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Title: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 21, 2015, 11:33:28 AM
Well, searching for any threads with "Fitness" in the title brings up nuthin.  So, time to start anew... which is also exactly what I'm doing.  Let myself go - for a variety of reasons.  But, I'm back at it as of last week... just with getting on the bike 4-5 times a week, and some light anaerobic activity.  Gotta get back to my goal weight of mid 180s - 30 lbs to go.

Roll call gentlemen... to quote JLB on stage - "Are you with us?"

Chino:
Starting Weight: 278.2
Goal Weight: 199.9 (git yo ass under 200!)
Goal Time: April 1, 2016
Progress:  ??

gmillerdrake:
Starting Weight: 179
Goal Weight: 165
Goal Time: January 26th, 2016
Progress: 179.3# (07/26)

nightmare_cinema
Starting Weight: 144
Goal Weight: 138
Goal Time: ??
Progress: ??

jingle boy:
Starting Weight: 214
Goal Weight: 199 (first goal is to get my ass under 200!)
Goal Time: Sept 30, 2015
Progress: 209.0#/24.9% (08/09)

JayOctavarium:
Current Weight: 235
Goal Weight 1:  215
Goal Time: January 1st, 2016
Goal Weight 2: 199.9
Goal Time: April 29th, 2016
Progress: 232 (07/29)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 21, 2015, 11:49:42 AM
I'm with you.

I used to weigh 285 pounds and got down to 207 the morning of my balcony accident. Medical complications and a case of sciatica kept me out of the gym for the next year. I never got back with it. I'm hovering around 275 right now. I built a gym in the finished part of my basement when I bought my house, but I've only used it twenty times or so(yesterday included). I've got a recumbant bike too that I was straddling while taking this pic.

(https://i.imgur.com/UxsYRUq.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 21, 2015, 12:12:28 PM
I'm down. At my best shape....two years ago or so, I was weighing in around 160-165....and running 20-25 miles a week. Yada yada yada....build a house, spend 6 months in my in laws basement blah blah blah....these days I'm weighing in 177-180 and running maybe 10 miles a week.

My initial weight loss eight years ago I dropped from 220 to 160 with a butt ton of work and diet. I need to ramp it up again and drop this 15 pounds. My wife and I actually started a cleanse and a diet yesterday....I weighed in at 179. Target weight of 165 by January 26th, 2016....my 40th Birthday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 21, 2015, 12:25:48 PM
Cool. I'll get an official weight in tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 12:27:02 PM
Going to try and get back into it soon  :-[  I was in the best shape in 15 years when I double fractured my leg in May 2014 - since then it's been all about recovering physically and financially etc....exercise (other than rehab) has taken a back seat.........and my ass has been on that seat semi-permanently  ;D

Having said that at 6'1" and (a not hugely overweight) 210 lbs I think it's doable in the space of 6 months if I can get my shit together.  I have my issues with training ............I am a gym junkie and ex semi-elite power athlete but have always been injury prone due to scoliosis and the instability that creates. Having said that all the gym work I have done over my life has created some "muscle memory" and I tend to respond quickly to training if I can keep it going.

Early in 2014 I had put together 8 months without injury for the first time in a decade or more ,mostly due to special variations on exercises that I had designed (all able to be done in my home gym) , so the building blocks are there for me once I regain some more general health (and sleep).

I think I am with you Chad  :lol   I can't say that I want to lose a whole lot of weight - I am at about my perfect weight (when muscular) so it's more about changing body composition.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bosk1 on July 21, 2015, 12:34:28 PM
I'm with you, Chad.  At the beginning of April, I was the heaviest I have ever been at 231 and in the worst shape I have been.  As of last night, I was at 198.  And still counting.  My goal was, loosely, "If I can get under 200, that's fine.  If I can get down close to 190, great!"  I now want to get under 190 and get stronger.  I am well on my way.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 21, 2015, 12:45:44 PM
At this point for me....I know I'm in fairly good shape, carry a good resting heart rate....can still run 5 miles (on a trail) in 45-50 minutes....but I'm 5'-6" and any "extra" weight is noticeable and difficult to hide. I've noticed the weight I've put on, especially around my face/neck and it bums me out. I shouldn't really 'care' but I find that I do so I need to crank it up and drop this weight.

As I mentioned....when we moved in my in laws while our house was being built I packed on 15 pounds in 6 months because my exercise routine was destroyed AND my friggin' mother in law is the worlds greatest cook who I swear was trying to kill me. Fresh baked Banana Nut Bread daily...every meal looked like Thanksgiving plus we were there over the Holidays (Thanksgiving/Christmas) so home made Cookies were around every corner. Not to mention the candy and Ice Cream she keeps in stock for the grand kids. It was just too much to ignore and I lost all control. I've never recovered actually and have found myself eating larger portions and more sweets than I had the previous three/four years.

Gotta flip the switch back to 'ON' and get it done. Should we think up some type of 'prize' or reward or something for those who accomplish their target? Or, is it good enough just to get it done?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 21, 2015, 01:14:40 PM
A few months ago, I got back into going to the gym. I started with just cardio shit. I'd just wander over there once in a while.. Sometimes once a week, sometimes once every other week, sometimes every day for 4 days straight.


NOW... I have a buddy who goes and does it all... weights, cardio, etc. He goes like every other day. I join him at least twice a week, if not more if our schedules allow for it. It feels good. I am currently at 235 (ish), and would like to drop down to 200 before the end of the year, if not, then by my 25th birthday in April.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: nightmare_cinema on July 21, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Timely thread! I just started the NHS couch to 5k programme yesterday, it's a plan to get you from zero fitness to running 5k in nine weeks. I used to love treadmill at the gym but stopped going about xmas time as I was getting shin pain, and am now incredibly unfit. Partly because I'm asthmatic, but I used to smoke too which made the asthma really bad. I don't really smoke much now (a cig or two every month or two, none since the end of May at the moment and before that I think was one in April) so it's time to get back into shape (you can't be fit, asthmatic AND a smoker :P).

Turns out running outside is wayyyyy harder than running in the gym, but I went for my first session last night just around the block, it was a five min warm up brisk walk, then intervals of 90 mins walking, 60 seconds running for twenty minutes, and a warm down for five minutes. I went for a jog the night before and was knackered within ten minutes from trying to just jog nonstop so I think this intervals stuff is really gonna work for me. I managed the workout fine, I was exhausted and sweaty but completed it so I reckon it's pitched just right for me to start.

Here's hoping I keep it up! I certainly plan to. Next session tomorrow night.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 21, 2015, 02:11:19 PM
Timely thread! I just started the NHS couch to 5k programme yesterday, it's a plan to get you from zero fitness to running 5k in nine weeks. I used to love treadmill at the gym but stopped going about xmas time as I was getting shin pain, and am now incredibly unfit. Partly because I'm asthmatic, but I used to smoke too which made the asthma really bad. I don't really smoke much now (a cig or two every month or two, none since the end of May at the moment and before that I think was one in April) so it's time to get back into shape (you can't be fit, asthmatic AND a smoker :P).

Turns out running outside is wayyyyy harder than running in the gym, but I went for my first session last night just around the block, it was a five min warm up brisk walk, then intervals of 90 mins walking, 60 seconds running for twenty minutes, and a warm down for five minutes. I went for a jog the night before and was knackered within ten minutes from trying to just jog nonstop so I think this intervals stuff is really gonna work for me. I managed the workout fine, I was exhausted and sweaty but completed it so I reckon it's pitched just right for me to start.

Here's hoping I keep it up! I certainly plan to. Next session tomorrow night.

My wife and the neighborhood wives all did this program....she really liked the interval training as well. They all stuck to it and accomplished the 5k so good luck!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on July 21, 2015, 04:09:34 PM
I'd down for this.  In fact, I told myself that I was going to do this after vacation (because it is impossible to eat well on family vacations :lol). 

The pisser for me is that I pulled a muscle in my trap a while back, which has never fully healed, so whenever I do even light lifting, it is sore the rest of the day.  I was in the 185-195 range for a long time, but am around 210 now (5'11"), and the thing is, I eat the same way I always have, but getting older and not being able to exercise as much takes its toll.  So yeah, I am pretty aggravated.  Time to get moving again. :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: mike099 on July 21, 2015, 05:34:41 PM
Nice exercise room Chino!  I go to the Y Monday thru Thursday at 5 a.m.  I normally spin hard for about 35 minutes, spend 10 minutes on weights and hit the steam room for 10 minutes.  I take Friday off and normally go back Saturday and Sunday.  I was going after work, but it is easy to talk yourself out of going after working all day.  I was surprised how many folks are at the door at 5 a.m.



Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on July 21, 2015, 05:37:44 PM
Nice exercise room Chino!  I go to the Y Monday thru Thursday at 5 a.m.  I normally spin hard for about 35 minutes, spend 10 minutes on weights and hit the steam room for 10 minutes.  I take Friday off and normally go back Saturday and Sunday.  I was going after work, but it is easy to talk yourself out of going after working all day.  I was surprised how many folks are at the door at 5 a.m.

Now that I am working 8-5 again, I have considered doing a pre-work workout first thing in the morning, but I fear that will result in me trying not to nod off all afternoon at work.  :lol :lol

My brother Tim is 44 and does Crossfit several times a week around 6 in the morning before working all day.  He is a beast with those workouts. :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: MoraWintersoul on July 21, 2015, 11:42:22 PM
When I lost a lot of weight, I lost some of my muscle mass too. I gained some back, it's not a big deal anymore and I don't look too bad, but I do a lot of sitting in front of the computer, my posture sucks and as someone who has never really worked out (I just do a lot of walking around), I really need to snap out of it. So I'll be following some Blogilates routines from the Youtube channel + some of the available 30 day programs on her blog and hopefully I'll learn to like it and look for even more home workouts :)

It's been 40 degrees (104 for the USA lot of ye) outside for most of this and past week and it won't get better until Monday (and even then we'll be lucky to get 90-95 at least), so that's an extra challenge :-X
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 22, 2015, 12:55:07 AM
You can do it Milena!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: adace on July 22, 2015, 01:36:53 AM
Trying to do a mile jog each day but it's been tough with depression and fatigue. Long walks on the other hand are fairly easy for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 05:22:13 AM
Back in 2006, I weighed about 230-235 (I'd always been pretty heavy - ever since I can remember).  Mrs.jingle and I got the motivation to drop some weight, and over an 8-month period, I got down to 183 and she lost 25 lbs... slow and steady, about 1-2 pounds per week.  We did it exclusively on cardio (stationary bike for me; treadmill for her) and diet.  It was a simple equation - burn more than you consume.  And we kept it off for a long time.  We even did a couple of p90x routines, and man did she have a smokin hot body in 2009.  Then she got pneumonia right in the middle of a 2nd round of p90x, then broke her shoulder the following winter.  Ever since, she's had zero drive to exercise, and at this point has put on all of that weight she lost 9 years ago.

Myself, I was still exercising, had a membership at the Y a year or so ago, and still doing a lot of things to stay in shape.  Then, about 2 years ago, life problems crept up, and I just stopped caring about a lot of things as I've mentioned before.  I'm back up to 214, and hating myself for it - which sure didn't help with my depression.

Life issues are starting to get resolved, so bought a new stationary bike 2 weeks ago, and am going to do some cardio for the next couple of months to get myself back into it, then get back into p90x and Insanity (which is absolutely appropriately named).

Will take a 'before' picture now, and and post my before/after results here on Jan 1 as motivation to stick to it.

Ya'll can hold me accountable.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2015, 05:33:45 AM
So good to see your posts and see this thread Chad.  Great to see you getting back into it.  I'm still doing my thing as always, hitting the gym 5 times a week and starting to see my top abs for the first time in my life.  Might post a pic in about 6 months too as the original fitness thread I started was a good place to get some motivation too. 

Hang in there and make it part of your routine again mate, and relish in your hard work and results.  Don't hate yourself.  Shit happens, life happens, don't beat yourself up.  Look forward, accept you've taken a few steps back, it is what it is, and smash it again and you'll get there.  Stay focused man.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 06:06:30 AM
Here is my official weigh in.
(https://i.imgur.com/m64WNJA.jpg)

I'm just going to kind of type away here.

I've been thinking a lot about this thread as both my girlfriend and I struggle with eating. I definitely have a binge eating disorder. I'll start making dinner, get bored, and eat a dinner's worth of other food as I wait for my main dinner to finish. I'll walk into the kitchen to get a glass of water and walk out having shoved 800 calories worth of shit down my throat in a matter of minutes. It's almost as though I'm not satisfied until my stomach is physically stretched to the max. This also isn't helped by the fact that I have a problem with the texture of many vegetables, and to get anything like that in me requires a nutribullet.

I've seen people in this thread talking about times of the day to work out. This is more excuses on my part, but there is definitely a heavy dose of legitimacey in them as well. Let's start with morning. First off, I get up at 5:30 as it is. To get a real workout in would require getting up at 4:30. I'm not entirely opposed to that, I've tried it before, but I tend to start falling asleep in meetings because I'm so tired. Also, I'm not someone who (I apologize for what's coming next) can just wake up in the morning and take a morning shit. Some days it's quick, other days it takes a while of being active to get stuff moving. I'll usually shower, shave, etc.. until I'm ready. There is absolutely nothing worse that being in the middle of a workout and having the first dump of the day come on out of nowhere. It's shitty (pun intended) either way. I could try to hold it and that makes the workout miserable and exceedingly more difficult, or I can stop working out and hit the toilet. In that scenario I'm sweaty and breathing heavy as I sit on the throne, and by the time all is said and done, my body has cooled down and getting back to working out is next to impossible. After work sucks just as much. I get up at 5:30 and get home at 5:30. By the time I workout, shower, and eat dinner, it's already 8 o'clock. I get maybe two or two and a half hours to relax before falling asleep.

When I lost the near 80lbs the first time, I attribute most of that success to my schedule. I was working 10:00-6:30. I could wake up at 7, go to the gym for an hour and a half, and still have plenty of time before work.

Another big problem I have is dicouragement. When I was in peak shape, I was going to the gym 7 times a week. I'd take two days off and go twice on two days. I was a machine. Even though I was still a big dude, I was running (literally running) 4-5 miles at a time. I was lifting heavy and could do between 70 and 80 pushups before my arms would give out. Today when I work out, I can't help but get disappointed with myself. I know that's ridiculous and completely negative, but it's hard not to do sometimes. I hate myself when I get on my bench and can barely put up 50 pounds less than what I used to do as my warm up.


Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 06:32:57 AM
Totally get your point Chino about your 'movements'.  Thankfully, I don't have that problem.  Working out in the evening - even after dinner - isn't a bad thing.  That's how mrs.jingle and I lost our weight initially.  jingle.kids were only 5, so after we put them to bed, we'd get on the bike/treadmill.  Start slow - you didn't get to 278 in a few weeks/months, so you won't drop the weight in a few weeks/months.

Re: eating... the epiphany moment I had 9 years ago was reading (and I knew this, it was just a reminder), that it takes your brain 20 minutes to get the signal from your stomach that you're full.  So, if you (and I'm using "you" generically, not to anyone specifically) eat until you're full, you were actually full 15-20 minutes ago.  I cut my portions by 1/3, and if I was still full when the plate was empty, I'd tell myself 'if you're still hungry in 30 minutes, have a snack or something small'.  Invariably, 90% of the time I'd forget I was hungry 30 minutes later.  The other thing I read recently is that a lot of people confuse being hungry with being thirsty.... so I'm trying to drink a lot more water - and that also speeds up the metabolism.  I'm doing it with BCAA powder, which adds a little sweetness, and also helps curb some of the cravings from my sweet tooth.

Anyway... that's my advice for the moment.  Anyone else have any 'epiphany' moments that has helped them?

Think I may start a 'tracker' in the OP unless anyone objects - starting weight, goal weight, timeframe etc... to keep people accountable.  Let me know who's game for that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
Totally get your point Chino about your 'movements'.  Thankfully, I don't have that problem.  Working out in the evening - even after dinner - isn't a bad thing.  That's how mrs.jingle and I lost our weight initially.  jingle.kids were only 5, so after we put them to bed, we'd get on the bike/treadmill.  Start slow - you didn't get to 278 in a few weeks/months, so you won't drop the weight in a few weeks/months.

Re: eating... the epiphany moment I had 9 years ago was reading (and I knew this, it was just a reminder), that it takes your brain 20 minutes to get the signal from your stomach that you're full.  So, if you (and I'm using "you" generically, not to anyone specifically) eat until you're full, you were actually full 15-20 minutes ago.  I cut my portions by 1/3, and if I was still full when the plate was empty, I'd tell myself 'if you're still hungry in 30 minutes, have a snack or something small'.  Invariably, 90% of the time I'd forget I was hungry 30 minutes later.  The other thing I read recently is that a lot of people confuse being hungry with being thirsty.... so I'm trying to drink a lot more water - and that also speeds up the metabolism.  I'm doing it with BCAA powder, which adds a little sweetness, and also helps curb some of the cravings from my sweet tooth.

Anyway... that's my advice for the moment.  Anyone else have any 'epiphany' moments that has helped them?

Think I may start a 'tracker' in the OP unless anyone objects - starting weight, goal weight, timeframe etc... to keep people accountable.  Let me know who's game for that.

I'm down for being listed in the OP.
Starting weight: 278.2
Goal weight: 200.0
Goal time: April 1, 2016

There is also a cool app I use called My Fitness Pal. You can enter in your weight and height and whatnot and keep tabs on everything you eat throughout the day. It's database is absolutely massive and it's rare that I'm eating something that's not listed on it. You can also scan barcodes to make recording easier. Say I am having cheerios. I just scan the barcode on the box, enter how much of it I'm eating, and it calculates the calories and everything for you. It tells you what you should be eating per day based on your current body and what your goals are. You can have a friends list and see how everyone else is doing (including their weightloss).

In regards to your water comment, I try and drink a gallon of water a day. Most days I succeed. I like to think it helps with food cravings, but it doesn't :/ I've talked to a doctor my eating problem. She says that there is a condition where the stomach doesn't actually send the 'full' chemical to the brain. There are people who won't feel full until food starts backing up their throat, regardless of how slow they eat. I think I may have that because I never actually feel full. I have two feelings, 'hungry' and I've' eaten so much I need to puke' (not bulimic). I've never actually been tested for that condition though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 07:14:37 AM
I started my weight loss program 2 and a half weeks ago.  About 6 years ago I lost 55 pounds in 6 months, I had a lot of time on my hands then and just one day decided I wanted to lose the weight and went at it.  This time is kind of similar, I put all that weight back on over the years and now that I am single, I feel my shots of getting a more attactive lady will be significantly improved if I lose some weight.  This time I am not going in with a goal weight, but I want to stay committed to my plan until labor day weekend and see how I look and feel.  I can say 2.5 weeks in I already feel ligher and overall better.

My diet is one pack of oatmeal for breakfast, a lean cuisine for lunch, and then I've been grilling some sort of lean meat for dinner (chicken, shrimp, or a lean steak) with veggies.  Also make a protein drink after my workout which is just water and protein mix, but on the weekends I replace my breakfast with a real shake of protein, berries, and yogurt after a morning workout.

My workout isn't crazy intense, but its getting more intense every week now as my body starts to get used to working out again.  For now I do 30 minutes on my bike every day after work and then I mix in some dumbbell exercises.  I set up my basement for working out now, I have the bowflex selectech dumbbells which are awesome and a bench for simple exercises.  I also set up my ping pong table against the wall so I can practice by myself, which is actually some good exercise too and more fun (plus I get better so maybe one day I can beat my really good friend)

(https://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm267/cramx3/Mobile%20Uploads/20150712_184418.jpg?t=1437484103)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 07:20:59 AM
I wish I could see your image at work.

I'm very limited in what I could fit in my basement. The house was built in 1927 so the basement's ceiling is only 79". I would really like a machine for lateral pull downs, but the shortest one I've been able to find is 84". I'd prefer to not cut up my ceiling to fit it. That goes for most machines, bowflex included. I also can't put a treadmil or an eliptical down their either because of this :/ It really sucks. My basement is massive. The finished portion of it is 12'x24'. I could fit so much down there, but the ceiling height is such a limiting factor.

Also, those squares I have on the floor, I highly recommend them.

Protip: If you are looking for gym equipment, go on Craigslist. If you look at the picture of my exercise room, that bench, the rack, and all the weights only cost me $150. The bike that you can't see was free. It was $75 orginally, but the guy said the display stopped working and I could just take it for free if I wanted. The display will turn off once in a blue moon, but it works just fine 95% of the time.

The rower wasn't cheap. I got that for $700 from Costco. The cheapest I could find it elsewhere was $950. I always wanted a good rowing machine as it's low impact on my bad ankle and can deliver a ridiculous workout in a very short amount of time. It was my house gift to myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 22, 2015, 07:29:32 AM
Starting Weight: 179
Goal Weight: 165
Goal Time: January 26th, 2016
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 07:29:45 AM
My gym is not as a good as yours, just a bike and a small bench plus my dumbbells.

My basement is decent size, but its carpet and shit carpet that was on the first floor before I bought the house so its effectively carpet I don't care if I ruin so I don't think I need anything for the floor although I have a yoga mat if that helps with anything.

At this point I'm also not looking to get any more equipment.  The bike was new for this workout since I don't live with my parents to use their treadmill, plus my ankles get tendinitis easily so the bike is low impact and therefore better for my shitty legs.

I should also add that part of my diet has been the complete cutout of all soda.  When I first lost weight 6 years ago I made the switch from regular to diet soda and that alone put weight off.  However I still drank diet soda daily.  I have now gone 2.5 weeks without a single sip of soda, the longest since I was a little kid. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 07:32:43 AM
Nice. I never drank soda. My mom said I took a sip when I was two at a local amusement park and spit it out at her. I never had it again (outside of a Long Island iced tea). My fluids are primarily milk and water with a few beers every other weekend. The milk is the killer. I love the stuff. I used to drink close to a gallon a day and I'm down to about a quart.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 07:40:45 AM
wow, I cannot drink milk unless it is accompanied by a pastry or similar.  Now I only drink water, coffee, and if its alcohol then I'm drinking vodka clubs which is what I drink anyway, but its still a healthier choice for alcoholic beverages.  I don't plan on giving up soda for life, just while I diet and hopefully when I am done, I just drink less than I did before.  I was already slowing down unintentionally from my soda drinking and wasn't planning on completely stopping initially, but just happened to go my first day without it and said fuck it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 07:53:00 AM
I forgot all about coffee. I drink 24-48 ounces a day.

Soda scares me with it's corrosiveness. A guy just recently filed a lawsuit claiming he had found a dead mouse in his can of Mountain Dew. The case proved that the can was 15 months old. The defense wasn't that packaging standards and quality control would prevent a mouse from getting in the can, but rather the Mountain Dew would have dissolved the mouse within 30 days and it certainly would not have been recognizeable after 15 months. Now Youtube is filled with videos of people putting dead mice in soda for a month.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 22, 2015, 08:37:28 AM
I stopped drinking soda for a good 7 or 8 years. Until that stay at the in laws. I'd give in and have a Root Beer or Coke here and there....next thing you know I'm ordering it more and more at lunch or if we went out to dinner. I recently (last week) told myself I was done...need to cut it out. It's really no good for you, at all.

I drink somewhere around 32-48 oz of coffee a day....just creamer. About 3 or 4 months ago I deleted using sweetner's and actually like the taste of coffee now without it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 08:54:04 AM
I usually just have 2 k-cups a day when at work and dont normally drink coffee outside of work.  I had been using splenda and creamer, cut out the splenda this week which officially eliminated the fake sugar from my diet that I know of.  The coffee is fine with the creamer, but black coffee is still something I stuggle with drinking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 09:28:31 AM
@ Cram... what size dumbells do you have - the 90s or 52.5?  I've got the 90s.  Absolutely love them.  Best investment of workout equipment I've ever made

@ Chino - have the same problem with ceiling height.  I think it's about 80".  You ever try a chin-up bar for your doorway?  I have one of these

(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzAwWDMwMA==/z/4cUAAOSwu4BVrmDh/$_35.JPG).

You can use a chair for leverage until the strength is there to do a chin/pull-up unassisted.

@ anyone with soda cravings.  Try BCAA powder... 0 carbs/0 sugars/0 calories, and it might take care of that need for sweetness - also uncarbonated.

Will update OP later, and post pics of my "home gym".
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
I have looked into those. I have three doorways in my exercise room, all of which have doors on them. Would I need to take the one of the doors off one of the door frames if I were to get one of those?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 09:54:09 AM
I have looked into those. I have three doorways in my exercise room, all of which have doors on them. Would I need to take the one of the doors off one of the door frames if I were to get one of those?

Nope.  I'll take a picture of how they are setup, and post later.  It's a real easy setup.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on July 22, 2015, 10:02:55 AM
My goals/experiences are a bit different from you guys.

My entire life I've been fairly skinny.  I'm 5'11" and had always been right at 150 lbs.  About 2.5 years ago I started going to a crossfit gym.  I had never really done any type of power lifting (squats, deadlifts, etc) and definitely no olympic lifting (clean & jerk, snatch), especially at the weight, frequency, and intensity of the typical crossfit program.  When I first joined I was having to scale almost every workout as I just didn't have the strength to do the recommended weights or the skill to do some of the more demanding gymnastic and other movements (double unders, handstand push ups, single leg squats (aka pistols), muscle ups, etc).  Even with scaling, the workouts destroyed me.  I was always one of the last to finish or often I couldn't even finish a workout within the timecap we had for that particular one.

Slowly but surely I started making gains and about a year and a half ago things started to turn around for me.  The skill stuff came along with practice.  I can bust out about 150 unbroken double unders now, and if a workout has muscle ups in it, I look forward to it.  My front and back squat one rep maxes have almost doubled.  I can now snatch more than my original back squat max.  I can do almost every workout at the "big boy" weight and usually I am one of the first to finish.  I'm now up to 180 lbs with less fat than when I started.  So it's basically a 30 lb increase in muscle over than last 2.5 years.



jingle, you ever accidentally used unflavored BCAAs in water?  Definitely NOT sweet!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 22, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
I need to start nudging my diet in a better direction. Sometimes I'm eating way healthy and others, especially when I'm broke as hell, I'm eating shit and junk to get by. I know even small change will help.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 10:34:10 AM
@ Hath... great story man.  And no, never have had non-flavored BCAAs.  I get xtend from BodyBuilding.com.  I don't particularly like using that site, but it's the cheapest option for me to ship to Canada.

@ Chino... forgot to mention, I use Sparkpeople for tacking - same deal as MyFitnesspal.

Also, I use a Jawbone UP band.  Anyone else use that... or share what fitness bands you do use.  I'm sure all of them have the 'team' feature to track/compete against people.  Anyone using UP, I'm happy to join a team.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 10:45:35 AM
@ Hath... great story man.  And no, never have had non-flavored BCAAs.  I get xtend from BodyBuilding.com.  I don't particularly like using that site, but it's the cheapest option for me to ship to Canada.


The forums on that website are beyond depressing. Absolute lowest of the low.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Jingle, I have the 52.5 lbs dumbbells.  They are really awesome. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Nekov on July 22, 2015, 11:02:32 AM
At the start of the year I was out of shape, I wasn't super fat or anything but I have a pair of pants I wasn't fitting into... During February I went on vacation and after lots of mountain hiking I came back in really good shape and started going out jogging twice a week, doing 10k each time and also playing soccer during the weekend. Then winter came and that all stopped. I'm waiting for warmer climate to come back so I can start getting in shape again. I'll join you guys in 2 months or so  :P
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bl5150 on July 22, 2015, 11:07:08 AM
Jingle, I have the 52.5 lbs dumbbells.  They are really awesome.

I have some of those too - good space/time saver , not that I use dumbells a great deal.

My chin bar is attached to the metal work on my lifting cage......came as part of the set up actually which was handy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 11:19:32 AM
@ Hath... great story man.  And no, never have had non-flavored BCAAs.  I get xtend from BodyBuilding.com.  I don't particularly like using that site, but it's the cheapest option for me to ship to Canada.


The forums on that website are beyond depressing. Absolute lowest of the low.

I lurked there a little bit once a few years back, trying to pickup some tips/routines etc...  Never went to the forums.  Only peruse some articles, and buy my BCAAs there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: kaos2900 on July 22, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
I started working our on a regular basis again a few months back. I'm lucky enough to have a nice workout facility at my job so that makes it really easy from a time perspective. I've gained about 5 pounds this year but I think only half of that is muscle. My wife started cutting out gluten which has greatly reduced the amount of snack food in our house. I find that I have very little self control around snacking if we have crap in the house. I've stopped buying chips and other garbage. Trying to snack on pretzels or granola if I need something substantial. My one vice is beer. My goal is really try and cut back on portions and what we eat. So far we've greatly reduced the amount of boxed meals we eat and have increased the amount of vegetables we eat. Portion is still an issue but that's the next biggie on the list to get into check.

@ Chino- You mentioned you don't like the texture of vegetables. Have you tried juicing? My wife has been doing it for about 3 months and she loves it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 12:25:05 PM
@ Chino- You mentioned you don't like the texture of vegetables. Have you tried juicing? My wife has been doing it for about 3 months and she loves it.

I did look at that as an option. I ended up going the nutribullet route instead. I've read that with juicing, a lot of the fiber and stuff gets left behind.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 12:27:59 PM
I have a similar texture of food problem with fruit.  Most fruits I love the flavor and taste, but cannot eat due to texture.  I can't explain it, but eating a banana almost makes me puke.  Berries and grapes... ew the texture kills me.  I can do apples if they are cut though.  Regardless, take all those fruits I dislike, specifically berries and bananas and throw them into a smoothie and its delish.  Vegetables I am OK with.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on July 22, 2015, 12:33:29 PM
I've read that with juicing, a lot of the fiber and stuff gets left behind.

this is true, however fiber is easily obtained elsewhere
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2015, 12:37:35 PM
I've read that with juicing, a lot of the fiber and stuff gets left behind.

this is true, however fiber is easily obtained elsewhere

True. But then I need to buy a supplement or eat more food just to get the fiber. I'm trying to be around the kitchen a little as possible  :lol I don't like juices (cranberry, grape, orange, etc..) that much. Apple juice is really the only juice I'll drink, and I'd prefer it at room temp  :lol I don't think juice'd veggies would do well with me. However, when blended with a bunch of berries, oranges, and banannas, it's more like a shake and easier for me to deal with.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 12:55:51 PM
I have a similar texture of food problem with fruit.  Most fruits I love the flavor and taste, but cannot eat due to texture.  I can't explain it, but eating a banana almost makes me puke.  Berries and grapes... ew the texture kills me.  I can do apples if they are cut though.  Regardless, take all those fruits I dislike, specifically berries and bananas and throw them into a smoothie and its delish.  Vegetables I am OK with.

Too funny... I just pounded back 200g of grapes.  yum yum.

@ Chino... tried getting your 'greens' through pill form?  I did that for a while once, but as I recall, ya gotta take a lot, and those are some horse-sized pills.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: nightmare_cinema on July 22, 2015, 01:53:08 PM
Timely thread! I just started the NHS couch to 5k programme yesterday, it's a plan to get you from zero fitness to running 5k in nine weeks. I used to love treadmill at the gym but stopped going about xmas time as I was getting shin pain, and am now incredibly unfit. Partly because I'm asthmatic, but I used to smoke too which made the asthma really bad. I don't really smoke much now (a cig or two every month or two, none since the end of May at the moment and before that I think was one in April) so it's time to get back into shape (you can't be fit, asthmatic AND a smoker :P).

Turns out running outside is wayyyyy harder than running in the gym, but I went for my first session last night just around the block, it was a five min warm up brisk walk, then intervals of 90 mins walking, 60 seconds running for twenty minutes, and a warm down for five minutes. I went for a jog the night before and was knackered within ten minutes from trying to just jog nonstop so I think this intervals stuff is really gonna work for me. I managed the workout fine, I was exhausted and sweaty but completed it so I reckon it's pitched just right for me to start.

Here's hoping I keep it up! I certainly plan to. Next session tomorrow night.

My wife and the neighborhood wives all did this program....she really liked the interval training as well. They all stuck to it and accomplished the 5k so good luck!!!

I did the second workout tonight. Same as last time. I actually enjoyed it and didn't need my inhaler at all.

I'm also trying to lose a tiny bit of weight... these are my starting stats:

5ft 9
144lbs

And I'd like to get down to about 138lbs if possible. I already lost 10lbs since February but progress has slowed down. I'm a healthy weight I just prefer being lighter. I'm using myfitnesspal too, I tend to aim for 1200 calories per day and then some days I can go over by a couple hundred (or eat back my exercise calories). I have off days (weekends especially) where I let loose a little but for now, weekdays at least, I wanna stick to 1200 calories. I lost a tonne of weight on the app before and am only 7lbs away from the lowest weight I was on there, but for me that's pretty unattainable to maintain long term, at my height. If I can maintain a solid 140lbs and get fit enough to jog, I'll be happy!

I think I have a relatively good diet already to be honest, I drink 3-4 litres of water per day and I've been vegan for a lot of years. Today for example I had musli with pumpkin seeds and soya milk, some maple syrup, a soy latte for breakfast, for lunch a half sandwich with hummus, sundried tomato paste, basil, cucumber and chili seeds and a bag of sundried tomato light crisps and an apple, afternoon snack I had some cherry tomatoes and some grapes, pre run snack I had a couple of oat cakes with vegetable pate and cherry tomatoes and post run snack, despite having run out of calories (boo) I really fancied some of the spag bol that was going so I just had a tinyyyyy portion in a cocktail glass haha.

Having said that, there've been days where it's been pain au chocolat or croissants for breakfast with a huge sugary soy latte, chips, a massive fatty coconut green or red thai curry with tofu and coconut rice, some cheesecake, a whole family sized bag of crisps, I could go on. For a woman my build who does as little physical activity as me, I really don't need all those calories! But when I eat out with friends I tend to just get whatever I want as it seems daft to be spending so much on a meal if I'm not getting max enjoyment haha.

My biggest weight loss tips are a) eat as many things with chopsticks as possible (slows you down and lets you appreciate the food more) and b) drink shitloads of water. Especially prior to a meal. I know I eat well, just need to stick at it because I have a massive tendency to eat HUGE portions, like seriously huge portions even my friends who lift weights sometimes haven't been able to finish in the past haha. It's mostly healthy, good stuff though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2015, 04:55:49 PM
Reading a lot of everyone's stories I can totally relate to.  I have lost a total of 45kg (100lbs) and the best bit of advice I can give everyone is it's all about portion sizes.  Control the types of food but if you are true to yourself with how much you are actually eating, you'll make progress.  If you are in a caloric surplus, you'll put on weight, no matter what type of food you are eating.

Saying that, eating dense, low calorie food is the best way to combat eating too much and staying in a caloric defeceit.  When I was fat, my diet use to be cakes, donuts, soft drink, McD's, pizza, choc milk and anything I can get my hands on.  My diet now only consists of chicken breast, vegetables, salmon, oats, yogurt, eggs and some peanut butter.

Weekends I usually allow a small cheat meal and maybe some ice cream and a latte or two also.  Works well when you can schedule a treat or cheat meal, it will keep your diet in check just don't go overboard.  If I have a cheat meal day also, I'll usually won't eat much more than that.  Might fast until about 2, have something small and a coffee then my meal.  I like to change my conistency of when I eat a couple of days a week, suppose to keep the body guessing.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on July 22, 2015, 05:08:18 PM
   Anyone else have any 'epiphany' moments that has helped them?
 

When I get on these "I need to lose 10 lbs" or whatever kicks, it's usually cause I had a moment where I was like, "This is ridiculous."  This time, it was a few weeks ago when I realized that most of my summer t-shirts make me look not as trim as I want to look.  That is when I told myself that I would get back at it after vacation (which was this past Sat-Tues). 

Weighed in today at 209 when I went to the gym at lunch; I want to be at 190 by November 1st.  Slow and steady wins the race. :coolio
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on July 22, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
I'm 5 ft 8 and I weigh 12.5 stone. ( 175 lb )

I'm in that middle area where i'm not really overweight or nicely normal.

I'm quite muscly too which apparently can put your BMI out...

But my pedometer app says I walk around 6 miles a day at work so something isn't working :lol

I only eat when i'm hungry and even then it's not much.

:dunno: ehh I dunno.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2015, 05:30:38 PM
Reading a lot of everyone's stories I can totally relate to.  I have lost a total of 45kg (100lbs) and the best bit of advice I can give everyone is it's all about portion sizes.  Control the types of food but if you are true to yourself with how much you are actually eating, you'll make progress.  If you are in a caloric surplus, you'll put on weight, no matter what type of food you are eating.

Saying that, eating dense, low calorie food is the best way to combat eating too much and staying in a caloric defeceit.  When I was fat, my diet use to be cakes, donuts, soft drink, McD's, pizza, choc milk and anything I can get my hands on.  My diet now only consists of chicken breast, vegetables, salmon, oats, yogurt, eggs and some peanut butter.

Weekends I usually allow a small cheat meal and maybe some ice cream and a latte or two also.  Works well when you can schedule a treat or cheat meal, it will keep your diet in check just don't go overboard.  If I have a cheat meal day also, I'll usually won't eat much more than that.  Might fast until about 2, have something small and a coffee then my meal.  I like to change my conistency of when I eat a couple of days a week, suppose to keep the body guessing.

That's impressive to lose that much weight, did you exercise as well or you put all that weight off strictly by calorie intake?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2015, 06:11:07 PM
Reading a lot of everyone's stories I can totally relate to.  I have lost a total of 45kg (100lbs) and the best bit of advice I can give everyone is it's all about portion sizes.  Control the types of food but if you are true to yourself with how much you are actually eating, you'll make progress.  If you are in a caloric surplus, you'll put on weight, no matter what type of food you are eating.

Saying that, eating dense, low calorie food is the best way to combat eating too much and staying in a caloric defeceit.  When I was fat, my diet use to be cakes, donuts, soft drink, McD's, pizza, choc milk and anything I can get my hands on.  My diet now only consists of chicken breast, vegetables, salmon, oats, yogurt, eggs and some peanut butter.

Weekends I usually allow a small cheat meal and maybe some ice cream and a latte or two also.  Works well when you can schedule a treat or cheat meal, it will keep your diet in check just don't go overboard.  If I have a cheat meal day also, I'll usually won't eat much more than that.  Might fast until about 2, have something small and a coffee then my meal.  I like to change my conistency of when I eat a couple of days a week, suppose to keep the body guessing.

That's impressive to lose that much weight, did you exercise as well or you put all that weight off strictly by calorie intake?

Thanks, it was over a few years.  I didn't want to drop weight too fast.  You have to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight whatever way you look at it, but my main exercise is weight training.  Do heavy weights 5 times a week and then about half an hour of steady cardio after each session.  Never did much running or real high intensity stuff, I'd rather the weight training.  I hate running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on July 22, 2015, 07:34:11 PM
I'm quite muscly too which apparently can put your BMI out...

yep.  According to BMI, I am classified as overweight even though my body fat % is in the single digits.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bl5150 on July 22, 2015, 07:39:08 PM
A load of rubbish is BMI for those who train -  in my best ever shape I was "obese"
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 08:14:42 PM
Here's the setup for me - yes, that Art of Seduction poster is my Secret Santa gift from Yeshua a couple of Christmas's ago.  I also have a Bowflex bench that I bought with the dumbells, but it gets stored under my pool table on the other end of the basement - it's the only place I have room to keep it.  As you can see, things are a little cramped.

(https://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww265/jingle-boy/DTF%20items/A7A64D2A-E5F2-474E-8315-D879652293CE_zpswfl0naiq.jpg)

Got the cardio machines aimed at the TV (on a wall-mount that swivels) so I can watch concerts or play PS3

(https://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww265/jingle-boy/DTF%20items/D6956AC6-BD17-4913-A180-12F738649D0D_zpstr4hkmeh.jpg)

@ Chino... the pull-up bar setup:

(https://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww265/jingle-boy/DTF%20items/0C4EBF27-8662-463C-98F4-CBDD9387301B_zpsrnpo5325.jpg)

The opposite side is below.  There are two tiny little aluminum "clips" that get screwed into the wall (preferably in studs if you can), and that the bar rests in to hold it in place. The the physics of it don't rely on those clips, it uses one's own weight to essentially drive the front and back of the bar to 'squeeze' the wall.  Not sure if that makes sense or not.

(https://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww265/jingle-boy/DTF%20items/A7B2A410-AF78-4E8A-BD37-9D71EF1F8791_zpsillirtk4.jpg)

  Slow and steady wins the race. :coolio

Without a doubt.  When I lost my weight, it was 1-2 pounds a week for 8 months.  My belief is that anything that is more dramatic is more likely to come back.  I kept it off for 8 years or so, and would still be mid 190s if not for 'not caring' phase I've been in over the last year or so.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bl5150 on July 22, 2015, 08:29:36 PM
Here's my setup - it took a lot of planning to squeeze everything I wanted into a small standard size bedroom - so the adjustable dumbells , bar/weight stands , fold up treadmill etc...

Unfortunately that room has been dormant for over a year , but it's all there waiting.

(https://s22.postimg.org/uvztpnyw1/IMG_1871_1.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.org/t4gs2qynd/IMG_1872_1.jpg)
(https://s12.postimg.org/9ywf95kh9/IMG_1873_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2015, 08:34:49 PM
OP updated.  Anyone else want to get on the list, just post it:

Starting Weight:
Goal Weight:
Goal Time:

That's some heavy duty stuff there Brent.  Get back at 'er
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 22, 2015, 09:37:41 PM
I'll jump in.

Starting now:

Current weight: 235 lbs
Goal weight 1:  215 lbs by January 1st, 2016
Goal weight 2: under 200 lbs by April 29th, 2016
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: nightmare_cinema on July 23, 2015, 03:17:26 AM
I forgot to mention my epiphany moment! It was when I left uni and got my own place and kitchen, I started going mad cooking and eating constantly. One day I suddenly realised I had bright red stretch marks on my thighs, I weighed myself and in a few months I had gone from 136lbs to about 154lbs. That was the moment I decided it was stopping there.

First time I really tried to lose weight was so crazy easy as I was on pain relief patches that 100% killed ALL appetite, my eating then was really measured and easy to stick to as I didn't have the emotional drive of hunger to contest with. Also I was in a bad place having just lost my Mum so I wasn't hungry anyway. It's way harder now as I have a very healthy hunger and I'm in a good happy place; I tend to eat loads more when happy and when I'm sad stop eating. So it's a battle now but I'm trying to be realistic cos even it I stuck at 144lbs it's fine for my height. I just wanna get rid of a little bit of weight off my hips and I'm happy. I will try find a photo of me at my heaviest and at my lightest later to post. Anyone else got before and after pics?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on July 23, 2015, 03:39:36 AM
I think i'm at the age now where it's gonna be harder to stay healthy.

About 5 years ago I would walk 9 miles straight a night for a few weeks until I injured myself from pushing myself too hard.

But I didn't feel any better or look barely any different so I dunno.

It's not even like i stuff my face with snacks and junk food either.

My bro is the same - it took him about a year to lose 3 stone (42 lb ) and that was constantly working out and doing exercises and eating right.

But you can put it all back on in one week of bad eating... It's pretty shitty :P
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 23, 2015, 04:28:00 AM
Should we have a weekly check in or something? Like, every Sunday we post a weight update?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 23, 2015, 05:00:53 AM
Should we have a weekly check in or something? Like, every Sunday we post a weight update?

That's my plan.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 05:37:05 AM
That's a couple of hell setups boys.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Nekov on July 23, 2015, 08:28:57 AM
Chad, I was gonna say you disappoint me as a Canadian for using the imperial system, but then I read this on Wikipedia, so I guess it makes sense  :xbones

Quote
Imperial units are still used in ordinary conversation. Today, Canadians typically use a mix of metric and imperial measurements in their daily lives. However, the use of the metric and imperial systems varies by age. The older generation mostly uses the imperial system, while the younger generation more often uses the metric system.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2015, 08:42:41 AM
Should we have a weekly check in or something? Like, every Sunday we post a weight update?

That's my plan.

Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 23, 2015, 08:44:08 AM
Chad, I was gonna say you disappoint me as a Canadian for using the imperial system, but then I read this on Wikipedia, so I guess it makes sense  :xbones

Quote
Imperial units are still used in ordinary conversation. Today, Canadians typically use a mix of metric and imperial measurements in their daily lives. However, the use of the metric and imperial systems varies by age. The older generation mostly uses the imperial system, while the younger generation more often uses the metric system.

Never once have I heard any Canadian refer to their height in cm, or their weight in kg.  Those seem to be the only imperial holdouts.  Go to the doctor's office, and they take it in pounds and feet/inches; weights in the gym are in pounds; I have a 38" waist... no clue what that is in cm's.  Personal measurements and heavy weights are still imperial.

That must've been the only 'millennial' in Canada using cm/kg that typed that bullshit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on July 23, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
my gym uses weights measured in kilos instead of lbs.  Possibly because of the emphasis on oly lifting?  But every other crossfit gym I've ever visited uses lbs.  So I don't know . . .

because of that I'm pretty good at doing the conversion in my head almost instantaneously (not that it's very difficult in the first place). :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 23, 2015, 10:28:05 AM
because of that I'm pretty good at doing the conversion in my head almost instantaneously (not that it's very difficult in the first place). :lol

2.2 is pretty easy to convert on weights in multiples of 5 or 10.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: nightmare_cinema on July 23, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
Should we have a weekly check in or something? Like, every Sunday we post a weight update?

I'm game! Just not this Sunday as I'll be pissed in a field.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on July 23, 2015, 11:12:53 AM
because of that I'm pretty good at doing the conversion in my head almost instantaneously (not that it's very difficult in the first place). :lol

2.2 is pretty easy to convert on weights in multiples of 5 or 10.

yeah, hence my note about not being difficult, but we have smaller 2.5, 1, and .5 kilo plates as well
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on July 23, 2015, 02:51:40 PM
following and good luck!
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Post by: KevShmev on July 25, 2015, 11:22:17 AM
I'd down for this.  In fact, I told myself that I was going to do this after vacation (because it is impossible to eat well on family vacations :lol). 

The pisser for me is that I pulled a muscle in my trap a while back, which has never fully healed, so whenever I do even light lifting, it is sore the rest of the day.  I was in the 185-195 range for a long time, but am around 210 now (5'11"), and the thing is, I eat the same way I always have, but getting older and not being able to exercise as much takes its toll.  So yeah, I am pretty aggravated.  Time to get moving again. :tup :tup

Did some light lifting this morning, so we will see how this goes.  Hoping for no pain or soreness so I can start lifting like I used to again, which is essential for me because if it is very difficult for me to make myself eat better if I am not exercising regularly.  I need both going at the same time.
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Post by: Big Hath on July 25, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
8 rounds

5 burpees
10 kettlebell swings 53#
15 lunges while holding 53# kettlebell
400 M run

34:05

the last three rounds were painful
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 25, 2015, 02:21:05 PM
The 20 Hot Wings I had at BWW's last night should help shed some lbs..... ???
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Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
Had a bit of a blow out this weekend.  :-\  Gotta kick my ass back into gear tomorrow.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2015, 05:35:24 AM
Weigh-in coming shortly
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 26, 2015, 08:50:59 AM
179.3.

 I suppose eating out on both Friday and Saturday night wasn't such a great idea.  :(
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2015, 09:23:12 AM
214.2 for me... 26.2% body fat.  Well, that's pretty much my starting point.  Time to get really disciplined on my diet now.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
214.2 for me... 26.2% body fat.  Well, that's pretty much my starting point.  Time to get really disciplined on my diet now.

Are you taking any protein shakes/supplements?

Its good to double check what protein shake you are taking and look at the cholesterol levels in it.  I used to take one brand and then checked the cholesterol levels in it- they were sky high.  Switched brands after finding one that had zero cholesterol.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 04:31:11 PM
And how is body fat being measured here?...........with some sort of accuracy (calipers) or not (electro scales etc..)?
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2015, 05:47:28 PM
No protein shakes - not doing any lifting yet, so I'm not adding any additional protein - but when I do, it's with whatever brand Costco has.  I'll check the nutritional contents.  Thanks for the tip.  Supplement wise, I take L-Carnatine and Green Tea capsules, along with a regular host of vitamins (C, D, Multi, fish-oil).

My scale has BF% measurements too.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
It's been a while , but my research (I did my honors thesis on natural and not so natural sporting aids) indicated that Carnitine was snake oil.  And those body fat scales (I have some too, but don't bother) are of very limited use in my experience.  If you consider yourself overweight then I would be guessing a bit higher than 26% but anyway.......

Even if the reading isn't accurate then they can perhaps be of some comparative use , in which case it is essential that you weigh at the same time each day and keep your hydration extremely consistent.  If your hydration is all over the place then the method by which they work (conducting electricity) will be all over the place too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2015, 06:56:05 PM
Didn't know that about the Carnatine.  I got 'em cheap off of eBay, and at the time, every routine I was reading about, on a variety of different sites, were almost universally including it as part of the supplement package - so it wasn't just one site trying to hawk their shit (cough cough, bodybuilding.com, cough cough). 

As for the scale and BF%, agree 100%.  I totally know it isn't 100% accurate, but at least gives a trend.  Everytime I get disciplined in this, I always weigh myself once a week (usually Sunday or Monday), after 1 cup of coffee, and my morning movement. 
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Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2015, 05:23:07 AM
I always weigh myself once a week (usually Sunday or Monday), after 1 cup of coffee, and my morning movement.

Make you sure weigh yourself before and after the morning movement, just so ya know the weight of that movement.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2015, 06:02:17 AM
I always weigh myself once a week (usually Sunday or Monday), after 1 cup of coffee, and my morning movement.

Make you sure weigh yourself before and after the morning movement, just so ya know the weight of that movement.

I'll PM ya next week, k?
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Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2015, 06:15:34 AM
I said so you know, not me lol
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Post by: Chino on July 27, 2015, 06:43:43 AM
Welp... I pretty much failed miserably this weekend. Victoria and I hosted a beer making party yesterday and by the time all was said and done, I probably consumed 4000 calories once you factor in all the beer. Out of disgust, I didn't even bother weighing myself. I will take my first official progress weight this Sunday.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 27, 2015, 08:07:27 AM
Welp... I pretty much failed miserably this weekend.

Me too bro. Like I mentioned earlier....we ate out twice this weekend. But, my wife started this 'cleanse' deal last week where she drank 48 oz of cranberry water each day, no carbs and had smoothies with flax seed in it. She lost 11 lbs! I think I may have to give that an honest shot with those results.
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Post by: Chino on July 27, 2015, 08:42:53 AM
Did she eat anything else? That's a ridiculous loss. Her body must have been feeding from literally every fat reserve she has. Was she doing physical activity too?
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 27, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
Thats a lot of weight to lose in a matter of a few days
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Post by: KevShmev on July 27, 2015, 04:37:18 PM
11 lbs. is a lot, but it's pretty typical to lose a lot that first week when you suddenly go from eating poorly to eating well.  One summer, I lost 18 lbs in seven weeks, 6 of which were the first week, and then 2 every week after that.

As for me, I saw a friend I hadn't seen in a while on Saturday, and we had pizza, so I didn't do great either, but I did for most of the weekend aside from that. 
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 27, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Did she eat anything else? That's a ridiculous loss. Her body must have been feeding from literally every fat reserve she has. Was she doing physical activity too?

She walked three miles a day.


Thats a lot of weight to lose in a matter of a few days

It was exactly a week.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2015, 05:24:32 AM
Welp... I pretty much failed miserably this weekend. Victoria and I hosted a beer making party yesterday and by the time all was said and done, I probably consumed 4000 calories once you factor in all the beer. Out of disgust, I didn't even bother weighing myself. I will take my first official progress weight this Sunday.

Accept that it's happened and move on man, use it as motivation.


Did she eat anything else? That's a ridiculous loss. Her body must have been feeding from literally every fat reserve she has. Was she doing physical activity too?

Most of it would have just been water weight, not actual fat.

Chad, Carnatine is a scam mate, don't waste your money.  And don't focus too much on shakes, just eat real food.  I use a scoop after training but skip it sometimes if I feel like a slightly bigger meal.  One of my treats though is protein in yogurt, which is great.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 28, 2015, 05:48:38 AM
I've been really digging the Greek nonfat yogurt.  Shit is yummy and high in protein for 80 calories.  Mix that in a shake with protein and frozen fruit.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2015, 06:33:05 AM
I've been really digging the Greek nonfat yogurt.  Shit is yummy and high in protein for 80 calories.  Mix that in a shake with protein and frozen fruit.

Yeah, I've only been eating it the last few months.  Never had it in a shake but as I said, I usually have about 200g with a good solid scoop of protein powder.  Refregerate for a few hours and boom.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2015, 07:40:58 AM
When I'm lifting, I love 'proatmeal'.... one scoop of powder, along with 3/4 cup of instant oats.  Add a little honey or cinnamon for sweetness, and booyah.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on July 28, 2015, 11:36:37 AM
non fat greek yogurt is delicious!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 28, 2015, 09:10:23 PM
The company I work for just sent the e-mail below out system wide. I'm forming a team now....and at minimum think I'll get a crack at a few of the $100 prizes because I know I can drop 6%. Only bummer (because I privately challenged jingle.boy) is that the weigh ins are a month out so I'd really be doing myself a disservice dropping any weight right now. In fact, I may try to throw 5lbs on.

In 2009 my previous employer had a Biggest Loser challenge which I won. My starting weight was 185...ending weight was 151. I had went from 220 to 185 then plateaued for a few months then that challenge inspired me to lose more. Because there was a $400 first place prize. Anyway, I'm at or around 179 now...not far off from what I was before. I may tack on a couple more lbs before this challenge and then hit it hard again.





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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2015, 09:43:32 PM
Only bummer (because I privately challenged jingle.boy) is that the weigh ins are a month out so I'd really be doing myself a disservice dropping any weight right now.

(https://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nation.foxnews.com/files/styles/story_624_300/public/nelson_fox_haha.jpg)

No worries man... we can modify the rules of our personal challenge.
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Post by: Cable on July 28, 2015, 11:02:50 PM
Thanks for the thread Jingle.Boy!  :tup ;D I posted in the healthy 2015 thread at that other place, as I too did not see this here about a month ago. My original question was about what type of gym, but since then I have joined a standard chain gym.My health changes are multi-faceted, which has helped greatly for motivation.

I perhaps want to get in on this roll call action too. Do I PM you?
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2015, 04:38:15 AM
Nah... just post it.
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Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2015, 06:00:53 AM
When I'm lifting, I love 'proatmeal'.... one scoop of powder, along with 3/4 cup of instant oats.  Add a little honey or cinnamon for sweetness, and booyah.

You know what the fuck is up bitch.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2015, 06:04:04 AM
1st place team: $10,000

 :eek If your own health and self image isn't enough to motivate you, hopefully 10 G is! That's a sweet payout for a weight loss challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2015, 06:19:40 AM
1st place team: $10,000

 :eek If your own health and self image isn't enough to motivate you, hopefully 10 G is! That's a sweet payout for a weight loss challenge.

I think you'll be surprised.  I've worked with a few people that signed up to this sort of thing in the past, yet only to fall off the wagon after the second week.  The lack of focus and will power in some people is quite astonishing.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 29, 2015, 10:11:55 AM
I think you'll be surprised.  I've worked with a few people that signed up to this sort of thing in the past, yet only to fall off the wagon after the second week.  The lack of focus and will power in some people is quite astonishing.

That's what I'm counting on. I've cold turkey quit tobacco (cigs and chewing) now for 12 years and alcohol now for 6. Went from 220 to 151 lbs.....but all was done when I really buckled down and fired up the 'will power'

As a lot of you guys in this thread have said about your own situations, "it's time". Being that my exercise regiment has been altered due to the changes in my life (new home/location/job) within the past few years I've packed on about 15 lbs I "typically" don't carry. Been needing/meaning to tap will power on the shoulder and ask him if he's got a couple months to get me back in playing shape but haven't pulled the trigger. I think this challenge will do just that for me.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2015, 10:18:08 AM
Agreed about will power.  Eating is an addiction and like all addictions, it takes will power to overcome.  No one telling you to stop will make you stop, you have to want it. I've been overweight for the last 5 years since I last went hardcore and lost weight, due to my own will power to want to change.  The many years after I put the weight back on, I wanted to lose it, but did not have the will to do so.  I dont know why, but something clicked inside me that made me want to go through with it again now and here I am.  I am not weighing myself during this because I just don't feel like I want to be watching the scale and meet numbers, but I am in my fourth week now and I am one belt buckle tighter and some of my shirts that were once tight and now fitting nicely.  I feel good too, which is a good motivator to continue.  I am hoping that by Labor Day I will be in a better spot, but now I booked my Vegas vacation towards the end of September so I think is my new goal date for being in position to be at a pool and not feel uncomfortable about my body.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 29, 2015, 10:36:03 AM
I am not weighing myself during this because I just don't feel like I want to be watching the scale and meet numbers, but I am in my fourth week now and I am one belt buckle tighter and some of my shirts that were once tight and now fitting nicely.  I feel good too

Good point. I think it's less about "weight lost" and numbers and just about how you feel. Even when I was at my 'best' weight where I just felt good and was happy with 'my look'...I was technically 'overweight' given my height to weight ratio. I'm 5'-6" tall...which means not very  :lol But the ratio doesn't take in to effect that (not bragging at ALL) I'm fairly stocky with most of that being muscle mass...not fat. So even though I'm shooting for a # in weight....it's really just because I know that # is where I'm comfortable being for me and my body.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Chino on July 29, 2015, 11:16:06 AM
The only time I successfully lost weight was when I was weighing myself every day. It's the only way I could keep myself accountable.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on July 30, 2015, 12:20:12 PM
Weighed in at 232 yesterday.

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Post by: jingle.boy on July 30, 2015, 05:02:19 PM
Atta boy!
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Post by: JayOctavarium on July 30, 2015, 05:07:07 PM
My gym trips are going to become less frequent. My buddy, who is my workout partner, and also my ride to the gym, just started working full time.

With my company.

Every day, he is either my relief, or vice versa. lol
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Post by: wkiml on August 06, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
Not Exercise related but decided to get myself in shape via diet

Feb 1 2017 starting weight 304

as of this past Sunday   Aug 2 2017  248

Goal is 230 by year end

first couple months weight came off extremely fast, now averaging 1 lb per week. Have my annual check-up in August, hopefully get doctor approval to go back to the gym

Cardio is my biggest concern and the reason for stopping the gym back in January ( 2 bum knees )with have both been operated on and diagnoised with collapsed arches in my feet, due to carrying so much weight for so long I topped out at 360 lbs back in 2009



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Post by: TAC on August 06, 2015, 08:50:55 AM
Hey Bill, good to hear from you. Haven't seen you much around here it seems.

Congrats on the weight loss!!
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Post by: wkiml on August 06, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Hey Bill, good to hear from you. Haven't seen you much around here it seems.

Congrats on the weight loss!!

I've been busy with a promotion at work ( still lurk around a bit, just don't post as often)
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Post by: Chino on August 06, 2015, 09:07:40 AM
I've been eating really well and have exercised every day this week.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 06, 2015, 11:02:31 AM
My coworker today noticed I look thinner.  Probably because my shirts I am wearing are becoming much more loose on me.  The shirt I am wearing today is a shirt I had put in the closet permanently like a year ago because it became too tight.  So he might of noticed I pulled out an old shirt too.  My belt buckle is almost 2 notches tighter than when I started.  I can get it to two notches but its tight and when I put it only one notch ahead it is very loose.  It's also been one full month since I started my diet.  Still no soda and I cut out all the artificial sugar I used to consume.  I'm still feeling good and still going .
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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 06, 2015, 08:23:02 PM
My coworker today noticed I look thinner.  Probably because my shirts I am wearing are becoming much more loose on me.  The shirt I am wearing today is a shirt I had put in the closet permanently like a year ago because it became too tight.  So he might of noticed I pulled out an old shirt too.  My belt buckle is almost 2 notches tighter than when I started.  I can get it to two notches but its tight and when I put it only one notch ahead it is very loose.  It's also been one full month since I started my diet.  Still no soda and I cut out all the artificial sugar I used to consume.  I'm still feeling good and still going .

 :tup. Awesome!
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Post by: sylvan on August 06, 2015, 08:32:36 PM
Hey everybody. I'm a personal trainer and I just wanna say you all are doing awesome and keep up the hard work.

 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2015, 07:42:29 AM
Weigh in last week wasn't all that impressive - 213.2 ... only 1 pound loss.  Though, BF was down a few % points, so that was good. Problem was that last Saturday was a night out at friends... much food and alcohol consumption ensued.

Better week this week - 209 and BF down a full % point.  Feelin good 'bout that.

You better bring it when you get started Gary.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 09, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
You better bring it when you get started Gary.

Oh....it'll be broughted :fistpump: don't you worry your Canadian booty about it! Our team weigh in is August 28th, can't come soon enough cuz I'm anxious to really go full throttle.
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Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2015, 04:11:37 PM
I've gotten heavily back into IF over the last couple of weeks.  Anyone with control and discipline issues with food and portion control should try it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
I've gotten heavily back into IF over the last couple of weeks.  Anyone with control and discipline issues with food and portion control should try it.

I was doing an 8hr on/16hr off IF last time I was lifting, and really liked the results and how I felt.  Found it based of of Eat Stop Eat..  Lots of BCAA drinks in that 16 hour 'off' phase made it a breeze.

What's your cycle Kade?
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Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Pretty much the same, give or take.  Finish eating around 8-9pm and eat no earlier than 2pm the next day.  I'm not strict with the timing, but prior to that I went back to small frequent meals, and while I enjoyed the eating, it made food more of a priority to me.  I was thinking about it too much and getting hungrier, where as IF doesn't allow you to think about food and stop the over eating.  Was eating breakfast at 6am and then looking for more food an hour later.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2015, 05:31:54 PM
Cool. I was doing my feed from 9/10am-5/6pm. I don't think I could go until 2pm without eating. I like my breakfast.  My only "cheat" was a small piece of fruit or a yogurt in the morning if I was getting an early cardio workout in.

I prefer IF over 5-6 small meals. Just as you said, the latter takes too much thinking and planning in my books.
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Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2015, 06:04:34 AM
Yeah, everyone is different.  I don't think there is anyway I could stop eating by 5pm, I'm a night owl and like my big meals nice and late.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 10, 2015, 07:23:07 AM
After this weigh in I think I'm going to implement something I've rarely done. I'm going to exercise in the morning....before work/kids to school. I've tried to 'get in to' running/exercising in the morning in the past but never made a habit of it. But now, I don't think I have a choice given the craziness of our family schedule in the evening. I'm sure those of you who have kids know what I mean when I say that.....so, I'm going to try to get in to the habit of early morning exercise and then also try to get at least (3) nights in the week where I exercise also. I think that....along with correcting this ridiculous eating routine I have going on should shave some lbs off pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
After this weigh in I think I'm going to implement something I've rarely done. I'm going to exercise in the morning....before work/kids to school. I've tried to 'get in to' running/exercising in the morning in the past but never made a habit of it. But now, I don't think I have a choice given the craziness of our family schedule in the evening. I'm sure those of you who have kids know what I mean when I say that.....so, I'm going to try to get in to the habit of early morning exercise and then also try to get at least (3) nights in the week where I exercise also. I think that....along with correcting this ridiculous eating routine I have going on should shave some lbs off pretty good.

I've always wanted to try and train in the morning, but there is no way I can do it.  Can't train before 5pm.  What's the go with your eating routine?
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Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
I'd rather work out in the morning, but every time I set my alarm to wake up earlier I snooze it (and normally I am not a snoozer).  I just cant force myself to get up earlier it seems.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 10, 2015, 04:11:15 PM
What's the go with your eating routine?

Well...it's more that over the past three years I relented a bit on what I avoided the previous 5 years. I wouldn't touch sweets...now I don't shy away.....I hadn't drank soda in probably eight or nine years but now I drink it alot and my lunches are WAY out of control. I eat out for lunch every day at places like McAllisters...Penn Station....Jimmy Johns. I've probably raised my caloric intake by 1000-1500 calories a day over the past three years above what I was taking in. Plus....spending $50+ a week on lunch is just dumb.....

So, for starters and the easy thing is no more soda or sweets. those are fairly simple to knock out. Then, I'm probably looking at just consuming 300-400 calories for lunch. Some fruits and veggies probably like I did prior to the last couple years.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2015, 05:38:00 AM
That's the hardest thing, things can creep back in so easy without you really thinking about it.  You almost justify it to yourself that it's okay when in reality, it's stuff you shouldn't be touching.

Once you have it once, then you have it again and before you know it, it's part of your daily diet, so scary how it happens.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on August 12, 2015, 05:48:27 AM
I eat out for lunch every day at places like McAllisters...Penn Station....Jimmy Johns. I've probably raised my caloric intake by 1000-1500 calories a day over the past three years above what I was taking in. Plus....spending $50+ a week on lunch is just dumb.....

Ya know, since I started my diet, my wallet is a lot larger.  Eating oatmeal and lean cuisines is a lot cheaper than eating out.  I really do enjoy going out for nice meals whether for lunch at work, or for dinner with friends, but that expense does add up.  It's been a nice addition to the weight loss.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 12, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
My previous job at an architecture firm was ideal. Shower at work, ran 5 miles a day and ate a small salad.....done and done. So easy to maintain weight when I had that routine....plus I was running about three nights a week after work also.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gm5k on August 12, 2015, 03:33:38 PM
Just got a part time job being a handler at Fed Ex.  This job is kicking my ass back into shape  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2015, 04:35:07 PM
I eat out for lunch every day at places like McAllisters...Penn Station....Jimmy Johns. I've probably raised my caloric intake by 1000-1500 calories a day over the past three years above what I was taking in. Plus....spending $50+ a week on lunch is just dumb.....

Ya know, since I started my diet, my wallet is a lot larger.  Eating oatmeal and lean cuisines is a lot cheaper than eating out.  I really do enjoy going out for nice meals whether for lunch at work, or for dinner with friends, but that expense does add up.  It's been a nice addition to the weight loss.

Yeah, it's amazing the money you save.  The way I eat now, eating out for one meal would equate to about 3 days of eating at home now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: rumborak on August 12, 2015, 09:23:56 PM
Speaking of exercise, have you guys been following this "Fat Guy Across America" dude? It's this 500+lbs guy who decided to ride across the USA (from Falmouth, MA to Sacramento, CA supposedly).
Thing is, as much as one should cheer him on for this, the guy is horrendously clueless and unprepared. He doesn't even make the most basic plans for his trip. His wife joined him a few days ago, and she ended up in the ER today because they decided to ride through mid-80, 80%+ humidity weather. Hi bike already broke down twice in the short distance he's managed (he is still in Rhode Island, after more than two months in).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 13, 2015, 09:36:15 AM
That doesn't sound like it's going to work out for him
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on August 13, 2015, 09:46:00 AM
I would imagine riding a bike at 500lbs to be difficult, my ass already hurts on a bike and i weigh less than half of that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2015, 10:00:59 AM
I would imagine riding a bike at 500lbs to be difficult, my ass already hurts on a bike and i weigh less than half of that.

Think of how the bike must feel!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
Speaking of exercise, have you guys been following this "Fat Guy Across America" dude? It's this 500+lbs guy who decided to ride across the USA (from Falmouth, MA to Sacramento, CA supposedly).
Thing is, as much as one should cheer him on for this, the guy is horrendously clueless and unprepared. He doesn't even make the most basic plans for his trip. His wife joined him a few days ago, and she ended up in the ER today because they decided to ride through mid-80, 80%+ humidity weather. Hi bike already broke down twice in the short distance he's managed (he is still in Rhode Island, after more than two months in).

Actaully sounds like entertaining viewing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on August 13, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
Death By Pull Ups tonight

one pull up the first minute, two pull ups during the second minute, etc.  Made it through 17 rounds.  153 total pull ups.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2015, 04:42:47 AM
Death By Pull Ups tonight

one pull up the first minute, two pull ups during the second minute, etc.  Made it through 17 rounds.  153 total pull ups.

Mother of god.  I'd be lucky to make it to 2 minutes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 14, 2015, 08:11:32 AM
Death By Pull Ups tonight

one pull up the first minute, two pull ups during the second minute, etc.  Made it through 17 rounds.  153 total pull ups.

Mother of god. I'd be lucky to make it to 2 minutes.

Yeah....my strong suite is not upper body anything. Cardio stamina I have tons of......anything upper body is a challenge for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2015, 08:36:12 AM
When I was doing P90x routines, I could do 8-10 pullups period.  P90x is great - gonna do a cycle Oct-Jan.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
does anyone do planks?

I've been working on them the last few months, always a tough thing to do
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2015, 04:44:29 PM
does anyone do planks?

I've been working on them the last few months, always a tough thing to do

Yeah, I work them in to my workouts occasionally at the moment; more heavily when I was lifting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Never do planks.  Pull ups on the other hand are a magic exercise.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on August 14, 2015, 09:39:17 PM
Never do planks.  Pull ups on the other hand are a magic exercise.

I'm feeling the magic today, let me tell ya
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2015, 03:54:02 AM
That' what it's all about haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 16, 2015, 05:48:10 AM
Not a good weigh-in this week - +2lbs.  Possibly due to jingle.kids birthday, and cake/chocolate.  Only did it on their birthday though, so I thought on 'cheat' day would be ok.  Might've slacked a little on water consumption too.  Gotta get real disciplined on tracking my calorie intake - I've been slacking in that department, thinking that I've been in the right range, but clearly something is off.

Travel/conference this week isn't going to help things much.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2015, 06:24:18 PM
Not a good weigh-in this week - +2lbs.  Possibly due to jingle.kids birthday, and cake/chocolate.  Only did it on their birthday though, so I thought on 'cheat' day would be ok.  Might've slacked a little on water consumption too.  Gotta get real disciplined on tracking my calorie intake - I've been slacking in that department, thinking that I've been in the right range, but clearly something is off.

Travel/conference this week isn't going to help things much.

Bro, I know, it's so hard.  You really can't slip up with anything.  It seems one little thing out of routine just goes straight on, had that experience myself over the weekend.  Cheat days can be very dangerous.  I did have McD's last night though and am paying the price at the moment.  Feel like shit now.  Gonna only have 2 small meals today to counteract it.  I'm on a week off from work now though which makes it more difficult also.

Maybe if you are travelling, you can try and do a bit of IF to help.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 16, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
I need to allow myself a pizza once a week or two.....thats my go to "cheat" meal I guess.  I really never want McD's or Burger King again.....just feel sick after that stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2015, 09:18:57 PM
I really never want McD's or Burger King again.....just feel sick after that stuff.

It's funny, I know what it does to me, but when I need a cheat, I find myself going back there again and again.

Not really a big pizza guy anymore either.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on August 17, 2015, 05:56:41 AM
So I guess I am not the only one who cheated this week.  I did so well M-F last week and not so bad Saturday, but yesterday was the only day I did not work out at all and I ate poorly, and had a couple drinks in the evening... oh well.  Not going to kill me or anything, just wishing I did not eat those Cheez its last night lol.  Going to be pretty hardcore today because I may not get to work out tomorrow night since I have a date after work  :biggrin: and then I will keep it good until Saturday where I will cheat again since I have a wedding in Atlantic City.

That's been my only problem with my dieting, I have had a couple weddings in the time frame, birthday bbqs, free meals at work, 4 concerts.... its hard NOT to cheat at these events.  At the end of the day, I've lost and am still losing weight so all is good, just difficult to manage when you are around food and drink and good people.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2015, 06:08:28 AM
So I guess I am not the only one who cheated this week.  I did so well M-F last week and not so bad Saturday, but yesterday was the only day I did not work out at all and I ate poorly, and had a couple drinks in the evening... oh well.  Not going to kill me or anything, just wishing I did not eat those Cheez its last night lol.  Going to be pretty hardcore today because I may not get to work out tomorrow night since I have a date after work  :biggrin: and then I will keep it good until Saturday where I will cheat again since I have a wedding in Atlantic City.

That's been my only problem with my dieting, I have had a couple weddings in the time frame, birthday bbqs, free meals at work, 4 concerts.... its hard NOT to cheat at these events.  At the end of the day, I've lost and am still losing weight so all is good, just difficult to manage when you are around food and drink and good people.

Try and be careful with this too.  Tempting food is never too far behind on social occasions.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on August 17, 2015, 06:12:18 AM
So I guess I am not the only one who cheated this week.  I did so well M-F last week and not so bad Saturday, but yesterday was the only day I did not work out at all and I ate poorly, and had a couple drinks in the evening... oh well.  Not going to kill me or anything, just wishing I did not eat those Cheez its last night lol.  Going to be pretty hardcore today because I may not get to work out tomorrow night since I have a date after work  :biggrin: and then I will keep it good until Saturday where I will cheat again since I have a wedding in Atlantic City.

That's been my only problem with my dieting, I have had a couple weddings in the time frame, birthday bbqs, free meals at work, 4 concerts.... its hard NOT to cheat at these events.  At the end of the day, I've lost and am still losing weight so all is good, just difficult to manage when you are around food and drink and good people.

Try and be careful with this too.  Tempting food is never too far behind on social occasions.

I think not eating on a date is easy since I dont want to come off as a pig, more worried about drinking more than one beer to help with he nerves of a date.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2015, 06:48:17 AM
 :lol  Fair enough mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 17, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
So I re-weighed myself this morning, and was back at 209... Flat over last week.  Must've been retaining water on Sunday morning or something. Here in Arizona, and I'm gonna do my deck-of-cards workout outside tomorrow morning. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2015, 10:02:00 PM
and I'm gonna do my deck-of-cards workout outside tomorrow morning. Wish me luck!

What's that?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on August 17, 2015, 10:17:36 PM
typically you pick four exercises and assign each one to a suit.  Whatever card you pick determines the exercise and the number of reps.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2015, 10:20:30 PM
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Jack = (https://www.jackdaniels.com/sites/default/files/MD1_small.png)


and so on.........
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 17, 2015, 10:26:43 PM
What Hath said, not Brent.
For me, one routine is sit-ups, push-ups, burpees, and jumping-jack squats.  Nothing too outrageous, but in 39' C temperature, it oughta do the trick. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2015, 06:10:48 AM
King = (https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/0/0f/Burger_KING_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20110829155859)

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2015, 06:12:44 AM
OK then .......I'll Aussiefy it for you :lol

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King = time for some spelling lessons.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on August 18, 2015, 06:14:22 AM
Heres the last deck-o-cards workout I setup for clients:
30 mins, as many cards as possible. Reps match the number on the card. "Heavy" for 1-5, "Light" for 6-10.
Hearts- Wall Balls 20/12 lbs
Diamonds- Rower calories x2
Spades- TRX Pushup Lo/Hi
Clubs- KB Swing 30/25 lbs
Red Face- Sit-ups 15
Black Face- Planks 30s
Ace- Burpees 10
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2015, 06:16:32 AM
OK then .......I'll Aussiefy it for you :lol

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2015, 06:21:37 AM
Heres the last deck-o-cards workout I setup for clients:
30 mins, as many cards as possible. Reps match the number on the card. "Heavy" for 1-5, "Light" for 6-10.
Hearts- Wall Balls 20/12 lbs
Diamonds- Rower calories x2
Spades- TRX Pushup Lo/Hi
Clubs- KB Swing 30/25 lbs
Red Face- Sit-ups 15
Black Face- Planks 30s
Ace- Burpees 10

Never heard of this before, now 2 of you guys have brought it up.  Interesting idea though.  If I had a client I'd make a joker or something a whole fucking circuit of everything just to be an ass and place a few extra in there haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on August 18, 2015, 08:47:36 AM
Heres the last deck-o-cards workout I setup for clients:
30 mins, as many cards as possible. Reps match the number on the card. "Heavy" for 1-5, "Light" for 6-10.
Hearts- Wall Balls 20/12 lbs
Diamonds- Rower calories x2
Spades- TRX Pushup Lo/Hi
Clubs- KB Swing 30/25 lbs
Red Face- Sit-ups 15
Black Face- Planks 30s
Ace- Burpees 10

Never heard of this before, now 2 of you guys have brought it up.  Interesting idea though.  If I had a client I'd make a joker or something a whole fucking circuit of everything just to be an ass and place a few extra in there haha.

I had one client pull all the Aces and like 10 face cards. That's just bad luck ;). Structure and periodization are good, but every once in a while you have to just do work, son.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2015, 10:23:29 PM
I quite like that concept.

Just finished my meal and now about to head off to train.  Focusing on total upper and lower body days at the moment.  Mon, Wed, Fri upper and Tues and Thur lower.  Been focusing on the usual Mon-chest, Tue-Back etc. routine for so long now, I need to hit body parts 2-3 times a week, with focus more on compounds.  I think I'm missing so much opportunity especially in my legs, which are so weak for my size.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Cable on August 19, 2015, 09:00:25 PM
Alrighty, my status.

CableX
Start Weight: 275 max.
Current Weight: 259 to 266 - my digital scale is apparently terrible. Too hard to do the balancing scale at the gym solo.
Goal Weight 1: 239
Goal Time: January 31st, 2016
Goal Weight 2: 219
Goal Time: July 1st, 2016


My goals are spaced apart to maintain big picture, obtainable goals with conservatively reasonable expectations. My eating is still a slow challenge, but one that is better than it used to be. I am 33, and 6'0 tall. No major health concerns or conditions. I cannot power walk/jog without pain, due to ankle conditions. This will be addressed soon, but does not impact workouts as explained in next paragraph. Mental health wise mild mood swings bomb focus at times. These are times I indulge in at least caffeine, and then often food from said caffeine joint. The food used to be about a 95% certainty, now it might be 50-60%.

I started working out at a gym in the middle of July I think, which solves my ankle dilemma. After initial advice from the employee who signed me up, and the hoodwink free "assessment" trainers, I have incorporated weight training. I am trying to do the _____ day thing, but run out of weight machines. But I am trying to do a legs, arms, and core deal rotation. Cardio is every time.

I was 8 days straight off the wagon, and felt my mood plummet afterward. Factoring in that time period, I'm averaging at least 4 days a week since starting. Minus that week, probably a solid 6 day a week average. I get about a full hour in, ensuring I'm cardio'ing at least 30 minutes. I started doing the sauna afterwards when I don't go in the morning- really trying to do that instead of after work.

As an addition, I faux rock climb for about 1-2 every week. Overall, I am pleased with my results physically and mentally.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Keep it up bro.  The food is definitely the hardest, be strict but don't beat yourself up too much, as long as you can see you are making progress and are able to make yourself accountable, you'll do good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 02:01:37 AM
keep it up!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on August 20, 2015, 06:10:40 AM
I also have ankle issues.  Been dealing with tendinitis for the last two years and one of the reasons I wanted to lose weight since I figured less pressure on my feet would lead to less pain (and actually since I started, there has been NO pain at all in my feet).  I use an exercise bike and no running/walking to keep the pressure off of my ankles.  It seems to be working.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Cable on August 20, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
Thanks all!  ;D

I also have ankle issues.  Been dealing with tendinitis for the last two years and one of the reasons I wanted to lose weight since I figured less pressure on my feet would lead to less pain (and actually since I started, there has been NO pain at all in my feet).  I use an exercise bike and no running/walking to keep the pressure off of my ankles.  It seems to be working.

I was told mine was due to the way my feet plant. Long story, but the only way to really correct it is custom shoe inserts I guess. So I'm highly prone to ankle twists. I don't think mine are tendonitis caused, but my ligaments are probably destroyed.
Having pain after any jumping or jogging was really discouraging, so I reckon we can sympathize. 

I cannot vouch for the same results yet, but at least the ellipse riders and weights don't destroy them. My pain is minimal at best, and that is usually only after a weird stride or something on a machine. I prefer the ellipse to bikes for some reason. Does anyone know if ellipse machines are as effective at burning weight as running and biking are? My heart rate is high enough on the ellipse, but I feel cheated because the distance is very short in comparison.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on August 20, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
Sadly, my goal of exercising regularly and losing weight has been derailed.  Since working sitting down again, I've had fairly constant neck and upper back soreness, and I have now reached the point to where any exercise results in quite a lot of pain for days.  My posture when I sit at work is a big part of it, which I have tried to rectify lately, but the soreness continues (and the occasional migraine, too). I am actually in search of a new M.D. and might get an MRI to see if I have a pinched nerve or something that needs more than just rest or better posture.  It sucks, but it is what it is.  And unfortunately, I am one of those people that just cannot make myself eat right if I am not exercising regularly, so I guess I will be stuck in the 205-210 range until I get whatever this is fixed and/or feeling better.  It's no fun getting old. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2015, 11:10:46 PM
It's no fun getting old. :lol

Tell me about it.  I 'popped' something in my right shoulder blade twice in the last two weeks - once while stretching my neck on a plane ride home; the other time opening the coffee carafe to empty it.  :lolpalm:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 06:57:49 AM
It is always those dumb little everyday things that pull you up sometimes haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on August 21, 2015, 11:06:35 AM
I need to tone up slightly and add about 10 lbs of solid muscle, and I think I'll be pretty happy.

My roommate and I are starting Insanity (a 2-month high intensity cardio program) on Monday. I did it last year and got into terrific shape. Got really tone and athletic, but didn't lose weight, meaning I traded some fat for muscle. Not much bulk though - one downside of cardio programs. I would highly highly recommend Insanity for anyone who has fat burning goals. It doesn't take much time each day (about 40-60 minutes), you can do it at home, the program is only two months...but you will get real results.

Then we plan to do p90x (3 months). Maybe another round of p90x after that. I'm 150 now, hope to be 157 by next summer. My goal physique is Aaron Marino's. He's 152 at 5'6, and I'm 5'7 - 5'8.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
Couple of good programs there H.  Done both of them more than once in the past.  Insanity is exactly that!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 21, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
I'm contemplating doing Insanity again. I've done it twice....but the last time by the end my right ankle and left knee were barking pretty good. That was about 2 years ago. But, it may just be the regiment I need to stay on top of consistently exercising these next three months during our work Weight Loss Challenge.

But I really think the thing that'll make or break my weight loss is diet. It's a MUST to get this  :censored under control. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 01:59:48 PM
But I really think the thing that'll make or break my weight loss is diet. It's a MUST to get this  :censored under control.

(https://i.imgur.com/ijMTWeK.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 21, 2015, 02:06:57 PM
But I really think the thing that'll make or break my weight loss is diet. It's a MUST to get this  :censored under control.

(https://i.imgur.com/ijMTWeK.gif)

 :lol     I guess that is a pretty 'no sh%t' statement  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
People underestimate diet and overestimate the amount of activity.  It doesn't matter how many hours of relentless exercise you do, if you eat too many calories than you're burning, you'll still gain weight.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2015, 05:46:48 PM
I wouldn't even want to know how many calories would be in a whopper and fries. The amount of cardio to burn just that off would be huge
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 05:56:03 PM
I wouldn't even want to know how many calories would be in a whopper and fries. The amount of cardio to burn just that off would be huge

The whopper and fries over here would be around 1200-1400 calories I think, depending on how many fries.  In reality when people go to a McDonalds or the like, what they would order would be around up to 3/4 of their daily intake, possibly more, depending on the order.  Add a shake to that and you're looking at 1600-1800 calories.

If I decide I'm going to have McDonalds or something for dinner, I usually only have a protein bar or a protein shake during the day, as I'll easily bust 2000 calories at the drive through.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 05:57:01 PM
I wouldn't even want to know how many calories would be in a whopper and fries. The amount of cardio to burn just that off would be huge

Whopper - 660 (37g of fat)
Large Fries - 500 (28g of fat)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 05:58:42 PM
I wouldn't even want to know how many calories would be in a whopper and fries. The amount of cardio to burn just that off would be huge

Whopper - 660 (37g of fat)
Large Fries - 500 (28g of fat)

Damn, I was pretty spot on.  I know my take aways.  :\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
Yikes. Change the fries to a poutine here in Canada and throw in a shake, and that's over the top
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 06:27:13 PM
Yikes. Change the fries to a poutine here in Canada and throw in a shake, and that's over the top

I had to google this, looks nasty.  I'm all for the gravy but cheese curds? Hmmmm..
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2015, 06:35:00 PM
It's huge in Canada. It is tasty but a major artery clogger

Not to be eaten in excess lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 08:54:43 PM
Poutine is awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on August 22, 2015, 02:11:16 PM
If I decide I'm going to have McDonalds or something for dinner, I usually only have a protein bar or a protein shake during the day, as I'll easily bust 2000 calories at the drive through.
I couldn't do that; the McDonald's just wouldn't be filling. I'd walk away hungry. Better to just avoid McDonalds, I think, or to just have a free-for-all cheat day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on August 22, 2015, 02:51:26 PM
Question for you fitness guys, on goal setting.

I'm sitting at 150lbs, 13% body fat, with an ultimate goal of getting to a lean 157lbs at 8-10% body fat within the next few years. That of course involves a net increase in weight gain, with some fat loss but mostly muscle gain.

I'm starting Insanity on Monday, which I know is not ideal for muscle growth, but it is great for getting lean and athletic. I know for a fact that my body responds well to it because I did it last year. I recognize that, given my goals, it would be more efficient to do a resistance program like p90x first, but whatever. I have the DVD set, am in the mood for doing Insanity again, and I want to do Insanity with my fitness neophyte friend Kyle. It's only two months and I know I'll love the results. So Insanity it is.

Anyway, my question is -- given my goals, and given that I shall be doing Insanity for the next two months, what should be my daily caloric goals? Should I aim to lose (2100 cals), maintain (2600 cals), or gain (2900 cals)? If I aim to lose, that would guarantee major fat loss, but also muscle/strength loss. If I maintain, I can expect a positive transaction from fat to muscle, but I'm not sure how significant the change would be, given that this is a cardio-intensive program. If I aim to gain, I'm not sure what to expect there either.

I am tempted to just aim to maintain, because dieting sucks, and I'd love to have the most energy I can spare to get through these tough workout with all I can give.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
I'd add calories.  Doing Insanity not only burns a shit-ton of calories itself, but it likely will accelerate your normal metabolism, so you'll be burning more all day long.  That's my opinion ... and completely unprofessional.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2015, 03:44:44 AM
I've never done any of those programs before, had no interest in them so it's hard for me to comment.  I've lost all my weight with diet and strength training, with next to no cardio.  My strength has only increased too.

At the moment, I'm completetly intuative with my intake, and it seems to be working.  Some days though, carbs and or fat may be too low and therefore I increase just enough to get my energy back.

I think though since you are doing the difficult thing of adding muscle yet burning body fat, eating at maintenance would be the way to go.  As Chad said, maybe 100 calories or so over, but nothing more than that I'd say.  If you are at any defeceit, mathematically you're gonna lose weight.  Again, I can't comment, I don't use scales at all, just what I see in the mirror.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on August 25, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
Thanks guys! Based on talking from some other people, I think I am just going to eat plentifully and "by feel" without worrying about it. It will probably end up being a caloric surplus, but I'm going to take the risk. Let you know how it goes. I've gotten through two days so far.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2015, 08:47:02 PM
I've taken that more intuative approach and seemed to be less stressed over it all.  When I thought I was counting right, I wasn't really losing fat like I should have anyway, which is what I was aiming for.  I think keep your foods super clean and a good amount of protein with heavy strength training and use the mirror as your guide.  Maybe take measurements too, I do that sometimes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 28, 2015, 04:28:03 PM
Official weigh in was today for our work weight loss challenge. I weighed myself this morning prior to pigging out and stuffing myself all day for the 'official' one. This morning I was at 173.1 lbs. But, my official weigh in weight for the contest was 188.6. What's funny is I held my um.....movement.....all day until after I weighed in as well. I took care of that and out of curiosity weighed myself and was at 177.2  :lol  That's one heck of a crap!

So, Starting at 188.6
12 weeks from now I hope to be at least in the 170-172 range.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2015, 04:33:58 PM
So, Starting at 188.6
12 weeks from now I hope to be at least in the 170-172 range.

Very achievable.  Should be able to smash that in the 8-10 week range.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 28, 2015, 05:23:34 PM
So, Starting at 188.6
12 weeks from now I hope to be at least in the 170-172 range.

Very achievable.  Should be able to smash that in the 8-10 week range.

I think so to. I'm gonna get at it!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on September 01, 2015, 02:57:47 AM
So my exercise/fitness trend has come to a screaching halt now that I am traveling for work.  Besides having no time to work out, I also have essentially unlimited free food on these trips and my boss loves to make sure we take advantage of that.  One day in and I've eaten terribly and I know its not going to stop.  I will be hitting my bike hard when I get home next weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
So, Starting at 188.6
12 weeks from now I hope to be at least in the 170-172 range.

Very achievable.  Should be able to smash that in the 8-10 week range.

You should be able to smash through that in the 3-4 week range since your true "starting" weight is somewhere between 173 and 177
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 01, 2015, 09:14:21 AM
So, Starting at 188.6
12 weeks from now I hope to be at least in the 170-172 range.

Very achievable.  Should be able to smash that in the 8-10 week range.

You should be able to smash through that in the 3-4 week range since your true "starting" weight is somewhere between 173 and 177

as we discussed via text....there was a typo in this....(the bolded)

Official weigh in was today for our work weight loss challenge. I weighed myself this morning prior to pigging out and stuffing myself all day for the 'official' one. This morning I was at 183.1 lbs. But, my official weigh in weight for the contest was 188.6. What's funny is I held my um.....movement.....all day until after I weighed in as well. I took care of that and out of curiosity weighed myself and was at 187.2  :lol  That's one heck of a crap!


As far as me reporting weight loss in this thread....I'm using 182 as my 'starting weight'.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 04, 2015, 02:56:52 PM
Weighed in this morning at 176.4. That's 12.2 lbs down for my work competition.......realistically though it's more like 5.8lbs down this week. I've only missed one night running and I've drastically altered my caloric intake.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2015, 03:13:55 PM
I must have the shittiest metabolism ever.

I have like two slices of toast for brekkie. A very small lunch and a medium sized dinner and I mostly only drink lemon tea or coffee.

Yet my pedometer says I walk 6 miles a day AT LEAST and after several months of this I barely look or feel any different.

You hear of people walking 20 mins a day and after a month they've lost like 900 stone.

I look exactly the fuckin same.

:emo:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 03:43:22 PM
You must still be eating too many calories bro.  The whole metabolism thing IMO is overrated.  The cardio is overrated IMO, you can cut simply on diet with minimal exercise.  Take a look at your diet again;

What are you having on the toast?
How small exactly is your lunch?
What's in your lunch?
Do you have milk in your coffee?
Are you snacking on things between meals that you are not thinking about?
Is your dinner really a medium size and what's in it?

If you can't cut your food down, then you need to up the intensity in your exercise, just walking doesn't really burn as much as what you'd think.

No trying to be an ass either bro.  You can list exactly what you eat and it might give us a better idea if you like.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2015, 03:49:39 PM
Lunch is pretty shitty but it's like a sausage and a few chips. But I work in a cafe so I eat whats available. Sometimes I don't even have lunch.

Breakfast is toast butter and jam usually.

Dinner is usually pasta with sauce and small amount of cheese.

I'm not into sweets as such. But yeah I do have some now and then as everyone does. And I have a couple cans of coke during the day too.

I know the coke is terrible. It's not like i'm gorging on sweets between meals and guzzling litres of cola.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
p.s. I walk pretty fast too and i'm not really overweight to begin with.

Last time I checked I was like 175 lbs and i'm 5'8" tall.

Which the BMI says is "borderline" but i've been told that it doesn't account for how you're built.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 03:59:56 PM
Yeah, you're diet's not the best man, and especially if you work in a cafe, that can create all sorts of problems, especially if you have the ability to snack.  People snack while cooking and don't count it in and still eat their regular meals and wonder what's going on.

My first piece of advice is cut the coke, or switch to calorie free, it adds up man, trust me, that was the first thing I did and was a great kickstart.  That shit is nasty and the sugar is toxic to how the body functions. 

You need protein too, you don't eat any besides one sausage at lunch.  You want to burn fat, start getting some meat or protein or some kind.  Don't get me started about your lack of veg either.  Even though I said I think metabolism is overrated, your not doing yourself any favours but just eating carbs and coke dude, your body won't change eating so junk.  Here's my simple advice to start you off with your meal plan.

Breakfast - Cut down to one piece of bread and cook a few eggs with some tomato or any other veg.

Lunch - Keep this same for now, maybe add another sausage and less chips.  Add some greens also.

Dinner - Half the amount of pasta and replace that with a chicken breast or something.  And add some veg or a salad.

Cut the soft drink and watch the snacking.  These simple changes will help.  Also watch what you put on your food too.  Sauces and dressings sometimes have an insane calorie content.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on September 04, 2015, 04:01:04 PM
Insanity going good. Definitely improving performance-wise. Don't see anything visually yet. (The factor I care about the most.  :biggrin:)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 04:02:07 PM
p.s. I walk pretty fast too and i'm not really overweight to begin with.

Last time I checked I was like 175 lbs and i'm 5'8" tall.

Which the BMI says is "borderline" but i've been told that it doesn't account for how you're built.

Yeah, you're not that overweight at all.  That's what makes it harder to, you're at a point where if you really want to cut down more effort and change is needed.  Really overweight people lose easily just with a few changes because they have so much to go.  The less body fat you have, the harder it is to lose.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2015, 04:06:21 PM
It may sound bad but I eat a lot of veg too because we prepare salads for meals so I have slices of cucumber or tomatoes or lettuce here and there :P

I usually eat fuck loads of fruit too. I forgot to mention that :lol

But yeah the cola is the hardest thing to cut out since it's my favourite soft drink besides this amazing new lemon & ginger tea I've discovered :o

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
It may sound bad but I eat a lot of veg too because we prepare salads for meals so I have slices of cucumber or tomatoes or lettuce here and there :P

I usually eat fuck loads of fruit too. I forgot to mention that :lol

But yeah the cola is the hardest thing to cut out since it's my favourite soft drink besides this amazing new lemon & ginger tea I've discovered :o

This wouldn't help either bro.

Sounds a pain, but you really gotta take notice of how much you actually eat.  maybe keep a log or food diary which can help too.  And definitely take notice of what you put in while you are preparing the food, it would add it to more than you think.  Everything adds up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2015, 04:14:24 PM
Ah well I mainly eat fruit to stay healthy. Not for any fitness reasons :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on September 04, 2015, 06:43:41 PM
The whole metabolism thing IMO is overrated.   

 

Totally disagree.  The faster your metabolism moves, the easier it is to lose weight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on September 04, 2015, 07:08:22 PM
^ Yup.  Metabolism plays a huge part.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Cable on September 05, 2015, 06:39:38 AM
Insanity going good. Definitely improving performance-wise. Don't see anything visually yet. (The factor I care about the most.  :biggrin:)


Awesome! "Just keep swimming."  ;)

As slow as my results are, the performance is my happiest by-product. More so to me still, energy and mood regulation. Health and Fitness was always part of the coping strategies I sold to clients, but never fully went at it myself. I am pleasantly amazed what it does on that end.

So at the end, if right you are just noticing performance gains, that is still a bonus.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2015, 03:29:51 PM
The whole metabolism thing IMO is overrated.   

 

Totally disagree.  The faster your metabolism moves, the easier it is to lose weight.

^ Yup.  Metabolism plays a huge part.

But, people use this as an excuse too easily.  It doesn't matter how fast my metabolism is, it doesn't mean I can eat a shitload more food.  Point is, no matter how fast your metabolism is, if you eat too many calories you'll put on weight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2015, 04:59:45 PM
I literally only eat when i'm hungry. Even then it's barely anything. Plus I walk about 10 miles a day. Pretty briskly too.

I spend hours every day at work carrying things around - sometimes walking down and up the hill ( about 300 yards ) when we need something from the supermarket.

And yet. I've worked there for 3 months and *barely* seen any results.

Ehh. Maybe I need to cut down on pasta :p
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Progmetty on September 18, 2015, 12:14:21 PM
Workout folks, my 80 gig iPod classic of 12 years is finally giving out on me so I'm retiring it to iPod Florida (car-only duties) and looking for a new smaller portable music player, I know it would be too ambitious to find something small and over 16gig at a good price, recommendations?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on September 18, 2015, 01:37:09 PM
Workout folks, my 80 gig iPod classic of 12 years is finally giving out on me so I'm retiring it to iPod Florida (car-only duties) and looking for a new smaller portable music player, I know it would be too ambitious to find something small and over 16gig at a good price, recommendations?

Your phone?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Progmetty on September 18, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
It's a Samsung Galaxy S3 and it doesn't have enough space for music or good software to play it, besides it's not small enough to workout with.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on September 18, 2015, 02:18:32 PM
It's a Samsung Galaxy S3 and it doesn't have enough space for music or good software to play it, besides it's not small enough to workout with.

I was sure the S3 had an SD card slot so for some money you could add a 64GB card (maybe like 30 bucsk without looking) but that doesnt solve the size problem although I don't see how that is to large, they make arm bands or whatever.  My coworker has one for his s3 then s5 and now s6 that he uses for working out.  That's my best sugestions, much cheaper than any other solution and then you have your music wherever you are.  I can't imagine life without music on my phone now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on September 18, 2015, 09:42:13 PM
I can't imagine life without music on my phone now.

Yup... I specifically got the 128GB iPhone 6 so that I could hold my library.  My last iPhone was (only) 64GB, and anytime I bought a new album, I had to think about what I would need to delete to get it to fit.

God help me when my 160GB iPod classic goes!

Back to the question though... I have no idea.  Use the Galaxy and get a pair of bluetooth wireless headphones?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on September 19, 2015, 02:00:01 PM
Kept with Insanity for about 4 weeks now. I can tell that the program has really helped both my body composition and my proportions. Though I don't have much muscle or definition, I feel much better "shaped" after a month of this program. Flexibility is higher too - I don't get the lower back pain that I used to.

I've been eating whatever I want, too - a mix of healthy and unhealthy stuff, no real rules or regulations.

I'd highly recommend Insanity to anyone who is trying to get in balanced shape. It doesn't take too much time each day, and you don't have to go to a gym to do it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 19, 2015, 05:07:21 PM
Hey Chad.....

183.1 on 9/28
172.8 this morning

10.3lbs in 22 days.


As far as my work competition goes I'm down a total of 15.8lbs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2015, 06:39:19 AM
Hey Chad.....

183.1 on 9/28
172.8 this morning

10.3lbs in 22 days.


As far as my work competition goes I'm down a total of 15.8lbs.

Yeah, well...  I guarantee you're winning our bet.  My body isn't responding too well.  Didn't get too much working out in this week, and was over at friends last night munching on stuff and a couple of glasses of wine.  Plus two concerts are putting a crimp into my discretionary time.

Glad to hear things are going awesome for you.  Hopefully there's that payoff at the end too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on September 20, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
I love to go on walks to listen to new mixes. It's the best way. You're 100% focused on the music when walking around with headphones on and can spot anything that needs fixing.

At least for me. :)

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2015, 05:24:18 PM
Hopefully there's that payoff at the end too.

Our team total % lost right now is "only" at 4.4%. I say only because there is a team killing it at 8.9% and I don't think they can be beat. Meaning, there was plenty of um..uh...cushion for the pushin' when they started and it appears they are really in to it. Only three of the five people on our team at this point are throwing a solid effort at it. I'm pretty confident I'm going to drop the 20lbs I vowed to drop but at this point I'm not expecting the big pay day. Pretty sure I'll qualify for $100 gift card for losing over 6% and if I can get to and keep off 12% for six months I can recoup my $70 buy in.

I'm just happy that this work challenge was the thing I needed to kick my butt into gear.

Hopefully you can get some things to line up for you to get a regiment and schedule in place to get to your goal.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
We'll see.  I'm not overly optimistic given some recent turns of events.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: snapple on September 20, 2015, 10:01:22 PM
230lbs end of May. 184lbs now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2015, 10:13:58 PM
We'll see.  I'm not overly optimistic given some recent turns of events.

Sounds like it's time to catch up again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
230lbs end of May. 184lbs now.

:clap: that is awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: snapple on September 21, 2015, 08:34:04 AM
230lbs end of May. 184lbs now.

:clap: that is awesome!

Mostly from working 12-16 hour shifts and not eating. I've sort of plateaued because I'm trying to eat a little more so I don't put the weight on as fast as I've lost it. So I'm looking for foods that will make me feel full, or that I can snack on pretty well without doing too much harm. I've done smoothies, and they help a lot. But it's when I'm at home that I get into trouble.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on October 09, 2015, 10:09:06 AM
I'm finding with my metabolism and exercise routine that I simply can't eat enough to gain much more weight.  I just don't have the appetite and I already feel like I am eating all day long.  Lately I've been making a "weight gainer" shake a couple of nights a week:

12 oz whole milk
1 scoop of ice cream
2 tablespoons of peanut butter
1 banana
2 scoops protein powder
1 cup of oats
1 cup of ice

comes out to about 1300 calories and 95 grams of protein
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 09, 2015, 10:15:03 AM
Weighed in on Wednesday......168.2.    Down 20.4lbs since August 28th and only 3.2lbs from being where I'd like to be. Now I'm starting to get greedy and gonna try to shoot for 160. Our work weight loss challenge goes to November 20th, so...until then I'm going to stick with what's been working and see where I end up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2015, 10:34:04 AM
Jesus, Jon.  That's a ton!  But, good for your situation and goals.

Was gonna start p90x last weekend, but being the old fart I am, I tweaked my back so had to push it off.  Gonna start on Sunday.  Didn't quite make my Oct 1 goal of being at 200... I'm down to 205, so 9lbs in 2 months - not terrible, but not what I was aiming for.  So long as I can stay on track with p90x, I know that program delivers results.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on October 19, 2015, 08:33:34 PM
You're starting P90x too? Nice! I'm gonna start the week after you. I'm on the last week of Insanity. It has been Insane. I didn't quite get ripped, but I think that has more to do with lack of muscle than actual leanness. I actually gained about 5 pounds (though I ate decently).

Congrats to gmillerdrake for the weight loss! Bet you feel a lot better.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 19, 2015, 09:22:34 PM
Congrats to gmillerdrake for the weight loss! Bet you feel a lot better.

Thanks Bro! I do. The biggest difference I can tell is that my running pace is definately getting back to where I was a couple years ago. I'm street running around an 8:00-8:30 minute mile and my trail,runs have been around 9:00 miles.....and i haven't had that pace in a while. It's not like I'm breaking records, it's not anything special but it just 'feels' good. It's amazing what dropping some extra lbs will do for you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2015, 10:05:53 PM
I'm finding with my metabolism and exercise routine that I simply can't eat enough to gain much more weight.  I just don't have the appetite and I already feel like I am eating all day long.  Lately I've been making a "weight gainer" shake a couple of nights a week:

12 oz whole milk
1 scoop of ice cream
2 tablespoons of peanut butter
1 banana
2 scoops protein powder
1 cup of oats
1 cup of ice

comes out to about 1300 calories and 95 grams of protein

Amazing shake, must taste incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2015, 10:15:20 PM
Just finished my first week of p90x, and it feels good.  Quite achy, but in a good way.  I paced myself - it's been 5 years since I did a session of this, and the body just ain't what it used to be.  So, I (wisely) paced myself and didn't push too hard.  Also didn't start the ab routines yet - again, part of my pacing.  And I just don't have the disposable time to be able to do it 6 days a week - so it's gonna be more like p120x :lol.  Plus my travel schedule throws things out of whack a little.

After this round, I think I'll hammer out a round of Insanity in the spring, then get into a more regular weightlifting routine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:01:01 AM
Even though I've been hell consistent with my training, I don't think I could commit to one of those programs, just a different style tha I don't think is for me.  If the results are legit though, they are great programs.  I dot my own HIIT cardio anyway which should cover it.  Of course, not as intricate as these, they certainly would hurt.  Keep it up man.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on October 20, 2015, 08:44:40 AM
I'm finding with my metabolism and exercise routine that I simply can't eat enough to gain much more weight.  I just don't have the appetite and I already feel like I am eating all day long.  Lately I've been making a "weight gainer" shake a couple of nights a week:

12 oz whole milk
1 scoop of ice cream
2 tablespoons of peanut butter
1 banana
2 scoops protein powder
1 cup of oats
1 cup of ice

comes out to about 1300 calories and 95 grams of protein

Amazing shake, must taste incredible.

I love it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:13:53 PM
I'm finding with my metabolism and exercise routine that I simply can't eat enough to gain much more weight.  I just don't have the appetite and I already feel like I am eating all day long.  Lately I've been making a "weight gainer" shake a couple of nights a week:

12 oz whole milk
1 scoop of ice cream
2 tablespoons of peanut butter
1 banana
2 scoops protein powder
1 cup of oats
1 cup of ice

comes out to about 1300 calories and 95 grams of protein

Amazing shake, must taste incredible.

I love it.

Unfortunately, I've been on a cut so this would be over half my calories for the whole day. 

I never had the problem of putting weight on.  You should think yourself lucky.  I look at a piece of cake or pizza and I feel it go right round my gut. If I have something like that, I really have to manage my calories around it, which is a pain.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
No shit... when I'm in a deficit phase, my calorie goal is 1800-2200.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
No shit... when I'm in a deficit phase, my calorie goal is 1800-2200.

Yep, 1800-2000 for me.  Loving my protein shakes at the moment.  Have to as the calories add up way too quick.  :lol
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Post by: Ħ on October 20, 2015, 10:27:00 PM
However you compare Insanity to the good ol' gym, there's nothing quite like having Shaun T yelling at you to "jack it out."
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
That guy does seem legit.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 21, 2015, 01:04:35 PM
So for a while now, I've been using a couch to 5K program to help me get accustomed to building up endurance for running.  Man, getting out at lunch and running along the river is really surprisingly freeing.  Sure, I get exhausted, but it feels good to just go and think about nothing else but bitchin' tunes in my ear and a downriver breeze.

Today, I had an idea to download a metronome to my phone.  I have a habit of often trying to match pace to the different the tempos of whatever tune is playing.  So I figured if I have a metronome ticking in the background, I can set myself a specific pace to try to follow, so that I don't speed up or slow down and maybe it would help keep me focused.  I set it for 140 bpm and that's not too bad.  I'll keep it at that for a little while before I start trying to increase it a little.  Although beautiful days like today aren't going to happen much more often this year and I have ZERO motivation to get out and run when it's cold out.

I'm still getting the hang of all this and I really only get (or make) the time to get out and run a couple times a week.  I'm pleased with myself that I survived two 10 minute jogs today at 140 bpm.  Got a lot of work to do, and I totally want to.  For now, I'm happy knowing that I'm making some sort of effort to do better for myself.

City Island in Harrisburg (an island in the middle of the Susquehanna River, home of the Harrisburg Senators baseball team AND stadium, parking, and a walking bridge to and from the Harrisburg side of the river) - the loop around it is .8 miles.  I made that in 10:44 today, which was my best time yet (according to Strava, which I really like).  Yay me!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 21, 2015, 01:42:37 PM
 :tup :tup
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 21, 2015, 10:23:53 PM
Did chest/back tonight.  Man these workouts kick (my) ass.  But, I'm already seeing gains on the reps.
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 06:38:16 AM
Good shoulder day today.  A nice 30kg dumbbell shoulder press in there too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2015, 09:00:43 AM
Good shoulder day today.  A nice 30kg dumbbell shoulder press in there too.

Sweet.  I remember days of doing 60lb DB presses.

*le sigh*

Will get back there eventually.
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
Never give up bro.  You can do it.  :tup
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 26, 2015, 12:46:18 PM
164.0 on the nose weigh in this morning....down 24.6lbs in this challenge with 25 days to go. I can see 160lbs so I'm gonna take a shot at it....

Looking forward to this Trail Half Marathon I'm running this weekend now that I've shed those lbs I wanted to lose. I run this race every spring and it's a brutal Trail Run...nothing flat at all it's all hills....It's called the "Quivering Quads" for a reason....but I'm looking forward to running it now that I'm lighter and have been running more. The spring run this year was rough. On top of the fact I was 24lbs heavier...there was about 6 inches of snow and ice on the trail. this saturday should be nice running conditions.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
I'm trying something new with my diet as from yesterday.  About 95% of my carbs are going to be consumed post workout.  I train at around 5pm so my food up til then will just protein shakes, meat and green veg.  After training I consume potatoes, yoghurt, oats and whatever else.  Sounds like bro science, but I'll try anything.  Combine it with some light IF and see what happens.
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Post by: Ħ on October 26, 2015, 09:25:23 PM
That sounds tough, wolfking. How do you function with so few carbs??
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 05:51:17 AM
That sounds tough, wolfking. How do you function with so few carbs??

Second day in and feeling pretty okay.  Through the day is really quite tough.  I never thought taking the carbs out of my meat and veg meals during the day would be so difficult.  I make up for it at night post workout though.  I generally go quite low carb anyway, but moving all carbs to around 8pm is a challenge by that stage.  I'll add carbs in again on the weekend too to refeed.  Just have to be mentally tough, protein shakes also, and LOADS of water.  My workouts though, surprisingly have been good these past two days also.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2015, 09:03:41 AM
Wolf, what's your goal weight?
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
Wolf, what's your goal weight?

I don't have a goal weight really.  It's down to body composition and definition now.  I've come a long way, and my goal is a decent looking six pack.  In the mornings I can see the top two, but have a nice layer of fat still on my mid to lower abdomen.  My chest is coming along and back is looking quite good.  This is the hardest part.  The lower your fat levels, the harder it is to lose.  I don't even know what my weight is.  I think it's around 170-175 pounds, so I don't want to drop any more, but probably have to a couple more pounds of fat.  I don't mind losing the weight as long as I'm maintaining my strength in the gym, which I am at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Prog Snob on October 28, 2015, 05:01:50 AM
I have a combination for the best diet plan to lose weight with minimal exercise and it was completely unintentional.  I was about 205 last summer and now I'm 165. The trick is simple. Go through an unrelenting depression which precludes any desire for eating. Get a job with New York City Transit because the amount of steps I go up and down on a daily basis with a bag on my back that's easily 40-50 pounds is ludicrous. Don't be hatin!   ;D   
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2015, 05:09:41 AM
I have a combination for the best diet plan to lose weight with minimal exercise and it was completely unintentional.  I was about 205 last summer and now I'm 165. The trick is simple. Go through an unrelenting depression which precludes any desire for eating. Get a job with New York City Transit because the amount of steps I go up and down on a daily basis with a bag on my back that's easily 40-50 pounds is ludicrous. Don't be hatin!   ;D   

Whatever works man.  People underestimate how much a busy lifestyle can impact on your ability to shove food in your face.  It's not the best way, but it's certainly a positive.  Don't be down though brother.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Prog Snob on October 28, 2015, 05:23:43 AM
I have a combination for the best diet plan to lose weight with minimal exercise and it was completely unintentional.  I was about 205 last summer and now I'm 165. The trick is simple. Go through an unrelenting depression which precludes any desire for eating. Get a job with New York City Transit because the amount of steps I go up and down on a daily basis with a bag on my back that's easily 40-50 pounds is ludicrous. Don't be hatin!   ;D   

Whatever works man.  People underestimate how much a busy lifestyle can impact on your ability to shove food in your face.  It's not the best way, but it's certainly a positive.  Don't be down though brother.

I'm not down anymore and feel better than I have in a long time. I was being facetious.   :D   

Now I'm trying to gain some weight back. I'm an ectomorph so gaining weight is ridiculously hard.  As far as exercise I don't have time for a gym, so I'll be using bodyweight exercises at home. 
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Post by: snapple on November 18, 2015, 08:07:37 AM
I'm down to 175. Goal is 160. If only I could quit the booze!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on November 18, 2015, 12:38:42 PM
Submitted my final weigh in for our company weight loss challenge. Official weigh in weight on August 28th was 188.6 lbs. Official weigh out weight on November 10th was 161 lbs for a total loss of 14.63%

Ran 5 Miles or more a minimum of 4 times a week, most of the time it was 5 days a week
I eliminated all Carbs (the easy ones to identify like chips, fries, bread etc.) Altered my breakfast and lunch intake. Breakfast was an EAS Protein shake, (2) scoops of the powder is 150 calories plus I threw a bananna in there. My lunches everyday were a handful of 'baby' carrots, a hard boiled egg and a 160z Equate Weight Loss drink. didn't really alter my dinner intake much as far as 'what' I ate but I did alter the portions.

I accomplished what I wanted and that was get back to where I was 2 years ago prior to having my 'routine' interrupted and thrown off by building a home. I am going to stick with this new routine for a while....or as long as I can.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
That's awesome Gary.   :tup :tup

I'm still plugging away, almost through Phase 1 of my p90x session.  I'm getting results, just not seeing/feeling it yet.  As I recall last time I really dedicated to a fitness and nutrition routine, it took about a month to kick my body into gear.  So, now I'm gonna get really disciplined with nutrition, and get the outcome I'm aiming for.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 18, 2015, 03:08:43 PM
Great job!  :tup
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Post by: Ħ on November 21, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Congratulations, Gary! :)
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Post by: KevShmev on November 21, 2015, 10:12:42 PM
Nice work, Gary!  :tup :tup

Sadly, my goal of exercising regularly and losing weight has been derailed.  Since working sitting down again, I've had fairly constant neck and upper back soreness, and I have now reached the point to where any exercise results in quite a lot of pain for days.  My posture when I sit at work is a big part of it, which I have tried to rectify lately, but the soreness continues (and the occasional migraine, too). I am actually in search of a new M.D. and might get an MRI to see if I have a pinched nerve or something that needs more than just rest or better posture.  It sucks, but it is what it is.  And unfortunately, I am one of those people that just cannot make myself eat right if I am not exercising regularly, so I guess I will be stuck in the 205-210 range until I get whatever this is fixed and/or feeling better.  It's no fun getting old. :lol

Update: I had sciatica problems, which came to a head about two months ago when it bothered me so much, I had pain in my upper left leg (quad, hamstring, glute) and I had to take an anti-inflammatory steroid for 10 days to get rid of the pain. Since then, I have gone to a physical therapist about 7-8 times and that has helped big time.  I have tons of awesome stretches I do every day now, and I have lifted the past three days with no pain afterwards (except the normal soreness from lifting), so I am hopeful that I can finally get back in the habit of exercising regularly and finally getting under 200 lbs again (which I haven't been under since the spring of 2013).  Here's hoping!!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on November 21, 2015, 10:31:24 PM
Hope that does the trick Kev. Back problems are a friggin nightmare. Fortunately thus far I've been lucky and not had any up to this point in my life but my wife has a bulging disc that she's received (2) cortisone shots for......if it acts up again it's surgery. And, a good buddy of mine just had two vertebrate fused together last week due to a bulging disc that the Dr. told him was one of the worst cases he'd seen. He's 38.

Having witnessed my wife when she was in tears and couldn't move to visiting my buddy last week.....I'm thankful for not having had to suffer that pain and feel horrible for those of you who've had to.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 21, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
Dang, a bulging disc sounds awful. :(  Hope she is doing better soon!!  Oh, and your buddy too of course.  :coolio

For me, it is very encouraging that the soreness is like 5% of what it was even a month ago, when I had days where I could feel a bit of soreness in my lower back around the waistline and glutes, to the point where walking fast was even difficult at times.  I felt like such an old man. :lol :lol  To be feeling better and exercising again is so exhilarating! And I know that even losing just 10 lbs (20 is the goal) will take so much pressure off of my back and sciatica, so it is win-win all-around.  Gonna be tough with the holidays coming up, and not being as young as I used to be :censored, but it is mind over matter...so long as Father Time doesn't punch me in the face again any time soon. :lol :lol

Plus, we are moving offices soon, and we will be minutes from a gym that has a giant pool, so I will be ditching Club Fitness and joining that gym and trying to swim as much as possible.  It will be easy to just pop in for a quick swim after work at 5. :hat
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Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2016, 09:04:37 AM
Update: sciatica pain did not come back in my back at all, but it did in the upper part of my left hamstring and groin, to where it has felt for two months like I have a slight groin pull.  Anti-Inflammatories are giving some relief lately, but they are just a temporary fix (I DO NOT want to take them regularly, and you should not anyway). 

To that end, I began Crossfit this morning.  Just completed the first workout a bit ago and am still baked in sweat. :lol :lol  But these workouts should help out my flexibility and mobility a ton.

Oh, and to prove once again that diet is what matters most when it comes to losing weight, I am down 15 lbs since January 1st, even though I have barely exercised since then.  I still eat whatever I want most of the time, but it's all a matter of portion sizes and not snacking in between meals and whatnot. Just a couple lbs away from being under 200 for the first time in over three years. :coolio
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Post by: Big Hath on May 22, 2016, 09:00:56 PM
To that end, I began Crossfit this morning.  Just completed the first workout a bit ago and am still baked in sweat. :lol :lol  But these workouts should help out my flexibility and mobility a ton.

 :tup

what was your first workout?
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Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2016, 09:07:15 PM
A bunch of little stretches and stuff to get us warmed up and then the WOD was:

500 meter row
40 squats
30 sit-ups
20 push-ups
10 pull-ups

I got through most of it, but hit the wall about halfway through the pushups and was lucky to finish them; I felt like I was going to vomit (which is not unusual when you work out your legs really hard).  I did not do the pull-ups.  :lol

My legs are on fire today...and tomorrow is going to be worse. :eek :eek

Already signed up for the On Ramp Squat workout Tuesday evening.  :coolio

As long as my sciatica doesn't cause my leg and groin pain to flare up, I am sticking with this.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 22, 2016, 09:29:57 PM
sounds good.  Those body-weight exercises are deceptively tough.  I've been doing crossfit for about 3.5 years or so.  As long as you stay consistent, you'll see a big change.


We had a tough one yesterday

1 round of
100 double unders
30 body blasters (1 burpee + 1 chest-to-bar pull up + 1 knees to elbows = 1 body blaster)
10 power cleans at 65% of your 1 rep max

then
2 rounds of
50 double unders
15 body blasters
5 power cleans at 70% of your 1 rep max

then
3 rounds of
25 double unders
10 body blasters
3 power cleans at 75% of your 1 rep max


body blasters suck.  And those cleans got really heavy.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2016, 09:31:43 PM
I don't know what most of those are yet :lol but I will learn. My brother has been doing Crossfit for like five years now, so I know what to expect.  I have no desire to lift heavy and do all kind of crazy stuff; I am too old to be doing that crap and injuries will be befall me if I do.  I just want to get more fit and flexible.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2016, 09:51:47 PM
Oh, and to prove once again that diet is what matters most when it comes to losing weight, I am down 15 lbs since January 1st, even though I have barely exercised since then.  I still eat whatever I want most of the time, but it's all a matter of portion sizes and not snacking in between meals and whatnot. Just a couple lbs away from being under 200 for the first time in over three years. :coolio

Good work mate.  Do you know how many calories you are hitting daily, and what your target deficit is?
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 22, 2016, 11:15:02 PM
The county aka my new employer is big on health and wellness. They are giving away free Fitbits to people who get a wellness checkup at the employee clinic, and log their physical activity for like 2 weeks.  The main Government Center is right across the street from me and has walking paths around and through it. I am going to start bringing my shoes and walking at lunch :)
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Post by: KevShmev on May 23, 2016, 05:42:36 AM
Oh, and to prove once again that diet is what matters most when it comes to losing weight, I am down 15 lbs since January 1st, even though I have barely exercised since then.  I still eat whatever I want most of the time, but it's all a matter of portion sizes and not snacking in between meals and whatnot. Just a couple lbs away from being under 200 for the first time in over three years. :coolio

Good work mate.  Do you know how many calories you are hitting daily, and what your target deficit is?

Not really; I just know that I have drastically cut the number I take in per day.  I still treat myself to a pizza every couple weeks and some good BBQ once a week, but I am good most of the rest of the time.  And with the workouts starting again, I will bust out the whey and start doing protein shakes again.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 23, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
Summer is here and I've been working on getting my beach bod ready.  Seriously, no beach bod for me, but almost 2 full months into my "getting back in shape after last summer" and I am feeling much better about myself.  Typically I just ride my exercise bike and might add in some dumbbell exercises.  Been pretty strong with my diet too.  Typical day:

One pack of oatmeal for breakfast
A lean cuisine (or similar) for lunch
A strawberry/banana protein shake after my after work workout
Something very light for dinner, maybe a grilled chicken breat and vegetables, maybe just a pack of oatmeal.  Usually small and simple, no carbs with the dinner.
And then if I am starving later at night, my snack is a fiber one 150 calorie bar and if I am hungry at work I have a large container of mixed unsalted nuts.

Haven't had a single soda in almost 2 months now and no alcohol Sunday-Thursday.
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Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2016, 12:21:43 AM
Oh, and to prove once again that diet is what matters most when it comes to losing weight, I am down 15 lbs since January 1st, even though I have barely exercised since then.  I still eat whatever I want most of the time, but it's all a matter of portion sizes and not snacking in between meals and whatnot. Just a couple lbs away from being under 200 for the first time in over three years. :coolio

Good work mate.  Do you know how many calories you are hitting daily, and what your target deficit is?

Not really; I just know that I have drastically cut the number I take in per day.  I still treat myself to a pizza every couple weeks and some good BBQ once a week, but I am good most of the rest of the time.  And with the workouts starting again, I will bust out the whey and start doing protein shakes again.

That's cool mate whatever works for you keep it up.

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Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2016, 12:27:59 AM
I've been lifting and dieting for a while now and have really focused on my macros and caloric intake lately.  I'm pretty lean with my top two abs starting to show.  Getting rid of the bottom stubborn fat on the abdomen is very difficult.  This is what my diet is consisting of at the moment.  Max caloric intake through the week is 2000 calories.

1pm - Protein Shake
3pm - Huge garden Salad with 100g of shredded chicken
6:30pm - post workout Protein shake made with fat free milk
7:30pm - 350g - 450g of grilled chicken breast, 150g sweet potato and an abundance of green beans and any other greens I can find. Amount is determined how hungry and how hard I trained
9:30pm - 300g natural yoghurt, chia seeds and protein powder with some sugar free syrup or half a protein bar cut up sprinkled over the top

BCAA's, coffee and a sugar free energy drink through the morning and at least a gallon of water every day.

Weekends I eat one meal and a dessert from 6:00pm onwards maxing out at 2500 calories, but eating whatever I want within that amount of calories.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 25, 2016, 06:06:50 AM


Already signed up for the On Ramp Squat workout Tuesday evening.  :coolio

 

We ended up doing On Ramp Press last night, since one of the other two people in the class last night had already done squats.

Press, push press & clean and jerks.  Feeling sore again today. :coolio
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Post by: Big Hath on May 25, 2016, 08:50:44 AM
we're in the middle of a strength cycle on push press, deadlift, and back squat.  doing the 5-3-1 plan.
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Post by: axeman90210 on May 25, 2016, 08:55:57 AM
I'm really looking forward to allergy season being over so I can get back to running (allergy induced asthma). I'm doing the elliptical indoors for now, and it's OK (and gives me extra time to catch up on TV), but nothing beats a good run while listening to something heavy.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 31, 2016, 07:25:30 PM
Four crossfit workouts now and it hasn't killed me yet, although my legs are hating me right now after the On Ramp Squat workout I just did. :eek :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on May 31, 2016, 09:33:03 PM
just wait until you try to sit on the toilet tomorrow.  You'll wish you had handicap rails in your bathroom. :lol
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Post by: Ħ on May 31, 2016, 10:59:54 PM
Got my bench up to 190lbs x 3 today. Feeling stronger than ever!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on June 01, 2016, 06:00:18 AM
just wait until you try to sit on the toilet tomorrow.  You'll wish you had handicap rails in your bathroom. :lol

:lol

Honestly, as long as my back is fine, meaning I didn't hurt it with improper form, I can deal with majorly sore legs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: axeman90210 on June 01, 2016, 07:23:19 AM
just wait until you try to sit on the toilet tomorrow.  You'll wish you had handicap rails in your bathroom. :lol

I remember the day after my first Insanity workout. Went to sit down for my morning constitutional and nearly fell over :lol :lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2016, 07:16:06 PM
Got my bench up to 190lbs x 3 today. Feeling stronger than ever!

That's pretty much where I am.  Solid 85kg for 3 reps.

Just worked it out, shit exactly the same haha, give or take a pound or two.  I've been up towards the 90kg mark, but form was lacking.  I'm making sure the motion is controlled and slow and lowering the bar pretty much down to the chest.  I'm cutting a lot of body fat and my caloric intake isn't that big, but I'm edging towards heavier weights, so I'm happy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on June 04, 2016, 10:30:26 AM
Four crossfit workouts now and it hasn't killed me yet, although my legs are hating me right now after the On Ramp Squat workout I just did. :eek :lol

The On Ramp Deadlift Thursday night was quite taxing. I like the ring rows a lot.

Just finished the last On Ramp class, the Olympic lifting one.  Doing box jumps and wall balls was fun.

And I joined up to do three classes a week, so away we go. :tup :tup
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Post by: Big Hath on June 04, 2016, 07:01:08 PM
awesome stuff.

This morning we did 225 pound deadlifts and burpee-box-jumps in a rep scheme where it's 10 deadlifts and 1 burpee-box jump, then 9 and 2, 8 and 3, etc until you get to 1 deadlift and 10 burpee-box-jumps.  And after each mini-round of 11 reps we ran 200 meters.
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Post by: KevShmev on June 04, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
Running is the part I am dreading about crossfit.  I see a lot of people from there doing runs on the nearby streets as part of their workouts, but a) I hate running, and b) I hate running on the street since it is horrible for your knees. I will likely just do the rowing machine every time they want us to run.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on June 04, 2016, 07:35:43 PM
Registered for a marathon today, October 2nd. I've ran (1) Full a marathon back inn2010 (and literally dozens of half marathons) and told myself I'd run another one when I turned 40.

Well, I turned 40 in January and skipped out on the spring marathon schedules which left the fall schedule. I tried talking myself out of it because I've had some pretty good knee aches going on even with my light running schedule now (5 miles 3 or 4 times a week) and I'm fairly certain I have some plantar fasciitis in my left foot....it's not overly brutal at this point but the symptoms are definitely P.F.

But, I set that goal for myself a while ago and I'm not going to wimp out on it. Just gonna be smart training and not focus on a "time"'per say....more just a respectable finish.
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Post by: KevShmev on June 04, 2016, 09:56:06 PM
Oof, plantar fasciitis sucks something awful.  Gary, go to Fleet Sports up across from St. Anthony's on 21 and get some inserts from shoes. They will make all the difference!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 05, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
Oof, plantar fasciitis sucks something awful.  Gary, go to Fleet Sports up across from St. Anthony's on 21 and get some inserts from shoes. They will make all the difference!!

That's the plan. I get a sweet discount on New Balance shoes (best friends wife works for them) so I'm going to snag me a new pair of running shoes and grab a good insert.

Additionally, I'm only doing a 9 week training schedule starting on Aug. 1st... (the last week being really light). The one I ran in 2010 I did a 16 week training schedule and I was flat wore out by the time the race came around AND the I.T. Band in my left leg went crazy two weeks before the race which sucked big time and almost forced me to quit 15 miles in. With me already logging 15-20 miles a week for the past six years I don't think I need to really push it all that much....just focus on my long runs to build up endurance. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on September 02, 2016, 11:43:11 PM
couple of PRs this week which is always nice

190 pound push press
390 pound deadlift

tried 400 lbs on the deadlift and actually got the plates a centimeter or two off the floor.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Cyclopssss on September 03, 2016, 03:29:18 AM
After about 18 months of inactivity, I'll start training in a gym tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2016, 06:09:32 AM
So yeah, I ended up not sticking with Crossfit.  It was rough on my back, and I don't need that at my age (42 then, 43 now).  At this point in my life, I am content with the occasional workout just to try and keep limber.  Quite a contrast for me, considering I worked out 3-5 times pretty much every week from 2002-2013.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 05, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
One month to go until the Full Marathon. Around the 13 mile mark of my 15 mile training run on Saturday I was really questioning why the  :censored I signed up to run another full marathon. I've only ran (1) full marathon and that was in 2010 and I was 20lbs lighter and had WAY less running miles on my knees.

But...I reminded myself that this was a personal goal and challenge and this isn't about proving anything to anyone but myself....as this is and will be more of a mental battle than a physical challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on September 30, 2016, 11:41:51 AM
One month to go until the Full Marathon. Around the 13 mile mark of my 15 mile training run on Saturday I was really questioning why the  :censored I signed up to run another full marathon. I've only ran (1) full marathon and that was in 2010 and I was 20lbs lighter and had WAY less running miles on my knees.

But...I reminded myself that this was a personal goal and challenge and this isn't about proving anything to anyone but myself....as this is and will be more of a mental battle than a physical challenge.
You got it! I believe in you!

I got a bit stronger from last time. I've been doing "Starting Strength" and I've gained about 6 pounds.

stats:
  Height: 5'7
  Weight: 161lbs (from 155lbs)
  body fat: ~15-16%
  Bench - 195x5 (Higher than it's ever been.)
  Press - 115x5
  Pendlay Row - 85x5 (I just added these and I suck. I just don't understand how I am supposed to pull the weight with my back. When I add weight, I feel major tension in my hamstrings just to maintain balance. - I can do 15+ pullups with strict form, so I don't know if it's a muscle weakness, or a coordination issue, or what.)
  Squat - 200x5 (I had to go down when I realized I was 'cheating' with bad form.)
  Deadlift - 265x5 (Higher than it's ever been. I am realizing the trick is to just shoot up from the floor with maximum power.)

Eating about 3000 calories, gaining about 1lb per two weeks. My tentative goals: 165lbs, two-plate bench for reps, two-plate squat for reps.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Prog Snob on September 30, 2016, 11:52:22 AM
I'd like to put on some more muscle and lose whatever fat I have on my stomach. I've bounced around with my weight over the last year and a half. I went from 205 (too high but I was drinking massive amounts of beer) down to 155 (heartbreak and stress) and now I'm around 170-175. If I can turn what little body fat I have into muscle, I'll be set. I just need to do it on a budget. I can pretty much cut out carbs, though pasta will be really fucking hard to stop eating. I eat a lot of chicken and vegetables so that's helpful. Now I'm hungry.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 30, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
One month to go until the Full Marathon. Around the 13 mile mark of my 15 mile training run on Saturday I was really questioning why the  :censored I signed up to run another full marathon. I've only ran (1) full marathon and that was in 2010 and I was 20lbs lighter and had WAY less running miles on my knees.

But...I reminded myself that this was a personal goal and challenge and this isn't about proving anything to anyone but myself....as this is and will be more of a mental battle than a physical challenge.
You got it! I believe in you!


Thanks!  :tup

Sunday is the day....weather is looking good....upper 60's low 70's....ready to get to it and get it done!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on September 30, 2016, 12:12:38 PM
Good luck! I couldn't imagine doing that length this time of year. Brutal hear in FL.

I'm just coming back from bad hamstring injury. The miles are tough, but getting easier. My pace is improving without pain, which is the main focus right now. I need to do some speed work to really get it firing properly again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: axeman90210 on September 30, 2016, 01:24:15 PM
Been making some progress with this lately as well. At my absolute worst last fall I was somewhere between 230 and 235, and for most of this year I have been mostly in the 220-225 range, occasionally breaking down into the high teens. Ever since my run of little summer excursions finished though I've been good about my exercise and as of last weekend I was down to 210 for the first time in a while. Next goal is to get back under 200.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 02, 2016, 02:54:14 PM
DONE!!!   So glad to have knocked off the 'run another full marathon when I'm 40' from the bucket list. First 13.1 I felt great....finished that half in 2hrs 6 min. But around mile 16 my knees and right ankle decided to remind me that I'm 40 and have logged quite a few miles and they were barking hard. Final overall time was 4hrs 45 minutes.


Highlight was definitely having the kiddos and wife at the finish line!!

 (https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/gmillerdrake/B9CDEC47-C270-40D1-B754-D39293A3599B.jpg) (https://s791.photobucket.com/user/gmillerdrake/media/B9CDEC47-C270-40D1-B754-D39293A3599B.jpg.html)


They even jumped in and ran the last little stretch with me

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the signs they were holding... (my middle son in the red shirt is on a kick of making ridiculous faces when getting pictures taken)

(https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/gmillerdrake/5B832A3D-4355-4CA5-A23B-6C743F78602F.jpg) (https://s791.photobucket.com/user/gmillerdrake/media/5B832A3D-4355-4CA5-A23B-6C743F78602F.jpg.html)



And the medal. Really cool and heavy, it's some sort of metal and I dig the gold finish.

(https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/gmillerdrake/3C2888E6-B6EF-4C2E-B8C8-2761D20E82E8.jpg) (https://s791.photobucket.com/user/gmillerdrake/media/3C2888E6-B6EF-4C2E-B8C8-2761D20E82E8.jpg.html)


Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on October 03, 2016, 05:12:11 PM
That's awesome, Gary. Nice job!! :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 04, 2016, 04:55:57 AM
 :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2016, 05:30:49 AM
Congratulations!  Good on ya, man.  Very impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on January 09, 2017, 03:53:31 PM
Just a quick heads up: DO NOT do crunches. It's not as bad as doing squats with improper form, but it's close. The minimal at best fitness benefits weighed against the potential damage makes it not worthy of your time or effort. If you guys are gonna put the work in, I wanna see you have some success. When it comes to the basic of abdominal workouts, functional sit-ups and planks/side planks are great. Those things are always great, just get more complex and are part of a longer list of exercises as you get more fit. Push-ups are terrific for your entire shoulder complex, and so are Pullups. That covers your chest, shoulders, biceps, triceps, lats, and multiple back muscles.

Can you explain what a functional sit up is?  When I do sit ups I use a work out bench on decline and maybe hold weights on my chest.  Is this bad for me?  Been awhile since I did these  :lol

A functional sit-up would be on the ground, lying flat on your back, legs out. Sit-up and touch your toes, but as you do, reach up, don't lunge down your legs with your hands. The idea is that there's nobody there to hold your feet. Crossing your legs would make it more difficult, as you have less counter balance. Decline bench sit-ups are great, especially with weight. But NOT if you've been out of core work for a while.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
Just a quick heads up: DO NOT do crunches. It's not as bad as doing squats with improper form, but it's close. The minimal at best fitness benefits weighed against the potential damage makes it not worthy of your time or effort. If you guys are gonna put the work in, I wanna see you have some success. When it comes to the basic of abdominal workouts, functional sit-ups and planks/side planks are great. Those things are always great, just get more complex and are part of a longer list of exercises as you get more fit. Push-ups are terrific for your entire shoulder complex, and so are Pullups. That covers your chest, shoulders, biceps, triceps, lats, and multiple back muscles.

Can you explain what a functional sit up is?  When I do sit ups I use a work out bench on decline and maybe hold weights on my chest.  Is this bad for me?  Been awhile since I did these  :lol

A functional sit-up would be on the ground, lying flat on your back, legs out. Sit-up and touch your toes, but as you do, reach up, don't lunge down your legs with your hands. The idea is that there's nobody there to hold your feet. Crossing your legs would make it more difficult, as you have less counter balance. Decline bench sit-ups are great, especially with weight. But NOT if you've been out of core work for a while.

Cool thanks, yea I haven't worked out much at all lately so I wouldn't be adding weights to start, but that's what I would do in the past over time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on January 09, 2017, 07:18:37 PM
Does everyone have some strong goals for 2017? I just finished about 8 weeks of PT on my left hip complex, and I finally feel like I'm getting healthy for the first time in a while, instead of just finding a healthy patch between injuries. Enough so that I finally could justify getting a GPS watch for running. I've got 2 months until the GATE River Run 15k, so I'm gonna try and get there, but not gonna push too hard with what I'm coming out of. And I'm also happy to be getting back into core/leg work. I need to get back to my normal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on January 10, 2017, 06:52:49 AM
I definitely want to lose 20 lbs.  That was last year's goal and I was down about 15 and then I stopped.  Work and personal travel took a toll on me and I slowly put the weight back on.  So I am not going hardcore, but starting slowly to eat better and get back on my exercise bike after work.  I'd like to take the next 6 months and work on myself.  In the past I would go hardcore with the diet and workout and it would work, but I am just looking to slowly and progressively do it this time.  I don't have any personal plans the next 6 months to knock me off my habits and then by summer hopefully I am in better shape to hit up the beach or something.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2017, 07:47:48 AM
Does everyone have some strong goals for 2017?

Just to maintain my exercise routine. I began running back in 2007 and have made it a part of my life now. I probably average 20 miles a week (with some weeks having more than others) but at minimum I run 10 miles a week. I like to do at least one 'official' run a year which is typically a spring trail run at a local state park....called the Quiver River Quivering Quads. It's a Half Marathon through heavily forested hills, it's no joke as there is not one stretch of 'flat' running...you're either running up or down forested terrain. It's brutal yet very beautiful and rewarding. I have that run this March 5th.

I've found that the running I do has become less about 'exercise' and more about my mental health. It's just a nice escape from it all. I notice that if its been a day or two since my last run I start to get a bit cranky, it's really weird and then when I run it soothes it all.

But I have also noticed that 'time' and the 'violent' nature of running isn't being too kind to my ankles and knees. I turn 41 this month and the aches and pains seem to take a bit longer to subside and come back at a quicker clip than they used to. At the moment I'm (2) weeks away from finishing INSANITY (started at Thanksgiving to ward off holiday weight gain...have dropped 18lbs) and my right ankle is probably in the worst shape it's been in quite some time. It's just a steady constant 'throbbing' and it's not unbearable pain by any means but it's just constant. I had a very severe sprain in that ankle in high school when playing baseball...all the deep blue, black and purple colors were represented....and ever since periodically over my life my ankle would just 'hurt' from time to time. Seems to be more persistent these days. But hey...it could be way worse....
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on January 10, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
The parallels are kinda funny. I also started running in 2007, but I'm only 32 now. I'm currently at about 10-12 miles per week, but that's been mainly due to persistent injuries that were the result of other injuries. One of those injuries was a grade 3 ankle sprain about 5 years ago, which sounds like what you might have had, or at least grade 2. I'm trying to ramp up to 20ish per week, but I'm less serious about the miles. People ask me if I meditate. I say, "yeah, I run." I know all about the "itch".  Otherwise, I haven't found that the running itself has been the source of any breakdown of my body. If anything, running has a beneficial effect on certain aches and pains, gets the blood flowing to help flush out lactic acid build up. It always help to loosen up my back. But, like you, I've kinda resigned to the fact that my ankle is gonna give me problems.

Quick note on ankle injuries: The body has what is called proprioception. It's our bodies ability to know where we are. Like closing your eyes and touching the tip of your finger to your nose. But it's also where we get our balance. Signals are sent to the brain to tell the brain that the body is out of position, and your brain then sends signals to the appropriate muscles to change the body position. I just under went PT for a hip injury, but discussed my old ankle injury in depth, as it very well could have been a source for the hip injury. At the very least, the two injuries were NOT helping each other. Anyways, my ankle had been rolled so many times from baseball and skateboarding as a kid, and then the most traumatic being the grade 3, that my ankle had lost proper proprioception. When your ankle starts to roll, unless it's a violent event, the ankle will tell the brain that it's doesn't want to be in that position and the brain will send the signals to help stabilize your ankle. My ankle had been in that position so many times, it's now okay with it, so it doesn't send the proper signals, and is willing to roll right over. It's happened several times in the last couple years, which only makes it worse. On top of that, 2 of the tendons in my ankle have lost almost all elasticity, so that makes the ankle less stable as well. BUT, proprioception in your ankle can be gained through the right work. It's all about repetition within the proper mechanical range of motion.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2017, 10:13:38 AM
The parallels are kinda funny. I also started running in 2007, but I'm only 32 now. I'm currently at about 10-12 miles per week, but that's been mainly due to persistent injuries that were the result of other injuries. One of those injuries was a grade 3 ankle sprain about 5 years ago, which sounds like what you might have had, or at least grade 2. I'm trying to ramp up to 20ish per week, but I'm less serious about the miles. People ask me if I meditate. I say, "yeah, I run." I know all about the "itch".  Otherwise, I haven't found that the running itself has been the source of any breakdown of my body. If anything, running has a beneficial effect on certain aches and pains, gets the blood flowing to help flush out lactic acid build up. It always help to loosen up my back. But, like you, I've kinda resigned to the fact that my ankle is gonna give me problems.

Quick note on ankle injuries: The body has what is called proprioception. It's our bodies ability to know where we are. Like closing your eyes and touching the tip of your finger to your nose. But it's also where we get our balance. Signals are sent to the brain to tell the brain that the body is out of position, and your brain then sends signals to the appropriate muscles to change the body position. I just under went PT for a hip injury, but discussed my old ankle injury in depth, as it very well could have been a source for the hip injury. At the very least, the two injuries were NOT helping each other. Anyways, my ankle had been rolled so many times from baseball and skateboarding as a kid, and then the most traumatic being the grade 3, that my ankle had lost proper proprioception. When your ankle starts to roll, unless it's a violent event, the ankle will tell the brain that it's doesn't want to be in that position and the brain will send the signals to help stabilize your ankle. My ankle had been in that position so many times, it's now okay with it, so it doesn't send the proper signals, and is willing to roll right over. It's happened several times in the last couple years, which only makes it worse. On top of that, 2 of the tendons in my ankle have lost almost all elasticity, so that makes the ankle less stable as well. BUT, proprioception in your ankle can be gained through the right work. It's all about repetition within the proper mechanical range of motion.

that is funny how similar the situations are. And thanks to your info. on proprioception I'm now curios and thinking that the odd 'pop' and 'grind' that I get in my right hip periodically could be tied directly to the ankle injury....like you've mentioned?? It makes perfect sense but I've never looked into any serious physical therapy or anything like that for ANY of my aches and pains. Generally I just tough it out and that is that....probably due to how I was raised. Unless you had a compound fracture and were losing 4 quarts a blood per minute there was never any 'medical' treatment for any injury. All injuries were lathered in Mercurochrome followed closely with the instructions of 'now quit your whining'.  :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on January 10, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
Im flat footed and that has lead to my own ankle issues.  One of a few reasons why I don't run and why I ride a bike instead of even walking for exercise.  It's also lead to my knees being mostly shit.  I finally got these New Balance shoes that my pediatrist recommended and I haven't had any tendonitis at all since I started wearing them.
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Post by: sylvan on January 10, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
GMiller - Muscle compensations are a major source of injuries in active individuals. Running is a rather dynamic activity. On top of that, there are not a tremendous amount of muscle groups responsible for moving your forward. I did PT for my hip because I damaged some muscle in my left hip complex that at some point over the last year and a half cause other muscles to take over for certain tasks. I was continuing to run (not a lot of miles) and play golf (athletic approach, high swing speed, explosive power), and because my core was in such good shape, I did a good job at compensating for a long time. When I introduced new mechanics this summer to get longer off the tee, I was asking muscles, that were already doing something they weren't meant to do, to then learning something completely new. That's when the breakdown began and culminated in not just the straw that broke the camels back, but the pallet of bricks (but it worked, I was crazy long and in the fairway). One final round before a doctors visit was catastrophic. But, all along the way, I had continuous IT band issues, strained calves, sprained my ankle a couple times, had a serious hamstring injury, lost all strength in my left glute, and eventually was told by the PT 2 months ago that I had the hips of a 65 year old. It's called the KINETIC CHAIN. A break down in any link along the chain can alter the rest of the chain.

Cram - Find your local specialty running store. They can analyze your gait and help to find a suitable shoe. At the very least, a good foundation shoe that your pediatrist can further alter with an insert. There are a lot of shoe options out there because runners come from across the spectrum. Also, proper form can help to reduce running-related injuries, as well as foot pain that comes from overpronation/supination.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on January 10, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
Cram - Find your local specialty running store. They can analyze your gait and help to find a suitable shoe. At the very least, a good foundation shoe that your pediatrist can further alter with an insert. There are a lot of shoe options out there because runners come from across the spectrum. Also, proper form can help to reduce running-related injuries, as well as foot pain that comes from overpronation/supination.

That's exactly what my pediatrist did.  Told me to go to a specific running shoe store and they analyzed my feet and found the right shoe, no inserts necessary I was told and from the almost 2 years of wearing them, it seems legit.  I just purchased another pair of the exact same shoe .
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Post by: sylvan on January 10, 2017, 12:16:12 PM
That's good to hear. Shoes are something I tell my clients not to skimp on. It can be the difference between buying $60-70 running shoes from a discount shoe store and tossing them in the closet or garage because they make your feet/legs hurt and you give up on running all together, and buying legit running shoes at $90+ and enjoying the running to a point that you're sold on it and you haven't thrown away money on something you won't use. Consider them a tool. My brother tore his miniscus and has only run pain free in the $180 Adidas ultra boost. But that's the difference between him running and not running. The right tool for the job.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2017, 12:53:55 PM
I had continuous IT band issues

This made me cringe. Only because I had no idea what an IT band was until (2) weeks before my first Marathon when the IT Band in my left knee decided to let me know it existed. It's unreal how much that can hurt. In fact, I didn't run one bit after that until my marathon. I ran the first half with no issues....then stopped at Mile 14 to use the Johnny on the spot. When I came out the first step I took that landed on my left leg sent a jolt up and down the left side of my body that made me explode into immediate tears. It was a horrid feeling that hurt beyond what I had ever experienced with any aches or pains.

I spent the next 10 minutes jogging 30 yards in total pain and stopping....nearly convincing myself to quite. Then I began to say a few choice words to myself...challenged my manhood and just started running again. The adrenaline kicked in after a 1/4 mile or so and the pain went away............until three minutes after the race   :(
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 10, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
Hey sylvan, I appreciated your thoughtful advice on the shortcomings of crunches and am curious what I should do to eliminate my gut, love handles and what remains of my bitch tits. Actually, I'll sincerely appreciate any helpful advice from anyone but I just felt like singling out sylvan cuz he's a good dude.
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Post by: sylvan on January 10, 2017, 05:22:00 PM
I've had IT Band syndrome no less than 7 times, but those all worked themselves out. This time around has been different. When it was giving me issues, which I'm hopefully past with the right stretching/strengthening routine, it was excruciating. There would be one step that would feel "poppish" and then it felt like a hot knife sinking deeper into my knee with every step, until the pain was no longer bearable. It was fine to walk home, but the running was over!
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Post by: sylvan on January 10, 2017, 06:16:16 PM
Floyd - First and foremost, NUTRITION! After that, there's a lot of ways to burn calories. The best is running. It's second to nothing. But if running isn't your thing, any steady state cardio that raises your heart rate for a sustained period of time is good. Walking, hills, biking, swimming, Zumba, anything like that. When it comes to steady state cardio, you burn a significant amount of calories while you're active, and when your heart rate settles, so does he metabolic calorie burn. On the other hand, resistance/weight training puts the body in a state that it continues to burn calories long after the work is done. This is a great reason for someone who wants to burn fat to do resistance training. Additionally, as you begin to build muscle, your body will become more efficient at burning fat. This is why I like to combine resistance and cardio in workouts when I can for a full metabolic response, burning the most amount of calories during the activity, building muscle, and continuing to burn calories post workout. CrossFit workouts are a great example of full metabolic response workouts (as a sports performance trainer, I can't endorse CrossFit as it's the opposite of what I do, ME = Structure, CrossFit = Unstructured). Really, the basic idea is to take some resistance exercises, add a cardio section, and do a certain amount of rounds for time. It's amazing how a workout can change when you put a clock on it. PM me if you want and I can give you some more detailed advice.

IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER - You CANNOT spot-burn fat. Your body burns fat from where it chooses, regardless of what muscles you are using. This is where women can get frustrated, because they lose curves from good places and not from where they want to lose, and guys don't really have problems with it. Plus, It's important to be well rounded. Put the work in, eat right, and the midsection fat will burn away.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 10, 2017, 06:21:32 PM
PMing you now. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on January 11, 2017, 09:15:12 AM
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER - You CANNOT spot-burn fat. Your body burns fat from where it chooses, regardless of what muscles you are using. This is where women can get frustrated, because they lose curves from good places and not from where they want to lose, and guys don't really have problems with it. Plus, It's important to be well rounded. Put the work in, eat right, and the midsection fat will burn away.

I was curious about this as well.  Typically the belly is the hardest spot to loss the fat and I had been wondering if sit ups would help attack that spot or not. I guess not.
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Post by: millahh on January 12, 2017, 07:27:26 AM
Ok, I'm back on the wagon.  As a result of a fucking brutal year and a half of work, I have put on a fair bit of weight (combination of trouble getting time to exercise and eat right, stress eating, and lots and lots of cortisol from the stress).  I somehow managed to wind up at 29% body fat, despite that I do kickboxing ~3x/week, and elliptical a day or two a week.  Unhappy with how I look and how I feel.

So...my kickboxing gym is running a ten-week challenge, and I joined up.  Paying close attention to what I'm eating, avoiding needless carbs, getting the right proteins, and of course lots of kickboxing and some personal training.  I did some math, and my stretch goal is to get to 18% body fat by the end (which would mean 2 lbs/week, which is the maximum you can do and not lose muscle), with a baseline goal of 22%.  So, here we go!
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Post by: cramx3 on January 12, 2017, 08:02:54 AM
Good luck Millahh you got this
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Post by: sylvan on January 12, 2017, 09:05:24 AM
Unhappy with how I look and how I feel.

I was thinking about commenting on this area of fitness (Psychology), but wasn't sure how it would be viewed. I find that motivation is one of the keys to starting and keeping a fitness routine.  Let's see if I can string these words together into a comprehensible thought.

I'm currently 6'1" and about 175 lbs. When I'm injury-free and running (calorie/fat burn) and lifting weights (building muscle), I eat pretty much whatever I want and live at about ~180 lbs and less than 10% body fat. I've always been athletic, and tall and lean. But, my only exercise growing up was playing sports (baseball, and then all other sports), which got the job done as far as general fitness. Unfortunately, when I got too old to continue competitive baseball, I was left with no form of activity. By the time I was 20-21, I was 195 lbs. and it was a terrible composition, too much fat and really NO muscle. Just like Millahh, and a lot of other people, I WAS UNHAPPY WITH HOW I LOOKED AND FELT. I made the decision around the age of 23 to be more active. I started running... in skateboard shoes carrying a sony walkman! You do what you gotta do! I started to notice the fat burn away, and I started to get obsessed with running. This obsession and love of running led to a small obsession with lowering my body fat. I was training for half-marathons and doing 50-60 miles a week during the FL summer. I wasn't doing any other exercise besides running, and before I knew it, I went from 195 lbs to my lowest weight as an adult, 158 lbs at around 6% body fat. That's no good. I got tired of all the long miles and time spent on the road, so I changed up my running and started doing a more well-rounded fitness routine. Really basic stuff, and I didn't know much. Fast forward to 2012, and I decided to become a Certified Personal Trainer. I learned a lot that I never knew about fitness, but I also learned that the information is out there. Anyways, my fitness became very well rounded and I took my performance to new levels. So, I'm not a big guy, and I don't want to be big. I'm a lean athlete, and I train for what I need. That being said, and this is the real crux of my point, THERE IS NO SINGLE PHYSICAL TASK THAT I FIND INTIMIDATING. Sure, tell me to pick up something heavier than I can lift, or run further than I can run, and I'll have trouble with it. But the idea of busting my ass on something extremely physically demanding is not only not intimidating, but I welcome the challenge. This is a valuable thing: CONFIDENCE! Your life can change with confidence like this. You can see it in the way I walk. Whether it's walking down the street with swagger, or across the gym like I own the place, I carry myself like I know that I'm a machine. Because I am a machine. Here's a simple mantra for you: BE AWESOME! I'm awesome because I'm good at everything, and that comes from being well rounded. The really muscular dude that can't lift his arms over his head or run 400 m is not in good shape. He's one-dimensional and is lacking in almost all aspects of fitness. The novice marathon runner that can't do 20 pushups and has poor stability is just another one-dimensional active person. Being well rounded in fitness is as crucial a part of the CONFIDENCE as doing the work at all.

This isn't about boasting. This is something achievable by anyone and everyone. If you put some effort into learning some basics that will help you be healthier and more fit, you will have the confidence of knowing that what you're doing is right. If you put the work in, you can add the confidence that comes with losing weight, getting stronger, having more energy, and just being happier about multiple aspects of your life, and YOU too CAN BE A MACHINE. If people only knew what it was like to live this way, far more people would make life changes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: millahh on January 12, 2017, 11:32:24 AM
The psychology angle is quite important.  For me, it's about identity.  I view myself as a healthy, fit, and and least somewhat hardass person.  Seeing the wight and body fat were very jarring, and created a lot of cognitive dissonance.  That can resolve one of two ways...accept it, and my self-identity changes, or get pissed and do something about it.  I'm choosing the latter.

-I am someone who makes working out a priority
-I am someone who makes healthy choices
-I am a badass in the gym and at work, and they reinforce each other
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on January 12, 2017, 11:50:08 AM
The psychology angle is quite important.  For me, it's about identity.  I view myself as a healthy, fit, and and least somewhat hardass person.  Seeing the wight and body fat were very jarring, and created a lot of cognitive dissonance.  That can resolve one of two ways...accept it, and my self-identity changes, or get pissed and do something about it.  I'm choosing the latter.

-I am someone who makes working out a priority
-I am someone who makes healthy choices
-I am a badass in the gym and at work, and they reinforce each other

Fuckin' A! That's the perfect word to encapsulate all of that: BADASS. It's all a part of my identity. It's who I am. I couldn't imagine putting on ten pounds of fat, let alone the amount that a lot of people are willing to carry. Those of you who are overweight and looking to change that: JUST DO IT! The physical work is not that hard. Don't be intimidated by it, or other people you see doing difficult or strenuous workouts. Aspire to it, because it's achievable, to a certain degree, for everyone. The life choices that come with nutrition changes are more difficult for a lot of people. What do you want more? All of the BADASS that comes with being fit and healthy and able, or some fucking Coke and Cheese Puffs?

(Side note: Unless you've gone way past the obesity line, and crossed what I call the "red-line", you can get fit and healthy and still make unhealthy eating choices regularly if you're continually putting in the work. A regular-exerciser. Those people that have crossed the "red-line" are the ones that have to eat healthy and in moderation for 90% of the things they eat for the rest of their life. And that's with regular exercise. Now, that might sound intimidating for those people, but they're the ones that are in mortal danger and need the changes the most. They have no room to be intimidated. Whichever of those categories you fit in, the idea of making the important life changes should be an easy one. On one side, it's difficult at first, but will become natural in a short time, and you can still indulge almost at will. On the other side, do it or suffer from any number of major health risks, and potentially die an early death. Those are not tough decisions to make.)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 19, 2017, 08:32:08 AM
Just finished a 12 week weight loss challenge with (18) friends/family. I had gained a few pounds last summer due to the fact that I was eating out for lunch literally everyday, places like Jimmy Johns, Penn Station...Macalisters......you know, lunches that taste really good but are probably 1000-1200 calories a pop. Plus, I had begun to drink soda again which I hadn't done in years. Anyway, I hopped in the challenge intent on getting back down to my 'fighting' weight of 165 lbs.

My weigh in for the challenge was 190.2 lbs. Final weight this past Friday's weigh out was 162.4lbs....total weight loss percentage (which the contest is based off) of 14.62% Next closest competitor to below me was at 7.32%  The only issue preventing my blowout victory was that my youngest brother entered the competition a day before we began and did awesome. He started at 244lbs and final weigh in was 195.8! Dude lost 19.75%!! He wins $300 while I get the second place of $60. Thing is, I only told him about it because I wanted more people in it so I could take home more $$ when I won...if I won. Turns out, he had been to the Dr. that same week and his cholesterol was out of control bad and his blood pressure needed work as well so he took the competition very seriously and switched up some eating habits and exercise. Very happy for him.

I did another full cycle of the (60) Day INSANITY workout....plus and additional 22 days being that the cycle ended before the challenge was over so I just kept up with the workout plan. I'm here to tell you that (6) days a week of that friggin whooped this 41 year old man. That was the 4th time for me doing INSANITY and it may just be my last. Knees and ankles are pretty sore at the moment after that. I threw in additional running as well but man....I feel every bit of it.

As far as diet I would have a 200 Calorie meal replacement shake for breakfast....apple or bannana for lunch....then a 'normal' dinner, and I layed off of any of the easy carbs to eliminate like all breads and chips...plus stopped drinking soda altogether. Now that I'm at the weight I was at before last summers feast of lunches I'm going to focus on maintaining by keeping my lunches under control and making sure to stick to exercising/running at least (4) days a week. I was doing that pretty regularly before....but those lunches were out of control.

I've got the annual Trail Half Marathon I run every spring on March 5th this year and I'm looking forward to running it at this weight as opposed to when I ran the full marathon last October 28lbs heavier.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on February 19, 2017, 08:43:37 AM
Well done, Gary.  :tup :tup

As for me, I am now 4 lbs away from being under 200 lbs for the first time since late 2012 (I am 5'11" and have fluctuated between 205-215 for the last four years).  These last few lbs to get there is gonna be a bitch, I just know it :lol, but keeping my eye on the prize.  Lately has been a bit frustrating, though, because my back has been in knots off and on again the last few weeks, even when I go to the gym (I lift very light now).  About time for another visit to the PT so he can dig into me and get rid of them knots.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 19, 2017, 08:55:37 AM
Well done, Gary.  :tup :tup

As for me, I am now 4 lbs away from being under 200 lbs for the first time since late 2012 (I am 5'11" and have fluctuated between 205-215 for the last four years).  These last few lbs to get there is gonna be a bitch, I just know it :lol, but keeping my eye on the prize.  Lately has been a bit frustrating, though, because my back has been in knots off and on again the last few weeks, even when I go to the gym (I lift very light now).  About time for another visit to the PT so he can dig into me and get rid of them knots.

I know so many people they have back issues, my wife being one of them. I feel like it's just a matter of time until it's 'my turn'. Hope you can get the knots untied and go sub 200 soon!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2017, 12:24:31 PM
awesome job!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on February 20, 2017, 01:59:04 PM
Great job on the progress everyone!

For those of you that are getting older and worried about, or already starting to feel, back pain, start the transition now! You should be doing equal amounts strength, stability, and flexibility. The latter two are what usually get neglected at younger ages when you're exercising. And on the strength part, don't go heavy often, and don't go VERY heavy ever. Unless it's a necessity to build that type of strength, it's no longer wise to break the body down in that way. Focus more on core stability and flexibility. Get the core use to functioning in various proprioceptively challenging environments, and start a flexibility continuum that will be very beneficial as you get older.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: axeman90210 on February 20, 2017, 02:03:04 PM
First half marathon is in about a month (March 25th). Equal parts nervous and excited. Also need to start in on a race day playlist.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 20, 2017, 02:08:40 PM
First half marathon is in about a month (March 25th). Equal parts nervous and excited. Also need to start in on a race day playlist.

Cool! good Luck....it's very exciting knocking out the first one.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on February 20, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
I wish I could keep up the string of good progress, but my body hates me! I thought things were on the up and I would finally get healthy. Wrong!
-Ongoing hip injuries/tightness/compensations are building all summer to a devastating moment yet to come
-Hamstring strain at end of Aug. that kept me from running, and even walking prolonged distances, for ALL of Sept.
-Started easing back into running Oct.
-Decide to see doctor about hip
-Devastating round of golf took hip problem to 10
-MRI scheduled for shoulder, PT scheduled for hip
-8 mins in MRI causes the development of VERY REAL panic inducing claustrophobia based around feeling trapped
-PT seems to be going well, Running is going well
-PT went so well that I took over on my own, getting back into playing golf, running is going very well
-Mid-Jan bad hamstring strain again!, and my entire hip complex feels like it's regressed and all the PT has been undone
-I've been shut down since then, just starting to walk for exercise again, and my calf is bad after 3 days. Not sure if it's compensation or using a muscle after a long time off. I'm leaning towards muscle compensation, which means I'm gonna shut it down for another month.

It's really tough guys. It's not like any one thing is that emotionally devastating. But it's like a small piece of my optimism and hope is chipped away every day. And when it goes on month after month, almost two years since the real problem that started this cycle, you eventually are left asking yourself if it will ever be the same. Will I ever be healthy again? Will I ever be able to run injury free again? Will I ever be able to hit a golf ball 330 yards again? These are important things in my life. My reasons for living. I'm fucking dying without having these things in my life. I FUCKING WANT MY LIFE BACK!

edit: I just needed to vent. I'll get past this and be awesome again. I'm just not sure how I'll ever get an MRI, so I'm not sure how I'll pinpoint these injuries.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on February 20, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
First half marathon is in about a month (March 25th). Equal parts nervous and excited. Also need to start in on a race day playlist.

My suggestion for playlist is take your tempo/pace into consideration. 13 miles is a long distance, so don't go out too quick. If your music right out the gates is something high tempo, you might screw yourself. I would go with something easy/chill, or even hold off on the music for the first 5k. Save the tempo music for the end when you'll need a push.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Adami on February 20, 2017, 09:06:53 PM
Okay, I need your guys' expert opinions here.

I want to lose 20 pounds or so. Is there any way I can do that by sitting around eating pasta, pizza and cookies with no exercise?

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on February 20, 2017, 09:27:18 PM
Well done, Gary.  :tup :tup

As for me, I am now 4 lbs away from being under 200 lbs for the first time since late 2012 (I am 5'11" and have fluctuated between 205-215 for the last four years).  These last few lbs to get there is gonna be a bitch, I just know it :lol, but keeping my eye on the prize.  Lately has been a bit frustrating, though, because my back has been in knots off and on again the last few weeks, even when I go to the gym (I lift very light now).  About time for another visit to the PT so he can dig into me and get rid of them knots.

I know so many people they have back issues, my wife being one of them. I feel like it's just a matter of time until it's 'my turn'. Hope you can get the knots untied and go sub 200 soon!

Thanks! I'm getting there, slowly but surely.  The back stuff issues are a bitch because one you get them, they never really go away.

Great job on the progress everyone!

For those of you that are getting older and worried about, or already starting to feel, back pain, start the transition now! You should be doing equal amounts strength, stability, and flexibility. The latter two are what usually get neglected at younger ages when you're exercising. And on the strength part, don't go heavy often, and don't go VERY heavy ever. Unless it's a necessity to build that type of strength, it's no longer wise to break the body down in that way. Focus more on core stability and flexibility. Get the core use to functioning in various proprioceptively challenging environments, and start a flexibility continuum that will be very beneficial as you get older.

Very true, and I have actually been considering starting yoga, to increase flexibility and whatnot.  Lifting at all just bores me to tears now.

I wish I could keep up the string of good progress, but my body hates me! I thought things were on the up and I would finally get healthy. Wrong!
-Ongoing hip injuries/tightness/compensations are building all summer to a devastating moment yet to come
-Hamstring strain at end of Aug. that kept me from running, and even walking prolonged distances, for ALL of Sept.
-Started easing back into running Oct.
-Decide to see doctor about hip
-Devastating round of golf took hip problem to 10
-MRI scheduled for shoulder, PT scheduled for hip
-8 mins in MRI causes the development of VERY REAL panic inducing claustrophobia based around feeling trapped
-PT seems to be going well, Running is going well
-PT went so well that I took over on my own, getting back into playing golf, running is going very well
-Mid-Jan bad hamstring strain again!, and my entire hip complex feels like it's regressed and all the PT has been undone
-I've been shut down since then, just starting to walk for exercise again, and my calf is bad after 3 days. Not sure if it's compensation or using a muscle after a long time off. I'm leaning towards muscle compensation, which means I'm gonna shut it down for another month.

It's really tough guys. It's not like any one thing is that emotionally devastating. But it's like a small piece of my optimism and hope is chipped away every day. And when it goes on month after month, almost two years since the real problem that started this cycle, you eventually are left asking yourself if it will ever be the same. Will I ever be healthy again? Will I ever be able to run injury free again? Will I ever be able to hit a golf ball 330 yards again? These are important things in my life. My reasons for living. I'm fucking dying without having these things in my life. I FUCKING WANT MY LIFE BACK!

edit: I just needed to vent. I'll get past this and be awesome again. I'm just not sure how I'll ever get an MRI, so I'm not sure how I'll pinpoint these injuries.

I hear ya.  Multiple little things piling up is often worse than one big thing.

I might be getting an MRI soon on both of my hips, which are sore sometimes, ever since I went from working on my feet to sitting back down at a desk 2 1/2 years ago.  PT helps, but the progress is minimal.  There are days where they the ache to where if I had to run to save my life, I'd be dead.  And then other days, they are fine.  Throw that in with the never-ending back issues, the stomach issue I have had recently and the apnea (which appears to have gotten better all on its own for no reason), and my 40s have been a little rough thus far.  :lol :lol :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: axeman90210 on February 21, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
First half marathon is in about a month (March 25th). Equal parts nervous and excited. Also need to start in on a race day playlist.

My suggestion for playlist is take your tempo/pace into consideration. 13 miles is a long distance, so don't go out too quick. If your music right out the gates is something high tempo, you might screw yourself. I would go with something easy/chill, or even hold off on the music for the first 5k. Save the tempo music for the end when you'll need a push.

Yeah, I planned on one thrashy song to get me going at the start and then some more fast stuff  for the home stretch. In between will mostly be heavy but not particularly fast paced, but I definitely need tunes while I'm running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 21, 2017, 09:20:14 AM
First half marathon is in about a month (March 25th). Equal parts nervous and excited. Also need to start in on a race day playlist.

My suggestion for playlist is take your tempo/pace into consideration. 13 miles is a long distance, so don't go out too quick. If your music right out the gates is something high tempo, you might screw yourself. I would go with something easy/chill, or even hold off on the music for the first 5k. Save the tempo music for the end when you'll need a push.

Yeah, I planned on one thrashy song to get me going at the start and then some more fast stuff  for the home stretch. In between will mostly be heavy but not particularly fast paced, but I definitely need tunes while I'm running.

The song I use as the opener for all my races is 'In the Presence of Enemies'...just the first 'half' of that song. Starts of with a burst of power to get you going but also brings it back down to earth.....I highly recommend it as the 'opener'  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on February 21, 2017, 01:09:47 PM
Okay, I need your guys' expert opinions here.

I want to lose 20 pounds or so. Is there any way I can do that by sitting around eating pasta, pizza and cookies with no exercise?

well yes, but you're not going to need much pasta, pizza and cookies.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2017, 03:12:04 PM
Okay, I need your guys' expert opinions here.

I want to lose 20 pounds or so. Is there any way I can do that by sitting around eating pasta, pizza and cookies with no exercise?

yes.

Work out your maintenance calories (TDEE) than work out the amount of calories with these foods you want to eat but calculate and eat a few hundred calories under your maintenance. 

You can lose weight eating whatever you want done correctly, but you just won't be eating very much of then. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on February 21, 2017, 03:46:17 PM
Haven't worked out in two weeks and already I am weaker. I got my deadlift up to 260 x 5 a few weeks ago, but now I can only get about 2 reps at 260. Weird how that works. So back on the bandwagon.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Adami on February 21, 2017, 09:58:32 PM
Okay, I need your guys' expert opinions here.

I want to lose 20 pounds or so. Is there any way I can do that by sitting around eating pasta, pizza and cookies with no exercise?

yes.

Work out your maintenance calories (TDEE) than work out the amount of calories with these foods you want to eat but calculate and eat a few hundred calories under your maintenance. 

You can lose weight eating whatever you want done correctly, but you just won't be eating very much of then.

I think you misunderstand. I want to eat a whole lot of pasta and pizza and cake and do literally no exercise at all. And I want that to help me lose 20 pounds within a week or so.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 04:55:39 AM
Okay, I need your guys' expert opinions here.

I want to lose 20 pounds or so. Is there any way I can do that by sitting around eating pasta, pizza and cookies with no exercise?

yes.

Work out your maintenance calories (TDEE) than work out the amount of calories with these foods you want to eat but calculate and eat a few hundred calories under your maintenance. 

You can lose weight eating whatever you want done correctly, but you just won't be eating very much of then.

I think you misunderstand. I want to eat a whole lot of pasta and pizza and cake and do literally no exercise at all. And I want that to help me lose 20 pounds within a week or so.

Oh no, I got it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 11, 2017, 03:50:27 PM
I've got the annual Trail Half Marathon I run every spring on March 5th this year and I'm looking forward to running it at this weight as opposed to when I ran the full marathon last October 28lbs heavier.

Ran the race last Sunday and man what a difference it was being lighter. The course was in great condition as typically it's very muddy, or snow packed...maybe raining at the time....it's usually just one big muckfest of a 13 Mile Trail run. This year it was bone dry and mid 60's temperature wise. I missed my all time best trail run time by about 45 seconds, I finished in 2 hrs 19minutes (43 seconds). My best time on this course was in 2012 and it was 2:18:33. The 'medal' for finishing was pretty neat....just a hunk of Cedar with the race name and info. burned into it.

But, I was thrilled to even get that close to that time because like I said it's typically pretty wet/muddy which makes going for a good time tough. Anyway, my sister in law ran it this year for the first time and she did pretty good as well considering she had a skin/mole sample gouged out and taken from her leg two weeks prior...she didn't know if she'd be able to run due to the stitches but she healed pretty quick and powered through it. 

Hoofin' it to the finish....notice my wake knocked a guy over in the background   :lol

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My Sister in Law and I:

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The gmillerdrake clan:

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: axeman90210 on March 12, 2017, 07:56:37 AM
Congrats on the time :tup Sadly I think I'm going to have to miss my first half in a couple weeks because I overdid the miles and aggravated my IT band. Going to try for a short run next weekend to see if I've rested it enough, but it's not looking good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on March 12, 2017, 09:04:21 AM
Congrats on the time :tup Sadly I think I'm going to have to miss my first half in a couple weeks because I overdid the miles and aggravated my IT band. Going to try for a short run next weekend to see if I've rested it enough, but it's not looking good.
https://sequencewiz.org/2014/05/28/it-band-stretching-it-band-rolling-it-band-tightness/ (https://sequencewiz.org/2014/05/28/it-band-stretching-it-band-rolling-it-band-tightness/)

I've got major hip issues relating to Glute Med, ITB, TFL, and Psoas. I think I either have a Glute injury that led to disruption of the ITB, TFL, and Psoas, OR I injured my Glute awhile back, which caused my ITB to handle lateral stability, and with the Glute not working, the ITB became injured, and the entire kinetic chain broke down. The real issue comes in course of action. A Glute injury would require rest so it can heel. If the remaining injury is to the ITB, I would need to strengthen the Glute Med to help with lateral stability and take the stress off the ITB. I've been completely shut down for 8 weeks and most/all of he tightness is gone, but the acute pains are still there.

Congrats on the time G! Trails are the best.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on March 12, 2017, 10:53:46 AM
good job!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: twosuitsluke on March 15, 2017, 03:24:54 PM
Trying to get back into running a bit at the moment. I went out for a run with my mate Johnny, bearing I've not been for a run since probably last August I'm quite chuffed that I did about 4.5 miles without having to stop for a break/walk. Well I'm happy, carry on  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 15, 2017, 03:37:02 PM
Trying to get back into running a bit at the moment. I went out for a run with my mate Johnny, bearing I've not been for a run since probably last August I'm quite chuffed that I did about 4.5 miles without having to stop for a break/walk. Well I'm happy, carry on  :biggrin:

Thats a good jaunt considering the amount of time off.   :tup



I had an extremely odd and painful piercing pain in my right knee last night during an INSANITY workout. To the point of where i could not place any weight on that leg without it really hurting with a stabbing pain. Then, today it feels as if nothing ever happened? I'm gonna go for a run in a bit to see if it crops up again, but it was weird.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on March 17, 2017, 09:21:41 AM
Trying to get back into running a bit at the moment. I went out for a run with my mate Johnny, bearing I've not been for a run since probably last August I'm quite chuffed that I did about 4.5 miles without having to stop for a break/walk. Well I'm happy, carry on  :biggrin:

So how are you feeling after that run? I'm curious if you still think they was a good idea?

 Just had a successful MRI on my hip, so I'm excited to figure what the problem has been.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on March 20, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
Congrats gmiller! Inspiration
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: home on March 20, 2017, 02:13:18 PM
I started going to gym to work out twice a week since a few weeks ago. I'm surprised that it's actually pretty enjoyable to not use your brain at all and just use your muscles for an hour or so (while listening to some good music of course :azn:) I really hope I'm going stay motivated enough to keep up with this for this in the coming months.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 20, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
Congrats gmiller! Inspiration

 :tup   Thanks Sir!

I started going to gym to work out twice a week since a few weeks ago. I'm surprised that it's actually pretty enjoyable to not use your brain at all and just use your muscles for an hour or so (while listening to some good music of course :azn:) I really hope I'm going stay motivated enough to keep up with this for this in the coming months.


good luck. I notice it big time mentally when I haven't exercised in a few day. I consider my exercise these days less about the physical aspect and more for my mental well being. I just 'feel' better when routinely exercising all around.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on March 20, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
I'm 5 ft 8 ( around 173cm ) and around 170lb yet my BMI is apparently overweight...

Like Black Floyd said - i'm hoping it's increased muscle making up for reduced chubb :coolio
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 20, 2017, 06:28:26 PM
Yeah, those BMI charts are silly. I'm 5'-6", weigh 165lbs and am considered overweight. The 'suggested' weight for my height is 140lbs which is ridiculous. I'd be a stick figure.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Prog Snob on March 20, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
BMI is  useless.

https://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/bmi-inaccurate-mislabels-54-million-obese-or-overweight-people-unhealthy

https://www.medicaldaily.com/body-mass-index-bmi-calculator-healthy-weight-obesity-372852
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on March 21, 2017, 06:15:18 AM
I figured as much and didn't put too much thought into it.

Coz I'm clearly not overweight to look at me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: millahh on April 06, 2017, 06:12:28 AM
First time visiting this thread in a while.

So, I just completed the ten-week challenge at my kickboxing gym:
Weight -  210.4 to 198.6 (in gym clothes)
Body fat - 28.4% to 23.4%
Jumping jacks/minute - 78 with poor form and winded to 84 with perfect form without being winded
Sit-ups/min: 33 to 46
push-ups/min: 30 (poor form) to 46 (proper form)

For the most part, been going 5 days/week, but the big difference-maker on weight has been diet.  Eating a small breakfast, having 100 cal nuts as mid-morning and mid-afternoon snacks, making salads a default for lunch, and making unrefined carbs a deliberate decision rather than a default.  Also drinking somewhat less, and focusing on whisk(e) and wine instead of beer.

I'm about halfway to where I want to be, though that includes putting on more muscle as well as dropping more fat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: millahh on April 06, 2017, 06:14:18 AM
BMI is  useless.

https://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/bmi-inaccurate-mislabels-54-million-obese-or-overweight-people-unhealthy

https://www.medicaldaily.com/body-mass-index-bmi-calculator-healthy-weight-obesity-372852

Apparently Jennie Craig, Weight Watchers, etc. all had a voice in how the categories were set, so of course the overweight and obesity categories seem lower than would make sense.  Hell, I was obese until about three weeks ago, but certainly didn't look it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on April 06, 2017, 07:05:44 AM
I've got a couple random questions for you Millahh:
How tall are you?
Did your proper form push-ups include touching the ground with your chest and full extension? What some people consider push-ups really bother me sometimes, but I'm not attacking you, just curious and I want to make sure people are doing things properly :). Navy standards are not good enough for me :rollin.
Did your situps include any help? Someone holding your feet?

Congrats on the success! Keep it up!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on April 06, 2017, 07:13:39 AM
Well, I finally got my MRI results, and its an "Extreme Labral Tear" in my left hip. The doc is pescimistic that it could heal in any meaningful way that would allow me to return to my normal self. So, it looks like surgery is necessary. It would be a 6 month recovery, but a lot of that would be rehab. I would be on the bike immediately, but it would be a while before I can really burn some calories. I need to make a decision and pull the trigger, cuz this will more than likely KILL my 2017. But I've been in the dark in "indefinite​ wait" mode, which has been very tough mentally. Knowing what the problem is and what I need to do to fix it is a huge step, so now I can finally work towards being ME again, cuz I've been a shell of myself for the last 6 months.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: millahh on April 06, 2017, 07:45:46 AM
I've got a couple random questions for you Millahh:
How tall are you?
Did your proper form push-ups include touching the ground with your chest and full extension? What some people consider push-ups really bother me sometimes, but I'm not attacking you, just curious and I want to make sure people are doing things properly :). Navy standards are not good enough for me :rollin.
Did your situps include any help? Someone holding your feet?

Congrats on the success! Keep it up!

I'm ~5'8.5", with a broad frame (in an alternate universe, I have the frame of a short running back).

Pushup form, was full extension at top, and at least my shirt touching the floor at the bottom.  My major for issue has been that my elbows were going out at about a 45 degree angle from my body initially, and now my arm movement is perpendicular (which also requires my hands to be further spaced, and utilizes core and stabilizers properly).

Situps, my legs were hooked around the bag, but I wasn't using it to anchor my feet down.  May not be objectively perfect, but since this was about tracking change over the course of ten weeks, it's not unreasonable.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on April 06, 2017, 09:22:36 AM
Okay, good stuff! You're exactly right on the push-ups. I see so many people with their hands low to their body with a tremendous amount of angle in the arms, which incorporates more of the anterior delt, and makes it a less efficient movement. Also, at 5'9” (see, I can be generous), your WERE definitely obese at 210, which only means that your were more than 30 lbs overwieght. But, that's clearly in the past, so fuck me :biggrin:. And I'm sure you've put on muscle mass while you've lost those 12 lbs, which makes the work you've put in that much more impressive  :tup.

Here's your next Sit-up challenge, or for anyone that wants to take it on:
Functional Sit-up (flat on your back, legs extended, back of heels on the ground)
Acceptable Repetition includes scapula/shoulder blades touching the ground to shoulders crossing the hips, back to the ground. (don't curl or lunge down the body, keep your torso straight)
100 Sit-ups For Time (clock starts when your shoulders leave the ground and stops when your shoulders hit the ground at 100 count.
PR: 2:42 (1/1.62 sec)
Good Luck!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: millahh on April 06, 2017, 09:38:24 AM
Okay, good stuff! You're exactly right on the push-ups. I see so many people with their hands low to their body with a tremendous amount of angle in the arms, which incorporates more of the anterior delt, and makes it a less efficient movement. Also, at 5'9” (see, I can be generous), your WERE definitely obese at 210, which only means that your were more than 30 lbs overwieght. But, that's clearly in the past, so fuck me :biggrin:. And I'm sure you've put on muscle mass while you've lost those 12 lbs, which makes the work you've put in that much more impressive  :tup.


On the overweight/obese thing, this goes to what PS posted on BMI being a bunch of hot garbage (at least the way it is commonly applied)...in order for me to get to a point where I'm no longer "overweight" by BMI standards, I need to be in the neighborhood of 7% body fat, and that's assuming I hadn't even put on muscle mass.  Allowing for added muscle mass, that's more like 4-5% body fat.

In design of clinical studies, we do utilize BMI for inclusion/exclusion criteria (really, only to exclude extreme outliers in therms of physique/health), so it has some validity, but that's in a narrow context, not the broad health pronouncements that come from the calculations.  The calculation doesn't account for frame or gender (it approximates body surface area based on height), and so the generalizations made form it have limited applicability.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on April 06, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
I was gonna quote my previous thoughts on BMI, but I guess I never posted them because everyone else already hit the nail on the head :rollin. If I never hear that acronym for the rest of my life, I would be happy with that. Sorry if it sounded like I was being negative. Not referring to anyone in particular, but I have this personal opinion that if you want to get better at something, it's important to know what is deficient. Having an inauthentic view only helps to keep people misguided. I just see so many people on a regular basis that have the WRONG IDEA.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: millahh on April 06, 2017, 10:54:17 AM
I was gonna quote my previous thoughts on BMI, but I guess I never posted them because everyone else already hit the nail on the head :rollin. If I never hear that acronym for the rest of my life, I would be happy with that. Sorry if it sounded like I was being negative. Not referring to anyone in particular, but I have this personal opinion that if you want to get better at something, it's important to know what is deficient. Having an inauthentic view only helps to keep people misguided. I just see so many people on a regular basis that have the WRONG IDEA.

I get it and wasn't taking it personally, was more using it as an illustration.

I'm also a firm believer in having an accurate view of a situation, so that proper action can be taken...but BMI and weight are very limited measures, and can sound false alarms (and create unrealistic/inappropriate goals).  Wish we could just stick to % body fat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on April 06, 2017, 11:01:55 AM
Since my bike engine went kaput - i'll be walking around town a lot more - especially since it's getting warmer and sunnier.

That should help keep off the 15lb or so I shed since Christmas.

Plus work is gonna get busy in the summer so that'll keep me fit too. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on April 26, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
I had hip surgery on 4/14 (arthroscopy, femoraplasty, acetabuluplasty, repair of extreme labrum tear). I've been walking without crutches for days, and riding 40+ mins a day on my bike. I've got my PT assessment tomorrow and will start next week. Then 6 weeks of PT, which will bring me to 8 weeks after surgery, which is when I can get back to golf. And then after week 12 is when I can run. July​ 7 is already marked on my calendar and I'm counting down the days. I'm so fucking excited to get back to work! Nothing like coming back from a 6 month layoff by getting back into running in Florida in July :metal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2017, 06:56:17 PM
I had hip surgery on 4/14 (arthroscopy, femoraplasty, acetabuluplasty, repair of extreme labrum tear). I've been walking without crutches for days, and riding 40+ mins a day on my bike. I've got my PT assessment tomorrow and will start next week. Then 6 weeks of PT, which will bring me to 8 weeks after surgery, which is when I can get back to golf. And then after week 12 is when I can run. July​ 7 is a!Ready marked on my calendar and I'm counting down the days. I'm so fucking excited to get back to work! Nothing like coming back from a 6 month layoff by getting back into running in Florida in July :metal.

Good work mate.  Keep up the positive attitude and you'll get there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2017, 07:05:30 AM
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2017, 05:04:59 AM
So, after an 18 month hiatus, I'm back on the bandwagon.  Mostly been spinning on the exercise bike while watching hockey for the last month-ish.  I now also weaved in a deck-of-cards workout, and holy hell is my body feeling it

Hearts - pushups
Diamonds - situps
Spades - squats
Clubs - burpees

Mother-fucker am I out of shape.... but feeling good so far.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 10:19:52 AM
 :tup good work there.  Deck of cards is always a fun time!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on May 01, 2017, 11:04:15 AM
:tup good work there.  Deck of cards is always a fun time!

Every time I get a face card, I remember your story about 'death by pullups', and think "shit, I can't even do 13 burpees right now!"
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on May 03, 2017, 08:15:37 AM
I've made a point recently to start walking and stretching a lot more, and it is definitely helping.  Back soreness is a lot less severe (was a 4-5 for a while there, now about 1-3 most days).   Case in point:

I went to the Neal Morse Band concert back in January. I was still around 215 at the time, and despite sitting for most of that concert, the next day it felt like someone had taken a sledgehammer to my back. 

Fast forward to last night.  I am now at 198, and despite standing for most of the Devin Townsend concert (I sat for both openers, for the most part), my back feels mostly fine today (was a tad sore when I got home, but not too bad).

But yeah, this is the first time I've been under 200 since late 2012. I was in the 203-208 range for most of the time since, but had gotten up to 217 by the beginning of this year, so this year has been a slow and steady decrease.  19 lbs since 1-1.  I want to get down to 185-190 and stay in that range. I will make it. :hat
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 08:48:05 AM
That's fantastic progress going from 217 down to 198 since the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on May 03, 2017, 09:00:23 AM
Way to go Kev! Just goes​ to show lifting weights is only one part of fitness, and not always the most important part.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on May 03, 2017, 09:06:24 AM
Thanks, to both of ya!

I have started lifting light again lately, but the weight loss is mainly because of how I eat.  Losing weight is 90% diet and 10% exercise, I am convinced of it.  And I did not radically change my eating habits.  Just a few tweaks and here we are.  I still eat what I want most of the time (pizza once a week, baby!).  And honestly, that back soreness after the Neal concert was a blessing in disguise, because it showed me again that just a minimal amount of movement (I am still active at concerts, even when sitting down) caused pain, so losing weight and stretching to lessen the aching was a must.

Also, I bought a box of Thin Mints six weeks ago and told myself I am not allowed to eat them until I get to 195.  They are still sitting in the freezer unopened.  Three more lbs... :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 09:09:49 AM
Yeah diet plays a huge role compared to just exercise.

But you still need to treat/reward yourself to something every week or two and pizza is my go to food as well!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: KevShmev on May 03, 2017, 09:14:10 AM
I will never give up pizza. :hat

Pasta I have all but cut out, except for maybe once a month at my parent's.

What's funny is, reading back through this thread, I was already down to 204 in late February, so the first 13 went in like six weeks, and then it's been only six lbs in 2 1/2 month since.  But that's okay. I am doing this slowly and not driving myself crazy by depriving myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on May 03, 2017, 02:25:39 PM
I will never give up pizza. :hat


I'm having one now......:hat

Mainly cause I can't be arsed doing a big shop today. . .

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on May 03, 2017, 02:38:27 PM
FUCK OFF 403 LET ME POST FFS
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on May 03, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
I ate quite a bit of junk lately - several takeaways - Coca Cola -  and was worried about how much i'd put on - and it was only 2lb ! **

Then I realised that to get morbidly obese - around 800 lb - they must be constantly eating junk all day every day.

Yuk.




** - Ok I also do a lot of exercise.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 11:38:49 PM
I ate quite a bit of junk lately - several takeaways - Coca Cola -  and was worried about how much i'd put on - and it was only 2lb ! **

Then I realised that to get morbidly obese - around 800 lb - they must be constantly eating junk all day every day.

Yuk.




** - Ok I also do a lot of exercise.

That 2 lbs won't be fat, mostly water weight.  If the takeaways become a regular thing though, that's where the fat starts to form.

To get obese one needs to be eating at a caloric surplus constantly for a long period of time.  You can eat anything you want if you create the defeciet.

My heaviest was 118kg, and now I weigh 80kg.  My diet consists of mainly vegetables, lean proteins, oats, eggs, protein powders, peanut butter etc. but I've never given up stuff I want.  I also lost weight eating donuts, cakes, ice cream, pizza etc. my defeceit was just always in check over time. Although over time I prefer eating the healthier stuff these days.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jjrock88 on May 04, 2017, 12:16:42 AM
How long of a timeframe did you lose that weight Wolf?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2017, 12:34:39 AM
How long of a timeframe did you lose that weight Wolf?

I did it over probably a couple of years, probably longer, and easily kept it off.  I took it pretty slow and took my time.  At times I was doing it too fast and at times not fast enough I feel.  I've been trying to build strength in the gym at the same time which stabilises the process at times.  I have wanted to make sure I've cut fat, not just weight.  When I lost weight too fast, I was losing strength and probably burnt a bit of muscle.  It's really tough and I have learnt a lot of lessons about what I've done wrong and what I have done right.  Changing body composition is my ultimate goal.

Changing my diet totally to be able to eat those good foods day in day out while still being able to eat what I want at times has taken years.  To have successful fat loss over time, your diet needs to change and include the types of foods what I mentioned above I believe.  Yes, you can lose weight eating what you want if you are in a caloric deficeit, but long term success really requires a 180 in lifestyle.  It's a lifestyle change not just a phase.  That's why so many people can't keep it up and put weight back on, they look at it as a diet over a specific time, which 99% of time, doesn't work.

With my diet change, I rarely crave things anymore, and I can have what I want anyway.  I have the knowledge and tools to eat what I want and sometimes binge on 5000+ calories if I chose so and still maintain weight or even keep losing depending what I'm doing at the time.  It's all mathematics.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Kotowboy on May 04, 2017, 01:12:04 AM
I almost never have takeaways but was a really busy week at work and couldnt be bothered cooking.

Plus my Grandad took me out a couple of times too and I couldn't refuse :p

As I said - I went cold turkey on sugar in my tea/coffee and no biscuits/cakes etc...No soft drinks..only sparkling water on January 1st.

I lost like 16lb in two months.

But yeah I couldn't imagine being so sedentary and eating so much crap that I end up becoming obese.



... Also I don't care bout being "ripped brah". I just want a flat tum and to look thin.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2017, 06:47:40 PM
But yeah I couldn't imagine being so sedentary and eating so much crap that I end up becoming obese.

It's scary how easy it can get out of control without you even properly realising it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Accelerando on June 18, 2017, 05:38:25 PM
Does anyone here take BCAAs? And is it better on training days to drink during a workout or after?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on June 18, 2017, 09:00:57 PM
Does anyone here take BCAAs? And is it better on training days to drink during a workout or after?

I do... mostly to add a little sweetness to my drinks through the day.  And I always use them during my exercise instead of Gatorade or anything like that.

I'm 3 weeks into an Insanity cycle.  Not sure I'm gonna do the 2nd month, this has been a bit of a grind on my knees.  Too much jumping for this 45-year old.  Once I'm at the 1/2 point, I think I'll switch to p90x.  I've done enough of those to know I enjoy them, and am wanting to get into lifting again anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 18, 2017, 10:51:50 PM
I'll never do the full (60) day Insantiy again. Completed it for the third time this past February and like you said Chad....it's just too much for the knees and ankles. That second month is brutal.

I do like Insanity MAX though. The half hour workouts, I can still handle those. I'm doing a quick (4) week weight loss challenge with the in laws leading into our vacation next month. Gonna try to drop at least 10lbs....which I think is doable.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on June 19, 2017, 07:16:49 AM
Yeah, I certainly didn't do myself any favors with the first 2 weeks - working out on my deck without a mat, and using my 5-fingers running shoes (ie, no arch support).  My knees and feet were not happy with me.  Since switching to shoes and using a pad, it's been noticeably better.  Still not sure I'll keep it up into month 2 ... I really want to get back to lifting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 19, 2017, 08:24:44 AM
I really want to get back to lifting.

I've never gave a solid effort into lifting. I've tried on a few occasions to get into it but it never stuck. I'm pretty much just a runner. At 41  years old, I'd put my cardio conditioning and leg endurance up against most anyone....but as for any lifting abilities it's just not there. I still have issues with my left arm from the Rattlesnake bite 16 years ago that I've never really rehabbed or recovered from....I've just never built up any type of real arm strength. Any that I have is residual....left over from when I was lifting way back in my baseball playing days.

all i do know is that I consider myself in somewhat good shape and that second month of INSANITY flat out whipped me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on June 19, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
I hear ya.  The two times I did Insanity before, I never got through the second month.  It's just stupid.  Keeping ones heart rate above 155/160 for 20-30 minutes is just dumb (imo).  The fitness models can't even keep up in month 1, so why should my flabby / out-of-shape / 45 year old body put myself through that shit.  I don't even 'keep up' with the moves/timing in month 1, but I am certainly seeing improvement in my conditioning.  Good prep work for doing p90x methinks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 19, 2017, 09:56:10 AM
  Good prep work for doing p90x methinks.

I've only done P90X one time through and that was at least 5 years ago. I may look into doing that one again. Now that it's summer time I just find my exercise is generally running 4 or 5 times a week. I resort to indoor DVD's when needed but for me nothing beats a good 5 mile trail run
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on June 19, 2017, 10:12:37 AM
I've done p90x enough times that I don't watch the videos anymore.  I have an app on my phone that runs through the movements.  Gives me a good reason to watch the plethora of concert DVDs and BluRays that I haven't cracked open yet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on June 19, 2017, 10:19:33 AM
all i do know is that I consider myself in somewhat good shape

This seems like a good time to bring this up. I would like to preface this by saying this is not a personal attack against anyone or what they find important. I love running too, and if push comes to shove, I'd choose those 5 mile trail runs for the rest of my life if I HAD to choose.

The vast majority of people, even those that might workout regularly and consider themselves fit, would not truly be classified as FIT. There's a spectrum, or what I call the Health Arch: SICKNESS----------WELLNESS----------FITNESS. Unfortunately with American obesity rates, the majority of Americans fall on the SICKNESS end of the arch. BAD blood pressure, resting heart rate, cholesterol, body fat, etc. At the top of the arch you have WELLNESS, which includes ACCEPTABLE blood pressure, resting heart rate, cholesterol, and body fat. Some individuals who exercise occasionally, or even regularly, will fall into this category. True FITNESS includes ACCEPTABLE/EXCELLENT blood pressure, resting heart rate, cholesterol, and body fat, as well as competency in these ten areas of FITNESS: Accuracy, Agility, Balance, Cardio Respiratory Endurance, Coordination, Flexibility, Power, Speed, Strength, Stamina.

Being WELL is better than being SICK. But from experience, being truly FIT is what brings supreme confidence. Improving all those aspects through functional movement is what gives me the feeling that there is absolutely NO physical task or challenge that I find intimidating. Life becomes easy on that end of the Health Arch.

edit: Oh yeah, the point! Don't neglect anything. Do it all, your body will thank you for it. And that doesn't mean pick up the strength lifting or whatever from the crazy hard workout DVDs. It's cool if you've done them in the past, or if you've got goals to do them in the future. Bad starting point though. Age is ultimately irrelevant​ if you're doing the right things and progressing in a systematic fashion. I had an 84 yr old client that did as much or more work as any other client I had, and that included strength work.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on June 19, 2017, 10:50:06 AM
Does anyone here take BCAAs? And is it better on training days to drink during a workout or after?

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html (https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bcaas-the-many-benefits-of-amino-acids.html)

I found this article interesting because I'm a runner, but do A LOT of other work. I find it hard to put on muscle mass because of the calorie burn and the fact that I just don't have the appetite to eat enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 19, 2017, 11:44:00 AM
all i do know is that I consider myself in somewhat good shape

 being truly FIT is what brings supreme confidence.****snip**** gives me the feeling that there is absolutely NO physical task or challenge that I find intimidating. Life becomes easy on that end of the Health Arch.

I know you weren't attacking me personally but I feel the need to 'defend' my proclamation of being in good shape. Just had blood work done through my work

Total Cholesterol: 143 mg/dL    (below 200 are normal results)
HDL   68 mg/dL   (normal for men above 40.....above 60 Considered protective against heart disease
TC/HDL Ratio: 2.1   (should be below 4.5 for men)
Resting Heart rate of 36 bpm
BP 115/80
and although I don't put much stock in BMI...mine was 24 kg/m2    (should be below 25)


Again, I know you weren't attacking 'me' per say but when I said "I consider myself in somewhat good shape" I was basing that off of I average running 25 miles a week and my recent health check up results. I know I could still drop dead tomorrow from anything  :lol but Compared to 90% of the other 40 something year old Fathers I know...I'd say I'm pretty dead on when estimating my physical prowess. Because like you mentioned...even at 41 I haven't shy'd away from many physical tasks and seek them out regularly as far as races or events.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on June 19, 2017, 12:45:16 PM
Good numbers :tup. I just like to see people do everything. But trust me, I'm guilty of one dimensional thinking at times when it comes to my fitness. I can start running in like 3 weeks, and when I get going it's gonna be hard to do anything else. I see a lot of people put a lot of time and energy into "working out". If "they" spread out their focus and maximized their efforts, "they" would be far better off than just lifting heavy weights for hours a week, or only running for fitness. But I also get that certain things are more important to people than others. It's all good!

I'm sitting at the surgeons office right now. Hoping to get the okay to return to normal activity. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 19, 2017, 12:57:47 PM
for me the most important thing that isn't captured in those numbers is the mental wellness. I tell my neighbors and buddies all the time that running for me these days is less about the exercise and more about the mental 'break'. I find that if I go two or three days without running I start to get a little snippy and notice I'm more easily irritated. The 45 minutes to an hour I spend running those four or five times a week is very theraputic.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on June 19, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
It took me some time to snap out of that. I always run into that problem when some sort of injury comes up, which I've had plenty of the last couple years. But I haven't run since January 18, so I just hit 5 months. It took a few weeks to get my head straight. Now I'm just itching to get back at it, and I'm about 18 days away from hitting the streets... slowly  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: sylvan on June 30, 2017, 08:28:51 AM
Today is 11 weeks post-op and I've been cleared by my surgeon and PT to start returning to normal activity. I killed pt and my leg/core workouts are rounding into normal strength and stability workouts, soon to add some resistance and functional lifting. I've run on the treadmill twice in the last two weeks of PT, 7 and 5 mins, with the 5 mins being a RUN not a jog. I think I'll move out to the streets this weekend for some run/walk time. The upper body workouts are going just as good, about a month into hypertrophy phase. Less than two months ago just doing 5 push-ups was difficult, and thus VERY embarrassing lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: axeman90210 on June 30, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
Good to hear you're back to being able to work out :tup

Less than two months ago just doing 5 push-ups was difficult, and thus VERY embarrassing lol.

I know those feels. I'm finally back to running after essentially being shut down for four months (back to back knee injuries and then allergy/asthma season) outside of some long walks. It's amazing how much I've fallen off from where I was when I was training for a half marathon right before I hurt my knee for the first time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2017, 06:48:40 AM
Man, my fitnexx has improved a ton in just a month.  As I eased in to working out again, I was doing some of my 'deck-of-card' workouts.  One routine has pushups/squats/burpees/situps as the four routines.  I use an app on my phone for it, and it keeps a history.  Last time I was doing these (over 2 years ago), I was doing the routine in just around 30 minutes.  When I was doing them in May ... 45-50 minutes.   :omg:

After doing the first month of Insanity, I did the deck-of-cards routine, yesterday, and was right at 30 minutes.  #accompishment

Gonna do a mild cardio/recovery week, then start p90x routines for to get back into lifting.  I had success with those when I did them in the late '00s.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 02, 2017, 04:05:50 PM
Man, my fitnexx has improved a ton in just a month.  As I eased in to working out again, I was doing some of my 'deck-of-card' workouts.  One routine has pushups/squats/burpees/situps as the four routines

Deck of Card workouts are my favourite, and that one is a classic! They're fun, really effective, and can be intense as hell. Of course,  sometimes the cards giveth and sometimes the cards taketh away.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 06, 2017, 01:52:40 PM
(https://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/schectershredder/gym_zps6tppgcxz.jpg) (https://s1152.photobucket.com/user/schectershredder/media/gym_zps6tppgcxz.jpg.html)
The home gym I set up in March 2016. This was the real game changer for me. Even though there's a $10 per month gym about 5 blocks away, it was still tough to get motivated to go. Putting the gym in my basement made it so easy there was no excuse.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2017, 04:46:09 PM
I'm the same.  Have an upright bike, treadmill, 90lb adjustable Bowflex dumbells, bench, bands, push-up bars, pull-up bar.... everything I need to get (back) in shape.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Ħ on July 20, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
Insanity is awesome. I did it twice, and even though I could never complete a full workout without stopping, I got really in the best shape of my life. No problems, though it was psychological draining more than anything.

Well, I've been lifting for the past year and have gotten my lifts way up. (At least from where I was.) But earlier this summer, I sprained both my wrists pretty badly while mountain biking, so I just haven't lifted per doctor's orders. Instead, I switched to running again. I've been training for a 5k which is happening in about two weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 20, 2017, 05:13:09 PM
I will not do INSANIY again. At least not the full two months. Month one is no issue but by month two with the increase in workout time and more taxing workouts.....my knees, ankles and lower back are barking hard at me.

I do like the INSANITY MAX 30 workouts. Thirty minutes of him trying to get you to max out. I can make it the duration of Dan but they are certainly butt whoopers.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 27, 2017, 10:16:35 AM
Just registered for a Sprint Triathlon on Sept. 24th. 400 meter swim, 15.8 miles bike and 3.1 mile run. I've done one of these a few years back and liked it. I've really been contemplating doing an IRONMAN but a close buddy of mine who ran one last year told me how much training is involved and I honestly don't have 25-30 hrs a week to train for a full Ironman. I know I can 'wing' this sprint tri.....and I just might find myself registering for a half Ironman before it's all said and done.

Guess I need to get a road bike  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 27, 2017, 12:56:49 PM
Just registered for a Sprint Triathlon on Sept. 24th. 400 meter swim, 15.8 miles bike and 3.1 mile run. I've done one of these a few years back and liked it. I've really been contemplating doing an IRONMAN but a close buddy of mine who ran one last year told me how much training is involved and I honestly don't have 25-30 hrs a week to train for a full Ironman. I know I can 'wing' this sprint tri.....and I just might find myself registering for a half Ironman before it's all said and done.

Guess I need to get a road bike  :lol

I can say from personal experience that you can complete an Ironman with as few as 10-15hrs per week. It just won't be fun, that's for sure. Also,  i didn't do particularly well,  but did finish under the 17hr cutoff.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 27, 2017, 01:08:38 PM
Just registered for a Sprint Triathlon on Sept. 24th. 400 meter swim, 15.8 miles bike and 3.1 mile run. I've done one of these a few years back and liked it. I've really been contemplating doing an IRONMAN but a close buddy of mine who ran one last year told me how much training is involved and I honestly don't have 25-30 hrs a week to train for a full Ironman. I know I can 'wing' this sprint tri.....and I just might find myself registering for a half Ironman before it's all said and done.

Guess I need to get a road bike  :lol

I can say from personal experience that you can complete an Ironman with as few as 10-15hrs per week. It just won't be fun, that's for sure. Also,  i didn't do particularly well,  but did finish under the 17hr cutoff.

I was curious as to what other past participants would say. My buddy is pretty competitive and has a job where he literally can go in and out of work whenever he wants so he could afford to take the afternoon off and train. Where was yours that you ran, and when?

I'm 41 right now and know that although that's not 'old' per say....I don't want to be 45, 46 or so attempting an IRONMAN. If I'm going to do it I need to get in gear and do it. Issue is, I do not have a road bike but I plan to buy a very low budget one for this sprint tri and subsequent sprints or maybe even a half IRONMAN. Those things can get pretty pricey though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 27, 2017, 01:45:26 PM
Completed 2008 IM Canada in Penticton, BC (now in Whistler) while working as a restaurant manager about 50hrs per week. I was 26 at the time, and it took 16hrs to finish. Trained less than 15hrs per week. Tried again in 2012, but got sick in the water so i posted a DNF for the first time.  Sadly, i actually trained more in 2012 than 2008 but never got to test it out.  In 2012 i was working for a Canadian version of UniFirst (Uni1st?), the linen and uniform rental company. 40hr work week and about 20 training.

The 70.3 distance is much more enjoyable,  in my opinion. I completed 2 half-irons while training for the fulls, and i liked them way more.

Might be worth noting that although i didn't train a lot in volume,  i already had a really good endurance base from years of marathon running, so i definitely wasn't starting from scratch.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 27, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
  i already had a really good endurance base from years of marathon running, so i definitely wasn't starting from scratch.

I think that's where I'd have a good start as well being that I've been running for a solid 10 years at least three times a week...often times more....with a couple marathons and a good dozen or so half marathons under my belt. I'm an above average swimmer but I've never swam for distance so I know that's a whole new ballgame as far as muscle training and the only time I've biked for any distance was the one sprint tri I did a few years back that was 25 miles.

I have a hunch prior to years end I may be signed up for a full Ironman. I have some convincing to do with the wife because of the training involved.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 27, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
The swim was definitely the most daunting part for me. 2.4m is a long way to go in the water,  and i don't think i could even do it in salt water without throwing up. Getting in the bike volume is the tough part of training cause you need a good block of 4-5 hours just for a long ride itself, let alone if it's part of a brick workout.

Best of luck if you decide to take it on! It was definitely worth it crossing  the finish line after a year of dedicated training.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 13, 2017, 09:04:40 AM
Well, this is super frustrating.  Suffered some kind of knee or quad injury 2 weeks ago. I've been rehabbibg it, so I've been unable to mountain bike (which is actually depressing) or do any decent lower body work or cardio. Now I'm battling tendinitis in both elbows, so i can't do any upper body work either. This might actually drive me insane.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on August 13, 2017, 10:10:24 PM
Now I'm battling tendinitis in both elbows

inside or outside of the elbows?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2017, 05:50:24 AM
Getting old sucks.  The body just doesn't recover from minor aches and pains.  At the moment:

Left elbow - minor pain there (outside) since February.
Both knees - they're ok, so long as I wear my knee braces when I do anything leg related.  If I don't, it feels like I'm gonna lose a ligament somewhere.
Right shoulder - not sure what's going on here, but range of motion is pretty bad, and sharp pains when I hit certain angles while lifting.
Left shoulder - I'm 99% sure I separated it 12-ish years ago, and the range of motion never returned.  When I lay on my back and hold my arms 'up' at 90', my elbow is a good 3-4 inches off the ground.
Left thumb - feels like a deep bruise in my knuckle.  Been there a good 2 weeks.

But the kicker at the moment is my right lat.  Not sure what I did, but it's been in borderline agony for the past week, and taken me out of my schedule.  Just doing light cardio at the moment until it starts to recover.

Le sigh.  And I was feeling real good, making good progress on my reps and weights.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 14, 2017, 06:27:51 AM
Now I'm battling tendinitis in both elbows

inside or outside of the elbows?

Inside the right, and more like my forearm on the left. I think it's an overuse injury from working on my grip strength for mountain biking. I picked up some FatGripz a couple months ago,  so my arms probably aren't used to it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2017, 07:34:08 AM
Now I'm battling tendinitis in both elbows

inside or outside of the elbows?

Inside the right, and more like my forearm on the left. I think it's an overuse injury from working on my grip strength for mountain biking. I picked up some FatGripz a couple months ago,  so my arms probably aren't used to it.

I totally read "FatGripz" as "FapGripz" - which would definitely explain the "overuse".   :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 14, 2017, 08:59:22 AM
Now I'm battling tendinitis in both elbows

inside or outside of the elbows?

Inside the right, and more like my forearm on the left. I think it's an overuse injury from working on my grip strength for mountain biking. I picked up some FatGripz a couple months ago,  so my arms probably aren't used to it.

I totally read "FatGripz" as "FapGripz" - which would definitely explain the "overuse".   :lol :lol

Yeah....don't think I'd be discussing it here if that were the case lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 14, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
Left shoulder - I'm 99% sure I separated it 12-ish years ago, and the range of motion never returned.  When I lay on my back and hold my arms 'up' at 90', my elbow is a good 3-4 inches off the ground.

My left shoulder has increasingly become an issue. And I know the problem. I'm of the firm belief I am now suffering the after effects of being bit by a Western Diamondback Rattlesnake. I mean, that venom is a hemotoxin and works as pre-digestion for the snake.....and my entire left arm was affected. I'd say I lost 30% of the muscle tissue in it from the bite along with who knows what type of ligamet/structural damage.

It was never really an issue too much before because I was younger and just powered through it....but here over the past few years I can totally tell there are some issues going on. The arm tires easily, makes some pretty strange cracking/popping/grinding noises....shooting pains are on the increase and more frequent. I don't know what the medical term would be to describe what has been going on other than it's just F'd up.

I've thought about going to the Doctor and finding out what the issue is but I think I'll do the typical guy thing and ignore it for a few more years until it's unbearable.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2017, 11:11:06 AM
makes some pretty strange cracking/popping/grinding noises....shooting pains are on the increase and more frequent. I

... don't even get me started on the crunches and rolls I've got going on all around both shoulders.  It's like a bag of Orville Redenbacher in the microwave
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Big Hath on August 14, 2017, 11:46:56 PM
Now I'm battling tendinitis in both elbows

inside or outside of the elbows?

Inside the right, and more like my forearm on the left. I think it's an overuse injury from working on my grip strength for mountain biking. I picked up some FatGripz a couple months ago,  so my arms probably aren't used to it.

yeah, I've been dealing with that for a few years now.  About the only thing that has made a real difference is something called voodoo floss.  Look it up and let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 19, 2018, 09:04:15 PM
I'm bumping this thread to state that after a few years of ums and uhhhhs and other incoherent words of doubt and hesitation, I decided to bite the bullet and finally bought DDP Yoga.  It's basically this yoga program that's designed by former professional wrestler, Diamond Dallas Page (DDP), and a fair amount of wrestlers and relative celebrities endorses this product and they stated that doing the workouts helps keep them in good shape as long as you put the effort and motivation and the reasonable amount of time (30 minutes a day for three days a week I believe they stated to do the workouts) to it.  I'm not using this program as a way to lose some excess weight (although I hear losing weight doing the workouts can be a side effect), but rather as a way to regain some flexibility in my legs and get healthier and not be a lazy dude that sits on a chair at the computer for hours like I am doing now.

Hopefully, this is the first step in a long journey to get in much better shape physically and mentally.  I'm not a huge dude, but I do feel sluggish at times, and I'm hoping that doing DDP Yoga is the first step to get into better shape and adapt a healthier diet, etc.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 20, 2018, 06:27:21 AM
Sounds like a great first step  :tup   Really work at creating the habit of doing those DVD’s......that’s the key. Establishing that habit. ‘What’ type of exercise/activity you fill that 30 minutes with IMO is less important than the fact of actually doing some type of workout/activity.

Sure the workouts are still important but making a habit of doing them is the tough part. You get a few weeks in to consistently doing those DVDs and it’s a guarantee your gonna feel (and look) better.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on April 24, 2018, 07:05:52 PM
Just got back from the gym after having destroyed my shoulders (in a good way).  Also taking a new philosophy, really focusing on form (ie, mind-body connection), working the eccentric motion as much as (or more than) the concentric, as well as not using my wrist-straps, so my forearms took a pounding too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 24, 2018, 07:48:20 PM
Just got back from the gym after having destroyed my shoulders (in a good way).  Also taking a new philosophy, really focusing on form (ie, mind-body connection), working the eccentric motion as much as (or more than) the concentric, as well as not using my wrist-straps, so my forearms took a pounding too.

Sounds hot
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 26, 2018, 07:24:21 PM
 This week I decided to start riding my bike to work. I switched jobs earlier this month, but still in the downtown core, and the new (almost literally new since it was built in 2013) building I'm in has a high security bike lockup area in the secured underground parking garage, a maintenance area with tools and air, and a full locker room with showers, hair dryer, after shave... you name it. I basically have no excuse not to ride in the non- winter months.

I would normally take the bus since a parking stall anywhere near my tower is easily $250+ per month. My bike actually gets me to work in half the time, despite having an express bus that goes from the end of my block directly downtown with minimum meandering along the way.  My one way commute is 21 min vs. 40 on the bus.

I'm only 4 days in, but I'm really enjoying it!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: H2 on July 14, 2019, 10:03:39 PM
RESURRECTION  :omg:

Has anyone tried keto? Defined at less than 20g carbs per day, it's kinda the new fad diet but I've heard great things. I've kept on it for a month and can't say it's been long enough to say it's a "success", but I can attest to feeling leaner, lighter, and less miserable. More stable energy levels. You also carry far less water weight. I get bloated/inflammation a lot so this has been helpful for me. Also, tons of bacon, eggs, sausage, cheese, cream, meat, and veggies is awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2019, 05:16:58 AM
I absolutely detest fads.  It may be cliche, but a well balanced NUTRITION PLAN is a better approach to long term success.  Do you plan on eating the Keto way for the rest of your life?  Likely not.  To each their own though, and if it's working for you now, great.  Hopefully

Speaking of being back on the bandwagon, I'm about 6-weeks back on it now that the house-move situation has stabilized.  Did some body-weight and HIIT activity for the month of June, then started the Athlean-X program (again ... I got 7 weeks in to it last year before life got far too busy). 

Feels good.  I've got a little over 2 years to hit my goal of being in the best shape of my life when I hit 50.  I probably need to tighten up the definition of that goal, as I pretty much am in the best shape.  I somehow lost about 9lbs from Jan-Apr just through constant motion and an unplanned calorie restriction (I was just too damned busy to eat much).  Though, I have gained about 5 of them back since April.

183lbs as of yesterday, but 21%(ish) BF.  I have an electronic scale that supposedly measures BF - so I know it's not totally accurate, but it does give a frame of reference as I check-in weekly.  I just gotta get strict with my nutrition... that's where I'm lacking at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 15, 2019, 05:55:17 AM
I agree completely with jingle. Any diet plan that restricts or removes entire food groups is unsustainable.  Keto, specifically,  is horrible if you do endurance activities since carbs are essential for performance beyond short efforts. Nutrition isn't rocket science.  Eat less calories than you burn. It's that simple, and it works everytime.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 15, 2019, 11:41:24 AM
Maybe I put it in the lonely heart thread, but after being dumped two months ago I started working out and trying to better myself.  Started using my exercise bike in my basement and slowly adding dumb bell work outs and biking further.  I never weighed myself and figure it's just a number, I want to just keep at it until I feel better about myself.  I've got a lot of work to do, but I know I've made a nice dent in these two months.  Today I am officially down my third belt buckle and the last one before I need a new belt and probably new pants.  My shirts are all getting really big on me too and I've been fitting into stuff I haven't been able to in years.  I biked 11 miles Saturday, which is the furthest I've done.  My friend saw me for the first time in a month and noticed immediately.  Definitely feel better about my body, but it's a long battle that just started to get in the best shape possible.

As for Keto and dieting, I'm not big into the fad diets either.  This one would be tough without grains because one of my power foods for weight loss is oatmeal.  I've been eating oatmeal lunches at work lately.  I actually like it, so it's not that difficult although I just have to ration it and kind of starve myself a bit because at the end of the day it is all about the calories.  I haven't been strictly counting them, especially since my dinners are home cooked light meat and veggies type of meals that it's hard to count the calories, but I can guess I'm keeping it under 1000 a day for sure.  The oatmeal is 300 calories a day (I make two bowls, one for lunch and one for later lunch).  Two cups of coffee during the day black as well which helps curb the hunger.  I've been looser on the weekends mostly because I've cut out drinking during the week, but not on the weekends. 

Having said all that, when Chad and I are bunking together in September I am hopefully in the best shape I've been in in a looong time and sounds like Chad will be as well  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2019, 12:45:09 PM
Dude... that's awesome!  Pretty soon you'll need to be Cramx1... or maybe even cramL.   :lol

I would suggest you track your calories (there's enough online counters and apps out there) for at least a week.  I'd bet my next  paycheque your shortchanging yourself, and would shart myself if you really are under 1000 cals/day.  You'd be starving all the time.  I've barely eaten anything today (SMALL bowl of cereal with almond milk; a sandwhich with extra lean ham and some chicken) and I'm already at 870 cals.  <1000 is dangerously low for anyone - and frankly there is no need to be that much of a deficit.  Do your homework, and calculate your BMR; calculate your goals, and do the math.  My boy Alan Roberts (Every Damn Day Fitness... you'd love his vids) has a book called "Math and Willpower".  Very good read.  Only took a couple of hours.

Then do a workout with me in Atlanta... we'll see how good of shape you're in.   ;) :D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Grappler on July 15, 2019, 01:02:02 PM
I agree with the above - you could probably build some calories back in.  6 years ago, I lost 30lbs by using Weight Watchers.  I was really strict and never used up any of my extra points or ate extra food and the pounds came off fast.  I was seeing results, so I stuck with it, but I could have done it a little slower and been much happier with extra food.

I'm still strict with what I eat when I'm at work, which allows me to pig out a bit on the weekends.  Once you hit your goal, slowly build in some calories until you figure out what you need to just maintain the weight.  I've kept most of it off for the last 6 years, gaining 10 back after my second kid was born, and then just using the portion control and decision making that I learned in weight watchers to lose that 10 again and get back to where I like to maintain.

Congrats though!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: The Walrus on July 15, 2019, 01:02:46 PM
That's freaking awesome, cram. Proud of you!

I've been putting in the work at the gym, but I can't afford to really eat as healthy as I'd like so I have to make compromises (sugar is my biggest enemy; occasionally I just HAVE to have a really sugar-heavy energy drink). My bottom line for the last few years has been to work hard enough in the gym to be able to still drink beer regularly and not become fat, so as far as that goes I'm doing pretty freaking good. I just keep up the cardio a lot. Also my preferred method of working out currently is one heavy day, and the rest are really light but with extra hard focus on the pump. Really jonesing for a good pump in the gym these days, I like leaving feeling utterly exhausted.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 15, 2019, 01:08:01 PM
I won't be in your shape thats for sure Chad, but this 1k calorie a day thing is kind of a weight loss fad in and of itself.  It's not healthy for long term, but it's working for now and I'll have to change it up once I lose a bit more weight.  I'm also not as strict on the weekends so I'm probably close to 1.5k on the weekends (with a more intense work out since I have more time too) I'm not at all that nerdy about this to start doing math.  Like I said about not weighing myself, it's just a number.  It's not important to me, the only thing that matters is how I feel.  I have been feeling really great lately, felt so damn good at the concert this past Saturday since I biked 11 miles beforehand. 

And yea, my goal was to do this more intense diet to shed the easy pounds and get myself back into any sort of condition.  Like just riding my bike for 10 minutes was exhausting when I started, so just taking the baby steps to build my body back up.  Even with this strict diet though I can tell I've added some muscle mass in my arms (from the light dumbbell workouts I mix in) so it seems the low calerie intake hasn't hurt my muscles or anything.

Also been drinking insanes amount of water.  I get hungry for sure, but I don't feel like I am starving myself.  Like it was rough the first week but my body has adjusted and stomach shrank so as long as I don't eat a huge meal to expand it again, I don't feel so hungry non stop, just a bit in the morning before lunch and before going to bed, which sucks because that's the hardest to avoid eating since it's hard for me to fall asleep on an empty stomach.  I must say though, my sleep has improved since I've lost weight too.

Also should add that the oatmeal lunch diet is good on my wallet too, another huge positive for this.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Lonk on July 15, 2019, 01:10:21 PM
Dude... that's awesome!  Pretty soon you'll need to be Cramx1... or maybe even cramL.   :lol

 :lol Good one

I had an accident 2 years ago that messed up my knee and I put up 45 pounds, I went from 190 to 235. Last fall I started working on losing those extra pounds and in 2 months I lost 20, but because of work and life I haven't had much time to continue working on that. I am currently at 220 and I want to get back down to 190-195. At least I'm 6'2 so 220 is not that noticeable on me  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 15, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
Download the MyFitnessPal app. It's probably the easiest to use calorie counter, and it syncs will a whole slew of other fitness apps if you're an exercise nerd like me. And you can add your own recipes to it, too. I home cook 99% of my meals, so I just add my recipes once and then make sure to cook them consistently each time. As an added bonus, I can go back and reference the recipe if I forget how much of an ingredient I used. And since I bag a lunch for work, I can pre-log most of my day's food in the morning at breakfast.

I dropped 50lbs in the year leading up to my son's birth by simply counting my calories and consistently exercising 4-6 times each week. It probably helps that I like exercise, though. And as for diet, I can literally eat whatever I want if it fits my calories (~2,000 per day unadjusted...meaning before I burn extra calories from exercise. Actual avg. calories consumed each day is closer to 2500 with how often I work out). Hell, I had pizza delivered last night cause I did an endurance bike ride yesterday afternoon. Still came under my calorie goal on the day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: The Walrus on July 15, 2019, 01:11:48 PM
Peanut butter sandwiches and tuna have helped get me through like the last 3 weeks. Cheap and easy and healthy!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: Grappler on July 15, 2019, 01:12:12 PM
it's hard for me to fall asleep on an empty stomach. 

Have a string cheese!  I get the same way - I'll be hungry before bed and one tiny little snack tends to help.  Otherwise, my go-to evening snack is a bowl of cheerios. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 15, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
My newest fitness tool:

(https://i.imgur.com/0XK9QU2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 15, 2019, 01:16:24 PM
it's hard for me to fall asleep on an empty stomach. 

Have a string cheese!  I get the same way - I'll be hungry before bed and one tiny little snack tends to help.  Otherwise, my go-to evening snack is a bowl of cheerios.

I have string cheese at home, one of my go to snacks.  Actually if it's bad enough, I have these fiber one 90 calorie little bars that I like a lot and the fiber helps you feel more full.  I do feel a lot of this is mental though too, like I keep telling myself after I eat my dinner "you will not get hungry before bed" on repeat  :lol and sometimes it works.  I already eat my dinners super late too, usually not until 8-9pm, which isn't good but I don't get home until 7pm on most days and then workout and usually not ready to eat right after.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: H2 on July 15, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
I absolutely detest fads.  It may be cliche, but a well balanced NUTRITION PLAN is a better approach to long term success.  Do you plan on eating the Keto way for the rest of your life?  Likely not.  To each their own though, and if it's working for you now, great.  Hopefully
Thanks. I'm just using Keto for cutting, I think. Might switch to something moderate after hitting my cutting goal. It is a nutrition plan, in fact, with determinate macros (5% carbs/ 70% fat/ 25% protein). I welcome the plethora of veggies and a hard limit on sugar. Also, studies apparently show higher retention rates with low-carb diets like keto than other kinds of diet. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOJxfh0b3o8) is pretty informative and cites these studies. The main downside is lower workout intensity but I don't think you absolutely need carbs so long as you get the micronutrients you need. Of course, keto is just one of many roads to success.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 15, 2019, 03:45:56 PM
It is a nutrition plan, in fact, with determinate macros (5% carbs/ 70% fat/ 25% protein).

I can tell you that virtually no body builder uses a macro mix like that during their cutting phase. They use 50-60/15-20/30-35, with tremendous results.  I realize people can have success using Keto, but it's by no means good for you or sustainable. And 5% carbs is so low it'll probably impair cognitive function, too. The hard sugar limit is probably a good thing, so long as it allows for some fruit sugar, but 5% carbs is insane.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 15, 2019, 03:56:21 PM
I've felt myself getting a bit 'lazy' the past month or two.....only running two, maybe three days a week...(3-5 miles a time) which is down from my 4-5 days a week I'd been on for the past 7-8 years. Part of it was I was taking a bit of a break. Dealt with a leg/hamstring issue over the past winter from playing hockey....had a pretty severe case of tennis elbow....was just feeling run down, so I stepped it back a bit to 'heal' a bit.

BUT....I don't like how 'comfortable' I'm getting just ho humming along at one or two days a week running. So...I went ahead and registered for another Half Marathon Trail Run on Sept. 7th. I've run enough halves to know that I don't need much more training to be able to handle the distance per say....but I do need the 'challenge' out there to get me running 4-5 days a week again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2019, 04:49:25 PM
There are dozens of <100 cal snacks available ... almonds, hard-boiled egg, yogurt (get Greek... higher protein), turkey pepperette's, turkey kolbasa... those are my go-to's.  I try to stay away from those processed bars.  Fibre 1 bars are nice and all, but 9 grams of sugar.  No thanks.  I do keep Pure Protein on hand if/when I need something in a pinch.  2-3 grams of sugar for those.

Damn... this is supposed to be the exercise thread, not nutrition!   :lol

@H.  All good man.  I'm a firm believer of 'if it's working for you, have at it', no matter what "it" is.  I just remember watching Jeff Cavaliere talking about it (both good and bad... just offering his view points) about it - and saying pretty much what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 15, 2019, 05:14:51 PM
I need a high fiber diet for the anus, hence fiber one bars and oatmeal being part of my diet.  Yea, processed shit isn't good for you, but it's cheap and is currently working.  I did have a huge container of almonds at my desk but I finished it last month and haven't replenished.  And eating fresh fruit has never been my thing (for one, I really dislike most fruit (strawberries and cantaloupes maybe what I like the most) , second it's a pain to constantly try and keep fresh fruit around the house for a single dude).

Last time I did the weight loss thing, I ate a lot of greek yogurt.  I should get more for snacking.  I'd use it in a protein shake too, but I don't want to buy protein powder this time around.  It's expensive and I'd rather eat lean meats for my protein right now.  Maybe after I get the weight down and I want to start getting more muscle and adjust my diet for more calories I'll do that again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: The Walrus on July 15, 2019, 05:19:46 PM
Whole wheat bread, beans, nuts, brown rice - also great sources of fiber. Veggies too of course. I  :heart fiber.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bosk1 on July 15, 2019, 05:27:06 PM
Speaking of being back on the bandwagon, I'm about 6-weeks back on it...

Feels good.  I've got a little over 2 years to hit my goal of being in the best shape of my life when I hit 50.  ...

183lbs as of yesterday

Nice job! 

I'm doing okay as well, with a similar goal, although mine is basically "as close as reasonably possible to best shape since getting out of the USMC."  I'm not too far off.  I definitely cannot do a lot of what I could do then.  But I am doing things now that I didn't do then either, like regularly taking my bike out for 25-50 miles, backpacking, etc.  Weight-wise, I'm still about 10 lb. behind you.  I'd like to hover between 180 and 185.  But to really fully meet my health goals, I probably need to drop a bit more than that, and then build a bit more lean muscle to get back up to that weight range.  Anyhow, progress...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: bosk1 on July 15, 2019, 05:28:43 PM
I did have a huge container of almonds at my desk but I finished it last month and haven't replenished. 

Almonds are great.  A great way to save money is to buy the huge bag of raw almonds at Costco and roast them in the oven yourself.  It's super easy and cuts the cost by about 75%.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2019, 06:36:46 PM
Hopefully no one minds this thread including nutrition as part of the discussion!  Oh snap!  I just noticed this is my thread. Guess I'm changing the title!   :lol

Is Bulk Barn a thing in the US?  That's another inexpensive way to get nuts and such.  Just stay away from the chip/chocolate aisle.

@Cram... your water intake is exceptional - great for satiation, and great to keep your metabolism burning.  Also good on ya for not drinking your calories. If you're not doing any significant weight training, there is absolutely no need for protein powder to supplement your macros.

Two epiphanies I had during my weight loss and fitness journey's. First, it takes your brain 20 minutes to get the signal from your body that you are full.  So, I cut my portion size by a third, and NEVER ate until I was full.  If I was still hungry 20-30 mins after eating, I'd grab a small snack.  95% of the time, I never needed that snack.

Second, people often confuse the feelings of hunger and thirst.  So, drink water before reaching for that snack.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: cramx3 on July 16, 2019, 08:19:12 AM
I did have a huge container of almonds at my desk but I finished it last month and haven't replenished. 

Almonds are great.  A great way to save money is to buy the huge bag of raw almonds at Costco and roast them in the oven yourself.  It's super easy and cuts the cost by about 75%.

I was buying unsalted raw from target.  Essentially work gives me some money every month to stock my office with snacks and I haven't used that money to buy another batch.  I should since it's a healthy snack, right now I just got rid of pretty much any snack that was in my office.

Hopefully no one minds this thread including nutrition as part of the discussion!  Oh snap!  I just noticed this is my thread. Guess I'm changing the title!   :lol

Is Bulk Barn a thing in the US?  That's another inexpensive way to get nuts and such.  Just stay away from the chip/chocolate aisle.

@Cram... your water intake is exceptional - great for satiation, and great to keep your metabolism burning.  Also good on ya for not drinking your calories. If you're not doing any significant weight training, there is absolutely no need for protein powder to supplement your macros.

Two epiphanies I had during my weight loss and fitness journey's. First, it takes your brain 20 minutes to get the signal from your body that you are full.  So, I cut my portion size by a third, and NEVER ate until I was full.  If I was still hungry 20-30 mins after eating, I'd grab a small snack.  95% of the time, I never needed that snack.

Second, people often confuse the feelings of hunger and thirst.  So, drink water before reaching for that snack.

I feel like nutrition is part of fitness so while maybe we are focussing a bit much there, personally, I think it relates.  Never heard of bulk barn but that doesn't mean it isn't a thing.  And as for the water, I also get gout if I start getting dehydrated so my water intake is already super high but what you mention about hunger is probably why I am drinking even more water than before, because it helps with feeling hungry. 

As for my calorie intake, yesterday was simple since everything I ate came out of a package, two bowls of oatmeal totalling 300 calories, a can of soup for dinner which was 380 calories, and I was still hungry after so I had an apple lara bar (something I got with my previous months work snack budget) which was 180 calories.  So 860 yesterday.  I had two cups of black coffee, not sure if there are calories in that but if so not much.  And I biked a quick 4 miles last night.  After thinking about this more, I probably should actually at least hit the 1k calorie mark and not short my already super low intake.   I was planning on doing an oatmeal lunch again today and I have a chicken breast marinating at home for dinner and some frozen veggies I'll heat up for a side dish.  I may have to add another snack in, but I currently don't have any.  I need to go food shopping because another part of my weight loss is trying to save money so I've slowly been eating all my stock of food in my pantry and that stock is running low now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Back on the bandwagon
Post by: H2 on July 16, 2019, 01:14:55 PM
Hopefully no one minds this thread including nutrition as part of the discussion!  Oh snap!  I just noticed this is my thread. Guess I'm changing the title!   :lol
Nutrition is part of fitness so I think it's fine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: vtgrad on July 16, 2019, 02:31:01 PM
Nutrition is half the game in my opinion; everyone's physiology is different but nutrition can make or break your fitness goals in my experience.

I'm 39, 175-180 depending upon when I weigh, 6'2 and fairly muscular (not where I used to be, but that's OK); over my time being serious about health (probably 18-years of my 39) I've seen my diet make more impact than my routines.  My wife and I moved to a whole-food plant based diet for 5-6 days of the week (we eat meat on the 7th) and I've seen it change my stomach and my energy.  I'm not vegan because I still eat boiled eggs during the week (one every day), but we really only eat "meat" once a week (including sushi).  Reading "How not to Die" helped us develop our diet.

I've also recently moved to time restricted eating (intermittent fasting) and my energy levels and concentration levels, especially early morning, are through the roof.  Joe Rogan's youtube channel has a compilation vid of several of his guests speaking about it, including two physicians if I remember correctly.  It's a good vid to get you thinking about a routine.  I'm on a 16-8 routine right now and that seems to work best for me personally; I take in my first "meal" (anything other than water) at 11:30 and try to be finished eating by 7:30.  On the nights I play basketball during the week, that's a tougher schedule to keep, so I sometimes will cheat a bit and have Kefir and Almonds after I play.

My training has moved more toward calisthenics over the past few months, but I'm still following a basic lifting routine (The Beast... a version of James McAvoy's workout for the movie Glass) with yoga and Tai Chi.  I'm stoked to now have a Slack Line and I'm looking forward to falling off of it as much as possible  :biggrin: 

You guys can change your bodies at any age, and nutrition is the key based on my experiences.  If you can see the change clearly in your mind, you can do it. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 16, 2019, 08:23:51 PM
<1000 is dangerously low for anyone - and frankly there is no need to be that much of a deficit.

At an average of 1500 a day, which does NOT starve me, and very moderate exercise (even just walking for half an hour a day), I generally lose 10 lb. a month and feel great.  I up the calories a bit with more protein when doing a hard workout, like 25+ miles on the bike.  I'm getting close to where I don't need to lose any more and just need to maintain where I am. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 19, 2019, 11:09:43 AM
As of this morning, I broke under 190 for the first time in awhile.  According to BMI calculators, I'm literally just a few ounces "overweight."  :lol  But for my own goals, as I posted above, I'm still carrying a bit more fat and less muscle than I would like, so I need to lose more than just a few ounces to get to where I want to be.  Still, I'm close and getting closer!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2019, 11:13:52 AM
Awesome Bosky!

I've been pretty disciplined this week with caloric restriction, and a shit-ton of water, so I hope to be back on the downward trend for my routine Sunday weigh-in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 19, 2019, 11:29:27 AM
Nice Bosk, I've been pretty good this week as well although no work out wednesday since that turned out to be a 17 hour work day and no workout today since I'm going to philly right after work, but I think this concert is the type I end up jumping and dancing a lot getting sweaty so I wouldn't be surprised if I get some workout there (probably not even enough to burn off the booze though  :lol) but my eating has been consistently on point this week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 19, 2019, 11:29:56 AM
I have mostly been pretty disciplined for the past few months, with a few slight exceptions here and there.  For instance, at my niece's wedding, she did a traditional Chinese wedding banquet that is 10 courses.  I could have been disciplined and just partaken of small amounts of just a couple of the healthier courses.  But on the flip side, they are all expensive dishes that you don't really have an opportunity to have in any setting other than a Chinese wedding banquet, and those only come along in my family once every several years.  So I just went into it with the mindset that I was going to enjoy as much of it as I liked, and just continue to be disciplined outside of that meal (which I have).  I also told myself that once I broke under 190, the first Friday after that (which is today), I would go ahead and reward myself with a breakfast from the cafeteria downstairs at my work, which has really awesome breakfasts.  It is way too many calories for one meal.  But once in a great while, if it is something I really enjoy and I can exercise enough self-control to not let it develop into a bad habit, I see nothing wrong with doing that.  And on a day like today, I'm skipping my small between breakfast and lunch snack, limiting lunch to mostly veggies (I say "mostly" because my salad is sprinkled with some seeds and a tiny bit of lowfat bleu cheese crumbs for flavor/texture), and I'll burn 1200-1500 calories on my bike ride home later, so...  Small reward and commensurate setback this morning with that, but with the physical activity and keeping disciplined the rest of my meals, I'll be back under this weight before the weekend is over.  Anyhow, I'm rambling.  tl;dnr version:  I'm making good progress and made a conscious decision to reward myself today in a way that is slightly counterproductive, but not detrimental to my overall goals.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 19, 2019, 11:44:41 AM
That's awesome, bosk. You should feel proud. Way to go!

I'm pretty active at my job so on busy days I'm too tired to get to the gym. Already sweat buckets and got 8000 steps in. Friday thru Sunday I've been trying to do 20k every day plus lifting... gotta earn those beers.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 19, 2019, 11:52:43 AM
Mine is more or less a desk job, so I don't have that option.  But on days that I ride my bike, I get a 25 mile bike commute, so that's a built-in. 1200-1500 calorie workout right there.  We also have a back yard project that is involving digging up and removing several hundred pounds of granite, so I generally get a good deal of natural, sweat-inducing exercise for a few hours a week working on that as well. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 19, 2019, 12:19:52 PM
So far I did 11 miles bike ride, damn 20+ miles seems so much but thats awesome.

My job is like half desk half on my feet.  Our data center is pretty big so its quite a walk to go around all of it, plus moving equipment and whatnot (which isn't a daily thing, but I was doing a lot of that Wednesday).  A normal day is about 6k steps at work and a busy day I can hit 10k.  Today is super slow and I am not looking to change that though, currently at 3500 steps and sitting comfortably in my office, hoping not to have to leave it again until I leave for the day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2019, 07:47:33 PM
Bosk... that's a fantastic post/approach to nutrition.  I loathe the idea of "cheat" meals - REWARD meals are a far better and healthier outlook towards anything that typically breaks one's nutrition protocol.  Ya have to 'earn' the reward, whereas anyone can 'cheat' at anytime and/or as often as they want.  Cheating is easy; rewarding requires work.   :tup

Also, planning to cut back on days around the 'reward' is damn near perfect.  Balance the overage of the reward with a few underage days, and by the end of the week, you're still on point.

Flawless victory.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2019, 10:15:24 AM
I think this concert is the type I end up jumping and dancing a lot getting sweaty so I wouldn't be surprised if I get some workout there (probably not even enough to burn off the booze though  :lol)

Had about 4k steps when I left work and 16k when I went to bed, yup, the concert had me going.  That was essentially a 3 hour workout on my feet, rocking out the entire night drenched in sweat.  Good fucking times.  But still, doubt that burned off the three IPAs I had.  I'll be hitting the bike soon.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2019, 12:45:18 PM
Did a 30-minute HIIT routine in the 27C (close to 40C with the humidity) heat in my backyard at 10:30 this morning.  3-minute circuit:

single leg step-up/jump (5x each leg)
skipping rope (50x)
box jumps (10)
Rest ... for however much time I have left until 3 mins is up.

Holy fuck what a workout.  Had my heart-rate up to 179 towards the end.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 22, 2019, 02:32:06 PM
Nutrition is half the game in my opinion; everyone's physiology is different but nutrition can make or break your fitness goals in my experience.

I'm 39, 175-180 depending upon when I weigh, 6'2 and fairly muscular (not where I used to be, but that's OK); over my time being serious about health (probably 18-years of my 39) I've seen my diet make more impact than my routines.  My wife and I moved to a whole-food plant based diet for 5-6 days of the week (we eat meat on the 7th) and I've seen it change my stomach and my energy.  I'm not vegan because I still eat boiled eggs during the week (one every day), but we really only eat "meat" once a week (including sushi).  Reading "How not to Die" helped us develop our diet.

That's a good book and I'd recommend it to anyone else interested in a relatively comprehensive look at the research linking whole food, plant-based nutrition to lower disease outcomes. And in fact its for that reason that I would avoid something like the keto diet—there's simply not enough research out there for me to feel safe in following it. Another good source is the author Michael Greger's website "Nutrition Facts," which has a lot of informative videos, articles, etc. on a ton of different topics. My only critique of the book and his work in general is that it tends of be rather reductionist. He focuses a lot on highly specific nutrient function, specific food items, etc., and perhaps doesn't do enough to address the big picture. For example, he's very prone to celebrating different "super foods," a concept which I find really counterproductive.

I'm a-okay with people eating whatever they want, however they want, and whenever they want, but it grinds my gears when I hear people recommending diets without providing evidence from the scientific literature to support it. Sure, there may be a certain amount of conflicting evidence out there, but if you're going to talk about how great the Atkins diet is (for example), at least make the effort to show how and why it actually works, both short- and long-term. Not that anyone here is doing that, and I don't mean to rant—it's just a pet peeve of mine.

I've never focused much on calories, but I think that can be a really helpful tool for a lot of people. My philosophy is that if the food is healthy and I don't eat until I'm sick, I shouldn't have to think about how many calories are in there. Fruits are my favorite. I probably eat 3-4 bananas a day, at least a couple handful of berries (lately a lot of blueberries), and fill in the day with whatever else is in season. Currently that means a ton of peaches and watermelon. Man I love peaches! I think if I were ever to go on a really restrictive diet, I would choose a raw frugivore diet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 25, 2019, 12:34:11 PM
I took a week off the gym to rest my foot; I was feeling weird pains in the toes of one of my feet, but I'm ready to get back at it.

I also discovered powdered peanut butter. Put a couple small scoops in a shake with my chocolate protein powder and ohhh my lord. Mixes waaay better and more easily than real peanut butter and tastes just like it. This stuff is a game changer. Gonna use it all the time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2019, 12:39:08 PM
Never heard of powder peanut butter before

Actually feeling really good about my fitness journey today because a guy who works in the same building as me complimented me out of no where about looking slimmer  :yarr got to keep it up which will be tough this weekend since I'll be away from home.  I may be able to get a workout in though since I'll have some down time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 25, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
Congrats dude! Nothing quite like getting complimented especially by strangers. (Powdered peanut butter - I picked it up at Wal-Mart, but it was the only type of powdered peanut butter they had, so it's easy to miss.)

I fully intend on using those treadmills/exercise areas during ProgPower, even when I'm hungover.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2019, 12:48:44 PM
I hope I'm in such better shape come ProgPower, its really coming up quickly now though so I can only make so much progress.  I'll probably hit the gym there as well, we'll have to get a picture of the DTF workout at Progpower crew  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 25, 2019, 01:06:58 PM
I hope I'm in such better shape come ProgPower, its really coming up quickly now though so I can only make so much progress.  I'll probably hit the gym there as well, we'll have to get a picture of the DTF workout at Progpower crew  :lol

 :lol :lol Brightly colored sweatbands and baggy clothing. 80s style!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
 :rollin jingle in spandex
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 25, 2019, 01:18:17 PM
:rollin  I just got an image of Chad bouncing into the venue wearing neon spandex, leg warmers, and headband, a Walkman, and loudly humming Olivia Newton John's "Let's Get Physical" at the top of his lungs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 25, 2019, 02:12:30 PM
If there's even a chance of that happening, I'm making sure my phone is fully charged and ready to post pictures.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2019, 02:38:49 PM
 :lol what a shit show this is going to be
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2019, 07:18:15 PM
:rollin  I just got an image of Chad bouncing into the venue wearing neon spandex, leg warmers, and headband, a Walkman, and loudly humming Olivia Newton John's "Let's Get Physical" at the top of his lungs.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/nRlv3MPV80Ihi/giphy.gif)

@ cram/Katt... I'll give you a helluva workout right in our condo.

Wait, that's not what I meant.  Well it is, but it isn't. :lol

Seriously, I do a ton of HIIT / bodyweight workouts that needs no equipment.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2019, 02:56:33 PM
Yea, I don't know if I can handle those haha

Since I had the afternoon to kill in Brooklyn and there's no gym in this hotel plus a nice day, I went out and took a nice walk.  Didn't realize how close and how nice Prospect Park is in Brooklyn.  It felt just like Central Park in NYC.  Anyway, according to google maps, that was a 90 minute 5 mile walk around the park.  I did take a nice break sitting on a rock just taking in the scenery but also a nice way to get some exercise in on a day when I typically probably wouldn't have. 

Having said that, rocking out to Iron Maiden in the pit for almost 2 hours is more than enough work out as well  :metal I honestly can't remember the last time I went so hard rocking out and for so long, jumping and what not, and I never felt too tired.  Like my friend kept saying he needs to stop and go back cause he was getting too tired, but I think it's from working out so much that I have even more energy than before.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2019, 03:22:40 PM
Awesome, Marc.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: axeman90210 on July 28, 2019, 08:05:57 AM
Meant to say at the bar last night Marc, you looked noticeably slimmed down :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2019, 09:19:50 AM
Weekly weigh-in ... 182.0 - down 1.8lbs from last week (though still up 4-ish from April).  I'll take this as a win, since jingle.son and I went to a local WingFest, and chomped down on a bunch of wings, topped up with an ice cream cone.  But, I'd planned for it for a few days by keeping my calories lower than normal.

Back to being fully disciplined this week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 28, 2019, 11:55:09 AM
Meant to say at the bar last night Marc, you looked noticeably slimmed down :tup

Thanks, good times last night  :metal

Nice, Chad Wingfest sounds yummy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: vtgrad on July 29, 2019, 09:56:49 AM
Weekly weigh-in ... 182.0 - down 1.8lbs from last week (though still up 4-ish from April).  I'll take this as a win, since jingle.son and I went to a local WingFest, and chomped down on a bunch of wings, topped up with an ice cream cone.  But, I'd planned for it for a few days by keeping my calories lower than normal.

Back to being fully disciplined this week.

Good on ya Jingle!  Progress is progress and there's nothing wrong with rewarding that progress... psychology at it's finest!

My wife and I "rewarded" ourselves Saturday morning at our local farmer's market... this was completely unplanned as we were there for Kale, Basil, and bones for bone broth (I've found a local cattleman that's willing to give me some of his marrow and knuckle bones when he butchers).  The Balkan Bakery here in Abingdon VA has the BEST Baklava I've ever tasted... absolutely destroys the Baklava I had in the Middle East... they were there and my wife and I put some down!  I'm telling you guys, there's nothing like really, really good Baklava and Turkish Coffee.

I figured an extra set of pull-ups and hanging leg raises would take care of the extra sugar calories.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2019, 10:41:59 AM
Slow and steady is the progress I strive for.  When I first dropped a ton of weight in 2006, it was 40lbs in 8 months... 1-2 lbs per week.  IMO, that's the 'right' way of doing it.  I just need to ensure I don't fall into the trap of 'rewarding' myself too frequently. 
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Post by: bosk1 on July 29, 2019, 10:54:33 AM
I just need to ensure I don't fall into the trap of 'rewarding' myself too frequently. 

:lol  Don't we all?
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Post by: vtgrad on July 29, 2019, 11:21:57 AM
I just need to ensure I don't fall into the trap of 'rewarding' myself too frequently. 

:lol  Don't we all?

 :lol  Yeah... have to watch that myself.  I keep saying to myself that the dark chocolate that I'm shoving down my throat is good for antioxidant balance yada, yada, yada. 

My wife and I try to set one meal a week aside as a reward meal (normally has desert attached to it; lot of bakeries around us  :biggrin:) and that's worked well for us both.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2019, 11:24:00 AM
One a week is good.  at 4-5 'meals' per day, that's 28-35.  Going clean on all but 1 of those is still an A+ week.  So long as the reward isn't Tess Holiday outlandish.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 29, 2019, 11:36:07 AM
I know it's already been touched on, but I find that, within reason, when I am consuming a LOT of water throughout the day, my body tends to be a LOT more forgiving of slight overages and full-on "rewards."  When my water intake drops off for a few days and I go overboard a bit, it tends to show up on the scales immediately and be more drastic. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2019, 12:00:55 PM
I know it's already been touched on, but I find that, within reason, when I am consuming a LOT of water throughout the day, my body tends to be a LOT more forgiving of slight overages and full-on "rewards."  When my water intake drops off for a few days and I go overboard a bit, it tends to show up on the scales immediately and be more drastic.

Absolutely 100%.  Back in '05, I could absolutely tell which weeks I was good on my water intake, and which I wasn't.  Speaking of which, I need to go pee.
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Post by: Lethean on July 29, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
I just got back from vacation, during which I consumed a ridiculous amount of sugar.  I also walked a ton, so hopefully the damage won't be too much.  But this has been a bit of a lazy, excuse-making year in general, so let's see how well I do for the second half.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on July 29, 2019, 11:43:10 PM
The game changer for me was 18 months ago when I switched jobs. Last april i relocated 2 office towers up the road to a newer, LEED certified environmental building. They do about everything they can to get you to ride your bike to work:

- High security,  indoor parkade with dedicated bike lock area, which itself is high security upright locking stands

-water station and  bike mechanic station equipped with tools and air

- Locker rooms with full towel service,  day use lockers, hair dryers, cleaning and grooming products

-jumbo lockers for rent if you want to store stuff. I keep my entire work wardrobe in my rented locker which is conveniently located next to the 1 day turnaround drop off dry cleaning lockers

My commute is only 7km the direct route or ~10 if i mountain bike through the river valley trail network,  but that 30-60min each day of basically free cardio exercise has really upped my fitness. For those of you who haven't discovered bike commuting , you should give it a try if it's feasible where you live/work. Great exercise,  and you get to work ready to crush some spreadsheets. Well, in my case it's spreadsheets.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on July 30, 2019, 06:58:46 AM
My commute is 35 miles one way, and I don't know how safe it is to bike along the NJ turnpike  :lol regardless, I've been riding my exercise bike for a few months now, but I can't remember the last time I rode a real bike.  When I was walking around Prospect Park last weekend, I saw the city bike rentals and was kind of curious to give one a spin around the park, but I was thinking maybe not the best idea since it's been so long and there's a lot of bikers/cars out for my fat ass to be testing out my biking skills
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 30, 2019, 09:03:00 AM
My commute is about 25 miles.  I try to bike it 2-3 times a week.  The vast majority of that mileage is on a paved bike trail along the American River, and it is such a beautiful ride.  That hour and a half on the days I ride is the best part of my day.  I'm hoping my hand heals up quickly and that there is no serious damage to my shoulder so I can get back out soon.
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Post by: The Walrus on July 30, 2019, 03:01:02 PM
So I've never used the spin bikes at my gym... but I'm thinking about giving it a go tonight. I've been a member for 8 freaking years and have never used the bikes. I'm just soooo bored with using the treadmill and arc trainer. I hear spin bikes are no joke if you work at it, so I'm excited. There's almost nobody ever in the room with the bikes so hopefully it's not awkward  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on July 30, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
For spin, I would find out when the classes are and do a spin class.  It is probably the easiest class to get over self-consciousness quickly, and you will get SO much more out of it.  Trust me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 30, 2019, 05:37:43 PM
For spin, I would find out when the classes are and do a spin class.  It is probably the easiest class to get over self-consciousness quickly, and you will get SO much more out of it.  Trust me.

I f&*%ing hate exercising as a group, so I'm just gonna wing it. I work out specifically to be alone. I'm not self conscious about what I do in the gym, I've just never seen anyone back there because it's so isolated  :lol I might get more out of the class but I really just want to be alone when I do my thing.
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Post by: bosk1 on July 30, 2019, 05:41:57 PM
I hear you.  I'm kinda the same way, which is why I don't even go to a gym.  But there is a lot to spin that isn't intuitive.  I guarantee that if you go to a class, the leader will have you doing things that will make you say, "Oh, wow.  I didn't even know I could/should be doing that."  I encourage you to just try it ONCE.  But that's all I'll say.  I know how you are.  :p
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Post by: The Walrus on July 30, 2019, 05:43:02 PM
Don't tell me how to live my life!!  :lol

Nah, I appreciate the advice, I'll keep it in mind - it'll be weird using it for the first time but maybe I'll get used to it. Maybe I'll even start listening to audiobooks.  :corn
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Post by: bosk1 on July 30, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
Maybe I'll even start listening to audiobooks.  :corn

Or black folk metal.  (that's not the same as metal produced by black folks, right?)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 30, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
Bosk is right,  though.  You should try a spin class. They're fun. And exhausting. But still fun.
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Post by: The Walrus on July 30, 2019, 06:47:42 PM
30 minutes on this bike and it's the most I've sweat all year. I've found sanctuary
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Post by: cramx3 on July 31, 2019, 06:19:17 AM
Yea only takes me 10 minutes before I'm drenched in sweat and I don't even go hard compared to your average biker, but I'm also one who likes to just do my own thing by myself, hence my little basement work out area.  I'm sure a class would be much better, but I get it, its not for me either.  I don't plan on ever buying a peloton either.
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Post by: The Walrus on July 31, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
My only problem is that the seat feels too small. Or maybe I have a huge ass.  :lol Ready to give it another go tonight.
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Post by: bosk1 on July 31, 2019, 12:54:32 PM
My only problem is that the seat feels too small. Or maybe I have a huge ass.  :lol Ready to give it another go tonight.

Well, they are generally made to simulate real cycling seats vs. more padded, comfortable stationary bike seats.  And there are good reasons for that based on the fact that the workouts they are designed for are meant to simulate real cycling workouts. 

Hey, just a thought:  If you are still dead set against going to a spin class, maybe find a video of one online and watch it.  It will give you an idea of how to get a good workout doing a lot of things that, again, you probably wouldn't intuit on your own.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 31, 2019, 01:36:30 PM
a lot of things that, again, you probably wouldn't intuit on your own.

Careful, a mod might view this as a personal attack.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on July 31, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
My only problem is that the seat feels too small. Or maybe I have a huge ass.  :lol Ready to give it another go tonight.

Well, they are generally made to simulate real cycling seats vs. more padded, comfortable stationary bike seats.  And there are good reasons for that based on the fact that the workouts they are designed for are meant to simulate real cycling workouts. 

Hey, just a thought:  If you are still dead set against going to a spin class, maybe find a video of one online and watch it.  It will give you an idea of how to get a good workout doing a lot of things that, again, you probably wouldn't intuit on your own.

No, I mean, even compared to a real cycling seat, these seats are small. But these aren't exactly high quality bikes. I can see why they're sitting in the back room. There's not even a TV in that room. It was me, a bike, and Bill Burr's podcast while the swolebros grunted like they were having an orgy in the main room.  :lol

And I did watch videos before going to the gym, and when I came home I looked for some specifically aimed at the bikes at my gym :)
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Post by: The Walrus on August 02, 2019, 01:22:37 PM
So, erm... in a sudden twist of events I canceled my gym membership!  :lol I really need to motivate myself to get more fresh air and see the outdoors, and I will save $30/month this way, so I made the rare impulse decision and cut it. Gonna go for some cardio around the nearby pond tonight. We'll see how committed I am once the weather gets colder. Hope I made the right choice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on August 03, 2019, 07:14:56 PM
My commute is about 25 miles.  I try to bike it 2-3 times a week.  The vast majority of that mileage is on a paved bike trail along the American River, and it is such a beautiful ride.  That hour and a half on the days I ride is the best part of my day.  I'm hoping my hand heals up quickly and that there is no serious damage to my shoulder so I can get back out soon.
My dad used to bike to work every day. It sounds like wholesome exercise, plus it saves money and is good for the environment.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2019, 03:50:56 PM
So I was forced to take a bit of a break on my exercising this week.  I worked out Tuesday and then Wednesday afternoon I started having a gout attack that got really bad into Wednesday evening in my ankle, blowing it up and making me unable to put weight on it.  It was pretty excruciating pain, if anyone ever had gout before would know.  High uric acid levels in my blood is hereditary from my father's side of the family.  I've been dealing with it for quite awhile now, essentially I just limit my beer and red meat intake and consume lots of water with a daily cherry tart pill (natural anti-inflammatory).  It works, however, since I started my diet/exercise I've had a few minor attacks before this major one. So to go back to the problem with a 1k daily calorie diet, I'm definitely not getting the nutrition I need, specifically vitamin C which I need with fiber to help keep gout attacks down.  So I had been thinking about this for awhile, but always forgot when at the store to get a daily multivitamin.  I finally got some, and vitamin C specifically, and went hard on that Thursday which cleared up the gout by last night.  Wasn't until today I got back to working out.  My ankle is still swollen but doesn't hurt at all.  Did my work out, no issues today.  I kept my diet though while not working out so I think that alone is shredding some weight.  I say that, because today, I have officially become too small around the waist for my belt.  AKA, the last belt buckle is too loose and I need a new one, along with new pants/shorts as they are all ridiculously too big.  I tried on and was able to fit into a bunch of my old Iron Maiden shirts that I had decommed because I was too big for them.  I'm really happy about that.  Thinking for progpower, I will wear 4 different Iron Maiden shirts that I was unable to fit into until just this week. (actually 3, one I just bought last weekend and I might have fucked up buying an XL (better than the XXL I was buying) since a L might just have fit fine)
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 10, 2019, 04:21:01 PM
Dude, that's awesome (the shirt size stuff... not the gout).

I was buying Ls for many years, then my weight ballooned back up, and I acknowledged reality by buying XLs for a few years.  Now I'm back to Ls, and it's so gratifying to wear those shirts with ease.  Let that be your motivation for PPUSA - you're only gonna buy Ls.   :tup

I've actually got a couple of Ms from a few years ago (2008ish, because one was from the ProgNation tour).  I can squeeze in to those kinda, but they are a little snug.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2019, 04:28:09 PM
You're a taller dude so it makes sense you'd need a big shirt too without ever being fat.  Yup, I plan on buying a PP shirt and I want a L.  Not to pay the extra fee for the XXL like last year. 
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Post by: The Walrus on August 10, 2019, 04:52:41 PM
Man I wish I could wear L but the best shirts that fit me are the tall XL fits. A lot of XL shirts are super wide but short and I need the opposite  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 10, 2019, 08:01:16 PM
You're a taller dude so it makes sense you'd need a big shirt too without ever being fat.  Yup, I plan on buying a PP shirt and I want a L.  Not to pay the extra fee for the XXL like last year.

I'm only 6'1"... but yeah, sometimes the make of Ls are too short.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on August 10, 2019, 09:12:18 PM
Only 6"1? Only? Fuck you lol. I'm 5"8 and change. I'd give up a middle toe to be 6"1.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2019, 12:10:19 AM
 :lol "only"

I'm 5'10" and I recall Jingle being taller than me
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2019, 05:03:54 AM
Well, I used to be 6'3".  I've lost a couple of inches over the last 30 years.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on August 13, 2019, 12:06:42 PM
Keto thing is going crazy well, even better than when I actually tracked calories meticulously. Would really recommend. Every day is just eggs, meat, cheese and tons of green vegetables. I got fat last year (185lb at 5'8) and have been cutting for a while. After starting keto, I lost 10lb over the last six weeks bringing me to a comfy 155lb, and I've never had these kinds of results in any of my fitness endeavors in my life. A friend I haven't seen in a while complimented me heavily yesterday, saying I was "getting ripped" and "looked really fit" which was so flattering. Also, I generally feel just fine and pretty alert all day long, skin is really clear, sleeping is easy, and I am not spacing out nearly as much. The only real downside I feel is exercise endurance. I just can't run for more than 3 miles without completely hitting a wall. I'm not "cardio-tired", but my legs feel like they literally run out of juice and propulsion power is gone. I think I'll keep cutting for a while and see how lean I can really get before switching to something more sustainable like paleo. I am becoming increasingly convinced that bread, rice, pasta, cereal, etc. are more detrimental to fitness goals than I initially thought.

Only 6"1? Only? Fuck you lol. I'm 5"8 and change. I'd give up a middle toe to be 6"1.
5'7/5'8 here and comfortable. I feel it's a good height for physical comfort almost anywhere. Also less distance to go when gaining or losing weight to achieve certain goals. Also nice thrift store clothes are easy to find--I think because people gain weight and give up all their small shirts and 30/30 pants. Also shorter people live longer. Tall people have a greater risk of issues and heart-related diseases. Chin up bruh!
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Post by: cramx3 on August 13, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
I've been eating oatmeal packs for lunch as part of my diet.  Two packs at 300 calories combined.  Those packs have lots of sugar in them though.  I started testing last week, and this week I'm all in now, but I'm just going with the plain oats that you can microwave quickly and adding a banana to it.  Comes out to the same 300 calories, but should be healthier and feels like more food since the sugar is less but oats are more.  Then next week I can bring in strawberries to switch it up or something, although bananas are nice and cheap.

I am a bit worried about falling on my diet come September but if I can keep this up for two more weeks, ill be in position to just hold myself over while I travel a bit and maybe can't keep up with the exercise and diet routine I've got into.
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Post by: Grappler on August 13, 2019, 12:35:42 PM
I am a bit worried about falling on my diet come September but if I can keep this up for two more weeks, ill be in position to just hold myself over while I travel a bit and maybe can't keep up with the exercise and diet routine I've got into.

Unless you're doing some specific/fad diet, it's pretty flexible.  6 years ago I lost 30lbs and kept the majority of it off.  After 5 years, my son was born, I had 2 young kids, didn't get much sleep and started eating like crap again for a year, gaining about 10-13lbs back.  Last year, I went back to my routine that I used when I was on Weight Watchers and lost that weight, cutting back in certain areas.  Right now, I hover around 150.  Sometimes a little up, sometimes a little down.  I don't beat myself up over it if it's higher than I expect.  A few days with better self control of what I eat gets me back to normal.

Don't stress if you start to fall off a bit - you can always get back into the routine.  You can also allow yourself some cheat calories to treat yourself now and then.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 13, 2019, 12:43:30 PM
About 10 years ago, I went through a similar situation where I just went hardcore diet/exercise mode and dropped 55 lbs in 6 months.  I kept it off for 2 years and then life changes and next thing you know, I cheated a little and a little more and more and eventually put all those 55lbs back on over the next few years.  My goal isn't to just lose weight, but to not fall back into old patterns either.  September will be my first challenge.  It's easy to keep my routine when I go to work every day and things just become routine M-F for me.  But I have the entire month of September off, one trip booked, and at least two more I am going to be booking soon plus a work trip booked for the first week of October.  That's a real challenge to not only find a way to keep the workouts going but to not enjoy too many of those extra calorie treat myself I'm on vacation meals.  But more importantly, when it's all over and I can get back into my routine, I want to be able to do that too and not be in a mental mode where I just fall off it all.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2019, 01:08:29 PM

Don't stress if you start to fall off a bit - you can always get back into the routine.  You can also allow yourself some cheat reward calories to treat yourself now and then.

Fix'd

Look, if anyone has one 'bad' meal.. hell, even a 'bad' DAY in a week, that's still 95% or 85% clean.  We don't have to (or want to) be 100% clean all the time.  It's an unrealistic goal.

H... good on ya, but carbs are not the enemy of fitness/health.  Keto's working for you... great.  I would surmise that your lack of endurance may have something to due to a lack of fuel (ie, carbs) in your body.  That's just my un-professional opinion though.

This is a tough week for me - jingle.kids' b-day, so there's ice-cream cake, and banana-cheescake that they wanted for their birthday (both home-made).  Extra cardio all week long for me!
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Post by: bosk1 on August 13, 2019, 02:11:09 PM
Fast results are a great motivator.  But often, they are not sustainable results.  Inducing your body into ketosis does produce noticeable, quick results.  But many doctors feel it isn't a sustainable diet.  And in my observation, most people end up not finding it to be sutainable just as a practical matter. 
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Post by: Grappler on August 13, 2019, 03:18:26 PM
My goal isn't to just lose weight, but to not fall back into old patterns either.

I donated most of my clothes when I lost weight and started wearing smaller sizes.  That forced me to keep to my routine, since I didn't want to have to buy bigger clothes again.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2019, 04:50:13 PM
My goal isn't to just lose weight, but to not fall back into old patterns either.

I donated most of my clothes when I lost weight and started wearing smaller sizes.  That forced me to keep to my routine, since I didn't want to have to buy bigger clothes again.

I kept 1 pair of 'fat' jeans just as a reminder of what I never wanted to be again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: bosk1 on August 13, 2019, 04:56:26 PM
Chad, I would like to have your fat jeans, please.  For...um...personal reasons. 
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Post by: The Walrus on August 13, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
I'll take those fat jeans, I recently discovered red velvet Oreos and will need those ASAP

I'm only half joking
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Post by: cramx3 on August 13, 2019, 05:27:58 PM
get that oreo talk out of here! I miss America's favorite cookie
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
Chad, I would like to have your fat jeans, please.  For...um...personal reasons.

Dude ... that was when I was pushing 240. Size 38, when in all actuality, that's prolly equivalent to a 40 nowadays.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 13, 2019, 06:18:58 PM
Chad, I would like to have your fat jeans, please.  For...um...personal reasons.

Dude ... that was when I was pushing 240. Size 38, when in all actuality, that's prolly equivalent to a 40 nowadays.

damn dude, that's pretty much where I was at.  I never weighed recently myself but I was definitely 230 at one point (and probably more after that last weigh) and size 38 jeans.  I'm still wearing them since I've got nothing else atm, but they look ridiculous and my belt is just about done for in terms of being able to keep them tight.  I'm likely going shopping for a belt this weekend and probably some new pants/shorts before Atlanta.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on August 14, 2019, 02:40:08 PM
H... good on ya, but carbs are not the enemy of fitness/health.  Keto's working for you... great.  I would surmise that your lack of endurance may have something to due to a lack of fuel (ie, carbs) in your body.  That's just my un-professional opinion though.
Agreed on both counts. LISS cardio is way more difficult w/o carbs. I agree with you that carbs are not intrinsically bad, although I think going carb-less is just fine, too. Keto is not the only path to success, but as I said, it's been working better for me than any other approach has.

Fast results are a great motivator.  But often, they are not sustainable results.  Inducing your body into ketosis does produce noticeable, quick results.  But many doctors feel it isn't a sustainable diet.  And in my observation, most people end up not finding it to be sutainable just as a practical matter. 
I think that's probably true that adherence rates are not better for keto dieters than other types of diets. In fact, one study  (https://sci-fit.net/adhere-ketogenic-diet/)showed that to be the case. I have personally found that is easier to stick to and easier to get a calorie deficit without tracking eveything, and I think that's all that matters. It's only been about seven weeks, so I'll let you know if I really can stick to it. As for sustainable results...I guess we'll see. I'm planning on adding fruits and sweet potatoes at a certain point, switching from keto to paleo. I do feel that bread et al are nasty diet-killers. We'll see, though, I'll let you know.
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Post by: TheSilentHam on August 14, 2019, 08:37:51 PM
I have been on a doctor-directed ketogenic diet for 6 months, and have also been exercising.  The weight loss has been 40 lbs., but I have been making even greater progress on my body fat % instead of concentrating on just raw weight loss.  Also, the primary reason I started this diet is for blood sugar management.  I wanted to move beyond just managing my condition and look at reversing insulin resistance and type II diabetes.  Based on some ongoing studies, it does look like a ketogenic diet is an effective method to reverse (not cure) Type II diabetes, prediabetes and insulin resistance. I have been able to drastically reduce my medications since changing my diet and exercise.  Given that 1 in 3 adults have prediabetes or type II diabetes, it may be worth paying some attention to the research.  Here is a link to some related studies: https://www.virtahealth.com/research#publications (https://www.virtahealth.com/research#publications)   I do hope to be more metabolically flexible at some point (more able to quickly switch between carbs and fat as a fuel source), but for now, I'm in this for the long haul.



Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 16, 2019, 05:37:44 PM
Two concerts in a row plus work equals no work out the last two days but diets been good and I finally got a new belt as my pants weren't staying on anymore

But today's a good day. Got a random compliment from a guy at work and then after work I stopped at a friends house for a bit and he was amazed at my downsizing,  then his gf came home and showered me with complimrnts both saying they didnt even recognize me  :metal and home now and back on the bike, feeling good about myself for the first time in awhile.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 16, 2019, 08:21:07 PM
Awesome, Marc!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 19, 2019, 08:48:16 AM
Two concerts in a row plus work equals no work out the last two days but diets been good and I finally got a new belt as my pants weren't staying on anymore

But today's a good day. Got a random compliment from a guy at work and then after work I stopped at a friends house for a bit and he was amazed at my downsizing,  then his gf came home and showered me with complimrnts both saying they didnt even recognize me  :metal and home now and back on the bike, feeling good about myself for the first time in awhile.

:clap:    This is awesome  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2019, 04:56:02 PM
Fast results are a great motivator.  But often, they are not sustainable results.  Inducing your body into ketosis does produce noticeable, quick results.  But many doctors feel it isn't a sustainable diet.  And in my observation, most people end up not finding it to be sutainable just as a practical matter.

I want to agree with this right here for the most part. 

I tried all the different kind of diets with success over my time, and I got some success, but there's no way I could maintain a close to zero carb diet day in day out.  I've learnt that keeping things simple, picking the right foods most of the time and training your ass off will get better results.  Now, if I want ice cream or a chocolate or a cake, I fucking have it becuase I have the training to back it up and a consistintly good diet.

For long term success, I was obsessed with trying to find and research the best types of diets and foods to help, even meal timing and food combinations.  All that bullshit was making me take all my focus off my training.  I was worried about foods and specific diets I was training like a pussy.  I shifted my focus to training as opposed to diet, and it's paid off immensly.  As I said my diet is still great 80-90% of the time, but being in that restrictive phase a few years ago, I was borderline eating disorder and my training sucked, simple as that.  Don't get so hung up in a diet that you may not be able to eat forever.  If you have to think and focus so hard trying not to eat certain foods, it ain't gonna work in the long run.  Learn how to balance and learn how to train.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
Fast results are a great motivator.  But often, they are not sustainable results.  Inducing your body into ketosis does produce noticeable, quick results.  But many doctors feel it isn't a sustainable diet.  And in my observation, most people end up not finding it to be sutainable just as a practical matter.

I want to agree with this right here for the most part. 

I tried all the different kind of diets with success over my time, and I got some success, but there's no way I could maintain a close to zero carb diet day in day out.  I've learnt that keeping things simple, picking the right foods most of the time and training your ass off will get better results.  Now, if I want ice cream or a chocolate or a cake, I fucking have it becuase I have the training to back it up and a consistintly good diet.

For long term success, I was obsessed with trying to find and research the best types of diets and foods to help, even meal timing and food combinations.  All that bullshit was making me take all my focus off my training.  I was worried about foods and specific diets I was training like a pussy.  I shifted my focus to training as opposed to diet, and it's paid off immensly.  As I said my diet is still great 80-90% of the time, but being in that restrictive phase a few years ago, I was borderline eating disorder and my training sucked, simple as that.  Don't get so hung up in a diet that you may not be able to eat forever.  If you have to think and focus so hard trying not to eat certain foods, it ain't gonna work in the long run.  Learn how to balance and learn how to train.

You can't be too strict, you have to treat yourself to something once in awhile or you will lose it!  I think Wolfster sums it up best by saying "If I want ice cream or a chocolate cake, I fucking have it".

But you obviously can't overindulge and need to have things in moderation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on August 20, 2019, 06:27:23 PM
  I think Wolfster sums it up best by saying "If I want ice cream or a chocolate cake, I fucking have it".

That should be his personal text under his avatar!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2019, 06:40:02 PM
  I think Wolfster sums it up best by saying "If I want ice cream or a chocolate cake, I fucking have it".

That should be his personal text under his avatar!

It's already one of my favorite DTF quotes ever.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2019, 10:53:51 PM
Damn, it doesn't fit.  Too much text!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2019, 06:53:01 AM
Damn, it doesn't fit.  Too much text!

I'll immortalize it for ya.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 04:52:49 PM
 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 23, 2019, 06:14:28 PM
Another stop by in the hall at work today compliment, the guy ended up asking me for weight loss suggestions  :lol

I haven't pushed myself too hard this week, actually felt pretty tired, but did do workouts and healthy eating all week so I'm still doing real well, maybe not as hardcore as the last two weeks, but it's all good still.  I am about to pass another belt buckle on my new belt too... soon, very soon.

I think I may be going clothes shopping labor day weekend before all my vacationing begins.  I had to pull out super old shirts to wear, and todays for example... is too big too (although much better fitting than others). 

Word got back to my parents (via my siblings most likely) that they heard I am looking the best I have in 10 years.  Sounds legit and feels that way too. Let's make it the best shape in 20 years next.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on August 23, 2019, 06:27:29 PM
Dude that is awesome. Congrats man. That is an AWESOME feeling when people ask you for weight loss advice. And now you have plenty of reason to buy new band shirts in a couple weeks!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 23, 2019, 06:32:41 PM
And now you have plenty of reason to buy new band shirts in a couple weeks!  :lol

Most likely just the PP shirt.  I'm historically not a huge band tshirt guy, although I've been buying more as of late (I bought a super expensive IM shirt which kind of shocked me but I felt so compelled in the moment).  Maybe I will buy one though, we will see if I like any and if any band really sticks out to make me feel "compelled"  :lol 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2019, 07:36:35 PM
Merchbooth.net has a Seventh Wonder PPUSA exclusive. $30 tho.

Still worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on August 23, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
I bought a Tiara shirt last year and I kind of regret it because the album wasn't that hot
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 23, 2019, 08:24:38 PM
I bought a Tiara shirt last year and I kind of regret it because the album wasn't that hot

ugh my #1 last year  :lol but I have a man crush on Tommy.  Looking forward to confessing my idea to propose to him and that he's lucky he proposed to Kobra first
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2019, 04:59:47 AM
I bought a Tiara shirt last year and I kind of regret it because the album wasn't that hot

 :omg:  it was top-3 for me last year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2019, 05:01:49 AM
I bought a Tiara shirt last year and I kind of regret it because the album wasn't that hot

 :omg:  it was top-3 for me last year.

Yep. I have a Tiara shirt and it's one of my favourite t-shirts right now. This album is fantastic. Katt sucks. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on August 24, 2019, 05:15:56 AM
 :lol I prefer my Seventh Wonder to be more like Not An Angel or Alley Cat or A Day Away. Tiara was just soooo maudlin and plodding if I'm being honest; not remotely worth the wait... Different strokes. I was super disappointed. Still excited for their PPUSA set in a couple weeks. The shirt is still cool though. Nice purple scheme
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 24, 2019, 01:57:53 PM
I do think the album is a bit more plodding than I'd like to admit, but I think the production hurts the album a lot and if it sounded better, the plodding wouldn't be as bad at all I think. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 04:36:57 AM
Oh, I'm sorry, I was looking for the exercise thread, my mistake.  I'll be on way when then.


























 ;D Well done cram!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 25, 2019, 04:45:02 AM
You've been at DTF long enormous gut to know we derail threads all the time.

Marc... had a dream the other night that you were picking me up from the airport in Atlanta, and you were wearing a suit that was about 17 sizes too big. You were looking to king like you'd lost a little TOO much weight. Can't wait to pay you my own compliments in a couple weeks.

And we are hitting test gym together.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: sylvan on August 25, 2019, 06:17:19 AM
You've been at DTF long enormous gut to know we derail threads all the time.

What an appropriate thread for such an epic autocorrect  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
You've been at DTF long enormous gut to know we derail threads all the time.

Marc... had a dream the other night that you were picking me up from the airport in Atlanta, and you were wearing a suit that was about 17 sizes too big. You were looking to king like you'd lost a little TOO much weight. Can't wait to pay you my own compliments in a couple weeks.

And we are hitting test gym together.

 :rollin

I don't know how I feel about being in your dreams

also, back to the thread, down another belt buckle but in my drunkenness last night and being hungry, I cheated (or rewarded myself) with taco bell since it was next to my hotel and open.  Well I had only eaten a 240 calorie light sandwich from wawa before that so it's not like I overindulged for the day, just one very bad meal.  Oh well, time to hit the bike now that I'm home.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on August 25, 2019, 10:31:41 AM
Hell, you gotta reward yourself occasionally. Plus you were already drunk! I'm fighting over a small unintended hangover from last night and I'll be lucky if I get out for a walk today  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 03:05:28 PM
You've been at DTF long enormous gut to know we derail threads all the time.

Marc... had a dream the other night that you were picking me up from the airport in Atlanta, and you were wearing a suit that was about 17 sizes too big. You were looking to king like you'd lost a little TOO much weight. Can't wait to pay you my own compliments in a couple weeks.

And we are hitting test gym together.

 :rollin

I don't know how I feel about being in your dreams

also, back to the thread, down another belt buckle but in my drunkenness last night and being hungry, I cheated (or rewarded myself) with taco bell since it was next to my hotel and open.  Well I had only eaten a 240 calorie light sandwich from wawa before that so it's not like I overindulged for the day, just one very bad meal.  Oh well, time to hit the bike now that I'm home.

If your daily intake for the day is say 2500 calories and you ate only a 240 calorie sandwich, but gorged on a 2000 calorie Taco Bell meal, you are still in a calorie deficit for the day, or close to maintenance as I always over estimate take out nutritional info.

People focus way too much on the type of food and what they class as a bad meal as opposed to the calorie content and the numbers. Yes, it's easier and more foolproof just sticking to good food if you don't want to go through the work, but if you can do the numbers you can make anything work.  I guess I'm referring to IIFYM really, just a bit simpler looking at calories instead.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2019, 03:57:27 PM
I boozed last night so I had way more calories than just that.  Vodka clubs though, so they aren't too bad but still.  It's not the end of the world having one shit meal, but definitely the first time I've done that in awhile.  I don't know if it was from the alcohol or maybe just from not haven eaten out much lately, but those were the best Chalupas I've ever had.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on August 25, 2019, 05:42:32 PM
Drunk fast food is the best tasting food ever. Fact.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: axeman90210 on August 25, 2019, 08:47:46 PM
Indeed. The dive bar in I used to go to sometimes has a McDonald's next door and I have capped many a drunken evening with a bunch of McNuggets.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:13:29 AM
I boozed last night so I had way more calories than just that.  Vodka clubs though, so they aren't too bad but still.  It's not the end of the world having one shit meal, but definitely the first time I've done that in awhile.  I don't know if it was from the alcohol or maybe just from not haven eaten out much lately, but those were the best Chalupas I've ever had.  :lol

Best thing is to forget about it and move on.  Don't dwell or feel guilty, we are human and we need days like this. 

Speaking of good food, I just had a large Maccas Angus meal with a cheesburger, ice cream and shake for dinner and not even mad.  At the gym though beforehand I did legs with heavy deads, squats and leg press and a 5km run so it's all good!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 06, 2019, 09:36:47 AM
Trail Half Marathon tomorrow. I've actually not really trained much at all for this one....the furthest distance I've ran at once since my last Half in March has been 4.5 Miles. I'm not too concerned about it other than the fact that I'm about 10lbs above playing weight. Not looking to break any personal best times at my age these days so, I'll just enjoy the scenic run through the river lands where the race is at. Gonna be a beautiful morning for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 06, 2019, 10:36:11 AM
There's trail run (not marathon but 13.5 and 33 km runs) in my city in two weeks and I've been thinking about it (never been to any so far) but I'm in so bad shape I don't know if I could even do 13.5 km :lol
I've been in lifting weight last few weeks again and my student gym is opening on Monday (yay!). I've accumulated quite a lot fat during summer so working on losing some of it now. I'm biggest I've ever been (90 kg or 200 lbs) but it doesn't show because I'm pretty tall (191 cm
or 6'3"). Already lost 3 kgs in last 2 weeks with intermittent fasting, planning to go down a few more kgs and then start lifting heavier (especially bench, deadlift and squat) and working on muscle mass.
But I'd really like to do a marathon some day and will definitely do some runs next spring/summer.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 06, 2019, 12:17:31 PM
But I'd really like to do a marathon some day and will definitely do some runs next spring/summer.

I've only done (2) Full Marathons....have done countless Halve's....but I can tell you despite the Full's being demanding and tough....the sense of accomplishment when you're done is what it's all about. I've made a deal with myself to run a full every (5) years. Last one I did was my 40th BDay....43 now, so I have a couple years.

I enjoy running. Especially trail runs. I do it for mental health these days more than the physical benefit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 06, 2019, 01:00:03 PM
But I'd really like to do a marathon some day and will definitely do some runs next spring/summer.

I've only done (2) Full Marathons....have done countless Halve's....but I can tell you despite the Full's being demanding and tough....the sense of accomplishment when you're done is what it's all about. I've made a deal with myself to run a full every (5) years. Last one I did was my 40th BDay....43 now, so I have a couple years.

I enjoy running. Especially trail runs. I do it for mental health these days more than the physical benefit.
Yeah, I can imagine feeling great even after finishing that 13.5 or half marathon and that's where I want to start.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 07, 2019, 06:02:06 AM
First time ever I'm pulling the plug on race day. Been battling a bit of a tweaked back and woke up this morning to go run this race and it's barking big time. Think I'm doing the right thing by listening to my body but it's such a puss move.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 07, 2019, 07:01:01 AM
First time ever I'm pulling the plug on race day. Been battling a bit of a tweaked back and woke up this morning to go run this race and it's barking big time. Think I'm doing the right thing by listening to my body but it's such a puss move.

Exercise is about building your body, not your ego.  No such thing as a puss move.

And at our age, all the more important to be smart than to be proud.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 07, 2019, 07:34:05 AM
First time ever I'm pulling the plug on race day. Been battling a bit of a tweaked back and woke up this morning to go run this race and it's barking big time. Think I'm doing the right thing by listening to my body but it's such a puss move.

Exercise is about building your body, not your ego.  No such thing as a puss move.

And at our age, all the more important to be smart than to be proud.

Yeah....you’re right Chad and that’s why I made the choice. Believe me....it was a battle with my ego and pride.

In years past I’ve been able to get away with ‘winging’ these half marathons on minimal training due to how much I was running in general. But as I walked around the kitchen this morning getting ready for the race I couldn’t ignore how my back felt. I know it was the right call.....just have never made that call before so I’m feeling the hit to my pride at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on September 07, 2019, 01:55:09 PM
Got to take care of yourself first, nothing wrong with pulling out

Havent joined Chad in the gym the last two days, but I'm averaging 19k steps a day for progpower.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 07, 2019, 02:41:08 PM


Exercise is about building your body, not your ego.  No such thing as a puss move.

And at our age, all the more important to be smart than to be proud.

Amen to that.  My sciatica has been bugging me a little this summer, but I recently lost like 10 lbs and it feels mostly better, and now I am trying to get back into lifting a little after a few months away from it.  And of course when I go to the gym, there are always guys there lifting small cities to get as ripped as possible, which can sometimes make you wanna lift to get strong like that, but you have to be realistic.  At 46, my goal is to just stay trim and healthy, so I have no problem putting my ego aside and doing more reps with very little weight.
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Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2019, 04:25:41 AM
My Sunday morning run was 8km this morning.  Best time yet too (for me).  Felt pretty strong.
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Post by: goo-goo on September 08, 2019, 12:52:57 PM
What’s a good pair of bluetooth in ear headphones for running? I have the Jaybirds X4 but they are too short. I’ve tried the Bose Soundsport but they let a lot of the ambient noise in.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on September 08, 2019, 01:27:00 PM
What’s a good pair of bluetooth in ear headphones for running? I have the Jaybirds X4 but they are too short. I’ve tried the Bose Soundsport but they let a lot of the ambient noise in.


I've had the same Plantronics Backbeat FIT for over three years now and they're great. Very durable, comfortable and the battery holds a charge really well.


https://pl.factoryoutletstore.com/cat/59933-498517/Plantronics-Backbeat-FIT.html?cid=296842&chid=4272&promo_code=5OFFPROMO&gclid=CjwKCAjwzdLrBRBiEiwAEHrAYlYyqEJIs61K0PjgEwQXYxUyX_lGrsUoctVHSxOaWi8pOzm1d-IdjxoCCUsQAvD_BwE
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Post by: H2 on September 09, 2019, 01:09:07 PM
I got these and they are just fine: https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Headphones-Cancelling-Earphones-Waterproof/dp/B07KR62YBD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=headphones&qid=1568055690&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNVBYOU83NkJDQlNKJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODU4NzAyMkJQTFRWSUE5Q0lSUSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODQ4MjQ3MlFaVDNUWDNYNjVEQiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=




Keto still going well. Definitely feeling that flat/small/weak feeling from being in a low-carb calorie deficit for a while. I know it's purely mental (and a quick search reveals that lots of people experience this with cutting) and I know I just need to keep calm and keep going. Haven't lost strength, went down from 33 to 30 pants, so I know I'm doing just fine. But dang if I don't superficially feel that I'm doing something wrong. Goal is 10% body fat and I'm gonna keep on it (suspect that will be around 140 lb and 28 pants). Just a few more months really.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2019, 03:57:38 AM
Keto still going well. Definitely feeling that flat/small/weak feeling from being in a low-carb calorie deficit for a while. I know it's purely mental (and a quick search reveals that lots of people experience this with cutting) and I know I just need to keep calm and keep going. Haven't lost strength, went down from 33 to 30 pants, so I know I'm doing just fine. But dang if I don't superficially feel that I'm doing something wrong. Goal is 10% body fat and I'm gonna keep on it (suspect that will be around 140 lb and 28 pants). Just a few more months really.

Be very careful.  I've been in this state long term with devestating results.  Went so far backwards it wasn't funny.  If you haven't lost strength though, that's positive.  Pay very very close attention to your strength and gym performance though.  As soon as you start to feel like you are losing momentum and strength in the gym, change it up.  It's doing more harm than good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on September 16, 2019, 10:09:59 AM
Keto still going well. Definitely feeling that flat/small/weak feeling from being in a low-carb calorie deficit for a while. I know it's purely mental (and a quick search reveals that lots of people experience this with cutting) and I know I just need to keep calm and keep going. Haven't lost strength, went down from 33 to 30 pants, so I know I'm doing just fine. But dang if I don't superficially feel that I'm doing something wrong. Goal is 10% body fat and I'm gonna keep on it (suspect that will be around 140 lb and 28 pants). Just a few more months really.

Be very careful.  I've been in this state long term with devestating results.  Went so far backwards it wasn't funny.  If you haven't lost strength though, that's positive.  Pay very very close attention to your strength and gym performance though.  As soon as you start to feel like you are losing momentum and strength in the gym, change it up.  It's doing more harm than good.
I'll be careful. "You'll be dead!"

Nah, I'm OK overall. Thanks for the warning. I'm making it sound worse then it is. I know what you're talking about though. Previously when I've cut without lifting, I've had gnarly results as well. But my strength has been just fine, 30 lbs later. (I've dropped from 185 to 155 over the past year. Maybe I'll put a picture up when I'm done.)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on September 17, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
Haven't lifted any weights in awhile since I seem to keep hurting myself, my finger almost breaking in the babymetal moshpit the other night being the latest cause.  However, the rest of my body was well enough to hit the bike hard today, best I've done since my vacation started.  Diet took a small hit in Atlanta and Aruba, but mostly not that bad surprisingly.  I'm back on my oatmeal lunches and light dinners though since I've been back home.  Next week is Vegas, I think I am going to hit up a buffet there and have at least that one reward meal.  It might be hard to keep it to only one reward meal though, we shall see.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 17, 2019, 06:24:57 PM
I was 'off' last week because of the bug I contracted at the end of my vacation.  Now that I'm over it, mrs.jingle is sick, and I've had to pick up some slack around here (taking jingle.son back to school) so I'm not sure if I'll get back into my routine for a few more days.

Le sigh.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on September 17, 2019, 06:29:24 PM
Your wife got the progpower bug? damn
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 17, 2019, 06:53:43 PM
Thankfully, something different ... so she couldn't blame it on me.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Snow Dog on September 17, 2019, 09:09:06 PM
Following my last big running race last December (CIM in Sacramento), I fell off the wagon hardcore.  Most of it was due to awaiting the arrival of my firstborn and taking care of him after his birth.  I had a couple races, but wasn't regularly running and definitely wasn't hitting the gym.  So it wasn't a surprise to me when I discovered that my running speed, endurance, and strength had all tanked.

Over the last month, though, I've been bit by the bug again.  I've got a half marathon in less than a month, and I just signed up for the Redding Marathon in January next year.  Might also run another half marathon in Bend with friends in November.  I'm still inconsistent with my weight training, but I've been running more regularly for the past month and I'm finally starting to feel like my old self again.  It definitely helps having some events to look forward to so that I stay consistently active and motivated.



Sorry to hear about your back forcing you to the sidelines, gmiller.  That definitely sucks...
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Post by: gmillerdrake on September 18, 2019, 07:45:05 AM
Sorry to hear about your back forcing you to the sidelines, gmiller.  That definitely sucks...

Thanks. I haven't ran in three weeks now. I've played a couple hockey games but no running. Just resting it. It's one of those weird things where it doesn't really 'hurt' but a random move or something will send a shooting surge of pain every now and then. I have an 8 mile trail run on 10/26 so I was going to start back up again towards the end of this week.

That's quite a schedule of races you have lined up! That's one way to get back into the swing of things  :lol 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on September 28, 2019, 09:14:08 AM
I rewarded myself a bit too much in vegas, enough to say I definitely cheated.  Ate 3 buffets, late night white castle, and a few 4am breakfasts  :lol My finger is still busted so I still can't lift weights and I haven't rode my bike since getting home.  I do plan on getting right back into my diet/exercise habits, but honestly, it may not start until tomorrow or Monday as I adjust back into normal work life.  As much as that sucks, the benefit is getting back onto a normal schedule which helps me keep my exercise habits. 

I was chatting with a girl working in a shop in CA near Death Valley.  She told me I looked really good and could probably get any girl I wanted just by saying hi.  That was not only really nice thing to say, being a cute young girl herself, it was definitely a nice confidence boost and motivation to keep working hard.  Also, it's totally not true since I've spoke to many girls and none seemed too interested  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 28, 2019, 09:30:38 AM
Did you immediately say ‘hi’ to her after she told you that? :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on September 28, 2019, 11:17:07 AM
Did you immediately say ‘hi’ to her after she told you that? :lol

 :lol no, if this was not a stop in the middle of no where I would have tried since she was really cute, but there was no point.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Did you immediately say ‘hi’ to her after she told you that? :lol

Beat me to it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on September 28, 2019, 04:31:08 PM
You guys ever get this thing where you get into one dimension of exercise so much that you don't wanna do the other stuff? After building up my mileage to about an hour a session, all I wanna do is run, and lifting sounds like so much of a chore. I haven't lifted for like a week even though I know I should! How do you guys manage a balance?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2019, 04:38:51 AM
Can't say I've ever been there.  I love my lifting (with weights or just body weight), along with HIIT and steady state cardio.  Running doesn't excite me at all, unless it's sprints/HIIT.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2019, 05:48:53 AM
You guys ever get this thing where you get into one dimension of exercise so much that you don't wanna do the other stuff? After building up my mileage to about an hour a session, all I wanna do is run, and lifting sounds like so much of a chore. I haven't lifted for like a week even though I know I should! How do you guys manage a balance?

Like Chad, I can't say I've ever had that.  I'm loving running more and more and went for my Sunday morning long run which cleared my head after my bad week.  It's amazing how a good long run outside can soothe the soul and kind of reset your mood and thinking.  However, I love hitting the weights and do religiously 5 times a week.

I think you just need to make time for both.  And really tell yourself that cutting back lifting and focusing more on running isn't going to be that beneficial for your body composition over time one would think, especially constant long steady runs.  I think you need to change your program in teh gym. If you've been doing strength do some more higher rep, crossfit style stuff.  Or vice versa.  Or if you've just been doing a set of 8 reps and resting and repeat, aim for maybe a strength program or something new to excite you again and get some progress back in the gym to make you interested again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on September 29, 2019, 08:26:32 AM
You guys ever get this thing where you get into one dimension of exercise so much that you don't wanna do the other stuff? After building up my mileage to about an hour a session, all I wanna do is run, and lifting sounds like so much of a chore. I haven't lifted for like a week even though I know I should! How do you guys manage a balance?

Like Chad, I can't say I've ever had that.  I'm loving running more and more and went for my Sunday morning long run which cleared my head after my bad week.  It's amazing how a good long run outside can soothe the soul and kind of reset your mood and thinking.  However, I love hitting the weights and do religiously 5 times a week.

I think you just need to make time for both.  And really tell yourself that cutting back lifting and focusing more on running isn't going to be that beneficial for your body composition over time one would think, especially constant long steady runs.  I think you need to change your program in teh gym. If you've been doing strength do some more higher rep, crossfit style stuff.  Or vice versa.  Or if you've just been doing a set of 8 reps and resting and repeat, aim for maybe a strength program or something new to excite you again and get some progress back in the gym to make you interested again.
Thanks man. Hear you on the body composition thing. Dang. I've been doing Wendler's 5/3/1 for Beginners for some time now. I did get good results on a cut a few years ago while running that program. Do you have any recommendations for new programs?
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2019, 03:00:21 PM
You guys ever get this thing where you get into one dimension of exercise so much that you don't wanna do the other stuff? After building up my mileage to about an hour a session, all I wanna do is run, and lifting sounds like so much of a chore. I haven't lifted for like a week even though I know I should! How do you guys manage a balance?

Like Chad, I can't say I've ever had that.  I'm loving running more and more and went for my Sunday morning long run which cleared my head after my bad week.  It's amazing how a good long run outside can soothe the soul and kind of reset your mood and thinking.  However, I love hitting the weights and do religiously 5 times a week.

I think you just need to make time for both.  And really tell yourself that cutting back lifting and focusing more on running isn't going to be that beneficial for your body composition over time one would think, especially constant long steady runs.  I think you need to change your program in teh gym. If you've been doing strength do some more higher rep, crossfit style stuff.  Or vice versa.  Or if you've just been doing a set of 8 reps and resting and repeat, aim for maybe a strength program or something new to excite you again and get some progress back in the gym to make you interested again.
Thanks man. Hear you on the body composition thing. Dang. I've been doing Wendler's 5/3/1 for Beginners for some time now. I did get good results on a cut a few years ago while running that program. Do you have any recommendations for new programs?

The funny thing is mate, I don't follow programs.  I find taking programs in and trying to follow them at the gym distracting and in the end I don't get the most out of my workout.  I do look up new exercises and ideas all the time but don't follow a program per se.  It's all pretty intuitive and I just like to get in and go hard.

 When ai get stuck I'll just change things up and add supersets, dropsets just to push myself.  I've been trying to up my fitness lately so I've been adding in core work or things like burpees inbetween sets to keep the heart rate up but still aim for pushing good weight.  I'm pretty damn random actually.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on October 01, 2019, 03:15:17 PM
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I think you need to change your program in teh gym.
Do you have any recommendations for new programs?
The funny thing is mate, I don't follow programs.
So either (A) you're saying "pick a program" and "don't pick a program and do random stuff", or (B) you're saying "pick a program but don't do as I do, which is a bunch of random stuff".

If (A): does not compute
If (B): OK, so what programs would you recommend?
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Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 03:36:38 PM
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I think you need to change your program in teh gym.
Do you have any recommendations for new programs?
The funny thing is mate, I don't follow programs.
So either (A) you're saying "pick a program" and "don't pick a program and do random stuff", or (B) you're saying "pick a program but don't do as I do, which is a bunch of random stuff".

If (A): does not compute
If (B): OK, so what programs would you recommend?

I'm just saying a large majority of people find it better and will stick something out if they have a program but personally I don't, but I don't have the problem you have at the moment in regards to motivation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on October 01, 2019, 03:41:46 PM
I've never been a program or public gym person.  I just like to do my own thing and seeing success in that is motivation for me. 

Yesterday was my first day back on my 1k calorie diet plan and evening bike ride.  I thought it was be much harder than it was and that was motivation for me to keep at it.  Like maybe my body has adjusted enough that even though I went a bit wild with eating on vacation, I could still cut back without feeling like I was starving myself.

However, my finger is almost fully healed and I lifted some servers at work today with no issue but I don't want to risk it before traveling again, so my plan is not to touch weights until next week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 05:17:45 PM
I've never been a program or public gym person.  I just like to do my own thing and seeing success in that is motivation for me. 

Yesterday was my first day back on my 1k calorie diet plan and evening bike ride.  I thought it was be much harder than it was and that was motivation for me to keep at it.  Like maybe my body has adjusted enough that even though I went a bit wild with eating on vacation, I could still cut back without feeling like I was starving myself.

However, my finger is almost fully healed and I lifted some servers at work today with no issue but I don't want to risk it before traveling again, so my plan is not to touch weights until next week.

How long will you be on 1000 calories a day? That's dangerously low.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 01, 2019, 05:28:33 PM
Two more days, then I travel for work where I'm likely upping that quite a bit and will need it as it's going to be a super busy trip.  Then I'll go back down to 1k.

Essentially have been on that diet for 3 months before September and traveling.  Going to try to stick with it for October and November before the holidays.  Usually the weekends I lax a bit more, the week is easy to maintain.  I shredded ~30lbs this summer over 4 months (the first month I dieted but not so extreme nor were my workouts as extreme).  I'm looking to lose another 20lbs. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 07:02:19 PM
Two more days, then I travel for work where I'm likely upping that quite a bit and will need it as it's going to be a super busy trip.  Then I'll go back down to 1k.

Essentially have been on that diet for 3 months before September and traveling.  Going to try to stick with it for October and November before the holidays.  Usually the weekends I lax a bit more, the week is easy to maintain.  I shredded ~30lbs this summer over 4 months (the first month I dieted but not so extreme nor were my workouts as extreme).  I'm looking to lose another 20lbs.

Nice mate, well done.  I like the idea of calorie cycling.  Do that myself where I try and go lower calorie through the week and a tad higher on the weekends.  Gives more flexibility and opens up a lot more options.  I went that low for a while and did suffer consequences, but if you are able to break it up with some higher calorie days and refeeds if you will, you can get great benefits.
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Post by: red barchetta on October 14, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
Hello everyone, I ran as much as possible during the summer and now it's even a better time for me as the weather is cooling down.  i did 2 half marathon this summer, my best one in 1h 56 minutes.  I go to the boxing gym once a week and the CrossFit gym once a week.  As the very cold weather will get here, I will be running less and even no more outside so I will do it on a threadmill but I will switch some of my activities for a good swimming time.  I've had no major injuries during the past 6 months but I just can't do what I used to do.  At 58, it was a hard time for me during spring and a good part of the summer.  It's hard to accept that I'm slower, can't run as far whenever I would like to.  The recovery takes a longer time.  I had lost some of my motivation to run because I just felt old from time to time like I was really trying but couldn't get the time for the same distance I use to.  So that something I will have to deal with and content myself for what I will do.  Better than nothing.  Oh I can still be fast but the batteries are going down much faster if I do not pace myself properly.  I kind of notice some changes a couple of years ago, getting some little injuries and irritating muscles, longer time to recover.  But this year was showing more clearly.  So, the only thing to do is to not back down and keep moving.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2019, 05:51:12 AM
I hope I'm still regularly active at 58!  Good on ya RB  :tup

I'm in the final week (12) of Athlean-X... though in reality I had some off weeks and delays that probably put me 14 or 15 weeks in to this thing.  I'm feeling some pretty good gains.  Scale says virtually no change (in weight, or BF%), but the mirror (and 'test' result*) doesn't lie.  The scale I've had for 10+ years is shit.  Yeah, yeah, I know almost all of the BF measurements are HIGHLY inaccurate, but as a test to see how off it was, I stepped on the scale for my weekly weigh in (just in my gitch), and got a result of 182.8lbs, and 21.6% BF (ergo 143.3lbs of lean mass).  I put my jeans and shirt on, stepped back on, and while 3lbs heavier, the BF magically jumped to 22.6%.  Didn't know jeans would gain me 0.7lbs of lean mass!  So, I ordered a new one for $40 from Amazon... hopefully the technology is a little bit better.

*The monthly test is a '400 Challenge' - 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats, and 100 inverted rows.  When I started this, it was about 17.5 minutes to get thru that.  Got it down to 11:34 yesterday.

Final challenge test looks killer - 12 rounds / 10 reps of the following four moves: burpee, db squat/swing, inverted row, Russian v-up.

Gonna finish the month doing some lifting and SS cardio, then start a round of p90x (somewhat modified) at the beginning of November.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2019, 04:19:26 PM
Athlean X? I love Jeff's youtube videos, he know his stuff.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2019, 07:00:51 PM
Athlean X? I love Jeff's youtube videos, he know his stuff.

Yeah, I've been following him for a little over a year now. Learned so much from him Jeff Nippard is another rock star trainer with killer advice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on October 16, 2019, 01:20:46 PM
Well, I finished my keto project, I decided. I wanted to drop from 150 to 140 but am deciding against it. I fit into my 30s again just fine. So, done with keto and eating more again, and feeling more pumped and athletic than while on the cut (which is great). After going through a keto diet, I would say I had a good experience up until a point. Sometime in the last month or so, I found that I had more emotional ups and downs than usually, and I was feeling weaker and less athletic in general. But I would say keto was beneficial for that first month or two.

Upping the workout intensity by starting Insanity again to compensate for the added food so I don't just gain everything back. Dang I love Insanity. I've done it 3 times in the past and always am happy with the results, and it's so much fun. And so doable, doesn't take much time at all. So I'm excited to start that up again. I'm letting myself eat plentifully to really give it my all during the workouts.

After that...IDK? Let's see, for lifting, I've run Starting Strength, Stronglifts, and 5/3/1 in several variations and achieved a "proficient" level of strength according to the ExRx strength standards. I know how that goes. For cardio, I've done C25K and B210K. I did two 5Ks and a mud-run last year. And I've done P90X and Insanity. After I finish up Insanity this time around, I think I might just chill by taking random classes at my university. It might be fun to focus on more social workouts. Then again, I do have dreams of doing a 10K, half marathon, and full marathon at some point. A triathlon sounds like a lofty aspiration but I know nothing about biking or swimming.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2019, 01:45:20 PM
This isn't the first time I've heard that Keto can be beneficial for short periods of time.  I watched the Buff Dudes review of it, and everything I've read/watched suggests that while it can have some short-term positive effects related to burning fat, it just isn't sustainable.  Glad it worked for you for the time that it did.  I've actually put a bit of thought into trying it for a cut come the end of winter, but it would be extra difficult since I'd be the only person in the house on that kind of nutrition plan.

Insanity ... the most appropriately named program out there.  I've twice taken a kick at it, but never gotten past the 2nd week of month 2 before I tap out.  Damn that's a tough program.  Mind you, I was doing it in the summertime, and outside in the 25C heat at times for an ... extra ... sweat.  :lolpalm.  Like you don't sweat enough with that program!
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Post by: cramx3 on October 16, 2019, 01:55:19 PM
Good stuff Jingle Barchetta and H2.

I've been in a slump.  Thought Id get right back into check this week but I must have caught a bug in DC and was feeling really crappy the last couple days.  It seems I just haven't been 100% in awhile.  I did walk 20k steps a day over the weekend so that's not bad, but I haven't lifted weights in well over a month now and have hardly hit the bike in that period either, my diet took a bit of a back seat as well although I haven't gone completley off the rocks, just that it hasn't been super tight.  Sadly, 2/3 of the next weeks will be tough since im traveling for work again then we get close to the holidays and I'm making excuses now but I fell behind big time lately and if I can maintain my weight the next few weeks then I'll be in good position to get back into things early November and hopefully close off the year strong.
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Post by: axeman90210 on October 16, 2019, 02:18:48 PM
Oh man, Insanity. I loved Thursdays so much by the second month for those stretch/recovery days.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 16, 2019, 05:27:07 PM
Got a pull up bar for one of the door ways. Where has this thing been all my life, I love it  :heart


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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2019, 07:19:17 PM
Man... I don’t know how much I could trust a pull-up bar like that. I used to have one of the ‘hook’ kind to mount in a framed doorway.  Now I have one that’s mounted into my ceiling joist.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on October 16, 2019, 10:25:46 PM
I've fallen using a pressure mounted pull up bar, and the door frame hook style. I have a power rack with a pull up bar attached, so it's a non issue for me now, but i won't ever use one of those bars again. To be fair, though, my door mounted bars were cheap. And i don't just mean inexpensive.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 17, 2019, 04:27:46 AM
They can't be seen in the pic, but there are nubs that are drilled into the wall that the bar mounts over, so its feeling pretty stable. I first tried just pressure mounting, but it felt uneasy, so I went up to a stronger method. I still take it cautiously when using it though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2019, 05:17:16 AM
I've fallen using a pressure mounted pull up bar, and the door frame hook style. I have a power rack with a pull up bar attached, so it's a non issue for me now, but i won't ever use one of those bars again. To be fair, though, my door mounted bars were cheap. And i don't just mean inexpensive.

I had one of these for years, and never once felt like it was going to give.  My issue with it was that it never allowed me to extend my legs straight.  Hell, at the bottom end of a pullup, my knees were almost touching the floor.

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Now I have this, which is stable as fuck

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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 17, 2019, 06:03:19 AM
That looks way better. I'll see how well this current one works out and maybe upgrade later down the line.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2019, 08:12:30 AM
Oh man, Insanity. I loved Thursdays so much by the second month for those stretch/recovery days.

I've done INSANITY three times all the way through. The last time I did it I completed it in January of 2018 and swore I'd never do it again. It's just SO hard on your body. I'll go back to individual workouts now and again but I don't see myself doing the entire (60) day circuit again ever.

But...I did pick up Insanity MAX. Those are only half hour workouts and are a tad less stressful. I haven't started the full gambit yet, only been doing a workout here or there but I've been trying to motivate myself to do the program the way it's intended.
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Post by: H2 on October 17, 2019, 01:56:14 PM
Oh man, Insanity. I loved Thursdays so much by the second month for those stretch/recovery days.

I've done INSANITY three times all the way through. The last time I did it I completed it in January of 2018 and swore I'd never do it again. It's just SO hard on your body. I'll go back to individual workouts now and again but I don't see myself doing the entire (60) day circuit again ever.
I am curious about this criticism of Insanity. Would you say it's outright bad for your health, or that it's just really difficult?
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
Oh man, Insanity. I loved Thursdays so much by the second month for those stretch/recovery days.

I've done INSANITY three times all the way through. The last time I did it I completed it in January of 2018 and swore I'd never do it again. It's just SO hard on your body. I'll go back to individual workouts now and again but I don't see myself doing the entire (60) day circuit again ever.
I am curious about this criticism of Insanity. Would you say it's outright bad for your health, or that it's just really difficult?

I’d lean towards the ‘difficult’ description. It’s a lot of high impact movement in a small area. The jumping, squatting etc etc is very fast paced. It’s a heck of a workout but IMO it does take a toll.

I did (2) cycles pretty much back to back....it’s a (60)day schedule so in my case I probably over did it my last time doing it. I ached quite a bit bit had also done four months of it without missing more than a day or two.

The INSANITY Max I talked about seems to be a bit more manageable. It’s only a half hour workout at a time.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2019, 03:08:00 PM
Oh man, Insanity. I loved Thursdays so much by the second month for those stretch/recovery days.

I've done INSANITY three times all the way through. The last time I did it I completed it in January of 2018 and swore I'd never do it again. It's just SO hard on your body. I'll go back to individual workouts now and again but I don't see myself doing the entire (60) day circuit again ever.
I am curious about this criticism of Insanity. Would you say it's outright bad for your health, or that it's just really difficult?

It's insanely difficult.  I mean, even the fitness models can't keep up the pace of the program without taking additional breaks during the moves.  There's one disc, it's 18 minutes straight of HIIT movements (18 of them for 1 minute duration) - and iirc, that's in Phase 1.  Phase 2 is longer periods!

Whatever you do, make sure you have a good mat/soft surface because of the jumping.  Yeah, Gary and I are in our 40s, but even for youngins, it could/would be hell on the knees and ankles.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 17, 2019, 03:13:49 PM
I just don't see the point in sacrificing your joints, it seems unnecessary.  I feel the same way about marathon running.  Seems like you can get in great shape without putting your body into such pain.  That's just me.  I'm good with my bike rides  :lol which I'm happy to say I did last night for the first time in awhile.  Felt good and I plan on hitting it again tonight and Saturday but will be back on hiatus for another week.
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Post by: H2 on October 18, 2019, 10:29:47 AM
Oh man, Insanity. I loved Thursdays so much by the second month for those stretch/recovery days.

I've done INSANITY three times all the way through. The last time I did it I completed it in January of 2018 and swore I'd never do it again. It's just SO hard on your body. I'll go back to individual workouts now and again but I don't see myself doing the entire (60) day circuit again ever.
I am curious about this criticism of Insanity. Would you say it's outright bad for your health, or that it's just really difficult?

It's insanely difficult.  I mean, even the fitness models can't keep up the pace of the program without taking additional breaks during the moves.  There's one disc, it's 18 minutes straight of HIIT movements (18 of them for 1 minute duration) - and iirc, that's in Phase 1.  Phase 2 is longer periods!

Whatever you do, make sure you have a good mat/soft surface because of the jumping.  Yeah, Gary and I are in our 40s, but even for youngins, it could/would be hell on the knees and ankles.
I know what you're talking about -- the Pure Cardio disc. I find that workout the easiest of the lot and don't have too many issues except with the pushups and suicide jumps towards the end. I have the toughest time with Power and Resistance - power jumps are tough.

40s doesn't sound that old TBH. I'm 28 but feel 22. What do I have to look forward to?
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Post by: sylvan on October 18, 2019, 10:49:32 AM
I'm 28 but feel 22. What do I have to look forward to?

In about 2 years, crushing disappointment  :tup
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2019, 11:25:20 AM
Trust me, it's your 40s where it all changes.  Ask anyone, it's like a switch gets triggered on your birthday, and normal aches, pains, bumps, bruises etc that you'd recover from in a couple days or a week, will take weeks/months.  Or they just linger indefinitely.  I'm currently in the midst of a 4-week hip issue.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 18, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
I felt like the day I turned 30 I immediately had the same issues Jingle is saying, but I'm guessing at 40 it just gets another notch worse.

I'm 28 but feel 22. What do I have to look forward to?

In about 2 years, crushing disappointment  :tup

 :lol enjoy those two years of being young
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Post by: Stadler on October 18, 2019, 12:27:33 PM
Man... I don’t know how much I could trust a pull-up bar like that. I used to have one of the ‘hook’ kind to mount in a framed doorway.  Now I have one that’s mounted into my ceiling joist.

That to me looks like a clip from Ridiculousness waiting to happen.  :)
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Post by: The Walrus on October 18, 2019, 12:30:46 PM
I hope I don't suffer Oldmanitis when I turn 30 in 2021
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Post by: Stadler on October 18, 2019, 12:37:01 PM
Trust me, it's your 40s where it all changes.  Ask anyone, it's like a switch gets triggered on your birthday, and normal aches, pains, bumps, bruises etc that you'd recover from in a couple days or a week, will take weeks/months.  Or they just linger indefinitely.  I'm currently in the midst of a 4-week hip issue.

It was a little later for me, but this.   I have in the past five years (I'm 52) had debilitating issues with both shoulders (different issues).   I'm not ruling out surgery actually, on the left shoulder. 

But while I never did a program like Insanity, I always stayed active... until about 48 or so, and I just sort of lost the initiative.  So I imagine that has something to do with it.

By the way, Insanity; what was the result after the 60 days/cycle?  Where you in great shape?  Was it just weight loss?   I can't imagine doing that kind of cycle unless the payoff was something tangible. 
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 18, 2019, 12:54:43 PM
By the way, Insanity; what was the result after the 60 days/cycle?  Where you in great shape?  Was it just weight loss?   I can't imagine doing that kind of cycle unless the payoff was something tangible.

It was weight loss for me. I'm 43 and still in fairly good shape....especially when compared to my peers. I am way more active than most 30-40 year olds I know as far as exercise. I've just noticed over the past year-year and a half how much longer the aches and pains linger.

Another big change I'm dealing with is that.....in the past my running routine would help negate my poor nutritional choices. I had kind of a good little system going of eating basically what I wanted to and still had a 10 pound window of 160-170 that I'd linger around at. But now, It's more like a 175-185 window which has made me consider that my diet needs to be addressed because I simply can't maintain the exercise regiment I have historically kept. It's too demanding at the moment.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2019, 01:53:43 PM
By the way, Insanity; what was the result after the 60 days/cycle?  Where you in great shape?  Was it just weight loss?   I can't imagine doing that kind of cycle unless the payoff was something tangible.

Fat loss for me as well.  And it sure as shit helped with the cardiovascular endurance.  There is some muscle building, but it's mostly fat loss.  I felt it helped with my overall health.  I have a fairly low resting heart rate, I don't easily get winded or have any trouble with any every-day activity, blood pressure is fine yada yada.  My current and former GP routinely tell/told me that I'm an extremely boring patient.  Just the way I want it to be.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2019, 10:13:25 AM
First time in over a month that I lifted weights.  Definitely lost a bit of my ability but not as much as I expected (and it's not like I had a ton of ability here to begin with).  It's sadly amazing my pinky is still very very slightly hurt still from that babymetal show a month ago but definitely not bad enough to hold me back or to be any issue today.  I feel the best I've felt in awhile, no illness, no gout, no broken pinky, no excuses.
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Post by: H2 on October 20, 2019, 11:39:46 AM
I did Insanity in the past under three different conditions:

1) First real workout program ever. I decided I wanted to cut, so I kept cals around 1800-2000. I definitely got fit, and to this day I don't think I've every been so lean. Six pack and everything. Cardio through the roof. My strength was pretty low, though, but I gained it back quickly. I was around 22.

2) After lifting for a year and a half, I ran the program on a maintenance diet. I got pretty fit, my numbers on the fit test were better than they were the first time around, and I think I looked the best I ever did after I finished the program. Not the leanest, but this was my prime, I think. I was around 24.

3) After lifting a lot, and a lot, and gaining a bunch of weight and strength, I did Insanity on a cutting. I did lose a lot, but I didn't feel that I looked that great at the end. Granted, I was a little inconsistent and had sloppy days with my diet. I did lose a lot of weight and was able to fit into a lot of old clothes. Didn't quite make it back to where I was, however. I was 27.

4) Now, I'm basically where I was before (2). I'm trying to eat at maintenance. I hope I can get into the shape I was in at 24. That was awesome.
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Post by: red barchetta on October 20, 2019, 08:36:51 PM
I felt like the day I turned 30 I immediately had the same issues Jingle is saying, but I'm guessing at 40 it just gets another notch worse.

I'm 28 but feel 22. What do I have to look forward to?

In about 2 years, crushing disappointment  :tup

It's nice guys to read about your determination and some of your struggles in anyways.  But I can tell you that when I turned 50 it was the first time I really didn't like it.  Like I was thinking:  Ya, I'm really heading to the old ones now.  I do train with many guys and galls of any ages.  Of course, the ones in their 20's seem to have endless energy.  The guys in their 30's, they all notice that partying is not easy to recover when you train or run the day after.  The 40's look at me and wonder how I do it but they have no idea that I feel old from time to time and have to take a nap often in the afternoon to recover lol.  And the people of my age, they do what I do and probably from time to time are saying to themselves, What in the world am I here today?  But you know, I would not change a thing and don't change a thing.  Move and enjoy life and be happy about what you do because even if you do not finish among the best like you would like, you still finish ahead of how you would end up if you would do nothing. 
 :lol enjoy those two years of being young
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Post by: red barchetta on October 20, 2019, 08:40:39 PM
By the way, Insanity; what was the result after the 60 days/cycle?  Where you in great shape?  Was it just weight loss?   I can't imagine doing that kind of cycle unless the payoff was something tangible.

It was weight loss for me. I'm 43 and still in fairly good shape....especially when compared to my peers. I am way more active than most 30-40 year olds I know as far as exercise. I've just noticed over the past year-year and a half how much longer the aches and pains linger.

Another big change I'm dealing with is that.....in the past my running routine would help negate my poor nutritional choices. I had kind of a good little system going of eating basically what I wanted to and still had a 10 pound window of 160-170 that I'd linger around at. But now, It's more like a 175-185 window which has made me consider that my diet needs to be addressed because I simply can't maintain the exercise regiment I have historically kept. It's too demanding at the moment.

I understand you.  If I do not pay attention about what I eat and in my case I'm talking about way to much bread and pasta (my 2 favorites things), I can't get to my 160-165 weight.  You just can't eat whatever you want everyday and especially during the evening.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 22, 2019, 05:22:17 PM
Got an elliptical recently and at first I really loved it, but now have been running into issues with foot numbness while using it and then foot pain afterward.

This wasn't an issue when I was doing a max of 10mins at a time, but now my endurance is letting me go 20 mins and over and now I am having issues. The crazy thing is it is just my right foot. No issue at all with the left.
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Post by: red barchetta on October 22, 2019, 06:52:01 PM
It's nice guys to read about your determination and some of your struggles in anyways.  But I can tell you that when I turned 50 it was the first time I really didn't like it.  Like I was thinking:  Ya, I'm really heading to the old ones now.  I do train with many guys and galls of any ages.  Of course, the ones in their 20's seem to have endless energy.  The guys in their 30's, they all notice that partying is not easy to recover when you train or run the day after.  The 40's look at me and wonder how I do it but they have no idea that I feel old from time to time and have to take a nap often in the afternoon to recover lol.  And the people of my age, they do what I do and probably from time to time are saying to themselves, What in the world am I here today?  But you know, I would not change a thing and don't change a thing.  Move and enjoy life and be happy about what you do because even if you do not finish among the best like you would like, you still finish ahead of how you would end up if you would do nothing. 
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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 29, 2019, 10:02:25 AM
What do you guys like to do Nutrition wise?

For me I've been doing majority protein (Whey, beef, eggs or egg whites, lots of chicken and salmon as well)

Carbs wise I'm still trying to figure out. but I've been doing (Apples, bananas, carrots, salads and now oatmeal)

Not a lot of fats

I'm now finally starting to focus on nutrition just as much as the working out part.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 29, 2019, 10:10:36 AM
I'm now finally starting to focus on nutrition just as much as the working out part.

This is a MUST for me to do. I HAVE to figure this out. I simply can't eat the way I've been eating any longer. I NEED to craft a new approach.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 29, 2019, 10:16:56 AM
I'm no expert on nutrition, but I've been finding my oatmeal lunches to be so powerful in weight loss and in my life in general.  For one, I actually enjoy it so that makes it much easier to eat.  Second, it's a good carb, so if you want a balanced diet, getting some whole grains is a good way to go.  Also I add a banana to it, which gives me my fruit serving.  It helps with hunger cravings as well being high in fiber.  And lastly, it's super cheap.  Great for my wallet.  The big container of 1 minute oats is like 4 bucks and covers my lunches for a few weeks plus a banana a day is about 50 cents per day.  Comes out to around 12 bucks for 3 weeks of light lunches.

Having said that, it's so hard to keep a good diet working 70 hours while traveling for work and expensing all your meals.  I read a study recently about how being tired makes you crave higher calorie foods.  I definitely can attest to that study.  One more business trip next week, but this week I am staying in line and looking to get back into line after my next trip to end the year strong hopefully.  I got another compliment on my weight loss today from a vendor I hadn't seen in a couple months.  Good motivation to keep going even though I haven't been on top of my game.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on October 29, 2019, 10:29:37 AM
What do you guys like to do Nutrition wise?

Target macro mix around 40/30/30 (carb, fat, protein), but i cycle so much that my carbs usually end up closer to 50 and my fat lower. My on the bike fuel is almost pure carb.

Protein is mostly chicken and tons of Greek yogurt. And i mean tons. Breakfast is a banana pureed and mixed with plain greek yogurt and i eat 3 or 4 yogurt with cereal snacks during the day. I eat about 800g of the stuff each day.

My carbs are typically fruit sugar (apples and bananas mostly), salads and veggies (lots of asparagus, sprouts and broccoli) and some grains in the form of cereal i add to my yogurt. And I'll usually make a pizza on the weekend for the family. Also, i snack on frozen yogurt many nights during the week, and it's heavy carb mix.

Fats are from olive oil used in cooking and spoonfuls of peanut butter. On pizza weekends it tends to be higher, otherwise my fat intake is very low (<45g most days).
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Post by: SchecterShredder on October 29, 2019, 10:34:07 AM
Yeah, traveling for work would be hard on the diet. Workdays are the easiest for me since i don't bring my bank cards with me, so I'm limited to the lunch i bring. It really helps. I find that it's always the weekend that goes off the rails. Also, if i do a big ride (2+ hours) i find i always end up eating back every single burned calorie, and usually more. I'm trying to get that back on track.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2019, 10:39:52 AM
I bounce back and forth from being very regimented and strict (ie, weighing my food, tracking my macros religiously, inputting them to my goal), to simply eating intuitively, and trying to stay within a range.  jingle.family cooking routines don't lend themselves to easily to the former, so I just try to minimize my simple carbs and fats (fat shows up enough naturally), get as much lean protein as I can, and let the rest happen as it does.  I don't eat much junk - sometimes nothing in a week, sometimes once or twice I'll have something that resembles candy.  Once or twice a month I have a reward meal - wings & beer last week at the Sabres hockey game.

It seems to be working out well, but if I want to get down to single digit body-fat for my 50th (I got 2 years), I'll need to go back to being strict with my intake.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 29, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
I bounce back and forth from being very regimented and strict (ie, weighing my food, tracking my macros religiously, inputting them to my goal), to simply eating intuitively, and trying to stay within a range. 

This is me. I've had great stretches of time where I've done real good with diet and exercise. But, I've been extremely lax on my diet lately and have cut my exercise down a bit as well. This pesky lower back issue I've been having isn't really going away and it's annoying. I'm down to running twice a week and playing hockey on sunday nights.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on October 29, 2019, 10:51:48 AM
I don't weigh all my food, but I do weigh and measure high risk items like oils, peanut butter and cheese. And I do all the cooking in the family, so it's easy to just follow my own recipes each time. And I do log all my exercise and nutrition in Under Armor's MyFitnessPal  and Record apps. Win or lose, my food for the day gets logged. Christmas day each year is crazy when I look at it compared to any other day of the year. I easily end up eating over 4k calories that day lol. Basically 2 or more days worth of food.
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2019, 03:44:08 AM
I generally favour a higher protein and fat and lower carb diet.  No real reason, I just prefer and feel better on mainly proteins and fats.  I like those kinds of foods more too.  Meat, nuts, peanut butter, protein shakes and veggies.  My carbs not counting veggies would come when I eat things like ice cream and chocolate, which is basically only weekends.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 02, 2019, 05:35:12 AM
Shitty week... I got 3 really good lifting days in, no cardio, and finished it with 3 consecutive days off (not of my own choosing).  But, starting a cycle of p90x today - modified.  I've done it enough times to know what I like/don't like, and learned a lot since the last time I did it.  I'm modifying a handful of the moves, and gonna substitute the Plyo and Kenpo days (I never did like the latter all that much).  I'm torn on Yoga... really like it, and know I should do it... but it's 90 fucking minutes!
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Post by: ReaperKK on November 02, 2019, 06:31:56 AM
It's starting to get really cold here which is a bummer because it's tougher to do my runs outside, I hate running on a treadmill. Overall it's getting to be taht time of year where some additional pounds start creeping in.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on November 02, 2019, 08:13:40 AM
I started biking to work year round last year, and i was actually surprised how much i enjoyed the winter riding. I did cut back to only 3 or 4 days per week, but the cold wasn't really an issue. I invested a bit of coin in some decent cold weather gear, and had no issues whatsoever. Deep snow was a bigger problem than temperature.

Back when i used to run i still did a weekly 10k on the weekend during the winter. Trails look different, and everything seems quieter in the winter. It's almost serene. If you can keep your feet warm, that is.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2019, 03:13:07 AM
It's starting to get really cold here which is a bummer because it's tougher to do my runs outside, I hate running on a treadmill. Overall it's getting to be taht time of year where some additional pounds start creeping in.

Personally I much prefer running outside in winter than I do summer.
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Post by: ReaperKK on November 03, 2019, 05:26:14 AM
It's starting to get really cold here which is a bummer because it's tougher to do my runs outside, I hate running on a treadmill. Overall it's getting to be taht time of year where some additional pounds start creeping in.

Personally I much prefer running outside in winter than I do summer.

I do too but there comes a point where it's just too cold to run outside. The only time of day that I'm free to do my runs at is very early morning or at night.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2019, 05:42:09 AM
It's starting to get really cold here which is a bummer because it's tougher to do my runs outside, I hate running on a treadmill. Overall it's getting to be taht time of year where some additional pounds start creeping in.

Personally I much prefer running outside in winter than I do summer.

Your experience with "Winter" (if you can even really call it that) is far different than those of us in North America - even as far south as Kay is.

Did p90x routine 1 (back/chest .... push/pull) after dinner last night.  Bad idea.  Need to let that fuel digest before these routines.  Spent most of the routine feeling like I was gonna toss chunks, and for at least 20 minutes after I was done.  Killer workout though - ultimately did 200ish reps of various pushups; 50ish reps of various pullups; 80ish reps of various rows.
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Post by: The Walrus on November 03, 2019, 06:35:23 AM
Yesterday I had leg day for the first time in a few months and today I can't walk without looking like I have a mental condition.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 03, 2019, 08:55:20 AM
Biked 11 miles yesterday and then went wild in the mosh pit for Sabston last night. No broken bones and a great day of working out.  :yarr
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2019, 01:24:16 PM
You're right Chad.  I didn't really think of that.  I don't really get a winter.  It's starting to get hot for me now so doing a 5km run in my summer heat is a challenging task.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 08, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
Through my whole "get in shape" process the last 6 months, I hardly weighed myself.  Don't actually know what I started at (I have an idea, probably around 230lbs) and in September I weighed myself for the first time in years and was sitting at 200.  Since September my diet/work out routine had gotten way less strict.  I had lots of vacation and work travel which meant poorer eating and less opportunity to work out.  However, the last month I really got back into it more consistently. My bike rides went from 5 miles to 10 miles and now I hit 20 miles last weekend and followed up with three straight days of 18 miles this weekend.  My diet hasn't been as strict (I follow the 1k calorie diet a few days a week) but overall still pretty decent with eating overall healthy meals.  I haven't been sick and overall been feeling good.  Got on the scale today, 195 lbs.  Still working on this, I really want to get to 180lbs and it's going to be tough but I'm also OK with the idea of losing weight more slowly now.  I did great work for great results over the summer, but I'd rather work on a more sustainable approach.  Just the idea that my body was able to bike 20 miles felt great.  I know that's not much for the cyclists and spinners out there, but for me, that's a nice achievement.  I do go on another work trip this week so I expect a bit of a rough patch here but I feel good and motivated to continue into 2020 and hopefully have a nice summer body come my 1 year mark of "get in shape". 
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2019, 03:09:09 PM
Did a 8km run in 44:59 yesterday.  Really happy with that personally.  Getting better and faster all the time.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 08, 2019, 05:11:19 PM
 :metal

but also reminded me of

https://youtu.be/GDpmVUEjagg?t=59 (https://youtu.be/GDpmVUEjagg?t=59)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2019, 08:16:20 PM
Did a 8km run in 44:59 yesterday.  Really happy with that personally.  Getting better and faster all the time.

I absolutely hate running. Nothing bores me more. That's just me tho.

I did an Insanity workout today..didn't follow it religiously though. I took more breaks than just the 30 seconds they allot for - no need to go for 2 mins of high intensity when my heart rate is already at 170.
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Post by: Northern Lion on December 08, 2019, 10:08:23 PM
Reading this thread has been really inspiring guys!  I am currently very out of shape and overweight.  I used to work out all the time and run when I was younger, but becoming a husband, father and providing just took priority I guess.

Now I have a LOT of work to do.  I'm at 270lbs right now.  My ideal is about 190 but I'd be happy if I got down to 220 again.

Any pointers to get started?  I'll need to start slow otherwise I'll probably hurt myself.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 01:23:30 AM
See Chad, how you feel about running I feel about Insanity and all those types of programs.  Can't stand them.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 04:15:53 AM
Reading this thread has been really inspiring guys!  I am currently very out of shape and overweight.  I used to work out all the time and run when I was younger, but becoming a husband, father and providing just took priority I guess.

Now I have a LOT of work to do.  I'm at 270lbs right now.  My ideal is about 190 but I'd be happy if I got down to 220 again.

Any pointers to get started?  I'll need to start slow otherwise I'll probably hurt myself.

Don't think of the end goal or else it will seem too overwhelming.  Set small goals and think of everything one step at a time.  Step by step and you'll get there in the end.  Think about what you have to do for the current day to improve.

Starting slow is probably the best thing you can do.  Don't put pressure of a timeframe on yourself.  Give it time and work slow to start with.  Think about what you eat and even cut one thing out that you shouldn't be having to start with. Change one thing at a time and cut one thing at a time.  Drastic changes rarely work.

Start by simply walking perhaps and improve from there.  Remember, any activity you do is better than nothing.

Be true to yourself and don't lie to yourself.  Remember, it doesn'thappen overnight.  Good luck!

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Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2019, 05:55:41 AM
See Chad, how you feel about running I feel about Insanity and all those types of programs.  Can't stand them.

TASTESTM!!!

@ Northern Lion... some good advice from wolfking already.  Also, pay attention to your calories in.  You gained weight by consuming more than you're burning, now just do the opposite.  I hazard to guess you didn't track your calories as you gained weight, so "intuitive" eating is not likely going to help you shed your body fat.  Diligent tracking of caloric intake is usually pretty important in any fat-loss process.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on December 09, 2019, 07:30:59 AM
Reading this thread has been really inspiring guys!  I am currently very out of shape and overweight.  I used to work out all the time and run when I was younger, but becoming a husband, father and providing just took priority I guess.

Now I have a LOT of work to do.  I'm at 270lbs right now.  My ideal is about 190 but I'd be happy if I got down to 220 again.

Any pointers to get started?  I'll need to start slow otherwise I'll probably hurt myself.

Go download MyFitnessPal (it's free), and log your food diligently. It gets easier the more you use the app since it remembers the food you frequently eat and you can create meals and recipes for the foods you prepare most often. I log everyday, win or lose. Some people find it just discourages them to see a day where you've overeaten significantly, but I prefer to never wonder why I've lost or gained weight. I can just look in the trend on the app and clearly see the connection between my weight and my nutrition.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on December 09, 2019, 07:37:02 AM
Running rocks imo... throw on the music and just go. Especially out here in the country. In 5 minutes I can be out in the corn fields
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Lonk on December 09, 2019, 07:48:56 AM
Reading this thread has been really inspiring guys!  I am currently very out of shape and overweight.  I used to work out all the time and run when I was younger, but becoming a husband, father and providing just took priority I guess.

Now I have a LOT of work to do.  I'm at 270lbs right now.  My ideal is about 190 but I'd be happy if I got down to 220 again.

Any pointers to get started?  I'll need to start slow otherwise I'll probably hurt myself.

I think your food is the one thing you have the most control over. Adding more vegetables to your meals and eliminating fried food is a good way to start (I don't know if these apply to you but just a suggestion). Maybe buy some sort of equipment you can use at home and doesn't take a lot of space. I've seen people use this kind (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marcy-Cardio-Mini-Cycle-Exercise-Bike-NS-909/17272594?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227014563384&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40331827592&wl4=pla-78293995232&wl5=9004173&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=17272594&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6Y2Co-eo5gIVCYizCh2yuA3DEAQYBSABEgIRi_D_BwE) for physical theraphy but continue using it afterwards.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: vtgrad on December 09, 2019, 10:17:10 AM
Reading this thread has been really inspiring guys!  I am currently very out of shape and overweight.  I used to work out all the time and run when I was younger, but becoming a husband, father and providing just took priority I guess.

Now I have a LOT of work to do.  I'm at 270lbs right now.  My ideal is about 190 but I'd be happy if I got down to 220 again.

Any pointers to get started?  I'll need to start slow otherwise I'll probably hurt myself.

I think your food is the one thing you have the most control over. Adding more vegetables to your meals and eliminating fried food is a good way to start (I don't know if these apply to you but just a suggestion). Maybe buy some sort of equipment you can use at home and doesn't take a lot of space. I've seen people use this kind (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marcy-Cardio-Mini-Cycle-Exercise-Bike-NS-909/17272594?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227014563384&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40331827592&wl4=pla-78293995232&wl5=9004173&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=17272594&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6Y2Co-eo5gIVCYizCh2yuA3DEAQYBSABEgIRi_D_BwE) for physical theraphy but continue using it afterwards.

I'll echo that advice and add to it...

Enjoy it... put some tunes in your ears and enjoy the work-outs.  Reward yourself weekly and look forward to that Chai Latte (made with real cream) and Lemon Bar from your local bakery once every couple of weeks.  You can change anything you want to change if you plan it, write it down (then the thoughts are physical things that you can see), and use that plan.  One day at a time and build the habit.  It's never too late to change yourself, to better yourself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Evermind on December 09, 2019, 10:41:22 AM
I think your food is the one thing you have the most control over. Adding more vegetables to your meals and eliminating fried food is a good way to start (I don't know if these apply to you but just a suggestion). Maybe buy some sort of equipment you can use at home and doesn't take a lot of space. I've seen people use this kind (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marcy-Cardio-Mini-Cycle-Exercise-Bike-NS-909/17272594?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227014563384&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40331827592&wl4=pla-78293995232&wl5=9004173&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=17272594&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6Y2Co-eo5gIVCYizCh2yuA3DEAQYBSABEgIRi_D_BwE) for physical theraphy but continue using it afterwards.

I'll echo that advice and add to it...
  • Remove soda from your diet (especially diet soda... if your going to drink it, drink the real thing in moderation.  Perhaps try to replace soda with real Q Ginger Ale or Kombucha)
    Add water to your diet, the more the better.
    Try a whole food plant-based diet the majority of the time (personally, I found equalibrium with eating meat only 1 or 2 times a week)
    Try to limit sugar intake as much as possible; and when you do eat it, eat the real thing
    Avoid anything that says "diet" on it.  It will likely be filled with artificial sugar (which your body processes in the same way as real sugar with a few nasty by-products)
    Don't be afraid of good fats... Eggs, avocados, Bone Broth (make your own and you'll save a bundle), etc.  Your body needs good fats... and your brain needs them.
    Take a hour or so on the weekends and plan the week's meal schedule, then shop for that schedule (if you've already spent the money, you're less likely to break the schedule and eat fast)
    Chickpeas man... find a few recipes for crunchy chickpeas that you like and use them to replace meat
    Time Restricted eating may help you as well (8-hour window to eat, 16-hour window to fast)
    Drink your coffee black (slow cold brew methods taste the best IMO, plus you can add flavoring to the cold brew like Vanilla Beans)
    Push-ups, body-weight Squats, and Pull-ups require little to no equipment... the Gorilla Bow would also allow you to be portable.
    Try the 7-minute Workout App

Enjoy it... put some tunes in your ears and enjoy the work-outs.  Reward yourself weekly and look forward to that Chai Latte (made with real cream) and Lemon Bar from your local bakery once every couple of weeks.  You can change anything you want to change if you plan it, write it down (then the thoughts are physical things that you can see), and use that plan.  One day at a time and build the habit.  It's never too late to change yourself, to better yourself.

That's some solid advice and even more solid list formatting :lol

I've been doing most of the advice offered in the post above since late September, started at 82kg/180lbs and floating around 72kg/158lbs now. Hopefully I can get down to 70kg before the year is over.

I'd love to get into running but it's getting a bit too cold here now. I'm set on starting in the early spring though, will probably hit a PM to Kade for some advice too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: vtgrad on December 09, 2019, 11:00:06 AM
 :lol  Yeah... soon my grammar and knowledge of popular culture will fall off and I'll be knighted as TAC's successor.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2019, 11:02:03 AM
Good on ya Ruslan.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on December 09, 2019, 11:19:47 AM
I've found running to just be hard on my ankles/knees which aren't the greatest to begin with.  Using an exercise bike allows me to watch TV and not be hard on my joints. 

I'd echo a lot of what vtgrad said.

Start slow, just slowly one by one eliminate the bad stuff from your diet.  I don't know about you, but for me it started with soda, then fast food, then pizza, then I started swapping my lunches with full healthy lunches, then the same for dinner, then I got even more hardcore and made my lunches oatmeal only with a banana.  Super low calorie and doesn't keep my starving.  Plus lots and lots of water.  Slowly just keep making the healthier adjustment as you get used to your previous adjustment.

Same with exercise, start slow and simple and work your way into more and more as your body adapts.

You'll find great success if you combine the exercise and diet.

Personally, I'm not a fad diet guy either.  Just keep the calories down and eat stuff that is just healthy in general, lean meats veggies and whole grains. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on December 09, 2019, 11:25:56 AM
Wow everyone, thanks for the advice and support!

My diet is generally ok except my sugar intake.  That is my biggest weakness.  However, soda isn't a problem for me.  But my portion size could also use some improvement.  I'm the only fat one in my family.  My wife and all my kids have a healthy weight.

When I was in shape before I got married, I liked lifting weights and running.  I have a desk job, so I'm quite sedentary which is another big problem.  However, I normally work from home which means I could fit in exercise during my breaks.

I like the myfitnesspal idea, I will learn how to use it.

I don't think a gym membership will help me all that much, because I doubt I would go because I don't drive.  But I am not opposed to buying home gym equipment, I have the space in my home and I think i would probably use it if I had it.  Any recommendations?

I've been looking at the Marcy MD-9010G but I'm open to anything that will give me a fairly complete workout and isn't thousands of dollars.

There is a cemetery about a block away that I could go running at, and I don't mind running in the winter as long as I can keep my lungs from freezing, any advice?

I agree about starting slow, I definitely need to.  The cemetery has a lot of roads in it so it would be easy to divide up into small manageable progressing sections.

I want to kick myself though for loosing my good habits I had when I was younger.  I used to lift weights every day with my brother and run 3 miles a day and I looked and felt great.

 My wife really liked the way I looked which is one of the reasons why she married me and I would really like to look like that again for her.  Saying that though, she doesn't complain to me about my weight and is very supportive.  But, if she still looks good after 7 kids, then what excuse do I have? :).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on December 09, 2019, 11:32:36 AM
Good luck and keep us updated.  I find that if I make updates here, or with friends, I open myself up to public shaming which keeps me motivated to keep going.  Once you start finding your flow and some pounds come off, you'll start having people notice and that's another good motivation.  Someone just earlier mentioned my fitness change today, makes me want to continue.  Now if only I can get the girls to notice.... but seriously, I've noticed in the last month getting checked out from girls that I never noticed before.  Also a good feeling and motivator to keep going.  I know you're married but hey if you can get the wife to want to hit the bedroom a bit more, that works too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on December 09, 2019, 01:55:02 PM
Good luck and keep us updated.  I find that if I make updates here, or with friends, I open myself up to public shaming which keeps me motivated to keep going.  Once you start finding your flow and some pounds come off, you'll start having people notice and that's another good motivation.  Someone just earlier mentioned my fitness change today, makes me want to continue.  Now if only I can get the girls to notice.... but seriously, I've noticed in the last month getting checked out from girls that I never noticed before.  Also a good feeling and motivator to keep going.  I know you're married but hey if you can get the wife to want to hit the bedroom a bit more, that works too.

I will.  Once I buy some running shoes and get started, I'll begin posting regular updates.  And yeah, more bedroom time would be nice!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 09, 2019, 01:56:45 PM
I just ate (5) Cake Pops that a co-worker gave to me as a gift to share with the family.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 03:58:41 PM
VTGrad, why the hate on the diet stuff?  I know it's still no good  for you but early on some diet drinks were pivotal to helping me control some calories and still drink something a bit sweet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
VTGrad, why the hate on the diet stuff?  I know it's still no good  for you but early on some diet drinks were pivotal to helping me control some calories and still drink something a bit sweet.

Prolly the chemical sweetener aspect.

Two more things for ya Lion (and everyone).  Two aha/epiphany moments I had in my weight loss journey (I went from 235 to 180 about 15 years ago - fell off the wagon a few years back, but I'm back down to the 180 range).

1.  It takes your brain 15 minutes to get the signal from your stomach that you're full.  So, cut your portion sizes, and STOP EATING BEFORE FEELING FULL.  30 minutes later, if you're still hungry, have a small snack.  I guaran-damn-tee this is a good way to get portion control under control.
2.  People often confuse the feeling of thirst for the feeling of hunger.  If you feel hungry - drink water.  Not only does it get your water intake in, and ergo, your metabolism up... it also satiates you.

This has been jingle.boy's nutrition tip of the evening.  Hey... who's the certified nutrition guru?  I forget which poster it is.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 05:09:29 PM
I know it's the artificial sweetener thing but I think that's overstated.  Long term effects may be a bit different but from a viewpoint of someone trying to cut calories yet slowly change their tastes and habits, for me they were vital.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 05:23:26 PM
Wow everyone, thanks for the advice and support!

My diet is generally ok except my sugar intake.  That is my biggest weakness.  However, soda isn't a problem for me.  But my portion size could also use some improvement.  I'm the only fat one in my family.  My wife and all my kids have a healthy weight.

When I was in shape before I got married, I liked lifting weights and running.  I have a desk job, so I'm quite sedentary which is another big problem.  However, I normally work from home which means I could fit in exercise during my breaks.

I like the myfitnesspal idea, I will learn how to use it.

I don't think a gym membership will help me all that much, because I doubt I would go because I don't drive.  But I am not opposed to buying home gym equipment, I have the space in my home and I think i would probably use it if I had it.  Any recommendations?

I've been looking at the Marcy MD-9010G but I'm open to anything that will give me a fairly complete workout and isn't thousands of dollars.

There is a cemetery about a block away that I could go running at, and I don't mind running in the winter as long as I can keep my lungs from freezing, any advice?

I agree about starting slow, I definitely need to.  The cemetery has a lot of roads in it so it would be easy to divide up into small manageable progressing sections.

I want to kick myself though for loosing my good habits I had when I was younger.  I used to lift weights every day with my brother and run 3 miles a day and I looked and felt great.

 My wife really liked the way I looked which is one of the reasons why she married me and I would really like to look like that again for her.  Saying that though, she doesn't complain to me about my weight and is very supportive.  But, if she still looks good after 7 kids, then what excuse do I have? :).

Sounds like you've been in shape and had a good fitness routine in the past mate, do you know what to do.  Just motivate yourself to get back into some sort of routine that works for you.

Just cut back your sugar where you can and be mindful of it, and it will make a difference.  I just limit my sugar on the weekends.  Just allow yourself certain times to have it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: vtgrad on December 10, 2019, 10:22:03 AM
VTGrad, why the hate on the diet stuff?  I know it's still no good  for you but early on some diet drinks were pivotal to helping me control some calories and still drink something a bit sweet.

Prolly the chemical sweetener aspect.

Two more things for ya Lion (and everyone).  Two aha/epiphany moments I had in my weight loss journey (I went from 235 to 180 about 15 years ago - fell off the wagon a few years back, but I'm back down to the 180 range).

1.  It takes your brain 15 minutes to get the signal from your stomach that you're full.  So, cut your portion sizes, and STOP EATING BEFORE FEELING FULL.  30 minutes later, if you're still hungry, have a small snack.  I guaran-damn-tee this is a good way to get portion control under control.
2.  People often confuse the feeling of thirst for the feeling of hunger.  If you feel hungry - drink water.  Not only does it get your water intake in, and ergo, your metabolism up... it also satiates you.

This has been jingle.boy's nutrition tip of the evening.  Hey... who's the certified nutrition guru?  I forget which poster it is.

Bingo!

Just a personal opinion based on my own research and experiences... added sugars (aka chem sweeteners) are high GI Index and cause rapid blood-sugar spikes, which then cause you to crash-and-crave again much sooner than true sugar foods (fruit lets say, which contains fiber and water).  Also, there's compelling evidence that all types of sugar, when consumed in large quantities, aids in growth of cancer cells.  Just research, not fact, but it would make sense as cells feed on sugar as energy (ergo cancerous cells would feed on the sugar as well).  Chem sweeteners are also processed more vigorously by the liver than "real" sugar which puts added stress on the organ.  Because of the way the body processes chem sugars, a calorie of chem sugar isn't really the same as a calorie of "real" sugar.  Just my two cents from my own research... not hate, just avoidance.  :biggrin:

To give another scenario... my brother is a Process Engineer for Gatorade and has told me many stories regarding the sugar substitutes that they receive when mixing the product.  These substitutes, when spilled, permanently stain anything they touch; even industrial chemical cleaners cannot remove the stains from the floor of the plant (which I have seen).  That convinced me to try and stay away from chem sugar as much as possible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2019, 02:47:15 PM
I agree for the most part and I've read all the articles but as I said, in moderation when trying to stick to a diet plan and a calorie defeceit, I don't see the problem.  Going from an overweight sugar fiend to a clean eating lean protein and vegetables man wasn't easy and it needed aids along the way to get there.  Diet change doesn't happen overnight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on December 12, 2019, 12:43:13 PM
I agree for the most part and I've read all the articles but as I said, in moderation when trying to stick to a diet plan and a calorie defeceit, I don't see the problem.  Going from an overweight sugar fiend to a clean eating lean protein and vegetables man wasn't easy and it needed aids along the way to get there.  Diet change doesn't happen overnight.

Very true, it won't be easy for me.  My bad health habits have been a long time in the making.

But I am going to start trying the oatmeal for one meal out of the day route that was mentioned.  I could put a banana/apple/strawberries on it to help flavor it instead of using brown sugar.  I can at least make a relatively small change like that to help begin making a transition.

And when I get my running shoes I will just jog with my wife on one of my breaks each day, and that will be step two.

starting to work from home actually helped my sugar intake considerably though.  I used to go visit a cupcake shop close to my office almost daily because they had the most amazing brownies.  And there was a local bakery that had amazing cinnamon rolls, and there is also an icecream shop near by... you get the idea.  Being at home makes those places a lot less accessible.

I've only been working from home about a month now, so I'm hoping in the long run this will help me begin sheding the pounds also.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2019, 03:29:33 PM
Oatmeal with a scoop of protein powder .... yum.  Seriously.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on December 12, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
I'm happy I actually enjoy eating oatmeal.  I use one serving of plain instant oats, which is 150 calories and one banana.  That's my lunch at work.  So cheap, effective, and not terrible in terms of taste with the banana in there.  It's not anything special obviously, but it does the job.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2019, 11:23:46 PM
Oatmeal with a scoop of protein powder .... yum.  Seriously.

Gotta get the right type of protein though.  Some don't work very well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on December 13, 2019, 05:32:31 AM
Ha, bachelors.  ::)

Mrs. P sent me to work yesterday with a slice of turkey pot pie. 400 calories, 2 grams of carbs. I scoff at your puny oatmeal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2019, 07:37:16 AM
Oatmeal with a scoop of protein powder .... yum.  Seriously.

Gotta get the right type of protein though.  Some don't work very well.

True, some brands clump badly.  I use LeanFit (sold inexpensively at Costco), which is fine enough that it mixes really well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on December 13, 2019, 05:07:29 PM
Ha, bachelors.  ::)

Mrs. P sent me to work yesterday with a slice of turkey pot pie. 400 calories, 2 grams of carbs. I scoff at your puny oatmeal.

 :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2019, 02:03:14 AM
Oatmeal with a scoop of protein powder .... yum.  Seriously.

Gotta get the right type of protein though.  Some don't work very well.

True, some brands clump badly.  I use LeanFit (sold inexpensively at Costco), which is fine enough that it mixes really well.

I use different brands and rotate all the time.  I can never settle on one brand or flavour, I get bored and have to change it up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on December 14, 2019, 05:23:04 AM
I agree for the most part and I've read all the articles but as I said, in moderation when trying to stick to a diet plan and a calorie defeceit, I don't see the problem.  Going from an overweight sugar fiend to a clean eating lean protein and vegetables man wasn't easy and it needed aids along the way to get there.  Diet change doesn't happen overnight.

Very true, it won't be easy for me.  My bad health habits have been a long time in the making.

But I am going to start trying the oatmeal for one meal out of the day route that was mentioned.  I could put a banana/apple/strawberries on it to help flavor it instead of using brown sugar.  I can at least make a relatively small change like that to help begin making a transition.

And when I get my running shoes I will just jog with my wife on one of my breaks each day, and that will be step two.

starting to work from home actually helped my sugar intake considerably though.  I used to go visit a cupcake shop close to my office almost daily because they had the most amazing brownies.  And there was a local bakery that had amazing cinnamon rolls, and there is also an icecream shop near by... you get the idea.  Being at home makes those places a lot less accessible.

I've only been working from home about a month now, so I'm hoping in the long run this will help me begin sheding the pounds also.

You sound motivated so it's doable. There is way more sound advice in this thread than scetchy. Stick with the science, be wary of schemes that want you to pay money for help, and I'm sure you can find something right for you.

As for me, what has always worked is having Mrs. P on board with whatever fitness/health road I'm on. For example, it's not helpful for me to be avoiding sugar and have her stashing Oreo's in the cupboard where the flax seeds are... or putting out bowls, bigger than my face, full of peanut-butter M&M's. When we're on the same page, it all goes smoothly. Plus, she and I enjoy sharing our successes together which is a big motivator.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2019, 03:49:20 PM
Ha, bachelors.  ::)

Mrs. P sent me to work yesterday with a slice of turkey pot pie. 400 calories, 2 grams of carbs. I scoff at your puny oatmeal.

I have no idea what that is.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2019, 04:00:53 PM
Ha, bachelors.  ::)

Mrs. P sent me to work yesterday with a slice of turkey pot pie. 400 calories, 2 grams of carbs. I scoff at your puny oatmeal.

I have no idea what that is.

Sounds like a half a turkey sandwich on a roll up with lettuce.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2019, 10:31:02 PM
Ha, bachelors.  ::)

Mrs. P sent me to work yesterday with a slice of turkey pot pie. 400 calories, 2 grams of carbs. I scoff at your puny oatmeal.

I have no idea what that is.

Sounds like a half a turkey sandwich on a roll up with lettuce.  :lol

Only 2 grams of carbs though.  I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on December 16, 2019, 05:27:21 AM
Only 2 grams of carbs though.  I'm intrigued.

Mrs. P made a crust from browned butter and a combo of almond flower/coconut flower, salt and water. The gravy was whole cream, turkey both, spices and EZ-Gel for a thickening agent. Turkey, white mushrooms and a bit of chopped broccoli for crunch and color. She probably got the recipe off one of the thousands of Keto food sites.

I was purely guessing at the nutritional value based on just a general knowledge gained while dieting. In actuality, while low, it probably had more that 2 net carbs, but not much. It didn't kick me out of ketosis, so that was the important part.

Edit: Mrs. P just woke up and I asked her about the pie. She said there was some white flower in the crust and some celery and onions that I missed in the veggies. She calculates that, per slice, the crust was about 4 net carbs. The veggies, maybe 3 at the most. The gravy and turkey, none. So, at the most (again per slice) 7 net carbs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2019, 03:08:34 PM
Carbs in the cream no? Or just fat based?

How long have you been doing keto mate? And what's your goals and what benefits have you seen?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on December 16, 2019, 10:27:19 PM
So having some distance from the keto thing, I think I can take a more objective stance on it. And my stance is....keto good, but not for two long. I'd say two months max if I were to do it again. Now if there were someone who was super overweight, I'd say keep on it until the weight is healthy...but keto didn't seem to play well with other athletic goals I had, like running endurance and strength goals. Once I got off it, I was able to hit baseline pretty quickly but yeah--keto is not going to be a lifestyle thing for me but just a backpocket trick in case I ever find myself unhealthily overweight again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2019, 03:19:31 AM
So having some distance from the keto thing, I think I can take a more objective stance on it. And my stance is....keto good, but not for two long. I'd say two months max if I were to do it again. Now if there were someone who was super overweight, I'd say keep on it until the weight is healthy...but keto didn't seem to play well with other athletic goals I had, like running endurance and strength goals. Once I got off it, I was able to hit baseline pretty quickly but yeah--keto is not going to be a lifestyle thing for me but just a backpocket trick in case I ever find myself unhealthily overweight again.

This seems like good info, makes total sense, especially with the athletic goals.  I'm pretty lean now and trying to drop the last of my stomach fat, and I'm reading a little on keto cycling too.  Thinkong like a 5 day thing then the extra carbs on the weekend, something like that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on December 17, 2019, 05:32:34 AM
Carbs in the cream no? Or just fat based?

Zero carbs in cream.

How long have you been doing keto mate? And what's your goals and what benefits have you seen?

I've been in ketosis non-stop since August 7th, or there abouts. My primary motivation was age.  :lol 

Let me explain. My doctor told me I was at the tipping point of getting diabetes (5.7 A1c) and was insisting I eat more veggies (which I already was doing) and get exercise (which I wasn't, really). Now, I already knew there was only so much exercise I could do without making myself worse off--a dodgy hip and knee you understand--so I was casting around for some help. Right away, Mrs. P and I did start walking the dog every morning for around 3 miles per day. We were golfing 18 holes three times per week and started walking the golf course when the temperature permitted. But in late July I was reading that Halle Berry has been fending off type 2 diabetes for years with the keto diet. We researched it, thought it made sense, threw out a shit load of sugary, starchy, processed foods and went shopping.

As of my most recent blood test my A1c's are an astounding 5.1! Cholestrol and blood pressure improved enough that my doctor is considering backing off my medications. I can more easily clean up after a BM because I've incidentally lost 10 inches around my belly and 4 inches around my waste... a little more than 2 stones. I have no acne anymore. I have less pain in my hands. All without tearing up my old joints with too much empty exercise (my term for exercise-for-exercise sake)

So really, my goals are to keep the ravages of old age at bay for as long as I can.
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Post by: Podaar on December 17, 2019, 05:52:18 AM
So having some distance from the keto thing, I think I can take a more objective stance on it. And my stance is....keto good, but not for two long. I'd say two months max if I were to do it again. Now if there were someone who was super overweight, I'd say keep on it until the weight is healthy...but keto didn't seem to play well with other athletic goals I had, like running endurance and strength goals. Once I got off it, I was able to hit baseline pretty quickly but yeah--keto is not going to be a lifestyle thing for me but just a backpocket trick in case I ever find myself unhealthily overweight again.

This seems like good info, makes total sense, especially with the athletic goals.  I'm pretty lean now and trying to drop the last of my stomach fat, and I'm reading a little on keto cycling too.  Thinkong like a 5 day thing then the extra carbs on the weekend, something like that.

Keto, is sustainable (in spite of what Chad may think) but probably not at the less-than-20-carbs level if you are athletic and looking to just trim up a bit, simply because you aren't getting enough protein and carbs to sustain extreme cardio and lifting. If your life is more sedentary, keto can become more of a lifestyle than just a diet. It's about being mindful of your health and the adverse effects of carbs on you as a person. It's primary lifestyle benefits, that I've noticed, is appetite suppression due to the amount of satisfying fat you eat. You just plain don't feel hungry which is hugely helpful for training oneself to better portion control. No sugar roller coaster, I haven't taken an ibuprofen for headache in three months! There is a huge community of really inspiring people out there to share your success with and most importantly, recipes! To make it work, it has to NOT be a punishment but a treat. Learning to prepare mouth watering keto meals and treats is key to sustainability because there's little packaged food that meets the need.

Anyway, I agree with you guys that if your goals are to loose that last little bit of body fat while you live a very athletic life... yeah, being in ketosis would not provide enough fuel.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2019, 06:46:48 AM
All fair points, Gregg.  And with those goals of yours in mind, I do see how it could be a sustainable thing.  For people with different fitness/athletic goals, Keto does seem to be only a short term thing to be used (as H suggests) as a 'cut' phase.  I must say, the appeal of high fat foods (lots of eggs, cheese, pork) sounds appealing, but it wouldn't fit in the jingle.household or with my fitness priorities. 

I'm glad to hear it's working for you and your needs tho.   :tup
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Post by: Podaar on December 17, 2019, 07:37:05 AM
Best thing about keto, Chad? Whiskey has zero carbs!!  :lol
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Post by: SchecterShredder on December 17, 2019, 08:29:02 AM
I won't dispute the effectiveness of Keto. It definitely works (ever see a high-level crossfit athlete? You could practically grate cheese on their abs). It's just not a realistic nutrition plan for my fitness regime. Even in the winter I'm still doing 2hr long-rides on the weekend, so my body needs a bunch of carbs just to sustain my energy levels through the workout. Also... I like to make pizza on the weekend so there's that, too.
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Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2019, 12:51:33 PM
Good info Podaar, and well done on your success.  Again, all good information.  I think it's simply a case of listening to your body, it tells you what it needs most of the time.  Fats are quite underrated too IMO, if that makes sense.  Nuts, eggs, salmon and peanut butter are constant staples in my diet.  I'd take them over pasta, rice, breads, potatoes anyday.  it's the ice cream and chocolate that gets me.
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Post by: Podaar on December 17, 2019, 01:03:53 PM
Good info Podaar, and well done on your success.  Again, all good information.  I think it's simply a case of listening to your body, it tells you what it needs most of the time.  Fats are quite underrated too IMO, if that makes sense.  Nuts, eggs, salmon and peanut butter are constant staples in my diet.  I'd take them over pasta, rice, breads, potatoes anyday.  it's the ice cream and chocolate that gets me.

Avocados, don't forget the avocados. They maybe the perfect "good fat" food and are loaded with vitamins and minerals. Plus, they're just fucking yummy!
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Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2019, 01:13:20 PM
Good info Podaar, and well done on your success.  Again, all good information.  I think it's simply a case of listening to your body, it tells you what it needs most of the time.  Fats are quite underrated too IMO, if that makes sense.  Nuts, eggs, salmon and peanut butter are constant staples in my diet.  I'd take them over pasta, rice, breads, potatoes anyday.  it's the ice cream and chocolate that gets me.

Avocados, don't forget the avocados. They maybe the perfect "good fat" food and are loaded with vitamins and minerals. Plus, they're just fucking yummy!

Personally, I HATE them.  I know flame away.  I've tried a few different types at different times, and I just can't fucking stand them.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on December 17, 2019, 01:21:55 PM
Good info Podaar, and well done on your success.  Again, all good information.  I think it's simply a case of listening to your body, it tells you what it needs most of the time.  Fats are quite underrated too IMO, if that makes sense.  Nuts, eggs, salmon and peanut butter are constant staples in my diet.  I'd take them over pasta, rice, breads, potatoes anyday.  it's the ice cream and chocolate that gets me.

Avocados, don't forget the avocados. They maybe the perfect "good fat" food and are loaded with vitamins and minerals. Plus, they're just fucking yummy!

Personally, I HATE them.  I know flame away.  I've tried a few different types at different times, and I just can't fucking stand them.

^^This. My wife kept trying to get me to eat avocados, so I caved and gave them a go. Never again will I allow that slimy nonsense in my mouth.

Peanut butter is my biggest nutritional weakness. I'm sure it's ok in moderation, but that's my problem. I eat it by the spoonful right out of the jar because it's so easily accessible. I'm actually considering putting in our time lock container each night because I struggle with middle of the night peanut butter snacking if I get summoned by my toddler during the night or have to go to the bathroom.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 17, 2019, 01:31:59 PM
Avocados need to be paired with the correct food for me to really like them.  Had some on a turkey sandwich last week that was really good.  I got this omega 3 trail mix from target that is soooo damn good with walnuts, almonds, craisins, and some sort of seed (forget off the top of my head) and while healthy fats, it may be too good.  I can't stop eating it and I may not buy it again for that reason
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Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2019, 02:23:22 PM
Good info Podaar, and well done on your success.  Again, all good information.  I think it's simply a case of listening to your body, it tells you what it needs most of the time.  Fats are quite underrated too IMO, if that makes sense.  Nuts, eggs, salmon and peanut butter are constant staples in my diet.  I'd take them over pasta, rice, breads, potatoes anyday.  it's the ice cream and chocolate that gets me.

Avocados, don't forget the avocados. They maybe the perfect "good fat" food and are loaded with vitamins and minerals. Plus, they're just fucking yummy!

Personally, I HATE them.  I know flame away.  I've tried a few different types at different times, and I just can't fucking stand them.

^^This. My wife kept trying to get me to eat avocados, so I caved and gave them a go. Never again will I allow that slimy nonsense in my mouth.

Peanut butter is my biggest nutritional weakness. I'm sure it's ok in moderation, but that's my problem. I eat it by the spoonful right out of the jar because it's so easily accessible. I'm actually considering putting in our time lock container each night because I struggle with middle of the night peanut butter snacking if I get summoned by my toddler during the night or have to go to the bathroom.

Thank you.  Fuck avocados!

With peanut butter, you can find lots of natural ones that are just that peanuts but the supermarket mass prodcued ones with the sugars and salts are just magic.  Yep, late night tablespoons of straight peanut butter is the go mate.  You kind of don't think of the amount of calories you consume in one big spoonful though, it's quite incredible.  Self control is definitely needed.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 17, 2019, 02:25:57 PM
I had a jar of peanut butter that was about to expire (I think it must have been my brothers, I don't but it because I will just eat it by the spoonful) and thats exactly what I did, no self control, just devoured the remaining half jar over the course of a couple days.  Not good for the diet.  I won't buy anymore because I can't have that temptation, same with this nuts.  Shit is supposed to be healthy but not when you eat so much of it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2019, 02:30:22 PM
I had a jar of peanut butter that was about to expire (I think it must have been my brothers, I don't but it because I will just eat it by the spoonful) and thats exactly what I did, no self control, just devoured the remaining half jar over the course of a couple days.  Not good for the diet.  I won't buy anymore because I can't have that temptation, same with this nuts.  Shit is supposed to be healthy but not when you eat so much of it.

People talk about nuts saying you can eat them cause they are healthy fats and whatnot.  Yet, the handful of nuts they probably grab and eat in 30 seconds probably has a quarter or more of their daily calories right there.  As with PB obviously the amount of calories in such a small amount is wicked.  If I take them to work, I always weigh out around 40g or so.  You have to portion it or else you'll be fucked.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 17, 2019, 02:43:38 PM
Exactly, my jar of nuts says 140 calories per serving and theres 20 servings.  So a handful is probably only half a serving considering how big the jar is, but when you have 5 handfulls... that shit adds up quickly.  It's certainly better than eating junk food but when the quantity starts to get up there, it's no longer healthy. 

I've found pickles to be an awesome low calorie snack.  These kosher dill pickles I could eat all day long and it's only 5 calories each.  High in salt though so still got to limit it, but in terms of calories, this has been one of my favorite go to snacks lately.  Also good as natural food against my gout (which hasn't been an issue for months now, my longest streak in a few years and I'd imagine my diet and exercise being a big reason for that, including pickles).
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Post by: Podaar on December 19, 2019, 06:59:55 AM
Fuck avocados!

No, no, no...you eat them, silly.
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2019, 04:18:47 PM
Fuck avocados!

No, no, no...you eat them, silly.

That's less fun.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 07, 2020, 06:00:03 AM
Besides lifting and cardio, I wanted to add more to my fitness, so I just started doing Jiu Jitsu and I have really fallen in love with it.

I thought I was in relatively decent shape, but all of that has been tested and I'm now working muscles I didn't even think about. And the hectic nature of sparring is fantastic cardio and is making my mind sharper. Its a pretty technical and fascinating discipline and I am really enjoying it.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 07, 2020, 06:14:35 AM
That sounds pretty cool.  The first full week back at work and I'm trying to get back into things.  I kept myself constant over the holidays but I'd like to keep working on losing some weight and it's sooo much easier when I work a normal schedule so I can keep a routine on my diet and work outs.  Day 1 was a success, bring on the rest of the week and so on.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 02:30:54 PM
Besides lifting and cardio, I wanted to add more to my fitness, so I just started doing Jiu Jitsu and I have really fallen in love with it.

I thought I was in relatively decent shape, but all of that has been tested and I'm now working muscles I didn't even think about. And the hectic nature of sparring is fantastic cardio and is making my mind sharper. Its a pretty technical and fascinating discipline and I am really enjoying it.

I've always wanted to get into something like this.  I still may in the future.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 03:19:51 PM
So, I've been pretty lean now for a while when some years ago I was fat and very out of shape but finally am to the point where I've dropped around 40kg-45kg (90-100lbslbs) and have maintained it for a while with some improvements over my body composition over time, while increasing fitness and strength.  I look okay but my stomach area still see effects of my 28 years or so of obesity.  I've been eating pretty shit since mid December, but not over eaten so I haven't increased in weight.  However I'm finding myself substituting proper meals for shit food and my beloved donuts and ice cream.  I'm finding I'm substituting calories more and more and because I'm pretty smart about it, maintaining my weight makes it more tempting to keep doing it.

I've decided for no reason, to try and completely cut all the crap and try and finally rid the excess fat on my stomach area.  I'm giving myself 3 months to achieve an outcome hopefully.  Looking at somewhat of a keto based diet but maybe more balanced between protein and fat.  It's the morning of day 3 and I'm kind of struggling.  I feel bloated from what I think is too much protein and my toilet habits have taken a hit.  Relying on shakes and more meat is hard to adjust to, and I really need to up my water intake.  Nuts and peanut butter seem like they will be a staple too.  I know I have to cut the shakes and have more proper meals with more fat, but time is tricky and I struggle with food prep.  It's only day 3 but feeling already I'll need to add more fatty fish perhaps like salmon over steak.  It's quite limiting once you start really. 

One thing I'd love to improve is sleep.  In my quieter season when I was starting later, the extra sleep seem to do wonders.  Super determined to try and get the body fat down though.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 07, 2020, 03:26:38 PM
Is there anything that shows a keto diet hits the belly fat hard?  I've been trying to figure out how to get the belly fat as well, but I'm not sure what exactly targets that.  A friend told me to stop drinking booze. 
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
Is there anything that shows a keto diet hits the belly fat hard?  I've been trying to figure out how to get the belly fat as well, but I'm not sure what exactly targets that.  A friend told me to stop drinking booze.

It's funny because I'm all about calories in and calories out and I've proven that to myself since mid December.  The talk is, the lack of carbs means your body taps into it's fat stores more, but coming back again, if you are in a calorie defeceit, the same thing will happen.

I haven't done much research, I just know I'm not a pasta, rice, bread, potato guy so in theory it seemed like I'd adapt to it.  I think cutting out stuff like protein bars also has been tough these last two days.  I do like the idea of higher fat intake, I think that's beneficial for us men.  Maybe if I can do a sensible carb refeed type thing twice a week it might be worth it. 

I'm really just looking at keeping carbs low unless for a refeed type situation, cut the crap food and train hard.  I don't want to make it too complicated with macros.  Might even have a bigger cheat meal once every fortnight of once a month.   
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 03:37:28 PM
Is there anything that shows a keto diet hits the belly fat hard?  I've been trying to figure out how to get the belly fat as well, but I'm not sure what exactly targets that.  A friend told me to stop drinking booze.

IMO alcohol is not good if you're trying to get and maintain a lean figure.  Maybe if your younger it's not too bad, but I'm 35 and don't drink really at all anymore and when I have a drink here or there, it doesn't really agree with me.  Everyone's different though, that's the thing, there's no one plan fits all.  Plus some people a gifted and can buck the system.  So many things come into play, age, hormones, genetics, type of activity, sleep cycles, you have to try and find something that works for you I guess.

Saying that, the leaner you get, the tougher it is to lose that fat.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 07, 2020, 03:49:23 PM
Yea I get that, and there's a reason they call it a "beer belly" I'm just wondering and I haven't found an answer of how to specifically target belly fat.  I'm not sure there is a way unless you just consistently burn more than you eat over a significant period that it's the only fat remaining to loose and that's the hardest part.  I'm not there at all yet, but I feel my legs/arms/face have all shrunk, but my belly has hit a point that is very hard to cut into.  I know someone told me "do more sit ups" but I don't think our bodies work like that.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
Yea I get that, and there's a reason they call it a "beer belly" I'm just wondering and I haven't found an answer of how to specifically target belly fat.  I'm not sure there is a way unless you just consistently burn more than you eat over a significant period that it's the only fat remaining to loose and that's the hardest part.  I'm not there at all yet, but I feel my legs/arms/face have all shrunk, but my belly has hit a point that is very hard to cut into.  I know someone told me "do more sit ups" but I don't think our bodies work like that.


You just answered your own question. 

You simply can't target fat anywhere on your body.  The stomach is usually the last place for it to go, so body fat levels simply need to be dropped and when fat has been taken from all other places, it will start coming from your stomach. 

I made the mistake for years though not training my abs.  Sit ups won't make the fat from the stomach drop, and people are naive to think that, but training core can add some thickness and we train arms, back, legs, chest, shoulders, abs are no different. I train abs a lot now and it's helped my core, but hopefully it at least builds them up slightly and makes them slightly more noticeable at a higher body fat.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 07, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
Yea I talked about about exactly this with others outside of here, brought it up in case someone had some good insight above what I understand but it may just be as simple as already stated except for the simple part.
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Post by: Podaar on January 07, 2020, 05:03:18 PM
As for alcohol and being lean...it depends on what you drink and, of course, how much. Spirits are typically low in calories and zero carbs, a glass of wine is moderate in both calories and carbs, beer runs the gambit from low to high in both categories. What is significantly detrimental to weight loss goals are mixers, soda, garnishes and liqueurs. They are all loaded with both calories and carbs, not to mention carbonation. If your jam is an occasional spirit neat or on the rocks it shouldn't effect your weight loss at all.

Cram, I've been in ketosis for months now and I'm pretty lean everywhere but my middle. I expect that the last 15 lbs (or so) left to lose is going to take 6 months or better. So, I'd say that Keto will help you loose your belly fat but it's not quick by itself. Combined with moderate weight lifting and core exercises you may get quicker results.

Edit: Keto's is a pretty decent sized commitment, though. I don't think anyone would be pleased with it as an on again off again sort of diet.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 07, 2020, 05:12:48 PM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

As for my drinking habits, I'm close to an exclusive vodka club drinker which is one of the lowest calorie drinks you can have. I never drink soda and beer is very very limited for me because my body doesn't handle it well anymore other than spot drinks here and there. Although white claws have become a nice replacement for a social beer other than the girly stigma.
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Post by: H2 on January 07, 2020, 07:40:27 PM
So, I've been pretty lean now for a while when some years ago I was fat and very out of shape but finally am to the point where I've dropped around 40kg-45kg (90-100lbslbs) and have maintained it for a while with some improvements over my body composition over time, while increasing fitness and strength.  I look okay but my stomach area still see effects of my 28 years or so of obesity.  I've been eating pretty shit since mid December, but not over eaten so I haven't increased in weight.  However I'm finding myself substituting proper meals for shit food and my beloved donuts and ice cream.  I'm finding I'm substituting calories more and more and because I'm pretty smart about it, maintaining my weight makes it more tempting to keep doing it.

I've decided for no reason, to try and completely cut all the crap and try and finally rid the excess fat on my stomach area.  I'm giving myself 3 months to achieve an outcome hopefully.  Looking at somewhat of a keto based diet but maybe more balanced between protein and fat.  It's the morning of day 3 and I'm kind of struggling.  I feel bloated from what I think is too much protein and my toilet habits have taken a hit.  Relying on shakes and more meat is hard to adjust to, and I really need to up my water intake.  Nuts and peanut butter seem like they will be a staple too.  I know I have to cut the shakes and have more proper meals with more fat, but time is tricky and I struggle with food prep.  It's only day 3 but feeling already I'll need to add more fatty fish perhaps like salmon over steak.  It's quite limiting once you start really. 

One thing I'd love to improve is sleep.  In my quieter season when I was starting later, the extra sleep seem to do wonders.  Super determined to try and get the body fat down though.
Nice man! Sounds like you're motivated. The big thing I'd say I learned from keto is that it worked but my athletic performance took a hit (both in intensity and endurance of weight lifting and running). So if I were to do it again, I'd probably only go for a month, or two months tops. Good luck to you, let us know how it goes!

@cramx3 This video's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-oYyMNMmkw) video description links to a bunch of studies that validates the effectiveness of low-carb diets for weight loss.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 07:47:02 PM
As for alcohol and being lean...it depends on what you drink and, of course, how much. Spirits are typically low in calories and zero carbs, a glass of wine is moderate in both calories and carbs, beer runs the gambit from low to high in both categories. What is significantly detrimental to weight loss goals are mixers, soda, garnishes and liqueurs. They are all loaded with both calories and carbs, not to mention carbonation. If your jam is an occasional spirit neat or on the rocks it shouldn't effect your weight loss at all.

Cram, I've been in ketosis for months now and I'm pretty lean everywhere but my middle. I expect that the last 15 lbs (or so) left to lose is going to take 6 months or better. So, I'd say that Keto will help you loose your belly fat but it's not quick by itself. Combined with moderate weight lifting and core exercises you may get quicker results.

Edit: Keto's is a pretty decent sized commitment, though. I don't think anyone would be pleased with it as an on again off again sort of diet.

Do you have any cheats or refeeds mate?  Sounds like your making some good progress.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 07:49:20 PM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

As for my drinking habits, I'm close to an exclusive vodka club drinker which is one of the lowest calorie drinks you can have. I never drink soda and beer is very very limited for me because my body doesn't handle it well anymore other than spot drinks here and there. Although white claws have become a nice replacement for a social beer other than the girly stigma.

If you can count your alcohol calories into your daily allowance somehow, it would at least be not so damaging.  I'm not sure what Vodka club is but maybe substuting vodka in some soda water or something?  It all depends as Podaar said, how often and how much you're drinking.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
So, I've been pretty lean now for a while when some years ago I was fat and very out of shape but finally am to the point where I've dropped around 40kg-45kg (90-100lbslbs) and have maintained it for a while with some improvements over my body composition over time, while increasing fitness and strength.  I look okay but my stomach area still see effects of my 28 years or so of obesity.  I've been eating pretty shit since mid December, but not over eaten so I haven't increased in weight.  However I'm finding myself substituting proper meals for shit food and my beloved donuts and ice cream.  I'm finding I'm substituting calories more and more and because I'm pretty smart about it, maintaining my weight makes it more tempting to keep doing it.

I've decided for no reason, to try and completely cut all the crap and try and finally rid the excess fat on my stomach area.  I'm giving myself 3 months to achieve an outcome hopefully.  Looking at somewhat of a keto based diet but maybe more balanced between protein and fat.  It's the morning of day 3 and I'm kind of struggling.  I feel bloated from what I think is too much protein and my toilet habits have taken a hit.  Relying on shakes and more meat is hard to adjust to, and I really need to up my water intake.  Nuts and peanut butter seem like they will be a staple too.  I know I have to cut the shakes and have more proper meals with more fat, but time is tricky and I struggle with food prep.  It's only day 3 but feeling already I'll need to add more fatty fish perhaps like salmon over steak.  It's quite limiting once you start really. 

One thing I'd love to improve is sleep.  In my quieter season when I was starting later, the extra sleep seem to do wonders.  Super determined to try and get the body fat down though.
Nice man! Sounds like you're motivated. The big thing I'd say I learned from keto is that it worked but my athletic performance took a hit (both in intensity and endurance of weight lifting and running). So if I were to do it again, I'd probably only go for a month, or two months tops. Good luck to you, let us know how it goes!

@cramx3 This video's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-oYyMNMmkw) video description links to a bunch of studies that validates the effectiveness of low-carb diets for weight loss.

Thanks mate.  Yeah, motivation is definitely not an issue for me.  With the athletic performance, I was already feeling weaker on day 2 haha.  Yesterday afternoon was a tough workout.  I'll see how today goes.  The weather and getting up at 4am and working 12 hours isn't optimal either, but a bit of extra pre-workout might do the trick. 
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Post by: Podaar on January 08, 2020, 05:22:34 AM
Do you have any cheats or refeeds mate?

I avoid them, to be honest. I tend to go the other way and go with intermittent fasting. Still, if an occasional peanut butter M&M (or two) happened to be within arms reach I enjoy it without worry. One the advantages I have over ya'll is a partner (Mrs. P) who enjoys recipe hunting and making keto goodies. Now she and I always share meal making (and clean up), but she makes treats during the day while I'm gone. The treats aren't generally my thing, but it is nice when an evening craving hits me to have a square of (I kid you not) keto toffee.

I don't have the energy issue because I'm not involved in the exercise phase of this thread...at least not in the way you folks talk about exercise.

Sounds like your making some good progress.

I am, I am. Kinda plateaued for a few weeks around the holidays, but I'm back to melting away. Hit a new milestone yesterday, so I'm excited to see it continue.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 08, 2020, 05:27:35 AM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

The science is clear, putting your body into a state of ketosis will burn any fat you have. It has to, for the energy, it doesn't have a choice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 08, 2020, 06:20:05 AM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

The science is clear, putting your body into a state of ketosis will burn any fat you have. It has to, for the energy, it doesn't have a choice.

I understand, any low calorie diet will kill any body fat, I'm only talking specifcally belly fat though.  If there was a diet that did ONLY that, I may be interested.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2020, 02:51:16 PM
It is scientifically impossible to spot reduce fat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 08, 2020, 02:54:20 PM
Reading all this, I feel like a fat slob.


One the advantages I have over ya'll is a partner (Mrs. P) who enjoys recipe hunting

Huge advantage.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 02:58:56 PM
Do you have any cheats or refeeds mate?

I avoid them, to be honest. I tend to go the other way and go with intermittent fasting. Still, if an occasional peanut butter M&M (or two) happened to be within arms reach I enjoy it without worry. One the advantages I have over ya'll is a partner (Mrs. P) who enjoys recipe hunting and making keto goodies. Now she and I always share meal making (and clean up), but she makes treats during the day while I'm gone. The treats aren't generally my thing, but it is nice when an evening craving hits me to have a square of (I kid you not) keto toffee.

I don't have the energy issue because I'm not involved in the exercise phase of this thread...at least not in the way you folks talk about exercise.

Sounds like your making some good progress.

I am, I am. Kinda plateaued for a few weeks around the holidays, but I'm back to melting away. Hit a new milestone yesterday, so I'm excited to see it continue.

Good on you brother.  Sounds like your willpower is quite strong.  It's Thursday morning and while I'm buggered from my workouts, my stomach is starting to feel a bit more normal.  I think more water helps.  Come Saturday though, keeping the cravings in check is going to be near impossible.  Since I am heavy into the exercise, I think I'll at least try a refeed and see how it goes going into next week.  Might include a little potato and maybe some low calorie ice cream which still has some carbs.  I dunno, just playing around.

I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

The science is clear, putting your body into a state of ketosis will burn any fat you have. It has to, for the energy, it doesn't have a choice.

I guess my fear in regards to training, whether any muscle burning comes in over fat.  I guess that's where making sure you're not undereating comes into play.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 03:00:15 PM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

The science is clear, putting your body into a state of ketosis will burn any fat you have. It has to, for the energy, it doesn't have a choice.

I understand, any low calorie diet will kill any body fat, I'm only talking specifcally belly fat though.  If there was a diet that did ONLY that, I may be interested.

It's impossible.  You will never find a study for that because it can't be done.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 03:01:28 PM
Reading all this, I feel like a fat slob.


One the advantages I have over ya'll is a partner (Mrs. P) who enjoys recipe hunting

Huge advantage.

haha, whenever I make it over there mate I'll come and take you through a workout.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 08, 2020, 03:33:50 PM
No fucking chance! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 03:51:46 PM
No fucking chance! :lol

 :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 08, 2020, 03:54:06 PM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

The science is clear, putting your body into a state of ketosis will burn any fat you have. It has to, for the energy, it doesn't have a choice.

I understand, any low calorie diet will kill any body fat, I'm only talking specifcally belly fat though.  If there was a diet that did ONLY that, I may be interested.

It's impossible.  You will never find a study for that because it can't be done.

Those infomercials say different!  I literally saw an ad for some stomach fat workout app yesterday  :lol fuck that.  Also, I'd rather eat well balanced than do keto, I think that's overall healthier and it's already proven to be effective.  Just need to keep getting better at it to dig into the belly fat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 08, 2020, 04:22:44 PM
Here you go Cram! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-A6Cl6kfA)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 04:30:48 PM
I'm not interested in keto unless science showed it made a significant dent in belly fat.

The science is clear, putting your body into a state of ketosis will burn any fat you have. It has to, for the energy, it doesn't have a choice.

I understand, any low calorie diet will kill any body fat, I'm only talking specifcally belly fat though.  If there was a diet that did ONLY that, I may be interested.

It's impossible.  You will never find a study for that because it can't be done.

Those infomercials say different!  I literally saw an ad for some stomach fat workout app yesterday  :lol fuck that.  Also, I'd rather eat well balanced than do keto, I think that's overall healthier and it's already proven to be effective.  Just need to keep getting better at it to dig into the belly fat.

Just have to find what works for you and can be sustainable.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2020, 06:45:27 AM
Here you go Cram! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-A6Cl6kfA)

 :rollin

So some of you may know, I went to a wedding in December for a family friend and Mike "the Situation" was there.  He's a reality TV star, but this guy is in amazing shape.  His wife, sister of the family friend being married, literally posted using a similar device to the above.  She's also in amazing shape.  Both of them are like "insta-famous" and do all sorts of shitty advertising for shit products on their instagram.  I'm pretty sure that product is one of them from hers.  :lol

But regardless, I did have a short conversation with Mike at the wedding, I asked him for advice on getting into the great shape that he is in.  He's sober and does more of "inspirational" type of things now that he is out of jail  :lol his advice to me was to always one up yourself.  Every week find something you are doing and do it a little more or better or harder.  And he also said always have one cheat day a week.  I asked him about calling it a reward day, he didn't like that for some reason :lol  I kind of wish I got to talk to him more, but he was fairly unapproachable.  Also, he looks like he is in too good of shape to be true, as in I question if he did/does steroids.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 02:27:28 PM
Here you go Cram! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-A6Cl6kfA)

 :rollin

So some of you may know, I went to a wedding in December for a family friend and Mike "the Situation" was there.  He's a reality TV star, but this guy is in amazing shape.  His wife, sister of the family friend being married, literally posted using a similar device to the above.  She's also in amazing shape.  Both of them are like "insta-famous" and do all sorts of shitty advertising for shit products on their instagram.  I'm pretty sure that product is one of them from hers.  :lol

But regardless, I did have a short conversation with Mike at the wedding, I asked him for advice on getting into the great shape that he is in.  He's sober and does more of "inspirational" type of things now that he is out of jail  :lol his advice to me was to always one up yourself.  Every week find something you are doing and do it a little more or better or harder.  And he also said always have one cheat day a week.  I asked him about calling it a reward day, he didn't like that for some reason :lol  I kind of wish I got to talk to him more, but he was fairly unapproachable.  Also, he looks like he is in too good of shape to be true, as in I question if he did/does steroids.

That guy from memory probably would have had a round of steroids, but maybe I'm just envious.  The bolded part is very good advice though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2020, 02:35:29 PM
Yea, I think the advice was good but if he's doing steroids it kind of invalidates a lot of things about how I feel about him.  He is a bit unnaturally large IMO but maybe someone can tell me that it's natural, I want to believe it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 02:39:08 PM
Yea, I think the advice was good but if he's doing steroids it kind of invalidates a lot of things about how I feel about him.  He is a bit unnaturally large IMO but maybe someone can tell me that it's natural, I want to believe it.

I still takes hard work to get in the shape people are in even with steroid use.  It isn't magic, it's just makes it so much easier.

I had a workmate that dealt in that sort of shit and offered me steroids plenty of times, I just couldn't bring myself to do it. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: axeman90210 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:22 PM
Yeah, when I'm going out for a run in the morning before work (this time of year the cold normally means I'm on the elliptical instead) I basically run a  big 2 mile rectangle and I start running at each corner of the rectangle and run until I can't anymore and then I walk to the next corner. I always try to make a mental note of where I quit running and the next time out make sure I go a little bit further.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2020, 07:27:58 PM
Yea, I think the advice was good but if he's doing steroids it kind of invalidates a lot of things about how I feel about him.  He is a bit unnaturally large IMO but maybe someone can tell me that it's natural, I want to believe it.

I still takes hard work to get in the shape people are in even with steroid use.  It isn't magic, it's just makes it so much easier.

I had a workmate that dealt in that sort of shit and offered me steroids plenty of times, I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

One of my friends who noticed my weight loss a few months ago mentioned I should take testosterone.  I assumed he meant some sort of steroid?  I don't know, but it's not for me.  For one, I feel like it's cheating.  Sure you still have to work at it, but it changes things.  I'd rather not risk my nuts and my attitude to get jacked.  I'd rather a more natural approach and a natural look. I know from high school someone who is really into the steroids and he looks absolutely ridiculous with how big he is, also has a crazy anger problem.  I'd imagine his testes are peanuts as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 07:44:58 PM
Yea, I think the advice was good but if he's doing steroids it kind of invalidates a lot of things about how I feel about him.  He is a bit unnaturally large IMO but maybe someone can tell me that it's natural, I want to believe it.

I still takes hard work to get in the shape people are in even with steroid use.  It isn't magic, it's just makes it so much easier.

I had a workmate that dealt in that sort of shit and offered me steroids plenty of times, I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

One of my friends who noticed my weight loss a few months ago mentioned I should take testosterone.  I assumed he meant some sort of steroid?  I don't know, but it's not for me.  For one, I feel like it's cheating.  Sure you still have to work at it, but it changes things.  I'd rather not risk my nuts and my attitude to get jacked.  I'd rather a more natural approach and a natural look. I know from high school someone who is really into the steroids and he looks absolutely ridiculous with how big he is, also has a crazy anger problem.  I'd imagine his testes are peanuts as well.

Yeah, basically testosterone but I think there's different types at different strengths.  The problems it can cause your sexual function and balls scares me off too.  Also I'm moody as fuck anyway so don't need any extra help with that lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 09, 2020, 07:45:58 PM
This thread is getting weird. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 08:54:27 PM
This thread is getting weird. :lol

Let me guess, you don't understand right?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 10, 2020, 05:21:17 AM
This thread is getting weird. :lol

Let me guess, you don't understand right?

And now for something he completely won't understand...

I've begun three rounds of sun salutations, followed by warrior 1 and 2, followed by some very light weight lifting for shoulders, back, chest, arms, and core. I'm going to give it a few days at the minimum weight to determine how sore I'll be before adjusting the amount for each lift. This routine takes about 45 minutes. My goal is 5 days a week with two rest days that I'll shuffle in stretching.

It will be interesting to see how my energy for the ol' man workouts, well... work out while in ketosis.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on January 10, 2020, 01:24:46 PM
TFW you get into lifting and your T goes up and your receding hairline accelerates  :censored
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 04:21:40 PM
This thread is getting weird. :lol

Let me guess, you don't understand right?

And now for something he completely won't understand...

I've begun three rounds of sun salutations, followed by warrior 1 and 2, followed by some very light weight lifting for shoulders, back, chest, arms, and core. I'm going to give it a few days at the minimum weight to determine how sore I'll be before adjusting the amount for each lift. This routine takes about 45 minutes. My goal is 5 days a week with two rest days that I'll shuffle in stretching.

It will be interesting to see how my energy for the ol' man workouts, well... work out while in ketosis.

Don't feel bad here Tim, I had to google sun salutations and Warrior 1 and 2.

I have never ever given a thought to Yoga type stuff.  I heard it makes you sorer than what you think though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 04:23:43 PM
Just going to call him Yogaar for now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 04:23:50 PM
TFW you get into lifting and your T goes up and your receding hairline accelerates  :censored

I had to good TFW also.  :lol

Yeah now you say that, maybe I'm just paranoid as shit but I feel I've lost a lot of hair in the last 3 days being on a higher fat and lower carb. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 04:24:56 PM
Just going to call him Yogaar for now.

That's a cool name.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 04:27:28 PM
Just going to call him Yogaar for now.

That's a cool name.  :lol

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/VaQ5kBkdhhd9S/source.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 10, 2020, 04:39:43 PM
I can't laugh today, guys, but I recognize that as being clever, Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 11, 2020, 03:23:20 PM
I thought I'd give you all an update.

I've begun jogging and have done it every day.  I'm starting out slow, just half a block, but I'm feeling pretty good and starting next week I will increase the distance to 3/4 of a block. 

I know it doesn't sound like much, but I'm a big guy.  My new years resolution is to work up to running a mile by the end of the year.  I will probably go past that but I wasn't sure how my body would handle it considering I've been away from exercising so long.

But hey, at least I'm starting :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 11, 2020, 09:38:12 PM
Dude, good stuff. Welcome to the club of one upping yourself  :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 03:05:41 AM
I thought I'd give you all an update.

I've begun jogging and have done it every day.  I'm starting out slow, just half a block, but I'm feeling pretty good and starting next week I will increase the distance to 3/4 of a block. 

I know it doesn't sound like much, but I'm a big guy.  My new years resolution is to work up to running a mile by the end of the year.  I will probably go past that but I wasn't sure how my body would handle it considering I've been away from exercising so long.

But hey, at least I'm starting :)

Awesome mate.  Every day that you do just a little bit more than the day before, than that's a big win.  Small steps is what it takes.  Keep going.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 12, 2020, 05:21:53 AM
I thought I'd give you all an update.

I've begun jogging and have done it every day.  I'm starting out slow, just half a block, but I'm feeling pretty good and starting next week I will increase the distance to 3/4 of a block. 

I know it doesn't sound like much, but I'm a big guy.  My new years resolution is to work up to running a mile by the end of the year.  I will probably go past that but I wasn't sure how my body would handle it considering I've been away from exercising so long.

But hey, at least I'm starting :)

(https://i.imgur.com/IynujEQ.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 12, 2020, 05:35:34 AM
Keep that shit up, Lion
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 12, 2020, 12:44:32 PM
I thought I'd give you all an update.

I've begun jogging and have done it every day.  I'm starting out slow, just half a block, but I'm feeling pretty good and starting next week I will increase the distance to 3/4 of a block. 

I know it doesn't sound like much, but I'm a big guy.  My new years resolution is to work up to running a mile by the end of the year.  I will probably go past that but I wasn't sure how my body would handle it considering I've been away from exercising so long.

But hey, at least I'm starting :)

Great! I started running as exercise (then turned into an obsession) back in 2007. And I started the same way but I ran from street light to street light. I’d run to one then walk to the next.....run....then walk. I quickly ‘got into’ running and FF 13 years I’ve ran countless races and countless miles.

Stick with it man....you’re approach is great. Do what you can handle and increase as your body lets you know what you can do.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 03:17:36 PM
So, after a week of a low carb diet, I'm not sure if this is sustainable for me.  I don't know if I was in ketosis or anything, or even how long it takes, but Monday to Friday I ate no more than 40g of carbs a day, that I know.  Fat was quite high but protein was quite high.  I like the low carb through the week, and really like the higher fat, the food choices do seem to work for me.  But I'm training 7 days a week at the moment.  5 days weight training and usually swimming on Saturday and a 5-10km run on Sundays.  Sometimes after my weight sessions too there will be 10-15 minutes cardio.

My swim on Saturday was fucking awful, felt terrible.  Saturday night, I upped the carbs with some rice, potatoes and some lower calorie ice cream and a little bit of chocolate.  Under what I would normally eat.  My run yesterday was atrocious.  I had a few more carbs Sunday night.  I'm not sure if it's just the lack of calories considering what I would normally eat but training this intensively, I never felt so bad come the weekend.  Monday morning now and I'm going to try again this week and see how my week goes.  Not sure if it's in my head, lack of carbs, withdrawals from the amount of sugar I was consuming or I just hadn't replaced the number of calories well enough.  I'm not starting calorie counting again or anything, that took my focus off my training a little.  I want to stay quite intuitive.  Bottom line is, if my performance is decreasing, this is what I don't want.  I've been there in the past and believe experienced quite a bit of muscle loss.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 13, 2020, 06:33:35 AM
Wolfking,

Yeah, I was kinda wondering how that was going to work out for you considering the amount of intense exercise you do. Sounds like it might not be the right fit.

As for me, so far so good. I'm feeling pretty knackered after my light morning workout, but I seem to bounce back pretty quickly. Within an hour I'm back to having energy but I suspect I'll need to eat more calories to have enough fuel to not feel that hour long crash. We'll see how this week goes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 13, 2020, 08:10:21 AM
Yesterday was a good day for me.  40 minute bike ride, my best dumbbell performance in terms of amount of reps, then had 15000 steps as I walked around NYC to go to the Epica concert where I moshed and got wild for the last 45 minutes of their set and drenched in sweat.  I can't recall ever feeling so physically good and strong, probably since I was a teen.  In fact a lot of the people I was moshing with and hanging with all thought I was in my early 20s.  However, my body is so damn sore today so I'm likely not doing much exercising tonight plus both my middle fingers got jammed so using dumbbells might be off limit for a few days.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: vtgrad on January 13, 2020, 10:19:09 AM
Just going to call him Yogaar for now.

That's a cool name.  :lol

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/VaQ5kBkdhhd9S/source.gif)

Add Sothoth to Yogaar and you'll summon the Gate Keeper of the Old Ones.  Chant that out-loud Tim and see if you can bring on the end of all creation.  :lol

Yoga changed my flexibility for certain; I see it most in weekly basketball and my golf swing.  It's also quite relaxing after hard lifting... I assume due to static holds and deep breathing.  It also amps my concentration and I try to go through a flow before hiking or scrambling boulders (can't do much bouldering around me but there are a few spots).

Pavel's Kettle Bell stretches have helped me too... not to mention the swings and get-up.  I think the warm-ups and stretches are called the kettle bell pry (deep squat position with a kettle bell), head rotations (light kettle bell rotating around the head), and squeeze hip thrusts.  If you search one of those videos sites for "Pavel Simple and Sinister" you'll run across some of his stuff (Strong First is his company).  He's been a guest on JRE as well... he's the real deal I think.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2020, 03:35:55 PM
Wolfking,

Yeah, I was kinda wondering how that was going to work out for you considering the amount of intense exercise you do. Sounds like it might not be the right fit.

As for me, so far so good. I'm feeling pretty knackered after my light morning workout, but I seem to bounce back pretty quickly. Within an hour I'm back to having energy but I suspect I'll need to eat more calories to have enough fuel to not feel that hour long crash. We'll see how this week goes.

I'm going to persist.  Pre workout is crucial and my Monday chest session was actually really quite good.  I felt like a zombie all day at work but usually, once I'm in there, I can go okay.  It will be my cardio sessions on the weekend that will be the test, that was the kicker for me.  The thing is though, I really like this way of eating, through the week anyway.  Greens, nuts, peanut butter, steak, salmon, chicken, some 100% beef sausages, the food is sitting well with me.  Makes the weekend cravings lower and took me less to get my 'cheat' fix, which is good.  Feel pretty shit this morning, but as I probably mentioned, I'm up at 4am which I think is a big factor also.  Thanks for the thoughts mate, I will persist and see how week 2 goes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 14, 2020, 07:00:05 AM
Wolfking,

Here's an article I found on keto and it's effects on muscle building. (https://hvmn.com/blog/keto-diet/building-muscle-on-keto-an-evidence-based-guide) It also touches on performance and energy (although that's not the thrust of the article) during intense activity/lifting. I know this is just a blog, and we should be skeptical of any writing that seems to suppose an outcome at the beginning, but this dude provides plenty of study and evidence to back up his position. Anyway, I found it informative, especially this bit.

Quote
In fact, keto-adapted athletes who were compared to athletes consuming around 600 grams of carbohydrates per day actually had similar levels of stored muscle glycogen. After exercise, the keto-adapted athletes were also able to replenish their levels of stored glycogen just as well as the carbohydrate-consuming athletes—despite consuming about 75% less carbohydrates during that period.14 Something happens to keto-adapted athletes that allow them to maintain glycogen levels at a high level. But what?

What this suggests, for you, is that if you actually get into ketosis and maintain it for a while, you will train your body to be more efficient at energy production and muscle recovery after a work out. At the same time you would receive the added benefit of reduced body fat.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2020, 03:26:26 PM
Good blog mate.  It does mean though my weekend 'cheat' 'refeed' would have to go.  Not sure if I want to do that.  It would have to go so I can maintain that consistency.  I know changing up all the time probably is not really going to do much or get much benefit.  It makes sense being in that state long term, your body has to adapt.

I like the part of the blog though that extra protein isn't a problem, that fits me nicely.

Had giant piece of salmon last night with a couple of eggs and green beans.  Fucking beautiful.  I really do enjoy the eating even though it's a littel restrictive.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 14, 2020, 03:28:11 PM
If I understand the foundation of keto, doesn't that 're-feed' meal kick you back out of ketosis?  Ergo your killing any/all effort of eating to get in ketosis 5 days a week, just to not be in ketosis for that re-feed?  Have I got it right?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 14, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
That's depends, Chad. We're all different. It took me five days on the diet before I ever reached ketosis the first time. Mrs. P took even longer, nearly a week. Currently, I could go out tonight for sushi and have a couple Kirin Ichiban's and be out of ketosis by morning. Yet, if I fast that morning (until noon) and loading up on "good" fats for dinner, I'd be back in the next morning. My wife would require a few days more. So, I could conceivably have "cheat" weekends, as long as I don't load up on sugars, and be just fine. I'm not sure about anybody else would though and I don't think I'd recommend it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2020, 04:57:42 PM
If I understand the foundation of keto, doesn't that 're-feed' meal kick you back out of ketosis?  Ergo your killing any/all effort of eating to get in ketosis 5 days a week, just to not be in ketosis for that re-feed?  Have I got it right?

That's my line of thinking, and exactly what I'm probably doing haha.

That's depends, Chad. We're all different. It took me five days on the diet before I ever reached ketosis the first time. Mrs. P took even longer, nearly a week. Currently, I could go out tonight for sushi and have a couple Kirin Ichiban's and be out of ketosis by morning. Yet, if I fast that morning (until noon) and loading up on "good" fats for dinner, I'd be back in the next morning. My wife would require a few days more. So, I could conceivably have "cheat" weekends, as long as I don't load up on sugars, and be just fine. I'm not sure about anybody else would though and I don't think I'd recommend it.

That gives me some hope however.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 14, 2020, 08:55:20 PM

You guys are amazing!  Thanks for the huge support.  This totally made my day when I read it.

I'm doing one thing at a time.  Once I have developed a good habit running and things are going well, then I will begin adjusting my food.

One thing I noticed that really made me happy was that after the first week was over, my body wanted more.  I remembered how I used to feel when I used to work out years ago.  And I couldn't wait to begin running 3/4 of a block.

I weighed myself on Monday and I lost 3 pounds from the previous week.  So even though my jogging sessions were short, it seemed to make a big difference.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 14, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
Next thing you need to do is learn how to quote.  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 14, 2020, 09:32:10 PM
Next thing you need to do is learn how to quote.  :rollin

Lol!  Should have looked at the preview first.  All fixed.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2020, 11:23:03 PM
All fixed.

It is?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2020, 11:27:28 PM
Once I have developed a good habit running and things are going well, then I will begin adjusting my food.

Why wait?  Star adjusting now.  Start by taking out one thing that you eat that is bad.  Soft drink, that nightly piece of chocolate.  A scoop less ice cream, one less of anything you shouldn't be eating.  That's the start and then you could work from there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 15, 2020, 07:00:20 AM
All fixed.

It is?
I didn't want to make the post too long, but I also wanted to thank everyone so that's why I did it the way I did.  But it was a mess before I fixed it.

Once I have developed a good habit running and things are going well, then I will begin adjusting my food.

Why wait?  Star adjusting now.  Start by taking out one thing that you eat that is bad.  Soft drink, that nightly piece of chocolate.  A scoop less ice cream, one less of anything you shouldn't be eating.  That's the start and then you could work from there.
Mostly, I don't want to change too many things at once and get overwhelmed.  I want to make sure what I'm doing is sustainable for the long haul.

I do want to change food also, but I need to do some more thinking about it and figure out a good iterative plan that I know I will be able to stick to.

My wife is a really good cook and when it comes to my regular meals I don't think there is a whole lot to change.  The largest downside to my diet is my sugar intake.  But that is my fault.  However, since I began working from home that has been a lot easier to curb.

But, I do have some work to do on my breakfasts.  Right now they are only carbs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: WilliamMunny on January 15, 2020, 09:09:22 AM
All fixed.

It is?
I didn't want to make the post too long, but I also wanted to thank everyone so that's why I did it the way I did.  But it was a mess before I fixed it.

Once I have developed a good habit running and things are going well, then I will begin adjusting my food.

Why wait?  Star adjusting now.  Start by taking out one thing that you eat that is bad.  Soft drink, that nightly piece of chocolate.  A scoop less ice cream, one less of anything you shouldn't be eating.  That's the start and then you could work from there.
Mostly, I don't want to change too many things at once and get overwhelmed.  I want to make sure what I'm doing is sustainable for the long haul.

I do want to change food also, but I need to do some more thinking about it and figure out a good iterative plan that I know I will be able to stick to.

My wife is a really good cook and when it comes to my regular meals I don't think there is a whole lot to change.  The largest downside to my diet is my sugar intake.  But that is my fault.  However, since I began working from home that has been a lot easier to curb.

But, I do have some work to do on my breakfasts.  Right now they are only carbs.

Echoing what others have said, I would advise you dive head first into nutrition. Take it from a life-long exercise/diet nut, nutrition is the key to everything...you can't outrun or outlift a bad diet.

I've had numerous friends 'talk' about and 'plan' the changes they need to make for years, all the while just getting more and more out of shape. Once you hit your mid-30's, time is always ticking, so I'd strongly advise anyone who's thinking about getting back in shape to start yesterday!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on January 15, 2020, 10:32:36 AM
Anyone try this website? -- pretty cool for setting strength goals! https://symmetricstrength.com/

I'm just getting back to things so I'm not going to post my stats now, but when I was in shape I think my Squats and Deadlifts were in the low Intermediate range and my Bench and Chin-Ups were in the low Proficient tier. I hope to get all my lifts into the Proficient range this year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2020, 01:51:29 PM
All fixed.

It is?
I didn't want to make the post too long, but I also wanted to thank everyone so that's why I did it the way I did.  But it was a mess before I fixed it.

Once I have developed a good habit running and things are going well, then I will begin adjusting my food.

Why wait?  Star adjusting now.  Start by taking out one thing that you eat that is bad.  Soft drink, that nightly piece of chocolate.  A scoop less ice cream, one less of anything you shouldn't be eating.  That's the start and then you could work from there.
Mostly, I don't want to change too many things at once and get overwhelmed.  I want to make sure what I'm doing is sustainable for the long haul.

I do want to change food also, but I need to do some more thinking about it and figure out a good iterative plan that I know I will be able to stick to.

My wife is a really good cook and when it comes to my regular meals I don't think there is a whole lot to change.  The largest downside to my diet is my sugar intake.  But that is my fault.  However, since I began working from home that has been a lot easier to curb.

But, I do have some work to do on my breakfasts.  Right now they are only carbs.

Echoing what others have said, I would advise you dive head first into nutrition. Take it from a life-long exercise/diet nut, nutrition is the key to everything...you can't outrun or outlift a bad diet.

I've had numerous friends 'talk' about and 'plan' the changes they need to make for years, all the while just getting more and more out of shape. Once you hit your mid-30's, time is always ticking, so I'd strongly advise anyone who's thinking about getting back in shape to start yesterday!

Yeah, heard so many times, I'm going to do this and going to start this.......well......when? haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 15, 2020, 02:44:45 PM
Echoing what others have said, I would advise you dive head first into nutrition. Take it from a life-long exercise/diet nut, nutrition is the key to everything...you can't outrun or outlift a bad diet.

Yeah, heard so many times, I'm going to do this and going to start this.......well......when? haha.

I agree with the both of you.  But if I jump all in, I will end up drowning and I'll just get discouraged.  That's what happened last year with my efforts to go without sugar.  Once the pounds stopped coming off I got discouraged and gave up.

I'm a big guy and have been away from excersize for a long time.  This is a big ship I need to turn around.

I want success, so about a month ago I did some research on how to stay committed and faithful to my goals.  And the advice was fairly consistant; small, easy to follow, measurable steps.  That is why I chose jogging.

For one, I picked something I used to like that way I wouldn't hate doing it.  And I purposefully wear my jogging clothes until lunch when I go run, that way I have little excuse when my alarm goes off and reminds me.

Then I made a plan to run a mile by the end of the year.  That is easily measurable and can be divided into smaller mile stones for myself.  This is something I can have almost complete control over the outcome, loosing weight, I found out last year, I didn't have as much control over as I thought.

So this year my goal is distance and not weight loss.  However, some weight loss may end up being a side benefit, but it's not the goal.

Like I said though, nutrition may also come into play during this year, but I want to make sure I have developed a good habit and am making consistant headway towards my distance goal.

And, I want my nutrition goal to work much the same way. Small, easy to follow, measurable steps.

In other words, I can't eat a whole elephant at once, so instead I'm eating it one bite at a time.  :)  Going this route will take me a few years to get myself back to the way I used to look, but I'm OK with that.  It's certainly progress forward and considerably better than I have done during the past 15 years or so.

I hope all this makes sense.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 15, 2020, 03:14:31 PM
NL... I was pretty much in this same boat as you in 2005.  240lbs, and wanting to drop the weight.  I started exercising (stationary bike).  After a month, nothing.  Nada.  Zip.  Bubkiss.  It was kinda demoralizing.  Then, an epiphany.  Weight-loss is fairly simple formula - burn more calories than you consume.  Do not ignore the 'calories in' portion of that equation.  Three very easy things I did to start with:

1 - Just eat smaller portion sizes... no need to change WHAT you eat, just eat less.  I remember reading that it takes 20 minutes for your brain to get the signal from your stomach that you're full.  So, I cut my portion size by 1/3rd, and stopped picking at the leftovers on the plates of mrs.jingle and jingle.kids.  If I was still hungry after a meal, I would wait 30 minutes before eating anything.  Invariably, 30 minutes later, I wasn't "still hungry".

2 - Don't drink your calories.  Not sure if your a Starbucks latte/cappuccino kinda guy, but those (and soft drinks as Wolfking eluded to) are worthless calories.  Don't waste your calories.

3 - Water.  Drink lots of water.  Another thing I read is that a lot of people confuse the feeling of hunger and the feeling of thirst.  Drinking lots of water not only increases metabolism, but it does contribute to satiation.

As *everyone* is saying, the sooner you take into account the calories-in side of things, the faster you'll see results.  My experience was actually pretty discouraging UNTIL I started paying attention to the nutrition side of things.

And truthfully, I need to get back there.  I'm trying to get to 10% BF, and been hovering at about 14.5% for a year or so - and I KNOW it's my nutrition that is preventing me from getting where I want to be.  William's comment was spot on - you can't out-work a bad diet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2020, 04:05:09 PM
Echoing what others have said, I would advise you dive head first into nutrition. Take it from a life-long exercise/diet nut, nutrition is the key to everything...you can't outrun or outlift a bad diet.

Yeah, heard so many times, I'm going to do this and going to start this.......well......when? haha.

I agree with the both of you.  But if I jump all in, I will end up drowning and I'll just get discouraged.  That's what happened last year with my efforts to go without sugar.  Once the pounds stopped coming off I got discouraged and gave up.

I'm a big guy and have been away from excersize for a long time.  This is a big ship I need to turn around.

I want success, so about a month ago I did some research on how to stay committed and faithful to my goals.  And the advice was fairly consistant; small, easy to follow, measurable steps.  That is why I chose jogging.

For one, I picked something I used to like that way I wouldn't hate doing it.  And I purposefully wear my jogging clothes until lunch when I go run, that way I have little excuse when my alarm goes off and reminds me.

Then I made a plan to run a mile by the end of the year.  That is easily measurable and can be divided into smaller mile stones for myself.  This is something I can have almost complete control over the outcome, loosing weight, I found out last year, I didn't have as much control over as I thought.

So this year my goal is distance and not weight loss.  However, some weight loss may end up being a side benefit, but it's not the goal.

Like I said though, nutrition may also come into play during this year, but I want to make sure I have developed a good habit and am making consistant headway towards my distance goal.

And, I want my nutrition goal to work much the same way. Small, easy to follow, measurable steps.

In other words, I can't eat a whole elephant at once, so instead I'm eating it one bite at a time.  :)  Going this route will take me a few years to get myself back to the way I used to look, but I'm OK with that.  It's certainly progress forward and considerably better than I have done during the past 15 years or so.

I hope all this makes sense.

I've been there too mate.  Lost about 45kg (100lbs) myself over the years.  You're right, it's not easy.  And it takes time.  The food is difficult, you need to shift your lifestyle totally and really do a complete 180 with what you eat day in, day out.  It's actually pretty easy to lose weight, but keeping it off long term is where people struggle.  That's why I think you need to slowly change what you eat.  Once you make progress, get some understanding and get a bit fitter and a bit more active, you will have the freedom to add things in here and there.

In relation to upping the activity and focusing more on that than weight loss, that could go either way.  You still need to have some control on your food.  If you want to get fitter and increase your distance in running etc., you'll need better options to eat daily and lose some weight.  To get fitter, faster and go further, that comes with the fuel you eat and how heavy you are too.  If the weight loss comes due to the extra activity without you changing much, that's good but may put you in a bit of a false sense of security.

As Chad said, cut down your portions, that's a great place to start.  But start being mindful and think about what you eat more.  It takes, willpower, strength and the want to do it.  I found the real want to do it came with time.  I was half hearted for a long time, but the more I started to lose, the more motivated I became. 

I think the key here is, If you DON'T start changing your diet now, than you may not see any results even with the extra activity and that will discourage you and you may give up anyway.  You need to see some results to keep you going.
Title: !
Post by: Northern Lion on January 15, 2020, 04:33:43 PM
Thanks Jingle!

Some of those things you mentioned I'm already doing such as drinking a lot of water.  That has been a habit of mine for many years.  I don't drink soda unless I go out to eat, but if there was one good thing that came out of my sugar fast this past year it was being able to kick the soda habbit, so I don't even get soda when I go out to eat anymore.  Also, I don't drink coffee or tea anyway so no worry there.

I could stand to eat a little less at meal time, and I like your strategy.

My largest weekness by a country mile has been sweets.  I developed a sweet tooth at a very young age and have been more-or-less addicted to them every since.  But it didn't start catching up with me until I stopped working out when I met my wife.  And I'm sure getting older was certainly part of that too.

When I began working from home, it actually helped a lot.  We don't keep sweets around the house, and there aren't any close by bakeries or anything.  So if I wanted a sweet, I'd need to make it myself, which I rarely do.

I only started working from home right before the holidays and so I won't really begin to know what effect it will have on my weight until a few months from now.

So, I guess I have made some changes over the past year, they have just been more circumstantial than anything else.

And, like I said before, my wife is a good cook and makes healthly meals for my family.  She isn't overweight at all and neither are any of my kids.  And because of that, they probably won't develope the same sweet tooth I have.  So hopefully they won't suffer the same struggles I have.

And just so all of you know, I'm not trying to make excuses.  It's just a big ship that will take a while to turn around.  And the fact that all of you have been so suportive and have offered good advice, tells me you want me to succeed.  That means a LOT.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 15, 2020, 04:44:59 PM
I've been there too mate.  Lost about 45kg (100lbs) myself over the years.  You're right, it's not easy.  And it takes time.  The food is difficult, you need to shift your lifestyle totally and really do a complete 180 with what you eat day in, day out.  It's actually pretty easy to lose weight, but keeping it off long term is where people struggle.  That's why I think you need to slowly change what you eat.  Once you make progress, get some understanding and get a bit fitter and a bit more active, you will have the freedom to add things in here and there.

In relation to upping the activity and focusing more on that than weight loss, that could go either way.  You still need to have some control on your food.  If you want to get fitter and increase your distance in running etc., you'll need better options to eat daily and lose some weight.  To get fitter, faster and go further, that comes with the fuel you eat and how heavy you are too.  If the weight loss comes due to the extra activity without you changing much, that's good but may put you in a bit of a false sense of security.

As Chad said, cut down your portions, that's a great place to start.  But start being mindful and think about what you eat more.  It takes, willpower, strength and the want to do it.  I found the real want to do it came with time.  I was half hearted for a long time, but the more I started to lose, the more motivated I became. 

I think the key here is, If you DON'T start changing your diet now, than you may not see any results even with the extra activity and that will discourage you and you may give up anyway.  You need to see some results to keep you going.

I see what you mean now.  Gotcha!  I guess I've become a bit hesitant because of my failure last year.  Although, I didn't gain all the weight back that I lost, I did gain back about 2/3rds of it.

The heaviest I've ever been was 293.  It scared me that I might pass 300.  So I lost a little and maintained 285 for several years.  That's what I started at last year.  This year I am starting at 275.

And you're right, I need to be "all in" in order to make a lasting change and not half hearted.  It is encouraging to hear a few success stories of folks who have been where I am and have successfully lost the weight, got in shape and basically stayed that way.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 15, 2020, 08:28:16 PM
Absolutely we all want everyone to succeed.  Accountability is a big piece of success, imo... so that's what I'm here for. When I first lost my weight (from 240 down to 185ish), I kept it off for the most part for almost 10 years.  Gradually (during the worst years of my depression), I ended up creeping up to 215ish.  I got back down to 176 about a year ago, but am back up in the low 180s.  Goal is to be in the mid 170s and 10% BF by the time I hit 50.  I got just under 2 years to get there.

@ Kade... shit dude, I didn't know you were a fat bastard man!   :rollin  I always thought you were a guy in good shape!

I got back on the bandwagon tonight.  I was pretty diligent over the holidays - actually getting in 2 workouts per day (one weight or HIIT; one session on the bike) to account for the extra food and drink.  Held up pretty good - virtually stayed flat on my weight and BF.  Last week while traveling for work ... not so much.  Only got 2 light workouts in.  Tonight, started month 2 of a p90x cycle - chest/shoulders/tris.  And man am I feeling it - in a good way.

Been doing Yoga once a week, and trying to stretch daily.  You younglings out there take note ... you'll have to do it soon enough too.  Gary will back me up here.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2020, 08:34:10 PM
I've been there too mate.  Lost about 45kg (100lbs) myself over the years.  You're right, it's not easy.  And it takes time.  The food is difficult, you need to shift your lifestyle totally and really do a complete 180 with what you eat day in, day out.  It's actually pretty easy to lose weight, but keeping it off long term is where people struggle.  That's why I think you need to slowly change what you eat.  Once you make progress, get some understanding and get a bit fitter and a bit more active, you will have the freedom to add things in here and there.

In relation to upping the activity and focusing more on that than weight loss, that could go either way.  You still need to have some control on your food.  If you want to get fitter and increase your distance in running etc., you'll need better options to eat daily and lose some weight.  To get fitter, faster and go further, that comes with the fuel you eat and how heavy you are too.  If the weight loss comes due to the extra activity without you changing much, that's good but may put you in a bit of a false sense of security.

As Chad said, cut down your portions, that's a great place to start.  But start being mindful and think about what you eat more.  It takes, willpower, strength and the want to do it.  I found the real want to do it came with time.  I was half hearted for a long time, but the more I started to lose, the more motivated I became. 

I think the key here is, If you DON'T start changing your diet now, than you may not see any results even with the extra activity and that will discourage you and you may give up anyway.  You need to see some results to keep you going.

I see what you mean now.  Gotcha!  I guess I've become a bit hesitant because of my failure last year.  Although, I didn't gain all the weight back that I lost, I did gain back about 2/3rds of it.

The heaviest I've ever been was 293.  It scared me that I might pass 300.  So I lost a little and maintained 285 for several years.  That's what I started at last year.  This year I am starting at 275.

And you're right, I need to be "all in" in order to make a lasting change and not half hearted.  It is encouraging to hear a few success stories of folks who have been where I am and have successfully lost the weight, got in shape and basically stayed that way.

It takes time man.  As we said and you said, small steps.  I will say it's good that you are saying that you can't and haven't made a change.  Be true and real to yourself is my other piece of advice.  Some people cheat themselves and lie and say they are eating good when they are clearly not.  At least you are not doing that and lying to yourself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2020, 09:32:34 PM
Absolutely we all want everyone to succeed.  Accountability is a big piece of success, imo... so that's what I'm here for. When I first lost my weight (from 240 down to 185ish), I kept it off for the most part for almost 10 years.  Gradually (during the worst years of my depression), I ended up creeping up to 215ish.  I got back down to 176 about a year ago, but am back up in the low 180s.  Goal is to be in the mid 170s and 10% BF by the time I hit 50.  I got just under 2 years to get there.

@ Kade... shit dude, I didn't know you were a fat bastard man!   :rollin  I always thought you were a guy in good shape!

I got back on the bandwagon tonight.  I was pretty diligent over the holidays - actually getting in 2 workouts per day (one weight or HIIT; one session on the bike) to account for the extra food and drink.  Held up pretty good - virtually stayed flat on my weight and BF.  Last week while traveling for work ... not so much.  Only got 2 light workouts in.  Tonight, started month 2 of a p90x cycle - chest/shoulders/tris.  And man am I feeling it - in a good way.

Been doing Yoga once a week, and trying to stretch daily.  You younglings out there take note ... you'll have to do it soon enough too.  Gary will back me up here.

Yeah, I was a blob until about 28.  Had no background in anything fitness related.  It's been a long hard road but a very enjoyable one.  Very happy with where I'm at and where I'm heading.

Sounds like you are doing pretty good mate.  2 workouts a day is pretty full on.  When I finally get my ass over for a visit, we'll do a session together.  Tim can come too.  :D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Evermind on January 15, 2020, 09:55:45 PM
Holidays didn't go too bad for me, had a few big meals with the family but been getting back into rhythm for the past seven or so days and right now I'm at 151 lbs/68,6 kg and feeling pretty good (as opposed to 180 lbs in last September). Gonna maintain the diet for one more month until my short vacation in February and look into the local gyms after that.

One downside though, remember my rant when the post office didn't notify me and sent my package back? It was the new Vanden Plas album and a t-shirt I ordered back in September. Well, after all the hassle it finally arrived yesterday (which prompted me to make this post) and it's way too fucking huge for me. :lol Actually most of my metal t-shirts are too big now. I've to resort wearing my Blind Guardian shirt from At the Edge of Time tour. :lol

@ Kade... shit dude, I didn't know you were a fat bastard man!   :rollin  I always thought you were a guy in good shape!

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 15, 2020, 10:08:32 PM
I hear ya Ruslan... I have two batches of concert tee-shirts now.  My XL's which are really baggy on me, and my L's which are a pretty good fit.  I've got a couple of M's which fit a little too tight, but not quite sausage-tight.  Thing is, I'm 6'2", so I need the length as much as the overall girth.

Yeah yeah .... :heybaby: :eyebrows:

Get your minds out of the gutter.

Sounds like you are doing pretty good mate.  2 workouts a day is pretty full on.  When I finally get my ass over for a visit, we'll do a session together.  Tim can come too.  :D

I'm counting on it - not the Tim part, but getting sweaty with you.  Wait ... nevermind.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2020, 04:05:45 AM
Yeah, me too, it's annoying seeing all these cool t-shirts that can't be worn.

Huh, I too am 6'2" mate.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on January 16, 2020, 09:06:29 AM
Yeah, I was a blob until about 28.  Had no background in anything fitness related.  It's been a long hard road but a very enjoyable one.  Very happy with where I'm at and where I'm heading.
Wow, wolfy, I would have guessed you were younger, more like my age. (I'm 28 now, and I'm assuming you've been in the game for a few years.) I think it must be because you carry such a youthful optimism and energy. Cool to see. :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 16, 2020, 09:39:06 AM
I've also got the tshirt problem  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 16, 2020, 09:49:09 AM
On the subject of diet and fitness, my recent journey has reinforced that approach in unexpected ways. As you may recall, my motivation for the radical change in my diet was to climb down from the brink of type 2 diabetes. I just wanted my A1c's scores to go down...and they did. Dramatically. In the process I also shed 35 lbs in roughly four months (I'm currently down 40 lbs from where I began). I've had many positive feelings about the weight loss that wasn't my goal but has been a pleasant surprise.

The biggest surprise has been this past week though. I set some pretty modest workout goals involving yoga and weight lifting and exceeded them almost immediately! In order to get that "pleasant soreness" that (I assume) we all shoot for, I've really had to increase the number of yoga poses and double the length of time I hold said poses. As for the lifting, I've had to increase the reps and weight on nearly every set. Now, I've gone through all this before (about 10 years ago) and I really found it difficult to get this kind of progress when I started out at my heavy weight. I was forced to have way more drive and discipline than I do now. I attribute the ease, and commensurate enjoyment, of getting back into exercise directly to not having to fight against the extra body fat! My balance and endurance has been a huge surprise. I'm excited to improve them further.

I'm only sharing my journey to be part of the group here. Not to convince anyone of "my way", so take it with a grain of salt. I know I'm incredibly lucky to have found an eating philosophy that suits me to a tee and that I find enjoyable. Northern Lion, I truly hope you can find something similar.

Oh, and Wolfy, I've discovered that if I immediately eat a significant portion of protein and fat, generously salted, I bounce back pretty quickly from post workout exhaustion. Maybe 10 minutes. My energy throughout the day hasn't been significantly effected...that I can tell.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 16, 2020, 09:59:15 AM
Sharing your journey is motivation.   :yarr
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 16, 2020, 11:11:08 AM
Sharing your journey is motivation.   :yarr

Darn right it is!  Good on ya Gregg.
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Post by: The Walrus on January 16, 2020, 01:16:59 PM
I have some awesome news I am dying to share but can't for the time being, but let's just say I have found the biggest motivator I've had - ever - to work harder than ever in the gym. I've got most of the year to do it. Every night this week I've hit the gym for a couple hours, mostly cardio, and I was doing well in December too, so I'm on the upswing. Also since the start of the year I've forced myself to do 10 pushups and situps every time I lose a match in Smash Bros. which has made me a very sore but happy person  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2020, 01:29:14 PM
Yeah, I was a blob until about 28.  Had no background in anything fitness related.  It's been a long hard road but a very enjoyable one.  Very happy with where I'm at and where I'm heading.
Wow, wolfy, I would have guessed you were younger, more like my age. (I'm 28 now, and I'm assuming you've been in the game for a few years.) I think it must be because you carry such a youthful optimism and energy. Cool to see. :)

Thanks for the nice compliment.  You mustn't see all my posts however if you think I have a youthful optimism.  :lol  But this is very nice so I really appreciate it.  Yeah, 35 now going on 36 in May.
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2020, 01:35:48 PM
On the subject of diet and fitness, my recent journey has reinforced that approach in unexpected ways. As you may recall, my motivation for the radical change in my diet was to climb down from the brink of type 2 diabetes. I just wanted my A1c's scores to go down...and they did. Dramatically. In the process I also shed 35 lbs in roughly four months (I'm currently down 40 lbs from where I began). I've had many positive feelings about the weight loss that wasn't my goal but has been a pleasant surprise.

The biggest surprise has been this past week though. I set some pretty modest workout goals involving yoga and weight lifting and exceeded them almost immediately! In order to get that "pleasant soreness" that (I assume) we all shoot for, I've really had to increase the number of yoga poses and double the length of time I hold said poses. As for the lifting, I've had to increase the reps and weight on nearly every set. Now, I've gone through all this before (about 10 years ago) and I really found it difficult to get this kind of progress when I started out at my heavy weight. I was forced to have way more drive and discipline than I do now. I attribute the ease, and commensurate enjoyment, of getting back into exercise directly to not having to fight against the extra body fat! My balance and endurance has been a huge surprise. I'm excited to improve them further.

I'm only sharing my journey to be part of the group here. Not to convince anyone of "my way", so take it with a grain of salt. I know I'm incredibly lucky to have found an eating philosophy that suits me to a tee and that I find enjoyable. Northern Lion, I truly hope you can find something similar.

Oh, and Wolfy, I've discovered that if I immediately eat a significant portion of protein and fat, generously salted, I bounce back pretty quickly from post workout exhaustion. Maybe 10 minutes. My energy throughout the day hasn't been significantly effected...that I can tell.

That's good mate.  you've done well with the diabetes.  As with the exercise, it's always great to want to excel but setting realistic small goals in what you want to achieve is helpful.  When I started lifting I set unrealistic weight expectations I wanted to hit and was nowhere near them.  I would get discouraged, try and lift something harder and end up hurting myself.  As for the drive adn motivation, I find a better diet in turn motivates you in your workouts also.  They both go hand in hand.  Not to mention the less weight and overall better nutrition helps performance and attitude.  People really don't take notice on how much the type of food affects us all the way from a physical point and even a mental point IMO.

I've been a bit better this week.  See how my weekend goes.  I have been using quite a bit of that cracked pink salt too on most things.
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2020, 01:38:29 PM
I have some awesome news I am dying to share but can't for the time being, but let's just say I have found the biggest motivator I've had - ever - to work harder than ever in the gym. I've got most of the year to do it. Every night this week I've hit the gym for a couple hours, mostly cardio, and I was doing well in December too, so I'm on the upswing. Also since the start of the year I've forced myself to do 10 pushups and situps every time I lose a match in Smash Bros. which has made me a very sore but happy person  :lol

Why can't you share?
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Post by: The Walrus on January 16, 2020, 01:41:52 PM
I have some awesome news I am dying to share but can't for the time being, but let's just say I have found the biggest motivator I've had - ever - to work harder than ever in the gym. I've got most of the year to do it. Every night this week I've hit the gym for a couple hours, mostly cardio, and I was doing well in December too, so I'm on the upswing. Also since the start of the year I've forced myself to do 10 pushups and situps every time I lose a match in Smash Bros. which has made me a very sore but happy person  :lol

Why can't you share?

I'm not at liberty to discuss freely yet, just trust me... it's awesome, and if I look good, it'll be that much cooler. :corn
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 16, 2020, 01:43:02 PM
I have some awesome news I am dying to share but can't for the time being, but let's just say I have found the biggest motivator I've had - ever - to work harder than ever in the gym. I've got most of the year to do it. Every night this week I've hit the gym for a couple hours, mostly cardio, and I was doing well in December too, so I'm on the upswing. Also since the start of the year I've forced myself to do 10 pushups and situps every time I lose a match in Smash Bros. which has made me a very sore but happy person  :lol

Why can't you share?

I'm not at liberty to discuss freely yet, just trust me... it's awesome. :corn

You don't say!   :biggrin:
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Post by: The Walrus on January 16, 2020, 01:48:21 PM
 :hat

In due time... the tease will be worth it.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 16, 2020, 01:49:05 PM
Are you going to be a stripper during a performance at progpower?  :hat
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Post by: The Walrus on January 16, 2020, 01:50:11 PM
Are you going to be a stripper during a performance at progpower?  :hat

Damn it, Marc, now you've spoiled the surprise.  :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on January 16, 2020, 01:54:58 PM
 :lol ill make sure to have the camera rolling
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 16, 2020, 02:09:36 PM
On the subject of diet and fitness, my recent journey has reinforced that approach in unexpected ways. As you may recall, my motivation for the radical change in my diet was to climb down from the brink of type 2 diabetes. I just wanted my A1c's scores to go down...and they did. Dramatically. In the process I also shed 35 lbs in roughly four months (I'm currently down 40 lbs from where I began). I've had many positive feelings about the weight loss that wasn't my goal but has been a pleasant surprise.

The biggest surprise has been this past week though. I set some pretty modest workout goals involving yoga and weight lifting and exceeded them almost immediately! In order to get that "pleasant soreness" that (I assume) we all shoot for, I've really had to increase the number of yoga poses and double the length of time I hold said poses. As for the lifting, I've had to increase the reps and weight on nearly every set. Now, I've gone through all this before (about 10 years ago) and I really found it difficult to get this kind of progress when I started out at my heavy weight. I was forced to have way more drive and discipline than I do now. I attribute the ease, and commensurate enjoyment, of getting back into exercise directly to not having to fight against the extra body fat! My balance and endurance has been a huge surprise. I'm excited to improve them further.

I'm only sharing my journey to be part of the group here. Not to convince anyone of "my way", so take it with a grain of salt. I know I'm incredibly lucky to have found an eating philosophy that suits me to a tee and that I find enjoyable. Northern Lion, I truly hope you can find something similar.

Oh, and Wolfy, I've discovered that if I immediately eat a significant portion of protein and fat, generously salted, I bounce back pretty quickly from post workout exhaustion. Maybe 10 minutes. My energy throughout the day hasn't been significantly effected...that I can tell.

Very motivating story!  I don't have diabetes as far as I know (I do get checked every few years) but my Dad does, and several of my uncles do and my grandparents did. Not to mention plenty of heart attacks on that side of the family as well.  So I'm staring down that gun barrel.

When I began last year with a sugar fast, I had finally got sick and tired of what I had allowed myself to become.  My wife is still in good shape even after having all our kids.  All the while I just kept getting fatter and fatter.  I've been disgusted with myself for several years.

I was very disapointed with my failure last year, but after a few months I got back up and started a different approach.

I really want my wife and kids to be proud of me.

I really hope I can stay motivated this time.  So far I have really liked the jogging and I know it's doing something because I am feeling sore (the good kind)


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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2020, 02:23:29 PM
I've been disgusted with myself for several years.

I was very disapointed with my failure last year

I really want my wife and kids to be proud of me.

There's your motivation right there mate.  Give yourself no other option but success.  I think you're in the position now where you just need to stop overthinking everything.  Just dig in mate, fire up and get it done.  You've made a good start, don't give yourself the option to fail again.
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Post by: Northern Lion on January 16, 2020, 04:19:30 PM
I've been disgusted with myself for several years.

I was very disapointed with my failure last year

I really want my wife and kids to be proud of me.

There's your motivation right there mate.  Give yourself no other option but success.  I think you're in the position now where you just need to stop overthinking everything.  Just dig in mate, fire up and get it done.  You've made a good start, don't give yourself the option to fail again.


 :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2020, 03:01:31 PM
After week 2 I've adjusted pretty well with the diet.  Although, I can't help myself on the weekend.  I've cut back on the sugar I would eat on the weekend however significantly.  Replacing Ben and Jerry with Halo Top, replacing cakes and things like that with protein bars, replacing large frappes with cream with a simple almond latte, although a few chocolates still creep in.  Nevertheless, my swim was great on the weekend, but the run yesterday was very tough.  Better than the week before but still hard.

I found myself dropping around half a kg again this week like last week.  I do think a bit of this is still water and body fat as my strength last week was solid.  See how I go but really enjoying the diet and I think the weekends are satisfying me without putting me back like it use to.
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Post by: Snow Dog on January 19, 2020, 09:46:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pMQXojr.jpg)

Ran marathon #4 today. Felt good through 10.5 miles, and then the hills until mile 14 just brutalized me. But still ran my fastest marathon yet, even taking 3rd place in my age group (which was surprising).

It’s also cool to see the stories here of people getting more active and eating better. Keep it up, guys!
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Post by: SchecterShredder on January 20, 2020, 06:34:02 AM
Great race! As vet of a dozen marathons, i think finishing 3rd in your age group is fantastic.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 20, 2020, 08:18:10 AM
That's quite the achievement  :yarr

Just did a 6 mile bike ride to wake up and weighed myself for the first time in awhile.  Down to 192lbs.  I hadn't been weighing myself much at all through my "get into shape" journey as it's not a numbers game for me, but about being in better shape and feeling better.  Of course the numbers help and keep me motivated.  It only gets harder to keep losing the pounds, but being I was at least at 230 when I started, to still see some progress is really awesome and shows my hard work is paying off.  I was 195 around the holidays when I last checked so I'm back in business of dropping weight.  I'm pretty happy to see I've gone down a bit. 
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2020, 08:50:03 AM
Awesome stuff guys.  Marc... great attitude.  I'm mostly of the same view - don't care what the number says, frankly... it's all about what the mirror tells me.  The scale is nice validation, and good feedback on making adjustments, but I'm not going to get too thrilled or bent out of shape about it one way or the other.

Didn't do much this weekend - had dinner out with a bunch of friends Friday night, then an icewine tour with the same group all day Saturday, and the Toronto Blue Jays WinterFest with jingle.daughter yesterday (left at 7:30am, got home around 6:30).  I did a workout Sat morning (back/bi's) before the wine tour, but that was it.  Trying to figure out how/when I can squeeze something in today. Yoga is supposed to be on the schedule.  We'll see if I can hammer it in somewhere.
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Post by: Northern Lion on January 20, 2020, 09:15:51 AM

Ran marathon #4 today. Felt good through 10.5 miles, and then the hills until mile 14 just brutalized me. But still ran my fastest marathon yet, even taking 3rd place in my age group (which was surprising).

It’s also cool to see the stories here of people getting more active and eating better. Keep it up, guys!

That is amazing!  Good job.

The farthest I've ever run was a 5k back when I used to be in shape.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 20, 2020, 09:34:41 AM
Thanks Chad, a positive attitude really helps and its reciprical in a way.  You see results, you feel positive, you feel positive and youre motivated to make your next results.  Anyway, time for bike ride #2 now that my grocery shopping is done and my menu for today isn't exactly going to be the most healthy.  Going to make some cream cheese stuffed jalapenos, pork dumplings, and tacos  :lol (bunch of random leftovers from the weekend that I can cook with before they go bad).  Since I'm off from work though, it's a good day to get a few longer bike rides in and some dumbbell exercises. 

One more thing about the weight, I may be down but I can feel I've put on a small amount of muscle mass which is heavier so I'm probably even better off than just the weight when you consider the overall body of work. 
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Post by: gmillerdrake on January 20, 2020, 12:00:16 PM
Ran marathon #4 today. Felt good through 10.5 miles, and then the hills until mile 14 just brutalized me. But still ran my fastest marathon yet, even taking 3rd place in my age group (which was surprising).

It’s also cool to see the stories here of people getting more active and eating better. Keep it up, guys!

Nice work  :metal   I’ve only done (2) Fulls and my pace isn’t nearly fast enough to place. I plan I’m doing another one next year. I’ll be 45, my last one was when I was 40 and I recall when I hit mile 18 my legs started to get really mad at me. Ha ha  May shoot to just do one every 5 years as a goal but We will see how the future unfolds. Fantastic work though man, really good stuff.

I’m registered for a little 10k Trail Run on 2/23 then a Half Trail Marathon on 3/8. Might try to shoot for another half trail after that this year depending on how the body feels.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2020, 02:31:06 PM
Awesome stuff guys.  Marc... great attitude.  I'm mostly of the same view - don't care what the number says, frankly... it's all about what the mirror tells me.  The scale is nice validation, and good feedback on making adjustments, but I'm not going to get too thrilled or bent out of shape about it one way or the other.

Didn't do much this weekend - had dinner out with a bunch of friends Friday night, then an icewine tour with the same group all day Saturday, and the Toronto Blue Jays WinterFest with jingle.daughter yesterday (left at 7:30am, got home around 6:30).  I did a workout Sat morning (back/bi's) before the wine tour, but that was it.  Trying to figure out how/when I can squeeze something in today. Yoga is supposed to be on the schedule.  We'll see if I can hammer it in somewhere.

Friends?

(http://rentafriend.com/media/images/nivo/2.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
hahahaha  Actually, it's my one close friend I still have from my teenage years, and a bunch of couples that I casually know through him/his wife.  I'd say 1/2 of them I met for the first time on Friday.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2020, 07:45:19 PM
hahahaha  Actually, it's my one close friend I still have from my teenage years, and a bunch of couples that I casually know through him/his wife.  I'd say 1/2 of them I met for the first time on Friday.

Swinger party.  Nice.
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2020, 03:42:46 PM
Not normally a breakfast guy but have a bit of a later start and predicting a busy day so might not get time to eat later so just polished off some eggs, bacon and full fat cheese.  I haven't touched cheese voluntarily when cooking for years so was something different.  Cooked in some butter, medium eggs with the yolks still runny and a generous spinkle of cheese.  Mother of God that was simply amazing, I can't even begin to describe. 
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Post by: Podaar on January 21, 2020, 04:02:37 PM
Not normally a breakfast guy but have a bit of a later start and predicting a busy day so might not get time to eat later so just polished off some eggs, bacon and full fat cheese.  I haven't touched cheese voluntarily when cooking for years so was something different.  Cooked in some butter, medium eggs with the yolks still runny and a generous spinkle of cheese.  Mother of God that was simply amazing, I can't even begin to describe.

 :lol

I'll make that exact meal for dinner sometimes!
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Post by: cramx3 on January 21, 2020, 04:29:10 PM
That is a delicious breakfast, I too also had cut out cheese but eggs are one spot where I need cheese personally.
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Post by: Northern Lion on January 21, 2020, 04:31:07 PM
Not normally a breakfast guy but have a bit of a later start and predicting a busy day so might not get time to eat later so just polished off some eggs, bacon and full fat cheese.  I haven't touched cheese voluntarily when cooking for years so was something different.  Cooked in some butter, medium eggs with the yolks still runny and a generous spinkle of cheese.  Mother of God that was simply amazing, I can't even begin to describe.

Wow that sounds amazing!
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
Not normally a breakfast guy but have a bit of a later start and predicting a busy day so might not get time to eat later so just polished off some eggs, bacon and full fat cheese.  I haven't touched cheese voluntarily when cooking for years so was something different.  Cooked in some butter, medium eggs with the yolks still runny and a generous spinkle of cheese.  Mother of God that was simply amazing, I can't even begin to describe.

 :lol

I'll make that exact meal for dinner sometimes!

It was on the smaller side, only 3 eggs, 4 rashes and a decent sprinkle of cheese, probably around 600 calories but so amazing.  Been eating bacon and eggs more but a bit of cheese just sends it over the edge.  This is becoming a new staple, dinner too.  For dinner I'll throw a good handful of green beans in the pan too and it will be perfect.  More eggs and bacon too obviously for dinner time.


Not normally a breakfast guy but have a bit of a later start and predicting a busy day so might not get time to eat later so just polished off some eggs, bacon and full fat cheese.  I haven't touched cheese voluntarily when cooking for years so was something different.  Cooked in some butter, medium eggs with the yolks still runny and a generous spinkle of cheese.  Mother of God that was simply amazing, I can't even begin to describe.

Wow that sounds amazing!

Indeed, yet so simple and quick.

That is a delicious breakfast, I too also had cut out cheese but eggs are one spot where I need cheese personally.

I didn't cut out cheese for any specific reason, I just have never been a big fan of cheese in general.  I think it's somewhat perhaps overused in modern society but just a little bit was enough to send an amazing meal into top tier territory.  Unless you have a intolerance, you don't have to cut specific foods mate, just portion them and be mindful of how much your using.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 21, 2020, 04:55:39 PM
Well cheese in general is extra calories (~80-100 calories a slice) that in many cases I can cut without it bothering me.  Like tacos for example.  I make turkey tacos without cheese or sour cream that are still pretty good compared to a beef taco with cheese and/or sour cream.  In eggs, I need a slice of american cheese to want to eat the eggs and it makes it so much better that it's worht the calories.  So I can cut in some spots, but not worth it in others like this case.  I still make eggs for brunch on the weekends too.  Omelette with peppers onions tomato and american cheese.  So good and nice high protein meal.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2020, 05:00:12 PM
Just the thought of trying keto diet is :drool:  But, I really don't see how it would work for mrs.jingle - she has food/body issues, and I know she just couldn't wrap her head around a high fat diet.

So, I just try to eat a traditional / sensible 40/40/20 split, trying to avoid processed foods and simple carbs.

Off to the workout room - maybe cardio if mrs.jingle is joining me.  Legs/back otherwise.
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2020, 06:52:40 PM
Well cheese in general is extra calories (~80-100 calories a slice) that in many cases I can cut without it bothering me.  Like tacos for example.  I make turkey tacos without cheese or sour cream that are still pretty good compared to a beef taco with cheese and/or sour cream.  In eggs, I need a slice of american cheese to want to eat the eggs and it makes it so much better that it's worht the calories.  So I can cut in some spots, but not worth it in others like this case.  I still make eggs for brunch on the weekends too.  Omelette with peppers onions tomato and american cheese.  So good and nice high protein meal.

That was sort of the same mindset  mate and not a big cheese lover made that even easier.  Burritos and tacos if I ever eat them, I never seem to miss the cheese at all.
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2020, 06:53:23 PM
Just the thought of trying keto diet is :drool:  But, I really don't see how it would work for mrs.jingle - she has food/body issues, and I know she just couldn't wrap her head around a high fat diet.

So, I just try to eat a traditional / sensible 40/40/20 split, trying to avoid processed foods and simple carbs.

Off to the workout room - maybe cardio if mrs.jingle is joining me.  Legs/back otherwise.

Why would you both have to do it?
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2020, 11:14:11 PM
I'm not entirely interested in making 3 or 4 different dishes at dinner time. Jingle.kids aleady have different tastes then us, it's bad enough making 2 or 3 different dishes. Rarely are we just making 1 type of meal that everyone eats.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 04:12:03 AM
Fair enough.  Cooking one type of meal alone is a pain in the ass in the first place.
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Post by: Podaar on January 22, 2020, 06:13:20 AM
Ya'll are crazy. I practically live on cheese... one of the benefits of full on keto, I've never had to count a calorie. I literally can't eat enough high fat foods to make a caloric difference. It's too rich. Portions about the size of my fist are satisfying to the point that any more would make me sick.

Oh, good. This thread is turning into a cooking klatch! I'm about to throw a couple pounds of chicken thighs in the crock pot, liberally seasoned with salt, pepper, oregano, basil, and rosemary. Toss a handful of sun-dried tomatoes on top. Cover all and sundry with a garlic, Parmesan, cream sauce. Set the slow cooker to low and when I get home...serve on a bead of mashed cauliflower...heaven!

I would put this simple keto meal up against any other home cooking and would easily be proud to serve it, along with a green salad, to any guest. Keto dishes aren't just for people on the diet.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 22, 2020, 06:18:06 AM
That dish sounds good to me.

In fact, I've migrated to eating chicken thighs most nights of the week including two last night that sound like they were seasoned very similar to yours, but I just baked the two of them instead of the slow cook.  Green beans on the side, but if you could make a good cauliflower mash, I'm in.  My x made a terrible one but I've eaten some good ones out and about so I know it can be made right.
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Post by: Podaar on January 22, 2020, 06:27:55 AM
Love the green beans, Cram. Another keto staple...but not everyone does.

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Post by: cramx3 on January 22, 2020, 06:45:08 AM
Green beans are my go to veggie, I eat them often with my chicken thighs.  I've got another set of thighs marinated a bit differently and another batch of fresh green beans ready to be baked again tonight... and another different set for Thursday.  Friday I'll switch it up.  Now that is the boring but quick and easy meal prep for one person.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 02:12:59 PM
I fucking HATE chicken thighs.  I know they would be preferred because of the fat, but I just can't stand that meat.  Has to be breast all day for me.

I've never had to count a calorie. I literally can't eat enough high fat foods to make a caloric difference. It's too rich. Portions about the size of my fist are satisfying to the point that any more would make me sick.

Personally, I could challenge this very very easily.  Everyone is different though.  I have rough numbers going through e head everyday.  I'm actually hitting 2500 or so calories very very easily.  Some intermittent fasting has to come into play for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 22, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
I used to be a breast only guy, but last year I discovered the boneless thigh filets and it's been a life changer.  The fattier thighs make it more tasty but since it's fattier it's less healthy, but it's a smaller cut of meat so it kind of evens out.  At the end of the day, I've found grilling them with even little seasoning is still very appetizing.  My father also won't eat dark meat chicken.  It's not for everyone, but I don't know why it took me so long to really enjoy the thighs.

I did cheat today for lunch, I haven't gone out for lunch in so long that I didn't even know they built a popeyes down the street from work.  So I cheated and got just the new sandwich to taste it out.  It's all I've eaten today so it's not too bad of a cheat, but damn that was one good sandwich.  I see what the hype is about, although i certainly wouldn't wait in a crazy line for it. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 02:52:20 PM
I used to be a breast only guy, but last year I discovered the boneless thigh filets and it's been a life changer.  The fattier thighs make it more tasty but since it's fattier it's less healthy, but it's a smaller cut of meat so it kind of evens out.  At the end of the day, I've found grilling them with even little seasoning is still very appetizing.  My father also won't eat dark meat chicken.  It's not for everyone, but I don't know why it took me so long to really enjoy the thighs.

I did cheat today for lunch, I haven't gone out for lunch in so long that I didn't even know they built a popeyes down the street from work.  So I cheated and got just the new sandwich to taste it out.  It's all I've eaten today so it's not too bad of a cheat, but damn that was one good sandwich.  I see what the hype is about, although i certainly wouldn't wait in a crazy line for it.

If your caloric intake is still in check, it doesn't really matter what it is and it's not really a cheat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 22, 2020, 03:10:11 PM
Understood, but it's fast food with little of anything that's beneficial to me besides protein in the chicken.  If I eat a normal lite dinner I'll still be fine overall, but it's a cheat in my mind just because it's overall very unhealthy.  I kept away from fries or anything else besides the sandwich though to keep me in check for my daily calorie goals.  I've stopped counting awhile ago, so I haven't been so strict on my 1k calories a day during the week diet.  But at 700 calories they say (I'm surprised its not more) keeping a normal dinner of under 1k calories still has me under the 2k recommended amount.  I'd probably burn a bit of myself still after I do a bike ride tonight. I just think those 700 calories would be better for my body if it was in the form of oatmeal and bananas, but you are right, it's not really a cheat if I'm still in line overall.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 22, 2020, 03:21:26 PM

If your caloric intake is still in check, it doesn't really matter what it is and it's not really a cheat.

You basically just summed up my entire nutrition philosophy in one sentence lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
Understood, but it's fast food with little of anything that's beneficial to me besides protein in the chicken.  If I eat a normal lite dinner I'll still be fine overall, but it's a cheat in my mind just because it's overall very unhealthy.  I kept away from fries or anything else besides the sandwich though to keep me in check for my daily calorie goals.  I've stopped counting awhile ago, so I haven't been so strict on my 1k calories a day during the week diet.  But at 700 calories they say (I'm surprised its not more) keeping a normal dinner of under 1k calories still has me under the 2k recommended amount.  I'd probably burn a bit of myself still after I do a bike ride tonight. I just think those 700 calories would be better for my body if it was in the form of oatmeal and bananas, but you are right, it's not really a cheat if I'm still in line overall.

It won't make a skerrick of a difference mate.  Your body wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 22, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
From a weightloss perspective, yes, but from a nutritional perspective I find that hard to believe.  That popeyes is fried chicken, terrible for you.  Oatmeal has nothing bad in it for you.  My cholesterol might have something to say about this.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:28:53 PM
From a weightloss perspective, yes, but from a nutritional perspective I find that hard to believe.  That popeyes is fried chicken, terrible for you.  Oatmeal has nothing bad in it for you.  My cholesterol might have something to say about this.

From one single 700 calorie meal?  No way mate. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on January 22, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
Think about putting fuel in your car. You put in clean high quality fuel and it runs well. You put in shitty low quality or dirty fuel and it's not as good for your engine. Sure that one time compared to a lifetime's worth of it isn't much but it still matters what you put into your system. The quality and chemical makeup of what you're putting into your food absolutely matters even if it does fit within your daily caloric limit. You might not be able to tell externally what that one meal does to your body, and maybe your body itself doesn't even know - doesn't mean it isn't having some kind of effect, however.

I'll have to go dig up the stuff I was reading recently about this. I thought it was actually inconclusive as to whether or not it *does* matter that much in the end, but logically speaking, I'm with Marc on this because it stands to reason that if you put shit food into your body, it will be processed as the shit food it is; although your body can't tell it's not a head of lettuce, it'll tell you something's up when your stomach starts gurgling as you digest those preservatives in that Big Mac.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 04:00:01 PM
If the calories are the same then simply the macro nutrient breakdown would differ.  Obviously any fillers or preservatives that are in the fast food is obvious, but unless you are a supreme athlete and it's your profession, worrying about a single meal that is a one of and the effect it may have on your body and your health is so far over the top that it can border on an eating disorder if you are not careful and you keep thinking that way.  I've been there, I know.  Unless you are adding protein powder to the oats, you would be consuming more protein in the burger, and more carbs in the oats and banana.  Unless you have an adverse reaction straight away or there is something in the fast food that makes you ill, then if it's not a habit and you are not planning on it again, it's silly to worry about it or even think that way for a one of.

I've been there in the past where I've been hung up on eating something I shouldn't have outside of a cheat.  Even if I've made the calories equate out in the end, I would get so upset with myself and end up going overboard and even cutting more calories to try and negate any damage that was never there.  I agree fast food is bad and can't be avoided sometimes, but worrying about what you should have eaten instead later and beating yourself up will do you more harm in the long run.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 22, 2020, 06:03:21 PM
From a weightloss perspective, yes, but from a nutritional perspective I find that hard to believe.  That popeyes is fried chicken, terrible for you.  Oatmeal has nothing bad in it for you.  My cholesterol might have something to say about this.

From one single 700 calorie meal?  No way mate.

Sure, one single meal doesn't make or break anything, but being that I've eaten more than enough fast food that should be consumed in one life, even a small recognition of "I ate a shit meal" does matter to me IMO. 

And also, I'm not beating myself over it, just being honest with myself.  I had a shit meal and tried to limit it without the fries or a soda or anything else.  It's really not a big deal, but kind of glad I could just hold myself back a bit.  I honestly was thinking "how about two sandwiches instead of fries?"  :lol 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 23, 2020, 06:13:49 AM
I fucking HATE chicken thighs.  I know they would be preferred because of the fat, but I just can't stand that meat.  Has to be breast all day for me.

Well, the Tuscan chicken thighs I made were terrific, but I promise, if you join us next time I'll use chicken breasts!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2020, 08:35:57 AM
On the topic of what *kind* of calories, I'm with both mind-sets here.  For ONE meal, it doesn't really make any difference.  Key part ... one meal.  So long as that "one meal" isn't every day, or even a few times a week.  On the other hand, eat 1500 calories of chocolate, and 1500 calories of broccoli, and let me know if your body notices the difference.  Obviously, I'm being facetious and extreme, but at some point, the kinds of calories absolutely do matter.

I read recently that most normal people eat anywhere between 21 and 35 meals a week.  So, if you eat clean for 19/21, or 32/35, you're still running at a 90% success rate.

So yeah, don't fret too much about a single reward meal, but don't let them get out of hand.  That goes for reward "snacks" too.  This is a bad time of year around the jingle.household, as there's lots of little candies and things that showed up around the holidays.  I still have some maple fudge, and Ghiradelli chocolates sitting around.  So tempting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2020, 03:42:34 PM
I fucking HATE chicken thighs.  I know they would be preferred because of the fat, but I just can't stand that meat.  Has to be breast all day for me.

Well, the Tuscan chicken thighs I made were terrific, but I promise, if you join us next time I'll use chicken breasts!

If I join you mate, I'll happily try your thighs.   :tup  the chicken should be alright too.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2020, 03:42:56 PM
On the topic of what *kind* of calories, I'm with both mind-sets here.  For ONE meal, it doesn't really make any difference.  Key part ... one meal.  So long as that "one meal" isn't every day, or even a few times a week.  On the other hand, eat 1500 calories of chocolate, and 1500 calories of broccoli, and let me know if your body notices the difference.  Obviously, I'm being facetious and extreme, but at some point, the kinds of calories absolutely do matter.

I read recently that most normal people eat anywhere between 21 and 35 meals a week.  So, if you eat clean for 19/21, or 32/35, you're still running at a 90% success rate.

So yeah, don't fret too much about a single reward meal, but don't let them get out of hand.  That goes for reward "snacks" too.  This is a bad time of year around the jingle.household, as there's lots of little candies and things that showed up around the holidays.  I still have some maple fudge, and Ghiradelli chocolates sitting around.  So tempting.

Thank you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 23, 2020, 04:33:49 PM
I fucking HATE chicken thighs.  I know they would be preferred because of the fat, but I just can't stand that meat.  Has to be breast all day for me.

Well, the Tuscan chicken thighs I made were terrific, but I promise, if you join us next time I'll use chicken breasts!

If I join you mate, I'll happily try your thighs.   :tup  the chicken should be alright too.  ;D

 :hat  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 25, 2020, 08:07:35 AM
If I join you mate, I'll happily try your thighs.

I'll shower up.


Feeling well worn as I drink my protein/recovery drink. I had a great round with the yoga and weights this morning...really going after my balance, legs, glutes, and core for that effortless extra power in my golf swing. Ended the lifting with some extra sets in my shoulders, back and chest. Finished everything of with some great stretches.

I'm ready to potato the rest of my day guilt free.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 25, 2020, 08:15:26 AM
Rock on  :metal

On my bike now, got to get a good work out in since I think I'll be eating good tonight with my date who's coming over to cook some sausage with me from my Sopranos cook book.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 25, 2020, 08:33:26 AM
Rock on  :metal

On my bike now, got to get a good work out in since I think I'll be eating good tonight with my date who's coming over to cook some sausage with me from my Sopranos cook book.

I'll bet she is... :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2020, 10:13:03 AM
who's coming over to cook some sausage with me

That's fantastic!... but what's for dinner?

Just about to have my pre-workout (PB&Banana protein shake), then hit a p90x (chest/shoulders/tri) routine.  Man I love that one.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 25, 2020, 10:23:45 AM
 :lol

I guess I can add that I'll likely have a different type of work out later to go with the sausage  :hat
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2020, 01:23:08 PM
What have I walked into?  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2020, 01:30:16 PM
What have I walked into?  :lol

It's not the Hobby/Project thread.  Or, maybe it is.  lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2020, 01:48:29 PM
My third week of this very low carb/keto thing was a mix of week one and two.  Some points I felt great but other points felt shit.  I really like the eating through the week so will keep at it.  Changes in my stomach fat area are happening so so far so good.  Had a bit of a carb refeed last night though.  I find with the amount of activity I can't go through a whole week without changing it up and refeeding with some carbs.  Mentally too.  The 5 days per week of extremely low carbs is sitting well with me though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Northern Lion on January 25, 2020, 05:43:59 PM
Well, so far breasts, thighs and sausage have been discussed.  Proof positive that the only thing men think about is... food :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2020, 05:07:01 AM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 26, 2020, 06:43:30 AM
I would recommend, Simply Keto by Suzanne Ryan. It gives all the ins and outs in detail, but more than that, it has her inspirational story, as well as advise for meal planning, macro tracking (which I don't do at all), motivation, and best of all simple and delicious recipes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2020, 06:44:55 AM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.

Hmmm...this could go one of two ways...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2020, 09:05:20 AM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.

Hmmm...this could go one of two ways...

Agreed ... but it's not like I'm buying her a vacuum cleaner or a 6-pack of Pledge  :lol. she's bounced the idea of Keto around a couple times, so I don't think it's *too* risky.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2020, 09:28:15 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2020, 09:29:01 AM
I'm kidding. I've bought my wife all kinds or equipment. She loves to exercise. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: H2 on January 26, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
My third week of this very low carb/keto thing was a mix of week one and two.  Some points I felt great but other points felt shit.  I really like the eating through the week so will keep at it.  Changes in my stomach fat area are happening so so far so good.  Had a bit of a carb refeed last night though.  I find with the amount of activity I can't go through a whole week without changing it up and refeeding with some carbs.  Mentally too.  The 5 days per week of extremely low carbs is sitting well with me though.
Nice man - that's cool to hear that you're keeping at it and seeing results. Cutting sucks so much bro. It's hard in the wrong sort of way. Like, lifting heavy things and pushing yourself athletically is hard, but it leaves you with a satisfying feeling of exhaustion. But cutting especially with lo-carb just makes you feel bad. In my experience, anyway.

I've managed to keep the weight off since stopping keto, but am getting the strength back up. Feeling closer and closer to my best self which existed 4 years ago, where I was lifting and doing cardio in a great balance and felt pretty happy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.

Fuck dude, is this a secret kamikaze mission you've been given.  Good lord, you're a smart man, you really think this is a good idea?  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2020, 02:52:24 PM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.

Hmmm...this could go one of two ways...

Agreed ... but it's not like I'm buying her a vacuum cleaner or a 6-pack of Pledge  :lol. she's bounced the idea of Keto around a couple times, so I don't think it's *too* risky.

Maybe make sure you buy lots of jewelry also then.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
My third week of this very low carb/keto thing was a mix of week one and two.  Some points I felt great but other points felt shit.  I really like the eating through the week so will keep at it.  Changes in my stomach fat area are happening so so far so good.  Had a bit of a carb refeed last night though.  I find with the amount of activity I can't go through a whole week without changing it up and refeeding with some carbs.  Mentally too.  The 5 days per week of extremely low carbs is sitting well with me though.
Nice man - that's cool to hear that you're keeping at it and seeing results. Cutting sucks so much bro. It's hard in the wrong sort of way. Like, lifting heavy things and pushing yourself athletically is hard, but it leaves you with a satisfying feeling of exhaustion. But cutting especially with lo-carb just makes you feel bad. In my experience, anyway.

I've managed to keep the weight off since stopping keto, but am getting the strength back up. Feeling closer and closer to my best self which existed 4 years ago, where I was lifting and doing cardio in a great balance and felt pretty happy.

It's a real balancing act mate.  I'm just trying to be sensible and intuitive.  So far so good. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2020, 06:16:59 PM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.

Fuck dude, is this a secret kamikaze mission you've been given. 

 :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2020, 02:35:30 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2020, 02:37:21 AM
mrs.jingle's b-day is coming up, and I'm seriously considering getting her a couple of Keto books.  I really am interested to try it (short-term), and based on Gregg's commentary, it might be the thing for her for a longer-period.  She's been going thru 'the change' for a while, and her body is really changing on her.  No immediate health issues, but weight gain, and general moodiness have contributed to some ongoing depression.  Plus, she has no drive to exercise due to various other ailments and said emotional swings.  Perhaps a general overhaul of her diet is in order.

Fuck dude, is this a secret kamikaze mission you've been given. 

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

haha.  I realised in my shocked state at reading Chad's post I forgot the question mark.

I still love ya Chad.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2020, 05:09:57 AM
If I go thru with this, I'll report back mid-next week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 27, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
If I go thru with this, I'll report back mid-next week.

If you go through with this, you’ll be posting from divorce court mid next week!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Evermind on January 27, 2020, 09:45:58 AM
Yeah, count me among people who don't think this is a good idea. :) It's your wife though so I'm sure you know what you're doing... maybe.

Waiting for the report!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2020, 01:25:32 PM
If I go thru with this, I'll report back mid-next week.

Big nuts if you do mate.


If I go thru with this, I'll report back mid-next week.

If you go through with this, you’ll be posting from divorce court mid next week!  :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2020, 02:12:07 PM
Normally, I'd tend to agree with you all.  But this has been an ongoing thing with her (food / weight issues) for like ... ever, but even moreso for the past 3-4 years.  She knows her body is changing on her in ways she doesn't like.  I'm not stuffed about it, but she is.  It's not like getting this will be interpreted as a hint from me that she's gettin pudgy - she already bemoans it of herself daily... usually multiple times a day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on January 27, 2020, 02:25:45 PM
Don't fall for it! :lol

You'll come home to a big ass bottle of Rogaine!



Just joshing with you Chad. Your initial post on the subject was kind of funny. A long as this is something you guys have talked abut then it's all good. Like I said, I've bought a shit ton of exercise stuff for my wife. But she's asked for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on January 27, 2020, 02:29:11 PM
Don't fall for it! :lol

You'll come home to a big ass bottle of Rogaine!

Damn near spit out my drink at this  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2020, 03:00:53 PM
Normally, I'd tend to agree with you all.  But this has been an ongoing thing with her (food / weight issues) for like ... ever, but even moreso for the past 3-4 years.  She knows her body is changing on her in ways she doesn't like.  I'm not stuffed about it, but she is.  It's not like getting this will be interpreted as a hint from me that she's gettin pudgy - she already bemoans it of herself daily... usually multiple times a day.

Woman can say it about themselves all they like, but as soon as the man says or implies something.....haha, you're fucked.  Nah, you know her, we don't, godspeed.

Don't fall for it! :lol

You'll come home to a big ass bottle of Rogaine!


 :rollin

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 28, 2020, 05:43:46 AM
Just wanted to throw out a little Jiu Jitsu update. Its been almost a month at this point and I absolutely love it.

The exercise aspect of it is insane. I can lift weights in the gym or run the treadmill all day, but its usually at my own pace. When you are sparring with another guy, he's not gonna hold back so you are giving every ounce of energy you have and are truly pushing yourself to your limits. I love that.

The techniques are extremely intricate, well thought out and very effective. Its really fascinating and I'm thinking about it all the time.

And mentally speaking, this makes me incredibly happy. I walk out of there feeling like a million bucks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2020, 06:20:20 AM
Sounds f'n awesome.  Couldn't ask for anything more out of a workout regimen.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 28, 2020, 06:53:42 AM
That sounds intense, glad you are getting a kick out of it  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2020, 07:03:33 AM
That sounds intense, glad you are getting a kick out of it  :metal

I see what you did there...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2020, 01:44:56 PM
That sounds intense, glad you are getting a kick out of it  :metal

Sounds like he is proud as punch with himself too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 30, 2020, 09:41:28 AM
This morning I ratcheted up all my lifting routines to 20 lb dumbbells in each hand. I like the symmetry because 40 lbs is pretty close to the amount of weight I've shed. Sure, the weight was distributed all over my body but it's still enlightening when thinking about how much more of a struggle my daily life was packing around that much. Again, I focused on my legs, glutes and core, adding in extra lifting/balancing lunges and step back lunges. It's surprising how shaky I am now, even after my recovery drink.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 30, 2020, 09:45:25 AM
This morning I ratcheted up all my lifting routines to 20 lb dumbbells in each hand. I like the symmetry because 40 lbs is pretty close to the amount of weight I've shed. Sure, the weight was distributed all over my body but it's still enlightening when thinking about how much more of a struggle my daily life was packing around that much.

That's an interesting way to look at it and you are right too about the struggle of lifting some weights and realizing "shit, that was what my body was carrying around in excess!" as my weight drop would be a struggle for me to curl (~35 lbs).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on January 30, 2020, 10:53:44 AM
This morning I ratcheted up all my lifting routines to 20 lb dumbbells in each hand. I like the symmetry because 40 lbs is pretty close to the amount of weight I've shed. Sure, the weight was distributed all over my body but it's still enlightening when thinking about how much more of a struggle my daily life was packing around that much.

That's an interesting way to look at it and you are right too about the struggle of lifting some weights and realizing "shit, that was what my body was carrying around in excess!" as my weight drop would be a struggle for me to curl (~35 lbs).

Hey, if a geezer like me can curl 40 lbs, 10 reps, 2 sets, I'm sure you could.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 30, 2020, 11:13:53 AM
I'm not strong  :lol getting there.  I do 30 reps at 30 lbs now when I do curls
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 31, 2020, 05:28:50 PM
My favorite work outs these days are going into mosh pits.  Man I had a blast last night and must have burned a few hundred calories in that mosh pit, the endless jumping and pushing but also I must have gotten more than my share of military presses in with how many teenage girls wanted to be picked up and crowd surfed.  Literally as soon as I got into the pit a group of young girls asked to be lifted up... sure.  Great work out and so much fun.  Was absolutely drenched in sweat after that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2020, 06:09:22 PM
My favorite work outs these days are going into mosh pits.  Man I had a blast last night and must have burned a few hundred calories in that mosh pit, the endless jumping and pushing but also I must have gotten more than my share of military presses in with how many teenage girls wanted to be picked up and crowd surfed.  Literally as soon as I got into the pit a group of young girls asked to be lifted up... sure.  Great work out and so much fun.  Was absolutely drenched in sweat after that.

What a strange strange paragraph.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on January 31, 2020, 06:11:46 PM
Got to keep that vibe going from last week  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2020, 06:13:03 PM
Got to keep that vibe going from last week  :lol

haha, yeah fair enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2020, 07:20:31 PM
My favorite work outs these days are going into mosh pits.  Man I had a blast last night and must have burned a few hundred calories in that mosh pit, the endless jumping and pushing but also I must have gotten more than my share of military presses in with how many teenage girls wanted to be picked up and crowd surfed.  Literally as soon as I got into the pit a group of young girls asked to be lifted up... sure.  Great work out and so much fun.  Was absolutely drenched in sweat after that.

What a strange strange paragraph.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on February 02, 2020, 10:21:16 AM
Had a good workout this morning. For the first time, I was able to keep the vinyasa of plank, chaturanga, upward dog, downward dog, to lunge pose between each of the warrior poses. Man, I was sweating hardcore when that was finished. For weights, I stuck with arms, chest and core to give my legs and back an extra day or two to recover. Feeling pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on February 02, 2020, 10:38:17 AM
 :metal

Need a good work out for super bowl sunday festivities. I. Currently on the bike but actually feeling a bit sick like a cold so I am not likely to do the workout I was hoping. Regardless, something is better than nothing
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on February 09, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
^ wow, after I wrote that last week, I took a break from the bike, and even though feeling sick said fuck it, and did 20 miles combined from my earlier ride, which was the furthest I've done in one day since I started.  This week I've been weaving between my belt holes around my waist.  Maybe finally hitting some of that belly fat I've been striving for.  I think I can secure this last belt hole by the end of February.  Seems every other day I can get it in fine and then it's too tight.  Just means I'm making more progress. I weighed myself again, definitely at 40lbs lost since May when I started.  When I get that next belt hole I bet I'll be at 190 which I am very close to.  Then time for a new belt (again).  :metal Also, biked 16 miles yesterday and 19 today.  Ate pretty well the last couple days, but this week is prime for another good controlled diet and daily workout.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2020, 04:20:24 AM
Good stuff Cram!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on February 10, 2020, 06:08:49 AM
I love the update Cram. Very inspirational.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
Podaar, do you know what telltale signs to look for to know you are in ketosis?  I've been going pretty well, extremely low carb through the week but a bit higher on the weekends to keep sane.  Not really trying per se to make sure I get to ketosis level, just curious to know.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on February 11, 2020, 06:08:56 AM
Podaar, do you know what telltale signs to look for to know you are in ketosis?  I've been going pretty well, extremely low carb through the week but a bit higher on the weekends to keep sane.  Not really trying per se to make sure I get to ketosis level, just curious to know.

The only way to be sure is to pee on one of these reagent strips.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61pU4dURspL._SL1341_.jpg)

That being said, I can usually tell by how dry my mouth feels. It's a strange sensation, I can feel saliva in my mouth, but my teeth feel dry(?). I find the sensation to be more pronounced in the morning. Does your wife accuse you of dragon breath every morning?

Edit: If you're eating less than 50 carbs per day, you should be in ketosis. If you're eating less than 20 carbs per day, you surely must be in ketosis.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2020, 10:53:10 AM
to be sure, you mean 50g of carbs, not 50 calories of carbs.  right?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Adami on February 11, 2020, 11:24:39 AM
So I'm developing a new diet/fitness regime, and I just need a little help with one step. Here's what I got so far.

1) Eat whatever you want
2) Do whatever you want
3) ?????????
4) Be in great shape.


So I think I've done the heavy lifting on points 1, 2, and 4 but could use help with the mostly insignificant step 3.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
Create custom definition of "great shape"
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on February 11, 2020, 01:07:12 PM
to be sure, you mean 50g of carbs, not 50 calories of carbs.  right?

Correct.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on February 11, 2020, 01:09:11 PM
So I'm developing a new diet/fitness regime, and I just need a little help with one step. Here's what I got so far.

1) Eat whatever you want
2) Do whatever you want
3) ?????????
4) Be in great shape.


So I think I've done the heavy lifting on points 1, 2, and 4 but could use help with the mostly insignificant step 3.

Create custom definition of "great shape"

Round is a shape... some people think it's great.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 01:25:11 PM
Podaar, do you know what telltale signs to look for to know you are in ketosis?  I've been going pretty well, extremely low carb through the week but a bit higher on the weekends to keep sane.  Not really trying per se to make sure I get to ketosis level, just curious to know.

The only way to be sure is to pee on one of these reagent strips.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61pU4dURspL._SL1341_.jpg)

That being said, I can usually tell by how dry my mouth feels. It's a strange sensation, I can feel saliva in my mouth, but my teeth feel dry(?). I find the sensation to be more pronounced in the morning. Does your wife accuse you of dragon breath every morning?

Edit: If you're eating less than 50 carbs per day, you should be in ketosis. If you're eating less than 20 carbs per day, you surely must be in ketosis.

Yeah, I thought that was the only way.  I'm not going to bother going that far into it.  Some times I do get the dry mouth feel.  Like a drink shit loads of water but still feel kind of dry.  My guess is I'm around the 50g of carbs a day.  20g sounds near impossible.  My misses doesn't accuse me of dragon breath though, so perhaps I'm not in ketosis.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 02:08:12 PM
My progress is going okay, although some days are harder than others.  Yesterdays leg session was quite weak.  I'm feeling a bit weaker in my squats and deadlifts, yet my upper body movements actually are a little stronger.  My fat loss is still happening, but shifting this stomach fat is beyond difficult, and such a mental challenge.

Anyway, had a dream about Krispy Kreme's last night so not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing in relation to my diet.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 11, 2020, 02:19:25 PM
Think I'm in the middle of some kind of depression. No clinical diagnosis but it's just a herculean effort to get anything done physically. Taking out the trash? I'll shove it down a little more and take it out tomorrow. Dishes? Eh, tomorrow. Cooking? Why bother, it's just me, way too much effort. Gym? Sure, just let me take 1-2 hours to work up the motivation just to put on my gym clothes and pack my bag... Even work, since I work 2 minutes from home... roll out of bed 20 minutes before work, take a quick shower and head out the door. Real simple stuff, just getting harder and harder to do. It sucks.

That said... I've been forcing myself out on good days. Did almost 2 full hours of HIIT cardio over the weekend in a single go, and forced myself out at 10 last night to do some more. Incorporating fresh fruit back into my diet again, and trying to cut out most meat simply because although I love meat, if it isn't seafood or chicken, I feel bad and heavy after eating it. The rice cooker is still a lifesaver. Some days it's just easier to throw a pizza in the oven.

Got my bag all made out and sitting in the car, headphones are charged, wired headphones as backup are there too, running shoes are there... still a great chance of me saying screw it and going home after work instead of the gym. 90 minutes to go.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 02:35:04 PM
Think I'm in the middle of some kind of depression. No clinical diagnosis but it's just a herculean effort to get anything done physically. Taking out the trash? I'll shove it down a little more and take it out tomorrow. Dishes? Eh, tomorrow. Cooking? Why bother, it's just me, way too much effort. Gym? Sure, just let me take 1-2 hours to work up the motivation just to put on my gym clothes and pack my bag... Even work, since I work 2 minutes from home... roll out of bed 20 minutes before work, take a quick shower and head out the door. Real simple stuff, just getting harder and harder to do. It sucks.

That said... I've been forcing myself out on good days. Did almost 2 full hours of HIIT cardio over the weekend in a single go, and forced myself out at 10 last night to do some more. Incorporating fresh fruit back into my diet again, and trying to cut out most meat simply because although I love meat, if it isn't seafood or chicken, I feel bad and heavy after eating it. The rice cooker is still a lifesaver. Some days it's just easier to throw a pizza in the oven.

Got my bag all made out and sitting in the car, headphones are charged, wired headphones as backup are there too, running shoes are there... still a great chance of me saying screw it and going home after work instead of the gym. 90 minutes to go.

This is kind of my life too in a way Michael.  As I get older it seems harder and harder to see the point in anything and the point in life in general.  For me, day to day things in life just seem like big tasks.  Paying bills, making phone calls for finances and shit, just so difficult.  Even going to the shops and buying stuff and replacing things I just couldn't be fucked.  The PC I'm on still runs XP and is about 15 years old and slow as fuck.  I need to update and get a new one, but going out looking and getting something, I just couldn't be fucked doing, too much effort.  Work 12 hours and then just get home and crash.  No desire to go out, do things, don't want to see anyone, just couldn't be fucked. 

On the other hand, my training is one of the only things that keeps me sane.  You've been through a lot mate, so cut yourself some slack.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 11, 2020, 02:43:59 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. "Fuck this, fuck that, fuck you" sums it up.  :lol It really does suck. I dunno, it's like a switch flipped at the start of the year; as soon as I get off work, I no longer have any energy to do much, instead I just want nothing more than to sleep. Maybe I should start taking hour-long naps after work; I took a power nap from 5:30-6 last night and actually felt great. I usually nap on lunch, but not after work.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 03:12:02 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. "Fuck this, fuck that, fuck you" sums it up.  :lol It really does suck. I dunno, it's like a switch flipped at the start of the year; as soon as I get off work, I no longer have any energy to do much, instead I just want nothing more than to sleep. Maybe I should start taking hour-long naps after work; I took a power nap from 5:30-6 last night and actually felt great. I usually nap on lunch, but not after work.

I think a lot of my posts lately relate to this statement.  :lol

I do think lack of sleep due to work hours causes a lot of my neagtive feelings and emotions really.  Some days I just drive to work, then have to sit in the car for 10 minutes in the parking lot just to muster up some energy to get in there and start my day.  Even driving home, I'll put off putting fuel in the car cause I couldn't be assed.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on February 11, 2020, 03:16:58 PM
Think I'm in the middle of some kind of depression. No clinical diagnosis but it's just a herculean effort to get anything done physically. Taking out the trash? I'll shove it down a little more and take it out tomorrow. Dishes? Eh, tomorrow. Cooking? Why bother, it's just me, way too much effort. Gym? Sure, just let me take 1-2 hours to work up the motivation just to put on my gym clothes and pack my bag... Even work, since I work 2 minutes from home... roll out of bed 20 minutes before work, take a quick shower and head out the door. Real simple stuff, just getting harder and harder to do. It sucks.

That said... I've been forcing myself out on good days. Did almost 2 full hours of HIIT cardio over the weekend in a single go, and forced myself out at 10 last night to do some more. Incorporating fresh fruit back into my diet again, and trying to cut out most meat simply because although I love meat, if it isn't seafood or chicken, I feel bad and heavy after eating it. The rice cooker is still a lifesaver. Some days it's just easier to throw a pizza in the oven.

Got my bag all made out and sitting in the car, headphones are charged, wired headphones as backup are there too, running shoes are there... still a great chance of me saying screw it and going home after work instead of the gym. 90 minutes to go.

For me, I took a look in the mirror (both literally and metaphorically) and said to myself "is this the life I want to live?"  Last May, being fat, single, and lonely was a real eye opener for me and I was very depressed.  I used that as motivation.  You only got one life and it ticks away every second so if you want to be happy, you got to make the most of it.  Obviously putting the dishes away doesn't change much, but for me, it's about how you view your time in this life.  If you WANT to be happy, it's there for the taking.  I didn't break my depression until September, it takes a lot of time and having a "Fuck this, fuck that, fuck you" attitude isn't going to fix it.  Look inner at ways you can better yourself to be happy.  No one is going to do it for you. I was saying "fuck you" to myself for awhile to kick myself back into it.  The hard work pays off.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2020, 03:18:05 PM
  Some days I just drive to work, then have to sit in the car for 10 minutes in the parking lot just to muster up some energy to get in there and start my day. 

This happened to me last week. I parked my car and then was simply paralyzed. I did not want to go in. At all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 11, 2020, 03:27:48 PM
I think a lot of it has to do with body dysmorphia. I looked in the mirror yesterday and I looked fine. Yet every day, for most of my life, I just hate my body, the way I feel, I always think I'm super fat and I'm not even close to being fat to begin with, objectively. Even at the peak of my physical shape a few years ago I felt that way. Never found a way to overcome it, so I just make jokes and bottle the negative vibes up as much as I can. The mockery as a kid has always been fuel to work out, but the catch-22 is that it's given me some devastating lifelong self-esteem issues that I'm fully aware of, but unable to figure out how to overcome permanently, if it's even possible.

So I'll likely still hit the gym in 30 minutes, work my ass off as always, and still be unhappy with myself - but it's a better alternative than sitting at home not venting some frustration on the treadmill. Some days I get dressed and make it all the way out to the gym - and then I just drive back home and think about the hundred other personal problems I have and which one I should try avoiding first.  :lol

I have a lot of issues to work through.  :) :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 03:31:12 PM
  Some days I just drive to work, then have to sit in the car for 10 minutes in the parking lot just to muster up some energy to get in there and start my day. 

This happened to me last week. I parked my car and then was simply paralyzed. I did not want to go in. At all.

Amen mate.  That 10 minutes you sit there is just so strange, a weird feeling I can't describe.  Something you do everyday yet you literally have to pull yourself out of the car and walk inside. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 11, 2020, 03:36:34 PM
He's in the parking lot
Just sitting in his car
It's 9 o'clock, but he can't get out  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 04:04:38 PM
He's in the parking lot
Just sitting in his car
It's 9 o'clock, but he can't get out  :lol

So,  I'm posting right now on my phone.  I'm in the work parking lot and it's 9:02.  I shit you not.  I'm listening to Insomnium though.  Should have grabbed my Awake cd before leaving.   :lol

I should have been here about half an hour ago, but I just don't care.

Edit:  Shit, where did all these ants come from and why are they in my fucking car?

Edit 2:  I should get out.  But maybe 5 more minutes won't hurt.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2020, 04:05:50 PM
Look on the bright side...you have your new co-manager to help you! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 04:10:06 PM
Look on the bright side...you have your new co-manager to help you! :neverusethis:

Yeah, it's been really busy so still just doing a lot of the work alone.  I've put him in his place slightly and just dealing with him and he's pulled his head in slightly for now.  At this point just don't care and not stressing over it all.  It is what it is.
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 04:14:37 PM
Alright, 9:14, better get in there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 11, 2020, 05:18:24 PM
 :rollin

Godspeed, soldier. I didn't make it to the gym. Knowing me this means I either will get a wild hair up my ass in 3 hours and go late at night or just not go at all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2020, 06:21:09 PM
:rollin

Godspeed, soldier. I didn't make it to the gym. Knowing me this means I either will get a wild hair up my ass in 3 hours and go late at night or just not go at all.

WTF!?    :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: cramx3 on February 11, 2020, 07:39:22 PM
Wild hair up your ass?  You been eating seasoned cramx3 rump?  :biggrin: I was super tired today, just hit the bike for 15 minutes after work and called it a night.  I actually still have this cold from over a week ago now and I was good with the diet today, just very low energy.  It's been so rainy and dark here lately as well, not helping the vibe.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2020, 07:40:20 PM
WTF is this? The DTF Chick Thread?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 11, 2020, 07:55:59 PM
 :rollin

Case in point... about to head to the gym now. This is my life.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2020, 04:29:16 AM
We are really good at fucking up threads.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: Podaar on February 12, 2020, 05:16:45 AM
What the actual mother fuck? This thread took a dark turn. I'm really sorry that y'all suffer from depression. I've been really fortunate in my life and never had that problem, but I can certainly empathize. Here's to brighter days. :thursday:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: The Walrus on February 12, 2020, 07:31:32 AM
Eh, it's not like I'm moping about or have a woe-is-me attitude, so it could be a lot worse. It's just a palpable malaise of sorts. Last night was a good night; an hour of HIIT cardio followed by a brief lifting session. Hooray.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2020, 10:13:41 AM
Group (bro) hugs.  Depression... been there; done that.  Ain't no fun.  Work has been crazy busy for me lately... haven't had much of chance to post, but I'll try to fire something together later today on this matter - exercise and mental fitness... no shame in discussing the latter here as well - hence the thread title change.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: cramx3 on February 12, 2020, 10:21:57 AM
I'm sure there's some scientific correlation, but I do think working out played a huge role in over coming my depression (plus time and other factors).  Just not being proud of my body and putting myself in a position to be proud of it really makes a difference.  I mean, I'm not proud of it right now, I'm not there yet, but I am proud of the change and getting lots of positive feedback from people as they see the change really helps overcome those depressive feelings and thoughts.  I don't think I ever had depression before until my x dumped me so all of last summer was a new and pretty shitty experience, but working out definitely helped get over the hump.  I don't see anything wrong with lumping the effects of exercise and mental health into this thread, not any different than nutrition being a big part of overall fitness.  Your head plays a role too. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on February 12, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
Busting ass in the gym is a great way to get over those negative vibes. Years and years ago when I was fresh out of high school I stopped lifting weights (started as a sophomore) for a couple years, then everything went south and that's when I cultivated an obsession with the gym.

Very few things feel better than showing up to the gym with a bad attitude or negative vibes and just sweating tf out for an hour or two. Then coming home and having a well deserved sleep.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2020, 10:44:19 AM
I'm sure there's some scientific correlation, but I do think working out played a huge role in over coming my depression (plus time and other factors).  Just not being proud of my body and putting myself in a position to be proud of it really makes a difference.  I mean, I'm not proud of it right now, I'm not there yet, but I am proud of the change and getting lots of positive feedback from people as they see the change really helps overcome those depressive feelings and thoughts.  I don't think I ever had depression before until my x dumped me so all of last summer was a new and pretty shitty experience, but working out definitely helped get over the hump.  I don't see anything wrong with lumping the effects of exercise and mental health into this thread, not any different than nutrition being a big part of overall fitness.  Your head plays a role too.

Seeing this reminded me, I never told anyone at work that I'm losing weight, but apparently it shows. This Monday, an old lady at work celebrated her 70something's birthday (76 I think) so she baked an apple pie at home, brought it to work and was giving the slices out to the coworkers. When I wished her a happy birthday, she offered me an apple in case I didn't want a slice of pie. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2020, 01:30:47 PM
Group (bro) hugs.  Depression... been there; done that.  Ain't no fun.  Work has been crazy busy for me lately... haven't had much of chance to post, but I'll try to fire something together later today on this matter - exercise and mental fitness... no shame in discussing the latter here as well - hence the thread title change.

Same.  It's kind of funny how we all seem to somewhat follow similar patterns.  Weeks ago posts from all left right and centre then we all die off at the same time due to business.  Quite interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2020, 01:31:15 PM
What the actual mother fuck? This thread took a dark turn. I'm really sorry that y'all suffer from depression. I've been really fortunate in my life and never had that problem, but I can certainly empathize. Here's to brighter days. :thursday:

You're a blessed man than mate.  More power to you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2020, 03:07:24 PM
I've been so exhausted and depleted this week, I have a mid week nightly serve of 50g of oats.  That only equates to around 25-30g of carbs so not too bad.  Not gonna lie, I'm enjoying this keto style of eating but that small serve with protein powder and a generous tablespoon of PB was very good.  I think with my training regime however, it's warranted.  I love the high fat and protein eating so just sticking to that with some carbs here and there I think is working fine.  Don't want to make the mid week thing a habit though if I can help it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on February 12, 2020, 04:42:26 PM
It won't kill you. But that's awesome. If you're exhausted and depleted, go for it.

No gym for me tonight - roads became awful this afternoon. Early bedtime for this chump.
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Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2020, 04:22:13 AM
It won't kill you. But that's awesome. If you're exhausted and depleted, go for it.

No gym for me tonight - roads became awful this afternoon. Early bedtime for this chump.

The older I get, the more and more I love an early bedtime.

Yeah and it won't kill me.  Fo have to break those mental chains.  Thinking it's a sin and it will hurt me is what lead me down an eating disorder path.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2020, 06:48:38 AM
On the topic of mental fitness, as most know, I've battled various degrees of depression for a long time (not even realizing it in my teens and 20s).  I've had it under control for a few years now, but the past 2 weeks I've been in a bit of a malaise.  Had a great workout 2 weeks ago, which wiped me out for a couple of days (that was fine).  But then life and work/family priorities consumed pretty much all of my disposable time.  Now I'm in the 'fuckit' mindset.  I just gotta force myself to get changed into my workout clothes, and head downstairs - I'm lucky that way, that my gym only takes about 30 seconds to get to.  I ALWAYS feel better during and after it, it's just a matter of getting my mindset to get there.  There's just so many demands (both discretionary and non-discretionary) on my time, I'm torn all to hell about what I want to do... read  (there's a lot I've got backlogged - comics, new books, old books, articles...?  Game (I've got 6 that I haven't even touched yet)?  Watch TV/movies I'm backlogged on?  Self-help stuff I've had saved for months that I want/need to get to?  Watch concert DVDs?  Watch Leafs/Raptors?  Ugh.

Doesn't help that I'm riddled with guilt anytime I take time to do something for myself... due to the years of mrs.jingle (both passively and outright) getting upset when I'm not spending 'enough' time with her (or the jingle.kids when they were younger) - basically, anytime to myself is not time with her, and has often triggered her issues with abandonment.  It's part of the reason that I get up at 6am on weekends - it's the only time I feel guilt-free when doing something exclusively for myself.

There's a few other things tugging at my mental state as well, but nothing I care to discuss to the group at large at the moment. 

Anyway, I'm gonna get changed and head downstairs shortly... time to get back on the horse.
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Post by: The Walrus on February 15, 2020, 07:46:45 AM
:hug: Sweat out the bad vibes, buddy. On my way to the gym shortly myself.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2020, 10:35:04 AM
:hug: Sweat out the bad vibes, buddy. On my way to the gym shortly myself.

Just double dipped.... 15 minutes of HIIT; 30 minutes on the bike while playing HZD.

Gonna try and do some lifting later tonight, maybe during the first period of the Leafs game.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 15, 2020, 11:21:40 AM
It must be really difficult if going to the basement to work out brings up abandonment fears from your wife. At least some of those things you want to do (watch sports, play video games) can kind of be done while working out (as I watch the PSU bball game on the bike). Getting started is definitely the hardest part so if you can just get that initial push then its smooth sailing.

Weighing in this morning at 190lbs  :omg: I've been pushing myself so hard this week on the bike and seeing the results.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2020, 04:46:53 PM
It must be really difficult if going to the basement to work out brings up abandonment fears from your wife. At least some of those things you want to do (watch sports, play video games) can kind of be done while working out (as I watch the PSU bball game on the bike). Getting started is definitely the hardest part so if you can just get that initial push then its smooth sailing.

Weighing in this morning at 190lbs  :omg: I've been pushing myself so hard this week on the bike and seeing the results.

Abandonment not in the sense that I'm literally going to abandon her, but rather that she's being left alone... she's not worthy enough for me to prioritize her over something else.  It's completely irrational, and to some extent she knows it too - and it's not just the working out issue... it was anything that I did of my own interests.  It's not terribly bad nowadays.  She knows that these things keep me mentally strong, but the underlying guilt is still there sometimes (sometimes of my own doing; sometimes coming from her)
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Post by: cramx3 on February 15, 2020, 05:08:19 PM
Yea, that's a hard balance.  I know you are in great shape though so it's not like you need to hit the gym, but I get the idea of "me time" and how it's important.  Sometimes that me time is working out which helps lots of other things too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2020, 09:14:15 PM
Thanks Marc.  I’m not exactly sure I’d consider myself in “great” shape ... but I’m getting there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:05:03 AM
On the topic of mental fitness, as most know, I've battled various degrees of depression for a long time (not even realizing it in my teens and 20s).  I've had it under control for a few years now, but the past 2 weeks I've been in a bit of a malaise.  Had a great workout 2 weeks ago, which wiped me out for a couple of days (that was fine).  But then life and work/family priorities consumed pretty much all of my disposable time.  Now I'm in the 'fuckit' mindset.  I just gotta force myself to get changed into my workout clothes, and head downstairs - I'm lucky that way, that my gym only takes about 30 seconds to get to.  I ALWAYS feel better during and after it, it's just a matter of getting my mindset to get there.  There's just so many demands (both discretionary and non-discretionary) on my time, I'm torn all to hell about what I want to do... read  (there's a lot I've got backlogged - comics, new books, old books, articles...?  Game (I've got 6 that I haven't even touched yet)?  Watch TV/movies I'm backlogged on?  Self-help stuff I've had saved for months that I want/need to get to?  Watch concert DVDs?  Watch Leafs/Raptors?  Ugh.

Doesn't help that I'm riddled with guilt anytime I take time to do something for myself... due to the years of mrs.jingle (both passively and outright) getting upset when I'm not spending 'enough' time with her (or the jingle.kids when they were younger) - basically, anytime to myself is not time with her, and has often triggered her issues with abandonment.  It's part of the reason that I get up at 6am on weekends - it's the only time I feel guilt-free when doing something exclusively for myself.

There's a few other things tugging at my mental state as well, but nothing I care to discuss to the group at large at the moment. 

Anyway, I'm gonna get changed and head downstairs shortly... time to get back on the horse.

Let's all be in the fuckit mindset together!  :metal

Seriously though, head up bud.  Yeah that's tough with the misses too mate.  I went through that with mine a few years back for a long time.  The jealousy whenever I did something on my own was real.  I got to a point I just called her on it, and I've made her realise and we've communicated heavily over time to get these issues out of the way. It took a while but she's cool now. Your situation is a little different I know and can understand what you're saying.  Keep training mate, and I'm sure the feelings will pass soon enough.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2020, 04:27:44 AM
Don't get me wrong boys, things are mostly good now with mrs.jingle in this regard.  There was just a long period (as you eluded to Kade) where it was pretty bad.  The result is that much of the guilt I feel is of my own doing.  Very rarely is there any issue with/from her.  Back on the topic of health/fitness now .... Last night after dinner, had a great 50-minute chest/tri/shoulder session.  Hadn't done that routine in literally a month (Jan 15th according to my log), and most of the lifts were heavier or higher rep counts.  I was quite stunned.  This morning... coffee-yoga in 90 minutes.  Prolly try to get on the bike/treadmill later with mrs.jingle.
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Post by: TAC on February 16, 2020, 05:49:09 AM
Chad, women are fucked. It's weird that you mention "abandonment", because from here, you seem to do quite a lot of things that would never fly in my house, like travelling for work, or um....going to Atlanta with some DTF dudes for a weekend.
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Post by: Podaar on February 16, 2020, 11:08:58 AM
Weighing in this morning at 190lbs  :omg: I've been pushing myself so hard this week on the bike and seeing the results.

 :2metal:

I got in a good session this morning. More yoga followed by an extended weight session for core and chest. I finished with four strip-sets of chest fly. Not bad after 50 total push-ups of various types. I'm feeling pretty good and should have enough energy for treadmill work this afternoon while reading. I'm not really seeing any results as far as the scale goes (I've been stuck at the same weight for four weeks now) but I am feeling stronger and get through my exercises easier each time...which is the most important thing for me, really.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on February 16, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
Not to turn this into an advice-about-dealing-with-people thread, but issues with "abandonment" usually come from projecting your issues on your partner. If she doesn't afford herself nice alone time and instead "donates" most of her surplus to you and the kids, she will get pissed because you afford yourself some nice alone time, and since it can't be her problem (because nice alone time is a good thing to have, so the only reason how a human being can convince themselves not to have more of it is that somehow they're a bad person/parent/spouse if they do), it has to be that you afford yourself too much. The other reason could be about the quality of your together time. My husband and I had a phase where we would just watch a lot of TV on the weekends together, and I swear, the second he would switch off from spending time with me doing that to participate in his constructive and scheduled and enriching hobby, I would feel alone and jealous, because the gargantuan amount of time we just spent still wasn't as constructive, scheduled and enriching. The second problem is much, much easier to solve. The first one, I wouldn't know how to solve without being patronizing about explaining to an adult that it's okay to have alone time, as much as you want, and unapologetically demand it and spend it in a great way and not just stressing about when it's gonna be over.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:01:46 PM
Chad, women are fucked. It's weird that you mention "abandonment", because from here, you seem to do quite a lot of things that would never fly in my house, like travelling for work, or um....going to Atlanta with some DTF dudes for a weekend.

I think this is the key point we all should just take out of this discussion.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:04:23 PM
Not to turn this into an advice-about-dealing-with-people thread, but issues with "abandonment" usually come from projecting your issues on your partner. If she doesn't afford herself nice alone time and instead "donates" most of her surplus to you and the kids, she will get pissed because you afford yourself some nice alone time, and since it can't be her problem (because nice alone time is a good thing to have, so the only reason how a human being can convince themselves not to have more of it is that somehow they're a bad person/parent/spouse if they do), it has to be that you afford yourself too much. The other reason could be about the quality of your together time. My husband and I had a phase where we would just watch a lot of TV on the weekends together, and I swear, the second he would switch off from spending time with me doing that to participate in his constructive and scheduled and enriching hobby, I would feel alone and jealous, because the gargantuan amount of time we just spent still wasn't as constructive, scheduled and enriching. The second problem is much, much easier to solve. The first one, I wouldn't know how to solve without being patronizing about explaining to an adult that it's okay to have alone time, as much as you want, and unapologetically demand it and spend it in a great way and not just stressing about when it's gonna be over.

Good post.  And just ignore the above post too.  :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:08:11 PM
My Sunday run yesterday was a tough one.  8km (bout 5 miles) at around 9am in 32 degree (90F) weather.  Wiped me out for the rest of the day.  I can't seem to up my speed though.  My times always vary around the same give or take.  I go okay considering 2 years ago I couldn't run a couple hundred metres but it's hard to progress.  Probably something I just need to do more of.  I think once the cooler weather sets in it will be a perfect time to try and up my speed and distances.
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Post by: TAC on February 16, 2020, 03:41:08 PM
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Good post.  And just ignore post above post too.  :biggrin:

 :lol

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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:59:09 PM
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Good post.  And just ignore post above post too.  :biggrin:

 :lol

Just edited my stuff up there, but yeah, didn't see who posted before I posted that.  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2020, 08:05:02 PM
@ Milena ... good post indeed. I’ll probably defer further thoughts in the matter for the marriage advice thread.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 18, 2020, 11:01:41 AM
So since I've been biking so much and doing so just about every single day in 2020, my legs I've noticed are getting a bit tight.  So I've been doing lots of stretching, before and after biking and usually when I wake up as well.  It got me to thinking about Podaar and his yoga.  Are there any stretches or poses (I know little of yoga other than doing some basics in high school 17 years ago) that you can recommend for my legs?  Question is generally for everyone too, just think Podaar is the only one who has been commenting about doing yoga.
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Post by: Podaar on February 18, 2020, 11:34:42 AM
There are quite a number of great leg stretching yoga poses. One is even called runner's pose.
(https://3i133rqau023qjc1k3txdvr1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Yoga_Runners-Lunge-Advanced_Exercise2.jpg)

Triangle, reverse triangle, crescent, warrior, warrior 2 and reverse warrior are all good stretches but are also leg strengtheners.

Many of the floor poses are terrific for leg stretch, like the classic poses at the bottom of Sun Salutations; upward dog and downward dog. When you're in a downward dog pose you can alternate bending one knee while straitening the opposite leg for a great calf stretch. Frog pose is good for your groin and hips but be careful with them and be sure to learn how to get out of that pose safely. Cobbler pose, and happy baby are great for glute stretches.

There's probably a shitload more that I don't know about either.

Edit: I found a decent link for leg poses (https://www.verywellfit.com/yoga-poses-for-hamstrings-4045013). One of my favorites is number eight on this list.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 18, 2020, 11:45:35 AM
Awesome ass, I mean information  :biggrin:

Seriously, that's exactly what I was looking for.  That link shows lost of stretches I was pretty much doing but not exactly like they show (with regards to arm and head positioning) so this is a good guide for me.  Thank you
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2020, 11:49:07 AM
^ Actually, that's Runners Stretch.  ;)  Runners Lunge for the lay person

(https://3i133rqau023qjc1k3txdvr1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Yoga_Runners-Lunge_Exercise.jpg)

Yoga is great for general aches and stiffness - I've noticed very big difference since getting back to yoga 1x per week.  I do the p90x Yoga routine (just did it Sunday).  Protip, DO NOT do it the day after chest/tris/shoulders.  Man those upward/downward dogs and sun salutations were rough.

Here's a playlist of a guy I follow religiously (I've bought 3 of the programs, and have dozens of his vids bookmarked).  This i JUST for stretching.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYKx_vtjw-c&list=PL3Zxn-F8KGLfVNJamhfTTb6-TJnlFKDFz.  I use a bunch of these as well.
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Post by: Podaar on February 18, 2020, 11:53:01 AM
 :facepalm:

Oh, shit. Chad is correct.  :blush

Still, I prefer runner's stretch (even though I can't go nearly as low as that young lady).
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Post by: cramx3 on February 18, 2020, 11:56:04 AM
I like the pictures better than the video  :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2020, 02:20:24 PM
Stretching?!  Pffft.....
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2020, 04:53:16 PM
Still, I prefer runner's stretch (even though I can't go nearly as low as that young lady).

Me too... I can get my elbow about 60% of the way down.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2020, 04:59:10 PM
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
Were you ever 'in'?
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Post by: cramx3 on February 18, 2020, 05:17:45 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2020, 06:11:00 PM
Still, I prefer runner's stretch (even though I can't go nearly as low as that young lady).

Me too... I can get my elbow about 60% of the way down.

I would put a Tool, Stinkfist reference in right here, but there's no point.  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2020, 08:55:14 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: Podaar on February 19, 2020, 05:52:10 AM
Still, I prefer runner's stretch (even though I can't go nearly as low as that young lady).

Me too... I can get my elbow about 60% of the way down.

I would put a Tool, Stinkfist reference in right here, but there's no point.  :lol

 :lol

Stretching?!  Pffft.....

Wait until you get old, man. You won't be laughing then.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 19, 2020, 07:36:39 AM
Stretching?!  Pffft.....

Wait until you get old, man. You won't be laughing then.

Old nuthin... as you know, once ya hit 40, it's like a light switch.  Injuries, aches, pains and general annoyances simply do not resolve themselves as quickly as they once pre 40.  Hell, there are times I need to stretch just for going on a long car drive. :lol

 :|
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Post by: cramx3 on February 19, 2020, 07:54:01 AM
It took me 2 weeks to get over a light cold, I'm 35 but man do I feel old at times.

I've never really thought about stretching, but at the same time, I've never felt such tightness in my legs likely because I've never biked so much for so long now.  Now "I get it"
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Post by: The Walrus on February 19, 2020, 07:56:13 AM
Stretching is great. If you don't have one, pick yourself a good foam roller and a tennis ball as well. Really roll out them super tight spots. Hurts so good (c'mon baby, make it hurt so good)
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 19, 2020, 08:27:29 AM
Stretching is great. If you don't have one, pick yourself a good foam roller and a tennis ball as well. Really roll out them super tight spots. Hurts so good (c'mon baby, make it hurt so good)

Oh yeah... foam rollers are gloriously evil.
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2020, 01:45:09 PM
Still, I prefer runner's stretch (even though I can't go nearly as low as that young lady).

Me too... I can get my elbow about 60% of the way down.

I would put a Tool, Stinkfist reference in right here, but there's no point.  :lol

 :lol

Stretching?!  Pffft.....

Wait until you get old, man. You won't be laughing then.

I could have bet my life savings that comment was coming haha.  Nah, I was being sarcastic, even me if I don't do a good foam roll and stretch every second day, my legs lock up like the Tinman.  I need to do more of it, but just hate doing it.  Although with my running increasing I have no choice, it's a must.
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2020, 01:47:14 PM
Stretching is great. If you don't have one, pick yourself a good foam roller and a tennis ball as well. Really roll out them super tight spots. Hurts so good (c'mon baby, make it hurt so good)

Oh yeah... foam rollers are gloriously evil.

A necessary evil.
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2020, 03:08:41 AM
4km swim yesterday and 11km run today.  I'm fucked.
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Post by: The Walrus on February 23, 2020, 06:46:37 AM
More diet related, but I'm proud of myself. Family went to Texas Roadhouse yesterday. Everybody got a steak, except me. I got grilled salmon and a caesar salad and felt absolutely fantastic after the meal. Then I did some cardio. Treated myself to a vodka+diet 7-up afterwards  :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2020, 06:52:14 AM
Wrecked my back a bit on Friday.  Was doing single-leg RDL, with 30lb dumbbells.  The weight wasn't the issue - I've done that lift before.  But in one movement, I somewhat lost my balance, and in trying to stay on my feet, tweaked something in my lower back.  Not terrible, but I've got the odd shooting pain down both hips and my outer quads.  Between that and usual DOMS, I think I'm on the shelf until at least tomorrow or Tuesday.  Won't be doing that movement again
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 23, 2020, 06:58:05 AM
Stretching is great. If you don't have one, pick yourself a good foam roller and a tennis ball as well. Really roll out them super tight spots. Hurts so good (c'mon baby, make it hurt so good)

I'll use tennis balls to roll out my neck and shoulders and it's fantastic.
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2020, 02:03:38 PM
Wrecked my back a bit on Friday.  Was doing single-leg RDL, with 30lb dumbbells.  The weight wasn't the issue - I've done that lift before.  But in one movement, I somewhat lost my balance, and in trying to stay on my feet, tweaked something in my lower back.  Not terrible, but I've got the odd shooting pain down both hips and my outer quads.  Between that and usual DOMS, I think I'm on the shelf until at least tomorrow or Tuesday.  Won't be doing that movement again

Ouch dude.  Yeah, maybe rest up til it subsides.  Don't want to fuck around with lower back shit.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 23, 2020, 02:15:06 PM
4km swim yesterday and 11km run today.  I'm fucked.

damn  :metal :metal

Wrecked my back a bit on Friday.  Was doing single-leg RDL, with 30lb dumbbells.  The weight wasn't the issue - I've done that lift before.  But in one movement, I somewhat lost my balance, and in trying to stay on my feet, tweaked something in my lower back.  Not terrible, but I've got the odd shooting pain down both hips and my outer quads.  Between that and usual DOMS, I think I'm on the shelf until at least tomorrow or Tuesday.  Won't be doing that movement again

Ouch dude.  Yeah, maybe rest up til it subsides.  Don't want to fuck around with lower back shit.

Yea get well Chad, I wouldn't want to risk hurting the back any further.

Did a 14 mile bike ride and 100 sit ups this morning, much needed after two days of not quite good workouts but good eats.  No set backs or anything though, was at 189lbs this morning and kept my belt at that last latch all last week (instead of fluctuating as it had been recently).  Also got new gym/pajama shorts as all my old pairs just fall down to my ankles now.  :yarr
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Post by: SchecterShredder on February 23, 2020, 03:42:30 PM
I took up xc skiing this year (classic style). I needed something to keep my cycling fitness while i was recovering from vasectomy surgery. There's a massive 40 acre ravine and park about a 30 second walk down the alley from my house, and it's full of xc ski  and mtb single track trails. I've absolutely fallen in love with the sport! It's nowhere near as devastating on my legs as mountain biking, but my heart rate is jacked the whole time. The only downside, if you can actually call it a downside, is now i have to choose between skiing and cycling.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2020, 05:27:00 AM
My back is already on the mend... just feeling like general DOMS/soreness this morning.  Been using a heating pad to keep it loose.  I'll take today off (maybe just get on the bike) and maybe tomorrow too.  Try to get back at it on Wednesday - which I'll really need since it was wings/pizza/booze yesterday.
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Post by: Northern Lion on February 25, 2020, 03:03:36 PM
I thought I'd give everyone here an update.  After beginning my excersize routine, I began having pain in my leg muscles and joints just about every weekend.  So I decided to hold off for a bit until I could find out what was wrong.

I've had this kind of pain before, but it usually only happened once every few months or years.  I went to the doc about it and after some blood work and X-rays to check for arthritis, they all came up negative.  My doctor encouraged me to keep jogging until we could pin point the problem.

So this week I'm starting back up again.  I really missed it and have really enjoyed jogging.  And I really want to achive my goal.
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2020, 03:27:08 PM
I thought I'd give everyone here an update.  After beginning my excersize routine, I began having pain in my leg muscles and joints just about every weekend.  So I decided to hold off for a bit until I could find out what was wrong.

I've had this kind of pain before, but it usually only happened once every few months or years.  I went to the doc about it and after some blood work and X-rays to check for arthritis, they all came up negative.  My doctor encouraged me to keep jogging until we could pin point the problem.

So this week I'm starting back up again.  I really missed it and have really enjoyed jogging.  And I really want to achive my goal.

Have you tried basic stretching and trigger pointing mate?  Chronic tight muscles can cause a wide range of issues one would never think of.
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2020, 03:37:59 PM
Drinking enough water I assume too.
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Post by: Northern Lion on February 25, 2020, 04:09:28 PM
Yes, I stretch well before I run, and I walk for a little bit to cool down after I'm finished.  And I do drink plenty of water.  That is at least one health habit I have kept over the years.

I always feel just fine after I run.  No cramping, no overly sore muscles, my joints don't ache... nothing.  It doesn't catch up to me until several days have gone by.  That's why my doctor initially thought it was arthritis.

I'll admit, it's been a little discouraging.
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2020, 08:53:36 PM
Yes, I stretch well before I run, and I walk for a little bit to cool down after I'm finished.  And I do drink plenty of water.  That is at least one health habit I have kept over the years.

I always feel just fine after I run.  No cramping, no overly sore muscles, my joints don't ache... nothing.  It doesn't catch up to me until several days have gone by.  That's why my doctor initially thought it was arthritis.

I'll admit, it's been a little discouraging.

Sounds like something pretty normal mate.  It's normal for muscles to ache and get sore when doing regular exercise.  DOMS is real too (delayed onset muscle soreness). 

Stretch and roll after a big run too, not just before.
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Post by: Northern Lion on February 26, 2020, 07:31:41 AM
Yes, I stretch well before I run, and I walk for a little bit to cool down after I'm finished.  And I do drink plenty of water.  That is at least one health habit I have kept over the years.

I always feel just fine after I run.  No cramping, no overly sore muscles, my joints don't ache... nothing.  It doesn't catch up to me until several days have gone by.  That's why my doctor initially thought it was arthritis.

I'll admit, it's been a little discouraging.

Sounds like something pretty normal mate.  It's normal for muscles to ache and get sore when doing regular exercise.  DOMS is real too (delayed onset muscle soreness). 

Stretch and roll after a big run too, not just before.

Huh, I've never heard of that before.  I never used to stretch twice when I was younger, but I guess now that I'm older I may need to start doing that.

But this doesn't feel like the achy sore muscles from working out type of thing.  I like that feeling, it's quite a bit more intense than that.  I can't even get out of bed.  Luckily I work from home most days.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 03, 2020, 09:19:30 AM
I reached a new mile stone today.  I was able to jog an entire block!  Not only that, but when I stopped I felt like I could have kept going.  That is a first for me and it made me really excited.  And I was listening to Megadeth's Post American World when I did it  :metal.

Next week I will be able to begin jogging at the cemetery.

And I'm considering trying intermittent fasting.  I was wondering if any of you have had experience with this and if so what did you learn?
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Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2020, 09:53:49 AM
How's the pain, Brother Lion? Has it subsided? I was meaning to post about that last weekend, but I got a bit busy and forgot? I can get joint pain (right hip, left knee) if I walk/hike/jog/run on hard surfaces and don't do it correctly. In my early fifties I adopted the "zero drop" principle for cardio and all but eliminated the joint pain. I wonder, would something similar work for you?

Congrats on your milestone! Push ahead, brave soldier.

As for intermittent fasting, it's pretty simple and I do it a couple of times per week (usually, Tuesday and Thursday). After dinner the night before (preferably no later than 7:00 pm), only drink water and don't snack! When you get up the following morning, only drink water or black coffee/tea. Don't eat anything until about 1:00 pm. When you do eat, have a light lunch, a small snack a few hours later and a moderate sized healthy dinner.

One way folks ruin the positive effects of IF is by over eating before and after. Guard against that and you should feel pretty good doing it.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 03, 2020, 10:30:36 AM
How's the pain, Brother Lion? Has it subsided? I was meaning to post about that last weekend, but I got a bit busy and forgot? I can get joint pain (right hip, left knee) if I walk/hike/jog/run on hard surfaces and don't do it correctly. In my early fifties I adopted the "zero drop" principle for cardio and all but eliminated the joint pain. I wonder, would something similar work for you?

Congrats on your milestone! Push ahead, brave soldier.

As for intermittent fasting, it's pretty simple and I do it a couple of times per week (usually, Tuesday and Thursday). After dinner the night before (preferably no later than 7:00 pm), only drink water and don't snack! When you get up the following morning, only drink water or black coffee/tea. Don't eat anything until about 1:00 pm. When you do eat, have a light lunch, a small snack a few hours later and a moderate sized healthy dinner.

One way folks ruin the positive effects of IF is by over eating before and after. Guard against that and you should feel pretty good doing it.

Thanks for the advice and support Podaar, it means a lot  :tup.

I haven't had any pain the last 2 weeks, so I'm doing pretty good right now.  I had some more blood work done and it still came up negative.  I like jogging outside, but if it doesn't get any better I may need to invest in an excersize bike or elliptical.  And maybe all it is, is my body getting used to exercising again after many years of not doing it.

Either way,  I'm not going to stop jogging if it comes back.  I don't want anything getting in the way of me achieving my goals.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 10:41:48 AM
I've done IF a few times over the past decade (and I know wolfking has as well).  I went on a 10am-6pm schedule as the jingle.family ate dinner around 5:30 when my kids were younger.  The only benefit I found really was that I was consciously just curbing unnecessary calories at night, and keeping my water consumption pretty high - satiating myself thru water.  Studies will point out to the benefits or perils of IF.  I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but I never saw any noticeable difference by simply controlling the "when" aspect of my caloric intake.  IMO, the biggest thing that matters is cals in vs cals out.  I never found that 200-300 calories before 6pm or after 8pm hurt or helped me any differently.  Cutting those cals out completely is what helped.

So, IF in the context of simply eliminating those cals is the benefit I found.  If you simply move those cals to your IF period, you're still consuming the same amount of cals.

I dunno... that's just me.
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Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2020, 11:46:17 AM
Good points, Chad. I was kinda saying the same thing but just not as well as you did.

For me, personally, the benefit of IF is practicing will power. Learning that a little hunger pang isn't the end of the world or a call to gluttony. I enjoy reminding my cravings who's in charge and that many times a glass of water is as effective as a box of Hostess O's.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 11:48:30 AM
I once heard a saying (which, I doubt is true), but the feeling of hunger is the feeling of calories being burned.  That's what I would tell myself when I was on my weight-loss journey.
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 11:52:13 AM
Doesn't intermittent fasting just confuse your body and keeps it guessing when it will get fed again. My understanding is that your body will start storing stuff because of it.

I thought skipping meals, which intermittent fasting appears to be, was the worst thing you could do.
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Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2020, 12:01:29 PM
I've not heard that before, Tim... and it sounds a bit off to me. The worst thing you can do is consume more calories than you can possibly burn off. A twelve to fourteen hour fast isn't really that much longer than getting a good night's rest. Plus, it's called intermittent because it's not a regular thing.

:dunno:
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 12:06:08 PM
Isn't breakfast the most important meal of the day as it is the one that kickstarts your body's daily functions, digestive and otherwise?
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 12:31:35 PM
Gregg, I've honestly never heard of intermittent fasting, but I did just read an article about it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/intermittent-fasting-tips#1

I mean, I'm sure there's a million articles, right? This one talks about a feeding window of 12 hours. I mean, that makes sense. 6am-6pm or something like that. It does say to not skip breakfast.


My understanding was that you should never keep your body guessing. If you train it long term, that makes for sense.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 03, 2020, 12:38:58 PM
I've done IF a few times over the past decade (and I know wolfking has as well).  I went on a 10am-6pm schedule as the jingle.family ate dinner around 5:30 when my kids were younger.  The only benefit I found really was that I was consciously just curbing unnecessary calories at night, and keeping my water consumption pretty high - satiating myself thru water.  Studies will point out to the benefits or perils of IF.  I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but I never saw any noticeable difference by simply controlling the "when" aspect of my caloric intake.  IMO, the biggest thing that matters is cals in vs cals out.  I never found that 200-300 calories before 6pm or after 8pm hurt or helped me any differently.  Cutting those cals out completely is what helped.

So, IF in the context of simply eliminating those cals is the benefit I found.  If you simply move those cals to your IF period, you're still consuming the same amount of cals.

I dunno... that's just me.

That's what I'm thinking in my head.  I'm hoping that if my eating window is less, then my total calories will be less also.  I do a lot of snacking at night so this would help me curb that.  At least, that's what I hope.  But I really don't know that much about it and need to do more research.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 12:49:41 PM
Just remember .... the body often confuses the feeling of hunger and the feeling of thirst.  Drink more water at night, and in the morning.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 03, 2020, 01:03:40 PM
Running a Trail Half Marathon this sunday....it's a race I've ran every spring since 2012. It's called the 'Quivering Quads' because the State Park it's ran in (Quiver River) is nothing but hills.

Every year while I'm running it I think to myself 'Why the  :censored am I doing this?'.....but then, when I finish the race I'm always glad I did. Weather is looking nice for the week and this weekend so it should be a good one
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 01:14:54 PM
God I hate running.   :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 01:25:03 PM
Sounds brutal.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 03, 2020, 01:29:21 PM
God I hate running.   :lol

Me too, my knees and ankles aren't the best thanks to genetics which is why I use a bike for my cardio.  But that's awesome Gary to keep at it again, and of course that feeling of completing something challenging is great.

As for intermittent fasting, I've been doing that Monday - Thursday at work which is really fairly simple for me to control.  I hold off lunch or any food until at least 2pm, sometimes pushing it out further if I don't actually feel hungry come 2pm and then usually have dinner around 9pm with maybe a snack afterwards if I'm still feeling hungry by 10pm and my daily intake is around 1-1.5k calories on these days with a 15-20 minute bike ride at night.  I really really struggle with sleeping on an empty stomach but I find these ~100-150 calorie fiber one bars really help curb my hunger for a late night snack and they aren't too bad for you.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 03, 2020, 01:42:39 PM
But that's awesome Gary to keep at it again, and of course that feeling of completing something challenging is great.

This is the addicting part. As I age, the running is just getting to be more hard on my body.....but oddly, I enjoy running. But my mileage has decreased over the past year or so.....I used to run 4 or 5 days a week.....5 miles a pop. Nowday's I'm 2-3 times a week and the loop I do is a hair over 4.5 miles.

So, this sunday will be the first time I've ran over 4.5 miles since I ran this race last spring  :lol  while I like running, I don't like training for long races. I've ran enough of them to know that no matter what your body/legs at some point tell you 'I'm done'.....and that's when the real battle starts. I can handle that part....and that's where the text I bolded in your quote above comes in
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Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2020, 02:41:35 PM
Thanks for the article, Tim. It was interesting, but didn't really say much different from what I wrote to Brother Lion...except, perhaps that I have the occasional "eating window" compressed a bit too much. I'll keep that in mind going forward.

I think what is important is that we each develop healthy eating habits in the way that works best us as individuals. My posts aren't meant to be, nor should they be, seen as authoritative. It's simply what has worked best for me and I'm sharing in the spirit of giving and receiving support. I have no interest in convincing anyone of anything, really.

@Gary. Excellent work, my brotha! Do you try to run with "zero drop" or the "barefoot" method? What are your thoughts on the possible benefit to lessening impact damage to your sexy self?

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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2020, 03:08:16 PM
Gregg, I've honestly never heard of intermittent fasting, but I did just read an article about it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/intermittent-fasting-tips#1

I mean, I'm sure there's a million articles, right? This one talks about a feeding window of 12 hours. I mean, that makes sense. 6am-6pm or something like that. It does say to not skip breakfast.


My understanding was that you should never keep your body guessing. If you train it long term, that makes for sense.

If anything, I like to keep my body guessing all the time.  Some days if I start at 5am I won't eat until 12pm and have a IF day.  Today, I'm at home and just had bacon and eggs for breakfast at 7:30am.  With years of weight loss and training, I've discovered that people try and use things like IF, even some fad types of eating (even though I'm practicing semi keto) as a bit of a clutch or quick fix without knowing the true meaning of why they are unfit and overweight. 

One needs to really look at themselves with what they eat and how they train.  A fad diet or IF isn't going to magically make people lose weight get in shape and stay that way.  But people want to lie to themselves and make excuses.  From trying so many different things, it's really as Chad said, calories in and out.  How you do that is up to you and things like IF help just so you can compound more calories in one or two sittings.  On Saturdays and Sundays, I still don't eat until 5pm.  Maybe a coffee in the arvo, but that means I can eat more what I want in a big eating session, have a cheat, some ice cream, a donut, feel full and satisfied without going thousands of calories over.

So, IF isn't some magic trick, it's just a tool to help control how many calories are eaten in a day IMO.  Yes, there's research about fasting does things to you blood etc. etc. but I don't really read a lot into that.

Breakfast means 'break fast' also, so technically, if I haven't eaten and my first meal is a 5pm, that's breakfast.  Don't be fooled by what the mainstream media tells us about 3 meals a day and all the shit.  As Podaar said, you have do what works for you.  It takes years to really learn and find what works also from my experience.
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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2020, 03:10:28 PM
Running a Trail Half Marathon this sunday....it's a race I've ran every spring since 2012. It's called the 'Quivering Quads' because the State Park it's ran in (Quiver River) is nothing but hills.

Every year while I'm running it I think to myself 'Why the  :censored am I doing this?'.....but then, when I finish the race I'm always glad I did. Weather is looking nice for the week and this weekend so it should be a good one

Sounds awesome mate.


God I hate running.   :lol

I use to think like that, but love it right now.  Even after my nightly weights sessions I'm putting in a couple of km on the treadmill.  Seeing my aerobic fitness increase is great motivation.  I also love my 8-10km runs on the weekend.  A lot of running means a lot more cheating on the weekend without any damage at all and still losing fat.  That's a poor mentality and harkens back to my eating disorder days, but it is what it is.
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 03:49:41 PM
Thanks for the article, Tim. It was interesting, but didn't really say much different from what I wrote to Brother Lion...except, perhaps that I have the occasional "eating window" compressed a bit too much. I'll keep that in mind going forward.

I think what is important is that we each develop healthy eating habits in the way that works best us as individuals. My posts aren't meant to be, nor should they be, seen as authoritative. It's simply what has worked best for me and I'm sharing in the spirit of giving and receiving support. I have no interest in convincing anyone of anything, really.

Totally. I didn't take it that way. I've honestly never heard of "IF", and I've always been under the impression that skipping meals is not good long term.

I've been diabetic for 20+ years, so I try and pay attention. My wife is (not licensed) but is what I would consider a nutrition expert. I am online every night listening to music and shit, and she is online every night studying nutrition. That is when she's not exercising.



Breakfast means 'break fast' also,

W-O-A-H!


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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 03, 2020, 03:56:19 PM
@Gary. Excellent work, my brotha! Do you try to run with "zero drop" or the "barefoot" method? What are your thoughts on the possible benefit to lessening impact damage to your sexy self?

I never have. I’ve seen some guys run barefoot and a few with those neoprene skin tight sock/shoe looking foot ware....but I’ve never done it.

I buy Trail Running tennis shoes......usually the ‘minumus’ style......meaning they are very light weight but still have the durable and textured soles. I’ve read where barefoot is actually a good approach if you can train into running that way. I just have never thought to do it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 05:10:18 PM
I used to do some treadmill wind-sprints... found this really neat/fun 12-minute cycle of different bursts of speed and duration, but I just don't enjoy running.  Sprinting is ok - there's a nice artificial turf field at the local high-school which is a 5 minute bike ride away, and in the summertime, I'd go there for some fresh outdoor HIIT that often involved some sprints.  But rather have a root canal than run long distances as a steady state activity.

I do have the 'five-fingers' shoes, and I love using those for sprinting activity.  I need arch supports for leg and HIIT routines, but otherwise, they work fine as general purpose exercise footwear.  They were especially convenient when I was traveling a lot - not as bulky in the suitcase.

I think we all agree that, whether it's eating or exercise, everyone should do what they enjoy and what works for them such that it's possible to maintain healthy habits.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 04, 2020, 06:53:09 AM
I used to do some treadmill wind-sprints... found this really neat/fun 12-minute cycle of different bursts of speed and duration, but I just don't enjoy running.  Sprinting is ok - there's a nice artificial turf field at the local high-school which is a 5 minute bike ride away, and in the summertime, I'd go there for some fresh outdoor HIIT that often involved some sprints.  But rather have a root canal than run long distances as a steady state activity.

I do have the 'five-fingers' shoes, and I love using those for sprinting activity.  I need arch supports for leg and HIIT routines, but otherwise, they work fine as general purpose exercise footwear.  They were especially convenient when I was traveling a lot - not as bulky in the suitcase.

I think we all agree that, whether it's eating or exercise, everyone should do what they enjoy and what works for them such that it's possible to maintain healthy habits.

 :lol  My wife feels the same way you do.  She doesn't understand how I can enjoy jogging.  And Frankly, I don't understand it either.  But I do for some reason.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 04, 2020, 07:36:25 AM
I used to love jogging before my hips went to shit. If you're running at a comfortable pace that you can maintain for the duration of your workout, it's basically like going for a nice walk but covering more distance. We have fantastic trails (both paved and natural) throughout our river valley, so I found it quite relaxing. It's all about knowing your sweet spot in terms of pacing.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 04, 2020, 08:54:20 AM
I used to love jogging before my hips went to shit. If you're running at a comfortable pace that you can maintain for the duration of your workout, it's basically like going for a nice walk but covering more distance. We have fantastic trails (both paved and natural) throughout our river valley, so I found it quite relaxing. It's all about knowing your sweet spot in terms of pacing.

Yep. I’m by no means a ‘fast’ runner. My trail run pace these days is around 9:30 a mile....maybe 10:00 if it’s really demanding terrain? If I’m road running it’s a bit quicker pace but not ‘fast’ when compared to runners who are really going for it.

I have a pace that is challenging enough to maintain to where it’s a workout but not so bad to where I can still enjoy a run.
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Post by: H2 on March 04, 2020, 10:45:32 AM
Chiming in to say running is so great. I'm at about 3mi every other day. I feel close to being back to my fit self, as I was a few years ago. I was like 155lb or so and running 4-5 miles a day and had a six pack and everything. Then I went on a stupid bulk and got to like 185lb. And now I'm basically back down to 155lb, and I'm actually stronger in many ways, but my body has...changed somehow. Like I've got fat and creases in places that I didn't before. Can't stand it. I'mma keep on running.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 04, 2020, 03:16:13 PM
I like HIIT. Distance/endurance running isn't my bag, baby. Kudos to those who do it, but I like weed too much to do more than HIIT.  :lol

A few days ago I ran out of coffee creamer and just decided not to buy more. I hate drinking coffee plain though (I forgot to buy more sugar/sweetener *and* was out of milk). Hooray, less sugar! But... to replace the creamer, I rekindled my obsession with biscotti. Great.  :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 04, 2020, 07:46:23 PM
What does HIIT stand for?
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 04, 2020, 10:29:30 PM
What does HIIT stand for?
High intensity interval training.

I like both HITT and long steady state sessions, the latter of which do on a bicycle. I think the endurance cardio is essential to overall fitness. I use HITT workouts for strength training. Similar to CrossFit, but without the injuries or cult membership
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2020, 07:35:45 AM
 :rollin
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Post by: Podaar on March 05, 2020, 08:47:58 AM
So, four weeks ago I got measured for a new custom suit (all my current suits were way too baggy). I got it yesterday afternoon and it's beautiful. Medium gray, wool and Kashmir blend, purple lining...sweet. A new pale purple shirt to go along with it. The damned pants are a bit loose in the waist and the jacket is quite loose in the belly! Now, my weight hasn't changed an ounce in the last four weeks, but when I took it back to the tailor this morning he remeasured me and said I'm an inch smaller in my waist and three inches smaller in my belly. We've decided to not alter the suit for a couple of months to see how much more my body changes. I know, first world problems.

I had a great workout this morning. Yoga, lots of leg work and then a quick HIIT session with the weights. All before 7:00 am. Feels great!
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2020, 10:30:57 AM
Awesome stuff Gregg.
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Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
So, four weeks ago I got measured for a new custom suit (all my current suits were way too baggy). I got it yesterday afternoon and it's beautiful. Medium gray, wool and Kashmir blend, purple lining...sweet. A new pale purple shirt to go along with it. The damned pants are a bit loose in the waist and the jacket is quite loose in the belly! Now, my weight hasn't changed an ounce in the last four weeks, but when I took it back to the tailor this morning he remeasured me and said I'm an inch smaller in my waist and three inches smaller in my belly. We've decided to not alter the suit for a couple of months to see how much more my body changes. I know, first world problems.

I had a great workout this morning. Yoga, lots of leg work and then a quick HIIT session with the weights. All before 7:00 am. Feels great!

Awesome stuff mate.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on March 06, 2020, 02:42:32 AM
Love it when that happens! Also, the color combination sounds gorgeous. Men in purple =  :metal
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Post by: Podaar on March 06, 2020, 06:14:35 AM
Love it when that happens! Also, the color combination sounds gorgeous. Men in purple =  :metal

My thinking on the purple is that Mrs. P primarily wears black and/or shades of dark purple through navy as evening wear. The grey is light enough to be casual/formal and should pair well with her preferred color scheme. I know it sounds weird, or a little...creepy, but I like our clothing to complement each other. Or rather, I avoid having our clothing clash.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 06, 2020, 08:04:25 AM
Love it when that happens! Also, the color combination sounds gorgeous. Men in purple =  :metal

Deep Purple  :biggrin:
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 06, 2020, 08:15:10 AM
So, four weeks ago I got measured for a new custom suit (all my current suits were way too baggy). I got it yesterday afternoon and it's beautiful. Medium gray, wool and Kashmir blend, purple lining...sweet. A new pale purple shirt to go along with it. The damned pants are a bit loose in the waist and the jacket is quite loose in the belly! Now, my weight hasn't changed an ounce in the last four weeks, but when I took it back to the tailor this morning he remeasured me and said I'm an inch smaller in my waist and three inches smaller in my belly. We've decided to not alter the suit for a couple of months to see how much more my body changes. I know, first world problems.

I had a great workout this morning. Yoga, lots of leg work and then a quick HIIT session with the weights. All before 7:00 am. Feels great!

Awesome stuff mate.

Yeah....this is very cool Gregg  :tup
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on March 07, 2020, 05:56:28 AM
I know it sounds weird, or a little...creepy, but I like our clothing to complement each other. Or rather, I avoid having our clothing clash.
It's not weird or creepy, it's nice. Whenever you're in a group photo, you'll make it better just by matching each other, that's something everyone can appreciate.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2020, 04:54:33 AM
Only a 2km Saturday swim and 8km Sunday run this week.  The amount of training I'm doing daily is catching up on me.  Loving the high fat low carb thing through the week though.  Has done absolute wonders for my hormones I think.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2020, 05:12:49 AM
Only a 2km Saturday swim and 8km Sunday run this week.  The amount of training I'm doing daily is catching up on me.  Loving the high fat low carb thing through the week though.  Has done absolute wonders for my hormones I think.

You're gonna have to expand on this.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2020, 05:36:17 AM
Only a 2km Saturday swim and 8km Sunday run this week.  The amount of training I'm doing daily is catching up on me.  Loving the high fat low carb thing through the week though.  Has done absolute wonders for my hormones I think.

You're gonna have to expand on this.

Alright, I've made it pretty clear in the past that I had a borderline eating disorder.  I was around 120kg at my heaviest and when I started training wanted to strip down.  I had no foundation as I never did a single bit of exercise until I was about 28.  I had no idea what I was doing so learned about nutrition as I went.  I was losing weight which I thought was good as the scale was dropping.

Whatever strength I gained in my short time in the gym was going and was losing the strength rapidly.  I thought this was okay, but it's not.  I would hate to think what my caloric intake was but it was low, and I wasn't seeing how much weight I was losing, I just wanted to lose more.  The misses was getting worried and said one day how thin I was and something needed to change.  She said I looked 'hungry' all the time.  Saw a photo and it shocked me.  Battling food addiction to going the complete opposite direction was a rollercoaster and now I had to put weight back on.  At that point I was about 67kgs at 6'2.'  Thin as fuck.  Thought I had to keep losing to see muscle, but I just fucking had none, that's why I was thin and still looking like shit.  During this time, my sexual function was awful.  Couldn't get it up and when I could, couldn't keep it up and premature as hell.  Having this at like 30-32 years old was shocking and I felt like there was nothing I could do.  My diet at the time was consisting mainly of some chicken and mostly green salad.  Maybe an egg or two here and there and a protein shake here and there.  Thinking back now, the fat intake was non existent.

I then fought with my body dysmorphia and started eating more.  I got eventually back up to 85kg.  Strength went up but so did the fat but I had to get some sort of foundation back in the gym.  I looked fine and got some good strength going.  This was all over a number of years obviously being 35 now.  I decided about 6 months ago to try and cut a little again to see if I had made any progress and if I could strip and look better with a bit of muscle this time.  This time really concentrated on what I was doing and watched my strength.  As soon as I felt a little weak, have a refeed or short break.  Anyway, now, I'm down to about 76kg and while very lean, look SO much better than the last time around.  I'm stronger than I was and my running is there which is wasn't before.  before I was that thin but couldn't run 500m without passing out. 

Now, since adding the fat, thanks to Gregg really inspiring the keto back a couple months back I must say, I feel my testosterone is higher than it's ever been.  I'm still cutting yet in some lifts I'm stronger and getting stronger again.  My performances in the bedroom I'm being told are the best ever and sex has been the best in 14 years, and I think that's an achievement.  Without going into detail, it's amazing what I'm able to do now compared to a few years ago.  I really think it comes down to the fat content in my diet.  I feel it's restarted my hormones and feel almost 18 again, maybe better.  It took me years to really understand nutrition and what I was doing and dealing with body dysmorphia along with borderline anorexia but getting over those hurdles has been quite a journey.  While still learning even now over the last 6 months and this higher fat thing right now.

I'll add sleep too.  I'm getting good sleep but making sure you're getting 8 hours a night is critical also.  I don't get that a lot with work, but luckily I haven't suffered, the diet is keeping things working regardless.  Yet, if I need to get up at 4am, I'm in bed by 9pm if I can.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2020, 06:30:06 AM
That's all awesome dude.  :hifive:

I'm really interested in doing some manner of Keto as well, as I'd like to get under the 15%-ish bodyfat that I'm at currently. I'm about as "skinny" as I've ever been in my life - without any sacrifice of my strength.  But I still look in the mirror and see that I'm "skinny-fat"... or fat-skinny?  I'm not sure which  :lol.  Muscle wise, I really judge my appearance by my triceps.  Can I see that nice horseshoe with the tail coming down at my elbow?  Kinda, but not really.  I very much want to shred some fat while maintaining my current strength.

So, I'm on a routine right now that's called 'max-shred'.  25-minute (or so) HIIT routines that are anaerobic in nature, but keep the heart firing. 5 days per week. Today's routine consists of 5 rounds of the following - each to be done for one minute / failure, and at failure, hold plank until the minute is up

Pushups
DB Renegade Rows
Twisting Pistons
Floor Jacks (going up and down from traditional plank to elbow plank with each 'jack' - one side at a time).
10 x Man-maker.  Not sure if this is a common name for the exercise, but it's an intense compound movement... Burpee-->renegade row-->pushup-->renegade row-->pushup-->hop up to a squat thrust.  My goal is to do these with 30lb dbs
Rest 60 seconds

Jesus fuck I'm not looking forward to this (but I am).  I think I'll be taking longer than a 60-second rest between each round.  Probably let my heart rate get down to 130 or something in that range.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: Podaar on March 08, 2020, 10:32:49 AM
Excellent post, Wolfking! Very inspiring.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: cramx3 on March 08, 2020, 12:17:33 PM
Excellent post, Wolfking! Very inspiring.

Indeed!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 08, 2020, 01:14:02 PM
Trail Half went alright. Not the fastest time I’ve ever posted for this race but I stayed moving the whole time. BEAUTIFUL day in St. Louis......sunny and upper 60’s for most of the race....I think it was low 70’s when I finished.

There was an aid station right at mile 8.....and a few hundred yards after I passed it my legs said to me “hey Gary.....have fun the rest of the way”  :lol   I think that’s where actually training for these races would help. So the last five miles was a much slower pace than what I had been at up to that point.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2020, 02:34:50 PM
Excellent post, Wolfking! Very inspiring.

Kade is the first name mate.  :tup

Yeah, it's been a long hard road over the last 7 years and still have a long long way to go but will just keep going.

My biggest regret is not getting into the gym 10 years earlier in my prime.  Starting so late definitely put me on the back foot.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2020, 02:36:56 PM
Trail Half went alright. Not the fastest time I’ve ever posted for this race but I stayed moving the whole time. BEAUTIFUL day in St. Louis......sunny and upper 60’s for most of the race....I think it was low 70’s when I finished.

There was an aid station right at mile 8.....and a few hundred yards after I passed it my legs said to me “hey Gary.....have fun the rest of the way”  :lol   I think that’s where actually training for these races would help. So the last five miles was a much slower pace than what I had been at up to that point.

Nice mate.  At this point I can't even finish a 13km run let alone a 13 mile run.  One day I will.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 11, 2020, 05:04:08 PM
I looked at google maps and plotted out a mile in my neighborhood.  Then I decided to see how much of it I was able to jog.  I ran the whole thing!

I expected this to take me a whole year to achieve.  And the best part, I wasn't overly tired and could have still run more if I wanted.  Not bad for a fat guy.  :tup

It took me 12 some odd minutes, but I'd have to say I'm pretty proud of myself.  And thanks to all of you for the support.  I don't think I could have done it without your push.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 11, 2020, 05:10:06 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on March 11, 2020, 05:13:58 PM
Plenty of kids in my high school struggled to make a mile in under 12-13. 8 was the benchmark most of us normies strove for. So with that in mind, 12 minutes when you thought it'd take you all year to do the mile? Man, that's freaking awesome, dude. Feel proud. You're already way ahead of where you thought you were!! Keep it up!! :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 11, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
Plenty of kids in my high school struggled to make a mile in under 12-13. 8 was the benchmark most of us normies strove for. So with that in mind, 12 minutes when you thought it'd take you all year to do the mile? Man, that's freaking awesome, dude. Feel proud. You're already way ahead of where you thought you were!! Keep it up!! :biggrin:

Yeah, I was a hefty mo-fo in high school, and was always somewhere around 11 minutes.  12 is pretty impressive for your circumstances Brother Lion.   :tup
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 02:32:13 PM
I looked at google maps and plotted out a mile in my neighborhood.  Then I decided to see how much of it I was able to jog.  I ran the whole thing!

I expected this to take me a whole year to achieve.  And the best part, I wasn't overly tired and could have still run more if I wanted.  Not bad for a fat guy.  :tup

It took me 12 some odd minutes, but I'd have to say I'm pretty proud of myself.  And thanks to all of you for the support.  I don't think I could have done it without your push.

That's awesome mate.  Now just keep going.  Everyday keep pushing yourself and go that one better, good work.

That time for a beginner is pretty fine too.  I don't work in miles but I've gotten a km down to about a 5 minutes 15-20 sec average so for a mile, probably looking at around 7 minutes 45 sec to 8 minutes I'd say.
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Post by: Northern Lion on March 12, 2020, 04:28:37 PM
Thanks everyone!  I plan to keep going.  I'm going to try to get to 2 miles next.  Also, I want opinions on what I should add to my workout?  I don't have a gym membership and I haven't net bought any home gym equipment.  I was thinking of pushups or situps.  Any recomendations?
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 12, 2020, 07:33:49 PM
Thanks everyone!  I plan to keep going.  I'm going to try to get to 2 miles next.  Also, I want opinions on what I should add to my workout?  I don't have a gym membership and I haven't net bought any home gym equipment.  I was thinking of pushups or situps.  Any recomendations?
Do a 'deck of cards' workout. Each suit represents an exercise, and the value is reps. My standard is push ups, sit ups, squats and burpees. You can do "easier" decks by having the reps go 1-13 for ace through king. Or you can make it harder by having Jacks be 15, Queens 20 and Kings 25, or some other variation. I like to leave the jokers in and make them 5 of each exercise.

They're a really intense workout, and the randomness makes it fun. Well, sort of anyway. Just remember: the cards giveth and the cards taketh away
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 12, 2020, 08:28:07 PM
Thanks everyone!  I plan to keep going.  I'm going to try to get to 2 miles next.  Also, I want opinions on what I should add to my workout?  I don't have a gym membership and I haven't net bought any home gym equipment.  I was thinking of pushups or situps.  Any recomendations?
Do a 'deck of cards' workout. Each suit represents an exercise, and the value is reps. My standard is push ups, sit ups, squats and burpees. You can do "easier" decks by having the reps go 1-13 for ace through king. Or you can make it harder by having Jacks be 15, Queens 20 and Kings 25, or some other variation. I like to leave the jokers in and make them 5 of each exercise.

They're a really intense workout, and the randomness makes it fun. Well, sort of anyway. Just remember: the cards giveth and the cards taketh away

Man, even I don't go that crazy!

Brother Lion... deck of cards are fun to do, and give a goal (reps and time) to measure against.  But be aware, If Jacks=11 / Queens=12 / Kings=13 / Aces=14... equates to 105 reps of each movement.  It's intense, even for fit people.

My recommendation would be 3x10 of body-weight squats, pushups (from your knees if necessary), and situps.  Or, if 3x10 is something you can already perform, find out what your failure rep count is.  Then rest and do 2-3 more sets trying to get to that.  It doesn't have to be complete/total failure - simply feeling like you're virtually exhausted is sufficient.  Most people usually have a few more reps in them at that point, but you don't have to go to total failure.
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 03:49:28 PM
13km run yesterday (8 miles).  Time was 1 hour 19 minutes and 8 seconds.  6 minutes a km, pretty slow but still alright since I was pacing for a bigger run.  I don't know how people run marathons, jeez.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 15, 2020, 05:19:35 PM
I've felt so damn tired lately that my work outs have taken a bit of a back seat.  I've been pretty damn good with just dieting though.  I weighed in around 186 today.  Getting close to 50lbs down.  Just did some bike riding today, I've been trying to do at least a little of that every day and I'm surprised I'm still losing given I have my cheat days too on the weekend. 

Well, part of that being tired was that I had to work an overnight on Wednesday and my job put me up in a hotel.  The bathroom had a much better and bigger mirror than anything I have at home and it was the first time in awhile that I looked at my whole body not distorted and I can't recall ever seeing my legs so thin.  I still have a belly but it seems my legs which have always been fairly thick (it's a trait of my dad's side) actually not be so thick.  I always didn't mind my legs having some meat on them and would rather attack that belly but I was and am a bit amazed at how skinny my legs are getting.  Also, my arms and wrists.  Seems the extremities are getting hit the most with killing fat.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2020, 06:35:29 PM
That's fantastic Marc!  You're gonna be lighter than me in a couple of weeks at this pace.  I weighed in at 182.4 this week.  Had a strong week with my diet - I've converted breakfast to be a 2-scoop protein shake (with almond milk), 1/2 cup of greek yogurt, and 20g of almonds.  Along with a few glasses of water, that fills me quite nicely until 1-ish

Workouts have been strong - I skipped today, because I did a crap load of hard yard-work today - lots of digging into some seriously hard dirt/clay.  Wrapped up with a beer on the porch - even though it was only 4oC.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 15, 2020, 07:50:37 PM
The gym is empty right now! OMG!! Wait... it's always like this.  :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2020, 07:54:53 PM
  Getting close to 50lbs down. 


:clap:


That's awesome!!
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 15, 2020, 08:10:22 PM
up with a beer on the porch - even though it was only 4oC.
Screw you lol. It's -17oC in Edmonton today. I still braved the cold for a 90 minute mtb session though
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2020, 08:12:06 PM
up with a beer on the porch - even though it was only 4oC.
Screw you lol. It's -17oC in Edmonton today. I still braved the cold for a 90 minute mtb session though

Yeah, I saw that Alberta got clobbered.  -33C in Calgary!!   :omg:
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Post by: cramx3 on March 16, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
That's fantastic Marc!  You're gonna be lighter than me in a couple of weeks at this pace.  I weighed in at 182.4 this week.  Had a strong week with my diet - I've converted breakfast to be a 2-scoop protein shake (with almond milk), 1/2 cup of greek yogurt, and 20g of almonds.  Along with a few glasses of water, that fills me quite nicely until 1-ish

Workouts have been strong - I skipped today, because I did a crap load of hard yard-work today - lots of digging into some seriously hard dirt/clay.  Wrapped up with a beer on the porch - even though it was only 4oC.

Thanks, I might get lighter but I will still be fatter based on our height differences.  I'm actually wondering how much of my belly is fat vs just excess skin as disgusting as that sounds.  My belly is just so flabby but even in that area, I am seeing some improvements.  Also have been solid in that last belt buckle for a couple weeks now.  Next up would be a new belt (for the second time) but I don't see that on the horizon anytime soon since I wear my belt/pants just under my belly which means there's not much to loose there anymore.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2020, 12:59:15 PM
That's fantastic Marc!  You're gonna be lighter than me in a couple of weeks at this pace.  I weighed in at 182.4 this week.  Had a strong week with my diet - I've converted breakfast to be a 2-scoop protein shake (with almond milk), 1/2 cup of greek yogurt, and 20g of almonds.  Along with a few glasses of water, that fills me quite nicely until 1-ish

Workouts have been strong - I skipped today, because I did a crap load of hard yard-work today - lots of digging into some seriously hard dirt/clay.  Wrapped up with a beer on the porch - even though it was only 4oC.

Thanks, I might get lighter but I will still be fatter based on our height differences.  I'm actually wondering how much of my belly is fat vs just excess skin as disgusting as that sounds.  My belly is just so flabby but even in that area, I am seeing some improvements.  Also have been solid in that last belt buckle for a couple weeks now.  Next up would be a new belt (for the second time) but I don't see that on the horizon anytime soon since I wear my belt/pants just under my belly which means there's not much to loose there anymore.

You'd be surprised.  That's how I wear my pants, and in the winter I had to buy 32' waist jeans for like the first time since I was probably 11 - I was always a porky kid.  For most of my adult life, I'd been 38'... then 36' when I first lost a bunch of weight 13 years ago ... dropped to 34' a couple years ago, and now 32'.  Not that I really trust the labels - I firmly believe a 32' today is the same as a 34' of 10 years ago.  Clothing manufacturers know how to stroke the ego.  :lol
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Post by: The Walrus on March 16, 2020, 01:24:26 PM
Marc, I'm so happy for you. It's awesome to read your progress!

Can we talk caffeine withdrawals? I have a very unhealthy relationship with caffeine; at this point, I've had an unhealthy obsession with energy drinks (Monster, particularly) for almost half my life which is a little sobering from that perspective. Anyway, I always make a large coffee or cappuccino to start my day, then I have between 1-3 Monsters throughout the day to keep me awake and energized at work; the more physical activity, the more I consume to stay alert and then go to the gym later. Well last week I inadvertently abruptly stopped the energy drinks, and although I had a couple over the weekend, I believe the drastic reduction in caffeine contributed to these constant, dull headaches in the back left of my head.

So I took a very long nap on my lunch today, about 45 minutes of my hour, laying in bed. When I got up and back to work, the headache was returning, but I popped a Monster Zero Ultra and as of right now, the headache is gone. Leg is restless, though, I mean hopping mad jittery, but I feel normal again. (I always drink Monster Rehabs which have 10 calories, no sugar, are non-carbonated, and made with tea, but I slipped into the sugary deliciousness recently, unfortunately)

So I guess I'm going to have 'wean' myself off caffeine which I haven't had to do in years. Ugh. But, I suppose it's for the best, and I need to use this as a chance to ditch the energy drinks for good. I am getting concerned about my blood pressure even though I don't check it.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 16, 2020, 02:14:09 PM
I don't have much advice to offer for caffeine addiction, but sounds like you know you need to find a way to combat it.  I'd say start by stopping with the energy drinks and move to coffee.  Much better for your body.  That monster stuff is really really bad for you especially if you are drinking such large amounts of it.  I think if you just switched your source of caffeine you may be better off without even limiting it.  I get my own caffiene withdrawal if I don't have any throughout a day with a headache.  I drink two cups of coffee every day.  Occasionally only 1 or 3.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 16, 2020, 02:20:26 PM
I don't have much advice to offer for caffeine addiction, but sounds like you know you need to find a way to combat it.  I'd say start by stopping with the energy drinks and move to coffee.  Much better for your body.  That monster stuff is really really bad for you especially if you are drinking such large amounts of it.  I think if you just switched your source of caffeine you may be better off without even limiting it.  I get my own caffiene withdrawal if I don't have any throughout a day with a headache.  I drink two cups of coffee every day.  Occasionally only 1 or 3.

That's good advice, I was considering that, since the headaches are a real buzzkill, and I'm not sure how I'd fare without replacing it with something. Each can has 140mg caffeine, so on a really bad day that's 420mg from 3 monsters plus whatever is in the big coffee mug I make in the morning. Yeah, that's bad.
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Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2020, 02:24:51 PM
I haven't posted in here recently but I've been reading and just want to say; @ Brother Lion, excellent!  :tup :tup; @ Kade, awesome!  :tup :tup; @ Cram, spectacular  :tup :tup :tup. @ Chad, cool.  :tup.

Ya'll are inspiring!

Katt,

I had a similar issue with coffee/caffeine a few years ago. I would literally drink 1-1/2 large pots of coffee per day.  It put a lot of strain on my kidneys and contributed mightily to a slight ulceration in by stomach. I'm down to one cup per morning now.

I kicked the habit by cutting to one cup and then treating the headaches with a couple of ibuprofen for a few days. I don't miss the caffeine any more. I hope something like that works for you.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2020, 02:53:17 PM
WTH... only 1  :tup for me.   :sad:   :lol

Anyway... I'm on board with restricting caffeine.  I try to limit myself to 2 cups in the morning, and 1-2 in the afternoon.  Though, I'm trying to wean off of that afternoon caffeine periodically.  I've actually not had any coffee since this morning.  I do find myself brewing decaf in the late morning, as I like to have a hot cup of something to sip at while working.

Ironically, as I start to type this, I feel a bit of a headache brewing.  If I go without for 24+ hours, I definitely feel it.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 16, 2020, 03:27:58 PM
I drink entirely too much caffeine. I start the day off with a 40 oz tumbler...that usually tides me through until 11ish. If I'm at my office I'll have anywhere from 2-5 single serve cups.....if I'm out and about at job sites and meetings then most of the time none. I'll then make another 40 oz tumbler around 6ish that I'll finish up around 9ish.

so I'm easily 80 oz of coffee a day....some days a tad more. Straight black, and the night cap tumbler is usually pretty light on the brew. I just really like coffee.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 16, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Coffee has actually been a huge help for me in my diet.  Drinking it black so it's essentially 0 calories and it helps me not feel hungry, I am often tempted to drink more than my 2 cups (and on the days I feel the hungriest is when I push to 3 cups).  But I really don't want to get myself anymore addicted than I already am so I have yet to have a 4 cup day and really hope I don't ever feel that urge.  One thing that has helped me is to not drink a full cup at once, put it aside and reheat and finish it off an hour or two later to help with the mental side of needing to put food/drinks in my mouth. 
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Post by: The Walrus on March 16, 2020, 03:34:45 PM
Ewww, reheated coffee! Never been able to get on board with that.  :lol

My headaches have been gone all afternoon but I think I'm still gonna take a nap when I get home in a few. Going to take the advice here and try to wean off slowly. Thanks for the tips, guys.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 16, 2020, 03:40:12 PM
To be fair, I use cheap k-cups so the coffee is never really that good to begin with  :lol I'm actually relatively new to coffee only having started drinking it about 5 years ago.  I used to drink a lot of soda to get my caffeine fix and when I cut that from my diet completely, I finally started drinking coffee and not really liking it so I put so much cream and sugar in them to make them taste good.  Over time, I've come to enjoy it and even with eliminating all the extras, I've still found I can enjoy the cheap black coffee so I choose also not to spoil myself.  I'd hate myself if I came to be a coffee snob only for the fact that it will cost me more money.
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Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2020, 03:47:37 PM
WTH... only 1  :tup for me.   :sad:   :lol

You've already reached the pinnacle, my man. You only need a slight 'atta boy'.
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Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2020, 04:10:08 PM
To Kade (and anyone else who's thinking of the Keto diet)

Mrs. P and I discovered something that, while not a pitfall, is worth considering. I think I've mentioned that we've only focused on the ratio of fat/protein/carbs (roughly 70/25/5 %) in our food...with the caveat that we stay in the 20g of carbs per day range. It has worked well and we are both closer to our weight goals, but we both have stalled recently. I think I also mentioned that I've stayed the same weight for over a month. Well, last week we both noticed that we were gaining weight again. I put on five unanticipated pounds and Mrs. P six!

That's when I had the idea that we may just be eating too many calories. We started counting up what we were consuming compared to what we can reasonably expect to burn given our activity levels. As you know, high fat foods (even though we avoid trans fats) are loaded with calories. It adds up quick and I found that we were eating about 20% more than we should. Of course, just exercising more would take care of the issue, but we new that would be difficult with our schedules.

Well, we started being more judicious with the fats and rotated in extra veggies to tuck in the corners at mealtime. In five days our ketone counts went up and the amount we gained (and then some) just melted off.

So, learn from our error. Yes, eating between 20-50g of carbs while eating plenty of healthy fat is what's required to get into ketosis, but it's not a blank check.
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Post by: H2 on March 16, 2020, 04:56:03 PM
I lost a ton of fat on keto. Would recommend (for a short term - only 8 weeks I'd say). I did lose strength and athletic ability however.

Next two weeks in quarantine in my tiny apt, I found a few zenlabs app programs to increase pushups, squats, sit-ups, and pull-ups. Gonna have to settle on that before I'm allowed to leave the house and can start running again.
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Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2020, 05:05:28 PM
We've already exceeded that by 17 weeks, and I'm gaining strength, muscle tone and endurance. I've no plan to stop any soon, especially considering my A1C levels. Besides, Halle Berry has been on the keto diet for years...I should be so fit!  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
To Kade (and anyone else who's thinking of the Keto diet)

Mrs. P and I discovered something that, while not a pitfall, is worth considering. I think I've mentioned that we've only focused on the ratio of fat/protein/carbs (roughly 70/25/5 %) in our food...with the caveat that we stay in the 20g of carbs per day range. It has worked well and we are both closer to our weight goals, but we both have stalled recently. I think I also mentioned that I've stayed the same weight for over a month. Well, last week we both noticed that we were gaining weight again. I put on five unanticipated pounds and Mrs. P six!

That's when I had the idea that we may just be eating too many calories. We started counting up what we were consuming compared to what we can reasonably expect to burn given our activity levels. As you know, high fat foods (even though we avoid trans fats) are loaded with calories. It adds up quick and I found that we were eating about 20% more than we should. Of course, just exercising more would take care of the issue, but we new that would be difficult with our schedules.

Well, we started being more judicious with the fats and rotated in extra veggies to tuck in the corners at mealtime. In five days our ketone counts went up and the amount we gained (and then some) just melted off.

So, learn from our error. Yes, eating between 20-50g of carbs while eating plenty of healthy fat is what's required to get into ketosis, but it's not a blank check.

Oh yeah, I think my decent knowledge on nutrition has helped me burn a lot of fat over the last 10 weeks or so.  Even though my fat has drastically increased, my food portions and the amount has lowered.  I've done that from the start.  It was tricky to adjust too, but loving the fatty foods so it's worth it.  However, with my training increasing, so has the food and it's working well.  I don't count calories at all.  I know how much I'm eating based on eyeballing what I put on the plate but use to count calories and took so much focus off my training.  I'm pretty intuitive.

Gregg, both protein and carbs have 4 calories per gram.  Fat on the other hand has 9 calories per gram, so while low carb is great for the keto effect it seems, yeah, eating too much will put you in a caloric surplus, you have to find the right balance.  Good job on getting it off quickly though.  Once you're in the fat burning zone, it doesn't take long to get it back off once a little has creeped on.  Basically, you eat more calories than what you mean, doesn't matter the macros, you'll put the weight on.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: cramx3 on March 16, 2020, 05:15:01 PM
I lost a ton of fat on keto. Would recommend (for a short term - only 8 weeks I'd say). I did lose strength and athletic ability however.

Next two weeks in quarantine in my tiny apt, I found a few zenlabs app programs to increase pushups, squats, sit-ups, and pull-ups. Gonna have to settle on that before I'm allowed to leave the house and can start running again.

I'm glad to have my own exercise bike, bench, and dumbbells for times like this.  My job has been think tanking some ideas of exercise regiments for everyone working at home.  Like friendly competition things to keep people active on working out while not leaving home.  I've never done these before (last year they had a step counter competition) but maybe it's time to participate if they do come up with something.
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2020, 05:19:53 PM
Marc, I'm so happy for you. It's awesome to read your progress!

Can we talk caffeine withdrawals? I have a very unhealthy relationship with caffeine; at this point, I've had an unhealthy obsession with energy drinks (Monster, particularly) for almost half my life which is a little sobering from that perspective. Anyway, I always make a large coffee or cappuccino to start my day, then I have between 1-3 Monsters throughout the day to keep me awake and energized at work; the more physical activity, the more I consume to stay alert and then go to the gym later. Well last week I inadvertently abruptly stopped the energy drinks, and although I had a couple over the weekend, I believe the drastic reduction in caffeine contributed to these constant, dull headaches in the back left of my head.

So I took a very long nap on my lunch today, about 45 minutes of my hour, laying in bed. When I got up and back to work, the headache was returning, but I popped a Monster Zero Ultra and as of right now, the headache is gone. Leg is restless, though, I mean hopping mad jittery, but I feel normal again. (I always drink Monster Rehabs which have 10 calories, no sugar, are non-carbonated, and made with tea, but I slipped into the sugary deliciousness recently, unfortunately)

So I guess I'm going to have 'wean' myself off caffeine which I haven't had to do in years. Ugh. But, I suppose it's for the best, and I need to use this as a chance to ditch the energy drinks for good. I am getting concerned about my blood pressure even though I don't check it.

Holy hell!!  Yeah mate, cut that back, as others have said, maybe keep the coffee for now but cut back the energy drinks.  I use to drink 1 a day and they would always make me feel sick, but I'd keep buying them.  As I've said in the past the Zero Ultra ones (so good I might add) were a great tool to cut calories.  I've gone past that phase but yeah, cold turkey won't be easy, definitely try and cut back in stages.


WTH... only 1  :tup for me.   :sad:   :lol

Anyway... I'm on board with restricting caffeine.  I try to limit myself to 2 cups in the morning, and 1-2 in the afternoon.  Though, I'm trying to wean off of that afternoon caffeine periodically.  I've actually not had any coffee since this morning.  I do find myself brewing decaf in the late morning, as I like to have a hot cup of something to sip at while working.

Ironically, as I start to type this, I feel a bit of a headache brewing.  If I go without for 24+ hours, I definitely feel it.

Jeez, that still seems like a lot.

I only really get coffee on the weekends when I'm out.  I don't drink it through the week normally.  Maybe might grab a double espresso if I'm travelling between work places, but it's not often.  I'm so tired through the day though, at times I can hardly keep my eyes open and even talk properly to people.  My caffeine fix is an afternoon preworkout.  They say have a tub then take 2 weeks or so between tubs.  lol yeah, about 50 tubs in a row should be fine.  :lol


Coffee has actually been a huge help for me in my diet.  Drinking it black so it's essentially 0 calories and it helps me not feel hungry, I am often tempted to drink more than my 2 cups (and on the days I feel the hungriest is when I push to 3 cups).  But I really don't want to get myself anymore addicted than I already am so I have yet to have a 4 cup day and really hope I don't ever feel that urge.  One thing that has helped me is to not drink a full cup at once, put it aside and reheat and finish it off an hour or two later to help with the mental side of needing to put food/drinks in my mouth. 

Yep, it's a great weight loss tool, and great if you are doing IF.  As you said, have to watch and limit yourself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2020, 05:50:46 PM
Next two weeks in quarantine in my tiny apt, I found a few zenlabs app programs to increase pushups, squats, sit-ups, and pull-ups. Gonna have to settle on that before I'm allowed to leave the house and can start running again.

This is timely.  This was just posted yesterday (I follow this guy religiously):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc1E5CfRfos

Thankfully, I have fairly decent home gym, with pretty much everything I need to still be able to lift effectively.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 12:10:38 AM
Next two weeks in quarantine in my tiny apt, I found a few zenlabs app programs to increase pushups, squats, sit-ups, and pull-ups. Gonna have to settle on that before I'm allowed to leave the house and can start running again.

This is timely.  This was just posted yesterday (I follow this guy religiously):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc1E5CfRfos

Thankfully, I have fairly decent home gym, with pretty much everything I need to still be able to lift effectively.

Jeff Cavillere?  Can't click the link, at work.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 12:13:16 AM
Really enjoying this running thing.  Last week I calculated I think I ran 27km over the course of the week.  A bit of a run every arvo after my weights session and then the big one on Sunday.

Sunday arvo I made the big call once I worked out the distance to up it this week to 30km over the week.  It's Tuesday arvo and only did a 3km run yesterday and I feel like trash.  About to do a leg session in an hour plus try and push out a few more km.  Definitely bit off more than I could chew but a challenge and a half.  Legs are so sore, they need a break. 

Still pushing my weights though and making sure strength doesn't decrease with the extra running.  So far so good.  Going to need a lot of pre workout to get these legs to deadlift and squat this arvo.
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Post by: H2 on March 17, 2020, 04:43:20 AM
I had to google 'arvo' LOL. Ignorant american checking in. What would you say are your performance goals for lifting and running? Those are my exercise activities (running more so).

@ Podaar - Well, if ketos working great for you and your performance is increasing, I'm no expert but I would say keep at it! I think the duration a keto diet should last probably depends a lot on one's starting point. If you have someone who is already pretty lean or well-trained, I would guess there would be a point where keto gets in the way of performance.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 05:25:55 AM
WTH... only 1  :tup for me.   :sad:   :lol

You've already reached the pinnacle, my man. You only need a slight 'atta boy'.

You've got incredibly low standards if you think I'm the picture of 'pinnacle'.   :lol  I think that's reserved for Big Hath - I remember him posting either here, or in the post-your-pic thread and damn that dude was in shape (I assume he still is).  I'm getting to where I want to be - slowly but surely.

@ Kade... yes, Jeff Cavaliere.  And I too had to Google "arvo".  First time you used it, I was certain it was an autocorrect of something, but then I was like "wtf?".   :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 05:59:14 AM
Ha!  Yeah sorry, didn't even think using the word 'arvo' would confuse anyone.  Bloody Aussies!  ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 07:36:51 AM
Ha!  Yeah sorry, didn't even think using the word 'arvo' would confuse anyone.  Bloody Aussies!  ;D

Crikey!
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Post by: cramx3 on March 17, 2020, 08:24:14 AM
Ha!  Yeah sorry, didn't even think using the word 'arvo' would confuse anyone.  Bloody Aussies!  ;D

 :lol never heard that word either
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 03:43:25 PM
WTH... only 1  :tup for me.   :sad:   :lol

You've already reached the pinnacle, my man. You only need a slight 'atta boy'.

You've got incredibly low standards if you think I'm the picture of 'pinnacle'.   :lol  I think that's reserved for Big Hath - I remember him posting either here, or in the post-your-pic thread and damn that dude was in shape (I assume he still is).  I'm getting to where I want to be - slowly but surely.

@ Kade... yes, Jeff Cavaliere.  And I too had to Google "arvo".  First time you used it, I was certain it was an autocorrect of something, but then I was like "wtf?".   :lol

Need pics now.
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 03:45:24 PM
Ep006: Slang Word “Arvo”

G’day guys. Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. Today I’m going to be talking about a slang term, or a slang word, “arvo” or “the arvo” or “this arvo”. This is one that you are probably going to encounter a lot in Australia. It’s used by anyone and everyone of any age and… wherever they’re from. It’s not really the kind of slang term that is only found in one area. It’s really all over the country.

So what does it mean first of all? “Arvo”. Any guesses? “Arvo” is from the word “Afternoon”, which literally means “after” “noon”. So after lunchtime, after 12pm, but before nighttime. So the afternoon is normally between 12pm and 6pm in the afternoon.

“Arvo” is an example where we’ve shortened the word “afternoon” and added an “o” to the end of it and made it “arvo”. So how do we use this word? It can literally slow into any space where you would say “afternoon”. So…

“See you this arvo.”

“See you on Saturday arvo.”

“I’ll meet you after the game s’arvo”.  (‘s = this)

“I’m going to the doctor’s this arvo.”

You’ll often hear a mix of just “this arvo”, “arvo” or “s’arvo” depending on the person and how they pronounce it. So that’s “arvo”. So maybe you’re listening to this podcast in the “arvo”, maybe you’ve come home “this arvo” after a big day at work, or maybe you’re going to have a barbie, a barbecue in “the arvo” later today. So try and use this word in your next conversation with an Australian because I’m 100% certain you’ll impress them if you drop the word “arvo”.

Have a good one guys!


https://aussieenglish.com.au/ep006-slang-word-arvo/
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Post by: Lethean on March 17, 2020, 05:08:18 PM
 :lol

That was great. :)
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 05:27:12 PM
The 's'arvo' one is a stretch and made me laugh.  I've never heard anyone use that term I don't think. We like to cut words down but I think that is taking things a bit far.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on March 19, 2020, 10:56:07 AM
So, I haven't been to my gym in 2 days. It's a 24/7 gym; staffed for very few hours, and is otherwise pretty empty. Actually for the first couple months of the year it's usually pretty busy at normal hours, but this year it's been oddly quiet, even in January.

I'm wondering if I should go. I wanted to go last night but was too tired, and I really kind of need to work out tonight. The last couple weeks I've been in there, there haven't been more than 3 others in the whole gym (which is normal). It's out on the edge of town and the parking lot is usually always sparsely populated. There's plenty of disinfectant and most people always wipe down everything. Due to the low traffic and disinfectant everywhere I should be okay...
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 03:47:16 PM
So, I haven't been to my gym in 2 days. It's a 24/7 gym; staffed for very few hours, and is otherwise pretty empty. Actually for the first couple months of the year it's usually pretty busy at normal hours, but this year it's been oddly quiet, even in January.

I'm wondering if I should go. I wanted to go last night but was too tired, and I really kind of need to work out tonight. The last couple weeks I've been in there, there haven't been more than 3 others in the whole gym (which is normal). It's out on the edge of town and the parking lot is usually always sparsely populated. There's plenty of disinfectant and most people always wipe down everything. Due to the low traffic and disinfectant everywhere I should be okay...

Not sure what the situation is like where you are mate but can't stop living your life. 
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Post by: The Walrus on March 19, 2020, 03:48:45 PM
So, I haven't been to my gym in 2 days. It's a 24/7 gym; staffed for very few hours, and is otherwise pretty empty. Actually for the first couple months of the year it's usually pretty busy at normal hours, but this year it's been oddly quiet, even in January.

I'm wondering if I should go. I wanted to go last night but was too tired, and I really kind of need to work out tonight. The last couple weeks I've been in there, there haven't been more than 3 others in the whole gym (which is normal). It's out on the edge of town and the parking lot is usually always sparsely populated. There's plenty of disinfectant and most people always wipe down everything. Due to the low traffic and disinfectant everywhere I should be okay...

Not sure what the situation is like where you are mate but can't stop living your life.

Yeah, that's a great point, and I think that's what it comes down to, doesn't it? There's 1 reported case in my county (hasn't changed for 2-3 days now) and the governor has done an extraordinary job of taking this seriously and locking down the state. Since I saw less than 5 people there even on a weekend, I think I'm gonna chance it and go.

Besides... I tend to try new things when the gym is completely empty so I don't look like an ass if I don't do something properly. This could be a good time for a new routine!
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Post by: cramx3 on March 19, 2020, 04:07:59 PM
Well there isn't a single gym open in my state.  I wouldn't recommend going just because you can work out in other ways and even though empty now, this virus seems to linger on surfaces. You may be pretty safe but it almost seems like a risk not worth taking in my mind right now.

And you should put a halt on many things that are considered "living your life" but that's my relatively more recent opinion on things.

I weighed in at 179 lbs this morning which is insane if I was 186 just last week so I think some of this is water weight and just general daily fluctuation, but damn my goal was 180 and I essentially hit it.  I'm pretty proud of myself.  Having said that, I have no plans on stopping.  I've slacked a bit with the workouts, but honestly, my diet and bike riding isn't really that difficult especially once in a rhythm.  New goal, 175 and get those large sized tshirts to be just a bit looser.  They mostly fit fairly well right now which is another achievement (as I am wearing a shirt from many years ago).  Eventually I want to put on more muscle too but I've been really fatigued lately, biking for 10 minutes is difficult so lifting weights hasn't really been something I've been working on. 
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Post by: Podaar on March 19, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
Cram,

Awesome stuff! I can't imagine 175. The last time I was that low I had a 30 inch waist. I'm never seeing that again  :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on March 19, 2020, 04:35:29 PM
Thanks and I'm currently at a 34 inch waist so I have room to work.  I hit 180 about 10 years ago when I last tried to get into shape.  I never went under so if I can get to 175 it'll be the best shape I may have ever been in since I went through puberty and had my growth spurt. 
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 04:42:11 PM
The gym I go to is legitimately one of the remaining open gyms in Canada. It sounds like 99% of gyms in Canada have either been told to close or have closed on their own accord. I go to Snap Fitness and most have been closed except my location. Even though it’s a 24/7 gym, the manager has decided to open up for a few hours each day. But she is not taking on any new customers during this period, she is asking nobody attend if they are feeling unwell, minimizing the number of people that can be present and lots of cleaning. Hopefully she doesn’t get forced to shut down. I’m all for taking precautions and I don’t want anyone to get sick, but things are getting a tad out of hand
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Post by: The Walrus on March 19, 2020, 05:08:04 PM
Eh. I can do bodyweight exercises here but I want to lift and do cardio, and it's raining. I'm gonna scope it out; if nobody's there, I'm in.  :hat
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Post by: WilliamMunny on March 19, 2020, 05:17:01 PM
The gym I go to is legitimately one of the remaining open gyms in Canada. It sounds like 99% of gyms in Canada have either been told to close or have closed on their own accord. I go to Snap Fitness and most have been closed except my location. Even though it’s a 24/7 gym, the manager has decided to open up for a few hours each day. But she is not taking on any new customers during this period, she is asking nobody attend if they are feeling unwell, minimizing the number of people that can be present and lots of cleaning. Hopefully she doesn’t get forced to shut down. I’m all for taking precautions and I don’t want anyone to get sick, but things are getting a tad out of hand

I'm a snap customer as well, and I am crushed that they've decided to close.

It's bad enough that the constant stress of a imminent global-recession-by-way-of-pandemic is keeping me up at night, but the fact that I can't currently observe my workout routine is totally adding insult to injury. First world problems, I know, but still.....
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 05:23:36 PM
Well there isn't a single gym open in my state.  I wouldn't recommend going just because you can work out in other ways and even though empty now, this virus seems to linger on surfaces. You may be pretty safe but it almost seems like a risk not worth taking in my mind right now.

And you should put a halt on many things that are considered "living your life" but that's my relatively more recent opinion on things.

I agree 100% with this, and am on a completely opposite page from you guys Katt/Wolf/jj.  I don't things are getting out of hand.  50% growth in cases, and 30% growth in US deaths today alone is what's getting out of hand.  Going to a gym is not social distancing.

I'm with cram... only leaving the house for "essential" supplies.  Working out (with excessive sweat and exhaling) is a completely unnecessary risk - for you, or others you may be exposed to for the next 14 days.

That's just me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 06:14:21 PM
I respect that opinion for sure. This is just something that is unprecedented and is so fluid with the changes it’s hard to know what’s going on. People are fighting in grocery stores over food and toilet paper, this isn’t normal. The media doesn’t help really. I think people need to find a happy medium for taking care of themselves and people around them, but also live. But I also respect people’s decision to completely stay inside and not leave.
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Post by: Lethean on March 19, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
I'm with cram and jingle.  There are a lot of cardio workouts on YouTube.  Maybe they aren't as satisfying as being able to use a machine, but it'll get the job done, and keep everyone safe.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 19, 2020, 06:47:10 PM
I got back a little while ago. Given the sparse traffic I'm fine taking the risk at least tonight. cram went to concerts packed in like sardines a while back and he's on the east coast, so I feel comfortable with my choice for now (edit: news is still reporting only one case and we have testing going on, so that's largely why I feel okay) I may not do it again this weekend though.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 08:53:01 PM
I respect that opinion for sure. This is just something that is unprecedented and is so fluid with the changes it’s hard to know what’s going on. People are fighting in grocery stores over food and toilet paper, this isn’t normal. The media doesn’t help really. I think people need to find a happy medium for taking care of themselves and people around them, but also live. But I also respect people’s decision to completely stay inside and not leave.

Social media is a major part of the problem, but I won't get started on that.  No way I'm living in fear and not going to the gym.  I respect everyone's opinon however.

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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:33:16 PM
I respect that opinion for sure. This is just something that is unprecedented and is so fluid with the changes it’s hard to know what’s going on. People are fighting in grocery stores over food and toilet paper, this isn’t normal. The media doesn’t help really. I think people need to find a happy medium for taking care of themselves and people around them, but also live. But I also respect people’s decision to completely stay inside and not leave.

Social media is a major part of the problem, but I won't get started on that.  No way I'm living in fear and not going to the gym.  I respect everyone's opinon however.

 :tup agree 100%
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 09:45:57 PM
For me, it's not a matter of living in fear.  It's a matter of taking the steps necessary to keep society as a whole functioning.  jj... you're absolutely right - fighting in grocery stores is stupid and uncalled for.  There is however a real need for EVERYONE to take the extraordinarily necessary steps to reduce any/all chances of transmission and spread.

I won't derail this any more into a Coronavirus discussion, so I'll leave it at that.  To each their own.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:52:58 PM
 :tup I just hope everyone is safe and taking the necessary precautions
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 10:14:01 PM
:tup I just hope everyone is safe and taking the necessary precautions

On this we agree.

Did a double workout today - an hour on the bike earlier watching a podcast (@ Katt... that JRE you shared earlier this week), and then my HIIT program + abs.  I'm not sure if I killed it, or it killed me.

Bed time now.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 11:34:46 PM
For me, it's not a matter of living in fear.  It's a matter of taking the steps necessary to keep society as a whole functioning.  jj... you're absolutely right - fighting in grocery stores is stupid and uncalled for.  There is however a real need for EVERYONE to take the extraordinarily necessary steps to reduce any/all chances of transmission and spread.

I won't derail this any more into a Coronavirus discussion, so I'll leave it at that.  To each their own.

If everyone had more common sense than we could protect ourselves better without taking such drastic measures IMO.  I say keep clean, be mindful, watch your coughs and sneezes and if you start feeling crook, stay home.

Anyway, it's a worldwide problem we are all faced with and understand every has to take extra measures to try and slow this down.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 11:37:22 PM
I gave myself a goal to run 30km this week.  It's Friday and I've done 15km and my legs are trashed.  So many aches, calf pain, shin pain and fatigue I don't know how I'm going to do another 15km in 3 days.  It's omly 5km each day but coming from a non running background, it's starting to hurt bad.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 11:50:36 PM
For me, it's not a matter of living in fear.  It's a matter of taking the steps necessary to keep society as a whole functioning.  jj... you're absolutely right - fighting in grocery stores is stupid and uncalled for.  There is however a real need for EVERYONE to take the extraordinarily necessary steps to reduce any/all chances of transmission and spread.

I won't derail this any more into a Coronavirus discussion, so I'll leave it at that.  To each their own.

If everyone had more common sense than we could protect ourselves better without taking such drastic measures IMO.  I say keep clean, be mindful, watch your coughs and sneezes and if you start feeling crook, stay home.

Anyway, it's a worldwide problem we are all faced with and understand every has to take extra measures to try and slow this down.

 :tup :metal :metal
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Post by: cramx3 on March 20, 2020, 08:13:03 AM
I got back a little while ago. Given the sparse traffic I'm fine taking the risk at least tonight. cram went to concerts packed in like sardines a while back and he's on the east coast, so I feel comfortable with my choice for now (edit: news is still reporting only one case and we have testing going on, so that's largely why I feel okay) I may not do it again this weekend though.

And that was before Trump went on air looking sick and saying how serious this was (changing his own tone).  That got me to fall in line that this shit is serious.  I've also had cold symptoms since then that haven't gone away.  Also, one confirmed case in your town means like many many more unconfirmed cases.  Testing is way too far from being rampant to use that as a reason to feel comfortable.  Most people with symptoms still can't get tested.  Just my opinion, but I do admit, my opinion changed about two weeks ago from today.  I was all on the "keep living your life" boat until then.  Now I worry I am spreading a disease unknowingly.  But with a workout, you can find ways of achieving the same in your own house, that's why it feels like an unnecessary risk right now.  I'm honestly surprised they are even still open.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 20, 2020, 08:38:23 AM
Yeah, this 'flatten the curve' advice is the real deal. Here in Alberta, Canada we started adopting social distancing from the minute we had a confirmed case. We still see new cases every day, but it's linear. In the US right now the number of cases doubles every 2 or 3 days. Without taking big steps to stop the spread, you're looking at a grim outlook a month from now. I understand that if you're outside the high risk population this might seem like an overreaction, but if you have elderly parents, grand parents, or know anyone with health problems you should be doing it for them.

I have a solid home gym (bike, rower, power rack and olympic bars, 500lbs of plates, bowflex adjustable dumbells, plenty of floor space, wall mounted TV), so I'm lucky not to be too impacted on the fitness front. I've still been out XC skiing and mounting biking though. I think that still counts as social distancing since I almost never see anyone else out there when I am.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2020, 09:10:51 AM
Since we already have a few COVID threads going, my hope is that we can stay on topic here.  We're all getting bombarded by this stuff, I'm hoping that this thread can be a safe haven away from that discussion and madness.

Sound cool?
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Post by: cramx3 on March 20, 2020, 09:40:45 AM
Sure, but one last thing... is it good to workout if you are infected?  Just asking.  I did read that it was not on reddit, but that's not an official source.  Like, I'd imagine if I had a fever there would be no way I could work out.  But if you have mild symptoms, should you work out at all?
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 09:51:47 AM
I got back a little while ago. Given the sparse traffic I'm fine taking the risk at least tonight. cram went to concerts packed in like sardines a while back and he's on the east coast, so I feel comfortable with my choice for now (edit: news is still reporting only one case and we have testing going on, so that's largely why I feel okay) I may not do it again this weekend though.

And that was before Trump went on air looking sick and saying how serious this was (changing his own tone).  That got me to fall in line that this shit is serious.  I've also had cold symptoms since then that haven't gone away.  Also, one confirmed case in your town means like many many more unconfirmed cases.  Testing is way too far from being rampant to use that as a reason to feel comfortable.  Most people with symptoms still can't get tested.  Just my opinion, but I do admit, my opinion changed about two weeks ago from today.  I was all on the "keep living your life" boat until then.  Now I worry I am spreading a disease unknowingly.  But with a workout, you can find ways of achieving the same in your own house, that's why it feels like an unnecessary risk right now.  I'm honestly surprised they are even still open.

I mean, I am taking it seriously, I'm weighing the options and likelihood of getting infected. A person with COVID-19 is likely not going to go work out, it's a low traffic gym in a low traffic part of a rural town, and we still only have one reported case in the county. Plus, I have to go to work even if the virus comes to my town, so I'm kind of fucked regardless. The virus is not in my town, at least not reported. And I've been watching all the local news outlets like a hawk all week, no mention at all. I'm really trying to take that "you gotta live your life" statement to heart, but I'm not being flippant, I'm definitely concerned about this disease. I haven't been around a gathering of a dozen or more people in... oh, god, months? Not since October of last year, easily. I'm very, very good at staying away from people.

I think like anything else, using your head and weighing the pros/cons matters here. I'm not lifting sweat-drenched weights at Miami Beach sharing White Claws with Becky. Like I said, I'll probably not go in the near future if it gets worse around these parts, but... I dunno. I was nervous when I initially asked, but after going, I felt better.

Honestly? I think it's more of a risk to go to f'ing Wal-Mart trying to buy some ground beef so I can eat next week. But I have to do that.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2020, 09:57:05 AM
I mean, I am taking it seriously, I'm weighing the options and likelihood of getting infected. A person with COVID-19 is likely not going to go work out, it's a low traffic gym in a low traffic part of a rural town, and we still only have one reported case in the county. Plus, I have to go to work even if the virus comes to my town, so I'm kind of fucked regardless. The virus is not in my town, at least not reported. And I've been watching all the local news outlets like a hawk all week, no mention at all. I'm really trying to take that "you gotta live your life" statement to heart, but I'm not being flippant, I'm definitely concerned about this disease.

I think like anything else, using your head and weighing the pros/cons matters here. I'm not lifting sweat-drenched weights at Miami Beach sharing White Claws with Becky. Like I said, I'll probably not go in the near future if it gets worse around these parts, but...

Hard times brotha... HARD TIMES!!  I only bold the part because, and you know this, once someone is diagnosed, they've likely had the infection - and have been spreading it themselves - for at least a week.

@ cram... my advice - for any illness/ailment - if you feel good enough to workout, by all means do it.  Sniffles?  Aches/pains?  low fever .... if you still feel 'up' to working out, exercising isn't going to make things worse.  That's my opinion of course.  Not sure if anyone else feels or knows differently.

Usually when I've got a fever or aches though, I just don't have the motivation to workout.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 09:58:30 AM
Well, again. I still have to work even if it comes to town. If I still have to go to work, if I still have to go to the grocery store which sees EXPONENTIALLY more traffic than a small gym that is always being wiped down with disinfectant... then I think going for a workout is fine, really. The more I talk about this, the more I'm convinced it is (at the time) safe.

HARD TIMES indeed, daddy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Illinois

I am Champaign County. East central Illinois, that big very light pink square.
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Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 10:19:31 AM
I think that's actually completely the opposite of how you should be looking at it. You have to go to work, you don't have a choice at this point. You also have to eat, and if you don't have grocery pickup or delivery in your town, you have no choice but to go to the store. However, you do have a choice about everything else. So if someone who doesn't know that they have the coronavirus goes to your gym, you could then get it, not know that you have it, and pass it on to a co-worker. Or your dad. That's how the whole thing works.  The problem is that the incubation period can be as long as 14 days, so a person could think that they're perfectly healthy and go workout, and get someone else infected. With everything that's going on, how quickly it spreading here, everything that's happening in Italy, I think we should all just avoid being in public places like a gym because we have the choice to do so.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 10:21:33 AM
I think I've made it clear how I feel and how I will scale things back in the very near future as once again I am watching news like a hawk. I can take care of myself

There is testing going on in Champaign County. 1 case has been reported and it's stayed that way for days. I feel okay.
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Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
It's not about watching the news like a hawk or taking care of yourself. The news doesn't know about all of the cases that are out there. The lesson from Italy is to start staying home now, not wait until the news knows about more cases.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 10:23:39 AM
By that logic, I shouldn't go to the grocery store whatsoever, because...
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Post by: cramx3 on March 20, 2020, 10:23:46 AM
@ cram... my advice - for any illness/ailment - if you feel good enough to workout, by all means do it.  Sniffles?  Aches/pains?  low fever .... if you still feel 'up' to working out, exercising isn't going to make things worse.  That's my opinion of course.  Not sure if anyone else feels or knows differently.

Usually when I've got a fever or aches though, I just don't have the motivation to workout.

That's my thought but what I read from an unreliable source was your body might be confused about where to send resources, youre recovering body from the workout or the ability to help overcome an illness.  I don't know the science here so was just throwing it out there.  I've had mild cold symptoms for a bit now and have been biking much less because it's been more tiresome but I wonder if that's helping or hurting me with recovering from these cold symptoms which just don't seem to be going away.  In other times, I would just keep doing what I can handle but I keep thinking I should do everything to make sure my immune system is not hurting just in case the virus does come to me. 
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2020, 10:26:19 AM
@ Katt .... :france:

This is clearly a case where you'll need to find your tipping point.  Again, let's push COVID discussion to the COVID thread??

@ Marc... good points, and I've got no medical basis for my opinions, so I could be completely off, and giving you the absolute worst advice!   :lol

:dunno:
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 10:27:40 AM
Gladly! If I want someone to reprimand me on how I live, I'll call up my mom.  :lol (no offense, Lethean - just having fun)
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Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 10:29:14 AM
By that logic, I shouldn't go to the grocery store whatsoever, because...

No, because you need food to live. If you could live without food, then sure don't go to the grocery store. You have to go there and you have to go to work. You don't have to go to the gym. That's the difference.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 10:29:35 AM
By that logic, I shouldn't go to the grocery store whatsoever, because...

No, because you need food to live. If you could live without food, then sure don't go to the grocery store. You have to go there and you have to go to work. You don't have to go to the gym. That's the difference.

Thanks, mom. See?  :lol
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Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 10:32:10 AM
Well no, it should be more like thanks doctor, nurse, public health advisor, guy on The Joe Rogan show in the video that I think you have shared, etcetera. That's where I'm getting it from. :)
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 10:54:26 AM
Yes. Me too. You're welcome to come live my life if you wish!
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Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 11:07:11 AM
No thanks. It could be fun to trade for a day, but our co-workers might notice that something was a little off...  :)
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2020, 11:13:27 AM
No thanks. It could be fun to trade for a day, but our co-workers might notice that something was a little off...  :)

:lmao:

It wouldn't be the hair!   :lol
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 11:17:07 AM
 :lol Yeah, I like my job. I get to wear sleeveless shirts and basketball shorts in the summer and don't have to worry about getting dirty, 'cause I'm always dirty.  :biggrin:

Back to exercise, though. It's funny because I started doing a thing a month or so ago where I would do push-ups and other bodyweight exercises every time I lost a match in Smash Bros. (Hey, I gotta motivate myself somehow, what better way than with one of my favorite hobbies?  :lol) No better time to continue than on a quarantine weekend! Haha.
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Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 11:25:33 AM
What about hand stand push-ups like in that video jingle posted?
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 11:29:19 AM
I got introduced to a lot of push-up variations in high school. Not really a fan of anything except the tried and true, honestly. Just not fun exercises to me. I like adding actual weights to bodyweight exercises though. I'm not sure if there are studies on the detriments but I've done push-ups with weights on my back and weighted vests etc. and those are super fun to me.

I've thought about putting together a simple wooden box at the shop (maybe this afternoon) to take home and use as a step-up box for some intense home cardio, since I don't have any other options and it's too cold to go running at the pond or track.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: Lethean on March 20, 2020, 11:38:07 AM
I got introduced to a lot of push-up variations in high school. Not really a fan of anything except the tried and true, honestly. Just not fun exercises to me.
I meant that as kind of a joke, although I guess I don't really know why... Obviously if that guy does it, other people can too.  It just looked insane to me.  :)

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I've thought about putting together a simple wooden box at the shop (maybe this afternoon) to take home and use as a step-up box for some intense home cardio, since I don't have any other options and it's too cold to go running at the pond or track.

That sounds like a cool idea.
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Post by: lonestar on March 20, 2020, 04:12:16 PM
So grateful I got a big ass mountain a few miles from me, and that hiking is an acceptable activity under out SIP order. 6 miles yesterday, 5 today. Planning on hitting every trail before this thing is over.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 20, 2020, 05:16:56 PM
So grateful I got a big ass mountain a few miles from me, and that hiking is an acceptable activity under out SIP order. 6 miles yesterday, 5 today. Planning on hitting every trail before this thing is over.

Lucky!

I'm wondering if I can get away with walking out in the country. Nothing but corn!
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2020, 06:16:13 PM
Sorry guys, thought I clicked on the exercise thread, I'll move on.  ;D

Just did a 2km swim and 7km run/jog this morning.  I'm fucked.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 21, 2020, 02:15:58 AM
With all gyms being closed for the foreseeable future, I just started doing basic exercises at home. I did a 45 minute circuit workout consisting of push ups, sit ups, squats, calf raises, jumping jacks, running on the spot. I would stop for 20 seconds here and there for water but pretty much went non stop. I was drenched in sweat lol, way more than I would at the gym. I liked it and will keep doing it
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2020, 04:39:06 AM
With all gyms being closed for the foreseeable future, I just started doing basic exercises at home. I did a 45 minute circuit workout consisting of push ups, sit ups, squats, calf raises, jumping jacks, running on the spot. I would stop for 20 seconds here and there for water but pretty much went non stop. I was drenched in sweat lol, way more than I would at the gym. I liked it and will keep doing it

Awesome-sauce.  If anyone wants some ideas, I've been working out from home for more than a few years.  I've purchased a few different programs that do a really good job of incorporating HIIT movements, lifting, bodyweight moves etc...  Some are timed, some are not.  I also purchased a really good heart rate monitor (bluetooth, so it runs from an app on my phone and I see what my hr is at all times), so I know when I'm in the zone I want to be, or too high, or too low.  That often dictates how much/long I rest for between movements ands sets.

And I'll pimp him again, but Athlean-X has got a ton of great advice and walk-thru videos.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 21, 2020, 07:29:58 AM
Did a deck of cards yesterday. Clubs were burpees, and Kings and Queens were 20 reps each (we believe in gender equality in our house).

The cards giveth and the cards taketh away...


(https://i.imgur.com/uMbgeXv.jpg)

That was a brutal string of cards about 2/3 through the deck.
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Post by: ReaperKK on March 21, 2020, 07:36:28 AM
Coffee has actually been a huge help for me in my diet.  Drinking it black so it's essentially 0 calories and it helps me not feel hungry, I am often tempted to drink more than my 2 cups (and on the days I feel the hungriest is when I push to 3 cups).  But I really don't want to get myself anymore addicted than I already am so I have yet to have a 4 cup day and really hope I don't ever feel that urge.  One thing that has helped me is to not drink a full cup at once, put it aside and reheat and finish it off an hour or two later to help with the mental side of needing to put food/drinks in my mouth. 

I didn't start drinking coffee until my 20's to help with hunger when I was dieting. That turned into 5 cups a day that I drink now, I've been slowly weening myself off of it so I can cut back to maybe 2 cups a day.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2020, 09:33:41 AM
Did a deck of cards yesterday. Clubs were burpees, and Kings and Queens were 20 reps each (we believe in gender equality in our house).

The cards giveth and the cards taketh away...


(https://i.imgur.com/uMbgeXv.jpg)

That was a brutal string of cards about 2/3 through the deck.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/sHRU2mefl56BG/giphy.gif)

I've got a deck-of-cards app on my phone, and I hate - HATE - when I get 3-4 of the same suit in a row on a compound/high-intensity movement.  I'm not entirely masochistic though - J/Q/K/A are 11-12-13-14.  Doing face cards at 20 is terrifying.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 21, 2020, 09:35:55 AM
I'm looking into this deck of cards thing. I think I will give it a shot in about an hour. Will report back.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 21, 2020, 09:44:21 AM
I'm not sure I see the point? If you end up getting stuck with the same exercises, what does that benefit?  Either way, I'm sure it's a tough workout and very beneficial. 

I'm honestly feeling the best I've felt in like a month today.  No tiredness, no gout, slight runny nose still but no other ailments and I actually was able to lift some weights. 

Also another way I end up getting some exercise in although I don't count it in my biking or any other regiment is dancing.  When I feel good, I like to blast music and dance around the house.  I've been doing that last night and this morning which I haven't done at all lately.  Feels good. 

And lady friend coming over tonight so I'll get some exercise then too plus we are planning on making a healthy turkey veggies and potatos dinner together  :metal :metal
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 21, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I'm not sure I see the point? If you end up getting stuck with the same exercises, what does that benefit? 

At the end of the workout it's the same number of reps of each exercise, so it's more or less the same thing as having the exercises equally spread out. The difference when you have that many in a row of the same exercise is that it typically slows you down because you end up resting a lot more to get the reps finished. That sequence probably cost me an extra 2 minutes due to the rest needed. The point of the deck of cards is to make it random to keep the workout fresh. You never know what's next, so i find the workouts easier to get through from a mental perspective.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 21, 2020, 10:40:33 AM
Sweet lord. I got winded 1/4 through a deck. Although I was counting one rep for each side which I don't know if I should be doing (so like, mountain climbers; raising each leg once counted for 1, the next 2 were '2' and so on...), but holy crap I got winded fast. I bumbled along until I got to 26 and then called it quits. Fun as hell but absolutely tiring... which means I've found something exciting to stick to. Hooray.

Of course... I was doing mountain climbers, Spider-man pushups, prisoner squats, and reverse lunges. Those mountain climbers and spideys, man...
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Post by: cramx3 on March 21, 2020, 10:49:37 AM
I'm not sure I see the point? If you end up getting stuck with the same exercises, what does that benefit? 

At the end of the workout it's the same number of reps of each exercise, so it's more or less the same thing as having the exercises equally spread out. The difference when you have that many in a row of the same exercise is that it typically slows you down because you end up resting a lot more to get the reps finished. That sequence probably cost me an extra 2 minutes due to the rest needed. The point of the deck of cards is to make it random to keep the workout fresh. You never know what's next, so i find the workouts easier to get through from a mental perspective.

Ohhh, I misunderstood, thought you only do what you draw, not the whole deck.. yea that's intense.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 21, 2020, 11:04:41 AM
I'm not sure I see the point? If you end up getting stuck with the same exercises, what does that benefit? 

At the end of the workout it's the same number of reps of each exercise, so it's more or less the same thing as having the exercises equally spread out. The difference when you have that many in a row of the same exercise is that it typically slows you down because you end up resting a lot more to get the reps finished. That sequence probably cost me an extra 2 minutes due to the rest needed. The point of the deck of cards is to make it random to keep the workout fresh. You never know what's next, so i find the workouts easier to get through from a mental perspective.

Ohhh, I misunderstood, thought you only do what you draw, not the whole deck.. yea that's intense.

Lol no, you do the whole thing. Although I've been near the end of a deck more than once and saw a bad sequence and just quit with 10 or so cards to go.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2020, 11:29:12 AM
I was doing mountain climbers, Spider-man pushups, prisoner squats, and reverse lunges. Those mountain climbers and spideys, man...

That's a nice combo - though double dipping on 2 x aerobic moves (mountain climbers + reverse lunges); as well as doubling up legs (squats/lunges).  I always like to throw in a ab targeted move as well.  Those are good as an "active rest" - not really taxing on the HR.

@ Marc... when one counts Jacks=11; Q=12; K=13; Aces=14, it ends up being 105 reps of each suit/movement.  Depending on the movements, most deck-o-cards routines will run me at least 25-30 minutes.  Some simply take longer to execute, and/or recover (eg, pushup vs burpee; squat vs jumping jack), which can add to the total workout time.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 21, 2020, 02:09:36 PM
If i do movements that are single sided i always do a low rep version with aces being 1 and j,q,k being 11, 12, and 13 respectively. And , like jingle, a typical deck takes about 25 minutes. I've picked some awful combinations though that took 40 minutes to finish. Like full clean and press instead of burpees.

I don't mind having double leg movements in my deck. Makes for a good leg day. I do always include the sit ups, too, just for the active rest. It honestly helps a bunch
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2020, 05:22:35 AM
Yeah, that deck of cards thing definitely isn't my thing.  Lucky I've been getting into the running lately.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 23, 2020, 08:49:17 AM
Dude, what the hell... ow. I can be a couch potato, but I love to exercise. But I've never done that deck of cards routine before, and after only half a deck, I was sore all day yesterday - more sore than I've been in a long time. All from bodyweight exercises. Hurts so good - just what I've been looking for. Just gonna keep at it until I'm able to do a whole deck in a session. Going to have to make some adjustments to how I approach reps though. I underestimated how physically demanding it was gonna be.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on March 23, 2020, 08:56:54 AM
Well it's now 3 days since I did my deck, and I'm still sore lol.
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Post by: The Walrus on March 23, 2020, 12:12:35 PM
For me, it's my lats... basically my whole upper portion of my sides. And my ass. I have played so much PlayStation 4 since Christmas I think my ass atrophied. I forgot the power of squats. And moderation.  :lol :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2020, 04:53:36 AM
13km run yesterday (8 miles).  Time was 1 hour 19 minutes and 8 seconds.  6 minutes a km, pretty slow but still alright since I was pacing for a bigger run.  I don't know how people run marathons, jeez.

12km run today in 1 hour and 9 minutes.  So 1km shorter but would have had a much better time.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2020, 05:09:37 AM
End of month one with Athlean-X's Max Shred program.  Been liking it so far... pretty simple HIIT movements that still get anaerobic / muscle building.  Holy shit was the end of month 'challenge' yesterday brutal.  Harder than any Insanity or p90X routine I've ever done.  It's a timed workout, so trying to push yourself even when I should be resting.  First grouping I did 150 x spider-man pushups + 250 x half jump-squats; 2nd grouping was 150 x horizontal pullups + 250 run lunge (each individual lunge was 1).  Took me about 40 minutes, and at one point, my HR peaked at 180.

Weigh in this morning was good - 180.4 lbs; 14.3% BF... down 1.6lbs and .2% BF from last Sunday.  I know the BF measurement on these kinds of scales is to be taken with a grain of salt, I just use it for the trending.

Reward meal tonight ... we're ordering in pizza, and I'm gonna slap some wings on that order too.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2020, 05:38:58 AM
End of month one with Athlean-X's Max Shred program.  Been liking it so far... pretty simple HIIT movements that still get anaerobic / muscle building.  Holy shit was the end of month 'challenge' yesterday brutal.  Harder than any Insanity or p90X routine I've ever done.  It's a timed workout, so trying to push yourself even when I should be resting.  First grouping I did 150 x spider-man pushups + 250 x half jump-squats; 2nd grouping was 150 x horizontal pullups + 250 run lunge (each individual lunge was 1).  Took me about 40 minutes, and at one point, my HR peaked at 180.

Weigh in this morning was good - 180.4 lbs; 14.3% BF... down 1.6lbs and .2% BF from last Sunday.  I know the BF measurement on these kinds of scales is to be taken with a grain of salt, I just use it for the trending.

Reward meal tonight ... we're ordering in pizza, and I'm gonna slap some wings on that order too.

Nice work mate.

I tried the other day to do a kind of workout like this, I fucking hated it.  Just something about these repetitive body movements I just dislike.  I'd rather go for a long run or swim.  Although who am I to judge, looking at Jeff he knows what the fuck he's doing lol.
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Post by: Podaar on March 29, 2020, 05:50:56 AM
Nice, Chad. I had to look up what those exercises were. Goddamn, son, you did all those reps of all those moves in 40 minutes. I'm very impressed. I don't think I could do ten spiderman pushups.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2020, 06:01:00 AM
End of month one with Athlean-X's Max Shred program.  Been liking it so far... pretty simple HIIT movements that still get anaerobic / muscle building.  Holy shit was the end of month 'challenge' yesterday brutal.  Harder than any Insanity or p90X routine I've ever done.  It's a timed workout, so trying to push yourself even when I should be resting.  First grouping I did 150 x spider-man pushups + 250 x half jump-squats; 2nd grouping was 150 x horizontal pullups + 250 run lunge (each individual lunge was 1).  Took me about 40 minutes, and at one point, my HR peaked at 180.

Weigh in this morning was good - 180.4 lbs; 14.3% BF... down 1.6lbs and .2% BF from last Sunday.  I know the BF measurement on these kinds of scales is to be taken with a grain of salt, I just use it for the trending.

Reward meal tonight ... we're ordering in pizza, and I'm gonna slap some wings on that order too.

Nice work mate.

I tried the other day to do a kind of workout like this, I fucking hated it.  Just something about these repetitive body movements I just dislike.  I'd rather go for a long run or swim.  Although who am I to judge, looking at Jeff he knows what the fuck he's doing lol.

Thanks guys.  To this point Kade, I'm the exact opposite - running is completely monotonous to me, and boring as shit. Put one foot in front of the other, and repeat for an hour?  No thanks.  :lol

TASTESTM!!!

@ Gregg... I won't lie, this routine absolutely flattened me - the rep counts aren't consecutive... the program calls for each grouping to be sets of 100, 90, 80. 70. 60 (with a 1 minute rest between each set), and you can decide how to split those sets up between the two movements.  I was GASPING for air at multiple points - by group 2, there was NO WAY I could only rest for a minute between each set), and by the end of the, my forearms and legs were jelly.  mrs.jingle and the jingle.kids were commenting on how much I was groaning and struggling thru it - and mrs.jingle was upstairs (workout room is in the basement beside jingle.daugter's bedroom - apparently I woke her up from a nap).

Anyhoo... rest day today.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 29, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
End of month one with Athlean-X's Max Shred program.  Been liking it so far... pretty simple HIIT movements that still get anaerobic / muscle building.  Holy shit was the end of month 'challenge' yesterday brutal.  Harder than any Insanity or p90X routine I've ever done.  It's a timed workout, so trying to push yourself even when I should be resting.  First grouping I did 150 x spider-man pushups + 250 x half jump-squats; 2nd grouping was 150 x horizontal pullups + 250 run lunge (each individual lunge was 1).  Took me about 40 minutes, and at one point, my HR peaked at 180.

Weigh in this morning was good - 180.4 lbs; 14.3% BF... down 1.6lbs and .2% BF from last Sunday.  I know the BF measurement on these kinds of scales is to be taken with a grain of salt, I just use it for the trending.

Reward meal tonight ... we're ordering in pizza, and I'm gonna slap some wings on that order too.

 :tup :tup for the effort in the workout

 :tup :tup for the pizza reward
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Post by: The Walrus on March 30, 2020, 08:34:57 AM
Not sure where else to put this but uh, does anybody else lose strength in their grip when they laugh? I've had this all my life but I've really noticed it more the last few weeks. Every time I find something super funny, I completely lose my grip strength and can't even write my name coherently because I can't get a strong grip on a pen or pencil. Internet sleuthing tells me it's related to cataplexy in some way but, like, it's only isolated to my hands (usually my right one, which is my dominant hand, giggity heybaby.gif etc.). Usually resolves itself in a few minutes. Very weird.
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Post by: Podaar on March 30, 2020, 08:36:13 AM
I don't believe I've ever had occasion to laugh while in the throws of a firm grip...
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Post by: The Walrus on April 07, 2020, 12:09:13 PM
I've been trying to shake things up at home and even at work. I'll put on a song and do an exercise for the duration of the song, within reason. ACDC is great for consistency in this regard. 4 straight minutes of body squats yesterday, for example, and today it hurts so good.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 12:25:50 PM
4 minutes!!   :omg:   :tup  Nice.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 07, 2020, 12:49:02 PM
Now that I'm almost exclusively working from home and feeling good, my biking has been going crazy.  I get bored every other hour and just hit the bike for 10-15 minutes to get drenched in sweat and then go back to "working" and eventually I get bored and go hit the bike again and so on until I've hit 20 miles.  It's been a nice way to pass the day.  The bad part is, by the evening, I end up cooking a huge meal and pretty much negate the work I put in.  Whatever, I'm not gaining any weight and it's keeping me entertained and the food gives me something to do (cook) and enjoy at the end of the day.  I've got chicken fajitas prepped for dinner tonight now and it's almost time I'm getting my itch to go hit the bike for a bit again, almost at 20 miles today so maybe one more round will do it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 01:40:44 PM
As long as it's clean eating, you're probably doing more to fuel yourself effectively as opposed to throwing away your effort.

Marc... I think you're at the point in your journey where it would be beneficial to throw in some anaerobic activity - squats, lunges, pushups, situps, dips etc... a few times a week.

@ Katt... hope my post didn't come of sarcastically.  It was not.  4 minutes of squats is seriously impressive.  Hell, one minute is a good haul!
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Post by: cramx3 on April 07, 2020, 01:55:40 PM
As long as it's clean eating, you're probably doing more to fuel yourself effectively as opposed to throwing away your effort.

Marc... I think you're at the point in your journey where it would be beneficial to throw in some anaerobic activity - squats, lunges, pushups, situps, dips etc... a few times a week.

@ Katt... hope my post didn't come of sarcastically.  It was not.  4 minutes of squats is seriously impressive.  Hell, one minute is a good haul!

I have been doing 100 sit ups every other day, and the off days been doing different dumb bell exercises.  Been doing that pretty regularly for my workouts all through this, just don't talk much about it I guess.  The muscle building was the secondary effort after losing weight so I do agree, I probably should add even more.  Also the stretching, now that I'm back into the biking, the legs are back to needing the good stretching. 
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Post by: The Walrus on April 07, 2020, 01:58:44 PM
I agree with Chad, but you should be easier on yourself! Any work is good work and you're not necessarily canceling things out just because you had a big meal.

Chad, thanks. I normally don't do body weight squatting, just normal back squats, so I couldn't believe how winded and sore my legs were afterwards. Hell halfway through I had to slow down. Seriously underrated. I just did three and a half minutes of pushups this way and I think I'm going to be in pain tomorrow :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 02:07:22 PM
I agree with Chad, but you should be easier on yourself! Any work is good work and you're not necessarily canceling things out just because you had a big meal.

Chad, thanks. I normally don't do body weight squatting, just normal back squats, so I couldn't believe how winded and sore my legs were afterwards. Hell halfway through I had to slow down. Seriously underrated. I just did three and a half minutes of pushups this way and I think I'm going to be in pain tomorrow :lol

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Even if your average is at 4 seconds per pushup, that's 50+ pushups straight.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 07, 2020, 02:09:40 PM
I agree with Chad, but you should be easier on yourself! Any work is good work and you're not necessarily canceling things out just because you had a big meal.

Yea, but it's not just one big meal.  Every single night I've been going all out on a nice big meal.  Since it's all home cooked, it's definitely healthier than eating out, but many of these meals aren't terribly healthy overall (last night was a baked potato and jalapenos slices with cheese and chorizo on them (think jalapeno popper without the fried and cut in half).  I'm not being hard on myself IMO, just being honest with myself.  I don't plan on stopping either, it's been a nice way to end these days home that are otherwise pretty mundane. 
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2020, 02:21:46 PM
Now that I'm almost exclusively working from home and feeling good, my biking has been going crazy.  I get bored every other hour and just hit the bike for 10-15 minutes to get drenched in sweat and then go back to "working" and eventually I get bored and go hit the bike again and so on until I've hit 20 miles.  It's been a nice way to pass the day.  The bad part is, by the evening, I end up cooking a huge meal and pretty much negate the work I put in.  Whatever, I'm not gaining any weight and it's keeping me entertained and the food gives me something to do (cook) and enjoy at the end of the day.  I've got chicken fajitas prepped for dinner tonight now and it's almost time I'm getting my itch to go hit the bike for a bit again, almost at 20 miles today so maybe one more round will do it.

A big part of the reason to train in general is to enjoy good food IMO.  Just train if you enjoy it mate and as long as you are conscious and still sensible with food, then you'll be fine.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2020, 02:24:23 PM
I still have the ability to run and swim which is great at the moment and even though I'm working full time, I set myself a crazy goal to hit this week;

10km swimming and 40km running.  2 days passed and hit 3km swimming and 13.5km running.  Hmm....the running goal may have been a bit optimistic.  If I hit it, I'll be having a massive Easter cheat day.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 07, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
damn, good luck on hitting it but if not that's still some good work
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 02:32:37 PM
I was on the shelf this week - nearly shaved the tip of my thumb off last week (flap of skin was just hanging on).  It wasn't too gory or bloody, but enough that there was no way of letting it heal if I was picking up dumbbells or doing pullups.  So, I biked a few times, and that's about it.  Plus, had a shitty mental-health weekend with all that is going on.

But, back at it tonight.  Just gonna re-start my week's program, since I only got one day into it last week.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2020, 04:19:33 PM
damn, good luck on hitting it but if not that's still some good work

Yeah, I'm an idiot and becoming a bit obsessed to tell you the truth especially the running.  My left leg is fucked too, pain everywhere and can't walk without a limp.  Only really pulled up bad from Sunday's run, and I should rest, but I know there is no way I'll be resting when I've set myself this goal.

I was on the shelf this week - nearly shaved the tip of my thumb off last week (flap of skin was just hanging on).  It wasn't too gory or bloody, but enough that there was no way of letting it heal if I was picking up dumbbells or doing pullups.  So, I biked a few times, and that's about it.  Plus, had a shitty mental-health weekend with all that is going on.

But, back at it tonight.  Just gonna re-start my week's program, since I only got one day into it last week.

Ouch, close call mate.  Hope you're doing alright and make sure you get back into it.  Should help you feel better too.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 07, 2020, 04:34:42 PM
Honestly I think it's psychological more than anything. If I drop and just count out the pushups, fuck that, I'll tap out much earlier. But something about the music helps me stay focused and put more into it especially if the reps and tempo naturally fit together.

The one thing I cannot do is pull-ups and chin-ups. I can do chin-ups, like, three or four of them. But I've never done an actual pull-up in my life and I never manage to progress to actually doing one whenever I try to work my way up to one. It's my biggest disappointment and I really want to fix this now that I'm doing all this bodyweight stuff and whenever I can go back to the gym I'll have to try somehow
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 04:49:19 PM
Look up AthleanX’s top 10 pull-up tips. Some of them are very good, and helped me improve my count a little.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2020, 05:23:05 PM
I can't even really remember how I came to be able to do pullups.  I think just consistent training and they just came with time.  Wasn't an exercise I tried and tried with but now they are a staple.  Some workouts, I'll aim for 100 in total inbetween other sets.  usually 5 to 8 is the rep range for this kind of workout for me per set.  As I get closer to 100 though, 4-5 is max.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 05:48:10 PM
Dayum. I hit 30ish total for a workout and I’m tapped out. I’ve got a variety of bands that I’ll use as an assisted move.

I think ur lighter than me tho, right Kade?
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2020, 06:25:38 PM
Dayum. I hit 30ish total for a workout and I’m tapped out. I’ve got a variety of bands that I’ll use as an assisted move.

I think ur lighter than me tho, right Kade?

Hell yeah, I'm small as fuck.  Down to 79kg (about 175 pounds)
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 09:20:46 PM
Well, that's only about 8lbs less than me at the moment, so not that much less.  100 pullups is mighty impressive.
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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2020, 12:10:15 AM
Well, that's only about 8lbs less than me at the moment, so not that much less.  100 pullups is mighty impressive.

They aren't in succession, and I don't aim for 100 that often.  I started doing it on back day in between working sets to cut rest time down.  Would do a set of rows, then pump out 8 pull ups.  Do 3-4 sets of rows or whatever with pull ups inbetween.  Then move on to something else like lat pulldown or even just bicep curls if I'm feeling it and getting doing the pull ups inbetween.  As I said, when I get to 70+, I'm going 3 or 4 at once, which sucks because you are just doing more work inbetween making it harder for the next couple of pullups.

I just change my grip up.  Narrow overhand, regular wide grip, then I'll always mix it up with some inverted ones, they are much easier.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2020, 05:36:21 AM
Well, that's only about 8lbs less than me at the moment, so not that much less.  100 pullups is mighty impressive.

They aren't in succession, and I don't aim for 100 that often.  I started doing it on back day in between working sets to cut rest time down.  Would do a set of rows, then pump out 8 pull ups.  Do 3-4 sets of rows or whatever with pull ups inbetween.  Then move on to something else like lat pulldown or even just bicep curls if I'm feeling it and getting doing the pull ups inbetween.  As I said, when I get to 70+, I'm going 3 or 4 at once, which sucks because you are just doing more work inbetween making it harder for the next couple of pullups.

I just change my grip up.  Narrow overhand, regular wide grip, then I'll always mix it up with some inverted ones, they are much easier.

Oh, I gathered it wasn't 100 consecutive... but 100 in total is still pretty impressive.  I mean, it's a compound movement, and really gets the HR going, so putting that kind of quantity in as a bit of a superset with other movements is  :omg:  I could probably do 30ish unassisted if I was just doing strict pullups.  After that, I too am adjusting my grip to under-hand or opposite (I have a pullup bar with the handles that come out at 90o from the bar), or assisted with a band.

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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2020, 06:53:51 PM
Well, that's only about 8lbs less than me at the moment, so not that much less.  100 pullups is mighty impressive.

They aren't in succession, and I don't aim for 100 that often.  I started doing it on back day in between working sets to cut rest time down.  Would do a set of rows, then pump out 8 pull ups.  Do 3-4 sets of rows or whatever with pull ups inbetween.  Then move on to something else like lat pulldown or even just bicep curls if I'm feeling it and getting doing the pull ups inbetween.  As I said, when I get to 70+, I'm going 3 or 4 at once, which sucks because you are just doing more work inbetween making it harder for the next couple of pullups.

I just change my grip up.  Narrow overhand, regular wide grip, then I'll always mix it up with some inverted ones, they are much easier.

Oh, I gathered it wasn't 100 consecutive... but 100 in total is still pretty impressive.  I mean, it's a compound movement, and really gets the HR going, so putting that kind of quantity in as a bit of a superset with other movements is  :omg:  I could probably do 30ish unassisted if I was just doing strict pullups.  After that, I too am adjusting my grip to under-hand or opposite (I have a pullup bar with the handles that come out at 90o from the bar), or assisted with a band.

Mate, by the sounds of it and the type of training you do, plus if you can fo 30, you'd be able to bang out more in between other exercises.  Doing it that way is not as hard as it sounds.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
To be clear ... me doing 30ish isn't consecutive - it's like 4 sets of 8.  I tap out at 8-10 for sure.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 08, 2020, 09:46:20 PM
That's lots in a single set, IMO. Especially if they're strict form

 I love pull ups, but only started them a couple years ago. On a whim i decided to do a month long pull up challenge that involved doing 50 every other day in week 1, and ending with 100 by week 4. On the "off" days i did 15 push ups EMOM for 10 minutes. I would start with sets of 4-5 pull ups (alternating between 4 grips), but by the end i was only managing 1 or 2 per set. By the end of the month i did my last 100 in less time than it took to do 50 on day 1
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2020, 05:36:27 AM
To be clear ... me doing 30ish isn't consecutive - it's like 4 sets of 8.  I tap out at 8-10 for sure.

10 per set is very good.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 07:10:30 AM
To be clear ... me doing 30ish isn't consecutive - it's like 4 sets of 8.  I tap out at 8-10 for sure.

10 per set is very good.

I remember Jon once said he did death-by-pullup (do a set EMOM, starting with 1 rep, and increasing by 1 every minute), and got up to 17.  I tried that recently, made it to 8.

I love doing a variety of 'death by' rounds.  When I had a access to a gym a couple years ago, I loved doing death-by-tire flip.
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2020, 07:29:09 AM
What does EMOM mean?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 08:04:34 AM
What does EMOM mean?

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Post by: The Walrus on April 09, 2020, 08:07:48 AM
What's a Google?
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 09, 2020, 09:54:05 AM
To be clear ... me doing 30ish isn't consecutive - it's like 4 sets of 8.  I tap out at 8-10 for sure.

10 per set is very good.

I remember Jon once said he did death-by-pullup (do a set EMOM, starting with 1 rep, and increasing by 1 every minute), and got up to 17.  I tried that recently, made it to 8.

I love doing a variety of 'death by' rounds.  When I had a access to a gym a couple years ago, I loved doing death-by-tire flip.

I've done death by burpee (19 rounds) but never death by pull ups. I think I'd manage 5 or 6 lol. I think i could crush a death by squats
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 12:53:17 PM
To be clear ... me doing 30ish isn't consecutive - it's like 4 sets of 8.  I tap out at 8-10 for sure.

10 per set is very good.

I remember Jon once said he did death-by-pullup (do a set EMOM, starting with 1 rep, and increasing by 1 every minute), and got up to 17.  I tried that recently, made it to 8.

I love doing a variety of 'death by' rounds.  When I had a access to a gym a couple years ago, I loved doing death-by-tire flip.

I've done death by burpee (19 rounds) but never death by pull ups. I think I'd manage 5 or 6 lol. I think i could crush a death by squats

For simpler moves like that, I'll up the start and increments to 2 or 5 instead of 1.
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2020, 07:39:27 PM
To be clear ... me doing 30ish isn't consecutive - it's like 4 sets of 8.  I tap out at 8-10 for sure.

10 per set is very good.

I remember Jon once said he did death-by-pullup (do a set EMOM, starting with 1 rep, and increasing by 1 every minute), and got up to 17.  I tried that recently, made it to 8.

I love doing a variety of 'death by' rounds.  When I had a access to a gym a couple years ago, I loved doing death-by-tire flip.

Fuck yeah, that sounds awesome.  Definitely trying that.
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2020, 07:40:42 PM
It's Good Friday here and up to 7km swimming and 28km of running.  Wanted to get the rest done by Saturday evening (10km swim, 40km run).  Got some work to do.  My leg is still fucked, but whatever.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 07:56:56 PM
That’s it .... be a real man, injure yourself!!

Kade... don’t be an idiot.  :chill

I believe I’ve got plantar fasciitis on my right foot/heel. Anytime I flex my foot (ie, stretch my calf), I get this strong tingling/burning in the back of my heel. It’s below my Achilles, so the only thing that suits the symptoms is plantar fasciitis.  Hoping I can shake this.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 09, 2020, 08:42:56 PM
Death by tire flip would be fun. I used to do tire flips and tire sledging at my old gym.

I did a triple death-by tonight. Started with pull ups and only made it to 8. Pushups i started at 5 and made it to 17. Even fresh i don't think i could have done a round of 18. Squats i started at 10, went up by 2, and died a horrible death at 42. I did a 60min bike interval workout last night, so i think i might have been able to do 44 or 46 had my legs been fresh.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 08:49:50 PM
Nice workout Shredder!  If my math is right, that’s 36 pull-ups, 132 pushups, and over 400 squats.

Mother of god.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 09, 2020, 09:36:14 PM
Nice workout Shredder!  If my math is right, that’s 36 pull-ups, 132 pushups, and over 400 squats.

Mother of god.
yeah, it was 450 and change with the partial round. It was worse, too. I forgot to mention that i did sit ups to fill out the minutes. I bailed on them at some point into the squats, but my final tally was 143 or something like that. My legs are definitely 400  squat sore lol
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 10, 2020, 01:37:26 PM
Geez, and I was proud of myself for increasing to 10 pushups a day this week.  You must be some kind of immortal :).  Way to go Shredder!
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Post by: cramx3 on April 10, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Geez, and I was proud of myself for increasing to 10 pushups a day this week.  You must be some kind of immortal :).  Way to go Shredder!

We are all on our own pace here, you should still feel proud of your accomplishments.  I know I can't do a lot of these exercises at those reps either, but I am still proud of my own progress and that's all that matters.  Keep it up Northern Lion and one day we too could be doing mad reps.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 10, 2020, 02:12:31 PM
Geez, and I was proud of myself for increasing to 10 pushups a day this week.  You must be some kind of immortal :).  Way to go Shredder!

We are all on our own pace here, you should still feel proud of your accomplishments.  I know I can't do a lot of these exercises at those reps either, but I am still proud of my own progress and that's all that matters.  Keep it up Northern Lion and one day we too could be doing mad reps.
Nailed it. It's all about competing against yourself. If you can do more pushups today than you could a year ago, then you're winning. Unless you're a top professional athlete there's always going to be someone faster, stronger, more skilled, etc.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 10, 2020, 02:17:28 PM


I believe I’ve got plantar fasciitis on my right foot/heel. Anytime I flex my foot (ie, stretch my calf), I get this strong tingling/burning in the back of my heel. It’s below my Achilles, so the only thing that suits the symptoms is plantar fasciitis.  Hoping I can shake this.

Go to the store and get inserts for your shoes.  If you have a Fleet Sports or a place like that where the employees watch you walk and then fit them accordingly, go there. I had plantar fasciitis about a decade ago (felt like I was stepping on a nail at the ball of my foot with each step I took), and as soon as I got the inserts, it went away almost immediately.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 10, 2020, 02:35:06 PM


I believe I’ve got plantar fasciitis on my right foot/heel. Anytime I flex my foot (ie, stretch my calf), I get this strong tingling/burning in the back of my heel. It’s below my Achilles, so the only thing that suits the symptoms is plantar fasciitis.  Hoping I can shake this.

Go to the store and get inserts for your shoes.  If you have a Fleet Sports or a place like that where the employees watch you walk and then fit them accordingly, go there. I had plantar fasciitis about a decade ago (felt like I was stepping on a nail at the ball of my foot with each step I took), and as soon as I got the inserts, it went away almost immediately.

That's my experience, too. Felt better immediately, and took maybe a day in new insoles until I was back to 100%
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 10, 2020, 02:40:55 PM


I believe I’ve got plantar fasciitis on my right foot/heel. Anytime I flex my foot (ie, stretch my calf), I get this strong tingling/burning in the back of my heel. It’s below my Achilles, so the only thing that suits the symptoms is plantar fasciitis.  Hoping I can shake this.

Go to the store and get inserts for your shoes.  If you have a Fleet Sports or a place like that where the employees watch you walk and then fit them accordingly, go there. I had plantar fasciitis about a decade ago (felt like I was stepping on a nail at the ball of my foot with each step I took), and as soon as I got the inserts, it went away almost immediately.

I had plantar fasciitis also.  I tried inserts but I guess mine was severe for those to work.  I tried them for 8 years until I finally decided I had had enough pain, and got surgery.  My feet have been fine ever since.

I'm not saying you need surgery though.  Just don't go 8 years with pain if they don't end up solving the problem :).
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2020, 05:22:15 AM
Thanks for the tips/suggestions guys.  Some more background on the situation.

I think it was a specific workout that caused the problem, so I don't think it's an ongoing/degenerative thing.  As for getting inserts, we have neither that store chain up here Kev, nor would it be open at the moment anyway.  Another contributing factor is I walk around barefoot (or in socks) 80% of the time.  I've been working from home for 10 years or so, so wearing shoes isn't common (at best) and a rarity (at worst).  I've dug out pair of Nike's that I used to wear while working out that have good arch supports in them, and have been trying to wear those all day.  It seems to be helping (along with doing various stretches recommended by the interwebz).  It's not constant pain, just hits if I over extend the motion of a calf stretch.  It's (naturally) worse in the morning after being immobile, but by the end of the day is almost non-existent.

So, I'll try and dig up some old Dr. Scholl's inserts to put in my regular workout shoes and see if that helps, and continue to stretch it out.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 11, 2020, 06:45:33 AM
I just threw Dr Scholls in my work shoes, and it fixed me up nicely. Rexall pharmacies sell them and should still be open. At least they are in Alberta.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 11, 2020, 06:46:20 AM
I just threw Dr Scholls in my work shoes, and it fixed me up nicely. Rexall pharmacies sell them and should still be open. At least they are in Alberta.

You gellin', brah?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2020, 06:59:10 AM
I just threw Dr Scholls in my work shoes, and it fixed me up nicely. Rexall pharmacies sell them and should still be open. At least they are in Alberta.

Costco sells 'em too.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 11, 2020, 07:02:55 AM
I just threw Dr Scholls in my work shoes, and it fixed me up nicely. Rexall pharmacies sell them and should still be open. At least they are in Alberta.

You gellin', brah?
Is there any other way lol?
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Post by: KevShmev on April 11, 2020, 08:15:33 AM
Thanks for the tips/suggestions guys.  Some more background on the situation.

I think it was a specific workout that caused the problem, so I don't think it's an ongoing/degenerative thing.  As for getting inserts, we have neither that store chain up here Kev, nor would it be open at the moment anyway.  Another contributing factor is I walk around barefoot (or in socks) 80% of the time. I've been working from home for 10 years or so, so wearing shoes isn't common (at best) and a rarity (at worst).  I've dug out pair of Nike's that I used to wear while working out that have good arch supports in them, and have been trying to wear those all day.  It seems to be helping (along with doing various stretches recommended by the interwebz).  It's not constant pain, just hits if I over extend the motion of a calf stretch.  It's (naturally) worse in the morning after being immobile, but by the end of the day is almost non-existent.

So, I'll try and dig up some old Dr. Scholl's inserts to put in my regular workout shoes and see if that helps, and continue to stretch it out.

That is probably your biggest issue, to be honest.  I was told back then, I think by my doctor as well whom I went and saw for it at one point, that walking around barefoot too much is really bad for your feet.  Always better to have the support of shoes.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2020, 10:33:12 AM
Thanks for the tips/suggestions guys.  Some more background on the situation.

I think it was a specific workout that caused the problem, so I don't think it's an ongoing/degenerative thing.  As for getting inserts, we have neither that store chain up here Kev, nor would it be open at the moment anyway.  Another contributing factor is I walk around barefoot (or in socks) 80% of the time. I've been working from home for 10 years or so, so wearing shoes isn't common (at best) and a rarity (at worst).  I've dug out pair of Nike's that I used to wear while working out that have good arch supports in them, and have been trying to wear those all day.  It seems to be helping (along with doing various stretches recommended by the interwebz).  It's not constant pain, just hits if I over extend the motion of a calf stretch.  It's (naturally) worse in the morning after being immobile, but by the end of the day is almost non-existent.

So, I'll try and dig up some old Dr. Scholl's inserts to put in my regular workout shoes and see if that helps, and continue to stretch it out.

That is probably your biggest issue, to be honest.  I was told back then, I think by my doctor as well whom I went and saw for it at one point, that walking around barefoot too much is really bad for your feet.  Always better to have the support of shoes.

Yeah, and getting 'up there' in age ain't helping either.  I've already noticed a difference in the past week in wearing my 'travel' workout shoes around the house.  Found some inserts for my current workout shoes - big difference this morning.  Also found (on Amazon) some socks with arch supports that I think I'll give a go.
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Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2020, 04:39:00 PM
Hope you can shake that off Chad, sounds nasty.

I'm done.  10km swim and 40km run in 6 days.  My leg is officially fucked and I'm limping badly lol.  Gonna force myself to have 2 days off I think.  Enjoy'd the golden arches last night and some Krispy Kreme as a reward.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2020, 05:05:45 PM
My leg is officially fucked and I'm limping badly lol.

Not sure that deserves a "reward".   :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on April 11, 2020, 05:07:13 PM
Yeah, and getting 'up there' in age ain't helping either.  I've already noticed a difference in the past week in wearing my 'travel' workout shoes around the house.  Found some inserts for my current workout shoes - big difference this morning.  Also found (on Amazon) some socks with arch supports that I think I'll give a go.

 :tup :tup
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2020, 03:50:18 AM
My leg is officially fucked and I'm limping badly lol.

Not sure that deserves a "reward".   :lol

Too late.  :biggrin:

Wasn't trying but lost 900g (1.9lbs) in 6 days.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2020, 04:36:29 AM
NICE!  I was pretty much flat this week (after going up 3lbs last week).

Gonna try and go 100% clean this week, along with a few sessions on the bike while catching up on TV that has been sitting in "My List" on Netflix for quite some time.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 12, 2020, 02:16:34 PM
Did 1hr45 on the indoor bike this morning. It snowed (again) overnight, which is setting back the start of the road and mtb season. Street sweeping is supposed to start next week, so if it can just stop f'ing snowing i could at least pull out my road bike. It's been a depressing start to the spring here, and that's without considering covid.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2020, 03:33:51 PM
A friend of mine in Cgy posted pics on FB. WTF, man. Alberta weather blows!

Sun/cloud mix here today .... 14C.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 12, 2020, 05:00:24 PM
A friend of mine in Cgy posted pics on FB. WTF, man. Alberta weather blows!

Sun/cloud mix here today .... 14C.
Yup. Some years we get great weather, but last summer it rained almost every day for at least part of the day, winter was cold as fuck, and this is a miserable spring. It's -4c
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 08:18:14 PM
This death by pullup thing, surely you can just start on 5 or something.  I mean, 1 in 1 minute, then 2 from the next minute.  The first few rounds just seems like wasting time.  Unless I'm missing something.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2020, 08:21:58 PM
I thought the same thing
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2020, 08:22:53 PM
This death by pullup thing, surely you can just start on 5 or something.  I mean, 1 in 1 minute, then 2 from the next minute.  The first few rounds just seems like wasting time.  Unless I'm missing something.

Just do it boys. That minute will catch up with you fast enough.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 09:16:54 PM
This death by pullup thing, surely you can just start on 5 or something.  I mean, 1 in 1 minute, then 2 from the next minute.  The first few rounds just seems like wasting time.  Unless I'm missing something.

Just do it boys. That minute will catch up with you fast enough.

What do I do in the first minute when I've done 1 pullup with 58 seconds to go?
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 13, 2020, 09:43:53 PM
l scale them sometimes for exercises like squats ot pushups where i can do 25  or more in a single set. Those i might start at 10. Burpees i would start at 5, pull ups 1 or 3 if I'm doing it as part of a larger workout. If you can "only" do 10 pull ups in a set, then you'll barely last 4 or 5 minutes starting on 5.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2020, 11:51:04 PM
This death by pullup thing, surely you can just start on 5 or something.  I mean, 1 in 1 minute, then 2 from the next minute.  The first few rounds just seems like wasting time.  Unless I'm missing something.

Just do it boys. That minute will catch up with you fast enough.

What do I do in the first minute when I've done 1 pullup with 58 seconds to go?

 :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 12:28:25 AM
l scale them sometimes for exercises like squats ot pushups where i can do 25  or more in a single set. Those i might start at 10. Burpees i would start at 5, pull ups 1 or 3 if I'm doing it as part of a larger workout. If you can "only" do 10 pull ups in a set, then you'll barely last 4 or 5 minutes starting on 5.

Nah, I'm sweet.  I may start on 5, depending on when in the workout I try it.

You can rest and pump out a few more can't you if you fatigue around the 30 second mark for example?  I know that means you'll be fucked for the next minute but at least you can keep pushing.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2020, 07:19:00 AM
l scale them sometimes for exercises like squats ot pushups where i can do 25  or more in a single set. Those i might start at 10. Burpees i would start at 5, pull ups 1 or 3 if I'm doing it as part of a larger workout. If you can "only" do 10 pull ups in a set, then you'll barely last 4 or 5 minutes starting on 5.

Precisely.

@ Kade... Wait it out man, just wait it out.  Like I said, by the 4th or 5th minute, it'll catch up with you.  These 'death-by' style of sets start out easy-peasy, but the finish deadly.  Patience young Padawan.  Don't be in such a rush to be "killed".  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 07:29:53 PM
l scale them sometimes for exercises like squats ot pushups where i can do 25  or more in a single set. Those i might start at 10. Burpees i would start at 5, pull ups 1 or 3 if I'm doing it as part of a larger workout. If you can "only" do 10 pull ups in a set, then you'll barely last 4 or 5 minutes starting on 5.

Precisely.

@ Kade... Wait it out man, just wait it out.  Like I said, by the 4th or 5th minute, it'll catch up with you.  These 'death-by' style of sets start out easy-peasy, but the finish deadly.  Patience young Padawan.  Don't be in such a rush to be "killed".  :lol

With how quiet work is and everything going on, my training has gone through the roof.  It's like I'm literally trying to 'kill' myself with how hard I've been going.  It's been incredible.  :lol

I'll try this pull up thing this afternoon or maybe tomorrow.  I wonder if you are allowed to change the grip up.  I may start at 1 then and make sure form is strict and see how I go.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 14, 2020, 07:39:56 PM
I’m interested to see what Kade thinks of this
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 07:59:04 PM
I’m interested to see what Kade thinks of this

Pressure is on!

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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 14, 2020, 08:44:25 PM
I alternate grips. At 195lbs, I'm lucky to be able to do pull ups at all
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 08:49:07 PM
I alternate grips. At 195lbs, I'm lucky to be able to do pull ups at all

Alternating grips will allow me to be able to do a lot more.

I'd love to be that weight with the body fat I am now.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2020, 08:49:29 PM
Do what Shredder did - a threesome of Death-By rounds. That’ll finish ya fo sho. I’m itching to do that, and might give it a go after I finish month 2 of my current program (just started week 6 today). Killer leg day, including 10 total minutes of mountain climbers. My hips are feeling it.
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 08:52:16 PM
Do what Shredder did - a threesome of Death-By rounds. That’ll finish ya fo sho. I’m itching to do that, and might give it a go after I finish month 2 of my current program (just started week 6 today). Killer leg day, including 10 total minutes of mountain climbers. My hips are feeling it.

Threesome you say, I'm in!

Fuck Mountain Climbers.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
Do what Shredder did - a threesome of Death-By rounds. That’ll finish ya fo sho. I’m itching to do that, and might give it a go after I finish month 2 of my current program (just started week 6 today). Killer leg day, including 10 total minutes of mountain climbers. My hips are feeling it.

Threesome you say, I'm in!

Only if Kip is one of the other two though! Amirite?!?!?
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 09:31:06 PM
Do what Shredder did - a threesome of Death-By rounds. That’ll finish ya fo sho. I’m itching to do that, and might give it a go after I finish month 2 of my current program (just started week 6 today). Killer leg day, including 10 total minutes of mountain climbers. My hips are feeling it.

Threesome you say, I'm in!

Only if Kip is one of the other two though! Amirite?!?!?

Yes, you are right.  You know you are right.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 14, 2020, 10:00:09 PM

I'd love to be that weight with the body fat I am now.
I'm sitting around 9-10% BF. Although i haven't had any accurate measuring for about 3 months, so that's just an estimate. For the last 2 years now I've been doing body re-composition, whereby i try to maintain my weight between 193-200 while still losing body fat. It's why i do mostly HIIT or CrossFit style strength sessions. Two birds, as they say. I've shed 6% in that time while maintaining my muscle mass.

It's a touch ironic that my goal of maintaining a muscular physique is contradictory to performing in my primary sport, cycling. I would be noticeably faster if i just let my weight drop 10 or 15 lbs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2020, 04:35:43 AM
How tall are you Shredder?

I'm sitting at low 180s (@ 6'2") and the BMI scale I use reads 14.5%(ish) BF.  My goal is to get to 10% by my 50th birthday, but it's been slow going.  9lbs of BF doesn't sound like a lot, but fuck if it isn't stubborn as hell.  I know I'm not strict enough with my diet... but I still have 19 months to get to where I want to be.
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Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 05:30:11 AM

I'd love to be that weight with the body fat I am now.
I'm sitting around 9-10% BF. Although i haven't had any accurate measuring for about 3 months, so that's just an estimate. For the last 2 years now I've been doing body re-composition, whereby i try to maintain my weight between 193-200 while still losing body fat. It's why i do mostly HIIT or CrossFit style strength sessions. Two birds, as they say. I've shed 6% in that time while maintaining my muscle mass.

It's a touch ironic that my goal of maintaining a muscular physique is contradictory to performing in my primary sport, cycling. I would be noticeably faster if i just let my weight drop 10 or 15 lbs.

What do your calories and macros look like mate?
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 15, 2020, 06:53:59 AM
I'm 5"9.

My target net calories per day is 2100, and i eat back almost all exercise calories. Since i workout so often my average calories per day over a month usually works out to be in the 2500-2900 range. It's way higher on days i do long rides where I'm burning 2500 or more calories. On non-exercise days i have to really stick to the nutrition or just end up gaining weight. It's basically like doing cut/bulk at the same time.

Macros are 40/25/35, carb-fat-protein. I've tinkered with the ratio of the last few years, and 40% carbs is as low as i can go without suffering on my endurance cardio.
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Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 07:39:24 PM
I'm 5"9.

My target net calories per day is 2100, and i eat back almost all exercise calories. Since i workout so often my average calories per day over a month usually works out to be in the 2500-2900 range. It's way higher on days i do long rides where I'm burning 2500 or more calories. On non-exercise days i have to really stick to the nutrition or just end up gaining weight. It's basically like doing cut/bulk at the same time.

Macros are 40/25/35, carb-fat-protein. I've tinkered with the ratio of the last few years, and 40% carbs is as low as i can go without suffering on my endurance cardio.

Thanks mate.  If you've been reading I've been toying with the whole keto thing which I love but this week, have had to bring more carbs back in as the amount of exercise I'm doing is almost too hard to keep up with.

Seems like you have a good knack on what you're doing.  I'm pretty intuative but my calories would be around that 2500, which is interesting becuase I weigh less and am taller.  The bolded part is one thing I've really learnt lately.  You gotta train, and train hard and consistently.  I feel so much focus is put on nutrition, but if you're not putting in the work, it's so easy for your results to start swaying.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 16, 2020, 04:55:29 AM
I'm 5"9.

My target net calories per day is 2100, and i eat back almost all exercise calories. Since i workout so often my average calories per day over a month usually works out to be in the 2500-2900 range. It's way higher on days i do long rides where I'm burning 2500 or more calories. On non-exercise days i have to really stick to the nutrition or just end up gaining weight. It's basically like doing cut/bulk at the same time.

Macros are 40/25/35, carb-fat-protein. I've tinkered with the ratio of the last few years, and 40% carbs is as low as i can go without suffering on my endurance cardio.

Thanks mate.  If you've been reading I've been toying with the whole keto thing which I love but this week, have had to bring more carbs back in as the amount of exercise I'm doing is almost too hard to keep up with.

Seems like you have a good knack on what you're doing.  I'm pretty intuative but my calories would be around that 2500, which is interesting becuase I weigh less and am taller.  The bolded part is one thing I've really learnt lately.  You gotta train, and train hard and consistently.  I feel so much focus is put on nutrition, but if you're not putting in the work, it's so easy for your results to start swaying.

I agree completely on this, but I do believe nutrition is more important than exercise in the grand scheme of body composition.  No one can out-work a bad diet.  I also believe that a great diet can off-set a mediocre exercise plan moreseo than a great exercise program can offset a mediocre diet.  I believe I'm living proof of the latter at the moment.  I've got a rock-solid exercise program, but mediocre diet - and I'm not getting the results I'd like to be.  I'm just not ready to go into a full discipline with nutrition at the moment.
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Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2020, 05:32:16 AM
Depends what the definition of bad diet is.  Take away everday then yeah your fucked but I'm successfully eating pretty loose on the weekend and still making progress.  It's definitely a balancing act and a lot of common sense IMO.
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Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2020, 05:33:56 AM
Did the pull up challenge.  Did 15 rounds.  I started at 1 rep and did some abs or curls inbetween until set 10 I think.  Set 14 was okay but I gassed out on the 15th.  Got it done but didn't even attempt the 16th.  Wasn't going to happen.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 16, 2020, 05:58:27 AM
Did the pull up challenge.  Did 15 rounds.  I started at 1 rep and did some abs or curls inbetween until set 10 I think.  Set 14 was okay but I gassed out on the 15th.  Got it done but didn't even attempt the 16th.  Wasn't going to happen.

Impressive!  That's 112 pullups!   :omg:
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 16, 2020, 06:09:13 AM
Quite impressive. I couldn't do 15 in a minute at my freshest, let alone at the end of the workout. Kudos.

I almost never have the will to start that last round lol. I just stare at the clock and think "no way am i going to start another round in 5sec"
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 16, 2020, 06:22:35 AM
Impressive  :tup
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Post by: ReaperKK on April 16, 2020, 07:05:11 AM
This whole work from home shelter in place has got me in the best shape I've been in 5+ years. I'm not as strong and I've lost a bit of muscle but I've been so strict with my eating I'm shedding body fat. It's really eye opening how much going to work, and stress from work makes me eat like trash. Really have to try and stay on top of it when I go back to the office.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 16, 2020, 08:43:35 AM
Working from home has actually made it a little harder for me. I have a great home gym, but i usually bike commute to the office. It gave me anywhere from 45min to 2hr of "free" exercise during the day depending on whether i took the direct route or used the mtb singletrack. It's been a struggle to replace that time on the bike. I think once the mtb season really gets going I'll just wake up early to for a morning ride.
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Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2020, 09:33:42 PM
Did the pull up challenge.  Did 15 rounds.  I started at 1 rep and did some abs or curls inbetween until set 10 I think.  Set 14 was okay but I gassed out on the 15th.  Got it done but didn't even attempt the 16th.  Wasn't going to happen.

Impressive!  That's 112 pullups!   :omg:

120 by my count.  ;D

Quite impressive. I couldn't do 15 in a minute at my freshest, let alone at the end of the workout. Kudos.

I almost never have the will to start that last round lol. I just stare at the clock and think "no way am i going to start another round in 5sec"

Thanks mate.  I did cheat on the 15th set though and did 10, short rest, 3, short rest then 2.  It was inside 45 seconds though.  I'm not sure if that's cheating.  On the 14th set I was able to do a sideways bicep curl style grip, which helped so was cheating a little too.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 17, 2020, 06:38:40 AM
Thanks mate.  I did cheat on the 15th set though and did 10, short rest, 3, short rest then 2.  It was inside 45 seconds though.  I'm not sure if that's cheating.  On the 14th set I was able to do a sideways bicep curl style grip, which helped so was cheating a little too.
Resting during the set isn't cheating at all. The goal is just getting the reps done during the minute, so it doesn't matter how you do it.
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Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2020, 07:03:13 AM
Thanks mate.  I did cheat on the 15th set though and did 10, short rest, 3, short rest then 2.  It was inside 45 seconds though.  I'm not sure if that's cheating.  On the 14th set I was able to do a sideways bicep curl style grip, which helped so was cheating a little too.
Resting during the set isn't cheating at all. The goal is just getting the reps done during the minute, so it doesn't matter how you do it.

Thought as much.  Will aim for the sweet 16 next week.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 17, 2020, 07:36:30 AM
Thanks mate.  I did cheat on the 15th set though and did 10, short rest, 3, short rest then 2.  It was inside 45 seconds though.  I'm not sure if that's cheating.  On the 14th set I was able to do a sideways bicep curl style grip, which helped so was cheating a little too.
Resting during the set isn't cheating at all. The goal is just getting the reps done during the minute, so it doesn't matter how you do it.

Thought as much.  Will aim for the sweet 16 next week.
Since you're so good at pull ups, you should give the "Cindy" CrossFit workout a try. 5 pull ups+10 push ups+15 squats=1 round. As many rounds as possible in 20 minutes.
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Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2020, 06:49:46 PM
Thanks mate.  I did cheat on the 15th set though and did 10, short rest, 3, short rest then 2.  It was inside 45 seconds though.  I'm not sure if that's cheating.  On the 14th set I was able to do a sideways bicep curl style grip, which helped so was cheating a little too.
Resting during the set isn't cheating at all. The goal is just getting the reps done during the minute, so it doesn't matter how you do it.

Thought as much.  Will aim for the sweet 16 next week.
Since you're so good at pull ups, you should give the "Cindy" CrossFit workout a try. 5 pull ups+10 push ups+15 squats=1 round. As many rounds as possible in 20 minutes.

Sounds okay.  Still fits into my style of training.

I'm guessing bodyweight squats?
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Post by: SchecterShredder on April 17, 2020, 07:17:12 PM
Thanks mate.  I did cheat on the 15th set though and did 10, short rest, 3, short rest then 2.  It was inside 45 seconds though.  I'm not sure if that's cheating.  On the 14th set I was able to do a sideways bicep curl style grip, which helped so was cheating a little too.
Resting during the set isn't cheating at all. The goal is just getting the reps done during the minute, so it doesn't matter how you do it.

Thought as much.  Will aim for the sweet 16 next week.
Since you're so good at pull ups, you should give the "Cindy" CrossFit workout a try. 5 pull ups+10 push ups+15 squats=1 round. As many rounds as possible in 20 minutes.

Sounds okay.  Still fits into my style of training.

I'm guessing bodyweight squats?
Yeah, that's the normal version. There's always crazy folks that use a weighted vest for the whole thing
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2020, 11:47:34 PM
Did a decent run yesterday.  8km (4.9miles) run for 42:24.  My previous best timed was 44:58, but two weeks ago, I had some music going and forgot to time but judging by the playlist it was around 44:00.  Felt really strong and showed in the time. 

Been doing all different things when it comes to running to try and improve.  One day will go slow but long distance then other days shorter distance yet quicker, then interval sprints another day.  Trying to basically do something different each day to improve.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2020, 04:39:39 AM
Last week was a good one for me - dropped almost 2.5lbs, and 0.2% of BF.  Just goes to show how important a clean diet is - no alcohol, only a couple of 'rewards' (some leftover chocolate from Christmas).  Throw in a couple of extra SS cardio sessions on the bike, and voila!

Off-day today, and I'm gonna need it.  Yesterday was a lot of lower back and hamstring work... and I'm feeling it today.
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Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2020, 05:17:49 AM
Left over chocolate from XMas!?  Jeez you have some willpower mate to let them sit that long.  ;D
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 08:01:11 AM
So, after 3 days of heartburn - and getting too cocky yesterday and feeling it again last night - I've gotta go Shaolin monk on my diet. I used to be pretty good but the last few months haven't been so great, and my diet isn't what it used to be.

Cutting out red meat, for the time being. Sticking to the usual favorites for protein that don't make me feel like a slob: eggs, tuna, salmon, chicken, turkey. I have a rice cooker that gets plenty of use; I need to figure out ways to spice that up. Throw in vegetables with the rice, use bouillon cubes to flavor up the rice, get back to cooking all the noodle-based dishes I loved to make for a quick lunch. Fruit is big; I eat apples and bananas regularly but I want to make a habit of keeping fruit around and trying fruit that I rarely eat or need to eat more often.

But, most pressing: because I'm a single 29 year-old dude, I really need to learn my foods. What the fuck do I do with bok choy? Radishes? RJ, help a helpless noob. Someone! :lol
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Post by: hunnus2000 on April 29, 2020, 08:25:47 AM
So, after 3 days of heartburn - and getting too cocky yesterday and feeling it again last night - I've gotta go Shaolin monk on my diet. I used to be pretty good but the last few months haven't been so great, and my diet isn't what it used to be.

Cutting out red meat, for the time being. Sticking to the usual favorites for protein that don't make me feel like a slob: eggs, tuna, salmon, chicken, turkey. I have a rice cooker that gets plenty of use; I need to figure out ways to spice that up. Throw in vegetables with the rice, use bouillon cubes to flavor up the rice, get back to cooking all the noodle-based dishes I loved to make for a quick lunch. Fruit is big; I eat apples and bananas regularly but I want to make a habit of keeping fruit around and trying fruit that I rarely eat or need to eat more often.

But, most pressing: because I'm a single 29 year-old dude, I really need to learn my foods. What the fuck do I do with bok choy? Radishes? RJ, help a helpless noob. Someone! :lol

YouTube is your friend.

Speaking of broth, my wife bought an Instant Pot which works like magic but we mostly use it for making bone broth. We have a meat market that we get our bones from and I won't ever go back to store bought broth.  :metal
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 29, 2020, 09:23:53 AM
Well, I'm no food expert, but as far as radishes go, I just eat them.  I love radishes!
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2020, 09:27:09 AM
RJ, help a helpless noob. Someone! :lol

Your first mistake is thinking RJ comes into this thread!   :rollin
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 09:28:56 AM
 :lol :lol :lol

You can just pop radishes and eat 'em? I'm so clueless with veggies outside of the basic noob choices: carrots, corn, lettuce, peas and green beans...

I wonder if Alton Brown has a 'food for dummies' series.
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 29, 2020, 09:39:01 AM
:lol :lol :lol

You can just pop radishes and eat 'em? I'm so clueless with veggies outside of the basic noob choices: carrots, corn, lettuce, peas and green beans...

I wonder if Alton Brown has a 'food for dummies' series.


Yeah, give 'em a try, they're good.  They are a little on the hot side, so just don't eat more than one at a time  :)
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Post by: cramx3 on April 29, 2020, 10:53:01 AM
I can't give advice, I also am a basic veggie bitch. 

My diet/exercise regime has pretty much been the same.  I haven't gained and I haven't lost weight, but I've been working out hard and eating just as hard I guess.  I feel pretty good though, so that's most important because I feel I've gained a small amount of muscle in the process of eating and working hard, vs. the strict diet since I'm pretty close to my goal weight anyway.
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2020, 02:54:36 PM
:lol :lol :lol

You can just pop radishes and eat 'em? I'm so clueless with veggies outside of the basic noob choices: carrots, corn, lettuce, peas and green beans...

I wonder if Alton Brown has a 'food for dummies' series.

Can't help you at all mate.  All my meals are a piece of meat with basic green beans and broccoli cooked in the microwave.  I HATE cooking so I eat basic as fuck.  I don't have a clue on how to prepare a radish lol.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 03:07:21 PM
I'm really hoping it's not a permanent change I'll have to make. I've never had heartburn before, just this one time, but 5 days later still having discomfort has me worried. Still, out of curiosity I think I'm gonna grab some radishes after work  :lol
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 29, 2020, 03:15:52 PM
:lol :lol :lol

You can just pop radishes and eat 'em? I'm so clueless with veggies outside of the basic noob choices: carrots, corn, lettuce, peas and green beans...

I wonder if Alton Brown has a 'food for dummies' series.

Can't help you at all mate.  All my meals are a piece of meat with basic green beans and broccoli cooked in the microwave.  I HATE cooking so I eat basic as fuck.  I don't have a clue on how to prepare a radish lol.

The great thing about a radish is you don't need to prepare them.  Just buy them and eat them raw, like carrots.  But I'm like you, when my wife met me 18 years ago, my cupboards and freezer with nothing but just add water and through in the microwave types of food.  She was insensed by how I ate and started cooking for me, and then I got fat :).
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 29, 2020, 03:17:49 PM
I'm really hoping it's not a permanent change I'll have to make. I've never had heartburn before, just this one time, but 5 days later still having discomfort has me worried. Still, out of curiosity I think I'm gonna grab some radishes after work  :lol

 :lol

Just make sure the ones you buy are FIRM.  A rubbery radish is no good.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 29, 2020, 04:01:55 PM
:lol :lol :lol

You can just pop radishes and eat 'em? I'm so clueless with veggies outside of the basic noob choices: carrots, corn, lettuce, peas and green beans...

I wonder if Alton Brown has a 'food for dummies' series.

Can't help you at all mate.  All my meals are a piece of meat with basic green beans and broccoli cooked in the microwave.  I HATE cooking so I eat basic as fuck.  I don't have a clue on how to prepare a radish lol.

The great thing about a radish is you don't need to prepare them.  Just buy them and eat them raw, like carrots.  But I'm like you, when my wife met me 18 years ago, my cupboards and freezer with nothing but just add water and through in the microwave types of food.  She was insensed by how I ate and started cooking for me, and then I got fat :).

I was with you guys as well until almost a year ago and I started cooking more.  Started with really basic dishes and now I've been exploring more.  It's actually becoming a fun evening activity during all this stay at home stuff.  Cook a meal that's not necessarily basic (and I still make plenty of those meals).   What sucks though is the grocery stores are limiting how much chicken you can buy, I didn't realize and I had enough to last me another two months in my cart before I got in trouble (unknowingly, I must have missed the sign or something).  Chicken is definitely my go to protein and the options of cooking with it are limitless.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 05:21:20 PM
Marc, you and I started going down the exact opposite paths when you started dropping pounds!  :lol I fucking admire the work you've put in and it really shows how lazy I've become the last year or so, so I'm trying to get my head back in the cooking game and figuring out WTF the right choices are.

I just had a radish. I, uh. Hm. Not bad. Curious. Not really like an onion...
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Post by: cramx3 on April 29, 2020, 05:32:43 PM
I'm not sure radish is the solution  :lol I really think it's a mindset of committing to something.  The cooking is more fun than a healthy thing for me right now, most of my dishes like the pizzas and shellception are terrible for me  :lol But there's something about focusing in on actually being active everyday even with all this shit going on.  I keep telling myself every night (even while stuffing my face) that I want to come out of this social distancing thing in the best shape of my life while many people come out in worse. 

Today I hardly worked out, went into work early and stayed later than expected, I did do 8k steps today which is proof of being busy at work and just a 15 minute bike ride afterwards.  Realized after I didn't even eat a single thing the entire day I was so busy.  So I made some chicken cutlets with green beans and sweet potatoes.   Super basic and easy and delicious.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 07:02:28 PM
That's awesome, man. I think I'm going to resume walking outside now that it's finally not freezing over here, and get back to running when I feel better. Really itching for that fresh air.
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Post by: Lethean on April 29, 2020, 09:07:25 PM
I don't know if radishes are the way to go if you have heartburn - but then, I only have anectodal evidence.  My dad loves radishes but eats them sparingly because he says they give him heartburn.

As far as veggies go - some pretty standard ones that you didn't put on your list are broccoli, cauliflower, spinach.  Zucchini and yellow squash too.

For less standard ones, and I'm not an expert and certainly not much of a cook, I like beets.  You can eat the red part - I like to steam them and just eat them that way, no need to add anything.  And you can eat the greens too, just like spinach or something.  (And you can eat the stalks, but I don't always).
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 09:11:39 PM
Ya'll, the radishes and heartburn aren't connected, I was just curious about radishes  :rollin although I would like to eventually incorporate a wider variety of veggies into my diet  :lol

Broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, I eat all those like a fiend, yeah. Asparagus, too. But beets - I'll be honest, I felt like a little kid reading you describe them. "Yuck!'  :) Might have to look into them...

While we're discussing it, are there any vegetables that make any of ya'll sick? Cabbage for me. Every time I've had it throughout my life I get really sick afterwards. Not sure why.
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Post by: Lethean on April 29, 2020, 09:14:55 PM
Oh no - I didn't think you were eating radishes to cure heartburn.  :)  I took it as you were interested in other veggies.  But just wanted to pass along the heartburn thing from my dad in case it's a common thing - if you're having heartburn right now you might not want to eat a bunch of them.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 29, 2020, 09:16:03 PM
Yeah, actually I felt a little discomfort for a while after eating it. Oops. I fixed that with graham crackers. Tonight, they've been my hero. :)
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 12:06:12 AM
Michael, I may have missed it if you mentioned it, but have you changed anything in your diet that could attribute to the heartburn? 
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Post by: The Walrus on April 30, 2020, 05:11:52 AM
Michael, I may have missed it if you mentioned it, but have you changed anything in your diet that could attribute to the heartburn?

Yeah, the 6 liquor shots and beers on an empty stomach Friday night. Been battling heartburn since.
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Post by: Northern Lion on April 30, 2020, 07:19:51 AM
Marc, you and I started going down the exact opposite paths when you started dropping pounds!  :lol I fucking admire the work you've put in and it really shows how lazy I've become the last year or so, so I'm trying to get my head back in the cooking game and figuring out WTF the right choices are.

I just had a radish. I, uh. Hm. Not bad. Curious. Not really like an onion...

Yep not like an onion.  Through all this radish business, I sort of feel like the character "Sam I Am" from Dr. Suess'" Green Eggs and Ham.  Try those radishes, you'll like them with a fox, in a box, with a mouse, in a house, on a train, in a tree, try them try them, you will see!  :lol

After this whole discussion, I went to my wife and asked her if she would buy some radishes next time she goes shopping.
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 02:35:35 PM
Michael, I may have missed it if you mentioned it, but have you changed anything in your diet that could attribute to the heartburn?

Yeah, the 6 liquor shots and beers on an empty stomach Friday night. Been battling heartburn since.

Oh dear lol.  It should pass then mate you would think.  Your stomach is probably still recovering from that.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 30, 2020, 03:18:07 PM
Michael, I may have missed it if you mentioned it, but have you changed anything in your diet that could attribute to the heartburn?

Yeah, the 6 liquor shots and beers on an empty stomach Friday night. Been battling heartburn since.

Oh dear lol.  It should pass then mate you would think.  Your stomach is probably still recovering from that.

That's pretty bad if it's a week of recovery from one night of heavy drinking, but its possible I'd imagine.  15 miles on the bike today, 200 decline sit ups and my abs are already feeling sore  :metal  Almost time for my favorite part of the day, cooking a fun meal.  Going to make some orange chicken with Asian veggies and brown rice.
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Post by: The Walrus on April 30, 2020, 03:54:14 PM
Yeah, up until today it felt like I dropped a god damn nuclear warhead inside my stomach. Today no pain or discomfort. Took some fiber to help the digestion and voila, I feel 99% normal again. I'm gonna take a chance and cook up some chicken breasts tonight to make a nice salad, that should be delicious. Sounds like you're in for a delicious dinner, Marc!
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Post by: cramx3 on April 30, 2020, 04:12:48 PM
Yea, it's my first time so might suck, but we will see.  The girl I've been dating is half thai and has been helping me with learning to cook and also supplying me with lots of asian seasonings / sauces.

Also, glad to see you are finally recovering, must have been one hell of a night  :yarr
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 09:10:32 PM
Orange chicken?  What the hell?
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Post by: Podaar on May 01, 2020, 05:03:26 AM
Orange chicken?  What the hell?

Panda Express has made this a pretty popular dish in The States. It's basically sweet & sour chicken, but with no pineapple and lots of orange juice and orange zest. It's actually quite tasty.

(https://dinnerthendessert.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Panda-Express-Orange-Chicken-8-.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2020, 05:41:49 AM
Sounds......interesting.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 01, 2020, 05:49:33 AM
Huh, I must have gotten into the wrong thread. Anyone know where the exercise thread is?
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Post by: The Walrus on May 01, 2020, 06:31:56 AM
I figured this thread could also be the dietary discussion thread since it ties in with fitness... fitness burger in my mouth :neverusethis:
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 01, 2020, 06:35:21 AM
Give us a list of veg you're curious about and we'll tell you our fave prep method, but personally there is nothing I like more than just chopping *whatever* kinda finely and throwing it in the pan and putting some oyster sauce in at the end. Pre-made frozen veg mixes are also great, they did all the prep for you, you just gotta follow the instructions.
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Post by: Evermind on May 01, 2020, 06:57:47 AM
Give us a list of veg you're curious about and we'll tell you our fave prep method, but personally there is nothing I like more than just chopping *whatever* kinda finely and throwing it in the pan and putting some oyster sauce in at the end. Pre-made frozen veg mixes are also great, they did all the prep for you, you just gotta follow the instructions.

Yeah, this is what I also do now.

I used to get fresh broccoli and green beans and now I can't get them due to the lockdown (the shop is too far away from my home and I would usually hit it after work, can't do it now as I work from home) and I've been buying the frozen ones and while fresh broccoli is way better, there's little to no difference with green beans. Been eating them regularly for the past few weeks.
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Post by: Northern Lion on May 01, 2020, 07:23:49 AM
I'm generally a veggies raw guy.  Cooking vegies generally ruins the texture and taste for me.  The only exceptions i make are peas and corn.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 01, 2020, 07:30:34 AM
Did my month 2 fitness challenge yesterday.  Not a lot of progress or reduction in time (virtually flat), but damn it's a brutal workout):

240 jump squats (half range)
160 spider-man pushups
260 running luges (each lunge = 1)
140 horizontal pullups

Total exericise time was just over 22 mins; total workout was about 36 minutes.

My forearm strength sucks.  I think my back could handle more pullups, but my arms can't.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 01, 2020, 08:32:41 AM
Way to go, Chad!!

Give us a list of veg you're curious about and we'll tell you our fave prep method, but personally there is nothing I like more than just chopping *whatever* kinda finely and throwing it in the pan and putting some oyster sauce in at the end. Pre-made frozen veg mixes are also great, they did all the prep for you, you just gotta follow the instructions.

So all the basic ones that you can buy pre-frozen in mixed or standalone bags I'm familiar with; cauliflower, asparagus, broccoli, peas carrots etc. I guess I'm more interested in trying to make the vegetable game interesting beyond those basic, boring choices. Turnips? Radishes? Beets, as Lethean mentioned? Sweet potatoes I love but I know nothing about preparing them. WTF is a zucchini? Can I use artichokes for anything besides delicious spinach-artichoke dip? Grown Man Seeks Vegetable Advice. Gonna do that good ol' YouTube research now, actually. This is so sad. :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on May 01, 2020, 08:47:11 AM
My forearm strength sucks. 

You can work on that at pornhub.com  :biggrin:

But seriously, this is all relative, you are in much better strength condition than I am so when you say your strength sucks, I have a hard time feeling bad for you.  My strength is what sucks  :lol

Huh, I must have gotten into the wrong thread. Anyone know where the exercise thread is?

I figured this thread could also be the dietary discussion thread since it ties in with fitness... fitness burger in my mouth :neverusethis:

Yup, I think this thread has covered lots of healthy eating as well.  Orange chicken... not so healthy though especially if you fry the chicken.

Pre-made frozen veg mixes are also great, they did all the prep for you, you just gotta follow the instructions.

Yup, I mostly go the frozen veggie route which is what I did last night, an asian veggie medley I bought and it was already lightly seasoned so it was super quick and easy plus tasted good.  Frozen veggies maintain their nutrients better than canned so if you can't go fresh (as a single dude, it's tough to keep up with fresh food without it going bad or constantly going to the store) this is the next best IMO.

Also, here's my dinner:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW8HQxHXQAUB2mk?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Sweet potatoes I love but I know nothing about preparing them.

Simple, just throw it in the over (or microwave).  I've been eating them lately, bake for 40 minutes or so and it just oozes out of the skin and since it's already sweet, I don't feel the need to add anything else to it although butter or brown sugar would make it better.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2020, 01:14:41 AM
I'm generally a veggies raw guy.  Cooking vegies generally ruins the texture and taste for me.  The only exceptions i make are peas and corn.

Hardcore.  I need a bit of heat through them to soften them.  My stomach doesn't like them raw.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2020, 01:15:58 AM
Did my month 2 fitness challenge yesterday.  Not a lot of progress or reduction in time (virtually flat), but damn it's a brutal workout):

240 jump squats (half range)
160 spider-man pushups
260 running luges (each lunge = 1)
140 horizontal pullups

Total exericise time was just over 22 mins; total workout was about 36 minutes.

My forearm strength sucks.  I think my back could handle more pullups, but my arms can't.

That's a high volume workout.  140 pullups, nothing wrong with that mate.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2020, 05:31:36 AM
Did my month 2 fitness challenge yesterday.  Not a lot of progress or reduction in time (virtually flat), but damn it's a brutal workout):

240 jump squats (half range)
160 spider-man pushups
260 running luges (each lunge = 1)
140 horizontal pullups

Total exericise time was just over 22 mins; total workout was about 36 minutes.

My forearm strength sucks.  I think my back could handle more pullups, but my arms can't.

That's a high volume workout.  140 pullups, nothing wrong with that mate.

Horizontal pullups

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ABf9CdVKqo4/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2020, 03:19:13 PM
Oh.....still killer mate.  Well done.
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2020, 10:02:18 PM
Running is still improving.  Did a 4km outdoors in 20:10 on the weekend.  It was a solid run.  My best time for the lap of the outside area I normally go.  Trying to time myself with various distances just so I'm not getting into a routine or getting too comfortable.  The weight is just falling off me though. 
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Post by: Northern Lion on May 04, 2020, 10:13:18 PM
Running is still improving.  Did a 4km outdoors in 20:10 on the weekend.  It was a solid run.  My best time for the lap of the outside area I normally go.  Trying to time myself with various distances just so I'm not getting into a routine or getting too comfortable.  The weight is just falling off me though.

Very awesome to hear man!

Now that things are loosening up a little in my state, I started going running again this past week.  I need to build up doing a mile again, but I still didn't do too bad.  And I've added 15 pushups a day with it.

But my son is doing 40 pushups a day and making his old man look bad  :biggrin:.
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2020, 10:29:43 PM
Running is still improving.  Did a 4km outdoors in 20:10 on the weekend.  It was a solid run.  My best time for the lap of the outside area I normally go.  Trying to time myself with various distances just so I'm not getting into a routine or getting too comfortable.  The weight is just falling off me though.

Very awesome to hear man!

Now that things are loosening up a little in my state, I started going running again this past week.  I need to build up doing a mile again, but I still didn't do too bad.  And I've added 15 pushups a day with it.

But my son is doing 40 pushups a day and making his old man look bad  :biggrin:.

That's awesome that you were able to go straight back into it mate, and that you had the motivation to get right back out there as soon as you could.  A lot of people wouldn't.  It shouldn't take you long to get to the place you were at. 

Pushups are a great exercise too.  Like anything, the more you do them, the easier they become.  Keep doing them mate.
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 06, 2020, 07:34:08 AM
I've been doing well with the at home workouts until yesterday where I pulled or strained a muscle in my chest. I felt it the moment it happened and now depending on how I love my arm I get a deep ache in my chest.
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Post by: Podaar on May 06, 2020, 09:36:58 AM
...depending on how I love my arm I get a deep ache in my chest.

I've had the same problem since I turned thirteen--45 years ago.  :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on May 06, 2020, 11:33:14 AM
 :lol

it looks like I put on a couple pounds from all that good eating at night.  I got to be more conscious of how much I eat, my workouts have still been pretty good overall though.
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Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2020, 06:49:05 AM
I've been doing well with the at home workouts until yesterday where I pulled or strained a muscle in my chest. I felt it the moment it happened and now depending on how I love my arm I get a deep ache in my chest.

Sounds like maybe a rib cartalige injury?  I've done that I think 3 times over the years training.  Takes weeks to heal.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 07, 2020, 07:10:38 AM
Whenever I recover from this illness+withdrawal, I'm going to run like I've never run before. My summer nights and weekends will be out on the track or in the countryside. No more smoke whatsoever means I can get my lungs back. I can't wait...
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2020, 04:40:31 AM
Whenever I recover from this illness+withdrawal, I'm going to run like I've never run before. My summer nights and weekends will be out on the track or in the countryside. No more smoke whatsoever means I can get my lungs back. I can't wait...

 :tup

Kay... Hope you heal quicker than Kade is suggesting. It really sucks when you’re mentally ‘there’ to be consistent and committed and disciplined with a routine, he. Your body say “nuh uh”
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Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2020, 02:29:26 PM
Whenever I recover from this illness+withdrawal, I'm going to run like I've never run before. My summer nights and weekends will be out on the track or in the countryside. No more smoke whatsoever means I can get my lungs back. I can't wait...

 :tup

Kay... Hope you heal quicker than Kade is suggesting. It really sucks when you’re mentally ‘there’ to be consistent and committed and disciplined with a routine, he. Your body say “nuh uh”

Just a stab in the dark but injuries in that area are so annoying because it's hard to work around.  So many other movements and exercises involve it in some way and csuse pain.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2020, 07:17:43 PM
So, I'm gonna try Schecter's triple-threat 'death-by' tomorrow morning

Pullups  - I hope I get to 6 or 7.  It's been a couple of months since I've done any complete pullups, so I don't know what my capacity is going to be.
Pushups - I'm gonna go up by increments of 2.  Goal of 20 maybe?  That would be 110 pushups in 10 minutes.
Squats - I'll go in increments of 4.I figure I can do speed squats at 1/sec, so I'm gonna go for 44... maybe 48.

If I don't post here for a couple days, you know why.
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Post by: SchecterShredder on May 08, 2020, 10:38:36 PM
The squats become brutal by 30. In the 40s you're basically squatting non stop as fast as you can. Make sure you're not doing this in a basement. If you hit 48 you won't be able to get yourself up a staircase.

I look forward to hearing how it goes. It floored me
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2020, 04:20:18 AM
Well, this is a problem - my workout area is indeed in the basement.  :eek

Couple of hours until I hit this.
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2020, 04:45:58 AM
The squats become brutal by 30. In the 40s you're basically squatting non stop as fast as you can. Make sure you're not doing this in a basement. If you hit 48 you won't be able to get yourself up a staircase.

I look forward to hearing how it goes. It floored me

This is where I'd struggle, squats.  Just always been really shit at them.
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 09, 2020, 06:09:47 AM
I've been doing well with the at home workouts until yesterday where I pulled or strained a muscle in my chest. I felt it the moment it happened and now depending on how I love my arm I get a deep ache in my chest.

Sounds like maybe a rib cartalige injury?  I've done that I think 3 times over the years training.  Takes weeks to heal.

I can already tell it's going to be a tough one to heal. I actually felt better yesterday but I got the hiccups and now it's much, much worse.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2020, 08:00:14 AM
Just finished. I was fairly accurate with my targets - made it to 7 Pull-ups; 18 push-ups; 40 squats. Finished in 27 minutes. Bear in mind I did the pushups in increments of 2, and the squats x 4s - so only 9 and 10 rounds respectively. By the 20 mark with squats, my HR was already sustained over 150, and the last round I started at 165. I’m gassed. I can already feel it in my glutes.

I ought to be able to make it upstairs though.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 09, 2020, 09:50:50 AM
Reaper, I hope you feel better soon. That sounds horrible.

I've definitely lost weight over the last couple weeks, especially since going sober. Appetite is fluctuating wildly, I'm ALWAYS hungry but sometimes I can eat ravenously and other times I can't eat much. Drinking water like a camel, and I'm tired aaall day long. I can see my ribs when I raise my arms. Picked up a bunch of cookbooks, going to try my hand at stuffed pasta shells tonight. Chicken, corn, and potatoes if that fails.

Gonna go on a long walk in a few to get some fresh air and wake up.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 09, 2020, 10:34:31 PM
Okay... wow. Tonight was the best I've felt in weeks. Totally clear head and lucid. Cooked a killer dinner, skipped the pasta and went hard on some beef and broccoli and a twice baked potato. Almost 3 hours of walking; 16k steps, although I was going for 18k (300% of the recommended 6k by my Samsung Health app, although I try to get at least 10k every time I go out).

Feels good, man.  :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 09, 2020, 11:14:18 PM
Great job  :tup
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 04:07:16 AM
I've been doing well with the at home workouts until yesterday where I pulled or strained a muscle in my chest. I felt it the moment it happened and now depending on how I love my arm I get a deep ache in my chest.

Sounds like maybe a rib cartalige injury?  I've done that I think 3 times over the years training.  Takes weeks to heal.

I can already tell it's going to be a tough one to heal. I actually felt better yesterday but I got the hiccups and now it's much, much worse.

Definitely sounds like a rib issue potentially mate?  Symptoms of hiccups and especailly coughing causing terrible pain, and then it lingers.  ice the crap out of it mate and unfortunately, time is what is needed.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 04:07:45 AM
Okay... wow. Tonight was the best I've felt in weeks. Totally clear head and lucid. Cooked a killer dinner, skipped the pasta and went hard on some beef and broccoli and a twice baked potato. Almost 3 hours of walking; 16k steps, although I was going for 18k (300% of the recommended 6k by my Samsung Health app, although I try to get at least 10k every time I go out).

Feels good, man.  :tup

Good to hear mate.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 04:09:03 AM
10km run today.  Was a slow time but was going for distance as I knew I wasn't breaking any records, sore as hell before I even started.  Body telling me just to rest a little I think.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 04:09:25 AM
Just finished. I was fairly accurate with my targets - made it to 7 Pull-ups; 18 push-ups; 40 squats. Finished in 27 minutes. Bear in mind I did the pushups in increments of 2, and the squats x 4s - so only 9 and 10 rounds respectively. By the 20 mark with squats, my HR was already sustained over 150, and the last round I started at 165. I’m gassed. I can already feel it in my glutes.

I ought to be able to make it upstairs though.

Good effort Chad!
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Post by: The Walrus on May 13, 2020, 07:30:26 AM
Quitting smoking is weird. I wasn't a cigarette smoker, but a hardcore weed smoker for 8 years, including countless amounts of blunts (tobacco leaf wraps with weed in them). I'm sure that's wreaked havoc on my lungs. Case in point, the last 2 weeks sober, I've had a noticeable increase in shortness of breath. I guess that's just my lungs recovering. Yesterday was pretty bad, but I didn't sleep well the night before so that surely didn't help.

Regardless, still getting out there and doing my 10,000+ steps (although I've set my goal to 15k daily). Trying to recharge my running batteries out at the high school track - run the straight lengths, walk the curves. Going to do this until I can do a full lap, then two laps, then three, and eventually a mile.

I also bought mangoes last night for some reason. I screwed up cutting the first one. I don't think it was ripe. Oops.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 13, 2020, 11:03:09 AM
This is awesome Mike!  Good on ya.  Hope you stick with it, and permanently kick the habit.  Replace it with a new vice - music and exercise!   :metal
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Post by: The Walrus on May 13, 2020, 02:43:07 PM
This is awesome Mike!  Good on ya.  Hope you stick with it, and permanently kick the habit.  Replace it with a new vice - music and exercise!   :metal

That's it exactly. Every day now I plan what I'm going to listen to out on the track since my earbuds now let me listen to 8+ hours in a single sitting. I'm drinking freaking carrot juice now, too. Going to try to accomplish a full lap today, if I can - got a lot of built up energy. Wish me luck.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 13, 2020, 04:29:31 PM
Good luck and keep it up  :tup
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 06:15:38 PM
This is awesome Mike!  Good on ya.  Hope you stick with it, and permanently kick the habit.  Replace it with a new vice - music and exercise!   :metal

That's it exactly. Every day now I plan what I'm going to listen to out on the track since my earbuds now let me listen to 8+ hours in a single sitting. I'm drinking freaking carrot juice now, too. Going to try to accomplish a full lap today, if I can - got a lot of built up energy. Wish me luck.

One step at a time mate and you'll get there.  Definitely make sure you kick the smoking habit for good too mate.  Well done.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 13, 2020, 07:26:11 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys. Way too cocky - I was able to get half a lap at best, but I did more running than any other day yet and still got 10k in despite the cold. Cooked a delicious dinner. Hot shower and bed is calling, going to get back to a book between the two. I've got a real positive outlook on sobriety and I'm looking forward to the summer.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 07:32:49 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys. Way too cocky - I was able to get half a lap at best, but I did more running than any other day yet and still got 10k in despite the cold. Cooked a delicious dinner. Hot shower and bed is calling, going to get back to a book between the two. I've got a real positive outlook on sobriety and I'm looking forward to the summer.

That's the key.  I was a non runner, couldn't even do a couple of hunderd metres to now going semi long distances.  The main thing I had was the determination to get better and made sure everyday I improved just a little bit.  Baby steps.
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2020, 07:33:06 PM
Quitting smoking is weird. I wasn't a cigarette smoker, but a hardcore weed smoker for 8 years

I quit smoking weed cold turkey. I literally haven't had a puff in 19 years.  I smoked daily in college, and when I got out, I was on again off again for many years. At the time I quit, I was getting baked a couple of times a week.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 07:34:12 PM
I'm planning on Sunday to try and break a distance PB with my run.  Lots of stretching and rolling this week so hopefully I can go in feeling fresh.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
Quitting smoking is weird. I wasn't a cigarette smoker, but a hardcore weed smoker for 8 years

I quit smoking weed cold turkey. I literally haven't had a puff in 19 years.  I smoked daily in college, and when I got out, I was on again off again for many years. At the time I quit, I was getting baked a couple of times a week.

I never would have picked you as a pot smoker Tim.
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2020, 07:37:16 PM
I loved getting stoned and listening to music.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 13, 2020, 07:41:33 PM
It really is my absolute favorite thing. I'm gonna miss it..
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2020, 07:43:14 PM
I don't miss it. What I miss is being younger when nothing mattered except partying with some friends and listening to tunes.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 13, 2020, 07:43:58 PM
Hanging with other humans? Not my thing!  :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2020, 07:45:32 PM
Hanging with other humans? Not my thing!  :lol

Probably not theirs either. :P :P :P :P
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 07:53:05 PM
I loved getting stoned and listening to music.

One thing I never did.  I was a massive drinker but never touched anything.  Didn't mind a smoke or a cigar when drinking with friends but that was it.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 07:54:54 PM
I don't miss it. What I miss is being younger when nothing mattered except partying with some friends and listening to tunes.

I started drinking at 14 and at school there was always someone's parents away and we'd just drink all night every weekend.  Not a care in the world, best time of life.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 07:55:31 PM
Hanging with other humans? Not my thing!  :lol

The older I get, the more I feel this way.  It's actually a bit scary.
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Post by: max_security on May 13, 2020, 08:09:46 PM
I don't miss it. What I miss is being younger when nothing mattered except partying with some friends and listening to tunes.

I started drinking at 14 and at school there was always someone's parents away and we'd just drink all night every weekend.  Not a care in the world, best time of life.

Was this anywhere near Bon Scott's road to his pub ?  :metal 
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Post by: SchecterShredder on May 13, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
I'm a daily pot smoker, but i basically don't drink (i had all of 18 alcoholic drinks in 2019). Not afraid to admit it. For me, it's a way better option than drinking. I can still exercise high (case in point i just rode 100km on my bike...while high. Even stopped on my way back home for refresher), and there's no hangovers. No calories either. I realize that doing neither would be more healthy, but everyone should have some vice.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 10:36:10 PM
I'm a daily pot smoker, but i basically don't drink (i had all of 18 alcoholic drinks in 2019). Not afraid to admit it. For me, it's a way better option than drinking. I can still exercise high (case in point i just rode 100km on my bike...while high. Even stopped on my way back home for refresher), and there's no hangovers. No calories either. I realize that doing neither would be more healthy, but everyone should have some vice.

This made me lol pretty hard.
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 10:41:45 PM
I don't drink at all anymore.  I was a binge drinker from 14 to about 22 and then just stopped as around 22 my work started increasing.  The only time I would drink is if me and the misses went to dinner and that obviously hasn't happened for a while.  Would have one drink and be over it.  I have no interest anymore.  Even if I catch up with my old mate when I was drinking, I rarely have a drink, only if it's at dinner.  He's still a chronic drinker so we don't have as much in common anymore.  I've seen alcohol do bad things and he as an example is deteriorating from it IMO and he's only like 38.

I'd hate to say it, but my vice would be a weekend sugar binge.  Kripsy Kreme, Ben and Jerry's, cakes, slices, chocolate you name it.  It's only the last year I've started to train for fitness and to try and look better, but I've been a sugar addict and still train to eat sometimes.  It's not very good, and a definite issue but my activity level means I can't still lose weight and get away with whatever I want.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 14, 2020, 03:15:07 AM
No significant vices for me.  jingle.daughter used to bake sweets a lot, but now it's just on special occasions - birthdays, anniversary, "<something> Day...  Same with drinks... maybe a couple of weeks on average, but I could easily got a month without anything.  Summertime is a tad more frequent with a few beers around the pool, or as I'm mowing the lawn (literally ... that's not a euphemism).

Month/phase 3 of the program I'm on is back with some lifting... first two phases were more HIIT.  Day 1 was incline DB, deadlift, and db curls.  5 x <failure> for the weight that is 10 rep max.  I ended up doing 10 reps every set, so I probably could've upped my weights a little.

Today, it's shoulder press, squats, high pulls.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 14, 2020, 03:58:24 AM
I'm pretty aware of the fact I should really only drink when I already feel great (and when I'm socializing) and wanna get just less inhibited. Alcohol improves my mood so much that I don't wanna get into a spiral of drinking to feel less crappy, because that happens a lot and alcohol shouldn't happen as often. Never tried pot though, I have the feeling I would be the worst stoner on the planet.

Starting to work out today. I just wanna do cardio because I'm terrible at cardio. We'll see about all that other shit when I have access to a gym and feel safe going.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 14, 2020, 05:32:09 AM
I'm a daily pot smoker, but i basically don't drink (i had all of 18 alcoholic drinks in 2019). Not afraid to admit it. For me, it's a way better option than drinking. I can still exercise high (case in point i just rode 100km on my bike...while high. Even stopped on my way back home for refresher), and there's no hangovers. No calories either. I realize that doing neither would be more healthy, but everyone should have some vice.

I ride my bike all the time high, it's great.  Sometimes I feel so much more motivated if I'm slightly baked before a work out, although it's not something I really do as I try to do my workouts before my relax time, but sometimes during my relax time I get the urge to hit the bike or something. 
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 14, 2020, 05:37:49 AM
I got squirelly once in Uni, then decided to go to the gym.  From the time I entered the locker room to change (which felt like it took me 10 minutes to get dressed), then worked out, then showered... felt like the most intense 2hr-ish workout ever.  I was absolutely buzzed - from the dope and the workout.

Turned out I was there 25 minutes.   :lol
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Post by: The Walrus on May 14, 2020, 06:19:54 AM
I used to work out high all the time but now I realize I was only fooling myself when I thought it made me better or more focused
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Post by: The Walrus on May 14, 2020, 07:22:59 PM
MAN! I can't stop eating! 17k steps tonight and I just scarfed down a loaded plate in no time. But not the kind of stoned out eat-a-whole-pizza type eating. Feels good man. Even got my headspace down to earth enough to focus on classical piano practice again. Gonna take tomorrow evening to rest before I try to shatter that 17k on Saturday!!

Gonna buy a quality foam roller very soon and a tennis ball. Really gonna stretch those tight muscles. Gonna hurt so good.

EDIT: Next day now - shortness of breath is noticeably improved, whereas yesterday it was tough (muggy weather didn't help). No idea if it's the pleurisy going away (if it didn't go away a while ago) or complications from quitting smoking that are getting better but either way it's improvement and I'm so happy. I can, most of the time, get a full, satisfying breath of air. Progress  :hat
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 15, 2020, 02:07:26 PM
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Post by: Lethean on May 16, 2020, 12:57:13 AM
Kattelox, that's awesome.  I'm glad you're starting to feel better with the breathing.  Also, mangos are delicious. :)

I had a little workout break through today.  I'm not on the level of anyone here, but it was an improvement for me and I was pretty pleased.

I've been trying to stick to 5 times a week throughout the stay at home situation and so far I've kept to it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2020, 05:19:03 AM
Kattelox, that's awesome.  I'm glad you're starting to feel better with the breathing.  Also, mangos are delicious. :)

I had a little workout break through today.  I'm not on the level of anyone here, but it was an improvement for me and I was pretty pleased.

I've been trying to stick to 5 times a week throughout the stay at home situation and so far I've kept to it.

Good on ya!  Consistency is very important.  Make it a habit.   :tup
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 16, 2020, 05:57:03 AM
Thanks guys, it's slowly gotten better. I'll probably give it another week before slowly trying to ease back into things.
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Post by: The Walrus on May 16, 2020, 04:32:06 PM
Best wishes, Reaper!!

20k steps today. Still not sure when this shortness of breath will let up but it seems to be better; after 3 hours of walking though I'm feeling it. Early bedtime tonight, taking a rest tomorrow.

My dreams have been absolutely bonkers this week, too. They weren't lying...
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 04:15:34 AM
13km run yesterday (8 miles).  Time was 1 hour 19 minutes and 8 seconds.  6 minutes a km, pretty slow but still alright since I was pacing for a bigger run.  I don't know how people run marathons, jeez.

Hmmm....wanted a distance PB but only did 12km today.  The time was 1 hour 9 minutes and 40 seconds so based on this, I would have smashed this time if I did another km.  I actually forgot I did a 13km until I went back and searched for this post.  My left leg has been getting crazy tightness which has been impossible to release which flared up about 5km into my run which really didn't help today.  Oh well, next week I will try again.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 05:09:46 AM
Thanks guys, it's slowly gotten better. I'll probably give it another week before slowly trying to ease back into things.

That's good to hear mate.  Kind of ironic, I did something similar on Thursday.  It's around my lat so dunno if I've done rib damage or maybe torn part of ny lat.  Felt it flaring up when swimming but kept training.  I was trying to just stretch it out when I felt a rip.  It was like tearing a bed sheet.  Can't lift ny arm well or lift anything.  Coughing and sneezing hurst like a mofi too.

Oh well, that's what I get for being stubborn.  No pull ups for me this week.  Running is the main course I think.  I thought a couple of days might be enough but it's not.  Never had a tearing feeling like that before.

That actually probably made my run harder too.  Felt it when running but was manageable.
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 17, 2020, 05:32:34 AM
Damn wolf, I shuddering reading "tearing a bed sheet" Take it easy and get better soon. Probably try and rest more than you think you need so you don't cause more damage.

Best wishes, Reaper!!

20k steps today. Still not sure when this shortness of breath will let up but it seems to be better; after 3 hours of walking though I'm feeling it. Early bedtime tonight, taking a rest tomorrow.

My dreams have been absolutely bonkers this week, too. They weren't lying...

I'm sorry if I missed it, are you having crazy dreams from going sober?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 05:42:14 AM
Yeah my body is just telling, or yelling at me to slow down.  I cringe everytime I think about that ripping sensation I felt.  I'll be sweet cheers mate.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: ReaperKK on May 17, 2020, 05:44:08 AM
It's strange to think the worst injuries I've ever had were from doing the most mundane thing. Recently it was from pushups but I remember a few years back I went to grab my coffee from my end table and heard a pop in my lower back and I was pretty much out for 2 days straight. This was at the time when I was training heavy and hitting the gym almost daily.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2020, 05:49:17 AM
It's strange to think the worst injuries I've ever had were from doing the most mundane thing. Recently it was from pushups but I remember a few years back I went to grab my coffee from my end table and heard a pop in my lower back and I was pretty much out for 2 days straight. This was at the time when I was training heavy and hitting the gym almost daily.

When I threw my back out 6 years ago, I was reaching in to the trunk of my van to pull out a cardboard sign.  I was completely fucked for a couple of weeks, and didn't get back to normal for almost 2 months.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on May 17, 2020, 06:48:54 AM
Yeah Reaper. My dreams are the most intense they've been in years. Like, they're not quite lucid dreams, but I do feel like they're 100% real. Last night for example I pissed off Luke Hemsworth so bad that he punched two of my teeth out and I woke up hours later found by my parents, and then in Poltergeist fashion my gums and lips started falling off in pieces. Woke up freaking out feeling my teeth to make sure they're still there :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: ReaperKK on May 17, 2020, 07:38:55 AM
:lol :lol thats hilarious
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 06:54:48 PM
It's strange to think the worst injuries I've ever had were from doing the most mundane thing. Recently it was from pushups but I remember a few years back I went to grab my coffee from my end table and heard a pop in my lower back and I was pretty much out for 2 days straight. This was at the time when I was training heavy and hitting the gym almost daily.

It's strange to think the worst injuries I've ever had were from doing the most mundane thing. Recently it was from pushups but I remember a few years back I went to grab my coffee from my end table and heard a pop in my lower back and I was pretty much out for 2 days straight. This was at the time when I was training heavy and hitting the gym almost daily.

When I threw my back out 6 years ago, I was reaching in to the trunk of my van to pull out a cardboard sign.  I was completely fucked for a couple of weeks, and didn't get back to normal for almost 2 months.

Yeah, it always seems the way.  I mean you have aches and pains all the time from training but just doing a simple thing like trying to stretch my side out caused such pain, it's just like WTF?  :lol

I pulled my back out getting out of bed once.  Heard a click and was almost paralyzed.  Laid back down and movement for the next week or so was so limited.  Nuts.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on May 18, 2020, 06:01:00 PM
Managed 3/4 a full lap today, breathing is back to normal. YES!! Going for a full lap tomorrow if I can manage.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2020, 06:58:21 PM
Very good mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: Lethean on May 19, 2020, 10:30:38 PM
Kattelox, that's awesome.  I'm glad you're starting to feel better with the breathing.  Also, mangos are delicious. :)

I had a little workout break through today.  I'm not on the level of anyone here, but it was an improvement for me and I was pretty pleased.

I've been trying to stick to 5 times a week throughout the stay at home situation and so far I've kept to it.

Good on ya!  Consistency is very important.  Make it a habit.   :tup

That's definitely the key.  I usually do well in the spring and summer.  The pattern over the last few years is that I get sick after ProgPower, stop working out, and don't really pick it back up when I get better.  I suppose that won't be an issue if it gets cancelled this year. :P

But other things always seem to come up in the fall (or a normal fall) and I should try harder to stay on top of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on May 20, 2020, 05:38:40 AM
The funny thing is I had no problem lifting weights and kicking my own ass all these years, but it's only now that I'm getting into running for real and putting the weights on the back burner. Might just cancel my gym membership again because the fresh air is really invigorating. Consistency is definitely key

EDIT: Something I didn't even think about... it's allergy season, at least here it is. My allergies tend to flare up at the end of May, but perhaps they've been bothering me all month. Looking at the pollen count today and that might explain why I feel a little off today. Whoops. Time to break out the benadryl. Next couple weeks are gonna suck (and blow!).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on May 23, 2020, 05:33:09 PM
I forgot how sore running can make your abs..  especially if you're out of shape. Holy schnikes. Taking it easy for a couple days, but the weather's way too nice to not walk. But OW.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2020, 07:59:44 PM
Core, baby...CORE!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: The Walrus on May 23, 2020, 08:46:54 PM
Core, baby...CORE!!!

Time to reintroduce good ol' planks and such to the regiment! Been waking up with sore abs for a week now  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2020, 04:36:30 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 24, 2020, 04:47:10 AM
The past week has been a nice one for me.  The program calls for 4 days of lifting, instead of 5.  It's 3 heavy lift movements + some HIIT.  I swapped the HIIT movement with some steady-state instead on my stationary bike instead (cuz I wanted to watch Into the Electric Castle Live).  Some good sweats.  I also ate a little heavier than normal ... and still dropped 1lb.  Think I'll continue with this cycle for another week, and see how she goes.

The day with deadlifts though... idiot me didn't stretch my hammies at all - no clue what I was thinking.  3rd round in, I felt a very noticeable twang on my left side.  Played it smart, and skipped doing deadlifts.  Fortunately, it was fine the next day, and all seems ok.

Today... lying tricep extensions, bulgarian split squats, and underhand db rows.  5 rounds of 1 set each.  It's supposed to be combined with 2 mins of DB squat/swings.  Yeah, like snot.  That's insane!  Think I'll stick with a 30-min bike ride, as I still have lots of stuff on the DVR to watch.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
The past week has been a nice one for me.  The program calls for 4 days of lifting, instead of 5.  It's 3 heavy lift movements + some HIIT.  I swapped the HIIT movement with some steady-state instead on my stationary bike instead (cuz I wanted to watch Into the Electric Castle Live).  Some good sweats.  I also ate a little heavier than normal ... and still dropped 1lb.  Think I'll continue with this cycle for another week, and see how she goes.

The day with deadlifts though... idiot me didn't stretch my hammies at all - no clue what I was thinking.  3rd round in, I felt a very noticeable twang on my left side.  Played it smart, and skipped doing deadlifts.  Fortunately, it was fine the next day, and all seems ok.

Today... lying tricep extensions, bulgarian split squats, and underhand db rows.  5 rounds of 1 set each.  It's supposed to be combined with 2 mins of DB squat/swings.  Yeah, like snot.  That's insane!  Think I'll stick with a 30-min bike ride, as I still have lots of stuff on the DVR to watch.

Smart.  I could learn a thing or two from you.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 24, 2020, 07:17:13 PM
Niiiiice, guys.

I should probably buy sunscreen. Ol' Brains here decided to go walking today at high noon. Went from looking like a viking to a drunk hobo. Holy sunburns, Batman.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2020, 07:25:14 PM
Niiiiice, guys.

I should probably buy sunscreen. Ol' Brains here decided to go walking today at high noon. Went from looking like a viking to a drunk hobo. Holy sunburns, Batman.  :lol

Living in Queensland Australia, I can tell you that sunscreen is a must.  The sun will kill you going out in the middle of the day in the warm season without sunscreen.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 24, 2020, 08:23:35 PM
Niiiiice, guys.

I should probably buy sunscreen. Ol' Brains here decided to go walking today at high noon. Went from looking like a viking to a drunk hobo. Holy sunburns, Batman.  :lol

Living in Queensland Australia, I can tell you that sunscreen is a must.  The sun will kill you going out in the middle of the day in the warm season without sunscreen.

Oh God that sounds awful haha. Yeah, I think I'll grab some on Tuesday, thankfully I don't even have to leave the house tomorrow.

I'm just stumbling through life one day at a time right now  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2020, 08:26:42 PM
I'm just stumbling through life one day at a time right now  :rollin

I hear ya.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 29, 2020, 01:20:38 PM
May's been quite the month. I've been doing really good at cooking healthy meals for myself most nights of the week, and regularly having fresh fruit and raw veggies. I've been nitpicking my diet and trying to eliminate sausage entirely from breakfast, but man, there's nothing quite like breakfast sausage.

Sodium (mentioned it in the irritating thread) - I went overboard on the beef jerky this past week, and it's sooo good, but I forgot how much sodium is in a piece of jerky, and I was eating a lot of it. Holy hypertension, Batman. So, drastically reducing my sodium intake for a while until my blood pressure comes down. Doc said I'm perfectly healthy at the start of the month, other than slightly high blood pressure, which I've had for a few years. So that's at the forefront of my mind for sure. Drinking tons of water as usual.

Now it's time to kick the last addiction: caffeine, specifically energy drinks. Not only are they bad for my teeth, but the amount of caffeine I'd consume daily probably should've killed me by now. 2-3 energy drinks a day plus a large coffee. Add the occasional soda for a little more caffeine. Maybe a 5 hour energy shot here and there. It's absurd, it's like a drug, and I decided to eliminate it entirely instead of tapering off. I'm on day 3 of no caffeine and all I want to do is sleep, thank god it's Friday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2020, 02:15:50 PM
I'm on day 3 of no caffeine and all I want to do is sleep, thank god it's Friday.

Holy shit.  No big withdrawal symptoms?  I once (by accident) went without coffee for 24 hours, and I had a splitting headache.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on May 29, 2020, 02:58:33 PM
It's absurd, it's like a drug, and I decided to eliminate it entirely instead of tapering off. I'm on day 3 of no caffeine and all I want to do is sleep, thank god it's Friday.

It IS a drug, and I'm surprised you didnt get headaches either, but that's pretty good overall, what you've been doing.

I, on the other hand haven't been feeling 100% lately and slowed down on my workouts a bit this week, definitely put on a couple pounds the last few weeks. Also, I broke my streak of 2 months without eating anything that wasnt home cooked when our vendor rep dropped off mcdonalds breakfast at work thursday because we were doing a major project. I didnt want to, but 6 hours later I was starving and forgot to bring a banana to make with oatmeal so I ate the leftover plate of eggs, sausage, pancakes, biscuit and 2 hash browns  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on May 29, 2020, 03:35:35 PM
Kattelox, I think that's awesome.

I saw this thread bumped a little while ago and did my workout.  I probably would have done it anyway, but might have pushed it off a couple more hours. :)

Cram - a day of McDonald's every so often won't undo everything you've been doing.  It's gotta be ok to let up once in a while, and is probably actually pretty healthy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2020, 03:41:41 PM
I've been hitting some personal bests on some movements lately.  Feeling good, feeling alright, it's Friday night!

Tonight - DB presses; Squats; High pulls.

5 reps to failure for each, with my 10RM weight.  Kinda hard to do the squats when all I have is db's, but I'm pushing myself by supplementing the weight with bands.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 29, 2020, 03:48:13 PM
I get exhausted right around noon, and the headaches kick in around 2. It's almost 5 and I feel like death, so I'm going to bed as soon as I get home. TGIF.

I'd like to be able to just live my life without caffeine for a while. Weed's out, caffeine's next, maybe I'll finally feel like a human again soon. :P
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2020, 03:50:55 PM
I get exhausted right around noon, and the headaches kick in around 2. It's almost 5 and I feel like death, so I'm going to bed as soon as I get home. TGIF.

I'd like to be able to just live my life without caffeine for a while. Weed's out, caffeine's next, maybe I'll finally feel like a human again soon. :P

Not with the format of your roulette you won't!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 29, 2020, 04:08:21 PM
 :lol oh jeeze
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2020, 05:54:07 PM
I get exhausted right around noon, and the headaches kick in around 2. It's almost 5 and I feel like death, so I'm going to bed as soon as I get home. TGIF.

I'd like to be able to just live my life without caffeine for a while. Weed's out, caffeine's next, maybe I'll finally feel like a human again soon. :P

Man, that sounds rough.  Amazing what it does to your body then.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2020, 06:43:47 PM
Just finished working out.  Really happy / impressed with the gains I'm getting on this program.  Just pounded out 5 sets of 10 at 45lbs (with a purple band for the squats) on each of those exercises.  I was only able to do 2 sets @ before failing at 8 and 6 last week on the shoulder exercises.

It seems like every exercise is going up a little every week.  :fistpump:

And this is the "Max Shred" program.  Next month I start "Max Size".
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2020, 06:46:05 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal Chadster
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 29, 2020, 06:50:47 PM
Way to go buddy!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2020, 06:56:06 PM
Thanks boys.  Two more weeks of this program.  It'll be interesting to see what some of the lifts were at week 1 vs the end.  The only disappointing part is that I'm going to max out a few exercises soon because I "only" have the adjustable Bowflex weights that go to 90lbs.  I'm already there for deadlifts, and almost there for standing u/h rows.  Oh well, it's a good problem to have I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2020, 07:02:19 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal Chadster
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on May 30, 2020, 06:42:50 AM
Great work, Chad!!!

I'm jealous to read about weight lifting... I've got a hernia going on so all my exercise is pretty light, walking, golfing, yard work (with no lifting of course). I miss the weights.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on May 30, 2020, 07:00:58 AM
I'm on day 3 of no caffeine and all I want to do is sleep, thank god it's Friday.

Holy shit.  No big withdrawal symptoms?  I once (by accident) went without coffee for 24 hours, and I had a splitting headache.

I remember trying to quit coffee once and the headache I got was one for the record books.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 30, 2020, 09:00:52 PM
Aaaand just under 24k steps today. Weekends rock!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2020, 04:44:16 AM
Went out this morning and did a 21km run. (13 miles)  Half marathon.  Time was 2 hours 1 minue and 53 seconds.  Would be nice to have gotten under 2 hours though.  What a cathartic 2 hours though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2020, 04:45:51 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2020, 04:46:12 AM
Aaaand just under 24k steps today. Weekends rock!

Keep it up mate, you're killing it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on May 31, 2020, 05:28:29 AM
Gyms are reopening on Monday. At the moment you have to make an appointment at the gym I go to; curious to see how this will work
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 31, 2020, 06:50:05 AM
I did a shit-ton of work outside yesterday, including hauling about 1.5 yards of river rock.  Mother of god am I sore... especially my right outer-thigh (IT band I assume).  Mostly right at hip-socket connection.

Still got another 1/2 yard of that shit, as well as 3 yards of crushed stone!   :omg:  Weather is looking pretty decent today, so I'm fairly certain I'm gonna need a wheelchair for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on May 31, 2020, 07:41:01 PM
Went out this morning and did a 21km run. (13 miles)  Half marathon.  Time was 2 hours 1 minue and 53 seconds.  Would be nice to have gotten under 2 hours though.  What a cathartic 2 hours though.

God damn, is that all running? How long can you go before you have to stop and walk? That's crazy!

And thanks, Kade - today I moved my running to the nearby pond, and managed to run the entire bike path in a single go. My Samsung Health app tells me I ran .23 miles, but when I walk the exact same distance, I calculate .3-.35 miles, so I dunno. Either way, that's about one lap at the track, and for some reason it doesn't feel as intimidating out on the bike path as it does on the track. Not sure why, but I feel good. Ran a total of a mile this evening and got my 10k steps in. Fuck yeah.

Chad, how you feeling today?  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 31, 2020, 08:45:24 PM
Achy as shit. Hauled another 30-40 wheel barrels worth today. Still got 2 more yards to go tomorrow night. Not sure I’ll need to do my program routines this week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
Went out this morning and did a 21km run. (13 miles)  Half marathon.  Time was 2 hours 1 minue and 53 seconds.  Would be nice to have gotten under 2 hours though.  What a cathartic 2 hours though.

God damn, is that all running? How long can you go before you have to stop and walk? That's crazy!

And thanks, Kade - today I moved my running to the nearby pond, and managed to run the entire bike path in a single go. My Samsung Health app tells me I ran .23 miles, but when I walk the exact same distance, I calculate .3-.35 miles, so I dunno. Either way, that's about one lap at the track, and for some reason it doesn't feel as intimidating out on the bike path as it does on the track. Not sure why, but I feel good. Ran a total of a mile this evening and got my 10k steps in. Fuck yeah.

Chad, how you feeling today?  :lol

Yeah all running mate, no stops at all.  I'm not that fast but maintained a decent speed.  Googling speed, if you run a half marathon in 2 hours flat, that's 9 minutes and 9 seconds per mile.  Add a couple of seconds for the extra 2 minutes I did it in.  On a treadmill doing say a shorter run (3km-5km) I'd do a mile in about 8 minutes or a little less.  I'm going okay.  Legs are pretty stiff today but not as bad as I thought.  Keen to do another short run today.

Yeah, keep it up mate.  When I started, I couldn't run 200metres without feeling like dying.  Everyday, I just did a little bit more.  I never ever tried to get ahead of myself.  It took a long long time but happy with where I am now and am loving it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Polarbear on May 31, 2020, 11:41:05 PM
Went out this morning and did a 21km run. (13 miles)  Half marathon.  Time was 2 hours 1 minue and 53 seconds.  Would be nice to have gotten under 2 hours though.  What a cathartic 2 hours though.

God damn, is that all running? How long can you go before you have to stop and walk? That's crazy!

And thanks, Kade - today I moved my running to the nearby pond, and managed to run the entire bike path in a single go. My Samsung Health app tells me I ran .23 miles, but when I walk the exact same distance, I calculate .3-.35 miles, so I dunno. Either way, that's about one lap at the track, and for some reason it doesn't feel as intimidating out on the bike path as it does on the track. Not sure why, but I feel good. Ran a total of a mile this evening and got my 10k steps in. Fuck yeah.

Chad, how you feeling today?  :lol

Yeah all running mate, no stops at all.  I'm not that fast but maintained a decent speed.  Googling speed, if you run a half marathon in 2 hours flat, that's 9 minutes and 9 seconds per mile.  Add a couple of seconds for the extra 2 minutes I did it in.  On a treadmill doing say a shorter run (3km-5km) I'd do a mile in about 8 minutes or a little less.  I'm going okay.  Legs are pretty stiff today but not as bad as I thought.  Keen to do another short run today.

Yeah, keep it up mate.  When I started, I couldn't run 200metres without feeling like dying.  Everyday, I just did a little bit more.  I never ever tried to get ahead of myself.  It took a long long time but happy with where I am now and am loving it.

Goddamn that is a good run! :metal

I'm doing a run around my city every summer and that is roughly 35 km. My best time is 4H 40Min. Hoping to get that down to 4 & 1/2 hours this summer. Winters here are so bad that my running hobby takes a hit every year, I hate running on a treadmill. :tdwn
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2020, 11:56:15 PM
Went out this morning and did a 21km run. (13 miles)  Half marathon.  Time was 2 hours 1 minue and 53 seconds.  Would be nice to have gotten under 2 hours though.  What a cathartic 2 hours though.

God damn, is that all running? How long can you go before you have to stop and walk? That's crazy!

And thanks, Kade - today I moved my running to the nearby pond, and managed to run the entire bike path in a single go. My Samsung Health app tells me I ran .23 miles, but when I walk the exact same distance, I calculate .3-.35 miles, so I dunno. Either way, that's about one lap at the track, and for some reason it doesn't feel as intimidating out on the bike path as it does on the track. Not sure why, but I feel good. Ran a total of a mile this evening and got my 10k steps in. Fuck yeah.

Chad, how you feeling today?  :lol

Yeah all running mate, no stops at all.  I'm not that fast but maintained a decent speed.  Googling speed, if you run a half marathon in 2 hours flat, that's 9 minutes and 9 seconds per mile.  Add a couple of seconds for the extra 2 minutes I did it in.  On a treadmill doing say a shorter run (3km-5km) I'd do a mile in about 8 minutes or a little less.  I'm going okay.  Legs are pretty stiff today but not as bad as I thought.  Keen to do another short run today.

Yeah, keep it up mate.  When I started, I couldn't run 200metres without feeling like dying.  Everyday, I just did a little bit more.  I never ever tried to get ahead of myself.  It took a long long time but happy with where I am now and am loving it.

Goddamn that is a good run! :metal

I'm doing a run around my city every summer and that is roughly 35 km. My best time is 4H 40Min. Hoping to get that down to 4 & 1/2 hours this summer. Winters here are so bad that my running hobby takes a hit every year, I hate running on a treadmill. :tdwn

Thanks mate.

35km, with that distance, I'd be tempted to do 6 more for the full marathon haha.  That's a solid enough time.  Not many people could last 35km.

I don't mind the treadmil but it's definitely so much more mentally tough watching that distance creep up.  No way I could have done the run I did yesterday on a treadmill.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 01, 2020, 06:58:26 PM
I envy you big time, Kade. That's freaking awesome. I spent so many years on the treadmills at the gym trying to fool myself into thinking it was just as good if not better than running outside, but now I can see how wrong I was. I can't wait to get my stamina up to the point where I can go for long runs without stopping.

Started taking a multivitamin and a magnesium supplement to help my chest discomfort/anxiety through caffeine withdrawal. They're actually working. I think soon I'll put bodyweight exercises back into the mix. I'm hitting this lifestyle change hard man. Feel like I'm going Joe Rogan on it  :lol I've even returned to reading books now because my diet and the running makes me feel good and not lazy when I'm sitting at home.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2020, 07:20:10 PM
I envy you big time, Kade. That's freaking awesome. I spent so many years on the treadmills at the gym trying to fool myself into thinking it was just as good if not better than running outside, but now I can see how wrong I was. I can't wait to get my stamina up to the point where I can go for long runs without stopping.

Started taking a multivitamin and a magnesium supplement to help my chest discomfort/anxiety through caffeine withdrawal. They're actually working. I think soon I'll put bodyweight exercises back into the mix. I'm hitting this lifestyle change hard man. Feel like I'm going Joe Rogan on it  :lol I've even returned to reading books now because my diet and the running makes me feel good and not lazy when I'm sitting at home.

When you get a sniff of something mate, you find that drive and motivation to keep going and the WANT to get better.  When you look forward to bettering yourself on a goal everyday, it makes it all somewhat easy and enjoyable.

I'm hard on myself, but the last month or so, I can really say I'm proud of how my fitness has come along.  I don't say that often.  It's amazing what a bit of determination and a strong mindset can do.  I started on the treadmill too and am starting to realise now how much better running outside is.  I mean, I did a 5km run last night on the treadmill and while I enjoyed it, it's so much harder and feels so much longer than doing a 5km outside.

Also, I went off multivitamins for a while but I've also brought them back in but in a dissolvable form.  Put them in water and makes for like a fizzy orange drink.  I'm finding them way better than tablets personally.

Keep it up Michael.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 02, 2020, 08:51:41 AM
 :tup :tup

I'm obsessed with running shoes. Back in 2014 or 2015 I started buying the Brooks brand. For years I stuck with the GTS Adrenaline series which have always felt great. In 2018 I picked up a pair of Ghost 11s, black/white/orange and they still pop. I'm looking at buying a new pair today but I can't decide between the Adrenaline 20s and Ghost 12s. Both shoes feel wonderful, I can't feel much of a difference between them, so it's really just down to color choice. Thinking about picking up a nice simple white/black pair. I can't get the orange style I have now because they're all sold out in my size :(

EDIT: Eureka! Bit the bullet on these gorgeous Ghost 12s.

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
Nice looking shoe mate.  I've had Brooks in the past and they have been great.

I'm a Asics Kayano man myself at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 02, 2020, 04:24:55 PM
Nice looking shoe mate.  I've had Brooks in the past and they have been great.

I'm a Asics Kayano man myself at the moment.
Keyano's were my go to back in my running days. Basically the Cadillac of running shoes, if you ask me
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on June 02, 2020, 05:25:45 PM
Nice looking shoe mate.  I've had Brooks in the past and they have been great.

I'm a Asics Kayano man myself at the moment.

I find ASICS to be the most comfortable shoe
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 02, 2020, 06:01:58 PM
I Google imaged those Kayanos. Those are sharp!!

Got my best friend joining me out on the track now too. He used to be a huge smoker but seems like he's given it up recently. Did some running tonight with him. Gonna make him sweat :2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2020, 08:01:04 PM
Nice looking shoe mate.  I've had Brooks in the past and they have been great.

I'm a Asics Kayano man myself at the moment.
Keyano's were my go to back in my running days. Basically the Cadillac of running shoes, if you ask me

Yes.  Expensive but top tier.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 06, 2020, 08:27:48 AM
I've always known you can get sunburn through your clothes but I think this is the first time I've experienced it. There's no mark of irritation on my lower left back, but it feels similar to a sunburn. I thought it was a muscle strain yesterday (overly tight muscles in my hams and elsewhere) but it doesn't feel much like that. Regardless, I just ordered a quality foam roller, and am going to be more liberal with the sunscreen when I go out. New shoes arrived yesterday and they are comfy. But when I went out to run, the track had the sprinklers on. First time I've ever seen them on, even when I was in high school  :lol Gonna be a good day today.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 06, 2020, 07:38:50 PM
There we go. Full mile locked in, 4 laps each without stopping - other than walking a lap between each, mind. So proud of myself. Got me a Ninja blender today and a TON of fruits and vegetables, mostly for smoothies. I wanna stay like this and look great when I see so many friends at progpower next year. I don't like the way I look in most photos from there although iPhones don't make me look as ugly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on June 06, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
For what it's worth, of the many thoughts I had over ProgPower weekend, "man, Katt's been eating too much frozen pizza" was not one of them.

Nonetheless - yay for fruits and vegetables.  I've been trying to eat more myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 06, 2020, 09:54:50 PM
For what it's worth, of the many thoughts I had over ProgPower weekend, "man, Katt's been eating too much frozen pizza" was not one of them.

Nonetheless - yay for fruits and vegetables.  I've been trying to eat more myself.

 :lol :lol Well, not like I was fat or anything, but I didn't reach my fitness/weight goals by that weekend, so I was disappointed, personally. I just broke in the blender and made an awesome smoothie out of a bunch of fruits (and a carrot). Yummy stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2020, 05:07:04 AM
For what it's worth, of the many thoughts I had over ProgPower weekend, "man, Katt's been eating too much frozen pizza" was not one of them.

For what it's worth, you didn't room with him.   :lol

jk man, that's awesome stuff you just posted  :tup.  Looks like we got ourselves a little competition the MJ.  Next year's PP will be 3 months before my 50th, which is my goal time-frame.  Originally the goal was 'to be in the best shape of my life'.  Well, truth be told, I've already achieved that.  So, I have to set some more objective goals.

Didn't do my program at all this week, but I was super active.  Hauled 5 yards of rock and did a bunch of yard-work.  Got another 3 yards of rock delivered yesterday, and got about 1/2 of it laid where it needed to go.  Gotta finish off the rest today.  Back at my routine starting tomorrow.  Weigh-in today was just fine, pretty much flat week-over-week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2020, 05:10:30 AM
There we go. Full mile locked in, 4 laps each without stopping - other than walking a lap between each, mind. So proud of myself. Got me a Ninja blender today and a TON of fruits and vegetables, mostly for smoothies. I wanna stay like this and look great when I see so many friends at progpower next year. I don't like the way I look in most photos from there although iPhones don't make me look as ugly.

Massive achievement mate, really well done.  Keep it going.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2020, 05:18:36 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.

Only a 16km run today.  Did around 28km on the treadmill through the week so after the 21km last Sunday, by today, my legs were sore as hell.  Speaking of new shoes, I need a new pair.  Felt like I was running barefoot.

Nevertheless, my 16km time today was 1 hour 29 minutes and 19 seconds so just shy of 2 minutes faster then last week.  Very happy with that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2020, 05:46:27 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.

Only a 16km run today.  Did around 28km on the treadmill through the week so after the 21km last Sunday, by today, my legs were sore as hell.  Speaking of new shoes, I need a new pair.  Felt like I was running barefoot.

Nevertheless, my 16km time today was 1 hour 29 minutes and 19 seconds so just shy of 2 minutes faster then last week.  Very happy with that.

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 07, 2020, 06:57:09 AM
Game on, Chad. It's on like Donkey Kong.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on June 07, 2020, 11:21:44 AM
For what it's worth, of the many thoughts I had over ProgPower weekend, "man, Katt's been eating too much frozen pizza" was not one of them.

For what it's worth, you didn't room with him.   :lol

jk man, that's awesome stuff you just posted  :tup.  Looks like we got ourselves a little competition the MJ.  Next year's PP will be 3 months before my 50th, which is my goal time-frame.  Originally the goal was 'to be in the best shape of my life'.  Well, truth be told, I've already achieved that.  So, I have to set some more objective goals.

Does this mean you are in for PP 2021? I hope to be in the best shape of my life as well by then, we got bought an extra year to work on that  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2020, 07:46:49 PM
No promises.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 10, 2020, 04:26:32 PM
In just a few days I have become a smoothie makin' machine. Delicious, nutritious, and filling. Usually make a fruit smoothie for lunch and then a veggie-based one for dinner. Now I know what to buy regularly at the store. Unfortunately not much cardio this week. First I got caught up being busy, then there was a storm last night, now I have a friend's cookout to visit. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on June 10, 2020, 05:05:21 PM
In just a few days I have become a smoothie makin' machine. Delicious, nutritious, and filling. Usually make a fruit smoothie for lunch and then a veggie-based one for dinner. Now I know what to buy regularly at the store. Unfortunately not much cardio this week. First I got caught up being busy, then there was a storm last night, now I have a friend's cookout to visit. Oh well.

I really like fruit smoothies.  I havent done them part of my routine at all this time around, but in the past I've used a fruit smoothie to replace lunch after a work out or similar.  I however have never had a veggie smoothie.  The thought really doesn't interest me, but maybe I'm missing something since I haven't actually tried it.  What's your veggie smoothie and do you enjoy it?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 10, 2020, 07:38:07 PM
In just a few days I have become a smoothie makin' machine. Delicious, nutritious, and filling. Usually make a fruit smoothie for lunch and then a veggie-based one for dinner. Now I know what to buy regularly at the store. Unfortunately not much cardio this week. First I got caught up being busy, then there was a storm last night, now I have a friend's cookout to visit. Oh well.

I really like fruit smoothies.  I havent done them part of my routine at all this time around, but in the past I've used a fruit smoothie to replace lunch after a work out or similar.  I however have never had a veggie smoothie.  The thought really doesn't interest me, but maybe I'm missing something since I haven't actually tried it.  What's your veggie smoothie and do you enjoy it?

Well, I'm still trial-and-erroring recipes because I'm just eyeballing what I'm putting in there, so I don't have a go-to yet. But today I tossed in a big handful of spinach, 2 carrots, an avocado, a cup of almond milk, and a drizzle of honey. The other night I replaced the avocado with a large banana (no honey, the banana added enough sweetness on its own). Delicious! I think I'd like to add some ground flax seed next time, though. If I'm really hungry I've found adding some plain Greek yogurt does the trick nicely.

Haven't made one I dislike (yet), but the best thing I've made so far is a simple strawberry-banana-blueberry smoothie with almond milk and a spoonful of Greek yogurt. YUM. The veggie one is trickier because the fruits taste better :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on June 10, 2020, 08:17:40 PM
Combining them is the way to go. :) Like you did when you added the banana.  Adding spinach to the strawberry banana one probably wouldn't change the taste much at all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 10, 2020, 08:26:33 PM
Combining them is the way to go. :) Like you did when you added the banana.  Adding spinach to the strawberry banana one probably wouldn't change the taste much at all.

I thought about that - I think I'm going to do that with most smoothies, the spinach will be a staple. The banana is really good too, but those are the ones I have to watch because they're so sweet. I've also made one with raspberries, and one with a peach and a nectarine. It's a really nice blender so I'm having a lot of fun with it :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2020, 11:13:03 PM
In just a few days I have become a smoothie makin' machine. Delicious, nutritious, and filling. Usually make a fruit smoothie for lunch and then a veggie-based one for dinner. Now I know what to buy regularly at the store. Unfortunately not much cardio this week. First I got caught up being busy, then there was a storm last night, now I have a friend's cookout to visit. Oh well.

I really like fruit smoothies.  I havent done them part of my routine at all this time around, but in the past I've used a fruit smoothie to replace lunch after a work out or similar.  I however have never had a veggie smoothie.  The thought really doesn't interest me, but maybe I'm missing something since I haven't actually tried it.  What's your veggie smoothie and do you enjoy it?

Well, I'm still trial-and-erroring recipes because I'm just eyeballing what I'm putting in there, so I don't have a go-to yet. But today I tossed in a big handful of spinach, 2 carrots, an avocado, a cup of almond milk, and a drizzle of honey. The other night I replaced the avocado with a large banana (no honey, the banana added enough sweetness on its own). Delicious! I think I'd like to add some ground flax seed next time, though. If I'm really hungry I've found adding some plain Greek yogurt does the trick nicely.

Haven't made one I dislike (yet), but the best thing I've made so far is a simple strawberry-banana-blueberry smoothie with almond milk and a spoonful of Greek yogurt. YUM. The veggie one is trickier because the fruits taste better :)

Mate, I would suggest to get onto some protein powders to add to your smoothies.  I drink protein shakes like water and a nice vanilla one or even banana flavoured would work a treat I reckon.  With the more exercise you are doing, you should look at upping your protein intake.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2020, 11:14:30 PM
Did a 4km run last night in new runners.  Holy hell, the difference is unreal.  I've been running in year old shoes and running in a new set of Kayanos makes the old ones feel like I'm running barefoot.  Going to have to stop being so cheap and upgrade them when it's time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 11, 2020, 04:55:45 AM
Gonna try to hit a workout of some sort today.  Hauling rock last week was the only workout I did - and it was plenty sufficient.  I got lazy af and didn't do anything Monday / Tuesday this week, and then yesterday ... well yesterday sucked (for those that didn't see it in the GD chat, my father passed away unexpectedly).  I've fucked off from work until Monday, so I've got the time to do it - jut gotta get my mind focused on it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on June 11, 2020, 05:45:29 AM
I've been walking upwards of 6-7 miles a day lately and using weights during conference calls. I've been going bored out of my mind and taking the dog out three good walks a day. I was wondering about something this morning... From a calorie burning perspective, does it make a difference whether you walk six miles in one shot or or three sessions of two miles a piece? I was trying to compare it to the way an engine consumes fuel, and then quickly realized that's a silly comparison.   
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2020, 06:21:18 AM
From a calorie burning perspective, does it make a difference whether you walk six miles in one shot or or three sessions of two miles a piece? I was trying to compare it to the way an engine consumes fuel, and then quickly realized that's a silly comparison.

If you are doing a gentle leisurely walk for the whole 6-7 miles and your heart rate stays at a consistent level, then no, splitting them up wouldn't make any noticeable difference.  If you did a 6-7 mile walk and halfway through it becomes harder and your heartrate increases then you'd burn a few more cause the longer you go, the harder you would have to work.

At the end of the day, it wouldn't make a huge difference, as long as you do it the miles, that's the main thing.  Do what is most  convenient, but just get it done regardless.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 11, 2020, 06:27:11 AM
In just a few days I have become a smoothie makin' machine. Delicious, nutritious, and filling. Usually make a fruit smoothie for lunch and then a veggie-based one for dinner. Now I know what to buy regularly at the store. Unfortunately not much cardio this week. First I got caught up being busy, then there was a storm last night, now I have a friend's cookout to visit. Oh well.

I really like fruit smoothies.  I havent done them part of my routine at all this time around, but in the past I've used a fruit smoothie to replace lunch after a work out or similar.  I however have never had a veggie smoothie.  The thought really doesn't interest me, but maybe I'm missing something since I haven't actually tried it.  What's your veggie smoothie and do you enjoy it?

Well, I'm still trial-and-erroring recipes because I'm just eyeballing what I'm putting in there, so I don't have a go-to yet. But today I tossed in a big handful of spinach, 2 carrots, an avocado, a cup of almond milk, and a drizzle of honey. The other night I replaced the avocado with a large banana (no honey, the banana added enough sweetness on its own). Delicious! I think I'd like to add some ground flax seed next time, though. If I'm really hungry I've found adding some plain Greek yogurt does the trick nicely.

Haven't made one I dislike (yet), but the best thing I've made so far is a simple strawberry-banana-blueberry smoothie with almond milk and a spoonful of Greek yogurt. YUM. The veggie one is trickier because the fruits taste better :)

Mate, I would suggest to get onto some protein powders to add to your smoothies.  I drink protein shakes like water and a nice vanilla one or even banana flavoured would work a treat I reckon.  With the more exercise you are doing, you should look at upping your protein intake.

Way ahead of you there haha, I've been buying protein powder for about 9 years. Although I only use it occasionally. I prefer getting my protein from actual food and only use it when I'm doing a lot of weight lifting in the gym, since chicken and eggs and tuna are already prominent in my diet. Really trying to stick to clean whole foods for all my nutrients.

Although I might try it in a smoothie but they're already jam packed with food as is  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: H2 on June 13, 2020, 12:48:14 PM
Has anyone tried the running app Zombies, Run? It's an incredibly well-made, immersive running app where you roleplay as a runner for a growing township during the zombie apocalpse. I've been having a blast with it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2020, 04:57:06 AM
Has anyone tried the running app Zombies, Run? It's an incredibly well-made, immersive running app where you roleplay as a runner for a growing township during the zombie apocalpse. I've been having a blast with it.

WTF?!  :lol

To be fair, where I live and when I go out running, the people I'm around it feels like I'm already running in a zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2020, 05:01:14 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.

Only a 16km run today.  Did around 28km on the treadmill through the week so after the 21km last Sunday, by today, my legs were sore as hell.  Speaking of new shoes, I need a new pair.  Felt like I was running barefoot.

Nevertheless, my 16km time today was 1 hour 29 minutes and 19 seconds so just shy of 2 minutes faster then last week.  Very happy with that.

16km time today was 1 hour 28 minutes and 28 seconds.  Not bad.  I've had a big week and have a lot less sleep with work operating again from Saturday morning so solid enough. With my Sunday runs I'm doing around 45km running a week. Eating so much ice cream, chocolate, donuts, Maccas on the weekends and still losing weight.  It's crazy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 14, 2020, 05:13:53 AM
Holding steady on my weekly weigh-in, despite not working out much this week (only twice).  Gonna do some yoga later today, and get back on my program after 2 weeks off.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 16, 2020, 10:15:18 AM
It's official: I'm off desserts (my brother-in-law made giant ice cream sundaes and I could barely eat two spoonfuls even though I was really into the idea of having one after a few weeks with no sugary treats) and on the exercise bike. I ride it on the second to hardest setting, stay for about 30 minutes and keep a decent pace. Perhaps tonight I can try for 45 minutes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on June 16, 2020, 10:33:20 AM
It's official: I'm off desserts (my brother-in-law made giant ice cream sundaes and I could barely eat two spoonfuls even though I was really into the idea of having one after a few weeks with no sugary treats) and on the exercise bike. I ride it on the second to hardest setting, stay for about 30 minutes and keep a decent pace. Perhaps tonight I can try for 45 minutes.

Nice! 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 16, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
Joined a gym yesterday and had my first workout in ages. I was walking around the gym trying to look like I knew what I was doing, which I didn't.  :lol It so funny how there's always the people flexing themself infront of the mirror while working out, being so in love with themself. It's so out of my comfort zone I guess.
Atleast I did something since I was really sore this morning.

Anyway on friday I will meet a trainer that will help me out. I feel pretty good about getting started again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on June 16, 2020, 11:23:32 AM
It so funny how there's always the people flexing themself infront of the mirror while working out, being so in love with themself.

While this may be true in some circumstances, I'm guessing that the majority are checking their technique and form in an effort to maximize the workout while not injuring themselves. Proper form is crucial in weight lifting and most experienced lifters know that. If you don't have a spotter/work out partner, a mirror is truly helpful. That's why, in most gyms, mirrors are only near the free weights.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on June 16, 2020, 11:37:51 AM
Speaking of injuring oneself, I did something over the weekend. My Google self diagnosis is that is probably a rib muscle strain (intercostal muscles).  I don't think it's super serious, because my pain is mild, and I have a pretty low pain tolerance.  But it's definitely noticeable if I cough, sneeze, or move a certain way.  Anyone have experience with this?  I've limited myself to walking for exercise the last couple days, and that doesn't seem to bother me so I hope that means it's not bad for recovery.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 16, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
It so funny how there's always the people flexing themself infront of the mirror while working out, being so in love with themself.

While this may be true in some circumstances, I'm guessing that the majority are checking their technique and form in an effort to maximize the workout while not injuring themselves. Proper form is crucial in weight lifting and most experienced lifters know that. If you don't have a spotter/work out partner, a mirror is truly helpful. That's why, in most gyms, mirrors are only near the free weights.
Yea I know, I can definitely see mirrors being helpful in training. I guess it's easy to feel that when you haven't been in that environment for a long time. I'm pretty sure some people do enjoy flexing themself though and the gym is the perfect place to do that.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on June 16, 2020, 11:44:15 AM
It so funny how there's always the people flexing themself infront of the mirror while working out, being so in love with themself.

While this may be true in some circumstances, I'm guessing that the majority are checking their technique and form in an effort to maximize the workout while not injuring themselves. Proper form is crucial in weight lifting and most experienced lifters know that. If you don't have a spotter/work out partner, a mirror is truly helpful. That's why, in most gyms, mirrors are only near the free weights.
Yea I know, I can definitely see mirrors being helpful in training. I guess it's easy to feel that when you haven't been in that environment for a long time. I'm pretty sure some people do enjoy flexing themself though and the gym is the perfect place to do that.  :)

The difference between the person using the mirror to help adjust their technique vs the person in love with themself is probably one has a phone/camera.  I'm really not a fan of the gym culture and a big reason why I won't give my money to a gym.  I like having my own haven to do my work outs.

Speaking of injuring oneself, I did something over the weekend. My Google self diagnosis is that is probably a rib muscle strain (intercostal muscles).  I don't think it's super serious, because my pain is mild, and I have a pretty low pain tolerance.  But it's definitely noticeable if I cough, sneeze, or move a certain way.  Anyone have experience with this?  I've limited myself to walking for exercise the last couple days, and that doesn't seem to bother me so I hope that means it's not bad for recovery.

Yea, I've had similar before where you can pin point the spot in your chest that hurts when you laugh/cough.  It should go away in a couple days.  I think the first time that happened I was worried I was going to have a heart attack and then realized my heart is on the other side of my chest and I had just done a heavy work out the day before  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 16, 2020, 11:47:31 AM
Yeah, I've had that before, Lethean. Like Marc said it should go away in a couple days. Maybe try alternating heat/ice where it hurts, too, if you can.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on June 16, 2020, 12:05:04 PM
Luckily it's low enough that I didn't think heart, which is always one of the worst things to imagine is wrong with yourself.  Cleveland clinic website says it can take weeks to fully heal but also recommends rest from working out for 48 hours.  It happened on Saturday so it's been that long already.  I guess I'll give it more time with just walking and hope it doesn't really take that long to heal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
Speaking of injuring oneself, I did something over the weekend. My Google self diagnosis is that is probably a rib muscle strain (intercostal muscles).  I don't think it's super serious, because my pain is mild, and I have a pretty low pain tolerance.  But it's definitely noticeable if I cough, sneeze, or move a certain way.  Anyone have experience with this?  I've limited myself to walking for exercise the last couple days, and that doesn't seem to bother me so I hope that means it's not bad for recovery.

Done it 3 times in the past.  For me, it hurt like hell and took quite a few weeks to fully heal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: KevShmev on June 16, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
Joined a gym yesterday and had my first workout in ages. I was walking around the gym trying to look like I knew what I was doing, which I didn't.  :lol It so funny how there's always the people flexing themself infront of the mirror while working out, being so in love with themself. It's so out of my comfort zone I guess.
Atleast I did something since I was really sore this morning.

Anyway on friday I will meet a trainer that will help me out. I feel pretty good about getting started again.

I miss going to the gym. :(

Gold's Gym closed down in our area due to COVID and our memberships were sold to Club Fitness, which I then cancelled.  A big allure of the gym for me is the pool, and I don't think any of the Club Fitness's in our area have pools. And I doubt they would open them up anyway any time soon, regardless.  I don't really care about lifting weights anymore, after lifting 3-5 days a week for 15 years, but I still like to go and do some swimming or a little cardio.  Plus, as American gets unhealthier by the year, it actually gives me a nice feeling to go to the gym and see a lot of people who still care about exercising and trying to look good. :hat
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on June 16, 2020, 08:41:38 PM
Speaking of injuring oneself, I did something over the weekend. My Google self diagnosis is that is probably a rib muscle strain (intercostal muscles).  I don't think it's super serious, because my pain is mild, and I have a pretty low pain tolerance.  But it's definitely noticeable if I cough, sneeze, or move a certain way.  Anyone have experience with this?  I've limited myself to walking for exercise the last couple days, and that doesn't seem to bother me so I hope that means it's not bad for recovery.

Done it 3 times in the past.  For me, it hurt like hell and took quite a few weeks to fully heal.

I'll count myself lucky that it doesn't hurt that bad in my case.  Now the trick is going to not letting myself make excuses once it's time to get back at it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2020, 05:15:24 AM
Speaking of injuring oneself, I did something over the weekend. My Google self diagnosis is that is probably a rib muscle strain (intercostal muscles).  I don't think it's super serious, because my pain is mild, and I have a pretty low pain tolerance.  But it's definitely noticeable if I cough, sneeze, or move a certain way.  Anyone have experience with this?  I've limited myself to walking for exercise the last couple days, and that doesn't seem to bother me so I hope that means it's not bad for recovery.

Done it 3 times in the past.  For me, it hurt like hell and took quite a few weeks to fully heal.

I'll count myself lucky that it doesn't hurt that bad in my case.  Now the trick is going to not letting myself make excuses once it's time to get back at it.

It's annoying but just work around it.  Easy enough to do if it's not that bad.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Northern Lion on June 19, 2020, 11:18:25 AM
After I had been jogging a mile a day for a while, my knees started to not like it very much.  (not surpising considering I'm such a big guy)  I was really hoping that wouldn't happen.  I had to stop because of this but still want to keep exercising.

I was thinking of getting an excercise bike.  Do any of you have any recomendations?

Also, I've been eating a lot more salads lately and I'm loving them!  I never used to like salads very much but I sure do like them now.  I need to ask my wife to stop making so much pasta though, that certainly isn't helping.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
I recommend a really thorough stretching and rolling session mate, do it frequently too.  Could simply be your quads or something are tight.

Salads are great.  Don't go near the pasta salads though and watch your dressings.  Go for a balsamic vinegar type over any ranch or cream based dressings.  You would be astounded by the calorie content of those.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2020, 05:29:29 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.

Only a 16km run today.  Did around 28km on the treadmill through the week so after the 21km last Sunday, by today, my legs were sore as hell.  Speaking of new shoes, I need a new pair.  Felt like I was running barefoot.

Nevertheless, my 16km time today was 1 hour 29 minutes and 19 seconds so just shy of 2 minutes faster then last week.  Very happy with that.

16km time today was 1 hour 28 minutes and 28 seconds.  Not bad.  I've had a big week and have a lot less sleep with work operating again from Saturday morning so solid enough. With my Sunday runs I'm doing around 45km running a week. Eating so much ice cream, chocolate, donuts, Maccas on the weekends and still losing weight.  It's crazy.

Another 16km run this morning with a time of 1 hour 24 minutes and 54 seconds.  Demolished last weeks time by 3 and a half minutes.  Works out about 8 and a half minutes a mile which is slow but that's about 5 minutes 20 seconds per km which is definitely on the up, especially for that distance.

Been getting up at 5:30am and doing 6km road runs in the morning around the block before work.  Been brutal but the road running obviously much more beneficial than the treadmill.  Been able to lift in the gym every week day too with short quick 45 minute sessions. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on June 21, 2020, 05:53:08 AM
Impressive Kade  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2020, 11:04:52 AM
Impressive Kade  :tup

Definitely.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 21, 2020, 12:28:32 PM
Kickass, Kade!

Didn't get any cardio in this past week for one reason or another; tried yesterday but heavy rains kicked in. Hoping it isn't raining in a couple hours so I can get something in today.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2020, 04:11:55 PM
I'm addicted I think.  About to go to work and annoyed I didn't get up this morning but didn't plan on running as my legs are definitely feeling it this morning.  Will smash out a quick couple of km this arvo in the gym.

Did 41km all up last week.  Wanna aim for 50km this week.....somehow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on June 21, 2020, 05:38:30 PM
Kade Gump  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2020, 07:30:14 PM
Kade Gump  :metal

lol.  I'll take that as a compliant.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on June 22, 2020, 05:12:12 AM
Kade Gump  :metal

lol.  I'll take that as a compliant.


:lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2020, 06:00:32 AM
Coming up on the final week of my 90-day 'max shred' program (which due to a handful of reasons has been more like 120 days  :lol).  I'd hardly say that I'm shredded, but do definitely see improvements on the weights I'm moving around, but more importantly, in the mirror.  With the weather getting better - holy mother of god has it been hot here lately (though, not Australia-summer hot ... 32C + lately), I'm gonna try and do some more HIIT outside to get a quality sweat going.  Come the fall and cooler weather, I'm gonna tackle the 'max-size' program, which is a lot of German volume training.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2020, 03:19:21 PM
German volume training? Lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 22, 2020, 03:22:06 PM
He's consuming a lot of bratwurst, dontcha know :heybaby:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 22, 2020, 03:52:50 PM
German volume training? Lol

Lots and lots and lots of sets. I did some of this way back in high school. I did one of Arnie's plans. Some exercises were 10 sets at 3-4reps each, and always to failure (i.e. heaviest possible weight i could lift for those 3 reps)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2020, 04:23:29 PM
German volume training? Lol

Lots and lots and lots of sets. I did some of this way back in high school. I did one of Arnie's plans. Some exercises were 10 sets at 3-4reps each, and always to failure (i.e. heaviest possible weight i could lift for those 3 reps)

Ah ok.  I gathered what it was, just made me laugh.

I like the lower rep range.  I always mainly lift in the 4-5 rep range with heavier weights.  Always found it much more beneficial ghan the 8-10 rep stuff.  For me anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 22, 2020, 04:38:05 PM
I did a program recently that flipped every 2 weeks between low rep and high rep. It was actually pretty damn effective
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2020, 07:54:54 PM
I did a program recently that flipped every 2 weeks between low rep and high rep. It was actually pretty damn effective

I guess the constant changing it up would have kept your body constantly guessing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2020, 06:10:25 AM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.

Only a 16km run today.  Did around 28km on the treadmill through the week so after the 21km last Sunday, by today, my legs were sore as hell.  Speaking of new shoes, I need a new pair.  Felt like I was running barefoot.

Nevertheless, my 16km time today was 1 hour 29 minutes and 19 seconds so just shy of 2 minutes faster then last week.  Very happy with that.

16km time today was 1 hour 28 minutes and 28 seconds.  Not bad.  I've had a big week and have a lot less sleep with work operating again from Saturday morning so solid enough. With my Sunday runs I'm doing around 45km running a week. Eating so much ice cream, chocolate, donuts, Maccas on the weekends and still losing weight.  It's crazy.

Another 16km run this morning with a time of 1 hour 24 minutes and 54 seconds.  Demolished last weeks time by 3 and a half minutes.  Works out about 8 and a half minutes a mile which is slow but that's about 5 minutes 20 seconds per km which is definitely on the up, especially for that distance.

Been getting up at 5:30am and doing 6km road runs in the morning around the block before work.  Been brutal but the road running obviously much more beneficial than the treadmill.  Been able to lift in the gym every week day too with short quick 45 minute sessions.

Completed 50km running this week.  Brutal.

16km run again today.  A time of 1 hour 24 minutes and 11 seconds.  43 seconds better than last week.  I think I'm reaching my limit though.  Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on June 28, 2020, 06:12:10 AM
Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.

Have a 'roo chase you. Those things are terrifying.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2020, 06:23:21 AM
Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.

Have a 'roo chase you. Those things are terrifying.

Terrifying?  :lol

To be fair they box like Mike Tyson.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2020, 11:36:35 AM
I think I'm reaching my limit though.  Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.

I applaud your effort very much, but if you feel you've reached your physical limit, maybe try not to go so hard before the next step is hurting your knees or something.  That's why I won't run because I'm so damn worried about my shitty knees and ankles.

I think the last three days were my best three consecutive days of work outs.  Started making some fruit smoothies for lunch too this week.  I have these frozen fruits I bought awhile ago and finally decided to eat them, pretty tasty and basic smoothie.  I've got to go hit the bike and weights now....
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 28, 2020, 11:41:53 AM
Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.

Have a 'roo chase you. Those things are terrifying.

Terrifying?  :lol

To be fair they box like Mike Tyson.

Kangaroos are kind of terrifying if you think about it. IIRC they can move over 30 miles an hour, jump 6 feet high, clear more than 20 feet in a single jump, I bet their feet can deliver a kick that would separate your torso from the rest of your body, they can box, AND they're jacked. And they can do that while carrying a baby in their pouch like a fucking new age crossfit mom with a papoose or some shit.

Australia is like Jumanji, I don't know how you people live there. All the deadliest shit is there, AND they're big. Looking at those clock spiders for example  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2020, 12:20:41 PM
They aren't just big either, those super tiny jellyfish that can kill you too  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on June 28, 2020, 01:14:19 PM
I didn’t know much about Kangaroos until they were mentioned in this thread and I then YouTubed them. Man, they are mean sons of bitches. Kade, you ever come face to face with one of those bastards? (You know, everyone’s either a bastard or a son of a bitch)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on June 28, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
And to keep it fitness related, kangaroos are ripped and basically professional boxers
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 28, 2020, 04:23:00 PM
Nice double workout today. Did some lifting this morning, and some HIIT (one of the Insanity routines) on the pool deck. Had a viscous sweat going, but I couldn’t go full out, I ended up with a ‘stich’ pretty much right from the warmup.  :angry:  Wasn’t fun.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on June 28, 2020, 04:59:49 PM
Y'all and your viscous sweats. That is gross.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2020, 07:17:04 PM
I think I'm reaching my limit though.  Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.

I applaud your effort very much, but if you feel you've reached your physical limit, maybe try not to go so hard before the next step is hurting your knees or something.  That's why I won't run because I'm so damn worried about my shitty knees and ankles.

I think the last three days were my best three consecutive days of work outs.  Started making some fruit smoothies for lunch too this week.  I have these frozen fruits I bought awhile ago and finally decided to eat them, pretty tasty and basic smoothie.  I've got to go hit the bike and weights now....

Thanks mate for the advice.  Yeah, I get more ankle pain then knee pain.  I'm just trying to keep the stretching and rolling at a high frequency to keep managing.  I'm wary of knees.  If anything starts to feel weird there I'll re a Lily pay close attention to it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2020, 07:20:00 PM
I didn’t know much about Kangaroos until they were mentioned in this thread and I then YouTubed them. Man, they are mean sons of bitches. Kade, you ever come face to face with one of those bastards? (You know, everyone’s either a bastard or a son of a bitch)

They are everywhere and if there is any space of bushland around, you can bet they are around.  Have seen them in the back and front yards many times.  They don't attack you at all.  Even though people think they do, any signs of humans they just jump away.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on July 01, 2020, 06:28:44 AM
Been having a frustrating couple of days. On the 27th, I started upping my daily walking from 5 miles to 7 miles, with bits of jogging sprinkled in. The weightloss hit a brick wall as soon as I made the change  :justjen I haven't broken 1600 calories in a day in weeks.

(https://i.imgur.com/nRHmtiil.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 01, 2020, 08:21:55 AM
patience and keep at it
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2020, 10:35:01 PM
Been having a frustrating couple of days. On the 27th, I started upping my daily walking from 5 miles to 7 miles, with bits of jogging sprinkled in. The weightloss hit a brick wall as soon as I made the change  :justjen I haven't broken 1600 calories in a day in weeks.

(https://i.imgur.com/nRHmtiil.png)

You positive you've stuck to the same caloric intake?  Not having a go mate, just an honest question.

Looking at that chart though you haven't really hit a brick wall that much as you are at your lowest weight.  Daily fluctuations are normal.  Give it a week and reasses.  You can't lose at a high speed long term.  Sometimes your body holds for days then one day you'll have a sudden significant drop. 

Don't stress on the daily numbers, you'll go nuts.  Theres too many variables and even things like toilet frequency can affect your numbers.  Although the 400g increase that one day is interesting.  Anything different the day before that may warrant that?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2020, 10:42:05 PM
Also, 1600 seems very low.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2020, 05:51:15 AM
For starters, it's not 400g, it's 0.4lbs.

Secondly, 7lbs weight-loss in 1 week is damned fuckin good.  General rule of thumb is 2% of body weight is the ideal target for consistent gains (or losses depending on your view).

I'll take Kade's comment a step further - don't even stress over the weelkly numbers.  I only weigh-in once/week (usually on Sundays - first thing in the morning, before consuming anything, and after I drop the kids off at the pool  ;) ... do the same thing consistently, so that a glass of water or cup of coffee don't skew things).  I've had weeks where I was 100% clean in my eating, worked out like a fiend, and ended up gaining weight... and then weeks where I slacked on my workout, and was sloppy with my nutrition (booze, sweets, fatty foods - or all three!), and LOST weight.

The body is a fickle mistress.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2020, 03:46:26 PM
For starters, it's not 400g, it's 0.4lbs.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/110MZt5qYxdrH2/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 02, 2020, 04:02:36 PM
I find scale weight is only really useful over a longer period for trending purposes. I do weigh myself, and log it, every day, but I don't much care about the number on the scale any particular morning. I just need it for the data point. And like Jingle, I weigh myself in the morning after going to the bathroom, so the only thing in my body is a cup or less of coffee.My weight will easily fluctuate 5lbs in a single week. Hell, yesterday's log was 196.6lbs and this morning was 199.2. I know for sure I didn't overeat 12,000 calories, so that weight gain is just how my body decided to process the different types of food I ate the day before.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 02, 2020, 04:03:29 PM
I find scale weight is only really useful over a longer period for trending purposes. I do weigh myself, and log it, every day, but I don't much care about the number on the scale any particular morning. I just need it for the data point. And like Jingle, I weigh myself in the morning after going to the bathroom, so the only thing in my body is a cup or less of coffee.My weight will easily fluctuate 5lbs in a single week. Hell, yesterday's log was 196.6lbs and this morning was 199.2. I know for sure I didn't overeat 12,000 calories, so that weight gain is just how my body decided to process the different types of food I ate the day before.

Totally misinterpreted what log you were referring to until I re-read this post slowly.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 02, 2020, 04:14:52 PM
Well... Some days it does feel like both logs have the same weight lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 03, 2020, 05:23:30 PM
Well I'm sure I'm not the only person who ever, out of curiosity, weighed themselves both before and after dropping a log  :lol #forscience
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
Well I'm sure I'm not the only person who ever, out of curiosity, weighed themselves both before and after dropping a log  :lol #forscience

Only time I remember doing that was at a superbowl party back in the late 90s.  We all put money into a pot, and whoever could piss the most, got the pot.  One guy weighed in at 236.5, and finished at 231 right after his leak.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 03, 2020, 10:26:16 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2020, 04:50:57 PM
Well I'm sure I'm not the only person who ever, out of curiosity, weighed themselves both before and after dropping a log  :lol #forscience

I had done it a bit when I was borderline eating disorder.  One of the points I knew something was wrong lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now with mental fitness!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2020, 08:15:33 PM
Did a 16km run today. (9.94 miles)  Time was 1 hour, 32 minutes and 33 seconds.  Slow but my 12km time was 1:08:32, so the 12km was better than last week, so my pace is slowly picking up over long distances.  Was amazing.  I'm becoming absolutely addicted to running.

I timed my times at 8km, 12km and 16km.  My 16km time today was 1 hour 31 minutes and 12 seconds, so I beat that time at least.

Only a 16km run today.  Did around 28km on the treadmill through the week so after the 21km last Sunday, by today, my legs were sore as hell.  Speaking of new shoes, I need a new pair.  Felt like I was running barefoot.

Nevertheless, my 16km time today was 1 hour 29 minutes and 19 seconds so just shy of 2 minutes faster then last week.  Very happy with that.

16km time today was 1 hour 28 minutes and 28 seconds.  Not bad.  I've had a big week and have a lot less sleep with work operating again from Saturday morning so solid enough. With my Sunday runs I'm doing around 45km running a week. Eating so much ice cream, chocolate, donuts, Maccas on the weekends and still losing weight.  It's crazy.

Another 16km run this morning with a time of 1 hour 24 minutes and 54 seconds.  Demolished last weeks time by 3 and a half minutes.  Works out about 8 and a half minutes a mile which is slow but that's about 5 minutes 20 seconds per km which is definitely on the up, especially for that distance.

Been getting up at 5:30am and doing 6km road runs in the morning around the block before work.  Been brutal but the road running obviously much more beneficial than the treadmill.  Been able to lift in the gym every week day too with short quick 45 minute sessions.

Completed 50km running this week.  Brutal.

16km run again today.  A time of 1 hour 24 minutes and 11 seconds.  43 seconds better than last week.  I think I'm reaching my limit though.  Not sure what the next step is to get faster again.

Hmmm....my time yesterday was 1 hour, 24 minutes and 29 seconds, so 18 seconds slower.  However my split time at 12km was 20 seconds faster than last week.  Just really didn't have the legs on the last 4km it seems.  45km for the week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 09:05:04 AM
It’s 11am, 29C already, and I just did a 40 minute Insanity routine on my deck. That was one helluva sweat inducing, punishing workout.  Thing I’ll dive into the pool to cool down.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 09:55:16 AM
Chad and Kade are becoming the most fit men on planet earth  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 08, 2020, 10:02:07 AM
Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 10:09:39 AM
Well I can let Chad and Kade give more details if they want.  But knowing them for years on here I know both are and have been making vast improvements and should be role models for exercise and fitness.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 08, 2020, 10:27:31 AM
Chad and Kade are becoming the most fit men on planet earth  :tup

True, these guys are busting ass.  Good motivators. 

Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.

I don't think this is unusual.  Just keep at it, you've been doing a good job too so you'll get back into the mindset soon enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 08, 2020, 10:45:05 AM
It’s 11am, 29C already, and I just did a 40 minute Insanity routine on my deck. That was one helluva sweat inducing, punishing workout.  Thing I’ll dive into the pool to cool down.

In Edmonton, it's been between 15 and 20c most days, and it's rained part of every day for the last 50 days. The weather is seriously depressing given that my favourite exercise is riding bikes. I've still been able to do road riding when it's not torrential, but I haven't touched my mountain bike in a month.

I would gladly welcome some of the heat you guys are seeing in Ontario!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 01:15:41 PM
And I’d gladly swap for some of the rain. It hasn’t dropped anything in almost a month other than a couple of pop up 10-20 minute storms. Rain is in the forecast for the weekend tho

Thanks for the kind words guys. I’m definitely in the best shape of my life, though that’s not exactly saying much, since I was a fat fuck Until about 2006.  I lost a bunch of weight for many years, but put a good chunk of it back on by 2015. Still got a ways to go to get where I want to be in my mind, but I am seeing the changes - which ain’t all that easy at 48 years old!  Last weigh in was 180.4lbs; 14.3%BF.

Still gotta lose the moobs tho.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:38:40 PM
Chad & Kade destroy the moobs 2020  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2020, 03:45:42 PM
Thanks Jason too for the kind words.  Like Chad I was just overweight for my whole life until I was about 27.  I've grown to love and become obsessed with fitness.  I've kept at it since the start though.  I've had my challenges and faced eating disorders and almost on the verge of devdeverloping anorexia at one stage but I got past that. 

With gyms fully back open lately I've just been able to hit the weights more and concentrate on that daily.  Still adding a 5km run at the end of each workout though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2020, 03:48:23 PM
Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.

Mate, it's all about making it part of your routine.  It has to become a habit and just part of your schedule.  It seems like you are starting to beat yourself up for not doing your workouts, that's good.  It means your thinking is starting to change.  Eventually that guilt will force you to start making it part of your routine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 08, 2020, 03:53:30 PM
Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.

Mate, it's all about making it part of your routine.  It has to become a habit and just part of your schedule.  It seems like you are starting to beat yourself up for not doing your workouts, that's good.  It means your thinking is starting to change.  Eventually that guilt will force you to start making it part of your routine.

Yeah, that's how I got so disciplined with weightlifting and cardio at the gym some years ago. Eventually going every night was second nature. But running fucking suuuuucks, dude, my mind boggles at the level you're at. At least, it sucks right now for me. This shit hurts!!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 04:01:57 PM
Thanks Jason too for the kind words.  Like Chad I was just overweight for my whole life until I was about 27.  I've grown to love and become obsessed with fitness.  I've kept at it since the start though.  I've had my challenges and faced eating disorders and almost on the verge of devdeverloping anorexia at one stage but I got past that. 

With gyms fully back open lately I've just been able to hit the weights more and concentrate on that daily.  Still adding a 5km run at the end of each workout though.

I know believe me.  Kade and Chad  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 04:11:33 PM
According to the last pics I saw of you on FB, you’re built pretty solid yourself, Jay
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 08, 2020, 04:12:31 PM
Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.

Mate, it's all about making it part of your routine.  It has to become a habit and just part of your schedule.  It seems like you are starting to beat yourself up for not doing your workouts, that's good.  It means your thinking is starting to change.  Eventually that guilt will force you to start making it part of your routine.

Yeah, that's how I got so disciplined with weightlifting and cardio at the gym some years ago. Eventually going every night was second nature. But running fucking suuuuucks, dude, my mind boggles at the level you're at. At least, it sucks right now for me. This shit hurts!!  :lol :lol

Is there something else you can do for cardio to replace running?  I'm totally with you, running SUCKS for me.  I absolutely hate it and my body hates it just as much as I do it seems.  Having said that, I have been thinking about doing a bit of it to supplement my biking just to change things up.  Biking in my basement is becoming like second nature but at the same time, is starting to feel a bit boring.  There's not much around me, but I do walk to the liqour store (literally the only store I can easily walk to) and noticed a bunch of babes I've never seen before in my neighborhood last week.  Kind of makes me want to walk around a bit more  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 08, 2020, 04:14:10 PM
Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.

Mate, it's all about making it part of your routine.  It has to become a habit and just part of your schedule.  It seems like you are starting to beat yourself up for not doing your workouts, that's good.  It means your thinking is starting to change.  Eventually that guilt will force you to start making it part of your routine.

Yeah, that's how I got so disciplined with weightlifting and cardio at the gym some years ago. Eventually going every night was second nature. But running fucking suuuuucks, dude, my mind boggles at the level you're at. At least, it sucks right now for me. This shit hurts!!  :lol :lol

Is there something else you can do for cardio to replace running?  I'm totally with you, running SUCKS for me.  I absolutely hate it and my body hates it just as much as I do it seems.  Having said that, I have been thinking about doing a bit of it to supplement my biking just to change things up.  Biking in my basement is becoming like second nature but at the same time, is starting to feel a bit boring.  There's not much around me, but I do walk to the liqour store (literally the only store I can easily walk to) and noticed a bunch of babes I've never seen before in my neighborhood last week.  Kind of makes me want to walk around a bit more  :lol

 :lol I guess I could buy a jump rope. Or get a box and do thousands of step-ups in front of the TV. Or pick up parkour...  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 04:15:14 PM
Marc, you looking for high intensity, or low / steady state?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 04:16:11 PM
According to the last pics I saw of you on FB, you’re built pretty solid yourself, Jay

Toronto  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 08, 2020, 04:17:44 PM
Marc, you looking for high intensity, or low / steady state?

I'm not a high intensity guy unless it comes to a metal concert or playing call of duty.  With regards to running, I am not in any shape to do high intensity since I haven't gone for a job in a while. 

:lol I guess I could buy a jump rope. Or get a box and do thousands of step-ups in front of the TV. Or pick up parkour...  :lol

None of that sounds fun to do for an extended period of time, but maybe mix a little of that in and drop a little of the running?  I don't know, just throwing out ideas.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: JustJen on July 08, 2020, 07:14:49 PM
I average 6-7 miles of walking per day at work. Pretty happy with that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 07:25:24 PM
According to the last pics I saw of you on FB, you’re built pretty solid yourself, Jay

Toronto  :metal :metal :metal

Pics of Jason?

Let's see 'em!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 07:43:26 PM
Tim when you join Facebook in 2050!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 07:45:54 PM
I'll never see 2050.

Let's go, post a pic!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
Ok 2030 lol.....just sign up for crying out loud
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 09:03:31 PM
Ok 2030 lol.....just sign up for crying out loud

Per my sig, you'd have an easier time bring the Internet to the Ahmish.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2020, 11:55:50 PM
Yeah I'll sign up to Facebook one day too lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 12:07:37 AM
Yeah, keep it guys. It's seriously impressive and motivating! Been having a frustrating couple weeks where I haven't been able to get as much cardio in. I keep thinking, "Just stop making excuses and do it," but it's hard to work up that motivation some days when you know you have to come back and still cook dinner and everything else. One day at a time. All set to sweat my ass off tonight though.

Mate, it's all about making it part of your routine.  It has to become a habit and just part of your schedule.  It seems like you are starting to beat yourself up for not doing your workouts, that's good.  It means your thinking is starting to change.  Eventually that guilt will force you to start making it part of your routine.

Yeah, that's how I got so disciplined with weightlifting and cardio at the gym some years ago. Eventually going every night was second nature. But running fucking suuuuucks, dude, my mind boggles at the level you're at. At least, it sucks right now for me. This shit hurts!!  :lol :lol

I didn't like it at the start but I was just determined to get better and fitter.  I just came around to learning to love it.

I am fearing the amount I'm doing though may start to bring my eating disorder issues to light.  Loving the distances but let's me eat what I want yet then cutting back in other areas because of the food choices.  Mainly weekends but not good.  Can be a vicious cycle.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 12:31:58 AM
I don’t know anything about what wolf just said but I do know the following:

George: can I flip on the siren?

Jerry: why are you bothering them?

George: I’m just asking them, all they have to do is say no

Officer: Yeah go ahead

Siren

George: Check it out

Jerry: can I try it?

Officer: yeah go ahead hurry up

Jerry: Scared the hell out of that guy!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 12:38:09 AM
 :lol What the fucking fuck?!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 12:43:09 AM
:lol What the fucking fuck?!

I’m currently watching The Trip episode parts 1&2 c’mon Kade
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 06:31:50 AM
:lol What the fucking fuck?!

I’m currently watching The Trip episode parts 1&2 c’mon Kade

Hey hey now, I know the episodes well, just so random.    :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 06:53:07 AM
Seinfeld mixes with everything well, including exercise lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 09, 2020, 06:58:50 AM
Went surfing for the first time the other day.

Holy crap, what a work out. Great cardio just from general swimming, but then there's the added level of fighting the waves and current. Then paddling to get into position and pushing yourself up to get on the board. Really loved it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:07:58 AM
Seinfeld mixes with everything well, including exercise lol

I can't argue with that one.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:08:34 AM
Went surfing for the first time the other day.

Holy crap, what a work out. Great cardio just from general swimming, but then there's the added level of fighting the waves and current. Then paddling to get into position and pushing yourself up to get on the board. Really loved it.

I could imagine it takes a lot of core strength.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 07:08:58 AM
I’ve always found swimming to be one of the best and hardest exercises to do
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: WilliamMunny on July 09, 2020, 09:16:54 AM
Here's a good one:

Been working my ass off all Spring to get my 40-year old self in the best shape of my life (I typically keep myself in the 10-12% bf range, but two weeks back, I was at 9 and flirting with 8). We had a vacation coming up that I decided to use as a 'goal' for my Spring workouts.

No gym, mind you, so this was all with a square piece of carpet in the basement and two sets of dumbells and many buckets of sweat. No treadmill either - I got very familiar with my neighborhood on my morning runs (it was a brutal cold Spring up here in Cleveland).

So we go to the Outer Banks last week...and I am so psyched. I look good, I feel good, I'm get to go run on the beach ever morning, sit by the pool...the whole nine yards. And so what do I do? I jump into the pool on the first day and break my foot!

How, you ask - by trying to win a dunk contest with my 11-year old!!! (just imagine the Jordan logo and a shallow pool and you get the idea)

Oh man, the pain. I knew the second my foot hit the side of the pool I was screwed. My foot is jacked and the urgicare people want me to go the hospital on the mainland right away. Well, needless to say, I got a second-opinion once I got home and the prognosis is much better - no surgery, just a boot for 6-8 weeks. Either way, I'm done running this Summer (and probably most of the Fall), I ruined my vacation (and was a huge, immobile burden to my wife), and basically spent my first week off in over a year on a sofa with a laptop.

The moral of the story: don't be an idiot like me!!!  When the sign says 'Don't Jump', follow it!

But seriously, I'm glad to see this thread going strong. I check out everyone's progress here pretty routinely, and it's nice to see that the pandemic hasn't stopped our collective fitness goals!

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 09, 2020, 10:02:13 AM
damn dude that is very unfortunate
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 10:08:27 AM
Ouch that sucks
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 09, 2020, 01:06:15 PM
Mother of God. Dammit, we all have our ‘turning 40’ injury story, don’t we?

That blows, Willy. Do the needful, and get healed before pushing yourself. Time for a lot of upper body work, eh?

It’s another scorcher here. Think I’ll do some HIIT by the pool soon.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: WilliamMunny on July 09, 2020, 04:34:21 PM
Mother of God. Dammit, we all have our ‘turning 40’ injury story, don’t we?

That blows, Willy. Do the needful, and get healed before pushing yourself. Time for a lot of upper body work, eh?

It’s another scorcher here. Think I’ll do some HIIT by the pool soon.

Ain't that the truth, my friend.

Right now, I've shifted to weight workouts on my knees...very humbling indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 05:46:35 PM
Wearing the boot all summer is a bummer but at least you don’t need surgery
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 06:45:06 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 09, 2020, 07:24:20 PM
Kade knows all about being hobbled.  I still cringe thinking about you dropping that db on your toe.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 07:34:24 PM
Kade knows all about being hobbled.  I still cringe thinking about you dropping that db on your toe.

Don’t remember that story, but sounds painful
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:52:05 PM
Kade knows all about being hobbled.  I still cringe thinking about you dropping that db on your toe.

Don’t remember that story, but sounds painful

Was in the gym and taking a 20kg (45lbs) plate off the rack while watching the tv. For some reason I didn't have a firm grip or I think I kind of pulled it with momentum and was suppose to catch it but the rack was shorter than what I though.  Obviously I was distracted from the tv. It fell off from waist hight and slammed right across my big toe on my left foot.  Absolutely crushed it like a pancake.  My whole foot went numb and was a shocking sight when I took my shoe off.

Tried to tell myself it was alright.  Got a lift home and tried to sleep it off.  Went to hospital the next day and the look on their face was amazement I didn't go to the ER right away.  The whole toe was destroyed and there was a chance that I was going to lose it.  Had two surgeries all up and had pins it in which stuck out the side of my toe.  Was in a boot for over 2 months.  The bone is fused together and I can't bend it.  The running I'm doing is causing pain now and I think I'm even starting to get some arthritis and it gets quite stiff and painful.  Never been the same since.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 07:53:36 PM
Yikes 😳
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
Yikes 😳

Wasn't fun.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 09, 2020, 08:18:19 PM
That's so scary, Kade. Wow. Makes me hurt just to read it.

Back in 2017 I was working a second job at FedEx. Had these real nice work boots on, picked up this package, holy shit it's heavy for a long cylindrical thing, next thing I know something's coming out of the cardboard. 90 pound solid steel cylindrical rod. Landed directly on my right big toe. Same thing happened - whole foot went numb, shattered the toe, but not as bad as yours (feels like it was never broken, actually). Still have pictures of the mess it turned into, took ages to heal, the damage was unbelievable even with those thick steel toed boots on. I'm guessing you were wearing tennis shoes, and man that makes me hurt to think about. Jeeze!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 08:36:48 PM
That's so scary, Kade. Wow. Makes me hurt just to read it.

Back in 2017 I was working a second job at FedEx. Had these real nice work boots on, picked up this package, holy shit it's heavy for a long cylindrical thing, next thing I know something's coming out of the cardboard. 90 pound solid steel cylindrical job. Landed directly on my right big toe. Same thing happened - whole foot went numb, shattered the toe, but not as bad as yours (feels like it was never broken, actually). Still have pictures of the mess it turned into, took ages to heal, the damage was unbelievable even with those thick steel toed boots on. I'm guessing you were wearing tennis shoes, and man that makes me hurt to think about. Jeeze!

Wow mate, lucky you were wearning the boots or else you were cooked.

Yeah, just had runners on.  I laugh everytime I look at the signs in the gym 'for health and safety, only covered shoes allowed in the gym.'  Doesn't make a damn difference lol.  I've got a couple of pictures somewhere too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 09, 2020, 09:03:03 PM
Wow I didn't know that, kind of makes your running even more unbelievable after that.  I couldn't imagine looking at my own smashed toe
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 09, 2020, 09:05:54 PM
All the gory detail - though, the pics aren’t showing (thankfully)

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42139.0
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 09:06:18 PM
Wow I didn't know that, kind of makes your running even more unbelievable after that.  I couldn't imagine looking at my own smashed toe

It was a few years ago now.  But took a couple of years initially to get to some kind 'normal.'  It will never be perfect, but it's nothing compared to what others have been through or put up with so I can't complain.  Just hope any long term issues aren't too severe down the track.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 09:09:42 PM
All the gory detail - though, the pics aren’t showing (thankfully)

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42139.0

Wow, I forgot I made a thread.  Reading my initial post, I had no idea what I was in for.  In denial for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
I had no bacon or spinach this morning in the fridge, just eggs and cheese.  I put peanut butter on them.

Don't knock it til you tried it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 15, 2020, 01:07:21 AM
I had no bacon or spinach this morning in the fridge, just eggs and cheese.  I put peanut butter on them.

Don't knock it til you tried it.

Interesting
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2020, 02:21:33 AM
I had no bacon or spinach this morning in the fridge, just eggs and cheese.  I put peanut butter on them.

Don't knock it til you tried it.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/Hitk8jG5sCHe0/200w.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2020, 05:13:41 AM
Gregg would have been proud of the keto-ness of the meal lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 15, 2020, 10:15:20 AM
 :lol doesn't sound good at all, but whatever works

Had my best workout of the week this morning so feeling pretty good today.  A few weeks ago I upped my dumbbells from 30 to 35 and I'm slowly starting to bang out more reps.  Also been making smoothies for lunch when I work from home, which have been tasty and very low calorie overall.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on July 15, 2020, 01:02:38 PM
I had no bacon or spinach this morning in the fridge, just eggs and cheese.  I put peanut butter on them.

Don't knock it til you tried it.

Gregg would have been proud of the keto-ness of the meal lol.

*Nods while grinning*

Speaking of keto. While I've been recovering from my hernia repair, I've been unable to get much exercise but I've effortlessly stuck with keto. Dropped another 10 pounds in 8 weeks. It was pretty exciting to see 189 on the scale. Haven't seen the 180's for more than a decade!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2020, 04:36:49 PM
Well done Gregg, massive achievement and hope your recovery is going well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2020, 07:41:03 PM
Awesomesauce!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 15, 2020, 08:04:30 PM
Nice!! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 15, 2020, 08:10:11 PM
I had no bacon or spinach this morning in the fridge, just eggs and cheese.  I put peanut butter on them.

Don't knock it til you tried it.

I had peanut butter on an english muffin this morning.

Don't knock it till you tried it.  ;D



It was pretty exciting to see 189 on the scale. Haven't seen the 180's for more than a decade!

I apologize if this sounds rude. It's not meant to be, but ......why haven't you seen 180's? You don't strike me as the type of guy to have not taken care of yourself, or have to resort to a fad like keto diet to get back under control.
How tall are you?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on July 16, 2020, 05:25:14 AM
It was pretty exciting to see 189 on the scale. Haven't seen the 180's for more than a decade!

I apologize if this sounds rude. It's not meant to be, but ......why haven't you seen 180's? You don't strike me as the type of guy to have not taken care of yourself, or have to resort to a fad like keto diet to get back under control.
How tall are you?


It actually is rude, but I don't expect you to understand. I've been following your posting career for all these years, after all. I still love you in spite of it.

I'm 5'10", and as you saw from the picture of me with the King, I was pretty round. 140 lbs. Sure, I carried it well, but reality is reality. I have enjoyed my life, which includes good food and good drinks. If you're not active enough, that adds up. For a myriad of boring reasons, I fell out of the habit of working out. So there you have it.

Oh, and keto (for me and millions of other people) is not a fad! It's a dietary philosophy that is keeping me out of diabetes and heart disease. Would you dismissively hand wave away a vegetarian diet for someone with high cholesterol? My A1c's (blood glucose measurement) were at 7.1 prior to starting the diet. With in 6 months, they were down to the 5 ish range. Almost a year later, down to 4.8.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2020, 05:59:36 AM

I'm 5'10", and as you saw from the picture of me with the King, I was pretty round. 140 lbs. Sure, I carried it well, but reality is reality. I have enjoyed my life, which includes good food and good drinks. If you're not active enough, that adds up. For a myriad of boring reasons, I fell out of the habit of working out. So there you have it.

Did you mean 240?  ;D

I guess I meant it as a compliment because you just seem to be a guy on top of his shit.


Oh, and keto (for me and millions of other people) is not a fad! It's a dietary philosophy that is keeping me out of diabetes and heart disease. Would you dismissively hand wave away a vegetarian diet for someone with high cholesterol? My A1c's (blood glucose measurement) were at 7.1 prior to starting the diet. With in 6 months, they were down to the 5 ish range. Almost a year later, down to 4.8.

Would I dismissively hand wave a way a vegetarian diet for high cholesterol? Of course not.

And those A1C readings...yes I know what that is, I'm Type 2, are amazing. It only stands to reason if you cut out carbs, that number will go down. But I mean, sure diabetes can be self induced, but I was oddly diagnosed at 30, not overweight, eating decently. My pancreas just stopped working properly. I had a physical yesterday, so I'd be thrilled if my A1C was in the 6's.
I'm also 5'10" and have been basically at the same weight for the last 30 years staying in the 183-188 range.


And I realize it's a "me" issue, but when I think about these, Atkins, Paleo, Keto, to me it just doesn't add up. It's not a balanced diet.
But if someone is medically necessary to cut something out, that's fine.

How do the carbs in alcohol work in keto diet, er...philosophy?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:14:51 AM
Damn, that sucks Tim regarding the diabetes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 16, 2020, 06:19:24 AM
Truthfully, I think society has been holding on to the '50s standard of "balanced diet" for WAY too long.  I mean, those standards (or "nutrition guides") were developed coming out of the shortages from WWII - of everything... quality meats, produce, fruits etc.  So the "balanced" diet is based on 1950s data, thinking, research at the time.  Additionally, a 'one-size-fits-all' approach is flawed in pretty much everything.  What works for you, for me, for Greg, for Kade ... it's all unique.

I'd very much like to try a keto diet, but no one else in my house will, so I'm not going thru the effort for just myself.  I just try to keep my cals in check, and take in as much protein as I can.  I could be much cleaner on my diet, and at some point, I will clamp down so that I can shed some of the body fat that I want to, in order to get to 10%-ish BF before I turn 50.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:22:44 AM
As you know I started not necessarily keto but upped the fat.  It's worked wonders but I don't think I got in actual ketosis.  I couldn't do what I do without the weekend treats and sugar and carbs.  No way!  It all balances out in the end.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:27:04 AM
I just try to keep my cals in check, and take in as much protein as I can. 

Pretty much this. Make sure fat is in check and you're good.

No matter type of eating plan you take on, you want to lose weight, you need a calorie defecit.  Even if krispy kremes are you main food source, stay in a defecit  and you can eat them every day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on July 16, 2020, 06:57:50 AM
I just try to keep my cals in check, and take in as much protein as I can. 

Pretty much this. Make sure fat is in check and you're good.

No matter type of eating plan you take on, you want to lose weight, you need a calorie defecit.  Even if krispy kremes are you main food source, stay in a defecit  and you can eat them every day.

Pretty much. I remember reading years ago of a teacher or professor who ate McD's but keeping a calorie defecit and he ended up losing like 50 pounds.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 07:09:56 AM
I just try to keep my cals in check, and take in as much protein as I can. 

Pretty much this. Make sure fat is in check and you're good.

No matter type of eating plan you take on, you want to lose weight, you need a calorie defecit.  Even if krispy kremes are you main food source, stay in a defecit  and you can eat them every day.

Pretty much. I remember reading years ago of a teacher or professor who ate McD's but keeping a calorie defecit and he ended up losing like 50 pounds.

Pretty sure there was the same study on twinkies too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on July 16, 2020, 10:34:31 AM

I'm 5'10", and as you saw from the picture of me with the King, I was pretty round. 140 lbs. Sure, I carried it well, but reality is reality. I have enjoyed my life, which includes good food and good drinks. If you're not active enough, that adds up. For a myriad of boring reasons, I fell out of the habit of working out. So there you have it.

Did you mean 240?  ;D


 :facepalm: Doh, of course.  :lol

I echo Chad's comments about antiquated standards of a "balanced diet". My body simply needed a different balance. Because it's only me and Mrs. P in the house, it's easy for us to stay on keto.


How do the carbs in alcohol work in keto diet, er...philosophy?


There are zero carbs in distilled liquor (well a little in rum, but I don't drink rum). There is a few in wine. And beer is all over the place (but I don't drink beer often). Mixers are where the outlandish carbs come from, so like Chad, I pretty much stick with sipping Scotch neat, or have a Gin and sugar-free tonic...an occasional glass of red wine. I've always been a moderate imbiber anyway, so no problem there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 06:30:17 AM


There are zero carbs in distilled liquor (well a little in rum, but I don't drink rum). There is a few in wine. And beer is all over the place (but I don't drink beer often). Mixers are where the outlandish carbs come from, so like Chad, I pretty much stick with sipping Scotch neat, or have a Gin and sugar-free tonic...an occasional glass of red wine. I've always been a moderate imbiber anyway, so no problem there.

That's interesting.

Imbiber means drinker I assume?




Truthfully, I think society has been holding on to the '50s standard of "balanced diet" for WAY too long.  I mean, those standards (or "nutrition guides") were developed coming out of the shortages from WWII - of everything... quality meats, produce, fruits etc.  So the "balanced" diet is based on 1950s data, thinking, research at the time.  Additionally, a 'one-size-fits-all' approach is flawed in pretty much everything.  What works for you, for me, for Greg, for Kade ... it's all unique.

Haven't the food pyramids been adjusted a couple of times over the years? Nutritional groups can always be manipulated for a desired goal.



My stepson was going to do the Keto diet and my wife begged him not to. Ketosis seems like a pretty scary thing. And as a diabetic, I'm certainly not trying to add ketones to my blood/urine.


Nothing wrong with a low carb diet. I have to watch my carb intake. But to me, the keto diet seems a bit too strong. Seems to much of a swing.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 17, 2020, 08:57:26 AM
They actually revamped the Canada Food Guide in 2018 or 2019. It's pretty good in terms of general nutritional guidelines. I guess they decide to take advice from dietitians instead of idustry CEOs. Of course the dairy farmers think you should drink 8 glasses of milk each day. Doesn't mean it's necessary or nutritional.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 01:59:11 PM
They actually revamped the Canada Food Guide in 2018 or 2019. It's pretty good in terms of general nutritional guidelines. I guess they decide to take advice from dietitians instead of idustry CEOs. Of course the dairy farmers think you should drink 8 glasses of milk each day. Doesn't mean it's necessary or nutritional.

I was a milk fanatic for years (1%). But for the last few years I’ve only had sugar free almond milk which I really enjoy. It still goes great with my protein shakes.  But every once in awhile I will still have a chocolate milk, which rules  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:01:15 PM
I think almond milk in a protein shake would be fine, but no way could I drink a glass of almond milk.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 02:02:03 PM
I like it
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:06:38 PM
My wife will buy it and out it in her cereal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 02:11:01 PM
My wife will buy it and out it in her cereal.

Not that there is anything wrong with that
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 17, 2020, 02:14:55 PM
I think almond milk in a protein shake would be fine, but no way could I drink a glass of almond milk.

It's really good on its own. I prefer drinking it to real milk. I also use almond milk in my coffee and cappuccinos
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 02:16:14 PM
I think almond milk in a protein shake would be fine, but no way could I drink a glass of almond milk.

It's really good on its own. I prefer drinking it to real milk. I also use almond milk in my coffee and cappuccinos

 :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:17:46 PM
You, you could probably hide it in a coffee.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 02:45:57 PM
I think almond milk in a protein shake would be fine, but no way could I drink a glass of almond milk.

I drink plain unsweetened almond milk pretty much every day.

For protein shakes though, I'll mainly use water though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 02:46:44 PM
I think almond milk in a protein shake would be fine, but no way could I drink a glass of almond milk.

It's really good on its own. I prefer drinking it to real milk. I also use almond milk in my coffee and cappuccinos

Yeah, I usually only buy coffees but been getting them on almond milk for a few years now.  Works really really well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 02:53:41 PM
I buy Silk Almond Unsweetened Original Milk and their slogan is "You'll go nuts, we promise.  And if you don't, we'll give your money back.  No hard feelings"...…………..I have never returned an Almond milk to date  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 02:55:12 PM
I buy Silk Almond Unsweetened Original Milk and their slogan is "You'll go nuts, we promise.  And if you don't, we'll give your money back.  No hard feelings"...…………..I have never returned an Almond milk to date  :lol

I love those type of down to earth slogans.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
I buy Silk Almond Unsweetened Original Milk and their slogan is "You'll go nuts, we promise.  And if you don't, we'll give your money back.  No hard feelings"...…………..I have never returned an Almond milk to date  :lol

I love those type of down to earth slogans.

Silky Smooth, Taste You'll Love
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 03:03:42 PM
The quicker picker upper

#howsthatone?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 17, 2020, 03:14:29 PM
Whatever you do, just don't call it 'nut juice'  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2020, 04:05:43 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 04:26:55 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2020, 04:33:06 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on July 17, 2020, 10:57:56 PM
Unsweetened almond milk rules.  I first tried it because it lasts so much longer than regular milk, but found that I prefer it anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2020, 04:33:54 AM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2020, 04:34:57 AM
Unsweetened almond milk rules.  I first tried it because it lasts so much longer than regular milk, but found that I prefer it anyway.

Most say discard after 5 days of opening or something but I've had some up to a week and a half or longer and they are always fine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2020, 04:42:18 AM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

So?  It's $50 here.  On top of that, the Executive Membership is another $50, providing a 2% rebate cheque at the end of the year on every purchase you've made.  They guarantee a minimum rebate of $50, so it literally pays for itself.  I once had a rebate check of $330.  I'd say I the average rebate I've gotten is around $200.  Shopping at Costco is more than worth the membership fee.  EVERYTHING is less expensive at Costco - food staples, household supplies, clothes, electronics ... hell, they sell $100 iTunes gift cards for $90, and sometimes have them on sale for $80.  Also, protein powders and bars - WAAAAAYYY cheaper than the health stores.

Though, we have 2 kids living at home, so there's that.  If it's just you and your lady, you don't need quite as much - but I'd still bet it's more than worth the $60
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2020, 05:19:59 AM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

So?  It's $50 here.  On top of that, the Executive Membership is another $50, providing a 2% rebate cheque at the end of the year on every purchase you've made.  They guarantee a minimum rebate of $50, so it literally pays for itself.  I once had a rebate check of $330.  I'd say I the average rebate I've gotten is around $200.  Shopping at Costco is more than worth the membership fee.  EVERYTHING is less expensive at Costco - food staples, household supplies, clothes, electronics ... hell, they sell $100 iTunes gift cards for $90, and sometimes have them on sale for $80.  Also, protein powders and bars - WAAAAAYYY cheaper than the health stores.

Though, we have 2 kids living at home, so there's that.  If it's just you and your lady, you don't need quite as much - but I'd still bet it's more than worth the $60

Yeah fair enough, but I don't have the time for that sort of stuff.  I'm lazy as fuck, I want to walk into a store and pay for something and leave.  Sounds arrogant but I don't really need to worry about saving a few bucks here and there.  I'll look for specials but if nothing is on, I'm cheap as fuck anyway and only buy the essentials.

I probably should have mentioned  first off that the nearest Costco to me is over an hour drive anyway lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2020, 05:28:15 AM
Well, there's that (the drive) too.  Nearest one to me currently is about 40 mins away.  We go probably 2x per month.  They're about 1/2 way thru building one that is about 15 mins away.  It was supposed to be done by September, but COVID delayed the start.  Hopefully it'll be up and running around Christmastime.

Though, the 'cheap as fuck' would play right in to being a member.  I pay $100 to get $200 rebate, PLUS all the savings.  No judgment here, it's just how I'm wired.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2020, 05:33:00 AM
Well, there's that (the drive) too.  Nearest one to me currently is about 40 mins away.  We go probably 2x per month.  They're about 1/2 way thru building one that is about 15 mins away.  It was supposed to be done by September, but COVID delayed the start.  Hopefully it'll be up and running around Christmastime.

Though, the 'cheap as fuck' would play right in to being a member.  I pay $100 to get $200 rebate, PLUS all the savings.  No judgment here, it's just how I'm wired.

Didn't know you worked at Costco.  ;D jk.

There's supposed to be one getting built in my local area, if that ever happens then I'll definitely be looking more into it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Lethean on July 18, 2020, 09:18:54 AM
Unsweetened almond milk rules.  I first tried it because it lasts so much longer than regular milk, but found that I prefer it anyway.

Most say discard after 5 days of opening or something but I've had some up to a week and a half or longer and they are always fine.
Mine says 7-10 days which is already longer than I'd keep open milk, but like you, I've had it for longer than that and it's always been fine. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 18, 2020, 11:25:24 AM
Wolf, you can't be lazy as fuck if you run 500 miles a week lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Wolf, you can't be lazy as fuck if you run 500 miles a week lol

With fitness I'm all over it, it's just everything else in life I have zero motivation for.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on July 18, 2020, 04:57:42 PM
Wolf, you can't be lazy as fuck if you run 500 miles a week lol

With fitness I'm all over it, it's just everything else in life I have zero motivation for.

 :rollin  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 03:53:33 AM
It's weird, putting in at the gym or running 10 miles gets me going, but simple shit in life is just brutal and I couldn't be fucked.  Getting up, going to gym, appointment, putting the car in for servicing, buying anything that needs a bit of research, then especially if you have to put it together, cooking, washing, you name it, can't stand it.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 03:54:43 AM
10 mile (16km) run time today was down.  Did some 3x4km speed interval training last week for something different but back to a big run today.  1.24.11 last 10 mile but today was 1.25.00.  Gutted. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2020, 05:25:36 AM
10 mile (16km) run time today was down.  Did some 3x4km speed interval training last week for something different but back to a big run today.  1.24.11 last 10 mile but today was 1.25.00.  Gutted.

Easy there Roger Bannister ... not every outing is gonna be a PB.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 06:12:59 AM
10 mile (16km) run time today was down.  Did some 3x4km speed interval training last week for something different but back to a big run today.  1.24.11 last 10 mile but today was 1.25.00.  Gutted.

Easy there Roger Bannister ... not every outing is gonna be a PB.  :lol

Truth right here, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2020, 06:15:11 AM
I get tired driving ten miles.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 06:26:38 AM
I get tired driving ten miles.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 19, 2020, 10:51:48 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on July 20, 2020, 12:56:35 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

I pay for the $150 executive membership. I made my money back in just gas savings alone. I paid for it a second time just in meat purchases. I paid for it 1.5 more times last year when I got about $230 worth of Costco cash.   

Buying a membership to Costco is one of the best financial decisions you could make.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2020, 12:59:33 PM
I crested under 180lbs with this morning's weigh-in ... 179.6.  Down 1lb over last week.  Weight loss isn't my goal right now, it's BF%.  It went down 0.1%.  If I can do that every week, that will make me a happier camper.  Half a percent per month will get me where I want to be by the spring.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on July 20, 2020, 01:02:13 PM
Been having a frustrating couple of days. On the 27th, I started upping my daily walking from 5 miles to 7 miles, with bits of jogging sprinkled in. The weightloss hit a brick wall as soon as I made the change  :justjen I haven't broken 1600 calories in a day in weeks.

(https://i.imgur.com/nRHmtiil.png)

I've been in a hell of a groove lately. I've been doing a solid 7-8 miles a day around my area. It's 95% walking, but there's a number of 400'+ climbs and it's a heck of a work out, at least for my fat ass. I'll admit that my calorie intake is hovering around 900-1000 calories a day, but I don't feel weak, or tired, or fatigued, etc. I've gone from drinking 3/4 of a gallon of milk a day to just a 1/4 cup in a fruit smoothie.
(https://i.imgur.com/Drk2Yx6.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 01:09:28 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

I pay for the $150 executive membership. I made my money back in just gas savings alone. I paid for it a second time just in meat purchases. I paid for it 1.5 more times last year when I got about $230 worth of Costco cash.   

Buying a membership to Costco is one of the best financial decisions you could make.

Yea, the costco membership really works itself out if you shop there enough.  As a single dude, that means it doesn't work out too often in my favor since I just don't buy that much stuff.  However, I do get the membership every few years and will stock up on the things that will last for awhile and then let the membership slide until I need to stock up again... which will probably happen before the end of the year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2020, 01:14:09 PM
That's the goods man.  Awesome!  23lbs in 4 weeks is pretty aggressive, but not like Biggest Loser stupid-aggressive.  2.5% of body weight is fantastic.  Slow and steady wins the race.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 01:21:26 PM
Yea, good work Chino.  You are going a bit more hardcore than I was last year when I wanted to drop my fat so I know, and I'm sure you do too at this point, that it works. 

For me, I have such a hard time keeping the calories low when I'm home all day.  It was so easy to keep my calories at 1k when I had a set schedule and could find my flow, but I have no flow at all these days and while I'm doing well with the exercise, the diet side has just not really been there for me.  I say this as I am prepping to make a pepperoni, onions, and peppers pizza for dinner later. 

I guess the good part about my diet is I'm almost done eating all the old processed foods I had.  I think I want to embrace the idea of not having any sort of boxed meal in my house.  Just fresh meats/veggies/fruits/breads.  It'll encourage me not to eat shit snack foods, and to also cook healthy meals every day.  Last grocery trip was essentially all meats/veggies/fruits/breads and I felt pretty good when checking out that my cart was all natural foods. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 20, 2020, 02:27:49 PM
Freaking awesome, Chino!

I've been doing real good with my diet lately. One thing that's become a staple of my diet now is an avocado every day. I love the process of cutting it open and removing it from the shell, although the pit is always a pain. But slicing it up and adding a little salt... super healthy, delicious snack.

That said today has been an absolute Monday so this guy just might be having a vodka-OJ tonight and will hit reset tomorrow. :getoffmylawn: I can just count it as a rest day...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 02:30:41 PM
The booze certainly doesn't help my diet either, but I never cut that out since I started being healthier  :lol but will admit, that goes with the stay at home shit not being good for my calorie counting as I'm drinking more than I would otherwise.  I still have a bunch of Trooper beers that I may crack open in a bit since my work day (which has been very slow) is winding down.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

I pay for the $150 executive membership. I made my money back in just gas savings alone. I paid for it a second time just in meat purchases. I paid for it 1.5 more times last year when I got about $230 worth of Costco cash.   

Buying a membership to Costco is one of the best financial decisions you could make.

Yea, the costco membership really works itself out if you shop there enough.  As a single dude, that means it doesn't work out too often in my favor since I just don't buy that much stuff.  However, I do get the membership every few years and will stock up on the things that will last for awhile and then let the membership slide until I need to stock up again... which will probably happen before the end of the year.

Maybe I need to look into it more then.  But yeah, like Cram, I don't buy a lot of stuff so not sure it would benefit me a whole that.  To be honest I thought it was just a 60 dollar fee to shop there.  Didn't understand the reason or benefit behind it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2020, 03:09:45 PM
Well done Chino!!  Massive effort.  Be careful though as 1000 calories is very low.  Make sure you have a day here and there where you up them a bit to give your body a bit of a reset.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 03:12:28 PM
Well, it is a fee to shop there, but you get significant savings by buying in bulk.  For chino's example, you get a % back too with the credit card so you can easily earn the cash back based on your spending already if it's that high. 

Costco brand (Kirkland) is also really high quality and cheap usually.  Even their booze is fantastic value.  I think if I just bought 5 bottles of that over 5 bottles of Titos, I'd earn that fee back up in the savings.  Sadly, there just isn't a costco that sells booze very close to me otherwise I'd keep that yearly membership.

Well done Chino!!  Massive effort.  Be careful though as 1000 calories is very low.  Make sure you have a day here and there where you up them a bit to give your body a bit of a reset.

Check out the BBQ thread and I'm sure there are some days where he goes over 1k  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on July 20, 2020, 03:14:05 PM
Buying in bulk is neat but unless I was shopping for more than one person I think I would actually spend more money shopping there due to the membership. Like, my old man gave me a box of trash bags from there. Lasted me almost 2 full years, I used the last one last week. I guess if I use the membership for one year and buy a lot of specific stuff in bulk then technically I could save money by not renewing the membership  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 03:16:39 PM
Buying in bulk is neat but unless I was shopping for more than one person I think I would actually spend more money shopping there due to the membership. Like, my old man gave me a box of trash bags from there. Lasted me almost 2 full years, I used the last one last week. I guess if I use the membership for one year and buy a lot of specific stuff in bulk then technically I could save money by not renewing the membership  :lol

This is what I do.  Like the toilet paper and paper towels.  Stuff like that I will buy with my membership and then let it expire until I run out of that stuff.  Which like you said, for a single person, could be years. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2020, 03:19:57 PM
Buying in bulk is neat but unless I was shopping for more than one person I think I would actually spend more money shopping there due to the membership. Like, my old man gave me a box of trash bags from there. Lasted me almost 2 full years, I used the last one last week. I guess if I use the membership for one year and buy a lot of specific stuff in bulk then technically I could save money by not renewing the membership  :lol

This would be me for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on July 20, 2020, 03:31:45 PM
Mrs. P bought a restaurant sized box of cellophane wrap from Costco in 1998. In 2012, we added the box to our list of items to be distributed upon our death to the children, specifically going to our youngest son (he won the right to it in a game of Cards Against Humanity). Our attorney called me a month later to see if we were serious. "If it's still in the family, of course we're serious."

November 2017 while wrapping up Thanksgiving leftovers it final expelled it last piece of yellowish cellophane. We had all the kids over to cremate the box in the backyard. They all shared a story and toasted to it's memory.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 03:44:44 PM
 :rollin wtf
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2020, 03:46:54 PM
I don't for one second believe his kidding.

I still have a couple of cans of Comet cleaning scrub that I bought when I went away to University in 1993
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on July 20, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

I pay for the $150 executive membership. I made my money back in just gas savings alone. I paid for it a second time just in meat purchases. I paid for it 1.5 more times last year when I got about $230 worth of Costco cash.   

Buying a membership to Costco is one of the best financial decisions you could make.

Yea, the costco membership really works itself out if you shop there enough.  As a single dude, that means it doesn't work out too often in my favor since I just don't buy that much stuff.  However, I do get the membership every few years and will stock up on the things that will last for awhile and then let the membership slide until I need to stock up again... which will probably happen before the end of the year.

Maybe I need to look into it more then.  But yeah, like Cram, I don't buy a lot of stuff so not sure it would benefit me a whole that.  To be honest I thought it was just a 60 dollar fee to shop there.  Didn't understand the reason or benefit behind it.

The cost savings are ridiculous, truly. I live alone and still get my money's worth several times over every year. I can't get everything there though. I don't get much fresh produce there. I mean, I'm not going to eat 5lbs of spinach before it goes bad. But I buy 4lb containers of grapes there, bananas, 12 packs of apples... stuff like that. I get a lot of frozen fruit there and that'll last as long as I need it to. Those are the things that go in my shakes.

Meat too. I'll get a 9 pound slab of pork belly, cut it into three 3lb slabs and freeze them. Same goes for my eye round (for jerky), chicken wings, chicken breast, ground turkey, etc.. I have anything I'd want on standby. Toilet paper, paper towels, cat litter, power bars, milk, eggs, ciabatta rolls (I freeze those too), mozzarella, cereal, shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, floss, tooth paste, flowers... those are all things I only buy at Costco and never really end up wasting any of it. It's a great place if you're entertaining and need to feed people as well. You won't beat their prices anywhere else. I've had single day BBQs that almost paid for my annual membership in what I saved at Costco's meat department.

Then there's all the big ticket items. Every year I seem to make 1 or 2 big-ish purchases for the house. A couch, rowing machine, 60" TV, power washer, kayak, generator, a gazebo... all single item purchases, the savings of which paid the equivalent+ of an annual membership each (maybe not the kayak).

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on July 20, 2020, 03:56:32 PM


Well done Chino!!  Massive effort.  Be careful though as 1000 calories is very low.  Make sure you have a day here and there where you up them a bit to give your body a bit of a reset.

Check out the BBQ thread and I'm sure there are some days where he goes over 1k  :lol

What Cram said :lol I went a good 3-4 weeks without breaking 1200, but the last two weekends I let myself have a couple beers and a chunk of meat with some buddies.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2020, 03:58:55 PM


Well done Chino!!  Massive effort.  Be careful though as 1000 calories is very low.  Make sure you have a day here and there where you up them a bit to give your body a bit of a reset.

Check out the BBQ thread and I'm sure there are some days where he goes over 1k  :lol

What Cram said :lol I went a good 3-4 weeks without breaking 1200, but the last two weekends I let myself have a couple beers and a chunk of meat with some buddies.

Nothing wrong with that and like wolfking said, with such a low calorie diet, it's probably best you do have a couple days a week where you go over.  Also, it's nice to reward yourself for the hard work.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2020, 04:09:13 PM


Well done Chino!!  Massive effort.  Be careful though as 1000 calories is very low.  Make sure you have a day here and there where you up them a bit to give your body a bit of a reset.

Check out the BBQ thread and I'm sure there are some days where he goes over 1k  :lol

What Cram said :lol I went a good 3-4 weeks without breaking 1200, but the last two weekends I let myself have a couple beers and a chunk of meat with some buddies.

This is good.  In a way you're calorie cycling.  Do the same thing.  Keep it as low through the week and up it significantly on the weekends.  Works wonders and always seem to look a bit better the next Monday morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2020, 04:09:44 PM
I get the vanilla almond milk - unsweetened. Cereal and shakes/smoothies. Perfect so as to not drink my calories.

I go for whatever unsweetened is on special, don't care about the brand, but I'm always stoked if an unsweetened vanilla is on sale.  :metal

6-pack from Costco - always a good price.

Costco over here you have to pay 60 bucks to sign up just to shop there.  Fuck that.

I pay for the $150 executive membership. I made my money back in just gas savings alone. I paid for it a second time just in meat purchases. I paid for it 1.5 more times last year when I got about $230 worth of Costco cash.   

Buying a membership to Costco is one of the best financial decisions you could make.

Yea, the costco membership really works itself out if you shop there enough.  As a single dude, that means it doesn't work out too often in my favor since I just don't buy that much stuff.  However, I do get the membership every few years and will stock up on the things that will last for awhile and then let the membership slide until I need to stock up again... which will probably happen before the end of the year.

Maybe I need to look into it more then.  But yeah, like Cram, I don't buy a lot of stuff so not sure it would benefit me a whole that.  To be honest I thought it was just a 60 dollar fee to shop there.  Didn't understand the reason or benefit behind it.

The cost savings are ridiculous, truly. I live alone and still get my money's worth several times over every year. I can't get everything there though. I don't get much fresh produce there. I mean, I'm not going to eat 5lbs of spinach before it goes bad. But I buy 4lb containers of grapes there, bananas, 12 packs of apples... stuff like that. I get a lot of frozen fruit there and that'll last as long as I need it to. Those are the things that go in my shakes.

Meat too. I'll get a 9 pound slab of pork belly, cut it into three 3lb slabs and freeze them. Same goes for my eye round (for jerky), chicken wings, chicken breast, ground turkey, etc.. I have anything I'd want on standby. Toilet paper, paper towels, cat litter, power bars, milk, eggs, ciabatta rolls (I freeze those too), mozzarella, cereal, shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, floss, tooth paste, flowers... those are all things I only buy at Costco and never really end up wasting any of it. It's a great place if you're entertaining and need to feed people as well. You won't beat their prices anywhere else. I've had single day BBQs that almost paid for my annual membership in what I saved at Costco's meat department.

Then there's all the big ticket items. Every year I seem to make 1 or 2 big-ish purchases for the house. A couch, rowing machine, 60" TV, power washer, kayak, generator, a gazebo... all single item purchases, the savings of which paid the equivalent+ of an annual membership each (maybe not the kayak).

Maybe I'll look more into it then.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2020, 04:10:01 PM
Mrs. P bought a restaurant sized box of cellophane wrap from Costco in 1998. In 2012, we added the box to our list of items to be distributed upon our death to the children, specifically going to our youngest son (he won the right to it in a game of Cards Against Humanity). Our attorney called me a month later to see if we were serious. "If it's still in the family, of course we're serious."

November 2017 while wrapping up Thanksgiving leftovers it final expelled it last piece of yellowish cellophane. We had all the kids over to cremate the box in the backyard. They all shared a story and toasted to it's memory.

Outstanding.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on July 23, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
I like this one:
(https://preview.redd.it/8fgx38hflmc51.jpg?width=404&auto=webp&s=df57243bfe30983d04b0b86936d095e6e3c5f8f1)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 23, 2020, 02:45:46 PM
I like this one:
(https://preview.redd.it/8fgx38hflmc51.jpg?width=404&auto=webp&s=df57243bfe30983d04b0b86936d095e6e3c5f8f1)

Yes guy!!   :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2020, 09:15:07 AM
It has been years - YEARS - since I've had a case of DOMS as bad as I do right now - I can't even lift my arms fully above my head.

Did a push-pull pyramid routine on Wednesday.  Starts with 10 pullups and 20 pushups in 1 minute, with one minute rest.  Then drop the reps by 2 to 8/18.  Again, get it done in 60 seconds, with 60 seconds rest.  Continue down til the rep count is 0/10.  Then, work back up, this time with 2 mins to complete the reps, and 2 mins of rest.  Ultimately, that routine finishes at 60 pullups, and 170 pushups in 29 minutes.

Holy hell, my teres minors (the muscle between the rear delt and the lat - I had to look up the name) are absolutely raging.  I'm trying to stretch them out and get some blood flowing in there, but man are they tight and stiff.  Thursday was my off day, and around lunchtime yesterday, the DOMS started kicking in.  Ended up taking yesterday off too.  I got on the bike this morning for an hour, and gonna try to do some legs/abs later - nothing that involves arms or back, that's for sure.  Might try to do some Yoga tomorrow to loosen them up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 25, 2020, 10:27:21 AM
I might have to try that workout. The first few minutes seem pretty daunting with those pull up reps
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2020, 11:08:49 AM
I might have to try that workout. The first few minutes seem pretty daunting with those pull up reps

Stole it from here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVgBWSOPx0I).  Since my max (uninterrupted) pullups is apparently 10, that's why I started there.  For those that can do more, then it's 20/20 to start.  And to be truthful, it was the last 2 sets of pullups that were killer.  I ended up using a red band for support to lighten my load.  Still barely got the last 2 pullups done.

Oh yeah, and my pec/tris are also raging on me.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2020, 03:26:17 PM
I'll have to give that a go I reckon.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on July 26, 2020, 06:42:40 AM
That sounds crazy, I'll have to give it a go, that amount of pullups will be tough as hell.

I picked up some kettlebells to do some kettlebell works out and it's not easy, it's going to take time to get used to working out with them.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 26, 2020, 07:05:58 AM
That sounds crazy, I'll have to give it a go, that amount of pullups will be tough as hell.

I picked up some kettlebells to do some kettlebell works out and it's not easy, it's going to take time to get used to working out with them.

I love kettle bells! You can create monster workouts with them just doing swings, snatches and thrusters
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2020, 07:07:33 AM
That sounds crazy, I'll have to give it a go, that amount of pullups will be tough as hell.

I picked up some kettlebells to do some kettlebell works out and it's not easy, it's going to take time to get used to working out with them.

How heavy out of curiosity?  And what kind of exercises?  I’d love to get some kettle bells, but I can make due with the DBs that I have.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on July 26, 2020, 07:40:13 AM
I got a 15, 20, and 25lb kettle bell and I started this routine:

https://www.onnit.com/academy/full-body-kettlebell-workout-for-beginners/

It was a lot harder than I thought it'd be keeping the weight stable, they weights feels heavier than their dumbbell counterpart.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on July 28, 2020, 09:57:12 AM
After couple of months of postponing (for reasons like "I don't have any running shoes" and "I can't spare 30 minutes because I've got so much to do" and a somewhat valid one that we couldn't officially go outside without a mask until early July I think) I finally started running with Couch to 5k program. Enjoyed my first day and looking forward for the second (I'm going to do Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday or Sunday). I like that it takes only around 30-40 minutes each day so that I can get back home from work, change and head out to run/walk.

I'm sure the next couple of weeks aren't going to be much fun though :lol Especially as I've heard weeks 4 and 5 are fairly difficult. Curious if I can finish all 9 weeks, should definitely be a challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 28, 2020, 10:40:59 AM
Jingle, I did that push/pull pyramid workout this morning. Not too bad. I did it in 24 minutes (I cut the rest down to 1 min for the first few sets on the way up). I can already feel the hurt, and it's only been an hour since the workout. Tomorrow may be a tough day.



After couple of months of postponing (for reasons like "I don't have any running shoes" and "I can't spare 30 minutes because I've got so much to do" and a somewhat valid one that we couldn't officially go outside without a mask until early July I think) I finally started running with Couch to 5k program. Enjoyed my first day and looking forward for the second (I'm going to do Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday or Sunday). I like that it takes only around 30-40 minutes each day so that I can get back home from work, change and head out to run/walk.

I'm sure the next couple of weeks aren't going to be much fun though :lol Especially as I've heard weeks 4 and 5 are fairly difficult. Curious if I can finish all 9 weeks, should definitely be a challenge.

Nice! I did one of those programs way back in the day coming out of highschool when I first got into running. Honestly, if you stick to the program the end isn't too bad. You get used to the pain.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2020, 11:29:21 AM
Jingle, I did that push/pull pyramid workout this morning. Not too bad. I did it in 24 minutes (I cut the rest down to 1 min for the first few sets on the way up). I can already feel the hurt, and it's only been an hour since the workout. Tomorrow may be a tough day.

I think part of my soreness was because I was really controlling the eccentric on my pullups.  IIRC, you're a bit stronger than me vis-a-vis pullups, so cutting the rest to 1 minute if you can is probably a good idea.  No way I could do it though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 28, 2020, 01:05:30 PM
I think i paid for the shortened rest by the end. The last 2 sets on the way up took me the full 2min to finish the reps. And i mean the full 2
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2020, 02:18:00 PM
I think i paid for the shortened rest by the end. The last 2 sets on the way up took me the full 2min to finish the reps. And i mean the full 2

Did you start at 20 pullups, or 10?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 28, 2020, 05:17:46 PM
I think i paid for the shortened rest by the end. The last 2 sets on the way up took me the full 2min to finish the reps. And i mean the full 2

Did you start at 20 pullups, or 10?
10. I couldn't do 20 in 2 minutes period, let alone with the push ups
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2020, 06:45:25 PM
I think i paid for the shortened rest by the end. The last 2 sets on the way up took me the full 2min to finish the reps. And i mean the full 2

Did you start at 20 pullups, or 10?
10. I couldn't do 20 in 2 minutes period, let alone with the push ups

I mean, I know that Jeff Cavaliere is in god-tier shape, but it's f'n impressive to do 20 pullups and 20 pushups in 60 seconds.  That's an average - AVERAGE - of one rep per 1.5 seconds - let alone the time to transition between the floor and a pullup bar.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2020, 06:57:45 PM
I think i paid for the shortened rest by the end. The last 2 sets on the way up took me the full 2min to finish the reps. And i mean the full 2

Did you start at 20 pullups, or 10?
10. I couldn't do 20 in 2 minutes period, let alone with the push ups

I mean, I know that Jeff Cavaliere is in god-tier shape, but it's f'n impressive to do 20 pullups and 20 pushups in 60 seconds.  That's an average - AVERAGE - of one rep per 1.5 seconds - let alone the time to transition between the floor and a pullup bar.

Form would certainly have to suffer doing these numbers.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 28, 2020, 07:05:12 PM
To be honest, my form starts suffering after 4 consecutive pull ups. And that's from fresh.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2020, 07:12:11 PM
To be honest, my form starts suffering after 4 consecutive pull ups. And that's from fresh.

I'd probably get to 6-7, and then if I concentrate on form, things start slowing down lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2020, 08:55:03 PM
I know I'm a gigantic fanboi for Athlean-X, but seriously guys ... invest 12 minutes to watch this.  I'll lay down $100 that you'll improve your pullups (either quality or quantity - or both) on your first effort of paying attention to even a couple of these pieces of advice - it did for me.  I was a 6-8 pullup guy, and after not having done pullups in about a 5 weeks, I was able to hammer out that first set of 10 last week with really good form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K81-SLUFo9c&t=2s

Two biggest pieces that helped me - pull the hands inwards, and 'plug the leaks'.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 28, 2020, 09:08:56 PM
Ok. I wasn't doing most of what was on his list lol. I'm actually a little excited to see what happens with just a couple technique improvements
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2020, 11:01:05 PM
I know I'm a gigantic fanboi for Athlean-X, but seriously guys ... invest 12 minutes to watch this.  I'll lay down $100 that you'll improve your pullups (either quality or quantity - or both) on your first effort of paying attention to even a couple of these pieces of advice - it did for me.  I was a 6-8 pullup guy, and after not having done pullups in about a 5 weeks, I was able to hammer out that first set of 10 last week with really good form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K81-SLUFo9c&t=2s

Two biggest pieces that helped me - pull the hands inwards, and 'plug the leaks'.

I'll check this tonight.

This guy does know his shit though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2020, 05:32:20 AM
Good video.  I think there is a lot there I don't do but maybe a couple I do.  Keeping the lower body tight is something I know I don't do.  I definitely cross my legs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 29, 2020, 06:55:44 AM
Good video.  I think there is a lot there I don't do but maybe a couple I do.  Keeping the lower body tight is something I know I don't do.  I definitely cross my legs.
That and the pulling the hands together are on my list of needed improvements. I probably use too close a grip sometimes, as well. Basically...i was doing them almost completely wrong
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2020, 07:01:49 AM
As far as keeping the body tight, it's a piece of advice for virtually every exercise.  Curls?  Keep the entire body engaged.  Same with overhead press.  He's got a saying - you can't fire a cannon from a canoe.   :lol  Honestly, I've seen noticeable improvements on those kinds of upper-body movements when I keep my core and legs tight.  He's got a good video on bench press too with KC Mitchell (That 1 Legged Monster).  Again, noticeable improvements just by improving my technique.

Curious to know how you guys find it when you give it a go.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2020, 03:16:55 PM
Good video.  I think there is a lot there I don't do but maybe a couple I do.  Keeping the lower body tight is something I know I don't do.  I definitely cross my legs.
That and the pulling the hands together are on my list of needed improvements. I probably use too close a grip sometimes, as well. Basically...i was doing them almost completely wrong

I was under the impression that changing where your grip is would be a good thing but now it seems I do them too wide or either too narrow.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 02, 2020, 03:51:21 AM
After couple of months of postponing (for reasons like "I don't have any running shoes" and "I can't spare 30 minutes because I've got so much to do" and a somewhat valid one that we couldn't officially go outside without a mask until early July I think) I finally started running with Couch to 5k program. Enjoyed my first day and looking forward for the second (I'm going to do Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday or Sunday). I like that it takes only around 30-40 minutes each day so that I can get back home from work, change and head out to run/walk.

I'm sure the next couple of weeks aren't going to be much fun though :lol Especially as I've heard weeks 4 and 5 are fairly difficult. Curious if I can finish all 9 weeks, should definitely be a challenge.

Nice! I did one of those programs way back in the day coming out of highschool when I first got into running. Honestly, if you stick to the program the end isn't too bad. You get used to the pain.

Yeah, week 1 was really easy and I'm really enjoying running so far. Week 2 doesn't look too difficult either, I'm not winded after a minute of running so 90 seconds shouldn't be too difficult. I expect either Week 3 or Week 4 to really suck though. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 03:55:55 AM
I do hope you got some proper running shoes Ruslan.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 02, 2020, 04:00:27 AM
I have actually, went into a shop for runners and got a fairly expensive (like 10% of my monthly wage expensive) pair of shoes which are very comfortable so far. I'm also running in a local park which is like 5 minutes from my home so I was specifically looking for a trail running shoes (or whatever it's called, running on natural roads instead of asphalt and so on).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 04:08:12 AM
I have actually, went into a shop for runners and got a fairly expensive (like 10% of my monthly wage expensive) pair of shoes which are very comfortable so far. I'm also running in a local park which is like 5 minutes from my home so I was specifically looking for a trail running shoes (or whatever it's called, running on natural roads instead of asphalt and so on).

Good stuff mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 04:11:16 AM
Still enjoying my running.  Set a bit of a montly goal for myself based on the volume I've been doing on a weekly basis. This takes the the weekly average up a little bit on what I have been doing to make it more challening.  Looking at doing 200km (125 miles) in the month of August.  both yesterday and today did 12km each day, so already the 2nd of August I'm up to 24km.  Never run back to back days of over 10kms but half the run today was on par with record time but the second half I fell flat.  See how I go tomorrow, will aim to do a few kms after every weight session each night.  Not sure how I'll keep up though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 02, 2020, 04:19:48 AM
Holy shit man, my goal is to run 15km weekly (three 5k runs each week) come October and then slowly raise the bar. 200km a month sounds insane.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 02, 2020, 04:56:27 AM
Holy shit man, my goal is to run 15km weekly (three 5k runs each week) come October and then slowly raise the bar. 200km a month sounds insane.

Give it time and experience my friend.  He's been running a long time; you just got off the couch.  :lol

So here's how fickle the body can be.  Two weeks ago, I weighed in below 180 for the first time in over a year, and 14.2% BF. Last week, 183.8 / 14.6.  WTF?  I wasn't too flustered, as again - I'm more focused on how I feel and what I see in the mirror.  This morning, back under 180 and 14.2% - and this was a pretty shit week for exercising and diet.  After losing our dog, I didn't any exercise for 4 days, and ate/drank more than usual.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 05:10:57 AM
Holy shit man, my goal is to run 15km weekly (three 5k runs each week) come October and then slowly raise the bar. 200km a month sounds insane.

I'm sorry if me posting after yours was to try and show off or make out what you are doing is inferior or anything Ruslan.  Nothing like that at all mate.  It's taken me a couple of years now to do the distances I am doing.  It's been a long consistent challenge.  I started being able to do less than 100m without almost dying. 

What you are doing is awesome.  Just keep going and focus on one day and one run at a time.  And you'll get there.  Consistency is indeed the key here.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 05:12:23 AM
Holy shit man, my goal is to run 15km weekly (three 5k runs each week) come October and then slowly raise the bar. 200km a month sounds insane.

This is still a solid effort.  If you can do this by October, that's a brilliant, briliant effort.  Took me fucking a lot longer.  But I avoid all physical activity until I was like 28.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 05:14:37 AM
Holy shit man, my goal is to run 15km weekly (three 5k runs each week) come October and then slowly raise the bar. 200km a month sounds insane.

Give it time and experience my friend.  He's been running a long time; you just got off the couch.  :lol

So here's how fickle the body can be.  Two weeks ago, I weighed in below 180 for the first time in over a year, and 14.2% BF. Last week, 183.8 / 14.6.  WTF?  I wasn't too flustered, as again - I'm more focused on how I feel and what I see in the mirror.  This morning, back under 180 and 14.2% - and this was a pretty shit week for exercising and diet.  After putting losing our dog, I didn't any exercise for 4 days, and ate/drank more than usual.

Sometimes the more you do, the body seems to stress itself and hold on to everything possible.  Once you let go once in a while it seems to release what should have come off with all teh good eating and exercising.

Sorry to hear about your dog mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on August 02, 2020, 05:51:24 AM
Sorry to hear about your dog Chad
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 02, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
Holy shit man, my goal is to run 15km weekly (three 5k runs each week) come October and then slowly raise the bar. 200km a month sounds insane.

I'm sorry if me posting after yours was to try and show off or make out what you are doing is inferior or anything Ruslan.  Nothing like that at all mate.  It's taken me a couple of years now to do the distances I am doing.  It's been a long consistent challenge.  I started being able to do less than 100m without almost dying. 

What you are doing is awesome.  Just keep going and focus on one day and one run at a time.  And you'll get there.  Consistency is indeed the key here.

Not at all man. I just shared that because I'm so excited to keep doing it. I honestly can't wait for the next running day. It's been a blast so far and I hope it stays this way. I've got a lot of running friends on FB and it's always very inspiring to see their posts about how they ran 10k here and there, and so it is to see your posts by the way. Whenever I see you post "hey, so like I decided I wanted to run a little bit and I ran 15km today easy, haven't even cracked a sweat you lads", I'm aspiring to be able to have a workout like you have. Small steps and all that. I'm sure I have a willpower to get there, and I will eventually get there, and even this thought makes me excited as hell. I hope I'll read this post in the next six months and I hope I will be proud of how far I've progressed.

But for now, I will just have to stick to it and hope it won't suck too much. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 03:21:38 PM
Awesome mate.  Yeah, if you have the want and determination to do it, step by step you'll get there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 02, 2020, 09:24:44 PM
Did a little pyramid of archer pushups, and db curls in a ‘death by’ format. Alternating each move, I started at 1 rep, went up to 10 in intervals of 1, then back down to 1. Rounds 1-5 were 30 seconds per set; rounds 6-10 were 60 seconds per set (and vice versa when cascading the # of reps back down to 1.  Curls were done with 25s

Ultimately, 100 reps of each (which is essentially 200 pushups since I was counting each side of the archer move as 1 rep).  My chest is already feeling it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 09:38:30 PM
Archer pushups?

For a fitness guy I really don't know much lingo lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 09:39:59 PM
Still enjoying my running.  Set a bit of a montly goal for myself based on the volume I've been doing on a weekly basis. This takes the the weekly average up a little bit on what I have been doing to make it more challening.  Looking at doing 200km (125 miles) in the month of August.  both yesterday and today did 12km each day, so already the 2nd of August I'm up to 24km.  Never run back to back days of over 10kms but half the run today was on par with record time but the second half I fell flat.  See how I go tomorrow, will aim to do a few kms after every weight session each night.  Not sure how I'll keep up though.

I just worked out this morning that setting myself this random goal equates to an average of 6.5kms a day...........I'm a dodo.  24km in the first 2 days brings the average for the rest down to 6kms a day........Fuck....
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 02, 2020, 09:59:20 PM
Archer pushups?

For a fitness guy I really don't know much lingo lol.

(https://www.globalbodyweighttraining.com/wp-content/uploads/Archer-Push-Up-Floor-Version.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 10:03:04 PM
WTF?  I think my shoulder will dislocate trying to do that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 03, 2020, 04:31:53 AM
WTF?  I think my shoulder will dislocate trying to do that.

It’s basically a stabilizing 1-armed push-up. My form wasn’t quite as good as the picture, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 03, 2020, 06:13:31 AM
I crossed the 60lbs lost threshold over the weekend (62.2*)  :metal Sitting at 237.6 as of this morning. I don't think I've been in the 230s since 2011 or so.

Looking at my tracker app, I did 144.8 miles last month. I'm pretty happy with that. Kind of sucks that it took a Pandemic to help me find that time, but I'll take it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 03, 2020, 07:20:46 AM
Bri... that's awesome!!!  Keep lapping that field of couch potatoes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
I crossed the 60lbs lost threshold over the weekend (62.2*)  :metal Sitting at 237.6 as of this morning. I don't think I've been in the 230s since 2011 or so.

Looking at my tracker app, I did 144.8 miles last month. I'm pretty happy with that. Kind of sucks that it took a Pandemic to help me find that time, but I'll take it.

That's awesome dude, keep it up. 

I took a bit of a break last week, had a mini vacation to the shore and just mostly lounged. Now it's Monday and time to get back into the daily work out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2020, 04:14:16 PM
I crossed the 60lbs lost threshold over the weekend (62.2*)  :metal Sitting at 237.6 as of this morning. I don't think I've been in the 230s since 2011 or so.

Looking at my tracker app, I did 144.8 miles last month. I'm pretty happy with that. Kind of sucks that it took a Pandemic to help me find that time, but I'll take it.

Awesome effort mate.  Keep going lad!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 05:26:01 AM
Still enjoying my running.  Set a bit of a montly goal for myself based on the volume I've been doing on a weekly basis. This takes the the weekly average up a little bit on what I have been doing to make it more challening.  Looking at doing 200km (125 miles) in the month of August.  both yesterday and today did 12km each day, so already the 2nd of August I'm up to 24km.  Never run back to back days of over 10kms but half the run today was on par with record time but the second half I fell flat.  See how I go tomorrow, will aim to do a few kms after every weight session each night.  Not sure how I'll keep up though.

I just worked out this morning that setting myself this random goal equates to an average of 6.5kms a day...........I'm a dodo.  24km in the first 2 days brings the average for the rest down to 6kms a day........Fuck....

It's the 9th of August here and have completed 77kms.  This was a stupid, stupid, stupid idea.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2020, 05:50:20 AM
Still enjoying my running.  Set a bit of a montly goal for myself based on the volume I've been doing on a weekly basis. This takes the the weekly average up a little bit on what I have been doing to make it more challening.  Looking at doing 200km (125 miles) in the month of August.  both yesterday and today did 12km each day, so already the 2nd of August I'm up to 24km.  Never run back to back days of over 10kms but half the run today was on par with record time but the second half I fell flat.  See how I go tomorrow, will aim to do a few kms after every weight session each night.  Not sure how I'll keep up though.

I just worked out this morning that setting myself this random goal equates to an average of 6.5kms a day...........I'm a dodo.  24km in the first 2 days brings the average for the rest down to 6kms a day........Fuck....

It's the 9th of August here and have completed 77kms.  This was a stupid, stupid, stupid idea.

You seem to be on pace.  30% of the way thru the month, and you're 38.5% of the way to your goal.

Is it stupid because you're dying already??
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 09, 2020, 06:09:54 AM
I went kayaking yesterday. A friend and i started one town up river and paddled to the boat launch by my house on the east end of our city. 48km and 6hrs on the water. I'm not sure my upper body has ever been this trashed before
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2020, 06:21:14 AM
I went kayaking yesterday. A friend and i started one town up river and paddled to the boat launch by my house on the east end of our city. 48km and 6hrs on the water. I'm not sure my upper body has ever been this trashed before

Holy crap man!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:19:05 PM
Still enjoying my running.  Set a bit of a montly goal for myself based on the volume I've been doing on a weekly basis. This takes the the weekly average up a little bit on what I have been doing to make it more challening.  Looking at doing 200km (125 miles) in the month of August.  both yesterday and today did 12km each day, so already the 2nd of August I'm up to 24km.  Never run back to back days of over 10kms but half the run today was on par with record time but the second half I fell flat.  See how I go tomorrow, will aim to do a few kms after every weight session each night.  Not sure how I'll keep up though.

I just worked out this morning that setting myself this random goal equates to an average of 6.5kms a day...........I'm a dodo.  24km in the first 2 days brings the average for the rest down to 6kms a day........Fuck....

It's the 9th of August here and have completed 77kms.  This was a stupid, stupid, stupid idea.

You seem to be on pace.  30% of the way thru the month, and you're 38.5% of the way to your goal.

Is it stupid because you're dying already??

Just woke up Monday morning and feel like I've been hit by a freight train.  My legs are just so damn sore it's not funny.  I'm normally fine with workout pains but this is crazy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:19:45 PM
I went kayaking yesterday. A friend and i started one town up river and paddled to the boat launch by my house on the east end of our city. 48km and 6hrs on the water. I'm not sure my upper body has ever been this trashed before

Holy hell, that's fucking epic.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 09, 2020, 05:37:57 PM
Damn guys, that is intense Wolf and Shredder
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2020, 12:21:07 AM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on August 10, 2020, 12:28:58 AM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

Maybe just try increasing the rock  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2020, 05:26:16 AM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

Maybe just try increasing the rock  :metal

You make a strong argument, I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 10, 2020, 08:38:56 AM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

That sucks, dude... I've got some health problems that have been hampering my ability to get out and do my cardio myself, but I also feel the zero motivation. A short break might do you wonders!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2020, 09:09:16 AM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

I feel like that is natural to have your ups and downs, and athletes aren't human  :lol I don't know how they do it, but I'm guessing it's because they've been training hardcore since being a kid at a high level and have gotten professional training from coaches and whatnot... and it's also their job if they are a professional athlete so that training is similar to just showing up to work in some way, but I'm sure they have their bouts with unmotivation like any other human. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2020, 04:55:30 PM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

That sucks, dude... I've got some health problems that have been hampering my ability to get out and do my cardio myself, but I also feel the zero motivation. A short break might do you wonders!

That sucks mate.  Motivation is a killer when it dips so heavily.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

I feel like that is natural to have your ups and downs, and athletes aren't human  :lol I don't know how they do it, but I'm guessing it's because they've been training hardcore since being a kid at a high level and have gotten professional training from coaches and whatnot... and it's also their job if they are a professional athlete so that training is similar to just showing up to work in some way, but I'm sure they have their bouts with unmotivation like any other human.

Yeah that's true.  It's amazing what some of these guys do day in, day out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2020, 08:06:03 AM
Why is there such a delay in soreness from your abs?  Like I did sit ups on Saturday but today they are finally sore  :lol

I biked 24 miles yesterday, that marks my single highest in a day.  Helps when I have long meetings that I just need to listen/watch so I could just hit the bike while attending those.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2020, 08:57:21 AM
Why is there such a delay in soreness from your abs?  Like I did sit ups on Saturday but today they are finally sore  :lol

I biked 24 miles yesterday, that marks my single highest in a day.  Helps when I have long meetings that I just need to listen/watch so I could just hit the bike while attending those.

Cuz you obviously worked them hard!  I don't find any particular body part to experience DOMS any differently.  What does accentuate DOMS is a lot of time under tension in the eccentric motion of any exercise.  Do a routine where each rep is 1 second up / 3 seconds down ... you'll be on fire for a couple days for sure.  I did a 1-up/2-down routine with tricep dips on Sunday, and I'm feeling it today.

Our company all-hands call is in 30 minutes - gonna do just what you mentioned Marc, and get on the bike to listen to it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 11, 2020, 09:50:35 AM
Finished Week 2 (6 reps of running for 1,5 minutes, walking for 2 minutes) of that couch to 5k program, so far so good. My legs definitely begin to feel it a little bit, especially during the rest days when I bike to work, but I think I'll be fine for Week 3 (2 reps of running 1,5 minutes, walking 1,5 minutes, running 3 minutes, walking 3 minutes). After that it's going to be difficult: Week 4 is total of 16 minutes of running and 5,5 minutes of walking. Well, I'll get there and try to do it anyway I suppose. :lol

I have felt the worse I've felt on a long time.  Physically sore but so lethargic and just downright depressed.  Been quiet at work and literally have zero motivation to do anything.  I'm shocked how much my mood is affected.  I guess this could be classed as overtraining? 

People do way more than me and athletes do hours more than me.  How the fuck do they do it lol.

That sucks, dude... I've got some health problems that have been hampering my ability to get out and do my cardio myself, but I also feel the zero motivation. A short break might do you wonders!

I feel fairly motivated to run, actually look forward to it the whole day, but I guess that's because it's still new and exciting for me. I hear you guys about zero motivation though, lately as weeks go I struggle to do anything productive. I think it's mostly because of what I was usually looking forward to (meeting with friends, concerts, traveling, board game nights, going to bars) isn't possible, or at least isn't safe enough. It was fine while we were in lockdown, but now we're back in the office, I don't know. For the last few years I was like "hey, I've got this awesome concert lined up 2 months from now on" and that made getting through these two months at work easier. And now that feeling is gone, it's just an endless cycle of work for five days, get straight back home, spend two more days not really socializing aside from a few Discord calls, rinse, repeat. I intended to create a DTF thread about my post-roulette listening and been postponing it for two weeks. I don't think I'll muster the will to do it today either.

I realize this is probably more for one of the Covid threads, but I think there was some mental fitness element involved in this thread, so I guess I just had to vent a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2020, 09:54:45 AM
I totally feel the same, the covid thing and having nothing to look forward to really kind of makes me less motivated in general (not necessarily specific to working out)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 11, 2020, 09:56:53 AM
You city folks getting sad about no concerts makes me laugh. I mean I feel ya and I can't wait for them to start up again, but welcome to my life.  :lol Hope everybody's funk clears up soon!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 11, 2020, 10:10:55 AM
I got to 69.9lbs lost this morning. Got a good 4.5 miles hike in this morning and am playing around of 9 after work. Hoping to enter the 220s tomorrow  :metal

Marc, there's always a 24-48 hour delay in my muscles feeling the workout.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2020, 10:20:43 AM
Marc, there's always a 24-48 hour delay in my muscles feeling the workout.

I usually feel the other body parts the next day maybe two, but abs for some reason seem to be a multi day lag.  My one friend agreed with me, was wondering if there was a science why the abs take longer but maybe it's not the same for everyone. 

welcome to my life.  :lol Hope everybody's funk clears up soon!

But that's your choice.  I mean, it's not just concerts but while it was fairly small, my social life now is non existent.  I'm cool sticking to myself most of the time, but not really socializing at all really kind of has an affect after awhile on me. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 11, 2020, 10:26:03 AM
It's really not my choice, I get like maybe 3 metal concerts a year that come through my area (read: 3 hours north) that I'm interested in and then they have to occur on Friday-Sunday in order for me just to be able to get to the concert in time.  :lol Last year I literally only went to Avantasia (and ProgPower).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2020, 10:30:48 AM
You've mentioned multiple times that concerts in general are not your thing and you enjoy being alone so that's where I'm coming from
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 11, 2020, 10:33:45 AM
You've mentioned multiple times that concerts in general are not your thing and you enjoy being alone so that's where I'm coming from

But I still like going to concerts, I just don't have nearly as many opportunities to go and I have to go hours away, that's why they're not my thing as much as they would otherwise be  :lol it's definitely not my choice to not go to a lot of concerts, if I lived near a bigger city and more overseas bands would play nearby I'd totally go more often. Although you're right, I dislike standing in a crowd like we're packed in like sardines, that's easily the worst part of concerts. I love being alone but I love the thrill and energy of a live show from my favorite artists :3 For me personally the cost of concerts and how far away is why I say I don't like them as much as I otherwise might. Although with a pandemic I don't know if I'll even go to a show after it's safe to go. Ugh!

But yeah, if you're used to going to them all the time, then this year has been a massive bummer. Might be fun to think about all the money you've saved on tickets and merch though yeah? Maybe?  :biggrin:

Re: exercise, I need to find a way to put a wire on my wireless earbuds so I don't risk dropping them out of my ear when I'm running. It's starting to really annoy me haha
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 11, 2020, 10:42:23 AM
Concerts weren't my point though, just an example I guess. It's just, imagine (or not if it's the same for you) there are a couple of things you're really passionate about which always end up highlights of your year, and now they're gone. I know entertainment is non-essential but life has just kind of become a slog for me right now aside from a couple of things.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 11, 2020, 10:42:47 AM
Tell me about it, man. I totally understand. Am I giving off the impression I don't? I really hope not. I'll zip it  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2020, 10:53:09 AM

Re: exercise, I need to find a way to put a wire on my wireless earbuds so I don't risk dropping them out of my ear when I'm running. It's starting to really annoy me haha

Get better tips.  I like Comply memory foam tips - they're similar to foam-tip earplugs.  100% seal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 11, 2020, 10:54:22 AM

Re: exercise, I need to find a way to put a wire on my wireless earbuds so I don't risk dropping them out of my ear when I'm running. It's starting to really annoy me haha

Get better tips.  I like Comply memory foam tips - they're similar to foam-tip earplugs.  100% seal.

Mine came with a few different sets of tips, so I should probably try switching them out. I didn't know you could buy special memory foam tips. That's awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2020, 10:58:09 AM

Re: exercise, I need to find a way to put a wire on my wireless earbuds so I don't risk dropping them out of my ear when I'm running. It's starting to really annoy me haha

Get better tips.  I like Comply memory foam tips - they're similar to foam-tip earplugs.  100% seal.

Mine came with a few different sets of tips, so I should probably try switching them out. I didn't know you could buy special memory foam tips. That's awesome!

The tricky part is finding the right model so that the connection to the actual ear-bud is correct.  If/when you look up the Comply tips, you'll note the connector is a hard plastic "shell" so not all tips fit any/all earbuds.  Looks like their listings on Amazon give a pretty comprehensive compatibility chart.  I bought a set once that did not fit with my earbuds.  :angry:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2020, 03:37:36 PM
Concerts weren't my point though, just an example I guess. It's just, imagine (or not if it's the same for you) there are a couple of things you're really passionate about which always end up highlights of your year, and now they're gone. I know entertainment is non-essential but life has just kind of become a slog for me right now aside from a couple of things.

I hear you.  It's the little things in life that keep you going through the slog day in day out.  I have zero social life, I've always been a worker and catching up with people to just shoot the breeze and whatnot just doesn't interest me.  I'm pretty cold in that respect but me and the misses not being able to get away for our yearly interstate trip during the winter is just brutal.  That one week away makes the whole year of working around the clock totally worth it.  Knowing that we have to work through it and not knowing if we will get the opportunity again next year is mentally taxing.

With how I feel, I couldn't imagine how really social people would be coping with this.  It must be borderline torture for some.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2020, 05:43:53 PM
With how I feel, I couldn't imagine how really social people would be coping with this.  It must be borderline torture for some.

Good point.  I think a lot of us here are somewhat introverts and the fact it hits us hard kind of makes me wonder about the people this hurts the most.  As much as I feel a bit depressed about the current situation, at the end of the day, I have my health and I have a job.  I have it better than a lot of folks in reality.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2020, 04:37:23 AM
With how I feel, I couldn't imagine how really social people would be coping with this.  It must be borderline torture for some.

Good point.  I think a lot of us here are somewhat introverts and the fact it hits us hard kind of makes me wonder about the people this hurts the most.  As much as I feel a bit depressed about the current situation, at the end of the day, I have my health and I have a job.  I have it better than a lot of folks in reality.

I had good perspective before, but it's increased tenfold.  Even though I'm an unfriendly prick who hates most people I come in contact with haha.  The lack of perspective people have during this whole situation makes me even more ashamed and depressed.  We really are a fucked up arrogant, pathetic race.  It makes work tougher.  I mean people complaining about the dumbest shit that means nothing in life just gets my back up.  Again, lack of perspective.  I need a holiday, that's right, can't go.  And the cycle continues.  But considering others and how they are doing, I'm doing fucking fine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on August 13, 2020, 07:34:14 AM
What scale do you guys use? My fitbit scale died after 5 years and I want get something new. I just need something with weight and bf%. I know bf% can vary wildly but I'd still like to track it to see if I'm trending downwards.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 08:27:40 AM
What scale do you guys use? My fitbit scale died after 5 years and I want get something new. I just need something with weight and bf%. I know bf% can vary wildly but I'd still like to track it to see if I'm trending downwards.

I use Renpho.  Syncs/tracks a bunch of data points with an app, and has a rechargeable battery.  Zero complaints.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NK8LBPC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 13, 2020, 10:25:11 AM
I just use a standard digital scale from Walmart
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 11:10:44 AM
Tonight, I'm gonna take another crack at that push/pull routine I referenced a while back. Hopefully the DOMS isn't as bad.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 13, 2020, 04:24:36 PM
I tried implementing some of the Athlean technique. The grip and 'pull your hands together' advice is helping a bit, but my bar is too low to go rigid in a comfortable way. For me to do proper extended pull-ups i need to lift my feet about 5-6 inches, so I've always done the cross leg move (which Jeff C. specifically points out as awful in his video lol)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 05:02:08 PM
Same here.  My bar is bolted into my ceiling/floor joists, so it's at least higher than a doorway (how I used to do it).  Back then, I practically could be on my knees and reach my pullup bar!  Current setup, I can't have to extend my legs out at about a 30o angle.  That's the only way I can keep everything tense.  It does help more than a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on August 13, 2020, 05:37:11 PM
What scale do you guys use? My fitbit scale died after 5 years and I want get something new. I just need something with weight and bf%. I know bf% can vary wildly but I'd still like to track it to see if I'm trending downwards.

I use Renpho.  Syncs/tracks a bunch of data points with an app, and has a rechargeable battery.  Zero complaints.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NK8LBPC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fantastic price. Ordered.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 06:03:48 PM
Probably even a better price on amazon.COM.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on August 13, 2020, 06:08:25 PM
yea lol, paid $34 for the scale
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: H2 on August 13, 2020, 06:27:50 PM
Has anyone used Beachbody on demand? They've got Insanity, P90x, and a bunch of other great programs. Great for a time like this, and very efficient yet effective workouts. I'm working through Insanity these days, probably work through the various P90x programs after that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 09:17:46 PM
I own both P90X and Insanity, so no... no point in BBOD for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Heretic on August 14, 2020, 12:01:31 AM
Started a new PPL routine today, liking it thus far. It's pretty intensive, and each workout takes around 1hr45mins, so I'm enjoying it.

Also been running 3mi every other day for the past few months, trying to maintain some semblance of running fitness until our soccer league is allowed to resume.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: ReaperKK on August 16, 2020, 06:30:08 AM
What scale do you guys use? My fitbit scale died after 5 years and I want get something new. I just need something with weight and bf%. I know bf% can vary wildly but I'd still like to track it to see if I'm trending downwards.

I use Renpho.  Syncs/tracks a bunch of data points with an app, and has a rechargeable battery.  Zero complaints.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NK8LBPC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fantastic price. Ordered.

Thanks again for the recommendation, I got the scale yesterday and it works great.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 16, 2020, 06:37:33 AM
 :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Kotowboy on August 18, 2020, 07:20:48 AM
I went several weeks of being super healthy and doing a half marathon (walk) every day more or less.

But I didn't seem to lose one single lb.

Yes I am constantly reminded that muscle weighs more than fat...

But - how are you supposed to know if literally anything is happening if you're exercising like fuck and eating healthy for weeks and you can't see any changes ?

Ok my clothes are no tighter on me but apart from that I have nothing to show for it :(

...

maybe a touch more definition? I dunno...


If anyone is wondering - i'm 5 ft 7 (170cm) and around 12 stone 0 = 168 lb so i'm not really overweight.

And yes I know to ignore the fk out of the BMI because when i was 154lb it said I was overweight and I could clearly see in the mirror I was a stick.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 18, 2020, 07:30:19 AM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 07:36:40 AM
I went several weeks of being super healthy and doing a half marathon (walk) every day more or less.

But I didn't seem to lose one single lb.

Yes I am constantly reminded that muscle weighs more than fat...

But - how are you supposed to know if literally anything is happening if you're exercising like fuck and eating healthy for weeks and you can't see any changes ?

Ok my clothes are no tighter on me but apart from that I have nothing to show for it :(

...

maybe a touch more definition? I dunno...


If anyone is wondering - i'm 5 ft 7 (170cm) and around 12 stone 0 = 168 lb so i'm not really overweight.

And yes I know to ignore the fk out of the BMI because when i was 154lb it said I was overweight and I could clearly see in the mirror I was a stick.

You are not in a caloric defeceit.

The whole thing of people saying 'muscle weighs more than fat is bullshit.  If you are staying the same weight, you are eating around maintenance.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 07:38:18 AM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 18, 2020, 09:31:03 AM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit.

It's all sugar but the sugar in fruit is not like the sugar in a pack of Hostess snack cakes. I'm pretty sure you can eat a shitload of fruit every day and be perfectly OK. I eat avocados and bananas literally every day, apples almost every other day, and melons and berries all the time - all very very good for you. You should really think about adding some fruit into your diet, especially some citrus. I'm surprised you don't even eat bananas considering how hard you go on your cardio.

Obviously I'm not a nutritionist but I'm pretty certain you could technically eat 6 bananas every day and be okay and still lose weight as long as you've got the rest of your diet in check and aren't taking in sugars elsewhere. They might be one of the less healthy fruits out there 'cause of all that sugar but damn do they give me energy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 09:55:35 AM
By and large, it is simply a matter of math.  Burn more calories than you consume, and you'll lose mass.  However, don't discount the importance of the *kinds* of calories you're consuming, water intake, type of exercise etc...  All that will have a play on your metabolism and satiation.

Per my post a couple weeks back, the body is a fickle mistress.  I was up almost 4lbs last week.  I didn't eat horribly bad (it was jingle.kids' birthday in there, so there were a couple nights of cake and drinks), and I skipped one workout.  That in no way could have accounted for a 14,400 calorie surplus in those 7 days.

Whatever ... it's the gains in the workout room, and the look in the mirror that matters to me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 18, 2020, 10:06:42 AM
Berries are good for regular fruit consumption, but they have little sugar. I definitely eat fruit everyday, but usually just a single apple for a snack, and a banana that gets chopped up and added to my plain greek yogurt at breakfast. Occasionally I'll eat some of my kids' grapes or watermelon. Nutrition is one area where CrossFit is pretty bang on. Their eating philosophy: Meats and vegetables, seeds and nuts, some fruit, little starch, no sugar.

I agree that fruit sugar is significantly better than refined sugar, but you can easily go without it. As for the citrus fruit, you can get those nutrients in most other foods (you'd be surprised how much vitamin C is in your regular foods).

Wolf, I disagree about the fat vs. muscle weight being bullshit (well, slightly disagree). I'm basically walking evidence since my weight has been consistently between 195-200 lbs for about 3 years now, but I'm considerably more lean now than I was back in '17. However, you can definitely tell just by looking that I have more muscle and less fat than I did a few years back, so it's not at all a case of "I haven't lost any weight but I think I've put on muscle so everything is fine". I make a concerted effort to exchange the fat on my body and replace it with lean muscle , and it shows in the mirror. I also track my food, exercise and weight daily, so I'm never left wondering why I'm gaining or losing weight. It's pretty evident in the data.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 18, 2020, 10:08:18 AM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit.

Said the guy who eats ice creams and chocolate on weekends. :biggrin: I get most of my sugar (which isn't a lot) from the fruits/berries. It's sweet cherry season now and I'm an absolute sucker for these. Honeycrisp apples are also a godsend.

Weekly update: finished Week 3 of my running program, doing good so far. I don't think it's pushing me to my limits (so far) as much as steadily builds me up for longer runs. Next two weeks have the most drastic increase of running time though, according to the program, in 14 days (end of Week 5) I should be able to run 20 minutes without walking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 10:10:54 AM
I agree with Shredder.  I think the notion is BS for people that don't lift, and want some form of validation as to why they're gaining weight, but don't physically see or feel different.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 03:03:12 PM
I agree with Shredder.  I think the notion is BS for people that don't lift, and want some form of validation as to why they're gaining weight, but don't physically see or feel different.

This is where I was coming from.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit.

Said the guy who eats ice creams and chocolate on weekends. :biggrin: I get most of my sugar (which isn't a lot) from the fruits/berries. It's sweet cherry season now and I'm an absolute sucker for these. Honeycrisp apples are also a godsend.

Weekly update: finished Week 3 of my running program, doing good so far. I don't think it's pushing me to my limits (so far) as much as steadily builds me up for longer runs. Next two weeks have the most drastic increase of running time though, according to the program, in 14 days (end of Week 5) I should be able to run 20 minutes without walking.

I probably should specify.  I just don't like fruit, that's why I don't eat it mainly not because of it's sugar content.  I know it's healthy and all but people I think fall on fruit more when they are talking about eating healthy when vegetables are neglected.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 03:07:29 PM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit.

Said the guy who eats ice creams and chocolate on weekends. :biggrin: I get most of my sugar (which isn't a lot) from the fruits/berries. It's sweet cherry season now and I'm an absolute sucker for these. Honeycrisp apples are also a godsend.

Weekly update: finished Week 3 of my running program, doing good so far. I don't think it's pushing me to my limits (so far) as much as steadily builds me up for longer runs. Next two weeks have the most drastic increase of running time though, according to the program, in 14 days (end of Week 5) I should be able to run 20 minutes without walking.

I probably should specify.  I just don't like fruit, that's why I don't eat it mainly not because of it's sugar content.  I know it's healthy and all but people I think fall on fruit more when they are talking about eating healthy when vegetables are neglected.

Yeah, I mean... there's no such nutrition plan where anyone would call themselves a "Fruititarian".

That probably means something totally different!   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 03:08:30 PM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit.

It's all sugar but the sugar in fruit is not like the sugar in a pack of Hostess snack cakes. I'm pretty sure you can eat a shitload of fruit every day and be perfectly OK. I eat avocados and bananas literally every day, apples almost every other day, and melons and berries all the time - all very very good for you. You should really think about adding some fruit into your diet, especially some citrus. I'm surprised you don't even eat bananas considering how hard you go on your cardio.

Obviously I'm not a nutritionist but I'm pretty certain you could technically eat 6 bananas every day and be okay and still lose weight as long as you've got the rest of your diet in check and aren't taking in sugars elsewhere. They might be one of the less healthy fruits out there 'cause of all that sugar but damn do they give me energy.

As Chad said, it's all calories and simple maths.

And I eat spinach and broccoli everyday, so my vitamin c levels are fine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 03:09:20 PM
Are you creating a big enough calorie deficit in your diet? AKA, are you using more calories than you're consuming?  You can eat healthy and still consume more calories than you're burning, especially if you're putting meats and cheese in salads and stuff. You don't seem out of shape at all, so even given the mileage you're doing, your body might not be working all that hard, especially if your heart is in a good shape. I remember a buddy of mine complaining that he was eating tons of fruit and not losing any weight. The dude was eating six bananas at a time. That's like 700 calories  :lol

People overestimate the healthiness of fruit.  It's all sugar.  I never eat fruit.

Said the guy who eats ice creams and chocolate on weekends. :biggrin: I get most of my sugar (which isn't a lot) from the fruits/berries. It's sweet cherry season now and I'm an absolute sucker for these. Honeycrisp apples are also a godsend.

Weekly update: finished Week 3 of my running program, doing good so far. I don't think it's pushing me to my limits (so far) as much as steadily builds me up for longer runs. Next two weeks have the most drastic increase of running time though, according to the program, in 14 days (end of Week 5) I should be able to run 20 minutes without walking.

I probably should specify.  I just don't like fruit, that's why I don't eat it mainly not because of it's sugar content.  I know it's healthy and all but people I think fall on fruit more when they are talking about eating healthy when vegetables are neglected.

Yeah, I mean... there's no such nutrition plan where anyone would call themselves a "Fruititarian".

That probably means something totally different!   :lol

There's a Tim joke in there somewhere isn't there?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 18, 2020, 03:16:52 PM
 :lol :lol

I love eating fruit and veggies for a meal. Last night I had a mix of grapes, melons, watermelon, apples, and I roasted some carrots, broccoli, and cauliflower. Had some baked beans on the side to get a little protein. Felt full but not bloated. Other than seafood and chicken, I don't eat much meat anymore. I miss steak so much but it's worth it for not feeling like death every time I eat it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 18, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
I'm so picky when it comes to fruits and veggies, but I have found the ones I enjoy the most and my fridge is filled with those.  Spinach, butter lettuce, scallions, onions, tomatoes, peppers (of all sorts), zucchini, strawberries and bananas are my goto.  I've been loving my progress to eat more natural and less packaged goods.  Even my gf noticed last time she was over "wow your fridge is so green". 

Prepping all my veggies for toppings for taco tuesday now actually.   :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 18, 2020, 03:44:07 PM
Wait, you have a girl again, Marc? Awesome!

Today I learned about 'butter lettuce.' Also, the onion is an underrated food, imo. Extremely popular and a staple food, but that's why it's underrated. Onions... mmmmm
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 18, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
Wait, you have a girl again, Marc? Awesome!

Today I learned about 'butter lettuce.'

Yea, it's a long story for lonely hearts probably. 

And butter lettuce is SOOOO good, but its more expensive for less so I almost never buy it but after our recent power outage, that was the only lettuce available that didn't go bad at the local super market so I fell in love with it again.

Also, I'm now a huge fan of Lidl.  They built one a year or so ago close by to me but I never went until recently and I really love their selection and prices.  I guess that's kind of off topic, but I'll be doing most of my grocery shopping there for now on I think.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Kotowboy on August 19, 2020, 05:00:12 AM
I don't see how I was eating too much. I was literally interspersing short sprints with my walks or running uphills til I was wheezing - and I did that several times a day for a few weeks.

I only ate when I needed to and even then it was like very small portions and a decent small home cooked meal in the evening - usually chicken and leaf salad stir fry.

I exercised so much I think I made myself unwell.

I hope i've just not reached that age where you have to murder yourself every day just to keep the weight down.

( i'm 42 in November btw ).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 19, 2020, 07:59:48 AM
I don't see how I was eating too much.

Do you track your food and calories? If not, then you don't actually know if you're overeating. The very first question in the "Why am I gaining/losing weight" flowchart is "Do you track your food?", followed closely by "if you do track food, do you weigh your food with a food scale?". Lots of people think they know how much they eat, but once they actually start tracking they soon realize how much more they eat than they think.


(https://i.imgur.com/4wew2lw.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 19, 2020, 08:02:27 AM
Also, on the importance of using a food scale to aid in a weight loss program...


(https://i.imgur.com/j4iNmFM.png)

...as you can see, this could add up really quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 19, 2020, 08:07:08 AM
I wish peanut butter and cheese were vegetables. I love/miss them so much.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 19, 2020, 08:20:41 AM
I wish peanut butter and cheese were vegetables. I love/miss them so much.

PB is my ultimate vice. I eat it by the spoonful, and it very much sabotages my efforts lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 19, 2020, 09:22:16 AM
I wish peanut butter and cheese were vegetables. I love/miss them so much.

PB is my ultimate vice. I eat it by the spoonful, and it very much sabotages my efforts lol.

I won't buy it otherwise I'm eating the spoonfuls as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Kotowboy on August 19, 2020, 09:22:26 AM
I don't see how I was eating too much.

Do you track your food and calories? If not, then you don't actually know if you're overeating. The very first question in the "Why am I gaining/losing weight" flowchart is "Do you track your food?", followed closely by "if you do track food, do you weigh your food with a food scale?". Lots of people think they know how much they eat, but once they actually start tracking they soon realize how much more they eat than they think.


(https://i.imgur.com/4wew2lw.png)

No but I know i'm not overeating as I find eating a chore and literally only eat when i'm about to black out. Literally. Even then it's just enough to stop feeling dizzy.

Plus as I said I was exercising like crazy. I don't know how true it is - but I did read somewhere if you do too much strenuous exercise - your body does hold onto water and

other things in order to do repairs. So you need to rest a lot as well - which I wasn't doing. But I checked this morning and i've dropped like 3lb so something's happened.

---

Oh and I don't eat bread or cheese and very very rarely eat potatoes or pasta. I try and eat as much fruit and veg as I can depending on where I am.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
I wish peanut butter and cheese were vegetables. I love/miss them so much.

PB is my ultimate vice. I eat it by the spoonful, and it very much sabotages my efforts lol.

This.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 19, 2020, 02:18:34 PM
I wish peanut butter and cheese were vegetables. I love/miss them so much.

PB is my ultimate vice. I eat it by the spoonful, and it very much sabotages my efforts lol.

This.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/YR82LX0JX6UvYRytLl/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 22, 2020, 07:16:37 AM
Holy hell... Just did a full deck of cards workout first thing this Saturday morning. Health issues have kept me from doing what I want to do so I was amazed I got through it, although halfway through my progress slowed significantly. Nothing like knocking out a super hard workout before anything else. Feeling really good now, physically and mentally. Now it's time to hit the track, then make a late breakfast... maybe lunch.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2020, 07:27:33 AM
What movements?  I love deck o cards workouts. I’ve got an app on my phone, and have setup about a dozen different routines.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 22, 2020, 07:51:42 AM
What movements?  I love deck o cards workouts. I’ve got an app on my phone, and have setup about a dozen different routines.

I never even thought about looking for an app for this. Gonna look into that, sounds exactly like something I need. For this one I kept it basic 'cause it's been a while: sit-ups, squats, push ups, and burpees. I also made aces = 14 instead of 1, which was a real kick in the nuts when I kept pulling out kings and aces throughout the first half of the deck.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2020, 09:22:47 AM
No shit. I also make aces 14. Pulling out 2 or more face cards in a row kills me.  Or multiple of the burpee suit!  I’m gonna do one right now... out in the 85F heat. Gonna make me sweat!,
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 22, 2020, 09:46:31 AM
No shit. I also make aces 14. Pulling out 2 or more face cards in a row kills me.  Or multiple of the burpee suit!  I’m gonna do one right now... out in the 85F heat. Gonna make me sweat!,

LOL. At one point I drew situps 3 times in a row... queen, ace, 8. Profanities were thrown. God I hate them.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 22, 2020, 11:14:28 AM
No shit. I also make aces 14. Pulling out 2 or more face cards in a row kills me.  Or multiple of the burpee suit!  I’m gonna do one right now... out in the 85F heat. Gonna make me sweat!,

LOL. At one point I drew situps 3 times in a row... queen, ace, 8. Profanities were thrown. God I hate them.

Sit ups are my 'rest' cards lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2020, 11:26:27 AM
No shit. I also make aces 14. Pulling out 2 or more face cards in a row kills me.  Or multiple of the burpee suit!  I’m gonna do one right now... out in the 85F heat. Gonna make me sweat!,

LOL. At one point I drew situps 3 times in a row... queen, ace, 8. Profanities were thrown. God I hate them.

Sit ups are my 'rest' cards lol


Same!  I'll run situps suit no problem.  It's when I get K-6-J of Burpees, Or 5 clubs in a row, when clubs are power-jumps that has me shouting "random, my ass!" at my phone. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 23, 2020, 01:07:19 AM
Felt so good that I skipped rest day today and ran two days in a row. With that, week 4 is done and I'm back on schedule. Week 5 begins on Tuesday, and barring some unexpected trauma, I definitely feel I can do the whole thing now. I really enjoy it, too.

On that note, I recently ordered a bunch of t-shirts along with the Haken's new album pre-order, and there was a sale in the shop where they offered you 3 t-shirts for about $8. The choice was very limited so I ended up getting Von Hertzen Brothers medium sized shirt, while the rest of the shirts were large. They arrived this week and surprisingly, the medium one fits me the best. Before I started the whole losing weight thing, I always got the XL ones. I gave some of them to my dad now. :lol

It's encouraging to see progress.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 05:06:55 AM
Good stuff Ruslan.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 05:12:13 AM
My running challenge has been one of the most difficult things I've ever done.  I have 9 days left and 58km to go.  The last fortnight, my right ankle has been fucked.  I think it's just from overuse but my 12km run today was excruciating from the first step.  I'm not sure what's going on.  Everything is just so super tight that it's restricting movement and can't flex my ankle without extreme pain or there's a small possibility I may have some sort of minute fracture or something in my foot, I dunno.  Been stretching and rolling, but basically I'm just going to keep going and get it done.  There's a point on the shin that's sore to touch.  I probably should research shin splints and other possibly solutions but I couldn't be fucked, I'll just work though it.

I have absolutely nothing to prove and it's not like I've advertised it, it's just a personal challenge I set myself and because I decided to do it, I HAVE to complete it, at all costs.  Surely I wouldn't be able to run on a hairline break or something so I'm thinking it's just muscular.  My speed is definitely slower though. 

Also, if anyone needs inspiration in relation to their workout and their goals, just watch some David Goggins vids on youtube.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2020, 07:36:56 AM
Just be careful not to push it Kade. I know you want to accomplish personal goals but if the pain is that bad you might have to dial it back and do it another time. Your running is impressive
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2020, 08:01:46 AM
Just be careful not to push it Kade. I know you want to accomplish personal goals but if the pain is that bad you might have to dial it back and do it another time. Your running is impressive

This so much man.... you don't want to injure yourself (there's a difference between pain and injury, and it sounds like you're into the injury territory.   Don't risk short term problems, or worse - long term problems.  I always remembered a sign at a gym I went to in my 20s - build the body, not the ego.  What your doing is tantamount to pushing heavy weights around with shit form, risking injury.  There's a difference between quitting, and conceding or accepting defeat.  This goal seems like it was not reasonably attainable.  "at all costs" is not a wise mind-set.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 02:08:06 PM
Thanks lads.  Will be careful.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2020, 06:07:56 PM
Thanks lads.  Will be careful.

No you won’t.  :lol  You’re a dumbass stubborn SOB. You’re gonna hit those final 58 KMs like there’s no tomorrow.   ;D

Then be in pain for months.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 23, 2020, 10:32:35 PM
Thanks lads.  Will be careful.

No you won’t.  :lol  You’re a dumbass stubborn SOB. You’re gonna hit those final 58 KMs like there’s no tomorrow.   ;D

Then be in pain for months.  ;)

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on August 24, 2020, 12:17:44 AM
Kade, Chad mentioned the word “Tantamount “.....that means business.....he also mentioned a gym he was a part of in the 90’s.........listen to Chad, please dial it down and take it easy.....no injuries, take your time, listen to WASP, watch Seinfeld, and don’t get injured please!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2020, 12:40:03 AM
Thanks lads.  Will be careful.

No you won’t.  :lol  You’re a dumbass stubborn SOB. You’re gonna hit those final 58 KMs like there’s no tomorrow.   ;D

Then be in pain for months.  ;)

I'd say I'm complete fucking moron truthfully.  :lol

My foot is pretty sore today so I am actually leaning towards letting this one go at this stage.  You are right though.  I'll try to the death!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: H2 on August 24, 2020, 03:54:16 AM
Wrapping up Insanity month 1 pretty soon, and I've been following their nutrition guide for fun. Easy to fit everything in the schedule due to quarantine. Getting good results.

I was thinking about running P90X next, then Insanity Asylum, then P90X2. Anyone have any experience with those programs?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2020, 05:44:13 AM
Soooooo......I may or may not have done a 7km run tonight in the gym.  ;D  I wrapped the fuck out of that ankle!  It was a nice moderate pace to what I'm use to and pulled up not too bad.  I'm being careful lads I promise.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Kotowboy on August 24, 2020, 06:05:49 AM
Well i've dropped a few lbs below 12 stone ( 168 lb ) so i'm happy.

I've stopped overdoing the exercise and have just been working more hours...Plus drinking pints of water at work...

Seems to be helping.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CERQIotnY2b/  This was taken this morning. :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2020, 07:57:21 AM
Soooooo......I may or may not have done a 7km run tonight in the gym.  ;D  I wrapped the fuck out of that ankle!  It was a nice moderate pace to what I'm use to and pulled up not too bad.  I'm being careful lads I promise.

Good... that's a step in the right direction.  :neverusethis:

@H... yeah, I've done P90x many times.  Thoroughly enjoy it, though after doing the program by following the vids 4 times, I'm kinda sick of Tony's voice - and know the dialogue verbatim.  I still use the vid for Yoga-X, but otherwise, I just have a workout log that has the movements programmed in to them.  I do very much enjoy it, and might give another go at it in the winter.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Nick on August 24, 2020, 09:39:20 AM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 24, 2020, 09:56:59 AM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.
Great that you got started back on the healthy living track. Nutrition is the best starting point, too, since it makes up the base of the health and fitness pyramid. Look forward to hearing about your progress as someone who also went from 280 in high school, down to 175 in university, and back up as high as 250 again before getting my shit together.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 24, 2020, 10:00:24 AM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.

nice, keep it up.  And I agree, seeing some positive change is a huge reinforcement to keep going because you know the work you are putting in is showing in the results.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Nick on August 24, 2020, 10:19:47 AM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.

nice, keep it up.  And I agree, seeing some positive change is a huge reinforcement to keep going because you know the work you are putting in is showing in the results.

I wouldn't even call it work, it's just restraint. I can probably get to 220 easily on basic restraint alone. Main thing is cutting back in HUGE amounts the amount of food I put away when home. I'm usually good at work, but nights and weekends are my main issue.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 24, 2020, 10:55:38 AM
Restraint is definitely work in my mind, that takes an awful lot of mental and even physical (stomach growls and feelings of hunger) to restrain, especially the first week of adjusting to the new eating routine. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2020, 03:27:14 PM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.

nice, keep it up.  And I agree, seeing some positive change is a huge reinforcement to keep going because you know the work you are putting in is showing in the results.

I wouldn't even call it work, it's just restraint. I can probably get to 220 easily on basic restraint alone. Main thing is cutting back in HUGE amounts the amount of food I put away when home. I'm usually good at work, but nights and weekends are my main issue.

Good work mate.

Nights and weekends are always super tough.  Finding alternate lower calorie options that still have good volume is key.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 24, 2020, 03:35:08 PM
I went way too hard with working the abs Saturday. Abs are my least favorite part of the body to work, so when I do them, I go hard, but... holy crap I couldn't walk totally upright last night, or today  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: H2 on August 25, 2020, 06:40:01 PM
You can do it, Nick!  :heart
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2020, 05:38:30 AM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.

nice, keep it up.  And I agree, seeing some positive change is a huge reinforcement to keep going because you know the work you are putting in is showing in the results.

I wouldn't even call it work, it's just restraint. I can probably get to 220 easily on basic restraint alone. Main thing is cutting back in HUGE amounts the amount of food I put away when home. I'm usually good at work, but nights and weekends are my main issue.

Nick, I'm not sure how on to it you are with your calories and if you know how much you are taking in, but if night time and weekends are your weakness (which I relate to) then when you get full control over your food and what you eat maybe look at fasting and calorie cycling.

I eat most my food at night but my intake through the day is low to allow for the extra feeding at night.  You really really need to know what you are doing though or else things could go very wrong.  Fasting is great but I prefer just a protein shake or two and some tuna and veg through the day.  Have done up to 20 hour fasting and while it's effective, overeating is a strong possibility which I found.  Low calorie through the day works better for me.

Calorie cycling could basically allow you to significantly cut your calories through the week and make up for them on the weekend yet still possibly be in a defeceit.  Very effective but again you need to be on point with your intake.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2020, 07:37:25 AM
I eat most my food at night but my intake through the day is low to allow for the extra feeding at night.

This has effectively become my eating habit as well.  Drinking a coffee in the morning and the afternoon has really help curb my appetite during the day and then I'll consume a full on meal for dinner and late night snack because I can't sleep if I'm hungry.  I really enjoy like fiber bars or similar for that late night snack as well, helps keep you full for the rest of the night and is low calorie. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 26, 2020, 07:55:16 AM
I eat most my food at night but my intake through the day is low to allow for the extra feeding at night.

This has effectively become my eating habit as well.  Drinking a coffee in the morning and the afternoon has really help curb my appetite during the day and then I'll consume a full on meal for dinner and late night snack because I can't sleep if I'm hungry.  I really enjoy like fiber bars or similar for that late night snack as well, helps keep you full for the rest of the night and is low calorie.

Lately I try to do all my eating before 5:30PM. I typically only allow myself 200 calories after that time unless I have company over or something. I haven't had tobacco of any kind in three days now and all I want to do is eat. It's terrible.

On a positive note, I hit 219 this morning which is a total of 81.2 pounds lost  :metal My clothes are starting to look like shit on me, and my XL wardrobe that I kept boxed up from 10 years ago is laughable. I can't believe the style I was into back then. I'm going to need all new clothes  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2020, 08:04:58 AM
 :lol thats a good problem
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on August 26, 2020, 08:13:18 AM
Chino,

Yeah, I've probably spent $2,000 this summer replacing out chunks of my wardrobe. A few weeks ago, I took three large boxes of XXL, XL, and some Large sized shirts (depending on the cut), suits, sweaters, and coats to Good Will. I've thrown away nearly as much in jeans and shorts that are larger than 34s. Like cramx3 says, it's been a good problem.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2020, 08:17:26 AM
Yea, I had the same issue last fall.  Actually still kind of do.  I never bought more shorts that fit, only have one pair I bought at the end of last summer but since this entire summer has been mostly at home, I never bought more shorts so I only wear the one pair when I do go out and at this point, it seems I won't be buying more shorts until next spring.  I also have maybe one formal outfit that fits, but I have no immediate need to dress up for anything either.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2020, 12:05:34 AM
I eat most my food at night but my intake through the day is low to allow for the extra feeding at night.

This has effectively become my eating habit as well.  Drinking a coffee in the morning and the afternoon has really help curb my appetite during the day and then I'll consume a full on meal for dinner and late night snack because I can't sleep if I'm hungry.  I really enjoy like fiber bars or similar for that late night snack as well, helps keep you full for the rest of the night and is low calorie.

Lately I try to do all my eating before 5:30PM. I typically only allow myself 200 calories after that time unless I have company over or something. I haven't had tobacco of any kind in three days now and all I want to do is eat. It's terrible.

On a positive note, I hit 219 this morning which is a total of 81.2 pounds lost  :metal My clothes are starting to look like shit on me, and my XL wardrobe that I kept boxed up from 10 years ago is laughable. I can't believe the style I was into back then. I'm going to need all new clothes  :lol

Is that a preference thing with eating before 5.30pm?

Congrats on your success too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 27, 2020, 10:26:46 AM
Nick, I'm sure you can do it!

Hey Kade, how it's going for you? Only four days left until September and I was thinking about your 200km thing during today's run.

The biggest one for me so far, Week 5 Day 3 is coming up on Saturday. 20 minutes (~3.2km with my pace) of non-stop running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 27, 2020, 11:33:35 AM
I eat most my food at night but my intake through the day is low to allow for the extra feeding at night.

This has effectively become my eating habit as well.  Drinking a coffee in the morning and the afternoon has really help curb my appetite during the day and then I'll consume a full on meal for dinner and late night snack because I can't sleep if I'm hungry.  I really enjoy like fiber bars or similar for that late night snack as well, helps keep you full for the rest of the night and is low calorie.

Lately I try to do all my eating before 5:30PM. I typically only allow myself 200 calories after that time unless I have company over or something. I haven't had tobacco of any kind in three days now and all I want to do is eat. It's terrible.

On a positive note, I hit 219 this morning which is a total of 81.2 pounds lost  :metal My clothes are starting to look like shit on me, and my XL wardrobe that I kept boxed up from 10 years ago is laughable. I can't believe the style I was into back then. I'm going to need all new clothes  :lol

Is that a preference thing with eating before 5.30pm?

Congrats on your success too.

Thanks! I just find that I sleep sooo much better since I've started eating less late in the day. I feel like my body can just focus on sleeping rather than trying to convert food into turds. Also, I'm of the mind that stuff eaten later in the day doesn't get utilized like breakfast or lunch because there's a good bit of down time before the next physical activity.   

I could be entirely wrong and doing permanent damage for all I know. I wouldn't trust anything I say  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Nick on August 27, 2020, 12:03:13 PM
So 10+ years ago I went from 260lbs to 190 lbs in the span of about 10 months. And in the years since saw 260 again, and then finally on Aug. 16 I saw 270lbs for the first time.

Finally using that to break some bad habits. I'm getting a smidgen more exercise, but really I've just made major adjustments to my eating. Started that on Aug. 19.

Results this morning, Aug. 24, already down 8lbs to 262lbs. I know that rate won't continue for long, but it is majorly reinforcing to see that kind of positive change.

nice, keep it up.  And I agree, seeing some positive change is a huge reinforcement to keep going because you know the work you are putting in is showing in the results.

I wouldn't even call it work, it's just restraint. I can probably get to 220 easily on basic restraint alone. Main thing is cutting back in HUGE amounts the amount of food I put away when home. I'm usually good at work, but nights and weekends are my main issue.

Nick, I'm not sure how on to it you are with your calories and if you know how much you are taking in, but if night time and weekends are your weakness (which I relate to) then when you get full control over your food and what you eat maybe look at fasting and calorie cycling.

I eat most my food at night but my intake through the day is low to allow for the extra feeding at night.  You really really need to know what you are doing though or else things could go very wrong.  Fasting is great but I prefer just a protein shake or two and some tuna and veg through the day.  Have done up to 20 hour fasting and while it's effective, overeating is a strong possibility which I found.  Low calorie through the day works better for me.

Calorie cycling could basically allow you to significantly cut your calories through the week and make up for them on the weekend yet still possibly be in a defeceit.  Very effective but again you need to be on point with your intake.

Thank you for all the support everyone!

When it comes to specifics I'm finding right now I don't have to worry too much about it. My eating habits had gotten so bad that at least initially just pointing in the right direction was going to show positive results.

Going to go with a typical work day here:

-Only a few days ago I made a big (to me) sacrifice of cutting my morning Wawa stop from a chocolate milk and half pretzel to just the chocolate milk.
-For lunch I'm cutting out going out for lunch for the most part, or if I do will get something on the smaller side than I would normally. Most days I'll have a half cup of goldfish (I always keep a giant box at both my offices) and maybe a little snack or some iced tea at some point as well. Speaking of which I'm cutting down on the amount of Iced Tea and trying to swap in water more.
-After work is where the fun comes in, and where I do get a little more conscious of what's around the house and how hard it's hitting me. Depending on when I get home and when we're making dinner I might have a very small snack. Then dinner is usually good as we make HelloFresh and so portion size is controlled. Then between then and bed is where bar far the biggest change has been made. Instead of having a big snack, and another, and another, and maybe some more I've really cut down to one small snack and my big crutch, a freeze pop (50cal) or three.

Been good the last few days, now down 11lbs total to 258.8 this morning.

I've kinda been thinking about my goals and how hardcore I want to go and have a general game-plan for myself.
-First shed 20lbs on diet only, getting to 250lbs, easing up on my body when I start to exercise.
-Finally stick to a light daily exercise routine that helps get me 30 more lbs down to 220lbs.
-Assess from there. I know I got to 190lbs and that was great, but I want to see how realistic that is, as I'd like to find a weight that I think I can maintain long term. But we'll see how I feel if/when I get there. If I think the progress can naturally progress more, or if I can make more specific changes I can stick to at that time then I'll do it and see if I can go down and stay down more.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: cramx3 on August 27, 2020, 12:49:20 PM
Good plan, give yourself goals that you can achieve and re-assessing.  I, like you, didn't just go full into diet/exercise hardcore mode.  Started exactly the same, small diet changes, and then slowly incrementing exercise in.  You see the results and it encourages you to keep going. 

Or as The Situation told me "keep one upping yourself"
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 27, 2020, 02:10:24 PM
Couple pieces of nutrition advice hat were mini epiphanies to me.  One, it takes 20 mins for your brain to receive the signal from your stomach that you are ‘full’. So, cut portion size down dramatically (I cut mine by 1/3 when I first started losing weight); if you’re still hungry after the mea, wait 1/2 and hour, then have a small/healthy snack.  90% of the time, I never needed that snack

Two, people often confuse the feeling of hunger with the feeling of needing water. Water fills the stomach, which can/will be satiating. Also forces ya to drink more water, which jacks up he metabolism.

These are two “tricks” that helped me reduce caloric intake.

Bri, great job!  Can’t wait to hear/see ya hit 199

Nick! You too... good on ya for making those changes.  :tup

Run! Ruslan! Run!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 27, 2020, 06:35:54 PM
Long story short my diet has gone to hell this week. On the plus side, another deck of cards tonight. So much sweat. 20 cards left. Whew...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2020, 08:24:56 PM
Couple pieces of nutrition advice hat were mini epiphanies to me.  One, it takes 20 mins for your brain to receive the signal from your stomach that you are ‘full’. So, cut portion size down dramatically (I cut mine by 1/3 when I first started losing weight); if you’re still hungry after the mea, wait 1/2 and hour, then have a small/healthy snack.  90% of the time, I never needed that snack

Two, people often confuse the feeling of hunger with the feeling of needing water. Water fills the stomach, which can/will be satiating. Also forces ya to drink more water, which jacks up he metabolism.

These are two “tricks” that helped me reduce caloric intake.

Bri, great job!  Can’t wait to hear/see ya hit 199

Nick! You too... good on ya for making those changes.  :tup

Run! Ruslan! Run!!!

I never really bought in on the whole water increases metabolism thing.  I think if it is in fact true, it's over emphasized to make that much of a difference.  But that's my personal opinion.

I do try and at least drink 5-6 litres of water a day.  I do think it's beneficial to get at least a litre in upon waking.  It does hold off the initial hunger in the morning. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 27, 2020, 08:32:19 PM
When I lost my big chunk of weight in 2005, I could tell the days/weeks I wasn’t drinking enough water.

Also, lots of peer reviewed research and studies verify it.

Quote
Drinking 500 ml of water increased metabolic rate by 30%. The increase occurred within 10 min and reached a maximum after 30-40 min. <bunch or sciencey language> Thus, drinking 2 liters of water per day would augment energy expenditure by approximately 400 kJ.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14671205/

Not intending to be argumentative with you Kade, just pointing out there is lots of scientific evidence to back it up
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2020, 11:39:16 PM
I'm not arguing facts but I just don't buy into it because basically, we need water to survive, it's essential to life and hey, I said it's important, I drink 5-6 litres a day.  My point was people think by drinking more water they are doing enough instead of doing the hard work that needs to be done.  I don't mean you either mate, I mean the general population that are fat but keep saying they are losing weight and doing the right thing cause they are drinking a lot of water.  It's used as a cop out for some people that don't want to do the work.

BUT, yes a high water intake is essential.  But for weight loss I don't think burning 100 calories because of 2 litres of water consumption makes much difference.  People can eat 100 calories in 10 seconds.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 28, 2020, 05:10:24 AM
I'm not arguing facts but I just don't buy into it because basically, we need water to survive, it's essential to life and hey, I said it's important, I drink 5-6 litres a day.  My point was people think by drinking more water they are doing enough instead of doing the hard work that needs to be done.  I don't mean you either mate, I mean the general population that are fat but keep saying they are losing weight and doing the right thing cause they are drinking a lot of water.  It's used as a cop out for some people that don't want to do the work.

Gotchya... and agree with that fully.  It's one element to complement a total nutrition plan.

BUT, yes a high water intake is essential.  But for weight loss I don't think burning 100 calories because of 2 litres of water consumption makes much difference.  People can eat 100 calories in 10 seconds.

Agreed.  I look at is as part of a total exercise plan as well; if you (royal) can increase metabolic rate by 30%, then exercise for 30-60 minutes, it's gonna have an additive effect.  Do that every day for a month, and it just might equate to 2-3 lbs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on August 28, 2020, 06:01:46 AM
I've notice a sharp decline in the rate at which I'm losing weight. I'm sure it's part plateau, but I think water intake could be another component. It's gotten a lot cooler over the last two weeks and I've gone from drinking a gallon or more of water a day to maybe a half gallon at most. I'm not sweating anywhere near as much these days, and don't feel thirsty as often. I find myself having to literally force feed myself water, whereas a few weeks ago I couldn't get enough of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: The Walrus on August 28, 2020, 07:11:52 AM
I think more people attribute the weight loss to water replacing other sugary drinks like sodas and juices, and also making you feel 'full' despite not eating as much. I dunno. All I know is that water rocks and I chug a good 1 to 2 gallons of it every day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2020, 05:58:00 PM
I think more people attribute the weight loss to water replacing other sugary drinks like sodas and juices, and also making you feel 'full' despite not eating as much. I dunno. All I know is that water rocks and I chug a good 1 to 2 gallons of it every day.

That's the thinking I gravitate towards.  I've heard the whole drinking more water speeds metabolism etc quite a bit though In my time which frustrates me.

One has to be careful not to drink too much.  Too much can be just as detrimental as drinking too less.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2020, 12:48:18 AM
So yeah, just ran 3.2km in 20 minutes without walking/stopping. I feel I could have probably kept at it and do a full 5km as I felt really good, but I'm going to stick to the program for now. 4 more weeks to go.

Man, I guess I'm really doing it now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 29, 2020, 03:47:07 AM
So yeah, just ran 3.2km in 20 minutes without walking/stopping. I feel I could have probably kept at it and do a full 5km as I felt really good, but I'm going to stick to the program for now. 4 more weeks to go.

Man, I guess I'm really doing crushing it now.

Fix'd.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2020, 04:35:11 AM
So yeah, just ran 3.2km in 20 minutes without walking/stopping. I feel I could have probably kept at it and do a full 5km as I felt really good, but I'm going to stick to the program for now. 4 more weeks to go.

Man, I guess I'm really doing it now.

That's a great time for that distance.  If you can aim for 4km in the 20 minutes that's a really great pace.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: H2 on August 29, 2020, 06:38:08 PM
When do you guys work out usually? I'm torn between the afternoon 4pm and the early morning 7:30am timeslots. I work out in my apartment so I don't want to wake up the people downstairs with the early morning workout, but I think I do prefer it, personally.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 29, 2020, 07:37:35 PM
When do you guys work out usually? I'm torn between the afternoon 4pm and the early morning 7:30am timeslots. I work out in my apartment so I don't want to wake up the people downstairs with the early morning workout, but I think I do prefer it, personally.

I'll workout anytime, really. It usually depends on what else is going on that day with work and family. I sure won't let time of day dictate whether or not i exercise, even if it means being up at 5am for a session. Exercise is more important to me than all my hobbies, so i just make time for it.

If I could choose though, I'd probably say mornings around 9am if I'm riding, and evenings around 7 or 8 if I'm lifting
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2020, 03:34:09 AM
So yeah, just ran 3.2km in 20 minutes without walking/stopping. I feel I could have probably kept at it and do a full 5km as I felt really good, but I'm going to stick to the program for now. 4 more weeks to go.

Man, I guess I'm really doing it now.

That's a great time for that distance.  If you can aim for 4km in the 20 minutes that's a really great pace.

I plan to up my speed a bit but I want to get to 5km runs first before I do that. I'm really comfortable with my pace so far, once I can confidently run 5km I'll try to get a bit faster.

When do you guys work out usually? I'm torn between the afternoon 4pm and the early morning 7:30am timeslots. I work out in my apartment so I don't want to wake up the people downstairs with the early morning workout, but I think I do prefer it, personally.

6 PM on working days, I'd love to run in the mornings but I get up early as hell already (5 AM) so I can't do it; on weekends it's around 8-10 AM for me depending on how early I wake up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2020, 05:04:15 AM
200km in 30 days completed!

Time to give my poor ankle a couple of days off.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2020, 05:04:52 AM
When do you guys work out usually? I'm torn between the afternoon 4pm and the early morning 7:30am timeslots. I work out in my apartment so I don't want to wake up the people downstairs with the early morning workout, but I think I do prefer it, personally.

Go to the gym after work about 5:30pm.  Can't work out in the morning, just can't do it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2020, 05:41:04 AM
200km in 30 days completed!

Time to give my poor ankle a couple of days off.

Congrats man!  Hope the recovery for your ankle isn’t too long.

When do you guys work out usually? I'm torn between the afternoon 4pm and the early morning 7:30am timeslots. I work out in my apartment so I don't want to wake up the people downstairs with the early morning workout, but I think I do prefer it, personally.

I'll workout anytime, really. It usually depends on what else is going on that day with work and family. I sure won't let time of day dictate whether or not i exercise, even if it means being up at 5am for a session. Exercise is more important to me than all my hobbies, so i just make time for it.

If I could choose though, I'd probably say mornings around 9am if I'm riding, and evenings around 7 or 8 if I'm lifting

It’s like you’re in my head!  I’ll workout as early as 6am, or as late as 10pm. Doesn’t matter ... all depends on what’s going on with work and family.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2020, 05:44:53 AM
Thanks Chad.  A couple of days should be enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2020, 06:09:53 AM
Thanks Chad.  A couple of days should be enough.

Good... the it was just pain, and not an injury.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2020, 08:07:26 AM
Fucking midnight and can't sleep.  Seems to be a common symptom of over doing it, overtraining perhaps. Legs are going to hate me in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2020, 01:50:25 PM
200km in 30 days completed!

Time to give my poor ankle a couple of days off.

 :tup

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Chino on September 01, 2020, 08:42:14 AM
Chino,

Yeah, I've probably spent $2,000 this summer replacing out chunks of my wardrobe. A few weeks ago, I took three large boxes of XXL, XL, and some Large sized shirts (depending on the cut), suits, sweaters, and coats to Good Will. I've thrown away nearly as much in jeans and shorts that are larger than 34s. Like cramx3 says, it's been a good problem.

I made out like a bandit yesterday. I went to the mall and hit a few of the clothing stores. Their inventories are so fucked because of covid and they're trying to make room for the fall and winter lines. I got so much stuff on clearance. I bought 22 long/short sleeve t-shirts, three new hoodies, and four pairs of jeans for $210  :metal

I'm really glad I'm not in the office right now, because that wardrobe would be a pretty penny to replace, and there's a new RC car I have my eye on  :lol


I was thinking about returning to the office on my walk this morning and how much I'm dreading it. I've lost 65ish pounds since those people last saw me (hopefully 80+ by the time I actually return), and I'm really not looking forward to having 40+ coworkers make some kind of comment about it. I know none of them mean any disrespect by it, but I don't like being the center of attention. Also, while I'm proud of the progress I've made and the work I've put in, I'm not at all proud that I let myself get to the point where even after losing 83 pounds, I could lose another 30 and still be considered obese by medical standards. It's been a real mind fuck and very personal, and it's not something that I particularly want to shoot the shit about in casual conversation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: The Walrus on September 01, 2020, 08:43:23 AM
Just get a fat suit. Not only will they not talk to you, they'll be too uncomfortable to say "wow, you got fat!"  Except you're not fat!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Evermind on September 01, 2020, 09:52:04 AM
I was thinking about returning to the office on my walk this morning and how much I'm dreading it. I've lost 65ish pounds since those people last saw me (hopefully 80+ by the time I actually return), and I'm really not looking forward to having 40+ coworkers make some kind of comment about it.

"Oh hey Brian, have you got cancer or something?" - your coworkers when you return to the office, probably
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: Podaar on September 01, 2020, 02:10:44 PM
I was thinking about returning to the office on my walk this morning and how much I'm dreading it. I've lost 65ish pounds since those people last saw me (hopefully 80+ by the time I actually return), and I'm really not looking forward to having 40+ coworkers make some kind of comment about it. I know none of them mean any disrespect by it, but I don't like being the center of attention. Also, while I'm proud of the progress I've made and the work I've put in, I'm not at all proud that I let myself get to the point where even after losing 83 pounds, I could lose another 30 and still be considered obese by medical standards. It's been a real mind fuck and very personal, and it's not something that I particularly want to shoot the shit about in casual conversation.

Do what I do, when people ask me if I've lost weight. "No! Why did you think I was fat?"

Shuts 'em up every time.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2020, 02:26:06 PM
I was thinking about returning to the office on my walk this morning and how much I'm dreading it. I've lost 65ish pounds since those people last saw me (hopefully 80+ by the time I actually return), and I'm really not looking forward to having 40+ coworkers make some kind of comment about it. I know none of them mean any disrespect by it, but I don't like being the center of attention. Also, while I'm proud of the progress I've made and the work I've put in, I'm not at all proud that I let myself get to the point where even after losing 83 pounds, I could lose another 30 and still be considered obese by medical standards. It's been a real mind fuck and very personal, and it's not something that I particularly want to shoot the shit about in casual conversation.

I feel this so much brother.  Can relate to every word and would feel exactly the same as you.

I think you just have to try and go with it and just keep telling yourself that's it's positive.  No matter how uncomfortable it will make you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. How's it goin this week?
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2020, 03:23:11 PM
I was thinking about returning to the office on my walk this morning and how much I'm dreading it. I've lost 65ish pounds since those people last saw me (hopefully 80+ by the time I actually return), and I'm really not looking forward to having 40+ coworkers make some kind of comment about it.

"Oh hey Brian, have you got cancer or something?" - your coworkers when you return to the office, probably

Tell hem you’ve been in Chemo - THAT will change the conversation for sure!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 01, 2020, 09:51:16 PM
So yeah, just ran 3.2km in 20 minutes without walking/stopping. I feel I could have probably kept at it and do a full 5km as I felt really good, but I'm going to stick to the program for now. 4 more weeks to go.

Man, I guess I'm really doing it now.

Dude, I can't take a single hockey shift without fearing I'm going to have a respiratory episode. That's really awesome work.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 05, 2020, 01:20:57 AM
Thanks Nick! A hockey shift is a lot of effort in a short period of time while I guess running is a significantly lower amount of effort in a longer period of time.

Weekly update: week 6 is done! Just got back from a 3.7km (22 minutes) run. I just realized all the remaining days have no walking periods, it's all running from here on out. :lol Next week is 3 runs, 25 minutes each.

One thing I realized is how much stronger my legs became since I started this. I live on the fifth floor with no elevator and before this it was always a mild annoyance to climb up all the steps, now it's nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2020, 04:33:58 AM
Thanks Nick! A hockey shift is a lot of effort in a short period of time while I guess running is a significantly lower amount of effort in a longer period of time.

Weekly update: week 6 is done! Just got back from a 3.7km (22 minutes) run. I just realized all the remaining days have no walking periods, it's all running from here on out. :lol Next week is 3 runs, 25 minutes each.

One thing I realized is how much stronger my legs became since I started this. I live on the fifth floor with no elevator and before this it was always a mild annoyance to climb up all the steps, now it's nothing.

Remember to have a good stretching and rolling routine mate.  Keep going!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2020, 04:36:41 AM
My running has tapered off this week to focus on the weights which has been great.  Did a 5km treadmill run in 26.39 which is about par.  However I find a long treadmill run so much harder than being outside.  Seem to go much faster being outdoors.  Would do that in around 25 minutes.  Weird.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2020, 06:48:21 AM
Had a good week... weigh-in yesterday was 179.2lbs; 14.2%BF.  Every time I've gotten close to 14%, I jump back up the following week.  Gonna have a 'reward' and rest day today, then back at 'er tomorrow.

Looking to purchase a cable-pulley system so I can do some moves like tri pushdowns, lat pulldowns etc... properly.  Doing those moves with bands is ok, but I'd rather have consistent tension than the increase/decrease tension during the movement that comes with bands.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: kirksnosehair on September 11, 2020, 10:37:03 AM
Back in March when the gyms first shut down I got knocked off my daily routine and with the stress of the Covid situation -my mom is 77 and she lives with me- I started just eating shitty again and not exercising.  When the gyms closed down I remember because I weighed myself the last day I was at the gym and I was 174 lbs.  A little heavier than what's ideal for me (168 lbs. is my perfect weight), but still pretty good.


By July 4th I was back up to 195 lbs. and I had to start wearing bigger pants, but when my brother-in-law told me one Sunday morning as we were eating breakfast at a local diner, "you're getting fat, dude."   :lol   He doesn't beat around the bush much. 


That was enough to snap me out of it because I started walking 3 miles a day the next morning and a month later the gyms opened back up.  Now, after a summer of hard work, I'm back down to around 175.  Man, the older I get the slower it comes off, regardless of how hard I work. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2020, 05:49:40 AM
Back in March when the gyms first shut down I got knocked off my daily routine and with the stress of the Covid situation -my mom is 77 and she lives with me- I started just eating shitty again and not exercising.  When the gyms closed down I remember because I weighed myself the last day I was at the gym and I was 174 lbs.  A little heavier than what's ideal for me (168 lbs. is my perfect weight), but still pretty good.


By July 4th I was back up to 195 lbs. and I had to start wearing bigger pants, but when my brother-in-law told me one Sunday morning as we were eating breakfast at a local diner, "you're getting fat, dude."   :lol   He doesn't beat around the bush much. 


That was enough to snap me out of it because I started walking 3 miles a day the next morning and a month later the gyms opened back up.  Now, after a summer of hard work, I'm back down to around 175.  Man, the older I get the slower it comes off, regardless of how hard I work.

Well done dude.  You need people like that to tell you how it is sometimes.  Keep it up. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
Wolf, kirks brother sounds like Kramer and just blurts things out lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2020, 11:27:16 PM
Maybe Kirks brother needs to just stop talking.......from now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jjrock88 on September 13, 2020, 12:37:50 AM
Starting...............noooow
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2020, 02:18:46 AM
Weekly update: finished week 7 yesterday, three 4.2km (25 minutes) runs. Most people over the internet I saw agreed that weeks 4-5 were the most difficult; for me this week was the most difficult so far. It was raining on Tuesday, and during my commute home back from work I thought yeah, no way I'm running today, stupid rain. Then I came home and thought well, what the hell, I want to do this, might as well run, it'll probably be alright in the park, lots of trees blocking out the rain. Best decision I've made in a while, it was a great run all around. Thursday was just excruciating, I ran the first km and then it was really difficult to keep going for some reason. I finished that one but I thought of quitting this whole thing the entire time. :lol Yesterday was fantastic though. Overall I feel great but at the same time these runs aren't easy at all, and on the rest days I really feel it, even with all the stretching I do before and after runs.

Next week, three 28 minute runs and then, apparently, I'll be ready to run a 5km three times a week. Good times.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2020, 05:02:58 AM
That's awesome Ruslan!   :tup  I think we all know the feeling of just wanting to 'fuckit' and give up - on a program, or an individual workout.  Sometimes, finding the motivation to do it is the hardest part.  I know even when I don't have the drive or am not in the mood, I just force myself to start.  And then once ya get going, those endorphins kick in, and it feels good during and after.  There are still times we all skip a day (or three), but so long as we keep at it, progress is made.

I did legs on Thursday, and holy shitballs am I still sore this morning.  Yoga today just to do more of a recovery workout.  Now that the summer weather is over, not too many more chances to workout outside, so I'm gonna start my next program - Max Size.  The workouts are just 2 moves for 2 different body parts.  One move is 10 sets of 10; the other is 10 sets of 5.  Gonna fire that up starting next Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2020, 05:18:45 AM
Did a 21km run today. Time was 2 hours and 2 minutes so about 5 minutes 45 second a km.  Damn that was full on.  Didn't intend on it, I started slow and felt comfortable and just kept going.  Started pouring with rain halfway through, loved it.  Now to get the time under 2 hours.


Weekly update: finished week 7 yesterday, three 4.2km (25 minutes) runs. Most people over the internet I saw agreed that weeks 4-5 were the most difficult; for me this week was the most difficult so far. It was raining on Tuesday, and during my commute home back from work I thought yeah, no way I'm running today, stupid rain. Then I came home and thought well, what the hell, I want to do this, might as well run, it'll probably be alright in the park, lots of trees blocking out the rain. Best decision I've made in a while, it was a great run all around. Thursday was just excruciating, I ran the first km and then it was really difficult to keep going for some reason. I finished that one but I thought of quitting this whole thing the entire time. :lol Yesterday was fantastic though. Overall I feel great but at the same time these runs aren't easy at all, and on the rest days I really feel it, even with all the stretching I do before and after runs.

Next week, three 28 minute runs and then, apparently, I'll be ready to run a 5km three times a week. Good times.

Awesome mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2020, 06:10:31 AM
Great stuff, Kade!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jjrock88 on September 13, 2020, 09:02:20 AM
Impressive Kade
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 13, 2020, 10:14:57 AM
Good stuff all around fellas  :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: kirksnosehair on September 16, 2020, 12:41:01 PM
Wolf, kirks brother sounds like Kramer and just blurts things out lol


He's Kramer, but he's also Archie Bunker.  And he's 75 years old  :lol


You know that thing you're thinking but not daring to say?  He's thinking it too, and he's got no problem saying it.  When I ask him why he's so rude he says, "I'm 75, I'll be dead soon, fuck your feelings"  :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 19, 2020, 06:56:45 AM
I've seen a bunch of David Goggins motivation videos and man he's so good at pumping you up for hitting the gym.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 19, 2020, 10:58:52 AM
My journey from 270 hit a snag between 252-254. Just haven't been as disciplined the last week. So I decided I'd kickstart the exercise routine.

Not a huge gym fan to begin with, and it's just not practical for me to try on the way to, or back from work. And once I'm home the chances of me going back out to a gym are very close to zero. Not a huge fan of just going out to run, but that was an outside possibility. Thought a minute about a bit of cardio equipment at home, but the exercise I currently get (hockey), is already some cardio. So I decided weight training was the best thing for me and something I'm likely to do, went to reddit and some other places to look at the best kind of limited space home gym options. Finalized the setup last night if anyone is interested I'll get some pictures together, liking it so far.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 19, 2020, 11:26:55 AM
sure, or at least explain it if you dont want to send pics.  I'm similar to you, not a gym guy and definitely not going to be going back out after I get home from work.  My "gym" in my basement is very small, a bench that can change angles (but no bar), boflex selecttech dumbbells, and a small bike.  Takes up very little space and all can be folded and put away if needed.  ALso the bench and bike were super cheap, under $150 for both if I recall.  The dumbbells... not so much.  I think I paid like $300 or 400 like 10 years ago for them.  Definitely worth it though because they take up like no space and it ends up being a large set of dumbbells (ranges from 5- 52.5 pounds).  Only thing is you can't do any crazy lifting with them because they only go to 52.5 which I'm no where close to for many exercises but when you want to bench press, you got to go for reps.  Which, at the end of the day, also works for me as I don't have a spotter so I never go for max pounds, just like to up my reps and change the bench angles.  Which speaking of, I've lately been doing more weight training.  I kind of took a break for a couple weeks and was just biking, but this week I've been pushing myself a bit harder on both the bike and the weights.  Which speaking of, seems like a good time to head down to my basement gym now...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 19, 2020, 02:31:58 PM
.... which I just came up from. I’ve been meaning to take pics of my home setup here. I too have the selecttech dumbbells, but I have the set that goes to 90lbs.

Started the Max Size program from Atlean X just now. Incline dB (10 sets of 10) and Underhanded row (10 sets of 5j. Plus pushups to failure and horizontal pull-ups to failure. Loved it.

Quads and hammies tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 19, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
There's not much reason to take a pic of my set up, it doesn't look very interesting plus I have an extra couch in my basement that kind of is right inbetween my bike and my bench so it just looks stupid really.  Did a nice 20 mile bike ride today, no weights as my body is still sore from yesterdays lifting and sit ups. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: H2 on September 19, 2020, 06:48:10 PM
Insanity's brought my waist down from 32" to 29". It's like magic every time I get on it. Such great workouts. And I haven't even started month 2 yet...I think 28" will be my goal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 19, 2020, 08:06:28 PM
Here we go:

(https://wpapu.com/images/Gym01.jpg)

(https://wpapu.com/images/Gym02.jpg)

Just a cage, bench, and weight set thus far. I've been learning some different exercises and am now in the process of sorting what I want my normal routine to be, based on where the bar/bench have to be and ideally switching between upper body and lower body regularly.

That setup will definitely keep me happy while I get acquainted, but can already tell I'll want some more bar hooks and some weight holders.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: H2 on September 19, 2020, 09:09:05 PM
Whoa, that's awesome! Good thing to own during times like these. Now you don't even have to commute to a gym!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 20, 2020, 12:23:58 AM
Oh shit, apparently the last run this week is supposed to be full 5k in 30 minutes :lol Heading out for that now, I'll post later how it went.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 20, 2020, 01:26:35 AM
Final update: officially finished the program! Just ran my first 5 km ever in 28:15. Went great, best run I had this week.

So for those who are also running, what should I do next? I'm going to keep it at three 5k runs a week for a few weeks, after that I plan to gear up for 10 km over the next few months unless the winter will be exceptionally cold, but I'm also leaning towards doing an occasional 5k runs with a faster pace (I'd like to run it under 25 minutes eventually). Is that a sensible plan or not really?

I also guess I should get warmer clothes as it's usually around -10°C (~14F) in winter here.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2020, 04:36:15 AM
Hats a nice rig, Nick. I’m envious. How tall is that?

Ruslan.... can’t comment, as I hate running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 20, 2020, 04:47:50 AM
Final update: officially finished the program! Just ran my first 5 km ever in 28:15. Went great, best run I had this week.

So for those who are also running, what should I do next? I'm going to keep it at three 5k runs a week for a few weeks, after that I plan to gear up for 10 km over the next few months unless the winter will be exceptionally cold, but I'm also leaning towards doing an occasional 5k runs with a faster pace (I'd like to run it under 25 minutes eventually). Is that a sensible plan or not really?

I also guess I should get warmer clothes as it's usually around -10°C (~14F) in winter here.

Your progress is insane Ruslan.

To be honest, I personally haven't followed any running plans.  I just try and improve in as many different ways as possible.  One week I'll concentrate on speed and when I stall, I'll switch it up, do some distance running and maybe put the timer away.  I'll also work on intervals just to push the speed at a higher level, just to try and expand what I can do and get faster and fitter.  I log every run and the time if I time that, that way I can always look back and see what I may need to do.

But I'd do just what you said, keep trying to get faster but also add some longer distances in wihtout worrying too much about the clock.

Today was more of a speed day and clocked an 8km in 40 minutes 30 seconds.  For that distance, a PB by about 2 minutes.  I was fucked afterwards.  Even more buggered than the half marathon distance last week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 20, 2020, 04:56:11 AM
Final update: officially finished the program! Just ran my first 5 km ever in 28:15. Went great, best run I had this week.

So for those who are also running, what should I do next? I'm going to keep it at three 5k runs a week for a few weeks, after that I plan to gear up for 10 km over the next few months unless the winter will be exceptionally cold, but I'm also leaning towards doing an occasional 5k runs with a faster pace (I'd like to run it under 25 minutes eventually). Is that a sensible plan or not really?

I also guess I should get warmer clothes as it's usually around -10°C (~14F) in winter here.

Your progress is insane Ruslan.

To be honest, I personally haven't followed any running plans.  I just try and improve in as many different ways as possible.  One week I'll concentrate on speed and when I stall, I'll switch it up, do some distance running and maybe put the timer away.  I'll also work on intervals just to push the speed at a higher level, just to try and expand what I can do and get faster and fitter.  I log every run and the time if I time that, that way I can always look back and see what I may need to do.

But I'd do just what you said, keep trying to get faster but also add some longer distances in wihtout worrying too much about the clock.

Thanks man! Honestly I think two things that helped are 1) I lost ~13kg before attempting this, otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to do this at all, and 2) I already rode a bike on the first part of my commute to work, so I was a bit prepared for this. It's crazy how much I'm enjoying running. I used to do nothing on weekends because of how tired I was from the working week; well I'm still tired but I go for a run in the morning and then I just want to do stuff. Sitting idly is simply not an option anymore.

Today was more of a speed day and clocked an 8km in 40 minutes 30 seconds.  For that distance, a PB by about 2 minutes.  I was fucked afterwards.  Even more buggered than the half marathon distance last week.

That's the kind of pace I intend to aim for my 5k eventually, a kilometer in five minutes sounds good to me. Speed is not that important to me as I want to mostly work on the distance (I'd love to run a marathon eventually, but I'll settle for 10k for now), but I do want to improve my time in case I decide to do any parkruns after the Covid thing is over.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 20, 2020, 05:01:33 AM
Oh and by the way Kade, and I want to make it a separate post, you were one of two folks (the other one isn't here but he's on Facebook, I should write a message to him too) who inspired me to begin running. I saw your usual posts about running a few times and thought "hell, I should try that". I've been doing it for two months but I can already say I'll be doing it for many more months, this is the best thing I've discovered lately.

So in a way you made my life a bit better, thank you for this!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 20, 2020, 05:13:22 AM
Oh and by the way Kade, and I want to make it a separate post, you were one of two folks (the other one isn't here but he's on Facebook, I should write a message to him too) who inspired me to begin running. I saw your usual posts about running a few times and thought "hell, I should try that". I've been doing it for two months but I can already say I'll be doing it for many more months, this is the best thing I've discovered lately.

So in a way you made my life a bit better, thank you for this!

Mate, that means so much and you made my day.  I'm glad I could have offered some inspiration.  It's surprising how enjoyable it is.  Mentally, it has been a godsend and daily runs becomes part of my meditation and destress.  And I feel the same as you said above, being idle simply isn't an option anymore. 

Keep running mate, enjoy it and enjoy the headspace and clarity it brings.  That's what it did for me, puts me in a more positive, competitive headspace and clears my head.  It's a wonderful tool and there was no reason for my posts just like we all do, share what we have been doing to keep fit so glad it rubbed off.

5 minute kms I think while not pro time, is solid.  My fastest 4km is 19.16 so happy with the 8km time.  If you did some riding before, that explains why you are picking it up a lot quicker than I did, so that definitely helps.  I think it's a juggling act when working on time and distance, depends on how you feel.

One guy to youtube that I've been following is Nick Bare, he is a beast and has some great vids on his running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 20, 2020, 05:32:38 AM
Definitely not aiming for pro time, just want to have a decent time which for me 5 minute per km is. And yeah, you nailed it with this

That's what it did for me, puts me in a more positive, competitive headspace and clears my head.

because I always feel so much better after a run.

I'll check out this guy on YouTube you mentioned.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2020, 05:54:03 AM
Definitely not aiming for pro time, just want to have a decent time which for me 5 minute per km is. And yeah, you nailed it with this

That's what it did for me, puts me in a more positive, competitive headspace and clears my head.

because I always feel so much better after a run.


Endorphins BABY!

About to go get on the exercise bike, and continue to catch up on the UFO discography listen.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 20, 2020, 01:41:43 PM
Hats a nice rig, Nick. I’m envious. How tall is that?

Ruslan.... can’t comment, as I hate running.

I pretty much hate running for the sake of running as well.

83" tall, so good for doing pull-ups. That is when I can do pull-ups.  As is I can do 1, maybe, if it's the very first thing I do.

Floor dimensions are like 53"x49".
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 20, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
I get you guys that hate running.  I was one of those.  For me, I couldn't run a couple hundred metres without knocking up so it was simply the want to get better at it.  Once I became half decent was when I started to really enjoy it.  Seeing the progress always makes you enjoy something more too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Kotowboy on September 20, 2020, 02:39:08 PM
I don't run - but I DO run food at my job as a Holiday park Restaurant waiter.

On Saturday I did a 12 hour shift ( one hour break in the middle ) and was running food all day.

As a result of being back at work since August 1st - i've dropped 9lb  :D

Drinking pints of soda water whilst i'm in the kitchen can't hurt either.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 20, 2020, 09:04:07 PM
Alright, kinda nailed down a starting routine tonight, and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than myself can help tweak. Some of these items are going a little light (squat weight), while some I can't quite do yet (3x5 Inverted row), but it's meant to be a starting point of what I hope to be at soon as a complete regular workout.

Questions being should I be doing more exercises? More reps of the exercises I have? Pushing weight to the limit of what I can handle of each exercise?

1 Pull-up.
10 Sit-ups.
3x10 Bench press @ 80lbs (25ea)
20 Sit-ups.
3x10 Curls @ 60lbs (15ea)
3x10 Squats @ 70lbs (20ea)
3x5 Inverted row.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2020, 09:20:34 PM
Can’t say I’ve ever tried a full body split, so I don’t have much experience or feedback. I do note that you have no exercise for shoulders, tris, or hamstrings. I’d suggest skipping the single pull-up - use a chair or something to do assisted pull-ups if you want to keep that movement.  Doing a single rep of any movement won’t really do much - unless you’re a power-lifter.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 20, 2020, 10:20:13 PM
Can’t say I’ve ever tried a full body split, so I don’t have much experience or feedback. I do note that you have no exercise for shoulders, tris, or hamstrings. I’d suggest skipping the single pull-up - use a chair or something to do assisted pull-ups if you want to keep that movement.  Doing a single rep of any movement won’t really do much - unless you’re a power-lifter.

Well, to be fair the single pull-up is more a future thing. If I'm lucky I can do 1 now, but my hope is that with whatever the list has, more reps or weight will be added.

Any suggestions on exercises for the muscles you talked about? I will say I'm far less concerned with my legs, although I don't want to ignore them completely, years of volleyball and hockey combined with a natural build in their favor ends in me having massive legs, both in size and muscle, as compared to my body overall.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 20, 2020, 11:02:33 PM
Alright, kinda nailed down a starting routine tonight, and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than myself can help tweak. Some of these items are going a little light (squat weight), while some I can't quite do yet (3x5 Inverted row), but it's meant to be a starting point of what I hope to be at soon as a complete regular workout.

Questions being should I be doing more exercises? More reps of the exercises I have? Pushing weight to the limit of what I can handle of each exercise?

1 Pull-up.
10 Sit-ups.
3x10 Bench press @ 80lbs (25ea)
20 Sit-ups.
3x10 Curls @ 60lbs (15ea)
3x10 Squats @ 70lbs (20ea)
3x5 Inverted row.

Pretty much.  Use weight that you can still have good form with and train until failure.

For shoulders, overhead press is king.  Standing with a barbell, or sitting with dumbells I go to.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Kotowboy on September 20, 2020, 11:41:32 PM
11 Stone 7 lb this morning🇬🇧

That's 161 lb🇺🇸

:D

Now I just need to find out how to keep it off when i'm no longer at work after Nov 1
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 21, 2020, 05:11:38 AM
Kade's got it right ... OHP for shoulders.  Hamstrings - deadlift.  Proper form is imperative (Deadlift checklist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDzSR6bW10)).  Triceps, lying extensions (I prefer on an incline). Most here know I'm a big fan of Athlean-X, and will pimp his channel any chance I get.  Dude not only shows you proper form, but the 'why' as well.  His tagline is "putting the science back in sport"

He's got this one series of "Best <body part> dumbbell exercises"

Shoulders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxn0l7ejTbc)
Tris (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBVWO6ABwU)

As for what to do (more reps, weight)... depends on what you're training for.  Strength?  Size?  Power?  Different techniques provide different results.  Bottom line, you want to see progressive overload (https://youtu.be/d1yd-Oz7Rjo?t=212) (this guy gets pretty science-y, but it's very good information).  Whether that's more reps, more weight, more sets, decreased rest periods, more intensity... just push yourself to do more. 

Also, I was *so* envious of your cage, I reogranized my storage/furnace/workout room, to make room for this bad boy.

(http://www.homegyms101.com/images/marcy/mwm-7041/marcy-mwm-7041-1.jpg)

Now I just need to get some plates and a bar.  But (I suppose unsurprisingly) every fitness outlet I looked up, plates are on backorder.   :angry: :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2020, 05:35:16 AM
Deadlifts are just an all round brilliant exercise.  Heavy deadlifts work everything for me.  They are really the only exercise that gives me some DOMs in the hammies though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 21, 2020, 09:44:36 PM
Pretty much.  Use weight that you can still have good form with and train until failure.

For shoulders, overhead press is king.  Standing with a barbell, or sitting with dumbells I go to.

Kade's got it right ... OHP for shoulders.  Hamstrings - deadlift.  Proper form is imperative

As for what to do (more reps, weight)... depends on what you're training for.  Strength?  Size?  Power?  Different techniques provide different results.  Bottom line, you want to see progressive overload (https://youtu.be/d1yd-Oz7Rjo?t=212) (this guy gets pretty science-y, but it's very good information).  Whether that's more reps, more weight, more sets, decreased rest periods, more intensity... just push yourself to do more. 

Also, I was *so* envious of your cage, I reogranized my storage/furnace/workout room, to make room for this bad boy.

Now I just need to get some plates and a bar.  But (I suppose unsurprisingly) every fitness outlet I looked up, plates are on backorder.   :angry: :-\

I've added Overhead Press to the regular workout, but have decided against a Deadlift as the gym is on the second floor. I know I could theoretically be as safe as possible, but just don't want to chance slamming on the floor too much.

As for what I'm training for, goals 1, 2, and 3 are to get exercise at home in an attempt to get weight down and increase overall health. After that strength is 10x more important than size/looks.

I watched a little of the videos, will do more as I need to explore new techniques and form more.

The cage was actually a great deal on amazon, got that and the bench for $380 shipped. I assume you are already committed to what you got, but if you want the link for mine hmu on facebook. Mine also has mounting for an optional lat-pulldown attachment. If I do well and keep with my routine I plan to reward myself with that in a month or three to further expand what I can do.

And yeah, finding weights was an absolute bitch. Found a set I liked (300lb set from Dick's), sells for $250 new and people were selling the set on facebook for $500 and getting it. I actually planned a 90 mile each way trip on my day off Friday to pick up a set far away, but that very morning my local store got a shipment in which I quickly gobbled up. They had 10 and were all gone in 90 minutes.

Played with things today and here is what I've updated the routine to:

3x10 Bench press @ 90lbs (30ea)
3x10 Sit-ups.
3x10 Curls @ 60lbs (15ea)
3x10 Squats @ 130lbs (50ea)
3x10 Overhead press @ 70lbs (20ea)
3x5 Inverted row.

I can add a little weight to the bench or overhead press, depending on if I'm doing the list top to bottom or the opposite. Curls absolutely kill me. And even though I've upped the squat weight a lot I think I can still push that higher.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 05:55:10 AM
I'm confused what you mean with the '(#ea)' comment.  3 sets of 10, 70lbs for OHP.  I get that.  What's the "ea" notation meant to signify.

And I wouldn't worry too much about the deadlift/2nd floor.  Even if you did literally drop them (because of forearm fatigue) you're not lifting enough weight to have a 3 ft drop have a structural impact on the floor. If you are worried, invest in a pair of wrist straps.  Well worth it.  Deadlift is a foundational compound exercise that should be part of anyone's regular rotation.  Plus, you'll know when to stop if you feel you're about to drop it.  I've never once in my life dropped the bar/dbs in a deadlift.

As for the cage ... the one I pic'd was $600 (CAD) from Costco.  Is the Marcy MWM-7041 (not sure if that's the brand that you've got).  it's a sweet deal, especially with the dip handles and the pulley system.

Might have to check the online classified's for weights.   :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: The Walrus on September 22, 2020, 06:05:32 AM
Tweaked a shoulder muscle or something. Neck hurts when I look up on my right side... unless I raise my arms? That's a new one. Not sure if I tweaked it during pushups or if I slept weird.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 22, 2020, 07:50:24 AM
Tweaked a shoulder muscle or something. Neck hurts when I look up on my right side... unless I raise my arms? That's a new one. Not sure if I tweaked it during pushups or if I slept weird.

I did something similar over the weekend, was watching the new Kamelot blu ray and was rocking my head and tweaked something that hurt so much in my neck.  I was so mad, but while the pain was rough right away, it subsided really quickly and 15 minutes later I was rocking my head without pain again.  No idea what that was about, just attributing it to getting older  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: The Walrus on September 22, 2020, 08:44:23 AM
Ouch! I think it could be my posture; I have terrible posture at home and at work and am always fidgeting, sitting in an awkward position, but then I toss and turn during sleep too. Time to start experimenting I guess, starting with new pillows and more neck stretches
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 22, 2020, 08:50:53 AM
I'm confused what you mean with the '(#ea)' comment.  3 sets of 10, 70lbs for OHP.  I get that.  What's the "ea" notation meant to signify.

And I wouldn't worry too much about the deadlift/2nd floor.  Even if you did literally drop them (because of forearm fatigue) you're not lifting enough weight to have a 3 ft drop have a structural impact on the floor. If you are worried, invest in a pair of wrist straps.  Well worth it.  Deadlift is a foundational compound exercise that should be part of anyone's regular rotation.  Plus, you'll know when to stop if you feel you're about to drop it.  I've never once in my life dropped the bar/dbs in a deadlift.

As for the cage ... the one I pic'd was $600 (CAD) from Costco.  Is the Marcy MWM-7041 (not sure if that's the brand that you've got).  it's a sweet deal, especially with the dip handles and the pulley system.

Might have to check the online classified's for weights.   :-\

For the first part, those are just notes to myself of how much weight to put on each end of the bar. But here is some great news, I had the set I got confused with another I saw and I've actually been doing everything at 15lbs more than I thought, as the bar is 45lbs and not 30lbs!

As for the deadlift, I still want to be careful, but I'll try it. As such tonight's workout now looks like this:

3x10 Bench press @ 105lbs (30ea)
3x10 Sit-ups.
3x10 Curls @ 75lbs (15ea)
3x10 Squats @ 145lbs (50ea)
3x10 Overhead press @ 85lbs (20ea)
3x10 Deadlift @ Unknown
3x5 Inverted row.

Cage is similar to mine in cost then, if I add the handles and lat-pulldown attachment I'm probably looking at another $300.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Grappler on September 22, 2020, 09:47:55 AM
Ouch! I think it could be my posture; I have terrible posture at home and at work and am always fidgeting, sitting in an awkward position, but then I toss and turn during sleep too. Time to start experimenting I guess, starting with new pillows and more neck stretches

Likely posture or sleeping funny on it.  There's a condition called "wry neck," which is similar - when you rotate your neck, you get a shooting pain up and down your spine.  I had it back in high school when I got dropped on my head during a wrestling match.  It's almost like the muscles freeze in a certain position and it's painful to try and look in a different direction.  The doctor prescribed a muscle relaxer that fixed it in an afternoon.

Less serious cases can be from sleeping at an awkward angle and it might resolve itself in a few days.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
I'm confused what you mean with the '(#ea)' comment.  3 sets of 10, 70lbs for OHP.  I get that.  What's the "ea" notation meant to signify.

And I wouldn't worry too much about the deadlift/2nd floor.  Even if you did literally drop them (because of forearm fatigue) you're not lifting enough weight to have a 3 ft drop have a structural impact on the floor. If you are worried, invest in a pair of wrist straps.  Well worth it.  Deadlift is a foundational compound exercise that should be part of anyone's regular rotation.  Plus, you'll know when to stop if you feel you're about to drop it.  I've never once in my life dropped the bar/dbs in a deadlift.

As for the cage ... the one I pic'd was $600 (CAD) from Costco.  Is the Marcy MWM-7041 (not sure if that's the brand that you've got).  it's a sweet deal, especially with the dip handles and the pulley system.

Might have to check the online classified's for weights.   :-\

For the first part, those are just notes to myself of how much weight to put on each end of the bar. But here is some great news, I had the set I got confused with another I saw and I've actually been doing everything at 15lbs more than I thought, as the bar is 45lbs and not 30lbs!

As for the deadlift, I still want to be careful, but I'll try it. As such tonight's workout now looks like this:

3x10 Bench press @ 105lbs (30ea)
3x10 Sit-ups.
3x10 Curls @ 75lbs (15ea)
3x10 Squats @ 145lbs (50ea)
3x10 Overhead press @ 85lbs (20ea)
3x10 Deadlift @ Unknown
3x5 Inverted row.

Cage is similar to mine in cost then, if I add the handles and lat-pulldown attachment I'm probably looking at another $300.

Ok, I got ya now.  You've got 7' Olympic bar, and (for curls), you're putting 15lbs of weight on each side, ergo, curling 75lbs.  That's pretty good as a beginner.  Hell, I only curl 40lb dumbbells.  I could probably do 45s for multiple reps, but not many.

And holy fuck... my cage just got delivered 15 minutes ago!  Mother fucker is Costco fast!!!  Plates on the other hand... called a local place, and it's looking like early October as a best case.  No biggie... I can limp along with my dumbbells for a while longer.  The weather is supposed to be really good this weekend, so I don't really want to spend hours indoors putting this thing together.  It'll probably have to wait a week or three.

Deadlift... you should easily be able to do at least as much as you squat.  Start there - but I'm sure you'll find you can do more.  Focus on your technique - hip hinge (ie, butt back) until the bar hits your knees, then squat (ie, butt down) the rest of the way.  Improper form is the fastest way to tweaking your hammies or your lower back - or both!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:33:51 PM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 04:34:37 PM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

This reminds me of Boogie Nights lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 05:02:42 PM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

I would suspect most can. In my heyday of lifting in Uni, I could squat 235, but I once deadlifted 405 for 2 reps. I could do 365, 375 for 4-6 reps.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 05:03:47 PM
Oh, also ... really glad I jumped on ordering that cage from Costco - it’s no linger listed on their website!  Must’ve got the last one??
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 22, 2020, 08:22:29 PM
I know you guys said Deadlift is something you can typically put more weight on, but it still felt good to see what I could do with that! Some more (mostly positive) tweeking as I worked through the night and I ended with this:

3x10 Bench press @ 105lbs (30ea)
3x10 Sit-ups.
3x10 Curls @ 75lbs (15ea)
3x10 Squats @ 155lbs (55ea)
3x8 Overhead press @ 95lbs (25ea)
3x5 Deadlift @ 205lbs (80ea)
3x5 Inverted row.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2020, 12:20:42 AM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

I would suspect most can. In my heyday of lifting in Uni, I could squat 235, but I once deadlifted 405 for 2 reps. I could do 365, 375 for 4-6 reps.

Massive numbers.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2020, 12:29:57 AM
Impressive  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2020, 05:02:04 AM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

I would suspect most can. In my heyday of lifting in Uni, I could squat 235, but I once deadlifted 405 for 2 reps. I could do 365, 375 for 4-6 reps.

Massive numbers.

If only I kept at it, and/or paid attention to my nutrition.  I was a porky mf'r back then.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2020, 05:23:21 AM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

I would suspect most can. In my heyday of lifting in Uni, I could squat 235, but I once deadlifted 405 for 2 reps. I could do 365, 375 for 4-6 reps.

Massive numbers.

If only I kept at it, and/or paid attention to my nutrition.  I was a porky mf'r back then.

Weren't we all haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on September 23, 2020, 09:14:44 AM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

I would suspect most can. In my heyday of lifting in Uni, I could squat 235, but I once deadlifted 405 for 2 reps. I could do 365, 375 for 4-6 reps.

Massive numbers.

Keep in mind those are Canadian pounds, and aren't worth as much as American pounds.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 23, 2020, 09:53:27 AM
This is my home gym setup. Started putting it together back in 2015. I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in both hips in 2014, and had to stop running. I gained a bunch of weight over the following year, and just couldn't seem to consistently motivate myself to go to the gym (despite my gym only being about 3 blocks away). The impending birth of my son was the trigger that pushed me to actually do something about it. I figured it would only be harder to get back into shape once I have kids, so suddenly there was a sense of urgency to gain as much fitness/lose as much weight as possible before he was born. Mind you, the first version of this gym was hilariously pitiful, but it got me the start I needed. I'm slowly trying to convince the wife to let me get rid of the dumbbell weight tree since we have adjustable bowflex db's that go up to 52.5lbs anyway. So far, I'm losing that battle lol

(https://i.imgur.com/Vcaxm0Z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DcqSWeV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4sb8Wf4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UM21FUW.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2020, 03:06:27 PM
For some reason, I can deadlift sooooo much more than I can squat.

I would suspect most can. In my heyday of lifting in Uni, I could squat 235, but I once deadlifted 405 for 2 reps. I could do 365, 375 for 4-6 reps.

Massive numbers.

Keep in mind those are Canadian pounds, and aren't worth as much as American pounds.

 :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2020, 06:42:18 PM
That’s a small person riding that stationary bike!!

I’ll post before / after pics once I get my cage setup in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 24, 2020, 06:45:37 AM
Well...i may have dropped the seat so my 4 year old could ride it lol. He's been pretend working out since he could walk. Even goes so far as making small grunting noises while weight lifting
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2020, 02:52:57 PM
Well...i may have dropped the seat so my 4 year old could ride it lol. He's been pretend working out since he could walk. Even goes so far as making small grunting noises while weight lifting

That's awesome.  How much fuckin weight do you have there in your plates?  If I zoom in, I could count and do the math... looks like 4x45s; 4x35s; 4x25s; 6x10s; 10x5s and 6x2.5s.  How'd I do?

I've got a Hex DBs 5s thru 30s.  Kept 'em even though I've got the 90lb SelectTech DBs.  Nice to have a smaller set of dbs... plus jingle.daughter prefers them over the SelectTech - the latter can get a little cumbersome at times.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 24, 2020, 03:20:21 PM
I biked 26 miles yesterday, that's a new high school for me  :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2020, 03:49:38 PM
I biked 26 miles yesterday, that's a new high school for me  :yarr

Wow mate.  How long does a distance like that take?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 24, 2020, 03:53:47 PM
I biked 26 miles yesterday, that's a new high school for me  :yarr

Wow mate.  How long does a distance like that take?

*high score, not school  :lol

I average around 3:20 minutes per mile (3 miles in 10 minutes), but I end up slowing down a bit on the longer rides so it's close to 90 minutes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2020, 05:22:06 PM
My 10km circuit on my bike takes me 23 mins or so.   So that’s about the same for me - 90ish minutes.   No way my ass could take sitting on my seat for that long tho. I never go more than an hour.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2020, 05:50:38 PM
I biked 26 miles yesterday, that's a new high school for me  :yarr

Wow mate.  How long does a distance like that take?

*high score, not school  :lol

I average around 3:20 minutes per mile (3 miles in 10 minutes), but I end up slowing down a bit on the longer rides so it's close to 90 minutes.

That seems like quite a good time mate. Nice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 24, 2020, 07:19:13 PM
Well...i may have dropped the seat so my 4 year old could ride it lol. He's been pretend working out since he could walk. Even goes so far as making small grunting noises while weight lifting

That's awesome.  How much fuckin weight do you have there in your plates?  If I zoom in, I could count and do the math... looks like 4x45s; 4x35s; 4x25s; 6x10s; 10x5s and 6x2.5s.  How'd I do?

I've got a Hex DBs 5s thru 30s.  Kept 'em even though I've got the 90lb SelectTech DBs.  Nice to have a smaller set of dbs... plus jingle.daughter prefers them over the SelectTech - the latter can get a little cumbersome at times.

Probably an accurate count. I don't remember exactly, but it was something like 580lbs. I got the plates and tree, 2 Olympic bars, 1 curl bar, and the power rack (which also has a bunch of pulley attachments i stored away due to lack of space) for $500 on The Alberta government surplus site. The plates alone are worth more than that. I drove 3hrs each way to Calgary to pick it up, and it's still a massive fucking deal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 24, 2020, 07:21:32 PM
My 10km circuit on my bike takes me 23 mins or so.   So that’s about the same for me - 90ish minutes.   No way my ass could take sitting on my seat for that long tho. I never go more than an hour.

Yeah....i typically crush out 3-4hr long rides every weekend lol. You just need good cycling shorts!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: cramx3 on September 24, 2020, 08:45:21 PM
My 10km circuit on my bike takes me 23 mins or so.   So that’s about the same for me - 90ish minutes.   No way my ass could take sitting on my seat for that long tho. I never go more than an hour.

Yeah....i typically crush out 3-4hr long rides every weekend lol. You just need good cycling shorts!

I'll tell you what, my ass hurt like crazy after riding that bike in the airbnb gym in Atlanta for like 20 minutes.  My bike at home has a nicer, more flat not up your ass seat.  It does start to get uncomfortable after awhile still.  I don't know how one does 3-4 hour rides but thats awesome :lol

I'm going to Maine on Monday, there's lots of hiking one can do and bike trails but this is the first time I kind of wish I rode a real bike and had one to bring.  I expect to get a lot of walking in, but doing a bike ride would probably actually be a lot of fun and I don't think I've once ever thought that in my life as always being a fat kid.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2020, 05:10:39 AM
Well...i may have dropped the seat so my 4 year old could ride it lol. He's been pretend working out since he could walk. Even goes so far as making small grunting noises while weight lifting

That's awesome.  How much fuckin weight do you have there in your plates?  If I zoom in, I could count and do the math... looks like 4x45s; 4x35s; 4x25s; 6x10s; 10x5s and 6x2.5s.  How'd I do?

I've got a Hex DBs 5s thru 30s.  Kept 'em even though I've got the 90lb SelectTech DBs.  Nice to have a smaller set of dbs... plus jingle.daughter prefers them over the SelectTech - the latter can get a little cumbersome at times.

Probably an accurate count. I don't remember exactly, but it was something like 580lbs. I got the plates and tree, 2 Olympic bars, 1 curl bar, and the power rack (which also has a bunch of pulley attachments i stored away due to lack of space) for $500 on The Alberta government surplus site. The plates alone are worth more than that. I drove 3hrs each way to Calgary to pick it up, and it's still a massive fucking deal

Holy fuck that’s a helluva steal. Retail standard nowadays is about $425-$450 for 300lbs (255+bar). You’re easily talking $1500+ for what you got.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Evermind on September 26, 2020, 02:51:08 AM
The running trail I'm training on is 2.8 km long, and it was one of my side goals to "beat" it, as in run the whole trail back and forth. Well, this is now done, 5.6km and now I'm ready to just start running on random routes wherever they'll take me.

On the way home I saw that Toblerone chocolate was on sale in a local grocery store, bought a bar and I'm munching on it now after basically eating almost no sugar during the week.

I guess I'm slowly turning into Kade. :lol

I biked 26 miles yesterday, that's a new high score for me  :yarr

This is awesome! I love biking. When I visited Netherlands last year for Ayreon shows, I rented an AirBNB which had a guest bike. I biked to an adjacent village (~30km in total) one day and next time Ayreon comes to Tilburg I'll book that apartment again if it's available.

My bike has been standing unused for a few years as I'm just going with the rental ones now, but I should really start using it on weekends for longer routes. I'll try to get to it next year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 26, 2020, 05:19:44 AM
The running trail I'm training on is 2.8 km long, and it was one of my side goals to "beat" it, as in run the whole trail back and forth. Well, this is now done, 5.6km and now I'm ready to just start running on random routes wherever they'll take me.

On the way home I saw that Toblerone chocolate was on sale in a local grocery store, bought a bar and I'm munching on it now after basically eating almost no sugar during the week.

I guess I'm slowly turning into Kade. :lol

Nah... a reward meal (or treat in this case) is absolutely warranted.  You more than earned it.  And as I've said many times, unless you're a professional bodybuilder, boxer, or MMA fighter, no one needs to be 100% clean/strict on their nutrition.  If we eat 4-5 times a day, that's 28-35 times per week.  Even 2-3 'unclean' meals/snacks still means you're eating good 90%+ of the time.  Seems pretty good to me.

Starting week 2 of the program I'm on.  I kinda eased myself into it last week, keeping the weights relatively managable.  Now it's time to push things.  Plus, I've got 2 yards of dirt to disperse throughout the yard.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: The Walrus on September 26, 2020, 10:47:39 AM
I feel better than I have in a long time. Deck of cards workout at home plus lots of walking and the occasional run. Just put on some shirts I haven't worn much and man I feel and look great. Going to do a bunch of walking later after lunch with a friend. Gotta burn off this giant burrito somehow haha
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2020, 04:17:10 AM
The running trail I'm training on is 2.8 km long, and it was one of my side goals to "beat" it, as in run the whole trail back and forth. Well, this is now done, 5.6km and now I'm ready to just start running on random routes wherever they'll take me.

On the way home I saw that Toblerone chocolate was on sale in a local grocery store, bought a bar and I'm munching on it now after basically eating almost no sugar during the week.

I guess I'm slowly turning into Kade. :lol


 :metal  Nothing wrong with that mate.  You put the effort in, you can get away with the calories.  It's simple, go for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2020, 04:48:46 AM
I feel better than I have in a long time. Deck of cards workout at home plus lots of walking and the occasional run. Just put on some shirts I haven't worn much and man I feel and look great. Going to do a bunch of walking later after lunch with a friend. Gotta burn off this giant burrito somehow haha

That's awesome.  It's so great when our clothes and the mirror give us amazing feedback!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2020, 05:23:41 AM
The running trail I'm training on is 2.8 km long, and it was one of my side goals to "beat" it, as in run the whole trail back and forth. Well, this is now done, 5.6km and now I'm ready to just start running on random routes wherever they'll take me.

On the way home I saw that Toblerone chocolate was on sale in a local grocery store, bought a bar and I'm munching on it now after basically eating almost no sugar during the week.

I guess I'm slowly turning into Kade. :lol

Nah... a reward meal (or treat in this case) is absolutely warranted.  You more than earned it.  And as I've said many times, unless you're a professional bodybuilder, boxer, or MMA fighter, no one needs to be 100% clean/strict on their nutrition.  If we eat 4-5 times a day, that's 28-35 times per week.  Even 2-3 'unclean' meals/snacks still means you're eating good 90%+ of the time.  Seems pretty good to me.

Starting week 2 of the program I'm on.  I kinda eased myself into it last week, keeping the weights relatively managable.  Now it's time to push things.  Plus, I've got 2 yards of dirt to disperse throughout the yard.

I've heard this before and for the most part agree.  However, I think more thought needs to go into this is you are following this approach.  The 10% of the meals that are not clean or unhealthy needs to still be careful scrutinised in relation to calories.  I ate a massive Maccas meal yesterday.  I had 1 meal yesterday and that meal was more than what I normally would eat in a day.  So that 1 meal in the 10% actually cover 4-5 meals.  I think the notion is correct but need to make sure the other 10% don't turn into putting large amounts of calories back in. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2020, 06:00:27 AM
The running trail I'm training on is 2.8 km long, and it was one of my side goals to "beat" it, as in run the whole trail back and forth. Well, this is now done, 5.6km and now I'm ready to just start running on random routes wherever they'll take me.

On the way home I saw that Toblerone chocolate was on sale in a local grocery store, bought a bar and I'm munching on it now after basically eating almost no sugar during the week.

I guess I'm slowly turning into Kade. :lol

Nah... a reward meal (or treat in this case) is absolutely warranted.  You more than earned it.  And as I've said many times, unless you're a professional bodybuilder, boxer, or MMA fighter, no one needs to be 100% clean/strict on their nutrition.  If we eat 4-5 times a day, that's 28-35 times per week.  Even 2-3 'unclean' meals/snacks still means you're eating good 90%+ of the time.  Seems pretty good to me.

Starting week 2 of the program I'm on.  I kinda eased myself into it last week, keeping the weights relatively managable.  Now it's time to push things.  Plus, I've got 2 yards of dirt to disperse throughout the yard.

I've heard this before and for the most part agree.  However, I think more thought needs to go into this is you are following this approach.  The 10% of the meals that are not clean or unhealthy needs to still be careful scrutinised in relation to calories.  I ate a massive Maccas meal yesterday.  I had 1 meal yesterday and that meal was more than what I normally would eat in a day.  So that 1 meal in the 10% actually cover 4-5 meals.  I think the notion is correct but need to make sure the other 10% don't turn into putting large amounts of calories back in.

Agreed completely.  THOSE kinds of meals should not be regular occurrences... once every few months, or once a year is tolerable.  Like, if I got to one of those greasy burger joints (eg, Five Guys), I'm only doing that occasionally, and still trying to be somewhat smart about my total caloric intake
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: The Walrus on September 27, 2020, 10:50:38 AM
Troof. I met up with a friend for lunch yesterday but didn't plan on ordering anything. Absent mindedly picked a burrito and just brought it home with me. Got hungry and ate the whole thing. Not sure how many calories were in it but man I felt like 100% grade A ass the rest of the day even after a 3 hour nap and some cardio. Headache too. And that was all I ate yesterday.  Bleh.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 27, 2020, 11:27:16 AM
I typically have 1 meal each week that nears 1,000 calories. Usually the night i make pizza for the family. Otherwise, my biggest meals are usually 300-400cal (and i IF so i only actually eat two 'meals', the rest is more snack-like). I find i don't feel great the whole day after pizza night. Not necessarily bad, but definitely a little sluggish.

As for the gargantuan meals, those are usually just Christmas dinner and brunch. I log all my food and exercise everyday, but Christmas is the one day of the year i just 'quick add' the whole day (usually 5-6000cal). I try to set a goal each December of staying within 5lbs of my December 1st weight by the end of Christmas break.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2020, 01:15:48 PM
I gotta get back in the habit of diligently tracking my cals.  It’s just not a habit I’m in to anymore. But, that’s more than likely why my progress is slow. I don’t eat bad or too much by any stretch, but I’m sure if 8 got more disciplined, the results would be coming a little quicker.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2020, 02:52:54 PM
Jesus, you guys sound strict as hell.  I can't go a weekend without a binge.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 27, 2020, 05:07:14 PM
I'm not really that strict, but my diet probably would seem uber healthy to common non-exercise folk. I've been eating like this for so long that it's just part of my lifestyle now. Make no mistake, i crack a lot. I'm weak around PB; i devour my kids' snacks; i can easily over do it on healthier snacks,too, like greek yogurt. I just also happen to really like grilled chicken, asparagus, broccoli and salads. And i can cook quite well, so i find that makes it easier.

As for the strict logging...i came to terms with it years ago (my streak is current 1729 consecutive days). I know i can't be successful with my nutrition unless I'm tracking it. Simple as that. Now it's just another party of my day
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2020, 07:09:27 PM
I'm not really that strict, but my diet probably would seem uber healthy to common non-exercise folk. I've been eating like this for so long that it's just part of my lifestyle now. Make no mistake, i crack a lot. I'm weak around PB; i devour my kids' snacks; i can easily over do it on healthier snacks,too, like greek yogurt. I just also happen to really like grilled chicken, asparagus, broccoli and salads. And i can cook quite well, so i find that makes it easier.

As for the strict logging...i came to terms with it years ago (my streak is current 1729 consecutive days). I know i can't be successful with my nutrition unless I'm tracking it. Simple as that. Now it's just another party of my day

Agree, the eating just becomes a lifestyle.  I also couldn't imagine eating any other way than chicken, tuna, veg and protein shakes daily.  I've tracked before but got over it pretty quick.  I guess my approach is almost like more calorie cycling.  Eat lower calories through the week and eat bigger on the weekend.  It's hard to gauge with this approach where my weight sits as it flucuates so much, but I more use the mirror in terms of my progress.

After a lot of eating shit on the weekend, I'm carrying quite a bit of water today and look terrible, even after a 16km run yesterday and a weight session on Saturday.  So today will be very low calorie to balance it out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: H2 on October 04, 2020, 05:32:49 PM
OK this is kinda personal but I'm reflecting on my fitness journey. I'm finally at the lowest weight I've been at in about 7 years. In 2013 I was a weak 143lb- that's how long it's been.

So I am a man, and I am about 5'7, and I've got a pretty small frame, and I've always *thought* I've had a fast metabolism. (Truthfully, I ate a lot of junk food and was at a "healthy" weight even though I think I was pretty out of shape.) Anyway, I started off around 143lb and my timeline has been something like this:

2014: Lifting and running, made a consistent habit and hovered around 155lb, but was kinda chubby
2015: Cut down to around 147lb with Insanity, and ended up feeling very lean and cardio fit. Played around with more lifting and running after that and worked back up to around 155lb.
2016: After a bout of Insanity and P90x, and lifting and a lot of running, managed to get around a fit 153lb. Clothes fit great, really was a nice summer.
2017: Bulked up quite a bit, and got a nice girlfriend and everything. I lifted a lot and got to around 175lb.
2018: I kept lifting and bulking, getting to around 185lb. I was stronger than I'd ever been at this point. But honestly, 185lb was fat on me, and I ended up looking like a linebacker and just missing that lithe feeling of being light. This was honestly a low point for me in life. Broke up with my gf. In two years, I went from looking 23 to about 32. In actuality I was only 27. I decided I didn't like this new version of myself and started to diet back down.
2019: I managed to diet all the way back down to around 152lb. I used Insanity for a while, and then keto with lifting. I honestly looked pretty terrible throughout most of this process. I think as we lose weight, fat gets all squishy and will make you look proportionally worse until you start maintaining weight again. After hitting 152lb I bulked up again (accidentally)to 166lb after switching off. Then I cut down again to around 158lb.
2020: Since COVID hit, I have been cutting with running and Insanity. Get this--I am now down to 143lb. I look about 20 years old tops (I'm 29 this year). I'm feeling leaner than ever. And you know what? I'm going to keep going with the cutting. My goal is a high-schoolers cross-country runner physique. I've come to realize I'm a small framed dude, and the American message that dudes need to bulk and get big, beefy, and Thor-like no longer appeals to me. I know THICC women want an even bigger dude, so this might hurt my chances in certain ways, but screw it. I'm loving my body now and how youthful I feel.

TL;DR: "Eat and lift" is not necessarily good advice. You have to do what's best for your body. In my case, I don't carry weight well, and I have a small frame, so a "light" weight goal is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2020, 05:46:23 PM
Interesting journey H.  Glad to hear you've finally gotten to the point that everyone should - figuring out what works best for us as individuals (nutrition and exercise), as well as doing what we love.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: Nick on October 05, 2020, 02:17:53 PM
Now down 22lbs total to 248.

Diet has been key again as the last week was tough with the weights, I started having discomfort in my right wrist when doing overhead press and especially while curling that cut short some workouts, and seemed to be having issues in my right knee when squatting as well. But I took Friday off, and Saturday/Sunday I got to play hockey both days as my workout, so with three days of "rest" I'm hopeful things go more smoothly today through Wednesday with the weights.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
Now down 22lbs total to 248.

Diet has been key again as the last week was tough with the weights, I started having discomfort in my right wrist when doing overhead press and especially while curling that cut short some workouts, and seemed to be having issues in my right knee when squatting as well. But I took Friday off, and Saturday/Sunday I got to play hockey both days as my workout, so with three days of "rest" I'm hopeful things go more smoothly today through Wednesday with the weights.

Investing in braces and/or wraps might be a good idea.  I had to wear neoprene knee brace (like the below) for many years (and an elbow one for a while a couple years back.

(https://fit360.ee/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/RDX.jpg)

Got my rack built; got my weights today (local place finally got some stock.  I'm very stoked.

Kade... you get 400kms in last month??   :lol  Guess I should change the thread title.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 03:08:33 PM
Now down 22lbs total to 248.

Diet has been key again as the last week was tough with the weights, I started having discomfort in my right wrist when doing overhead press and especially while curling that cut short some workouts, and seemed to be having issues in my right knee when squatting as well. But I took Friday off, and Saturday/Sunday I got to play hockey both days as my workout, so with three days of "rest" I'm hopeful things go more smoothly today through Wednesday with the weights.

I find a lot of niggles can be helped by heavy stretching and rolling.  Sometimes a lot of pain can just be tightness around the area.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 03:10:12 PM
Kade... you get 400kms in last month??   :lol  Guess I should change the thread title.

I assumed the thread title was for me.  I don't actually remember saying that however.  :huh:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 03:13:03 PM
OK this is kinda personal but I'm reflecting on my fitness journey. I'm finally at the lowest weight I've been at in about 7 years. In 2013 I was a weak 143lb- that's how long it's been.

So I am a man, and I am about 5'7, and I've got a pretty small frame, and I've always *thought* I've had a fast metabolism. (Truthfully, I ate a lot of junk food and was at a "healthy" weight even though I think I was pretty out of shape.) Anyway, I started off around 143lb and my timeline has been something like this:

2014: Lifting and running, made a consistent habit and hovered around 155lb, but was kinda chubby
2015: Cut down to around 147lb with Insanity, and ended up feeling very lean and cardio fit. Played around with more lifting and running after that and worked back up to around 155lb.
2016: After a bout of Insanity and P90x, and lifting and a lot of running, managed to get around a fit 153lb. Clothes fit great, really was a nice summer.
2017: Bulked up quite a bit, and got a nice girlfriend and everything. I lifted a lot and got to around 175lb.
2018: I kept lifting and bulking, getting to around 185lb. I was stronger than I'd ever been at this point. But honestly, 185lb was fat on me, and I ended up looking like a linebacker and just missing that lithe feeling of being light. This was honestly a low point for me in life. Broke up with my gf. In two years, I went from looking 23 to about 32. In actuality I was only 27. I decided I didn't like this new version of myself and started to diet back down.
2019: I managed to diet all the way back down to around 152lb. I used Insanity for a while, and then keto with lifting. I honestly looked pretty terrible throughout most of this process. I think as we lose weight, fat gets all squishy and will make you look proportionally worse until you start maintaining weight again.After hitting 152lb I bulked up again (accidentally)to 166lb after switching off. Then I cut down again to around 158lb.
2020: Since COVID hit, I have been cutting with running and Insanity. Get this--I am now down to 143lb. I look about 20 years old tops (I'm 29 this year). I'm feeling leaner than ever. And you know what? I'm going to keep going with the cutting. My goal is a high-schoolers cross-country runner physique. I've come to realize I'm a small framed dude, and the American message that dudes need to bulk and get big, beefy, and Thor-like no longer appeals to me. I know THICC women want an even bigger dude, so this might hurt my chances in certain ways, but screw it. I'm loving my body now and how youthful I feel.

TL;DR: "Eat and lift" is not necessarily good advice. You have to do what's best for your body. In my case, I don't carry weight well, and I have a small frame, so a "light" weight goal is perfectly fine.

Great read mate.  Took me a while to realise myself I was never going to be a massive bulky dude.  That bolded part is sooo true.  As you lose you just look so shit until as you say you maintain a little and even carb up.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2020, 06:09:57 PM
Kade... you get 400kms in last month??   :lol  Guess I should change the thread title.

I assumed the thread title was for me.  I don't actually remember saying that however.  :huh:

Nah, you never did... I just threw it out there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 06:13:46 PM
Kade... you get 400kms in last month??   :lol  Guess I should change the thread title.

I assumed the thread title was for me.  I don't actually remember saying that however.  :huh:

Nah, you never did... I just threw it out there.

Ok good.  I'm not going crazy!

Speaking of running, I've still been pretty active with it.  Sunday long runs are a staple and usually 2 or 3kms most days too.  Speed and times have platued heavily though.

Took advantage of the public holiday yesterday and busted out a 2.5km swim followed by an 8km run.  So tired and sore today it's not funny.  Haven't done much swimming and powered through the 2.5km so it's taking it's toll now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: H2 on October 06, 2020, 11:51:57 AM
Great read mate.  Took me a while to realise myself I was never going to be a massive bulky dude.  That bolded part is sooo true.  As you lose you just look so shit until as you say you maintain a little and even carb up.
Isn't it wild how true that is? It blows my mind every time. I'll go from looking horrendous, untoned, weak, doughy to looking fantastic in like two days after switching to maintenance and getting some carbs in. I don't think this aspect of weight loss is stressed enough!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2020, 12:04:30 PM
Kade I can’t believe you are aiming to try to run 750km in October. That’s just too much.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2020, 03:32:49 PM
Kade I can’t believe you are aiming to try to run 750km in October. That’s just too much.

 :rollin

This made me laugh so fucking hard!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. 400km for September
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2020, 03:33:43 PM
Great read mate.  Took me a while to realise myself I was never going to be a massive bulky dude.  That bolded part is sooo true.  As you lose you just look so shit until as you say you maintain a little and even carb up.
Isn't it wild how true that is? It blows my mind every time. I'll go from looking horrendous, untoned, weak, doughy to looking fantastic in like two days after switching to maintenance and getting some carbs in. I don't think this aspect of weight loss is stressed enough!

It's a complete mindfuck too, especially when cutting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 06, 2020, 03:35:46 PM
Some guy I've never seen before walked into the office today, took one look at me and said, "Damn! You've lost a lot of weight!" and I'm like WTF, when was the last time I was fat, and who the fuck are you?  :lol

But I guess that makes me feel better considering I look in the mirror every day and just think, "fat." So I'm extra happy and going to get a lot more fresh air tonight because of it, and then knock out another bodyweight workout before dark. And I just shot off a message to a girl so hopefully she and her dog can join me for a walk sometime soon  :corn

Chicken and roasted veggies on the menu for dinner, as usual, because I am boring and easy to please. Accidentally spilled the entire cayenne pepper container onto the chicken, so uh, it has kick.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 06, 2020, 07:10:39 PM
Chicken and roasted veggies on the menu for dinner

Same, baked chicken and veggies.  Keep it up and also, good luck with the girl  :metal

I biked for the first time in over a week and weighed myself which I am not happy about after my vacation...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 10, 2020, 02:12:14 AM
Been slowly increasing the distance for my runs over the past few weeks while trying to keep the pace with mixed success. Today was 7km run in 41:25 which seems in line with my next goal, 10km under an hour at the end of November. Seems reasonable enough and I hope I can do it.

(https://i.imgur.com/wxY3EKf.jpg)

Kade I can’t believe you are aiming to try to run 750km in October. That’s just too much.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 10, 2020, 05:51:47 AM
That's awesome Ruslan.

I tweaked something in my left trap the other day... went a little heavy with dumbbell high pulls - not good form, and was cheating them up a bit too much.  Bad idea.

Today, chest and back.  I finally got plates and a bar, so now my new setup is complete.  I've got some cosmetic stuff to do, and will post pics maybe by the end of the weekend.  I haven't had too much chance to use the plates yet, but today will be BB rows; tomorrow squats and DL finally using heavy enough weights. :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2020, 04:53:41 AM
Ruslan, you are killing it.  Your increases in distance and time actually has me jealous, you are flying.  :lol  To give you an idea on how well you are going, I did 8km today in 41:41 and was absolutely spent.  That's about average now, I've stalled heavily, not sure what my next move should be.  Keep going mate!

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 11, 2020, 06:04:02 AM
It was really nice finally being able to use a barbell on the moves I want to, and not have to adapt with a dB movement. Did underhand bb rows yesterday. It’s a small thing, but felt great to do the movement with a strait bar.  Of course, I’m sore his mornig. Today is gonna be twice as nice - deadlifts and squats. Now I can finally get up to a weight that is a challenge, and proper form that I can’t get with dbs
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2020, 06:23:29 AM
I prefer underhand rows as opposed to overhand.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on October 13, 2020, 10:38:50 PM
Haven't been my best with dieting lately, but have kept up with solid exercise and am now down 24lbs total to 246lbs. Hoping between now and Thanksgiving I can put it all together and make a really good push going into the holiday season.

And I know this isn't the perfect thread for this, but as going vegetarian has had a natural tie in with my diet I have to say Beyond Meat is incredible. I just ordered $100 worth of "meat" from their site to throw in my freezer. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2020, 11:04:38 PM
Haven't been my best with dieting lately, but have kept up with solid exercise and am now down 24lbs total to 246lbs. Hoping between now and Thanksgiving I can put it all together and make a really good push going into the holiday season.

And I know this isn't the perfect thread for this, but as going vegetarian has had a natural tie in with my diet I have to say Beyond Meat is incredible. I just ordered $100 worth of "meat" from their site to throw in my freezer.

Well done Nick.  What's your reasoning behind going vegetarian if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 14, 2020, 05:16:06 AM
And I know this isn't the perfect thread for this

Nah, we're all about nutrition talk 'round here. After all, it makes up the base of the health and fitness pyramid.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2020, 06:24:54 AM
And I know this isn't the perfect thread for this

Nah, we're all about nutrition talk 'round here. After all, it makes up the base of the health and fitness pyramid.

Agreed.  But I just cannot get on the 'fake meat' bandwagon.  I remember taking a night school class in Uni with a guy that worked at the Schneiders factory in the area, and he once said that he would never eat anything processed (since he knew what "processed" really entailed.  I can only assume what nastiness goes in to making Beyond Meat look and taste like meat.  I also remember reading this article a while ago - https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/beyond-meat-health-vegan-burger-plant-based

Quote
Just because a product is plant-based doesn’t mean it’s automatically healthy. “French fries are plant-based,” Langer pointed out.

In fact, Aroma’s vegan burger (made with a Beyond Meat patty) and salad will set you back 990 calories, 63.9 grams of fat and 1,530 milligrams of sodium.

No thanks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 14, 2020, 08:10:21 AM
I've heard people say the beyond meat is pretty good for not being real meat, but I've also heard that stuff is really bad for you (not in calories, but in other ways being a processed food) which make me not want to even bother trying it.  I've been sooo good lately with dropping processed foods.  It hasn't cut into my belly or anything, but I feel better about myself for doing it for my overall health. 

My x did stock up my pantry with a bunch of shit food though that I've slowly been eating at just to get rid of it though, but I'm getting close to not having nay boxed or frozen meals in my house as well as no junk food.  The only processed stuff I'll have is cheese, protein/fiber bars, yogurt and dressings/marinades. And I'm trying to cut breads out but occasionally I'll get like wraps or something that aren't fresh baked.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
Not sure how the sodium levels stack up with a regular burger Chad posted, but that sodium level is crazy high.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on October 14, 2020, 04:13:25 PM
I probably should have clarified a bit more, so here it goes.

TL;DR: Going vegetarian and losing weight had nothing to do with one another, but have combined to really change the way I eat.

I have known for a long time that a vegetarian diet was better for the environment, and then early this year I heard a story from a family I served (I had funeral services for their dad) that really drove home ethical points about eating meat that I also pretty much knew in the back of my mind anyway. So all year I had been cutting back on meat, mainly with our four HelloFresh dinners each week. Started with some vegetarian choices here or there, then a solid 2 or 3 a week, and then usually all 4 most weeks.

It was Aug. 15 I think that I hit 270lbs and started losing weight. Then at the end of August I decided, completely unrelated to that, to try and give up meat completely. It has thus far worked out and I am now a month and a half without meat. But while my diet is about losing weight and being healthier, my going meatless is 100% environmental and ethical.

Getting specifically to Beyond Meat, I will say I wasn't looking for that. We have enjoyed finding good recipes that just don't use meat, but Beyond Meat opens things up, especially when other people are involved. The biggest success was having the in-laws over and cooking burgers, and having my father-in-law, who is the furthest thing from a vegetarian you can imagine not only loving the Beyond Burgers and complimenting them, but going so far as to have the second with no condiments or bun, just straight patty to enjoy how good it was. It allows us to occasionally just cook how we used to more easily when we want, and cook for others more easily without worrying they'll be turned off at all.

I've personally never cared if something is processed, and compared to meat at least their formula seems plenty healthy to me. My only real gripe with the company is that they claim to care about the environment and yet proudly talk about how they don't have GMOs, which have the ability to be more environmentally friendly and feed more people.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2020, 04:16:45 PM
Completely understand it being from an ethical point of view Nick.  Good on you for going all in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 14, 2020, 05:15:56 PM
Completely understand it being from an ethical point of view Nick.  Good on you for going all in.

Yea, while I love meat and don't see myself giving it up, those who can and do it "for the cause" should get some props.  More so if you, not Nick specifically the general "you", don't hate on me for continuing to eat meat. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2020, 05:22:02 PM
Completely understand it being from an ethical point of view Nick.  Good on you for going all in.

Yea, while I love meat and don't see myself giving it up, those who can and do it "for the cause" should get some props.  More so if you, not Nick specifically the general "you", don't hate on me for continuing to eat meat.

+1.

I think I know the answer, but just to be clear .... you give up all meat? Beef, pork, fish, poultry.  Road kill?  Republicans?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on October 14, 2020, 06:33:25 PM
Completely understand it being from an ethical point of view Nick.  Good on you for going all in.

Yea, while I love meat and don't see myself giving it up, those who can and do it "for the cause" should get some props.  More so if you, not Nick specifically the general "you", don't hate on me for continuing to eat meat.

+1.

I think I know the answer, but just to be clear .... you give up all meat? Beef, pork, fish, poultry.  Road kill?  Republicans?

There are times I get cravings for certain things for sure, but for the last month and a half I've been completely on point. If I was as strict with my diet as I was with giving up meat I'd be down 40lbs instead of 24lbs! I would love to make an exception for fish/seafood, but people tend to do that for the health reasons, so I can't really justify that is health isn't the reason I gave up other meats.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2020, 06:49:02 PM
Yeah, don't hate us Nick.  I would totally struggle eating no meat whatsoever.  Don't think I could do it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on October 14, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
Yeah, don't hate us Nick.  I would totally struggle eating no meat whatsoever.  Don't think I could do it.

I look at it this way, I've probably been presented with solid evidence as an adult as long as 15 years ago that eating meat was, on some level, wrong. Yet it took me those 15 years so actually come around and act on that. So while I will certainly recommend giving up meat for certain reasons, I can completely understand those that can't or won't. And frankly there is always a chance I could go back to meat at some point, crazier things have happened.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2020, 07:21:59 PM
My line of thinking is, I love animals a lot.  But I love eating them a lot too.  Unfortunately animals aren't going to stop getting killed because I stop eating them.  I know the whole thing about we all need to do our part etc.  But I ain't changing the world.  Animals will still be sacrificed.  It may be a cop out, but I'll live by that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2020, 10:22:41 PM
I totally respect you position Nick.  For me, not sure I'd ever get there.  There's a reason that humans are tagged with the moniker 'top of the food chain'.  I say that somewhat facetiously, but somewhat seriously.  I don't think this is the thread for a debate on the topic, so I'll just leave it at that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 15, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Nick: nothing but utmost respect for your decision and your stance on this, but there's no way I can do it. I know it might be selfish but meat is something I probably won't ever give up. Fish too, man I love fish.

Kade: I read your post regarding 8km in 41:41 and felt really good during today's run so I tried to up the pace a bit, ended up doing 7km in 39:52. :metal Today was such a good day for it too, clear sky, +16°C during sunset in the middle of October. Probably one of the last days like these this year, the forecast is +5°C on Sunday. :P Bought a jacket for runs in the colder weather a few days ago, can't wait to try it in action.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 15, 2020, 10:35:20 AM
Nick: nothing but utmost respect for your decision and your stance on this, but there's no way I can do it. I know it might be selfish but meat is something I probably won't ever give up. Fish too, man I love fish.

Kade: I read your post regarding 8km in 41:41 and felt really good during today's run so I tried to up the pace a bit, ended up doing 7km in 39:52. :metal Today was such a good day for it too, clear sky, +16°C during sunset in the middle of October. Probably one of the last days like these this year, the forecast is +5°C on Sunday. :P Bought a jacket for runs in the colder weather a few days ago, can't wait to try it in action.
Yeah...we're forecasted -3C on Sunday here. I'll still be heading out for a ride, but most of my riding friends have shut it down for the year. I give them a hard time for it. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada is ridiculously far north for such a large metro area, so it gets cold and dark. If you're not willing to cycle in the cold or dark here, when the hell are you going to do it lol?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2020, 10:38:51 AM
Nick: nothing but utmost respect for your decision and your stance on this, but there's no way I can do it. I know it might be selfish but meat is something I probably won't ever give up. Fish too, man I love fish.

Kade: I read your post regarding 8km in 41:41 and felt really good during today's run so I tried to up the pace a bit, ended up doing 7km in 39:52. :metal Today was such a good day for it too, clear sky, +16°C during sunset in the middle of October. Probably one of the last days like these this year, the forecast is +5°C on Sunday. :P Bought a jacket for runs in the colder weather a few days ago, can't wait to try it in action.
Yeah...we're forecasted -3C on Sunday here. I'll still be heading out for a ride, but most of my riding friends have shut it down for the year. I give them a hard time for it. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada is ridiculously far north for such a large metro area, so it gets cold and dark. If you're not willing to cycle in the cold or dark here, when the hell are you going to do it lol?

Summer?

19C this morning... but rain forecasted for about the next week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 15, 2020, 10:56:13 AM
It is clear blue skies and 75F here in NJ today, absolutely beautiful day for mid october and I'm working from home outside enjoying it right now, as I just finished my early day bike ride (I'll do another later today).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 15, 2020, 11:00:18 AM
Nick: nothing but utmost respect for your decision and your stance on this, but there's no way I can do it. I know it might be selfish but meat is something I probably won't ever give up. Fish too, man I love fish.

Kade: I read your post regarding 8km in 41:41 and felt really good during today's run so I tried to up the pace a bit, ended up doing 7km in 39:52. :metal Today was such a good day for it too, clear sky, +16°C during sunset in the middle of October. Probably one of the last days like these this year, the forecast is +5°C on Sunday. :P Bought a jacket for runs in the colder weather a few days ago, can't wait to try it in action.
Yeah...we're forecasted -3C on Sunday here. I'll still be heading out for a ride, but most of my riding friends have shut it down for the year. I give them a hard time for it. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada is ridiculously far north for such a large metro area, so it gets cold and dark. If you're not willing to cycle in the cold or dark here, when the hell are you going to do it lol?

I'm planning to run during the whole winter. We'll see how it goes!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 15, 2020, 12:10:52 PM
I took up winter cycling back in 2018 when i started cycling for my commute, and i absolutely love it. The same roads and trails have a different feel and look in the winter that i find refreshing. So long as you're wearing appropriate clothing you don't really get cold.

I remember a commute this past winter where the base temp was -30, and dropped to -40 with the windchill. Within 5min my garmin bike computer stopped working, my gear shifters stopped working, and then finally my headlight stopped. I still got to work not only completely warm, but actually sweating a shit load.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 15, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
I took up winter cycling back in 2018 when i started cycling for my commute, and i absolutely love it. The same roads and trails have a different feel and look in the winter that i find refreshing. So long as you're wearing appropriate clothing you don't really get cold.

I remember a commute this past winter where the base temp was -30, and dropped to -40 with the windchill. Within 5min my garmin bike computer stopped working, my gear shifters stopped working, and then finally my headlight stopped. I still got to work not only completely warm, but actually sweating a shit load.

That's what I'm looking for. I love winter and I love snow and there's usually snow. I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2020, 03:22:35 PM
Nick: nothing but utmost respect for your decision and your stance on this, but there's no way I can do it. I know it might be selfish but meat is something I probably won't ever give up. Fish too, man I love fish.

Kade: I read your post regarding 8km in 41:41 and felt really good during today's run so I tried to up the pace a bit, ended up doing 7km in 39:52. :metal Today was such a good day for it too, clear sky, +16°C during sunset in the middle of October. Probably one of the last days like these this year, the forecast is +5°C on Sunday. :P Bought a jacket for runs in the colder weather a few days ago, can't wait to try it in action.

Awesome mate, crushing it again.  I think that's actually.one thing that's not helping my plateau either, it's getting warm, especially here where running in close to 30-35 degree weather is not unheard of.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 17, 2020, 02:55:39 AM
Nick: nothing but utmost respect for your decision and your stance on this, but there's no way I can do it. I know it might be selfish but meat is something I probably won't ever give up. Fish too, man I love fish.

Kade: I read your post regarding 8km in 41:41 and felt really good during today's run so I tried to up the pace a bit, ended up doing 7km in 39:52. :metal Today was such a good day for it too, clear sky, +16°C during sunset in the middle of October. Probably one of the last days like these this year, the forecast is +5°C on Sunday. :P Bought a jacket for runs in the colder weather a few days ago, can't wait to try it in action.

Awesome mate, crushing it again.  I think that's actually.one thing that's not helping my plateau either, it's getting warm, especially here where running in close to 30-35 degree weather is not unheard of.

Just had my first run in a moderately cold weather, 3°C and it was good, got 7.8 km in 45 minutes which I'm pretty happy with. Planned to do 7 km but I took a wrong turn and ended up circling back which added to the distance a bit. :lol I can definitely see myself running in colder weather, should be no problem down to -5°C at all, after that I can see it becoming more difficult. Running in the heat must suck though, I started in late August so I avoided most of the warmer days. Next summer should be tough.

There's also fewer people in the park now that it's colder, so it's pretty much all lovely like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/2csc300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2020, 04:58:08 AM
Amazing scenery Ruslan.  Looks perfect for a long run.

How are you pulling up after your runs?  Takes a lot out of me personally and even the next day especially on a Monday after a long Sunday run, it really fucks me for most of the day.  Seems it just takes it out of me.  Interested to see how you are pulling up?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 17, 2020, 10:47:07 AM
That looks very nice for a stroll
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 17, 2020, 11:45:50 AM
How are you pulling up after your runs?  Takes a lot out of me personally and even the next day especially on a Monday after a long Sunday run, it really fucks me for most of the day.  Seems it just takes it out of me.  Interested to see how you are pulling up?

Well, actually I don't do much. I do a brisk walk for 5 minutes after running as was suggested by the 5k program, then I do a simple stretching routine. Obviously I feel pain, or actually it's more like tension, in my legs and it was very uncomfortable when I started running but it's alright now. The first few hours after a run are the worst and then it sets in and I'm good. I do feel a bit worn out but otherwise fine, motivated and I usually just want to do all the stuff I've put on hold before.

I think that's because I'm running basically with the easiest pace available, I'm taking everything very slowly and I just don't really push myself at all. Yeah I am tired after my runs but it's nothing new, I just suck it up and go with it. It's better than doing nothing.

Tuesday runs take a lot out of me though, these are the worst. I usually run at Saturday morning and then the next run is Tuesday evening and that one sucks. These are the ones where I think "fuck that how about I just go home and watch something because running sucks". I think maybe I need to add a short run on Sunday.

I think it all comes down to the time in which you're doing your runs. My 7.8k today were really easy and leisurely, but if I tried to maintain your pace, I would've likely be tired as hell.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 17, 2020, 12:09:32 PM


There's also fewer people in the park now that it's colder



100% agree. That's the weather here right now. I expect nobody else on the mtb trails when I head out this afternoon

(https://i.imgur.com/hoZpNAD.png)

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
How are you pulling up after your runs?  Takes a lot out of me personally and even the next day especially on a Monday after a long Sunday run, it really fucks me for most of the day.  Seems it just takes it out of me.  Interested to see how you are pulling up?

Well, actually I don't do much. I do a brisk walk for 5 minutes after running as was suggested by the 5k program, then I do a simple stretching routine. Obviously I feel pain, or actually it's more like tension, in my legs and it was very uncomfortable when I started running but it's alright now. The first few hours after a run are the worst and then it sets in and I'm good. I do feel a bit worn out but otherwise fine, motivated and I usually just want to do all the stuff I've put on hold before.

I think that's because I'm running basically with the easiest pace available, I'm taking everything very slowly and I just don't really push myself at all. Yeah I am tired after my runs but it's nothing new, I just suck it up and go with it. It's better than doing nothing.

Tuesday runs take a lot out of me though, these are the worst. I usually run at Saturday morning and then the next run is Tuesday evening and that one sucks. These are the ones where I think "fuck that how about I just go home and watch something because running sucks". I think maybe I need to add a short run on Sunday.

I think it all comes down to the time in which you're doing your runs. My 7.8k today were really easy and leisurely, but if I tried to maintain your pace, I would've likely be tired as hell.

You're pace is not far off though considering you haven't been running all that long, I guess that's why I ask.  Seems like your fitness is quite good.  That's the thing though hey, you just suck it up and go again the next day.  I guess I'm doing 5 days of heavy weight training too plus trying to add some swimming in. 

Sunday morning now and not sure what my aim is today.  Will see how I feel once I start.  Not overly motivated.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2020, 03:35:29 PM
I finished month 1 of the “Max Size” program from Athlean-X, and made some noticeable gains on my lifts. I’m gonna take a ‘recovery’ week and do some low key cardio, maybe a couple of light duty lifting sessions, and start month/phase 2 next Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 17, 2020, 05:28:13 PM
I finished month 1 of the “Max Size” program from Athlean-X, and made some noticeable gains on my lifts. I’m gonna take a ‘recovery’ week and do some low key cardio, maybe a couple of light duty lifting sessions, and start month/phase 2 next Saturday.
Awesome job. Sounds like it was a good program. I might have a peek to see if it's something the piques my interest
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2020, 05:25:57 AM
I finished month 1 of the “Max Size” program from Athlean-X, and made some noticeable gains on my lifts. I’m gonna take a ‘recovery’ week and do some low key cardio, maybe a couple of light duty lifting sessions, and start month/phase 2 next Saturday.
Awesome job. Sounds like it was a good program. I might have a peek to see if it's something the piques my interest

I bought it last year at Christmas time when he was offering all programs of Buy 1 / get a 2nd 50% off.  I'd put battle ropes on my Christmas list, and mrs.jingle wanted to get them for me, but couldn't find any anywhere.  Turns out, it would've been really difficult to use in the only place in the house I could make it work (I don't have a room big enough to use them in, so the setup would've needed to go thru the doorway to my workout room.  Not ideal.  When I saw these programs on sale, I decided to swap that birthday gift. 

Max Size is really simple - each routine (at least, in month 1) was 2 body parts with one move each.  For instance, push/pull day was incline DB press and BB underhand row.  10x10 of the former, and 10x5 of the latter.  Then week 2, you swap the moves (so the DB press is 10x5 and row is 10x10).  Then week 3/4, you do the same thing, but super-set them (with rest between sets).  Every set has a strict 60 second rest period.  There's also a 'finisher' move for each body part to really get failure/burn fatigue.

It probably sounds complicated just trying to type it up, but the program is very straight forward so far.  I gained 5-10lbs on most of the DB moves (incline press, o/h press, tricep extensions).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2020, 11:59:43 AM
Evermind's park run pic inspired me to go to a local park over the weekend and do some trails while the weather was still nice.  Really enjoyed it, I should do that more often.  Just two different 1 mile loops that I walked.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 19, 2020, 12:22:47 PM
Evermind's park run pic inspired me to go to a local park over the weekend and do some trails while the weather was still nice.  Really enjoyed it, I should do that more often.  Just two different 1 mile loops that I walked.

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Chino on October 19, 2020, 12:29:38 PM
I'm starting to feel myself lose steam. After months of going hard and getting to 92lbs lost, I think I'm finally starting to get tired and hit a wall. It's not helping at all that winter is rapidly approaching. It's raining a lot more often, and when I go outside at 5:30 to start my morning walk, it's in the high 30s/low 40s. I don't mean to be a bitch about it, but that's chilly, and single digit temps aren't far away. It's kind of killing my mood too because I was making really good progress. My 7+ miles a day has become 3.5 because of the weather. I have the treadmill, but after about 10 minutes of that I really start to hate it. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 12:35:22 PM
I'm starting to feel myself lose steam. After months of going hard and getting to 92lbs lost, I think I'm finally starting to get tired and hit a wall. It's not helping at all that winter is rapidly approaching. It's raining a lot more often, and when I go outside at 5:30 to start my morning walk, and it's in the high 30s/low 40s. I don't mean to be a bitch about it, but that's chilly, and single digit temps aren't far away. It's kind of killing my mood too because I was making really good progress. My 7+ miles a day has become 3.5 because of the weather. I have the treadmill, but after about 10 minutes of that I really start to hate it.

mrs.jingle finally is getting back on the treadmill.  We've got a TV right in front of it, and with an Apple TV, there's an app called Happy Trails - a virtual / simulated walking or running video.  1-week free trial; $7.99 / mo after that.  When I get on the exercise bike (I hate the treadmill), I typically like to fire up my concert DVDs... great way to multi-task.

Do other forms of exercise interest you, Brian?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 19, 2020, 12:37:34 PM
I'm feeling Chino's energy right now. I get off work at 5 and the sunset is clocking in at 6:05, and the cold is beginning to get rough in the morning and evening. And since the gym still enforces mask wearing, I'm not about to sign back up for the winter like I had planned to. I guess I'll just bundle up more and hope we don't get much snow. Exercising at home is nice but I want that fresh air still.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Chino on October 19, 2020, 12:40:05 PM
I'm starting to feel myself lose steam. After months of going hard and getting to 92lbs lost, I think I'm finally starting to get tired and hit a wall. It's not helping at all that winter is rapidly approaching. It's raining a lot more often, and when I go outside at 5:30 to start my morning walk, and it's in the high 30s/low 40s. I don't mean to be a bitch about it, but that's chilly, and single digit temps aren't far away. It's kind of killing my mood too because I was making really good progress. My 7+ miles a day has become 3.5 because of the weather. I have the treadmill, but after about 10 minutes of that I really start to hate it.

mrs.jingle finally is getting back on the treadmill.  We've got a TV right in front of it, and with an Apple TV, there's an app called Happy Trails - a virtual / simulated walking or running video.  1-week free trial; $7.99 / mo after that.  When I get on the exercise bike (I hate the treadmill), I typically like to fire up my concert DVDs... great way to multi-task.

Do other forms of exercise interest you, Brian?

I wouldn't mind having a quality recumbent bike. It's not so much the exercise of the treadmill that bothers me. I mean, I like jogging outside and all. I just feel like it's not stimulating and there's no reward outside the health aspects. When I'm exercising outside, there's a million different routes I could take. It's an opportunity to hang with my dog, get some air, observe and say hello to my neighbors, see the nurses from the nearby medical facility on their lunch walk every day, have the occasional bear encounter, breathe fresh air, see the sun rise, etc..   

Even with a TV, I just find myself bored beyond belief on a treadmill. It feels like a chore, whereas going outside feels like enjoyment even if you ignore the healthy elements. Twenty minutes feels like an hour, and an hour feels like a work day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 19, 2020, 12:42:15 PM
I'm feeling Chino's energy right now. I get off work at 5 and the sunset is clocking in at 6:05, and the cold is beginning to get rough in the morning and evening. And since the gym still enforces mask wearing, I'm not about to sign back up for the winter like I had planned to. I guess I'll just bundle up more and hope we don't get much snow. Exercising at home is nice but I want that fresh air still.

Yeah it's now officially the season where I leave my apartment and it's dark, I get back from work and it's dark again. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2020, 12:57:14 PM
My thought on things getting stale is to maybe try to change it up.  I've been biking in my basement that the walk outside this weekend felt refreshing and re-invigorating.  I dont know though, I've experienced my own ups and downs.  I think a short break could be OK too, like you've done so well so maybe taking a few days off to change your mindset a bit can help. 

I've found that watching TV shows helps the time go by on my basement bike rides.  Like, binge watch a show but only when I'm on the bike and then I find myself wanting to bike more to keep up with the show, or if I'm tired but there's like 5 more minutes, I push on.  I've watched almost all of this season of Big Brother while biking (there's 3x 1 hour episodes a week) and this is the final week so I've got to find a new TV show for my biking sessions.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 01:24:18 PM
I guess that's the rub with a firm correlation between exercise program and the outdoors - when the weather outside is shit and uncooperative, that puts a dent in the fitness plans.  For me, I'm much more centered around weights and HIIT as my primary activities.  Outdoors is nice to have for the latter, and/or a routine that I can do with a single set of DBs.  But otherwise, just switching to bike/treadmill is itself mixing it up for me - so I've got no beefs with that.

Different strokes, or as I like to say .... TASTESTM
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 19, 2020, 01:27:30 PM
I'd like to get some weights but it's not in the budget right now unfortunately. I guess I could do a Herschel Walker and just do 1500 pushups and situps every day
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Chino on October 19, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
I understand supply and demand, but I can't believe what home weights are selling for right now. What I bought 3 years ago for $200 would be $750 today, minimum.

No joke.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 19, 2020, 02:00:34 PM
Another suggestion if you really hate your treadmill is to do harder workouts on the bloody thing. It still won't get you outdoors, but if you don't like boredom, just spend less time on it. If you're walking for an hour right now, try 20 minutes with a good incline. Or what always worked for me back in the day was to do 1 min hard 1 min easy intervals. It makes a workout go so much faster because you're clock watching with a purpose when every minute you have to change something (pace or incline).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 19, 2020, 02:06:04 PM
^^ that always worked for me. 30 seconds sprint, 1 minute rest. 20 cycles is half an hour and you'll be feeling it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2020, 02:08:48 PM
I split my time between the bike and dumbbell exercises.  Like do 3 miles on the bike (10 minutes) then do a round of weight training and then get back on the bike and so on.  In 30 minutes, you'll have done a solid work out.  If time allows (it usually does on my work from home days) then I come back and do it again.  I have a hard time doing one activity for so long, plus my butt starts to hurt on the bike so I really don't like doing a full hour of just biking unless I'm really trying to push myself that day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 19, 2020, 02:17:10 PM
Still better on the outside though.

I kinda get Brian's point of view. There's no way I'll be running on a treadmill. I enjoy the exercise but mostly I enjoy views and the nature and the overall atmosphere on my runs. That's why I always wanted to get into running/biking. I mean, the treadmill is certainly better than nothing, but I'd rather get warmer clothes and bundle up and still do the outside thing.

I watched a video a few months ago right before I got into running about the running community of people in Oymyakon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oymyakon), a Russian settlement in the north-east. They run the whole year. Here's a quote from the article:

Quote
Some years the temperature drops below 0 °C (32 °F) in late September and may remain below freezing until mid-April. In Oymyakon sometimes the average minimum temperature for December, January, and February remains below −50 °C (−58 °F). Sometimes summer months can also be quite cold, but June and July are the only months where the temperature has never dropped below −10 °C (14 °F). Oymyakon and Verkhoyansk are the only two permanently inhabited places in the world that have recorded temperatures below −60.0 °C (−76 °F) for every day in January.

Oymyakon has never recorded an above-freezing temperature between 25 October and 17 March.

I mean if they can do it, I see no excuse to stop doing outside walks at 0°F or -15°С. But watch me take that statement back when my city hits -15°C. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 02:32:40 PM
I understand supply and demand, but I can't believe what home weights are selling for right now. What I bought 3 years ago for $200 would be $750 today, minimum.

No joke.

That's because virtually the whole world has to transition their gym membership to a home gym.  Took me 3 weeks to find a place that had plates, but fortunately, they were still legit on their prices.  $500 CAD (includes taxes) for a 275lb set, and a 6' Olympic Bar.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 02:35:27 PM
I think you either have to adapt and suck it up, or as Cram said change it up.  You get stale doing similar things, it's only natural you need to alter things.  Sometimes you have to think about the reasons you are doing what you are doing.  Also keep goals in mind.  Hopefully the drive of your success and progress can keep you powering through those tough times.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 02:38:45 PM
Still better on the outside though.

I kinda get Brian's point of view. There's no way I'll be running on a treadmill. I enjoy the exercise but mostly I enjoy views and the nature and the overall atmosphere on my runs. That's why I always wanted to get into running/biking. I mean, the treadmill is certainly better than nothing, but I'd rather get warmer clothes and bundle up and still do the outside thing.

I watched a video a few months ago right before I got into running about the running community of people in Oymyakon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oymyakon), a Russian settlement in the north-east. They run the whole year. Here's a quote from the article:

Quote
Some years the temperature drops below 0 °C (32 °F) in late September and may remain below freezing until mid-April. In Oymyakon sometimes the average minimum temperature for December, January, and February remains below −50 °C (−58 °F). Sometimes summer months can also be quite cold, but June and July are the only months where the temperature has never dropped below −10 °C (14 °F). Oymyakon and Verkhoyansk are the only two permanently inhabited places in the world that have recorded temperatures below −60.0 °C (−76 °F) for every day in January.

Oymyakon has never recorded an above-freezing temperature between 25 October and 17 March.

I mean if they can do it, I see no excuse to stop doing outside walks at 0°F or -15°С. But watch me take that statement back when my city hits -15°C. :lol

During the winter I was much preferring running on the treadmill as opposed to the 5 degree C mornings when I could.  I did that for a bit and was challenging so I think I have a bit of an idea on what you guys are saying.  It was a challenge getting up at 5am and running in the dark and the cold during COVIDCOVID indeed and certainly needed to dig deep.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 19, 2020, 02:45:28 PM


I mean if they can do it, I see no excuse to stop doing outside walks at 0°F or -15°С. But watch me take that statement back when my city hits -15°C. :lol

I had a similar conversation with some mtb riding friends yesterday after having to pull teeth to get them to come out for the ride. These 2 guys have been mulling over whether or not to buy fat bikes for winter trails, and I pointed out that if they can't be motivated to ride trails when it's only -5C (as it was yesterday), then there's no way in hell they'd ever ride fat bikes at -20C or colder in January/February.

I will honestly tell you that I'd rather run/walk/cycle/insert just about any other activity in -30C temps than +30C. I can dress in layers if need be for the cold, but once you hit a certain level of heat there's nothing you can do be suffer. Fuck that, I'll wear a jacket.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 05:55:42 PM
Nah, not me. I love working out on my pool deck when it’s 30 ish degrees. I’ll put up the umbrella, and do some HIIT in the shade, and get a mean sweat going. Plus, it’s the only place I can skip rope, as I don’t have the ceiling clearance in my workout room.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 06:50:51 PM
Nah, not me. I love working out on my pool deck when it’s 30 ish degrees. I’ll put up the umbrella, and do some HIIT in the shade, and get a mean sweat going. Plus, it’s the only place I can skip rope, as I don’t have the ceiling clearance in my workout room.

For some reason, reading this gave me a real Top Gun beach volleyball scene image in my head.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 07:01:02 PM
Nah, not me. I love working out on my pool deck when it’s 30 ish degrees. I’ll put up the umbrella, and do some HIIT in the shade, and get a mean sweat going. Plus, it’s the only place I can skip rope, as I don’t have the ceiling clearance in my workout room.

For some reason, reading this game me a real Top Gun beach volleyball scene image in my head.

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 19, 2020, 07:10:14 PM
So at 29, first time in my life - knee pain. F. I think the main cause are in-and-out abs (basically jumping in from a plank, as one does in the first part of a burpee). After triggering this pain a few times, I'm gonna take a two week break, as I've been pounding my body pretty hard these past three months or so. Then I'll figure out what to do next.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2020, 05:56:16 AM
So at 29, first time in my life - knee pain. F. I think the main cause are in-and-out abs (basically jumping in from a plank, as one does in the first part of a burpee). After triggering this pain a few times, I'm gonna take a two week break, as I've been pounding my body pretty hard these past three months or so. Then I'll figure out what to do next.

Are you doing lots of stretching mate?  I've found a lot of simple knee pain can be alleviated by a lot of good quad and hip flexor stretching.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 20, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
So at 29, first time in my life - knee pain. F. I think the main cause are in-and-out abs (basically jumping in from a plank, as one does in the first part of a burpee). After triggering this pain a few times, I'm gonna take a two week break, as I've been pounding my body pretty hard these past three months or so. Then I'll figure out what to do next.

Are you doing lots of stretching mate?  I've found a lot of simple knee pain can be alleviated by a lot of good quad and hip flexor stretching.
When I was running, honestly no. But with Insanity, they've got stretching, which feels substantial. A lot of hip flexor stretching. I think I've just been doing it for too long and too hard. It's not supposed to be a permanent program, and they acknowledge this.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2020, 11:04:27 AM
So at 29, first time in my life - knee pain. F. I think the main cause are in-and-out abs (basically jumping in from a plank, as one does in the first part of a burpee). After triggering this pain a few times, I'm gonna take a two week break, as I've been pounding my body pretty hard these past three months or so. Then I'll figure out what to do next.

Are you doing lots of stretching mate?  I've found a lot of simple knee pain can be alleviated by a lot of good quad and hip flexor stretching.
When I was running, honestly no. But with Insanity, they've got stretching, which feels substantial. A lot of hip flexor stretching. I think I've just been doing it for too long and too hard. It's not supposed to be a permanent program, and they acknowledge this.

Yeah, a lot of those plank movements in the program can be punishing on the knees.  Coupled with the amount of jumping, it's a grind.  Better question ( :biggrin:), what kind of surface are you on?  Do you have nice foam tiles or a good thick mat?  I found that made a huge difference.  Same with the quality of shoes you have.  A couple years ago I was doing it straight on my back deck - no mat at all, and often times with just my 5-finger shoes (which have NO arch support).  Carpeting alone won't absorb much of the shock.

All these little things can add up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 24, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Not sure if it's because i haven't done any real leg work since the start of road cycling season, but yesterday i did a deck of cards with goblet squats and deadlifts, and I'm fucking devastated right now. I can't even really say i did the deck because i stopped after 25min with a full 1/3 of the cards still neatly stacked, patiently waiting their turn. I'm struggling to bend down to pick anything up from the floor
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2020, 01:18:40 PM
I'm about to start month 2 of the Max Size program tonight, and I'm (not) looking forward to it.  Chest/Tris tonight, and mother of god does this look like it's going to knock me on my ass.  Quads/hammies tomorrow looks even more of a bitch-slap
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2020, 03:34:41 PM
I'm about to start month 2 of the Max Size program tonight, and I'm (not) looking forward to it.  Chest/Tris tonight, and mother of god does this look like it's going to knock me on my ass.  Quads/hammies tomorrow looks even more of a bitch-slap

Attack that shit mate.  Get into it, enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2020, 04:34:47 PM
I'm about to start month 2 of the Max Size program tonight, and I'm (not) looking forward to it.  Chest/Tris tonight, and mother of god does this look like it's going to knock me on my ass.  Quads/hammies tomorrow looks even more of a bitch-slap

Attack that shit mate.  Get into it, enjoy it.

Here's what I have in store tonight:

Chest:
1a: Floor flyes (6-9 rep max)
1b: Incline db press (6-9 rep max)
<2 sets; super; 2-min rest between supersets>

2: Incline db press iso-hold (at bottom) to failure
<3 sets; 90 second rest between)

3. BB bench press (6-9 rep max)
<5 sets>

4. DB incline bench (bottom 1/2 range of motion; reps to failure) --> Dip iso hold (30 seconds) --> Cable x-overs (perform only crossover range of motion (reps to failure)
<1 set, complete cycle>

Tris:
1a: Kickbacks (6-9 rep max)
1b: Incline db extension (6-9 rep max)
<2 sets; super; 2-min rest between supersets>

2: Incline db extension iso hold (to failure)
<3 sets; 90 second rest between)

3. Close grip bench press (6-9 rep max)
<5 sets>

4. Tri pushdowns to failure; 30 second rest, then 1/5x number of reps (pause when needed, but don't release the bar/rope)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2020, 05:12:35 AM
Chad, do you ever feel following a strict workout routine can be somewhat a distraction to the actual workout?

For me when I'm locked in and in the zone, there is nothing I would hate more than reading a piece of paper or my phone for the next exercise and rep range.  Does it not take any of the impulse and momentum away from the training?  Serious question.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2020, 06:16:24 AM
Chad, do you ever feel following a strict workout routine can be somewhat a distraction to the actual workout?

For me when I'm locked in and in the zone, there is nothing I would hate more than reading a piece of paper or my phone for the next exercise and rep range.  Does it not take any of the impulse and momentum away from the training?  Serious question.

Totally fair question.  And I see your point, and how it can be an interruption or distraction.  But no, I've never thought that at all.  For me, I've always found I got my best results when following a program.  I'm no PT, so whenever I try to do things entirely on my own, it seems like I'm winging it with no decent plan, and no understanding of what I should be doing to maximize results and my time.  I basically look at the programs that I've done (p90x, Insanity, the Athlean-X ones I've done, along with a couple of others) as a virtual personal trainer.  I'll gladly take the advice of guys with years/decades of experience in personal training, expert advice, best practices, guidance on form etc... .  I only look at my iPad as a reminder of the movement/rep-range during my rest times anyway, so it's no biggie as far as I'm concerned.  I have a white-board in my workout room where I can write down my results, then input them into the tracker tool after the workout.

The Athlean programs have brief walk-thru videos to demonstrate the moves/sets/timing (they're usually between 4-12 minutes depending on how many movements there are), and I'll watch those before my workout, so in all actuality, there isn't a lot of referring back to my device.  The p90x and Insanity programs were follow-along videos, so that wasn't a chore at all.

That's just me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 25, 2020, 01:03:05 PM
The only time i ever followed a program strictly there were rest intervals between sets, so i would just look up the next move during my last rest interval. But I'm also the type of person who would check every move in the without to make sure:

 a)i know how to do the moves
 b) have the equipment/weights for the exercises
 c) don't need to, or already did, modify/replace any exercises i shouldn't do because of injury or physical limitation (i.e. my osteoarthritis)

Wolf, i will say that anytime i do a new workout that has no rest until the end (usually 6 or 7min of EMOM exercises, followed by a rest interval) i find that m distracted in those last 10 or so seconds of every minute while i look up the next exercise. In those cases though I've probably written then out in large print on paper and taped it to the wall in my gym.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 25, 2020, 06:55:22 PM
I agree with following something strict, but also that loading the phone up is a buzzkill. When I actually went to the gym back in the day (back in March), I kept all my workouts on an index card, so I could quickly check what my new weight would be and so on. It worked well for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 25, 2020, 07:43:52 PM
I agree with following something strict, but also that loading the phone up is a buzzkill. When I actually went to the gym back in the day (back in March), I kept all my workouts on an index card, so I could quickly check what my new weight would be and so on. It worked well for me.
If i had to go to a gym I'd do the same thing too. Way better than a phone
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2020, 08:32:02 PM
I agree with following something strict, but also that loading the phone up is a buzzkill. When I actually went to the gym back in the day (back in March), I kept all my workouts on an index card, so I could quickly check what my new weight would be and so on. It worked well for me.

I also have a couple of notebooks with routines (weights, and HIIT) in them.  I've also used few apps for better/easier tracking.  The Athlean routines come with a portal to follow the program, and track results, which is very handy (to see what weight/rep/sets I was at the last time I did a particular exercise).  Progressive overload, BABY!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2020, 09:36:53 PM
Cheers for the thoughts lads.  Breaking it down I guess it wouldn't be that much of a distraction.  I guess I should try a strict program sometimes and see what I can get out of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 26, 2020, 09:31:53 AM
I agree with following something strict, but also that loading the phone up is a buzzkill. When I actually went to the gym back in the day (back in March), I kept all my workouts on an index card, so I could quickly check what my new weight would be and so on. It worked well for me.
If i had to go to a gym I'd do the same thing too. Way better than a phone
Another benefit is that it forced me to adequately game-plan for workouts by sitting down and writing out what I was going to do. Also, during the workout, it's kinda nice to have a benchmark, especially on days where I'm feeling lazy. "I just have to do these sets, then I get to go home"

@ JingleBoy
After getting runners knee, and getting kinda bored/stressed out with doing Insanity for 3 months, I think I am switching to P90X. I kinda want to get some of that resistance training back in now that I am pretty leaned out from Insanity. I've lifted at a high-intermediate level before (multi-plate bench, deadlift, squat), but honestly haven't lifted since March. Think I'll be OK? Should I do P90, P90X3, or something else instead? I just bought some dumbbells that go up to 66 pounds.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 09:44:26 AM
The resistance training in P90x is about 1/2 body-weight; 1/2 DBs.  You'll need the latter for shoulder work, biceps, some triceps, and additional weight for legs (eg, lunges).  Chest is exclusively pushups; back is exclusively pullups - so you'll need a pullup bar.  The program inter-mixes cardio and resistance about 50/50.  Whatever you need for a shoulder press, that's probably the heaviest DB weight you'd need.

I've never done any of them other than p90x, so I can't comment on those.  I think it's a great program overall.  I've done it fully 3 times over the years, and often used the individual routines in-and-of-themselves.  In fact, I was gonna load it up after I finish the program I'm in right now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 26, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
Since the cold's begun seeping in, I've set a new goal for myself. With a deck of cards workout, I do 104 reps of each exercise. Well, my uncle is in his early 60s and after he retired he started biking and exercising like crazy, lost over 100 pounds and now he does 500 pushups and 500 situps every day, as well as other exercises and biking anywhere from 30-60 (or much more) miles a day. So I have no excuse! This weekend I went after it. On Saturday I did 200 pushups and 200 situps. I feel like death right now, but I'm working to get to that point. With no gym, and no weights, I gotta get creative, and the idea of being able to bang out 100 pushups whenever I want is a really tantalizing goal, so I'll be back at it today with another 200 pushups/situps. And it's super attainable since I just have to throw on a podcast and go for it. I have a thing about mindless repetition and chasing those high numbers scratches some kind of mental itch for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 09:59:18 AM
Suggestion for you MJ... invest in one of those doorway pullup bars.  I see 'em on Amazon for about $60CAD.  Pullups are a great full-body movement - forearms, shoulders, biceps, back.  No, you're kind tall, so it might be a tight fit - when I was using the doorway bar, my knees almost touched the ground.  IMO, pull-up bar is fundamental for any home gym plans.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 26, 2020, 10:04:17 AM
Suggestion for you MJ... invest in one of those doorway pullup bars.  I see 'em on Amazon for about $60CAD.  Pullups are a great full-body movement - forearms, shoulders, biceps, back.  No, you're kind tall, so it might be a tight fit - when I was using the doorway bar, my knees almost touched the ground.  IMO, pull-up bar is fundamental for any home gym plans.

I've thought about them but I just don't trust putting that much stress on the doorway. Note that I know nothing about architecture or the structural integrity of doorways in this context but I have mad anxiety about using those, just exerting that much downward force while lifting a 200 pound man doesn't seem like a good idea to me. If I did buy one it would wait until I buy a house, frankly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Chino on October 26, 2020, 10:13:14 AM
Suggestion for you MJ... invest in one of those doorway pullup bars.  I see 'em on Amazon for about $60CAD.  Pullups are a great full-body movement - forearms, shoulders, biceps, back.  No, you're kind tall, so it might be a tight fit - when I was using the doorway bar, my knees almost touched the ground.  IMO, pull-up bar is fundamental for any home gym plans.

I've thought about them but I just don't trust putting that much stress on the doorway. Note that I know nothing about architecture or the structural integrity of doorways in this context but I have mad anxiety about using those, just exerting that much downward force while lifting a 200 pound man doesn't seem like a good idea to me. If I did buy one it would wait until I buy a house, frankly.

In theory, the heavier you are, the more secure it'll be.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 11:17:14 AM
Suggestion for you MJ... invest in one of those doorway pullup bars.  I see 'em on Amazon for about $60CAD.  Pullups are a great full-body movement - forearms, shoulders, biceps, back.  No, you're kind tall, so it might be a tight fit - when I was using the doorway bar, my knees almost touched the ground.  IMO, pull-up bar is fundamental for any home gym plans.

I've thought about them but I just don't trust putting that much stress on the doorway. Note that I know nothing about architecture or the structural integrity of doorways in this context but I have mad anxiety about using those, just exerting that much downward force while lifting a 200 pound man doesn't seem like a good idea to me. If I did buy one it would wait until I buy a house, frankly.

In theory, the heavier you are, the more secure it'll be.

Brian's got it.  They way the physics works, there is very little downward pressure.  It's more like a vice.  It essentially 'squeezes' the wall via the door frame.  I was a svelt 215lbs at one point when I used it, and never an issue.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fc5%2Fa6%2F4b%2Fc5a64bf0e1504a98d5d70d625cd66930.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

This one actually looks great, and gives you additional clearance

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.thewirecutter.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F10%2Fpullupbars-lowres-1134.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on October 26, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Interesting! I will pick one up then. Pull ups are the thing I need to improve the most.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Chino on October 26, 2020, 11:52:23 AM
Pro-tip: Don't ever run through the doorway and tried to swing on the bar like Tarzan. It's meant to be secure with vertical movement, not horizontal movement. Back in college I did that and ended up immobile for about two weeks with a back injury.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:01:37 PM
Pro-tip: Don't ever run through the doorway and tried to swing on the bar like Tarzan. It's meant to be secure with vertical movement, not horizontal movement. Back in college I did that and ended up immobile for about two weeks with a back injury.

Yeah, but did you make it in the campus paper?   :lol

This can be considered "The Pre-Chino"
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 26, 2020, 01:14:24 PM
The only doorways in my place are such that I can't lift myself over the bar without hitting my head on the ceiling (the ceiling connect to the top of the door frame). ;_;
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2020, 10:22:25 AM
Didn't know where to post this.....this seemed like the most related thread.

This past weekend I had quite the physical workout. Saturday morning I ran an 8 mile trail run race...which for some would seem far which it is but it's really manageable for those who run a bit. Then, I went from that to a reunion Legion Baseball game where I caught all 5 innings of the scrimmage. Live pitching, balls and strikes....a legit baseball game. It was a blast!! It had been 26 years since I faced live pitching or had thrown the catching gear on. Had so much fun!!! Then sunday night I played two ice hockey games. Played my regular league game and filled in for another team.

My legs were a tad tired Monday  :lol  Still some residual body soreness....especially in my right arm from throwing so many balls back to the pitcher and down to second base.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 02:58:11 PM
That distance is indeed manageable, but inclines still kill me if there's too many of them.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2020, 03:03:24 PM
That distance is indeed manageable, but inclines still kill me if there's too many of them.

The state park that the race is held in is nothing but hills...so, not much of it is very level. It's a lot of varying terrain. I run a Half Marathon trail race at the same state park each spring and it's name is the 'Quiver River Quivering Quads'  :lol  And it's aptly named given after 13.1 miles of those hills your quads are indeed quivering.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 03:08:45 PM
That distance is indeed manageable, but inclines still kill me if there's too many of them.

The state park that the race is held in is nothing but hills...so, not much of it is very level. It's a lot of varying terrain. I run a Half Marathon trail race at the same state park each spring and it's name is the 'Quiver River Quivering Quads'  :lol  And it's aptly named given after 13.1 miles of those hills your quads are indeed quivering.

Wow mate, that's bloody epic.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2020, 03:16:32 PM
That distance is indeed manageable, but inclines still kill me if there's too many of them.

The state park that the race is held in is nothing but hills...so, not much of it is very level. It's a lot of varying terrain. I run a Half Marathon trail race at the same state park each spring and it's name is the 'Quiver River Quivering Quads'  :lol  And it's aptly named given after 13.1 miles of those hills your quads are indeed quivering.

Wow mate, that's bloody epic.

It's more difficult each year.....and the time it takes me to complete it increases as well. In 2012 when I ran my first one there I finished it in 2 hours 6 minutes......which is pretty fast for me considering it's all trail run. Over the years I've typically been around the 2 hour 20-30 minute range as I've aged.

This past spring my time was 2 hours 47 minutes. I stay moving the whole time and don't walk but my pace is nothing like it used to be.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
How long have you been running for?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:24:32 PM
How long have you been running for?

Just over 2.5 hours. Are you not paying attention?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 06:36:54 PM
How long have you been running for?

Just over 2.5 hours. Are you not paying attention?

You all know I'm shit at paying attention!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2020, 07:11:23 PM
How long have you been running for?

Since 2007....really got into it after I lost 75lbs and  From about 2009-2017 I ran minimum of 5 miles 4-6 days a week.

The last couple year it’s been more along the lines of 2-3 days a week. I run that spring trail half every year and usually this fall 8 mile run also. I’ve done two full marathons and I honestly would have to sit and figure out how many half marathons. I was doing two or three a summer back when I was running all the time.

These days I run more for the mental health aspect of it than the actual exercise aspect. I find if it’s been a day or two and I haven’t ran I start getting cranky.

Never thought I’d be a ‘runner’ but I do enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:12:25 PM
How long have you been running for?

Since 2007....really got into it after I lost 75lbs and  From about 2009-2017 I ran minimum of 5 miles 4-6 days a week.

The last couple year it’s been more along the lines of 2-3 days a week. I run that spring trail half every year and usually this fall 8 mile run also. I’ve done two full marathons and I honestly would have to sit and figure out how many half marathons. I was doing two or three a summer back when I was running all the time.

These days I run more for the mental health aspect of it than the actual exercise aspect. I find if it’s been a day or two and I haven’t ran I start getting cranky.

Never thought I’d be a ‘runner’ but I do enjoy it.


I can relate to a lot of this, especially the bolded parts.  5 miles 4-6 days a week is absolutely huge numbers too mate.  I'd love to do that but my work schedule probably wouldn't allow me to push those sorts of numbers.

Well done on the weight loss too.  It's amazing how it's hard in the past trying to loose weight, but becoming a runner and doing decent distances, it's hard keeping the weight on haha!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2020, 09:21:54 PM
Just popping in to say that what you guys do running is awesome.

Not for me though. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:36:33 PM
Just popping in to say that what you guys do running is awesome.

Not for me though. ;D

Thanks pal.  It definitely ain't for everyone.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2020, 10:14:12 PM
Not for me either, but certainly impressive.

I wasn't feeling the hottest the last two days so I took a break from the routine, hit the bike hard this morning though to try and make up for some of it.  I also went to the same local park again on Friday (I was off from work) and hit one of the trails I didnt do last time and did one of the others again.  Really enjoyed these walks.  Hope the weather is good enough again this weekend to keep doing them.  I think I'll try the next longer one next time too. Tthis is in conjunction to my bike riding as these walks dont really add up to the calorie burning I get from the bike, but adds a nice change of pace/scenery to keep things fresh.

Also, is there anything more peaceful than walking through the woods with no one around and nothing but the sounds of nature?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCdZiFXgAEVXpm?format=jpg&name=large)

And one thing I noticed, is there's a few joggers going through on these and I got to give them credit.  Not just for running and exercising, but it takes a certain amount of agility and balance to not fall.  Even just walking, a few times I almost stumbled slipping on leaves or from a tree branch on the ground.  Reading Gary's run and thinking about my walks, makes me think that these runners are even more impressive than I thought.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2020, 11:29:23 PM
Marc...I’ve wiped out hard a handful of times. Trail running takes a lot of concentration. You can kick a root or rock at any moment and bust your a$$.  :lol  Which I’ve done. It’s a horrible feeling as it’s happening because it’s so sudden and unexpected. It always happens when you start not paying attention.....especially late in races when your legs are more tired and your feet start to drag a bit.

But that’s what makes it fun. There can be stretches of time when it’s just you and the woods and the trail and no one else around. It’s very peaceful. Much more enjoyable than a road or track run.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2020, 11:46:28 PM
Yea, I can totally see that happening, also in the middle of a trail, if you hurt yourself, you aren't getting back very easily.  Just makes me think how much harder and more intense that type of running is and I never really thought about it before since I'm really not a runner.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2020, 12:02:14 AM
The very high risk of injury always astounded me with people doing that sort of running.  I'm pretty gumby as it is so reckon I'd hurt myself very easily haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 28, 2020, 07:33:28 AM
The very high risk of injury always astounded me with people doing that sort of running.  I'm pretty gumby as it is so reckon I'd hurt myself very easily haha.

I'm also a long-time trail-runner, and while I've definitely caught a root once or twice, in the fifteen years I've been running (which is at least 15,000 miles, give or take), I've never once rolled my ankle or otherwise had any sort of major injury. As others have stated, I think the constant vigilence (nothing forces you to be more present and in the moment like a trail run) of running on uneven ground is an assett.

The training pays dividends when it comes to road races. I ran a 10k last year on a lark, having not run a single mile on asphalt all summer, but the day of the race, I couldn't believe my speed. All that unintentional hill work paid off, and I wound up winning the damn thing.

You also need to grade trail running differently. An 8 minute mile on trails is pretty fast for me (anything faster is almost dangerous), but I'm a 6 minute mile easy on road, so there's definitely a different scale there as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 28, 2020, 07:46:24 AM
Good point on the sliding scale of time. When I road run I can knock 5 miles out in 40 minutes give or take a few. It’s definitely less demanding

And, I’m the same on the trail injuries. I’ve yet to roll an ankle or really hurt myself. Just a few kicked roots and rocks and some wipeouts.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 28, 2020, 09:10:38 AM
The rolling of the ankle is a big reason why I don't run.  I have terrible ankles.  I'm flat footed and my ankles are double jointed (I can bend them naturally in ways they should not be bent) and it's lead to loose knees.  I've rolled my ankle and bent my knee sideways just from stumbling while walking many times, so even when I walk a trail, I'm pretty damn slow because I'm trying to keep balance and not trip up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2020, 01:42:12 PM
The rolling of the ankle is a big reason why I don't run.  I have terrible ankles.  I'm flat footed and my ankles are double jointed (I can bend them naturally in ways they should not be bent) and it's lead to loose knees.  I've rolled my ankle and bent my knee sideways just from stumbling while walking many times, so even when I walk a trail, I'm pretty damn slow because I'm trying to keep balance and not trip up.

I've always been a bit gumby and my balance is shocking but with anything, you get better with practice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on October 28, 2020, 02:25:15 PM
Home from vacation! Now tomorrow morning I get to step on the scale for the first time in a week and see how badly I did while away.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on October 28, 2020, 02:51:46 PM
Home from vacation! Now tomorrow morning I get to step on the scale for the first time in a week and see how badly I did while away.

Got to live a little while on vacation, don't let whatever you might have gained distract you from your goals.

The rolling of the ankle is a big reason why I don't run.  I have terrible ankles.  I'm flat footed and my ankles are double jointed (I can bend them naturally in ways they should not be bent) and it's lead to loose knees.  I've rolled my ankle and bent my knee sideways just from stumbling while walking many times, so even when I walk a trail, I'm pretty damn slow because I'm trying to keep balance and not trip up.

I've always been a bit gumby and my balance is shocking but with anything, you get better with practice.

Sure, but I don't think practice is going to fix my flat feet and naturally bad legs.  I have no doubt I'd get better with practice, but it's not worth the risk of a potential injury IMO that I almost feel is a guarantee if I started running trails. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 28, 2020, 04:30:38 PM
Home from vacation! Now tomorrow morning I get to step on the scale for the first time in a week and see how badly I did while away.

Got to live a little while on vacation, don't let whatever you might have gained distract you from your goals.

The rolling of the ankle is a big reason why I don't run.  I have terrible ankles.  I'm flat footed and my ankles are double jointed (I can bend them naturally in ways they should not be bent) and it's lead to loose knees.  I've rolled my ankle and bent my knee sideways just from stumbling while walking many times, so even when I walk a trail, I'm pretty damn slow because I'm trying to keep balance and not trip up.

I've always been a bit gumby and my balance is shocking but with anything, you get better with practice.

Sure, but I don't think practice is going to fix my flat feet and naturally bad legs.  I have no doubt I'd get better with practice, but it's not worth the risk of a potential injury IMO that I almost feel is a guarantee if I started running trails.

Hey man, running is far from the 'end all, be all'...and it's certainly not for everyone. After all, the best exercise is that which you can do consistently injury-free.

To be honest, for my money, in terms of pure blood, sweat, and tears, nothing beats a quality rowing machine. Minute for minute, it's hands down the most ass-kicking workout I've ever entertained.

A rower is on my list for next year for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 28, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
Machine wise I LOVE a quality stair master. Program a tiered workout for 45-60 minutes and you burn some calories. Back when I decided to lose weight the stair master at my gym was my go to.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2020, 08:03:19 PM
Home from vacation! Now tomorrow morning I get to step on the scale for the first time in a week and see how badly I did while away.

Got to live a little while on vacation, don't let whatever you might have gained distract you from your goals.

The rolling of the ankle is a big reason why I don't run.  I have terrible ankles.  I'm flat footed and my ankles are double jointed (I can bend them naturally in ways they should not be bent) and it's lead to loose knees.  I've rolled my ankle and bent my knee sideways just from stumbling while walking many times, so even when I walk a trail, I'm pretty damn slow because I'm trying to keep balance and not trip up.

I've always been a bit gumby and my balance is shocking but with anything, you get better with practice.

Sure, but I don't think practice is going to fix my flat feet and naturally bad legs.  I have no doubt I'd get better with practice, but it's not worth the risk of a potential injury IMO that I almost feel is a guarantee if I started running trails.

Hey man, running is far from the 'end all, be all'...and it's certainly not for everyone. After all, the best exercise is that which you can do consistently injury-free.

To be honest, for my money, in terms of pure blood, sweat, and tears, nothing beats a quality rowing machine. Minute for minute, it's hands down the most ass-kicking workout I've ever entertained.

A rower is on my list for next year for sure.

Did some rowing work last night to have a day off running.  It fucking kicked my ass.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on October 31, 2020, 01:31:05 AM
I include little bits of trail running in my runs but it's still mostly road runs. I imagine trail running would be way more difficult than what I do now, haha. I'd love to do a complete trail run one day. I'll probably get to it next year.

Back at training in full force after a week break due to the business trip, 8.5 km today in 49 minutes. Getting closer to the 10k! I'm absolutely knackered now though. :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/DhRodd6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2020, 05:53:07 AM
Nice.  I'm about to do coffee-yoga.  Haven't done yoga in about 6 weeks ... maybe longer.  I really should try to squeeze it in more regularly, and with the current program I'm on, Saturday mornings just might be the perfect day to do it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 31, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
First time touching a weight since March in the P90x chest/back workout. Where did all my strength go, lol? I could do 8 pullups only, then tanked after that and in every subsequent set. In March I was doing 45-lb weighted pullups for sets of 12. FML
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2020, 04:10:14 PM
First time touching a weight since March in the P90x chest/back workout. Where did all my strength go, lol? I could do 8 pullups only, then tanked after that and in every subsequent set. In March I was doing 45-lb weighted pullups for sets of 12. FML

WOW!   :omg:  (on both counts - how strong you were, and how much you've lost in 6 months).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2020, 05:24:14 PM
First time touching a weight since March in the P90x chest/back workout. Where did all my strength go, lol? I could do 8 pullups only, then tanked after that and in every subsequent set. In March I was doing 45-lb weighted pullups for sets of 12. FML

Over 6 months, I think that would be somewhat normal wouldn't it?  I wouldn't worry too much, you'll get back to those stats pretty quick mate.  Bloody impressive numbers you were doing too mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on October 31, 2020, 05:31:28 PM
Use it or lose it I guess, eh? But wolfie, you're right, I think I can get back in a short while. It's a lot easier to get back to where you once were if, well, you've been there, I have found. But I'll say, I lose strength sooo quickly if I'm not on it, especially if I'm focused on running or Insanity or another cardio program.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
Use it or lose it I guess, eh? But wolfie, you're right, I think I can get back in a short while. It's a lot easier to get back to where you once were if, well, you've been there, I have found. But I'll say, I lose strength sooo quickly if I'm not on it, especially if I'm focused on running or Insanity or another cardio program.

Nutrition too - overall, and even the day of.  I remember doing p90x Plyo routine once, and thinking 'man, this is a lot easier than it normally is', and then the very next week I was totally gassed doing it.  The only thing I could chalk it up to was the first instance, I'd had a huge lunch with lots of carbs and protein.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2020, 03:05:08 AM
Use it or lose it I guess, eh? But wolfie, you're right, I think I can get back in a short while. It's a lot easier to get back to where you once were if, well, you've been there, I have found. But I'll say, I lose strength sooo quickly if I'm not on it, especially if I'm focused on running or Insanity or another cardio program.

I'm finding out mate that concentrating on running will very much sacrifice the weight training.  I've been trying to find a balance between the two but trying to level out too much makes both suffer somewhat.  The last few weeks I've been trying to put my focus more on lifting and instantly my runs the last couple of weeks have suffered. 

I don't think you'll get back there all that quickly doing those other things mate.  My thinking is, if I'm excelling at one of them and not the other, than that's a good thing.  If both suffer, then that's an issue.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2020, 03:07:32 AM
I include little bits of trail running in my runs but it's still mostly road runs. I imagine trail running would be way more difficult than what I do now, haha. I'd love to do a complete trail run one day. I'll probably get to it next year.

Back at training in full force after a week break due to the business trip, 8.5 km today in 49 minutes. Getting closer to the 10k! I'm absolutely knackered now though. :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/DhRodd6.jpg)

Nice Ruslan.  I've been struggling with my runs the last couple of weeks.  I'm finding out how mental a lot of it is with long running.  Mentally haven't been into it.  Prepare yourself for the 10K.  A trick I've done in the past is actually try and plan to do a 12km run.  Even though your mind is looking at 10K, really keep trying to convince yourself you actually want to crack a 11 or 12Km.  It sounds stupid but it can work.  You'll find you may not be able to stretch to 12km, but it should help in getting to the 10km.  Sounds silly but I've done it to myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on November 01, 2020, 12:52:16 PM
Use it or lose it I guess, eh? But wolfie, you're right, I think I can get back in a short while. It's a lot easier to get back to where you once were if, well, you've been there, I have found. But I'll say, I lose strength sooo quickly if I'm not on it, especially if I'm focused on running or Insanity or another cardio program.

I'm finding out mate that concentrating on running will very much sacrifice the weight training.  I've been trying to find a balance between the two but trying to level out too much makes both suffer somewhat.  The last few weeks I've been trying to put my focus more on lifting and instantly my runs the last couple of weeks have suffered. 

I don't think you'll get back there all that quickly doing those other things mate.  My thinking is, if I'm excelling at one of them and not the other, than that's a good thing.  If both suffer, then that's an issue.
Gosh, I need that reminder. I want to be in enough shape to excel at all these things simultaneously. But to think I can't -- gah!

What do you think about this workout program from reddit, if you get a chance to look at it? I've run the recommended three months every time I'm getting back into it: https://thefitness.wiki/routines/r-fitness-basic-beginner-routine/
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2020, 01:19:47 PM
Maybe some people can excel at both but personally I can't.   
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 01, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Use it or lose it I guess, eh? But wolfie, you're right, I think I can get back in a short while. It's a lot easier to get back to where you once were if, well, you've been there, I have found. But I'll say, I lose strength sooo quickly if I'm not on it, especially if I'm focused on running or Insanity or another cardio program.

I'm finding out mate that concentrating on running will very much sacrifice the weight training.  I've been trying to find a balance between the two but trying to level out too much makes both suffer somewhat.  The last few weeks I've been trying to put my focus more on lifting and instantly my runs the last couple of weeks have suffered. 

I don't think you'll get back there all that quickly doing those other things mate.  My thinking is, if I'm excelling at one of them and not the other, than that's a good thing.  If both suffer, then that's an issue.
Gosh, I need that reminder. I want to be in enough shape to excel at all these things simultaneously. But to think I can't -- gah!

What do you think about this workout program from reddit, if you get a chance to look at it? I've run the recommended three months every time I'm getting back into it: https://thefitness.wiki/routines/r-fitness-basic-beginner-routine/

Just skimmed it quickly.  I mean, it's good - it's the 6 best core/compound exercises that should be part of everyone's routine.  It's essentially a (fairly basic) full-body program.  Both workout A/B hit all/most body parts in some way.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on November 09, 2020, 10:03:49 PM
Last month has been slow, and with some issues, but still doing okay, here is where we're at:

Oct. 19: Was mid-workout, went to do my first squat and nearly went down due to something going out in my back, which at this point seems to be the most common point of major contention in my body.
Oct. 21: Against my better judgement I went to play hockey and made it through okay.
Oct. 22-28: Vacation
Oct. 28: Hockey again.
Oct. 29: Thanks in part to hockey book-ending the vacation and at least 20 miles of walking on vacation only came home at 1lb heavier than when we left, up to 246.
Nov. 6: First time since Oct. 19 I did weights at home, the injury, vacation, work, and dealing with some other fallout (mostly my car getting totalled) made me be lazy on this front. Honestly the time off was more good than bad, felt very good throughout the workout.
Nov. 9: Down to 242, 28lbs total and 4lbs post vacation, even with minimal workout.

Have tomorrow off and will definitely be doing a workout during the day, then hockey tomorrow. If I can control my intake a little bit better I'm hopeful to be in the 230's by the weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2020, 10:11:24 PM
Personally, the numbers on the scale seem to have mostly stalled for me - I keep hovering at 180lbs-ish, and 14.2% BF.  None-the-less, my fitness tracking says I'm making very good gains with my lifts, and what I see in the mirror is reinforcement enough.  I just personally want to get down to 10% BF before turning 50.

Gonna finish this "max size" routine, then try some manner of a cut.  Been contemplating a couple of months on Keto - I recall H had good success, as well as Gregg (full-time still?).  My only worry is not tracking my nutrition strictly enough to ensure I'm getting the right amount of fat, and just porking up cuz I'm only getting like 50% of my cals from fat, thus not getting into ketosis.

We'll see.  Still got 6 weeks left on this program, which should put me right around xmas time... at which point I think I'll just do some low intensity cardio and some minimal lifting, then get back at things in earnest in January.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on November 09, 2020, 10:16:09 PM
Keto - I did have good success, but I would say my performance suffered after about 2 months. I'm not sure it's the best thing in hindsight. I lost for sure. But too much, I would say.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 11:32:31 PM
Keto - I did have good success, but I would say my performance suffered after about 2 months. I'm not sure it's the best thing in hindsight. I lost for sure. But too much, I would say.

Yeah, even though I enjoyed the style of eating, I don't think I could do this long term.  I was eating carbs on the weekend too.  If I didn't I would struggle big time.  My performance in the gym and with running stalls very quickly once I'm in a solid defeceit or low carb so I just take a full intuative approach now with diet.  I'm sick of thinking too much about what I'm eating. 

I also think while you can lose a lot of keto and as H2 says you can lose probalby too much, and it can come off very quickly while you're still training hard.  I feel this is a bad thing long term.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Podaar on November 10, 2020, 04:53:20 AM
Gonna finish this "max size" routine, then try some manner of a cut.  Been contemplating a couple of months on Keto - I recall H had good success, as well as Gregg (full-time still?).  My only worry is not tracking my nutrition strictly enough to ensure I'm getting the right amount of fat, and just porking up cuz I'm only getting like 50% of my cals from fat, thus not getting into ketosis.

We'll see.  Still got 6 weeks left on this program, which should put me right around xmas time... at which point I think I'll just do some low intensity cardio and some minimal lifting, then get back at things in earnest in January.

I'm still eating super low carbs, full time, but I don't believe I've been in ketosis for months. Like you said, that takes some serious tracking. You need to maintain that 75 20 5 ratio of calories from fat, proteins, and carbs. It's not difficult, but it must be consistent for weight loss to occur. I'm eating more proteins in the form of lean meats and a lot of low carb veggies, these days. I might snack on nuts, or peanut butter, but not in the keto friendly way I was.

I'm sorry, but there is no evidence of a low carb/keto diet being dangerous. It may not be appealing to y'all but so far the science is clear. For Thor's sake, the Inuit tribes of North America lived their entire lives in a state of ketosis--until the white man introduced high carb food to them. The process is a natural function of our evolved physiology.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 05:02:37 AM
I have no issue with that at all Gregg and like consistent low carb eating myself.  However, I just don't know how it's possible to sustain while training at high intensity levels daily.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Podaar on November 10, 2020, 05:09:44 AM
It's usually best practice to ignore me, Kade. Especially before I've finished coffee. Just ask Mrs. P.

EDIT: BTW, with Halloween around, Mrs. P bought some snack sized candy bars to give out to the little kids. I tried one of the KitKat bars (which used to be a personal favorite) and, oooo boy, was it ever... not good.  :lol  I'm to the point that any time I try something heavily laden with processed sugar it nearly gags me.

Fun times.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 05:14:35 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on November 10, 2020, 09:53:07 AM
Over the past few weekends I've been taking dance lessons with a dancer friend. So, I'm learning to dance now. Part of this was trying to find a new way to get exercise and sweat while learning something new, since I'm not wearing a mask at the freaking gym, so I won't be lifting through the winter - gotta keep the body moving.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 01:44:49 PM
Dirty dancing?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on November 10, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
Dirty dancing?

 :lol Club dancing. Trying to loosen up, get my whole body moving, and sweat like mad.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 03:04:44 PM
I have no idea what club dancing would entail.  I don't think that would be my thing.  :lol 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2020, 03:59:22 PM
I'm still eating super low carbs, full time, but I don't believe I've been in ketosis for months. Like you said, that takes some serious tracking. You need to maintain that 75 20 5 ratio of calories from fat, proteins, and carbs. It's not difficult, but it must be consistent for weight loss to occur. I'm eating more proteins in the form of lean meats and a lot of low carb veggies, these days. I might snack on nuts, or peanut butter, but not in the keto friendly way I was.

I'm sorry, but there is no evidence of a low carb/keto diet being dangerous. It may not be appealing to y'all but so far the science is clear. For Thor's sake, the Inuit tribes of North America lived their entire lives in a state of ketosis--until the white man introduced high carb food to them. The process is a natural function of our evolved physiology.

This bolded part is what worries me.  I'm sure I could do/track it in bursts... but to be 100% disciplined and consistent for 6-8 weeks... not so sure.

My intuitive way of eating is just fine for maintenance... I'm just having problems shedding the fat I want, to get closer to 10% BF.  I've been tracking my total calorie burn from exercise, and it's pretty solidly in the 4500-5500 range weekly, and my daily cal intake is usually in the 2000-2200/day range.  The math of my BMR is about 1800/day.  So, with a daily surplus of (min-max) 200-400/day, burning 5000-ish cals should be giving me more movement.  I know the math is an important factor, but the body is a little more complicated than simple addition and subtraction.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Podaar on November 10, 2020, 04:02:03 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on November 10, 2020, 04:42:16 PM
 :rollin

Not entirely sure what club dancing is myself, but I often will put on some metal concert in the basement and just rock out and get a good sweat going.  It's definitely a way to get some sort of work out in while having fun.  As weird as it sounds.... I watch the Babymetal concerts and try to emulate their dances.  That's actually really difficult and I'm usually out of breath by doing like 15% of the dance for one song.  https://youtu.be/dU38CYkpBvI?t=64 (https://youtu.be/dU38CYkpBvI?t=64) for example  :metal and yea, make fun of me all you want!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2020, 04:56:01 PM
:rollin

Not entirely sure what club dancing is myself, but I often will put on some metal concert in the basement and just rock out and get a good sweat going.  It's definitely a way to get some sort of work out in while having fun.  As weird as it sounds.... I watch the Babymetal concerts and try to emulate their dances.  That's actually really difficult and I'm usually out of breath by doing like 15% of the dance for one song.  https://youtu.be/dU38CYkpBvI?t=64 (https://youtu.be/dU38CYkpBvI?t=64) for example  :metal and yea, make fun of me all you want!  :biggrin:

(https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Nelsonfinal.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: cramx3 on November 10, 2020, 05:05:31 PM
 :hat
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 06:20:00 PM
:rollin

Not entirely sure what club dancing is myself, but I often will put on some metal concert in the basement and just rock out and get a good sweat going.  It's definitely a way to get some sort of work out in while having fun.  As weird as it sounds.... I watch the Babymetal concerts and try to emulate their dances.  That's actually really difficult and I'm usually out of breath by doing like 15% of the dance for one song.  https://youtu.be/dU38CYkpBvI?t=64 (https://youtu.be/dU38CYkpBvI?t=64) for example  :metal and yea, make fun of me all you want!  :biggrin:

I haven't checked out Babymetal yet and I ain't starting now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 10, 2020, 06:47:37 PM
Some of their shit is intense. It's actually worth a listen
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 06:49:02 PM
Some of their shit is intense. It's actually worth a listen

I thought they were a pure novely band.  maybe I'll youtube something later.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 10, 2020, 06:51:09 PM
Some of their shit is intense. It's actually worth a listen

I thought they were a pure novely band.  maybe I'll youtube something later.

Oh they're a novelty. But those skeleton (or whatever the fuck they are) guitar players have serious chops.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2020, 10:10:13 AM
Nick, good stuff and keep going. I saw a couple of your photos on FB and you already look better. :tup

So I didn't run for the past two weeks, the work was so stressful that I just dragged my feet back home and I would just screw around for a few hours and then I'd just go to sleep. Honestly by the time I got home I had absolutely no motivation to do anything.

However you guys, we had our first snow last night! Can't miss that. Went for a leisurely 6km run. I actually think two weeks of rest helped me a bit, I breezed through it and I feel like running more often again. The surroundings were pretty good too, man I love snow. I hope this winter has more snow than the last. Here's a pic from my shitty phone:

(https://i.imgur.com/l1AIzCg.jpg)

While I obviously won't be able to hit 10km at the end of November, I hope I'll do it before the year runs out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2020, 01:15:44 PM
I'm glad you like it.  On their own, I dislike running and snow - the combination sounds unbearable to me.   :lol

Still making progress in my program.  I took pictures of my gym setup a couple weeks back, and need to upload the before / after to a hosting site somewhere.  Will try to do that tomorrow maybe, since I'm taking the day off.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on November 19, 2020, 01:18:29 PM
I would run in the snow if I had shoes that wouldn't get ruined and soggy from snow. My running shoes are highly breathable so they would get wrecked fast. Waterproofing ain't enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2020, 01:32:21 PM
Great pic Ruslan.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2020, 02:01:23 PM
I've been trying to increase my pace with running.  Lots of treadmill tempo runs this week.  I think that's why I love the treadmill going back to the discussion a while ago.  When you are road running you obviously have challenges like inclines, but a treadmill, you set the speed and you have to physically adjust it to lower it.  Outside you can slow down, sometimes without probably knowing but a treadmill, it's that mindset to try and go a distance while maintaining or increasing speed.

I do find it for reason harder running distances in shorter times on a treadmill, just seems harder.  Last two days, did a 3km at 15 minutes and then last night a 4km in 20:47.  Clocking a 5 minute per km speed is so difficult personally.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
3km in 15 minutes sounds doable actually! Before the shit at work hit the fan (so like two weeks ago I guess?), I tried to run a 5k as fast as I could. I knew getting out of 25 minutes was impossible as my personal best was like 28:20, but I maintained quite a good pace for the first three km going 5:15 for the first, 5:10 for the second and 5:10 for the third.

Right around that point my body told me to fuck off and I slogged the fourth km at 6:05 :lol Last km was 5:00 though. Still ended up with 26:40 which is my new personal best but not even close enough to 25. Gotta train more for that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2020, 02:45:35 PM
3km in 15 minutes sounds doable actually! Before the shit at work hit the fan (so like two weeks ago I guess?), I tried to run a 5k as fast as I could. I knew getting out of 25 minutes was impossible as my personal best was like 28:20, but I maintained quite a good pace for the first three km going 5:15 for the first, 5:10 for the second and 5:10 for the third.

Right around that point my body told me to fuck off and I slogged the fourth km at 6:05 :lol Last km was 5:00 though. Still ended up with 26:40 which is my new personal best but not even close enough to 25. Gotta train more for that.

That's awesome mate, still a very very good time.  Getting 5km at a 5 minute pace per km is tough.  3km is hard enough let alone another 2km at that pace!  As I said, I think my fastest 4km is 19:20 or something.  I'm hoping these harder tempo runs will eventually push me to go longer at a faster pace.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2020, 03:19:43 AM
Outside run today and it's getting hot here.  Did a 5km PB, 24:30.  Equates to 4:54 average per km.  Damn that was brutal, but just pushing more and more to try and get better.  Stoked to clock a 5km under 5 minutes per km.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 22, 2020, 05:41:07 AM
(https://pics.awwmemes.com/impressive-most-impressive-58238968.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: ReaperKK on November 22, 2020, 06:21:52 AM
I'm glad you like it.  On their own, I dislike running and snow - the combination sounds unbearable to me.   :lol

Still making progress in my program.  I took pictures of my gym setup a couple weeks back, and need to upload the before / after to a hosting site somewhere.  Will try to do that tomorrow maybe, since I'm taking the day off.


I use imgur.com to upload pics, just keep the posts hidden and past the link here.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2020, 12:12:49 PM
Thanks Chad.  My legs aren't that impressed with me this morning however.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 26, 2020, 10:56:11 AM
I suppose this thread is about to become a crossover between Exercise/Fitness and SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! threads for the next few months.

(https://i.imgur.com/qJibD4O.jpg)

Can't wait for a Saturday morning run when it won't be dark, hoping for some good views.

Outside run today and it's getting hot here.  Did a 5km PB, 24:30.  Equates to 4:54 average per km.  Damn that was brutal, but just pushing more and more to try and get better.  Stoked to clock a 5km under 5 minutes per km.

Also stoked for you Kade, good job. One day I'll be there too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2020, 12:41:33 PM
Thanks Ruslan.  That picture is amazing!

Sorry mate, where exactly do you live again?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 26, 2020, 12:55:28 PM
Moscow, Russia, so luckily (or not if you don't like snow I guess) plenty of snow for us during winter.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2020, 01:15:19 PM
Moscow, Russia, so luckily (or not if you don't like snow I guess) plenty of snow for us during winter.

Ah, that's right.  It's stunning and beautiful.  Those types of images and landscapes are somewhere I'd definitely love to visit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 28, 2020, 03:00:03 AM
So most of the snow has melted since Thursday as it does sometimes. :lol Woke up feeling pretty good today, thought "screw it", I wanted to run 10k at the end of November so I should do it. Well, I did it, 58:39 so not quite the best pace but I managed to get under an hour which was my original goal. The morning was pretty grim but still a very enjoyable run.

(https://i.imgur.com/ocd8Jhe.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720001645882376294/782160821974597662/DSC_0269.JPG)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZeKdLMB.jpg)

I'm going to rest for a few days now. Probably will post next update at the end of the year which I plan to finish with another long run, we'll see how it goes. Next goal is to run 21 km at the end of April.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2020, 04:23:15 AM
Well done mate.  That's a massive accomplishment, that's a pretty good time too, well under 6 minutes a km.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2020, 04:49:34 AM
Well done mate.  That's a massive accomplishment, that's a pretty good time too, well under 6 minutes a km.

This right here.  You deserve a ton of kudos and accolades.  Reward yourself somehow.  You put out a goal, made a plan, worked hard, kept yourself accountable, and achieved it.  You're a legend.  And I'm not even being facetious or hyperbolic. 

Pat yourself on the back, and feel awesome all weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 28, 2020, 05:09:46 AM
Thank you guys, means a lot. I definitely feel great right now, elated I would say.

Bought a bottle of champagne and it's cooling in the fridge now, gonna celebrate it this evening.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 28, 2020, 02:05:51 PM
Love the photography too :heart
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2020, 03:08:50 PM
Ruslan has me pumped now for my Sunday run.  Let's see what I can do.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2020, 03:27:05 AM
Fucking 32 degrees out there today and did a run at around 9:30am.  Brutal.  Only managed an 8km run at 42 minutes.  5:15 average per km.  I'm pretty disappointed with that to be honest.  I've been working on pace so much my endurance is starting to suffer.  Damn it was hot out there though, not a bloody cloud in the sky.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on November 29, 2020, 03:35:37 AM
Yeah no shit. I saw this thread on reddit this morning and thought of you Kade:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/k31ttg/its_so_hot_in_australia_our_outdoor_lights_melted/

Must be excruciating.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2020, 03:43:07 AM
Yeah no shit. I saw this thread on reddit this morning and thought of you Kade:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/k31ttg/its_so_hot_in_australia_our_outdoor_lights_melted/

Must be excruciating.

Ha!  Yeah, we're currently going through our first 'heat wave' of the season.  The media over-dramatize it though.  It's hot but nothing unexpected.  Saying that, it is warm, and I'm more near the coast.  Those people inland, I don't know how they do it.  Not going to be a fun week coming up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2020, 06:31:20 AM
Ok... finally uploaded photos of the home gym (which triples as a storage room, and the furnace room)

Before - treadmill, bike, bench, 90lb Select-Tech dbs, individual dbs (5 thru 30), bands, exercise ball, a pullup bar, and a pulley system (which I used like 5 times before deciding get the cage), and a carpeted area for HIIT - which was a pain in the ass, because the carpet kept sliding and bunching up.  TV setup has an AppleTV and PS3 setup for watching Netflix, gaming or whatever, along with a stereo system for da tunes!  :metal

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50633234651_7599acf1cc_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50633235576_d91b24bb1c_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50632486958_44130b552f_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50633237591_bf9f96f005_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50633327727_a9523907f0_c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2020, 06:31:29 AM
And the after ... everything above, but a new cage (with pulley system and pullup handles), BB + 295lbs of plates, and foam tiles to replace the carpet.  I also slapped up drywall for a slightly more finished look, and a means to hang some posters.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50649804201_aa3af47f81_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50649804186_9f20f4d397_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50649804176_5d9c6b443a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50649054323_b81e11ec30_c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: ReaperKK on November 29, 2020, 06:35:10 AM
That's awesome Jingle, what dumbbell set is that?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
The loose dumbbells are just standard hex pairs.  The adjustable one is Bowflex Select-Tech 1090.  As the model number suggests, they go from 10lbs to 90lbs, in 5lb increments.

(https://www.bowflex.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-nautilus-master-catalog/default/dw3c148542/images/bowflex/selecttech/1090/product-cms/1090-dumbbell-stand-feature-pdp.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: ReaperKK on November 29, 2020, 06:46:12 AM
How do like them? I've been slowly starting to build out my garage gym.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2020, 09:09:00 AM
How do like them? I've been slowly starting to build out my garage gym.

Worth every penny. I’ve had ‘em for about 12 years. Maybe longer.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2020, 09:19:45 AM
Mind you, I bought them with the bench for $550, iirc. In this pandemic era, I’m pretty sure their a shit ton more expensive.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2020, 01:03:10 PM
Neat little setup mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 29, 2020, 01:16:31 PM
I have some bowflex adjustable dumbbells that go from 5-52.5 lbs. They're awesome, and can replace an entire weight tree. Now i just have to convince my wife to let me get rid of our dumbbell weight tree
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2020, 01:25:28 PM
I have some bowflex adjustable dumbbells that go from 5-52.5 lbs. They're awesome, and can replace an entire weight tree. Now i just have to convince my wife to let me get rid of our dumbbell weight tree

I'm so glad I invested in the 10-90s way back when.  52.5 isn't enough for lot of my lifts - bench press, shrugs, rows.  Heck, I'm even getting close to that limit for OHP.  My only two beefs with them are how bulky they are, and you can't drop them.  I accidentally put one down on an angle while doing a lying pullover, and cracked the end 'plate' off the bar.  Fortunately, that plate is only 2.5lbs, and I was able to slip it back into alignment, and Gorilla Glue it back in place.

Otherwise, no way I'd have the space or $$$ for a full set of DBs 10 thru 90.  I looked at Bowflex's website, and they're a grand/pair!!  Saw one on Amazon for $1,500 for ONE!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 29, 2020, 02:07:56 PM
I think mine can be increased to 90 if need be, but I'm not sure. Most of the heavy lifting i do is done with the Olympic weights anyway, so i find the 50lbs enough
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on December 02, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
Jesus, how do y'all run in cold weather? I went out Friday for some cardio in the cool afternoon just before sunset but even then it was getting pretty chilly. Got off work yesterday and almost went out for a couple miles but... good lord the cold was biting and it was already dark. I'm going to try to muster the will to go out again tonight - I keep telling myself every year this will finally be the one I do cardio in the cold - but it's already looking difficult  :lol Two layers of pants, two shirts and a hoodie + gloves and a hat should be enough, but still.... yikes
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2020, 12:01:21 PM
Man I don't know. Might be that I'm fairly used to cold weather (love it actually) and love snow. I skied since I was 5 (or earlier, but my granddad would just pull me after him so I didn't have to do any physical activity before I was 5) until I was like 16 when I pretty much stopped exercising at all. It is more difficult to run in cold weather though. I'm currently in a city where we have -15°C and it's pretty cold, dunno if I could do a long run in these conditions. Hopefully I would be able to try that as the winter goes on, I'm curious about that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on December 03, 2020, 12:08:22 PM
Man I don't know. Might be that I'm fairly used to cold weather (love it actually) and love snow. I skied since I was 5 (or earlier, but my granddad would just pull me after him so I didn't have to do any physical activity before I was 5) until I was like 16 when I pretty much stopped exercising at all. It is more difficult to run in cold weather though. I'm currently in a city where we have -15°C and it's pretty cold, dunno if I could do a long run in these conditions. Hopefully I would be able to try that as the winter goes on, I'm curious about that.

Holy crap that's 5ºF. That's insane. This was just like 32ºF/0ºC weather when I was bitching and moaning about the cold! And I prefer the cold too! Then again I'm not surprised the resident Russian has better cold tolerance  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2020, 12:18:35 PM
Yeah my last run was in -2°C in Moscow and it went alright, 6.5km in about 37 minutes, felt good. I'm on a business trip now in Kazan and it's -15°C. Didn't bring my running gear with me obviously, but it feels pretty cold. I wonder what it feels like to run in this weather. We'll see, maybe I'll get to do it early next year!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 03, 2020, 12:45:40 PM
Not gonna lie, -20C and below stings the lungs a bit. Like breathing glass if you're breathing hard. Otherwise, the cold isn't an issue so long as you dress for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on December 03, 2020, 12:52:47 PM
I think that's what worries me the most, breathing in such frigid air with such force and so often. I'm not sure what that does to the lungs, if anything, but when it feels that bad that has me concerned.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2020, 01:17:11 PM
Where I am, I can't even contemplate running in those sort of temperatures.  Wow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
Where I am, I can't even contemplate running in those sort of temperatures.  Wow.

Forgive the ignorance of seasons and the geography in Oz, but does it ever get close to 0C where you live, Kade?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 04:33:21 AM
Where I am, I can't even contemplate running in those sort of temperatures.  Wow.

Forgive the ignorance of seasons and the geography in Oz, but does it ever get close to 0C where you live, Kade?

No way mate.  During later stages of COVID when gyms were on hour bookings I was doing some early morning runs before work instead to fit my weights in and that was in the heart of our winter.  Now the lowest it was was maybe 6 or 7 degrees.  I was still running in shorts and a shirt.  It was a little tough to get going and the fingers get a little frosty but a few kms in and I was sweating like normal.  Couldn't imagine -20, that's next level.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 04, 2020, 05:10:43 AM
Where I am, I can't even contemplate running in those sort of temperatures.  Wow.

Forgive the ignorance of seasons and the geography in Oz, but does it ever get close to 0C where you live, Kade?

No way mate.  During later stages of COVID when gyms were on hour bookings I was doing some early morning runs before work instead to fit my weights in and that was in the heart of our winter.  Now the lowest it was was maybe 6 or 7 degrees.  I was still running in shorts and a shirt.  It was a little tough to get going and the fingers get a little frosty but a few kms in and I was sweating like normal.  Couldn't imagine -20, that's next level.

That's kinda what I thought.  Waking up just now, it's a bit milder than things should be for the 1st week of December - 6C at the moment.  Last week it was -1C in the morning.  That's about normal for central Canada this time of year.  Where Schecter is (and jj), that can get colder than a witches cunt, that's for sure.  Our are can see parts of the winter where it drops to -15C or colder, but not for sustained periods.  Though, 3-4 years ago, there was a stretch where it didn't get above 0C for something like 33 straight days.  That was a bitchin winter.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 04, 2020, 07:01:31 AM
In the winter 2017-2018 we set some stupid record with something like 230 consecutive days where the temperature dropped below freezing at some point. Our temp swing is crazy when you consider we can hit +40C in the summer and -40C in the winter. Also worth noting that I'm nowhere near a large body of water, so our cold is very dry. I'd take -25C in Edmonton over -10C in Toronto.

We're unseasonably warm right now, like Jingle out east. Hitting 3 or 4C some days. It's running my xc skiing, but it'll make for a nice long ride tomorrow. I've got a nice 50km route lined up
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 03:36:47 PM
Those temps I can't comprehend.  Never experienced anything near that.  I definitely do want to one day though.  I guess black metal is the closest thing I have.  :lol

2km swim at 6am this morning and 8:30am now and it's already hitting 30 degrees.  Our summer is starting off strong.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 04, 2020, 05:00:55 PM
Just make your first trip to Canada in late January/early February.  Me, jj, or Schecter will take care of ya.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
Where I am, I can't even contemplate running in those sort of temperatures.  Wow.

Forgive the ignorance of seasons and the geography in Oz, but does it ever get close to 0C where you live, Kade?

No way mate.  During later stages of COVID when gyms were on hour bookings I was doing some early morning runs before work instead to fit my weights in and that was in the heart of our winter.  Now the lowest it was was maybe 6 or 7 degrees.  I was still running in shorts and a shirt.  It was a little tough to get going and the fingers get a little frosty but a few kms in and I was sweating like normal.  Couldn't imagine -20, that's next level.

That's kinda what I thought.  Waking up just now, it's a bit milder than things should be for the 1st week of December - 6C at the moment.  Last week it was -1C in the morning.  That's about normal for central Canada this time of year.  Where Schecter is (and jj), that can get colder than a witches cunt, that's for sure.  Our are can see parts of the winter where it drops to -15C or colder, but not for sustained periods.  Though, 3-4 years ago, there was a stretch where it didn't get above 0C for something like 33 straight days.  That was a bitchin winter.

Witches cunt lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
Where I am, I can't even contemplate running in those sort of temperatures.  Wow.

Forgive the ignorance of seasons and the geography in Oz, but does it ever get close to 0C where you live, Kade?

No way mate.  During later stages of COVID when gyms were on hour bookings I was doing some early morning runs before work instead to fit my weights in and that was in the heart of our winter.  Now the lowest it was was maybe 6 or 7 degrees.  I was still running in shorts and a shirt.  It was a little tough to get going and the fingers get a little frosty but a few kms in and I was sweating like normal.  Couldn't imagine -20, that's next level.

That's kinda what I thought.  Waking up just now, it's a bit milder than things should be for the 1st week of December - 6C at the moment.  Last week it was -1C in the morning.  That's about normal for central Canada this time of year.  Where Schecter is (and jj), that can get colder than a witches cunt, that's for sure.  Our are can see parts of the winter where it drops to -15C or colder, but not for sustained periods.  Though, 3-4 years ago, there was a stretch where it didn't get above 0C for something like 33 straight days.  That was a bitchin winter.

Witches cunt lol

I must admit, that made me  :eek also.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: The Walrus on December 04, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
Got my first December run in tonight. Made it a half mile without stopping. Did half laps until I hit a mile. I'm fine with that considering my weight is on point and my clothes fit great. Good shit. Did my deck of cards, too. Now I'm choking down one beer and it's off to bed.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on December 05, 2020, 10:57:04 PM
Already back at 30lb weighted chins x 10. I was able to do like 45lb x 12 months ago. Then I stopped lifting to focus on cardio for 3 months, and had to start at 0lb x 8. One month later, I'm virtually back. Neurological adaptations are weird, guys.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2020, 03:16:50 AM
Already back at 30lb weighted chins x 10. I was able to do like 45lb x 12 months ago. Then I stopped lifting to focus on cardio for 3 months, and had to start at 0lb x 8. One month later, I'm virtually back. Neurological adaptations are weird, guys.

Impressive mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2020, 03:21:28 AM
Been doing speedwork on the treadmill the last couple of weeks and realised today I hadn't done a 10+K run since 8th of Feb.

On Friday I got up to 3km at 14:33, which I'm very happy with.  Decided to aim for 10K today but talking about weather, I went out at 8am and it was already at least 32 degrees.  10km in 55:10 (5:30/km pace).  Running in these temps is absolutely brutal.  Blazing sun and suffocating hot winds is not nice while running.  I was absolutely toasted, literally.  My feet and shoes were fucking burning afterwards.  The water I've consumed today was as much that was in the lake I was running around.  That time is a bit slower than what I was doing so the weather effects is immense.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2020, 04:51:34 AM
Already back at 30lb weighted chins x 10. I was able to do like 45lb x 12 months ago. Then I stopped lifting to focus on cardio for 3 months, and had to start at 0lb x 8. One month later, I'm virtually back. Neurological adaptations are weird, guys.

Impressive mate.

Yeah, that is pretty f'n impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on December 06, 2020, 11:14:52 AM
Already back at 30lb weighted chins x 10. I was able to do like 45lb x 12 months ago. Then I stopped lifting to focus on cardio for 3 months, and had to start at 0lb x 8. One month later, I'm virtually back. Neurological adaptations are weird, guys.

Impressive mate.

Yeah, that is pretty f'n impressive.
Ah, you guys. But I'm also pretty light @ 150lb so that makes things easier. Chins are my best "lift" I would say.

Anyway, turns out Insanity for four months on a tight cut was a bad idea for me. I effed up my knee, started getting neck cricks on the reg, lost a lot of strength, and developed a lot of anxiety about working out. Two months max, next time, and not on such a severe cut! But I feel very close to back to my original strength after about a month.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Nick on December 06, 2020, 12:35:44 PM
Have definitely slowed as of late, but am still making slow progress, down to 238lbs now, 32 lost overall. Finally pulled the trigger on the lat pulldown attachment for my cage, which should help give me a few more options on what I can do easily at home.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on December 10, 2020, 11:47:10 AM
-5°C today, can confirm it's still fine to run. Did a leisurely 6.7km in 38:40, so a bit below my usual pace of 5:40 per km (5:46) but I wasn't pushing myself at all and really enjoyed it. I went harder for the last km and it was 4:45, feels really good to finish strong. Gearing up for another 10k this Saturday and hoping for good weather.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on December 13, 2020, 12:27:59 AM
Wow, Evermind, that is incredibly cold. Hats off to your for having the fortitude to train in such cold weather!

BTW, do our resident lifters have any tips regarding improving in squats? My squat is just about as strong as my bench right now (about 145lb x 10). I am able to go a lot higher if I stop above parallel, but of course that's cheating. But hitting parallel and even going slightly below parallel makes the lift so much more difficult. None of my other lifts are lagging so significantly far behind the others.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2020, 03:49:07 AM
-5°C today, can confirm it's still fine to run. Did a leisurely 6.7km in 38:40, so a bit below my usual pace of 5:40 per km (5:46) but I wasn't pushing myself at all and really enjoyed it. I went harder for the last km and it was 4:45, feels really good to finish strong. Gearing up for another 10k this Saturday and hoping for good weather.

Insane running in that temp.  I'd love to do that.

Today for me, totally the opposite of last Sunday.  Howling wind and heavy rain, but I still got out there and ran, I fucking loved it.  Finished up soaking wet but was worth it.  Quite casual and the strong wind made it hard.  12km at 5:29 average per km pace.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2020, 03:58:43 AM
Wow, Evermind, that is incredibly cold. Hats off to your for having the fortitude to train in such cold weather!

BTW, do our resident lifters have any tips regarding improving in squats? My squat is just about as strong as my bench right now (about 145lb x 10). I am able to go a lot higher if I stop above parallel, but of course that's cheating. But hitting parallel and even going slightly below parallel makes the lift so much more difficult. None of my other lifts are lagging so significantly far behind the others.

I'm not going to offer anything mate, my squats suck!!!  Probably my worst exercise.  I always just resort to smith machine or box squats if I want to go a little heavy.  Straight barbell squats I'm just fucking terrible at.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2020, 05:19:48 AM
Wow, Evermind, that is incredibly cold. Hats off to your for having the fortitude to train in such cold weather!

BTW, do our resident lifters have any tips regarding improving in squats? My squat is just about as strong as my bench right now (about 145lb x 10). I am able to go a lot higher if I stop above parallel, but of course that's cheating. But hitting parallel and even going slightly below parallel makes the lift so much more difficult. None of my other lifts are lagging so significantly far behind the others.

I'm not going to offer anything mate, my squats suck!!!  Probably my worst exercise.  I always just resort to smith machine or box squats if I want to go a little heavy.  Straight barbell squats I'm just fucking terrible at.

The phase of my routine right now is doing a total body stack in a 2-day cycle, with all reps on Day 1 being a lighter weight, 5-second concentric lift; and Day 2 being a heavy weight / 5-second eccentric movement.  Yesterday was db bench press, dips, db ohp, and bb squats.  Going deep on the squats, then taking 5 seconds to go up (5 sets of 10)... killer.  Later today, it's the opposite - a little heavier, 4 sets of 6-7, and taking 5 seconds on the way down.

Spaghetti legs for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 06:27:18 PM
Been keeping pretty active over the holiday period while work is a little quieter.  Did a crazy 20km run XMas morning and felt great.  My left leg is playing up again but 20km at 5:51 per km pace.  I really enjoyed it.  Lots of swimming happening too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2020, 07:41:43 PM
Been keeping pretty active over the holiday period while work is a little quieter.  Did a crazy 20km run XMas morning and felt great.  My left leg is playing up again but 20km at 5:51 per km pace.  I really enjoyed it.  Lots of swimming happening too.

I just finished the Max Size program I was doing, and got a lot of good results on my lifts.  I just did a push/pull (pushups and pullups) sequence that I struggled thru a few months ago, and it was not overly challenging yesterday.  Been trying to do 2x/day exercise (just getting on the bike in the morning to burn some calories) this month to compensate for the increased junk and alcohol consumption this time of year.  It seems to be helping keep me at least 'level'.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 30, 2020, 07:46:16 PM
I've also been keeping busy these holidays. I'm off work until January, so I've been XC skiing almost daily.

I just swapped out my classic XC skis for some skate skis this week. Super fun, but definitely a tough workout. I punched out 17km today for my first 'skate', and i can already tell I'll be in a world of hurt tomorrow
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 08:08:22 PM
Been keeping pretty active over the holiday period while work is a little quieter.  Did a crazy 20km run XMas morning and felt great.  My left leg is playing up again but 20km at 5:51 per km pace.  I really enjoyed it.  Lots of swimming happening too.

I just finished the Max Size program I was doing, and got a lot of good results on my lifts.  I just did a push/pull (pushups and pullups) sequence that I struggled thru a few months ago, and it was not overly challenging yesterday.  Been trying to do 2x/day exercise (just getting on the bike in the morning to burn some calories) this month to compensate for the increased junk and alcohol consumption this time of year.  It seems to be helping keep me at least 'level'.

This has been my mindset over the last couple weeks too.  Lots of shit food but managed to still keep level, even lose a small bit of weight with the increased activity.  I find it funny how people blow out over the holidays and then can't  figure out why simply struggle to get back to where they were.  It's so simple it's not funny.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 08:09:02 PM
I've also been keeping busy these holidays. I'm off work until January, so I've been XC skiing almost daily.

I just swapped out my classic XC skis for some skate skis this week. Super fun, but definitely a tough workout. I punched out 17km today for my first 'skate', and i can already tell I'll be in a world of hurt tomorrow

That sounds like a lot for whatever 'skae skies' are.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Much shorter skies, right Schecter?  I saw something like this on Shark Tank a couple months back.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 30, 2020, 08:19:06 PM
Much shorter skies, right Schecter?  I saw something like this on Shark Tank a couple months back.

Yeah, they're probably about 15cm shorter than my classic XC. It's basically an ice skating motion but on skis. Full body, too, because i very much take full advantage of my upper body strength. If I'm going to be penalized for my weight, I'm sure as hell going to make the muscles do their share of the work
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 30, 2020, 08:26:09 PM
I've also been keeping busy these holidays. I'm off work until January, so I've been XC skiing almost daily.

I just swapped out my classic XC skis for some skate skis this week. Super fun, but definitely a tough workout. I punched out 17km today for my first 'skate', and i can already tell I'll be in a world of hurt tomorrow

That sounds like a lot for whatever 'skae skies' are.
It's comparable to running distances and pacing. Skate skis will take me at a clip of about 4:50/km, whereas classic is more around 6min/km for the same effort. Less impact on the body though, so the legs feel way better after 15km of xc in any discipline vs. 15k running. Today felt like the closest thing to running I've experienced since i had to quit running. T'was nice  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: TAC on December 30, 2020, 08:26:52 PM
My legs hurt just reading this thread.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 08:40:57 PM
I've also been keeping busy these holidays. I'm off work until January, so I've been XC skiing almost daily.

I just swapped out my classic XC skis for some skate skis this week. Super fun, but definitely a tough workout. I punched out 17km today for my first 'skate', and i can already tell I'll be in a world of hurt tomorrow

That sounds like a lot for whatever 'skae skies' are.
It's comparable to running distances and pacing. Skate skis will take me at a clip of about 4:50/km, whereas classic is more around 6min/km for the same effort. Less impact on the body though, so the legs feel way better after 15km of xc in any discipline vs. 15k running. Today felt like the closest thing to running I've experienced since i had to quit running. T'was nice  ;D

Why did you quit running mate?  Injury?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 08:41:40 PM
My legs hurt just reading this thread.

 :lol I'm surprised to even see you in here mate!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: TAC on December 30, 2020, 08:43:22 PM
If you blink you'll miss me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 09:08:03 PM
If you blink you'll miss me.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/37nHk9ifP7no2dynFB/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2020, 09:19:10 PM
Tim just randomly shows up in every DTF thread
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 30, 2020, 09:23:36 PM
Kade, i had to quit running due to injury. Osteoarthritis of the hips. And the plural is not a typo. I was told to cut out all high impact activities (bye bye ball hockey and racing) or face full go replacement surgery at 40
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 09:38:06 PM
Kade, i had to quit running due to injury. Osteoarthritis of the hips. And the plural is not a typo. I was told to cut out all high impact activities (bye bye ball hockey and racing) or face full go replacement surgery at 40

Dude, with what I'm feeling in my left hip and leg currently, this scares the shit out of me.  By 40 too, that's scary bro.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on December 31, 2020, 01:01:25 AM
Man, these 2,5 weeks with Covid didn't do any favours to my running. Just went for a 8 km run, first run after I got better (and am allowed to leave my home :lol ) and it was absolutely brutal. Hopefully I'll do better next year.

(https://i.imgur.com/AYubrWw.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 05:02:56 AM
The scenery you have over there mate is breathtaking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2020, 05:12:35 AM
Man, these 2,5 weeks with Covid didn't do any favours to my running. Just went for a 8 km run, first run after I got better (and am allowed to leave my home :lol ) and it was absolutely brutal. Hopefully I'll do better next year.

Damn bro... hopefully it's just because of being 'off' for those 2.5 weeks, and not anything that's going to be a lingering issue as a result of COVID.

Yesterday, I did a couple of 'sore-in-6' routines (bi's and tri's) that Jeff Cavalier/Athlean-X published on YouTube.  6-minute sequence on a single body part that he guarantees will leave you sore.  I've done them before - they're nice routines that are quick.  And his guarantee is accurate.

Gonna do shoulders and chest later today.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on December 31, 2020, 07:17:03 AM
Chad: not gonna lie, this has crossed my mind as well. I was so out of breath after 4 km, I finished the run on a sheer willpower. Really hope it's just rust after sitting on my ass for 17 days.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 31, 2020, 11:04:48 AM
Man, these 2,5 weeks with Covid didn't do any favours to my running. Just went for a 8 km run, first run after I got better (and am allowed to leave my home :lol ) and it was absolutely brutal. Hopefully I'll do better next year.

Dang man...that's a bummer. I think I must have gotten lucky then. While I've only ran once since I had my bout with Covid.....I've played (4) hockey games. My cardio seems to have recovered pretty well. The larger issue was my legs getting back under me. Now, when I run I'm not a fast paced runner. Road runs I'm around a 9:00-9:30 mile whereas my trail runs are more 10:15-10:30....so, it's not like it's a tough pace to keep cardio wise.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 31, 2020, 11:40:20 AM
I have three sons....two of which are 13 and 14 years old. They're relatively active but they're at the age where I was when I first started 'lifting' weights. And by that I mean just messing around in gym class with the weights. I wasn't really all that in to it. But, I want to get these guys going with some more physical exercise so we decided to get a small home gym for them for christmas. They have a younger brother, 10, as well that I might look in to what type of workouts are reasonable for someone his age to do. I'm largely a runner and I play hockey.....but I turn 45 next month and was thinking that I should start working out my body in other areas. So, I'll get this thing put together (it's in pieces in our basement right now) and look to develop a workout plan for me and the boys to get accustomed to.


This is what we bought. It was $500....very simple but I'm hoping effective. 


(https://i.imgur.com/2x24own.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: hunnus2000 on December 31, 2020, 11:42:28 AM
Man, these 2,5 weeks with Covid didn't do any favours to my running. Just went for a 8 km run, first run after I got better (and am allowed to leave my home :lol ) and it was absolutely brutal. Hopefully I'll do better next year.

Dang man...that's a bummer. I think I must have gotten lucky then. While I've only ran once since I had my bout with Covid.....I've played (4) hockey games. My cardio seems to have recovered pretty well. The larger issue was my legs getting back under me. Now, when I run I'm not a fast paced runner. Road runs I'm around a 9:00-9:30 mile whereas my trail runs are more 10:15-10:30....so, it's not like it's a tough pace to keep cardio wise.

I'm glad you guys are better but Evermind - keep a close eye on things and if you don't improve, you may want to go to the doctor and get a full checkup (if you haven't already done this.

Where exercise is concerned, let me introduce you to Shelly Dose. If you're not used to HIIT exercise then this will kick your ass! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_haW_2YHc


Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
Chad: not gonna lie, this has crossed my mind as well. I was so out of breath after 4 km, I finished the run on a sheer willpower. Really hope it's just rust after sitting on my ass for 17 days.

Hmm....17 days between runs is a decent rest mate.  Hopefully it was just a few cobwebs you were getting rid of.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2020, 01:18:14 PM
Man, these 2,5 weeks with Covid didn't do any favours to my running. Just went for a 8 km run, first run after I got better (and am allowed to leave my home :lol ) and it was absolutely brutal. Hopefully I'll do better next year.

Dang man...that's a bummer. I think I must have gotten lucky then. While I've only ran once since I had my bout with Covid.....I've played (4) hockey games. My cardio seems to have recovered pretty well. The larger issue was my legs getting back under me. Now, when I run I'm not a fast paced runner. Road runs I'm around a 9:00-9:30 mile whereas my trail runs are more 10:15-10:30....so, it's not like it's a tough pace to keep cardio wise.

I'm glad you guys are better but Evermind - keep a close eye on things and if you don't improve, you may want to go to the doctor and get a full checkup (if you haven't already done this.

Where exercise is concerned, let me introduce you to Shelly Dose. If you're not used to HIIT exercise then this will kick your ass! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_haW_2YHc

Copy / paste error - this was the Dogs of 2020 vid I posted in the Dog Thread.   :lol

@ Gary... Good on ya.  That looks like a pretty complete (yet basic/simple) starter system.  Should do the trick.  Do you have any free weights?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: hunnus2000 on December 31, 2020, 01:46:53 PM
Doh!  :facepalm:

Shelly Dose - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPGujn0-dA

She's a bad ass!

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 31, 2020, 02:48:34 PM
Chad. Only free weights I have are dumbbells of varying weights. But I thought like you mentioned, this is a pretty basic starter machine for the kiddos and it’s something I can use as well to kind of get back into it and working muscles I haven’t used in a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
Doh!  :facepalm:

Shelly Dose - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPGujn0-dA

She's a bad ass!

Never heard of Tabata.  Nice routine.  Not sure you could really call that 'interval' training though, I didn't see them resting much on that 20s/10s split.  I can do spurts of that, but not 32 minutes of it.  That's cray cray.

Chad. Only free weights I have are dumbbells of varying weights. But I thought like you mentioned, this is a pretty basic starter machine for the kiddos and it’s something I can use as well to kind of get back into it and working muscles I haven’t used in a bit.

Absolutely!  Just make sure you teach the proper form from the outset, and don't kill them too much at the start.  I'm not sure how much 10-14 year olds will appreciate DOMS!  :lol

Me on the other hand, looking forward to it... just did the Sore-in-6 for Legs, Chest, and Shoulders.  I ought to be tingling tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
Chad: not gonna lie, this has crossed my mind as well. I was so out of breath after 4 km, I finished the run on a sheer willpower. Really hope it's just rust after sitting on my ass for 17 days.

I wouldn't be too worried mate.  I just went for a run this morning.  It's been 3 days since I ran because I'm having problems with my leg/hip.  Now I did 5km at 5:18 per km average pace but I'm wiped.  Regardless of my leg I couldn't believe how gassed I was.  Just do what you can do.  I think 17 days is definitely a long time and some backwards steps would be expected I feel.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: hunnus2000 on December 31, 2020, 04:33:50 PM
Doh!  :facepalm:

Shelly Dose - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPGujn0-dA

She's a bad ass!

Never heard of Tabata.  Nice routine.  Not sure you could really call that 'interval' training though, I didn't see them resting much on that 20s/10s split.  I can do spurts of that, but not 32 minutes of it.  That's cray cray.


The point of Tabata is to do HIIT for so many seconds and then a lower intensity movement. The point is to not stop moving. Everybody's workout routine and goals are different. I need to lose a few pounds and these workouts are perfect for my needs. Just wanted to share.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 05:49:34 PM
Chad: not gonna lie, this has crossed my mind as well. I was so out of breath after 4 km, I finished the run on a sheer willpower. Really hope it's just rust after sitting on my ass for 17 days.

I wouldn't be too worried mate.  I just went for a run this morning.  It's been 3 days since I ran because I'm having problems with my leg/hip.  Now I did 5km at 5:18 per km average pace but I'm wiped.  Regardless of my leg I couldn't believe how gassed I was.  Just do what you can do.  I think 17 days is definitely a long time and some backwards steps would be expected I feel.

Followed this run up with a 3km swim.  Good start to the year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 01, 2021, 06:44:22 AM
Doh!  :facepalm:

Shelly Dose - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPGujn0-dA

She's a bad ass!

Never heard of Tabata.  Nice routine.  Not sure you could really call that 'interval' training though, I didn't see them resting much on that 20s/10s split.  I can do spurts of that, but not 32 minutes of it.  That's cray cray.


The point of Tabata is to do HIIT for so many seconds and then a lower intensity movement. The point is to not stop moving. Everybody's workout routine and goals are different. I need to lose a few pounds and these workouts are perfect for my needs. Just wanted to share.

Ditto.  Despite doing 2/day workouts 4-5 days a week this month, the scale still tells me I added 4lbs this month.  My 49-year old body like to hoard the calories from alcohol and sweets, that's for sure, because there is 0% chance I had a 450 daily calorie surplus with all the working out I did.  Oh well, time to start paying stricter attention to my nutrition.  I've got 11 months and 19 days to drop 5% body fat to reach my goal of 10% BF before my 50th.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: hunnus2000 on January 01, 2021, 08:31:13 AM
So to the point of processed foods and understanding what your buying at the store along with their effects on the body, check out these two Youtube channels:

Flavcity - Bobby Parrish - he focuses on the chemical ingredients listed on the packaging and tells you what's good and what's bad.

Thomas Delauer - his specialty is on the science of these chemicals and their effects on metabolism, inflammation, hormones and a host of other things.

Good stuff!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 01, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
So to the point of processed foods and understanding what your buying at the store along with their effects on the body, check out these two Youtube channels:

Flavcity - Bobby Parrish - he focuses on the chemical ingredients listed on the packaging and tells you what's good and what's bad.

Thomas Delauer - his specialty is on the science of these chemicals and their effects on metabolism, inflammation, hormones and a host of other things.

Good stuff!

Noted!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2021, 09:48:28 PM
5km run yesterday at a flat 5:00 average per km.  I don't know how marathon runners and ultra marathon runners do it, my legs are fucked and I haven't been doing all that much in terms of distances.  Things get so tight I get up with a noticeable limp until I stretch out. 

I had a thought lately of maybe spending the year training and doing an ironman or something like that, to test myself, but I just don't see how my body would get to that level.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2021, 05:58:14 AM
Started Insanity over the weekend.  Gotta get disciplined on my diet, and shed some of this BF that simply won't go away.  Gonna do fasted steady-state in the mornings on the bike 4-5 days a week, and Insanity + 15-20 minutes of bike or treadmill as my cooldown.  Perhaps throw in the occasional lifting routine to try and hold on to the gains I made over the last 6 months.

Running .... I just don't even bother.  Took the dog for a 90 minute walk yesterday with mrs.jingle, and had to wear my knee brace cuz it was feeling a little wonky.  Then my knees had a dull ache all day long.  Ain't no fucking way my joints could take the impact of running.  Can't even do it at home if I wanted, cuz their is ductwork is right above the treadmill, and it's just low enough that I bang my head against it while running.  Walking is ok, but not running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 04, 2021, 08:21:42 AM
Good luck to you with Insanity Chad. I’ve done that all the way through three times and after the last time I swore ‘never again’. Although I did order ‘Insanity Max’ but haven’t done the whole cycle. I just do a couple of the workouts here and there. The original Insanity is just a kick in the nuts to your joints.

I played a ton of ice hockey this weekend. Played two hours Friday night then last night in our league I played in all three time slots, 7:45, 9:00 and 10:15. I always hang around after I’m done with my game to see if players are needed and last night it was light in each time slot so ended up playing three games.

Pretty sore this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2021, 08:49:51 AM
Good luck to you with Insanity Chad. I’ve done that all the way through three times and after the last time I swore ‘never again’. Although I did order ‘Insanity Max’ but haven’t done the whole cycle. I just do a couple of the workouts here and there. The original Insanity is just a kick in the nuts to your joints.


I don't think I ever finished a full 60 days in the past (I've had the program for many years - probably a year or two after it was first made).  Month 1 isn't so bad; month 2 is a bitch.  Over the last 6 months, I've done a bunch of the month 1 routines as an individual HIIT workout, and found them to be very achievable ("easy" certainly isn't the right word, but they didn't completely kick my ass).  I'm optimistic I'll be able to power my way thru February.

I've got really good flooring now (1" foam tiles throughout the room, plus yoga mats), so I'm not terribly worried about my joints (knock on wood).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 04, 2021, 08:52:48 AM
Good luck to you with Insanity Chad. I’ve done that all the way through three times and after the last time I swore ‘never again’. Although I did order ‘Insanity Max’ but haven’t done the whole cycle. I just do a couple of the workouts here and there. The original Insanity is just a kick in the nuts to your joints.


I don't think I ever finished a full 60 days in the past (I've had the program for many years - probably a year or two after it was first made).  Month 1 isn't so bad; month 2 is a bitch.  Over the last 6 months, I've done a bunch of the month 1 routines as an individual HIIT workout, and found them to be very achievable ("easy" certainly isn't the right word, but they didn't completely kick my ass).  I'm optimistic I'll be able to power my way thru February.

I've got really good flooring now (1" foam tiles throughout the room, plus yoga mats), so I'm not terribly worried about my joints (knock on wood).

I'm tinkering with the notion to do the full Insanity Max program. The idea behind it is that it's only 30 minutes....but you're supposed to go full bore the whole time and see how long it takes you in each routine to 'max out' and have to take a break....with the goal of improving your max out time as you progress.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: hunnus2000 on January 04, 2021, 09:33:03 AM
Any Billy Blanks fans here?? I still have a few of his DVDs but lost one of the bands. I think his workouts rock and are a nice change-up!  :metal

I found these bands and they look like they may be a good replacement so I ordered them yesterday.

https://www.sportsridge.com/products/resistance-bands-home-workout-fitness-exercise-pull-up-workout-tubes-for-billy-s-bootcamp
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2021, 11:35:41 AM
Damn!  $35 for one band!   :omg:  You could get a whole set for less.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: hunnus2000 on January 04, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
Damn!  $35 for one band!   :omg:  You could get a whole set for less.

No - qty 2......
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2021, 05:30:31 AM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: tofee35 on January 23, 2021, 05:54:43 AM
Hi all. This is my first post in this thread (after posting in the fast food thread). I've been yo yo-ing between 274 and 244 for the last few years trying different diets and work outs. The gaol weight is 175 over the course of a year. I'm down to 239 now from 274 in October. I am going steadily along. I'm eating +\-1800 calories and burning 200-400 a day in exercise. If I find myself not losing weight, I eat less caloric food and if I'm losing more than 1% of my body weight in a week, I eat a bit more. It's been working well and I'm liking the food I eat, which are only slight modifications. The exercise has just been elliptical and walking 10-15 flights of stairs at work. My overall goal is to be happy with the food I eat and healthy to live into my eighties. At 5'-9", 273lbs wasn't going to get me there.

-Tof
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2021, 07:03:35 AM
Hi all. This is my first post in this thread (after posting in the fast food thread). I've been yo yo-ing between 274 and 244 for the last few years trying different diets and work outs. The gaol weight is 175 over the course of a year. I'm down to 239 now from 274 in October. I am going steadily along. I'm eating +\-1800 calories and burning 200-400 a day in exercise. If I find myself not losing weight, I eat less caloric food and if I'm losing more than 1% of my body weight in a week, I eat a bit more. It's been working well and I'm liking the food I eat, which are only slight modifications. The exercise has just been elliptical and walking 10-15 flights of stairs at work. My overall goal is to be happy with the food I eat and healthy to live into my eighties. At 5'-9", 273lbs wasn't going to get me there.

-Tof

Awesome!  Welcome to the Light Side.   ;)

Water.  Drink lots of it.  Keeps the metabolism up.  When I lost my big chunk of weight back in 2005 (I was doing a very similar thing to you... keep cals at a deficit, and 5 days / wk of low-intensity cardio), I could tell the weeks I didn't drink enough water by my (lack of) progress on the scale.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 02:49:37 PM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.

Well done on the loss mate but 66 percent being muscle?  That doesn't sound right to me.  It would be hard to trust scales with a result like that one would think.  Just seems like a lot of muscle in less than a month.  I'd assume you're still eating well and enough?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 02:51:59 PM
Hi all. This is my first post in this thread (after posting in the fast food thread). I've been yo yo-ing between 274 and 244 for the last few years trying different diets and work outs. The gaol weight is 175 over the course of a year. I'm down to 239 now from 274 in October. I am going steadily along. I'm eating +\-1800 calories and burning 200-400 a day in exercise. If I find myself not losing weight, I eat less caloric food and if I'm losing more than 1% of my body weight in a week, I eat a bit more. It's been working well and I'm liking the food I eat, which are only slight modifications. The exercise has just been elliptical and walking 10-15 flights of stairs at work. My overall goal is to be happy with the food I eat and healthy to live into my eighties. At 5'-9", 273lbs wasn't going to get me there.

-Tof

Awesome mate.  Seems like you have a decent grasp on what you're doing and making great progress.  Keep it up.  If you ever need any advice just ask.  We're not experts but collectively have a knowledge base in here.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 02:54:40 PM
Hi all. This is my first post in this thread (after posting in the fast food thread). I've been yo yo-ing between 274 and 244 for the last few years trying different diets and work outs. The gaol weight is 175 over the course of a year. I'm down to 239 now from 274 in October. I am going steadily along. I'm eating +\-1800 calories and burning 200-400 a day in exercise. If I find myself not losing weight, I eat less caloric food and if I'm losing more than 1% of my body weight in a week, I eat a bit more. It's been working well and I'm liking the food I eat, which are only slight modifications. The exercise has just been elliptical and walking 10-15 flights of stairs at work. My overall goal is to be happy with the food I eat and healthy to live into my eighties. At 5'-9", 273lbs wasn't going to get me there.

-Tof

Awesome!  Welcome to the Light Side.   ;)

Water.  Drink lots of it.  Keeps the metabolism up.  When I lost my big chunk of weight back in 2005 (I was doing a very similar thing to you... keep cals at a deficit, and 5 days / wk of low-intensity cardio), I could tell the weeks I didn't drink enough water by my (lack of) progress on the scale.

I always toss and turn with this.  I drink litres a water a day so I'm a big advocate of drinking lots, but I've always been skeptical about the amount consumed affecting weight loss.  I'm sure there's science behind it but I struggle to grasp how the amount of water interplays with caloric defeceit and weight loss.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2021, 02:55:22 PM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.

Well done on the loss mate but 66 percent being muscle?  That doesn't sound right to me.  It would be hard to trust scales with a result like that one would think.  Just seems like a lot of muscle in less than a month.  I'd assume you're still eating well and enough?

I agree.  I usually just look to the scales for trends and changes when it comes to BF%, as opposed to absolute accuracy.  On the eating, I've been about 80%-90% clean.  A couple of rewards here and there (couple of beers, a few chocolates still lingering from Christmas), but nothing outrageous at all.  That said, losing 2.5lbs of lean mass in three weeks just by doing HIIT (when some of the HIIT moves are anaerobic (ie, pushups, lots of squats and jumps, dips) makes no sense.  I don't buy it at all.

And with that, it's pizza night!   :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2021, 02:56:35 PM
Hi all. This is my first post in this thread (after posting in the fast food thread). I've been yo yo-ing between 274 and 244 for the last few years trying different diets and work outs. The gaol weight is 175 over the course of a year. I'm down to 239 now from 274 in October. I am going steadily along. I'm eating +\-1800 calories and burning 200-400 a day in exercise. If I find myself not losing weight, I eat less caloric food and if I'm losing more than 1% of my body weight in a week, I eat a bit more. It's been working well and I'm liking the food I eat, which are only slight modifications. The exercise has just been elliptical and walking 10-15 flights of stairs at work. My overall goal is to be happy with the food I eat and healthy to live into my eighties. At 5'-9", 273lbs wasn't going to get me there.

-Tof

Awesome!  Welcome to the Light Side.   ;)

Water.  Drink lots of it.  Keeps the metabolism up.  When I lost my big chunk of weight back in 2005 (I was doing a very similar thing to you... keep cals at a deficit, and 5 days / wk of low-intensity cardio), I could tell the weeks I didn't drink enough water by my (lack of) progress on the scale.

I always toss and turn with this.  I drink litres a water a day so I'm a big advocate of drinking lots, but I've always been skeptical about the amount consumed affecting weight loss.  I'm sure there's science behind it but I struggle to grasp how the amount of water interplays with caloric defeceit and weight loss.

Yeah... I know we've debated the point before.  I'm a believer, you're a bit of skeptic.  Whether it does have a big impact or not, we both agree it's still a good practice
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 04:17:04 PM
Hi all. This is my first post in this thread (after posting in the fast food thread). I've been yo yo-ing between 274 and 244 for the last few years trying different diets and work outs. The gaol weight is 175 over the course of a year. I'm down to 239 now from 274 in October. I am going steadily along. I'm eating +\-1800 calories and burning 200-400 a day in exercise. If I find myself not losing weight, I eat less caloric food and if I'm losing more than 1% of my body weight in a week, I eat a bit more. It's been working well and I'm liking the food I eat, which are only slight modifications. The exercise has just been elliptical and walking 10-15 flights of stairs at work. My overall goal is to be happy with the food I eat and healthy to live into my eighties. At 5'-9", 273lbs wasn't going to get me there.

-Tof

Awesome!  Welcome to the Light Side.   ;)

Water.  Drink lots of it.  Keeps the metabolism up.  When I lost my big chunk of weight back in 2005 (I was doing a very similar thing to you... keep cals at a deficit, and 5 days / wk of low-intensity cardio), I could tell the weeks I didn't drink enough water by my (lack of) progress on the scale.

I always toss and turn with this.  I drink litres a water a day so I'm a big advocate of drinking lots, but I've always been skeptical about the amount consumed affecting weight loss.  I'm sure there's science behind it but I struggle to grasp how the amount of water interplays with caloric defeceit and weight loss.

Yeah... I know we've debated the point before.  I'm a believer, you're a bit of skeptic.  Whether it does have a big impact or not, we both agree it's still a good practice

Haha, yes I remember our argument now.  I think I was a bit too arrogant at that time.  Simply, it's better to drink more than not.  I think we both can agree on that.  Letting my guard down, I'm sure being hydrated enough may in turn have some effect.  It might be miniscule but the body needs to work efficiently do work so it would have more advantages than not.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 04:18:06 PM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.

Well done on the loss mate but 66 percent being muscle?  That doesn't sound right to me.  It would be hard to trust scales with a result like that one would think.  Just seems like a lot of muscle in less than a month.  I'd assume you're still eating well and enough?

I agree.  I usually just look to the scales for trends and changes when it comes to BF%, as opposed to absolute accuracy.  On the eating, I've been about 80%-90% clean.  A couple of rewards here and there (couple of beers, a few chocolates still lingering from Christmas), but nothing outrageous at all.  That said, losing 2.5lbs of lean mass in three weeks just by doing HIIT (when some of the HIIT moves are anaerobic (ie, pushups, lots of squats and jumps, dips) makes no sense.  I don't buy it at all.

And with that, it's pizza night!   :rollin

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much at this point mate.  As long as you feel as strong with your lifts I'd ride it out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2021, 05:22:13 PM
So, at work we've organised to join this fundraiser as part of a swim challenge between ourselves.  More for our own benefit and a team building exercise but donating some money to a good cause always is a good thing.

https://superswim.org.au/t/aqualogan (I'm not posting the link for money, please don't think that, just sharing with you all incase anyone is interested.)

Anyway, set myself 60km over 30 days.  A lot of us went in early and did a swim together which was great and knocked out 5km, so a good start.  Would like to smash 60km but it will no doubt get tougher as the month goes on.

Anyway, the real challenge I've given myself is also my diet.  My sugar intake has been going up and up and I consume more on a daily basis.  My activity levels mean my weight doesn't increase but it's getting a little out of control.  For the 30 days I'm cutting as much sugar as I can.  I want to keep improving my body composition and while I do believe a calorie is a calorie, it's the perfect opportunity to cut the sugar and regulate my eating a little more and see if it can make a difference while doing the swimming challenge.  Whole foods will be the primary basis so it's pretty simple.  I will add protein powders too.  Saturday night may be a low calorie ice cream or something but will be minimal.  I want to try and limit artificial sweeteners too but as I said, will allow powders.  No snacks or protein bars, just meats, veg, nuts, oats, natural peanut butter, protein powder some beans and that's really about it.   

The swimming if fucking going to be easy, the diet is where the true challenge lies.  Wish me luck.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on January 25, 2021, 08:35:06 PM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.
I know that every time I've done Insanity (which is about 5 total times through the whole program), I lose so much strength and muscle. Perhaps eat more and don't aim to lose? Insanity burns so much anyway that you'll probably lose without even tracking cals.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2021, 07:09:00 AM
3 more days, and it's the "recovery" week... which I'm going to do some lifting.  After one week of phase 2, I'll decide if I want to do the full 4 weeks of it, or go back to lifting (which I enjoy more anyway).  I just wanted to shed some BF, and if I ain't doing that with Insanity, no need to keep at it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2021, 02:00:40 PM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.
I know that every time I've done Insanity (which is about 5 total times through the whole program), I lose so much strength and muscle. Perhaps eat more and don't aim to lose? Insanity burns so much anyway that you'll probably lose without even tracking cals.

I always thought that losing strength was the best indicator as to if you were losing muscle or not.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: H2 on January 26, 2021, 03:00:09 PM
finished week 3 of Insanity, and I'm down almost 7lbs.  Unfortunately, according to my scale, 2/3 of it is lean mass.  :-\  If it keeps up like this, I may have to reconsider doing the full 60-days.  Took me 13 weeks to add 2lbs of lean mass on the last program, and 3 weeks to lose 2.5lbs - though I know these scales aren't completely accurate and can be inconsistent ... so I'll just have to see how my weigh-ins are over the next 2 weeks.
I know that every time I've done Insanity (which is about 5 total times through the whole program), I lose so much strength and muscle. Perhaps eat more and don't aim to lose? Insanity burns so much anyway that you'll probably lose without even tracking cals.

I always thought that losing strength was the best indicator as to if you were losing muscle or not.
Yeah. It's not a perfect indicator though. Just going on a cut will hurt your strength in a few days' time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2021, 03:10:55 PM
One day down with nothing sugary.  So far so good.  Feel alright.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2021, 03:31:18 PM
The swimming if fucking going to be easy, the diet is where the true challenge lies.  Wish me luck.

Word brother.  I've got no problem pounding out my routine on a consistent basis (currently, fasted bike ride for 45 mins in the morning; 35-40 mins HIIT 5 days a week + 20 minute bike or treadmill in the evening).  I'm almost 4 weeks in, and only skipped one session.  Diet on the other hand ... well yeah... it's sometimes as if I'm working out that much just so I can give myself those rewards.  I gotta get a little more disciplined.  The leftover Christmas treats are starting to disappear, so it'll get easier.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2021, 07:13:53 PM
The swimming if fucking going to be easy, the diet is where the true challenge lies.  Wish me luck.

Word brother.  I've got no problem pounding out my routine on a consistent basis (currently, fasted bike ride for 45 mins in the morning; 35-40 mins HIIT 5 days a week + 20 minute bike or treadmill in the evening).  I'm almost 4 weeks in, and only skipped one session.  Diet on the other hand ... well yeah... it's sometimes as if I'm working out that much just so I can give myself those rewards. I gotta get a little more disciplined.  The leftover Christmas treats are starting to disappear, so it'll get easier.

Mate, you summed up my whole way of thinking and the main reason why I've tied this diet challenge in with the swimming work thing.  I'd train harder just to eat more shit, and that's been creeping into my subconsciouss daily.  I need to reset my thinking and train to improve and the want to improve my pyshique, not so I can eat shit and get away with it.  Easier said then done.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 27, 2021, 08:32:00 AM
Turned 45 yesterday and have been trying the last two weeks to get back into my running routine. When our family was hit with covid in the beginning of December.....it was a couple weeks of really not doing a lot of exercise. Just felt real run down and that little virus just takes it out of you. So, after we were cleared I was just playing hockey once a week on Sunday nights.....usually two games.

Then two weeks ago started ramping the running back up....and it's just strange not having the stamina I had only a month and a half ago. I can 'feel' the difference in my lung capacity when I run and play hockey....it's nothing alarming but I can tell things are different. Plus, I've gained about 15lbs that I 'normally' don't have on my body so that's affecting things as well.

I bought my boys a weight machine (similar to a bow flex) that's an all in one workout machine. Finally got it put together over the weekend so now I'm going to set up a workout schedule for them and me to utilize it. It maxes out at 140lbs of potential weight to move so it's not a massive thing....but it'll be good enough for multiple sets of 10...15 reps. It has the capability for us to do several arm and leg workouts so it'll do the trick for now.

I've registered for the annual Half Marathon trail run I've done every year since 2011 to give me motivation to stay running....that's on March 27th. Plus, there's a 10k trail run in February I'm waiting for registration to open on.

And.....the elephant in the room is diet. I have become pretty lax about watching what I eat.....meaning I've been eating bad foods AND at bad times of the night. Gotta nip that crap in the bud now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 08:57:06 AM
Ok boys... time to hold ourselves accountable. Post your eatings - including "cheats" or "rewards", and let the others judge you - either as forgivable, or shame-worthy.  :lol

So far today, I've had a Costco egg sammich, and a home-made parfait of greek yogurt (probably 3/4 of a cup), 1/2 cup of frozen blueberries, and a splash of granola cereal.  Planning on a home-made calzone for lunch (baked, not fried).  The menu for dinner is Chicken Korma.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: Evermind on January 27, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
Kade and Chad, same here. I started rewarding myself more as I began running longer distances so I stopped losing but also didn't gain weight, and then Covid + Christmas / New Year holidays and it got way colder, like -20°C. In between Dec 15th and Jan 22nd I only ran once before the New Year, but I didn't do diet at all, ended up gaining around 13-15 lbs. Not as fat as before, but definitely still uncomfortable.

Now I'm facing Gary's problem :) Only just now getting back into the whole diet and running routine. Saturday 5k run (first this year) was difficult as hell and I couldn't even get out of 30 minutes. Today's 5k was also difficult as hell, I was out of breath after 3km but persevered and at least I finished at 29:05.

Eating-wise, also cutting all sugar again (I ate quite a lot of it during Covid as I didn't lose my sense of taste and had nothing better to do, you know), now it's no breakfast, a routine salad (cucumber, tomato, a bell pepper, a bit of olive oil, salt and pepper) with either turkey or chicken at work, sometimes with broccoli, green beans or rice (carbs, but I like rice too much), cold cuts of low-calories cheese/some meat at home after work. Sometimes a beer, usually after a run (like today). Loads of water at work as I'm with Chad on the whole water thing, always feel much better because of it. Weekends will probably include some cheats though, it's weekends.

I do plan to adhere to the whole thing again though, I liked being thinner way too much.

Hopefully your plans will work out for you, keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 11:00:46 AM
Ok boys... time to hold ourselves accountable. Post your eatings - including "cheats" or "rewards", and let the others judge you - either as forgivable, or shame-worthy.  :lol

So far today, I've had a Costco egg sammich, and a home-made parfait of greek yogurt (probably 3/4 of a cup), 1/2 cup of frozen blueberries, and a splash of granola cereal.  Planning on a home-made calzone for lunch (baked, not fried).  The menu for dinner is Chicken Korma.

Well, I took up intermittent fasting back in August so I've only had water and black coffee so far today lol. Here's what I've already pre-logged for the day though:

"breakfast" (eaten anywhere from 1pm-4pm): Salad eggs (not to be confused with egg salad, which is fucking disgusting). Contains spinach, red and green peppers, onion, 2 slices of bacon chopped up, 2 full eggs and 3 egg whites, 1 piece of toast

Dinner: 9oz grilled chicken breast (done on the BBQ...despite the -20C temp) with oven roasted cauliflower and Brussells sprouts as a side

Snacks: 1 scoop protein powder with 1.5c milk, 2 cups steamed veg (broc, carrot, caul), likely a large portion of frozen yogurt as a night snack. Almonds if I'm still hungry somewhere in there.

I use olive oil in my cooking, so there's generally a good tbsp used throughout my day.

For me the diet part is pretty manageable, but I tend to over snack some days. I went to town on peanut butter and my kids' cookies Sunday. Ended up eating a day and half worth of calories that day. The change in my body is noticeable if I can stay consistent for a stretch of 1 or more weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 11:15:47 AM
I love me an egg scramble - load whatever veggies and meat is handy, 2 eggs, and 1/2 carton of the Costco egg whites (I gave up on real egg whites a long time ago... these are close enough, cheaper and way more convenient).

My calzone was a piece of naan, dozen or so slices of turkey pepperoni, two big slices of deli ham, two slices of provolone, and some leftover sloppy joe mix.

Snack wise, I'm an almond guy too had a handful around 11:30, as I knew I wasn't getting to lunch until now.  Greek yogurt, cottage cheese + salsa, and kolbasa are my other go-to snacks.

Oh, the other thing about water (that I remember reading a long time ago), is that people sometimes confuse the body's signal of thirst with hunger.  So, whenever I'm hungry (but shouldn't be, or want to try and hold off until the next mealtime), I pound back some water.  Doesn't always satiate me, but it does about 50% of the time.

@Schecter... do you drink cows milk with your protein shakes?  I switched to almond milk a while back, cuz when I'm lifting, I'll have a whey shake in the day, and a casein one at bedtime, and I didn't want to have those (needless) calories from 3ish cups of milk/day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 11:17:21 AM
Also, here's the graph of my weight over the last 4 years. It' interesting to see the spikes where I made deliberate changes to my diet or exercise. If I look at the data over a shorter period, like say 3 months, you can actually see the weight increase virtually every weekend. I typically try to view it as a 'best fit' line to determine the actual trend in my weight so I don't get discouraged. Part of tracking my weight daily means dealing with the wild swings from changes in my sodium or carb intake. Example: sunday morning - 193lbs, monday morning - 196.5 lbs, tuesday - 193lbs, today 191.8. Daily weight logging is definitely not for the faint of heart lol.


(https://i.imgur.com/jMJCYw6.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 11:20:19 AM
I love me an egg scramble - load whatever veggies and meat is handy, 2 eggs, and 1/2 carton of the Costco egg whites (I gave up on real egg whites a long time ago... these are close enough, cheaper and way more convenient).

My calzone was a piece of naan, dozen or so slices of turkey pepperoni, two big slices of deli ham, two slices of provolone, and some leftover sloppy joe mix.

Snack wise, I'm an almond guy too had a handful around 11:30, as I knew I wasn't getting to lunch until now.  Greek yogurt, cottage cheese + salsa, and kolbasa are my other go-to snacks.

Oh, the other thing about water (that I remember reading a long time ago), is that people sometimes confuse the body's signal of thirst with hunger.  So, whenever I'm hungry (but shouldn't be, or want to try and hold off until the next mealtime), I pound back some water.  Doesn't always satiate me, but it does about 50% of the time.

@Schecter... do you drink cows milk with your protein shakes?  I switched to almond milk a while back, cuz when I'm lifting, I'll have a whey shake in the day, and a casein one at bedtime, and I didn't want to have those (needless) calories from 3ish cups of milk/day.

Yeah, just regular old 1% cow milk. It's what the rest of the house uses, so I just roll with it. I think if I were using it more than once per day I'd consider switching, but honestly the calories aren't a concern. With the IF, I'll be sitting around 1k calories eaten by 7 or 8pm. In fact, I find myself almost wanting to eat just for the sake of getting some calories in so I'm not starving all the next day until my eating window opens.

It's crazy that I went from 5-6 smaller meals or snacks to basically 1 massive meal, 1 reasonable sized meal, and a large snack.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on January 27, 2021, 11:21:20 AM
Two sleeves of Mega Stuf Oreos, ngl

Strength gains going way up in the gym. I love watching those numbers go up.

I realize I may have messed up my knee. I did Insanity for four months straight, and often after workouts, my left knee would be frickin killing me (esp. after sitting for a long stretch of time). Like, the front part of the knee, just lower than the knee bone. I think it's a cartilage issue. It was the many burpees and in-and-out abs that would trigger it.

Well, I quit Insanity because of that three months ago, so I've kept to more mild HIIT  once a week, and light jogging once a week. Still, my knee is achy and uncomfortable at times. So, I am going to just going to lay off it, I think. I think I'll switch my HIIT workout to swimming, and instead of jogging I'll just be walking. Sucks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 11:22:34 AM
Part of tracking my weight daily means dealing with the wild swings from changes in my sodium or carb intake. Example: sunday morning - 193lbs, monday morning - 196.5 lbs, tuesday - 193lbs, today 191.8. Daily weight logging is definitely not for the faint of heart lol.

No shit!  That would drive me nuts.  Weekly weigh-ins can be frustrating enough - like, when I don't have the need to .... "move" (if you catch my drift) ... before my weigh in.

Yeah, just regular old 1% cow milk. It's what the rest of the house uses, so I just roll with it. I think if I were using it more than once per day I'd consider switching, but honestly the calories aren't a concern. With the IF, I'll be sitting around 1k calories eaten by 7 or 8pm. In fact, I find myself almost wanting to eat just for the sake of getting some calories in so I'm not starving all the next day until my eating window opens.

Makes sense.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 11:23:09 AM
Damn H... If this is how you are at the end of your 20s, wait 'til you hit your 40s!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 11:24:14 AM
Part of tracking my weight daily means dealing with the wild swings from changes in my sodium or carb intake. Example: sunday morning - 193lbs, monday morning - 196.5 lbs, tuesday - 193lbs, today 191.8. Daily weight logging is definitely not for the faint of heart lol.

No shit!  That would drive me nuts.  Weekly weigh-ins can be frustrating enough - like, when I don't have the need to .... "move" (if you catch my drift) ... before my weigh in.



Oh, I know exactly what you mean. I've skipped my weigh in more than once because I wasn't happy with the morning's movement lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
Part of tracking my weight daily means dealing with the wild swings from changes in my sodium or carb intake. Example: sunday morning - 193lbs, monday morning - 196.5 lbs, tuesday - 193lbs, today 191.8. Daily weight logging is definitely not for the faint of heart lol.

No shit!  That would drive me nuts.  Weekly weigh-ins can be frustrating enough - like, when I don't have the need to .... "move" (if you catch my drift) ... before my weigh in.



Oh, I know exactly what you mean. I've skipped my weigh in more than once because I wasn't happy with the morning's movement lol.

:spitcoffee:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 01:22:15 PM
The big question for me is what am I going to do when I return to the office? Thankfully, my organization didn't fuck around with covid, so I've been working from home since mid-march and they don't expect us to return until at least September. However, I definitely won't be able to make bacon and eggs at the office, and, since I cycle to work most days, I think it'll be tougher to go fasted until the afternoon. I've done some big fasted workouts since taking up IF, but never during a work day where I need to be focused and sharp. It's only a 20-30 minute ride to work (unless I detour on the MTB trails), but then I'm hungry as fuck as soon as I start work. Right now at home, the coffee and water easily get me to lunch. I get hungry a bit around 10am, but it usually subsides pretty quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on January 27, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
What's the heaviest everyone has ever been, out of curiousity? (and how tall are you, too?)

I'm 5'7 and got up to 185lb a few years ago after a bulk. (Now I'm like 155lb.)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 02:38:22 PM
What's the heaviest everyone has ever been, out of curiousity? (and how tall are you, too?)

I'm 5'7 and got up to 185lb a few years ago after a bulk. (Now I'm like 155lb.)

I was 6'3" in my early 20s (I've probably compressed to about 6'1" nowadays).  In university, I got up to 240lbs probably.  When I met mrs.jingle, I was around 235.  We lost a bunch of weight together in '05/'06 - I got down as low as 183.  Maintained it (185-190) for quite a few years, then gradually put it back on from '12-'15 to the point I was 214 when I started this thread.  I'm at 178.6 as of my weigh in last Friday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 02:38:44 PM
I'm 5"9, maybe even a 1/4 inch under. Heaviest was Feb 2001, where I tipped (or broke) the scale at 285lbs. This was post-football season in my senior year as a high school O-lineman, and post christmas break. It started me on a path that saw me shed 100lbs in a little over 1 year.

Lowest weight: 172lbs in summer 2002. My absolute lowest when I was running 15km 6 days per week, and then roller blading 10km to the gym to lift weights. I hope to never be that light again.

So basically i've gone from 285 on the way up, to 172 on the way down, back up to a high of 248 in Christmas 2015, and back down to a low of 191.6 about a month ago or something. It's funny that I'm more shredded and have better cardio now at 190 then I did at 172. The cycling part of me still says I should go for as light as possible, but I'd rather have a good looking, muscular physique than be a little faster on the bike
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 02:43:06 PM
Great reading lads.  I'll chime in a few thoughts when I get to work.

But the heaviest I've been is 118kg (260lbs).  I'm 6"2.  Currently around 80kg. (175lbs.)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
Great reading lads.  I'll chime in a few thoughts when I get to work.

But the heaviest I've been is 118kg (260lbs).  I'm 6"2.  Currently around 80kg. (175lbs.)

It's like we mirror each other.  For some reason, I didn't think you were that tall.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:02:08 PM
Great reading lads.  I'll chime in a few thoughts when I get to work.

But the heaviest I've been is 118kg (260lbs).  I'm 6"2.  Currently around 80kg. (175lbs.)

It's like we mirror each other.  For some reason, I didn't think you were that tall.

yeah, haha I thought that too reading your post.  Yeah, 187cm, that might be 6"1 and a half maybe but close enough.  Dunno if that's a good thing or not that you didn't think I was that tall haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:06:26 PM
Also, here's the graph of my weight over the last 4 years. It' interesting to see the spikes where I made deliberate changes to my diet or exercise. If I look at the data over a shorter period, like say 3 months, you can actually see the weight increase virtually every weekend. I typically try to view it as a 'best fit' line to determine the actual trend in my weight so I don't get discouraged. Part of tracking my weight daily means dealing with the wild swings from changes in my sodium or carb intake. Example: sunday morning - 193lbs, monday morning - 196.5 lbs, tuesday - 193lbs, today 191.8. Daily weight logging is definitely not for the faint of heart lol.


(https://i.imgur.com/jMJCYw6.png)

Your progress and loss during that one specific year between 15 and 16 is bloody impressive mate.  What were your calories and diet looking like during that year?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:09:37 PM
Two sleeves of Mega Stuf Oreos, ngl

Strength gains going way up in the gym. I love watching those numbers go up.

I realize I may have messed up my knee. I did Insanity for four months straight, and often after workouts, my left knee would be frickin killing me (esp. after sitting for a long stretch of time). Like, the front part of the knee, just lower than the knee bone. I think it's a cartilage issue. It was the many burpees and in-and-out abs that would trigger it.

Well, I quit Insanity because of that three months ago, so I've kept to more mild HIIT  once a week, and light jogging once a week. Still, my knee is achy and uncomfortable at times. So, I am going to just going to lay off it, I think. I think I'll switch my HIIT workout to swimming, and instead of jogging I'll just be walking. Sucks.

mate, if you're in that much pain, I'd recommend switching to the swimming for a period.  You can get a great workout and is mostly upper body so it will give your knee a break.  I'm using what I'm doing at the moment to give my leg a break after a long running stint.  Maybe use a pool bouy and concentrate on your pull. It catches up with you unfortunately so switch it up now so you don't get long term chronic issues.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:10:27 PM
Damn H... If this is how you are at the end of your 20s, wait 'til you hit your 40s!

Oh shit, not even 30.  Definitely take my advice above then mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. liftin' and losin'
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:13:48 PM
Kade and Chad, same here. I started rewarding myself more as I began running longer distances so I stopped losing but also didn't gain weight, and then Covid + Christmas / New Year holidays and it got way colder, like -20°C. In between Dec 15th and Jan 22nd I only ran once before the New Year, but I didn't do diet at all, ended up gaining around 13-15 lbs. Not as fat as before, but definitely still uncomfortable.

Now I'm facing Gary's problem :) Only just now getting back into the whole diet and running routine. Saturday 5k run (first this year) was difficult as hell and I couldn't even get out of 30 minutes. Today's 5k was also difficult as hell, I was out of breath after 3km but persevered and at least I finished at 29:05.

Eating-wise, also cutting all sugar again (I ate quite a lot of it during Covid as I didn't lose my sense of taste and had nothing better to do, you know), now it's no breakfast, a routine salad (cucumber, tomato, a bell pepper, a bit of olive oil, salt and pepper) with either turkey or chicken at work, sometimes with broccoli, green beans or rice (carbs, but I like rice too much), cold cuts of low-calories cheese/some meat at home after work. Sometimes a beer, usually after a run (like today). Loads of water at work as I'm with Chad on the whole water thing, always feel much better because of it. Weekends will probably include some cheats though, it's weekends.

I do plan to adhere to the whole thing again though, I liked being thinner way too much.

Hopefully your plans will work out for you, keep the updates coming.

This.  Not necessarily a bad thing, but if it keeps you motivated, then sometimes you need it.  I've made it an unhealthy habit though and trying to break it.

Sucks about your running guys.  I can't relate to the COVID situations but it indeed doesn't take long to lose it.  Your diet looks really clean but seems very low calorie wise mate if that's on a daily basis.  that would affect your running too if your energy is low.

I'm still running through some pain though which is silly.  I don't recommend this to any of you, I'm just a bit stupid.  The month of swimming should help.  However I did an 8km run on Sunday in 42:08 minutes, 5:16 average pace.  My dodgy left leg stopping me from going to the next level.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:36:33 PM
As for my diet, the last two days plus today and Friday simply looks like;

*At least a litre of water in the morning with vitamins.  I like the flavoured disolvable vitamins you can get.  You drink a bit more and has a nice sweet flavour. 

*Mid morning - 2 scoops of protein usually with almond milk and maybe some all natural peanut butter and maybe some instant coffee depending on the protein flavour I choose for the morning.

* Around 2-3pm.  Large can of tuna with a packet of frozen vegetables.

*post workout - scoop of protein.

*Dinner - A decent amount of protein (chicken/steak/salmon), a couple of eggs with some cheese, maybe a slice of bacon also for flavour, green veg (beans/broccoli/spinach) and a large sweet potato

* Before bed - 50-60 grams of oats with chia seeds, natural peanut butter and protein powder.  Usually eaten cold with almond milk.

Thinking the more swimming I'm doing I'm going to have to up the carbs a little.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 08:02:12 PM
Also, here's the graph of my weight over the last 4 years. It' interesting to see the spikes where I made deliberate changes to my diet or exercise. If I look at the data over a shorter period, like say 3 months, you can actually see the weight increase virtually every weekend. I typically try to view it as a 'best fit' line to determine the actual trend in my weight so I don't get discouraged. Part of tracking my weight daily means dealing with the wild swings from changes in my sodium or carb intake. Example: sunday morning - 193lbs, monday morning - 196.5 lbs, tuesday - 193lbs, today 191.8. Daily weight logging is definitely not for the faint of heart lol.


(https://i.imgur.com/jMJCYw6.png)

Your progress and loss during that one specific year between 15 and 16 is bloody impressive mate.  What were your calories and diet looking like during that year?
Thanks!

Diet didn't really change from my usual chicken, fruit and vegetables  as my core foods, but i did tighten the calories. I started tracking my food  daily on MyFitnessPal (where the screen shot is from) just to keep me accountable. I would still indulge in treats, but it got logged win or lose. In fact, I've logged everyday for the last 1851 days according to MyFitnessPal.

The other change was that my son was due Aug 2016 so it was a now or never to get back in shape. I imagined it would only get harder once i had kids. I set up a home gym (a very, very far cry from the current space), and dusted off my old race bike. I was active before with hockey and some gym work, but i probably increased my workouts two or threefold beginning in 2015.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 27, 2021, 09:43:46 PM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 11:36:29 PM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence

Yeah, the first thing I noticed mate.  It's amazing the difference a simple switch like that makes.

Interesting trend too when you started a recomp.  Similar and normal flucuations then a sudden drop at one point.  Thanks for sharing that mate.  I did use MyFitnessPal too for a while and didn't mind it, it's a great tool.  I just got tired of having to log everything.  To do it for 5 years straight is incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2021, 04:21:27 AM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence

I assume you were getting latte's or some shit like that from Timmie's or Starbucks?  When I hear someone switches to black coffee, I first assume it means just dropping the cream, which would be about 30-40 cals... so when I hear you say you're saving 500-600 cals, I don't suspect you're drinking 20 cups of coffee a day!   :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 04:25:32 AM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence

I assume you were getting latte's or some shit like that from Timmie's or Starbucks?  When I hear someone switches to black coffee, I first assume it means just dropping the cream, which would be about 30-40 cals... so when I hear you say you're saving 500-600 cals, I don't suspect you're drinking 20 cups of coffee a day!   :rollin

My coffee of choice is usually a latte with caramel or something like that.  You have it on full cream milk and a single coffee can be 300-400 calories or more. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 04:27:06 AM
Day 3 and up to 9km of 60km.  Need to hit 15km but the end of the week.  Swimming is not my exercise of choice and it's already very tough mentally.

The no sugar thing is going okay, but night time I struggle.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Chino on January 28, 2021, 05:59:33 AM
I have to vent a bit here. Before I start, in reference to some of the recent comments, I NEED to weigh myself every day in order for me to lose weight. I don't know why, but I'm guessing it's an accountability/motivational thing. If I see the scale didn't move from the day before, or if I gained anything, I'll take my calories a little more seriously for the day. It's easier for me to cheat and slack if I'm not constantly holding my feet to the fire.

My weight is really pissing me off right now. Most of you probably know already that I lost a lot of weight last year being home during quarantine. By November 30th, I had gone from 300.4lbs to 209. I had some medical stuff come up in December, had two leg surgeries, and I had something like 19 days of PTO to use. I barely exercised and didn't weigh myself once that month. I didn't eat like a complete asshole, but I stopped counting calories and grilled plenty. Come January 5th or so, I finally got myself to climb back on the scale to face my shame. To my surprise, I was only at 214. I was actually wasn't even pissed. I thought only gaining 5lbs after being bed-ridden for a half a month and lazy the other half was pretty good. 

Anyway, on Jan 6th I started running on my treadmill every morning. I'm at the point now where I'm able do 2.5 miles in a half hour, which I think is pretty good given my athletic background and size. I usually do 30 minutes of running or hill climbs followed by a 10 minute cooldown. I've limited myself to 1500 calories a day, and since weighing in at 214lbs 22 days ago, I'm now sitting at 222.2lbs. It boggles my mind and makes absolutely no sense. How have I put on more weight while calorie counting and running every day than I did when I just sat around for a month? I've had plenty of shitty swings over the last year, but 8+lbs gained when I'm pushing myself as hard as I can is something I'm not used to and kind of concerned about. I've never had so many consecutive days of weight gain, and nothing even close to this amount in the given time frame.   
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 28, 2021, 06:42:48 AM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence

I assume you were getting latte's or some shit like that from Timmie's or Starbucks?  When I hear someone switches to black coffee, I first assume it means just dropping the cream, which would be about 30-40 cals... so when I hear you say you're saving 500-600 cals, I don't suspect you're drinking 20 cups of coffee a day!   :rollin

No, sadly the 5-600 calories was just from cream, and not fancy lattes or anything. I would only use 1 cream portion, but that would be anywhere from 30-45 cal per cup of coffee.

To provide sone context to my coffee habit: i made a New Year's resolution to limit my coffee to 1 pot per day (about 2.5L). That's a reduction by half or more for me, so i was slamming 10-15 cups a day with ease.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 28, 2021, 06:53:24 AM

The no sugar thing is going okay, but night time I struggle.
Amen, brother. I just checked my log, and 95% of my sugar intake for the day happens after dinner.

What do you mix with your protein powder, out of curiosity? I'm guessing water  if you're trying to eliminate sugar. Milk yesterday made up most of my sugar (which i did not expect when i just checked)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2021, 07:00:17 AM
Chino,

My understanding of your situation is that it's pretty normal to add weight when going from zero to daily cardo. I think that's why a lot of the weight loss guru's say that 45 minutes of HIIT (3 days of 15 minutes) cardio per week is preferable. My guess is that eventually your body chemistry will balance out if you continue with your current regime and you'll start to loosing again. Also, they usually advise weight training is preferable to cardio for fat burning for reasons I'm not completely sure of.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 28, 2021, 08:10:21 AM
Chino,

My understanding of your situation is that it's pretty normal to add weight when going from zero to daily cardo. I think that's why a lot of the weight loss guru's say that 45 minutes of HIIT (3 days of 15 minutes) cardio per week is preferable. My guess is that eventually your body chemistry will balance out if you continue with your current regime and you'll start to loosing again. Also, they usually advise weight training is preferable to cardio for fat burning for reasons I'm not completely sure of.
Part of this is the self-fulfilling prophecy quality that comes with adding, or even just moving, body weight from fat to muscle. More muscle will burn more calories, so the more you add the better your base is.

Personally, I also find I gain weight at the onset of winter when I switch from high volume cycling to high volume xc skiing. The skiing works different leg muscles than the cycling, and it usually takes a good 2 or 3 weeks for my body to adjust (during which I'm pretty sure the weight gain is from my legs getting more dense with muscles in areas that are largely underworked all spring, summer and fall)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2021, 10:34:02 AM
The body is a fickle mistress sometimes for sure.  1500 cals at that bodyweight does seem a little *too* low, imo.  When I was just doing cardio for my weight loss, I kept it in the 1800-2200 range.  Could be the transition of your body slowing metabolism down in the "starvation mode" scenario that is often referenced.  Your BMR is probably around 1900 cals, so doing the additional exercise as you describe, it probably isn't necessary to go as low as to 1500 cals for your consumption.

Just my 2 cents for an amateur's opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on January 28, 2021, 11:40:32 AM
Coffee people - if you're switching to black, can I recommend investing in fresh-roasted beans? The quality is unbelievably different from brand coffee or even Starbucks/Panera. These guys are great: https://www.stereoscopecoffee.com

mate, if you're in that much pain, I'd recommend switching to the swimming for a period.  You can get a great workout and is mostly upper body so it will give your knee a break.  I'm using what I'm doing at the moment to give my leg a break after a long running stint.  Maybe use a pool bouy and concentrate on your pull. It catches up with you unfortunately so switch it up now so you don't get long term chronic issues.
Thanks. Yeah, I just won't do cardio with any impact. Thanks mate.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 12:46:50 PM

The no sugar thing is going okay, but night time I struggle.
Amen, brother. I just checked my log, and 95% of my sugar intake for the day happens after dinner.

What do you mix with your protein powder, out of curiosity? I'm guessing water  if you're trying to eliminate sugar. Milk yesterday made up most of my sugar (which i did not expect when i just checked)

It was milk mate but I've kind of switched to a half water and half unsweetened almond milk.  Some proteins don't mix well with almond milk so sometimes it's just water.  Ones that do work with almond milk I have to dilute it with water.  Full almond milk for me isn't a great consistency.  It's a bit different than using whole milk like I have been lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 12:48:49 PM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence

I assume you were getting latte's or some shit like that from Timmie's or Starbucks?  When I hear someone switches to black coffee, I first assume it means just dropping the cream, which would be about 30-40 cals... so when I hear you say you're saving 500-600 cals, I don't suspect you're drinking 20 cups of coffee a day!   :rollin

No, sadly the 5-600 calories was just from cream, and not fancy lattes or anything. I would only use 1 cream portion, but that would be anywhere from 30-45 cal per cup of coffee.

To provide sone context to my coffee habit: i made a New Year's resolution to limit my coffee to 1 pot per day (about 2.5L). That's a reduction by half or more for me, so i was slamming 10-15 cups a day with ease.

Holy he'll, 10-15 cups a day!  :o
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 12:53:23 PM
The body is a fickle mistress sometimes for sure.  1500 cals at that bodyweight does seem a little *too* low, imo.  When I was just doing cardio for my weight loss, I kept it in the 1800-2200 range.  Could be the transition of your body slowing metabolism down in the "starvation mode" scenario that is often referenced.  Your BMR is probably around 1900 cals, so doing the additional exercise as you describe, it probably isn't necessary to go as low as to 1500 cals for your consumption.

Just my 2 cents for an amateur's opinion.

I agree 1500 is way too low. 

I've always struggled with the starvation mode thing too.  I do believe if you're in a defeceit you'll lose but then you see situations like Chinos, so I don't really know.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Chino on January 28, 2021, 01:04:16 PM
1500 is too low? I was doing 900-1000, six days a week, for about four months straight last year  :lol oof Figured my body had plenty of stuff to eat in place of food.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 01:23:12 PM
1500 is too low? I was doing 900-1000, six days a week, for about four months straight last year  :lol oof Figured my body had plenty of stuff to eat in place of food.

Wow.  Maybe that's why you're struggling now with 1500?  Maybe going so low for a long period you're body has lowered it's set point.  I don't know the full science but long periods of ultra low calorie decrease your maintenance set point and then a rise makes you gain weight more easily once some calories are reintroduced.  Not sure but it's something to think about.

What was your calories on the 7th day during that time?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 28, 2021, 01:35:00 PM
I agree that you shouldn't be going below 1500. You basically have to have no musculature whatsoever if 1000 calories is enough to sustain your muscles. I can honestly say that I have eaten at least 1700 calories every day, with the exception of days I have a stomach virus and have been vomiting my guts out. If I'm in 'weight loss mode', I aim for a net of 2000 (i.e. if I exercise I can eat more to fuel said exercise). In maintenance mode i up it to around the 2300 calorie mark. I've never heard of any doctor or dietician recommending a diet below 1200 cal for women or 1500 for men, and I've never had trouble losing weight eating 2000 per day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Chino on January 28, 2021, 01:35:47 PM
1500 is too low? I was doing 900-1000, six days a week, for about four months straight last year  :lol oof Figured my body had plenty of stuff to eat in place of food.

Wow.  Maybe that's why you're struggling now with 1500?  Maybe going so low for a long period you're body has lowered it's set point.  I don't know the full science but long periods of ultra low calorie decrease your maintenance set point and then a rise makes you gain weight more easily once some calories are reintroduced.  Not sure but it's something to think about.

What was your calories on the 7th day during that time?

Probably around 2000 calories or so. It was usually a Friday and it would depend on how many Heinekens I had that night.

It's been weeks though since I had a sub-1000 day. All of December was 1500+. Probably closer to 2000 most days.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 01:56:30 PM
Hmmm....since you were laid up for a bit I guess those calories aren't too bad.  I feel a long period of not a single day over 2000 calories is a little extreme though.  I'd give it another week and reasses.  Sometimes your body holds for days at a time then one day you lose a shitload in one day.

2.5 miles in under 30 mins too mate is really good considering you've had leg surgeries.  Don't get discouraged mate, it's hard work.  Keep staying consistent.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2021, 02:04:31 PM
The switching to black coffee definitely made a difference. That probably cut 500-600 calories a day. That was a the top of the steep decline in weight, so I'm sure it's not a coincidence

I assume you were getting latte's or some shit like that from Timmie's or Starbucks?  When I hear someone switches to black coffee, I first assume it means just dropping the cream, which would be about 30-40 cals... so when I hear you say you're saving 500-600 cals, I don't suspect you're drinking 20 cups of coffee a day!   :rollin

No, sadly the 5-600 calories was just from cream, and not fancy lattes or anything. I would only use 1 cream portion, but that would be anywhere from 30-45 cal per cup of coffee.

To provide sone context to my coffee habit: i made a New Year's resolution to limit my coffee to 1 pot per day (about 2.5L). That's a reduction by half or more for me, so i was slamming 10-15 cups a day with ease.

Holy he'll, 10-15 cups a day!  :o

That was my thought too.  I have two cups in the morning, but started brewing 1/2 decaf a few months back.  I'll have a couple more in the late morning/early afternoon because I like something hot to sip at ... but those are 100% decaf.  A couple of days a week, I'll reload another couple of cups of 1/2 decaf in the late afternoon / early evening to keep me going.  10-15 cups of full octane though.  :caffeine:... literally!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 02:07:38 PM
My stomach simply couldn't handle that amount of coffee.  Unreal.  There's something about the bitterness of black coffee that really irritates my stomach.  Probably more of a me problem.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2021, 02:35:35 PM
Hmmm....since you were laid up for a bit I guess those calories aren't too bad.  I feel a long period of not a single day over 2000 calories is a little extreme though.  I'd give it another week and reasses.  Sometimes your body holds for days at a time then one day you lose a shitload in one day.

Agree with the things that Schecter and Kade have mentioned here.  I'm certainly no Kinesiology major, but I have seen my body composition flatline, or do the opposite of what I'd expect, for a week or two at a time.  Maybe give it another week or so to see how your body reacts.  The body does like to find a state of equilibrium, so it might take a bit of time for it to get away from the 'equilibrium state' it found when you were in the 1000 calorie intake zone.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 28, 2021, 02:41:32 PM
My stomach simply couldn't handle that amount of coffee.  Unreal.  There's something about the bitterness of black coffee that really irritates my stomach.  Probably more of a me problem.
Actually, my stomach is what prompted me to cut back lol. I say it was a NY resolution only because it was jan 3 or 4th when I decided to try it out, but in reality I've developed a minor stomach/digestive issue over the last few years. At first I thought it was related to the ridiculous quantity of greek yogurt I was eating, but after cutting out yogurt almost entirely I'm still having issues. Thought I'd see if the coffee is the culprit. I may even just cut back more once I'm used to this just to try to reset whatever receptors in my body react to caffeine. I'm pretty sure I've trashed the shit out of them to the point that they don't feel anything from the coffee.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2021, 03:05:00 PM
If you think it's a caffeine issue, try doing what I did (based on something El Barto mentioned in another thread) ... start brewing 3/4 regular and 1/4 decaf for a while.  Then move to 1/2 decaf.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 28, 2021, 03:23:50 PM
If you think it's a caffeine issue, try doing what I did (based on something El Barto mentioned in another thread) ... start brewing 3/4 regular and 1/4 decaf for a while.  Then move to 1/2 decaf.
I'm not sure if it's caffeine so much as the acidity/bitterness/whateverthehellitis in the coffee itself. Definitely a good suggestion overall though considering how much I still drink each day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2021, 12:12:23 AM
If you think it's a caffeine issue, try doing what I did (based on something El Barto mentioned in another thread) ... start brewing 3/4 regular and 1/4 decaf for a while.  Then move to 1/2 decaf.
I'm not sure if it's caffeine so much as the acidity/bitterness/whateverthehellitis in the coffee itself. Definitely a good suggestion overall though considering how much I still drink each day.

I think you are spot on.  I think my issues comes from the acidity from the black coffee too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
So yeah, the BF function of my scale sucks.  I dropped another 1lb this week (down to 177.8), but only 0.1% BF (to an even 14.0%).  At this rate, to get to 10% body fat, I need to lose 40lbs and weigh 137lbs?   :lol :lol

Oh well... I'll just need to adjust my goals to be more visually oriented, rather than the number on the scale.  Like, I want that vein running down the front of my bicep; visible abs in all light conditions (not just direct overhead light)... shit like that.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2021, 09:23:58 PM
So yeah, the BF function of my scale sucks.  I dropped another 1lb this week (down to 177.8), but only 0.1% BF (to an even 14.0%).  At this rate, to get to 10% body fat, I need to lose 40lbs and weigh 137lbs?   :lol :lol

Oh well... I'll just need to adjust my goals to be more visually oriented, rather than the number on the scale.  Like, I want that vein running down the front of my bicep; visible abs in all light conditions (not just direct overhead light)... shit like that.

I hear ya.  At least it's your scale mate.  Use the mirror for a while and see how that goes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2021, 09:25:41 PM
Up to 15.5km swimming.  Going well.  The diet with bugger all sugar is going better than expected.  I'll have a small dessert tonight but nothing like normal.  Might even try some sugar free cakes or shit from the supermarket.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 30, 2021, 06:39:06 AM
Up to 15.5km swimming.  Going well.  The diet with bugger all sugar is going better than expected.  I'll have a small dessert tonight but nothing like normal.  Might even try some sugar free cakes or shit from the supermarket.

Along with some alcohol-free beer?  :lol  Both sound entirely unappealing.

I limited my rewards yesterday to two very small Lindt chocolate squares (they're 40 cals each I think).  Eggs bennedict for breakfast, homemade chicken soup and 2 sliders for lunch, tortellini in a rosé sauce with some sautéed onions/green peppers and ham + slice of homemade cheese bread.

Think I'll go hop on the bike shortly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on January 30, 2021, 06:43:37 AM
Up to 15.5km swimming.  Going well.  The diet with bugger all sugar is going better than expected.  I'll have a small dessert tonight but nothing like normal.  Might even try some sugar free cakes or shit from the supermarket.

Along with some alcohol-free beer?  :lol  Both sound entirely unappealing.

There are some good ones I think, especially if you drink them cold. Clausthaler is alright.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 30, 2021, 07:14:38 AM
So yeah, the BF function of my scale sucks.  I dropped another 1lb this week (down to 177.8), but only 0.1% BF (to an even 14.0%).  At this rate, to get to 10% body fat, I need to lose 40lbs and weigh 137lbs?   :lol :lol

Oh well... I'll just need to adjust my goals to be more visually oriented, rather than the number on the scale.  Like, I want that vein running down the front of my bicep; visible abs in all light conditions (not just direct overhead light)... shit like that.
I actually started taking one progress photo each week once i decided to take up body recomp. It was the only way i could mentally handle the concept of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time without changing my weight. I can actually see a significant difference between a photo at 195lbs from last month vs a 195 weigh in from back in February.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on January 30, 2021, 07:23:44 AM
So yeah, the BF function of my scale sucks.  I dropped another 1lb this week (down to 177.8), but only 0.1% BF (to an even 14.0%).  At this rate, to get to 10% body fat, I need to lose 40lbs and weigh 137lbs?   :lol :lol

Oh well... I'll just need to adjust my goals to be more visually oriented, rather than the number on the scale.  Like, I want that vein running down the front of my bicep; visible abs in all light conditions (not just direct overhead light)... shit like that.
I actually started taking one progress photo each week once i decided to take up body recomp. It was the only way i could mentally handle the concept of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time without changing my weight. I can actually see a significant difference between a photo at 195lbs from last month vs a 195 weigh in from back in February.

Agreed.  I take photos at the end of each program I do, and make the comparisons.  That's part of my frustration with the BF measurements - I can *see* the difference, but the BF #s aren't changing hardly at all.  As I said, oh well... it's the look and feel that matters, not a number on a scale (which isn't even accurate anyway).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2021, 12:34:08 PM
Up to 15.5km swimming.  Going well.  The diet with bugger all sugar is going better than expected.  I'll have a small dessert tonight but nothing like normal.  Might even try some sugar free cakes or shit from the supermarket.

Along with some alcohol-free beer?  :lol  Both sound entirely unappealing.

I limited my rewards yesterday to two very small Lindt chocolate squares (they're 40 cals each I think).  Eggs bennedict for breakfast, homemade chicken soup and 2 sliders for lunch, tortellini in a rosé sauce with some sautéed onions/green peppers and ham + slice of homemade cheese bread.

Think I'll go hop on the bike shortly.

Okay, do not try sugar free cake.  I actually found a pack of small cake squares.  They looked really appealing truthfully but holy fuck they were horrid.  Couldn't even describe the taste.  I'll leave the alcohol free beer for you mate haha.

Yeah, I'll just go clean for the rest of the 30 days.  However, tonight, one of the kids from work has organised a dinner for all of us cause we haven't had a team night out for a while.  I mean they go and get drunk a lot but a work meal with everyone, it's been a while.  At a burger place of course.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2021, 12:35:38 PM
So yeah, the BF function of my scale sucks.  I dropped another 1lb this week (down to 177.8), but only 0.1% BF (to an even 14.0%).  At this rate, to get to 10% body fat, I need to lose 40lbs and weigh 137lbs?   :lol :lol

Oh well... I'll just need to adjust my goals to be more visually oriented, rather than the number on the scale.  Like, I want that vein running down the front of my bicep; visible abs in all light conditions (not just direct overhead light)... shit like that.
I actually started taking one progress photo each week once i decided to take up body recomp. It was the only way i could mentally handle the concept of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time without changing my weight. I can actually see a significant difference between a photo at 195lbs from last month vs a 195 weigh in from back in February.

Agreed.  I take photos at the end of each program I do, and make the comparisons.  That's part of my frustration with the BF measurements - I can *see* the difference, but the BF #s aren't changing hardly at all.  As I said, oh well... it's the look and feel that matters, not a number on a scale (which isn't even accurate anyway).

Trust your eye over the scale mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on February 02, 2021, 03:34:43 PM
I've read that those scales are really inaccurate, FWIW. I like waist measurements and feel they're a little more objective, personally.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 07, 2021, 06:38:21 PM
Welcome to Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Weeks like this are why I'm glad I have a home gym

(https://i.imgur.com/Xf3pWK5.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2021, 06:45:50 PM
Yowzers!!

Reward day today with the Suoer Bowl. Had some party mix, and some sweets. It was Mrs.jingle’s bday last Thursday, so we had some dessert then too (s”mores pie - it was glorious). Weigh in on Sat was good despite that. Dropped another 1.5 lbs, even on a “recovery” week for my exercise.  On to month 2 of Insanity. I’m only gonna do 1 week of it tho - I really want to get back to resistance training, and I don’t think my knees could tolerate another full month of this. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on February 09, 2021, 09:01:04 AM
Been getting lots of full, quality sleep lately. >8 hours. I feel so great! Everything--school, work, teaching, socializing, thinking, lifting, cardio--literally everything is so much better when I get enough sleep. It's not even a proportional increase in benefits; it's exponential.

I know this is not really the thread for this, but it's a big reason I'm so reluctant to go down the family->kids route at this time in life. I think it would be guaranteed that I wouldn't get enough sleep, and all the other adults around me testify to this. Is that a reasonable dealbreaker?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on February 09, 2021, 09:02:31 AM
Yowzers!!

Reward day today with the Suoer Bowl. Had some party mix, and some sweets. It was Mrs.jingle’s bday last Thursday, so we had some dessert then too (s”mores pie - it was glorious). Weigh in on Sat was good despite that. Dropped another 1.5 lbs, even on a “recovery” week for my exercise.  On to month 2 of Insanity. I’m only gonna do 1 week of it tho - I really want to get back to resistance training, and I don’t think my knees could tolerate another full month of this.
When you're doing Insanity, I'm sure you'll burn right through the Super Bowl treats. That s*** is ba-nanas, yo.

What type of lifting program are you thinking about doing?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2021, 10:03:40 AM
Yowzers!!

Reward day today with the Suoer Bowl. Had some party mix, and some sweets. It was Mrs.jingle’s bday last Thursday, so we had some dessert then too (s”mores pie - it was glorious). Weigh in on Sat was good despite that. Dropped another 1.5 lbs, even on a “recovery” week for my exercise.  On to month 2 of Insanity. I’m only gonna do 1 week of it tho - I really want to get back to resistance training, and I don’t think my knees could tolerate another full month of this.
When you're doing Insanity, I'm sure you'll burn right through the Super Bowl treats. That s*** is ba-nanas, yo.

 :lol  You know, the Max Cardio Conditioning routine (25-mins straight) was not as tough as the Pure Cardio one (18 mins straight).  The former has a lot of fairly low(er) impact/intensity moves methinks.

What type of lifting program are you thinking about doing?

Probably a modified p90x.  Been a while since I did that one.  I prefer to have some kind of structure to my routines - if I leave it completely up to myself, I never trust that I'm doing enough, or maximizing my efforts.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on February 09, 2021, 12:32:53 PM
Still hitting the gym 6 days a week, 2 hours a day.  Shot this a few days ago:


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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2021, 07:10:10 PM
You look awesome mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2021, 03:25:48 AM
You look awesome mate.

Indeed.  I hope I'm lookin that good in 7 years!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2021, 06:20:47 PM
https://superswim.org.au/t/aqualogan

Up to 40.5km swimming with 13 days to go.  Should smash the 60km goal I set myself.  Raising some nice coin so it's all been worthwhile.  It's been a wonderful team building exercise too and the customers love seeing us in there.  Getting tough though now.  I'm a complete scrooge but it actually felt really good donating in $250 bucks haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2021, 04:56:12 AM
Topped you up a little to get you to the top of the list.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on February 11, 2021, 06:05:49 AM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 11, 2021, 06:30:59 AM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!
I can honestly say that i never once lost weight training for a marathon. In fact, it's usually dreaming about all the horribly unhealthy food i plan to eat immediately after the race that pushes me through the final 10k or so.

Good luck to you! Although i do miss running, i sure don't miss marathons.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on February 11, 2021, 11:08:28 AM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!
I can honestly say that i never once lost weight training for a marathon. In fact, it's usually dreaming about all the horribly unhealthy food i plan to eat immediately after the race that pushes me through the final 10k or so.

Good luck to you! Although i do miss running, i sure don't miss marathons.

Thanks! I don't know that I'll ever do this again. The 20 mile training run was brutal and some of my joints have still not fully recovered. Half marathon is totally doable though. I'm doing this all unsanctioned, so once the world resumes safe sporting events, I might sign up for a half.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 11, 2021, 11:59:08 AM
Past the 20 mile mark is pure willpower, if you ask me. I didn't once do a training run behind that point, and usually only 1 at that distance itself. Too much pain lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on February 11, 2021, 12:31:27 PM
Are there races going on these days? I've been out of the loop.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2021, 12:34:05 PM
Topped you up a little to get you to the top of the list.

You are a star Chad.  I didn't expect donations just wanted to share what we are doing but thanks.

Huge shout out to Gregg too for donating $100 to me.  That's incredible.  Thank you mate. The generosity makes me realise how amazing you guys are.  :heart  :hefdaddy

It's 5.30am and great motivation to go get my swim in this morning.  Was thinking about sleeping in as I have a big day but will go in early and get some more kms.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 11, 2021, 12:43:55 PM
Are there races going on these days? I've been out of the loop.
I believe she hinted it's unsanctioned, which i read as "it's not supposed to be happening but is anyway". At least that's my interpretation
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2021, 12:45:19 PM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!

Haha, you must be putting away some food.  Probably not a bad thing though.

Good luck on Sunday and let us know how you go.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on February 11, 2021, 01:24:35 PM
I walk 4 miles on the treadmill every morning.  I do 1 hour at 4mph.   I don't know how people run 20+ miles in one shot.  No way I could manage that and I know you have to work your way up to it but I don't think I'd ever make it past 1 or 2 miles.  I literally **hate** running.  Walking I like.  Running, no so much. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 11, 2021, 03:01:12 PM
Unless you're elite, you likely aren't running it all without stopping. I used to do the first hour with maybe 1-1min walk break while i refuel. Hour 2 is usually 2-3 1min walks. Hour 3 is walking a minute every 10 or 15. Hour 4 (well, for me there was always a fourth hour) was always whatever i needed to get across the finish line.

The most popular running program in Canada taught through Running Room is to do 10's and 1's the entire distance. Pretty effective, and you end up really looking forward to those minutes. In a marathon you hear all the beeps going off within a few seconds of each other from all the people with timers set. Almost surreal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on February 11, 2021, 06:57:23 PM
Are there races going on these days? I've been out of the loop.
I believe she hinted it's unsanctioned, which i read as "it's not supposed to be happening but is anyway". At least that's my interpretation

There are some races still occurring in places with waves of start times and other weirdness. I say my marathon is unsanctioned because I'm literally just using my watch and running circles around my neighborhood until I hit 26.2 miles. Doing this to raise money for local (to me) charity.

I walk 4 miles on the treadmill every morning.  I do 1 hour at 4mph.   I don't know how people run 20+ miles in one shot.  No way I could manage that and I know you have to work your way up to it but I don't think I'd ever make it past 1 or 2 miles.  I literally **hate** running.  Walking I like.  Running, no so much. 

I hated running up until a couple years ago. I always swore I was a sprinter and couldn't do distances. I started with a couch2-5k running app on my phone. Then I did a 5k-10k app and kinda settled in and probably after 2 or so years I actually started to like it. Then my husband signed up for a marathon and I said I would do the training with him and just do it around the neighborhood because I don't want to pay money to run lol His event has since been cancelled but he will run his Sunday after I do mine Saturday.

Unless you're elite, you likely aren't running it all without stopping. I used to do the first hour with maybe 1-1min walk break while i refuel. Hour 2 is usually 2-3 1min walks. Hour 3 is walking a minute every 10 or 15. Hour 4 (well, for me there was always a fourth hour) was always whatever i needed to get across the finish line.

The most popular running program in Canada taught through Running Room is to do 10's and 1's the entire distance. Pretty effective, and you end up really looking forward to those minutes. In a marathon you hear all the beeps going off within a few seconds of each other from all the people with timers set. Almost surreal

I only did the 1 20 mile training run like you said higher up. I made it to about 18 miles without having to stop to walk, but those last 2 miles were miserable. It also been raining on and off and dropped 15F degrees throughout my run.

It will probably take me about 5.5 hours - I'm not a fast runner by any means. I should be good to hit 3.5hrs without having to stop, but after that is a guessing game.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2021, 09:25:13 PM
60km swim challenge completed.  6 days left.  Let's up it to 75km.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Podaar on February 18, 2021, 03:11:45 AM
60km swim challenge completed.  6 days left.  Let's up it to 75km.

 :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2021, 05:19:59 AM
60km swim challenge completed.  6 days left.  Let's up it to 75km.

Like a boss!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2021, 01:19:08 PM
Thanks lads.  A lot of others will just make their targets or are stopping when they have hit their numbers.  A couple have 15-20kms left to go.  It's funny watching peoples mindsets during this thing and seeing the different personalities and how they respond to this.  I'll be looked at as mad for going over, but the finish line for me is the 30 days, not the target I set myself.

It's fascinating how weak minded some people are.  Mentally, I have everyone covered but I guess that's why I'm the boss and they are in the positions they are.  No disrespect.  But one kid who is 24 will struggle to hit 10km.  He's not a great swimmer but that target is pathetic.  Trying to motivate him now to get active and fit.  Don't leave it any later like I did.  So ignorant though.

Saying that I wake up and look outside and it's fucking pouring.   :lol  Ah well, at least there won't be many other people around this morning in the pool.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2021, 01:34:16 PM
30 days is over.  77km completed.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on February 24, 2021, 02:22:34 PM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!


There is an old saying that goes like this:  You cannot exercise your way out of a bad diet.  Running alone will not produce weight loss.   What you eat has a far greater impact on your weight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2021, 05:01:13 PM
30 days is over.  77km completed.  :metal

That's awesome mate!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2021, 07:28:46 PM
30 days is over.  77km completed.  :metal

That's awesome mate!

Thanks mate, and thanks again for donating.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2021, 10:02:58 AM
30 days is over.  77km completed.  :metal

That's awesome mate!

Thanks mate, and thanks again for donating.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/dykJfX4dbM0Vy/200w.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2021, 02:05:20 PM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!


There is an old saying that goes like this:  You cannot exercise your way out of a bad diet.  Running alone will not produce weight loss.   What you eat has a far greater impact on your weight.


There is something that i've been pondering... Say you've been eating really healthy for like a week and doing a 6mile walk every day and lifting very heavy things for a couple of hours a day...

You decide to have one takeaway - fish and chips... Surely you can't put on *more* weight than the actual meal *WEIGHS* ?

For starters (no pun intended) there's not going to be 1:1 transfer from food to belly.

Surely one takeaway after a week of being 'good' isn't going to do any harm ? If you stood on the scale holding your meal - it would barely register.

Interesting thought I thought ! :)

I always feel guilty after getting one takeaway like every once in a blue moon as for some reason I always think it's going to undo weeks of eating healthy and

exercising every day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2021, 03:20:56 PM
One cheat meal a week is fine if you are really strict the rest of the week while exercising.  Saying that, you can put away a lot of calories in one sitting if you really try.  I've lost weight while binging on weekends but now I'm wanting to really lower my body fat.  Can't achieve that binging every weekend, no matter how strict you are and how much you exercise.

It all comes down to your goals really.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
The actual physical weight of a meal is not what you actually the physical weight you retain from said meal.  I've said it often, if you are to eat 28-35 meals (large or small) a week, and you are mostly clean on all but 3 of them, you're still doing good 90%+ of the time.  That's an A in everyone's books.

There's no reason to feel guilt for any kind of reward or cheat meal - within moderation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2021, 03:44:37 PM
Well I didn't have any chicken in my freezer tonight for my usual stir fry ( no oil, chicken, leaf salad and sauce with some rice and a naan bread )

So I had a large sausage and chips instead. I ate it slowly and didn't even finish it. But I wasn't in the mood to go all the way to the supermarket.

:)

As I said I walk around 6 miles a day - really active at my part time job - mostly lifting boxes full of books for a couple of hours. But i've put on around 14lb

in lockdown :emo:

I know people say that when muscle weighs more ( or the same ) as fat so if you lose fat and gain muscle - you won't notice the difference on a scale...

...But I lost like 28lb a couple of years ago and got a bit addicted to seeing the numbers go down. :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2021, 05:36:03 AM
The muscle weighing more than fat thing is a bit of a crock for the most part IMO.  Not 14 pounds worth.

It's simply calories in vs calories out mate.  I've learnt that people over estimate the calories they burn from physical activity.

Sausages and chips though, now we're talking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on February 26, 2021, 06:40:01 AM
The muscle weighing more than fat thing is a bit of a crock for the most part IMO.  Not 14 pounds worth.

It's simply calories in vs calories out mate.  I've learnt that people over estimate the calories they burn from physical activity.

Sausages and chips though, now we're talking.

Yeah, highly unlikely anyone adds 14lbs of lean mass in 10 months without an extremely strict diet, and a fairly intensive resistance training program.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2021, 07:30:01 AM

Sausages and chips though, now we're talking.

I didn't finish it :p I had no ketchup in the house and didn't want to warm up some beans on the hob.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 01, 2021, 02:41:56 PM
So I have a Half Marathon Trail Run coming up this sunday 3/7......I've run this race every March since 2011 but this year will be a bit different. After having Covid in mid December my appetite for running and exercise really hasn't been what it used to be. I've been playing Hockey for 2-3 hours every sunday night....but where I used to run 5 miles 3-4 days a week has been once, maybe twice every week or two since I had Covid.

I'm not expecting to break any personal records or anything in this race....those days are gone.....but I am a good 20lbs over the weight I 'normally' carry so that'll just add to the 'fun' of the race  :lol  I'm just looking to finish without twisting an ankle or taking a massive spill and breaking something.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2021, 06:11:57 PM
So I have a Half Marathon Trail Run coming up this sunday 3/7......I've run this race every March since 2011 but this year will be a bit different. After having Covid in mid December my appetite for running and exercise really hasn't been what it used to be. I've been playing Hockey for 2-3 hours every sunday night....but where I used to run 5 miles 3-4 days a week has been once, maybe twice every week or two since I had Covid.

I'm not expecting to break any personal records or anything in this race....those days are gone.....but I am a good 20lbs over the weight I 'normally' carry so that'll just add to the 'fun' of the race  :lol  I'm just looking to finish without twisting an ankle or taking a massive spill and breaking something.

What would you average time be for something like this mate?  I still can fathom 21km on a trail track.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 01, 2021, 08:22:51 PM
Back in my trail running days i was easily 60-90s/km slower than my pavement pace. And the gap got worse as the distance went up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2021, 08:26:06 PM

So I had a large sausage and I ate it slowly and I wasn't in the mood to go all the way.




WTF kind of thread is this??
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 01, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
So I have a Half Marathon Trail Run coming up this sunday 3/7......I've run this race every March since 2011 but this year will be a bit different. After having Covid in mid December my appetite for running and exercise really hasn't been what it used to be. I've been playing Hockey for 2-3 hours every sunday night....but where I used to run 5 miles 3-4 days a week has been once, maybe twice every week or two since I had Covid.

I'm not expecting to break any personal records or anything in this race....those days are gone.....but I am a good 20lbs over the weight I 'normally' carry so that'll just add to the 'fun' of the race  :lol  I'm just looking to finish without twisting an ankle or taking a massive spill and breaking something.

What would you average time be for something like this mate?  I still can fathom 21km on a trail track.

I’ve ran this race in under 2 hours and 20 minutes three times. But I’ve also ran it close to three hours a couple times also. It’s all about the conditions since they don’t cancel it all all

My ‘typical’ road pace for a half marathon is around two hours. Trail races are a bit more tedious.....especially as i age. If I can manage a 10:30-11:00 minute per mile pace this Sunday I’d be thrilled considering I have not been running all that much lately.

If I had to bet I’d say I’ll be close to three hours this Sunday. Overweight and under trained doesn’t bode well for me  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2021, 05:31:56 AM
Go get 'em tiger!

I had some nice gains the past week.  Pullups are improving - did 7 sets of 8 unassisted in my last legs/back day (not 7 consecutive sets).  First time I've gotten thru 7 sets at that rep quantity totally unassisted.  Also have some nice metabolic endurance in my legs - the p90x Yoga routine has a segment where you stand on one-leg for just over 2 minutes doing a variety of 'warrior' stances, standing splits/twists.  I'd never been able to hold the full 2 minutes ... until this week.

I'm trying to actually increase my calories a little last/this week, aiming to stay about 10%-15% below maintenance.  It would probably help a lot if I actually tracked my intake!  :lol  For now, eyeballing it (the food, and the results in the mirror) seems to be working ok.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 02, 2021, 07:56:32 AM
Can I join up? Ive been training to run a marathon and using that as an excuse to eat whatever I want. So.... I actually have gained weight while training lol I'm running my marathon Saturday, after that I gotta get back on the rails!!!


There is an old saying that goes like this:  You cannot exercise your way out of a bad diet.  Running alone will not produce weight loss.   What you eat has a far greater impact on your weight.


There is something that i've been pondering... Say you've been eating really healthy for like a week and doing a 6mile walk every day and lifting very heavy things for a couple of hours a day...

You decide to have one takeaway - fish and chips... Surely you can't put on *more* weight than the actual meal *WEIGHS* ?

For starters (no pun intended) there's not going to be 1:1 transfer from food to belly.

Surely one takeaway after a week of being 'good' isn't going to do any harm ? If you stood on the scale holding your meal - it would barely register.

Interesting thought I thought ! :)

I always feel guilty after getting one takeaway like every once in a blue moon as for some reason I always think it's going to undo weeks of eating healthy and

exercising every day.


After many years of trial and error I've determined that successful dieting requires that you do not deprive yourself of the foods you love, you just limit your intake of said foods to "occasionally."   An example for me would be that generally speaking I avoid sugar, carbs, starches and saturated fats most days but on Sunday mornings I go out to breakfast with my best friend and I eat what I want.  Usually a waffle with bacon or pancakes and bacon.  I'm not an egg person.  Every now and then I will have an ice cream or a piece of cake at a birthday party.  But I don't do these things habitually, that's what will get me in trouble. 


So, I don't think there is anything wrong with having fish and chips once in a while or some other "not so good for you, but very tasty" treats like a big old bacon cheeseburger and a plate of french fries.  In the long run, doing that from time to time, assuming at all other times you are avoiding the items I listed above, you'll keep the weight off.   
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 02, 2021, 08:11:49 AM
The muscle weighing more than fat thing is a bit of a crock for the most part IMO.  Not 14 pounds worth.

It's simply calories in vs calories out mate.  I've learnt that people over estimate the calories they burn from physical activity.

Sausages and chips though, now we're talking.

Yeah, highly unlikely anyone adds 14lbs of lean mass in 10 months without an extremely strict diet, and a fairly intensive resistance training program.


True, but it's not a crock at all that muscle is heavier than fat.  There is a difference in the weight of muscle vs fat because muscle is far more dense.  So, a cubic inch of muscle will weigh more than a cubic inch of fat.  Ask any physician and they'll tell you it's true.  Butchers know this as well.   I don't know how much the difference is and I'm sure it varies from person to person but can share my own experience with this.  I did a couple of "Boot Camps" and at the end of the last one I did about a year ago when I was down to about 170lbs there was a period of time towards the end of the bootcamp where I took another inch off my waist but gained 2 pounds in the same two week period when I went from 168 to 170 but my pants size went from 34" to 32.5" during that same time period.  I only found this out because I had to have my suit pants altered for a wedding because the 34" was falling off me. 


I don't think it's a massive difference though.  But a lot of people near the end of that bootcamp saw their weight creep up a tiny bit and they were all freaking out about it until the drill instructor told us it was quite common for this to happen, more with women but it happens with guys too. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 02, 2021, 09:00:18 AM
Gary and I running after Covid:

(https://i.imgur.com/MQOs5XW.png)

Back from 74 kg (163 lbs) to stable 70 kg (154 lbs) though.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2021, 09:52:24 AM
Gary and I running after Covid:

(https://i.imgur.com/MQOs5XW.png)

Back from 74 kg (163 lbs) to stable 70 kg (154 lbs) though.

  :lol   No kidding. Every little awkward tinge of pain or weird feeling in my chest since Covid sends my mind into the gutter. I can 'feel' that things are different but it's not like it's affecting me to where I can't do things. But I can certainly tell.

And great work on knocking off that 10lbs.  :tup  I need to get that done
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2021, 01:10:52 PM
So I have a Half Marathon Trail Run coming up this sunday 3/7......I've run this race every March since 2011 but this year will be a bit different. After having Covid in mid December my appetite for running and exercise really hasn't been what it used to be. I've been playing Hockey for 2-3 hours every sunday night....but where I used to run 5 miles 3-4 days a week has been once, maybe twice every week or two since I had Covid.

I'm not expecting to break any personal records or anything in this race....those days are gone.....but I am a good 20lbs over the weight I 'normally' carry so that'll just add to the 'fun' of the race  :lol  I'm just looking to finish without twisting an ankle or taking a massive spill and breaking something.

What would you average time be for something like this mate?  I still can fathom 21km on a trail track.

I’ve ran this race in under 2 hours and 20 minutes three times. But I’ve also ran it close to three hours a couple times also. It’s all about the conditions since they don’t cancel it all all

My ‘typical’ road pace for a half marathon is around two hours. Trail races are a bit more tedious.....especially as i age. If I can manage a 10:30-11:00 minute per mile pace this Sunday I’d be thrilled considering I have not been running all that much lately.

If I had to bet I’d say I’ll be close to three hours this Sunday. Overweight and under trained doesn’t bode well for me  :lol

Solid.  Good luck mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2021, 01:13:22 PM
My running times have seriously stagnated.  2 weeks ago I did a 10km at 5:29 average pace per km but last Sunday did a 12km at 5:55 average.  It's so hard to keep momentum going and to keep improving.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2021, 02:15:42 PM
It's so hard to keep momentum going and to keep improving.

I hear ya.  I struggle with that in my lifting sometimes too - it's real nice when I can routinely, week-over-week, see increases in my total effort (either reps, sets, or weight)... but when I struggle and can't do the same, it's a bit of a gut punch.  I just remember that there are a lot of factors that go into it ... one major one being the day of and day-before nutrition.  Sunday, I didn't have a terribly big dinner, so my Sunday night workout was a fucking bear.  I had to pace myself more than I would've wanted, and I mentally didn't have it.

I read a quote recently that I just keep re-stating in my head during all my workouts ... "take more than your body is willing to give you".  Well, my body was fightin back on Sunday!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 02, 2021, 02:34:14 PM
When you get to a certain age the "gains" stop and you go into a sort of "maintain" mode where what happens is it gets more and more difficult to maintain what you're doing on a day to day basis.  The days of me bench pressing 225lbs for 10 reps are long behind me.  All I'm trying to accomplish now is maintaining the muscle mass I have now and not putting on too much fat mass.  I do that more by watching what I eat than by working out.


I stopped trying to lift heavy shit when I hit around 50.  I just found it was tearing up my joints and not really giving me a whole lot of benefits.  Higher reps with lower weight helped get me into better shape with more stamina and energy.  I also lost about 20 pounds once I decided I didn't need to bench-press 315lbs and squat 450lbs anymore.  I lost some muscle mass, sure, but I also improved my BMI by like 30% in a year. 



Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2021, 02:39:36 PM
I'm nowhere near that... but whenever I can move my dumbbell OHP from 45lbs for 8 reps to 45 x 10, or 50 x 8, it makes me a happy camper.  Or if I can get thru 7 sets of 8 pullups completely unassisted, when the week before I had to do the last 3-4 reps on the last couple sets with a band... those are the kinds of gains I'm talking about.

Next week... upping my pullup reps to 10, and see how many I can get unassisted.  Hopefully it's more than 56.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 02, 2021, 03:01:38 PM
Well, enjoy those gains while you're still able to make them because it's not going to last no matter how much you want it to.   Did you say you were 50?  You're probably at or near the high water mark right now.  I mean I started dialing back the power lifting when I hit about 40 but when I was around 52 or 53 I fucked up my lower back doing heavy squats and that was the last heavy workout I ever did.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2021, 04:32:54 PM
I feel I struggle at 36 with gaining and even maintaining.  I'm fucked when I hit 50.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2021, 04:57:35 PM
Well, enjoy those gains while you're still able to make them because it's not going to last no matter how much you want it to.   Did you say you were 50?  You're probably at or near the high water mark right now.  I mean I started dialing back the power lifting when I hit about 40 but when I was around 52 or 53 I fucked up my lower back doing heavy squats and that was the last heavy workout I ever did.

I'm turning 50 later this year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2021, 07:04:38 PM
50 ain't old hey.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2021, 07:18:07 PM
50 ain't old hey.

Especially with the Canadian exchange rate
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2021, 04:04:00 AM
I'm turning 50 later this year.

Lucky bastard.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2021, 04:25:59 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 05, 2021, 08:04:21 AM
I'm going to the gym 5-6 days a week. I have a routine I follow, a nice push-pull-legs routine. Some weeks I'll get through the cycle twice, so 6 days at the gym, others I just hit it once and do cardio the other days. I'm focusing on my lifts harder than ever, seriously paying attention to slow movements especially on the return movements, and really getting the maximum squeeze out of every rep on leg day, which I'm going at harder than ever as well. My gym is a 24/7 gym and even when it's busy, oh well. And motherfuck wearing a mask at the gym. Never done it, won't start now. I work out hard enough to breathe heavily and sweat my balls off as it is.

Physically I look and feel amazing. I don't weigh myself anymore because my obsession with my body image is already high and my goal is to feel better, not necessarily weigh less. I was wearing 2XL shirts in my early 20s to hide in the baggy clothing under the guise of liking roomy clothes. I normally wear XL shirts, specifically tall shirts with room at the shoulders. But twice this week I've worn medium size shirts and they've been super comfortable. I'm blown away by that. 6'2", probably 195ish pounds (around that), fitting well in a medium shirt. Add in developments with a lady who thinks I'm hot  :lol and life is really good as of late. Makes working out more fun too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2021, 09:16:12 AM
Good to hear it Mike!  Great approach, and nice to hear/see the commitment and results flowing.

So last week I was able to do 7 sets of 8 unassisted pullups (varying grips) during p90x Legs/Back.  Last night, did 10 reps for each set.  :fistpump:.  I only did one set of traditional wide-grip pullups, cuz my brachioradialis (inner forearm muscle) is a bit of a mess - doing db OHP earlier this week, I swear to god it felt like my arm was going to break (just with 30lb dbs!).  Hell, just sipping a cup of coffee, I could feel some tenderness.  So, I'm gonna park any movements that put strain on that muscle for a bit - which is good timing, because week 4 of p90x is a "recovery week".

I've been trying to up my calorie consumption this week, so I'm very interested to see what my weigh-in is going to look like on Sunday.  The mirror-test is all good.  We'll see what the scale test is like.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Lonk on March 05, 2021, 09:25:22 AM
I'm going to the gym 5-6 days a week. I have a routine I follow, a nice push-pull-legs routine. Some weeks I'll get through the cycle twice, so 6 days at the gym, others I just hit it once and do cardio the other days. I'm focusing on my lifts harder than ever, seriously paying attention to slow movements especially on the return movements, and really getting the maximum squeeze out of every rep on leg day, which I'm going at harder than ever as well. My gym is a 24/7 gym and even when it's busy, oh well. And motherfuck wearing a mask at the gym. Never done it, won't start now. I work out hard enough to breathe heavily and sweat my balls off as it is.

Physically I look and feel amazing. I don't weigh myself anymore because my obsession with my body image is already high and my goal is to feel better, not necessarily weigh less. I was wearing 2XL shirts in my early 20s to hide in the baggy clothing under the guise of liking roomy clothes. I normally wear XL shirts, specifically tall shirts with room at the shoulders. But twice this week I've worn medium size shirts and they've been super comfortable. I'm blown away by that. 6'2", probably 195ish pounds (around that), fitting well in a medium shirt. Add in developments with a lady who thinks I'm hot  :lol and life is really good as of late. Makes working out more fun too.

That's pretty good, keep it up  :tup

That's my weight goal. I am 6'2" as well, but I am currently at 225lb, but my goal is to go down to 195-205 range.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 06, 2021, 02:19:36 PM
1.


Today I walked 11.5 miles ( including uphill power walks to get out of breath - ( not just strolling along a flat road ) and have been averaging 7 miles a day doing this all week.

Plus quit Coca Cola and most sweets / biscuits for the forseeable - except for an occasional kit kat for some sweetness...

Started making Egg Salad for dinner. 3 boiled eggs - spoon of coleslaw - chopped peppers, leaf salad and sweetcorn. :) Actually delicious.

Plus home made fruit / salad smoothies. Avocado, oranges / ginger / Spinach. :)

I lost 4lb a week doing this before and I hope I do again.


2.

This is not a diss at anyone - but you know you see some actors or musicians or celebs or whatever - and their entire career - they've always been obese.

I'd have thought the rich and famous would easily be able to hire a trainer and use the best gyms etc to get in shape.

What makes anyone who is obese just never lose weight ? Laziness ? Is their image their Brand ? Would John Candy have stopped getting roles

if he slimmed down to 150lb ?

John Goodman lost the weight and he looks great.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 06, 2021, 04:12:12 PM
That's great dude! Quitting soda is always good.

I did both back and chest days today.  Probably should only attempt that rarely, but I killed it. Now it's time for an evening nap.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2021, 03:50:59 AM
12km run today.  1 hour 5 minutes and 58 seconds.  5:30 average per km. Was awesome and felt great.  4km swim yesterday morning too.  I actually can't think of the last time I've had a rest day to be honest.  Back into the weights tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 07, 2021, 12:20:39 PM
So I finished the trail half in 2:40:19....with a 12:15 pace. Considering I'm coming off of Covid in December, I'm a good 15-20lbs over the weight I 'normally' carry and I really didn't train.....I'll take it. And somehow I shaved 5 minutes off of my time from last year?  :lol I also wiped out big time for the first time in a while. I kicked a root or rock in the leaf litter and generally I can get my feet back under me....not this time. Full blown wipeout, I turned it into a parkour roll and bounced back up. No other racers were around but I'm sure a squirrel or bird got a chuckle. Just a small scratch on my left knee is the only evidence of the wipe out.




These are my times from this race in the past. Keep in mind this state park, Quiver River State Park, is literally nothing but hills. That's why they call this race the 'Quivering Quads'

2012 - 2:18:06  10:33 pace. Perfect Conditions, dry, sunny....
2013 - 2:34:59   11:49 pace  This is the year everyone talks about. There was a literal thunderstorm the entire day....they actually closed the trail at one point because one of the creeks flash flooded. Everyone who raced it that year loves that we were a part of it. There were times I couldn't see 20 yards in front of me it was raining so hard
2014 - 2:43:24  12:28 pace   There was 2"-6" of  snow and ice on the course this year.
2015 - 2"52:15  13:09 pace   Even more snow and Ice this year and it was 20 degrees out. It was brutal
2016 - Didn't sign up in time. There's only 500 participants allowed and I waited too long to register.
2017 - 2:19:31  10:39 pace. Another perfect condition year
2018 - 2:32:09   11:40 pace  Melting snow and a TON of mud
2019 - 1:50:47   11:04 pace Very Muddy and rainy....they shut one leg of the course down due to flash flood so it was only 10 miles
2020 - 2:45:31   12:38 pace Overweight and undertrained and I'm just old
2021 - 2:40:19   12:20 pace Overweight and undertrained and I'm just old.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2021, 01:10:14 PM
Nice mate.  5 minutes is a great improvement on last year.  You're maintaining a pretty good average over all the years you've done it.  I reckon next year you'll go better again!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 10, 2021, 10:31:23 AM
Leg day last night...

3x5 back squats
3x5 leg presses
4x8 good mornings
4x8 leg curls
4x8 leg extensions
5x10 calf raises

love leg day
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 10:56:50 AM
How much weight you slapping around there?

I know you're young and all, but those leg extensions can (will) be murder on your knees eventually.  If you want an awesome way to get the exact same effect, but no pressure on your knees?

https://youtu.be/RjexvOAsVtI?t=604

Did these the other night, and man... burns!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 10, 2021, 11:16:11 AM
I'm aware of the drawbacks of leg extensions. Been doing them safely since high school though. Just don't use much weight.

I'm not focusing on heavy weight cause I'm not powerlifting or trying to lift heavy. Just enough to make me sweat and tired while getting nice long controlled reps and strong squeezes in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: goo-goo on March 10, 2021, 11:17:16 AM
Hello guys

Has anyone tried Noom for weight loss? If so, how has your experience been? Do you recommend it?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 11:33:32 AM
I'm aware of the drawbacks of leg extensions. Been doing them safely since high school though. Just don't use much weight.

Just thought I'd offer some fogey-experienced advice.  Father time won't care how long you've been doing them safely for.  :lol

I'm not focusing on heavy weight cause I'm not powerlifting or trying to lift heavy. Just enough to make me sweat and tired while getting nice long controlled reps and strong squeezes in.

Cool.  Was just curious.  It's not like anyone here is entering any powerlifting competitions anytime soon.  Hell, I was doing side-arm raises with 5lb dumbells last night.  Training for hypertrophy is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 10, 2021, 11:34:43 AM
I'm not going to live to be old anyway so it's okay
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 10, 2021, 11:35:06 AM
Hello guys

Has anyone tried Noom for weight loss? If so, how has your experience been? Do you recommend it?

Sorry bud, I've no experience but I'll ask friends about it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2021, 12:48:22 PM
So on March 1st I decided to get back on my healthy regime that I previously commenced on Jan 1 2017.

No junk food. Only healthy home cooked meals. Home made fruit and veg smoothies ( real ingredients nothing processed ).

Power walking up the steep half mile hill so i'm out of breath at the top. With occasional bursts of sprinting.

All this week my dinner has been 3 boiled eggs, Leaf salad, chopped peppers, sweetcorn, drizzle of dressing and a spoonful of coleslaw.

When I'm out of eggs i'll go back to Chicken with leaf salad and sauce. No rice or naan this time.

...

So it's March 10th now and i've already dropped 4lb so I am *definitely* keeping up with this. My lowest weight was 11 Stone 0 ( 154 lb ) **

and two weeks ago I was 175 lb so yeah... Had to do something about it.  :tup

EDIT : I don't mean i've only lost 4lb in 10 days.  I only check my progress once a week so i'll check again on Monday....

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* When I was 154 lb - some people said I was getting a bit too thin. But I didn't look skeletal I looked FIT and healthy. But i'm 5 ft 7 ( about 175 cm ) So I dunno.

I'd never starve myself to get thin or anything.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2021, 02:04:36 PM
Hello guys

Has anyone tried Noom for weight loss? If so, how has your experience been? Do you recommend it?

What's the basis around this program and how does it work?  The ads give away nothing which gives me the impression it's a crock of shit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:07:04 PM
4 lbs in 10 days for someone your size is quite a bit.  2% of bodyweight loss per week is the most that anyone really should be aiming for.  Good tactics up there. 

One other thing I got advice on recently is that, while the body needs to be in a caloric deficit for weight loss, one shouldn't go more than 15% below maintenance calories.  So for a guy like me, my BMR is about about 1800 cals.  Add 800-1200 cals burned depending on what I'm working out on a given day, and I shouldn't be going anything less 2200-2550 calories daily.  This still gives me a reasonable weekly deficit for weight loss.

Hello guys

Has anyone tried Noom for weight loss? If so, how has your experience been? Do you recommend it?

What's the basis around this program and how does it work?  The ads give away nothing which gives me the impression it's a crock of shit.

 :D  I couldn't have said it better.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2021, 02:08:17 PM
I am highly suspicious of any weight loss "products".

To me they're aimed sorely at those who want to lose weight but don't wan't to do the intense exercise or stop eating the bad food they love.

THE BEST WAY TO QUICKLY LOSE WEIGHT is to exercise until you are completely out of breath and eat less shit food. THATS IT. It really is that simple.

Once I found out I'd put on like half a stone ( 7lb ) I was like "hmm whats the best way to quickly lose that ?" and then "Oh i know - exactly how I did before"...

-- Oh and I never calorie count. I just eat when i'm hungry and have small portions or large portions of something like salad. And then I might have a 2 finger Kit Kat

laters If I fancy something sweet for example...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 10, 2021, 02:13:29 PM
I'm aware of the drawbacks of leg extensions. Been doing them safely since high school though. Just don't use much weight.

Just thought I'd offer some fogey-experienced advice.  Father time won't care how long you've been doing them safely for.  :lol

Actually I want to circle back and address this because I disagree. Leg extensions are not an exercise for building strength, but rather for building muscle. High reps at a low weight will make them tolerable. I don't understand why the machines even have weights above a relatively low weight, because it's just inviting people to injure themselves and tear the shit out of their knees especially if they think they're strengthening them after a possible injury, too. I never do hammy curls or leg extensions over 25 pounds which is the sweet spot for me, I get a nice slow controlled rep at that weight without putting undue stress on my knees and I watch my ROM to make sure I don't lock out or bring my legs to a full 90º angle at the bottom. I mean yeah eventually we all fall apart but like I said hopefully I'll be dead before then anyway.

Just think that's important to remember: very low weight, high reps with something like that. It's nothing more than an ancillary exercise to squats for quad strength anyway, so fortunately I don't fuss over it much. I think of them more as a hurdle to get to the calf raises which are the real fun for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2021, 02:17:17 PM
I am highly suspicious of any weight loss "products".

To me they're aimed sorely at those who want to lose weight but don't wan't to do the intense exercise or stop eating the bad food they love.

THE BEST WAY TO QUICKLY LOSE WEIGHT is to exercise until you are completely out of breath and eat less shit food. THATS IT. It really is that simple.

Once I found out I'd put on like half a stone ( 7lb ) I was like "hmm whats the best way to quickly lose that ?" and then "Oh i know - exactly how I did before"...

-- Oh and I never calorie count. I just eat when i'm hungry and have small portions or large portions of something like salad. And then I might have a 2 finger Kit Kat

laters If I fancy something sweet for example...

You don't want to lose weight that quickly.  I've done that in the past with shocking effects.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:17:31 PM
I'm aware of the drawbacks of leg extensions. Been doing them safely since high school though. Just don't use much weight.

Just thought I'd offer some fogey-experienced advice.  Father time won't care how long you've been doing them safely for.  :lol

Actually I want to circle back and address this because I disagree. Leg extensions are not an exercise for building strength, but rather for building muscle. High reps at a low weight will make them tolerable. I don't understand why the machines even have weights above a relatively low weight, because it's just inviting people to injure themselves and tear the shit out of their knees especially if they think they're strengthening them after a possible injury, too. I never do hammy curls or leg extensions over 25 pounds which is the sweet spot for me, I get a nice slow controlled rep at that weight without putting undue stress on my knees and I watch my ROM to make sure I don't lock out or bring my legs to a full 90º angle at the bottom. I mean yeah eventually we all fall apart but like I said hopefully I'll be dead before then anyway.

Just think that's important to remember: very low weight, high reps with something like that. It's nothing more than an ancillary exercise to squats for quad strength anyway, so fortunately I don't fuss over it much. I think of them more as a hurdle to get to the calf raises which are the real fun for me.

I'm no PT, but your logic seems sound.  I've got shit knees to begin with, so leg extensions went away long ago.  Not that it even matters now, since I haven't been to a gym in about 3 years - and probably won't ever again.  Got all I need in my basement now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2021, 02:18:08 PM
Anyone else like me not interested in being HENCH AF ? They just wanna be slim ?

I'm thinking more of a pro swimmer physique and not like a bodybuilder which I've always thought looked gross.

And is it true that if you are seriously ripped - that you have to keep up training from then on or you'll eventually just sag ?

Am i misinformed ? Can you get ripped and then just continue to eat healthy and exercise to maintain that "look" ?

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Anyway i'd never go to a gym. I have a job lifting and carrying heavy things all day and I love swimming in the sea in summer. It all helps.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: The Walrus on March 10, 2021, 02:18:58 PM
I'm aware of the drawbacks of leg extensions. Been doing them safely since high school though. Just don't use much weight.

Just thought I'd offer some fogey-experienced advice.  Father time won't care how long you've been doing them safely for.  :lol

Actually I want to circle back and address this because I disagree. Leg extensions are not an exercise for building strength, but rather for building muscle. High reps at a low weight will make them tolerable. I don't understand why the machines even have weights above a relatively low weight, because it's just inviting people to injure themselves and tear the shit out of their knees especially if they think they're strengthening them after a possible injury, too. I never do hammy curls or leg extensions over 25 pounds which is the sweet spot for me, I get a nice slow controlled rep at that weight without putting undue stress on my knees and I watch my ROM to make sure I don't lock out or bring my legs to a full 90º angle at the bottom. I mean yeah eventually we all fall apart but like I said hopefully I'll be dead before then anyway.

Just think that's important to remember: very low weight, high reps with something like that. It's nothing more than an ancillary exercise to squats for quad strength anyway, so fortunately I don't fuss over it much. I think of them more as a hurdle to get to the calf raises which are the real fun for me.

I'm no PT, but your logic seems sound.  I've got shit knees to begin with, so leg extensions went away long ago.  Not that it even matters now, since I haven't been to a gym in about 3 years - and probably won't ever again.  Got all I need in my basement now.

I'd like a house with a gym but it doesn't look like that's gonna be in the cards anymore, so I'm jelly like a fish. Guess I better invest in some kettlebells for lunges at least.

@Kotow - that's me. I work out to stay thin and look good while building some strength but I have absolutely no interest in pumping up those numbers. In fact I've found that to be incredibly detrimental to my health as the years have gone by. I have slowly become comfortable with only increasing the weight when I am absolutely confident I can do it with the same control and effort I do at the weight I was previously doing and if I can't, that's fine, I'm not ready to go higher. How I feel and look is more important to me than how much weight I can lift, although if I get to the point where I can curl a 50 pound dumbbell as easy as a 20 pounder, I wouldn't necessarily complain.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2021, 02:22:21 PM
Anyone else like me not interested in being HENCH AF ? They just wanna be slim ?

I'm thinking more of a pro swimmer physique and not like a bodybuilder which I've always thought looked gross.

And is it true that if you are seriously ripped - that you have to keep up training from then on or you'll eventually just sag ?

Am i misinformed ? Can you get ripped and then just continue to eat healthy and exercise to maintain that "look" ?

---

Anyway i'd never go to a gym. I have a job lifting and carrying heavy things all day and I love swimming in the sea in summer. It all helps.

To look like a pro swimmer you have to swim and swim a LOT. Like daily and even 2 sessions a day.

To get and look ripped you need some weight training background.  You can't look ripped without some muscle on your frame. In any shape you are in, you have to work hard to maintain.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:29:05 PM
I'm aware of the drawbacks of leg extensions. Been doing them safely since high school though. Just don't use much weight.

Just thought I'd offer some fogey-experienced advice.  Father time won't care how long you've been doing them safely for.  :lol

Actually I want to circle back and address this because I disagree. Leg extensions are not an exercise for building strength, but rather for building muscle. High reps at a low weight will make them tolerable. I don't understand why the machines even have weights above a relatively low weight, because it's just inviting people to injure themselves and tear the shit out of their knees especially if they think they're strengthening them after a possible injury, too. I never do hammy curls or leg extensions over 25 pounds which is the sweet spot for me, I get a nice slow controlled rep at that weight without putting undue stress on my knees and I watch my ROM to make sure I don't lock out or bring my legs to a full 90º angle at the bottom. I mean yeah eventually we all fall apart but like I said hopefully I'll be dead before then anyway.

Just think that's important to remember: very low weight, high reps with something like that. It's nothing more than an ancillary exercise to squats for quad strength anyway, so fortunately I don't fuss over it much. I think of them more as a hurdle to get to the calf raises which are the real fun for me.

I'm no PT, but your logic seems sound.  I've got shit knees to begin with, so leg extensions went away long ago.  Not that it even matters now, since I haven't been to a gym in about 3 years - and probably won't ever again.  Got all I need in my basement now.

I'd like a house with a gym but it doesn't look like that's gonna be in the cards anymore, so I'm jelly like a fish. Guess I better invest in some kettlebells for lunges at least.

Bands baby... BANDS!  I did a band-only chest/back workout on Monday, and it was a beaut!  I only have three tensions - Red (10-35lbs); Black (25-65); Purple (35-85).  Pretty much covers the range I want/need.

@ Kotow... what wolfking said.  Without resistance training, the risk is looking like a skinny fat person.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2021, 04:10:39 PM
This weekend was a 5km swim Saturday morning and a 13km run yesterday.  The run was so slow compared to last week but it was way hotter.  Incredible how the weather can affect your performance so much.

Been binging a bit on the weekends but able to be full clean through the week.  Will see how it goes, just have to make sure not to go overboard.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on March 15, 2021, 06:59:28 AM
This weekend was a 5km swim Saturday morning and a 13km run yesterday.  The run was so slow compared to last week but it was way hotter.  Incredible how the weather can affect your performance so much.

Been binging a bit on the weekends but able to be full clean through the week.  Will see how it goes, just have to make sure not to go overboard.

I generally lose 2min/mile in the summer and thats still running at 430AM before the sun comes up. It doesn't matter what you do when its 90+degrees, it still slows you down lol

Post-marathon for me now and still nursing my right foot. Only running 2x a week and keeping it to half an hour. Tested the waters this morning with only 1 day in between runs, so if it still feels good I may be able to add another run in. On non-run days I'm doing lifting and core workouts using a friends Beach Body account. They actually have some good workouts there, but I have no idea how much she pays for it.

Anyone have Garmin Connect? We can be nosy and look at each others work outs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2021, 08:41:37 AM
I don't... but even if I did, all you'd see is that I go to my basement.   :lol

I've finally accepted that I really do need to stretch before AND AFTER my workouts.  I got lazy on the latter, and man alive am I paying for it now.  A lot of different aches and pains - nothing that I would classify as an injury, but long gone are the days when I can finish my workout, and just walk away.  Right now, my left side delt feels like it went thru a meat grinder - this is different than just usual DOMS.

Weigh in yesterday was a wtf moment - put on 4lbs last week.  Sometimes, I just don't 'get' how the body reacts to things, because there is no way I had a 14,000 calorie surplus last week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 15, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
This weekend was a 5km swim Saturday morning and a 13km run yesterday.  The run was so slow compared to last week but it was way hotter.  Incredible how the weather can affect your performance so much.

Been binging a bit on the weekends but able to be full clean through the week.  Will see how it goes, just have to make sure not to go overboard.

I generally lose 2min/mile in the summer and thats still running at 430AM before the sun comes up. It doesn't matter what you do when its 90+degrees, it still slows you down lol

Post-marathon for me now and still nursing my right foot. Only running 2x a week and keeping it to half an hour. Tested the waters this morning with only 1 day in between runs, so if it still feels good I may be able to add another run in. On non-run days I'm doing lifting and core workouts using a friends Beach Body account. They actually have some good workouts there, but I have no idea how much she pays for it.

Anyone have Garmin Connect? We can be nosy and look at each others work outs.
I do have garmin connect, but it's just to capture my data for upload to Strava.

Do you Strava?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on March 15, 2021, 12:23:03 PM
This weekend was a 5km swim Saturday morning and a 13km run yesterday.  The run was so slow compared to last week but it was way hotter.  Incredible how the weather can affect your performance so much.

Been binging a bit on the weekends but able to be full clean through the week.  Will see how it goes, just have to make sure not to go overboard.

I generally lose 2min/mile in the summer and thats still running at 430AM before the sun comes up. It doesn't matter what you do when its 90+degrees, it still slows you down lol

Post-marathon for me now and still nursing my right foot. Only running 2x a week and keeping it to half an hour. Tested the waters this morning with only 1 day in between runs, so if it still feels good I may be able to add another run in. On non-run days I'm doing lifting and core workouts using a friends Beach Body account. They actually have some good workouts there, but I have no idea how much she pays for it.

Anyone have Garmin Connect? We can be nosy and look at each others work outs.
I do have garmin connect, but it's just to capture my data for upload to Strava.

Do you Strava?

I don't. I have a Garmin watch, so all my data and analysis is pretty solid in Garmin Connect. I actually dont even know what Strava is lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2021, 02:51:18 PM
I don't... but even if I did, all you'd see is that I go to my basement.   :lol

I've finally accepted that I really do need to stretch before AND AFTER my workouts.  I got lazy on the latter, and man alive am I paying for it now.  A lot of different aches and pains - nothing that I would classify as an injury, but long gone are the days when I can finish my workout, and just walk away.  Right now, my left side delt feels like it went thru a meat grinder - this is different than just usual DOMS.

Weigh in yesterday was a wtf moment - put on 4lbs last week.  Sometimes, I just don't 'get' how the body reacts to things, because there is no way I had a 14,000 calorie surplus last week.

If I'm slack on stretching, it catches up with me very quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 15, 2021, 03:54:35 PM
This weekend was a 5km swim Saturday morning and a 13km run yesterday.  The run was so slow compared to last week but it was way hotter.  Incredible how the weather can affect your performance so much.

Been binging a bit on the weekends but able to be full clean through the week.  Will see how it goes, just have to make sure not to go overboard.

I generally lose 2min/mile in the summer and thats still running at 430AM before the sun comes up. It doesn't matter what you do when its 90+degrees, it still slows you down lol

Post-marathon for me now and still nursing my right foot. Only running 2x a week and keeping it to half an hour. Tested the waters this morning with only 1 day in between runs, so if it still feels good I may be able to add another run in. On non-run days I'm doing lifting and core workouts using a friends Beach Body account. They actually have some good workouts there, but I have no idea how much she pays for it.

Anyone have Garmin Connect? We can be nosy and look at each others work outs.
I do have garmin connect, but it's just to capture my data for upload to Strava.

Do you Strava?

I don't. I have a Garmin watch, so all my data and analysis is pretty solid in Garmin Connect. I actually dont even know what Strava is lol
Does everything Garmin Connect does, but has a larger community (due to syncing with all the major fitness platforms) and more segments (which is all I really care about). It's all seamlessly integrated, so I only really open Garmin Connect to start livetrack before I ride. I'll send you a link to my profile though. Strava is already public, so I don't care if you see my Garmin source data.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2021, 04:18:48 PM
I don't care if you see my Garmin source data.

I'll bet you say that to all the girls!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 15, 2021, 04:43:53 PM
I don't care if you see my Garmin source data.

I'll bet you say that to all the girls!
Shhhhhh...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 15, 2021, 04:46:38 PM
@chknptpie when perusing my Garmin account, keep in mind that i almost never change my activity name so the title of every workout is cycle this or cycle that because i use my Garmin bike computer to track my HR. I do change the activity type, but that's only so the skiing and weights didn't sully up my cycling stats.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on March 15, 2021, 08:52:17 PM
@chknptpie when perusing my Garmin account, keep in mind that i almost never change my activity name so the title of every workout is cycle this or cycle that because i use my Garmin bike computer to track my HR. I do change the activity type, but that's only so the skiing and weights didn't sully up my cycling stats.

My husband is into cycling but does almost all on his trainer inside. I never knew Canada had such straight roads lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 15, 2021, 10:58:54 PM
@chknptpie when perusing my Garmin account, keep in mind that i almost never change my activity name so the title of every workout is cycle this or cycle that because i use my Garmin bike computer to track my HR. I do change the activity type, but that's only so the skiing and weights didn't sully up my cycling stats.

My husband is into cycling but does almost all on his trainer inside. I never knew Canada had such straight roads lol
I live on the edge of the prairies, so those roads you saw were rural range roads outside of town. Basically just 1 mile x 1mile squares of farm land or lakes. Pretty much flat, squares of land all the way from my city to where Jingle lives in Ontario (about 3300km/2000mi). And make no mistake, the 2 provinces in that span are absolute wastelands, if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2021, 07:23:47 AM
Weigh in yesterday was a wtf moment - put on 4lbs last week.  Sometimes, I just don't 'get' how the body reacts to things, because there is no way I had a 14,000 calorie surplus last week.

Ah the body is a fickle mistress. Dropped those exact 4lbs this week, back to 176.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2021, 02:28:10 PM
Weigh in yesterday was a wtf moment - put on 4lbs last week.  Sometimes, I just don't 'get' how the body reacts to things, because there is no way I had a 14,000 calorie surplus last week.

Ah the body is a fickle mistress. Dropped those exact 4lbs this week, back to 176.

Jeez our stats are similar.  Currently weighing around 170-172 pounds, once I convert from kgs haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2021, 04:05:49 PM
Weigh in yesterday was a wtf moment - put on 4lbs last week.  Sometimes, I just don't 'get' how the body reacts to things, because there is no way I had a 14,000 calorie surplus last week.

Ah the body is a fickle mistress. Dropped those exact 4lbs this week, back to 176.

Jeez our stats are similar.  Currently weighing around 170-172 pounds, once I convert from kgs haha.

You're about 6'2" as well, right (after converting from cm)?

I'd be fine with adding some weight, as long as it was mostly lean mass.  190lbs @ 10%/11% BF would be just fine.  Frankly, anything at 10-11% BF is my aim.  The scale I use is shit for BF measurement - I can tell a difference in the mirror, but the scale just measures in direct proportion to my weight - I don't trust it at all. It says I'm 13.9%, which I don't believe based on what I see in the mirror, and in the gains (reps and weight) I've got in my lifts over the past 6 months).  I'm thinking of getting some calipers to measure it manually - which is probably for the best.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2021, 04:39:41 AM
Yeah same height.

Throw those fucking scales out already mate!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2021, 05:10:40 AM
Throw those fucking scales out already mate!  :lol

Yeah, I've got a feeling they're random af :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2021, 06:33:01 AM
14km run today.  5:48km pace.  I'm just cruising with my progress, pace is idleing but distances have been solid at least.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2021, 07:25:19 AM
Good job Kade! This is actually on par with the pace I had for my pre-Covid 10km run.

I'm still in 7-8 km range for now. Got a pair of wireless headphones and yeah, it's way better to run with the music on. Played the new Anneke van Giersbergen album during Saturday's run and 40 minutes (~7.1-7.2km) just flew by.

I need to start increasing the distances now that it's not likely to get colder than -10°C. Each time I started doing that before during winter, the weather ramped the cold up and I abandoned running for weeks. Hopefully I can do it, although my ankle hurts a bit after the latest run, I probably should rest a bit. The half-marathon at the end of April was definitely not realistic due to the weather, but I hope I can do it at the end of this summer.

The other thing is, running for longer distances is time-consuming. Right now it takes me an hour or even a bit more if you count the stretching before and after the actual run. I need to figure out which hobbies I'll have to drop if I want to train for 21k and 42k, and so far it's been difficult. I'm already at the point where I sleep for only 6 hours at best during the working week, and I'm sure this affects my performance as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 21, 2021, 09:54:57 AM
Agreed about how time consuming endurance sports are. I basically need cycling to double as social outings or I'd have no friends. I ride min 1hr, and usually more in the 3hr range. Throw in time to get ready (stretch, kit up, possibly travel if I'm not riding local), as well as time to cool down and shower afterwards, now we're talking about 4-5hrs start to finish.

During peak cycling season in Canada (May-Sept) i pretty much only see friends who also ride bikes, and my once a week jam session friends. Sprinkle in my weight training sessions, and I'm left with just enough time for my family. I couldn't squeeze in another hobby if i wanted to. I'm lucky that my wife does endurance running, so we trade off big workouts on the weekends while the other one parents the spawn.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 21, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
Yeah, I didn't even count showering as it's like a free 20 minutes brainstorming time. But yeah, add that, it becomes 1.5 hours at least.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2021, 02:27:44 PM
Good job Kade! This is actually on par with the pace I had for my pre-Covid 10km run.

I'm still in 7-8 km range for now. Got a pair of wireless headphones and yeah, it's way better to run with the music on. Played the new Anneke van Giersbergen album during Saturday's run and 40 minutes (~7.1-7.2km) just flew by.

I need to start increasing the distances now that it's not likely to get colder than -10°C. Each time I started doing that before during winter, the weather ramped the cold up and I abandoned running for weeks. Hopefully I can do it, although my ankle hurts a bit after the latest run, I probably should rest a bit. The half-marathon at the end of April was definitely not realistic due to the weather, but I hope I can do it at the end of this summer.

The other thing is, running for longer distances is time-consuming. Right now it takes me an hour or even a bit more if you count the stretching before and after the actual run. I need to figure out which hobbies I'll have to drop if I want to train for 21k and 42k, and so far it's been difficult. I'm already at the point where I sleep for only 6 hours at best during the working week, and I'm sure this affects my performance as well.

Mate, good luck with a half marathon if you do it.

Also, I believe you really have to sleep for more than 6 hours.  I personally don't think that's enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 21, 2021, 05:45:57 PM
Yeah, the science has been pretty cut and dry on sleep for adults for decades now. There's nights i only manage 5 or 6, but i always aim for 7 or more. I end up going to bed at 9pm most nights to get the sleep i need since my kids wake up around 530a
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2021, 12:26:34 AM
These days I aim for 7-8.  I'm not doing it anymore but when I was working 12 hour days, I'd be lucky to get 6 hours a night.  It was so brutal, not good at all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 22, 2021, 04:44:15 AM
These days I aim for 7-8.  I'm not doing it anymore but when I was working 12 hour days, I'd be lucky to get 6 hours a night.  It was so brutal, not good at all.

This body simply ain't used to anything much more than 6-7.  If I sleep more than 8, my body actually aches.  The past few months, I seem to have more nights where I'm not sleeping thru the night than those that I do.

And now that it's springtime, the f'n birds chirpin at 5:30am ain't gonna help that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 22, 2021, 04:58:10 AM
I know the numbers aren't everything - but i'm really into *seeing* the results of all my hard work.

On March 1st I decided to go full healthy again - no junk food etc and only home cooked meals with actual ingredients. Nothing processed yadda yadda.

Power walking up hill til i'm out of breath - every night. ( Yesterday was 11 miles total ).

And after 3 weeks - the scale says I may as well have done nothing.

I'll keep going obviously - but nothing kills my motivation like seeing zero results for all my hard work. :emo:

- Since the last time I did this same 'regime' - I was dropping 4lb every single week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2021, 05:15:54 AM
These days I aim for 7-8.  I'm not doing it anymore but when I was working 12 hour days, I'd be lucky to get 6 hours a night.  It was so brutal, not good at all.

This body simply ain't used to anything much more than 6-7.  If I sleep more than 8, my body actually aches.  The past few months, I seem to have more nights where I'm not sleeping thru the night than those that I do.

And now that it's springtime, the f'n birds chirpin at 5:30am ain't gonna help that.

I guess everyone is different.  I have those days too where you feel worse for oversleeping but I'm just finding as I get older I tend to need more.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 22, 2021, 06:38:43 AM
I know the numbers aren't everything - but i'm really into *seeing* the results of all my hard work.

On March 1st I decided to go full healthy again - no junk food etc and only home cooked meals with actual ingredients. Nothing processed yadda yadda.

Power walking up hill til i'm out of breath - every night. ( Yesterday was 11 miles total ).

And after 3 weeks - the scale says I may as well have done nothing.

I'll keep going obviously - but nothing kills my motivation like seeing zero results for all my hard work. :emo:

- Since the last time I did this same 'regime' - I was dropping 4lb every single week.

Ah the body is a fickle mistress.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Chino on March 22, 2021, 06:57:48 AM
These days I aim for 7-8.  I'm not doing it anymore but when I was working 12 hour days, I'd be lucky to get 6 hours a night.  It was so brutal, not good at all.

This body simply ain't used to anything much more than 6-7.  If I sleep more than 8, my body actually aches.  The past few months, I seem to have more nights where I'm not sleeping thru the night than those that I do.

And now that it's springtime, the f'n birds chirpin at 5:30am ain't gonna help that.

I guess everyone is different.  I have those days too where you feel worse for oversleeping but I'm just finding as I get older I tend to need more.

I couldn't sleep for 8 hours if I tried. 6.5-7 hours seems to be my bodies natural sweet spot. If I fall asleep around 9, I'm always up before 5:00 without an alarm. It's just how I've always been. I kind of like it though, especially on weekends. I get up super early on a Saturday and can knock out a few hours of house chores before breakfast, and then I still have the rest of my day to do whatever.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 22, 2021, 11:59:24 AM
Yeah, I definitely should aim for 8 hours. I feel 6 is not enough. But there's so much stuff to do besides sleeping :lol

And now that it's springtime, the f'n birds chirpin at 5:30am ain't gonna help that.

Also this. I live on the highest (fifth) floor. We have trees near the windows. We have pigeons nesting under the roof. Good thing I get up for work before they begin, but it's a real annoyance on weekends.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 25, 2021, 01:20:27 PM
Apparently my new phone has an app for running installed. Tried it today and it's actually convenient as hell, tells you the pace after each km and all that. Allows you to realize you're running like shit and need to up the pace to hit your planned time.

I'm a bit behind on technology (I knew such apps existed but I honestly thought they were all behind the paywall and couldn't be bothered), but this is something I will definitely be using a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2021, 02:38:17 PM
Apparently my new phone has an app for running installed. Tried it today and it's actually convenient as hell, tells you the pace after each km and all that. Allows you to realize you're running like shit and need to up the pace to hit your planned time.

I'm a bit behind on technology (I knew such apps existed but I honestly thought they were all behind the paywall and couldn't be bothered), but this is something I will definitely be using a lot.

Is it Strava?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 25, 2021, 10:23:53 PM
Nah, it's just a general Samsung fitness app. Strava is the one I thought you need to pay for to use it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2021, 11:31:35 PM
Nah, it's just a general Samsung fitness app. Strava is the one I thought you need to pay for to use it.

Nah mate, Strava is free.  You can pay for more in depth analysis of your activity but it is perfect for what I want.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 26, 2021, 05:18:24 AM
Agreed. Free strava is quite good still. I use the paid version, myself, but I'm really into competing on strava segments. You pretty much need the paid version to do that properly since the free version only shows your ranking on a leaderboard if you're top 10 all time
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2021, 04:05:03 PM
Agreed. Free strava is quite good still. I use the paid version, myself, but I'm really into competing on strava segments. You pretty much need the paid version to do that properly since the free version only shows your ranking on a leaderboard if you're top 10 all time

You mean it ranks you on everyone else that uses Strava?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 26, 2021, 08:08:20 PM
Agreed. Free strava is quite good still. I use the paid version, myself, but I'm really into competing on strava segments. You pretty much need the paid version to do that properly since the free version only shows your ranking on a leaderboard if you're top 10 all time

You mean it ranks you on everyone else that uses Strava?
Correct. That's only if you agree to make you stats public though. It tracks your own PRs on any given segment, as well as your ranking compared to anyone who's ever completed the segment. On my road bike i make it a goal to be top 5% of the leaderboard on any segment I've actually put an effort on. I have a bunch of 1st overalls, but those are all on sprints . My 195lbs is to much of a handicap thing up hills, so i usually race sprints. Take full advantage of my tree trunk sized quads
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2021, 04:40:18 AM
That's impressive mate.  Don't know if I would want my runs  ranked though.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2021, 04:41:34 AM
8km run around my streets this morning.  5:44km pace per km average but there is quite a few inclines around my house.  Fuck it was tough compared to my usual route that I go and run around on Sundays.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2021, 04:50:51 AM
It's not been a good week here.  Fell off the wagon for a variety of reasons.  Haven't worked out since Monday, plus I ate and drank like shit.   :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2021, 05:13:41 AM
It's not been a good week here.  Fell off the wagon for a variety of reasons.  Haven't worked out since Monday, plus I ate and drank like shit.   :-\

Hope all is alright mate.  Forget it and move on, get back up on the horse.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 27, 2021, 02:00:41 PM
8km run around my streets this morning.  5:44km pace per km average but there is quite a few inclines around my house.  Fuck it was tough compared to my usual route that I go and run around on Sundays.

Funny you posted this today, I went for a run today (~7.5km-ish, 5:57 per km) and I ran a route which I used to cycle on like ~15 years ago. There is one incline I hated cycling through when I was a kid. Nothing changed, I hated it today too. :lol

It's not been a good week here.  Fell off the wagon for a variety of reasons.  Haven't worked out since Monday, plus I ate and drank like shit.   :-\

Been there. Hopefully you can muster the will to get back to it next week!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 27, 2021, 04:14:50 PM
I walked 10 miles yesterday. Not all in one go though. 6 today cause weather wasn't as nice :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 04:28:51 AM
Backed up my 8km with a 10km this morning at a 5:33 average per km pace.  Was about 31 degrees out too, so that's solid.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 28, 2021, 04:53:49 AM
Quote from: WolfKing
Backed up my 8km with a 10km this morning at a 5:33 average per km pace.  Was about 31 degrees out too, so that's solid.




This morning's "results".... The exact same as they were three weeks ago... I dunno what i'm doing wrong but it's p*ssing me off.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 05:06:06 AM
Quote from: WolfKing
Backed up my 8km with a 10km this morning at a 5:33 average per km pace.  Was about 31 degrees out too, so that's solid.




This morning's "results".... The exact same as they were three weeks ago... I dunno what i'm doing wrong but it's p*ssing me off.

Not sure why you've quoted me here but nevertheless, if your results are the same, it's pretty simple that you are eating around your maintenance.  Your not eating less than you are burning, nor are you eating more than you are burning.

Saying that, you seem to be doing a lot of walking.  10 miles, that must take you 2-3 hours, that's a decent slab of walking.  Not sure if your intake has increased, but I think people overestimate how much exercise actually burns and subconsciously make up for it by eating a little more cause they have been more active.  It's not normally detrimental but can see plateaus happen easily.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on March 28, 2021, 11:56:00 AM
Backed up my 8km with a 10km this morning at a 5:33 average per km pace.  Was about 31 degrees out too, so that's solid.

Solid as hell. I have some runs when I do 5:30 for a few kilometers but then it's like 6:15 for the next few. Last km is usually around 4:55 though which is fairly good for me.

I started running last autumn, so I never actually ran during summer, and so I dread the upcoming summer a little bit, it's probably gonna be difficult.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 28, 2021, 12:19:59 PM

Not sure why you've quoted me here but nevertheless,

Because it was the last post on the previous page and it sucks when that happens because people might not see it.  :police: KB in rare trying to be a semi-decent human moment

but still getting called out for it  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 02:02:39 PM
Backed up my 8km with a 10km this morning at a 5:33 average per km pace.  Was about 31 degrees out too, so that's solid.

Solid as hell. I have some runs when I do 5:30 for a few kilometers but then it's like 6:15 for the next few. Last km is usually around 4:55 though which is fairly good for me.

I started running last autumn, so I never actually ran during summer, and so I dread the upcoming summer a little bit, it's probably gonna be difficult.

Yeah, my last km is always faster to try and bring the average down a bit.

It's amazing how the weather can affect your performance.  It's not fun.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 02:03:23 PM

Not sure why you've quoted me here but nevertheless,

Because it was the last post on the previous page and it sucks when that happens because people might not see it.  :police: KB in rare trying to be a semi-decent human moment

but still getting called out for it  ;D ;D

Ah, thanks mate, that is thoughtful.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 02:15:58 PM
Hmmm....Monday morning, and I'm feeling it this morning.  Wow!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 30, 2021, 10:38:56 AM
Jogged up a hill today and walked 10 miles in total. I was *spent* at the top of the hill. It's very steep and 320 ft above sea level. Its quite the slog !

But I got quite far up whilst jogging before I had to stop to get my breath.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 31, 2021, 03:48:25 AM
...And this morning the "result" is literally nothing.  :rollin

I think my scale is f-ed . There's no way that's true.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
...And this morning the "result" is literally nothing.  :rollin

I think my scale is f-ed . There's no way that's true.

What does your diet look like?  Maybe you need to start counting calories to get more of a precise idea of what's going in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 31, 2021, 05:09:17 AM
Well I only eat when I HAVE to. I dont stuff myself with junk food or cakes and sodas. It's all decent food. Maybe I should try drinking more water.


Lets just say I don't snack anywhere near enough to undo 7 miles daily walking - most of which is uphill.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2021, 05:12:52 AM
Well I only eat when I HAVE to. I dont stuff myself with junk food or cakes and sodas. It's all decent food. Maybe I should try drinking more water.


Lets just say I don't snack anywhere near enough to undo 7 miles daily walking - most of which is uphill.

I don't know what that means.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2021, 05:46:02 AM
Think I'll go and get on the bike this morning.  Time to find that wagon, and get my ass back on hit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on March 31, 2021, 08:55:47 AM
I'm saying - I'm not the guy who's nibbling at something all day or having three proper meals a day.

When I am really hungry - i'll begrudgingly have something to eat.

Sometimes I forget to eat for so long - I get dizzy.

But I don't starve myself. I just can't be bothered most of the time and see it as a chore.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2021, 02:24:35 PM
I'm saying - I'm not the guy who's nibbling at something all day or having three proper meals a day.

When I am really hungry - i'll begrudgingly have something to eat.

Sometimes I forget to eat for so long - I get dizzy.

But I don't starve myself. I just can't be bothered most of the time and see it as a chore.

If that's the case and you eat as little as you say, then weight should be falling off you.

Saying that, depending on food choices, your daily expenditure can be eaten quite quickly and easily.  People think they aren't eating much but their choices speak otherwise in terms of calories.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2021, 02:24:53 PM
Think I'll go and get on the bike this morning.  Time to find that wagon, and get my ass back on hit.

 :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on April 03, 2021, 02:57:16 AM
Good run today. First time I attempted the 10 km post-Covid, did pretty good by my standards. Need to slowly increase the distances now I guess.

(http://i.imgur.com/90pmiFv.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5wdjrjB.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 03, 2021, 08:17:55 AM
Good run today. First time I attempted the 10 km post-Covid, did pretty good by my standards. Need to slowly increase the distances now I guess.

(http://i.imgur.com/90pmiFv.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5wdjrjB.png)
Awesome! 10km at sub 6min km's running outside is a worthy accomplishment
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: H2 on April 03, 2021, 10:07:00 AM
I envy you runners! I got runner's knee a few months ago, still in PT for it. No running, squats, or deadlifts for me, so I've been hammering bench like three times a week. Strongest I've ever been in this lift I think -- probably doesn't sound like much but 185 lb x 9. Almost to the point where I'm repping 225 lb....been a longtime goal of mine.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2021, 11:33:42 PM
Good run today. First time I attempted the 10 km post-Covid, did pretty good by my standards. Need to slowly increase the distances now I guess.

(http://i.imgur.com/90pmiFv.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5wdjrjB.png)

At 5.45 pace, beautiful mate, excellent run.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2021, 11:35:36 PM
The heat has calmed down finally and was raining lightly today too.  A beautiful 15km run at 5.37 average km pace.  Was really sweet and surprised by the pace truthfully.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2021, 11:37:03 PM
I envy you runners! I got runner's knee a few months ago, still in PT for it. No running, squats, or deadlifts for me, so I've been hammering bench like three times a week. Strongest I've ever been in this lift I think -- probably doesn't sound like much but 185 lb x 9. Almost to the point where I'm repping 225 lb....been a longtime goal of mine.

Very solid weight for 9 reps mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on April 04, 2021, 06:08:11 AM
I envy you runners! I got runner's knee a few months ago, still in PT for it. No running, squats, or deadlifts for me, so I've been hammering bench like three times a week. Strongest I've ever been in this lift I think -- probably doesn't sound like much but 185 lb x 9. Almost to the point where I'm repping 225 lb....been a longtime goal of mine.

Very solid weight for 9 reps mate.

Absolutely - especially for someone your size. 

I'm back at it, did chest/shoulders/tri's on Thursday, and back/bi's yesterday.  I'm feeling it this morning - in a good way.  Been trying to get back to a quasi-disciplined diet as well - which will go to hell this weekend (anniversary yesterday; Easter dinner tonight).  Ordered some new testosterone supplements as well - the last ones I was taking were el-cheapo, so I went and spent a little more for a brand (Testogen) that is well reviewed/regarded.

Goin for a bike ride (indoor) shortly; lifting again after dinner.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 03:32:35 AM
The heat has calmed down finally and was raining lightly today too.  A beautiful 15km run at 5.37 average km pace.  Was really sweet and surprised by the pace truthfully.

Backed this up today with a 14km at 5:43 average pace.  Was running in moderately heavy rain too, was fabulous, although my throat is sore tonight which is no wonder, but worth every step.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on April 05, 2021, 03:36:59 AM
I've had enough of killing myself just to drop a few fractions of a lb.

It'll be summer soon and hopefully i'll be back at my Waiter job carrying heavy trays around for 8 hours a day , swimming in the sea and walking around the beach so It will just happen naturally.

:-)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 05, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Well fellas I'm officially 'mad' at myself. My "normal" weight was in the range of the upper 160's to the mid to low 170's. Weighed in last night at 195.3  :omg:  Over eating of the really good tasting foods and just being lazy the past few months has taken it's toll. That dumb covid in December really zapped my desire to do anything and until recently I was just puttering along playing hockey on Sunday nights and maybe running once every week or two.

Going to limit my caloric intake to 1600 calories a day. Was recommended a pretty easy to use app to track it all that I used a bit last fall, and I'm just going to make sure to do at least 30 minutes of exercise 5 days a week. I'm strictly in shed the lbs mode. I have to get back to that comfortable zone where I'm not ashamed of myself. I'm eying 170 right now as a goal weight to shoot for. Just so ticked at myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on April 05, 2021, 08:43:49 AM
I can still fit into my 32" jeans and they're not tight so i'm not too worried just yet.

But on the other hand it would be nice to see *something* for all my efforts...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 09:41:45 AM
@ Gary... we've all been there, and it don't get any easier the older we get  :biggrin:.  Fortunately, you're an obsessive enough person that I know you'll get 'er done when you put your mind to it.  1600 might be a bit too much below your maintenance though.  Even at your height, that seems a little low.  I'm guessing that's probably a 700-1000 daily deficit for you??

The biggest thing I'm finding is all the little aches and pains - stuff that is more than just DOMS, but not an injury - takes MONTHS to go away.  Right now, my left forearm and side delt are routinely aching depending on the load and/or movement.

Still chugging away at it though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 05, 2021, 02:26:13 PM
@ Gary... we've all been there, and it don't get any easier the older we get  :biggrin:.  Fortunately, you're an obsessive enough person that I know you'll get 'er done when you put your mind to it.  1600 might be a bit too much below your maintenance though.  Even at your height, that seems a little low.  I'm guessing that's probably a 700-1000 daily deficit for you??

The biggest thing I'm finding is all the little aches and pains - stuff that is more than just DOMS, but not an injury - takes MONTHS to go away.  Right now, my left forearm and side delt are routinely aching depending on the load and/or movement.

Still chugging away at it though.

1600 is aggressive but I'm hoping it makes me focus on the quality of the food I'm eating. I would guess I've been around 2500-2800 calories the past few months. Been drinking more soda than I've drank in the past 10 years...that's going to stop.....my new job involves a lot of travel and my eating habits have been horrible on the road, that has to stop.....just have to make better choices. I've been taking the easy way out.

And I'm with you on the aches and pains. They linger a lot more these days.

I've registered for my 3rd Tough Mudder....it's on May 8th and I'm doing it with some buddies. Looking forward to it. Hoping to drop 5-8 lbs by then, it's a month off so I think it's doable. I went as far as taking some before pics because I'm pretty set on dropping this weight. It's gotta happen.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 02:39:01 PM
Yeah mate, 1600 is pretty low but if you concentrate on high volume low calorie foods, you can manage it.

I did a True Grit once a couple years ago which is similar to Tough Mudder, was very cool.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on April 06, 2021, 06:49:50 AM
I hate being small. 1600 would be my base, not trying to lose weight! I have to go to 1200 (not including any exercise) to lose weight. I'm a all-day-snacker, so its super hard to eat small and low calorie.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2021, 03:31:01 PM
Did something a little different yesterday.  Did 10km but split it up into two 5km sets.  Smashed out the first 5km in 4:48 average pace which is a record.  After about 10 minutes rest, another 5km at 5:37 pace.  That second 5km was so hard after the first!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on April 12, 2021, 10:37:01 AM
Did something a little different yesterday.  Did 10km but split it up into two 5km sets.  Smashed out the first 5km in 4:48 average pace which is a record.  After about 10 minutes rest, another 5km at 5:37 pace.  That second 5km was so hard after the first!

Yeah wow, solid. I'm definitely not there yet. I read your post this morning and realized it's been a while since I tried to do a fast 5km. Just returned from the run, 25:06. So close to being under 25, man. I'm still happy though, I never run on Mondays usually, so that's a good result.

That being said, there's no way I could've ran 5 more km after that. You're tough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2021, 11:43:43 AM
This week, I’m training for size, not strength. Lower weight, slightly higher reps, going to failure, shorter rest, and absolute strict form.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 12, 2021, 02:15:31 PM
Good first full week on the diet. Stuck to 1600 calories a day, was able to exercise 5 of the 7 days including two ice hockey games last night. Weighed in this morning at 187 on the nose. 'Starting' weight last week was 195.3 so that was quite a drop for one week. I certainly don't expect that each week and know a lot of that was the easy weight to drop when you alter things like that....so, just going to do my best to stick to it and see this thing through. I HAVE to train myself to eat better foods.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2021, 02:29:26 PM
Did something a little different yesterday.  Did 10km but split it up into two 5km sets.  Smashed out the first 5km in 4:48 average pace which is a record.  After about 10 minutes rest, another 5km at 5:37 pace.  That second 5km was so hard after the first!

Yeah wow, solid. I'm definitely not there yet. I read your post this morning and realized it's been a while since I tried to do a fast 5km. Just returned from the run, 25:06. So close to being under 25, man. I'm still happy though, I never run on Mondays usually, so that's a good result.

That being said, there's no way I could've ran 5 more km after that. You're tough.

Close enough mate, that's brilliant.  5 minutes a km is really solid, you should be stoked with that.  It's not easy hey lol!  Yeah that second 5km felt like 15km truthfully.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2021, 02:30:35 PM
Good first full week on the diet. Stuck to 1600 calories a day, was able to exercise 5 of the 7 days including two ice hockey games last night. Weighed in this morning at 187 on the nose. 'Starting' weight last week was 195.3 so that was quite a drop for one week. I certainly don't expect that each week and know a lot of that was the easy weight to drop when you alter things like that....so, just going to do my best to stick to it and see this thing through. I HAVE to train myself to eat better foods.

Just from lessons I've learned mate, don't lose to quick and aggressively.  It doesn't end well if you do it long term.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2021, 02:32:42 PM
This week, I’m training for size, not strength. Lower weight, slightly higher reps, going to failure, shorter rest, and absolute strict form.

I've been training more this way lately.  Completely not worried about how much I can lift and lots of volume with next to no rest.  I think I much prefer this way and am getting more out of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2021, 02:42:58 PM
Good first full week on the diet. Stuck to 1600 calories a day, was able to exercise 5 of the 7 days including two ice hockey games last night. Weighed in this morning at 187 on the nose. 'Starting' weight last week was 195.3 so that was quite a drop for one week. I certainly don't expect that each week and know a lot of that was the easy weight to drop when you alter things like that....so, just going to do my best to stick to it and see this thing through. I HAVE to train myself to eat better foods.

Protip... I remember reading something a long time ago, that the body sometimes mixes the feeling of hunger and thirst.  If you're hungry in between meals, chug some water, and wait 30 minutes.  If you're still hungry, then you're hungry.  I'll bet 50% of the time, you'll forget you were hungry.

Now that I type that... I SHOULD FOLLOW MY OWN FUCKING ADVICE ONCE AND A WHILE!!!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2021, 03:03:12 AM
Pretty epic PB today.  10km run at 5:05 average per km.  Getting fitter but damn that one really took it out of me.  Absolutely stoked though.

(https://i.ibb.co/VgSCKCb/20210418-185725.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on April 18, 2021, 06:28:39 AM
Awesome stuff Kade.

I'm 2 months in to a p90x phase, and supposed to be on a "recovery" week.  Gonna try something I've wanted to for a while, and do a week of full-body routines - 1 move per body part; 3 days on/one day rest/3 days on.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 18, 2021, 07:14:07 AM
Pretty epic PB today.  10km run at 5:05 average per km.  Getting fitter but damn that one really took it out of me.  Absolutely stoked though.

(https://i.ibb.co/VgSCKCb/20210418-185725.jpg)

On strava now? Awesome!

Throw me a follow?
Check out my activity on Strava:
https://strava.app.link/vZLVCyjAyfb (https://strava.app.link/vZLVCyjAyfb)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2021, 02:10:02 PM
Sure, why not.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Kotowboy on April 18, 2021, 02:13:34 PM
:emo: My depression has been kicking my butt lately so i've been doing a lot of comfort eating. ( Still getting in 6 miles casual walking though. Sometimes a bit more )..

But the weather has finally improved and I can get out on my motorbike and it's not cold.

So starting again tomorrow - ( Monday 19th April ) - gonna try going back on my healthy eating and long walks regime again.

:)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2021, 04:01:58 PM
Sure, why not.

Damn bro, you do a heap of riding.  That 63km one looks intense.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 18, 2021, 04:13:23 PM
Sure, why not.

Damn bro, you do a heap of riding.  That 63km one looks intense.

Yeah... That's my main cup 'o tea lol. Wait until May-June. This is still early season activity levels.

The thing you'll miss without forking over the monthly subscription fee is your ranking on the leaderboard. In case you're wondering, you're 345/1100 all time on that Lake Lap segment. I imagine you could easily jump up 100 or more places if you went balls out for the 4k
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2021, 04:34:04 PM
Sure, why not.

Damn bro, you do a heap of riding.  That 63km one looks intense.

Yeah... That's my main cup 'o tea lol. Wait until May-June. This is still early season activity levels.

The thing you'll miss without forking over the monthly subscription fee is your ranking on the leaderboard. In case you're wondering, you're 345/1100 all time on that Lake Lap segment. I imagine you could easily jump up 100 or more places if you went balls out for the 4k

Ha, that's not bad!  And yeah, a 5km is a minimum run around there so a ranking like that is solid indeed.  I think the lap is 3.9km so might give it a go.  Last week a 5km around there was 4:48, so I'd have to move it.  Could go slightly faster I think with a km less.

I'm not that serious with Strava, it's only really to keep track of my own progress and that lap is the main time I use it.  Been doing some Saturday runs too in different places but through the week it's all treadmill work anyway.

Looking forward to more of your rides mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 03, 2021, 02:58:08 PM
Protip... Dairy Queen Blizzard is NOT an effective pre-workout meal!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 03, 2021, 03:20:20 PM
Protip... Dairy Queen Blizzard is NOT an effective pre-workout meal!
I worked at a restaurant with a high level track athlete server, and she swore by frozen Oreos as her go to pre-race food. Kinda shocked me
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 03, 2021, 03:33:05 PM
Protip... Dairy Queen Blizzard is NOT an effective pre-workout meal!
I worked at a restaurant with a high level track athlete server, and she swore by frozen Oreos as her go to pre-race food. Kinda shocked me

Well, I did p90x Chest/Back last night, and I've NEVER been so gassed doing it - and I wasn't doing anything horribly 'bigger' (reps or weights) than I've done in the past.  I can only chalk it up to being not appropriately fuelled.

Then again, if she ate a 27-pack of oreos, that probably would give her more fuel than the 1/2 large blizzard (about 400 cals) I had last night.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 09:43:02 PM
Protip... Dairy Queen Blizzard is NOT an effective pre-workout meal!

No idea what that is but I'm guessing ice cream?  Sounds like something I'd consume.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 04, 2021, 04:58:35 AM
Protip... Dairy Queen Blizzard is NOT an effective pre-workout meal!

No idea what that is but I'm guessing ice cream?  Sounds like something I'd consume.

No DQ down under, eh?  Pity.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/PvsX60XrMcIG86tVn5WOMQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTQ4MS4zMzMzMzMzMzMzMzMz/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/DQnpdgT2hgbsuTndMTjjVQ--~B/aD03MjI7dz0xNDQwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/cosmopolitan_438/e1d506231acbe3ab3ddd369eba2cedb1)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2021, 05:30:01 AM
 :hefdaddy

We probably have shit like that at Cold Rock or Baskin Robbins perhaps but I don't venture to those places.  A McDonalds McFlurry will do me which somewhat similar.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 04, 2021, 06:36:21 AM
:hefdaddy

We probably have shit like that at Cold Rock or Baskin Robbins perhaps but I don't venture to those places.  A McDonalds McFlurry will do me which somewhat similar.

McFlurry is a knock off of the DQ Blizzard. Still good, but not quite on the same level as a Blizzard
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on May 04, 2021, 06:47:09 AM
My pre-run nibble is a hershey nugget. Gotta get the endorphins going.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 04, 2021, 10:23:53 AM
:hefdaddy

We probably have shit like that at Cold Rock or Baskin Robbins perhaps but I don't venture to those places.  A McDonalds McFlurry will do me which somewhat similar.

McFlurry is a knock off of the DQ Blizzard. Still good, but not quite on the same level as a Blizzard

Exactly.  And a low quality knock off at that.  I can't remember the last time I had a McFlurry.  DQ is the go-to ice cream.  Marble Slab if we're feeling especially fiesty.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 04, 2021, 11:50:31 AM
:hefdaddy

We probably have shit like that at Cold Rock or Baskin Robbins perhaps but I don't venture to those places.  A McDonalds McFlurry will do me which somewhat similar.

McFlurry is a knock off of the DQ Blizzard. Still good, but not quite on the same level as a Blizzard

A Marble Slab opened up right beside the DQ in my neighborhood. Tough choices for ice cream now.

Exactly.  And a low quality knock off at that.  I can't remember the last time I had a McFlurry.  DQ is the go-to ice cream.  Marble Slab if we're feeling especially fiesty.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2021, 03:11:58 PM
:hefdaddy

We probably have shit like that at Cold Rock or Baskin Robbins perhaps but I don't venture to those places.  A McDonalds McFlurry will do me which somewhat similar.

McFlurry is a knock off of the DQ Blizzard. Still good, but not quite on the same level as a Blizzard

Exactly.  And a low quality knock off at that.  I can't remember the last time I had a McFlurry.  DQ is the go-to ice cream.  Marble Slab if we're feeling especially fiesty.

Damn, way to make me jealous.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on May 05, 2021, 06:51:49 AM
I'm assuming Marble Slab is an east coast version of Cold Stone?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 05, 2021, 07:21:00 AM
I'm assuming Marble Slab is an east coast version of Cold Stone?

Never heard of Cold Stone. I assume that's only in the US. Marble Slab is headquartered in Georgia, so there must be some US locations. But we definitely have them coast to coast here if Jingle has them in Toronto, too.

They sell ice cream and ice cream cakes, mostly. Honestly, probably best for your nutrition if you don't have one near you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 05, 2021, 07:36:24 AM
I'm assuming Marble Slab is an east coast version of Cold Stone?

Yes, same thing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2021, 04:24:08 PM
Couldn't get to the gym on Tuesday due to working late, but in the morning I decided to challenge myself on how long it would take me to do 500 pushups.  Form probably not the best for a lot of them, but I got the result.  Took around 28 minutes but I tell you all, I can't remember the last time my chest was that sore, I was shocked.  Have just recovered today.  Goes to show that the numbers on the weights doesn't really matter, it's all the effort you put in as that beat any chest session.  Or I need to up my chest sessions, which is probably the case.  Doing something different too is always a good thing however.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Chino on May 26, 2021, 02:16:22 PM
My mom sent me an old photo from about 2 years ago. It's hard to wrap my head around. Pic on the right was taken yesterday. It's 90lbs exactly between the two photos.

(https://preview.redd.it/9er66lfqui171.jpg?width=978&auto=webp&s=f36974e4001b94c93405e959b52a137b4a63d888)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 26, 2021, 02:44:23 PM
That's awesome Brian  :tup  That's a lot of hard work.



Although I don't know how you do it considering all the mouth watering pics you post of the smoking/BBQing you do  :lol 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2021, 04:30:08 PM
My mom sent me an old photo from about 2 years ago. It's hard to wrap my head around. Pic on the right was taken yesterday. It's 90lbs exactly between the two photos.

(https://preview.redd.it/9er66lfqui171.jpg?width=978&auto=webp&s=f36974e4001b94c93405e959b52a137b4a63d888)

Holy hell!! That's incredible mate!  A massive achievement, you should be so proud.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2021, 05:00:53 PM
Couldn't get to the gym on Tuesday due to working late, but in the morning I decided to challenge myself on how long it would take me to do 500 pushups.  Form probably not the best for a lot of them, but I got the result.  Took around 28 minutes but I tell you all, I can't remember the last time my chest was that sore, I was shocked.  Have just recovered today.  Goes to show that the numbers on the weights doesn't really matter, it's all the effort you put in as that beat any chest session.  Or I need to up my chest sessions, which is probably the case.  Doing something different too is always a good thing however.

Challenge accepted!  On the weekend I wrap up my p90x cycle*.  On my 'in-between' week, I'll take the 500 pushup challenge and see if I can beat ya!  Wonder what it'd be like for 100 pullups?

@ Chino.... bitchin'!  Well done pal.

Just under 6 months until my 50th, and personal challenge of getting in the best shape of my life.  Well, I'm already there (and have been for a while), so I had to get a little more objective and prescriptive on my goals - and even some of those I've already met.

* - really happy with my gains - I started taking Testosterone supplements, and I think those are making a contribution to my gains
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Chino on May 27, 2021, 05:49:14 AM
Thanks dudes  :tup

Although I don't know how you do it considering all the mouth watering pics you post of the smoking/BBQing you do  :lol 

Like most of my hobbies, I get more joy out of the process rather than the end result. Despite what my Instagram feed looks like, I don't actually consume that much BBQ. I just love cooking and sharing it. If you take steaks out of the equation, I bet for every $1 worth of BBQ I actually eat, I give $8-$10 away to family and friends that I invite over. I like the atmosphere that BBQing creates more than the food itself. Also, I'm of the mind that if I'm going to be burning X amount of wood and sitting outside all day anyway, what's the point in cooking a single rack of ribs? Might as well fill the grill.

Mac and Cheese is the real bitch though. I could take or leave the meat once I start getting full, but I'm a gluttonous p.o.s when it comes to that stuff  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2021, 06:02:00 AM
Couldn't get to the gym on Tuesday due to working late, but in the morning I decided to challenge myself on how long it would take me to do 500 pushups.  Form probably not the best for a lot of them, but I got the result.  Took around 28 minutes but I tell you all, I can't remember the last time my chest was that sore, I was shocked.  Have just recovered today.  Goes to show that the numbers on the weights doesn't really matter, it's all the effort you put in as that beat any chest session.  Or I need to up my chest sessions, which is probably the case.  Doing something different too is always a good thing however.

Challenge accepted!  On the weekend I wrap up my p90x cycle*.  On my 'in-between' week, I'll take the 500 pushup challenge and see if I can beat ya!  Wonder what it'd be like for 100 pullups?

@ Chino.... bitchin'!  Well done pal.

Just under 6 months until my 50th, and personal challenge of getting in the best shape of my life.  Well, I'm already there (and have been for a while), so I had to get a little more objective and prescriptive on my goals - and even some of those I've already met.

* - really happy with my gains - I started taking Testosterone supplements, and I think those are making a contribution to my gains

What supplements mate and why are you taking them if you don't mind me asking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2021, 07:00:21 AM
Testogen.  And while I didn’t get an actual diagnosis, I’ve felt I have low testosterone for quite some time, and it’s certainly a natural part of aging. I was taking another brand a couple of years ago, but this brand is one of the more highly rated ones from the research I did - and higher priced!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2021, 02:07:48 PM
Something I have to look forward to. There's actually been a few times in the past where I've questioned my own and thought something might be low.  Things seem to recover but I'm finding as I get older the importance of diet, stress and sleep.  Have to be more maticulos as time goes on.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2021, 04:58:27 AM
Been doing an insane amount of running lately.  This week I've run between 6-10km each morning before work.  It's just so addicting.  There's something about waking up, dragging your ass out of bed and going out at sunrise and running 8-10km's.  It's challenging, lonely, daunting and just tests you mentally. 

Today was a big one though, 15km at an average of 5:17 per km.  1 hour 19 minutes and 19 seconds.  Getting fitter and can go longer while holding a good pace.  Although, I can't eat enough to not lose weight.  I've upped my carbs and resulted to cereals just to get calories in.  Getting enough calories in protein, veg and oats just wasn't doing it.  I'm needing way more simple sugars to fit more in and not drop weight.  It still drops though and I don't want to lose anymore truthfully.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 30, 2021, 05:35:35 AM
Been doing an insane amount of running lately.  This week I've run between 6-10km each morning before work.  It's just so addicting.  There's something about waking up, dragging your ass out of bed and going out at sunrise and running 8-10km's.  It's challenging, lonely, daunting and just tests you mentally. 

Today was a big one though, 15km at an average of 5:17 per km.  1 hour 19 minutes and 19 seconds.  Getting fitter and can go longer while holding a good pace.  Although, I can't eat enough to not lose weight.  I've upped my carbs and resulted to cereals just to get calories in.  Getting enough calories in protein, veg and oats just wasn't doing it.  I'm needing way more simple sugars to fit more in and not drop weight.  It still drops though and I don't want to lose anymore truthfully.
Do you refuel at all during your runs? On my rides I end up eating back 1/3 to 1/2 of my calorie burn on the ride just to maintain performance, and I find this slows the weight loss vs. periods where I don't refuel as much on the bike (usually by design if I'm trying to lose)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2021, 07:39:28 AM
Been doing an insane amount of running lately.  This week I've run between 6-10km each morning before work.  It's just so addicting.  There's something about waking up, dragging your ass out of bed and going out at sunrise and running 8-10km's slapping some iron around.  It's challenging, lonely, daunting and just tests you mentally. 

Fix'd for me.  Did Legs & Back this morning.  1h10m of various squats, lunges, calf raises and pullups.  I've been doing early morning workouts a couple times a week lately, and hating/loving it at the same time.  It's a chore to mentally get ready, but I feel great after I'm done.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: KevShmev on May 30, 2021, 11:17:39 AM
Nice work, Chino!  That's awesome.  :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Been doing an insane amount of running lately.  This week I've run between 6-10km each morning before work.  It's just so addicting.  There's something about waking up, dragging your ass out of bed and going out at sunrise and running 8-10km's.  It's challenging, lonely, daunting and just tests you mentally. 

Today was a big one though, 15km at an average of 5:17 per km.  1 hour 19 minutes and 19 seconds.  Getting fitter and can go longer while holding a good pace.  Although, I can't eat enough to not lose weight.  I've upped my carbs and resulted to cereals just to get calories in.  Getting enough calories in protein, veg and oats just wasn't doing it.  I'm needing way more simple sugars to fit more in and not drop weight.  It still drops though and I don't want to lose anymore truthfully.
Do you refuel at all during your runs? On my rides I end up eating back 1/3 to 1/2 of my calorie burn on the ride just to maintain performance, and I find this slows the weight loss vs. periods where I don't refuel as much on the bike (usually by design if I'm trying to lose)

No, I don't eat anything mid run and the morning runs are fasted.  Don't even take water just my phone.  I don't know if I could stomach any food mid run honestly.  I even force myself something to eat when I get back.  Have to make more of an effort.  My strength in the gym has maintained which is a good sign, but I have to be careful.

Been doing an insane amount of running lately.  This week I've run between 6-10km each morning before work.  It's just so addicting.  There's something about waking up, dragging your ass out of bed and going out at sunrise and running 8-10km's slapping some iron around.  It's challenging, lonely, daunting and just tests you mentally. 

Fix'd for me.  Did Legs & Back this morning.  1h10m of various squats, lunges, calf raises and pullups.  I've been doing early morning workouts a couple times a week lately, and hating/loving it at the same time.  It's a chore to mentally get ready, but I feel great after I'm done.

Exactly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 03, 2021, 07:53:43 PM
Couldn't get to the gym on Tuesday due to working late, but in the morning I decided to challenge myself on how long it would take me to do 500 pushups.  Form probably not the best for a lot of them, but I got the result. 
Challenge accepted! 

Kade, you're a bugger.  I just finished 'em.  Kinda glad I had the challenge, and a goal in mind.  It had been a long evening of doing stuff around the house, and would've been very easy just to pack it in, but tonight was Chest in the schedule, so I was determined to hammer those suckers out.

26:01.  :fistpump:

But idiot me didn't count properly, and that was only 400 pushups.  How the hell did you hammer out 500 in 28 minutes!?!?!

My form was pretty strict (at least, it was 100% consistent start to finish - nose to the ground; elbow lockout) all the way through, although I was doing speed pushups.  Tracking my progress:

Reps - Time
100 - 3:30
150 - 6:30
190 - 10:00
255 - 15:00
320 - 20:00
400 - 26:01

Next challenge ... 100 burpees.  I'll let ya know when I do it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 03, 2021, 08:35:08 PM
Kade, i noticed you joined the 300km strava challenge. That's a big one. What's your strategy? Run 10k a day for the 30?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:10:32 PM
Couldn't get to the gym on Tuesday due to working late, but in the morning I decided to challenge myself on how long it would take me to do 500 pushups.  Form probably not the best for a lot of them, but I got the result. 
Challenge accepted! 

Kade, you're a bugger.  I just finished 'em.  Kinda glad I had the challenge, and a goal in mind.  It had been a long evening of doing stuff around the house, and would've been very easy just to pack it in, but tonight was Chest in the schedule, so I was determined to hammer those suckers out.

26:01.  :fistpump:

But idiot me didn't count properly, and that was only 400 pushups.  How the hell did you hammer out 500 in 28 minutes!?!?!

My form was pretty strict (at least, it was 100% consistent start to finish - nose to the ground; elbow lockout) all the way through, although I was doing speed pushups.  Tracking my progress:

Reps - Time
100 - 3:30
150 - 6:30
190 - 10:00
255 - 15:00
320 - 20:00
400 - 26:01

Next challenge ... 100 burpees.  I'll let ya know when I do it.

Solid effort.  I'd say though my form as it went one definitely wasn't as strict.  Probably would add a lot more time if I did each one properly.  Definitely not nose to ground though as it went on.  If you did that strict for 400, that's fucking amazing.  It was something fun and different though as a workout.

Burpees.......I fucking loathe them.  Absolute calorie shredder of an exercise though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:18:13 PM
Kade, i noticed you joined the 300km strava challenge. That's a big one. What's your strategy? Run 10k a day for the 30?

Hey Rich,

You probably won't believe the story but over the last couple of weeks I started doing some runs before work.  Last week though I ended up doing one every morning and by Friday knocked out a 10km.  My routine has been monotonous and been going through a bit of groundhog day with work etc.  Was finding it tougher and tougher to get out of bed and get to work everyday.  Decided something needed to change and that's where I thought a morning run might help.

Anyway, the effect has been positive and I thought last Friday, "I wonder if I can do 10km every day for the month on June."  Did a 5km evening run on the treadmill and immediately got up on the 1st and did a difficult 10km.  2nd of June as I was running I thought it was an impossible task I set.  Then looking through my Strava feed and mulling around I found challenges and saw 300km for the month of June! "Get the fuck out of here," I thought and was questioning it after the run on day 2 so immediately joined.

But to cut the bullshit, yeah 10km a day I think is the strategy, as daunting as that sounds.  My main goal though is to keep consistent pace.  Each day so far my average pace has been 5:32, 5:28, 5:28, 5:29 and today being Saturday had no time constraints and did a 12km at 5:27 average per km.  52km in 5 days at that average pace I'm happy with, just don't want it to slip.  That volume is something I've never done even on the treadmill, nowhere near it.  If I can front load some km's like today baking 2km, that will be good moving forward mentally.  Not trying to compete with anyone in the rankings, but excited to get it done.

I will add, my hamstrings aren't coping very well so far, and weight sessions this week were all upper body.  I don't see how I'd be able to do a heavy leg day a week, the next days run would be impossible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 04, 2021, 05:34:30 PM
Honestly, the overall rankings on those challenges are bogus. At least the cycling ones are. People will have 50hrs and 5000km after the first 12 hrs of the challenge. I join the 400 or 800km riding challenge each month just for goal setting. I don't even bother with those leaderboards either.

Good on you, Kade. 300km in a month is big mileage. You could train for a marathon and run less than that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 08:21:14 PM
Honestly, the overall rankings on those challenges are bogus. At least the cycling ones are. People will have 50hrs and 5000km after the first 12 hrs of the challenge. I join the 400 or 800km riding challenge each month just for goal setting. I don't even bother with those leaderboards either.

Good on you, Kade. 300km in a month is big mileage. You could train for a marathon and run less than that.

I did have a look at the people at the top, like 190km in the first 3 days?  WTF?  Seriously?!  I did question and had the same though and surely thought some were bullshit.  Not sure what they have to prove by doing that.  And yeah, I think goal setting is the main reason.  Not sure exact the goal long term but making sure I'm making progress in any way I think is key.  I should stop being a tightass too and subscribe to get full features of the app.

Yeah, it's a bit daunting the amount but I've already done a sixth so I'll keep going.  Have to learn to force feed myself at times too, that's a slight issue.

Thanks for following Rich, you've done some nice rides yourself, some of those elevations must be brutal on the legs.  Lots of frequency too in your rides.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 04, 2021, 10:14:17 PM
Lol thanks. Wait until you see Sunday's ride. That one will be a doozy
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2021, 03:16:43 AM
Lol thanks. Wait until you see Sunday's ride. That one will be a doozy

Yeah nice, can't wait.  Go and crush it mate!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2021, 05:39:03 AM
Man, the commentary of 10km/day being brutal just puts what Terry Fox did - ON ONE FUCKING LEG - absolutely mind bending.

And it's funny, I knew a guy 20 years ago by the name of Larry Schecter, so I always pictured you as a "Larry"  :lol .  Stupid, I know.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2021, 06:01:20 AM
Man, the commentary of 10km/day being brutal just puts what Terry Fox did - ON ONE FUCKING LEG - absolutely mind bending.

And it's funny, I knew a guy 20 years ago by the name of Larry Schecter, so I always pictured you as a "Larry"  :lol .  Stupid, I know.

I had to goggle this guy.  What a beast!  Running a marathon a day across the country with an artificial leg.  And I'm bitching about 10km a day?!  Pfft, where's my shoes?!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2021, 06:45:17 AM
Man, the commentary of 10km/day being brutal just puts what Terry Fox did - ON ONE FUCKING LEG - absolutely mind bending.

And it's funny, I knew a guy 20 years ago by the name of Larry Schecter, so I always pictured you as a "Larry"  :lol .  Stupid, I know.

I had to goggle this guy.  What a beast!  Running a marathon a day across the country with an artificial leg.  And I'm bitching about 10km a day?!  Pfft, where's my shoes?!

Not only for the physical accomplishments during the Marathon of Hope, but his legacy is even more enormous - as of last year, over $800M has been raised in his name for cancer research.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2021, 07:19:57 AM
Man, the commentary of 10km/day being brutal just puts what Terry Fox did - ON ONE FUCKING LEG - absolutely mind bending.

And it's funny, I knew a guy 20 years ago by the name of Larry Schecter, so I always pictured you as a "Larry"  :lol .  Stupid, I know.

I had to goggle this guy.  What a beast!  Running a marathon a day across the country with an artificial leg.  And I'm bitching about 10km a day?!  Pfft, where's my shoes?!

Not only for the physical accomplishments during the Marathon of Hope, but his legacy is even more enormous - as of last year, over $800M has been raised in his name for cancer research.

Every step he took was worthwhile then.  Outstanding.  What an inspiration.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 05, 2021, 07:41:53 AM
Man, the commentary of 10km/day being brutal just puts what Terry Fox did - ON ONE FUCKING LEG - absolutely mind bending.

And it's funny, I knew a guy 20 years ago by the name of Larry Schecter, so I always pictured you as a "Larry"  :lol .  Stupid, I know.
Yeah... Schechter is the brand of guitars i fancy lol. Larry is similar to my last name, so there's some serious validity to your point though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 05, 2021, 09:25:36 PM
My 5 year old son watched part of an Athlean-X video with me. Now he says i need a better "muscle pack" so i can be like the guy in the video. So i guess the new standard for aesthetics in the house is internet fitness influencer.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 03:28:55 AM
My 5 year old son watched part of an Athlean-X video with me. Now he says i need a better "muscle pack" so i can be like the guy in the video. So i guess the new standard for aesthetics in the house is internet fitness influencer.

Ha!  Kids say the darndest things!

Jeff is shredded to the shithouse though, holy hell!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 03:31:24 AM
Usual Sunday run that I look forward to I actually dreaded today funnily enough.  I went out there just wanting to get it over with and came up with a PB.  10km and an average pace of 5:05.  Solid.  Truth be told it absolutely wrecked me though.  Will try and get to bed a little earlier and no idea how I'm going to get up Monday morning and do that again.  8 degrees tomorrow morning too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 06, 2021, 05:28:43 AM
My 5 year old son watched part of an Athlean-X video with me. Now he says i need a better "muscle pack" so i can be like the guy in the video. So i guess the new standard for aesthetics in the house is internet fitness influencer.

I'll give him (Jeff) this... the 6-pack shuffle access that you get with any of his programs fucking works.  I've done 3 of his programs, and do a 6-pack routine 3 days a week with cardio, and like I said, it works. 

Weigh-in this morning ... 173.6 - and I haven't even been trying to lose weight - if anything, I've been trying to increase my cals cuz I want to put some muscle on.  The scale says I'm 13.6 BF; skinfold calipers say 11.1%.  I'll take the latter - cuz what I see in the mirror doesn't seem like I would be in the 13% range.

Gonna go do legs in an hour or so.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 06, 2021, 02:32:18 PM
Ughhh. Hit something on my ride today. So now 2/3 bikes are in the shop. Sad to say, but i might end up back on my indoor bike for a while.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 04:09:34 PM
Ughhh. Hit something on my ride today. So now 2/3 bikes are in the shop. Sad to say, but i might end up back on my indoor bike for a while.

That's gutting mate.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
My 5 year old son watched part of an Athlean-X video with me. Now he says i need a better "muscle pack" so i can be like the guy in the video. So i guess the new standard for aesthetics in the house is internet fitness influencer.

I'll give him (Jeff) this... the 6-pack shuffle access that you get with any of his programs fucking works.  I've done 3 of his programs, and do a 6-pack routine 3 days a week with cardio, and like I said, it works. 

Weigh-in this morning ... 173.6 - and I haven't even been trying to lose weight - if anything, I've been trying to increase my cals cuz I want to put some muscle on.  The scale says I'm 13.6 BF; skinfold calipers say 11.1%.  I'll take the latter - cuz what I see in the mirror doesn't seem like I would be in the 13% range.

Gonna go do legs in an hour or so.

Might be time for some pics soon by the sounds.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 04:13:07 PM
11km at 5:37 pace this morning.  Had a binge of Ben and Jerrys and Krispy Kreme last night and getting up and running within 10 hours of eating all that shit was the worst move ever.  Almost had to stop on the run a couple of times to vomit, seriously lol.  Definitely slowed me down though for sure.  Still losing weight though which is concerning, not sure how to combat it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
11km at 5:37 pace this morning.  Had a binge of Ben and Jerrys and Krispy Kreme last night and getting up and running within 10 hours of eating all that shit was the worst move ever.  Almost had to stop on the run a couple of times to vomit, seriously lol.  Definitely slowed me down though for sure.  Still losing weight though which is concerning, not sure how to combat it.

You could start by stop running. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 06:42:46 PM
11km at 5:37 pace this morning.  Had a binge of Ben and Jerrys and Krispy Kreme last night and getting up and running within 10 hours of eating all that shit was the worst move ever.  Almost had to stop on the run a couple of times to vomit, seriously lol.  Definitely slowed me down though for sure.  Still losing weight though which is concerning, not sure how to combat it.

You could start by stop running. :lol

I asked for that.  :lol

One day mate when we meet I'll take you for a run, will be glorious! :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2021, 06:50:50 PM
11km at 5:37 pace this morning.  Had a binge of Ben and Jerrys and Krispy Kreme last night and getting up and running within 10 hours of eating all that shit was the worst move ever.  Almost had to stop on the run a couple of times to vomit, seriously lol.  Definitely slowed me down though for sure.  Still losing weight though which is concerning, not sure how to combat it.

You could start by stop running. :lol

I asked for that.  :lol

One day mate when we meet I'll take you for a run, will be glorious! :)

You can jog along side my car! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 06, 2021, 06:58:50 PM
Ughhh. Hit something on my ride today. So now 2/3 bikes are in the shop. Sad to say, but i might end up back on my indoor bike for a while.

That fuckin blows!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 07:12:50 PM
11km at 5:37 pace this morning.  Had a binge of Ben and Jerrys and Krispy Kreme last night and getting up and running within 10 hours of eating all that shit was the worst move ever.  Almost had to stop on the run a couple of times to vomit, seriously lol.  Definitely slowed me down though for sure.  Still losing weight though which is concerning, not sure how to combat it.

You could start by stop running. :lol

I asked for that.  :lol

One day mate when we meet I'll take you for a run, will be glorious! :)

You can jog along side my car! :lol

 :lol Sounds like fun!

I can be Jerry Seinfeld and you can be Izzy Mandelbaum. (Chad will get this, I know you won't)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 07:17:48 PM
Exactly!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2021, 04:45:53 AM
IT'S GO TIME!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 08, 2021, 09:23:27 AM
Frustration rant:

I'm an idiot who stacked arm and leg exercises together (i.e. curls with deadlift during the 'rest' period) on the heels of a string of days mountain biking which devastates the forearms. Now I've been dealing with a forearm strain for the last 2 weeks that hurts so much I can't even make a hard fist. Lifting a weight is absolutely out of the question at this point. I've been nearly completely resting it for the past week, and there's improvement; but not being able to do any resistance training is really starting to wear on me. Completely my fault, which is making this worse.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
Frustration rant:

I'm an idiot who stacked arm and leg exercises together (i.e. curls with deadlift during the 'rest' period) on the heels of a string of days mountain biking which devastates the forearms. Now I've been dealing with a forearm strain for the last 2 weeks that hurts so much I can't even make a hard fist. Lifting a weight is absolutely out of the question at this point. I've been nearly completely resting it for the past week, and there's improvement; but not being able to do any resistance training is really starting to wear on me. Completely my fault, which is making this worse.

Dude, I was dealing with a brachioradialois strain/pain for like 6 months in my left arm.  I couldn't do more than 8-10 pullups before the pain was brutal; one time, doing DB OHP, I swear to god I thought my forearm was gonna snap it hurt so much.  Between constant stretching, doing a proper warmup on any day where my forearms are going to be taxed, and taking Cavaliere's anti-inflammatory supplements (which are expensive af), it's almost gone.  Not sure where your forearm pain is precisely, but I know that it ain't no fun.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2021, 10:26:35 PM
Frustration rant:

I'm an idiot who stacked arm and leg exercises together (i.e. curls with deadlift during the 'rest' period) on the heels of a string of days mountain biking which devastates the forearms. Now I've been dealing with a forearm strain for the last 2 weeks that hurts so much I can't even make a hard fist. Lifting a weight is absolutely out of the question at this point. I've been nearly completely resting it for the past week, and there's improvement; but not being able to do any resistance training is really starting to wear on me. Completely my fault, which is making this worse.

That's frustrating mate. I always find trigger pointing to be very useful when it comes to most thing but especially arms where stretching is a bit harder.  make sure you rest it enough mate, and don't go in early and potentially make it worse or prolong your recovery.

That's brutal AF though, curls during rest periods inbetween deadies, oof!  Sounds like my kind of workout.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2021, 10:27:21 PM
Frustration rant:

I'm an idiot who stacked arm and leg exercises together (i.e. curls with deadlift during the 'rest' period) on the heels of a string of days mountain biking which devastates the forearms. Now I've been dealing with a forearm strain for the last 2 weeks that hurts so much I can't even make a hard fist. Lifting a weight is absolutely out of the question at this point. I've been nearly completely resting it for the past week, and there's improvement; but not being able to do any resistance training is really starting to wear on me. Completely my fault, which is making this worse.

Dude, I was dealing with a brachioradialois strain/pain for like 6 months in my left arm.  I couldn't do more than 8-10 pullups before the pain was brutal; one time, doing DB OHP, I swear to god I thought my forearm was gonna snap it hurt so much.  Between constant stretching, doing a proper warmup on any day where my forearms are going to be taxed, and taking Cavaliere's anti-inflammatory supplements (which are expensive af), it's almost gone.  Not sure where your forearm pain is precisely, but I know that it ain't no fun.

Tell me more.  What's in it that makes it so expensive?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2021, 08:16:57 AM
Frustration rant:

I'm an idiot who stacked arm and leg exercises together (i.e. curls with deadlift during the 'rest' period) on the heels of a string of days mountain biking which devastates the forearms. Now I've been dealing with a forearm strain for the last 2 weeks that hurts so much I can't even make a hard fist. Lifting a weight is absolutely out of the question at this point. I've been nearly completely resting it for the past week, and there's improvement; but not being able to do any resistance training is really starting to wear on me. Completely my fault, which is making this worse.

Dude, I was dealing with a brachioradialois strain/pain for like 6 months in my left arm.  I couldn't do more than 8-10 pullups before the pain was brutal; one time, doing DB OHP, I swear to god I thought my forearm was gonna snap it hurt so much.  Between constant stretching, doing a proper warmup on any day where my forearms are going to be taxed, and taking Cavaliere's anti-inflammatory supplements (which are expensive af), it's almost gone.  Not sure where your forearm pain is precisely, but I know that it ain't no fun.

Tell me more.  What's in it that makes it so expensive?

I dunno, but they are doing a good job for both me and mrs.jingle (she's got bad back and hip issues).  They're $100USD for a 3-month supply.  https://athleanx.com/athleanrx/mechan-x
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2021, 03:25:27 PM
Frustration rant:

I'm an idiot who stacked arm and leg exercises together (i.e. curls with deadlift during the 'rest' period) on the heels of a string of days mountain biking which devastates the forearms. Now I've been dealing with a forearm strain for the last 2 weeks that hurts so much I can't even make a hard fist. Lifting a weight is absolutely out of the question at this point. I've been nearly completely resting it for the past week, and there's improvement; but not being able to do any resistance training is really starting to wear on me. Completely my fault, which is making this worse.

Dude, I was dealing with a brachioradialois strain/pain for like 6 months in my left arm.  I couldn't do more than 8-10 pullups before the pain was brutal; one time, doing DB OHP, I swear to god I thought my forearm was gonna snap it hurt so much.  Between constant stretching, doing a proper warmup on any day where my forearms are going to be taxed, and taking Cavaliere's anti-inflammatory supplements (which are expensive af), it's almost gone.  Not sure where your forearm pain is precisely, but I know that it ain't no fun.

Tell me more.  What's in it that makes it so expensive?

I dunno, but they are doing a good job for both me and mrs.jingle (she's got bad back and hip issues).  They're $100USD for a 3-month supply.  https://athleanx.com/athleanrx/mechan-x

That's not that bad when you look at normal supplements and vitmains I guess, comparing over here anyway.  Looks like a glucosamine supplement but has a few extras I've never heard of.  Great that they are working.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 15, 2021, 08:58:10 PM
Kade, how's the body feeling after 16 days straight in excess of 10km?

When i was 18 (and indestructible, of course) i used to run 10km on the treadmill 5 days a week. Every day, and outside, is a touch mind boggling to me
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2021, 10:21:51 PM
Kade, how's the body feeling after 16 days straight in excess of 10km?

When i was 18 (and indestructible, of course) i used to run 10km on the treadmill 5 days a week. Every day, and outside, is a touch mind boggling to me

You would see by my time today that I've hit a wall, big time.  Have been travelling pretty okay and even yesterday I did an 11km at a 5:26 pace and felt alright.  Through the day is tough but it's been fine considering.  Today though, I'm just about broken, I physically couldn't push myself any faster today, my legs are screaming.  I was quite confident on the whole thing even yesterday, but not sure what happened today.

Yeah, I've missed the treadmill and I've always found running outside so much harder.  Mentally, I'm getting tested and really have to dig deep to keep positive and push on.  I'm loving the runs in the morning though and can see myself still doing it after this month, but probably not the volume.  The inclines around home here get to me, that's a big thing.  My average run is 110m elevation gain, so don't know what that really means and have nothing to compare it to.  My Sunday runs are pretty much flat and a lot easier on the legs, and enjoyable.

More stretching and rolling is needed.  By the time I get back home in the morning I have to get ready for work.  After gym in the evening (which is suffering badly now mind you) I go home, make dinner and do a little bit but by then I'm ready just to sleep.  I also know I have to get to bed by 9 just to try and get up by 6 to get going.  It's tough slogging mate.  Tougher than the swimming challenge I did by a long long way.  172km in though, so making good ground with some km's up the sleeve.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 15, 2021, 10:54:24 PM
I also neglect my stretching. I'm trying to get better, but, like you, I'm usually exhausted and in bed by 9pm so I can have some semblance of sleep before getting up anywhere from 4-6 (depending on how well the youngest kid sleeps).

I'm not surprised to hear the challenge has been harder than the swimming challenge. 300 is massive. I found that "ice" baths really help when my cycling volume ramps up. I just use the coldest my tap water will run for a 12 minute soak (so not a true ice bath). Not sure if it's all psychological, but it eases the soreness for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2021, 11:10:00 PM
I also neglect my stretching. I'm trying to get better, but, like you, I'm usually exhausted and in bed by 9pm so I can have some semblance of sleep before getting up anywhere from 4-6 (depending on how well the youngest kid sleeps).

I'm not surprised to hear the challenge has been harder than the swimming challenge. 300 is massive. I found that "ice" baths really help when my cycling volume ramps up. I just use the coldest my tap water will run for a 12 minute soak (so not a true ice bath). Not sure if it's all psychological, but it eases the soreness for me.

I don't I realised how much 300 in a month was, regardless of the simple math.  I take cold showers sometimes afterwards but it's been around 7 degrees C the last week so that makes it hard to get in a cold shower.  I've felt benefits from cold showers and had them all tbrough summer.  I went from about September to March with all cold showers, not a single hot one.  How people do them regularly in winter is a bit baffling to me, and I'd say I'm relatively tough.

I'm hoping though just some added stretching and rolling should help with what I felt this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2021, 03:59:57 PM
Bounced back today with a 10km at a 5:21 average pace.  That's more like it.  That's my fastest 10km weekday run since starting I believe.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 16, 2021, 04:10:05 PM
Bounced back today with a 10km at a 5:21 average pace.  That's more like it.  That's my fastest 10km weekday run since starting I believe.

Fantastic!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2021, 04:14:10 PM
Bounced back today with a 10km at a 5:21 average pace.  That's more like it.  That's my fastest 10km weekday run since starting I believe.

Fantastic!

Thanks Chad.  I think so, but my legs disagree.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2021, 05:40:52 AM
Accomplished a massive PB today that I never thought I'd be able to do.  A 10km run at a 4:58 per km average.  Fucking stoked.  Never ever did I think I'd get under a 5 minute average.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2021, 05:50:04 AM
Accomplished a massive PB today that I never thought I'd be able to do.  A 10km run at a 4:58 per km average.  Fucking stoked.  Never ever did I think I'd get under a 5 minute average.

Kade this morning ...

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 20, 2021, 07:29:22 AM
Accomplished a massive PB today that I never thought I'd be able to do.  A 10km run at a 4:58 per km average.  Fucking stoked.  Never ever did I think I'd get under a 5 minute average.

And on day 20 in a row, no less!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2021, 03:29:43 PM
Cheers lads.

This morning was another 10km but 5:41 pace. Came crashing down but that's expected and probably should have had a morning off.  I didn't sleep that well last night as I was so sore physically.  Crazy.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 20, 2021, 07:17:40 PM
Cheers lads.

This morning was another 10km but 5:41 pace. Came crashing down but that's expected and probably should have had a morning off.  I didn't sleep that well last night as I was so sore physically.  Crazy.
Are you planning to take a rest day? You've got to be ahead enough for one, i imagine
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2021, 09:33:48 PM
Cheers lads.

This morning was another 10km but 5:41 pace. Came crashing down but that's expected and probably should have had a morning off.  I didn't sleep that well last night as I was so sore physically.  Crazy.
Are you planning to take a rest day? You've got to be ahead enough for one, i imagine

Yeah, I have a day that I can bank and still be a couple if days ahead.  Part of me knows I should, the other half would like to see how far past 300 I can go.  I'm stupid I tell ya.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2021, 05:03:01 AM
I took the weekend off from working out.  Assembled a 10x12 gazeebo on Saturday that was pretty much an all day endeavour, so while not a formal lifting workout, I suppose I was burning plenty of calories.  Yesterday was Father's Day, so I just bailed.  Definitely was in a caloric surplus yesterday with a massive T-bone steak, potatoes and four flavours of ice cream as my dinner.

Totally worthy it.

Back and Bis in an hour or so.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2021, 05:40:52 AM
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/nate-breaks-31-year-world-record-for-1-5-million-push-ups-all-for-charity/

 :omg: 4000 pushups per day  :omg:

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2021, 11:51:01 PM
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/nate-breaks-31-year-world-record-for-1-5-million-push-ups-all-for-charity/

 :omg: 4000 pushups per day  :omg:

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Makes my little pushup challenge look pretty damn pissweak!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2021, 11:53:01 PM
245km completed of this damn running June challenge, holy hell am I fucked today.  Can hardly communicate here at work I'm literally wiped out.  Could fall asleep at the drop of a hat.  Still putting in decent weight sessions in the evening but damn, I'm breaking down.  How some of these people have done hundreds and hundreds of kms is beyond me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 23, 2021, 05:01:41 AM
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/nate-breaks-31-year-world-record-for-1-5-million-push-ups-all-for-charity/

 :omg: 4000 pushups per day  :omg:

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/G5JoAjEBtfoTm/giphy.gif)

Makes my little pushup challenge look pretty damn pissweak!  :lol

Right... 30 minutes or so to do 500 pushups literally means 4 hours to do 4000 - and that's assuming no fatigue.  I mean, I did 400 in 26 minutes, but could barely do 10 at a time by that point.  How anyone could do 4000/day and it not essentially be a full-time job is beyond comprehension.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2021, 04:09:22 PM
Who could even verify that anyway?  Did he film every single pushup, or do you just take him on his word?  :lol  Not implying that he would lie, but that seems really over the top.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2021, 04:20:05 PM
I cut my grass today!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2021, 04:23:33 PM
I cut my grass today!!!

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 23, 2021, 07:42:32 PM
Who could even verify that anyway?  Did he film every single pushup, or do you just take him on his word?  :lol  Not implying that he would lie, but that seems really over the top.

I think that’s what was stated in the article.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2021, 07:49:55 PM
Who could even verify that anyway?  Did he film every single pushup, or do you just take him on his word?  :lol  Not implying that he would lie, but that seems really over the top.

I think that’s what was stated in the article.

Probably should read the whole thing next time.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2021, 04:22:38 AM
Who could even verify that anyway?  Did he film every single pushup, or do you just take him on his word?  :lol  Not implying that he would lie, but that seems really over the top.

I think that’s what was stated in the article.

Probably should read the whole thing next time.  :lol

Probably ...

Quote
In order to claim a new Guinness World Record—ousting the current titleholder after an almost 32-year run—Carroll has been diligently documenting his accomplishments both in a logbook and with time-lapse video throughout his year-long odyssey.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2021, 05:07:35 AM
Ok, I should not probably, but definitely read the whole article before running my mouth.  Happy?  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2021, 05:19:40 AM
Ok, I should not probably, but definitely read the whole article before running my mouth.  Happy?  ;D

Just razzin ya pal!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2021, 01:06:23 AM
Ok, I should not probably, but definitely read the whole article before running my mouth.  Happy?  ;D

Just razzin ya pal!

Motherfucker!  I'm gonna go do some pushups!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2021, 03:57:22 AM
So 19km's to go in 3 days.  My body is crying at me truthfully.  I am completely spent.  Both backs of the bottom of my calves are are on fire and I can hardly walk.

Yesterday morning I was 8.5km in and my phone rang and it was one of my workers.  I didn't stop as I was only around 2.5km from home and would call back.  She literally rang my phone again.  I feared what was wrong so stopped at 9km.  It was fortunately something minor but totally pissed me off I had to stop.  I had stopped for about 2 minutes then recorded the last 2km which was close to 5 minutes a km.  That arvo the backs of my legs were fucked.  Obviously the 2 minute stop then an almost 2km sprint shocked both my legs and it hurts to walk both sides.

Terrible night last night and I think I got some minor food poisoning.  I really should have rested today but ran through the pain of my legs while trying not to shit myself or vomit and managed 5km at 4.59km pace.  I was fucked afterwards and regretted it right away as my Achilles/calves are so bad.  This has almost broken me but have 3 days to do 19km so lots of rolling and stretching and hope they somewhat pull up ok in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on June 27, 2021, 04:24:17 AM
Yesterday morning I was 8.5km in and my phone rang and it was one of my workers.  I didn't stop as I was only around 2.5km from home and would call back.  She literally rang my phone again.  I feared what was wrong so stopped at 9km.  It was fortunately something minor but totally pissed me off I had to stop.  I had stopped for about 2 minutes then recorded the last 2km which was close to 5 minutes a km.  That arvo the backs of my legs were fucked.  Obviously the 2 minute stop then an almost 2km sprint shocked both my legs and it hurts to walk both sides.

You don't run with wireless headphones? I ran half a year without them, then bought a pair and it is indeed much more fun running while listening to music/podcasts. Convenient for answering calls too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2021, 04:27:24 AM
Yesterday morning I was 8.5km in and my phone rang and it was one of my workers.  I didn't stop as I was only around 2.5km from home and would call back.  She literally rang my phone again.  I feared what was wrong so stopped at 9km.  It was fortunately something minor but totally pissed me off I had to stop.  I had stopped for about 2 minutes then recorded the last 2km which was close to 5 minutes a km.  That arvo the backs of my legs were fucked.  Obviously the 2 minute stop then an almost 2km sprint shocked both my legs and it hurts to walk both sides.

You don't run with wireless headphones? I ran half a year without them, then bought a pair and it is indeed much more fun running while listening to music/podcasts. Also convenient to answer calls too.

Nah mate.  I never use headphones for anything.  I wouldn't feel safe out road running without hearing what's going on around me.  I just run with phone in hand with some music playing from the phone.

Don't think I could talk on the phone running either truthfully lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: Evermind on June 27, 2021, 04:31:32 AM
I just run with phone in hand with some music playing from the phone.

Do you also blast the music from your car for everyone to hear while driving? :biggrin:

Actually I probably wouldn't use headphones while running in the city either, it's just I live near a huge park so it's less of a problem here.

Don't think I could talk on the phone running either truthfully lol.

Yeah, with your time per km you probably wouldn't. :lol Although I managed a few calls with 5:20 per km, mostly it was just some spam and internet companies so the calls lasted for 10 seconds while I told them to fuck off.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2021, 04:47:44 AM
I just run with phone in hand with some music playing from the phone.

Do you also blast the music from your car for everyone to hear while driving? :biggrin:

Actually I probably wouldn't use headphones while running in the city either, it's just I live near a huge park so it's less of a problem here.

Don't think I could talk on the phone running either truthfully lol.

Yeah, with your time per km you probably wouldn't. :lol Although I managed a few calls with 5:20 per km, mostly it was just some spam and internet companies so the calls lasted for 10 seconds while I told them to fuck off.

Ha!  I need a few of those, might fire you up to go a bit faster.

Yeah, I've gotten a few weird looks if there are people around running with some Agalloch or Edge of Sanity going, but it's not that loud, and I run around the people I do see and generally stay out of everyone's way.  I'll go on the road so the people using the footpath still have the whole path to themselves.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 27, 2021, 04:48:54 AM
Damn Kade... hope you don't do too much damage to yourself.  Power through mate, but then you better damn well recover!

Had to take a couple days off, having gotten my 2nd Covid vaccine shot on Thursday.  Was pretty low-key on Friday, and yesterday was spent working on a project in our storage room which has become the workspace for jingle.son.  Took virtually all day, but was good to get it done, and now I can get back to working out today

Bough an EZ curl bar, and some more weight plates (rubber coated ones, which will make loading/unloading the plates a little quieter) last week.  Looking forward to using 'em this morning.  Chest and tris this morning; back and traps tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2021, 05:06:26 AM
Damn Kade... hope you don't do too much damage to yourself.  Power through mate, but then you better damn well recover!

Had to take a couple days off, having gotten my 2nd Covid vaccine shot on Thursday.  Was pretty low-key on Friday, and yesterday was spent working on a project in our storage room which has become the workspace for jingle.son.  Took virtually all day, but was good to get it done, and now I can get back to working out today

Bough an EZ curl bar, and some more weight plates (rubber coated ones, which will make loading/unloading the plates a little quieter) last week.  Looking forward to using 'em this morning.  Chest and tris this morning; back and traps tonight.

Thanks mate.  I'll be sweet.  It's good to see how far you can push yourself sometimes.

Those rubber weights are the shit.  Much more preferable for my liking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 27, 2021, 05:33:12 AM
At first I thought you were implying they were shit!  As soon as the 'new' smell wears off (as well as the oily residue of the coating), I'm really gonna be annoyed that I've got 300lbs of cast-iron plates.  I got a pair of 35s and 25s for the rubber coated ones.  Might gradually add (ie, replace) the cast iron ones.  But at $2.25/lb, it's gonna add up.  I might see if they'll buy back / swap my cast iron ones - they normally sell the 300lb set of rubber plates for $700.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2021, 02:27:33 PM
At first I thought you were implying they were shit!  As soon as the 'new' smell wears off (as well as the oily residue of the coating), I'm really gonna be annoyed that I've got 300lbs of cast-iron plates.  I got a pair of 35s and 25s for the rubber coated ones.  Might gradually add (ie, replace) the cast iron ones.  But at $2.25/lb, it's gonna add up.  I might see if they'll buy back / swap my cast iron ones - they normally sell the 300lb set of rubber plates for $700.

No, I love them.  Much better than the metal ones.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2021, 04:07:49 PM
Damn, my right heel area is fucked.  Hurts to walk and have a bit of a limp.  Hmmm......took This morning off unfortunately.  Hopefully there's a quick improvement by tomorrow....... :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 30, 2021, 05:42:27 AM
Well done Kade! 300km in a month is ridiculous. Take some well deserved time off from running lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2021, 05:50:52 AM
Thanks Rich.  My right foot is buggered and you can see by my pace the last 2 days, well below par.  Hurts to walk.  Thinking maybe plantar fasciitis maybe.  But maybe just overuse.  Few days off running I need.  Want to keep it up but my aim is to improve time so rest is needed.

Must admit my body is hurting but glad I got it done, just.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2021, 06:05:14 AM
Well done mate.  Now rest and heal up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on June 30, 2021, 06:42:06 AM
Thanks Rich.  My right foot is buggered and you can see by my pace the last 2 days, well below par.  Hurts to walk.  Thinking maybe plantar fasciitis maybe.  But maybe just overuse.  Few days off running I need.  Want to keep it up but my aim is to improve time so rest is needed.

Must admit my body is hurting but glad I got it done, just.

I thought plantar fasciitis was due to over use? Either way, sounds like you need a few no-run days!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2021, 02:39:36 PM
Well done mate.  Now rest and heal up.

Thanks dude.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
Thanks Rich.  My right foot is buggered and you can see by my pace the last 2 days, well below par.  Hurts to walk.  Thinking maybe plantar fasciitis maybe.  But maybe just overuse.  Few days off running I need.  Want to keep it up but my aim is to improve time so rest is needed.

Must admit my body is hurting but glad I got it done, just.

I thought plantar fasciitis was due to over use? Either way, sounds like you need a few no-run days!

300km in 30 days isn't over use?  Plus 5 weight sessions a week and my job is moderately active.  Guess I better get back into it then.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: chknptpie on June 30, 2021, 08:19:06 PM
Thanks Rich.  My right foot is buggered and you can see by my pace the last 2 days, well below par.  Hurts to walk.  Thinking maybe plantar fasciitis maybe.  But maybe just overuse.  Few days off running I need.  Want to keep it up but my aim is to improve time so rest is needed.

Must admit my body is hurting but glad I got it done, just.

I thought plantar fasciitis was due to over use? Either way, sounds like you need a few no-run days!

300km in 30 days isn't over use?  Plus 5 weight sessions a week and my job is moderately active.  Guess I better get back into it then.

Huh? Of course 300km in 30 days is overuse. My comment was in reference to you saying its PF or maybe overuse. I thought they were essentially related but the phrasing of your sentence makes it seems like they aren't.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2021, 12:36:31 AM
Thanks Rich.  My right foot is buggered and you can see by my pace the last 2 days, well below par.  Hurts to walk.  Thinking maybe plantar fasciitis maybe.  But maybe just overuse.  Few days off running I need.  Want to keep it up but my aim is to improve time so rest is needed.

Must admit my body is hurting but glad I got it done, just.

I thought plantar fasciitis was due to over use? Either way, sounds like you need a few no-run days!

300km in 30 days isn't over use?  Plus 5 weight sessions a week and my job is moderately active.  Guess I better get back into it then.

Huh? Of course 300km in 30 days is overuse. My comment was in reference to you saying its PF or maybe overuse. I thought they were essentially related but the phrasing of your sentence makes it seems like they aren't.

Oh, my apologies.  yeah, I took your comment wrong, my fault.  I haven't done a lot of reading, just a quick google search so not sure if there are other causes, but yeah, reading back, my comment does contradict itself I guess.  There was no sudden point I felt anything wrong so overuse is what I've boiled it down to.  A couple of days off and I'll be sweet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. nutrition accountability 2021
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2021, 04:44:27 AM
I developed a case of PF about a year ago, simply by walking barefoot (or just socks) around the house all the time.  As soon as I started wearing a pair of shoes on a regular basis, it cleared it right up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on July 01, 2021, 06:47:27 AM
You know you're old when you have to wear house shoes to avoid injury lol Love you
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2021, 09:05:50 AM
You know you're old when you have to wear house shoes to avoid injury lol Love you

Rite!?!?

It’s probably genetic, as my mother has worn prescription sandals for a couple of decades.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2021, 05:24:04 AM
New thread title is ironic.  I wrenched my back doing deadlifts yesterday.  Piss me off, because I did a lot of stretching and warmup, including rolling my back which I haven't done in quite a while.  I was on my 2nd working set at 263lbs and felt it instantly.  At least I was smart enough to stop straight away.  Still kept working out doing lat work and biceps, but my lower back is a bit of a mess.  I just spent 20 minutes stretching it out and trying to keep it loose.  I'm hopeful this is a short term thing, and it'll work itself out over the next few days.

At least it's not totally debilitating like when I thru my back out in 2014 - that was 5-6 weeks of recovery.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2021, 06:42:12 AM
New thread title is ironic.  I wrenched my back doing deadlifts yesterday.  Piss me off, because I did a lot of stretching and warmup, including rolling my back which I haven't done in quite a while.  I was on my 2nd working set at 263lbs and felt it instantly.  At least I was smart enough to stop straight away.  Still kept working out doing lat work and biceps, but my lower back is a bit of a mess.  I just spent 20 minutes stretching it out and trying to keep it loose.  I'm hopeful this is a short term thing, and it'll work itself out over the next few days.

At least it's not totally debilitating like when I thru my back out in 2014 - that was 5-6 weeks of recovery.

Ouch mate.  Hopefully it's just a jar or something.  It's the worst feeling when you feel something instantly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2021, 07:21:27 AM
Agreed.  I just spent 15 minutes in the hot tub with the "super duper" jets (literally, that's what the Arctic Spas calls this one set of jets - SDS / Super-Duper System).  Pretty sure I'll be back to normal in a few days or so.  Just pissed, cuz I'm on a roll with my workouts, and being off for 10 days have a bunch of things I want to do - which are fairly low-key, so I'll still be able to do them ... just with a bit of discomort.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2021, 09:56:42 PM
Agreed.  I just spent 15 minutes in the hot tub with the "super duper" jets (literally, that's what the Arctic Spas calls this one set of jets - SDS / Super-Duper System).  Pretty sure I'll be back to normal in a few days or so.  Just pissed, cuz I'm on a roll with my workouts, and being off for 10 days have a bunch of things I want to do - which are fairly low-key, so I'll still be able to do them ... just with a bit of discomort.  >:(

They seem to happen at the most inconvenient times.  Not that there is a convenient time.

My right foot is still stuffed.  Although I went for a 10km run yesterday.  It was getting better but pushed myself.  The first few steps were excruciating but I had psyched myself up so ran through the pain.  5.35 pace surprisingly. 

I think it feels like torn ligaments or something around my heel, but just guessing.  Theres a sick part of me that actually enjoys pushing thrpugh the pain.  I think I'm a bit sadistic.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 05, 2021, 04:46:11 AM
You must be!  I'd tell you to read the thread title (and do it!), but you probably won't.   :lol

Fortunately, with some stretching, hot tub jets, and muscle/back pain pills, I'm good to go.  Just a dull ache in my back if I'm stationary for too long (sitting/sleeping).  Got a solid chest workout in last night; tris and forearms shortly.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2021, 05:19:18 AM
You must be!  I'd tell you to read the thread title (and do it!), but you probably won't.   :lol

Fortunately, with some stretching, hot tub jets, and muscle/back pain pills, I'm good to go.  Just a dull ache in my back if I'm stationary for too long (sitting/sleeping).  Got a solid chest workout in last night; tris and forearms shortly.

Nice outcome.

Yeah, concentrating on weights for the week and hopefully back out running on the weekend.  Did a massive chest and tri workout myself tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on July 13, 2021, 10:45:04 AM
I just want to say, screw this weather. Been like that for over a week and I would like some rain right now please. 

(https://i.imgur.com/3Dzy4XF.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 13, 2021, 10:51:23 AM
I just want to say, screw this weather. Been like that for over a week and I would like some rain right now please. 

(https://i.imgur.com/3Dzy4XF.jpg)

We just went through that here, except 5 or 6 degrees warmer. It was brutal. Just about everyday was a new record for daytime high and overnight temps. Not quite as bad as our neighbors one province over where they hit 47C multiple times, but 39 in the shade was plenty hot enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 13, 2021, 10:52:25 AM
Glad to see you're a nut like me, and still went exercising in the heat lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on July 13, 2021, 10:54:23 AM
We just went through that here, except 5 or 6 degrees warmer. It was brutal. Just about everyday was a new record for daytime high and overnight temps. Not quite as bad as our neighbors one province over where they hit 47C multiple times, but 39 in the shade was plenty hot enough.

Holy shit. Yeah well I hope it doesn't get 5 or 6 degrees warmer here. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 13, 2021, 10:56:30 AM
Meanwhile in Russia.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2021, 03:28:12 PM
33 degrees is typical summer weather here too.  I'd much rather run in that than the mornings where it's like 5 degrees.  Ruslan, dunno how you run when it's way colder than that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
I haven't run for a week now.  That 300km challenge caught up with me and my right leg is still recovering.  My heel is improving but the tightness of everything from my hip down to my feet is insanely tight.  I think the heel pain may not be from injury but over tightness of everything else.  Should be back into it by the weekend but it's been depressing not being able to run.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on July 14, 2021, 11:53:03 AM
33 degrees is typical summer weather here too.  I'd much rather run in that than the mornings where it's like 5 degrees.  Ruslan, dunno how you run when it's way colder than that.

Yeah I'd prefer anything from +10°C to -10°C to this.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2021, 04:52:57 AM
First run in 2 weeks today and the foot handled it pretty well.  8km at an 5:24 average so happy with that.  Hopefully tomorrow the aftermath isn't too bad.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2021, 05:19:19 AM
First run in 2 weeks today and the foot handled it pretty well.  8km at an 5:24 average so happy with that.  Hopefully tomorrow the aftermath isn't too bad.

Good stuff mate.  Luckily my back issues from 2 weeks ago were gone after a couple of days of stretching and hot-tub soaking.  I did buy a weight belt though for those heavy deadlifts, squats, and such.  Also ended up swapping out my cast-iron plate for rubber ones - the store gave me a pretty good deal.  Only rub is that they are slightly wider, so I can't fit quite as many plates on a bar - though, I doubt I'll be getting up to anything that would necessitate 400lbs anytime soon.

Gains have been continuing nicely.  Starting to see more veins pop out - getting close to having that bicep vein full-time.

Shoulders this morning, quads tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2021, 06:17:20 AM
First run in 2 weeks today and the foot handled it pretty well.  8km at an 5:24 average so happy with that.  Hopefully tomorrow the aftermath isn't too bad.

Good stuff mate.  Luckily my back issues from 2 weeks ago were gone after a couple of days of stretching and hot-tub soaking.  I did buy a weight belt though for those heavy deadlifts, squats, and such.  Also ended up swapping out my cast-iron plate for rubber ones - the store gave me a pretty good deal.  Only rub is that they are slightly wider, so I can't fit quite as many plates on a bar - though, I doubt I'll be getting up to anything that would necessitate 400lbs anytime soon.

Gains have been continuing nicely.  Starting to see more veins pop out - getting close to having that bicep vein full-time.

Shoulders this morning, quads tonight.

Sounds like you got a good routine going.  What about calories, are you tracking anything?  Eating a bit more for size or anything?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2021, 06:23:21 AM
First run in 2 weeks today and the foot handled it pretty well.  8km at an 5:24 average so happy with that.  Hopefully tomorrow the aftermath isn't too bad.

Good stuff mate.  Luckily my back issues from 2 weeks ago were gone after a couple of days of stretching and hot-tub soaking.  I did buy a weight belt though for those heavy deadlifts, squats, and such.  Also ended up swapping out my cast-iron plate for rubber ones - the store gave me a pretty good deal.  Only rub is that they are slightly wider, so I can't fit quite as many plates on a bar - though, I doubt I'll be getting up to anything that would necessitate 400lbs anytime soon.

Gains have been continuing nicely.  Starting to see more veins pop out - getting close to having that bicep vein full-time.

Shoulders this morning, quads tonight.

Sounds like you got a good routine going.  What about calories, are you tracking anything?  Eating a bit more for size or anything?

I'm shit at tracking.  I wish I could be more disciplined to track my total intake and macros.  I am eating a fair bit more than I normally would when I my primary goal was to shed BF.  Now that my goal is to add muscle, I'm working out 2x / day (for sorter periods, and am taking in more cals.  But, can't say exactly how much, as I'm 100% intuitive eater.  Just trying to keep my protein up as much as I can, and not have any unnecessary carbs/fats.  Example, last night's dinner was hot dogs for the family - I had 2 chicken sausages, but only 1 bun (ie, open-faced).  Minor stuff like that to keep my carbs in check.

That's the extent of my "plan" ... if ya can call it that :lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2021, 06:58:46 AM
I saw the thread title change, so I figured I'd pop in to say that I have rest and recovery down.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2021, 08:04:00 AM
I saw the thread title change, so I figured I'd pop in to say that I have rest and recovery down.  ;D

Clearly!  The thread title hasn't changed since July 1st  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2021, 08:11:36 AM
I saw the thread title change, so I figured I'd pop in to say that I have rest and recovery down.  ;D

Clearly!  The thread title hasn't changed since July 1st  :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2021, 03:04:15 PM
I saw the thread title change, so I figured I'd pop in to say that I have rest and recovery down.  ;D

And that's a very important part Tim.  Good to see you're not neglecting that.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2021, 03:06:01 PM
First run in 2 weeks today and the foot handled it pretty well.  8km at an 5:24 average so happy with that.  Hopefully tomorrow the aftermath isn't too bad.

Good stuff mate.  Luckily my back issues from 2 weeks ago were gone after a couple of days of stretching and hot-tub soaking.  I did buy a weight belt though for those heavy deadlifts, squats, and such.  Also ended up swapping out my cast-iron plate for rubber ones - the store gave me a pretty good deal.  Only rub is that they are slightly wider, so I can't fit quite as many plates on a bar - though, I doubt I'll be getting up to anything that would necessitate 400lbs anytime soon.

Gains have been continuing nicely.  Starting to see more veins pop out - getting close to having that bicep vein full-time.

Shoulders this morning, quads tonight.

Sounds like you got a good routine going.  What about calories, are you tracking anything?  Eating a bit more for size or anything?

I'm shit at tracking.  I wish I could be more disciplined to track my total intake and macros.  I am eating a fair bit more than I normally would when I my primary goal was to shed BF.  Now that my goal is to add muscle, I'm working out 2x / day (for sorter periods, and am taking in more cals.  But, can't say exactly how much, as I'm 100% intuitive eater.  Just trying to keep my protein up as much as I can, and not have any unnecessary carbs/fats.  Example, last night's dinner was hot dogs for the family - I had 2 chicken sausages, but only 1 bun (ie, open-faced).  Minor stuff like that to keep my carbs in check.

That's the extent of my "plan" ... if ya can call it that :lol.

Yeah, I'm pretty much like that too.  Seems to work well enough.  I can eyeball most things so can guess pretty close each day how many calories I'm taking in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Hyperplex on July 19, 2021, 12:02:56 PM
Haven't really posted in this thread, but figured I'd check in randomly. This morning's weigh-in has me down 60 pounds, so I think I'm heading in the right direction. Still have a ways to go but I do feel better.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 19, 2021, 01:31:52 PM
Haven't really posted in this thread, but figured I'd check in randomly. This morning's weigh-in has me down 60 pounds, so I think I'm heading in the right direction. Still have a ways to go but I do feel better.

Congrats! That's a significant amount of weight loss. What kind of strategy are you using vis a vis diet and/or exercise?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2021, 02:20:42 PM
Haven't really posted in this thread, but figured I'd check in randomly. This morning's weigh-in has me down 60 pounds, so I think I'm heading in the right direction. Still have a ways to go but I do feel better.

That's fucking awesome, Drew!  Good on ya.  What time period we talking about, since Friday, or since Bear was a baby?   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Hyperplex on July 19, 2021, 02:29:03 PM
That's fucking awesome, Drew!  Good on ya.  What time period we talking about, since Friday, or since Bear was a baby?   :lol

Honestly? April 22nd. I had a new doc appt and found out my old doc was basically ignoring a ton of shit and it pretty much scared me straight. I knew forever I needed to lose weight but had thought, erroneously I found out, that my actual issues were under control. They were not.

I basically simply took firm control of my diet and exercise. I was determined to make my own diet changes and continuing to prep meals with my own grocery shopping, otherwise I'd never be able to stick to it. I also subscribed to Noom for some of the coaching and mainly the calorie counting and tracking. It's made gigantic difference in knowing how much I'm putting into myself food-wise. Lots of fruits and vegetables, lots of lean protein, little to no carry out, and when we do eat out, making the best choices I can with the food being offered.

As for exercise, I invested in an under-desk elliptical and have it at my workstation. Thing is amazing. I am able to keep working and still get as much cardio in as I need or want. It eliminated by biggest concern, which was being to find the time to do everything I need to do during the day and still be able to work out. Now, when I'm working from home, which is now 3 days a week instead of 5, I can get the workout in while on the clock. It's made a big difference.

I should add, I have not been trying to lose weight this quickly. It has utterly shocked me how fast the pounds have fallen off, but I'm not starving myself or doing ridiculous amounts of cardio. It's how my body is responding to my changes. We went to the beach for a week, and I made a promise not to weigh myself or track my calories, but to still make better choices, both in dining out as well as what we bought for the condo. I managed to lose a pound and a half while on vacation. Blew my mind.

At this point, I'm just trying to keep it up and ride the high of the results. I've had to buy all new jeans and shorts, and more than few people have noticed the change.
It's also nice to have gone back to the doctor, have him fist bump me for good work, and then see that my blood work is fucking amazing now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
That's awesome to read mate.  Congrats, that's a massive accomplishment.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on July 19, 2021, 04:53:21 PM
Massive heatwave in the UK this week. Been in the sea A LOT. Combined with being busier at work - i'm hoping to shed a few lbs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2021, 06:10:12 PM
That's awesome to read mate.  Congrats, that's a massive accomplishment.

^ Yeah, totally. It’s funny how our body will react over the course of any given week. I’ve had weeks where I worked out hard, and was totally disciplined in my diet and .... nothing lost - or even weight gained. Then weeks where I was sloppy with my workouts and ate like crap .... and lost weight.

I just use the mirror as my barometer now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2021, 08:23:13 PM
Haven't really posted in this thread, but figured I'd check in randomly. This morning's weigh-in has me down 60 pounds, so I think I'm heading in the right direction. Still have a ways to go but I do feel better.

Holy shit, man, that's fucking awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on July 21, 2021, 06:54:14 AM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 21, 2021, 09:19:31 AM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Tricia....Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do. I wish I could pull that trip off....sounds like a blast.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 21, 2021, 09:28:07 AM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do
No doubt about it. It's orders of magnitude more fun than running on pavement. Brutally challenging though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on July 21, 2021, 12:53:44 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do
No doubt about it. It's orders of magnitude more fun than running on pavement. Brutally challenging though.
I'm hoping I get to run the longest loop during the day and the short loop at night. I'm most worried about being able to see where the heck I'm going! I'll be running with a headlamp and lit up vest thing, so hopefully that will help.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 21, 2021, 01:27:13 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do
No doubt about it. It's orders of magnitude more fun than running on pavement. Brutally challenging though.
I'm hoping I get to run the longest loop during the day and the short loop at night. I'm most worried about being able to see where the heck I'm going! I'll be running with a headlamp and lit up vest thing, so hopefully that will help.
As a veteran of the Canadian Death Race (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/ (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/)), I can tell you not to skimp on the headlight. It's well worth the investment for a reasonable lamp (minimum 100 lumens if you're doing an off-road race far from any street lights or other light sources). Even a flat trail with roots and rocks will bring you to a slow walk if you have a shitty light. It's just too hard to see obstacles with enough time to react.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2021, 02:55:56 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do
No doubt about it. It's orders of magnitude more fun than running on pavement. Brutally challenging though.
I'm hoping I get to run the longest loop during the day and the short loop at night. I'm most worried about being able to see where the heck I'm going! I'll be running with a headlamp and lit up vest thing, so hopefully that will help.
As a veteran of the Canadian Death Race (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/ (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/)), I can tell you not to skimp on the headlight. It's well worth the investment for a reasonable lamp (minimum 100 lumens if you're doing an off-road race far from any street lights or other light sources). Even a flat trail with roots and rocks will bring you to a slow walk if you have a shitty light. It's just too hard to see obstacles with enough time to react.

That looks awesome.  You've run this?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2021, 04:06:49 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Sorry, 15.2 miles over 2 days?  ???
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on July 21, 2021, 04:59:56 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Sorry, 15.2 miles over 2 days?  ???

Team of 8, each runner does each loop once. All 3 loops total 15.2 miles, but each loop is spaced hours apart. It's basically a relay race.
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/arizonatrail#course
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2021, 06:56:39 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Sorry, 15.2 miles over 2 days?  ???

Team of 8, each runner does each loop once. All 3 loops total 15.2 miles, but each loop is spaced hours apart. It's basically a relay race.
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/arizonatrail#course

Ah okay.  That's different.  Can see that being very competitive.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 21, 2021, 07:16:22 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do
No doubt about it. It's orders of magnitude more fun than running on pavement. Brutally challenging though.
I'm hoping I get to run the longest loop during the day and the short loop at night. I'm most worried about being able to see where the heck I'm going! I'll be running with a headlamp and lit up vest thing, so hopefully that will help.
As a veteran of the Canadian Death Race (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/ (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/)), I can tell you not to skimp on the headlight. It's well worth the investment for a reasonable lamp (minimum 100 lumens if you're doing an off-road race far from any street lights or other light sources). Even a flat trail with roots and rocks will bring you to a slow walk if you have a shitty light. It's just too hard to see obstacles with enough time to react.

That looks awesome.  You've run this?

I did the 125km relay twice, both times as a 3 man team. I did legs 1-3-5 one year for a 63km day, and just leg 4 (the longest at 38km) the other year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2021, 09:15:46 PM
Husband and I signed up for a Ragnar trail run in November. If anyone is interested in traveling to AZ, camping with a group of people and running 15.2mi over 2 days, let me know! We need a team of 8 lol Right now we have 3.

Trail Runs are so much fun!! I'll warn you though that once you start running trails that's all you'll want to do
No doubt about it. It's orders of magnitude more fun than running on pavement. Brutally challenging though.
I'm hoping I get to run the longest loop during the day and the short loop at night. I'm most worried about being able to see where the heck I'm going! I'll be running with a headlamp and lit up vest thing, so hopefully that will help.
As a veteran of the Canadian Death Race (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/ (https://www.sinistersports.ca/deathrace/)), I can tell you not to skimp on the headlight. It's well worth the investment for a reasonable lamp (minimum 100 lumens if you're doing an off-road race far from any street lights or other light sources). Even a flat trail with roots and rocks will bring you to a slow walk if you have a shitty light. It's just too hard to see obstacles with enough time to react.

That looks awesome.  You've run this?

I did the 125km relay twice, both times as a 3 man team. I did legs 1-3-5 one year for a 63km day, and just leg 4 (the longest at 38km) the other year.

  :eek

I forgot you mentioned you use to run but switched to riding due to injuries?  Am I remembering correctly?  No running at all for you anymore?

I really have to start breaking past the 15km mark for long runs.  Did a 20km last Xmas morning but apart from that those distances in those sorts of challenges is mind blowing to me.

2 weeks off really halted me.  Just been trying to get back into it with some short arvo tempo runs.  You lose fitness so quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 22, 2021, 06:35:18 AM
Correct. Bad hips forced me to drop running. I used to love endurance running, and usually ran 1-2 marathons per year
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2021, 06:42:47 AM
Correct. Bad hips forced me to drop running. I used to love endurance running, and usually ran 1-2 marathons per year

That's bloody unfortunate mate.  :-[

At least you found something else to fill the void.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2021, 04:38:38 AM
First 10km in a couple of weeks.  5:10 pace so pretty happy with that.  God damn though I don't know how I did this every day!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2021, 06:07:27 AM
Shoulders for me this morning, then I'm gonna take a 'recovery' work - just do some cardio and yoga.  I put a bit too much strain on my left forearm doing heavy deadlifts - though I was very careful with my back this time! - and have some pretty significant inner elbow pain.  Hopefully a week 'off' helps it a bit.  Think I should use my wrist wraps on the really heavy lifts for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2021, 02:44:53 PM
Whenever I have elbow pain, some trigger pointing around the areas like triceps and forearms always seem to help.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2021, 05:37:28 AM
Whenever I have elbow paid, some trigger pointing around the areas like triceps and forearms always seem to help.

Totally... it's 100% my forearm - a couple of instances where I was gripping the bar too much into my 2nd knuckles, when proper form is more into the palms.  As the lifts and loads get heavier, I gotta be more disciplined with form - across the board.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 31, 2021, 06:12:27 AM
Had a low-key 'recovery' week... couple sessions on the bike, a short 20-min HIIT, and yoga.  Yoga was interesting in that I hadn't done it in a few months, and breezed through it.  It's the p90x version of yoga, so there are a few segments that actually get pretty intense - right at the end, it does a sequence where you're standing on one leg for about 2 minutes straight doing four different poses.  For the first time ever, I was able to get thru that whole sequence without taking a brief rest/pause at some point.  There's also an ab-sequence, which (again for the first time ever) I breezed through that too.

Weigh in this morning was 175, and skin-fold calipers suggest somewhere around 10.5% BF.  Time to hit the weights again - I'd very much like to be mid-180s at that BF level.  Adding 10lbs of lean mass at my age is gonna take a bit of time though.  Back and bis later this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2021, 05:38:20 AM
I want to post something that I've discovered is neglected from most, but definitely myself.  After that running challenge I did in June, as I posted, my right ankle was pretty much, well, fucked.  I had a constant limp.  I thought it was planta fasciitis, and it may have been.  Anyway, 2 weeks off and did stretching and rolling during this time.  It came almost good and then I did a run on the Sunday and then a few km's on the treadmill each night during that week.  5km the next Saturday, and then did the 10km on the Sunday at a quicker 5:10 pace.

That was last Sunday, and I was back to square one and had overdone it once again.  After that run I was sore and that night I couldn't sleep as my whole leg was just aching.  That whole week, again limping and sharp searing pain each step I would take.  I couldn't even flex my calf to get a good stretch, it was just a tearing pain in my ankle.

Anyway, yesterday being Saturday, and going into lockdown, from lunch time, I spent the whole afternoon and night in front of the TV on the floor absolutely attacking my trigger points.  My hip flexor got the tennis ball treatment.  The IT band got the roller as did the hamstring and my calf simply got all of the above plus my elbow driving into it.

The more I attacked these points, especially the calf I could feel the muscle start to unwind.  I could then flex the ankle a little more getting the stretching sensation in the calf.  I pretty much did this off and on for like 9 hours.  Eventually, I could feel things releasing and by that night, the pain I've had in my ankle was all but gone.  Did a slow recovery 10km today (5:38 pace) but could notice a significant difference.  Will be interesting in the morning how it will be, but tonight, so far so good.

Basically, this part of fitness I neglect so much.  I've been doing it don't get me wrong, but not really doing it properly when it's needed.  It was amazing the difference.  What would have thought I had torn ligaments or something in my foot simply turned out to be over tightness.  Also, it's happened to me before, but if you have problems downstairs keeping things up, work on your hip flexors.  Overly tight hip flexors can cause issues.  Once they are released properly, you'll feel 18 again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 01, 2021, 05:57:37 AM
Yer gettin old, mate.  Welcome to the club.   :lol

Yeah, I neglect stretching at times too, and pay the price.  My left brachioradialis requires constant attention and has for at least 6 months.  As I mentioned a couple weeks back, my left inner elbow has some sharp pain - which (again) is really forearm tightness.  Hoping I can hammer out some pullups without too much pain this morning (I ended up skipping working out yesterday - weather was good yesterday so I did some shit around the yard, cuz it's pissing rain today).  Rolling is something I should do more regularly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2021, 05:59:31 AM
Yer gettin old, mate.  Welcome to the club.   :lol

Yeah, I neglect stretching at times too, and pay the price.  My left brachioradialis requires constant attention and has for at least 6 months.  As I mentioned a couple weeks back, my left inner elbow has some sharp pain - which (again) is really forearm tightness.  Hoping I can hammer out some pullups without too much pain this morning (I ended up skipping working out yesterday - weather was good yesterday so I did some shit around the yard, cuz it's pissing rain today).  Rolling is something I should do more regularly.

I asked for that one.  :lol

Yeah, it's amazing how tightness in some muscles can cause such significant issues, but can be relieved quite easily.

Yeah, rolling is very effective, but I find the tennis ball just as good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on August 01, 2021, 10:16:42 AM
Did a slow recovery 10km today (5:38 pace) but could notice a significant difference.

Slow, my ass. :lol Isn't this pace good enough to run a marathon under 4 hours?

The heat has subsided here and hopefully it'll stay this way. Ran 10km yesterday with 5:20 something pace, I think that was my best yet, 54:10 total time. It's crazy how much easier it is to run when it's not, like, 30°C in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2021, 03:26:19 PM
Did a slow recovery 10km today (5:38 pace) but could notice a significant difference.

Slow, my ass. :lol Isn't this pace good enough to run a marathon under 4 hours?

The heat has subsided here and hopefully it'll stay this way. Ran 10km yesterday with 5:20 something pace, I think that was my best yet, 54:10 total time. It's crazy how much easier it is to run when it's not, like, 30°C in the morning.

Haha, I think I've just sat around similar paces now for a while so want to try and get better again.  Anything over 5.30 pace I'm a bit disappointed with truthfully.  Honestly though, I have no idea what average is for my age or what my speeds sit in terms of average runners to more competent athletes.

5.20 is a great pace mate.  It's incredible the difference weather makes.  Yesterday we had 27 degrees outside and instantly felt it.  Middle of winter and it's been around 21=22 the last couple of months.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 07, 2021, 05:16:37 AM
Thursday I did calves.  I have one of two moves to go to - single standing calf raises (bodyweight only) being my usual go to.  I usually do a descending pyramid of 25-20-15-10-15 for a total of 75 reps on each leg.  Been doing this for years.

Friday morning I wake up with a LOT of tightness and pain in my foot.  No problem I figured, just some DOMS settling in.  Nope ... 2nd toe starts swelling up all day long.  Dr. Google tells me I have capsulitis - inflammation of ligaments in my second toe.  By the end of the day, all of my toes were swelling a little bit.  Took some advil, and iced it last night... swelling subsided a little bit.  Still hobbling around though.

Rest is really the only thing for it  >:(  I'll take it easy today, but am probably gonna have to work with bodyweight and/or seated movements for the next little while.  Hypertrophy training days I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 07, 2021, 06:13:34 AM
Thursday I did calves.  I have one of two moves to go to - single standing calf raises (bodyweight only) being my usual go to.  I usually do a descending pyramid of 25-20-15-10-15 for a total of 75 reps on each leg.  Been doing this for years.

Friday morning I wake up with a LOT of tightness and pain in my foot.  No problem I figured, just some DOMS settling in.  Nope ... 2nd toe starts swelling up all day long.  Dr. Google tells me I have capsulitis - inflammation of ligaments in my second toe.  By the end of the day, all of my toes were swelling a little bit.  Took some advil, and iced it last night... swelling subsided a little bit.  Still hobbling around though.

Rest is really the only thing for it  >:(  I'll take it easy today, but am probably gonna have to work with bodyweight and/or seated movements for the next little while.  Hypertrophy training days I guess.

Going back to my post from the other day mate, any chance your calves are just overtight?  Could stretching and maybe some deep trigger pointing do anything.  As I mentioned, that was my problem.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 07, 2021, 09:14:13 AM
Thursday I did calves.  I have one of two moves to go to - single standing calf raises (bodyweight only) being my usual go to.  I usually do a descending pyramid of 25-20-15-10-15 for a total of 75 reps on each leg.  Been doing this for years.

Friday morning I wake up with a LOT of tightness and pain in my foot.  No problem I figured, just some DOMS settling in.  Nope ... 2nd toe starts swelling up all day long.  Dr. Google tells me I have capsulitis - inflammation of ligaments in my second toe.  By the end of the day, all of my toes were swelling a little bit.  Took some advil, and iced it last night... swelling subsided a little bit.  Still hobbling around though.

Rest is really the only thing for it  >:(  I'll take it easy today, but am probably gonna have to work with bodyweight and/or seated movements for the next little while.  Hypertrophy training days I guess.

Going back to my post from the other day mate, any chance your calves are just overtight?  Could stretching and maybe some deep trigger pointing do anything.  As I mentioned, that was my problem.

That could be a contributor, for sure.  But my 2nd toe is a subtle shade of purple.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2021, 03:41:45 AM
Thursday I did calves.  I have one of two moves to go to - single standing calf raises (bodyweight only) being my usual go to.  I usually do a descending pyramid of 25-20-15-10-15 for a total of 75 reps on each leg.  Been doing this for years.

Friday morning I wake up with a LOT of tightness and pain in my foot.  No problem I figured, just some DOMS settling in.  Nope ... 2nd toe starts swelling up all day long.  Dr. Google tells me I have capsulitis - inflammation of ligaments in my second toe.  By the end of the day, all of my toes were swelling a little bit.  Took some advil, and iced it last night... swelling subsided a little bit.  Still hobbling around though.

Rest is really the only thing for it  >:(  I'll take it easy today, but am probably gonna have to work with bodyweight and/or seated movements for the next little while.  Hypertrophy training days I guess.

Going back to my post from the other day mate, any chance your calves are just overtight?  Could stretching and maybe some deep trigger pointing do anything.  As I mentioned, that was my problem.

That could be a contributor, for sure.  But my 2nd toe is a subtle shade of purple.

Ah, that's not good mate.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on August 08, 2021, 04:23:22 AM
Lost around 7lb since being back at work  :tup

After the last l*ckd*wn I had gone up to 12 stone 4 which is 172 lb. Now i'm around 165.  :)

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2021, 10:32:19 AM
Thursday I did calves.  I have one of two moves to go to - single standing calf raises (bodyweight only) being my usual go to.  I usually do a descending pyramid of 25-20-15-10-15 for a total of 75 reps on each leg.  Been doing this for years.

Friday morning I wake up with a LOT of tightness and pain in my foot.  No problem I figured, just some DOMS settling in.  Nope ... 2nd toe starts swelling up all day long.  Dr. Google tells me I have capsulitis - inflammation of ligaments in my second toe.  By the end of the day, all of my toes were swelling a little bit.  Took some advil, and iced it last night... swelling subsided a little bit.  Still hobbling around though.

Rest is really the only thing for it  >:(  I'll take it easy today, but am probably gonna have to work with bodyweight and/or seated movements for the next little while.  Hypertrophy training days I guess.

Going back to my post from the other day mate, any chance your calves are just overtight?  Could stretching and maybe some deep trigger pointing do anything.  As I mentioned, that was my problem.

That could be a contributor, for sure.  But my 2nd toe is a subtle shade of purple.

Ah, that's not good mate.  :-\

I texted you a picture... it was pretty nasty last night (but you know all about nasty toes, eh mate?  :lol

Pain, swelling and redness is WAY down today.  Been taking some anti-inflammatory's, and trying to stay off it, but I got some shit around the property to get done today.

If it continues to improve, I should be working out again by tomorrow - but it'll likely be a while before I do calves again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2021, 03:10:13 PM
Ah, that message was you of course.  I got your text but the pic didn't come through mate.

Good news that it's calmed down, but that indeed is a weird one.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
Wait..

Chad, you texted Kade a picture of...your toes??


@Kade, pic of the rash on my ass is on the way!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2021, 07:07:48 PM
Don’t you have a couch to sit on or something??

Keep it up, and I’ll text it to you. :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2021, 08:38:44 PM
Wait..

Chad, you texted Kade a picture of...your toes??


@Kade, pic of the rash on my ass is on the way!

You'll get a dick pic in return then.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2021, 03:41:24 AM
Wait..

Chad, you texted Kade a picture of...your toes??


@Kade, pic of the rash on my ass is on the way!

You'll get a dick pic in return then.  ;D

Speaking of a stubby toe… :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2021, 04:28:59 AM
Wait..

Chad, you texted Kade a picture of...your toes??


@Kade, pic of the rash on my ass is on the way!

You'll get a dick pic in return then.  ;D

Speaking of a stubby toe… :lol

 :lol  Ouch!  Good one.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2021, 03:56:42 AM
So I had issues with my right foot, and as I posted, I fixed that.  In my attention in fixing that, I neglected the left.  Did a few big runs last weekend and ended up with a really sore left ankle.  Gave it the week off and tried a run today.  Didn't work.  Feels like fucking stress fractures in ankle or something.  Going to do a shitload of trigger work on the lower leg and the calf to try and rectify this.  Was really enjoying the running a lot, but these setbacks are so depressing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2021, 04:29:59 AM
So I had issues with my right foot, and as I posted, I fixed that.  In my attention in fixing that, I neglected the left.  Did a few big runs last weekend and ended up with a really sore left ankle.  Gave it the week off and tried a run today.  Didn't work.  Feels like fucking stress fractures in ankle or something.  Going to do a shitload of trigger work on the lower leg and the calf to try and rectify this.  Was really enjoying the running a lot, but these setbacks are so depressing.

I hear ya.  I pulled something in my right trap on Friday's workout, and could barely swivel my neck from side-to-side.  Shit, I couldn't even do my ab routine at the end of the workout it was so tight.  All day Friday it felt like a spike had been driven into my middle trap.  Fortunately, it's one of those short-term things that's already starting to fade away.  But man, when you get into a groove, and then your body betrays you - fuck that's frustrating.  Gonna try to do my leg workout this morning, and hope it doesn't put too much strain on that trap.

I haven't weighed in or checked my BF in about a month or so, because fuckit....  the mirror and my workout log tells me what I need to know.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2021, 05:23:14 AM
Yeah, that sucks mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 22, 2021, 07:30:54 AM
Well, allow me to add to the collective misery of the thread. I fell hard on my mountain bike yesterday. I honestly didn't think i would even be able to get myself home after, but thankfully the adrenaline took over. I ended up going from 20km/h to a complete stop in less than 1s, and my hip took the brunt of it. I can thankfully walk with a heavy limp, but this morning my left hip is comically swollen. It looks like i gained 10lbs just on the one side of my ass overnight lol.

A doctor friend stopped in to assess me last night on his way to night shift, and he says nothing's broken. That's the good news. The bad news is that I'm likely out of commission for 3 weeks which means my big mtb trip on September long weekend won't be happening.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: T-ski on August 22, 2021, 08:31:21 AM
I’d like to give a shout-out to Mrs. T-ski for completing her first half marathon yesterday. Her goal was to finish in three hours and she did it at 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 22, 2021, 09:17:35 AM
I’d like to give a shout-out to Mrs. T-ski for completing her first half marathon yesterday. Her goal was to finish in three hours and she did it at 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Congrats to her! 21km is a solid accomplishment, and even better that she bested her goal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2021, 09:40:09 AM
I’d like to give a shout-out to Mrs. T-ski for completing her first half marathon yesterday. Her goal was to finish in three hours and she did it at 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Congrats to her! 21km is a solid accomplishment, and even better that she bested her goal

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 22, 2021, 01:17:55 PM
I'd like to report NO injuries from exercising this week.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2021, 02:20:12 PM
Well, allow me to add to the collective misery of the thread. I fell hard on my mountain bike yesterday. I honestly didn't think i would even be able to get myself home after, but thankfully the adrenaline took over. I ended up going from 20km/h to a complete stop in less than 1s, and my hip took the brunt of it. I can thankfully walk with a heavy limp, but this morning my left hip is comically swollen. It looks like i gained 10lbs just on the one side of my ass overnight lol.

A doctor friend stopped in to assess me last night on his way to night shift, and he says nothing's broken. That's the good news. The bad news is that I'm likely out of commission for 3 weeks which means my big mtb trip on September long weekend won't be happening.

Shit Rich, that sounds really nasty.  We can all rest up together.  :'(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
I'd like to report NO injuries from exercising this week.  ;D

We could all learn something from your rest and recovery regeime I think Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 05:25:15 AM
I'd like to report NO injuries from exercising this week.  ;D

We could all learn something from your rest and recovery regeime I think Tim.

He's got a point.  :lol

I chopped a shit-ton of wood this weekend - and that's not a euphemism. Probably 5 hours or so between Saturday and Sunday.  That's a helluva cardio workout I tell ya, especially when it's 30C+.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2021, 09:44:21 PM
How is everyones recovery going?  My left foot is still fucked, and not sure exactly why.  Getting frustrating.  Focusing on weights and jumped back in the pool both days on the weekend which was quite nice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2021, 04:55:54 AM
My toe healed up pretty quick. Same with my trap... that was just a ‘kink’ that went away after a couple of days. I had 3 days off last week around a celebration of life for my father, and also took yesterday off just to fucking relax.

Gonna do yoga later this morning, then get back at the weights tomorrow. DOMS is the only thing I’ve really had to recover from the past couple of weeks.

Sorry to hear about your foot mate.  Sounds like the pool might be a good plan for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2021, 05:16:41 AM
I just don't want to go out too early and keep injuring it.  Will take as much time off as I need.  The pool is a great and free backup so can't complain.

Good stuff for you mate with the recovery.  I have never done yoga.  I'd break in half with some of the shit I've seen them do.  Maybe it's something I'd need, I'm tight as hell everywhere.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2021, 06:44:04 AM
I try to do it at least once or twice a month. It’s a nice mellow workout to break up the lifting and HIIT sessions.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on October 27, 2021, 04:40:38 AM
To resurrect this thread:

Did my first races this summer, 7k and 5k twice. These are my results:

7k: 39:55 min (5:34/km)
5k (5.6 actually): 29:10 min (5:08/km)
5k: 26:44 min (5:16/km)

Sadly, I injured myself on 2nd 5k (started too fast, had to walk a bit) and it's been over a month now since I went running :-[ As thread title says, don't neglect rest/recovery ;) and don't run too fast too soon.

In meantime, I've been hitting gym, just started doing legs again last week and I already feel my leg getting better.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 05:06:37 AM
I was just thinking that this thread wasn't getting any love.

I just weighed in for the first time in a couple of months.  182.4, which is just fine, and the last time I took my BF (with callipers) I was 10.9%.  Less than a month until my 50th, at which point I'll see if I'm courageous enough to post some pics.

I also learned earlier this month that our company benefits will cover online fitness class subscriptions, so I'm going to sign up for the Athlean-X NXT (https://athleanx.com/nxt) program (where you get one 30-day program every month).  I've gotten 5 of his programs (purchased 3; received 2 as a bonus when buying the supplements), and love all of them.  I'm kinda stoked about these different 30-day programs, and will start them in January.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2021, 05:25:18 AM
To resurrect this thread:

Did my first races this summer, 7k and 5k twice. These are my results:

7k: 39:55 min (5:34/km)
5k (5.6 actually): 29:10 min (5:08/km)
5k: 26:44 min (5:16/km)

Sadly, I injured myself on 2nd 5k (started too fast, had to walk a bit) and it's been over a month now since I went running :-[ As thread title says, don't neglect rest/recovery ;) and don't run too fast too soon.

In meantime, I've been hitting gym, just started doing legs again last week and I already feel my leg getting better.

Hope the injury isn't too bad mate.  Some solid times there on your runs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2021, 05:26:04 AM
I was just thinking that this thread wasn't getting any love.

I just weighed in for the first time in a couple of months.  182.4, which is just fine, and the last time I took my BF (with callipers) I was 10.9%.  Less than a month until my 50th, at which point I'll see if I'm courageous enough to post some pics.

I also learned earlier this month that our company benefits will cover online fitness class subscriptions, so I'm going to sign up for the [url-https://athleanx.com/nxt]Athlean-X NXT[/url] program (where you get one 30-day program every month).  I've gotten 5 of his programs (purchased 3; received 2 as a bonus when buying the supplements), and love all of them.  I'm kinda stoked about these different 30-day programs, and will start them in January.

10.9 percent bf is bloody impressive mate.  Hope you can muster up some courage for some pics.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2021, 05:29:13 AM
Actually just started running again this week.  Was out for 2 months with a real bad ankle problem.  Not exactly sure what it was, didn't get it checked but need to stop and rest if I feel something flare up.  I'm guilty of just pushing through, and I paid for it.

So hard to get back into it after no running at all for 2 months.  Did a 5km today at 5:21 pace which is solid for only my 4th run back I think.

My swimming has improved again in that two months and lots of weights so was still very active.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 05:31:24 AM
I was just thinking that this thread wasn't getting any love.

I just weighed in for the first time in a couple of months.  182.4, which is just fine, and the last time I took my BF (with callipers) I was 10.9%.  Less than a month until my 50th, at which point I'll see if I'm courageous enough to post some pics.

I also learned earlier this month that our company benefits will cover online fitness class subscriptions, so I'm going to sign up for the [url-https://athleanx.com/nxt]Athlean-X NXT[/url] program (where you get one 30-day program every month).  I've gotten 5 of his programs (purchased 3; received 2 as a bonus when buying the supplements), and love all of them.  I'm kinda stoked about these different 30-day programs, and will start them in January.

10.9 percent bf is bloody impressive mate.  Hope you can muster up some courage for some pics.

That does assume I'm taking the skinfolds properly!   :D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2021, 03:16:34 PM
Joined a group of fellas some of which I work with on Strava for Mo's on the Move.  Movember charity thing where we have to run 5km everyday.  Thing is, all these guys are at least 10 years younger than me.  :lol

A few of these guys do 4.30 kms for fun at 5+ kms no problem.  Quite incredible.  I know I can't keep up but will do my best.  My leg is still giving me problems so hopefully I can push through.

First run this morning was at 5.09 pace.  Pretty happy with That but don't see me improving too much on that.  That was a struggle this morning.

Being clean shaven for the first time in like 15 years feels weird too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 31, 2021, 04:43:17 PM
Joined a group of fellas some of which I work with on Strava for Mo's on the Move.  Movember charity thing where we have to run 5km everyday.  Thing is, all these guys are at least 10 years younger than me.  :lol

A few of these guys do 4.30 kms for fun at 5+ kms no problem.  Quite incredible.  I know I can't keep up but will do my best.  My leg is still giving me problems so hopefully I can push through.

First run this morning was at 5.09 pace.  Pretty happy with That but don't see me improving too much on that.  That was a struggle this morning.

Being clean shaven for the first time in like 15 years feels weird too.

I just saw your run on Strava, and came to check if you were doing another challenge. 5km per day is far more reasonable than 300km in the month. Good luck with it!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2021, 11:40:32 PM
Joined a group of fellas some of which I work with on Strava for Mo's on the Move.  Movember charity thing where we have to run 5km everyday.  Thing is, all these guys are at least 10 years younger than me.  :lol

A few of these guys do 4.30 kms for fun at 5+ kms no problem.  Quite incredible.  I know I can't keep up but will do my best.  My leg is still giving me problems so hopefully I can push through.

First run this morning was at 5.09 pace.  Pretty happy with That but don't see me improving too much on that.  That was a struggle this morning.

Being clean shaven for the first time in like 15 years feels weird too.

I just saw your run on Strava, and came to check if you were doing another challenge. 5km per day is far more reasonable than 300km in the month. Good luck with it!

It's not the distance this time, I was going nice paces for those 10km runs and not focusing as much on time.  Competing against people I know who are way more athletic is the challenge.  I know I can't match them, but want to somewhat be somewhere in the ballpark consistently.  I've done faster but the 5km this morning was Damn hard and harder than most of the 10km runs I've done.

I can feel I'm putting pressure on myself though so I need to be careful.  Coming off 2 months of no running too so have to curb the ego if push comes to shove.

I think my aim is at least 1 run at 4.50 pace, that would be solid.

First run this morning, one of the young ones busts put a 5km at 4.31 pace. Lol.  Incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 01, 2021, 08:32:22 AM
Ran a half marathon on Saturday. The furthest distance I had run since my last half in March was 4 miles…..didn’t really train at all. Came in at 2hrs 24 min which….I don’t run for speed anymore but I was happy with given I just basically ‘winged’ it.

Around the 8 mile mark is when my quads and calves told me they didn’t appreciate the lack of training  :lol   Cardio wise I was solid the whole time as I still play two or three games of ice hockey a week and am running as well. Just that distance was the issue.

It was beautiful out though as all the trees are turning and the race was a course through a woodland community.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 01, 2021, 08:46:57 AM
Awesome stuff Gary.

I'm just continuing to plug along with weights and HIIT.  5-6 days a week, and trying to get a little steady-state bike ride in the morning while catching up on some TV-show watching.  i gotta do a re-watch of The Witcher S1 before S2 drops, so that'll give me eight one-hour extra cardio sessions in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 01, 2021, 08:58:36 AM

It was beautiful out though as all the trees are turning and the race was a course through a woodland community.

Sadly, I'm looking at fall in the rear view mirror here in Edmonton. I guess you could call it 'gothic fall' (i.e. bare trees but no snow yet...although the 14 day forecast has thoughts about that).

I went out for a ride on my road bike yesterday morning. It was -12C at the start and still only -5C when I finished. I ride bikes all year road, so I've ridden in much colder, but I just don't have the same level of gear for my road bike that I do for my winter rig. The toes and fingers paid a price yesterday. The beard froze pretty good, too, but that's more comical than anything. Might have to stick to just mountain biking until next year.

It's been slow going motivating myself to return to endurance training since my mtb crash back in August. With how little time was left in the season, I just figured it wasn't worth it. On the bright side it means I've been doing tons of resistance training, and the results are quite nice so far. I figure I'll try to ride that wave for the next month here until XC ski season starts up. Although, if enough snow falls I might be treated to an early season start.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 01, 2021, 11:12:19 AM
Work was so tiring I never did my usual walks. But now i'm unemployed I can start doing my long daily walks again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2021, 03:17:42 PM

It was beautiful out though as all the trees are turning and the race was a course through a woodland community.

Sadly, I'm looking at fall in the rear view mirror here in Edmonton. I guess you could call it 'gothic fall' (i.e. bare trees but no snow yet...although the 14 day forecast has thoughts about that).

I went out for a ride on my road bike yesterday morning. It was -12C at the start and still only -5C when I finished. I ride bikes all year road, so I've ridden in much colder, but I just don't have the same level of gear for my road bike that I do for my winter rig. The toes and fingers paid a price yesterday. The beard froze pretty good, too, but that's more comical than anything. Might have to stick to just mountain biking until next year.

It's been slow going motivating myself to return to endurance training since my mtb crash back in August. With how little time was left in the season, I just figured it wasn't worth it. On the bright side it means I've been doing tons of resistance training, and the results are quite nice so far. I figure I'll try to ride that wave for the next month here until XC ski season starts up. Although, if enough snow falls I might be treated to an early season start.

Your ice beard photo on Strava was beautiful.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
Ran a half marathon on Saturday. The furthest distance I had run since my last half in March was 4 miles…..didn’t really train at all. Came in at 2hrs 24 min which….I don’t run for speed anymore but I was happy with given I just basically ‘winged’ it.

Around the 8 mile mark is when my quads and calves told me they didn’t appreciate the lack of training  :lol   Cardio wise I was solid the whole time as I still play two or three games of ice hockey a week and am running as well. Just that distance was the issue.

It was beautiful out though as all the trees are turning and the race was a course through a woodland community.

Good stuff Gary.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2021, 03:21:19 PM
Just completed my second 5km run for day 2.  4.57 pace.  Happy with that but damn this is crazy already.  24 hours is not a long time when you need as much recovery as you can.  Normally I'd still do a weight legs session once a week but that's out of the question.  My dodgy leg already starting to get some niggles back.  Getting one goal of a sub 5 minute average run under my belt early on feels good though and takes a little pressure off myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 01, 2021, 06:08:11 PM
Managed 6.6 miles today. Need to keep that up AND get back to eating WAY healthier.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 02:34:34 AM
Joined a group of fellas some of which I work with on Strava for Mo's on the Move.  Movember charity thing where we have to run 5km everyday.  Thing is, all these guys are at least 10 years younger than me.  :lol

A few of these guys do 4.30 kms for fun at 5+ kms no problem.  Quite incredible.  I know I can't keep up but will do my best.  My leg is still giving me problems so hopefully I can push through.

First run this morning was at 5.09 pace.  Pretty happy with That but don't see me improving too much on that.  That was a struggle this morning.

Being clean shaven for the first time in like 15 years feels weird too.

I just saw your run on Strava, and came to check if you were doing another challenge. 5km per day is far more reasonable than 300km in the month. Good luck with it!

It's not the distance this time, I was going nice paces for those 10km runs and not focusing as much on time.  Competing against people I know who are way more athletic is the challenge.  I know I can't match them, but want to somewhat be somewhere in the ballpark consistently.  I've done faster but the 5km this morning was Damn hard and harder than most of the 10km runs I've done.

I can feel I'm putting pressure on myself though so I need to be careful.  Coming off 2 months of no running too so have to curb the ego if push comes to shove.

I think my aim is at least 1 run at 4.50 pace, that would be solid.

First run this morning, one of the young ones busts put a 5km at 4.31 pace. Lol.  Incredible.

Bah, hit 4:51 today!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 07, 2021, 04:14:51 AM
Joined a group of fellas some of which I work with on Strava for Mo's on the Move.  Movember charity thing where we have to run 5km everyday.  Thing is, all these guys are at least 10 years younger than me.  :lol

A few of these guys do 4.30 kms for fun at 5+ kms no problem.  Quite incredible.  I know I can't keep up but will do my best.  My leg is still giving me problems so hopefully I can push through.

First run this morning was at 5.09 pace.  Pretty happy with That but don't see me improving too much on that.  That was a struggle this morning.

Being clean shaven for the first time in like 15 years feels weird too.

I just saw your run on Strava, and came to check if you were doing another challenge. 5km per day is far more reasonable than 300km in the month. Good luck with it!

It's not the distance this time, I was going nice paces for those 10km runs and not focusing as much on time.  Competing against people I know who are way more athletic is the challenge.  I know I can't match them, but want to somewhat be somewhere in the ballpark consistently.  I've done faster but the 5km this morning was Damn hard and harder than most of the 10km runs I've done.

I can feel I'm putting pressure on myself though so I need to be careful.  Coming off 2 months of no running too so have to curb the ego if push comes to shove.

I think my aim is at least 1 run at 4.50 pace, that would be solid.

First run this morning, one of the young ones busts put a 5km at 4.31 pace. Lol.  Incredible.

Bah, hit 4:51 today!

Just for you ....

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 13, 2021, 06:43:21 AM
 :( Put on several lbs over the last few weeks. Not quite sure how as my work is quite full on and i'm carrying this 4ft tray filled with plates up to 5 hours a day.

Plus rarely eating and drinking lots of water. hey ho

I'm gonna give up sugary products again for the forseeable - but my main problem is snacking. What can I replace biscuits and sweets with ?

Gonna try like bags of carrot batons and bananas etc for when i'm peckish and bored and fancy a nibble.

I was 11 stone 2 lb once ( 156 lb ) and I don't wanna know what i am now... But I'm *determined* to get rid of it all again.

The last thing I want is to be one of those people who "just got fat lol" and never even bothered trying to do anything about it - and before I know it i'm 15 stone ( 210 lb ).


The good thing is - I HATE junk food and I love walking and home cooking so the only real *hard* part is will power and determination.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 13, 2021, 08:48:30 AM
:( Put on several lbs over the last few weeks. Not quite sure how as my work is quite full on and i'm carrying this 4ft tray filled with plates up to 5 hours a day.

Plus rarely eating and drinking lots of water. hey ho

I'm gonna give up sugary products again for the forseeable - but my main problem is snacking. What can I replace biscuits and sweets with ?

Gonna try like bags of carrot batons and bananas etc for when i'm peckish and bored and fancy a nibble.

I was 11 stone 2 lb once ( 156 lb ) and I don't wanna know what i am now... But I'm *determined* to get rid of it all again.

The last thing I want is to be one of those people who "just got fat lol" and never even bothered trying to do anything about it - and before I know it i'm 15 stone ( 210 lb ).


The good thing is - I HATE junk food and I love walking and home cooking so the only real *hard* part is will power and determination.
Having bagged carrots around could certainly help.  Sundays, I pre cut and portion mixed veggies for the week. Carrots, cauliflower  and broccoli.  It's simple. I can eat it raw. I can steam them in a microwave.

You're 100% correct that it's all about the willpower.  Having ready access to healthy snacks goes a long way. In my house, i need it to be as easy to get fruit and veg as it is to grab a fistful of kid's cereal....or peanut butter, for that matter.

Have you considered seeds and nuts at all? They'd give you some variety, and would be better than biscuits by a large margin.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 13, 2021, 09:14:16 AM
Luckily i'm also not one of those "fruit and veg is for rabbits m8 wheres the steak" people either. I love eating fruit and veggies.

I don't even HAVE to have meat - I just do. I make my own stir fried chicken and rice / salad / sometimes mini naan breads at home.

Also my night time activity used to be a 60 min walk - most of which is uphill. With a few trips up to the supermarket (1mile each way) during the day.

:) But I need to step it up again. Lately been feeling full for WAY too long after eating.

Yeah I love cashews. Maybe i'll get some mixed nuts too. Certainly better than Haribo.

I'll have a look in the shops later for a big bag of mixed nuts / cashews. No raisins though  :( not my bag.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 09:24:23 AM
My go to snacks are turkey kolbasa, hard boiled eggs, Greek yogurt, cheese, fruit (gala apples). Carrots an hummus is good, but I typically hate snacking with veggies, even tho I know I should.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 13, 2021, 09:25:27 AM
Mmmm Hummus. Love dat shit I could eat it by the spoonfull.  :tup

When I lived in dubai - i'm pretty sure I lived exclusively on pitta bread and hummus.

Taramasalata however - :puke:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 13, 2021, 10:14:14 AM
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Is this showing up ?

Anyway - here's me. Day 1 - not exactly obese - but definitely time to get in shape again.


Not checked my scales yet as i'm too scared  ;D i don't think i've gone back up to 190 lb but I don't think i'll like it anyway.

Also I know not to check every day - as tempting as that is. I used to check every monday morning - when there's more likely to be a noticeable difference.

But as someone who is kinda obsessed with facts and figures - it's quite addictive seeing the numbers drop over time. I went from a 36" waist to 34" - to 32" and that's where I am now.

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My go to snacks are turkey kolbasa, hard boiled eggs, Greek yogurt, cheese, fruit (gala apples). Carrots an hummus is good, but I typically hate snacking with veggies, even tho I know I should.

I love hard boiled eggs and salad. But I don't know what dressing to use as whichever one I try they all seem to taste exclusively of vinegar...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2021, 03:17:14 AM
What are you looking to achieve?  You're not overweight and look actually a perfectly fine, normal healthy weight?

I'm actually a little concerned you're looking to loose weight.  Especially the first line where you say 'not exactly obese,' well, no, have you looked in the mirror?  You also say you're scared to step on the scale.  Why?  Be careful, I've dabbled into eating disorder territory and body dysmorphia is fucking real.  You don't need to lose weight.

Mate, if I were you, I'd eat solid decent food around your maintenance and maybe look at some weight training.  It's possibly exactly what you may need and looking for.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2021, 03:18:14 AM
As for snacking, I don't do it.  It's too dangerous.  I'd rather fast if I have to and enjoy a larger portion of food.  Snacking has always lead me to overeat calories.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2021, 03:57:55 AM
I may not look it but I definitely feel it. I've got a bit of a gut under there  :corn

It's not very comfortable atm. Also I don't want to be a skeleton or anything.

I never starve myself or anything like that.

...I just like nibbling on food whilst i'm watching EwToob of something.


In 2017 On jan 1st I gave up sugar in my coffee and all sweets/snacks/processed foods. I was losing around 3lb a week. As I said I don't need to be a stick insect.

Just without that podgy gut.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 14, 2021, 05:52:29 AM
Im with Kade on this one.  You're nowhere near obese, Kotowboy. I'm not even sure you'd classify as over weight. I realize it's entirely possible you're heavier than you used to be,  but it almost sounds like you're trying to shame yourself into a diet or something. Now, if you're concerned that you continue to gain 3-4 lbs every year, and you want to fight back,
 then that's legit. But you're definitely not anywhere in the realm of overweight or obese. My father in law is obese. He looks like he ate 2 or 3 of you.


As for snacking, I don't do it.  It's too dangerous.  I'd rather fast if I have to and enjoy a larger portion of food.  Snacking has always lead me to overeat calories.
I think i need the snacking because i fast. I'm usually quite hungry when my eating window opens,  so i find i eat pretty regularly from "breakfast" at 1pm until my dinner.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on November 14, 2021, 05:57:05 AM
Got back from Ragnar trail last night and still feeling exhausted and dehydrated. Went to sleep at 7pm and slept for over 9 hours which is rare for me. I think I would do it again, but with glamping. The lack of sleep and being packed in with so many people was really the worst part. Also not being able to stake our shade structure properly which made us all a little on edge any time it got breezy. Damn the AZ hard ground. I will praise the potty situation though. So many portapotties, never a line, and they cleaned them constantly. I'll load some photos to FB today some time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2021, 06:17:09 AM
Im with Kade on this one.  You're nowhere near obese, Kotowboy. I'm not even sure you'd classify as over weight. I realize it's entirely possible you're heavier than you used to be,  but it almost sounds like you're trying to shame yourself into a diet or something. Now, if you're concerned that you continue to gain 3-4 lbs every year, and you want to fight back,
 then that's legit. But you're definitely not anywhere in the realm of overweight or obese. My father in law is obese. He looks like he ate 2 or 3 of you.


:-*

I just don't like how I feel / look. I used to be a lot lighter. As I said - i'm not looking to be HENCH or even a stick insect. Just to where I feel a lot better.

Of course - there's the very real possibility that I eat well and exercise for one week and then go F- IT. We shall see.

As everyone knows - I hate how easy it is to gain weight and how f-ing annoying and a PITA it is to shift.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2021, 07:52:02 AM
Walked 9 miles Thursday. 7 yesterday.

I know walking does FA unless you get your heart rate up. But it’s still better than NOT walking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: ReaperKK on November 14, 2021, 08:07:46 AM
Walked 9 miles Thursday. 7 yesterday.

I know walking does FA unless you get your heart rate up. But it’s still better than NOT walking.

I hurt my knee a little while back so I'm careful jogging and stick walking, walking helps. It's getting out and moving that is what's important.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2021, 08:22:13 AM
Yeah I get way too bored sitting indoors. I *have* to go outside unless it's a torrential downpour.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 03:38:53 AM
Im with Kade on this one.  You're nowhere near obese, Kotowboy. I'm not even sure you'd classify as over weight. I realize it's entirely possible you're heavier than you used to be,  but it almost sounds like you're trying to shame yourself into a diet or something. Now, if you're concerned that you continue to gain 3-4 lbs every year, and you want to fight back,
 then that's legit. But you're definitely not anywhere in the realm of overweight or obese. My father in law is obese. He looks like he ate 2 or 3 of you.


As for snacking, I don't do it.  It's too dangerous.  I'd rather fast if I have to and enjoy a larger portion of food.  Snacking has always lead me to overeat calories.
I think i need the snacking because i fast. I'm usually quite hungry when my eating window opens,  so i find i eat pretty regularly from "breakfast" at 1pm until my dinner.

Aha, well said my friend.  I get it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 03:39:26 AM
Im with Kade on this one.  You're nowhere near obese, Kotowboy. I'm not even sure you'd classify as over weight. I realize it's entirely possible you're heavier than you used to be,  but it almost sounds like you're trying to shame yourself into a diet or something. Now, if you're concerned that you continue to gain 3-4 lbs every year, and you want to fight back,
 then that's legit. But you're definitely not anywhere in the realm of overweight or obese. My father in law is obese. He looks like he ate 2 or 3 of you.


:-*

I just don't like how I feel / look. I used to be a lot lighter. As I said - i'm not looking to be HENCH or even a stick insect. Just to where I feel a lot better.

Of course - there's the very real possibility that I eat well and exercise for one week and then go F- IT. We shall see.

As everyone knows - I hate how easy it is to gain weight and how f-ing annoying and a PITA it is to shift.

Some heavy weight training is what you need.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 15, 2021, 03:40:34 AM
Not with my shoulders...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 10:29:06 AM
Okay then.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Chino on November 15, 2021, 10:49:15 AM
I don't get why people say walking doesn't do anything unless your heartrate is elevated for a good portion of it. Your body still needs to use stored energy (fat) to produce motion, even if it's just walking. I lost more than 80lbs in the last 18 months by just walking (and calorie control).

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 11:25:14 AM
Jesus, Brian... you’re 1/2 the man you used to be!!   :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 15, 2021, 12:30:28 PM
Okay then.

I hurt them when I fell off my bike in 2015.

Anyway..

Dinner tonight = Homemade Chicken stir fry with cashew nuts and naan bread / sweet and sour sauce.

Dessert = Natural Greek Yoghurt with banana slices. 😊
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 15, 2021, 01:27:42 PM
I don't get why people say walking doesn't do anything unless your heartrate is elevated for a good portion of it. Your body still needs to use stored energy (fat) to produce motion, even if it's just walking. I lost more than 80lbs in the last 18 months by just walking (and calorie control).


Kotowboy was half correct. It's not that walking doesn't burn calories without elevating your HR. What it won't do is improve your fitness and cardiovascular function. Losing weight will help the former, to a degree, however, you won't see any other health benefits without the elevated HR.

Push comes to shove, you absolutely walk if the other option is do nothing. Doesn't change the fact that running > walking, swimming > running, cycling > all exercises ever invented combined 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Chino on November 15, 2021, 02:33:52 PM
I don't get why people say walking doesn't do anything unless your heartrate is elevated for a good portion of it. Your body still needs to use stored energy (fat) to produce motion, even if it's just walking. I lost more than 80lbs in the last 18 months by just walking (and calorie control).


Kotowboy was half correct. It's not that walking doesn't burn calories without elevating your HR. What it won't do is improve your fitness and cardiovascular function. Losing weight will help the former, to a degree, however, you won't see any other health benefits without the elevated HR.

Push comes to shove, you absolutely walk if the other option is do nothing. Doesn't change the fact that running > walking, swimming > running, cycling > all exercises ever invented combined

Right. My bad. I was speaking strictly within the context/on the topic of weight loss.

Where do rowing machines fit in on your hierarchy there? I used to really love using mine. I had one a few years ago and then sold it after a really bad, but unrelated back injury. I felt like that thing got my legs every bit as tired as running, and it made my arms to burn in the process. Twenty minutes on that felt like an hour's worth of running on the treadmill. That might be a decent option for Kotow if his shoulders are an issue. It's not a heavy or strenuous lift, just a nice and smooth resistance.

Jesus, Brian... you’re 1/2 the man you used to be!!   :tup :tup

 Not quite half. More like 2/3s  :lol Feels good though. It's crazy when I pick up things that weigh 50 or so pounds and think "you used to carry this and then some with every step you took 24/7/365". It's kind of a trip.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 04:37:13 PM
I don't get why people say walking doesn't do anything unless your heartrate is elevated for a good portion of it. Your body still needs to use stored energy (fat) to produce motion, even if it's just walking. I lost more than 80lbs in the last 18 months by just walking (and calorie control).


Kotowboy was half correct. It's not that walking doesn't burn calories without elevating your HR. What it won't do is improve your fitness and cardiovascular function. Losing weight will help the former, to a degree, however, you won't see any other health benefits without the elevated HR.

Push comes to shove, you absolutely walk if the other option is do nothing. Doesn't change the fact that running > walking, swimming > running, cycling > all exercises ever invented combined

All of this.  I started seeing my best results in terms of body composition when I started running seriously and more swimming, along with heavy weight sessions.

I used to just piss fart around with exercise and worry more about calories.  When I changed my focus on upping my fitness and not worrying as much about my calories, I started seeing significant changes.  Challenging yourself in a cardiovascular sense and with the weight training changed it all for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 07:15:07 PM
I just like my weightlifting, and have a bit of a sweet tooth.  Plus, there's a shit-ton of stuff on Netflix and Amazon that I want to watch which mrs.jingle has no interest in, so double-dipping and watching while on my exercise bike allows me to burn a few of those extra calories I treat myself too.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not careless about it... I'm talking 4 chocolate covered almonds, or a 1/2 dozen rosebuds.  Nothing more than 60-100 cals, a few times a week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 15, 2021, 08:57:44 PM
I love rowing, but i don't use mine much these days (kinda sad with how much gym space it takes up).  It's essentially combining strength and cardio which i love to do  The only issue i have is that it doesn't fit well as a cardio booster during strength workouts because of the grip and upper body requirements. It almost needs to be done on its own vs stacked with a full strength workout
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2021, 04:41:25 AM
Bah!  4.52 for 5km this morning.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2021, 04:43:05 AM
Okay then.

I hurt them when I fell off my bike in 2015.

Anyway..

Dinner tonight = Homemade Chicken stir fry with cashew nuts and naan bread / sweet and sour sauce.

Dessert = Natural Greek Yoghurt with banana slices. 😊

That's 6 years ago man.  Did you do so something that bad doctors have told you not to lift or something?

Honestly, some weight training is what you are looking for if you want to improve your composition.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2021, 04:47:25 AM
Okay then.

I hurt them when I fell off my bike in 2015.

Anyway..

Dinner tonight = Homemade Chicken stir fry with cashew nuts and naan bread / sweet and sour sauce.

Dessert = Natural Greek Yoghurt with banana slices. 😊

That's 6 years ago man.  Did you do so something that bad doctors have told you not to lift or something?

Honestly, some weight training is what you are looking for if you want to improve your composition.

I agree here.  Perhaps try resistance bands.  There are always ways to do resistance training while accommodating for (most) injuries.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2021, 10:46:55 PM
Bah!  4.52 for 5km this morning.  >:(

4.52 again this morning.  Motherfucker.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 17, 2021, 04:54:08 AM
Bah!  4.52 for 5km this morning.  >:(

4.52 again this morning.  Motherfucker.

Man, you run 5k faster than I take my morning dump!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 17, 2021, 05:53:31 AM
 ::) wtf i could WALK 5km in way less than 4 hours and 52 minutes. WTF.


... say what?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 05:25:41 PM
Bah!  4.52 for 5km this morning.  >:(

4.52 again this morning.  Motherfucker.

Man, you run 5k faster than I take my morning dump!

Haha thanks mate. I'm slow compared to some of these younger lads.  Definitely inspirational and pushing me. Its tough doing it at 6am when I've already been at work for a couple of hours but I have a nice routine at the moment.  Its clearing my head for the day.

4.51 this morning though.  So mad.  Matched my PB but so close to beating it.  :censored
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 07:40:54 PM
::) wtf i could WALK 5km in way less than 4 hours and 52 minutes. WTF.


... say what?

I would seriously hope you could walk 5km in under 5 hours.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on November 18, 2021, 08:41:07 AM
Haha thanks mate. I'm slow compared to some of these younger lads.  Definitely inspirational and pushing me. Its tough doing it at 6am when I've already been at work for a couple of hours but I have a nice routine at the moment.  Its clearing my head for the day.

Are you working nights or have I read this wrong?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 18, 2021, 11:43:30 AM
::) wtf i could WALK 5km in way less than 4 hours and 52 minutes. WTF.


... say what?

I would seriously hope you could walk 5km in under 5 hours.

Me too  :biggrin:

One time I had to get the bus from my Dads back to my house and it's 5 miles. The bus never turned up and I was so annoyed I just decided to walk it.

I walk really fast anyway and it took me around 90 mins. I've always wanted to walk it and now I have.

I remember being little and needing to walk the 1 mile to the nearest shop from my Dads house seemed like a TREK.

Now I regularly walk 6 - 7 miles a day just around town.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 01:02:21 PM
Haha thanks mate. I'm slow compared to some of these younger lads.  Definitely inspirational and pushing me. Its tough doing it at 6am when I've already been at work for a couple of hours but I have a nice routine at the moment.  Its clearing my head for the day.

Are you working nights or have I read this wrong?

Starting around 4am.  Do my morning work then I'm free for a run around 6am.  I work then till 6pm, get in the gym for some weights for 45 minutes then head home.  Rinse and repeat. Its just a busy time of year for me.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 18, 2021, 01:09:37 PM
I have no job at the mo so more time to be active. :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 02:18:36 PM
I have no job at the mo so more time to be active. :)

Now is the time to really start pushing yourself then and up the activity.  Walking is great but if you want changes you have to push and challenge yourself beyond your limits, constantly and consistently.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 02:21:18 PM
Just completed a 7km at a 4.57 average.  My slowest km was 4 minutes 59 seconds so pretty solid.  Legs are hurting but feeling a bit fitter.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 06:22:40 PM
Today, my rest was only 30 minutes, which unfortunately is nowhere near my personal best.


In all seriousness, the stats you guys put up in this thread is outstanding. I'm envious.


Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 07:30:29 PM
Today, my rest was only 30 minutes, which unfortunately is nowhere near my personal best.


In all seriousness, the stats you guys put up in this thread is outstanding. I'm envious.

 :lol

Thanks Tim.  When we can finally meet I'll put you through a few sessions and some runs.  It'll be sweet.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 07:31:30 PM
The only runs I'll be having will be the ones adjusting to Australian food. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 11:19:57 PM
 :lol

Don't try the Vegemite then mate!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Kotowboy on November 19, 2021, 03:26:52 AM
I have no job at the mo so more time to be active. :)

Now is the time to really start pushing yourself then and up the activity.  Walking is great but if you want changes you have to push and challenge yourself beyond your limits, constantly and consistently.

to rise above the challenge ? To blaze a brand new trail ?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2021, 08:03:01 AM
I have no job at the mo so more time to be active. :)

Now is the time to really start pushing yourself then and up the activity.  Walking is great but if you want changes you have to push and challenge yourself beyond your limits, constantly and consistently.

to rise above the challenge ? To blaze a brand new trail ?

I think Kade didn't get past Invisible Monster on that album :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 01:04:53 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 01:25:39 PM
I have no job at the mo so more time to be active. :)

Now is the time to really start pushing yourself then and up the activity.  Walking is great but if you want changes you have to push and challenge yourself beyond your limits, constantly and consistently.

to rise above the challenge ? To blaze a brand new trail ?

I think Kade didn't get past Invisible Monster on that album :lol

Yeah, I had no idea where that quote was from, if it was infact a quote from something.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2021, 02:44:29 PM
We’re those lyrics from AVFTTOTW?  If so, that explains why I didn’t get the joke either.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 07:29:17 PM
Achieved my goal this morning of what I was aiming to get before the end of the month.  5km in 23:43.  Average of 4:44 per km.  Now to see what else I can do in the next 10 days.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2021, 05:37:30 AM
Achieved my goal this morning of what I was aiming to get before the end of the month.  5km in 23:43.  Average of 4:44 per km.  Now to see what else I can do in the next 10 days.

Awesome sauce.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 20, 2021, 05:30:05 PM
So.... you ran a half marathon for fun today,  Kade?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 03:40:03 AM
So.... you ran a half marathon for fun today,  Kade?

So, this Movember thing we had to do 5km of activity per day.  Cycling, swimming and a few other things were allowed but running is the main thing.  Not many lads have run everyday.  Only 4 of us I think.  Some even walking some days and they are like 15 younger than me!

Anyway, I guess being the oldest, my ego is wanting me to try and compete as much as possible.  I can't but my own mental toughness is going pretty hard to do my best to somewhat keep up.  These guys have been doing a thing where on the 10th day, they did 10km, and the 15th day, 15km.  20th day, 3 of them did 20km, one did the 21km at under 5 minutes a km!!!

Today was day 21 and this somewhat inspired me.  Again, I'm not really trying to keep up, I hit my goal yesterday and a run everyday is the other goal.  I got going today and knew my times were average for what I've been doing.  I did have in the back of my mind wondering if I could do the 21km but I didn't feel the best when I started and the times showed that.  Anyway, got 10km in and started to feel okay and just decided to keep going.  13km was the next goal and then I got to 15km.  I did the math and knew I was under 5 and a half minutes per km so I was then determined to get the 21km.

The last 3km tested every fiber of my being, holy shit that was hard.  I almost gave up at 18.5km.  I had to force myself to keep going.  Clocking it at 5:28 average per km felt amazing.  I must say I've felt a little sick the rest of today but I guess that's warranted.  I have another hectic week at work so don't know if these guys are going to do 25km and 30km on their respective days but it's more than likely.  If I can just manage 5km every day now, I'll be happy.  A 5km PB yesterday and clocking a half marathon today has me pretty happy for the challenge for the month.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 03:49:53 AM
I guess randomly doing a half marathon on my own around a lake on a quiet Sunday morning is a bit crazy hey?  It's scary, I just keep trying to push harder, I'm certain I'm not quite right in the head.  :lol  I have to lay off the David Goggins vids I think lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 06:52:57 AM
That’s amazing and inspiring. I took Friday off, and yesterday (Tending to a dog healing from surgery).  Barely got 3 hours sleep last night (see, recovering dog), so I doubt I’m gonna have the will to do anything today.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 11:51:47 AM
That’s amazing and inspiring. I took Friday off, and yesterday (Tending to a dog healing from surgery).  Barely got 3 hours sleep last night (see, recovering dog), so I doubt I’m gonna have the will to do anything today.  :-\

Thanks mate.

I hope your puppy is okay and I wouldn't worry about having a day off, you'll make up for it.  It does eat at you hey when things get in the way and you skip some training.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 02:30:01 PM
That’s amazing and inspiring. I took Friday off, and yesterday (Tending to a dog healing from surgery).  Barely got 3 hours sleep last night (see, recovering dog), so I doubt I’m gonna have the will to do anything today.  :-\

Thanks mate.

I hope your puppy is okay and I wouldn't worry about having a day off, you'll make up for it.  It does eat at you hey when things get in the way and you skip some training.

You have no idea!  Well, actually you do since you mentioned it!!! :lol. Combined with some sloppy eating (more than a couple of sweets with the birthday), I feel like turd today. Gotta get back at it tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 02:35:37 PM
That’s amazing and inspiring. I took Friday off, and yesterday (Tending to a dog healing from surgery).  Barely got 3 hours sleep last night (see, recovering dog), so I doubt I’m gonna have the will to do anything today.  :-\

Thanks mate.

I hope your puppy is okay and I wouldn't worry about having a day off, you'll make up for it.  It does eat at you hey when things get in the way and you skip some training.

You have no idea!  Well, actually you do since you mentioned it!!! :lol. Combined with some sloppy eating (more than a couple of sweets with the birthday), I feel like turd today. Gotta get back at it tomorrow.

Indulging too much and skipping training are two things that really hits me and the guilt builds up.  Have to be careful as the overwhelming guilt sometimes is borderline unhealthy.  I know all too well.

I think considering its your birthday, you can cut yourself some slack.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2021, 02:39:05 PM
Oh yeah, I am.  I won’t stress about it much.  I have a fairly open day tomorrow, and my boss is on vacation. I should be able to squeeze out some time on the bike, and start my next program.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 02:40:07 PM
Just had to backup and just did my 5km for today.  5:10 pace, but Jesus, my legs fucking hate me right now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2021, 02:40:26 PM
Oh yeah, I am.  I won’t stress about it much.  I have a fairly open day tomorrow, and my boss is on vacation. I should be able to squeeze out some time on the bike, and start my next program.

Nice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 09:01:52 PM
Rich, you're beard is fucking extraordinary.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 24, 2021, 10:20:30 PM
Rich, you're beard is fucking extraordinary.

Lol, i try.  It looks better close up where you can see the defined mustache....and not covered in ice. That helps,  too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 11:04:21 PM
Rich, you're beard is fucking extraordinary.

Lol, i try.  It looks better close up where you can see the defined mustache....and not covered in ice. That helps,  too.

Looks BETTER up close.  Lol fuck me!  :lol :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2021, 03:02:17 PM
Bump.

Addicted to running still at the moment.  Have ran at least 5km since November 1 everyday.  This morning managed to crack the 5km in 23 minutes flat.  4:36 average time per km.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 09, 2021, 09:07:44 PM
Bump.

Addicted to running still at the moment.  Have ran at least 5km since November 1 everyday.  This morning managed to crack the 5km in 23 minutes flat.  4:36 average time per km.  :metal

Quite a bit of running, indeed lol. I don't think I ever ran 5km in 23 min not on a treadmill (where I was also probably cheating a bit holding on, as was typical of me in my youthful days).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 09, 2021, 09:10:02 PM
As for myself, I've been doing quite a bit of swimming. Partly because my son has lessons, and I'd rather get some exercise instead of sit around like almost every other parent. But I've also been dealing with another forearm strain from not properly healing the first one. The swimming is at least letting me get a quasi upper body strength workout. I usually do many "pull" laps, so it's definitely putting more strain on the shoulders and back. God I miss weights...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2021, 10:07:26 PM
As for myself, I've been doing quite a bit of swimming. Partly because my son has lessons, and I'd rather get some exercise instead of sit around like almost every other parent. But I've also been dealing with another forearm strain from not properly healing the first one. The swimming is at least letting me get a quasi upper body strength workout. I usually do many "pull" laps, so it's definitely putting more strain on the shoulders and back. God I miss weights...

Most of my swimming these days is all pull mate.  Don't underestimate what it does for your upper body, I love it.

My weights have been lacking with the running.  Need to prioritise.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2021, 06:42:30 AM
I've been trying to get some steady state cardio in 4-5 days a week to compensate for the abundance of sweets and treats that come this time of year (birthday and holidays).  Plus getting my weightlifting in.  Had a bit of a setback the last week of November and didn't workout, but then came back pretty strong the following week with some PBs (at least, since I used to lift real heavy in my 20s) on deadlifts, squats, and bench press - so I was pleased with that.

I'm in the midst of a very shoulder/trap centric 4-week program, and man are my shoulders feeling it last night was 120 reps (I did 6 rounds of 20 reps each of the below)

- Wide BB shrugs (175lbs)
- "W" shoulder raises (25lb DBs) - hammer curl into shoulder fly and the arms form a "W"
- Grave-diggers* ( 50lb DB) - from your knees with a single DB, hoist a DB to one shoulder, loop/prese it over your head to the other shoulder, and let it down to the ground; repeat backwards (think like you're shovelling dirt)
- Goblet squat (50lb crush grip)

Took just over 50 minutes to get thru that.  Good shoulder, trap, and forearm workout.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 06:59:23 PM
Pumped out a 10km this morning in 48:51.  That's 4:53 average per km.  Not bad!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2021, 08:00:56 PM
Good stuff.  What’s your PB for 10K?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 11:53:20 PM
Good stuff.  What’s your PB for 10K?

That was it........I'll try and go faster then.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 18, 2021, 04:44:23 AM
Good stuff.  What’s your PB for 10K?

That was it........I'll try and go faster then.

 :rollin :rollin

YOU BETTER!!!!  Punk. 

JK, man.  Congrats on that.  I would've thought a bit more of a reaction than "not bad" for a PB.  Very happy for you.

I've been doing a very shoulder focused program the past couple of weeks, and feeling pretty good about it.  My shoulders are constantly sore (but mostly in a good way!).  In the meantime, I've set a PB of my own, getting to 193lbs on bench press (for 6 reps).  My chest moves have always been shit.  Even back in my 20s when I could do a lot of heavier lifts, I never got above 185.  So, pretty stoked about this.  Squat is getting up to my highest weights back in my 20s again.  And having a nice cage allows me to go deep in them without fear of crashing.

I'm gonna need to get a 7' bar soon though.  When I bought my weight set last year, I didn't think I had the physical space to work comfortably with a 7' bar, and didn't think I necessarily needed it either, so I got a 6'.  Couple that with the fact I got rubber coated plates (which are just a tad thicker than standard cast-iron plates), and I'm literally out of room to add to my deadlift (which is at 293lbs).  Might need to add a couple of 45s to my collection as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on December 18, 2021, 08:46:30 AM
We're going to be doing a complete reno of our house next year. In the basement redesign we'll be able to add an extra 2 feet to the current gym size due to the removal of a wall. Doesn't sound like much,  but it'll give us a lot more options for both configuration and equipment choice. My wife would love to replace the rower with a treadmill, but in our current space it wouldn't fit with the bike and power rack. We'd have to store the bike inside the power rack, and move it to the middle of the basement tv room when doing strength training. Not ideal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2021, 02:40:44 PM
Good stuff.  What’s your PB for 10K?

That was it........I'll try and go faster then.

 :rollin :rollin

YOU BETTER!!!!  Punk. 

JK, man.  Congrats on that.  I would've thought a bit more of a reaction than "not bad" for a PB.  Very happy for you.

I've been doing a very shoulder focused program the past couple of weeks, and feeling pretty good about it.  My shoulders are constantly sore (but mostly in a good way!).  In the meantime, I've set a PB of my own, getting to 193lbs on bench press (for 6 reps).  My chest moves have always been shit.  Even back in my 20s when I could do a lot of heavier lifts, I never got above 185.  So, pretty stoked about this.  Squat is getting up to my highest weights back in my 20s again.  And having a nice cage allows me to go deep in them without fear of crashing.

I'm gonna need to get a 7' bar soon though.  When I bought my weight set last year, I didn't think I had the physical space to work comfortably with a 7' bar, and didn't think I necessarily needed it either, so I got a 6'.  Couple that with the fact I got rubber coated plates (which are just a tad thicker than standard cast-iron plates), and I'm literally out of room to add to my deadlift (which is at 293lbs).  Might need to add a couple of 45s to my collection as well.

That weight is kind of where my bench press max is.  Probably not for 6 reps though.

We're going to be doing a complete reno of our house next year. In the basement redesign we'll be able to add an extra 2 feet to the current gym size due to the removal of a wall. Doesn't sound like much,  but it'll give us a lot more options for both configuration and equipment choice. My wife would love to replace the rower with a treadmill, but in our current space it wouldn't fit with the bike and power rack. We'd have to store the bike inside the power rack, and move it to the middle of the basement tv room when doing strength training. Not ideal.

Treadmill >>> Rower however.  For me anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 30, 2022, 09:40:11 AM
Did a spin class for the first time ever today. Pretty interesting.

It was 45mins, but the time just flew by which is nice since I typically get bored with cardio and stop too early.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 30, 2022, 11:31:05 AM
Did a spin class for the first time ever today. Pretty interesting.

It was 45mins, but the time just flew by which is nice since I typically get bored with cardio and stop too early.

Nice! I've done a few before, and i like them.  They can be pretty damn intense,  too
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on February 22, 2022, 08:56:43 AM
Four days in to getting back to daily exercise. Feels pretty good but weight training will be slow to build up. I did legs on Saturday, back and chest on Sunday, core on Monday, and arms and shoulders this morning. I've got a comfortable overall soreness, which is good, but I'll probably just do cardio tomorrow and start back up with legs on Thursday. The hardest thing to remember is keeping my core engaged and to go slow.

Next week I'll be on vacation in Florida, so hopefully I'll be able to get right back into it when we return.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 22, 2022, 09:42:44 AM
I've never been a 'work out' guy.....since I started exercising and losing weight in 2010 it's always just been cardio for me....running, stairs....etc etc. Last night I noticed on FB Marketplace that a buddy of mine was selling a nice weight bench, three bars, a good batch of loose weights and what not.....just appeared to be a good 'starter' or average set. I messaged him and asked what kind of deal he'd cut me and he told me that if I wanted it all just to come get it! So, of course I said thanks and am going to go pick it all up Saturday.

Not that I'll stop running...and I still play ice hockey 3 hours every sunday....but, it's just more and more difficult to run and do cardio like I used to. I was 4-5 days a week 5 miles minimum for a decade. After I caught covid for the first time in december of 20'.....I never really got back on track with running multiple times a week. My motivation or something just never returned. I feel like I've recovered from it all as I've ran three half marathons since then and still play hockey....but I just can't get myself to run more than two or three times a month. So, I think I'm ready to create a different habit and I'm hoping to inspire/lead my sons (15, 14 and 11) to start a bit of a 'lifting' regiment.

So....if any of you have a simple 'lifting' plan or advice on how to start up I'd more than appreciate it. I could look online I suppose but I'd love to hear from people who've actually done it or are doing it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2022, 10:30:29 AM
Well, I'm a big fan of Jeff Cavaliere and the Athlean-X channel - there's tons of free stuff on his YT channel, and all very good at explaining not just the how, but the why "put the science back in sport".  I've bought a few of his programs, and thought they were all great.

Unfortunately, I've fallen off the wagon (a long story not for now) - haven't worked out in almost a month.  Not sure when I'll be able to get back on.   :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 22, 2022, 10:43:47 AM
Well, I'm a big fan of Jeff Cavaliere and the Athlean-X channel - there's tons of free stuff on his YT channel, and all very good at explaining not just the how, but the why "put the science back in sport".  I've bought a few of his programs, and thought they were all great.

Thanks for that Chad. That'll be a good place for me to go and start. I'm not looking to do anything other than develop a good routine/habit and get my kiddos going as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 01:06:09 PM
I haven't run in a month, which has been very frustrating.  Dodgy ankle still, but now that same ankle is a little more tender after my accident, so might be a couple more weeks yet depending any lasting effects.  Been swimming pretty regularly though and weights 5 days a week so still very active.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 22, 2022, 01:28:11 PM
Well, I'm a big fan of Jeff Cavaliere and the Athlean-X channel - there's tons of free stuff on his YT channel, and all very good at explaining not just the how, but the why "put the science back in sport".  I've bought a few of his programs, and thought they were all great.

Thanks for that Chad. That'll be a good place for me to go and start. I'm not looking to do anything other than develop a good routine/habit and get my kiddos going as well.

Can't go wrong with Athlean-X. And since you're already into cardio, you don't have to worry about Jeff's (even self-admitted) lack of conditioning in his routines. Personally, I like to do strength programs in the vein of crossfit because it feels like cardio at the same time. For the record though, I do not recommend crossfit specifically. It puts too much emphasis on reps for time which leads to lots of injuries.

I think you'll find that strength training goes a long way to improving your overall physique vs. just cardio. And it will definitely help your hockey game. Stronger lower body is all around useful, and, even in non-contact rec league, having a stronger upper body will make you stronger on the puck. Especially in scrums along the boards.



I haven't run in a month, which has been very frustrating.  Dodgy ankle still, but now that same ankle is a little more tender after my accident, so might be a couple more weeks yet depending any lasting effects.  Been swimming pretty regularly though and weights 5 days a week so still very active.

I've noticed your Strava absence lol. That makes more sense now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 01:37:18 PM
Yeah Rich, it's been frustrating as hell, but I'll get back into it eventually.  Just overdid it and didn't manage my recovery well enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: MetalJunkie on February 28, 2022, 09:46:45 AM
I don’t usually divulge these numbers because they’re at “GODDAMN THAT’S A LOT” levels, but fuck it, I’m happy.

I started making fast progress, then hit a plateau and a minor backslide. Now I’m making progress again.

This time last year I weighed just over 460 pounds. At one point in quarantine I’m pretty sure the scales said 470, but that may have just been part of a normal fluctuation and is not what the doc weighed me at, so I don’t count that when tracking progress. Anyway, I lost a good amount of weight, got down to about 390, then the holidays hit and that’s when I plateaued. I got back up to 400 and that was just two weeks ago. I stepped on the scale, said “fuck that,” and now I’m down to 383 and going strong.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2022, 10:18:48 AM
That's fantastic Tim.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 28, 2022, 10:19:45 AM
I don’t usually divulge these numbers because they’re at “GODDAMN THAT’S A LOT” levels, but fuck it, I’m happy.

I started making fast progress, then hit a plateau and a minor backslide. Now I’m making progress again.

This time last year I weighed just over 460 pounds. At one point in quarantine I’m pretty sure the scales said 470, but that may have just been part of a normal fluctuation and is not what the doc weighed me at, so I don’t count that when tracking progress. Anyway, I lost a good amount of weight, got down to about 390, then the holidays hit and that’s when I plateaued. I got back up to 400 and that was just two weeks ago. I stepped on the scale, said “fuck that,” and now I’m down to 383 and going strong.

Congrats, and thanks for sharing! That's tremendous weight loss.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 28, 2022, 11:21:18 AM
Incredible! Great Work! Keep it up man
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Adami on February 28, 2022, 11:23:09 AM
Okay, so how do I exercise? I hate exercise, don't really have time to join a gym since I work 50 or so hours a week, and just kind of want to wake up in shape.

So what's a way to start that won't immediately make it jump ship?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 28, 2022, 11:34:53 AM
Okay, so how do I exercise? I hate exercise, don't really have time to join a gym since I work 50 or so hours a week, and just kind of want to wake up in shape.

So what's a way to start that won't immediately make it jump ship?
Deck of cards workouts. You can do it with just body weight exercises, it only takes 20-30 min, they're fantastically effective, can be done at your own pace, and they can be done in a very small space.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: faizoff on February 28, 2022, 12:09:20 PM
Okay, so how do I exercise? I hate exercise, don't really have time to join a gym since I work 50 or so hours a week, and just kind of want to wake up in shape.

So what's a way to start that won't immediately make it jump ship?

This isn't for everyone but I used to do T25 and that worked excellent for me. I would do it during my lunch break at home, you can pick any spot. It was 25 mins of various balanced activities that each day hit a different area of muscle groups. It can be a bit intense but I didn't do the full intense version until I got really used to it.

I've been meaning to get back to it and am hoping I will. I had lost 60lbs and that routine just kinda pushed me to eat better and workout more.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2022, 01:00:51 PM
Okay, so how do I exercise? I hate exercise, don't really have time to join a gym since I work 50 or so hours a week, and just kind of want to wake up in shape.

So what's a way to start that won't immediately make it jump ship?
Deck of cards workouts. You can do it with just body weight exercises, it only takes 20-30 min, they're fantastically effective, can be done at your own pace, and they can be done in a very small space.

^ This is a good place to start.

Like I said, a few posts ago, I'm a big Athlean-X fan.  He's got lots of free videos, many are no weights / no equipment required (73 video playlist - Home Workouts & Bodyweight Exercises | No Gym (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRS2DE4P39EdCAYKkWqPfd9b6ZeNodzz2))
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2022, 01:01:10 PM
I don’t usually divulge these numbers because they’re at “GODDAMN THAT’S A LOT” levels, but fuck it, I’m happy.

I started making fast progress, then hit a plateau and a minor backslide. Now I’m making progress again.

This time last year I weighed just over 460 pounds. At one point in quarantine I’m pretty sure the scales said 470, but that may have just been part of a normal fluctuation and is not what the doc weighed me at, so I don’t count that when tracking progress. Anyway, I lost a good amount of weight, got down to about 390, then the holidays hit and that’s when I plateaued. I got back up to 400 and that was just two weeks ago. I stepped on the scale, said “fuck that,” and now I’m down to 383 and going strong.

Tremendous work mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2022, 01:02:27 PM
Chad pimps the shit out if Athlean-X but I understand why.  His no bullshit approach to nutrition and training programs and vids are legit.  Knows his shit and a great channel.  Really backup his recommendation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2022, 01:08:39 PM
Chad pimps the shit out if Athlean-X but I understand why.  His no bullshit approach to nutrition and training programs and vids are legit.  Knows his shit and a great channel.  Really backup his recommendation.

If only I was paid commissions on his subscribers! 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2022, 01:24:35 PM
Chad pimps the shit out if Athlean-X but I understand why.  His no bullshit approach to nutrition and training programs and vids are legit.  Knows his shit and a great channel.  Really backup his recommendation.

If only I was paid commissions on his subscribers!

Haha, you'd be close to retirement I reckon mate!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 04, 2022, 03:15:15 AM
So, to start with sad news, fitness Youtuber Scott Murray passed away few days ago :'( Don't know his age but I think he was in early/mid 20s. I've been following him for a year for food hacks, filling recipes etc. We'll probably never know the real cause of his death but as look at the title and don't neglect rest/recovery. Yeah, exercise and stay healthy but don't neglect sleep and mental health as well.

Lately, I've been thinking about running my first half-marathon (in 35 days). I really enjoy the process, running 3 times a week, long runs are getting longer and it's actually fun. I like running at slow, steady pace more than running fast (that's how I injured myself last year :P ). Also there is organised 5K league in my city, starting next week, 1 race a week for 15 weeks, should be fun.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2022, 03:23:27 AM
So, to start with sad news, fitness Youtuber Scott Murray passed away few days ago :'( Don't know his age but I think he was in early/mid 20s. I've been following him for a year for food hacks, filling recipes etc. We'll probably never know the real cause of his death but as look at the title and don't neglect rest/recovery. Yeah, exercise and stay healthy but don't neglect sleep and mental health as well.

Lately, I've been thinking about running my first half-marathon (in 35 days). I really enjoy the process, running 3 times a week, long runs are getting longer and it's actually fun. I like running at slow, steady pace more than running fast (that's how I injured myself last year :P ). Also there is organised 5K league in my city, starting next week, 1 race a week for 15 weeks, should be fun.

Fuck that's terrible, I've watched a few of his recipe vids, he was so young.

Nice work mate, go after it.  I'm hoping I can slowly get back into my running next week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2022, 03:24:24 AM
I've been just doing my weight sessions, no cardio for the last two weeks but holy fuck I'm getting knocked up.  I can push out similar weights but I'm getting so fatigued and the next day feel so drained and tired.  To be expected I guess but I'll keep going.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Zydar on March 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM
First time entering this thread, so I don't know if it's already been discussed but:

Every time when I've been out running I always get a headache the day after. It's almost like a light version of a hangover. I googled it today and apparently it has to do with not drinking enough water before and after my workout. Anyone else has this issue? I was out running a bit last night after work, and today when I woke up I had a headache and felt a bit "foggy" in the head - it's still not over yet after a few hours. I have high blood pressure, but I take meds for that. Could it be related?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2022, 06:54:07 AM
Zydar. I think I'd be tempted to talk to my physician if I were you. Staying hydrated is certainly important, but your symptoms sounds worse.

Kade. I feel your pain, dude. At this point, I can only string together three, maybe four, days in a row of lifting before I need a couple days off to recuperate. I thought it was because I'm just getting back into it after years off (or perhaps because of my advancing years) but I guess getting knackered is more universal than I thought. I'm also considering that I just need more fuel. I may try replacing my protein intake from meats to vegetables and perhaps throw some more carbs in. I'm still eating a low carb diet (not actually keto) because of my A1C levels. That may be contributing to my tiredness.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 16, 2022, 07:00:01 AM
Unless it was a rather long run,  and you were generally under hydrated all day, i agree with Podaar. Might be worth a visit to the doctor.  I would get light headed from time to time at the end of races due to slightly lower blood pressure, but these were marathons, so that's probably expected.


Kade, glad to see you're back running.  How'd it feel?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 03:32:28 PM
First time entering this thread, so I don't know if it's already been discussed but:

Every time when I've been out running I always get a headache the day after. It's almost like a light version of a hangover. I googled it today and apparently it has to do with not drinking enough water before and after my workout. Anyone else has this issue? I was out running a bit last night after work, and today when I woke up I had a headache and felt a bit "foggy" in the head - it's still not over yet after a few hours. I have high blood pressure, but I take meds for that. Could it be related?

What sort of distances are you running mate?  As the others have said, sounds a bit more than just the running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 03:34:59 PM
Zydar. I think I'd be tempted to talk to my physician if I were you. Staying hydrated is certainly important, but your symptoms sounds worse.

Kade. I feel your pain, dude. At this point, I can only string together three, maybe four, days in a row of lifting before I need a couple days off to recuperate. I thought it was because I'm just getting back into it after years off (or perhaps because of my advancing years) but I guess getting knackered is more universal than I thought. I'm also considering that I just need more fuel. I may try replacing my protein intake from meats to vegetables and perhaps throw some more carbs in. I'm still eating a low carb diet (not actually keto) because of my A1C levels. That may be contributing to my tiredness.

Three to four days of lifting in a row mate is a solid effort, so I wouldn't be too worry about needing a day or two afterwards.  Getting back into the groove could definitely have something to do with it, but definitely lower carbs would play a factor, especially if you are doing a lot of heavy lifting.  I found that out the hard way.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
Unless it was a rather long run,  and you were generally under hydrated all day, i agree with Podaar. Might be worth a visit to the doctor.  I would get light headed from time to time at the end of races due to slightly lower blood pressure, but these were marathons, so that's probably expected.


Kade, glad to see you're back running.  How'd it feel?

Cardiovascular wise it felt good but my hip and ankle still played up a little during the run which resulted in the slower time and today both legs feel toasted!  A little bit annoying and the general tightness and soreness I have even after weeks of no running is a little concerning.  Must bite the bullet and go and see a physio.

I'll have today off and go again Friday or Saturday.  I need to take a gentle approach, not my David Goggins like approach and go hard everyday.  If I break it up, I should be able to slowly work back into a routine.  As I said, the insane hip and ankle tightness is insane and so persistent.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Getting back into the groove could definitely have something to do with it, but definitely lower carbs would play a factor, especially if you are doing a lot of heavy lifting.  I found that out the hard way.

I'd say not heavy lifting. The first set I'll do 12 reps and try to do 12 in each subsequent set. If I make it all the way through 4 sets of 12 reps, I'll stack on more weight next time until I get form breakdown around 8 reps, and then stick with that until I can power through it...then I'll stack on more.

Any recommendations on clean carbs? I won't eat sugar, but I've been throwing in some rice and beans, maybe a little pasta once in a while.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2022, 04:06:51 PM
I need to take a gentle approach, not my David Goggins like approach and go hard everyday.  If I break it up, I should be able to slowly work back into a routine. 

You and me both, brother.  Hoping to get back on the saddle before the end of the month.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 04:09:58 PM
Getting back into the groove could definitely have something to do with it, but definitely lower carbs would play a factor, especially if you are doing a lot of heavy lifting.  I found that out the hard way.

I'd say not heavy lifting. The first set I'll do 12 reps and try to do 12 in each subsequent set. If I make it all the way through 4 sets of 12 reps, I'll stack on more weight next time until I get form breakdown around 8 reps, and then stick with that until I can power through it...then I'll stack on more.

Any recommendations on clean carbs? I won't eat sugar, but I've been throwing in some rice and beans, maybe a little pasta once in a while.

That's still some nice volume mate.  Don't underestimate that.

Oats are my go to.  You can add some protein powder and peanut butter for an amazing meal.  It's almost a daily staple for me.

Rice is my other go to, as you mentioned.  I always opt for sweet potatoes too with meals.  So good.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 06:01:49 PM
I need to take a gentle approach, not my David Goggins like approach and go hard everyday.  If I break it up, I should be able to slowly work back into a routine. 

You and me both, brother.  Hoping to get back on the saddle before the end of the month.

You can do it mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2022, 08:02:07 PM
I love me a good bowl of proatmeal!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 17, 2022, 02:25:17 AM
I might be a more flexible about eating than some of you :lol but my (almost) daily staple breakfast is oatmeal, dark chocolate, vanilla whey, blueberries and milk.

BTW that 5k running league started last week, today's second round. First round I run just how I hoped, in 28:12 (5:38 min/km or around 9 min/mile I guess). I'm training for my first half-marathon so I never run fast in training. Either way, If I feel good today I might try to go for a bit better result, 27:30 maybe.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Spiritus on March 17, 2022, 04:49:12 AM
I gotta read more of this thread and get motivated. I am in the worst shape i have ever been. If not for my physical job I don't think I would be moving at all lol.
And in 2 months I have my trip to the Adirondacks to bag some more peaks. I worry (but also look forward to  ;)) we will manage one mountain and spend the rest of the week in front of firepit and the many restaurants/bars in Lake Placid.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2022, 05:17:59 AM
I might be a more flexible about eating than some of you :lol but my (almost) daily staple breakfast is oatmeal, dark chocolate, vanilla whey, blueberries and milk.

BTW that 5k running league started last week, today's second round. First round I run just how I hoped, in 28:12 (5:38 min/km or around 9 min/mile I guess). I'm training for my first half-marathon so I never run fast in training. Either way, If I feel good today I might try to go for a bit better result, 27:30 maybe.

Aiming for 5 and a half minutes a km is a solid and impressive target mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 17, 2022, 05:22:32 AM
I might be a more flexible about eating than some of you :lol but my (almost) daily staple breakfast is oatmeal, dark chocolate, vanilla whey, blueberries and milk.

BTW that 5k running league started last week, today's second round. First round I run just how I hoped, in 28:12 (5:38 min/km or around 9 min/mile I guess). I'm training for my first half-marathon so I never run fast in training. Either way, If I feel good today I might try to go for a bit better result, 27:30 maybe.

Aiming for 5 and a half minutes a km is a solid and impressive target mate.
For a 5k? Or did you mean a half marathon? My goal for a half is to finish it :lol
5k PR of mine is around 5:00 (from last year) but I was injured so I won't run fast too fast.

I gotta read more of this thread and get motivated. I am in the worst shape i have ever been. If not for my physical job I don't think I would be moving at all lol.
And in 2 months I have my trip to the Adirondacks to bag some more peaks. I worry (but also look forward to  ;)) we will manage one mountain and spend the rest of the week in front of firepit and the many restaurants/bars in Lake Placid.
I live in completely flat part of the country and since I lived in the hilly part for 15 years (and my family is there still) I miss some hills.

BTW there is an organised (virtual app) Wings for life run in my city. I might go, it's for a great cause, 100% of entry fee goes for spinal cord research. It's got an interesting format as well. No finish line, there is a catcher car.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on March 17, 2022, 06:51:56 AM
I started out the year with a plan to lose my Covid 20... or more... and work on speed. So far I've lost 8lbs and went from 1230avg min per mi to 1130. That was the easy minute for me to do. Now its gonna get hard lol As I've gone through this process, I've kinda also added a goal to hit 1132 miles in a year - this would be an avg of a 5k a day. I've been hitting this already, just waiting to see how my body handles it. Might be a stupid idea lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Spiritus on March 17, 2022, 02:51:41 PM
I might be a more flexible about eating than some of you :lol but my (almost) daily staple breakfast is oatmeal, dark chocolate, vanilla whey, blueberries and milk.

BTW that 5k running league started last week, today's second round. First round I run just how I hoped, in 28:12 (5:38 min/km or around 9 min/mile I guess). I'm training for my first half-marathon so I never run fast in training. Either way, If I feel good today I might try to go for a bit better result, 27:30 maybe.

Aiming for 5 and a half minutes a km is a solid and impressive target mate.
For a 5k? Or did you mean a half marathon? My goal for a half is to finish it :lol
5k PR of mine is around 5:00 (from last year) but I was injured so I won't run fast too fast.

I gotta read more of this thread and get motivated. I am in the worst shape i have ever been. If not for my physical job I don't think I would be moving at all lol.
And in 2 months I have my trip to the Adirondacks to bag some more peaks. I worry (but also look forward to  ;)) we will manage one mountain and spend the rest of the week in front of firepit and the many restaurants/bars in Lake Placid.
I live in completely flat part of the country and since I lived in the hilly part for 15 years (and my family is there still) I miss some hills.

BTW there is an organised (virtual app) Wings for life run in my city. I might go, it's for a great cause, 100% of entry fee goes for spinal cord research. It's got an interesting format as well. No finish line, there is a catcher car.

I live in Southern Ontario Canada. It is all flat. (outside of some great areas in the Niagara escarpment that runs all through southern ontario, but tis no mountains)
I love mountains, it's almost obsession. The Adis are the closest mountains that I can drive to in a day (8hr). Will be my 7th time going since I found out about them 11 years ago.  Fell in love with the area, and try to go annually. Covid cancelled that the last 2 years so i can't wait to get back.
So ya, got 2 months and try to get some hikes in around here and not make the week in mountains wasted because I am too out of shape.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2022, 03:07:43 PM
I live in Southern Ontario Canada.

Whereabouts?  I'm in Fort Erie.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on March 17, 2022, 03:22:48 PM
Yeah, a few carbs made a huge difference. Before my workout this morning I had coffee with two tablespoons of agave nectar, a half bagel with (avert your eyes Kade) half an avocado. I did 35 minutes of light cardio to warmup and my entire arms and shoulder routine. When I got home, I had a high fiber tortilla with two slices of pastrami and the other half of the avocado. All told, I probably had less than 60 g of carbs with approximately 15 g of fiber to offset it some.

My energy this afternoon is considerably better than my previous workout days! So mission accomplished.

I'm gonna splurge tomorrow and have a banana before heading to the gym. I haven't had a banana in two years! I'm looking forward to it.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Spiritus on March 17, 2022, 03:31:57 PM
I live in Southern Ontario Canada.

Whereabouts?  I'm in Fort Erie.

Cambridge, after 25 years I moved a long long way from ... Kitchener lol. We pick at the Bruce Trail all the time. Usually always north. Milton to Collingwood and everything between. Bruce Penninsula usually on weekends where we book a camp site or motel for a night or 2.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2022, 04:56:01 PM
Yeah, a few carbs made a huge difference. Before my workout this morning I had coffee with two tablespoons of agave nectar, a half bagel with (avert your eyes Kade) half an avocado. I did 35 minutes of light cardio to warmup and my entire arms and shoulder routine. When I got home, I had a high fiber tortilla with two slices of pastrami and the other half of the avocado. All told, I probably had less than 60 g of carbs with approximately 15 g of fiber to offset it some.

My energy this afternoon is considerably better than my previous workout days! So mission accomplished.

I'm gonna splurge tomorrow and have a banana before heading to the gym. I haven't had a banana in two years! I'm looking forward to it.  :lol

I didn't avert my eyes.....

Nice though mate, yeah a few extra carbs here and there can make a world of difference.  Just see how you go.  You can cut them back again and then just add a bit more extra in when you feel like you're struggling again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2022, 04:57:46 PM
I might be a more flexible about eating than some of you :lol but my (almost) daily staple breakfast is oatmeal, dark chocolate, vanilla whey, blueberries and milk.

BTW that 5k running league started last week, today's second round. First round I run just how I hoped, in 28:12 (5:38 min/km or around 9 min/mile I guess). I'm training for my first half-marathon so I never run fast in training. Either way, If I feel good today I might try to go for a bit better result, 27:30 maybe.

Aiming for 5 and a half minutes a km is a solid and impressive target mate.
For a 5k? Or did you mean a half marathon? My goal for a half is to finish it :lol
5k PR of mine is around 5:00 (from last year) but I was injured so I won't run fast too fast.

I gotta read more of this thread and get motivated. I am in the worst shape i have ever been. If not for my physical job I don't think I would be moving at all lol.
And in 2 months I have my trip to the Adirondacks to bag some more peaks. I worry (but also look forward to  ;)) we will manage one mountain and spend the rest of the week in front of firepit and the many restaurants/bars in Lake Placid.
I live in completely flat part of the country and since I lived in the hilly part for 15 years (and my family is there still) I miss some hills.

BTW there is an organised (virtual app) Wings for life run in my city. I might go, it's for a great cause, 100% of entry fee goes for spinal cord research. It's got an interesting format as well. No finish line, there is a catcher car.

I meant as a general 5km time for say a 5km.  5 minutes flat is an awesome time though.  That became around my norm before I injured myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 18, 2022, 01:48:22 AM
Tnx. I think it's fine but still room to improve.

To update: improved my 5k to 5:23 min/km actually. There were many great runners and they pulled me with them. I started fast and figured I can keep that pace up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2022, 04:55:44 AM
Tnx. I think it's fine but still room to improve.

To update: improved my 5k to 5:23 min/km actually. There were many great runners and they pulled me with them. I started fast and figured I can keep that pace up.

Solid mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on March 24, 2022, 08:28:42 AM
Had a good leg day at the gym this morning, and I also got the bonus workout of exercising my will!

The gym I go to is a community facility that is run by my local county. That means the patrons are primarily old men trying desperately to stave off crippling age, with the occasional middle-aged person going through the motions of shedding some unwanted weight. The room is never crowded and access to machines, or free-weights is pretty easy and chill.

This morning there was a young woman, mid-twenties, going through her weight training. She was fit and trim. Now, I'm a firm believer that anyone should be able to do their workout without having to get scrutinized by old assholes like me, but yoga pants on Yanet Garcia level trunk is a difficult thing to avert my eyes from. I think I did a good job of ignoring her and focusing on what I was doing, so I don't think I made her uncomfortable. When Mrs. P and I were leaving, she gave Mrs. P a nod in recognition so I'll take that as a good sign.

Two workouts in one!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2022, 10:21:28 AM
Started to get back at it, and (piss me off), 2 months off really killed my gains.  I mean really.  I super-set'd pushups with Dumbbell Arnold Presses (20lbs).  Pushups weren't a problem, but on the 4th and final set of the presses, I was struggling.

Just trying to ease my way into an exercise routine... 10 mins stretching; 15-20 mins of lifting; 30 mins of cardio; 6-8 mins of abs.  I think I've got to give it a month or so before I get back into a real routine/program.

Glad to be back at it, but extremely disappointed I lapsed in the first place.   :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 05:19:21 PM
Started to get back at it, and (piss me off), 2 months off really killed my gains.  I mean really.  I super-set'd pushups with Dumbbell Arnold Presses (20lbs).  Pushups weren't a problem, but on the 4th and final set of the presses, I was struggling.

Just trying to ease my way into an exercise routine... 10 mins stretching; 15-20 mins of lifting; 30 mins of cardio; 6-8 mins of abs.  I think I've got to give it a month or so before I get back into a real routine/program.

Glad to be back at it, but extremely disappointed I lapsed in the first place.   :-\

The more important thing is that you've kicked yourself up the ass and gotten back into it mate.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 08, 2022, 03:27:13 AM
It's my first half-marathon tomorrow, wish me luck! My only goal is to finish it but I'll aim for 6:00 pace and see/feel how much I can hold out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2022, 04:30:46 AM
Good luck Tomi!!  Go get 'em killer.

I've got a nice case of DOMS this morning - lots of squats and lunges yesterday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on April 08, 2022, 04:47:38 AM
I've got a nice case of DOMS this morning - lots of squats and lunges yesterday.

Same, but it's in me pecs and lats.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: ReaperKK on April 08, 2022, 06:39:41 AM
It's my first half-marathon tomorrow, wish me luck! My only goal is to finish it but I'll aim for 6:00 pace and see/feel how much I can hold out.

Good luck!

Good luck Tomi!!  Go get 'em killer.

I've got a nice case of DOMS this morning - lots of squats and lunges yesterday.

Hurts so good?

I started off strong lifting this year, that was until I got a hernia :/. Getting surgery later this month but I'm dying to get back into it. In the meantime I've been walking a bunch and have lost about 15 pounds since the start of the year. I'm at my lowest weight in probably 5 years.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2022, 08:19:58 AM
Good on ya, Kay.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
It's my first half-marathon tomorrow, wish me luck! My only goal is to finish it but I'll aim for 6:00 pace and see/feel how much I can hold out.

Go and crush it mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 08, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
It's my first half-marathon tomorrow, wish me luck! My only goal is to finish it but I'll aim for 6:00 pace and see/feel how much I can hold out.

Good Luck Man!

I'm certain you'll finish if you're eying a 6:00 pace. That's a heck of a pace which would indicate you're in great shape! I hope you get your goal!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on April 08, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
Good luck Tomi! I'm happy if I drive at a 6:00 pace.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 08, 2022, 03:12:28 PM
Thank you all! I'll probably start conservative and speed up if I feel like it. I was able to do 10k with 5:42 pace 2 weeks ago, and it was just a training, not a race.
It's min/km, just to be sure :lol in min/mile it's about 9:39
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2022, 03:37:42 PM
Thank you all! I'll probably start conservative and speed up if I feel like it. I was able to do 10k with 5:42 pace 2 weeks ago, and it was just a training, not a race.
It's min/km, just to be sure :lol in min/mile it's about 9:39

Solid mate.  I've done a couple of half marathon distances just for fun and was able to get around 5:30 pace.  You'll easily crack 6 minutes, especially if it is a proper race type event.  You'll be surprised, if you've done 10km, usually 10-15km isn't that much harder, but once you hit around 17-18km that's when shit gets real lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 08, 2022, 03:45:36 PM
I've done 16 km for training few weeks ago. It is in most half marathon training plans, if you can do 16, you can probably do another 5.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2022, 03:51:20 PM
I've done 16 km for training few weeks ago. It is in most half marathon training plans, if you can do 16, you can probably do another 5.

Definitely.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 11, 2022, 09:46:51 AM
It's my first half-marathon tomorrow, wish me luck! My only goal is to finish it but I'll aim for 6:00 pace and see/feel how much I can hold out.

Dude, it's been two days! Where the hell is the update? :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 11, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
I'm still dead :lol I finished it but although I was at around 6:00 until 17 km, I had to walk a portion of last 4 kms due to awful pain on the left side of abdomen. Finished in 2 hours and 12 minutes. I'm glad I finished but I'm not happy with the result. The good thing is, I don't think I can do worse next time :biggrin: have to work on my nutrition and sleep more.
All in all, it was alright until km 16 (as wolfking said before), after that only pain :biggrin: but somehow I managed to finish last 500m strong and crossed the finish line with nice pace.
Next stop is Wings for life run in 4 weeks. As I said before, it is a different kind of a race, you run until catcher car gets you :biggrin: I plan on running for about 16 km, need pace 5:59 for that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2022, 04:45:54 PM
I'm still dead :lol I finished it but although I was at around 6:00 until 17 km, I had to walk a portion of last 4 kms due to awful pain on the left side of abdomen. Finished in 2 hours and 12 minutes. I'm glad I finished but I'm not happy with the result. The good thing is, I don't think I can do worse next time :biggrin: have to work on my nutrition and sleep more.
All in all, it was alright until km 16 (as wolfking said before), after that only pain :biggrin: but somehow I managed to finish last 500m strong and crossed the finish line with nice pace.
Next stop is Wings for life run in 4 weeks. As I said before, it is a different kind of a race, you run until catcher car gets you :biggrin: I plan on running for about 16 km, need pace 5:59 for that.

WTF?!

Well done on your effort regardless mate, that's still a decent enough time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 12, 2022, 04:18:44 AM
Thanks!
Don't know if I explained race format well, here's a 2019 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7D1vAzz-E
I'll be participating in virtual run and everyone can too. The cool thing is everyone is running at the same time, for me it's 1 PM, in Australia it's 9 PM (I think).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2022, 04:28:58 AM
Thanks!
Don't know if I explained race format well, here's a 2019 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7D1vAzz-E
I'll be participating in virtual run and everyone can too. The cool thing is everyone is running at the same time, for me it's 1 PM, in Australia it's 9 PM (I think).

Wow, that's very cool!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 02, 2022, 01:40:13 PM
Here goes something that I just started hearing about for cognitive fitness. They are called Lion's Mane mushrooms.


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They are supposed to be good for memory in general (possibly help with alzheimer's), overall brain function and nerve repair. Anyone else ever try these are know about them? I just started trying them out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2022, 01:50:24 PM
never heard of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2022, 02:57:06 PM
never heard of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 02, 2022, 03:06:38 PM
never heard of it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 02, 2022, 03:09:22 PM
In all honesty, I put limited stock in most natural remedies; although with fungi I could see them having a tangible benefit for something cognitive related. Given what psybicillin (not bothering to look up the correct spelling) can do, I've no doubt other mushrooms can do all kinds of things to the brain.

Phoneix, have you tried them and seen some results?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 02, 2022, 07:00:14 PM
A few months ago I had bought them for my grandfather since he was having nerve pain/numbness and I figured it was worth a try.

He ended up not wanting to try it so I did for a week for the hell of it and it was pretty interesting. It was like having the "awakeness" and "focus" of a cup of coffee but none of the jitters. My mood was more optimistic as well.

Everything felt very "on point" and ultimately I felt perhaps a bit too enthusiastic to get things done  :lol

So I just threw them in the drawer and stumbled upon them again today as i was cleaning.

One other really wild thing I experienced was very vivid, lucid dreams. usually dreams are so fleeting, so it was kinda cool to not only be aware you are dreaming, but have time to wander around. Very surreal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: crazy climber dude on May 07, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
A few months ago I had bought them for my grandfather since he was having nerve pain/numbness and I figured it was worth a try.

He ended up not wanting to try it so I did for a week for the hell of it and it was pretty interesting. It was like having the "awakeness" and "focus" of a cup of coffee but none of the jitters. My mood was more optimistic as well.

Everything felt very "on point" and ultimately I felt perhaps a bit too enthusiastic to get things done  :lol

So I just threw them in the drawer and stumbled upon them again today as i was cleaning.

One other really wild thing I experienced was very vivid, lucid dreams. usually dreams are so fleeting, so it was kinda cool to not only be aware you are dreaming, but have time to wander around. Very surreal
This is the Lion's Mane to which you are referring? If so, beyond the dreams....do you feel like it helped you get a longer, deeper sleep accordingly?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 07, 2022, 12:48:44 PM
Yeah, all that was regarding the Lion's Mane.

It may help with sleep, but I'm not a good person to ask. I work weird hours and rarely if every sleep well or consistently. All I experienced was vivid and longer dreams.

On a side note, I just took it daily for a week. For me, it basically was acting like an anti-depressant. My mood is usually cynical, grumpy or indifferent. This week it was up and I was more comfortable in public around people (which is very nice). And man, the confidence was WAY up.

Just like the last time I took it, it was a little too much. Part of that may be that I'm just not used to that new mindset, but regardless I am gonna cut the dose in half see If I can get a nice middleground. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: crazy climber dude on May 08, 2022, 09:19:20 AM
Yeah, all that was regarding the Lion's Mane.

It may help with sleep, but I'm not a good person to ask. I work weird hours and rarely if every sleep well or consistently. All I experienced was vivid and longer dreams.

On a side note, I just took it daily for a week. For me, it basically was acting like an anti-depressant. My mood is usually cynical, grumpy or indifferent. This week it was up and I was more comfortable in public around people (which is very nice). And man, the confidence was WAY up.

Just like the last time I took it, it was a little too much. Part of that may be that I'm just not used to that new mindset, but regardless I am gonna cut the dose in half see If I can get a nice middleground.
Nice. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2022, 03:24:04 PM
So, between some really bad depression in Feb/March, trying to ease into my routine in April, and now COVID... this year has largely been a write-off.  I've lost all the gains I had over the past couple of years.  Still likely to be another 2-3 weeks before I've completely kicked the COVID after-effects, so I've revised my goals now to get back to where I was last year, by the end of 2024 (about when I turn 52).  Slightly demoralized to fall so far back, but I'll just clear the slate, and start over again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2022, 05:55:38 PM
So, between some really bad depression in Feb/March, trying to ease into my routine in April, and now COVID... this year has largely been a write-off.  I've lost all the gains I had over the past couple of years.  Still likely to be another 2-3 weeks before I've completely kicked the COVID after-effects, so I've revised my goals now to get back to where I was last year, by the end of 2024 (about when I turn 52).  Slightly demoralized to fall so far back, but I'll just clear the slate, and start over again.

I tried to turn lifting while recovering from COVID into a bit of a challenge, but the first week was tough and then after that it started getting better each day.

That all fucking sucks though man.  Like always though, it won't take you long to get back to it.  Still a second half of the year to make up for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2022, 06:02:40 PM
Me personally, I've been lifting quite well 5 days a week and swimming Saturday and Sunday mornings.  My lifting has been consistent and on odd days I'll do higher intensity lifting mixed with bursts of rowing to get the heart rate up.  Kind of like a HIIT session mixed with cardio and weights.  I always make sure going back to a set after a row I'm maintaining the weight though, good stuff.

The swimming I get up super early around 4.30am both Saturday and Sunday to go and do around 2.5-3.0km each session and get out before any staff arrive for the day.  It's fucking relaxing to drive there and swim in darkness, get out, feel good, grab a coffee and drive home while the sun is coming up knowing I've done my cardio, love it.  I'm hating my job, but this is a major perk.  So I've been training 7 days a week.  Monday morning now tough, and I'm buggered, probably need to take a day off next weekend.  My diet needs major improving too.  I eat like shit and it's affecting me in various ways....

As for running, I've had a major problem with my whole right leg.  The ankle issue is somewhat okay but the overall tightness in my glute, hammy, hip is just relentless.  I stretch and roll in the morning and at night but I simply can't run and won't even try.  I went and saw a physio who was fucking useless and gave me stretches I already knew.  Went to my chiro who I haven't seen for a couple of years and he put my hip back in which helped a little but not sure what to do now.  I guess I'll just keep stretching and rolling.  It's getting there but at snails pace, so frustrating and I miss the running badly.  Luckily I have other options but wanted to get more serious and a massive set back.  I probably could say fuck it and go for a run, but the aftermath isn't worth it. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2022, 06:07:55 PM
Me personally, I've been lifting quite well 5 days a week and swimming Saturday and Sunday mornings.  My lifting has been consistent and on odd days I'll do higher intensity lifting mixed with bursts of rowing to get the heart rate up.  Kind of like a HIIT session mixed with cardio and weights.  I always make sure going back to a set after a row I'm maintaining the weight though, good stuff.

The swimming I get up super early around 4.30am both Saturday and Sunday to go and do around 2.5-3.0km each session and get out before any staff arrive for the day.  It's fucking relaxing to drive there and swim in darkness, get out, feel good, grab a coffee and drive home while the sun is coming up knowing I've done my cardio, love it.  I'm hating my job, but this is a major perk.  So I've been training 7 days a week.  Monday morning now tough, and I'm buggered, probably need to take a day off next weekend.  My diet needs major improving too.  I eat like shit and it's affecting me in various ways....

As for running, I've had a major problem with my whole right leg.  The ankle issue is somewhat okay but the overall tightness in my glute, hammy, hip is just relentless.  I stretch and roll in the morning and at night but I simply can't run and won't even try.  I went and saw a physio who was fucking useless and gave me stretches I already knew.  Went to my chiro who I haven't seen for a couple of years and he put my hip back in which helped a little but not sure what to do now.  I guess I'll just keep stretching and rolling.  It's getting there but at snails pace, so frustrating and I miss the running badly.  Luckily I have other options but wanted to get more serious and a massive set back.  I probably could say fuck it and go for a run, but the aftermath isn't worth it.

3 key words right there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2022, 06:32:13 PM
Fair.  I'm learning haha.  It takes me a while though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2022, 06:34:43 AM
 :omg:

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/mechanic-smashes-world-record-for-most-push-ups-in-an-hour-a-whopping-3183-all-while-in-pain/

Quote
Daniel Scali took on the Herculean task in April and managed to surpass the previous total by 128—cranking out 51 push-ups every minute for a solid hour.

I mean, it's not a full range-of-motion pushup, but still. Damn
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 01, 2022, 11:10:27 AM
:omg:

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/mechanic-smashes-world-record-for-most-push-ups-in-an-hour-a-whopping-3183-all-while-in-pain/

Quote
Daniel Scali took on the Herculean task in April and managed to surpass the previous total by 128—cranking out 51 push-ups every minute for a solid hour.

I mean, it's not a full range-of-motion pushup, but still. Damn
He looks like a guy that does 3,000+ push ups in an hour,  every single hour lol. Dude's jacked
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on July 29, 2022, 03:45:51 PM
Ok, I just started lifting weights to go along with my endless cardio sessions and FUCK I'm so sore!  And I started with light free weights.  I feel like crying and I'm only in my 2nd week.

There simply is not enough Advil.   :-[

I just felt like complaining.  I already feel better.  K-thx  :P
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 29, 2022, 04:31:45 PM
Ok, I just started lifting weights to go along with my endless cardio sessions and FUCK I'm so sore!  And I started with light free weights.  I feel like crying and I'm only in my 2nd week.

There simply is not enough Advil.   :-[

I just felt like complaining.  I already feel better.  K-thx  :P

Welcome to the club! Strength training is an integral part of overall fitness, so i try to get 2-3 sessions per week. Although it definitely still takes a back seat to cardio most of the time lol. At least the hurt is a good hurt!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2022, 05:39:57 PM
Man, I have been so off the wagon the last month.  Weather has been too nice, and with the landscape renovations we had done, I didn't really have the time to be at it first thing in the morning when the crew was here at 7am every day.  They're done now, so I'm gonna get back on the horse starting Monday (I'm away tomorrow/Sunday at Nick's wedding).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2022, 08:50:08 PM
Ok, I just started lifting weights to go along with my endless cardio sessions and FUCK I'm so sore!  And I started with light free weights.  I feel like crying and I'm only in my 2nd week.

There simply is not enough Advil.   :-[

I just felt like complaining.  I already feel better.  K-thx  :P

Good stuff Harmony, that's definitely a good sore, embrace.  As Rich said, strength training is so important.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2022, 08:55:35 PM
So, I'm still hitting the weights 5 arvos a week.  I'm finding I'm liking a lot more body weight calisthenics movements and hitting them inbetween the weight sets.  I feel it's improving my core strength more.

Anyway, I've sorted my leg out finally myself which is great and been running again for quite a few weeks now.  I'm hitting runs on weekends outdoors but through the week I'm attacking the treadmill.  Got myself a fitbit watch and started from stratch basically and doing some work under the maffetone method.  Slow running at a controlled heart rate which eventually will help you run faster for longer.  I'm hitting the treadmill after every weights session usually between 5-8km.  My target heart rate is between 140-145bpm and when I started I had to run a 9kmph for a full 5km.  Already, I can run a 5km at that heart rate zone at 10.5kmph, so it's definitely working.

Did a slower 18km run this morning out on the streets.  Starting to really build my threshold and endurance levels.  Just have to keep up the stretching and rolling.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
Nice.  I'm envious.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2022, 09:07:37 PM
Nice.  I'm envious.

You can do it mate!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 04, 2022, 09:11:09 AM
Question for all of you weight lifters.  How do you know when it is time to increase your weights?  I feel like while I'm exercising, I could lift a bit heavier while still keeping my form but it seriously takes me a good 48 hours to recover without feeling so sore.  ATM I'm alternating cardio one day and shorter cardio with free weights the next day.  I am taking 1 day off a week for full recovery.

So my dilemma is feeling ready to bump up a little but being scared of more soreness (which interferes with my ability to do other things like get a good night's sleep!)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 04, 2022, 10:17:17 AM
Question for all of you weight lifters.  How do you know when it is time to increase your weights?  I feel like while I'm exercising, I could lift a bit heavier while still keeping my form but it seriously takes me a good 48 hours to recover without feeling so sore.  ATM I'm alternating cardio one day and shorter cardio with free weights the next day.  I am taking 1 day off a week for full recovery.

So my dilemma is feeling ready to bump up a little but being scared of more soreness (which interferes with my ability to do other things like get a good night's sleep!)

Soreness is pretty much just a part of exercise. That is, after all, how the muscles are growing. As for when to bump up the weight, it depends on your goals (size, strength, tone - low, med, high reps respectively). Once you can consistently perform more reps than your target range, you should up the weights accordingly.

As I've discovered, and fully expected, my cardio regiment kills any strength gains. I haven't significantly increased my weights in 2 to 3 years despite lifting ~3 days per week. I put in a good 7 hours of cardio each week, and sometimes quite a bit more on weeks I long ride (i.e. 3+ hrs). At this point I pretty much lift to maintain strength, and the rest is for esthetics.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 04, 2022, 10:40:23 AM
Thanks for that.  I guess I was hoping the soreness would eventually ease up.    *crying*

My goals are for gradual weight loss of about 20 pounds while toning and getting stronger.  I realize muscle gain can make losing numbers on the scale take longer and I'm fine with that.  As I am aging, I'm really just want to set myself up for having the ability to stay active as long as I physically can.

Along with my weight loss goal is a commitment to improved sleep because these 2 factors are completely intertwined.  The soreness is making sleep harder, not easier.  So I guess I will get back to taking Advil every day again.  *sigh*
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2022, 11:53:10 AM
Thanks for that.  I guess I was hoping the soreness would eventually ease up.    *crying*

My goals are for gradual weight loss of about 20 pounds while toning and getting stronger.  I realize muscle gain can make losing numbers on the scale take longer and I'm fine with that.  As I am aging, I'm really just want to set myself up for having the ability to stay active as long as I physically can.

Along with my weight loss goal is a commitment to improved sleep because these 2 factors are completely intertwined.  The soreness is making sleep harder, not easier.  So I guess I will get back to taking Advil every day again.  *sigh*

It will.  Your body will adapt to a certain degree.  Jump in a cold shower, and the first minute is rough.  Then you get used to it.  Same with lifting - probably a month or so of more-than-usual DOMS, but it won't always be as bad as it is when you first start out.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 04, 2022, 11:56:33 AM
Thanks for that.  I guess I was hoping the soreness would eventually ease up.    *crying*

My goals are for gradual weight loss of about 20 pounds while toning and getting stronger.  I realize muscle gain can make losing numbers on the scale take longer and I'm fine with that.  As I am aging, I'm really just want to set myself up for having the ability to stay active as long as I physically can.

Along with my weight loss goal is a commitment to improved sleep because these 2 factors are completely intertwined.  The soreness is making sleep harder, not easier.  So I guess I will get back to taking Advil every day again.  *sigh*

It will.  Your body will adapt to a certain degree.  Jump in a cold shower, and the first minute is rough.  Then you get used to it.  Same with lifting - probably a month or so of more-than-usual DOMS, but it won't always be as bad as it is when you first start out.

God I hope so!  I feel like a grandma going up a flight of stairs.  LoL

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2022, 12:00:29 PM
Thanks for that.  I guess I was hoping the soreness would eventually ease up.    *crying*

My goals are for gradual weight loss of about 20 pounds while toning and getting stronger.  I realize muscle gain can make losing numbers on the scale take longer and I'm fine with that.  As I am aging, I'm really just want to set myself up for having the ability to stay active as long as I physically can.

Along with my weight loss goal is a commitment to improved sleep because these 2 factors are completely intertwined.  The soreness is making sleep harder, not easier.  So I guess I will get back to taking Advil every day again.  *sigh*

It will.  Your body will adapt to a certain degree.  Jump in a cold shower, and the first minute is rough.  Then you get used to it.  Same with lifting - probably a month or so of more-than-usual DOMS, but it won't always be as bad as it is when you first start out.

God I hope so!  I feel like a grandma going up a flight of stairs.  LoL

Even for lifting veterans, a particularly gruelling session will make ya crumble.  Especially taxing when it's from leg-day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 04, 2022, 02:48:43 PM
Yup. Did a crossfit session a couple days ago with many a deadlift. I'm still having trouble getting out of chairs lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2022, 03:10:28 PM
Yup. Did a crossfit session a couple days ago with many a deadlift. I'm still having trouble getting out of chairs lol

The worst is getting on and off the throne!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2022, 03:36:46 PM
Thanks for that.  I guess I was hoping the soreness would eventually ease up.    *crying*

My goals are for gradual weight loss of about 20 pounds while toning and getting stronger.  I realize muscle gain can make losing numbers on the scale take longer and I'm fine with that.  As I am aging, I'm really just want to set myself up for having the ability to stay active as long as I physically can.

Along with my weight loss goal is a commitment to improved sleep because these 2 factors are completely intertwined.  The soreness is making sleep harder, not easier.  So I guess I will get back to taking Advil every day again.  *sigh*

It will.  Your body will adapt to a certain degree.  Jump in a cold shower, and the first minute is rough.  Then you get used to it.  Same with lifting - probably a month or so of more-than-usual DOMS, but it won't always be as bad as it is when you first start out.

God I hope so!  I feel like a grandma going up a flight of stairs.  LoL

That will ease up, but it's a sign you're doing it right.  I actually love now when I'm able to push myself a bit harder to feel that soreness the next day.  Once you feel comfortable with the weight you're doing and 10-15 reps I think feels less taxing and you're able to go past that rep range and not hit failure, bump it up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2022, 03:40:21 PM
Question for all of you weight lifters.  How do you know when it is time to increase your weights?  I feel like while I'm exercising, I could lift a bit heavier while still keeping my form but it seriously takes me a good 48 hours to recover without feeling so sore.  ATM I'm alternating cardio one day and shorter cardio with free weights the next day.  I am taking 1 day off a week for full recovery.

So my dilemma is feeling ready to bump up a little but being scared of more soreness (which interferes with my ability to do other things like get a good night's sleep!)

Soreness is pretty much just a part of exercise. That is, after all, how the muscles are growing. As for when to bump up the weight, it depends on your goals (size, strength, tone - low, med, high reps respectively). Once you can consistently perform more reps than your target range, you should up the weights accordingly.

As I've discovered, and fully expected, my cardio regiment kills any strength gains. I haven't significantly increased my weights in 2 to 3 years despite lifting ~3 days per week. I put in a good 7 hours of cardio each week, and sometimes quite a bit more on weeks I long ride (i.e. 3+ hrs). At this point I pretty much lift to maintain strength, and the rest is for esthetics.

It's hard to find a balance hey.  My main goal now too is to maintain strength and lifts.  Running is more my focus now and the weights do suffer but I just make sure I get through the minimum to maintain.  The recovery to be able to perform both most days of the week is tough.  I stopped taking pre-workout but have ordered some again for those down days.

When I lost heaps of weight poorly the first time I did it wrong, and my strength decreased a lot, along with muscle.  I think with any heavy cardio routine, maintaining what you can do in the weight room is key.  Once you see a drop in lifts, something is wrong and you need to fix ASAP.

That 100+K ride you did the other day was mighty impressive also mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 04, 2022, 03:54:21 PM
Thanks for that.  I guess I was hoping the soreness would eventually ease up.    *crying*

My goals are for gradual weight loss of about 20 pounds while toning and getting stronger.  I realize muscle gain can make losing numbers on the scale take longer and I'm fine with that.  As I am aging, I'm really just want to set myself up for having the ability to stay active as long as I physically can.

Along with my weight loss goal is a commitment to improved sleep because these 2 factors are completely intertwined.  The soreness is making sleep harder, not easier.  So I guess I will get back to taking Advil every day again.  *sigh*

It will.  Your body will adapt to a certain degree.  Jump in a cold shower, and the first minute is rough.  Then you get used to it.  Same with lifting - probably a month or so of more-than-usual DOMS, but it won't always be as bad as it is when you first start out.

God I hope so!  I feel like a grandma going up a flight of stairs.  LoL

That will ease up, but it's a sign you're doing it right.  I actually love now when I'm able to push myself a bit harder to feel that soreness the next day.  Once you feel comfortable with the weight you're doing and 10-15 reps I think feels less taxing and you're able to go past that rep range and not hit failure, bump it up.

Random thought as I go to hit the treadmill - I'm both stronger than I thought AND wimpier than I thought.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 04, 2022, 04:05:38 PM
Yup. Did a crossfit session a couple days ago with many a deadlift. I'm still having trouble getting out of chairs lol

The worst is getting on and off the throne!
That's exactly what i meant by 'chair' lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2022, 04:38:32 PM
Yup. Did a crossfit session a couple days ago with many a deadlift. I'm still having trouble getting out of chairs lol

The worst is getting on and off the throne!
That's exactly what i meant by 'chair' lol

Are you DTFing and riding at the same time!?  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 04, 2022, 05:54:11 PM
Yup. Did a crossfit session a couple days ago with many a deadlift. I'm still having trouble getting out of chairs lol

The worst is getting on and off the throne!
That's exactly what i meant by 'chair' lol

Are you DTFing and riding at the same time!?  :lol
Nah lol. DTF in the locker room at work, quick ride home,  DTF in the garage whilst racking my bike. Using my phone while riding at those speeds would be a poor decision for my phone,  myself, or very likely both
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2022, 05:57:25 PM
Yup. Did a crossfit session a couple days ago with many a deadlift. I'm still having trouble getting out of chairs lol

The worst is getting on and off the throne!
That's exactly what i meant by 'chair' lol

Are you DTFing and riding at the same time!?  :lol
Nah lol. DTF in the locker room at work, quick ride home,  DTF in the garage whilst racking my bike. Using my phone while riding at those speeds would be a poor decision for my phone,  myself, or very likely both

That's still some nice DTFing multitasking.  I thought about DTFing while running but it too would probably end badly.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Implode on August 08, 2022, 12:00:53 PM
Don't post here very often, but want to contribute a bit more. So fitness update!

My main source of exercise is dance games, specifically 4 panel stamina. For those who don't know (aka everyone) it's basically maintaining sustained fast movement for long periods of times. Like running but lower impact, and along with running you can have songs that feel like sprints and others that are marathons. For the past two years I've really been putting in more time and it's paid off. It feels good to be at the best of my ability while also being as old as I've ever been. I know I'm younger than most here, but for me, doing what I'm doing while going on 31 feels great.

I never enjoyed running, but now I really understand a runner's high. The mental flow state you get in while in a marathon and the sense of accomplishment you get while improving is so satisfying. I never would've thought maintaining a heart rate of 180+ for an hour straight would be fun growing up, but here I am, and I love it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 08, 2022, 01:16:00 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Implode on August 08, 2022, 02:12:16 PM
Thanks! I really appreciate it. Never been the active type for most my life, so it's very fulfilling.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2022, 02:46:51 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 08, 2022, 03:05:58 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2022, 03:06:42 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol

Did you use a Groupon?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 08, 2022, 03:12:09 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol

Did you use a Groupon?

:spitcoffee:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 08, 2022, 03:49:24 PM
I will never tell.   :P
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 04:51:56 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol

Did you use a Groupon?

What the fuck is a Groupon?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 04:52:17 PM
Don't post here very often, but want to contribute a bit more. So fitness update!

My main source of exercise is dance games, specifically 4 panel stamina. For those who don't know (aka everyone) it's basically maintaining sustained fast movement for long periods of times. Like running but lower impact, and along with running you can have songs that feel like sprints and others that are marathons. For the past two years I've really been putting in more time and it's paid off. It feels good to be at the best of my ability while also being as old as I've ever been. I know I'm younger than most here, but for me, doing what I'm doing while going on 31 feels great.

I never enjoyed running, but now I really understand a runner's high. The mental flow state you get in while in a marathon and the sense of accomplishment you get while improving is so satisfying. I never would've thought maintaining a heart rate of 180+ for an hour straight would be fun growing up, but here I am, and I love it.

Interesting.  Whatever works mate and you enjoy, as Rich said.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2022, 04:59:15 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol

Did you use a Groupon?

What the fuck is a Groupon?

Inside joke from the massage thread.

Also, Tim has worn out too much on you. While I get that Groupon apparently isn’t a thing in Oz, Google is your friend. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 05:06:31 PM
So.......I think I want to aim to do an ultra marathon.  Not sure how I'll get there when anything around 15km leaves me feeling like my legs are about to break.  Was smashing the 5kms last year but now I'm back into it, I'm starting to enjoy the longer runs.  Longest distance I've done is a half marathon so not sure how I'll get to an ultra.  :lol  I'll keep plugging away though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 05:07:12 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol

Did you use a Groupon?

What the fuck is a Groupon?

Inside joke from the massage thread.

Also, Tim has worn out too much on you. While I get that Groupon apparently isn’t a thing in Oz, Google is your friend. :biggrin:

Why google when you can just tell me?  Oh that's right, you still didn't tell me.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2022, 05:09:41 PM
I consider pretty much anything that gets your heart rate up as exercise. Dancing itself is wicked hard cardio when done vigorously.  Cycling is my jam. I love that shit in all its forms. Is it hard? Sure. Is it painful cardio sometimes? Sure. But it's also my favorite pass time.  I realized earlier this season that i ride around with a constant grin on my face (hard sprints and hills aside... in which case I likely sport a look of agony).

 That's the holy grail of exercise: finding something that improves/maintains your health that you really enjoy.  Glad you found your grail, Implode!

Quoted for truth

Agreed!


So with my weight training DOMS I went and got a 90 minute full body massage yesterday (rest day) and now I'm more sore than I was before!   :lol

Did you use a Groupon?

What the fuck is a Groupon?

Inside joke from the massage thread.

Also, Tim has worn out too much on you. While I get that Groupon apparently isn’t a thing in Oz, Google is your friend. :biggrin:

Why google when you can just tell me?  Oh that's right, you still didn't tell me.  :lol

Exactly. Chadshmegland.


You know at work today, I was having a conversation with a guy and he said he was watching The Mandalorian, and I asked him what that was, and he said....google it.


OK that actually didn't happen. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 08, 2022, 05:11:21 PM
You guys know about www.usethefuckinggoogle.com

Right? 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2022, 05:11:59 PM
What is use the fucking google?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 08, 2022, 05:21:51 PM
LoL, click on the link.

It won't take you anywhere scary, promise.   :heart
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 05:52:30 PM
You guys know about www.usethefuckinggoogle.com

Right?

Umm.......no...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 05:52:54 PM
LoL, click on the link.

It won't take you anywhere scary, promise.   :heart

Is it Rick Astley?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2022, 06:02:33 PM
Fuck Kade. Even Tim knows what Groypon is. You should feel shame. Lots and lots of shame.  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 08, 2022, 06:03:05 PM
LoL, click on the link.

It won't take you anywhere scary, promise.   :heart

Is it Rick Astley?

Maybe if you put Rick Astley into the search engine.... but generally, no.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2022, 06:03:23 PM
@Harmony …. Glorious.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 06:12:25 PM
Fuck Kade. Even Tim knows what Groypon is. You should feel shame. Lots and lots of shame.  :rollin :rollin

Wait, I thought we were talking Groupons?  Now you throw a Groypon at me?!  :eek
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 06:13:46 PM
You guys know about www.usethefuckinggoogle.com

Right?

 :lol

I'm never googling again.  Everything I don't know in the history of mankind and the universe I'm asking to DTF.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2022, 06:54:56 PM
You guys know about www.usethefuckinggoogle.com

Right?

 :lol

I'm never googling again.  Everything I don't know in the history of mankind and the universe I'm asking to DTF.

Tim v2
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2022, 07:20:12 PM
You guys know about www.usethefuckinggoogle.com

Right?

 :lol

I'm never googling again.  Everything I don't know in the history of mankind and the universe I'm asking to DTF.

Tim v2

I mean, who wouldn't want that? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2022, 09:12:50 PM
Well, Tim's in the exercise thread, so we're both pulling our weight here.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2022, 05:12:50 AM
 :rollin :rollin

You two really should both change your avatar to an image of Waldorf/Statler in the balcony.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on August 09, 2022, 08:09:27 AM
Here's a little left-field rant for everyone:

It's one thing to get in shape, but it's another thing entirely to maintain it.

As a working/touring musician in my mid '20s, I lived on a diet of fast food and energy drinks. While I wouldn't say I was ever overweight, I was about as far from 'fit' as it gets.

Fortunately, I focused on getting in shape in my late '20s (for a variety of reasons) and have stayed that way ever since.

All of that said, it continues to blow my mind just how much of an uphill slog this whole 'working out' thing has become.

At this stage in my life, flirting with my mid-'40s, I'm devoting an average of 7-10 hours a week to running, lifting, stetching, and yoga. This is easily twice the time I spent ten years ago. Add to that my meticulous diet, and maintaining a desired body-fat percentage is literally a part-time job.

Now, if I were single, I suspect this whole thing would be so much easier to wrap my head around, but with a 9-month-old baby crawling around, and a 14-year-old who literally needs a ride 'somewhere' three times a day, carving out time to workout has me waking up at 4:45 in the morning.

Based on my current trajectory, I suspect this investment will only continue to balloon. Staying in shape is a massive priority for me, so it is what it is. That all said, anyone else experiencing what I described?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 09, 2022, 08:41:37 AM
Here's a little left-field rant for everyone:

It's one thing to get in shape, but it's another thing entirely to maintain it.

As a working/touring musician in my mid '20s, I lived on a diet of fast food and energy drinks. While I wouldn't say I was ever overweight, I was about as far from 'fit' as it gets.

Fortunately, I focused on getting in shape in my late '20s (for a variety of reasons) and have stayed that way ever since.

All of that said, it continues to blow my mind just how much of an uphill slog this whole 'working out' thing has become.

At this stage in my life, flirting with my mid-'40s, I'm devoting an average of 7-10 hours a week to running, lifting, stetching, and yoga. This is easily twice the time I spent ten years ago. Add to that my meticulous diet, and maintaining a desired body-fat percentage is literally a part-time job.

Now, if I were single, I suspect this whole thing would be so much easier to wrap my head around, but with a 9-month-old baby crawling around, and a 14-year-old who literally needs a ride 'somewhere' three times a day, carving out time to workout has me waking up at 4:45 in the morning.

Based on my current trajectory, I suspect this investment will only continue to balloon. Staying in shape is a massive priority for me, so it is what it is. That all said, anyone else experiencing what I described?


100% this, especially as you age. It just becomes cumbersome to maintain it all. I've recently been on a real good kick of getting back into running and watching my calorie intake. First week of May my wife and I started focusing on exercising more and watching our intake. I've been maintaining at least 4 days a week of running 5 miles a day plus I play ice hockey on Sundays....been VERY active. I reworked my lunches to where I'm only doing 400 calories for lunch and then I basically eat a 'normal' dinner of 1500 calories or so...so, I'm staying around 2000 calories a day. I'm not tracking it down to the calorie but I've been pretty careful to stay within reason.....basically I'm doing my own version of the whole intermittent fasting thing. My first food is lunchtime and I don't eat past 8:00pm or so.

So the more controlled food intake and getting back to a more normal exercise schedule helped me go from 196lbs in May to now this week I'm at 179lbs. Looking to drop another 5lbs or so, which....I know I'll do BUT it's then maintaining that. It's truly another job! I feel better about myself now and feel good to be running and active again, but man....you really have to stay after it because it doesn't take long to lose all your gains.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2022, 08:59:18 AM
It's one thing to get in shape, but it's another thing entirely to maintain it.

Dear God this is so accurate.  I was in the best shape of my life last year, let my diet slip a little in December (as it always does), got back to working out in Jan, really jammed my right shoulder by lifting too much/too hard, and then slipped into a bit of a depression (for many reasons) in Feb/March.  Tried to get back at it, but then caught COVID at the beginning of May.  Now summertime has found most of my disposable time enjoying the outdoors - either with household projects, or just trying to relax in the good weather. Virtually all of my gains from 2020/2021 are gone, and I'm having trouble (again, for many reasons) finding the motivation and desire to get back at it.

But yeah, fitness is a journey - not a destination.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 09, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
I agree with both of you.

Motivation is difficult with setbacks.  I know that drill myself.

I'm really going into my new (3 weeks in as of last Sunday) routine with my eye on the long game.  It used to be cut calories drastically and move a little more and hope to see numbers on the scale drop quickly.

MISTAKE

Now I hardly ever weigh myself but instead am taking measurements.  I'm focusing on fueling my body with veggies, fruits, proteins but not cutting out entire food groups or doing drastic low calorie days that just send me off on a binge.  And I'm working out consistently 5 days a week.  Yesterday I kind of felt like crap for some reason but I forced myself to do an easier cardio session and damn if I didn't feel 100% better after moving my body.

I'm appreciating the small wins...clothes are fitting better, sleep is much better, mood is much better.  And I'm not pressuring myself (lose X number of pounds by X date).  Maybe what they say about finding a lifestyle you can live with forever is really the best way.  It will take longer.  That's ok.  I know I'll feel better next week, next month, next year.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 09, 2022, 10:26:48 AM
I actually log my weight daily. And it fluctuates crazy amounts, as well (to the tune of 6 or 7 lbs over 2-3 days depending on water retention/salt consumption). For me it's about the data point, and less about the actual number., so it doesn't bother me if it's up or down. Nor do I make any adjustments to my routine based on the number any given day. If my weekly avg. trends up consistently I might reign in my late night peanut butter excursions, but otherwise it's business as usual.

I don't take measurements (which would certainly be more accurate), but I do log a progress photo once per week. My weight has been steady in my range for about 3 years now, but I can clearly see that I'm much leaner over the same time period. The progress photos have also given me a time lapse of my beard over the last 2 years. It's pretty neat.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Lonk on August 09, 2022, 02:02:01 PM
It's encouraging to read the stories in this thread. I never been a "workout" type of person. My exercise used to come from biking and basketball, and I haven't done either of those things in 5 years. I bought a spin/exercise bike and I've gone through phases of using it constantly for a few weeks, even months, and then not using it for 3-4 months.

I started again a few weeks back and so far I'm sticking to it. I'm telling myself it's one step at the time. My goal right now is to continue getting on the bike for 3-4 days a week for 30 minutes. Then increase the duration little by little. I just hope I don't lose the routine once September hits and I'm back into grad-school stress.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 09, 2022, 02:44:27 PM
Back in my university days I would actually try to plan "easier" studying sessions around cycling. I found i could do readings while doing moderate stationary bike sessions. That likely differs from student to student though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 04:02:49 PM
Here's a little left-field rant for everyone:

It's one thing to get in shape, but it's another thing entirely to maintain it.

As a working/touring musician in my mid '20s, I lived on a diet of fast food and energy drinks. While I wouldn't say I was ever overweight, I was about as far from 'fit' as it gets.

Fortunately, I focused on getting in shape in my late '20s (for a variety of reasons) and have stayed that way ever since.

All of that said, it continues to blow my mind just how much of an uphill slog this whole 'working out' thing has become.

At this stage in my life, flirting with my mid-'40s, I'm devoting an average of 7-10 hours a week to running, lifting, stetching, and yoga. This is easily twice the time I spent ten years ago. Add to that my meticulous diet, and maintaining a desired body-fat percentage is literally a part-time job.

Now, if I were single, I suspect this whole thing would be so much easier to wrap my head around, but with a 9-month-old baby crawling around, and a 14-year-old who literally needs a ride 'somewhere' three times a day, carving out time to workout has me waking up at 4:45 in the morning.

Based on my current trajectory, I suspect this investment will only continue to balloon. Staying in shape is a massive priority for me, so it is what it is. That all said, anyone else experiencing what I described?


100% this, especially as you age. It just becomes cumbersome to maintain it all. I've recently been on a real good kick of getting back into running and watching my calorie intake. First week of May my wife and I started focusing on exercising more and watching our intake. I've been maintaining at least 4 days a week of running 5 miles a day plus I play ice hockey on Sundays....been VERY active. I reworked my lunches to where I'm only doing 400 calories for lunch and then I basically eat a 'normal' dinner of 1500 calories or so...so, I'm staying around 2000 calories a day. I'm not tracking it down to the calorie but I've been pretty careful to stay within reason.....basically I'm doing my own version of the whole intermittent fasting thing. My first food is lunchtime and I don't eat past 8:00pm or so.

So the more controlled food intake and getting back to a more normal exercise schedule helped me go from 196lbs in May to now this week I'm at 179lbs. Looking to drop another 5lbs or so, which....I know I'll do BUT it's then maintaining that. It's truly another job! I feel better about myself now and feel good to be running and active again, but man....you really have to stay after it because it doesn't take long to lose all your gains.  :lol

This is a crazy low calorie intake for your output Gary.  What's your maintenance calories going to look like after you've dropped the last 5 pounds?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 04:07:17 PM
What Munny wrote is bang on, it is a job in itself staying in shape and keeping fit.  I'm finding that out as I get older too.  I really love it though so it's not a chore.  At the moment I'm weight training 5 days a week and running 7 days a week.  5-8km through the week and usually 10-15kms on the weekends. 

With food, I kind of just eat what I want.  I hate cooking and prep and at the moment, I'm really doing an OMAD kind of diet.  I'm sitting with a cup of coffee this morning before work and sometimes I may have a protein bar through the day but most of the time, this is all I'll have until my post workout shake around 7pm and then I cook and eat a large meal for dinner.  At a guess, I'll aim for over 2500 calories a day.  Weight is starting to drop and felt pretty weak in the gym last night so need to add more food again. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2022, 04:19:20 PM
What is OMAD?

Are you saying that you won't eat until after 7PM, except for a protein bar?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 09, 2022, 04:21:12 PM
Here's a little left-field rant for everyone:

It's one thing to get in shape, but it's another thing entirely to maintain it.

As a working/touring musician in my mid '20s, I lived on a diet of fast food and energy drinks. While I wouldn't say I was ever overweight, I was about as far from 'fit' as it gets.

Fortunately, I focused on getting in shape in my late '20s (for a variety of reasons) and have stayed that way ever since.

All of that said, it continues to blow my mind just how much of an uphill slog this whole 'working out' thing has become.

At this stage in my life, flirting with my mid-'40s, I'm devoting an average of 7-10 hours a week to running, lifting, stetching, and yoga. This is easily twice the time I spent ten years ago. Add to that my meticulous diet, and maintaining a desired body-fat percentage is literally a part-time job.

Now, if I were single, I suspect this whole thing would be so much easier to wrap my head around, but with a 9-month-old baby crawling around, and a 14-year-old who literally needs a ride 'somewhere' three times a day, carving out time to workout has me waking up at 4:45 in the morning.

Based on my current trajectory, I suspect this investment will only continue to balloon. Staying in shape is a massive priority for me, so it is what it is. That all said, anyone else experiencing what I described?


100% this, especially as you age. It just becomes cumbersome to maintain it all. I've recently been on a real good kick of getting back into running and watching my calorie intake. First week of May my wife and I started focusing on exercising more and watching our intake. I've been maintaining at least 4 days a week of running 5 miles a day plus I play ice hockey on Sundays....been VERY active. I reworked my lunches to where I'm only doing 400 calories for lunch and then I basically eat a 'normal' dinner of 1500 calories or so...so, I'm staying around 2000 calories a day. I'm not tracking it down to the calorie but I've been pretty careful to stay within reason.....basically I'm doing my own version of the whole intermittent fasting thing. My first food is lunchtime and I don't eat past 8:00pm or so.

So the more controlled food intake and getting back to a more normal exercise schedule helped me go from 196lbs in May to now this week I'm at 179lbs. Looking to drop another 5lbs or so, which....I know I'll do BUT it's then maintaining that. It's truly another job! I feel better about myself now and feel good to be running and active again, but man....you really have to stay after it because it doesn't take long to lose all your gains.  :lol

This is a crazy low calorie intake for your output Gary.  What's your maintenance calories going to look like after you've dropped the last 5 pounds?

I really don’t know and honestly…….that’s where I’ve failed in the past. I’ve been able to drop weight before but it was always on efforts like I described. Then, I’d tell myself I’d “be better” at watching what I eat going forward then end up falling off and putting the weight back on.

It usually always comes down to my lunches. Was on a real bad kick the past couple years of taking in a lot of calories at lunch, then at dinner as well and so I couldn’t combat it with just a couple days of running and a night of hockey.

Certainly open for suggestions or advice.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 09, 2022, 04:49:01 PM
Gary have you calculated your TDEE?

https://tdeecalculator.net/

FTR, I've always been told to use sendentary as activity unless you are physically active for hours a day - like folks who do strenuous jobs for a living.  Working out an hour or so a day isn't it.  YMMV

Well...I upped my weights today.  My muscles are doing the shaking thing.  LoL
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 05:27:55 PM
What is OMAD?

Are you saying that you won't eat until after 7PM, except for a protein bar?

One Meal A Day.  Pretty much yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 05:31:35 PM
Here's a little left-field rant for everyone:

It's one thing to get in shape, but it's another thing entirely to maintain it.

As a working/touring musician in my mid '20s, I lived on a diet of fast food and energy drinks. While I wouldn't say I was ever overweight, I was about as far from 'fit' as it gets.

Fortunately, I focused on getting in shape in my late '20s (for a variety of reasons) and have stayed that way ever since.

All of that said, it continues to blow my mind just how much of an uphill slog this whole 'working out' thing has become.

At this stage in my life, flirting with my mid-'40s, I'm devoting an average of 7-10 hours a week to running, lifting, stetching, and yoga. This is easily twice the time I spent ten years ago. Add to that my meticulous diet, and maintaining a desired body-fat percentage is literally a part-time job.

Now, if I were single, I suspect this whole thing would be so much easier to wrap my head around, but with a 9-month-old baby crawling around, and a 14-year-old who literally needs a ride 'somewhere' three times a day, carving out time to workout has me waking up at 4:45 in the morning.

Based on my current trajectory, I suspect this investment will only continue to balloon. Staying in shape is a massive priority for me, so it is what it is. That all said, anyone else experiencing what I described?


100% this, especially as you age. It just becomes cumbersome to maintain it all. I've recently been on a real good kick of getting back into running and watching my calorie intake. First week of May my wife and I started focusing on exercising more and watching our intake. I've been maintaining at least 4 days a week of running 5 miles a day plus I play ice hockey on Sundays....been VERY active. I reworked my lunches to where I'm only doing 400 calories for lunch and then I basically eat a 'normal' dinner of 1500 calories or so...so, I'm staying around 2000 calories a day. I'm not tracking it down to the calorie but I've been pretty careful to stay within reason.....basically I'm doing my own version of the whole intermittent fasting thing. My first food is lunchtime and I don't eat past 8:00pm or so.

So the more controlled food intake and getting back to a more normal exercise schedule helped me go from 196lbs in May to now this week I'm at 179lbs. Looking to drop another 5lbs or so, which....I know I'll do BUT it's then maintaining that. It's truly another job! I feel better about myself now and feel good to be running and active again, but man....you really have to stay after it because it doesn't take long to lose all your gains.  :lol

This is a crazy low calorie intake for your output Gary.  What's your maintenance calories going to look like after you've dropped the last 5 pounds?

I really don’t know and honestly…….that’s where I’ve failed in the past. I’ve been able to drop weight before but it was always on efforts like I described. Then, I’d tell myself I’d “be better” at watching what I eat going forward then end up falling off and putting the weight back on.

It usually always comes down to my lunches. Was on a real bad kick the past couple years of taking in a lot of calories at lunch, then at dinner as well and so I couldn’t combat it with just a couple days of running and a night of hockey.

Certainly open for suggestions or advice.

Tracking daily is a pain in the ass.  I did it but have become pretty intuitive with my diet and how much I can eat depending on what I do.  That's kind of why I restrict most of my eating til later in the day.  I hate eating small and regularly, so putting down most my calories later in the day makes me satisfied and I can eat a bit more of what I like.  It's easier to combat if you have a couple of days over your calories.

Gary have you calculated your TDEE?

https://tdeecalculator.net/

FTR, I've always been told to use sendentary as activity unless you are physically active for hours a day - like folks who do strenuous jobs for a living.  Working out an hour or so a day isn't it.  YMMV

Well...I upped my weights today.  My muscles are doing the shaking thing.  LoL

These calculators are always good for a guide.  The issue is sticking to the numbers it gives you or properly tracking everything to hit the numbers daily.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on August 09, 2022, 05:37:30 PM
Well the numbers it gives you is your basic daily calorie expenditure number.  Depending on your goals you just go down or up from there.

I don't find tracking difficult.  Where I sometimes go off the rails is eyeballing things instead of measuring with my food scale.  I mean....who eats 1 tablespoon of peanut butter?  LoL
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 05:45:44 PM
Well the numbers it gives you is your basic daily calorie expenditure number.  Depending on your goals you just go down or up from there.

I don't find tracking difficult.  Where I sometimes go off the rails is eyeballing things instead of measuring with my food scale.  I mean....who eats 1 tablespoon of peanut butter?  LoL

Exactly, 2 is a minimum.  ;D

That's true, I've done enough to eyeball most things also, so I can gauge within a pretty good range of how much I'm eating.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 09, 2022, 05:51:01 PM
Nor do i find tracking difficult.  I have a 2,411 day log streak in Myfitnesspal (MFP). It's synced with my garmin devices, so exercise is automatically logged. As for the food, i spend less than 5min each day in the app, and usually probably closer to 2. I can barcode scan foods i don't usually eat,  the database of restaurant entries is vast, and i have saved meals for my commonly eaten foods (i do all the cooking for my family, so it's easy to keep it consistent). I find the whole process simple and 100% effective.  Used this process to lose about 50lbs, and have maintained the same weight since.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2022, 05:55:47 PM
What is OMAD?

Are you saying that you won't eat until after 7PM, except for a protein bar?

One Meal A Day.  Pretty much yeah.


How do you maintain your energy during the day? That seems impossible.



Anyway, I marvel at everyone's commitment to running, lifting, etc... I mainly come in to see the convo about dieting and that sort of thing. As a diabetic, I find it an interesting topic.


Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on August 09, 2022, 06:27:23 PM
What Munny wrote is bang on, it is a job in itself staying in shape and keeping fit.  I'm finding that out as I get older too.  I really love it though so it's not a chore.  At the moment I'm weight training 5 days a week and running 7 days a week.  5-8km through the week and usually 10-15kms on the weekends. 

With food, I kind of just eat what I want.  I hate cooking and prep and at the moment, I'm really doing an OMAD kind of diet.  I'm sitting with a cup of coffee this morning before work and sometimes I may have a protein bar through the day but most of the time, this is all I'll have until my post workout shake around 7pm and then I cook and eat a large meal for dinner.  At a guess, I'll aim for over 2500 calories a day.  Weight is starting to drop and felt pretty weak in the gym last night so need to add more food again.

This is a really good point that I failed to mention.

Staying in shape is and has been a part-time job, but it's one that I enjoy, hence my ability to stay relatively fit (within a couple points of body fat) for the better part of a decade.

I think the thing that's beginning to mess with me is the obvious and unwavering downward trajectory. I get it, we all get older, but understanding and accepting are two very different things. Each year that goes by, I'm lifting a little less heavy, and my tempo runs are getting a few seconds slower. Oh, and don't even get me started about how many times I wake up to pee every night!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 07:01:16 PM
Nor do i find tracking difficult.  I have a 2,411 day log streak in Myfitnesspal (MFP). It's synced with my garmin devices, so exercise is automatically logged. As for the food, i spend less than 5min each day in the app, and usually probably closer to 2. I can barcode scan foods i don't usually eat,  the database of restaurant entries is vast, and i have saved meals for my commonly eaten foods (i do all the cooking for my family, so it's easy to keep it consistent). I find the whole process simple and 100% effective.  Used this process to lose about 50lbs, and have maintained the same weight since.

Outstanding.  I did use the app for a while and it was handy, and did become time saving once regular meals were saved.  I just couldn't be assed sticking it out.  Eyeballing for me is good enough but probably why I've never reached the physique I've always wanted.  That streak is incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 07:05:04 PM
What is OMAD?

Are you saying that you won't eat until after 7PM, except for a protein bar?

One Meal A Day.  Pretty much yeah.


How do you maintain your energy during the day? That seems impossible.



Anyway, I marvel at everyone's commitment to running, lifting, etc... I mainly come in to see the convo about dieting and that sort of thing. As a diabetic, I find it an interesting topic.

Fasting is a tool I've used for years once I started to lose weight.  It becomes a mental battle and a challenge but your body gets used to it.  Not sure how it would work with your diabetes mate so it's probably not a wise thing for you I would imagine.  I'd assume you'd need more constant food intake to stabilize everything.  Again, I'm not too cluely on all that.

I've found I'm fine with fasting but once I start snacking and eating through the day, it leads to over eating.  Usually though, with the amount I eat at night, I'm not hungry until later in the day.  Plenty of water and coffee helps during the day, although I try and limit the coffee.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 07:06:49 PM
What Munny wrote is bang on, it is a job in itself staying in shape and keeping fit.  I'm finding that out as I get older too.  I really love it though so it's not a chore.  At the moment I'm weight training 5 days a week and running 7 days a week.  5-8km through the week and usually 10-15kms on the weekends. 

With food, I kind of just eat what I want.  I hate cooking and prep and at the moment, I'm really doing an OMAD kind of diet.  I'm sitting with a cup of coffee this morning before work and sometimes I may have a protein bar through the day but most of the time, this is all I'll have until my post workout shake around 7pm and then I cook and eat a large meal for dinner.  At a guess, I'll aim for over 2500 calories a day.  Weight is starting to drop and felt pretty weak in the gym last night so need to add more food again.

This is a really good point that I failed to mention.

Staying in shape is and has been a part-time job, but it's one that I enjoy, hence my ability to stay relatively fit (within a couple points of body fat) for the better part of a decade.

I think the thing that's beginning to mess with me is the obvious and unwavering downward trajectory. I get it, we all get older, but understanding and accepting are two very different things. Each year that goes by, I'm lifting a little less heavy, and my tempo runs are getting a few seconds slower. Oh, and don't even get me started about how many times I wake up to pee every night!

Not sure how old you are mate but that's something that would be mentally challenging, hence the reason more work is involved to stay in shape I guess.  I know with how I am I'll push harder and harder to stay the same or better but that then leads to injuries and the like.  It's certainly a balancing act.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2022, 07:13:31 PM
What is OMAD?

Are you saying that you won't eat until after 7PM, except for a protein bar?

One Meal A Day.  Pretty much yeah.


How do you maintain your energy during the day? That seems impossible.



Anyway, I marvel at everyone's commitment to running, lifting, etc... I mainly come in to see the convo about dieting and that sort of thing. As a diabetic, I find it an interesting topic.

Fasting is a tool I've used for years once I started to lose weight.  It becomes a mental battle and a challenge but your body gets used to it.  Not sure how it would work with your diabetes mate so it's probably not a wise thing for you I would imagine.  I'd assume you'd need more constant food intake to stabilize everything.  Again, I'm not too cluely on all that.


Yeah, I just like to read the remarks. I'm square on my diet. I've basically weighed the same for over 30 years.
For me, what I've learned about dieting is that you never want to leave your body guessing when you're going to feed it next. That's when it starts hording as it doesn't know when it's getting more.

I actually eat very little. I'm diabetic not because of any eating habits I had, but more to the fact that my pancreas started shutting down over 20 years ago. I pretty much rely on my insulin shots to process any sugar I take in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 09, 2022, 07:26:07 PM
I intermittent fast, and really enjoy it.  As Kade mentioned,  coffee and water are good enough for the morning. I also agree that it can easily lead to over snacking in the afternoon and evening if you're not careful. 

I took up fasting on a whim at the onset of covid. WFH meant my bosses wanted daily team meetings at 10am. I started by just trying to put off breakfast until after the meeting,  and one thing led to another.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 08:20:02 PM
What is OMAD?

Are you saying that you won't eat until after 7PM, except for a protein bar?

One Meal A Day.  Pretty much yeah.


How do you maintain your energy during the day? That seems impossible.



Anyway, I marvel at everyone's commitment to running, lifting, etc... I mainly come in to see the convo about dieting and that sort of thing. As a diabetic, I find it an interesting topic.

Fasting is a tool I've used for years once I started to lose weight.  It becomes a mental battle and a challenge but your body gets used to it.  Not sure how it would work with your diabetes mate so it's probably not a wise thing for you I would imagine.  I'd assume you'd need more constant food intake to stabilize everything.  Again, I'm not too cluely on all that.


Yeah, I just like to read the remarks. I'm square on my diet. I've basically weighed the same for over 30 years.
For me, what I've learned about dieting is that you never want to leave your body guessing when you're going to feed it next. That's when it starts hording as it doesn't know when it's getting more.

I actually eat very little. I'm diabetic not because of any eating habits I had, but more to the fact that my pancreas started shutting down over 20 years ago. I pretty much rely on my insulin shots to process any sugar I take in.

That doesn't sound fun at all Tim.  I didn't think you were diabetic from your eating habits so that makes sense.

Sounds like you know exactly what works for you and that's what its all about.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 08:23:06 PM
I intermittent fast, and really enjoy it.  As Kade mentioned,  coffee and water are good enough for the morning. I also agree that it can easily lead to over snacking in the afternoon and evening if you're not careful. 

I took up fasting on a whim at the onset of covid. WFH meant my bosses wanted daily team meetings at 10am. I started by just trying to put off breakfast until after the meeting,  and one thing led to another.

Pretty much.  I've had borderline eating disorders in the past so I've found it a great tool to control habits.  It works for me as some days I'm so busy I don't think about food and its mid afternoon, and sometimes you just keep it going as long as you can.

People do think its some sort magical tool though.  People completely miss the point with what IF is all about.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2022, 08:37:48 PM
  I didn't think you were diabetic from your eating habits so that makes sense.


Well other than oddball comments in the food thread, my eating habits are pretty good and very well controlled. I can always eat better, but I by no means eat bad.

For breakfast I have a half a bagel or a couple of pieces of toast.
Morning snack is usually a granola bar or a banana
Lunch is a chicken sandwich (wheat bread...I don't like multigrain), a few chips and a Coke zero sugar
(Gotta have a soda with lunch)
Afterwork, maybe some cereal or crackers
Dinner is usually pretty square. Meat, veg, and a starch...NO seconds.

I never eat after dinner, but I do put down a few beers each night.

That's it. Every day. It's really not a lot of food. Like I said, my weight has never fluctuated. I last weighed in at 184. From 1990 to current day, I have never gone out of the 182-188 range. And 188 is usually the winter reading at my doctors with jeans, boots, etc..on. I do not have a scale at home. I actually have very little fat on me. My stomach is a bit bloated, but that started when I went on insulin a few years ago.


I do have a Pavlovian response to food, because I know if I eat this or have more of that, I know I'm going to feel shitty afterwards. It sucks actually. There were a lot of comments about Kingshmegland's crust on his pizza in the Food Thread. When I eat pizza, I can't, or won't eat the crust. It's just extra carbs/sugar.

My biggest problem is that I don't like veggies. I hate onions. I hate Broccoli. I like corn but isn't good for me. Peas aren't good for me either. I usually just have green beans.

Thank God for my wife though. She's a closet nutrition expert and exercise maniac. And she's a great scratch cook, so there's not a lot of processed meals happening.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2022, 09:57:07 PM
  I didn't think you were diabetic from your eating habits so that makes sense.


Well other than oddball comments in the food thread, my eating habits are pretty good and very well controlled. I can always eat better, but I by no means eat bad.

For breakfast I have a half a bagel or a couple of pieces of toast.
Morning snack is usually a granola bar or a banana
Lunch is a chicken sandwich (wheat bread...I don't like multigrain), a few chips and a Coke zero sugar
(Gotta have a soda with lunch)
Afterwork, maybe some cereal or crackers
Dinner is usually pretty square. Meat, veg, and a starch...NO seconds.

I never eat after dinner, but I do put down a few beers each night.

That's it. Every day. It's really not a lot of food. Like I said, my weight has never fluctuated. I last weighed in at 184. From 1990 to current day, I have never gone out of the 182-188 range. And 188 is usually the winter reading at my doctors with jeans, boots, etc..on. I do not have a scale at home. I actually have very little fat on me. My stomach is a bit bloated, but that started when I went on insulin a few years ago.


I do have a Pavlovian response to food, because I know if I eat this or have more of that, I know I'm going to feel shitty afterwards. It sucks actually. There were a lot of comments about Kingshmegland's crust on his pizza in the Food Thread. When I eat pizza, I can't, or won't eat the crust. It's just extra carbs/sugar.

My biggest problem is that I don't like veggies. I hate onions. I hate Broccoli. I like corn but isn't good for me. Peas aren't good for me either. I usually just have green beans.

Thank God for my wife though. She's a closet nutrition expert and exercise maniac. And she's a great scratch cook, so there's not a lot of processed meals happening.

As I said, it seems you know what works for you and how to maintain your weight, that's certainly a good thing.

I don't think I've ever eaten a bagel.  I'm not sure if we even have them here.

And Tim, onions and broccoli are amazing.   ;D  Corn isnt the best vegetable source I'll give you that and green beans are indeed incredible.  Roasted cauliflower is another fav of mine.  Those little carrots you get in bunches I love too.

I don't mind the odd calorie free soft drink.  They were a huge tool in my fat loss.  I know sweeteners are bad and all that shit but nothing beats a diet soft drink sometimes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2022, 08:23:39 PM
So.......I think I want to aim to do an ultra marathon.  Not sure how I'll get there when anything around 15km leaves me feeling like my legs are about to break.  Was smashing the 5kms last year but now I'm back into it, I'm starting to enjoy the longer runs.  Longest distance I've done is a half marathon so not sure how I'll get to an ultra.  :lol  I'll keep plugging away though.

So.....when I posted this, maybe I forgot about the marathon part before the ultra marathon.  I did my longest run ever yesterday at 22km (5:37 pace with 164m elevation gain) and just backed it up this morning with a 21.1km run (5:28 pace with 133m elevation gain).  Today was a PB for the half marathon, so pretty chuffed with that.  The thought of doing both these runs back to back still seems pretty daunting, but I think not out of the realm of possibility.  Guys that do 100km runs or even the 100mile runs, jeez......

Needless to say, I'm pretty fucking sore right now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 14, 2022, 05:16:47 AM
Great work Kade! Back to back 20km+ runs is a mighty toll on the body.  In all my years of racing,  i don't think i ever did that lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2022, 05:25:11 AM
Great work Kade! Back to back 20km+ runs is a mighty toll on the body.  In all my years of racing,  i don't think i ever did that lol.

Thanks Rich.  Yeah, I guess I don't really know what I'm doing or have a specific plan.  But my time today was better so, so far so good.   :lol

I'll see how I pull up tomorrow.  Might give the treadmill a miss maybe tomorrow night haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on August 14, 2022, 11:50:24 AM
So.......I think I want to aim to do an ultra marathon.  Not sure how I'll get there when anything around 15km leaves me feeling like my legs are about to break.  Was smashing the 5kms last year but now I'm back into it, I'm starting to enjoy the longer runs.  Longest distance I've done is a half marathon so not sure how I'll get to an ultra.  :lol  I'll keep plugging away though.

So.....when I posted this, maybe I forgot about the marathon part before the ultra marathon.  I did my longest run ever yesterday at 22km (5:37 pace with 164m elevation gain) and just backed it up this morning with a 21.1km run (5:28 pace with 133m elevation gain).  Today was a PB for the half marathon, so pretty chuffed with that.  The thought of doing both these runs back to back still seems pretty daunting, but I think not out of the realm of possibility.  Guys that do 100km runs or even the 100mile runs, jeez......

Needless to say, I'm pretty fucking sore right now.

As someone who completed numerous Ultras (including a 100k), let me be the first to tell you that it is both easier and harder than it appears.

Easier in that all that concern about speed and PB's goes out the window, especially for a novice. Just finishing is the goal, and when it comes to distance, training is pretty straight forward. You run. A lot. And eventually you build up a base where a 20 mile run is just the thing you do every Thursday morning.

Harder in that all the training in the world can't truly prepare you for the mental and emotional gymnastics you encounter when you essentially take your longest distance and double it on race day. Having done a dozen or so of these races, I've learned to redefine what 'tired,' 'exhausted,' and 'sore' mean.

Bottom line, if you've put in the work, the race will be a mental conquest. When running a 50k, for instance, your body will likely want to tap out and you will then need to decide how much farther you want to push yourself. Once you do it a few times, it becomes old hat, just like anything else.

On a personal note, the first race I ever ran was a 50k. I'm not sure I would recommend it, but it really made the whole 5k/10k/marathon thing seem more manageable after I got a 32 miler under my belt.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 14, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
My first running race was also a marathon. I was already running 15-20km almost daily,  so it seemed pointless to race a shorter distance.

I did a 130km road cycling race this morning.  Was really good right up to my crash at 115km. Still finished,  but that last stretch was a slog.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2022, 03:38:09 PM
So.......I think I want to aim to do an ultra marathon.  Not sure how I'll get there when anything around 15km leaves me feeling like my legs are about to break.  Was smashing the 5kms last year but now I'm back into it, I'm starting to enjoy the longer runs.  Longest distance I've done is a half marathon so not sure how I'll get to an ultra.  :lol  I'll keep plugging away though.

So.....when I posted this, maybe I forgot about the marathon part before the ultra marathon.  I did my longest run ever yesterday at 22km (5:37 pace with 164m elevation gain) and just backed it up this morning with a 21.1km run (5:28 pace with 133m elevation gain).  Today was a PB for the half marathon, so pretty chuffed with that.  The thought of doing both these runs back to back still seems pretty daunting, but I think not out of the realm of possibility.  Guys that do 100km runs or even the 100mile runs, jeez......

Needless to say, I'm pretty fucking sore right now.

As someone who completed numerous Ultras (including a 100k), let me be the first to tell you that it is both easier and harder than it appears.

Easier in that all that concern about speed and PB's goes out the window, especially for a novice. Just finishing is the goal, and when it comes to distance, training is pretty straight forward. You run. A lot. And eventually you build up a base where a 20 mile run is just the thing you do every Thursday morning.

Harder in that all the training in the world can't truly prepare you for the mental and emotional gymnastics you encounter when you essentially take your longest distance and double it on race day. Having done a dozen or so of these races, I've learned to redefine what 'tired,' 'exhausted,' and 'sore' mean.

Bottom line, if you've put in the work, the race will be a mental conquest. When running a 50k, for instance, your body will likely want to tap out and you will then need to decide how much farther you want to push yourself. Once you do it a few times, it becomes old hat, just like anything else.

On a personal note, the first race I ever ran was a 50k. I'm not sure I would recommend it, but it really made the whole 5k/10k/marathon thing seem more manageable after I got a 32 miler under my belt.

Thanks Will for the response.  That bolded part was kind of my general thinking, hence while two 20K runs back to back on the weekend wasn't big by any means, it's adding the volume I think I need.

My other issue is what you say about PB's and times going out the window.  Yesterday I looked at my watch and Strava a bit too much.  I could see I was going to crack half marathon pace under 5:30.  This got in my head and kept me pushing and I stopped to see that time.  If I didn't get that in my head, I could have done a few more kms.  So I understand what you mean there I think.  The mental part really comes into it.  I'll keep slogging away.

My first running race was also a marathon. I was already running 15-20km almost daily,  so it seemed pointless to race a shorter distance.

I did a 130km road cycling race this morning.  Was really good right up to my crash at 115km. Still finished,  but that last stretch was a slog.

Just saw that, impressive man.  I hope the bike isn't too bad.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 21, 2022, 10:47:13 AM
Did my 2nd half-marathon yesterday. First one was a disaster but this one was just ok. My goal was to finish it in under 2 hours and I did, in 1:59:50 ;D the weather was pretty shit and we had to go over the arched bridge 6 times in total so I'm pretty satisfied.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 21, 2022, 03:35:50 PM
Great work! Sub 2hr half is a solid time
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2022, 04:21:22 PM
Did my 2nd half-marathon yesterday. First one was a disaster but this one was just ok. My goal was to finish it in under 2 hours and I did, in 1:59:50 ;D the weather was pretty shit and we had to go over the arched bridge 6 times in total so I'm pretty satisfied.

Nice work mate.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2022, 04:25:17 PM
Another long run Saturday and the thought of going marathon distance seemed okay the weekend before but this Saturday seemed further away, really difficult.  First time I really felt like I was going to pass out and felt dehydrated.  The weather is heating up though.  Got a half marathon PB of 1:54:50 though so can't complain.

Yesterday was a 10km PB too of 48:46 which felt pretty good, so, still improving.

Does anyone use gels on longer distance sessions?  I started using them and they seem like they actually help quite a bit.  Just not sure how many or how often you're supposed to use them.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 21, 2022, 05:48:32 PM
I use gels/energy bars extensively.  You need carbs and electrolyte replacement when doing endurance exercise,  or you'll eventually hit a wall. I consume a gel or part of an energy bar every 20-30 minutes while riding, and aim to eat back about 1/3 to 1/2 of my calorie burn (i.e. i need to eat ~1,000-1,800 calories during the ride).

Your body uses glycogen for fuel, and can only store and process a certain amount every hour (different for every athlete). If you fall too far behind, you can't catch up since your body can't process the glycogen fast enough. This is a compounding problem if your burn rate is higher than your body's process rate (i.e. during hard exercise).

Long story short: if you want to perform,  eat early and often
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2022, 07:39:32 PM
Thanks Rich for the information.  I think that explains Saturday.  I had one gel in my pocket which I consumed at about 8km.  I think another one around that 15-16km mark would have kept me doing a bit further because as I mentioned by 22km, I was cooked.

Man, these things are expensive though!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 21, 2022, 07:57:23 PM
The cost is why i started making my own energy bars.  They're not quite as handy for eating while running though.  It's much easier to eat while on the bike
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2022, 10:33:13 PM
The cost is why i started making my own energy bars.  They're not quite as handy for eating while running though.  It's much easier to eat while on the bike

Yeah, its bad enough trying to choke gel down in-between my accelerated breathing, I don't think I could eat haha.

I did get a few boxes on special yesterday.  A box of 4 gels was half price at $4.25.  Thats acceptable IMO.

I really have to get on top of actually eating more and more carbs.  Did another run this morning and I'm fucked.  My fasting regime simply isn't going to cut it if I want to up the mileage.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 21, 2022, 11:15:45 PM
I find i can maintain my fasting if the workout is under 90min and i have electrolyte drink (mine is 5cal, so it doesn't really break my fast). I decided this summer that I'm just going eat before and during long rides if i have to schedule them in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2022, 01:31:51 AM
Gels usually make my stomach ache, sadly. I take dates on my runs :lol also, sip of water every 15 minutes. On this last half-marathon water stations were too far apart imo and weather was awful for running, fortunately I had my own electrolyte drink + took water on stations.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2022, 04:55:30 AM
Dates?!  :lol  Wow, that wouldn't end well for me I don't think.  I can't drink anything while running either, but if I try to go longer I'll have to work something out.

I find i can maintain my fasting if the workout is under 90min and i have electrolyte drink (mine is 5cal, so it doesn't really break my fast). I decided this summer that I'm just going eat before and during long rides if i have to schedule them in the morning.

Yeah, all my runs are fasted so far. I generally feel better training as fasted as possible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2022, 05:26:48 AM
I did go to the supermarket on the way home tonight and got another couple of boxes of gels while they were still half price too.   :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on August 22, 2022, 06:53:34 AM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2022, 04:19:50 PM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 23, 2022, 10:34:24 PM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.
Good lord, Kade! No food. No water.  20km runs. That's basically self torture for no reason lol. You'd probably shave 15s per km if you had proper nutrition/hydration.  Easily.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 12:54:04 AM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.
Good lord, Kade! No food. No water.  20km runs. That's basically self torture for no reason lol. You'd probably shave 15s per km if you had proper nutrition/hydration.  Easily.

I'll have some water beforehand and just brought some pre workout again.  Usually on the weekends will wake up, a bit if a stretch so water, preworkout and off I go!

15s per km!?  That's massive, what do I do?   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on August 24, 2022, 06:49:35 AM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.

Definitely need water to swish around after. On my seriously long runs, I would get hungry and would tuck a couple almonds into the pocket on my water bottle. Then I found they make gu gummies and the watermelon ones are pretty decent. Chewing something made a difference to me mentally.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 24, 2022, 07:25:18 AM
I might start taking Haribo gummies or something, didn't find decent specialized ones (would they differ from regular gummies much?). I often run shorter runs with chewing gum and somehow it helps lol. Can't even describe it but everything feels easier.

It's been 4 days since half-marathon, I took a rest (lactic acid is a bitch), maybe I'll do an easy run today. Next week I'm starting 5k training for September 17th race. Managed 4:28/km pace for virtual race this summer, my new goal is 4:20 (just under 7:00/mile).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 04:25:10 PM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.

Definitely need water to swish around after. On my seriously long runs, I would get hungry and would tuck a couple almonds into the pocket on my water bottle. Then I found they make gu gummies and the watermelon ones are pretty decent. Chewing something made a difference to me mentally.

I think for my longer runs I'll need to start carrying like a small backpack or something, I'll have to look into it.  I have the gels in my pocket and I have my phone on me so carrying water aswell just wouldn't work.  I like the gummies idea. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 04:27:05 PM
I might start taking Haribo gummies or something, didn't find decent specialized ones (would they differ from regular gummies much?). I often run shorter runs with chewing gum and somehow it helps lol. Can't even describe it but everything feels easier.

It's been 4 days since half-marathon, I took a rest (lactic acid is a bitch), maybe I'll do an easy run today. Next week I'm starting 5k training for September 17th race. Managed 4:28/km pace for virtual race this summer, my new goal is 4:20 (just under 7:00/mile).

What's involved in your 5km training mate?

4:28 is a great time.  My fastest is 4:35 at the start of the year, 4:30 will be my next goal eventually. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 04:27:59 PM
Somehow last Sunday I smashed a 10km at 4:53 average pace.  That was after a 23km run on the Saturday.  So personally, I'm getting there, just need to not overdo it with the volume and injure myself like last time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2022, 04:29:00 PM
Somehow last Sunday I smashed a 10km at 4:53 average pace.  That was after a 23km run on the Saturday.  So personally, I'm getting there, just need to not overdo it with the volume and injure myself like last time.

I pulled a groin just reading that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 04:39:00 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on August 24, 2022, 04:43:31 PM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.

Definitely need water to swish around after. On my seriously long runs, I would get hungry and would tuck a couple almonds into the pocket on my water bottle. Then I found they make gu gummies and the watermelon ones are pretty decent. Chewing something made a difference to me mentally.

I think for my longer runs I'll need to start carrying like a small backpack or something, I'll have to look into it.  I have the gels in my pocket and I have my phone on me so carrying water aswell just wouldn't work.  I like the gummies idea.
This is what I run with. Its small and pretty lightweight. Small pocket for snacks. My phone goes in my pants pocket. They have other things though, including backpacks. Everything I've bought from this brand has held up really well for me and I'm working on my goal of averaging a 5k/day for the year.
https://www.nathansports.com/products/speedshot-plus-insulated-flask-black-metallic-gold

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 04:52:10 PM
I like GU brand. I had to test several to find which ones didn't give me a stomach ache. I like Jet Blackberry for some caffeine and Strawberry Banana for non-caffeinated.

The first brand I tried, they were so sickly sweet while I was running it left me with a weird feeling and coating in my mouth from the sugar.  Since I don't take water it wouldn't go away.  This brand I'm using now has a lot less sugar and was easier to stomach.

Definitely need water to swish around after. On my seriously long runs, I would get hungry and would tuck a couple almonds into the pocket on my water bottle. Then I found they make gu gummies and the watermelon ones are pretty decent. Chewing something made a difference to me mentally.

I think for my longer runs I'll need to start carrying like a small backpack or something, I'll have to look into it.  I have the gels in my pocket and I have my phone on me so carrying water aswell just wouldn't work.  I like the gummies idea.
This is what I run with. Its small and pretty lightweight. Small pocket for snacks. My phone goes in my pants pocket. They have other things though, including backpacks. Everything I've bought from this brand has held up really well for me and I'm working on my goal of averaging a 5k/day for the year.
https://www.nathansports.com/products/speedshot-plus-insulated-flask-black-metallic-gold

Hey thanks chknptpie.  That looks pretty nifty indeed.  I didn't even know those sorts of things existed haha.  I like the pocket for the gel/snack.

5km a day on average is nice goal.  I assume you're alternating between some longer and shorter runs?  I did a challenge last year in November with a few guys for mental health awareness and we had to do 5km each day for the month.  Got so addictive I kept it going.  You get to the point where you just need to get out there and at least do a 5km.  These days, I don't do anything shorter than a 5km.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on August 24, 2022, 07:08:22 PM
Hey thanks chknptpie.  That looks pretty nifty indeed.  I didn't even know those sorts of things existed haha.  I like the pocket for the gel/snack.

5km a day on average is nice goal.  I assume you're alternating between some longer and shorter runs?  I did a challenge last year in November with a few guys for mental health awareness and we had to do 5km each day for the month.  Got so addictive I kept it going.  You get to the point where you just need to get out there and at least do a 5km.  These days, I don't do anything shorter than a 5km.

I'm doing at least 5k a day but have taken a few days off for recovery and getting the covid. So I've made up some mileage going up to 10k when needed. Right now, I'm on target to hit the goal for the year though! I do need to get back on watching my calorie intake. I've put back on some lbs and its really slowed me down... well that and its 33C when I go run at 5am before the sun comes up.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 07:28:28 PM
Hey thanks chknptpie.  That looks pretty nifty indeed.  I didn't even know those sorts of things existed haha.  I like the pocket for the gel/snack.

5km a day on average is nice goal.  I assume you're alternating between some longer and shorter runs?  I did a challenge last year in November with a few guys for mental health awareness and we had to do 5km each day for the month.  Got so addictive I kept it going.  You get to the point where you just need to get out there and at least do a 5km.  These days, I don't do anything shorter than a 5km.

I'm doing at least 5k a day but have taken a few days off for recovery and getting the covid. So I've made up some mileage going up to 10k when needed. Right now, I'm on target to hit the goal for the year though! I do need to get back on watching my calorie intake. I've put back on some lbs and its really slowed me down... well that and its 33C when I go run at 5am before the sun comes up.

Jesus, even where I am I don't get 30 degrees at 5am in summer!

5km average a day for going on 9 months is spectacular though.

Calorie intake always kind of gets you when you run.  I constantly fall in the trap of eating more than I should because I've done a long run.  I'm smart about it, but it's incredible how the mind tricks you.  Subconsciously I think a lot of people think a long run burns a lot more than what it actually does.   Not relating that to you of course, just something I've noticed myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on August 24, 2022, 09:00:51 PM
Jesus, even where I am I don't get 30 degrees at 5am in summer!

5km average a day for going on 9 months is spectacular though.

Calorie intake always kind of gets you when you run.  I constantly fall in the trap of eating more than I should because I've done a long run.  I'm smart about it, but it's incredible how the mind tricks you.  Subconsciously I think a lot of people think a long run burns a lot more than what it actually does.   Not relating that to you of course, just something I've noticed myself.

Arizona summers are a bitch lol at least most days it’s 10-20% humidity, so that’s nice lol

I burn about 90c/mi. So my 5k run is less than 300cal. My baseline, no exercise, calorie burn is probably only 1300. I’m under 5ft. Essentially, to maintain, I should only eat 1500-1600 calories a day. To loose, I should be eating 1200-1300, which is soooooo hard, especially with running lol like you said, mentally I’m like “I ran, I can eat stuff!” But really I can’t ha
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2022, 09:26:15 PM
Jesus, even where I am I don't get 30 degrees at 5am in summer!

5km average a day for going on 9 months is spectacular though.

Calorie intake always kind of gets you when you run.  I constantly fall in the trap of eating more than I should because I've done a long run.  I'm smart about it, but it's incredible how the mind tricks you.  Subconsciously I think a lot of people think a long run burns a lot more than what it actually does.   Not relating that to you of course, just something I've noticed myself.

Arizona summers are a bitch lol at least most days it’s 10-20% humidity, so that’s nice lol

I burn about 90c/mi. So my 5k run is less than 300cal. My baseline, no exercise, calorie burn is probably only 1300. I’m under 5ft. Essentially, to maintain, I should only eat 1500-1600 calories a day. To loose, I should be eating 1200-1300, which is soooooo hard, especially with running lol like you said, mentally I’m like "I ran, I can eat stuff!” But really I can’t ha

 :lol  Yes, that's exactly what I mean. 

I only got a fitbit watch a couple of months ago mainly to do more lower heart rate runs and I was astounded how many calories it says I burn.  The perceived effort vs the calorie expenditure was an eye opener.

1300 calories a day definitely would be hard.  Females have it much tougher than men IMO.  But for anyone, 300 calories for a 5km run seems quite efficient but crazy you can eat those back in less than a minute if you really wanted to.

That humidity would make it more bearable but still doesn't sound fun.  We get average 80% humidity here in summer on top of high summer temperatures which isn't fun.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 25, 2022, 03:14:35 AM

What's involved in your 5km training mate?


Easy runs
Speedwork - mutiple 400/800/1000m reps close to my target pace with jog inbetween
Longer runs on weekend
...and something I don't do nearly enough - some strength training
...and maybe throw in some fun non-structured runs (fartlek)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2022, 05:57:11 AM

What's involved in your 5km training mate?


Easy runs
Speedwork - mutiple 400/800/1000m reps close to my target pace with jog inbetween
Longer runs on weekend
...and something I don't do nearly enough - some strength training
...and maybe throw in some fun non-structured runs (fartlek)

Nice.  I need to do more speedwork.  I don't do any of that interval kind of stuff.

Strength training is tough to balance, especially if you incorporate lots of deads, squats and lunges in.  Very helpful though I feel.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on August 25, 2022, 06:40:21 AM
Ive had fitbits and I did like their calorie counting/formula. However, I had to replace it every 6mo-1yr! After a few of those, I invested in a Garmin and love it. Its great for multisport, and I was doing sprint and indoor triathlons back then. I don't think it measures my sleep as good as the fitbit and now I have to use myfitnesspal which is meh, but at least they connect. Being able to set up training run programs based on time, or based on heart rate, is great. Much more functionality than any fitbit I had. I dunno if theyve gotten better lol

This is the one I got a few years ago and its still like it was out of the box, although I changed the band.
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/643399

I also love that you can choose your watch face. This is mine:
https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/75d407c1-a434-466d-ae45-0199b98f1fb3
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2022, 03:57:42 PM
Yeah, I'll definitely get a Garmin when I upgrade the fitbit. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 26, 2022, 11:58:08 AM
I have Samsung Galaxy 3, will definitely get Garmin in the future. Samsung Health app could be better and Samsung UI is flaky as always, some 3rd party apps are meh. Can't count the number of times I had reinstall Spotify because it crashed.
Anyone using Strava?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 26, 2022, 01:49:51 PM
I have Samsung Galaxy 3, will definitely get Garmin in the future. Samsung Health app could be better and Samsung UI is flaky as always, some 3rd party apps are meh. Can't count the number of times I had reinstall Spotify because it crashed.
Anyone using Strava?
Kade and and i both use strava.

Feel free to follow,  if you want.

https://www.strava.com/athletes/33918818
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2022, 04:25:52 PM
I have Samsung Galaxy 3, will definitely get Garmin in the future. Samsung Health app could be better and Samsung UI is flaky as always, some 3rd party apps are meh. Can't count the number of times I had reinstall Spotify because it crashed.
Anyone using Strava?

https://www.strava.com/athletes/71664787
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2022, 08:13:11 PM
Nice to have you following Tomi.  :tup

Legs are cooked today.  Logged a 5km yesterday in just under 23 minutes.  4:35 average per km.  2 seconds off my PB apparently.  How people can get under 20 minutes for a 5km is literally mindblowing to me.  Can't comprehend it just yet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 31, 2022, 05:45:30 AM
Nice to have you following Tomi.  :tup
Likewise :tup always feel encouraged seeing others' great progress


Legs are cooked today.  Logged a 5km yesterday in just under 23 minutes.  4:35 average per km.  2 seconds off my PB apparently.  How people can get under 20 minutes for a 5km is literally mindblowing to me.  Can't comprehend it just yet.
Same. I can see myself going under 22, but everything much lowers seems impossible.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2022, 05:56:25 AM
Nice to have you following Tomi.  :tup
Likewise :tup always feel encouraged seeing others' great progress


Legs are cooked today.  Logged a 5km yesterday in just under 23 minutes.  4:35 average per km.  2 seconds off my PB apparently.  How people can get under 20 minutes for a 5km is literally mindblowing to me.  Can't comprehend it just yet.
Same. I can see myself going under 22, but everything much lowers seems impossible.

Even 22 minutes feels a long way off to me to be honest.  I dunno, just keep plugging away I guess.  Will come in time......maybe lol.

When doing faster 5km runs I try not to look at the speed and progress as I'm going.  Might need to change that and watch it the whole time.  Might make me push harder once I start to slip past the goal time of the run.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on August 31, 2022, 07:35:29 AM
Nice to have you following Tomi.  :tup

Legs are cooked today.  Logged a 5km yesterday in just under 23 minutes.  4:35 average per km.  2 seconds off my PB apparently.  How people can get under 20 minutes for a 5km is literally mindblowing to me.  Can't comprehend it just yet.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 31, 2022, 07:55:16 AM
Even 22 minutes feels a long way off to me to be honest.  I dunno, just keep plugging away I guess.  Will come in time......maybe lol.

When doing faster 5km runs I try not to look at the speed and progress as I'm going.  Might need to change that and watch it the whole time.  Might make me push harder once I start to slip past the goal time of the run.
Interval training might help. You have to get used to the speed, even if it's just 400/800/1000m at the time.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.
Lol it's a great time, better than majority of us will ever come close to. I always try to get better and hardly ever compare myself to anyone. It would be nice to be in top 3 but I don't really care if I'm 20th or 50th if my time is better than last time.
I'm 27, so not that old :P but started seriously running only this year. I'm 191cm (6'3'') tall so I'm not really build for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on August 31, 2022, 08:04:07 AM
Even 22 minutes feels a long way off to me to be honest.  I dunno, just keep plugging away I guess.  Will come in time......maybe lol.

When doing faster 5km runs I try not to look at the speed and progress as I'm going.  Might need to change that and watch it the whole time.  Might make me push harder once I start to slip past the goal time of the run.
Interval training might help. You have to get used to the speed, even if it's just 400/800/1000m at the time.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.
Lol it's a great time, better than majority of us will ever come close to. I always try to get better and hardly ever compare myself to anyone. It would be nice to be in top 3 but I don't really care if I'm 20th or 50th if my time is better than last time.
I'm 27, so not that old :P but started seriously running only this year. I'm 191cm (6'3'') tall so I'm not really build for it.

That is golden advice. At this stage (I'm about to turn 42), I've made my peace with my competitiveness—my best days are behind me, and that's alright by me. My main goal now is to stay fit and nimble so I can continue playing with my kids as they get older.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 31, 2022, 08:10:18 AM
Even 22 minutes feels a long way off to me to be honest.  I dunno, just keep plugging away I guess.  Will come in time......maybe lol.

When doing faster 5km runs I try not to look at the speed and progress as I'm going.  Might need to change that and watch it the whole time.  Might make me push harder once I start to slip past the goal time of the run.
Interval training might help. You have to get used to the speed, even if it's just 400/800/1000m at the time.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.
Lol it's a great time, better than majority of us will ever come close to. I always try to get better and hardly ever compare myself to anyone. It would be nice to be in top 3 but I don't really care if I'm 20th or 50th if my time is better than last time.
I'm 27, so not that old :P but started seriously running only this year. I'm 191cm (6'3'') tall so I'm not really build for it.

I've never been a runner that focused on time.....because, I knew I'd never be at the top. I'm super impressed by these times you guys are talking about....just so much dedication there. Fantastic work!!!! 

 My first Marathon I ran in 2010 was the only time I was 'time' focused and I wanted to do it in under 4 hours. I finished the first 13.1 miles in 1hr 49 minutes and had a good pace going. Then about a mile into the second half my IT band blew up (it'd blown up about three weeks prior and I hadn't ran at all until the race after that) and I could barely move my leg. Broke out into instant tears. I had to walk about half mile or so and I slowly just started to trot...then just pushed through. Finished the Marathon in 4 hours 12 minutes. I was happy with that considering I basically walked 5-10 minutes of it due to that IT band issue. Until my IT band blew up three weeks prior to that race I had no idea what an 'IT band' was. That was freaking brutal. I WAY over trained for that first marathon....which then....turned into me under training for my second one in 2015  :lol  My legs basically told me around mile 20 that they were done for the day so that was fun   :lol  had to really push through that as well.

Nowadays when I road run I'm around a 9:00-9:30 mile depending on the day and how I'm feeling.....and it's usually just my normal 5 mile run I have mapped out for exercise. When I trail run I'm 10:00-11:00 minute miles. I just don't run fast....but my pace doesn't change with the elevations...I just plod away.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2022, 03:21:15 PM
Nice to have you following Tomi.  :tup

Legs are cooked today.  Logged a 5km yesterday in just under 23 minutes.  4:35 average per km.  2 seconds off my PB apparently.  How people can get under 20 minutes for a 5km is literally mindblowing to me.  Can't comprehend it just yet.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.

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Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2022, 03:23:07 PM
Even 22 minutes feels a long way off to me to be honest.  I dunno, just keep plugging away I guess.  Will come in time......maybe lol.

When doing faster 5km runs I try not to look at the speed and progress as I'm going.  Might need to change that and watch it the whole time.  Might make me push harder once I start to slip past the goal time of the run.
Interval training might help. You have to get used to the speed, even if it's just 400/800/1000m at the time.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.
Lol it's a great time, better than majority of us will ever come close to. I always try to get better and hardly ever compare myself to anyone. It would be nice to be in top 3 but I don't really care if I'm 20th or 50th if my time is better than last time.
I'm 27, so not that old :P but started seriously running only this year. I'm 191cm (6'3'') tall so I'm not really build for it.

YES!!  This is my philosophy too.  I'm only really trying to compete against myself.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2022, 03:27:48 PM
Even 22 minutes feels a long way off to me to be honest.  I dunno, just keep plugging away I guess.  Will come in time......maybe lol.

When doing faster 5km runs I try not to look at the speed and progress as I'm going.  Might need to change that and watch it the whole time.  Might make me push harder once I start to slip past the goal time of the run.
Interval training might help. You have to get used to the speed, even if it's just 400/800/1000m at the time.

Long-distance running has always been my jam, but a few years ago (mid 30's) I got it in my head that I wanted to win a 5k. I trained all summer, worked on speed work, weight-training with the legs, the whole 9 yards.

On a training run, I posted 17:15 and was ecstatic. Signed up for a race, posted a 17 something. Doesn't matter, bc while I won my division, some 16 year old kid posted 15 minutes flat.

The lesson learned? Running (like just about everything in life) is a young man's game ;D

BTW—if you go a running forum and talk about running 17 minute 5ks (a mistake I've made a time or two), you will literally get torn to shreds by dudes who claim anything that isn't sub 15 isn't worth talking about.
Lol it's a great time, better than majority of us will ever come close to. I always try to get better and hardly ever compare myself to anyone. It would be nice to be in top 3 but I don't really care if I'm 20th or 50th if my time is better than last time.
I'm 27, so not that old :P but started seriously running only this year. I'm 191cm (6'3'') tall so I'm not really build for it.

I've never been a runner that focused on time.....because, I knew I'd never be at the top. I'm super impressed by these times you guys are talking about....just so much dedication there. Fantastic work!!!! 

 My first Marathon I ran in 2010 was the only time I was 'time' focused and I wanted to do it in under 4 hours. I finished the first 13.1 miles in 1hr 49 minutes and had a good pace going. Then about a mile into the second half my IT band blew up (it'd blown up about three weeks prior and I hadn't ran at all until the race after that) and I could barely move my leg. Broke out into instant tears. I had to walk about half mile or so and I slowly just started to trot...then just pushed through. Finished the Marathon in 4 hours 12 minutes. I was happy with that considering I basically walked 5-10 minutes of it due to that IT band issue. Until my IT band blew up three weeks prior to that race I had no idea what an 'IT band' was. That was freaking brutal. I WAY over trained for that first marathon....which then....turned into me under training for my second one in 2015  :lol  My legs basically told me around mile 20 that they were done for the day so that was fun   :lol  had to really push through that as well.

Nowadays when I road run I'm around a 9:00-9:30 mile depending on the day and how I'm feeling.....and it's usually just my normal 5 mile run I have mapped out for exercise. When I trail run I'm 10:00-11:00 minute miles. I just don't run fast....but my pace doesn't change with the elevations...I just plod away.

Was that a specific injury to your IT band Gary, or just super tight?  I found lately foam rolling the IT's more is making a big difference.

The elevations get me though, they kill my pace.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 31, 2022, 03:55:19 PM
From what I know and have read….it was just a classic case of ‘runners knee’. Sharp, painful….shooting pain down the outside of my left knee. I’ve only experienced it that one time there for about a month. I was just putting in way too ma h mikes with no proper recovery or maintenance
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2022, 04:58:37 PM
From what I know and have read….it was just a classic case of ‘runners knee’. Sharp, painful….shooting pain down the outside of my left knee. I’ve only experienced it that one time there for about a month. I was just putting in way too ma h mikes with no proper recovery or maintenance

Pretty similar to what put me out for a few months at the start of the year.  My issue was more ankle but was all because of all the use but lack of recovery.  Such a chore but I found out the hard way.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2022, 06:02:10 AM

What's involved in your 5km training mate?


Easy runs
Speedwork - mutiple 400/800/1000m reps close to my target pace with jog inbetween
Longer runs on weekend
...and something I don't do nearly enough - some strength training
...and maybe throw in some fun non-structured runs (fartlek)

Nice.  I need to do more speedwork.  I don't do any of that interval kind of stuff.

Strength training is tough to balance, especially if you incorporate lots of deads, squats and lunges in.  Very helpful though I feel.

Did some interval runs tonight on the treadmill.  Basically did 400m at 10kpm (6.00 p/km) and then 400m at 13.5kpm (4.27 p/km) and alternated that for about 5km.  Was tough but sub 4.30 is my goal for a 5km.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2022, 03:59:51 AM
Nice to have you following Tomi.  :tup

Legs are cooked today.  Logged a 5km yesterday in just under 23 minutes.  4:35 average per km.  2 seconds off my PB apparently.  How people can get under 20 minutes for a 5km is literally mindblowing to me.  Can't comprehend it just yet.

As you lads saw, managed a 10km at 46:54 which is 4:41 average p/km.  Not sure how the fuck I did that and beat my PB by 11 seconds per km to be honest.  I was at the 5km and was over the 23 minute mark but felt okay so pushed for the 10km.  While still cutting that down to even sub 4:30 per km seems wild for 5km, maybe it's not as unachievable for me as I first thought.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 04, 2022, 11:16:37 AM
Yeah, that was a mighty fine pace! Some days you just get in that groove,  and end up genuinely  surprised with your results afterwards.   You're young enough that i think your goal is very achievable with a little work.  You're clearly well on your way
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2022, 04:39:19 PM
Yeah, that was a mighty fine pace! Some days you just get in that groove,  and end up genuinely  surprised with your results afterwards.   You're young enough that i think your goal is very achievable with a little work.  You're clearly well on your way

Thanks Rich.  Yeah, I'm kinda keen to see how fit/fast I can get, but you're right, some days a good run just clicks.  The end goal of an ultra is definitely looking like more of a reality each week. 

PS. While I'm no father mate, the photo of you and your son really warmed my heart. Beautiful.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 04, 2022, 06:34:29 PM
Thanks Kade. Wasn't sure his little 6 year old legs would make it up the mountain,  but he was a little trooper
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2022, 06:38:16 PM
First thing I actually thought mate was how much of an impressive effort that was from him, especially at 6 years of age.  11.5km with half a km of elevation, damn solid, love to see it haha.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 10, 2022, 05:50:19 PM
How are those legs, Kade? Lots of mileage so far this weekend
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2022, 06:01:32 PM
How are those legs, Kade? Lots of mileage so far this weekend

I was trashed after yesterday mate, really really sore.  Yesterday felt slower than 5:32 pace so I'm pretty happy but had 2 gels on me helped but if I'm looking at these longer distances, I gotta look at one of those water things or a pack or something.  It was quite warm later in the run and by km 22-23 I felt like I was gonna pass out, I needed fluids.  So need to look into that.

This morning I had to get up earlier to go into work to fix something and felt awful lol.  As soon as I started the 10km, it felt dreadful.  I need to make more of an effort to eat back the calories I burn in longer runs it seems.  I was surprised with a 5:06 pace, cause it was awful.  So I'm definitely improving.  As you mentioned, the nutrition and hydration I need to be better at.  The gels are mighty helpful though, really good stuff.

As you saw I did a few morning 10km also through the week and I'm also doubling down after the weights with usually a slower 5km on the treadmill, or some intervals, so I'm certainly put a lot more mileage this week than I'm use to.  Interested in how I pull up tomorrow.  Sleep last night wasn't great just from the aching in the legs through the night!  :lol

Nice ride too mate, I'm sure the hills were worth the ice cream.  The kids seem to think so!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 04:52:32 PM
I guess it had to happen.  Was doing an easy recovery type run on the treadmill last night.  My right leg was the one I had issues with but I've managed it okay.  Halfway through felt a sharp pain in my shin.  Thought it was tightness and tried to run it out.  Stopped at 5km but I don't think so.  :lol  The pain when I try and flex my foot up or down is intense.   :facepalm:

'Working/DTFing' from home most of today as the car had to go in for a service so plenty of icing, rolling and stretching.  I really hope this doesn't put me out too long.  Fuck injuries. :tdwn
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on September 12, 2022, 07:49:54 PM
Shin splits and/or plantar fasciitis?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 07:55:43 PM
Shin splits and/or plantar fasciitis?

More like a shin split pain, but I've never had it like this before.  My calf is tight as fuck so I'm working hard on it today.  Like really really tight!  Already it's eased a little just a little working on the calf so I'm hoping it's more over tightness like I initially thought last night.  Hoping I've overreacted.

it's my fault, after the miles on the weekend I didn't roll as much as I should have cause I was so exhausted from the running.  I think I'm pushing the volume a little too quick too over time.  You get some damn complacent so damn quick with the recovery though. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on September 12, 2022, 08:01:31 PM
Needing to do recovery time always just pisses me off. My brain is like "what the hell, body?!"

Lots of water, walking on toes, then walking on heels helps when my calves are too tight. Also using a rolling stick (not foam) and compression socks.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 08:03:20 PM
Needing to do recovery time always just pisses me off. My brain is like "what the hell, body?!"

Lots of water, walking on toes, then walking on heels helps when my calves are too tight. Also using a rolling stick (not foam) and compression socks.

Wow, interesting, will try.

I've seen those rolling sticks, thought it was just the same thing though.  Truth be told though, when I need something harder, like this morning, I'm using a cricket ball.  That gets deep.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Implode on September 26, 2022, 08:34:46 AM
Accomplished a huge milestone in dance game stamina the other day (which I'll post about here because I feel it's much more relevant to fitness than video games, but correct me if I'm wrong).

I passed my first block level 19 song, which in this case is an hour and a half song with over 50,000 steps (average of over 9 steps per second). And not only was it the hardest thing I've done, but it didn't feel too painful to do. My HR was maxed out only in the 170s, which is a great sign of me keeping my form efficient and keeping breathing under control.

Been resting the past few days to avoid injury and tendonitis type things, but I'm excited to work to improve more soon.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 26, 2022, 09:39:42 AM
Maxed out HR was "only in the 170s" lol. At my age,  that's about as high as i ever want my HR. My vision starts to go dark when i crest 180 bpm
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Implode on September 26, 2022, 01:07:13 PM
 :lol

The saying goes 220 – [your age] right? Just a couple years ago, I was hitting 200. But now 190's is when I'm really hitting the wall. I'm 31. Last year I did something where I was maintaining 180 for like an hour straight. Hopefully that's still safe.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2022, 04:55:20 PM
I don't think I've even seen my HR get into the 170's.  I don't think I'd want it that high either truthfully.  Or I'm not just working hard enough.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2022, 08:24:15 AM
Running a Half Marathon on Saturday....the annual Fall season half I do each year. Haven't really trained all that much for it but have been in a good habit of running for exercise the past few months. I've dropped 25lbs over that time so that'll be easier on the ol' knees/body for sure. Not looking to break any time records or anything like that.....these days when I do my spring/fall halves it's simply 'finish'  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 27, 2022, 08:34:37 AM
Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but I began having all sorts of health-related issues a few years ago—heart palpitations, constant colds and flus, etc.

Then a cardiologist diagnosed me with a heart block and some scarring on my heart ("very common" he said with distance runners my age)

Somebody mentioned 'overtraining' to me, and recommended the MAF (https://philmaffetone.com/method/ (https://philmaffetone.com/method/)) method. At my wit's end, I bought in completely.

The TL;DR version is this: Max Heartrate is, at best, an arbitrary number, and that many of us train way too hard for way too long, which leads to increased fat and other issues.

My MAF method to begin was 130—don't let your heart go above that number.

At first, even a brisk jog would have me in the 160's, which meant that I basically shuffeled for a few minutes and then had to walk.

A couple of years later, following this method religiously, I can run an 8-minute mile without my heartrate going over 130. My walking heartrate is 20bpm lower than it was at the beginning, and my HR recovery is at least triple what it was.

The best part? I run less, I walk more, and I am around 9or 10% bodyfat year round. I feel good, and haven't had a cold in two years. It's almost like I went back to my mid-20's.

I guess the takeaway here is don't work-out harder, work-out smarter.

Anyone struggling with constant plateaus, I'd recommend giving this method a try.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2022, 08:40:53 AM
Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but I began having all sorts of health-related issues a few years ago—heart palpitations, constant colds and flus, etc.

Then a cardiologist diagnosed me with a heart block and some scarring on my heart ("very common" he said with distance runners my age)

Somebody mentioned 'overtraining' to me, and recommended the MAF (https://philmaffetone.com/method/ (https://philmaffetone.com/method/)) method. At my wit's end, I bought in completely.

The TL;DR version is this: Max Heartrate is, at best, an arbitrary number, and that many of us train way too hard for way too long, which leads to increased fat and other issues.

My MAF method to begin was 130—don't let your heart go above that number.

At first, even a brisk jog would have me in the 160's, which meant that I basically shuffeled for a few minutes and then had to walk.

A couple of years later, following this method religiously, I can run an 8-minute mile without my heartrate going over 130. My walking heartrate is 20bpm lower than it was at the beginning, and my HR recovery is at least triple what it was.

The best part? I run less, I walk more, and I am around 9or 10% bodyfat year round. I feel good, and haven't had a cold in two years. It's almost like I went back to my mid-20's.

I guess the takeaway here is don't work-out harder, work-out smarter.

Anyone struggling with constant plateaus, I'd recommend giving this method a try.

That is interesting as heck. I'm going to look into this more......great advice, thanks.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 27, 2022, 09:11:29 AM
I often train to HR data, but i view HR as an individual metric. I know athletes who can easily hit 200 bpm, whereas that would almost certainly kill me given how my body reacts to a 180bpm clip. For me, it's more of a tool to use alongside perceived effort. It usually goes like this on the bike:

Check that cadence is in my sweet spot
Check my HR
Check my body

There are times where my HR suggests i could go faster,  but my legs say otherwise.  In the end,  the body gets last call. If you're training for a race or some goal that requires a high output for a long period, then you have to train at high intensity some of the time.  Otherwise,  i agree that you can get plenty fit and healthy with moderate efforts.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on October 27, 2022, 09:17:18 AM
Just read that link,  and it basically says to train at exactly the HR i train at lol.

It's kinda funny that my friend's avg HR for the bike portion of a triathlon this summer was above the base starting point in the MAF calculation.  He hit 183bpm avg for almost 3hrs straight.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 27, 2022, 10:10:41 AM
Just read that link,  and it basically says to train at exactly the HR i train at lol.

It's kinda funny that my friend's avg HR for the bike portion of a triathlon this summer was above the base starting point in the MAF calculation.  He hit 183bpm avg for almost 3hrs straight.

At the risk of being reductive, I think the point for most who opt in to MAF training is that they are over-trained and getting diminished returns (i.e., me).

If you are good with what you are doing, then there is no reason to mess with a winning formula.

I think guys my age ('40s) with a long-track record of sustained training tend to fall into overtraining at one point or another. At this stage in my life, I'm more interested in sustainable fitness—I have no interest in killing myself in the name of PB-chasing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 27, 2022, 10:15:33 AM
I think guys my age ('40s) with a long-track record of sustained training tend to fall into overtraining at one point or another. At this stage in my life, I'm more interested in sustainable fitness—I have no interest in killing myself in the name of PB-chasing.

This is me. I'm well past any PB aspirations (if I ever had them) I'm just about staying active with a good running and exercise regiment and I sign up for a spring and fall half in order to keep myself somewhat motivated. I know I can go power through 13 miles on minimum training because I've done it numerous times. Some years/races are better than others and it's usually tied to what type of weight I'm running at. This same race last fall I weighed 190lbs and I hardly trained or ran at all leading into it. I'm weighing in these days close to 170 (I had gotten up to 196) and have had a good running regiment going most of the summer so I'm not as apprehensive about running it this saturday. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on October 27, 2022, 12:42:20 PM
I did the MAF for 2 years to train for a half and full and never saw what I would consider major gains. I don't think the program works the same for women. Our heart rates are higher and I was always frustrated that I had to essentially walk in zone 2 or if I adjusted I had to fly in zone 3 to get my rate high enough.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2022, 03:59:46 PM
Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but I began having all sorts of health-related issues a few years ago—heart palpitations, constant colds and flus, etc.

Then a cardiologist diagnosed me with a heart block and some scarring on my heart ("very common" he said with distance runners my age)

Somebody mentioned 'overtraining' to me, and recommended the MAF (https://philmaffetone.com/method/ (https://philmaffetone.com/method/)) method. At my wit's end, I bought in completely.

The TL;DR version is this: Max Heartrate is, at best, an arbitrary number, and that many of us train way too hard for way too long, which leads to increased fat and other issues.

My MAF method to begin was 130—don't let your heart go above that number.

At first, even a brisk jog would have me in the 160's, which meant that I basically shuffeled for a few minutes and then had to walk.

A couple of years later, following this method religiously, I can run an 8-minute mile without my heartrate going over 130. My walking heartrate is 20bpm lower than it was at the beginning, and my HR recovery is at least triple what it was.

The best part? I run less, I walk more, and I am around 9or 10% bodyfat year round. I feel good, and haven't had a cold in two years. It's almost like I went back to my mid-20's.

I guess the takeaway here is don't work-out harder, work-out smarter.

Anyone struggling with constant plateaus, I'd recommend giving this method a try.

This is the method I've been using the last few months to improve my running and my overall speed.  Your results here mate are excellent and great to read.  I've been doing nightly treadmill runs at my designated heart rate which is around 140-145.  At first I was hitting that at 9kpm, but now can sit comfortably over 11kpm.  As I said, only a few months for me but it's improved my fitness and running speed a lot. 

The work out smarter not harder is legit.  Before I started all this, my running was improving but injuries got in the way.  The thing I took out of all this was that back then I was forcing the speed each run causing injuries instead of doing the ground work and letting the speed come naturally.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2022, 04:00:37 PM
I did the MAF for 2 years to train for a half and full and never saw what I would consider major gains. I don't think the program works the same for women. Our heart rates are higher and I was always frustrated that I had to essentially walk in zone 2 or if I adjusted I had to fly in zone 3 to get my rate high enough.

I think you're onto something here with this method and females truthfully.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2022, 04:08:54 PM
Just read that link,  and it basically says to train at exactly the HR i train at lol.

It's kinda funny that my friend's avg HR for the bike portion of a triathlon this summer was above the base starting point in the MAF calculation.  He hit 183bpm avg for almost 3hrs straight.

 :eek
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2022, 04:12:12 PM
I often train to HR data, but i view HR as an individual metric. I know athletes who can easily hit 200 bpm, whereas that would almost certainly kill me given how my body reacts to a 180bpm clip. For me, it's more of a tool to use alongside perceived effort. It usually goes like this on the bike:

Check that cadence is in my sweet spot
Check my HR
Check my body

There are times where my HR suggests i could go faster,  but my legs say otherwise.  In the end,  the body gets last call. If you're training for a race or some goal that requires a high output for a long period, then you have to train at high intensity some of the time.  Otherwise,  i agree that you can get plenty fit and healthy with moderate efforts.

Good post Rich.  This is where I'm at.  The MAF training I've been doing has made me quite efficient.  but times when I'm going pretty much near as fast as my legs can take me, my average is sitting around 150bom?  WTF?!  There is no way during these times my legs could push 20 more bpms.  No way.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2022, 04:14:50 PM
Just read that link,  and it basically says to train at exactly the HR i train at lol.

It's kinda funny that my friend's avg HR for the bike portion of a triathlon this summer was above the base starting point in the MAF calculation.  He hit 183bpm avg for almost 3hrs straight.

At the risk of being reductive, I think the point for most who opt in to MAF training is that they are over-trained and getting diminished returns (i.e., me).

If you are good with what you are doing, then there is no reason to mess with a winning formula.

I think guys my age ('40s) with a long-track record of sustained training tend to fall into overtraining at one point or another. At this stage in my life, I'm more interested in sustainable fitness—I have no interest in killing myself in the name of PB-chasing.

This is something that is very difficult for me to adopt but I know it's the smartest play.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2022, 11:30:19 AM
Race morning started with a beautiful sunrise and it just kept on from there. Great day to run...was low 60's....full sun....felt great out.

I kept a pretty good pace (for me) considering all I've detailed that I don't really train much for these anymore and just kind of 'wing it'. Finished the Half in 2hrs 12min.....10:05 min pace. Not breaking any records by any means but the course is VERY hilly and I kept moving the whole time....no stopping or anything so I'll take it for an aging 46 year old  :lol

I looked up my time from last year when I was 25lbs heavier and it was 2hrs 24min with a 11:01 min pace so I did improve a bit.


The Finisher Medals look pretty sweet also:

(https://i.imgur.com/q09QLEc.jpg)

Sunrise:

(https://i.imgur.com/hh40Jax.jpg)

Obligatory 'finish' pic:

(https://i.imgur.com/j5Qa99v.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: DragonAttack on October 30, 2022, 11:42:44 AM
I walked between 5-7 miles in NYC four years ago. It’s been longer since I walked for nine holes golfing.

So…,kudos!👍
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Great stuff Gary.  Looks like the scenery alone was worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2022, 03:48:06 PM
Still running a lot myself.  Still hammering away and the other day managed a 5km PB at 4:23 pace per km, so definitely improving which is nice.  Very happy with that PB, not sure what the next goal is yet.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2022, 04:00:57 PM
Great stuff Gary.  Looks like the scenery alone was worth it.

Yeah....it was. 8 of the 13 miles was through the woods on trails, very peaceful and beautiful. The first two and last three were on pavement.....but it was GREAT running weather.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on November 03, 2022, 05:56:25 AM
Congrats :tup

My running's been up and down lately. Wasn't sick for 2-3 years and now I got 2nd cold in 2 months. Still might join city league this weekend, there are 4.2 and 10 kms runs every weekend, it is something to make me work harder and look forward to something.
My long term goal for next year is 1:45 half-marathon (5:00 min/km pace). I'm nowhere near but I plan to implement more long runs into my training soon.

Also, great to have some of you on Strava, I really check your activities to get motivated :tup

Did "urban trail" on Halloween (still in city but mostly through parks). Fun but really non competitive run, most of us got lost :lol Great looking medal.
(https://i.imgur.com/zNnLhtA.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on November 03, 2022, 06:01:46 AM
Great stuff Gary.  Looks like the scenery alone was worth it.

Yeah....it was. 8 of the 13 miles was through the woods on trails, very peaceful and beautiful. The first two and last three were on pavement.....but it was GREAT running weather.

Sounds like my kind of race...congrats, btw, on the finish!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 03, 2022, 08:19:05 AM
Congrats :tup

My running's been up and down lately. Wasn't sick for 2-3 years and now I got 2nd cold in 2 months. Still might join city league this weekend, there are 4.2 and 10 kms runs every weekend, it is something to make me work harder and look forward to something.
My long term goal for next year is 1:45 half-marathon (5:00 min/km pace). I'm nowhere near but I plan to implement more long runs into my training soon.

Also, great to have some of you on Strava, I really check your activities to get motivated :tup

Did "urban trail" on Halloween (still in city but mostly through parks). Fun but really non competitive run, most of us got lost :lol Great looking medal.
(https://i.imgur.com/zNnLhtA.jpg)

That is a fine looking medal!

The interesting design on finisher's medals is part of the fun of doing events. I've rarely actually 'raced' an event for a PB. I mostly do them for the experience, challenge (sometimes), and the swag. Did an urban fondo bike race this summer that was held on a fantastic course completely closed to traffic. Can't experience that without doing the event. And the swag bag included a can of local craft beer and a massive donut from a local shop called 'Donut Party'. Easily the best swag bag I've received after an event.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2022, 08:35:12 AM
That is a fine looking medal!

The interesting design on finisher's medals is part of the fun of doing events. I've rarely actually 'raced' an event for a PB. I mostly do them for the experience, challenge (sometimes), and the swag. Did an urban fondo bike race this summer that was held on a fantastic course completely closed to traffic. Can't experience that without doing the event. And the swag bag included a can of local craft beer and a massive donut from a local shop called 'Donut Party'. Easily the best swag bag I've received after an event.

Yeah....cool looking medal and agree. At this point, I don't run for PB's or to 'win'.....I just love a nice, cool looking Finishers medal or swag. I usually order whatever hoodie or shirt as well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2022, 04:15:03 PM
I dunno, as much as I'm enjoying my running, I'm just not interested at all in entering a race.

My long term goal for next year is 1:45 half-marathon (5:00 min/km pace).

I'm thinking this is my next goal too.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2022, 05:07:36 PM
That is a fine looking medal!

The interesting design on finisher's medals is part of the fun of doing events. I've rarely actually 'raced' an event for a PB. I mostly do them for the experience, challenge (sometimes), and the swag. Did an urban fondo bike race this summer that was held on a fantastic course completely closed to traffic. Can't experience that without doing the event. And the swag bag included a can of local craft beer and a massive donut from a local shop called 'Donut Party'. Easily the best swag bag I've received after an event.

Yeah....cool looking medal and agree. At this point, I don't run for PB's or to 'win'.....I just love a nice, cool looking Finishers medal or swag. I usually order whatever hoodie or shirt as well.


I created a rudimentary wood medal display with some dowels, length of wood and some stain a while back on the back side of the soffit that separates my office from the entry foyer. The only one missing from here is the medal from my first full marathon which is in a shadow box I made to commemorate the experience.


(https://i.imgur.com/TIi5VpR.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2022, 05:32:03 PM
That's a lot of medals.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2022, 07:57:37 PM
That's a lot of medals.

They add up for sure. Ive run at least one half a year since 2010, a lot of those years I did a spring and fall half……there were two fulls (2010/2016) but mostly just half’s.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2022, 08:55:59 PM
I should enter one........one day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on December 31, 2022, 05:44:17 AM
BUUUUMP

Hit my goal this year to average a 5k everyday! Next years goal is to lose 20lbs, 25lbs is the stretch goal. Those last 5 are always so hard. So I'm gonna start making my plan for cross training.
What are your favorite bodyweight and dumbbell moves?
What are your favorite meals that are under 400cal? I usually aim for low carb, focusing on meat and veg but salads and tilapia get old pretty quick.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2022, 06:46:46 AM
BUUUUMP

Hit my goal this year to average a 5k everyday! Next years goal is to lose 20lbs, 25lbs is the stretch goal. Those last 5 are always so hard. So I'm gonna start making my plan for cross training.
What are your favorite bodyweight and dumbbell moves?
What are your favorite meals that are under 400cal? I usually aim for low carb, focusing on meat and veg but salads and tilapia get old pretty quick.

Bodyweight - Burpees, pushups, tricep dips
DB - Goblet squats, bulgarian lunges, man-makers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDt_UUBE9RQ), grave-diggers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x3-ITz0qLI)

After a nice few years of discipline around my exercise and nutrition, 2022 sucked ass.  Between injury, depression, COVID, and other shit, I've fallen so far completely  off the wagon - haven't worked out once since early July.  Really wish I could find the energy/drive/care to do so, but it just ain't there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2023, 04:17:10 AM
BUUUUMP

Hit my goal this year to average a 5k everyday! Next years goal is to lose 20lbs, 25lbs is the stretch goal. Those last 5 are always so hard. So I'm gonna start making my plan for cross training.
What are your favorite bodyweight and dumbbell moves?
What are your favorite meals that are under 400cal? I usually aim for low carb, focusing on meat and veg but salads and tilapia get old pretty quick.

That's a really nice achievement.  That's not easy to do, well done.

For me, it's push-ups, pull ups and some dips.  Dumbbells I like some simple thrusters.

400 calories........my quick go to at the moment is tuna, a little rice and veg.  Or a protein shake with a little PB and almond milk.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2023, 04:19:19 AM
BUUUUMP

Hit my goal this year to average a 5k everyday! Next years goal is to lose 20lbs, 25lbs is the stretch goal. Those last 5 are always so hard. So I'm gonna start making my plan for cross training.
What are your favorite bodyweight and dumbbell moves?
What are your favorite meals that are under 400cal? I usually aim for low carb, focusing on meat and veg but salads and tilapia get old pretty quick.

Bodyweight - Burpees, pushups, tricep dips
DB - Goblet squats, bulgarian lunges, man-makers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDt_UUBE9RQ), grave-diggers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x3-ITz0qLI)

After a nice few years of discipline around my exercise and nutrition, 2022 sucked ass.  Between injury, depression, COVID, and other shit, I've fallen so far completely  off the wagon - haven't worked out once since early July.  Really wish I could find the energy/drive/care to do so, but it just ain't there.

Just do it brother.  Just schedule, 30-45 minutes a day and do something.  Not everyday I want to train and/or run, but I always feel worse when I bork and don't do it.  I MAKE myself do it, not matter what.  You may find the groove may come back.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: ReaperKK on January 01, 2023, 08:24:12 AM
Getting the groove back is the hardest thing and I've been struggling with it after my hernia surgery.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 01, 2023, 08:39:27 AM
Getting the groove back is the hardest thing and I've been struggling with it after my hernia surgery.

Yep. I dropped 25lbs last year and then around November just fell off my routine and started eating bad again and yadda yadda yadda…..I’ve put back on 15 of those pounds.

My sis in law asked me to run a half marathon with her in April so I’d did sign up for that being that I like to run a spring and fall half each year……so, I’ll just get back in the groove here now and try to drop 10-15lbs prior to that race.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: hunnus2000 on January 01, 2023, 08:52:37 AM
BUUUUMP

Hit my goal this year to average a 5k everyday! Next years goal is to lose 20lbs, 25lbs is the stretch goal. Those last 5 are always so hard. So I'm gonna start making my plan for cross training.
What are your favorite bodyweight and dumbbell moves?
What are your favorite meals that are under 400cal? I usually aim for low carb, focusing on meat and veg but salads and tilapia get old pretty quick.

Bodyweight - Burpees, pushups, tricep dips
DB - Goblet squats, bulgarian lunges, man-makers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDt_UUBE9RQ), grave-diggers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x3-ITz0qLI)

After a nice few years of discipline around my exercise and nutrition, 2022 sucked ass.  Between injury, depression, COVID, and other shit, I've fallen so far completely  off the wagon - haven't worked out once since early July.  Really wish I could find the energy/drive/care to do so, but it just ain't there.

I feel ya Bro. 2022 sucked for working out for me, I just had no motivation.

For 2023, I have vowed to at least 30min a day on the recumbent and then bench presses. Hopefully I will get back into burpees and mountain climbers etc...

Also, I think I see an outdoor bicycle in my future.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on January 11, 2023, 05:32:27 PM
So I hired a trainer.  I'm only one week in and I think I'm going to die. 

Help me.... :'(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on January 11, 2023, 06:22:43 PM
So I hired a trainer.  I'm only one week in and I think I'm going to die. 

Help me.... :'(
It's gets easier if you can just stick to it until your body adjusts.  And by easier, of course i really mean you just get used to being sore all day every day. Just think of it like this: would you rather hurt because you're exercising and getting healthy? Or would you rather hurt because you're not, and your body is breaking down from poor health?   Personally,  I'll take the former all day every day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2023, 03:48:27 AM
So I hired a trainer.  I'm only one week in and I think I'm going to die. 

Help me.... :'(

No pain, no gain.

Embrace it.  It's the start of a wonderful journey if you want it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on January 12, 2023, 05:40:56 AM
So I hired a trainer.  I'm only one week in and I think I'm going to die. 

Help me.... :'(

Make sure you communicate the pains and soreness or whatever you have going on to the trainer. They may need to pull back on reps or weight for you if its too much.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: T-ski on February 04, 2023, 11:31:34 AM
So I gained some weight over the holidays.

I’ve been pretty fortunate in that my metabolism has treated me fairly well in my adult years. I turned 50 last spring and I had a job where walking around was pretty common. But I quit that job in November and since then I have put on 10-12 pounds due to inactivity. I’ll begin a new job Monday and I’ve notice my dress pants and shirts are almost too small.

So I’ve hit my wifes treadmill.

I’ve done three “runs” over the last six days where I brisk walk for 4 minutes then jog for 2 minutes throughout a half hours time. It seems to be going okay except my shins and calves are really painful when I get back on the treadmill.

Looking for some tips/advice for stretches or anything else that will help.

My wife and kid do 5k’s and I’d like to be able to one with them this summer.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on February 04, 2023, 04:13:29 PM
So I gained some weight over the holidays.

I’ve been pretty fortunate in that my metabolism has treated me fairly well in my adult years. I turned 50 last spring and I had a job where walking around was pretty common. But I quit that job in November and since then I have put on 10-12 pounds due to inactivity. I’ll begin a new job Monday and I’ve notice my dress pants and shirts are almost too small.

So I’ve hit my wifes treadmill.

I’ve done three “runs” over the last six days where I brisk walk for 4 minutes then jog for 2 minutes throughout a half hours time. It seems to be going okay except my shins and calves are really painful when I get back on the treadmill.

Looking for some tips/advice for stretches or anything else that will help.

My wife and kid do 5k’s and I’d like to be able to one with them this summer.

Do you put the treadmill on any sort of incline? When I've had shin and calve issues I've walked them out by switching between walking on my heels and then walking on my toes. Also compression socks overnight and making sure to be hydrated.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2023, 03:41:48 AM
So I gained some weight over the holidays.

I’ve been pretty fortunate in that my metabolism has treated me fairly well in my adult years. I turned 50 last spring and I had a job where walking around was pretty common. But I quit that job in November and since then I have put on 10-12 pounds due to inactivity. I’ll begin a new job Monday and I’ve notice my dress pants and shirts are almost too small.

So I’ve hit my wifes treadmill.

I’ve done three “runs” over the last six days where I brisk walk for 4 minutes then jog for 2 minutes throughout a half hours time. It seems to be going okay except my shins and calves are really painful when I get back on the treadmill.

Looking for some tips/advice for stretches or anything else that will help.

My wife and kid do 5k’s and I’d like to be able to one with them this summer.

Pretty common when you start out.  Don't go too hard too fast and trigger pointing and rolling is your friend.  You'll find that a lot of shin pain is due to calf tightness.  From my experience anyway.  Massage and stretch them.  Just google and there's heaps out there.  This one is probably my go to...

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyj6-JtYzxPAnJeg-IX4IQz3vn0fTgSb-IKA&usqp=CAU)

Also shoes.  Make sure you have new and decent running shoes.  Maybe some with lots of cushioning.  Running in old worn out cheap runners will destroy your lower legs.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on February 05, 2023, 07:30:11 PM
Wolfking is 100% spot on.  That simple stretch has made a HUGE difference for me.  I was thinking I had plantar fasciitis or something but it turned out it was my calf, not my foot at all.  I was just talking about new shoes today too.  I'm going to go to a running store and have them evaluate my stride and recommend me a new brand.  I've been wearing Sauconys for a long time but lately, they aren't cutting it for me.  Certainly our feet change with aging like everything else does.  And most people don't change out their shoes often enough.  They are expensive so it is understandable.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: T-ski on February 05, 2023, 07:37:26 PM
Thanks for the tips!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2023, 03:29:50 AM
Wolfking is 100% spot on.  That simple stretch has made a HUGE difference for me.  I was thinking I had plantar fasciitis or something but it turned out it was my calf, not my foot at all.  I was just talking about new shoes today too.  I'm going to go to a running store and have them evaluate my stride and recommend me a new brand.  I've been wearing Sauconys for a long time but lately, they aren't cutting it for me.  Certainly our feet change with aging like everything else does.  And most people don't change out their shoes often enough.  They are expensive so it is understandable.

That stretch is a game changer.  My advice though is hold it, not for like 30 seconds, for a few minutes then repeat.  Massage the crap out of the calf beforehand too, then stretch as you'll get more knots out.

I have a pair of Saucony Endorphin Speeds 2 still in the box.  Haven't gotten them out yet.  Hoka is my go to brand.   Rincons are a good shoe and I'm even using the Rocket Xs a lot.  I have a pair of Clifton's still in the box but haven't tried them yet either.

However, if you want a beautiful cushioned running shoe, I'm loving my pair of Novablast 3s from Asics.  What a wonderful shoe.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: chknptpie on February 06, 2023, 05:45:05 AM
I have a bit of a blessing and curse when it comes to shoes. My feet are small so I buy youth sizes - much less expensive. However, my selection is pretty limited. I've stuck with Nike Revolutions for several years and have two pairs going at a time since I run almost every day. I add a new pair every 6 months and rotate out the oldest which becomes a daily shoe or yard work shoe. The shoe probably has 500 miles by the year mark that its rotated out and I wonder if a different brand would have a longer life for me but hate the idea of having to find another shoe I like. Such a pain.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on February 06, 2023, 06:27:32 AM
So I gained some weight over the holidays.

I’ve been pretty fortunate in that my metabolism has treated me fairly well in my adult years. I turned 50 last spring and I had a job where walking around was pretty common. But I quit that job in November and since then I have put on 10-12 pounds due to inactivity. I’ll begin a new job Monday and I’ve notice my dress pants and shirts are almost too small.

So I’ve hit my wifes treadmill.

I’ve done three “runs” over the last six days where I brisk walk for 4 minutes then jog for 2 minutes throughout a half hours time. It seems to be going okay except my shins and calves are really painful when I get back on the treadmill.

Looking for some tips/advice for stretches or anything else that will help.

My wife and kid do 5k’s and I’d like to be able to one with them this summer.

Longtime serious runner here—my advice? Skip the running (for now, at least) and focus on walking and diet.

40 minutes of brisk walking is just as good as a 20 minute jog, minus the 'wear and tear' and nasty cortisol spike.

If, and this is a big if, but if you commit and briskly walk (like 3.5-4mph) a day, EVERY DAY, you will be getting all the cardio you need. I also suspect your back and legs will start to feel a bit better.

Also, it will be easier to focus on your diet (which is the REAL battle here), as running will definitely spike your appetite more than walking. Also, get some strength training in there. Honestly, diet & strength training are waaaayyyyy more impactful than doing cardio alone.

Obviously (ahem) your mileage will vary, but that's my two cents.

Also, regarding incline walking—I STRONGLY encourage you to avoid it for all the same reasons I'd encourage someone to avoid running. Way too much stress on you Achilles, and assuming that you aren't stretching daily, it's a very risky proposition.

Finally, you should add 5-10 minutes of stretching post walk. I am shocked by how few people do this—it is simply the best preventative medicine money can't buy.

Trust me, I'm 42 and I've made every mistake in the book and my body has paid the price time and time again ;D I spend 20 minutes a day stretching/rolling/etc., and I haven't had so much as ounce of leg, back, or neck pain in a decade.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 06, 2023, 12:53:35 PM
I mostly agree with WilliamMunny's post, but i don't think avoiding all incline walking is necessary.  If the goal is simply weight loss, and not about improving health,  then sure. If the goal is to improve overall health, then you need to get your HR to a point where your heart is getting stronger.  Mind you,  the OP is 50 so he can probably get there at a very fast walk. Doing incline walks on a treadmill might be overkill,  but it would go a long way to try a walking route that incorporates a reasonably sized hill.

Everything else in the post is gold. Diet and exercise trumps cardio all day every day for weight loss, and stretching is a must of you want to avoid more injuries.

The part about running spiking your diet is 100% accurate.  On my long bike/ski days I'll torch anywhere between 1200-3000 calories. I do eat back some of that during the activity,  but in many cases I'll end up over eating these days regardless.  Big cardio days leave me cratered and hungry all day.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 06, 2023, 01:09:42 PM
Feeling every bit of 47 today. I had a nice 6 mile run yesterday to prep a bit for a trail half I'm running on on 3/5. Then, played two ice hockey games last night at 9:00pm and 10:15pm....was definitely a tad sore this morning  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on February 06, 2023, 01:26:09 PM
I mostly agree with WilliamMunny's post, but i don't think avoiding all incline walking is necessary.  If the goal is simply weight loss, and not about improving health,  then sure. If the goal is to improve overall health, then you need to get your HR to a point where your heart is getting stronger.  Mind you,  the OP is 50 so he can probably get there at a very fast walk. Doing incline walks on a treadmill might be overkill,  but it would go a long way to try a walking route that incorporates a reasonably sized hill.

I've actually been reading some science about oxygenation during cardio and how it impacts overall fitness.  I think nothing beats cardio for heart/lung benefits, but as for muscle fibers and fat loss, less strenuous cardio gets you more bang for your buck.  You don't want to be working so hard you are out of breath.  Then again, I've also read that running vs walking targets visceral fat more (belly).  So yeah, one's goal needs to be taken into account like you said.  But higher HR doesn't always mean better - again unless you are purposefully wanting a stronger heart and/or you are training for running or other sports that require that kind of intense endurance.



 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2023, 02:57:04 PM
So I gained some weight over the holidays.

I’ve been pretty fortunate in that my metabolism has treated me fairly well in my adult years. I turned 50 last spring and I had a job where walking around was pretty common. But I quit that job in November and since then I have put on 10-12 pounds due to inactivity. I’ll begin a new job Monday and I’ve notice my dress pants and shirts are almost too small.

So I’ve hit my wifes treadmill.

I’ve done three “runs” over the last six days where I brisk walk for 4 minutes then jog for 2 minutes throughout a half hours time. It seems to be going okay except my shins and calves are really painful when I get back on the treadmill.

Looking for some tips/advice for stretches or anything else that will help.

My wife and kid do 5k’s and I’d like to be able to one with them this summer.

Longtime serious runner here—my advice? Skip the running (for now, at least) and focus on walking and diet.

40 minutes of brisk walking is just as good as a 20 minute jog, minus the 'wear and tear' and nasty cortisol spike.

If, and this is a big if, but if you commit and briskly walk (like 3.5-4mph) a day, EVERY DAY, you will be getting all the cardio you need. I also suspect your back and legs will start to feel a bit better.

Also, it will be easier to focus on your diet (which is the REAL battle here), as running will definitely spike your appetite more than walking. Also, get some strength training in there. Honestly, diet & strength training are waaaayyyyy more impactful than doing cardio alone.

Obviously (ahem) your mileage will vary, but that's my two cents.

Also, regarding incline walking—I STRONGLY encourage you to avoid it for all the same reasons I'd encourage someone to avoid running. Way too much stress on you Achilles, and assuming that you aren't stretching daily, it's a very risky proposition.

Finally, you should add 5-10 minutes of stretching post walk. I am shocked by how few people do this—it is simply the best preventative medicine money can't buy.

Trust me, I'm 42 and I've made every mistake in the book and my body has paid the price time and time again ;D I spend 20 minutes a day stretching/rolling/etc., and I haven't had so much as ounce of leg, back, or neck pain in a decade.

Can't argue with this post.  I too really like slow incline walking though.  Great for burning some calories.


I mostly agree with WilliamMunny's post, but i don't think avoiding all incline walking is necessary.  If the goal is simply weight loss, and not about improving health,  then sure. If the goal is to improve overall health, then you need to get your HR to a point where your heart is getting stronger.  Mind you,  the OP is 50 so he can probably get there at a very fast walk. Doing incline walks on a treadmill might be overkill,  but it would go a long way to try a walking route that incorporates a reasonably sized hill.

Everything else in the post is gold. Diet and exercise trumps cardio all day every day for weight loss, and stretching is a must of you want to avoid more injuries.

The part about running spiking your diet is 100% accurate.  On my long bike/ski days I'll torch anywhere between 1200-3000 calories. I do eat back some of that during the activity,  but in many cases I'll end up over eating these days regardless.  Big cardio days leave me cratered and hungry all day.

I'm a bit different.  A lot of the times after a decent long run I don't feel like eating at all.  It's weird.  I get the overeating part though, I've certainly done that but sometimes the hunger will come later on in the day and once I actually start eating, that's when the hunger accelerates.

Diet though is indeed something you need to be meticulous about though.  It's cliche, but eating say 500 calories vs burning 500 calories are just two ends of the spectrum.  I also feel people underestimate how much they are eating yet overestimate how much they are burning with exercise.  I think that's a big misconception for most struggling people.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on February 06, 2023, 03:05:32 PM
I mostly agree with WilliamMunny's post, but i don't think avoiding all incline walking is necessary.  If the goal is simply weight loss, and not about improving health,  then sure. If the goal is to improve overall health, then you need to get your HR to a point where your heart is getting stronger.  Mind you,  the OP is 50 so he can probably get there at a very fast walk. Doing incline walks on a treadmill might be overkill,  but it would go a long way to try a walking route that incorporates a reasonably sized hill.

I've actually been reading some science about oxygenation during cardio and how it impacts overall fitness. I think nothing beats cardio for heart/lung benefits, but as for muscle fibers and fat loss, less strenuous cardio gets you more bang for your buck.  You don't want to be working so hard you are out of breath.  Then again, I've also read that running vs walking targets visceral fat more (belly).  So yeah, one's goal needs to be taken into account like you said.  But higher HR doesn't always mean better - again unless you are purposefully wanting a stronger heart and/or you are training for running or other sports that require that kind of intense endurance.

That's essentially my point. It all depends on the goal. A perfect healthy regiment will include a balance of strength, conditioning - stamina and endurance-, mobility (i.e. stretching), and a healthy diet. I love my cardio. But I still strive for 2-3 strength sessions per week to maintain my strength and physique. There's sometimes advantages to being slower or faster, bigger or smaller, shorter or taller, but no person in recorded history has ever said "Gee, I wish I were weaker right now. That would be helpful".
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2023, 03:11:53 PM
The strength sessions are so important.  All the extra running decreases my strength and I have to work damn hard around 4-5 decent sessions in the gym to try and maintain strength, like Rich said.  Went I went through my eating issues years ago, my strength dramatically decreased and that's simply not a good thing no matter how you look at it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: KevShmev on February 16, 2023, 04:23:52 PM
This feels like as good a thread as any for this, but I have allowed myself to fall way too out of shape.  I had stopped going to the gym a few months before the Covid shutdown, so we are talking about 3 1/2 years since I've really done any kind of real exercise. Shameful, I know.

The topper is that I spent 6 1/2 hours at the ER today (on the 1 year of my mom's passing, of all things) because I have had a bit of shortness of breath lately and the occasional very minor chest tightness (not pain, just the feeling like someone is lightly pressing on it).  Apparently, stress and anxiety are the biggest culprit, because my blood pressure was a bit higher than normal, and the EKG showed my heart is fine and the chest exam showed that my lungs are good (that was a major whew given that my mom passed away a year ago of lung disease) and the Covid test was negative, but I think I still need to get back on the exercise regime.  It will be a tough first few weeks, but I need to power through it.  Thinking I will start with some walking and light swimming.

Any other ideas?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2023, 04:45:07 PM
Definitely some walking Kev, that would be your first starting point.  Depending on what you mean by 'light' swimming however, swimming is not something you can just get in the pool and do.  If you have a good and solid swimming background however you could start very slow and concentrate on getting back into your rhythm while focusing hard on your breathing.  But people don't know how to breathe properly when swimming and end up exhausting themselves from very little effort. 

Obviously, diet it critical also.  Power through it is a good mentality but start slow and gradually build up with whatever you do.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on February 16, 2023, 06:21:58 PM
This feels like as good a thread as any for this, but I have allowed myself to fall way too out of shape.  I had stopped going to the gym a few months before the Covid shutdown, so we are talking about 3 1/2 years since I've really done any kind of real exercise. Shameful, I know.

The topper is that I spent 6 1/2 hours at the ER today (on the 1 year of my mom's passing, of all things) because I have had a bit of shortness of breath lately and the occasional very minor chest tightness (not pain, just the feeling like someone is lightly pressing on it).  Apparently, stress and anxiety are the biggest culprit, because my blood pressure was a bit higher than normal, and the EKG showed my heart is fine and the chest exam showed that my lungs are good (that was a major whew given that my mom passed away a year ago of lung disease) and the Covid test was negative, but I think I still need to get back on the exercise regime.  It will be a tough first few weeks, but I need to power through it.  Thinking I will start with some walking and light swimming.

Any other ideas?

So sorry to hear this but also so glad your tests came out fairly well.  Are they putting you on any blood pressure meds?  Sometimes adjusting to those can be tricky and can definitely impact your energy level.  Be careful starting to work out if you are on new meds.  They can make you light-headed.

Talk to your primary doctor, but slow and steady jumping back in is my advice.  Walking is a great place to start.  Do you have anything like a FitBit to help you monitor your heart rate and/or steps?  Also - do not under-estimate the power of good sleep.  If there is any chance you could have apnea (snore?) get that shit checked out pronto.

I'm about 6 weeks into my lifting experience and I'm still having DOMS but it is so much better.  I'm recovering faster and lifting heavier weights.  Feels good.  But the first few weeks about killed me.  Fuck I'm old.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: KevShmev on February 16, 2023, 07:04:29 PM
Thanks for both replies!

I am supposed to follow up with my regular MD in a week, who may recommend some meds for blood pressure.  I do not like the idea of taking any meds, but we'll see.

I have apnea, but it's a mild case.  I never get good sleep anymore. I was prescribed the nose pillows years ago, but could never keep them on, so I gave up even trying.  I am supposed to see a new sleep doc next month, so maybe there are new methods.

Swimming was the idea because it was recommended by my ortho doc just this Tuesday, as I have scoliosis, but he said it is pretty minor, the swimming exercises should help big time with the hip pain I get from it.  It's just a matter of if I can handle them right now.

I missing being younger when I was (mostly) really healthy.  :censored :censored
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2023, 07:57:40 PM
Swimming is great low impact exercise and doesn't wear as much on your joints.  It is tremendous exercise though, just don't go too hard too fast.  Even water walking is a good place to start too and ease into things.  People here that I see daily swear by it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: KevShmev on February 17, 2023, 06:40:06 PM
Swimming is great low impact exercise and doesn't wear as much on your joints.  It is tremendous exercise though, just don't go too hard too fast.  Even water walking is a good place to start too and ease into things.  People here that I see daily swear by it.

Yep, yep. I plan to start this week. The big gym right near my work is still open and has a full wet area (pool, whirlpool, sauna), so I will be joining and starting this week.  Slowly.  :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on March 02, 2023, 09:39:13 AM
Question for the fellow runners (apologies if it was discussed before): do you usually have breakfast before your longer (10+ km) runs?

Last year I kinda half-heartedly trained for a half-marathon. I had no plan to do an official race, was just curious if I can do it. My goal was to do three runs a week with biking on Sunday; shorter runs during the working week, longer run on Saturday. I got to 13km+ and then the government announced a military draft and I stopped running (I was on vacation during that and spent two weeks almost never leaving my flat; then I had a business trip to another country, got sick, and by then it was late October so afterwards I just kept running 5km runs to keep in shape). The point is, I loved waking up each Saturday, brushing my teeth and just going for a run, no breakfast (up to 13 km it was working fine).

This year I'm considering training a little bit more seriously (perhaps even do some official race in another country around August if nothing drastic happens), and while I was browsing through numerous pieces of advice on the web, almost every guide advises to have a breakfast 3-4 hours before the actual race. As the races usually happen at around 10-11 AM, that means getting up at least at 6-7 AM; and not only for the race day, but each Saturday too as switching anything up right before the race isn't adviced.

Every opinion/perspective would be helpful.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2023, 09:44:32 AM
Question for the fellow runners (apologies if it was discussed before): do you usually have breakfast before your longer (10+ km) runs?

I typically do a fairly light breakfast. My 'go to' for the past few half marathons I've ran has been oatmeal when I wake up (maybe 1-1/2 to 2 hrs prior to start) then I'll eat a banana maybe 45 minutes or so before I start. Then, I'll eat some sports beans 15 minutes before the race then every 45 minutes after that while running.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 02, 2023, 10:29:25 AM
If you support with electrolytes properly during the activity, you can get by for 60-90 minutes fasted. Beyond that you're going to have performance issues without the energy (i.e. calorie) intake.

I intermittent fast with an eating window of 1pm-9pm, but I suspend my fasting on days when I have an  endurance workout planned for the morning. I don't want to plan my workouts around my eating schedule, and I found myself just too gassed on long rides if I don't eat. Gary's advice is sound, I think.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2023, 10:38:44 AM
If you support with electrolytes properly during the activity, you can get by for 60-90 minutes fasted. Beyond that you're going to have performance issues without the energy (i.e. calorie) intake.

I intermittent fast with an eating window of 1pm-9pm, but I suspend my fasting on days when I have an  endurance workout planned for the morning. I don't want to plan my workouts around my eating schedule, and I found myself just too gassed on long rides if I don't eat. Gary's advice is sound, I think.

It's just what I've found that works for 'me'. I'm accustomed to it and really just keep the habit as it's not let me down yet. But, I don't have a fast pace either....if that even makes a difference. I rely heavily on the Sports Beans while in progress as I do find they help 'me'.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on March 02, 2023, 12:02:37 PM
1/2-2 hours before the run at least sounds reasonable.

And I suppose Sports Beans can be replaced by any suitable sports gel food? Tested during training before the actual big race of course. I'm not sure I can find the exact same brand here. :biggrin:

It's just what I've found that works for 'me'. I'm accustomed to it and really just keep the habit as it's not let me down yet. But, I don't have a fast pace either....if that even makes a difference. I rely heavily on the Sports Beans while in progress as I do find they help 'me'.

I mean, you'll have to define "fast". I'll probably be aiming for under 2 hours / 5.40 per km.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2023, 12:10:54 PM
1/2-2 hours before the run at least sounds reasonable.

And I suppose Sports Beans can be replaced by any suitable sports gel food? Tested during training before the actual big race of course. I'm not sure I can find the exact same brand here. :biggrin:

It's just what I've found that works for 'me'. I'm accustomed to it and really just keep the habit as it's not let me down yet. But, I don't have a fast pace either....if that even makes a difference. I rely heavily on the Sports Beans while in progress as I do find they help 'me'.

I mean, you'll have to define "fast". I'll probably be aiming for under 2 hours / 5.40 per km.

You don’t want to try any new ‘in race’ energy supplements during the actual race for sure. That’s all tested and tried prior to race day.


And, my trail run pace is relatively slow. Anywhere from a 9:30-12:00 minute mile depending on the race. This Sundays trail half is brutal as far as elevation change so I’m sure I’ll be around a 11:30-12:00 average
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2023, 12:25:04 PM
This Sundays trail half is brutal as far as elevation change so I’m sure I’ll be around a 11:30-12:00 average

The trail half I'm running this Sunday is called the 'Quivering Quads'    Nothing but hills through Quiver River State Park

(https://i.imgur.com/gm0HMhC.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on March 02, 2023, 12:42:00 PM
The trail half I'm running this Sunday is called the 'Quivering Quads'    Nothing but hills through Quiver River State Park

(https://i.imgur.com/gm0HMhC.jpg)

Yeah that's a no for me so far. Maybe in a few years after/if I finish a flat half-marathon and a marathon. Looks brutal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2023, 02:58:31 PM
If you support with electrolytes properly during the activity, you can get by for 60-90 minutes fasted. Beyond that you're going to have performance issues without the energy (i.e. calorie) intake.

I intermittent fast with an eating window of 1pm-9pm, but I suspend my fasting on days when I have an  endurance workout planned for the morning. I don't want to plan my workouts around my eating schedule, and I found myself just too gassed on long rides if I don't eat. Gary's advice is sound, I think.

Pretty much.  I've added electrolytes in the mornings and it's helped a lot, as I don't like eating beforehand.  With work I haven't really gone for many long runs lately though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2023, 03:03:39 PM
1/2-2 hours before the run at least sounds reasonable.

And I suppose Sports Beans can be replaced by any suitable sports gel food? Tested during training before the actual big race of course. I'm not sure I can find the exact same brand here. :biggrin:

It's just what I've found that works for 'me'. I'm accustomed to it and really just keep the habit as it's not let me down yet. But, I don't have a fast pace either....if that even makes a difference. I rely heavily on the Sports Beans while in progress as I do find they help 'me'.

I mean, you'll have to define "fast". I'll probably be aiming for under 2 hours / 5.40 per km.

Is this for the half marathon?  That's a solid time to aim for straight up, depending on elevation too I guess.  I think the first long run I did past 20km was around that pace which I think is solid.

I've really plateaued with my running but life and work just gets in the way.  My goal at the start of the year was a half at under 5:00/km.  I've actually gone backwards.  Too much daily volume and 75 hour work weeks though will do that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2023, 09:50:13 AM
Is this for the half marathon?  That's a solid time to aim for straight up, depending on elevation too I guess.  I think the first long run I did past 20km was around that pace which I think is solid.

It is, I think 5:40 is reasonable if I train well enough. I did my 13k-ish run at 5:40, I think I might be able to keep it up after basically 22 weeks of training.

Electrolytes as in drinks like Gatorade and such, or do you mean something else? I'm really a newbie at this eating/drinking for runs aspect.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 03, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Yes, like Gatorade.  Personally, i don't use Gatorade or Powerade though.  Too many calories and too much sugar. Here in North America we have a brand called Bio-Steel, and their electrolyte mix is almost no calories or sugar and plenty of sodium. The salt is the important part for electrolyte replacement. Unless you somehow don't sweat at all,  in which case it doesn't matter.

Gatorade etc. is good if you're also using it for calorie replacement during exercise vs. gels, but I prefer food vs. Liquid cals when doing endurance workouts.  Also, i can get better carbs from food. The carbs in Gatorade are basically all sugar.  Last point on why i don't prefer Gatorade,  even for cal replacement,  is that i often don't need that much liquid. A bottle of Gatorade is about 250cal vs. a Clif Bar @260. The Clif has more and better carbs, and isn't half a litre of fluids.

Moral of the story: go with what works for you
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2023, 12:24:36 PM
I never drank Gatorade/Powerade or any of that in my life so I guess I'll just have find out what works for me through trial and error :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2023, 12:43:21 PM
Stoli
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2023, 12:48:54 PM
Stoli

:lol

I tried it once and it's utter shit. Maybe you guys have a good export version of it, I dunno.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2023, 01:26:59 PM
Is this for the half marathon?  That's a solid time to aim for straight up, depending on elevation too I guess.  I think the first long run I did past 20km was around that pace which I think is solid.

It is, I think 5:40 is reasonable if I train well enough. I did my 13k-ish run at 5:40, I think I might be able to keep it up after basically 22 weeks of training.

Electrolytes as in drinks like Gatorade and such, or do you mean something else? I'm really a newbie at this eating/drinking for runs aspect.

Nice goal mate.  Get after it.

I use an electrolyte powder too.  Works better for me than gatorade and works out way less expensive.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 06, 2023, 07:17:59 AM
So, I finished the Trail Half in 2hrs 40 minutes.....averaged out to a 12:17 pace. Pretty much what I thought it'd be.
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 This Sundays trail half is brutal as far as elevation change so I’m sure I’ll be around a 11:30-12:00 average
What made it that much more difficult was that it was extremely muddy. The area got a couple inches of rain over last Thurs/Fri and one of the popular uses for the trails at this particular state park is horseback riding. So....those horse tracks filling with water and what not....man, it was a slick go in a lot of places.

But I did accomplish my two goals.....finish the race and don't get hurt  :lol   Was a beautiful morning also, great running weather....and just physically 'felt' good all in all.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 06, 2023, 07:42:20 AM
So, I finished the Trail Half in 2hrs 40 minutes.....averaged out to a 12:17 pace. Pretty much what I thought it'd be.
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 This Sundays trail half is brutal as far as elevation change so I’m sure I’ll be around a 11:30-12:00 average
What made it that much more difficult was that it was extremely muddy. The area got a couple inches of rain over last Thurs/Fri and one of the popular uses for the trails at this particular state park is horseback riding. So....those horse tracks filling with water and what not....man, it was a slick go in a lot of places.

But I did accomplish my two goals.....finish the race and don't get hurt  :lol   Was a beautiful morning also, great running weather....and just physically 'felt' good all in all.

Well done! Trail running is next level compared to street running. Kudos to you, good sir.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 06, 2023, 08:44:02 AM
Well done! Trail running is next level compared to street running. Kudos to you, good sir.

Thank you!!


So, I've ran this race (9) times....it's a challenging trail run but the satisfaction of completing it makes it worth it. I've kind of developed a compulsive habit of just signing up for it and 'forcing' myself to run it each spring to try and stay in some sort of shape. I keep a record of each year in my phone notes. Here is my history on this particular race.

Quivering Quads Trail Half - Cuivre River State Park

2012 - 2hrs 18min  / 10:33 pace - perfect conditions. Dry, sunny...wonderful day
2013 - 2hrs 34min / 11:49 pace - Literal Thunderstorm the entire race. The later runners had a shortened course due to the creek flash flooding.
2014 - 2hrs 43min / There was about 3" of snow and ice on the course. Very difficult run
2015 - 2hrs 52min / 2-3" of snow and ice, VERY cold out and I hadn't trained all that well. Was pretty 'heavy' for my frame at the time.
2016 - Didn't sign up in time. Being a state park there are limited participants (usually 300-400) and it fills up within a day or two. I dilly dollied around and it filled up.
2017 - 2hrs 19min / 10:39 pace - perfect conditions. Dry, sunny...great morning to run.
2018 - 2hrs  32 min / 11:40 pace - mix of melting snow/ice....very muddy
2019 - 1hr 50min / 11:04 pace - very muddy, course was shortened to 10 miles due to creek flooding 15ft over banks
2020 - 2hrs 45min / 12:38 pace - muddy and icy...slick run
2021 - 2hrs 40min / 12:17 pace - raining and muddy
2022 - Missed the race. Hockey team I coach had a tournament championship game that day. We Won!!!
2023 - 2hrs 40 min / 12:17 pace - Very muddy course
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2023, 02:50:06 PM
So, I finished the Trail Half in 2hrs 40 minutes.....averaged out to a 12:17 pace. Pretty much what I thought it'd be.
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 This Sundays trail half is brutal as far as elevation change so I’m sure I’ll be around a 11:30-12:00 average
What made it that much more difficult was that it was extremely muddy. The area got a couple inches of rain over last Thurs/Fri and one of the popular uses for the trails at this particular state park is horseback riding. So....those horse tracks filling with water and what not....man, it was a slick go in a lot of places.

But I did accomplish my two goals.....finish the race and don't get hurt  :lol   Was a beautiful morning also, great running weather....and just physically 'felt' good all in all.

Well done! Trail running is next level compared to street running. Kudos to you, good sir.

Agree.  I struggle up a slight incline on the streets let alone some of the trail stuff Gary would be doing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on March 08, 2023, 04:46:44 PM
Do any of you use Creatine?  I just started a week ago after my trainer recommended it.  I also looked into some science that suggests people who use it can have the added benefit of reduced depression.

I do feel a bit stronger during my workouts but honestly that can just be newbie gains and weight loss more than the Creatine.  I'm not feeling much difference in mood.

My only concern is what happens when/if I stop taking it?  Will there be some sort of a withdrawal or loss of strength associated with that?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2023, 05:31:52 PM
Do any of you use Creatine?  I just started a week ago after my trainer recommended it.  I also looked into some science that suggests people who use it can have the added benefit of reduced depression.

I do feel a bit stronger during my workouts but honestly that can just be newbie gains and weight loss more than the Creatine.  I'm not feeling much difference in mood.

My only concern is what happens when/if I stop taking it?  Will there be some sort of a withdrawal or loss of strength associated with that?

Out of curiosity, what were his reasons on making you take it?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on March 08, 2023, 07:30:18 PM
Do any of you use Creatine?  I just started a week ago after my trainer recommended it.  I also looked into some science that suggests people who use it can have the added benefit of reduced depression.

I do feel a bit stronger during my workouts but honestly that can just be newbie gains and weight loss more than the Creatine.  I'm not feeling much difference in mood.

My only concern is what happens when/if I stop taking it?  Will there be some sort of a withdrawal or loss of strength associated with that?

Out of curiosity, what were his reasons on making you take it?

Creatine improves strength, lean muscle mass, and shortens recovery time post exercise.  Our bodies make creatine naturally but generally not enough to benefit most people.  In that sense, it is like Vitamin D - most people have suboptimal levels and should take a supplement.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2023, 04:11:54 AM
Yeah, I know what it is, I was just curious why it was recommended to you.  If there was a specific reason.   I took it once for a while and personally didn't notice a thing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on March 09, 2023, 05:43:47 AM
In my experience, the effectiveness of creatine (or any other supplement like whey protein powder) is really only noticed when paired with heavy lifting.

Now, I have no idea what your health goals are or who the trainer in question is, but I do know a thing or three about this space, and I cannot fathom recommending someone take creatine unless they are looking to add some serious muscle mass via a 'heavy' (i.e., deadlifts, compound lifts, etc.), disciplined lifting routine.

Really, for the vast majority of people, simply adding a bit more lean protein (chicken, chicken, chicken) to your diet will satisfy all of your nutritional needs when it comes to your fitness goals.

Supplements are hella expensive, and sadly, I feel like the industry surrounding them has created this allure that leads to overuse and over-recommendation.

Just my admittedly uninformed two cents ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 09, 2023, 06:30:32 AM
I noticed absolutely zero benefits when I took creatine.  Like Will said, increase protein.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on March 09, 2023, 06:37:47 AM
I should add, in an effort to answer Harmony's original question: no, if you stop taking it, in my experience, there is no 'withdrawal,' at least, not in the traditional sense.

If, after months of taking creatine, you are eating enough lean protein (say, 1 gram per lb of bodyweight), and you are hitting the weights hard (and staying away from processed sugars), I suspect you will only continue to see gains.

That all said, I would humbly suggest you not do any of those things. NO ONE should just jump into heavy weights (not that you are, but just in general). Again, if you are currently working your way through a balanced exercise regiment and maintaining a strict diet (diet is 95% of any successful exercise gains), then supplements are really just not necessary.

Trust me, I've spent more than I care to admit over the years on jugs and jars of all sorts of things, and at the end of the day, nothing has worked better than simple clean eating and lots of sweat.

For the record, I'm 42 and still workout an hour or so a day, six days a week (DON'T NEGLECT REST!)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 09, 2023, 06:51:18 AM
Agree about the creatine being unnecessary unless you're on a serious muscle gain program. That being said,  i don't know anything about whether it can help reduce depression. I used it a lot when i was younger (18-20 y/o) and saw massive gains, but i couldn't say how much was the creatine helping or simply tons of training.

As for protein supplements, they're almost necessary depending on your fitness goals. If you're trying to gain muscle vs. maintain what you have,  it's very difficult to get enough protein from natural food sources (for a 195lb man, at least). For me to hit my protein target I'd need to eat chicken twice per day,  half a dozen eggs for breakfast, and drink a bunch of milk during day. It's far easier to add a couple scoops of whey into my day. When you run the math on the cost chicken per gram of protein  vs. the whey i use, it's almost exactly even.  Whey is just far more convenient.

Then again, i lift 4x per week with the specific goal of gaining muscle (which is admittedly hampered by my love of endurance cardio). My training likely falls into the category of "paired with heavy lifting".
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on March 09, 2023, 08:21:52 AM
Thanks guys.  I am lifting 3 days/week.  I wouldn't say "heavy lifting" but I'm working my way upwards.

I am very cognizant of the "supplement selling" part of the health/fitness industry and the only other supplement I take outside of protein shakes is Vitamin D.  My trainer is not selling me anything (other than my work out plan and his time).  It actually has been recommended to me by numerous people - some of whom are registered dieticians.  What sold me on trying it is the research - albeit limited so far - that creatine supplements can improve mood and cognitive function.  The fact that it is safe for my body with only very minor (initial water retention) side effects is a huge plus for me.

I guess we'll see how my job as guinea pig goes!  Am am - for the most part - hitting my protein goals. 

I am happy to hear that there were no noticeable withdrawal effects.

And yes, rest is very important.  I sleep pretty well most days and find taking at least 2 rest days a week to be my preference.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Herrick on March 09, 2023, 12:17:37 PM
Herrick has acquired The Elden Choad. After a couple restarts, I decided to play as a Confessor because I think it would be cool to use magic and melee. Any tips would be appreciated. The only Souls game I got far into and beat is Dark Souls but I never used magic.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2023, 02:29:37 PM
Now, I have no idea what your health goals are or who the trainer in question is, but I do know a thing or three about this space, and I cannot fathom recommending someone take creatine unless they are looking to add some serious muscle mass via a 'heavy' (i.e., deadlifts, compound lifts, etc.), disciplined lifting routine.

Really, for the vast majority of people, simply adding a bit more lean protein (chicken, chicken, chicken) to your diet will satisfy all of your nutritional needs when it comes to your fitness goals.

Supplements are hella expensive, and sadly, I feel like the industry surrounding them has created this allure that leads to overuse and over-recommendation.

Just my admittedly uninformed two cents ;D

Yeah, this is kind of what I wanted to say.  This is bang on.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2023, 02:33:51 PM
Herrick has acquired The Elden Choad. After a couple restarts, I decided to play as a Confessor because I think it would be cool to use magic and melee. Any tips would be appreciated. The only Souls game I got far into and beat is Dark Souls but I never used magic.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/KStwDj5LEr36CCtZ2Z/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b6pilrnb9umg9m49mp5n6o7pzql9rl6wz3gj52tpd&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2023, 02:36:48 PM
Agree about the creatine being unnecessary unless you're on a serious muscle gain program. That being said,  i don't know anything about whether it can help reduce depression. I used it a lot when i was younger (18-20 y/o) and saw massive gains, but i couldn't say how much was the creatine helping or simply tons of training.

As for protein supplements, they're almost necessary depending on your fitness goals. If you're trying to gain muscle vs. maintain what you have,  it's very difficult to get enough protein from natural food sources (for a 195lb man, at least). For me to hit my protein target I'd need to eat chicken twice per day,  half a dozen eggs for breakfast, and drink a bunch of milk during day. It's far easier to add a couple scoops of whey into my day. When you run the math on the cost chicken per gram of protein  vs. the whey i use, it's almost exactly even.  Whey is just far more convenient.

Then again, i lift 4x per week with the specific goal of gaining muscle (which is admittedly hampered by my love of endurance cardio). My training likely falls into the category of "paired with heavy lifting".

I was a sucker for supplements early on.  I'd put more work into buying them and trying new things than I did eating right and working out.  Was stupid, as Will said, once I started just eating right and focusing on my training, results came.  I've never stopped using whey protein though.  I agree, sometimes trying to eat so much protein day in day out just backs me up eventually and I end up eating less.  Can easily get 40g of protein from an easy delicious shake.  Add some milk and peanut butter and boom, you've got something sweet you can enjoy without breaking the calorie bank.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on March 09, 2023, 03:01:50 PM
Agree about the creatine being unnecessary unless you're on a serious muscle gain program. That being said,  i don't know anything about whether it can help reduce depression. I used it a lot when i was younger (18-20 y/o) and saw massive gains, but i couldn't say how much was the creatine helping or simply tons of training.

As for protein supplements, they're almost necessary depending on your fitness goals. If you're trying to gain muscle vs. maintain what you have,  it's very difficult to get enough protein from natural food sources (for a 195lb man, at least). For me to hit my protein target I'd need to eat chicken twice per day,  half a dozen eggs for breakfast, and drink a bunch of milk during day. It's far easier to add a couple scoops of whey into my day. When you run the math on the cost chicken per gram of protein  vs. the whey i use, it's almost exactly even.  Whey is just far more convenient.

Then again, i lift 4x per week with the specific goal of gaining muscle (which is admittedly hampered by my love of endurance cardio). My training likely falls into the category of "paired with heavy lifting".

I was a sucker for supplements early on.  I'd put more work into buying them and trying new things than I did eating right and working out.  Was stupid, as Will said, once I started just eating right and focusing on my training, results came.  I've never stopped using whey protein though.  I agree, sometimes trying to eat so much protein day in day out just backs me up eventually and I end up eating less.  Can easily get 40g of protein from an easy delicious shake.  Add some milk and peanut butter and boom, you've got something sweet you can enjoy without breaking the calorie bank.
Pretty much. My current philosophy is hit my protein target and keep exercising regularly. Everything else basically takes care of itself. I've also found that by hitting my target, which does take some degree of effort, I'm eating a little more often and never hungry. It's been quite pleasant. Mind you, this is all going to fall apart once outdoor cycling season starts (my work commute doesn't really count). I just love my bike too much, and will undoubtedly shift to 5x per week rides lol.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2023, 03:16:30 PM
Agree about the creatine being unnecessary unless you're on a serious muscle gain program. That being said,  i don't know anything about whether it can help reduce depression. I used it a lot when i was younger (18-20 y/o) and saw massive gains, but i couldn't say how much was the creatine helping or simply tons of training.

As for protein supplements, they're almost necessary depending on your fitness goals. If you're trying to gain muscle vs. maintain what you have,  it's very difficult to get enough protein from natural food sources (for a 195lb man, at least). For me to hit my protein target I'd need to eat chicken twice per day,  half a dozen eggs for breakfast, and drink a bunch of milk during day. It's far easier to add a couple scoops of whey into my day. When you run the math on the cost chicken per gram of protein  vs. the whey i use, it's almost exactly even.  Whey is just far more convenient.

Then again, i lift 4x per week with the specific goal of gaining muscle (which is admittedly hampered by my love of endurance cardio). My training likely falls into the category of "paired with heavy lifting".

I was a sucker for supplements early on.  I'd put more work into buying them and trying new things than I did eating right and working out.  Was stupid, as Will said, once I started just eating right and focusing on my training, results came.  I've never stopped using whey protein though.  I agree, sometimes trying to eat so much protein day in day out just backs me up eventually and I end up eating less.  Can easily get 40g of protein from an easy delicious shake.  Add some milk and peanut butter and boom, you've got something sweet you can enjoy without breaking the calorie bank.
Pretty much. My current philosophy is hit my protein target and keep exercising regularly. Everything else basically takes care of itself. I've also found that by hitting my target, which does take some degree of effort, I'm eating a little more often and never hungry. It's been quite pleasant. Mind you, this is all going to fall apart once outdoor cycling season starts (my work commute doesn't really count). I just love my bike too much, and will undoubtedly shift to 5x per week rides lol.

I think that's as simple as you can make it to be honest.  I mentioned before, I got caught up in all the numbers and the supplements and all the bullshit I lost focus on just eating right with highish protein and training my ass off.  People really do over complicate it and especially for newbies, it's daunting and it's made way more complicated then it needs to be.

I too have changed my diet up and need to eat a little more and I times I still lose weight.  Some days too it's a struggle to eat as much as I need of the right foods but that's where the whey comes in.

Looking forward to what's coming up for you mate.  Hoping I can fully recover this leg and start getting some longer runs in myself again soon now summer is almost over.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 09, 2023, 04:59:49 PM
Wolfarama is right like usual besides listening to cookie monster bullshit.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Herrick on March 09, 2023, 05:23:13 PM
Herrick has acquired The Elden Choad. After a couple restarts, I decided to play as a Confessor because I think it would be cool to use magic and melee. Any tips would be appreciated. The only Souls game I got far into and beat is Dark Souls but I never used magic.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/KStwDj5LEr36CCtZ2Z/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b6pilrnb9umg9m49mp5n6o7pzql9rl6wz3gj52tpd&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)

Yeah wrong thread. Sorry about that  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2023, 05:27:38 PM
Herrick has acquired The Elden Choad. After a couple restarts, I decided to play as a Confessor because I think it would be cool to use magic and melee. Any tips would be appreciated. The only Souls game I got far into and beat is Dark Souls but I never used magic.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/KStwDj5LEr36CCtZ2Z/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b6pilrnb9umg9m49mp5n6o7pzql9rl6wz3gj52tpd&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)

Yeah wrong thread. Sorry about that  :biggrin:

I tried to read it a few times and come up with something to help you but I got nothing!

Wolfarama is right like usual besides listening to cookie monster bullshit.

 :lol :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 10, 2023, 03:58:53 AM
I didn't have time to read everything but regarding creatine, it takes a few weeks of consistent dosing for it to start working. It is not like, a replacement for caffeine to give us some kick before workout ;D said that, I was taking it consistently when I was doing more strength work and I didn't feel anything :lol but that may be due to my lack of sleep/rest :biggrin:

Right now, I'm preparing for a half-marathon in my city. A year ago it was my first ever half-marathon and I didn't know what I was doing and didn't prepare too well. But still it was great to run through the city :smiley: this time around I've been consistent, following a plan so I hope I will be able to reach my goal of 1:45. But the proper hard training for me start in a week and a half so I will be able to better assess if that goal is possible, everything so far was training for a real training :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2023, 04:05:18 AM
Looking forward to following mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 10, 2023, 04:07:31 AM
 :tup

Here's a generic plan I'm following https://www.runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/halfmarathon-guide-experienced
It's pretty long but a great read
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 02, 2023, 08:24:50 AM
So I signed up for a half-marathon a month ago, the actual race is in August. Like Tomi, I did "training for a real training" for two weeks and now I'm two weeks into increasing distances and doing intervals and all that. Physically so far I think I'm good.

Mentally though I'm not quite as good. I already get up at 4:50 in the morning so I can't do the morning runs during my working days, so I have to run after work, and sometimes it's just too fucking much. I come home after work, I'm already angry as fuck due to the actual work, then public transport where some people are total morons, then it's time to run, it's fucking snowing too (it's late March/early April why the hell it's snowing ffs) but the distance isn't going to run itself, so of course I do change my clothes and go and run in this 0°C fucking spring weather.

I want to say that I like running and I'm not complaining, but I'm definitely complaining :lol Please at least make good weather starting tomorrow, thanks. It's only April and I'm already tired as hell. Damn.

:tup

Here's a generic plan I'm following https://www.runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/halfmarathon-guide-experienced
It's pretty long but a great read

A lot of good points in the article - hopefully this time you'll kill it!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 02, 2023, 08:52:34 AM
Mentally though I'm not quite as good. I already get up at 4:50 in the morning so I can't do the morning runs during my working days, so I have to run after work, and sometimes it's just too fucking much. I come home after work, I'm already angry as fuck due to the actual work, then public transport where some people are total morons, then it's time to run, it's fucking snowing too (it's late March/early April why the hell it's snowing ffs) but the distance isn't going to run itself, so of course I do change my clothes and go and run in this 0°C fucking spring weather.

Rereading this and man I'm turning into Kade.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on April 02, 2023, 01:04:42 PM
Well, it looks like my mind wasn’t playing tricks on me—that perceived wall my training hit a whole back? Turns out I have an arrhythmia.

It’s a pretty sobering conversation when a doctor tells you that running is out of the question (until further notice), hands you a bottle of beta blockers, and gives you a referral for an ablation—all in the span of ten minutes.

Denial quickly have way to shock, and now, a few days later, I’m crushed and confused.

I’m 42 and in great shape…apparently, years of heavy duty training is not without consequences.

Anyone here dealing with SVT? I’d love to hear comments or stories from anyone who’s managing a similar situation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2023, 09:27:11 PM
:tup

Here's a generic plan I'm following https://www.runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/halfmarathon-guide-experienced
It's pretty long but a great read

Wow, missed this totally, will dig in.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2023, 09:29:03 PM
Mentally though I'm not quite as good. I already get up at 4:50 in the morning so I can't do the morning runs during my working days, so I have to run after work, and sometimes it's just too fucking much. I come home after work, I'm already angry as fuck due to the actual work, then public transport where some people are total morons, then it's time to run, it's fucking snowing too (it's late March/early April why the hell it's snowing ffs) but the distance isn't going to run itself, so of course I do change my clothes and go and run in this 0°C fucking spring weather.

Rereading this and man I'm turning into Kade.

Damn, not sure what to think here.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2023, 09:31:47 PM
Well, it looks like my mind wasn’t playing tricks on me—that perceived wall my training hit a whole back? Turns out I have an arrhythmia.

It’s a pretty sobering conversation when a doctor tells you that running is out of the question (until further notice), hands you a bottle of beta blockers, and gives you a referral for an ablation—all in the span of ten minutes.

Denial quickly have way to shock, and now, a few days later, I’m crushed and confused.

I’m 42 and in great shape…apparently, years of heavy duty training is not without consequences.

Anyone here dealing with SVT? I’d love to hear comments or stories from anyone who’s managing a similar situation.

Shit mate, that's awful news.  Are you saying excessive training caused this?  Is there things you can still do within your training?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: WilliamMunny on April 03, 2023, 05:58:15 AM
Well, it looks like my mind wasn’t playing tricks on me—that perceived wall my training hit a whole back? Turns out I have an arrhythmia.

It’s a pretty sobering conversation when a doctor tells you that running is out of the question (until further notice), hands you a bottle of beta blockers, and gives you a referral for an ablation—all in the span of ten minutes.

Denial quickly have way to shock, and now, a few days later, I’m crushed and confused.

I’m 42 and in great shape…apparently, years of heavy duty training is not without consequences.

Anyone here dealing with SVT? I’d love to hear comments or stories from anyone who’s managing a similar situation.

Shit mate, that's awful news.  Are you saying excessive training caused this?  Is there things you can still do within your training?

I can't say for certain, but I've done a bit of reading and based on the preliminary tests (echo-cardiogram diagnosed 'Athlete's heart'), it appears to me that my decades of training has likely played a role.

As for the 'what can I still do?' question, I am hoping the specialist I am seeing can give me the details this Thursday.

Thank you for the reply, btw.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 03, 2023, 07:47:37 AM
Ran another Half Marathon yesterday, this one was St. Louis's big one....the GO STL....and, it was a really beautiful day out. Perfect running weather. The course is 'relatively' flat, there are inclines and what not but it's nothing like trail running. I tried my best to keep pace with the 2hr 5min pace group and for much of the race I was with the 2hr pace group. But, around mile 9 I started experiencing some fatigue and just couldn't hold the pace. I'd only ran twice since running that trail half marathon on March 5th so hadn't really prepped for this one. I'm not disappointed with my time or anything by any means though.



(https://i.imgur.com/2ftM77P.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/VQDb5RL.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 03, 2023, 12:03:57 PM
Ran another Half Marathon yesterday, this one was St. Louis's big one....the GO STL....and, it was a really beautiful day out. Perfect running weather. The course is 'relatively' flat, there are inclines and what not but it's nothing like trail running. I tried my best to keep pace with the 2hr 5min pace group and for much of the race I was with the 2hr pace group. But, around mile 9 I started experiencing some fatigue and just couldn't hold the pace. I'd only ran twice since running that trail half marathon on March 5th so hadn't really prepped for this one. I'm not disappointed with my time or anything by any means though.



(https://i.imgur.com/2ftM77P.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/VQDb5RL.jpg)

Still awesome though!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 03, 2023, 12:13:15 PM
Mentally though I'm not quite as good. I already get up at 4:50 in the morning so I can't do the morning runs during my working days, so I have to run after work, and sometimes it's just too fucking much. I come home after work, I'm already angry as fuck due to the actual work, then public transport where some people are total morons, then it's time to run, it's fucking snowing too (it's late March/early April why the hell it's snowing ffs) but the distance isn't going to run itself, so of course I do change my clothes and go and run in this 0°C fucking spring weather.

Rereading this and man I'm turning into Kade.

Damn, not sure what to think here.  :lol

Dunno man, I was just pissed off after another run in the rain and I thought the tone of the post was very similar to some of your posts about work. :lol Today's a rest day so I'm good. Hopefully it doesn't snow/rain again tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 03, 2023, 08:02:54 PM
Ran another Half Marathon yesterday, this one was St. Louis's big one....the GO STL....and, it was a really beautiful day out. Perfect running weather. The course is 'relatively' flat, there are inclines and what not but it's nothing like trail running. I tried my best to keep pace with the 2hr 5min pace group and for much of the race I was with the 2hr pace group. But, around mile 9 I started experiencing some fatigue and just couldn't hold the pace. I'd only ran twice since running that trail half marathon on March 5th so hadn't really prepped for this one. I'm not disappointed with my time or anything by any means though.

Congrats! It's tough running a half marathon with only a couple of training runs in the month leading up to the race, even if you were in great shape before. I did something similar a few years ago and after the race I could barely walk for a week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2023, 10:12:37 PM
Well, it looks like my mind wasn’t playing tricks on me—that perceived wall my training hit a whole back? Turns out I have an arrhythmia.

It’s a pretty sobering conversation when a doctor tells you that running is out of the question (until further notice), hands you a bottle of beta blockers, and gives you a referral for an ablation—all in the span of ten minutes.

Denial quickly have way to shock, and now, a few days later, I’m crushed and confused.

I’m 42 and in great shape…apparently, years of heavy duty training is not without consequences.

Anyone here dealing with SVT? I’d love to hear comments or stories from anyone who’s managing a similar situation.

Shit mate, that's awful news.  Are you saying excessive training caused this?  Is there things you can still do within your training?

I can't say for certain, but I've done a bit of reading and based on the preliminary tests (echo-cardiogram diagnosed 'Athlete's heart'), it appears to me that my decades of training has likely played a role.

As for the 'what can I still do?' question, I am hoping the specialist I am seeing can give me the details this Thursday.

Thank you for the reply, btw.

Fingers crossed for you man.  Hopefully a positive appointment with the specialist. 

That's scary activity may have played a role, never heard of that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2023, 10:13:55 PM
Nice run Gary!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2023, 10:15:17 PM
Mentally though I'm not quite as good. I already get up at 4:50 in the morning so I can't do the morning runs during my working days, so I have to run after work, and sometimes it's just too fucking much. I come home after work, I'm already angry as fuck due to the actual work, then public transport where some people are total morons, then it's time to run, it's fucking snowing too (it's late March/early April why the hell it's snowing ffs) but the distance isn't going to run itself, so of course I do change my clothes and go and run in this 0°C fucking spring weather.

Rereading this and man I'm turning into Kade.

Damn, not sure what to think here.  :lol

Dunno man, I was just pissed off after another run in the rain and I thought the tone of the post was very similar to some of your posts about work. :lol Today's a rest day so I'm good. Hopefully it doesn't snow/rain again tomorrow!

No you're fine Ruslan.  It was more a reflection for myself.   :lol

But yes, the tone was spot on about my work rants so I certainly can't fault you there!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 05, 2023, 01:07:14 PM
I ran my first marathon about a month ago (the Coast Guard Marathon). I'm still very proud to have done it. My finishing time was around 3:46 (8:38/mile, or 5:22/km pace).

I've started training for a second race later this year, if I can stay injury free.

Exhausted after the race:

(https://i.ibb.co/PwscVvZ/IMG-20230304-WA0002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gzbScLM)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 05, 2023, 01:40:22 PM
I'm still very proud to have done it. My finishing time was around 3:46 (8:38/mile, or 5:22/km pace).

Great work!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: faizoff on April 05, 2023, 01:46:32 PM
Damn look at you guys with your half and full marathons. I need to get back to running. My mile minutes are awful compared to you guys.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2023, 02:33:04 PM
I ran my first marathon about a month ago (the Coast Guard Marathon). I'm still very proud to have done it. My finishing time was around 3:46 (8:38/mile, or 5:22/km pace).

I've started training for a second race later this year, if I can stay injury free.

Exhausted after the race:

(https://i.ibb.co/PwscVvZ/IMG-20230304-WA0002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gzbScLM)

Wow!  That's incredible and a great time mate.  That's inspirational stuff.  Once I can finally get to 42km my goal is around 6:00 per km.  5:22 is bloody unreal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 06, 2023, 11:35:31 AM
Thanks, y'all!

I have to say, my toenails have never looked more hideous  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 06, 2023, 01:22:54 PM
I've completed 12 marathons and 2 Ironman triathlons, and not once have i lost a toenail. Not sure if it's luck or the way i tie my laces,  but my training partners have not been so lucky
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 06, 2023, 02:02:17 PM
I've completed 12 marathons and 2 Ironman triathlons, and not once have i lost a toenail. Not sure if it's luck or the way i tie my laces,  but my training partners have not been so lucky

I haven't quite lost the nails—not yet, anyway—I just had several large blood blisters (like as wide as the toe itself) and now the nails have completely blackened. Which isn't a problem I had on even my longest training runs, so I'm not sure what to pin it on except the generally higher intensity. What kind of socks do you wear?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 06, 2023, 02:28:31 PM
I've completed 12 marathons and 2 Ironman triathlons, and not once have i lost a toenail. Not sure if it's luck or the way i tie my laces,  but my training partners have not been so lucky

I haven't quite lost the nails—not yet, anyway—I just had several large blood blisters (like as wide as the toe itself) and now the nails have completely blackened. Which isn't a problem I had on even my longest training runs, so I'm not sure what to pin it on except the generally higher intensity. What kind of socks do you wear?

I've retired from running due to cartilage issues in my hips, so I only wear cycling socks now lol.

I used to wear your standard moisture wicking running socks. There's a large Canadian chain up here aptly named the "Running Room". I would buy all my technical gear there, and they sell these 'coolmax' socks. I didn't get so much as a tiny blister during my running days. I also had the good sense to think critically about how my gear is fitting before any race or long run. Something that isn't too bothersome at the start of a marathon could very well be blinding pain 4 hrs later. Or 5 hours later, as was the case in a couple of my marathons.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 02:52:58 PM
I've completed 12 marathons and 2 Ironman triathlons, and not once have i lost a toenail. Not sure if it's luck or the way i tie my laces,  but my training partners have not been so lucky

Jeez, even my pissy running I've had both second toe toenails fall off.  Must be doing something wrong. My left one which is new is currently entirely black once again.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 06, 2023, 03:25:46 PM
I've completed 12 marathons and 2 Ironman triathlons, and not once have i lost a toenail. Not sure if it's luck or the way i tie my laces,  but my training partners have not been so lucky

Jeez, even my pissy running I've had both second toe toenails fall off.  Must be doing something wrong. My left one which is new is currently entirely black once again.  :lol

You ran 30km a week ago. I wouldn't call that 'pissy running' lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 08:49:33 PM
I've completed 12 marathons and 2 Ironman triathlons, and not once have i lost a toenail. Not sure if it's luck or the way i tie my laces,  but my training partners have not been so lucky

Jeez, even my pissy running I've had both second toe toenails fall off.  Must be doing something wrong. My left one which is new is currently entirely black once again.  :lol

You ran 30km a week ago. I wouldn't call that 'pissy running' lol

You know what I mean, I haven't done what some of you guys have done.  I mean;

Number of marathons completed by Rich - 12
Number of marathons completed by Kade - 0

 :lol

I'm getting there though.  PB today on a 15km.  4:58 average per km.  That was a little goal I've had for a while to go under the 5.00.  The half at 5.00 per km seems possible.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on April 12, 2023, 04:03:48 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.  I've got a few exercise band workouts to do while I'm gone and I'll be getting in tons of walking.  But I am taking a 10 day break from logging my food intake.  I know the scale will go up after I get back.  I also know it will go back down again pretty fast after I get back on the horse.

So I saw this little fitness questionnaire and thought I'd see if you all wanted to try it out.  Are the following statements true or myth?

1.  If you want to be fit, you have to exercise really, really hard every single day.
2.  Carbs and sugar make you fat
3.  If you are not sore after a workout, you didn't work hard enough.
4.  If you want a six pack, you have to do more ab exercises
5.  You need a gym membership to get fit
6.  If you want to lose under arm fat then you have to do tricep exercises
7.  Your body needs to be cleansed or detoxified
8.  Strength training will make you bulky
9.  Sweating more means you burn more calories
10. You have to eat protein 30 minutes after a workout
11. You have to cut out fast food if you want to lose weight
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: KevShmev on April 12, 2023, 05:50:35 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.  I've got a few exercise band workouts to do while I'm gone and I'll be getting in tons of walking.  But I am taking a 10 day break from logging my food intake.  I know the scale will go up after I get back.  I also know it will go back down again pretty fast after I get back on the horse.

So I saw this little fitness questionnaire and thought I'd see if you all wanted to try it out.  Are the following statements true or myth?

1.  If you want to be fit, you have to exercise really, really hard every single day.
2.  Carbs and sugar make you fat
3.  If you are not sore after a workout, you didn't work hard enough.
4.  If you want a six pack, you have to do more ab exercises
5.  You need a gym membership to get fit
6.  If you want to lose under arm fat then you have to do tricep exercises
7.  Your body needs to be cleansed or detoxified
8.  Strength training will make you bulky
9.  Sweating more means you burn more calories
10. You have to eat protein 30 minutes after a workout
11. You have to cut out fast food if you want to lose weight

Nice work!  :tup :tup

I suspect most or all of your statements are pretty true, although when it comes to losing weight, diet is like 90% of it, at least for me. Even when I was younger, I could work out for two hours a day and wouldn't drop a pound until I ate better.  Of course, everyone is different, so (the general) you do what is best for you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 12, 2023, 06:15:36 PM
It's a trick question. They're all technically false as written. You don't need to cut out fast food, but it would help.  You don't need to exercise hard, but it helps (although not everyday). Carbs and sugar won't make you fat, but only if eaten in moderation.  And so on.....

Despite what the fitness industry wants you to believe with their marketing,  there's no mystery or magic bullet to weight loss.  It mostly comes down to a caloric deficit over time
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2023, 07:52:01 PM
1.  If you want to be fit, you have to exercise really, really hard every single day. - No, not every single day, but you do need to train hard consistently.

2.  Carbs and sugar make you fat - Absolutely false.

3.  If you are not sore after a workout, you didn't work hard enough. - False.

4.  If you want a six pack, you have to do more ab exercises - Couldn't be further from the truth.

5.  You need a gym membership to get fit - This makes no sense, completely false.

6.  If you want to lose under arm fat then you have to do tricep exercises - Lifting weights is indeed necessary, but diet and genetics, plus age play a big role.  Can get as much benefit out of compound movements like bench, shoulder press and pulldowns but adding isolation exercises certainly can't hurt.

7.  Your body needs to be cleansed or detoxified - Can't really comment.  Depends on you daily diet.  I like doing IF which in a way is a little bit of that sort of thing.

8.  Strength training will make you bulky - Trust me, this is false.

9.  Sweating more means you burn more calories - False.

10. You have to eat protein 30 minutes after a workout - You don't have to, no IMO.  But protein needs to be consumed in a higher than normal fashion daily.

11. You have to cut out fast food if you want to lose weight - Definitely not.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2023, 07:53:25 PM
there's no mystery or magic bullet to weight loss.  It mostly comes down to a caloric deficit over time

Yep.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 13, 2023, 07:39:26 AM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.

Congrats! Not only on the weight loss but also on what seems a much healthier approach. The bold seems to be true for most things, and most people.

This is what most irks me about certain really popular fad diets—people using them to lose weight quickly without a mind toward total health. I often look at those diets and think, if losing weight quickly is the goal and you're willing to eat a very restrictive and imbalanced diet to achieve that goal, why not take up smoking and let the nicotine suppress your appetite? Why not take up meth? Obviously I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think there's something to it: there aren't many better illustrations of our pervasive unhealthfulness than the fact that so many equate rapid weight loss with health. It's a sick approach to sickness.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 13, 2023, 07:51:41 AM
Rapid weight loss never works in the long run, either. I'm too lazy to find the research paper, but there was a recent study of the Biggest Loser contestants (reality show, if you're unaware). They found that every single contestant, save one, regained all the weight they lost on the show. Most even gained more weight than they lost. Slow and steady wins this race because it allows you to adjust your lifestyle and habits for long-term success.

It's also unfortunate that this weight loss mentality has given the term 'diet' a bad vibe. People at work will comment on what I eat (which is generally very healthy), and always ask if I'm on a diet. The answer is always the same: no, I'm not on a diet. I have a diet which happens to consist of mostly fruits, vegetables, and lean proteins. It took me years to refine my diet to where it is now by making small changes here and there, and I don't restrict any foods. To quote Stadler from this thread a couple years ago: "If I want to eat a piece of chocolate cake. I eat a fucking piece of chocolate cake"
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Now wth Nutrition!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2023, 02:32:34 PM
Fast results are a great motivator.  But often, they are not sustainable results.  Inducing your body into ketosis does produce noticeable, quick results.  But many doctors feel it isn't a sustainable diet.  And in my observation, most people end up not finding it to be sutainable just as a practical matter.

I want to agree with this right here for the most part. 

I tried all the different kind of diets with success over my time, and I got some success, but there's no way I could maintain a close to zero carb diet day in day out.  I've learnt that keeping things simple, picking the right foods most of the time and training your ass off will get better results.  Now, if I want ice cream or a chocolate or a cake, I fucking have it becuase I have the training to back it up and a consistintly good diet.

For long term success, I was obsessed with trying to find and research the best types of diets and foods to help, even meal timing and food combinations.  All that bullshit was making me take all my focus off my training.  I was worried about foods and specific diets I was training like a pussy.  I shifted my focus to training as opposed to diet, and it's paid off immensly.  As I said my diet is still great 80-90% of the time, but being in that restrictive phase a few years ago, I was borderline eating disorder and my training sucked, simple as that.  Don't get so hung up in a diet that you may not be able to eat forever.  If you have to think and focus so hard trying not to eat certain foods, it ain't gonna work in the long run.  Learn how to balance and learn how to train.

Did you mean me Rich?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 13, 2023, 02:44:16 PM
Haha, apparently i did mean you. Not just full of Aussie nonsense,  after all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2023, 02:57:13 PM
 :lol  Im taking that as a compliment!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2023, 02:58:13 PM
Speaking of being able to eat cake, time to run!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2023, 04:30:28 AM
Nice time in your half marathon Tomi!! Nice pace pickup in the back end too.  185 HR!!  :eek Was the slower couple of km's in the middle intentional?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 15, 2023, 05:28:52 AM
Nice time in your half marathon Tomi!! Nice pace pickup in the back end too.  185 HR!!  :eek Was the slower couple of km's in the middle intentional?

Care to post it since I'm not on Strava or wherever you can see it?

185 heart rate? That's insane.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Podaar on April 15, 2023, 05:32:47 AM
185 heart rate? That's insane.

4 in the morning, 8 ball of coke, chain smoking while bullshitting with friends. I've been there. *shrug*
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2023, 05:33:03 AM
Nice time in your half marathon Tomi!! Nice pace pickup in the back end too.  185 HR!!  :eek Was the slower couple of km's in the middle intentional?

Care to post it since I'm not on Strava or wherever you can see it?

185 heart rate? That's insane.

I might let him share mate.  I wouldn't feel right giving details away.  I'm sure he will be on soon to share.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 15, 2023, 07:51:04 AM
Yes, well done Tom! Out of curiosity,  how often do you race? It seems like quite frequently.

I can't even imagine having an avg HR of 175 for over an hour.  I'll average 160-165 for an hour when xc skiing, but as soon as my HR crests 170 i can feel the tank depleting. Then again,  i hit 40 years old in March, so reaching 180bpm is getting close to theoretical heart attack range
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 15, 2023, 11:52:42 AM
Nice time in your half marathon Tomi!! Nice pace pickup in the back end too.  185 HR!!  :eek Was the slower couple of km's in the middle intentional?
Thank you.
I go near 200 HR sometimes, I guess it's just normal for me. I don't look at my heart rate in absolutes really but set HR zones and most of my running was in zones 3 and 4 today, only near the end I went to zone 5 as I picked up the pace. My resting heart rate is under 50 btw.
Sadly, those lower pace kms in the middle were due to side stitch (pain). It's really weird since I didn't have that pain since June last year. Also, so weird I had it at 10 km mark when I run 10 km runs a lot and at much faster pace. I think I found a problem (hydration) but I will test it on my next half. My goal was 1:45 but due to some walking in the middle I finished with 1:50. I'm happy with that because pain was so strong I was almost ready to give up but with some walking and deep breaths it almost completely went away and I somehow managed to run the rest of the race. It may be due to nerves (I was writing about being laid off in my roulette thread), I didn't sleep much for the last 2 days :lol

Yes, well done Tom! Out of curiosity,  how often do you race? It seems like quite frequently.
Thanks. There is a Saturday semi-official league in my city, that's why I have any race almost every Saturday. It's just a local sport association organizing a race but more of a hang out with cookies and drinks :lol I do it as a training, especially when I do tougher 10k because I feel it's easier than just running alone.


For reference, here's a video for heart rate zones and how to calculate them https://youtu.be/tRx1bwsd2DA
For example, I do most of my easy runs (and they really do feel easy for me) in zone 2 which is HR 148-160 which might feel like a lot for  some of you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 15, 2023, 02:02:56 PM
1:50 is still very solid. I'd be glad if I'll do it under 2 hours. I know it's below your goal but still glad for you man!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 15, 2023, 02:10:03 PM
Thank you. Yeah, it's a bit slower that what I wanted but still a massive improvement over last year's 1:59. And I know I can get near that 1:45 in the next one (May 27th) because today there were no problems other that pain in a few middle kms.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2023, 02:18:10 PM
You recovered well from that stitch looking at the times though.

I'll check that video.  Easy runs at 148-160HR?  Wow.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 15, 2023, 03:57:46 PM
Zone 2 at my age ends at 145bpm lol. And yes, i would consider zone 2 easy. Sub 2hr halfs definitely wouldn't be anywhere near zone 2 for me though
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2023, 03:49:06 AM
We've discussed it before, but my legs and muscles hold me back well before my heart rate a lot of the times.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 16, 2023, 05:16:49 AM
Out of curiosity Tomi, how're you measuring your HR? I often find my watch doesn't seem very accurate for that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 16, 2023, 07:59:44 AM
For cycling, i find the watch gives a reasonably close measurement compared to my chest strap. It tends to lag on updating though, so it's not great if I'm trying to make pace adjustments based on HR. Per a cyclingweekly.com article last week (i did not fact check their article, but they did quote a study) the wrist monitors can be 20% off compared to a chest strap, and it gets worse the more you move. It's probably more accurate for cycling than running or swimming  simply because there's less arm movement.

From my experience swimming,  i will absolutely vouch for this. I've manually checked my HR in the pool to compare against my watch,  and they've been quite far apart. Except for my commute to work, i always just wear the chest strap
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 16, 2023, 09:16:37 AM
Out of curiosity Tomi, how're you measuring your HR? I often find my watch doesn't seem very accurate for that.
Yep, watch only. I know it might not be accurate and I will definitely invest in chest strap HR monitor sometime soon. But I figured even if wrist monitor isn't 100% accurate relative numbers (differences) should still be somewhat accurate.
I still need to check those monitor further, I know Garmins should be fine (especially since I use Garmin watch) but they seem pricey.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2023, 07:00:30 PM
Out of curiosity Tomi, how're you measuring your HR? I often find my watch doesn't seem very accurate for that.
Yep, watch only. I know it might not be accurate and I will definitely invest in chest strap HR monitor sometime soon. But I figured even if wrist monitor isn't 100% accurate relative numbers (differences) should still be somewhat accurate.
I still need to check those monitor further, I know Garmins should be fine (especially since I use Garmin watch) but they seem pricey.

I was out the other day and had a look at them.  Good lord!  You can pay up to $1500, just for a watch!!!  :eek
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2023, 07:04:37 PM
Damn, fucked something in my ankle yesterday/this morning.  Feels like a bad shin splint but in just one leg.  I'm hoping it's just over tightness radiating down and last time I was able to relieve it but a lot of trigger pointing and massaging on the calf. 

I think I overdid it last week.  Clocked up 91km and then an 8km this morning.  Happy with the volume but I guess you pay the price sometimes.  Unfortunately, might need a couple of days off.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on April 17, 2023, 05:52:13 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.  I've got a few exercise band workouts to do while I'm gone and I'll be getting in tons of walking.  But I am taking a 10 day break from logging my food intake.  I know the scale will go up after I get back.  I also know it will go back down again pretty fast after I get back on the horse.

So I saw this little fitness questionnaire and thought I'd see if you all wanted to try it out.  Are the following statements true or myth?

1.  If you want to be fit, you have to exercise really, really hard every single day.
2.  Carbs and sugar make you fat
3.  If you are not sore after a workout, you didn't work hard enough.
4.  If you want a six pack, you have to do more ab exercises
5.  You need a gym membership to get fit
6.  If you want to lose under arm fat then you have to do tricep exercises
7.  Your body needs to be cleansed or detoxified
8.  Strength training will make you bulky
9.  Sweating more means you burn more calories
10. You have to eat protein 30 minutes after a workout
11. You have to cut out fast food if you want to lose weight

Nice work!  :tup :tup

I suspect most or all of your statements are pretty true, although when it comes to losing weight, diet is like 90% of it, at least for me. Even when I was younger, I could work out for two hours a day and wouldn't drop a pound until I ate better.  Of course, everyone is different, so (the general) you do what is best for you.

Thanks!  But all of those statements are absolutely false. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on April 17, 2023, 06:00:15 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.

Congrats! Not only on the weight loss but also on what seems a much healthier approach. The bold seems to be true for most things, and most people.

This is what most irks me about certain really popular fad diets—people using them to lose weight quickly without a mind toward total health. I often look at those diets and think, if losing weight quickly is the goal and you're willing to eat a very restrictive and imbalanced diet to achieve that goal, why not take up smoking and let the nicotine suppress your appetite? Why not take up meth? Obviously I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think there's something to it: there aren't many better illustrations of our pervasive unhealthfulness than the fact that so many equate rapid weight loss with health. It's a sick approach to sickness.

You are so right.  And I think that is what upsets me the most thinking back on the YEARS of yoyo dieting.  The whole purpose was to drop the number on the scale as quickly as possible.  And sometimes I could do it amazingly well.  The problem is that nobody can continue that - unless they develop an eating disorder.  These fad diets are simply not sustainable.  The one that I see people talking about now is Noom.  They recommend something like 1200 calories a day.  That is literally what is recommended for an average sized child.  Plus they use a red light, yellow light, green light method which castigates food into good or bad categories.  It's all bullshit.  I eat over 2000 calories a day with an average of 130 grams of protein (I should really get more) and I am never hungry.  I never want to binge.  I'm learning what it takes to eat foods I enjoy in moderation in a way I can continue on for the rest of my life.  I can go out to restaurants.  I can enjoy holidays and special events without letting it derail anything.  It feels great.  Why did it take me so long to figure this out?  :'(

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on April 17, 2023, 06:04:25 PM
Damn, fucked something in my ankle yesterday/this morning.  Feels like a bad shin splint but in just one leg.  I'm hoping it's just over tightness radiating down and last time I was able to relieve it but a lot of trigger pointing and massaging on the calf. 

I think I overdid it last week.  Clocked up 91km and then an 8km this morning.  Happy with the volume but I guess you pay the price sometimes.  Unfortunately, might need a couple of days off.  :(

You runners amaze me.  I can't run unless someone or something is chasing me.   :lol

Sorry to hear about your injury.  When my shin splints start talking to me I know it is time for a new pair of shoes.

Rest up.  Listen to your body.  A couple of days is nothing.  You can always focus on upper body. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2023, 06:10:48 PM
Damn, fucked something in my ankle yesterday/this morning.  Feels like a bad shin splint but in just one leg.  I'm hoping it's just over tightness radiating down and last time I was able to relieve it but a lot of trigger pointing and massaging on the calf. 

I think I overdid it last week.  Clocked up 91km and then an 8km this morning.  Happy with the volume but I guess you pay the price sometimes.  Unfortunately, might need a couple of days off.  :(

You runners amaze me.  I can't run unless someone or something is chasing me.   :lol

Sorry to hear about your injury.  When my shin splints start talking to me I know it is time for a new pair of shoes.

Rest up.  Listen to your body.  A couple of days is nothing.  You can always focus on upper body.

Thanks Harmony.  I went from not even being able to run 100m without feeling like I was going to die.  Like everything, it takes time and persistence.  Just have to be prepared to take baby steps each day.

Yeah, the ankle is pretty niggly this morning.  Not sure, hoping by the weekend now I can get back out there.  Definitely related to calf tightness I think.  But it gets so tight, it's impossible to budge even with massage where you bruise yourself.    Yeah, will focus on heavy weights each afternoon.  might jump on the rower or something afterwards to get the heartrate going.  It is what it is.  It happens and I'm always just so shit at recovery.  I'm better but the extra kms last week obviously took its toll.  No regrets though.  Just has become part of my morning routine so today I'm even more of a grumpy bastard.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2023, 06:11:44 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.  I've got a few exercise band workouts to do while I'm gone and I'll be getting in tons of walking.  But I am taking a 10 day break from logging my food intake.  I know the scale will go up after I get back.  I also know it will go back down again pretty fast after I get back on the horse.

So I saw this little fitness questionnaire and thought I'd see if you all wanted to try it out.  Are the following statements true or myth?

1.  If you want to be fit, you have to exercise really, really hard every single day.
2.  Carbs and sugar make you fat
3.  If you are not sore after a workout, you didn't work hard enough.
4.  If you want a six pack, you have to do more ab exercises
5.  You need a gym membership to get fit
6.  If you want to lose under arm fat then you have to do tricep exercises
7.  Your body needs to be cleansed or detoxified
8.  Strength training will make you bulky
9.  Sweating more means you burn more calories
10. You have to eat protein 30 minutes after a workout
11. You have to cut out fast food if you want to lose weight

Nice work!  :tup :tup

I suspect most or all of your statements are pretty true, although when it comes to losing weight, diet is like 90% of it, at least for me. Even when I was younger, I could work out for two hours a day and wouldn't drop a pound until I ate better.  Of course, everyone is different, so (the general) you do what is best for you.

Thanks!  But all of those statements are absolutely false.

Ah, good.  I was hoping you didn't actually believe these.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2023, 06:27:16 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.

Congrats! Not only on the weight loss but also on what seems a much healthier approach. The bold seems to be true for most things, and most people.

This is what most irks me about certain really popular fad diets—people using them to lose weight quickly without a mind toward total health. I often look at those diets and think, if losing weight quickly is the goal and you're willing to eat a very restrictive and imbalanced diet to achieve that goal, why not take up smoking and let the nicotine suppress your appetite? Why not take up meth? Obviously I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think there's something to it: there aren't many better illustrations of our pervasive unhealthfulness than the fact that so many equate rapid weight loss with health. It's a sick approach to sickness.

You are so right.  And I think that is what upsets me the most thinking back on the YEARS of yoyo dieting.  The whole purpose was to drop the number on the scale as quickly as possible.  And sometimes I could do it amazingly well.  The problem is that nobody can continue that - unless they develop an eating disorder.  These fad diets are simply not sustainable.  The one that I see people talking about now is Noom.  They recommend something like 1200 calories a day.  That is literally what is recommended for an average sized child.  Plus they use a red light, yellow light, green light method which castigates food into good or bad categories.  It's all bullshit.  I eat over 2000 calories a day with an average of 130 grams of protein (I should really get more) and I am never hungry.  I never want to binge.  I'm learning what it takes to eat foods I enjoy in moderation in a way I can continue on for the rest of my life.  I can go out to restaurants.  I can enjoy holidays and special events without letting it derail anything.  It feels great.  Why did it take me so long to figure this out?  :'(

Things click eventually, like anything.  Sometimes it comes with maturity, other times pure education.  I wouldn't overthink why, just be glad you're on a good path now.

On the other bolded parts though, yes, eating disorders can come about without you even knowing it.  I've shared a bit of my history but while you work things out, eating disorder mindsets are hard to shake.  I realised the past week I still have them.  The misses was away last week and my whole structure went out the window.  Was doing IF through the week and dinners through the week were light.  But that meant I went stupid on the weekend.  It's funny, it wasn't even that enjoyable but still ate shit the whole weekend.  Felt awful couldn't sleep and even had crappy leftovers last night.  Not sure why I do this to myself.  I can kind of get the sense of what drug addicts go through on a much smaller scale, it's hard to describe.  I know I'm going to feel like shit afterwards, be moody and whatnot, but I still do it, and look forward to it. 

The other funny thing is, because of the way I managed the week, my weight was the same, even lost a couple of hundred grams.  It's like I enable myself and I enjoy running but it's like two bites of the cherry.  It's not good, so even though you're doing great, never get complacent and think you've got it worked out.  You say you never want to binge, but trust me, you will at some point but the way I look at it, if you are consistently good with your diet day in and day out, slip ups now and then aren't going to make any difference.

It's probably me though, when people say they are perfect on their diets, never cheat or even people that don't eat fast food and all that stuff, I just don't get it.  There's only so long I can go without blowing a gasket and going stupid.  I guess that's the eating issues of the past.

I don't know why I posted all of that...
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Harmony on April 17, 2023, 07:36:27 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.

Congrats! Not only on the weight loss but also on what seems a much healthier approach. The bold seems to be true for most things, and most people.

This is what most irks me about certain really popular fad diets—people using them to lose weight quickly without a mind toward total health. I often look at those diets and think, if losing weight quickly is the goal and you're willing to eat a very restrictive and imbalanced diet to achieve that goal, why not take up smoking and let the nicotine suppress your appetite? Why not take up meth? Obviously I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think there's something to it: there aren't many better illustrations of our pervasive unhealthfulness than the fact that so many equate rapid weight loss with health. It's a sick approach to sickness.

You are so right.  And I think that is what upsets me the most thinking back on the YEARS of yoyo dieting.  The whole purpose was to drop the number on the scale as quickly as possible.  And sometimes I could do it amazingly well.  The problem is that nobody can continue that - unless they develop an eating disorder.  These fad diets are simply not sustainable.  The one that I see people talking about now is Noom.  They recommend something like 1200 calories a day.  That is literally what is recommended for an average sized child.  Plus they use a red light, yellow light, green light method which castigates food into good or bad categories.  It's all bullshit.  I eat over 2000 calories a day with an average of 130 grams of protein (I should really get more) and I am never hungry.  I never want to binge.  I'm learning what it takes to eat foods I enjoy in moderation in a way I can continue on for the rest of my life.  I can go out to restaurants.  I can enjoy holidays and special events without letting it derail anything.  It feels great.  Why did it take me so long to figure this out?  :'(

Things click eventually, like anything.  Sometimes it comes with maturity, other times pure education.  I wouldn't overthink why, just be glad you're on a good path now.

On the other bolded parts though, yes, eating disorders can come about without you even knowing it.  I've shared a bit of my history but while you work things out, eating disorder mindsets are hard to shake.  I realised the past week I still have them.  The misses was away last week and my whole structure went out the window.  Was doing IF through the week and dinners through the week were light.  But that meant I went stupid on the weekend.  It's funny, it wasn't even that enjoyable but still ate shit the whole weekend.  Felt awful couldn't sleep and even had crappy leftovers last night.  Not sure why I do this to myself.  I can kind of get the sense of what drug addicts go through on a much smaller scale, it's hard to describe.  I know I'm going to feel like shit afterwards, be moody and whatnot, but I still do it, and look forward to it.

The other funny thing is, because of the way I managed the week, my weight was the same, even lost a couple of hundred grams.  It's like I enable myself and I enjoy running but it's like two bites of the cherry.  It's not good, so even though you're doing great, never get complacent and think you've got it worked out.  You say you never want to binge, but trust me, you will at some point but the way I look at it, if you are consistently good with your diet day in and day out, slip ups now and then aren't going to make any difference.

It's probably me though, when people say they are perfect on their diets, never cheat or even people that don't eat fast food and all that stuff, I just don't get it.  There's only so long I can go without blowing a gasket and going stupid.  I guess that's the eating issues of the past.

I don't know why I posted all of that...

Haha, it's all good.  I am definitely not perfect on my diet.  But I never use the word "cheat" any more either.  I'm really trying to get away from that restriction mentality and using words like "cheat" puts me right back there.  But I should have been clear when I said I don't binge.  What I meant is more like what you said above that I bolded.  My cycle used to be calorie restriction Monday through Thursday then come Friday after work, it was "fuck-it-all" until Monday morning.  Wash rinse repeat.  And the fuck-it-all phase wiped out any calorie deficit and then some.  But I still have my moments.  I'm on vacation ATM and I'm not tracking a damn thing and I'm enjoying foods I would normally eat only rarely and drinking more than I typically do.  And it's fine in my mind because I know it's a short period of time and once I get home, it is back to consistency.  I am working out and walking a lot while on vacation so that helps too.

I'm sort of looking at this week as a surplus week.  A lot of body builders (I am NOT a body builder but I follow a couple of female builders and they are incredible to learn from) will actually put clients into a surplus to build muscle for a cycle and then cut for a cycle to drop fat and show off the muscle they built in surplus.  My trainer actually said, "Eat what you want so long as you get your protein in."  So I'm fairly sure when I get back I'll cut a couple hundred calories for a month or 2.  I'm excited to see what happens.  It is kind of like a giant science experiment at this point.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2023, 09:06:03 PM
Well, I'm going to crow a little bit.  I'm down 30 pounds since July 25th and 14 pounds since January when I began lifting and working with my trainer.  Best part was closet diving before my trip to Hawaii and finding so many things that I bought during the pandemic that I could never fit into or wouldn't feel comfortable in.  All of my brand new summer clothing fits, including swim suits and I'm feeling more toned and leaner than I have in years.  The Hawaii trip was a great motivator and once I get back, I put in another hard push for the last 20 pounds - hopefully by the end of the year because for me, slow and steady seems to be best.

Congrats! Not only on the weight loss but also on what seems a much healthier approach. The bold seems to be true for most things, and most people.

This is what most irks me about certain really popular fad diets—people using them to lose weight quickly without a mind toward total health. I often look at those diets and think, if losing weight quickly is the goal and you're willing to eat a very restrictive and imbalanced diet to achieve that goal, why not take up smoking and let the nicotine suppress your appetite? Why not take up meth? Obviously I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think there's something to it: there aren't many better illustrations of our pervasive unhealthfulness than the fact that so many equate rapid weight loss with health. It's a sick approach to sickness.

You are so right.  And I think that is what upsets me the most thinking back on the YEARS of yoyo dieting.  The whole purpose was to drop the number on the scale as quickly as possible.  And sometimes I could do it amazingly well.  The problem is that nobody can continue that - unless they develop an eating disorder.  These fad diets are simply not sustainable.  The one that I see people talking about now is Noom.  They recommend something like 1200 calories a day.  That is literally what is recommended for an average sized child.  Plus they use a red light, yellow light, green light method which castigates food into good or bad categories.  It's all bullshit.  I eat over 2000 calories a day with an average of 130 grams of protein (I should really get more) and I am never hungry.  I never want to binge.  I'm learning what it takes to eat foods I enjoy in moderation in a way I can continue on for the rest of my life.  I can go out to restaurants.  I can enjoy holidays and special events without letting it derail anything.  It feels great.  Why did it take me so long to figure this out?  :'(

Things click eventually, like anything.  Sometimes it comes with maturity, other times pure education.  I wouldn't overthink why, just be glad you're on a good path now.

On the other bolded parts though, yes, eating disorders can come about without you even knowing it.  I've shared a bit of my history but while you work things out, eating disorder mindsets are hard to shake.  I realised the past week I still have them.  The misses was away last week and my whole structure went out the window.  Was doing IF through the week and dinners through the week were light.  But that meant I went stupid on the weekend.  It's funny, it wasn't even that enjoyable but still ate shit the whole weekend.  Felt awful couldn't sleep and even had crappy leftovers last night.  Not sure why I do this to myself.  I can kind of get the sense of what drug addicts go through on a much smaller scale, it's hard to describe.  I know I'm going to feel like shit afterwards, be moody and whatnot, but I still do it, and look forward to it.

The other funny thing is, because of the way I managed the week, my weight was the same, even lost a couple of hundred grams.  It's like I enable myself and I enjoy running but it's like two bites of the cherry.  It's not good, so even though you're doing great, never get complacent and think you've got it worked out.  You say you never want to binge, but trust me, you will at some point but the way I look at it, if you are consistently good with your diet day in and day out, slip ups now and then aren't going to make any difference.

It's probably me though, when people say they are perfect on their diets, never cheat or even people that don't eat fast food and all that stuff, I just don't get it.  There's only so long I can go without blowing a gasket and going stupid.  I guess that's the eating issues of the past.

I don't know why I posted all of that...

Haha, it's all good.  I am definitely not perfect on my diet.  But I never use the word "cheat" any more either.  I'm really trying to get away from that restriction mentality and using words like "cheat" puts me right back there.  But I should have been clear when I said I don't binge.  What I meant is more like what you said above that I bolded.  My cycle used to be calorie restriction Monday through Thursday then come Friday after work, it was "fuck-it-all" until Monday morning.  Wash rinse repeat.  And the fuck-it-all phase wiped out any calorie deficit and then some.  But I still have my moments.  I'm on vacation ATM and I'm not tracking a damn thing and I'm enjoying foods I would normally eat only rarely and drinking more than I typically do.  And it's fine in my mind because I know it's a short period of time and once I get home, it is back to consistency.  I am working out and walking a lot while on vacation so that helps too.

I'm sort of looking at this week as a surplus week.  A lot of body builders (I am NOT a body builder but I follow a couple of female builders and they are incredible to learn from) will actually put clients into a surplus to build muscle for a cycle and then cut for a cycle to drop fat and show off the muscle they built in surplus.  My trainer actually said, "Eat what you want so long as you get your protein in."  So I'm fairly sure when I get back I'll cut a couple hundred calories for a month or 2.  I'm excited to see what happens.  It is kind of like a giant science experiment at this point.  :laugh:

Have done that for years.  Issue is, I've gotten out of it many times but I've fallen back into many times too.  I guess that's what I was kinda alluding to.  It's dangerous.  People underestimate how much work they can undo in a couple of meals.

Eating over at times is fine.  Good for performance, hormones etc.  The main thing is you know what you're doing so any extra that goes on will be able to come off quickly also.  Sounds like you're on a good path with it all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 22, 2023, 11:00:28 AM
Holy shit I'm so tired. Finished week 6 of my half marathon training with another 10k (technically still got a 3.5km run tomorrow but it shouldn't be a problem) and... I'm excited to go further but man, this is pushing me far beyond what I've done so far in terms of training.

You guys running your half marathons and full marathons out there and then posting about it casually, you guys are either insane or insanely good (probably the second option).

Also tried installing Strava on my Samsung Galaxy S21+ and apparently it's unavailable in my country :facepalm: I just wanted to see Kade's and Tomi's runs. Oh well.

Kade, hopefully your injury has healed.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
@Evermind what do you use for tracking runs?

BTW I bought the Polar H9 HR monitor strap the other day and had ~4k race today and used it to set my zones. Apparently, it's even higher than my watch estimated :lol but strap seems to measure my easier runs as lower HR. Basically, I have lower lows and higher highs now.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2023, 05:41:16 PM
Holy shit I'm so tired. Finished week 6 of my half marathon training with another 10k (technically still got a 3.5km run tomorrow but it shouldn't be a problem) and... I'm excited to go further but man, this is pushing me far beyond what I've done so far in terms of training.

You guys running your half marathons and full marathons out there and then posting about it casually, you guys are either insane or insanely good (probably the second option).

Also tried installing Strava on my Samsung Galaxy S21+ and apparently it's unavailable in my country :facepalm: I just wanted to see Kade's and Tomi's runs. Oh well.

Kade, hopefully your injury has healed.

Definitely insane mate.  :lol

The mileage seems daunting once you first get running but you get used to it, just keep going.  Ensure you get the sleep you need to.

Thanks Ruslan but nah, the ankle is still niggling.  My right leg has been pretty chronic in terms of tightness and never been quite right since I busted my big toe on my left foot years ago.  Was in a boot for about 6 months and had two surgeries but still was working full time and walking around.  My right leg was compensating and has never really been the same since.  I think chronic tightness was just enough to tweak something in the ankle.  It's a lot better and hopefully another 2 or 3 days I can try and go for a trot, hopefully.

In the pool this weekend, which I hate, but 3km in the pool is a decent substitution.

But yeah, what are you using to track?

@Evermind what do you use for tracking runs?

BTW I bought the Polar H9 HR monitor strap the other day and had ~4k race today and used it to set my zones. Apparently, it's even higher than my watch estimated :lol but strap seems to measure my easier runs as lower HR. Basically, I have lower lows and higher highs now.

Saw that, nice time.  But higher than your watch!?  :eek
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 01:31:44 AM
@Evermind what do you use for tracking runs?

Just the Samsung fitness app that was pre-installed on the phone.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2023, 03:50:23 AM
I don't get how Strava isn't available in your country.  There's people all over the world on that thing.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 04:54:13 AM
I don't get how Strava isn't available in your country.  There's people all over the world on that thing.

They quit Russia in 2022 (and Belarus too I think) because my country is waging war against Ukraine.

I googled a little bit into it and apparently if you had in installed before they quit (March 2022) you can still access it with VPN. I can't even install it in Google Play (with or without VPN), just says it's unavailable for my device.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 23, 2023, 05:00:25 AM
I think you could register on web version (with VPN) and if you use Samsung Health make them sync when you upload activity, that's how I used Strava with Samsung Health. That way you don't ever need to use Strava mobile app. You could probably even export GPX from Samsung Health app (or whatever app you use) and manually import it on Strava web.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2023, 05:00:56 AM
That's crazy mate but I did kinda think about the situation over there being a reason after I posted.

On another note, it's great to see you around again lately.  Hopefully you are going well.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 05:04:20 AM
I think you could register on web version (with VPN) and if you use Samsung Health make them sync when you upload activity, that's how I used Strava with Samsung Health. That way you don't ever need to use Strava mobile app.

Huh, I'll try that right now.

That's crazy mate but I did kinda think about the situation over there being a reason after I posted.

On another note, it's great to see you around again lately.  Hopefully you are going well.

I mostly visit to send roulette songs, check out the guitarists countdown or to rant in this thread. :lol But yeah, I guess I'm much better mentally than I was last summer/autumn.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 06:53:23 AM
I think you could register on web version (with VPN) and if you use Samsung Health make them sync when you upload activity, that's how I used Strava with Samsung Health. That way you don't ever need to use Strava mobile app.

Huh, I'll try that right now.

Okay so that worked I think, I'll test this on a Tuesday run. According to Strava my speed and distances are actually quite higher than Samsung Health was telling me. Strava says my latest 10k is more like 10.5k and it's 5:39 per km instead of 5:54. Interesting.

How do I add you guys? (added Tomi because apparently we're friends on Facebook)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 23, 2023, 07:06:34 AM
Nice, I'm glad :D
You can find Kade and Rich through my profile.
Those discrepancies between services are quite normal, sadly. I guess they analyse GPS records differently, especially if there are hills.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 07:11:02 AM
Found Kade, but the only Rich you have in your profile is some bearded Canadian guy. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 23, 2023, 09:55:59 AM
Found Kade, but the only Rich you have in your profile is some bearded Canadian guy. :lol

That would be me lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 23, 2023, 10:19:16 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 10:22:57 AM
I mean, when I think "Rich" I only associate the name with two DTF members: ariich and Elite, so that's my fault. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: SchecterShredder on April 23, 2023, 10:43:15 AM
I mean, when I think "Rich" I only associate the name with two DTF members: ariich and Elite, so that's my fault. :lol
I mostly just haunt the exercise, NHL, and reading threads.  In fact,  posting my Strava profile here is what doxxed me to begin with
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on April 23, 2023, 10:47:57 AM
I mean, when I think "Rich" I only associate the name with two DTF members: ariich and Elite, so that's my fault. :lol
I mostly just haunt the exercise, NHL, and reading threads.  In fact,  posting my Strava profile here is what doxxed me to begin with

That was awkward as hell from my end :lol but at least now we're subscribed to each other on Strava! We should really kiss now or something.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2023, 02:42:29 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on May 13, 2023, 09:55:48 AM
This week was hectic as hell, was standing in for my boss at work, missed my Wednesday run because I came home from work late in the evening, then didn't really do any progress in the task assigned to me as people kept pestering me during the week, so had to work 11 hours today (Saturday) as well, so skipped Saturday's run too. Two skipped runs and I'm still sleep-deprived and don't feel rested at all, and got 13km to run tomorrow morning according to my training plan.

Just venting here I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2023, 07:30:52 PM
Don't overthink it bud.  Lace 'em up and get it done.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 14, 2023, 03:46:39 AM
Good job!  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on May 14, 2023, 03:54:07 AM
Thanks Kade!

It's weird, actually felt pretty good during the run although when I posted yesterday I wasn't looking forward to it at all.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 14, 2023, 03:59:34 AM
Yeah, sometimes it just clicks even ypu don't feel it beforehand.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 25, 2023, 03:44:00 AM
Yeah, another half-marathon in 2 days. Ironically, I felt more ready and in form a month ago. Inbetween job interviews, bad (rainy) weather and traveling I didn't have that much will for running. I'm still not sure will I start as to reach my goal time or just to try to do better than the last time. I rarely feel as good as I should on real races (nerves probably). On contrary, a few weeks ago I unexpectedly ran my 2nd best 10k ever without trying that much (that was during league - semi official race, that does not make me nervous ;D).

(Not so) fun fact: the city I run in on Saturday is special for every Croat, the biggest symbol of Croatian war for independence. It was almost completely destroyed in 1991. It has been reconstructed since but there are still traces of war (as is in my whole region, especially smaller cities).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on May 25, 2023, 04:58:03 AM
10k - was that the 46 minutes one? That was impressive for sure.

Still 2,5 months until my half-marathon so I'm not that nervous yet. :lol Good luck with yours! We'll be rooting for you on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 25, 2023, 05:31:16 AM
10k - was that the 46 minutes one? That was impressive for sure.

Still 2,5 months until my half-marathon so I'm not that nervous yet. :lol Good luck with yours! We'll be rooting for you on Saturday.
More like 48 minutes, it was my 2nd best. Thanks :D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2023, 06:03:19 AM
Do you have a goal time Tomi?  I can't recall the time of your last one my apologies.

10k - was that the 46 minutes one? That was impressive for sure.

Still 2,5 months until my half-marathon so I'm not that nervous yet. :lol Good luck with yours! We'll be rooting for you on Saturday.

Plenty of time mate.

45 minutes would be my goal for a 10km.  Don't see it happening anytime soon though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 25, 2023, 06:50:49 AM
Do you have a goal time Tomi?  I can't recall the time of your last one my apologies.
My goal on previous HM was 1:45 (5:00 min/km) pace but due to abdomen pain I had to walk for a few minutes. I'll see, if I feel good I could try that again. But if not, I'll just try to be under 1:50 which would still be my PB.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2023, 02:24:01 PM
Yep, that's my target at some point too.  Its funny how different and harder it is holding a 5 minute pace for distance compared to a say 5.10 pace.  Such a small time difference but feels so far apart, for me anyway.

Good luck bro!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 25, 2023, 03:14:20 PM
Yeah, 5:00 is already hard for extended amount of time. My sweet spot is around 5:20, where I don't get tired easy but it's still fun.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2023, 06:09:04 PM
Yeah, 5:00 is already hard for extended amount of time. My sweet spot is around 5:20, where I don't get tired easy but it's still fun.
Thanks :)

Yeah, pretty much the same for me currently.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. don't neglect rest/recovery!
Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2023, 04:30:43 AM
Do you have a goal time Tomi?  I can't recall the time of your last one my apologies.
My goal on previous HM was 1:45 (5:00 min/km) pace but due to abdomen pain I had to walk for a few minutes. I'll see, if I feel good I could try that again. But if not, I'll just try to be under 1:50 which would still be my PB.

Just saw your post on Strava - if it's any consolation (probably not) you still did better than I hope to do in my upcoming race. :)

(I was thinking about your race while running today but apparently that didn't help either lol)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 27, 2023, 05:22:40 AM
Yeah, almost died :lol my form deteriorated since my previous half marathon and this course was much hillier. And again, my side started hurting after 16k. Oh well, I don't care that much since I didn't expect much better.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2023, 05:42:28 AM
Yeah, almost died :lol my form deteriorated since my previous half marathon and this course was much hillier. And again, my side started hurting after 16k. Oh well, I don't care that much since I didn't expect much better.

All good mileage under the belt mate.  Every run isn't a good one.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2023, 06:17:26 AM
Yeah, almost died :lol my form deteriorated since my previous half marathon and this course was much hillier. And again, my side started hurting after 16k. Oh well, I don't care that much since I didn't expect much better.

All good mileage under the belt mate.  Every run isn't a good one.

Did you mean "not every run is a good one?" or are all runs just bad? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 27, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
 :lol

10k next weekend. I realized 10k is actually my favorite race even though I never "officially" run one. I just hope I'll recover until then :P don't ask why I do this to myself :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2023, 07:31:52 AM
:lol

10k next weekend. I realized 10k is actually my favorite race even though I never "officially" run one. I just hope I'll recover until then :P don't ask why I do this to myself :lol

No questions from me - I had only signed up for August 6th half-marathon in another city at first but since I've got 17 days of vacation starting right after that day, I also signed up for August 20th half-marathon in my city. :lol I adjusted my training plan accordingly but it still seems daunting. After that maybe I can finally get some rest.

Recover and slay that 10k next week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 27, 2023, 07:50:10 AM
Thanks.
What is weather like in August there?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2023, 09:09:07 AM
Thanks.
What is weather like in August there?

In Moscow it's likely to be blazing hot as in 30°C, it Saint-Petersburg you can only guess, might be the same 30°C, might be raining and 20°C. Guess we'll see.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 27, 2023, 09:25:39 AM
Damn, I thought maybe it was a bit colder. Good luck.
I ran an evening half marathon in August last year. Even thought it started at 19:14 (not a typo) it was really hot. I don't think I'll go this year but maybe I all run 7 or 14 km course (it's basically 7km course with 1, 2 or 3 laps depending on a race).
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 27, 2023, 10:53:52 AM
Damn, I thought maybe it was a bit colder. Good luck.
I ran an evening half marathon in August last year. Even thought it started at 19:14 (not a typo) it was really hot. I don't think I'll go this year but maybe I all run 7 or 14 km course (it's basically 7km course with 1, 2 or 3 laps depending on a race).

My very first marathon was an evening start (around 19h). It was on the summer solstice weekend,  and was marketed at race the twilight. Being as far north as we are, the sun doesn't set until 23h on the solstice. It was an interesting experience,  but i much prefer morning races.  I found it tough to prepare mentally and physically for the late start.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on May 27, 2023, 11:15:54 PM
Well fucking done, Kade. You get additional kudos on here for that.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on May 28, 2023, 03:32:21 AM
Well fucking done, Kade. You get additional kudos on here for that.

Yeah, no shit. Good job.

(it's basically 7km course with 1, 2 or 3 laps depending on a race).

I thought on that for a bit and this is what I kinda dislike in such races - I prefer the singular lap courses which allow to see more of the city/town while running. That's why, for example, I really like my first half-marathon route and dislike the second one (although the second one should be easier to run as it has fewer inclines):

(https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/05/63c1ce1a669e6172b7da78d120ebed5a.png)(https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/05/a2a37586d04fd6da22a2051e26a704e3.png)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2023, 03:55:48 AM
Yeah, almost died :lol my form deteriorated since my previous half marathon and this course was much hillier. And again, my side started hurting after 16k. Oh well, I don't care that much since I didn't expect much better.

All good mileage under the belt mate.  Every run isn't a good one.

Did you mean "not every run is a good one?" or are all runs just bad? :lol

Oh yeah, definitely that.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2023, 03:58:20 AM
Well fucking done, Kade. You get additional kudos on here for that.

Thanks brother.  Wasn't aiming for it but felt pretty fucking strong this morning, especially after a 22km the day before.

My goal at the start of the year was a half at 5 minute pace or under but I'm pretty fucking happy with that one to be not far off.

With some work stress lately it's been good being able to get out there, no music just focus.  Just hope the legs pull up okay.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2023, 04:00:43 AM
Damn, I thought maybe it was a bit colder. Good luck.
I ran an evening half marathon in August last year. Even thought it started at 19:14 (not a typo) it was really hot. I don't think I'll go this year but maybe I all run 7 or 14 km course (it's basically 7km course with 1, 2 or 3 laps depending on a race).

My very first marathon was an evening start (around 19h). It was on the summer solstice weekend,  and was marketed at race the twilight. Being as far north as we are, the sun doesn't set until 23h on the solstice. It was an interesting experience,  but i much prefer morning races.  I found it tough to prepare mentally and physically for the late start.

Wow, that would be a interesting experience for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2023, 08:45:55 PM
Ruslan, nice 10km time there.  A sub 5:00 10km is a great achievement.  Looking at your splits were you blowing hard come the final few kms or were they intentionally slower?  I see however there was a little elevation in one of those last ones which probably didn't help.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on May 30, 2023, 10:09:24 PM
Ruslan, nice 10km time there.  A sub 5:00 10km is a great achievement.  Looking at your splits were you blowing hard come the final few kms or were they intentionally slower?  I see however there was a little elevation in one of those last ones which probably didn't help.

Thank you Kade! I'm pretty happy with that time too.

The last two km drop wasn't intentional at all. If anything I usually try to go faster in the end but I guess I didn't have it in me at that point.

I went a little too hard on the first 5k, so slowed down a bit on the 6th, after that I thought I was good until I suddenly wasn't somewhere after hitting 8k. I did feel that incline for sure :lol I don't think I could've held the sub-5:00 pace for much longer tbh.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 31, 2023, 02:30:54 AM
Yeah, that's a great time. 50 min is a mental barrier that just need to be knocked down. From now on, you'll probably get faster and faster, once you know you can do it :biggrin:

My 10k is on Saturday, 7PM. Legs are fine now but temperature could be a problem. I know most people are slower when temperature is over 20C but I feel like I'm dead in just a few minutes when it's hot, don't know how to overcome it :-\
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2023, 04:10:34 AM
Ruslan, nice 10km time there.  A sub 5:00 10km is a great achievement.  Looking at your splits were you blowing hard come the final few kms or were they intentionally slower?  I see however there was a little elevation in one of those last ones which probably didn't help.

Thank you Kade! I'm pretty happy with that time too.

The last two km drop wasn't intentional at all. If anything I usually try to go faster in the end but I guess I didn't have it in me at that point.

I went a little too hard on the first 5k, so slowed down a bit on the 6th, after that I thought I was good until I suddenly wasn't somewhere after hitting 8k. I did feel that incline for sure :lol I don't think I could've held the sub-5:00 pace for much longer tbh.

Yes, this is what I was going to say if the drop in pace wasn't intentional.  Took me ages to ease into it and not go hard out of the gates.  First km was fine but I think km 2 and 3 were just a little too much too early.

Still great progress man.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2023, 04:12:27 AM
Yeah, that's a great time. 50 min is a mental barrier that just need to be knocked down. From now on, you'll probably get faster and faster, once you know you can do it :biggrin:

My 10k is on Saturday, 7PM. Legs are fine now but temperature could be a problem. I know most people are slower when temperature is over 20C but I feel like I'm dead in just a few minutes when it's hot, don't know how to overcome it :-\

I have that problem in the cold at the moment not use to it lol.

It's a tough one though, are you well hydrated beforehand?  Maybe some electrolytes?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on May 31, 2023, 05:34:58 AM
I don't think that's a problem but I could try to drink more beforehand. I usually refrain from drinking an hour before race to avoid bathroom needs ;D but I might try a few sips of sport drink in last 10 minutes or so, it won't be a problem.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2023, 06:12:23 AM
I don't think that's a problem but I could try to drink more beforehand. I usually refrain from drinking an hour before race to avoid bathroom needs ;D but I might try a few sips of sport drink in last 10 minutes or so, it won't be a problem.

Even though I said that, I hate drinking a lot before a run.  Weighs me down and sloshes around in my stomach lol.

Maybe some training Rocky style in heavy clothing or something lol?  I dunno hey, when it's hot weather, it's simply impossible to escape it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on June 04, 2023, 09:23:53 AM
Kade and Tomi - solid 10k runs, both of you :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
Kade and Tomi - solid 10k runs, both of you :tup

Thanks mate.  Yesterday felt good.  This morning, not so much. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 05, 2023, 02:20:42 AM
Thanks. But I went for PR so I'm not satisfied. My calves hurt lately so I couldn't put into a higher gear. Combination of that and course having stairs (twice up and twice down) left me with less good of a result.

Also, that was a great 15k pace for easy run, Ruslan :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on June 17, 2023, 04:36:52 PM
Kade,  how are the legs after that PR in the half? T'was a beauty!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2023, 05:50:33 PM
Kade,  how are the legs after that PR in the half? T'was a beauty!

Thanks Rich, yeah I'm pretty stoked to be honest that was a goal I had at the start of the year.  Yesterdays run I just warmed into it and thought I could get under the 5 around 14-15km but I'd started out of the gates too slow.  Today I woke up feeling not too bad and again had the thought in the back of my mind of trying again depending on my start.  I started this morning a bit too hard and felt really shitty around the 7km mark.  Was just going to do give it up and do a 12-15km whatever pace run as I saw I hadn't cracked under the 5:00 mark at all at that point but got a second wind at the 10km mark.  That little loop I go around is dead flat and mentally can really just hammer around it as many times as I need to.  It's around 700m a loop so once the second wind came in I put the head down and told myself to keep going and see what happens.

The legs were actually okay through it but the main thing I had was some stomach issues from too much over indulging last night lol.  At the 10km mark my pace was around a 5:06 average.  I had the thought once the second wind came in to see if I could do a few km at around 4:54-4:55 pace to start chipping at the 5:00 average mark.  Faltered a bit around 13km but got a third wind at around 14km.  Was able to get the pace down to around 4:50, so I knew if I could do that past the 15km point, I'd be in for a shot. 

16km, the pace felt really comfortable so I knew I could do it.  One thing that threw me was getting text messages from work.  It was around 7:45am and nine times out of ten on the weekend, I get a text about something if the staff arrive and somethings off.  It went ping at 17km and just was able to ignore it and busted out two more kms.  By the 19km mark, I was still at around that 4:50 so knew it was on.  Headed home/pool (that pool is closed for winter so I like parking there leaving my things inside and heading out) and nailed it!

I've had ongoing issues with my right leg but that's held up nicely especially after a long one yesterday.  Was getting tightness in my left glute and now sitting at home with a coffee, it's pretty tight, but nothing major yet.  The hammies are pretty sore though.  Will do a big rolling and stretching session this arvo and should be alight.  I know a trot out tomorrow morning will be a sore slow one.

Happy though, definitely getting fitter and that was a major goal I've ticked off that I wasn't sure if I was ever going to get.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on June 18, 2023, 03:11:46 AM
Just saw that Kade, congrats! Getting a major goal like this is pretty big, happy for you. I definitely noticed that 700m loop on your runs before and I was like "man doesn't he get tired of running in circles?" :lol I said it before, one of the major reasons I wanted to train for long distance running is to see new places/neighbourhoods around.

Also it feels like it's only four of us in this thread. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on June 18, 2023, 03:43:52 AM
Just saw that Kade, congrats! Getting a major goal like this is pretty big, happy for you. I definitely noticed that 700m loop on your runs before and I was like "man doesn't he get tired of running in circles?" :lol I said it before, one of the major reasons I wanted to train for long distance running is to see new places/neighborhoods around.

Also it feels like it's only four of us in this thread. :lol

Yeah, I'm a bit hard hardcore and crazy like that.  I love seeing new things too but get too distracted haha.

Yeah, bit of a private chat in here now hey.  Chad used to visit in here.  Hopefully he's getting his ass into gear and can come in soon.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on June 18, 2023, 03:46:57 AM
Well he did change the thread title a couple of weeks ago, so I assume he's still reading at least.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on June 18, 2023, 04:03:18 AM
I might shame him into coming in here and posting.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 18, 2023, 06:10:50 AM
Congrats, Kade ;D I hope I'll get under 5:00 this year as well but I'm not sure when.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2023, 03:58:12 AM
Thanks Tomi.  Just keep chipping and don't put pressure on yourself.  It will come.  :tup
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: faizoff on June 19, 2023, 07:13:12 AM
That's amazing, congrats man. I just restarted running a week ago, nothing even remotely close to what you all do. My goal is to eventually run a half marathon this year. Then maybe next year a full one. Long way to go for me, first step has been to change eating habits, get more workouts done lose a ton of weight and aim for longer distances.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on June 19, 2023, 12:16:04 PM
That's amazing, congrats man. I just restarted running a week ago, nothing even remotely close to what you all do. My goal is to eventually run a half marathon this year. Then maybe next year a full one. Long way to go for me, first step has been to change eating habits, get more workouts done lose a ton of weight and aim for longer distances.

:tup

That's pretty much my goal as well. I did set a time/pace goal for my half-marathons as well but honestly as long as I'll finish them (and it does begin to look likely at this point and man, the deadline is closer and closer now - 7 weeks until my first official race ever) I'm probably good.

Not saying it's easy either physically or mentally, but apparently it is doable and so far actually quite rewarding. If you're on Strava I can follow you, if not, feel welcome to post your progress here as it's usually too quiet in here anyway. :)

Meanwhile there's Kade casually running five 10k and 2 half-marathons in a single week :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: faizoff on June 19, 2023, 12:32:57 PM
I just have the Nike running app that keeps track. First aim is to get to 5k, baby steps. Depending the progress I make end of the year half marathon might be possible. Going to really push the next few weeks.


Quote
Meanwhile there's Kade casually running five 10k and 2 half-marathons in a single week :lol


Yeah that's crazy impressive!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on July 16, 2023, 04:10:09 AM
I guess at this point I really should think about getting a watch with an accurate GPS. Here's my control run route today and what Samsung Health gave me :lol

(https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/07/363b7b98cc1d116105b7f71283664335.jpg) vs (https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/07/5d184dded7a2676359e57aae938fe601.jpg)

Three weeks until the official race so it's time to tone it down a bit. With all the stress at work I don't know if I'll beat the 5:40/km goal but we'll see.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 04:37:21 AM
Ztrava says 17km in 1 hour.  Holy hell that's quick haha!

Your race is a half, was that right?  Easy 5.40 mate.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on July 16, 2023, 04:44:14 AM
Ztrava says 17km in 1 hour.  Holy hell that's quick haha!

Your race is a half, was that right?  Easy 5.40 mate.

I saw that on Strava but I'm not sure if I can fix it :lol

Yeah it's a half. There are days when 5:40/km is easy but today I actually struggled to do 5:54/km. Not enough sleep and too much stress at work I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 04:57:25 AM
Don't take the stress on your runs mate.  Use the runs to give yourself a rest from it all.

Sleep though I agree is a crucial element.  Get yourself some coffee or pre workout beforehand and you'll be sweet!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 16, 2023, 05:26:58 AM
Well he did change the thread title a couple of weeks ago, so I assume he's still reading at least.

Periodically. I was on the ball working out for about 5 years, then early ‘22 injured my shoulder and ran into a pretty serious bought of depression and simply fell off the wagon. I’m trying to gear up to get back on that wagon in the next few weeks.  🤞🏻
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 05:03:05 PM
I actually debated putting this in the Funny Thread, but I've joined a gym, and I start tomorrow!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 05:08:41 PM
I actually debated putting this in the Funny Thread, but I've joined a gym, and I start tomorrow!  :lol

Mate, that's fucking outstanding!!!  Not funny at all, brilliant.  I'm stoked for you.

Any advice you need, ask away.  Are you getting personal training sessions to start with or doing things on your own?  What's your goals too?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 05:22:11 PM
I actually debated putting this in the Funny Thread, but I've joined a gym, and I start tomorrow!  :lol

Mate, that's fucking outstanding!!!  Not funny at all, brilliant.  I'm stoked for you.

Any advice you need, ask away.  Are you getting personal training sessions to start with or doing things on your own?  What's your goals too?

Right now, my only goal is to actually make it there. :lol


So my youngest son has been working out for a few years, and my wife wanted to join. She's been going for a couple of weeks with a close friend, and they've been doing classes and treadmill stuff.

We decided to do a Family Plan thing so we'll get my oldest son out of the house. For him, we'll start once or twice a week for the rest of the summer and kick it up to three times a week after Labor Day.
For me, I'd like to get there 4 or 5 times a week.

I am going tomorrow to basically put my body on notice. I won't get back until Thursday because my mother is having surgery on Tuesday and I'll be spending the day with her on Wednesday. But I'm starting this week.

My legs need strengthening and my shoulders have shrunk a bit in the last 10 years.

I've been to the gym at various points in my life, though not since I got married. But since then, I have had spurts of working out at home. I have enough weights and equipment here to suffice.
As far as training, I'm good. I know enough to build a program for myself. I'm not looking at gaining or getting to something in particular. My main thing will be consistency and commitment. I'll be 55 in a couple of months, and I have felt some slippage, so I just really want to regain some of my strength back and improve my overall fitness.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 05:32:45 PM
Brilliant mate.  You hit the right word on the head too, consistency. 

Consistency, patience, persistentance and making it a regular routine you hold yourself accountable to will get you far.  Sounds like you have a good grasp on things and have the knowledge.

There's so much free info out there anyway and 95 percent of personal trainers are fucking hacks anyway.  Just wasn't sure how much background you had.

Good to hear though for when I make it over there we'll be able to go for a 10 mile run!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 05:39:56 PM
Brilliant mate.  You hit the right word on the head too, consistency. 

Consistency, patience, persistentance and making it a regular routine you hold yourself accountable to will get you far.  Sounds like you have a good grasp on things and have the knowledge.

There's so much free info out there anyway and 95 percent of personal trainers are fucking hacks anyway.  Just wasn't sure how much background you had.

Good to hear though for when I make it over there we'll be able to go for a 10 mile run!  ;D

I'll be in my car though. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 06:05:34 PM
 I can't run 55!  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 16, 2023, 06:30:18 PM
I actually debated putting this in the Funny Thread, but I've joined a gym, and I start tomorrow!  :lol

Nice work Tim! Best of luck on your health journey
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 06:34:32 PM
I actually debated putting this in the Funny Thread, but I've joined a gym, and I start tomorrow!  :lol

Nice work Tim! Best of luck on your health journey

Thanks Gary.

If I'm not on DTF tomorrow night, It's because I'll be in the hospital. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 07:36:30 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2023, 07:51:34 PM
I'm alive!!!

So I spent an hour tonight at the gym. Basically did 3x15 of one exercise for each group of muscles. Nothing too heavy but no gimmies either. I really wanted to orient myself on some of the machines and the lay of the room.

I'm tied up the next two days, but I'll be back at it on Thursday with a targeted attack.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2023, 08:28:54 PM
I'm alive!!!

So I spent an hour tonight at the gym. Basically did 3x15 of one exercise for each group of muscles. Nothing too heavy but no gimmies either. I really wanted to orient myself on some of the machines and the lay of the room.

I'm tied up the next two days, but I'll be back at it on Thursday with a targeted attack.

Was wondering if you made it through.  :lol

Nice start.  15 reps is a great starting point to ensure you don't go too heavy too quickly but still get some nice stimulation.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2023, 08:34:48 PM
Tim, you should hold off on weights and watch Synchronized Swimming with Martin Short and Harry Shearer, swimming might be a better start for you lol.  It's classic (Spinal Tap related)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2023, 05:06:06 AM
 :lol

Tim in some dick togs.  Need a picture of that.

I can help with the swimming side if things too!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2023, 06:05:34 AM
You definitely don't need a picture of that!


Tim, you should hold off on weights and watch Synchronized Swimming with Martin Short and Harry Shearer, swimming might be a better start for you lol.  It's classic (Spinal Tap related)
I believe I saw the original broadcast on SNL of that.

My wife was trying to get me into the water aerobics class.

Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:35:57 AM
You definitely don't need a picture of that!


Tim, you should hold off on weights and watch Synchronized Swimming with Martin Short and Harry Shearer, swimming might be a better start for you lol.  It's classic (Spinal Tap related)
I believe I saw the original broadcast on SNL of that.

My wife was trying to get me into the water aerobics class.

 :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 19, 2023, 10:28:34 AM
Down to 285.  Just bee walking.  I'm going to talk to my doctor about light weights.  With my 2 hiatal hernias, I need to find out if I can.  No surgery for another 12 months the doc is hoping.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2023, 10:58:53 AM
Amazing, Joe. Simply amazing. Very proud of - and happy for - you.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on July 19, 2023, 11:09:11 AM
I'm alive!!!

So I spent an hour tonight at the gym. Basically did 3x15 of one exercise for each group of muscles. Nothing too heavy but no gimmies either. I really wanted to orient myself on some of the machines and the lay of the room.

I'm tied up the next two days, but I'll be back at it on Thursday with a targeted attack.

:tup Waiting for the Thursday update tomorrow! (or whenever it's Thursday for you)

Down to 285.  Just bee walking.  I'm going to talk to my doctor about light weights.  With my 2 hiatal hernias, I need to find out if I can.  No surgery for another 12 months the doc is hoping.

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 02:35:13 PM
Down to 285.  Just bee walking.  I'm going to talk to my doctor about light weights.  With my 2 hiatal hernias, I need to find out if I can.  No surgery for another 12 months the doc is hoping.

Incredible stuff mate.  Really well done.  Hopefully you can start the weight training.  It will do more wonders for you again.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 19, 2023, 02:36:16 PM
Down to 285.  Just bee walking.  I'm going to talk to my doctor about light weights.  With my 2 hiatal hernias, I need to find out if I can.  No surgery for another 12 months the doc is hoping.

Excellent work Joe!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
I'm alive!!!

So I spent an hour tonight at the gym. Basically did 3x15 of one exercise for each group of muscles. Nothing too heavy but no gimmies either. I really wanted to orient myself on some of the machines and the lay of the room.

I'm tied up the next two days, but I'll be back at it on Thursday with a targeted attack.

:tup Waiting for the Thursday update tomorrow! (or whenever it's Thursday for you)

Down to 285.  Just bee walking.  I'm going to talk to my doctor about light weights.  With my 2 hiatal hernias, I need to find out if I can.  No surgery for another 12 months the doc is hoping.

:metal

If we don't see him, he's probably getting grounded and not allowed on DTF by his wife for chatting up the water aerobics ladies!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2023, 03:06:00 PM
Ha!

We are going to the local YMCA, so there are some girls there as a few "gym dudes", but honestly, it's a bunch of regular folk.

I know I said I was tied up yesterday and today, but today is all set, so after I make my son dinner, I'll be hitting the gym!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Harmony on July 19, 2023, 03:07:24 PM
Question for the weight lifters here - I have a home gym and use adjustable dumbbells.  They are great for the most part except for some exercises that jump up in 5 pound increments per hand can be way too much for me all at once.  I'm looking at those clip on weights that can stair step me up in 2 lb increments instead.  Anyone ever try these?

A set of 4 decent ones is about $100 on Amazon which doesn't break the bank but I'd sure hate to pay for them and find out they suck ass.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:14:19 PM
Ha!

We are going to the local YMCA, so there are some girls there as a few "gym dudes", but honestly, it's a bunch of regular folk.

I know I said I was tied up yesterday and today, but today is all set, so after I make my son dinner, I'll be hitting the gym!!!!

(https://media.tenor.com/Iy_EkwtOPmIAAAAC/pumping-iron-arnold-schwarzenegger.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:15:14 PM
Question for the weight lifters here - I have a home gym and use adjustable dumbbells.  They are great for the most part except for some exercises that jump up in 5 pound increments per hand can be way too much for me all at once.  I'm looking at those clip on weights that can stair step me up in 2 lb increments instead.  Anyone ever try these?

A set of 4 decent ones is about $100 on Amazon which doesn't break the bank but I'd sure hate to pay for them and find out they suck ass.

Never used them so can't comment.  Can you go instore somewhere and check them out first?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Harmony on July 19, 2023, 04:26:28 PM
Question for the weight lifters here - I have a home gym and use adjustable dumbbells.  They are great for the most part except for some exercises that jump up in 5 pound increments per hand can be way too much for me all at once.  I'm looking at those clip on weights that can stair step me up in 2 lb increments instead.  Anyone ever try these?

A set of 4 decent ones is about $100 on Amazon which doesn't break the bank but I'd sure hate to pay for them and find out they suck ass.

Never used them so can't comment.  Can you go instore somewhere and check them out first?

Go....into.....a.....store?   :huh:

LoL - yeah, I should do that.  I just wondered if anyone had experience with them. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 06:22:20 PM
You still have those over there right?  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2023, 08:07:50 PM
You still have those over there right?  :lol

I’m not sure, honestly
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on July 19, 2023, 10:21:16 PM
Question for the weight lifters here - I have a home gym and use adjustable dumbbells.  They are great for the most part except for some exercises that jump up in 5 pound increments per hand can be way too much for me all at once.  I'm looking at those clip on weights that can stair step me up in 2 lb increments instead.  Anyone ever try these?

A set of 4 decent ones is about $100 on Amazon which doesn't break the bank but I'd sure hate to pay for them and find out they suck ass.

I use bowflex adjustables. They're a touch long,  but you get used to it. They go by 2.5 lbs increments from 5-25, then up by 5 from there. Sometimes i wish there were a 27.5, but beyond that 5lbs is always fine
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2023, 10:06:57 PM
Long time no visit to this thread.

Have held steady around 260lbs for quite awhile now. Have just not had the motivation especially on dieting, which is always the key for me.

A little while back had a kick in the ass (specifics of which will be for another thread at some point), but it has finally led to some results, which is huge in hopefully keeping me in check going forward.

On July 24 I weighed in at 261.3. It's been steadily downhill since then and August 5 I weighed in at 253.1.

Exercise helps for sure, every day I'm either doing some work outside, playing hockey, I started playing volleyball again, and even started using my home workout equipment again.

But the crux for me is always dieting. Today I had a bowl of cereal, a cupcake, and my single portion of the usual Hello Fresh for dinner. Honest to god it's likely the least I've had to eat in a day since I lost 70lbs 10+ years ago. Some days are better than others, but every time I think I might want to eat I make sure I just engage myself in some other activity or workout and that's been working great.

Tomorrow will be a big test, my usual Sunday evening ritual is getting high and playing Overwatch with friends. Not sure yet if I'm going to cut out getting high or if I try to climb that massive mountain of NOT losing my self control when I do get high.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 04:26:40 AM
That post certainly took a turn I was not expecting.  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 06, 2023, 04:41:11 AM
I got on the stationary bike yesterday.  According to my heart-rate monitor app, it's the first time I've worked out in 53 weeks.   :blush

Weighed in this morning and I'm pleasantly surprised to be under 190lbs.  I wasn't going to be surprised if I was north of 200, but amazingly I've managed my diet well enough to have lost a bout 8lbs in the past 6 months (as I was on the verge of tipping over 200).

I figure if I watch a video of Goggins every morning, that'll get my ass in gear.   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on August 06, 2023, 05:19:14 AM
That post certainly took a turn I was not expecting.  :lol

:lol

It is kinda true though, when I get a board game weekend with friends and we're getting drunk a bit it's difficult to not overeat.

Chad - :metal Sounds good, you've got to keep at it.

I'll post my thoughts on my half-marathon race later when I'm less dead. Didn't get my goal, but now there's nowhere to go but up, and it was an interesting experience for sure.

Pic after the race (https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/08/f45eba86ecb1f74c8ba3e4766e856ed5.jpg)

Participation/finisher medal (https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/08/b75b5ccf4b641bd883e5ce2b3cc438e3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on August 06, 2023, 06:18:28 AM
That post certainly took a turn I was not expecting.  :lol

I know, right. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on August 06, 2023, 09:11:27 AM
I'll post my thoughts on my half-marathon race later when I'm less dead.

Rambling below as I'm still tired and impressed with the sheer scope of the event.

Man, official races are weird. While I know it's meant to be fun and enjoyable (and it was), all the months I was training for this, the 6th of August was like a looming deadline, or a exam day - and as the day approached, I grew progressively more nervous. It didn't help that since I started training in earnest in March, the work also got more and more intense and peaked in June/July to the point I was sleeping 5-6 hours a day and my thoughts were either about work, or about the upcoming race. :lol

When this last week rolled in, I knew I probably wouldn't reach my goal—in fact, I was in a far better form ~2 months ago I think. But I thought even if I couldn't do 5:40/km, I could safely do 6:00/km, as that was no problem at all during my training runs. But there was this last week at work, then I travelled on Saturday and ended up tossing and turning all night, too nervous to sleep.

I officially ended up with 6:21/km and 2:13:46. :lol

My race plan was to ease into 5:30-5:40 pace after the first 5km and that went alright, but the sun showed up during the second kilometer and over the next 10k the weather grew progressively hotter and humid as the race route pretty much follows along the biggest river in the city. The 11k-16k was going to be a particularly vicious part and I knew it, but by that point I was losing steam and at ~14.5km my brain went "hey dude, you've been abusing us for the past six months so how about we just walk for a few minutes" and I couldn't find any counter-argument. lol

After that I knew I wasn't getting anywhere near good time so I went extra slow and easy to save face and smile during the last 1-1.5km, and to be honest I'm not sure if I could've went any faster without stopping anyway. I was thrilled to cross the finish line anyway, that feeling alone was worth it.

What was great:
- I've never ran in such crowds before. I think there were at least 6k people participating. The feeling of running in the crowd of people who share that particular hobby with you is amazing.
- There was a lot of support along the route, lots of people cheering us up, putting up funny signs (there was a guy with a sign "run faster, the prosecco is cooling in the fridge" and later there was a guy with a sign "hurry up! the prosecco is getting warm" which gave me a good laugh), lots of kids putting their hands for you to high five (side five? how's it called when the hand is to the side instead of up?). I was tired at the end but I tried to make sure I've got all kids who wanted to side five. :lol
- The volunteers were amazing
- I'd like to believe I've gained some experience from this but that remains to be seen :)
- The medal is pretty

What wasn't great:
- My performance :lol
- 25°C and humidity

My next (and I think final) race for this season is another half-marathon in my city in two weeks. I don't think I'll be able to improve much in terms of running, but now that I'm on vacation, I'll just try to approach it well-rested, get enough sleep, and start even slower. While my goal to run a 21.1k in less (fewer?) than two hours remains, I think for now I'll settle on running the full distance without walking/stopping. I think I may start even slower and aim for 6:06/km during the first 10k with the pacemakers depending on how I feel. Unfortunately, this race is also in August and it also follows the biggest river in our city.

Still, that was quite something.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Jamesman42 on August 06, 2023, 09:27:27 AM
I've never been in good enough shape for a marathon. Good for you man.


I have been jogging in place this week, before work. Upwards of 10 minutes since I am so out of shape. I am trying to set a weekly goal of a dumbbell circuit 2 times a week and jogging in place a 2-3 times a week. Even if it isn't much, it's starting somewhere.

In addition, I am trying to get my portions and when I eat under control. Once I feel that is in a good spot, I will focus on calories.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 05:12:41 PM
I got on the stationary bike yesterday.  According to my heart-rate monitor app, it's the first time I've worked out in 53 weeks.   :blush

Weighed in this morning and I'm pleasantly surprised to be under 190lbs.  I wasn't going to be surprised if I was north of 200, but amazingly I've managed my diet well enough to have lost a bout 8lbs in the past 6 months (as I was on the verge of tipping over 200).

I figure if I watch a video of Goggins every morning, that'll get my ass in gear.   :lol

Absolutely, guy is a fucking beast.

Every time I watch one of his videos I instantly think to myself, "Why the fuck aren't I out there running right now!"  Thought that last night even though I had done 15km that morning haha!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 05:28:06 PM
I'll post my thoughts on my half-marathon race later when I'm less dead.

Rambling below as I'm still tired and impressed with the sheer scope of the event.

Man, official races are weird. While I know it's meant to be fun and enjoyable (and it was), all the months I was training for this, the 6th of August was like a looming deadline, or a exam day - and as the day approached, I grew progressively more nervous. It didn't help that since I started training in earnest in March, the work also got more and more intense and peaked in June/July to the point I was sleeping 5-6 hours a day and my thoughts were either about work, or about the upcoming race. :lol

When this last week rolled in, I knew I probably wouldn't reach my goal—in fact, I was in a far better form ~2 months ago I think. But I thought even if I couldn't do 5:40/km, I could safely do 6:00/km, as that was no problem at all during my training runs. But there was this last week at work, then I travelled on Saturday and ended up tossing and turning all night, too nervous to sleep.

I officially ended up with 6:21/km and 2:13:46. :lol

My race plan was to ease into 5:30-5:40 pace after the first 5km and that went alright, but the sun showed up during the second kilometer and over the next 10k the weather grew progressively hotter and humid as the race route pretty much follows along the biggest river in the city. The 11k-16k was going to be a particularly vicious part and I knew it, but by that point I was losing steam and at ~14.5km my brain went "hey dude, you've been abusing us for the past six months so how about we just walk for a few minutes" and I couldn't find any counter-argument. lol

After that I knew I wasn't getting anywhere near good time so I went extra slow and easy to save face and smile during the last 1-1.5km, and to be honest I'm not sure if I could've went any faster without stopping anyway. I was thrilled to cross the finish line anyway, that feeling alone was worth it.

What was great:
- I've never ran in such crowds before. I think there were at least 6k people participating. The feeling of running in the crowd of people who share that particular hobby with you is amazing.
- There was a lot of support along the route, lots of people cheering us up, putting up funny signs (there was a guy with a sign "run faster, the prosecco is cooling in the fridge" and later there was a guy with a sign "hurry up! the prosecco is getting warm" which gave me a good laugh), lots of kids putting their hands for you to high five (side five? how's it called when the hand is to the side instead of up?). I was tired at the end but I tried to make sure I've got all kids who wanted to side five. :lol
- The volunteers were amazing
- I'd like to believe I've gained some experience from this but that remains to be seen :)
- The medal is pretty

What wasn't great:
- My performance :lol
- 25°C and humidity

My next (and I think final) race for this season is another half-marathon in my city in two weeks. I don't think I'll be able to improve much in terms of running, but now that I'm on vacation, I'll just try to approach it well-rested, get enough sleep, and start even slower. While my goal to run a 21.1k in less (fewer?) than two hours remains, I think for now I'll settle on running the full distance without walking/stopping. I think I may start even slower and aim for 6:06/km during the first 10k with the pacemakers depending on how I feel. Unfortunately, this race is also in August and it also follows the biggest river in our city.

Still, that was quite something.

Nice read Ruslan.  Looking at your times, I don't think you started all that slow at all.  I'm not sure if you're whole training program is logged in your Strava runs but I was going to suggest some more longer distance runs but you've done a few 15km's over time.  I found the 21km distance got easier the more I pushed between a 15-20km distance or even a bit over.  I need to start pushing to 20-25km but these days a 15km doesn't nearly feel as long as it used to.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 06, 2023, 05:47:42 PM
That was indeed a nice read Ruslan. Good luck in in 2 weeks!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on August 06, 2023, 05:51:34 PM
Participation/finisher medal (https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/08/b75b5ccf4b641bd883e5ce2b3cc438e3.jpg)

Who designed this, MC Escher?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 05:59:16 PM
Participation/finisher medal (https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/08/b75b5ccf4b641bd883e5ce2b3cc438e3.jpg)

Who designed this, MC Escher?

 :lol

Wait....why isn't your ass in the gym?  Hope you're still going.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on August 06, 2023, 06:16:24 PM
Wait....why isn't your ass in the gym?  Hope you're still going.

Yup.

Tomorrow starts my 4th week. I've been going Mon-Thurs for an hour. Been doing some free weights, but the machines give me more stability. I can't believe how much strength I've lost in the last ten years. I also have an impingement in my right shoulder that makes stability even more of a challenge.

I saw a doctor on Thursday and she said to add some cardio, so on Friday morning while my wife was in a zumba class, I did the treadmill. (It was her birthday and we both took the day off).

Not an earth shattering pace or distance, but I worked up a sweat for over an hour. Plus, I basically watched an entire Theocracy concert on youtube right on the treadmill's screen..

(https://i.imgur.com/BVHjkbB.jpg)
 :metal



So I'll be adding some treadmill to my visits this week.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 06, 2023, 06:25:55 PM
I'm going back after vacation. I've lost so much muscle mass with the weight loss so I'm working on high reps, low weight to tone.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 06:44:24 PM
Wait....why isn't your ass in the gym?  Hope you're still going.

Yup.

Tomorrow starts my 4th week. I've been going Mon-Thurs for an hour. Been doing some free weights, but the machines give me more stability. I can't believe how much strength I've lost in the last ten years. I also have an impingement in my right shoulder that makes stability even more of a challenge.

I saw a doctor on Thursday and she said to add some cardio, so on Friday morning while my wife was in a zumba class, I did the treadmill. (It was her birthday and we both took the day off).

Not an earth shattering pace or distance, but I worked up a sweat for over an hour. Plus, I basically watched an entire Theocracy concert on youtube right on the treadmill's screen..

(https://i.imgur.com/BVHjkbB.jpg)
 :metal



So I'll be adding some treadmill to my visits this week.

 :lol :metal

That speed at a little incline is a nice workout mate, especially for an hour, that's good stuff.

I'd always recommend just what you are doing and go for more assisted machines over free weights until you get more comfortable and get some stability back.  Sucks about your shoulder too but just do what you can and work around it.  It is insane how quick your strength goes over a short amount of time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 06:46:12 PM
I'm going back after vacation. I've lost so much muscle mass with the weight loss so I'm working on high reps, low weight to tone.

I love high rep sets, so beneficial.  You may have lost a little muscle mate but the positives far outweigh that.  Over time the more weights you do combined with keeping your protein high, things should stabilise.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 06, 2023, 06:59:40 PM
Oh I know. I want to keep the momentum going. I was big into weights in my mid to late 20's. I weight 240. 19" biceps,  neck and calves. I was solid as a rock. Not defined but I was a bull.

Now I just want to keep trim and tone.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on August 06, 2023, 07:01:06 PM
I'd always recommend just what you are doing and go for more assisted machines over free weights until you get more comfortable and get some stability back.  Sucks about your shoulder too but just do what you can and work around it.  It is insane how quick your strength goes over a short amount of time.

There's a number of exercises that I can use free weights for, so I try and use them when I can.


I used to regularly lift in my basement, but for the last 10 years at least, my job was very physical every day, so I really didn't have the drive or energy really to come home and work out. A year and a half ago, I switched to a much less physically demanding job so...now's a good time as any to start working my way back.

Last week, I did try and increase my weight, even if it meant less reps. But I know reps is where it's at, but just trying to push the weight a little here and there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 06, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
It's good to change routines to ahock the muscles. The sane repetition is not good to build muscle. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 07:09:02 PM
I'd always recommend just what you are doing and go for more assisted machines over free weights until you get more comfortable and get some stability back.  Sucks about your shoulder too but just do what you can and work around it.  It is insane how quick your strength goes over a short amount of time.

There's a number of exercises that I can use free weights for, so I try and use them when I can.


I used to regularly lift in my basement, but for the last 10 years at least, my job was very physical every day, so I really didn't have the drive or energy really to come home and work out. A year and a half ago, I switched to a much less physically demanding job so...now's a good time as any to start working my way back.

Last week, I did try and increase my weight, even if it meant less reps. But I know reps is where it's at, but just trying to push the weight a little here and there.

High reps is awesome and has its place but increasing the weight and trying to push more for strength is also vital.  I usually try and combined the two. 

I'll add high rep sets, drop sets, rest pause sets, and low rep higher weight sets.  Basically whatever you can do fatigue the muscle, push and get stronger is key.

With higher weights, people normally are more prone to injury as they'll try and lift more than they probably should and their form goes out the window, leading to injuries.  That's where the higher reps you can get similar results just with less compromise on form.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: TAC on August 06, 2023, 07:11:20 PM
Believe me, my increase in weight was....modest. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2023, 11:39:18 PM
Believe me, my increase in weight was....modest. :lol

An increase is an increase.  Don't discount yourself mate, it takes time.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 07, 2023, 05:15:16 AM
I can't believe how much strength I've lost in the last ten years.

Shit... I can't believe how much I've lost of the past 1 year.  I did an 8-minute Tabata-style bodyweight workout yesterday before getting on the bike - just pushups, burpees, squats, and mountain climbers.  And now I'm pretty fucking achy.  I used to be able to hammer out 50 pushups straight; yesterday, I barely got to 30 in total.

One step at a time though.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 07, 2023, 02:37:47 PM
I can't believe how much strength I've lost in the last ten years.

Shit... I can't believe how much I've lost of the past 1 year.  I did an 8-minute Tabata-style bodyweight workout yesterday before getting on the bike - just pushups, burpees, squats, and mountain climbers.  And now I'm pretty fucking achy.  I used to be able to hammer out 50 pushups straight; yesterday, I barely got to 30 in total.

One step at a time though.

At least you're getting back into it mate.  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Harmony on August 17, 2023, 04:50:17 PM
So it was time to switch up my lifting routine and I decided to try an exercise band routine for my full body set.  It looked pretty doable and we have bands of all colors/strengths.  How hard could it be, right?

Guys, I can barely walk today.  Or lift my arms.  Going up stairs is like watching a Tim Conway Oldest Man skit.  Holy shit who would've thought bands would give me a much harder workout than my dumbbells? 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2023, 04:58:06 PM
It's probably not because it's 'harder' than dumbbells, it's probably because it's something totally new to you and your body. Any change in routine like that will see the body struggling to adjust.  You probably just got used to your normal routine and needed the change up.  I'm not trying to underplay the bands though, I've heard you can get some good workouts out of them.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 17, 2023, 07:12:59 PM
Bands will bring lots of smaller stabilizing tendons into the exercise. These likely never get used, or at least underused, with dumbbells. It would be worse if you went from only barbells to bands. You'd be incapacitated lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on August 20, 2023, 03:55:34 AM
My next (and I think final) race for this season is another half-marathon in my city in two weeks. I don't think I'll be able to improve much in terms of running, but now that I'm on vacation, I'll just try to approach it well-rested, get enough sleep, and start even slower. While my goal to run a 21.1k in less (fewer?) than two hours remains, I think for now I'll settle on running the full distance without walking/stopping. I think I may start even slower and aim for 6:06/km during the first 10k with the pacemakers depending on how I feel. Unfortunately, this race is also in August and it also follows the biggest river in our city.

And done. My only goal today was not to resort to walking and I ran the whole thing at easy pace. No post on Strava as GPS doesn't quite work in the center of Moscow (it shows I ran 7,9km). :lol

Aimed for 6:06/km and just kept it for the whole distance and honestly I'm pretty happy with this. I had a blast during the run, much more fun than two weeks ago.
 
Official result:

(https://s1.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2023/08/6550a31c413498f47c0528d52a4b985b.png)

Next year I'll probably try for that under 2 hours goal.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2023, 04:24:01 AM
Nice one mate!  :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Harmony on August 21, 2023, 05:02:17 PM
Bands will bring lots of smaller stabilizing tendons into the exercise. These likely never get used, or at least underused, with dumbbells. It would be worse if you went from only barbells to bands. You'd be incapacitated lol

I pretty much was for about 48 hours.  And thanks for this - that makes a lot of sense and now I'm going to incorporate more bands into my workouts for this very reason.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on September 25, 2023, 12:51:41 PM
Super long update incoming......




Back in March, as XC ski season was winding down, I decided to prioritize strength training more. Over the last several years I was so focused on cardio due to my favorite hobby being cycling, that my strength was really starting to suffer. Part of my motivation was esthetics, I will confess, but the primary motivation was to prevent muscle loss as I ventured into my 40s this year. I've done strength training for about 25 years, so I have enough knowledge that I could have just built a program. However, I figured it would be easier to adhere to if I just bought a stock program from someone so I could just look at the day's workout and be off to it. Before I get into the 2 programs I've done (well, in progress on the 2nd one), I'll explain the periodization required because of my schedule.

Shoulder season (i.e. between XC ski season and MTB/Road bike season): 4 day per week strength session; 1 or 2 day per week cardio - usually just my commutes to work on the bicycle

Summer season: 3 day per week strength; 2 or 3 day per week cardio - including my commute days

The reduction in cycling was tough at first, but I enjoy exercising in general. It wasn't long before I started getting really excited about the lifting sessions. I'm sure my DTF Strava connections have noticed the significant reduction in my cycling. I haven't even gone for a single 100km+ ride this season, and I usually knock off at least one per month.


The first program I tried was from a Canadian YouTube influencer named Jeff Nippard. I like his YouTube channel because he's one of the influencers in the "fitness science" space, so it's a lot more informative. It was really his videos that came to me from the Algorithm Overlord that got me the initial motivation. I bought his high frequency total body program which came with a tracking spreadsheet (a nice touch since I'm an Excel super user....I've already greatly enhanced the version he sent me so I can recycle it), and a great PDF explaining the science behind how the program was developed. There's a list of all the exercises with links to youtube videos showing how to do them. I didn't need the videos, but still nice to have. He also included a list of exercises that can be subbed in if you don't have the necessary equipment. That was a great resource considering I have a home gym setup. It's a nicely equipped home gym, but a home gym nevertheless

I did 1 full 10 week program of  4x per week, and then followed up with a full 3x as cycling season kicked off. I basically just modified the 4x program to remove one of the leg intensive days, then scattered some of the more important exercises from that day to the other 3 days. It ended up being about 85% of the 4x program. The program was mix of body building and power lifting phases.

At the same time, I also decided to tighten my nutrition a little. I didn't need to do much since I already eat very healthy, but I did need to cut back on peanut butter and nutella snacking. We have both on hand for the kids, and I would find myself shoving spoonful after spoonful of it down my gullet right before bed. Just cutting that and starting the program had immediate results. I was able to shed about 6lbs of overall weight, but I'm leaner and stronger so it was probably a 10lb fat loss and 5lb muscle gain or something like that (note: numbers completely made up).

Went on vacation for 2 weeks after the end of the 2nd round of the program (the 3x), crashed my bike a bunch of times in the mountains, meaning I couldn't lift for a good 5 or 6 weeks until the pain in my hips were gone.

Once I was able to do squats and deadlifts again, I decided to switch up the program. I had already purchased Jeff Cavaliere's (Athlean X) Total Beast program prior to vacation. I wanted to do something different that wasn't so much on the body building side. I prefer more functional fitness than just nice looking muscles. I'm currently 4 weeks in, and it's been good. In some ways it's harder than the Jeff Nippard program in that there's cardio lifting elements included (super sets, ladders, etc.). The Nippard program went so far as to prescribe only walking for cardio, which I clearly did not follow lol. I've also found that I'm more sore after the sessions than I was in the 3 or 4x program from Nippard. Other than some of the big lifts (squats, dead, bench), there isn't nearly as much overlap as I thought there would be. I'm looking forward to seeing what my results look like when I finish the program.

My only concern, as I've shifted towards more strength training, is whether or not my XC skiing will suffer. I haven't noticed a big drop in my cycling, however, I haven't been on my road bike much this year to test that out. The trail bike is my weapon of choice, and it's been horribly hot and dry this year. The mtb trails have been fantastic. XC skiing is far more demanding on the heart and lungs, so I'm curious if increased strength in my shoulders, arms, back, and legs will offset any loss of cardio.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2023, 01:55:17 PM
Lots to chew on there Rich.  I'll share some replies later today.......I have to get up now for a run, even though my legs feel broken with no days off.  :lol

The suffering of the strength sessions because of the cardiovascular choice love is all too real.  I definitely feel you there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2023, 05:25:28 AM
I've made it no secret I am a big fan of A-X, and I did follow a Nippard for quite a while too - bought one of his books, iirc.  Lots of great advice from him.  I own quite a few of the A-X programs, including the entire NXT series - but never worked out to any of them since I was paying for them in the time I was off the bandwagon.  Funny enough, I went to cancel them, but I only had one more payment/program to make, and then I get to keep the entire thing ... so I just let it run it's course.  It's pretty cool now that he has a monthly subscription - something like $15/mo and you get access to ALL of his programs.  That's a pretty sweet deal, considering each of his programs were around $30 price tag.

Rich ... I really got a ton of benefit out of Max Size and Max Shred ... maybe that's something you want to look at?  The Max Shred has a lot of HIIT.  Usually around US Thanksgiving or Christmas I've seen him offer them as in a buy 1, get 1 free (maybe 1/2 off??) promo.

My re-start of exercising back in August was a false-start - don't really want to get into the why's of that.  But, I've gotten on the bike again this week (along with mrs.jingle getting on the treadmill) to try and wean myself back in to things.  I'm hoping I can get myself into a space where I start lifting again in a couple of months.  We'll see how it goes. 
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: ReaperKK on September 28, 2023, 06:00:40 AM
How long are you on the bike for jingle?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2023, 06:06:25 AM
45-60 minutes.  Depends on what we're watching on TV.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2023, 06:07:05 PM
Going back to Rich's post, I to am one that has really found it difficult to balance the cardio and strength training.  I usually go mostly by feel though.  Once I start to feel fatigue and a slight loss in strength in the gym, I know it's time to put the energy back into the weights more.  Currently I'm trying to put as much effort into each, almost hybrid training I guess? 

I've heard the name Jeff Nippard but never checked him out so will have to youtube him.  I confess though.....I've never followed a program.  I guess my gym sessions have also followed a bodybuilding approach with focusing on a different muscle group each time and just know the exercise and go from there and try and increase the strength and work on progressive overload.  My sessions are usually based like;

Chest - Press movements, pushups, dips and triceps
Back - Rowing movements, pullups, bieps
Legs - Deadlifts, leg press, some form of squat and lunges
Shoulders/Chest - Press movements, some isolation work, pushups, dips, some arms thrown in.

A few abs most days too.  That's it, a lot of compound movements and supersets with arms and whatnot.

I'm interested to hear your final thoughts on both programs and what you'll think you'll do to try and balance everything in the future.



At the same time, I also decided to tighten my nutrition a little. I didn't need to do much since I already eat very healthy, but I did need to cut back on peanut butter and nutella snacking. We have both on hand for the kids, and I would find myself shoving spoonful after spoonful of it down my gullet right before bed. Just cutting that and starting the program had immediate results. I was able to shed about 6lbs of overall weight, but I'm leaner and stronger so it was probably a 10lb fat loss and 5lb muscle gain or something like that (note: numbers completely made up).

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does this.  Except I don't have kids, I buy it for myself!  It's incredible how a few spoonfuls equates to hundreds of calories.  It's so hard not to grab a spoon and have a few scoops before going to bed.  I do this with ice cream too........I'm trying to cut that back though and just keep it for my oats and weekends splurges.  Are you following any numbers in regards to your nutrition? 

For me though, it's daily runs but at the moment it's more of the mental thing.  it's like a ritual to go out in the morning for a run to get ready for my day.  I'm weight training 5-6 days a week along with 60-80km of running.  It's hard going and tricky to balance correctly.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2023, 09:48:50 PM
Hey Rich, in answer to your Strava question, not quite relocating.  I'll explain more here later when I'm home.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2023, 05:32:10 PM
Hey Rich, in answer to your Strava question, not quite relocating.  I'll explain more here later when I'm home.

Going back to this for Rich;

In my job for the past many years I've worked across a few centres.  Where I really got into running was at this one particular suburb where one of the pools are.  I worked there most of my time and operated the pool myself each morning for the opens.  I used to get there super early around 4:30am, do all the cleaning and then go for a run, head back, shower and get ready then open to the public at 7am.  It became my little habit and routine for the last few years in the summer.  Flat track, nice loop which can be 5-6km or can easily make it a 10km+ course.

Anyway, for a variety of reasons and changes in the workplace, staffing mainly has been the biggest issue and the Organisation decided a few weeks back the only way to operate the venue practically this summer (ie. me not working 80 hours a week) was to lease it out to an external company for the summer.  So, that happened a couple of weeks back and basically had to clean my office out and move all my stuff out.  I'm down to one pool now which I'm actually okay with for the moment.  For once I'm starting to work hours and the workload is more in line with my pay rate so looking at all things positive.

So, basically that's the story.  Could of course go and run there anytime but it was such a part of me and my routine, I think a clean break is best for now.  Not running there is making me hit more elevation in other areas which is probably a good thing for my training.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 07, 2023, 06:45:32 AM
Well, hopefully the change works out for you Kade. Being able to get your workouts done in a manner that works nicely with your work schedule is A-plus for this guy.

I'm mulling a change in employment which would relocate me to another tower downtown. You'd be amazed how much weight I put into cycling facilities when deciding whether to take a job. I'm fortunate in my current location to have access to a secure underground bike parking area, locker rooms with showers and free towels (and all necessary grooming products), free day use lockers, or long-term rental lockers which I pay for so I can keep my entire work wardrobe at the tower. There's also a drop off dry cleaning service right beside the lockers. There's a few other towers downtown that have these type of facilities, but not many. I don't think I'd even consider a position if I couldn't cycle to work. Now that I'm prioritizing my strength training the morning commute is just about all the cardio I'm getting.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2023, 05:08:44 PM
Well, hopefully the change works out for you Kade. Being able to get your workouts done in a manner that works nicely with your work schedule is A-plus for this guy.

I'm mulling a change in employment which would relocate me to another tower downtown. You'd be amazed how much weight I put into cycling facilities when deciding whether to take a job. I'm fortunate in my current location to have access to a secure underground bike parking area, locker rooms with showers and free towels (and all necessary grooming products), free day use lockers, or long-term rental lockers which I pay for so I can keep my entire work wardrobe at the tower. There's also a drop off dry cleaning service right beside the lockers. There's a few other towers downtown that have these type of facilities, but not many. I don't think I'd even consider a position if I couldn't cycle to work. Now that I'm prioritizing my strength training the morning commute is just about all the cardio I'm getting.

Sounds like a great setup Rich.  And no, I'm learning through experience that sorting a job that fits to your fitness routine is critical and is becoming that way for me.  While I'm running more around home and other areas which aren't as nice in flat terrain, the reduced workload means getting up slightly later, not rushing my run and then being able to leave work at 4pm to go and hit the weights.  Selfishly, my exercise routine and well being is priorty now.  Took me a while but I've figured it out so I don't blame you weighing up the logistics behind everything else around the actual job.  Plus, if both of us have the ability to make those decisions that best suit us, then that's an A+ just like you said.

I think with your potential situation, you'd need to weigh up, even write down pros and cons and make sure benefits of the work relocation outweigh the setup you have for your biking.  If it doesn't, I wouldn't feel silly staying where you are.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on November 09, 2023, 10:19:37 AM
Sounds like a great setup Rich.  And no, I'm learning through experience that sorting a job that fits to your fitness routine is critical and is becoming that way for me.  While I'm running more around home and other areas which aren't as nice in flat terrain, the reduced workload means getting up slightly later, not rushing my run and then being able to leave work at 4pm to go and hit the weights.  Selfishly, my exercise routine and well being is priorty now.  Took me a while but I've figured it out so I don't blame you weighing up the logistics behind everything else around the actual job.  Plus, if both of us have the ability to make those decisions that best suit us, then that's an A+ just like you said.

I think with your potential situation, you'd need to weigh up, even write down pros and cons and make sure benefits of the work relocation outweigh the setup you have for your biking.  If it doesn't, I wouldn't feel silly staying where you are.

While I'm somewhat in the same position, this is not selfish, ideally that's how it should be. I refused to work a couple of weekends overtime this year because I needed to do a long run for the half-marathon prep. Work comes and goes—and of course you should find some compromises, you've got to get money from somewhere—but overall your/our well-being should be a priority as far as I'm concerned.

Finally bought a running watch as I really need to work on the pace consistency and train in proper pulse zones for the longer runs this upcoming season (starting pretty much now). I'm not that old but I still had quite a difficult time setting it all up. :lol I thought I was set, went for a short test run this morning and found out it showed everything in miles instead of kilometers. :lol Had to even stop for a couple of minutes and figure out how to change it.

I should probably also do some cross-training until I can go cycling in spring again—any advice from you guys? Looking at swimming in the pool/cycling in the gym once or twice a week, but no idea where to begin regarding exercise length/how hard to go. Perhaps some light strength training while I'm at it? I could go read some guides but like Tim, I've got DTF for that.

Also not really related but I'm participating in a table tennis tournament at work tomorrow. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: SchecterShredder on November 09, 2023, 12:06:57 PM
Ideally, you'd aim to do activities in your off season that use different muscles than your primary sport with the goal of preventing overuse injuries. If you're looking for cardio replacement, then swimming and cycling are good options. Cycling will engage some of the same muscles as running, but it's far less quad intensive. Strength training is always a good idea.

As for length/intensity.... well, that depends on your goals. As they say, practice how you want to play.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2023, 12:50:58 PM
I think strength training is almost a must Ruslan.  I know it's not for everyone buy it can work and coincide with running really well.  Building more strength in your legs is always going to be a benefit too. 

Swimming is a different beast and good work for the upper body and also works your cardiovascular system differently.  Start off slow and not too much volume.

I'm not really a biking guy at all but imagine it would be good for recovery after runs?
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on January 08, 2024, 04:50:59 AM
Update after my previous post: signed up to the gym that opened right before the New Year ~10 minutes away from my home using the holidays/New Year discount which is apparently a thing in every gym ever.  Went for an introductory training session today where they showed me how to use some of the equipment. I'll probably sign up for some group training to see how the rest of the stuff works (there's a lot of it)—they've got a group training schedule for the different types of muscles.

Strength training for legs/hips - really nice (duh). Strength training for the upper body - sucks because I've never really trained it :lol will have to slowly build it up. We'll see how the work goes but my current plan is to go twice a week.

Tried running on treadmill and that sucks big time :lol Maybe I'm just not used to it but I can't imagine doing it unless it's absolutely freezing outside or unless it's raining heavily. I'm too used to run around the city and basically the most entertaining part is to see what's around me. None of that on the treadmill.

Didn't get to try any cycling equipment but planning to hit it this Sunday and use it to recover after longer runs.

Really fun experience overall. Running-wise, slowly building my base back (also it seems like the cold will finally let up tomorrow, it was ridiculously cold here last week) and excited for the gym now. Next half-marathon is on April 29th. The goal is still to run it out of 2 hours. We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 08, 2024, 05:48:04 PM
Tried running on treadmill and that sucks big time :lol Maybe I'm just not used to it but I can't imagine doing it unless it's absolutely freezing outside or unless it's raining heavily. I'm too used to run around the city and basically the most entertaining part is to see what's around me. None of that on the treadmill.

Treadmill running sucks, plain and simple, especially when your accustomed to running outside. I run a couple days a week and unless it's just ice covered roads I'll run in 10 degrees before I run on the treadmill. But I do like a good 45 stair master workout. That'll get the heart pumping and sweat dripping.

 


I have three more weeks to go in this family 'weight loss' challenge that we started back in october. I'm in the lead and looking like I'm gonna win the $350 that's at stake. Down 19lbs for a 9.85% percentage of loss at this point. I'm 1lb away from my goal of dropping 20lbs. It's the same 20lbs that I've lost and gained back about four or five times now here after I entered my 40's. I eat well and stay motivated during these little competitions and get my weight down to around 165-170 (I'm 5'-6") Then, fall off the wagon so to speak and put the 20lbs back on over a year or two. I started this competition at 193.9....so, I was looking to get back down to 173ish...last weeks weigh in I was at 174.4 so I'll probably end up right at 170 again.

Even with playing anywhere from 2-4 ice hockey games on Sunday/Monday nights....and running a day or two during the week....my body has just changed so much now where that exercise doesn't really stave off the poor eating choices any longer. It hasn't for some time. I turn 48 at the end of the month on the 26th (last day of the competition) and I guess I just really need to make an adjustment on what I'm eating moving forward and that really sucks because well....all the food that isn't good for you tastes really good!!!  :lol

Anyway, gotta hammer out these next couple weeks and stay in the lead. My bro in law decided to hit it hard on the last weigh in and now he's around the 4% mark...but he has a LOT of weight to lose so I could see him making a charge here at the end if he really goes for it.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2024, 06:12:19 PM
Just stepped on a scale today, and I'm over 200lbs for the first time in about 8 years.  Gotta find the motivation to change.  I'm starting with my eating habits first.  If/when I can get those under control, then I'll work my way back into exercising.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2024, 06:14:47 PM
Update after my previous post: signed up to the gym that opened right before the New Year ~10 minutes away from my home using the holidays/New Year discount which is apparently a thing in every gym ever.  Went for an introductory training session today where they showed me how to use some of the equipment. I'll probably sign up for some group training to see how the rest of the stuff works (there's a lot of it)—they've got a group training schedule for the different types of muscles.

Strength training for legs/hips - really nice (duh). Strength training for the upper body - sucks because I've never really trained it :lol will have to slowly build it up. We'll see how the work goes but my current plan is to go twice a week.

Tried running on treadmill and that sucks big time :lol Maybe I'm just not used to it but I can't imagine doing it unless it's absolutely freezing outside or unless it's raining heavily. I'm too used to run around the city and basically the most entertaining part is to see what's around me. None of that on the treadmill.

Didn't get to try any cycling equipment but planning to hit it this Sunday and use it to recover after longer runs.

Really fun experience overall. Running-wise, slowly building my base back (also it seems like the cold will finally let up tomorrow, it was ridiculously cold here last week) and excited for the gym now. Next half-marathon is on April 29th. The goal is still to run it out of 2 hours. We'll see how it goes.

ummm......wut??  :lol

Good stuff though mate.  For you, especially since you're just a beginner with the strength stuff, you really just need to focus on compound movements and build them up from there.  Chest press (dumbbell or barbell), some rows and pulldowns, some military presses and if you can, basic push ups and pull ups.  Don't get too weighed down with all the fancy shit, build a base and try and work on progressive overload.  For legs, some squats and lunges is fine.  Deadlifts once you get a little more into it also.  You can also throw some arm in work and core work in there aswell to break it up.

I honestly don't know how the fuck you are running outside in those temps, I find it incredible.  Running on the treadmill I don't mind, but it's definitely a different beast.  I think you either like it or you don't.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2024, 06:16:08 PM
Tried running on treadmill and that sucks big time :lol Maybe I'm just not used to it but I can't imagine doing it unless it's absolutely freezing outside or unless it's raining heavily. I'm too used to run around the city and basically the most entertaining part is to see what's around me. None of that on the treadmill.

Treadmill running sucks, plain and simple, especially when your accustomed to running outside. I run a couple days a week and unless it's just ice covered roads I'll run in 10 degrees before I run on the treadmill. But I do like a good 45 stair master workout. That'll get the heart pumping and sweat dripping.

 


I have three more weeks to go in this family 'weight loss' challenge that we started back in october. I'm in the lead and looking like I'm gonna win the $350 that's at stake. Down 19lbs for a 9.85% percentage of loss at this point. I'm 1lb away from my goal of dropping 20lbs. It's the same 20lbs that I've lost and gained back about four or five times now here after I entered my 40's. I eat well and stay motivated during these little competitions and get my weight down to around 165-170 (I'm 5'-6") Then, fall off the wagon so to speak and put the 20lbs back on over a year or two. I started this competition at 193.9....so, I was looking to get back down to 173ish...last weeks weigh in I was at 174.4 so I'll probably end up right at 170 again.

Even with playing anywhere from 2-4 ice hockey games on Sunday/Monday nights....and running a day or two during the week....my body has just changed so much now where that exercise doesn't really stave off the poor eating choices any longer. It hasn't for some time. I turn 48 at the end of the month on the 26th (last day of the competition) and I guess I just really need to make an adjustment on what I'm eating moving forward and that really sucks because well....all the food that isn't good for you tastes really good!!!  :lol

Anyway, gotta hammer out these next couple weeks and stay in the lead. My bro in law decided to hit it hard on the last weigh in and now he's around the 4% mark...but he has a LOT of weight to lose so I could see him making a charge here at the end if he really goes for it.

Take it out mate!  19 pounds is a great effort too.  Diet is the hardest by far, still my nemesis.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2024, 06:16:52 PM
Just stepped on a scale today, and I'm over 200lbs for the first time in about 8 years.  Gotta find the motivation to change.  I'm starting with my eating habits first.  If/when I can get those under control, then I'll work my way back into exercising.

Just do it man, don't think just start back doing something, extra walking even, one small step brother!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2024, 06:24:57 PM
For me, everything has been pretty consistent.  My legs have copped a hammering with running volume over the last 3-4 months (over 300km a month) so trying to manage that but my goal now while I have time is to focus on improving my running, ie getting faster, running longer and improving my endurance.  This will have to come from more speed work, intervals and things like that.  My endurance is solid, but I'm stagnating. 

The other side is I'm lifting up to six days a week, so the other part of the goal is to improve my lifts also and build more strength.  I've had a lull over the last month or so where I was I think overtraining and getting weaker and slower.  I'm coming out of it but the other part is now to track and focus on my nutrition.  I need to improve the quality of the food and cut out a lot of the shitty food.  I won't get better unless I do everything I can.  Saying that, my needs are looking upwards of 3000 calories a day.  So the last week I've been tracking that and making sure I get just the adequate amount of protein and focusing on carbs.  I think the amount I was doing with my carb intake was doing more harm than good.  And then, the carbs I was getting was sugar mixed with extra fat, no good.  The goal is to improve performance but make sure I'm at least not loosing weight.  If anything, I want to gain a couple of kg while improving performance.

This mornings run was a 7km in just over 35 minutes so it's time to get a little bit of speed back in.  Trying to now taper the volume and push a bit harder at times to increase my Vo2 max.  I didn't get to that level today, the legs suffer well before the cardiovascular system.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 08, 2024, 06:41:32 PM
Getting back into it with some dumbbells and just getting some arms exercises. Really trying to get my eating habits under control.

I would like to get some light cardio in but by the time the kids are in bed, the last thing I want to do is go walking.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 22, 2024, 09:20:50 AM
Just got registered for the annual trail Half Marathon I do each late winter/early spring. March 3rd. The only time I've missed this race since 2012 was in 2016 when I didn't sign up in time and it filled up. Due to it being ran at a State Park they limit the entries to (this year) 300...in the past it was 500....and it fills quick once it's announced. So....this times out pretty good to my recent weight loss challenge...which...finally ends this Friday!!

 I 'should' win this thing....I'm at 10.16% body weight percentage lost....20.1lbs and if I stay on pace I should drop another half pound or so this week. Next closest percentage is 4.47% but I'm not taking anything for granted....gotta hammer out this last week and collect that prize money!!! $350 would be great.


Here's an elevation view of this race....the name of the race is the 'Quivering Quads'....which is very appropriate

(https://i.imgur.com/t6Yqn10.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2024, 10:11:59 AM
Here's an elevation view of this race....the name of the race is the 'Quivering Quads'....which is very appropriate

(https://i.imgur.com/t6Yqn10.jpg)

Seems brutal. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 22, 2024, 10:18:08 AM
Seems brutal. :metal

That jump at the 10.7ish mark that looks like it's straight up....IS virtually a straight up climb. It's this rocky path etched in the side of a 'hill' that is near impossible to actually 'run' it and each step is a leg on fire step. Most of the course as you can see is just cut through nothing but peaks and valleys.

That second leg there that you can see where the trail veers off then sends you on an out and back....when you get to that circular section right when you enter it you cross a chest high creek. It's SO cold but feels SO good!
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2024, 10:53:14 AM
Seems brutal. :metal

That jump at the 10.7ish mark that looks like it's straight up....IS virtually a straight up climb. It's this rocky path etched in the side of a 'hill' that is near impossible to actually 'run' it and each step is a leg on fire step. Most of the course as you can see is just cut through nothing but peaks and valleys.

That second leg there that you can see where the trail veers off then sends you on an out and back....when you get to that circular section right when you enter it you cross a chest high creek. It's SO cold but feels SO good!

I would absolutely run something like this. We really are an insane bunch. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2024, 04:23:00 PM
Just got registered for the annual trail Half Marathon I do each late winter/early spring. March 3rd. The only time I've missed this race since 2012 was in 2016 when I didn't sign up in time and it filled up. Due to it being ran at a State Park they limit the entries to (this year) 300...in the past it was 500....and it fills quick once it's announced. So....this times out pretty good to my recent weight loss challenge...which...finally ends this Friday!!

 I 'should' win this thing....I'm at 10.16% body weight percentage lost....20.1lbs and if I stay on pace I should drop another half pound or so this week. Next closest percentage is 4.47% but I'm not taking anything for granted....gotta hammer out this last week and collect that prize money!!! $350 would be great.


Here's an elevation view of this race....the name of the race is the 'Quivering Quads'....which is very appropriate

(https://i.imgur.com/t6Yqn10.jpg)

So, we're looking at around 400m elevation gain for a half marathon, looks pretty epic Gary!  I'd definitely give this a go too haha.  Good luck.

You on strava mate?  Me, Rich, Ruslan and Tomi all follow each other on there.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 22, 2024, 04:35:03 PM
Just got registered for the annual trail Half Marathon I do each late winter/early spring. March 3rd. The only time I've missed this race since 2012 was in 2016 when I didn't sign up in time and it filled up. Due to it being ran at a State Park they limit the entries to (this year) 300...in the past it was 500....and it fills quick once it's announced. So....this times out pretty good to my recent weight loss challenge...which...finally ends this Friday!!

 I 'should' win this thing....I'm at 10.16% body weight percentage lost....20.1lbs and if I stay on pace I should drop another half pound or so this week. Next closest percentage is 4.47% but I'm not taking anything for granted....gotta hammer out this last week and collect that prize money!!! $350 would be great.


Here's an elevation view of this race....the name of the race is the 'Quivering Quads'....which is very appropriate

(https://i.imgur.com/t6Yqn10.jpg)

So, we're looking at around 400m elevation gain for a half marathon, looks pretty epic Gary!  I'd definitely give this a go too haha.  Good luck.

You on strava mate?  Me, Rich, Ruslan and Tomi all follow each other on there.

I am not. My running is pretty boring. I do the same 5 mile run a couple times a week and then will sign up for this race in the spring and there is a fall half marathon I really like that I sign up for and do that one. That way....I have half marathon runs kind of 'book end' my year.....and keep me semi-motivated to stay in shape.  :lol   My body is kind of 'used' to the half marathon distance and I know what to expect so I don't even train all that hard for them these days...I won't run over that 5 mile distance I'm accustomed to at any point other than the two times a year I run those halves.

And yes....this race is actually pretty popular in the trail running community and people come from a lot of different places to run it simply due to how challenging it can be. They do not cancel it for any weather.....I've run this thing in a flat out thunder storm that went hard and heavy the entire time.....in two foot of snow.....in 6 inches of mud and slop and in perfect conditions. Those of us that ran the thunderstorm year still wear it like a badge of honor. It was insane.
   
I just don't put the miles in nor do I diversify my runs with a variety of trails like I used to. Just a simple routine these days so I really don't do any of the apps or cool things like you guys do.
Title: Re: The Official Exercise/Fitness Thread v. Run Forest, Run!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2024, 04:40:40 PM
Just got registered for the annual trail Half Marathon I do each late winter/early spring. March 3rd. The only time I've missed this race since 2012 was in 2016 when I didn't sign up in time and it filled up. Due to it being ran at a State Park they limit the entries to (this year) 300...in the past it was 500....and it fills quick once it's announced. So....this times out pretty good to my recent weight loss challenge...which...finally ends this Friday!!

 I 'should' win this thing....I'm at 10.16% body weight percentage lost....20.1lbs and if I stay on pace I should drop another half pound or so this week. Next closest percentage is 4.47% but I'm not taking anything for granted....gotta hammer out this last week and collect that prize money!!! $350 would be great.


Here's an elevation view of this race....the name of the race is the 'Quivering Quads'....which is very appropriate

(https://i.imgur.com/t6Yqn10.jpg)

So, we're looking at around 400m elevation gain for a half marathon, looks pretty epic Gary!  I'd definitely give this a go too haha.  Good luck.

You on strava mate?  Me, Rich, Ruslan and Tomi all follow each other on there.

I am not. My running is pretty boring. I do the same 5 mile run a couple times a week and then will sign up for this race in the spring and there is a fall half marathon I really like that I sign up for and do that one. That way....I have half marathon runs kind of 'book end' my year.....and keep me semi-motivated to stay in shape.  :lol   My body is kind of 'used' to the half marathon distance and I know what to expect so I don't even train all that hard for them these days...I won't run over that 5 mile distance I'm accustomed to at any point other than the two times a year I run those halves.

And yes....this race is actually pretty popular in the trail running community and people come from a lot of different places to run it simply due to how challenging it can be. They do not cancel it for any weather.....I've run this thing in a flat out thunder storm that went hard and heavy the entire time.....in two foot of snow.....in 6 inches of mud and slop and in perfect conditions. Those of us that ran the thunderstorm year still wear it like a badge of honor. It was insane.
   
I just don't put the miles in nor do I diversify my runs with a variety of trails like I used to. Just a simple routine these days so I really don't do any of the apps or cool things like you guys do.

Fair enough mate, whatever routine works to keep you running, that's the main thing.  I remember you posting this race last time though with you results.  Looking forward to that again.  Funny, I am the complete opposite in my training.  Run most days but never signed up for an actual race.  For some reason it just doesn't really interest me.

I am still toying with the idea of an ultra though.  Seems a bit far away going those sorts of distances though.  Maybe a shorter one like this might be a better starting point.