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Title: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on April 27, 2009, 07:48:01 AM
Let me say that I'm thrilled this forum is back. I had not been around that long, but it was comfortable and I enjoyed posting here . Being an old fart, I loved the fogeys thread, so I figured I'd give the name of it a facelift. Being one of the oldest members on the board, I like the geriatric brotherhood ! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: millahh on April 27, 2009, 07:49:02 AM
Word up to my fellow fogeys!

This place doesn't smell like mothballs yet...we need more fogeys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on April 27, 2009, 07:50:26 AM
Consider me joined!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 27, 2009, 08:10:49 AM
you don't even wanna know where there's mold.

I miss my stars.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on April 27, 2009, 08:15:34 AM
Old fogey LV present and accounted for    :millahhhh
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: sonatafanica on April 27, 2009, 08:18:10 AM
(https://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q281/firstmanin55/1211233834351.jpg)

I'll just leave this here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Nick on April 27, 2009, 08:18:20 AM
Man, I was sure we'd lose a few of you in that week we were down, glad to see despite all of your extreme ages that you are still with us.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on April 27, 2009, 08:18:41 AM
Reporting for duty...now where is that damn nurse with my pills
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 27, 2009, 08:21:07 AM
Man, I was sure we'd lose a few of you in that week we were down, glad to see despite all of your extreme ages that you are still with us.
Nah, I just caught up on my burping and farting. Took lots of Glucosomine and built a shed in my backyard. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2009, 08:38:56 AM
Got my Depends strapped on and reporting for the shuffleboard tourney!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: rumborak on April 27, 2009, 08:42:00 AM
WHAT? YOU THINK I'M COLD?!

("no grandpa, 'old as mold'. It's a saying.")

You crazy youngsters. Saying I can't hold a cold. When I was your age, we would have a cold for 3 months, and that was when they called the flu a cold still.

rumborak
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on April 27, 2009, 11:22:00 AM
Oh boy, so many postings for one day. 

(https://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/rman747l.jpg)

Time for a nap zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 27, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
Now where did I leave that damn avatar?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on April 27, 2009, 12:43:07 PM
now I am old again....yay!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 27, 2009, 12:43:23 PM
I had to start a thread asking for help resizing a pic so I could finally have an avatar after not having one for a couple of years, so I'm guessing I'm old enough to join.  Also, when I farted this morning dust came out.   :yarr
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 28, 2009, 07:48:48 AM
Just got done taking a 40 minute walk. It felt great. The sun shines brightly, and its already in the 70's at 9:30 am. Its gonna bee 88 in Connecticut today. I have much to do, so I must get motivated.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: fivestring on April 28, 2009, 09:54:18 AM
*signs in*

...and my b-day is in a few months - so i'll be another year closer to that double-digit age starting with a 4.

At least with that old phrase, "If it's too loud, you're too old", I don't think it's too loud yet, I just think a lot of it sucks now-days.

**cue the "back in my day...."**

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 28, 2009, 10:00:18 AM
Headed to meet a longtime friend for lunch and run a few errands in my new (used) truck I bought last night.  :millahhhh

 Laundry and DTF will have to wait until tomorrow...   :|
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 29, 2009, 06:55:35 AM
Time to take my morning walk. Ate an egg sandwich for breakfast, need to get the wind out. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on April 29, 2009, 07:18:17 AM
Time to take my morning walk. Ate an egg sandwich for breakfast, need to get the wind out. :biggrin:

This waking up 5 times before my alarm goes of is for the birds.When I was younger I'd sleep through an earthquake.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 29, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
Morning old farts!!  Today is laundry and clean the house day.  Yippee!!  What an exciting life I lead.  On the plus side, we leave Monday for a cruise to the Bahamas...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: ShadowGirl on April 29, 2009, 09:42:59 AM
Morning old farts!!  Today is laundry and clean the house day.  Yippee!!  What an exciting life I lead.  On the plus side, we leave Monday for a cruise to the Bahamas...
Watch out for those damn pesky pirates.

BTW...has anyone seen my hair dye?  Must get the gray out now.

Donna
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 29, 2009, 09:56:43 AM
nead my ear hair trimmed....again..damnit.
wife thinks we should wax it..but I said "if you put any more wax in my ears I'll hardly be able to hear you..............................when do we start?"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 29, 2009, 10:08:10 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2009, 10:53:22 AM
I bought a Zebra album today!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on April 29, 2009, 11:01:08 AM
I bought a Zebra album today!!

An actual album or cd, and what album?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2009, 11:11:58 AM
Actually it was a used copy of Zebra-Live.  Gotta love Newbury Comics!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on April 29, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
Actually it was a used copy of Zebra-Live.  Gotta love Newbury Comics!

White cover w/ all three of them on it.  I love, "Makin you the Fool"!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2009, 02:29:35 PM
Actually it was a used copy of Zebra-Live.  Gotta love Newbury Comics!

White cover w/ all three of them on it.  I love, "Makin you the Fool"!
'Tis the one. I'll check out that track!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
nead my ear hair trimmed....again..damnit.
wife thinks we should wax it..but I said "if you put any more wax in my ears I'll hardly be able to hear you..............................when do we start?"

 :rollin 

I still go with the tweezers.  Actually, my 8 year old daughter loves plucking them for me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on April 29, 2009, 03:59:55 PM
anyone heard from wkmil...can't remember how long it was till he would go into rehab?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 29, 2009, 04:46:53 PM
anyone heard from wkmil...can't remember how long it was till he would go into rehab?
It was at the beginning of the month, but I don't recall if it meant April or May.  Since I never went to rehab, my memory is pretty pathetic.  It seems like the topic came up this month though. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 29, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
Forgive my ignorance, I'm new in the Old Fogey Club and unfamiliar with wkmil's rehab situation.  Was it physical (a knee or something) or substance?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dublagent66 on April 29, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Old fogey here reporting for duty.   :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on April 29, 2009, 06:31:33 PM
Actually it was a used copy of Zebra-Live.  Gotta love Newbury Comics!

awesome album still gets lots of spins
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on April 29, 2009, 06:33:08 PM
anyone heard from wkmil...can't remember how long it was till he would go into rehab?

I'm still here just waiting on my release date from work its looking like 5/11 will be my last day at work...than take care of some personal stuff and go get my ass cleaned up
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on April 29, 2009, 06:35:09 PM
Forgive my ignorance, I'm new in the Old Fogey Club and unfamiliar with wkmil's rehab situation.  Was it physical (a knee or something) or substance?

DT  substance  I have an issue with drinking since i've been 16 but it never consumed my life they way it has the last couple of months..its lead to other health problems so its time to get myself clean
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on April 29, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
good to see you around and look forward to seeing you on the other side
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2009, 06:31:09 AM
Actually it was a used copy of Zebra-Live.  Gotta love Newbury Comics!

awesome album still gets lots of spins

That's funny, I thought of you when I bought it!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 30, 2009, 09:02:43 AM
Its a great day to hack things with a chainsaw ! Hopefully not my leg.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 30, 2009, 09:44:54 AM
Boy am I tired.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 30, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
Forgive my ignorance, I'm new in the Old Fogey Club and unfamiliar with wkmil's rehab situation.  Was it physical (a knee or something) or substance?

DT  substance  I have an issue with drinking since i've been 16 but it never consumed my life they way it has the last couple of months..its lead to other health problems so its time to get myself clean
Good for you.  I'm sure its not an easy decision to make but I'm hoping you will be successful and getting clean will improve your life.  I have a good friend who quit drinking about 4 years ago and he has never been happier.  Best of luck to you!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2009, 10:15:41 AM
Boy am I tired.

That's probably because you haven't slept since you found out that DT is coming to NC!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on April 30, 2009, 11:42:29 AM
What the hell are all these young punks doing here?  30 ain't old!

I turn 47 this year and I'm...  hmm, can't really say I'm "proud" of it...  but dammit, just plain living this long ought to count for something (especially if you've done as much stupid shit in your life as I've done).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on April 30, 2009, 12:16:41 PM
An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen. The two gentlemen were talking, and one said, 'Last night we went out to a new restaurant and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly.'

The other man said, 'What is the name of the restaurant?'
The first man thought and thought and finally said, 'What is the name of that flower you give to someone you love? You know... The one that's red and has thorns.'

'Do you mean a rose?'

'Yes, that's the one,' replied the man. He then turned towards the kitchen and yelled,

'Rose, darling, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?'
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 30, 2009, 12:31:22 PM
What the hell are all these young punks doing here?  30 ain't old!

I turn 47 this year and I'm...  hmm, can't really say I'm "proud" of it...  but dammit, just plain living this long ought to count for something (especially if you've done as much stupid shit in your life as I've done).
I'm 44, and you can add me to the "done stupid shit in your life" list. If I wrote a book about my life, people would trully believe me to be a liar.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on April 30, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
Same here.  I'm 39 and I'm actually contemplating writing a book about my crazy life.  It's a miracle I'm still on this earth and in relatively good health considering the life I've had.  And yeah, no one would believe half of what I could write... 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2009, 01:38:51 PM
Fess up Fogeys!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 30, 2009, 02:41:40 PM
We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on April 30, 2009, 03:17:34 PM
We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 

I think Jackie mentioned he didn't have a computer anymore...seems his was giving him problems and he smashed it
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TempusVox on April 30, 2009, 03:31:15 PM
Yeah...where the hell is The TP anyway?

Back on the topic of "done stupid poo", it amazes me not just of all the really stupid things I've done, but also all of the stuff I have crammed into my life thus far. It really does. The thing that panics me is all of the stuff I still want to cram into it. When I die, I know that people will say "He really lived a very full, rich, complete life." What troubles me is that they could say that right now! Hell, I've got about 70 more years worth of living to do, and if I'm really lucky, only about 40 more quality years left! I have not up until now, and will not ever grow old gracefully. Fuck that! I'm going out swinging when I go damnit! You better be able to continue doing shit in the afterlife, or I'll be really pissed off!

As for Carpe Diem, I truly try to do this everyday. I literally have way too much life to live in the time we're all given. If you can't say the same thing- unplug your computer, get off your ass, and get moving.

But if I look back on all the things I've experienced and accomplished, it seems like I'm looking at the lives of at least three people, and I'm only 45. Like Jerry Reed used to sing, "I've got a long way to go and a short time to get there."  Thats so true about life isn't it?

I was at an event a couple of years ago in Minnesota and got to spend some time with John Sandford. I'm a tremendous fan of his work, and it was really exciting for me. In my opinion he captures every day character dialogue like no one else in the business today. He also writes great stories too. But he told me he signs just about everything he signs now with ''Don't forget to enjoy the real world that exists outside of fiction. -John Sandford". He does this now because he meets so many people who live to read, and DO NOTHING ELSE! I've met those people too! How sad. My wife and I remind each other almost every day that life is short. It truly, truly is.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on April 30, 2009, 04:18:37 PM
I suppose it might be cynical, and also go against the spirit of the topic I myself brought up, but our peers who did all the same stupid shit we did and didn't survive... well, they're here to talk about it, are they?  So it's only logical that the ones who survived are the ones here to tell the tale, and the law of averages says that there will be a few.

I saw this movie a long time ago called Cherry 2000.  Typical post-apocalyptic crapfest where 99% of the population is gone and those who are left live in anarchy.  The main bad guy, Lester, leads a bunch of thugs around the wastelands on quadrunners.  They do what they want, take what they want, because there's no one to stop them.

There's this one scene where they're up on a hill, revving the quads, getting ready to do some raping and pillaging, and he looks at his buddies and says:

"Remember... Life Is Adventure!"

The character was meant to be dispicable of course, but I was like 12 years old and what stuck with me was the attitude.  Life is adventure.  You do what you have to do to keep going, and do what excites you and gives you a kick otherwise.  You don't know what's coming, and you sure as hell don't know when it'll all end, so have your fun now.  The only thing I would add is that you do all this without stomping on someone else's rights, but otherwise that's where I'm at.  Experience everything you can.  Do everything you can, see everything you can.  You get one shot... make it a good one.  It's only later that you realize how stupid it might have been, but some would say that a short, exciting, full life beats a long boring one.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 30, 2009, 06:17:11 PM
We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 
Well, it would appear that was not going to happen. You will have to settle for tick. Sorry.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 30, 2009, 06:48:21 PM
We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 

I think Jackie mentioned he didn't have a computer anymore...seems his was giving him problems and he smashed it
And that's such and admirable fucking quality, isn't it?  I certainly did some maniacal things in my youth, but I've become quite "analytical" in my old age.  The thought that I could use Mr. Maglite to smash my computer the next time it BOSDs me is foreign; overruled by the knowledge of the time and money I spent building the thing. 

We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 
Well, it would appear that was not going to happen. You will have to settle for tick. Sorry.
And I dig having you around, but TTP was a different breed of animal.  He was actually before my time here, but reading through the archive gave me a pretty good appreciation of the fellow.  He also started the original Old Fogeys thread; hence the patronage. 

Of all the stuff lost due to the recent down time, the thread on "embarrassing sex stories" is the loss that hurts the most, and he was the most entertaining by far. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 30, 2009, 08:47:43 PM
Yeah, but nothing really embarassed him.

He is a legend.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on May 01, 2009, 12:12:59 AM
An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen. The two gentlemen were talking, and one said, 'Last night we went out to a new restaurant and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly.'

The other man said, 'What is the name of the restaurant?'
The first man thought and thought and finally said, 'What is the name of that flower you give to someone you love? You know... The one that's red and has thorns.'

'Do you mean a rose?'

'Yes, that's the one,' replied the man. He then turned towards the kitchen and yelled,

'Rose, darling, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?'

that was great!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 01, 2009, 05:58:29 AM
We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 

I think Jackie mentioned he didn't have a computer anymore...seems his was giving him problems and he smashed it
And that's such and admirable fucking quality, isn't it?  I certainly did some maniacal things in my youth, but I've become quite "analytical" in my old age.  The thought that I could use Mr. Maglite to smash my computer the next time it BOSDs me is foreign; overruled by the knowledge of the time and money I spent building the thing. 

We need the Texas Pirate back as the thread patron. 
Well, it would appear that was not going to happen. You will have to settle for tick. Sorry.
And I dig having you around, but TTP was a different breed of animal.  He was actually before my time here, but reading through the archive gave me a pretty good appreciation of the fellow.  He also started the original Old Fogeys thread; hence the patronage. 

Of all the stuff lost due to the recent down time, the thread on "embarrassing sex stories" is the loss that hurts the most, and he was the most entertaining by far. 
Sounds like an interesting guy. I'll tell ya what. If he returns and wants to start a fogeys thread, I will gladly delete mine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on May 01, 2009, 08:03:57 AM
Three old guys are out walking.
First one says, 'Windy, isn't it?'
Second one says, 'No, it's Thursday!'
Third one says, 'So am I. Let's go get a beer.'
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 01, 2009, 08:35:01 AM
Ok here's and old married man's joke.

How do you change a dishwasher to a snowblower?












Hand the Bitch a shovel! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: masterthes on May 03, 2009, 11:08:13 AM
Well, I turned 30 on Thursday. Now get off my lawn!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 03, 2009, 06:02:09 PM
What sucks about getting old?

It takes longer to recover from sex!   :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 04, 2009, 05:30:06 AM
my tenth anniversary on Friday.

Saturday night after a long day, I turned the light off at 9:30.
My wife proceeded to rip about a 25 second fart that trumpeted at the beginning..."saxed" at the end and scared the dog off the bed.

she then giggled herself to sleep.

I'm 34.
This is my life.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 04, 2009, 07:07:59 AM
my tenth anniversary on Friday.

Saturday night after a long day, I turned the light off at 9:30.
My wife proceeded to rip about a 25 second fart that trumpeted at the beginning..."saxed" at the end and scared the dog off the bed.

she then giggled herself to sleep.

I'm 34.
This is my life.

This is every married mans life.  Richard Jeni had a great story about this.  If i find it on youtube, I'll post it later.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 04, 2009, 07:32:50 AM
Yup.  Weekends take on a completely different meaning, especially if you have kids.  When you're young, weekends are for partying all night.  Somehow that gets reversed, and weekends become the time you actually can, or at least try to, get caught up on your sleep, after busting ass all week.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on May 04, 2009, 09:06:13 AM
Had my 10th anniversary last month.  Went out to dinner at the restaurant I proposed at.  Very romantic.  We were so full after dinner, we put dessert off until later.  Checked into a hotel downtown Toronto, and ended up that the only place we could find within walking distance for dessert was Tim Horton's (big donut/coffee chain in Canada).  Stale cookie/donut and hot chocolate for dessert.

Good times.

Going to DisneyWorld next week for 10 days.  THAT will be good times.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 04, 2009, 09:52:06 AM
My ninth anniversary is coming up in July.  Most likely, we are celebrating by combining a trip to Florida with the Orlando DT show (for me; my wife can't stand DT).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on May 04, 2009, 10:04:18 AM
I'm batching it for the month in CA while my family finishes school in TX, but they are coming out next weekend, so it will be like an anniversary....yay!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: ShadowGirl on May 04, 2009, 11:04:30 AM
Yup.  Weekends take on a completely different meaning, especially if you have kids.  When you're young, weekends are for partying all night.  Somehow that gets reversed, and weekends become the time you actually can, or at least try to, get caught up on your sleep, after busting ass all week.
Man..that is so true. 

It's like the age thing, when you are young, you want to be older, when you are older, you wish to be young.  Or at least to "look" younger.  I don't want to be younger, but I wish these gray hairs would go away.

Donna
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 04, 2009, 11:09:59 AM
my tenth anniversary on Friday.

Saturday night after a long day, I turned the light off at 9:30.
My wife proceeded to rip about a 25 second fart that trumpeted at the beginning..."saxed" at the end and scared the dog off the bed.

she then giggled herself to sleep.

I'm 34.
This is my life.
I'm 44 and that sounds like a typical night in my bed. See what you have to look forward too over the next 10 years. More of the same. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: veronica on May 04, 2009, 02:49:56 PM
Oh no... I'm 24!
...and that sounds like me and my husband. So this is it, then? I'm really stuck? :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 04, 2009, 04:02:10 PM
This is all us olf fogeys have left.  Who is right and who is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMja234w77M
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 04, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
Veronica, you don't have kids yet, though. 

Get out there and have some fun while you still can!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 04, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
Time for some geritol and a good nights rest.:tick:

(seriously, what the hell is geritol anyway ?)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 04, 2009, 10:28:59 PM
I never found out.  When we were kids, there were commercials for it all the time, but all I knew was that old people took it.  Don't know why, or what it did.  Now I never see it. Is it still around?

But Geritol <--> "geriatric" = "old person".  Can't be a coincidence.  It's a tonic for old people.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: veronica on May 05, 2009, 12:07:21 AM
Veronica, you don't have kids yet, though. 

Get out there and have some fun while you still can!
I know, I know! Heh.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 05, 2009, 06:01:23 AM
I never found out.  When we were kids, there were commercials for it all the time, but all I knew was that old people took it.  Don't know why, or what it did.  Now I never see it. Is it still around?

But Geritol <--> "geriatric" = "old person".  Can't be a coincidence.  It's a tonic for old people.
I'm guessing its like old people vitimins they take before bed ? I remember my grandparents watching Lawrence Welk, and Lawrence would pedal the hell out of the crap.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 05, 2009, 08:20:06 AM
I never found out.  When we were kids, there were commercials for it all the time, but all I knew was that old people took it.  Don't know why, or what it did.  Now I never see it. Is it still around?

But Geritol <--> "geriatric" = "old person".  Can't be a coincidence.  It's a tonic for old people.
I'm guessing its like old people vitimins they take before bed ? I remember my grandparents watching Lawrence Welk, and Lawrence would pedal the hell out of the crap.

Geritol was introduced as an alcohol-based, iron and B vitamin tonic
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 05, 2009, 08:46:44 AM
I knew it!  Freakin' vitamin-enhanced nightcap for old people.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 05, 2009, 09:00:15 AM
I knew it!  Freakin' vitamin-enhanced nightcap for old people.
lol :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 05, 2009, 09:04:51 AM
Check this out !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pni9ZePXR-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pni9ZePXR-w)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 05, 2009, 09:54:03 AM
Attention older balding men :
All that precious hair you have lost on top of your head is now growing out of your ears and nose. Hey, be thankfull for what you have. I'm lucky, I still have it gowing out of all locations !
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 05, 2009, 10:53:38 AM
Attention older balding men :
All that precious hair you have lost on top of your head is now growing out of your ears and nose. Hey, be thankfull for what you have. I'm lucky, I still have it gowing out of all locations !

Your is just growning out od your ears and nose only?  Your a lucky man Tick!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 05, 2009, 11:11:46 AM
Attention older balding men :
All that precious hair you have lost on top of your head is now growing out of your ears and nose. Hey, be thankfull for what you have. I'm lucky, I still have it gowing out of all locations !

Your is just growning out od your ears and nose only?  Your a lucky man Tick!
I don't want to know where your growing hair. Its sounds scary. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 05, 2009, 11:15:50 AM
Attention older balding men :
All that precious hair you have lost on top of your head is now growing out of your ears and nose. Hey, be thankfull for what you have. I'm lucky, I still have it gowing out of all locations !

Your is just growning out od your ears and nose only?  Your a lucky man Tick!
I don't want to know where your growing hair. Its sounds scary. :biggrin:

I can't help it,  I'm half Lebanese!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 05, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
my tenth anniversary on Friday.

Saturday night after a long day, I turned the light off at 9:30.
My wife proceeded to rip about a 25 second fart that trumpeted at the beginning..."saxed" at the end and scared the dog off the bed.

she then giggled herself to sleep.

I'm 34.
This is my life.

This is every married mans life.  Richard Jeni had a great story about this.  If i find it on youtube, I'll post it later.

:lol :lol

my sons thought until I had a daughter that females were exempt from excretion, or perhaps lacked sphincters altogether.

We uphold some semblence of ladylikeness around this house.

Goddamnit, fucking right we do. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 05, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
my tenth anniversary on Friday.

Saturday night after a long day, I turned the light off at 9:30.
My wife proceeded to rip about a 25 second fart that trumpeted at the beginning..."saxed" at the end and scared the dog off the bed.

she then giggled herself to sleep.

I'm 34.
This is my life.

This is every married mans life.  Richard Jeni had a great story about this.  If i find it on youtube, I'll post it later.

:lol :lol

my sons thought until I had a daughter that females were exempt from excretion, or perhaps lacked sphincters altogether.

We uphold some semblence of ladylikeness around this house.

Goddamnit, fucking right we do. :lol

So pregnancy isn't because there's a baby in there, it's because of the lack of sphincter to expel the feces? :tard
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 05, 2009, 11:31:03 AM
Pregnancy isn't pregnancy. It's what happens to your stomach if you swallow a watermelon seed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 05, 2009, 12:08:23 PM
not around my house......if you got it....blast it...is pretty much the moto.

The house can sometimes smell like a toilet no matter what room you're in...but we're all feeling quite well gastronomically.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 05, 2009, 12:15:45 PM
My six year old daughter randomly decided that farts come from "the butt cave" and now hollers at her father about his butt cave quite often.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: ShadowGirl on May 05, 2009, 01:02:06 PM
This is all us olf fogeys have left.  Who is right and who is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMja234w77M
: :rollin :rollin :rollin
My six year old daughter randomly decided that farts come from "the butt cave" and now hollers at her father about his butt cave quite often.
:rollin

Donna
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 05, 2009, 04:56:59 PM
"To the Butt Cave, Robin!"

Robin: sigh *grabs the Vaseline*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 06, 2009, 01:52:36 PM
An old fogey tidmit for ya.
 I went to see Yanni last night. Laugh if you wish, but it was an amazing concert. I was shocked at how good it was.
No Geritol required.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 06, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
An old fogey tidmit for ya.
 I went to see Yanni last night. Laugh if you wish, but it was an amazing concert. I was shocked at how good it was.
No Geritol required.

It's ok now that he got rid of his porn stache and Linda Evans. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 06, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
Yanni is awesome.  I still spin Live at the Acropolis once in a while.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 06, 2009, 04:20:02 PM
Yanni is awesome.  I still spin Live at the Acropolis once in a while.
I also have that cd, so when I was offered free tickets, I jumped on the offer. Damn glad I did. It was a tremendous show.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 07, 2009, 06:43:11 AM
"To the Butt Cave, Robin!"

Robin: sigh *grabs the Vaseline*

:lol :lol

So, old people, my arthritis is aggressive it would seem. This is a bitch. So now I find myself wondering whether theres' anything I want to do with my hands that I never learned to do, because I want to do everything while I still can. I have a feeling I won't learn guitar with my kid after all, but that's alright. Still though, there's a nagging feeling that I need to hurry because a year ago this time I was fine and now both of my hands are in hte beginning stages of gnarling, and I'm 36.

I was thinking of makign a thread about "what would you do if you knew one of your appendages was going to become useless iwthin ten years" but I'm going to get nothing but "fap" and "fuck" :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 07, 2009, 06:48:53 AM
From this crowd that's all you'll get.
At least it's honesty.

(fap fap fap)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 07, 2009, 11:50:19 AM
Try piano instead?  That's a serious answer.  I can play the piano in my sleep, upside-down, or on combinations of drugs for which there are no names, but guitar and other stringed instruments elude me.  Fingers just can't do it.  But the piano is much more forgiving.  Hit the key, you get the note.  It seems like it would be less demanding for someone with limited function in their fingers/hands.


I was all set to come in here with a new topic, in a much less serious vein, but Jen's topic is serious and kind of a downer.

So I'll start it up anyway, because we need lighter fare to balance the serious, and I think we can handle two topics at once.  We're not that senile yet, right?  Wait... what was I talking about?

----------

I was sitting there in a food court last night, eating some KFC, digging on Colonel Sanders' special blend of eleven herbs and spices, when it occurred to me that you never hear them mention the special blend of eleven herbs and spices anymore.  Across the way is a McDonald's, and a thought comes unbidden into my mind:

"Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun"

And I found myself thinking about all kind of advertising slogans that I grew up with but never hear anymore.

"You're in good hands with Allstate"
"Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there"
"Give your cold to Contac"
"Tastes Great, Less Filling"

Anyone else?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on May 07, 2009, 11:56:18 AM
I want my Maypo!

Where's the beef??
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 07, 2009, 12:14:58 PM
ROLAIDS spells relief.

The incredible edible egg.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 07, 2009, 12:38:17 PM
I;d like to teach the world to sing.......


I'm a pepper, hes a pepper,

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 07, 2009, 12:45:19 PM
I am stuck on Band Aid brand, cause Band Aid's stuck on me/ ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 07, 2009, 12:46:54 PM
Alka Seltzer...
"I can't believe I ate the whole thing."

No that shows my age. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 07, 2009, 12:51:23 PM
Mt balonry has a first name its OSCAR
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 07, 2009, 12:53:14 PM
SHAMWOW!!!


Have a coke and a smile (and STFU-eddie murphy version)

hhmm...what's the 2000 Flushes one?.....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 07, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Mt balonry has a first name its OSCAR
Are you getting pornographic on us ? :o
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 07, 2009, 01:16:46 PM
Mt balonry has a first name its OSCAR
Are you getting pornographic on us ? :o

Where exactly is Mount Balonry?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 07, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Mt balonry has a first name its OSCAR
Are you getting pornographic on us ? :o

Where exactly is Mount Balonry?
I'm guessing its behind a zipper.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on May 07, 2009, 01:25:34 PM
:lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on May 07, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
"Roto Rooter, that's the name
All your troubles, down the drain"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2009, 02:06:45 PM
All I can think of is:

Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 07, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
Mt balonry has a first name its OSCAR
Are you getting pornographic on us ? :o

Where exactly is Mount Balonry?

Doh! That's what I get for hitting the post button without looking at what I typed!  The One Finger Typing Bandit signing out!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 08, 2009, 05:16:02 AM
"Roto Rooter, that's the name
All your troubles, down the drain"

i can still sing this. me and my friends thought this was hilarious when I was abuot 6. I remember my dog was named snoopy and one day me and a friend were eating chicken noodle soup for lunch after preschool and were having hysterics saying "THERE GOES SNOOPY DOWN THE DRAIN!" and falling off our chairs.

Yeah, not funny anymore. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on May 13, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
Uh oh... *beepbeep!* Better get Maaco!!

I can't believe I ate the whole thing...

Plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is...

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 13, 2009, 05:25:53 PM
now I know i'm old I forgot this thread ever existed......wait...what? ...ahhh shit i forgot what i was talking about
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 13, 2009, 05:31:39 PM
When I was in junior high, we used to sing "Plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is" in the context of someone taking a dump.  It worked.

We were so funny.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 13, 2009, 08:02:41 PM
Yesterday I was old as mold.  Today, I'm older than mold.   :'(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 14, 2009, 04:06:07 AM
uh oh, did we miss a birthday? i wish the forum calendar was enabled so that stuff would show on the front page like it used to, now we can't ever say happy birthday to people :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 14, 2009, 06:24:21 AM
Meh. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 14, 2009, 08:18:58 AM
uh oh, did we miss a birthday? i wish the forum calendar was enabled so that stuff would show on the front page like it used to, now we can't ever say happy birthday to people :(

Will we get the calendar back eventually?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 14, 2009, 09:27:11 AM
uh oh, did we miss a birthday? i wish the forum calendar was enabled so that stuff would show on the front page like it used to, now we can't ever say happy birthday to people :(

Will we get the calendar back eventually?
Even if we do, were too old to remember its back. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 16, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
Had my visit to the Doctor about getting into a rehab....he figures 3 to 7 days of inpatient to detox than its out patient and AA meetings I am probably going in on Wednesday or Thursday  so if it seems I fell of the face of the earth that is why
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: veronica on May 16, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
Good "luck" wkiml. We're all rooting for ya!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 16, 2009, 06:39:43 PM
Had my visit to the Doctor about getting into a rehab....he figures 3 to 7 days of inpatient to detox than its out patient and AA meetings I am probably going in on Wednesday or Thursday  so if it seems I fell of the face of the earth that is why
I applaud you sir. Your life is worth whatever the price. Just ask, and I will provide you some comic relief. It won't be easy, but nothing worthwhile ever is. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 16, 2009, 09:33:07 PM
thank you for your kind thoughts   this is something ive been meaning to do  but i kept pushing it back

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on May 16, 2009, 09:51:55 PM
glad you made it to this point...you will be all the better when done
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 17, 2009, 05:57:36 AM
Only old moldies are up posting this early. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 17, 2009, 06:20:40 AM
Shoot, I"ve been up an hour. On a weekday this would be my third hour of wakefulness. Viva .. um.. oldness.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 17, 2009, 09:16:54 AM
Don't pass out Old Moldies.  I got to sleep in till 9am!  I've wasted the whole day!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 17, 2009, 10:05:48 AM
Another geezer reporting for duty.....the site crashed not too long after I originally joined up and I just kind of forgot about it after that......anyway, here I am......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 17, 2009, 11:10:37 PM
Feeling old again today.  I realized that I'm now finding more music that I actually want to listen to on the "Oldies" station than on the "Classic Rock" station.  In general, I probably like the songs on the Classic Rock station better, but they play like the same 100 or so classics over and over.  No variety.  In fact, they even make a huge deal out of it when they do play "deep cuts" or "long tracks".  Fuck that.  The Oldies station plays some poppier stuff, but I'm hearing a lot of great songs that I forgot about. 

It might just be a phase, but damn, I listen to "Oldies" now.  I'm pretty sure that makes me old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 18, 2009, 05:59:47 AM
Feeling old again today.  I realized that I'm now finding more music that I actually want to listen to on the "Oldies" station than on the "Classic Rock" station.  In general, I probably like the songs on the Classic Rock station better, but they play like the same 100 or so classics over and over.  No variety.  In fact, they even make a huge deal out of it when they do play "deep cuts" or "long tracks".  Fuck that.  The Oldies station plays some poppier stuff, but I'm hearing a lot of great songs that I forgot about. 

It might just be a phase, but damn, I listen to "Oldies" now.  I'm pretty sure that makes me old.
and how does that make you feel ?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on May 18, 2009, 06:04:58 AM
Had my visit to the Doctor about getting into a rehab....he figures 3 to 7 days of inpatient to detox than its out patient and AA meetings I am probably going in on Wednesday or Thursday  so if it seems I fell of the face of the earth that is why

Best of luck wki! I'm rooting for you!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on May 18, 2009, 06:05:42 AM
Feeling old again today.  I realized that I'm now finding more music that I actually want to listen to on the "Oldies" station than on the "Classic Rock" station.  In general, I probably like the songs on the Classic Rock station better, but they play like the same 100 or so classics over and over.  No variety.  In fact, they even make a huge deal out of it when they do play "deep cuts" or "long tracks".  Fuck that.  The Oldies station plays some poppier stuff, but I'm hearing a lot of great songs that I forgot about. 

It might just be a phase, but damn, I listen to "Oldies" now.  I'm pretty sure that makes me old.

Old-bert!   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 18, 2009, 11:09:54 AM
Had my visit to the Doctor about getting into a rehab....he figures 3 to 7 days of inpatient to detox than its out patient and AA meetings I am probably going in on Wednesday or Thursday  so if it seems I fell of the face of the earth that is why

Best of luck wki! I'm rooting for you!

Thanks to you and the others I am checking myself in tomorrow morning 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 19, 2009, 04:40:02 AM
Had my visit to the Doctor about getting into a rehab....he figures 3 to 7 days of inpatient to detox than its out patient and AA meetings I am probably going in on Wednesday or Thursday  so if it seems I fell of the face of the earth that is why

Best of luck wki! I'm rooting for you!

Thanks to you and the others I am checking myself in tomorrow morning 


Wow, good luck :) I think we should have lots of posts of encouragement and awesomeness waiting here for him when he gets back, guys.

But we're old and will prolly forget :lol

Seriously though, that's fantastic :) If there's some way that someone you don't really know can legitimately be proud of you, then consider me to be. Not sure how that works, but I know this feeling inside: "wow, I'm impressed, that's a huge thing to do, respect ++ !"


:hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 19, 2009, 05:11:46 AM
finished a weekend of tent trailering with my family, dropped the trailer off at my uncle's who lives around the corner from the campground....his sort-of-adopted-son was there....good kid...20 years old. We shoot the shit for a bit when his new little hottie that he's been seeing shows up.

sighhh.....I think she was 20.
wow....wow...wow....I'm old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 19, 2009, 06:19:21 AM
Good morning moldies ! Just finished my morning coffee and I must say...
Sorry, got to go !(https://www.therushforum.com/html/emoticons/bolt.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 19, 2009, 06:28:22 AM
turtle's pokin his head out of the shell eh tick?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
I'm feeling older than ever.

I play guitar and sing in my church's praise team (my wife is the worship leader/lead singer).  We play every Sunday morning, and also a few songs on Wednesday nights.

This past Saturday night, we had our first "gig" at a Christian coffee house here in town.  We rehearsed Thursday night and Friday night, hauled our gear to the coffee house Saturday afternoon, played for 2 hours Saturday night, hauled our gear back to church, then a normal service Sunday morning.

I am beat.  Still.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2009, 12:58:17 PM
An Evening With........HEFDADDY! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2009, 08:01:21 PM
An Evening With........HEFDADDY! :metal
:lol yeah, it was pretty cool, actually. 

You know how bar bands typically get free beer?  We got free...coffee and other assorted beverages.

 :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Volume92 on May 19, 2009, 09:39:43 PM
another moldling checkin in with just a few jogs for memory...

for starters: My parents drove me home for the first time in the front seat of the car  :tup there were no safety belts in most cars I was in until I was 15. (<---unheard-of in today's world) Worn one with every car ride since then.

a commercial - I remember this being on TV:

HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
What kind of kids love Ar-mour HOT DOGS?
Big kids, lit-tle kids, kids who climb on rocks
fat kids, skin-ny kids, ev-en kids with chicken pox
love HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
The dogs kids love to bite!

Oh. My...Could we EVER get away with that "fat kids, skinny kids" stuff today??   oh, and you know P.E.T.A. would be ALL OVER that last line :xbones :police: :\

oooo..... "It's Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!"  :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pErbVm-LGI

Toys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00WrgIdcio  
haven't seen an SSP in a very...long...time  :metal

I also remember saying "Cool". One word that's definitely stood the test of time.



Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 19, 2009, 10:39:25 PM
"Cool" definitely has persisted.  Things were cool back in the 50's, for cryin' out loud.  Things were still cool in the 60's, 70's, and on to today.

Meanwhile, things have been rad, def, phat, groovy, fine, and fresh, but they aren't anymore.  There are other examples.

Another one that's been around a while is "sweet".  Things were sweet back in the 70's, maybe even before.  Things can still be sweet now.  Things have been awesome since the early 80's or so, and that's not bad.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 20, 2009, 04:33:41 AM
I'm just relieved not to be gagged with a spoon anymore.

Why was "totally tubular" such a good thing? I guess tubes are good...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 20, 2009, 07:11:16 AM
another moldling checkin in with just a few jogs for memory...

for starters: My parents drove me home for the first time in the front seat of the car  :tup there were no safety belts in most cars I was in until I was 15. (<---unheard-of in today's world) Worn one with every car ride since then.

a commercial - I remember this being on TV:

HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
What kind of kids love Ar-mour HOT DOGS?
Big kids, lit-tle kids, kids who climb on rocks
fat kids, skin-ny kids, ev-en kids with chicken pox
love HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
The dogs kids love to bite!

Oh. My...Could we EVER get away with that "fat kids, skinny kids" stuff today??   oh, and you know P.E.T.A. would be ALL OVER that last line :xbones :police: :\

oooo..... "It's Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!"  :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pErbVm-LGI

Toys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00WrgIdcio  
haven't seen an SSP in a very...long...time  :metal

I also remember saying "Cool". One word that's definitely stood the test of time.




I believe one of the original song lines was, "tough kids, sissy kids"
You know they wouldn't get away with that in this age of political correctness.

Its ironic isn't it ? We are clearly in an age of moral decay, yet the pulse seems to be on making sure you don't offend anyone. What a joke. :\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 20, 2009, 08:28:09 AM
another moldling checkin in with just a few jogs for memory...

for starters: My parents drove me home for the first time in the front seat of the car  :tup there were no safety belts in most cars I was in until I was 15. (<---unheard-of in today's world) Worn one with every car ride since then.

a commercial - I remember this being on TV:

HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
What kind of kids love Ar-mour HOT DOGS?
Big kids, lit-tle kids, kids who climb on rocks
fat kids, skin-ny kids, ev-en kids with chicken pox
love HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
The dogs kids love to bite!

Oh. My...Could we EVER get away with that "fat kids, skinny kids" stuff today??   oh, and you know P.E.T.A. would be ALL OVER that last line :xbones :police: :\

oooo..... "It's Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!"  :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pErbVm-LGI

Toys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00WrgIdcio  
haven't seen an SSP in a very...long...time  :metal

I also remember saying "Cool". One word that's definitely stood the test of time.




I believe one of the original song lines was, "tough kids, sissy kids"
You know they wouldn't get away with that in this age of political correctness.

Its ironic isn't it ? We are clearly in an age of moral decay, yet the pulse seems to be on making sure you don't offend anyone. What a joke. :\

Tick, If this line about moral decay doesn't reek of old mold, then I don't know was does!  Remember when you we're younger and your dad said lines like this and you laughed at your dad.  I think just like this now.  Oh crap!  I'm just like my dad!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 20, 2009, 09:42:20 AM
Does anyone remember Bigfoot & Wild Boy?

How about Isis?

Or Ultraman?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Volume92 on May 20, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
Does anyone remember Bigfoot & Wild Boy?

How about Isis?

Or Ultraman?

All 3..
I hated doing anything after school for fear of missing an Ultraman show.
Isis was one slice of cheese above ElectroWoman and DynaGirl. I'll be damned if that stopped me from watching every Saturday though :lol.
Also, Pink Panther cartoons were a huge deal in my house. :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 21, 2009, 04:16:08 AM
ugh i still hate the pink panther. it's on boomerang all the time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 21, 2009, 06:23:54 AM
The Mighty Herculese was my vice....I'm still trying to get my private torrent site to up it for me...someone has to have it. I have all of Ducktales, Pirates of Darkwater, all 96 -20 minute Transformer episodes and Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors. 80's Cartoons kicked serious ass.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 21, 2009, 06:46:17 AM
I always liked that cartoon called "The Tick" ! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 21, 2009, 07:03:22 AM
^^that cartoon had amazing lines^^


the villans were awesome....and the Tick's moustache episode....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 21, 2009, 07:49:08 AM
Did The Tick give people Lyme disease as his special power?

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DeanTheater on May 21, 2009, 07:52:22 AM
39 yrs of age on June 3rd.  You old F*&kers!!!


ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on May 21, 2009, 07:55:33 AM
HR Puffnstuff, Banana Splits, Wacky Racers, Thunderbirds  FTW
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 21, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
Did The Tick give people Lyme disease as his special power?

:neverusethis:
Nope. His power was the fact that he was MIGHTY ! :tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 21, 2009, 08:15:06 AM
I always liked that cartoon called "The Tick" ! :metal

Eat My Justice!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 21, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
I saw the list for the 6 cover songs and the old Moldies are gonna flip!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 22, 2009, 07:01:23 AM
another moldling checkin in with just a few jogs for memory...

for starters: My parents drove me home for the first time in the front seat of the car  :tup there were no safety belts in most cars I was in until I was 15. (<---unheard-of in today's world) Worn one with every car ride since then.

a commercial - I remember this being on TV:

HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
What kind of kids love Ar-mour HOT DOGS?
Big kids, lit-tle kids, kids who climb on rocks
fat kids, skin-ny kids, ev-en kids with chicken pox
love HOT DOGS, Ar-mour HOT DOGS
The dogs kids love to bite!

Oh. My...Could we EVER get away with that "fat kids, skinny kids" stuff today??   oh, and you know P.E.T.A. would be ALL OVER that last line :xbones :police: :\

oooo..... "It's Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!"  :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pErbVm-LGI

Toys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00WrgIdcio  
haven't seen an SSP in a very...long...time  :metal

I also remember saying "Cool". One word that's definitely stood the test of time.




I believe one of the original song lines was, "tough kids, sissy kids"
You know they wouldn't get away with that in this age of political correctness.

Its ironic isn't it ? We are clearly in an age of moral decay, yet the pulse seems to be on making sure you don't offend anyone. What a joke. :\

Tick, If this line about moral decay doesn't reek of old mold, then I don't know was does!  Remember when you we're younger and your dad said lines like this and you laughed at your dad.  I think just like this now.  Oh crap!  I'm just like my dad!
What can I say ? :tick: :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
Come on.  Someone give me some love for Jason of Star Command.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 22, 2009, 11:54:49 AM
just finished th first 4 days if detox...first 24 hourw okay  last 48 was a living hell...now it on to 90 meetings in 90 days outpatient
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 22, 2009, 11:58:45 AM
just finished th first 4 days if detox...first 24 hourw okay  last 48 was a living hell...now it on to 90 meetings in 90 days outpatient

Yay you're back! Been thinking about you :)

How are you feeling? I posted a thread about yuo sorta, look for the DTF dream thread... :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 22, 2009, 12:11:23 PM
just finished th first 4 days if detox...first 24 hourw okay  last 48 was a living hell...now it on to 90 meetings in 90 days outpatient
Don't suffer this angwish for naught ! Don't take no for an answer. Grow stronger one day at a time, and be proud. :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on May 22, 2009, 12:33:51 PM
very awesome wkiml... :tup :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on May 22, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
just finished th first 4 days if detox...first 24 hourw okay  last 48 was a living hell...now it on to 90 meetings in 90 days outpatient

Good luck man.   :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 22, 2009, 02:07:58 PM
just finished th first 4 days if detox...first 24 hourw okay  last 48 was a living hell...now it on to 90 meetings in 90 days outpatient

We are all pulling for you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: webpoet73 on May 22, 2009, 03:02:33 PM
Old as mold... I sure hope I don't smell that bad [sniffs and faints].  :facepalm:

I need a snack...  :corn Thanks!

You know 35 is the new 25... that's what I keep telling myself...!

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 23, 2009, 10:37:17 AM
Sing it with me moldies...

Digger the dog, Diggity goes with you, when you explore. Just pull his leash, and go for a walk, he's your dog for sure ! "Whats your dogs name ?" Digger ! :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2009, 06:34:15 PM
Commercial jingles ... "Almond Joy's got nuts .... Mounds don't".  (to the tune of Hot Dog by Zeppelin).

Cartoons ...

Battle of the Planets
Dungeons and Dragons (or the whole damn game for that matter)
Thundarr the Barbarian

Many, many more
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on May 23, 2009, 08:46:13 PM
yea sticking with 5 days sober so far  have to meet with s phsycologist Tuesday to find out that the underlying problem is that got me to the situation i was in
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 23, 2009, 09:12:42 PM
Battle of the Planets
:metal  G-Force!

What about Star Blazers?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on May 23, 2009, 09:17:55 PM
yea sticking with 5 days sober so far  have to meet with s phsycologist Tuesday to find out that the underlying problem is that got me to the situation i was in

that sounds like a great start
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 24, 2009, 05:39:26 AM
yea sticking with 5 days sober so far  have to meet with s phsycologist Tuesday to find out that the underlying problem is that got me to the situation i was in

Excellent :) :)

Five days.... that is a long time! Fantastic! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 24, 2009, 07:05:48 AM
Today My family celebrates my Mom's 63rd birthday. So today, even though she wont see this(no my mom doesn't rock to DT!) I want to wish here a happy birthday From her eldest modly son.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 24, 2009, 09:23:11 AM
:hat happy birthday to your mom.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 24, 2009, 09:25:15 AM
Who's having a birthday?



























your mom.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 24, 2009, 09:29:11 AM
:lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on May 24, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
I'm just relieved not to be gagged with a spoon anymore.

What do you prefer to be gagged with?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: VFS on May 24, 2009, 08:17:45 PM
I'm just relieved not to be gagged with a spoon anymore.

What do you prefer to be gagged with?

:eyebrows:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 24, 2009, 09:11:26 PM
Almost time to take my Prune juice and go to bed. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 27, 2009, 05:55:43 AM
Little bit hungover today. :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on May 27, 2009, 07:51:13 AM
Dude, you gotta cut back on the prune juice.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 27, 2009, 07:53:52 AM
hangovers do take longer to get over than they used to


there was a time...I could pound away with booze until the we hours of the morning.....wake up for a 6am shift at the local grocery store...down a litre of chocolate milk a bag of dill pickle chips and be good to go.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 27, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
hangovers do take longer to get over than they used to


there was a time...I could pound away with booze until the we hours of the morning.....wake up for a 6am shift at the local grocery store...down a litre of chocolate milk a bag of dill pickle chips and be good to go.
Those were the days.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on May 27, 2009, 11:18:43 AM
Had to get up early on Sat, fly from Nashville to San Diego and play a show.  Got 3 hours sleep before a 4 am lobby call, fly to Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and do a show Sunday night before flying back home Monday.  I slept 10 hours each of the last two nights and still feeling tired.  When I was in my 20s I could get about 3 hours of sleep a night for a week straight and recover with just one good nights sleep.  I'm getting too old to be traveling all the time like this. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on May 27, 2009, 11:31:17 AM
what happened to my old fogey club? :yarr
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2009, 11:36:03 AM
what happened to my old fogey club? :yarr

DTF crashed about a month ago, and all threads were lost.  This got re-branded the 'old as mold' club.  Wasn't the same without you though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on May 27, 2009, 11:47:36 AM
what happened to my old fogey club? :yarr

DTF crashed about a month ago, and all threads were lost.  This got re-branded the 'old as mold' club.  Wasn't the same without you though.
Ah, I have been away for too long. Nothing ever is the same after I leave it. :lol :rollin :xbones :yarr
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 27, 2009, 01:45:06 PM
what happened to my old fogey club? :yarr
I must say, being 44, I loved that thread ! When the site crashed, as you know, all was lost. I did want to rip off your title, but a old folks home is necessary on the board. Hope you don't mind being a moldie ?

By the way, tick here. Nice to meet ya pirate. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on May 27, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
I am honored to be a  Moldie . It's a pleasure to meet you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on May 27, 2009, 05:30:20 PM
pass the geritol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 27, 2009, 05:33:35 PM
pass the geritol

And the beer and the remote controler!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 27, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
pass the geritol
wash it down with the prune juice.
Being regular is good ! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: SinisterMinisterX on May 27, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
37 years old here. Someone get me my cane and my Viagra. (Not necessarily in that order.)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on May 27, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
How-do fellow fogies.  Just back from a trip that simultaneously makes me feel young again, and older than fucking dirt.  I accomplished things I'm surprised I could, and suffered horribly for it at times.  I guess it's what we all have to do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 27, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
How-do fellow fogies.  Just back from a trip that simultaneously makes me feel young again, and older than fucking dirt.  I accomplished things I'm surprised I could, and suffered horribly for it at times.  I guess it's what we all have to do.
Good to have ya back. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on May 31, 2009, 06:06:34 AM
morning moldies ! :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 31, 2009, 09:21:24 AM
Got up at 7am.  The wife made the coffee and as it just started to perculate(sp?) the power went out! So Throw a cap on, go to Dunkin Donuts and food shopping.  And as you can tell, the powers back on!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on May 31, 2009, 10:49:47 AM
  and as it just started to perculate(sp?) the power went out! 

Old Fogey metaphor?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on May 31, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
 :laugh:

Spent the weekend demo'g a good chunk of my main floor and basement.  Home renovations.  Good times.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on May 31, 2009, 05:46:59 PM
  and as it just started to perculate(sp?) the power went out! 

Old Fogey metaphor?

I perculate fine.  The coffee doesn't last as long as it used to! ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on May 31, 2009, 08:09:50 PM
  and as it just started to perculate(sp?) the power went out! 

Old Fogey metaphor?

I perculate fine.  The coffee doesn't last as long as it used to! ;)
:rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 05, 2009, 09:05:58 AM
Time to clean that glass you keep your false teeth in. Its just disgusting.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 08, 2009, 09:18:33 AM
3 weeks sober today and its really fu*king up my sleep patterns, took the kids to Hurricane Harbor ( those not familair its a six flags water park) my body hurts in places i didnt know exist, not to mention the wicked sunburn
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 08, 2009, 09:29:06 AM
3 weeks sober today and its really fu*king up my sleep patterns, took the kids to Hurricane Harbor ( those not familair its a six flags water park) my body hurts in places i didnt know exist, not to mention the wicked sunburn
Hang in there wkimi ! Its worth it.
Did you ride some coasters ? :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on June 08, 2009, 09:58:11 AM
3 weeks sober today and its really fu*king up my sleep patterns, took the kids to Hurricane Harbor ( those not familair its a six flags water park) my body hurts in places i didnt know exist, not to mention the wicked sunburn
I'd been meaning to inquire.  WTG.  Is the shrink helping you at all?

Try melatonin.  It's not much use as a sleeping pill, but it's great for normalizing sleep patterns.  Sobriety has been known to fuck up peoples sleep, and melatonin is perfect for that sort of thing.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 08, 2009, 10:43:41 AM
3 weeks sober today and its really fu*king up my sleep patterns, took the kids to Hurricane Harbor ( those not familair its a six flags water park) my body hurts in places i didnt know exist, not to mention the wicked sunburn
I'd been meaning to inquire.  WTG.  Is the shrink helping you at all?

Try melatonin.  It's not much use as a sleeping pill, but it's great for normalizing sleep patterns.  Sobriety has been known to fuck up peoples sleep, and melatonin is perfect for that sort of thing.




no shrink involved just organized group meetings twice a week, kind of like AA but with a counselor running the show, I've also attended a few AA meetings on my own locally just to get an idea of what to expect after the outpatient program ends....I'm just glad I realised my errors and was able to get help when i did...I listen to some of these people who have been abusing for years even decades alot of them have whats called wet brain syndrome, they have drank so much they have done permenant damage to the brains...one guy swore his dog commited suicide because of his drinking
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2009, 10:49:53 AM
Congrats to you sir.   :tup  Keep at it.  The old fogey club is rooting and here for ya
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on June 08, 2009, 12:09:28 PM
...one guy swore his dog commited suicide because of his drinking
Wow.  Did the dog use a gun?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 08, 2009, 12:27:34 PM
...one guy swore his dog commited suicide because of his drinking
Wow.  Did the dog use a gun?

I didn't ask and honestly didnt want too know
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on June 08, 2009, 07:24:18 PM
that is awesome to hear, man.... :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 09, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
that is awesome to hear, man.... :tup


Thanks just got a call from the counselor who runs the group sessions seems my insurance will not pick up the coverage for the meetings unless I have a Psych test done  I guess they think I'm crazy.....who said that????? I see you over there!!! they're all watching me
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 09, 2009, 08:05:41 AM
that is awesome to hear, man.... :tup


Thanks just got a call from the counselor who runs the group sessions seems my insurance will not pick up the coverage for the meetings unless I have a Psych test done  I guess they think I'm crazy.....who said that????? I see you over there!!! they're all watching me
Nah, they don't think your nuts. They just want you to jump through hoops to get the necessary care.  Its complete bullshit, but thats how insurance companys work. Its a power trip. Pay for your coverage, then fight your ass off when you need to use it. I fought for a year to get a shoulder surgery. I put up with pain 24/7 untill they finally gave in.
Have fun with the psych test. Show them the true meaning of nuts ! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on June 09, 2009, 08:22:01 AM
that is awesome to hear, man.... :tup


Thanks just got a call from the counselor who runs the group sessions seems my insurance will not pick up the coverage for the meetings unless I have a Psych test done  I guess they think I'm crazy.....who said that????? I see you over there!!! they're all watching me
Definitely do your research.  Find out exactly what they're wanting to ascertain.  I always assume insurance companies are trying to weasel out of their obligations.  Make absolutely sure you don't inadvertently provide them with one by coming across too sane or squirrelly, whichever they're looking for. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: millahh on June 09, 2009, 08:27:35 AM

Have fun with the psych test. Show them the true meaning of nuts ! :tup

If he whips them out, he might get more than just rehab covered...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on June 11, 2009, 12:06:26 PM
wkiml... I second the melatonin suggestion for sleep problems.  Perfectly natural and not really a drug.  Just promotes good, restful sleep.  My wife is a nurse and always scrutinizes everything and we both take it before bed each night.  Never slept better.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 11, 2009, 12:13:04 PM
To the gentlemen suggesting the melatonin is this an over the counter med or do I need a prescription....went to my IOP meeting last night...I thought i had problems, shit my day is a walk in the park for the majority that was there


Also I suffer from moderate sleep apnea which is why my doctor will not prescribe a sleep aid
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 12, 2009, 07:23:36 AM
To the gentlemen suggesting the melatonin is this an over the counter med or do I need a prescription....went to my IOP meeting last night...I thought i had problems, shit my day is a walk in the park for the majority that was there


Also I suffer from moderate sleep apnea which is why my doctor will not prescribe a sleep aid
Whats the hardest thing about staying clean for you wkimi ?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on June 12, 2009, 08:05:05 AM
To the gentlemen suggesting the melatonin is this an over the counter med or do I need a prescription....went to my IOP meeting last night...I thought i had problems, shit my day is a walk in the park for the majority that was there


Also I suffer from moderate sleep apnea which is why my doctor will not prescribe a sleep aid
It's a supplement.  It doesn't do anything to make you tired.  It merely chills out the squirrels in your head.  Melatonin (https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/tc/melatonin-overview) 
However, if your Doc has a reason for keeping you off downers, you should certainly check with him first. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 12, 2009, 08:42:14 AM
To the gentlemen suggesting the melatonin is this an over the counter med or do I need a prescription....went to my IOP meeting last night...I thought i had problems, shit my day is a walk in the park for the majority that was there


Also I suffer from moderate sleep apnea which is why my doctor will not prescribe a sleep aid
Whats the hardest thing about staying clean for you wkimi ?

Right now I have zero cravings after the detox...but I have to be careful of what they call stress breakers something that may happen out of the blue that makes me go back, this is part of the IOP program how to recognize them and how to avoid the bottle when it happens ...besides I've been filling my free time in the  evenings which I used to spend drinking either walking the boardwalk ( I live 5 blocks from the beach) or just going down to the lake and doing some fishing


I read up on the Melatonin its seems to bring upon sleepiness ...I'll check with the doctor, he didn't want to prescribe anything that may put me out were as the apnea will not wake me back up
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on June 12, 2009, 11:39:50 AM
Definitely check with your Dr but I can't believe he wouldn't let you take it unless you're already on another sleep aid.  Its totally natural supplement and comes in different sizes... I take 3 mg orally and my wife takes 2 mg sub-lingual (dissolves under the tongue).  The sub-lingual seems to help her fall asleep quickly (15-20 min) where as the pill I swallow is more slow release and lasts more effectively through the night.  Don't know how it interacts with sleep apnea... most definitely check with the doc. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 19, 2009, 08:31:55 AM
Glucosomine helps with creaky bones ! Take one 1500 mg tab a day. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 19, 2009, 08:35:30 AM
I have no problem falling asleep its staying asleep that is killing me....before with the apnea and drinking I was probably waking up as often but just didn't realise it because i was so drunk I would roll over and fall back to sleep, now that i'm not frinking i'm waking every 10-15 minutes through the night, if i get lucky i might get one or two 40 minutes stretchs during the night.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on June 19, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
That definitely sucks.  I've had nights like that and you feel like you're not really sleeping at all because you wake too frequently.  It's miserable.  Did you check with your Dr about the melatonin?

@Tick...  I take glucosamine/chondroitin tabs during periods when my arthritis in my knees is bugging me.  I'm grateful that my arthritis is nowhere near as bad for me as it was for my Mom at this age.  She was on gold shots for years...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Serpentor on June 19, 2009, 09:50:24 AM
I take gluco sulfate.

Also, in my old age, I don't care about getting a record on it's release date which is why I am content to wait a few days to have Amazon ship BC&SL to me....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on June 19, 2009, 10:01:47 AM
hey wkiml, sorry to hear that.  certainly doesn't it make it any easier, but it will get better over time
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 19, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
hey wkiml, sorry to hear that.  certainly doesn't it make it any easier, but it will get better over time
'


On the plus side i have lost 28 lbs since i stopped drinking ...one month sobriety yesterday....the more I lose the less the apnea should bother me
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: yeshaberto on June 19, 2009, 12:43:31 PM
hey wkiml, sorry to hear that.  certainly doesn't it make it any easier, but it will get better over time
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On the plus side i have lost 28 lbs since i stopped drinking ...one month sobriety yesterday....the more I lose the less the apnea should bother me

that is an awesome plus...and congrats!!!

it was interesting because yesterday I was at the beach and saw a guy who I was at the rehab with (20 plus years ago) who was the first one I relapsed with back then...he practically looked homeless.  nice reminder why I got back on the wagon (or off the wagon  :biggrin:)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on June 19, 2009, 02:13:13 PM
To the gentlemen suggesting the melatonin is this an over the counter med or do I need a prescription....went to my IOP meeting last night...I thought i had problems, shit my day is a walk in the park for the majority that was there


Also I suffer from moderate sleep apnea which is why my doctor will not prescribe a sleep aid

I have sleep apnea wkimi and force your doctor to send you for a sleep evaluation. It's not fun but it will tell you what you wan't to know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 19, 2009, 02:32:36 PM
To the gentlemen suggesting the melatonin is this an over the counter med or do I need a prescription....went to my IOP meeting last night...I thought i had problems, shit my day is a walk in the park for the majority that was there


Also I suffer from moderate sleep apnea which is why my doctor will not prescribe a sleep aid

I have sleep apnea wkimi and force your doctor to send you for a sleep evaluation. It's not fun but it will tell you what you wan't to know.


I've taken 3 sleep studies and have moderate ( just below extreme sleep apnea) but I am C-pap intolarant  cant take the constant air blowing in my face, I've been to a couple of throat specialists also to talk about surguries but the bottom line they all said is lose weight and the sleep apnea should lessen

As i mentioned earlier I have lost 28 lbs and have started an exercise program ( light ) as i have problems with my knees from carrying so much weight for so long  I walk about a mile and a half each night and have started a diet program so the weight should continue to come off just not as quickly

There is another machine that actually regulates itself as you breathe during the night delivering just the right pressure needed depending on what stage of sleep you are in, but my insurance will not cover it due to the expense $1200-$1500
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on June 19, 2009, 02:48:04 PM
You're just over a month into this, and it sounds like you're making very good headway.  Since you're obviously committed to getting better, I suspect that after six months you'll be a helluva lot healthier.  That probably will alleviate most of your problems. 

One thing I've noticed with taking melatonin is that I'll still wake up in the middle of the night, but I can usually fall right back asleep.  Before, I'd often spend 45 minutes trying to get back to sleep.  That really sucks. 

Don't know if this has come up yet, but I found that taking an interest in cooking was one of the most important steps in my getting healthier.  We Americans mostly eat shit.  Eating decent, home cooked food is crucial.  No unhealthy chemicals.  Much less cholesterol.  A fraction of the sodium.  Plus, it's an hour in the evening doing something productive. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 19, 2009, 06:59:21 PM
You're just over a month into this, and it sounds like you're making very good headway.  Since you're obviously committed to getting better, I suspect that after six months you'll be a helluva lot healthier.  That probably will alleviate most of your problems. 

One thing I've noticed with taking melatonin is that I'll still wake up in the middle of the night, but I can usually fall right back asleep.  Before, I'd often spend 45 minutes trying to get back to sleep.  That really sucks. 

Don't know if this has come up yet, but I found that taking an interest in cooking was one of the most important steps in my getting healthier.  We Americans mostly eat shit.  Eating decent, home cooked food is crucial.  No unhealthy chemicals.  Much less cholesterol.  A fraction of the sodium.  Plus, it's an hour in the evening doing something productive. 

I love to cook and usually spend a big portion of my weekend doing just that...than storing it in the frig for the week so when I come home i just have to heat it up
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 21, 2009, 09:16:02 AM
Happy fathers day moldies ! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on June 21, 2009, 10:10:30 AM
Happy Father's day DTF Dads!    :millahhhh
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 25, 2009, 10:58:37 AM
OLD Fogeys time to get out our Old Farrah Posters you know the ones seems she passed today at age 62

RIP
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on June 25, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
I know the one you're talking about but my parents wouldn't let me have it.  The passing of an icon...   :'(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on June 25, 2009, 01:40:59 PM
I know the one you're talking about but my parents wouldn't let me have it.  The passing of an icon...   :'(

I can remember I must have been 12 or 13 and my Mom asking me what I wanted for Christmas...I told all I wanted was Farrah, they could keep everything else just get me Farrah
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on June 25, 2009, 01:42:34 PM
Damn.  Bummer.

And not just because she was hot, but because.... um... okay, I guess it's just because she was hot.  Sorry.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on June 25, 2009, 03:20:03 PM
OLD Fogeys time to get out our Old Farrah Posters you know the ones seems she passed today at age 62

RIP
:sad:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on June 25, 2009, 04:08:00 PM
(https://afod.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/farrah.jpg)

Interesting.  There are apparently a number of "alternate poses" from that shoot:

(https://www.alternativehealthjournal.com/img/upload/farrah-fawcett0.jpg)

(https://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/nbc_doc.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: DTBiker on June 25, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
I like the one in the nipple.  I mean middle.   :blush
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 07, 2009, 10:07:13 AM
Old fogeys rise from the ashes and be free of formaldehyde ! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on July 07, 2009, 12:14:18 PM
that last one works for me
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on July 07, 2009, 01:12:23 PM
Shit, I feel younger just reading this thread! ;D

Actually, just reading the exchange with wki and bart. The whole eating healthier thing is for real. My wife is currently reading Jillian Michael's Master Your Metabolism. Lots of good info, especially for a diebetic..like me!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on July 24, 2009, 07:45:55 AM
As posted in the funny pics thread, figured I might as well cross reference it here, since most of you will likely be the only ones who'll "get it".

(https://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/guitarcozmo/barthmotivator.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 24, 2009, 08:54:38 AM
Split wood yesterday and stacked it.  I'm feeling it today.  Thank god I'm on vacation. I'm a little creeky today.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 24, 2009, 11:16:37 AM
Gonna sleep in tomorrow morning, for the first time in a month.  Yeah, baby!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 24, 2009, 11:46:21 AM
Gonna sleep in tomorrow morning, for the first time in a month.  Yeah, baby!
Every time I make that statement, I'm still up by 8 in the morning. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 24, 2009, 02:40:40 PM
Yeah, me too.  Fucking lawn people with four mowers going at once > ear plugs.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 24, 2009, 02:44:30 PM
Gonna sleep in tomorrow morning, for the first time in a month.  Yeah, baby!
Every time I make that statement, I'm still up by 8 in the morning. :biggrin:

I'm in the same boat.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 27, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
I love this thread because here I feel safe and secure of discussions about video game.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 27, 2009, 02:24:16 PM
Gonna sleep in tomorrow morning, for the first time in a month.  Yeah, baby!
Every time I make that statement, I'm still up by 8 in the morning. :biggrin:

I made to 10:15, which was pretty good.  Had to pee.  At that point I was up, but hey, sleeping past 10 is great.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 27, 2009, 04:21:58 PM
Gonna sleep in tomorrow morning, for the first time in a month.  Yeah, baby!
Every time I make that statement, I'm still up by 8 in the morning. :biggrin:

I made to 10:15, which was pretty good.  Had to pee.  At that point I was up, but hey, sleeping past 10 is great.
I'm impressed ! Its always that blatter that ends it at some point. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 17, 2009, 08:59:33 AM
Any fogeys still alive out there ?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on August 17, 2009, 11:25:01 AM
Any fogeys still alive out there ?

still breathing if that counts
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 17, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
Any fogeys still alive out there ?

still breathing if that counts
Judges ?........DING !

YES ! the judges say breathing is an acceptable answer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on August 17, 2009, 11:57:43 AM
Another "old fogey" thing. 

I wanted it to rain this weekend.  My lawn was starting to look like hell, and I was gonna get out the sprinklers like three times in the past month, but they kept saying we were gonna get rain, so I held off.  Then we'd get scatterred showers that didn't do shit. Friday night I got home and saw my lawn was basically brown, and I said "fuck, I have to water this weekend if we don't get at least a couple hours of good solid rain."

We got it Sunday afternoon.  I napped for three hours (yes!) listening to the wonderful sounds of thunderstorms and prog music.  It rained a lot overnight as well.  My lawn is saved and I didn't have to do any actual yard work.  Double Win!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 17, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
Another "old fogey" thing. 

I wanted it to rain this weekend.  My lawn was starting to look like hell, and I was gonna get out the sprinklers like three times in the past month, but they kept saying we were gonna get rain, so I held off.  Then we'd get scatterred showers that didn't do shit. Friday night I got home and saw my lawn was basically brown, and I said "fuck, I have to water this weekend if we don't get at least a couple hours of good solid rain."

We got it Sunday afternoon.  I napped for three hours (yes!) listening to the wonderful sounds of thunderstorms and prog music.  It rained a lot overnight as well.  My lawn is saved and I didn't have to do any actual yard work.  Double Win!!
I live in Connecticut and we have had so much rain this Summer, my grass is Green and lush. I have never seen grass like this in August. Its literally all I can do to wait a week before each cut. That's how fast the grass is growing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on August 17, 2009, 01:00:07 PM
Summers here in Chicago vary a lot from year to year, in terms of rain.  Usually, though, everyone's lawns are getting pretty brown by late summer.  But I hate that; it looks like shit.  Plus, we just had all new sod laid two years ago.  I didn't pay for all new grass just to watch it die.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 17, 2009, 01:13:33 PM
Summers here in Chicago vary a lot from year to year, in terms of rain.  Usually, though, everyone's lawns are getting pretty brown by late summer.  But I hate that; it looks like shit.  Plus, we just had all new sod laid two years ago.  I didn't pay for all new grass just to watch it die.
It won't die. It will come back.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on August 17, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
Yeah, eventually.  But it'll be undead zombie grass, which could attack and kill people.  It would be bad enough if it got one of my kids, but if it took out the mailman or something, I could get sued, and that would really suck.  I can't risk that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 17, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
Yeah, eventually.  But it'll be undead zombie grass, which could attack and kill people.  It would be bad enough if it got one of my kids, but if it took out the mailman or something, I could get sued, and that would really suck.  I can't risk that.
A Sy fY original motion picture. This Saturday night at 9, only on... Sy Fy ! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on August 17, 2009, 02:50:04 PM
Greetings fellow old farts.  I am quickly zeroing in on the big 40(less than three weeks now), and would love to hear any quips of advice or info from the small handful of people on the DTF who have passed this grand milestone.
Also, out of personal curiosity, I wonder who the grand old man of the forum is.  I saw one reference in a post that revealed a 45 year old, but haven't seen any older.  Any takers on the DTF Grand Poobah title.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on August 17, 2009, 04:44:45 PM
I just turned 47, but I thought there were at least a few guys here older than me.  My memory is slipping, though, so I can't be sure.  :lol

As for advice, just be aware that yes, your body is not the finely tuned machine that it was in your youth (if it ever was) and there are things that will not be as easy as before.  For most people, the obvious one is the eyes.  Statistically, your 40's are when your eyes most commonly start to go, and in general when you start to feel the effects of all the stupid shit you did to your body when you were younger and thought yourself immortal and indestructable.

This is made up for by the fact that, contrary to what young people believe, older folks really do know and understand a lot more.  Some call this "wisdom".  The bummer is that young people don't believe it.  My teenaged son, for example, cannot accept the idea that someone who's walked the earth three times as long as he has would actually know better, about anything.  It seems that every day I find something new that I could kick myself over.  "If only I'd known this when I was younger..."  But I'm not, and you don't get to go through it all a second time, so the best I can hope for is to pass on what I've learned.  But my idiot son will have none of it.  Makes me feel pretty useless.  Typically I yell at everyone for a while, then crank the stereo really loud.  Then I feel better.  If they don't like it, they can leave.  My house, my stereo, my rules. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on August 17, 2009, 05:17:45 PM
Gracias.  I'm already feeling the "body turning to shit" stuff and agree with you 100% on the wisdom part. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and though she is a very good kid, I still can't get messages some pearls of wisdom through to her. A classic line I remember from Star Trek is "wisdom is the difference between knowledge and experience."  Anyhow, thank you, only three weeks to the top of the hill.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on August 17, 2009, 06:05:59 PM
I just turned 47, but I thought there were at least a few guys here older than me.  My memory is slipping, though, so I can't be sure.  :lol

As for advice, just be aware that yes, your body is not the finely tuned machine that it was in your youth (if it ever was) and there are things that will not be as easy as before.  For most people, the obvious one is the eyes.  Statistically, your 40's are when your eyes most commonly start to go, and in general when you start to feel the effects of all the stupid shit you did to your body when you were younger and thought yourself immortal and indestructable.

This is made up for by the fact that, contrary to what young people believe, older folks really do know and understand a lot more.  Some call this "wisdom".  The bummer is that young people don't believe it.  My teenaged son, for example, cannot accept the idea that someone who's walked the earth three times as long as he has would actually know better, about anything.  It seems that every day I find something new that I could kick myself over.  "If only I'd known this when I was younger..."  But I'm not, and you don't get to go through it all a second time, so the best I can hope for is to pass on what I've learned.  But my idiot son will have none of it.  Makes me feel pretty useless.  Typically I yell at everyone for a while, then crank the stereo really loud.  Then I feel better.  If they don't like it, they can leave.  My house, my stereo, my rules. 


Yea Orbert has me by 2 years but pretty much all he said....my body is in revolt for all the things I did to it when I was younger...my knees creek...my eyes are going ( although its not that bad a thing, some girls/ladies I would have turned my nose up on years ago...now look much more attractive...its that airbrush effect ( slightly blurred) ) My kids are at the point that they know everything, so now I just sit back watch them f*ck up and tell them told you so..if you would have listened to me that wouldn't have happened..Plus I get called "sir" alot now its actually quite nice
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on August 18, 2009, 10:25:03 AM
Hey, here's an advantage that doesn't get enough appreciation:  There are some women in their 30's, 40', maybe even older, that I know I wouldn't have looked at twice if I were younger, who now look pretty damned good.  There might be some airbrush effect going on, but at my age, a 30something babe is still quite a bit younger than me, and still qualifies as a "babe" to me.

So basically, those hot college girls still look good, and so do their older sisters, and some of their moms, too.  There's more to love and appreciate!  The scope has been broadened, range has been widened, whatever you call it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on August 18, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
I've noticed that the term "cougar" has, in the last couple years, been replaced by ,"chicks my age", and the cougars now reside in the 50 range.( which, by the way, is a very sexy class of women).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 18, 2009, 11:57:40 AM
I've noticed that the term "cougar" has, in the last couple years, been replaced by ,"chicks my age", and the cougars now reside in the 50 range.( which, by the way, is a very sexy class of women).
I'm 44 and the older I get, the more it all looks good to me. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on August 18, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Gracias.  I'm already feeling the "body turning to shit" stuff and agree with you 100% on the wisdom part. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and though she is a very good kid, I still can't get messages some pearls of wisdom through to her. A classic line I remember from Star Trek is "wisdom is the difference between knowledge and experience."  Anyhow, thank you, only three weeks to the top of the hill.
I've always considered wisdom to be the product of knowledge and experience.

I still look 10 years younger than I am so I never get called sir.  Hadn't thought about it before, but it might be kinda nice. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on August 18, 2009, 12:12:21 PM
Gracias.  I'm already feeling the "body turning to shit" stuff and agree with you 100% on the wisdom part. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and though she is a very good kid, I still can't get messages some pearls of wisdom through to her. A classic line I remember from Star Trek is "wisdom is the difference between knowledge and experience."  Anyhow, thank you, only three weeks to the top of the hill.
I've always considered wisdom to be the product of knowledge and experience.

I still look 10 years younger than I am so I never get called sir.  Hadn't thought about it before, but it might be kinda nice. 
You may have a point, but , on the other hand, I've met some true dumbasses who were very wise.  There is something to be said for life experience.  And I don't know if I will ever get used to being called sir, I always look around for my father when it happens, :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on August 18, 2009, 12:15:02 PM
Gracias.  I'm already feeling the "body turning to shit" stuff and agree with you 100% on the wisdom part. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and though she is a very good kid, I still can't get messages some pearls of wisdom through to her. A classic line I remember from Star Trek is "wisdom is the difference between knowledge and experience."  Anyhow, thank you, only three weeks to the top of the hill.
I've always considered wisdom to be the product of knowledge and experience.

I still look 10 years younger than I am so I never get called sir.  Hadn't thought about it before, but it might be kinda nice. 
You may have a point, but , on the other hand, I've met some true dumbasses who were very wise.  There is something to be said for life experience.  And I don't know if I will ever get used to being called sir, I always look around for my father when it happens, :biggrin:

There's book smart and street smart.  Some have one, some have both or a mix and some have neither!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on August 18, 2009, 12:33:50 PM
Gracias.  I'm already feeling the "body turning to shit" stuff and agree with you 100% on the wisdom part. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and though she is a very good kid, I still can't get messages some pearls of wisdom through to her. A classic line I remember from Star Trek is "wisdom is the difference between knowledge and experience."  Anyhow, thank you, only three weeks to the top of the hill.
I've always considered wisdom to be the product of knowledge and experience.

I still look 10 years younger than I am so I never get called sir.  Hadn't thought about it before, but it might be kinda nice. 
You may have a point, but , on the other hand, I've met some true dumbasses who were very wise.  There is something to be said for life experience.  And I don't know if I will ever get used to being called sir, I always look around for my father when it happens, :biggrin:

There's book smart and street smart.  Some have one, some have both or a mix and some have neither!
Why do I keep running into the "neithers"?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on August 18, 2009, 12:47:23 PM
Gracias.  I'm already feeling the "body turning to shit" stuff and agree with you 100% on the wisdom part. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and though she is a very good kid, I still can't get messages some pearls of wisdom through to her. A classic line I remember from Star Trek is "wisdom is the difference between knowledge and experience."  Anyhow, thank you, only three weeks to the top of the hill.
I've always considered wisdom to be the product of knowledge and experience.

I still look 10 years younger than I am so I never get called sir.  Hadn't thought about it before, but it might be kinda nice. 
You may have a point, but , on the other hand, I've met some true dumbasses who were very wise.  There is something to be said for life experience.  And I don't know if I will ever get used to being called sir, I always look around for my father when it happens, :biggrin:
I love when the younger generation show some respect. It so rare these days.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Colorado Snowdog on August 18, 2009, 02:29:19 PM
Old N00b here, reporting for duty.  Big DT fan, yet old enough to remember seeing Rush on the FTK tour in '77.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on August 18, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
Welcome to the club!

Hemispheres was my first, so you beat me by one year, and one tour.  Damn you!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Colorado Snowdog on August 18, 2009, 04:08:14 PM
Welcome to the club!

Hemispheres was my first, so you beat me by one year, and one tour.  Damn you!

Thank you!  (happily welcomed and damned)  If I recall that 1977 show accurately, Uriah Heep opened for them and I paid $7 for the ticket.  Show was at the Auditorium Arena in Denver.  I'm happy that I actually got to see shows like that and Zeppelin in my youth.  The younger set have, IMO, weaker, more mainstream 'pop' talent to point to as their first shows.  I nice exception to this rule are bands like DT and a few others holding the line on musicianship, writing, performance, originality, etc.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on August 18, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
Where abouts in Colorado?  I'm a big fan of the place. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Colorado Snowdog on August 18, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
Colorado Springs area.  Been in the state since '68.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on August 18, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
Old N00b here, reporting for duty.  Big DT fan, yet old enough to remember seeing Rush on the FTK tour in '77.

Another older Rush fan on the DTF.  Welcome!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on August 18, 2009, 04:23:26 PM
Close enough to catch shows in Denver, but far enough away to not have to be in Denver.   :tup  Driven through CS a few times, but only stopped in once to see that big-ass waterfall.  The drive up to the falls was 10x better than the falls themselves. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Colorado Snowdog on August 18, 2009, 04:32:18 PM
Another older Rush fan on the DTF.  Welcome!

Thank you Sir.  Good to be here.

Close enough to catch shows in Denver, but far enough away to not have to be in Denver.   :tup  Driven through CS a few times, but only stopped in once to see that big-ass waterfall.  The drive up to the falls was 10x better than the falls themselves. 

Exactly.  I grew up in the Denver area and I work there now, but glad to be living where I do.  I think you are talking about Seven Falls - yes, quite the tourist trap.  There are many better places to visit in the Pikes Peak area, methinks.


Want to give a shout out to millahh.  Nice avatar!  I'm a huge jazz fan too (listen, study, play).  Coltrane is a fave as well as Metheny and others.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 08, 2009, 09:10:40 AM
Too much alcohol consumption on Saturday and Sunday. I'm still feeling the effects. I just can't drink like I used to without paying for it big time. :P :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 08, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
About to get older.  *shudders*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: millahh on September 08, 2009, 09:45:30 AM

Want to give a shout out to millahh.  Nice avatar!  I'm a huge jazz fan too (listen, study, play).  Coltrane is a fave as well as Metheny and others.

The coltrane avatr has become so synonymous with me that I even have my own smiley because of it:

 :millahhhh

(though that's really more of a Miles than a 'trane).

What do you play?  I played double bass in combos and bigger bands in college.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 08, 2009, 09:55:42 AM
About to get older.  *shudders*
Its better then the alternative.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on September 08, 2009, 10:13:56 AM
all my friends just hit 35.......I'm the last of the 34 year olds........the end is near.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Serpentor on September 08, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Visited my old college town over the weekend, seeing the young kids made me feel really old.

Also, we did a couple other day trips over the long weekend with the family which led to lots of walking and carrying my 34lb daughter.  My knees have been killing me for 2 days now. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 08, 2009, 10:50:49 AM
all my friends just hit 35.......I'm the last of the 34 year olds........the end is near.
All my friends have turned at least 45. I'm the last of the 44 year olds.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on September 08, 2009, 12:10:53 PM
I turn 40 in thirteen hours, and the end is a long, long away. :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on September 08, 2009, 12:18:59 PM
Friday I get to see a joint (knee/ankle specialist) to find out why my knees are so screwed up..ahhh..growing old and the many visits to the doctors gives me something to look forward too...you know you've been going to often when the entire office knows your name
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on September 08, 2009, 12:31:22 PM
Friday I get to see a joint (knee/ankle specialist) to find out why my knees are so screwed up..ahhh..growing old and the many visits to the doctors gives me something to look forward too...you know you've been going to often when the entire office knows your name
You also know that as often as you go, the joints keep getting worse.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 08, 2009, 03:58:17 PM
I'm fat, broke, my knee it clicking, heartburn, can't sleep more than 6 hours but you know me, I can't complain. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on September 09, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
So, today I turned 40.  I felt this was the appropriate place to state this.  I called my dad and asked about the secret over 40 handshake, but he pretended like nothing was going on.  Any advice from the small handfull ov vets older than me.....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 09, 2009, 12:41:10 PM
So, today I turned 40.  I felt this was the appropriate place to state this.  I called my dad and asked about the secret over 40 handshake, but he pretended like nothing was going on.  Any advice from the small handfull ov vets older than me.....
Forget your 40 and move on. Its not that big a deal. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on September 09, 2009, 12:49:14 PM
So, today I turned 40.  I felt this was the appropriate place to state this.  I called my dad and asked about the secret over 40 handshake, but he pretended like nothing was going on.  Any advice from the small handfull ov vets older than me.....
Forget your 40 and move on. Its not that big a deal. :tup
I completly agree.  I tripped about it the last couple weeks, but woke up today, had my morning constitutional, and realized nothing changes, it just matures.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Icebear on September 10, 2009, 07:55:08 AM
Proud (and new) member of the club here. No aches and pains yet.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on September 10, 2009, 11:19:37 AM
Don't worry, they'll arrive soon enough.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 10, 2009, 05:42:40 PM
Don't worry, they'll arrive soon enough.
True dat !
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 10, 2009, 05:55:25 PM
Don't worry, they'll arrive soon enough.
True dat !

Hey! Hey! Hey!!! tick!  Nothing hip should be typed in this post!  You response should be,  "That is so true"! ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Icebear on September 12, 2009, 06:48:51 AM
So, when can I expect said pains?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 12, 2009, 06:54:50 AM
Don't worry, they'll arrive soon enough.
True dat !

Hey! Hey! Hey!!! tick!  Nothing hip should be typed in this post!  You response should be,  "That is so true"! ;)
Your absolutely right. My bad...I mean my apologies. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2009, 01:50:25 PM
Don't worry, they'll arrive soon enough.
True dat !

Hey! Hey! Hey!!! tick!  Nothing hip should be typed in this post!  You response should be,  "That is so true"! ;)
Your absolutely right. My bad...I mean my apologies. :facepalm:

Actually he said dat true as he fumbled with his dentures! Then reversed the words when his dyslexia kicked in.  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on September 12, 2009, 03:44:04 PM
Friday I get to see a joint (knee/ankle specialist) to find out why my knees are so screwed up..ahhh..growing old and the many visits to the doctors gives me something to look forward too...you know you've been going to often when the entire office knows your name
You also know that as often as you go, the joints keep getting worse.

well news was not encouraging...have a partial tear of the meniscus in the right knee and a partial tear of the MCL in the left...two surguries... means some quality time on the coach away from work, guess its not all bad
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on September 12, 2009, 04:28:22 PM
So, when can I expect said pains?

It's different for everyone, but as was pointed out upthread, most people agree that it's in your 40's when you start feeling all the effects of what you did to your body when you were younger, and start to notice that you're just not as young, quick, and sharp as you used to be. 

Most people who never wore glasses before end up at least getting reading glasses in their 40's.  The 40's is also when you first really notice that it's tougher to keep the pounds off; you can't eat like you used to and just metabolize it anymore, because your metabolism is slowing down.  That's why people in general start getting fat as they get older (that and the fact that most can afford more and better food, but don't shake the habit of eating everything in sight, given the chance).  That kind of thing. 

Plus, it's around now that if you had even a minor injury when you were younger, banged your knee on something, for example, it really starts to bug you now.  Sometimes.

But remember, people didn't even used to live to 40 most of the time.  George Carlin said that cancer, liver disease, heart failure, high cholesterol, all those horrible diseases... we used to have a cure for them.  It was called "death".  Modern science has enabled us to live well past the age we used to, but evolution hasn't caught up yet.  So we live in bodies where things are starting to break down and not work right anymore.  But it still beats the alternative.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Icebear on September 12, 2009, 04:33:22 PM
That'll give me just about 10 years to build up before the inevitable decline...

I definitely enjoy being in my 30's, though. I suspect they will be a lot more enjoyable than my 20's.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on September 12, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
Friday I get to see a joint (knee/ankle specialist) to find out why my knees are so screwed up..ahhh..growing old and the many visits to the doctors gives me something to look forward too...you know you've been going to often when the entire office knows your name
You also know that as often as you go, the joints keep getting worse.

well news was not encouraging...have a partial tear of the meniscus in the right knee and a partial tear of the MCL in the left...two surguries... means some quality time on the coach away from work, guess its not all bad

Don't know if it'll make you feel any better, but it doesn't necessarily seem like "old fart" related issues, but rather something specific that happened.  And, if you rehab properly, you'll damn feel better once it's done.

I been meaning to ask how things are going with your lifestyle issues.  Haven't heard any updates, but I've assumed that no news worth reporting is good news. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2009, 10:35:52 AM


Don't know if it'll make you feel any better, but it doesn't necessarily seem like "old fart" related issues, but rather something specific that happened.  And, if you rehab properly, you'll damn feel better once it's done.

I been meaning to ask how things are going with your lifestyle issues.  Haven't heard any updates, but I've assumed that no news worth reporting is good news. 

Nah..I'm pretty sure they're "old fart" issues...

Yeah wki, any updates. I noticed the line "away from work"..did you find a job?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on September 13, 2009, 03:40:30 PM


Don't know if it'll make you feel any better, but it doesn't necessarily seem like "old fart" related issues, but rather something specific that happened.  And, if you rehab properly, you'll damn feel better once it's done.

I been meaning to ask how things are going with your lifestyle issues.  Haven't heard any updates, but I've assumed that no news worth reporting is good news. 

Nah..I'm pretty sure they're "old fart" issues...

Yeah wki, any updates. I noticed the line "away from work"..did you find a job?

Barto  clean and sober since may 18th so no news is good news

TAC still getting paid by my old job...they are dragging there feet and letting people go, so I can't complain other than the 4 hours a day I spend commuting to sit there and do nothing for another 8 hours

My knees are a combo problem..its age and weight...I was 6'3 180 lbs in HS/College since getting a desk job 25 years ago I got as heavy as 330 lbs which does a huge amount of damage to your lower extremities.  Since my sobriety I have lost 35 lbs and looking to continue losing more
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on September 14, 2009, 05:26:42 AM
Haven't posted here in a while.  Renovations still going on in my world.  Spent most of Friday and Saturday painting.  Since when do your lat muscles in your back ache after painting?  Well, they did yesterday.  Today isn't so bad.  Sunday was furniture moving day ... bringing in most of the stuff that was squirreled away into the garage for the renovation - bookcases, benches, boxes.  Basement is slowly but surely starting to take shape.

Wkimi... good to hear all of the positive progression you're making.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 14, 2009, 07:24:57 AM


Don't know if it'll make you feel any better, but it doesn't necessarily seem like "old fart" related issues, but rather something specific that happened.  And, if you rehab properly, you'll damn feel better once it's done.

I been meaning to ask how things are going with your lifestyle issues.  Haven't heard any updates, but I've assumed that no news worth reporting is good news. 

Nah..I'm pretty sure they're "old fart" issues...

Yeah wki, any updates. I noticed the line "away from work"..did you find a job?

Barto  clean and sober since may 18th so no news is good news

TAC still getting paid by my old job...they are dragging there feet and letting people go, so I can't complain other than the 4 hours a day I spend commuting to sit there and do nothing for another 8 hours

My knees are a combo problem..its age and weight...I was 6'3 180 lbs in HS/College since getting a desk job 25 years ago I got as heavy as 330 lbs which does a huge amount of damage to your lower extremities.  Since my sobriety I have lost 35 lbs and looking to continue losing more

Way to go ! Take glucosamine 1000 mg. It helps your knees feel a bit better. Take it from a guy to installed carpet for 20 years. Talk about rough on your kness. Also, next time you want to reach for that bowl of ice cream, masturbate instead. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2009, 01:25:11 PM
  Since my sobriety I have lost 35 lbs and looking to continue losing more

Nice!

Also, next time you want to reach for that bowl of ice cream, masturbate instead. :biggrin:

I'll just have Cool Whip on mine, thank you very much!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on September 14, 2009, 03:57:56 PM
For TAC  couldn't find any pictures of "The Jacket"  but these pics are circa 1982


(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/wkiml/savagesaint1982.jpg)

(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/wkiml/savagesaint1982-2.jpg)

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2009, 06:11:41 PM
F##king awesome wki!

I picked you out in the first pic before I saw the second. Your buddy in the chair looks like Jay Jay French.  Please tell me that dude's not wearing leg warmers! :rollin

If you're wearing a Born Again t shirt, that had to be autumn of '83.

Great stuff.

I challenge more Old Fogeys to dig out some goods!

Let's f##king see' em!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on September 15, 2009, 04:47:38 AM
F##king awesome wki!

I picked you out in the first pic before I saw the second. Your buddy in the chair looks like Jay Jay French.  Please tell me that dude's not wearing leg warmers! :rollin

If you're wearing a Born Again t shirt, that had to be autumn of '83.

Great stuff.

I challenge more Old Fogeys to dig out some goods!

Let's f##king see' em!

That is a Born Again shirt...yes hes wearing leg warmers, yes he looks like JJ French and he is my younger brother
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2009, 08:11:03 AM
Went to the Pats game, got home and went to bed at 1am.  Got up at 6:15am to go to work, and have a woozy head today.  To quote Danny Glover, "I'm to ols for this shit".  Old guys shouldn't hang with the youngsters.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
F##king awesome wki!

I picked you out in the first pic before I saw the second. Your buddy in the chair looks like Jay Jay French.  Please tell me that dude's not wearing leg warmers! :rollin

If you're wearing a Born Again t shirt, that had to be autumn of '83.

Great stuff.

I challenge more Old Fogeys to dig out some goods!

Let's f##king see' em!

That is a Born Again shirt...yes hes wearing leg warmers, yes he looks like JJ French and he is my younger brother

So I got 3 out of four! :metal
It looks like you guys are partying with the Bay City Rollers!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on September 15, 2009, 10:13:01 AM
Those are some great pics wkiml!   :lol  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on September 15, 2009, 10:43:24 AM
F##king awesome wki!

I picked you out in the first pic before I saw the second. Your buddy in the chair looks like Jay Jay French.  Please tell me that dude's not wearing leg warmers! :rollin

If you're wearing a Born Again t shirt, that had to be autumn of '83.

Great stuff.

I challenge more Old Fogeys to dig out some goods!

Let's f##king see' em!

That is a Born Again shirt...yes hes wearing leg warmers, yes he looks like JJ French and he is my younger brother

So I got 3 out of four! :metal
It looks like you guys are partying with the Bay City Rollers!

In the first Picture all the guys with the exception of the guy giving the devil horns/I love you man were members of the band I was in...I played Bass/My Brother played Guitar/ Dude with white MC standing on the chair played lead and the guy on the floor was the drummer

We are still trying to figure out what the hell I was opened in the bottom picture with the screw offcap..Most likely Boone's Farm
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Those are some great pics wkiml!   :lol  :tup

Still waiting for some 80's LudwigVan shots....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 15, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
Went to the Pats game, got home and went to bed at 1am.  Got up at 6:15am to go to work, and have a woozy head today.  To quote Danny Glover, "I'm to ols for this shit".  Old guys shouldn't hang with the youngsters.
You were almost cursed for wearing those 80's circus clown uniforms. In typical Patriot fashion they found a way. In typical Bills fashion, they choked.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Progmetty on September 25, 2009, 06:02:53 AM
I don't qualify to post in this thread for another 3 years but I just couldn't think of a more appropriate place on DTF to brag about my Bonanza DVDs!
Bonanza first season was released for the first time on DVD a few weeks ago and I got it today, so freakin excited about watching it without all the annoying TV Land commercials.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2009, 08:10:57 AM
Went to the Pats game, got home and went to bed at 1am.  Got up at 6:15am to go to work, and have a woozy head today.  To quote Danny Glover, "I'm to ols for this shit".  Old guys shouldn't hang with the youngsters.
You were almost cursed for wearing those 80's circus clown uniforms. In typical Patriot fashion they found a way. In typical Bills fashion, they choked.

We were cursed last week tick.  Damn those smack talking Jets.  We'll get a shot at then at home.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: EstyMaJ on September 25, 2009, 08:43:49 AM
Well It's nice to Know there are others that have been fans since DT's Biggining
Anyway reporting in and thought i was the oldest but I think i read a couple of posts at age 44 also
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 25, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
Went to the Pats game, got home and went to bed at 1am.  Got up at 6:15am to go to work, and have a woozy head today.  To quote Danny Glover, "I'm to ols for this shit".  Old guys shouldn't hang with the youngsters.
You were almost cursed for wearing those 80's circus clown uniforms. In typical Patriot fashion they found a way. In typical Bills fashion, they choked.

We were cursed last week tick.  Damn those smack talking Jets.  We'll get a shot at then at home.
I think Sanchez is the real deal, and Brady needs some time to work out the ring rust. I like the Jets (second favorite team)so I enjoyed the victory.
My team is the Broncos so it may be a rough year my me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
Went to the Pats game, got home and went to bed at 1am.  Got up at 6:15am to go to work, and have a woozy head today.  To quote Danny Glover, "I'm to ols for this shit".  Old guys shouldn't hang with the youngsters.
You were almost cursed for wearing those 80's circus clown uniforms. In typical Patriot fashion they found a way. In typical Bills fashion, they choked.

The Jets have a great running game so they can ease him in but he produced in the second half when the Pats shut down the run.  Good sign for the Jets. 
Denver blew it up and it will take a few years.  Or mabye the curse of the Pats coaching staff continues.
We were cursed last week tick.  Damn those smack talking Jets.  We'll get a shot at then at home.
I think Sanchez is the real deal, and Brady needs some time to work out the ring rust. I like the Jets (second favorite team)so I enjoyed the victory.
My team is the Broncos so it may be a rough year my me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on September 28, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
I don't qualify to post in this thread for another 3 years but I just couldn't think of a more appropriate place on DTF to brag about my Bonanza DVDs!
Bonanza first season was released for the first time on DVD a few weeks ago and I got it today, so freakin excited about watching it without all the annoying TV Land commercials.

TV Shows on DVD are awesome.  It's just a little weird when they fade down or otherwise do an obvious break because the commercial goes there, but it's so cool that you don't have commercials there that you get over it pretty quickly.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2009, 06:47:05 AM
I don't qualify to post in this thread for another 3 years but I just couldn't think of a more appropriate place on DTF to brag about my Bonanza DVDs!
Bonanza first season was released for the first time on DVD a few weeks ago and I got it today, so freakin excited about watching it without all the annoying TV Land commercials.

TV Shows on DVD are awesome.  It's just a little weird when they fade down or otherwise do an obvious break because the commercial goes there, but it's so cool that you don't have commercials there that you get over it pretty quickly.

I've got the entire Sanford And Son collection on DVD!  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Serpentor on September 30, 2009, 07:34:14 AM
Three's Company FTW, especially with all the Ralph Furley seasons.  He was hysterical on that show
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2009, 07:36:02 AM
Three's Company FTW, especially with all the Ralph Furley seasons.  He was hysterical on that show
Amen!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on September 30, 2009, 08:16:12 AM
Three's Company FTW, especially with all the Ralph Furley seasons.  He was hysterical on that show

Great show for giggles and jiggles. 


I've got the entire Sanford And Son collection on DVD!  :metal

That theme song gets me every time! 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on September 30, 2009, 11:09:57 AM
I went through the first season of WKRP in Cincinatti.  It was pretty cool; I'd almost forgotten how stunning Loni Anderson was, and I always thought Bailey was cute, though they didn't really do much with her until later seasons.  I don't think they ever did any more because Season One didn't sell well.

And of course the reason why it didn't sell well is because most of the music had been subbed out for "generic rock music".  Even when it was integral to the plot or punchline.  The rights to use the music on the TV show have to all be renegotiated when they make DVDs of them, and in most cases the suits just didn't consider it worth their time/effort.  Morons.

So when Dr. Johnny Fever raves on about callers who beg him "What can I do?  What do I take?" and in response he puts on a record and cranks it, it does not have Bob Seger screaming "Just take those old records off the shelf" but instead has some generic instrumental thing.  The joke isn't just ruined; the entire scene makes no sense.

The scene where Mr. Carlson walks into the booth while Johnny is playing "Dogs" by Pink Floyd (AC: "Do I hear... dogs?"  Johnny: "I do") -- gone.  They just cut the scene completely, which I guess is better than having another scene that makes no sense.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on September 30, 2009, 11:53:09 AM
They also overdubbed some of the dialog because it wasn't possible to remove the music without removing the talking as well.  The real irony is that the show did a lot to promote the music they were playing.  The gold record hanging on the wall of the bullpen was an honest to God gold record awarded to the show's producers by Chrysalis for being instrumental in the success of Blondie's Heart of Glass. 

Regardless, all four seasons are pretty easy to get online, recorded from Nick at Night with the original music.  I watched it all about 4 months ago.  Apparently, if stations still have the originals, then they're allowed to show them.  It's stations that purchase them now for syndication that has to use non ASCAP music. 

Oh, and Bailey is 10 times hotter than Loni Anderson.  Was in real life, too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2009, 02:09:23 PM
Wow, that's interesting. I didn't realize that about the music. I wasn't really into that show anyway. I do remember the episode after the trampling at The Who show.


I'm not sure I even remember Bailey.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on September 30, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Yeah, I've heard that there are places online where you can find the originals.  I hate watching TV on my PC though, plus I still have not joined the 21st century and learned how to bittorrent.  It seems like everyfuckingthing is bittorrent nowadays.

Bailey Quarters was the station intern who started with a very small role, but they figured out how to better use her character as time went on.  And yes, she was definitely cuter than Jennifer (Loni Anderson).  Jennifer was the blonde bombshell who looked fantastic but you knew you didn't have a chance in hell, so there was practically no point to even looking at her.  Bailey was just a nice regular girl.  I'd much rather hang out with Bailey.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FGrxKMwdUu8/Sq01I0vs9qI/AAAAAAAAGJw/W5v54dW9Xr4/s320/Jan+Smithers+WKRP+3.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FGrxKMwdUu8/Sq0yjK8f7LI/AAAAAAAAGJY/sCBwt3Ch4aA/s320/Jan+Smithers+WKRP.jpg)

One of the running jokes on the show was that the owner, Arthur Carlson, was so clueless that he didn't know who Bailey was.  He did see some pretty girl around the office sometimes, but whenever he tried to ask who it was, something always came up to distract him.  Meanwhile, he'd hear things once in a while about how Bailey did this or that, and he'd say "Okay, get that Bailey guy to do it".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2009, 05:03:37 PM
OK, I remember now...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2009, 02:43:42 PM
It's been a while, but the old farts club is back on the front page.  Reason?  Today I reached an old fart milestone that made my 40th birthday look like shit.  No, I'm not talking about my first colon check(actually enjoyed that :P), I'm talking about my beautiful daughter's....wait for it......sweet sixteen.  Holy shit, that is one that goes right to the old man core.  Knowing that your little toeheaded bundle of joy will be in control of a 2000lb car is, to be frank, fucking frightening. :\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 19, 2009, 04:08:44 PM
Is she hot?

Okay, okay... I'm just kidding.  Of course she's hot.  All 16-year-old girls are, at least in their father's eyes. 

But seriously, if the fact that she's driving a car is the worst of your worries, you've done a good job.  My daughter started junior high this year and has been blowing away her texts-per-month on some guy named Alex.  I'm gonna have to check this Alex guy out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2009, 04:49:06 PM
Is she hot?

Okay, okay... I'm just kidding.  Of course she's hot.  All 16-year-old girls are, at least in their father's eyes. 

But seriously, if the fact that she's driving a car is the worst of your worries, you've done a good job.  My daughter started junior high this year and has been blowing away her texts-per-month on some guy named Alex.  I'm gonna have to check this Alex guy out.
I found the best way to check out your daughters potential suitors is through a rifle scope.  It's amazing how honest it keeps the little buggers. :xbones
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 19, 2009, 06:40:25 PM
Cool, I'll try that. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 19, 2009, 10:17:13 PM
Is she hot?

Okay, okay... I'm just kidding.  Of course she's hot.  All 16-year-old girls are, at least in their father's eyes. 

But seriously, if the fact that she's driving a car is the worst of your worries, you've done a good job.  My daughter started junior high this year and has been blowing away her texts-per-month on some guy named Alex.  I'm gonna have to check this Alex guy out.
I found the best way to check out your daughters potential suitors is through a rifle scope.  It's amazing how honest it keeps the little buggers. :xbones
I like the way you think !!! :metal :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2009, 10:34:36 PM
Is she hot?

Okay, okay... I'm just kidding.  Of course she's hot.  All 16-year-old girls are, at least in their father's eyes. 

But seriously, if the fact that she's driving a car is the worst of your worries, you've done a good job.  My daughter started junior high this year and has been blowing away her texts-per-month on some guy named Alex.  I'm gonna have to check this Alex guy out.
I found the best way to check out your daughters potential suitors is through a rifle scope.  It's amazing how honest it keeps the little buggers. :xbones
I like the way you think !!! :metal :tup
Yeah, I also like to tell them that,"I really don't want to go back to prison because of another ill mannered child."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 20, 2009, 07:52:09 AM
I tease my 15 year old son all the time about dating....I always ask him if his GF's mother is single and hot and if so hook me up...than I explain that if I do hit it off with her, he would incase be dating his potential step sister...freaks him out everytime
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 20, 2009, 12:03:42 PM
I tease my 15 year old son all the time about dating....I always ask him if his GF's mother is single and hot and if so hook me up...than I explain that if I do hit it off with her, he would incase be dating his potential step sister...freaks him out everytime
Classic!! Kids are so gullible and self concious, they make it way to easy to pick on them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 20, 2009, 12:04:55 PM
is older and moldier today

35...its all down hill now......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 20, 2009, 12:10:57 PM
is older and moldier today

35...its all down hill now......
Happy Bday. The good thing about down hill, It's easier on the knees, which will help since the knees go to crap right...about....now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lutima on October 21, 2009, 01:20:26 PM
I can't believe I never even saw this thread  :P....must be my age  :facepalm:
 ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 23, 2009, 11:24:41 AM
Its official today I became a member of the unemployed ( to an extent) I no longer have to commute 4 hours a day (2 each way ) to work. I was let go today, but I will continue to receive my normal pay until Jan 23rd at that point I can apply for unemployment benefits, and I will receive my severance package equivalent to one years salary, I also will receive my medical/dental benefits until 12/31/2010 as well as job coaching and job placement services until that date as well. It feels like a huge burden has been lifted from my shoulders, now I can go ahead and have my surgeries as well as have time for the gym, before looking for something new.


Plus it will give me lots of time to attend shows  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 23, 2009, 11:54:03 AM
Holy fucking shit, that's a glorious (total) severance package!  Nothing even changes until next year, except that you don't actually have to go to work, and you could go another year without working before the money even catches up.

Where the hell did you work?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Nick on October 23, 2009, 11:59:46 AM
Its official today I became a member of the unemployed ( to an extent) I no longer have to commute 4 hours a day (2 each way ) to work. I was let go today, but I will continue to receive my normal pay until Jan 23rd at that point I can apply for unemployment benefits, and I will receive my severance package equivalent to one years salary, I also will receive my medical/dental benefits until 12/31/2010 as well as job coaching and job placement services until that date as well. It feels like a huge burden has been lifted from my shoulders, now I can go ahead and have my surgeries as well as have time for the gym, before looking for something new.


Plus it will give me lots of time to attend shows  :metal

Did you win the lottery or get fired?

I really can't tell. :lol

In any case are all you old people still alive? You'd think by now a few would have dropped over from poor nursing home care or something.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 23, 2009, 12:00:11 PM
Congratulations.  You should start working out, buy a classic Camaro, get a job at a burger joint, and fall in love with a hot jailbait girl.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Nick on October 23, 2009, 12:02:00 PM
Rule #11 Barto.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 23, 2009, 12:10:41 PM
Rule #11 Barto.
Not only was it simply a movie reference, but I actually advised him against it.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Nick on October 23, 2009, 12:15:32 PM
Sorry, no idea it was a movie reference.

As for the other part, even though you did advise him against it, to me, or others who didn't get the reference it was still general promotion. :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 23, 2009, 12:33:24 PM
Its official today I became a member of the unemployed ( to an extent) I no longer have to commute 4 hours a day (2 each way ) to work. I was let go today, but I will continue to receive my normal pay until Jan 23rd at that point I can apply for unemployment benefits, and I will receive my severance package equivalent to one years salary, I also will receive my medical/dental benefits until 12/31/2010 as well as job coaching and job placement services until that date as well. It feels like a huge burden has been lifted from my shoulders, now I can go ahead and have my surgeries as well as have time for the gym, before looking for something new.


Plus it will give me lots of time to attend shows  :metal
What the hell, your severance package didn't include daily hummers from twenty year old asian hookers!!!  I'd protest!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 23, 2009, 05:43:17 PM
Holy fucking shit, that's a glorious (total) severance package!  Nothing even changes until next year, except that you don't actually have to go to work, and you could go another year without working before the money even catches up.

Where the hell did you work?

Dresdner Bank...A German bank in Manhattan...they were acquired by Commerzbank Germany and decided to downsize the US offices
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 23, 2009, 05:46:28 PM
Congratulations.  You should start working out, buy a classic Camaro, get a job at a burger joint, and fall in love with a hot jailbait girl.



This was my intention the entire time...although I'm kind of undecided on the Camaro or a Mustang


First day off from the daily grind and i'm up at 7:30  WTF? finally get a chance to sleep in as late as I want and I am wide awake...guess its gonna take sometime adjusting the old internal clock..25 years of getting up early for work may take some time to work this out
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 18, 2009, 09:11:46 AM
DTF is turning me into a grumpy old man.  All of these people keep started threads about top ten this or greatest that, and it's all total shit compared to the old days.  In the SNL thread, I'm the only person who mentioned stuff from the 70s and 80s (Millahh mentioned one).  Occasionally the more recent ones will do something funny; I chuckled at The Penis Mightier, but compared to the stuff we got to see, it's shit.  SNL has sucked ass for 20 years and those of us who were around 20 years ago know this. 

Then you have the top ten multiplayer games.  The new ones are cool, but nobody seems to appreciate anything that happened before 2007.  They disregard an era where style had to make up for a lack of technology.

It's pretty strange to me because this is a forum where damn near everybody can appreciate music that was made 20 years before they were born, but in any other category, only new stuff seems to matter. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 18, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
I agree.  But I'm not sure what the solution is, or whether it's even a "problem" in the first place.  Good music is timeless.  People still listen to classical from hundreds of years ago, to jazz from half a century ago, and classic rock from 30 or 40 years ago.  But that's because it's still around.  We had parents, older siblings, and friends' older siblings when we were growing up, and we heard the music, so it's in us.  They say that the music you heard when you were growing up will always be your favorite, no matter what comes after.

I agree that SNL has sucked 90% of the time the last 20 years, but they don't even show the originals in reruns anymore.  When's the last time you saw the original Not Ready for Primetime Players?  Ackroyd and Murray.  John Belushi.  If all you've ever seen is stuff from the last 20 years, that's all you can pick from.  Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair segment of the population that think Mike Meyers was an "original" cast member, just because he was funny and was on when they were kids.

The situation with MP games is a little different, but maybe not such a mystery.  Unlike TV (and music, kinda), games aren't free, and if you're laying out your own hard-earned money on a game, you probably aren't going to take a chance on a game from a few years ago, even if you've heard some good things about it.  Not when all your friends are raving about the latest Halo or Doom or Final Fantasy or whatever.  (I have no idea if any of those games are any good or are good examples, because I've never played any of them.  I just seem to hear about them a lot.)  They're pushing you to shell out $50 for it so you can all play, and they already have their copies.  Or can you pay $40 for Diablo II (which still owns them all IMO) but you'll be the only one playing it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 18, 2009, 11:11:49 AM
I'm as old as anyone on this board and I think the early 90's SNL with Chris Farley, Adam Sandler, David Spade, Dana Carvey, and Phil Hartman(an all time great !) was pretty darn good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 18, 2009, 11:35:55 AM
I'm as old as anyone on this board and I think the early 90's SNL with Chris Farley, Adam Sandler, David Spade, Dana Carvey, and Phil Hartman(an all time great !) was pretty darn good.
That was a golden era.  I rate it every bit as highly as the original.  When I referred to the 80s incarnation, I wasn't referring to Joe Piscapo, but to Neelan, Lovitz and the great Phil Hartman. 

Outstanding point, Orbert.  There really isn't access to a lot of this stuff anymore.  I guess it just annoys me that people who can't know better think so highly of something that's a shell of it's former self. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 18, 2009, 03:04:13 PM
I haven't seen much of the early 90's SNL, but based on the clips I've seen, yeah, it was pretty good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: 73109 on December 18, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
Congratulations.  You should start working out, buy a classic Camaro, get a job at a burger joint, and fall in love with a hot jailbait girl.



:metal

Sick movie!!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 18, 2009, 03:11:48 PM
Congratulations.  You should start working out, buy a classic Camaro, get a job at a burger joint, and fall in love with a hot jailbait girl.



:metal

Sick movie!!!!!
Hey 7,GTFO of this thread, come back in sixteen years.

As for SNL, the original crew was the best.  Nothing could ever top the likes of the Bab News Bees, Samuri, landshark, or Rosana Ana Dana.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: 73109 on December 18, 2009, 03:14:09 PM
Sorry. Just commeting on El Barto's awesome movie taste...I'm gone.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2009, 10:08:25 AM
As for SNL, the original crew was the best.  Nothing could ever top the likes of the Bab News Bees, Samuri, landshark, or Rosana Ana Dana.

Eddie Murphy as Buckwheat is right up there as well.  80s and early 90s crew and skits were good.  Nearly everyone from those era's became household comedic names, or at least went on to some kind of primetime success.  Who has done that since the mid-90s... with any longevity.  Fey and Ferrell are the pretty much only ones that comes to mind - of course that could be because I don't know any other names.

Games... yeah, I had to chuckle at a lot of the comments on how the older games (Legend of Zelda for example) got slagged in the Top 200 of all time thread.  That list was clearly taking into account the effect the game had on it's own era of gaming - not just the quality of the game/or graphics (if that was the measuring bar, only games from 2008/2009 would qualify).  Really, Pong should be in there as the pioneer of home gaming.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: millahh on December 23, 2009, 10:59:15 AM
Late 80's/early 90s was the 2nd Golden Age for SNL.  About 80% of the skits on any given night were great, and the rest were at least watcheable.

As far as MP games, well....I still have my most recent gaming system...an Atari 2600!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 23, 2009, 11:11:04 AM
Late 80's/early 90s was the 2nd Golden Age for SNL.  About 80% of the skits on any given night were great, and the rest were at least watcheable.

As far as MP games, well....I still have my most recent gaming system...an Atari 2600!

Adventure rules!!!!!!!!  And so does Kaboom!!!!! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 23, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
Late 80's/early 90s was the 2nd Golden Age for SNL.  About 80% of the skits on any given night were great, and the rest were at least watcheable.

As far as MP games, well....I still have my most recent gaming system...an Atari 2600!

Adventure rules!!!!!!!!  And so does Kaboom!!!!! :metal
Yar's Revenge. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on January 05, 2010, 02:51:28 PM
Question to moldies...

Am I the only person left who has never sent a text message ?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 05, 2010, 02:56:57 PM
I reply went sent one, but that's pretty infrequent.  I'd rather talk than try to type.  Blackberry's odd idea for a keyboard doesn't work well with my brain. 

I did have an amusing exchange the other night with somebody who texted me by mistake. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 05, 2010, 03:51:11 PM
Question to moldies...

Am I the only person left who has never sent a text message ?

I've only sent a few.  But I don't have text messaging.  Yup, I'm old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 05, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
Late 80's/early 90s was the 2nd Golden Age for SNL.  About 80% of the skits on any given night were great, and the rest were at least watcheable.

As far as MP games, well....I still have my most recent gaming system...an Atari 2600!

Adventure rules!!!!!!!!  And so does Kaboom!!!!! :metal
Yar's Revenge. 



Loved that game too, El Barto.  Stampede, Superman.  I could go on .... :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 05, 2010, 04:20:32 PM
Oh God, Adventure!!!  Boy that opened a rusty fucking dor in my memories.  I remember we used to screw around with the game by trying to get all three dragons in the room with the chalice when the game ended.  It was our own skill level we added when it got boring.  Also, remember how cheesy the 2600 version of Xaxon was compared to the stand up(details may be fuzzzy, for they are about twenty thousand beers old) :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on January 06, 2010, 02:42:47 PM
blowing into the cartridges to get them to work   :rollin  they always recommended the q-tip  but that was to much to ask of me to get up and go to the bathroom to get one
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 06, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
I didn't have Atari, we had Intellivision  :facepalm:

Oh, and I'll take early 80's SNL
Eddie Murphy
Joe Piscopo
Tim Kazurinski (Dr. Jack Padovski!)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Samsara on January 06, 2010, 04:28:15 PM
I forget if I reported for duty in this thread or not, but yeah, I'm here.


Oh, and I had Intellivision AND Atari 2600. Good times. I used to love the game COMBAT. lol. That and Home Run. The Atari used to freeze all the time and I could run around the bases and beat it 99-0.

Good times.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 06, 2010, 04:36:07 PM
I was never really a video game guy anyway.

In my store we sell that handheld football game, the one with the red lines. Yikes!


Also: I've never sent a text message in my life!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 06, 2010, 04:52:50 PM
I was never really a video game guy anyway.

In my store we sell that handheld football game, the one with the red lines. Yikes!


Also: I've never sent a text message in my life!

Crap TAC, I loved that Coleco Football game. I played that for hours.  Also, I had a friend you had Intelevision Football and he always cheated and talked me by running through the other side of the screen.  Man I hated that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 06, 2010, 05:02:40 PM
Intellivision was what the well-to-do kids had.  We were always envious of them.  Elitist bastards.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 06, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
Intellivision was what the well-to-do kids had.  We were always envious of them.  Elitist bastards.

I don't think so. It was nowhere near as good as Atari. I don't even think it was as good as Colecovision!

I really didn't play it that much. I mean, we're talking the 7th f##king grade now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 06, 2010, 05:22:54 PM
We didn't have Atari or Coleco or Intellivision.  We had some cheesy unknown-company product that had six built-in games.  It was a box that attached to the antenna leads of your TV and you set the TV to channel 3 to see it.  There were two controllers (generic things with a knob and some buttons on each) and a pistol-shaped thing for the shooting game.  My mom found it at the drug store for like $20.  We weren't exactly rich, and this was a way to get on the console bandwagon.  Oddly enough, I'd never even asked her for one.

It was kinda fun.  Pong clone, Breakout clone, the shooting game, and some others.  Honestly, though, I never got into the console gaming thing.  I think I played it a lot for a few weeks, then at some point I realized it had been sitting there for months and I hadn't hooked it up.

My kids have Wii and PS3, had N64 and Genesis before that, but whatever.  I'm more into board games.  Real, physical games.  I will kick your ass at Monopoly or Risk.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 06, 2010, 05:39:57 PM
Except Orbert, your kids would want to play board games on the Wii. ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 06, 2010, 06:32:21 PM
We didn't have Atari or Coleco or Intellivision.  We had some cheesy unknown-company product that had six built-in games.  It was a box that attached to the antenna leads of your TV and you set the TV to channel 3 to see it.  There were two controllers (generic things with a knob and some buttons on each) and a pistol-shaped thing for the shooting game.  My mom found it at the drug store for like $20.  We weren't exactly rich, and this was a way to get on the console bandwagon.  Oddly enough, I'd never even asked her for one.

It was kinda fun.  Pong clone, Breakout clone, the shooting game, and some others.  Honestly, though, I never got into the console gaming thing.  I think I played it a lot for a few weeks, then at some point I realized it had been sitting there for months and I hadn't hooked it up.

We had that as well.  It actually pre-dates the Atari by a year or two. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 06, 2010, 06:42:46 PM
We had the Atari 2600.  We never upgraded to the 5200 or the 7800.

One time we hooked it up to a portable emergency TV - Black & white with a 5" screen.  Nothing like Combat under those conditions!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 06, 2010, 07:04:12 PM
I will kick your ass at Monopoly or Risk.
:lol
Stratego FTW!! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 06, 2010, 10:10:56 PM
Original Stratego FTW.  The Marshall is 1, the General is 2, Colonels are 3. 

I don't know why they changed it, but my guess would be that people were too stupid to realize that a lower number can be a higher rank, so they switched them around.  The pieces have changed over the years, and I'm okay with that, but I still get screwed up when I play with a newer set with the numbers all "backwards".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 07, 2010, 06:37:00 AM
Original Stratego FTW.  The Marshall is 1, the General is 2, Colonels are 3. 

I don't know why they changed it, but my guess would be that people were too stupid to realize that a lower number can be a higher rank, so they switched them around.  The pieces have changed over the years, and I'm okay with that, but I still get screwed up when I play with a newer set with the numbers all "backwards".

What?  You mean they renumbered the pieces?  Heresy I say, heresy!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on January 07, 2010, 07:02:07 AM
Original Stratego FTW.  The Marshall is 1, the General is 2, Colonels are 3.  

I don't know why they changed it, but my guess would be that people were too stupid to realize that a lower number can be a higher rank, so they switched them around.  The pieces have changed over the years, and I'm okay with that, but I still get screwed up when I play with a newer set with the numbers all "backwards".

What?  You mean they renumbered the pieces?  Heresy I say, heresy!!
I hear the new Stratego pieces can now send text messages to each other to alert themselves of impending doom. :tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 07, 2010, 07:12:41 AM
I like the pieces that have liquid explosives strapped to them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 07, 2010, 11:59:04 AM
Original Stratego FTW.  The Marshall is 1, the General is 2, Colonels are 3. 

I don't know why they changed it, but my guess would be that people were too stupid to realize that a lower number can be a higher rank, so they switched them around.  The pieces have changed over the years, and I'm okay with that, but I still get screwed up when I play with a newer set with the numbers all "backwards".

What?  You mean they renumbered the pieces?  Heresy I say, heresy!!

Just in case this was a serious response (unlike the two follow-ups, which were funny, but... you know), yes.  We got Stratego for my son a few years ago, and we played a few games.  I should've been able to adapt, but it just kept screwing with me.  The Marshall is now 9, General is 8, etc.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: sonatafanica on January 12, 2010, 04:11:48 PM
I've got something that I think will make you guys feel even older.



Remember Terminator 2?


That movie came out the year I was born.





I'm in college now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 12, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
I've got something that I think will make you guys feel even older.



Remember Terminator 2?


That movie came out the year I was born.







I'm in college now.

I just started to date my wife when we went on a date to see it.  We've been marries for 15 years now.  I'm feeling old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2010, 05:46:02 PM
Oh yeah?  Well I'm in a band whose lead singer/guitarist was born the year I graduated from high school.  Also, the violinist is 19 so I'm as old as the two of them added together!

But it's cool.  She's totally smoking and stands about six feet in front of me and to the left.  I basically get to check her out the entire gig, and she can't even see me.  I'm such a fucking lech.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 12, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
I've got something that I think will make you guys feel even older.



Remember Terminator 2?


That movie came out the year I was born.





I'm in college now.
Hey Sonata, know what makes us feel younger, kickin the crap outta snotty college kids. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 13, 2010, 08:07:39 AM

Hey Sonata, know what makes us feel younger, kickin the crap outta snotty college kids. :biggrin:
:lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on January 13, 2010, 01:24:36 PM
Oh yeah?  Well I'm in a band whose lead singer/guitarist was born the year I graduated from high school.  Also, the violinist is 19 so I'm as old as the two of them added together!

But it's cool.  She's totally smoking and stands about six feet in front of me and to the left.  I basically get to check her out the entire gig, and she can't even see me.  I'm such a fucking lech.

That explains all the wrong notes?   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 13, 2010, 02:45:19 PM
There may be a few, yes.  I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AcidLameLTE on January 14, 2010, 04:56:58 AM
I will kick your ass at Monopoly
We shall see about that :yeahright
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on January 14, 2010, 07:07:29 AM

Hey Sonata, know what makes us feel younger, kickin the crap outta snotty college kids. :biggrin:
:lol

Yes and we attack in packs....wave after wave of old fogeys..you will begging for mercy before we are through
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 15, 2010, 09:25:44 AM
tooooo many video game threads, making me feel old!!!!
:tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on February 15, 2010, 09:31:01 AM
i just don't get alot of the new games....the ones where you pull people out of their cars, beat them up, and drive over hookers..just..have no alure for me.
Sure they were fun for five minutes..but the "go fetch" missions...meh...next.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: True Death of Life on February 15, 2010, 09:36:59 AM
Nintendo 64, anyone?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 15, 2010, 11:03:16 AM
Nintendo 64, anyone?
Pong anyone!!! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2010, 11:37:39 AM
I'm painting the bottom cabinets in the kitchen and it's hard to get off the floor after painting for 2 hours.  Damn I'm old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 15, 2010, 11:41:11 AM
I'm painting the bottom cabinets in the kitchen and it's hard to get off the floor after painting for 2 hours.  Damn I'm old.
and it gets better every year! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2010, 01:30:12 PM
I can't figure out my iPod. I started a thread requesting the help of the young gunners.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2010, 01:48:55 PM
I'm painting the bottom cabinets in the kitchen and it's hard to get off the floor after painting for 2 hours.  Damn I'm old.
and it gets better every year! :biggrin:

It does get better tick.  Now I've got to let the doors dry and paint the other side.  BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 15, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
I can't figure out my iPod. I started a thread requesting the help of the young gunners.
This is the perfect forum for that. The kids here are damn smart.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on February 15, 2010, 02:26:57 PM
Nintendo 64, anyone?
Attention all old as molders, we have a lost little girl in the thread.  She is 15, bout 5'4", and has curly red hair.  She is wearing a slayer shirt, has shit written all over her hands, and responds to the name Sarah.  If anyone sees this little girl, please return her to the chat thread immediatly.  Thank You.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2010, 02:57:22 PM
I can't figure out my iPod. I started a thread requesting the help of the young gunners.
This is the perfect forum for that. The kids here are damn smart.

Yeah, my wife was like "call the 800 number" and I said..NO WAY..I'm going right to DTF!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
I can't figure out my iPod. I started a thread requesting the help of the young gunners.
This is the perfect forum for that. The kids here are damn smart.

Yeah, my wife was like "call the 800 number" and I said..NO WAY..I'm going right to DTF!!

One of the many reminders of our age TAC. ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 15, 2010, 05:09:46 PM
I'm in college now.

Get off my lawn!!

Arg...definately having old man problems.  I hurt my back trying to shovel snow last Wednesday, so I haven't been able to stand up straight, and now my hip joints are bothering me.  This never would have happened when I was a kid.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 15, 2010, 05:30:58 PM
I'm in college now.

Get off my lawn!!

Arg...definately having old man problems.  I hurt my back trying to shovel snow last Wednesday, so I haven't been able to stand up straight, and now my hip joints are bothering me.  This never would have happened when I was a kid.

Don't feel bad.  My back has been bothering me the last couple days and all I did was take a nap.   :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on February 15, 2010, 06:22:09 PM
I'm in college now.

Get off my lawn!!

Arg...definately having old man problems.  I hurt my back trying to shovel snow last Wednesday, so I haven't been able to stand up straight, and now my hip joints are bothering me.  This never would have happened when I was a kid.

Threw my back out shoveling last week (Thursday) went to the gym for my session with the trainer today, mentioned to him what happened and that I'm still sore/stiff. HE turned to me and without blinking an eye says " Okay I guess we should work on strengthening the back  today so it doesn't happened again"  I looked at him like WTF, I was warning you so I didn't have to do any back exercises today you Idiot....Needless to say, it took me about 20 minutes to get out of my car and up the stairs on all fours to write this.



Don't feel bad.  My back has been bothering me the last couple days and all I did was take a nap.   :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 15, 2010, 09:23:38 PM



I'm in college now.
Come back and see us when you get your masters and we'll talk.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 15, 2010, 09:56:43 PM
Nintendo 64, anyone?

I told you to get off my lawn!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on February 23, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Having been laid up with a cold for a while, I started watching Soap from the beginning on Saturday.  I've now blown through the first season and a half.  Great show that nobody but us fogies would remember.  Anytime any 5 or more of them are in the same room, it's guaranteed hilarity; fantastic ensemble cast.  Benson and Bob are the two real standouts; always hysterical.  And though not a principal character, E. Ronald Mallu was a hoot as well. 

As a kid, this was the first show that I ever watched religiously.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 23, 2010, 01:57:08 PM
Having been laid up with a cold for a while, I started watching Soap from the beginning on Saturday.  I've now blown through the first season and a half.  Great show that nobody but us fogies would remember.  Anytime any 5 or more of them are in the same room, it's guaranteed hilarity; fantastic ensemble cast.  Benson and Bob are the two real standouts; always hysterical.  And though not a principal character, E. Ronald Mallu was a hoot as well. 

As a kid, this was the first show that I ever watched religiously.  Great stuff.
Loved it!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on February 23, 2010, 02:00:58 PM
God Soap was a funny show.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2010, 02:04:27 PM
God Soap was a funny show.

I see by your avitar lonestar, your schwarts is a big as mine! ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on February 23, 2010, 02:06:36 PM
Bigger, it's just a little cold in the forum today. :\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 23, 2010, 02:07:28 PM
God Soap was a funny show.

I see by your avitar lonestar, your schwarts is a big as mine! ;D
My schwarts may not reach bottom, but it bangs the hell out of the sides.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on February 23, 2010, 02:09:03 PM
Yeah, sometimes I strap a 2x4 across my ass so I don't fall in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2010, 02:12:40 PM
In the immortal words of Steven Wright, talking about socks, "I don't go by color or size, I go by thickness".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 23, 2010, 03:12:33 PM
Umm... yeah.


Anyway, I always watched Soap.  It was so bizarro.

Soap was one of the first, if not the first, TV shows to go for laughs by being downright way-the-fuck out there.  Things like Married... with Children and 3rd Rock from the Sun often had the same kind of humor (someone would say something out loud that you just know nobody would really say), but to me were never as funny because it felt too forced.  The writers knew it would get laughs simply because it was so off-the-wall.  Before Soap, sitcoms were funny and sometimes absurd, but always had one foot in reality.  Things were funny, but you always see how someone clueless or whatever could end up in that situation.

With Soap, there were moments of "What the fuck?" that really broke new ground as far as network TV went (which is all there was at the time anyway).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on February 23, 2010, 03:34:37 PM
One of the things that's struck me about it was several rather cavalier references to abortion.  Any time one of the women gets in trouble,  they always announce "yeah, I think I'll keep it,"  like not keeping it was actually a perfectly normal and appropriate option to them.  I don't think shows today are supposed to treat abortion as anything less than evil.  I suppose that probably wasn't anything specific to the show itself as much as the time it was aired, though. 

It just seems rather odd to me that as shocking as the show was supposed to have been in the 70's (boycotts, complaints, stations refusing to air it), it's of course quite tame by today's standards, except that, which probably didn't turn any heads at all in 1979.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2010, 03:47:52 PM
Umm... yeah.


Anyway, I always watched Soap.  It was so bizarro.

Soap was one of the first, if not the first, TV shows to go for laughs by being downright way-the-fuck out there.  Things like Married... with Children and 3rd Rock from the Sun often had the same kind of humor (someone would say something out loud that you just know nobody would really say), but to me were never as funny because it felt too forced.  The writers knew it would get laughs simply because it was so off-the-wall.  Before Soap, sitcoms were funny and sometimes absurd, but always had one foot in reality.  Things were funny, but you always see how someone clueless or whatever could end up in that situation.

With Soap, there were moments of "What the fuck?" that really broke new ground as far as network TV went (which is all there was at the time anyway).

I do think that "All In The Family" broke open the doors to comedy that people once though were untouchable subjects.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 23, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
I agree that "All in the Family" broke some ground, but my biggest problem with "All in the Family" was that Archie Bunker was a raging ignorant bigot, and people thought it was hilarious.  As a minority, that bugged the fuck out of me, and I had trouble seeing anything other than a raging ignorant bigot.  I'm pretty sure I never laughed once watching that show.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
I agree that "All in the Family" broke some ground, but my biggest problem with "All in the Family" was that Archie Bunker was a raging ignorant bigot, and people thought it was hilarious.  As a minority, that bugged the fuck out of me, and I had trouble seeing anything other than a raging ignorant bigot.  I'm pretty sure I never laughed once watching that show.

But now that your older do you think they used that as a tool against biggots like Archie and put him in that light as a comedic tool or did they think it was just funny?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 23, 2010, 04:25:02 PM
I agree that "All in the Family" broke some ground, but my biggest problem with "All in the Family" was that Archie Bunker was a raging ignorant bigot, and people thought it was hilarious.  As a minority, that bugged the fuck out of me, and I had trouble seeing anything other than a raging ignorant bigot.  I'm pretty sure I never laughed once watching that show.

Archie may have had his flaws, and was a loud blow-hard, but someone always put him in his place or demonstrated that he was wrong, even it it didn't occur to Archie.

Soap was awesome, and I think it opened the door for one of my favorite shows in the 80s - Sledge Hammer!  Any fellow Hammerheads on DTF? 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 23, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
I guess the idea was to show how being like that is wrong, as he did tend to get put into his place.  But I rarely got to the resolution.

I remember a commercial for "All in the Family" that aired a lot.  It showed Archie Bunker reading through a list of... I think it was political candidates for something.  He reads the names out loud, and they're all names with clear ethnic backgrounds.  One is Hispanic, one is Italian, one is Japanese, and one is Anglo.  Bunker says "Hmm, a Spic, a Whop, a Jap, and a regular American."  Lots of laughs.  I'm sorry, but that was supposed to be funny?

Am I oversensitive to it because I'm a minority and have actually lived with racism and prejudice?  Definitely.  I guess I can see the "Ha ha, he's such an idiot" humor there, but the problem is that even if the idea is to ridicule Bunker, there were undoubtably people going "Yeah, and...?" because they don't see the problem in the first place.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2010, 07:09:41 AM
Orbert, I agree with you. All In The Family was NOT the least bit funny. I don't think I was offended, I just thought it sucked.


Actually, my favorite show of all time is Sanford & Son.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 24, 2010, 07:15:10 AM

Actually, my favorite show of all time is Sanford & Son.

"how would you like one across your lip!" :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 24, 2010, 08:04:28 AM
Orbert, I agree with you. All In The Family was NOT the least bit funny. I don't think I was offended, I just thought it sucked.


Actually, my favorite show of all time is Sanford & Son.

That wasn't stereotypical either.  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2010, 08:32:31 AM
No, I know it was. And the case could be made that Fred Sanford was a black Archie Bunker..but he was hilarious. But Fred Sanford took as many shots at black people as he did anyone else. He was equal opportunity.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 24, 2010, 11:01:50 AM
No, I know it was. And the case could be made that Fred Sanford was a black Archie Bunker..but he was hilarious. But Fred Sanford took as many shots at black people as he did anyone else. He was equal opportunity.

Especially Esther! ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
No, I know it was. And the case could be made that Fred Sanford was a black Archie Bunker..but he was hilarious. But Fred Sanford took as many shots at black people as he did anyone else. He was equal opportunity.

Especially Esther! ;D
When Esther had to get an operation Fred said she was having a "Horserectomy"! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 24, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
Sanford & Son was funny most of the time.  Then after a while I got kinda tired of Fred Sanford always griping about this or that, or ragging on Lamont about something stupid.

Man, I'm being a real downer here, aren't I?  Am I turning into a crotchety old man?  What the fuck?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 24, 2010, 04:08:35 PM
Sanford & Son was funny most of the time.  Then after a while I got kinda tired of Fred Sanford always griping about this or that, or ragging on Lamont about something stupid.

Man, I'm being a real downer here, aren't I?  Am I turning into a crotchety old man?  What the fuck?

It's a shocking day when you sound like your father.........I know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on February 24, 2010, 04:15:53 PM
You'll know you're fucked if you start calling your immediate family members dingbat, meathead and dumbbell.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 25, 2010, 10:50:15 AM
Sanford & Son was funny most of the time.  Then after a while I got kinda tired of Fred Sanford always griping about this or that, or ragging on Lamont about something stupid.

Man, I'm being a real downer here, aren't I?  Am I turning into a crotchety old man?  What the fuck?
I aint going there. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 25, 2010, 11:05:01 AM
I knew it!  I am!





Shit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Samsara on February 25, 2010, 02:11:41 PM
You'll know you're fucked if you start calling your immediate family members dingbat, meathead and dumbbell.

 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 20, 2010, 11:16:17 PM
Something I've only now fully realized, but my fellow fogies will also appreciate, is how much concert sound has improved since the good ole days.  It happened so gradually that you never really noticed that all of a sudden everything sounds great now.  I just got in from seeing Porcupine Tree, and it was fantastically loud, but still crystal clear and mixed flawlessly.  Remember all those arena shows in the 80s where you could barely make out what song they were playing?  I have a hard time remembering the last concert I went to that really sounded like shit.   I often wax nostalgic about the great, hedonistic concert mentality of our youth, but this is one damn welcome improvement.  I still think there's an appalling lack of nudity, conflagration and wanton drug use at today's concerts, but it's nice to be able to hear it well while still getting your insides rumbled. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on April 21, 2010, 07:57:53 AM
Something I've only now fully realized, but my fellow fogies will also appreciate, is how much concert sound has improved since the good ole days.  It happened so gradually that you never really noticed that all of a sudden everything sounds great now.  I just got in from seeing Porcupine Tree, and it was fantastically loud, but still crystal clear and mixed flawlessly.  Remember all those arena shows in the 80s where you could barely make out what song they were playing?  I have a hard time remembering the last concert I went to that really sounded like shit.   I often wax nostalgic about the great, hedonistic concert mentality of our youth, but this is one damn welcome improvement.  I still think there's an appalling lack of nudity, conflagration and wanton drug use at today's concerts, but it's nice to be able to hear it well while still getting your insides rumbled. 

Big difference today El Barto.  I'd say the best sounding concerts have been PT for me.  The first time we saw them my wife, brother and I were mouth opened with that stunned look.  It's something I wish bands would have on albums today.  That separation of instruments yet loud and clear. 

Pink Floyd sounded like nothing i've ever heard in 1994 and in a stadium to top that. 
Steely Dan also blew my mind for sound too.  Crystal Clear.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 21, 2010, 07:59:08 AM
Is 35.
Is in incredible shape.
Is having random ED issues.
Is comfortable admitting it.
Is unsure how to proceed.

sigh.....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2010, 08:45:32 AM
Something I've only now fully realized, but my fellow fogies will also appreciate, is how much concert sound has improved since the good ole days.  It happened so gradually that you never really noticed that all of a sudden everything sounds great now.  I just got in from seeing Porcupine Tree, and it was fantastically loud, but still crystal clear and mixed flawlessly.  Remember all those arena shows in the 80s where you could barely make out what song they were playing?  I have a hard time remembering the last concert I went to that really sounded like shit.   I often wax nostalgic about the great, hedonistic concert mentality of our youth, but this is one damn welcome improvement.  I still think there's an appalling lack of nudity, conflagration and wanton drug use at today's concerts, but it's nice to be able to hear it well while still getting your insides rumbled. 
Spot on, El B.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2010, 08:47:36 AM
Something I've only now fully realized, but my fellow fogies will also appreciate, is how much concert sound has improved since the good ole days.  It happened so gradually that you never really noticed that all of a sudden everything sounds great now.  I just got in from seeing Porcupine Tree, and it was fantastically loud, but still crystal clear and mixed flawlessly.  Remember all those arena shows in the 80s where you could barely make out what song they were playing?  I have a hard time remembering the last concert I went to that really sounded like shit.   I often wax nostalgic about the great, hedonistic concert mentality of our youth, but this is one damn welcome improvement.  I still think there's an appalling lack of nudity, conflagration and wanton drug use at today's concerts, but it's nice to be able to hear it well while still getting your insides rumbled. 

Big difference today El Barto.  I'd say the best sounding concerts have been PT for me.  The first time we saw them my wife, brother and I were mouth opened with that stunned look.  It's something I wish bands would have on albums today.  That separation of instruments yet loud and clear. 

Pink Floyd sounded like nothing i've ever heard in 1994 and in a stadium to top that. 
Steely Dan also blew my mind for sound too.  Crystal Clear.
Man, I'm just trying to think back to seeing ACDC in the old days, and it was just a wall of noise.  Yet another reason why kids today have no clue just how fortunate they are.  Little shits.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2010, 08:51:46 AM
Is 35.
Is in incredible shape.
Is having random ED issues.
Is comfortable admitting it.
Is unsure how to proceed.

sigh.....
If you're comfortable admitting it to us, admit it to your doctor.  That's how you proceed.  Though to be honest, the word random suggests psychological causes, which is quite often the case.  You mention being in incredible shape, but it's probably your mental state that's the real consideration.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 21, 2010, 09:00:13 AM
^^....Im thinking its mental too......really weird.

And..now that it's on the brain....ITS ON THE BRAIN.....every time.
Fuk.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
We all go through emotional funks from time to time.  Learn to cope better with stress and eventually you'll be in a better mindset and forget about your issue.  For the time being, pressure is a bitch. 

Were it me, I'd get myself checked to be on the safe side, then work out my stress/depression/WTFever on my own.  Unfortunately, I suspect the doctor's solution might be SSRIs.  It's unfortunate that they've become the solution to all of life's problems.  Kind of a cop out, if you ask me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 21, 2010, 09:12:16 AM
A trip to see the doc to be sure sounds like the best first step.  It does kinda seem like SSRIs are kinda a "catch-all" solution to these kinds of things nowadays.

Not to derail a serious moment, but when you said "I'd get myself checked", it reminded me of the horoscope that came from Onion News this morning:

Quote
The stars, in their infinite wisdom, recommend that you check yourself this week, as not doing so might lead you to wreck yourself in the future.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 21, 2010, 09:20:19 AM
what are SSRI's?
Im not stressed.
I got enough money to be happy.
A great wife.
Good kid.
wtf.

ya...doc trip is likely.
sigh....

thanks fer listening.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 21, 2010, 09:34:28 AM
SSRIs are antidepressants - prescriptions like Lexapro, Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor

Questionable though - many years ago, my doc prescribed Paxil for me.  It made me completely physically incapable of "finishing", despite proper stimulation.  So if they suggest any kind of medication, may want to ask about any potential side effects, in hopes that they won't exacerbate the issue you're being seen for in the first place.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2010, 10:22:44 AM
Every doctor I've ever been to has wanted to prescribe one to me; even an ENT.  I recognize completely that stress or depression is the root of a great many problems, but random tinkering with brain chemistry is a pretty hap-hazard solution.  Ole Doc Millah might have a better insight, but it sure seems like a shitty approach to practicing medicine, IMO. 

On a side note, how's your blood pressure?  The leading cause of a shitload of problems, including yours. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 21, 2010, 10:47:27 AM
Withinthe norms...but I've always been on the low side of things. I have a very low/slow heart rate and blood preassure. (it's helped at a couple polygraphs!!!)

I get aroused, things begin...all is well....then...say 10 15 minutes in..if we pause or change positions....all of sudden.....wood gone. If we keep playing, fooling around...arousal returns later.

wtf?

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2010, 10:52:03 AM
Every doctor I've ever been to has wanted to prescribe one to me; even an ENT.  I recognize completely that stress or depression is the root of a great many problems, but random tinkering with brain chemistry is a pretty hap-hazard solution.  Ole Doc Millah might have a better insight, but it sure seems like a shitty approach to practicing medicine, IMO. 

On a side note, how's your blood pressure?  The leading cause of a shitload of problems, including yours. 
Your right on today Barto!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on April 21, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
(https://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/TheTexaspirate/smilies/icon_sage.gif) am I still a member in this club?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2010, 11:42:23 AM
Withinthe norms...but I've always been on the low side of things. I have a very low/slow heart rate and blood preassure. (it's helped at a couple polygraphs!!!)

I get aroused, things begin...all is well....then...say 10 15 minutes in..if we pause or change positions....all of sudden.....wood gone. If we keep playing, fooling around...arousal returns later.

wtf?


Hate to break it to ya, but that actually sounds more like the difference between 35 and 25.  I know my days of 3 hour wood ended years ago. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on April 21, 2010, 11:43:54 AM
I'm like a battleship.  One big shot then an eternity to reload.  42 hurts.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2010, 11:56:44 AM
I'm like a battleship.  One big shot then an eternity to reload.  42 hurts.
Yup, same here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on April 21, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
I wasnt suposed to live this long!  I planed to die before I hit thirty! now Im forty.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2010, 12:13:43 PM
I wasnt suposed to live this long!  I planed to die before I hit thirty! now Im forty.
maybe you actually died 10 years ago and don't know it?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 21, 2010, 12:20:00 PM
TTP is Keith Richards?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 21, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
I thought the forum was smelly today - so I looked around and the stench seems to be coming from this thread. Get your nurses to change your pants or something!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 21, 2010, 12:22:55 PM
Get your pacifier and get outta here, cupcake.  This is a place for the men of the forum.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dublagent66 on April 21, 2010, 12:32:49 PM
I stay away from doctors whenever possible.  It seems these days they are more interested in finding imaginary problems than fixing the ones you really do have just so they can push drugs for their Pharmaceutical sponsers.  Sad, sad, sad.   :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
Get your pacifier and get outta here, cupcake.  This is a place for the men of the forum.
DING!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2010, 02:42:49 PM
I stay away from doctors whenever possible.  It seems these days they are more interested in finding imaginary problems than fixing the ones you really do have just so they can push drugs for their Pharmaceutical sponsers.  Sad, sad, sad.   :sadpanda:
This is pretty close, but my take is that rather than looking for imaginary problems, they just treat any vague problem with whatever anti-depressant is sold by the hottest sales chick. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on April 22, 2010, 07:24:59 AM
Our son was diagnosed years ago with ADHD, BiPolar Disorder, and a few things I'd never even heard of, and his shrink did the whole "family consultation" thing.  She met with him, met with my wife and I separately, and then all together.  At some point, she suggested I try taking something that would help me feel less stressed and a bit more accepting and mellow in general.  At the time, I was willing to try anything, so I did.

It was interesting.  I did feel less stressful and generally mellower.  She strongly recommended against drinking coffee while taking the pills, though, and that was a tough one.  Less stressful is good, but getting your work done is also good, and not being as efficient at work was causing stress and countering the effects of the pill.  So I gave up the pills and went back to coffee.  It's cheaper, too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 22, 2010, 07:59:08 AM
Really not certain if I could be functional without my morning coffee crutch.  I get up, walk straight to the coffee maker, put a k-cup in and brew a fresh cup.  Absolute necessity to get my morning started properly.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: emindead on April 22, 2010, 09:44:29 AM
Man, I'm just trying to think back to seeing ACDC in the old days, and it was just a wall of noise.  Yet another reason why kids today have no clue just how fortunate they are.  Little shits.
You actually saw the great bands we adore in their prime and you cry about sound? Old shit!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2010, 09:50:44 AM
Man, I'm just trying to think back to seeing ACDC in the old days, and it was just a wall of noise.  Yet another reason why kids today have no clue just how fortunate they are.  Little shits.
You actually saw the great bands we adore in their prime and you cry about sound? Old shit!
Its a fair point but the sound issue is just valid and all were saying is its a shame it didn't sound as good back then as it does now.

Now, can I see an ID please? :tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 17, 2010, 05:52:16 AM
Bump to invite my fellow fogeys to vote in the Van Halen Survivor!

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=14950.0
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 17, 2010, 07:32:12 AM
Bump to invite my fellow fogeys to vote in the Van Halen Survivor!

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=14950.0
Done, Heff. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 17, 2010, 07:35:35 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 17, 2010, 08:04:05 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.
Sometimes that is needed far more then anything else you could possibly choose to do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 17, 2010, 08:07:30 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.

That is exactly what you and your wife needed to do, breath for a minute.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. SeaWolf on July 17, 2010, 09:04:08 AM
Damn, I'm only two years away from joining you guys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Zydar on July 17, 2010, 09:09:21 AM
Yeah, me too. December next year :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 17, 2010, 09:16:09 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.

That is exactly what you and your wife needed to do, breath for a minute.
We've definitely done that.  We watched a few films we hadn't gotten around to, and went out to eat a time or two.  Nothing special, but it's been great.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2010, 11:35:14 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.

That is exactly what you and your wife needed to do, breath for a minute.
We've definitely done that.  We watched a few films we hadn't gotten around to, and went out to eat a time or two.  Nothing special, but it's been great.
Peace and quiet rules.  That is all.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 17, 2010, 11:46:09 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.

That is exactly what you and your wife needed to do, breath for a minute.
We've definitely done that.  We watched a few films we hadn't gotten around to, and went out to eat a time or two.  Nothing special, but it's been great.
Peace and quiet rules.  That is all.
Unless your at say a Dream Theater concert.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2010, 11:51:08 AM
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 17, 2010, 03:06:11 PM
Indeed.  I would love to see them again.  Hopefully, since they successfully came to North Carolina with Prog Nation, they will come closer on their next tour.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 19, 2010, 10:55:56 AM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.

We used to do that when the kids were younger.  It was awesome.

You don't have to do anything.  Just take some time to reconnect as a couple.  The couple you were when you were dating, and when you first got married before the kids came (if you actually did things in that order, which I guess isn't a given).

This week will be strange.  Our daughter is away at camp, and our son turns 18 on Wednesday.  The celebration of his attaining legal adulthood will be somewhat hampered by the fact that he hasn't actually done anything he needed to do prior to this event.  Find a job, find a place to live, actually come up with a plan for what he's gonna do with his fucking life.

But whatever.  I'm getting too old to give a shit anymore.  I've tried for 18 years to help this kid, offer the wisdom I've gathered and maybe help him avoid the same mistakes I made, and he's refused it every step of the way.  Let him find out how the world works the hard way, I guess.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on July 19, 2010, 11:02:23 AM
Peace and quiet is an all too often overlooked luxury in peoples' lives.


Damn, I'm only two years away from joining you guys.

When I saw your avatar caption for the first time, I thought it said "Sacred Prophet of Bokononism" and I found it cool, until I realized I was mistaken. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 19, 2010, 07:27:56 PM
Thanks, man!

BTW, I know I'm getting old.  My kids were out of town all week with my parents, and my wife and I DIDN'T...DO...ANYTHING.  We just kind of enjoyed the peace and quiet.

We used to do that when the kids were younger.  It was awesome.

You don't have to do anything.  Just take some time to reconnect as a couple.  The couple you were when you were dating, and when you first got married before the kids came (if you actually did things in that order, which I guess isn't a given).
We didn't, really.  When my wife and I met and started dating, her daugher from a previous relationship was 18 months old.  After the scumshit parental unit GAVE UP his parental rights, I adopted her after we got married.  But basically, we've never had a time when it was just us, before kids.  That's why we really like it when the kids are away.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 24, 2010, 05:22:08 AM
Thought you guys would enjoy this.  :biggrin:

https://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/07/23/todays-cane-shaking-on-the-lawn-apps/
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on July 24, 2010, 07:21:31 AM
Thought you guys would enjoy this.  :biggrin:

https://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/07/23/todays-cane-shaking-on-the-lawn-apps/
Good one. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 24, 2010, 07:51:26 AM
Ah, the pain of being old.  My son turned 18 the other day.  I am now father to an adult.

Also, I seem to have this adult living in my house who does not pay rent, does not have a job, and realistically, given the way the economy is right now, doesn't actually have a decent chance of finding one.  Yeah, grocery stores always need baggers, fast-food places always need people, but amazingly, no bites yet.

So now he's our slave.  Garbage and recyling detail, moving the cars around when we need them, driving his little sister places when we're both at work, etc.  He's gonna pay his way somehow, dammit.  And if doesn't like it, he can find a damned job and move out.

Except he can't find a job.  Well, ain't that a bitch?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 24, 2010, 08:00:04 AM
I'm going to take a beating hear but I went to a concert last night I never though I'd go to and had a fun time.  I was called sir at least 6 times and had to laugh cause I was in the top 5% of being the oldest there.  *Drumroll Please*    *Gulp*   Hanson, with Rooney opening.  They were very good. Great harmonies and all could play their instruments very well.  Solo's too!  I always said I'd geep my mind open to music but it wasn't hard to feel like an old fogey their.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 24, 2010, 08:09:45 AM
I always thought Hanson were pretty talented guys.  Yeah, their music isn't exactly prog, but I try to geep an open mind too, and I caught part of a concert thing of theirs years ago on TV and thought it was pretty good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on July 24, 2010, 11:28:06 AM
You put off picking a caption winner to go see Hanson?!?!?!?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 24, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
You put off picking a caption winner to go see Hanson?!?!?!?  :facepalm:

LOL.  And to add unsult, I was called sir at least 6 times. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on July 24, 2010, 11:32:59 AM
I've actually gotten to the point where I want the snotty nosed shits to call me sir.  I think I've earned it at this point.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on July 24, 2010, 11:48:38 AM
Ditto. Show some respect, you little punk!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2010, 04:11:52 PM
I've actually gotten to the point where I want the snotty nosed shits to call me sir.  I think I've earned it at this point.
:lol

I'm going to take a beating hear but I went to a concert last night I never though I'd go to and had a fun time.  I was called sir at least 6 times and had to laugh cause I was in the top 5% of being the oldest there.  *Drumroll Please*    *Gulp*   Hanson, with Rooney opening.  They were very good. Great harmonies and all could play their instruments very well.  Solo's too!  I always said I'd geep my mind open to music but it wasn't hard to feel like an old fogey their.

Haven't you been posting all week about tastes maturing??  :lol
Hanson? You're going backwards , man!
I hear Hannah Montana might be touring!


Actually, from afar, there does seem to be some integrity with them and what they do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 24, 2010, 08:29:59 PM
LOL TAC!! LOL.  My wife for years has liked them so I figured, what the hell.  They realy did surprise me so I figured I'd grow some balls and post about it.  It was funny going into the mens bathroom with no lines whatsoever.  My world was turned upside down.

On the integrity part.  Mabye people took me the wrong way, but the once angry man who loved the angry or sexed up lyrics is not the same person.  I think we all go through this as we get older but I can still crank the old songs still. I just feel differently about them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on July 25, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
King, I wasn't remarking on YOUR integrity. I was talking about Hanson. There is something respectable about them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on July 25, 2010, 01:18:41 PM
King, I wasn't remarking on YOUR integrity. I was talking about Hanson. There is something respectable about them.
I get you!  They write their own songs, play their own instruments, great harmonies.  I'm not saying I'd go all the time but it was fun.  I'll make up for it when I see rush in Sept! ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on August 08, 2010, 03:53:35 AM
I have a quesiton for those married or in long term co-habiting relationships. It's been said that the mating instinct is behind "falling in love" which may or may not lead to *true* love. So, did you experience the falling out of love and have to make the transition to genuine love - love for the other person that requires effort?

I can imagine a situation when after the initial "I can't believe this is happening to me" of "falling in love" when the other person's independence becomes clear, say they want to do something you don't or even away from you. How did you deal with that? What tells you that your spouse is committed to you, how do you know?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on August 08, 2010, 05:34:38 AM
Part of a long term relationship is the sacrifice.  Once I knew my wife was the one you realize you have to do things that makes her happy and she would do the same.  I'd say that I love my wife even stronger now because of the experiances we went through together.  It's bonded our love even stronger.

Andy, I've never realy thought about what your asking throughout our courtship and 15 plus years of marriage because I dove head first into our relationship and never looked back.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on August 08, 2010, 05:40:42 AM
I'm going to take a beating hear but I went to a concert last night I never though I'd go to and had a fun time.  I was called sir at least 6 times and had to laugh cause I was in the top 5% of being the oldest there.  *Drumroll Please*    *Gulp*   Hanson, with Rooney opening.  They were very good. Great harmonies and all could play their instruments very well.  Solo's too!  I always said I'd geep my mind open to music but it wasn't hard to feel like an old fogey their.
ROONEY!!

Those guys played on an episode of the OC Season One, which, for some reason, I saw a fair bit of. I recall them having a few listenable songs. They were kind of Weezer meets Beach Boys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on August 08, 2010, 05:43:08 AM
I'm going to take a beating hear but I went to a concert last night I never though I'd go to and had a fun time.  I was called sir at least 6 times and had to laugh cause I was in the top 5% of being the oldest there.  *Drumroll Please*    *Gulp*   Hanson, with Rooney opening.  They were very good. Great harmonies and all could play their instruments very well.  Solo's too!  I always said I'd geep my mind open to music but it wasn't hard to feel like an old fogey their.
ROONEY!!

Those guys played on an episode of the OC Season One, which, for some reason, I saw a fair bit of. I recall them having a few listenable songs. They were kind of Weezer meets Beach Boys.

Fluffy your description of Rooney is dead on.  The lead guitarist had some great solo's which fell on deaf ears with all the 20 something girls. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 08, 2010, 05:44:45 AM
I have a quesiton for those married or in long term co-habiting relationships. It's been said that the mating instinct is behind "falling in love" which may or may not lead to *true* love. So, did you experience the falling out of love and have to make the transition to genuine love - love for the other person that requires effort?
The initial headiness is not "falling in love."  The transition you're talking about is falling love.  And it develops naturally.  

I can imagine a situation when after the initial "I can't believe this is happening to me" of "falling in love" when the other person's independence becomes clear, say they want to do something you don't or even away from you. How did you deal with that? What tells you that your spouse is committed to you, how do you know?
There's nothing to deal with.  Everyone is different, every woman you meet will have tastes different than you, and will want to do some things that she finds fulfilling that you couldn't care less about.  Let her do them, that's not a issue of commitment.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on August 08, 2010, 07:28:09 AM
I have a quesiton for those married or in long term co-habiting relationships. It's been said that the mating instinct is behind "falling in love" which may or may not lead to *true* love. So, did you experience the falling out of love and have to make the transition to genuine love - love for the other person that requires effort?
The initial headiness is not "falling in love."  The transition you're talking about is falling love.  And it develops naturally.  

That's what I'm suggesting, it's not falling in love, the love comes after. I wouldn't know as I didn't get the chance to consumate a "falling in love" feeling.

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I can imagine a situation when after the initial "I can't believe this is happening to me" of "falling in love" when the other person's independence becomes clear, say they want to do something you don't or even away from you. How did you deal with that? What tells you that your spouse is committed to you, how do you know?
There's nothing to deal with.  Everyone is different, every woman you meet will have tastes different than you, and will want to do some things that she finds fulfilling that you couldn't care less about.  Let her do them, that's not a issue of commitment.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 25, 2010, 09:16:47 AM
 Blonde went to Brown. Brown went to Gray. Fast turned to slow as youth passed away. - tick 2010
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2010, 09:44:41 AM
Looking at WWII picks again tick and found this thread I see.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on September 25, 2010, 11:48:11 AM
Blonde went to Brown. Brown went to Gray. Fast turned to slow as youth passed away. - tick 2010
Shit, I started graying in my teens.  Thankfully though, both my grandfathers died with a semi full head of salt and pepper, and it looks like I'm following that path.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 25, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
When your 20, 45 is old. When your 45, 70 is young.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 26, 2010, 08:10:27 AM
For the last 2 months I'm having a hard time focusing when I read.  I was the last holdout in my family to not need glasses.  My eyes are getting old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on September 26, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
For some reason, that was a tough one for me, too.  I don't like the idea of picking up something and not being able to read it clearly, knowing that in the past I could have done so perfectly well.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on September 27, 2010, 02:11:15 PM
That's one where I'm actually on the good side.  My eyesight has weekend a bit, but it started from such a high level that I've only now deteriorated to 20/20 in my right eye.  Left is still 20/15, which is down as well.  Heredity was a mixed draw for me, but I drew an ace for eyesight. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on September 27, 2010, 02:16:38 PM
I need to get my eyes checked. It just started to happen 2 months ago. I'm setting it up for Oct.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2010, 04:06:56 PM
I've had reading glasses for about 9 years now. Mainly for work using the computer and reading reports.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on September 27, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
I have great eyesight. Not quite what he used to be but still probably 20/15
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 12, 2010, 08:51:32 AM
I put this in the funny thread and then thought. The kids won't find any humor in it so...
(https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs156.snc4/37147_1202082388284_1715329656_412758_6232490_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 12, 2010, 11:13:45 AM
I put this in the funny thread and then thought. The kids won't find any humor in it so...
(https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs156.snc4/37147_1202082388284_1715329656_412758_6232490_n.jpg)

It must come in an enima. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 12, 2010, 11:15:14 AM
Touche.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 12, 2010, 11:40:47 AM
As I just mentioned in another thread, I occasionally get nostalgic for the mayhem that used to be so acceptable.  You guys remember when you could torment pedestrians?  Nowadays, kids walk right down the middle of the street and expect drivers to wait, or go around, or whatever.  When I first got my license, they weren't even safe on the sidewalks.  Law and order ain't all that it's cracked up to be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 12, 2010, 12:00:20 PM
I hear you.  I remember driving through my neighborhood one time, and these kids were playing ball in the street.  No biggie, I don't have a problem waiting for them to move out of the way, if they seem to not intentionally be taking any longer than necessary.  One of the kids had his back to me, and someone else yelled something at him, so he turned around and literally stood there looking at me.  He then yelled something to his friends (probably "watch this!") and crossed him arms.  So now he is standing in the road, facing me, arms crossed.  Are you kidding? 

I hadn't stopped anyway, only slowed way down, so I continued toward him.  He stood there facing me down, then dashed out of the way at the last second, yelling something at me as his friends laughed.  Moron.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 12, 2010, 02:04:14 PM
I hear you.  I remember driving through my neighborhood one time, and these kids were playing ball in the street.  No biggie, I don't have a problem waiting for them to move out of the way, if they seem to not intentionally be taking any longer than necessary.  One of the kids had his back to me, and someone else yelled something at him, so he turned around and literally stood there looking at me.  He then yelled something to his friends (probably "watch this!") and crossed him arms.  So now he is standing in the road, facing me, arms crossed.  Are you kidding?  

I hadn't stopped anyway, only slowed way down, so I continued toward him.  He stood there facing me down, then dashed out of the way at the last second, yelling something at me as his friends laughed.  Moron.
Fucking kids today are little dicks. You just want to smack them upside the head and watch them cry and piss their pants. Then they say fuck you and threaten to sue you. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 12, 2010, 02:14:57 PM
As I just mentioned in another thread, I occasionally get nostalgic for the mayhem that used to be so acceptable.  You guys remember when you could torment pedestrians?  Nowadays, kids walk right down the middle of the street and expect drivers to wait, or go around, or whatever.  When I first got my license, they weren't even safe on the sidewalks.  Law and order ain't all that it's cracked up to be.

I just had this conversation with some friends saturday night.  I was taught that, as a pedestrian I would wait till the driver waved me on before I crosses the street. Now, kids look at you sideways as they glare at you as to say, "Dude, you better stop".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2010, 02:18:20 PM
You know how some states have tax free holdays?..Well they need a Hit A F##king Punk Ass Kid Pedestrian Day. Just for one day a year, no threat of a lawsuit. Then back to normal the next day!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 12, 2010, 02:28:41 PM
Oh, that would be so sweet!  There are specific parts of town I would make sure I drove through on that day.  Culling of the weak and all that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 12, 2010, 03:50:44 PM
You know how some states have tax free holdays?..Well they need a Hit A F##king Punk Ass Kid Pedestrian Day. Just for one day a year, no threat of a lawsuit. Then back to normal the next day!

Death Race 3000, The Next Generation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 12, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
You know how some states have tax free holdays?..Well they need a Hit A F##king Punk Ass Kid Pedestrian Day. Just for one day a year, no threat of a lawsuit. Then back to normal the next day!

Death Race 3000, The Next Generation.

I just made my kids watch the Original Death Race 2000 this weekend.....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 12, 2010, 04:44:54 PM
You know how some states have tax free holdays?..Well they need a Hit A F##king Punk Ass Kid Pedestrian Day. Just for one day a year, no threat of a lawsuit. Then back to normal the next day!

Death Race 3000, The Next Generation.

I just made my kids watch the Original Death Race 2000 this weekend.....

You are my parental hero.  Should I ever have kids, I will call you for advice often.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2010, 12:03:50 PM
So today I hit a new level of old.  My daughter turned 17.  Damn the time goes by so quick.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 19, 2010, 12:42:25 PM
So today I hit a new level of old.  My daughter turned 17.  Damn the time goes by so quick.
Have your killed any teenage boys yet?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2010, 12:50:04 PM
So today I hit a new level of old.  My daughter turned 17.  Damn the time goes by so quick.
Have your killed any teenage boys yet?
I would have, if we did not live in different states from each other.  Her present boyfriend snuck into her room in the middle of the night.  I'm actually suprised my ex didn't kill him.  She's more than capable.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 19, 2010, 02:25:59 PM
Damn!  If I ever caught a guy sneaking into my daughter's room... well, he might live, but he will never reproduce.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 19, 2010, 02:30:00 PM
Damn!  If I ever caught a guy sneaking into my daughter's room... well, he might live, but he will never reproduce.
Atta boy!!!!
I am scared of the thought of my daughter becoming a teenager!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: sonatafanica on October 19, 2010, 02:31:04 PM
I can't wait until I'm a father so I can start condoning the behavior that made me a parent in the first place.


Wait, who am I kidding, I'm in no danger of becoming a father.

I CAN FEEL MY YOUTHFULNESS FILLING MY VEINS
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2010, 02:34:48 PM
If I was still with my ex, I probably would have had a nice long chat with the lad about respect, while cleaning my gun.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 19, 2010, 02:39:33 PM
If I was still with my ex, I probably would have had a nice long chat with the lad about respect, while cleaning my gun.
Then threaten to saute him in garlic and shallots and reduce him by half in a white wine reduction sauce.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 20, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
My daughter is going on her first "date" Friday night.

This is difficult.

BTW, all of you fogeys, go and vote in the Van Halen Survivor!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2010, 09:51:14 AM

BTW, all of you fogeys, go and vote in the Van Halen Survivor!
Done!

I'm glad I have boys. I have a hard enough time watching guys look at The Lovely Mrs. TAC..I know I couldn't handle guys looking at my daughter that way.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 20, 2010, 02:52:08 PM
My son Kenneth was telling me about something his friends said.  One of them said "Have you ever seen Kenneth's dad?"  The other said he wasn't sure.  The first one said "Oh, you'd know it because he looks like he could kill you."   :lol  (I think I may have told that story here before.)

Honestly, I'm not looking forward to my daughter starting to date, but I don't expect much trouble, once I sit the boy down and "explain" things.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Rina on October 20, 2010, 02:53:54 PM
Part of a long term relationship is the sacrifice.  Once I knew my wife was the one you realize you have to do things that makes her happy and she would do the same.  I'd say that I love my wife even stronger now because of the experiances we went through together.  It's bonded our love even stronger.

Andy, I've never realy thought about what your asking throughout our courtship and 15 plus years of marriage because I dove head first into our relationship and never looked back.


Awwwwwwwwwwww.....  :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 20, 2010, 03:10:07 PM
My daughter is going on her first "date" Friday night.

This is difficult.

BTW, all of you fogeys, go and vote in the Van Halen Survivor!
Good luck.  Remember to display your firearms prominently in the living room.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 20, 2010, 04:46:18 PM
Part of a long term relationship is the sacrifice.  Once I knew my wife was the one you realize you have to do things that makes her happy and she would do the same.  I'd say that I love my wife even stronger now because of the experiances we went through together.  It's bonded our love even stronger.

Andy, I've never realy thought about what your asking throughout our courtship and 15 plus years of marriage because I dove head first into our relationship and never looked back.

Awwwwwwwwwwww.....  :heart


 :blush :heart

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 20, 2010, 06:00:07 PM
The one time I was on the receiving end of that talk, 86 or so, the girl's father was a dead ringer for Arne Anderson.  He was also a former Dallas cop, and an avid bow hunter.  He made sure to demonstrate to me the workings of compound bows for quite a while.  Not pleasant at all.

Of course I was already doing dirty, dirty things to his daughter, so I think I won that round. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on October 20, 2010, 08:52:40 PM
Awesome!  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Rina on October 20, 2010, 09:10:07 PM
Part of a long term relationship is the sacrifice.  Once I knew my wife was the one you realize you have to do things that makes her happy and she would do the same.  I'd say that I love my wife even stronger now because of the experiances we went through together.  It's bonded our love even stronger.

Andy, I've never realy thought about what your asking throughout our courtship and 15 plus years of marriage because I dove head first into our relationship and never looked back.

Awwwwwwwwwwww.....  :heart


 :blush :heart



My favorite post this year.  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 21, 2010, 05:15:26 AM
I actually know who Arne Anderson is, and that would have been scary.

I showed up for date one, mohawk pony tail, muscle shirt......future father in law comes out...doesn't say hi.....instead says "what's that on your arm?" (my Sepultura "S" tattoo) I said---"it's an "S" made of bones" he says----"what's it stand for -shithead-, why don' you get an F on the other arm for fuckhead"........and walks off.


...........ya..Im SO doing yer daughter later!
I married her.
But still!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 21, 2010, 08:39:18 AM

I showed up for date one, mohawk pony tail, muscle shirt......future father in law comes out...doesn't say hi.....instead says "what's that on your arm?" (my Sepultura "S" tattoo) I said---"it's an "S" made of bones" he says----"what's it stand for -shithead-, why don' you get an F on the other arm for fuckhead"........and walks off.

Damn.  That's harsh.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 21, 2010, 09:40:20 AM

I showed up for date one, mohawk pony tail, muscle shirt......future father in law comes out...doesn't say hi.....instead says "what's that on your arm?" (my Sepultura "S" tattoo) I said---"it's an "S" made of bones" he says----"what's it stand for -shithead-, why don' you get an F on the other arm for fuckhead"........and walks off.

Damn.  That's harsh.
Harsh? Its fucking beautiful!!! Your father in law is my idol!!! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 21, 2010, 11:18:41 AM
ytse, does he sit at the dining room table and still say, " tell the shithead to pass the gravy"? :laugh:  Or is it better now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 21, 2010, 11:28:02 AM
ytse, does he sit at the diningroom table and still say, " tell the shithead to pass the gravy"? :laugh:  Or is it better now.
He says, "hey cross bones, pass the fucking gravy you moron." :lol


just kidding! :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 21, 2010, 11:41:32 AM

I showed up for date one, mohawk pony tail, muscle shirt......future father in law comes out...doesn't say hi.....instead says "what's that on your arm?" (my Sepultura "S" tattoo) I said---"it's an "S" made of bones" he says----"what's it stand for -shithead-, why don' you get an F on the other arm for fuckhead"........and walks off.

Damn.  That's harsh.
Harsh? Its fucking beautiful!!! Your father in law is my idol!!! :lol

No way.  The last thing you want is somebody grudgefucking your daughter while listening to Chaos AD full blast. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 21, 2010, 11:50:48 AM
(snicker)

He's alright now....he's the master at embelishing stories...but calls me immeidately on my bullshit!??!?!
Now whenever he's annoyed with me or something I've said he just makes the face....the same one he made when he made the above comment.



I let him have his fun.
She's daddy's girl, even though there are three other kids, she's he chosen one.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 21, 2010, 12:35:32 PM
(snicker)

He's alright now....he's the master at embelishing stories...but calls me immeidately on my bullshit!??!?!
Now whenever he's annoyed with me or something I've said he just makes the face....the same one he made when he made the above comment.



I let him have his fun.
She's daddy's girl, even though there are three other kids, she's he chosen one.
At least he loves his daughter and shows his emotion because he does. I guess at least you should admire that even if his a bit abrasive?  I know myself, and I will give shit to my daughters boyfriends if warranted. If they win my respect however, they will certainly get it. If they don't I will be there worst nightmare! I love my daughter so much it hurts!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 21, 2010, 02:50:57 PM
Fogeys, check this out!!! The original Chiller theater opening! Who remembers this? This scared the crap out of me as a kid. My kid just laughed at me for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUJG3DSziw&feature=related
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 21, 2010, 02:59:41 PM
Fogeys, check this out!!! The original Chiller theater opening! Who remembers this? This scared the crap out of me as a kid. My kid just laughed at me for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUJG3DSziw&feature=related

Awesome I can remember being glued to the TV when this came on.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 21, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
I don't recall Chiller Theater...but up here we had Creature Double Feature! :metal


Which reminds me..to anyone going to Disney World..the Sci Fi Drive In Diner is a MUST!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 21, 2010, 04:19:52 PM
I don't recall Chiller Theater...but up here we had Creature Double Feature! :metal


Which reminds me..to anyone going to Disney World..the Sci Fi Drive In Diner is a MUST!
I'm going to Disney World in 52 days and counting!

If you have 3 people altogether, can you be split up? I thought I read that online about sci fi. What makes it a must?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 21, 2010, 05:08:27 PM
I don't recall Chiller Theater...but up here we had Creature Double Feature! :metal

This 1000%
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 21, 2010, 08:24:19 PM
I don't recall Chiller Theater...but up here we had Creature Double Feature! :metal


Which reminds me..to anyone going to Disney World..the Sci Fi Drive In Diner is a MUST!
I'm going to Disney World in 52 days and counting!

If you have 3 people altogether, can you be split up? I thought I read that online about sci fi. What makes it a must?

Are you going over Christmas break? We're going over Feb vacation.

Best burger in Disney World. They play scenes to old monster movies while you eat on a drive in screen. It's very cool! Be sure to go there for lunch!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 21, 2010, 08:30:24 PM
I don't recall Chiller Theater...but up here we had Creature Double Feature! :metal


Which reminds me..to anyone going to Disney World..the Sci Fi Drive In Diner is a MUST!
I'm going to Disney World in 52 days and counting!

If you have 3 people altogether, can you be split up? I thought I read that online about sci fi. What makes it a must?

Are you going over Christmas break? We're going over Feb vacation.

Best burger in Disney World. They play scenes to old monster movies while you eat on a drive in screen. It's very cool! Be sure to go there for lunch!
Going before Christmas. I'm going from the 13th to the 19th. I am taking my daughter out of school for a week. We did this in 07 and it worked out well. When I'm spending a lot of money I like to maximize it by having smaller crowds. It was great in 07.
Cant wait to go back!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 21, 2010, 08:42:22 PM
Where are you staying? On Disney property?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 05:46:43 AM
Where are you staying? On Disney property?
Yes. We stayed at Caribbean Beach in 07. This year money is tight so were staying at All Star Music. Don't spend much time at the hotel anyways so...
This is a big year in my house. My daughter turned 10, my wife turned 40, and I celebrated my 15th wedding anniversary, so Disney had to happen this year!

Back to Sci Fi. If there are 3 people, one has to sit alone in the car? I talked to my wife this morning and she is going to book it if there is still availability. It sounds fun, and I love a good burger!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 22, 2010, 05:55:28 AM
Where are you staying? On Disney property?
Yes. We stayed at Caribbean Beach in 07. This year money is tight so were staying at All Star Music. Don't spend much time at the hotel anyways so...
This is a big year in my house. My daughter turned 10, my wife turned 40, and I celebrated my 15th wedding anniversary, so Disney had to happen this year!

Back to Sci Fi. If there are 3 people, one has to sit alone in the car? I talked to my wife this morning and she is going to book it if there is still availability. It sounds fun, and I love a good burger!

hmm sounds like I'm just a couple "life" steps behind you Tick.
12th wedding anniversary this year
son turns 8
wife and I just turned 36.

I like how your numbers lined up this year for the Disney trip....that will be us in a couple. We go to Florida every year because my mom owns a house in Porte Charlotte. This year will be no different. We'll go in March. Arrive in Tampa on a Thursday, do an overnight in Tampa and spend the Friday at Busch Gardens, then see a Tampa Bay Lightning (playing our home town Ottawa Senators) in Tampa. Then back to Porte Charlotte for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 06:34:05 AM
Where are you staying? On Disney property?
Yes. We stayed at Caribbean Beach in 07. This year money is tight so were staying at All Star Music. Don't spend much time at the hotel anyways so...
This is a big year in my house. My daughter turned 10, my wife turned 40, and I celebrated my 15th wedding anniversary, so Disney had to happen this year!

Back to Sci Fi. If there are 3 people, one has to sit alone in the car? I talked to my wife this morning and she is going to book it if there is still availability. It sounds fun, and I love a good burger!

hmm sounds like I'm just a couple "life" steps behind you Tick.
12th wedding anniversary this year
son turns 8
wife and I just turned 36.

I like how your numbers lined up this year for the Disney trip....that will be us in a couple. We go to Florida every year because my mom owns a house in Porte Charlotte. This year will be no different. We'll go in March. Arrive in Tampa on a Thursday, do an overnight in Tampa and spend the Friday at Busch Gardens, then see a Tampa Bay Lightning (playing our home town Ottawa Senators) in Tampa. Then back to Porte Charlotte for the rest of the week.
Well, my wife just turned 40, but I just turned 46. Its ok though, I am young at heart.
I found out when I met my wife that as a teen I dated her babysitter. That was weird.She was 23 when we met and I was 29. I loved the fact that I met a girl who knew nothing about me or the fact I was a lead singer in a popular band. She quickly heard from many women to avoid me because I was a whore master. I told her, don't believe rumors, I'm really a nice guy. (Sure I had my share of women, but I was rarely a dick to the point that I used women)She decided to judge for herself and found out I was the nicest gentlemen she had ever dated. She then told her friends they were dead wrong about me! We got engaged 6 months later, and then married 12 months after that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 22, 2010, 06:43:01 AM
Where are you staying? On Disney property?
Yes. We stayed at Caribbean Beach in 07. This year money is tight so were staying at All Star Music. Don't spend much time at the hotel anyways so...
This is a big year in my house. My daughter turned 10, my wife turned 40, and I celebrated my 15th wedding anniversary, so Disney had to happen this year!

Back to Sci Fi. If there are 3 people, one has to sit alone in the car? I talked to my wife this morning and she is going to book it if there is still availability. It sounds fun, and I love a good burger!

to answer your question about how you would fit, you could squeeze into on row but most likely 2 in the front one in the back

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/sci-fi-dine-in-theater/
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 22, 2010, 06:44:29 AM
nice.....people are much better off forming their own opinions than listening to others. Just for that your wife scores points.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
Tick,the cars have 3 rows in them that seat 2 people each. It's possible that they may put a couple in the last row behind you, but it's not intrusive at all. They show old wacky monster movie space alien clips on a giant screen. It's very cool.
The burger wins by default because it's the only one that doesn't give me a stomach ache down there.

The coolest thing about the All Star Music is the wall of fame. All great pictures of music celebrities at Disney. I've had my pic taken with the Alice Cooper one a couple of times.

Tick, I'm the complete opposite. The Lovely Mrs. TAC was 46 when I turned 40.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 11:14:14 AM
Tick,the cars have 3 rows in them that seat 2 people each. It's possible that they may put a couple in the last row behind you, but it's not intrusive at all. They show old wacky monster movie space alien clips on a giant screen. It's very cool.
The burger wins by default because it's the only one that doesn't give me a stomach ache down there.

The coolest thing about the All Star Music is the wall of fame. All great pictures of music celebrities at Disney. I've had my pic taken with the Alice Cooper one a couple of times.

Tick, I'm the complete opposite. The Lovely Mrs. TAC was 46 when I turned 40.
Yeah, I want to go to the Sci Fi place now.

As far as age goes, 6 years is nothing either way! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 22, 2010, 11:20:49 AM
Wow.  I stayed at the Disney All Star Music hotel 10 years ago.  The last time we went to Disney.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 22, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
I have a hard enough time watching guys look at The Lovely Mrs. TAC.

Wear that like a badge of honor.  She's obviously hot enough to keep on turning heads and she chose you to be the one who gets to go home with her at the end of the day.  Every day.  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 12:00:06 PM
Wow.  I stayed at the Disney All Star Music hotel 10 years ago.  The last time we went to Disney.
How did you like it?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2010, 12:10:03 PM
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I have a hard enough time watching guys look at The Lovely Mrs. TAC.

Wear that like a badge of honor.  She's obviously hot enough to keep on turning heads and she chose you to be the one who gets to go home with her at the end of the day.  Every day.  :tup
Hell yeah!!

How was Bermuda?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 22, 2010, 12:19:05 PM
Unbelievable.  We had such a good time.  The weather could not have been more perfect.  It apparently never snows or frosts in Bermuda.  Their all-time record low was something like 46.  The high/low when we were there was like 78/74 or something like that.  We stood in waist deep water and were able to see our feet as clearly as if we'd been standing on dry land.  Took a 10PM glass bottom boat excursion into the triangle.  They had big lights that illuminated the water below, so we could see the fish, coral, and the shipwreck of the HMS Vixen.

There was a little cove near where our ship was docked, where we went to get some pictures of the sunset.  Just as the sun was nearing the horizon a boat came along.  I got several pictures, but the photo op was one I'll probably NEVER have again:

(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_rhPUkLTks2s/TMDPWiIyNFI/AAAAAAAABEY/E_5vPYaONv4/s640/Bermuda%20Sunset%20fixed.JPG)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2010, 12:46:28 PM
Coz, here's something you'd appreciate. We stayed at the Grotto Bay and one day on the beach, they were doing a model photo shoot.

Tremendous pic BTW. If I have time next week, I'll try and scan some in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 22, 2010, 12:50:34 PM
Very nice.  That would've been entirely up my alley.  Funny enough, the next day, we went back to this cove to actually get IN the water (which was surprisingly cold).  We rented a little paddle boat (foot action pedals) and paddled out and around for a half hour or so.  Upon getting back to the beach, I notice there's two topless chicks on the beach directly in front of us.  So we pull our boat up onto the sand, go back over to the stand to turn in our life jackets, and I mention to Mrs. Coz "I didn't realize this was a topless beach" and she's like "What are you talking about?"  I point out the two chicks and say "they were directly in front of us and we walked right past them."  She reminded me that she doesn't have a "boob radar" like I do.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2010, 01:13:00 PM
Outstanding!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
Unbelievable.  We had such a good time.  The weather could not have been more perfect.  It apparently never snows or frosts in Bermuda.  Their all-time record low was something like 46.  The high/low when we were there was like 78/74 or something like that.  We stood in waist deep water and were able to see our feet as clearly as if we'd been standing on dry land.  Took a 10PM glass bottom boat excursion into the triangle.  They had big lights that illuminated the water below, so we could see the fish, coral, and the shipwreck of the HMS Vixen.

There was a little cove near where our ship was docked, where we went to get some pictures of the sunset.  Just as the sun was nearing the horizon a boat came along.  I got several pictures, but the photo op was one I'll probably NEVER have again:

(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_rhPUkLTks2s/TMDPWiIyNFI/AAAAAAAABEY/E_5vPYaONv4/s640/Bermuda%20Sunset%20fixed.JPG)
Wow! Fantastic photo Coz!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 22, 2010, 01:35:22 PM
Thanks!  Every time I see it, I'm like "this looks like the kind of picture a professional would take, like something on a postcard".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 01:45:31 PM
Thanks!  Every time I see it, I'm like "this looks like the kind of picture a professional would take, like something on a postcard".
It sure as hell is! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: zerogravityfat on October 22, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
hey i qualify for this club in 2 months, sweet.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 01:56:29 PM
hey i qualify for this club in 2 months, sweet.
Then you had better apply for membership now. Their is a lot of Red tape involved, back ground checks, drug testing, physical, etc...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 22, 2010, 02:06:36 PM
Wow.  I stayed at the Disney All Star Music hotel 10 years ago.  The last time we went to Disney.
How did you like it?

I loved it.  It was easy to hop on a bus and go to Epcot or Magic Kingdom Ect.  Even at my age, it's a blast to go.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 22, 2010, 02:09:02 PM
hey i qualify for this club in 2 months, sweet.
Then you had better apply for membership now. Their is a lot of Red tape involved, back ground checks, drug testing, physical, etc...
tick, he's a hockey fan, he's in. :laugh:

Cozmo, That pic is amazing.  It's one that will stir great memories everytime you look at it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 22, 2010, 02:10:36 PM
Cozmo, That pic is amazing.  It's one that will stir great memories everytime you look at it.

Thanks!  I'm quite sure it will have that effect on me the rest of my life.   :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2010, 02:32:36 PM
drug testing, etc...
...to make sure you're on them....Prescription, of course!

Thanks!  I'm quite sure it will have that effect on me the rest of my life.   :D
Nah..I'm pretty sure it will be the 2 pairs of boobs..
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 22, 2010, 02:38:11 PM
hey i qualify for this club in 2 months, sweet.
Then you had better apply for membership now. Their is a lot of Red tape involved, back ground checks, drug testing, physical, etc...
Don't forget the prostate exam.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on October 22, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
I have been to Disney 7 times in the last 10 years and 10 times total in the past 15  and always stay at one of the All-star resorts. I don't need a fancy room, hell the only time we are in it is when we are sleeping. Rather have the extra cash to spend while in the parks. I still use my kids as an excuse to go, but I'm really just going for myself.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 22, 2010, 04:19:09 PM
Cozmo, how was the food and the alcohol? 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 22, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
All of it was awesome.  Our total alcohol bill was around $240, so that wasn't too bad.  There was the main dining hall and a cafe that was basically a huge circular buffet.  Breakfast and lunch were at least a two plate meal each day.  At dinner, I had the chance to try snails (in a thick garlic butter sauce) and lobster tail.  Neither bowled me over.  I would eat the lobster again, but I wouldn't go out of my way to get it.  I figured that since we weren't paying for food, I'd try things I wouldn't normally.  Otherwise, it was all I had hoped it would be.  Food was excellent.  I had many banana daiquiris.  I don't care if they're girly or not.  They were loaded with rum and pirates drink rum, so it has enough manly element to it to be okay by me.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 22, 2010, 06:55:33 PM
.  I had many banana daiquiris.  I don't care if they're girly or not.  They were loaded with rum and pirates drink rum, so it has enough manly element to it to be okay by me.  :lol
:lol :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 22, 2010, 08:24:56 PM
When your on a cruise it's ok to get girl drink drunk.  I can't remember one name of a drink I had and what was in it. :laugh:  Wait a second......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
hey i qualify for this club in 2 months, sweet.
Then you had better apply for membership now. Their is a lot of Red tape involved, back ground checks, drug testing, physical, etc...
Don't forget the prostate exam.
:lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 27, 2010, 10:07:36 AM
Hey, guys.  Some of you fogies go vote in my Van Halen Survivor. 

Please?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on October 27, 2010, 11:00:56 AM
Hey, guys.  Some of you fogies go vote in my Van Halen Survivor. 

Please?
Done, hef! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2010, 11:05:08 AM
Hey, guys.  Some of you fogies go vote in my Van Halen Survivor. 

Please?
Done, hef! :tup
Also done!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 27, 2010, 11:37:05 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 27, 2010, 11:39:24 AM
It's amazing how fast old farts can vote once they get their Geritol & coffee in them. :-*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 27, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
It's amazing how fast old farts can vote once they get their Geritol & coffee in them. :-*
Or a glass of ice water and a morning stogie. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 27, 2010, 11:54:03 AM
I see all the people at work taking cigarette breaks but I couldn't do that with a stogie.  Unless they're willing to get me hour breaks. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 27, 2010, 11:56:04 AM
I see all the people at work taking cigarette breaks but I couldn't do that with a stogie.  Unless they're willing to get me hour breaks. :laugh:
I meant a ciggarette, but in truth, nothing beats working down a good cuban.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 27, 2010, 02:17:47 PM
I see all the people at work taking cigarette breaks but I couldn't do that with a stogie.  Unless they're willing to get me hour breaks. :laugh:
I meant a ciggarette, but in truth, nothing beats working down a good cuban.

Amen, lonestar, amen.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 27, 2010, 06:58:27 PM
I love cigars, but I've never had the good fortune to smoke a real Cuban.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 27, 2010, 08:13:06 PM
I love cigars, but I've never had the good fortune to smoke a real Cuban.
Smoked a few.  Didn't care for them, honestly.  I'm not much of a cigar guy, though. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 27, 2010, 08:21:11 PM
In Niagra Falls on the Canadian side I had 2 while playing the slots.  I liked them but I've had just as good in the states.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on October 28, 2010, 08:24:10 AM
My brother-in-law scored some Cubans for me last year.  They're good... the most noticeable thing is how smooth they are.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 28, 2010, 09:57:42 AM
I have found a few Canadian distributors online who offer "discrete mailings to the US," but they are expensive as hell.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on October 28, 2010, 10:38:54 AM
I have found a few Canadian distributors online who offer "discrete mailings to the US," but they are expensive as hell.

I've seen that, it's definitely not cheap.   They remove all the labels and pack the cigs in another box (e.g. Dominican-made), then mail the labels to you in a separate envelope.

But this ban on Cuban cigars is getting silly, especially in these times.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 28, 2010, 10:48:15 AM
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_rhPUkLTks2s/TMmpMPP3BBI/AAAAAAAABFg/c4llmh5On9I/clinton.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 29, 2010, 05:35:36 AM
They are over rated and needlessly expensive. American's create the shortage and then suffer the monetary consequences.

Villagers.
Swiss made.
Excellent cigar, the tobacco is not cuban though...not sure where it's from but it's a much better smoke.
I know.
I've been to Cuba.
Same with Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.......there is better CHEAPER coffee.

hype is just that.
hype.

Part of getting older, isn't just about enjoying the finer things it's about getting really REALLY cheap about stuff.....and enjoying finer things.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2010, 05:47:20 AM
Cough..cough..gag.. is there a NO Smoking section in this thread?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 29, 2010, 08:19:39 AM
I wouldn't mind going to Cuba.  Unfortunately, I suspect it's probably been commercialized pretty badly now.  I suspect it's become just another Club Med kind of thing. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 29, 2010, 08:31:21 AM
their airport was certainly interesting.
very "military" they seperate you from whomever you're travelling with during the passport/ident inspection phase in a small room with doors on either side. They also respect you might be american so they stamp a piece of paper.and slip it into your passport, which you can remove after your trip.

for a poor country we were shocked to see them with a body temp/thermal imager during the Swine Flu thing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 29, 2010, 03:26:29 PM
Cough..cough..gag.. is there a NO Smoking section in this thread?

Yeah, got your no smoking section right here...
(https://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6oZnf5uNrzYlQ6OZ7GAujyNwXVtfe0BwGBGo6EN4Qp8dzgt8&t=1&usg=__et_GdpCSUu4fd3saPYPehpqVr5U=)

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
Yikes.
Get out on the f##king porch and stop clogging my lungs.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on October 29, 2010, 06:45:09 PM
Yikes.
Get out on the f##king porch and stop clogging my lungs.
:biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 29, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Yikes.
Get out on the f##king porch and stop clogging my lungs.

Boy TAC, I hate to bust your balls but my wife has told me this. :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2010, 08:49:12 AM
Smart woman.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on October 30, 2010, 08:50:16 AM
Smart woman.
:laugh:

I know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on October 30, 2010, 03:13:20 PM
I'm wondering where  I can take a woman for a date at night in the city after work. Going for dinner sounds good. What do/have people here done?

Also to be able to have some quiet time together during or after - I've found that taking a short walk provide some moments for this although in a city you've got to stop and go to one side for a bit if you want to avoid crowds.

Also, what if you go somewhere for dinner in an area where you're not familiar - do you just generally walk in and ask for a table?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on October 30, 2010, 04:52:21 PM
Dating or otherwise, I usually familiarize myself with a place before I eat there. 

If I'm planning dinner with an eye towards getting to know someone, I might be inclined to pick some place where there'll be a wait for a table.  An extra 30 minutes to sit at the bar or sit outside and people watch is a bonus in that situation. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on October 31, 2010, 01:13:23 AM
Dating or otherwise, I usually familiarize myself with a place before I eat there.  
What opening times etc?

Quote

If I'm planning dinner with an eye towards getting to know someone, I might be inclined to pick some place where there'll be a wait for a table.  An extra 30 minutes to sit at the bar or sit outside and people watch is a bonus in that situation.  

Some good ideas, thanks :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 31, 2010, 05:59:20 AM
Yikes.
Get out on the f##king porch and stop clogging my lungs.
FWIW, I only smoke outside.  So we are rapidly approaching the end of smoking season for me, lol.
Title: Staying connected
Post by: AndyDT on December 02, 2010, 06:02:16 AM
I've been seeing a woman who lives at the other side of the city. We both work during the day and have friends or other commitments some of the weekday evenings. How do people here stay connected with their significant others?
Title: Re: Staying connected
Post by: Tick on December 02, 2010, 08:50:16 AM
I've been seeing a woman who lives at the other side of the city. We both work during the day and have friends or other commitments some of the weekday evenings. How do people here stay connected with their significant others?
The simple answer is you find a way to make time for things that matter to you in life.

:tick2:
Title: Re: Staying connected
Post by: El Barto on December 02, 2010, 08:55:33 AM
I've been seeing a woman who lives at the other side of the city. We both work during the day and have friends or other commitments some of the weekday evenings. How do people here stay connected with their significant others?
The simple answer is you find a way to make time for things that matter to you in life.

:tick2;
Yup.  Not much to add upon there.

A different consideration, though, is that you don't need to spend all of your time together.  Maintain your separate lives and see how much you want to include the other person.  Trying to force the situation is a bad plan.  Make time when you can and don't fret when there's isn't any. 
Title: Re: Staying connected
Post by: wkiml on December 02, 2010, 09:33:32 AM
I've been seeing a woman who lives at the other side of the city. We both work during the day and have friends or other commitments some of the weekday evenings. How do people here stay connected with their significant others?

I make sure the meat locker is always plugged in and that the body isn't in plain site

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 02, 2010, 11:07:40 AM
I know I'm old and out of touch with the modern scene, but when I was dating, my girlfriend and I used something called a telephone, or "phone" for short.  We could talk to each other and hear each other's voices, even all the way at the other side of the city from each other.  It was pretty cool.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2010, 12:18:59 PM
I know I'm old and out of touch with the modern scene, but when I was dating, my girlfriend and I used something called a telephone, or "phone" for short.  We could talk to each other and hear each other's voices, even all the way at the other side of the city from each other.  It was pretty cool.

You are sooooo bad.  BTW, I bet it was a rotary phone.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 02, 2010, 12:20:54 PM
I know I'm old and out of touch with the modern scene, but when I was dating, my girlfriend and I used something called a telephone, or "phone" for short.  We could talk to each other and hear each other's voices, even all the way at the other side of the city from each other.  It was pretty cool.
I hope it still works that way. I would hate to think couples now text to stay in touch. That would be lame.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 02, 2010, 12:52:11 PM
Yeah, all the kids today have these portable texting devices.  They have cameras built in, play music, games, etc., but the really good ones actually let you talk to each other using voice, just like "phones" did back in the day.


And yes, it was a rotary phone.  Touch-tone cost like another $2 a month, which my parents wouldn't pay.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 02, 2010, 01:01:13 PM
I'm right there with y'all.  But lets not pretend that the modern version doesn't have distinct advantages with regards to that whole boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic.   :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 02, 2010, 01:06:24 PM
I'm right there with y'all.  But lets not pretend that the modern version doesn't have distinct advantages with regards to that whole boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic.   :hat
I wouldn't know. I don't own a high tech phone. All mine does is make phone calls. Go figure.
and man am I along ways removed from boyfriend/girlfriend.

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 03, 2010, 04:23:16 AM
I'm right there with y'all.  But lets not pretend that the modern version doesn't have distinct advantages with regards to that whole boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic.   :hat

It's also about expectations isn't it? Why would I be phoning unless it's to check where she's standing at the station etc or an urgent detail? The rest of the time at least now, it seems easier to email.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 03, 2010, 06:33:35 AM
I would imagine just because when you don't have an opportunity to see the other person, it still feels nice to hear their voice once in a while, by making a call just to chat about what's going on or whatever.  I mean, if you really have nothing to talk about, then obviously don't call for nothing, but surely there's something you could find to chat about, right?  You would "chat" about it via email or text, just in a slightly different manner.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 07:08:21 AM
I would imagine just because when you don't have an opportunity to see the other person, it still feels nice to hear their voice once in a while, by making a call just to chat about what's going on or whatever.  I mean, if you really have nothing to talk about, then obviously don't call for nothing, but surely there's something you could find to chat about, right?  You would "chat" about it via email or text, just in a slightly different manner.
I would think if you have little to talk about your probably not that good a match.
When I started dating my wife we couldn't get enough of each other. When she would stay the night with me we would routinely have conversation literally into the wee hours of the morning. That's how into each other we were. I would often be shot for work in the morning.
Of course every relationship is different, but I just feel if you really don't have much to say to each other early in a relationship when its new and fresh, you probably are not a match meant to be.
IMO.
:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 03, 2010, 07:20:07 AM
I would imagine just because when you don't have an opportunity to see the other person, it still feels nice to hear their voice once in a while, by making a call just to chat about what's going on or whatever.  I mean, if you really have nothing to talk about, then obviously don't call for nothing, but surely there's something you could find to chat about, right?  You would "chat" about it via email or text, just in a slightly different manner.
I would think if you have little to talk about your probably not that good a match.
When I started dating my wife we couldn't get enough of each other. When she would stay the night with me we would routinely have conversation literally into the wee hours of the morning. That's how into each other we were. I would often be shot for work in the morning.
Of course every relationship is different, but I just feel if you really don't have much to say to each other early in a relationship when its new and fresh, you probably are not a match meant to be.
IMO.
:tick2:

Tick you beat me too it. If your this new to a relationship and you have already run out of things to talk about, than its just a physical relationship (don't get me wrong, enjoy it for all its worth) but don't look for something more meaningful or deeper from it.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 03, 2010, 07:31:41 AM
Well, yeah.  Without saying it, that was kinda the direction my thoughts were going, I just don't always articulate my thoughts real well.

So in that instance, it's nice to at least be able to hear the other person's voice, when you don't have the opportunity to see them and talk in person.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
Well, yeah.  Without saying it, that was kinda the direction my thoughts were going, I just don't always articulate my thoughts real well.

So in that instance, it's nice to at least be able to hear the other person's voice, when you don't have the opportunity to see them and talk in person.
I wasn't trying to disparage your thoughts, just adding my two cents based on my feelings. You articulate yourself quite well, Coz.

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 07:53:53 AM
I would imagine just because when you don't have an opportunity to see the other person, it still feels nice to hear their voice once in a while, by making a call just to chat about what's going on or whatever.  I mean, if you really have nothing to talk about, then obviously don't call for nothing, but surely there's something you could find to chat about, right?  You would "chat" about it via email or text, just in a slightly different manner.
I would think if you have little to talk about your probably not that good a match.
When I started dating my wife we couldn't get enough of each other. When she would stay the night with me we would routinely have conversation literally into the wee hours of the morning. That's how into each other we were. I would often be shot for work in the morning.
Of course every relationship is different, but I just feel if you really don't have much to say to each other early in a relationship when its new and fresh, you probably are not a match meant to be.
IMO.
:tick2:

Tick you beat me too it. If your this new to a relationship and you have already run out of things to talk about, than its just a physical relationship (don't get me wrong, enjoy it for all its worth) but don't look for something more meaningful or deeper from it.


That's how I feel, but I guess the other possibility would be when two people are both shy and need time to become more comfortable with each other? Then maybe things become more natural?
This is probably possible but hard for me to personally relate to because I am the opposite of shy.

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 03, 2010, 07:57:10 AM
Well, yeah.  Without saying it, that was kinda the direction my thoughts were going, I just don't always articulate my thoughts real well.

So in that instance, it's nice to at least be able to hear the other person's voice, when you don't have the opportunity to see them and talk in person.
I wasn't trying to disparage your thoughts, just adding my two cents based on my feelings. You articulate yourself quite well, Coz.

:tick2:

Oh, I know you weren't, no sweat.  But thanks!  For however well I may be able to articulate myself in a post, there's likely a lot more in my head that I didn't get out quite right.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 03, 2010, 10:11:32 AM
That's kinda what I was getting at with my "phone" remark, although I guess it was more sarcastic than it needed to be.  Seriously though, when we were kids, spending hours on the phone just talking to your friends was the norm.  It was such a cliché that it was always included in every TV show that had teenagers in it.

Sure, today you do it via texting or IM or chat, but it's just words.  The intimacy of actually hearing the other person's voice has been lost.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 03, 2010, 10:17:16 AM
That's kinda what I was getting at with my "phone" remark, although I guess it was more sarcastic than it needed to be.  Seriously though, when we were kids, spending hours on the phone just talking to your friends was the norm.  It was such a cliché that it was always included in every TV show that had teenagers in it.

Sure, today you do it via texting or IM or chat, but it's just words.  The intimacy of actually hearing the other person's voice has been lost.

Kind of like talking with friends via a internet forum :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 10:20:54 AM
That's kinda what I was getting at with my "phone" remark, although I guess it was more sarcastic than it needed to be.  Seriously though, when we were kids, spending hours on the phone just talking to your friends was the norm.  It was such a cliché that it was always included in every TV show that had teenagers in it.

Sure, today you do it via texting or IM or chat, but it's just words.  The intimacy of actually hearing the other person's voice has been lost.
I hear ya!

I mean I read what you said. ;)

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 03, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
Don't get me wrong.  It's perfectly fine to make and carry on social connections online.  I consider a lot of you guys friends, but let's be honest; you're online friends, and that's just not at the same level as hanging out in the backyard or in front of the TV and getting wasted with the guys you've known since school days.

When I hear about people who meet online and fall in love and get married, I'm always amazed.  I don't think it's impossible or anything.  I just think it's amazing that they spent so much time together online that they really felt a closeness, like a real, physical closeness.  Then I remember that today, online=real for a lot of people.  I guess if you grew up with it, it's as real as anything else.

That's why we "Old As Mold" fogies can talk about it like it's alien technology or something.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
Don't get me wrong.  It's perfectly fine to make and carry on social connections online.  I consider a lot of you guys friends, but let's be honest; you're online friends, and that's just not at the same level as hanging out in the backyard or in front of the TV and getting wasted with the guys you've known since school days.

When I hear about people who meet online and fall in love and get married, I'm always amazed.  I don't think it's impossible or anything.  I just think it's amazing that they spent so much time together online that they really felt a closeness, like a real, physical closeness.  Then I remember that today, online=real for a lot of people.  I guess if you grew up with it, it's as real as anything else.

That's why we "Old As Mold" fogies can talk about it like it's alien technology or something.
I have met alot of online friends over the past 5 years since I really started using the internet.
There are a handful of them that have I have become close personal friends with, and I see 4 or 5 times a year. A couple of friends I have made I don't even interact with online anymore. I only see them in person and enjoy my time with them. I have even taken a vacation with one family after our wives became so close they talk more then we do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 03, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
Orbert you nailed it, when we were younger we had no other way of communication, it was either face to face or on the phone. With all the technology today, the younger generations have just become accomidated with IM/Texting and the whole sort. I am in no way knocking whats out there, I have gotten back in touch with alot of friends/classmates via modern technology that I would never have heard from again if not for it.

But that's what makes us old fogeys special we can appreciate both
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 12:01:51 PM
This generation has no clue. Think about how it was when we were younger.

We remember sleeping on sidewalks in subzero weather (at least I do)for concert tickets! That's old school and something this generation can't relate to. On top of that, you went nuts trying to find out when your favorite artist was going on tour and where they would be playing.

We remember driving around to find a phone booth so we could make a phone call.

We remember hearing about, "the internet, the information superhighway" for the first time and thinking what the hell is that and what good will it do?

We remember walking into a record store and seeing a new record from a band you love and having no clue it had even been released. Now people are counting day the days months before a artist makes a release.

We remember when TV went to cable and you went fro 13 to 36 channels!!! and now of them had snow on them when you watched.

So different to watch my daughter at age 10 think nothing of the way things are now.
It makes its easier to relate when my mom tells me of the days when they just listened to the radio because they had no TV.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2010, 12:12:52 PM
Sleeping in my car to get a # on my hand to get in line to buy tickets at Teletron.  Tick, your jogging the old memory.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 03, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Of course all of this is true, but I guaran-goddam-ty you that your parents thought the exact same thing.  "When we were Tick's age, we couldn't talk all day on the telephone.  We actually had to get together to visit!"  Their parents before them did the same thing.  While we reflect back and think that our ways were better, we wouldn't consider our parent's era to be.  "Those people didn't even have cassette tapes!" I have fond memories of camping out behind TM to score tickets for the Somewhere In Time Tour.  The first time I heard Kill 'Em All was waiting in line for [God knows what] tickets.  Yet, I certainly would have liked to have some of the tech kids today take for granted. 

All things are relative. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 12:56:49 PM
Of course all of this is true, but I guaran-goddam-ty you that your parents thought the exact same thing.  "When we were Tick's age, we couldn't talk all day on the telephone.  We actually had to get together to visit!"  Their parents before them did the same thing.  While we reflect back and think that our ways were better, we wouldn't consider our parent's era to be.  "Those people didn't even have cassette tapes!" I have fond memories of camping out behind TM to score tickets for the Somewhere In Time Tour.  The first time I heard Kill 'Em All was waiting in line for [God knows what] tickets.  Yet, I certainly would have liked to have some of the tech kids today take for granted. 

All things are relative. 
I said the thing about what my parents must have felt about my conveniences as they looked back

I am not saying it was better when I was a kid. I'm just saying the kids on this board have no clue how pampered an existence they have in so many ways. Its scary to think what there kids may experience.

I know one thing that was great when I was a kid. Entire neighborhoods would gather after school and play football or baseball on the school playgrounds or wherever. I never witness this kind of stuff anymore. Technology has made playing pick up games of various sports a rare occurrence, it would appear.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 03, 2010, 01:03:09 PM
One of the best football games I remember from my childhood was in a driving rainstorm.  We had a full 1 acre lot with perfect grass and trees only where the endzone would be.  On a good day we'd get 6 on 6.  Tackle, too.  I can't imagine too many kids playing tackle football in a thunderstorm nowadays. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
One of the best football games I remember from my childhood was in a driving rainstorm.  We had a full 1 acre lot with perfect grass and trees only where the endzone would be.  On a good day we'd get 6 on 6.  Tackle, too.  I can't imagine too many kids playing tackle football in a thunderstorm nowadays. 
Man, I used to play tackle football when I was like 15 against a rival neighborhood. We hated each other and these games were brutal. We were almost playing gang football because we were out to hurt each other.
I remember one kid breaking his leg in one game. In another a kid dislocated his shoulder. Blood was common place. I look back at it all now and realize how insane it was at times. The final score wasn't as important is how many of there players you injured.
Of course I also played games amongst friends when we weren't trying to hurt each other.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on December 03, 2010, 01:33:16 PM
Of course all of this is true, but I guaran-goddam-ty you that your parents thought the exact same thing.  "When we were Tick's age, we couldn't talk all day on the telephone.  We actually had to get together to visit!"  Their parents before them did the same thing.  While we reflect back and think that our ways were better, we wouldn't consider our parent's era to be.  "Those people didn't even have cassette tapes!" I have fond memories of camping out behind TM to score tickets for the Somewhere In Time Tour.  The first time I heard Kill 'Em All was waiting in line for [God knows what] tickets.  Yet, I certainly would have liked to have some of the tech kids today take for granted. 

All things are relative. 
I said the thing about what my parents must have felt about my conveniences as they looked back

I am not saying it was better when I was a kid. I'm just saying the kids on this board have no clue how pampered an existence they have in so many ways. Its scary to think what there kids may experience.

I know one thing that was great when I was a kid. Entire neighborhoods would gather after school and play football or baseball on the school playgrounds or wherever. I never witness this kind of stuff anymore. Technology has made playing pick up games of various sports a rare occurrence, it would appear.

Absolutely.  This is something my kids never do.  I have the fondest memories of coming home from school, tossing my books on the floor(homework undone), and rushing out to play baseball, football, hockey and basketball with all the neighborhood kids.  We even ran a kind of "capture the flag" army game.  It was wonderful.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 03, 2010, 01:35:58 PM
One of the best football games I remember from my childhood was in a driving rainstorm.  We had a full 1 acre lot with perfect grass and trees only where the endzone would be.  On a good day we'd get 6 on 6.  Tackle, too.  I can't imagine too many kids playing tackle football in a thunderstorm nowadays.  
Man, I used to play tackle football when I was like 15 against a rival neighborhood. We hated each other and these games were brutal. We were almost playing gang football because we were out to hurt each other.
I remember one kid breaking his leg in one game. In another a kid dislocated his shoulder. Blood was common place. I look back at it all now and realize how insane it was at times. The final score wasn't as important is how many of there players you injured.
Of course I also played games amongst friends when we weren't trying to hurt each other.


Ahh the memories.....we did the same , games amongst friends were usually played with none or very little equipment, games against neighboring rivals we would all suit up in whatever rag tag equipment we could get together. I can remember one kid who used to tape railroad spikes to the inside of his formarm , than he would line up over an offensive lineman as just as they came off the line he would slap their helmet with the inside of his formarm, thus knocking them to the ground and leaving a severe ringing in their ears .

Also I played alot of goalie in street hockey, since my skating skills were terrible, and finding an old sofa/couch cushion in someones garbage and making goalie pads out of them...taping them to my shins, so I wouldnt come home black and blue.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 03, 2010, 01:40:15 PM
One of the best football games I remember from my childhood was in a driving rainstorm.  We had a full 1 acre lot with perfect grass and trees only where the endzone would be.  On a good day we'd get 6 on 6.  Tackle, too.  I can't imagine too many kids playing tackle football in a thunderstorm nowadays.  
Man, I used to play tackle football when I was like 15 against a rival neighborhood. We hated each other and these games were brutal. We were almost playing gang football because we were out to hurt each other.
I remember one kid breaking his leg in one game. In another a kid dislocated his shoulder. Blood was common place. I look back at it all now and realize how insane it was at times. The final score wasn't as important is how many of there players you injured.
Of course I also played games amongst friends when we weren't trying to hurt each other.


Ahh the memories.....we did the same , games amongst friends were usually played with none or very little equipment, games against neighboring rivals we would all suit up in whatever rag tag equipment we could get together. I can remember one kid who used to tape railroad spikes to the inside of his formarm , than he would line up over an offensive lineman as just as they came off the line he would slap their helmet with the inside of his formarm, thus knocking them to the ground and leaving a severe ringing in their ears .

Also I played alot of goalie in street hockey, since my skating skills were terrible, and finding an old sofa/couch cushion in someones garbage and making goalie pads out of them...taping them to my shins, so I wouldnt come home black and blue.

Its funny you mention street hockey. I loved playing but was limited in my passing and puck handling skills so I absolutely embraced the role of being a goon! I loved being as enforcer and just laying brutal hits on people to knock them on there ass! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2010, 03:53:44 PM
Hell, I remember 14 kids with our shovels moving the snow on tennis courts for 2 hours just so we could play street hockey.  Neighborhood vs. neighborhood.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 04, 2010, 02:06:47 AM
So it's important to be able to enjoy or accept solitude and manage the time spent with the other person in a relatinoship but do you have any advice about how often to see them? And how often is healthy?

You can't control another person, you should be able to spend time alone, have your own things to do but it's balancing staying connected with not using them to avoid being lonely or "feel single". What's the key ingredient - patience? Asking constantly for feedback in the early stages could make the other person panic.

I understood that a relationship should ideally add to your life rather than be it. But at the same time don't you have to keep at bay the urge to use it to avoid being alone?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 04, 2010, 10:05:04 AM
I know one thing that was great when I was a kid. Entire neighborhoods would gather after school and play football or baseball on the school playgrounds or wherever. I never witness this kind of stuff anymore. Technology has made playing pick up games of various sports a rare occurrence, it would appear.

I had the same conversation with my boss's wife last night.  You just don't see kids outside playing anymore.  Not at baseball fields, basketball courts, playgrounds, not even front yards.  Kids should be arguing over the arbitrary ground rules for whatever game you are playing. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2010, 10:15:52 AM
So it's important to be able to enjoy or accept solitude and manage the time spent with the other person in a relatinoship but do you have any advice about how often to see them? And how often is healthy?

You can't control another person, you should be able to spend time alone, have your own things to do but it's balancing staying connected with not using them to avoid being lonely or "feel single". What's the key ingredient - patience? Asking constantly for feedback in the early stages could make the other person panic.

I understood that a relationship should ideally add to your life rather than be it. But at the same time don't you have to keep at bay the urge to use it to avoid being alone?

Because every person is different, every relationship is different because it's formed of two people.  Therefore there is no one answer that will be right for all situations.  That said, there are plenty of "general rules" which apply.

The answer to "How often is healthy?" is "Whatever works for the two of you."  You're not going to get an answer like "No more than once per week" or "At least twice a day" or anything concrete like that, and if you do, it will be from people merely saying what worked or didn't for them in the past.  It may or may not apply to your relationship at all.

Most people enter relationship with some uncertainty, even nervousness.  It's a new situation, and with any new situation, there are unknowns.  She may therefore look for a lot of reassurance.  Remind her that you like spending time with her; find things to compliment her on and do it.  Make it a pleasant experience for her, and you'll find that she enjoys your company as well, and pretty soon you're seeing each other more.  But because you're an unknown and she may be nervous, you don't want to smother her by constantly talking about these things, as it can make you come across as nervous and uncertain and having nothing else to talk about, and that can be a turn-off.

Maybe she's Some girls are fine with whatever, because she already likes you.  She doesn't want to hear you talking about her all the time; she wants to know you.

There is no one single answer that always works for everyone, every time.  You just have to learn to "feel" when you're doing it right, when you're doing enough, and when you're going too far.  That's why your first few relationships almost never work.  You don't know what you're doing.  But the only way to learn is by doing.  Getting advice can only help in the learning process; it cannot give you the experience to actually know and recognize the signs.

And that's why it's easy to get discouraged.  If you try something and fail the first several times, it's easy to just say "Okay I suck at this, forget it."  But this isn't a sport.  This is someting humans are literally born to do.  Find a mate and procreate.  First things first, of course, but every person gets better at it, and everybody eventually finds someone.

So yes, the key ingredient is patience.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 04, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
If she's somebody who's company you really enjoy, then find ways to hang out with her and to stay in touch.  With some time you'll figure out how much is too much, but probably want much more. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: bout to crash on December 04, 2010, 11:20:40 AM
I can relate to a lot of the stuff posted here. I'm only 25, but I feel like I'm in between two generations, one like you guys and then the younger kids who have never known life without the internet, etc. I hate technology sometimes and I resent that people don't seem to connect as deeply anymore because they barely see each other. A lot of times I feel like an older person at heart. And I work with old people. So I may have to spend some time in this club :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 04, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Wkiml..yes yes yes!
Goalie pads made out of sofa cushions! :metal
 I was about to post the same thing! We had those.

Yes, everything is relative. One of my favorite books on the Civil War is called Four Brothers In Blue. It was written around 1875, and it starts off with a long passage about how easy kids have it "today". So even back then, that sentiment was common.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 04, 2010, 03:21:14 PM
I can relate to a lot of the stuff posted here. I'm only 25, but I feel like I'm in between two generations, one like you guys and then the younger kids who have never known life without the internet, etc. I hate technology sometimes and I resent that people don't seem to connect as deeply anymore because they barely see each other. A lot of times I feel like an older person at heart. And I work with old people. So I may have to spend some time in this club :)
Jackie, DTF's resident middle child. :laugh:


And to Orbert, excellent points.  Even when a relationship is twenty years old, it is still a living and growing thing.  It is up to the partners in the relationship to accept that and themselves develop through the changes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 04, 2010, 03:21:25 PM
So it's important to be able to enjoy or accept solitude and manage the time spent with the other person in a relatinoship but do you have any advice about how often to see them? And how often is healthy?

You can't control another person, you should be able to spend time alone, have your own things to do but it's balancing staying connected with not using them to avoid being lonely or "feel single". What's the key ingredient - patience? Asking constantly for feedback in the early stages could make the other person panic.

I understood that a relationship should ideally add to your life rather than be it. But at the same time don't you have to keep at bay the urge to use it to avoid being alone?

Because every person is different, every relationship is different because it's formed of two people.  Therefore there is no one answer that will be right for all situations.  That said, there are plenty of "general rules" which apply.

The answer to "How often is healthy?" is "Whatever works for the two of you."  You're not going to get an answer like "No more than once per week" or "At least twice a day" or anything concrete like that, and if you do, it will be from people merely saying what worked or didn't for them in the past.  It may or may not apply to your relationship at all.

Most people enter relationship with some uncertainty, even nervousness.  It's a new situation, and with any new situation, there are unknowns.  She may therefore look for a lot of reassurance.  Remind her that you like spending time with her; find things to compliment her on and do it.  Make it a pleasant experience for her, and you'll find that she enjoys your company as well, and pretty soon you're seeing each other more.  But because you're an unknown and she may be nervous, you don't want to smother her by constantly talking about these things, as it can make you come across as nervous and uncertain and having nothing else to talk about, and that can be a turn-off.
I've been coached to ask for feedback but straight away the feedback I got to trying to get feedback seemed that this would be a turn-off so asking if done has to be done very subtly or if critical maybe.
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Maybe she's Some girls are fine with whatever, because she already likes you.  She doesn't want to hear you talking about her all the time; she wants to know you.
The occasional thing maybe but I get the impression women want to be "heard" in as full a sense as possible.
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There is no one single answer that always works for everyone, every time.  You just have to learn to "feel" when you're doing it right, when you're doing enough, and when you're going too far.  That's why your first few relationships almost never work.  You don't know what you're doing.  But the only way to learn is by doing.  Getting advice can only help in the learning process; it cannot give you the experience to actually know and recognize the signs.
Ultimately I agree, but friendships have always been used for passing on advice and advice means every generation doesn't have to learn everything from trial and error which would surely be impossible.

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And that's why it's easy to get discouraged.  If you try something and fail the first several times, it's easy to just say "Okay I suck at this, forget it."  But this isn't a sport.  This is someting humans are literally born to do.  Find a mate and procreate.  First things first, of course, but every person gets better at it, and everybody eventually finds someone.

So yes, the key ingredient is patience.
Thansk for the advice.

About telephoning - we've been emailing regularly. So phoning seems right only for practical necessity e.g. finding eachother, confirming at last minute etc. So I'm trying to "feel" what's right and at the moment it doesn't seem right to call. If I do, I can't help but feel I'd come across needy or controlling. I feel the best thing is to be relaxed, ease up but at the same time not let things slip away.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: bout to crash on December 04, 2010, 05:47:19 PM
Jackie, DTF's resident middle child. :laugh:

:D

Even when a relationship is twenty years old, it is still a living and growing thing.  It is up to the partners in the relationship to accept that and themselves develop through the changes.
:tup

And if they're not willing to, it probably won't last.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 04, 2010, 06:30:48 PM

Even when a relationship is twenty years old, it is still a living and growing thing.  It is up to the partners in the relationship to accept that and themselves develop through the changes.
:tup

And if they're not willing to, it probably won't last.

Learned that one a little too late. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 04, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
Love is compromise.  I kill the mice that get in the house.  She cleans my underware.  Now that's love. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
About telephoning - we've been emailing regularly. So phoning seems right only for practical necessity e.g. finding eachother, confirming at last minute etc. So I'm trying to "feel" what's right and at the moment it doesn't seem right to call. If I do, I can't help but feel I'd come across needy or controlling. I feel the best thing is to be relaxed, ease up but at the same time not let things slip away.

Okay okay, I was being a smartass with the telephone remark.  I realize that texting and emailing are perfectly valid forms of communication.  They are also more convenient for a lot of people, and if you're used to it, I'm sure you don't feel like you're missing out on something.  But I really do believe that people today who use it more than actual voice communication are missing out on something that my generation had.  I've been in long-distance relationships a few times, and believe me, there's still nothing like actually talking to the other person, hearing their voice and speaking to them, in real time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 04, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
Love is compromise.  I kill the mice that get in the house.  She cleans my underware.  Now that's love. :laugh:

So...you're saying by not letting mice in the house and doing my own laundry, I'm doing it wrong?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2010, 10:30:01 PM
Killing mice is fun, and when you kill invaders in your house, you get that great sense of accomplishment.  You're the man, and for the privilege of being your woman, she cleans everything including your underwear.


Compare that to the thrill of doing your own laundry, including your underwear.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 05, 2010, 05:33:54 AM
Love is compromise.  I kill the mice that get in the house.  She cleans my underware.  Now that's love. :laugh:

So...you're saying by not letting mice in the house and doing my own laundry, I'm doing it wrong?

 :lol  She screams when a mouse finds a way into our house so I become, a mouse killer and what girl in her right mind wants to take care of skid marks.  That's love. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 05, 2010, 05:43:23 AM
If she's somebody who's company you really enjoy, then find ways to hang out with her and to stay in touch.  With some time you'll figure out how much is too much, but probably want much more. 
Thanks again.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 09, 2010, 02:16:23 AM
When is it appropriate to sleep with a woman in a relationship, outside of "one night stands"?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Ħ on December 09, 2010, 02:39:45 AM
When is it appropriate to sleep with a woman in a relationship, outside of "one night stands"?
Culturally, you always hear about the third date.

For health reasons, some people wait a couple months and then check with a sex advisor (not sure what they are called) to make sure it's the healthy thing to do.

For moral/religious reasons, a lot of people wait til marriage.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 09, 2010, 04:02:53 AM
Interesting that you say moral reasons - what do you think they are?

What would a sex advisor say?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Ħ on December 09, 2010, 04:14:31 AM
From the posts I've seen from you, you seem like a conservative, traditional guy, so maybe you would be more comfortable waiting.  There's no serious harm in waiting, so if you are unsure if premarital sex is moral or not, it's safe to wait.

I have never been in a physical relationship, so I'm basically basing my input on other people's experience.  I don't think I have the right to comment on specifics.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 09, 2010, 06:48:35 AM
If she aint putting out on the first night shes going to the curb....Always wanted to say that....

But really its when your both comfortable, there us no real schedule to follow.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 09, 2010, 06:57:42 AM
There's the quandary of trying to get balance between not wanting to disrespect the woman and myself and not appear asexual and uninterested.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Ħ on December 09, 2010, 07:05:13 AM
Then communication is key.  If you want to wait until marriage, you're going to have to have that conversation so she knows you aren't just uninterested.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 09, 2010, 08:08:17 AM
Once again, every situation is different, and yet there are commonalities.

My basic philosophy is this: Humans are animals, and despite the development of our wonder brains and all the rules and laws and civilizations we've built that we like to think put us above the lesser creatures, we're still slaves to our biology.  When you're kissing her, the smell of her breath will be nice.  This will trigger a pheremonal response in you; in other words, you'll get turned on.  You will also emit pheremones which she, if she's ready, will also respond to.  Things escalate from there.  That's why in movies and on TV, the cliché is always physical proxmimity and contact, making out, then clothes start coming off.  Unless you're both already horny as hell, you have to work up to it.  This tends not to happen with couples who have not been intimate before.

The first couple of times you make out, you may enjoy it just fine but feel no twitching between your legs.  Don't worry about it; let it happen naturally.  Natural is always best; rushed and doing it because you think you should is not going to result in success.  If you're compatible, at some point Mother Nature will take over and you'll start feeling more than just "fine" and start feeling more than just physical attraction.  You'll harden up and feel the urge to stick it in her.  Crude, yes, but that's exactly what is happening at that point; your animal instincts have taken over.  The best thing you can do is guide them using your brain, which is slowly losing the battle for control of your actions, mostly because it's never had to contend with another part of your body for dominance before, and it isn't used to the competition.

If you're compatible, the same thing is happening to her.  She too has chemicals rushing through her body, telling her to use it, to receive you.  It's all biology.  But she's having a similar struggle.  Her brain is full of all the stuff she's accumulated over the years, telling her it's wrong, questioning whether you're the one, already thinking about tomorrow and if she'll feel guilty or fulfilled or a real woman or just a whore.  Your goal is to overcome all this, but actions speak much louder than words.  If you try to reassure her, you'll just sound like a guy feeding her lines to get her clothes off, because that's exactly what you are at that point.  Instead, do it physically.  Slow down.  Hold her a lot, kiss her a lot but don't smother her and don't try to turn her on.  Against everything you're feeling, it must happen on her schedule, not yours.  She must be comfortable.  If you do anything she's not ready for and willing to do, not only will the sex be bad, but you're a rapist and a bad guy, which is much worse.  There will be other women, but not in prison.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Ħ on December 09, 2010, 08:10:05 AM
God Orbert, you're making me lonely
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 09, 2010, 08:11:52 AM
Sorry dude, I'm married.  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 09, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
You've been seeing the girl for a few weeks.  Culturally, you're in the clear.  As for morality, obviously I think that's all a lot of bullshit.  So at this point it's just a matter of whether or not you two are compatible, and if so, then as Orbert [far too graphically] described, nature will take it's course. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 09, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
 :hat


I need a cigarette after reading Orbert's poct
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: bout to crash on December 09, 2010, 08:43:41 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 09, 2010, 08:52:30 AM
orbert....play on playa....play on.


skid marks...in this thread...really?...can people just not wipe their ass..is it THAT difficult?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: contest_sanity on December 09, 2010, 10:41:09 AM
your animal instincts have taken over.  The best thing you can do is guide them using your brain, which is slowly losing the battle for control of your actions, mostly because it's never had to contend with another part of your body for dominance before, and it isn't used to the competition.
This is the difficult part.  Or, as my dad memorably put it to me when I was a teenager, "a hard penis knows no conscience."  He was an English major.

EDIT: by the way, I turned 30 this past August, so I guess I'm in the club.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 09, 2010, 11:06:29 AM
orbert....play on playa....play on.


skid marks...in this thread...really?...can people just not wipe their ass..is it THAT difficult?

Sometimes a man does a clenched cheek walk and it's not pretty.  Don't pretend it doesn't happen.  Marriage isn't all flowers and butterflies. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 10, 2010, 04:47:28 AM
You've been seeing the girl for a few weeks.  Culturally, you're in the clear.  As for morality, obviously I think that's all a lot of bullshit.  So at this point it's just a matter of whether or not you two are compatible, and if so, then as Orbert [far too graphically] described, nature will take it's course. 
I don't agree that morality isn't involved, it's always involved in my view. What I don't udnerstand is in a Christian relationsjhip where you're not supposed to do anything that arouses the other, what on earth are you supposed to do as an adult couple? I can understand wanting to save the full act for a committed relationship but does that have to be marriage and can't you do anything else?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 10, 2010, 09:17:28 AM
You've been seeing the girl for a few weeks.  Culturally, you're in the clear.  As for morality, obviously I think that's all a lot of bullshit.  So at this point it's just a matter of whether or not you two are compatible, and if so, then as Orbert [far too graphically] described, nature will take it's course. 
I don't agree that morality isn't involved, it's always involved in my view. What I don't udnerstand is in a Christian relationsjhip where you're not supposed to do anything that arouses the other, what on earth are you supposed to do as an adult couple? I can understand wanting to save the full act for a committed relationship but does that have to be marriage and can't you do anything else?
Holy shit!  You're actually asking me about that are you?   :lol

To be clear, I'm a big fan of ethics.  I just think that basing personal ethics on relative social norms, i.e. morality, is a damn fool thing to do.  If a person feels the need to wait until he/she is in a committed relationship, bully for them.  That seems like a perfectly reasonable stance.  There's a big difference between a committed relationship and the permanence of marriage, though.  I'm pretty strongly of the opinion that waiting for marriage is a very bad thing to do.  Chemistry is damned important, and that includes sexual chemistry.  Nobody in their right mind would buy a TV without looking at a few different models, yet for some reason people seem to think that sex is something where you should just hope for the best.  I say that sexual chemistry is far more important than picture quality and contrast levels.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 10, 2010, 11:10:42 AM
Andy, once again you are overthinking things.  You've heard that before.

True, there are important yet sometimes subtle differences between what is legal, what is ethical, and what is moral, all based on your personal value system.  Somewhere in with "ethical" and "moral" you may have the religious or spiritual aspect, or not.  Et cetera.  So yeah, it's complicated.

You can drive yourself insane trying to balance all the factors, or just go with what seems right, what feels right according to your definition of "right."  It's good that you ask advice, but ultimately it has to come down to you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 10, 2010, 11:44:20 AM
I have agree with my two fellow fogies above.  You are putting too many rules and regulations on this, and not allowing nature take its course.  Just enjoy her company, and let her enjoy yours, and see what happens.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 10, 2010, 11:54:29 AM
I have a feeling Andy is missing out on life by over analyzing every little minutiae.  You can't live life thinking if the loops on your sneakers are symmetrical.  Walk without looking down Andy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 10, 2010, 11:51:53 PM
I have a feeling Andy is missing out on life by over analyzing every little minutiae.  You can't live life thinking if the loops on your sneakers are symmetrical.  Walk without looking down Andy.

To an extent maybe but I think back to job interviews where i thought I could just learn in the process. But I just wasn't learning from them, at least the key ingredient, until I actively solicited feedback. Then things suddenly improved, dramatically, but it took over 12 before I got the first job. I think it's important to gather as much information before blundering on in complex areas.

Andy, once again you are overthinking things.  You've heard that before.

True, there are important yet sometimes subtle differences between what is legal, what is ethical, and what is moral, all based on your personal value system.  Somewhere in with "ethical" and "moral" you may have the religious or spiritual aspect, or not.  Et cetera.  So yeah, it's complicated.

You can drive yourself insane trying to balance all the factors, or just go with what seems right, what feels right according to your definition of "right."  It's good that you ask advice, but ultimately it has to come down to you.
Andy, once again you are overthinking things.  You've heard that before.

True, there are important yet sometimes subtle differences between what is legal, what is ethical, and what is moral, all based on your personal value system.  Somewhere in with "ethical" and "moral" you may have the religious or spiritual aspect, or not.  Et cetera.  So yeah, it's complicated.

You can drive yourself insane trying to balance all the factors, or just go with what seems right, what feels right according to your definition of "right."  It's good that you ask advice, but ultimately it has to come down to you.
Thanks

You've been seeing the girl for a few weeks.  Culturally, you're in the clear.  As for morality, obviously I think that's all a lot of bullshit.  So at this point it's just a matter of whether or not you two are compatible, and if so, then as Orbert [far too graphically] described, nature will take it's course.  
I don't agree that morality isn't involved, it's always involved in my view. What I don't udnerstand is in a Christian relationsjhip where you're not supposed to do anything that arouses the other, what on earth are you supposed to do as an adult couple? I can understand wanting to save the full act for a committed relationship but does that have to be marriage and can't you do anything else?
Holy shit!  You're actually asking me about that are you?   :lol

To be clear, I'm a big fan of ethics.  I just think that basing personal ethics on relative social norms, i.e. morality, is a damn fool thing to do.  If a person feels the need to wait until he/she is in a committed relationship, bully for them.  That seems like a perfectly reasonable stance.  There's a big difference between a committed relationship and the permanence of marriage, though.  I'm pretty strongly of the opinion that waiting for marriage is a very bad thing to do.  Chemistry is damned important, and that includes sexual chemistry.  Nobody in their right mind would buy a TV without looking at a few different models, yet for some reason people seem to think that sex is something where you should just hope for the best.  I say that sexual chemistry is far more important than picture quality and contrast levels.
I've heard though that friendship is ultimately the most important thing in a long term relationship although the basis for finding a mate is the sexual aspect. Also, you said chemistry  not the actual sex act, assuming both are physically capable then the act could improve but if the chemistry isn't there then ideally you wouldn't get married?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: CountVoorhees on December 11, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
GO COOL OLDER PEOPLE! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on December 11, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
I'd agree that friendship is the most important thing, but that doesn't diminish the importance of many other facets.  Best friends can result in a really shitty marriage if other things aren't working out, and sex is certainly a big one.  Furthermore, sexual chemistry isn't something learned.  Some things are ingrained into the individual which make up parts of that chemistry.  Now, two people might conceivably share a keen disinterest in sex, in which case everything is dandy, but what if only one person has no interest?  I'd call that a fucking disaster. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2010, 12:34:04 PM
 :facepalm:

WTF's going on with this thread? What is this, The Love Connection? When did Dr Ruth join DTF?


Love is compromise.    She cleans my underware. 

I don't even know where to go with this... :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 11, 2010, 12:53:05 PM
Double post!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 11, 2010, 12:53:40 PM
:facepalm:

WTF's going on with this thread? What is this, The Love Connection? When did Dr Ruth join DTF?

Andy was lookin' for some advice, and was wise enough to ask his elders.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2010, 01:09:31 PM

Andy was lookin' for some advice, and was wise enough to ask his elders.

Yeah, well OK, he came to the right place. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 11, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
:facepalm:

WTF's going on with this thread? What is this, The Love Connection? When did Dr Ruth join DTF?




We'll be back in Two and Two
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 11, 2010, 02:45:01 PM
:facepalm:

WTF's going on with this thread? What is this, The Love Connection? When did Dr Ruth join DTF?


Love is compromise.    She cleans my underware.  

I don't even know where to go with this... :lol

You know it's true! :lol

The Love Boat........... it's exciting and new........

Edit: The worst part is I'm giving love advice and I can't even spell underwear correctly. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 11, 2010, 03:02:33 PM
Just to man-up the thread a little:

(https://imgur.com/D723O.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 11, 2010, 03:10:39 PM
Just to man-up the thread a little:

(https://imgur.com/D723O.gif)
Nice save.


(notice, if you position it just right, you can get four jigglies for the price of two)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 11, 2010, 09:04:52 PM
Bravo!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 13, 2010, 02:45:32 AM
Just to man-up the thread a little:

(https://imgur.com/D723O.gif)
Boobs are good.

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 13, 2010, 06:46:55 AM
I cut myself shaving................................the hair off my shoulders.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 13, 2010, 07:17:35 AM
I cut myself shaving................................the hair off my shoulders.

With the change of seasons and all ...and it turning to winter here I prefer to let my "man sweater" grow this time of year...one less layer of clothes to wear
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 13, 2010, 07:36:21 AM
I manscape less....to help the wife keep her face warm.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 13, 2010, 08:29:56 AM
Take me as I am.  No manscaping for me. Well except for the ears and the nose.  Damn you old age!!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 13, 2010, 08:58:47 AM
one of my old bosses used to "wax" her husbands ears...it lasted WAY longer than the week or two you get from trimming.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 13, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
Well....that was quick.

Coz, we need you again!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Neon on December 13, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
I hate to say it, but in a week's time I'll be applying for my official "Old As Mold" card.

Fuck. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 13, 2010, 05:13:23 PM
I hate to say it, but in a week's time I'll be applying for my official "Old As Mold" card.

Fuck. 
Yay, a female fogie. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 13, 2010, 05:46:48 PM
Well....that was quick.

Coz, we need you again!

What?!  You can't post bouncing boobs from work?! :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 14, 2010, 06:39:22 AM
Well....that was quick.

Coz, we need you again!

Christ almighty, I was thinking the same thing.  You guys care to expound upon what color your loofahs are?

First:

(https://lh3.ggpht.com/_rhPUkLTks2s/TQdzIJyrTGI/AAAAAAAABJ8/pWd3-JzwG8I/champagnesupernovap1.gif)


Secondly (NSFW):

Katherine Heigl (https://lh5.ggpht.com/_rhPUkLTks2s/TQdzHiO7_nI/AAAAAAAABKg/CzkZ_aCtkkQ/angrybrajiggle.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 14, 2010, 06:48:15 AM
I hate to say it, but in a week's time I'll be applying for my official "Old As Mold" card.

Fuck. 
Yay, a female fogie. :tup

You mean Cougar  :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 14, 2010, 08:06:58 AM
Coz, I owe you for that gif.  Oh man do I owe you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 14, 2010, 10:14:49 AM
Hahaha, awesome.  Which one, though?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 14, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
Hahaha, awesome.  Which one, though?

Katherine Heigl of course!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 14, 2010, 11:43:00 AM
Then these will be as much to your enjoyment, but certainly no more SFW than the last one.  That said, they should still be acceptable to post links to, since they'd likely be okay to show on TV.

Link (https://picasaweb.google.com/guitarcozmo34/Heigl?authkey=Gv1sRgCM2EiZj69tGOBA&feat=directlink)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 14, 2010, 11:46:54 AM
I hate to say it, but in a week's time I'll be applying for my official "Old As Mold" card.

Fuck. 
Yay, a female fogie. :tup

You mean Cougar  :P
To most of the younglings on this forum, yes, but to us forty and ups, were still robbing the cradle. :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 14, 2010, 12:04:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnT0Jjrx15k
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 14, 2010, 12:06:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnT0Jjrx15k
Touche.

BTW, love the title of that first gif, champagne supernova.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 14, 2010, 12:13:24 PM
I should've renamed it champagne facial.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 14, 2010, 12:16:14 PM
I should've renamed it champagne facial.
That reminds me of a very old school Hustler cartoon.  It's a shot of a local carnival, with all the booths in line, and at the end is Clinton with his Johnson in his hand and a sign in front of him that says "Face Painting."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 14, 2010, 12:17:52 PM
:rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: zerogravityfat on December 14, 2010, 12:33:40 PM
make sure you all warm a place up for me, my bones are achy from getting up from my chair and i need a nap in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2010, 01:06:03 PM
reporting for duty in the Old as Mold club. 43 in feb and youth is a distant memory. I feel very awkward singing Youth Gone Wild nowadays.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 14, 2010, 01:10:49 PM
It's cold as fuck in Virginia and its only a matter of time before the near crippling arthitis in my shoulder rears its ugly head.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2010, 01:22:28 PM
reporting for duty in the Old as Mold club. 43 in feb and youth is a distant memory. I feel very awkward singing Youth Gone Wild nowadays.
Shit, I felt funny singing it in 1987.... :lol

(I actually like it a lot more than I did then...)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 14, 2010, 01:55:44 PM
TAC, their second album did kick ass though.  Much more balls to it.


And lonestar..... :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 14, 2010, 07:09:34 PM
TAC, their second album did kick ass though.  Much more balls to it.


And lonestar..... :rollin

Slave to the Grind was an absolute killer album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAb3lovDp2c
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 15, 2010, 12:12:35 PM
Since this thread seems to double as the "guy thread", I'll post something I just read on Brews Bros that made me chuckle:

Quote
Some guy just said on the topic of the double standard that men can have sex with a lot of women and be considered a stud, but a woman does the same thing and is considered a slut:


"If you have a key that opens a lot of different locks, it's considered a master key.

If you have a lock that's opened by a lot of different keys, you have a shitty lock."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 15, 2010, 02:27:50 PM
Quote
Some guy just said on the topic of the double standard that men can have sex with a lot of women and be considered a stud, but a woman does the same thing and is considered a slut:


"If you have a key that opens a lot of different locks, it's considered a master key.

If you have a lock that's opened by a lot of different keys, you have a shitty lock."

:clap:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 15, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Since this thread seems to double as the "guy thread"

I don't want to make a big deal about it, but I think we should try to not also make this the "guy thread".  I mean, guys outnumber girls on DTF by a pretty good margin anyway, so it follows that this thread will be mostly old dudes, but I personally like the occassional female stopping by and wouldn't want to do anything to discourage that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 15, 2010, 08:30:28 PM
Right and I wasn't suggesting that it should be the "guy thread", just an observation.  Also the above quote does seem to be the general stereotype about the issue.  Just thought it was a kinda funny way of putting it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 15, 2010, 11:14:12 PM
It's funny, and I suppose it isn't even a "guy" joke.  If anything, it speaks of the inequity of the situation in a way that makes guys look kinda bad.  I was just saying that if some people were getting a strong testosterone vibe from this thread, then we need to be more conscious about keeping things female friendly.  To me, most things, even "guy" things, tend to be more pleasant with females around.
Title: Re: Sixth rule: No shirts, no shoes
Post by: LeeHarveyKennedy on December 15, 2010, 11:18:30 PM
Quote
Some guy just said on the topic of the double standard that men can have sex with a lot of women and be considered a stud, but a woman does the same thing and is considered a slut:


"If you have a key that opens a lot of different locks, it's considered a master key.

If you have a lock that's opened by a lot of different keys, you have a shitty lock."

:clap:

I'll admit, I never expected to see Tucker Max quoted in this thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 16, 2010, 04:04:42 AM
Just to repeat my question - what ways do you get feedback from relationships without making a big deal about it?

"How are you feeling?" seems a bit general. Or should you just pay attention to body language, read between the lines. The latter seems dangerous on its own.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on December 16, 2010, 11:20:07 AM
It is dangerous, but that's part of the fun.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 16, 2010, 12:11:54 PM
Just to repeat my question - what ways do you get feedback from relationships without making a big deal about it?

"How are you feeling?" seems a bit general. Or should you just pay attention to body language, read between the lines. The latter seems dangerous on its own.

AndyDT from all your questions I'm getting the feeling one of you are much more committed to the relationship than the other, but honestly if this is what is eating away at you, the only was to find out is to talk about it openly.

Trying to read too much or too little into someone's body language/expressions is not a road to go down, within any relationship communication is a huge key/stepping stone to having a healthy relationship.

PS too my fellow old fogies..sorry for turning this thread back into Dr. Phil therapy hour
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 16, 2010, 12:50:28 PM
Part of life.  I generally don't have a hell of a lot of common sense as far as relationships go (Mrs. Cozmo will attest to this), so I try not to offer any advice, but if the wiser fogies are able to be of assistance to Andy or anyone else, then that's cool.  I joke about the mamby-pamby thing - I'm not really being serious.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on December 16, 2010, 01:04:57 PM
Just to repeat my question - what ways do you get feedback from relationships without making a big deal about it?

"How are you feeling?" seems a bit general. Or should you just pay attention to body language, read between the lines. The latter seems dangerous on its own.

AndyDT from all your questions I'm getting the feeling one of you are much more committed to the relationship than the other, but honestly if this is what is eating away at you, the only was to find out is to talk about it openly.

Trying to read too much or too little into someone's body language/expressions is not a road to go down, within any relationship communication is a huge key/stepping stone to having a healthy relationship.

PS too my fellow old fogies..sorry for turning this thread back into Dr. Phil therapy hour

So you'd suggest being direct but not too serious?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 16, 2010, 02:36:31 PM
Just to repeat my question - what ways do you get feedback from relationships without making a big deal about it?

"How are you feeling?" seems a bit general. Or should you just pay attention to body language, read between the lines. The latter seems dangerous on its own.

AndyDT from all your questions I'm getting the feeling one of you are much more committed to the relationship than the other, but honestly if this is what is eating away at you, the only was to find out is to talk about it openly.

Trying to read too much or too little into someone's body language/expressions is not a road to go down, within any relationship communication is a huge key/stepping stone to having a healthy relationship.

PS too my fellow old fogies..sorry for turning this thread back into Dr. Phil therapy hour

So you'd suggest being direct but not too serious?

Not exactly...check your PM's
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 19, 2010, 08:41:42 AM
6 days of walking around in Disney World makes tick a tired boy. I just took a nice Epsom salt bath to soothe my aching body. Nothing like a relaxing vacation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 19, 2010, 02:26:02 PM
6 days of walking around in Disney World makes tick a tired boy. I just took a nice Epsom salt bath to soothe my aching body. Nothing like a relaxing vacation.
LOL were so fucking old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 19, 2010, 02:39:42 PM
But the pain is worth 6 days at Disney.  Man I love that place.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: chknptpie on December 19, 2010, 02:46:59 PM
So I know the title says 30 and over... but I'm 26 and everyone tells me I act like I'm 40... do I count?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 19, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
So I know the title says 30 and over... but I'm 26 and everyone tells me I act like I'm 40... do I count?
No.  Kindly GTFO. :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 19, 2010, 03:20:45 PM
So I know the title says 30 and over... but I'm 26 and everyone tells me I act like I'm 40... do I count?
No.  Kindly GTFO. :)

Im 46 and act 16 do you see me hanging out in the teen room  :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: veronica on December 19, 2010, 03:24:20 PM
So I know the title says 30 and over... but I'm 26 and everyone tells me I act like I'm 40... do I count?
Hey, I'm an honorary junior old fogey and I barely dare to look at this place before someone shoo's me off their lawn.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 19, 2010, 03:26:29 PM
Guys, guys, guys.  Flashing us gets a week pass in here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 19, 2010, 04:49:40 PM
Guys, guys, guys.  Flashing us gets a week pass in here.
Ooops, that's right, forgot about ol' titty rule #38, section DD.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 19, 2010, 05:24:35 PM
Guys, guys, guys.  Flashing us gets a week pass in here.
Ooops, that's right, forgot about ol' titty rule #38, section DD.

 :rollin  That's what I'm sayin'
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 19, 2010, 05:46:50 PM
I fully endorse this exception to the rule.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 19, 2010, 05:50:13 PM
I fully endorse this exception to the rule.
Thank you for bending your otherwise stubborn stance on fogiehood.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on December 19, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
I fully endorse this exception to the rule.
Thank you for bending your otherwise stubborn stance on fogiehood.

Until I actually see a flash I'm standing my ground....than again if I did (see a flash)  I may need my heart medication
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on December 19, 2010, 06:40:15 PM
(https://www.sacrificialbishop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/tits-or-gtfo.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2010, 06:05:36 AM
6 days of walking around in Disney World makes tick a tired boy. I just took a nice Epsom salt bath to soothe my aching body. Nothing like a relaxing vacation.
Awesome tick..we'll be there in about 6 weeks. Did you make it to the Sci Fi Diner?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on December 20, 2010, 06:31:46 AM
6 days of walking around in Disney World makes tick a tired boy. I just took a nice Epsom salt bath to soothe my aching body. Nothing like a relaxing vacation.

Awesome tick..we'll be there in about 6 weeks. Did you make it to the Sci Fi Diner?
Unfortunately with places booked like San Angel, Tepon Edu, Kona, and Whispering Canyon, it just wasn't possible this trip.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2010, 06:38:28 AM
6 days of walking around in Disney World makes tick a tired boy. I just took a nice Epsom salt bath to soothe my aching body. Nothing like a relaxing vacation.

Awesome tick..we'll be there in about 6 weeks. Did you make it to the Sci Fi Diner?
Unfortunately with places booked like San Angel, Tepon Edu, Kona, and Whispering Canyon, it just wasn't possible this trip.
Sounds like your body is not aching from walking..but aching from digesting!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 20, 2010, 08:59:10 AM
the women have strangely disappeared from this thread...and for once in the history of DTF I wasn't the cause.

(snicker)


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: bout to crash on December 20, 2010, 11:06:56 AM
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 20, 2010, 11:09:23 AM
^^don't start you^^
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: bout to crash on December 20, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
:eyebrows:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Neon on December 20, 2010, 04:11:34 PM
Well....Here it is.

I woke up this morning on the other side of 30.  I still have no idea who approved this.

So do I get to be in the Old As Mold Club now?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 20, 2010, 04:13:43 PM
Welcome Neon.  Time to pull up a chair, pull up a beer, and pull up your pants. :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Neon on December 20, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Who said I was wearing pants?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on December 20, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
Who said I was wearing pants?

Your already fitting in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 20, 2010, 04:42:26 PM
Cool, another female fogie.  Welcome, neon, let me show you the secret handshake, just grab this...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 20, 2010, 09:07:32 PM
someone get her a set of fake balls to scratch so she's not left out
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Neon on December 21, 2010, 07:34:02 PM
The scariest part is...I was 21 when I joined dt.net   :|

Where the hell did it all go?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on December 21, 2010, 09:03:25 PM
The scariest part is...I was 21 when I joined dt.net   :|

Where the hell did it all go?
I hear you.  I blinked, and next thing I know, my kid is 17, has a boyfriend, job, and car.  It goes way too fast to truly appreciate it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 03, 2011, 08:13:06 AM
Okay fogies, get your asses back to work!

One thing about getting older is that more often your job is a "regular" job.  Monday through Friday, business hours, usually in some office building or maybe a plant.  All through school, I worked a series of jobs where I'd have the night shift, day shift, work these days, get these days off, and it could vary from week to week depending on who was making the schedule.

If you're lucky, you end up in a somewhat steady arrangement where you work weekends because they're the busiest, plus some weekdays to fill up your schedule, and whatever days you don't work constitutes your weekend.  My "weekend" was Monday and Tuesday for a while, and yeah, it was kinda cool having days off when most other people were working, but eventually it was kinduva hassle because I was working Saturday and Sunday -- the real weekend -- when more and more of my friends were off.  Why?  Because they'd graduated and had real jobs, and I was still a loser student working part-time in restaurants.  I took some time off after high school to play loud music in bars and didn't finally graduate until I was 27.

Anyway, a big part of being a grown-up to me was getting a real Monday through Friday job with regular hours and not worrying about when my days off would be or if I had to plan around working the night shift or whatever.

But it's Monday morning after a helluva New Year's weekend and I really don't wanna go to work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 03, 2011, 08:20:13 AM
It's funny.  I remember about 30 years ago waking up one morning and thinking "holy fuck, I've still gotta do this for another 8 years."  Somehow, I thought that it'd all be better after I graduated. 

I spent most of Saturday working on my car, and I'm still sore as hell because of it.  I miss not being crippled after a hard days work. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on January 03, 2011, 08:27:24 AM
I spent a few hours Saturday, still shoveling snow ( from last weeks storm ) , by Saturday night my back was killing me.

Like you Orbert, I did not want to get out of bed this morning, I have been working as a consultant since Oct , and was getting paid by the time I spent working, so if I wanted to take a morning off, or maybe cut out earlier on a Friday afternoon I could, just wouldn't get paid for it. The offered me a full time position last week, which I officially started today. When the alarm went off, this morning I was like, let me just hit snooze for a bit, than it hit me, shit I have a responsibility to be there everyday now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on January 03, 2011, 08:47:32 AM
Wkiml, when I wake up to a dark wintry morning of sub-zero temps and piles of snow, I always have to remind myself to be thankful for that 'responsibility'.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on January 03, 2011, 08:56:33 AM
I too did not want to go back.  Been off work for 10 days.  Ouch.  A visit to VA to see my parents, 7 pitchers of daiquiris on NYE, and plenty of other fun in that time.  Now it's all over and the routine is back.  On the upside I'm off on the 17th and 18th for President's Day and Inauguration Day, so a 4-day weekend ain't far away.  Killer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 03, 2011, 02:21:23 PM
Glad all of you assholes enjoyed your holiday vacations.  I just finished two sixty plus hour weeks, including working Xmas eve and day and NY eve and day.  Now I wait impatiently till my four day weekend over Superbowl Sunday(dreams of slow smoked ribs and cold beer).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2011, 02:54:07 PM
I wish I had my job still to bitch with you guys.  All I've got is 6 hours of sleep and seeing my mom in the hospital.  She starts radiation tomorrow for 3 weeks then chemo.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on January 03, 2011, 03:32:29 PM
I wish I had my job still to bitch with you guys.  All I've got is 6 hours of sleep and seeing my mom in the hospital.  She starts radiation tomorrow for 3 weeks then chemo.

I'll keep her in my prayers.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 03, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
I wish I had my job still to bitch with you guys.  All I've got is 6 hours of sleep and seeing my mom in the hospital.  She starts radiation tomorrow for 3 weeks then chemo.
Hang in there man.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2011, 03:58:25 PM
Thanks wkiml & lonestar.  I just want to be positive for my mom.  Plus, I've got a damn fever right now so I might have to stay away from her tomorrow.  You know your old when your feeling sick and you drink tea.  Tea?!  Yup.  I'm old. :laugh:

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: antigoon on January 03, 2011, 04:13:11 PM
Hey! I always drink tea when I get sick!

*runs out of thread*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 03, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
I've been off since Christmas Eve. I was on vacation last week, and took today off. Then I go back tomorrow and have Wednesday off! :metal

Wkiml, when I wake up to a dark wintry morning of sub-zero temps and piles of snow, I always have to remind myself to be thankful for that 'responsibility'.  
That's very true and a great way of looking at it.


You know your old when your feeling sick and you drink tea.  Tea?!  Yup.  I'm old. :laugh:

I've just started to be able to drink tea again. When I was a kid, my mother gave me tea or ginger ale when I was sick, but whenever I drank them as an adult, I was like Pavlov's dog, I'd get a nauseous feeling.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Neon on January 03, 2011, 04:25:41 PM
I wish I had my job still to bitch with you guys.  All I've got is 6 hours of sleep and seeing my mom in the hospital.  She starts radiation tomorrow for 3 weeks then chemo.


Aw man I'm sorry to hear about your mom.  Stay strong for her!


And after months of being unemployed, I am so extremely grateful for having a job to go to that I kind of didn't mind having to get up today.  Sure it sorta sucked because I feel like I've got some illness or other trying to take hold, but it hasn't disabled me yet (and I'm one of those people that doesn't call out of work every time I get mild illnesses...the last time I called out was about 7 years ago when I had the flu and was so sore that I couldn't move).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 03, 2011, 04:36:05 PM
Hey! I always drink tea when I get sick!

*runs out of thread*
Does your mommy make it for you?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 03, 2011, 05:59:19 PM
I've just started to be able to drink tea again. When I was a kid, my mother gave me tea or ginger ale when I was sick, but whenever I drank them as an adult, I was like Pavlov's dog, I'd get a nauseous feeling.

Huh.  I'm pretty much the opposite.  Ginger ale is comfort food for me, for the same reason. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on January 11, 2011, 06:05:41 AM
What are good questions and topics for getting to know a date?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on January 11, 2011, 08:13:31 AM
What are good questions and topics for getting to know a date?
Explore your likes and dislikes and establish common ground. Simply ask questions about what she enjoys doing. Then talk about the stuff you both like. Keep things light and inject humor whenever possible. If it seem uncomfortable for long stretches your probably not a good match anyhow.

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2011, 08:23:40 AM
"What kind of music do you listen to?"  Or simply "What music do you listen to?"  The second version allows her to just tell you what artists she likes without getting into genres or otherwise pigeonholing her tastes.  She may be fine with that, or she may not give it a lot of thought.

"What kind of movies do you like to watch?"  Or simply "What are some of your favorite movies?"  Get an idea of what she likes without forcing her to categorize.

Be prepared to share.  You could even open the topic by mentioning your own favorites (carefully avoiding anything you think would be a turn-off) and then ask her.  That way it's more like sharing, give-and-take, and not an interrogation.

"Where are you from?" "Where did you grow up?"  These are common questions and usually harmless, but carry a potential danger.  If she had a really bad childhood for some reason, you don't want to take her back to that.  The only thing she'll remember about your date is that you seemed okay, but the first thing you asked her about is her childhood.  That can really wreck the rest of the evening.  I guess as long as you don't say "Tell me about your childhood" you're probably okay, but it still seems like potentially dangerous territory.

You're looking for common ground to discuss.  If any of her favorite bands or singers or actors or movies are the same as yours: Bingo!  Talk about them.  Have you always liked he/she/them/it?  How did you discover he/she/them/it?  If you're talking music, which is her favorite album or song?  If you're talking movies, what other movies did she like?

Very important: Once you've asked the question or brought up the topic, be prepared to listen.  Unless she's totally dominating the conversation, there will be natural pauses, which is where you ask an intelligent question, or it's your turn to share.  That's how you learn about each other.  
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 11, 2011, 12:13:55 PM
Damn, Orbert, you must have been an animal on the first date thing.  You were so right on one point, be prepared to share.  If one is not willing to open up initially, any hope for the future is doomed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2011, 12:28:07 PM
This is all stuff I picked up over time, with more than one "bad" first date along the way.  Looking back and putting it together, it's all common sense.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 11, 2011, 12:38:26 PM
Yep, hindsight is 20/20.  Now if these little snotfaces would just listen to us old fucks, they could avoid a lot of headaches.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: The Texas Pirate! on January 11, 2011, 01:56:32 PM
Yep, hindsight is 20/20.  Now if these little snotfaces would just listen to us old fucks, they could avoid a lot of headaches.
QFT

:yarr
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
I remember my dad telling me, "You'll know someday".

I was, "What a bunch of crock, dad".

And of course, he was right.  You only learn that when you get older.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 11, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
Total truth.  It's amazing the amount of respect you aquire for your parents once you realize they aren't completly full of shit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 11, 2011, 04:50:13 PM
I laughed at my dad once because he had to work out to stay in shape.  "I can eat anything I want and I never gain weight!  :rollin"  He just kind of chuckled about it.  Fucker. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 11, 2011, 04:54:21 PM
I laughed at my dad once because he had to work out to stay in shape.  "I can eat anything I want and I never gain weight!  :rollin"  He just kind of chuckled about it.  Fucker. 
I remember those days.
*stares at beer and bacon belly*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2011, 05:10:05 PM
I still don't listen to elders.

I keep saying I've got to stop snacking and yet..........
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on January 12, 2011, 05:55:47 AM
"What kind of music do you listen to?"  Or simply "What music do you listen to?"  The second version allows her to just tell you what artists she likes without getting into genres or otherwise pigeonholing her tastes.  She may be fine with that, or she may not give it a lot of thought.

"What kind of movies do you like to watch?"  Or simply "What are some of your favorite movies?"  Get an idea of what she likes without forcing her to categorize.

Be prepared to share.  You could even open the topic by mentioning your own favorites (carefully avoiding anything you think would be a turn-off) and then ask her.  That way it's more like sharing, give-and-take, and not an interrogation.

"Where are you from?" "Where did you grow up?"  These are common questions and usually harmless, but carry a potential danger.  If she had a really bad childhood for some reason, you don't want to take her back to that.  The only thing she'll remember about your date is that you seemed okay, but the first thing you asked her about is her childhood.  That can really wreck the rest of the evening.  I guess as long as you don't say "Tell me about your childhood" you're probably okay, but it still seems like potentially dangerous territory.

You're looking for common ground to discuss.  If any of her favorite bands or singers or actors or movies are the same as yours: Bingo!  Talk about them.  Have you always liked he/she/them/it?  How did you discover he/she/them/it?  If you're talking music, which is her favorite album or song?  If you're talking movies, what other movies did she like?

Very important: Once you've asked the question or brought up the topic, be prepared to listen.  Unless she's totally dominating the conversation, there will be natural pauses, which is where you ask an intelligent question, or it's your turn to share.  That's how you learn about each other.  
Thanks for that. I'm alwas reluctant to talk about listening to metal though. It conjures an image in my head of a loner which isn't great for a date.

What are good questions and topics for getting to know a date?
Explore your likes and dislikes and establish common ground. Simply ask questions about what she enjoys doing. Then talk about the stuff you both like. Keep things light and inject humor whenever possible. If it seem uncomfortable for long stretches your probably not a good match anyhow.

:tick2:
Thanks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 12, 2011, 08:15:02 AM
Hey old fogies.  Remember when you'd argue and you would stand your ground to the point of saying nasty things?  I see a lot of young kids doing this about MP and the new drummer.  I've learned over time that it's just not work fighting over stuff anymore.  There is realy never a resolution.  It's not like it's the end of the world.  The band will go on.  Same applies to arguements with the wife.  I don't anymore.  Too much waste of time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2011, 08:20:59 AM
I'm always reluctant to talk about listening to metal though. It conjures an image in my head of a loner which isn't great for a date.

You could still use it as a conversation point.  If she asks you what kind of music you like (remember, it's entirely possible that she'll be the one dominating the conversation and you won't actually have a lot of "work" to do), ask her to go first.  If she likes metal, you're fine.  If she's more into other genres or even says something to the effect that she doesn't like metal, you can still say "Well, I listen to metal.  There's something about it that just grabs me.  The passion, the energy, the raw power of it all."  Or something like that.  Regardless of her feelings about metal, she will hopefully recognize that this is the type of music that speaks to you, and it's not just "I like it loud and profane, baby!"

Also, I don't associate metal with loners.  I actually think of small groups of guys wearing a lot of black and swearing a lot.  But that's just as bad a stereotype as any other.  There are loners of all types.  I was the one guy in my little clique who listened to jazz and classical, and had no one to discuss it with, so I tended to listen to jazz and classical alone a lot.  Still do, actually.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on January 12, 2011, 08:23:12 AM
Hey old fogies.  Remember when you'd argue and you would stand your ground to the point of saying nasty things?  I see a lot of young kids doing this about MP and the new drummer.  I've learned over time that it's just not work fighting over stuff anymore.  There is realy never a resolution.  It's not like it's the end of the world.  The band will go on.  Same applies to arguements with the wife.  I don't anymore.  Too much waste of time.

My problem is I've always tried to get whoever I was with at the time to see that "it's not worth it" line of reasoning also: "In the bigger scheme of things and your life in general, this is really not worth getting so bent out of shape over."

Yeah, that doesn't work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2011, 12:03:34 PM
Hey old fogies.  Remember when you'd argue and you would stand your ground to the point of saying nasty things?  I see a lot of young kids doing this about MP and the new drummer.  I've learned over time that it's just not work fighting over stuff anymore.  There is realy never a resolution.  It's not like it's the end of the world.  The band will go on.  Same applies to arguements with the wife.  I don't anymore.  Too much waste of time.

I do like a good argument, but mostly because if someone disagrees with me, I honestly would like to hear why they think their view is the correct one.  I want them to convince me.  I consider myself a better person if I can understand someone else's point of view, even if I don't agree with it myself.

Incredibly, my understanding of arguments comes from the Monty Python sketch commonly known as "Argument Clinic."  (I'm sure it's on YouTube, find it yourself.)  After Palin and Cleese go back and forth a few times with "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No it isn't!" "Yes it is!" it's quite clear that they are not, in fact, arguing.  They are simply disagreeing, and neither of them is actually trying to convince the other of anything.  Neither is presenting any evidence, neither is trying to point out flaws in the other's position, nothing.  Palin correctly points out that it's not an argument.

Ever listen to little kids (and some adults) "argue"?  It sounds exactly like that.

"My dad can beat up your dad"
"Nuh-uh, my dad can beat up your dad"
"Nuh-uh, my dad can beat up your dad!"
"Nuh-uh, MY dad can beat up YOUR dad!"

A simple solution would be if one of them actually stated why he thought his dad could beat up the other one's dad.

"My dad is the heavyweight champion of the state, three years running.  He put four people in the hospital last year.  Your dad ran away screaming from a squirrel, we all saw it."
"Oh shit."

So now I look for actual logic and conclusions when I argue.

"Seriously, explain why you think blueberry is better than strawberry."
"It just is."
"That's it?  It just is?"
"Yeah.  It just is."
"Not because it tastes better, or is higher in vital nutrients, or cures AIDS?"
"No, it's just better."
"You're a moron and not worth my time."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: LudwigVan on January 13, 2011, 10:10:44 AM
Orbert, you're referring to the subtle difference between 'arguing' and 'debating'.

The former brings in elements of emotion and anger.   "Debating" is a better way to try and bring out each side's points. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on January 13, 2011, 10:13:30 AM
I'm always reluctant to talk about listening to metal though. It conjures an image in my head of a loner which isn't great for a date.

You could still use it as a conversation point.  If she asks you what kind of music you like (remember, it's entirely possible that she'll be the one dominating the conversation and you won't actually have a lot of "work" to do), ask her to go first.  If she likes metal, you're fine.  If she's more into other genres or even says something to the effect that she doesn't like metal, you can still say "Well, I listen to metal.  There's something about it that just grabs me.  The passion, the energy, the raw power of it all."  Or something like that.  Regardless of her feelings about metal, she will hopefully recognize that this is the type of music that speaks to you, and it's not just "I like it loud and profane, baby!"

Also, I don't associate metal with loners.  I actually think of small groups of guys wearing a lot of black and swearing a lot.  But that's just as bad a stereotype as any other.  There are loners of all types.  I was the one guy in my little clique who listened to jazz and classical, and had no one to discuss it with, so I tended to listen to jazz and classical alone a lot.  Still do, actually.
I met her for a meal last night and you're right, she did most of the takling. The subject never came up but that's definitely a good response.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on January 13, 2011, 10:22:43 AM
Orbert, you're referring to the subtle difference between 'arguing' and 'debating'.

The former brings in elements of emotion and anger.   "Debating" is a better way to try and bring out each side's points. 

And attempting either of the two with your significant other will find you on the losing side of the argument/debate.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 13, 2011, 11:50:33 AM
True!

Andy, so was it a "good" first date?  And by that I mean that a second date is likely.  If she did most of the talking, that's (mostly) good, for a couple of reasons.  It may be that she just needs someone to talk to.  If she thinks you're a good listener, that can be good and you'll be spending more time together.  It could also indicate that she's kinda lonely, and again that can be good.

The potential bad of course is that at some point you'll lose it and go "Damn it, woman! Can't you shut your yap for just five seconds and let me finish my potato?!"  Try not to do that.  Girls don't like it when you do that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 13, 2011, 12:11:36 PM

The potential bad of course is that at some point you'll lose it and go "Damn it, woman! Can't you shut your yap for just five seconds and let me finish my potato?!"  Try not to do that.  Girls don't like it when you do that.

Though it does work when in a long relationship. :lol  My wife fires back, "Shut your pie hole".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 13, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
Ah, true love!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: contest_sanity on January 13, 2011, 12:58:41 PM
The potential bad of course is that at some point you'll lose it and go "Damn it, woman! Can't you shut your yap for just five seconds and let me finish my potato?!"  Try not to do that.  Girls don't like it when you do that.
Though it does work when in a long relationship. :lol  My wife fires back, "Shut your pie hole".
I prefer invoking "shut-it stew."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vthrB0AVwy8
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on January 14, 2011, 05:29:32 AM
True!

Andy, so was it a "good" first date?  And by that I mean that a second date is likely.  If she did most of the talking, that's (mostly) good, for a couple of reasons.  It may be that she just needs someone to talk to.  If she thinks you're a good listener, that can be good and you'll be spending more time together.  It could also indicate that she's kinda lonely, and again that can be good.
Maybe yes. I enjoyed it definitely. She had a lot to say and wasn't needy at all which was great, and I was interested. I prefer listening in general.

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The potential bad of course is that at some point you'll lose it and go "Damn it, woman! Can't you shut your yap for just five seconds and let me finish my potato?!"  Try not to do that.  Girls don't like it when you do that.
Is there an etiquette to do that properly?

Also, there's definitely seems an art to keeping a conversation going with timing e.g. so you don't answer, stuff your mouth then it goes quiet.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 14, 2011, 08:37:58 AM
There's something of an art to it, yes, but I think it's more a matter of being comfortable with the rhythm and pace of the conversation.  Someone says something, the other replies, then you both take a mouthful while you think about what to say next.  There's nothing wrong with that.  If things are quiet for too long, I guess that can qualify as an "awkward pause," but I don't think it has to.  If you're really listening to her, you should be able to come up with things to say, even short little things, that will indicate that you're still listening and interested.

"Wow, that sounds pretty cool!"
"Really?  I don't think I've ever heard of..."
"Yeah, I knew this one guy who..."

But I can pretty much talk for hours about anything.  I know that doesn't come naturally to a lot of people (thank God) but I rarely have found any topic to be so boring, so completely void of anything that I care about or understand, that I couldn't at least comment on it intelligently. It does require some quick thinking sometimes.

There's no rule about how much conversation must take place.  Sure, part of the whole point is to talk, but you're also eating and you both know that, so there will be pauses.  Look at her while you're chewing.  Find something to comment on.  Her hair, her clothes, her jewelry.  When you've exhausted the topics you had ready to go, tell her you like her earrings or her dress or something.  Maybe something will remind you of someone else who had something similar.  Hopefully she'll thank you, and if you're lucky, she'll mention where she got it or who gave it to her, and there you go, the conversation is off in another direction.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on January 14, 2011, 11:14:03 AM
Andy.
I have to say, I like you a whole bunch more in this thread than over in the P/R forum.

Im not judging the content or quality of your posts over there. Nor am I saying I disliked you over there.

Im simply saying I like you better here.


(that is all)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on January 14, 2011, 02:11:12 PM
I was wondering about this:

"When you mentioned....I thought about..." to resurrect the conversation
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on January 15, 2011, 04:12:18 AM
Andy.
I have to say, I like you a whole bunch more in this thread than over in the P/R forum.

Im not judging the content or quality of your posts over there. Nor am I saying I disliked you over there.

Im simply saying I like you better here.


(that is all)

Thanks for sharing how you feel. I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 18, 2011, 01:44:08 PM
For all you old fogies.  It is a sad day today. Don Kirshner passed away today at the age of 76.  Some links say 77 some say 76.

https://www.billboard.com/news/don-kirshner-legendary-music-exec-dead-at-1004139289.story#/news/don-kirshner-legendary-music-exec-dead-at-1004139289.story

I have such fond memories of watching Don Kirshner's Rock Concert as a child.  R.I.P.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on January 18, 2011, 03:30:13 PM
Damn.  Long before I was old enough to go to concerts, I was old enough to stay up late on Friday night and check out "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert."  Awesome stuff, easily one of my earliest and best exposures to live rock and roll in the 70's.

Thanks, Don.  You were the man.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Samsara on January 18, 2011, 05:38:36 PM
If I'm old as mold, that must make TAC mold from the dinosaur era...  Just sayin'...   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2011, 06:08:37 AM
If I'm old as mold, that must make TAC mold from the dinosaur era...  Just sayin'...   :biggrin:
I'm nowhere near the oldest fogey here! So what does that say about them? :lol



I was going to start a thread about Don Kirshner, but it's fitting that it's in this thread. I loved watching Don Kirshner's Rock Concert. Way before MTV... I used to watch it when it came on after Saturday Night Live 1980-1982. Learned about so many bands, it was must see. Thin Lizzy, Def Leppard, Rush..
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on January 19, 2011, 04:07:41 PM
Was it USA Network that had a late night rock show?  Night Flight?  I watched that all the time too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on January 20, 2011, 04:49:26 PM
Was it USA Network that had a late night rock show?  Night Flight?  I watched that all the time too.
Oh shit..YES!!!! Completely forgot about that! Good call, King!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on January 20, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
If I'm old as mold, that must make TAC mold from the dinosaur era...  Just sayin'...   :biggrin:
I'm nowhere near the oldest fogey here! So what does that say about them? :lol

Hey, I'm 46 and far from old. I WILL NOT BE DEFINED BY A NUMBER!

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on January 23, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
So who remembers trash/cup fights during the big festivals way back when?  Every year at the Texxas Jam it was the floor vs. the balcony.  Loads of fun.  Hell, the trash fight was usually more entertaining than half the bands.  Don't see them happening any more. 

Kids today suck.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on January 24, 2011, 05:56:06 AM
So who remembers trash/cup fights during the big festivals way back when?  Every year at the Texxas Jam it was the floor vs. the balcony.  Loads of fun.  Hell, the trash fight was usually more entertaining than half the bands.  Don't see them happening any more. 

Kids today suck.
I hear that. What do they do now, have text fights?

:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: lonestar on January 24, 2011, 02:34:52 PM
So who remembers trash/cup fights during the big festivals way back when?  Every year at the Texxas Jam it was the floor vs. the balcony.  Loads of fun.  Hell, the trash fight was usually more entertaining than half the bands.  Don't see them happening any more. 

Kids today suck.
I hear that. What do they do now, have text fights?

:tick2:
Nah, they're too busy on Facebook.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 07, 2011, 04:16:31 AM
Had a good date at the weekend. I always get the feeling in the days after - what am I supposed to do now?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on February 07, 2011, 05:35:09 AM
Call her.
But not right away.
Give it two days..but early on the second day, so almost a day and a half.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 07, 2011, 05:43:03 AM
Call her and express what a good time and you enjoyed her company.  Ask if she'd like to go on a date again.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2011, 06:00:56 AM
Had a good date at the weekend. I always get the feeling in the days after - what am I supposed to do now?
Do whatever you want to do. If you want to call and tell her..do it. I don't think there's any need to wait a certain amount of time. Just be yourself. If you WANT to wait, fine, but if you don't..then DON'T.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 07, 2011, 06:25:08 AM
Thanks. It was the second date in fact. What's a good way of doing this? Picking up on something we were talking about last time?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: El Barto on February 07, 2011, 08:24:26 AM
Thanks. It was the second date in fact. What's a good way of doing this? Picking up on something we were talking about last time?
No.

Call her and express what a good time and you enjoyed her company.  Ask if she'd like to go on a date again.
Yes. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 08, 2011, 03:50:19 AM
What about asking what the lady wants to do? What I want to do is to let her feel good, have a good time. To me, that means letting her do what she wants to do provided it doesn't cross my values etc.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 08, 2011, 07:12:19 AM
Had a good date at the weekend. I always get the feeling in the days after - what am I supposed to do now?
Andy, don't take this the wrong way, but damn! trust your own instincts! Your your own person with your own unique personality. You don't need to ask for advice for your every move.
What do you do now?
You call her if you had a good time. You ask her how she's doing.You tell her you had a good time, and ask her if she did as well. You tell  you want to take out again!
You don't need us to tell you this stuff. Be yourself and act natural as if your talking to an old friend. If a girl feels your comfortable and confident in who you are, you can't loose. Unless she doesn't like who that person is, and in that case you can't win anyway.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 08, 2011, 08:14:47 AM
Had a good date at the weekend. I always get the feeling in the days after - what am I supposed to do now?
Andy, don't take this the wrong way, but damn! trust your own instincts! Your your own person with your own unique personality. You don't need to ask for advice for your every move.
What do you do now?
You call her if you had a good time. You ask her how she's doing.You tell her you had a good time, and ask her if she did as well. You tell  you want to take out again!
You don't need us to tell you this stuff. Be yourself and act natural as if your talking to an old friend. If a girl feels your comfortable and confident in who you are, you can't loose. Unless she doesn't like who that person is, and in that case you can't win anyway.
What's comfortable and confident though? I can have confidence most of the time and be relaxed but I'm not going to pretend I'm something I'm not i.e. experienced with relationships. I need some way of communicating that without coming across as unconfident and the only way I can think of is just being straight and truthful -or in the vernacular "putting my balls on the table." Blindly going along saying "let's go out, let's go out" seems to give the wrong impression. Admittedly I could have said this earlier but there it is.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 08, 2011, 08:35:28 AM
Comfortable and confident generally comes from experience.  You're comfortable and confident because you've done it before, you know how it works, and you're ready for most contingencies.  It's possible to be comfortable and confident when you've never done something before, but that's often borne of naiveté, and often you find out that you only thought you had it all figured out.

But you are allowed to be comfortable with yourself and confident in your own abilities, even if you're applying them to a new situation.

What about asking what the lady wants to do? What I want to do is to let her feel good, have a good time. To me, that means letting her do what she wants to do provided it doesn't cross my values etc.

That's a great idea actually.  Call her (standard "not too soon don't wanna seem too anxious, but don't wait too long don't want her to lose interest" warning) and chat a bit.  Talk about how much you enjoyed your last date.  Ask her if she'd like to do it again, and what she might want to do.  You've shown initiative, but also flexibility and willingness to let her make some decisions as well.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 08, 2011, 05:52:21 PM
Lets get this thread back to what it is. A bunch of semi old farts conversing about shit.
:tick2:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: webpoet73 on February 08, 2011, 09:43:45 PM
I refuse to be called old as mold!  I am a very young 37.  Life is great now.  :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 09, 2011, 12:27:39 AM
I find that I tend to go on the same kind of dates. After all, eating and drinking is probably the best and easiest way to have a conversation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 09, 2011, 12:28:34 AM
Lets get this thread back to what it is. A bunch of semi old farts conversing about shit.
:tick2:
Don't let me stop you. I just appreciate the advice of people with a bit more experience.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on February 09, 2011, 06:28:03 AM
Lets get this thread back to what it is. A bunch of semi old farts conversing about shit.
:tick2:
Don't let me stop you. I just appreciate the advice of people with a bit more experience.

Since we are talking about getting back on topic and shit and such..let me tell you about this number 2 I dropped yesterd.......ohhh wait..not that type of shit...hey I woke up and I'm still breathing so its a good day
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on February 09, 2011, 09:23:52 AM
I've matured on my enjoyment of bj's since hitting my 30's.

I was in the minority for most of my late teens and 20's about being completely indifferent about the bj. Good or bad, I've had both but they didn't really get me to the desired results.....ever.
But.
In my 30's I've noticed the old boy needs a bit more coaxing to get him up to speed. And the the bj is now a munch enjoyed and welcomed part of the over all act.

*discuss*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 09, 2011, 09:26:12 AM
I've matured on my enjoyment of bj's since hitting my 30's.

I was in the minority for most of my late teens and 20's about being completely indifferent about the bj. Good or bad, I've had both but they didn't really get me to the desired results.....ever.
But.
In my 30's I've noticed the old boy needs a bit more coaxing to get him up to speed. And the the bj is now a munch enjoyed and welcomed part of the over all act.

*discuss*
Well, its very erotic so that's always been the draw for me because the result is rarely as satisfying as I would hope it to be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 09, 2011, 09:28:11 AM
the bj is now a munch enjoyed and welcomed

The blowjob is indeed a munch enjoyed and welcomed, but for me it always has been.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: EPICVIEW on February 09, 2011, 10:48:46 AM
Im in this club...still..LOL
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on February 09, 2011, 11:53:18 AM
the bj is now a munch enjoyed and welcomed

The blowjob is indeed a munch enjoyed and welcomed, but for me it always has been.

The BJ at times is all i want and need
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 09, 2011, 12:07:53 PM
Seriously.  The older you get (and the older she gets), the more effort is involved.  Sometimes, actually most of the time, I'd be fine laying back having a munch enjoyed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 10, 2011, 05:52:16 AM
Thinking about King this morning. I hope he's doing ok.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on February 10, 2011, 06:11:15 AM
this sentiment is popping up in a few threads....and Im in the same boat.
Funny how internet communities work....I don't even know the guy....but I feel bad for him and his family.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 10, 2011, 07:05:55 AM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Lowdz on February 11, 2011, 11:52:47 AM
Another birthday came and went last week. Pipe and slippers beckon.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: wkiml on February 11, 2011, 02:26:16 PM
Another birthday came and went last week. Pipe and slippers beckon.

Happy belated
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 15, 2011, 07:08:29 AM
I've been going on dates, seen a couple of people two or more times but nothing lasting a long time. I'm trying to stay in the game, finding and maintaining new dating contacts, but find this means I'm trying to keep open contacts with 2 or more women at the same time. I draw the line at seeing more than one person at the same time so I lose touch with some along the way. Am I doing this right?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 15, 2011, 08:23:36 AM
Do it "right" depends on the what you're comfortable with.  Being a practical guy, I don't see a huge problem with seeing more than one person casually, or even semi-seriously, as long as it's understood by all parties that you're just seeing each other and there's nothing exclusive.  The "practical" aspect comes in because I like to maximize my chances.  If one girl ends up not working out, there's always the other(s).

But that also means juggling schedules and keeping track of multiple sets of interests and priorities and all that.  You definitely do not want to find yourself asking your date how something turned out, you know, that thing you talked about last time, only to realize that it was a different girl and you got them mixed up for a minute.  So I can see why, as a rule, some guys prefer to keep things one-on-one.

The important thing is that you're back in the game and sharpening your skills.  Yes, that makes it sound rather impersonal or something, but as I said, I'm a practical guy, and this is something which often requires some thought and review along the way.  It sounds to me like you're doing fine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 16, 2011, 03:43:09 AM
Do it "right" depends on the what you're comfortable with.  Being a practical guy, I don't see a huge problem with seeing more than one person casually, or even semi-seriously, as long as it's understood by all parties that you're just seeing each other and there's nothing exclusive.  The "practical" aspect comes in because I like to maximize my chances.  If one girl ends up not working out, there's always the other(s).

But that also means juggling schedules and keeping track of multiple sets of interests and priorities and all that.  You definitely do not want to find yourself asking your date how something turned out, you know, that thing you talked about last time, only to realize that it was a different girl and you got them mixed up for a minute.  So I can see why, as a rule, some guys prefer to keep things one-on-one.

The important thing is that you're back in the game and sharpening your skills.  Yes, that makes it sound rather impersonal or something, but as I said, I'm a practical guy, and this is something which often requires some thought and review along the way.  It sounds to me like you're doing fine.
Thanks. Yes I don't want to shut somebody out only to find that the person I'm seeing was never serious but that's the risk.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Tick on February 16, 2011, 06:58:06 AM
I've been going on dates, seen a couple of people two or more times but nothing lasting a long time. I'm trying to stay in the game, finding and maintaining new dating contacts, but find this means I'm trying to keep open contacts with 2 or more women at the same time. I draw the line at seeing more than one person at the same time so I lose touch with some along the way. Am I doing this right?
If you have had multiple dates, your doing something right.
I was usually a one(serious) relationship at a time guy. If you see too many women at the same time, it fucks with your mind a bit too much, imo.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: Orbert on February 16, 2011, 07:51:36 AM
I've never actually dated "too many women at the same time" so I wouldn't know, but it sounds like an awesome problem to have.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2011, 07:59:10 AM
It's good because in the end, one will come out on top for Andy.  He'll feel the attraction of one over the others.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advise Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2011, 09:39:33 AM
How many old farts had a certain initials for putting your high score up on a video games.  Mine was ALX.  For Alex Lifeson.  I always used that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advise Forum
Post by: Orbert on February 16, 2011, 10:39:31 AM
I always just used BOB, since it's my name and it's only three letters.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on February 16, 2011, 02:02:45 PM
I used ICE, short for The Iceman, and  :lol at the thread title change.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club ! Ages 30 and over
Post by: AndyDT on February 17, 2011, 02:27:35 AM
It's good because in the end, one will come out on top for Andy.  He'll feel the attraction of one over the others.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: wkiml on February 17, 2011, 07:00:33 AM
BRK   my initials ... :lol also at the new Thread name
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advise Forum
Post by: El Barto on February 17, 2011, 08:05:04 AM
How many old farts had a certain initials for putting your high score up on a video games.  Mine was ALX.  For Alex Lifeson.  I always used that.
LSD  Er, no particular reason. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advise Forum
Post by: lonestar on February 17, 2011, 11:19:37 AM
How many old farts had a certain initials for putting your high score up on a video games.  Mine was ALX.  For Alex Lifeson.  I always used that.
LSD  Er, no particular reason. 
:\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on February 25, 2011, 02:52:17 AM
I'm trying to make more effort to phone up as I think it makes a difference sometimes. Do you normally wait until evening or phone at work? I phoned at work once before and the woman sounded awkward.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on February 25, 2011, 06:18:18 AM
I'm trying to make more effort to phone up as I think it makes a difference sometimes. Do you normally wait until evening or phone at work? I phoned at work once before and the woman sounded awkward.
Don't call a woman at work unless your in a long standing relationship and its an important matter.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on February 25, 2011, 06:27:21 AM
I, to this day never bug my wife at work unless it's important.  If she has a cell she can't pick up at work, leave a little message for her to listen to durring her breaks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on February 25, 2011, 07:28:36 AM
Yeah, that might not have been the best move.  Some jobs have times when you literally have nothing to do, yet your job requires that you man your station just in case something comes up, but most jobs have you busting ass for eight hours straight, especially nowadays as employers squeeze every dime out of you that they can.  You don't want to assume someone can just chat while at work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on February 27, 2011, 03:12:31 PM
Thanks. I think that's good advice although nowadays a text (which I sent before phoning at night) might be useful or polite.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on February 27, 2011, 09:22:14 PM
For a long time, I was against texting in principle, just because it's faster (for me) and more personal to just call the person and talk.  But I've since come to realize that texting has its advantages.  You don't have to reply immediately, but the information gets passed along.  My wife will shoot me a text at work once in a while with information that I'll need later, but isn't enough to interrupt me if I might be in a meeting or something.  And I can confirm later that I received it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on February 27, 2011, 09:33:37 PM
Most of my friends are in their early 30's, so I was kind of forced into texting to maintain communication with them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on March 04, 2011, 06:36:16 AM
I said at the end of the last date for her to phone me up if she wanted. She said she would and I offered to make her a meal not wanting to suggest doing the same thing again. Now I've got to wait potentially for no reply.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 04, 2011, 07:46:39 AM
I have never sent a text. I'm thinking when my daughter becomes a teen that may change.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on March 25, 2011, 04:47:22 AM
I'm wondering if I could talk more on dates. What do you say?

- I don't want to quiz here about things she doesn't want to speak about ie. if I ask a couple of questions and she's not forthcoming then I take it as a sign that she's not interested in talking about that more.

- observational things. These are good whether they're a hook to something shared or something you know abuot her or just interest

- comments and questions - keeping an existing topic going

- disclosures - not generally good unless part of follow-up comments as they can make you seem self-absorbed

Am I missing something else?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 25, 2011, 07:40:29 AM
Yes, the trivial stuff.  The small details that tell her something about you, which are kinda pointless later but possibly important now.

"I read this article the other day about <something>.  I guess they've come up with some new methods of <something> that are more efficient and less expensive now.  I thought that was pretty cool."

It could be a magazine or online article, something you saw on the news, or even something you just heard about.  Something you found interesting.  Bring it up.  If it's something she also heard about, or something she finds interesting, then you have something to talk about.  If she's interested but hadn't heard, you have an opportunity to demonstrate your mad skills by telling her about it.  At the very least, she has found out something new about you, your interests, and how you feel about a certain topic.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on March 25, 2011, 11:29:37 AM
I find alot of good talk comes from feeding off her stuff...her answers.
Where do you work, what do you do.
THEN

Even if you know the answers already about company x, and business y.....ask her about it anyhow....AND BE INTERESTED....AND LISTEN.......feed off that.....lead it to more questions....life experience stories.

Don't one up her stories..or try not to either.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on March 25, 2011, 04:27:56 PM
I find alot of good talk comes from feeding off her stuff...her answers.
Where do you work, what do you do.
THEN

Even if you know the answers already about company x, and business y.....ask her about it anyhow....AND BE INTERESTED....AND LISTEN.......feed off that.....lead it to more questions....life experience stories.

Don't one up her stories..or try not to either.

Yes thanks that's great advice. I find that some people need to warm up a bit before they'll get into a flow but then it leads onto all this great stuff you mention. So you've got to watch you're not too sensitive to them not apparently being interested if you see what I mean?

Yes, the trivial stuff.  The small details that tell her something about you, which are kinda pointless later but possibly important now.

"I read this article the other day about <something>.  I guess they've come up with some new methods of <something> that are more efficient and less expensive now.  I thought that was pretty cool."

It could be a magazine or online article, something you saw on the news, or even something you just heard about.  Something you found interesting.  Bring it up.  If it's something she also heard about, or something she finds interesting, then you have something to talk about.  If she's interested but hadn't heard, you have an opportunity to demonstrate your mad skills by telling her about it.  At the very least, she has found out something new about you, your interests, and how you feel about a certain topic.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on March 26, 2011, 09:36:07 AM
Okay oldies... I need to buy health insurance on my own and need to know where to start. I'm working through a temp agency and their health insurance doesn't seem too great. Help please.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 26, 2011, 11:02:56 PM
Find out what they offer through your temp agency anyway.  Anything paid for by the company is better than nothing.  Even if they don't pay for part of your premiums, you almost certainly will qualify for a better rate through them than on your own, because they're getting a group rate.  You're right, though; it's probably not great, but it'll be better than nothing.  If you're young and healthy, you probably want to opt for a higher deductible in exchange for lower premiums.  Catastrophic situations will max out your deductible anyway and that's all you'll pay.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on March 27, 2011, 10:39:31 AM
Find out what they offer through your temp agency anyway.  Anything paid for by the company is better than nothing.  Even if they don't pay for part of your premiums, you almost certainly will qualify for a better rate through them than on your own, because they're getting a group rate.  You're right, though; it's probably not great, but it'll be better than nothing.  If you're young and healthy, you probably want to opt for a higher deductible in exchange for lower premiums.  Catastrophic situations will max out your deductible anyway and that's all you'll pay.

Oh my gosh the last two sentences are like a foreign language haha. Higher deductible means I pay lower per month correct? Yet, also means that I have to pay more anytime I need to see a doctor right?
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Post by: carl320 on March 27, 2011, 11:12:13 AM
Find out what they offer through your temp agency anyway.  Anything paid for by the company is better than nothing.  Even if they don't pay for part of your premiums, you almost certainly will qualify for a better rate through them than on your own, because they're getting a group rate.  You're right, though; it's probably not great, but it'll be better than nothing.  If you're young and healthy, you probably want to opt for a higher deductible in exchange for lower premiums.  Catastrophic situations will max out your deductible anyway and that's all you'll pay.

Oh my gosh the last two sentences are like a foreign language haha. Higher deductible means I pay lower per month correct? Yet, also means that I have to pay more anytime I need to see a doctor right?

Yeah the higher deductibles will lower your monthly premium.  I'm not sure what the higher deductible will do to your copay (what you pay the doctor at the time of your visit).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 27, 2011, 10:47:50 PM
Insurance 101

Insurance companies collect payments from customers in advance; these payments are known as premiums.  When customers get injured or sick, or for any other reason need to see a medical professional or hospital, the insurance company pays for part or even all of the bill, depending on the arrangement they have with the customer.  The process of getting the insurance company to pay the medical professional or hospital is called a claim.  Sometimes the professional or hospital will file the claim on behalf of the customer; sometimes the customer files the claim.

Obviously for the insurance company to make money, the amount they collect in premiums has to be more than what they pay in claims.  There are two main ways that insurance policies can be set up in order to reduce how much the insurance company pays: (1) there is a deductible amount, or (2) there is a co-pay amount.  These are similar but not exactly the same, and sometimes both can apply to the same claim.

A co-pay amount is a fixed amount that the patient pays each time.  For example, if your co-pay is $25, then every time you go to the doctor, be it for a regular checkup, because you're sick, whatever, you pay $25 and the insurance company pays the rest.  In exchange, the premiums you pay monthly are lower.  Lower, that is, compared to what you'd pay if you want the insurance to pay the entire bill.

A deductible amount is a fixed amount, much higher than a co-pay, that is your total responsibility to pay over a certain period of time (usually one year, but sometimes lifetime).  For major things like a stay in the hospital, the insurance company will cover 80% of the bill, up to a certain amount.  That sounds pretty good until your realize that even a few days in the hospital costs thousands of dollars. A serious injury or operation can cost tens or hundreds of thousands, so you're still on the hook for thousands, up to your deductible amount.  If your total deductible is $10,000, then that's all you pay, period.  No matter how high the bills go, the insurance company picks up the rest of the bill.  This is to prevent people from getting completely wiped out financially by a single catastrophic illness.  Yeah, $10,000 is still a lot of money, but you or your parents or hopefully somebody will be able to raise or borrow that much.  A total hospital bill for half a million dollars would destroy a lot of people.

So... if your employer offers more than one insurance plan, then there's going to be a plan where you pay higher premiums but have a lower (or non-existant) co-pay.  There will be a plan where the premiums are lower, but in return you pay more out-of-pocket each time you see the doctor.  There can be any number of plans in between.  There can also be plans with a higher deductible in exchange for lower premiums (think about it; it makes sense) and vice versa.

The company I work for offers I think seven different plans underwritten by three different insurance companies.  I pick the one that makes the most sense for my family and our situation.  You need to do the same thing.

If they only offer one plan, there's no deciding.  It will almost certainly be a better deal than you can find through an independent agent.  This is because the company is getting a group rate from the insurer, and possibly subsidizing it as well.  Otherwise you have to weigh the difference in premiums you pay each month/year/whatever against how often you visit the doctor and what you'll pay out-of-pocket each time, and how well you want to be protected against catastrophic illness.  Also, if you're still a full-time student and/or under a certain age, you may still be covered by your parent's insurance, so you should check with them.  You may not need to get your own insurance at all.  My son is 18, but as long as he's a full-time student, he's covered on my policy until he's 25.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on March 28, 2011, 08:43:35 AM
Wow thank you very much! Care to explain auto insurance too? HAHAHA
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 28, 2011, 11:13:17 AM
It's actually very similar.  And I realize now that I titled my little essay "Insurance 101" when it only focused on Health Insurance.

But Auto Insurance is similar in that they'll offer lower premiums in exchange for a higher deductible.  The difference is that the deductible is more important than the co-pay, and there may not even be a co-pay.  With Auto Insurance, your primary concern is getting your car fixed (and possibly the other person's car if the accident was your fault and you live in a state where that means you have to pay), which is always in the thousands of dollars.  There isn't an analagous situation with co-pays and doctor visits because regular check-ups are oil changes and tune-ups and new tires and stuff.  You don't pay for those via insurance unless you're an idiot; you pay for those out of pocket.

The plans I've seen usually have Zero deductible, $250, or $500.  I'm sure you could go higher.  Same concept, though.  The total repairs might be $5000, but you only pay the deductible amount.  Therefore you look at how much the difference will be for premiums compared to how much you'll have to pay out-of-pocket should you get into an accident.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on March 28, 2011, 07:16:55 PM
I guess the whole liability thing confuses me... sorry I've hijacked this thread lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 28, 2011, 09:43:41 PM
That's okay.  Old people get off on imparting their knowledge to younger folks.  It makes them feel important or smart or something.

Liability simply means "Whose fault was it?"/"Who must pay?"  Or nowadays, "Whose insurance company must pay?"  The simplest case is an accident between two cars, and a police officer gives a ticket to one or the other party.  Someone ran a red light, or turned without signalling, or something.  If somebody gets a ticket, then it's clearly that person's fault, which means that they have to pay to fix both cars.  Or nowadays, their insurance company has to pay.

Some states are "no-fault" states, which means that unless there are extenuating circumstances, it doesn't matter whose fault it is; you pay for your car and the other person pays for theirs.  In a no-fault state, you pretty much have to have insurance, because you can be the safest driver in the world and if someone hits you, you still have to pay.  Also, if you finance a car (you're making payments on it), it must be insured.  No bank is going to lend you money for a car that might get totalled.  If your car gets toasted before you've finished paying for it, it severely jeopardizes their chances of getting their money, and they want their money, so they don't finance a car that's not insured.

If it's a single-car accident (you hit some ice and crash into a tree or something), then it's pretty obvious that you're paying for it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on March 29, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
I've been seeing this woman for around 5-6 weeks. Had some good dates, got on quite well. Got hard a couple of times. Then on Saturday we talk about past experience and it turns out she's still speaking to her ex who is about to emigrate and has been for months. Then she calls it off tonight saying she's not ready (which is exactly what the last woman I was with said - doesn't want a relationship yet). Am I missing some message here or should I just move on?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
If you try to force anything on her, you will only drive her further away.  Give it time, the thing with her ex may pass and she might come calling on you again.  And keep an open mind to other options, one of the best parts I have gotten out of dating is some solid friends.  If you are bugged about the mood switch, ask her about it.  If she doesn't want to talk, it might not be worth it. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 29, 2011, 03:04:35 PM
I've been seeing this woman for around 5-6 weeks. Had some good dates, got on quite well. Got hard a couple of times. Then on Saturday we talk about past experience and it turns out she's still speaking to her ex who is about to emigrate and has been for months. Then she calls it off tonight saying she's not ready (which is exactly what the last woman I was with said - doesn't want a relationship yet). Am I missing some message here or should I just move on?

This is just my opinion and interpretation of events, but I think it's bad news, Andy.  If you've been dating for five or six weeks and suddenly her ex is in the picture in any way, shape or form, and just as suddenly, she's "not ready for a relationship" then she's trying to let you down easily.  She does not want a relationship with you.  After a month and a half, she feels that she knows you well enough to make this decision, but rather than risk hurting your feelings, she's blaming it on herself not being ready.  You don't date someone for a month and a half and then figure out that you're not ready for a relationship.  You just don't like the one you're in or currently developing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2011, 03:08:32 PM
Orbert, I gotta give you some props, you got some serious wisdom in you, from one old fart to another.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on March 29, 2011, 03:17:30 PM
I've been seeing this woman for around 5-6 weeks. Had some good dates, got on quite well. Got hard a couple of times. Then on Saturday we talk about past experience and it turns out she's still speaking to her ex who is about to emigrate and has been for months. Then she calls it off tonight saying she's not ready (which is exactly what the last woman I was with said - doesn't want a relationship yet). Am I missing some message here or should I just move on?

This is just my opinion and interpretation of events, but I think it's bad news, Andy.  If you've been dating for five or six weeks and suddenly her ex is in the picture in any way, shape or form, and just as suddenly, she's "not ready for a relationship" then she's trying to let you down easily.  She does not want a relationship with you.  After a month and a half, she feels that she knows you well enough to make this decision, but rather than risk hurting your feelings, she's blaming it on herself not being ready.  You don't date someone for a month and a half and then figure out that you're not ready for a relationship.  You just don't like the one you're in or currently developing.
We were getting affectionate that night, she was doing the leading, and she starts talking about how her ex is still in the picture.

If you try to force anything on her, you will only drive her further away.  Give it time, the thing with her ex may pass and she might come calling on you again.  And keep an open mind to other options, one of the best parts I have gotten out of dating is some solid friends.  If you are bugged about the mood switch, ask her about it.  If she doesn't want to talk, it might not be worth it. 
Thanks. I didn't try to force a thing. You mean become friends with your ex? I don't get the friends thing. They dump you and then say "if you ever need to speak to a friend call me".

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Ryzee on March 29, 2011, 03:18:28 PM
Hey guys, so I'm turning 31 this year, I'm married and have a son who's almost 2.  Do I qualify for this club?  I don't need love advice or anything, just wanted to say "what up."  Sometimes I feel a little left out from the other age groups on here because I'm not in high school or college, and I have no idea what Pokemon is all about other than natural pop culture osmosis.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
By age alone, you qualify.  Welcome.  The cut line is 30 and over, but most of the regulars(myself, king, Orbert, wikml, etc) are in their forties.  I think there are seven of us really old fogies.  Then there is andy, who comes to us for our sage advice on issues of the heart.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 29, 2011, 03:28:11 PM
This is the Logan's Run forum. :laugh:
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Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2011, 03:31:46 PM
Never insult Logan's Run. Never.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on March 29, 2011, 03:34:21 PM
Dude(trying to act young) That's an homage to this thread.  My red light is flashing as I type!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Ryzee on March 29, 2011, 03:34:58 PM
Right on, I'll be sure to pop in here from time to time then!  :tup  It seems like my age group is the least represented, or at least the least vocal group on this forum.  From what I see it's mostly late teens/early-mid twenties high school and college kids, then you have your few fortysomethings running around making references to things from the '70s that go over my head!  For example: I've never seen Logan's Run  ??? 
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 29, 2011, 03:36:16 PM
There is a nugget of wisdom there.  Rent it!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 29, 2011, 03:38:24 PM
We were getting affectionate that night, she was doing the leading, and she starts talking about how her ex is still in the picture.

Okay then that's weird.  My revised interpretation is that he was always around, somewhere, but she thought she'd moved on and was ready to start something up with you.  But something has happened recently and now she needs a break to sort things out.  Stuff she thought she had sorted out.  Maybe he called her, they talked, she realized that she still has some feelings for him, I don't know.

But if she was doing the leading, and then decided to tell you that she's not ready, you're definitely getting mixed signals.  No heterosexual male can correctly interpret mixed signals from a female.  We've been working on it for 2 million years, so I don't think it's gonna happen in our lifetime.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2011, 03:43:07 PM
Dude(trying to act young) That's an homage to this thread.  My red light is flashing as I type!
:rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on March 29, 2011, 04:48:10 PM

We were getting affectionate that night, she was doing the leading, and she starts talking about how her ex is still in the picture.
That's about 2 levels beyond a red flag.  The girl seems to have issues, and you'd be well advised to let her deal with them on her own.  Don't be the guy to discover she's a basket case. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on March 30, 2011, 03:19:40 PM

We were getting affectionate that night, she was doing the leading, and she starts talking about how her ex is still in the picture.
That's about 2 levels beyond a red flag.  The girl seems to have issues, and you'd be well advised to let her deal with them on her own.  Don't be the guy to discover she's a basket case. 

Oh yea.  Amen El Barto.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on March 31, 2011, 05:32:15 AM
Hey guys, so I'm turning 31 this year, I'm married and have a son who's almost 2.  Do I qualify for this club?  I don't need love advice or anything, just wanted to say "what up."  Sometimes I feel a little left out from the other age groups on here because I'm not in high school or college, and I have no idea what Pokemon is all about other than natural pop culture osmosis.

Im 36, and started playing Pokemon last year.
It's an addictive little cock.
Start now.
or
When your son gets older maybe. Mine is 8 and we're hip deap in pokemon.
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Post by: Orbert on March 31, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
My son was 7 when we got him Pokémon Blue, so I was 37 at the time, and we both got kinda hooked on it.  I was able to shake it off because I was still addicted to Diablo II at the time.

In retrospect, I should've gone with Pokémon.  It would've been something to do together.
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Post by: carl320 on March 31, 2011, 10:40:09 AM
I just turned thirty and I didn't start playing Pokemon until a couple of years ago.  I joke that I was ten years late to the party, because I started playing Yellow.  It is an addicting game.
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Post by: Ryzee on March 31, 2011, 10:45:33 AM
Ya I think I just missed the Pokemon generation, by the time it started getting big I was just out of high school and didn't care about anything that wasn't partying.  It hit home when I saw the Pokemon thread here and realized that all these twentysomethings were probably young kids when it first came out and it's stuck with them, so it must be something cool.  The Ocarina of Time nostalgia I totally get, I guess I just barely missed the boat on Pokemon.  It sounds cool though, I'm sure once my kid reaches DS ownership age I'll get into it because from what I've seen they look like SNES era rpgs like FFIV/FFVI which I'm ALL ABOUT!  :lol
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on March 31, 2011, 11:36:06 AM
My son and I do the card game too...which is pretty neat. It teaches some math skills and some strategy as well. There just aren't many other kids playing TCG so..that's a bit of a bummer.
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Post by: Orbert on March 31, 2011, 12:58:18 PM
We played the card game for quite a while after I'd stopped playing the GameBoy games.  Heck, I think it was only in the last two or three years that we stopped buying new decks with special cards and all that.  Wizards really hit a gold mine with that stuff.  You can keep changing the cards, coming up with new ones, forever, and people will buy them because you "gotta catch 'em all!"
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Post by: Tick on March 31, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
I was watching a show today with an old Hungarian woman cooking authentic foods from Hungary. She reminded me of my grandmother. Then my mind started to drift away from what I was watching and I started thinking about how much I miss her. She has been gone 20 years now. Then I thought of my dad who passed away 22 years ago and I just starting getting sad. I guess that's one of the things that bothers me most about aging. I have lost so many loved ones and instead of time healing all wounds, I think it makes it worse. All the things my dad missed from knowing my wife, to knowing my beautiful daughter. My mom is now 76 and not in the best health. I started feeling guilty that I don't call her or make enough time for her like I should.
Just wanted to talk cause I was home sick today and I just started to bum out as my mind brought me to various places during the day.
Thanks for listening.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 31, 2011, 04:43:03 PM
I'm struggling with the loss of my mom now.  There's so many things that remind me of her & hearing you talk about it 20+ years later breaks my heart.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 31, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
I'm struggling with the loss of my mom now.  There's so many things that remind me of her & hearing you talk about it 20+ years later breaks my heart.
Sorry, King. I'm just having one of those days. It happens to me once in awhile. I a night about a year ago where I started crying uncontrollably in the middle of the night after having a dream about my father. My wife had all she could do to calm me down. I kind of felt foolish because I was over the top in my emotional breakdown.
She lost her mom at age 53 in 1999 of cancer.
I know your heartaches and I'm sorry.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 31, 2011, 06:55:56 PM
Thanks tick.  It's always the good thought that break me down.  I better news,  there's an ice cream place that makes about 50 flavors of ice cream that my dad goes to ever year.  He's so well known there he walks up and they've got the size and type of ice cream ready for him. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2011, 05:13:21 AM
Thoughts are with both of you guys!

Pokemon?? Really? in the fogeys thread? This is the domain of Stretch Armstrong, Steve Austin, & GI Joe!
Charmander GTFO!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 01, 2011, 05:21:41 AM
lol.......


suddenly a wild TAC appears.


Squirtle.
I CHOSE YOU!!!
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 01, 2011, 05:36:17 AM
Atari 2600 M-Fers!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: TAC on April 01, 2011, 05:42:39 AM
Don't make me bust out my Intellivision and put a Tank Battle on your ass!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on April 01, 2011, 05:44:26 AM
Don't make me bust out my Intellivision and put a Tank Battle on your ass!
  And cheat and go through the other end on the screen to make a tackle in football?!  To hell with your Intellivision! :lol

BTW, Going to see Brian Regan tonight in Boston. but WTF with the freaking snow?!
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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2011, 05:57:46 AM
No kidding! I couldn't watch the B's last night because the snow was sticking to the satellite. We kicked back with our My Cousin Vinnie DVD.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 01, 2011, 05:59:22 AM
I also had an intellivision.

TRON!!!

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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2011, 06:03:21 AM
I remember always having problems with the Intellivision controller. The round disc kept wearing out. They sold joystick like things to stick on to it.

I liked the hockey and the tank battle. Also the downhil skiing. I've never really been into video games though. It was interesting for about a year in the 7th grade. My brother, though, used to stay up all night playing the Dungeons And Dragons Intellivision game. Talk about primitive..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRtwlc_WJNM
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Post by: Tick on April 01, 2011, 06:47:41 AM
And lest we not forget. Magnavox - Odyssey 2 and Colecovision! :metal
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Post by: Zydar on April 01, 2011, 07:02:55 AM
And lest we not forget. Magnavox - Odyssey 2 and Colecovision! :metal

 :|
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 01, 2011, 07:23:11 AM
Colecovision was awesome.  Front Line was one of my favorite games.  I still have a soft spot for the Atari 2600 though.

Otherwise, I have a Commodore 64 emulator on my home computer, so I can play ALL of my old craptastic favorites from back then.  And there's a ton of them.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 01, 2011, 08:21:54 AM
Atari Adventure=winning.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 01, 2011, 08:28:08 AM
Riddle of the Sphinx, Adventure, Pitfall, Haunted House (surprisingly cool game), Journey Escape, etc.  Good stuff.
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Post by: El Barto on April 01, 2011, 08:33:29 AM
Yar's Revenge.  FTW.

Intellivision was cool for the Football, but I rarely got to play it since only the well-to-do kids got one. 

But then in my neck of the woods we had a chain of free-standing arcades (all of the closed up Pizza Huts and Dairy Queens).  Barstools, cigarette burns on the console,  drinking and smoking in the parking lot.  Great times.  It occurred to me the other day that kids today have no concept of the arcade.  A place where you go to play video games that cost a quarter (dollar now, I'm sure) wouldn't make sense.  Real shame.  The dark, loud, epilepsy inducing arcades were one of the great things of our era. 

Edit:  Journey: Escape had the 6x9s built into the cabinet so that Separate Ways would blast half way across the mall.  Great stuff.
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Post by: Durg on April 01, 2011, 08:34:12 AM
And lest we not forget. Magnavox - Odyssey 2 and Colecovision! :metal

I had an Odyssey.  A poor man's atari.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 01, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
I had the Nabu Network. I win for obscurity and for being technologically WAY ahead.
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Post by: Durg on April 01, 2011, 08:39:28 AM
BTW, Going to see Brian Regan tonight in Boston. but WTF with the freaking snow?!

"Brian, what's the i before e rule?"
"I before e... ALWAYS."
"What are you, an idiot, Brian?"
"Apparently."

i before e except after c and when sounding like a as in neighbor and weigh, and on weekends and holidays and all throughout May, and you'll always be wrong no matter what you say!"
That's a hard rule. That's a— that's a rough rule.
Plurals were hard, too.
“Brian, how do you make a word a plural?”
“You put a ‘s’…put a ‘s’ at the end of it.”
“When?”
“On weekends and holidays!!!”
“No, Brian. Let me show you.” So she asked this kid who knew everything,Irwin. “Irwin, what’s the plural for ox?”
“Oxen. The farmer used his oxen.”
“Brian?”
(chuckling) “What?”
“Brian, what’s the plural for box?”
“Boxen. I bought 2 boxen of doughnuts.”
"No, Brian, no. Let's try another one. Irwin, what's the plural for goose?"
"Geese. I saw a flock of geese."
"Brian!"
(half-crying) "Wha-at?"
"Brian, what's the plural for moose?"
"MOOSEN!! I saw a flock of moosen! There were many of 'em. Many much moosen. Out in the woods—in the woodes—in the woodsen. The meese want the food. The food is to eatenesen. The meese want the food in the woodyesen! In the, food in the woodenesen!"
"Brian! Brian. You're an imbecile."
"Imbecile-n."
"What are you speaking? German, Brian?"
"German. Jermain. Jermaine Jackson. Jackson Five. Tito!"
"Brian, what the heck are you talking about!?"
"I don't know, I don't know really."
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Post by: Durg on April 01, 2011, 08:42:43 AM
I had the Nabu Network. I win for obscurity and for being technologically WAY ahead.

I had a Timex Sinclair 1000 in the early 80's.  All it was was a BASIC interpreter.

(https://oldcomputers.net/pics/ts1000.JPG)
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 01, 2011, 08:44:05 AM
But then in my neck of the woods we had a chain of free-standing arcades (all of the closed up Pizza Huts and Dairy Queens).  Barstools, cigarette burns on the console,  drinking and smoking in the parking lot.  Great times.  It occurred to me the other day that kids today have no concept of the arcade.  A place where you go to play video games that cost a quarter (dollar now, I'm sure) wouldn't make sense.  Real shame.  The dark, loud, epilepsy inducing arcades were one of the great things of our era.

And the places that DO still have some free-standing arcade games in them - they're kinda craptastic games.  NOTHING like the awesomeness of arcade games back in the day.  Such a great memory.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 01, 2011, 08:51:48 AM
Durg. Spell cat.  K  A  T.  Then the guy walks off and says, I knew there was 2 t's in cat. :lol
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 01, 2011, 08:53:13 AM
hi fogeys!



Here's some mexican love to y'all.  :heart
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 01, 2011, 08:57:54 AM
hi fogeys!



Here's some mexican love to y'all.  :heart

Back at you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPC0vViz9us
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Post by: Tick on April 01, 2011, 09:00:01 AM
And lest we not forget. Magnavox - Odyssey 2 and Colecovision! :metal

I had an Odyssey.  A poor man's atari.
Except for the fact it wasn't cheaper.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 01, 2011, 09:00:09 AM
 :heart :heart :heart :heart
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Post by: Durg on April 01, 2011, 09:16:01 AM
Durg. Spell cat.  K  A  T.  Then the guy walks off and says, I knew there was 2 t's in cat. :lol

My son just had a science fair project to turn in and on the morning of the science fair I played that bit on the computer

"Whatcha got there Brian"
"It's a cup of dirt.  OK move along.  Just give me the F and move along"
"Tell me more about it Brian"
" Well...  It's  a cup and it's got dirt in it.  I call it cup-a-dirt.  Go on move along."

 :rollin
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 01, 2011, 09:51:59 AM
https://www.ieee.ca/millennium/telidon/telidon_nabu.html


NABU!!

Pretty good data transfer rate for 1980's.
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Post by: AndyDT on April 05, 2011, 02:28:36 AM
Had a date at the weekend, phoned to see if she wants to see again. She said "errr...errr" and put off an answer til today. Hopefully she doesn't leave it in the air but either way I figure it's time to move on unless she was just genuinely uncertain.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2011, 05:07:07 AM
hi fogeys!



Here's some mexican love to y'all.  :heart

Back at you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPC0vViz9us

One of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt3G0jsF-OY
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Post by: AndyDT on April 18, 2011, 03:46:17 AM
I spoke to somebody a couple of times in church but didn't get her number. Didn't want to push things or put her under pressure in that environment. Is it ok to ask somebody else for her contact details as i don't know when I might see her again?
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 18, 2011, 05:21:29 AM
I spoke to somebody a couple of times in church but didn't get her number. Didn't want to push things or put her under pressure in that environment. Is it ok to ask somebody else for her contact details as i don't know when I might see her again?

No.  Go back to that church and ask eye to eye.  It means so much more to the other person.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 18, 2011, 06:01:31 AM
wow...  can't believe I didn't see this thread earlier!  Well...maybe I did...but forgot...

I should fit right in with the curmudgeon crew  :tup
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Post by: AndyDT on April 18, 2011, 06:24:15 AM
I spoke to somebody a couple of times in church but didn't get her number. Didn't want to push things or put her under pressure in that environment. Is it ok to ask somebody else for her contact details as i don't know when I might see her again?

No.  Go back to that church and ask eye to eye.  It means so much more to the other person.
What - when the place is swarming?
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 18, 2011, 06:53:39 AM
I spoke to somebody a couple of times in church but didn't get her number. Didn't want to push things or put her under pressure in that environment. Is it ok to ask somebody else for her contact details as i don't know when I might see her again?

No.  Go back to that church and ask eye to eye.  It means so much more to the other person.
What - when the place is swarming?

Yes.  Ask her politely is you can talk to her in private.  Not asking face to face is a put off for women
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Post by: AndyDT on April 18, 2011, 08:03:46 AM
In this situation it might be a turnoff, yes.

Also, you'd have to ask in a subtle way as well though i.e. not "follow me to a private place"
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Post by: AndyDT on April 22, 2011, 10:22:51 AM
I often wonder when is the right time to ask out a woman if you like her. If it's somebody you might not see again, or may not see for weeks/months but have only spoken to a couple of times, you worry about her reacting like "oh God that's way to quick". But what can you do?
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Post by: Tick on May 05, 2011, 07:22:49 AM
Maybe I am old, but I find the whole, "cool story bro" thing to be annoying.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 05, 2011, 07:31:14 AM
(https://toomuchhappiness.com/photos/BroolStoryCo550.jpg)
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Post by: contest_sanity on May 05, 2011, 09:11:14 AM
(https://toomuchhappiness.com/photos/BroolStoryCo550.jpg)

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

That is fucking amazing!!!
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Post by: Orbert on May 05, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Maybe I am old, but I find the whole, "cool story bro" thing to be annoying.

I kinda liked it when it first showed up and was a sincere way of appreciating a story but in a rather informal way.  Usually a story that's nothing earth-shattering but somewhat interesting anyway.

Now it's used far more often as a sarcastic way to tell someone that you did not find the story interesting in the least.  Fuck that.  I just shared something with you, and if you didn't like it, I obviously don't care because I told you anyway.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 05, 2011, 11:51:46 AM
(https://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/gwiss/coolstory.jpg)
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 21, 2011, 08:33:35 PM
Dudes and Dudettes....  them young kids are showing us up again by starting their damn 20 something thread.... we must not let this go unanswered!!!!....... bueller??.......Bueller???  :biggrin:

**edit.... word on the Conv. hospital hall is that it's chocolate pudding night..PLUS they're showing "Cocoon"!!!!!! ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 21, 2011, 08:41:33 PM
I lost this a while ago.   Where the hell did I leave my thread!!  *Fist waving*
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 21, 2011, 08:44:55 PM
I lost this a while ago.   Where the hell did I leave my thread!!  *Fist waving*

sigh...... :facepalm:  Have you been taking your meds?????  sheesh..... ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 21, 2011, 08:47:10 PM
Have anybody seen my meds? :biggrin:
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 21, 2011, 08:48:56 PM
That new nurse was around earlier.....man I'd tap that!  But...I'd need my meds for that.....grrrrr.  It's a vicious circle!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on June 21, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
Not yet.  I just need the nurses to kiss the get the boy working.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 21, 2011, 09:32:44 PM
Not yet.  I just need the nurses to kiss the get the boy working.
:tup
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Post by: lonestar on June 21, 2011, 10:49:41 PM
Keep it down assholes, the Tonight Show's on!!!
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 21, 2011, 10:53:17 PM
Keep it down assholes, the Tonight Show's on!!!

pffffft....  Lawarance Welk rules!!!!!
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Post by: lonestar on June 21, 2011, 10:57:50 PM
I know, why the fuck did they did they cancel it.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 21, 2011, 11:09:06 PM
Today I got to yell at kids to get off my lawn!

:getoffmylawn:

They were eating my blackberries.  They my blackberries.
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Post by: lonestar on June 21, 2011, 11:13:22 PM
Shotguns, buddy, shotguns.  They never lock up the senile old guy.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2011, 05:44:29 AM
Pfft.  I was yelling at woodpeckers to stay away from my Mountain Ash tree.  Unfortunately it's a true story. :lol
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Post by: Durg on June 22, 2011, 05:53:46 AM
Keep it down assholes, the Tonight Show's on!!!

pffffft....  Lawarance Welk rules!!!!!

No WAY!  Hee Haw rules!!!  Barbara Mandrel and the Mandrel Sisters was a close second. 
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2011, 06:05:11 AM
Keep it down assholes, the Tonight Show's on!!!

pffffft....  Lawarance Welk rules!!!!!

No WAY!  Hee Haw rules!!!  Barbara Mandrel and the Mandrel Sisters was a close second. 

The hell with you old farts.  I'm watching, The New Zoo Revue!!  Then  Captain Bob paint a ship!!
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on June 22, 2011, 03:48:10 PM
Just stopping in to give shout-outs to:

Mama's Family
Leave it to Beaver
Golden Girls
All in the Family
Cheer's
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Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2011, 04:09:56 PM
Leave it to Beaver

The coffee cup episode was one of the funniest half hours of TV ever.

The hell with you old farts.  I'm watching, The New Zoo Revue!!  Then  Captain Bob paint a ship!!

Wow, New Zoo Revue, way to open up a door better left closed.

And remember the hippie stoner who used to paint landscapes, who needed weed when you had that cat to watch.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2011, 04:11:36 PM
If you watch some of the links on youtube lonestar, you'd think you were stoned as a kid to watch that. :lol
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Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2011, 04:33:57 PM
If you watch some of the links on youtube lonestar, you'd think you were stoned as a kid to watch that. :lol
Was that Captain Bob, or a different guy?  The one I'm thinking about had a white guy fro.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2011, 04:35:29 PM
If you watch some of the links on youtube lonestar, you'd think you were stoned as a kid to watch that. :lol
Was that Captain Bob, or a different guy?  The one I'm thinking about had a white guy fro.

Different guy his name was Bob Ross.
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Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
Yep, that guy was on a permanent diet of qualudes, turkey sandwiches, and milk.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2011, 04:40:16 PM
And groovy sponges that made trees.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2011, 04:44:12 PM
Just thinking about it is giving me the munchies. :lol
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Post by: El Barto on June 22, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
And groovy sponges that made trees.
Happy little trees!
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2011, 07:37:04 PM
Just stopping in to give shout-outs to:

Cheer's


Ahhh... the Normism's are endles.  My favorite 5 would have to be

What are ya up to Norm?  --> My ideal weight... if I were 11 feet tall
What do ya say Norm?   --> It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing milk bone underwear.
What's shakin Norm? --> All four cheeks and a couple of chins
How's life treating you Norm? --> Like a baby treats a diaper
What's up Normie? --> My nipples, it's freezing out there!
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2011, 08:19:06 PM
And groovy sponges that made trees.
Happy little trees!

Our whole family sat there mesmerized by his voice.
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Post by: chknptpie on June 23, 2011, 08:18:31 AM
*sneaks into old club*

I <3 Bob Ross

and wtf is this picture? hahaha
(https://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/54000/Bob-Ross-Drawing-in-the-Pool--54462.jpg)
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 23, 2011, 11:18:18 AM
Just stopping in to give shout-outs to:

Mama's Family
Leave it to Beaver
Golden Girls
All in the Family
Cheer's


How about .......

MASH
Happy Days
Sanford and Son
Rockford Files
Streets of San Francisco
Adam 12
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Post by: wkiml on June 23, 2011, 02:44:36 PM
And groovy sponges that made trees.
Happy little trees!

This tress is lonely  lets give him a friend
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on June 23, 2011, 05:37:01 PM
Just stopping in to give shout-outs to:

Mama's Family
Leave it to Beaver
Golden Girls
All in the Family
Cheer's


How about .......

MASH
Happy Days
Sanford and Son
Rockford Files
Streets of San Francisco
Adam 12
Don't forget this classic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTDOLoDiOcg&feature=related (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTDOLoDiOcg&feature=related)
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 23, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
lonestar, I'm not joking when I tell you I saw my first car, a  1973 Dodge Coronet crash every week on C.H.I.P.S. :lol
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Post by: lonestar on June 23, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
 :lol

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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 23, 2011, 10:02:34 PM
Oh dear.... not Ponch and Jon.....sigh    :omg: ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on June 23, 2011, 11:03:01 PM
Hated CHiPs, loved TJ Hooker.  It's amazing how much a hot, young Heather Locklear can improve a cheesy cop show. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: black_biff_stadler on June 24, 2011, 11:04:48 AM
Hated CHiPs, loved TJ Hooker.  It's amazing how much a hot, young Heather Locklear can improve a cheesy cop show. 

And at 49 she remains sizzling. I think she's headed for that rarified territory that, off the top of my head, I can only surely say includes Jane Seymour, Morgan Fairchild, Suzanne Somers, and possibly Susan Lucci(although a fair amount of makeup is probably used to "restore" all the other "antiques" I assume it'd be most necessary for Lucci as being passed over for daytime Emmy's has been proven to age humans 7.4 times quicker than anything else.) The rarified territory I'm referring to is women at, or approaching, 60 that remain considered attractive by most dudes who fall into either the 18-35 or 18-49 demographic.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on June 24, 2011, 11:23:05 AM
What's a trip is how standards change with time.  Did a google search for Stacy Sheridan, and in retrospect, the poofy 80's hair looks pretty damned silly.  At the time, I thought she was the hottest thing alive. 
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 24, 2011, 12:02:58 PM
What's a trip is how standards change with time.  Did a google search for Stacy Sheridan, and in retrospect, the poofy 80's hair looks pretty damned silly.  At the time, I thought she was the hottest thing alive. 

And every girl had the feathered look that I dated. 

BF.  Have you seen Suzanne Somers today.  Her body is still great but you could throw a brick at her face and it wouldn't move.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 24, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
Poofy 80's hair is still awesome to me.  I guess it depends on how it's done.

In other news, I don't know if you guys remember me saying that my job was being reviewed for a possible reclassification.  This started back in November.  Well, we finally got word today.  Me and the other budget analyst 1 have been promoted to budget analyst 2's, retroactive to November.  So fucking stoked!!!
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Post by: lonestar on June 24, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
Poofy 80's hair is still awesome to me.  I guess it depends on how it's done.

In other news, I don't know if you guys remember me saying that my job was being reviewed for a possible reclassification.  This started back in November.  Well, we finally got word today.  Me and the other budget analyst 1 have been promoted to budget analyst 2's, retroactive to November.  So fucking stoked!!!
Cha-ching!!!
Retro pay FTW!!!


@King- I still have feathered hair fantasies, with the girl wearing her tight ditto's jeans and the comb sticking out of the back pocket. Drool drool.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 25, 2011, 10:10:21 AM
Flipped on HBO last night and The Big Chill was playing.  I remember when it came out, it seemed hipper....LOL.  It's pretty cheesey now.... :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on July 14, 2011, 09:29:24 AM
Alright old people, I need information! How does one save money when renting a car? I need one for a week - flying to Fort Wayne (bf's family) spending 4 days there and then driving to the Cleveland area (my family) spending 4 days there. I know that I can save money by not going through the airport, but what other ways can I save some money?

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 14, 2011, 09:35:17 AM
If I remember to later today, Ill try to ask the concierge at my hotel how to get the cheapest deals. Shes very helpful, and I want to sleep with her anyways, so thanks for giving me a valid excuse to talk to her. :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: yorost on July 14, 2011, 09:35:52 AM
Alright old people, I need information! How does one save money when renting a car? I need one for a week - flying to Fort Wayne (bf's family) spending 4 days there and then driving to the Cleveland area (my family) spending 4 days there. I know that I can save money by not going through the airport, but what other ways can I save some money?
Rent at the airport if you're flying, you still have to find a way to get to the other place.  The easiest way to save money is not buy into their insurance.  If you already have auto insurance call them to see what kind of coverage you have for rental.  Basically, don't take any gimmick they offer you, like prepaying to a tank of gas and certain insurances.  Avoid free upgrades unless you know the gas mileages won't kill you, too.  Free upgrade to SUV is a bad thing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on July 14, 2011, 10:10:29 AM
If I remember to later today, Ill try to ask the concierge at my hotel how to get the cheapest deals. Shes very helpful, and I want to sleep with her anyways, so thanks for giving me a valid excuse to talk to her. :tup

... You're avatar really does add a lot to your posts now  :lol

Rent at the airport if you're flying, you still have to find a way to get to the other place.  The easiest way to save money is not buy into their insurance.  If you already have auto insurance call them to see what kind of coverage you have for rental.  Basically, don't take any gimmick they offer you, like prepaying to a tank of gas and certain insurances.  Avoid free upgrades unless you know the gas mileages won't kill you, too.  Free upgrade to SUV is a bad thing.

Since we are visiting family, I may have someone pick us up at the airport and drive us to a different location to pick up the rental car. It looks like that will seriously drop the price, but its still relatively high. Most likely due to pick up and drop off in two separate states?

I'm very certain that my current insurance will cover most things that might occur with the rental car, so I definitely wont be buying that. Also do not want an SUV, so not a problem there either!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 14, 2011, 10:17:14 AM
Looks like he has more answers than me.  Im still going to use this to talk to her though. :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 14, 2011, 10:23:43 AM
If there happens to be more than one airport in the vicinity (unlikely in Ft Wayne, I suppose), you can frequently get better deals by comparing the two.

Be sure to manage your pickup/drop-off times.  You'll get a better deal with the weekly rate, but an extra 3 hours on a Monday can absolutely kill you.  I've seen $250 for a week, plus an extra $80 for the eighth day because of the four hours. 

Spend a fair amount of time comparing rates for all of the possible rental agencies at different times of the day and even different days of the week.  There websites will make this easy.  Don't just put your first choice into Expedia and see what happens.

Most importantly,  scour the web for discount codes.  Plenty of people will post their corporate codes and plenty of the agencies offer web only discounts.  Rental Car Momma was always a good source of discounts.  I've gotten really good corporate discounts, despite not even knowing anything about the business I claimed to be with, but that's slightly risky.  Still, RCM will generally provide all kinds of valid promos,  and there are a ton of other sites that do the same thing.

Your insurance will cover most events, but also check with your credit card companies.  A good Citibank card will also provide some valuable coverage, for example. 

Just saw that you're doing a one way rental.  Those can really sting.  When you're searching every site, look for the itemized price breakdown and see what each one of them charges for the destination fee.  One might charge $400 while another charges nothing.  Just depends on where they have outlets.

Also, neighborhood shops aren't always the best deal.  A lot of the time they're actually more expensive, and you also run the risk of them not having the car you reserve.  They tend to be quite flaky about their inventory.

Research is the key.  Anytime I travel,  I spend weeks exploring flights, cars and hotels.  Checking daily for a week or two will give you a great idea of what the trends are and how their pricing works. 

Another important thing is having a little flexibility in your plans.  It's amazing how things might change by flying out one day earlier or later, same with the return.  I'll often base my plans on cheapest travel days and then fill them in accordingly. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: yorost on July 14, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
I'm very certain that my current insurance will cover most things that might occur with the rental car, so I definitely wont be buying that. Also do not want an SUV, so not a problem there either!
Ask about the gas mileages if they offer a free upgrade or a choice of cars, though.  They often give you a choice of some kind, just remember that's a place you can shave some money off by the right choice.

One other thing, some places, like Avis, rent their cars in 24 hour blocks.  A rental for 25 hours is the same as one for 48 hours, so if you're going just an hour or two over a complete day find a way to pick up the car a little later or return it a little earlier.  Dropping it off early and catching lunch or dinner with a friend near the airport has worked well for me in the past to save that money.

Most importantly,  scour the web for discount codes.  Plenty of people will post their corporate codes and plenty of the agencies offer web only discounts.  Rental Car Momma was always a good source of discounts.  I've gotten really good corporate discounts, despite not even knowing anything about the business I claimed to be with, but that's slightly risky.  Still, RCM will generally provide all kinds of valid promos,  and there are a ton of other sites that do the same thing.
This, too.  You might even have discounts without knowing it.  By simply having a frequent flyer account with Midwest, when they existed, I got discounts anywhere I rented, even places they didn't fly.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on July 14, 2011, 10:52:27 AM
Wow some really good info here! Thanks

I researched our flights for several weeks, when the prices dropped $150 I bought them. So the times are just about locked in (although Delta just sent anflight change yesterday  ::)).

I have looked at RCM and some how when I put a code in, it became more expensive. No idea how that works!

I'm trying to keep it 7 days and under, but it is technically an 8 day trip. Looking at budget because they seem to be the cheapest right now. If its 8 days - $400. If I do the next day pick up for 7 day rental - $332. Taxes and fees for 8 days $100, 7 days is $80.

I looked over my bank website and didn't see any thing that might list rental car discounts or coverage details.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 14, 2011, 10:58:36 AM
Be sure to try different combination of codes/agencies.  Don't know what they're sticking you with for the destination fee, but honestly it doesn't sound like you're getting too bad a deal.  $500 for an 8 day rental with out of state dropoff seems reasonable.  I'd still be looking to knock a couple hundred off of that, but if it weren't possible it wouldn't devastate me. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: ghostnotes on July 14, 2011, 11:01:13 AM
Normisms, Bob Ross, MASH...yep, I belong here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: chknptpie on July 14, 2011, 11:24:28 AM
Be sure to try different combination of codes/agencies.  Don't know what they're sticking you with for the destination fee, but honestly it doesn't sound like you're getting too bad a deal.  $500 for an 8 day rental with out of state dropoff seems reasonable.  I'd still be looking to knock a couple hundred off of that, but if it weren't possible it wouldn't devastate me. 

Yeah, it definitely could be worse. I had to rent cars while I was under 25 and that $27/day additional fee for being under the age was ridiculous! At least now I don't have to worry about that part. I need to ask my work if we get any corporate discounts, not sure how that works if I'm a contractor though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
C'mon old farts, them damn kids are taking over our boards!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 02:48:12 PM
You're speaking a little loud. Your hearing aid must be on the fritz.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on July 17, 2011, 02:51:01 PM
You're speaking a little loud. Your hearing aid must be on the fritz.

Son, You can call me father, you can call me King, you can call me Joe. You can call me a dirty son of a bitch. But if you ever call me Daddy, I'll finish this fight.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
Daddy.

Whatchya gonna do about it? Tell me to get off your lawn?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
Daddy.

Whatchya gonna do about it? Tell me to get off your lawn?

I'm with ya, 73109.  Let's get to committing some serious elder abuse. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
So...how often do all of you change your depends?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 02:54:21 PM
So...how often do all of you change your depends?

Only when they're able to remember that they are wearing said depends. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 02:55:49 PM
They probably start to remember when they're so clogged, piss and shit start coming out of their nostrils.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 02:58:30 PM
They probably start to remember when they're so clogged, piss and shit start coming out of their nostrils.

(the thought of lonestar behind a grill with piss and shit falling out of his nostrils is hilarious.  except for whomever is about to eat his food.)

I wonder how many of the oldies have spare tires/beer bellies compared to us lean and hip younger cats?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 02:59:06 PM
In America, it's about even. Kinda sad.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
It is.  It pains me to go into a fast food joint, because I inevitable see a fat person or multiple fat people disgustingly shoving a boigah (at least double-pattied and covered in mayo) haphazardly into their mouth.

Do they not give a fuck about how disgusting they look when doing that, or how many calories they're consuming from that boigah (+ car fuel tank's worth of non-diet soda and bucket o fries)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 03:03:56 PM
:lol I haven't had fast food in forever.

So...YOU OLD GUYS SUCK!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 03:16:55 PM
So...how often do all of you change your depends?
Depends, on when your mommas done with her meal.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 03:18:43 PM
A yo mama joke?

This isn't 1980. I know you wish it was. You did all your coke and had sex with marginally good looking women, but that time is long gone.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: TheSilentHam on July 17, 2011, 03:44:58 PM
A yo mama joke?

This isn't 1980. I know you wish it was. You did all your coke and had sex with marginally good looking women, but that time is long gone.

Yes, you're right...Yo mama was a marginally good looking woman (she didn't handle the coke all that well)....but that time is long gone.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
A yo mama joke?

This isn't 1980. I know you wish it was. You did all your coke and had sex with marginally good looking women, but that time is long gone.

Yes, you're right...Yo mama was a marginally good looking woman (she didn't handle the coke all that well)....but that time is long gone.

Why'd you guys do coke back then anyways?

I'd never imagine wanting to do that stuff.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on July 17, 2011, 03:50:23 PM
I take a nap dag nabit and this is what happens?! :lol

Also numbers, if you don't get the movie reference that I changed then your not allowed in here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
They're so cute when young.  I must remember not to smack 'em with a rolled up newspaper when they piddle on the carpet.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 17, 2011, 05:02:11 PM
All the half-assed disrespect in the world can't mask the fact that all of those little pricks would trade 20 years in a heartbeat to see 1/10th of the shit that we saw. 

Q:  Where was Cole during the Master of Puppets tour?

A:  Waiting for his parents to get passed second base. 

(https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo299/000jesus/burton.gif?t=1310942921)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 17, 2011, 05:08:59 PM
I admit wholeheartedly that I would kill to have been born around 1950-1970.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
Metallica with Cliff.

That's low dude.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 05:45:41 PM
Metallica with Cliff.

That's low dude.

Hmm, Master of Puppets, I seem to remember seeing them on the And Justice for All tour a year earlier, when they were an opening act for the Scorpions...


Day On The Green #1, Aug 31, 1985, Oakland Coliseum, Ca.
Scorpions, Ratt, Y&T, Metallica, Rising Force, Victory
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 05:46:48 PM
And Cole, this will really piss you off, I went for Ratt, was too busy putting the make on a girl to watch Metallica...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 17, 2011, 06:03:02 PM
Day On The Green #1, Aug 31, 1985, Oakland Coliseum, Ca.
Scorpions, Ratt, Y&T, Metallica, Rising Force, Victory

Our version was the Texxas Jam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texxas_Jam). 

1985 (August 24): Cotton Bowl in Dallas

    * Deep Purple (Perfect Strangers tour)
    * Scorpions
    * Night Ranger
    * Ted Nugent
    * Bon Jovi
    * Grim Reaper
    * Victory

One regular occurrence was the annual trash fight between the floor and the balcony.  Throughout the entire day,  people were throwing the paper cups, crumpled up with ice in them, back and forth  (stung like hell after a good sunburn).  Between sets, the sky would be gray because of all the cups in the air.  The other regular occurrence was the guys with a fire hose in front of the barricade hosing everybody down (August in Texas).   The end result of those two factors was that by the end of the day you were walking in a knee-high,  paper-mache mulch.

Truth be told,  the performances were rarely great.  You wanted to die because of the heat.  You were covered in nasty wax-paper mulch.  You were always on the lookout for those balcony assholes trying to bean you with trash.  Still,  wouldn't trade the experiences for the world. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 06:21:10 PM
Metallica with Cliff.

That's low dude.

Hmm, Master of Puppets, I seem to remember seeing them on the And Justice for All tour a year earlier, when they were an opening act for the Scorpions...

Um...do I need to tell you why this is impossible?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 17, 2011, 06:32:57 PM
I think he did a little too much LDS.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
I think he did a little too much LDS.

Or too much emth. Or perhaps a little excessive with the oeck.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 17, 2011, 06:38:25 PM
So, why are youngsters in our thread stirring up trouble?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
Because we know you old farts can't do shit about it.

Granted, you could ban me. That would definitely be doing something. I ask that you don't though. :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 17, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Because we know you old farts can't do shit about it.

Granted, you could ban me. That would definitely be doing something. I ask that you don't though. :P
Then don't give me cause to.  :biggrin:

In all seriousness, the thread is by and for the oldsters.  You guys coming in here and "making fun" is by definition off-topic.  There hasn't been any real trouble in here, but I am interested in there continuing to be no trouble.  So if you come in here, play nicely, don't make fun of us or hide our Metamucil.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
:lol

I'll remember that. From now on, whenever I come in, I'll bring you guys a nice big bottle of Cymbalta.

See ya fogeys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 07:13:33 PM
Metallica with Cliff.

That's low dude.

Hmm, Master of Puppets, I seem to remember seeing them on the And Justice for All tour a year earlier, when they were an opening act for the Scorpions...

Um...do I need to tell you why this is impossible?
It was Master, I checked Wiki.  My bad.  Write it off to old age. :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on July 17, 2011, 08:07:01 PM
Yea, I also saw some band named Metallica on the MOP tour backing up Ozzy on the Ultimate Sin tour Cole. :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 17, 2011, 09:05:45 PM
You know, I used to like you all. :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 17, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
You know, I used to like you all. :P
:73109:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2011, 08:41:14 AM

(https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo299/000jesus/burton.gif?t=1310942921)

Bart, is that one of your old pics? That's awesome.

I had tix to Providence on that tour, but they postponed the show. I was so upset because I had the opportunity to go to Worcester a few nights earlier. When Ozzy came back, Metallica was no longer on the tour.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 18, 2011, 08:58:50 AM
SNIP

Bart, is that one of your old pics? That's awesome.

I had tix to Providence on that tour, but they postponed the show. I was so upset because I had the opportunity to go to Worcester a few nights earlier. When Ozzy came back, Metallica was no longer on the tour.
Yeah, 4th row.  They didn't come to Dallas, so we had to ride a bus out to Fort Worth, as I recall. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2011, 09:03:41 AM
Worcester Centrum
March 17, 1989

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/JHKH1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 18, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
Ah...Metallica was my first concert.  Borrowed the rent's car and drove myself, my best friend, and two other friends to Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh.  I remember having fun, it being my first exposure to Mary Jane, contact high, and the guy on fire running across the stage.  The big debate on the way home was whether it was staged or not.  I remember myself and another guy saying they wouldn't mess around with that after James's accident, but then again no one on stage seemed to be bothered by a man on fire (I now know it is part of the show).  For a first concert, I really couldn't have asked for more.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 18, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
(https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo299/000jesus/hetfield.gif?t=1311011694)
Same show from '86.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 18, 2011, 12:26:07 PM
Yeah, I really don't like you guys.

Ah...Metallica was my first concert.  Borrowed the rent's car and drove myself, my best friend, and two other friends to Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh.  I remember having fun, it being my first exposure to Mary Jane, contact high, and the guy on fire running across the stage.  The big debate on the way home was whether it was staged or not.  I remember myself and another guy saying they wouldn't mess around with that after James's accident, but then again no one on stage seemed to be bothered by a man on fire (I now know it is part of the show).  For a first concert, I really couldn't have asked for more.

'97 I presume?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on July 18, 2011, 02:32:47 PM
Yeah, I really don't like you guys.

Nothing stopping you from posting your own Metallica pictures over at the children's thread.  Sure you got plenty from the St. Anger tour, right?   :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on July 18, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Yeah, I really don't like you guys.

Nothing stopping you from posting your own Metallica pictures over at the children's thread.  Sure you got plenty from the St. Anger tour, right?   :rollin

Slam motherfucking dunk!!!

:clap:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on July 18, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
El Barto :lol

Go to your room son and hang up your posters of Metallica where they all have short hair. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 18, 2011, 03:04:32 PM
Yeah, I really don't like you guys.

Ah...Metallica was my first concert.  Borrowed the rent's car and drove myself, my best friend, and two other friends to Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh.  I remember having fun, it being my first exposure to Mary Jane, contact high, and the guy on fire running across the stage.  The big debate on the way home was whether it was staged or not.  I remember myself and another guy saying they wouldn't mess around with that after James's accident, but then again no one on stage seemed to be bothered by a man on fire (I now know it is part of the show).  For a first concert, I really couldn't have asked for more.

'97 I presume?

Yup.  Senior year of high school.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: 73109 on July 18, 2011, 03:39:22 PM
Yeah, I really don't like you guys.

Nothing stopping you from posting your own Metallica pictures over at the children's thread.  Sure you got plenty from the St. Anger tour, right?   :rollin

Death Magnetic tour! Get it right. :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Ryzee on July 18, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
Hey my first concert was also Metallica!  It looks like I'm in DTVT's age group, so while I also missed out on seeing the Cliff era live I did get to catch them before James became a greaser or whatever.  I saw them summer of '94, my 14th birthday.  It was the Live Shit tour at the now gone Cal State Dominguez Hills Velodrome outside of L.A.  Fight opened and were awesome, so did Candlebox who sucked, and Suicidal Tendencies who were super awesome.  Alice in Chains was supposed to open too but I imagine Layne was starting to really get messed up from dope around that time so they were "sick."  It was before they cut their hair but the early signs of something fishy going on were there.  Me and my buddies were like "WTF?" because James had some kind of Billy Ray Cyrus major mullet going on and Kirk had like dreads or braids or something and shorts on.  Shit definitely wasn't right.  But they were awesome, opened with Breadfan and closed with So What if I recall correctly.  Rumor was that they were going to play a new song but I think it just ended up being God that Fails or something rare like that off of the Black album.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: carl320 on July 18, 2011, 08:48:43 PM
I wish I could've seen Metallica... could've seen them at Lollapalooza in '96 in Indy (along with Soundgarden).  I still have the ticket  :|

Someday I'll see them live  :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on July 18, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
I also saw them on the Monsters Of Rock Tour with Kingdom Come, Dokken, Scorpions and VH up in Maine.  I think it was 1988.
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Post by: wkiml on July 20, 2011, 11:37:51 AM
First Metallica concert i attended they opened for the Rods and Vandenburg (Circa 1982/83) just before Kill em All was released , they were throwing promotional copies of the album into the crowd
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Post by: lonestar on July 20, 2011, 11:59:56 AM
Unless there are other entrants, wkiml wins.
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Post by: TAC on July 20, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
I also saw them on the Monsters Of Rock Tour with Kingdom Come, Dokken, Scorpions and VH up in Maine.  I think it was 1988.
This pic was taken while Metallica was on stage at Giants Stadium during the Monsters Of Rock tour.
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MOR88.jpg)

Unless there are other entrants, wkiml wins.
:lol It was only a matter of time!
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Post by: El Barto on July 20, 2011, 12:57:55 PM
I also saw them on the Monsters Of Rock Tour with Kingdom Come, Dokken, Scorpions and VH up in Maine.  I think it was 1988.
This pic was taken while Metallica was on stage at Giants Stadium during the Monsters Of Rock tour.
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MOR88.jpg)
Doesn't look too crowded.  I also don't see any cups in the air.   :lol

Just noticed that there's a popular DVD of Aerosmith's performance at the inaugural Texxas Jam.  Should be worth checking out. 

(https://www.geetarz.org/reviews/misc/aerosmith-texas-jam-dvd-1.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on July 20, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
I've got the Aerosmith Texxas Jam VHS. Coincidentally, I just went on a huge Aerosmith binge on our last trip, so when I got home, I dug it out and put it on DVD. It only has a run time of 50 mins but it has some great classic footage.
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Post by: El Barto on September 22, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
I suspect a few of the fogies remember this.  Not too many things cracked me up as much as this did when I first saw it.

NSFW language, BTW:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlJvGvtOvY
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 23, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
First Metallica concert i attended they opened for the Rods and Vandenburg (Circa 1982/83) just before Kill em All was released , they were throwing promotional copies of the album into the crowd

Win.........  I didn't see them till Justice
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 23, 2011, 01:12:17 AM
So...what was everyone's first festival/Big concert??  Mine was 1982 Summer Blowout at Aloha Stadium, Hawaii

Heart
Blue Oyster Cult
Ronnie Montrose and Gamma
Fortune
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Post by: TAC on September 23, 2011, 05:38:28 AM
Def Leppard
Krokus
Gary Moore

June 25,
Cape Cod Coliseum
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on September 23, 2011, 05:53:58 AM
hmm....I had lots of Canada Day festivals, but metal wise my best was a 2 weekend  grouping for 60$ in 1992.

Split over two Saturday nights were.

Skid Row
Killer Dwarfs
Pantera

then:

Testament
Iron Maiden (fear of the dark tour)
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Post by: chknptpie on September 23, 2011, 08:21:55 AM
1998 - Yes with Alan Parsons Project
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on September 23, 2011, 08:34:06 AM
that sounds like a colassaly trippy show....not much better you can do there excpet maybe a Pink Floyd show.
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Post by: lonestar on September 23, 2011, 08:50:35 AM
First big show was Yes-9012live

First big festival was Day on the Green, in order...
Victory
Rising Force
Metallica
Ratt
Y&T
Scorpions
Also squeezed my first boobies that day. :hat
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Post by: Perpetual Change on September 23, 2011, 08:53:40 AM
This thread is great  :corn material. One page, you guys are talking about running over pedestrians. The next, you're talking about grudgefucking girls while listening to thrash metal.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 23, 2011, 09:02:47 AM
This thread is great  :corn material. One page, you guys are talking about running over pedestrians. The next, you're talking about grudgefucking girls while listening to thrash metal.

Hey... nothing like diversity  ;D
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Post by: lonestar on September 23, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
This thread is great  :corn material. One page, you guys are talking about running over pedestrians. The next, you're talking about grudgefucking girls while listening to thrash metal.

Hey... nothing like diversity  ;D
It's the spice of life.  :tup
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on September 23, 2011, 09:41:32 AM
First big show was Yes-9012live

First big festival was Day on the Green, in order...
Victory
Rising Force
Metallica
Ratt
Y&T
Scorpions
Also squeezed my first boobies that day. :hat

bosk will approve the fuck out of this line up.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on September 23, 2011, 09:53:56 AM
Day on the Green.  Nice.  The Metallica Cliff 'Em All home video has some footage from that show on it.  My first concert was July 11, 1990.  Kiss, with Slaughter and Danger Danger.

First festival wsa the 2010 M3:

The Scorpions
Cinderella
Vince Neil
Kix
Winger
L.A. Guns
Warrant
Nelson
Trixter
Jetboy
Dizzy Reed (of G&R)
Bang Tango
Z02
Black Mambooza
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Post by: El Barto on September 23, 2011, 10:18:27 AM
First show was AC/DC with the mighty Fastway opening.  '83, me thinks.  First festival was one of the Texxas Jams. 
    * Van Halen
    * Dio
    * Loverboy
    * Krokus
    * Keel
    * Bachman–Turner Overdrive
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Post by: Ryzee on September 23, 2011, 10:31:28 AM
I think I mentioned it already in this thread, but mine was Metallica in July '94 at the Velodrome at Cal State Dominguez Hills in L.A., which is where the Home Depot Center now stands.  Lineup was:

Fight (I wasn't really familiar with Priest at the time beyond Breakin the Law.  I thought Halford looked like Sloth from The Goonies with sunglasses on)
Candlebox
Suicidal Tendencies
Metallica

It was for my 14th birthday, and even though James had a Billy Ray Cyrus mullet and Kirk had like braids or dreadlocks with shorts on, it was fuckin awesome.  :metal

Edit:  Yup, I already posted almost the exact same thing a few posts up.  I'm not very creative.  :lol
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Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2011, 11:33:03 AM
Styx, The Grand Illusion, 1977.  Hell of a show.  Styx were just on the verge of hitting it big, and actually hit it with this tour, but I got to see them in a small venue with great seats.
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Post by: lonestar on September 23, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
Styx, The Grand Illusion, 1977.  Hell of a show.  Styx were just on the verge of hitting it big, and actually hit it with this tour, but I got to see them in a small venue with great seats.
Color me jealous.
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Post by: wkiml on September 23, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
First Concert

TREX  1972 maybe??

Only festival type show I have ever attended was the first Gigantour
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Post by: Tick on September 23, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
I suspect a few of the fogies remember this.  Not too many things cracked me up as much as this did when I first saw it.

NSFW language, BTW:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlJvGvtOvY
I love this movie! I stuck in to the Drive in theater like 10 times when this movie came out!
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2011, 12:22:29 PM
Only true festival I recall was seeing Spinal Tap at Molson Park in Barrie - Canada Day, hhmmmm...  1991 maybe '92.  Spinal Tap played 3 cities across Canada that day ... St. John's Newfoundland, then Barrie, then Vancouver.  Bunch of good Canadian bands .. 54-40, the Hip, Sass Jordan, Slik Toxic.  Ahh... good times.
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Post by: El Barto on September 23, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
I suspect a few of the fogies remember this.  Not too many things cracked me up as much as this did when I first saw it.

NSFW language, BTW:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlJvGvtOvY
I love this movie! I stuck in to the Drive in theater like 10 times when this movie came out!
The last 30 minutes really sucked, but the first 60 were fantastic.  And I loved Lenny and Squiggy as the pirates.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 23, 2011, 01:08:40 PM
First Concert

TREX  1972 maybe??


Wow..... wouldn't have guessed that one..... :lol

Marc Bolan  :tup
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2011, 03:45:37 PM
First concert.  Kiss 1979 Dynasty tour Springfield Mass. (My dad took me, I was 11 :lol)

First festival show.  Manning Bowl, Lynn Mass.  1985

Motley Crue
Helix
Y & T
Accept
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Post by: El Barto on September 23, 2011, 03:52:22 PM
First festival show.  Manning Bowl, Lynn Mass.  1985

Motley Crue
Helix
Y & T
Accept
I saw the non-Crue version of that down here.  Good show.  Actually saw Y&T countless times; always a good act.  And I recall thinking that Accept sounded like they were actually using all of those Marshall cabs--loud as hell.   
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2011, 03:59:16 PM
Oh yeah.  Udo screamed throughout the whole set but as a 17 year old I was loving it.  I still remember Tommy Lee's drum set going 90 degrees forward and he was still playing the solo.  at the time no one was doing that and it was unreal.
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Post by: Tick on September 23, 2011, 04:46:35 PM
My first concert was Kiss at the New Haven Coliseum in Jan. 1978. It was the Love Gun tour. I was 13 and it was a magical night.
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Post by: El Barto on September 23, 2011, 04:48:50 PM
Oh yeah.  Udo screamed throughout the whole set but as a 17 year old I was loving it.  I still remember Tommy Lee's drum set going 90 degrees forward and he was still playing the solo.  at the time no one was doing that and it was unreal.
So that was the Shout at the Devil tour?  Saw them open for Ozzy on that (front row), but not the headliner.  Saw them with Y&T at least once, and assumed it was the same tour.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 23, 2011, 04:52:20 PM
My First REAL rock concert was '81, April Wine in Hawaii.  My parents would not allow me to go to concerts, so my first one was at 17  :censored
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
Oh yeah.  Udo screamed throughout the whole set but as a 17 year old I was loving it.  I still remember Tommy Lee's drum set going 90 degrees forward and he was still playing the solo.  at the time no one was doing that and it was unreal.
So that was the Shout at the Devil tour?  Saw them open for Ozzy on that (front row), but not the headliner.  Saw them with Y&T at least once, and assumed it was the same tour.

No, it was the Theater Of Pain tour.
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Post by: El Barto on September 23, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
Oh yeah.  Udo screamed throughout the whole set but as a 17 year old I was loving it.  I still remember Tommy Lee's drum set going 90 degrees forward and he was still playing the solo.  at the time no one was doing that and it was unreal.
So that was the Shout at the Devil tour?  Saw them open for Ozzy on that (front row), but not the headliner.  Saw them with Y&T at least once, and assumed it was the same tour.

No, it was the Theater Of Pain tour.
Guess I'm getting my drum riser silliness confused.

Speaking of which, I discovered that Buddy Rich was doing that sort of thing long before Tommy Lee popularized it. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnkkhYM4Whg
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Post by: TAC on September 23, 2011, 05:33:19 PM
Wow, great link Bart!

I also remember the Ozzy/Motley Crue/Waysted tour. It was just months before I was allowed to go to my first show. Love Waysted!
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
Damn.  I never knew Buddy did that El Barto.  Great link!

TAC, that was the infamous tour where Ozzy pissed on the Alamo wasn't it?
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Post by: El Barto on September 23, 2011, 09:14:52 PM
Wow, great link Bart!

I also remember the Ozzy/Motley Crue/Waysted tour. It was just months before I was allowed to go to my first show. Love Waysted!
Funny thing.  The first 3 or so concerts I went to all had opening bands (1st of 3) no-show.  Waysted was scheduled but didn't make it for the Dallas Ozzy show.


TAC, that was the infamous tour where Ozzy pissed on the Alamo wasn't it?
I was going to say that was the next tour, but it was actually the one prior.  The Alamo incident was '82.  Ozzy/Crue was 2/16/04 (for some reason, one of only two concert dates I remember  ???).
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 19, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
My prostatitis has flared up again.

I am UNCOMFORTABLE.

BIG TIME
FUCK.

doc appt. monday.
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2011, 12:18:36 PM
My prostatitis has flared up again.

I hate when that happens. I go through it once a year at least. Fu#ks with my whole system down there...
I tell my wife it's like a golf ball in my ass.
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Post by: Tick on October 19, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
My prostatitis has flared up again.

I hate when that happens. I go through it once a year at least. Fu#ks with my whole system down there...
I tell my wife it's like a golf ball in my ass.
FOUR!!!


Sorry. :biggrin:
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Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2011, 12:21:35 PM
So my little girl turned 18 today.  God do I feel fucking old.  I am proud of the amazing young woman she has become though.  She works very hard for what she wants, and has a good, loving heart.  I hold much hope for her future. :heart
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Post by: yeshaberto on October 19, 2011, 12:37:07 PM
that is great to hear lonestar...
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2011, 12:37:39 PM
So my little girl turned 18 today.  God do I feel fucking old.  I am proud of the amazing young woman she has become though.  She works very hard for what she wants, and has a good, loving heart.  I hold much hope for her future. :heart

You can't ask for anything better.  Tell her DTF says Happy Birthday!!
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 19, 2011, 12:38:26 PM
My prostatitis has flared up again.

I hate when that happens. I go through it once a year at least. Fu#ks with my whole system down there...
I tell my wife it's like a golf ball in my ass.

I have to pee every ten minutes.
And ya..other issues.
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
So my little girl turned 18 today.  God do I feel fucking old.  I am proud of the amazing young woman she has become though.  She works very hard for what she wants, and has a good, loving heart.  I hold much hope for her future. :heart
Nice job! Congrats, man!
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Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
Thanks guys.  I'm very proud of her.
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Post by: bout to crash on October 20, 2011, 12:08:01 AM
 :D
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2011, 06:05:33 AM
So my little girl turned 18 today.  God do I feel fucking old.  I am proud of the amazing young woman she has become though.  She works very hard for what she wants, and has a good, loving heart.  I hold much hope for her future. :heart

Nice job Ron.  This is all any of us can ask for as parents.  Hope in 7 years when my kids become adults, I'm feeling the same way.
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Post by: El Barto on October 20, 2011, 08:23:55 AM
Damn,  I remember my 18th b-day quite well.  Here's hoping your daughter's went completely differently. 
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Post by: lonestar on October 20, 2011, 09:16:25 AM
Damn,  I remember my 18th b-day quite well.  Here's hoping your daughter's went completely differently.
:rollin
Same here. I talked to her, she had clean girlie fun.
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Post by: Zydar on December 29, 2011, 03:16:35 PM
A new fogey here, reporting in! (https://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/images/smilies/Salute.gif)
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 29, 2011, 03:48:10 PM
A new fogey here, reporting in! (https://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/images/smilies/Salute.gif)

Welcome to the club.  Now get your own meds!!!
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Post by: lonestar on December 29, 2011, 04:02:57 PM
A new fogey here, reporting in! (https://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/images/smilies/Salute.gif)

Welcome, I'd show you the secret handshake but I've forgotten it.  Now, tell us one part of your body that aches in an annoying fashion.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 29, 2011, 04:13:08 PM
A new fogey here, reporting in! (https://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/images/smilies/Salute.gif)

Welcome, I'd show you the secret handshake but I've forgotten it.  Now, tell us one part of your body that aches in an annoying fashion.

 :rollin
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Post by: obscure on December 29, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
lol..... well hello!
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Post by: Jamesman42 on December 29, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
still 4.5 yrs away smfd :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 29, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
lol..... well hello!
Are you allowed to be in here?  Where's your fogey card?

Zydar, now that your a card carrying member, you'll be using this emot with the yung'ins around here more often.

:getoffmylawn:
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Post by: lonestar on December 29, 2011, 10:45:04 PM
lol..... well hello!


Yeah, we're gonna need an official age to let you into this thread.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on December 29, 2011, 10:59:38 PM
Who gives a shit RJ? She's jailbait to us fogies lol.
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Post by: lonestar on December 30, 2011, 12:30:33 AM
Who gives a shit RJ? She's jailbait to us fogies lol.

True that brother.
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Post by: Zydar on December 30, 2011, 01:04:43 AM
;D
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Post by: DebraKadabra on December 30, 2011, 01:38:05 AM
*never mind*
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Post by: obscure on December 30, 2011, 02:26:30 AM
Who gives a shit RJ? She's jailbait to us fogies lol.

Nice ... It's been letting me in grown-arse networks for so many years :lol  :heart

I'll look after y'all... Tell me where it hurts  ;) 
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2011, 06:09:02 AM
No pains, but I swear I saw Lonestar with a misteltoe belt buckle.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 30, 2011, 06:30:30 AM
Wonky prostate reporting in. I'm good right now(knock onmy wood)
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Post by: lonestar on December 30, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
No pains, but I swear I saw Lonestar with a misteltoe belt buckle.


Not that I need it. ;)
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Post by: El Barto on December 30, 2011, 10:50:09 AM
Is it just me,  or does a recently-turned 30 year old seem more kid than fogie?  Christ,  I don't even remember turning 30.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on December 30, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
Barto your avatar is freaking me out. :lol You moved the pupils on him, didn't you
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Post by: El Barto on December 30, 2011, 11:08:46 AM
Barto your avatar is freaking me out. :lol You moved the pupils on him, didn't you
Holy shit.  Eighteen hours is all it took.  I was hoping for another 2 months of people feeling confused and disoriented.   :rollin
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Post by: Ryzee on December 30, 2011, 11:09:45 AM
Is it just me,  or does a recently-turned 30 year old seem more kid than fogie?  Christ,  I don't even remember turning 30.

I'm 31 and I certainly don't consider myself a fogey.  I don't consider myself a kid though either.  I just consider myself awesome.  Seems like ages 30-50 is where it's at.  Anyone under 30 seems like a whiny little bitch kid who thinks they know everything but really they don't know shit, and anyone over 50 seems like a whiny old person who used to know shit but forgot it all and now just bitch about nonsense.  Sorry to any I offended with this post.  ;D
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Post by: EPICVIEW on December 30, 2011, 11:14:50 AM
47...and I gotta tell yea.. Im so blessed to be born with arrested development and Iggy Pops metabolism.., as I feel about 29 if not better and my brain is about the same... Im going to start counting backwards at 50..

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Post by: TheSilentHam on December 30, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
as I feel about 29 if not better and my brain is about the same... Im going to start counting backwards at 50..

You are Benjamin Button, aren't you?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 30, 2011, 11:56:39 AM
as I feel about 29 if not better and my brain is about the same... Im going to start counting backwards at 50..

You are Benjamin Button, aren't you?

its not out of the question... I always chide friends that get down about their birthday when it comes, I always say " hey...it beat the alternative, be happy.. rejoyce..enjoy the birthday"...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2011, 12:26:12 PM
Is it just me,  or does a recently-turned 30 year old seem more kid than fogie?  Christ,  I don't even remember turning 30.

Yeah, 30 is just a mini-fogey.  Although, in DTF land, it's a true fogey to most.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on December 30, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
 :lol so damn true.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on December 30, 2011, 12:28:39 PM
I think I'd be alright with skipping being a 20-something and being a fogey.

20-somethings are the only thing that I find more scary than children. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on December 30, 2011, 12:30:03 PM
noted..... to be unearthed 10-20 years later.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 30, 2011, 12:30:36 PM
Barto your avatar is freaking me out. :lol You moved the pupils on him, didn't you
Holy shit.  Eighteen hours is all it took.  I was hoping for another 2 months of people feeling confused and disoriented.   :rollin

It's fucking creepy and yet hilarious at the same time. :lol I'm weird like that in that I find things wrong in usual spots...pattern recognition I guess?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 30, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
I think I'd be alright with skipping being a 20-something and being a fogey.

20-somethings are the only thing that I find more scary than children. 

being a 20-something is just crazy...so much goes on. All in all it is fun though and worth it. You get to set the course for the rest of your life!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on December 30, 2011, 12:32:34 PM
A question I ask about 20-something people:

Why do they seem so angry?

Just something that I notice/perceive. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on December 30, 2011, 12:32:41 PM
Wow, I never would have realized that  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 30, 2011, 12:35:01 PM
A question I ask about 20-something people:

Why do they seem so angry?

Just something that I notice/perceive. 

Because they are probably *FINALLY!* away from their parents who have kept them on their leash their whole life and now can voice their opinions and whatnot, figuring out how the world works and either hating it or manipulating it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: MasterShakezula on December 30, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
I'm guessing the angry ones are the ones who aren't manipulating?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2011, 12:39:16 PM
being a 20-something is just crazy...so much goes on. All in all it is fun though and worth it. You get to set the course for the rest of your life!

God help those where you end up.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 30, 2011, 12:40:19 PM
Haha, IRL I am very mature and professional and I am aiming to get a doctorate. Just let me be silly and stupid while I am young
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Haha, IRL I am very mature and professional and I am aiming to get a doctorate.

Well suck me sideways.  Maybe you really are schizo!  That's a helluva lot more education than I have.

Just let me be silly and stupid while I am young

You excel at that around here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 30, 2011, 12:55:02 PM
Thanks! :) :)

I want to at least get my Master's degree in mathematics before I turn 30. I just like having a sense of humor and being sarcastic/silly on the internet. I can be like this IRL around some friends as well.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2011, 02:11:42 PM
Because the 20 somethings are know it alls and don't like being told what to do.  then when you hit your 30's and on, you realize you parents were telling you the truth and you come full circle.  Old fart....Out!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 30, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
noted..... to be unearthed 10-20 years later.

Hmmm.....UNEARTH
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: DebraKadabra on December 30, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Seems like ages 30-50 is where it's at.  Anyone under 30 seems like a whiny little bitch kid who thinks they know everything but really they don't know shit, and anyone over 50 seems like a whiny old person who used to know shit but forgot it all and now just bitch about nonsense.

 :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on December 31, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
Agreed. In my 20's I thought I knew it all. Car payments, mortgage I'm living life. Then my son was born and I realized I didnt know anything about anything.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on December 31, 2011, 09:18:50 AM
In my twenty's, I just thought I was fucking up my life.  It took my thirties to see how thorough of a job I could actually do at it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on December 31, 2011, 09:39:24 AM
I dropped out of college twice in the 80's and joined a band.  We did a lot of stuff and saw a lot of stuff that most people do not get to see and do, but I never once thought it was a waste of time.  We were living the dream.  It was only when the band self-destructed that I got my shit together and went back to school.  By my 30's, I was something like a respectable guy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 27, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
tralalal lalala
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
First to welcome Hyperplex.

Enjoying your watch?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 27, 2012, 01:31:24 PM
Not 30 'til Friday, but I will be enjoying it then. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on March 27, 2012, 02:18:26 PM
I'm amazed you found this thread with your age and all.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 27, 2012, 02:21:23 PM
I followed the mothball smell.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 27, 2012, 02:44:39 PM
tralalal lalala
I'm gonna need to see some I.D. young lady. :police:


Pledge, we'll show you the handshake and give you the book of wisdom Friday, always good to welcome new members.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 27, 2012, 03:13:12 PM
Hyperpledge?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
I think he wants you to dust something.  Swiftly. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 27, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
Hyperpledge?
Kind of a fitting autocorrect by my phone actually. :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on March 27, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
Some groups make you do stupid stuff to get in.  Us old fogies just have the newbs dust because we can't remember.  Thanks to lonestar for reminding us. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 27, 2012, 10:54:27 PM
hi my fogey boys... anyone need a massage???




























I know a HUGE guy who is fantastic at it! :p


oh and welcome Hyperage  :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 27, 2012, 10:57:39 PM
:caffeine:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 01:59:34 AM
 :lol I wasn't expecting that  :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 02:02:42 AM
Eh, just being stupid.
How's your day babe?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 02:11:44 AM
Not bad... I'm teaching strategic planning to the newbies these two days.... my students love me  :laugh:
another sign that I belong to this club lol....

how is yours hun.. at home today, right?

dzztstt dstt error... I mean tomorrow  :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 02:13:45 AM
Yep, just wasting away the night.  I thought I'd get tired soon, but it ain't happening.  Listened to some inspirational speaker tapes, all fired up with love and openness now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 02:32:15 AM
Tony Robbins? Susan Jeffers?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 02:34:26 AM
No, check your PMs.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 02:36:23 AM
you dirty sly fogey you :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 02:39:15 AM
You haven't even scratched the surface of my sneakiness.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 02:41:52 AM
ooohhh.. here's ma boy!  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 02:43:28 AM
 :lol

You silly little girl.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 02:48:15 AM
 ;D  :-*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 02:58:00 AM
See, we don't need your roulette to keep up conversation. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 03:21:37 AM
I was thinking the same thing! YAY... God bless the fogies!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 03:23:44 AM
Well, I know your just rolling in your work day, but it's 2:30am here, and I need to crash.  Talk to you later dear. :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 03:25:05 AM
bye darlin'  :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Cecilia on March 28, 2012, 05:13:28 AM
I need advice, just not love.

My boyfriend asked me to move into his house. I said yes, but when I told my parents, they asked us to sit down and talk to them.

Basically my parents want us to get married, but we want to live together first. They are okay with this, but have told us that if I move and it doesn't work out, I can't move home. This is it.

It all comes down to how much faith I have in my relationship. I am crazy about him and he feels the same about me. I know I want to move. I guess I just figured out my answer haha.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 28, 2012, 05:45:56 AM
I need advice, just not love.

My boyfriend asked me to move into his house. I said yes, but when I told my parents, they asked us to sit down and talk to them.

Basically my parents want us to get married, but we want to live together first. They are okay with this, but have told us that if I move and it doesn't work out, I can't move home. This is it.

It all comes down to how much faith I have in my relationship. I am crazy about him and he feels the same about me. I know I want to move. I guess I just figured out my answer haha.
As long as you feel you can make it on your own if your relationship goes south you should do what you want to do. Its a big step and I wish you well. I hope its everything you want it to be. The one thing that will change is the fact you will know every nuance of the person you move in with over time, good and bad. Don't sweat little things and you will have more peace. Its an exciting time C. All the best to ya!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 05:56:08 AM
yeah.. I avoid writing about these topics... as they are really delicate... but I wish you well hun...  ;)

Hey Tick! how nice to see ya!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Cecilia on March 28, 2012, 06:03:25 AM
You 30+ year olds know it all!  :biggrin:

Thanks guys!
I spend at least one night a week out there, so I have a taste.

I got into the community college over there. Just need to find a job and I'll be okay.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 06:20:57 AM
have a taste hun.. have a taste  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 28, 2012, 06:33:05 AM
You 30+ year olds know it all!  :biggrin:

Thanks guys!
I spend at least one night a week out there, so I have a taste.

I got into the community college over there. Just need to find a job and I'll be okay.
and at 40+ we know even more! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 28, 2012, 06:34:31 AM


Hey Tick! how nice to see ya!
Nice to see you too, Nem. :heart  Love your website! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 28, 2012, 07:23:26 AM
First week as GM is going fairly well. I'm a lot more comfortable in an executive role than I expected to be.

*dusts the countertop* Done. Now we wait for my clock to tick over to fogeyness.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 28, 2012, 07:37:52 AM
First week as GM is going fairly well. I'm a lot more comfortable in an executive role than I expected to be.

*dusts the countertop* Done. Now we wait for my clock to tick over to fogeyness.
Nice job diaper dandy! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 28, 2012, 08:04:48 AM


Hey Tick! how nice to see ya!
Nice to see you too, Nem. :heart  Love your website! :metal

YAY! Thanks Tick!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2012, 08:13:10 AM
First week as GM is going fairly well. I'm a lot more comfortable in an executive role than I expected to be.

*dusts the countertop* Done. Now we wait for my clock to tick over to fogeyness.

Fogey's, I think we need to come up with an official hazing ritual.  More will join our ranks in the coming years, and they need to prove they're ready.

Perhaps comprehensive review of Bat Out Of Hell?  Or a marathon of 80s "metal"?

*will put more thought into requirements*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on March 28, 2012, 09:10:28 AM
I need advice, just not love.

My boyfriend asked me to move into his house. I said yes, but when I told my parents, they asked us to sit down and talk to them.

Basically my parents want us to get married, but we want to live together first. They are okay with this, but have told us that if I move and it doesn't work out, I can't move home. This is it.

It all comes down to how much faith I have in my relationship. I am crazy about him and he feels the same about me. I know I want to move. I guess I just figured out my answer haha.
They're bluffing.  They want you to think that it's all or nothing, which is the right move for all parties involved.  You should be thinking that.  In the end, however, if you wound up out on your ass they'd happily let you back. 

Home is the place where, when you have to go there, they have to take you in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Bart's got a point.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 28, 2012, 11:39:08 AM
But they (the parents) also have a point.  Sure, parents love their kids, but there's no question that one goal is to finally get them out on their own.  This is a huge milestone, possibly the biggest of all.  Forget what age you can drive a car, or vote, or drink; when you move out of the house, you are an adult, an independent being.  You are taking care of yourself at that point.  Parents aren't just looking forward to the reduced financial obligations and having a bit more free time and space around the house, it signifies that they've finally done it, they've successfully launched their offspring.  To reach and pass that milestone, only to get a phonecall later saying "I need to move back home, it didn't work out" would completely suck.

So yeah, maybe they're bluffing, but what they're really doing is trying to get you to understand that this is not something to be taken lightly.  This is not just another thing you can try out, and if it doesn't work, hey no biggie.  It is a huge step forward, and you do not want to take such a step and then step back.  It completely diminishes the accomplishment, can and should be regarded as a failure, and makes it easier to do next time.  I moved out when I was 18.  When that particularly housing arrangement fell apart, I had no intention of moving back home; I found some other roommates and we found another place.  Then later another.  There were days I woke up hungry and went to bed hungry, even though I still had keys to a house with a well-stocked pantry and refrigerator just across town.  I was out, and I was doing it myself.

Life is about moving forward.  Yeah, there are setbacks, and I'm sure your parents will help you in some way if things get bad, but make sure you have it clear in your head how this is going to play out, and what you'll do if things don't work out the way you think.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Very true, but in the end, the door at home is always open, especially in the worst of times.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 28, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
Well, it should be anyway.  I've known guys who swore that they honestly did not have the choice of going back home, and I didn't really question it.  My own situation was self-imposed, but yeah, if things got really bad, I'm sure they would've taken me back in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on March 28, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Preaching to the choir. 
They're bluffing.  They want you to think that it's all or nothing, which is the right move for all parties involved.  You should be thinking that.  In the end, however, if you wound up out on your ass they'd happily let you back. 

Home is the place where, when you have to go there, they have to take you in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 28, 2012, 12:45:59 PM
Very true, but in the end, the door at home is always open, especially in the worst of times.
Not always. Not everything is as simple as Black and White. Trust me, I grew up in the up most of dysfunctional homes. Not only have I experienced the door closed, but I've had my head  put through it as well.
Sad but true.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
I meant in general of course.  There are many homes where that isn't an option I realize.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 28, 2012, 01:04:04 PM
Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at.  It should always be an option, but isn't always.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on March 28, 2012, 03:38:22 PM
Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at.  It should always be an option, but isn't always.
Unfortunately.
The only way I suppress the scars from my youth is to take great joy in knowing my daughter has the childhood experience I wish I had. Its a good feeling to be able to provide a stable environment. Not perfect mind you, but that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 03:44:34 PM
It shows great character on your part to be able to break the hereditary cycle of abuse and be a loving father to your kid.
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Post by: obscure on March 29, 2012, 04:32:12 AM
absolutely!

:hug: Tick
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 29, 2012, 07:23:15 AM
It isn't anywhere near the same as breaking a cycle of abuse, but my father was/is a very odd individual, somewhat sociopathic in a way and neurotic on multiple levels. To my family, he was a wonderful provider and never hurt us physically, but psychologically he was and still is a source of strife, turmoil and verbal abuse. Speaking from my own experience, he wasn't a father figure to me unless it was convenient to himself. He would only keep me company and do things with me if it was something he wanted to do or had to do. For example, he wouldn't take me out anywhere unless it was the auto part store so he could buy something for his car. He never showed enthusiasm for things I did or received and was the first one to instill insecurity or embarrassment in me as a child. I also learned how NOT to treat my wife from witnessing how he treated my mother. It was an even worse experience for my older sister.

This type of realization didn't come to me until I became a father. I remember the first time I had to work late after Eric was born; he was still awake when I got home, and I walked into his room and he looked up at me and his entire body relaxed and he smiled, reaching up for me to hold him. At that moment, I realized he felt something I NEVER had; comfort and serenity at Dad's presence. My entire life, when my father got home or came upstairs, there was tension and almost fear that he would be angry or upset or just in a mood. Since that moment of realization, I've actually had a very difficult time digesting the nature of my relationship with my father, but it has also fueled me to be as good a father as I can be for Eric. I want Eric to feel comfortable and welcome around me as long as I live.

..../word vomit
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on March 29, 2012, 11:46:02 AM
Man when I hear what a lot of you went through I count my blessing how great my parrents were.  Very lucky.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on March 29, 2012, 11:56:48 AM
That was painful to read Hyper... feel your pain :(
but Thank God there's an upside to it... it helped you be the great father you are now....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 29, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
I should add that my father was countered by my mom, with whom I am still extremely close. She is a very caring, compassionate person who wears her heart on her sleeve and is the first person to go out of her way to help anyone she cares about. She and I have always shared a great deal together and I think I've learned a lot of my parenting instincts from her. She was my source of comfort and security growing up, so I guess that makes me a Momma's Boy, but I am proud of that.

She left my father right after I married my wife, after 36 years of marriage. I don't know how she lasted that long, but I am glad she got out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Orbert on March 29, 2012, 01:02:55 PM
Both of my parents were examples of how to do things right, and how not to do things.  They countered each other quite well, actually.  My mom was literally the clichéd screaming old Chinese lady, pure psycho if she got mad enough, but she could be very loving and mushy and supportive.  My dad wasn't home a lot when I was growing up.  He travelled a lot for business, but this was the 70's.  He brought home the bacon; mom raised the kids.  When dad was home, he was never super warm and friendly, but his smile was genuine and his hugs were crushing.  There was never any doubt that he loved us, and it wasn't really his fault that he couldn't be there all the time.  The other side of that was that I never saw him lose his temper.  He was always calm and rational, as he had to be, especially if my mom was going crazy about something.  If he raised his voice, it was just "Hey!" to get our attention, then he would continue maybe at a somewhat elevated volume, but it wasn't like he was screaming and yelling at us.  He kept his composure.

So I try to draw from the best of both of them, and avoid the downsides, knowing that I'm half and half of each of them.  Sometimes I'll do something really stupid and think "Shit, that's just what my mom would've done" and sometimes I'll do something (IMO) pretty cool, and think that that's how my dad would've handled it.  Or vice versa.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 29, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
Yeah I see elements of both of them in me, though thankfully I think I have more of my mom's disposition than my father's. There are definitely times when I look back in hindsight and realize how a piece of my father emerged in my actions and it disturbs me greatly, though I've been reassured several times that I am a very, VERY different person from my father, which is encouraging.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on March 30, 2012, 07:48:14 AM
Now I'm in the club. *grabs his cane and starts shaking it threateningly at all the whippersnappers*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on March 30, 2012, 07:49:45 AM
Well shit man, welcome.  Looks like someone needs a birthday thread....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 06, 2012, 05:34:30 PM
So I am realizing two events this weekend that are making me feel older than dirt. First, my daughter has only four weeks left of high school.  Second, I recieved an invitation to my 25th high school reunion.  Fuck am I old. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on May 06, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
We are all just as old as we are supposed to be. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 06, 2012, 06:47:50 PM
Thank you Zen Master Plex.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on May 06, 2012, 06:59:21 PM
Hey, it's the way I think of it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on May 06, 2012, 07:18:32 PM
So I am realizing two events this weekend that are making me feel older than dirt. First, my daughter has only four weeks left of high school.  Second, I recieved an invitation to my 25th high school reunion.  Fuck am I old. :tick:

One nephew just had a baby girl a few months ago.  Time sure does fly.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 07, 2012, 12:47:49 AM
Hey, it's the way I think of it.

Just wait till your little one is in cap and gown. Damn they grow so fast.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 07, 2012, 04:33:13 AM
Feeling especially old today, fellow fogeys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: wkiml on May 07, 2012, 05:18:03 AM
i'm with Lonestar on this one as well,  my oldest graduates high school next month and my graduating high school class is celebrating the 30 year reunion .

I hear crackle,snap and pop every morning and it isn't the cereal in my bowl either
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on May 07, 2012, 05:54:47 AM
This thread makes me feel so young  :rollin :rollin :rollin











*runs*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2012, 06:06:08 AM
Feeling especially old today, fellow fogeys.

Why's that?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on May 07, 2012, 06:06:55 AM
This thread makes me feel so young  :rollin :rollin :rollin











*runs*
YEAH, YOU BETTER RUN!!!! >:(





on second thought, just walk, I'll never catch you, I'm old. :tick2:





 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on May 07, 2012, 06:17:57 AM
bahahah  :lol


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on May 07, 2012, 07:18:23 AM
waiting for RJ to come and get mad at me



:seizure:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Zydar on May 07, 2012, 07:20:50 AM
Oh hi fellow fogies. Any grey hairs lately?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on May 07, 2012, 07:39:55 AM
shhh. now he's gonna tell us where.... one the biggest signs of becoming an old-fart  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2012, 07:55:58 AM
Oh hi fellow fogies. Any grey hairs lately?

Only under my sac.  I manscape everywhere else (it's hard to reach all the way under.

You should've heeded the wise obscure's advice.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Zydar on May 07, 2012, 07:58:12 AM
I realize that now  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on May 07, 2012, 08:14:39 AM
It's funny; while I realize and aware of how much time has passed since I was young, it doesn't bother me much.

The way I look at it, I have a wonderful family, a job, a home and am relatively healthy. Time can throw itself at me and I think I'm ok.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lordxizor on May 07, 2012, 08:36:05 AM
The way I look at it, I have a wonderful family, a job, a home and am relatively healthy. Time can throw itself at me and I think I'm ok.
I have to remind myself of this too sometimes. I wonder where all the time when now that I'm 30. Then I realize that I'm exactly where I wanted to be when I got to this age. I have a wonderful wife and two great little boys. A good job/career. It's hard to ask for much more.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 07, 2012, 08:55:01 AM
This thread makes me feel so young  :rollin :rollin :rollin

Sweetie, I can make you feel a hell of a lot younger than this thread does.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 07, 2012, 09:35:44 AM
Feeling especially old today, fellow fogeys.

Why's that?
I don't know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2012, 09:44:28 AM
Ok, at least it's not a specific reason like "it hurts to pee" or "I just can't eat cheese the way I used to".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on May 07, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
This thread makes me feel so young  :rollin :rollin :rollin

Sweetie, I can make you feel a hell of a lot younger than this thread does.

Holy shit!!!! :omg: the only rocking response possible


also

do want :eyebrows:



Ok, at least it's not a specific reason like "it hurts to pee" or "I just can't eat cheese the way I used to".
another brilliant response.... way to go Chad.. I'm with you on this one!

happens to all of us... two weeks ago I constantly felt like a bus was gonna hit me on my way to car park.
Hope it won't last long Hef... remember .... you came on board with me for my future business  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 07, 2012, 11:25:27 AM
This thread makes me feel so young  :rollin :rollin :rollin

Sweetie, I can make you feel a hell of a lot younger than this thread does.

Holy shit!!!! :omg: the only rocking response possible

That's not a response, that's a promise. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on May 07, 2012, 01:40:39 PM
lonestar rolling eyes in the back of girl's heads and curling their toes since the mid 80's. :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on May 07, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
Makes 'em wet their Depends....just not the way they were intended.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Zydar on May 07, 2012, 01:44:28 PM
:lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 07, 2012, 02:11:13 PM
lonestar rolling eyes in the back of girl's heads and curling their toes since the mid 80's. :hat

so Sig-worthy, wish I had room.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2012, 03:27:24 PM
lonestar rolling eyes in the back of girl's heads and curling their toes since the mid 80's. :hat

so Sig-worthy, wish I had room.

Copy the quote somewhere, so if you ever chose to archive/change/rotate any of the below, you can do so easily.  Maybe time to put the doc's quote on the shelf for a bit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: AndyDT on May 07, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
Orbert you're dad sounds awesome.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 07, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
lonestar rolling eyes in the back of girl's heads and curling their toes since the mid 80's. :hat

so Sig-worthy, wish I had room.

Copy the quote somewhere, so if you ever chose to archive/change/rotate any of the below, you can do so easily.  Maybe time to put the doc's quote on the shelf for a bit.
That one is hard to give up, it is validation for me. I can talk all the culinary smack I want, but to have it backed up by someone who has eaten my food, priceless.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: King Postwhore on May 07, 2012, 03:56:39 PM
We know it's your creed RJ.  We know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: obscure on May 09, 2012, 06:21:41 AM
lonestar rolling eyes in the back of girl's heads and curling their toes since the mid 80's. :hat

so Sig-worthy, wish I had room.

Copy the quote somewhere, so if you ever chose to archive/change/rotate any of the below, you can do so easily.  Maybe time to put the doc's quote on the shelf for a bit.
That one is hard to give up, it is validation for me. I can talk all the culinary smack I want, but to have it backed up by someone who has eaten my food, priceless.
lonestar rolling eyes in the back of girl's heads and curling their toes since the mid 80's. :hat

so Sig-worthy, wish I had room.

Copy the quote somewhere, so if you ever chose to archive/change/rotate any of the below, you can do so easily.  Maybe time to put the doc's quote on the shelf for a bit.
That one is hard to give up, it is validation for me. I can talk all the culinary smack I want, but to have it backed up by someone who has eaten my food, priceless.

I'll give you something sig-worthy once I've eaten your food....







oh that didn't come out right...... did it?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Hyperplex on May 09, 2012, 07:00:45 AM
That came out fine. If you had said something about eating his hot dog or sampling his cream-filled éclair, then we'd have some issues.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: lonestar on May 09, 2012, 08:05:36 AM

That one is hard to give up, it is validation for me. I can talk all the culinary smack I want, but to have it backed up by someone who has eaten my food, priceless.

I'll give you something sig-worthy once I've eaten your food....



oh that didn't come out right...... did it?

Not yet, at least. ::)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: Tick on May 09, 2012, 08:10:38 AM

That one is hard to give up, it is validation for me. I can talk all the culinary smack I want, but to have it backed up by someone who has eaten my food, priceless.

I'll give you something sig-worthy once I've eaten your food....



oh that didn't come out right...... did it?

Not yet, at least. ::)
Damn you two, get a room! :tick2: :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: El Barto on May 09, 2012, 08:11:43 AM
Beat me to it by 30 seconds, word for word. 

I think the alternate thread title should be altered to reflect the new theme of this thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on May 09, 2012, 08:22:17 AM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A. Andy's Love Advice Forum
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 09, 2012, 10:47:03 AM
That came out fine. If you had said something about eating his hot dog or sampling his cream-filled éclair, then we'd have some issues.

Reminds me of the whole Howard Stern bit....when they play the match game.

HOWARD STERN
All right, now, Let's keep going. Now it's gonna get a little rougher, OK? Everybody ready? Blank a-doodle-doo. Blank a-doodle-doo. [Music Plays] Blank a-doodle-doo. Think about that while the celebrities are writing. Here we are. Let's go over to our Dick Nixon, our own ex-president. What do you got there, Dick?
FRED NORRIS
Well, it takes a Dick to know a cock, and that's what I wrote.
HOWARD STERN
Cock-a-doodle-doo. Now, that's what I would have said. That seemed like the obvious answer. OK, let's go to our own Jackie "The Jokeman" Martling. Jackie The Jokeman?
JACKIE
Gene, I have cock, and I wrote it big. I have a big cock.
HOWARD STERN
Uh, I don't think you can say "big cock" on the radio. I think that's a no-no.
ROBIN QUIVERS
But I just said pussy.
JACKIE
Yeah, she just said pussy.
HOWARD STERN
Yes, pussy is OK. It's the way he says it. "Big cock" coming out of your mouth sounds awfully dirty.
JACKIE
So I can't say "big cock," but you can say "big cock coming out of my mouth"?
HOWARD STERN
That's correct.
JACKIE
That sucks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 26, 2012, 11:08:07 PM
Is there anything special I need to do to gain access to this club?  Secret handshake?  Hazing?  Getting shit-faced drunk in a back alley somewheres?

 ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on May 26, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
here:

tell us one part of your body that aches in an annoying fashion.
:lol




also the thread title... bahahahahah   :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 26, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Easy - my right hip.  I've had a bad case of hip bursitis since November of 2007 thanks to a busted POS car and a ginormous hill that I had to walk up to catch the bus to work.  I got a cortisone shot for it last year, but the pain never really 100% went away.  If I were in California, I could get a "card" for it since it's lower back pain AND it's been going on for over 4 years.

That okay?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on May 26, 2012, 11:33:38 PM
 :lol :lol :lol you belong with us lady.  :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 26, 2012, 11:37:33 PM
Sweet. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2012, 04:38:09 AM
Easy - my right hip.  I've had a bad case of hip bursitis since November of 2007 thanks to a busted POS car and a ginormous hill that I had to walk up to catch the bus to work.  I got a cortisone shot for it last year, but the pain never really 100% went away.  If I were in California, I could get a "card" for it since it's lower back pain AND it's been going on for over 4 years.

That okay?

As in wheelchair card for your vehicle so you get to park front and center in the gimp spots?  Yeah, you can be our spokesperson then.

As for me, my right elbow has been aching on the inside for a while now.  Try to stretch out my forearm daily, but for some reason I've evolved into a 'side' sleeper.  When I sleep on my right side, and naturally put my hand under my head, it just kills my elbow the next day.

What else for a fogey ... oh yeah, was walking the dogs yesterday, and one of my favorite :metal tunes came on the iPhone (Flaming Row - Unearth the Truth)... started headbanging and air drumming a little.  Couple of city workers doing some curb work were looking at me like "you look like a doofus headbanging you old turd!".  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 27, 2012, 05:33:46 AM
Uhg.  I'm too old to drink as much as I did yesterday.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Hyperplex on May 27, 2012, 10:43:01 AM
So in the past two days I/we (wife and I) have:

- vacuumed the house
- straightened the living room
- straightened and cleaned the kitchen
- steam cleaned the kitchen floor
- steam cleaned the den floor
- taken Eric & Cody on walks both days
- taken 8 bags of trash and useless shit to the dumpster
- gone shopping for foodstuffs for today's cookout
- bought beer & wine to supplement the fully stocked bar we maintain
- bathed Cody and trimmed his nails
- cleaned the living room carpet
- made and formed the burgers
- just put the Bear down for a nap and have 3 hours to chill, perhaps nap, and get ready for company

Not too bad for a weekend....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 27, 2012, 12:21:05 PM
Easy - my right hip.  I've had a bad case of hip bursitis since November of 2007 thanks to a busted POS car and a ginormous hill that I had to walk up to catch the bus to work.  I got a cortisone shot for it last year, but the pain never really 100% went away.  If I were in California, I could get a "card" for it since it's lower back pain AND it's been going on for over 4 years.

That okay?

As in wheelchair card for your vehicle so you get to park front and center in the gimp spots?  Yeah, you can be our spokesperson then.

Nah, I was talking about a medical green card, if you catch mah drift. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on May 27, 2012, 03:11:17 PM
Don't they give those out like candy out there?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on May 27, 2012, 04:09:41 PM
Easy - my right hip.  I've had a bad case of hip bursitis since November of 2007 thanks to a busted POS car and a ginormous hill that I had to walk up to catch the bus to work.  I got a cortisone shot for it last year, but the pain never really 100% went away.  If I were in California, I could get a "card" for it since it's lower back pain AND it's been going on for over 4 years.

That okay?

As in wheelchair card for your vehicle so you get to park front and center in the gimp spots?  Yeah, you can be our spokesperson then.

Nah, I was talking about a medical green card, if you catch mah drift. ;)
Like those Austin cops actually give a shit about it.   :lol   It'd certainly be nice to not have to worry about it at all, but most Texas cops don't make you worry too much, anyway.  My guess is that the sort of behavior that'd be required to get you busted up here would get you busted out there, even with a card. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 27, 2012, 06:00:52 PM
Don't they give those out like candy out there?

Pretty much, yeah.  But given the givens, I'd MUCH rather be in Texas than Cali (sorry, Chef).

Like those Austin cops actually give a shit about it.   :lol   It'd certainly be nice to not have to worry about it at all, but most Texas cops don't make you worry too much, anyway.  My guess is that the sort of behavior that'd be required to get you busted up here would get you busted out there, even with a card. 

That's true, now - APD/Travis County :police: won't arrest you if you are caught with a "small amount" either on your person or in your vehicle.  It's WilCo (Williamson County) that you REALLY have to worry about (aka The Land of the Mandatory Minimums).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 01, 2012, 03:57:54 PM
Hey, Coz, how much of this applies to you?

51 Reasons You're Too Old To Gig:  https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ug_news/friday_fun_too_old_to_gig.html
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 01, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
Oh Crap, I could be #3 if it was after the first set. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on June 01, 2012, 04:40:15 PM
Like those Austin cops actually give a shit about it.   :lol   It'd certainly be nice to not have to worry about it at all, but most Texas cops don't make you worry too much, anyway.  My guess is that the sort of behavior that'd be required to get you busted up here would get you busted out there, even with a card. 

That's true, now - APD/Travis County :police: won't arrest you if you are caught with a "small amount" either on your person or in your vehicle.  It's WilCo (Williamson County) that you REALLY have to worry about (aka The Land of the Mandatory Minimums).
I gather the Sheriff's office down there likes to be hardassed.  However, mandatory minimums shouldn't really apply.  Texas is actually pretty generous in what constitutes a misdemeanor amount, and the county can only push things as far as the state will allow.  First offense misdemeanor possession actually has a mandatory probation provision, rather than any jail time.  Getting hooked up certainly sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

To be clear, they shouldn't be hassling dopers at all, much less taking them to jail for the night, but considering that up to a QP you're going to walk away with some community service, it's really not so bad.  And let's be fair, how many of us have actually every bought a QP entirely for personal use.   :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on June 01, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
In WilCo?  Oh yeah.  Travis County/APD?  Yeah, not so much. :lol

TX didn't always used to be so lax though - while I was living in WilCo back in the late 80s/early-mid 90s, you could get popped for having a seed in your car's ashtray (:getoffmylawn:) IF they had prior probable cause to perform a search of your car.  That certainly could have changed in the past 10 years or so, but the WilCo rep is still there.

I totally agree, though - dope smokers are NOT the problem.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on June 01, 2012, 06:48:14 PM
There are plenty of places that'll still hook you up for small quantities, and this Wilco place might well be one of them.  I'm only suggesting that once you get sprung the next day, you're pretty much on with your life with a few hours of community service and maybe a wee bit of probation.  Cops have a ton of leeway as to whether or not they want to be assholes, and as we all know plenty of them get off on it, but the courts are obliged to mind the realities of the situation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on June 01, 2012, 10:10:30 PM
Oh yeah, I totally agree.  I'm just saying that Williamson County has ALWAYS been more militant than Austin proper/Travis County.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: njdtfan on June 01, 2012, 10:44:57 PM
Austin has the best Q in the world!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 02:35:47 AM
You know it!  Don't mess wif TX BBQ :xbones
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2012, 04:33:11 AM
You know it!  Don't mess wif TX BBQ :xbones
Being from North Carolina, I guess we will agree to disagree.  :biggrin:

But I must say that Texas-style BBQ Brisket is pretty fucking good.   :metal
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 04:35:07 AM
Heh, we WILL have to agree to disagree.  But it's all good. :)
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2012, 04:43:04 AM
But it's all good. :)
All that I have had is good.  :)
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 04:45:16 AM
I have to admit that I've not yet had NC style BBQ, but one of my coworkers is originally from there so maybe I can cajole her at some point to hook me up.  We're ALWAYS talking about food anyway, so... :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2012, 04:55:49 AM
Pork shoulder.  Low and slow.  Pulled apart.  Mmmmmmmm
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 04:58:38 AM
So I've heard. :drool:

My gal friend is also partial to a good rack of ribs too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2012, 05:00:06 AM
So I've heard. :drool:

My gal friend is also partial to a good rack of ribs too.

... would've been a much more interesting post.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 05:01:24 AM
Of course it would have... (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/sarcasm.gif)





 :laugh:
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Post by: Zydar on June 02, 2012, 05:04:48 AM
:eyebrows:
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 05:05:49 AM
Well played. :clap: :rollin
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2012, 06:14:35 AM
A nice rack is important.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 06:16:23 AM
I can't say that I disagree with that.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 02, 2012, 06:18:56 AM
38D.  Yup, I'm all set.
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Post by: njdtfan on June 02, 2012, 07:47:03 AM
I will preface, that I live in New jersey, but am a BBQ nut. Thing about Q is that how it varies and each and every region is killer. Texas, the Carolinas, memphis, Kansas City. All killer. I am a brisket man myself, but give me a good Q and you have me.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 02, 2012, 07:48:41 AM
We've got a get place close to Boston where they have great ribs but my favorite is the fried catfish in cornmeal.  Great beers too.

https://redbones.com/
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Post by: njdtfan on June 02, 2012, 07:51:06 AM
I was there last month dude (my sister lives in Medway). Killer ribs.  I

I am a Q nut. I do about 10 competions a year. Been doing it for5 about 10 years, and still trying to perfect it.
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Post by: lonestar on June 02, 2012, 08:18:18 AM
38D.  Yup, I'm all set.


You or the misses?
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
Boo

Ya!
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
38D.  Yup, I'm all set.


You or the misses?

(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/motivation/24571.jpg)
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Post by: El Barto on June 02, 2012, 10:17:34 AM
Pork shoulder.  Low and slow.  Pulled apart.  Mmmmmmmm
You from one of the regions where they have to drown the thing in sauce?  That was always my problem with pulled pork.  Seems like the pig is only there as a means to mop up the sauce.

Last time I was in Austin for the DT tour I made a run down to Lockhart for lunch, and it really was as good as advertized.  When things get built up that much it's hard to actually meet expectations, but this sure did.  Absolutely stellar. 
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Post by: lonestar on June 02, 2012, 10:29:32 AM
I was there last month dude (my sister lives in Medway). Killer ribs.  I

I am a Q nut. I do about 10 competions a year. Been doing it for5 about 10 years, and still trying to perfect it.

Missed this one, I've done some competitions myself, hell of a lot of fun. My buddy has a kick ass Gatorpit trailer smoker we use, nothing like spending three days.in a field with 40 smokers going full tilt.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2012, 10:45:29 AM
Pork shoulder.  Low and slow.  Pulled apart.  Mmmmmmmm
You from one of the regions where they have to drown the thing in sauce?  That was always my problem with pulled pork.  Seems like the pig is only there as a means to mop up the sauce.
Not drowned.  A sauce is frequently used, but it isn't necessary.  Actually, NC is strange in that what kind of sauce is served depends on geography.  Eastern NC sauce is vinegar based and spicy, whereas Western NC sauce is thicker, tomato-based, and sweeter.  I like both, but prefer Western (which makes sense, I suppose).  But a little goes a long way - I prefer to taste the pork, the sauce should just be an accent.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 02, 2012, 01:02:42 PM
38D.  Yup, I'm all set.


You or the misses?

Hey big boy,  you'll never know.


Of course you do!!  I'd never leave the house if I had them on me!! :lol
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 03:08:06 PM
Last time I was in Austin for the DT tour I made a run down to Lockhart for lunch, and it really was as good as advertized.  When things get built up that much it's hard to actually meet expectations, but this sure did.  Absolutely stellar.

I think I know where you're talking about.  However... Ironworks on Cesar Chavez and Red River downtown is stellar.  Green Mesquite on Barton Springs Road ain't bad either.

You from one of the regions where they have to drown the thing in sauce?  That was always my problem with pulled pork.  Seems like the pig is only there as a means to mop up the sauce.
Not drowned.  A sauce is frequently used, but it isn't necessary.  Actually, NC is strange in that what kind of sauce is served depends on geography.  Eastern NC sauce is vinegar based and spicy, whereas Western NC sauce is thicker, tomato-based, and sweeter.

I have to agree with Barto - I've never been a fan of BBQ drowned in sauce, especially one that's too cloyingly sweet.  I probably wouldn't mind a spicier mix, but having not tried a vinegar-based sauce I'd be a bit leery of it at first.  My absolute favorite BBQ sauce is my Dad's, but I'd get killed if I shared the recipe. :lol   It's not sweet, but it does have a little bite to it.  Sooooo freaking good.
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Post by: El Barto on June 02, 2012, 03:35:27 PM
In Lockhart I hit up Blacks.  The best sauce in the world would have been an insult to their brisket.  Smoke and cow in the right proportions are all you need.  I skipped Kreutz and Smitty's since I figured their notoriety probably worked against them.  A famed rivalry is great for business but poor for quality. 
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Post by: DebraKadabra on June 02, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
Yeah, that's it - I believe that was the place that Jah-Duh Laurentiis (Giada :lol ) went to when she filmed the Weekend Getaway show for Austin.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2012, 04:40:02 AM
So, my oldest daughter turns 16 today.  I feel older than normal.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 30, 2012, 04:41:57 AM
Time sure does fly hef.

Me 23 year old nephew is moving in with us next week.  I'm feeling old too. 
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2012, 05:43:28 AM
I know what you mean.

We are planning a big blowout bash for her this evening.  Luau-themed.  Lots of crazy-ass decorations, some barbecue, lots of music.  Of course, this is all supposed to be outside.

Of course, we are having a heat wave, and the forecast is for a record high of 103.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2012, 05:48:34 AM
16 huh Hef?  Wow.  How has she evolved as a teenager?  I've heard some colleagues with some horror stories how their sweet young baby daughter turned into a sassy lad with attitude as ripe as the day is long.

I'm not sure whether it's a function of having kids, or just a function of getting older, but WHERE THE HELL DOES TIME GO???  Seriously, each month, season, year just seems to go by so much faster than it did when I was a kid, or even in my teens and 20s.  My kids are 12 in a 5 weeks.  Only 5 more years before they'll be going to higher education (hopefully jingle.son has got it in him   :D kidding... he's pretty talented with digital animation at 11 years old).

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2012, 06:08:21 AM
I have no complaints about my daughter.  She is very humble and we have very few problems with her.  She has a great sense of humor and is extremely intelligent - she just finished her sophomore year of high school ranked # 1 in her class, and has been accepted at the North Carolina School of Science & Mathematics, where she will spend her junior & senior years.  She is also a gifted musician, playing piano, bass, and various percussion instruments.  She also dabbles in guitar and violin.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2012, 06:11:46 AM
Jackpot dude.  Nice to hear that.  Gives me hope  :laugh:  Both my kids made the honor roll in 1st and 2nd term this year.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2012, 06:24:55 AM
I'm not sure whether it's a function of having kids, or just a function of getting older, but WHERE THE HELL DOES TIME GO???  Seriously, each month, season, year just seems to go by so much faster than it did when I was a kid, or even in my teens and 20s.  My kids are 12 in a 5 weeks.  Only 5 more years before they'll be going to higher education (hopefully jingle.son has got it in him   :D kidding... he's pretty talented with digital animation at 11 years old).

COME AT ME BRO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2012, 06:32:06 AM
I'm not sure whether it's a function of having kids, or just a function of getting older, but WHERE THE HELL DOES TIME GO???  Seriously, each month, season, year just seems to go by so much faster than it did when I was a kid, or even in my teens and 20s.  My kids are 12 in a 5 weeks.  Only 5 more years before they'll be going to higher education (hopefully jingle.son has got it in him   :D kidding... he's pretty talented with digital animation at 11 years old).

COME AT ME BRO.

Get yo ass outta the fogey thread you 20-something!

Although, according to your physical ailments, you fit in just fine even with us 40+ uber-fogeys
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Post by: Hyperplex on June 30, 2012, 06:33:10 AM
Spending the week at the beach has only re-re-re-re-reaffirmed to me that my son is amazing.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2012, 06:33:36 AM
I'm not sure whether it's a function of having kids, or just a function of getting older, but WHERE THE HELL DOES TIME GO???  Seriously, each month, season, year just seems to go by so much faster than it did when I was a kid, or even in my teens and 20s.  My kids are 12 in a 5 weeks.  Only 5 more years before they'll be going to higher education (hopefully jingle.son has got it in him   :D kidding... he's pretty talented with digital animation at 11 years old).

COME AT ME BRO.

Get yo ass outta the fogey thread you 20-something!

Although, according to your physical ailments, you fit in just fine even with us 40+ uber-fogeys

All of the intelligence and common sense of a 10 year old, with the feeble old body of a 50 year old. I am a man of two worlds, yet of neither.
Sorry for the interruption. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 30, 2012, 06:48:37 AM
I have no complaints about my daughter.  She is very humble and we have very few problems with her.  She has a great sense of humor and is extremely intelligent - she just finished her sophomore year of high school ranked # 1 in her class, and has been accepted at the North Carolina School of Science & Mathematics, where she will spend her junior & senior years.  She is also a gifted musician, playing piano, bass, and various percussion instruments.  She also dabbles in guitar and violin.

You must be so proud.  Enjoy the day with your family Hef.


Blob, picking fights you can win!  Why don't you pick on somebody your age?!  Well not me though.  I'm too old to fight. :lol
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Post by: Tick on June 30, 2012, 08:16:57 AM
I have no complaints about my daughter.  She is very humble and we have very few problems with her.  She has a great sense of humor and is extremely intelligent - she just finished her sophomore year of high school ranked # 1 in her class, and has been accepted at the North Carolina School of Science & Mathematics, where she will spend her junior & senior years.  She is also a gifted musician, playing piano, bass, and various percussion instruments.  She also dabbles in guitar and violin.
Your a blessed man, Heff!
My daughter has very similar attributes. She is a straight A student. She plays violin and is in drama club. She is a ham like her dad. Love my kid! She is entering 7th grade in the fall.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
I am very blessed indeed.
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Post by: wkiml on June 30, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
My oldest just graduated HS  middle guy will be going into his junior year and my youngest just turned 13

Middle guy already started his own company at 16 ( promotions) has backers willing to invest mucho $$$ he was smart enough to get alot of these dubstep artists on board before this stuff broke big

Hes done some video work 3d rendering for some artists and has his college all lined up already
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 30, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
My oldest just graduated HS  middle guy will be going into his junior year and my youngest just turned 13

Middle guy already started his own company at 16 ( promotions) has backers willing to invest mucho $$$ he was smart enough to get alot of these dubstep artists on board before this stuff broke big

Hes done some video work 3d rendering for some artists and has his college all lined up already

Hot damn that is awesome.  Until my brother just had his first baby, my youngest niece or nephew is 19.  I seems like yesterday, I put my nephew's diaper on wrong.  Were the hell did the time go?
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Post by: lonestar on June 30, 2012, 10:50:33 PM
Love braggin time. Mine just graduated HS with highest honors, a slough of scholorships that will pay for 90% of college at Ithica University where she will study communication and voice. In a NY statewide singing competition, she finished second, and had the lead in her school musical three out of the four years she was there, in her senior year, she directed it instead. Very proud papa.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2012, 11:10:38 PM
:clap:

Very tired.  Birthday party now over and most of the cleanup is done.  Time for bed.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2012, 12:43:19 AM
I have step grandkids....... jeebus how did I get so old???? :facepalm:
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Post by: lonestar on July 01, 2012, 12:48:12 AM
Wow, I think you might have just won the fogey award.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2012, 12:52:36 AM
Wow, I think you might have just won the fogey award.

I'm scratchin my head thinking... how the hell did this happen??? :lol
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Post by: lonestar on July 01, 2012, 12:53:40 AM
I was doing the same shit watching my daughter get her diploma.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2012, 12:57:47 AM
Just read back... graduated with honors!!  Well Done !!!
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Post by: lonestar on July 01, 2012, 12:59:55 AM
Yup, off to college in two months.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2012, 01:02:27 AM
Awesome, Amigo  :tup  Well done...well done!
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Post by: lonestar on July 01, 2012, 01:04:58 AM
She did all the work, such a dedicated kid, I have no idea where she got it since both her mother and I are huge flakes. :lol
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2012, 01:08:13 AM
I don't buy that Bro... didn't you go to Culinary school??  Regardless....... your a hard working success!
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Post by: lonestar on July 01, 2012, 01:15:18 AM
Not that, we both are just flakes when it comes to planning and organizing our lives, whereas the kid is so detail oriented and builds for the future without any prodding or pushing, so unlike her parents. Trust me, I'm not complaining by any means, It's a dream to be able to go to your kid and ask her "did you take care of ______ yet", and she just rolls her eyes and says she got it done two weeks ago.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2012, 01:18:26 AM
 :lol  I hear ya.  You're fortunate for sure, to have a kid so well grounded and sharp!
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Post by: obscure on July 02, 2012, 07:37:29 AM
You're awesome Hef. period.
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Post by: TAC on July 02, 2012, 07:43:28 AM
So my 9 year old is finally interested in baseball. We've been Playing catch outside. What does that have to do with the Fogey thread? Nothing except that I was looking at my glove and the signature that was printed on it.... Ron Guidry! :lol
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Post by: Tick on July 02, 2012, 08:16:20 AM
Love braggin time. Mine just graduated HS with highest honors, a slough of scholorships that will pay for 90% of college at Ithica University where she will study communication and voice. In a NY statewide singing competition, she finished second, and had the lead in her school musical three out of the four years she was there, in her senior year, she directed it instead. Very proud papa.
Awesome! :tup
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Post by: wkiml on July 02, 2012, 12:03:26 PM
So my 9 year old is finally interested in baseball. We've been Playing catch outside. What does that have to do with the Fogey thread? Nothing except that I was looking at my glove and the signature that was printed on it.... Ron Guidry! :lol

Are you legally allowed to own one of those in your neck of the woods?  I would think it could lead to a lynching if news got out
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Post by: wkiml on July 02, 2012, 12:15:48 PM
Okay guys need some advice here...

As you know I have 3 teen boys , since my ex passed back in April the 3 of them have been going at each other like cats and dogs . I go to bed between 9:30 pm and 10 pm since I get up for work at 4am. Being thats its there summer vacation I allow them to stay up , last night I get woken up at 1am. My 16 yr old and 13 yr old are going at it full out brawl, the 16 yr old outweights his younger brother by a good 70 lbs I come out of my room fucking steamed, grab the 16 year old and literally throw him across the room off his brother, he rapped himself pretty good against the wall. I told him I'm sick of the shit and its going to stop now, he turned around and said I just abused him and if I every lay another hand on him he will report me to the authorities.

Did I over react ? YES but at this point I'm so sick of the bickering and fighting I really don't know what to do

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Post by: lonestar on July 02, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
Damn man, tough situation. First a good heart to heart with the 16 year old would seem right, apologize and make him try to understand where it was coming from, that you are just so frustrated with the fighting. I would think a good talk amongst all of you would be helpful too, try to build on the loss that all of you are feeling in a positive manner. I am totally unfamiliar with a lot of the dynamics, having just one kid. Maybe seek advice in the program too, there is a ton of wisdom there as both of us know. Good luck bud.
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 02, 2012, 12:46:38 PM
Not at all.  I think he is acting out.  Sit down and talk with him about their mom and how they need to be a family and not battling.

As for the abuse.  Nip that in the bud right away.  Tell him the consiqences if he did that and how it could separate the family, literally!!  Them him there are repercussions for throwing out a word like abuse so frivolously that could lead to the kids living in foster homes and not together.  Thell them you know how hard it is right now that they don't have their mom but they need to pull together as a family to get through this tough time.

Tell them "You" need then as much as their need you right now.
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Post by: EPICVIEW on July 02, 2012, 12:53:37 PM
I turned 48! as I always say " it beat the alternative"...LOL...

Oh cr*p I have no modify button... so I will stop typing and making typos....

to all the nice people have a great day
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Post by: Orbert on July 02, 2012, 01:03:16 PM
Ask him why he thinks it's okay for him to beat on his younger, smaller brother, but when you use necessary force to get him off of his brother, it's "abuse".

Also, point out to him that it's not abuse.  Abuse is when you take it too far.  You protected one of your kids; the fact that you had to act against another one of your kids doesn't really matter.  So he bumped his head.  Big fucking deal.  Tell him to man up.  If he's gonna beat on someone younger and smaller than him, maybe he ought to know what it feels like.

Note:  You didn't beat on him; you didn't even overreact, as far as I'm concerned.  If he wasn't beating on his brother in the first place, no one would've gotten hurt.
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Post by: TAC on July 02, 2012, 01:05:37 PM
wki, that's a tough spot. I'm sorry to hear that the boys lost their mother.

As King said, your 16 year old needs to understand the ramifications of using the term "abuse". He's free to move out anytime, but he may end up putting his brothers in foster care at the same time.
I would remind him that you have a responsibility to protect all of your children, especially one that is being outweighed by 70 pounds.

Remind them that all they have is each other.

I only wish you the best of luck.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2012, 07:25:37 PM
Or tell him the police could just as easily charge him with assault. Kings advice is probably the better approach.

Feel for you dude. Can't begin to imagine how difficult a situation this must be.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on July 02, 2012, 07:26:24 PM
Were they fighting like that before your ex passed?
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Post by: wkiml on July 03, 2012, 05:09:19 AM
Were they fighting like that before your ex passed?

No...occasionally all brothers will argue and fight but this seems to becoming a more common response

I may be wrong as my ex had custody mon to fri (I had them on the weekends) I moved back in with her during the last year to help take care of her and the kids , even during that time I think it was physical once during that span

I know they have issues with her passing, my oldest has pretty much closed himself down emotionally around the house and is spending more and more time away from the hosue with his friends. I have offered to take them to grievance (sp) counseling but they have refused saying they want to deal with it on their own

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Post by: DebraKadabra on July 03, 2012, 11:30:14 AM
I think you need to force them to go - I'm sure I don't have to tell you that they're all having their own issues with her passing and the easiest way that they see to deal with it is beating each other up.

I really don't envy you that situation, but as the sole surviving parent you need to restore the peace in your house.  Good luck to you, man.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on July 03, 2012, 11:45:50 AM
Debra as an alcoholic I am all to familiar with therapy seesions and such. The first go around I was forced to attend therapy and I quit because I had the attitude that I didnt need it and good it was awful being forced to attend   lo and behold I relapsed

Second go around I followed the program not because I was being forced but because I realized that it was there to help me not to embarrass or shame me

you have to be willing to go to therapy otherwise IMHO you don't get anything out of it

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 03, 2012, 11:50:36 AM
Yeah, I know.  That actually may not have been the best answer to your problem, sorry.  Just thinking out loud.

I'd say, then, to have as calm/rational a sit-down talk with them as possible - if they're all willing to talk, that is.  Trust me, I know how 16 year olds can shut down.  I did it myself.

I just really sympathize with your sitch.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on July 03, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
did the sit down with all of them last night

My 18 yr old and 13 yr old were receptive and actually seem to get it, especially when I told them how much I missed her as well

The 16 yr old just nodded and I could tell he was zoning me out. Afterwards I slipped into his room for a one on one and just tried to get him to talk which again only led him to nodding and one word replies

I even asked him if he saw someone else beating on his younger brother , would he go to his brothers aid? His reply was a cold no (wasnt snide or sarcastic just a plan and simple NO)

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 03, 2012, 12:04:28 PM
That's a crying shame - my SO's 16 year old reacts the same way when she gets in trouble for anything.  Just completely shuts down, head down, one word answers (if that)... which provokes the WRONG reaction in me, as it pisses me off even more because I remember doing that same crap at her/your son's age.

That IS good that the other two were receptive to what you were trying to accomplish though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on July 03, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
He is probably still pissed at you, and is rebelling in his own way, give him some time to process. I'm sure if his brother was getting jumped IRL, he would be the first there to defend him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 03, 2012, 12:12:07 PM
That makes sense, even though Bill had NOTHING to do with his ex's illness and demise.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on July 03, 2012, 12:17:42 PM
That makes sense, even though Bill had NOTHING to do with his ex's illness and demise.

He's pissed at me because I got physical in breaking up him beating on his younger brother

thats what Lonestar was referring too
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 03, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
Oh, shit... my bad. :blush
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on July 03, 2012, 12:23:18 PM
That makes sense, even though Bill had NOTHING to do with his ex's illness and demise.

He's pissed at me because I got physical in breaking up him beating on his younger brother

thats what Lonestar was referring too
Yes I was, but in a way Debra is touching on something too, in a blameless situation such as this, he still feels the need to blame someone, and it is very common for that blame to be misdirected on to the surviving parent, even if he is repressing it and not speaking it out loud, he still feels it and it affects his actions and behavior. Have you talked to anyone in the program about this whole situation, they have been invaluable in me reconnecting with my daughter.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
Regarding therapy, you're bang on Bill.  If they don't want to go, it's not going to work anyway.  It's a very tricky thing to get someone to WANT to do what you NEED them to do.  Do they recognize the benefit it's given you as a recovering alcoholic?  Maybe that's the angle?  Doubt it, but anything is worth a shot.

Agree with RJ... he'd probably defend his little brother if he was getting the snot kicked out of him.

I hate to jump here, but is tough love an option?  If he doesn't respond positively, is he "welcome" to "venture" out on his own?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on July 03, 2012, 12:37:46 PM
@ Lonestar I've talked to my sponsor as far as the rest of the group that will occur tonight (Tuesday night meeting) and again tomorrow with my home group

@Jingle on his own at 16 really isn't an option at this point my family lives in other states and I believe he would only resent me more if I played that card

They (all 3) are fully aware of how important the therapy was and the Bi-weekly meetings are a part of my continued sobriety.

I'll give it a few days to let him dwell on the events that went down. I made my apologies too him if he chooses to accept them that's his decision , if not I cannot concern myself with how he sees me I need to keep moving forward
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on July 03, 2012, 12:50:15 PM
Cool.  A lot of this is a matter of time as you well know, draw the boundaries with them on what is and isn't acceptable, ie, kicking the crap out of your little brother is NOT acceptable, and let them heal in their way. I will be praying for you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 03, 2012, 01:27:03 PM
Same here - again, best of luck to you on a very hard situation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2012, 02:13:51 PM


The 16 yr old just nodded and I could tell he was zoning me out. Afterwards I slipped into his room for a one on one and just tried to get him to talk which again only led him to nodding and one word replies

I even asked him if he saw someone else beating on his younger brother , would he go to his brothers aid? His reply was a cold no (wasnt snide or sarcastic just a plan and simple NO)

Bill, great move on your part giving him the one on one. Even though he was "zoning out" your visit with him matters greatly. Don't let up. Kill him with attention and kindness.
I'm sure deep down it was important for him. He may not open his mouth, but he can't shut his ears.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 03, 2012, 03:43:01 PM
I agree with TAC on this one.  Lot's of other great advice.  I think consistancy and persistence in a loving, supportive way can help.  I know I was a bastard of a 16 yr. old to my folks, and I had nothing in the way of trauma like your kids have had Bill.  I hope things come around for your family.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 10:19:07 AM
I found this dying on page 4.  WTF???  Cmon ya old fucks!  Put down the jello pudding cups already!  SHEESH!!! ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 23, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
hai oldies kekekeke
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 10:23:46 AM
Wassup ya young Casanova!  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Progmetty on July 23, 2012, 10:24:58 AM
I've been eligible for this thread for a month and half now :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 10:29:38 AM
Well welcome to the Club Oldtimer!  Grab a pudding cup and some metamucil! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Progmetty on July 23, 2012, 10:41:40 AM
Thank you CrimsonSunrise!
So.. does anybody else find it really weird that people who were born after 1995 can already speak and change their own clothes? Cause I find it unbefuckinbelievable, one reason being that I actually remember 1995. For some reason it's hard for me to grasp the fact that people kept getting made after I was made and that they are growing too hehe
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 11:39:43 AM
Thank you CrimsonSunrise!
So.. does anybody else find it really weird that people who were born after 1995 can already speak and change their own clothes? Cause I find it unbefuckinbelievable, one reason being that I actually remember 1995. For some reason it's hard for me to grasp the fact that people kept getting made after I was made and that they are growing too hehe

Just wait...it get's worse.  Next Spring when I get married I'll have step grandkids.  I mean for fucks sake, I don't have kids!!  How the hell does that work??  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on July 23, 2012, 11:46:46 AM
Thank you CrimsonSunrise!
So.. does anybody else find it really weird that people who were born after 1995 can already speak and change their own clothes? Cause I find it unbefuckinbelievable, one reason being that I actually remember 1995. For some reason it's hard for me to grasp the fact that people kept getting made after I was made and that they are growing too hehe
Hell, those kids will be next year's Playboy models. 

What gets me is that kids born in 2000 are already my age when I started smoking grass, and I'd been a social drinker for a couple of years. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on July 23, 2012, 12:02:35 PM
My nephew just turned 13.  So now I have a niece and a nephew who are both teenagers.  And then kids born in 1991 are old enough to buy beer (in the US).

I never thought I'd feel this old being 31   :|
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Thank you CrimsonSunrise!
So.. does anybody else find it really weird that people who were born after 1995 can already speak and change their own clothes? Cause I find it unbefuckinbelievable, one reason being that I actually remember 1995. For some reason it's hard for me to grasp the fact that people kept getting made after I was made and that they are growing too hehe
Hell, those kids will be next year's Playboy models. 

What gets me is that kids born in 2000 are already my age when I started smoking grass, and I'd been a social drinker for a couple of years.

I look at my Niece who's 28 now, and I remember changing her diapers when I was an adult.... :-\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 12:05:36 PM
My nephew just turned 13.  So now I have a niece and a nephew who are both teenagers.  And then kids born in 1991 are old enough to buy beer (in the US).

I never thought I'd feel this old being 31   :|

Hate to say it again.... but might as well settle in, it gets worse... :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 23, 2012, 12:18:09 PM
I've been eligible for this thread for a month and half now :D

Ok, so what's the nagging pain you always feel?

I'm not doubting the validity of your fogeyness, it was a question that was asked of me before I was embraced in the smell of Ben Ga.... um, approved as a true bona fide fogey. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on July 23, 2012, 12:42:04 PM
My nephew just turned 13.  So now I have a niece and a nephew who are both teenagers.  And then kids born in 1991 are old enough to buy beer (in the US).

I never thought I'd feel this old being 31   :|

Hate to say it again.... but might as well settle in, it gets worse... :lol

*Settles into a comfortable rocking chair*  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 23, 2012, 12:42:47 PM
Wassup ya young Casanova!  ;D

 :heart

Train me in your ways, ye olde people.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 23, 2012, 12:46:26 PM
Listen Gene Simmons of DTF, we live vicariously though you.  No teaching needed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on July 23, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
Learn how to walk 10 miles to school, uphill both ways.

Thank you CrimsonSunrise!
So.. does anybody else find it really weird that people who were born after 1995 can already speak and change their own clothes? Cause I find it unbefuckinbelievable, one reason being that I actually remember 1995. For some reason it's hard for me to grasp the fact that people kept getting made after I was made and that they are growing too hehe

Just wait...it get's worse.  Next Spring when I get married I'll have step grandkids.  I mean for fucks sake, I don't have kids!!  How the hell does that work??  :lol

Maybe having grandkids skips a generation?  Like balding? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 23, 2012, 12:49:51 PM
Am I allowed here?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 23, 2012, 12:50:54 PM
Am I allowed here?

Only with a leash.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 23, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
Put it on me, Sir. The tighter, the better.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 23, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
Learn how to walk 10 miles to school, uphill both ways.

Thank you CrimsonSunrise!
So.. does anybody else find it really weird that people who were born after 1995 can already speak and change their own clothes? Cause I find it unbefuckinbelievable, one reason being that I actually remember 1995. For some reason it's hard for me to grasp the fact that people kept getting made after I was made and that they are growing too hehe

In the snow!!!!

yeah....still have all my hair, but it's gray as fuck... ;D

Just wait...it get's worse.  Next Spring when I get married I'll have step grandkids.  I mean for fucks sake, I don't have kids!!  How the hell does that work??  :lol

Maybe having grandkids skips a generation?  Like balding? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on July 30, 2012, 05:46:28 AM
Any fogies here use Melatonin? My sleep pattern has been F&*ked up for weeks I'm exhausted when I get home toss and turn until 1 or 2 in the morning than finally fall asleep only to get up at 4 am and start it all over again

Considering i'm usually in bed by 10 pm considering my early start will the Melatonin leave me groggy in the morning ?

Any side effects I should watch out for ?

Is it addictive? (I know its naturally produced by the body, but will I become dependant on it)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on July 30, 2012, 05:55:03 AM
I've used it for a couple of weeks when I was on the night shift.  It was the only thing that could get me to sleep through the day.  That said, I don't know about the side effects or addictive qualities of it, but I didn't feel groggy when I woke up after taking it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on July 30, 2012, 07:49:01 AM
I had some kind of sleep disorder last year after my surgery, and my doctor suggested melatonin.  I'm not sure how much it helped, I guess it did, and I didn't feel any worse for it, no side effects to speak of.  And even after popping a couple every night a for a few weeks, I was able to drop them cold when things got back to normal, so I wouldn't say that it's really addictive.  But I tend to not get addicted to stuff at all, when the substance in question is known to be addictive.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on July 30, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
Big fan.  If you take too much you'll get headaches, but that's about it.  I've found that it doesn't really make me sleepy, but it calms the squirrels in your head.  If your problem is just that your mind is racing, that'll do the trick. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 30, 2012, 11:07:01 AM
Took it the first 2 weeks of my new job but after working for 2 weeks I didn't need it anymore.  Took two pills a half hour before I went to sleep.  I can tell you since my wife works at a pharmacy,  her boss told her to tell me not to use it for long periods of time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on July 30, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
Big fan.  If you take too much you'll get headaches, but that's about it.  I've found that it doesn't really make me sleepy, but it calms the squirrels in your head.  If your problem is just that your mind is racing, that'll do the trick.

I'm physically and mentally exhausted when I get home, but get into bed and toss and turn for hours....blame it on the squirrels or whatever else is going on in my head

I'll check with my doctor see if he seems okay with me using it 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: splent on July 30, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Will I be in the club next year?  I turn 30 next year
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 30, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Yes, but for now... (insert Schwarzenegger voice) 

Get.  Out!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 30, 2012, 12:03:34 PM
Will I be in the club next year?  I turn 30 next year

We will card you then.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 30, 2012, 12:04:23 PM
I have a hard time believing he'll be 30, though.  So yeah - once the date arrives we'll need to see some form of ID. :police:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30 & Over Thread
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 13, 2012, 10:21:25 PM
I have to vent about this, and I don't want to piss off the kids here so I'm leaving this here.

Kids math skills have eroded so much compared to when I was in school.  As most of you know I teach chemistry at a small liberal arts school, and one of the classes I teach is freshman level general chemistry, which has the pre-requisite of either passing or placing out of math 101.  The most complicated math we do is some basic algebra - 7th grade level stuff - but mostly just simple + - / * stuff.  When asked if I would allow them to use a calculator on a test, I said my inclination was no because it was simple math, and I know that hoards of textual information can be stored on a graphing calculator so I don't want them to have access to them when all they have to do is basic functions.  If you saw their response you would have thought I started world war 3.  One of them even asked me, "How do you expect us to do the math without a calculator?"  WTF kind of question is that?  I had encountered this mentality to some extent teaching organic chemistry at VT, but there is a lot less math on o-chem I really didn't see it.  Is it too much to ask that you can do something as simple as calculating the formula weight of Al2(SO4)3, which would be (27*2)+{[32+(16*4)]*3}, without a calculator?  Another example of how far skills have eroded is that I actually had to explain how 1/(1/x) = x, therefore the calculation of g/(g/mol) = mol.  Since I was in HS before No Child Left Behind, I don't know how teaching math has changed, but it seems like kids have grown overly dependent on the calculator.

If you are a parent, don't let your kids touch a calculator.  You're doing them a terrible disservice.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on September 14, 2012, 01:45:25 AM
mmm .. totally with you on that one... math skills is a must have for everyone regardless of what they do...

well it's never been an issue in this country... there is math overload since the first grade... I've never complained... both because I've always loved math and because it's a helped me a great deal with my education and career....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on September 14, 2012, 02:58:58 AM
LOL...you guys. Joined, old fart reporting for duty :police:



Or had I joined already?Can't seem to remember...and I'm fogged if I'm goint to read back forty pages...  :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 14, 2012, 04:24:02 AM
Hail, Cy! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 14, 2012, 05:06:42 AM
I always use this as a joke Mason but it has some validity to it.


Math skills have deteriorated because bowling alleys now have a computer generated score on a screen.  No onw has to add simple math anymore.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30 & Over Thread
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2012, 05:26:07 AM
Is it too much to ask that you can do something as simple as calculating the formula weight of Al2(SO4)3, which would be (27*2)+{[32+(16*4)]*3}, without a calculator?  Another example of how far skills have eroded is that I actually had to explain how 1/(1/x) = x, therefore the calculation of g/(g/mol) = mol. 

What?  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 14, 2012, 05:35:55 AM
Yeah, I wasn't gonna say nuthin, but... :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30 & Over Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 14, 2012, 06:32:39 AM
Is it too much to ask that you can do something as simple as calculating the formula weight of Al2(SO4)3, which would be (27*2)+{[32+(16*4)]*3}, without a calculator?  Another example of how far skills have eroded is that I actually had to explain how 1/(1/x) = x, therefore the calculation of g/(g/mol) = mol. 

What?  :lol

I can help you.  Replace Al2 with cans of corn and (SO4) with display space. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2012, 08:16:23 AM
It's a genuine miracle that I was able to graduate from high school, and the inability to pass chemistry was a big part of the problem.  Specifically the math was an issue.  If Avogadro was still alive, I'd hunt him down and beat his sorry nerd ass.

And now for a bit of explanation.  In my case, it's just a matter of how my brain's wired.  Give me a sheet of scratch paper and I can figure out either of those two equations.  You'll never be able to discern how I did it, but it'll be correct.  Demand that I solve it in a traditional manner and show all of my work and I'll fuck it up 8 different ways.  Solving an equation in 8 written steps when I can solve it my head doesn't help anybody.  Unfortunately, like everything else in school, instructions are rigid and inflexible.  Part of my issues came from being unable to do the work as they demanded, and a bigger part was that I don't suffer obtuse assholes very well.  The bottom line is that there wasn't a damn thing in high school that I wasn't smart enough to do, but there was plenty I couldn't do in a manner they insisted on, which made HS a really shitty place to try and learn anything for me.  That led me pretty early to the conclusion that I was better off smoking dope and getting laid than jumping through their hoops. 

Is the answer 340?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 14, 2012, 08:31:39 AM
342 actually.  But I can deal with a math error, no one is perfect.  Getting the equation correct (I showed a condensed form) shows me that they understand how a molecular weight is calculated, that would be sufficent for most of the credit since the concept is understood.  It's more their insistance that they NEED a calculator that is frustrating.  Aside from the technology aspect, I'm starting to suspect that SoL (standards of Learning) tests are a huge culprit since they focus solely on getting right answers as apposed to teaching processes and learning how to think. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on September 14, 2012, 08:32:11 AM
Is it too much to ask that you can do something as simple as calculating the formula weight of Al2(SO4)3, which would be (27*2)+{[32+(16*4)]*3}, without a calculator?  Another example of how far skills have eroded is that I actually had to explain how 1/(1/x) = x, therefore the calculation of g/(g/mol) = mol. 

What?  :lol

I can help you.  Replace Al2 with cans of corn and (SO4) with display space. :lol

There's two Aluminums at 27 each (27*2), and 3 SO4's, so 32 for the Sulphur, and the Oxygens are 16 each, so {[32+(16*4)]*3}.  Add them together.  Basically algebra; it's not ever stoichiometry.

And if they don't understand that taking the reciprocal of a reciprocal gets you the original value back again, that's because they don't teach theory anymore, just rote.  Rote is fine, but it's only the first step.  You still have to teach them to think.

But in the U.S., most teachers suck because they don't get paid worth shit.  It's something you "end up" doing when it should be something you aspire to.  But no one will pay teachers more, because everyone knows that most teachers suck.  Classic Catch-22 situation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on September 14, 2012, 08:46:03 AM
I hear ya, though my math skills have eroded to shit over the years. I could do those equations, though it would take me a while and a lot of searching the dark recesses of my brain. The only math skills I have now are doing percentages and simple calculations, stuff I need for work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2012, 08:55:01 AM
342 actually.  But I can deal with a math error, no one is perfect.  Getting the equation correct (I showed a condensed form) shows me that they understand how a molecular weight is calculated, that would be sufficent for most of the credit since the concept is understood.  It's more their insistance that they NEED a calculator that is frustrating.  Aside from the technology aspect, I'm starting to suspect that SoL (standards of Learning) tests are a huge culprit since they focus solely on getting right answers as apposed to teaching processes and learning how to think.
I was also really bad about not double checking my work (where I would have caught that).  :lol

The problem is that I did that in my head, so you wouldn't have seen anything but an answer.  I suppose I could have written it out as an equation and then just given the answer, though. However, in high school, where I developed a strong resentment towards math, chemistry, French, English, art, teachers and school in general, that never would have flown. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on September 14, 2012, 09:28:31 AM
its not just math anymore ....all 3 of my kids (middle school/high school and college) are now required to hand in all homework and other assignments typed (other than math) . There penmanship is terrible they can barely write cursive . When I was in school, you were actually graded on your penmanship and some teachers would require everything be written in cursive (script)

We as a society have become so reliant on technology in one form or another that its down right scary
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: SystematicThought on September 14, 2012, 09:30:33 AM
I don't think I'm allowed to post in this because I'm not over 30, but I just wanted to say in terms of penmanship. Most older people I've met have dreadful handwriting. Worse than some first graders

Carry on
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2012, 09:45:48 AM
its not just math anymore ....all 3 of my kids (middle school/high school and college) are now required to hand in all homework and other assignments typed (other than math) . There penmanship is terrible they can barely write cursive . When I was in school, you were actually graded on your penmanship and some teachers would require everything be written in cursive (script)

We as a society have become so reliant on technology in one form or another that its down right scary
That's actually something that doesn't bother me.  Truth is, society is advancing to a point where entering text will be far more useful than writing it.  That's just a function of societal evolution.  While it's obviously not needed, I'd say that teaching T9 would probably be more useful than teaching cursive. 

Personally, my handwriting is atrocious, and I did learn all of that back when it was important.  I like to communicate very fast, and writing legibly isn't conducive to that.  I haven't had to write in cursive for 25 years, and when I used to, it had evolved into a form of shorthand that might as well have been Arabic to anyone other than me.  If I took my time I could probably write pretty well, but the simple truth is that I can type astonishingly fast and it's readable to anybody and everybody, so why bother.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 14, 2012, 10:04:57 AM
Is it too much to ask that you can do something as simple as calculating the formula weight of Al2(SO4)3, which would be (27*2)+{[32+(16*4)]*3}, without a calculator?  Another example of how far skills have eroded is that I actually had to explain how 1/(1/x) = x, therefore the calculation of g/(g/mol) = mol. 

What?  :lol

I can help you.  Replace Al2 with cans of corn and (SO4) with display space. :lol

There's two Aluminums at 27 each (27*2), and 3 SO4's, so 32 for the Sulphur, and the Oxygens are 16 each, so {[32+(16*4)]*3}.  Add them together.  Basically algebra; it's not ever stoichiometry.

And if they don't understand that taking the reciprocal of a reciprocal gets you the original value back again, that's because they don't teach theory anymore, just rote.  Rote is fine, but it's only the first step.  You still have to teach them to think.

But in the U.S., most teachers suck because they don't get paid worth shit.  It's something you "end up" doing when it should be something you aspire to.  But no one will pay teachers more, because everyone knows that most teachers suck.  Classic Catch-22 situation.

Little in joke with TAC Orbert.  he's a grocery store manager. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on September 14, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Ah, got it.  In that case, you'd want to divide the display space by the volume of cans of corn, not add them together.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
One thing I'll add about the death of penmanship is the indirect death of spelling.  I'm a huge culprit of that.  I've never been a good speller anyway, and now I'm pretty highly dependent on realtime spellchecking.  If I had to write out some of the posts I make here, it'd either take ages for all of the reference time, or be riddled with spelling errors and people would think I was stoopid. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 14, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
Ah, got it.  In that case, you'd want to divide the display space by the volume of cans of corn, not add them together.

Alright, alright.

Read skills in HS 97%
Spelling skills in HS 68%

So your hired as my editor. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 14, 2012, 03:25:32 PM
*you're (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/tongue2.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 14, 2012, 04:42:09 PM
More like "Herp Derp". :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 14, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
Pretty much, yeah. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 14, 2012, 08:31:11 PM
Oh, hello.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on September 14, 2012, 11:16:21 PM
Oh, hello.
Attention peeps, another senior member in the house...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2012, 04:13:31 AM
What's this 6am crap on a day off.  I hate my old body.  It keeps waking me up early on my days off.


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 15, 2012, 04:27:23 AM
What's this 6am crap on a day off.  I hate my old body.  It keeps waking me up early on my days off.
Fuck you, I woke up at 5:30.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2012, 04:33:37 AM
What's this 6am crap on a day off.  I hate my old body.  It keeps waking me up early on my days off.
Fuck you, I woke up at 5:30.

 :lol  Well I was up, I just laid in bed swearing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 15, 2012, 04:48:28 AM
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/stophammertime.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2012, 05:26:59 AM
Sometimes, a man knows when to hold em and when to fold em.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on September 15, 2012, 07:07:24 AM
6am here, on a Sayurday, in the middle of my vacation. I feel you guys. *raises fist in solidarity*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2012, 08:42:56 AM
6am here, on a Sayurday, in the middle of my vacation. I feel you guys. *raises fist in solidarity* But first the bladder calls

FTFY :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on September 15, 2012, 08:47:55 AM
No shit man.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2012, 08:49:58 AM
No shit man.

That's what comes after breakfast. :lol

Well off to get some fine beers for tailgating at the Pats game tomorrow against the Cardinals. :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on September 15, 2012, 08:54:59 AM
Right on, gonna cook up some biscuits and gravy and settle into watching Cal get their asses handed to them by Ohio St.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on September 15, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
I was up at 6:30 this morning, but only because my wife woke me up getting dressed to take my daughter somewhere.  I do usually get up by 7:00 or 7:30 anyway to hit the bathroom, but what I do is I go ahead and eat breakfast, watch the news, then go back to bed.  With some food in my belly and biological functions taken care of, I can sleep some more.

After I went back to bed, I slept until 1:00 this afternoon.  Yeah, baby!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2012, 01:39:26 PM
Jealous!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 15, 2012, 03:44:07 PM
Went to bed after 8am, woke up about an hour ago. :lhk:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 16, 2012, 08:42:32 PM
Jealous!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on October 18, 2012, 08:48:00 AM
had a rough couple of nights sleep, took a SleepMD last night , this shit is the devils pill, Dream were crazy and lucid as shit, I feel like I can fall asleep again any second, but don't think my boss would enjoy the snoring coming from my desk
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on October 18, 2012, 08:55:56 AM
had a rough couple of nights sleep, took a SleepMD last night , this shit is the devils pill, Dream were crazy and lucid as shit, I feel like I can fall asleep again any second, but don't think my boss would enjoy the snoring coming from my desk
You ever try the melatonin?  That's what you were interested in a while back. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on October 18, 2012, 09:09:28 AM
tried Melatonin worked for a bit, but didn't keep me asleep, still woke up throughout the night

Falling asleep isnt my problem, its staying asleep.  Had sleep studies done a few years ago.

Found I have moderate/severe sleep apnea. They said surgery wasn't an option, wanted to fit me with a C-Pap mask, but hated it during the study, I am a side sleeper and kept knocking the mask off when i rolled to either side

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 18, 2012, 09:44:56 AM
Priceless seeing Obscure's name in the title of this thread....how is someone not dead over that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on October 18, 2012, 09:46:27 AM
 :-* :-* :-* :eyebrows:  :-*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 18, 2012, 10:36:24 AM
tried Melatonin worked for a bit, but didn't keep me asleep, still woke up throughout the night

Falling asleep isnt my problem, its staying asleep.  Had sleep studies done a few years ago.

Found I have moderate/severe sleep apnea. They said surgery wasn't an option, wanted to fit me with a C-Pap mask, but hated it during the study, I am a side sleeper and kept knocking the mask off when i rolled to either side

I have a C-Pap machine as well and I am a stomach sleeper.  it took me a while to figure out a good position but the mask is worth it.  I would give it another shot and it might take you a bit but you've got to try.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 18, 2012, 11:47:43 AM
So, I torqued my neck in my sleep somehow yesterday.  Still frickin hurts like a sumbitch, but at least I can turn my neck without almost screaming in pain. :-\

And I remember bouncing back from shit like this in my 20s like it was no big deal. :getoffmylawn:
 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on October 18, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
Tiger Balm is god Deb, just saying.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 18, 2012, 11:51:43 AM
HELL to the yeah on that one, bro. :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Tick on October 18, 2012, 02:13:39 PM
I'm feeling pretty good these days for a 48 year old dude. :tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 19, 2012, 12:40:15 AM
That's because us fogies are Raaawwking the fucking building, Tick!!!  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2012, 01:22:01 AM
Experiencing a fogie moment here guys, as of now, I am the father of a beautiful 19 year old woman. Happy birthday sweetie!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 19, 2012, 04:10:03 AM
Aw. :hug:  Happy birthday, daughterstar! :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2012, 05:23:32 AM
:birthday:

Wait...  :|

Aw fuckit.  Happy birthday to your little lady.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2012, 05:25:36 AM
How time flies RJ. 



So, all this week, no joke, I woke up 5 to 10 minutes before my alarm goes off.  Damn I'm old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Zydar on October 19, 2012, 05:26:02 AM
Happy birthday lonestarlet!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2012, 05:29:30 AM
Zydar forgot to add the tagline :nocreeper:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Zydar on October 19, 2012, 05:38:44 AM
:zydarscouch:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Tick on October 19, 2012, 06:46:40 AM
Experiencing a fogie moment here guys, as of now, I am the father of a beautiful 19 year old woman. Happy birthday sweetie!!!!
Damn! You must feel even older than me! My daughter just turned 12!

Fogie! Fogie! Fogie!

OLD AS MOLD! OLD AS MOLD! OLD AS MOLD!!! :metal :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: njdtfan on October 19, 2012, 06:50:39 AM
and older than this 45 year old whose twin sons are 6. RAAAAAAAAWKKK on dudes :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on October 19, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
Happy birthday Alora  :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2012, 07:46:56 AM
Thanks for the well wishes guys!!!! Love that little girl!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: njdtfan on October 19, 2012, 08:01:56 AM
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on October 19, 2012, 08:10:37 AM
Lonestar I can relate

My oldest just started college

Middle one is a junior in high school

Youngest will be graduating middle school this year

3 teenage boys all with inflated egos and who think Dad doesn't have a clue, just when they think they are getting over I knock them down a few pegs
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on October 19, 2012, 01:54:21 PM
I'm feeling pretty good these days for a 48 year old dude. :tick:
Damn you're old..... :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Tick on October 19, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
I'm feeling pretty good these days for a 48 year old dude. :tick:
Damn you're old..... :hat
I know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 19, 2012, 02:39:57 PM
Zydar forgot to add the tagline :nocreeper:

 :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 21, 2012, 01:51:33 AM
ok.. this should be the thread..... let's do this...

I've been suffering from back pain for about 5 years, I have several herniated discs around my neck .. it's not the hernia that causes the pain, though.. it's mainly fibromyalgia that's killing me... the pain starts from my neck and goes all the way down to my lower back... Sometimes it gets better but bitch keeps coming back... yes pun totally intended....

And I've got loads to do this time of the year...  :angry:








and I feel like a grandma :wahhh::wahhh::wahhh::wahhh::wahhh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 21, 2012, 02:05:33 AM
Not so SRS--you should console yourself with the fact that you look NOTHING like a Granny at all. :biggrin:

SRS--did NOT know you have fibro, that really bites. (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/sadface.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 21, 2012, 02:09:52 AM
That first line helped a great deal  :biggrin: :-*

it does :wahhh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 21, 2012, 04:45:31 AM
Sorry to hear/read that Nem...I know a little bit about it, (work in a hospital) and seel a lot of fibromyalgia cases pass by. Hope you get good treatment.   :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 21, 2012, 04:52:08 AM
Thanks luv  :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2012, 05:46:55 AM
Step mom has fibro, so I know how debilitating it can be.  Mrs. Jingle also has tons of ailments that have accumulated over the years.... constant hate of her own body, not liking the feel of her own skin.  So, while I can't relate directly, I surely sympathize.   :sad:

Other than that, I only wish I had a magic potion for you (everyone really).  :setlistscotty:

So not fair!   :angry:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 21, 2012, 05:58:15 AM
^ that helped  :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2012, 07:38:23 AM
I feel ya Nem.

I'm worried about my dad with his MS.  He fell and cracked two ribs.  We got him a cane but he is too stubborn to use it so I'm going to have to be the bully at his next doctors appointment.  His memory is also terrible which scares the hell out of me since he is only 66.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Tick on November 21, 2012, 11:00:11 AM
I feel ya Nem.

In your dreams.


Just going for some comic relief. I pray for a miracle healing for your back, Nem. :heart
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 21, 2012, 11:12:25 AM
I feel ya Nem.

In your dreams.

 :lol :lol



I love you guys :hearts:


king, my dear, hope dad's health improves...  :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Tick on November 21, 2012, 11:22:24 AM


I'm worried about my dad with his MS.  He fell and cracked two ribs.  We got him a cane but he is too stubborn to use it so I'm going to have to be the bully at his next doctors appointment.  His memory is also terrible which scares the hell out of me since he is only 66.
Prayers for your dad, King. My mom is 78 and her memory is really bad. I try and have patience with her now. I used to get aggravated when she repeated things over and over again. I finally realized I was being a jerk and now I take it in stride.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
I feel ya Nem.

In your dreams.

 :lol :lol



I love you guys :hearts:


king, my dear, hope dad's health improves...  :(

Nem, I'm known for curling toes and putting eyeballs in the back of girls heads.  Just sayin' :lol

Thanks you about my dad.  It hurts since my mom passed away over a 1 1/2 ago.  I hurt every time I see him thinking of mom and what he's going through,




I'm worried about my dad with his MS.  He fell and cracked two ribs.  We got him a cane but he is too stubborn to use it so I'm going to have to be the bully at his next doctors appointment.  His memory is also terrible which scares the hell out of me since he is only 66.
Prayers for your dad, King. My mom is 78 and her memory is really bad. I try and have patience with her now. I used to get aggravated when she repeated things over and over again. I finally realized I was being a jerk and now I take it in stride.

I know exactly how you feel.  I'm trying to to be short tempered about it.  It just hurts that he asks the same questions minutes after and I can't have a real conversation with him anymore.  I love my dad and I just tell myself to enjoy every minute with him.  He's too damn young at 66 to go through this.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 22, 2012, 05:02:08 AM
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/sadface.gif)

King... :hug:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 23, 2012, 08:56:17 AM
I feel ya Nem.

In your dreams.

 :lol :lol



I love you guys :hearts:


king, my dear, hope dad's health improves...  :(

Nem, I'm known for curling toes and putting eyeballs in the back of girls heads.  Just sayin' :lol


whoahhahahahhaah  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2012, 09:18:55 AM
Nem, I'm known for curling toes and putting eyeballs in the back of girls heads.  Just sayin' :lol

Sounds like you're the one with the memory issues! Just sayin' ;D


Seriously King, that is way too young for your Dad to be going through. All my best to you, my friend.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
Talk to my wife about that TAC. :lol   

Oh yeah Nem.  *Beats chest like a gorilla*


Thanks so much.  It breaks my heart that my mom just retired for 6 5 months before being diagnosed with lung cancer and they never had the time to enjoy retirement together.  now with my dad's MS and his memory loss is seems unfair that they worked so hard to be where he is right now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: obscure on November 23, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
 :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 23, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
Talk to my wife about that TAC. :lol   


You know, now that I think about it, when we met you guys, The Lovely Mrs. TAC said to me "why did he have to tap the back of her head of she could open her eyes?"

I said' "you don't wanna know!" :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: mike099 on November 30, 2012, 08:51:37 PM
The wife(60) and I(55) have 'sometimers'.  It is kind of scary to walk in a room and wonder what you came in for.

Speaking of old, one of my bucket list items is to see Dream Theater in concert.  I live in Nashville and pretty sure they have not been here, so looks like Atlanta is the likely place. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Progmetty on December 04, 2012, 08:31:34 PM
I hover between age groups and find myself relating to people with a age gap through media of their own times.
Like earlier when I found out Traci Lords is now 44 years old I imagined some peeps here would feel old when they hear about it, especially when you think of what her whole late 80's fiasco was about heh
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on December 05, 2012, 12:55:09 AM
44? No way!  :omg: Always pictured her in her 60's nowadays....geeeze, now I'm REALLY depressed!!  :yeahright
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: splent on January 23, 2013, 06:47:56 PM
So... in 4 months will I be initiated as a member of this club?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2013, 06:48:25 PM
Only if you actually spend some time around here.   :P

Who are you again?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: splent on January 23, 2013, 06:49:54 PM
Only if you actually spend some time around here.   :P

Who are you again?

My name is Forrest Gump.  People call me Forrest Gump.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 18, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
Update: Your Kid's Friends Might Be Psychos

My 15-year-old daughter spent all day yesterday at her friend's house.  Let's call the friend Devo.  My wife said that she was basically "babysitting" Devo because she's been thinking about cutting.  Cutting... what, like cutting class?  No, cutting, and she mimes cutting across the inside of her arm with a knife.  Oh, that kind of cutting.

I happen to know that Devo is much closer to another friend of theirs, Carlie.  Devo and Carlie have known each other since they were five years old, and my daughter came into the picture maybe five years after that.  Devo and Carlie's Facebook pictures refer to each other as BFFs, which has actually been a source of some frustration for my daughter, who regards them both as friends and it hurts her that they clearly regard her as a "lesser" friend.

Anyway, I asked my wife why our daughter is babysitting Devo and not Carlie.  They're BFFs and all that, right?  (And also, they diss my daughter so let them fucking help each other through this.)  It turns out that Carlie was recently admitted to the mental ward of the local hospital.  She's been having "suicidal thoughts".  And now Devo is "thinking" of cutting herself.

HFS, are all high school girls crazy?  I mean, my daughter can be pretty nutty too, but not literally crazy.

I have no idea what the point of this was.  Guess I just needed to vent and share.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 18, 2013, 12:28:07 PM
Maybe her friend just has an Uncontrollable Urge.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 18, 2013, 12:33:03 PM
??
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on February 18, 2013, 12:51:12 PM
Peer pressure man, that shit is a bitch. I just never understood why ´how other people think about you´ could ever get THAT important. When I was that age, I just flunked out. But perhaps it´s easier if you are/were a boy. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 18, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRENoPisFYk

A more serious answer, all teenage girls are crazy. Some just handle it better than others. 

One thing I can tell you for sure is that teenagers getting tossed into loony bins doesn't necessarily mean much. Since all of them are insured, treating mental health issues becomes a highly profitable enterprise. I certainly went to visit a few female friends in "rehab," and none of them really had any problems other than typical teen angst.

One of my first jobs was working for a records management company, and I spent hours a day hiding in the archive reading psych records for a chain of these bogus facilities, and most of the kids they admitted were pretty normal. There probably isn't a kid alive that can't be pigeonholed into at least one axis-1 disorder, and therefore put away for 3 months until the insurance runs out. I suspect the posters you had on your wall when you were a kid would have been sufficient to label you mentally fucked by their fraudulent standards.

Fortunately, towards the end of my job there the FBI came down really hard on the bastards.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 18, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
HFS, are all high school girls crazy?
Yes.  I speak from experience.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: tapsmiled on February 18, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
I'll be 42 in 3 weeks. 

On a side note, ive always wondered: At what age is it proper to stop using the "...and a half" after your age?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 18, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
For guys, age 5.  You're in school now; nobody cares if you're "five and a half" because you're still in kindergarten and that extra half year doesn't mean jack.  All that matters is what grade you're in, and eventually that won't even matter.

For women, no one knows.  They have their own rules and do not share them with us.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 18, 2013, 02:16:38 PM
On a side note, ive always wondered: At what age is it proper to stop using the "...and a half" after your age?
When you start having to do math in your head to get your age in whole numbers. That started for me a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 18, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
No matter how shitty my day was as a kid, those kinds of thoughts never entered my mind.  It was either, fuck things up, or oh well.  I just had a real shitty day but tomorrow is a new start.  Maybe it's the beer I just cracked that's talking.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: tapsmiled on February 18, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
Well I'm 41 and 94/100ths old dammit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on February 26, 2013, 01:36:13 PM
I'm 38...and a half.

Yesterday morning a spider terrified me in the shower and I jumped back and screamed. Turns out it was navel lint and hair that balled up and washed down to sit on the bottom of the tub and LOOK like a killer death spider, but was in fact NOT a killer death spider.

:spider:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Hyperplex on February 26, 2013, 01:58:06 PM
I've been a member of this club for just less than a year and I just now feel I'm in a career that will help me flourish. I'm finally being more than fairly compensated and it has made all the difference in the world in how I view my professional life.

/random interjection from out of nowhere
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on February 26, 2013, 02:03:43 PM
Still in the "honeymoon" phase, eh bud? ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 26, 2013, 02:10:22 PM
For guys, age 5.  You're in school now; nobody cares if you're "five and a half" because you're still in kindergarten and that extra half year doesn't mean jack.  All that matters is what grade you're in, and eventually that won't even matter.

For women, no one knows.  They have their own rules and do not share them with us.

It still confuses me when someone says their kid is (for example) 14 months.  No, your kid is 1.  23 months?  Still 1.  25 months?  Your kid is 2.  Unless, of course, people wouldn't find it odd when I tell them I'm 449 months.  In fact, maybe I should start doing that...

Seriously though, why is it so important to people how many months old a baby is (especially after they turn 1) and why is there some arbitrary line somewhere, wherein people stop caring about months old and convert to years old?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 26, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
I think it's because they're still changing quite a bit at the age, and there can be a lot of difference between, say, 11 months and 23 months.  If the kid is 11 months, you might be tempted to round up to 1 year.  Okay, the kid is a year old.  If by your logic the kid isn't 2 yet when he's 23 months old, then he's still only 1 year old.  You run into the same friends you saw a year ago, tell them the kid is 1 year old and they go "Holy shit! Still only a year old?  He looks so much bigger!"  And he's actually over twice as old as he was the last time they saw him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 26, 2013, 07:49:27 PM
You know your old when a band you want to see is playing on a weeknight and it factors if you see them or not. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: slycordinator on February 26, 2013, 11:10:46 PM
Age of kids get confusing when you take culture into context. Like this Korean Chiropractor at the office said there they are counted as age 1 when born then on new year's they get another year (as opposed to on their birthday). So a kid born on new year's eve at 11:59 is 2, one minute later. WTF?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 27, 2013, 08:28:33 AM
You know your old when a band you want to see is playing on a weeknight and it factors if you see them or not. :lol
Or the Patriots on MNF.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2013, 09:18:57 AM
You know your old when a band you want to see is playing on a weeknight and it factors if you see them or not. :lol
Or the Patriots on MNF.  :lol

You bastard!! :lol

Sucks getting up at 5:00am to go to work.  I'm training a guy as my back up here so I can loosen up that schedule. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 27, 2013, 10:25:36 AM
You know your old when a band you want to see is playing on a weeknight and it factors if you see them or not. :lol
Or the Patriots on MNF.  :lol

You bastard!! :lol

Sucks getting up at 5:00am to go to work.  I'm training a guy as my back up here so I can loosen up that schedule. :lol
After seeing how miserable the trip out of Foxboro is, I honestly can't say that I blame you. They really need to do something about that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
And I'm an hour and a half out.  It seems that they want to control to much when it comes to the infrastructure.  To have a big parking lot with only one exit and one lane is absurd.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Beowulf on February 27, 2013, 02:13:06 PM
Well, i'm not sure if I should be a part of this group.  I mean, I am only 521 months old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 27, 2013, 02:46:11 PM
Shouldn't the thread title be changed to 40 & Over?  30's ain't that old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: eric42434224 on February 27, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
43 here
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: lonestar on February 27, 2013, 05:15:57 PM
43 here
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
45 in two weeks.  Where the hell did the years go?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on February 28, 2013, 12:34:51 AM
47...going on 48....goddamn!  :yeahright
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Beowulf on February 28, 2013, 08:23:25 AM
43 and going to be single again for the first time in this millenium.  For the first time in about 20 years.  I'm a-scared.  I'm too old for this shit.  Maybe I'll just stick with the online pr0n.  At least it doesn't talk back...  unless I want it to.   ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Tick on February 28, 2013, 12:29:37 PM
Shouldn't the thread title be changed to 40 & Over?  30's ain't that old.
It felt like it was when I got there. Certainly not anymore.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 05, 2013, 11:56:13 AM
Any of you live far enough away from the rest of your family that you sometimes feel like you're kinda "out of sight, out of mind"?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on March 05, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Any of you live far enough away from the rest of your family that you sometimes feel like you're kinda "out of sight, out of mind"?
Kinda the opposite, for me. I tend to worry about my moms a bit more, since I'll often not speak with her for a few weeks at a time. As for the rest of my family, the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. As I get older, I find I enjoy family gatherings less and less. Birthday/holiday phone calls are better than big gettogethers.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 05, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
I get that and the second I was old enough and capable of getting away and being on my own, I did.  Not because I didn't want to be around my family, I just wanted the independence to call my own shots.  We got along fine then and now.  When we go visit them in VA for Christmas, we all get along fine, for the most part.  I just have seemed to notice lately that if there's ever any contact with the bubble that they all live in down in VA, I'm the one who makes contact.  If there are visits to be made, it's me, Mrs. C., and Jr. Mrs. C. going there.  There are members of my family I have almost begged to come here to visit and hang out that just don't seem to have any interest.  Some have very rarely made the opportunity.  My mom and dad have been pretty good about coming up every once in a while.  I just start to feel like if I didn't make 99% of the effort, I'd never hear from them or see them.  Just about the only time I ever hear from someone is when something is wrong.  And I understand that everyone has their lives to lead and their limitations

The other thing - the big thing I'm wrestling with today - I sometimes question whether or not any of them realize that Mrs. C. has brought her son along with us when we come to visit, as he's pretty much ignored.  Fortunately my brother has kids he can play with.  Being blood, everybody engages and/or pays attention to them.  Thing is, I'm not sure they even realize they're being this way towards Jr.

Anyway, she, as any mother would, has taken painstaking notice of how little interest anyone there has in him.  The boy turns 13 today.  A big deal.  All of them know it, because I've spoken to my brother and my sister in the last couple of days about other things and have told them it's his 13th birthday today.  I'm holding out hope that SOMEBODY down there in VA will pull their head out of their ass and make a phone call or something, anything.  Mrs. C. posted a nice bit on Facebook early this morning about being the mother of a teenager, with a pic of him as a baby and one of him from this past weekend.  There were a number of likes and responses from friends and people on her side of the family.  My side?

*crickets*

Not one "like" or comment or anything.  8 members of my family are friends with her on Facebook and so far, not a single one of them has made an attempt to even click "like".  I know that "Hey, it's Facebook, don't take it so seriously."  It sounds petty, of course (You didn't "Like" my post!  Waaahhh!), but it really isn't intended that way.  To me, making a simple little effort like that is an indication that you acknowledge someone, that you haven't forgotten or dismissed them.

I did hear from my mother yesterday, AFTER I called to remind her that she was preparing to miss Jr's birthday yet again.  I got the usual "Oh, no!  But, but, I have it written in there in the back of the phone book, with all the other birthdays, how could I forget?"  This is one of those old personal phone/address books that you write peoples' info in that they've had for probably 15 years.  It comes as no surprise that she wouldn't remember something she wrote in the back of it.  So anyway, at least she made an effort after I mentioned it.  Again, the day isn't over, so I could very likely well be pleasantly surprised if someone makes some kind of effort this evening.  However, I won't really hold my breath.  Like I said, having made the choice to live 5 hours away, we're out of sight, out of mind.  Except that Jr. seems to be out of mind, regardless.  On Thursday, I will be calling my brother's daughter (turning 7, I think) to wish her happy birthday, as I do every other year, as I do with both of his other kids, and for both of my sister's kids.  And they're adults now.  I guess I just don't get where the disconnect is that others can't seem to have the same kind of consideration.

Part of the conflict is that you can't go telling people "Hey, whether you realize it or not, I'm paying attention and you pretty much ignore Jr. at every opportunity."  Because then they'll go out of their way not to and you'll know it's never 100% genuine.

So I'm just kinda bummed today.  It hurts Mrs. C.'s feelings that nobody in my family ever seems to pay the slightest bit of attention to her kid and are often somewhat dismissive of him.  She wants very much for my family to embrace him like they might their own, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.  I hate to see her upset about it, but there's no nice way to tell people that they're being borderline rude, without them putting on a show about it afterwards.  However, the longer this goes on and the more I feel like I'm the one who makes most of the effort, the less I start to care about what I say and who I upset.

I'm really just ranting out loud at this point.  Seemingly not much I can do or say to them about it without coming off looking like I'm out for a pity party.  I just throw my hands up sometimes without the slightest clue as to what to do.  It sucks.  I really hope that someone pulls through and makes me proud of them tonight.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on March 05, 2013, 02:20:18 PM
I'll give you my philosophy on such things. A lot of my extended family is, let's say, self-centered. As the youngest of my family, they tend to reach out to me a little more than the others, but not a whole lot. This has caused some hurt feelings here and there from my mom, who tends to notice such things. Myself, pragmatic bastard that I am, adopted a simple attitude towards this: people are what they are, and there's no use getting worked up about it. Some people are good about birthdays. Some people are good about including in-laws/step children. Some people suck at both. Myself, I just accept that despite their good qualities, some of my relatives are also assholes in other areas. At that point, you evaluate how big a problem it actually is for you. Personally, I can accept that sometimes they're selfish or absentminded, just like I could accept if they're feeble-minded or born with 4 toes per foot.  If it's so serious that you can't overlook it, which is perfectly understandable for some people, then cut your losses and remove the problem from your life.

Since this is your mom we're talking about, and I don't gather it's a big enough problem that you're going to write her off, I'd tell your family what I tell my mom. Some people can't help being thoughtless sometimes, and you shouldn't take it personally. That's just one area where she sucks, and which y'all are better people.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 05, 2013, 02:25:23 PM
That's all very sensible, actually.  I may have misrepresented - my mom and dad are usually more likely to at least pay attention to the boy, my mom is just forgetful.  It's the fact that most everyone else doesn't seem to realize the boy even exists and I am the middle man.  He isn't my child, but I do care about him.  She's hurt because it's her child, but it's my family who is kinda the problem.  It's a lot more difficult to get her to see "They're nice people, but you have to accept that they're broken in a lot of ways that maybe we aren't."  However, that IS very good advice.  It seems so obvious.  Did it take you a long time to kinda come to terms with that way of thinking?  It seems like it would take she or I a while to get used to seeing things that way.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2013, 02:27:45 PM
In this day and age Coz, people seem to put themselves first.  Sad to say.  I've seen what it has done to my nephew and neice.  Hell, my nephew relapsed while living with us.  He may not like the attention he's getting now but no one had the stones to do anything for this kid.  Now he may not like what I have to say but I will straight shoot with him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on March 05, 2013, 03:13:17 PM
It's just not in my nature to take things personally unless they're intentionally directed at me. Seems like most people can't compartmentalize like that. If somebody wrongs me, I look at it to see if they did it to spite me, or if they're just selfish and thoughtless in general. Almost always it turns out to be the latter. This is something that afflicts everybody, so I don't generally hold it against them unless it's really out of hand. I'm a pretty selfish guy myself, but I recognize this and make an effort to be considerate to others.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2013, 03:56:19 PM
We all are a bit selfish, but in Coz's case, if they don't want to go to the party, send a card, or call.  Doesn't take much.  When you don;t acknowledge it leads to bruised feelings.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 05, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Well, like I said, they live 5 hours away, but at least acknowledge it with a call or an email or a message or something. Just something to say "hey, I thought about you". But yeah, it probably is a matter of everybody just being kind of wrapped up in their own world. Which I do understand. To a point.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bosk1 on March 05, 2013, 04:28:55 PM
Well, shoot.  I was going to try to find you on Facebook, hoping you would have tagged Jr. as family so I could send a stealth happy birthday message.  But unfortunately, I can't seem to find you by entering your name and state.  :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 05, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
:lol  Well, admittedly, that's by design that it's hard to find me. Jr. doesn't have an account though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bosk1 on March 05, 2013, 04:43:03 PM
:lol  Well, admittedly, that's by design that it's hard to find me. Jr. doesn't have an account though.

Actually, not has hard to find as you might think.  I figured it out.  Just took me a bit longer, and I had to try different combinations of key words plus parts of actual name.  (And if that didn't work, I was going to just try Ace Frehley with your name and see what happened)

But since he doesn't have an account, tell him DTF sends their birthday wishes.  (I would just PM Mrs. Cozmo, but since she has no idea who I am, she'd probably think it was more creepy than cool, so...yeah :lol )
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
So I should go on Facebook and friend, "Floyd Rose" then?! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bosk1 on March 06, 2013, 02:46:04 PM
I was just pining away for the kind of good, wholesome entertainment we used to have around in the "good ole' days" that seems to have all but vanished now.  Back when men were men, and heroes were heroes.  You fellow fogies know what I'm talking about:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti0hvzbt-2E
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 06, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
When my dad would tell me who would win and I couldn't figure out why my dad was so smart and could figure these things out!




Until I got older and then saw that Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka faced of against Al.  The 300 pound, balding, pale, single strap leotard wearing wrestler was his opponent.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 11, 2014, 05:44:47 AM
New fogey fact: my favorite current cereal is Fiber One Nutty Clusters & Almonds.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 11, 2014, 06:26:58 AM
Guess this could go here... I nearly blew my knee out last week clearing snow off my van.  How is that possible you ask?  I planted my foot a little too close to the driver's side front tire as I reached across the windshield to brush the snow off.  As I leaned, my kneecap rammed right in to the top of the tire, and my knee buckled a little.  Probably stretched the ligaments a little, as I was hobbling around for a couple of days.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 11, 2014, 06:38:26 AM
That's no good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 11, 2014, 06:40:06 AM
That's no good.

I read that as "That snow good"

Pun level:  Josh.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 11, 2014, 07:05:31 AM
Over 30 Club... Interesting. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2014, 07:08:53 AM
Didn't know there was a thread devoted to fogeys - better own up and join the good taste club  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2014, 07:10:10 AM
Yeah, it's been a while.  But you know how it is.  You get older, you slow down...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 11, 2014, 07:20:51 AM
Yeah, it's been a while.  But you know how it is.  You get older, you slow down...

I think the membership requirement should be pushed up to 40 now.  When we started this thread (and it's predecessor on the pre-crash board), there weren't many over 40.  Time has passed, and we're all still here.

30 something's are just wannabe fogeys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2014, 07:26:47 AM
Cool..................I have about 10 or 11 weeks left as a non fogey then.  Better make the most of it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2014, 08:25:14 AM
Guess this could go here... I nearly blew my knee out last week clearing snow off my van.  How is that possible you ask?  I planted my foot a little too close to the driver's side front tire as I reached across the windshield to brush the snow off.  As I leaned, my kneecap rammed right in to the top of the tire, and my knee buckled a little.  Probably stretched the ligaments a little, as I was hobbling around for a couple of days.

Damn.

I've been putting off going to the Doc's for a ligament issue in the back of my left knee. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 11, 2014, 08:48:47 AM
what does one do when he goes to three different doctors, gets three different MRIs, and gets three different responses?  Not give a fuck, that's what!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2014, 08:50:01 AM
Drink the pain away.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 11, 2014, 09:24:52 AM
Drink the pain away.

That has been working so far.  The vicodin ran out but the scotch works just fine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2014, 10:51:18 AM
Yeah, it's been a while.  But you know how it is.  You get older, you slow down...

I think the membership requirement should be pushed up to 40 now.  When we started this thread (and it's predecessor on the pre-crash board), there weren't many over 40.  Time has passed, and we're all still here.

30 something's are just wannabe fogeys.

Yeah, everyone I know in their 30's is a punk.  Present company excepted, of course.

"Punk" isn't an age; it's a status.  If you're in your 30's and still aren't as cool as you hoped you'd be when you grew up, you're a punk.

You punks, get off my lawn!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: rickhawk80 on January 11, 2014, 11:32:46 AM
Ahhhh .... I have found my people!!  Another member of the fortysomething club here.  Old enough to remember KISS shows with all original members the first time, Joe Satriani with long hair, Zakk Wylde as a baby-faced Jersey guitar wizard, and Bon Jovi as an opening act for Ratt .... and I've even already made an old guy post about the cost of ticket prices these days ("back in my day....").

I feel safe with you people here.   :coolio
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on January 11, 2014, 11:39:22 AM
Yup, yup, still alive!  :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: eric42434224 on January 11, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
44 here
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on January 11, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
30 something's are just wannabe fogeys.

I'm almost 33 and have been working as a delivery driver for years.  I feel like a fogey.  Does that count?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on January 11, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
Ahhhh .... I have found my people!!  Another member of the fortysomething club here.  Old enough to remember KISS shows with all original members the first time, Joe Satriani with long hair, Zakk Wylde as a baby-faced Jersey guitar wizard, and Bon Jovi as an opening act for Ratt .... and I've even already made an old guy post about the cost of ticket prices these days ("back in my day....").

I feel safe with you people here.   :coolio
I remember that tour. Bon Jovi sucked even back then.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: The King in Crimson on January 11, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
Yeah, it's been a while.  But you know how it is.  You get older, you slow down...

I think the membership requirement should be pushed up to 40 now.  When we started this thread (and it's predecessor on the pre-crash board), there weren't many over 40.  Time has passed, and we're all still here.

30 something's are just wannabe fogeys.

Yeah, everyone I know in their 30's is a punk.  Present company excepted, of course.

"Punk" isn't an age; it's a status.  If you're in your 30's and still aren't as cool as you hoped you'd be when you grew up, you're a punk.

You punks, get off my lawn!
Do I count as a fogey if I never expected to be cool when I got older? :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
I'm not sure.  There's probably some kind of similar definition.  Just as "punk" is more about status and attitude, so is "fogey" to me.  "Fogeys" aren't just old, they're the old guys who bitch about how things are nowadays, how things were better/worse/whatever in the old days, how kids today don't understand/appreciate things, etc.

That's how I see it, anyway.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Neon on January 12, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
So wait...I'm 33....does that mean I still can't be a part of the club?  Bah you guys keep changing the rules.  It's not fair.   :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Neon on January 12, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
Also, my friend and I went to go see our other friend's band play the other night.  We all went to high school together.  The band that opened up consists of members that were apparently in some ska band in the 90s.  (I was always a metal head/prog nerd so I never really liked punk or ska, but I've since developed an appreciation for both).  Anyway, this band that was on stage invited some "old friends" up with them, and next thing I know there's ska music playing and someone started "skanking." 

And in that moment, it occurred to me:  "Everyone at this show is at least 30."  My friend and the bartender started cracking up.  And you know what?  It was really nice to not be the old chick at a show for once- something that I have noticed happening a lot more these days. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2014, 06:18:21 PM
You're welcome to join.  Females are always welcome.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Neon on January 12, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
Thanks.

But everyone knows there's no such thing as chicks on the internet.    :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 12, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
We fogeys make and change the rules however we see fit.  But Bob's right, we'll take any female over 20.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: tapsmiled on January 12, 2014, 09:43:56 PM
43 in March and a proud member of the Old Fogey Club. I had long hair 20 years ago, and now I'm happy that the bald look is acceptable since years ago when my hair started to thin, I looked like a cancer patient and stood out like a sore thumb.

I will most definitely be a crotchety old bastard.  I have zero tolerance for kids these days, and I can't stand the "It's our time" mentality of young people today. You have to earn your time; it's not an entitlement. 

Okay, scratch "will be" from that last part and substitute "am".  Thanks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Cyclopssss on January 13, 2014, 05:15:39 AM
Well I can always say: ´I was a Punk before you were a Punk. Or a Metalfan. Or a Rocker. Or a Mod. Or a Beatle.


 :justjen


Jesus.....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: rickhawk80 on January 13, 2014, 05:17:03 AM
As I bumper sticker I saw recently put it, "I may be old but I got to see all the cool bands."   :coolio
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 13, 2014, 05:30:26 AM
As I bumper sticker I saw recently put it, "I may be old but I got to see all the cool bands."   :coolio

 :tup :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 13, 2014, 05:36:40 AM
I'm so old, I don't care if people see me pick my wedgie in public.  Take me as I am baby!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Arry on January 13, 2014, 05:50:54 AM
I just got Amon Amarth tix. With a seat cause I don't, won't, cant stand for 3 hours anymore...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 13, 2014, 06:47:50 AM
I just got Amon Amarth tix. With a seat cause I don't, won't, cant stand for 3 hours anymore...

Don't forget your hearing aid.   ;)

I'm so old, I don't care if people see me pick my wedgie in public.  Take me as I am baby!

Whatever you say Mr. Petrucci.

Thanks.

But everyone knows there's no such thing as chicks on the internet.    :P

What do you mean?  My first 37 girlfriends were all supermodels on the internet.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 13, 2014, 06:52:14 AM
I bet they were all shaped like hands.

My picking is sloppy like my underwear.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 11, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
I finally get it.

I was born and grew up in Michigan, and now live just outside Chicago, so midwest winters are a part of life.  It gets cold, it snows a lot, it's inconvenient, but it's also beautiful sometimes.  Whatever you grew up with is "normal" to you.  My parents got a condo in Florida years ago and started spending winters there.  My mom's gone now, but my dad still goes.  He's from Toronto, so he too grew up with cold snowy winters.  Moving to Florida or California or wherever, just to get away from something that's a normal part of life, just seemed like wimping out to me.

But now, I finally get it.  This winter has broken records for snowfall, consecutive subzero days, etc.  I think between being spoiled by a couple of mild winters in a row, and the fact that I'm now over 50 and had that surgery a while back, I've finally gone from "What?  This is normal.  You deal with it." to "Fuck it's cold out.  I think I'll move to Florida when I retire."  This is the first winter where, a couple of times now, I've just plain dreaded the idea of going outside.  I bundle up, I go, because you do what you gotta do, but it's just no fun.  This winter has converted me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 11, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
The older I get, the more south I want to migrate.  I grew up and live now in SoCal, and it's too cold  :lol 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on February 11, 2014, 02:21:30 PM
i'll hit the big "50" this year...feels like only yesterday i was going to clubs or bars every night of the week

I understand the whole age is just a number stufff, but when you hear "snap,crackle,pop" in the morning and it isn't your cereal bowl, you know your getting old
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 11, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
The doc scheduled me for an anal probe next Wednesday but as if that weren't enough he's also ordered an esophageal probe too. Yes, I'll be starring in my first DP film  :o
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 11, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
I had in my late 30's the Colonoscopy & Upper GI Endoscopy at the same time.  I was put out.


 

It was like a pig roast.  Then I woke up groggy and I was fine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Neon on February 11, 2014, 09:08:41 PM
I finally get it.

I was born and grew up in Michigan, and now live just outside Chicago, so midwest winters are a part of life.  It gets cold, it snows a lot, it's inconvenient, but it's also beautiful sometimes.  Whatever you grew up with is "normal" to you.  My parents got a condo in Florida years ago and started spending winters there.  My mom's gone now, but my dad still goes.  He's from Toronto, so he too grew up with cold snowy winters.  Moving to Florida or California or wherever, just to get away from something that's a normal part of life, just seemed like wimping out to me.

But now, I finally get it.  This winter has broken records for snowfall, consecutive subzero days, etc.  I think between being spoiled by a couple of mild winters in a row, and the fact that I'm now over 50 and had that surgery a while back, I've finally gone from "What?  This is normal.  You deal with it." to "Fuck it's cold out.  I think I'll move to Florida when I retire."  This is the first winter where, a couple of times now, I've just plain dreaded the idea of going outside.  I bundle up, I go, because you do what you gotta do, but it's just no fun.  This winter has converted me.

The past few winters have been nothing compared to this- especially last winter- on the east coast I think we got one or two dustings of snow all season- and now this.  I still feel like this winter hasn't been as bad as it was a few years back- I spent 4 winters in PA and I feel like those were the worst 4 winters I ever endured.  But maybe because I lived in a house with a much longer driveway (so, more shoveling was needed) and I had a much longer commute to work in those days...so maybe I was just more aware of it then. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on February 12, 2014, 06:01:43 AM
I remember which winter you are speaking of Neon.  It was a few years ago and it felt like it was snowing almost every day.  I was working on a construction site and because they were running out of places to put the snow finding a parking spot became more and more difficult.  I don't think this year has been as bad as that. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 12, 2014, 11:37:44 AM
This has come up recently in a few threads, so I figured I'd inquire of my fellow old farts. Has anybody actually had any hearing loss more significant than the standard middle age, upper frequency loss from all the concerts we went to? Youngsters are all adamant about ear plugs because DT plays so loud, and while I won't criticize them at all for being cautious about their hearing, compared to us these kids have no idea what loud is; Dream Theater does not play loud. I know last time I had my hearing checked it was perfectly normal for a person of my age, and aside from not draining as well as they could I've got no issues with my ears at all.

Anybody here lament not wearing plugs through the 80's?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: mike099 on February 12, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
As I bumper sticker I saw recently put it, "I may be old but I got to see all the cool bands."   :coolio

Went to an Eagles concert this past fall in Nashville, TN and Don Henley pointed out a guy in the first row wearing a shirt with this saying.  Henley gave the guy a souvenir at the end of the show.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 12, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
This has come up recently in a few threads, so I figured I'd inquire of my fellow old farts. Has anybody actually had any hearing loss more significant than the standard middle age, upper frequency loss from all the concerts we went to? Youngsters are all adamant about ear plugs because DT plays so loud, and while I won't criticize them at all for being cautious about their hearing, compared to us these kids have no idea what loud is; Dream Theater does not play loud. I know last time I had my hearing checked it was perfectly normal for a person of my age, and aside from not draining as well as they could I've got no issues with my ears at all.

Anybody here lament not wearing plugs through the 80's?

You know, I haven't noticed myself be there's been a few shows in my lifetime (Deep Purple 1985) that destroyed my hears for days.  Maybe I just haven't noticed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
My right ear is much worse than my left, which is still in good shape. Not sure why that is. You would think they'd be equal. The only difference is that I have exclusively held the phone to my right ear my entire life.
If I'm in bed, if I lay with my right ear up, I can't hear the TV, but with my left, it's like three times as loud.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 12, 2014, 05:15:37 PM
You know, I haven't noticed myself be there's been a few shows in my lifetime (Deep Purple 1985) that destroyed my hears for days.  Maybe I just haven't noticed.
Did it fuck up your ability to type, as well?  :lol

My right ear is much worse than my left, which is still in good shape. Not sure why that is. You would think they'd be equal. The only difference is that I have exclusively held the phone to my right ear my entire life.
If I'm in bed, if I lay with my right ear up, I can't hear the TV, but with my left, it's like three times as loud.
Close up noises like that can definitely have an effect. I remember my old man never really objected to me listening to loud music in a car or going to rock concerts, but if he could hear my headphones he'd raise hell about it. He'd been an ATC for 15 years and swears that the headphones screwed his hearing up quite a bit.

Like I said, it really seems to be long term exposure that causes most damage. Not the occasional 3 hour rock show. Again, different people are effected differently, and I've got no qualms about people being paranoid about their hearing; more power to them. I've just generally found the concerns to be a bit overblown.


edit: Looks like it didn't fuck up King's ability to proofread (after he hits submit).  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 12, 2014, 06:15:23 PM
 :lol

Nope!  That's a whole separate issue!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 12, 2014, 08:57:55 PM
This has come up recently in a few threads, so I figured I'd inquire of my fellow old farts. Has anybody actually had any hearing loss more significant than the standard middle age, upper frequency loss from all the concerts we went to? Youngsters are all adamant about ear plugs because DT plays so loud, and while I won't criticize them at all for being cautious about their hearing, compared to us these kids have no idea what loud is; Dream Theater does not play loud. I know last time I had my hearing checked it was perfectly normal for a person of my age, and aside from not draining as well as they could I've got no issues with my ears at all.

Anybody here lament not wearing plugs through the 80's?

You know, I haven't noticed myself be there's been a few shows in my lifetime (Deep Purple 1985) that destroyed my hears for days.  Maybe I just haven't noticed.

I've been hitting concerts with some regularity since the late 70s and I certainly think concerts were louder back in the day before noise control ordinances were so strict and I have not noticed any hearing loss even though I've never worn ear plugs.   I can remember concerts in the 80s where I had diminished hearing or ringing ears for DAYS afterward and that hasn't happened in years.  The one exception was a Cult concert in a small venue last fall that didn't seem that loud while we were there, but my friends and I (all old farts) noticed that the hearing was diminished on the long drive home and my ears rang for 2 days afterward.  It kinda freaked us out because that literally has not happened to any of us in decades.

I've tried ear plugs a few times in recent years but I always end up pulling them out because it dampens and modifies the sound too much......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 12, 2014, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: Lemmy Fucking Kilmister
Rock 'n' roll is supposed to be loud. And also, in some deep way which I don't quite understand, it's supposed to be offensive to people who don't like it too loud.

How can you not love Lemmy?  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: slycordinator on February 12, 2014, 10:18:46 PM
The only time I've ever come away from a concert without diminished hearing and ringing was at the ADOTE show and that was because I wore earplugs; when I took them out at some point, it felt uncomfortably loud.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 12, 2014, 10:47:15 PM
The only time I've ever come away from a concert without diminished hearing and ringing was at the ADOTE show and that was because I wore earplugs; when I took them out at some point, it felt uncomfortably loud.
Sure, but that's not what I'm asking. What I'm wondering about is if any of us that were exposed to insanely high SPLs dozens (or in some of our cases hundreds) of times came away from it with any permanent hearing damage. I suspect that all of us that attended metal concerts in the 80's would agree that concerts now 30 years later aren't loud at all in comparison. Yet there seems to be a great deal of concern about DT causing hearing damage.

It raises other interesting points, as well. Rickhawk mentioned noise ordinances having an effect on concert volume. I'm not sure if that's the case, or whether it's just a function of PA technology making such high volumes unnecessary. Aside from concerts being not as loud nowadays, they sound tremendously better than they used to. There's the possibility that they're actually just as loud, but with the sound clarity we're getting it doesn't seem so and causes less ear ringing. I suppose it's possible that it's the opposite, though, and they sound better because they're quieter (although that would discount technological advances that are almost certainly there). It's also possible that bands are making a conscious decision to take it easy on the youngsters.

Another consideration is that there's some speculation that exposure to such SPLs will decrease the effect they have on you over time. In other words, the more times we "had our ears rung," the more it takes to do it again. Don't know if this is the case or not, although I can't come up with any explanation as to why it would be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: chknptpie on February 13, 2014, 06:34:47 AM
I'm pretty sure the loudest concert I ever went to was U2's 360. I remember my ears ringing for a few days after.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 13, 2014, 06:56:25 AM
My right ear is much worse than my left, which is still in good shape. Not sure why that is. You would think they'd be equal. The only difference is that I have exclusively held the phone to my right ear my entire life.
If I'm in bed, if I lay with my right ear up, I can't hear the TV, but with my left, it's like three times as loud.

A snide man would deduce that your wife must sleep to your right.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 13, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
The only time I've ever come away from a concert without diminished hearing and ringing was at the ADOTE show and that was because I wore earplugs; when I took them out at some point, it felt uncomfortably loud.
Sure, but that's not what I'm asking. What I'm wondering about is if any of us that were exposed to insanely high SPLs dozens (or in some of our cases hundreds) of times came away from it with any permanent hearing damage. I suspect that all of us that attended metal concerts in the 80's would agree that concerts now 30 years later aren't loud at all in comparison. Yet there seems to be a great deal of concern about DT causing hearing damage.

It raises other interesting points, as well. Rickhawk mentioned noise ordinances having an effect on concert volume. I'm not sure if that's the case, or whether it's just a function of PA technology making such high volumes unnecessary. Aside from concerts being not as loud nowadays, they sound tremendously better than they used to. There's the possibility that they're actually just as loud, but with the sound clarity we're getting it doesn't seem so and causes less ear ringing. I suppose it's possible that it's the opposite, though, and they sound better because they're quieter (although that would discount technological advances that are almost certainly there). It's also possible that bands are making a conscious decision to take it easy on the youngsters.

Another consideration is that there's some speculation that exposure to such SPLs will decrease the effect they have on you over time. In other words, the more times we "had our ears rung," the more it takes to do it again. Don't know if this is the case or not, although I can't come up with any explanation as to why it would be.

I read once that hearing loss caused by extreme volume is always partially irreversible.  That is, your ears never recover 100% from the damage they take.  Even if you get 99.9% back, there's a cumulative effect over time.  Concerts might be just as loud as they've always been, but they don't seem as loud because your ears are no longer as sensitive as they used to be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 15, 2014, 10:18:11 PM
I've been waiting for the proverbial hammer to drop with regards to hearing loss.  Between concerts, work, and very loud car stereo music for decades, I'm surprised I don't notice much loss.  Another factor for me is exostosis (surfers ear) Between surfing as a kid, and diving as an adult, my canals are getting pretty narrow.   The Doc says I'll probably have to have surgery at some point.  BUT...surprisingly, my hearing has not really decreased.  If anything, the only issue I notice is not as much a volume issue, as a clarity (understanding what was said) issue. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 15, 2014, 10:39:01 PM
Maybe that's how hearing loss manifests itself sometimes.  Maybe it's more clarity than volume.  Just a guess.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on February 15, 2014, 11:33:28 PM
Usually the highs are the first to diminish, which then makes the consonant sounds in words harder to hear.  People might not realize that their hearing is getting bad until they notice that people sound like they're mumbling.

Personally I try to wear earplugs at shows and band practice.  I'd wear them at work but I'm not allowed to since I drive for a living.  My hearing isn't too bad.  Sometimes I wonder how much I've lost since I can't hear my watch ticking when I put it up to my ear, but I can hear a clock from another room clearly   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 16, 2014, 01:15:14 AM
Yeah..that kinda sums it up for me Carl, that more muddled sounding speech.  Hopefully in 20 years when I'm really an old bastard, they'll have some uber hearing aids.... :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2014, 04:35:30 AM
Waking up at 4 am and you feel your full bladder and you fight for 2 hours to get back to sleep.  Getting old is all the rage.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 16, 2014, 05:51:42 AM
... Between surfing as a kid, and diving as an adult, my canals are getting pretty narrow.  ....

And my old guy moment occurred as I misread this to say "driving" rather than "diving" ....  :-\   ......  I was scratching my head thinking, "Why does driving narrow his ear canals??"  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2014, 06:55:13 AM
... Between surfing as a kid, and diving as an adult, my canals are getting pretty narrow.  ....

And my old guy moment occurred as I misread this to say "driving" rather than "diving" ....  :-\   ......  I was scratching my head thinking, "Why does driving narrow his ear canals??"  :lol

+1

I have many of these moments where I mis-read words, and I have to do a double or triple take at what I just read cuz it makes no sense.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 16, 2014, 07:22:55 AM
Waking up at 4 am and you feel your full bladder and you fight for 2 hours to get back to sleep.  Getting old is all the rage.

Yup, that happens to me at least twice per week only it's at 2:30.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: 7deg_inner_happiness on February 16, 2014, 12:40:35 PM
In the winter I check the weather forecast to see which upcoming day will be the WARMEST to pump gas into my car!  I'm either a wimp or old or both!   :loser:

Also too old to care about having an avatar...I also don't care about learning how to make one.

But I guess I'm not too old to love DT.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Neon on February 16, 2014, 04:57:43 PM
In the winter I check the weather forecast to see which upcoming day will be the WARMEST to pump gas into my car!  I'm either a wimp or old or both!   :loser:

Also too old to care about having an avatar...I also don't care about learning how to make one.

But I guess I'm not too old to love DT.

This is one of the great things about living in NJ...I haven't pumped my own gas in a very long time. :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 24, 2014, 07:21:23 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31/1912114_10202144151739819_720736423_o.jpg)

I saw this image this morning and the first thing I thought was, "She needs to bend her knees and get her weight over the balls of her feet." Aaaah, Spring...when a middle-aged man's thoughts turn to golf!

 :facepalm: Fuck, I'm getting old..
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on February 24, 2014, 07:25:01 AM
No, you have it all wrong. She needs to bend over and grab her ankles. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 24, 2014, 08:08:04 AM
No, you have it all wrong. She needs to bend over and grab her ankles.

A younger me would have thought the same thing immediately. Again, the ravages of age...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on February 24, 2014, 08:10:52 AM
If it comes to a point in my life where I choose an insipid sport over pussy, please shoot me. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 24, 2014, 10:44:07 AM
Man if I were home I'd post 2 pictures about your conversation boys that you'd loose your lunch. :lol

I'll post them when I get home!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 24, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31/1912114_10202144151739819_720736423_o.jpg)

I saw this image this morning and the first thing I thought was, "She needs to bend her knees and get her weight over the balls of her feet." Aaaah, Spring...when a middle-aged man's thoughts turn to golf!

 :facepalm: Fuck, I'm getting old..

When I see this I think of this favorite of mine.


(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/ofcourseiloveyou_zps688ee7f9.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/ofcourseiloveyou_zps688ee7f9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 24, 2014, 09:20:50 PM


Also too old to care about having an avatar...I also don't care about learning how to make one.

.

Interesting....  back when PC's first came out in the 80's I was in my 20's and a tech bad ass.  Now?..................

**I can barely operate an iphone. (smartphone)
**I still have no idea of what the Cloud REALLY is and how to use it  :loser:
**Have never joined twitter, and really don't grasp why the hell people dig it?
**Still have, and prefer my land line
**I've used Torrent's before, but like the cloud...WTF are they?? :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2014, 09:34:21 PM
Let's see how I score



Interesting....  back when PC's first came out in the 80's I was in my 20's and a tech bad ass.  Now?..................

**I can barely operate an iphone. (smartphone) ............I have a Nokia 5110 - exactly as pictured -which is mostly flat and not in use, much to my wife's disgust
**I still have no idea of what the Cloud REALLY is and how to use it  :loser: I have a cloud backup but otherwise nought
**Have never joined twitter, and really don't grasp why the hell people dig it? never been on Twitter or Facebook
**Still have, and prefer my land line ditto .
**I've used Torrent's before, but like the cloud...WTF are they?? :lol I was forced to use torrents for the first time for the 2013 DT Christmas gift  ;D

(https://captainflipflops.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/old-nokia-phone.jpg)

Presumably I get a big  :loser:  :facepalm:  too.     ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Orbert on February 24, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
I too finally learned how to torrent in order to get the 2013 DT Christmas tracks.  It was worth it, and much easier than I thought it would be.

I'm on Facebook, but my phone is dumb.  I still prefer it to the land line, though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: carl320 on February 24, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
I've thought about getting a landline.  With my job I'm pretty much always on call and on occasion my cell phone either shuts off at night or just doesn't ring.  There's been a few times where that's almost got me in trouble.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 24, 2014, 10:00:39 PM
I actually make a point to try and stay on top of technology so I don't wind up like the old people we grew up around who couldn't program a VCR. Still, I do find myself falling behind in some areas, mainly those where I'm stubborn and don't want to progress with the rest of society. When I can no longer use XP it'll be a real bummer to move up to whatever the next platform is. My Android is taking a pretty gnarly dump at the moment, but I don't have a clue how to format and reinstall the silly thing so I blow it off. The prospect of owning a car that's more electronic than mechanical really scares the hell out of me. Progress is cool and all, but it's hard work sometimes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 24, 2014, 10:21:50 PM
If you really think about it, those of us 45 or older have seen some serious Tech changes in our lifetime.  It's not surprising we aren't able to stay on the cutting edge knowledge wise.  Plus, we're changing...  Eyes and hearing changing, memory loss, etc...  As long as I can remember my name and don't have to slap on some depends...I'm good! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2014, 10:23:03 PM
I was reading an article the other day on Japanese demographics and apparently there are more adult diapers than childrens diapers sold in Japan  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 24, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
Maybe they're just too lazy to hit the bathroom.... :lol  Otherwise...we're fucking doomed....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: El Barto on February 24, 2014, 10:45:03 PM
Nah, I believe they just lead the world in life expectancy and lowest birth rate since they stopped having children a few years ago. They're a statistical fluke.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 25, 2014, 06:06:28 AM
Nah, I believe they just lead the world in life expectancy and lowest birth rate since they stopped having children a few years ago. They're a statistical fluke.

I believe there may be some fetish involved as well.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2014, 06:07:26 AM
 ;D - maybe the game shows use up half of them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 25, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
I was reading an article the other day on Japanese demographics and apparently there are more adult diapers than childrens diapers sold in Japan  ;D

Maybe they're just too lazy to hit the bathroom.... :lol  Otherwise...we're fucking doomed....

Actually, it's a part of some Asian cultures not to use diapers -- they view it as dirty to have the child sit in their mess.  When I was in mainland China last year I frequently saw kids walking around with crotchless pants so they could just drop a squat at the curb if they needed to go -- seriously.  :(  Supposedly, the kids get "potty trained" faster that way -- but you need to watch where you walk!   :omg: :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 25, 2014, 05:42:16 PM
Parents in China need to bring a kiddy bag then.



Wait....what?!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 25, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
That would be nice but  it didn't happen in place where I witnessed it.   :-\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
I actually make a point to try and stay on top of technology so I don't wind up like the old people we grew up around who couldn't program a VCR. Still, I do find myself falling behind in some areas, mainly those where I'm stubborn and don't want to progress with the rest of society. When I can no longer use XP it'll be a real bummer to move up to whatever the next platform is. My Android is taking a pretty gnarly dump at the moment, but I don't have a clue how to format and reinstall the silly thing so I blow it off. The prospect of owning a car that's more electronic than mechanical really scares the hell out of me. Progress is cool and all, but it's hard work sometimes.

Um..What's an XP? :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 26, 2014, 12:06:08 PM
7 & 8 is the next logical step TAC.


Damn you're old. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
WTF happened to 1-6?  :lol

Yes I'm old. My kids school me on this shit and my 12 year old is a Special Needs kid! :facepalm:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 26, 2014, 12:20:40 PM
I wanno know what happened to 1 thru 94?

I've got a FB account, but I've never used the twitters or instagrams or anything like that.  #wtf-is-a-hashtag-for?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2014, 12:23:13 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. 

DTF is my Facebook.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 26, 2014, 12:29:59 PM
Yeah, I don't like the hashtag stuff either.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 28, 2014, 09:37:23 AM
Yeah.... hash had a completely different meaning back in our day....and I aint talkin corned beef hash.... :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: kirksnosehair on February 28, 2014, 10:09:50 AM
I believe hashtags are meant to facilitate searching but I'm not sure.


Anyway, turned 50 last week, so just checking in here, isn't this the AARP?   #old #overthehill
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 28, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
I believe hashtags are meant to facilitate searching but I'm not sure.


Anyway, turned 50 last week, so just checking in here, isn't this the AARP?   #old #overthehill

You are correct sir. #scheduleacolonosopytheyarepainless
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: wkiml on February 28, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
I believe hashtags are meant to facilitate searching but I'm not sure.


Anyway, turned 50 last week, so just checking in here, isn't this the AARP?   #old #overthehill


I keep getting AARP junk mail at home and kept throwing it out, than it dawned on me I turn 50 this year....now i'm reaching out to them for the discounts 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: 7deg_inner_happiness on February 28, 2014, 01:09:34 PM
I believe hashtags are meant to facilitate searching but I'm not sure.


Anyway, turned 50 last week, so just checking in here, isn't this the AARP?   #old #overthehill


I keep getting AARP junk mail at home and kept throwing it out, than it dawned on me I turn 50 this year....now i'm reaching out to them for the discounts

Mrs. 7deg and I have been throwing out AARP mail for a couple of years now...maybe we're in denial.  Are the discounts worth acknowledging we're over the 1/2 century mark?

....and #whydoweneedhashtagsanywayidontgetitatall
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 28, 2014, 01:39:02 PM


You are correct sir. #scheduleacolonosopytheyarepainless

you might want to look at #newlowvolumeprepsoyoudonthavetoodrinkagallonofcrap
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on February 28, 2014, 01:43:58 PM
#iaskthedoctorificanchaseitwithashotofscotch
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 28, 2014, 01:45:10 PM
The Queen turned 47 this past November and she is receiving mail from AARP already.  Not me yet! :biggrin:

:beerinonehandmanjunkinotheronthecouch:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on February 28, 2014, 01:48:35 PM


You are correct sir. #scheduleacolonosopytheyarepainless

you might want to look at #newlowvolumeprepsoyoudonthavetoodrinkagallonofcrap

If you're drinking a gallon of crap you're doing it in reverse!  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 28, 2014, 03:58:43 PM


If you're drinking a gallon of crap you're doing it in reverse!  :lol

 :lol


I hit 50 last December...still no aarp stuff in the mail   :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
As a Canuck, what is this AARP shit you speak of?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 28, 2014, 05:35:20 PM
In the states, when most people get around 49.5, they mysteriously start getting butt loads of mail from AARP......

from their webpage......



About AARP

AARP is a nonprofit, nonpartisan membership organization for people age 50 and over.

AARP is dedicated to enhancing quality of life for all as we age. We lead positive social change and deliver value to members through information, advocacy and service.

AARP also provides a wide range of unique benefits, special products, and services for our members.

These benefits include AARP Web site at www.aarp.org, "AARP The Magazine," and the monthly "AARP Bulletin."




https://assets.aarp.org/www.aarp.org_/promotions/sem/member01.html?keycode=U8LXS5&packageid=&componentid=&whocalled=promo_enroll&cmp=IVS-KNC-ACQ-PMD-ACQJOIN


 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 04, 2014, 05:45:03 PM
I wish my parents would have told me I'd become a girl and use lotion on my legs, elbows and my big belly when I dry up like a prune in the winter.  You can go to hell old age.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 04, 2014, 05:49:58 PM
I wish my parents would have told me I'd become a girl and use lotion on my legs, elbows and my big belly when I dry up like a prune in the winter.  You can go to hell old age.

ummm...I could have done fine with out that visual..... :|................. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 04, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
Video coming soon.















I kid! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2014, 06:12:16 PM
Gyrate around a bit while rubbing in the oil and send your video to Geoff Tate - you might end up on morning telly  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2014, 06:38:08 PM
I wish my parents would have told me I'd become a girl and use lotion on my legs, elbows and my big belly when I dry up like a prune in the winter.  You can go to hell old age.

Shoulda taken Buffalo Bill's advice.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 04, 2014, 07:00:02 PM
I wish my parents would have told me I'd become a girl and use lotion on my legs, elbows and my big belly when I dry up like a prune in the winter.  You can go to hell old age.

Shoulda taken Buffalo Bill's advice.

I'm skeered to ask......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2014, 07:46:48 PM
I wish my parents would have told me I'd become a girl and use lotion on my legs, elbows and my big belly when I dry up like a prune in the winter.  You can go to hell old age.

Shoulda taken Buffalo Bill's advice.

I'm skeered to ask......

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 04, 2014, 08:08:38 PM
I'll start digging that well in the basement.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 04, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
you...sick...old...fucks..... ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on March 05, 2014, 06:14:14 AM
I'll start digging that well in the basement.

I'll bring the moths.

you...sick...old...fucks..... ;D

That may be true, but now my knees, elbows, belly and bald head are soft and supple!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2014, 06:48:40 AM
That may be true, but now my knees, elbows, belly and bald head are soft and supple!

That's why one should never use lotion while fapping.  "soft and supple" is never a good way to describe your Johnson.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on March 05, 2014, 06:59:26 AM
That may be true, but now my knees, elbows, belly and bald head are soft and supple!

That's why one should never use lotion while fapping.  "soft and supple" is never a good way to describe your Johnson.

I actually thought he was describing his tits.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2014, 07:11:16 AM
Soft, supple and hairy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on March 05, 2014, 07:14:46 AM
I actually thought he was describing his tits.

Pecs, my dear young man, pecs. My chest has not quite gone to seed yet. I'm a good five years and 30 pounds away from having tits.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on March 05, 2014, 07:19:52 AM
Soft, supple and hairy.

Actually, most of the hair on my body has fallen out over the years. Other than a stupid looking halo at about temple level on my noggin, my face and in my fucking ears and nostrils. What the hell? I used to have a nice Connery carpet on my chest and my legs were like Sasquatch's lover but now, hardly shit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Prog Snob on March 05, 2014, 07:23:17 AM
I actually thought he was describing his tits.

Pecs, my dear young man, pecs. My chest has not quite gone to seed yet. I'm a good five years and 30 pounds away from having tits.  :lol

When you bump up to a B-cup, I want photos. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2014, 12:01:57 PM
Soft, supple and hairy.

Actually, most of the hair on my body has fallen out over the years. Other than a stupid looking halo at about temple level on my noggin, my face and in my fucking ears and nostrils. What the hell? I used to have a nice Connery carpet on my chest and my legs were like Sasquatch's lover but now, hardly shit.

Funny you say that, my legs we like gorillas in the late 80's and 90's but the hair on my legs are almost gone.  Old age crap I guess.
 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
Ok you guys are grossing me out! :lol

I'm an AARP member. Actually The Lovely Mrs TAC is, but I get a card by default. We get discounts on stuff!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
I'm looking forward to my coffee discount. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: Podaar on March 05, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
Ok you guys are grossing me out! :lol

Would it eliminate your gag reflex if I shaved this (https://media.graphis.com/uploads/cache/28/b5/28b54eea7d87765d0168b9323963311b.jpg) into my chest hair?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over/A.K.A, Obscure, Lonestar Lovefest!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2014, 01:37:20 PM
Ok you guys are grossing me out! :lol

Would it eliminate your gag reflex if I shaved this (https://media.graphis.com/uploads/cache/28/b5/28b54eea7d87765d0168b9323963311b.jpg) into my chest hair?

I'm afraid to look.


EDIT: Had to peak.
 :omg:
I have admired THAT for about 32 years. DON'T RUIN IT FOR ME!! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 05, 2014, 08:20:07 PM
Ya know...we always joke about AARP...but maybe I need to take a look at some of the benefits they offer.  I might be missing out on free pudding or Ensure!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Podaar on March 06, 2014, 06:25:42 AM
Ya know...we always joke about AARP...but maybe I need to take a look at some of the benefits they offer.  I might be missing out on free pudding or Ensure!

I suppose your right. I understand that (all joking aside) in addition to restaurant and grocery discounts there are some pretty good rates available for term life insurance for those who've never had it. You also get to have a say, albeit a very small portion, on the lobbying agenda for AARP.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: El Barto on March 06, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
Huh. Turns out that my comparatively young ass probably qualifies me for AARP, as well. I'm a CKD patient and I'm paying for Medicare parts A, B and D. Go figure. I'll just have to determine if I would save $16/yr on things I'd actually use.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: splent on March 16, 2014, 05:18:43 PM
Did I ever say I'm in this group now?  I turn 31 next month. 

Orbert since I've last posted I've moved much closer to you, I don't know if I've said that or not. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Orbert on March 16, 2014, 08:56:38 PM
I don't remember you moving up here.  I remember a while back, you were thinking about it.  Where are you now?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: TAC on March 17, 2014, 12:28:15 PM
Did I ever say I'm in this group now? I turn 31 next month. 

Orbert since I've last posted I've moved much closer to you, I don't know if I've said that or not.

Besides age, Forgetfulness is one of the first tests you have to .. um..  pass before you enter the club! :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: splent on March 17, 2014, 06:32:16 PM
I don't remember you moving up here.  I remember a while back, you were thinking about it.  Where are you now?

Hoffman Estates... and I teach in Round Lake now.  So yeah.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Orbert on March 17, 2014, 07:25:21 PM
Yeah, you're closer.  We're in Northbrook.  I taught at Hoffman Estates when we first moved here to Illinois.  Good school, but a tough gig.  I didn't make it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Zook on July 01, 2014, 03:52:27 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 01, 2014, 03:55:12 PM
I have 2 years until I am in this club :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Orbert on July 01, 2014, 04:05:15 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?

Wow, that's a tough one.  You're still short of the age cutoff, but there is the prune corollary.

I think it goes to a tiebreaker.  Are you a hot female?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Zook on July 01, 2014, 04:38:25 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?

Wow, that's a tough one.  You're still short of the age cutoff, but there is the prune corollary.

I think it goes to a tiebreaker.  Are you a hot female?

I can be. :dammitnick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: El Barto on July 01, 2014, 05:46:28 PM
Hey, I thought we were looking to up the age to 40? The only people who find 30 old are all 29.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 01, 2014, 05:51:02 PM
Hey, I thought we were looking to up the age to 40? The only people who find 30 old are all 29.

Agreed.

Got up at 3:35am to drive 1:45 minutes to go help another site in Maine today and got home at 7:15.  I'm feeling it now.  The couch is calling me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?

You're still short

Careful... he takes offense to that.

As for membership, I agree with El Barto.  The fogey club has been upped to 40 as a minimum age requirement.  Go start a mini-fogey club.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Zook on July 01, 2014, 07:00:46 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?

You're still short

Careful... he takes offense to that.

As for membership, I agree with El Barto.  The fogey club has been upped to 40 as a minimum age requirement.  Go start a mini-fogey club.

Will do, cue ball.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2014, 07:04:42 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?

You're still short

Careful... he takes offense to that.

As for membership, I agree with El Barto.  The fogey club has been upped to 40 as a minimum age requirement.  Go start a mini-fogey club.

Will do, cue ball.

It's more like a Ban roll-on stick.  Oh, wait... you're not old enough to get that reference.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Zook on July 01, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
So I'll be 30 next year, but I had to eat prunes this morning so I could poop. Can I join your Fogey Club a year early?

You're still short

Careful... he takes offense to that.

As for membership, I agree with El Barto.  The fogey club has been upped to 40 as a minimum age requirement.  Go start a mini-fogey club.

Will do, cue ball.

It's more like a Ban roll-on stick.  Oh, wait... you're not old enough to get that reference.

With the power of the Google, I am now!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Jaq on July 01, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Aww damn, I'm old enough for the old fogey club?  :o
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: El Barto on July 01, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
Zook isn't even old enough for the mini-thread, so he had to make the cutoff 29. That's fucking choice.  :rollin The 30-40 year olds should commandeer the thread and boot his young ass out til his birthday.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 01, 2014, 07:59:59 PM
 :lol

Make it so.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
Just realised that I can join this club.  :hat

Fuck Zook's thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: El Barto on July 01, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Just realised that I can join this club.  :hat

Fuck Zook's thread.
Yeah, actually you can't. I guess we're waiting on Tick to amend the thread title.

On the bright side, at least you outrank Zook in his own thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Zook on July 01, 2014, 09:01:16 PM
He can't outrank me if he's not invited.

Take that, kangaroo fucker!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2014, 05:19:29 AM
Just realised that I can join this club.  :hat

Fuck Zook's thread.
Yeah, actually you can't. I guess we're waiting on Tick to amend the thread title.

On the bright side, at least you outrank Zook in his own thread.

Why the fuck not, the thread title says so, I'm in, yes?

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2014, 05:20:39 AM
He can't outrank me if he's not invited.

Take that, kangaroo fucker!

(https://forum-s3.pinside.com/201211/490503/53042.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Tick on July 02, 2014, 06:16:38 AM
This is the place real fogies hang. Accept no cheap substitute!

GERITOL!!!!! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: wkiml on July 02, 2014, 09:23:38 AM
hit the half century mark a few weeks ago...officially an AARP member booyah
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Podaar on July 02, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
Could we PLEASE raise the entrance age to 40! Please! I have two children who would currently qualify for this thread  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Orbert on July 02, 2014, 11:09:59 AM
Holy shit, you must really be fucking old!  I mean really, really old!

I didn't realize that you were that old, but now man, I see that you're really, really old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 02, 2014, 12:22:50 PM
Holy shit, you must really be fucking old!  I mean really, really old!

I didn't realize that you were that old, but now man, I see that you're really, really old.

Tell him what you think, what you really, really think......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Podaar on July 02, 2014, 01:36:10 PM
Holy shit, you must really be fucking old!  I mean really, really old!

I didn't realize that you were that old, but now man, I see that you're really, really old.

Not really...I simply started having kids at a very young age.  :biggrin:

But that, in no way, should diminish your pride at delivering such a perfectly scathing put down. Well done!  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Orbert on July 02, 2014, 03:05:35 PM
:tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Podaar on July 02, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
(https://kusleika.com/breakfast/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/old-man-giving-the-middle-finger.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Orbert on July 02, 2014, 03:56:35 PM
(https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/johnny-cash-finger-2.jpg?w=700)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 02, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
The title should be, "The DTF Old As Mold Club. 40 is the new 30!"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Tick on July 02, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
Just realised that I can join this club.  :hat

Fuck Zook's thread.
Yeah, actually you can't. I guess we're waiting on Tick to amend the thread title.

On the bright side, at least you outrank Zook in his own thread.
and just what would that amendment be?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 02, 2014, 04:16:08 PM
See above.


 :lol


Change the admittance age to 40.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2014, 06:39:14 AM
See above.


 :lol


Change the admittance age to 40.

Amen, brother.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club 30&Over v. It's 2014, Old is The New Young!
Post by: Tick on July 03, 2014, 06:49:58 AM
See above.


 :lol


Change the admittance age to 40.

Amen, brother.
(https://fotos.fotoflexer.com/2de4c0eb22d5af15738b5ddae9c8e09e.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 03, 2014, 08:38:01 AM
Can I just join if I tell you that I turn 44 in about 4 weeks or do I have to pass a special fogey test?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 09:09:15 AM
Can I just join if I tell you that I turn 44 in about 4 weeks or do I have to pass a special fogey test?

Well, you're German, so I'm not sure we can give you any Western 70s/80s pop culture questions.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 03, 2014, 09:16:49 AM
Well, apart from East Germany (formerly known as German Democratic Republic or simply Lost Behind The Wall) we had a little bit of culture ourselves  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 03, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
He know's Falco's Der Kommissar and Nena 99 Luft Balloons so he's in.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on July 03, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
He know's Falco's Der Kommissar  so he's in.
But does he know the "After The Fire" version?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 03, 2014, 11:48:34 AM
Oh oh Oh!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 03, 2014, 12:22:26 PM
The After the Fire version is inferior.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 03, 2014, 12:33:56 PM
He know's Falco's Der Kommissar and Nena 99 Luft Balloons so he's in.

Yeah  :metal Nena's album with 99 Luftballons was one of the first tapes  I owned at the age of 13 or 14.

And sure do I know Falco and I although think that the After the Fire version is inferior. And strictly speaking: Falco was from Austria  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 03, 2014, 12:38:00 PM
You say tomato, I say Hefeweizen. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 03, 2014, 12:44:29 PM
As you wish

(https://www.beerhere.co.uk/acatalog/GBG389_Maisels_Weisse_Glass.jpg)

Prost
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 03, 2014, 12:46:16 PM
I just brewed one with my brother 5 weeks ago.  Just about ready.  Hey!  That's and old fogey kind of thing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on July 03, 2014, 12:54:53 PM
The After the Fire version is inferior.
I agree, nothing cool about it. Actually it sucks!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 03, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
You guys just wanna change the age limit so I cannot join. Which I completely understand!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 03, 2014, 01:19:30 PM
I'll give the After the Fire version some credit for breaking the song into the U.S.  I remember the video getting play on MTV, shortly followed by Falco's version which by comparison seemed kinda dry.  But it was the original and actually came first, and the more I listened to Falco's version, the more I appreciated the sparseness of it, which allowed for more subtlety.  Also, the way he slips from German into English and back again effortlessly is pretty cool.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on July 03, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
You guys just wanna change the age limit so I cannot join. Which I completely understand!
Egg Zac Lee! :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on July 03, 2014, 01:41:18 PM
I don't even know about this After the Fire version or whatever der Kommissar is, but the simple fact that he owned things on tapes seems to establish his credentials.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 03, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
This is Falco - Der Kommissar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlW_lDpzyLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlW_lDpzyLw)

I think MC Hammer also has known this song.  :biggrin:

I never was a real fan of Falco's music but he had a certain charme. His rhythmic singing, almost rapping and his mixture of german, austrian dialect (especially vienna) and english and his more or less nonsens lyrics set him apart at the time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
I don't even know about this After the Fire version or whatever der Kommissar is, but the simple fact that he owned things on tapes seems to establish his credentials.

Agreed.  And Rock me Amadeus, ftw!!   :metal :metal

Speaking of tapes, what was everyone's preferred brand for making mixed tapes.  Personally, I was a Maxell XL-II kinda guy.  Only tossed out my 'briefcase' of tapes a few years ago.  Made sure I had everything digitally of course.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 03, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
Personally, I was a Maxell XL-II kinda guy.  Only tossed out my 'briefcase' of tapes a few years ago.  Made sure I had everything digitally of course.

Dude!  :tup  Those tapes were the best!  The TDKs were a good second choice, but I always went with Maxells when I could find them.

(https://s4.mojalbum.com/6450754_14778713_17448297/audio-cassettes/17448297_z.jpg)

I still have all mine.  Drawers and drawers of them.  I'm a media pack rat.

(https://yescincinnati.com/test/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Case.jpg)

Either of these suckers, full (with DYMO labels on the handles so I know what's what).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 03, 2014, 02:38:27 PM
I don't even know about this After the Fire version or whatever der Kommissar is, but the simple fact that he owned things on tapes seems to establish his credentials.

All of my tapes have eroded away.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 03, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
So have mine, for all I know.  I haven't opened any of them in years, but I can't bring myself to toss them, so they sit patiently in their boxes in their drawers.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 03, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
Maxell or TDK for me. I spent hours and hours putting together mix tapes, I even designed covers.
Somehow I miss that. Putting together a playlist or burning a cd isn't the same.
My tapes went the way of all things past some ten years ago when my tape deck broke
and I decieded not to buy another one.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 03, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
My dad paid $900.00 in the 80's for the first on screen programmable VCR.  You can buy excellent Blu Ray players for $200!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
Yeah, TDK's were the next best option.  Remember when the VCR+ codes were in the TV Guide?  :lol

TV Guide.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on July 03, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
I know I used a lot of the SA-90s, and whatever the equivalent metal version Sony made. I remember having to switch because as the tape got longer it also got thinner and had a tendency to break. I recall that they started making 110s, which were great for copying albums onto (I was never a mix tape kinda guy), but those would definitely break on you.

I also threw out my briefcase a while back. I recall that I found a bag full of roaches in it since that case was also my traveling stashbox. I learned that cops would dump out all of your tapes to be dicks, but they wouldn't go box by box looking for stash, nor would they actually search the case itself.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 04:01:47 PM
I remember when they tried making those 100s or 110s... they always snapped.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 03, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
You know, I heard about that a lot, but I never had that problem with higher-capacity tapes.  Before the 100's and 110's, there were 120's (the next logical step up from 60's and 90's) and I had some of those.  My problem was that the thinner tape was more prone to jamming the tape deck in my car.  But I never had breakage issues.  Auto-stop and auto-reverse in both my home and car decks for the win.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on July 03, 2014, 04:13:12 PM
I lived to make mixed tapes! Especially making them for a girlfriend!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2014, 04:13:34 PM
I would generally use whatever at home but for trading, it was only Maxell XL II or TDK SA's.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 04:29:24 PM
I lived to make mixed tapes! Especially making them for a girlfriend!

Didn't we all?  :biggrin:  There are still songs to this day I expect not to hear the last few seconds of, because in trying to time that 47-ish minutes of songs perfectly, I invariably went a bit too long.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 03, 2014, 04:31:40 PM
To this day, there are certain songs where, when it gets to the end of the song, there's another song I expect to hear next because they were back-to-back on a mix tape years ago.

I lived to make mixed tapes! Especially making them for a girlfriend!

Nothing says "I Love You" like a mix tape.  CD-Rs and playlists are fun but just not the same.  To make a mix tape, you had to actually sit there and make the tape in real time, which meant at least a few hours for a 90-minute tape.  The planning, the editing, and of course the artwork for the cover.

I made mix tapes for a lot of my friends (only some of whom I loved) and just gave them away.  I considered myself a cultural ambassador for good music.
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Post by: Zook on July 03, 2014, 05:08:27 PM
I made mix tapes too, guys.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
Not as good as we did.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 03, 2014, 06:12:55 PM

I made mix tapes for a lot of my friends (only some of whom I loved) and just gave them away.  I considered myself a cultural ambassador for good music.

I can relate to that (and the whole discussion) - in honour of the great Sir Les Patterson I'll call myself the Australian Cultural Attache of Rock and Metal .  Note the package.

(https://sirlespatterson.com/images/2008/01/18/20080118c.jpg)

And here's a few old tapes I still have

(https://i62.tinypic.com/dyu7ox.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Let's see if we can name them all:

Starting with Row 1
New Jersey
Keep the Faith
7800 Farenheit
Coverdale/Page
Pyromania

Row 2
Retroactive
Brothers in Arms
Eat 'em and Smile
A Lil Ain't Enough
Skyscraper
Damn Yankees
Out of this World

Row 3
Prisoners in Paradis
3 Sides to Every Story
Twice Shy
Killers
Alive III
Crazy Nights
Hot in the Shade
<dunno the Lynch Mob one>

Row 4
Marching Out
Rising Force
Shout at the Devil
No More Tears
<I'm ashamed I don't know more of the Ozzy ones  :blush>

Row 5
Native Tongue
Open up and Say ... Ahh!
A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Rage for Order
Crazy World
<handful of Savatage - I don't know them to see them, but have all the albums>
Flying in a Blue Dream
Surfing with the Alien

Row 6
Slave to the Grind
0U812
Right Here, Right Now
Diver Down
FUCK
1984
5150
Passion and Warfare

Row 7
Slip of the Tongue
Whitesnake
Pull
Dirty, Rotten, Filthy, Stinking, Rich

There's a few more in there I recognize, but they're just on the tip of my tongue.

That was fun.  Who can fill in the blanks?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 04, 2014, 12:58:29 AM
From the back of my head (my additional guesses in Italics):

Starting with Row 1
Never Neverland
?
?
New Jersey
Keep the Faith
7800 Farenheit
Into The Fire
?
Coverdale/Page
Pyromania High ‘n Dry

Row 2
Beast From The East
Retroactive
Brothers in Arms
Eat 'em and Smile
A Lil Ain't Enough
Skyscraper
Damn Yankees
Slaves And Masters
?
Out of this World

Row 3
Prisoners in Paradis
3 Sides to Every Story
?
Twice Shy
Painkiller
Guitar Shop
Killers
Alive III
Crazy Nights
Hot in the Shade
Wicked Sensation

Row 4
?
Marching Out
Rising Force
Fire & Ice
Shout at the Devil
?
?
No More Tears
No Rest For The Wicked
?
Bark At The Moon
The Ultimate Sin
?

Row 5
Native Tongue
Open up and Say ... Ahh!
A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Rage for Order
?
Crazy World
Power Of The Night
Gutter Ballett
Hall Of The Mountain King
Streets
Flying in a Blue Dream
Surfing with the Alien
The Extremist

Row 6
?
Slave to the Grind
?
0U812
Right Here, Right Now
Van Halen II
Diver Down
FUCK
1984
Women And Children First/Fair Warning
5150
Passion and Warfare
Saints And Sinners

Row 7
Slip of the Tongue
Whitesnake
Pull
Dirty, Rotten, Filthy, Stinking, Rich

That's it for now. With some thinking and research I would probably recognize more.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on July 04, 2014, 03:39:10 AM
If recognizing those and owning stuff on tapes is the official fogey criteria... well... :lol

no, seriously, CDs didn't get here until the early 2000's or so, along with PCs. My brother used to record stuff from the radio onto the empty cassettes. And my favorite was the transition from Christina Aguilera to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grx08ehxXMM
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 04, 2014, 04:01:43 AM
Recording stuff from the radio and yelling at the DJ if he/she talked into the end of the song ;D For years and years this was the only way to obtain music, apart from buying. And buying was expensive and money was scarce in my teenage years. There was no internet, there was no MP3, there was no downloading. And yet we knew about our favorite bands, I wonder how we did it?
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2014, 04:44:20 AM
If recognizing those and owning stuff on tapes is the official fogey criteria... well... :lol

It's not... it was just fun to do.

no, seriously, CDs didn't get here until the early 2000's or so, =Grx08ehxXMM

Wow!  I bought my first CD (Eat 'em and Smile) in 1987.  In fact, I went straight from vinyl to CDs.  I never really had much of a tape collection (other than the mixed tapes I made/traded)

Recording stuff from the radio and yelling at the DJ if he/she talked into the end of the song

Oh god yes.  The :rage: that would happen when they did this, followed by the :caffeine: when you finally got a completely 'clean' recording with no DJ.  Calling in to make your requests, and getting your voice on the radio with the song was a perfectly acceptable compromise though.  I chuckle that some radio stations still do "all-request lunch hour" type of programming.  Who the fuck needs to call into the radio to listen to a song they want to hear these days??
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on July 04, 2014, 04:49:33 AM
no, seriously, CDs didn't get here until the early 2000's or so

Wow!  I bought my first CD (Eat 'em and Smile) in 1987.  In fact, I went straight from vinyl to CDs.  I never really had much of a tape collection (other than the mixed tapes I made/traded)
I'm sure some people had them, just not us regular mortals ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 04, 2014, 05:50:34 AM
Recording stuff from the radio and yelling at the DJ if he/she talked into the end of the song ;D

So, so many times did I do that! :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 04, 2014, 07:35:06 AM
I remember recording on cassette an acoustic radio performance by Joe Satriani.  Had to be the late 80s or early 90s.  I forget the radio show.

That was a cool tape.

Of course, I would also record my favorite music videos on VHS from MTV.  I know I wasn't the only one.
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Post by: Another_Won on July 04, 2014, 07:50:41 AM
no, seriously, CDs didn't get here until the early 2000's or so

Wow!  I bought my first CD (Eat 'em and Smile) in 1987.  In fact, I went straight from vinyl to CDs.  I never really had much of a tape collection (other than the mixed tapes I made/traded)
I'm sure some people had them, just not us regular mortals ;D
I remember getting my first CD Carousel around 1989 or 90 and thought I was late to the game :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2014, 08:03:28 AM
I remember recording on cassette an acoustic radio performance by Joe Satriani.  Had to be the late 80s or early 90s.  I forget the radio show.

That was a cool tape.

Of course, I would also record my favorite music videos on VHS from MTV.  I know I wasn't the only one.

Well, I recorded on Much Music.  They did these 30 minute spots featuring an entire artist.  You usually got 4-5 videos, with a few interviews as well.  That's how I discovered a lot of music in the mid-late 80s.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 06, 2014, 04:22:27 PM
 :tup
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 06, 2014, 04:52:05 PM
You wouldn't believe the video tapes I had of the Saturday night concerts MTV aired.  I remember they simulcasted them on Radio as well.  I also taped every band I loved when they were on the late night talk show circuit.  Can't stay up for those anymore. :lol
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Post by: El Barto on July 06, 2014, 10:22:11 PM

Row 4
?
Marching Out
Rising Force
Fire & Ice
Shout at the Devil
?
?
No More Tears
No Rest For The Wicked
Speak of the Devil
Bark At The Moon
The Ultimate Sin
?
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
Recording stuff from the radio and yelling at the DJ if he/she talked into the end of the song
Oh god yes.  The :rage: that would happen when they did this, followed by the :caffeine: when you finally got a completely 'clean' recording with no DJ.  Calling in to make your requests, and getting your voice on the radio with the song was a perfectly acceptable compromise though.  I chuckle that some radio stations still do "all-request lunch hour" type of programming.  Who the fuck needs to call into the radio to listen to a song they want to hear these days??

Even before internal recording, I remember standing in my kitchen as a kid holding the microphone up to the radio. Kind of tough trying to press record too. :D

A TAC secret is that one of the songs on my first mix tape recorded from the radio was Funkytown by Lipps Inc! (Ok Joe take your best shot, I'm ready for ya!) :lol

Also on it was Alice Cooper's Clones and Cristopher Cross' Ride Like The Wind, which was just given the killer treatment by Saxon on their latest live album.
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 03:26:07 PM
Tim, how can I make fun of you about that. 


I know you were a K-Tel lover.



Oh wait.....
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
I won this album from JB 105 in Providence when I was like 11.
It was LOADED with awesome tunes.

Still have it in the attic!!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gUXlhhTPP0w/TyxwshbQbGI/AAAAAAAAAYA/toT-RvpmlLE/s1600/Pure-Rock-289884.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
OUTED!!








Me too!
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Post by: wolfking on July 07, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
Damn, I gotta wait another 10 years to join this now?  :facepalm:  I'll probably be around then though.
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Post by: El Barto on July 07, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
So how many had the Masters of Metal compilation tape, with Trashed, Meanstreak, Breaking the Chains, et al? I'm guessing more than half.
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 03:59:11 PM
I did.  That was a great album.
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:04:50 PM
I think by that point, I made my own Mix tapes. I wouldn't buy a compilation of stuff I already had.

Any of you guys have these Live Compilations?
I played the shit out of both.

(https://eil.com/images/main/The+Scorpions+-+Monsters+Of+Rock+-+LP+RECORD-439015.jpg)

(https://eil.com/images/main/Various+Artists+-+Reading+Rock+Volume+One+-+DOUBLE+LP-254466.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 04:07:31 PM
Damn Tim, I had neither! 

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Post by: Jaq on July 07, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
I won this album from JB 105 in Providence when I was like 11.
It was LOADED with awesome tunes.

Still have it in the attic!!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gUXlhhTPP0w/TyxwshbQbGI/AAAAAAAAAYA/toT-RvpmlLE/s1600/Pure-Rock-289884.jpg)

My best friend had this album when we were in high school  :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:19:41 PM
 :metal

Cat Scratch Fever, Slow Ride, Tush, The Grand Illusion, Jungle Love

Lots of great tracks.
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 04:22:42 PM
Jungle Love was the 1st 45 I ever owned that I bought with my own money.

Perks for cleaning my room. :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
Jungle Love was the 1st 45 I ever owned that I bought with my own money.

Perks for cleaning my room. :lol

Household chores. The easiest way to buy music when you were in grade school! :lol

My father took me to buy my first album Kiss Alive II for raking the grass. :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 04:27:26 PM
I bought Kiss Alive 2 with a Beach Boys compilation. :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:28:52 PM
I guess we know which one won! :metal
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Post by: Tick on July 08, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
1st record I bought was a 45 of "Hocus Pocus, by Focus" :metal
1st album was Rock and Roll Over by Kiss!
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Post by: Orbert on July 08, 2014, 11:06:07 AM
When I was eleven years old, I bought two 45's with saved-up allowance.  They were fun, but I started buying albums immediately after that.  I guess even then, I was about exploring what a band was all about, not just the hits.  I started my paper route shortly after that, and made $22 a week, which was a lot of money to a junior high kid in 1973.  Albums were about five bucks each, so that was four albums including tax, per week.  In my 20's, I bought a third 45 because it was a song I knew and loved and they were a one-hit wonder, and this was still long before mp3's and Internet downloads, so I had to nab it.  That's it.  I own three singles and hundreds of albums.

I never bought albums on cassette.  I bought blank cassettes and recorded albums onto them.  The vinyl was better quality for at home, and a good C-90 gave you better quality in the car, so win-win.  You found two albums that went together and put one on each side.

I didn't buy my own car until I was 20, but the first thing I did was upgrade the sound because factory audio back then sucked.  It was a Sony FTU-32 Auto-Reverse cassette deck with "high-power" sound.  It's all about the music, baby.  Always has been.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 11:19:11 AM
I bet $22 was a lot of money in 1973. I had my paper route in 1983. Made about $20 plus tips a week delivering about 40 homes.
And it was all about spending it on music.
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Post by: Orbert on July 08, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
You know it.  :tup

I still remember riding my bike to the shopping center near my house.  The pharmacy, for whatever reason, had a few racks of albums in the back, and I'd go through them every week.  Most were $5, but some were $4 or even $3, so I ended up checking out a lot of music I wouldn't have otherwise, just because it was a deal.
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
We used to walk 30 minutes to this bus station, to take a bus for 30 minutes just to go to the mall to buy albums. :lol

Thankfully, I got my license! :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 11:43:19 AM
Yeah, we always had to go to the mall which was 4 towns over. But we'd go every weekend and buy music. And to O's point, the bargain bin at Woolworth's was always a must rummage. Found Slade, The Sweet, Lucifer's Friend, Wrabbit, and Accept in that bin!!

Also, we used to bet and win on this.:
(https://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/chexx1s.jpg)
I would play with my paper route money and basically double up every week. On a good night, that allowed me to make a purchase out of the Import Bin! :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 11:51:50 AM
My brother and I would get real competitive on that hockey game.  Always played it at Salisbury Beach in Mass.  Dad was always willing to blow quarters on us kids. :metal
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Post by: Orbert on July 08, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Yes, it was a Woolworth's!  I didn't mention it by name because I didn't know who else might know it.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 12:24:55 PM
 :metal
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Post by: FreezingPoint on July 08, 2014, 12:29:52 PM
Also, we used to bet and win on this.:

Super Chexx

On vacation a couple of years ago we fond this game in a hotel. It rocked! :metal :metal

I actually looked up how much they cost to buy when I got home. Managed to get a smaller, table top one instead.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 12:49:00 PM
Yeah, they are expensive. The Lovely Mrs TAC looked at buying one for the family for Christmas a couple of years ago.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 08, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
My first record was Making Movies from Dire Straits. Before that I had only cassettes recorded from radio or the albums of friends. Never bought any album on cassette, always vinyl and then later on cd. We were living in the outskirts of Cologne and a ride into town by train was like 45 minutes, but there was (and still is) a really big record store, so it was always worth it.

Like Orbert I was an album guy. By the age of 18 I had roughly 150 albums but only three or four singles. Most of them financed by the odd job in the holidays and mowing lawns, washing cars and delivering papers.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2014, 03:27:10 PM
I think by that point, I made my own Mix tapes. I wouldn't buy a compilation of stuff I already had.

Any of you guys have these Live Compilations?
I played the shit out of both.

(https://eil.com/images/main/The+Scorpions+-+Monsters+Of+Rock+-+LP+RECORD-439015.jpg)

(https://eil.com/images/main/Various+Artists+-+Reading+Rock+Volume+One+-+DOUBLE+LP-254466.jpg)

I've got the Donington  one - my mate had the other. And the two Axe Attack albums  :biggrin:
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
Yes, it was a Woolworth's!  I didn't mention it by name because I didn't know who else might know it.

Stop at the counter after buying an album or two and grandma would treat to grilled cheese sandwiches! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2014, 04:00:34 PM
*sammich's
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 04:02:44 PM
*sammich's

Not to my grandmother ponying up! :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMXNd2-Vjv6KZrHihsu7Rz3tfIeEM1lJF7lwbf4ELTJJFjP1W3Zg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
You know it! :lol

Funny talking about Woolworth, in my home town where i was born the Building is still up,  The classic building stand the test of time.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 04:13:07 PM
Woolworth's is even mentioned in Alice Cooper's Generation Landslide. (1973)
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Post by: Orbert on July 08, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
Sweet!  Of course, Alice is from Detroit, Michigan, as am I, so it's not surprising.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 04:56:19 PM
Sweet!  Of course, Alice is from Detroit, Michigan, as am I, so it's not surprising.

I just revived the Alice thread to say hat I watched Super Duper Alice Cooper today, which is absolutely stunning.
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Post by: splent on July 09, 2014, 11:35:40 PM
Am I grandfathered in? 
 :millahhhh  :omg:
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Post by: splent on July 09, 2014, 11:40:40 PM
How about people over 30 who have kids... because most mornings I feel at least 40... at least I think...
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Post by: DebraKadabra on July 09, 2014, 11:46:00 PM
Nice to know I'm still firmly entrenched in this here clubaroo. :metal
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Post by: Zook on July 09, 2014, 11:49:29 PM
How about people over 30 who have kids... because most mornings I feel at least 40... at least I think...

You can join my club, Splent. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41869.0
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2014, 06:07:31 AM
How about people over 30 who have kids... because most mornings I feel at least 40... at least I think...

You can join my club, Splent. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41869.0

No, you can't have him.  Splent, we'll call you 'Fogey Emeritus'.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 10, 2014, 08:14:10 AM
I got busted shoplifting in Woolworth's when I was like 10.  A pair of cheap sunglasses I think it was.....  I wasn't a very smart thief... :lol  Luckily, they let me go and didn't call my folks.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2014, 09:06:44 AM
I got busted shoplifting in Woolworth's when I was like 10.  A pair of cheap sunglasses I think it was.....  I wasn't a very smart thief... :lol  Luckily, they let me go and didn't call my folks.

You must've been shopping for Degüello??
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Post by: Orbert on July 10, 2014, 10:01:28 AM
Great, now that song is stuck in my head.

Could be worse, though.  I like the tune.  ♫♫
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 10, 2014, 10:21:51 AM
I got busted shoplifting in Woolworth's when I was like 10.  A pair of cheap sunglasses I think it was.....  I wasn't a very smart thief... :lol  Luckily, they let me go and didn't call my folks.

You must've been shopping for Degüello??

Hey...I was 10.. EVERYTHING's expensive when you're 10.  Even cheap sunglasses  :hat
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Post by: Zook on July 10, 2014, 10:29:26 AM
How about people over 30 who have kids... because most mornings I feel at least 40... at least I think...

You can join my club, Splent. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41869.0

No, you can't have him.  Splent, we'll call you 'Fogey Emeritus'.

That's cheating, chrome dome!
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2014, 10:31:02 AM
How about people over 30 who have kids... because most mornings I feel at least 40... at least I think...

You can join my club, Splent. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41869.0

No, you can't have him.  Splent, we'll call you 'Fogey Emeritus'.

That's cheating, chrome dome!

Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.

If you don't know who coined that term, you're not fit to be in this thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zook on July 10, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
I have a fucking hemorrhoid. I'm more than fit for this thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 10, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
I have a fucking hemorrhoid. I'm more than fit for this thread.


pfffft.... my roids are older than you ..... :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 10, 2014, 10:43:49 AM
That's Mr. Chrome Dome to you youngster. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2014, 03:11:49 PM
Had to post this pic somewhere. Figured the Fogey thread was good enough.

(https://codaisnotjustaledzepsong.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ronnie-james-dio.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 11, 2014, 03:22:27 PM
Holy Diver Tim!!
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Post by: TAC on July 11, 2014, 03:23:18 PM
Holy Diver Tim!!
Definitely more like Elf!
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Post by: bl5150 on July 11, 2014, 11:17:48 PM
Slide Rule Club  :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 12, 2014, 04:41:14 AM
"Noon Service Club".  Wonder which teachers were getting his "service".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on July 14, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
How about people over 30 who have kids... because most mornings I feel at least 40... at least I think...

You can join my club, Splent. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41869.0

No, you can't have him.  Splent, we'll call you 'Fogey Emeritus'.

This is the only place where peolle fight over me
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on July 15, 2014, 11:46:29 AM
Had to post this pic somewhere. Figured the Fogey thread was good enough.

(https://codaisnotjustaledzepsong.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ronnie-james-dio.jpg)
Heh, this probably explains why he always played at the Bronco Bowl when he came to Dallas. He's exactly the sort of guy who might have bowled a few frames with fans after the gig.

In all fairness he played there because it was a kickass venue. His first gig back after it was demolished he sang it's praises and dedicated Falling off the Edge of the World to it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on October 18, 2014, 11:26:02 PM
My kid turns 21 tomorrow. Fuck I'm old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 19, 2014, 04:38:55 AM
My kid turns 21 tomorrow. Fuck I'm old.
I know man, I know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2014, 05:20:11 AM
I feel you RJ.  I have a niece that is 28 another who is 26.  2 nephews that are 25 and another that is 21.  It happens so damn fast.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2014, 05:44:12 AM
On Friday, I watched jingle.daughter taking care of 3-year old jingle.niece. Wasn't it just a few months ago the my daughter was 3?!?!?!?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2014, 05:47:29 AM
We get so involved in our day to day life that 3 becomes 14 so fast.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2014, 08:31:51 AM
Fogey group hug?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2014, 08:33:49 AM
Let me take some Aleve first.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on October 19, 2014, 08:41:33 AM
 :lol


Had to ask the 25 year old cocktail waitress yesterday to help me put two, yes two Icy Hot patches on my back cause I couldn't reach the spot. Way to be smooth around the young ladies RJ   :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2014, 08:57:10 AM
 :lol

She just X'ed you off the list.  Not flexible enough.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2014, 09:16:21 AM
:lol


Had to ask the 25 year old cocktail waitress yesterday to help me put two, yes two Icy Hot patches on my back cause I couldn't reach the spot. Way to be smooth around the young ladies RJ   :rollin :rollin :rollin

I guess the George-Clooney-good-looks only go so far, eh?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 19, 2014, 09:23:47 AM
Yeah when it's just from the head up it may not matter.



And Aleve, Joe? I'm an Ibuprofen  guy all the way.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bout to crash on October 19, 2014, 11:23:52 AM
 :lol, you guys.

As a hospice worker, I feel obligated to check this thread every once in a while and make sure you're all still alive.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on October 19, 2014, 11:26:48 AM
:lol, you guys.

As a hospice worker, I feel obligated to check this thread every once in a while and make sure you're all still alive.
Hey, do you guys have one of those cats that tells you when somebody's fixing to croak?



And Aleve, Joe? I'm an Ibuprofen  guy all the way.
Tylenol is the only one left for me to take, outside of opioids. And I'm not sure how much longer they're going to sell Tylenol OTC.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2014, 11:37:37 AM
I went with name brand.  Mywife works as a pharmacy tech so we get the Walgreen's brands 20% off.

Jackie,  you young jerk.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bout to crash on October 19, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
 :-*

Hey, do you guys have one of those cats that tells you when somebody's fixing to croak?


 :lol, I wish!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on October 19, 2014, 08:31:37 PM
I thought Aleve was Ibuprofen?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on October 19, 2014, 08:53:36 PM
I thought Aleve was Ibuprofen?
Nope. Naproxin. They're both NSAIDs but different drugs (along with aspirin and acetaminophen).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on October 19, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
I thought Aleve was Ibuprofen?
Nope. Naproxin. They're both NSAIDs but different drugs (along with aspirin and acetaminophen).

Gah, it's Advil that is Ibuprofen!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 19, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
:lol


Had to ask the 25 year old cocktail waitress yesterday to help me put two, yes two Icy Hot patches on my back cause I couldn't reach the spot. Way to be smooth around the young ladies RJ   :rollin :rollin :rollin

As long as she didn't have to comb through a few inches of silver back hair you should be good....right?



On Friday, I watched jingle.daughter taking care of 3-year old jingle.niece. Wasn't it just a few months ago the my daughter was 3?!?!?!?

I used to just shrug off with a kind laugh the 'older' parents who would warn me when our kiddos were 1, 2ish....that 'It goes by so fast...'  Now I look at the fact that I have an 8 and 7 year old and my 'baby' is 4  :omg:   It's true!! This isn't slowing down at all and in fact it's picking up speed!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on October 20, 2014, 12:16:56 AM
Thankfully I have a very smooth torso, otherwise I'd just have insane back pain still cause she wouldn't have touched the shit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 05, 2014, 09:10:51 PM
Didn't quite know where to put this pic but it's too dang cute not to share.....figured there are parents in this thread so.....

My youngest son's pre-school teacher took pictures of the whole class wearing this Military Uniform in front of the flag....and today as they honored Veteran's during a Chapel Service at school she hung the pictures in the hall that they walked down.


(https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/gmillerdrake/228CECA3-4828-48F7-B292-BBF3A80520F4.jpg) (https://s791.photobucket.com/user/gmillerdrake/media/228CECA3-4828-48F7-B292-BBF3A80520F4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 05, 2014, 11:32:15 PM
:metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on November 06, 2014, 06:30:27 AM
Cute, Gary.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on November 12, 2014, 08:23:12 AM
So the Mary Ann vs Ginger thing has been beaten to death, and besides, either you have a thing for redheads or you pick Mary Ann.

How 'bout late sixties brunettes (no good pictures with those kick ass short skirts, sadly): Mary Richards or Agent 99?

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FMgb0gaQ-1g/UN8AXeuPGpI/AAAAAAAAE7s/xEo1uULiOyA/s640/Mary+on+phone.png)
(https://www.classictvbeauties.com/Barbara_Feldon_as_99.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2014, 08:38:11 AM
Mary Richards
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 12, 2014, 10:57:16 AM
Wow, Mary and Agent 99 were both great.

Since I can't decide, I vote for a time-machine-assisted threesome.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on November 12, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
Wow, Mary and Agent 99 were both great.

Since I can't decide, I vote for a time-machine-assisted threesome.
That raises an interesting point. While I'd probably go with MR based on appearance(I wasn't as keen on Feldon's short hair phase) I get the impression that 99 would be awesome fun to party with. Mary was too neurotic. Same applied to Laurie Petrie who might have been even hotter, though in a much more sanitized early 60s sort of way. 99 had a more sultry, down for anything sort of attitude that's pretty damned hot.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
I would definitely go with Laura Petrie.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 12, 2014, 12:41:13 PM
Wow, Mary and Agent 99 were both great.

Since I can't decide, I vote for a time-machine-assisted threesome.
That raises an interesting point. While I'd probably go with MR based on appearance(I wasn't as keen on Feldon's short hair phase) I get the impression that 99 would be awesome fun to party with. Mary was too neurotic. Same applied to Laurie Petrie who might have been even hotter, though in a much more sanitized early 60s sort of way. 99 had a more sultry, down for anything sort of attitude that's pretty damned hot.

True.  I thought Agent 99 was "hot" while Mary was "cute", though both were also "pretty" (everyone has their own definitions for those terms, but that's how mine break down) which is why I went with the rather neutral term, "great".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on November 12, 2014, 01:12:49 PM
Laura Petrie was definitely hot for that era, but MTM worked much better as a 70's babe than a 60's one, which is exactly what the two characters represented. At least that's my opinion.


True.  I thought Agent 99 was "hot" while Mary was "cute", though both were also "pretty"
I think that's a dead-on assessment of the two, although I don't think pretty does them justice; more like fucking gorgeous.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2014, 01:18:25 PM
I must agree with EB's assessment.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 12, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
Me too, but I was trying to show some restraint.  I figured the threesome remark already implied how I felt about both of these ladies.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2014, 02:06:06 PM
Can I have my cake and eat it too and take both?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 12, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
Sure.  Sloppy seconds after me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Man...I almost croaked from old age digging to find this fucker.  I guess we all had senior moments and forgot about this bitch.  Anyways.... I can't wait for 8 more years to pass so I can retire.  So tired of working for this shit hole company.  Yeah... I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I know a lot of folks have it a lot worse than me, but man I hate this cheap ass company.  Retirements calling!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on June 06, 2015, 10:03:45 PM
Man...I almost croaked from old age digging to find this fucker.  I guess we all had senior moments and forgot about this bitch.  Anyways.... I can't wait for 8 more years to pass so I can retire.  So tired of working for this shit hole company.  Yeah... I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I know a lot of folks have it a lot worse than me, but man I hate this cheap ass company.  Retirements calling!!!!!!!
Union troubles still afflicting you? I know it's unrelated to your steelworker amigos, but the longshoreman strike out there has certainly been a headache for me. Some material that I was in dire need of finally showed up from Asia and after sitting around the Pacific for two weeks finally had to be routed to the East coast via Panama.

As for retirement, I still think of that as mythical.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on June 07, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
Man...I almost croaked from old age digging to find this fucker.  I guess we all had senior moments and forgot about this bitch.  Anyways.... I can't wait for 8 more years to pass so I can retire.  So tired of working for this shit hole company.  Yeah... I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I know a lot of folks have it a lot worse than me, but man I hate this cheap ass company.  Retirements calling!!!!!!!
Union troubles still afflicting you? I know it's unrelated to your steelworker amigos, but the longshoreman strike out there has certainly been a headache for me. Some material that I was in dire need of finally showed up from Asia and after sitting around the Pacific for two weeks finally had to be routed to the East coast via Panama.

As for retirement, I still think of that as mythical.

Twenty years still. Sigh...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 07, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
I don't even have a retirement target date, in years, based on my age, or whatever.  The house won't be paid off for another 10 years, so hopefully I can keep working until at least then.  I haven't saved jack shit towards retirement, despite everyone and everything saying I should for the past 20 years, because we've been perpetually in debt due to my wife never keeping a job and being unemployed more years of our marriage than she's been employed.  So while saving up for retirement is a good and smart thing, so is paying the electricity bill and making the house payment, so those kinda came first.  The only real savings we have is my 401(k), which currently has about one year's salary (of mine) in it.  It'll compound a bit in the next 10 years, but will hardly be the nest egg that most people would count on.

Meanwhile, my mom died and my dad has a boatload of money which my sisters and I will split when he passes.  I know this because he sends financial statements to us twice a year.  So it sucks to think of it this way, but he's 84 now, and the odds are that he'll pass sometime in the next ten years, leaving us enough money to pay off the house and put the kids through college.  Except by then the house will be paid off and the kids will (hopefully) be done with college, so that will become our nest egg.  If my dad's still around, great, I'll just keep working.  I'll have nothing else to do at that point anyway.

So the only variable -- and it's a biggee -- is whether I'll be able to find/keep a job until then.  Where I'm at now, I've been there 10 years and they love me, but that's no guarantee that I'll be there another 10.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
What's retirement?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kotowboy on June 07, 2015, 11:40:15 AM
Just reserving a seat on the bus for 3 years and 5 months.

See you then :coolio
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 07, 2015, 07:53:18 PM

Union troubles still afflicting you? I know it's unrelated to your steelworker amigos, but the longshoreman strike out there has certainly been a headache for me. Some material that I was in dire need of finally showed up from Asia and after sitting around the Pacific for two weeks finally had to be routed to the East coast via Panama.

As for retirement, I still think of that as mythical.

Yeah, amazingly we won our dispute.  The strike lasted a meager 52 days.  I was expecting 3-6 months realistically, and then still losing.  I was shocked that we actually didn't lose anything major.  Yeah, the trickle down effect from the longshoremans work slow down affected a lot of people.  After going through what I went through though, I empathize with the situation they were in.  Sucks though to be the poor merchant or person waiting on equipment or just stuff in general.

I don't even have a retirement target date, in years, based on my age, or whatever.  The house won't be paid off for another 10 years, so hopefully I can keep working until at least then.  I haven't saved jack shit towards retirement, despite everyone and everything saying I should for the past 20 years, because we've been perpetually in debt due to my wife never keeping a job and being unemployed more years of our marriage than she's been employed.  So while saving up for retirement is a good and smart thing, so is paying the electricity bill and making the house payment, so those kinda came first.  The only real savings we have is my 401(k), which currently has about one year's salary (of mine) in it.  It'll compound a bit in the next 10 years, but will hardly be the nest egg that most people would count on.

Meanwhile, my mom died and my dad has a boatload of money which my sisters and I will split when he passes.  I know this because he sends financial statements to us twice a year.  So it sucks to think of it this way, but he's 84 now, and the odds are that he'll pass sometime in the next ten years, leaving us enough money to pay off the house and put the kids through college.  Except by then the house will be paid off and the kids will (hopefully) be done with college, so that will become our nest egg.  If my dad's still around, great, I'll just keep working.  I'll have nothing else to do at that point anyway.

So the only variable -- and it's a biggee -- is whether I'll be able to find/keep a job until then.  Where I'm at now, I've been there 10 years and they love me, but that's no guarantee that I'll be there another 10.

I've been fortunate enough to be with the some company for 25 years.  If I would have been REALLY smart I would have maxed my 401k from the get go, but like you say...electric bills and rent kinda hinder that.  I'm also a firm believer in live for the now as much as you can too.  I've seen too many folks reach retirement age then croak.  For me it's been a balancing act, Now vs. Retirement.  By the time I hit 59.5 in 8 years I HOPE I'll be able to be comfortable enough to live where I want and do the things I want.  Now, we all know anything can happen, and plans change.  All we can do is roll with it.  My wife sounds a bit like yours.  It would be really nice to have a full time, stable second income.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on June 16, 2015, 11:13:05 AM
I thought of something interesting the other day. We were all around for some awesome tours. You mention here or on some other forum that you saw the Damage Inc. tour or the World Piece tour all of these kids will say how lucky you are and how they'd kill to have been able to see some band back 30 years ago when they were still good. Yet, all of those kids would have absolutely hated those shows. They're so sued to modern tours that an actual rock concert would traumatize them.

"It was awful! The sound was terrible. It took two weeks to get the smell out of my hair. My ears won't stop ringing. I couldn't see because people were standing on their chairs. Some asshole was smoking marijuana next to me the whole night. A preacher told me I was going to hell. People kept screaming the whole time. When I held my phone up to film the thing somebody smashed me the head with a whiskey bottle."
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Post by: Orbert on June 16, 2015, 11:27:20 AM
I don't go to many concerts nowadays, mostly because tickets now cost as much as a small car, but the last one I went to (Foo Fighters Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace) was insanely loud.  I wore ear plugs and still had no problem hearing every note, and every word Dave said.  So I don't know if "kids today" would complain about the sound being too loud.

The rest, I can see, but my experience is limited.  How are concerts today different from in the past?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 16, 2015, 12:03:21 PM
I never went to a lot of concerts when I was younger.

Of course, I don't go to a lot of concerts now, either.

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Post by: King Postwhore on June 16, 2015, 02:11:05 PM
I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter in a water gun fight on Sunday at a party.


I pulled a hamstring. :lol


That is all.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring. :lol

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on June 16, 2015, 03:54:03 PM
I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring. :lol

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!
Talked to my old man today and he's nursing a bit of a sunburn. Seems his step-granddaughter's graduation culminated in an all day pool party with 15 of her friends and he felt compelled to hang out in the backyard for longer than he probably should have.

Quote from: David Wooderson
High school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on June 16, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
The rest, I can see, but my experience is limited.  How are concerts today different from in the past?
In the old days a rock concert was as much about the lifestyle as it was seeing the band. Now it's simply a recital. While I do appreciate modern sound quality, and old man that I am I enjoy being able to sit down, but the hooliganism that accompanied seeing VH or Ozzy is sorely missed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2015, 04:00:21 PM
I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring. :lol

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!
Talked to my old man today and he's nursing a bit of a sunburn. Seems his step-granddaughter's graduation culminated in an all day pool party with 15 of her friends and he felt compelled to hang out in the backyard for longer than he probably should have.

Quote from: David Wooderson
High school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same.
Sounds like he could've used some..um..protection. :D
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Post by: Orbert on June 16, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
The rest, I can see, but my experience is limited.  How are concerts today different from in the past?
In the old days a rock concert was as much about the lifestyle as it was seeing the band. Now it's simply a recital. While I do appreciate modern sound quality, and old man that I am I enjoy being able to sit down, but the hooliganism that accompanied seeing VH or Ozzy is sorely missed.

Ah, got it.  To be honest, even back in the old days, I was more annoyed than anything else by all the people who went to concerts and clearly had the musical performance itself relatively low on their priority list.  I was there first and foremost to hear the music, second to see the band.  Yeah, the crowd, the venue, the event, the atmosphere, those were all important.  It was exciting to be a part of a huge crowd all digging the same thing.  And there was also the unspoken comraderie; I didn't go to a whole lot of concerts, but had complete strangers share their smoke with me more than once.

But for the most part, I really wished people would just sit down and shut the hell up so I could see and hear the show I came to see and hear.  The big reason why I don't go to concerts any more is the price, but that's coupled with the idea of paying big money and not really enjoying the show.  If you can actually see and hear the performance these days, then I consider that a step in the right direction.  Of course, the vast majority of bands I like either aren't around any more or sound like crap these days.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 16, 2015, 04:16:42 PM
I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring. :lol

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!

Talk about being part of the media and picking out and cut and pasting lines together to fit your dirty little agenda. :lol

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring. :lol

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!
Talked to my old man today and he's nursing a bit of a sunburn. Seems his step-granddaughter's graduation culminated in an all day pool party with 15 of her friends and he felt compelled to hang out in the backyard for longer than he probably should have.

Quote from: David Wooderson
High school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same.

Same here.  I brought a hat and didn't wear it.  the dome is taking a beating today.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on June 16, 2015, 10:30:37 PM
I'm guessing a few people in here remember Hickory Farms. Occurs to me that it's pretty much a thing of the past once they left every single mall in America. The gift boxes were a popular thing to hand out for the executives, so they showed up somewhat frequently at my old man's place. They're probably banned by the FDA by now but I remember them somewhat fondly. I also loved all of the hard candies flavored after mixed drinks you could buy at the mall. MAAD probably put a stop to that 30 years ago, though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 17, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
I'm guessing a few people in here remember Hickory Farms. Occurs to me that it's pretty much a thing of the past once they left every single mall in America. The gift boxes were a popular thing to hand out for the executives, so they showed up somewhat frequently at my old man's place. They're probably banned by the FDA by now but I remember them somewhat fondly. I also loved all of the hard candies flavored after mixed drinks you could buy at the mall. MAAD probably put a stop to that 30 years ago, though.

They are still around. (https://www.hickoryfarms.com/)  And they still show up in the local malls at holiday time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 17, 2015, 07:57:03 AM
There are always prominent during the holiday seasons in Kiosks in the mall.  They used to have permanent store up here but there are long gone now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on June 17, 2015, 07:59:22 AM
Hickory Farms was perfect for the "What do I get my girlfriend's parents for Christmas" problem.



Oh, and Orange Julius FTW!!! :metal

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on June 17, 2015, 08:12:38 AM
I'm guessing a few people in here remember Hickory Farms. Occurs to me that it's pretty much a thing of the past once they left every single mall in America. The gift boxes were a popular thing to hand out for the executives, so they showed up somewhat frequently at my old man's place. They're probably banned by the FDA by now but I remember them somewhat fondly. I also loved all of the hard candies flavored after mixed drinks you could buy at the mall. MAAD probably put a stop to that 30 years ago, though.

They are still around. (https://www.hickoryfarms.com/)  And they still show up in the local malls at holiday time.
Oh, I know they're still around. They just seem to have lost all relevance without being in every mall. When was the last time you actually got a gift box from them? I didn't now they set up shop in kiosks during Christmas, though. I avoid malls like the plague for the last 2+ months of the year, whenever they convert to Christmas nonsense.

And yeah, it was always the perfect gift for oddballs that didn't warrant more thoughtful presents.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 17, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
Yeah fining a parking spot during the Christmas season is as fun as poking your eyes out.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 17, 2015, 02:05:29 PM
Hickory Farms was perfect for the "What do I get my girlfriend's parents for Christmas" problem.



Oh, and Orange Julius FTW!!! :metal

Damn....I was supposed to by prezzies for the GF's folks???  That explains lots!!!   :lol  As far as concerts, I know I'm getting old cause I don't think I could do a General Admission seating show anymore.  I need my nice, comfy, spacious seat  :biggrin:  Yeah... I'll stand and rock out....just don't wanna be part of the pit anymore.... :blush
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 18, 2015, 03:18:49 AM
Some weeks ago there was the 30th anniversary of one of the biggest open air concerts in Germany: Rock am Ring, a three day festival. For this year the concert moved to a new location and I saw a report on TV about people complaining about thre camping grounds: Too few toilets, too much mud, no electricity, too few showers, a long way to the parking lot etc.

What happened to the young folks? Why are they so whiny? This is a rock festival not a five star camping trip!

I was there a couple of times in the early 90s when I was in my early 20s. The camping grounds were some meadows or parking lots. There were maybe three mobile toilets for the whole camping ground and they were thrown over by some assholes regularly. Naturally there were no showers and there was a lot of mud because at least on one day it was raining heavily. If you wanted electricity you either brought a generator or a car battery and the only use for electricity was to blast some music.

We usually had a tent, a lot of alcoholic beverages, maybe some non-tobacco products, we saw a lot of bands, we rocked out, we headbanged till our necks hurt and we had a lot of fun.  :metal :metal :metal

For a shit you went into the woods and you definitely didn't need a shower. Maybe now I'm too old for this shit, but the people they showed in that report were early 20s, not some old farts like me. And I'm not saying that everything was perfect back then but none the less it was legendary for all of us and today is still remembered fondly. We were there for the music and the fun and we had lots of it. I think the young ones I saw on TV wouldn't have lasted an hour before running home crying when they were there back then.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cyclopssss on June 22, 2015, 04:31:50 AM
Yeah, young folks these days....funny how easily shocked they are.  :angel:

Went to some sleazepunk-coverband and didn't expect too much of it. Saw some old friends and made some new.  :tup

Thouroughly rocked out to the band which turned out to be kickass!  :metal Didn't even wear any earplugs!  :metal

Had a couple beers too many and had to take a cab home. Got home around three in the morning.  :yarr

Woke up with a slight hangover, but totally worth it! Fuck, I still rock at 50!  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 26, 2015, 06:13:01 AM
Yeah, young folks these days....funny how easily shocked they are.  :angel:

Went to some sleazepunk-coverband and didn't expect too much of it. Saw some old friends and made some new.  :tup

Thouroughly rocked out to the band which turned out to be kickass!  :metal Didn't even wear any earplugs!  :metal

Had a couple beers too many and had to take a cab home. Got home around three in the morning.  :yarr

Woke up with a slight hangover, but totally worth it! Fuck, I still rock at 50!  ;D

Dude...you're making the rest of us old fukkers look weak...... :lol

Keep rockin Brotha!  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 27, 2015, 05:34:17 AM
Noticed he hasn't posted since he partied.   :lol

It takes a lot longer to recoupe these days.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 27, 2015, 06:10:54 AM
No kidding
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 27, 2015, 06:39:56 AM
So you know your old when you hesitate to see a movie in the drive in when it's the second one showing.  Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 27, 2015, 08:45:56 AM
Wow...you still have a drive in??  I haven't seen one in decades.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cyclopssss on June 29, 2015, 02:11:37 AM
Noticed he hasn't posted since he partied.   :lol

It takes a lot longer to recoupe these days.

Ouch. Now that hurt, brother! You're right though. Went to a beachparty (dont'ask) oh my f'ing god, the things I've seen... partied till one o' clock of the morn, then stumbled off to bed.
Party went on untill six in the morning....yeah. Sometimes you have to CHOOSE your battles!  :mehlin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2016, 09:42:43 PM
:bump:

Is it just me, or is it absolutely-fucking-fantastic how there are still a ton of REAL fogeys - ie, 40+ - around these here parts?  Pretty soon, 50+ is going to be the requirement for the "fogey" handle.

Youth is wasted on the young.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on April 26, 2016, 10:10:56 PM
:bump:

Is it just me, or is it absolutely-fucking-fantastic how there are still a ton of REAL fogeys - ie, 40+ - around these here parts?  Pretty soon, 50+ is going to be the requirement for the "fogey" handle.

Youth is wasted on the young.
Us old farts don't go anywhere. We're set in our ways. The youngins all move on to the next shiny object.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 27, 2016, 12:06:00 AM
Once you reach a certain wisdom age, you don't have to be everywhere, you stay where it's nice and cozy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 04:12:52 AM
Where else can you bitch about concert ushers?  Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 27, 2016, 05:44:42 AM
Where else can you bitch about concert ushers?  Lol

In a thread about concert ushers.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on April 27, 2016, 05:55:04 AM
Once you reach a certain wisdom age, you don't have to be everywhere, you stay where it's nice and cozy.

Plus it's just plain bothersome to get moving.  It would take too long to break in a new forum.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 06:09:02 AM
Where else can you bitch about concert ushers?  Lol

In a thread about concert ushers.   :biggrin:

Nope.  Us old guys sip on coffee and bitch in this thread. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 27, 2016, 06:13:07 AM
Where else can you bitch about concert ushers?  Lol

In a thread about concert ushers.   :biggrin:

Nope.  Us old guys sip on coffee and bitch in this thread. :lol

*Seinfeld voice*

So what is the deal with concert ushers, and who are these people?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 06:25:15 AM
 :lol

So Like I said in the chat thread.  2 50 year anniversary parties to go to back to back weeks.  You know you're getting old.  Though it makes our 22 plus years of marriage seem small.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 27, 2016, 06:26:49 AM
Yeah, I wasn't even in the same ballpark.

I have a meeting in a couple of minutes. Ugh 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 06:28:08 AM
I have meetings all the time.  Fun fun.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: The Trooper on April 27, 2016, 06:38:14 AM
I have meetings all the time.  Fun fun.

LOL. That's when you know that your old
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 06:47:42 AM
I have a lot of hints to let me know that. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: The Trooper on April 27, 2016, 07:16:36 AM
I have a lot of hints to let me know that. :lol

lol join the crowd brotha!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Hyperplex on April 27, 2016, 07:18:26 AM
I don't have as many meetings as I could, and I'm fine with that. Though I think that will be changing in the near future. I'll be expecting weekly pow wows with my team here to begin in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 27, 2016, 07:20:59 AM
I don't have as many meetings as I could, and I'm fine with that. Though I think that will be changing in the near future. I'll be expecting weekly pow wows with my team here to begin in the coming weeks.

Fogey club membership is 40+ now.  Take it to the 30-something thread, youngling.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: The Trooper on April 27, 2016, 07:22:45 AM
I don't have as many meetings as I could, and I'm fine with that. Though I think that will be changing in the near future. I'll be expecting weekly pow wows with my team here to begin in the coming weeks.

Fogey club membership is 40+ now.  Take it to the 30-something thread, youngling.   :lol

yeah these young whippersnappers :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Hyperplex on April 27, 2016, 07:27:29 AM
Didn't pay attention, but alright.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JustJen on April 27, 2016, 07:31:36 AM
Where else can you bitch about concert ushers?  Lol

In a thread about concert ushers.   :biggrin:

Nope.  Us old guys sip on coffee and bitch in this thread. :lol

HOME!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JustJen on April 27, 2016, 07:33:23 AM
:lol

So Like I said in the chat thread.  2 50 year anniversary parties to go to back to back weeks.  You know you're getting old.  Though it makes our 22 plus years of marriage seem small.

damn yeah. 50 years... jeepers what a thought. My anniversary is coming up in May.. I"m not even sure how many years I've been married anymore unless I do the math. Lemme see, 1993... what's that 23 years it'll be? one of these days I really need to get around to actually having a wedding. I've never worn a wedding gown or had a ceremony or anything. I would kind of like to get to do that someday.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 07:37:54 AM
Our 23 years will be in October.  How time flies.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on April 27, 2016, 07:41:23 AM
I've been married 29 years. Just not in a row  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 07:46:16 AM
So you know addition. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 27, 2016, 08:01:26 AM
So, I'm gonna jump back one page and almost one year, to the Hickory Farms discussion.  I know we all remember when they were an actual store in the mall, but did anyone have a HF store that made fresh and sold the pita bread sandwiches?  They'd use all HF sliced meats and grated cheeses in them, with the usual sandwich toppings and condiments.  I always got the Smokehouse, which was summer sausage and smoky bar cheese.  So damned good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 27, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
Another sign of getting older: the father of a good friend of mine recently passed away.  I am attending the funeral this afternoon.

 :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 08:08:07 AM
Damn Hef, I'm sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 08:09:03 AM
So, I'm gonna jump back one page and almost one year, to the Hickory Farms discussion.  I know we all remember when they were an actual store in the mall, but did anyone have a HF store that made fresh and sold the pita bread sandwiches?  They'd use all HF sliced meats and grated cheeses in them, with the usual sandwich toppings and condiments.  I always got the Smokehouse, which was summer sausage and smoky bar cheese.  So damned good.

I actually like getting them for Christmas.  There used to be a store year round in the malls but now it's just seasonal around here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 27, 2016, 08:15:13 AM
Damn Hef, I'm sorry for your loss.
Well, he had been in pain for quite a while.  He is better off, but it will be tough on the family for a while.  I know, I've been there (and so have you, brother).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on April 27, 2016, 08:16:26 AM
So, I'm gonna jump back one page and almost one year, to the Hickory Farms discussion.  I know we all remember when they were an actual store in the mall, but did anyone have a HF store that made fresh and sold the pita bread sandwiches?  They'd use all HF sliced meats and grated cheeses in them, with the usual sandwich toppings and condiments.  I always got the Smokehouse, which was summer sausage and smoky bar cheese.  So damned good.
I don't recall ours making sandwiches, but that was a lifetime ago. I do recall it was a huge store, so I suppose there might have been a deli in there. I honestly only went in for the liquor flavored candies and they were right up front.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: The Trooper on April 27, 2016, 08:22:13 AM
Been to way to many funerals for people my age (49) in the past few years :tdwn
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 27, 2016, 12:36:45 PM
I've already told those close to me that I want The Spirit Carries On played at my funeral.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2016, 02:14:19 PM
So, I'm gonna jump back one page and almost one year, to the Hickory Farms discussion.  I know we all remember when they were an actual store in the mall, but did anyone have a HF store that made fresh and sold the pita bread sandwiches?  They'd use all HF sliced meats and grated cheeses in them, with the usual sandwich toppings and condiments.  I always got the Smokehouse, which was summer sausage and smoky bar cheese.  So damned good.
I don't recall ours making sandwiches, but that was a lifetime ago. I do recall it was a huge store, so I suppose there might have been a deli in there. I honestly only went in for the liquor flavored candies and they were right up front.
You probably don't recall them having cash registers either! ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on April 27, 2016, 02:26:59 PM
So, I'm gonna jump back one page and almost one year, to the Hickory Farms discussion.  I know we all remember when they were an actual store in the mall, but did anyone have a HF store that made fresh and sold the pita bread sandwiches?  They'd use all HF sliced meats and grated cheeses in them, with the usual sandwich toppings and condiments.  I always got the Smokehouse, which was summer sausage and smoky bar cheese.  So damned good.
I don't recall ours making sandwiches, but that was a lifetime ago. I do recall it was a huge store, so I suppose there might have been a deli in there. I honestly only went in for the liquor flavored candies and they were right up front.
You probably don't recall them having cash registers either! ;D
Nah, I was never much of a shoplifter. Besides, even punk kids can scrape up 15¢ (fished out of the fountain in front of the damn store  :lol ).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2016, 02:28:13 PM
Yeah, just um..joshing.

I honestly don't remember real HF stores.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 27, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
I do but I don't remember the candy. Now at the liquor store now I do see them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on April 28, 2016, 05:08:46 PM
This was posted on FB today and I remember this. I think it's a local brand (based out of Chicago, but we had them in GB, and always got it because it was so much more cheap than Doritos or Lays)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/b7/a0/66b7a0d60c4124c300bd8a62829f04bb.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on April 28, 2016, 08:27:02 PM
We had Jays chips in Michigan growing up, too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on April 28, 2016, 08:35:54 PM
I mean they still have them but not in the box.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on April 28, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
I guess Jays in the box didn't even strike me as weird, since that's how I remember them.  I didn't think about the fact that chips don't normally come in boxes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JustJen on April 29, 2016, 04:16:44 AM
I guess Jays in the box didn't even strike me as weird, since that's how I remember them.  I didn't think about the fact that chips don't normally come in boxes.

We had a brand that came in boxes here as well but it wasn't Jays. Can't recall what it was. I always thought it was weird that they cost less, but the chips came out less smashed up. No such option these days that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 29, 2016, 04:50:50 AM
I gotta admit, chips in a box seems really weird.

But I am no discriminator of snacks.  If they are good, they are good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JustJen on April 29, 2016, 04:52:29 AM
I gotta admit, chips in a box seems really weird.

But I am no discriminator of snacks.  If they are good, they are good.

Wasn't there a Saturday Night Live skit called Chips in a Box?  ???  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 29, 2016, 04:54:14 AM
Um, yeah, something like that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JustJen on April 29, 2016, 04:59:36 AM
Um, yeah, something like that.

I accidentally showed it to my 13 year old. That was awkward. But I have to admit I take a certain pleasure in making her shriek "OH MY GOD, MOM!" :lol (in my defense, she's shown me far worse things on the internet. she can handle it.)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 29, 2016, 05:00:45 AM
lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2016, 02:52:25 PM
So on vacation last week, we were driving and I asked my son to hand me my Walkman. Of course he was like, "wut?".
I said my Walkman, and suddenly my entire family started laughing at me.

Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
I do it all the time!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 01, 2016, 03:04:08 PM
If 40 is the new 30, does that mean that 50 is the new 40 and so on...?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
So on vacation last week, we were driving and I asked my son to hand me my Walkman. Of course he was like, "wut?".
I said my Walkman, and suddenly my entire family started laughing at me.

Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
I do it all the time!

I never had a real Walkman, an actual device manufactured by Sony, so when I was growing up I never called it that.  It was my portable tape player, or usually just my "tunes".  I go somewhere, I grab my tunes.  When I graduated to CDs and portable CD players, it was still my tunes.  It's been an iPod for years, though.  I never bothered with an mp3 player until they made an iPod big enough to be worthy, and when I got it I was pretty happy about it, so I've always called it my iPod.

But now I have two of them, so I'm back to just calling it my tunes.  I go somewhere, I grab my tunes.  It sounds to me like you're using the word "Walkman" as a generic term for whatever your portable tunes are.  I'm sorry, but that's just not right.  In fact, it's wrong.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2016, 03:25:18 PM
I used the term "tunes" back in the day as well. I may have had an actual Walkman, but I certainly had a number of cheaper models. I do use it generically for sure. Always have. Apparently still do!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2016, 03:51:21 PM
Well okay, but I'm pretty sure that there's still something wrong with doing that.


Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2016, 04:13:17 PM
I love Coke, and by Coke, I mean Coke Zero. :P
And no I'm not from the south. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2016, 04:45:00 PM
That's okay, at least Coke Zero is still Coke.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 01, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
I find myself having to look up acronyms more and more often. Hard to keep up with youngsters abbreviating everything. TIL TIL.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 01, 2016, 05:14:18 PM
COKE 0.

EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Barto, I am so behind the times with the acronyms.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2016, 05:16:50 PM
I have no idea what TIL means. Teacher-in-Law?  Thoroughly Incapacitated Lady?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: millahh on August 01, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
So I guess I'm the new 30 now?  And good lord, it's been 3 1/2 years since that last time I posted in this thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2016, 07:47:00 PM
I have no idea what TIL means. Teacher-in-Law?  Thoroughly Incapacitated Lady?

Time is lapsing?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 01, 2016, 08:00:14 PM
Just popped in to say i pulled a muscle in my upper back, at the bottom of my neck taking a bite out of an apple at lunch today sitting at my desk.  :|

True Story.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2016, 08:37:49 PM
 :facepalm:

 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 01, 2016, 09:08:55 PM
I hate that shit.  Stuff you used to be able to do literally without thinking, now you can actually injure yourself if you don't think about it and make sure you do it right so you don't injure yourself.  What the fuck?

I can't even remember the last time I just got up out of bed and walked to the bathroom.  These days, I stand up, stretch, at least take a second to make sure all the muscles are working.  Then I can walk the 15 feet down the hall.  Seriously?  I remember not having to do all that just to take a piss.

I remember leaning over to tie my shoelaces.  Now I literally don't even take that chance.  I sit my ass down somewhere, set my shoes in front of me, and yeah now I can lean over and tie my shoelaces, and I'm going "ughhhh" the whole time because I'm leaning over and my fat gut is spilling over my belt and I can't breathe, because I'm leaning over.

It didn't used to be like this!!  It pisses me off.  I can remember not being in physical pain all the time.  I can remember walking to the kitchen to get something to eat without having to specifically stand up straight because my natural tendency now is to slouch, but I cannot allow that habit to develop because if I do, the next thing I know, I'll be old and bent over.  At least this way I just old.

Remember "Hope I die before I get old"?  Okay, I don't share that sentiment; I'd definitely prefer to keep going.  But I do understand it.  Getting old sucks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 01, 2016, 09:29:28 PM
It's so weird. I'm 40.....not all that 'old'.....I exercise and stay active but like you said Orbert the 'normal' things are really starting to be hazards to my health.  :lol Taking a bite out of a freaking Apple literally sent a lightning bolt like jilt through my upper back muscles and left me aching. WTF?

I was never a guy who 'feared' aging but it's almost comical that here the year i turned 40 I've had a host of minor muscle pulls and aches and pains I've never had before.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 01, 2016, 10:17:09 PM
I have no idea what TIL means. Teacher-in-Law?  Thoroughly Incapacitated Lady?

Time is lapsing?
Today I learned.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 07:01:13 AM
I definitely don't remember it being this f#%king difficult to put on a pair of socks!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2016, 07:11:25 AM
I definitely don't remember it being this f#%king difficult to put on a pair of socks!

Bending at the knees is a whole new experience.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 07:20:31 AM
I definitely don't remember it being this f#%king difficult to put on a pair of socks!

Bending at the knees is a whole new experience.

The other morning I literally almost fell over trying to put on my underwear. My wife was like, "Do you want some help?".
 :facepalm:

You know you're old when instead of your wife taking off your underwear, she helps you put it on!

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 02, 2016, 07:39:41 AM
See, that's what I'm talking about.  Basic, everyday shit you that never thought twice about, like standing on one foot for the two seconds it takes to put your leg into your fucking underwear, or put on a sock.  These days, I actually have to pause and make sure I have my balance first.  Every time, or I risk falling, or at least losing my balance and bumping into a dresser or something.  Dammit!  This did not used to be an issue!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2016, 07:45:03 AM
You start using the bed to put your sock on since it holds your leg up for you.


When you start thinking like this, you know you are getting old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 02, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
I sit in a chair when putting socks on.  I can still stand and take them off.  Not that old yet.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2016, 08:37:47 AM
I sit in a chair when putting socks on.  I can still stand and take them off.  Not that old yet.  :lol

:soon:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 02, 2016, 10:10:10 AM
:lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 02, 2016, 10:53:31 AM
Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
Yeah, probably.

Although I occasionally refer to the TV/Cable remote as a "clicker" and completely mystify my kids (as well as piss off my wife lol).

Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
I suppose that may be true in SOME parts of the South.  But I have lived in North Carolina all my life, and we certainly do not call every drink "Coke".  We refer to each drink by its actual name.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 02, 2016, 05:16:34 PM
Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
I suppose that may be true in SOME parts of the South.  But I have lived in North Carolina all my life, and we certainly do not call every drink "Coke".  We refer to each drink by its actual name.
We'll certainly say "hey, get me a Dr. Pepper" but coke is definitely the generic term. Nobody calls it a soda or a pop. Best example is that we have coke machines, regardless of which distributor owns it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 02, 2016, 05:25:45 PM
Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
Yeah, probably.

Although I occasionally refer to the TV/Cable remote as a "clicker" and completely mystify my kids (as well as piss off my wife lol).

Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
I suppose that may be true in SOME parts of the South.  But I have lived in North Carolina all my life, and we certainly do not call every drink "Coke".  We refer to each drink by its actual name.

It's the same up here. Things are asked for by their name. Nobody asks for a Coke only to have someone bring them a Pepsi. That's like...grounds for death.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 02, 2016, 06:12:11 PM

It's the same up here. Things are asked for by their name. Nobody asks for a Coke only to have someone bring them a Pepsi. That's like...grounds for death.  :lol
LOL. We don't rely on telepathy down here, either. Coke is just a generic term for what you guys a soda, soft drink or pop. I believe it's considered a genericized trade name, like aspirin, band-aid or Kleenex. Slow cookers come in a variety of shapes and sizes, yet we all cook things in Crock-Pots™, whether it's made by Sunbeam or not.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2016, 06:33:46 PM
And I thought chili wasa form of communication in Texas.  Funny that we talk about Coke and Pepsi while the wild flavors is what kids drink these days.

I wonder if they'll follow Table and disappear?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 06:45:34 PM
I don't think they're any wilder than when we were kids.

(https://www.usasoda.com/images/ccmello106.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
That's tame compared to the drinks today.

He'll, I seriously never met anyone that liked Mello Yellow. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 02, 2016, 06:49:54 PM
I don't think I ever drank that. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 06:51:08 PM
That's tame compared to the drinks today.

He'll, I seriously never met anyone that liked Mello Yellow. :lol


The only thing different today are the energy drinks. Soda is pretty much the same though.

And you definitely know someone who liked Mello Yello! :)

In fact I took my kids to a Five Guys and had a Mello Yello Zero out of the soda machine a few weeks ago.  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2016, 06:51:28 PM
It's so weird. I'm 40.....not all that 'old'.....I exercise and stay active but like you said Orbert the 'normal' things are really starting to be hazards to my health.  :lol Taking a bite out of a freaking Apple literally sent a lightning bolt like jilt through my upper back muscles and left me aching. WTF?

I was never a guy who 'feared' aging but it's almost comical that here the year i turned 40 I've had a host of minor muscle pulls and aches and pains I've never had before.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it only gets worse.  I was the same way. Oh, I had some back issues in my mid 20s, but was mostly pretty healthy and exercised frequently..and then I hit 40 three years ago and it has not been the same.  Getting older sucks.  :tdwn :tdwn
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2016, 06:52:51 PM
That's tame compared to the drinks today.

He'll, I seriously never met anyone that liked Mello Yellow. :lol


The only thing different today are the energy drinks. Soda is pretty much the same though.

And you definitely know someone who liked Mello Yello! :)

In fact I took my kids to a Five Guys and had a Mello Yello Zero out of the soda machine a few weeks ago.  :metal

I seriously didn't. I had a friend that loved TAB.  Worse drink ever.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 02, 2016, 06:56:05 PM
That's tame compared to the drinks today.

He'll, I seriously never met anyone that liked Mello Yellow. :lol


The only thing different today are the energy drinks. Soda is pretty much the same though.

And you definitely know someone who liked Mello Yello! :)

In fact I took my kids to a Five Guys and had a Mello Yello Zero out of the soda machine a few weeks ago.  :metal

I seriously didn't. I had a friend that loved TAB.  Worse drink ever.

Ugh. TAB is nasty. They made an energy drink a few years back which was even worse.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 06:59:07 PM
Yes, TAB is nasty, as is Dr. Pepper!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: millahh on August 02, 2016, 07:01:49 PM
Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
Yeah, probably.

Although I occasionally refer to the TV/Cable remote as a "clicker" and completely mystify my kids (as well as piss off my wife lol).

Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
I suppose that may be true in SOME parts of the South.  But I have lived in North Carolina all my life, and we certainly do not call every drink "Coke".  We refer to each drink by its actual name.

It's the same up here. Things are asked for by their name. Nobody asks for a Coke only to have someone bring them a Pepsi. That's like...grounds for death.  :lol

But what if all I wanted was a Pepsi?  And you wouldn't give it to me? Just one Pepsi?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
  Just one Pepsi?

How about a Pepsi One?

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 02, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
Yeah, probably.

Although I occasionally refer to the TV/Cable remote as a "clicker" and completely mystify my kids (as well as piss off my wife lol).

Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
I suppose that may be true in SOME parts of the South.  But I have lived in North Carolina all my life, and we certainly do not call every drink "Coke".  We refer to each drink by its actual name.

It's the same up here. Things are asked for by their name. Nobody asks for a Coke only to have someone bring them a Pepsi. That's like...grounds for death.  :lol

But what if all I wanted was a Pepsi?  And you wouldn't give it to me? Just one Pepsi?

Nope.   ;)   I guess you're stuck getting Institutionalized.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 02, 2016, 07:46:00 PM
Am I the only Fogey that refers to his iPod Classic as a Walkman?? :lol
Yeah, probably.

Although I occasionally refer to the TV/Cable remote as a "clicker" and completely mystify my kids (as well as piss off my wife lol).

Wait... are you from the south?  Down there, all drinks are "Coke".  Root beer is "Coke", Mountain Dew is "Coke", hell... Pepsi is "Coke".  So wrong.  But it would explain things.
I suppose that may be true in SOME parts of the South.  But I have lived in North Carolina all my life, and we certainly do not call every drink "Coke".  We refer to each drink by its actual name.

It's the same up here. Things are asked for by their name. Nobody asks for a Coke only to have someone bring them a Pepsi. That's like...grounds for death.  :lol

But what if all I wanted was a Pepsi?  And you wouldn't give it to me? Just one Pepsi?
NO! YOU'RE ON DRUGS!  :lol


And colors are not fucking flavors. Neither are atmospheric phenomenon. For a while gatorade (another genericized trademark) fulfilled some nutritional requirements, and the only flavors they sell are stupid Purple Fog, and Yellow Mist, and Blue Haze. You see that with all sorts of things now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 04, 2016, 09:06:06 AM
Yes, TAB is nasty, as is Dr. Pepper!

Dr. Pepper is AWESOME!!!  As well as being the original soda.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 04, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
Every once in a while I say, "I haven't had a Dr. Pepper in a while".  I take one sip and I have my answer to why.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 04, 2016, 09:16:58 AM
I remember liking it when I was a kid, but not so much anymore.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 04, 2016, 09:19:55 AM
I remember liking it when I was a kid, but not so much anymore.

That was onions for me as a kid but I love them now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 04, 2016, 09:28:13 AM
Onions are nasty!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 04, 2016, 09:29:03 AM
I have tendinitis in my left elbow. This morning I pulled a muscle in my right rib while pulling on my elbow support. *sigh*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 04, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
I have tendinitis in my left elbow. This morning I pulled a muscle in my right rib while pulling on my elbow support. *sigh*

This is a normal occurrence for us now.  Last fall I went on my roof to clean the gutters and clean my chimney.  Like a moron, I did not stretch and now both Achilles tendons ache every day.  I strained them and they just wont heal.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 04, 2016, 09:31:18 AM
Onions are nasty!

My mother's father used to peel white unions and eat them like an apple. He also would chop them into a bowl, cover them with milk, pour molasses over them and eat it up like breakfast cereal.

He lived to be 98.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 04, 2016, 09:34:49 AM
Onions are a staple in any healthy diet. However, I've never heard anything quite like that, Podrick.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 04, 2016, 09:49:38 AM
Grandpa Erickson was weird. He used to chew every bite 25 times. Exactly. No more no less.

We kids would sit there and silently count every one.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 04, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: millahh on August 04, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
Onions are nasty!

I had an onion tied to my belt, as was the style at the time...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 04, 2016, 10:11:12 AM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

Happy B-day, Orbert! And, many happy returns of the day.
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Post by: Prog Snob on August 04, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

You don't look a day over 55.  ;D  Happy birthday and I hope you enjoy the day.

Grandpa Erickson was weird. He used to chew every bite 25 times. Exactly. No more no less.

We kids would sit there and silently count every one.

Intriguing. That's what you have to look forward to. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Logain Ablar on August 04, 2016, 11:47:38 AM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

Happy birthday sir! Mine today as well - 41 and still none the wiser..
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Post by: King Postwhore on August 04, 2016, 11:49:38 AM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

Happy birthday Bob!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 04, 2016, 01:29:28 PM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

(https://img2.annthegran.com/StockDesign/medium/Machine_Embroidery_Designs/32616.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 04, 2016, 02:40:30 PM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

Happy Birthday O! It's The Lovely Mrs. TAC's birthday today too. You are one year older than her.
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Post by: Darkstarshades on August 04, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
Oldest confirmed DTF member?  Curiosity
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 04, 2016, 04:04:36 PM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

And I thought I was old... fuck, I'm gonna start calling you Moses.... :lol  You got like 16 months on me :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 05, 2016, 10:01:30 AM
Old as mold today, kids.  54.  Fifty-fuckin-four years old.  I need a nap.

Thanks for making me feel younger.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 05, 2016, 11:39:55 AM
Ah, the simple things.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on August 05, 2016, 11:58:58 AM
Oldest confirmed DTF member?  Curiosity

After Charlie Dominici, a cursory search of the calendar indicates it's user Franz, but he only posted like twice.  It could be someone else that hasn't listed their birthdate, though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 05, 2016, 12:08:22 PM
I'm the same age as Orbert...for a couple of weeks anyway.
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Post by: Orbert on August 07, 2016, 09:23:37 PM
Ah yes, I believe Mr. Peccary is my elder by a bit.  I'm not sure who's the eldest amongst regular posters.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 07, 2016, 09:29:55 PM
I'm so glad I'm not the oldest here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 09, 2016, 01:44:29 AM
I'm so glad I'm not the oldest here.

Me too!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 09, 2016, 05:18:40 AM
I'm so glad I'm not the oldest here.

Me too!  :biggrin:

Are there any forumers in their 60s here?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 09, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
:soon:
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Post by: TAC on August 09, 2016, 07:49:44 AM
 :lol
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Post by: Prog Snob on August 09, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
 :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 09, 2016, 03:31:10 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 23, 2016, 09:55:17 AM
We leave later today to drive 1000 miles to take my younger child to college, where we will leave her and see what happens.  Hopefully, we have prepared her for what awaits her, or at least as well as can be expected.

I love her dearly, of course, but I look forward to this.  In my philosophy, the purpose of life is to pass your genes on to the next generation.  Couple that with other things like "If you're going to do something, do it right" and you get the implied obligation to prepare your offspring for life as an independent being.  That obligation never ends of course, but this is an important step toward independence, an important milestone, and I always look forward to those.  I'm anxious to see how she does.  I'm curious to see how well-prepared she is, as that is largely a reflection of myself and her mother, as well as herself.

So this will be interesting.  Head out this afternoon, drive all day Wednesday, arrive Thursday morning.  Move an entire SUV full of stuff into a dorm room.  Leave Friday morning to come back to a somewhat emptier house (Son of Orbert still lives with us, but we don't see him a lot).  Mrs. Orbert will be crying during much of this.  I will be busy driving, and thinking about stuff, as always.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 23, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
Been there.

It's a good thing.
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 10:15:08 AM
Well, good lock with that, O!

Gonna be a long ride home.
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Post by: Scar on August 23, 2016, 08:27:27 PM
I'm not a fogey.... :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 23, 2016, 08:47:57 PM
We leave later today to drive 1000 miles to take my younger child to college, where we will leave her and see what happens.  Hopefully, we have prepared her for what awaits her, or at least as well as can be expected.

I love her dearly, of course, but I look forward to this.  In my philosophy, the purpose of life is to pass your genes on to the next generation.  Couple that with other things like "If you're going to do something, do it right" and you get the implied obligation to prepare your offspring for life as an independent being.  That obligation never ends of course, but this is an important step toward independence, an important milestone, and I always look forward to those.  I'm anxious to see how she does.  I'm curious to see how well-prepared she is, as that is largely a reflection of myself and her mother, as well as herself.

So this will be interesting.  Head out this afternoon, drive all day Wednesday, arrive Thursday morning.  Move an entire SUV full of stuff into a dorm room.  Leave Friday morning to come back to a somewhat emptier house (Son of Orbert still lives with us, but we don't see him a lot).  Mrs. Orbert will be crying during much of this.  I will be busy driving, and thinking about stuff, as always.

I'm sure she will succeed beyond all expectations.
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Post by: Orbert on August 28, 2016, 07:30:28 AM
Thanks, guys!  We are back.  The trip was a success, in that we made it there and back, and did all the we set out to do.
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Post by: TAC on August 28, 2016, 05:02:54 PM
Awesome!!
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Post by: LudwigVan on August 28, 2016, 05:23:58 PM
Both my kids graduated this past May,, so this is the first time in five straight years that I'm not doing the college drop off thing. I kinda miss it though. Even though there's always that element of stress for parent and child, they were always fun times for me.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 29, 2016, 07:37:49 AM
My youngest daughter (13) is starting school today (8th grade) in her new school.

For those not aware, we recently moved from a small town to a larger city, about 2 hours away.  The school she is starting today is much, much larger than her old school, and she knows no one.  She is very apprehensive, and my heart goes out to her.  I know this transition is going to be toughest on her.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 29, 2016, 09:23:29 AM
I'm sure she'll have no problem making new friends, but yeah, it's tough at that age changing schools and areas.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 30, 2016, 02:07:53 PM
My youngest daughter (13) is starting school today (8th grade) in her new school.

For those not aware, we recently moved from a small town to a larger city, about 2 hours away.  The school she is starting today is much, much larger than her old school, and she knows no one.  She is very apprehensive, and my heart goes out to her.  I know this transition is going to be toughest on her.

I'm thinking (hoping) she may find out quickly that it's neat being at a larger school.....more of a chance to meet and make friends with people that share her same interests and maybe more opportunities for activities. I hope that's the case for her and that the transition is smooth.

We are going through the same thing with our three sons. They've been private school kids for their schooling career thus far but we took them out and put them in public this year. Our oldest two (10,9) were a tad apprehensive as well...more because they were losing their friends and wouldn't know anyone. It's been two weeks and they've both made a handful of buddies already and seem to be handling it well. Our youngest simply can't be phased by anything so it's been no big deal to him either.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2016, 02:33:07 PM
Good luck to both of you and your children.

My 15 year old is entering 9th grade this year. He's my special needs guy so he's actually a year behind his age group. Anyway, for 7th grade, our town could not give him the services he needed so he attended the school in the next town over, which has a school population of 4-5x what we have. (We live in a small town). Both towns have the Middle and Senior High Schools in the same building.
I actually stepped down from my position at work to help the transition a couple of years ago. It's all worked out as he has had the best two years of school he has ever had.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 31, 2016, 07:38:23 AM
That's awesome, TAC.

So far, so OK for my daughter.  She has already met some people, and doesn't hate all of her teachers.  So that's good.

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Post by: chknptpie on September 16, 2016, 10:55:45 AM
Okay fogeys... I've got a conundrum that I want your feedback on. I feel like older folk would have a better mindset for my situation.

My husband has 2 friends, a couple. We have known them for years - him only a couple years longer than I. The wife likes to get stupid drunk at parties. As an example, the last party they were invited to at our house, 45 minutes after they arrived she was so drunk she spilled her drink all over our patio table and her husband decided it was time to go. The last party at their house that we went to, we arrived at 3pm and she was already hammered. When she gets hammered, she constantly tells me how much she loves me... over and over. How much she respects me that I don't get drunk, that I don't judge her, she wishes she could be like me. Now I don't mind that she gets drunk... what I mind is that she is an obnoxious, belligerent drunk that becomes obsessed with me. Which is a shame, I really like her sober and her husband.

So my conundrum is - we are going to their house for her bday party tomorrow. I've come to the conclusion that I think we need some sort of code word between my husband and I when I've had enough. My husband is extrovert, so he loves parties no matter what and doesn't seem to notice my torture. I'm an introvert and can only handle so much. How would you handle the situation?
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 16, 2016, 11:05:04 AM
The safeword is "NOW."
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Post by: Podaar on September 16, 2016, 11:23:29 AM
The safeword is "NOW."

Exactly.  :lol

In all seriousness, I'd say take to vehicles. When you've had enough, leave. Your husband can stay and enjoy himself as long as he wishes (or maybe take Uber if he's had a few). My guess is that he's not getting full enjoyment out of the event if he's worried about how you are handling it.
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Post by: chknptpie on September 16, 2016, 11:47:15 AM
The safeword is "NOW."

Exactly.  :lol

In all seriousness, I'd say take to vehicles. When you've had enough, leave. Your husband can stay and enjoy himself as long as he wishes (or maybe take Uber if he's had a few). My guess is that he's not getting full enjoyment out of the event if he's worried about how you are handling it.

My husband can definitely stay if he wants to, I wouldn't have a problem with that. I don't think he worries too much about me, but I also don't like to voice my feelings on the situation which is why it goes a bit unnoticed. I guess I'm trying to find a polite way to get out without drawing too much attention or being rude.

Although... my MIL is also supposed to show up... so can I just call in sick?  :lol
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Post by: Orbert on September 16, 2016, 11:51:19 AM
It sounds to me like he's not worried about it anyway.

Drive separately, leave when you've had enough torture.  Perhaps, in time, your husband will come to realize how bad this situation really is.
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Post by: Podaar on September 16, 2016, 12:02:32 PM
I don't think he worries too much about me,

It sounds to me like he's not worried about it anyway.

Yeah, I was probably projecting. I'd be concerned if my wife wasn't having a good time.
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Post by: Prog Snob on September 16, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
Okay fogeys... I've got a conundrum that I want your feedback on. I feel like older folk would have a better mindset for my situation.

My husband has 2 friends, a couple. We have known them for years - him only a couple years longer than I. The wife likes to get stupid drunk at parties. As an example, the last party they were invited to at our house, 45 minutes after they arrived she was so drunk she spilled her drink all over our patio table and her husband decided it was time to go. The last party at their house that we went to, we arrived at 3pm and she was already hammered. When she gets hammered, she constantly tells me how much she loves me... over and over. How much she respects me that I don't get drunk, that I don't judge her, she wishes she could be like me. Now I don't mind that she gets drunk... what I mind is that she is an obnoxious, belligerent drunk that becomes obsessed with me. Which is a shame, I really like her sober and her husband.

So my conundrum is - we are going to their house for her bday party tomorrow. I've come to the conclusion that I think we need some sort of code word between my husband and I when I've had enough. My husband is extrovert, so he loves parties no matter what and doesn't seem to notice my torture. I'm an introvert and can only handle so much. How would you handle the situation?

Me, being an introvert, would stay home, but I know you don't want to be completely rude. Just tell your husband ahead of time and explain it to him. There needs to be compromise between the two of you. I know he handles it better than you but that doesn't mean your contrasting nature should be completely dismissed. I've been there, many times. Tell him you want to stay for a little while but then that's it.
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Post by: chknptpie on September 16, 2016, 12:36:08 PM
Well I don't want to make it sound like my husband doesn't care, I'm sure he does. If I asked to leave, he would go with me, and has in the past. I just usually wait as long as I can hold out and would prefer not to this time. I'm sick of it and if the MIL is there, the torture will build quickly lol I'm also making him aware of the issue this time - hence thinking about using some sort of code word. I don't think he always sees the attention she gives me - we aren't always near each other at parties, etc.

Me, being an introvert, would stay home, but I know you don't want to be completely rude. Just tell your husband ahead of time and explain it to him. There needs to be compromise between the two of you. I know he handles it better than you but that doesn't mean your contrasting nature should be completely dismissed. I've been there, many times. Tell him you want to stay for a little while but then that's it.

Definitely. He saw the issue a bit more clearly at the last party and I made my feelings apparent. So this time I'm bringing it up before hand.
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Post by: Prog Snob on September 16, 2016, 12:41:51 PM
That's all you can do. I hope it goes well...the party that is. Just to go off on a tangent about this, I get really bad anxiety before things like that. My stomach gets all knotted and I feel like I just want to run and hide.
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Post by: TAC on September 16, 2016, 03:54:33 PM
Yeah, I would mention to him beforehand, that when you say it's time to go, it's TIME TO GO. When my wife and I are out or over someone's house, usually one of us will lean over and say "whenever you're ready" which is our code to GTFO.
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Post by: Podaar on September 16, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
I forgot to mention that Mrs.P and I have a code word for when it's time to go: Macaroon. We think it's fun to try and figure out how to work it into the conversation.  :)
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Post by: gmillerdrake on September 16, 2016, 05:23:40 PM
My wife knows that once we arrive anywhere it's about time to go because there's a 9/10 chance I didn't want to go in the first place.  So, I'm ready to leave after we say hi to the hosts.

But to answer the question i don't think you need a code word. He or you should just look at one another and give 'that' "let's get the  :censored out of here" look.
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Post by: chknptpie on September 18, 2016, 09:27:38 AM
Well yesterday went well for me. The wife has been dealing with health issues so wasn't drinking as much. Actually, rarely even spent time with us. So we hung out for 4-5 hours and then made our way out. No code word necessary lol
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Post by: Prog Snob on September 18, 2016, 09:48:16 AM
I was hoping for an incident.  :lol  Maybe next time.
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Post by: Orbert on September 18, 2016, 03:08:31 PM
That's good news, Tricia.  I'm glad there were no unpleasantries.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 19, 2016, 01:26:57 PM
I am almost always ready to leave any given event before my wife.  I like to say that her sense of time is off.  She has the gift of gab, and she will just talk and talk and talk.

My sense of "when it's time to go" is spot on, and I frequently have to announce it to her.
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Post by: chknptpie on September 19, 2016, 04:01:42 PM
I definitely fulfill the male gender role in the relationship. I'm more handy, I forget important dates/events, I'm not good at being romantic, he does all the cooking...
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 19, 2016, 04:42:26 PM
So you made the right choice!  I like that my wife and I areally different. It's what makes us individuals.   Yet, we find common ground together and we don't suffocate each other.
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Post by: TAC on September 19, 2016, 04:46:37 PM
I like that my wife and I areally different. It's what makes us individuals.   Yet, we find common ground together and we don't suffocate each other.

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55846077.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 19, 2016, 04:54:07 PM
I got this marriage shit down!
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Post by: chknptpie on September 19, 2016, 08:15:34 PM
So you made the right choice!  I like that my wife and I areally different. It's what makes us individuals.   Yet, we find common ground together and we don't suffocate each other.

For sure! We compliment each other well. I'm a worrier and act too old for my age, help him focus on things like getting a degree. He is a free spirit and brings out my inner child. We bring out the best in each other, that's all you can really ask for right? lol
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Post by: Prog Snob on September 20, 2016, 02:38:01 AM
Sorry, it's an OCD thing of mine.. *complement
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 20, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
I definitely fulfill the male gender role in the relationship. I'm more handy, I forget important dates/events, I'm not good at being romantic, he does all the cooking...
My wife is more handy, and I do the laundry.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on September 22, 2016, 08:22:54 AM
mine manages our money because I'm an idiot.

cooking is 60/40 split her way....I have my 5-6 meals I can make
cooker generally doesn't do the dishes

Laundry is 50/50 split but not really agreed upon who's turn it is...whoever is least busy starts it

Neither of us are handy.
We procrastinate and then pay someone to fix/mend/paint
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2016, 01:55:42 PM
So today I was stocking these:
(https://guideimg.alibaba.com/images/shop/67/08/01/8/domino-sugar-n-cinnamon-shakers-3-oz-12-count_1551208.jpeg)


But I couldn't help but think how cooler these were when I was a kid:
(https://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000043/43886a_lg.jpeg)

Anyone else collect them?
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Post by: El Barto on November 29, 2016, 02:06:27 PM
Don't even know what they are. Must be some yankee thing.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2016, 02:10:54 PM
They are cinnamon/sugar mix shakers. You don't have those down there? Who doesn't love cinnamon toast?

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Post by: El Barto on November 29, 2016, 02:16:03 PM
So as long as the thread's here, what are y'all old fart's experiences with eyesight? Specifically, people with good eyesight becoming nearsighted. In my case I had spectacular eyesight all of my life but now need reading glasses and I'll be bumping the strength up again pretty soon (only 1.0 at the moment, but it's still annoying). My overall vision is down to 20/25 from 20/10 L and 20/15 R (also known as Emmett Smith vision). Does the nearsightedness continue to worsen or does it his a floor? Regular vision also decrease?

I figure half the people here have already dealt with this (the other half just always wore glasses) so I'm curious what others' experiences have been.
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Post by: El Barto on November 29, 2016, 02:16:58 PM
They are cinnamon/sugar mix shakers. You don't have those down there? Who doesn't love cinnamon toast?
Who can't sprinkle cinnamon and sugar on their bread? Yeah, definitely a yankee thing.  :lol
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Post by: Samsara on November 29, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
I turned 40 this year. So now you all are stuck with me.  :rollin
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2016, 02:35:52 PM
So as long as the thread's here, what are y'all old fart's experiences with eyesight? 

I have to use reading glasses for a while now, but I chalked it up to being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes when I was 30. My eyesight has really gotten worse in the last 3-4 years, but my pancreas has been fucking with me. I finally had to start on insulin this year.
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Post by: El Barto on November 29, 2016, 03:04:38 PM
So as long as the thread's here, what are y'all old fart's experiences with eyesight? 

I have to use reading glasses for a while now, but I chalked it up to being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes when I was 30. My eyesight has really gotten worse in the last 3-4 years, but my pancreas has been fucking with me. I finally had to start on insulin this year.
Sorry to hear that. That blows.

The reading glasses most likely have more to do with your age than your health, though. What strength do you use and have you been steadily increasing them?
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
Thanks. I suppose there's worse though.


I actually haven't had an eye exam in a couple of years. I'm way overdue. They have seen "sugar" in my eyes, whatever that means. I'm not sure what my actual sight scores are. I think the last time I bought reading glasses they were 2.75. I don't get Rx. I usually get the cheapos at Job Lot.
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Post by: El Barto on November 29, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
Yup. Dollar Tree rules. I'll buy 10 pair and just leave them all over the place. Two in the car and four or five each at the shop and at home.

And yet I still never have them when I'm trying to read a menu.  :lol
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Post by: Samsara on November 29, 2016, 03:35:24 PM
Yup. Dollar Tree rules. I'll buy 10 pair and just leave them all over the place. Two in the car and four or five each at the shop and at home.

And yet I still never have them when I'm trying to read a menu.  :lol

 :rollin
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2016, 03:43:29 PM
Yup. Dollar Tree rules. I'll buy 10 pair and just leave them all over the place. Two in the car and four or five each at the shop and at home.

And yet I still never have them when I'm trying to read a menu.  :lol

Yup so true. Most of the pics I post of myself, you can usually see them hanging off my necklace.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2016, 04:16:48 PM
I break every reading glasses I get from the Dollar Store.   I play $8 at Walgreens and they last much longer.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2016, 04:31:03 PM
I break every reading glasses I get from the Dollar Store.   


I break reading glasses every time you flub a post! ;D

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Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2016, 04:32:30 PM
Last 2 days at work were very long and the boss was there so no playing on DTF. ;D
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Post by: El Barto on November 29, 2016, 05:39:39 PM
I break every reading glasses I get from the Dollar Store.   I play $8 at Walgreens and they last much longer.
That's weird. I don't carry readers so I don't break them. I also occasionally buy Dollar Tree fake aviators and those see rugged, daily use and last longer than most Cheap Sunglasses.

Anyhoo, how was your eyesight before the readers and what's the story with them?
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
Just readers so far.  I keep breaking the arms because the are not flexible.   The $8 versions have Springs on the arms.  When I put the glasses on top of my father head the arms would break.

My fault but I like leaving them on top of my head.
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Post by: Podaar on December 01, 2016, 06:57:30 AM
I have two permanent indention in my skull where the nose pieces of my glass rest on my head.

Trifocal patient here. Luckily, I'm nearsighted...kinda, so I see things close, better, with the nekid eye. Not great, but better.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2016, 07:11:22 AM
When you feel like a Mac Truck hit you with a cold and you know it will take weeks to get rid of it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2016, 07:39:25 AM
I break every reading glasses I get from the Dollar Store.   


I break reading glasses every time you flub a post! ;D



You liar. Nobody's that rich.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2016, 07:45:45 AM
Pshaw, that cheap bastard goes to the Dollar Store.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2016, 09:38:39 AM
Pshaw, that cheap bastard goes to the Dollar Store.

As I said, nobody's that rich.
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Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 09:47:05 AM
Fellow old fogies who need glasses for distance...when you are not wearing them on your eyes, do you store em on your head, in the case, or hanging on a necklace/off your shirt? I put them on my head, but I hate it. Fucking things always fall off, and then I look like an idiot trying to block off the area so I can retrieve them.  :rollin
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2016, 09:51:25 AM
Pshaw, that cheap bastard goes to the Dollar Store.

As I said, nobody's that rich.

You hurt me to the core.


:lol
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Post by: El Barto on December 01, 2016, 10:15:03 AM
Fellow old fogies who need glasses for distance...when you are not wearing them on your eyes, do you store em on your head, in the case, or hanging on a necklace/off your shirt? I put them on my head, but I hate it. Fucking things always fall off, and then I look like an idiot trying to block off the area so I can retrieve them.  :rollin
I always keep glasses (shades, mostly) hanging off my shirt. If I put them on my head I'll spend 15 minutes looking for them before I walk past a mirror and see them. Of course hanging off my shirt I can't see them through the beard, but that's where I'm used to my glasses being so I know to check their first.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 10:33:32 AM
Fellow old fogies who need glasses for distance...when you are not wearing them on your eyes, do you store em on your head, in the case, or hanging on a necklace/off your shirt? I put them on my head, but I hate it. Fucking things always fall off, and then I look like an idiot trying to block off the area so I can retrieve them.  :rollin
I always keep glasses (shades, mostly) hanging off my shirt. If I put them on my head I'll spend 15 minutes looking for them before I walk past a mirror and see them. Of course hanging off my shirt I can't see them through the beard, but that's where I'm used to my glasses being so I know to check their first.

 :hefdaddy
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2016, 12:01:39 PM
I also hang mine off my shirt.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2016, 12:48:49 PM
I do and all my tee shirt neck lines are stretched.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2016, 03:36:03 PM
My God, how did we get here? Somehow our life's discussion went from where do we stash the weed and the porn to where do we store our reading glasses.
 :facepalm:

Old. Fogeys.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2016, 03:37:41 PM
Now that I'm older I don't hide my porn. :hat
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Post by: El Barto on December 01, 2016, 03:41:03 PM
My God, how did we get here? Somehow our life's discussion went from where do we stash the weed and the porn to where do we store our reading glasses.
 :facepalm:

Old. Fogeys.
A natural progression since I don't even stash mine anymore. It's my place. If you don't like it GTFO. Damn shame, too, as my stash box/tray is pretty fucking cool.
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Post by: Orbert on December 01, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
Half and half here.  I don't "hide" the porn so much as keep it in a specific area of the hard drive on the PC my wife rarely uses.  She knows it's there, but out of courtesy to her, it's just as well that she doesn't stumble upon it.

As for the stash, we still keep that on the down-low, which is probably dumb since our daughter's off at college and our son is 24 and knows we partake anyway.  But if we do it in front of him, he might ask and we'd have to share, and he can buy his own damned stash.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2016, 01:07:20 AM
The problem is, if you don't find your glasses, your porn is useless because everything is blurred  :biggrin:
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2016, 04:11:38 AM
I have my special $10 pair at my computer.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cyclopssss on December 02, 2016, 05:15:13 AM
Watch once and delete, folks. Because I forget it's there and it just clutters up the harddrive...  :coolio
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2016, 07:50:14 PM
So, one of my guys is watching youtube videos of a 1000 degree knife cutting through stuff and starting fires. My other son says, "yeah, I've seen those videos."
I say, "Well I haven't seen those videos."
To which my 13 y/o replies, "Well, you're not up to date."

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on December 23, 2016, 08:42:18 PM
Well, you're not. Hence you being in this thread.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 24, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
So, one of my guys is watching youtube videos of a 1000 degree knife cutting through stuff and starting fires. My other son says, "yeah, I've seen those videos."
I say, "Well I haven't seen those videos."
To which my 13 y/o replies, "Well, you're not up to date."
He's right.

Check out the Slow Mo Guys on YouTube.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: carl320 on December 24, 2016, 07:42:52 PM
Also check out the Hydraulic Press Channel.  Quality Youtube content there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 25, 2016, 12:21:14 AM
The problem is, if you don't find your glasses, your porn is useless because everything is blurred  :biggrin:
As opposed to Japanese porn, where only the good parts are blurred.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on January 04, 2017, 08:17:30 AM
My God, how did we get here? Somehow our life's discussion went from where do we stash the weed and the porn to where do we store our reading glasses.
 :facepalm:

Old. Fogeys.

Hey, once I turned 40, I figured I'd get with the program.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 02:58:54 PM
This dude rocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie8eEJopUUQ

 :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 16, 2017, 06:27:01 AM
Nice!  :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 15, 2017, 11:46:42 AM
(https://imgur.com/uWZeYXu.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 11:48:14 AM
 :lol

Nice!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 17, 2017, 05:35:57 PM
...and then one day you find 10 years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run.  You missed the starting gun.


Yeah, that was a hell of a shock, wasn't it?  All through grade school and childhood in general, there was someone telling you "Okay, you need to do this now..." and "Hurry up, or you'll be late..." and other stuff.  Your parents, teachers, whoever.  Get the form signed or you don't get to go, pay the bill on time or they'll cut off you power, whatever.  But unless your high school or college graduation came with a nice sit-down talk from a parent or grandparent or someone, no one sat you down and said "Okay, your real life begins now.  Get your shit together, get a real job, start getting serious."  Or even if they did, you were too young and stupid to listen.  And because that never happened, you were somewhere in your 20's or 30's when you looked around and all your friends had real jobs, salaried not hourly, or better cars than you, or had bought their first house while you were still renting shitty apartments and splitting the rent with two other dudes.  They were taking their hot wives out to dinner while you were sitting on your ass eating pizza in front of the TV.  Wait, was I supposed to be doing something?  No one told me!

But eventually you got your shit together.  What's the next milestone, retirement?  As far as I can tell, that's one of the few officially recognized moments in life to celebrate that you've "made it".  Congratufuckinglations.  You worked a job for 30 years and have a bunch of money saved up for this moment, and now you're old and many of your body parts no longer function correctly and you're tired and achey all the time so you'll never really enjoy it.  But there you go.

In between graduation and retirement, though, at some point, the truly observant might notice that life is actually pretty good.  I think that that's what they mean by "stopping to smell the roses".

I work, and sure I'd rather not work, but my job isn't horrible.  I've done it for a while now, I'm pretty good at it, and they pay me well.  My kids turned out okay; they're not drug addicts or criminals.  I don't drive a Tesla or anything, but it's a nice sedan with a good sound system.  I can drive for hours and listen to tunes I've loved since junior high, loud and clear, sounding better than ever.  My iPod is basically a chip that holds hundreds of my favorite albums, and I can pull up any one of them in seconds.  I can take my family out for dinner once in a while just because I feel like it, just because today sucked and I need something good, or because today was good and I feel like celebrating.  I get to play rock and roll on weekends, and my band is getting pretty good.

I've always been pretty good about keeping my eyes on the prize.  In school, pass these classes, get these grades, and you will graduate.  At work, get this done, get that done, and you'll (hopefully) work your way up the ladder.  Do this for xx years, and you get to retire.  But what about in between?

My point is that just as no one told you when your "real life" started, no one's gonna tell you "by the way, things are pretty good right now."  You have to notice that yourself.  I'm 55 years old and there's no telling how much longer (or shorter) I have to live, but right now, things are pretty good.

I visited the secret stash recently, and stepped outside the back door to smoke a bit.  While I was standing there, it hit me.  This is my backyard.  It's not huge, and my house is not a mansion, but this is all mine.  My shed, my trees, my garden.  This is my SUV.  I live in a nice neighborhood in the suburbs, with good schools and low crime.  I've done it!  This is the life.  Yeah yeah yeah, only xx more years and I can retire.  But right now, this moment, things are pretty damned good.

Take time to smell the roses.  Don't be so focused on the next deadline or meeting, or doctor's appointment, or whatever the next short-term goal is, to not notice that years are passing by, they're pretty good in general, and you're missing it.

Enjoy life.  You've earned it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2017, 06:00:57 PM
I visited the secret stash recently, 

Obviously! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 18, 2017, 03:00:21 AM
So true and so obvious but we, as people, too often forget it.

Yeah, life is good.  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 18, 2017, 08:31:01 AM
It just seems to me that as you get older, life seems to go faster, and part of that effect is because we learn to plan things out for longer and longer terms.  When you're little, every day is an adventure.  Spending an entire day doing something is awesome.  A week vacation lasts forever.  Once Monday comes, next Saturday is way off in the distance, and you'll drive yourself crazy thinking about that big thing next month.

Then you start to think about things longer term.  In school, you have projects which are assigned now but due weeks or even months from now.  That takes planning.  At work, you have projects which last months, sometimes years, on a regular basis.  When you buy a car, you're tied into payments for 3, 4, 5 years, but along the way, there are checkpoints.  You're now halfway through it, then 3/4, then just a year to go, etc.  House payments are even worse.  We're 10 years into a 15-year mortgage.  I remember passing the halfway point and celebrating just a little bit inside my head.  Now we're 2/3 of the way done, and all I can think about is that I still have five years to go.  Let's just hope I still have a job for the next five years.

Kids of course are the ultimate long-term project, because it never ends.  But from the time they're born, you're already looking at the future milestones.  Once they start sleeping through the night, once they start walking, talking, feeding themselves.  Once they start school, when they graduate.  At any given moment, you're at a certain point in the progress from Point A to Point B in this project, but already on the way to Point C in another.  Life becomes a constant juggling act.  You don't have enough hours in the day, enough days in the week, to do everything you want to do and everything you need to do, so it's always a compromise, always a matter of budgeting time and looking for the most efficient use of your time.

My son is 24 now.  I think of many, many conversations my dad and I had when I was growing up.  Every weekend every summer, for years, we drove to the lake to go fishing.  That's an hour and a half in the car, each way, most of it just spent talking about stuff.  I looked forward to similar times with my own son, but they never happened.  30 years later, life is more complicated, there's so much more going on, plus I don't know if I ever really got my shit together as a parent.  I was always thinking about just getting through this week, just getting through this semester, just getting through this year.  When he graduated, I wanted to be proud, I wanted to think that he'd accomplished something and feel good that I'd helped him do it, but instead I just felt relief.  It's over!  Damn, we did it!  It just felt like something to check off the list.  Okay, that's done, what's next?  It's not the same thing.

I guess what I'm saying is that life is complicated and takes a lot of attention, there's always about 100 things you've got going on that you need to keep track of, what you're doing tonight, what you're doing this weekend, what you have coming up next month, and where you are in the preparation for every one of these things, and you have to take things one day at a time, but you can't let your life be literally about getting through each day and hoping the next will be better.  You're doing all this shit, but are you enjoying any of it?

Some of my friends talk about "bucket lists".  The list of things you want to do before you kick the bucket.  You don't want to be laying in a bed dying at some point, and think "I never got to do this... I never got to do that..."  You don't want to think that you were so busy getting through your life that you never actually enjoyed it.  You only go around once.  Make it count.  Work hard, bust your ass to get some of the things you want, but be sure to enjoy it during the process.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: LudwigVan on February 18, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
If I went on an esoteric quest to the furthest reaches of the globe to find the meaning of life, scaling the greatest peak in search of the mystical guru who could give me the answers, I'm pretty sure I'd find Orbert sitting at the top of a mist-shrouded shrine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 05:03:27 PM
If I went on an esoteric quest to the furthest reaches of the globe to find the meaning of life, scaling the greatest peak in search of the mystical guru who could give me the answers, I'm pretty sure I'd find Orbert sitting at the top of a mist-shrouded shrine.

Pretty sure he'd be sitting next to the LudwigVan statue.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 06:59:26 PM
Orbert, I hope you're just stoned and not just been given months to live. I think we'd all feel pretty bad.




That said, there is nothing better than looking out over the back yard and feeling contentment.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 18, 2017, 08:07:10 PM
Nah, just waxing philosophical.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 08:08:37 PM
Nah, just waxing philosophical.

Ok. I'm glad you're not dying!  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 20, 2017, 12:01:09 PM
Orbert, you're the man.

I endeavor to keep the important and good things in mind at all times.
Title: Personal Hygiene as Physical Therapy
Post by: Orbert on March 07, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
Personal Hygiene as Physical Therapy

Yeah, more philosophical meanderings from Orbert.

I was shaving, and of course that requires you to turn your head this way and that, tilt this way, lean forward, chin up, etc., and at some point my neck went "Crack!" and it felt really good.  Something that I didn't even realize was out of place was now back in place, and it felt good.  So good that I wanted to do it again, but alas.

Putting on the Speed Stick, I lift one arm at a time, and just for the hell of it, I decided to "reach for the sky".  Again, something in my shoulder or upper back snapped into place.  I thought about it, and realized that it's been a long time since I've done any stretching.  You know, just pulling your body in various directions, make sure the infrastructure is still working okay.  Getting dressed, I made a point of not just going through the motions, but when I bent down, I took a moment to hang that way, stretch the back.  Ahh!  Feels good.  Putting my shirt on, I reached waaay back, farther than I had to, just because I couldn't even remember the last time I reached around behind me.

We get into these routines, go through the same motions every day for years, and our bodies need that stretching more and more.  So now, I try to do that first thing every morning when I wake up.  Sometimes I can't because first thing in the morning I usually have to pee.  But if I can, I take a few moments and just stretch, laying there on the bed.  Left arm right leg, then right arm left leg, pull.  You're getting old, your body has been through hell and back, but you just finished your rest cycle so this is about as good as it's gonna get.  Stretch.  Get the blood flowing.  Start your day just a little better.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 07, 2017, 11:18:05 AM
I pulled a front rib muscle while trying to scratch my back. Now every time I lift my coffee cup I make a kind of weesing-grunty sound.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 07, 2017, 11:24:16 AM
I pulled a front rib muscle while trying to scratch my back. Now every time I lift my coffee cup I make a kind of weesing-grunty sound.

Now that's fucking old!  :lol

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 07, 2017, 11:26:41 AM
 :lol

My Achilles hurt every day, my hip is bothering me and my eyes are dry all the time.  Fuck you old age! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on March 07, 2017, 11:31:27 AM
I pulled a front rib muscle while trying to scratch my back. Now every time I lift my coffee cup I make a kind of weesing-grunty sound.

See, if you stretched regularly, that might not have happened.  If only I had thought to post this sooner, we could have avoided all this unpleasantness.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 07, 2017, 11:32:10 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 07, 2017, 11:54:30 AM
:lol

My Achilles hurt every day, my hip is bothering me and my eyes are dry all the time.  Fuck you old age! :lol

Hey....my achilles has actually been giving me probs lately.  We have a very high energy dog now, Mini Bull Terrier, and to burn her energy I skateboard a couple miles down the beach boardwalk with her.  My push off foot (achilles) has really started to bother me, and I can only manage a few days a week.  That shit never happened when I was young  :-\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 07, 2017, 12:02:54 PM
Mine was being on our roof cleaning the chimney with the brush kit and holding your body up at the 45 degree angle.  My weight doesn't help either.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 07, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
Mine was being on our roof cleaning the chimney with the brush kit and holding your body up at the 45 degree angle.  My weight doesn't help either.

That should be a job you pay some youngster to do  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 07, 2017, 12:11:44 PM
I know!  Next time I will!  All my nephews are grown up with full time jobs except my bother's son who is 3 months short of 5 years old.

Get up there son! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 07, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
I'm often surprised at the things I'm willing to pay to have done that I used to accomplish without thought. I pay a guy to keep our yard fertilized and trimmed. Once per week we have a housekeeper come in and clean the bathrooms, kitchen, dining room, living room and entertainment room. I paid a kid to put up and take down our Christmas lights this year. Now I'm considering paying someone to repaint our bedroom! I used to love to paint.

Saturday, I switched the TV on to watch the Mexico Championship (Golf) and when I got comfy in the recliner with my glass of bourbon, I realized that I'd left the remote on the bar. I literally waited for Mrs. P to wander by and offered to pay her a dollar to fetch the remote for me. Can you believe she flipped me off?!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 07, 2017, 12:24:11 PM
Yes I can.  Yes I can.   Been there, done that. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2017, 12:40:32 PM
I'm often surprised at the things I'm willing to pay to have done that I used to accomplish without thought. I pay a guy to keep our yard fertilized and trimmed. Once per week we have a housekeeper come in and clean the bathrooms, kitchen, dining room, living room and entertainment room. I paid a kid to put up and take down our Christmas lights this year. Now I'm considering paying someone to repaint our bedroom! I used to love to paint.

Saturday, I switched the TV on to watch the Mexico Championship (Golf) and when I got comfy in the recliner with my glass of bourbon, I realized that I'd left the remote on the bar. I literally waited for Mrs. P to wander by and offered to pay her a dollar to fetch the remote for me. Can you believe she flipped me off?!

Thankfully, I have teenagers for that.

So many things just ache - my left hip was bugging me for about 3 weeks last October; right now it's my left elbow, and my lower back.  I try to stretch periodically throughout the day.  My RMT moved a few years back, and I haven't bothered to find a new one - which is just dumbass stupid... I have $400/year in both chiro and massage that is covered through benefits.  Free money I need to get back to taking advantage of.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 07, 2017, 12:41:03 PM
So next time you'd better offer her $5   ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 03:08:47 PM
I'd hire someone to put my socks on.


Does this ever happen to anyone else?:
When you look down and realize you have to tie one of your shoes, and then you do a little dance, trying to figure out what knee put down.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on March 08, 2017, 09:03:51 AM
Can't say that's ever happened to me Tim.  I look for the nearest place to sit.   :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 08, 2017, 11:28:05 AM
There's nothing more humbling/devastating to a man's ego than getting the 'Sir' from a young, attractive woman.

Just snagged a Smoothie for lunch and the young lady working handed it to me and shot me the 'Thank you, have a great day Sir'...  :(

I'm a happily married man so it's not as if I'm looking to 'pick up' chics or what not, but in my mind I'm in no way a 'Sir'....I'm still the strapping young lad I've always been.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 08, 2017, 11:42:31 AM
There's nothing more humbling/devastating to a man's ego than getting the 'Sir' from a young, attractive woman.

Just snagged a Smoothie for lunch and the young lady working handed it to me and shot me the 'Thank you, have a great day Sir'...  :(

I'm a happily married man so it's not as if I'm looking to 'pick up' chics or what not, but in my mind I'm in no way a 'Sir'....I'm still the strapping young lad I've always been.

Please calm down....Sir.....  :biggrin:


I hear ya though...I've noticed the same, and yeah... I cringe every time.


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 12:12:41 PM

Just snagged a Smoothie for lunch and the young lady working handed it to me and shot me the 'Thank you, have a great day Sir'...  :(
But it probably says in the training manual to address old men, er, I mean adult males as "sir".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 12:13:34 PM
I'll take 'sir' anytime.  I usually get "creepy old fuck".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 08, 2017, 12:16:14 PM
I wear my "Sir" proudly.  Youngsters should respect their elders.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 08, 2017, 12:31:32 PM

Just snagged a Smoothie for lunch and the young lady working handed it to me and shot me the 'Thank you, have a great day Sir'...  :(
But it probably says in the training manual to address old men, er, I mean adult males as "sir".

especially when they have white and silver starting to dominate their beard    :(


I wear my "Sir" proudly.  Youngsters should respect their elders.

I do appreciate the respect.......just can't seem to get over the fact I'm actually a 'Sir' now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on March 08, 2017, 12:32:56 PM
I got a "damn, you're older than my father!" from some asshole that carded me at a club last year.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 12:35:20 PM
I hope you replied with:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VLxSVa7RyoE/VYYNfOy7YpI/AAAAAAAAGzU/K4v7XGpK4W4/s1600/tumblr_mnexz0nOFa1spxu9so1_500.png)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 09, 2017, 02:46:08 PM
I got a "damn, you're older than my father!" from some asshole that carded me at a club last year.

That's when you realize your looks are younger than your age.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 09, 2017, 08:27:46 PM
I got a "damn, you're older than my father!" from some asshole that carded me at a club last year.

That's when you realize your looks are younger than your age.

They probably have to card everyone, but..you keep telling yourself that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 10, 2017, 04:11:01 AM
I never get carded anymore. I'm waaaaaay past looking young.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 10, 2017, 03:56:10 PM
Saw this in the Reading Thread:

Walking With the Wind: A Memoir of the Movement -- John Lewis
My first thought was a fogey passing gas.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 10, 2017, 03:59:02 PM
 :lol

Yeah, (perhaps) an unfortunate title but the subject matter is dead serious so your joke makes me quite uncomfortable.  :blush
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 10, 2017, 04:05:58 PM
What is it about?

Edit: Nevermind.  Googled it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on March 10, 2017, 04:56:28 PM
I got a "damn, you're older than my father!" from some asshole that carded me at a club last year.

That's when you realize your looks are younger than your age.

They probably have to card everyone, but..you keep telling yourself that.
That's like the first time I was carded in 5 years or so. I've got just enough gray in my beard that there's really not much of a question about it. When I do it's a new hire, the TABC has recently busted the place, or it's mandatory per policy. At the club (which I'll be at this evening to see Saxon/UFO, in fact) is almost certainly the latter.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on March 12, 2017, 09:20:13 AM
Dental opinion needed.  If anyone here has partial denture, how long did it take you to get used to the partial?  I am still hoping to save my current 3 tooth bridge(tooth, blank, tooth), but will not know until the dentist pulls the bridge and checks the condition of one of the anchor teeth.  If the anchor tooth is still good, he will root canal the tooth and then fit me for another 3 tooth bridge.  Intitially he was going to just do a root canal thru the bridge, but there infection in the root as well as around the gum of the anchor tooth.

When the dentist mentioned partial denture, I cringed thinking of my mother and others I knew that had a full set of dentures. :omg:

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 12, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
No advice available here - I still have all my chicklets
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 12, 2017, 08:38:25 PM
I HATE root canals.  Have never had a pleasant one.  Matter of fact, next time my dentist tells me I need one, I will be looking at other options.  Like an implant or just yanking it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 06:22:39 AM
Didn't really know where to put this, but since it's mostly fogeys that will appreciate this, I figured this was the best place (and forgive me for bragging).

As of this morning, I'M MORTGAGE FREE!

With the separation package I got, I was able to paydown the last chunk of my mortgage - and perfect timing, it was up for renewal yesterday, so I didn't get hit with any early-pay penalties!

:woot:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 12, 2017, 06:26:00 AM
And so young still Chad.  That is awesome!!!!



So,I've got to take me dad next Tuesday for a Cat Scan assisted biopsy.  The other Cat Scan showed a plum sized growth in his top part of his right lung.  We are all trying to be optimistic but 6 years ago my mom dies of lung cancer and both my parents smoked like a chimney.  Scary times for us.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 12, 2017, 06:30:01 AM
Didn't really know where to put this, but since it's mostly fogeys that will appreciate this, I figured this was the best place (and forgive me for bragging).

As of this morning, I'M MORTGAGE FREE!

With the separation package I got, I was able to paydown the last chunk of my mortgage - and perfect timing, it was up for renewal yesterday, so I didn't get hit with any early-pay penalties!

:woot:


That is awesome!! That day is so far away for me that it seems like it'll never come.    Congrats  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on April 12, 2017, 06:32:14 AM
Woohoo for Chad! We're still four years from paying off our mortgage, but the end is in sight.

King, I'm sorry for you and your Pop. I wish you all the best of luck and the skill of medical science.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 12, 2017, 07:21:09 AM
Didn't really know where to put this, but since it's mostly fogeys that will appreciate this, I figured this was the best place (and forgive me for bragging).

As of this morning, I'M MORTGAGE FREE!

With the separation package I got, I was able to paydown the last chunk of my mortgage - and perfect timing, it was up for renewal yesterday, so I didn't get hit with any early-pay penalties!

:woot:
:djhef:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 07:38:40 AM
So sorry to hear that King.  Hopefully it's a different result from your mom.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 12, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
So,I've got to take me dad next Tuesday for a Cat Scan assisted biopsy.  The other Cat Scan showed a plum sized growth in his top part of his right lung.  We are all trying to be optimistic but 6 years ago my mom dies of lung cancer and both my parents smoked like a chimney.  Scary times for us.

Ugh! praying for the best for you and your family
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 12, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
Thank you guys.  It's been very hard since we lost my mom to lung cancer 6 years ago.  Trying to stay positive.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 12, 2017, 10:44:29 AM
Sucks Joe.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 12, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Thanks Tim.  He so weak from the MS and not taking care of himself I'm worried about him after the procedure and if it is cancerous and he has to go through chemo/radiation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 12, 2017, 11:42:39 AM
Well at least he has you. Advantage: Pop! :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 12, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
 :)

And my brother and our wives.  We are all pitching in.  Can't say it's been easy but I love dad.  I would do anything for him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on April 12, 2017, 04:35:11 PM
Hope it works out for the best.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 12, 2017, 04:48:28 PM
Me too EB.  Thank you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on April 13, 2017, 07:20:56 AM
Am I supposed to get dizzy while clipping my toenails? I don't remember this happening before. It would be easy to blame it on my age, but I suspect my expanding waistline is somehow cutting off circulation to my brain.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 13, 2017, 07:23:14 AM
I'd just be happy you can reach your toes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 13, 2017, 07:31:41 AM
I'd just be happy you can reach your toes.

That's my line. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on April 13, 2017, 08:01:36 AM
I guess. What am I supposed to do when I can't reach them? Call in Mrs. P for and assist? I don't think she'll be very keen.

Speaking of which, I've noticed my ass-hole seems to be getting farther away. It used to be just there. Now it's clear around the corner and way over there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 13, 2017, 08:25:19 AM
Am I supposed to get dizzy while clipping my toenails? I don't remember this happening before. It would be easy to blame it on my age, but I suspect my expanding waistline is somehow cutting off circulation to my brain.

Is that smell that faint-inducing?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on April 13, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
Am I supposed to get dizzy while clipping my toenails? I don't remember this happening before. It would be easy to blame it on my age, but I suspect my expanding waistline is somehow cutting off circulation to my brain.

Is that smell that faint-inducing?

As you fully well know, I'm fresh as a daisy "down there", PS. I scrub it with vigor and purpose every morning, just for you!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 13, 2017, 08:40:35 AM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 14, 2017, 10:22:06 AM
I guess. What am I supposed to do when I can't reach them? Call in Mrs. P for and assist? I don't think she'll be very keen.

Speaking of which, I've noticed my ass-hole seems to be getting farther away. It used to be just there. Now it's clear around the corner and way over there.

As long as I can still see my junk while showering..I'm OK!  The asshole things pretty funny though... :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 28, 2017, 08:27:35 AM
My granddaughter turned sixteen last week. Surprisingly, that made me feel kinda old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 28, 2017, 08:40:02 AM
No kids or grandkids here.  I feel young.  :p
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 28, 2017, 08:41:13 AM
My granddaughter turned sixteen last week. Surprisingly, that made me feel kinda old.

My middle son is turning 10 on Saturday. I know there are a host of you here who have kids that are older than that.....so I'm getting to experience what y'all have gone through and it's just plain weird. I now have (2) kids in the double digit age range......and my youngest who although he's still only 7 thinks he's 23.

The passage of time has seemingly sped up somehow.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 28, 2017, 08:42:48 AM
It get's a lot faster, Gary. Enjoy the slower pace while you have it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2017, 08:50:38 AM
It get's a lot faster, Gary. Enjoy the slower pace while you have it.

I don't know if it's a function of aging in general, or a function of seeing your kids age ... but holy shit, "where does the time go" is a common feeling. 

Gregg... you're one old mofo!  jingle.kids just turned 17 last month, and you got a grand-daughter almost the same age.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 28, 2017, 08:55:20 AM
Yup. My eldest just turned 37 in August.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on September 28, 2017, 11:16:46 AM
My granddaughter turned sixteen last week. Surprisingly, that made me feel kinda old.

My middle son is turning 10 on Saturday. I know there are a host of you here who have kids that are older than that.....so I'm getting to experience what y'all have gone through and it's just plain weird. I now have (2) kids in the double digit age range......and my youngest who although he's still only 7 thinks he's 23.

The passage of time has seemingly sped up somehow.

I laugh at you.  I have a son who's 24 (and a new dad), daughters who are 19 years old and 16 years old, and a son who's nine.   The nine year old is a breeze. 

GMD, I don't know you THAT well, but I do perceive you as a man of values and discipline with your kids (and rightfully so).   At nine, or ten, the inputs they are getting are almost all YOURS (i.e. you and your wife and your family).   Even the stuff they get from their friends is likely filtered through their parents, so it's manageable.    As you get to the tweens and beyond, that goes out the window, HARD.   I'm not even talking about "video games" and "rap music".  I'm talking about where their values are tested in real time in ways that we NEVER had to deal with as a kid.  Sending and receiving pics of boobies.  Harmless, right?  Like "Grease", where Danny reaches over and tries for Sandy's booby and is shut down, right?  Nah.   Some jurisdictions are prosecuting that as child porn.   These are real-time decisions that impact the rest of their lives.  I don't know about you, but I wasn't ready at 18 to make some of the decisions that kids at 12, 13 are making.   

Sorry to be so negative; of course the other side is wonderful as well.  I couldn't be prouder of all my kids.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2017, 12:41:08 PM
Way to kill the vibe, Bill.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on September 28, 2017, 01:07:17 PM
Way to kill the vibe, Bill.   :biggrin:

Huh... I've never done that before.  ;)  :) 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
Way to kill the vibe, Bill.   :biggrin:

Huh... I've never done that before.  ;)  :)

 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 28, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
Well, that's it.  Turn on the television then.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 28, 2017, 02:40:28 PM
Damn...smells like ben gay up in here!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 28, 2017, 03:02:15 PM
One of the truly delightful aspects of getting older is the comedic opportunities of being in an office full of people over 55 that don't hear as well as the might. Whether from selective hearing (due to diminished brain capacity) or actual hearing loss, there is a never ending stream of misheard sentences.

"Did you get your new ear piece today?" Will variably heard as "hair piece", "ear pierce", "hair tease", or "herpes" depending on how far down the hall one is.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on September 29, 2017, 09:13:55 AM
I'm only 37 and already feeling it.  A few weeks ago, I spent 4 hours straight on my knees, putting together a new dresser for my soon-to-be-born son.  I was constantly kneeling, twisting, shifting and turning while working on it.  A day or two later, my right knee felt awful - it hurt to bend and move, depending on how I was sitting or walking. 

I determined that it was probably a form of burstitis (called floor-layers/roofer's knee) where people who spend a lot of time on their knees burst the fluid sacs around the joint, causing pain.  I could walk (so it wasn't some sort of ligament damage), but it was so uncomfortable.  It went away after 2-3 weeks and is mostly back to normal now. 

Other than the aches and pains of doing physical work, I seem to be in very good shape and health still.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 29, 2017, 09:27:15 AM
I've saved a lot of wear and tear on my knees by religiously using knee pads and/or our Racatac:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ERzgux6NL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg)

I can highly recommend it if you can afford it!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on September 29, 2017, 09:31:23 AM
Not sure if I need that for basic housework, but a pair of kneepads is definitely in my future after this experience. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 29, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
I use mine weekly (during the summer) while cleaning the wheels on my cars. Otherwise, it's only truly handy when you're doing anything in the house involved with flooring. But yes, general yard work and such a decent pair of knee pads are a must.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 29, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
It also doubles for begging the wife to go out with the guys.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
It also doubles for begging the wife to go out with the guys.

Hopefully it doubles as something for the missus' too.  :heybaby:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 29, 2017, 10:27:07 AM
You guys are old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on September 29, 2017, 10:31:16 AM
One of the truly delightful aspects of getting older is the comedic opportunities of being in an office full of people over 55 that don't hear as well as the might. Whether from selective hearing (due to diminished brain capacity) or actual hearing loss, there is a never ending stream of misheard sentences.

"Did you get your new ear piece today?" Will variably heard as "hair piece", "ear pierce", "hair tease", or "herpes" depending on how far down the hall one is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB5HsDRRPRY
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 29, 2017, 10:55:35 AM
 :lol

"I'll give you my herpes for a souvenir."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2017, 12:02:23 PM
You guys are old.

I think the word you're searching for is "seasoned"... or perhaps "distinguished".

It's ok youngling... your vocabulary will develop in time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 29, 2017, 12:05:19 PM
You guys are old.

I think the word you're searching for is "seasoned"... or perhaps "distinguished".

It's ok youngling... your vocabulary will develop in time.


:rollin

Let's go with ancient.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 29, 2017, 12:20:29 PM
Jay, stop being so credulous.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 29, 2017, 12:25:50 PM
You guys are old.

I think the word you're searching for is "seasoned"... or perhaps "distinguished".

It's ok youngling... your vocabulary will develop in time.


:rollin

Let's go with ancient.

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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on October 02, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
That's my line. Get off my post.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 05, 2017, 08:00:53 PM
Gonna rant a bit.....

Weekends are valuable time. One thing that really ticks me off is when I have to 'waste' this time on instances that I really don't see the point in participating in. I am facing two such instances this weekend. Tomorrow night my wife has invited a group of friends (that we just saw last weekend) over to our house for another get together. Don't get me wrong...like the people well enough and I like getting together but, we just saw them last week. Really don't need a repeat gathering so soon. Plus, a couple of the guys in this group are tough to talk to...very dry and frankly boring.  It'd be a neat experiment but I'd be willing to bet I could type out the minimal, emotionless conversation I'll end up having with them right now....record the actual conversations that night....and they'd be spot on...because why???.... it's the same topics and points every time. Ugh!! Not trying to be mean but just being honest. In my eyes if spending time with friends was the point of tomorrow night she should have targeted a different group of friends to do it with, ones that we haven't seen in a while. But...whatever....I'm obligated now due to her commitment.

Saturday my wife agreed to visit one of her former co-workers of which I HAVE to go because literally the last five times she's went over to see her or they've came here I've either stayed home or left. Again, it's the husband. dude is no fun at all to hang with and I know (from my wife) that he has cheated on his wife and I've witnessed him wasted and he's just not nice. So, I don't like hanging out with the guy. He and his wife are working through the infidelity and working on saving their marriage....good for them....they have three young sons our kids age so I'm glad they didn't just throw in the towel....but, I simply don't like the guy. But, being that I've skipped so many of these get together's...again, I'm obligated to go.

So simply put...due to obligation I'm going to have to waste my Weekend nights this weekend on situations I would prefer not to be in. I'll try to make the best of them I suppose but bottom line is I really just felt like whining and pouting about it.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 05, 2017, 08:03:43 PM
I'd tell Mrs. Drake that you expect a hummer Sunday morning.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2017, 08:17:05 PM
I'd tell Mrs. Drake that you expect a hummer Sunday morning.

 :lol  Let me know how that works out.

I hear ya Gary... the only thing that helps me in those situations is Scotch.  Sadly... not an option on your end.  :dunno:  Maybe you can spontaneously start suffering from migraines?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 05, 2017, 08:21:22 PM
Tell the Mrs. you're running a roulette on DTF!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 05, 2017, 08:30:04 PM
I'd tell Mrs. Drake that you expect a hummer Sunday morning.

 :lol  Let me know how that works out.

Actually.....I'm beginning to piece together the courtesy hummer this afternoon now. It wasn't shortly after that I got the 'oh, by the way...remember we're going to Sarah's on Saturday and we're having the St. John's group over tomorrow night'.   :\   


I hear ya Gary... the only thing that helps me in those situations is Scotch.  Sadly... not an option on your end.  :dunno:  Maybe you can spontaneously start suffering from migraines?

Unfortunately my go to vice....coffee...will do me no good in either instance. I can wing tomorrow night by creating a massive bonfire in the new patio fire pit....tomorrow won't suck as bad I suppose. But Saturday is just going to be a real turd. Unless I buy home opener Blues tickets then pass it off like I 'won' them...so then I'd have to go to the Blues home opener?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 05, 2017, 08:43:18 PM
"So honey, I was listening to TAC and JBoy, yeah, you've probably never heard of them, but they were giving away tickets on WDTF and I was the 69th caller!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 05, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
"So honey, I was listening to TAC and JBoy, yeah, you've probably never heard of them

she knows of Chad as "my Canadian Friend"   :lol   If were ever texting or happen to be talking on the phone and she asks who I'm talking to I just say "Chad, my Canadian Friend from the Forum" I usually get some sort of eye roll or other method of making fun of me because despite having been on this forum coming up on 7 years now....she still thinks it's 'weird' that I have communication with any of you guys outside this forum. Heck, the first time KevShmev and I went out and grabbed wings she looked at me like I had 4 eyes.  :lol   She can't understand it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2017, 08:58:00 PM
Always happy to be the token "Canadian Friend".  You, on the other hand, are known to Mrs.jingle and the jingle.kids as "that rage posting St. Louis Blues fan".   :lol

Actually, you're the guy I glitter bombed - jingle.kids helped.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 05, 2017, 09:42:53 PM
Always happy to be the token "Canadian Friend".  You, on the other hand, are known to Mrs.jingle and the jingle.kids as "that rage posting St. Louis Blues fan".   :lol

Actually, you're the guy I glitter bombed - jingle.kids helped.

Ugh! That was SO much glitter.  :lol

I'm working on my rage posts towards the Blues. I thought i was more controlled last season....only dolling them out when applicable rather than on every occasion.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2017, 05:47:35 AM
Always happy to be the token "Canadian Friend".  You, on the other hand, are known to Mrs.jingle and the jingle.kids as "that rage posting St. Louis Blues fan".   :lol

Actually, you're the guy I glitter bombed - jingle.kids helped.

Ugh! That was SO much glitter.  :lol

I'm working on my rage posts towards the Blues. I thought i was more controlled last season....only dolling them out when applicable rather than on every occasion.

Yes, you were very restrained last year.  Still, the one where you posted all the pictures of the game book (didn't you take a sharpie to every page or something?) .... that was epic.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on October 06, 2017, 06:07:41 AM
Keep it down with all the joyfulness in here! I'M TRYING TO SLEEP, GODDAMNIT!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 06, 2017, 06:20:01 AM
When I get home todsy it's nap time. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 06, 2017, 06:31:12 AM
Always happy to be the token "Canadian Friend".  You, on the other hand, are known to Mrs.jingle and the jingle.kids as "that rage posting St. Louis Blues fan".   :lol

Actually, you're the guy I glitter bombed - jingle.kids helped.

Ugh! That was SO much glitter.  :lol

I'm working on my rage posts towards the Blues. I thought i was more controlled last season....only dolling them out when applicable rather than on every occasion.

Yes, you were very restrained last year.  Still, the one where you posted all the pictures of the game book (didn't you take a sharpie to every page or something?) .... that was epic.

It was me flipping each individual player off....and they each deserved it that year.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on October 09, 2017, 09:58:25 AM
I just received word: My daughter-in-law has started labor. Grandchild #6 is on her way!  :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on October 09, 2017, 10:15:34 AM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on October 09, 2017, 10:31:30 AM
Thanks, Orbert!

It should be a fun week of cigars, Scotch and snuggling a fresh human. I love welcoming a new member to the family.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 09, 2017, 10:51:10 AM
That's awesome news!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 09, 2017, 11:45:45 AM
Awesome Gregg!!  :tup     
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2017, 12:55:57 PM
Awesome!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
I just received word: My daughter-in-law has started labor. Grandchild #6 is on her way!  :hat

Fuck you're old.   :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on October 09, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
She was born at 12:30! Mother and baby are doing great.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
She was born at 12:30! Mother and baby are doing great.

 :tup :tup 

Also, pics (eventually) or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 09, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
I just received word: My daughter-in-law has started labor. Grandchild #6 is on her way!  :hat

Fuck you're old.   :D

Gregg needs to start a new thread....geared towards Grandparents. They could discuss the latest flavor of Ensure...newest cataract surgery techniques....and hone their 'back in my day' quotes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 09, 2017, 01:26:17 PM
She was born at 12:30! Mother and baby are doing great.

Awesome
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2017, 01:29:51 PM
I just received word: My daughter-in-law has started labor. Grandchild #6 is on her way!  :hat

Fuck you're old.   :D

Gregg needs to start a new thread....geared towards Grandparents. They could discuss the latest flavor of Ensure...newest cataract surgery techniques....and hone their 'back in my day' quotes.

He could start it with a d Depends vs Attends poll.   :lol
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Post by: Podaar on October 09, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
She was born at 12:30! Mother and baby are doing great.

 :tup :tup 

Also, pics (eventually) or it didn't happen.

Gotta wait until I hear from Mrs. P about how soon she can leave. My son and his family live five hours away so I've got some packing, shopping (see aforementioned scotch and cigars), booking a hotel, and driving to do. I don't know when I'll be able to post pics...it may be a day or so.

I'm pretty stoked...can't wait to see little baby Isla!
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Post by: Podaar on October 09, 2017, 01:33:39 PM
I'm in too good of a mood to let you young'n's bother me. Have your fun!
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2017, 01:35:52 PM
I remember being in school, and the period right before man invented fire was called the Podaaric Period.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 09, 2017, 02:07:46 PM
I remember being in school, and the period right before man invented fire was called the Podaaric Period.


yeah...I recall reading about a man named Gregg who convinced a buddy of his he had since elementary school who then became pope.....Pope Gregory XIII.....to scrap the Julian Calendar and introduce the new improved Greggorian one.
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2017, 02:26:37 PM
I remember being in school, and the period right before man invented fire was called the Podaaric Period.


yeah...I recall reading about a man named Gregg who convinced a buddy of his he had since elementary school who then became pope.....Pope Gregory XIII.....to scrap the Julian Calendar and introduce the new improved Greggorian one.

Yup, and came up with that chant while they were at it.
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2017, 06:56:32 AM
It's been a whirlwind, couple of days...fun though! Okay, Chad, here's the pics.

Meet Isla
(https://i.imgur.com/qoejv2Z.jpg)

Papa, gets to hold Isla when the women folk finally relent.
(https://i.imgur.com/GcXFW5p.jpg)

Isla getting adored by her Mom and big brother.
(https://i.imgur.com/IGtUrJz.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 07:08:34 AM
Awesomesauce!  Is the "s" silent?  I'm thinking in my head 'eye-la'
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
Aye, that's how they pronounce it...and thus, me to.

Although, us Scotch drinkers are tempted to pronounce it 'EES-la', yes?  :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 12, 2017, 07:21:14 AM
Awesome, just awesome.  Congrats Papa!
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2017, 07:22:16 AM
Thanks, King.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 12, 2017, 07:23:58 AM
Congrats  :metal

I love it when the small ones are so new that they still look "crinkled".  :biggrin:

Oh, and did anyone ever tell you, that you look (a little bit) like Peter Gabriel?
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 12, 2017, 07:44:49 AM
That is so awesome Gregg.....happy for you and your family!
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2017, 08:00:20 AM
Oh, and did anyone ever tell you, that you look (a little bit) like Peter Gabriel?

No, but ProgSnob swears I look just like Fish (from Marillion).
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Post by: Tick on October 12, 2017, 11:08:03 AM
Congrats! :tup
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2017, 09:28:00 AM
So, I was spending sometime with my grandson, River, on Wednesday (I hadn't seen him in two years) and we were walking through his backyard. He suddenly says, "Papa, I really feel sorry for Steve."

"Oh?"

"Yeah, we don't let him out much... He doesn't have a very good life." River said, with a sad and overly serious face for a seven-year-old.

I started trying to remember if my daughter-in-law's brother is named Steve. He's in his thirties and has fetal alcohol syndrome and lives in an assisted care facility.

"That's sad, Riv."

"Yeah, my Dad says he needs to be with his kind so were gonna give him to a ranch."

I started wondering if I needed to go through the closets in the house looking for an abductee or maybe call the cops or something.

"Wait a minute, Riv. Who's Steve?"

He pointed over at a low four-foot square wire cadge next to the back porch. It had a couple of random sized pieces of plywood over the top and a cinder block perched on top. I had walked past the thing a few times assuming it was just more of the random flotsam my son kept in his back yard. Looking more carefully, I noticed a white pile of fluff and realized there was a lop eared bunny curled up tightly in the corner. I looked down at my grandson and burst out laughing.

"You named your rabbit, Steve?"

He laughed with me, although with an uncomprehending expression. "Yeah, like the guy on Minecraft."

Three days later, I still can't stop laughing about it.

 :rollin :rollin
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 13, 2017, 09:52:04 AM
I understand the hilarity of it all Gregg.....I bought the boys a Crested Gecko and my two oldest let my youngest name it.....he named it "Mike". Not some cool, strange....reptilian like name....just, Mike.

My wife and I still laugh when they talk about 'Mike', who's going to feed him etc etc. It's just weird.
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Post by: Orbert on October 13, 2017, 10:03:58 AM
My friend Chris years ago adopted a cat, and their family couldn't agree with a name for it.  I suggested Steve, because no one names pets like that.  It's always "Fluffy" or something.  They named the cat Raisins.



"Raisins"?
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
That would actually be a better name for the rabbit.  :lol

The bottom of the cage does look rather like the floor of a raisin packaging factory.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2017, 11:28:08 AM
...or Cocoa Puffs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 13, 2017, 11:37:53 AM
...or Cocoa Puffs.

M&Ms
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 13, 2017, 02:32:28 PM
I told my wife when we were looking to get 2 cats that if both were males I wanted to name them Lenny & Squiggy.  Well it was a boy and a girl so she won and named them Harry & Sally.  Funny thing is it's not about the movie.  Dirty Harry Callahan (Giggity) and she always loved the name Sally for a girl.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2017, 02:35:25 PM
I told my wife when we were looking to get 2 cats that if both were males I wanted to name them Lenny & Squiggy.  Well it was a boy and a girl so she won and named them Harry & Sally.  Funny thing is it's not about the movie.  Dirty Harry Callahan (Giggity) and she always loved the name Sally for a girl.

Sure it isn't. :neverusethis:

It's OK.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 13, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
No, I thought is was too but she swears it's not.  That's the reaction I get all the time. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
She's a good wife. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 13, 2017, 02:47:20 PM
Messin' with me all the time! :lol
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2017, 02:49:10 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rXIZ4EhOPpptK/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Orbert on October 13, 2017, 02:56:27 PM
One of my buddies from college has two sons.  He named the first one Daniel, after his father, and the younger one is Jack, after his wife's father.  So the boys are named after their two grandfathers, Jack and Daniel.

(https://imgur.com/v29LnYM.jpg)

They never noticed, never even thought about it, until one of their other friends pointed it out.
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2017, 03:29:43 PM
Back to old talk.

My business partner--he's the principal share holder and is 62--really loves Poo-Pourri air freshener. He gets annoyed when other people in the office don't use it prior to snapping a fish. As you probably know, it only works as a preventative. But most of us with an occasional bout of IBS don't think ahead very well when the most pressing imperative is to get ones pants down and get pointed in the correct direction prior to the spontaneous evacuation event. Even he, on occasion, has forgotten and being the eldest of us all the consequences are usually dire.

Thus, he invented and installed this today:

(https://i.imgur.com/I2E3waT.jpg)

The bent aluminum plate has a spring under it that can resist the weight of the toilet seat but not the additional weight of a person. So, a normal standing piss is unaffected, but have a bit of a sit-down and the lever engages a bulb (which having already siphoned a small quantity from the bottle) then squirts the delightful citrus-oil into the bowl to blanket the water. Viola, auto Poo-Pourri.

The receptionist took one look at it and asked if we now had security cameras in the toilet.  :lol

Closed seat view.

(https://i.imgur.com/yqCXV1f.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2017, 03:33:32 PM
...most pressing imperative is to get ones pants down and get pointed in the correct direction prior to the spontaneous evacuation event..

A premature evacuation. :neverusethis:
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2017, 03:34:43 PM
Otherwise known as Smegland Rectal Seepage.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 13, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Why, you got a camera in my toilet?  :lol
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Post by: Orbert on October 13, 2017, 04:48:03 PM
Okay, I have to admit, that's actually a pretty clever invention.  I've always been one to dream up clever ways to solve problems, but never have the initiative to put them into action.  Forging something like that from raw materials is pretty cool.

On the other hand, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??  Auto Poo-Pourri dispenser??
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 13, 2017, 04:55:55 PM
I want to be proud that I heard somebody scream how horrible that smell. is.  I always fess up proudly.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2017, 05:35:34 PM
Please tell me it doesn't come in Kingshmegland scent.
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 06:20:33 AM
Well, I've joined the ranks of the daily pill takers. I held out for all these years, and if I'd taken better care of my body I'd probably be able to avoid it.

Got the high blood pressure, as Archie Bunker would say. And it's pretty frighteningly high. And after a week of taking beta blockers it's still high as fuck. I wish the Doc would have told me that you may not see results until after a couple weeks of taking the meds. I had to read it on the interwebs to find out.

Also, it looks like I may have a ulcer. Going in next Wednesday to get my stomach scoped...kind of a colonoscopy but from the other end. I sure hope they use a different scope!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2018, 06:24:57 AM
My sister used to say she had a headache in her leg when she was little.  You're just having a colonoscopy in your throat  :lol

Had one myself (called a gastroscopy down this way) and it's definitely preferable to the other end .  Might not even need to go under - I just had a sedative and some anaesthetic spray on the back of the throat. 

Best of luck with it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2018, 06:39:53 AM
Thankfully, everything is still A-ok here... though I've got my annual physical next week.  Still holding off on the mining expedition, but with a family history of pollups and a couple of forms of cancer (my dad's side), it's an inevitability.
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 06:47:10 AM
A colonoscopy isn't that bad, Chad. The prep the night before is worse than the procedure or the recovery. Considering what can be found and eliminated while it's not yet a problem, it is so worth it. Schedule the procedure today!

You really, really, don't want colon cancer!
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 06:49:27 AM
My sister used to say she had a headache in her leg when she was little.  You're just having a colonoscopy in your throat  :lol

When my eldest daughter was about three years old, she would belch and say, "Oops, I farted out my mouth, Daddy."
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2018, 06:50:33 AM
Well, I've joined the ranks of the daily pill takers. I held out for all these years, and if I'd taken better care of my body I'd probably be able to avoid it.

Got the high blood pressure, as Archie Bunker would say. And it's pretty frighteningly high. And after a week of taking beta blockers it's still high as fuck. I wish the Doc would have told me that you may not see results until after a couple weeks of taking the meds. I had to read it on the interwebs to find out.

Also, it looks like I may have a ulcer. Going in next Wednesday to get my stomach scoped...kind of a colonoscopy but from the other end. I sure hope they use a different scope!

Got to get it done!  I got the letter for my colonoscopy since in 12 days I'll be 50.  I had the endoscopy as well as colonoscopy at the same time 10 years ago.  I joked that it was like a pig roast.  Poles in both ends. :lol


Yes the prep the night before is brutal.  Green water shooting out.  The procedure you are out.  You don't feel a thing.  You wake up and are very hungry and woozy from being put out.
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2018, 07:22:31 AM
My sister used to say she had a headache in her leg when she was little.  You're just having a colonoscopy in your throat  :lol

When my eldest daughter was about three years old, she would belch and say, "Oops, I farted out my mouth, Daddy."

Takes after her old man. :neverusethis:
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Post by: Stadler on March 01, 2018, 07:24:16 AM
I was scared shitless before my colonoscopy (I do NOT like being put out; I don't' think I've ever taken a sedative in my life - not counting alcohol; you know what I mean) but after?  It was like waking up after the best nap I've ever taken in my life.  I was hungry - no shit, the prep is brutal - but it's like that roller coaster ride that LOOKS scary, but isn't really.
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 07:34:46 AM
My sister used to say she had a headache in her leg when she was little.  You're just having a colonoscopy in your throat  :lol

When my eldest daughter was about three years old, she would belch and say, "Oops, I farted out my mouth, Daddy."

Takes after her old man. :neverusethis:

Kinda explains my breath, eh?
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 01, 2018, 08:09:16 AM
Good Luck Gregg. Hopefully it's not an ulcer.  Did they say that your BP is something you can get under control and eventually get off the meds or is this meds from  here on out?


I'm 42 and have yet to even do the fun prostate visit.  :(  I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that I 'need' to start thinking about some of these 'old guy' Dr. Visits.
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Post by: El Barto on March 01, 2018, 08:29:29 AM
My understanding is that colonoscopy as a routine preventative thing is on its way out. I gather PSA is becoming predictive enough to cover most people.

@Gregg--How high was your BP? Is one beta blocker all they gave you? Which one? Some work fast as hell and some are maintenance. I generally didn't get along with beta blockers, but thankfully there are a ton of different routes they can go. Seems to me that doctors generally have their preference, possibly related to quality of swag and the length of skirt their rep wears, but if you have any issues you can with any number of options.
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:29:51 AM
We'll have to see, Gary.

She (my doctor) definitely said that if I got more exercise and more roughage in my diet--thereby shedding some pounds--that could help a lot. Of course, she also is on me to quit smoking but my her own admission I don't smoke enough (about six cigarettes per day) to account for how sky high my pressure is... 168 over 116. Keep in mind that in 2014 it was 130 over 86 and I was roughly in the same shape I am today, so something has changed.

I'll take these beta blockers, daily, for about a month and then get a full physical to see where we're at. Hopefully it's not a symptom of something more serious. I'll admit, I worry about it a little. You know what they say, once a cancer-patient always a cancer-patient.  :P
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:33:15 AM
EB,

I don't remember what type. I'd need to check the bottle when I get home. I think it started with an "A" and yes, only one pill per day.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2018, 08:36:19 AM
Don't go down that rabbit hole.  Always think positive!!!


Gary, I had issues and they thought at one point in my early 40's that I had Celiac's disease.  Do I had both tests done.  It wasn't hard at all.  It's the night before and the cleansing of the bowls that's, well, let's say enlightening.
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Post by: El Barto on March 01, 2018, 08:42:24 AM
If you haven't already, buy a cheap BP monitor (or two, one for work) and check your BP a few times a day. Just standing in a Dr's office adds quite a bit. You might find it's quite a bit lower throughout the day.

And while 168-116 isn't healthy, you're not going to pop or anything. That's something you'll easily get under control and probably isn't doing any damage yet.


edit: Oh, and even in the hospital getting numerous fast acting meds IV, it still took 5 days to get mine under control.
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
I already have two (Mrs. P has had high blood pressure for 15 years--although she's nearly at the point that the doctors want to take her off them), a full arm cuff fancy Omron one that goes "bing", and one of those cheap wrist ones.

And while 168-116 isn't healthy, you're not going to pop or anything. That's something you'll easily get under control and probably isn't doing any damage yet.

I'm going to ask my doctor why she couldn't have told me this! :getoffmylawn:

Thanks, EB!
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Post by: El Barto on March 01, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
I already have two (Mrs. P has had high blood pressure for 15 years--although she's nearly at the point that the doctors want to take her off them), a full arm cuff fancy Omron one that goes "bing", and one of those cheap wrist ones.

And while 168-116 isn't healthy, you're not going to pop or anything. That's something you'll easily get under control and probably isn't doing any damage yet.

I'm going to ask my doctor why she couldn't have told me this! :getoffmylawn:

Thanks, EB!
Because she wants to you take it seriously and it really does need to be brought down. I had a doctor let me off the hook with very similar BP, which is to say that he told me to change my diet, exercise, and we'll see where it goes. In retrospect had he put me on meds then and there (which I would have resisted) it might have delayed a fair amount of grief.
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Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:56:53 AM
See, this conversation is exactly what me and my siblings used to make fun of our parents, grandparents and aunts and uncles for. Sitting around at family gatherings comparing ailments, medications, health advise.  Fogy thread indeed! :lol
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Post by: millahh on March 01, 2018, 09:30:54 AM
Is the BP stress-related?  Mine had shot up quite a bit above normal (~150 top number), then came back down to ~120/80 once I'd rearranged my life (and mind) a bit to address it.
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Post by: Grappler on March 23, 2018, 07:34:51 AM
Got the big "snip snip" yesterday.  The procedure wasn't too bad.  They prescribed me a valium to take an hour beforehand to help me relax. It was a no needle, no incision procedure, which has a quicker recovery time.  Doctor was quite cool and we talked about metal music and concerts during the procedure.  He said he saw the Stones in the Aragon ballroom (5000 capacity venue), which is pretty awesome.

Numbing was delivered by an air blast of lidocaine, which felt like a few flicks to the beanbag.  Unpleasant, but not painful like a few jabs with a needle down there.  Procedure felt weird...no pain, but pressure as he worked and manuvered and held various parts of my anatomy.  Plenty of swelling afterwards, which was weird to see and feel.  Pain is manageable with some norco and tons of icing, but still slightly uncomfortable if I move a lot.  Today is day 2 of being on the couch, so hopefully by tonight or tomorrow I'll be back to normal. 
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 23, 2018, 07:57:56 AM
Got the big "snip snip" yesterday.  The procedure wasn't too bad.  They prescribed me a valium to take an hour beforehand to help me relax. It was a no needle, no incision procedure, which has a quicker recovery time.  Doctor was quite cool and we talked about metal music and concerts during the procedure.  He said he saw the Stones in the Aragon ballroom (5000 capacity venue), which is pretty awesome.

Numbing was delivered by an air blast of lidocaine, which felt like a few flicks to the beanbag.  Unpleasant, but not painful like a few jabs with a needle down there.  Procedure felt weird...no pain, but pressure as he worked and manuvered and held various parts of my anatomy.  Plenty of swelling afterwards, which was weird to see and feel.  Pain is manageable with some norco and tons of icing, but still slightly uncomfortable if I move a lot.  Today is day 2 of being on the couch, so hopefully by tonight or tomorrow I'll be back to normal.

I recommend another full day tomorrow of laying around. I've known guys that feel better on day 3 and get up and do 'normal' activities then that's when the issues start. When I had mine I was three straight days laying down in bed rotating the ice packs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2018, 08:05:33 AM
I recommend another full day tomorrow of laying around. I've known guys that feel better on day 3 and get up and do 'normal' activities then that's when the issues start. When I had mine I was three straight days laying down in bed rotating the ice packs.

This. So. Much.  The urologist I had (almost 15 years ago now) said he only did the procedure on Friday mornings to give people the entire weekend.  He had one (moron) client that went water-skiing over the weekend, and by Monday had two grapefruits between his legs.

Bag of frozen corn, and lots of TV in bed is how I spent that weekend.  Sadly, Netflix wasn't a thing back then.
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2018, 08:22:27 AM
The above three posts is why I always recommend a hysterectomy!  :biggrin:
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 08:31:56 AM
 :lol

The only time a I need a bag of frozen corn down there is to cool it down.  :heybaby:
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Post by: Grappler on March 23, 2018, 10:52:49 AM
I'm doing as much resting and icing as possible.  With a nearly 3 year old and 6 month old kids, I have to help out occasionally.

Wife gave birth twice, so it was my turn to endure the procedure.  Plus it's much less invasive than having her tubes tied.  Though it certainly felt invasive to me, knowing what was happening as I was laying on that table with my junk showing through a surgical drape.  The urologist made me start laughing when he was cauterizing after the snip, saying "if you see smoke or smell something burning, don't worry....its just your balls"   :lol
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Post by: T-ski on March 23, 2018, 10:55:12 AM
Got the big "snip snip" yesterday.  The procedure wasn't too bad.  They prescribed me a valium to take an hour beforehand to help me relax. It was a no needle, no incision procedure, which has a quicker recovery time.  Doctor was quite cool and we talked about metal music and concerts during the procedure.  He said he saw the Stones in the Aragon ballroom (5000 capacity venue), which is pretty awesome.

Numbing was delivered by an air blast of lidocaine, which felt like a few flicks to the beanbag.  Unpleasant, but not painful like a few jabs with a needle down there.  Procedure felt weird...no pain, but pressure as he worked and manuvered and held various parts of my anatomy.  Plenty of swelling afterwards, which was weird to see and feel.  Pain is manageable with some norco and tons of icing, but still slightly uncomfortable if I move a lot.  Today is day 2 of being on the couch, so hopefully by tonight or tomorrow I'll be back to normal.

got snipped back in November.  if you do absolutely nothing for 2 to 3 days and ice all the time you'll be feeling normal pretty quick.  the doctor that did mine said he likes to play music during the procedure and most guys ask to hear "Big Balls".  I requested "Leave that Thing Alone" by Rush but he messed it up somehow.  rather he messed up the song than the procedure.

not surprisingly he said getting snipped is most popular around March Madness.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2018, 11:40:00 AM
I'm doing as much resting and icing as possible.  With a nearly 3 year old and 6 month old kids, I have to help out occasionally.

Wife gave birth twice, so it was my turn to endure the procedure.  Plus it's much less invasive than having her tubes tied.  Though it certainly felt invasive to me, knowing what was happening as I was laying on that table with my junk showing through a surgical drape.  The urologist made me start laughing when he was cauterizing after the snip, saying "if you see smoke or smell something burning, don't worry....its just your balls"   :lol

Goodness gracious!
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Post by: Tick on March 23, 2018, 11:45:22 AM
A colonoscopy isn't that bad, Chad. The prep the night before is worse than the procedure or the recovery. Considering what can be found and eliminated while it's not yet a problem, it is so worth it. Schedule the procedure today!

You really, really, don't want colon cancer!
Words of wisdom! The prep is way worse than the procedure. Not eating for 24 hours plus shitting out a river definitely is the suck ass part. The procedure itself is not big deal at all. Do it for yourself, but more importantly, do it for your family!
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Post by: Tick on March 23, 2018, 11:47:00 AM
By the way...
I'm having hernia surgery April 9th. Good times! :tup
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 11:53:46 AM
By the way...
I'm having hernia surgery April 9th. Good times! :tup

I hear the procedure is way less evasive and recovery time is much less these days.
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2018, 11:55:56 AM
I had hernia surgery last summer!!
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Post by: Tick on March 23, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
By the way...
I'm having hernia surgery April 9th. Good times! :tup

I hear the procedure is way less evasive and recovery time is much less these days.
That's good to hear. I was told to plan on taking a week before returning to work. Does that sound about right?
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 11:59:50 AM
TAC is better suited to tell you.  I've never had one but friends of mine had the surgery and that's what they told me.  I don't quite remember the timetable.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2018, 12:01:42 PM
A colonoscopy isn't that bad, Chad. The prep the night before is worse than the procedure or the recovery. Considering what can be found and eliminated while it's not yet a problem, it is so worth it. Schedule the procedure today!

You really, really, don't want colon cancer!
Words of wisdom! The prep is way worse than the procedure. Not eating for 24 hours plus shitting out a river definitely is the suck ass part. The procedure itself is not big deal at all. Do it for yourself, but more importantly, do it for your family!

April 6th.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 23, 2018, 12:02:57 PM
When I got snipped the Dr. had told me at the consultation to shave the area prior to coming in. Wasn't very specific. So, morning of I'm in the shower and started prepping the area......yadda yadda yadda.....twenty minutes later I had razor shaved from about 6" above my knees to right around my belly button. ALL gone....smooth as a baby's bottom. I'll admit....I got a little carried away  :lol

So, fast forward to getting into the room and this Medical Assistant comes in......she couldn't have been a day over 21, probably had just graduated whatever 2 year program a week before......pretty cute.....and she instructs me to remove my clothes and lay on the table and cover myself with the linen.

She comes back in.....just her and I'm laying there and she comes over with a bottle of iodine or something.....lifts the linen and immediately notices I had deforested my entire lower half and made the comment that I had taken the preparation pretty serious. She then just begins to manipulate Jr. down there spreading the iodine or whatever it was all over. It was such a weird feeling because until that moment it'd been 8 years since any other woman other than my wife had 'handled' me so intimately  :lol   

I was so uncomfortable I blurted out......"So, my name's Gary and I enjoy hiking and playing golf"  She just grinned a bit and went about her business. It was such an awkward experience. Then the Dr. comes in and got a look at the excessive manscaping I had undertook and said "Looks like you covered prepping the area" in a funny/sarcastic type tone.
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Post by: Tick on March 23, 2018, 12:09:47 PM
A colonoscopy isn't that bad, Chad. The prep the night before is worse than the procedure or the recovery. Considering what can be found and eliminated while it's not yet a problem, it is so worth it. Schedule the procedure today!

You really, really, don't want colon cancer!
Words of wisdom! The prep is way worse than the procedure. Not eating for 24 hours plus shitting out a river definitely is the suck ass part. The procedure itself is not big deal at all. Do it for yourself, but more importantly, do it for your family!


April 6th.
:tup
(https://images.991.com/large_image/Muddy+Waters+I+Cant+Be+Satisfied-546844.jpg)
Some nice music to help pass the time on prep day! :biggrin:
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
By the way...
I'm having hernia surgery April 9th. Good times! :tup

Good luck, Tick.

I had hernia surgery last summer!!

How the hell did you get a hernia? You don't even do yard work!!

April 6th.

Excellent!

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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2018, 01:05:05 PM
I had hernia surgery last summer!!
How the hell did you get a hernia? You don't even do yard work!!

Hah!  I popped it a few years ago throwing the spare tire on top of the van before a Disney trip. I didn't even notice it until I was getting into the shower the next day. I didn't know what it was. I thought I had a giant tumor. I frantically called my doctor, and the receptionist, THE RECEPTIONIST!, says "yeah, it's probably just a hernia."


That's good to hear. I was told to plan on taking a week before returning to work. Does that sound about right?

I work in a grocery store, lifting and such, and I was out 2 1/2 weeks. I went back with no restrictions. My doctor said that the sooner I can return to normal activity, the better.

They sent me home with some Oxy's. I really tried to not take them. The first day or so wasn't bad, as the anesthesia was still lingering, and I probably was too active in the house that first day and then BAM! I was in PAIN! I ended up taking 3 or 4 Oxy's, but more or less walked the line of OD'ing on ibuprofen. For a couple of days, I literally need my son to pull me off the couch. I couldn't do it on my own.





As far as getting snipped, thankfully I didn't have to.
The Lovely Mrs TAC is five years older than me. She had our youngest when she was 39. I offered to get snipped, but she was on the pill, and it kept her "regular", until being regular was no longer an issue.



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Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
When I got snipped the Dr. had told me at the consultation to shave the area prior to coming in. Wasn't very specific. So, morning of I'm in the shower and started prepping the area......yadda yadda yadda.....twenty minutes later I had razor shaved from about 6" above my knees to right around my belly button. ALL gone....smooth as a baby's bottom. I'll admit....I got a little carried away  :lol

So, fast forward to getting into the room and this Medical Assistant comes in......she couldn't have been a day over 21, probably had just graduated whatever 2 year program a week before......pretty cute.....and she instructs me to remove my clothes and lay on the table and cover myself with the linen.

She comes back in.....just her and I'm laying there and she comes over with a bottle of iodine or something.....lifts the linen and immediately notices I had deforested my entire lower half and made the comment that I had taken the preparation pretty serious. She then just begins to manipulate Jr. down there spreading the iodine or whatever it was all over. It was such a weird feeling because until that moment it'd been 8 years since any other woman other than my wife had 'handled' me so intimately  :lol   

I was so uncomfortable I blurted out......"So, my name's Gary and I enjoy hiking and playing golf"  She just grinned a bit and went about her business. It was such an awkward experience. Then the Dr. comes in and got a look at the excessive manscaping I had undertook and said "Looks like you covered prepping the area" in a funny/sarcastic type tone.

Oh gawd... I'm in tears I'm laughing so hard.  :lmao:

#coolstorybro
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 01:30:45 PM
Gary that story is amazing! :lol

I have a horror story to tell that All will laugh at the end.




Does anybody want to cry from laughing so hard?
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 23, 2018, 01:38:08 PM
Does anybody want to cry from laughing so hard?

Of course!!
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 04:16:10 PM
So before I when through chemo, I had to get my spleen out.  It grew to 4 times the average size. Once they took it out I was in the hospital for 3 weeks.  I couldn't get the fever down that was 104.   That was constant.  They decided to put me in a thermal bag.  It could either heat you up or cool you down.

The main nurse during the day told me told me what the gameplan was to lower my temp.  The nighttime nurse came in and set me up.  See had a rectal thermometer that she had to insert so they could monitor my temp.  That was no fun.

So I woke up in the morning to the main nurse screaming at the night time nurses.

"What are you doing!  You set the bag to 50 degrees!  You could have given him hypothermia"1

So she turns it off and unzipped the bag only to lose it again,

"Why did you use the rectal thermometer?!  He's not incapacitated!  You could take his temperature ever few hours orally"!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 23, 2018, 04:35:09 PM
 :omg:   :lol


Be honest, you requested the rectal thermometer?
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2018, 04:44:31 PM
Read the nurses quotes with a Soprano's Jersey accent! Just do it.

You're welcome.

 :rollin
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 04:48:08 PM
 :lol

That was a rough night of sleep with something up inya.  :lol

The look on that nurses face of horror.  I can laugh about it now.
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2018, 05:25:04 PM
Hey, King. If you went camping and woke up with your hands duct taped behind you, pants around your ankles, and a condom hanging out of your ass...would you tell anyone?
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2018, 05:28:21 PM
Hey, King. If you went camping and woke up with your hands duct taped behind you, pants around your ankles, and a condom hanging out of your ass...would you tell anyone?

I think he just did!  :neverusethis:
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2018, 05:37:07 PM
Hey, King. If you went camping and woke up with your hands duct taped behind you, pants around your ankles, and a condom hanging out of your ass...would you tell anyone?

Hey, at least it was a female!!
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2018, 05:44:52 PM
 :lol
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Post by: Orbert on March 23, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
Had the C-scope done today.  I'm 56 this year, but this was my first.  I know, I was bad.  But I finally did it, so ha!

Two polyps found and removed.  If they're not pre-cancerous, I'm good for another 10 years.  If they're pre-cancerous, do it again in five.  The guy doing the scoping has been doing it for 24 years.  He said we will wait for the biopsies for the official word, but in his opinion, they looked pre-cancerous.  Nothing to worry about, but we will definitely check again in five years.  Okay.
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Post by: Podaar on March 24, 2018, 06:44:04 AM
Excellent, Orbert! Best of luck on the biopsy.
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Post by: Orbert on March 24, 2018, 08:33:38 AM
Thanks.  I'm expecting them to be "pre-cancerous", since the guy doing it said they looked like it to him, and he's got 24 years of experience, but when one of the choices is "cancerous", then I'll take "pre-cancerous".  It just means that they may have developed into something bad, but no biggie, they're gone now.  If they'd been "just weird bumps" then I'd be clear for 10 years.  If it takes five years for anything to even grow into something dangerous, then okay, I guess we'll check again in five years.

Disgusting graphic report of prep - skip if you can't handle the truth

People kept telling me that the prep for the procedure is much worse than the procedure itself.  True, since I was under general anaesthesia for the procedure, therefore it was nothing.  But I was expecting 24 hours of near-misery as the prep, and to be honest, it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd expecting.  Not exactly fun, but literally painless.

The stuff you drink is obviously meant to clean you out.  It's a liquid that fools your body into getting routed through the solids channel, which it flushes out on its way through.  Diarrhea is usually fucking tragic, but on my second or third trip to the bathroom, it occurred to me that the one thing that makes diarrhea so tragic is the pain.  Your bowels are wringing themselves to get whatever is in there the hell out.  In this case, I knew what going on, and there was no pain at all.  There was the weird feeling of liquid passing through the solids channel, and the associated mess at the exit point, but really, that was it.

I took the day off, and just sat at the computer most of the day, playing games and surfing the net.  Every 20 minutes or so, I'd get the notification that I needed to walk the 20 feet to the bathroom.  Okay.  From what I'd heard, I was expecting to have literally 2 seconds to get my ass there and bare or there would be a tragedy.  No, not at all.  The notification was pretty normal, I head to the bathroom, pass some stuff in two or three "rounds", then clean up as usual.  15 or 20 trips total over five or six hours, then I went to bed.  I actually thought that maybe I was doing it wrong.  Again, it wasn't a walk in the park, but it wasn't the hours of agony and discomfort I'd been expecting.  Oh yeah, I was pretty stoned, too.  That probably helped.  No fucking way was I going to face this event sober, the prep or the procedure.

Next morning, day of the procedure, I drank the other half gallon of prep stuff.  Lemon flavored, also not nearly as horrible as I'd been led to believe.  This time I starting getting nauseous, so I visited the top shelf of the closet, stepped out the back door for a few minutes, and no more nausea.  My wife said that that was a bad idea, since it does dehydrate you, and also I will be going under general anaesthesia.  Yep, both true.  But I didn't care.  I'm not going to be nauseous for the next three hours, and if I don't get quite as clean inside as they'd like, well, they've seen worse I'm sure.

I just don't care any more.  I'm going to be on a table, unconscious, as a guy runs a camera up my ass, and actually does a snip or two while he's in there, I'm gonna face this my way.  After a total of about six hours, I'm sure the non-tobacco had worn off, but waking up from general, I kinda felt the same.  On the way home, my wife driving of course, I told her Hey, this is kinduva nice buzz, I wonder... oh yeah.  They probably wouldn't be up to selling me some of it.  By time we were home, I was mostly clear-headed.  Remedied that once we got home, and the rest of the day was cake.

Seriously, though.  Not nearly as horrible, either the day before or the day of, as I'd been led to believe.
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Post by: Podaar on March 24, 2018, 08:53:31 AM
I wonder if the severity of the cleansing process depends on what the individual doctors prescribe. The first time I had the procedure I had to go to the pharmacy to get a jug that was about 1/4 full of powder. You added water to it and shook it up for awhile then drank it in doses over the course of the evening and the next morning. The second time, I was instructed to get regular laxatives right off the shelf and overdose (compared to the product instructions) by mixing it with Gatorade.

I clearly remember the first experience as being more urgent which required me to do what my step-father described as "the green apple two-step". A sort of clenched shuffle that is simultaneously slow and rushed. IMO, the worst part is the incessant clean up which can cause irritation.

All in all, I think Orbert is right. We tend to exaggerate the experience.
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2018, 09:13:53 AM
This thread makes me feel so young.
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Post by: Orbert on March 24, 2018, 09:21:43 AM
Interesting.  This was my first, and I was prescribed the gallon jug with powder, which I filled up with water and shook well.  It came with a "Lemon Flavor Packet" which I also added.  I like lemon.  I drank half the night before, and the other half the morning of.

The instructions mentioned that drinking so much liquid in a relatively short time can cause nausea, but I already knew going in that I'd also be doing something that has the nice side-effect of mitigating nausea.  It may have lessened the other effects as well.  At no time did I feel an "emergency".  I had at least as much time to get to the bathroom as I normally would have; it just happened a lot more often.  When I got the first mild wave of nausea the morning of, after drinking two cups of it, I immediately went for my home remedy, and all was fine from that point on.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2018, 09:37:19 AM
The instructions I got call for an OTC med - BiPeglyte Kit.  Day before is a tablet in the morning, and one in the evening.  6pm start drinking the BiPeglyte (powder mixed with water) every 10 minutes until it's gone, and the second pack 4 hours before the procedure - which means I gotta get up at 5am.
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Post by: Grappler on March 24, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
Day 3 post snip (well 2 full days and the afternoon afterwards) and I'm feeling good.  The swelling was mostly gone after last night, and I'm only icing on occasion today.  I'm finishing up the norcos and will just take ibuprofin until the rest of the aches go away sometime this week.  I even managed an hour in jeans today to run an errand. 

Hilarious stories...thankfully my doc told me where I'd need to shave.  Though I've always used an electric razor, so I spent a week practicing with a real razor on my face.  I wasn't going to have my very first time using a real razor  to shave my balls. ;D
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Post by: Podaar on March 24, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/47134662/theres-nothing-better-than-a-freshly-shaved-scrotum.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2018, 05:54:35 PM
Wow, Gregg, you look a lot like Dr. Evil in that picture.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 25, 2018, 09:57:27 AM
Having had my digestive system modified I knew beforehand there was no way I could do the normal prep.  Doc gave me a nice low volume prep that was stress free for me.  My understanding is that anyone can request it (My wife did, and got it), just be firm if needed.  They want your insurance $$$$  ;)
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Post by: Orbert on March 25, 2018, 10:10:42 PM
I wonder what the deal is, then.  The jug of powder (just add water!) cost me like five dollars after insurance.  I suppose, given the choice, I'd still rather have taken a bunch of laxatives, but I can't see how they're making a ton of money off my insurance.  The insurance might pay for the meds, but the doctor doesn't see kickback on that or anything.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 26, 2018, 07:42:45 AM
So my understanding is there are 3 different preps.  Regular, Low volume, which I had, and the pill option.  The one I did was something like 16oz or so.  Wasn't bad.  My wife was told the difference with the preps is how well you get cleaned out.  That's why docs like the reg prep best.
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Post by: El Barto on March 26, 2018, 08:21:55 AM
So are all you guys rushing out to get colonoscopied in higher at-risk groups, or were there other screening indicators suggesting it was necessary? Seems to me that we're moving away from the colonoscopy as a routine testing measure for people who aren't in higher risk groups. There's been no research to indicate that it's more effective than less invasive testing done more frequently, and there are definite risks involved. When the Canadians and Europeans both agree something we do religiously isn't actually worthwhile, I tend to think that money has become the greater motivating factor.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 26, 2018, 08:42:01 AM
So are all you guys rushing out to get colonoscopied in higher at-risk groups, or were there other screening indicators suggesting it was necessary? Seems to me that we're moving away from the colonoscopy as a routine testing measure for people who aren't in higher risk groups. There's been no research to indicate that it's more effective than less invasive testing done more frequently, and there are definite risks involved. When the Canadians and Europeans both agree something we do religiously isn't actually worthwhile, I tend to think that money has become the greater motivating factor.

They say 50 is when you should.  Me, I had to have it done when I was 40 because I was having digestive issues and the did a colonoscopy and well as an endoscopy looking to see what the problem was. 
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Post by: Podaar on March 26, 2018, 08:55:17 AM
@EB

As for me, it's simply because my doctor didn't provide an alternative and I didn't know to ask for one. When it comes up again in five years, or so, I'll be sure to ask.

I suspect you're right about money being an issue. It seems to me that the doctors have invested a lot of time and money into making an assembly line type clinic for the procedures. The goal seems to be to get as many people through in a day as possible. It's all very efficient and expensive. But because it's considered "preventative" the insurance companies tend to pay well.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 26, 2018, 08:56:32 AM
Family history of polyps.  Non cancerous, but still a history none-the-less.  Cancer history as well, but not colon cancer.  c-scope is still the most effective screening method for pre-cancerous polyps - and I'd rather catch something pre-cancerous.  My GP said that other fecal tests only catch them when they are bloody - and at that point, things could very well be progressing towards cancer.

It's not like I'm rushing to do it, just being proactive and preventative.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 26, 2018, 09:04:10 AM
I'm 42 and I haven't been to see a Doctor for even a normal check up since my wife and I purchased life insurance 8 years ago. I do the yearly screening that my work does that checks all the general blood work, Blood Pressure and what not but I haven't actually been to a doctor for a visit since back then.

I know I should probably do that and get a 'real' check up and what not.....just haven't done it.
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Post by: El Barto on March 26, 2018, 09:56:09 AM
C-scoping is the gold standard. That's why it's the go-to when money is no object (which is how we regard healthcare in this country). It's just that not everybody actually needs the gold standard when other avenues are still fairly effective (though not to the same degree). There's also the defensive medicine aspect, where doctors prescribe the kitchen sink to CYA. I know that when I turn 50 this is a discussion I'll certainly be having with my doctor, who tends to be pretty aggressive with such things.

On a somewhat related note, I read a while back that doctors are no performing fecal transplants. Lots of people wind up without some of the necessary flora in their gut to take care of business, and some of the critters will become extinct. Critters that don't come back just because you start eating fruit flavored yogurt. They go in and insert a poop-Popsicle to, eh, repopulate the species. I wonder if this is becoming a bigger problem as more people are having to completely clear out their GI tract for precautionary procedures.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 26, 2018, 10:18:38 AM
I know that it wasn't approved when my mom got C-Diff, but now the procedure is approved that when a person gets C-Diff, you take an immediate family's fecal matter and inject it to cure the C-Diff.  It helps with weakened immune systems build back bacteria to battle those issues.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 26, 2018, 11:40:11 AM
Fecal transplants?  HOLY Crap (pun intended) We've gone around the bend now........ :lol

I did my C scope because of my age and Cancer history.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 03, 2018, 06:30:53 PM
Well guys and gals. My breathing wasn't right past few days it reminded me of having a blood clot after surgery when I had my spleen taken out because of the cancer in 2001.

So I'm at the hospital hey they ran a whole battery of tests. The blood work came back. I might have a blood clot.   I just had a CAT scan and if it is a blood clot they're keeping me overnight. Oh fun fun.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 03, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
It's official. Blood clots in both lungs. Staying overnight in the hospital.
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Post by: El Barto on April 03, 2018, 07:09:02 PM
Hang in there, dude. Hospitals suck. But on the bright side, being at home with undiagnosed pulmonary embolisms would suck a helluva lot worse.

Do they know how they'll treat it yet?
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2018, 07:15:28 PM
It's official. Blood clots in both lungs. Staying overnight in the hospital.


WTF?? Does that mean I don't get my Wal Mart widgets delivered tomorrow? Traffic jam in the yard??


Seriously, yikes!! Whatever you do, don't put the Bruins game on.

Take care, man.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 03, 2018, 07:22:00 PM
El Barto, intravenous and then pills for 3 months.  In 2001 I had to get shots and pills. Now it's only pills.

Tim unfortunately Twitter has let me know that the down 3 nothing
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Post by: DragonAttack on April 03, 2018, 10:13:53 PM
By the way...
I'm having hernia surgery April 9th. Good times! :tup

As to 'recovery time', it depends on whether its inguinal, incisional, femoral, or other.  I had an inguinal 5+ years ago, and it took me three months before I lifted anything over 20 pounds, and I intentionally waited a full year before swinging a golf club.  So don't believe the 'oh, you'll be fine in less then two weeks' crap.  It's all conditional.
And your first 'deuce' will be a painful as hell.

King...there you are in pain, but you still manage to crack us up! :D

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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 03:23:06 AM
 :lol

That the B's were down 3-0.
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Post by: PowerSlave on April 04, 2018, 03:40:52 AM
I rarely ever come into this thread, but I thought that I'd check it out this morning.

King, best wishes. I've got a buddy in Western PA that has had some issues with blood clots over the years, and he's told me quite a few horror stories. I don't envy the discomfort that you're having to go through.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 04:08:56 AM
 I had labored breathing.  just walking I was out of breath. I have no pain but I knew something was wrong. So I got my butt to the hospital
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 04, 2018, 05:12:42 AM
All the best to you King.

And stay away from them young nurses.  ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 05:22:11 AM
LOL. They're all over me. putting plugs all over me.  Lucky me ill probably rip them off and ripping out all my hair.
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Post by: Podaar on April 04, 2018, 06:06:33 AM
LOL. They're all over me. putting plugs all over me.  Lucky me ill probably rip them off and ripping out all my hair.

Typing while on medication, or terrible speech recognition, ladies and gentlemen? I'll let you decide.

All the best, King. So do the symptoms persist all through the 3 month treatment? Or is there some way they can get you relief soon?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 04, 2018, 06:53:34 AM
Get better ya big lug.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 07:44:59 AM
Talk-to-text is a b****. LOL

Chad you know it.
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Post by: DragonAttack on April 04, 2018, 08:38:31 AM
LOL. They're all over me. putting plugs all over me.  Lucky me ill probably rip them off and ripping out all my hair.

Better than in you!
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 08:40:10 AM
Oh I have a hospital story about that. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 11:42:45 AM
Well, more bad news though I'm already getting the medication for it. When they did the echocardiogram they found that the left side of my heart wasn't functioning at full capacity. So now they got medication to work on a slower harder pump.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 04, 2018, 12:25:44 PM
Well, more bad news though I'm already getting the medication for it. When they did the echocardiogram they found that the left side of my heart wasn't functioning at full capacity. So now they got medication to work on a slower harder pump.

I'd count that as a blessing in disguise. At least they've got a treatment plan for ya identified.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 12:27:34 PM
 I thought that myself Gary.
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Post by: El Barto on April 04, 2018, 12:35:53 PM
Yup. Being in the hospital being treated for health problems will almost always beat the hell out of being at work unaware of health problems.
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Post by: TAC on April 04, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Joe, just got home from work and I'm making my first hospital room visit. Hanging in there?
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 03:57:48 PM
Still at the hospital Tim.
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Post by: TAC on April 04, 2018, 04:29:10 PM
One more night, you think?
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
I think so.  They want to monitor me on this medication.
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Post by: Rattlehead on April 04, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
Just poking my head in here to say that I hope you get better soon, King  :tup
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2018, 05:54:25 PM
Thank you so much.  Lot to do in the next 3 months but we got to get it done.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 05, 2018, 11:07:59 PM
Speedy recovery Old dude!  And hey... older nurses are OK too!  ;)
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 05:21:05 AM
They took care of me well.  I'm home. On meds for the clots and my heart.  Stress test in 2 weeks.
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Post by: Podaar on April 06, 2018, 05:46:43 AM
Good to hear, King. Have they given you any restrictions? No beer and the like?
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 05:54:06 AM
I was already on a diet.  As with everything it's about moderation but the big thing for my heart is sodium.   We haven't used salt at home for 3 months. No deserts at home. I'm already down 33 we just started too late.

Now. I can't have bacon.:sadpanda:
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Post by: Podaar on April 06, 2018, 05:58:24 AM
Wait a minute, what did I miss? I didn't know you had a bum ticker! I thought it was some stupid clots in your lungs.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 06:04:34 AM
Clots yes in both lungs.   Then they saw the left side of my heart was not running at full capacity.   Stress test in two weeks and I'm on meds for it.
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Post by: Podaar on April 06, 2018, 06:30:57 AM
Goddamned, didn't know that, I'm not around here as much as I used to be. I'm sure you and the docs will find a way through it all.

BTW, I'd love to figure out a way to shed 33 pounds that did involve a bunch of mind numbing exercise.  :biggrin:
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 06:32:34 AM
So far it's changing how we eat and walking but I need to get to the point of hard exercise.  I'm not there yet.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 08:44:10 AM
Well, the last 24 hours wasn't exactly what I'd call 'pleasant', but it was no where near as difficult as I was expecting - or had heard what others' experiences were.  The worst part was trying to choke down round 2 of the meds at 4am this morning.   :-[

Just got back, ate for the first time since yesterday morning, and am now going for a nap.  Otherwise, feeling tip-top.

As for working out - I love it.  Weights, HIIT, cardio, anything.  I have a pretty decent setup in the basement, and that gives me time to watch concert DVDs, or double-dip on non-wife activities and watch hockey games while working out.  I also have a membership at the local college athletic dep't - $250/year, and they have all the equipment I want/need that I don't have at home.  I probably hit that place 2x per week, and workout at home 2-3x per week.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 06, 2018, 01:54:55 PM
I probably hit that place 2x per week

Do you just hang out in the steam room?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 02:05:56 PM
I probably hit that place 2x per week

Do you just hang out in the steam room?

 :rollin. That wouldn't be creepy at all - mid-40s guy in the steam room at a College!  They don't have one, so at least I'm not tempted.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 06, 2018, 02:27:45 PM
I probably hit that place 2x per week

Do you just hang out in the steam room?

 :rollin. That wouldn't be creepy at all - mid-40s guy in the steam room at a College!  They don't have one, so at least I'm not tempted.

(Chad takes sip from his Molsen Ice as group of young, strapping half dressed men enter the steam room)

"Hey guys...just an FYI I just saw on Tweeter that a firm rub down while in the steam room is highly recommended. I've got the time and a firm grip so.....what do ya' say?"

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Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 03:09:04 PM
Chad pulls the towel away to show his Molson 6 pack belt holder where beer 6 exposes the *surpise*.

Bonus,  crossing legs not needed with this belt.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 03:25:17 PM
#themtoo
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Post by: Tick on April 07, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Hernia surgery Monday.  :-\
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2018, 11:44:43 AM
Hernia surgery Monday.  :-\

That blows!  Not exclusively a fogey condition - jingle.son had this when he was 4 years old!

Tim will tell ya... it ain't much of a deal.
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Post by: Tick on April 07, 2018, 01:07:48 PM
Hernia surgery Monday.  :-\

That blows!  Not exclusively a fogey condition - jingle.son had this when he was 4 years old!

Tim will tell ya... it ain't much of a deal.
I'll survive. I don't want to deal, but a week away from work to rest is the silver lining. Of coarse the shit show I come back to likely won't be pretty.
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Post by: lonestar on April 08, 2018, 12:18:31 PM
Hernia surgery Monday.  :-\

That blows!  Not exclusively a fogey condition - jingle.son had this when he was 4 years old!

Tim will tell ya... it ain't much of a deal.

Yeah, I had mine when I was 7.
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Post by: Harmony on April 13, 2018, 10:16:25 AM
 :censored psoas muscle.  Just  what the :censored is this new form of hell??

  :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn
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Post by: Tick on April 17, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
I went back to work today after being out since last Monday. I honestly don't feel ready to be here but I'm trying to go as easy as possible.
The lesson I learned in having this surgery last week is this...
Its not how "you" think you should feel after 5 days recovery, its how your body tells you, it is.
I was getting frustrated and quite bummed because I was not bouncing back according how I felt I would.
I had it all planned out...
By Wednesday I'll be at this point...
On Friday I'll be here...
Nope. Your body tells you when its healed, not the other way around.
One day at a time...
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Post by: Orbert on April 17, 2018, 11:58:03 AM
Yep, the older you get, the longer it takes to come back from any physical setback.  And that's true for everything from surgery to bumping your arm on something and getting a bruise.  Annoying as hell.

Not saying that a mere bruise is the same as having hernia surgery, but it's kinda the same concept.  I had an itch, I scratched it, no big deal, except my arm fucking hurt when I scratched it.  Why?  I look, and there's a bruise from when I bumped into a shelf three or four days ago.  I'm like What the hell?  How can it still hurt?  I bumped it four days ago!
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 17, 2018, 12:05:15 PM
I've got my Stress test on Thursday.  I've been leaving work early and walking for a hour or so at least 5 times a week.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 17, 2018, 09:07:49 PM
I've got my Stress test on Thursday.  I've been leaving work early and walking for a hour or so at least 5 times a week.

Good luck, dude!

Yep, the older you get, the longer it takes to come back from any physical setback.  And that's true for everything from surgery to bumping your arm on something and getting a bruise.  Annoying as hell.


Man, if that isn't the truth.  Why didn't anybody warn me about this?  :lol :lol
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 17, 2018, 10:26:32 PM
I've got my Stress test on Thursday.  I've been leaving work early and walking for a hour or so at least 5 times a week.
  Good luck!  When I went to the ER (Twice) on the verge of a heart attack (twice) they did a stress test on me (YUP!!!...Twice) and couldn't find anything.  The Cardiologist KNEW something was amiss so she did the angiogram and found 4 blockages, the worst at 95% blocked.  3 stents in, and one was only like 55% and didn't qualify yet for a stent.  I was like...Really?  While your up there you can't put one in???  :lol
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Post by: AngelBack on April 18, 2018, 08:48:42 AM
Things I don't like about getting older:

Makes more sense to start the handful on shampoo on the sides then work the remainder to the top.
Gravity having it's way with the boys
"towel trick" only executed properly on a good day
Additions to the "highlight reel" non existent

Things I'm liking about getting older:

Low T, every bad decision I ever made in life was because of high T  (ok I stole that one)
I'm starting to get a taste of that "older person who says whatever they want" thing, and I'm digging it
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Post by: chknptpie on April 18, 2018, 12:26:08 PM
Heard on the radio that we start to get old at age 41... so I still got a little bit of time. Then it takes 16 years to complete the full transition to old.

Found the article the radio guys were talking about:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6057936/signs-getting-old-revealed-study-list/
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 18, 2018, 02:42:40 PM
Ramping up the walks to another speed.  The hills don't make me out of breath where I've been walking and I've upped the walking to 50 minutes.
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Post by: Tick on April 19, 2018, 02:02:20 PM
Ramping up the walks to another speed.  The hills don't make me out of breath where I've been walking and I've upped the walking to 50 minutes.
Good man! That is a nice long walk
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Post by: El Barto on April 19, 2018, 02:12:04 PM
Ramping up the walks to another speed.  The hills don't make me out of breath where I've been walking and I've upped the walking to 50 minutes.
Good man! That is a nice long walk
Indeed. I'd do about 2 3/4 mile in 45-50 and enjoyed it. Unfortunately only about half of the year is good for that down here, and the area I liked to walk is a construction zone now. I never really noticed much of a health benefit, but found it good for the soul.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 19, 2018, 02:14:44 PM
When you are out of shape it helps.  Once 4 miles is easy, I'll ramp up the speed and hills.
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Post by: Tick on April 19, 2018, 03:04:33 PM
Ramping up the walks to another speed.  The hills don't make me out of breath where I've been walking and I've upped the walking to 50 minutes.
Good man! That is a nice long walk
Indeed. I'd do about 2 3/4 mile in 45-50 and enjoyed it. Unfortunately only about half of the year is good for that down here, and the area I liked to walk is a construction zone now. I never really noticed much of a health benefit, but found it good for the soul.
You would probably realize the benefit if you were to stop doing it. Its got benefits you don't really feel.
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Post by: El Barto on April 20, 2018, 08:43:46 AM
Ramping up the walks to another speed.  The hills don't make me out of breath where I've been walking and I've upped the walking to 50 minutes.
Good man! That is a nice long walk
Indeed. I'd do about 2 3/4 mile in 45-50 and enjoyed it. Unfortunately only about half of the year is good for that down here, and the area I liked to walk is a construction zone now. I never really noticed much of a health benefit, but found it good for the soul.
You would probably realize the benefit if you were to stop doing it. Its got benefits you don't really feel.
I stopped doing it a year or so ago. Like I said, my preferred walking space is a construction zone and the demographics have changed dramatically. No longer all that appealing. That said, there's a big difference between King and myself. From what I've seen it's likely to help him far more than it helped me.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 20, 2018, 09:56:20 AM
Hernia eh?

I've got matching scars on both sides.
The crappy part of the recovery was not being able to put my own pants/socks on for a month.
Right through the abdominal wall they went for my second one.

Fun stuff. And my surgeon was a lumberjack on the side. He left quite the scar with his small hatchet he used.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 20, 2018, 10:20:06 AM
Fun stuff. And my surgeon was a lumberjack on the side. He left quite the scar with his small hatchet he used.
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I know surgery isn't fun or funny to joke about but reading this line I cracked up and spit the mint in my mouth out onto my desk.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 20, 2018, 10:42:06 AM
I actually should have put it in quotes.
That's what my family doctor said at the follow up appointment with her....she was shocked at how sloppy the scar looked.

Wonderful to hear. I mean, I appreciate her honesty but ... I had no idea WHAT a hernia scar should look like. It's been many years and it's still a big white arrow pointing to my penis
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Post by: splent on April 20, 2018, 09:54:41 PM
I’m 35 today. Am I a part of this clib
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Post by: PowerSlave on April 21, 2018, 04:25:39 AM
I’m 35 today. Am I a part of this clib

With spelling like that, King is liable to either welcome you with open arms, or feel like you're trying to butt in on his territory... :biggrin:
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 21, 2018, 06:29:01 AM
My peeps! :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 21, 2018, 06:43:26 AM
I’m 35 today. Am I a part of this clib

With spelling like that, King is liable to either welcome you with open arms, or feel like you're trying to butt in on his territory... :biggrin:

 :lol


I went bowling yesterday and I'm now sitting here jacked up on ibuprofen with ice on my back. I can't feel my legs this morning.

Bowling! :censored
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Post by: Orbert on April 21, 2018, 06:43:54 AM
I’m 35 today. Am I a part of this clib

Happy Birthday, Spence!  ♫♫♪!
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2018, 06:45:57 AM
I went bowling yesterday and I'm now sitting here jacked up on ibuprofen with ice on my back. I can't feel my legs this morning.


Lieutenant Dan!?!?!
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 21, 2018, 06:53:28 AM
I'm going 10 pin bowling next weekend. Oh boy. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 21, 2018, 06:54:50 AM
Be careful. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 21, 2018, 06:59:12 AM
 :lol
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Post by: Podaar on April 22, 2018, 06:54:21 AM
Yeah, the last time I went bowling, my wrist was jacked up for a couple of weeks.

Going golfing today with Dr. P. We're going to walk the course. I'm going to do an hour of stretches before we go.  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2018, 07:13:19 AM
Yeah, the last time I went bowling, my wrist was jacked up for a couple of weeks.

Going golfing today with Dr. P. We're going to walk the course. I'm going to do an hour of stretches before we go.  :lol

Bowling is apparently accursed for fogeys.  It's been a REAL long time since I last went with the kids (7-8 years if I had to guess), and while it's a lot of fun, it is NO FUCKING FUN the day after.  My shoulder and lower back were a wreck.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 22, 2018, 12:08:49 PM
Yeah, the last time I went bowling, my wrist was jacked up for a couple of weeks.

Going golfing today with Dr. P. We're going to walk the course. I'm going to do an hour of stretches before we go.  :lol

Bowling is apparently accursed for fogeys.  It's been a REAL long time since I last went with the kids (7-8 years if I had to guess), and while it's a lot of fun, it is NO FUCKING FUN the day after.  My shoulder and lower back were a wreck.
  Just use your cane or walker!  It will help! :biggrin:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 23, 2018, 06:40:49 AM
This could be helpful:

(https://i1.wp.com/dashadventure.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IMG_2514.jpg?resize=640%2C427)

 :biggrin:
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Post by: Orbert on April 23, 2018, 09:33:08 AM
That looks awesome!

At our local bowling alley, they have these same kind of things -- "ball launchers" or whatever they're called -- except that they're just a metal frame with two tubular steel guides that you roll the ball down.  They do exactly the same thing, but they're not shaped liked dragons or dinosaurs or anything fun like that, and thus are vastly inferior.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on April 23, 2018, 10:57:32 AM
So. Because Im bored and my kid is 15, and I'm up early on weekends with nothing to do--I volunteered to coach a group of 7/8 year olds in hockey. And because nobody wants to coach the worst of the worst (barely skate and mostly "new Canadians") ya...that's what I signed up for.

So. After learning some rudimentary Chinese phrases. Dealing with some ADD kids and other issues....we got sorted out pretty quick.
That was in the fall and after they didn't lose from October until about the end of January (smirk) 16-2-2 final record.....lol......I don't like to lose. It's not that coached them like rep a team I just was smart about "hiding my warts" and....once the fathers who coached the other teams stopped talking to me in the rink hallways....well. I consider the season a huge success. LOL....

we went to a rock climbing place on the weekend for our year end party...and I feel every bit of my 43 year old bones today
OUCH
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2018, 11:18:02 AM
The first part sounds awesome Kris.  2nd part... not as much.  I did a little rock-climbing maybe 10 years ago when we had the jingle.kids signed up to it.  Fun as hell, but not something I'd want to tackling on a regular basis nowadays
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 23, 2018, 11:32:48 AM
Did some yard work around the house Saturday. Planted (41) new perennials, spread (30) bags of mulch and put a new block border around the patio we built last summer. Started the work around 10:30 which consisted of my dad and I hitting Lowes and loading up the thirty bags of mulch and (130) blocks I used for the border. I had purchased the plants/flowers the day before.

Get back to my house and then unload it all.....yadda yadda yadda.....it's 7:30 pm and I've completed it all.

Woke up yesterday and my body was stiff and sore like you wouldn't believe. Now, I consider myself to be in somewhat good shape for 42...I exercise regularly and maintain a decent weight....but jeez....the way my body felt yesterday you'd have thought I ran a Triathalon the day before. I thought since I was so tight perhaps a nice 5 mile run would loosen me up so I threw that on the pot as well yesterday afternoon.

Still feeling it today. I guess this 'aging' thing is no joke. The body just really likes to bark more and more as the years/months tic by.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2018, 11:37:09 AM
Saturday morning, my workout consisted of some leg/hammy/back work.  Then yesterday, I shaved both my dogs (sadly, not a euphemism, I literally shaved the jingle.dogs) - which entails a lot of crouching, leaning, and bending over.  Mother of god was my lower back sore by the end of the day.  Still a little stiff today, but manageable.  Last night takin the dogs on a walk was near agony by the end of it.

<puts "stretching" on the list of things to do before shaving dogs>

 :lol
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Post by: gmillerdrake on April 23, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
For me at least....this doesn't/hasn't felt like a gradual thing. It was like I went from being able to do a days worth of yard work...run, exercise and deal with the 'normal' soreness that comes from those activities to BOOM....everything's just exaggerated now. Same spots as far as aches and pains but just magnified.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2018, 01:36:19 PM
For me at least....this doesn't/hasn't felt like a gradual thing. It was like I went from being able to do a days worth of yard work...run, exercise and deal with the 'normal' soreness that comes from those activities to BOOM....everything's just exaggerated now. Same spots as far as aches and pains but just magnified.

That happened the month after my 40th.  It was like the flick of a switch - I'd be able to recover from anything pretty quick, then all of a sudden, not so much.  My elbows have been fucked (essentially, tennis elbow) of and on since LAST February.  No matter what I do (accu, massage, ice, elbow brace...) nothing makes a difference.  It's not intolerable, just a bit of a biting pain when I lift things (light or heavy) at certain angles.
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Post by: TAC on April 23, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
That happened the month after my 40th.  It was like the flick of a switch - I'd be able to recover from anything pretty quick, then all of a sudden, not so much.  My elbows have been fucked (essentially, tennis elbow) of and on since LAST February.  No matter what I do (accu, massage, ice, elbow brace...) nothing makes a difference.  It's not intolerable, just a bit of a biting pain when I lift things (light or heavy) at certain angles.

Have you had them looked at? X ray?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2018, 01:39:45 PM
It ain't worth it.  There's no pain during the normal course of living, just a sharp little jab every so often - and with certain weight-lifting movements - eg, DB front/side raises.  Those really put the screws to me.
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Post by: Podaar on April 23, 2018, 04:42:36 PM
In my experience it will heal eventually, Chad, you just have to take care of it. Stick with the elbow brace/compression sleeves. Especially after the pain has all but disappeared. I know it's a pain in the ass, and looks dumb as fuck, but it works. I played golf, lifted weights, did yard chores (this is normal behavior for grown men, Tim) and home improvement projects for a couple for a couple of years with an elbow brace and just like my doctor told me it would, it eventually healed.
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Post by: TAC on April 23, 2018, 06:32:57 PM
I saw that! :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2018, 09:01:21 PM
In my experience it will heal eventually, Chad, you just have to take care of it. Stick with the elbow brace/compression sleeves. Especially after the pain has all but disappeared. I know it's a pain in the ass, and looks dumb as fuck, but it works. I played golf, lifted weights, did yard chores (this is normal behavior for grown men, Tim) and home improvement projects for a couple for a couple of years with an elbow brace and just like my doctor told me it would, it eventually healed.

Thanks for the tip.  I've read advice that says to try and stretch/ice it, but don't rely too much on the brace.  Might just fuck it, and make sure I'm wearing whenever I do any meaningful arm activity (no comments from the peanut-gallery... if you're doing it right, it's all in the wrist   :lol).
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Post by: Podaar on May 07, 2018, 05:05:30 PM
Speaking of yard work (look away, Tim), I trimmed the privet and mock orange bushes this weekend and had to take it stages that lasted from Saturday morning through Sunday morning. Still, my arms, chest and back are sore today (although not terrible). Just a few years ago, I could have done the whole project in a few hours.

Mrs. P is gearing up to remodel our bedroom in the coming month. I'm terrified!
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Post by: TAC on May 07, 2018, 05:11:24 PM
(https://www.answerfinancial.com/insurance-center/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/hands-over-eyes-250x250.jpg)



Mrs. P is gearing up to remodel our bedroom in the coming month. I'm terrified!

Speaking of trimming the privet! :neverusethis:




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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 12, 2018, 07:50:52 AM
For the past year or so I've been dealing with pain and weakness in my left shoulder. This is the same arm that was destroyed by Western Diamondback Rattlesnake venom when I was bit 16 years ago. The venom pretty much started to digest my muscle/tendons etc. in my arm since that's what venom does. Being that when I was bit I was a waiter who was being paid off the books....had zero insurance....I never followed up with physical rehab or anything like that. I noticed immediately in the following years that strength in my left arm was zapped and the 'endurance' when working with it was not very good.

Fast forward 13-16 years and I had always just dealt with the fact that my left arm was sub par. But, a few years ago I started developing a chronic pain in my shoulder. Nothing unbearable but the 'pain' has just been there in the background. I just figured it was associated with the bite and the fact I've never rehabbed or anything like that....I'm getting older and I'm sure age just picks the weak spots in your body to attack first.

Well last night while playing hockey I ran smack dab....left shoulder first.....into a freaking mountain of a human being. All 170 lbs of me traveling at maybe 15 mph collided with this freak of nature 250 lb dude who was probably going 15 mph or so.....BOOM....shoulder first.....needless to say I didn't win that collision.

Immediately I 'heard' something in my shoulder.....like a crunch or grind. It didn't feel good at all. I continued to play and just had near zero strength in that arm. Came home and couldn't even sleep on my left side...couldn't sleep at all.

It's weird because to touch it or move it it's not unbearable or even present. It's just like if I try to really 'use' my arm for something that's when the pain shoots. It feels muscle related but at the same time like I said if I push and prod on the muscles it doesn't hurt. It's deeper than that...almost under them.

I'm gonna see how this thing shakes out over the next day or two but I have a suspicion I might actually have to go get this looked at. I've been avoiding it because 1) I'm a man and men are stubborn like that and 2) I really don't want to spend any $$ on a surgery. I have great insurance but still would rather not 'waste' the money on it. But I can say that I don't think I can just go along with this new level of pain that collision caused.

Old Fogey complaint over.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 12, 2018, 08:42:41 AM
Ouch. Hope that isn't anything serious, man!

As we get older, I find that it's just not worth it to play a lot of sports.  I played soccer with a bunch of old friends years ago (in my late 30's) in a local league and quickly realized that it was not for me anymore.  Not even taking into account that a lot of guys who play soccer approach it like it's life or death and have no problem putting you into a wall or taking your knees out, I just didn't have the cardio anymore to keep up with a bunch of younger guys. And I was still in pretty good shape then.  Sucks getting older. :censored
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 12, 2018, 08:55:24 AM
Gary, let's put it this way.  Image 10 to 15 years down the road and you never took care of it and you can't pick up your first grandchild because of the pain.



Get it looked at.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 12, 2018, 09:02:52 AM
Gary, let's put it this way.  Image 10 to 15 years down the road and you never took care of it and you can't pick up your first grandchild because of the pain.



Get it looked at.

Good point. This has done nothing but get worse with time.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
Gary, let's put it this way.  Image 10 to 15 years down the road and you never took care of it and you can't pick up your first grandchild because of the pain.



Get it looked at.

Good point. This has done nothing but get worse with time.

And yet somehow - at 40+ - you think it's suddenly going to get better (or stay the same) on its own?   :lol

At least get some massage therapy for it - a real one, not no $20 happy ending place either.  When I threw my back out 4 years ago, it was constant chiro and rmt - weekly for about 2 months before it got better.  Dude, you put oil in your car on a regular basis, right?  That way, you don't wreck the tranny every 2-3 years.

Get this looked at.

You dumbass.   :biggrin:
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Post by: millahh on May 14, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
So we're about three weeks into painting and light renovation on our new house, trying to get everything done before the moving truck arrives...and ohgodmyknees...I feel like they are going to fall off.  It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't a 90-year-old house where we wanted to repaint ALL of the trim, which was original, natural, detailed and with about six coats of shitty stain/varnish on it.  So many baseboards....  It's actually fine during the day, but when I get in bed or wake up, they are filled with concrete.
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Post by: Podaar on May 14, 2018, 10:56:33 AM
Is it from kneeling or crouching, Millahh?
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Post by: millahh on May 14, 2018, 11:00:56 AM
Is it from kneeling or crouching, Millahh?

Mostly crouching, and the up-and-down.  Anything that would require kneeling, i'm either on my side or else sitting cross-legged (though not for too long)
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Post by: Podaar on May 14, 2018, 11:02:45 AM
Yeah, not much you can do (that I know of) for sore knees from crouching. I sympathize with your pain, strenuously.
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Post by: Orbert on May 14, 2018, 11:28:59 AM
Nowadays, I don't crouch at all, unless I know for a fact that it will only be for five or ten seconds, tops.  If I'm working on something that requires me to be at a lower level than standing upright, I find something of the appropriate height to sit on.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on May 14, 2018, 11:55:12 AM
Mrs. P bought me one of these Racatac for working low to the ground. Wouldn't want to do without it now.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ml4Hq8yYL._SL1500_.jpg)

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Post by: King Postwhore on May 14, 2018, 12:21:07 PM
I look like Andre The Giant getting off the mat when I'm on my knees.
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Post by: TAC on May 14, 2018, 05:23:48 PM
Mrs. P bought me one of these Racatac for working low to the ground. Wouldn't want to do without it now.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ml4Hq8yYL._SL1500_.jpg)

What in the fucking hell is that? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2018, 05:27:13 PM
And why did they name some device for fogeys the RacaTAC?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 14, 2018, 05:28:28 PM
Mrs. P bought me one of these Racatac for working low to the ground. Wouldn't want to do without it now.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ml4Hq8yYL._SL1500_.jpg)

What in the fucking hell is that? :lol

I dunno, but I think Tarantino considered it for the gimp scene in Pulp Fiction.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 14, 2018, 05:30:28 PM
I look like Andre The Giant getting off the mat when I'm on my knees.

Does that mean when you are on the ground, you roll until you have something to grab to help you up? :lol :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 14, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
Maaaaayyybbbeeee?! :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 14, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
Mrs. P bought me one of these Racatac for working low to the ground. Wouldn't want to do without it now.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ml4Hq8yYL._SL1500_.jpg)

What in the fucking hell is that? :lol

It would save your knees when trying to get a raise.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 14, 2018, 05:39:08 PM
And why did they name some device for fogeys the RacaTAC?
:rollin

That's a good question.

Does it come with a companion piece to get you in and out of it?

I mean, WTF do you do with it??
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Post by: TAC on May 14, 2018, 05:41:26 PM
WEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uSJ2ygcON4
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 14, 2018, 05:42:02 PM
Tim, really? You don't know? Shit, it's even metal. :rollin
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Post by: TAC on May 14, 2018, 05:45:38 PM
Tim, really? You don't know? Shit, it's even metal. :rollin

I have never fucking heard or seen that in my life.

I don't turn 50 until September so maybe it's part of The Old Ass Welcome Package.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 14, 2018, 05:54:11 PM
I've seen guys use it in remodeling houses to work on the lower parts of the walls.
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Post by: TAC on May 14, 2018, 05:56:19 PM
I've seen guys use it in remodeling houses to work on the lower parts of the walls.

Like on TV, or in real life?
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 14, 2018, 06:21:27 PM
Real life.  Thgey swear it's a life saver.  They are on their knees for hours and this allows them to do so.
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Post by: Podaar on May 15, 2018, 08:02:44 AM
It's not really his fault, King. I really wouldn't expect someone who considers a cloudburst as an effective car wash to understand the pains of manual labor. I used mine to install 1/2" thick, 16x16, travertine tile on my back patio and still be able to go walk 18 holes of golf.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20621937_10213923419668713_2605180362660830355_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=774e4c2d6acf6950cbd012c931b27984&oe=5B9D5173)

I simply thought millahh could have used one for his baseboard work to save him some pain.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 15, 2018, 08:38:51 AM
An easier way of doing that is to hire someone.  Then the only pain is in the elbow from the repeated motion of sipping from my beers as I watch.
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Post by: Podaar on May 15, 2018, 08:41:24 AM
 :lol

Now that is an old man's solution!
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2018, 08:45:18 AM
 :lol

Mmmnnn.  I don't seem to have that problem.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 15, 2018, 09:00:59 AM
An easier way of doing that is to hire someone.  Then the only pain is in the elbow from the repeated motion of sipping from my beers as I watch.

And a hand cramp from writing the check(s)
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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 15, 2018, 09:03:33 AM
The only DIY category I refuse to attempt anymore is anything plumbing. I'll pay whatever to whoever to fix any plumbing issues. I've attempted those fixes in the past on my own and it has never worked out in my favor. Always ended up costing me a small fortune to attempt  the repair ending with me calling a pro anyway. So now, I just start with the call to the plumber and bite the bullet.

Most other household repairs/DIY items....improvements I can manage.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2018, 09:08:34 AM
The only DIY category I refuse to attempt anymore is anything plumbing. I'll pay whatever to whoever to fix any plumbing issues. I've attempted those fixes in the past on my own and it has never worked out in my favor. Always ended up costing me a small fortune to attempt  the repair ending with me calling a pro anyway. So now, I just start with the call to the plumber and bite the bullet.

Most other household repairs/DIY items....improvements I can manage.

Last year I was changing the bathroom faucet and the U pipe underneath was rotted and I couldn't get it off afraid I would strip the pipe from the wall.  I called my buddy's son who was a plumber to help.
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Post by: Podaar on May 15, 2018, 09:17:19 AM
Plumbing is easy if you remember simple rules:

Turn off the water at the street first.
Teflon tape is your friend
Always tape clockwise from the end of the thread
Use two pipe wrenches; one to hold the pipe still, one to turn the fitting
Shit only rolls downhill
Never bite your fingernails
Payday is on Friday
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2018, 09:30:57 AM
Plumbing is easy if you remember simple rules:

Turn off the water at the street first. Check
Teflon tape is your friend   Check
Always tape clockwise from the end of the thread   Check
Use two pipe wrenches; one to hold the pipe still, one to turn the fitting   Son of a
Shit only rolls downhill    Check
Never bite your fingernails   Check
Payday is on Friday   Thursday for us

The hard part.  Owning everything you need to work on your house.
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2018, 02:31:28 PM
It's not really his fault, King. I really wouldn't expect someone who considers a cloudburst as an effective car wash to understand the pains of manual labor.

 :lol

Hey, I put in my mailbox last Spring!

(https://i.imgur.com/VSsS2UH.jpg)

In fact, The one it replaced I put in on the morning of the Pats/Rams Superbowl!!
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2018, 02:41:32 PM
I've got to do that for my dad.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 15, 2018, 02:50:54 PM
It's not really his fault, King. I really wouldn't expect someone who considers a cloudburst as an effective car wash to understand the pains of manual labor.

 :lol

Hey, I put in my mailbox last Spring!

(https://i.imgur.com/VSsS2UH.jpg)

In fact, The one it replaced I put in on the morning of the Pats/Rams Superbowl!!

THIS was an event that was picture-worthy?? 

Fastforward 25 years, and you'll be re-posting it on page 350 of this thread, after finding it in a box in the attic.

"Hey guys... remember what we used to do when we were in our 40s!?!?"
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Post by: Podaar on May 15, 2018, 02:59:15 PM
Tim, the funny thing is, that pictures shows exactly the work position the racatac is designed for! Take care of your knees and your back. You'll thank me in about 10 years.

BTW, I love your cute little bullet level.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/3oEjHN4MtbSqEe4D8Q/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2018, 03:23:48 PM
THIS was an event that was picture-worthy?? 

 :lol

Hey, I have a reputation to defend.


Tim, the funny thing is, that pictures shows exactly the work position the racatac is designed for!

I feel like when they make The Jerk Pt 2, Steve Martin's character will invent the Rac-a-tac and then be sued by millions of people with compressed diaphrams and livers.


BTW, I love your cute little bullet level.

Just as I posted the pic, I KNEW Gregg wouldn't let that level get by him. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
 :rollin

Well I'm loving it. 
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Post by: Podaar on May 16, 2018, 11:22:50 AM
Just as I posted the pic, I KNEW Gregg wouldn't let that level get by him. :lol

I just noticed that tiny little shovel that you're caressing with a gentle, light friction, under-hand grip. :zydar:
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2018, 01:20:13 PM
Just as I posted the pic, I KNEW Gregg wouldn't let that level get by him. :lol

I just noticed that tiny little shovel that you're caressing with a gentle, light friction, under-hand grip. :zydar:

Looks like he's wearing a Winger hat too
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2018, 04:34:21 PM
My son texted this video to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvKekdS6eDw
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Post by: gmillerdrake on January 07, 2019, 06:47:53 AM
I’ve never felt so old as I do right now. Right groin has been barking at me for three weeks now. Tweaked it in a hockey game.....left elbow has some sort of weird persistent ache to where it’s effecting my grip strength....and both my ankles and right knee have been sending out signals that they aren’t happy with me as well.

Been training for two upcoming Trail Run races, (Feb. 17th & March 3rd) and playing hockey on Sundays. It’s starting to catch up to me I think. I’ve been a runner since Thanksgiving of 2007.....at least 3X a week minimum since then.....so I’m wondering being that running is so high impact on the joints that it’s just catching up to me?

Whatever it is.....I don’t believe I’ve ever had this many ailments all at once
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Post by: Podaar on January 07, 2019, 07:00:26 AM
Gary,

The last time I was fit (when I was 49), I had to give up running in the real world because of the lower limb pain you speak of. I had to switch to low impact treadmills or my ankles and feet would be in agony. Eventually, I just gave up being fit!  :lol

My daughter swears by the barefoot running technique to eliminate stress to your body. I've tried it some and can't quite get the hang of it so I'm skeptical about it.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on January 07, 2019, 08:05:47 AM
Gary,

The last time I was fit (when I was 49), I had to give up running in the real world because of the lower limb pain you speak of. I had to switch to low impact treadmills or my ankles and feet would be in agony. Eventually, I just gave up being fit!  :lol

My daughter swears by the barefoot running technique to eliminate stress to your body. I've tried it some and can't quite get the hang of it so I'm skeptical about it.

I've always had 'bad luck' with treadmills. They seem to be harder on my body than outdoor running. I just think I need to adjust my frequency. I enjoy running.....really more for the mental relief than the actual exercise. But, I'm running 4 or 5 times a week right now and have been on that schedule for quite some time.

Were I to change my eating habits and eat healthier I think I could tone down my running schedule. Right now....it's designed to keep my love of chicken wings and chinese food in check.  :lol

I've heard about and seen the barefoot runners that your daughter speaks about. They even have a special 'shoe' that is nothing more than a neoprene sheath that protects the toes/foot. I've just never tried it. Especially since the majority of my running these days is trail running.
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Post by: Podaar on January 07, 2019, 08:22:00 AM
It's possible to use the barefoot running technique in regular running shoes. The idea is to land on the balls of your feet or slightly forward on the front pad thereby removing the impact of your heel. If you try it, you'll find it's easiest if you focus on leaning slightly forward. It's a real calf burner though!

As for treadmills, I bought a Nordictrack incline trainer and the suspension on it removes nearly all the impact. That has worked the best for me. Plus, I can catch up on my reading while doing cardio. Audio books make the workout go super quick.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 07, 2019, 10:12:03 AM
When I (occasionally) run, it's always on a treadmill.  I get shin splints if I run on a hard surface, and I just don't enjoy the outdoor experience much.  Put me in front of my TV with a concert DVD, and I'm good.  I had the 5-fingers shoes as well, and really enjoyed running that way (exactly as Gregg described) as opposed to running shoes and landing heel/toe.  The first few times though... holy shyte did my calves burn!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on January 07, 2019, 10:24:00 AM
I’ve never felt so old as I do right now. Right groin has been barking at me for three weeks now. Tweaked it in a hockey game.....left elbow has some sort of weird persistent ache to where it’s effecting my grip strength....and both my ankles and right knee have been sending out signals that they aren’t happy with me as well.

Been training for two upcoming Trail Run races, (Feb. 17th & March 3rd) and playing hockey on Sundays. It’s starting to catch up to me I think. I’ve been a runner since Thanksgiving of 2007.....at least 3X a week minimum since then.....so I’m wondering being that running is so high impact on the joints that it’s just catching up to me?

Whatever it is.....I don’t believe I’ve ever had this many ailments all at once

Dude, I am with you. Two years ago, I stupidly jumped from a high distance, and forgot to land on the balls of my feet, and landed flat footed. Tore up my lower back and right groin. Then went my daughter's birthday party a few months later, and tore up my left calf in one of those American Ninja Warrior-like "run and jump on this flat wall and climb it" things. I tore or did something. One of the worst pains ever. I hung on though, pulled myself up (and ripped up my arm muscles), using my right leg (left was dead), and slid down the pole. Couldn't walk for two days. Eventually I was fine, but even now, running and jumping...I still feel my left calf and right groin. I have to baby any sort of cardio activity. It sucks. Doc told me (he's my age, approaching mid-40s), welcome to old age.  :lol He said we could do surgery, but why introduce pain if I'm not into any serious pain and it doesn't affect my daily life all that much. Good point. So I am just moving forward, knowing I'm old as dirt, and modified my jump shot in hoops a bit so my calf doesn't knot up. LOL.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 08, 2019, 12:24:19 PM
I avoided going to the eye doctor for 6 months to a year because I didn't want to hear what I already knew, since it would just confirm that I am old. I lost my nearsightedness during 2018 and was doing what the lady in the office referred to as 'playing the trombone' when trying to read something.

I finally got tired of the constant headaches and eye pain and went on Saturday. It's official, I need bifocals. He's hooking me up with progressive (YEAH!) lenses and anti-reflective coating and a blue light coating since I work in IT and stare at screens all day. It's the whole deal. Still sucks at 42 to already need bifocals.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Chino on January 08, 2019, 12:25:31 PM
How old do you need to be to participate in this thread?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 08, 2019, 12:46:23 PM
How old do you need to be to participate in this thread?

I believe it's more a state of mind thing  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2019, 12:52:57 PM
How old do you need to be to participate in this thread?

I believe it's more a state of mind thing  :lol

Actually, it's just the opposite ... it's a state of body
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on January 08, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
How old do you need to be to participate in this thread?

I believe it's more a state of mind thing  :lol

Actually, it's just the opposite ... it's a state of body

Amen.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2019, 03:59:45 PM
Well, might as well share my thoughts on this that's been bothering me for a while now.  I've been balding since I was in my early 20's and even though it wasn't that bad back then, 34 and the round balding spot has certainly found a comfortable home on top of my head.  I actually didn't really notice until about a year ago when my gf mentioned it was getting bigger, before that I was pretty oblivious.  Long hours, stressful job and a couple of years in my late 20's severely underrating borderline eating disorder doesn't help either.  The past 12 months I've tried a natural approach by cutting most dairy, sticking to organic grass fed meats, adding some different supplements, cutting artificial sweeteners and additives and trying to sleep a bit more.  Seems it's stabilised pretty well, even very slightly improved but I'm going all in one last shot with minoxidil and just started it on the weekend.  Seems easy and convenient and if it makes a difference, happy to use it long term, as I can afford it.  Looked up other treatments but too many seem to have side effects which affects sex drive and function and that's definitely not worth it, I don't care what anyone says.  Seems finding a cure is decreasing sex hormones so looks like a no win situation.

I've been told not to shave it yet but I'm getting close to just saying fuck it and shave it, I can only imagine what a liberating feeling that would be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 08, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
That’d be a bold call and a big FU to the slow approach. If you’re already balding and have a short cut anyway.....what’s the worst thing that could happen? If it’s so utterly ‘bad’ it’d only be a month or so before you’d get your surviving coverage back.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
That’d be a bold call and a big FU to the slow approach. If you’re already balding and have a short cut anyway.....what’s the worst thing that could happen? If it’s so utterly ‘bad’ it’d only be a month or so before you’d get your surviving coverage back.

You're not losing your hair are you?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: PowerSlave on January 08, 2019, 05:47:37 PM
I had long hair in my late teens and early 20's, then it started falling out fairly quickly by the time I got to my mid-20's. I started shaving it, and I haven't looked back. It's so much easier to take care of by simply taking a razor to it once, or twice a week. It's very nice in the summer months.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 08, 2019, 06:00:08 PM
That’d be a bold call and a big FU to the slow approach. If you’re already balding and have a short cut anyway.....what’s the worst thing that could happen? If it’s so utterly ‘bad’ it’d only be a month or so before you’d get your surviving coverage back.

You're not losing your hair are you?

No bald spot yet but receding hairline. It’s gonna happen eventually though. Im a spitting image of my Dad and he slowly lost his once he got into his 40’s
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2019, 06:01:48 PM
I've been told not to shave it yet but I'm getting close to just saying fuck it and shave it, I can only imagine what a liberating feeling that would be.

@PowerSlave... I could've written that post word for word.

I was 21 the first time someone mentioned I was thinning/going bald.  Started taking clippers to my hair in my late 20s; started shaving it down to the wood in my early 30s.

Kade... Welcome to the club.  Showers are shorter (I can be in and out in 2 minutes or less), haircutting and shampoo/conditioner expenses for the last 15 years adds up to about $0.  I love the feel of a freshly shaven head on my pillow in the evening. 

I never had a problem with losing my hair.  It's never defined me or my identity in any way.  I remember a commercial from when I was young (why I remember this, I have no idea).... it was for Amstel beer, and the whole premise of the commercial was about confidence and not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks about you.  There was a 40-something bald guy in one of the shots hanging with his pals at the bar and having a great laugh, and the narration was 'This is for Bill... who has never once thought about getting a hair transplant'.  No clue why that stuck with me as a teenager, but when my time came, I never once thought about fighting or faking my hairline.

When I started losing my hair, it just didn't matter to me.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 08, 2019, 06:16:56 PM
I can be in and out in 2 minutes or less

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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2019, 06:23:40 PM
I've been told not to shave it yet but I'm getting close to just saying fuck it and shave it, I can only imagine what a liberating feeling that would be.

@PowerSlave... I could've written that post word for word.

I was 21 the first time someone mentioned I was thinning/going bald.  Started taking clippers to my hair in my late 20s; started shaving it down to the wood in my early 30s.

Kade... Welcome to the club.  Showers are shorter (I can be in and out in 2 minutes or less), haircutting and shampoo/conditioner expenses for the last 15 years adds up to about $0.  I love the feel of a freshly shaven head on my pillow in the evening. 

I never had a problem with losing my hair.  It's never defined me or my identity in any way.  I remember a commercial from when I was young (why I remember this, I have no idea).... it was for Amstel beer, and the whole premise of the commercial was about confidence and not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks about you.  There was a 40-something bald guy in one of the shots hanging with his pals at the bar and having a great laugh, and the narration was 'This is for Bill... who has never once thought about getting a hair transplant'.  No clue why that stuck with me as a teenager, but when my time came, I never once thought about fighting or faking my hairline.

When I started losing my hair, it just didn't matter to me.

Yeah, I don't really give a shit what other people think of me, I just think I would look like a complete knob with a shaven head, I just don't think it would suit.  Having no expenses and saving time though on having no hair is really what makes me want to almost do it.  My gf is just not keen on that idea, but it will have to be done at some stage I guess.  It's great that it never mattered to you Chad, shows the type of man you are.

If Minoxidil makes a considerable difference, then I'll see it through, if I don't think it's worth the time, I think it will go.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 08, 2019, 07:34:58 PM
I go to the barber every 5 weeks and get a #1.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 08, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
I go to the barber every 5 weeks and get a #1.

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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 08, 2019, 08:25:08 PM
I wish!  I miss my curly mullet.  Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 09, 2019, 01:56:57 AM
The right thing to do is don't give a shit. If your hair falls out, it falls out and (imo) nothing can change that. My dad had a bald spot very early and he spent a fortune on tonics, pills and other miracle cures, but nothing helped. That money could have been spent better.

Up until 35 I had really long hair, until then it's all downhill.  :biggrin: I'm not bald yet, but have a seriously receding hairline and a bald spot on top that grows bigger every year. It is what it is and that's good. And maybe one day I will shave my head completely and that will be good too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2019, 02:33:20 AM
My dad had a bald spot very early and he spent a fortune on tonics, pills and other miracle cures, but nothing helped. That money could have been spent better.


I spent a fortune on half a dozen EVH Gear baseball caps - I have one for every occasion  :biggrin:    I'm sure people talk about it behind my back - "always has a bloody cap on"............but if it wasn't that they'd be talking about my dodgy hairstyle.   Either way - stuff 'em  ;)   My grandfather was totally bald in his 20's , my dad in his 30s so I am doing alright with a big bald patch (but thick and wavy elsewhere) in my mid 40's. :metal 


I can also relate to the talk above about mobility - I have no real choice in the matter.  Ever since I busted my leg (at the knee and ankle) I have had very limited shock absorption in the leg and can't run much further than 20-30m without it being a pain.  No prospect for improvement so , like the hair , I just live with the idea.  :-\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 09, 2019, 03:11:28 AM

I spent a fortune on half a dozen EVH Gear baseball caps - I have one for every occasion  :biggrin: 

Now that is money well spent.  :metal :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2019, 04:23:07 AM
The right thing to do is don't give a shit. If your hair falls out, it falls out and (imo) nothing can change that. My dad had a bald spot very early and he spent a fortune on tonics, pills and other miracle cures, but nothing helped. That money could have been spent better.

Up until 35 I had really long hair, until then it's all downhill.  :biggrin: I'm not bald yet, but have a seriously receding hairline and a bald spot on top that grows bigger every year. It is what it is and that's good. And maybe one day I will shave my head completely and that will be good too.

These comments make me feel good.  You guys have the best attitudes.  Accepting is something I am getting better at but I've paid $140 bucks so I will put it to use with this monoxidil.  If I try at least I can say I did try.  The more I read  thouhh the more obvious it is that it's something that is so common and really there is no proper cure.  If there was an easy cure there would be a lot less bald men walking around.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2019, 04:26:14 AM
My dad had a bald spot very early and he spent a fortune on tonics, pills and other miracle cures, but nothing helped. That money could have been spent better.


I spent a fortune on half a dozen EVH Gear baseball caps - I have one for every occasion  :biggrin:    I'm sure people talk about it behind my back - "always has a bloody cap on"............but if it wasn't that they'd be talking about my dodgy hairstyle.   Either way - stuff 'em  ;)   My grandfather was totally bald in his 20's , my dad in his 30s so I am doing alright with a big bald patch (but thick and wavy elsewhere) in my mid 40's. :metal 


I can also relate to the talk above about mobility - I have no real choice in the matter.  Ever since I busted my leg (at the knee and ankle) I have had very limited shock absorption in the leg and can't run much further than 20-30m without it being a pain.  No prospect for improvement so , like the hair , I just live with the idea.  :-\

The combover works well enough for me too at the moment.  ;D

Brent that leg accodent really knocked you around mate, awful stuff.  Did you ever get physio afterwards to try and help with mobility?  It's probably not too late.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on January 09, 2019, 05:07:02 AM
I've had a receding hairline since I was in my late 20's...mostly on the left and right "corners" of the front of my hairline.  Most of the men on my dad's side have the same thing (an uncle and a few cousins).  My dad's hair is still great at 64, but he's dyed it for as long as I can remember.  He's only recently started letting the gray show now that he's a grandfather and retired.   :) 

I've been going gray slowly since I hit 30 and I don't mind it.  I've had curly hair all of my life, so it's nice to have hair that's a bit straighter, even if it's grayer.  Being short and fairly younger looking for most of my life, it's allowed me to look more my age and not be carded when buying liquor.   :lol  The older I get (I'll be 39 in May) the less I care about how it might look.  I'm married with kids - I don't have to impress anyone.  Every month I get it cut with a #1/#2 and keep it fairly short.  That hides the receding hairline a bit more too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 09, 2019, 07:09:10 AM
What's all this teen-aged whinging about hair loss in the old as mold clubhouse?! :getoffmylawn:

Take a clue from Chad and dig out the dog clippers from the utility closet and mow that nasty, whispy, fringe down to nubs. It will take you longer to fish your dentures out of the whisky glass than it will to comb your hair with a wash cloth and women will no longer turn away in disgust from your skullet.

Now let's get back to comparing medications and the trials of getting out of recliners at the end of the evening!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2019, 07:25:11 AM
Going to the barber to get a #1 or #2 is like taking you car to the mechanic to fill it up with gas.  Invest $30 or $40 for a good trimmer and do it yourself.

Unless of course there's a hot shampoo girl that you're shagging on the side.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2019, 07:40:43 AM
If barber shops with hot shampoo girls were a thing around here then I might get out more often -  might've be a business idea in that pre-PC/fun police  :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 09, 2019, 08:12:55 AM
Going to the barber to get a #1 or #2 is like taking you car to the mechanic to fill it up with gas.  Invest $30 or $40 for a good trimmer and do it yourself.

Unless of course there's a hot shampoo girl that you're shagging on the side.
Out of curiosity, do you use a trimmer or do you shave your skull the old fashioned way? I have no desire to be a cue ball, but I know people who manually shave their heads and it seems like a tremendous pain in the ass. Fuck, I don't even like shaving my face (as people who've met we will attest).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2019, 08:25:47 AM
Going to the barber to get a #1 or #2 is like taking you car to the mechanic to fill it up with gas.  Invest $30 or $40 for a good trimmer and do it yourself.

Unless of course there's a hot shampoo girl that you're shagging on the side.
Out of curiosity, do you use a trimmer or do you shave your skull the old fashioned way? I have no desire to be a cue ball, but I know people who manually shave their heads and it seems like a tremendous pain in the ass. Fuck, I don't even like shaving my face (as people who've met we will attest).

Both.  When I let things go for more than a week, I don't want to 'clog' my blades with hair, so I'll use the trimmer without an attachment to get it to stubble.  Then I use a blade to go Kojak-style.  If I've only got a couple of days of growth, I use a 'head-blade', but it only holds double-bladed razors... so when I have more than a few days of growth, I use a triple or quad blade razor.

(http://www.headblade.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/HB_Sport_2013_600x600.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 09, 2019, 08:34:59 AM
Christ, I'd rather pay for the #1.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2019, 08:54:06 AM
Going to the barber to get a #1 or #2 is like taking you car to the mechanic to fill it up with gas.  Invest $30 or $40 for a good trimmer and do it yourself.

Unless of course there's a hot shampoo girl that you're shagging on the side.

My father in law owns a barber shop.  It's free for me
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2019, 08:54:53 AM
Yeah, but is there a hot shampoo girl?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2019, 08:56:08 AM
Nope.  I married for that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2019, 03:04:24 PM
Going to the barber to get a #1 or #2 is like taking you car to the mechanic to fill it up with gas.  Invest $30 or $40 for a good trimmer and do it yourself.

Unless of course there's a hot shampoo girl that you're shagging on the side.
Out of curiosity, do you use a trimmer or do you shave your skull the old fashioned way? I have no desire to be a cue ball, but I know people who manually shave their heads and it seems like a tremendous pain in the ass. Fuck, I don't even like shaving my face (as people who've met we will attest).

Both.  When I let things go for more than a week, I don't want to 'clog' my blades with hair, so I'll use the trimmer without an attachment to get it to stubble.  Then I use a blade to go Kojak-style.  If I've only got a couple of days of growth, I use a 'head-blade', but it only holds double-bladed razors... so when I have more than a few days of growth, I use a triple or quad blade razor.

(http://www.headblade.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/HB_Sport_2013_600x600.jpg)

Can I ride that thing to work?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 09, 2019, 03:13:26 PM
 :lol

Looks like a snowmobile.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2019, 03:19:13 PM
It's a sleek design, for sure.  Just so you get the perspective

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScF6LJMpMP2fa5GS7KUF2usx4VakDCPT4PpkwrnNMYGnQXZRKh)

They also sell Head Lube!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41E8iwSGFwL._SY355_.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 09, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
I thought head lube was for when...

Sorry, I was thinking of something else.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 09, 2019, 03:24:43 PM
It's a sleek design, for sure.  Just so you get the perspective

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScF6LJMpMP2fa5GS7KUF2usx4VakDCPT4PpkwrnNMYGnQXZRKh)

Oh wow! I thought the thing was a handle. That's really small.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on January 09, 2019, 03:34:28 PM
Huh huh huh uh huh huh huh head lube huh uh huh huh huh...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
Huh huh huh uh huh huh huh head lube huh uh huh huh huh...

:bnb:

@TAC... the 'hook' is a handle, that you slip your finger in to.  Yeah yeah yeah... that's what she said.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
I dont know why I stumbled here but the balding talk is gold  :lol  And as wolfking says hes 34, the same age as me, I guess I can join the old as mold club. 

I'm slowly balding, not terribly but there's a spot on the back of my head and of course the receding hairline.  But:

I go to the barber every 5 weeks and get a #1.

This is me.  I've been getting #2's though, my GF would rather me not be that close to bald and I am somewhat agreeing with her lately.  Especially since I had gone a couple years with long hair.  I'm really not coordinated well enough to buzz my own head, and my GF's attempt left a lot of unbuzzed spots so I think it's easiest and best to just get one of the ladies down the street to do it for me.  But I also agree to not go out of your way to try and "fix" your baldness.  It's natural and its YOU so you got to just accept it.  My father has been doing tricks to prevent his balding and I just look at it as a waste of time and money. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: v_clortho on January 09, 2019, 04:05:44 PM
Come on guys. You really should go for the Bill Murray in Kingpin look.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2019, 04:11:32 PM
Come on guys. You really should go for the Bill Murray in Kingpin look.

I had to goggle that.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 09, 2019, 04:39:09 PM
I'll take overrated actors for $400, Alex.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
and my GF's attempt left a lot of unbuzzed spots

Dude... the first time I decided that I'd just take clippers to my head on my own, it was pre-kids and I had mrs.jingle do it in our kitchen.  I'm sitting in a chair, and we wet my hair just a wee bit too much.  The clippers couldn't get thru it, and holy fuck did we butcher my head (at first).  I was freaking out a bit because it was a Sunday night, and I had a customer meeting Monday morning!  Finally, we realized the problem, dried my hair a little, and then it was smooth sailing.

Protip... if you're using a #2 or higher on longish hair, don't wet your hair too much.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2019, 05:31:23 PM

Brent that leg accodent really knocked you around mate, awful stuff.  Did you ever get physio afterwards to try and help with mobility?  It's probably not too late.

yeah mate - months of (pretty painful) physio to get it back in to some sort of shape.

When I said mobility I was referring to general mobility , not the joint itself.   I gave the physio away once I was comfortable walking but I could've done further work on the strength side of things.  It stuffed me up in so many areas (incl. financially) that once I could walk I just moved on to other things rather than feeling I had the luxury of gym time each day.  I have never managed to get any sort of "spare time" back as I'm too busy trying to dig myself out of a hole .
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
That's rough bro.  I find once you are past the initial stages of an injury physios are kind of a waste of money and you can get to where you need to yourself..  Some physios know less than dr google anyway.  I had one once that legit didn't know a damn thing and I knew more than her.

Head up mate.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 09, 2019, 10:17:53 PM
I'm in a similar situation myself. Dec 2007 (I was 31) I was hit head on by an 82 year grandma doing 55+. She crossed over and slammed me. Needed to be cut out of my van. Opened the side like a can and then had to cut my seat at the base to get me out from under the dash. Shattered my left femur and my right ankle and fractured my right wrist. 10 hours of reconstructive surgery and 1 1/2 months between 3 different facilities - a hospital, a nursing home and finally a rehab hospital. 8-10 screws in my knee, 4 in my hip and a plate running the distance. 2 plates and about 8 screws in my ankle. All removed now, sans a screw in my knee that got completely encased in bone.

Had to learn how to walk again and everything. I have little to no tolerance for anything that I used to enjoy. The few times I have gone to Six Flags or to Summerfest in Milwaukee it's a nightmare. I'm nearly in tears by the end of the day and running on pure adrenaline to get to the car and sit. I should be in an adult softball league now but I can't run. A fast walk is about my max.

I'm 42 but my body is about 62. When I am at a concert and have to stand, my right ankle/foot goes numb from standing. I have to constantly move as much as possible to keep from falling over.

The only good news is that I continue to beat the odds. My left knee was supposed to go about 8 years ago but instead I keep getting stronger. I even grew back more bone then expected for my age at the time. Honestly, my ankle is far worse than my knee.

I do the old guy thing and have been in a bowling league for 8 or 9 years now. That was fun the first few years since I couldn't plant on my left leg. I looked bizarre. Within the last 2 or 3 years I was finally able to plant properly. Like I said, getting stronger for no good reason.

Anyway, that's most of my story. Body is much older than it should be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2019, 11:40:16 PM
Wow, the just awful mate.  Your positivity and will is what's making you stronger I believe.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2019, 01:20:55 AM
Sorry to hear about all that Prof  :-\   I still have all the metalwork (plates and screws) in my knee and ankle - what sort of difference did having it out make for you?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 10, 2019, 05:14:42 AM
Now that was a proper story for this thread. The Prof rocks!

I'm not sure how I feel about you getting better though. It's cool and all, but that never happens to me. I wonder what we do differently?  :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2019, 06:31:50 AM
Dang ProfessorPeart.....that’s a brutal story. But sounds like there’s a great story about overcoming some terrible circumstances as well  Here’s to your body continuing to ‘get stronger for no good reason’   :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2019, 06:32:54 AM
Dang ProfessorPeart.....that’s a brutal story.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 10, 2019, 06:57:09 AM
Amazing and incredible that ....  everyone survived.

RAAAAAWWWWRRRRR!!!  :neverusethis:

Seriously tho, sucks that it happened, but good that things are improving better than expected.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 10, 2019, 07:05:42 AM
and my GF's attempt left a lot of unbuzzed spots

Dude... the first time I decided that I'd just take clippers to my head on my own, it was pre-kids and I had mrs.jingle do it in our kitchen.  I'm sitting in a chair, and we wet my hair just a wee bit too much.  The clippers couldn't get thru it, and holy fuck did we butcher my head (at first).  I was freaking out a bit because it was a Sunday night, and I had a customer meeting Monday morning!  Finally, we realized the problem, dried my hair a little, and then it was smooth sailing.

Protip... if you're using a #2 or higher on longish hair, don't wet your hair too much.

I don't wet my hair at all for a buzz cut.  Typically I'll shower a bit before a hair cut so whoever is touching me is dealing with a clean head plus I am a greasy italian so this way my hair is smoother. But I don't spray water or anything before the actual cut. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 10, 2019, 07:50:34 AM
Sorry to hear about all that Prof  :-\   I still have all the metalwork (plates and screws) in my knee and ankle - what sort of difference did having it out make for you?

The ankle hardware was removed within a year or so after. They just said it was time to remove it. The hardware in my left leg was there longer. After a while, I started to have a lot of pain and trouble walking. I went to a new orthopedic (hated the guy I got saddled with after my trauma surgeon left the area shortly after putting me back together) and said I think it's time to remove my hardware. They tried a cortisone shot first which did nothing so I went back again and said just remove it. They agreed and I had the surgery. Had to go through rehab again but it made everything better.

I guess it just depends on the person. I hear that leaving it in can help people but that with some, it can start to cause problems and pain.

The other part that I left out of that was 2 years or so after it all happened I started having major issues in my knee. They couldn't find anything on scans and were just going to not do anything (this was the replacement ortho that I hated). His P.A. just happened to be present during all of my surgeries and lobbied on my behalf for an exploratory. They somehow agreed. Opened me up and found a rogue screw had shifted and turned my meniscus to shredded cheese. He removed the screw and shaved the hanging bits off of my meniscus.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2019, 07:56:28 AM
Opened me up and found a rogue screw had shifted and turned my meniscus to shredded cheese. He removed the screw and shaved the hanging bits off of my meniscus.

Holy Cow  :omg:    Your experience is incredible....not a good way incredible but 'incredible' in the fact that SO much happened to you. Just crazy....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Lonk on January 10, 2019, 08:14:27 AM
Holy cow, and here I am complaining about 2 torn ligaments from playing Basketball.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2019, 08:53:34 AM
Sorry to hear about all that Prof  :-\   I still have all the metalwork (plates and screws) in my knee and ankle - what sort of difference did having it out make for you?

The ankle hardware was removed within a year or so after. They just said it was time to remove it. The hardware in my left leg was there longer. After a while, I started to have a lot of pain and trouble walking. I went to a new orthopedic (hated the guy I got saddled with after my trauma surgeon left the area shortly after putting me back together) and said I think it's time to remove my hardware. They tried a cortisone shot first which did nothing so I went back again and said just remove it. They agreed and I had the surgery. Had to go through rehab again but it made everything better.

I guess it just depends on the person. I hear that leaving it in can help people but that with some, it can start to cause problems and pain.

The other part that I left out of that was 2 years or so after it all happened I started having major issues in my knee. They couldn't find anything on scans and were just going to not do anything (this was the replacement ortho that I hated). His P.A. just happened to be present during all of my surgeries and lobbied on my behalf for an exploratory. They somehow agreed. Opened me up and found a rogue screw had shifted and turned my meniscus to shredded cheese. He removed the screw and shaved the hanging bits off of my meniscus.

You don't do things by half measures  ;D

Thanks for that.    I have had all the hardware in for 4 years now and was never prodded to have it out.   I operate under the assumption that whatever can go wrong will go wrong (hereby known as the Professor Peart Rule) and so going under for another procedure and another minor rehab isn't appealing if there's no great benefit to be had.

Aside from some pretty nasty shooting pain up and down the leg (only a few times a week and just for a couple of minutes) and a burning sensation in the knee that comes and goes - my theory is some scar tissue between the skin and the plate - I don't have too many ongoing issues other than a total lack of shock absorption in the knee when running.   So I figure that I might as well leave things alone if they're not bothering me mich.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on January 10, 2019, 12:54:04 PM
I guess I am lucky since I am 45 and still have a ton of hair. And thick hair to boot.

I’ve never felt so old as I do right now. Right groin has been barking at me for three weeks now. Tweaked it in a hockey game.....left elbow has some sort of weird persistent ache to where it’s effecting my grip strength....and both my ankles and right knee have been sending out signals that they aren’t happy with me as well.

Been training for two upcoming Trail Run races, (Feb. 17th & March 3rd) and playing hockey on Sundays. It’s starting to catch up to me I think. I’ve been a runner since Thanksgiving of 2007.....at least 3X a week minimum since then.....so I’m wondering being that running is so high impact on the joints that it’s just catching up to me?

Whatever it is.....I don’t believe I’ve ever had this many ailments all at once

Welcome to 40+! :lol :censored

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2019, 02:15:08 PM
I guess I am lucky since I am 45 and still have a ton of hair. And thick hair to boot.

Yeah, funny how some guys are prone to balding and other guys just aren't.  We're the lucky ones I guess.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 11, 2019, 03:56:27 PM
This was pretty funny.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/are-we-supposed-to-pick-up-the-phone-and-then-do-it-hilarious-footage-shows-two-teenagers-completely-baffled-by-a-rotary-telephone-when-given-four-minutes-to-make-one-call/ar-BBS3IkS?li=BBnbcA0
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2019, 04:22:15 PM
I love stuff like that.  There's a scene in the movie "In and Out" where Matt Dillon's character is visiting his home town with some vapid supermodel, and they have an argument in their hotel room, so he leaves.  Alone now, she looks at the phone on the desk, and it's an old rotary phone.  Never seen the movie before, but I said "She won't know how to use the phone" and yeah I was right.  Fun stuff.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 11, 2019, 05:07:16 PM
This was pretty funny.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/are-we-supposed-to-pick-up-the-phone-and-then-do-it-hilarious-footage-shows-two-teenagers-completely-baffled-by-a-rotary-telephone-when-given-four-minutes-to-make-one-call/ar-BBS3IkS?li=BBnbcA0

I've seen vids like that before - with a rotary phone, and another with a fax machine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2019, 05:35:32 PM
In the driveway.   What a long ass week.  I'm to old for this shit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 11, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
I didn't really know where else to put this, but I wanted to share and figure this group would understand the best.

Mrs. P and I payed off our house yesterday! :fireworks:

That was it. That was the last debt we owed. No cars payments, no credit card debt, no student loan debt, no more debt at all.

Tonight we are burning the mortgage and drinking champagne!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 11, 2019, 05:53:05 PM
Congrats, that is awesome! Must feel good to have accomplished that
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 11, 2019, 06:21:02 PM
I didn't really know where else to put this, but I wanted to share and figure this group would understand the best.

Mrs. P and I payed off our house yesterday! :fireworks:

That was it. That was the last debt we owed. No cars payments, no credit card debt, no student loan debt, no more debt at all.

Tonight we are burning the mortgage and drinking champagne!
:tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 11, 2019, 06:31:31 PM
Awesome!!!

:fireworks:
Tonight we are  drinking champagne!

She'll know you are ready for business when you wheel this bad boy into the bedroom!

(https://smhttp-ssl-20535-live.nexcesscdn.net/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/7404802beeff3fa267c6c559db2b5385/o/e/oe-racatac3-ea_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2019, 09:24:18 PM
Congrats to Mr. and Mrs. Peccary!!

(https://imgur.com/wlEFgu2.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 12, 2019, 05:53:12 AM
Thanks guys. It feels good. If ya'll haven't already, I hope you get there yourselves. :soon:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 12, 2019, 06:18:25 AM
We got there almost 2 years ago when I was packaged out from my job at the time.  Took a big chunk of the severance, and paid off the house.  It is an amazing feeling.  But.... With the move we have coming up (we've bought a house at very close to the same amount we'll sell this house for), and the reno's we're going to put in to it, we'll be taking on a mortgage again.  2-3 years I figure to get it paid off.  I'd like to be mortgage-free (again) by the time I'm 50, but that might be a stretch.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 12, 2019, 06:31:37 AM
I didn't really know where else to put this, but I wanted to share and figure this group would understand the best.

Mrs. P and I payed off our house yesterday! :fireworks:

That was it. That was the last debt we owed. No cars payments, no credit card debt, no student loan debt, no more debt at all.

Tonight we are burning the mortgage and drinking champagne!

Congrats!! What a feeling that must be!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 12, 2019, 09:17:01 AM
I didn't really know where else to put this, but I wanted to share and figure this group would understand the best.

Mrs. P and I payed off our house yesterday! :fireworks:

That was it. That was the last debt we owed. No cars payments, no credit card debt, no student loan debt, no more debt at all.

Tonight we are burning the mortgage and drinking champagne!

Awesome!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
I didn't really know where else to put this, but I wanted to share and figure this group would understand the best.

Mrs. P and I payed off our house yesterday! :fireworks:

That was it. That was the last debt we owed. No cars payments, no credit card debt, no student loan debt, no more debt at all.

Tonight we are burning the mortgage and drinking champagne!

That's a massive achievement.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TheSilentHam on January 12, 2019, 06:55:05 PM
Mrs. P and I payed off our house yesterday!

Congrats!  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 13, 2019, 05:26:00 AM
Thanks to the second batch of Joe-Gary-Wolfking-Marc!

That's a massive achievement.

Only in persistence, though. I'm proof that any moron can do it given enough time.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2019, 03:56:05 AM
Yes, but not many have the ability to have such persistence and consistency for the period of time needed.  Don't sell the achievement short. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on January 16, 2019, 02:27:49 PM
54 and clean bill of health yesterday at my physical! Onward into 2019! :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 16, 2019, 03:23:03 PM
54 and clean bill of health yesterday at my physical! Onward into 2019! :metal

Nice work  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dream Team on March 01, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
So I just blew my wife’s mind by informing her that our wedding date is closer to the Eisenhower presidency than to today.  :omg:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 01, 2019, 06:23:52 PM
So I just blew my wife’s mind by informing her that out wedding date is closer to the Eisenhower presidency than to today.  :omg:

That’s quite a stat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dream Team on March 05, 2019, 12:51:56 PM
Yeah. Some more fun with dates - Iron Maiden's first album, Heaven & Hell by Sabbath, etc, were released closer to WWII than today. That stuff always messes with my head.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2019, 01:06:49 PM
My wife and i have been together for over half of our lives.  Crazy to think about it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2019, 01:24:36 PM
Yeah. Some more fun with dates - Iron Maiden's first album, Heaven & Hell by Sabbath, etc, were released closer to WWII than today. That stuff always messes with my head.

The one that messed with me for a while was when I turned 36/37, and realized the Berlin Wall had been gone for more of my life than it was around.

My wife and i have been together for over half of our lives.  Crazy to think about it.

Coming up on 20 years for the jingles next month.

As far as old as mold - fuck my left knee is buggered.  Feels like someone took a tire iron to that fleshy part below my kneecap.  >:(  Doesn't help that I've got a shit-ton of things to do with this new place.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 05, 2019, 01:32:36 PM
that fleshy part below my kneecap. 

is it a hanging fleshy part :zydar:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2019, 01:38:55 PM
that fleshy part below my kneecap. 

is it a hanging fleshy part :zydar:

Ask your ole lady!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2019, 01:39:35 PM
June we will be together 28 years.

October is our 25th Anniversary.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2019, 07:34:24 PM
Awesome.


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 06, 2019, 06:19:48 AM
*Pffaw*

The pair of shorts I had to throw away yesterday because I sharted in them while at the office where older than DT has been together.

*grumble, grumble, whiper-snappers, grumble*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Indiscipline on March 06, 2019, 06:24:38 AM
More fun with dates:

My wife is 5 years older than my older brother. My older brother's current wife is 5 years older than my wife's daughter.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 06, 2019, 06:41:23 AM
*Pffaw*

The pair of shorts I had to throw away yesterday because I sharted in them while at the office where older than DT has been together.

*grumble, grumble, whiper-snappers, grumble*

Only one? :lol

More fun with dates:

My wife is 5 years older than my older brother. My older brother's current wife is 5 years older than my wife's daughter.

My math brain hurts.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on March 06, 2019, 07:17:49 AM
*Pffaw*

The pair of shorts I had to throw away yesterday because I sharted in them while at the office where older than DT has been together.

*grumble, grumble, whiper-snappers, grumble*

 :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on March 06, 2019, 08:17:39 AM
I remember getting into 2112 and thinking it was such an old song because it was 16 years old.  That was 27 years ago. :omg: :omg:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 06, 2019, 08:19:57 AM
I remember getting into 2112 and thinking it was such an old song because it was 16 years old.  That was 27 years ago. :omg: :omg:

I remember listening to it on an 8-Track. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on March 06, 2019, 12:18:02 PM
SMH, kids these days.  I remember when 2112 came out, and wasn't sure what the big deal was, but my buddy (who had everything through Caress of Steel) grabbed it and told me I needed to get it, too, so I did.  Original Vinyl, baby!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on May 15, 2019, 04:30:43 PM
I was just combing my mustache and my eyes began to water. What the hell? Then I remembered I didn't trim my nose-hairs this past weekend.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2019, 05:12:23 PM
 :lol

I'm thinking about growing a handlebar mustache.   I don't know where to begin.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2019, 05:16:22 PM
:lol

I'm thinking about growing a handlebar mustache.   I don't know where to begin.

I'd probably start with a regular mustache and go from there....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2019, 05:19:31 PM
I have one silly.  I just shaved my beard to a van dyke. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2019, 05:20:01 PM
I have no idea what a van dyke is.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2019, 05:23:50 PM
You have a smart phone right? Lol. I just read up.  No trimming. So we'll see.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 15, 2019, 05:38:12 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what to do with mine.  I have the classic Fu Manchu going on, but for everyday life, it's really a pain in the ass.  Basically, unless I'm really careful, I get it in my mouth whenever I try to eat.

I picked up some mustache wax, but I'm not sure.  I think I have to experiment with how much to use to get some control without it looking "wet".  I actually hate that look.  I want it to look natural somehow.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2019, 05:40:01 PM
Just shave, man.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on May 15, 2019, 05:40:16 PM
I have one silly.  I just shaved my beard to a van dyke.
A proper van dyke, or are the beard and stache connected?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on May 15, 2019, 05:44:20 PM
I have no idea what a van dyke is.

I had a friend who always called Van Dykes “toilet brush mustache”. That should give you a clue, TAC.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2019, 06:12:31 PM
I have one silly.  I just shaved my beard to a van dyke.
A proper van dyke, or are the beard and stache connected?

Not the proper Errol Flynn style. I have done that before .
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2019, 06:31:58 PM
I have a van dyke too..

(https://i2.netflixmovies.com/dibsl9ebc/image/upload/w_300,h_200,c_fill,g_face/fytzqt4yfmcsxt92f3u1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
So he's on your face. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on May 15, 2019, 07:23:54 PM
I'd love to have a van dyke. They just don't look that good on me, though.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 16, 2019, 07:36:17 AM
Just shave, man.

You sound like my wife.  Thank God you don't look like her too, or this could be really awkward.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 16, 2019, 07:41:11 AM
I've 'worn' a beard most of the time....a couple times a year I'll shave completely and go with the 'clean' look for a week or two. Here recently I've gone to the goatee.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on May 16, 2019, 10:04:36 AM
Funny some old as mold dude who works in the same building as me, but not with me or anything, said hi as we walked past each other the other day and goes "oh you shaved your beard"  :lol I can't even grow a beard if I wanted to.  It's not in my genes I just got some stubble and if I don't shave it slowly and poorly grows out just a bit to look really bad.  Sometimes I really wish I could grow one, but most times I am cool without having to shave so often and take care of a potential beard.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 22, 2019, 04:23:55 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/this-toilet-will-predict-if-youll-have-heart-failure/ar-AABKEoY?li=BBnbcA1


(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/21/PROC/78be11ef-b281-40bd-9856-fea0f9faf78a-Conn_HHI.jpg?width=540&height=&fit=bounds&auto=webp)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 22, 2019, 04:45:47 PM
So it has come to this.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 22, 2019, 05:35:22 PM
I don't need that.  It's when you have a solid coming out sideways.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 22, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
It's a heart monitor, not a shart monitor, fool.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 22, 2019, 05:47:57 PM
You don't think your going to die with one of those? :lol

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 30, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
Time for a bump.  I just signed up for a company sponsored financial advisor.  I'm on track to retire in 7 years at age 60!!  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2019, 04:47:36 PM
Time for a bump.  I just signed up for a company sponsored financial advisor.  I'm on track to retire in 7 years at age 60!!  :tup

Awesome!  I'm on a 8-10 year plan.  56 or 57 is my goal retirement.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on May 30, 2019, 05:10:56 PM
Excellent, my friends. I'm also on track to retire in the next year or two as well.

In other fogey news, I bought some New Balance running shoes, but they're not white leather like TAC's.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61V95UY96GL._UX395_.jpg)

Does that make me more or less hip than Tim?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2019, 05:23:36 PM
I'm not sure which would be a compliment vs an insult.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on May 30, 2019, 05:46:28 PM
I'm not sure which would be a compliment vs an insult.

Ah, the criteria on which all post decisions are made.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 30, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
I'm not sure which would be a compliment vs an insult.

 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 30, 2019, 06:21:18 PM
 :lol

Chad, you know the answer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 31, 2019, 09:02:29 AM
Time for a bump.  I just signed up for a company sponsored financial advisor.  I'm on track to retire in 7 years at age 60!!  :tup

Awesome!  I'm on a 8-10 year plan.  56 or 57 is my goal retirement.

Dang!  Even better!  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 31, 2019, 11:17:12 AM
I'm 57 this year, and still have about 10 years to go.  Shit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 31, 2019, 11:51:42 AM
I am 46 and I don't really want to think about it lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 04, 2019, 08:46:48 PM
So I had something new happen to me today.  But of course, there's boring background first.

We bought our house 20 years ago, and when we moved, I continued to see the doctor I'd been seeing for years when we lived in the apartment, even though his office was now 10 miles away.  Not a horrible drive, although 10 miles through endless suburbia can take like half an hour each way.  Then the building my doctor was in got sold and he moved to a new office 10 miles in the other direction.  Definitely less convenient, but still doable once or twice a year.  Then last year he moved again, again not by choice, and the additional five miles or so just made it silly.  After driving an hour each way a few times, it was time to find a new doc, closer to the house.

As it happens, the practice where my wife goes, which is like three miles away, had just gained a new doctor who was taking new patients.  The new doctor is female.  I've always had male doctors for my personal physician, but whatever, I'm sure she's fine and at this point the convenience factor was weighing heavily.  She's Indian, probably early to mid 30's, and not unattractive.  I met her last fall when I had some kind of cough that wouldn't go away.

Today was my annual physical.  Oh.  I hadn't actually thought about that.  Don't really have a problem with it, just wasn't sure how it would... um... play out, when it came to certain parts of the examination.

It was all 100% professional of course, and (thank God) there was no involuntary reaction by any Orbert parts which have not been touched by any female other than Mrs. Orbert in nearly 40 years.  I was both relieved and just the slightest bit disappointed.  Of course, disappointment means that I was expecting, or maybe just kinda hoping, or imagining, that something non-professional would happen, and that was never going to happen.  But I have this rule; whatever it is I'm doing, good or bad, try to find a way to enjoy it.  This wasn't good or bad, just a little awkward, but in this case "enjoying it" would have added to the awkwardness.

Oh, what the fuck.  It felt kinda nice.  I did enjoy it.  She was quite thorough.  And not unattractive.  So there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2019, 05:17:49 AM
What did I just read?  Bob thought he was gonna be in an impromptu amateur porn scene??   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 05, 2019, 07:06:48 AM
I kinda know what he's talking about though. My Doctor is a female as well, cute too, but she already knows I don't have a prostate anymore so I don't get the finger. It's a little disappointing, really.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 05, 2019, 08:31:39 AM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 05, 2019, 08:41:23 AM
I kinda know what he's talking about though. My Doctor is a female as well, cute too, but she already knows I don't have a prostate anymore so I don't get the finger. It's a little disappointing, really.

You should ask her to check, just in case it might have grown back.  Better safe than sorry. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 05, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.

I've had one prostate exam from a female doctor (also what we're apparently calling "not unattractive") but while I went through all the above thoughts, in the moment it was so overwhelming and... clinical for lack of a better word, that in hindsight there was little room for any shenanigans (even if one-sided).   Though for me, the torment continued (Why WEREN'T there shenanigans?  Was she not impressed? How could she not be impressed??) at least until reason kicked in and I realized that she is a qualifed professional that has dealt with this 100 times and likely has had at least some training, if not experience, in making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 05, 2019, 10:02:34 AM
Absolutely.  I'm sure there is training, and "making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible" would be one of the main goals and emphasized in the written materials.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on June 05, 2019, 10:19:07 AM
I'm 39 so entrance into the club is not yet allowed... but the conversation is stimulating.

You guys went from retirement (I'm on the 20-yr plan so hopefully 59) to finger-in-the-ass by a "not unattractive" physician in less than 1 post; that, my friends, is impressive.



Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 05, 2019, 11:07:29 AM
LOL wait a minnit here, I never went into details.  Finger-in-the-ass definitely came a few posts after mine.  I was happy to just have her cupping my balls and primary weapon and checking them for abnormalities.  That was the part I was thinking had the highest probability of involuntary reaction.

But I'm glad I was able to steer the conversation towards finger-in-the-ass.  These are important topics that need to be discussed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 05, 2019, 11:15:52 AM
Yeah, I totally went there (and so did she!  Ba-dum-PAH!)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 05, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
The interesting thing for me - and I'm not joking even a little bit here - is that I'm a sort of serial complimenter.   If the person at the check out does a good job, I tell them.   Guy sold me a replacement head for my weed wacker (absolutely ZERO euphemisms there) and I told him he made my day, because he did.

I had a physical not long ago, and had to discuss a few things that weren't on the check list, and my doctor is GREAT; he takes the time, takes it seriously, and gives what I've found to be great advice.  At the end of the visit (no prostate check) I said "Dr. C, you're a great doctor, thanks."   And he was pleasantly surprised.

After the above prostate, I had to curb my tendency, and I literally didn't say a word. But running through my head was "relatively painless!" and "wow, that was the best prostate exam I ever had!"  and "wow, if only they were all like that!" or something that would have been sincere, and with the best of intent, but in the circumstances would have been nothing but awkward and inappropriate. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 05, 2019, 11:58:58 AM
Ha, Stads.

I had a physical several years ago from my wife's GP and he was pretty rough with the old prostate exam. I was biting down on a complaint, because, well...manly over here. Men don't complain.

He wound up walking me out to reception area where Mrs P was waiting for me. I must have had a look on my face because when she strolled up she raised an eyebrow and asked, "Is everything okay?"

I said, "Fine, but I could use a tender hug." Flipping a thumb over my shoulder, "And he wouldn't give me one."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on June 05, 2019, 01:36:30 PM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.

I've had one prostate exam from a female doctor (also what we're apparently calling "not unattractive") but while I went through all the above thoughts, in the moment it was so overwhelming and... clinical for lack of a better word, that in hindsight there was little room for any shenanigans (even if one-sided).   Though for me, the torment continued (Why WEREN'T there shenanigans?  Was she not impressed? How could she not be impressed??) at least until reason kicked in and I realized that she is a qualifed professional that has dealt with this 100 times and likely has had at least some training, if not experience, in making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible.

Absolutely.  I'm sure there is training, and "making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible" would be one of the main goals and emphasized in the written materials.

Right. A female must have training to have self control in the presence of an uncovered penis. :huh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 05, 2019, 01:40:22 PM
I don't belong in this thread... but...

I don't think it's "self control"... I think it's knowing what actions may cause unwanted uncontrollable results from the uncovered penis.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on June 05, 2019, 01:54:52 PM
I wouldn't take these comments too seriously  :lol

I got an anal exam a few years ago and Podaar, I know the feeling of just wanting a hug after, and definitely not from the dude who just had his finger up my ass  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 05, 2019, 02:14:44 PM
It makes me emotional just thinking about it, Cramx3 :lol


chknptpie, yeah, it's been my experience that most of the posts in this thread are intended to be self-deprecating, not offensive. I read Orbert and Stadler's posts as being more a ironic jab at old men and their stupid libidos. That was certainly my intent. For my part, all apologies if offence was given.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 05, 2019, 02:40:05 PM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.

I've had one prostate exam from a female doctor (also what we're apparently calling "not unattractive") but while I went through all the above thoughts, in the moment it was so overwhelming and... clinical for lack of a better word, that in hindsight there was little room for any shenanigans (even if one-sided).   Though for me, the torment continued (Why WEREN'T there shenanigans?  Was she not impressed? How could she not be impressed??) at least until reason kicked in and I realized that she is a qualifed professional that has dealt with this 100 times and likely has had at least some training, if not experience, in making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible.

Absolutely.  I'm sure there is training, and "making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible" would be one of the main goals and emphasized in the written materials.

Right. A female must have training to have self control in the presence of an uncovered penis. :huh:

Absolutely what Greg said.  This is all meant to be stupid fun under the guise of helpful discussion.  I'm sorry if you were offended.

But there may be some misunderstanding.  I'm not talking about training females to keep themselves under control.  That's not an issue for any competent professional.  I'm talking about training in the form of ensuring that they realize that guys can and will have physiological reactions to just about anything involving females, and when direct contact with genitalia is concerned, multiply that by about 100 (or more).

I have no idea how such cautions would be worded.  I actually laugh at the thought of someone whose job it is to write these cautions, but presume that they do exist.  Somehow impart that light contact can be stimulating, therefore contact must be assertive yet not aggressive.  Similar to how an abdominal exam can tickle, therefore pressing on the abdomen with your other can help alleviate the tickle sensation.  Touching must be steady, no accidental rubbing.  If you need to adjust your grip, break contact and re-establish in the new location.  Moving your finger whilst maintaining physical contact constitutes rubbing, which can lead to embarrassing results.  Stuff like that.

In my experience, females know that guys are basically walking bags of hormones and barely-contained sexual energy, but really don't understand how deep that goes.  2 million years of genetic programming and fine-tuning has resulted in creatures that literally live to procreate, therefore are constantly on the lookout for potential partners, and therefore will (consciously or otherwise) do whatever it takes to bring about that potential partnership.  It takes everything we have to not constantly put the moves on every female in the vicinity who qualifies as "not unattractive".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2019, 02:43:34 PM
This might help.

https://youtu.be/ZcJzb0Rk6RU
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on June 05, 2019, 02:59:25 PM
I have a few doctor friends who have had to deal with genetalia and I get some funny stories from them.  The one said he had to examine a kids balls but his dick was so big that he had to like move it out of the way and said it was so awkward and terrible but he couldn't like make that known  :rollin or times when girls have some vaginal disease and it's absolutely disgusting to go in there but they do it and don't show what they are feeling/thinking.  Never asked if they had some formal training on that, I kind of think it's one of those things when you just adjust and adapt to when you work in a hospital and training may not even be necessary.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 05, 2019, 03:00:41 PM
My personal doctor is also female, and likewise not unattractive.

Really, though, it's not an issue.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 05, 2019, 03:28:06 PM
I had a roommate way back when who told us once about a situation, the exact situation I did not want to find myself in.

When he was growing up, the family pediatrician was female.  This doesn't make much difference to little kids, but once he and his sister got to high school, he started running into situations.  At his annual physical, he was asked to remove his pants, and hesitated because he was embarrassed.  Not embarrassed by his equipment, but by its current state.  He apologized to her half-heartedly and said something like "Usually when I take my pants off for a pretty woman, I get to use it."

Mom and the doctor later conferred and decided that the kids were old enough to go to a regular MD, not a pediatrician anymore.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 05, 2019, 03:28:54 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on June 05, 2019, 03:36:45 PM
 :lol if only I had the balls to say that although my doctors were always male so I really haven't experienced the female doctor touching my jewels phenomena.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 06, 2019, 06:39:25 AM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.

I've had one prostate exam from a female doctor (also what we're apparently calling "not unattractive") but while I went through all the above thoughts, in the moment it was so overwhelming and... clinical for lack of a better word, that in hindsight there was little room for any shenanigans (even if one-sided).   Though for me, the torment continued (Why WEREN'T there shenanigans?  Was she not impressed? How could she not be impressed??) at least until reason kicked in and I realized that she is a qualifed professional that has dealt with this 100 times and likely has had at least some training, if not experience, in making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible.

Absolutely.  I'm sure there is training, and "making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible" would be one of the main goals and emphasized in the written materials.

Right. A female must have training to have self control in the presence of an uncovered penis. :huh:

Can't and won't speak for Obert (thought it sounds like he's in at least partial agreement) but not at all what I said.   I said the DOCTOR, who happens to be a "she" in this case, would likely have some training in the patient experience.   My comment would and should apply equally to a male doctor, and is independent of the sex/gender/orientation/identification of the patient in question.   It's about a potentially awkward experience for either patient or doctor.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on June 06, 2019, 06:45:05 AM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.

I've had one prostate exam from a female doctor (also what we're apparently calling "not unattractive") but while I went through all the above thoughts, in the moment it was so overwhelming and... clinical for lack of a better word, that in hindsight there was little room for any shenanigans (even if one-sided).   Though for me, the torment continued (Why WEREN'T there shenanigans?  Was she not impressed? How could she not be impressed??) at least until reason kicked in and I realized that she is a qualifed professional that has dealt with this 100 times and likely has had at least some training, if not experience, in making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible.

Absolutely.  I'm sure there is training, and "making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible" would be one of the main goals and emphasized in the written materials.

Right. A female must have training to have self control in the presence of an uncovered penis. :huh:

Can't and won't speak for Obert (thought it sounds like he's in at least partial agreement) but not at all what I said.   I said the DOCTOR, who happens to be a "she" in this case, would likely have some training in the patient experience.   My comment would and should apply equally to a male doctor, and is independent of the sex/gender/orientation/identification of the patient in question.   It's about a potentially awkward experience for either patient or doctor.

So if it was a male doctor you would still expect shenanigans and ask yourself was he not impressed? How could he not be impressed? Oh right, he must have some training to control himself.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 06, 2019, 06:46:27 AM
Can't and won't speak for Obert

He can and did speak for himself, half a page ago. I really wish you'd catch up on a thread before you waltz in waiving your dick around! :getoffmylawn:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 06, 2019, 07:11:08 AM
I really didn't know.  I knew that a female would be going where no woman other than Mrs. O had gone in a very long time, and I knew that there would be necessary and intimate physical contact.  I didn't know how I'd react, voluntarily or involuntarily, or mentally for that matter.  Would I be embarassed?  Would I be fine with it and actually enjoy it a little?  Would I react involuntarily?  New ground for me.  That's why when it all went as expected with zero anomolies, it was a bit disappointing.  But this is what it has come to.  Having a female doctor check out my equipment, enjoy it for what it was, and post about it on DTF.

I've had one prostate exam from a female doctor (also what we're apparently calling "not unattractive") but while I went through all the above thoughts, in the moment it was so overwhelming and... clinical for lack of a better word, that in hindsight there was little room for any shenanigans (even if one-sided).   Though for me, the torment continued (Why WEREN'T there shenanigans?  Was she not impressed? How could she not be impressed??) at least until reason kicked in and I realized that she is a qualifed professional that has dealt with this 100 times and likely has had at least some training, if not experience, in making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible.

Absolutely.  I'm sure there is training, and "making the patient experience as professional and as uneventful as possible" would be one of the main goals and emphasized in the written materials.

Right. A female must have training to have self control in the presence of an uncovered penis. :huh:

Can't and won't speak for Obert (thought it sounds like he's in at least partial agreement) but not at all what I said.   I said the DOCTOR, who happens to be a "she" in this case, would likely have some training in the patient experience.   My comment would and should apply equally to a male doctor, and is independent of the sex/gender/orientation/identification of the patient in question.   It's about a potentially awkward experience for either patient or doctor.

So if it was a male doctor you would still expect shenanigans and ask yourself was he not impressed? How could he not be impressed? Oh right, he must have some training to control himself.

Not the same thing.  Respectfully, you're looking at it in too binary a way. It's not about "FEMALE doctor", and all the power/societal dynamics that get wrapped up in that.   It's about the mindset of the potential for "shenanigans" with two people in a room.  I wouldn't "expect shenanigans", because I'm not interested in shenanigans with another man.  But if I was?  Or if I knew that the doctor might be?   Absolutely.   And would I ask myself if he was impressed?  ABSOLUTELY.   EVERYONE should be impressed (I say that to be funny, but in a serious way, I'm not at all joking.)

This is not gender dynamics at all. It's interpersonal sexual dynamics, and to a lesser extent, MY feelings of being judged.  And that can happen between ANY two people regardless of gender.   And with a doctor, the answer remains:  the doctor is (or should be) trained in a way to keep it professional. 

Change this to a "massage" (I mean a legit massage).   My best friend's wife is a certified masseuse.   She IS trained, in pressure points and in reaction points, to diffuse a potentially sexual situation.  I never once ever went to a male masseuse before I learned that.  They are trained to deal with these circumstances.   Now?  Doesn't bother me (well, it does, sort of; I don't like strangers touching me, but that's not a sex thing).  You can use psychotherapists as well.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 06, 2019, 07:44:36 AM
Come on dude, you got called out for making a tasteless dick joke. Own it, learn from it. From now on leave the tastelessness to the experts...like Black Floyd.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 06, 2019, 07:52:18 AM
Come on dude, you got called out for making a tasteless dick joke. Own it, learn from it. From now on leave the tastelessness to the experts...like Black Floyd.  :lol

If that was truly the case, I would have "owned it, learned from it" and moved on.   But it wasn't.   We're allowed to talk about males and females without it being an explicit statement on gender/sexual power dynamics.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on June 06, 2019, 12:10:10 PM
My doctor quit the finger test a few years back and relies on the PSA from the normal blood test each year.  I have heard that some doctors disagree and actually do both the finger test and PSA.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on June 07, 2019, 09:50:27 AM
Snip

In my experience, females know that guys are basically walking bags of hormones and barely-contained sexual energy, but really don't understand how deep that goes.  2 million years of genetic programming and fine-tuning has resulted in creatures that literally live to procreate, therefore are constantly on the lookout for potential partners, and therefore will (consciously or otherwise) do whatever it takes to bring about that potential partnership.  It takes everything we have to not constantly put the moves on every female in the vicinity who qualifies as "not unattractive".
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This here is the best explanation I've ever seen of the male psyche... it's not intentional please understand.  Blame Adam for walking around with a naked woman in paradise... we're always trying to get back to that.   :lol

I had a roommate way back when who told us once about a situation, the exact situation I did not want to find myself in.

When he was growing up, the family pediatrician was female.  This doesn't make much difference to little kids, but once he and his sister got to high school, he started running into situations.  At his annual physical, he was asked to remove his pants, and hesitated because he was embarrassed.  Not embarrassed by his equipment, but by its current state.  He apologized to her half-heartedly and said something like "Usually when I take my pants off for a pretty woman, I get to use it."

Mom and the doctor later conferred and decided that the kids were old enough to go to a regular MD, not a pediatrician anymore.

 :rollin  I need to hang out in here more... there's gold in here, Gold!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2019, 06:40:27 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/good-news/they-call-themselves-old-coots-and-they-have-some-advice-for-you/ar-AAEVOws?li=BBnbcA1

 :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2019, 08:04:55 PM
That’ll be Stadler, TAC, and Shmegland in 15 years.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2019, 08:05:56 PM
That's Stadler and Shmegland now!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
That's Stadler and Shmegland now!

Dude, you’re the biggest copy of all around here!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 27, 2019, 08:10:42 PM
Difference is that Tim doesn't give good advice. He just asked questions because he's confused.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2019, 08:11:58 PM
 :lol


I've never been called a copy before. :lol
What is that? :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 27, 2019, 08:14:09 PM
I fucking knew you were a clone.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2019, 08:16:08 PM
(https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?quality=85&image_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fo.aolcdn.com%2Fhss%2Fstorage%2Fmidas%2F67b463acb219f1b44017978d560a67fc%2F204130334%2Fdolly-sheep-clones-university-of-nottingham.jpg&client=amp-blogside-v2&signature=7774fcd5056c16d234216fa60df303d768a0c202)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on August 02, 2019, 06:38:03 AM
That's right up my alley, though.  We need to form a "North East Branch" of the Old Coots.  I'm in!  (I don't have red socks like that guy on the left, though.)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on August 02, 2019, 12:56:36 PM
(https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?quality=85&image_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fo.aolcdn.com%2Fhss%2Fstorage%2Fmidas%2F67b463acb219f1b44017978d560a67fc%2F204130334%2Fdolly-sheep-clones-university-of-nottingham.jpg&client=amp-blogside-v2&signature=7774fcd5056c16d234216fa60df303d768a0c202)

"No, they're not cloning sheep. It's the same sheep... I saw Harry Blackstone do that trick with two goats and a handkerchief on the old Dean Martin show!"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2019, 05:40:45 PM
Standing up for 3 hours at a concert then the long, and I mean long walk to the car just so you can get out of the venue fast did a number on my feet and legs.

I'm so out of shape.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on August 02, 2019, 06:24:13 PM
Yeah, I'm usually pretty beat after a concert these days too. Combination of getting older and being out of shape.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2019, 07:09:11 PM
Standing up for 3 hours at a concert then the long, and I mean long walk to the car just so you can get out of the venue fast did a number on my feet and legs.

I fucking parked in the damn woods. Holy shit!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2019, 07:18:05 PM
We paid in that lot one.  Holy fucking walk! 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2019, 07:49:35 PM
We paid in that lot one.  Holy fucking walk!

That's like basically walking to the highway.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2019, 07:59:43 PM
We drove right out though but hot damn that felt like a mile walk.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2019, 08:04:09 PM
We drove right out though but hot damn that felt like a mile walk.

It was! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 02, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
I think it was!   :lol

I needed it but not after a concert.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on August 04, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
That was me last night.   :tdwn

But it was worth it.  What a show.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on August 04, 2019, 04:56:41 PM
 :lol that was a long walk out of there

20k steps yesterday according to my phone and I believe it.  2 mile walk to the venue, stand and rock out for 4 hours, 2 mile walk back to the hotel.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 21, 2019, 11:13:23 AM
:lol that was a long walk out of there

20k steps yesterday according to my phone and I believe it.  2 mile walk to the venue, stand and rock out for 4 hours, 2 mile walk back to the hotel.
Pfffffffffffft.....  and you call yourself a fogey!  No self respecting Old Fogey could accomplish what you did!!  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on September 09, 2019, 07:32:21 PM
Step aside young'uns....newly christened 50 year old coming through....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 09, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Let's knight RJ with our pill containers. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 09, 2019, 08:43:10 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/6q32IVXlx8AnohLw9kHytHFXeUVC5XTeYTHw9efw-hQ.png?auto=webp&s=71351ef9bbfce091cd5118255488f7a2dfcf73b0)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 09, 2019, 09:17:10 PM
Welcome to Club Five-O!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on September 09, 2019, 11:49:09 PM
When do I get my key to the luxury lounge?



Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 10, 2019, 06:32:13 AM
Our clerk Daniel has them, but he doesn't remember where he put them.  He's 92, and sometimes loses things.  As soon as he finds them, we'll let you know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on September 10, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/6q32IVXlx8AnohLw9kHytHFXeUVC5XTeYTHw9efw-hQ.png?auto=webp&s=71351ef9bbfce091cd5118255488f7a2dfcf73b0)

My wife takes so many pills that she has day time and night time pill boxes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on November 02, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
Ok so as some of you know, I had surgery to remove my gallbladder yesterday. Sitting at home, in pain, recuperating. The reason I bring this to the old thread is that per usual for a surgery like this they had me stop taking ibuprofen, naproxen, and aspirin a week before.


All I can tell you is I felt every single muscle and joint in my body for a week. Never realized how much of a crutch that shit was. Fuck I'm old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on November 03, 2019, 03:36:16 AM
I'm purely guessing, lonestar, but I'll bet you take those primarily for your hands. With your chosen profession it makes sense to me your hands, hips, knees, and ankles would probably be the most creaky. Lots of standing and griping things.In before TAC makes a super-lame-ass grampa joke about gripping
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2019, 05:16:18 AM
Yup, hands, elbows and shoulders. On top of age, I also have psoriatic arthritis. Medication helps, but yeah, the chosen profession does me no favors. I'm one promotion away from a position that's more a desk job, so here's to hard work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 03, 2019, 05:44:31 AM
How you feeling this morning RJ?

I woke up with a pulled muscle in my lower right back.  My brother is coming over to help build my portable 10 by 8 shed today.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Hey RJ, didn't realize you had surgery. Hope you recover well.



I take 2 Aleve twice a day for bone spurs in my hips. I have a bad rotator cuff. And...

(https://meme.xyz/uploads/posts/t/40702-one-word-diabeetus.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2019, 06:50:37 AM
Thanks Tim...Feeling world's better this morning, now it just feels as if I got punched in the guy multiple times instead of stabbed.



Yeah, I got the shoulder shit as well, years of playing adult softball while loaded and not warming up properly ripped that shit up. And of course, the old diabetes, bane of drunken chefs everywhere.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2019, 06:52:49 AM
Nothing worse than getting punched in my guy! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 03, 2019, 06:59:19 AM
My guy. Lol.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2019, 07:48:21 AM
 :lol



Sorry, King moment there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2019, 08:49:58 AM
We should all be so lucky to have "king moments" from time to time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 03, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
Time to contact Merriam Webster and get this added.

Noun, verb, adjective.   The King is universal.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: MirrorMask on November 29, 2019, 02:45:53 AM
Well, fuck me.

As of today, I'm eligible to post in this thread.

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on November 29, 2019, 04:55:12 AM
Well, happy birthday then, MM. You just hit 40? If so, get busy complaining.  :getoffmylawn:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: MirrorMask on November 29, 2019, 01:08:01 PM
Thanks! I'm planning to watch some construction sites directly  ;D

(Dunno if that's a thing elsewhere in the world but at least where I live, it seems that elder people's favorite pasttime is watching construction sites, and probably judging with contempt the builders and the architects who should have known better)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2019, 01:27:05 PM
Feeding pigeons. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2019, 01:43:14 PM
Feeding pigeons. :lol

Buying day old bread and tossing it to 'em. ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: v_clortho on November 29, 2019, 04:27:11 PM
Have you protected your lawn from those darn kids?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on November 29, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Well, fuck me.

As of today, I'm eligible to post in this thread.

 :biggrin:

Happy Birthday old man!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2019, 07:08:45 PM
Have you protected your lawn from those darn kids?

This is glorious. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 29, 2019, 09:07:39 PM
Happy Birthday, and welcome to the club!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: MirrorMask on November 30, 2019, 05:04:24 AM
Well, fuck me.

As of today, I'm eligible to post in this thread.

 :biggrin:

Happy Birthday old man!  :biggrin:

Thank you all!  :tup

Have you protected your lawn from those darn kids?

Not yet, but I'm grunting every morning at kids on the subway who don't take off their school backpacks, while "back in my day" I used to take it away to make it easier for the other people in the crowded wagon.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on November 30, 2019, 07:40:01 AM
And it only gets better from there!!   

When I was younger, we:
- brought our trash cans in that day, instead of leaving them for the middle of the week;
- put stuff back where we got it in the stores, instead of just dumping it on the nearest shelf;
- pulled all the way up to the front of the gas station, instead of stopping at the immediate pump and blocking the whole lane;
- had our order all set in the line at McDonald's instead of going up to the counter and beginning the decision-making process;
- didn't - immediately after the principal said "hold your applause until the end" - start "whoop whooping!" when your kid was called at the eight grade graduation;
- didn't have an eight grade graduation, we waited until the one that matters, high school;
- held up Bic lighters for nine seconds at concerts (because that's how long it took to burn your finger on the flame) instead of cameras for 45 minutes.

I could do this all day.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 08:00:56 AM

- held up Bic lighters for nine seconds at concerts (because that's how long it took to burn your finger on the flame)

 :lol



Stood in line for hours for concert tickets
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2019, 08:06:13 AM
Overnight with a number marked on my hand by a marker.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 08:09:07 AM
Overnight with a number marked on my hand by a marker.

Sometimes, it would be better than the actual concert.

Other times, you would be subjected to some of the stupidest people you'd ever met. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: max_security on November 30, 2019, 08:09:12 AM
And it only gets better from there!!   

When I was younger, we:
- brought our trash cans in that day, instead of leaving them for the middle of the week;
- put stuff back where we got it in the stores, instead of just dumping it on the nearest shelf;
- pulled all the way up to the front of the gas station, instead of stopping at the immediate pump and blocking the whole lane;
- had our order all set in the line at McDonald's instead of going up to the counter and beginning the decision-making process;
- didn't - immediately after the principal said "hold your applause until the end" - start "whoop whooping!" when your kid was called at the eight grade graduation;
- didn't have an eight grade graduation, we waited until the one that matters, high school;
- held up Bic lighters for nine seconds at concerts (because that's how long it took to burn your finger on the flame) instead of cameras for 45 minutes.

I could do this all day.

And customer service , man I miss that.
Smoking in buildings , just cause you could.
Record stores ( and arcades )
Pizza Hut Priazzo , yeah this could go on and on,

And the construction site recognitions , don't forget the mechanical engineers ( and the outsourced ones who have never even experienced heating or air conditioning ). And the electrical engineer ( online degree through an X-Box ) who thinks that FLA stands for fun -load-amps .
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 08:16:43 AM
I remember the Ice Cream Truck driving around the neighborhood, and hearing him on the street behind us, which initiated a panic to scramble 50 cents together before he passed our house. "Hurry Mom, he's COMING!!!!"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2019, 09:02:43 AM
Overnight with a number marked on my hand by a marker.

Sometimes, it would be better than the actual concert.

Other times, you would be subjected to some of the stupidest people you'd ever met. :lol

The alcohol helped with that.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on November 30, 2019, 09:37:05 AM
Is this the correct thread for asking about aging health-related questions?  I've recently been diagnosed with a shoulder impingement and have begun PT.  I've been in substantial pain since September.  A few days ago, I nearly fell after getting my foot caught up in some electrical cords and in the process I flung my arms out reflexively to break my fall.  The pain was excruciating to the point I almost passed out.  My kid who witnessed it, said I turned white as a sheet.  It took me a full 15 minutes to be able to do anything other than try to breathe.

But the very strange thing was is that it felt like my shoulder got "reset" like a bone being reduced back into alignment.  I suddenly had much better range of motion and far less pain than I'd had in months.  I was certainly very sore, but it was more like an ache after a hard work out than the pain I had been having.  And even better, I was able to sleep again without waking every 10 minutes to try and move into a comfortable position.

I've never had shoulder issues before.  Is it possible my shoulder joint was out of the socket all this time?  My sports medicine doc didn't do any imaging when I went in, saying my symptoms were classic for impingement.  I see my PT on Tuesday so I will certainly be talking to him about it.  Currently I'm about 75% better in both pain and range of motion.  I think I'm going to stick with PT to get my strength back and to avoid re-injury at least for the next month or so.  I'm curious if any of you old farts have had similar experiences with shoulder issues?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: millahh on December 01, 2019, 07:32:50 AM
Not quite the same thing, but I recently finished a few months of PT for a shoulder issue...true to form for an old fogey, I tore my labrum getting an overloaded reuseable grocery bag out of the car with my arm at a weird angle.  No matter what, PT should be good for you...the stronger the muscles, the more they can ease the burden on the structural bits and keep everything from moving around as much, and the less likely you will be to re-injure it.

I'm glad that your shoulder is doing better after the fall, but jesus, that is kind of horrifying.  And probably not a viable treatment strategy if you hurt it again.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on December 01, 2019, 12:22:13 PM
- held up Bic lighters for nine seconds at concerts (because that's how long it took to burn your finger on the flame) instead of cameras for 45 minutes.

I do both  :lol seriously get people calling me old school when I pull out a lighter instead of my phone's flashlight. But I find fire to be so much more interesting than a flash light.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on December 03, 2019, 04:35:35 PM
Not quite the same thing, but I recently finished a few months of PT for a shoulder issue...true to form for an old fogey, I tore my labrum getting an overloaded reuseable grocery bag out of the car with my arm at a weird angle.  No matter what, PT should be good for you...the stronger the muscles, the more they can ease the burden on the structural bits and keep everything from moving around as much, and the less likely you will be to re-injure it.

I'm glad that your shoulder is doing better after the fall, but jesus, that is kind of horrifying.  And probably not a viable treatment strategy if you hurt it again.

I didn't actually fall - I shudder to think what that would've been like.  Yikes!  But in the process of almost falling, I threw my arm out and forward very quickly and kind snapped something back into place.

Saw the PT today.  He does think it was possible the tendon had allowed the bone to slip out of the socket slightly.  If it had been dislocated, no way I could've even lifted my arm.  At any rate, things are progressing finally and I can tolerate some strengthening exercises which make me feel about 90 years old.  That said, wall slides in the shower are the only way to do them.   :laugh:

Interesting you mentioned your labrum, this was another likely candidate for consideration.  If I only progress a little and then stagnate, I see an MRI in my future to rule out a torn labrum.  That's where a lot of my pain was prior to last week.  And it is much, much improved now.

I dream of one day in the future being able to do a push up or a jumping jack again....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: millahh on December 04, 2019, 07:20:05 AM
Not quite the same thing, but I recently finished a few months of PT for a shoulder issue...true to form for an old fogey, I tore my labrum getting an overloaded reuseable grocery bag out of the car with my arm at a weird angle.  No matter what, PT should be good for you...the stronger the muscles, the more they can ease the burden on the structural bits and keep everything from moving around as much, and the less likely you will be to re-injure it.

I'm glad that your shoulder is doing better after the fall, but jesus, that is kind of horrifying.  And probably not a viable treatment strategy if you hurt it again.

I didn't actually fall - I shudder to think what that would've been like.  Yikes!  But in the process of almost falling, I threw my arm out and forward very quickly and kind snapped something back into place.

Saw the PT today.  He does think it was possible the tendon had allowed the bone to slip out of the socket slightly.  If it had been dislocated, no way I could've even lifted my arm.  At any rate, things are progressing finally and I can tolerate some strengthening exercises which make me feel about 90 years old.  That said, wall slides in the shower are the only way to do them.   :laugh:

Interesting you mentioned your labrum, this was another likely candidate for consideration.  If I only progress a little and then stagnate, I see an MRI in my future to rule out a torn labrum.  That's where a lot of my pain was prior to last week.  And it is much, much improved now.

I dream of one day in the future being able to do a push up or a jumping jack again....

Here's a fun trick to tell if it's your labrum/rotator cuff: With the affected arm, place the back of your hand on your lower back, opposite your belly button.  Then try to move you hand out away from your back, keeping it at about the same level.  If you spasm, that is the hallmark of that kind of tear.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on December 04, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Sounds like a good trick.  The only problem is there is no way I can even put my arm in that position to begin with because of my shoulder problem.   :lol

Seriously though, I did try.  And I can only get my arm about butt high.  And this is a vast improvement from only a week ago!  Last week I couldn't even reach behind me at all.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on January 12, 2020, 06:34:06 PM
So I turn 40 this year.  I've never broken a bone in the last 39 years....until now.  Was at a kids birthday party and climbing in an inflatable slide with my 2-year old son. I slipped and didn't want to let him go, so I went down hard, vertically, rather than falling backward.  Dropped a few feet and my foot bent one way or the other.  Instant pain.

Break at the base of the fifth metatarsal, on my left foot.  So essentially the left side of my left foot.  Hurt like hell and had an immediate lump and swelling on the foot.  The best part?  We had to leave the party....I'm driving home, with a broken left foot, from one town over....IN A SNOWSTORM.  Had to stop at the drive-thru for food for the kids and wife, dropped them off at home, then ran to the ER.  X-Rays and a temporary cast for now. 

Still have to see a specialist this week to find out how bad the break is and what kind of recovery I'll have.  Thankfully I'm still pretty fit, though both of my feet are killing me.  It's not like the kids are old enough to leave me alone and let me rest.  More fun to come this week! 
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Post by: TAC on January 12, 2020, 06:38:47 PM


Break at the base of the fifth metatarsal, on my left foot.  So essentially the left side of my left foot.  Hurt like hell and had an immediate lump and swelling on the foot.  The best part?  We had to leave the party....I'm driving home, with a broken left foot, from one town over....IN A SNOWSTORM.  Had to stop at the drive-thru for food for the kids and wife, dropped them off at home, then ran to the ER.  X-Rays and a temporary cast for now. 

That is some serious hero ball right there.
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 12, 2020, 06:57:43 PM
Duuuuuuude!
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Post by: Orbert on January 13, 2020, 09:20:29 PM


Break at the base of the fifth metatarsal, on my left foot.  So essentially the left side of my left foot.  Hurt like hell and had an immediate lump and swelling on the foot.  The best part?  We had to leave the party....I'm driving home, with a broken left foot, from one town over....IN A SNOWSTORM.  Had to stop at the drive-thru for food for the kids and wife, dropped them off at home, then ran to the ER.  X-Rays and a temporary cast for now. 

That is some serious hero ball right there.

Absolutely.  Rock and roll!! :tup
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Post by: Grappler on January 14, 2020, 05:14:45 AM
Thanks for the compliments.   :lol  I just grit my teeth and did my best. Had to tell my wife and daughter to stop talking, so I could concentrate on driving in the snow with a throbbing foot. 

Appointment later today with the orthopedic surgeon, so I should know more.  I'm guessing a permanent cast and continuing to keep my weight off of it for a number of weeks.  I still can't really put weight on it, so I don't see how I could get a walking cast. 
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 14, 2020, 06:56:13 AM
You'd be surprised.  Mrs.jingle broke her foot in the summer, and was in a walking cast for 3 weeks, then just tried to minimize the weight on it for another 3 weeks.  Although, a friend of hers also broke her foot around the same time, and has had 3 surgeries and is still a wreck.
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Post by: Grappler on January 14, 2020, 02:30:47 PM
You'd be surprised. 

I am surprised!  I do have a walking boot, which is pretty comfortable. The ER doc had me worried with his concern, plus I always think and plan for the worst.  It's still very tender to walk on, but at least I dont need crutches all of the time.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 14, 2020, 02:54:20 PM
I should clarify... she was in a walking boot / air-cast thing-a-ma-bob.  Not a walking cast.

Hopefully you have a similar experience that mrs.jingle had - and not her friend.
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Post by: vtgrad on January 14, 2020, 03:23:57 PM
So... I turn 40 this year too.

Exploded my calve muscle last night at b-ball.  From what I've read and the sound I heard (audible pop) it's probably a medium tear.  I can walk, climb stairs, workout (kettle-bell swings, squats, basically everything but calve raises) but I can't plant my foot in any lateral direction or run.  No swelling to speak of, but I can feel a nodule on the inside portion of my calve muscle.  4-6 weeks out I say... I have an appointment with an ortho 1-23.

Hoping this injury gets me in the club this year...



Break at the base of the fifth metatarsal, on my left foot.  So essentially the left side of my left foot.  Hurt like hell and had an immediate lump and swelling on the foot.  The best part?  We had to leave the party....I'm driving home, with a broken left foot, from one town over....IN A SNOWSTORM.  Had to stop at the drive-thru for food for the kids and wife, dropped them off at home, then ran to the ER.  X-Rays and a temporary cast for now. 

That is some serious hero ball right there.

That is hero... hope the food was good.   :biggrin:
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Post by: Grappler on January 15, 2020, 05:08:22 AM
So... I turn 40 this year too.

Exploded my calve muscle last night at b-ball.  From what I've read and the sound I heard (audible pop) it's probably a medium tear.  I can walk, climb stairs, workout (kettle-bell swings, squats, basically everything but calve raises) but I can't plant my foot in any lateral direction or run.  No swelling to speak of, but I can feel a nodule on the inside portion of my calve muscle.  4-6 weeks out I say... I have an appointment with an ortho 1-23.

Hoping this injury gets me in the club this year...



Break at the base of the fifth metatarsal, on my left foot.  So essentially the left side of my left foot.  Hurt like hell and had an immediate lump and swelling on the foot.  The best part?  We had to leave the party....I'm driving home, with a broken left foot, from one town over....IN A SNOWSTORM.  Had to stop at the drive-thru for food for the kids and wife, dropped them off at home, then ran to the ER.  X-Rays and a temporary cast for now. 

That is some serious hero ball right there.

That is hero... hope the food was good.   :biggrin:

Ouch!   It doesn't necessarily take an injury to join the club, but I'm sure it helps.  I've had aches and pains for the last year or two, despite being pretty healthy otherwise. 

And the food was McDonalds.  My kids are addicted to nuggets and fries.  Neither wanted to leave the kids party and they were both exhausted.  It was the easiest way to pacify them since I was going to the ER for a period of time, leaving my wife home with two tired, crabby kids. 

I feel bad because I was very short with the drive thru employee, but my foot was killing me at the time and swelling very rapidly.  I wasn't in the mood to repeat my order or specify whether I needed apple slices or yogurt in the happy meals.
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Post by: Podaar on January 15, 2020, 05:15:03 AM
It doesn't necessarily take an injury to join the club, but I'm sure it helps.

Well, last week, while cutting unions, I sliced the index finger on my left hand.
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Post by: Podaar on June 05, 2020, 12:26:16 PM
I’m back home after having hernia surgery this morning. What could be better than narcotics posting on DTF with a swollen groin!  :biggrin:
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Post by: Orbert on June 05, 2020, 12:39:45 PM
Um... Congratulations?!

:lol
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Post by: Indiscipline on June 05, 2020, 12:43:10 PM
I’m back home after having hernia surgery this morning. What could be better than narcotics posting on DTF with a swollen groin!  :biggrin:

Why does it hurt when I poooooost ...
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 05, 2020, 01:13:30 PM
You icing the groin with the drink in your hand?
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Post by: Chino on June 05, 2020, 01:59:19 PM
I stumbled on this vid the other day and it made me feel old as shit. I used to love these guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0rSYEoBMYM
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Post by: DragonAttack on June 05, 2020, 04:18:15 PM
I’m back home after having hernia surgery this morning. What could be better than narcotics posting on DTF with a swollen groin!  :biggrin:

In a couple of days, if it was similar to mine, you will come the closest you ever have to understanding what child birth feels like....
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2020, 04:21:00 PM
I’m back home after having hernia surgery this morning. What could be better than narcotics posting on DTF with a swollen groin!  :biggrin:

In a couple of days, if it was similar to mine, you will come the closest you ever have to understanding what child birth feels like....

Yeah, I felt great the day of my surgery. But damn, once the anesthesia was completely out of my body...holy shit!!
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Post by: Podaar on June 06, 2020, 05:22:28 AM
Um... Congratulations?!

:lol

 :lol Yeah, it did seem a bit like I was bragging, didn't it.

What I should point out is that I was unable to do my pre-bed-dismount-Orbert-stretches this morning. I've got a few more pills to navigate (up to eight per day now). And I can sense a brutally painful morning-mud building up pressure. That's more thread appropriate.

Why does it hurt when I poooooost ...

My balls feel like a pair of maracas...
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Post by: The Walrus on June 06, 2020, 08:19:18 AM
Hernias suck. I gave myself one in 2014, and when they cut me open, they found another. The next couple weeks, especially the first, were agonizing. Getting in and out of bed was a nightmare and I could barely walk upstairs to my bedroom when I got home. Basically spent a week mindlessly playing video games and reading, popping hydros, passing out for a couple hours after that, and repeating the process.

I will second the 'giving birth' thing. I have never come that close to understanding a woman's pain. Surgery was on Monday, and that experience happened on Thursday. Mother of god.

Now I will show myself out since this is the old folks' home. I'm just visiting the senior citizens.  :lol :hug:
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Post by: Podaar on June 07, 2020, 05:30:41 AM
So far so good. It's been 48 hours since they cut me open and I've been able to control the pain with Ibuprofen. Haven't taken the Tylenol with Codeine since leaving the hospital...I hate the loopy feeling of that shit.

My Johnson has turned black though...which I've always wanted, but I'd always imagined it would get bigger too. No such luck.  :|
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2020, 05:44:35 AM
My Johnson has turned black though...which I've always wanted, but I'd always imagined it would get bigger too. No such luck.  :|

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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2020, 05:48:10 AM
My Johnson has turned black though...which I've always wanted, but I'd always imagined it would get bigger too. No such luck.  :|

 :lol :lol :lol

Why did it turn black? That sounds like a complication to me.
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Post by: Podaar on June 07, 2020, 06:37:11 AM
Blood pooling at the lowest point. It will eventually be absorbed.
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Post by: The Walrus on June 07, 2020, 07:18:31 AM
What the f#@$
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2020, 07:31:05 AM
When your hung like Gregg, the blood always goes south. 

Glad the pain is manageable. 
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Post by: The Walrus on June 07, 2020, 07:33:45 AM
He said lowest point and my first thought was WTF, your noodle drag on the ground like a wedding dress or something??
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Post by: Podaar on June 07, 2020, 07:58:43 AM
When your hung like Gregg, the blood always goes south. 

I wish!  :lol

No, it's just that I've been lying down or sitting quite a bit with my feet elevated while wearing loose clothing. My John-Henry-Thomas has been dangling between my thighs and since it's close to the incision point, blood has been pooling in the sorry little guy. Turned him a nice shade of purple-black.
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Post by: Podaar on June 08, 2020, 11:10:43 AM
So, I don't know if my type of hernia just wasn't as severe as you other folks, or if my Surgeon was superior to yours (maybe a combination of the two), but my recovery has been pretty easy so far! I actually had Mrs. P take me into the office earlier to get about 20 minutes of work done that I can't do from home. I was scheduled to take more ibuprofen an hour ago, but don't feel that it's necessary. I sure hope the rest of the recovery goes this well!
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Post by: DragonAttack on June 13, 2020, 08:59:48 AM

Words of advice: depending the surgery, listen to the doc, don't strain yourself, and be a baby.  Don't be a 'he-man'.  Get help lifting things that you had done by yourself in the past.  Some people are good to go after two weeks.  It was three months or more for me.   The following year, I was hitting the golf ball just as far as before the surgery, but I made sure everything was 'right' before 'going down to the putting green and popping them in their holes'. (Jethro Tull 'Mother Goose').
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Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2020, 03:19:22 PM
When your hung like Gregg, the blood always goes south. 

I wish!  :lol

No, it's just that I've been lying down or sitting quite a bit with my feet elevated while wearing loose clothing. My John-Henry-Thomas has been dangling between my thighs and since it's close to the incision point, blood has been pooling in the sorry little guy. Turned him a nice shade of purple-black.

Holy shit dude!
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Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2020, 03:31:37 PM
Not sure if it has anything to do with turning 36 not long ago but been going through a whole lot of emotions lately.  When COVID happened it was hard as being a Supervisor for 12 years standing staff down and closing the doors.  Opening the business again 3 days ago, I have no fucking idea why I've been doing this job for so long.  The responsibility, effort, time and everything else that goes with it simply isn't worth the money anymore.  A couple of you know I'm just a broken record here and have mentioned this sort of shit before.  But while shut down, actually going in normal hours, working and actually being able to clock off, not worry about work, staff, if people will turn up, managing people, dealing with the public etc. has been amazing for me.  It's now 10 times more difficult going back.

You question everything, why you do what you do, ask yourself the meaning of life, all that sort of shit.  Why do you get up everyday and put yourself through all this.  Just to be a slave and make a few bucks.  People don't appreciate your efforts, staff don't give a fuck, why fucking bother?

Anyway the point is, when you hit certain ages I guess you look at what's left and just question more and more what you are doing and what you should be doing.  One day I'll grow the balls to take a leap of faith.  But the world isn't getting any easier that you have a selection of jobs to choose from.

Sorry for the random off topic post.  I had a difficult day personally yesterday and needed to post that somewhere.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 15, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
I wrestle with that as well but the pay is good.

Also, 


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Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2020, 04:00:09 PM
Al Bundy is one of my heroes.
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Post by: TAC on June 15, 2020, 04:22:15 PM
One of my best friends in 9th grade, his father was Red Foreman. Looked like him, sounded like him. I totally get it.




Not sure if it has anything to do with turning 36 not long ago but been going through a whole lot of emotions lately. 

Kade, hopefully this will help, but I have turned 30, I've turned 40, and then I turned 50.

But the one birthday I had the most emotions with was my 36th birthday. No lie. For some reason, I just felt that I had crossed some sort of threshold. It was at that point I no longer considered myself young. The jump from early to mid 30's,to mid to late 30's felt like a giant chasm.
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2020, 05:36:19 AM
Fuck Tim......You hit the nail on the head my friend.  The number was something I have never cared about.  Even 35 I was like 'meh.'  This is different, and a very weird feeling.

That was actually scary to read mate.  Good to feel I'm not alone.
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Post by: TAC on June 16, 2020, 05:43:26 AM
You're never alone, brother.


Yeah, it was weird. 36 seems so arbitrary, but I literally woke up that day and immediately felt deflated a bit.
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2020, 05:53:23 AM
 :heart

I just look now that I can give myself 4 years to step out and do something new and different.  If I'm posting this shit when I'm 40, then God help me.  :lol  scary thing is, I can totally see myself at this same point at that age.
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Post by: Podaar on June 16, 2020, 05:54:31 AM
Yeah, 36 was a weird number for me too.

I woke up that day, spent the morning mussing about my life. Where I was. Where I'd been. Where I was going. I went in to work, sat in my bosses office, and proceeded to tell him that I'd wasted the best years of my life to make him rich and it was high time I went out to find my own fortune. I gave him one month to find a replacement for me.

I scared the hell out of my second wife.  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 16, 2020, 05:59:25 AM
hhmmm... I honestly don't remember my 36th being terribly impactful - trying to remember what was going on in my life in 2007, and nothing is really jumping out at me (personally or professionally).  I'm actually trying to think if any birthday has been any kind of epiphany for me.  I mean, at 48 right now, I'm well aware there are fewer days ahead than there are behind.  But I can't recall every having a specific moment like you guys are referring to.

:dunno:
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2020, 06:04:51 AM
Yeah, 36 was a weird number for me too.

I woke up that day, spent the morning mussing about my life. Where I was. Where I'd been. Where I was going. I went in to work, sat in my bosses office, and proceeded to tell him that I'd wasted the best years of my life to make him rich and it was high time I went out to find my own fortune. I gave him one month to find a replacement for me.

I scared the hell out of my second wife.  :lol

Wow Gregg, that's an amazing story.  Wish I had the nuts.  Was that the right decision in the end?

Amazing as that's what I feel.  Wasted so much time for nothing and helping people and a company that doesn't give a fucking shit.
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Post by: Podaar on June 16, 2020, 06:10:40 AM
I guess I shouldn't leave my story hanging there. Ten days later, my boss took me to dinner and laid out a five year plan for me to buy him out and become the sole owner of our business. The plan included an immediate, generous, commission on sales and expanded quarterly profit percentage to go into my retirement account.

It never quite worked out that way, but it did pave the way for a much more comfortable income/retirement plan. Twenty-two years later I'm still in the same industry.  :lol

edit:

Wow Gregg, that's an amazing story.  Wish I had the nuts.  Was that the right decision in the end?

Hard to tell if it was the right decision. I've made the best of it, but so many factors outside of my control have buffeted my career path around. What was probably a good thing about it is that I began taking responsibility for my prosperity. I'd grown up thinking that if you work hard, are loyal and conscientious, good things will come to you. It was proper that I learned that isn't necessarily true.
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2020, 06:16:40 AM
I guess I shouldn't leave my story hanging there. Ten days later, my boss took me to dinner and laid out a five year plan for me to buy him out and become the sole owner of our business. The plan included an immediate, generous, commission on sales and expanded quarterly profit percentage to go into my retirement account.

It never quite worked out that way, but it did pave the way for a much more comfortable income/retirement plan. Twenty-two years later I'm still in the same industry.  :lol

edit:

Wow Gregg, that's an amazing story.  Wish I had the nuts.  Was that the right decision in the end?

Hard to tell if it was the right decision. I've made the best of it, but so many factors outside of my control have buffeted my career path around. What was probably a good thing about it is that I began taking responsibility for my prosperity. I'd grown up thinking that if you work hard, are loyal and conscientious, good things will come to you. It was proper that I learned that isn't necessarily true.

In a way that backs up my feelings on staying in the same place for so long.  Glad it worked out.  I need to ask for a pay rise I think.  But how the organisation works it isn't that simple.
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Post by: Podaar on June 16, 2020, 06:19:55 AM
Yeah, my path isn't yours, for sure, Kade. It was the attitude adjustment that my 36 crisis gave me that was the only real benefit.

Now, let's talk again when you turn 55 and wonder where all years have gone.  :lol
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Post by: TAC on June 16, 2020, 06:22:55 AM
This month is my 30th anniversary at my work.

At 36, I had a good job, and as I've mentioned before, when my family needed some flexibility, they allowed me to step down. Funny thing is, I may make more this year than any previous year.




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Post by: King Postwhore on June 16, 2020, 07:10:50 AM
I go through stretches of late where I wish I could just shut down.  Not being able to forget about work for a few days wears you down.
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Post by: lordxizor on June 16, 2020, 07:14:01 AM
I'll be 39 in a few weeks, so I figure I'm old enough to post in here. I agree that 36, going from low-30s to upper-30s was kind of a big mental hurdle. There's no pretending that you're still a young adult at that point. You are a full on adult with no more excuses for not being responsible and having at least some success in life.

I'll admit I've been going through a bit of a mid-life crisis of sorts lately. It's like I suddenly realized how empty and boring my life was (pretty typical American suburban lifestyle). I was in a really rough place from December to February, feeling more and more that this wasn't a life worth living. In an effort to spice things up with my wife, we ended up going through this bizarre hot and cold stretch where there was tons of sex and fun date nights, but also tons of conflict and by far the worst fighting we've ever had. I still loved her, but was really resentful over some ways I felt she let me down over the years. A growing part of me just wanted to walk away from everything. But I knew I never would, which was almost worse, like I didn't even have the courage to take the easy way out and bail.

My wife knew something was going on with me, and I told her a bit, but I haven't told her the extent of how distressed I was. I certainly haven't mentioned that I was ready to leave once, but simply had nowhere obvious to go (I didn't want to admit to family or friends that I was struggling), so I just went home. I started working with a life coach kind of guy in January which helped a little bit at first. At least it was nice to have someone to be vulnerable with. I was seeing slow improvement until my wife ended up pregnant. That was sort of the kick in the face that I needed to snap out of my self pity. That was in February and it was almost an instant 50% improvement.

My coach plugged me into a book called Positive Intelligence a couple months ago, which basically is about the neuroscience of how to rewire your brain to be more empathetic and curious about life instead of being hijacked by some negative internal brain influences that we all have. I'm now in the middle of an intense 6 week training on this program and it's made a radical difference in just two weeks. I'm not out of the woods yet. It takes concerted effort to not fall back into pits where my internal thoughts took me a few months ago, but it's becoming easier and easier. I'm feeling more optimistic and hopeful about life than I have in a long time.

That got longer than I thought it would. Curious is any of you guys have had any similar mid-life issues and what you've done to overcome them... or maybe you're still in them.

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Post by: Indiscipline on June 16, 2020, 08:27:38 AM
Shit got definitely real for me between 32 and 36: discovered I can't have children (good news for the world though), first marriage failed (totally my fault), spent a couple of years living dangerously pretending I was a teenager once again, a pretty rushed second marriage (still going strong, despite me being an ass), my father going drumming with Bonzo just a couple of hours after phoning me best wishes for my 35th birthday, finding myself in the difficult position of keeping a rather bizarre family together after the shock. I felt deeply inadequate every step of the way.

What really helped me to regroup (and daresay mature - if such a term could ever apply to me) was stopping considering jobs and relationships as stepping stones on the way to what I figured I would become. I suddenly opened my eyes and acknowledged I was what I was; there wasn't a goal line in the future, and could very well not be a future at all if I didn't start to appreciate the present and my present self. Perspective shifted cosequentially, and I (almost unwillingly) started to change the culture to my liking on the workplace instead of worrying about what did I get, and to treasure whomever was around me instead of looking out for someone "better".



 

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Post by: TAC on June 16, 2020, 08:54:02 AM
What really helped me to regroup (and daresay mature - if such a term could ever apply to me) was stopping considering jobs and relationships as stepping stones on the way to what I figured I would become. I suddenly opened my eyes and acknowledged I was what I was; there wasn't a goal line in the future, and could very well not be a future at all if I didn't start to appreciate the present and my present self. Perspective shifted cosequentially, and I (almost unwillingly) started to change the culture to my liking on the workplace instead of worrying about what did I get, and to treasure whomever was around me instead of looking out for someone "better".


Yeah, those are words to live by for sure.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on June 16, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
Perspective is huge, yeah. One of the core things about this Positive Intelligence thing I'm doing is that there are negative parts of your mind that are trying to tell you that you can't be happy given your current circumstances and that you'll only be happy when <fill in the blank> happens or changes. Trying to ignore those voices and allowing yourself to be happy in your current circumstances can be very difficult.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 16, 2020, 09:23:31 AM
A friend of mine from high school sent me something in an email that finally provided clarity.  I remember reading it at work, and where I was working at the time, so this would have been the late 90's or early 00's.

It basically said that when you're young, you think that "all you have to do" is get a good job, find your wife/husband/soulmate/whatever, find a nice place to live, and you can live happily ever after.

So you work to get through college, or maybe head into the workforce right away.  You work, you keep thinking "right now I'm only <something> but once I get to <manager/director/VP> things will really be good."

Your first car may not be great, but it's fine, and someday you'll have a <nicer car> and things will really be good.

You start a family, and yeah having kids is rough, but you think once they're older, things will be easier, things will be good.

It was all stuff like that.  If you just keep at it, you'll get to the next plateau, and things will be good.  Then at some point you look around and realize you've been working your ass off your entire life so far, and things may not be perfect right now, but half your life is now behind you and you're still waiting for things to be "good".  You're still trying to get to the next level, because then things will be good.

Look at what you have now.  Look at who you have around you right now.  Look at the life you're living right now.  Look at the car you drive, the house you live in.  You're here!  You've arrived.  This is your life.  Stop waiting for things to be "better" and enjoy what you have right now, because right now will only be here once.  Say those things to your kids that you've always meant to tell them.  Say those things to your wife/husband/soulmate/whatever that you've always meant to tell them.  Do that thing you always wanted to do.  This is your chance.  This is the life you've built, the life you've earned, and you don't get another shot at it.

Basically "stop and smell the roses".  I never really understood that expression until that moment.  It really just means to take a second to enjoy what you have now, instead of constantly looking towards the next thing and thinking it will be better.  Don't stop trying to improve things, but take the time to enjoy things now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on June 16, 2020, 09:29:38 AM
Damn I turn 36 in a few months.... not looking forward to it. 

But some nice perspectives here
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 16, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
Words to live by, Orbert! Thank you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 16, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
I'll be 39 in a few weeks, so I figure I'm old enough to post in here. I agree that 36, going from low-30s to upper-30s was kind of a big mental hurdle. There's no pretending that you're still a young adult at that point. You are a full on adult with no more excuses for not being responsible and having at least some success in life.

I'll admit I've been going through a bit of a mid-life crisis of sorts lately. It's like I suddenly realized how empty and boring my life was (pretty typical American suburban lifestyle). I was in a really rough place from December to February, feeling more and more that this wasn't a life worth living. In an effort to spice things up with my wife, we ended up going through this bizarre hot and cold stretch where there was tons of sex and fun date nights, but also tons of conflict and by far the worst fighting we've ever had. I still loved her, but was really resentful over some ways I felt she let me down over the years. A growing part of me just wanted to walk away from everything. But I knew I never would, which was almost worse, like I didn't even have the courage to take the easy way out and bail.

My wife knew something was going on with me, and I told her a bit, but I haven't told her the extent of how distressed I was. I certainly haven't mentioned that I was ready to leave once, but simply had nowhere obvious to go (I didn't want to admit to family or friends that I was struggling), so I just went home. I started working with a life coach kind of guy in January which helped a little bit at first. At least it was nice to have someone to be vulnerable with. I was seeing slow improvement until my wife ended up pregnant. That was sort of the kick in the face that I needed to snap out of my self pity. That was in February and it was almost an instant 50% improvement.

My coach plugged me into a book called Positive Intelligence a couple months ago, which basically is about the neuroscience of how to rewire your brain to be more empathetic and curious about life instead of being hijacked by some negative internal brain influences that we all have. I'm now in the middle of an intense 6 week training on this program and it's made a radical difference in just two weeks. I'm not out of the woods yet. It takes concerted effort to not fall back into pits where my internal thoughts took me a few months ago, but it's becoming easier and easier. I'm feeling more optimistic and hopeful about life than I have in a long time.

That got longer than I thought it would. Curious is any of you guys have had any similar mid-life issues and what you've done to overcome them... or maybe you're still in them.


I'll say 'nice post' meaning I love the honesty. It's tough to admit when your going through stuff because for whatever reason the world kind of looks down on it.....judging you like 'cmon, you don't have this figured out yet?' I've been through a few stages where I'll start focusing on something negative and just let it eat me up. I'll get real selfish and just start thinking to myself how vibrant green the other grass looks. The life my wife an I are living (pre covid) is pretty busy. Our kiddos are right in the wheelhouse of being busy with sports and activities so they take up a ton of our time. I'm the type of parent who will involve myself to the max in their lives to help guide and teach so there never really seems like there's a break. I'm not a helicopter parent by any means but I volunteer to be the coach of the team(s), run the youth camps, host the camp outs....etc etc because yes I enjoy it....but also, I just want it to be available.

  You throw in work on top of the personal life things and yeah....it can get to be a lot for anyone/everyone. There are periods of my marriage where my wife and I have just been roommates with how much running around we do. When communication breaks down it's easy to start resenting or getting angry with her....but, it's usually over something that is easily overcome once we talk about it. 99% of our conflicts in our 15 year marriage has been because we just stopped talking for a few days....usually because we were busy with 'life'. I can honestly say that I lucked out with my wife because compared to the wives of friends and family members I know....she is very easy to live and do life with.

  I found to 'snap' out of any little selfish patched I get in is to really sit back and do what Orbert just posted about.....take inventory of what 'I' have in my life. I have a loving, wonderful wife who's an amazing mother.....three boys who have turned out to be (thanks to their mother) really fun, intelligent....awesome individuals.....I'm not rich by any means but we've been able to enjoy some luxuries in our life thus far that maybe some haven't yet....we've created a beautiful home and for the most part all of us are in good health. When I was single, living alone what I 'have' right now is everything I would cry out to God for to 'give' me. So, when I find myself mumbling under my breath that I'd rather be alone in an apartment somewhere smoking glow in the dark weed all day......I have to remind myself that I had that life once.....and longed for the days I'd have what I have now.



Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on June 16, 2020, 09:54:48 AM
I was definitely falling into the trap that Orbert describes without really realizing it. It was like I suddenly noticed 10 years worth of that mindset all at once back in December and fell into this pit of despair that I let so long go by without really trying to enjoy the moment. Which isn't entirely true... I enjoyed plenty of it, but I was always looking forward to this mythical future when the kids would be better behaved and need less supervision, and my wife would want me sexually again like she did when we were 25, and I would reach financial independence so I could work because I want to not because I have to, and we'd be able to travel more, etc. Part of what I've learned is that I'm far too passive about life. I need to try to take charge of life a little more, which is what I was trying to do with my wife which lead to so much conflict and fighting, so I guess I'll focus more on taking control of my career and my time rather than my relationship as much.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on June 16, 2020, 10:06:30 AM
I'll be 39 in a few weeks, so I figure I'm old enough to post in here. I agree that 36, going from low-30s to upper-30s was kind of a big mental hurdle. There's no pretending that you're still a young adult at that point. You are a full on adult with no more excuses for not being responsible and having at least some success in life.

I'll admit I've been going through a bit of a mid-life crisis of sorts lately. It's like I suddenly realized how empty and boring my life was (pretty typical American suburban lifestyle). I was in a really rough place from December to February, feeling more and more that this wasn't a life worth living. In an effort to spice things up with my wife, we ended up going through this bizarre hot and cold stretch where there was tons of sex and fun date nights, but also tons of conflict and by far the worst fighting we've ever had. I still loved her, but was really resentful over some ways I felt she let me down over the years. A growing part of me just wanted to walk away from everything. But I knew I never would, which was almost worse, like I didn't even have the courage to take the easy way out and bail.

My wife knew something was going on with me, and I told her a bit, but I haven't told her the extent of how distressed I was. I certainly haven't mentioned that I was ready to leave once, but simply had nowhere obvious to go (I didn't want to admit to family or friends that I was struggling), so I just went home. I started working with a life coach kind of guy in January which helped a little bit at first. At least it was nice to have someone to be vulnerable with. I was seeing slow improvement until my wife ended up pregnant. That was sort of the kick in the face that I needed to snap out of my self pity. That was in February and it was almost an instant 50% improvement.

My coach plugged me into a book called Positive Intelligence a couple months ago, which basically is about the neuroscience of how to rewire your brain to be more empathetic and curious about life instead of being hijacked by some negative internal brain influences that we all have. I'm now in the middle of an intense 6 week training on this program and it's made a radical difference in just two weeks. I'm not out of the woods yet. It takes concerted effort to not fall back into pits where my internal thoughts took me a few months ago, but it's becoming easier and easier. I'm feeling more optimistic and hopeful about life than I have in a long time.

That got longer than I thought it would. Curious is any of you guys have had any similar mid-life issues and what you've done to overcome them... or maybe you're still in them.


I'll say 'nice post' meaning I love the honesty. It's tough to admit when your going through stuff because for whatever reason the world kind of looks down on it.....judging you like 'cmon, you don't have this figured out yet?' I've been through a few stages where I'll start focusing on something negative and just let it eat me up. I'll get real selfish and just start thinking to myself how vibrant green the other grass looks. The life my wife an I are living (pre covid) is pretty busy. Our kiddos are right in the wheelhouse of being busy with sports and activities so they take up a ton of our time. I'm the type of parent who will involve myself to the max in their lives to help guide and teach so there never really seems like there's a break. I'm not a helicopter parent by any means but I volunteer to be the coach of the team(s), run the youth camps, host the camp outs....etc etc because yes I enjoy it....but also, I just want it to be available.

  You throw in work on top of the personal life things and yeah....it can get to be a lot for anyone/everyone. There are periods of my marriage where my wife and I have just been roommates with how much running around we do. When communication breaks down it's easy to start resenting or getting angry with her....but, it's usually over something that is easily overcome once we talk about it. 99% of our conflicts in our 15 year marriage has been because we just stopped talking for a few days....usually because we were busy with 'life'. I can honestly say that I lucked out with my wife because compared to the wives of friends and family members I know....she is very easy to live and do life with.

  I found to 'snap' out of any little selfish patched I get in is to really sit back and do what Orbert just posted about.....take inventory of what 'I' have in my life. I have a loving, wonderful wife who's an amazing mother.....three boys who have turned out to be (thanks to their mother) really fun, intelligent....awesome individuals.....I'm not rich by any means but we've been able to enjoy some luxuries in our life thus far that maybe some haven't yet....we've created a beautiful home and for the most part all of us are in good health. When I was single, living alone what I 'have' right now is everything I would cry out to God for to 'give' me. So, when I find myself mumbling under my breath that I'd rather be alone in an apartment somewhere smoking glow in the dark weed all day......I have to remind myself that I had that life once.....and longed for the days I'd have what I have now.




Thanks for sharing. I completely agree with you that I have exactly the life I longed for when I was single, or even when my wife and I were first together. Wife, kids, good job, house in the suburbs... what more could you want?

There's nothing particularly wrong about any of those things. I think for me it ultimately boils down to wanting to feel more in control of my life and less that I'm just along for the ride. I want to feel the desire and passion in my marriage that we felt before kids came along (this one is going to be trickier since I can't make my wife feel a certain way or want to do certain things, but I do know I need to appreciate her more for who she is now instead of comparing her with the 25 year old version of herself, which is hard because she was fucking amazing when we first got together). I don't want to live a conventional life anymore. That doesn't necessarily have to mean radical outward change, mostly just changing my mindset, but there are some outward things I want to do and have been doing more for the last couple years.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 16, 2020, 01:14:31 PM
I want to feel the desire and passion in my marriage that we felt before kids came along

Well....this will be a blanket statement.....certainly each marriage and situation is different......but as you know, everything changes when you add kids into the picture. I would say especially for women. I'm sure that growing a human in your body changes every little nuance and then once those little people pop out....(most) women undertake this maternal instinct and those little people are simply top priority for them. Husbands (in general) take a back seat so to speak.

That's not to say you can't still cultivate the marriage or relationship to have the same passion and what not that was there prior to kids......it's only to say that there is much more effort that has to go in to it due to having kids. It's very easy for a relationship to grow stale when the kid variable gets thrown in there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 16, 2020, 01:43:42 PM
And energy honestly.   You get tired faster with age and the kids have batteries that never run out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on June 16, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
Oh sure. I get why things have slowed down for her. I just don't like it! We had things going pretty hot there for a while before she accidentally ended up getting pregnant. But I know she always viewed that as being a temporary "let's spice things up for a few months" kind of thing as opposed to me, who was only getting started in pushing for what I want, which was part of the conflict that came on during the same time.

I'd settle for feeling like she put in a little bit of effort into it every now and then just to please me. God knows I do tons of things just to please her in non-sexual ways (I've practically begged her to tell me what would please her sexually, but she either won't say or legitimately doesn't have anything, and this lead to another series of fights). I honestly think she thinks that every time she's willing to have sex at all she's doing it just to please me since her interest is pretty low these days. Which is sort of fair I guess, but she always enjoys it as much as I do in the end, even if it takes her a couple more minutes to get into it in the beginning.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2020, 04:38:32 PM
Wow, I didn't expect my post to open up such an honest discussion with so many valid points.  If I have time I'll address every post one by one but thanks to everyone and their thoughts and discussions.  A lot of the words did help.  The whole perspective thing I've embraced at times in the past, but it's so easy to get into that rut again just thinking what could have been or the whole 'where am I going,' mentality.  It's so refreshing to get other viewpoints and that's why I love this place so much and all of you!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 07, 2020, 07:28:07 PM
They say music is timeless, but there is some music that truly timestamps periods of my life even though I've continued to listen to it throughout.

One of those bands for me is Accept, as I've listened to 80's Accept all day. And the overriding thought I've had directed me to this thread only to say that....


...I wish I was a fucking kid again. I really do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 07, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
There are certain songs that trigger a specific moment in my life. This is throughout my life. Some give me joy, some bring me to tears.

Music has always been,  and will always be a calendar of my life.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 07, 2020, 07:46:27 PM
Amen, brother.

It's funny the stuff that I've forgotten in my life, but I could tell you off the top of my head that I saw Van Halen on 3/18/84, or Iron Maiden on 6/2/85, UFO on 6/14/86, or Iron Maiden/Dream Theater on 6/8/92.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 07, 2020, 07:49:48 PM
But I can't remember when my wife asks me to take out the garbage.   Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on August 07, 2020, 08:51:45 PM
Kind of a joke between the wife and I about ‘some timers’.  My short term memory is getting worse each year and I make mistakes at work that I normally do not make.  Not so much a joke anymore.

I do remember to take out the garbage.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 07, 2020, 08:54:28 PM
How old are you, Mike?

"I forgot" is not an answer. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on August 08, 2020, 06:36:37 AM
How old are you, Mike?

"I forgot" is not an answer. :lol

I will be 63 on August 12th

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 08, 2020, 06:50:33 AM
Oh man, Lisa and I laugh at each other about the short term stuff. We both say, "What a couple we will be in 20 years."

It's scary.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2020, 06:53:09 AM
Mrs.jingle doesn’t get how I can remember Seinfeld dialogue verbatim, but then forget something she told me the day before. .
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2020, 07:01:05 AM
How old are you, Mike?

"I forgot" is not an answer. :lol

I will be 63 on August 12th

Oh wow!

Well in that case, "I forgot" might be appropriate. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 08, 2020, 07:05:54 AM
Mrs.jingle doesn’t get how I can remember Seinfeld dialogue verbatim, but then forget something she told me the day before. .

Heard this song and dance as well.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Snow Dog on August 08, 2020, 12:19:12 PM
Reading the last couple of pages has given me a bit to think about, really. I never really have ventured into this thread much, but it popped up again to the top with new posts, so I figured what the hell.

I turned 40 in January, and while I’m not bothered by getting older, this year has been a bit more reflective than past ones. Really, I’ve been pretty fortunate n that age hasn’t hit me too hard yet. I’m still able to do all I want to do, and my running speed is still actually improving. For a while, though, I’ve noticed that my recovery time is definitely starting to slow up a bit, and it’s especially starting to hit this year. If I hit a run balls to the wall for even just a few miles, I’m wiped out and worthless for a week. Injury recovery also isn’t what it used to be, either. Marathon training last year had me fighting some pretty nagging Achilles tendinitis for months up until the actual race  Little things like that. Like I said, I’m still quite able bodied and feel fortunate to be that way, but I’m starting to notice stuff I didn’t have to worry about before.

I used to say all the time, “You’re only as old as you feel,” me of those naive things you say when you feel invincible. The “I’m always going to feel young and energetic” attitude. And it’s true in a sense, but at some point, time is going to catch up to everyone. Including me. It could be at 50. Could be at 55 or 60. Or even 41. Who knows? But the past couple of pages got me to thinking, when am I going to be Jack Nicholson walking out of that doctor’s office and asking out of nowhere, “What if this is as good as it gets?” When does that happen in my life, where I’m as good as I’m going to be physically? Mentally? Spiritually and emotionally? It’s a thought that gave me pause.

A few posts previous mentioned being content with where you are, instead of where you want to be. And while growth and improvement is certainly something I always strive for, there’s going to be a ceiling somewhere in certain aspects. I’ve always been one who strives, to the point of perfectionism especially in my 20s from which I’m gradually learning to tone it down. But learning to watch things eventually decline and accept it as a part of life is going to be a process. All I know is that I don’t want to be like my dad who always bitched about how he used to be able to this or could do that better than now. There’s something to aging gracefully that’s admirable to me, and while it’ll be a process, that will probably be what I eventually strive for. Even when the body is failing, the soul can still grow.

It’s also that aging gracefully that I want to exemplify for my son. I joined the parent game late, as my first (and only so far) was born when I was 39 last year (ancient in the terms of a Utahn, where I grew up). We plan on a second, but hot damn, the thought of that is exhausting at times. Whoever said that kids have endless batteries was not kidding, and I sometimes wonder how much more energy I’d have if I’d started earlier. And how long my batteries will last as we all get older. Again, not a complaint as I know I’m pretty well as is, but just a muse about the realities of life.

I guess all I can do is make the best of whatever situations arise, and enjoy all the little moments *in* the moment, recognizing them for what they are. And dammit, just be nice to people. ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2020, 09:13:01 PM
Welcome to the club.  Anxiously await your defining story of “yup, my body just reminded me I’m 40”. And damn... I couldn’t imagine having a toddler at that age. I’m 48, and the jingle.kids turn 20 next week. I’m so thankful I can focus the energy I do have into myself and Mrs.jingle, and am not “raising” children. The thought of having a 9 year old to raise right now gives me chills. Kudos to you... you’re a better man than I!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on September 07, 2020, 07:41:02 PM
When we bought our house 11 years ago, there were 13 trees in my backyard.  We've had a number of them removed - there was a big cluster of 4-5 in the center of the yard that we reduced to two trees.  We took out one behind the shed.  That opened up the backyard to get more sunlight - the farthest part of the yard had no sun, because of our tree canopy combined with the neighbor's.  Therefore, no grass would grow back there.

The sides of the yard were lined with 5 and 4 pine trees, spaced about 6-10 feet apart each.  There was no privacy fence, just a split-rail, so they were intended for privacy.  Over time, they started growing into each other, or growing underneath the neighbor's trees.  They were too close together and the trees weren't doing well at all, with lots of dead limbs because they were too close together.  We also put in a privacy fence, so we don't need that many trees lining the yard.   This summer, we had 5 of the 9 trees removed, leaving two on each side.  I didn't have the stumps removed, opting to take them out myself.

Naturally, the chainsaw that I inherited is impossibly complicated to get started, so I started whacking the stumps with an ax and splitting maul yesterday.  Today, I took my sawzall to two of the stumps, scoring them enough to chip away with the ax and then using the saw blade to cut chunks out of the stumps and get them below grade.  Thankfully, the stumps were only 3-4 inches above grade, so I didn't have too much to cut away.

My arms are now dead.  I probably swung the ax 200 times today and spent a good 90 minutes pushing and pulling on the sawzall.  I haven't used those muscles in ages and it shows.  I can't raise my right arm up over my head.  I've been completely exhausted since I finished working on the second stump.

I'm definitely feeling older today and I have a bad feeling I'll be really sore tomorrow.  And I still have 3 stumps to go....I'll be borrowing a better chainsaw to make those cuts a lot quicker and save some wear and tear on my arms.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 07, 2020, 08:20:11 PM
Man, that amount of work would leave anyone sore - even a youngling.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 07, 2020, 08:46:07 PM
Yeah, the arms and shoulders and blades will be sore for days.

My Achilles on my right foot is sore and sore to the touch. I ice it. Nothing is helping. it's hurting me walking which I need to do around the neighborhood. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on September 08, 2020, 06:53:42 AM
Compression socks!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2020, 08:14:55 PM
The Celtics traded Enes Kanter today..


So tonight, my son says to me.."Did you read any of the Enes Kanter's thank you messages to the Celtics?"
To which I replied..." I hadn't, what'd he say?"

Then my son says of all things... "You can look it up on Twitter."

I was like, "I can do WUT??"


He started laughing. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 20, 2020, 08:22:30 PM
Tell your sons dude older than you agrees and pisedhis pants laughing because it's true. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2020, 08:25:09 PM
After I said, "I can do WUT?", he actually muttered "Oh yeah". :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 20, 2020, 08:28:55 PM
It's hilarious to know your children know more about technology than their dad. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2020, 08:33:16 PM
It's hilarious to know your children know more about technology than their dad. Lol

My youngest, he's 17 (18 in Jan) is totally on technology. You ask him a question, and he whips out his phone and has the answer in like 10 seconds. Meanwhile, I'm still unbuckling my phone from my old man belt clip. :lol

Glad this isn't the wild west, I'd be dead!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 20, 2020, 08:41:25 PM
It is scary. I see my dad who has no clue with smartphones  though  it exactly what he needs.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 21, 2020, 01:55:10 AM
It's hilarious to know your children know more about technology than their dad. Lol

That will happen to all of us, and sooner than we think.

My eldest daughter is twelve, right now I can tell her how things work, but probaly not for much longer.  :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2020, 05:38:42 AM
It's hilarious to know your children know more about technology than their dad. Lol

That will happen to all of us, and sooner than we think

Truth
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on November 21, 2020, 05:51:00 AM
It is scary. I see my dad who has no clue with smartphones  though  it exactly what he needs.

This is my Mom.

My brother and I bought her a phone, we had her pick it out. It was literally a cellular phone with big buttons and a tiny little screen. I don't think it would even run any apps. Test messaging, probably, I don't recall...it's been eight years since we got it for her. She's never called me from that number. I've tried calling her on it a few dozen times and it instantly goes to voicemail...that's never been setup. If I turn around and call her on her landline (the exact same number we had when I was a kid) she'll pick up.

I've asked her, "Mom, why don't you keep you cellphone with you and switched on?" She says she wouldn't want to waste the charge on the battery.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2020, 06:18:22 AM
It is scary. I see my dad who has no clue with smartphones  though  it exactly what he needs.

This is my Mom.

My brother and I bought her a phone, we had her pick it out. It was literally a cellular phone with big buttons and a tiny little screen. I don't think it would even run any apps. Test messaging, probably, I don't recall...it's been eight years since we got it for her. She's never called me from that number. I've tried calling her on it a few dozen times and it instantly goes to voicemail...that's never been setup. If I turn around and call her on her landline (the exact same number we had when I was a kid) she'll pick up.

I've asked her, "Mom, why don't you keep you cellphone with you and switched on?" She says she wouldn't want to waste the charge on the battery.  :lol

This was me with jingle.mom back in the late 90s.  It was one of those bulky Motorola flip phones that you'd extend the antenna for.  For about 15 years, all she would ever do is buy a $100 yearly prepaid-minutes, but never turn it on - I'm not sure anyone (including her) even knew the phone number.  Finally, we upgraded her to an iPhone about 5 years ago, and she gradually adopted to the technology to the point now she can/will text, use facetime and a few other things.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on November 21, 2020, 09:38:42 AM
Kids now more about current shit, so the real trick is to make sure they understand that they may know more about smartphone tricks and Instagram or whatever the latest cool shit is, but they still don't understand how the world works as well as someone with 30 more years of life experience.

It's too easy for kids to think "my parents are stupid; they don't know anything about <...> or <...>".  Remind them once in a while how completely meaningless that shit is.  Remember that time I told you to check with your teacher, make sure, and it turned out very bad because they never knew?  Remember that time I told you that you can't just assume <...> and that you should call ahead of time, and you wasted three days waiting for <...>?  They want to think they're smarter than you.  They're growing up and might even be smarter than you someday.  But they ain't there yet, and intellect is not wisdom, and never will be.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 01:55:04 PM
So I wasn't sure where to pout this but here is our family's Christmas card for this year. We ordered 40 of them!
You should never ask a Fogey to design a Christmas card using an online template...


(https://i.imgur.com/6YyOsrt.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Evermind on December 10, 2020, 01:59:12 PM
I don't belong in this thread and no offense Tim, but this looks like utter shit to me. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 02:02:12 PM
My wife picked out the template. The scan into the computer deadened the color a bit. Besides the obvious, she didn't like the fact that the pictures were so small.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2020, 02:09:51 PM
Or you could just glue a couple of photos to an actual card like mrs.jingle.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50703063428_1a7b41ab24_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50703063488_5081e086e3_c.jpg)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2020, 02:23:32 PM
So I wasn't sure where to pout this but here is our family's Christmas card for this year. We ordered 40 of them!
You should never ask a Fogey to design a Christmas card using an online template...


(https://i.imgur.com/6YyOsrt.jpg)

I don't mind it.  The pics are as you said a bit small but good job mate.


Or you could just glue a couple of photos to an actual card like mrs.jingle.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50703063428_1a7b41ab24_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50703063488_5081e086e3_c.jpg)

 :lol your cat looks less than impressed having to wear that silly hat.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
Kade, I think you missed the obvious.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2020, 02:27:33 PM
The Samporenas hey?  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 10, 2020, 02:29:44 PM
Last card we made a decade ago.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2m0h1KH/FB-IMG-1607384736273.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on December 10, 2020, 02:42:33 PM
TAC, I don't think it's bad looking but I could totally see when it prints, those pics will all look too small. 

and if that's not your last name... where tf did that come from?  :lol

And Jingle, I get the feeling no one has the desire to do these sort of things by hand anymore.  The way I see it, people hang them up and throw them out all within a month or so, so not a big reason to put much too much time into it besides the picture itself IMO.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 03:00:42 PM
The Samporenas hey?  :lol


Bingo! :lol





and if that's not your last name... where tf did that come from?  :lol

It was on the template. i forgot to change it before ordering. that's the joke.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 10, 2020, 03:09:57 PM
I'd make fun of you Tim but I've done something like that before.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on December 10, 2020, 03:11:47 PM
The Samporenas hey?  :lol


Bingo! :lol





and if that's not your last name... where tf did that come from?  :lol

It was on the template. i forgot to change it before ordering. that's the joke.

 :rollin I mean, that's fucking hilarious, it's such a random name too.  You'd think the template would be "Smith" or one of the most common names
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2020, 03:17:11 PM
The Samporenas hey?  :lol


Bingo! :lol





and if that's not your last name... where tf did that come from?  :lol

It was on the template. i forgot to change it before ordering. that's the joke.

I did think WTF, I just thought there must have been a reason or I missed something.  Plus I was just being nice.  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
With Chad's, I figured out why the cat is so pissed.  He missed out on the family shot.  Can't blame him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2020, 05:23:50 PM
That’s the cat’s normal look. Cats are cunts.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 10, 2020, 05:25:25 PM
That’s the cat’s normal look. Cats are cunts.

Only to cunt owners.


Come at me brah.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on December 10, 2020, 05:29:03 PM
Let's see a hat on your cat!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 06:12:23 PM
Cats are cunts.

So you fuck your cat? maybe that explains the look.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on December 10, 2020, 07:53:43 PM
Whoever came up with those Christmas cards was brilliant. To think before that we had to actually pick out individual cards and take the time to write something. These you can make in 2 minutes and produce by the hundreds. My wife says she likes them because it helps her "keep in touch with people" when all they really say is 1) I am still alive and 2) I still have your mailing address.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on December 10, 2020, 07:58:02 PM
And you're sending them out, right?   I would TOTALLY send those out just like they are. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 08:00:42 PM
And you're sending them out, right?   I would TOTALLY send those out just like they are.

Under intense pressure by me, my wife hasn't decided. :lol

She came home with a bunch of cards so I think her plan is to cut off the name and put them in the cards she bought.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: v_clortho on December 10, 2020, 08:06:50 PM
Who wouldn't want to be a Samporena? We should all be Samporenas next year. Who's in?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
Who wouldn't want to be a Samporena? We should all be Samporenas next year. Who's in?

Apparently my family. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on December 11, 2020, 06:29:53 AM
So I roughhouse with my 3 year old son, and he has a habit of getting really aggressive and swinging his head backwards quickly in a reverse-headbutt move.  He's caught me several times in the jaw, which hurts like hell.  Last night, he was bouncing around the couch and as I went to grab him, he flung his body and head backwards, headbutting me in the throat with the back of his head, at full speed.  It felt like a legitimate throat-punch.  I was coughing and gagging and it hurt to swallow.  I'm sure it's a little swollen - it's a bit better this morning, about 12 hours after it happened.

Just another reminder that I'm 40 and as athletic and fit that I am, I can still be caught off guard.  Advil has become my best friend this year. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 11, 2020, 09:33:33 AM
And you're sending them out, right?   I would TOTALLY send those out just like they are.
THIS
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on December 11, 2020, 09:45:14 AM
And you're sending them out, right?   I would TOTALLY send those out just like they are.

Under intense pressure by me, my wife hasn't decided. :lol

She came home with a bunch of cards so I think her plan is to cut off the name and put them in the cards she bought.

I guess it depends on who you're sending them to; I'm actually not kidding, though; my parents, my brother, my high school and college friends, they would 100% get the card that says "Samporenas" and I would make myself the butt of the joke.   I might have a second set for those I work with, or the wife's family that may not get the joke, but for those that know me, it'd be a hoot. 

(My friend did something like that a couple years ago; they took formal pictures for the family, and one came out with his big head and you could just get the sides of his wife and son beside him.   The "group" got that one - the funniest Christmas card I've ever received, hands down - and he had another one made up with the right picture - all three beautifully posed - for the rest.) 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2020, 10:01:49 AM
Yes, some people are getting Christmas greetings from the Samporenas this year. ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on December 12, 2020, 05:00:18 AM
The Samporenas hey?  :lol


Bingo! :lol



 

Seppo's would have been more appropriate eh, Kade?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on December 15, 2020, 09:54:15 AM
I realize now at age 37 I’ve been a part of this group since I was 22 or 23. It’s crazy lol. And that makes me old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 05, 2021, 07:35:25 PM
I figured this thread needed a bump and it seemed as good a thread as any to share some good news.

A month ago I had a very productive zoom call with my financial advisor.  I'm 57 and would like to retire at 59.5, 33 years with the company.  We hashed out the game plan and she said we were in great shape to do it, so we were looking at June of '23 for a retirement date.  We had a second meeting yesterday and the first thing I mentioned was that I wanted to actually up the amount I would bring home on a monthly basis.  She said the plan still worked well.  So just for shits and giggles I asked If the plan looks that good can I retire earlier?  She crunched the numbers and said.... You can go now if you want.  :omg:  So I've set a date for June 1st of this year!  We are so excited it's not even funny.  It's absolutely amazing to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Our plan is to move to Florida, probably the Port Charlotte area, from California.  The house search will start June 5th!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
Damn, man! That's awesome!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2021, 07:44:26 PM
Hot shit, that’s awesome. I just “met” with mine yesterday to update and make sure things are still on track - 7ish years to go.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2021, 07:46:10 PM
My guy is on medical leave until April 1st. We are looking at 4 years of college right now. I think we can do it loan free.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 05, 2021, 08:11:55 PM
Hot shit, that’s awesome. I just “met” with mine yesterday to update and make sure things are still on track - 7ish years to go.
  Hopefully it will fly by for you Bro!!! 


Damn, man! That's awesome!!
Yeah it is!  We are so pumped.  Working nightshift right now, tried to sleep this afternoon... no frikken way  :lol  Billion thoughts shooting through my lil pea brain.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 05, 2021, 08:19:43 PM
Jealous!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2021, 09:57:00 PM
I figured this thread needed a bump and it seemed as good a thread as any to share some good news.

A month ago I had a very productive zoom call with my financial advisor.  I'm 57 and would like to retire at 59.5, 33 years with the company.  We hashed out the game plan and she said we were in great shape to do it, so we were looking at June of '23 for a retirement date.  We had a second meeting yesterday and the first thing I mentioned was that I wanted to actually up the amount I would bring home on a monthly basis.  She said the plan still worked well.  So just for shits and giggles I asked If the plan looks that good can I retire earlier?  She crunched the numbers and said.... You can go now if you want.  :omg:  So I've set a date for June 1st of this year!  We are so excited it's not even funny.  It's absolutely amazing to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Our plan is to move to Florida, probably the Port Charlotte area, from California.  The house search will start June 5th!

Wow, that's excellent mate.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: LudwigVan on March 05, 2021, 10:44:29 PM
I figured this thread needed a bump and it seemed as good a thread as any to share some good news.

A month ago I had a very productive zoom call with my financial advisor.  I'm 57 and would like to retire at 59.5, 33 years with the company.  We hashed out the game plan and she said we were in great shape to do it, so we were looking at June of '23 for a retirement date.  We had a second meeting yesterday and the first thing I mentioned was that I wanted to actually up the amount I would bring home on a monthly basis.  She said the plan still worked well.  So just for shits and giggles I asked If the plan looks that good can I retire earlier?  She crunched the numbers and said.... You can go now if you want.  :omg:  So I've set a date for June 1st of this year!  We are so excited it's not even funny.  It's absolutely amazing to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Our plan is to move to Florida, probably the Port Charlotte area, from California.  The house search will start June 5th!

Wow, congrats!

I must say that my situation has several parallels with yours, with the main difference being that you had the benefit of choice and timely decision-making. You might call mine a forced retirement.

I'm 57 and got laid off last year (at 56) from the bank I worked at for 33 years. Before that, I always looked at 62 as the magic # for my retirement, so when I got let go it was a bit of a jolt (even though it was somewhat expected). I felt the need to jump right back into the workforce, but several factors derailed that idea. For one thing, no Wall Street bank is looking to hire a 57 year old dude. For another, any job I do happen to land in the industry would come at a big pay cut. To top it off, practically all the big bank/financial companies are fleeing NYC to operate in smaller, less expensive cities.

So I plowed my entire severance into the market, took a long hard look at my finances and determined that I could swing the earlier-than-planned retirement. Last month, we picked out a 55+ retirement community in the Tampa Bay Area and will move there from Long Island when our house is finished, hopefully around this time next year 2022.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2021, 04:32:06 AM
That's pretty good news too, Gord.  When I was exited and took my mid-life retirement (I was only 45 at the time), my team-mate who was 52 found himself in the same position.  He'd been targeting 54-55 for retirement, so had to crunch some things and make a few adjustments, but was able to pull the trigger on retirement.  I was absolutely thrilled for him.  We still keep in touch periodically, and he's doing great.  I'm sure it'll be the same for you.

Lucky bastards!  Pretty soon we're gonna need a "retirement" thread here.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 06, 2021, 05:53:49 AM

Wow, congrats!

I must say that my situation has several parallels with yours, with the main difference being that you had the benefit of choice and timely decision-making. You might call mine a forced retirement.

I'm 57 and got laid off last year (at 56) from the bank I worked at for 33 years. Before that, I always looked at 62 as the magic # for my retirement, so when I got let go it was a bit of a jolt (even though it was somewhat expected). I felt the need to jump right back into the workforce, but several factors derailed that idea. For one thing, no Wall Street bank is looking to hire a 57 year old dude. For another, any job I do happen to land in the industry would come at a big pay cut. To top it off, practically all the big bank/financial companies are fleeing NYC to operate in smaller, less expensive cities.

So I plowed my entire severance into the market, took a long hard look at my finances and determined that I could swing the earlier-than-planned retirement. Last month, we picked out a 55+ retirement community in the Tampa Bay Area and will move there from Long Island when our house is finished, hopefully around this time next year 2022.
Well it sounds like at the end of the day you're good!!!  That's awesome!  Hell, we're gonna be neighbors! (1.5-2hr drive)  Are you building a new home or doing a remodel?



That's pretty good news too, Gord.  When I was exited and took my mid-life retirement (I was only 45 at the time), my team-mate who was 52 found himself in the same position.  He'd been targeting 54-55 for retirement, so had to crunch some things and make a few adjustments, but was able to pull the trigger on retirement.  I was absolutely thrilled for him.  We still keep in touch periodically, and he's doing great.  I'm sure it'll be the same for you.

Lucky bastards!  Pretty soon we're gonna need a "retirement" thread here.   :lol
It's amazing how things seem to work out.  I guess we plan conservatively, which as it turns out isn't a bad thing!  Yeah, I almost created a retirement thread last night then thought just throw it in with the Old Bastards  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: LudwigVan on March 06, 2021, 10:15:58 AM
That's pretty good news too, Gord.  When I was exited and took my mid-life retirement (I was only 45 at the time), my team-mate who was 52 found himself in the same position.  He'd been targeting 54-55 for retirement, so had to crunch some things and make a few adjustments, but was able to pull the trigger on retirement.  I was absolutely thrilled for him.  We still keep in touch periodically, and he's doing great.  I'm sure it'll be the same for you.

Lucky bastards!  Pretty soon we're gonna need a "retirement" thread here.   :lol

Yeah Chad, it seems the mid-50s is kind of a no-man's land where agism kicks in and you can find yourself stuck between the need/desire to keep working and companies looking to give you the big boot in favor of younger/cheaper talent. Thanks for the thought!


Well it sounds like at the end of the day you're good!!!  That's awesome!  Hell, we're gonna be neighbors! (1.5-2hr drive)  Are you building a new home or doing a remodel?


We're building in a brand new development that's about a half-hour from downtown Tampa. Coming from the NYC area, we wanted to stay close to a major city. We did check into several places along the gulf coast, from Ft Myers to Sarasota and Bradenton. We also had the benefit of getting advice from a former LI neighbor who had relocated to Bonita Springs and we ended up using the same builder they did.

How did you pick Port Charlotte? Good luck with your search!


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 06, 2021, 05:20:49 PM
This retirement talk is fucking with me.

I'm 52 and have never really given a thought abut retirement. I mean, we'll be prepared financially, but I'm talking in terms of stopping working.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 06, 2021, 07:01:19 PM
That's pretty good news too, Gord.  When I was exited and took my mid-life retirement (I was only 45 at the time), my team-mate who was 52 found himself in the same position.  He'd been targeting 54-55 for retirement, so had to crunch some things and make a few adjustments, but was able to pull the trigger on retirement.  I was absolutely thrilled for him.  We still keep in touch periodically, and he's doing great.  I'm sure it'll be the same for you.

Lucky bastards!  Pretty soon we're gonna need a "retirement" thread here.   :lol

Yeah Chad, it seems the mid-50s is kind of a no-man's land where agism kicks in and you can find yourself stuck between the need/desire to keep working and companies looking to give you the big boot in favor of younger/cheaper talent. Thanks for the thought!


Well it sounds like at the end of the day you're good!!!  That's awesome!  Hell, we're gonna be neighbors! (1.5-2hr drive)  Are you building a new home or doing a remodel?


We're building in a brand new development that's about a half-hour from downtown Tampa. Coming from the NYC area, we wanted to stay close to a major city. We did check into several places along the gulf coast, from Ft Myers to Sarasota and Bradenton. We also had the benefit of getting advice from a former LI neighbor who had relocated to Bonita Springs and we ended up using the same builder they did.

How did you pick Port Charlotte? Good luck with your search!
Wow!  Sounds like you guys have a great plan.  Port Charlotte up to Bradenton is our next research stop.  We did the Atlantic coast research last year.  Cape Coral was a consideration till I started going through all their city ordinances.  Not being allowed to park a boat anywhere on your property was a sure deal breaker for us.  From all the research I've done from Cali, it seems Englewood or Venice would be top of our list, Port Charlotte is a little more affordable as far as how much home you get for your money.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 06, 2021, 07:02:10 PM
My parents live in Cape Coral.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 06, 2021, 07:39:55 PM
My parents live in Cape Coral.
I thought it was gonna be a legit option till I ran into the ordinances :(
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on March 06, 2021, 08:23:16 PM
Awesome news for all you retirees and soon to be retirees.  I can't really fathom the idea of no longer working
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 06, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Awesome news for all you retirees and soon to be retirees.  I can't really fathom the idea of no longer working
Just because you love to stay busy with work? 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2021, 06:06:44 AM
Awesome news for all you retirees and soon to be retirees.  I can't really fathom the idea of no longer working
Just because you love to stay busy with work?

Prolly cuz he's still in his 30s.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2021, 01:35:42 PM
While I'm in my 30's too, I find it hard to comprehend.  I'd seriously have no idea what I would do with my time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on March 07, 2021, 01:58:41 PM
I'm 54, and while I work, and have no plans for retirement just yet, it's not about "what would I do with my time".   If I was to retire tomorrow, I'd be just as busy in a different way.  My stepson would have that fire pit he's been longing for since he moved in, that Subaru he wants to rebuild the engine on would be running, I'd be more diligent in putting down songs for my "midlife crisis album", I'd do that two-week "ancestry" tour of Central Europe, my Beatles tour of England, etc. etc.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 07, 2021, 04:19:44 PM
I have definitely always been 100% in the "Work to Live" and not the "Live to Work" camp.  I don't think I will have any worries about keeping myself mentally stimulated enough.  Even when I was younger!
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2021, 07:21:24 PM
I have definitely always been 100% in the "Work to Live" and not the "Live to Work" camp.  I don't think I will have any worries about keeping myself mentally stimulated enough.  Even when I was younger!

Same... I think.  I know that I can easily fill my time over a 1-2 week vacation.  Not sure how I'd fare for 1-2 decades.  I'd have to find some more hobbies, maybe some part-time work for something that is a time filler - but has to be something I'd fully enjoy without reservation.  Oh, and vacations and travel. Lots of that.
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2021, 07:26:03 PM
I have definitely always been 100% in the "Work to Live" and not the "Live to Work" camp.  I don't think I will have any worries about keeping myself mentally stimulated enough.  Even when I was younger!

Same... I think.  I know that I can easily fill my time over a 1-2 week vacation.  Not sure how I'd fare for 1-2 decades.  I'd have to find some more hobbies, maybe some part-time work for something that is a time filler - but has to be something I'd fully enjoy without reservation.  Oh, and vacations and travel. Lots of that.

I've honestly never really imagined being retired.  I think I'd still have a part time job or something.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2021, 07:32:55 PM
I have definitely always been 100% in the "Work to Live" and not the "Live to Work" camp.  I don't think I will have any worries about keeping myself mentally stimulated enough.  Even when I was younger!

Same... I think.  I know that I can easily fill my time over a 1-2 week vacation.  Not sure how I'd fare for 1-2 decades.  I'd have to find some more hobbies, maybe some part-time work for something that is a time filler - but has to be something I'd fully enjoy without reservation.  Oh, and vacations and travel. Lots of that.

I've honestly never really imagined being retired.  I think I'd still have a part time job or something.

I've always thought it would be fun to be a golf course Ranger.  Drive around all day, shoot the shit with people, tell the slow hackers to hurry the fuck up  :lol.  Though, I get the sense golf is a dying activity/past-time.  There's enough wineries around here I could do something related to that... not a maker or sommelier or anything intense like that - tour host, driver, delivery, something simple.
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2021, 07:37:16 PM
I have definitely always been 100% in the "Work to Live" and not the "Live to Work" camp.  I don't think I will have any worries about keeping myself mentally stimulated enough.  Even when I was younger!

Same... I think.  I know that I can easily fill my time over a 1-2 week vacation.  Not sure how I'd fare for 1-2 decades.  I'd have to find some more hobbies, maybe some part-time work for something that is a time filler - but has to be something I'd fully enjoy without reservation.  Oh, and vacations and travel. Lots of that.

I've honestly never really imagined being retired.  I think I'd still have a part time job or something.

I've always thought it would be fun to be a golf course Ranger.  Drive around all day, shoot the shit with people, tell the slow hackers to hurry the fuck up  :lol.  Though, I get the sense golf is a dying activity/past-time.  There's enough wineries around here I could do something related to that... not a maker or sommelier or anything intense like that - tour host, driver, delivery, something simple.

Ticket taker :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2021, 08:22:23 PM
I have definitely always been 100% in the "Work to Live" and not the "Live to Work" camp.  I don't think I will have any worries about keeping myself mentally stimulated enough.  Even when I was younger!

Same... I think.  I know that I can easily fill my time over a 1-2 week vacation.  Not sure how I'd fare for 1-2 decades.  I'd have to find some more hobbies, maybe some part-time work for something that is a time filler - but has to be something I'd fully enjoy without reservation.  Oh, and vacations and travel. Lots of that.

I've honestly never really imagined being retired.  I think I'd still have a part time job or something.

This will be me.  Even retired I think I'll still do something casual.
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Post by: chknptpie on March 08, 2021, 06:00:12 AM
I dont see how retiring before 65 is even an option for me. The lack of medical insurance through an employer just seems so daunting.
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Post by: Stadler on March 08, 2021, 06:58:44 AM
My Dad had a good gig when he went to Florida; when in Connecticut, before he got sick, he used to build houses, and has a lot of experience in residential construction.  He went and got his contractor's license (a very valuable thing in Florida), and a company that builds high end ($5M+) homes in the SW Florida area hired him to be a regional supervisor, in part to have another licensed person on payroll.  They gave him a Jeep with a phone and a radio and he drove from site to site not managing any one particular job or crew, but being available to problem-solve and trouble shoot for the foremen of each job/crew.   Something new every day, not stuck to a desk, and if need be, he could make his doctor's appointments and what not.   He did that for probably 12, 15 years after moving down there.  He's not one to take advantage, but if he was, I imagine he could have sit and watched NCIS reruns and Days Of Our Lives all day and still would have been valuable.
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Post by: Evermind on March 08, 2021, 08:25:12 AM
I dont see how retiring before 65 is even an option for me.

The retirement age for men in my country is 65, and the life expectancy is around the same number I think. Fun times, but we'll see how it goes.
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Post by: Stadler on March 08, 2021, 08:39:26 AM
I dont see how retiring before 65 is even an option for me.

The retirement age for men in my country is 65, and the life expectancy is around the same number I think. Fun times, but we'll see how it goes.

There are still a LOT of people in the United States that believe to retire is to die.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 08, 2021, 09:53:17 AM
I can't wait to retire.  And I love my job.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on March 08, 2021, 10:07:57 AM
Same.  If I could retire today I would do it in a New York second and I also love my job.


I've got 10 years to go still so can't really entertain the thought but we're planning.  I've got a 401k I've been paying into since 2000 and with another 10 years of putting in the max and my company matching it every year we'll be able to live where we want to live which is in the Breckenridge, Colorado area.  Probably Frisco, the next town over.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2021, 10:25:30 AM
I can't wait to retire.  And I love my job.

Same.  I don't mind to keep working so long as I'm enjoying it.  I mean, the money is good and if working a couple more years beyond what I 'have' to will allow me a more comfortable lifestyle for the 'retirement' years/decades, I'm ok with that.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 08, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
My job is not bad, but I wouldn't say I love it. Still got at least 10 more years to go but if I could retire tomorrow I would absolutely do it.

Just the amount of music I want to check out would keep me busy the first couple of years in my retirement  :D and then there are a lot of other things I'd like to do and a lot of places I'd like to travel when I finally get the time.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
My job is not bad, but I wouldn't say I love it. Still got at least 10 more years to go but if I could retire tomorrow I would absolutely do it.

Just the amount of music I want to check out would keep me busy the first couple of years in my retirement  :D and then there are a lot of other things I'd like to do and a lot of places I'd like to travel when I finally get the time.

Sound like someone needs to run a roulette!!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 08, 2021, 11:11:04 AM
You keep saying that. I'll probably do it once I'm retired.  ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2021, 11:52:41 AM
You keep saying that. I'll probably do it once I'm retired.  ;D

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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 09, 2021, 04:44:30 PM
I dont see how retiring before 65 is even an option for me. The lack of medical insurance through an employer just seems so daunting.
It's definitely a big thing.  Luckily I have my company ins. till 65.  I do have a friend who's retired though that says his Obamacare is pretty cheap, because of the lower amount he brings home annually.  Might be something to look at.
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Post by: carl320 on March 20, 2021, 07:54:40 AM
Hi, I just joined this club today.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 20, 2021, 08:25:12 AM
Welcome.   And now take a nap.
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Post by: lordxizor on March 20, 2021, 08:33:34 AM
All the retirement talk is making me jealous. I find it interesting that it seems like everyone here has done very well with their retirement investing. Considering half of people over age 50 have nothing at all saved for retirement, the fact that it seems like everyone here will be ready early is kind of cool!

I turn 40 in a couple months (don't kick me out of the thread please!) and am gunning for retirement in my mid-50s. Or at least reaching financial independence. I have no idea if I'll actually stop working at that point, I just want it to be an option. I'm sure I'll do something to keep busy. I'd love for it to be earlier, but I don't think that will happen with 4 kids and wife who doesn't work.
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Post by: carl320 on March 20, 2021, 08:35:53 AM
Welcome.   And now take a nap.

I just got home from work.  A nap sounds good to me  :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 20, 2021, 09:05:21 AM
 :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on March 20, 2021, 09:07:23 AM
"I love a good nap. Sometimes it's the only thing getting me up in the morning." -George Costanza
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Post by: hunnus2000 on March 20, 2021, 10:33:46 AM
All the retirement talk is making me jealous. I find it interesting that it seems like everyone here has done very well with their retirement investing. Considering half of people over age 50 have nothing at all saved for retirement, the fact that it seems like everyone here will be ready early is kind of cool!

I turn 40 in a couple months (don't kick me out of the thread please!) and am gunning for retirement in my mid-50s. Or at least reaching financial independence. I have no idea if I'll actually stop working at that point, I just want it to be an option. I'm sure I'll do something to keep busy. I'd love for it to be earlier, but I don't think that will happen with 4 kids and wife who doesn't work.

I am 56 and am looking at retiring in Jan. 2023 because I will have been with the State 5 years and can retire and buy insurance from the State until I am ready for Medicare. Fuck I am ready! I could do it now if it weren't for insurance which is why I want Medicare for all!  :metal
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 21, 2021, 03:50:08 PM
I'm going to do an old man 'get off my lawn' complaint session, just because I need to.

Few weeks ago I had a biopsy done on a spot on my back. It came back abnormal with a severity of moderate. A week later I was having a surgeon cut a slab out of my back. That was Wednesday. I now have a roughly 3 inch gash held shut by 6 large stitches in my back and it could not be more uncomfortable. Several nights of almost no sleep and I feel like a walking zombie right now. I went out for the first time yesterday since the procedure and that was a huge mistake. I was bent over the steering wheel like an old woman complaining the whole time I was in the car about the pain. It was brutal.

I might not even be done either. They sent the slab out for a biopsy and it might come back that I need more flesh removed. Really hoping he got it all because I'd really like to sleep again. Stitches don't come out until the 31st.

As a co-worker told me, sucks gettin' old.
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Post by: TAC on March 21, 2021, 04:48:03 PM
Shit man, your discomfort now is certainly a PITA, but I really hope all of the tests work our for you.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2021, 04:56:20 PM
Shit man, your discomfort now is certainly a PITA, but I really hope all of the tests work our for you.

Yeah... that was my thought too, Prof.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 21, 2021, 04:56:54 PM
Shit man, your discomfort now is certainly a PITA, but I really hope all of the tests work our for you.

Thanks, man.

Since sitting and laying down are not particularly awesome, I am trying to occupy myself with random tasks around the house. I don't have enough of a functioning brain to devote to watching a show or anything. Just have my Plex music server on random and trying to do some organization that I have wanted to do. Mainly, needed to clear more space for CD's. My desk had stacks of new discs on it that needed a home. Slowly packing away old DVD's as my music overtakes everything. Anything to occupy myself. I feel like I am going to take a header into my keyboard just typing this. Ah, Armored Saint just came on. That woke me up.
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Post by: TAC on March 21, 2021, 05:08:04 PM
Armored Saint is viagra for the ears.  :metal
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Post by: Cool Chris on March 21, 2021, 07:23:04 PM
I find it interesting that it seems like everyone here has done very well with their retirement investing. Considering half of people over age 50 have nothing at all saved for retirement, the fact that it seems like everyone here will be ready early is kind of cool!

Was thinking the same. Glad to hear many forumers are on a solid path. After a quick search I pulled this article, admittedly from 2019. This is awful.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/survey-finds-42-americans-retire-100701878.html

I have never enjoyed working and will savor the day I no longer have to. Fortunately my wife loves working and will probably work in some educational capacity in to her 70s. Her district should have her set up once she hits 65 (I think that is the date) and coupled with how much I put away, I am hoping our elder years are comfortable. I don't want to go on any grand adventures, tour the world, or any of that - though I might feel differently when the time comes. I just want to stop working at a reasonable age and maintain a reasonable lifestyle, while making sure my kids are taken care of as well.
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Post by: Zoom E on March 21, 2021, 07:58:48 PM
I can retire in two years, but if I want to max out my pension I need to work another 7 years. I've been working from home since the pandemic started, and that sure makes the daily grind a little easier to handle. That’s helping me feel like I can work longer than two years, but I will see how I feel when I get there.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 22, 2021, 08:52:10 AM
Was thinking the same. Glad to hear many forumers are on a solid path. After a quick search I pulled this article, admittedly from 2019. This is awful.
Agreed!  Great to hear that so many of us here are in a good position to retire.  I truly feel blessed and fortunate to have had such a great career and opportunities in my life.  Especially when there are so many not so fortunate.  All thanks to my higher power, Jesus.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 22, 2021, 11:54:30 AM
Was thinking the same. Glad to hear many forumers are on a solid path. After a quick search I pulled this article, admittedly from 2019. This is awful.
Agreed!  Great to hear that so many of us here are in a good position to retire.  I truly feel blessed and fortunate to have had such a great career and opportunities in my life.  Especially when there are so many not so fortunate.  All thanks to my higher power, Jesus.

Was he matching your 401k too??   ;D
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 23, 2021, 08:37:17 AM
I'm going to do an old man 'get off my lawn' complaint session, just because I need to.

Few weeks ago I had a biopsy done on a spot on my back. It came back abnormal with a severity of moderate. A week later I was having a surgeon cut a slab out of my back. That was Wednesday. I now have a roughly 3 inch gash held shut by 6 large stitches in my back and it could not be more uncomfortable. Several nights of almost no sleep and I feel like a walking zombie right now. I went out for the first time yesterday since the procedure and that was a huge mistake. I was bent over the steering wheel like an old woman complaining the whole time I was in the car about the pain. It was brutal.

I might not even be done either. They sent the slab out for a biopsy and it might come back that I need more flesh removed. Really hoping he got it all because I'd really like to sleep again. Stitches don't come out until the 31st.

As a co-worker told me, sucks gettin' old.

Got the results of the biopsy of the slab removed from my back. Thankfully, the surgeon got it all and all that is left is to remove the stitches. Still have a week with these things in my back, so that sucks, but at least I know it will be over by then.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 23, 2021, 08:46:48 AM
Still that's great news!
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2021, 09:13:43 AM
Yes, that's awesome!!
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 23, 2021, 10:52:08 AM
Was thinking the same. Glad to hear many forumers are on a solid path. After a quick search I pulled this article, admittedly from 2019. This is awful.
Agreed!  Great to hear that so many of us here are in a good position to retire.  I truly feel blessed and fortunate to have had such a great career and opportunities in my life.  Especially when there are so many not so fortunate.  All thanks to my higher power, Jesus.

Was he matching your 401k too??   ;D
I give him the credit for ALL my success :)



Got the results of the biopsy of the slab removed from my back. Thankfully, the surgeon got it all and all that is left is to remove the stitches. Still have a week with these things in my back, so that sucks, but at least I know it will be over by then.
  Was it Non-melenoma?  I just had Mohl surgery on the left side of my temple for squamous non-melanoma skin cancer.  Have to have the same procedure on my right side next month.  Good to hear the surgeon got it all for you!!  Speedy recovery Brother!
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Post by: Stadler on March 23, 2021, 12:18:19 PM
I'm going to do an old man 'get off my lawn' complaint session, just because I need to.

Few weeks ago I had a biopsy done on a spot on my back. It came back abnormal with a severity of moderate. A week later I was having a surgeon cut a slab out of my back. That was Wednesday. I now have a roughly 3 inch gash held shut by 6 large stitches in my back and it could not be more uncomfortable. Several nights of almost no sleep and I feel like a walking zombie right now. I went out for the first time yesterday since the procedure and that was a huge mistake. I was bent over the steering wheel like an old woman complaining the whole time I was in the car about the pain. It was brutal.

I might not even be done either. They sent the slab out for a biopsy and it might come back that I need more flesh removed. Really hoping he got it all because I'd really like to sleep again. Stitches don't come out until the 31st.

As a co-worker told me, sucks gettin' old.

Got the results of the biopsy of the slab removed from my back. Thankfully, the surgeon got it all and all that is left is to remove the stitches. Still have a week with these things in my back, so that sucks, but at least I know it will be over by then.

Happy for you!   That must be a load off.
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Post by: faizoff on March 23, 2021, 01:46:54 PM
I'm going to do an old man 'get off my lawn' complaint session, just because I need to.

Few weeks ago I had a biopsy done on a spot on my back. It came back abnormal with a severity of moderate. A week later I was having a surgeon cut a slab out of my back. That was Wednesday. I now have a roughly 3 inch gash held shut by 6 large stitches in my back and it could not be more uncomfortable. Several nights of almost no sleep and I feel like a walking zombie right now. I went out for the first time yesterday since the procedure and that was a huge mistake. I was bent over the steering wheel like an old woman complaining the whole time I was in the car about the pain. It was brutal.

I might not even be done either. They sent the slab out for a biopsy and it might come back that I need more flesh removed. Really hoping he got it all because I'd really like to sleep again. Stitches don't come out until the 31st.

As a co-worker told me, sucks gettin' old.

Got the results of the biopsy of the slab removed from my back. Thankfully, the surgeon got it all and all that is left is to remove the stitches. Still have a week with these things in my back, so that sucks, but at least I know it will be over by then.

That's good to hear, hope you have a speedy recovery.

This is my thread too, these are my people.
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2021, 03:08:45 PM
I'm going to do an old man 'get off my lawn' complaint session, just because I need to.

Few weeks ago I had a biopsy done on a spot on my back. It came back abnormal with a severity of moderate. A week later I was having a surgeon cut a slab out of my back. That was Wednesday. I now have a roughly 3 inch gash held shut by 6 large stitches in my back and it could not be more uncomfortable. Several nights of almost no sleep and I feel like a walking zombie right now. I went out for the first time yesterday since the procedure and that was a huge mistake. I was bent over the steering wheel like an old woman complaining the whole time I was in the car about the pain. It was brutal.

I might not even be done either. They sent the slab out for a biopsy and it might come back that I need more flesh removed. Really hoping he got it all because I'd really like to sleep again. Stitches don't come out until the 31st.

As a co-worker told me, sucks gettin' old.

Got the results of the biopsy of the slab removed from my back. Thankfully, the surgeon got it all and all that is left is to remove the stitches. Still have a week with these things in my back, so that sucks, but at least I know it will be over by then.

Good result mate.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 23, 2021, 07:49:13 PM
Thanks everyone.

It was not cancer, but they told me that it wasn't far off. Sounds like had I procrastinated any longer it might have progressed all the way to cancer. I now have to have yearly exams by the dermatologist to make sure I don't get more. Really hope this was a one time thing. It sucks hard.
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Post by: Podaar on March 24, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
PP,

Over the last five years or so, Mrs. P has had probably 30 or more of those slice biopsies and at least 6 Mohs Surgeries like you had. She spent her youth sun tanning religiously with baby oil... The Mohs she had on her left shin was the worst. She ended up having plastic surgery to minimize the scar left by that one. It's been horrific to just be an observer of, so while I can't say I've felt your pain, I can sympathies by caring for someone with skin cancer issues.

I suspect you dermatologist wants to see you frequently now that you've had a bad occurrence. Right?
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 24, 2021, 08:09:56 AM
PP,

Over the last five years or so, Mrs. P has had probably 30 or more of those slice biopsies and at least 6 Mohs Surgeries like you had. She spent her youth sun tanning religiously with baby oil... The Mohs she had on her left shin was the worst. She ended up having plastic surgery to minimize the scar left by that one. It's been horrific to just be an observer of, so while I can't say I've felt your pain, I can sympathies by caring for someone with skin cancer issues.

I suspect you dermatologist wants to see you frequently now that you've had a bad occurrence. Right?

For now, it's yearly. I guess that could change depending on things go.

My biggest issue is I let it get too big before finally listening to my doctor. I own that. To hear the surgeon immediately mention how big the thing was didn't make me feel great. I can't even tell how many anesthetic injections he had to give me just to remove the patch. It was a lot.
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Post by: EPICVIEW on March 24, 2021, 06:23:58 PM
Im old....
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 24, 2021, 08:14:59 PM
Im old....
welcome to the club    :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2021, 08:15:34 PM
Im old....
welcome to the club    :lol

He's an original member! :lol
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Post by: kirksnosehair on March 25, 2021, 06:48:08 AM
PP,

Over the last five years or so, Mrs. P has had probably 30 or more of those slice biopsies and at least 6 Mohs Surgeries like you had. She spent her youth sun tanning religiously with baby oil... The Mohs she had on her left shin was the worst. She ended up having plastic surgery to minimize the scar left by that one. It's been horrific to just be an observer of, so while I can't say I've felt your pain, I can sympathies by caring for someone with skin cancer issues.

I suspect you dermatologist wants to see you frequently now that you've had a bad occurrence. Right?

For now, it's yearly. I guess that could change depending on things go.

My biggest issue is I let it get too big before finally listening to my doctor. I own that. To hear the surgeon immediately mention how big the thing was didn't make me feel great. I can't even tell how many anesthetic injections he had to give me just to remove the patch. It was a lot.


I can definitely relate to putting things off with doctors and dentists alike.  I would always wait until I couldn't stand one more minute of the tooth ache then I would finally make the appointment.  But after going through a few of those, with all of them ending in root canals (I've had 7), I found that ultimately I will suffer a lot less pain if I just contact the dentist the minute anything feels wrong.  Even though I've still ended up having to get root canals, I didn't have to deal with taking antibiotics for a week while I try to dull the pain with non-narcotic pain meds.  I'm an addict, I can't have any narcotics, I'm allergic to narcotics.  Every time I use narcotics I break out in cuffs.  :police: 


By avoiding going to the dentist to deal with a toothache it ended up costing me a week of having to live with that toothache pain with only Advil or Tylenol to take the edge off while I ran through the course of antibiotics to get rid of the infection and clear the abscess.  That was the cost.  A week of that suffering.  So I stopped avoiding the dentist and it's just much less painful in the end.

Remember what it felt like during that period of time when you still did not know the results of the biopsy?  The not knowing.  Considering the possibility that it could be malignant. That had to suck for you.  Big time.  Don't forget what it felt like.


I know what that's like having had two liver biopsies to measure the fibrosity of my cirrhosis.  Stage 4 means irreversible liver failure is coming at some point; you go on the transplant list.  As it turned out I was on the bubble at the high end of the range for Stage 2, not quite high enough to be classified as Stage 3 but close.  A manageable condition, but not without symptoms like frequent nausea and vomiting.  Now here's the point of telling you all of this: I knew there was something wrong with me LONG before I ever mentioned anything to the doctors.  Had I said something sooner I might not puke pretty much every day at least once.  That was the cost of my fear and inaction.  And it's a lifetime subscription.  Liver cirrhosis doesn't reverse itself and it can't be fixed.

I didn't tell you all that looking for sympathy, I've long made my peace with it.  I thought it was worth mentioning after what you just went through.  It's a real-life cautionary tale. 

These days I don't fuck around when it comes to my teeth or my general health.  I eat mostly healthy stuff, exercise every day, no booze, no drugs, although I've been known to puff the peace pipe from time to time.  Doctor said I can live to be 100 with this liver but I will probably always have the nausea and vomiting, it's a classic symptom of cirrhosis.

Don't make the mistake of putting off medical and dental stuff.  Get out in front of it the minute you can.  You'll never regret doing that route.  Never.



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Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 25, 2021, 08:07:44 AM
Totally get it. The thing is, I've been on the straight and narrow with doctors for some time now. For some reason, I slacked on this one thing. I have a hereditary issue with triglycerides that I have had to be on top of since I was around 24. I could be the most healthy eater in the world and my triglycerides would still be dangerously high. For some time, my doctor could not figure out what was causing the health issues I was having (my hands froze up and I couldn't even grasp a pen). Turns out, I had so much fat in my blood it was starting to restrict flow. Thankfully, it manifested itself in my hands first. My doctor at the time said he couldn't believe I hadn't had a massive heart attack already. Cholesterol has never been an issue, just the triglycerides.

Since then I get yearly physicals and blood work so I can get my med refills to control the triglycerides. I get teeth cleaning's every 6 months from my dentist, etc. I honestly can't give a reason why I ignored this dermatology thing. Now I will have yearly exams going forward.

As we get older, this point gets more prescient, don't slack off - See the doctor.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on March 25, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Good man  :tup
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Post by: Stadler on March 25, 2021, 12:48:24 PM
Thanks for sharing (seriously).  It's a lesson I'm still sort of learning (at 53).
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on May 01, 2021, 12:05:06 PM
Stick a fork in me....I'm dun!

Bittersweet night last night. It was my last actual working shift, I have 6 sick days to burn now to lead me up to my May 12th exit interview. The crew made an awesome filet mignon dinner, and they are throwing me a nice Retirement shindig at one of our local bar and grills on Tuesday. It felt kinda unreal walking out of the refinery this morning. I KNEW I would never go through those turnstiles again, but everything still seemed so ordinary and routine. I guess it will take some time to sink in. The bittersweetness comes with the knowledge that the last couple shifts are the last time I will probably see some of my long time coworkers ever again. Seeing we're heading out to Florida. I think this will take awhile to sink in, but.... It's definitely a good thing!!!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 01, 2021, 01:16:17 PM
Stick a fork in me....I'm dun!

Bittersweet night last night. It was my last actual working shift, I have 6 sick days to burn now to lead me up to my May 12th exit interview. The crew made an awesome filet mignon dinner, and they are throwing me a nice Retirement shindig at one of our local bar and grills on Tuesday. It felt kinda unreal walking out of the refinery this morning. I KNEW I would never go through those turnstiles again, but everything still seemed so ordinary and routine. I guess it will take some time to sink in. The bittersweetness comes with the knowledge that the last couple shifts are the last time I will probably see some of my long time coworkers ever again. Seeing we're heading out to Florida. I think this will take awhile to sink in, but.... It's definitely a good thing!!!!

Congrats!!!  And yeah, I know the feeling of 'heading out and never seeing some of those people again'.  It is indeed bittersweet.
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Post by: LudwigVan on May 01, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Stick a fork in me....I'm dun!

Bittersweet night last night. It was my last actual working shift, I have 6 sick days to burn now to lead me up to my May 12th exit interview. The crew made an awesome filet mignon dinner, and they are throwing me a nice Retirement shindig at one of our local bar and grills on Tuesday. It felt kinda unreal walking out of the refinery this morning. I KNEW I would never go through those turnstiles again, but everything still seemed so ordinary and routine. I guess it will take some time to sink in. The bittersweetness comes with the knowledge that the last couple shifts are the last time I will probably see some of my long time coworkers ever again. Seeing we're heading out to Florida. I think this will take awhile to sink in, but.... It's definitely a good thing!!!!

Congrats! I'm glad you got the big sendoff/retirement party. I looked forward to getting something like that but never got the chance. After 33 years at my bank, all I got was the big pink slip and my boss escorting me to the elevators. Surreal in a different way. All bitter, no sweet.

Enjoy!!!
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on May 01, 2021, 04:32:36 PM
Congrats! I'm glad you got the big sendoff/retirement party. I looked forward to getting something like that but never got the chance. After 33 years at my bank, all I got was the big pink slip and my boss escorting me to the elevators. Surreal in a different way. All bitter, no sweet.

Enjoy!!!
Well... that totally sucks.  I can't imagine that after 33 years!  Talk about the thankless corporate entity.  Sorry you went through that.  My timing might be fortuitous with the way my industry is going in California.  I worry for the coworkers I just left behind.  That they might not survive the next takeover.  We've been through 4 in the last 20 years and things degrade with each one.



Congrats!!!  And yeah, I know the feeling of 'heading out and never seeing some of those people again'.  It is indeed bittersweet.
Thanks Brother!!!!  Definitely gonna miss my gang.
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2021, 04:41:41 PM
Congrats Sunrise!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 25, 2021, 03:29:46 PM
So back on March 27th I was fishing in a Bass tournament at Table Rock Lake, and my buddy and I weren't really doing too hot in the tourney. We were having fun but couldn't put ourselves on any fish. At one point we were fishing along side some bluffs in about 90 foot of water just seeing if maybe they were holding tight to the bluffs.

A few hundred yards down the bluffs we saw a family had anchored next to them in a pontoon boat and their kids were swinging off of this rope swing out into the water. They eventually left, and we eventually made it to the section where the rope swing was. Being bored and still a kid at heart, I jumped out onto a rock cropping on the bluff and grabbed the swing, and swung out over our boat a couple times. I was never going to let go as I didn't want to get wet....just screwing around and swinging out over the water. Some video was taken and laughs were had...no big deal.

Later that night I noticed my right shoulder was really hurting me and I chalked it up to an overweight 45 year old man suddenly demanding his shoulder face the burden of making sure I didn't fall in the water. Thing is....it just never got better. In fact, with each passing day it was worse and worse. I mean, this puppy was sore as all heck and I wasn't doing it any favors by continuing to play ice hockey on Sunday nights. The pain got so severe that I started to worry I tore something and really damaged it.

Well, about two weeks ago I decided to start blasting my shoulder with an E-Stimulator. I remembered back when I had tennis elbow a few years ago that I used an E-Stim and that tennis elbow disappeared quickly. As I sit here today the pain has subsided ten fold. I can still feel some kinks and discomfort but I'm able to lift my arm without wincing again and I can feel it getting better each day. At least at this point I cancelled my Dr. appointment to get the shoulder evaluated because it feels that much better. I'm thinking another week or so of E-Stim treatment and I'll be good to go.

Anyone else ever use an E-Stim for any ailments? This will be twice now that it has drastically sped up the healing process....and I'm guessing in both instances it was just muscle strain/damage that was the issue. No real structural damage...which helped.
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2021, 03:47:39 PM
I google imaged e stimulator.. :lol Bad idea.

What kind of thing do you use Gary?

My shoulder is always hurting. The ortho said I have an impingement. An impingement? That's the kind of thing I laugh at pro athletes missing time for.
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2021, 03:48:27 PM
Oh, and speaking of old, my youngest son graduates high school on Friday.

Will post in the Proud Parent Thread over the weekend.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 25, 2021, 04:10:03 PM
So fast Tim. Where does the time go?
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 25, 2021, 04:54:09 PM
Yeah, gimme a link to this e-stim thing - I'm not making the same mistake Tim did.  If it's working for you the way you say, I could go for something like that on a couple of spots that I have these nagging aches and pains (nothing as dramatic as yours, but they just won't go away).  I've been taking some muscle/joint supplements that are helping slowly/surely, but they ain't cheap.  They are also doing a good job at managing mrs.jingle's back muscle issues (recurring inflammation).
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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 25, 2021, 07:31:23 PM
Yeah, gimme a link to this e-stim thing - I'm not making the same mistake Tim did.  If it's working for you the way you say, I could go for something like that on a couple of spots that I have these nagging aches and pains (nothing as dramatic as yours, but they just won't go away).  I've been taking some muscle/joint supplements that are helping slowly/surely, but they ain't cheap.  They are also doing a good job at managing mrs.jingle's back muscle issues (recurring inflammation).

Just texted you a link. Will try to post one here when I get home.
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Post by: Stadler on May 26, 2021, 07:52:43 AM
So back on March 27th I was fishing in a Bass tournament at Table Rock Lake, and my buddy and I weren't really doing too hot in the tourney. We were having fun but couldn't put ourselves on any fish. At one point we were fishing along side some bluffs in about 90 foot of water just seeing if maybe they were holding tight to the bluffs.

A few hundred yards down the bluffs we saw a family had anchored next to them in a pontoon boat and their kids were swinging off of this rope swing out into the water. They eventually left, and we eventually made it to the section where the rope swing was. Being bored and still a kid at heart, I jumped out onto a rock cropping on the bluff and grabbed the swing, and swung out over our boat a couple times. I was never going to let go as I didn't want to get wet....just screwing around and swinging out over the water. Some video was taken and laughs were had...no big deal.

Later that night I noticed my right shoulder was really hurting me and I chalked it up to an overweight 45 year old man suddenly demanding his shoulder face the burden of making sure I didn't fall in the water. Thing is....it just never got better. In fact, with each passing day it was worse and worse. I mean, this puppy was sore as all heck and I wasn't doing it any favors by continuing to play ice hockey on Sunday nights. The pain got so severe that I started to worry I tore something and really damaged it.

Well, about two weeks ago I decided to start blasting my shoulder with an E-Stimulator. I remembered back when I had tennis elbow a few years ago that I used an E-Stim and that tennis elbow disappeared quickly. As I sit here today the pain has subsided ten fold. I can still feel some kinks and discomfort but I'm able to lift my arm without wincing again and I can feel it getting better each day. At least at this point I cancelled my Dr. appointment to get the shoulder evaluated because it feels that much better. I'm thinking another week or so of E-Stim treatment and I'll be good to go.

Anyone else ever use an E-Stim for any ailments? This will be twice now that it has drastically sped up the healing process....and I'm guessing in both instances it was just muscle strain/damage that was the issue. No real structural damage...which helped.

So, long story short, I had the same sort of problem with my shoulder.  I even went to a specialist who was going to operate.  It's not structural, as you say (like a roatator tear) but the capsule of the shoulder gets inflamed, and basically constricts around the ball of the arm bone.  Then cartilage forms and it restricts movement and causes pain.  The surgery basically "slices" the cartilage and removes the pressure, and rehab lets it heal in the "right place".   Well, I did rehab before the surgery, and was scheduled to do it after.  A week before the surgery, I got really bad poison ivy on both arms (if I can find the picture, I'll post, but it was GROSS) and because I needed steroids, they postponed the surgery.  I continued the physical therapy, and also used my wife's e stimulator (cue Beavis and Butthead snickers), and lo and behold, the shoulder got better.  I never did have the surgery, and while motion isn't 100%, it's damn near 90, and I don't do anything that would justify surgery for that last 100 (which they can't guarantee anyway). 
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Post by: gmillerdrake on May 26, 2021, 08:50:50 AM
Yeah, gimme a link to this e-stim thing - I'm not making the same mistake Tim did.  If it's working for you the way you say, I could go for something like that on a couple of spots that I have these nagging aches and pains (nothing as dramatic as yours, but they just won't go away).  I've been taking some muscle/joint supplements that are helping slowly/surely, but they ain't cheap.  They are also doing a good job at managing mrs.jingle's back muscle issues (recurring inflammation).

Just texted you a link. Will try to post one here when I get home.

This is what I bought and have used.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q32KX3J?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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Post by: v_clortho on May 26, 2021, 09:38:07 PM
That's not nearly as exciting as the things that came up when googling.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on May 27, 2021, 10:05:44 AM
From those of us who are over 50, news flash.  40 isn't old.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 02, 2021, 09:08:23 AM
From those of us who are over 50, news flash.  40 isn't old.
My body is screaming at me "50 is the new 70"
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 11, 2021, 06:24:42 AM
I dropped this in the Netflix thread, but then thought here might be the more appropriate place for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcOc8wL4k8

(https://media.tenor.com/images/ecd617167c536d359ae89cfdbf992fd4/tenor.gif)
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Post by: Snow Dog on June 11, 2021, 07:28:36 AM
I dropped this in the Netflix thread, but then thought here might be the more appropriate place for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcOc8wL4k8

(https://media.tenor.com/images/ecd617167c536d359ae89cfdbf992fd4/tenor.gif)

That background music had me half expecting He-Man to say, “Skeletor, you will not get away! I AM REALLY PISSED OFF!”

But man, talk about childhood nostalgia!
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 17, 2021, 12:23:53 PM
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!! We have purchased our retirement home in North Port Florida! I was getting worried because of the absolute insanity of the buying market right now. We lost out on 3 other homes that we had what seemed like extremely solid bids, all at least 30k over asking price. Luckily we didn't get any of those, because the one we got checked off a lot more boxes. One of the biggest being outdoor space and privacy. The lots on each side, behind, and in front are all empty. Here she is.....

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3571-Jade-St_North-Port_FL_34288_M68550-20392
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Post by: gmillerdrake on June 17, 2021, 01:00:20 PM
CONGRATS!!  :metal   Looks like a great home! That's exciting.
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Post by: cramx3 on June 17, 2021, 01:05:13 PM
Congrats! Enjoy the retirement life in Florida  :yarr
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 17, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
CONGRATS!!  :metal   Looks like a great home! That's exciting.
It is!  It was stressful as hell though.  We're in FL for 15 days, if we wouldn't have found something it probably would have been a buying sight unseen scenario.  Having to go back to Cali.  That was a scary notion.

Congrats! Enjoy the retirement life in Florida  :yarr
Thanks Brotha!
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 17, 2021, 01:18:26 PM
Sweet digs.  The pool/hot tub is nice!
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Post by: Chino on June 17, 2021, 01:23:26 PM
Those screened in pool rooms are so sick. The place looks great.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:40 PM
Wow, I didn't realize housing was that cheap in Florida.  Not a bad price in a sellers market.  :tup
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 17, 2021, 07:05:36 PM
Wow, I didn't realize housing was that cheap in Florida.  Not a bad price in a sellers market.  :tup
Well...... it's not quite that cheap.  Everything right now in our range is 20-50k over asking, I'll just leave it at that  :lol

That being said, I'm happy with our choice and the cost.
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Post by: LudwigVan on June 18, 2021, 09:12:34 AM
Congrats Crimson! That looks great! The color scheme in the lanai is cool/interesting.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 18, 2021, 09:19:26 AM
I'm jelly Crimson! Congrats!
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Post by: TAC on June 18, 2021, 09:24:05 AM
Wow that’s awesome. And so cheap!

I thought I saw an alligator in the pool.
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Post by: Dublagent66 on June 18, 2021, 10:17:06 AM
Wow, I didn't realize housing was that cheap in Florida.  Not a bad price in a sellers market.  :tup
Well...... it's not quite that cheap.  Everything right now in our range is 20-50k over asking, I'll just leave it at that  :lol

That being said, I'm happy with our choice and the cost.

Compared to places like Arizona, a house of roughly the same square footage (like mine) here is about 80k more right now.  I'd say you got a hell of a deal.
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 22, 2021, 07:26:31 AM
Sweet digs.  The pool/hot tub is nice!
  Yeah, our biggest priority was the outdoor living space.  The pool was recoated 2 years ago in pebble-tec complete with inlaid sea turtles and a mermaid at the bottom.  I'm a HUGE fan of hot tubs.  Out of our search we only saw 2 homes with them.


Congrats! Enjoy the retirement life in Florida  :yarr
Thanks Bro! 


Those screened in pool rooms are so sick. The place looks great.
Yeah the screens are a must to keep the bugs and other critters out.  Being surrounded by the empty lots is awesome from a privacy perspective.  The trade off is the critters that are surrounding us.  The old owners told us we will be pals with Raccooons, snakes, mice/rats, BOBCATS  :omg:.  As a matter of fact the gal said she has been out on the lanai and watched Bobcats just stroll through the backyard without a care in the world.  So having the screened in pool and lanai is a big plus.  I'm sure there will be a learning curve dealing with the critters.


Congrats Crimson! That looks great! The color scheme in the lanai is cool/interesting.
Thanks Ludwig!  Yeah the colors on the lanai are very... Floridian... :lol We think we will be OK with them.  If not...out comes the paint.


I'm jelly Crimson! Congrats!
Thanks Brotha!!!!


Wow that’s awesome. And so cheap!

I thought I saw an alligator in the pool.
  What's sad is the price hikes in the last 1.5 years.  This house a year ago would have probably been around 75k less than we bought it for.  That's nutz!  But that's the market everywhere right now.  Even though our place isn't really near any water we will still watch out for the gators!  :lol





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Post by: vtgrad on June 24, 2021, 12:29:36 PM
Congratulations Crimson!  Let use know when you Close and we'll send you some white shoes... make sure you wear them in all common areas.  :biggrin:  I'm looking for a Magic Pan nearby.

The Real Estate market is that insane even in my neck of Southwest VA... I'm seeing some things that I haven't seen since pre 2007 (escalation clauses, 20K-30K over asking price NOT winning the bid, etc).  FOMO is kicking in for certain and with rates where they are, I'm seeing some clients using all of their buying power just to make sure they get something.
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Post by: Chino on June 24, 2021, 12:35:26 PM


Those screened in pool rooms are so sick. The place looks great.
Yeah the screens are a must to keep the bugs and other critters out.  Being surrounded by the empty lots is awesome from a privacy perspective.  The trade off is the critters that are surrounding us.  The old owners told us we will be pals with Raccooons, snakes, mice/rats, BOBCATS  :omg:.  As a matter of fact the gal said she has been out on the lanai and watched Bobcats just stroll through the backyard without a care in the world.  So having the screened in pool and lanai is a big plus.  I'm sure there will be a learning curve dealing with the critters.



You should buy yourself a trail cam or two and put them around your property. It's a fun hobby and you'll be amazed at the wildlife you'll see stroll though. Setting one up at the base of a bird feeder will yield a lot of good results.
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Post by: cramx3 on June 24, 2021, 01:53:01 PM
I can tell you, the creatures in Florida are legit based on what my parents see since they moved there.

Also the time I found a black widow spider in my parents garage  :eek
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Post by: Stadler on June 24, 2021, 02:46:21 PM


Those screened in pool rooms are so sick. The place looks great.
Yeah the screens are a must to keep the bugs and other critters out.  Being surrounded by the empty lots is awesome from a privacy perspective.  The trade off is the critters that are surrounding us.  The old owners told us we will be pals with Raccooons, snakes, mice/rats, BOBCATS  :omg:.  As a matter of fact the gal said she has been out on the lanai and watched Bobcats just stroll through the backyard without a care in the world.  So having the screened in pool and lanai is a big plus.  I'm sure there will be a learning curve dealing with the critters.



You should buy yourself a trail cam or two and put them around your property. It's a fun hobby and you'll be amazed at the wildlife you'll see stroll though. Setting one up at the base of a bird feeder will yield a lot of good results.

What do you know about them?

I'm hopefully moving here in about two weeks and the driveway is a good 1/4 mile long.  I'm thinking of a trail cam down near the end.  How does it transmit?  Wireless?   
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Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 26, 2021, 08:21:38 AM

You should buy yourself a trail cam or two and put them around your property. It's a fun hobby and you'll be amazed at the wildlife you'll see stroll though. Setting one up at the base of a bird feeder will yield a lot of good results.
That could be fun!  Although... the Mrs. may not find it so intriguing  :lol  She is NOT a fan of some types of wildlife, like snakes.

Marc, Black widows are a staple here in SoCal.  I can walk out on my tiny condo patio right now and find one.  I had a guy at work years ago in the refinery that would go snatch a BW from it's lil low lying web at night and throw it into another BW web just to see them go at it.


Congratulations Crimson!  Let use know when you Close and we'll send you some white shoes... make sure you wear them in all common areas.  :biggrin:  I'm looking for a Magic Pan nearby.

The Real Estate market is that insane even in my neck of Southwest VA... I'm seeing some things that I haven't seen since pre 2007 (escalation clauses, 20K-30K over asking price NOT winning the bid, etc).  FOMO is kicking in for certain and with rates where they are, I'm seeing some clients using all of their buying power just to make sure they get something.
So true... the 2nd house we made an offer on was 31k over asking and a cash buyer (Damn flippers!) swooped in and got it.  Which now, I'm fine with because our place is much nicer, and cheaper.  You're right, for buyers there is a sense of desperation for sure right now.
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Post by: vtgrad on June 28, 2021, 12:55:07 PM
It all worked out for the best then!

FHFA is trying to "discourage" Investment and Second Home purchases to a degree with the new Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac restrictions regarding how many NOO (non owner occupied) properties that the GSEs will accept during any given month.  Rates are a bit higher for those types of transactions now. 

It isn't really working from what I've seen recently because those types of investors are just switching to cash purchases.  It is what it is...

Glad you snagged the one you wanted though! 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on June 28, 2021, 01:05:58 PM
From a local news source.

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A new report from Redfin found that over 4,000 Seattle homes have sold for over $100,000 above asking price in 2021...

In total, 4,078 homes in Seattle sold for between $100,000 and $300,000 over asking this year. In that same period in 2020, that number was at 362. The average home in the Seattle area has sold for almost $48,000 over asking price in 2021, up from $3,025 last year.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 28, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
Seller's market, for sure.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 28, 2021, 02:11:13 PM
Seller's market, for sure.

Everywhere.  Though, things seem to be cooling off a little around here.  Neighbour behind us had to drop their asking price, as they weren't getting hardly any nibbles.  In and around Toronto though, it's crazy.  It was bat-shit crazy a couple of months ago, now it's just Mariah Carey-crazy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 28, 2021, 02:50:24 PM
It was bat-shit crazy a couple of months ago, now it's just Mariah Carey-crazy.
lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 28, 2021, 03:11:02 PM
Seller's market, for sure.

Everywhere.  Though, things seem to be cooling off a little around here.  Neighbour behind us had to drop their asking price, as they weren't getting hardly any nibbles.  In and around Toronto though, it's crazy.  It was bat-shit crazy a couple of months ago, now it's just Mariah Carey-crazy.

IDK. She's a F$%&ing train wreck. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on June 29, 2021, 08:50:27 AM
Seller's market, for sure.

Everywhere.  Though, things seem to be cooling off a little around here.  Neighbour behind us had to drop their asking price, as they weren't getting hardly any nibbles.  In and around Toronto though, it's crazy.  It was bat-shit crazy a couple of months ago, now it's just Mariah Carey-crazy.

IDK. She's a F$%&ing train wreck. Lol

I'm seeing more train wreck transactions that normal for certain... bad lip synch on New Year's Eve type transactions.  A good example would be a seller refusing to let the Appraiser inspect the property because they're receiving cash offers outside of the Realtor/Current Contract relationship.  If a transaction has gotten to the point that I'm ordering an appraisal, there is a legally binding Purchase Contract that cannot be voided unless there is a breach of the contract terms or both parties agree to void that sitting contract.  A seller can't just back-out of a ratified contract because they're receiving higher offers through FB.

In the case I mention above, the seller was hostile to the Appraiser and threatened him with bodily harm if he didn't leave the property (a first in my 20-years)... the Appraisal Management Company (these are another train wreck altogether) arbitrarily cancelled the order and is refusing to accept any other orders for this particular property.  The buyer, my client, is now suing the seller for performance and the Realtors involved are completely silent. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on June 29, 2021, 09:55:23 AM
Judging by zillow, my house was going up like 4% every month for awhile and now it's only up 1% the last month.  Might be a sign the market is cooling off a bit locally.  Also two houses down for me just sold for the asking price (well, it's under contract so we will see) so another sign that maybe things are cooling down.  I can't believe people would buy a house without inspection.  I also can't believe so many people have large amounts of cash to afford to do this. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 29, 2021, 01:58:37 PM
Judging by zillow, my house was going up like 4% every month for awhile and now it's only up 1% the last month.  Might be a sign the market is cooling off a bit locally.  Also two houses down for me just sold for the asking price (well, it's under contract so we will see) so another sign that maybe things are cooling down.  I can't believe people would buy a house without inspection.  I also can't believe so many people have large amounts of cash to afford to do this.
In the research we did the general consensus was the price increases would slow, but still trend up through '22.  Also, interest rates would slowly trend up.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2021, 09:00:50 PM
So this just came up on my Youtube feed. I've never heard of Jeff Allen but I was fucking crying laughing for 40 minutes. It belongs in the Fogey Thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqjhCC4sP4Q
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on August 23, 2021, 02:39:16 PM
60!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 02:41:23 PM
Happy Birthday old man!

Welcome back!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2021, 02:47:37 PM
Happy Birthday mate, great to see you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 23, 2021, 03:07:57 PM
Happy birthday Gregg!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 03:10:44 PM
60!

(http://replygif.net/i/244.gif)

I was literally just thinking yesterday, 'where the fuck has Gregg been??'
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 03:11:21 PM
Bam..and like that, he's gone again.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on August 23, 2021, 03:12:04 PM
60!
:tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 03:14:22 PM
Bam..and like that, he's gone again.

My 2nd fave movie of all time

(https://c.tenor.com/n56WNgm5WzkAAAAC/and-like-that-hes-gone-the-usual-suspects.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 03:15:50 PM
Bam..and like that, he's gone again.

My 2nd fave movie of all time

(https://c.tenor.com/n56WNgm5WzkAAAAC/and-like-that-hes-gone-the-usual-suspects.gif)

The Usual Suspects?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2021, 03:23:10 PM
60!

(http://replygif.net/i/244.gif)

I was literally just thinking yesterday, 'where the fuck has Gregg been??'

Lol, a Karl Stefanovic gif.  Now I've seen it all.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
I watch that guy all the time on Youtube. He's hilarious.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 04:01:00 PM
Bam..and like that, he's gone again.

My 2nd fave movie of all time

(https://c.tenor.com/n56WNgm5WzkAAAAC/and-like-that-hes-gone-the-usual-suspects.gif)

The Usual Suspects?

Hell yeah
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2021, 05:58:42 PM
I watch that guy all the time on Youtube. He's hilarious.

Sometimes I find him amusing, but other times I want to kick him in the head.  It's complicated.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 06:00:06 PM
I watch that guy all the time on Youtube. He's hilarious.

Sometimes I find him amusing, but other times I want to kick him in the head.  It's complicated.

Yeah, I can see that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2021, 02:35:26 PM
Ain't this the truth.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fT60ygNR/FB-IMG-1631738045798.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Chino on September 15, 2021, 02:39:01 PM
I'm getting a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'm not old enough to meet the entry requirements for this thread, but I'm making myself an honorary member starting 22 minutes from now when I have to drink the first bottle of that poo inducer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 15, 2021, 02:40:59 PM
You'll be shittin purple through the eye of a needle by 10:30.   :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 15, 2021, 02:48:40 PM
You'll be shittin purple through the eye of a needle by 10:30.   :metal
There's a song there somewhere.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 15, 2021, 02:53:06 PM
I'd heard horror stories about the colonoscopy prep.  I took two days off of work; one for the op itself and the preceding day to spend on the toilet in agony.  Supposedly after all the solid matter is cleared out (first one or two trips), things continue in liquid format for the next several hours.  Diarrhea is easily one of my least-favorite experiences, so this sounded completely horrible.  I made sure I had plenty of cannibus on hand, to help ease the suffering to whatever small degree it could.

It was nothing.  Because this wasn't "normal" diarrhea brought on by some kind of bug or gastrointestinal issue, there was none of the accompanying distress and discomfort.  Just several trips to the can, shitting out liquid instead of solid for a few minutes, then back to watching TV or playing on the PC.  Completely painless.  Annoying for sure, but not the horrible experience I was expecting.  As far as I can tell, the magic formula they had me drink simply fooled my bowels into passing everything through the normally solid-only channel, and by around 4:00 in the afternoon, it was over.  Then I was hungry until after the op the next morning because I couldn't eat anything and was totally empty inside.  But that was actually the worst part, and hey, I've been hungry before so no big deal.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2021, 02:55:56 PM
Ain't this the truth.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fT60ygNR/FB-IMG-1631738045798.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) (https://postimages.org/)

So true!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on September 15, 2021, 02:56:58 PM
You'll be shittin purple through the eye of a needle by 10:30.   :metal
There's a song there somewhere.

Eminem's already released it I think.  "shittin through needles all round me outside, round me outside, round me outside" 

No worries Chino... had my first one at 35 (family history) and it wasn't so bad.  Just make sure you have wet-ones around you at all times.  Toilet paper is not your friend.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2021, 03:01:43 PM
You'll be shittin purple through the eye of a needle by 10:30.   :metal

The night before is worse than the actual procedure. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2021, 03:13:41 PM
Yeah, once I got past being hungry the day before, I was fine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2021, 03:21:53 PM
Yeah, once I got past being hungry the day before, I was fine.

The drink and the 3 hours of the bathroom was what I was talking about. Green water out of your ass begging it to stop.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
Yeah, once I got past being hungry the day before, I was fine.

The drink and the 3 hours of the bathroom was what I was talking about. Green water out of your ass begging it to stop.

I don't remember that, honestly.

I did have a sigmoidoscope once and I had to give myself an enema the night before.
I must've done a good job with it, because while the doctor was scoping me he kept saying how clean I was. Even called it "remarkable". :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2021, 04:01:52 PM
 :lol

That drink makes you clean your bowels. I looked like Jeff Daniel's in Dumb & Dumber.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 15, 2021, 06:43:01 PM
I had a huge breakfast the morning of the cleanse, and then a few packs of jello and a can or two of consomme soup - I didn't really have a lot of hunger.  Like Bob said, the cleansing wasn't painful, just a lot of trips.  Apparently my brother had a rough go of it though, he dehydrated himself so much he passed out and SIL took him to emerg.  Fuckin idiot.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: v_clortho on September 15, 2021, 08:07:23 PM
Wait?! So there was a time when you weren't full of shit?    :D

Yeah, once I got past being hungry the day before, I was fine.

The drink and the 3 hours of the bathroom was what I was talking about. Green water out of your ass begging it to stop.

I don't remember that, honestly.

I did have a sigmoidoscope once and I had to give myself an enema the night before.
I must've done a good job with it, because while the doctor was scoping me he kept saying how clean I was. Even called it "remarkable". :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2021, 08:11:44 PM
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Post by: v_clortho on September 15, 2021, 08:34:57 PM
That is disturbing.
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Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2021, 05:19:00 AM
Wait?! So there was a time when you weren't full of shit?    :D

(https://i.gifer.com/NGwV.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kotowboy on September 16, 2021, 06:05:41 AM
I'm 43 in November :)

But I have this saying if I start getting worried that " Imagine you were 95 years old and one day you woke up and magically you were 43 again. How amazing that would be..."

Some people would do anything to be 43 again. I need to stop settling for minimum wage jobs that kill me and do my depression zero favours.

I've had too many now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 16, 2021, 10:37:30 AM
I'm getting a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'm not old enough to meet the entry requirements for this thread, but I'm making myself an honorary member starting 22 minutes from now when I have to drink the first bottle of that poo inducer.

Who convinced you to get a roto-rooter job at age 32?  :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Chino on September 20, 2021, 05:53:07 AM
I'm getting a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'm not old enough to meet the entry requirements for this thread, but I'm making myself an honorary member starting 22 minutes from now when I have to drink the first bottle of that poo inducer.

Who convinced you to get a roto-rooter job at age 32?  :lol :rollin :lol

A doctor.   



That whole procedure was a breeze. Maybe it's because I only consume 1400ish calories a day as it is, but cleaning me out was no problem. Getting knocked out for it was super weird. It was like someone snapped their fingers and I was teleported to a different place and time. The whole thing was instantaneous.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on September 20, 2021, 06:21:14 AM
That whole procedure was a breeze. Maybe it's because I only consume 1400ish calories a day as it is, but cleaning me out was no problem. Getting knocked out for it was super weird. It was like someone snapped their fingers and I was teleported to a different place and time. The whole thing was instantaneous.

I had eye surgery when I was 16 and don't remember much of being knocked out.   I had my wisdom teeth removed when I was 25 or 26 and remember the whole thing.  I was really nervous and told the doctor to let me know when he was knocking me out.   He's like "yeah, sure, don't worry, I'll let you know....just relax and count backward from 100."

Me:  100, 99.....ASLEEP.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ReaperKK on September 20, 2021, 06:46:18 AM
That whole procedure was a breeze. Maybe it's because I only consume 1400ish calories a day as it is, but cleaning me out was no problem. Getting knocked out for it was super weird. It was like someone snapped their fingers and I was teleported to a different place and time. The whole thing was instantaneous.

I had eye surgery when I was 16 and don't remember much of being knocked out.   I had my wisdom teeth removed when I was 25 or 26 and remember the whole thing.  I was really nervous and told the doctor to let me know when he was knocking me out.   He's like "yeah, sure, don't worry, I'll let you know....just relax and count backward from 100."

Me:  100, 99.....ASLEEP.

I had sinus surgery a few years ago and it was my first time going under and it was just like you guys mentioned. They told me "We're going to give you some oxygen" and I said ok and boom nothing. What was interesting was that it wasn't like sleep, it just nothing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2021, 06:46:52 AM
That whole procedure was a breeze. Maybe it's because I only consume 1400ish calories a day as it is, but cleaning me out was no problem. Getting knocked out for it was super weird. It was like someone snapped their fingers and I was teleported to a different place and time. The whole thing was instantaneous.

I had eye surgery when I was 16 and don't remember much of being knocked out.   I had my wisdom teeth removed when I was 25 or 26 and remember the whole thing.  I was really nervous and told the doctor to let me know when he was knocking me out.   He's like "yeah, sure, don't worry, I'll let you know....just relax and count backward from 100."

Me:  100, 99.....ASLEEP.

For my colonoscopy, I think I made it to 98.

They might as well say "count back from 4".   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on September 20, 2021, 03:45:11 PM
I don't think I even started counting.

I do remember the doc coming into the recovery room. He smiled and said, "All's good. See you in five years." He then handed me a snack sized Hershey bar.

I exclaimed, "Where'd you find that?!"

It's the only time I have ever seen that man smile.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 20, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
I'm getting a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'm not old enough to meet the entry requirements for this thread, but I'm making myself an honorary member starting 22 minutes from now when I have to drink the first bottle of that poo inducer.

Who convinced you to get a roto-rooter job at age 32?  :lol :rollin :lol

A doctor.   



That whole procedure was a breeze. Maybe it's because I only consume 1400ish calories a day as it is, but cleaning me out was no problem. Getting knocked out for it was super weird. It was like someone snapped their fingers and I was teleported to a different place and time. The whole thing was instantaneous.

Why?  Are you high risk?  Most doctors don't recommend it until at least age 50.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on September 21, 2021, 05:09:31 AM
I have a colonoscopy coming up 2nd week of October.  My ONLY plus of having an Esophagectomy is I qualify for the low volume prep for a colonoscopy.  So no drinking a gallon of crud!!!!!   :metal
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on September 21, 2021, 06:44:55 AM
The other thing about that sleep - by the way, I'm not sure I made it to 99, and I was fighting it (I was scared, not going to lie) - was when I woke up, I was UP.  There was no grogginess, none of that "adjustment" like when you wake up from a normal sleep.   I can absolutely see why Michael Jackson would want to be pumped up with that shit if he couldn't sleep otherwise.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on September 21, 2021, 09:26:22 AM
The other thing about that sleep - by the way, I'm not sure I made it to 99, and I was fighting it (I was scared, not going to lie) - was when I woke up, I was UP.  There was no grogginess, none of that "adjustment" like when you wake up from a normal sleep.   I can absolutely see why Michael Jackson would want to be pumped up with that shit if he couldn't sleep otherwise.

I only went under once, and I remember the hospital saying to make sure I had a ride home because you shouldn't drive afterwards due to the effects of waking back up.  But I also felt perfectly awake and fine.  Definitely could have driven.  Also, I didn't make it far into the count either before being out  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Lax on September 21, 2021, 09:39:48 AM
Hey, I'm 40 in october, I do naps and sleep badly at night...I guess I can join the club !
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 21, 2021, 11:24:55 AM
Hey, I'm 40 in october, I do naps and sleep badly at night...I guess I can join the club !

Qualifications check out.  Welcome sir! :lol

53 years old and I've woken up 6 to 8 times a night the last 4 days.  I can't tell you why.  I just don't get it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Snow Dog on September 21, 2021, 11:32:15 AM
I've woken up 6 to 8 times a night the last 4 days.  I can't tell you why.  I just don't get it.

This sucks when you get in stretches like this. I’m 41 and have had this problem recently as well, but I can at least blame it on a newborn who’s been painfully gassy as all hell at night waking me up every hour.

That notwithstanding, I’ve had this happen several times before and it definitely is no fun. My sympathies, King. Hope it resolves soon!
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 21, 2021, 11:39:23 AM
Thanks.  It drives me crazy because I am tired going to bed, then I wake up 2 hours later and then it happens the rest of the night.  It kills that deep REM sleep I need.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 21, 2021, 01:53:08 PM
My problem isn't staying asleep.  It's getting to bed early.  Just can't seem to do it.  Night owl here.  During the week, it's about 5 1/2 to 6 hours a night tops.  However, I usually sleep straight through unless I wake up on rare occasions to take a piss.  Then, right back to sleep.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 21, 2021, 02:11:22 PM
Colonoscopy-I had a colonoscopy not quite 10 years ago. I remember getting the anesthesia, but I was still aware when the guy started. He said your going to feel a little pressure. I looked up at the screen, and I asked, "Is that me??. He said "yes" and that's all I remember.



Sleep- I work 5am-1pm. My alarm goes off at 3:55am. I try and get to bed by 10:30, but no later than 11:00. 2-3 times a week, I take an hour nap after work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2021, 02:58:33 PM
I'm 37 and in bed by 9.00 each night.  I try and get 7-8 hours of sleep.  My schedule is a little random though, sometimes up at 4 but sometimes can sleep in til 6.

Trying to stay up much past 9.00 these days is near impossible.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2021, 02:59:32 PM
Thanks.  It drives me crazy because I am tired going to bed, then I wake up 2 hours later and then it happens the rest of the night.  It kills that deep REM sleep I need.

I've experienced this a few times lately.  It's almost crippling the next day.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2021, 03:00:24 PM
Colonoscopy-I had a colonoscopy not quite 10 years ago. I remember getting the anesthesia, but I was still aware when the guy started. He said your going to feel a little pressure. I looked up at the screen, and I asked, "Is that me??. He said "yes" and that's all I remember.



Sleep- I work 5am-1pm. My alarm goes off at 3:55am. I try and get to bed by 10:30, but no later than 11:00. 2-3 times a week, I take an hour nap after work.

Wow, sometimes 5 hours of sleep?  Beast mode.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 21, 2021, 04:07:25 PM
Get outta this thread, youngling!!   :lol

I’m normally a 6-7 hr sleeper, usually straight thru. As long as I squirt right before bed, I’m usually good thru ‘til morning. I can’t sleep more than 8 hrs... my body just aches if I go that long. My biggest issue is if I wake up anytime after about 5 hours of sleep, rarely can I get back to sleep.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 21, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
I usually get up to piss once or twice a night, but it's due to drinking beers.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2021, 04:24:15 PM
Get outta this thread, youngling!!   :lol

I’m normally a 6-7 hr sleeper, usually straight thru. As long as I squirt right before bed, I’m usually good thru ‘til morning. I can’t sleep more than 8 hrs... my body just aches if I go that long. My biggest issue is if I wake up anytime after about 5 hours of sleep, rarely can I get back to sleep.

Hey, I'm old at heart.  ;D
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Post by: TAC on September 22, 2021, 01:21:06 PM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on September 22, 2021, 01:42:01 PM
I'm getting a colonoscopy tomorrow. I'm not old enough to meet the entry requirements for this thread, but I'm making myself an honorary member starting 22 minutes from now when I have to drink the first bottle of that poo inducer.

Who convinced you to get a roto-rooter job at age 32?  :lol :rollin :lol

A doctor.   



That whole procedure was a breeze. Maybe it's because I only consume 1400ish calories a day as it is, but cleaning me out was no problem. Getting knocked out for it was super weird. It was like someone snapped their fingers and I was teleported to a different place and time. The whole thing was instantaneous.

Why?  Are you high risk?  Most doctors don't recommend it until at least age 50.
Risk factors, I'd assume. In my situation, barring a damn fine rationale, I'll ignore any requests to do so. The truth is my eventual cause of death is probably reasonably well known at this point, and I have zero risk factors that I know of. Colorectal cancer would have to take a number.

As for being knocked out, he didn't ask me to count. I think I heard somebody say "goodnight" and then I woke up 21 hours later. According to my folks I was semi-conscious for a few minutes after about 12, but confused and grouchy. Wasn't lucid until 0700 the following day. Highlight for me was the preceding 20 minutes being fucked up on Midazolam. That stuff rules.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 22, 2021, 01:59:48 PM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.

For your diabetus?  Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 22, 2021, 02:02:13 PM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.

For your diabetus?  Lol

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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2021, 02:05:21 PM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.

I eat oats just about everyday.  Love them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Lax on September 30, 2021, 07:32:53 AM
I am a foreman and project manager for a finish carpentry, I have 15 construction sites.
Plus a 3 years old daughter.

I'm just exhausted, and wake up around 4-5am from stress. (I work 7am to 6pm mon-fri).
Weeks are all the same and I feel like being a zombie.

But on the other hand, only 40 years of our life is dedicated to working !
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 30, 2021, 08:53:36 AM
Work is the necessary evil for all but the very fortunate.  What counts is what you do with the rest of your time.

I too feel tired and sore most of the time.  It's become the norm, I guess.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on September 30, 2021, 03:44:41 PM
Got two options that may work for the sleeping stuff:

1)... KIN Dreamlight (the online store that starts with an A): mix two ounces with an equal amount of Oat Milk and you'll feel the draw-down in about 60-minutes.  Have to say that this stuff slams me out for 8-hours without waking up and gives VIVID dreams.  I actually had a lucid dream one night with this stuff.  Stick with 2oz and you'll get around 10-servings.  I wouldn't use it every night.

2)... Laird Hamilton's Renew Rest & Recover: 10 servings for a bit less of a price.  Works very well (though not as vivid as KIN).

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 04:18:07 PM
So we were putting together our Christmas card and were picking out pictures. My wife finds one of the family, and I was like "No, I look like I'm farting in that picture."
To which my smart ass 18 y/o says.."All 50 year old guys look like they're farting." :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 05, 2021, 06:31:34 PM
I would let him know he's so right every time he's sprawled out on a couch.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on December 05, 2021, 06:33:01 PM
 :lol

Smell ya later!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 05, 2021, 06:40:30 PM
Every time, I rip one on him. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 05, 2021, 07:26:13 PM
That's when you teach the lesson of crop dusting!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on December 12, 2021, 06:36:15 PM
I turn 40 in about 17 months.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on December 12, 2021, 08:39:03 PM
Get the funk out of here, you little punk!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on December 12, 2021, 08:49:15 PM
Get the funk out of here, you little punk!

I feel 50 does that count :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on December 13, 2021, 09:09:54 AM
Sorry, no.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: faizoff on December 13, 2021, 09:23:56 AM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.

I have it every day during the week, I love that shit. I think it's partly due to me growing up as a kid eating and loving it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on December 17, 2021, 09:16:54 AM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.

I have it every day during the week, I love that shit. I think it's partly due to me growing up as a kid eating and loving it.

I have it for my first meal of the day too... normally around 3PM (I fast).  I toast the oats in the oven first for about 5-minutes, then add 2 TBSPs dry quinoa, a good pinch of salt, and everything goes on low stovetop heat in a pot with pour-over boiling water (let sit at low heat about 18-minutes).  The result is nutty and quite awesome!  Pour over a TBSP or three of Maple Syrup and add a bit of good butter and chomp.

The maple syrup doesn't do much for the diabetus...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on December 17, 2021, 09:42:27 AM
I had oatmeal for breakfast this morning.

I have it every day during the week, I love that shit. I think it's partly due to me growing up as a kid eating and loving it.

I like oatmeal, but every morning?  After a while it would get pretty old.  Would have to mix it up a bit.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on December 17, 2021, 09:58:44 AM
My week:

Sunday - carried something heavy and had a sore back from lifting.
Monday - Spent all day in my desk chair, working.  Must have sat in an awkward position due to my sore back.
Wednesday evening - Sat on the couch with poor posture.  Went to lay down in bed and had pain radiating throughout my right lower back, right hip and right leg.  Barely slept.
Thursday - see a doctor after dealing with back and leg pain all day.  Doctor felt my right leg and said "you have the tightest IT band I've ever felt, congratulations."   :lol

I have IT band syndrome from sitting with poor posture and not being active enough.  I occasionally have some sore back issues that are posture related a few times a year.  But the IT band being tight (a muscle that runs alongside your leg) created less mobility in my back, leading to back strain when I lifted a heavy object.  Each issue (back and leg) was then causing the other.   :facepalm:

Muscle relaxers, naproxen, heating pads and stretching.  The muscle relaxers helped overnight and I just have to try and get up and take breaks to stretch and move my leg a bit. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
Don't forget to roll those IT bad boys out.  Works wonders.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zydar on December 29, 2021, 05:42:16 AM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 29, 2021, 05:48:27 AM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 29, 2021, 08:03:01 AM
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https://youtu.be/4jxV3OTe2B0
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 22, 2022, 07:00:22 PM
First Fogey Thread post of 2022.


Sometimes I feel like such an asshole. I fucking mock EVERYTHING in my head that I read.


I don't get it.

How many fucking characters can we make up in Star Wars and make a series out of?

Is it possible to have a tiktok video and it not be viral? Because someone doesn't froth your frappachino, do you have to make a video about it?


THIS is Batman!

(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_23/2033316/170610-crop-adam-west-batman-3-ew-1156a.jpg)

and THIS is how he climbs a building!

(https://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/43100000/Batman-Robin-Climbing-whatsupbugs-43193182-423-231.gif)


Who the hell would use doordash? Are you too fucking lazy to go to McDonald's?

When a guy makes a tackle does he have to act like a jackass?

I just popped into the Amazing Race Thread. People....you watch that??

I'm sorry that you guys miss Meat Loaf, but he was one of the worst concert experiences I've ever had. Sorry. Fuck him.


Ugh. I've been bitchy lately.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2022, 08:30:30 PM
Ugh. I've been bitchy lately.

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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: DragonAttack on January 22, 2022, 11:26:29 PM
^
That made me do a spittake :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2022, 02:57:49 AM

I'm sorry that you guys miss Meat Loaf, but he was one of the worst concert experiences I've ever had. Sorry. Fuck him.


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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2022, 05:36:33 AM
You know, maybe someday 1980 will kick Tim out of the house so he can come and join us in the 21st century.

How many fucking characters can we make up in Star Wars and make a series out of?
Star Wars is a whole galaxy/universe dude.  Infinite.  That's your answer ... there's an infinite amount of characters.  Star Wars is more than just Luke/Leia/Han/Chewie/RD/3PO.

Is it possible to have a tiktok video and it not be viral?
Yes.  I'd gather there are a few hundred million TT videos out there.

THIS is Batman!
*snip Adam West photos*
Dude ... this is one adaptation from the comics.  Even the comics have lots of different Batman's

Who the hell would use doordash? Are you too fucking lazy to go to McDonald's?
  You live in America.  I think you know your answer

When a guy makes a tackle does he have to act like a jackass?
NFL ... you watch that??

I just popped into the Amazing Race Thread. People....you watch that??
  You don't watch ANYTHING (other than sports), so you're not standing on firm ground with your mockery of anything on TV.

I'm sorry that you guys miss Meat Loaf, but he was one of the worst concert experiences I've ever had. Sorry. Fuck him.
  I can't even mock this.  Seriously, the day after the guy dies??
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 23, 2022, 06:35:09 AM
Jesus Tim.  You make Crankshaft seem docile.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 08:10:40 AM
Alright Chad. I take back the Fuck him part.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 08:11:16 AM
Jesus Tim.  You make Crankshaft seem docile.


Man I was aggravated last night. It’s a me problem.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2022, 10:00:58 AM
Alright Chad. I take back the Fuck him part.

That’s fair.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 23, 2022, 02:43:39 PM
Who the hell would use doordash? Are you too fucking lazy to go to McDonald's?

I do (not DD so much, but Uber Eats and Postmates).  Let's see...I have a limited amount of time on my days off, and they constantly send me coupons that basically negate all the delivery fees.  So...I could take the time to go there or have it delivered for about the same price.  Have you ever gotten a pizza delivered?  Was it because you were too lazy?


I just popped into the Amazing Race Thread. People....you watch that??

Damn right I do.  Have you EVER watched even a single episode?

Thin Lizzy...you listen to that??


Ugh. I've been bitchy lately.

Get yourself some Midol, man....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2022, 02:52:04 PM
I thought the post was entertaining.....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2022, 02:54:37 PM
I don't get the whole food delivery thing.  The young staff do it all the time.  The fuckers have half an hour off during their shift, drive to work so they have their own transport and spend delivery money for food that is literally a 2 minute fucking drive around the corner because they are too funking lazy.  Blows my mind the money just pissed up a wall.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 02:57:21 PM
Who the hell would use doordash? Are you too fucking lazy to go to McDonald's?

I do (not DD so much, but Uber Eats and Postmates).  Let's see...I have a limited amount of time on my days off, and they constantly send me coupons that basically negate all the delivery fees.  So...I could take the time to go there or have it delivered for about the same price.  Have you ever gotten a pizza delivered?  Was it because you were too lazy?


I never get delivery. But at least if I got a pizza delivered, it's an employee of where I ordered it from. I order pizza for my kids every Friday night, and I always go pick it up.

But I would never use a Doordash type thingy. Having my family's food delivered by a complete stranger (which I classify differently than the complete stranger that at least works at the establishment). Is the guy a smoker? How many stops before he gets to me? Food Safety? My wife and I were at a restaurant a few couple of months ago, and a (I'll just call him a doordash guy) doordash guy comes in to grab an order, but it's not ready. So he sits at the bar and orders a shot and a beer while he waits.

Obviously, I'm not looking at shut-ins or the disabled.




YES I have seen The Amazing Race. My wife LOVES the show. But I guess I was really using it as a euphemism for all reality shows.

BTW, Thin Lizzy!! :metal   ;D

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 23, 2022, 03:01:57 PM
YES I have seen The Amazing Race. My wife LOVES the show. But I guess I was really using it as a euphemism for all reality shows.

I don't even think of TAR as a "reality" show.  It's a competition/travel show.  When people start acting like what I consider to be "reality TV," I get annoyed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
YES I have seen The Amazing Race. My wife LOVES the show. But I guess I was really using it as a euphemism for all reality shows.

I don't even think of TAR as a "reality" show.  It's a competition/travel show.  When people start acting like what I consider to be "reality TV," I get annoyed.

OK, so now we're just a couple of dudes having a chat over a beer....

It is a reality show though. Like I said, my wife loves it. I walked into the bedroom and she had it on, and the contestants were waving flags of some sort. I don't know.

I think I get upset because I feel like, what am I missing? Then I watch two minutes of a show like that and I have my answer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 23, 2022, 03:13:35 PM
YES I have seen The Amazing Race. My wife LOVES the show. But I guess I was really using it as a euphemism for all reality shows.

I don't even think of TAR as a "reality" show.  It's a competition/travel show.  When people start acting like what I consider to be "reality TV," I get annoyed.

OK, so now we're just a couple of dudes having a chat over a beer....

It is a reality show though. Like I said, my wife loves it. I walked into the bedroom and she had it on, and the contestants were waving flags of some sort. I don't know.

I think I get upset because I feel like, what am I missing? Then I watch two minutes of a show like that and I have my answer.

It's characterized as "reality TV," but the distinction I draw is that it's ultimately a competition, and the winner is determined by objective skill and performance, as opposed to something like Survivor.  My wife loves Survivor, but the only thing I watch is when they do challenges.  At the end of the day, though, Survivor is nothing but a popularity contest.  I think most or all other "reality" shows are either the same or aren't even competitions, and I wouldn't dream of watching that stuff.  I don't get it, and I don't understand why people watch it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 03:15:48 PM
It's characterized as "reality TV," but the distinction I draw is that it's ultimately a competition, and the winner is determined by objective skill and performance, as opposed to something like Survivor.  My wife loves Survivor, but the only thing I watch is when they do challenges.  At the end of the day, though, Survivor is nothing but a popularity contest.  I think most or all other "reality" shows are either the same or aren't even competitions, and I wouldn't dream of watching that stuff. I don't get it, and I don't understand why people watch it.


Welcome to the club!!  ;D



I understand the distinction that you are making. I do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 23, 2022, 06:43:08 PM
I would never use one of those food delivery services. From what I understand, the restaurants get burned badly on what they earn from those. I mean, Domino's has those commercials where they were giving away coupons to local mom and pop's who were getting torched by delivery services. I don't like Domino's, but they got some respect from me for doing that and telling people, 'Hey, don't use those services', essentially. They were telling people to order right from the place of business.

Pizza is a different thing because, like TAC said, the actual place of business is handling everything.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 23, 2022, 06:53:25 PM
Not every restaurant has direct ordering, and relatively few offer delivery.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 06:55:47 PM
Not every restaurant has direct ordering, and relatively few offer delivery.

But that would never be an option for me anyway. If I buy food at a restaurant, I want it served hot while I'm sitting there. I just can't eat a meal that's been driven to me for who know how many stops in a styrofoam container.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: DragonAttack on January 23, 2022, 07:07:17 PM
Not every restaurant has direct ordering, and relatively few offer delivery.

But that would never be an option for me anyway. If I buy food at a restaurant, I want it served hot while I'm sitting there. I just can't eat a meal that's been driven to me for who know how many stops in a styrofoam container.

Tim....this isn't the 80s  ;) You can follow their travel route on your cell phone. You'll know where they are at any given moment.   Oops, uhm, you do own one of those cell phone thingys, don't you? :D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 07:12:40 PM
Not every restaurant has direct ordering, and relatively few offer delivery.

But that would never be an option for me anyway. If I buy food at a restaurant, I want it served hot while I'm sitting there. I just can't eat a meal that's been driven to me for who know how many stops in a styrofoam container.

Tim....this isn't the 80s  ;) You can follow their travel route on your cell phone. You'll know where they are at any given moment.   Oops, uhm, you do own one of those cell phone thingys, don't you? :D

Hah! The only route I want it to travel is from the oven to my table. Besides, I pick up whatever I order anyway. I realize it's not hunting and gathering, but I never even consider delivery. Meanwhile some dude is standing at my door waiting for a tip....for doing his job.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2022, 07:39:00 PM
Not every restaurant has direct ordering, and relatively few offer delivery.

But that would never be an option for me anyway. If I buy food at a restaurant, I want it served hot while I'm sitting there. I just can't eat a meal that's been driven to me for who know how many stops in a styrofoam container.

I agree.  It just feels weird to me too mate.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ReaperKK on January 24, 2022, 06:31:54 AM
I don't get the whole food delivery thing.  The young staff do it all the time.  The fuckers have half an hour off during their shift, drive to work so they have their own transport and spend delivery money for food that is literally a 2 minute fucking drive around the corner because they are too funking lazy.  Blows my mind the money just pissed up a wall.

I don't do the doordash thing because I'm cheap and also because I don't like getting cold food. At lot of third party delivery people will make multiple stops to make it worth it to them so your food can just be sitting in the car getting cold, which wish fast food the shelf life is already short as it is.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 24, 2022, 06:40:32 AM
God dammit, TAC.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 24, 2022, 06:45:44 AM
My forehead is bruised from reading all of the posts from Tim here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2022, 02:34:25 PM
My forehead is bruised from reading all of the posts from Tim here.

And he didn't even mention Power Windows!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 24, 2022, 02:36:08 PM
My forehead is bruised from reading all of the posts from Tim here.

And he didn't even mention Power Windows!

Yeah! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 24, 2022, 02:40:00 PM
My forehead is bruised from reading all of the posts from Tim here.

And he didn't even mention Power Windows!

It'd be better to talk about things that don't suck.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on January 24, 2022, 02:49:21 PM
After careful consideration from reading recent posts, I've come to the conclusion that Timmy poo needs a group hug.  :hug:  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2022, 02:56:52 PM
My forehead is bruised from reading all of the posts from Tim here.

And he didn't even mention Power Windows!

It'd be better to talk about things that don't suck.

Like winning a coin flip?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on January 24, 2022, 10:04:21 PM
It has never once occurred to me to have anything other than a pizza delivered. And the last couple times I ordered pizza, I went and picked it up, or more likely, picked it up as the last segment of a multi-stop trip. We don't order take-out often, but have more recently since Covid hit to help support restaurants, and every time it was just a given I would go pick it up. I don't think it crossed my wife's mind either.
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Post by: chknptpie on January 25, 2022, 05:52:50 AM
*xennial who loves ordering food delivery quickly exits*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on January 25, 2022, 06:46:04 AM
I thought the post was entertaining.....

Not going to lie; other than the DoorDash and the Meat Loaf thing (I never saw him live, so there's that), I'm kinda with Tim on all of those.  Certainly with the "I mock everything in my head" line.  Holy shit, I do that constantly.   My wife and I even have a sort of joke/signal; we'll watch something on TV and it will be something I've mocked before and I just have to look at her.   It's amazing to me how many metaphorical deep breaths I have to take in a given day.
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2022, 01:21:28 PM
I thought the post was entertaining.....

Not going to lie; other than the DoorDash and the Meat Loaf thing (I never saw him live, so there's that), I'm kinda with Tim on all of those.  Certainly with the "I mock everything in my head" line.  Holy shit, I do that constantly.   My wife and I even have a sort of joke/signal; we'll watch something on TV and it will be something I've mocked before and I just have to look at her.   It's amazing to me how many metaphorical deep breaths I have to take in a given day.

Oh yeah, I relate too, I'm a total asshole.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 25, 2022, 01:44:12 PM
From all my delivery experiences, I can't recall ever getting cold food TBH.  Maybe not hot out of the oven hot, but hot enough to not need to be reheated. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 25, 2022, 04:19:07 PM
Ya, I use DoorDash a few time a month when I'm stranded at the office with no one else around (gotta keep the doors open for drop by customers and deliveries). Not once have I had cold food. It's literally delivered within minutes of pickup at the restaurant. The "supposing" (different than reality) going on in this thread is pretty "old as mold club" though, and I find it amusing.

If it's new fangled, it's bad! :getoffmylawn:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 25, 2022, 04:51:20 PM
Totally agree.  I live in an area covered by both DoorDash and GrubHub, and a lot of places around here have their own delivery.  I thinks it's great.  I've gone several days in a row without ever leaving the house, probably a week or more a few times since Covid.  The less I have to leave the house and interact with other people, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

Would I rather be sitting in an actual restaurant, being served and waited on, especially for the money I'm paying?  Maybe.  But that's not reality right now.  Instead, I'll pay to have them bring it to me.  The delivery charges come out to about the same as I'd tip a decent server, so it's all the same, and there's also a nice upside to sitting on my butt in front of the TV eating a good meal delivered to me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 25, 2022, 04:59:34 PM
O, if Covid is keeping you in, then fine. You do what you have to do. I wouldn't wish you risking going out and well, a man's gotta eat.


P, That's great that you've had good experiences. I'm sure you're in a nice area where all things are upgraded. Food, delivery personnel.


I've seen doordash guys around here. I've had Instacart people fucking stoned out of their gourd ask me where fucking sugar is.



Like I said, it's a me problem. I would never use those services freely. If there was no other option, then that'd be different, and I wouldn't want anyone under unfortunate circumstances to be offended at my view on this.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2022, 05:36:41 PM
Tim, that's a weird thing to be hung up on.  I don't use it but local restaurants do deliver and I've done that one in a millenia.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 25, 2022, 05:46:17 PM
If I had a bunch of bad experiences with delivery, I'd probably be a bit anti it as well, but just hasn't been the case.  I've had some slow deliveries or missing/wrong items before, but that's few and far between.  The same bad service can happen sitting at a restaurant.  Having said that, I'm really not a big delivery or take out guy.  Id rather cook my meal or eat out.  But sometimes, it's just what I want or the situation demands.  When I was in Amsterdam last month, everything was locked down so you couldn't dine in, had to get take out or delivery for every meal.  The delivery service, similar to ubereats or doordash, worked really well.  While I couldn't track the delivery person, they were almost always exactly on the dot with timing and even when I missed one delivery (the hotel received it) it was still hot after 30 minutes of it sitting on a counter.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 26, 2022, 12:59:15 PM
Getting back to the 'old' of this thread, I had my physical today. I was fearing the finger and got something worse, a referral to get the anal probe. Getting old sucks!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2022, 01:01:48 PM
Getting back to the 'old' of this thread, I had my physical today. I was fearing the finger and got something worse, a referral to get the anal probe. Getting old sucks!

 :o
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 27, 2022, 06:06:49 PM
I won't use Door Dash or Grubhub for the same reason Tim eluded to, and then some. Not only do restaurants lose money on those sales, they also get into bad situations when they first sign up that are very difficult to get out of. Not only does Grubhub take a percentage of the item cost, they also take marketing costs. They use those marketing costs to create their own websites for the business that will compete with the business's own, thus taking even more of their customers. Restaurants essentially pay for their own competition. And when those shadow websites get new customers they charge the restaurant an even higher percentage on the basis of "look, we're getting you new customers!" They're really pretty evil and predatory.

And if that's not enough, when I've compared prices I've often found that Grubhub charges more than the restaurant itself, and then pays the restaurant less. If something is $10, GH might charge $11.5 and pay the restaurant $8. Yeah, I don't like paying ball.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 27, 2022, 08:07:49 PM
If the contracts are set up as you say, the restaurants will lose money with every sale.  And if that's the case, then why do they enter into these agreements in the first place?

Presumably, this is the business model as I understand it:  The restaurants don't have their own delivery service.  They contract with DD or GH to deliver the food for them.  DD/GH take a cut, the restaurants pay that cut, which cuts into their profits, but they still make money.  The lower profit margin is countered by the additional sales.  Everyone profits.

If that's not the case and DD/GH are taking so much that the restaurants actually lose money with each sale, then what is their incentive to do it in the first place?  You don't enter a contract where you lose money with every transaction.  And basically every major restaurant around here does it, and most minor ones as well.  Is it because of the perception that if they don't play the game, that they'll lose in the "big picture"?  That still doesn't make sense.  If every restaurant loses money with each sale that's delivered by a third party, they'd all be out of business.  And if it's truly a matter of the contracts being hard to get out of, are you saying that nobody's lawyers read any of this before signing up, and thousands of business are just plain stupid?

I'm just not convinced.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2022, 05:38:20 AM
I'm not buying it either. Predatory business practices require one party to be in a dominant position. DoorDash having leverage over Arby's, Wendy's, or fucking McDonalds? It's hard to imagine.

No matter how much Domino's likes to push the narrative of evil delivery company's, I'd like to see proof. They remind me of Blockbuster Video complaining about Netflix "predatory business model."

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 28, 2022, 08:36:32 AM
And if that's not enough, when I've compared prices I've often found that Grubhub charges more than the restaurant itself, and then pays the restaurant less. If something is $10, GH might charge $11.5 and pay the restaurant $8. Yeah, I don't like paying ball.

At the end of the day, this is why I mostly don't use the delivery services.  It's just ends up being significantly more expensive.  I basically only use it when I'm intoxicated and have no food at home.  For example, my one friend spent $30 on taco bell for himself one night when he shared his receipt with us.  And I'm just like uhhh I don't think I could ever, even if drunk, say that spending $30 on a single taco bell meal is ever worth it. 

As for making money off the restaurants, Im sure they do but my guess is it's not enough to make the restaurants not want to be working with them.  My local pizzeria gives you a 10% discount when you order delivery directly from them and not use a service so to me, that means there is some incentive from the business to not use the service... but I think this may be an exception as that pizzeria is so damn good and popular that they can staff a crew of delivery drivers, most places aren't willing to do that so using a service while not as profitable as someone ordering directly is still worth the expense I'd imagine.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2022, 08:52:56 AM
I'm with Bob on this.  Look, Dominos (and other restaurants that routinely deliver, eg, Chinese) hire and cover the expenses of their own staff to perform deliveries.  The bear the cost.  Other restaurants (whether chains, franchises, or local mom/pop places) outsource that because it they don't have the volume of deliveries that would warrant their own full-time staff.  If they were literally losing money with every order, they wouldn't outsource that service.  Sure, they're making less money than in-house service and/or pickup, but so is Dominos or other restaurants that staff their own delivery employees.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 28, 2022, 10:55:13 AM
I'm not buying it either. Predatory business practices require one party to be in a dominant position. DoorDash having leverage over Arby's, Wendy's, or fucking McDonalds? It's hard to imagine.

I don't know the reality of it, but my guess is that the major chains don't contract with any of these services.  At all.  Rather, someone from the services simply goes to the local Wendy's in the McBox and orders the food and delivers it.  There's no business relationship between the service and the restaurant (franchisor or franchisee), and the restaurant sells the same food, at the same prices, and with the same profit margins as it would if the customer walked in the store and bought it him or herself.  In other words, the fact that the sale is being made to a middle man and not directly to the customer is of no consequence to the restaurant.

I've noticed that, on one of the services, the prices are a good 20-25% higher than if I walked into the store.  In other words, if Carl's Jr. is selling a Western Bacon Cheeseburger combo for $10, the service is charging the customer $12.50, along with its various service fees.  It's like when someone sells some sort of super popular toy for $30 and someone buys up the entire inventory and then turns around and sells the toys on the secondary market for a profit.

However, it's a different story with smaller chains and mom & pop restaurants.  My kids worked for a small Asian grill, and my daughter now works for a chain called Rubio's.  Both of them had a contract with at least one of the delivery services, and orders get transmitted directly to the restaurant (as opposed to what likely happens at the larger chains).  Who knows what those contracts say, and, let's face it, small business owners are typically not very business savvy and, like most folks, they probably don't read the contracts before signing.  It's a dumb way to do business and, if someone goes out of business because he/she entered into a bad contract because he/she didn't read or understand the contract, then I don't have a ton of sympathy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 11:20:17 AM
Lots of people, including business owners, get into contracts that don't work out the way they'd hoped. If we want to say fuck'em, it's their own fault for making a dumb decision then I suppose that's fine. I'd just rather not support the people ripping them off. As has been said, some businesses manage to do alright, and plenty don't. But what I described is just one of the problematic practices. There are a gazillion articles online about various predatory practices.

Website listings for places it doesn't contract with (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/29/21113876/grubhub-seamless-fake-restaurant-listings-no-permission-postmates-doordash)

Charging fees for phone calls that don't result in orders (https://eatzy.net/2020/04/24/grubhub-is-still-charging-predatory-phone-call-fees-nyc-restaurant-alleges/)

Cybersquatting (https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/grubhub-cybersquatting-fake-websites-without-owners-consent)

For my part, the two things that have convinced me is talking to a woman from a Chinese restaurant (now closed) who was getting killed by it, and the fact that even Texas is passing a law (https://austin.eater.com/2022/1/3/22452428/new-texas-bill-third-party-delivery-app-transparency-protections-restaurants) to reign these third party apps in. Texas, where the public is little more than coal to be burned by big business.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on January 28, 2022, 01:02:11 PM
I won't use Door Dash or Grubhub for the same reason Tim eluded to, and then some. Not only do restaurants lose money on those sales, they also get into bad situations when they first sign up that are very difficult to get out of. Not only does Grubhub take a percentage of the item cost, they also take marketing costs. They use those marketing costs to create their own websites for the business that will compete with the business's own, thus taking even more of their customers. Restaurants essentially pay for their own competition. And when those shadow websites get new customers they charge the restaurant an even higher percentage on the basis of "look, we're getting you new customers!" They're really pretty evil and predatory.

And if that's not enough, when I've compared prices I've often found that Grubhub charges more than the restaurant itself, and then pays the restaurant less. If something is $10, GH might charge $11.5 and pay the restaurant $8. Yeah, I don't like paying ball.

So.... there's a Domino's commercial up here that is pimping something I'm not sure what, but the upshot is that they're trying to undercut DoorDash/GrubHub.  And one of the testimonials is from a local restauranteur who says "the money they make is directly out of our pocket", and I was like "that's a lie".  But it sounds like it isn't.   I know that about a year ago, we had a craving for McDonald's (more correctly, my wife craved one of their shakes) so we ordered through DoorDash.   Her and I - essentially two Quarter Pounder meals - came to some ridiculous number like $45, with the fees and what not.  I drove there and got it for like $16 (I had a coupon).   I had always thought the RESTAURANTS were charging more for the food through a delivery service (I can articulate a couple reasons why), but it sounds like that's not true; there's that margin AND they are paying the restaurant less?  That's bullshit. 

Where I am now I don't use DD or GH much if at all.  I have two restaurants near me that deliver themselves, old school, and there's about four or five other restaurants that are a short drive and I don't mind.  I'm not THAT lazy.  Yet.

I do use Instacart for my parents, though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 28, 2022, 01:08:28 PM
I'm sure there's truth to that Dominos commercial but I also can't help but assume some of that is BS just because a huge corporation trying to help the little guys who are actual competitors seems a bit odd to me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 01:09:39 PM

I do use Instacart for my parents, though.

My parents used them when Covid started. Again, I don't begrudge anyone that uses these services out of need. I can respect that.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 28, 2022, 01:12:42 PM

I do use Instacart for my parents, though.

My parents used them when Covid started. Again, I don't begrudge anyone that uses these services out of need. I can respect that.

I've never used the service, but I think it's a great option for the people who need it.  I've seen quite a few young healthy people using it and I question why, but if they want to over pay for their laziness that's their decision.  I can think of tons of times I paid more for something because I didn't want to deal with the hassle.  Grocery shopping just hasn't come to that for me though.  I kind of like doing it actually. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 01:13:07 PM
I won't use Door Dash or Grubhub for the same reason Tim eluded to, and then some. Not only do restaurants lose money on those sales, they also get into bad situations when they first sign up that are very difficult to get out of. Not only does Grubhub take a percentage of the item cost, they also take marketing costs. They use those marketing costs to create their own websites for the business that will compete with the business's own, thus taking even more of their customers. Restaurants essentially pay for their own competition. And when those shadow websites get new customers they charge the restaurant an even higher percentage on the basis of "look, we're getting you new customers!" They're really pretty evil and predatory.

And if that's not enough, when I've compared prices I've often found that Grubhub charges more than the restaurant itself, and then pays the restaurant less. If something is $10, GH might charge $11.5 and pay the restaurant $8. Yeah, I don't like paying ball.

So.... there's a Domino's commercial up here that is pimping something I'm not sure what, but the upshot is that they're trying to undercut DoorDash/GrubHub.  And one of the testimonials is from a local restauranteur who says "the money they make is directly out of our pocket", and I was like "that's a lie".  But it sounds like it isn't.   I know that about a year ago, we had a craving for McDonald's (more correctly, my wife craved one of their shakes) so we ordered through DoorDash.   Her and I - essentially two Quarter Pounder meals - came to some ridiculous number like $45, with the fees and what not.  I drove there and got it for like $16 (I had a coupon).   I had always thought the RESTAURANTS were charging more for the food through a delivery service (I can articulate a couple reasons why), but it sounds like that's not true; there's that margin AND they are paying the restaurant less?  That's bullshit. 

Where I am now I don't use DD or GH much if at all.  I have two restaurants near me that deliver themselves, old school, and there's about four or five other restaurants that are a short drive and I don't mind.  I'm not THAT lazy.  Yet.

I do use Instacart for my parents, though.
Yeah, Domino's has been handing out gift cards to local mom and pops encouraging people to order directly. The cynical bastard in me thinks that there has to be something in it for them. I guess that Grubhub is a far greater threat to them than all of their local competitors combined, so they're looking to attack them instead. Plus, it's good press and (in my opinion) good community service.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 01:19:17 PM
I've been doing a bit more reading on the subject, and it looks like these apps are pretty terrible to their own employees, as well. Really, the only people winning are the shareholders. It's not the restaurants and it's not the drivers.

A while back I started a thread about tipping for takeout that really ruffled some feathers. Some do it all the time and others were disgusted by the very idea. I was specifically referring to proper restaurants, and not designed takeout establishments like pizza and Chinese. The rationale is that the waitstaff is having to assemble your order and make sure everything is correct, as well as ring it up, thus taking away time they could be spending with their in person (tipping) customers. Seems that delivery apps have compounded that problem massively. It's now not uncommon for a tipped employee to have to spend and hour doing nothing but assembling orders for takeout apps. The drivers are dicks to them because they're always in a hurry, and the 10% you tip from the app only goes to the driver (and probably a bit to corporate).


edit: And here's one I didn't know about. Yelp is getting kickbacks from Grubhub for replacing a restaurant's number with the Grubhub affiliated number, thus resulting in a GH referral fee when a customer tries to call the restaurant directly.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wjwebw/yelp-is-sneakily-replacing-restaurants-phone-numbers-so-grubhub-can-take-a-cut
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 28, 2022, 02:20:20 PM
It sounds like Grubhub is indeed involved in some pretty shitty practices.  No surprise there, I guess.  Fake websites and cybersquatting have been around for a while, and is usually shot down eventually, but I can see how it's a pain in the ass to the smaller business that don't have the resources to fight it.

But I still don't see how GH listing places that they don't have contracts with hurts the restaurants.  What it basically comes down to is someone placing an order through GH, GH in turn calling in an order to the restaurant, picking it up, and delivering it.  If the restaurant doesn't have a deal with GH, they're sure as hell not going to pay them anything.  An order was placed, they made it, and someone picked it up and paid for it.  If some third party actually placed the order and will be picking up, not the end consumer, how does that hurt the restaurant?  This all has apparently happened without the restaurant even being aware of it.  Shady, but I don't see how the restaurant is hurt by this.

The customer pays more, and that difference is covering GH's costs (and their profit), but obviously food delivered to you is going to cost more than if you just went there and picked it up.  There's a moral downside to the customer being completely unaware that GH isn't doing this above board, but if you're willing to pay $45 for for $16 worth of food, that's on you.  Now, GH taking the order (and the money) and never delivering anything is definitely a problem.  Pissed-off people calling the restaurant saying they never got their food, only to be told that the restaurant doesn't deliver, yeah that's an issue.  GH has crossed the line from being a delivery service to blatant fraud at that point.

The issue with bogus calls and commission fees baffles me.  Apparently GH is charging commission fees to the restaurants for calls that don't result in orders.  The article doesn't really explain that, at least not in a way that I can grok.  If the restaurant doesn't have an agreement with GH, why are they paying GH anything?  If they do have a deal with GH to pay a "commission" per phone call, then they're stupid.  Phone calls do not equal sales.  Paying a commission per sale is a standard, time-honored business practice.  The only deal that makes any sense would be to pay a fee per sale.  As I said earlier, that's how I'd imagined the business model works.  If that's not how it's implemented, and the restaurants have foolishly agreed to something else, yeah that sucks, but I wouldn't have signed the deal in the first place so yeah I'll call someone who did an idiot.  Are every one of these restaurant staffed by idiots?  You agreed to pay a fee per call?  Pay the fee.  It's what you agreed to.  Again, pretty shitty on GH's part, but if that's how the contract is structured, and both parties agreed to it, I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 02:39:16 PM
For one thing, Grubhub often has its own website for businesses it's not contracted with. That's not a huge deal, I guess, but it's shady. Honestly, though, if people want to pay $45 for $20 worth of Taco Bell, bully for them, I guess. That's a whole different problem. My issue is really centered around the places they're contracted with.

There is something I'll throw out, though, related to your point. You know how you go to a Chinese restaurant and the little soy sauce bottle says "only replace with authentic Kikkoman?" Kikkoman's value is their brand, and if you cause people to think that Great Value soy sauce is what Kikkoman tastes like, you're potentially damaging that brand. "Well I'm never buying hat Kikkoman shit again!" Grubhub is charging quite a bit more for something that may well be inferior because it took a while to get there, without the restaurant's consent. Haven't we all said "it was alright, but there are better options for $15" before? That lasagna might have been excellent fresh, and great for the $10 it should have cost.

And again, there's the whole tipping thing, which harms the waitstaff separately from the owner.

The issue with bogus calls and commission fees baffles me.  Apparently GH is charging commission fees to the restaurants for calls that don't result in orders.  The article doesn't really explain that, at least not in a way that I can grok.  If the restaurant doesn't have an agreement with GH, why are they paying GH anything?  If they do have a deal with GH to pay a "commission" per phone call, then they're stupid.  Phone calls do not equal sales.  Paying a commission per sale is a standard, time-honored business practice.  The only deal that makes any sense would be to pay a fee per sale.  As I said earlier, that's how I'd imagined the business model works.  If that's not how it's implemented, and the restaurants have foolishly agreed to something else, yeah that sucks, but I wouldn't have signed the deal in the first place so yeah I'll call someone who did an idiot.  Are every one of these restaurant staffed by idiots?  You agreed to pay a fee per call?  Pay the fee.  It's what you agreed to.  Again, pretty shitty on GH's part, but if that's how the contract is structured, and both parties agreed to it, I don't see the problem.
Figuring out who we can cannot rip off due to our perception of their intelligence is a fascinating thing to me. Seriously. I'd agree with you that a small business owner, in this case a restaurateur, should have a lawyer read the fine print, along with all of the weekly changes to the TOS that they'll get in the mail. I'm not suggesting that the restaurants are blameless in this. I'm just of the opinion that caveat emptor should not be the standard for how we evaluate potential wrongs. We see this sort of thing all the time, where the same sort of transaction may be a ripoff or a fair trade based on what we think of the aggrieved. Like I said, it fascinates me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 28, 2022, 02:41:01 PM
I've been doing a bit more reading on the subject, and it looks like these apps are pretty terrible to their own employees, as well. Really, the only people winning are the shareholders. It's not the restaurants and it's not the drivers.

Well, the customers seem to like it so I guess they are "winning" too and that's kind of what it comes down to at the end of the day.  This is an emerging market and it's disrupting some businesses, but if the general population enjoys this service, it's not going to go anywhere.  As to the company treating their employees like shit, that sucks and maybe is another reason not to use the service but the vast majority of people aren't going to consider that when they are sitting on their couch wanting food without moving. I still think it comes down to laziness for most people, and I must admit I've fallen into that category myself.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on January 28, 2022, 02:46:53 PM
I've never used any food delivery service, and I'll never use one. I don't see anything regulating food safety between when it leaves my highly trained hands and when it arrives at your door. Fuck that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 28, 2022, 03:41:23 PM
Re: Kikkoman's and branding:  I was going to include a section on branding and brand dilution, but my reply was up to four paragraphs already, so I dropped it.  But I see the point.  Someone ordered food from somewhere, it took forever, and it was all soggy and gross by time it arrived.  I can see that reflecting badly on the restaurant, and the restaurant may have no idea the GH/DD was even involved.  They made an order, and someone picked it up.  But GrubHub and DoorDash actually compete around here; it's in everyone's best interest that the food arrive quickly and still hot.  And I've very rarely had any issues with delivery time, and never have gotten cold food.  Maybe not quite as steaming hot as it was when it left the restaurant, but still warm if not hot, and definitely still palatable.

RJ, I get your point about there being no real oversight on the delivery itself.  I suppose it's possible that someone could intentionally mess with the food.  But again, these places are doing it to make money.  I don't see any upside to someone fucking with the food.  We order delivery probably three or four times a month, and as I said, rarely have any issue at all with the delivery itself.  I see it as not much different from pizza places sticking their food in a box, then into an insulated bag, then into the back seat of someone's car.  Not really regulated, but acceptable since the dawn of pizza delivery.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 03:45:11 PM
I've never used any food delivery service, and I'll never use one. I don't see anything regulating food safety between when it leaves my highly trained hands and when it arrives at your door. Fuck that.

Yes, I mentioned this and I agree.



  I see it as not much different from pizza places sticking their food in a box, then into an insulated bag, then into the back seat of someone's car.  Not really regulated, but acceptable since the dawn of pizza delivery.

I mentioned earlier that I'm at least comforted to know the pizza delivery guy is at least an employee of where I order it from.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on January 28, 2022, 03:55:29 PM
The pizza delivery guy works for Domino's or whoever, but that doesn't make him any more professional or reliable than the GH or DD delivery guy.  I just don't see the food being delivered by a third party as a reason not to order delivery by a third party.  You do, and choose not to go with them, and that's your choice.  But I'm not going to limit what I eat to places that have their own delivery.  I'd get sick of pizza and pasta really fast.

I order pizza, and I know it'll be delivered by an employee of the pizza place.  I order food via GrubHub, and I know that it'll be delivered by an employee of GrubHub.  It's not any different to me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 04:14:38 PM
The pizza delivery guy works for Domino's or whoever, but that doesn't make him any more professional or reliable than the GH or DD delivery guy.  I just don't see the food being delivered by a third party as a reason not to order delivery by a third party.  You do, and choose not to go with them, and that's your choice.  But I'm not going to limit what I eat to places that have their own delivery.  I'd get sick of pizza and pasta really fast.

I order pizza, and I know it'll be delivered by an employee of the pizza place.  I order food via GrubHub, and I know that it'll be delivered by an employee of GrubHub.  It's not any different to me.

I just feel like there's an accountability if it's handled by an employee.

OK..whatever. Points made each way. :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2022, 04:21:27 PM
I'd be more concerned with having one of my colleagues pick something up on their way into the office. They're much more likely to spit in my tofu salad than a DoorDash driver.

This discussion has had me reading articles I wouldn't have normally. Some are very concerning, but most articles seem to be emotionally charged, heavy on anecdotes, someone with an axe to grind, and noticeably light on evidence. I'm not really interested in peoples intuition or feelings, I want proof. Still, there does seem to be enough smoke that I'm willing to forego delivery until I can find out more.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2022, 04:24:04 PM
Oh, and Tim...I wanted you to know I saw this:

P, That's great that you've had good experiences. I'm sure you're in a nice area where all things are upgraded. Food, delivery personnel.

 It gave me a good laugh.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 04:36:41 PM
This discussion has had me reading articles I wouldn't have normally. Some are very concerning, but most articles seem to be emotionally charged, heavy on anecdotes, someone with an axe to grind, and noticeably light on evidence. I'm not really interested in peoples intuition or feelings, I want proof. Still, there does seem to be enough smoke that I'm willing to forego delivery until I can find out more.

See..I'm not a ranting lunatic. I'm really just a facilitator. ;D


Oh, and Tim...I wanted you to know I saw this:

P, That's great that you've had good experiences. I'm sure you're in a nice area where all things are upgraded. Food, delivery personnel.

 It gave me a good laugh.  :lol

I'm glad you got a good laugh! ;D

But I'm probably not wrong, and I don't mean that to be insulting or condescending. I just think our geographies and demographics can affect our experiences.

I mentioned being out and seeing the DD and GH guys lining up for orders, and it looked like a fucking police lineup. Like I said, one guy sat down and chased a shot with a beer.
And holy shit, the Instacart people that shop in my store can barely keep their pants up. I wouldn't trust my rotisserie chicken to make it home with both drumsticks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 04:39:58 PM
I'd be more concerned with having one of my colleagues pick something up on their way into the office. They're much more likely to spit in my tofu salad than a DoorDash driver.
Christ, dude, where do you work?  :lol

I think my concern would be more about the determination being the driver's perception of how good a tipper you are, and thus the need to feel like you need to tip bigger.

And re restaurant vs third party delivery, I'm one of the few people that has never delivered pizzas, so I'm unsure of how it plays out in the longterm. What I can tell you is that gig jobs nowadays, be they GrubHub, Instacart, or Uber, can be incredibly frustrating. Delivering for Domino's means that Domino's is a constant and the customer is a variable. Delivering for Door Dash means both the restaurant and the customer are wildcards, and the number of things that can piss you just increased exponentially. You've got to deliver X number of meals per hour for it to work, and the folks at Potbelly taking too long costs you a tip on this customer and the ability to get your next, and you don't even know how hard the delivery side is going to be yet. My hunch is that there probably is a greater likelihood of your door dash driver hocking one up in your soda than Mr. Pizza Guy simply because of the greatly increased aggrevation.

Also, since these services probably work better for some places than for others, my advice would be that the next time somebody is in a place that they occasionally get takeout for, ask. I always pick up my own food, largely to support local businesses, and I've had this conversation before. Maybe they'd prefer you order directly, but Grubhub isn't a direct harm to them. Maybe Grubhub is going to put them right out of business. The only guy who knows for sure is the guy that runs the place.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 04:42:11 PM
I mentioned being out and seeing the DD and GH guys lining up for orders, and it looked like a fucking police lineup. Like I said, one guy sat down and chased a shot with a beer.
And holy shit, the Instacart people that shop in my store can barely keep their pants up. I wouldn't trust my rotisserie chicken to make it home with both drumsticks.
Saw this earlier and it made me chuckle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biGuyZ4GjhQ
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 04:53:32 PM
I mentioned being out and seeing the DD and GH guys lining up for orders, and it looked like a fucking police lineup. Like I said, one guy sat down and chased a shot with a beer.
And holy shit, the Instacart people that shop in my store can barely keep their pants up. I wouldn't trust my rotisserie chicken to make it home with both drumsticks.
Saw this earlier and it made me chuckle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biGuyZ4GjhQ

I saw that too. That is awesome.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2022, 05:40:45 PM
I'd be more concerned with having one of my colleagues pick something up on their way into the office. They're much more likely to spit in my tofu salad than a DoorDash driver.
Christ, dude, where do you work?  :lol

It's not where I work that's the issue, rather the frequency with which I piss off my coworkers.

Besides, like Tim says, locality is probably important to the experience. I'm way more likely than all y'all to have my food delivered by a returned Mormon missionary with a car set in the back, than a toothless tweeker with cabbage in her hair.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 28, 2022, 06:46:03 PM
Cabbage?  Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on January 28, 2022, 08:06:44 PM
Besides, like Tim says, locality is probably important to the experience. I'm way more likely than all y'all to have my food delivered by a returned Mormon missionary with a car set in the back, than a toothless tweeker with cabbage in her hair.

 :o
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2022, 08:38:53 PM
I'd be more concerned with having one of my colleagues pick something up on their way into the office. They're much more likely to spit in my tofu salad than a DoorDash driver.
Christ, dude, where do you work?  :lol

He’s the boss.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 28, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
Where the uni unibomber lived. Lol

Gregg has the utopia of living accommodations.  I've seen the pictures. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 08:53:28 PM
The uni unibomber?  :lol

Did he terrorize local colleges?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on January 28, 2022, 09:04:36 PM
I am finding this discussion fascinating.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2022, 09:11:59 PM
Buried in this page is the fact that someone ordered a tofu salad. WTF is a tofu salad?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on January 28, 2022, 09:12:29 PM
TAC's new profile pic!  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2022, 10:07:35 PM
The uni unibomber?  :lol

Did he terrorize local colleges?
Well, amazingly, yeah. That's exactly what he did. The two of y'all combined to get one thing right.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 29, 2022, 07:31:24 AM
The uni unibomber?  :lol

Did he terrorize local colleges?
Well, amazingly, yeah. That's exactly what he did. The two of y'all combined to get one thing right.  :lol


Let this be a lesson in perseverance.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2022, 10:02:22 AM
It sounds like Grubhub is indeed involved in some pretty shitty practices.  No surprise there, I guess.  Fake websites and cybersquatting have been around for a while, and is usually shot down eventually, but I can see how it's a pain in the ass to the smaller business that don't have the resources to fight it.

But I still don't see how GH listing places that they don't have contracts with hurts the restaurants.  What it basically comes down to is someone placing an order through GH, GH in turn calling in an order to the restaurant, picking it up, and delivering it.  If the restaurant doesn't have a deal with GH, they're sure as hell not going to pay them anything.  An order was placed, they made it, and someone picked it up and paid for it.  If some third party actually placed the order and will be picking up, not the end consumer, how does that hurt the restaurant?  This all has apparently happened without the restaurant even being aware of it.  Shady, but I don't see how the restaurant is hurt by this.

The customer pays more, and that difference is covering GH's costs (and their profit), but obviously food delivered to you is going to cost more than if you just went there and picked it up.  There's a moral downside to the customer being completely unaware that GH isn't doing this above board, but if you're willing to pay $45 for for $16 worth of food, that's on you.  Now, GH taking the order (and the money) and never delivering anything is definitely a problem.  Pissed-off people calling the restaurant saying they never got their food, only to be told that the restaurant doesn't deliver, yeah that's an issue.  GH has crossed the line from being a delivery service to blatant fraud at that point.

This is how I thought it worked.  That GH and/or DD were sort of "unaffiliated" middlemen.  In that case, the Dominos add is misleading and wrong.   If somehow GH and/or DD were, for lack of a better word, extorting restaurants to accept less, that's different.  I can't imagine someone like McDonald's accepting $0.80 on the dollar for their food, when they've taken to actually having TWO drive through lanes at many of their stores to handle volume.  It makes no sense.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2022, 10:04:15 AM
Besides, like Tim says, locality is probably important to the experience. I'm way more likely than all y'all to have my food delivered by a returned Mormon missionary with a car set in the back, than a toothless tweeker with cabbage in her hair.

Where the hell did THAT come from?!?  :) :) :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: LudwigVan on January 30, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Buried in this page is the fact that someone ordered a tofu salad. WTF is a tofu salad?

Tofu is great with anything. It’s one of my go-too foods. Then again, I’m Chinese.  ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 30, 2022, 03:45:42 PM
Tim, have you ever used Google? :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2022, 03:59:58 PM
Tried tofu a few times......can't do it, I don't get it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 30, 2022, 04:13:38 PM
Tim, have you ever used Google? :lol

Where would I go to find out how to use it?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 30, 2022, 04:18:27 PM
 :facepalm


Tim, have you ever used Google? :lol

Where would I go to find out how to use it?

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: LudwigVan on January 31, 2022, 11:28:49 AM
Tried tofu a few times......can't do it, I don't get it.

Yeah, that's understandable. It's your basic bland ethnic staple food, sorta like hummus. I hated tofu in my younger days... it wasn't until I finally tried it in all it's many variations that I've come to love it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 31, 2022, 12:31:03 PM
Hummus is nasty.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2022, 12:46:46 PM
Hummus is nasty.
:facepalm:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ReaperKK on January 31, 2022, 12:48:49 PM
Hummus is nasty.

Get out of here, roasted red pepper hummus is so good.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 31, 2022, 01:21:54 PM
Hummus is nasty.

How dare you attack my heritage.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on January 31, 2022, 01:36:20 PM
Hummus is nasty.

Get out of here, roasted red pepper hummus is so good.

I'm with you on that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on January 31, 2022, 01:43:43 PM
Well, Hummus is like anything else with a variety of flavors.  Depends on the type.  Generally speaking, I like Hummus.  But there are certain types of Hummus out there that I probably wouldn't like.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2022, 01:47:46 PM
Good hummus is great.  That shit Costco sells - especially if it gets a little old - is crap.  Eventually, it just tastes like butter.

Hummus at a Greek restaurant made fresh .... *chefs kiss*
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on January 31, 2022, 01:51:25 PM
Yep, can't go wrong with gourmet Hummus!  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on January 31, 2022, 02:06:51 PM
Anyone else find that they day they hit 40, big wiry hairs started sprouting out of their ears? I've been plucking a few every day, but it seems like more just sprout in their place. Yay for middle age.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 31, 2022, 02:08:00 PM
Hummus is nasty.

Get out of here, roasted red pepper hummus is so good.

Roasted Red peppers are gross too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on January 31, 2022, 02:10:53 PM
Yeah Tim.  Roasted red peppers are almost as bad as Power Windows.  :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on January 31, 2022, 02:12:38 PM
Truth be told, I would take Power Windows over red peppers and hummus. And tofu.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on January 31, 2022, 02:14:50 PM
Well, that's a start. :p
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2022, 02:37:54 PM
Anyone else find that they day they hit 40, big wiry hairs started sprouting out of their ears? I've been plucking a few every day, but it seems like more just sprout in their place. Yay for middle age.

It happened long before 40.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 31, 2022, 02:56:39 PM
Plucking?  I'm too much of s pussy to do that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on January 31, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
Anyone else find that they day they hit 40, big wiry hairs started sprouting out of their ears? I've been plucking a few every day, but it seems like more just sprout in their place. Yay for middle age.

Can't say it was 40 specifically, but yeah...that's about right.  Ear hair...eyebrow hairs that seem to grow a damn inch overnight....


Truth be told, I would take Power Windows over red peppers and hummus. And tofu.

Same.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on January 31, 2022, 03:08:57 PM
Trim eyebrows:

Age 0 to about 45:  Not once
Age 45 to now:  Weekly

Had to buy one of those gizmos for the ear (and the nose). 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2022, 03:15:12 PM
Hair grows every where I don't want it, and nowhere that I do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on January 31, 2022, 09:09:50 PM
Ears: Very little. Nose: needs an occasional pluck/trim. Eyebrows: been trimming them for decades, just became a routine while getting a hair cut. Other landscaping/manscaping: PM me if you want to know.  :angel:

Hummus is disgusting. Don't dislike tofu, but would never choose to eat it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2022, 03:30:19 AM
Hair grows every where I don't want it, and nowhere that I do.

What the fuck is with that hey?  I can grow a fucking jungle in my ass crack yet it freely keeps falling out of my fucking head!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2022, 03:33:28 AM
Hair grows every where I don't want it, and nowhere that I do.

 I can grow a fucking jungle in my ass crack yet it freely keeps falling out of my fucking head!

Transplant?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2022, 03:35:19 AM
Hair grows every where I don't want it, and nowhere that I do.

 I can grow a fucking jungle in my ass crack yet it freely keeps falling out of my fucking head!

Transplant?

Would people know it's my ass hair though?  :justjen
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2022, 03:37:07 AM
Keep it between us - only I would know you're bringing new meaning to the term "asshat."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2022, 04:00:00 AM
I envy guys like Chad that were going bald and just went the full shave.  I don't have the balls to do it, but its not that bad to warrant it yet...I think.  And I'd look like more of an asshat than I already do.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2022, 04:04:19 AM
I envy guys like Chad that were going bald and just went the full shave.  I don't have the balls to do it, but its not that bad to warrant it yet...I think.  And I'd look like more of an asshat than I already do.

I've got long hair for the first time in decades.    Always struggled to get past that annoying stage of wavy hair curling up around my neck and looking stupid but this time , couldn't get a haircut if I wanted one during the lockdowns , so just dealt with it and now got it tied back and past my shoulders.  Suits the guitarist look I guess so what the hell.  Going the shave wouldn't suit me I don't think.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2022, 05:41:18 AM
I envy guys like Chad that were going bald and just went the full shave.  I don't have the balls to do it, but its not that bad to warrant it yet...I think.  And I'd look like more of an asshat than I already do.

Just embrace it.

I feel horrible for jingle.son that he got my genes when it comes to hair.  21 years old, and he's already looking like Prince William - his forehead hairline is receding faster than the barrier reef, and he's catching up to me as to how thin it is.  He wears hats/toques every waking moment - only takes them off to sleep or shower.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 01, 2022, 05:45:13 AM
I envy guys like Chad that were going bald and just went the full shave.  I don't have the balls to do it, but its not that bad to warrant it yet...I think.  And I'd look like more of an asshat than I already do.

I say this only because you're a friend, I love you, and I'm a grumpy old fucker. If you're balding, and have hair longer than a #1 comb on a pair of clipper, you already look like a nozzle. Skullets are the strongest form of birth control known to man. Just shave it off man. Do it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 01, 2022, 05:47:29 AM
My balding is not the worst thing about me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on February 01, 2022, 05:56:26 AM
Stray nipple hairs are the worst.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 01, 2022, 06:02:12 AM
Before anyone asks, she means on either sex!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 01, 2022, 06:15:54 AM
Keep it between us - only I would know you're bringing new meaning to the term "asshat."

 :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ReaperKK on February 01, 2022, 06:21:34 AM
Anyone else find that they day they hit 40, big wiry hairs started sprouting out of their ears? I've been plucking a few every day, but it seems like more just sprout in their place. Yay for middle age.

I'm 35 and around last year I started getting these hairs in on my left eyebrow that just grow non-stop. A hint of things to look forward to in the future.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on February 01, 2022, 07:30:53 AM
Before anyone asks, she means on either sex!
Wut? I was talking about my body specifically lol no one else’s
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2022, 07:37:30 AM
My balding is not the worst thing about me.

Yeah, your taste in hockey teams needs improvement!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 01, 2022, 07:53:38 AM
My balding is not the worst thing about me.

Yeah, your taste in hockey teams needs improvement!

Let's hope your 1st round isn't against us.  LOL
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 01, 2022, 09:15:41 AM
Before anyone asks, she means on either sex!
Wut? I was talking about my body specifically lol no one else’s

I think Greg was trying to protect us guys from having impure thoughts regarding your nipples.  It was a valiant effort.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 01, 2022, 09:22:38 AM
Before anyone asks, she means on either sex!
Wut? I was talking about my body specifically lol no one else’s

I think Greg was trying to protect us guys from having impure thoughts regarding your nipples.  It was a valiant effort.

Actually, I was thinking that in order to get the proper attention that man-nipples deserve, they should be regularly shorn of throat-ticklers. Good manscaping advise there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 01, 2022, 09:23:58 AM

Had to buy one of those gizmos for the ear (and the nose).

Same. I HATE ear hair and it grows like the weeds in my yard. The nose is out of control as well.

I used to have a nice even layout of hair on my legs but it almost all fell off. It's spotty at best and looks terrible.

My Dad is 69 (crap, he turns 70 this year!) and he still has a full head of hair. Never been an issue for me either. The head hair grows like mad.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on February 01, 2022, 09:33:10 AM
This page has given me a nice laugh before really getting started on the work day.   :lol :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2022, 10:53:51 AM
My balding is not the worst thing about me.

Yeah, your taste in hockey teams needs improvement!

Let's hope your 1st round isn't against us.  LOL

I don't think the Leafs can the Metro :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2022, 11:52:50 AM
I envy guys like Chad that were going bald and just went the full shave.  I don't have the balls to do it, but its not that bad to warrant it yet...I think.  And I'd look like more of an asshat than I already do.

I say this only because you're a friend, I love you, and I'm a grumpy old fucker. If you're balding, and have hair longer than a #1 comb on a pair of clipper, you already look like a nozzle. Skullets are the strongest form of birth control known to man. Just shave it off man. Do it.

 :lol

Thanks Gregg.  I'll take the plunge one day.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 01, 2022, 12:24:41 PM
My balding is not the worst thing about me.

Yeah, your taste in hockey teams needs improvement!

Let's hope your 1st round isn't against us.  LOL

I don't think the Leafs can the Metro :biggrin:

We're banned from the boarder.  LOL
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 02, 2022, 12:46:57 PM
I just ordered from Jimmy Johns (there own delivery employees). Happy now, Tim?!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 02, 2022, 12:58:25 PM
I just ordered from Jimmy Johns (there own delivery employees). Happy now, Tim?!


What's Jimmy Johns?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 02, 2022, 01:39:35 PM
 :lol  I just ordered from JJ's.  Got the "buy 2 get 1 half off" deal.  I went to pick up my order.  :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on February 02, 2022, 01:43:21 PM
:lol  I just ordered from JJ's.  Got the "buy 2 get 1 half off" deal.  I went to pick up my order.  :hat
Buy two get one half off? What the hell kind of deal is that? "Buy four get one free!"  :lol


edit: I was thinking about this thread earlier. Tiny little robot delivery things have been driving all over SMU delivering food lately. They're not marked, but it does say "delivering food to Mustangs," so I'm assuming it's DD or GH or the like. So I guess now they're undercutting their gig workers as well as the restaurants they exploit.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2022, 01:51:19 PM
I just ordered from Jimmy Johns (there own delivery employees). Happy now, Tim?!

I'm only happy if you enjoyed your meal. ;D



I just ordered from Jimmy Johns (there own delivery employees). Happy now, Tim?!


What's Jimmy Johns?

Isn't that the surgery baseball pitchers get?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 02, 2022, 02:34:53 PM
I just ordered from Jimmy Johns (there own delivery employees). Happy now, Tim?!

I'm only happy if you enjoyed your meal. ;D



I did. So you're happy.

I'd be happier if I could ever learn the difference between their, they're, and there. That quote embarrasses me completely.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 02, 2022, 02:39:40 PM
:lol  I just ordered from JJ's.  Got the "buy 2 get 1 half off" deal.  I went to pick up my order.  :hat
Buy two get one half off? What the hell kind of deal is that? "Buy four get one free!"  :lol

25% off the full price is a good deal no matter what you're buying.  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 02, 2022, 02:39:59 PM
THERE is a place.  "It's over there.  Right there!"

THEIR is a group possessive.  "They have their tickets."

THEY'RE is a contraction of THEY ARE.  "When they see what you did, they're gonna be pissed."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 02, 2022, 02:46:21 PM
I misspoke, Hef. I do know the difference, but it doesn't automatically, correctly, spring from my fingers when I type. I have to think about it way too much to get things right. It's disappointing, really.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2022, 02:55:07 PM
I just ordered from Jimmy Johns (there own delivery employees). Happy now, Tim?!

I'm only happy if you enjoyed your meal. ;D



I did. So you're happy.

I'd be happier if I could ever learn the difference between their, they're, and there. That quote embarrasses me completely.

Just so you know, I did see the mistake but did not point it out, because, it's not like I'm a dick or anything. ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 02, 2022, 03:04:38 PM
Uh huh.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on February 02, 2022, 04:29:55 PM
I misspoke, Hef. I do know the difference, but it doesn't automatically, correctly, spring from my fingers when I type. I have to think about it way too much to get things right. It's disappointing, really.

Every once in a while, I see that I've messed that up (or "your" and "you're").  I immediately check if I still have time to edit the post.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2022, 10:30:38 PM
I misspoke, Hef. I do know the difference, but it doesn't automatically, correctly, spring from my fingers when I type. I have to think about it way too much to get things right. It's disappointing, really.

Every once in a while, I see that I've messed that up (or "your" and "you're").  I immediately check if I still have time to edit the post.

Haha, yeah I do that too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 03, 2022, 06:54:17 AM
I misspoke, Hef. I do know the difference, but it doesn't automatically, correctly, spring from my fingers when I type. I have to think about it way too much to get things right. It's disappointing, really.
I get it.

FYI, that lesson was just as much for king as it was for you lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 03, 2022, 06:56:58 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 03, 2022, 07:15:08 AM
I misspoke, Hef. I do know the difference, but it doesn't automatically, correctly, spring from my fingers when I type. I have to think about it way too much to get things right. It's disappointing, really.
I get it.

FYI, that lesson was just as much for king as it was for you lol

Aren't I a lost cause? :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zoom E on February 04, 2022, 02:13:53 PM
Yesterday a couple of co-workers and I were discussing the different flavours of Metamucil. That’s a dead give-away that we are all in our 50s  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 04, 2022, 02:14:49 PM
Yesterday a couple of co-workers and I were discussing the different flavours of Metamucil. That’s a dead give-away that we are all in our 50s  :lol

Oh wow! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 06, 2022, 06:47:54 AM
Yesterday a couple of co-workers and I were discussing the different flavours of Metamucil. That’s a dead give-away that we are all in our 50s  :lol
Jesus fuck
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2022, 03:16:16 PM
Yesterday a couple of co-workers and I were discussing the different flavours of Metamucil. That’s a dead give-away that we are all in our 50s  :lol

Well.......did we agree on a favourite?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 06, 2022, 10:06:17 PM
Yesterday a couple of co-workers and I were discussing the different flavours of Metamucil. That’s a dead give-away that we are all in our 50s  :lol

Get your gallbladder out. I used to have to take regular fiber supplements until my gallbladder almost killed me. Now with the same diet as before I can regularly hit the trifecta without issue.

It's kinda nice.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: DragonAttack on February 07, 2022, 12:40:05 AM
I misspoke, Hef. I do know the difference, but it doesn't automatically, correctly, spring from my fingers when I type. I have to think about it way too much to get things right. It's disappointing, really.

Every once in a while, I see that I've messed that up (or "your" and "you're").  I immediately check if I still have time to edit the post.

I tend to notice my misspellings after I've sent an email and then see my note when it's attached to that person's response.  Even more irritating,.... is when someone has quoted me in this forum....knowing I'll never be able to modify my post.   >:(

I have been a 'Murphy Brown' and fired thousands of proofreaders in my time, and will no doubt fire plenty more before my time is up.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 08, 2022, 07:38:13 AM
I had a chat with the senior partner of our business yesterday. I told him that starting next week, I'll be cutting back my hours at the office to 20 per week. I'll be doing half days Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, with a full day on Friday. He took it really well and even refused my offer to trim back my salary. His only request was that I be available by phone to address any emergency issues that may arise. Pretty reasonable, I suppose. It will be nice to have the extra time for home projects, golf with Mrs. P, honing my bbq and PlayStation skills, and generally enjoying more of my life.

Still, it would be nice if he would take my warnings of needing a firm exit strategy for all of us. I reminded him that in three years, I'll be eligible for Social Security benefits and plan to retire full time by then. His response was, he plans to keep going as we are because he can't imagine what he'd do with himself if he didn't work. SMH
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zoom E on February 11, 2022, 09:46:52 AM
Yesterday a couple of co-workers and I were discussing the different flavours of Metamucil. That’s a dead give-away that we are all in our 50s  :lol

Well.......did we agree on a favourite?

 :lol.  Everyone agrees that the original unflavoured Metamucil is nasty. I have to go with the orange powder that you mix with water.

 You can get it in pill form too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zoom E on February 11, 2022, 09:50:20 AM
I had a chat with the senior partner of our business yesterday. I told him that starting next week, I'll be cutting back my hours at the office to 20 per week. I'll be doing half days Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, with a full day on Friday. He took it really well and even refused my offer to trim back my salary. His only request was that I be available by phone to address any emergency issues that may arise. Pretty reasonable, I suppose. It will be nice to have the extra time for home projects, golf with Mrs. P, honing my bbq and PlayStation skills, and generally enjoying more of my life.

Still, it would be nice if he would take my warnings of needing a firm exit strategy for all of us. I reminded him that in three years, I'll be eligible for Social Security benefits and plan to retire full time by then. His response was, he plans to keep going as we are because he can't imagine what he'd do with himself if he didn't work. SMH

It’s great that you can reduce your hours with no cut in pay. A nice way to ease into retirement.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2022, 02:42:03 PM
I had a chat with the senior partner of our business yesterday. I told him that starting next week, I'll be cutting back my hours at the office to 20 per week. I'll be doing half days Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, with a full day on Friday. He took it really well and even refused my offer to trim back my salary. His only request was that I be available by phone to address any emergency issues that may arise. Pretty reasonable, I suppose. It will be nice to have the extra time for home projects, golf with Mrs. P, honing my bbq and PlayStation skills, and generally enjoying more of my life.

Still, it would be nice if he would take my warnings of needing a firm exit strategy for all of us. I reminded him that in three years, I'll be eligible for Social Security benefits and plan to retire full time by then. His response was, he plans to keep going as we are because he can't imagine what he'd do with himself if he didn't work. SMH

That's awesome Gregg, legit that your salary remains the same too.  You probably being the man you are and offering to cut it back helped you not getting it cut back!

That bolded part sounds like someone I know......
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 16, 2022, 03:13:46 PM
I had a chat with the senior partner of our business yesterday. I told him that starting next week, I'll be cutting back my hours at the office to 20 per week. I'll be doing half days Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, with a full day on Friday. He took it really well and even refused my offer to trim back my salary. His only request was that I be available by phone to address any emergency issues that may arise. Pretty reasonable, I suppose. It will be nice to have the extra time for home projects, golf with Mrs. P, honing my bbq and PlayStation skills, and generally enjoying more of my life.

Still, it would be nice if he would take my warnings of needing a firm exit strategy for all of us. I reminded him that in three years, I'll be eligible for Social Security benefits and plan to retire full time by then. His response was, he plans to keep going as we are because he can't imagine what he'd do with himself if he didn't work. SMH

That's awesome Gregg, legit that your salary remains the same too.  You probably being the man you are and offering to cut it back helped you not getting it cut back!

That bolded part sounds like someone I know......

Who?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 03:14:44 PM
Pretty sure he's referring to himself. I feel like I'm the same way too.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 16, 2022, 03:18:48 PM
Really, guys? You can't think of what you would do with your time if you're not working? Man, that's about all I think about. I work for money, but I've been doing the same job (essentially) for 42 fuckin' years and I absolutely despise it. I only work half days, and I can't wait to leave every day.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 16, 2022, 03:22:16 PM
Same here, except I don't hate my job.  But I sure as hell am not doing it for fun or because I have nothing better to do.  I turn 60 this year, and last year both of my sisters retired (one two years older, the other four years younger), but I've got about five more years to go, according to the latest projections.  But if something big changed and I could retire right now, I would.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2022, 03:26:46 PM
Really, guys? You can't think of what you would do with your time if you're not working? Man, that's about all I think about. I work for money, but I've been doing the same job (essentially) for 42 fuckin' years and I absolutely despise it. I only work half days, and I can't wait to leave every day.  :lol

I'm younger so in a different stage in my life I guess.

I've chatted before with a couple of others but yeah, I've been in my job for almost 15 years and it's consumed my time.  I've sacrificed life for my job and money.  I'm only 37 (38 in May) so I still have heaps of time to change.  I guess I see this part of my life where I work the most to try and get ahead to set myself up later in life.  I'm slowly seeing now money is not everything, but now I work so much, yeah, I'd struggle if I didn't go to work each day, I'd be lost.  I work on average 70 hours a week, and I'm not exaggerating.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 03:31:10 PM
Really, guys? You can't think of what you would do with your time if you're not working? Man, that's about all I think about. I work for money, but I've been doing the same job (essentially) for 42 fuckin' years and I absolutely despise it. I only work half days, and I can't wait to leave every day.  :lol

I'm 53 so I have at least 10 years left before retirement. But i also changed positions in April to an easy job with no real pressure. Plus I work 5-1, so I can do this forever.

The thing will be trying to coordinate retirement ages with The Lovely Mrs TAC because there's a 5 year gap between us. We haven't set a plan or a date yet. I know she wants to scale back a bit, but will likely hang in there until my son graduates college (he's a freshman).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2022, 03:33:51 PM
Really, guys? You can't think of what you would do with your time if you're not working? Man, that's about all I think about. I work for money, but I've been doing the same job (essentially) for 42 fuckin' years and I absolutely despise it. I only work half days, and I can't wait to leave every day.  :lol

42 years is a fucking long time doing the same thing though.  I guess though how much you hate it is where it matters though.  I thought I used to despise it, but I don't, so spending so much time there is okay with me at the moment.  It's more of a home than my actual home, not good I know.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2022, 03:40:31 PM
I'm on about a 6-7 year horizon for retirement / financial independence, and since mrs.jingle doesn't have a paid career, we will sync up whenever it does happen.  If I enjoy my job well enough, I'll likely keep working to pad the finances.  But, when I do cut-the-career, I know exactly the things I'd be doing to fill that void of time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2022, 03:45:15 PM
I'm on about a 6-7 year horizon for retirement / financial independence, and since mrs.jingle doesn't have a paid career, we will sync up whenever it does happen.  If I enjoy my job well enough, I'll likely keep working to pad the finances.  But, when I do cut-the-career, I know exactly the things I'd be doing to fill that void of time.

Knowing this I'd imagine must make things a lot easier to plan out.  Seeing an end in sight and having a timeline on something would certainly make it easier to deal with and work through.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 16, 2022, 03:58:22 PM
Also, keep in mind that Mrs. P has been (officially) retired for the past four years. She still does some consulting/coaching work, and a bit of academic research writing as an adjunct professor for a local college--all of which she does from home. Add in the fact that she's my favorite person on the planet and I'd love nothing more than to spend all my time with her and you'll begin to see why I'd rather not be in the office dealing with whiny customers and apathetic employees.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 04:03:27 PM
So are you saying that More DTFing has nothing to do with it? :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 16, 2022, 04:07:15 PM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on February 16, 2022, 04:19:46 PM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Same here  :yarr
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 04:21:44 PM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2022, 05:05:51 PM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Don't we all?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2022, 05:12:15 PM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Don't we all?

Or on the phone while in the office.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2022, 05:13:32 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2022, 05:45:44 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

(http://replygif.net/i/1023.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2022, 05:57:22 PM
We all sneak to go on it.  You silly person.

I should have known from a dude that has the privilege to work from home.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2022, 07:02:31 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

Sneak onto DTF at work.

Sneak onto Porn Hub at home.

Checks out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 07:11:53 PM
Wait..you mean this isn't the porn hub?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2022, 07:53:11 PM
Seeing Tim dig out of a time capsule is porn itself.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 07:55:48 PM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/495/407/60d.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2022, 08:07:06 PM
Went to a Iron Maiden concert.   Woke up with 2 children.

It hurts to the core.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2022, 08:09:05 PM
Hah! It's all good!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 16, 2022, 08:12:37 PM
It's true. Isn't it. Lol.

Crap. Its true for me with my nephews and nieces.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 17, 2022, 06:14:27 AM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Same here  :yarr

Hey guys!  What's up?   :) :) :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 17, 2022, 06:32:52 AM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Same here  :yarr

Hey guys!  What's up?   :) :) :)

Just waitin for my 9am team call.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 17, 2022, 07:06:09 AM
Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Don't we all?
I certainly thought we did.

Oh, and I really like my job, but I would retire this afternoon if I could.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 17, 2022, 07:35:55 AM
Ditto.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on February 17, 2022, 11:51:31 AM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

uhhh, contrary to what you may believe, I do not masturbate to DTF
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on February 17, 2022, 12:33:13 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

 :rollin  Maybe I shouldn't be laughing at that...

Hell, I do most of my DTFing from the office!  :lol

Don't we all?
I certainly thought we did.

Oh, and I really like my job, but I would retire this afternoon if I could.

Same for me... though my "office" moves from my library, to my dining room table, to my basement. 

For the most part, I love my job... but as others have said, if I could retire I would immediately and spend the rest of my gifted time traveling, climbing, hiking, and pretending to be a musician.  I turn 42 this year, hope to "retire" from the mortgage biz in 10-15 years and do something else (food truck or very small eat-in/take-out place likely)... by then, I'd like to have a few small AirBNBs spread between Virginia, NC, and Maine to support us.  Should dream big right?  I have schematics for the structures ready... just need the lots/land.  Lord willing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 17, 2022, 12:53:23 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

uhhh, contrary to what you may believe, I do not masturbate to DTF

I'm in an office so being on DTF feels like sneaking on Porn Hub at home.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on February 17, 2022, 01:44:19 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

uhhh, contrary to what you may believe, I do not masturbate to DTF

Not even WildRanger posts?!   :omg:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on February 17, 2022, 02:18:47 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

uhhh, contrary to what you may believe, I do not masturbate to DTF

Not even WildRanger posts?!   :omg:

 :lol only if you want to lose your mojo
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 17, 2022, 02:36:06 PM
Y'all corrupting this thread with your youngster talk of Porn and dolphin flogging. Clear out, this is an ED zone. Have some respect.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on February 17, 2022, 02:42:12 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: faizoff on February 17, 2022, 02:46:08 PM
I'm guessing this belongs here seeing it is the oldies thread. When I first used to visit this site I didn't have the address bookmarked so I would search for "DTF" and almost always the first few results would be some smut or really wacky sex related stuff. Never understood why until once the top result was a link to Urban Dictionary and then it made sense.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2022, 02:56:54 PM
DTF = Porn Hub.  :lol

uhhh, contrary to what you may believe, I do not masturbate to DTF

Not even WildRanger posts?!   :omg:

Depends if the topic is subjective or objective.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
Y'all corrupting this thread with your youngster talk of Porn and dolphin flogging. Clear out, this is an ED zone. Have some respect.

Outstanding!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 10, 2022, 02:43:08 PM
So somehow I managed to pull a muscle in the lower side of my left rib cage. It started the same time I got the flu and has never gotten better. Went to the Urgent Care yesterday after the pain started getting worse again. Doctor started poking around and hit the spot and I nearly leapt off the table. Intense pain.

Now my question is, how exactly did I strain it? Did I cough or sneeze and do this? I literally live on my couch. Anyway, now I have a strong anti-inflammatory and a muscle relaxer to knock me out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2022, 03:05:31 PM
So somehow I managed to pull a muscle in the lower side of my left rib cage. It started the same time I got the flu and has never gotten better. Went to the Urgent Care yesterday after the pain started getting worse again. Doctor started poking around and hit the spot and I nearly leapt off the table. Intense pain.

Now my question is, how exactly did I strain it? Did I cough or sneeze and do this? I literally live on my couch. Anyway, now I have a strong anti-inflammatory and a muscle relaxer to knock me out.

Sounds like rib cartilage?  I've done that a couple of times training and the pain is intense.  Intense coughing can definitely be a reason.  The more you cough the more it's going to flare up.  It takes weeks to improve usually. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 10, 2022, 03:12:40 PM
So somehow I managed to pull a muscle in the lower side of my left rib cage. It started the same time I got the flu and has never gotten better. Went to the Urgent Care yesterday after the pain started getting worse again. Doctor started poking around and hit the spot and I nearly leapt off the table. Intense pain.

Now my question is, how exactly did I strain it? Did I cough or sneeze and do this? I literally live on my couch. Anyway, now I have a strong anti-inflammatory and a muscle relaxer to knock me out.

Sounds like rib cartilage?  I've done that a couple of times training and the pain is intense.  Intense coughing can definitely be a reason.  The more you cough the more it's going to flare up.  It takes weeks to improve usually.

I have cough-variant asthma. It's a persistent dry cough that can vary in intensity based on other factors. It's been fairly bad lately. I'm back on my inhaler again to try to calm it down. Every time I cough it feels like someone is punching me in my left side. Lots of fun.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: emtee on March 10, 2022, 03:44:10 PM
Sounds like you displaced a rib. Very common with severe coughing. A good chiropractor can fix you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 10, 2022, 04:01:32 PM
As soon as I got home from Urgent Care I made an appt with my regular doctor. I see him next Thursday. He doesn't mess around and will do everything he can to get an answer. Everything is conjecture right now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on March 10, 2022, 04:04:16 PM
So not Plurosy?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on March 10, 2022, 04:56:08 PM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on March 11, 2022, 09:17:57 AM
Y'all corrupting this thread with your youngster talk of Porn and dolphin flogging. Clear out, this is an ED zone. Have some respect.

 :lol  I do have symptoms related to aging but thankfully ED isn't one of them.  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2022, 06:21:14 AM
Ya know, I always said turning 40 was like flicking a switch where my body just didn't recover from pain and injuries as fast.  What would take a couple of weeks to get over something in my 30s all of a sudden would take a couple of months (at best).

Well, 50 said "hold my beer".  It's just general soreness and aches that take forever to go away.  I pushed myself a little too hard with my exercise routine in January, and my shoulders are STILL routinely quite sore because of it - and I haven't worked out since the end of January.   :angry:

Youth is wasted on the young.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 16, 2022, 01:48:45 PM
I am officially old.

My oldest and her fiance officially set their wedding date.  September 30, 2023.  We booked the venue, and now have to sell our souls to pay for it (a castle, no less, and yes, it will be a medieval/fantasy themed wedding).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 16, 2022, 02:11:31 PM
Congratulations to you and Jewel!  No congratulations for your bank account.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on March 16, 2022, 02:43:08 PM
I am officially old.

My oldest and her fiance officially set their wedding date.  September 30, 2023.  We booked the venue, and now have to sell our souls to pay for it (a castle, no less, and yes, it will be a medieval/fantasy themed wedding).
Use that to your advantage. Ain't no photographers in Tamriel. No champagne, either. I'd bet you can hire a troubadour for a lot less than a band. Maybe insist that the groom slaughter whatever meat there is for the rehearsal dinner himself. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2022, 03:17:47 PM
I am officially old.

My oldest and her fiance officially set their wedding date.  September 30, 2023.  We booked the venue, and now have to sell our souls to pay for it (a castle, no less, and yes, it will be a medieval/fantasy themed wedding).
Use that to your advantage. Ain't no photographers in Tamriel. No champagne, either. I'd bet you can hire a troubadour for a lot less than a band. Maybe insist that the groom slaughter whatever meat there is for the rehearsal dinner himself.

No need to go full medieval though... like, 21st century hygiene would be ok.

Congrats Heffy!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 16, 2022, 04:03:44 PM
Awesome Hef! A few of the greatest times of my life were the weddings of my children. Enjoy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on March 16, 2022, 07:08:57 PM
I am officially old.

My oldest and her fiance officially set their wedding date.  September 30, 2023.  We booked the venue, and now have to sell our souls to pay for it (a castle, no less, and yes, it will be a medieval/fantasy themed wedding).
Use that to your advantage. Ain't no photographers in Tamriel. No champagne, either. I'd bet you can hire a troubadour for a lot less than a band. Maybe insist that the groom slaughter whatever meat there is for the rehearsal dinner himself.

A real troubadour would be BOSS.  Wine from goblets, too.  I've got to start working on my daughter, dropping hints.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
I am officially old.

My oldest and her fiance officially set their wedding date.  September 30, 2023.  We booked the venue, and now have to sell our souls to pay for it (a castle, no less, and yes, it will be a medieval/fantasy themed wedding).
Use that to your advantage. Ain't no photographers in Tamriel. No champagne, either. I'd bet you can hire a troubadour for a lot less than a band. Maybe insist that the groom slaughter whatever meat there is for the rehearsal dinner himself.

A real troubadour would be BOSS.  Wine from goblets, too.  I've got to start working on my daughter, dropping hints.

No cutlery either.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2022, 08:27:03 AM
Use that to your advantage. Ain't no photographers in Tamriel. No champagne, either.
I dig it.  Although the groom is definitely into mead, and I will definitely have some good bourbon there.

I'd bet you can hire a troubadour for a lot less than a band.
Possibly.  We are definitely looking into what we can do for appropriate music.

Maybe insist that the groom slaughter whatever meat there is for the rehearsal dinner himself.
He might be into that.  He's pretty hardcore.

No cutlery either.
I mentioned this to my wife and got a dirty fucking look.

LOL
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: splent on March 17, 2022, 08:31:48 AM
FYI I turn 39 next month.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 17, 2022, 08:34:26 AM
FYI I turn 39 next month.

Still a year away youngster.  LOL
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on March 17, 2022, 11:42:12 AM

Maybe insist that the groom slaughter whatever meat there is for the rehearsal dinner himself.
He might be into that.  He's pretty hardcore.


Well shit, I missed meeting this guy.  If he's that hardcore, hopefully there will be some cameras to catch the feast.  "We eat well in Camelot.  Ham, and Jam, and Spam a lot."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2022, 12:29:47 PM
He and my daughter didn't make it in time for the meetup.  They met us at the venue.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 07, 2022, 12:38:47 PM
Well, my first fogey colonoscopy is in the books today. Couldn't have gone much worse. I had a stunning migraine kick in just as I was about to start my prep yesterday. Was worried I wouldn't get through it as I upchucked a few times during the first 4 glasses of terrible juice. Thankfully, I persevered and finally got to bed at 1am. I lied about finishing the jug of despair as everything was already looking good (well, from the perspective of what I was going through) and, thankfully, I was right. Got a clean bill of health this morning and a pass for 5 years. Still have a massive headache, but getting better.

Apparently, I freaked them out with my snoring while under. I guess they tried to adjust my head or something to try and control it. It was quite the topic after I woke up. Of course, I don't snore.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on April 07, 2022, 01:55:35 PM
No colonoscopies for this guy.  It just isn't gonna happen.  I'll take my chances.  I mean really, this is the 21st century.  They can't figure out a non-intrusive way to get the same results?  Please... :\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 07, 2022, 02:02:17 PM
You won't feel a thing. Drinking that solution the night before and the non stope bathroom runs (pun intended) is way worse than the actual procedure. 

I woke up, did feel and thing and was hungry.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on April 07, 2022, 02:10:20 PM
You won't feel a thing. Drinking that solution the night before and the non stope bathroom runs (pun intended) is way worse than the actual procedure. 

I woke up, did feel and thing and was hungry.

The girl told me it would be the best sleep I ever had, and dammit, she was right.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on April 07, 2022, 02:15:14 PM
The prep is the main reason I ain't doing it.  Not to mention having a camera stuck up your ass while you're sleeping.  Do they put you to sleep so you feel less violated?  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on April 07, 2022, 02:30:51 PM
The prep is the main reason I ain't doing it.  Not to mention having a camera stuck up your ass while you're sleeping.  Do they put you to sleep so you feel less violated?  :lol

My first time getting one 20+ years ago, I was awake.  Since then, completely knocked out and a total NBD.  The funniest part is that they won't let you leave until you audibly fart (and no, that's not a joke).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 07, 2022, 02:31:14 PM
I was told to count down from 10 to 1.  I made it to 9.  LOL
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on April 07, 2022, 02:49:38 PM
Mine was nothing.  I'd feared the solution I had to drink, but it wasn't too bad.  I've drank stuff far worse at collage parties.  The "non-stop" trips to the bathroom were like four or five sessions over the first hour, then they tapered off sharply.  And the discomfort normally associated with diarrhea was non-existent.  Felt kinda weird dumping all that fluid out the secondary excretory portal, but it was totally painless.

The procedure itself was under general anestetic.  I was supposed to count down from 100, and got to 98.  Moments later (from my point of view), I'm sitting there with my wife in a recovery room, and just as she was about to call for someone, the tech came in and said "Ah, you're awake."  Half an hour later, she drove me home, and I'm good for the next five years.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 07, 2022, 02:55:01 PM
I'm 46 and have not done a colonoscopy, prostate exam etc etc of the crap that I know I'm suppose to have already done. I need to get on it and be responsible but in my mind I'm still only 25 so I have time
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on April 07, 2022, 02:58:05 PM
The first time I had one done, I was told how nasty the nasty juice is, so I came up with a brilliant plan.  I bought a 64 ounce bottle of Gatorade and drank however, many ounces the nasty juice was (something innocuous like 8 ounces).  I then poured the nasty juice into the Gatorade thinking that that much Gatorade would make the nasty juice not nasty.

Yeah...I then proceeded to spend the next two hours drinking a HALF FUCKING GALLON of nasty juice flavored Gatorade.   :|
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on April 07, 2022, 03:13:45 PM
I'm sure there are different versions of the "nasty juice" used by different doctors, etc., but I swear, mine was almost pleasant.  Lemon flavored, it was basically like lemonade with a little too much sugar (which is still way better than not enough), and had some viscosity to it that was weird, but what the hell.  There are far worse things that drinking too-sweet lemonade.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on April 07, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
Yeah...that first time, I have a vague recollection of being told to go buy the nasty juice myself at a grocery store or pharmacy.  I could be wrong about that, and I never actually tried to drink it straight.  The times since then that I've had this done, I don't have any particular recollection of it being nasty.

One thing I do recall is being asked if I wanted to see pictures, and I was like, "fuck no!"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 07, 2022, 04:40:01 PM
I didn't even get the countdown. They wheeled me in and got me all hooked up and the doctor came over and asked how I was and said we're ready. They had me roll over and the next thing I know I wake up in recovery.

The nasty drink wasn't actually as bad as expected. It was lemon flavored and thick like Orbert said. My thought it was like drinking snot. My migraine is what made it way worse than it needed to be. I literally can't tell I was probed at all. That's how the aliens get you.

Due to my lack of a gallbladder I am way more regular than I ever have been which I expected would make the prep that much easier and I was right. Again, had it not been for the migraine it would have been a cakewalk. I emptied 4 loads before I even started the prep so there wasn't much left to clear out. I probably threw up 24 or so ounces of the prep and left about at least that much in the bottle when I threw in the towel. All thanks to the internet telling me what the stuff should look like once I am cleansed.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2022, 04:40:32 AM
My prep experience was almost exactly like Bob's.  I had a huge breakfast, along with  some consomme soup broth and jello throughout the day.  I was rather surprised that I didn't have any hunger issues.  Bathroom trips weren't too bad.  And like Paul, I got to 98 an was then out, awake in recovery.

Lots of 'expulsion' at that time though.  With all the other people there in the recovery area, it was like a chorus of  timpanis.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on April 08, 2022, 07:07:46 AM
The prep is the main reason I ain't doing it.  Not to mention having a camera stuck up your ass while you're sleeping.  Do they put you to sleep so you feel less violated?  :lol

Look, it's not like sitting down at a fine whiskey bar and sampling their 20-year Scotch, but let's not over-exaggerate things.  You drink something that isn't THAT pleasant - we've all done it - and you get a couple bouts of what is essentially diarrhea - we've all had it.  I think some of the real downside is slightly over-blown. There's plenty of things in life I don't WANT to do but I do them anyway, and this is one of them. I don't think I'd ever skip one because of the prep, having been through it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2022, 08:18:53 AM
The prep is the main reason I ain't doing it.  Not to mention having a camera stuck up your ass while you're sleeping.  Do they put you to sleep so you feel less violated?  :lol

Look, it's not like sitting down at a fine whiskey bar and sampling their 20-year Scotch, but let's not over-exaggerate things.  You drink something that isn't THAT pleasant - we've all done it - and you get a couple bouts of what is essentially diarrhea - we've all had it.  I think some of the real downside is slightly over-blown. There's plenty of things in life I don't WANT to do but I do them anyway, and this is one of them. I don't think I'd ever skip one because of the prep, having been through it.

Yeah... I'll take the uncomfortableness of this 24-hour period once every 5 years over the potential risk of colon cancer, and everything that comes with that.

:dunno:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on April 08, 2022, 08:30:19 AM
That's basically what it comes down to for me, too.  A day of moderate hassle (which really wasn't that bad) versus potentially getting colon cancer?  No-brainer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on April 08, 2022, 01:28:57 PM
Yeah... it's not that bad.  I had one at 35 because I was showing symptoms and wanted to be certain (thank The Lord it was clean... get it?).  Gatorage, Metamucil, low residue diet for 72-hours, one day of running to the can, and mind clear.  Worth it I think...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 11, 2022, 08:07:46 AM
Stayed up til 2am Friday night smoking cigars and playing Spades.  Been paying for it ever since.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 11, 2022, 09:11:11 AM
Fellas I am at a crossroads of sorts. Gonna word vomit for a bit so forgive me if this ends up long.

In 2008 when I was at my heaviest (217lbs....I'm 5'-6" so that'll give you some perspective) I hammered down and started my fitness journey. Started running, exercising etc etc and yadda yadda yadda....my lowest weight I recored was 152. But, it was an unhealthy 152 so with some tweaks and responsible health choices I spent the better part of a decade fluctuating weight wise from the low 160's to the low 170's. Was running 5 miles a day 4 or 5 days a week.....I've participated in literally countless half marathons....have run two fulls, two tough mudders....just made sure to keep signing up for events to stay active and didn't really think twice about it.

Not to make this a blame covid deal....but ever since I caught covid in December of 2020 my motivation to exercise has vanished. I managed to run two half marathons in 2021 but my weekly exercise has only consisted of ice hockey on Sunday nights for three hours. I've sprinkled in some runs here and there but nothing regimented like I had done for 10+ years. No consistency. Plus, I've tacked on 15-20lbs since then and historically, when I added a few pounds I was able to just make the decision to lose it mentally and did what it took to do so. Just haven't been able to do it yet.

I've seemingly lost the motivation or ability to 'flip the switch' and just drop these 15-20lbs which is incredibly frustrating given I've always been able to before. I cold turkeyed tobacco 20 years ago....am coming up on 14  years sober and have always had the will and resolve to just get done what needed to be done. But I'm having a tough time getting going on this. I've attempted to 'get started' on the turn around multiple times now with my motivation falling away in no time. I don't know if it's a case of I hit it hard for so long that now my ambition is whittled away or what but somethings missing.

Add to that my sleeping habits are leaving me perpetually tired and I'm just in a major funk. I feel like I 'know' what the answers are.....eat better and smarter.....F'n go to sleep at night rather than screen time myself to death......quit whining and start making the right choices....but man, it is so much easier said right now than done. On top of it all throw in the responsibilities of what our kids have going on in their lives and just the everyday 'life' crap and that I'm indeed really 46 and not 30 like my mind believes.....and I'm staring at a candle burning at both ends scenario that has been burning for a while now.

Not even sure what I'm asking or even asking anything at all....just felt like venting and throwing it all out there to see if it made me feel any better....I have to make some changes and I know it....I just can't seem to get going on it though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 09:18:14 AM
Read that quickly on my phone and I’ll read it again at home later, but I wanted to ask… how is your son doing?
I can’t help but think that his situation  be playing into it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 11, 2022, 09:25:51 AM
Read that quickly on my phone and I’ll read it again at home later, but I wanted to ask… how is your son doing?
I can’t help but think that his situation  be playing into it.

For the past couple weeks it's been really good. Great conversations and he's been interacting and carrying on like his 'old self'. But as I've learned through this with him.....just when I believe we've turned a corner or that it's all behind us something happens or there's set back so I'm cautious to get comfortable if that makes sense.

But, I'm sure with what we're going through with him has played some sort of part in wearing down my mental game.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on April 11, 2022, 09:46:19 AM
I've continually been what the experts call "over weight".  I had the discipline, but not the inclination, to get down below (my lowest since high school was about 200 and I'm 5'8").  But I would do physical labor around the house to keep in shape and I usually was in better shape than I looked.   

In the last couple years I've felt the same sort of feelings you have in terms of having "life crap".  I've just got a lot of things going on. The typical childhood problems - how to get your kid to baseball, teaching your kid he can't call other kids "dickheads" in class - pale in comparison to the life problems they have when they get older.  You have your issues, well documented, and I have, if not the same then ballpark similar ones.   And for me, it's draining mentally, and saps that energy that I would use to go out and split wood or some other activity that I consider "my exercise".

This past weekend I did something I have never done EVER in my life:  Every house I've owned (four or five now) I go in and paint, most if not all of the rooms.  If the house is over 10 years old, I change out all the outlets and switches.  A cheap way of making the house look "clean" and "new".  ALWAYS it was "I'm able, I know how to paint (I do) and I can do this myself".  Well, I paid a guy to paint my bathroom this weekend, and I will likely be paying him to paint my hallway and staircase.   It's a big deal to me, though it may not be to others, but I kind of think it's in the same ballpark as your "inertia" about losing weight.  Don't beat yourself up; we have capacities, and outside of an emergency or a life or death situation, those capacities are finite.   I'm not suggesting you let your health go, but you do have to decide where your capacity is best served.  My wife finally convinced me that taking care of my parents and my kids is more important than painting a bathroom, and I agree.

Something to consider.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
I can summarize Bill's post (which was great) in one word ....

Priorities.

Set them
Understand them
Accept them*
Follow them
Don't beat yourself up over them

Gary... I know exactly where you're coming from.  Been there many times, as recently as Jan/Feb this year.  So many thoughts, not enough time to type them right now.

*Which includes accepting the outcomes of them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 11, 2022, 10:08:53 AM
Bill.....great post and I think perhaps I've just been subconsciously 'deciding' where I'm putting my energy and focus? As you said....I've shared some of the recent parenting issues we're facing and while I don't look at it as exhausting or something that is or should wipe me out.....maybe it has? I don't know?

And Chad...I think for that 10+ years I built my identity around the constant exercise/running/doing races etc etc. It was like a badge of honor so to speak and something that those around me tied me to....and as I said, it was a part of 'me' for a long time. I feel like here the past year...year and a half I just got to the point where the constant running and races just wasn't as important as it once was. But, I haven't resolved that admission in my mind fully....that I just don't deem it as important as I once did. I still want to remain in 'shape' and be responsible....but having a resting hear rate in the low 40's may not be realistic or necessary anymore.

I'll try to take your "don't beat yourself up over them" advice seriously because that's a large part of the way I'm feeling right now. I feel like I'm letting myself down and to an extension my kids/family for not holding to this image and creation of myself I presented to everyone for so many years.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 11, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
I totally understand Gary.  I was so depressed the last 2 years and kept putting on weight it was bad.  I just mentally shut down.  Having to be "on" all the time with work during the covid as a manager, struggling to staff and just feeling down lead me to feeling worse about myself.  Took me a while to say, snap out of it.  While I'm still overweight, I'm feeling better mentally and physically.

 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 11, 2022, 10:56:40 AM
Due to my accident in 2007, which I have shared here and there, exercise is not something that is particularly easy. My right ankle is always in quite a bit of pain (it's screaming at me right now) and my left knee has outlasted all the experts opinions on when it should be replaced. I did have a gym membership before my accident but I find most activities extremely painful now. One of the few things that I took pride in was using a push mower to do my yard. I was getting some semblance of exercise. Problem was, I was usually in agony for the next couple of days due to the pain but I didn't want to get a rider because in my mind my lawn did not qualify for such a thing. Well, the last year that I used a push mower I was struggling to even finish. I was having to stop because I felt like I was going to have a heart attack and I could barely walk. It was all adrenaline getting me through. Finally had to get it through my head that I am not the man I was before my accident. The rider has made my summer's so much less painful.

Outside of my weight, I do everything else right from a medical perspective. I get yearly physicals/blood work, I see a dermatologist every year, I just had my first geezer probing. All of my numbers check out. The only number that is off is my weight and I also have the issue of genetics against me on that.

I'm 45 with a brain that thinks he's 25. Just trying to come to grips with balancing everything out to make me as happy as possible.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 11, 2022, 11:10:17 AM
I'm 45 with a brain that thinks he's 25. Just trying to come to grips with balancing everything out to make me as happy as possible.

Right there with ya.....although I'm 46 it's the same undertaking.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 11:21:48 AM
Read that quickly on my phone and I’ll read it again at home later, but I wanted to ask… how is your son doing?
I can’t help but think that his situation  be playing into it.

For the past couple weeks it's been really good. Great conversations and he's been interacting and carrying on like his 'old self'. But as I've learned through this with him.....just when I believe we've turned a corner or that it's all behind us something happens or there's set back so I'm cautious to get comfortable if that makes sense.

But, I'm sure with what we're going through with him has played some sort of part in wearing down my mental game.

That's good that it's been good for a bit. I can't imagine the emotional and mental toll that takes.


Have you talked with your doctor about this? Is your bloodwork up to date? I'm thinking blood sugar levels, vitamin deficiencies,...or even worse, can all affect your energy levels day in and day out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 11, 2022, 11:25:44 AM
Have you talked with your doctor about this? Is your bloodwork up to date? I'm thinking blood sugar levels, vitamin deficiencies,...or even worse, can all affect your energy levels day in and day out.

I'm going to be real honest here Tim.....I haven't been to the Dr. for any type of anything in years. The last time I even spoke to her was during the pandemic when I torked my head on the boards playing hockey and when she wrote me an order for a covid test (back when that's what it took to get one)

I know I need to get in and do a ton of that stuff.....I understand it's the right and responsible thing to do. I just haven't, no excuses to be offered here as to why not.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
Have you talked with your doctor about this? Is your bloodwork up to date? I'm thinking blood sugar levels, vitamin deficiencies,...or even worse, can all affect your energy levels day in and day out.

I'm going to be real honest here Tim.....I haven't been to the Dr. for any type of anything in years. The last time I even spoke to her was during the pandemic when I torked my head on the boards playing hockey and when she wrote me an order for a covid test (back when that's what it took to get one)

I know I need to get in and do a ton of that stuff.....I understand it's the right and responsible thing to do. I just haven't, no excuses to be offered here as to why not.

You would at least rule some things out. There may be a very explainable reason for how you’re feeling.
Plus you’ve had Covid twice.     
 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Hyperplex on April 11, 2022, 11:38:22 AM
So the last time I hit the Old as Mold limit, you guys upped it by 10 years. So have you upped it again? I've been 40 for almost 2 weeks now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 11:44:46 AM
So the last time I hit the Old as Mold limit, you guys upped it by 10 years. So have you upped it again? I've been 40 for almost 2 weeks now.


You’re in. Unless of course you have a clean bill of health.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2022, 11:46:23 AM
So the last time I hit the Old as Mold limit, you guys upped it by 10 years. So have you upped it again? I've been 40 for almost 2 weeks now.


You’re in. Unless of course you have a clean bill of health.

Plus... Tick hasn't been around in a while, so no one's gonna update the thread title.

With the discussion today, this seems pretty relevant:

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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 11:52:37 AM
Tick? Jeez I forgot about him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on April 11, 2022, 12:09:38 PM
Bill.....great post and I think perhaps I've just been subconsciously 'deciding' where I'm putting my energy and focus? As you said....I've shared some of the recent parenting issues we're facing and while I don't look at it as exhausting or something that is or should wipe me out.....maybe it has? I don't know?



Well, I'm a firm believer that our bodies talk to us, either consciously or unconsciously, and it's only a matter of "do we listen?".  And whether it's someone like Neal, who maintains that God has spoken to him, or someone else that points to "their genes", or the "bad Chinese food we ate", to anything else that we use for guidance or motivation, those truths come out.  I've had moderate stomach issues most of my life - heartburn, that sort of thing - and all that flared up once in my life: I had diverticulitis and it was excruciating (it's basically an infection of one or more little "pockets" in your intestine; similar to appendicitis, just not in your appendix).   I even spent three days in the hospital.   

Oh, I forgot to mention, the second day in the hospital was the court date against my ex-wife in a post-divorce contempt of court motion she filed against me.  They rescheduled, of course, but I took it for what it was: I was not being honest with myself about how much that bothered me, and how anxious I was to have to answer to the court.  I was representing myself and she had a lawyer; after I got out of the hospital I called an attorney and we settled within about two weeks.  Coincidence?  Maybe; or maybe my brain was unconsciously dealing with a stress and anxiety that I was in denial over.   I do know this; following the settlement, I patched things up with my ex; we're not close friends or anything, but we are civil and friendly, and when she had a life event not long ago that went way back to the start of our marriage, she called me to talk it through as opposed to her husband.   And oh by the way, I've not had a problem with my colon since. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 12:52:35 PM
Well, I just got home from having a tooth pulled. Yay! The left side of my face is completely numb, but my left bottom jaw if fucking sore as hell.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2022, 02:22:12 PM
Well, I just got home from having a tooth pulled. Yay! The left side of my face is completely numb, but my left bottom jaw if fucking sore as hell.

Elective procedure?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 02:31:06 PM
Well, I just got home from having a tooth pulled. Yay! The left side of my face is completely numb, but my left bottom jaw if fucking sore as hell.

Elective procedure?

I cracked a tooth in half a couple of weeks ago. Literally split down the middle from front to back. It was my second molar from the back on my bottom left. Now I have a gaping chasm between my teeth and the last one.


Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2022, 04:43:48 PM
That sucks mate.

Well, I just got home from having a tooth pulled. Yay! The left side of my face is completely numb, but my left bottom jaw if fucking sore as hell.

Elective procedure?

Why would having a tooth pulled be an elective procedure?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 04:49:58 PM
Why would having a tooth pulled be an elective procedure?

 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on April 11, 2022, 05:08:04 PM
Tick? Jeez I forgot about him.
Well he didn’t forget about you!😘

I have not been around for quite awhile. Reason being, I have a new job with a much different dynamic and I have little free time on my hands.
The good news is it’s the best job I’ve ever had and I’m quite happy.

And man has time flown bye. When I joined this forum I mid 40’s and now I’m 57. What the hell…
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 11, 2022, 05:50:18 PM
Tim see, I'm not the only one that feels a disturbance in the Power Windows force.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 06:32:05 PM
Tim see, I'm not the only one that feels a disturbance in the Power Windows force.

I think you tipped him off on facebook. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 06:34:25 PM
Tick? Jeez I forgot about him.
Well he didn’t forget about you!😘

I have not been around for quite awhile. Reason being, I have a new job with a much different dynamic and I have little free time on my hands.
The good news is it’s the best job I’ve ever had and I’m quite happy.

And man has time flown bye. When I joined this forum I mid 40’s and now I’m 57. What the hell…

That's awesome Tick.

See you in 10 months! ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 11, 2022, 06:36:09 PM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2022, 06:38:26 PM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on April 11, 2022, 06:39:59 PM
It definitely sucks to get older.

I had that stomach issue 3 1/2 years ago and it has never been quite the same, so throw in my diet, which isn't always the best, and my levels due to too much sugar at times cause headaches and nausea far more often than I'd like.  Feels like a vicious cycle sometimes where eating something bad makes me feel better, like how someone with a heroine addiction needs it to feel "right."  I have been telling myself for a while that I need to do that sugar detox, but I have not brought myself to do it yet.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Hyperplex on April 12, 2022, 06:47:19 AM
You’re in. Unless of course you have a clean bill of health.

Healthier than I've been in a very long time, but no not a clean bill of health. I've inherited all the wonderful genetic fuckups of my parents and they all hit me earlier than most. I have my physical tomorrow morning, and got most of my lab work back yesterday. Just about all of it is great, but there is always room for improvement. But I am a damn sight better than I was this time last year.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on April 12, 2022, 09:17:00 AM
Coincidence?  Maybe; or maybe my brain was unconsciously dealing with a stress and anxiety that I was in denial over.   

They say stress kills and I'm a pretty big believer in that. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Tick on April 12, 2022, 10:47:57 AM
Tick? Jeez I forgot about him.
Well he didn’t forget about you!😘

I have not been around for quite awhile. Reason being, I have a new job with a much different dynamic and I have little free time on my hands.
The good news is it’s the best job I’ve ever had and I’m quite happy.

And man has time flown bye. When I joined this forum I mid 40’s and now I’m 57. What the hell…

That's awesome Tick.

See you in 10 months! ;D
Starting……..NOW!

🤣
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on May 17, 2022, 07:34:26 AM
Today I’ve joined the 50 club. Where is the AARP thread?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 17, 2022, 07:48:07 AM
Today I’ve joined the 50 club. Where is the AARP thread?

In the recycling bin like all the letters I've received from them.  LOL 

Happy 50th T-Ski!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2022, 08:16:28 AM
Today I’ve joined the 50 club. Where is the AARP thread?

Happy half century.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 17, 2022, 08:44:53 AM
Today I’ve joined the 50 club. Where is the AARP thread?

Congrats....I guess? I'm a mere 4 years away from being there with you! Here's to another 50 for ya  :tup
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on May 17, 2022, 10:27:06 AM
I went to a local college baseball game last week with a friend from work (I'm 54, and he's either 46 or 47, so he hasn't started getting the AARP mailers).  He politely sent me the text from the team's website that discounted tickets were available for "seniors" (which meant those who are 60 or older).  I responded with a Mr. Rodgers middle finger GIF, but I also pointed out that I'll happily accept all the discounts that anyone wants to give me.  I ain't too proud!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 17, 2022, 01:56:38 PM
Thanks to The Lovely Mrs TAC, we've been enjoying AARP benefits for years. ;D
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on May 17, 2022, 02:57:22 PM
Thanks for the well wishes. I don’t feel a day over 49!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 17, 2022, 03:05:45 PM
The Bucks/Celts series must've aged you a couple of years.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on May 17, 2022, 07:04:39 PM
The Bucks/Celts series must've aged you a couple of years.

 :lol

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2022, 05:11:58 AM
I've officially leapt into "old man" territory.... I had to ask jingle.daughter some questions about how to use my new iPhone.  I've had a 'button' model forever, and still back on iOS 13.  So, the new company issued me an iPhone 12, and a few features of the phone and native apps were giving me problems.  Didn't help that I didn't have my cheaters on me, so I could barely see the icons and such in the low light we were in, but still.

:tick:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on May 18, 2022, 07:07:21 AM
I've officially leapt into "old man" territory.... I had to ask jingle.daughter some questions about how to use my new iPhone.  I've had a 'button' model forever, and still back on iOS 13.  So, the new company issued me an iPhone 12, and a few features of the phone and native apps were giving me problems.  Didn't help that I didn't have my cheaters on me, so I could barely see the icons and such in the low light we were in, but still.

:tick:

Uh.... "my cheaters" is kind of the definition of "old man" territory, is it not?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2022, 07:31:59 AM
I've officially leapt into "old man" territory.... I had to ask jingle.daughter some questions about how to use my new iPhone.  I've had a 'button' model forever, and still back on iOS 13.  So, the new company issued me an iPhone 12, and a few features of the phone and native apps were giving me problems.  Didn't help that I didn't have my cheaters on me, so I could barely see the icons and such in the low light we were in, but still.

:tick:

Uh.... "my cheaters" is kind of the definition of "old man" territory, is it not?

I'm still in denial over that.  There are times that my arms are indeed long enough to read certain things.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zook on June 05, 2022, 12:33:50 AM
3 more years and I can join this club. See you then.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 21, 2022, 01:04:43 AM
Hi!

My name is Boom and i'm officially old since a couple of months atleast accordingly to everyone younger than 39. My soul and spirit is still in my 20s though.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 21, 2022, 05:54:32 AM
Hi!

My name is Boom and i'm officially old since a couple of months atleast accordingly to everyone younger than 39. My soul and spirit is still in my 20s though.

Well, welcome. You may wish to avoid drunk texting in the future. Also, having a young spirit will not save you from pulling a rib when trying to get out of bed. Do your stretches before you try to get up.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on June 21, 2022, 10:57:00 AM
Eh, he's only 40.  That crap doesn't start happening until after 50.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on July 26, 2022, 02:49:57 PM
I’ve got a colonoscopy scheduled for Thursday. Just a routine, preventative check, but I’m not looking forward to Wednesday night.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 27, 2022, 08:51:31 AM
I heard about someone who had a colonoscopy and he ended up getting Pancreatitis.  Not really an equitable trade.  :\
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on July 28, 2022, 05:42:25 AM
It can happen, it's very rare, and I personally have never known anybody who's ever had a problem from the procedure. A couple of days of rest to recover from a bruised pancreas isn't ideal, but it still better than losing your life to colon cancer gone undetected.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2022, 06:07:44 AM
In the words of the great Arthur Fonzorelli …. Correct-o-mundo.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on July 28, 2022, 06:19:31 AM
It can happen, it's very rare, and I personally have never known anybody who's ever had a problem from the procedure. A couple of days of rest to recover from a bruised pancreas isn't ideal, but it still better than losing your life to colon cancer gone undetected.

Very true. 

My younger brother, who is 45 now, had his first a few months ago and they found two small polyps which they removed.  And they said had he waited till 50 to get the colonoscopy, it is very likely that he would have had colon cancer. 

I had my first one four years at 45, so I am all good for a while.  The night before kind of sucks with drinking that stuff and having to go to the bathroom 133 times, but the procedure itself was nothing. They knock you out and you wake up and it's over.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 28, 2022, 06:55:22 AM
I think I've mentioned this before in here....but....I've yet to do ANY of the 'grown up' exams that middle aged men should be getting. I'm 46 and my only Dr. visits in the past 20 years were mandatory screenings for employment, and I had a virtual appointment in 2020 because I had a concussion from falling backward into the boards playing Ice Hockey.

I know I need to do these things.....just haven't
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on July 28, 2022, 08:42:19 AM
Honestly, and I'm not trying to make myself out to be a hero or anything, but the complaints about a colonoscopy in my humble opinion are whining.   Sure, you have to go to the doctor.  Sure, you have the shits for 24-hours before.  Sure, you have some minor discomfort in the moment.  That's life.  Even without the downside of cancer - which I've personally watched decimate five people close to me (grandfather, two aunts, an uncle and my dad) - it's a relatively minor intrusion, and when you factor in the brutality of what cancer can (and often does) do, it's that much more of a non-issue.

IMO, and I'll admit to hating the dentist, I have more discomfort in the dentists chair.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on July 28, 2022, 10:02:12 AM
I’ve got a colonoscopy scheduled for Thursday. Just a routine, preventative check, but I’m not looking forward to Wednesday night.

The bathroom was needed until about 12:30 last night and I was good until 6:00am (not on a Christmas morning). Everything seems good after the scope and I ate a big ol’ donut when I got home.

Get yourself screened boys!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 28, 2022, 10:05:24 AM
Honestly, and I'm not trying to make myself out to be a hero or anything, but the complaints about a colonoscopy in my humble opinion are whining.

Everybody has complaints about something.  Opinions and feelings about certain subject matters don't automatically constitute whining.  You have to take into consideration that people deal with certain phobias that can't be helped.  Don't judge.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on July 28, 2022, 10:07:20 AM
Honestly, and I'm not trying to make myself out to be a hero or anything, but the complaints about a colonoscopy in my humble opinion are whining.

Everybody has complaints about something.  Opinions and feelings about certain subject matters don't automatically constitute whining.  You have to take into consideration that people deal with certain phobias that can't be helped.  Don't judge.

Fair enough.  Can't argue that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 28, 2022, 10:33:22 AM
Honestly, and I'm not trying to make myself out to be a hero or anything, but the complaints about a colonoscopy in my humble opinion are whining.

Everybody has complaints about something.  Opinions and feelings about certain subject matters don't automatically constitute whining.  You have to take into consideration that people deal with certain phobias that can't be helped.  Don't judge.

I had to get one done at 44 year old.  They also did a Endoscopy through my mouth.  I joked I must have looked like a pig roast.  LOL   I though the night before was worse, drinking the medication to cleans you and sitting on the toilet for half the night.  They put me out and I never felt a thing.  Woke up groggy and very hungry.  Dad took me out to get a big breakfast.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on July 28, 2022, 10:56:41 AM
I think I've mentioned this before in here....but....I've yet to do ANY of the 'grown up' exams that middle aged men should be getting. I'm 46 and my only Dr. visits in the past 20 years were mandatory screenings for employment, and I had a virtual appointment in 2020 because I had a concussion from falling backward into the boards playing Ice Hockey.

I know I need to do these things.....just haven't

I'm 42, and my doctor isn't concerned with those exams until I hit age 50, or if my bloodwork comes back showing something elevated.  They have been checking my PSA levels in my blood for prostate cancer, though.

I'm dealing with a lot of muscle cramping issues.  My calves are tight, causing plantar faucitis in my feet.  It's awful and some days it feels like I've been on my feet all day long, only an hour after I wake up.  I have stretches to do, which I'm not the best about.  I take a muscle relaxer twice a week and that seems to help for a few days. 

I'm packing up my house to move tomorrow and all of the aches and pains are there after a day of being on my feet and bending over to pack, seal and lift boxes.  Thank god we hired a moving company and all I have to do is pack, break down furniture and re-assemble it at the new house. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 28, 2022, 11:47:07 AM
My thing is, NASA has a new telescope that can see more than 13B years into the universe's past, but doctors can't take a picture of your gut without sticking a camera up your ass.  :lol

Yeah, I realize those are two completely different things, but hey!  The medical community needs to step up their technology a few notches.  The camera up the butt thing with the miserable prep the day before just isn't working for me, and probably not for a lot of other people too.

Besides, my family doesn't have a history of colon cancer, so based on that, I'll take my chances until a more non invasive procedure can be implemented.  Oh and BTW, not doing the Cologuard thing either.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 28, 2022, 11:54:13 AM
Both are Astronauts. AMIRITE?!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 28, 2022, 12:05:50 PM
Asstronauts!  :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on July 28, 2022, 12:27:52 PM
Haha, this thread delivers!  :)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 28, 2022, 12:32:36 PM
In the end, it always will.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2022, 03:56:17 PM
Oh shit what I have to look forward to.  Not far away either........
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 28, 2022, 09:31:17 PM
Oh shit

That is what you have to look forward to. At least, the night before the procedure.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2022, 11:35:41 PM
Oh shit

That is what you have to look forward to. At least, the night before the procedure.

Oh shit
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2022, 04:52:45 AM
Oh shit

That is what you have to look forward to. At least, the night before the procedure.

Not sure you can actually call it "shit".
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on July 29, 2022, 05:03:23 AM
Oh shit

That is what you have to look forward to. At least, the night before the procedure.

Not sure you can actually call it "shit".

In the end, you just want it to stop.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on July 29, 2022, 05:24:27 AM
To everyone who has not gotten a colonoscopy yet, when you do, have a big pack of baby wipes ready for the night before. Trust me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2022, 06:00:19 AM
To everyone who has not gotten a colonoscopy yet, when you do, have a big pack of baby wipes ready for the night before. Trust me.

This is not abnormal to me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on July 29, 2022, 06:13:22 AM
Man, memories of the prep... Yikes..
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 29, 2022, 08:14:38 AM
I understand that it's different for everyone, but you guys sound like a bunch of pussies.  It was inconvenient for sure, but it was also painless.  Take the day off, accept the fact that you'll need to be near the bathroom for six hours or so, and just... let it flow.  Hell, it was a vacation day for me.  Slept in, spent the rest of the morning goofing off, then starting drinking the stuff around Noon.  By evening, it was mostly done and, as I said, it was entirely painless.  That night I slept fine, got up the next day to go in for the procedure (which I remember none of), was home by that afternoon.  If I have to do that every five or 10 years to make sure I don't get ass cancer and die, that's a great trade-off.
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Post by: T-ski on July 29, 2022, 08:21:12 AM
To be honest I was expecting the prep to be worse than what it was. I didn’t start it until late afternoon so I was up until about 1am until it subsided. But other than sitting in the bathroom the majority of the time and not eating for 24 hours, it wasn’t awful.

And yes, moist wipes are a must.

I thought I’d be more hungry after the colonoscopy itself but everything I tried to eat had a tint of the prep drink taste to it.

Curious what peoples go to food was after the scope. I had donuts.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on July 29, 2022, 08:23:00 AM
I understand that it's different for everyone, but you guys sound like a bunch of pussies.  It was inconvenient for sure, but it was also painless.  Take the day off, accept the fact that you'll need to be near the bathroom for six hours or so, and just... let it flow.  Hell, it was a vacation day for me.  Slept in, spent the rest of the morning goofing off, then starting drinking the stuff around Noon.  By evening, it was mostly done and, as I said, it was entirely painless.  That night I slept fine, got up the next day to go in for the procedure (which I remember none of), was home by that afternoon.  If I have to do that every five or 10 years to make sure I don't get ass cancer and die, that's a great trade-off.

I will never trade getting an ass probe for el cancer. Shove stuff up my ass all day, take all the pics you want, after watching two uncles die from cancer, I want none of that shit, and will do whatever it takes to prevent it.


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Post by: Orbert on July 29, 2022, 08:35:41 AM
I probably had some PBJs for lunch afterwards.  That's my go-to for pretty much any occassion.  I also got stoned as hell and enjoyed the second of my two days off on the company dime, although that part I'm sure is optional for most.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on July 29, 2022, 08:45:56 AM
I know that everybody here is saying colonoscopy - no big deal.  Get it done, make sure you are cancer free.  All of this is 100% good advice.

However, I'd just like to point out that there are a lot of people for whom going through the prep and/or the procedure is in fact a very big deal.  Disabled people and older people struggle with the prep especially.  Getting up and down out of their chair/bed and onto a commode can be challenging 1-2x a day but repeatedly for many hours?  That's a lot.

Many people have other medical issues for whom doing the prep can cause pain, discomfort, or potentially trigger other severe medical issues. Diabetics for example need to eat in order to manage their insulin correctly.  Going 24 hours without food can be easy for most, but for diabetics and people with other chronic issues, it is challenging.

Know anyone on the autism spectrum that have severe food aversions?  You think getting them to drink that prep is going to be easy?  I know a few adults on the spectrum that can't even swallow a Tylenol.

Then we have the part of the populace who have suffered sexual abuse.  Some guy wants to shove a tube up your bum now?  Yeah, plenty of people are going to say that is a no-go for them.

Colonoscopies are important, no doubt.  But what is also important is to understand that for many people it isn't as easy as you might think.  And just because it is easy for you, doesn't mean that it works that way for everyone else.
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Post by: Stadler on July 29, 2022, 09:21:40 AM
My dad was handicapped, and my son (step son) is on the spectrum.  There are always individual circumstances to be addressed.  I can't speak for my step son, he's 14 and this is in the far future for him, but for my dad, he worked with his doctor to come up with a solution.  Ironically (or not) he died of cancer, which kind of reinforces for me that it's an important issue to address, even if the mode of addressing it is different for each patient.

I will do better to make sure my posts... let's say, more broadly address the issues.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2022, 10:09:15 AM
Everyone is different Bob. I had a similar experience to yours - didn't even take the day (before) off.  My brother on the other hand, got so dehydrated, he had to go to the ER.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 29, 2022, 10:20:32 AM
Not making light of Harmony's post, but I have a small hemorrhoid down there. Let me tell you, it's a huge pain during prep.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on July 29, 2022, 10:21:33 AM
I still can't see that stuff at a drug store and not get goosebumps. The windshield washer fluid jug of stuff you have to drink. Whoever gave me the advice of "chilling it" in the fridge was spot on. It made it go down easier.
I've had a myriad of docs up my shoot over the years for prostatitis related issues.  It is what it is.

The after colonoscopy recovery area is especially fantastic comedy.....with all the farting. And farting by people who've never farted in their lives and can't help it. The surprised relatives one curtain over who are just mortified by being surrounded by a dozen human tubas.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on July 29, 2022, 10:39:39 AM
With harmony's post in mind, I don't think any of us are making light of the process to play it down for those who may have major physical barriers with it, but to help convince/encourage those who may be averse to the procedure for inconsequential reasons, and may be chancing cancer and tremendous suffering to their families by avoiding a simple medical procedure.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on July 29, 2022, 10:41:17 AM
With harmony's post in mind, I don't think any of us are making light of the process to play it down for those who may have major physical barriers with it, but to help convince/encourage those who may be averse to the procedure for inconsequential reasons, and may be chancing cancer and tremendous suffering to their families by avoiding a simple medical procedure.

Agree.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jammindude on July 29, 2022, 01:25:17 PM
My wife and I scheduled ours for the same day. We made a date out of it.

 :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: TAC on July 29, 2022, 01:36:06 PM
My wife and I scheduled ours for the same day. We made a date out of it.

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Pretty sure that's not the kind of activity the marriage counselor had in mind.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on July 29, 2022, 01:59:06 PM
My wife and I scheduled ours for the same day. We made a date out of it.

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Hope you have two bathrooms.  ;)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on July 29, 2022, 02:12:43 PM
My wife and I scheduled ours for the same day. We made a date out of it.

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Hope you have two bathrooms.  ;)

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.06a39b217fbf14026426433bc6cb5c9a?rik=OpCHkKyhz3SBKw&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
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Post by: Orbert on July 29, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Remember that talk show that William Shatner had for a while?  Remember the weird double-facing seat thing?

(https://imgur.com/ZGpl8sj.jpg)

Now I realize what it reminds me of.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 29, 2022, 02:56:19 PM
Seriously though, Harmony, those are very good points which I hadn't considered.  But as others have said, my point was not to belittle the genuine issues that some people have with the prep, but to try and convince others that the prep isn't (normally) that bad.  No one here has said that it was bad because they're handicapped, or diabetic, or on the spectrum.  It was more "Oh no, I'll have to shit like 10 times!" or "I'll have to drink a gallon of lemonade!" and really, is it that big of a deal to run to the bathroom several times over maybe half a day, once every five or 10 years, to potentially save your life?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on July 29, 2022, 03:22:08 PM
Seriously though, Harmony, those are very good points which I hadn't considered.  But as others have said, my point was not to belittle the genuine issues that some people have with the prep, but to try and convince others that the prep isn't (normally) that bad.  No one here has said that it was bad because they're handicapped, or diabetic, or on the spectrum.  It was more "Oh no, I'll have to shit like 10 times!" or "I'll have to drink a gallon of lemonade!" and really, is it that big of a deal to run to the bathroom several times over maybe half a day, once every five or 10 years, to potentially save your life?

Well, I honestly don't know you or anyone else here well enough to know what their particular situation is.  All I am saying is that a) cancer screenings are good and b) just because something is easy for you or me, doesn't mean it is for others.  Especially if we don't have their whole story.  Someone here on this thread gave a very real and legitimate reason why he may not have an easy time with the prep.  I can respect that.  And even if I still think ultimately his benefit of having a cancer screening outweighs the risk of taking the prep, that is his decision to make.
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Post by: Harmony on July 29, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
The Love Toilet - "Because when you are in love...even fine minutes apart seems like an eternity."  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avb1XbO0EIs
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 29, 2022, 04:08:53 PM
I know that everybody here is saying colonoscopy - no big deal.  Get it done, make sure you are cancer free.  All of this is 100% good advice.

However, I'd just like to point out that there are a lot of people for whom going through the prep and/or the procedure is in fact a very big deal.  Disabled people and older people struggle with the prep especially.  Getting up and down out of their chair/bed and onto a commode can be challenging 1-2x a day but repeatedly for many hours?  That's a lot.

Many people have other medical issues for whom doing the prep can cause pain, discomfort, or potentially trigger other severe medical issues. Diabetics for example need to eat in order to manage their insulin correctly.  Going 24 hours without food can be easy for most, but for diabetics and people with other chronic issues, it is challenging.

Know anyone on the autism spectrum that have severe food aversions?  You think getting them to drink that prep is going to be easy?  I know a few adults on the spectrum that can't even swallow a Tylenol.

Then we have the part of the populace who have suffered sexual abuse.  Some guy wants to shove a tube up your bum now?  Yeah, plenty of people are going to say that is a no-go for them.

Colonoscopies are important, no doubt.  But what is also important is to understand that for many people it isn't as easy as you might think.  And just because it is easy for you, doesn't mean that it works that way for everyone else.

Good points and some of it I eluded to earlier regarding phobias.  I don't think it's easy for anyone, but some people just deal with it better than others and I would never tell anyone to just deal with it.  It's a personal choice.  My late GF used to say that men just aren't used to doctor visits like women because they don't have to go as often for check ups.  Plus, I think women are more prone to taking care of themselves than men, IMO.


and really, is it that big of a deal to run to the bathroom several times over maybe half a day, once every five or 10 years, to potentially save your life?

It can be a big deal if you consider that there are a thousand other ways to get cancer.  A colonoscopy is not a guarantee.  It's like someone telling a smoker that those things will kill ya.  Smoker says, what are ya gonna do, live forever?  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on July 29, 2022, 04:45:13 PM
True, a colonoscopy is not a guarantee.  There are a million ways to die and a thousand ways to get cancer.  I guess I'm the type to play the percentages.  If there's a procedure which can detect problems early the vast majority of the time, especially for a type of cancer that is usually fatal, that's a no-brainer for me.

Also, choosing to engage in something known to cause cancer isn't quite the same as choosing not to get screened for a precancerous condition.  But we all make our choices.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on August 09, 2022, 06:38:17 AM
I was picking weeds in my lawn last night, pinching them between my thumb and the side of my index finger. Maybe 5-10 minutes. Immediately afterwards I could not straighten my index finger all the way. Slept on it hoping it would feel better today. Now it's sore and stiff and I can straighten it even less. It's amazing how many things you do in a day that requires a straight index finger. I'm finding it difficult to do much of anything. Off to the doctor today I guess. Last night I was worried I had popped it out of joint but today it feels more like a super tight tendon or something. Hooray for being injured doing mundane tasks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on August 09, 2022, 08:16:34 AM
My husband and I do a bit when one of us has an ache or pain.  We lifted it from a Dana Carvey special in a segment where he is talking about getting older.

"How'd you hurt your back?"

"I took a nap." 

Hope your finger feels better soon.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 09, 2022, 06:27:29 PM
My first meal after my colonoscopy a few years ago was a huge stacked of pancakes. I destroyed them pretty quickly.  :lol :lol :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 09, 2022, 09:13:58 PM
I was picking weeds in my lawn last night, pinching them between my thumb and the side of my index finger. Maybe 5-10 minutes. Immediately afterwards I could not straighten my index finger all the way. Slept on it hoping it would feel better today. Now it's sore and stiff and I can straighten it even less. It's amazing how many things you do in a day that requires a straight index finger. I'm finding it difficult to do much of anything. Off to the doctor today I guess. Last night I was worried I had popped it out of joint but today it feels more like a super tight tendon or something. Hooray for being injured doing mundane tasks.

Sounds like potential trigger finger. I never heard of it until someone in my old bowling league came down with it.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 10, 2022, 07:06:58 AM
My husband and I do a bit when one of us has an ache or pain.  We lifted it from a Dana Carvey special in a segment where he is talking about getting older.

"How'd you hurt your back?"

"I took a nap." 

 :lol   Just had this near identical conversation with my 12  year old son on Sunday. We were out running errands together and my back had a little knot/crick in it dead in the mid back between my shoulders.....just enough discomfort to be annoying but certainly nothing to where I couldn't function. I complained about it a couple times and he asked me how I hurt it....to which I told him.....sleeping. Told him that when you're older sometimes you just wake up and something is hurting and you have no freaking idea why  :lol
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Post by: Cool Chris on August 10, 2022, 07:13:10 AM
Gary, if you get aches and pains like that have you ever considered going to get a massage?  :)
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Post by: Stadler on August 10, 2022, 07:22:22 AM
Gary, if you get aches and pains like that have you ever considered going to get a massage?  :)

HAHAHA
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Post by: Zydar on August 10, 2022, 07:22:31 AM
Oh my :lol
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Post by: gmillerdrake on August 10, 2022, 07:22:51 AM
 
Gary, if you get aches and pains like that have you ever considered going to get a massage?  :)

 :lol
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Post by: lordxizor on August 10, 2022, 07:39:44 AM
I was picking weeds in my lawn last night, pinching them between my thumb and the side of my index finger. Maybe 5-10 minutes. Immediately afterwards I could not straighten my index finger all the way. Slept on it hoping it would feel better today. Now it's sore and stiff and I can straighten it even less. It's amazing how many things you do in a day that requires a straight index finger. I'm finding it difficult to do much of anything. Off to the doctor today I guess. Last night I was worried I had popped it out of joint but today it feels more like a super tight tendon or something. Hooray for being injured doing mundane tasks.

Sounds like potential trigger finger. I never heard of it until someone in my old bowling league came down with it.
Yeah, I read about that. Possible, but I'm lacking some of the symptoms. I got examined yesterday and they did an xray and mri which showed no bone, muscle, or tendon damage and everything is in the right place. So that's good. But why the he'll does my finger not move correctly? They were kinda stumped. I'm just supposed to give it time and see what happens, then maybe do physical therapy or talk to a surgeon if it won't get better.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 10, 2022, 07:41:19 AM
I was picking weeds in my lawn last night, pinching them between my thumb and the side of my index finger. Maybe 5-10 minutes. Immediately afterwards I could not straighten my index finger all the way. Slept on it hoping it would feel better today. Now it's sore and stiff and I can straighten it even less. It's amazing how many things you do in a day that requires a straight index finger. I'm finding it difficult to do much of anything. Off to the doctor today I guess. Last night I was worried I had popped it out of joint but today it feels more like a super tight tendon or something. Hooray for being injured doing mundane tasks.

Sounds like potential trigger finger. I never heard of it until someone in my old bowling league came down with it.
Yeah, I read about that. Possible, but I'm lacking some of the symptoms. I got examined yesterday and they did an xray and mri which showed no bone, muscle, or tendon damage and everything is in the right place. So that's good. But why the he'll does my finger not move correctly? They were kinda stumped. I'm just supposed to give it time and see what happens, then maybe do physical therapy or talk to a surgeon if it won't get better.

Man....this is a strange one. Best of luck to you and I hope your finger returns to normal quickly.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 12, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
My husband and I do a bit when one of us has an ache or pain.  We lifted it from a Dana Carvey special in a segment where he is talking about getting older.

"How'd you hurt your back?"

"I took a nap." 

 :lol   Just had this near identical conversation with my 12  year old son on Sunday. We were out running errands together and my back had a little knot/crick in it dead in the mid back between my shoulders.....just enough discomfort to be annoying but certainly nothing to where I couldn't function. I complained about it a couple times and he asked me how I hurt it....to which I told him.....sleeping. Told him that when you're older sometimes you just wake up and something is hurting and you have no freaking idea why  :lol

Sad but true.  My advice is to get some tiger balm from the store.  You can get a little jar of it for less than 10 bucks and it is a godsend.  Any time I feel a little ache or pain in my neck or back, I just rub a little on there and it helps a lot.  And, yeah, as we get older, more aches and pains creep up, so we gotta do what we can do help ourselves.

On an unrelated note, I can't remember if I mentioned it here, but I had carpal tunnel syndrome last year in both hands/arms, but my PT showed me some easy exercises which worked like a charm and it was basically gone a month later.  However, it came back in my right arm (I am right-handed) when I got Covid back in early May and has lingered a bit since.  Pretty annoying, but just another brick in the wall of the little nagging health issues I have before I turned 50 next year.  :eek :eek
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Post by: Harmony on August 17, 2022, 12:15:44 PM
Woke up at 3 am.  Stuffy nostril/feeling dry from AC so used my handy nasal saline spray.  Realized while squeezing that my thumb knuckle on my dominant hand is swollen twice its normal size and acutely painful.  Could not get back to sleep until some Advil kicked in.  It still hurts like hell.

I have no fucking idea what is wrong with it.  ::)
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Post by: Stadler on August 17, 2022, 12:31:18 PM
A bite?

So I got bitten by something - bee or spider, I presume - about three, four weeks ago. Next day, my right arm blew up like friggin' Popeye.   I couldn't hold a pen, and I couldn't make a fist.  THEN, what looked like poison ivy appeared.   I went to the doctor (well, walk in) and they said well, it's definitely poison ivy, but if you got bit, we'll give you an antibiotic.  Which I did take, diligently.  The redness didn't move up my arm and in about three days the swelling went down and in about five days, the poison ivy went away.   To this day, though, I STILL have a little bump and pinhole scab where I thought the bite occurred (it looks like a pimple, but with a scab instead of a white head), and it still itches like hell. I'll post a picture when I can.

The point is, bites are insidious.

(https://i.imgur.com/lumDtM6.jpg)
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Post by: Snow Dog on August 17, 2022, 10:02:32 PM
I was picking weeds in my lawn last night, pinching them between my thumb and the side of my index finger. Maybe 5-10 minutes. Immediately afterwards I could not straighten my index finger all the way. Slept on it hoping it would feel better today. Now it's sore and stiff and I can straighten it even less. It's amazing how many things you do in a day that requires a straight index finger. I'm finding it difficult to do much of anything. Off to the doctor today I guess. Last night I was worried I had popped it out of joint but today it feels more like a super tight tendon or something. Hooray for being injured doing mundane tasks.

Sounds like potential trigger finger. I never heard of it until someone in my old bowling league came down with it.
Yeah, I read about that. Possible, but I'm lacking some of the symptoms. I got examined yesterday and they did an xray and mri which showed no bone, muscle, or tendon damage and everything is in the right place. So that's good. But why the he'll does my finger not move correctly? They were kinda stumped. I'm just supposed to give it time and see what happens, then maybe do physical therapy or talk to a surgeon if it won't get better.

Physical therapist here, and curious as to how this is doing. I’m no hand therapist, but the only things I can think of that would cause this would be tendon irritation, a tight/inflamed joint capsule, or swelling and inflammation inside the joint itself. Thankfully the imaging ruled out anything more serious, but the activity that caused your symptoms was so mild I’d hardly expect that. Just sounds like a general overuse condition.

Have you tried ice on the area, and/or did your doctor suggest anti-inflammatory meds? Otherwise sounds like his plan is pretty reasonable. Just try to keep it moving as is tolerable so the stiffness doesn’t worsen. And if things don’t clear up, a physical therapy evaluation could absolutely be warranted. Hope things are already feeling better, and if not, that they do soon!
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Post by: lordxizor on August 18, 2022, 05:39:04 AM
I was picking weeds in my lawn last night, pinching them between my thumb and the side of my index finger. Maybe 5-10 minutes. Immediately afterwards I could not straighten my index finger all the way. Slept on it hoping it would feel better today. Now it's sore and stiff and I can straighten it even less. It's amazing how many things you do in a day that requires a straight index finger. I'm finding it difficult to do much of anything. Off to the doctor today I guess. Last night I was worried I had popped it out of joint but today it feels more like a super tight tendon or something. Hooray for being injured doing mundane tasks.

Sounds like potential trigger finger. I never heard of it until someone in my old bowling league came down with it.
Yeah, I read about that. Possible, but I'm lacking some of the symptoms. I got examined yesterday and they did an xray and mri which showed no bone, muscle, or tendon damage and everything is in the right place. So that's good. But why the he'll does my finger not move correctly? They were kinda stumped. I'm just supposed to give it time and see what happens, then maybe do physical therapy or talk to a surgeon if it won't get better.

Physical therapist here, and curious as to how this is doing. I’m no hand therapist, but the only things I can think of that would cause this would be tendon irritation, a tight/inflamed joint capsule, or swelling and inflammation inside the joint itself. Thankfully the imaging ruled out anything more serious, but the activity that caused your symptoms was so mild I’d hardly expect that. Just sounds like a general overuse condition.

Have you tried ice on the area, and/or did your doctor suggest anti-inflammatory meds? Otherwise sounds like his plan is pretty reasonable. Just try to keep it moving as is tolerable so the stiffness doesn’t worsen. And if things don’t clear up, a physical therapy evaluation could absolutely be warranted. Hope things are already feeling better, and if not, that they do soon!
I was packing up to go camping for a long weekend a few days after my finger started acting up. I was shoving something into the camper and my finger let out an audible pop with a sharp pain. The movement was back to normal afterward. It was sore for a few more days, but is now completely fine. I don't know if it was slightly dislocated and the doc just couldn't see it or what. I cannot state how relieved I am that this cleared up on it's own. I was freaking out that there was permanent damage. I couldn't do much of anything without pain for a few days.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on August 18, 2022, 09:07:55 AM
A bite?

So I got bitten by something - bee or spider, I presume - about three, four weeks ago. Next day, my right arm blew up like friggin' Popeye.   I couldn't hold a pen, and I couldn't make a fist.  THEN, what looked like poison ivy appeared.   I went to the doctor (well, walk in) and they said well, it's definitely poison ivy, but if you got bit, we'll give you an antibiotic.  Which I did take, diligently.  The redness didn't move up my arm and in about three days the swelling went down and in about five days, the poison ivy went away.   To this day, though, I STILL have a little bump and pinhole scab where I thought the bite occurred (it looks like a pimple, but with a scab instead of a white head), and it still itches like hell. I'll post a picture when I can.

The point is, bites are insidious.

I guess it could've been.  I had been out working in the garden.  I just don't remember being bitten and the skin looked intact.  No redness really, no itching.  Thankfully it is better today.  Still swollen a bit but much less painful.  Reading about lordxizor's issue makes me appreciate that it wasn't worse!  My heart goes out to people who have arthritis and have to deal with chronic pain every day. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 18, 2022, 09:12:44 AM
A bite?

So I got bitten by something - bee or spider, I presume - about three, four weeks ago. Next day, my right arm blew up like friggin' Popeye.   I couldn't hold a pen, and I couldn't make a fist.  THEN, what looked like poison ivy appeared.   I went to the doctor (well, walk in) and they said well, it's definitely poison ivy, but if you got bit, we'll give you an antibiotic.  Which I did take, diligently.  The redness didn't move up my arm and in about three days the swelling went down and in about five days, the poison ivy went away.   To this day, though, I STILL have a little bump and pinhole scab where I thought the bite occurred (it looks like a pimple, but with a scab instead of a white head), and it still itches like hell. I'll post a picture when I can.

The point is, bites are insidious.

(https://i.imgur.com/lumDtM6.jpg)
Maybe get that checked out again just in case.  My wife's aunt had a brown recluse bite that started out looking just like that.  She has had all kinds of trouble stemming from that (I don't want to get into it here, but I wouldn't wish it on my most bitter enemy).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on September 01, 2022, 03:16:54 PM
As we continue to initiate more and more people into this thread, I'd like to make a motion to rename this thread to:

"The DTF Old As Mold TAC Club"

Just because Tim is Tim...

Do I have a second?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 01, 2022, 03:26:08 PM
Initiation is bitching about everything all day.


I confessed to my wife that I've been feeling really bitchy lately, and she was like....no, really??  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2022, 03:42:23 PM
Initiation is bitching about everything all day.


I confessed to my wife that I've been feeling really bitchy lately, and she was like....no, really??  :lol

Ouch. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on September 01, 2022, 03:43:57 PM
Tim needs that top 40 Dokken countdown to yank the crabs out of him.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2022, 03:45:40 PM
A Dr. Demento style playlist featuring funny song we think are about Tim.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 01, 2022, 03:46:55 PM
Tim needs that top 40 Dokken countdown to yank the crabs out of him.

I couldn't go 40 deep with Dokken.

I will say that Don Dokken came off as the biggest dick on stage back in the day.

I saw them in 1995 when they reunited and they were freaking awesome though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on September 01, 2022, 03:48:06 PM
I could maybe go 4 deep with Dokken. :lol :lol :lol

I will stand by Heaven Sent as being a great song, though. That one has held up extremely well.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2022, 03:50:14 PM
They were one of the better hair metal bands in the 80's.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on September 01, 2022, 04:06:21 PM
DAMN IT I DON'T SEE A SECOND!

lol.

Tim, you, bitchy? Surely not...  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 01, 2022, 04:16:22 PM

Tim, you, bitchy? Surely not...  :lol


You know what I see when I look in the mirror??

(https://cdn.britannica.com/77/198677-050-A03FD65C/Roseanne-Barr-2018.jpg?w=400&h=300&c=crop)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2022, 04:35:13 PM

Tim, you, bitchy? Surely not...  :lol


You know what I see when I look in the mirror??

(https://cdn.britannica.com/77/198677-050-A03FD65C/Roseanne-Barr-2018.jpg?w=400&h=300&c=crop)

I've always known you were a terrible singer.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on September 01, 2022, 04:53:12 PM
I could maybe go 4 deep with Dokken. :lol :lol :lol

I will stand by Heaven Sent as being a great song, though. That one has held up extremely well.

I could probably do a top 5!

I heard Alone Again recently for the first time in who knows how long.  THAT is a damn good song!


And isn't saying that Dokken was one of the better hair metal bands a little like saying that someone is one of the better Nigerian ice hockey players?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2022, 05:21:31 PM
 :lol

If you said Jamaican it would have worked better. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2022, 08:06:54 PM
I could probably go top 25 with Dokken.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 01, 2022, 10:31:05 PM
As we continue to initiate more and more people into this thread, I'd like to make a motion to rename this thread to:

"The DTF Old As Mold TAC Club"

Just because Tim is Tim...

Do I have a second?

Seconded!

I could not even go 1 deep with Dokken. Never could stand them. I do have a growing non-Dokken collection of George Lynch though. I wish Ultraphonix would do another album.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 23, 2022, 09:00:03 PM
So some of you might have followed the recent issues my wife has been having over in the depressed thread. I mentioned there that I ended up developing prostatitis, most likely as a result of stress. I guess 50% of men can expect to experience this. Let me tell you, you don't want it.

I had to cut caffeine cold turkey which was not easy. Two days in a row I had major symptoms after a single can of pop (I'm Midwestern, it's pop). Caffeine is a major trigger of it. I am now almost 2 weeks clean of caffeine. Longest of my life. I quit due to a flare up on 9/11 that was excruciating. It does not hurt, per se. It's more of an uncomfortable pressure. It's agonizing. I can't tell you how many doctors have told me I have a ridiculously high threshold for pain yet this thing just cut me down.

I had a flare up out of nowhere on Wednesday. It was worse than the one on 9/11. It even came with a massive muscle ache in my back. I gave up and threw down a muscle relaxer. So glad I did, it relieved everything. About 8 hours later it came back with a vengeance. Took another relaxer. On Thursday, nothing. No pressure, no back pain, nothing. Like it never happened. I saw my doctor on Tuesday just to chat about it and treatment. Now I have an appointment with a urologist after the recent flare up. Getting old sucks. Told my Doc about the muscle relaxer and he told me to just let him know if I need more. I hope I don't, but at least I know how to get pretty quick relief if it happens again.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ReaperKK on September 23, 2022, 09:23:45 PM
So some of you might have followed the recent issues my wife has been having over in the depressed thread. I mentioned there that I ended up developing prostatitis, most likely as a result of stress. I guess 50% of men can expect to experience this. Let me tell you, you don't want it.

I had to cut caffeine cold turkey which was not easy. Two days in a row I had major symptoms after a single can of pop (I'm Midwestern, it's pop). Caffeine is a major trigger of it. I am now almost 2 weeks clean of caffeine. Longest of my life. I quit due to a flare up on 9/11 that was excruciating. It does not hurt, per se. It's more of an uncomfortable pressure. It's agonizing. I can't tell you how many doctors have told me I have a ridiculously high threshold for pain yet this thing just cut me down.

I had a flare up out of nowhere on Wednesday. It was worse than the one on 9/11. It even came with a massive muscle ache in my back. I gave up a threw down a muscle relaxer. So glad I did, it relieved everything. About 8 hours later it came back with a vengeance. Took another relaxer. On Thursday, nothing. No pressure, no back pain, nothing. Like it never happened. I saw my doctor on Tuesday just to chat about it and treatment. Now I have an appointment with a urologist after the recent flare up. Getting old sucks. Told my Doc about the muscle relaxer and he told me to just let him know if I need more. I hope I don't, but at least I know how to get pretty quick relief if it happens again.

I had to google what this is and it sounds brutal, I'm really sorry to read about all the issues internet hug
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 23, 2022, 10:16:04 PM
Thanks, man. Yeah, it is brutal. For me, the best as I can describe it is just a really uncomfortable pressure right in my ding-dong. It was so bad on Wednesday I could not even take my wife to her next doctor appointment because I was in agony. Had to find someone else to take her. Like I said, it isn't pain. At least for me, I can't say it hurts. It's something different but just as bad.

My wife knows that when I am showing any sign of pain or discomfort, it's bad. It was bad.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on September 23, 2022, 11:40:30 PM
Sorry to hear this Professor.  I have struggled off and on with prostrate problems for years.  For me the pressure around the prostate was unbearable, like a vice grip in that area.  Stress is said to be a big factor.  I also take Saw Palmetto standard extract daily and this seems to help.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2022, 06:21:40 AM
Fuck man, that sounds just terrible.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 06, 2022, 10:50:20 AM
I'm 46 and understand that I'm aging and I'm "no spring chicken" any longer. I get it. But it's still weird to be called 'sir' by younger people. I'm not a 'sir' in my mind. But I know that half my facial hair is either white or gray.....I no longer have just 'black' hair.....some could use the term 'salt and pepper'.....I intellectually understand what's going on here. But it's still weird because my mind just isn't accepting that I actually have aged to the point where I'm firmly in 'sir' territory  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on October 06, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
I'm 46 and understand that I'm aging and I'm "no spring chicken" any longer. I get it. But it's still weird to be called 'sir' by younger people. I'm not a 'sir' in my mind. But I know that half my facial hair is either white or gray.....I no longer have just 'black' hair.....some could use the term 'salt and pepper'.....I intellectually understand what's going on here. But it's still weird because my mind just isn't accepting that I actually have aged to the point where I'm firmly in 'sir' territory  :lol

Spot-on.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on October 06, 2022, 11:13:46 AM
I've been a senior for over a year now.  Don't feel like a senior and I'm still not up to speed on the grocery store discounts. :dunno:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on October 06, 2022, 11:47:58 AM
I'm 46 and understand that I'm aging and I'm "no spring chicken" any longer. I get it. But it's still weird to be called 'sir' by younger people. I'm not a 'sir' in my mind. But I know that half my facial hair is either white or gray.....I no longer have just 'black' hair.....some could use the term 'salt and pepper'.....I intellectually understand what's going on here. But it's still weird because my mind just isn't accepting that I actually have aged to the point where I'm firmly in 'sir' territory  :lol

Spot-on.  :lol

I'm on board with this too; its the worst with people age like 21 to 26, and especially women. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on October 06, 2022, 11:57:24 AM
I got the senior discount at a grocery store the other day. I'm 41.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on October 06, 2022, 11:58:38 AM
I got the senior discount at a grocery store the other day. I'm 41.  :lol

That's a fucking score! Grocery prices are insane (another thing us old guys now talk about).
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 06, 2022, 12:18:15 PM
I'm 46 and understand that I'm aging and I'm "no spring chicken" any longer. I get it. But it's still weird to be called 'sir' by younger people. I'm not a 'sir' in my mind. But I know that half my facial hair is either white or gray.....I no longer have just 'black' hair.....some could use the term 'salt and pepper'.....I intellectually understand what's going on here. But it's still weird because my mind just isn't accepting that I actually have aged to the point where I'm firmly in 'sir' territory  :lol

Spot-on.  :lol

I'm on board with this too; its the worst with people age like 21 to 26, and especially women.

What prompted my post was that I was “Sir’d” by a Union welder today in the job site several times during a conversation. Guy is probably mid to late 20’s….clearly well mannered but he hit me with that ‘sir’ like five times  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on October 06, 2022, 12:30:25 PM
Maybe he was just pissed at you and trying to stay polite and professional?  :lol

I get that...all the time.  :rollin
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 06, 2022, 12:41:26 PM
Maybe he was just pissed at you and trying to stay polite and professional?  :lol

I get that...all the time.  :rollin

That's 100% a probability.....my company is running this job and he's one of our subs....so....he could have just been kissing a$$  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on October 06, 2022, 01:12:15 PM
Part of me is still thrown sometimes when I'm called "Sir" but usually I recover quickly and just embrace it.  Fuck yeah, I'm "sir" to you, BOY!  Now fill my coffee and where the hell is that English Muffin I ordered?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on October 06, 2022, 01:19:14 PM
Sir has never bothered me. What else is someone supposed to call me when they're trying to be polite? Dude? Man? Guy?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 06, 2022, 01:23:34 PM
Sir has never bothered me. What else is someone supposed to call me when they're trying to be polite? Dude? Man? Guy?

Nope.. it's Guy Mann Dude!!

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51ECN1nAJSL._SY580_.jpg)

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 06, 2022, 01:43:03 PM
I'm 50 now, and you bet your sweet ass I deserve a "sir" from youngsters.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 06, 2022, 01:48:00 PM
I'm 50 now, and you bet your sweet ass I deserve a "sir" from youngsters.

It's good to know that manners and respect are still out there....but, as I said....something in my head still makes it when I hear someone call me 'sir'...just not sound right to me? Maybe it's just straight denial that I'm of 'sir' age now but I don't believe I mind it all that much.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on October 06, 2022, 01:54:50 PM
Sir has never bothered me. What else is someone supposed to call me when they're trying to be polite? Dude? Man? Guy?

You should see what I call Tim!  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 06, 2022, 02:00:56 PM
Sir has never bothered me. What else is someone supposed to call me when they're trying to be polite? Dude? Man? Guy?

No, I get it. As I mentioned....it's just my inability gracefully accept I'm in the 'sir' realm of aging.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: romdrums on October 06, 2022, 02:13:57 PM
I don't feel like I've gotten a whole lot of "Sirs" yet, but I'm starting to see that we're hiring people now that I'm old enough to be their dad.  I just turned 45 last week, and was telling one of them that I've been a DT fan since 1992, and they were like, "Wow, that's cool.  I wasn't even born until 1997."  Damn kids!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: T-ski on October 06, 2022, 03:34:25 PM
I’m sure I’ve been called sir quite a bit over the last few years but never noticed it. No doubt I’ll hear it 100 times a day now that it’s been brought to my attention.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 06, 2022, 05:17:29 PM
I'm OK with sir. It is what it is. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on October 06, 2022, 05:24:22 PM
Maybe it is just me, but I think more of "sir" as a term of respect, rather than a way of addressing an older person.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on October 06, 2022, 05:59:41 PM
Maybe it is just me, but I think more of "sir" as a term of respect, rather than a way of addressing an older person.
Winner. I remember the first time somebody called me sir, small talk standing in line for BBQ, and it kind of took me aback because our respective ages were only like 40 and 35.  I was a peer--not an elder. Then it occurred to me that he was just one of the millions of Texans who were raised to address adults as sir and ma'am. Particularly if you're raised outside of a city, and I've no doubt this guy was, that sort of courtesy is instilled from a young age.

I actually appreciated it so much that my usage of sir and Ma'am increased tenfold after that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on October 06, 2022, 07:00:02 PM
What prompted my post was that I was “Sir’d” by a Union welder today in the job site several times during a conversation.

I've noticed since I've been working in the trades that calling people "sir" seems to be a thing in the industry.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on October 06, 2022, 07:04:57 PM
Sir has never really been a big deal. One side of my company is to call their managers by Mr. (last name), which was weird for me. So I would be paged Mr. (my last name).

Or some lady would say to their kid..."now give that to the man", meaning me. WTF? When did I become a man?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on October 06, 2022, 07:49:56 PM
Maybe it is just me, but I think more of "sir" as a term of respect, rather than a way of addressing an older person.
Winner. I remember the first time somebody called me sir, small talk standing in line for BBQ, and it kind of took me aback because our respective ages were only like 40 and 35.  I was a peer--not an elder. Then it occurred to me that he was just one of the millions of Texans who were raised to address adults as sir and ma'am. Particularly if you're raised outside of a city, and I've no doubt this guy was, that sort of courtesy is instilled from a young age.

I actually appreciated it so much that my usage of sir and Ma'am increased tenfold after that.

Well said. I use "sir" and "ma'am" often, simply as a matter of courtesy. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on October 07, 2022, 12:22:43 AM
I have been thinking about this quite a lot lately. I don't actually feel like someone in their mid-40s (except when my back hurts, I need a nap, etc...). I am someone who's never had a "career"-type job with the associated salary, someone who prefers Panda Express and a Pepsi over foie gras and a Chardonnay, someone who is more comfortable on the couch with my kids than a dinner party with grown-ups. I see other people my age and think "now, that's a person in their middle age [for better or worse]" while I don't say that when I see myself in the mirror.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on October 07, 2022, 08:29:45 AM
Maybe it is just me, but I think more of "sir" as a term of respect, rather than a way of addressing an older person.

Maybe it's having respect for elders.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2022, 01:46:32 PM
When I have kids in at work, it's not uncommon for some of the teenage age kids to call me 'sir' if I serve them or help them or whatever.  Calling the teachers sir is pretty normal so it just rubs off I guess.  I never really took it as an age thing but I will admit being called it by kids at 38 is amusing.  But teachers over here these days are almost as young as the kids sometimes so it's not really relative.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: nobloodyname on October 09, 2022, 03:29:32 AM
I don't feel like I've gotten a whole lot of "Sirs" yet, but I'm starting to see that we're hiring people now that I'm old enough to be their dad.  I just turned 45 last week, and was telling one of them that I've been a DT fan since 1992, and they were like, "Wow, that's cool.  I wasn't even born until 1997."  Damn kids!

I'm 49, not far off 50. Got into a conversation on Teams with somebody on my company's customer helpdesk a few weeks ago. Noticed he had some sort of death metal-styled t-shirt on so I mentioned it (I've got long hair so people generally think I'm into rock). He must have been mid-20s. Turns out he's a big Death fan so I reached into my vinyls and pulled out Spiritual Healing. He was beside himself with excitemement and admiration, "oh my god, is that the ORIGINAL release?!", he asked. I have honestly never felt so old as I did in that moment.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: nobloodyname on October 09, 2022, 03:35:49 AM
I have been thinking about this quite a lot lately. I don't actually feel like someone in their mid-40s (except when my back hurts, I need a nap, etc...). I am someone who's never had a "career"-type job with the associated salary, someone who prefers Panda Express and a Pepsi over foie gras and a Chardonnay, someone who is more comfortable on the couch with my kids than a dinner party with grown-ups. I see other people my age and think "now, that's a person in their middle age [for better or worse]" while I don't say that when I see myself in the mirror.

Comes into even sharper focus when you find yourself back on a dating site in your late 40s, believe me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 24, 2022, 08:50:36 AM
Had my first ever cystoscopy yesterday at my Urologist's office. Let me tell you, not a fan. Quite uncomfortable, especially when they move through the prostate. Wowzers, not a nice sensation. Turns out, I have BPH, otherwise known as an enlarged prostate. Might have something to do with the prostatitis attack I had recently. I'm on meds now to calm the muscles around the prostate and hopefully bring some relief.

It's wonderful getting old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: DragonAttack on December 24, 2022, 09:23:35 AM
My best friend has been dealing with the same thing recently.  As with him, all I can do is offer my sympathy and best wishes.   :tup

(and I'm wondering if that's in my not to distant future.....)

I'm finally 99% over my sixteen day flu/cold....which used to last 7-10 days (my first since before the pandemic).  Even got a flu shot this year, which reminded me of a line in M*A*S*H:

Hawkeye:  "Margaret, remember that flu shot you gave me?  Well, it worked, I got it!"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on January 11, 2023, 12:16:35 PM
There will be no oscopy's of any kind for this crotchety old bastard.  :hat
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on February 06, 2023, 12:54:37 PM
I went to a barber yesterday.  Regular price was $17.  $14 for military/seniors/kids.  I got off the chair, and the guy charged me $14.

Sigh....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2023, 12:56:23 PM
Nice. I have actually stopped going to the barber. My 20 y/o just puts the half inch clippers on and buzzes me. Got my hair cut Saturday.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on February 06, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Nice. I have actually stopped going to the barber. My 20 y/o just puts the half inch clippers on and buzzes me. Got my hair cut Saturday.

That's exactly what I do most of the time (I do it myself, with or without my 20yo's assistance).  I had a reason this time for wanting it done by a professional, though.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on February 06, 2023, 01:12:18 PM
About six months ago, I did something I never, ever, thought I'd do. I stopped going to the barbershop/franchise haircutter, and have a monthly appointment with a family friend who is a hairstylist. My hair isn't difficult. I mean, it's your standard curly hair Italian thing. I keep it short. But to not have to wait for like 20 minutes to get it cut, or ask anyone to do it, it's like the best $40 a month I've ever spent. She charges 30, I give her 40, and I never have to wait, I'm in, I'm out, my hair looks good (at least as good as it can for us old fogeys), and I repeat...no waiting. Ever.

I was at this point six months ago where I told Mrs. Samsara that I was just going to have her start shaving my hair down to a 1 be done with it, just because I hated playing these games of being put on a list at Supercuts or GreatClips, or whatever run of the mill franchise is out there (or putting up with barbers who I just don't want to BS with). I went to like four different local places, on differing days of the week, and they were all like a 20 minute wait at minimum. I was done. Then my friend's soon-to-be daughter in law said she'd cut my hair, at the salon she rents a chair at, and I haven't looked back. Yeah, $40 a month for a short haircut is a little steep, but it's absolutely worth the saving of my time. Money well spent.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 06, 2023, 01:19:15 PM
I'm glad I no longer have to worry about haircuts.

Of course, my razor budget may be higher than yours lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2023, 01:41:06 PM
I'm glad I no longer have to worry about haircuts.

Of course, my razor budget may be higher than yours lol

I have not gone to a barber/stylist in 26 years - more than 1/2 my life now.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/07a8ddd7bf7de5ab9ea7a66ea66ceb2d/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 06, 2023, 01:42:24 PM
June will mark 30 years for me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2023, 01:46:34 PM
June will mark 30 years for me.

Quit bragging.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 06, 2023, 01:54:10 PM
June will mark 30 years for me.

Quit bragging.
Not bragging. 

Crying, maybe.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on February 06, 2023, 02:04:44 PM
I'm never bitching about my short, curly hair ever again.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2023, 02:44:10 PM
I'm glad I no longer have to worry about haircuts.

Of course, my razor budget may be higher than yours lol

I have not gone to a barber/stylist in 26 years - more than 1/2 my life now.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/07a8ddd7bf7de5ab9ea7a66ea66ceb2d/tenor.gif)

 :lol

When it's all on your pillow in every morning, who needs to go and have a haircut anyway!?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on February 07, 2023, 12:05:56 PM
About six months ago, I did something I never, ever, thought I'd do. I stopped going to the barbershop/franchise haircutter, and have a monthly appointment with a family friend who is a hairstylist. My hair isn't difficult. I mean, it's your standard curly hair Italian thing. I keep it short. But to not have to wait for like 20 minutes to get it cut, or ask anyone to do it, it's like the best $40 a month I've ever spent. She charges 30, I give her 40, and I never have to wait, I'm in, I'm out, my hair looks good (at least as good as it can for us old fogeys), and I repeat...no waiting. Ever.

I was at this point six months ago where I told Mrs. Samsara that I was just going to have her start shaving my hair down to a 1 be done with it, just because I hated playing these games of being put on a list at Supercuts or GreatClips, or whatever run of the mill franchise is out there (or putting up with barbers who I just don't want to BS with). I went to like four different local places, on differing days of the week, and they were all like a 20 minute wait at minimum. I was done. Then my friend's soon-to-be daughter in law said she'd cut my hair, at the salon she rents a chair at, and I haven't looked back. Yeah, $40 a month for a short haircut is a little steep, but it's absolutely worth the saving of my time. Money well spent.

Before 2020, I would go to Great Clips once a month.  If you use their mobile app, you can check in online, see the wait time, and then not have to wait in the store.  When you arrive, you get bumped to the front of the line.  That was pretty painless.  When I was a younger, our family would go to a neighbor's house and pay them directly.  My parents still do that 30 years later.

In 2020, when our state closed barber shops and salons due to the pandemic, we bought professional style clippers and I just do it myself.  I buzz it down to a 1 to make it low maintenance and can clip it again when I need to.  I haven't spent money on a haircut in 3 years, my hair looks decent, and I save $20 a month.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: mike099 on February 07, 2023, 06:59:38 PM
Had my first ever cystoscopy yesterday at my Urologist's office. Let me tell you, not a fan. Quite uncomfortable, especially when they move through the prostate. Wowzers, not a nice sensation. Turns out, I have BPH, otherwise known as an enlarged prostate. Might have something to do with the prostatitis attack I had recently. I'm on meds now to calm the muscles around the prostate and hopefully bring some relief.

It's wonderful getting old.

I am 65 and was first diagnosed with BPH at the age of 40.  Basically it felt like a vice grip on my prostate.  I have been taking Saw Palmetto -standard extract for years and have no had another episode.  Back then and probably now, doctors question the effect of the supplement.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on February 22, 2023, 05:00:42 PM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on February 22, 2023, 05:01:32 PM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?

It's not just you.  Trust me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on February 22, 2023, 05:05:23 PM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?

It's not just you.  Trust me.

Thank god!  I swear every day someone says something to me and the first thought I have is, "Who gives a shit?!?"  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on February 22, 2023, 05:10:25 PM
I am guessing it is a combination of getting older and realizing that such trivial things don't register as much of a reaction or care and other issues in life being much more of a distraction/concern.  That is my short answer.  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on February 22, 2023, 05:17:44 PM
I think I'm turning into Larry David.   :lol

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/26a0cb3b-3807-404c-8ef5-1fd169cd56c1/gif
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on February 22, 2023, 06:30:40 PM
For me a lot of has to do with Covid. My company was shut down for months; my kid was shut out of her school for a year and couldn't go to birthday parties or play with her friends; my wife had to teach her special needs class from our kitchen table via a freaking Zoom meeting; I saw my parents less; and so on. Sometime in late 2020, when it seemed like me and my family were going to get through this one way or another, life started to take on a bit of a different meaning for me. And a large part of that was no longer giving a shit about many things that now seemed of less consequence.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2023, 06:32:10 PM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?

It's not just you.  Trust me.

Well, Mrs.jingle and I are going thru a nice bout of depression each (largely external factors triggering it for each of us), but yeah …. We both have zero shits to give about the square root of fuck all.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 22, 2023, 06:44:50 PM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?

We have a whole subforum of P/R posts from you that show that you actually give a shit about quite a lot.

Maybe we just stop sweating the small stuff, and when we're winding down at work, inching closer to retirement, there's a certain sense at work of "it's not my problem". We spend most of our careers giving a shit, it's ok to pull that back a bit as you round third.




If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on February 22, 2023, 06:55:59 PM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?

We have a whole subforum of P/R posts from you that show that you actually give a shit about quite a lot.

Maybe we just stop sweating the small stuff, and when we're winding down at work, inching closer to retirement, there's a certain sense at work of "it's not my problem". We spend most of our careers giving a shit, it's ok to pull that back a bit as you round third.




If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

That's not real life!  LoL.  That's just like working on a crossword puzzle or knitting a toque!   :P

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2023, 04:07:10 AM
If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

Quoted for truth.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2023, 04:42:16 AM
If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

Quoted for truth.

Maybe we fogeys are the ones that had it backwards all along.  As the old saying goes (went??), youth is wasted on the young.  Maybe they're taking that to heart, and not wasting their time being young with the 'grind' culture of work.

Just musing ....
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 23, 2023, 05:29:00 AM
If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

Quoted for truth.

That's what I wanted to say too, but then I remembered, that when I was young, old folks would say the exact same thing about us, so maybe it's just a generational thing and the old just don't remember anymore how they were when they were young?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on February 23, 2023, 06:29:03 AM
If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

Quoted for truth.

That's what I wanted to say too, but then I remembered, that when I was young, old folks would say the exact same thing about us, so maybe it's just a generational thing and the old just don't remember anymore how they were when they were young?
Oh it definitely is. Every new generation has always been lazy, didn't want to work, and was going to be the downfall of society. Reality kicks in for the younger generation eventually. If you only want to do the work of a Peon I and refuse to go above and beyond to show your boss and company what you're capable of, you'll remain a Peon I for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 23, 2023, 09:12:11 AM
If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

Quoted for truth.

Maybe we fogeys are the ones that had it backwards all along.  As the old saying goes (went??), youth is wasted on the young.  Maybe they're taking that to heart, and not wasting their time being young with the 'grind' culture of work.

Just musing ....

This makes sense to me, actually.  I was able to do a lot of stuff in my teens and twenties that most people don't get to do, see things that most people don't get to see, and yeah some of them were pretty stupid/dangerous, but I'm glad I did them.  I think my life overall is richer for the experiences of my youth.

More on topic: I think that as we get older and have seen and done more, we realize that a lot of the things that seemed so important when we were younger just don't matter much in the big picture.  But we didn't realize it at the time, so it's not like we were wrong or stupid, just naive.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
Maybe it comes down to a personal thing, but even when I was 20, I believe I've always had the same work ethic back then that I do now.  I mean, I was happily at a stage at 21-22 working 7 days a week.  Didn't phase me.  These days, not many that age would even begin to fathom a heavy work week.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on February 23, 2023, 03:27:36 PM
I would say that there are far fewer things about which shits are given, and many things are different than they were 20-30+ years ago.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on February 23, 2023, 04:07:15 PM
Maybe it comes down to a personal thing, but even when I was 20, I believe I've always had the same work ethic back then that I do now.  I mean, I was happily at a stage at 21-22 working 7 days a week.  Didn't phase me.  These days, not many that age would even begin to fathom a heavy work week.

Yep, I think a good work ethic is something you have to develop early.  I cut grass for two summers when I was 17 and 18, and at the same time, I was bussing tables a few nights a week.  I remember one day when I got home from cutting grass all day, and when I got out of the shower after getting home, the restaurant called to see if I could work a last minute shift since someone had called in, and I was like, yep, I'm there!  It was just the way I was raised. You get out there and you bust your ass.

Not trying to pick on my nephew, but he is almost 18 and still has never gotten a job.  My brother (his dad) is aggravated that he seems to have no inkling to want to work, and all I can think is, he is loafing at the age where he should be developing his work ethic.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2023, 04:26:52 PM
I work with a lot of young men who need to rehab their work life. Jumping from job to job every 6 months to s year. Never gaining any skills to add to the resume. Always thinking they are worth more than what they are paid.

I always talk to them and tell them what other managers are looking for,  growth.  Taking on responsibilities.   Longevity.  Moving up the ladder.

Then, you know they deserve more money. Put in your time. Build your resume. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: XJDenton on February 23, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
My beard is now 30% grey. Am I allowed to post here now?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2023, 05:53:27 PM
I work with a lot of young men who need to rehab their work life. Jumping from job to job every 6 months to s year. Never gaining any skills to add to the resume. Always thinking they are worth more than what they are paid.

I always talk to them and tell them what other managers are looking for,  growth.  Taking on responsibilities.   Longevity.  Moving up the ladder.

Then, you know they deserve more money. Put in your time. Build your resume.

I work with these sorts of young ones too, it's astounding.  Some think they are so important that just turning up and gracing me with their presence is enough to get paid yet still think they are underpaid.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2023, 07:02:13 PM
I ask what they've made before. It's always around the sane rate of pay.  Then I ask, how long they were at the job. See the correlation?

I show them examples of other employees who stayed until a big opportunity came. Give them encouragement,  and tell them that if they want to learn more, opportunity awaits them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2023, 07:03:14 PM
My beard is now 30% grey. Am I allowed to post here now?

95% here. You are welcome. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2023, 07:21:44 PM
I ask what they've made before. It's always around the sane rate of pay.  Then I ask, how long they were at the job. See the correlation?

I show them examples of other employees who stayed until a big opportunity came. Give them encouragement,  and tell them that if they want to learn more, opportunity awaits them.

But they don't want to work for anything.  They want everything now and simply don't want to put in the long haul, from what I see anyway.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2023, 08:14:08 PM
They are here at the rate we pay for a reason. Some jobs are stepping stones. You can tread water showing you think you know more or you can take the next step and learn more, take on responsibilities and step up to a better paying job.

It's not my 1st rodeo with reclamation projects. 

You get what you put into it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 24, 2023, 06:15:27 AM
Anyone know if there is a correlation between getting older and giving less of a shit about things?

At first I thought it was just because I want/need to retire soon and so I stopped giving a shit about most things at work.

But now it is spilling into other areas of my life.  Is it just me?

It's definitely not you.   I don't know if it's "getting older" or a function of those other things that sort of happen as a coincidence of getting older, but it's definitely not you. 

I can't count the number of times I've looked around my house and seen things I've carried with me through divorces, moves and whatever, and thought to myself, "why the hell do I need that? I'm never going to use that ever again, and it means nothin to me."  It's actually a wierd feeling.   I've talked about it with my therapist.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 24, 2023, 06:20:46 AM
About six months ago, I did something I never, ever, thought I'd do. I stopped going to the barbershop/franchise haircutter, and have a monthly appointment with a family friend who is a hairstylist. My hair isn't difficult. I mean, it's your standard curly hair Italian thing. I keep it short. But to not have to wait for like 20 minutes to get it cut, or ask anyone to do it, it's like the best $40 a month I've ever spent. She charges 30, I give her 40, and I never have to wait, I'm in, I'm out, my hair looks good (at least as good as it can for us old fogeys), and I repeat...no waiting. Ever.

I was at this point six months ago where I told Mrs. Samsara that I was just going to have her start shaving my hair down to a 1 be done with it, just because I hated playing these games of being put on a list at Supercuts or GreatClips, or whatever run of the mill franchise is out there (or putting up with barbers who I just don't want to BS with). I went to like four different local places, on differing days of the week, and they were all like a 20 minute wait at minimum. I was done. Then my friend's soon-to-be daughter in law said she'd cut my hair, at the salon she rents a chair at, and I haven't looked back. Yeah, $40 a month for a short haircut is a little steep, but it's absolutely worth the saving of my time. Money well spent.

Bud, I bit the bullet on this, sort of, yesterday.  For the record, haircuts, dentists and doctors I have trouble finding someone I'm comfortable with, so I don't switch unless there is a really compelling reason.  I have been getting my hair done at a stylist, about 15 miles away, by a very talented woman, who is probably better served (financially and emotionally) by working on someone who needs her services.  You all have seen my haircut, it's nothing fancy.  Because of loyalty (longer story) I've stuck with her but it's a 25 minute drive, $41 for the service (plus tip) and another 25 minute drive back.  I had my standard appointment with her yesterday but had to cancel because of work.  Instead of rescheduling, I made an appointment for Monday at a local single-proprietor barber shop.  $19, out the door, and about six minutes away.  This is a big change for me (and not for nothing, I feel like I'm cheating on my stylist!)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 24, 2023, 06:28:25 AM
If anything, I feel like kids in their 20's are of the not giving a shit about work attitude. That's when you should give a shit about work, gain experience, climb "the ladder". They seem to have the order backwards.

Quoted for truth.

Maybe we fogeys are the ones that had it backwards all along.  As the old saying goes (went??), youth is wasted on the young.  Maybe they're taking that to heart, and not wasting their time being young with the 'grind' culture of work.

Just musing ....

This makes sense to me, actually.  I was able to do a lot of stuff in my teens and twenties that most people don't get to do, see things that most people don't get to see, and yeah some of them were pretty stupid/dangerous, but I'm glad I did them.  I think my life overall is richer for the experiences of my youth.

More on topic: I think that as we get older and have seen and done more, we realize that a lot of the things that seemed so important when we were younger just don't matter much in the big picture.  But we didn't realize it at the time, so it's not like we were wrong or stupid, just naive.

I think you know this, but "work ethic" and "giving a shit about things" are not the same thing. 

I don't give as much a shit as I did even two years ago, but when I DO care about something, my work ethic is as strong as it ever was (if not stronger in some ways).

I think the era for kids is different, no matter how old that makes me sound.   We - meaning my generation - were lazier than that which came before, but the requirements were still the same.   I STILL knew that I wasn't going to come out of school and be a Vice President, or I wasn't going to be an internet billionaire in six months.  I didn't walk to school, uphill both ways, in the snow, with no shoes on, like my mom and dad, but I also knew I had to DO something to be paid.  Get off my ass. Go outside.  My stepson at 15 still thinks that being a YouTube "creator" is a job description.  "Manny, do you want to do that for a living?"  "Yes!"  "Okay, we'll get you a GoPro for Christmas so you can start creating content."  "What?  I don't want to do that."    Are you serious?  You think it's going to fall from the tree? 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: XJDenton on February 24, 2023, 06:33:46 AM
It's definitely not you.   I don't know if it's "getting older" or a function of those other things that sort of happen as a coincidence of getting older, but it's definitely not you. 

I can't count the number of times I've looked around my house and seen things I've carried with me through divorces, moves and whatever, and thought to myself, "why the hell do I need that? I'm never going to use that ever again, and it means nothin to me."  It's actually a wierd feeling.   I've talked about it with my therapist.

Honestly speaking, as I've got older I've just had to become more selective and efficient as to what I spend my energy and time on, because I just don't have the reserves that I did when I was 15-20. That includes caring about things. Emotional labour still takes energy out of you. The difficult part is not burning out so much that you stop caring about the big stuff.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2023, 06:36:19 AM
On the matter of the previous generation.... Follow the science as Stads would remind us  :biggrin:
 Kids these days: Why the youth of today seem lacking (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aav5916)

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what is particularly notable is the degree to which people’s belief that children are in decline was larger for people who excelled on the trait in question. This latter finding suggests the involvement of a person-specific self-comparison process whereby individuals compare themselves to today’s youth and find them especially lacking on those domains on which they themselves excel. This account, however, leaves open the question of why people fail to similarly denigrate the youth of the past. One possibility is biased memory; people routinely project their current selves onto their past selves (7)—such a memory bias may generalize to children of one’s own generation.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 24, 2023, 07:01:24 AM
I think you know this, but "work ethic" and "giving a shit about things" are not the same thing. 
This is definitely true.

My oldest is currently attending NC State University here in Raleigh.  She basically doesn't give a shit about almost anything.  However, she dislikes "living off the teat", so to speak, so she got herself a job working third shift at a blood bank.  8pm-8am Friday and Saturday night, 8pm-2 am Sunday night.  Working her ass off ON THE WEEKEND.  Admirable, but I wouldn't do it lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 24, 2023, 08:03:31 AM
On the matter of the previous generation.... Follow the science as Stads would remind us  :biggrin:
 Kids these days: Why the youth of today seem lacking (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aav5916)

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what is particularly notable is the degree to which people’s belief that children are in decline was larger for people who excelled on the trait in question. This latter finding suggests the involvement of a person-specific self-comparison process whereby individuals compare themselves to today’s youth and find them especially lacking on those domains on which they themselves excel. This account, however, leaves open the question of why people fail to similarly denigrate the youth of the past. One possibility is biased memory; people routinely project their current selves onto their past selves (7)—such a memory bias may generalize to children of one’s own generation.

I'm not sure that jives with me though; maybe I'm selling myself short here, but if I was to guess, my golden ticket, if I have one, is my intellect and my memory.  That's not uncommon these days.  But I think as our society gets "easier" - I don't mean in terms of success, I mean in terms of day to day; I don't have to get out of my chair anymore to turn the lights on, turn on my pellet stove, or adjust the TV - we're losing some of the essence of what got us here.  I think "entitlement" is the right word.  I don't recall growing up with any expectations.  Hopes, dreams, goals, yes, but expectations?  Entitlements?  Nope.

We had a freak October snow storm about ten years ago, up here in Connecticut.  Power was out for some people for upwards of 10 or 12 days.  "Survival" even then wasn't about keeping hearts beating, it was about "replacing what we had". Generators.  Companies (you know, those EVIL corporations!) opening their fitness centers so people could shower and charge their phones.   That's not survival. 

I get it; I know we want to be better than we were yesterday, and we should.  No question.  But we can't lose perspective doing it.  But I can't help seeing a lot of what gets complained about and what passes for "adversity" today and thinking "man, if the worst thing that ever happens to you is you get called "homo", or your disrespected because of your hair - hair YOU chose to wear - or you're called "fat" because, well, you are, in the grand cosmos of adversity, you're on the plus side. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on February 24, 2023, 05:04:07 PM
I've noticed since I turned 40 that I can no longer tolerate fake scents, particularly strong ones. Most men's products have generic artificial scents like "cool rush" or some other stupid nonsense name. Deodorant, shampoo, etc all seem to have the same two or three options. I don't even know what they're supposed to smell like. It just all smells fake and nasty to me. I'm trying to move to more natural scents, but that stuff is annoyingly expensive.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on February 24, 2023, 09:12:29 PM
I was big in to colognes when I was in my 20s. I went to dance clubs all the time and would sweat like a pig, and felt like cologne would help mask my musky order. I also just enjoyed smelling nice; I had low self-esteem with women and thought that if I wasn't attractive, fit, or wealthy, at least I could try and smell alluring.

Now I just settle for the least offensive deodorant, but will put a dash of cheap cologne on if I am going out with my wife.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on February 25, 2023, 07:50:35 AM
I'm the opposite. I wear cologne every day, well eau de toilette technically. My daily scent is always something very light and maybe a little citrusy like Dolce & Gabbana Light Blue. Just a spritz into the air, and walk under it...half an hour later no one can tell your wearing it unless they get very close. I have a collection of other, going out at night colognes as well, that are meant to pair with the clothing or event.

I won't bother you with further details, but I will say that not once have I ever regretted taking this extra step in my hygiene. I've had all manner of women comment favorably and even snuggle up to me, to my wife's eternal amusement.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 25, 2023, 11:52:58 AM
Couple of swipes of deoderant under each pit, and I'm good to go.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 25, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
Couple of swipes of deoderant under each pit, and I'm good to go.

Same....nothing fancy here.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 26, 2023, 09:54:29 AM
Hey, I'm a 'Cool Rush' guy. That's the scent of Degree Antiperspirant I wear, the 72 hour kind. I'm old and stinky. Has to be antiperspirant, deodorant alone does not get the job done.

I will admit I have no idea where they come up with the names. I pop the tops off in the store and take a big whiff. If I like it, I buy it.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 26, 2023, 12:46:38 PM
Couple of swipes of deoderant under each pit, and I'm good to go.

Same....nothing fancy here.

Me too.  I haven't worn a specific "cologne" in decades.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2023, 02:28:50 PM
I use a cologne from time to time but I never go out and buy them myself.  If I get one as a gift, sweet, I'll give it a spray from time to time but daily it's an anti perspirant spray and that's it.  I'm not a roll on guy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: El Barto on February 26, 2023, 06:05:34 PM
If I want to smell like anything other than me I'll use one of the many beard shampoos I get as gifts. Some of those smell nice, and with my beard it's more than enough. By and large I buy unscented everything, though.

And the flavour thing has bugged me for years. Colours are not flavors. Adding random adjectives to them doesn't change that. I have no idea what Fierce Blue Mist tastes like, and by the gods I hope I never find out. Zero Glacier Freeze? Rainbow Unicorn? Purple Haze? Here's one thing I do know. The folks that run Pepsi-Co aren't idiots. They don't squander money and ideas on things that won't make them money, so there has to be a benefit to giving drink flavors silly, meaningless names. People are stupid.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on February 26, 2023, 07:24:06 PM
And the flavour thing has bugged me for years. Colours are not flavors. Adding random adjectives to them doesn't change that. I have no idea what Fierce Blue Mist tastes like, and by the gods I hope I never find out. Zero Glacier Freeze? Rainbow Unicorn? Purple Haze? Here's one thing I do know. The folks that run Pepsi-Co aren't idiots. They don't squander money and ideas on things that won't make them money, so there has to be a benefit to giving drink flavors silly, meaningless names. People are stupid.

YES! Hey, I am thirsty for some Gatorade... let me see what my options are.... where's Fruit Punch, or Orange? What the hell is Arctic Thunder?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2023, 07:27:06 PM
Pretty sure that's the movie where Ben Stiller and his pals dress up like eskimos.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 27, 2023, 05:58:05 AM
And the movie is just as bad as the flavor. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on February 27, 2023, 06:16:36 AM
I'm the opposite. I wear cologne every day, well eau de toilette technically. My daily scent is always something very light and maybe a little citrusy like Dolce & Gabbana Light Blue. Just a spritz into the air, and walk under it...half an hour later no one can tell your wearing it unless they get very close. I have a collection of other, going out at night colognes as well, that are meant to pair with the clothing or event.

I won't bother you with further details, but I will say that not once have I ever regretted taking this extra step in my hygiene. I've had all manner of women comment favorably and even snuggle up to me, to my wife's eternal amusement.
I'm not talking about cologne (unless you consider Axe body spray cologne). Most good cologne are natural scents derived from actual plants or whatever their source is. My beef is more with synthetic scents. They mostly smell terrible, are super generic, and they're everywhere. Men's body products in particular are really bad at the generic synthetic scents. But laundry detergent, air fresheners, etc are full of them too. Synthetic scents are known to be terrible for you and I personally think they generally smell horrible too. I've gotten way more sensitive to them as I've gotten older.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 27, 2023, 07:09:33 AM
I don't remember the last time I wore an actual cologne.

My wife is very sensitive to scents.  We can never go near, for example, a perfume counter in a department store, or near a Bath & Body Works.  So I wear nothing more than Nivea aftershave (very faint scent), and she picked out my beard products.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on February 27, 2023, 07:20:52 AM
Hey, I'm a 'Cool Rush' guy.

I would expect nothing less from Professor Peart.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on February 27, 2023, 08:14:49 AM
I don't remember the last time I wore an actual cologne.

My wife is very sensitive to scents.  We can never go near, for example, a perfume counter in a department store, or near a Bath & Body Works.  So I wear nothing more than Nivea aftershave (very faint scent), and she picked out my beard products.
Same for my wife. Which is funny because when we first got married she was big into scented fabric softener and candles and stuff. Now she can't stand anything. Maybe it's just rubbed off on me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lonestar on February 27, 2023, 09:01:23 AM
I don't remember the last time I wore an actual cologne.

My wife is very sensitive to scents.  We can never go near, for example, a perfume counter in a department store, or near a Bath & Body Works.  So I wear nothing more than Nivea aftershave (very faint scent), and she picked out my beard products.
Same for my wife. Which is funny because when we first got married she was big into scented fabric softener and candles and stuff. Now she can't stand anything. Maybe it's just rubbed off on me.

I'm that way as well, people with heavy perfumes will actually trigger a hay fever like reaction in me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2023, 09:06:39 AM
My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 27, 2023, 10:19:31 AM
My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her.

That must be hell lately.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2023, 10:24:58 AM
My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her.

Is that an actual thing?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: faizoff on February 27, 2023, 10:31:08 AM
My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her.

Is that an actual thing?

Yes (https://www.drugs.com/cg/rhinosinusitis.html)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2023, 10:42:54 AM
My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her.

Is that an actual thing?

You think I'd make up a word I can't spell?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2023, 10:46:43 AM
My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her.

Is that an actual thing?

Yes (https://www.drugs.com/cg/rhinosinusitis.html)


Wow that actually sounds scary.





My wife has rhinosinusitis, so any strong fragrance destroys her.

Is that an actual thing?

You think I'd make up a word I can't spell?

Well you sent music to me in my roulette that you obviously didn’t listen to.  :P
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2023, 10:52:09 AM
I think my example is more plausible than yours Mr. Page 39 Africa boobs.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
I think my example is more plausible than yours Mr. Page 39 Africa boobs.

 :rollin

I’m right though… about the boobs.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2023, 10:54:36 AM
I'm going to call you that moving forward. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2023, 10:56:17 AM
I’ve been called worse. Lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 27, 2023, 11:57:56 AM
Exciting days in the Hefner household.  We got a new mattress/box springs delivered this weekend.

So I've got that going for me.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 27, 2023, 12:16:15 PM
Hey, I'm a 'Cool Rush' guy.

I would expect nothing less from Professor Peart.

 :rollin

Well played, sir, well played.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on February 27, 2023, 12:27:30 PM
I'm going to call you that moving forward. Lol

It just rolls off the tongue.

Side bar, I remember - I'm guessing it was about fifth grade - a classmate did a collage of boobs from Nat Geo.  At the time it made him akin to a Viking in terms of boldness.  In hindsight, it's a head scratcher, frankly.  :).  I did one on sharks. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on April 21, 2023, 12:29:04 PM
Anyone ever scroll through social media and see an entertainment news-type story and ask yourself, "Who the fuck ARE these people?"

It is happening more and more for me.  Today's contestants were Drake Bell and Janet Von Schmeling.  IDFK  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2023, 12:51:10 PM
Anyone ever scroll through social media

Nope.  ;D


... and see an entertainment news-type story and ask yourself, "Who the fuck ARE these people?"

It is happening more and more for me.  Today's contestants were Drake Bell and Janet Von Schmeling.  IDFK  :lol

Since my homepage when I open my laptop is MSN, I can definitely relate. But I do know who Drake Bell is from my kids watching Drake & Josh on Nickelodeon.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on April 21, 2023, 12:52:54 PM
Anyone ever scroll through social media

Nope.  ;D


... and see an entertainment news-type story and ask yourself, "Who the fuck ARE these people?"

It is happening more and more for me.  Today's contestants were Drake Bell and Janet Von Schmeling.  IDFK  :lol

Since my homepage when I open my laptop is MSN, I can definitely relate. But I do know who Drake Bell is from my kids watching Drake & Josh on Nickelodeon.

Wow, Tim knows someone obscure  :lol

And yes, my social media is filled talking about news of people I have no idea of. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on April 21, 2023, 01:20:59 PM
Anyone ever scroll through social media and see an entertainment news-type story and ask yourself, "Who the fuck ARE these people?"

It is happening more and more for me.  Today's contestants were Drake Bell and Janet Von Schmeling.  IDFK  :lol

Constantly.

Janet von Schmeling sounds like she might be hot...googles...looks really young, and everything appears to relate to the Drake guy.  Not a clue.


On a (possibly) related note, I've been seeing a bunch of commercials lately for something called "Darcy and Stacy," which seems to be a "reality" show about two...IDK...let's say 50ish women who've had ALL the plastic surgery and are trying to land good looking young men as spouses/significant others.  I thought back to when I was a (semi-) good looking young man and thought, "EWW!!!"  Also, people actually watch shit like this (enough to justify whatever production costs there are)?  WHY?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on April 21, 2023, 01:47:37 PM
Never heard of Darcy and Stacy.  A quick Google search reveals twins from CT who got 'famous' on another reality tv show so a spin off.  Apparently they live together with their kids and divorced their spouses on the same day.

Sounds like a weird twin thing to me.  Looking at their photos they appear to be Kardashian wannabe types.  Not my bag but judging from the popularity of shows like the Kardashians and The Real Wives franchise shows, I can see why some might be.

FTR, I have never watched one episode of the Kardashians or The Real Wives series and I am damn proud of that fact.   :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on April 21, 2023, 07:24:35 PM
Anyone ever scroll through social media

Nope.  ;D

 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on April 25, 2023, 03:06:20 PM
I'm getting too old for my own good or anyone else's. :|
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 25, 2023, 03:12:10 PM
Anyone ever scroll through social media

Nope.


Under redundant it says, "See redundant."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on April 25, 2023, 03:57:31 PM
FTR, I have never watched one episode of the Kardashians or The Real Wives series and I am damn proud of that fact.   :lol

I have a VAGUE recollection of someone goading me into watching an episode (or part of it) of the Real Housewives of Orange County back in '05 or '06.  Other than that, you and me both.  However, I did once almost take a deposition of a "real housewife of New York," Ramona Singer.  This was probably in 2006, and RHoNY wouldn't premier for another couple years, so I had no idea who she was.  I represented a retailer who got sued for selling counterfeit goods that had been provided by several suppliers.  Singer was a supplier who supplied genuine goods with the plaintiff's marks.  The plaintiff noticed her deposition, and I flew to NY.  Singer showed up, without counsel, and was completely frazzled.  She freaked out a couple times because the events in question took place around the time her mother had died.  After maybe an hour, she said, "I can't do this anymore," and got up and walked out.  The plaintiff's lawyer and I just looked at each other and shrugged and were done for the day.  The plaintiff's lawyer never sought to compel her to come back.  I didn't realize until many years after RHoNY has premiered that this woman had become a "real housewife."
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: HOF on May 12, 2023, 01:17:44 PM
Been dealing with a flare up of low back pain (didn’t do anything, just came on at the end of a long day working at my desk). It responds best to heat, and then I realized if I run my car seat warmer it’s basically like a heat pad whenever I’m in the car. Doing this old thing right.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 12, 2023, 01:31:23 PM
Yeah, car seat warmers are great.  If I'm not imagining things, mine is the seat plus a little ways up the back, maybe 4-6 inches.  It's awesome.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: HOF on May 12, 2023, 02:18:37 PM
Yeah, car seat warmers are great.  If I'm not imagining things, mine is the seat plus a little ways up the back, maybe 4-6 inches.  It's awesome.

Mine goes up to about my mid-back, so it’s perfect for lumbar pain. Rarely ever used it and then only during winter when I’d have a coat or layers of clothing on and wouldn’t be able to really feel it, so it never occurred to me to use for back pain until just now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 12, 2023, 03:32:10 PM
Yeah, car seat warmers are great.  If I'm not imagining things, mine is the seat plus a little ways up the back, maybe 4-6 inches.  It's awesome.

Mine goes up to about my mid-back, so it’s perfect for lumbar pain. Rarely ever used it and then only during winter when I’d have a coat or layers of clothing on and wouldn’t be able to really feel it, so it never occurred to me to use for back pain until just now.

Mid-back sounds about right.  For some reason, I always assumed that the seat warmers only warmed the actual seat, not any part of the back.  I mean, they're separate pieces of equipment.  But I noticed at some point that it felt like my lower back was also getting warm.  But like I said, I didn't know if I was imagining it or maybe the heat radiated up the seat back or something.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on May 18, 2023, 12:44:58 PM
Personal hygiene as physical therapy


Shaving, I raise my chin and turn my head and somewhere in my neck I feel a "crunch" but it's a good crunch.  Sometime later in the routine, I turn the other way, or twist some other way, and something else goes "crunch" and I'm thinking this is great, who needs a chiropractor?  One time in the shower I was reaching around and had to turn and twist my 60-something-year-old self and something in my back went "pop" but it was a good pop.  And it occurred to me that that's all Tai Chi is.  In movies, it just looks like they're moving in slow motion, move the arms, move the legs, but what they're really doing is moving the body around, keeping things limber, keeping things loose and moving, and yeah it feels fucking great because the older you get, the less you move, so something as simple as moving around and getting your blood flowing feels good.

Anyway, I just thought of that.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on May 18, 2023, 07:06:05 PM
I've joined a couple discord servers and I have no idea what these kids are saying. I'm only 38!!!!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2023, 09:17:34 AM
I've joined a couple discord servers and I have no idea what these kids are saying. I'm only 38!!!!!!
Discord is not for people like us.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2023, 09:22:30 AM
 Couldn’t begin to tell you what a discord is.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 19, 2023, 09:23:46 AM
My Godson is on it all the time. It's like Reddit from what I gather. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2023, 09:24:26 AM
Er… what’s a Reddit?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Lonk on May 19, 2023, 09:32:31 AM
Couldn’t begin to tell you what a discord is.
Think of it as DTF, but instead of having different sections you have servers (which you'd need to join) and within each server there are sub-sections.

I joined Discord because of Coheed and Cambria, but I don't use it. I joined a few servers and ended up leaving all of them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 19, 2023, 09:38:01 AM
Er… what’s a Reddit?

It's a website, but that's not important right now. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2023, 10:00:55 AM
Er… what’s a Reddit?
These kinds of questions could lead to you getting a reputation of some kind.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Evermind on May 19, 2023, 11:30:24 AM
My Godson is on it all the time. It's like Reddit from what I gather.

I wouldn't say it's like Reddit at all. :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on May 19, 2023, 12:17:33 PM
Reddit I can handle. Thats like individual threads like this message board. Discord is just chats... chats on chats on chats and its like the kids speak another language lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2023, 12:32:49 PM
Couldn’t begin to tell you what a discord is.
Think of it as DTF, but instead of having different sections you have servers (which you'd need to join) and within each server there are sub-sections.

I joined Discord because of Coheed and Cambria, but I don't use it. I joined a few servers and ended up leaving all of them.

Is there somewhere else to connect with C&C fans? Does the band have its own forum?


And not directed at you, V, but..how many feeds to we need? I literally only come to DTF to talk music and stuff. I don't have a facebook, an instagram, a tik tok, a discord or a reddit. How much do we really need?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 19, 2023, 12:44:44 PM
"Need" is a big word.  But there are lots of outlets for lots of expression or discussion.  Some places are better for some things than other places.

You may think you only "need" DTF because you've never examined much else.  The possibilities for expression or discussion only reveal themselves once you try.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2023, 12:52:29 PM
Yeah, I get that, but then I still go back to..."need". How much discussion do I need?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on May 19, 2023, 12:56:26 PM
There's a couple awesome C&C Facebook groups that I'm in. Most of the people are great and definitely more my age range lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Lonk on May 19, 2023, 01:36:40 PM
Couldn’t begin to tell you what a discord is.
Think of it as DTF, but instead of having different sections you have servers (which you'd need to join) and within each server there are sub-sections.

I joined Discord because of Coheed and Cambria, but I don't use it. I joined a few servers and ended up leaving all of them.

Is there somewhere else to connect with C&C fans? Does the band have its own forum?


And not directed at you, V, but..how many feeds to we need? I literally only come to DTF to talk music and stuff. I don't have a facebook, an instagram, a tik tok, a discord or a reddit. How much do we really need?
Honestly, Discord is not so bad, I'm just not very big on Social Media since I don't have any accounts (does DTF counts?). Discord is useful to connect with different groups. If you have a hobby/interest and no one at DTF shares the same interest, you can most likely find a discord server for it to connect with other people.

It's also important to note that discord started was a place for gamers to chat and talk about games. Then it expanded into what it is now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on May 19, 2023, 01:55:31 PM
Yeah, I get that, but then I still go back to..."need". How much discussion do I need?

Well, that's a personal question.  Everyone has different levels and amounts of discussions they want/need to have. 

I like Discord a lot, but I don't really use it for the big channels because those channels can just be too much.  Like I'm in a very popular prog metal discord and I've had my moments of chatting there, but it's just so active that if you aren't following along all the time, there's kind of no point in following along at all since it's not too personal.  Like DTF is fairly personal because it's a small group of the same people here so we mostly all "know" each other.  I'm in a bunch of smaller discords that are more like that. 

Also, I mainly just use discord for voice chat with gamer friends.  It's just a good app for live voice chat that doesn't rely on the games in game chat which can be hit or miss depending on the game.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ReaperKK on May 20, 2023, 07:53:28 AM
Reddit I can handle. Thats like individual threads like this message board. Discord is just chats... chats on chats on chats and its like the kids speak another language lol

My brother and I have a discord server that we hang out in and it's great. It's a lot like IRC was back in the 90's. You have your voice channels, text channels, and then you can also start threads there if you want.

I often thought about starting a DTF discord but the participation would be zero :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: cramx3 on May 20, 2023, 09:20:37 AM
Reddit I can handle. Thats like individual threads like this message board. Discord is just chats... chats on chats on chats and its like the kids speak another language lol

My brother and I have a discord server that we hang out in and it's great. It's a lot like IRC was back in the 90's. You have your voice channels, text channels, and then you can also start threads there if you want.

I often thought about starting a DTF discord but the participation would be zero :lol

There is a DT discord with 100 or so people in it (including myself) but I can't remember the last time I interacted in there.  I think it's ran by the whoever runs the DT reddit.  Even Blob has his own discord and he left us
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 30, 2023, 07:46:16 PM
I just turned 37, I am getting old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2023, 07:51:32 PM
Yeah, I get that, but then I still go back to..."need". How much discussion do I need?

This is kind of something toying with me for a while now.  As I get older, I feel the need to discussion and interaction less and less.  I'm only fucking 39 for fucks sake.

Everyone's needs are obviously different but as time goes on I just don't have the time or energy for as many discussions and interactions like I used to.  A bit of burnout probably also has something to do with it.

I chat here and an online fantasy football forum which is in full swing at the moment, plus a private whatsapp group from there.  Those three things at times is more than I can handle.  Being more involved in the footy stuff currently takes time away from here and vice versa. 

Fuck I'm getting old.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 30, 2023, 07:57:30 PM
I feel like that too.  I think it's the manager's position that makes me not want to converse that much. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 30, 2023, 08:01:29 PM
I feel like that too.  I think it's the manager's position that makes me not want to converse that much.

I'm really relieved that I don't have any supervisory duties anymore.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2023, 08:10:33 PM
I feel like that too.  I think it's the manager's position that makes me not want to converse that much.

Hit the fucking nail on the head my friend.


I feel like that too.  I think it's the manager's position that makes me not want to converse that much.

I'm really relieved that I don't have any supervisory duties anymore.

Yeah mate, you definitely should be.  NEVER go back into that field ever again.....you hear me?......NEVER!!!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2023, 08:23:29 PM
I haven't managed people since 2013.  Fuck that shit got old, and fast.  Solving other peoples' shit for them.  I had a few good employees that took care of their business and just kept me informed, but too many others that simply didn't want to make a fucking decision or stick their neck out, and just laid their shit on me.

So very pleased to be an individual contributor.  Management sucks.  It was good for the 7 years I did it, but I was glad I never went back to it after I got out.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2023, 08:40:44 PM
I haven't managed people since 2013.  Fuck that shit got old, and fast.  Solving other peoples' shit for them.  I had a few good employees that took care of their business and just kept me informed, but too many others that simply didn't want to make a fucking decision or stick their neck out, and just laid their shit on me.

So very pleased to be an individual contributor.  Management sucks.  It was good for the 7 years I did it, but I was glad I never went back to it after I got out.

Fast forward all of that 10 years and it seems from my experience being in it for 15 plus years it's harder again.  People expect you to wipe their fucking ass for them and accept no responsibility and blame someone else for their problems.  Happens in management too trust me but the employees these days have so much more power.  My situation, they are on a better wicket than I am with less stress and responsibility.  I know I'm different as I'm working with all casuals which means they can give less of a fuck and do more of what they want.  Peoples personal problems these days are so minimal yet people use it more and more as a crutch, it's infuriating.  being casual though it's just easier for me to fuck them off however.  I still have a few good ones, but the severe change in management above me makes my middle management role even harder again.  Add on top of that management expecting you to do their work for them cause they are clueless yet not pay you any extra. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 31, 2023, 09:46:27 AM
I haven't managed people since 2013.  Fuck that shit got old, and fast.  Solving other peoples' shit for them.  I had a few good employees that took care of their business and just kept me informed, but too many others that simply didn't want to make a fucking decision or stick their neck out, and just laid their shit on me.

So very pleased to be an individual contributor. Management sucks.  It was good for the 7 years I did it, but I was glad I never went back to it after I got out.

Agreed. The job I took after I was furloughed in 2020 was a PM running an installation crew. I had (14) direct reports. It was my first experience in that type of role and I hated it. I'm so happy to be back just going about my business and contributing to the team rather than being tasked to run it. I am just more comfortable in this type of role and I'm good with it. Don't know that I'll ever pursue a role again where I have direct reports.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on May 31, 2023, 10:05:05 AM
I've never wanted to be in any sort of leadership role. I'm also very anti-social and will literally run away from people I know when I see them in public just so I don't have to talk to them and those are people I genuinely like.

My wife struggles to understand my desire to just be comfortable at home. When I have to go out I'll have several things I want to do but never actually do them because I get worn down quickly and just want to go home. As I have mentioned before, I'm pretty sure I have autism based on everything we went through with my son. Explains a lot of my weird issues.

I talk to you guys more than I talk to anyone else and even then, I'm not a super poster like most of you.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 31, 2023, 11:14:09 AM
I'm on bereavement leave and I still have to respond and help because my backup doesn't know all the answers like I do. It sucks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: lordxizor on May 31, 2023, 11:20:31 AM
I'm on bereavement leave and I still have to respond and help because my backup doesn't know all the answers like I do. It sucks.
No, you don't have to respond. If it's too much for you right now, just leave them hanging. They'll survive.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 31, 2023, 11:29:38 AM
No. New hire and our system was down. I just answered a few questions.   I'm good. Keeps the mind occupied.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Evermind on May 31, 2023, 11:51:18 AM
I'm on bereavement leave and I still have to respond and help because my backup doesn't know all the answers like I do. It sucks.
No, you don't have to respond. If it's too much for you right now, just leave them hanging. They'll survive.

Agreed. Joe, you know what's best for you, but you still don't have to. Just decided to share my experience last month.

I took one day from my PTO in April to go to my grandfather's funeral, told people at work too, we're standing there saying our goodbyes before they put the coffin into the I don't know, the elevator that goes to the furnace, and one of the younger guys at our work group texts me saying it's urgent. I looked at it and didn't answer, the question was trivial and he could've asked people at the office. He deleted his message two hours later as apparently he found someone who could help him at the office.

Everyone's different obviously, but I'm not answering anything work-related either at the funeral or actually for the whole day. I don't mind responding or taking calls while I'm on vacation as long as people don't abuse that, but I have to draw a line somewhere.

That being said, if you're good, that's good. Also sorry for intruding into the fogeys thread.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on May 31, 2023, 12:10:53 PM
I didn't take any bereavement; I needed the distraction, the focus.  But when we had our ceremony last week, I called my boss and said "I need you."   Well, not exactly, because that's creepy, but I said I'm turning my phone off at 10:30 that day and I'm not even turning it back on again until the following morning.  She was 1000% understanding, and took the slack for me.   It helps that, like Joe, she knows that under other circumstances, I'm answering the phone basically any time of day.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on May 31, 2023, 02:27:45 PM
I actually had a scheduled day off the day after my father died. But I continued to work. I ended up using my bereavement days to move my mother into her new place a few weeks later. We didn't have any type of service so there was no reason for me to miss work.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: chknptpie on May 31, 2023, 02:32:24 PM
I feel like I needed berevement more for when I had to put my cats down than for any human. I had to go cry in the bathroom like twice. Wish that was covered. Maybe the next time that happens, I'll just say it was a grandparent. Think anyone will care? lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on May 31, 2023, 05:34:05 PM
That sucks that you are having to work a little right now, Joe.

When my mom passed away 15 months ago on a Wednesday, I was back to work the following Monday and the distraction was needed (the funeral was the following week). There is no possible way I could have concentrated at work the Thursday and Friday after the day she passed. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 31, 2023, 05:39:13 PM
I only had to respond to a few questions. I was left alone in the afternoon except the background came for a new hire and the new monthly safety meeting. Both I forwarded to my backup.

Tomorrow,  Lisa and I will go for a nice drive to clear our heads. Together.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: KevShmev on May 31, 2023, 07:10:11 PM
Good decision.  I hope it helps, or at least alleviates a little of the hurt.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on June 01, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
I only had to respond to a few questions. I was left alone in the afternoon except the background came for a new hire and the new monthly safety meeting. Both I forwarded to my backup.

Tomorrow,  Lisa and I will go for a nice drive to clear our heads. Together.

That's beautiful. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on June 29, 2023, 09:27:06 AM
Old fogey moment.  I clench my jaw when I sleep, it's usually stress-related.  I wear a mouthgard to protect against grinding my teeth as a result.  I woke up last night and felt that my jaw was clenched pretty hard.

So I'm yawning this morning after getting up early to work and felt a huge POP in my jaw.  Shooting pain goes from the joint in the jaw, through the muscles and into my tongue.  Sore jaw, hurts to talk or swallow.  Messaged my doctor and he says it's probably TMJ, which is just a fancy name for jaw popping and its associated pain.

So I get to ice/heat my jaw, pop a bunch of advils and treat it with icy hot.  How the hell does one injure themselves by yawning?  Guess I need to work on some stress relief strategies as well.   :censored
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 29, 2023, 11:48:50 AM
Old fogey moment.  I clench my jaw when I sleep, it's usually stress-related.  I wear a mouthgard to protect against grinding my teeth as a result.  I woke up last night and felt that my jaw was clenched pretty hard.

So I'm yawning this morning after getting up early to work and felt a huge POP in my jaw.  Shooting pain goes from the joint in the jaw, through the muscles and into my tongue.  Sore jaw, hurts to talk or swallow.  Messaged my doctor and he says it's probably TMJ, which is just a fancy name for jaw popping and its associated pain.

So I get to ice/heat my jaw, pop a bunch of advils and treat it with icy hot.  How the hell does one injure themselves by yawning?  Guess I need to work on some stress relief strategies as well.   :censored
Yeah, that's some serious old man shit right there.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 29, 2023, 12:10:27 PM
You realize you're old when you can't explain how you got hurt. You just know your hurt.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 29, 2023, 01:08:09 PM
Seems like a topic for a future Scenes From a Hat...  "How did you hurt yourself?"
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Chino on June 29, 2023, 01:12:18 PM
Looking for a bit of financial advice.

Victoria started a new job this week that pays $32K per year more than her previous one. Her last job really didn't want her to leave, so she's staying on part time. She'll be giving them 20 hours a week at $50 an hour. Long story short, between her significant bump and my modest increase this year, we'll be making $90K ish more this year than last.   

We're almost 9 years into our current house and have $110K left on the note (bought for $144K and currently Zestimated at $274K). I've got about $20K on a HELOC and she's got student loans. The wedding is in October and conversations about the future are well underway. We're always looking at new houses (or lots to build on) where we intend to raise the family and spend a good two decades or more.

My question is how to approach our debt while pursuing a new place to live. I've always been one to focus on paying down debt before most other things (there are exceptions), but it's really hard to save when you're throwing as much as you can at debt. Where should our focus be? I'm thankful for the equity we've gotten out of our house in such a short period of time, but I'd still like to have more of a down payment than that going into the next place. Is it an incredibly stupid move to back off what we're throwing at our debts in an effort to secure the type of property and house we want to live in? My debt is a bit high, but I've got a credit score of 805, so I'm not really worried in that regard.   
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 29, 2023, 01:16:20 PM
It was a long time ago, but I actually remember getting up in the morning and just starting my day.  If I'd done something really strenuous the day before, like help someone move some furniture or something, I might feel a bit sore, but that's to be expected.  Stretch a little more, get moving.

Somewhere along the way, I noticed I'd get up in the morning, and I'm moving slower, and there's random soreness or at least tiredness in my legs or arms (or both), and I didn't help anyone move yesterday, I didn't foolishly try to play volleyball for the first time in years or anything like that, I just feel kinda tired and sore.  I then I realize that it's been that way for a while.  At some point, I became old.  I'm not tired and sore from doing stuff, I'm just tired and sore all the time anyway, because my body is now old and tired.  What the fuck happened to me?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on June 29, 2023, 01:19:45 PM
Grandchildren help. Seriously, chase a two-year-old around playing hide-and-seek/peek-a-boo for a few hours, take a nap with her after snack time and you'll feel much younger.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on June 29, 2023, 01:23:11 PM
It was a long time ago, but I actually remember getting up in the morning and just starting my day.  If I'd done something really strenuous the day before, like help someone move some furniture or something, I might feel a bit sore, but that's to be expected.  Stretch a little more, get moving.

Somewhere along the way, I noticed I'd get up in the morning, and I'm moving slower, and there's random soreness or at least tiredness in my legs or arms (or both), and I didn't help anyone move yesterday, I didn't foolishly try to play volleyball for the first time in years or anything like that, I just feel kinda tired and sore.  I then I realize that it's been that way for a while.  At some point, I became old.  I'm not tired and sore from doing stuff, I'm just tired and sore all the time anyway, because my body is now old and tired.  What the fuck happened to me?

Most of my issues are stress-related, or lack of movement related.  I'm still in good shape, I just have a job that requires me to put in a lot of time in a desk chair.  I need to be better at stretching on a daily basis.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on June 29, 2023, 01:37:47 PM
Stretching helps, as does getting up and moving.  Fortunately (relatively speaking) I'm on a med that makes me pee all the time, so I'm up once an hour or so anyway.  Before I go back to my desk, I try to take a moment to stretch and flex.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:03 PM
Looking for a bit of financial advice.

Victoria started a new job this week that pays $32K per year more than her previous one. Her last job really didn't want her to leave, so she's staying on part time. She'll be giving them 20 hours a week at $50 an hour. Long story short, between her significant bump and my modest increase this year, we'll be making $90K ish more this year than last.   

We're almost 9 years into our current house and have $110K left on the note (bought for $144K and currently Zestimated at $274K). I've got about $20K on a HELOC and she's got student loans. The wedding is in October and conversations about the future are well underway. We're always looking at new houses (or lots to build on) where we intend to raise the family and spend a good two decades or more.

My question is how to approach our debt while pursuing a new place to live. I've always been one to focus on paying down debt before most other things (there are exceptions), but it's really hard to save when you're throwing as much as you can at debt. Where should our focus be? I'm thankful for the equity we've gotten out of our house in such a short period of time, but I'd still like to have more of a down payment than that going into the next place. Is it an incredibly stupid move to back off what we're throwing at our debts in an effort to secure the type of property and house we want to live in? My debt is a bit high, but I've got a credit score of 805, so I'm not really worried in that regard.
You guys are young, so the answer for you might be different than the answer might be for me.

I would hesitate to give any advice, other than maybe talk to a CFP (Certified Financial Planner).  Also talk to your accountant to make sure your new income doesn't fuck you at tax time.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on June 29, 2023, 03:22:01 PM
Looking for a bit of financial advice.

Victoria started a new job this week that pays $32K per year more than her previous one. Her last job really didn't want her to leave, so she's staying on part time. She'll be giving them 20 hours a week at $50 an hour. Long story short, between her significant bump and my modest increase this year, we'll be making $90K ish more this year than last.   

We're almost 9 years into our current house and have $110K left on the note (bought for $144K and currently Zestimated at $274K). I've got about $20K on a HELOC and she's got student loans. The wedding is in October and conversations about the future are well underway. We're always looking at new houses (or lots to build on) where we intend to raise the family and spend a good two decades or more.

My question is how to approach our debt while pursuing a new place to live. I've always been one to focus on paying down debt before most other things (there are exceptions), but it's really hard to save when you're throwing as much as you can at debt. Where should our focus be? I'm thankful for the equity we've gotten out of our house in such a short period of time, but I'd still like to have more of a down payment than that going into the next place. Is it an incredibly stupid move to back off what we're throwing at our debts in an effort to secure the type of property and house we want to live in? My debt is a bit high, but I've got a credit score of 805, so I'm not really worried in that regard.

What Hef said. Find a good financial planner, preferably one that is fee based.

You say your debt is a bit high. Other than your current mortgage and your HELOC, is there a lot else? because that mortgage and HELOC is virtually nothing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 03, 2023, 08:37:01 AM
Looking for a bit of financial advice.

Victoria started a new job this week that pays $32K per year more than her previous one. Her last job really didn't want her to leave, so she's staying on part time. She'll be giving them 20 hours a week at $50 an hour. Long story short, between her significant bump and my modest increase this year, we'll be making $90K ish more this year than last.   

We're almost 9 years into our current house and have $110K left on the note (bought for $144K and currently Zestimated at $274K). I've got about $20K on a HELOC and she's got student loans. The wedding is in October and conversations about the future are well underway. We're always looking at new houses (or lots to build on) where we intend to raise the family and spend a good two decades or more.

My question is how to approach our debt while pursuing a new place to live. I've always been one to focus on paying down debt before most other things (there are exceptions), but it's really hard to save when you're throwing as much as you can at debt. Where should our focus be? I'm thankful for the equity we've gotten out of our house in such a short period of time, but I'd still like to have more of a down payment than that going into the next place. Is it an incredibly stupid move to back off what we're throwing at our debts in an effort to secure the type of property and house we want to live in? My debt is a bit high, but I've got a credit score of 805, so I'm not really worried in that regard.

Frist things first....like Hef and Tim mentioned....talking with a professional that can really help you understand and break down your finances is always a good idea. It's pretty easy these days to suddenly realize you've over extended yourself and you've taken on too much financially.

I understand the drive and reason behind wanting to eliminate debt as fast as possible....get it off the board so to speak. But, we only live once. If there's a house/property that you guys are eyeing that you think will enhance your lives together, where you can create memories and start that foundation of living together as husband and wife....I'm in the camp of go for it. With the income you've described and everything I've learned about you through the years.....I think that you two could find a sweet spot where you're still paying down debt above the 'minimum' AND grab that property/house. You've never come off as someone who'd jump into an irresponsible investment /contract so I'm sure it'd be thought out....so that's why a meeting with a competent finacial advisor would help and (I'm sure you guys do this) a serious talk with Victoria about what you guys want your priorities to be.

Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2023, 07:33:36 PM
1970's Things That Kids No Longer Do..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPpETHiltY

I was crying laughing at a few of these.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Chino on July 04, 2023, 03:30:28 AM
Thanks for the advice, everyone. It's very much appreciated. My father's actually got a financial guy that he's been using for about two decades now. I got his info and set something up with him later this week to chat.


I understand the drive and reason behind wanting to eliminate debt as fast as possible....get it off the board so to speak. But, we only live once. If there's a house/property that you guys are eyeing that you think will enhance your lives together, where you can create memories and start that foundation of living together as husband and wife....I'm in the camp of go for it. With the income you've described and everything I've learned about you through the years.....I think that you two could find a sweet spot where you're still paying down debt above the 'minimum' AND grab that property/house. You've never come off as someone who'd jump into an irresponsible investment /contract so I'm sure it'd be thought out....so that's why a meeting with a competent finacial advisor would help and (I'm sure you guys do this) a serious talk with Victoria about what you guys want your priorities to be.

Idk... I bought $3500 worth of Rivian in Nov 2021  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on July 19, 2023, 03:13:14 PM
Welp - finally had my first full body skin check since the pandemic with a new dermatologist.  As someone with a history of basal cell carcinoma, I try to get in at least once a year.

I had two keratosis removed (doc called the barnacles which always feels great - not!) and one biopsy sent off to the lab.  Here's hoping it is not melanoma.  They doc said he was being overly cautious but women tend to get melanoma on their legs over every other body part so I now have a lovely divot on the top of my thigh. 

I also apparently have some rosacea on my face (thanks mom!) and he recommends some laser treatments which I'm sure will only cost me a few grand.   ::)

All those years of baby oil in the sun and tanning booths have finally caught up to me.  I figure every year now they will just take another chunk or two out of my hide.  :'(
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Post by: TAC on July 19, 2023, 03:16:14 PM


All those years of baby oil in the sun and tanning booths have finally caught up to me.  I figure every year now they will just take another chunk or two out of my hide.  :'(

Kind of like the smoking conversation, even back in the day, people had to know that tanning booths weren't good for them.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:11:04 PM
It's just how we are as humans.  I knowingly sometimes watch the pool and know I haven't put sunscreen on, or not wearing my sunglasses and just keep walking around the pool watching.  Fucking idiot.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on July 19, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
Welp - finally had my first full body skin check since the pandemic with a new dermatologist.  As someone with a history of basal cell carcinoma, I try to get in at least once a year.

I had two keratosis removed (doc called the barnacles which always feels great - not!) and one biopsy sent off to the lab.  Here's hoping it is not melanoma.  They doc said he was being overly cautious but women tend to get melanoma on their legs over every other body part so I now have a lovely divot on the top of my thigh. 

I also apparently have some rosacea on my face (thanks mom!) and he recommends some laser treatments which I'm sure will only cost me a few grand.   ::)

All those years of baby oil in the sun and tanning booths have finally caught up to me.  I figure every year now they will just take another chunk or two out of my hide.  :'(

Mrs. P has had at least 20 Mohs surgeries (one on her shin was quite extensive and was a horror to heal). For at least 5 years she's had to go to the dermatologist every six months for other minor removals. About 2 years ago, the Doc gave her some topical chemo cream that she had to apply for a couple of weeks that would raise precancerous lesions to the surface and allow them to sluff off. Then she'd wait six weeks and do it again. It was pretty horrific (red rash) for the first year, this past year though, nothing bad has risen to the surface. At her last appointment, the Doc felt confident enough to have her back off to only annual checkups! 

Now we religiously put on 75 spf every time we go out in the sun for more than 10 minutes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on July 19, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
That sounds horrible!  But I'm glad she's through the worst of it.

I sure hope the younger generation is learning from our mistakes in this area.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 06:21:48 PM
That sounds horrible!  But I'm glad she's through the worst of it.

I sure hope the younger generation is learning from our mistakes in this area.

I'm sceptical on that.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on July 21, 2023, 02:46:55 PM
That sounds horrible!  But I'm glad she's through the worst of it.

I sure hope the younger generation is learning from our mistakes in this area.

They might be, but, like every generation, they're making their own set of mistakes.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on August 10, 2023, 01:42:25 PM
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Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Chino on August 10, 2023, 01:50:51 PM
I've read that the biggest hurdle to converting malls into living spaces is the building codes required for secondary exits incase of an emergency. It's easy to build a bunch of interior rooms in old stores with lots of floor space. Having access to a way outside should a fire start is a a bit trickier.   

I'm curious to see what the old malls become. I'm guessing aging community colleges are going to start scooping them up instead of renovating existing campuses. I wouldn't mind general entertainment venues. Load them up with bars and group activity places. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Jamesman42 on August 10, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
I wouldn't mind general entertainment venues. Load them up with bars and group activity places. 

Adult malls.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on August 10, 2023, 08:35:09 PM
I'm guessing aging community colleges are going to start scooping them up instead of renovating existing campuses. I wouldn't mind general entertainment venues. Load them up with bars and group activity places.

Our county community college bought a vacant Lowe's store and converted 4/5 of it into a technology center, so you're not far off.  Though community colleges in this area don't really have budget problems and can expand with ease until they become completely land-locked. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on August 18, 2023, 05:41:01 PM
Another fun thing about getting old:

Random hairs in random places on your body that go "My time has arrived!  I will now grow faster... longer... thicker... stronger!"

It's like some mutation gets triggered and BAM! mutant hair somewhere (including places that normally don't have hair.  WTF?)
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 18, 2023, 06:15:41 PM
I never lost hair, it just got a change of address.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 19, 2023, 01:44:45 PM
Tell me about it. I think I trim my ear and nose hair more than anything else now. Never was even a thing until recent years. Drives me crazy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on August 19, 2023, 02:04:14 PM
I just re-caulked the bathtub. Took off the old anti slip pads, put on new anti slip strips.

I really hate my knees, don't I?
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2023, 02:52:08 PM
I can't understand why the hair on my head are all jumping off like they are on a sinking ship yet I can grow a fucking jungle in my asscrack.  Like, WTF?!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on August 19, 2023, 07:20:59 PM
I can't understand why the hair on my head are all jumping off like they are on a sinking ship yet I can grow a fucking jungle in my asscrack.  Like, WTF?!


Must all look the same to your hair!  ;D ;D




I'm kidding! :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2023, 04:27:18 AM
You fucker!  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on August 21, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
Another fun thing about getting old:

Random hairs in random places on your body that go "My time has arrived!  I will now grow faster... longer... thicker... stronger!"

It's like some mutation gets triggered and BAM! mutant hair somewhere (including places that normally don't have hair.  WTF?)

And it fucking happens overnight!  You go to sleep and everything is fine.  You get to work the next day and, after taking a whiz, you look at your face in the bathroom mirror, and BAM!  There's a 4-inch hair growing out of your eyebrow.  Dafuq!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 04, 2023, 09:01:18 PM
Stumbled into a Culver's (semi-fast food that you order at the counter, then they bring it out to your table) after half a day of driving, tired, stoned, hungry.  After the wife and I confer, we're ready to order, except it turns out that we weren't ready to order.  Some things still had to be worked out.  Eventually I paid and she gave us the little number thing to put on the table.  I glanced at the receipt and saw that we were given the Senior Discount.  Yeah, fuckin' old people, taking too damned long to order.  I wasn't even mad.  Gimme that 5% discount.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 05, 2023, 04:19:46 AM
I get the senior discount at Dunkin Donuts all the time. Lol. I post about it on Facebook and the calamity begins.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 05, 2023, 06:57:08 AM
I'm still trying to remember to ask for the senior discount when we go places.  Not everyone has one, of course, but if they do, hey, I'll take a couple of bucks off here and there.  Discount has no pride.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 05, 2023, 06:59:00 AM
I'm still trying to remember to ask for the senior discount when we go places.  Not everyone has one, of course, but if they do, hey, I'll take a couple of bucks off here and there.  Discount has no pride.

No it doesn't.  :lol  I finally got my first letter from AARP.  I never opened it. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 05, 2023, 12:10:36 PM
We've been getting the AARP newsletter and magazine for a while now.  I glance at the magazine, and if there's someone on the cover that I care about, I might skim the article.  That's about it.  Otherwise it all goes straight into the recycling.


But senior discounts save me money.  We went to a museum recently, and the sign said:

Adults $12
Seniors $10
Children $5

I was glad that they listed it that way, because I'm used to just paying Adult price, and this reminded me that I can save a few bucks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 05, 2023, 01:52:17 PM
It's a great thing to get to the age where you get discounts. Better than being dead.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Samsara on September 05, 2023, 04:22:07 PM
Went to the doc because of some reflux issues. It was getting that I couldn't sing, and that wasn't gonna work for me. Other than telling me (not in these words) that my fat ass needs to lose the gut, got some Rx help, and holy hell, I can sing again! Made my day this morning after day 4 on the meds. Gonna warm up on the way home and sing some tunes.   :metal

Now to lose some weight. I can't go full Nick (who shouldn't be in this thread yet), because you never go full Nick.  :lol But I think I can shed 20 or so just by cutting out the BS. For short dudes like me, keeping the weight under control is a big thing.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Grappler on September 06, 2023, 08:07:06 AM
Now to lose some weight. I can't go full Nick (who shouldn't be in this thread yet), because you never go full Nick.  :lol But I think I can shed 20 or so just by cutting out the BS. For short dudes like me, keeping the weight under control is a big thing.

We're in the same boat.  My weight crept up over the last year due to stress eating.  It started when girl scout cookies went on sale and we bought a ton from my daughter.   I was eating a box a day sometimes and then I developed an Oreo habit.  :lol

I tend to eat better when I go into the office - I bring my lunch and snacks and only eat that for the morning and afternoon.  A lighter dinner (Lean Cusine) then helps as well. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on September 12, 2023, 03:10:28 PM
It's a great thing to get to the age where you get discounts. Better than being dead.

Not sure how to take that one... better than being dead I mean.  :lol

Being 43, I'm remembering all the times that my brother (10 years older than I) said "your 40's will show you what kind of man you are"... hmmm.  Let's see:

Back spasms: once this year (only other time in 2019 at a Golf Tourney)
Osteoarthritis Diagnosis (Clavicle): diagnosed at 42 and I've had two "episodes" with it (prednisone took care of it)
Knee pain for the first time in my life (years of squats and basketball on rubberized floors)
General soreness in places I've never had it (knees as mentioned, calves, buttocks, shoulders, etc)

The Osteoarthritis in my clavicle is basically my fault according to the Osteopath... years of push-ups, bench presses, and shoulder presses having worn away the right joint.  The good news about that is that I have no issues lifting or with mobility as long as push-ups and shoulder presses are avoided; I use a mace for shoulder exercises and a python for chest exercises.  Sold all of my free-weights a couple of years ago and I only use a pull-up bar, python, kettlebells, and a mace.

Ice baths help as well.  No discounts yet tho...
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 12, 2023, 03:21:17 PM
I'm 57, so 40 doesn't seem that old anymore.  However, I am retiring early so I'll be much younger than most retirees. lol  It's all relative I suppose. :dunno:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 12, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
My dad got to retire at 59.  I wish.  I'm 55.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on September 12, 2023, 04:10:06 PM
When I was in my 30's, I remember considering myself relatively young.  Once I hit 40, it seemed like my body started going to shit.  Random aches and pains, noticeable decline in energy levels, etc.  Right around then, I happened to catch an episode of Family Feud and the question was At what age do most men say that the indiscretions of their youth start to catch up with them?  Or something like that.  I said 40's, because it seemed obvious to me and I was just thinking about it.  Options we 20's, 30's, 40's, etc.  Number 1 answer was 40's.  Somehow I felt vindicated, though it honestly didn't make me feel any better.  :lol

So yeah, your 40's is when you start to feel it.  All that shit you did to your body when you were young and indestructible, you get to pay for that now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on September 12, 2023, 04:22:18 PM
When I was in my 30's, I remember considering myself relatively young.  Once I hit 40, it seemed like my body started going to shit.  Random aches and pains, noticeable decline in energy levels, etc.  Right around then, I happened to catch an episode of Family Feud and the question was At what age do most men say that the indiscretions of their youth start to catch up with them?  Or something like that.  I said 40's, because it seemed obvious to me and I was just thinking about it.  Options we 20's, 30's, 40's, etc.  Number 1 answer was 40's.  Somehow I felt vindicated, though it honestly didn't make me feel any better.  :lol

So yeah, your 40's is when you start to feel it. All that shit you did to your body when you were young and indestructible, you get to pay for that now.

Thanks for lifting my spirits Orbert  :lol  If the bold above is true, guess I'll soon be peeing whiskey and confined to only one position with Mrs. Grad that doesn't hurt my back or shoulder (Mrs. Grad was quite wild when we were younger... actually she's still quite wild as long as I keep up).

Me thinks that in my 50's, I'll resort to Rogan's playbook and take stem-cell injections.  :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 12, 2023, 04:23:49 PM
I had this thought that my mom passed away at 64 years old. I'm less than 9 years away. That's crazy.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2023, 06:31:42 AM
I had this thought that my mom passed away at 64 years old. I'm less than 9 years away. That's crazy.

My grandfather dropped dead at 60...and my wife is the same age!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Zydar on September 13, 2023, 06:49:09 AM
My dad passed when he was 50 - I'm 42 in December.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2023, 07:00:15 AM
My dad passed when he was 50 - I'm 42 in December.

Wow.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 13, 2023, 07:47:36 AM
I never thought of this stuff in my 20's.  Hits you hard now.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 13, 2023, 10:49:11 AM
Been a banner year for me. Got put on prostate meds at the start of the year after discovering I have a large one. This week I started taking Celebrex for my raging arthritis thanks to my accident 16 years ago. Fun getting old.

Just in time for my new bowling league to start up this week. Finally back to it after Covid killed my old longtime league.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2023, 10:53:43 AM
Finally back to it after Covid killed my old longtime league.

This is good news.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Stadler on September 13, 2023, 11:21:27 AM
Been a banner year for me. Got put on prostate meds at the start of the year after discovering I have a large one. This week I started taking Celebrex for my raging arthritis thanks to my accident 16 years ago. Fun getting old.

Just in time for my new bowling league to start up this week. Finally back to it after Covid killed my old longtime league.

Used to be something to be proud of.  :) :) :) :)

Here's to hoping you finish the year strong.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2023, 12:58:06 PM
Finally back to it after Covid killed my old longtime league.

This is good news.

Hopefully it was just the league that was killed, not all of the other participants!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 13, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Finally back to it after Covid killed my old longtime league.

This is good news.

Hopefully it was just the league that was killed, not all of the other participants!

Yeah, that was a little vague. No one died, although I was probably the youngest person in the league so not entirely far fetched. New league is much closer to home which is nice.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 13, 2023, 02:37:19 PM
It's a great thing to get to the age where you get discounts. Better than being dead.

Not sure how to take that one... better than being dead I mean.  :lol

Generally speaking, being alive is better than being dead.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: vtgrad on September 13, 2023, 03:54:32 PM
It's a great thing to get to the age where you get discounts. Better than being dead.

Not sure how to take that one... better than being dead I mean.  :lol

Generally speaking, being alive is better than being dead.

Ah, I may have misinterpreted your comment.  As in the discounts are almost better than being dead.  Just reading too fast I suppose.  Also, being alive better than being dead depends on the life one is living; that's dark but I believe it's true.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 17, 2023, 12:43:25 PM
It's a great thing to get to the age where you get discounts. Better than being dead.

Not sure how to take that one... better than being dead I mean.  :lol

Generally speaking, being alive is better than being dead.

Ah, I may have misinterpreted your comment.  As in the discounts are almost better than being dead.  Just reading too fast I suppose.  Also, being alive better than being dead depends on the life one is living; that's dark but I believe it's true.

true, suffering sucks.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on March 15, 2024, 12:00:18 PM
Anyone out there on statins?

I'm one week into Crestor 5 mg daily (very small dose) to get my LDL cholesterol down.  And I feel like SHIT.

Headaches, body aches, muscle weakness, malaise, foggy brain.  Last night I had what felt like a low blood sugar reaction where I got very shaky and confused but after I had some juice, I felt better.  This makes me worried that it is causing me to fall over into diabetes - which I am at risk for.

People I've spoken to tell me to give it 2 weeks and that the side effects will ease up.  Unfortunately, I'm one of those people who tend to get side effects to almost any medicine and so I tend to avoid pharmaceuticals at all costs.  But I also know that high cholesterol is very dangerous and I do have genetic risk factors in this area.

Ugh, I hate feeling like shit and it is really impacting my ability to keep my workouts on track.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: pg1067 on March 15, 2024, 01:16:29 PM
Anyone out there on statins?

I'm one week into Crestor 5 mg daily (very small dose) to get my LDL cholesterol down.  And I feel like SHIT.

Headaches, body aches, muscle weakness, malaise, foggy brain.  Last night I had what felt like a low blood sugar reaction where I got very shaky and confused but after I had some juice, I felt better.  This makes me worried that it is causing me to fall over into diabetes - which I am at risk for.

People I've spoken to tell me to give it 2 weeks and that the side effects will ease up.  Unfortunately, I'm one of those people who tend to get side effects to almost any medicine and so I tend to avoid pharmaceuticals at all costs.  But I also know that high cholesterol is very dangerous and I do have genetic risk factors in this area.

Ugh, I hate feeling like shit and it is really impacting my ability to keep my workouts on track.

Back in 2015, I was hospitalized for a week for atrial fibrilation (sp?).  Since then, I've been seeing a cardiologist twice a year and have been on 6 different daily meds.  Relative to cholesterol, I take 20mg of Atorvastatin per day.  My LDL is great (although my HDL is a bit low, which is why my doc dropped the dosage from 40mg), and I don't have any significant side effects from any of the meds (a couple of the other meds I take make me need to pee a lot in the morning, but that's not from the Atorvastatin).  If your side effects don't ease up, have a chat with your doctor about a different med.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Orbert on March 15, 2024, 01:43:27 PM
I was prescribed 80 mg of Atorvastatin daily back in 2011 when an angiogram revealed total blockage of one of my coronary arteries and significant blockage of two others.  They cut that back to 40 mg a month after my surgery.  Cholesterol is some bad shit and you don't want that clogging up your arteries.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on March 15, 2024, 06:02:11 PM
Yeah, thanks guys.  I'm going to try and stick it out another week.  Then I'll call the doc and see if I can do an every other day dose.  A cardiologist I follow on TT had a post about side effects and mentioned Crestor has a long half life so every other day dosing can be used to titrate up on the medication while monitoring cholesterol with lab work.

I'm really hoping not to do the switching around from one drug to another thing because I will definitely get side effects to any/all so getting through the first couple of weeks is hell no matter what I get put on.

One thing I like about the medication so far is the pills are so VERY tiny.  Almost like the head of a pin!
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: DragonAttack on March 16, 2024, 08:29:15 AM
I started 20MG atorvastatin six months ago.  I take it EOD, basically because I forget half the time. :lol    My 205 cholesterol number is now way down to 171. I'm sure a couple other minor changes have helped along the way. 

Sorry about your side effects.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on March 16, 2024, 10:25:40 PM
We had our first kid when I was 35. She and I would spend hours at the playground running around, playing tag, chase, and all that. We had our second when I was 41. Now I am 47, and it is hard on this old body at the park with this one. 
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Adami on March 17, 2024, 07:41:50 AM
Definitely tell the doc. They can just switch up the type of statin.


I have family history of this stuff. So i got out on statins last year because my cholesterol was insane and I don’t eat meat, or smoke, or any of that stuff. Initially put on 40mg then cut down to 20. Cholesterol is now like 125. So I might see if they can half it again.

But no side effects other than mild joint pain the first week.

I’d strongly suggest just asking them to switch up the type of statin.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Harmony on March 17, 2024, 04:12:18 PM
Today is the first day in the past 9 days that I've felt human again.  I very much appreciate the posts.  I'm going to stick it out a little bit longer.  From everything I've read on the interwebs, Crestor seems to have one of the lowest side effect profiles of statins.  Of course everyone reacts differently to different meds so switching might be helpful if things don't continue to improve.  I think there is a small subset of people who simply cannot do statins at all.  There are other options for them too, so I'm sure eventually I will stumble upon the right drug.

Now I have a Huey Lewis and The News song stuck in my head.  Hey that would make a great pharmaceutical ad song!   :laugh:
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Cool Chris on March 17, 2024, 04:20:25 PM
Are you hip to be square?

Glad you are better. I have no idea what statins are. Guess I have avoided that malady so far.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: Podaar on March 17, 2024, 04:59:25 PM
I wanna new drug, one that won’t make sick
One that won’t make me crash my car
One that won’t make me feel three feet thick
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: King Postwhore on March 17, 2024, 06:00:35 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 17, 2024, 10:07:43 PM
I've been on simvastatin (Zocor) for years now. Can't recall ever having any side effects. My cholesterol was never terribly bad. My triglycerides are the problem. Nice little genetic condition that makes them sky high even on a good diet. Almost killed me in my early 20's.
Title: Re: The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 18, 2024, 06:19:20 AM
I'm on plenty of medicines, but I've always been lucky with side effects not really hitting for me on most of them.