took me a while to get into the vocals, mainly because most indie bands have a singer with a more feminine voice, whereas The National goes for that barritone, and not only does it make them unique, but it does grow on you. I'd say if we're talking just indie rock, there's probably not a better band right now, because their last 4 albums have all been amazing. Might take some time, but definitely give them some more chances. Boxer is usually considered the fan favorite album, but personally I hold High Violet the highest. England, Conversation 16 and Bloodbuzz Ohio are 3 of their best songs IMO.
/just some notes in case you decide on checking out more :)
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Complete agreed on the The National comment, i think high violet would be more up your alley, Sacul. It was the album that got me into the National. For me his voice didn't need any getting used to it at all, but I love deep voices in general.
Why didn’t I send something from High Violet then? Well, I needed another list song and that was my best option. Shame on you for not having their best album on your list :P
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Self vs Self is a decent Pendulum tune but not one of their best. I wouldn't say The Fountain with SW is one of their best either, but they're a really great band that you can have a lot of fun with, and I'd put Hold Your Colour in my top50 albums without hesitating. Immersion was really great too.
You make some great points. I agree that Self vs. Self isn't their best (though it's one of my favorites for sure), add to that The Fountain probably is one of my least favorites on the album. I'm just always kinda hesitant when sending an artist I've sent before, I don't want to send the same song over and over, and I guess SvS is a better fit for someone like me who is really into the metal side of Pendulum.
I was deciding between this song, Watercolour, Witchcraft and Crush. Witchcraft I've been sending in a couple of other roulettes (some a succes, some a huge failure), but I decided against sending it yet another time. I'm pretty positive Sacul would enjoy these songs more now.
As for Hold Your Colour, let's agree to disagree :D Tarantula is my party anthem, but that aside, I don't really find the album all that interesting.
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i was sent a song from The National in my roulette too and the only thing I remember about it is the singer's voice, which i liked
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I was deciding between this song, Watercolour, Witchcraft and Crush. Witchcraft I've been sending in a couple of other roulettes (some a succes, some a huge failure), but I decided against sending it yet another time. I'm pretty positive Sacul would enjoy these songs more now.
Hahaha I remember how you sent Witchcraft in Chad's roulette qualifiers with disastrous results. :rollin
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I had no idea what I had gotten myself into :lol never again, I wonder what score I would have gotten if it was a regular round. Honestly the write-up wasn't as bad as I expected it to be though.
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I had no idea what I had gotten myself into :lol never again, I wonder what score I would have gotten if it was a regular round. Honestly the write-up wasn't as bad as I expected it to be though.
Probably 1 because he used the ranking system instead of rating.
But anyway, I guess he was trying to be nice. I always do that when I'm about to eliminate someone.
Speaking of that, your song in my roulette was quite nice. :neverusethis:
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As for Hold Your Colour, let's agree to disagree :D Tarantula is my party anthem, but that aside, I don't really find the album all that interesting.
Funny enough Tarantula is probably my least favorite on the album by far. :P title-track, Still Grey, Another Planet, Girl in the Fire & Plasticworld is where it's at IMO. :P
Overall I think their discography is really great though. Apart from HYC being my favorite, it really is a toss up between Immersion and In Silico after that. They're both great in different ways.
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I had no idea what I had gotten myself into :lol never again, I wonder what score I would have gotten if it was a regular round. Honestly the write-up wasn't as bad as I expected it to be though.
Probably 1 because he used the ranking system instead of rating.
But anyway, I guess he was trying to be nice. I always do that when I'm about to eliminate someone.
Speaking of that, your song in my roulette was quite nice. :neverusethis:
:'(
As for Hold Your Colour, let's agree to disagree :D Tarantula is my party anthem, but that aside, I don't really find the album all that interesting.
Funny enough Tarantula is probably my least favorite on the album by far. :P title-track, Still Grey, Another Planet, Girl in the Fire & Plasticworld is where it's at IMO. :P
Overall I think their discography is really great though. Apart from HYC being my favorite, it really is a toss up between Immersion and In Silico after that. They're both great in different ways.
I really like Girl in the Fire too. But In Silico has more standouts for me, I actually thought of The Tempest/Propane Nightmares/Showdown but because of this system where we have to send 5 songs from his list I decided to go with Immersion.
Sorry for the spam Sacul, it's not often that I can talk about Pendulum on a prog-forum.
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Props to 425 for actually sending Heaven and Hell. I considered that song for almost every round and each time thought "nah, Sacul won't like it". I know nothing.
Yeah, I wouldn't have picked that personally.
Hey, I didn't expect it to do well either! I just needed one more list entry and don't have many more albums that are on the list, so I decided to give it a shot. Just happy it worked out... this is like the one DTF roulette where something like Heaven and Hell is more of a three-pointer than a slam dunk :lol
And now suddenly there's a world of options open to me... I'm no longer limited by the list...
And I have no idea what to send! :lol
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i apparently sent something off the list anyways, i swear it wasn't on the list before but whatevs i like all 5 of the list songs i did send anyways :lol
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I am regretting my submission, but maybe I'll be surprised and Sacul will like it.
You can't :metal to it so I probably failed
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You can't :metal to it so I probably failed
I think it works the other way. The only song you can :metal to got me 3+.
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You can't :metal to it so I probably failed
I think it works the other way. The only song you can :metal to got me 3+.
Well in that case I should get at least a 4.5+ :lol
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i think all 5 of my remaining tracks are :metal tracks
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You can't :metal to it so I probably failed
I think it works the other way. The only song you can :metal to got me 3+.
My most :metal track got a 3+ and my most :chill track got a 3, so it's gotta be a balance or something. I think Sacul has a scoring schedule where it says "if too :metal, deduct points"
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Well Pain of Salvation got 4 even though it gets pretty :metal towards the end.
I really want to see how will I score with my recent song. I've got a feeling it can be 4.5+, but it can be 3 too. I dunno.
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Sent Converge
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I hope you sent Concubine and Fault & Fracture :2metal:
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wow, i totally missed that pain of salvation had already been sent, though i wasn't really planning to send them anyways :lol
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COONNCUBIIIIIINNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE
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sent grunge
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sent some traditional djent
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sent some traditional djent
"Traditional djent" is definitely an oxymoron.
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Well I sent Tuvan throat singing
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Well I sent Tuvan throat singing
5/5 would listen again
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The Epic is a really special album and was my favorite album of 2015 by quite the margin. If you're not that into Jazz, don't let the 3 hour run time fool you, because I'd say it's a pretty good introduction to Jazz, since you get many of the different styles of Jazz covered on one album. Whereas if you check out someone like Miles Davis (who is also amazing), you might need to dip your toes in more albums to get the full flavor.
Good to know! A friend of mine is in total love with the album, so it will make him happy when I check it :smiley:
The National is an amazing band. Took me a while to get into the vocals, mainly because most indie bands have a singer with a more feminine voice, whereas The National goes for that barritone, and not only does it make them unique, but it does grow on you. I'd say if we're talking just indie rock, there's probably not a better band right now, because their last 4 albums have all been amazing. Might take some time, but definitely give them some more chances. Boxer is usually considered the fan favorite album, but personally I hold High Violet the highest. England, Conversation 16 and Bloodbuzz Ohio are 3 of their best songs IMO.
Boxer is on the list, so despite Fake Empire not having scored well, I'm gonna end up checking the album anyways :tup
I think Sacul has a scoring schedule where it says "if too :metal , deduct points"
I love :metal , but really bores me when it gets generic in any shape :P
2 people haven't sent yet... :police:
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the crowd gathers in anticipation for the ritual shaming of the roulette contestants
the tension in the air is so thick, you could cut it with a EVERYONE SURVIVED RRROOOOOOOAAAAAAARRRRRR
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Regarding The National, Seneca sent me "Slow Show" from Boxer in my first roulette. Really, really good song.
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So what is it, 15 minutes until the public shaming begins?
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More like now :P
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Let the stoning begin.
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I've checked out The National about three or four times now, and every time I do, I remember nothing six months later. They never even leave enough impression on me that I can remember what they sounded like for me to be able to tell you how much I liked them or didn't like them. Which kind of speaks for itself, IMO.
And the band name has to have something to do with it too. It's possibly the worst band name ever. I can't think of another band name that's so empty of personality and void of resonance.
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elite jr. and his new prodigy
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425 Elites.
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Sent a song that I love and that Sacul will be like "it's ok. 3/5."
And at this point I don't even mind having my name in the title. It felt weird to NOT have that last round.
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Sacul's Controversial Roulette v425. Vendetta!
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I would be impressed if Sacul managed to run 425 roulettes.
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at the end of days, when humanity is all but extinct, sacul will still be running roulettes on dtf.org
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By that time, all the world's servers will be completely filled by a combination of Sacul's roulette threads and Sacul's spreadsheet.
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And I will have an infinite to-listen list :smiley:
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your to-listen list will contain more albums than were ever written, every album that theoretically could exist, and even the ones that couldn't
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I'll finally be able to listen to Evermind's mixtape, a dope release of Shoecore-mathgaze-dubstep-samplefronted-growly hiphop :hat
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I'll finally be able to listen to Evermind's mixtape, a dope release of Shoecore-mathgaze-dubstep-samplefronted-growly hiphop :hat
Did you memorize it or have you just looked it up?
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Crtl+C is love, Ctrl+V is life.
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i'm going to be disappointed if my song scores anywhere between 2.5 to 4.0+ tbh, i either want sacul to love it or hate it
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Well it's pretty hard to find something I'd hate - even the lowest scores on the roulette are due to feeling underwhelmed by those tracks :P
Now if you sent me The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee or some 15-mins unchanging drone, that would be another story.
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i'll send something off Precambrian :neverusethis:
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Or anything by A Tribe Called Quest :P
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So two things:
1) sneaky hasn't sent yet, nor he has logged in for like two days, hope everything's fine.
2) What if I told you… there's a SECRET PLAYER?!?! He's a friend of mine who wanted to participate on the roulette but was too lazy to create an account here and has been sending me tracks every round via FB. Good news is he isn't aware of the list rule, and has sent me lots of obscure stuff I doubt you've heard of :P Will update the standings so you know how well he's doing, but since he isn't "officially" playing, even if he ends up on the top 5, he won't be eligible for the final EP round so nobody gets cockblocked in any way.
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I'm the friend.
I've submitted twice.
Once publicly and once privately.
I send all my obscure classical music to him.
I'm amazing.
I'm currently in last place.
Sacul is getting djent next round.
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Standings updated (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45491.msg2099315#msg2099315) with Secret Player's standing, on brackets :P
By the way, even is sneaky disappears completely, results will be up on Tuesday. I've already listened to everything at least 3 times, and it sounds like a stronger round than the last one, well done :metal
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but what songs has the secret player sent
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Will reveal them after the roulette ends so if someone ends up sending one of them he won't get cockblocked. Besides, most of his choices except one are very obscure :P
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how would he get blocked if he sent the song first
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I meant "he" as a generic of any of you my dear players, not my friend :-*
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Or anything by A Tribe Called Quest :P
Was listening to them yesterday.
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I really wanted to like Low End Theory since I'm quite into chill music, but couldn't - even gave it another spin some weeks ago and didn't manage to finish it :lol
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I've never really felt compelled to give hip-hop more than a passing glance, but A Tribe Called Quest are one of the groups I put on if I want to see how well the genre is registering with me at the moment. Still lukewarm, at this point.
Of all the rap artists I've encountered though, their stuff is among the "safest" and least provocative and controversial, if that means anything. That's actually why I tend to turn to them though, I feel more pull from "quieter", more pop-oriented rap than gangster stuff.
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What about more energic, experimental hip-hop like clipping. or Death Grips? :P
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I really wanted to like Low End Theory since I'm quite into chill music, but couldn't - even gave it another spin some weeks ago and didn't manage to finish it :lol
Scenario is amazing though.
Have you checked out their other albums? I mean I have to be in the mood for them. It's very chill, relaxing, alt hip hop, but it's also relatively dated by today's standards. Unless you know the context of what they were doing you won't fully appreciate it.
Check out Ms. Jackson by OutKast. And I can say that because I believe they are banned now.
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I haven't bothered to check their other albums, and possibly won't with the amount of great music I still have to check out. Will listen to that track tho :tup
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Ok everybody's in now. Results this Tuesday evening.
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What about more energic, experimental hip-hop like clipping. or Death Grips? :P
Don't like Death Grips, haven't heard clipping.
I'd say if I do get into the genre properly at some point, it'll be through earlier, less full-on stuff like Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul and Run DMC, or the jazz-inflected stuff like Madlib, Sound Providers, Gang Starr, etc.
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sorry man, been busy as shit lately. will be more on to it so i can well and truly solidify my position at the bottom of the heap.
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:tup
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Results in 4-5 hours from this post :P
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That will be when I wake up again. Good stuff :tup
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I await my 2-.
I'm regretting my submission. Please tell me I'm wrong. :lol
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(splent) Earth - Like Gold and Faceted
Transcendental. 5/5
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let go, let go, let go, now it's time we fell
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(splent) Earth - Like Gold and Faceted
Transcendental. 5/5
:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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After a disappointing round, now we're back with a more regular one :P
(Parama) East of the Wall - The Apologist
Well I can see why you love this track and band. It's pretty atmospheric stuff, like a combination of post-rock and sludge metal I guess. Great production too, I'm glad I can hear the bass most of the time. But I don't love it, nor hate it. My main problem is the vocalist, how he sings really aggressive on moments that are rather calm, and imo it doesn't really fit the mood. I don't mind harsh vocals (except maybe shrieks), but I kinda wished he used his clean voice not only in the background as harmonies. And the second thing that doesn't convince me here are the instrumental sections. The drums are doing a great job, but the guitars are just playing some generic post-rock stuff. Nothing remarkable, sorry. 3/5
(Tyrias) Azedia - Requiem for the New World
In general this song has some great, great instrumentation (specially the strings), and nicely placed electronic elements. It's pretty epic overall, even if it drags a bit. But the main element of the song is the narration, and unlike lyrics, I can't ignore it because it has no melodic qualities, just words. And the completely turn me off. Look, if it was onely some cheesy spiritual stuff, ok, whatever. But then it starts talking about pseudoscience crap and I can't stand it, really - I have a strong dislike towards anything related with "cosmic energy" and such, because it's pure bullshit imo. Maybe I should have mentioned I'm an engineering student and as a pragmatic, critical person, stuff like this lacks any sense to me.
Anyways, back to the song. Had the "narration" not been a big part of the song, this would have definitely scored way higher. Sorry, bro, but I can't give it more than this score. 3/5
(Biskit) Pearl Jam - Black
Eh... this is ok. The instrumentation is nothing special, except maybe the guitar at times. The singer is ok, and from time to time he delivers some nice melodies. Overall, I think I should like this one more, but it just lacks personality, and that turns me off. I struggle a bit remembering how it sounded like after it finishes. 3/5
(Train of Naught) System of a Down - Aerials
Some pretty cool riffs here, yup. My problem here is Serj Tankian - while there's nothing wrong with his voice, and has some interesting vocal melodies, I feel he basically adds nothing to the track. And the song, as a whole, really goes nowhere imo. +3/5
(mikemangioy) Periphery - 22 Faces
For some reason I never listened to Periphery, seemingly one of the biggest djent acts. So I was curious about their music. And... it's ok. While the instrumentation is
pretty good (great riffs), even if not that original, the vocals are quite generic. I'm not really interested in br00tal music unless it has something unique or different to offer. Not bad, but, honestly, I think I prefer anything by David Maxim Micic or Destiny Potato. Not remarkable. +3/5
(425) TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN - A Lifetime of Adventure
This is pretty nice, and even a bit cheesy. In a sense it reminds me of Disney movies :lol . Overall it's a good song, and with quite an epic vibe. The biggest dud here is the guitar solo - the fuck with that tone? Too low, and makes a nice solo really unmemorable imo. +3/5
(sneakyblueberry) vulfpeck - back pocket
Chill yet groovy, nice. Maybe with a few more listens it will grow more on me, since I only gave it like 3-4 spins. Don't have much to say, here, I feel I don't have a strong opinion formed on it so for now I'll just score it like this. 3.5/5
(splent) Enya - Lazy Days
Dunno if I have said it before, but I have a weak spot for innocent, beautiful music as long as it's not cheesy. This track has gorgeous vocal harmonies and an excellent chorus. But, like half of the song is a chorus - this song lasts less than 4 mins, and the chorus is repeated 3 times, and is extended through the end when it fades away. Had this tune had more development/different sections, it would have certainly scored higher. Maybe it makes more sense int eh album context? 3.5/5
(Evermind) Amethystium - Autumn Interlude
Well this is a pretty interesting electronic track. You know I'm a sucker for beautiful, atmospheric music, and this is pretty much that. While the vocals are gorgeous, the electronic sounds and the piano feel a bit generic, like done with some cheap presets, and that kinda turns me a bit off, for it feels quite amateur-ish. Still, a pretty nice song. +3.5/5
(Senecadawg2) Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
This reminded me a bit of Neutral Milk Hotel, because of the joyful instrumentation. At first Dylan's voice turned me off, and I've got used to it, but it's still the weakest point of the song for me, apart from the production, but since it was released in 1965, I can't really fault it. Pretty enjoyable track, and I'm looking forwards to getting into this album. 4/5
(Elite) Eisley - Mr. Moon
This is some pretty interesting indie pop I guess? Although it may not sound 100% original, it has some pretty gorgeous moments, and her voice is great. A nice little song I quite liked, but dunno what else to say about it. 4/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Yoko Kanno and the Seatbelts - Bad Dog No Biscuits
This is the kind of, eh, jazz? that I quite like. Reminds me a bit of the Pink Panther theme, but more upbeat. I feel it could easily fit an epic car chase scene or something. And the problem is, while the music here is excellent, I feel there's some context missing. I think I'd love it along with where it's used on Cowboy Bebop. Still, a great track that makes me want to watch the series. 4/5
(Bolsters) The Naked and Famous - We Are Leaving
I've gotta say I love the atmosphere here, a lot - I think it's mainly to the gorgeous synth line on the background. The singer has a nice voice, and there are some interesting vocal harmonies here and there. The drumming and percussion are great. At the middle there's a distorted sound appears and it feels like it will lead to an epic climax or something, but then the song just calms down until it ends, so... huh? :lol The songwriting could be quite better, to be honest. Other than that, it's a song full of wonderful sounds. 4/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Steam Powered Giraffe - Brass Goggles
For some reason I have a weak spot for cabaret-like music, and songs on this vein are definitely my favorite on most kids movies when they appear. This has a very retro appeal, and while it may not be the most creative song songwriting-wise, it's pretty fun and I dig it a lot. +4/5
(home) Queen - Innuendo
I have always enjoyed Queen, but never felt compelled to dive into their albums. But I saw Innuendo was one of their most praised albums, so added it to the list, mostly our of curiosity. I've gotta say, I'm fucking impressed. The melodies and atmosphere at the beginning and through most of the song are haunting. Freddy's voice really add to it. If there's a weak part of this track, is the chorus - oh, it's good, but the rest of the first half of the tune is vastly superior imo. It really surprised me how then a flamenco section appears, and I love it. Then some excellent vocal harmonies. The guitar tone is a bit weird, but it does an excellent work. All in all, I'm surprised. 4.5/5
Standings
24.5 - Fluffy Lothario xxxxx
+24 - Elite xxxxx
24 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxxxx
+23 - Parama xxxxx
+23 - Bolsters xxxx
(23 - Symphony)
+22.5 - Biskit xxxxx
+22.5 - home xxxx
22.5 - Evermind xxxxx
22 - splent xxxx
+21.5 - senecadawg2 xxxx
+21.5 - Tyrias xxxxx
21.5 - 425 xxxxx
+21 - Train of Naught xxxx
20 - Sneakyblueberry xxxx
18.5 - mikemangioy xxxx
With a very consistent output, looks like Fluffy, Elite and our dear Ninja will pretty much stay in the lead, while Bolsters, Parama, the Biscuit and Home could any claim a place in the top 5 as well. Even Evermind and splent could have a chance too, if they play well and the others fuck up a bit. For the rest, I hope you still send me good stuff even if there are small chances for you. With 4 rounds left, things could shake up a bit.
And the magic words are: 48 and public shaming hours.
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Nice!
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i disagree with your opinions :P
i love that there are growls in quiet sections tbh, it just shows that the growls aren't there just to be lolsoheavy, they actually serve a purpose
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i disagree with your opinions :P
i love that there are growls in quiet sections tbh, it just shows that the growls aren't there just to be lolsoheavy, they actually serve a purpose
I agree with your disagreement.
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I'll take it.
Enya's music is very beautiful, but she does repeat choruses a lot. Granted, her formula works, and she overdubs herself literally hundreds of times.
I'll send in a bit.
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Well that's a relief. I'd convinced myself that I was going to get a crappy score and that I should have sent a different song from the album.
I'll send something later.
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Well that's a relief. I'd convinced myself that I was going to get a crappy score and that I should have sent a different song from the album.
Why did you think that? Just curious :P
i disagree with your opinions :P
i love that there are growls in quiet sections tbh, it just shows that the growls aren't there just to be lolsoheavy, they actually serve a purpose
Well the album is on the list so I'll get to it eventually and maybe that style will click with me, but for now, it feels very awkward.
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Well that's a relief. I'd convinced myself that I was going to get a crappy score and that I should have sent a different song from the album.
Why did you think that? Just curious :P
Well I do like the song of course, I'd never send anything in a roulette that I don't...but I like all the songs on this particular album, and We Are Leaving is one of the lower-ranked tracks for me. I chose it because it's a little more unusual, and I therefore thought it might appeal to you more because of that. But after I sent it I wondered if going with one of my least favourite tracks was a good idea or not, and whether the strategy of trying to send things that appeal to you more was a something I was even capable of. :lol
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The huge riff that comes in near the end of Aerials is one of the greatest moments in music, ever. Also, glad you liked my song.
Also sent.
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The OP has been updated with playlists of the roulettes, and the new banned bands/artists have been added to the second post.
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Innuendo is absolute class. I'm not really a fan of Queen but there's no denying how sweet that song is. Proggy af. Reminds me of Fly On A Windscreen by Genesis a lil bit.
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Well, it's not like I don't understand your criticism, I don’t like the content of the narration myself. It just doesn't distract from the amazing music from me. And I mean, it's not that big of a part of the song. He's talking for one fourth of the song at maximum.
I still think you'd like the band though, that's their only song that has this kind of "pseudoscientific" content. Theoretically, could I send another song by them a bit later in the roulette?
Also, what do you think about the topics of the narration in Anathema's Hindsight or Internal Landscapes? I have a song that has some very brief narration in this vein, but it’s also pretty risky musically, so I'm not sure if I'll even send it (not that I have much to lose at this point :lol)
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Black is one of the best songs on this earth.
I had ruled out sending Dylan, figured he'd be a quick way to get a 2/5. Boy was I wrong.
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Yeah, I would not have imagined he would score it that high, but then again I am at the bottom of the shit heap let it rain down on me
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This has got to be the most frustrating roulette ever :lol
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Well fuck. Just when I thought I have a chance at getting into the Top 5. :lol
Will send later today.
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Sent some glitchy folky orchestral stuff.
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This has got to be the most frustrating roulette ever :lol
Pretty much this. I just don't get how you can criticise Aerials for 'going nowhere' yet give Like A Rolling Stone a 4 even tho its like, fucking, A section/B Section right til the end with four verses that have the exact same diction. :justjen
let it rain down on me
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Yep. Eapecially decided not to go with Deer Dance because he likes songs that actually build up into something epic near the end. I though Aerials would do okay in that regard but nope, would you have prefered the song instrumentally? :lol
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I could never get into Bob Dylan. Scorn me all you want, but I think he has made some of the most boring music ever.
Also, how the hell did I miss Innuendo on that list?
This has got to be the most frustrating roulette ever :lol
^ me in every other roulette I play in :lol
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I could never get into Bob Dylan. Scorn me all you want, but I think he has made some of the most boring music ever.
Fair enough. The music is generally pretty samey with Dylan - the beauty of the lyric is where it's at.
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I could never get into Bob Dylan. Scorn me all you want, but I think he has made some of the most boring music ever.
(https://barkpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/most-unimpressed-dog-copy-2.jpg)
Honestly though, he's one of my three favourite artists ever, but I can see why some people don't care for him.
I had been considering sending SOAD in one of the later rounds. I had IEAIAIO or Toxicity in mind. Aerials is a classic though.
Song sent.
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I wanted to send I-E-A-I-A-I-O first but I needed to work on my list-songs and only Toxicity was on the list.
Toxicity could've been good and I prefer most of it over Aerials, though Aerials has that nice buildup and amazing last chorus, I didn't think Toxicity would hold up to it in a roulette like this, but apparently it might just have.
Sent some lettuce.
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Sent another of my 3/5 songs.
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This has got to be the most frustrating roulette ever :lol
Pretty much this. I just don't get how you can criticise Aerials for 'going nowhere' yet give Like A Rolling Stone a 4 even tho its like, fucking, A section/B Section right til the end with four verses that have the exact same diction. :justjen
let it rain down on me
I kinda preferred Like A Rolling Stone for the lovely instrumentation, but honestly, I don't see myself giving it a higher score than that in future relistens. And I don't really connect with Aerials - actually, I mentioned to our mistery player about that song, since he's a big fan of SOAD. He didn't think I'd end up liking it much, but because the band might not be my cup of tea. Seems he was right :P
Black is one of the best songs on this earth.
I had ruled out sending Dylan, figured he'd be a quick way to get a 2/5. Boy was I wrong.
I wished I could like Black more than I do. And the only way to get something lower than a 2.5 here would be to send some harsh noise, or a 15-min drone with Shoegaze influences and 80s production :P
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You mean like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vz-2nVlD1E
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I am glad you liked Innuendo, it's a shame they don't have a lot of other songs in this style. And wow I just noticed a certain composer that's on your list who I was going to send a song from anyway :azn: I'll have to re-listen the album before being able to pick a song though.
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You mean like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vz-2nVlD1E
Now that's unnecessarily loud and distorted - I like me noisy music, but I don't think I could stand a whole album like that. My maximum tolerance of noise is that Angelic Process record, which I'm loving because of how emotional it is.
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I still think you'd like the band though, that's their only song that has this kind of "pseudoscientific" content. Theoretically, could I send another song by them a bit later in the roulette?
Also, what do you think about the topics of the narration in Anathema's Hindsight or Internal Landscapes? I have a song that has some very brief narration in this vein, but it’s also pretty risky musically, so I'm not sure if I'll even send it (not that I have much to lose at this point :lol)
It would be really nice if you answered that question :blush
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I still think you'd like the band though, that's their only song that has this kind of "pseudoscientific" content. Theoretically, could I send another song by them a bit later in the roulette?
Also, what do you think about the topics of the narration in Anathema's Hindsight or Internal Landscapes? I have a song that has some very brief narration in this vein, but it’s also pretty risky musically, so I'm not sure if I'll even send it (not that I have much to lose at this point :lol)
It would be really nice if you answered that question :blush
Oops, sorry :lol
I think the one on Hindsight is pretty cheesy, but I don't mind it. The narration on Internal Landscapes is intriguing, for what the man describes about his near-death experience I find interesting. So both are spiritual in a non-pseudocientific way, so I don't mind them.
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Ok. I still think the narration is more esoteric than pseudo-scientific, but I get where you're coming from. Deciding between a dubstep song and a neo-psychedelia one for next round. But you'll get both anyways.
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I almost sent a different Enya track... Maybe I should have sent my original thought... Although it's an older track and you said you didn't like 80s production.
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Speaking of production, I sent Bob Dylan as a protest knowing full well that the dated texture might put you off.
Didn't expect a 4 :lol
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Well, protests shall not be tolerated under my dictatorship :police:
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I'm going back-and-forth on my does scission of my submission…
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Speaking of production, I sent Bob Dylan as a protest knowing full well that the dated texture might put you off.
Didn't expect a 4 :lol
Is this something we're doing now? Sending songs that Sacul probably won't like as protests? Because I did the same thing last round. Naturally, didn't work out as well for me as it did for you, but it could be fun. Time to send some power metal and classic prog. :P
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i'm just sad because Sacul has given the lowest scorings to two of my favorite entries i've sent in this roulette don't mind me i'm just going to send something really weird next round and get the lowest score of the whole roulette i guess
do you want repetitive & hypnotic or chaotic & loud first, sacul
i actually have 5 songs left i really want to send at this point but only room for four so one of them might get put on an EP if i make it that far, which i will not
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I guess in theory, if you send songs Sacul doesn't like from his list, you're at least thinning the list. Even if they ain't on the list, if that band's name appears on his radar again in the future, he knows he didn't like it the first time.
But I made a list of songs to potentially send in R1, and unless everyone starts sending the exact same shit I have in mind, it should get me to R10 at least.
There are one or two artists on Sacul's list that I didn't even bother thinking about sending because I figured someone else would snap them up quick and they're still not sent by anyone, that I know of.
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I'm sending songs with female vocals from now on. They tend to do good. Or people with a voice like sand and glue :neverusethis:
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do you want repetitive & hypnotic or chaotic & loud first, sacul
Sorry but Burial, Swans, Converge and Destrage are banned :neverusethis:
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i mean, you're pretty close with those last two
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Sent some simple but very beautifull instrumental music. I forgot to say so in the message, but it's from your list (the songs name is the same as the name of the album)
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You sent me a live version, so that is the one I have to listen to, right? :P
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I don't understand your tastes, they are not very consistent, whatever that means.
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You sent me a live version, so that is the one I have to listen to, right? :P
Yes, it's mostly the same as the album version so that's okay right? If you'd rather listen to the album version feel free to do so :p
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I don't understand your tastes, they are not very consistent, whatever that means.
Right on, seeing a lot of classics getting good scores followed by that Pearl Jam - Black score, definitely inconsistent.
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How much time before public shaming?
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I don't understand your tastes, they are not very consistent, whatever that means.
They make sense to me, and Fluffy summed them up pretty well here (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45491.msg2089228#msg2089228).
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I am going back-and-forth with my submission… I don't know if you're going to like it, it's on your list, but based on other things that I've seen, you might like it… I have no idea. This sucks
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Throw a coin :P
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How much time before public shaming?
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About 3 hours. 4 submissions left.
EDIT: Wait splent, you already submitted :lol
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About 3 hours. 4 submissions left.
EDIT: Wait splent, you already submitted :lol
No I know... I am going back and forth with regret...
Oh fuck it whatever you keep the song lmao
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I didn't intend to give it back, so thanks :loser:
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the shame of a nation
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Sorry, I had other things on my mind yesterday. Sent now.
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Everybody is in. Expect results on either Monday or Tuesday.
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I'm gonna copy Evermind and just post the most interesting tidbits :P
I don't really like this track, and I'm feeling you might actually get the lowest score of the roulette.
This is really beautiful, and I fucking love beautiful music.
What the fuck is this? :lol
I really like the atmosphere of this track, pretty chill - I love chill music, and this hits the right spots.
It's not as bad as I expected.
I prefer the parts without harsh vocals by a long shot.
Only one word defines this song: gorgeous. I reeaaaallyy need more music like this in my life.
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I don't really like this track, and I'm feeling you might actually get the lowest score of the roulette.
hell yes this is mine
What the fuck is this? :lol
but maybe this too
I really like the atmosphere of this track, pretty chill - I love chill music, and this hits the right spots.
probably not but maybe
It's not as bad as I expected.
I prefer the parts without harsh vocals by a long shot.
kind of likely but this doesn't feel like it really refers to the track
lowest score booyah
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One of the negative ones could easily be mine. I love the song I sent, but I know it's a big risk.
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Mine is either second, fourth, seventh or none of these.
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This is really beautiful, and I fucking love beautiful music.
Only one word defines this song: gorgeous. I reeaaaallyy need more music like this in my life.
These could aptly describe my song so I have to hope one of them is mine, but I'm not optimistic.
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Yeah, there's no way I can say THAT'S MINE DEFINITELY without fucking up. ALthough I personally think no. 7 ("I really like the atmosphere of this track, pretty chill - I love chill music, and this hits the right spots.") aptly describes how I would describe this particular song myself.
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I prefer the parts without harsh vocals by a long shot.
Gotta be mine.
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Yeah, there's no way I can say THAT'S MINE DEFINITELY without fucking up. ALthough I personally think no. 7 ("I really like the atmosphere of this track, pretty chill - I love chill music, and this hits the right spots.") aptly describes how I would describe this particular song myself.
This quote isn't even #7, so you have already fucked up. :lol
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I meant #4 :lol
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Any of those except for the harsh vocal one could me mine
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the lowest score is probably me, as I'm one from the bottom. I also have no idea what I sent.
oh wait I remember. It's fucking awesome.
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That explains a lot then :lol
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i've ordered one of the artist's albums between the time when i sent sacul a song and now. i actually didn't have one yet tho because the album i wanted most was "impossible to obtain" so i'd just been spinning it on youtube a lot :lol
i also figure it's either a love it or hate it thing thus the low score is super likely
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Well, my song is what the fuck, it's beautiful, atmospheric, not as bad as I personally expected on first listen, it has parts without harsh vocals (meaning the entire song), and it's gorgeous. I wouldn't be too shocked if you gave it the lowest score in the roulette either, so I'm at a loss trying to guess if any of these is mine, hell, maybe they're all mine.
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I can confirm the one about harsh vocals isn't yours :P
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could be mine i guess? i've gotta screw this up somehow, not totally comfortable with actually doing well in a roulette.
prepare yourself for tons of weird shitty songs, sacul.
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Well Three of those snippets say the track is beautifull or atmospheric, any of those could be mine, no clue which one though.
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is that thing someone said about longer entries allowed in round 10 true btw, i might switch out what i have planned if so :neverusethis:
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I'm not sure if giving this lame track a 2 or a 2.5, since it actually has some likeable parts, but overall is pretty bad. Oh wait, did I mention that snippet may apply to two different songs? :P
Yeah, I'll be allowing longer songs, but I have no clue as to which will be the new limit, if 15 or 18 mins.
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whoa spoilers. my song has like literally 2 parts so i know it's not mine now, rip
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Oh wait, did I mention that snippet may apply to two different songs? :P
You didn't. But then again, you probably didn't mention it because it's impossible for two songs to both be the worst of the roulette at the same time.
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Like the cat that is dead and alive, both songs are the worst of the roulette so far until results are unveiled :tup
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schrodinger's bad song
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Well Three of those snippets say the track is beautifull or atmospheric, any of those could be mine, no clue which one though.
There appear to be quite a few of us who those 3 descriptions could apply to though. I count 6 or 7 so far.
Oh, and I was reading about Schrodinger's cat like two days ago. I always thought he was making some airy-fairy philosophical point, but it was actually in the context of physics.
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I'm not sure if giving this lame track a 2 or a 2.5, since it actually has some likeable parts, but overall is pretty bad.
well we already know that you're the king of lame opinions so why don't you slap a 2.0 on your buttcheeks, lame-o.
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:'(
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I don't know if I'll post results in a few hours or tomorrow, so in the meantime, some albums I've added to the list:
- Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
- Blueneck - King Nine
- Deftones - White Pony
- Deftones - Koi no yokan
- Depeche Mode - Violator
- Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith and Devotion
- GoGo Penguin - V2.0
- Gorillaz - Demon Days
- Matryoshka - Zatracenie
- Mr Bungle - California
- The Naked and Famous - Rolling Waves (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- The Strokes - Is this It
- Tool - 10.000 Days
- Tool - Aenima
- Yoko Kanno and the Seatbelts - Cowboy Bebop (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
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well i guess i'm sending you a 7th album list song then bcuz i made this post
there's a song by an artist that i've never been a huge fan of, but this one song i love with all my heart
and it's a kind of mainstream artist but not really a mainstream song
and i haven't ever sent it in any roulettes but maybe i should
and i'm not posting it here because i want it to be a surprise but i am listening to it right now yes
yeah, ok
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- Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
- Deftones - Koi no yokan
Guess I have to make a bigger list then.
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i kind of hope i get into the finals now because i definitely have enough stuff to send an EP's worth
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Just try not to fuck up in the next rounds :tup
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i promise not to get another 2 in the future
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I'm probably gonna do awful this round, but then again you never know. I'm just glad I don't have to choose anything from the list again LOL
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:soon:
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soonman, the 9th robot master
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Another pretty polarizing round - it has some of the best songs of the roulette, but also some of the worst.
(sneakyblueberry) SikTh - How May I Help You?
What the fuck is this? :lol
Eehh... this song is fucked up. I don't really like the vocalist, he ends up annoying me. I've got some friends who love this, but honestly, this ain't my cuppa tea. From time to time they manage to create some good sections but they are pretty short and only here and there, while the rest either bores or annoys me. I don't really like this track, and I'm feeling you might actually get the lowest score of the roulette. Sorry. +2/5
(Biskit) Intronaut - The Unlikely Event of a Water Landing
I like the atmosferic bits of the second half, but overall this is just bland. Lame growls, dissonant guitar work without taste... no. Dat bass tho. But this style really isn't my thing, like at all. And this track just drags, really. Maybe it makes more sense in the album context? Dunno, but I don't feel any compelled to check this band, sorry. 2.5/5
(Parama) Oranssi Pazuzu - Dub Kuolleen Porton Muistolle
The atmosphere here reminds me a bit of Sigh. I prefer the parts without harsh vocals by a long shot, for I'm not a fan of them doing calm moments. So... this track is ok overall. Is it bad my fav part of it is the bass? :lol
But really, despite being quite atmospheric... it doesn't do much for me. And I feel it drags. Meh. +2.5/5
(425) Don Henley - New York Minute
It's not as bad as I expected, because I expected it to fucking suck, and it just underwhelms me. While this track is from the 80s, it doesn't suffer that much of the lame production it was commonplace back in the day, and it confirms my theory that what I dislike most of this decade is the songwriting in general - I just don't connect with most of it at all. +2.5/5
(splent) The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
This sounds nice, but as with most 60s music, I don't really connect with it musically - I mean, I appreciate the creativity of these guys, making this kind of music with those unusual instruments, but just that. I guess I prefer modern pop :lol 3/5
(mikemangioy) Anthrax - Among the Living
I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that I'm not kvlt enough to appreciate this kind of music. Seems like a fairly typical 80s thrash song, and it does nothing to me. I added one of their later albums because I sampled a bit and liked how it sounded closer to nu/funk metal. This is just ok mate. 3/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) The Plot In You - Time Changes Everything
Although this has a bit of a particular style, and I definitely like the atmosphere, feels a bit generic on the vocal melodies tho, and that turns me off. Not a bad track, but far from a brilliant one. +3/5
(Evermind) October Falls - Marras I
This has some nice guitar melodies. Interesting inclusion of a flute. Reminds me of Ulver's second album, which is fully acoustic (you'd like it), and this certainly has those dark folk vibes. And... it's ok. One of those cases in which there's nothing wrong with the song, but nothing stands out. I'm not really a fan of "dry" atmospheres, for I prefer layered ones or with lots of reverb and delay. And this is the former. Nice song, but only just that. +3/5
(senecadawg2) A Winged Victory for the Sullen - Steep hills of vicodin tears
This is really beautiful, and I fucking love beautiful music. But I feel it's maybe too minimalist for my taste. The strings sound reminiscing of Stars of the Lid, but I prefer this song to most of them tbh. Good thing is that it's not too long, and reaches a splendid climax. Not the most creative song I've heard, but possibly one of the best on this very vein and style, which isn't saying much I guess. 3.5/5
(Tyrias) Arkasia - Angel
I'm not really into this genre because of how generic and passionless it sounds, but this is nice. Definitely the most passionate brostep I've heard, but that's not saying much :lol
Knowing he dedicated this song to her mother makes much sense, and gives this a sort of emotional punch. I'm not bothered by the narration btw. But what prevents me from enjoying this one more is the use of generic sounds - I'll never understand people who seemingly don't mind sounding like everybody else in their genre. Well, tastes I guess. You know from my championship entries and some of this roulette's top choices that I definitely love music with lots of feels, so that kinda saves this tune from oblivion. 3.5/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Bic Runga - Ruby Nights
I really like the atmosphere of this track, pretty chill - I love chill music, and this hits the right spots. Great voice, and good melodies. Although it's quite a simple piece, I quite like each sound here. Some people would need to be in the mood for this kind of stuff, and you're lucky I'm in that mood most of the time. Yup, I'm adding this album to the list. +4/5
(Bolsters) Mree - On Echo
This is something pretty unusual, and I love unusual stuff. Done right of course. And your entry is a good example of it. As you said, there's some orchestral stuff along with glitch and folk elements, but in a subtle way. I really like the atmosphere of this track and the gorgeous female vocals. Doesn't blow my mind, but it's pretty nice overall. +4/5
(Train of Naught) Lechuga - Entre 2 Mundos
I think this is easily your best song so far, why didn't you send this before? Pretty groovy and interesting track, I love the female vocals here, even if she's not singing lyrics, she more than delivers. Fantastic instrumentation, great riffs. Reminds me a little bit of LTE for the great flow and chemistry between these musicians. Also, dat sax. 4.5/5
(Elite) Euzen - The Stage
I don't know what genre is this or what the hell is going on, but I really like it. Those synths at the beginning are just epic and I love their sound. Simple instrumentation overall, but I really enjoy this. And she has a nice voice AND it's readhead. Yup I love this. 4.5/5
(home) Ludovico Einaudi - Divenire Live at Royal Albert Hall London
Only one word defines this song: gorgeous. I've gotta admit that since falling in love with Daisuke and Nils Frahm (I highly recommend you his album Spaces), I haven't explored much modern classical except Music for 18 Musicians which I find really dull, but Divenire makes me realize I reeaaaallyy need more music like this in my life. Beautiful track with tons of passion - I just can't get enough of good piano-based music.
Btw, I actually expected seneca to end up sending me this song :lol
My only complaint would be that this track is a little bit too long, like 30 secs or so. Other than that, it's fantastic. My favorite of the round, and among the best of the roulette. You're back on fire, mate. 4.5/5
Standings
+28.5 - Fluffy Lothario xxxxx
+28.5 - Elite xxxxx
27.5 - Bolsters xxxx
+27 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxxxx
+27 - home xxxxx
(26.5 - Symphony)
26 - Parama xxxxx
+25.5 - Evermind xxxxx
+25.5 - Train of Naught xxxx
+25 - Biskit xxxxx
+25 - senecadawg2 xxxxx
+25 - Tyrias xxxxx
25 - splent xxxxx
+24 - 425 xxxxx
+22 - Sneakyblueberry xxxxx
21.5 - mikemangioy xxxx
While the top 5 on its core is likely to keep being Fluffy-Elite-Bolsters, now the 4th and 5th spot aren't assured despite home's triumphant return, for Evermind and ToN could sneak if they send good stuff and Parama keeps fucking up. Sadly, the Biskit dropped quite low, and along with the rest, he doesn't have many chances to reach the finals now unless some miracles happen.
Send within 48 hs of this post's publication :smiley:
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heck yeah
also i was gonna send you intronaut at some point, nice job taking that fall for me, BIZKIT :tup
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Sent world music.
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i sent...
*checks rym*
...they're trip hop apparently? wat
it's more like alt rock tbh
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I'd argue they're closer to hip-hop from the little I've listened of them :P
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this song is def not hip-hop
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I think Arkasia actually sounds pretty different from other dubstep artists I've heard, which us why I like him. :lol Opinions, I guess.
A smalm story for my next submission: I once saw this band live in a 500-capacity venue, and there were not even a hundred people there (probably closer to 50). It felt really weird at first, but combined with their music it made for one of the creepiest and most memorable concert experiences I've ever had.
I really like this song I'm sending, but given my previous track record, I'll probably get a 3 or so.
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Charging rapidly toward last place... :lol
Noted about the 80s. Figured I'm not winning anyway, so it was worth a try, since I really like that song. Sent something from 2015. ;D
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(sneakyblueberry) SikTh - How May I Help You?
What the fuck is this? :lol
Eehh... this song is fucked up. I don't really like the vocalist, he ends up annoying me. I've got some friends who love this, but honestly, this ain't my cuppa tea. From time to time they manage to create some good sections but they are pretty short and only here and there, while the rest either bores or annoys me. I don't really like this track, and I'm feeling you might actually get the lowest score of the roulette. Sorry. +2/5
don't be sorry - i'm sorry that I haven't sent anything that's made your willy tingle. there are two vocalists.
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the only sikth i really cared for was the one song Shadow Ninja sent me and that one was a cover to begin with, too, so :lol
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ah well. it was on the list, and I quite dig the album so I thought fuck it.
sikTh are great. criminally overlooked pioneers of tech metal. before it all went djenty and ball-sucky.
dont worry, i'll keep sending the most horrible shit, hopefully get a few negative scores.
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Well, you know what? Fuck this. You're getting metal from now on.
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that's the spirit!!
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LECHUGAAA :metal
I found out about them not too long ago so that's why I didn't send it before. I'll send shortly, now that I'm actually still in the race I don't know if I'll still send Deftones :lol
EDIT: sent
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Damn, first equal.
Sent some gorgeous trip-hop to try to get ahead again, or not lose the lead altogether, for that matter. (I had intended to send this track anyway, but was gonna hold it til the last round).
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I'm catching up with you! :biggrin:
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Between Home and Bizkit I've dropped a couple points by not submitting songs I would otherwise have submitted. And if I'd sent them in either of those rounds, as I was requested, I'd be half a single + off the top line.
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Sent
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heck yeah
also i was gonna send you intronaut at some point, nice job taking that fall for me, BIZKIT :tup
Anytime. :lol
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I've got 9 submissions so far, keep them coming :tup
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sent a song with growls during quiet parts
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I sent something earlier today
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I haven't sent yet but I will do that in a few hours.
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(home) Ludovico Einaudi - Divenire Live at Royal Albert Hall London
Only one word defines this song: gorgeous. I've gotta admit that since falling in love with Daisuke and Nils Frahm (I highly recommend you his album Spaces), I haven't explored much modern classical except Music for 18 Musicians which I find really dull, but Divenire makes me realize I reeaaaallyy need more music like this in my life. Beautiful track with tons of passion - I just can't get enough of good piano-based music.
Btw, I actually expected seneca to end up sending me this song :lol
My only complaint would be that this track is a little bit too long, like 30 secs or so. Other than that, it's fantastic. My favorite of the round, and among the best of the roulette. You're back on fire, mate. 4.5/5
Glad you liked it! I should have sent the album version that one is actually a bit shorter (2 minutes I think). I know another componist with a similiar style you might enjoy, I'll probably sent something from him in the following round. I'll check out Nils Fram!
Sent a song from my favourite post-rock band, I hope it doesn't bore you :lol
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Sent some noir.
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Sent groovy rock.
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I... actually have all the entries, so there will not be public shaming this time :o
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Expect results next Monday.
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all the hype is gonna be dead by then tbh :tup
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I'll probably post tidbits on Friday-Saturday to keep this thread alive.
Btw, already gave everything one listen, and there already like 2 or 3 clear standouts. Let's see if they keep that way, and how the other songs grow on me :P
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aww yeah, one of the other songs that will hopefully growe on you
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Exciting times :corn
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Sacul hated my song so much that he's been stuck listening to it on repeat for two days straight
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Nope, he still hasn't come to terms with the fact I sent him a song called "Russian Roulette" in his roulette even though he's Latin American (at least I think so :lol)
Or he's currently moving to Russia.
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I hope not.
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Wouldn't it be nice if someone sent it in your roulette, Ev? :P
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where are the tidbits
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In my mind.
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Wouldn't it be nice if someone sent it in your roulette, Ev? :P
I'd never send this song to Evermind :lol
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EEEENEEEEERGIIIIAAAAA! :metal
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where are the tidbits
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I've been pretty busy so there may or not be tidbits this time.
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where are the titties
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Oh come on :lol
He's had a good lace so far, I see no problems with him taking a little longer for this round.
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hey man i just wanted some titties
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Oh, I support that! :tup
Didn't read it well enough :lol
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tfw no titties :'(
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Results tonight - I haven't added scores yet but looks like the top 5 will be shaken up a little, for both someone sent a dud that may cost him a place in the finals, and someone sent one of the round's best tracks and may sneak into the top 5. So yeah, get hyped.
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i've gotta screw this up somehow, not totally comfortable with actually doing well in a roulette.
prepare yourself for tons of weird shitty songs, sacul.
Maybe it worked?
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someone sent a dud that may cost him a place in the finals
Probably me.
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THE HYPE IS UNCONTAINAB-
I’m going to bed.
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I always fail roulettes in either the first or last rounds, so it could be me as well.
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Even if by some miraculous turn of events it's me who sent a great song, you guys have nothing to worry about. I'll fuck up in the next two rounds anyway. :lol
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Waiting for my 5+ :lol
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Out of ten, amirite?
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Out of ten, amirite?
Yeah probably :sadpanda:
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Your title made me think results were up
:angry:
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You could say it was a nice bait.
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You could say it was a nice bait.
No it is an extremely mean bait! :-\
:lol
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Bastard
:neverusethis:
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i don't want results i just want tidbits
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i don't want results i just want titties
ooh yeah
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for some reason I have trouble seeing you as older than me though I'm pretty sure you are
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i don't want results i just want tidbits
This song is a masterpiece.
Good song.
Are you on crack?
This one has been a big grower.
BEST SONG EVARRRR
This song is okay, I guess.
If you send me another song this bad, I will cut your face off and throw it in the ocean. :)
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Now the challenge is for Sacul to include those tidbits in his writeups.
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i'll send the ocean next round ok
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Challenge accepted.
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Are you on crack?
This one has been a big grower.
I feel like these ones are the most likely for my song :lol.
(Though I'm not sure what effect crack has on one's perception, my song might be better on drugs. I've never tried it though, so who am I to make that judgement?)
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I think there haven't been any growers this round - most songs I liked on the first listens are still the ones I prefer the most.
Results in ~6-7 hours from this post.
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for some reason I have trouble seeing you as older than me though I'm pretty sure you are
maybe I am, maybe I am not.
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6-7 hours? I'm unhyped now
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for some reason I have trouble seeing you as older than me though I'm pretty sure you are
maybe I am, maybe I am not.
I know you are, you said you are, so what am I?
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maybe you are, though what are you when I am instead of you thinking what you maybe are knowing that what I am you are?
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Whatever you say I am, that's what I'm not.
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I am
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That's reply #800, wow. Think for a sec that out of all those replies, only 7 contain results so far :corn
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so you're saying you're just slow :corn
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No, we don't shitpost enough. This thread needs more memes. Or cats.
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Poop.
There is my shit post
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(https://www.superiorplatform.com/pictures-of/faces/angry/10a-angry_tiger.jpg)
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I sympathize
With a Sacul
And a Sacul
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(https://i65.tinypic.com/140amue.jpg)
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why don't you just have a sacul on my nippul
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b2/10/db/b210db7e810844fbc3b85140c3a78406.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/b7X4w.gif)
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Another good round! Sorry for the typos - haven't spellchecked everything, but I hope it's understandable. And yes, Fluffy, those tidbits have been included here and there - try to find them ;)
(Tyrias) The Legendary Pink Dots - Russian Roulette
Just... no. Sorry, but I don't really dig this track - the vocalist is lame and it's highly repetitive without any noticeable evolution. The atmosphere is pretty gud tho. But... that's it. 2.5/5
(splent) M83 - Midnight City
BEST SONG EVARRRR...
Nah just kidding. I can't really stand that main sound - it's like a distorted sample of a yelling monkey, and it really annoys me when it appears. And the sounds in general aren't really original imo. The only thing that saves it from total oblivion is the nice sax solo near the end, but just a bit. If you send me another song this bad, I will cut your face off and throw it in the ocean :) 2.5/5
(425) Voices from the Fuselage - Meteorites
Yup, as you predicted: meh, generic. I'll only give it that it has a nice atmosphere, but that's it. 3/5
(Mikemangioy) Foo Fighters - Rope
This song has am interesting TMV vibe to it, which made it stand out a bit before falling into a generic chorus, and a nice instrumental after the middle. It's ok, but this doesn't really prompt me to check the band further other than giving this album a listen because it's on the list - feels like a poor man's Flying Colors, if that makes any sense lel. 3/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Sleep Party People - Change In Time
This song is okay, I guess. Well... this has a pretty nice atmosphere. But... I kinda don't dig this melodic-wise, nor the sounds used, really. don't have much to say other that while it's enjoyable, it's nothing too special for me. 3/5
(home) God Is an Astronaut - Fire Flies And Empty Skies
U I wish I could say that this one has been a big grower, but sadly it isn't. From the go it underwhelmed, and with repeated listen it has only gotten a bit better. Now I remember why I never came back to this album - it just lacks memorable melodies. Not bad, but doesn't stand out among all the generic post-rock bands out there imo. The rocker bit near the end was nice tho. +3/5
(sneakyblueberry) Kaki King - Can Anyone Who Has Heard This Music Really Be a Bad Person?
I recall this angry bitch (no seriously, she looks mad on every pic I see of her) from an excellent TED show in which she did some pretty unusual stuff with her guitar, and even added a couple of her albums to the list. While the song she played, Pink Noise, was pure wank, this is completely different. A pretty nice tune that, sadly, works better as background music imo. Still quite enjoyable. 3.5/5
(senecadawg2) Sylvan - Not Far from the Sky
Well this is a pretty epic into to what I guess must be an epic prog metal album. Short writeup this time: I quite dig this one for it's cinematic sound. It ends too abrupt, like what seems the intro to the next track? Anyways, great entry. 4/5
(Evermind) Amadeus Awad - Noir
Well this is a pretty unusual track. It's kind of dark and folky but with subtle electronics? I have no clue what this is, but I dig it. Dunno if it's noir tho. 4/5
(Parama) Gorillaz - El Mañana
I remember quite liking the previous song, Feel Good Inc, and jammed this album several times, but never with much attention so I kinda forgot about it until a few days ago. And this track makes me want to revisit it soon. RYM lists it as trip-hop? I can only hear that on the background guitars a la Portishead, and the drumming, but that's all. So, a pretty good, enjoyable track. Feels a bit busy at times, and the production could be better tho. 4/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Rob Dougan - One and the Same (instrumental)
Good song. This album was already on my sight some weeks ago, and was considering adding it to the list, then you send up sending something from it! You were almost right about the use of strings on trip-hop: it's excellent here. But I believe Portishead's Roads is perfect in that sense, because it's not just something on the background - the other day, relistening to Dummy and that particular track, I couldn't stop thinking: "This song is a masterpiece." Out of curiosity I checked the original version of your entry, and his vocals aren't the nicest I've heard honestly, so good choice here. +4/5
(Train of Naught) Arctic Monkeys - From the Ritz to the Rubble
Yup, another album I recall quite digging one song, but being a bit underwhelmed with the record as a whole. So yeah, added it to the list to revisit it. And It's quite worth it, actually. Pretty groovy and badass track, yeah I dig this. +4/5
(Elite) Theodor Bastard - Umbraya Erze
I have no clue what kind of music this is, for it reminds me of Dead Can Dance, but with very different influences yet a similar approach. I dunno why, but I have a bit of a crush with this kind of music for whatever reason. Had this been a bit better written it would have been a greater hit, but I quite dig it and will surely add this album to my list. +4/5
(Bolsters) Afro Celt Sound System - Deep Channel
One of my favorites of the round. A nice, interesting electronic beginning, that slowly introduces the world instrumentation. The it just gets awesome. I love how pure joyful it sounds - these musicians were having tons of fun. I love the inclusion of Celt/Irish parts. Overall, an excellent song that appeals to my taste for unconventional stuff. 4.5/5
(Biskit) Trioscapes - Blast Off
This track is just tons of fun, and while each member is crazy, the saxophonist is insane - the thing he does at 1:45 is more astonishing than DT's last album. I'm sure one of the bandmembers must have asked him: "Are you on crack?" or something similar. This vibe reminds a without-steroids LTE, and they both seemingly are pretty much Jazz Fusion, which I think might be my gateway into jazz. As with LTE, I could just focus on what one of these musicians are doing, and be amazed by the variety of their playing. How do you do to send one of your best tracks after your worst song? 4.5/5
Standings
33 - Fluffy Lothario xxxxx
33 - Elite xxxxx
32 - Bolsters xxxx
30.5 - home xxxxx
+30 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxxxx
30 - Parama xxxxx
30 - Train of Naught xxxxx
(30 - Symphony)
+29.5 - Evermind xxxxx
+29.5 - Biskit xxxxx
+29 - senecadawg2 xxxxx
+27.5 - Tyrias xxxxx
27.5 - splent xxxxx
+27 - 425 xxxxx
+25.5 - Sneakyblueberry xxxxx
24.5 - mikemangioy xxxxx
Elite and Fluffy are still tied for first place! I've gotta say, they both have been very consistent, and along with Bolsters, deserve their spot in the top 5. But there are 6 people with legit chances of getting into the finals, and all they need is someone to screw up - there's less than a full point between home and the bizkit, and with two rounds left, who know what might happen!
I'll update the banned list and stuff this Thursday after exams - but you still have 48 hours to send. Good luck!.. some will need it.
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ok
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Dammit, one day I'm gonna find someone who loves Sleep Party People as much as I do.
Also sent.
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See I knew it. I should have sent the other song I was going to send.
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Dat one line writeup doe. :lol
Inching towards the bottom... About to throw another random song at Sacul I guess.
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I really need to have more confidence after I send things.
By the way, the link I sent you is a compilation, which I did because the compilation is remastered and significantly more dynamic. But the actual album that song is from is called Seed, if you'd rather check that out.
I'll send my next song :soon:
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Nice. Only .25 points removed from the top 5.
Gotta say I wasn't all that confident in my pick, you liking this more than Beneath the Savage Sun, did not expect that. Don't worry about the album, this song isn't even the best song on it :tup lots of good and fun stuff. Sending now!
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umbraya erzeeeeeee
I don't even know what it means, glad you liked it though :) yeah, the whole album is as nice, could indeed be a nice addition to your list
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Sent some electro-swing. Also, If you continue to prove horrible taste in music I might just send my favourite Justin Bieber song for Round 10.
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i sent mathcore
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I was going to send some dj0nt but I changed my mind at the last minute. Sent some R&B synthpop sort of stuff instead.
Also, do you have any plans to add more albums to the list before round 10, or are you done?
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I have a short list of albums I could add, but I'm afraid half of the records are either obscure or not in the genres you normally listen to, so I'd recommend you giving the list a deep look - you may find a few classics that haven't been sent yet :P
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You know, I don't exactly mean to criticize your way of running this, and I get that you have 15 participants too, and it's been eight rounds... but getting only a few short sentences along the lines "hey, it's dark and folky and I dig it. 4/5" is about as non-satisfying as it gets. :lol
I'm rather glad with my score, but I don't really make the Finals because I won't win there anyway, so this time it's definitely going to be a metal track.
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You know, I don't exactly mean to criticize your way of running this, and I get that you have 15 participants too, and it's been eight rounds... but getting only a few short sentences along the lines "hey, it's dark and folky and I dig it. 4/5" is about as non-satisfying as it gets. :lol
Sorry, I wrote these at the end of the day, and only slept 3 hours, so that's the best I could :smiley:
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You know, I don't exactly mean to criticize your way of running this, and I get that you have 15 participants too, and it's been eight rounds... but getting only a few short sentences along the lines "hey, it's dark and folky and I dig it. 4/5" is about as non-satisfying as it gets. :lol
Hey, at least you didn't get "Yup, generic, nice atmosphere I guess, 3/5" :lol
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Pretty groovy and badass track, I dig this. +4/5
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Sorry, I wrote these at the end of the day, and only slept 3 hours, so that's the best I could :'(
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I liked it. (+1.5/5)
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Sent a song.
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sent a recording of an ibex
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For my own curiosity, here are the highest scorers in each round so far
R1: Bolsters
R2: Elite, home, Parama
R3: Tyrias
R4: Bizkit
R5: Parama
R6: home
R7: Elite, home, Naught
R8: Bizkit, Bolsters
home has had 3, Parama 2, Bolsters 2, Bizkit 2, Elite 2.
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and yet you're in the lead :lol
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i sent a 12 hour loop of a poop coming out of a butthole
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Nice. I'll send another shit toon.
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Sent. Read the PM to let me know if I should send another song or not.
Also, I decided I'll save you some time. Just copy and paste this in your next results post:
Well, just as I thought, this is just outright cheesy. A whiny vocalist and electric guitars? This is so generic. Besides, who even writes this kind of lyrics? Really meh overall. 2.5/5
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I'm pondering whether I should send something with growls and polyrhythms (completely different from stuff I've sent earlier in this roulette, think in the style of motW) or something else entirely.
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It probably won't be as intense as the song I sent so I say go for it
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Well, I hope my scores for Bath on the list, and Sikth and Kayo Dot on the roulette tell you something :lol
But it'd be pretty difficult for you to drop from the top 5 so you could take a risk now :P
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but Bath is amazing and you should like it more.
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I'm definitely going to revisit it in a few months, despite not being a style I'm in love with :P
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Screw this, you're getting this song I thought of. Better to stick with your first choices, or so I hope at least. It's better than sikTh anyway :lol
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I need to get bath tho I didn't love leaving your body map, it was okay tho
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Bath is better than Leaving Your Body Map, I think.
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but Bath is amazing and you should like it more.
fucking a
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Sent for round 9, I just noticed the album the song is from is on your list too :tup
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i sent a 12 hour loop of a poop coming out of a butthole
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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So all entries are in, nice! Except results this Sunday, or Monday at most. I will start relistening previous rounds as well, so although this round may take a little longer, I think it'll be worth for those with lower scores, and I hope some ties will be broken before Finals.
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As in, you might re-evaluate previous scores? (Otherwise, what difference can it make?)
Not that I have an issue with it, just wondering.
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Yes, but I'll only sum points, for I feel it'd be a bit unfair to take some away - that's why when in doubt, I decided to go with lower scores in case I regretted.
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So you're going to listen to all the songs from previous rounds (120)? Or just the ones you had second thoughts about while scoring.
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Half of them now, and the other half after round 9 results but before round 10 results.
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i'm glad people are doing this because i discovered a lot of songs that grew on me when i went back to them later
so maybe i can get points back on cursive and east of the wall :loser:
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I really doubt about that tbh :lol
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they should call you failure swift
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I'm not Bolsters :angel:
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they should call you failure swift
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The banned and re-entry lists have been updated, as well as the playlists.
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For the first time in this roulette I'm gonna shuffle the 'Best of' playlist for a while, should be interesting.
.. aand what do you know, two out of the first three songs to come up are my songs, great playlist so far!
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the angelic process is on that list so beware
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Not really, since the album isn't on Spotify, only the reissue of Come Waering (which features a new, fantastic cover :o )
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oh. I don't use Spotify and didn't check the link. I just wanted it to be there to spite train. Also I need to get coma waering sometime
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Would've skipped it either way so it wouldn't have mathered. :lol
Some really cool songs in there, you're one lucky host.
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Yeah, I definitely love the variety of it - having 15 players was quite worth it :metal
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I'm still keeping it to 10 for.my next roulette, that's the sweet spot for me. Thinking 8 rounds, eliminate half, epic round, eliminate two more, ep.round with the top 3. we'll see tho this won't be for like another year :lol
I could probably scale that up to 12 people if I wanted tho
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I'll do 10-12, but I'm not sure I'll get that many :lol
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I'll do 10-12, but I'm not sure I'll get that many :lol
Most likely so. Most regular roulette participants atm are addicted so they will join any roulette that comes up, I'm pretty guilty of that aswell. I got my 12 participants in no time for my roulette and I was a complete stranger. :lol
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So I've just finished first listening, and... gosh this round is so underwhelming :lol
Like, there's one or two standouts, but overall it feels like a weak round. It's just a first impression, and I wouldn't trust it much, but I really hope some of these songs grow on me because otherwise this would be the worst round so far. And the top 5 might get shaken up a bit :corn
By the way, I also started doing relistens, and some of you will be pretty happy :smiley:
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glad you hated my song that much :lol
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I'd say my song for this round needs at least five listens to appreciate it. Until you know and memorize and accept the vocal melodies, it might seem very underwhelming, but when you do, it becomes really brilliant.
Of course, this is a Sacul's roulette, so I'm probably getting 2/5 anyway.
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Sacul, I already wrote your writeup for my song, so you can just use this instead of having to write one:
You said that maybe I would like this. You were right. I didn't like it. +2/5.
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I am just waiting for the 1.5 tbh this was intentionally a risky submission
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I have no idea what I sent.
Did I send anything? I hope I sent something.
edit: Oh wait I just remembered. Yeah, mine might be one of the ones Sacul doesn't like, I could definitely see that.
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I'm going to get a -1/5.
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I know I'm one of the underwhelming ones, I definitely should have gone with something else from the album. :\
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If you think my song is underwheling I will call bosk and ban you right now.
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actually, if everyone else sent bad songs, i probably got a 4 or 4.5
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While you all agonised, I added these to the list:
- 8mm - Between the Devil and Two Black Hearts
- Afro Celt Sound System - Capture (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda
- Amadeus Awad - Schizanimus (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Author & Punisher - Ursus Americanus
- Bic Runga - Birds (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Corpo-Mente - Corpo-Mente
- Euzen - Metamorph (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- FiFi Rong - Nex Pursuit
- Gary Numan - Hybrid
- Gary Numan - Splinter
- How to Destroy Angels - How to Destroy Angels
- How to Destroy Angels - Welcome Oblivion
- JunkFood - The Cold Summer of the Dead
- Justice - Cross
- Kaiti Kink Ensemble - Under the Iron Sky
- Kate Bush - 50 Words for Snow
- Lechuga - Lechuga (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Mree - Winterwell (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Ólafur Arnalds - For Now I Am Winter
- Rob dougan - Furious Angels (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Sister Crayon - Bellow
- Sister Crayon - Cynic
- Soap&Skin - Lovetune for Vacuum
- Soap&Skin - Narrow
- Stendeck - Faces
- Sylvan - Home (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- The Frames - Fitzcarraldo
- The Frames - The Cost
- Theodor Bastard - Vetvi (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Trioscapes - Separate Realities (this was added as a reminder to check this album - band is banned)
- Zircon - Identity Sequence
I might add a last batch right before posting this round's results, but I'd need more albums and I think I already have more than enough, so who knows :P
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actually, if everyone else sent bad songs, i probably got a 4 or 4.5
No, I sent an awesome song, I'm just saying Sacul might not have liked it. :P
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If you're feeling like it, regardless of what you think of Schizanimus, do make an effort and check out Death is Just a Feeling by Amadeus Awad. I think you like dark music and this album should be right up your alley. He's got Anneke singing on half of the songs too.
I'm probably wrong, but what the hell.
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If you're feeling like it, regardless of what you think of Schizanimus, do make an effort and check out Death is Just a Feeling by Amadeus Awad. I think you like dark music and this album should be right up your alley. He's got Anneke singing on half of the songs too.
Yep, that one's on my list aswell, should be amazing. These freaking piles of roulette albums I still have to check out. :-[
BTW, this list update only concerns Bolsters I assume? The rest of us are done with the list songs right?
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i was probably going to put Olafur Arnalds somewhere on my EP if i get that far, but i won't, so
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These freaking piles of roulette albums I still have to check out. :-[
My life atm.
And then you get a roulette album and you like it and you want to hear the rest of the band's work and it turns out they have like 9 studio albums.
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enslaved is going to drive me crazy because they have like 13 or so albums and apparently every last one of them is good
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Well, if you didn't like my song you're obviously wrong (again) because it’s awesome.
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Well, you finally added an album that I might actually have some confidence sending a song from. But I've been holding onto the artist for the EP round. :lol
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Well, you're basically obligated to send it now :P
Now I'm gonna shamelessly copy Evermind, but in a different way. Here's the round playlist, with only one element per track - the order is Song, Artist, Album:
(https://i66.tinypic.com/65wi2e.png)
Have fun trying to guess who sent what :corn
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You sent Blackbird to yourself? :neverusethis:
Nah it's probably the Beatles Blackbird, no idea who sent it.
Arc of Space I'm gonna guess is 425's since he sent it to me aswell. Mercy Falls could be a lot of people. Same goes for Jeff Buckley, guessing Elite but it could be a lot of people. The song off "The Tower" has to be Evermind's.
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yes, mine is obvious
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Mine
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Nah it's probably the Beatles Blackbird, no idea who sent it.
9:27
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You sent Blackbird to yourself? :neverusethis:
Nah it's probably the Beatles Blackbird, no idea who sent it.
Arc of Space I'm gonna guess is 425's since he sent it to me aswell. Mercy Falls could be a lot of people. Same goes for Jeff Buckley, guessing Elite but it could be a lot of people. The song off "The Tower" has to be Evermind's.
Nope, mine's from Mercy Falls.
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Oops. I fail :lol no more guesses.
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I already sent Jeff Buckley in this roulette, why would I do that twice?
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because the noob didn't get it the first time? :P
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My bad, I forgot we are in the only roulette in history where Jeff Buckley would be eligible for re-entry.
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I think that's because it looks like I was sent one of the worst songs on Grace :P
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HA! There is no such thing!
Well, nah actually. I don't remember what was sent, but if it was Lilac Wine, Eternal Life or maybe So Real, then you may very well have a point.
But on the whole the album is a whole lotta bangers and very little mash.
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I was sent So Real :P
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Lilac Wine is probably my favorite song from Grace.
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I don't know who sent Arc of Space, but I love them for it.
Lilac Wine is probably my favorite song from Grace.
Yeah, I know quite a few people that love it, I feel it just drags the album down personally.
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So Real is amazing and I stand by it.
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So Real is amazing and I stand by it.
I agree with you, but I do think it's one of the weaker Grace tracks. The guitar chord voicings on it are amazing tho, you can hear how Radiohead ripped the shit out of that guitar style, in Paranoid Android.
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It's too dissonant and weird for my tastes :P
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I've become more focused on the relistenings rather than on this round because of how underwhelming it is overall :lol
The first part of relisten results will be posted tomorrow Monday, round 9 results this Tuesday evening.
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sacul is it true that there's a longer length limit in round 10
i asked this before and never got an answer
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I aswered that to ToN, and yes, it will be. How much? I'm torn between 15 or 18 mins. Will let you know when R9 results are posted.
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ok i only need 12 can i submit early
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No.
Btw, since the top 3 (Fluffy, Elite, Bolsters) are pretty unlikely to drop from their position, I recommend you to start planning your EPs - basic guidelines are: overall limit of 30-35 minutes (more on this later), no more than 15 mins per artist. Flow will get into consideration. Good luck :tup
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:sadpanda:
if i miss submitting what i want to because of work i'm sending you oceansize instead
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Since all rounds are open, I assume there's no harm in sending a normal length song for round 10?
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I forgot about the potential of that epic last round.
There's an album on the list that I had ruled out sending something from because every track is like 15 mins. Guess I might be able to send it after all.
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If I have no chance of reaching the Finals, I'm probably going to send a 19-minutes-long song. I mean, I know it will be over the length limit but I had to endure Sacul's awful tastes during the whole roulette, so he should be able to deal with it. :lol
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I hope that that sneak-peek list isn't ranked from high to low :lol
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I think it might be, I wouldn't be too surprised if Hey Now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvk1TXKRtRM) was in last place judging by Sacul's tastes and common sense.
If I have no chance of reaching the Finals, I'm probably going to send a 19-minutes-long song. I mean, I know it will be over the length limit but I had to endure Sacul's awful tastes during the whole roulette, so he should be able to deal with it. :lol
That was actually my plan in your roulette if I have no more chance to promote to the next round, I have a very nice 19 minute-ish track that you might like :metal
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Don't forget the last round before the elimination is going to be female fronted. I won't accept anything not female fronted for that round.
Still, if it's male fronted, you can submit it for Round 5 though, points reduction and all.
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Yea I'm well informed, the plan would only persue if I completely failed the first 4 rounds, but I doubt I will be completely irrellevant to the competition at that point now.
I really suck at female fronted, in past roulettes I got away with it pretty nicely with some electronic stuff, but that doesn't cut it this time around :lol luckily I already have my string/woodwinds/brass song ready, so I have plenty of time to think it through.
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Evermind, this isn't your roulette thread :lol
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If you sent me a 19 mins song, I'd just reject it and ask for resubmission :P
Songs are ordered by how added them, don't look too much into it :loser:
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If you sent me a 19 mins song, I'd just reject it and ask for resubmission :P
No, see, you've got to accept it. Otherwise I'll send you some shitty song, and that 19 minutes one is quite great in my opinion.
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I don't know who sent Arc of Space, but I love them for it.
Hi.
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I don't know who sent Arc of Space, but I love them for it.
Hi.
in my heart I reach you
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If you sent me a 19 mins song, I'd just reject it and ask for resubmission :P
No, see, you've got to accept it. Otherwise I'll send you some shitty song, and that 19 minutes one is quite great in my opinion.
Maybe I could accept it and discount you like 1 or 2 points - in a out of 5 rating system, that's a lot :P
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So yeah, relisten results of the first five rounds. Most of these are pretty short because I don't have much to say besides what I've already stated in their former writeup - all of these just grew on me a bit.
Round 1
(Evermind) Pain of Salvation - Iter Impius
Yeah, I think I can get into this band through this album if it's half as good as this track.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Celldweller - Gift for you
Yeah, this track has a fantastic atmosphere and production.
Previous score: +4
New score: 4.5
(425) Coldplay - Midnight
Took me some time to get used to the song's minimalism, but it has a pretty great atmosphere.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
(sneakyblueberry) Horse the Band - Cloudwalker
Ok, maybe because I've been listening to Converge this made a bit more of sense now?
Previous score: 3
New score: +3
Round 2
(Train of Naught) Koan Sound - Sly Fox
For some reason I'm digging this more now than before. It's still pretty repetitive, but the groove makes up for it.
Previous score: +3.5
New score: 4
(FlyingBISKIT) The Dear Hunter - At the End of the Earth
Yeah, this is pretty great. The atmosphere is excellent and the outro quite good.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Maybe because I'm a bit sensible as of late this made click. It's a pretty emotional piece that I wonder why I didn't see that before - although it may sound like a happy song, it's definitely not a joyful one with that out of tune guitar and the desperate chorus. Sounds like a depressed person's attempt to lift itself up. I can picture this guy there on the cold basement playing it. Damn.
Previous score: +3
New score: +3.5
(Parama) The Angelic Process - Dying in A-Minor
I have no clue why I added this album to the list months ago, but I'm so glad I did. I've already listened to this record like 5 times, and it's amazing. This particular song is a nice breath of fresh air (well, kinda) in such a cathartic, crushing album. Those feels, and the atmosphere, damn. Oh, and I think the title track might be even better than Dying in A-Minor, but both are amazing.
Previous score: 4.5
New score: +4.5
(splent) Yellow Magic Orchestra - Behind the Mask
This is a bit better than I recalled it to be.
Previous score: +3
New scores: 3.5
Round 3
(splent) OutKast - B.O.B.
This song is pretty badass and varied. I should have payed it a bit more of attention back then.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) múm - We Have A Map Of The Piano
This is just wonderful. Those, eh... dunno what instruments are those that appear on the second half, but now I really liked them.
Previous score: +4
New score: 4.5
(sneakyblueberry) Frank Ocean - Pyramids
Yeah this song is better than any lame alt R&B like Drake or whatever.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
Round 4
(sneakyblueberry) Kayo Dot - Zlida Caosgi
Well, I like the most, eh... epic moments here? It still feels like it goes nowhere tho.
Previous score: +2.5
New score: 3
(Bolsters) Lorde - Glory And Gore
Somehow, I like this one a bit more on this relisten. The chorus is excellent.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
(Evermind) The Gentle Storm - New Horizons
Myabe if it had a little bit less cheese, I'd have loved it, but it's still excellent.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
Sadly no round 5 songs were worthy of bonus point on relistens - yeah it still sucks. Updated standings!
Standings
33 - Fluffy Lothario xxxxx
33 - Elite xxxxx
+32 - Bolsters xxxx
+30.5 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxxxx
30.5 - home xxxxx
+30 - Parama xxxxx
+30 - Train of Naught xxxxx
+30 - Evermind xxxxx
(30 - Symphony)
30 - Biskit xxxxx
+29 - senecadawg2 xxxxx
28 - 425 xxxxx
28 - splent xxxxx
+27.5 - Tyrias xxxxx
26.5 - Sneakyblueberry xxxxx
24.5 - mikemangioy xxxxx
Although the top 3 is pretty much going to the finals at this point, Shadow Ninja and home are at risk if they fuck up and either ToN, Evermind, or Parama come up with something great. To the rest, the roulette is not over yet! :smiley:
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is the +4.5 the highest score of the roulette thus far, i don't remember anything else getting one of those yet :lol
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Only your song and Bird of Sorrow :P
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oh, bird of sorrow, fair enough
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(Evermind) Pain of Salvation - Iter Impius
Yeah, I think I can get into this band through this album if it's half as good as this track.
Previous score: 4
New score: +4
It isn't. :lol
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I beg to differ, BE is excellent
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I beg to differ, BE is excellent
It's decent, but Iter Impius is so much better than everything else on the album (except maybe Imago and Martius / Nauticus II) it's not even a contest for me.
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I was very disappointed with BE.
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I beg to differ, BE is excellent
It's decent, but Iter Impius is so much better than everything else on the album (except maybe Imago and Martius / Nauticus II) it's not even a contest for me.
Iter Impius is by far the best track indeed, but there's many other excellent songs on the album. I can see why one wouldn't like the album though and it's not my favourite Pain of Salvation record either, but to write off the album as a whole.. Yes, it's does have its shitty moments (especially in the endlessly dragging snoozefest of Dea Pecuniae), but the good moments are so good. The live version of the album is actually even better than the studio version (if you pay no attention to the weird video choreography). I'll have to relisten it myself, it's been a long time.
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I was very disappointed with BE.
Well, I know I sent you Iter Impius, but you probably should've tried Remedy Lane or TPE pt. 1 first.
Yes, it's does have its shitty moments (especially in the endlessly dragging snoozefest of Dea Pecuniae)
Yeah, that one is pretty bad. This song is probably the main reason I don't love this album.
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Didn't expect a bonus point for Sly Fox :lol but nice. The race for the finals is starting to get really tight now.
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The race for the finals is starting to get really tight now.
And I hoped this relisten would break some ties :lol
Hopefully the next relisten and Round 9 results will do so - expect the latter in ~10-12 hours from this post. If I were you, I'd be like this:
(https://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/641/298/448.jpg)
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you already told us everything was awful, I just want to be home by the time yout post results so I don't get snubbed sending the song I want to :lol
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The race for the finals is starting to get really tight now.
And I hoped this relisten would break some ties :lol
Hopefully the next relisten and Round 9 results will do so - expect the latter in ~10-12 hours from this post. If I were you, I'd be like this:
(https://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/641/298/448.jpg)
Nah more like
(https://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z404/mattie4ever/Roullete%20update_zpszzvf2xhm.png) (https://s1188.photobucket.com/user/mattie4ever/media/Roullete%20update_zpszzvf2xhm.png.html)
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The race for the finals is starting to get really tight now.
And I hoped this relisten would break some ties :lol
Hopefully the next relisten and Round 9 results will do so - expect the latter in ~10-12 hours from this post. If I were you, I'd be like this:
(https://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/641/298/448.jpg)
That's exactly how I am. Already debating whether I should get you banned or leave DTF if you hate my song.
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Elite is right about BE--really good album.
Not as good as Remedy Lane, though, in my opinion.
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Celestial Soonlixir
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(https://i63.tinypic.com/2whgoig.png)
While you wait for results, I'll leave this here :corn
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i had the best song in the best round, i win the roulette by defualt :neverusethis:
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You know, I decided to have 15 players to up the chances of finding good stuff, and to have somehow consistent rounds with just a few duds - seems like that proportion has gone the other way around this time. Honoestly, at this point of the game, I didn't expect this. But, in the end, my tastes make little sense to you although they're pretty clear to me, so it's not much of your fault :P
(mikemangioy) Mestís - Gentle Giant
Eh... no. Kind of generic whale-core :P At least the bass sounds gud. 2.5/5
(Parama) The Hirsch Effekt - Bezoar
I think that even after like 5-6 listens, this track still makes very little sense to me structurally. I wouldn't mind if every part was awesome on its own. Sadly, this isn't really the case - I feel the good parts are sporadic, while there's an abundance of heavy sections that seem done for the sake of heaviness. And for some reason some melodic parts remind of Haken circa Visions. And I like Converge because of the excellent songwriting - those guys don't make heavy, furious songs for the sake of it, but to express and fuel their anger and frustration. Kind of the same with Nine Inch Nails. Although I have to be in the mood to enjoy the mentioned, I feel like an emotional catharsis when I listen to them. Plus they have better songwriting. 2.5/5
(Evermind) Seventh Wonder - Unbreakable
This is like a crossover of power metal, prog, and anime intro (or outro?) music - a fucking cheesefest :lol
Honestly, this sounds generic as fuck, and falls into several of the tropes I dislike about the aforementioned genres - even a guitar solo lol. No, I don't connect with this kind of music at all. Basically that. Oh, and the singer is pretty great. 2.5/5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Vulture Industries - The Tower
I can definitely see why you love this thing, but I honestly don't connect with it. Don't have much to say, for that sums up it perfect. +2.5/5
(senecadawg2) Max Richter - She Remembers
Soundtracks are a very tricky thing to me, for I feel I rarely enjoy them out of their context without having listened to them in such context in the first place. I can only imagine this piece belong to a very dark, sad scene of this series. It's a nice little song, but... just that. Nothing makes it stand out nor I connect with it - it feels incomplete without context. At this point I wonder if you're even trying, mate - I know you have better stuff that would suit my tastes :P 3/5
(sneakyblueberry) Jeff Buckley - Vancouver
For a moment I thought you would try to redeem Buckley with another song from Grace :P So... even after several listens I can't recall a single thing from this song besides his great vocal performance. Odd thing, but I guess it's because I didn't really connect with it. 3/5
(Bolsters) MØ - Pilgrim
This is quite a mixed tune, for on one had there's a nice atmosphere and good vocals and melodies - on the other that weird, eh... trumpet melody that keeps appearing for like half of the song. I don't really like it. Other than that, it was nice I guess - maybe I'd have like other songs from the album more, as you said :P 3/5
(425) Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
I can be quite picky with my ballads - while I normally prefer female-fronted beautiful stuff (like iamthemorning and Marketa Irglová <3), that doesn't mean I can't enjoy a ballad with male vocals. And... I don't really connect with this track. And the worst is I'm not exactly sure why - the song is there, and I'm here, but there's basically no link between both as it would happen with tunes I liked more. 3/5
(splent) G. F. Handel - Solomon: Arrival of the Queen of Sheba
This is one of those things about classical music that make it such a mixed genre for me - lots of compositions sound the same, or very similar, like they could be written by the same guy. While enjoyable, I didn't find anything really outstanding about this piece. If it makes you feel better, here is my absolute favorite classical piece: Beethoven - Sonata 14 "Moonlight" Movement 1. There's a world of difference between listening to a recorded interpretation and playing it, for it's a very moving piece - when I learned it, it could made me tear up. Really an astonishing composition. 3/5
(Elite) Look to Windward - Vad Åskan Sade
What kind of music this even is? :lol
To be honest I feel quite mixed about this song, for it goes many, many places in less than 7 mins, meaning it's quite hard to digest in just a few listens. I don't mind this approach as long as each place is interesting and doesn't appear abruptly. But I'm afraid that this song goes to places I quite like as well as others that just underwhelm me. It indeed has some interesting "textures" going on. But overall it's just all over the place and doesn't feel cohesive at all, like without a clear direction. Maybe it will grow on me on relistens, but I can't score it higher than this now. +3/5
(Fluffy Lothario) Fat Freddy’s Drop - Blackbird
So this is some kind of nice mix of reggae with soul. I dunno what to say about it other than I just liked it. Nothing mindblowing, but quite enjoyable - I dig the good vibes here and the short solos. 3.5/5
(Train of Naught) Apocalyptica - Path
A very interesting combination of strings and metal, and it works quite well. I'm not convinced on the guitar sound production - sounds quite weak and doesn't have the best sound to it. The ocassional synths are a nice touch. Overall, it kind of repeats the same theme and makes it fell like it goes nowhere - and the end is too abrupt. So, very good idea, kinda could-be-better execution. 3.5/5
(Tyrias) Caravan Palace - Suzy
For reasons I can't explain, I have a bit of a soft spot for cabaret and swing music, and electro swing is definitely something I want to dig deeper in the future. Although it may not be the most varied song in the round, it does its job very very well - good thing I have one of their albums in the list. 4/5
(BIZKIT) The Aristocrats - Bad Asteroid
This is the kind of stuff that reminds me of LTE - pretty groovy instrumental music that's closer to Jazz Fusion, and shows the great chemistry between the musicians. Overall, although Guthrie kind of dominates the piece, the other guys made some tasty work. Pretty interesting. 4/5
(home) London Grammar - Hey Now
So earlier today I did one listen of this round, and throughout the day I had this song stuck in my head - and that's normally a good sign. At first her voice felt a bit weird since it's a bit unusual to find singers that sing (duh) in a low register most of the time. But I got used to it, and quite like it now for how unique it is. Gorgeous atmosphere, definitely. My only complaint, and with like most of this round's songs, is how short it feels - in my opinion, this track could have been developed a bit more. Other than that, this is excellent. +4/5
Standings
36.5 - Fluffy Lothario xxxxx
+36 - Elite xxxxx
+35 - Bolsters xxxx
+34.5 - home xxxxx
34 - Biskit xxxxx
+33.5 - Train of Naught xxxxx
33.5 - Shadow Ninja 2.0 xxxxx
(33.5 - Symphony)
+32.5 - Parama xxxxx
+32.5 - Evermind xxxxx
+32.5 - senecadawg2 xxxxx
+31.5 - Tyrias xxxxx
31 - 425 xxxxx
31 - splent xxxxx
29.5 - Sneakyblueberry xxxxx
27 - mikemangioy xxxxx
OHBOY, finally the tie in the lead has been broken, and Fluffy claims his crown, but he shall wait until after finals to see if he shall be crowned as the master of my roulette. In the meantime home solidifies his position in the top 5 at #4 with the biskit at the edge of it, with ToN just behind his very feet - a relisten and the round 10 results will determine who will get the precious ticket to THE INSANE EP ROUND IN WHICH YOU WILL ALL SUFFER WITH BAD SCORES. Unless a miracle (and a tragedy) occurs, the rest are unlikely to get a chance, but who knows - this last round is your last shot for 10 of you folks, so make it worth it.
So...
ROUND 10 ROUND 10 ROUND 10 ROUND 10 ROUND 10 ROUND 10
I have decided to wrap this part of the roulette up with a bang: the absolute time limit here is 18:30 mins, and not a single second more unless it's of silence or subtle fadeout. Of course you dont have to send something so long - I'll be equally happy if you submit an awesome 5-min track or a fantastic 17-min epic. You have 48 hours to send from now. Good luck!
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At this point I wonder if you're even trying, mate - I know you have better stuff that would suit my tastes
You don't know shit
ETA: Go Bizkit :heart
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:'(
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awesome, i'm pretty much 100% out of the finals now :tup
(i'm aware that i'm only 1.25 points behind 5th place rn tho but that's a lot in this roulette, even if i'm getting a 4.5 with this song unless sacul sucks (which he does) or someone else beat me to it)
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I guess I still don't get your tastes or your roulette. Half the submissions were by your own request and yet you didn't seem to like many of those submissions anyways :huh:
It's just odd that you seem to take so much pleasure in making these lists and yet, at the same time, seemingly little pleasure in listening to many of the bands you put on the list. Or am I misunderstanding?
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it's more stuff that he wants to look into not knowing whether or not he'll enjoy it than music he knows he'll like in general
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Sent
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I guess I still don't get your tastes or your roulette. Half the submissions were by your own request and yet you didn't seem to like many of those submissions anyways :huh:
Did I actually ask, and for that many submissions? I only recall suggesting that you could send Divenire or Bird of Sorrow since by other hosts' descriptions they seemed up my alley, and kinda trying to help you in a subtle way I guess - oh and Parama's The Angelic Process tune, but just out of curiosity since ToN and the Bizkit didn't seem to enjoy it just to see how it'd score :P
Fluffy summed my tastes up very well quite early on the game.
It's just odd that you seem to take so much pleasure in making these lists and yet, at the same time, seemingly little pleasure in listening to many of the bands you put on the list. Or am I misunderstanding?
I don't understand this - is it because of my scores on the list? It's just a reflection of how much I enjoy such albums, really - I've explored many of the bands I discovered there and enjoyed their stuff a lot.
it's more stuff that he wants to look into not knowing whether or not he'll enjoy it than music he knows he'll like in general
Definitely this - I even added lots of albums I know it's pretty probable I won't like just out of curiosity either for their "cult" status or something else.
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since you haven't pmed me telling me to resubmit i guess nobody else beat me to this one?
second person i've sent the same song to today, so :P
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Yup, you're in - I've been meaning to check that band for quite some time so this should be fun at least :P
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i'd have sent something off the album you had on your list since i think it's a better album as a whole, except there's three songs and two of them are over 10 minutes, and the third is the weakest (still great tho)
plus, this is the band's best song anyways
1.5/5 hated it
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I don't know who sent Arc of Space, but I love them for it.
Hi.
in my heart I reach you
:heart
Oh well. I tried, Sacul, I really tried, but I don't think I hit the mark that often. At least I got you to like Midnight pretty well—that's victory enough for me. At this point it doesn't really matter what I send and I have no idea what to send anyway. Maybe I'll just send Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
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Hahaha 2.5. :lol
Now, see, what do you prefer: high-pitched vocals or growls?
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Maybe I'll just send Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
Nope, I already know that one :tup
Now, see, what do you prefer: high-pitched vocals or growls?
Growls.
On a side note, looks like this was indeed the weakest round so far :corn
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Alright, will send something with high-pitched vocals this evening.
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i really should just change my entry to oceansize to take the piss but w/e
i think if i changed to oceansize, i'd be sending a song a i like even more, that you hate
i don't know what oceansize you've heard though
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Hahaha 2.5. :lol
Now, see, what do you prefer: high-pitched vocals or growls?
just send high pitched growls. Everyone wins!
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maybe I'd have like other songs from the album more, as you said :P
I really do think you would, it was a poor choice on my part. Even though this song got a lousy score I'd still recommend listening to the album eventually.
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i don't know what oceansize you've heard though
I enjoy Eflloresce a bit, and I like it more than Frames :P
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i don't know what oceansize you've heard though
I enjoy Eflloresce a bit, and I like it more than Frames :P
so, you're wrong
i mean both are great and frames is better
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maybe I'd have like other songs from the album more, as you said :P
I really do think you would, it was a poor choice on my part. Even though this song got a lousy score I'd still recommend listening to the album eventually.
Recommend me another song from it, and if I like it enough, it shall be added to the list. Don't forget to send your last list entry btw :smiley:
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the only song with mo i've heard is that lean on song that was a hit
it's alright, kinda catchy, she's an ok singer i guess
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Recommend me another song from it, and if I like it enough, it shall be added to the list. Don't forget to send your last list entry btw :smiley:
Try out Red In The Grey.
Round 10 sent btw. :tup
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I guess I still don't get your tastes or your roulette. Half the submissions were by your own request and yet you didn't seem to like many of those submissions anyways :huh:
Did I actually ask, and for that many submissions? I only recall suggesting that you could send Divenire or Bird of Sorrow since by other hosts' descriptions they seemed up my alley, and kinda trying to help you in a subtle way I guess - oh and Parama's The Angelic Process tune, but just out of curiosity since ToN and the Bizkit didn't seem to enjoy it just to see how it'd score :P
That's not what I meant. I was talking about your list in general and half of our submissions needing to come from that list and many of those submissions seeming to miss the mark (i.e. why put them on the list in the first place?)
Parama's explanation makes sense, I guess, it's just interesting--you giving us a list of albums you think you might be interested in and then having us send songs from those albums. Almost like you're spending more time finding music that you might be interested in than you are in actually listening to that music... And generally speaking I think my submissions outside of the 5 pre-approved albums from your list tended to score just as high if not higher than my submissions from the list. I guess that's what confused me.
I don't know if that makes any sense though, so I'll stop.
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i will admit that i am baffled how sacul can have such a huge to-listen list. i haven't had much of one lately myself since i'm too busy buying music to find new stuff, but even at its worst my list was only like 50ish albums long
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Parama's explanation makes sense, I guess, it's just interesting--you giving us a list of albums you think you might be interested in and then having us send songs from those albums. Almost like you're spending more time finding music that you might be interested in than you are in actually listening to that music... And generally speaking I think my submissions outside of the 5 pre-approved albums from your list tended to score just as high if not higher than my submissions from the list. I guess that's what confused me.
I came up with this send-from-list idea to kind of limit a bit the amount of albums I'd have to add to it - the list was already too big before this even started. Having people send only and only from the list wouldn't have made sense and probably pissed off everyone. This also serves me as a way to organize in what order I'll listen to some of the albums on it - instead of randomly choosing them, let folks at DTF help me make some killer combinations (just look at those in the "listening organised" page of the list). Having listened to aprox. 147 if the list albums so far, I wouldn't say I don't spend time listening to them.
But in my v3 in 2 years or so there ain't gonna be list-only entries :P
i will admit that i am baffled how sacul can have such a huge to-listen list. i haven't had much of one lately myself since i'm too busy buying music to find new stuff, but even at its worst my list was only like 50ish albums long
It has gotten out of hand I confess :lol - but I plan to put an absolute limit on 2k, and before reaching that, only adding albums from which I already know a song or two and sounds worth getting.
But this last week I've been purging it - going album through album to see if it's too obscure to even bother trying to find it. Most of those have been either trip-hop or japanese records ;D
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Maybe I'll just send Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
Nope, I already know that one :tup
Alright, didn't send this one. But I did send a long prog song, if only to remind you for a constant 16 minutes and 19 seconds (don't anyone bother looking that up, it's a live version from YouTube so I'm sure it's different in length) that I'm still in this roulette.
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Worst score received so far :tup
Don't worry, it's probably the 'worst' song I sent anyway (at least in terms of how accessible it is). How it got more points than Seventh Wonder though, I will never know.
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songs i've sent ranked best to worst, imo
comforting sounds
el manana
<round 10>
the apologist
dying in a-minor
butcher the song
buzzcut season
bezoar
farewell
oranssi pazuzu song whatever it's called :lol
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(Train of Naught) Apocalyptica - Path
I'm not convinced on the guitar sound production - sounds quite weak and doesn't have the best sound to it.
THERE'S NO GUITAR :lol
Anyway I did mediocre but apparently that's not bad for this round, so I'm okay with it.
Gonna use my secret weapon this round.
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My secret weapon consists of losing my place in the Finals
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Looking back at this roulette I sent too much weird stuff because I thought you could handle it, when it turns out you couldn't really. I should have realized that earlier. Glad you liked Caravan Palace at least, I was pretty certain you would.
No idea what I'm going to send for the last round, but it's not going to be above 8 minutes. I might even resubmit something from a band you didn't like that much before.
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The great reaction to Suzy is actually what ended up making me send my happy secret weapon :metal
I'm coming for you biz.
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So Bolsters HAS to send something from the dreaded list now, right?
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fuck, totally missed the brief for the last round and just sent a pitiful 6 or 7 minute-a. oh well.
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So Bolsters HAS to send something from the dreaded list now, right?
Which is precisely what I did. ;)
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(Train of Naught) Apocalyptica - Path
I'm not convinced on the guitar sound production - sounds quite weak and doesn't have the best sound to it.
THERE'S NO GUITAR :lol
:rollin
Predicted writeup for my next song:
"This is okay. The banjo player sucks though. And the flute is too low in the mix. I like the glockenspiel, though. +2/5"
Looking back at this roulette I sent too much weird stuff because I thought you could handle it, when it turns out you couldn't really.
This is the most shade I have ever seen someone throw at a roulette host.
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Come on Tyrias, your only weird song is that Russian Roulette track ::) - I do like some weird shit like Swans, Death Grips, Susanna & Jenny Hval, Igorrr, clipping, Converge, and similar.
Dunno what instrument that is, ToN, but is so distorted that it sounds like a cheap guitar :P
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(Train of Naught) Apocalyptica - Path
I'm not convinced on the guitar sound production - sounds quite weak and doesn't have the best sound to it.
THERE'S NO GUITAR :lol
Hahahaha I love when this happens. It's almost like mistaking the female vocals for male ones, only funnier. :lol
Alright, I sent this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blFB0i3xcxA). Have fun, Sacul!
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It's just 4 cello's, I don't know which tone you're specifically talking about. If you don't like it, I can't blame you though.
(Train of Naught) Apocalyptica - Path
I'm not convinced on the guitar sound production - sounds quite weak and doesn't have the best sound to it.
THERE'S NO GUITAR :lol
Hahahaha I love when this happens. It's almost like mistaking the female vocals for male ones, only funnier. :lol
Alright, I sent this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blFB0i3xcxA). Have fun, Sacul!
nice. 240p
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He's listening on Spotify anyway.
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(Train of Naught) Apocalyptica - Path
I'm not convinced on the guitar sound production - sounds quite weak and doesn't have the best sound to it.
THERE'S NO GUITAR :lol
Hahahaha I love when this happens. It's almost like mistaking the female vocals for male ones, only funnier. :lol
I am never going to live that down. :lol
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Someone did that when I sent múm, I think. Was that you 425, or somebody else?
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No, you never sent me múm. I did it on one of Evermind's submissions.
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Damn, I should sent to you now, then. Listen to múm, it'll be good for you.
I wonder who I sent it to, then. Damn it Shadow Ninja, your impeccable memory has failed you for the first time in history.
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Damn, I should sent to you now, then. Listen to múm, it'll be good for you.
do actually go listen to finally we are no one tho it's quite good
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I may sent múm in the championship, so please don't listen to it now :angel:
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I may sent múm in the championship, so please don't listen to it now :angel:
Feel free, if you want a zero from me. :P
Also; I typed out a response to 425's comment about me being too cruel (or some such), but apparently my phone didn't post it. My comment mostly applies to the Legendary Pink Dots song, the others were more of a "I love this, but most of the forum would probably hate this. I should send it now, at least Sacul doesn't hate electronic elements out of principle."
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Also; I typed out a response to 425's comment about me being too cruel (or some such), but apparently my phone didn't post it. My comment mostly applies to the Legendary Pink Dots song, the others were more of a "I love this, but most of the forum would probably hate this. I should send it now, at least Sacul doesn't hate electronic elements out of principle."
Fair enough, though I still don't get that Pink Dots song nor what they were trying to accomplish :P
And in general I've grown to love electronic elements a lot in the last year or so, so it was a good attempt nevertheless :tup
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While I wait for all entries, I've already started doing relistens :corn
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Also; I typed out a response to 425's comment about me being too cruel (or some such), but apparently my phone didn't post it. My comment mostly applies to the Legendary Pink Dots song, the others were more of a "I love this, but most of the forum would probably hate this. I should send it now, at least Sacul doesn't hate electronic elements out of principle."
To be clear, I wasn't criticizing you for being too cruel, I was laughing about the shade that you threw.
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Sent a very short song :P But I think you'll enjoy it
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Resubmitted. 3 songs this time, all of them pretty different, and in ored or preference. Looking back, I'm pretty sure any of these would have been a vast improvement over some of the songs I sent in this roulette :P. Well, hindsight is a bitch.
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So wait am I supposed to only send one or three or what?
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So wait am I supposed to only send one or three or what?
One, I just wanted to make sure I'd not have to resend again.
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I'm considering sending a fucked up song by a weird band, bordering on noise with deliberate messy production. Think you might dig it?
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well since i've fallen out of contention I'm sending something (later today) that I like which means you'll probably hate it :lol
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I'm considering sending a fucked up song by a weird band, bordering on noise with deliberate messy production. Think you might dig it?
Probably not :lol
Well it depends - if it's like Converge or Destrage, I guess it'd be cool. If it's like The Hirsch Effekt or Sikth, definitely not :P
Also, an hour before public shaming and I only have 11 submissions :corn
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that's just like, your opinion man
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Of course :-*
Oops, miscounted, 12 submissions in, so 3 missing :corn
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Shame away.
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and here we witness the ceremonial shaming of the roulette participants. only 5 will survive the winter.
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Isn't Destrage basically the same kind of music as SiKth, only Italian and a little less extreme?
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sikth has worse vocals, though destrage doesn't have great vocals either at times :lol
but destrage is def a lot more melodic than sikth
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Isn't Destrage basically the same kind of music as SiKth, only Italian and a little less extreme?
No. I'd say they're very different.
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SikTh are fucking fantastic.
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Oops, fell asleep and have classes now so shaming will have to wait :P
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Good. More to get excited about!
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:corn
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It's not gonna be me this time guys!
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Your master is on a league of its own.
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Good. More to get excited about!
I don't think he realized he didn't send when he made this post :lol
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Good. More to get excited about!
Boy, this sure is exciting!
Time to keep this thread at the top of the boards for extra public shame. :corn
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:rollin
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Good. More to get excited about!
I don't think he realized he didn't send when he made this post :lol
Of course I did :')
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I didn't actually check if you know the band I just sent, but I figured you don't, so you may remove the shaming from the thread title. I'm eagerly awaiting results from now on :corn
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Finally! Due to the epic proportions of this round, expect results next Wednesday.
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I'm already dead inside :tup
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Uhhh, sending a long song wasn't a requirement per se, right? Or else I'll have to send something 3 times as long as the song I sent instead.
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my song was less than 3 minutes
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Good, mine was a minute more :lol
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Mine was long because I have no chance anyway so why not.
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mine was forget not
I probably won't send it again after this and genowyn's roulette tho
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Why not? It's a flawless song, deserves more recognition (even though it's fairly popular at this point already) and gets great scores as far as I know.
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because variety is the spice of losing roulettes
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Just checked the last.fm, :tup to whoever sent Citizen Erased, amazing song. Though I doubt Sacul will like it for some reason.
"Boring riff, annoys me to death tbh. This song is alright but it's too repetitive and the singer is annoying as hell, sounds like some shitty Dream Theater cover of Never Enough." +2.5/5
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Citizen Erased is great until the awful phaser effect at the end
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I never even thought of sending Muse in a roulette, but if I would, New Born would be my first and only thought for it. Best Muse song by far IMO.
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wow that's a huge misspelling of apocalypse please
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Those are the Spotify tracks, I have like 4 more in a YT playlist :P
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*looks at last.fm*
“Huh, Sacul listened to Birds. WTF is up with that track order though?”
*looks it up, the international edition of the album has a totally different track order*
Anyway, you may wanna try the original album order. It could just be that I’m used to it one way and not the other though.
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I quite liked it, but I'll try it with the new tracklist soon :P
EDIT: Well, now that everyone can get into last.fm and check the songs, I'll post the remaning ones that aren't on Spotify bun on a YT playlist:
JOANNA NEWSOM - Emily
GLORYHAMMER - The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee (Live)
Spock's Beard - The Light (Live)
Homestuck - Moonsetter
Have fun guessing who sent what :corn
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Damn someone sent Homestuck
who could it have been
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We'll never be able to guess who sent Homestuck.
Glad that none of my EP artists have been sent. Unless you have a last-minute rule to throw a wrench into the works, mine is good to go. :letam:
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No rock, metal, or prog allowed in the EP round :neverusethis:
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No rock, metal, or prog allowed in the EP round :neverusethis:
That wouldn't be much of a wrench for me, actually.
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No pop allowed. :police:
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no music allowed, you're only allowed to send animal noises
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I AM THE CATFISH-MAN. I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!
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I AM HUMANUS ERECTUS
STAND BACK
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Genuinely though, I can take The Light and Flow and leave everything else Neal Morse has ever done, with SB, solo or Transatlantic. In those two songs, he did everything I feel the need to hear him do.
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Pretty funny how the first song on a band's debut album is the best song the band ever makes.
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I quite like his work on Flying Colors :P
This reminds me I should check more of Transatlantic's stuff.
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Fun facts about this round:
- It has both the longest (duh) AND the shortest songs of the roulette.
- There's quite a difference between the top tracks and the bottom ones, with little in between.
- 3 soundtracks wtf.
- Someone in the top 5 has sent a dud and lost his place :corn
- Two of these songs are really, really fucked up. One is amazing, the other sucks ass.
Expect relistening results tomorrow.
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it's a good thing i'm not in the top 5 or i'd have to worry
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My song could be one of the really fucked up ones, and depending which way it lands, so to speak, it's totally believable that Sacul might love it or hate it.
It'd have to get like a 1.5 to get me booted out of the top 5 though, surely. :lol
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Someone in the top 5 has sent a dud and lost his place :corn
I wonder if this one is decided after the relistening bonuses, or does this person still have a chance to enter the finals with relistening results?
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Crap, mine is one of the fucked up songs :lol
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Someone in the top 5 has sent a dud and lost his place :corn
I wonder if this one is decided after the relistening bonuses, or does this person still have a chance to enter the finals with relistening results?
Mmnn I didn't add up those yet so who knows :P
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So I've revisited rounds 6 to 9 (:neverusethis:) and I've got to say, I didn't expect some of these tracks to grow on me like they did. Sadly, round 7 didn't have any of them. One exception below. As before, short writeups.
Round 2
(425) Bon Iver - Skinny Love
The biggest grower on the whole damn roulette - I just love this more with each listen, and the only track from previous rounds I felt like revisiting for this ocassion. Damn, how this went from a +4 to this, is beyond me.
Previous score: +3.5
New score: 4
Round 6
(Tyrias) Azedia - Requiem for the New World
Ok I realize I was too harsh with this one. Yeah, the narration turns me off, but it doesn't last as much as I thought it did. Also, the instrumentation is pretty nice too, although I feel it drags a bit overall. Sorry for the rant back then :angel: .
Previous score: 3
New score: 3.5
(Biskit) Pearl Jam - Black
The reason this one got a 3 was before although I like what I heard, I strugguled to remember anything from it except some vocal melodies. Now I realise that's because this band doesn't have an instantly recognizable, unique sound to them. And most melodies here aren't really memorable tbh. That being said, I have grown to appreciate the emotional power behind it, but just that.
Previous score: 3
New score: 3.5
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Steam Powered Giraffe - Brass Goggles
Why is this so awesome?
Previous score: +4
New score: 4.5
Round 8
(home) God Is an Astronaut - Fire Flies And Empty Skies
So this might not be the most creative song on the roulette, and post-rock is certainly a genre I feel I'm done with having listened to the big artists. However this grew a bit on me. With that said, when it gets good, like in the last minute, it just ends in a really abrup way. So I don't think I can score it more than this.
Previous score: +3
New score: 3.5
(Elite) Theodor Bastard - Umbraya Erze
For some reason this kind of music makes me travel to distant, surreal landscapes. And I love it when it happens. Plus, I'm a bit of a sucker for this kind of dark world music with some tribal stuff in.
Previous score: +4
New score: 4.5
Round 9
(Parama) The Hirsch Effekt - Bezoar
This song is still a fucking mess, but now it's actually enjoyable for some reason. The "extreme" moments are still my least favourite, for I feel they're heavy for the sake of it, and to me that's pointless.
Previous score: 2.5
New score: 3
(Bolsters) MØ - Pilgrim
Excellent production and vocals, but that trumpet still annoys me a bit.
Previous score: 3
New score: 3.5
(sneakyblueberry) Jeff Buckley - Vancouver
Well, Jeff surely put a lot of passion on his singing here.
Previous score: 3
New score: 3.5
(425) Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
I guess I just don't connect with the songwriting and how this song is built, yet the score I gave it before feels unfair.
Previous score: 3
New score: 3.5
(home) London Grammar - Hey Now
I'm in love with this - fantastic atmosphere and excellent vocals. It ends a bit abrupt tho.
Previous score: +4
New score: 4.5
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Standings
36.5 - Fluffy Lothario
36.5 - Elite
+35.5 - Bolsters
+35 - home
34.5 - Biskit
+33.5 - Train of Naught
+33.5 - Shadow Ninja 2.0
(33.5 - Symphony)
+33 - Parama
+32.5 - Evermind
+32 - senecadawg2
+32 - Tyrias
+31.5 - 425
31 - splent
30 - Sneakyblueberry
27 - mikemangioy
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So yet another tie in the lead, how surprising. Now home is pretty much into the finals at this point, as well as the Biskit. But will it remain this way with the next round? I may have talked too soon to predict if someone fell out of the top 5, but who knows...
Reminder Round 10 results will be up this Wednesday evening GMT -3.
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well, i made no relative progress against BIZKIT but i did make a little progress against Train and Shadow, at least :P
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Yup :P
Also, even after relistens, round 9 is still the weakest round :lol
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(Biskit) Pearl Jam - Black
The reason this one got a 3 was before although I like what I heard, I strugguled to remember anything from it except some vocal melodies. Now I realise that's because this band doesn't have an instantly recognizable, unique sound to them
gonna have to strongly disagree with you there. even as someone only somewhat acquainted with their sound, it's pretty easy to tell a Pearl Jam song once it pops on, even if it's just through Eddies vocal. He's the pioneer of that sort of drawly, almost Texan-sounding singing style that got absolutely raped in the post-Grunge era (i'm looking at you, Scott Stapp you crazy bastard).
And most melodies here aren't really memorable tbh
'do-do DO-do do-do-do' x17 /thread
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Dunno, it's one of those tracks that leave little mark on me. Like, it enters through an ear, and gets out by the other :P
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(Bolsters) MØ - Pilgrim
Excellent production and vocals, but that trumpet still annoys me a bit.
Previous score: 3
New score: 3.5
Ironically, it's the brass that I originally thought you would like about the song. :lol
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and thus the controversy
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Slowly slipping up the charts except not really.
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Thought this would happen, my last half of the scores were already pretty solid apart from aerials and path to a lesser extent. I'm pretty much out of the race unless a miracle happens.
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omg
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Thought this would happen, my last half of the scores were already pretty solid apart from aerials and path to a lesser extent. I'm pretty much out of the race unless a miracle happens.
This time I thought I would finally "get" Aerials, but nope :P
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Finally! Due to the epic proportions of this round, expect results next Wednesday.
:corn
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I'm delaying results one day because I have much shit to do today, and can barely browse DTF for a while. Tomorrow I'll have way more free time and will dedicate some hours to make this an epic last round. Well, last for 10 of you.
I think that this roulette, running for almost two months now, with 10 rounds and 15 players, can afford a one-day delay :angel:
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yeah take your time
but I'm still gonna be mad :loser:
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Since it looks like I might actually be making it to the EP round: only half of my songs are on Spotify, I was thinking that I would send files for the remaining songs so that you could add them into Spotify. Unless you would prefer Youtube links?
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Since I do all my listening on my pc, I'll accept files. More info on that after posting results, which should happen within the next 24 hours :tup
THE END IS NIGH. :dangerwillrobinson:
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Since I do all my listening on my pc, I'll accept files. More info on that after posting results, which should happen within the next 24 hours :tup
THE END IS NIGH. :dangerwillrobinson:
REPENT! REPENT!
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I just woke up
inside from a great siesta, I'm starting those write-ups right now.
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save me
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siesta :zydarscouch:
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Yeah I woke up like at 7 am having slept only 4 hours, and needed to lay down. Now I have like 3 hours before my next class so I'm trying to get this done fast :metal
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I did 10 writeups in like 90 minutes or so each, you should only need 2 hours max with how short yours are :neverusethis:
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I did 10 writeups in like 90 minutes or so each, you should only need 2 hours max with how short yours are :neverusethis:
Two hours if he decides to listen to the songs again. Otherwise, make it 30 minutes. :neverusethis:
I actually doubt he managed to listen to my song more than once.
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Don't worry about it man. I'm having a good siesta every now and then aswell, combine it with a :hat and you're golden
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I did 10 writeups in like 90 minutes or so each, you should only need 2 hours max with how short yours are :neverusethis:
Two hours if he decides to listen to the songs again. Otherwise, make it 30 minutes. :neverusethis:
Probably a bit more than two hours - I'm relistening to all the songs while doing pretty long writeups that include a short note for each participant, meaning 10 farewells and 5 motivational speeches ;D
Don't worry about it man. I'm having a good siesta every now and then aswell, combine it with a :hat and you're golden
I don't smoke, so I'll stay ungolden :P
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I meant a hat
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remember to do the farewells last so you don't count the chickens before you've thrown them in the trash
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So far I've made them for those I'm sure are definitely gone :angel:
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So far I've made them for those I'm sure are definitely gone :angel:
Then just post mine and end my misery.
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Yep, farewell for you too. I'm kind of glad I won't have to participate in v3 whenever it comes in the next few years. :P
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where's my saor - farewell
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In round 5 :tup
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Parama - Dream Theater - My Last Farewell
Lol a Dream Theatre, cya
+0/5
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More like a -0/5 :neverusethis:
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I was literally going to make that post and then "btw new reply warning" :lol
I should listen to the Astonishing again, but I won't
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Got some power metal farewells for you, Sacul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d84cZivhT84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGB96Iv0ydM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cJ0j9MdQbM
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I should listen to the Astonishing again, but I won't
I won't even bother listening to it ever again, except for a couple tracks :P
Farewell might be one of the most cliched song titles ever, so I ain't checking any songs with that name, and definitely not if they're power metal tracks :angel:
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Your loss.
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If you say so :P
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actually, it's evermind's loss since he's being cut along with me :tup
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Oh yeah, I heard this Dream Theatre guys released a new album some time ago. Maybe I should check that out someday. ::)
Also, is youtube loading videos reaaaallly slooooooowwwww and constantly buffering for anyone else today? I'm literally downloading a game at 15 MB/s right now, but I can't even watch a single Youtube video :lol.
Hype for Results could be higher, since my chances of making the finals are purely theoretical.
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Oops, real life stuff and crap, couldn't finish them all and have classes now, so this is my only deadline.
More info on that after posting results, which should happen within the next 24 hours :tup
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the most exciting round yet
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Now playing: Dram That: Moment of Betrayal :'(
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I just don't understand
i just don't understand
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I'm banning you from title changes until results are posted
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You aren't my dark master :angry:
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Poop
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every thread change is an oceansize song i'm sending you if i somehow make it to the finals
so, if i'm not in the finals, feel free to keep changing the thread title i guess
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Ok, song writeups done, time for farewells and motivations. And dinner.
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yeah, farewell to you too
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Sacul, more so than any other roulette host I've seen, hypes the hell out of every single post.
I've not had blue balls this bad in years. Just get it over with, please!
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i already know my score his going to be 3/5 because sacul has the worst tastes
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ROUND 10 RESULTS!!!
So, a bit of a weak round I guess - although an improvement from the last one, it's far from the best. My guess is that some of you just sent whatever because it's the end. I've gotta admit I haven't been the best roulette host besides keeping a good pace - some of my writeups were pretty short and kind of useless, my posts overhyped, and my tastes still seem cryptic for some of you despite having written almost 5 pages on them :P
Enough mumbo-jumbo, have your results!
(Elite) Girl Band - Songs for Pears
I've been getting into experimental and all kinds of weird music this last year, so I've developed an strong appreciation for the unconventional. With a place in the finals assured, I guess you allowed yourself a little risk - yes, this and Fluffy's song are the two "fucked-up" tracks.
Sadly, this is a big fail in my eyes for several reasons: 1) I don't really like the approach the, uhm, singer takes. At all. Feels very amelodic, and although it fits the mood, I don't dig it. 2) It all feels very mechanic, and while I don't mind it at all on bands like Nine Inch Nails, it's different here, but not in a good way. 3) Although the guitars make some pretty interesting stuff, and they have an interesting sound to them, overall I feel this song goes nowhere.
All in all, a pretty curious effort that tries to push what's possible to make with rock instruments (I respect them for that) but just fails on the songwriting department. If this was the most accessible track, I don't want to imagine the others :lol 2.5/5
You ended up at #4 in my first roulette and now are at #3! Maybe if you play two roulettes more you'll end up first :neverusethis: Just kidding, you did pretty well overall with just a few duds, and are into the Finals!
(senecadawg2) GLORYHAMMER - The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee (Live)
I enjoy the Converge track you originally sent quite more :P
On a more serious note... well, it's kind of hard to be serious about this band, really - this is probably the cheesiest thing I've ever listened to, with those keyboards, a guitar solo, the dumb lyrics, the dull drumming. It's basically the genre summed up for me - maybe Evermind would love this :P My distaste for cheese has grown bigger with time, and although I may have enjoyed this two years ago, now I find myself watching the time for it to finish it. So, power metal is something I can't take seriously, and although I'm aware most of it isn't meant to, this is just ridiculous to the point of laughability with no taste. I'd rather listen to Ladybaby or something. 2.5/5
First of all, I apologise if some of my roulette behaviours and/or decisions quite bothered you - it wasn't really my intention, but I can see how I may have came across as rude or plain dumb. Sorry for that. Second, well... actually expected you to end up in the top 5 or even the top 3. Maybe you couldn't read that well into my tastes (they're all over the place, I admit), or just we aren't that compatible. Despite that, you sent some great stuff like The Antlers song, the Sylvan tune, and Like a Rolling Stone - I'll be looking into those albums. I'd like you to play in my v3 if you're around then, so you can have your vendetta. Thanks for playing!
(Evermind) Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys
So... I guess I only made it through this whole cheesefest only twice :lol
Sorry, but this just confirms Power Metal ain't my cup of tea like, at all. I added this album to the list because my theory that on any given genre, the big, iconic classics are way better than all those generic copies - maybe not the case here. So, to the song: it's just that kind of metal I can't get into for it doesn't resonate with me on any level. Not that there's anything wrong with this tune, because the singer is great and not that high-pitched (he reminds me to early James LaBrie), in general the track is well-built and while the guitar doesn't have the best production to it, it does its job well - but the song as a whole does nothing to me, thus I found myself skipping parts to parts whenever it came after the first listen. I wished I could be more specific, but can't find other explanation of why I'm not into this (besides the cheese), and probably never will. At least better than that Seventh Wonder track :P 3/5
Evermind, I realise you won my first roulette by taking advantage of that weird point system I had, and it helped you a lot (except in the last round with that Sonata Artica song), yet you won against Tyrias with the great Telegraph Road. On this v2, there is no point system - add to that the obligatory list songs, our not-so-compatible tastes, and you already got a pretty big challenge. For a good part of it, you got away with sending me some great tracks, but also some duds. You may not have retained your crown, but it was fun at least, wasn't it? Thanks for playing!
(Biskit) Explosions in the Sky - Last Known Surroundings
Oh, post-rock... a genre I feel I have enough of with GYBE! and Sigur Rós, for most other bands I've tried getting into I've found terribly generic, uninspired, and basically bad copies of Explosions in the Sky. And they weren't a good band to start with...
While this song has a nice atmosphere to it, and doesn't feel like it lasts too long, it's one of those tracks that leave little to no impressions on me - much like that Pearl Jam song, they have nothing I find any special. While I appreciate this isn't just one long buildup, it just goes nowhere, really - most post-rock it's just atmosphere and little songwriting, therefore it quite bores me with the exception of the two bands I mentioned earlier. I feel this is the highest score I can give to this track - nice, but unimpressive. 3/5
Oh dude, I'm sorry. I really wanted you to reach the finals, but you lost it with such little margin I almost feel bad about it. Funny how you sent me probably the best song of the roulette, but also some of the worst - quite similar to Parama. I know you may not have the biggest music library, and I kind of regret a bit doing those mini roulettes, but we had fun anyways! Thanks for playing ;D
(Tyrias) Clint Mansell - Death is The Road To Awe (The Fountain OST)
Your entry reminded me I wanted to watch this movie, and finally did so, but not before giving your song several listens. My impressions were that it was kind of a typical neoclassical soundtrack, but with some post-rock elements. While that would normally be a good formula, it falls flat imo. Maybe because it's Mogwai - I don't really like their music, as much as I've tried. Plus, this felt weird without context - what kind of scene does this epic piece illustrate?
So I watched the movie to see if my opinion changed. And... not really. I can see how it fits the movie and that particular part, which was kind of climatic I guess? But I don't feel it works out of that context, really. Not with like 3 buildups wtf. I mean, yeah it's pretty epic as a piece, but I don't really connect with it - felt the same with the movie's soundtrack. Because everybody mentioned it, I felt it would be awesome or something but most didn't sound really special or different to other modern OSTs imo. +3/5
How did you go from #2 in my v1 to bottom half on this one? And how come you're loving most of my championship submissions? These roulette things work in mysterious ways :P Well, even if you didn't do that well overall, you sent me some excellent stuff like Inhaler, and the Thrice and Caravan Palace tracks - I'll get to those albums soon!
(425) Spock's Beard - The Light (Live)
I quite like Neal Morse's work with Flying Colors and Transatlantic yet never felt compelled to check this band. So... it sounds like prog by the numbers, imitating 70s prog at times, but with a bit of a modern approach I guess? Nothing wrong per se with that, but I feel it's been done to death and no longer appeals to me. Like Fluffy said, I feel when listening to this song I have already heard everything I need to listen about his work. A bit of a shame, being such a prolific artist.
A pretty nice song that has some quite cool moments in which the guitars lead, but I don't really like some of the synth sound like that at ~8:45. Also, this song is all over the place, going from theme to theme. I normally wouldn't mid that approach if each section had enough time to develop a bit, and was awesome on its own. This just feels like it constantly jumps from idea to idea with no clear direction. For 16 minutes. I guess I deserve this :P +3/5
I feel you were probably the most affected by my roulette restrictions, but you still decided to play and sent me great music like Midnight (never imagined myself liking Coldplay :lol ), Heaven and Hell, and the Bon Iver song, even if it took ages to click. I hope you play in my v3 for a second chance!
(home) Amelie - La Valse D'Amelie (Piano)
Whys is that I received 3 soundtracks in the same round? :lol
At 2:40, I think it's the shortest song of the roulette - a pretty sweet piano piece. I'm a fucking sucker for piano-based music, but also quite picky about it, and more so if it's part of a soundtrack, for I feel most songs don't really work out of their original context. Or at least I need to experience them in that before listening to them on their own. Anyways, this is pretty nice, and passionate, and although I feel more development could have improved it, it's quite fine for it's length. Nothing too special, but very far from meh. 3.5/5
So after a brilliant beginning, you went downhill for almost 3 rounds then recovered in a magnificent way and managed to get into the Finals! Good luck!
(Shadow Ninja 2.0) Homestuck - Moonsetter
Wait, I think this is actually the shortest song of the roulette with just 2:20 mins. Kind of short writeup: pretty nice, charming song that wouldn't sound weird at all in an RPG. My knowledge of Homestuck is limited to knowing it's a pretty long webcomic with a huge fanbase - is it so dedicated they composed a soundtrack to it? Just curious.
All in all, a short sweet piece that would work great as soundtrack, but doesn't really stand on its own. 3.5/5
For half of the roulette you sent awesome stuff, and the rest just goods tracks or duds. I wonder if you self-sabotaged or something :P Anyway, there are already several albums you are making me want to check so I guess that's what matter in the end. Thanks for playing Mr Ninja!
(splent) The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds (7" Edit)
Pretty interesting song, based on a spoken-word sample of a girl talking about fluffy clouds or something - I have no clue what she's talking about, but damn her voice is bae. The electronic part is quite nice, maybe not extremely original, but they serve quite well as a background for the samples. There's nor much to say, I quite liked this song, didn't blow me away, will check this album, blahblahblah. 3.5/5
Oh dude, you started so well with La Villa Strangiato and B.O.B., then just went downhill and never recovered - don't worry, I'll check those albums. Roulettes can be tough, and mine wasn't an easy one - I hope you good luck in Bolsters' roulette!
(sneakyblueberry) JOANNA NEWSOM - Emily
This is both beautiful and a weird piece - the instrumentation is gorgeous, yet the structure is kind of all over the place. Probably due to the melodies, but had a tough time telling whether there were several movements and reprises, or if it jumped from idea to idea. After several listens, I feel it's the former. Still, it's all over the place. Also, I kind of got used to her voice, but it's a bit annoying when it gets harsh, for it sounds like she had flu or something. Still, a pretty enjoyable track. +3.5/5
Well, what can I say... that Frank Ocean song was excellent! But besides that, you've had more misses than hits - maybe our tastes aren't really that compatible. At least I can promise you to check lots of classic albums I have pensing ;) Thanks for playing!
(Bolsters) Broods - Superstar
I swear at first I thought it was Lorde who was singing, but maybe it's just the New Zealand accent. Well, both have pretty sexy voices so I don't mind the similarities! To the song: borderline with that crappy pop that it's so common on radio today. But I quite like this one more - nice atmosphere, great vocals, good production. Maybe not the most varied song on the round, but being under 4 mins and not repeating itself too much, it's quite good at what it attempts to do. Not much to say, other than I quite enjoyed it - not as much as some of your other pop tracks, but a pretty good entry anyways. 4/5
With very few duds, you managed not only to crack the top 5, but even surpass Elite, who had been dominating the second spot for most of the roulette! Despite me totally sucking in your roulette with the exception of two songs, I'm surprised how well you've been doing in mine - I guess I didn't read well into your tastes. Congratulations for the temporary silver medal and welcome to the finals!
(Train of Naught) Closure In Moscow - Happy Days
Ugh, I hope you can forgive the short writeup, for I don't have much to say about this track. Reminds me a bit of Arctic Monkeys, Foals, and Oasis. I quite like the vocals and the guitar work overall. But the production could be better - feels compressed and can barely hear some instruments at times. Overall, a pretty good alternative rock song - while it may not be creativity 101, it's quite enjoyable. 4/5
Despite being a bit inconsistent, I guess miracles happen for you managed to crack into the finals! :metal Your best song definitely was Entre 2 Mundos, so if you can find more stuff that basically screams Sacul, you should do fine.
(mikemangioy) Muse - Citizen Erased
Well, finally time to give Muse a listen I guess. I can definitely hear the Radiohead influences, so I'm glad they evolved from them to find their own sound. The song: pretty good, actually. I think this is easily your best song on the whole roulette - a pity it took you so long to 7send it :P
It's structured in an interested way, with that bombastic riff switched with ambient-ish sections and some ballad-like parts. Overall it's a mess, for they feel kind of disconnected, but I quite enjoy all of them. I also like the singer's voice and the guitar tone, yup. That weird "alarm" or whatever sound near the end didn't really distract me, unlike Parama :P 4/5
Where do I even begin? :lol I mean, dude, I fucking won your roulette and got you into David Maxim Micic and Destiny Potato, and other stuff, so at least I kind of expected you be middle of the pack here. Funny how your best song is your last one :P Thanks for playing!
(Parama) Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
Ohcrap, this is gonna be tough to write about, because there are many things going on here. So let's start from the beginning.
I *love* the intro with the violin, and when drums appear at 2:20, I'm in total love with the track - the string melodies are magnificent and the rest of the band quite great. So up until the first 6 mins everything is awesome. Then the violin kind of disappears and I'm left with the heavy drumming, and the singer appears out of nowhere in an awkward way - feels like he had been singing before or something, but got used to this thing. So from there it kind of goes ok - the song ain't as awesome as before, but far from bad. Then growls followed by a short breakdown, just to jump straight to shrieks (my least favorite part of the song), but then the violin reappears along with the growls and they make a beautiful contrast. So bad it didn't last longer, for while I don't mind the singer, I quite prefer the violin. And it's not the epic climatic ending I kind of expected, but it's fine for me.
So I find it kind of hard to rate this song - it starts amazing, and stays amazing for the first half. The second one goes a bit downhill, and while it doesn't have moments I actively disliked, some of them didn't do much to me. But the very ending was nice at least. +4/5
So... like the Biskit, you sent some of the best, but also some of the worst of the roulette. But since you don't seen to care, I can only guess your tastes are pretty awful :P Thanks for playing!
(Fluffy Lothario) Fire! Orchestra - Enter, Part One
Your song was one of the two "fucked-up" tracks, and unlike the other, this one is amazing. Like I said on that write-up, I've become more interested in experimental music. But not everything is gold - some artists I respect for their endeavours more than actually liking their music. This is a case were both intersect in a curious, even if weird way.
So, to the song - it's fucking weird. Vocals are creepy, the sax player is fucking insane, and the rest of the musicians are excellent. I really like the flow this track has, how they all get along making this. A remarkable moment is the female vocal performance on the second half - pure lunacy. Although it's one of the longest tracks on the round, it really didn't feel like it. I don't have much to say, other than this was full of great moments. Btw, our secret player submitted something from this band's first album in round one - I told him "nothing generic" and he looked straight into his avant-garde folder :lol So yeah, I can definitely see how "along with the Swans, these guys are about the most awesome band on the planet at the moment." 4.5/5
I dunno how many roulettes you've played, but man, you were on fire on this one - from the beginning you got a good grasp of what I liked and sent according to it, with some little interesting experiments here and there.I think you deserve your #1 spot, and on any other roulette you'd have already been given the crown - but that ain't how we do things here. Welcome to the finals.
Standings
41 - Fluffy Lothario
+39.5 - Bolsters
39 - Elite
+38.5 - home
+37.5 - Train of Naught
37.5 - Biskit
37.5 - Parama
+37 - Shadow Ninja 2.0
(37 - Symphony)
+35.5 - Evermind
+34.5 - senecadawg2
35.5 - Tyrias
35 - 425
34.5 - splent
+33.5 - Sneakyblueberry
31 - mikemangioy
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To all of you, regardless of your score, thanks for playing! You have showed me at least one great song and artist, and for that I'm grateful. A v3 will happen in two years or three, so if you're still around, you're invited to play! I promise no list and baits that time :angel:
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Finals
As I said in the OP, there's an EP round for the top 5 players to determine the winner. Rules are the following:
- Minimum of 3 songs.
- Minimum EP length of 15 mins.
- Maximum of 15 mins per artist.
- The recommended maximum length for the EP is ~30 mins, the absolute maximum is 35 mins.
- Flow will be taken into account, but it will have a small influence in the score (more on this later)
- When you send it, include a tracklist with the song names (duh) and the track lengths.
- A Spotify playlist is preferred since I do most of my listening on my PC and phone. If you can't use Spotify, or some songs aren't available there, send me the files of the whole EP
or the missing songs. If you can't in any of both ways, give me the tracklist and I'll get the files or whatever is needed. - You have 72 hours to send after round 10 results are posted.
Scoring
So I didn't want something that would make Fluffy the only winner even if he screwed up, making this final round pointless. But even if his EP sucked, it'd be unfair to make him lose right away without taking the first 10 rounds into consideration, so a "best EP wins" wouldn't work. Ultimately, I've crafted a middle-of-the-road system, so that if he fails, home and ToN might have a chance to steal the crown if they shine, or tie the first place at least. Elite and Bolsters can also take the first spot if they do well ofc. So, how your EP shall be scored:
- Since not all EPs have the same amount of songs, a way of "normalizing" was needed, so I'll individually score your songs out of 5, multiply each by 4, and take the mean of that, so the EP score will be out of 20.
- Flow will be scored out of 5 in positive integers, and added to the previous score. This takes into account how well songs transition into each other, and how it all works as a single piece overall.
- The bottom player's score will act as the zero or base for the "roulette points" (RP) - it's the difference between a given person's score and the player's at #5. This means ToN will have zero RPs, and Fluffy 3.25.
So the score should look like:
Score = EP average out of 20 + flow + RP
Thus, the maximum score you can get on this round is 25+RP.
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by a whole .25 points, great :tup
and i didn't even get a farewell post, awesome
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Oops, fixed :facepalm:
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For half of the roulette you sent awesome stuff, and the rest just goods tracks or duds. I wonder if you self-sabotaged or something :P Anyway, there are already several albums you are making me want to check so I guess that's what matter in the end. Thanks for playing Mr Ninja!
It's more that I just tend to send songs randomly with no real strategy, and sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. It's probably best that I didn't make it to the finals anyway, since I hadn't even started to think about making an EP. :lol Also, thanks for having me! It's been fun.
My knowledge of Homestuck is limited to knowing it's a pretty long webcomic with a huge fanbase - is it so dedicated they composed a soundtrack to it? Just curious.
Homestuck is kind of a mix of a lot of different mediums. Some sections take the form of animations, and those animations have music. There's a group of musicians who compose a lot of songs for Homestuck (like 15+ albums now I think, released on the Homestuck bandcamp page), and sometimes Andrew (the writer/artist) chooses one of those songs to feature in an animation.
Also read Homestuck, because it is awesome, and actually seems like the kind of thing you'd be into. And because it's awesome.
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no sacul, it is your tastes that are awful
anyways good luck to fluffy on holding his top spot
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First you said:
Enough mumbo-jumbo
Then you said:
it's kind of hard to be serious about this band... the dumb lyrics, the dull drumming... power metal is something I can't take seriously, and although I'm aware most of it isn't meant to, this is just ridiculous to the point of laughability with no taste. I'd rather listen to Ladybaby or something.
And then you said:
I'd like you to play in my v3 if you're around then, so you can have your vendetta.
So it doesn't matter what you'd like--unless you want to pay me or something, I'm not going to open the thread.
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:sadpanda:
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for what it's worth i don't understand the appeal of power metal either, but mostly because i find it samey and boring
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Hahaha, Gloryhammer in this roulette was bound to be a disaster. Nice one Nelson :tup
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for what it's worth i don't understand the appeal of power metal either, but mostly because i find it samey and boring
That's fair. You're tastes are valid. I don't like a lot of power metal, myself. But that wasn't really the point
I wasn't going to participate in this roulette until Lucas asked me to. I just wish I'd taken the warning above his avatar more seriously--he's not joking about being a music elitist.
The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee is just my way of sticking the middle finger, Ruslan gets it :lol
Eta: And I know this comes across as the whining of someone who doesn't take a loss well, which is partially true (I am whining). But damn me to hell if I don't normally enjoy losing more than this.
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but you'd play in my second roulette, right? :corn
which will probably be sometime in 2017, 'cause hot damn even with how much music i'm getting and keeping myself from exploring new bands for a while i still have a ton of stuff to get to
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The Unicorn Invasion of Dundee is just my way of sticking the middle finger, Ruslan gets it :lol
I did get that, but still wanted to give my opinion on it anyways :P
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but you'd play in my second roulette, right? :corn
which will probably be sometime in 2017, 'cause hot damn even with how much music i'm getting and keeping myself from exploring new bands for a while i still have a ton of stuff to get to
If it's a good time and I'm not too busy, I'd probably play
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EP rules added to the post after results. Please take your time, for this is your very last chance to win this, my finalists.
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EP rules added to the post after results. Please take your time, for this is your very last chance to win this, my finalists.
Sent. :rollin
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This time I won't check anything until I have them all, so you're free to resubmit in case you regret something or your EP doesn't follow the rules :P
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One of my artists clocks in at 15:36, but I didn't think that would bother you. Let me know if it does.
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2.5 out of 5 :lol
Yes, I did take a 'risk' there, although there was basically no way I would not make the Finals (unless I scored like a 0.5 and the rest score a 4 or higher). The song is indeed fucked up, and it didn't pay off well (it's called Pears of Lunch by the way). I'm gathering tracks for the EP Round now and will send them when ready.
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:metal :metal :metal :metal
I did think I had a chance of making the finals when sending that song, but no way I thought it was possible after the re-listening adjustments. I think you'll really like this album though, it's very Mars Volta-y (this song probably has the least Mars Volta resemblance out of all of them).
So, a couple of questions here. In the final round, does everyone start with a clean slate? Or do you count upwards from our current scores. This is a pretty big deal because if fluffly is already +3 points ahead I have to take some risks and stuff. Also, will you post the scoring system before the deadline to send the EP's? I might want to wait for that to be sure, I have already thought about the EP for a bit, but not very seriously because I didn't think I'd make the finals.
Just thought of this too: How do you handle 2 minute interlude tracks/tracks to connect other songs? I have one or two of those in mind but I don't know if you can score them properly compared to actual songs.
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Wow, nice that I made it to the finals! Is it possible to send files via the forum? Or should I upload them somewhere or something?
By the way the composer of the track I sent is Yann Tiersen (instead of Amelie :p), I probably like this song too much because I have played it way too often on piano :azn:
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(sneakyblueberry) JOANNA NEWSOM - Emily
This is both beautiful and a weird piece - the instrumentation is gorgeous, yet the structure is kind of all over the place. Probably due to the melodies, but had a tough time telling whether there were several movements and reprises, or if it jumped from idea to idea. After several listens, I feel it's the former. Still, it's all over the place. Also, I kind of got used to her voice, but it's a bit annoying when it gets harsh, for it sounds like she had flu or something. Still, a pretty enjoyable track. +3.5/5
Well, what can I say... that Frank Ocean song was excellent! But besides that, you've had more misses than hits - maybe our tastes aren't really that compatible. At least I can promise you to check lots of classic albums I have pensing ;) Thanks for playing!
ahaha, that's a score better than I thought you'd give it! glad you enjoyed it somewhat, although your criticism on the structure isn't warranted imo.
the song sounds through composed at first, but it follows a set structure, that sort of shrinks. if you gave each section a letter it'd be: (A-B-C)-(D)-(A-B-C)-(A-B)-(D).
thanks for having me in your roulette! even tho it was super frustrating @ times :lol :tup
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(Fluffy Lothario) Fire! Orchestra - Enter, Part One
Your song was one of the two "fucked-up" tracks, and unlike the other, this one is amazing. Like I said on that write-up, I've become more interested in experimental music. But not everything is gold - some artists I respect for their endeavours more than actually liking their music. This is a case were both intersect in a curious, even if weird way.
So, to the song - it's fucking weird. Vocals are creepy, the sax player is fucking insane, and the rest of the musicians are excellent. I really like the flow this track has, how they all get along making this. A remarkable moment is the female vocal performance on the second half - pure lunacy. Although it's one of the longest tracks on the round, it really didn't feel like it. I don't have much to say, other than this was full of great moments. Btw, our secret player submitted something from this band's first album in round one - I told him "nothing generic" and he looked straight into his avant-garde folder :lol So yeah, I can definitely see how "along with the Swans, these guys are about the most awesome band on the planet at the moment." 4.5/5
I dunno how many roulettes you've played, but man, you were on fire on this one - from the beginning you got a good grasp of what I liked and sent according to it, with some little interesting experiments here and there.I think you deserve your #1 spot, and on any other roulette you'd have already been given the crown - but that ain't how we do things here. Welcome to the finals.
And for the first time, I top a round. :lol
I'm curious as to what else Mr Mystery Player sent if he has Fire! Orchestra on hand.
I could write pages about F! O, they are mindblowing. They're one of those acts like The Mars Volta or the Swans that are just wiping their asses with the rulebook. Oh, and yeah, their singers are nuts. The last 1/4 of their first album, Exit!, is unlistenable even to me, as the singer goes a bit too mental (and there's not enough going on musically). On Enter, it's more moderate insanity spread out across the entire album.
They have a new album scheduled for the end of April, by the way.
If you like that kind of sax playing (which is basically just free jazz sax), you should check out Coltrane's later albums (like Ascension and Meditations), Pharoah Sanders (Karma, Black Unity, and he appeared on Jazz Composers Orchestra, as well as those Coltrane albums), Albert Ayler (Spirits) and Eric Dolphy (Out to Lunch).
This is that sax player, Mat Gustafsson, with a different band called The Thing, plus a guest sax player from another free jazz band from the '80s I've never heard of, but are apparently great. I didn't like what I checked out of The Thing's studio stuff, but this gig is like tapping the fucking source, pure absolute fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsQYrQ3XvHU
My taste is fairly weird, so I don't play in tons of roulettes because the stuff I would send ain't gonna appeal to a lot of people. Just recently is the first time I've done any in years.
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Well my life is ruined. Thanks Lucas. I don't know if I'll ever be able to talk to u again.
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Sent! Along with a wall of text.
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So, a couple of questions here. In the final round, does everyone start with a clean slate? Or do you count upwards from our current scores. This is a pretty big deal because if fluffly is already +3 points ahead I have to take some risks and stuff. Also, will you post the scoring system before the deadline to send the EP's? I might want to wait for that to be sure, I have already thought about the EP for a bit, but not very seriously because I didn't think I'd make the finals.
Just thought of this too: How do you handle 2 minute interlude tracks/tracks to connect other songs? I have one or two of those in mind but I don't know if you can score them properly compared to actual songs.
I'm still constructing the scoring system in a way that allows everyone to win but still counting the little advantage you had with the position in the top 5. Yes, I'll post it this weekend. Well, I'll individually rank the songs, and an interlude will receive a good score if it really works as such - if not, probably a low score.
Wow, nice that I made it to the finals! Is it possible to send files via the forum? Or should I upload them somewhere or something?
By the way the composer of the track I sent is Yann Tiersen (instead of Amelie :p ), I probably like this song too much because I have played it way too often on piano :azn:
Via PM should be fine. I exactly know that feeling, some pieces are way more moving when played by yourself.
the song sounds through composed at first, but it follows a set structure, that sort of shrinks. if you gave each section a letter it'd be: (A-B-C)-(D)-(A-B-C)-(A-B)-(D).
That makes sense, but I struggled to tell them apart so it all kind of blurred, but it's still pretty nice :P
If you like that kind of sax playing (which is basically just free jazz sax), you should check out Coltrane's later albums (like Ascension and Meditations), Pharoah Sanders (Karma, Black Unity, and he appeared on Jazz Composers Orchestra, as well as those Coltrane albums), Albert Ayler (Spirits) and Eric Dolphy (Out to Lunch).
This is that sax player, Mat Gustafsson, with a different band called The Thing, plus a guest sax player from another free jazz band from the '80s I've never heard of, but are apparently great. I didn't like what I checked out of The Thing's studio stuff, but this gig is like tapping the fucking source, pure absolute fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsQYrQ3XvHU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsQYrQ3XvHU)
Noting all of this :tup
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Sounds good :tup I doubt I will actually win this, but I'm pretty much 100% sure that there's nothing I can add or cut out to make it better, so I'm satisfied with the one I just sent, no short intro tracks in the end.
If my calculations are correct, there's a good 60% chance of Dutch victory, bring it on home boys! :metal
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Btw, if somebody wanted to send a few tracks you didn't end up using in the roulette, now's the time to do so :P
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when I get home I'm sending you oceansize and songs that have growls during soft parts
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Btw, if somebody wanted to send a few tracks you didn't end up using in the roulette, now's the time to do so :P
Did you check out those other songs I sent you with the round 10 submission?
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(425) Spock's Beard - The Light (Live)
I quite like Neal Morse's work with Flying Colors and Transatlantic yet never felt compelled to check this band. So... it sounds like prog by the numbers, imitating 70s prog at times, but with a bit of a modern approach I guess? Nothing wrong per se with that, but I feel it's been done to death and no longer appeals to me. Like Fluffy said, I feel when listening to this song I have already heard everything I need to listen about his work. A bit of a shame, being such a prolific artist.
I figured this would be your reaction. I feel like you could summarize a lot of division between prog fans just by asking whether you're more of a fan of Neal Morse or Steven Wilson. Neal doesn't change styles much, staying mostly instead in one moderately accessible style that emphasizes positivity and epic-ness, writing consistently strong music in that style, while Steven switches up styles all the time and sometimes gets into some pretty weird and dark stuff. I'm more of a Neal fan than a Steven fan, in that I like just strong melodic music and don't mind if an artist sits in a pretty similar and well-trodden stylistic space, so long as they maintain a really high level of quality in that space. And obviously you're more of a Steven fan, probably because you like experimentation and doing different things and you get bored if an artist sits in familiar stylistic territory.
I don't know, that's just a thought I had about prog fans and why I'm totally not surprised that you aren't crazy about Neal Morse.
Also, this song is all over the place, going from theme to theme. I normally wouldn't mid that approach if each section had enough time to develop a bit, and was awesome on its own. This just feels like it constantly jumps from idea to idea with no clear direction. For 16 minutes. I guess I deserve this :P +3/5
Yeah, and see, this is exactly how I felt about this song the first four or five times I listened to it. Eventually it just clicked and it all fell into place for me. So I might suggest giving it another try down the road, especially if you find yourself singing "I. AM. THE CATFISH MAN."
I feel you were probably the most affected by my roulette restrictions, but you still decided to play and sent me great music like Midnight (never imagined myself liking Coldplay :lol ), Heaven and Hell, and the Bon Iver song, even if it took ages to click. I hope you play in my v3 for a second chance!
Honestly, just the fact that you listed Midnight right after "great music" makes it worth it for me. Glad you liked a few things, enjoyed playing this! We'll see about v3 in 2025 when that happens... depends on if I have enough music by then. :P
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when I get home I'm sending you oceansize and songs that have growls during soft parts
Don't :lol
I have Oceansize on my EP
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okay, pm me which song then :P
maybe I'll just send more growls over quiet parts instead
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I'll get to these songs after the finals so send oceansize if you want, Parama :tup
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Btw, if somebody wanted to send a few tracks you didn't end up using in the roulette, now's the time to do so :P
I had planned to send this song in the EP round, assuming I got to it, but once I was constructing a playlist, I realised you can't really get poppy jazzy Swedish rap to gel with other songs. However, it's maybe the coolest song ever written, so go nuts.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sqwfDNzTYks
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^ This is cool! Hot damn.
How long do you think you'll take for this round Lucas? I'm hyped as fuck.
If that MOVITS! song is any indication of the quality of Fluffy's music(, shame on me for not checking out more of the songs sent in this roulette than I have,) I'll gladly accept the second place.
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You'll have to do with third place at least then.
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Third place? No way in hell man, Slipknot in an EP is bound to go smoothly :neverusethis:
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How long do you think you'll take for this round Lucas? I'm hyped as fuck.
Well, I'll start listening once I get all the EPs, which are due tomorrow. Then, because of the epic length of them all, it should normally take me around a week, but I'm travelling to Bs As this Monday evening because of SW's gig next day, and coming back the other, and also getting back home for Easter and... I'd say no more than two weeks.
Don't worry, I'll post tidbits and other crap to keep this thread alive :P
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^ This is cool! Hot damn.
How long do you think you'll take for this round Lucas? I'm hyped as fuck.
If that MOVITS! song is any indication of the quality of Fluffy's music(, shame on me for not checking out more of the songs sent in this roulette than I have,) I'll gladly accept the second place.
Yeah, Movits! are quite snazzy. I should have sent the damn song in the regular rounds. Or, you know, come to think of it, maybe it would have worked between the second and third tracks on the EP...
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Well you still have time to modify your EP if you want :P
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See, I didn’t think that because I added quite a poppy song at the last minute, Movits! might not be totally out of place.
I want to say yes, but now I’ve already gotten feedback on it, is that fair?
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I haven't listened to the song so no feedback from me, and I ain't letting ToN's opinion bias me (sorry :-[ ), so if you want, you can include it.
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People do send songs to multiple roulettes and all...
I'll add it, but if anyone has an objection, feel free to kick and scream and Sacul can go back to the unamended EP.
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Totally fair dude, go with it.
I personally won't change a thing because my EP is very confined to a theme sorta, there's nothing I can replace/add and not take away from the overall value. Maybe it would score better because individual songs will probably weigh more than flow and stuff, but I'm going to keep this one as it is.
So it's only home until you have them all I assume?
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I'm not going to change anything in my EP because if I do it once, I'll keep doing it. :lol I just have to stick to my guns and hope for the best.
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I'll send my EP later today, I want to listen to it once to see if it flows okay. I can't figure out how to send files though, there isn't an attach file button right? Could I perhaps send a youtube playlist?
I'll add it, but if anyone has an objection, feel free to kick and scream and Sacul can go back to the unamended EP.
That's completely fine :azn:
How long do you think you'll take for this round Lucas? I'm hyped as fuck.
Lucas - Sacul, wow things are making sense :omg:
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I mixed my songs into one .flac file with audacity (thanks Evermind :P) and then uploaded it using MEGA.nz (https://mega.nz/). You can use this to upload the separate songs too though.
If you've uploaded it just right click it to view the link. From there you can copy the link + code and send it to Sacul. If this is all too vague I guess a Spotify or Youtube playlist works too.
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I mixed my songs into one .flac file with audacity (thanks Evermind :P) and then uploaded it using MEGA.nz (https://mega.nz/). You can use this to upload the separate songs too though.
If you've uploaded it just right click it to view the link. From there you can copy the link + code and send it to Sacul. If this is all too vague I guess a Spotify or Youtube playlist works too.
Thanks that should work! :azn:
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So it's only home until you have them all I assume?
:lol
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Sent. I think I screwed this up a little but there are at least some songs in the EP that I'm quite sure you'll enjoy :azn:
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Sent. I think I screwed this up a little but there are at least some songs in the EP that I'm quite sure you'll enjoy :azn:
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Sent. I think I screwed this up a little but there are at least some songs in the EP that I'm quite sure you'll enjoy :azn:
I probably would go as far as saying I wouldn't send any of these songs in a regular round. They're not nearly as good separately so I really have to nail the flow score I guess.
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I'm going to win v3
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I hope you do :smiley:
So, I've already updated the post (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45491.msg2125902#msg2125902) (and added it to the OP) concerning how the scoring system will work (might modify it before results, but I highly doubt it). Although one player has to modify its EP, listening starts now :corn
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Guess who has to resend ::)
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Was it you maybe? Sacul loves Oceansize so I'm not shocked.
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Yeah, the Oceansize track had to go :lol
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You're probably better off then :tup
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I hope so. I like my EP.
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again, which oceansize :tup
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I sent Massive Bereavement from the Effloresce CD. Apparently, the whole CD was banned. As well as two other bands I sent (At the Drive-In and Shining). But these last two weren't mentioned anywhere, so I couldn't have known.
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that's a pretty weird choice tbh :lol
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They're in the list, scored :P
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yes, the 2000-album list that everyone has memorized
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Are you implying nobody did that? :sadpanda:
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At the drive-in are sick. I might go see them next week if I have the time. Even if I think Omar and Cedric were both far superior on TMV.
Sounds like you went with quite the heavy EP rich :tup an option I considered too, though I don't think I'd have enough interesting heavy music.
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Mine is a little heavy, yes, but not really all-out heavy. I have a laid-backish start and ending. The EP is quite similar to the one I sent in Parama's, actually.
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you sent an obnoxious beardfish song? :P
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At the drive-in are sick. I might go see them next week if I have the time.
Jim Ward isn't playing anymore :lol what a trainwreck
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you sent an obnoxious beardfish song? :P
They're banned :P
Btw, already listened to everything at least once. Two of these EPs sound promising, the rest are kinda disappointing, but each has at least an amazing song. Let's see how this goes from here :corn
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Interesting.
Mine isn't disappointing so I can't possibly see how someone other than me would think that.
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Two of these EPs sound promising, the rest are kinda disappointing
Yeah that's probably me.
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Don't worry, I'll post tidbits and other crap to keep this thread alive :P
:loser:
I'm really not sure, but mine could very well be the disappointing one, not enough harsh vocals (one word, to be exact). Too bad Machine Head was banned, would've closed the fucker off with "RELEASE THE WOLVES!!!!" otherwise :metal
I probably like my EP more than I should, must've listened to it once a day at least since I made it.
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It's been a wild week, and have barely had the chance to enter DTF, but now everything should go back to normal - expect tidbits this Tuesday, semi-reveal of the tracklists on Wednesday, a more interesting reveal the next day, and RESULTS THIS FRIDAY.
Let the hype begin... Again.
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I probably like my EP more than I should, must've listened to it once a day at least since I made it.
I'm the same with all of my EPs. Not sure if this is related to the fact I've never won a single roulette where the EP round was hosted. :lol
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Not too sure about some things in mine.
I think the first three tracks will do well enough, I can't see them being hated.
Track #4 could be hit or miss.
Track #5 was probably a big mistake, I can see this scoring low.
Track #6 is the climax of my EP, according to our host each EP has at least one great song, I think this is mine.
Track #7 I'm not really sure about, I mostly added it because I didn't think the ending to Track #6 was suitable for the closing of the EP. This song is a good closer I think and I had enough room for it, though I'm not really sure what Sacul's reaction will be.
I do believe I will score well regarding flow.
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I don't have any idea how he'll like it, could very well be one of the disappointments.
For some reason I think he'll really like my 2nd song though it could be a big miss aswell.
My 4th song is the climax of the EP, and while not my favorite song of the bunch, the chorus is definitely my favorite moment of the EP. I'm starting to get my doubts though as I realize the chorus sounds very much like something that could be on a Coheed and Cambria song.
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I don't have any idea how he'll like it, could very well be one of the disappointments.
+1
The second song on my EP is from a band Sacul gave a low score in his roullete, the third is on of the most epic songs by the same band, I really want you to like them Sacul :p I am ending with three songs almost no one seems to like, but I really love em :lol
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Well, everyone can sample my EP from the song on the last page.
Mine has no metal. It's all pop and soft rock kind of stuff.
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I'm interested to see how that Movits! song is going to fit in an EP :lol I thought it was a really cool and unusual type of song, but as of now I can't see how you follow up a song like that, I guess we'll see. I will leave it to Sacul to reveal the partial tracklist, I think the only thing I've revealed so far is that there's a Slipknot song in there.
At the end of this I will likely check out the other EP's.
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Without giving too much away, my EP has two "sides", and they're fairly distinct from each other. The Movits! track's at the end of the first half, so the EP completely changes tack after that. Otherwise, you're right, it'd be damn hard to get the next track not to clash horribly.
If there was a track on my EP that I would say is a fairly safe bet to do well, it'd be the last, I guess. But who knows, Sacul could love or totally not love anything on there.
Now seeing how he responds to Slipknot, THAT will be interesting.
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My EP doesn't exist because it's too awesome for Sacul.
:|
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Tidbits time! Most writeups are one-sentence stuff by now, which I plan on expanding later for results, but these are the most interesting ones.
Yeah, that's a pretty epic chorus.
This song is all over the place if you listen closely, but it just works. Damn it does.
This has a haunting atmosphere, but I'm afraid it isn't as good songwriting-wise.
This... fucking destroys all my biases against this artist. Wow. Probably the best song of the round, and among the best in the roulette.
Well, this is some pretty nice piano indeed!
I struggled to difference this one song and the following, for they feel very similar, and while that wouldn't be a problem if they were awesome, they sadly aren't.
This sounds like some generic alternative metal [...], nothing remarkable imo.
Sadly, your EP goes downhill after it.
While I appreciate the mix of genres and styles here... I just don't dig this, really. I mean, while it's enjoyable, I find no strong connection between this and me.
Just... no. I don't dig [genre] at all, and this is no exception. The only bits I enjoy are the last ones, for they are acoustic and atmospheric, but nothing special in the end.
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As usual I don't have a clue if any of those are mine.
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There's at least one tidbit per EP, so :corn
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There's at least one tidbit per EP, so :corn
I figured there would be.
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I'm afraid the last one is mine, but I really hope #4 is instead, for that same song :lol
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There isn't a second of my EP that is acoustic, or alternative metal, but nor is there an artist that Sacul would've had a pre-established bias about, that I know of.
So I call these two.
I struggled to difference this one song and the following, for they feel very similar, and while that wouldn't be a problem if they were awesome, they sadly aren't.
Sadly, your EP goes downhill after it.
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This... fucking destroys all my biases against this artist. Wow. Probably the best song of the round, and among the best in the roulette.
i hope this is oceansize
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My Oceansize song was rejected, so unless somebody else sent them as well, I don't think so.
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My EP
Too much (genre). The first song was OK though.
1/5
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This... fucking destroys all my biases against this artist. Wow. Probably the best song of the round, and among the best in the roulette.
Slipknot? Don't destroy the bias man, they only have a handful of songs like this..
This has a haunting atmosphere, but I'm afraid it isn't as good songwriting-wise.
Nevermind, you probably hated it anyways
I feel like the first 5 could all be mine but probably only one of them is. Maybe the epic chorus is my fourth song?
And I have a bad feeling that the generic alternative metal one is my third song.
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This has a haunting atmosphere, but I'm afraid it isn't as good songwriting-wise.
Well, this is some pretty nice piano indeed!
This sounds like some generic alternative metal [...], nothing remarkable imo.
This could be respectively about the 4th, 5th and 1st songs
Sadly, your EP goes downhill after it.
Really no idea what you think of the last songs, they remind me a little bit of Neutral Milk Hotel, but I can completely understand it if you don't like them :biggrin:
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I sent Girl Band because he likes Neutral Milk Hotel and it gave me the lowest score in the roulette. Girl Band are far, far better than Neutral Milk Hotel though.
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I sent Girl Band because he likes Neutral Milk Hotel and it gave me the lowest score in the roulette. Girl Band are far, far better than Neutral Milk Hotel though.
I just listened to Pears for Lunch and I haven't made up my mind about the music yet, but that video is just genious! I'll listen to an album sometime :)
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Good!
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I love NMH for the raw passion, but Girl Band are pure lunacy, and not in a way I probably enjoy :lol
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thought you liked swans :neverusethis:
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I do :metal
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semi-reveal of the tracklists on Wednesday
>:(
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Sorry guys, there's been some personal stuff that's been up with me these days so didn't even listen to any of the EPs, but I promisessomething will be revealed today at least.
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something will be revealed today at least.
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I have the same socks.
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I'm not bothered, take your time.
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As promised, some revealing today! Every album to which the submissions belong to, in random order. Have fun guessing who sent what! :corn
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Hey, somebody sent Nothing More. Didn't know anyone else around here listened to 'em.
Kudos also to Kimbra, Bungle, Deafheaven and Silverchair.
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Well, I know which ones I sent at least. :lol
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I have never seen a single one of those album covers :angel:
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i should probably revisit sean ashe's album, i remember enjoying it but not enough to revisit it
+1 to kimbra, i'm gonna be mad if it wasn't one of the better songs
i recognize deafheaven and destrier but i have neither, and i didn't even listen to the mr. bungle album
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Sean Ashe is mine. Wanted something chill to set the mood and this really fit IMO
I pretty much know none of the albums other than mine. And that Slipknot image is not an album cover :lol maybe of some limited deluxe edition of some sorts but not the one I have.
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I pretty much know none of the albums other than mine.
Ditto. Mr Bungle, Syd Barrett, and Philip Glass. That's about it.
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Okay I'm going to desperately attempt to fill in the blanks based on some blind assumptions and some a bit more accurate guesses:
Asymmetry is home
Florence + The Machine is fluffy
I don't know the first thing about 'Haamoja' but the cover looks like it's something fucked up and I'm guessing Elite
Mr. Bungle I'm calling is Elite aswell
I've tried this Deafheaven album but I didn't last very long, probably Elite aswell
Movits! is Fluffy for obvious reasons
Bolsters' tastes are all over the place so I wouldn't know anything for sure, but Blackmill is amazing and seems like most likely Bolsters for some reason
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Bolsters' tastes are all over the place so I wouldn't know anything for sure, but Blackmill is amazing and seems like most likely Bolsters for some reason
:tup although I'm regretting sending those songs to Sacul.
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wasting your good stuff on this loser :neverusethis:
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Hey, somebody sent Nothing More. Didn't know anyone else around here listened to 'em.
Hey, I didn't knew anyone else around here listened to them either! :azn:
Asymmetry is home
You can't prove anything
As for guessing, I don't really recognise the other albums. I guess Train of Naught sent Slipknot :p
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I see all my albums :biggrin:
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As for guessing, I don't really recognise the other albums. I guess Train of Naught sent Slipknot :p
Must be a mindreader :lol
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As for guessing, I don't really recognise the other albums. I guess Train of Naught sent Slipknot :p
Must be a mindreader :lol
:hat
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I believe it was home I saw some months back pimping Syd Barrett, so I assume that album's his too.
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:2metal: :hefdaddy :tup :D :tup :hefdaddy :2metal:
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:facepalm:
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WHY U DO THIS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peA6xbaBMBk) :'(
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I mean it was obvious all along
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Some will say they never saw it... coming
:vomitard:
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I knew it was April Fool's. I win, clearly.
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HOW COULD YOU PREPARE
FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NEXT
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ROULETTE TWIST:
EVERYONE HAS WON
RRROOOOOOOAAAAAAARR
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:lol
Finishing writeups now, but will post results tomorrow after doing one last listen just to be 100% sure.
Also, please vote in the final, very important new poll :angel:
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train of salvation
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I will abstain from voting, as every candidate is a lying scumbag, accepts donations from the oil industry, and/or has an ugly face.
Preparing to lose after holding lead (sometimes tied) since Round 3 in 3, 2...
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Wanted to vote for Fluffy Lothario but didn't saw his name so went with Kevin Moore. :coolio
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Jesus is-a-coming and he wants Moore!
Homeless are-a-coming and they want Moore!
Christians are-a-coming and they want Moore, they say:
MOORE MOORE MOORE MOORE!
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By the way, you are completely neclegting your first poll, it should be Kevin fucking Moore :p
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Get down on the floor, put your hands up for our Lord
His gospel’s made of lithium and silicon
yes i got a vote. Oh nevermind that's Pain of Naught, bummer
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Ok folks, this is it: the Finals results. It's been quite a journey, hasn't it? Both frustrating and funny, but I don't regret having 15 players - each of you has shown me some great stuff, some more than others. I won't do another roulette in the next two years with all this music and some discoveries I'll make on my own. All in all, thanks for playing and being patient for results!
Now, to what you've been waiting for. I wanted to add some suspense so I'll only reveal each player's result in ascending order, one per post, so that means...
5
home - The Effervescing EP
1. Nothing More - Christ Copyright
This sounds like some generic alternative metal with djent and some electronics, nothing remarkable imo. Basically this - didn't find anything worth mentioning about this song, sorry. 2.5/5
2. Karnivool - Eidolon
So you wanted me to like this band? Well, to be honest, these roulette songs have convinced me they aren't for me. I mean, I enjoy these tracks, but I don't feel the urge to listen to any more of this band. I can't exactly pin out why, but their style ain't my cuppa tea. 3/5
3. Karnivool - Alpha Omega (Ghost City Sessions)
I swear this one flows so well from the previous one I thought they were a single track at first lol. Basically the same as the other, only a bit better. I enjoy how this song gets heavier at times tho. +3/5
4. Wrongkong - Radiohits for Idiots (Ghost City Sessions)
Ok this is a pretty unusual song, and a different track from the others. Starts a bit odd with those old organ sounds, but then build ups on atmosphere, adding layers of pads and guitars, resulting into something similar to 90s Porcupine Tree. And I quite enjoy it - great outro. 4/5
5. Philip Glass - Etude No.6 (played by Maki Namekawa)
Yup, another great piano piece. I think Nekov sent me the Opening of Glassworks, and although I enojy that recording, didn't prompt me to explore him further. Maybe this will chage it, for it's quite a great piece, despite being short and repetitive. 4/5
6. Syd Barrett - Octopus
I guess I can see why you love this stuff, but it's probably not for me. It's a matter of melodies - I don't dig them at all. Dunno if they sound "dated", but those chord progressions... do nothing to me. I wished I know more music theory so I explain myself better. So the song... is ok I guess? I struggled to tell the difference between this and the following two. 3/5
7. Syd Barrett - Effervescing Elephant
Certainly a goofy, short track, that didn't do anything for me. 2.5/5
8. Syd Barrett - Golden Hair
Mmmnnn... no. Really, dunno what to say about such short song, other than what I said about the other Barret ones. Meh. 2.5/5
Overall
Quite inconsistent EP, with some great tracks, a few good ones, and several duds. Maybe fitting 8 songs on it wasn't the best choice, for the flow suffers, and the transitions between some tunes are awkward. While not catastrophic, some tinkering would have improved this aspect a lot.
EP Average = 12.38/20
Flow = 3/5
RP = 1
Score = 16.38
Final thoughts
You basically started rocking the roulette and then went downhill, only to return triumphant and secure a spot in the finals. And now last place on it lol. A bummmer, really, since you had sent me some awesome music before. Well, at least I have some new albums to spin! Thanks for playing!
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the sacul-writeups strike again.
karnivool really is nothing special though, yeah. sound awake's alright. a few good tracks. but nothing that fantastic.
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the sacul-writeups strike again.
With almost 30 songs, I feel the approach is valid this time :P
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i'm going to toss together an EP really quick for the heck of it
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1
Splent
Kevin Moore- secret song op. 3 no 5
ONGGGGGGGGFFF
10/5
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Damn, 8 songs.
I've never listened to Syd Barrett's solo albums, but Piper at the Gates of Dawn is my favourite Floyd album and it's basically all him. Even most of the songs on that aren't brilliant as stand-alone tracks though, it's the kind of album where all the pieces come together to make a really neat whole.
I have a friend who has Piper at the Gates of Dawn and In the Aeroplane Over the Sea both very high in his favourites, and when he told me that, I suddenly clicked how similar those albums are despite being completely different. Both are very experimental sprawling whimsical albums evoking childhood with a lot of trippy imagery and such.
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i'm going to toss together an EP really quick for the heck of it
Can I post a mini review of it here, after results? :P
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sure i really don't care, i hope i get at least one 1.5/5
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I wanted to add some suspense so I'll only reveal each player's result in ascending order, one per post
So it will be one reveal per day?
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If I was going for a 1.5/5 from the music I actually like, I'd probably go with Bob Dylan - I Shall Be Free No. 10.
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4
Elite - Tsilyalp s'Sacul
1. Valravn - Krummi
Yes, YES. This is pretty haunting on atmosphere, like a tribal version of bjork, but with better music ;) . I really dig the anger on her voice, and the epic ending. It could have done with a few more instrumental sections tho, for it's mostly sung. Sadly, your EP goes downhill after this, but excellent song! 4.5/5
2. Mr Bungle - The Air-Conditioned Nightmare
While I appreciate the mix of genres and styles here... I just don't dig this, really. I mean, while it's enjoyable, I find no strong connection between this and me. A friend even told me I shouldn't start listening to Mr Bungle through this track lol. I guess I'm just gonna prefer Faith No More :P +3/5
3. Agent Fresco - See Hell
I recall you sending me this artist in the previous roulette, and haven't checked that album, their debut, many times lel. So to the song, I'll be quick: I liked it, but didn't find it any special. No memorable melodies, nor standouts moments. Just a nice track. 3/5
4. The Fall of Troy - Chapter IV: Enter the Black Demon
Reminds me of post-hardcore? Mathcore? Something similar. Dunno if "generic" would be fair for this, but it mostly doesn't appeal to me. I don't connect with it in any sense - melodies don't grab me, the guitar playing is just ok, boring use of harsh vocals in the chorus, the calmer bits bored me, etc. Nice drumming tho. 2.5/5
5. Deafheaven - Come Back
Just... no. I don't dig black metal at all, and this is no exception - I just don't connect with most of the genre in any way, neither emotionally nor musically. The only bits I enjoy are the last ones, for they are acoustic and atmospheric, but nothing special in the end. This was a chore to get through, sorry. +2/5
Overall
After such great beginning, it's amazing how the other tracks pale to it. Despite that, it actually has a very good flow, and the transitions between different styles don't feel forced at all. Nice EP name btw.
EP average = 12.4/20
Flow = 4/5
RP = 1.25
Score = 17.65
Final thoughts
With a pretty good, consistent output and just a few duds, you did pretty well on this roulette, but your EP really disappointed me, mate - I guess our tastes are just quite different. Oh well. Thanks for playing and showing me some great stuff!
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yeah, i didn't figure black metal would do well with sacul :lol
that fall of troy song is cool tho and see hell is pretty cool too
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Just tuning in with a nice cuppa coffee :corn I'm in the top 3?? :spitcoffee: Holy hell, I'm excited.
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you actually came in 6th, sacul listened to your ep once and gave every song a 0/5 and refused to listen to it again
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Parama's EP is in the top 3, sorry Train.
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Oh well, thanks for having me :neverusethis: hope you fucking enjoy Parama's Oceansize EP
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i was really tempted to send oceansize tbh, but i ended up not doing so.
regardless, sacul should check out ornament/the last wrongs
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Lol, every subsequent track had a lower score :lol
Next time, I'll fill an EP of Valravn-like stuff.
By the way, I heavily disagree on See Hell not having any memorable melodies, that's just bullshit, but alright, you probably didn't like it as much as I did.
On the last two tracks, I really wanted you to like both, because I thought you would appreciate them with enough listens. Especially the Deafheaven track could be really rewarding.
Thanks for having me and hosting this roulette. I think I did quite well in the end ;)
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Yeah, same thoughts about See Hell, it might've been on the lower side of things in the round it was sent in my roulette (I'm liking it more now though), but "memorable vocal melodies" were never absent :lol that's pretty much the definition of this song. Whether they're memorable in a good or bad way, well that's up to the listener, but I can't ever read the name See Hell without thinking "We open up to, seeeeeee he-eeell"
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where results
stop sleep where results saculman
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where results
stop sleep where results saculman
I wanted to add some suspense so I'll only reveal each player's result in ascending order, one per post
So it will be one reveal per day?
Maybe Dave wasn't too far off after all. :lol
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I bet the #3 is going to be revealed at his normal results time too, which is like 3 am for me, just put me out of my misery already saculman, I'm going to have nightmares about fluffy monkeys and Taylor Swift
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I kind of expected to be fifth, I knew you weren't a big fan of Karnivool, but I hoped to change your mind, at least Alpha Omega got a 3,5. Funny that Radiohits for Idiots got a 4, adding it was really an impulse. I knew Syd Barrett's stuff would be a hit or miss, I don't know a lot of people who like his stuff. I reaally love it but I can completely understand the scores for that. Also you were quite generous with the flow score :lol
Anyway, I really enjoyed playing in the roulette! Thanks :azn:
karnivool really is nothing special though, yeah. sound awake's alright. a few good tracks. but nothing that fantastic.
:loser:
I have a friend who has Piper at the Gates of Dawn and In the Aeroplane Over the Sea both very high in his favourites, and when he told me that, I suddenly clicked how similar those albums are despite being completely different. Both are very experimental sprawling whimsical albums evoking childhood with a lot of trippy imagery and such.
I agree about the similiarity, though In the Aeroplane Over the Sea reminds me even more of Syd's solo albums (which are not as brilliant as the Piper, but still have a place), mainly because of the unpolished recording and voice. In fact, the fact that In the Aeroplane Over the Sea was in Sacul's top 50 albums list was one of the reasons for sending some of Syd's solo songs.
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to be fair i understand since i can't make anyone else like east of the wall even half as much as i do
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where results
stop sleep where results saculman
Oops, fell asleep :lol
I guess with See Hell it has the kind of melodies I don't find memorable, while others do. They just don't stick with me.
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that post doesn't look like results to me
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Train of Naught - Secrecy EP
1. Sean Ashe - Imagine
A very relaxing, interesting opener that isn't too minimalist to be boring nor uncreative to be filler. Very good use of guitars, reminds me a bit to David Maxim Micic's chill tracks. It has grown a bit on me so I guess I'll eventually check this album. 4/5
2. Slipknot - Danger - Keep Away
Well, I definitely didn't expect something like this from this band - when I saw them in the tracklist, I was ready for something br00tal. This is pretty interesting indeed, for it has a nice dark atmosphere and is certainly chill. Kind of fits weird after such a joyful track like Imagine, but I don't mind. I guess this will be the closes that I'll be to liking this band :P 3.5/5
3. Deftones - Tempest
This seems to basically be the definition of alternative metal but unlike most bands in that style I've listened to, Deftones have their own sound. And while that's something I appreciate a lot, it ain't enough for me. I guess this track fails on the melodies to grab me - they're not in a style I dig, really. Yes, the chorus is catchy and nice, but I guess I've listened to better ones. I quite enjoy the song, but it doesn't resonate with me much. The singer is nuts tho. 3.5/5
4. Children of Nova - Second Sight Blackout
Yes, the chorus is pretty epic and I like it, but I don't find the rest of the song that interesting tbh. Maybe it's the melodies? It pretty much happens the same as with the Deftones song. 3.5/5
5. Like Thieves - Ghost in the Machine
I feel like this track closes the EP pretty well, with that bombastic beginning and the great chorus. Although it sounds similar in style to the previous two songs, I feel the moelodies of the vocals and the guitars are stronger here, more memorable. there's definitely that "epic ending" vibe here, and I dig it. Didn't blow me away, but it more than closes the EP well. 4/5
Overall
A pretty good EP that starts and ends great, but what's in the middle I found nowhere as interesting. At first I thought it nailed the flow score, but with more spins I realised how odd the first two tracks sounds together. The other songs blend very well tho.
EP Average = 14.8/20
Flow = 4/5
RP = 0
Score = 18.8
Final Thoughts
With a bit of an inconsistent output during the roulette, you managed to get into the Finals by a hair. How epic it'd have been if you won this round, but I guess this is already better than what you expected. Thanks for showing me some great stuff like Lechuga, I'll be jamming the shit out if it :metal Thanks for playing!
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On the last two tracks, I really wanted you to like both, because I thought you would appreciate them with enough listens. Especially the Deafheaven track could be really rewarding.
I wanted too, but they just never clicked :(
I agree about the similiarity, though In the Aeroplane Over the Sea reminds me even more of Syd's solo albums (which are not as brilliant as the Piper, but still have a place), mainly because of the unpolished recording and voice. In fact, the fact that In the Aeroplane Over the Sea was in Sacul's top 50 albums list was one of the reasons for sending some of Syd's solo songs.
I guess I don't find much similarity between NMH and the Syd songs - at least not with ITAOTS, and in a melodic sense they're pretty different. And Jeff is pure raw passion, poor Syd was nuts :P
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i mean if your EP average is 3.7/5 you did a pretty good job imo
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:tup
I already knew the #1 spot was pretty much no option here, so I'm pretty comfortable with #3. It's the closest I've ever come to winning one of these :lol
Not gonna lie though, I had my doubts about Deftones but I was very confident in Slipknot and Children of Nova, and the flow between #1 and #2, well yeah.. Sean Ashe was kinda my 'filler track', couldn't find something that fit better before Danger - Keep Away, I tried to fix it with the editing but it was still kinda awkward.
I guess me thinking that Children of Nova song had a bit of a Coheed vibe without the poppy stuff doesn't help either since you don't even like that band.
After frantically listening to my own EP ever since I made it I would say the first and last songs are my least favorite, and Second Sight Blackout, like I said in the writeup, is always the big climax of the song I'm looking forward to when the EP starts, phenomenal song by a band that unfortunately doesn't exist anymore and hasn't put out anything near as good.
i mean if your EP average is 3.7/5 you did a pretty good job imo
Yeah I guess it is. But if these were the 3 'disappointments I'm looking forward to the 4.5/5 average EP's, unless this wasn't one of them and there's still one disappointment left.
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Actually only the #5 and #4 were disappointing, yours wasn't. And one of the two left grew on me a lot tbh.
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And one of the two left grew on me a lot tbh.
so, bolsters won
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Parama - I made this in 15 minutes and didn't listen to it yet
Overall
Tracklist too awesome to be revealed to humanity. Trascendental stuff :hefdaddy
EP Average = 42/20
Flow = 7/5
RP = -0.25
Score = Infinite
Final Thoughts
You are my dark master, Parama.
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RP = -0.25
:rollin
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lol why is this 37 pages
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tbh i'm expecting like a 3.5 average for reals tho because it's sacul, but it could be lower, probably not higher
also zantera it's only 26 pages i don't know what you're talking about
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lol why is this 37 pages
Worse is Evermind's - he's about the same pages and ain't even into the final rounds :lol
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bolsters' is at 13 pages (half of sacul's and evermind's) and he's on round two
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Because every roulette in 2016 seems to be some sort of clown fiesta where like 30 people sign up and all comment on their songs and ratings, and some hosts like to hype every single update they make :lol We also have the fancy blurred pictures now, on top of the 'tidbits'
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except genowyn's :angel:
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Poop
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Go go gadget EP
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this was my favorite ep - 19/25
~sacul
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this is the most painfully drawn-out roulette in DTF history
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Remember there's a roulette that never delivered their final round results and it's been like a year ::)
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i mean that's different from finishing a roulette, also i have only been participating in roulettes for like a year so anything that happened before 2015 doesn't count
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Bolsters - Roulette EP
1. Haamoja - Return To Zero
Well, this is some pretty nice piano indeed! Reminds me of a 90s JRPG piece. Maybe a bit... cheesy, or amateur-ish? Feels more like belonging to a videogame OST than a standalone piece tbh, but it serves well as EP opener I guess. 3.5/5
2. zircon - Skyline
I struggled to difference this one and the following, for they feel very similar, and while that wouldn't be a problem if they were awesome, they sadly aren't. This is probably the kind of electronic music I can't get into, breakbeat. Like Venetian Snares, it has some interesting rhythms and fast drums, but I'm a melody guy. And these rhythms aren't impressive either, for it's the classic breakbeat one all over the place, so... It was ok. 3/5
3. zircon - Timeless
Pretty much what I said on the previous track, except I like this a bit more since it has more variety, but that's it. I added Identity Sequence by this guy to the list because I stumbled upon Neurobazaar on Spotify and it quite impressed me for its mix of electronic sounds and world textures - something like that would have scored better I guess. Anyways, an enojyable tune. +3/5
4. Blackmill - The Drift
So the two Blackmill tracks are what had you worried? I can't see why since they're better than what's before. A short but pretty epic track I quite enjoyed. +3.5/5
5. Blackmill - Let It Be (feat. Veela)
Interesting song, serving as a breather after such intense songs. The production and atmosphere are great, as well as the vocals. Maybe a bit amateur-ish, but quite more refined than the previous songs. +4/5
6. BT - Every Other Way
The climax of the EP, as you said. At first I thought it dragged, but I've got used to it and think it's quite impressive how well this track flows and doesn't feel too long. Very good atmosphere and nice vocals. The outro is weird, indeed, but I like it. +4/5
7. BT - Always
Well, this could have been the climax of the EP for it feels... bigger, more epic, even if it is shorter than Every Other Way. As the previous track, it has a great stmosphere and some nice vocal lines. 4/5
Overall
A bit of a disappointing EP at first, but one that has grown on me a lot, lucky you ;) Just a few duds that prevented this from getting a higher score. Fantastic flow, given that most tracks are basically electronic, so it all remains cohesive, and there are calm moments between the more intense sections so it is an easy listen.
Average score = 14.86/20
Flow = 5/5
RP = 2
Score = 21.86
Final thoughts
Very consistent through all the roulette, appealing to my poppiest, more electronic side and showing me some fantastis stuff with only a few downsides. Thanks a lot for playing, and I hope you participate in my v3 whenever it happens!
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Fluffy Lothario - ;D / :sadpanda:
1. Silverchair - Across the Night
Pretty interesting song, and more knowing its background. Joyful and fun, grandiose with the symphonic elements. The melodies are nice though not really special - doesn't surprise me considering they used to be a grunge group. But the emotion behind it is enough to proper me to check the album some day. Great track. 4/5
2. Kimbra - Come Into My Head
I had seen Kimbra's name being tossed around here and there, but had no clue about what kind of music she made. Well, this is surprising - a mix of several styles that work very well together, giving this track quite a unique personality. Her voice has a lot of attitude too. Yup, I quite like this. +4/5
3. Movits! - Sammy Davis Jr.
Dunno if it is "the coolest song ever" but it's a strong contender - just pure fun and joy is what I hear. Maybe a bit too repetitive in terms of songwriting, but other than that, it was very good. 4/5
4. Ben Howard - Depth Over Distance
Damn, this track has a fantastic atmosphere, with those soft vocal harmonies. I have no clue what's going on behind the vocals, feels like the guitars are fucking around or something. Probably what prevents me from loving this track are the vocal melodies - they're nice, but there are barely any moments in which he isn't singing, making it feel like he's stretching some melodies. And the songwriting is ok I guess. +3.5/5
5. Beck - Lonesome Tears
Last year I checked Odelay! but didn't really like it - I just couldn't connect with it in any sense. Well, this song is already better than such album at least. Interesting symphonic piece that could have been a bit more epic, but that I quite enjoy, and makes me want to give Beck another chance. 4/5
6. Florence + the Machine - Seven Devils
Ok, the previous writeups I had for you disappeared so I'm rewriting everything. And yes, this one is the song that destroyed what I thought about her. I mean, I'd heard of Florence a lot, but for some reason thought it was just another pop artist for hipsters that I'd probably don't like. Well, this is just fantastic. Such a big, epic, grandiose song that sounds almost apocalyptic with those pianos and her haunting voice. Starts great, and ends awesome. I'm really looking forward to listen to this album and her debut. And the third one too, what the hell. The best song of the round. 4.5/5
Overall
After such a great performance during the roulette, and considering you have a huge, diverse musical library, it didn't surprise me you still had lots of great stuff for me. I expected great things from your EP, and it certainly didn't disappoint - hell you even sent the best song of the round, barely ahead of Elite's opener. Great songs here, and kind of weird choices, for one half of the EP is pretty joyful and happy, while the other becomes somber. The flow within each half is excellent, but between these two is a bit weird.
EP Average = 16.33/20
Flow = 4/5
RP = 3.25
:2metal: Score = 23.58 :2metal:
Final thoughts
After reading your top 50 list, I knew you weren't the tipical proghead lurking DTF, and as my tastes have been expanding way out of prog, I thought it'd be interesting to have you participating here. And you exceeded my expectations, leading the roulette for more than half the rounds, showing me some amazing music - your consistency is almost ridiculous. Like Evermind, as a bonus for winning this roulette, you have reserved a spot in my next roulette, whenever it happens, if you want to play.
So that's it folks - the most pretentious frustrating roulette ever has reached to an end! I'll update the "Best of Roulette" playlist later to include this last round, and provide links to the EPs in case you're interested. And post how much Parama's EP sucked :neverusethis:
Hope you had fun - see you in my v3! :smiley:
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man, i could've sent come into my head and gotten a +4/5? should've done it. radical song.
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After sending I thought maybe you'd think Let It Be was a bit dragged out and too dubsteppy, and then later I thought you might think The Drift was repetitive. I did think Return To Zero and the zircon tracks would do better than they did, though.
Anyway, I went into this roulette thinking I was going to be at the bottom the whole time, so I can't really complain about coming second. I really surprised myself, and probably you too. :lol I'm definitely in it for the v3 whenever that happens.
Congrats to the victor aswell! :tup
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The contrast between how well I did in this roulette and how poorly I’ve done in the other two from recently (coming last, kicked out in first qualifier) is amusing. :lol I’m happy I could give you a bit of stuff you really liked though.
For the record, I thought Kimbra’s first album was great, then her second fell totally flat on me. Though that‘s definitely not everyone’s thoughts on it.
I feel the same about Beck’s regular stuff. The music is incredibly creative, not bad at all, but after checking out a few albums, I just found I felt no connection to it at all. His lyrics are abstract, but unlike a lot of artists, he doesn’t really evoke a tone or speak through them, it’s just a bunch of wacky shit. Sea Change and Morning Phase are the polar opposite, basically all tone, very grounded and emotional. Still very experimental, but in a more understated way.
Ceremonials is definitely the darkest, gothiest Florence album, so check that out for sure. Though make sure you hear the bonus stuff as well. Remain Nameless and Strangeness and Charm are better than anything on the album itself (I very nearly sent Remain Nameless instead) and the “acoustic” Breaking Down pisses on the album version. If you want to hear what she’s like at her best, yet not dark at all, check out the song How Big, How Blue, How Beautiful.
By the way, had I held Bic Runga until this round and sent Movits! earlier, I probably would have used Ruby Nights and Jeff Buckley’s Dream Brother and made my entire EP dark as hell.
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Oh, by the way, can you post the best of roulette here as a list or something? Some of us are technologically backward and won't make the leap to Spotify for years yet, probably.
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Sure, I'd probably make it a YT playlist, or just a text thing if I don't have time. Give me a couple hours.
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BEST OF ROULETTE 2016
Every song with at least a 4 has been included here, so great stuff ensured. I'll bold my favorites (those which received a 4.5 or more):
- Afro Celt Sound System - Deep Channel
- Alt-J - Taro
- Amadeus Awad - Noir
- Anna Von Hausswolff - Discovery
- Arcade Fire - Wake Up
- Arctic Monkeys - From the Ritz to the Rubble
- Beck - Lonesome Tears
- Bic Runga - Ruby Nights
- Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell
- Blackmill - Let It Be (feat. Veela)
- Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
- Bon Iver - Skinny Love
- Broods - Superstar
- BT - Always
- BT - Every Other Way
- Celldweller - Gift For You
- CHVRCHES - The Mother We Share
- CHVRCHES - You Caught the Light
- Closure In Moscow - Happy Days
- Coldplay - Midnight
- Eisley - Mr. Moon
- Euzen - The Stage
- Fair to Midland - Orphan Anthem 86'
- Fire! Orchestra - Enter, Part One
- Florence + the Machine - Seven Devils
- Foals - Inhaler
- Frank Ocean - Pyramids
- Glen Hansard - Bird of Sorrow
- Gorillaz - El Mañana
- Kamasi Washington - The Rhythm Changes
- Kimbra - Come Into My Head
- Kishi Bashi - Philosophize in it! Chemicalize with it!
- Koan Sound - Sly Fox
- Lechuga - Entre 2 Mundos
- Like Thieves - Ghost in the Machine
- Lorde - Buzzcut Season
- Lorde - Glory And Gore
- Ludovico Einaudi - Divenire (Live at Royal Albert Hall London)
- Machine Head - A Farewell to Arms
- Mew - Comforting Sounds
- Movits! - Sammy Davis Jr.
- Mree - On Echo
- múm - We Have A Map Of The Piano
- Muse - Citizen Erased
- Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
- OutKast - B.O.B.
- Pain of Salvation - Iter Impius
- Philip Glass - Etude No.6 (played by Maki Namekawa)
- Queen - Innuendo
- Rishloo - Just a Ride
- Rob Dougan - One and the Same (instrumental)
- Roger Waters - It's a Miracle (Live)
- Rush - La Villa Strangiato
- Saor - Farewell
- Sean Ashe - Imagine
- Shamrain - To Leave
- Silverchair - Across the Night
- Slash feat. Miles Kennedy & The Conspirators - Beneath the Savage Sun
- Snarky Puppy - Something
- Soundgarden - Superunknown
- Steam Powered Giraffe - Brass Goggles
- Streetlight Manifesto - If and When We Rise Again
- Sylvan - Not Far from the Sky
- The Angelic Process - Dying in A-Minor
- The Antlers - Kettering
- The Dear Hunter - At the End of the Earth
- The Gentle Storm - New Horizons
- The Naked and Famous - We Are Leaving
- The Stooges - Fun House
- Theodor Bastard - Umbraya Erze
- Thrice - Red Sky
- Trioscapes - Blast Off
- Valravn - Krummi
- Wrongkong - Radiohits for Idiots (Ghost City Sessions)
- Yoko Kanno and the Seatbelts - Bad Dog No Biscuits
All of these are great, so I hope you find some stuff you like :smiley:
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i mean, i have 6 songs there so that's pretty cool
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I have 3. Shows that I didn't know what to submit. If I knew then what I know now i would send different stuff :lol
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5/21 how did i not win
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I have only 2 songs there, and I almost won Sacul's last roulette :lol.
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So I shamelessly stole Evermind's Roulette album idea ( :angel: ), and decided to compile something similar with the best songs of my v2. But because of the nature of these tracks makes them very different one from each other, I decided to make each disc have its own personality and mood. I present you:
Best of Sacul's Roulette v2
I couldn't separate the CDs according to heaviness or just intensify, for I'd have needed 4 discs for that :lol So I went with a different mindset for each, one is rather joyful, bright, and leaves you with a good sensation after listening to it. The other is definitely appealing to our darker side - it's heavy, epic, angry, depressing, or just plain weird, and it's a tough emotional listen. There were a few 4.5/5 songs I had to leave out because I couldn't fit them at all and included others that grew a bit more on me and seemed more appropriate. This album isn't intended to be listened as a whole nor in one sitting, so I've made YT playlists of them so you can check them easily - if you want the files, PM me.
Disc One: Yellow & Green (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtOJTJ6kyL2E_YTfmyI87D3OxH8rWMslf)
1. Kishi Bashi - Philosophize in it! Chemicalize with it!
2. Foals - Inhaler
3. Soundgarden - Superunknown
4. Trioscapes - Blast Off
5. Steam Powered Giraffe - Brass Goggles
6. Kimbra - Come Into My Head
7. Afro Celt Sound System - Deep Channel
8. Blackmill - Let It Be (feat. Veela)
9. Alt-J - Taro
10. Lorde - Buzzcut Season
11. London Grammar - Hey Now
12. Ludovico Einaudi - Divenire (Live at Royal Albert Hall London)
13. Lechuga - Entre 2 Mundos
14. Mew - Comforting Sounds
Running Time: 1 hour 17 minutes.
Took quite some time, but finally figured out the flow - starts rather energic and intense, just to calm down at the beginning of the second half and keep growing and growing, reaching its climax on Comforting Sounds.
Disc Two: Black & Red (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtOJTJ6kyL2F1wQauXdRMVrfmLndTUqcD)
1. Anna Von Hausswolff - Discovery
2. Valravn - Krummi
3. Celldweller - Gift For You
4. Euzen - The Stage
5. Queen - Innuendo
6. Glen Hansard - Bird of Sorrow
7. Florence + the Machine - Seven Devils
8. Fire! Orchestra - Enter, Part One
9. Machine Head - A Farewell to Arms
10. The Antlers - Kettering
11. The Angelic Process - Dying in A-Minor
Running Time: 1 hour 17 minutes.
Probably my favorite disc, I'm really proud of how it turned out - it has my two favorite songs of the roulette, and the songs somehow flow into each other very well.
Well, I guess that's all, folks. Hope you find something to like on this double album :P
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too bad that yellow & green is a baroness album
well, two baroness album
anyways saved both playlists
both albums close with an entry i sent so i'm pretty happy about that :tup
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Once again 0 entries from me.
I fail.
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I haven't got a submission on the second disc at all. Quite a few of mine are in the first one though.
Did you ever listen to my bonus track?
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This is pretty cool, I will check out these play lists.
Also, good to see some of my submissions in there! ...At least I think they're mine. :lol
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Once again 0 entries from me.
I fail.
I was about to include La Villa Strangiato in the first one, but it's a pretty well-known song around here, so it'd have been a bit pointless :P
I haven't got a submission on the second disc at all. Quite a few of mine are in the first one though.
Did you ever listen to my bonus track?
Well, I think none of your tracks really qualified for the mood the second disc was aiming for - well, maybe that Naked & Famous song would have, but forgot about it :lol
Yes, but not enough to form a proper opinion on it. Will PM you, guys, when I have a solid point of view on your bonus songs :tup
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Hahaha I have absolutely no clue how I came in 3rd, looking back at this roulette I did pretty terrible/average most of the time, but hey I'll take it, and Lechuga seems to have catched on. :lol
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Yeah Entre 2 Mundos is pretty awesome :metal