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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: deslock on March 27, 2015, 05:22:12 AM
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Does this exist?
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No.
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It does exist actually, but it has a lot of other stuff missing as well; The "Greatest Hit (...And 21 Other Pretty Cool Songs)" version of Home is about 5-6 minutes, missing tons of stuff, but it has no moaning.
Besides that, I can only assume (cannot remember correctly for each one) that most live versions either do not have them, or they're inaudible.
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Whenever I listen to that version, I do those moans myself.
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:zydar:
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It does exist actually, but it has a lot of other stuff missing as well; The "Greatest Hit (...And 21 Other Pretty Cool Songs)" version of Home is about 5-6 minutes, missing tons of stuff, but it has no moaning.
Well, yeah.
Besides that, I can only assume (cannot remember correctly for each one) that most live versions either do not have them, or they're inaudible.
They have done them live, and I have heard them.
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I bemoan the desire to hear Home without moaning.
Yeah. I only came in here to post this pun.
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Mmmmm well you could always buy all the separate tracks from Jammit (i think they are all available) and mix your own version of the song.
I'd imagine that those tracks don't have the moans included.
It's not the easiest option but it's something.
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Yes it's called 46&2 :neverusethis:
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48?
:neverusethis:
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Actually, 46&2 = 2
At least, in the computer world.
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Mmmmm well you could always buy all the separate tracks from Jammit (i think they are all available) and mix your own version of the song.
I'd imagine that those tracks don't have the moans included.
It's not the easiest option but it's something.
out of the crapton of songs i bought there, this was unfortunately not one of them.
usually these extra samples are left in the "backing track" no matter which instrument you buy (unlike "Voices," which has them in the lead vocal track... except the "this is not reality" one, for some reason!) so the only way to clearly remove them would be to buy all the instruments and mix them down on your own, sans backing track.
also, a note for anyone who does this: Jammit have compressed the tracks to make things easier to hear in their app, so a lot of the natural dynamics in the song structure are minimized – you should hear how squished poor "Trial of Tears" gets :(
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I bemoan the desire to hear Home without moaning.
Yeah. I only came in here to post this pun.
+1
I don't mind the moaning when I'm listening to the album on headphones. But I can't play it on speakers at work or when my kids or their friends are around... I imagine the subsequent awkward conversation being something like:
"Why are you listening to porn in public/while my 10 year old is at your place? What's wrong with you?"
"No no, it's not porn. It's part of a progressive metal concept album. See, one of the characters is addicted to gambling and drugs, so his girlfriend cheats on him with his brother and... wait, don't leave. I haven't finished explaining the nuances of the story."
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"No no, it's not porn. It's part of a progressive metal concept album. See, one of the characters is addicted to gambling and drugs, so his girlfriend cheats on him with his brother and... wait, don't leave. I haven't finished explaining the nuances of the story."
:D :lol
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"No no, it's not porn. It's part of a progressive metal concept album. See, one of the characters is addicted to gambling and drugs, so his girlfriend cheats on him with his brother and... wait, don't leave. I haven't finished explaining the nuances of the story."
:D :lol
She wasn't interested in the nuggets, huh?
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Anyone have the same experience with Bon Jovi's Social Disease? I am still conscious of turning it down at the start :lol
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Anyone have the same experience with Bon Jovi's Social Disease? I am still conscious of turning it down at the start :lol
Yep :lol
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I don't mind the moaning when I'm listening to the album on headphones. But I can't play it on speakers at work or when my kids or their friends are around... I imagine the subsequent awkward conversation being something like:
"Why are you listening to porn in public/while my 10 year old is at your place? What's wrong with you?"
"No no, it's not porn. It's part of a progressive metal concept album. See, one of the characters is addicted to gambling and drugs, so his girlfriend cheats on him with his brother and... wait, don't leave. I haven't finished explaining the nuances of the story."
I think one of my friends asked, "Is this Rammstein?" :lol
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If you find the isolated track with JUST the moaning, could you let me know? :angel:
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I wonder how many stock moaning girl soundbites they went through before they found that one.
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I wonder how many stock moaning girl soundbites they went through before they found that one.
That being said, if it is indeed stock material, (which it probably is, since the screams in Finally Free were stock), then it's probably out there.
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I'd rather listen to the first 15 seconds of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p0q39oTsI
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I'd rather listen to the first 15 seconds of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p0q39oTsI
Video is not available but I know what you mean anyway. I haven't listened to Kings of Metal in years but I do love it. That is possibly the worst song on it but I never skipped it because it's so awesomely politically incorrect :lol
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I'd rather listen to the first 15 seconds of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p0q39oTsI
Video is not available but I know what you mean anyway. I haven't listened to Kings of Metal in years but I do love it. That is possibly the worst song on it but I never skipped it because it's so awesomely politically incorrect :lol
Definitely not the best song on the CD. I only listened to it for a couple of minutes and then go blast Hail and Kill.
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I'd rather listen to the first 15 seconds of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p0q39oTsI
Video is not available but I know what you mean anyway. I haven't listened to Kings of Metal in years but I do love it. That is possibly the worst song on it but I never skipped it because it's so awesomely politically incorrect :lol
Definitely not the best song on the CD. I only listened to it for a couple of minutes and then go blast Hail and Kill.
H&K is one of my fave Manowar tracks. End of off topic.
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I think John Myung should do the moaning whenever they play it live.
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I bemoan the desire to hear Home without moaning.
Why wouldn't someone want to hear the full song? Is it a discomfort with sex?
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I bemoan the desire to hear Home without moaning.
Why wouldn't someone want to hear the full song? Is it a discomfort with sex?
Listening to Home in a car full of kids or even your parents would make for a really awkward moment.
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I bemoan the desire to hear Home without moaning.
Why wouldn't someone want to hear the full song? Is it a discomfort with sex?
Listening to Home in a car full of kids or even your parents would make for a really awkward moment.
This happened to me a little over a year ago. I don't know if my dad noticed it or not, but it was still a tense moment.
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I think when I played the CD with my Dad, he didn't quite understand the concept of a concept album or what the album was about, so I think he was really confused
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I bemoan the desire to hear Home without moaning.
Why wouldn't someone want to hear the full song? Is it a discomfort with sex?
Maybe they want to hear the instruments playing the music without being distracted. Even if it's just a simple build like in Home, it's cool to hear it without the samples distracting from the music.
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I've listened to it in the car with my kids and never had any problem.
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Just tell you're kids the people on the song are just rock climbing or something.
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Well, I just told them there were people having sex in the background, so it wasn't an issue.
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Well, I just told them there were people having sex in the background, so it wasn't an issue.
What?! You can't just tell kids the truth!!!
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Well, I just told them there were people having sex in the background, so it wasn't an issue.
How to do parenting right.
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Well, I just told them there were people having sex in the background, so it wasn't an issue.
Unless they get the wrong idea and start thinking that Dream Theater has intense sex going on while they record their music. :lol
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Well, I just told them there were people having sex in the background, so it wasn't an issue.
Unless they get the wrong idea and start thinking that Dream Theater has intense sex going on while they record their music. :lol
Interesting idea.
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Well, I just told them there were people having sex in the background, so it wasn't an issue.
Unless they get the wrong idea and start thinking that Dream Theater has intense sex going on while they record their music. :lol
Interesting idea.
I just hope it's not compressed. I hate compressed sex.
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That's what she said.
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Why does it say that? :lol
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What?
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I guess he has the filter on.
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I would love to be banned.
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I guess he has the filter on.
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I guess he has the filter on.
Okay, I'll bite. What filter?
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The filter that replaces "Thatswhatshesaid", if it's correctly spaced, with "I would love to be banned."
You can turn it off somewhere in your using settings.
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:lol
I'll mess with the settings later.
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*points to sig*
People aren't having sex in the background. It's a recorded sample of people having sex. Tell your kids the truth FFS. :lol
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The filter that replaces "Thatswhatshesaid", if it's correctly spaced, with "I would love to be banned."
You can turn it off somewhere in your using settings.
Wait, that's automatic? And here I thought that mods have been going out of their way to change my "thatswhatshesaid" posts.
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THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
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how did they even get the sound of the moaning?
did they secretly plant a microphone in one of the band member's rooms while they were having sex with a loud chick? Did they look up a video on a 90's porn site and rip the audio?
these things i need to know
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how did they even get the sound of the moaning?
did they secretly plant a microphone in one of the band member's rooms while they were having sex with a loud chick? Did they look up a video on a 90's porn site and rip the audio?
these things i need to know
it would be so much easier if there were pre-recorded libraries of every sound imaginable that one could obtain and use in such a situation!
oh, right...
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how did they even get the sound of the moaning?
did they secretly plant a microphone in one of the band member's rooms while they were having sex with a loud chick? Did they look up a video on a 90's porn site and rip the audio?
these things i need to know
it would be so much easier if there were pre-recorded libraries of every sound imaginable that one could obtain and use in such a situation!
oh, right...
yeah cause porn would totally be a category...
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Isn't that how the created SFAM in the first place? Myung was watching porno and it bled into the drum mics. Rather than re-record, they just wrote some lyrics to make it seem like it was always meant to be that way?
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how did they even get the sound of the moaning?
did they secretly plant a microphone in one of the band member's rooms while they were having sex with a loud chick? Did they look up a video on a 90's porn site and rip the audio?
these things i need to know
it would be so much easier if there were pre-recorded libraries of every sound imaginable that one could obtain and use in such a situation!
oh, right...
yeah cause porn would totally be a category...
It would. Believe it or not, sex has been around a long time and as such has been part of a couple stories.
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:omg:
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no wai i thought it was a recent invention
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my virgin ears...
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Macaulay Culkin could star in a new film: "Home, a moan". All about this thread.
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Macaulay Culkin could star in a new film: "Home, a moan". All about this thread.
:facepalm:
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how did they even get the sound of the moaning?
did they secretly plant a microphone in one of the band member's rooms while they were having sex with a loud chick? Did they look up a video on a 90's porn site and rip the audio?
these things i need to know
it would be so much easier if there were pre-recorded libraries of every sound imaginable that one could obtain and use in such a situation!
oh, right...
yeah cause porn would totally be a category...
i guarantee the same sound library they used to make the sound FX collage in "Finally Free" and other parts of the album also has the moaning from "Home." we're talking about film effects libraries; they HAVE to contain every sound imaginable, for foley and ADR purposes. it's far more cost-effective than using recording hours, including music projects.
(now, if only someone could figure out which library that is...)
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I think that they got the SFX from one of the pieces of software that Jordan was using at the time. IIRC they discuss the piece of software from which they sourced the sound from the intro of Home in the LSFNY commentary but I haven't looked into it yet.
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I think that they got the SFX from one of the pieces of software that Jordan was using at the time. IIRC they discuss the piece of software from which they sourced the sound from the intro of Home in the LSFNY commentary but I haven't looked into it yet.
Speaking of canned SFX - dialogue - screams.
The SFAM murder scream is in just about every other Halloween time ad I hear.
Dr. Davis from Queensryche Operation Mindcrime is a pretty popular sound library bit as well.
At least they didn't use the Wilhelm
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I think that they got the SFX from one of the pieces of software that Jordan was using at the time. IIRC they discuss the piece of software from which they sourced the sound from the intro of Home in the LSFNY commentary but I haven't looked into it yet.
Speaking of canned SFX - dialogue - screams.
The SFAM murder scream is in just about every other Halloween time ad I hear.
Dr. Davis from Queensryche Operation Mindcrime is a pretty popular sound library bit as well.
At least they didn't use the Wilhelm
They used that in LOTR. With all of the technology used in that movie, they still went old school for that scream. :lol
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I think that they got the SFX from one of the pieces of software that Jordan was using at the time. IIRC they discuss the piece of software from which they sourced the sound from the intro of Home in the LSFNY commentary but I haven't looked into it yet.
Speaking of canned SFX - dialogue - screams.
The SFAM murder scream is in just about every other Halloween time ad I hear.
Dr. Davis from Queensryche Operation Mindcrime is a pretty popular sound library bit as well.
At least they didn't use the Wilhelm
They used that in LOTR. With all of the technology used in that movie, they still went old school for that scream. :lol
The Wilhelm is only used as a fun nugget these days, rather than as a legitimate sound effect. :lol
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I think that they got the SFX from one of the pieces of software that Jordan was using at the time. IIRC they discuss the piece of software from which they sourced the sound from the intro of Home in the LSFNY commentary but I haven't looked into it yet.
Speaking of canned SFX - dialogue - screams.
The SFAM murder scream is in just about every other Halloween time ad I hear.
Dr. Davis from Queensryche Operation Mindcrime is a pretty popular sound library bit as well.
At least they didn't use the Wilhelm
They used that in LOTR. With all of the technology used in that movie, they still went old school for that scream. :lol
The Wilhelm is only used as a fun nugget these days, rather than as a legitimate sound effect. :lol
They should have used it in Metropolis 2. That would have been the ultimate fun nugget.
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Macaulay Culkin could star in a new film: "Home, a moan". All about this thread.
:facepalm:
You love puns.
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I've been working on a moan free version for about a week now. I think I finally got it to my liking. The whole build up is gone, so it goes right into the solo. I like Home just fine the way it is, although it's still awkward when on in the car, but this was just a fun project to see if I could. I think it turned out pretty good.
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I always get nervous when Home is playing on the speakers and there's people close to me :lol
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I've been working on a moan free version for about a week now. I think I finally got it to my liking. The whole build up is gone, so it goes right into the solo. I like Home just fine the way it is, although it's still awkward when on in the car, but this was just a fun project to see if I could. I think it turned out pretty good.
You could've just muted the right channel and made that section mono
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I want the version of Home that only has the moaning :tup
Wait a second, isn't there a whole industry dedicated to that stuff? :justjen
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Controversial opinion: SFAM would be better if they followed up the sex scene with a sexy, bendy screamy guitar solo, instead of an unsexy, nerdy keytar solo, which sounds slightly comedic in context
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I don't hate Jordan's solo there, but you're probably right. And this is coming from a keyboard player. I know they try to give Jordan his moments and his solos, too, but in this context, it does seem like a weird choice, though I've never really thought about it before.
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I don't hate Jordan's solo there, but you're probably right. And this is coming from a keyboard player. I know they try to give Jordan his moments and his solos, too, but in this context, it does seem like a weird choice, though I've never really thought about it before.
Hmm. Other than "And this is coming from a keyboard player" (because I'm not), I agree with every word of that.
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I've been working on a moan free version for about a week now. I think I finally got it to my liking. The whole build up is gone, so it goes right into the solo. I like Home just fine the way it is, although it's still awkward when on in the car, but this was just a fun project to see if I could. I think it turned out pretty good.
You could've just muted the right channel and made that section mono
Where's the challenge in that? Plus, when muting one channel and making the other into stereo, it sounds bad.
In regards to Jordan's solo:
(https://i.imgur.com/DsIGDN0.jpg)
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I think that's one of Jordan's best DT solos. He had so much melody and themes on his lead solos on the LTE-SFAM-SDOIT era, now, he pretty much just plays fast scale runs and arpeggios.
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I think that's one of Jordan's best DT solos. He had so much melody and themes on his lead solos on the LTE-SFAM-SDOIT era, now, he pretty much just plays fast scale runs and arpeggios.
Except that Astonishing has beautiful piano work from Jordan with very little wankery
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I think that's one of Jordan's best DT solos. He had so much melody and themes on his lead solos on the LTE-SFAM-SDOIT era, now, he pretty much just plays fast scale runs and arpeggios.
Except that Astonishing has beautiful piano work from Jordan with very little wankery
I was referring to his lead solos, I have no problem with the rest of his playing, he's my favorite DT keyboardist by far.
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I think that's one of Jordan's best DT solos. He had so much melody and themes on his lead solos on the LTE-SFAM-SDOIT era, now, he pretty much just plays fast scale runs and arpeggios.
I agree. Beginning with TOT he started playing a lot less melodically. There are still some really nice ones after that however, such as the Octavarium solo, AFTR and BTS (even though I don't care for the patch itself,) ending of Dystopian Overture, and probably 1 or 2 others I forgot. But if you really want melodic JR lead solos, his 2 full band solo albums Feeding the Wheel and Rhythm of Time are a must.
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I think that's one of Jordan's best DT solos. He had so much melody and themes on his lead solos on the LTE-SFAM-SDOIT era, now, he pretty much just plays fast scale runs and arpeggios.
I agree. Beginning with TOT he started playing a lot less melodically. There are still some really nice ones after that however, such as the Octavarium solo, AFTR and BTS (even though I don't care for the patch itself,) ending of Dystopian Overture, and probably 1 or 2 others I forgot. But if you really want melodic JR lead solos, his 2 full band solo albums Feeding the Wheel and Rhythm of Time are a must.
Yeah, those are great solos and albums! I just wish he went for more melodic solos on DT albums, instead of just going through fast scales and lines. I also think his lead tone was much better on that era than now.
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For me, I like his recent lead tone just as much as his older Kurzweil ones, problem is he rarely does it justice because it's just runs. The lead sound he has now has potential to be really expressive but he just doesn't show it much. The intro of OTBOA or the end of Dystopian Overture show it in a clearer form. I like some of the grungy harmonics it has. I do miss his old smoother SFAM era lead though! Working on programming it on my own synth.
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For me, I like his recent lead tone just as much as his older Kurzweil ones, problem is he rarely does it justice because it's just runs. The lead sound he has now has potential to be really expressive but he just doesn't show it much. The intro of OTBOA or the end of Dystopian Overture show it in a clearer form. I like some of the grungy harmonics it has. I do miss his old smoother SFAM era lead though! Working on programming it on my own synth.
I think he overdoes that harmonic thing sometimes, but the idea is really cool! His SFAM lead was :hefdaddy
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I think he overdoes that harmonic thing sometimes, but the idea is really cool! His SFAM lead was :hefdaddy
Agree with all of this.
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In response to the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCztN84YlA
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In response to the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCztN84YlA
How was this done? Is there an instrumental of the song floating around without sound effects?
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In response to the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCztN84YlA
How was this done? Is there an instrumental of the song floating around without sound effects?
I found someone on YouTube who had uploaded all the stems, so I opened the actual song mp3 in Audacity, then cut it off once the moaning section started (& replaced it with all the instrumental stems), then put the song mp3 back after it ended. ;D
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'WHO WANTS TO CUM?!'
Nobody, apparantly :( Clean version it is
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If I wanted to hear a girl faking an orgasm I'd go have sex with one. Would love a lossless clean version. It would be great if the record company was forced at some point to provide one for distribution in some medieval Muslim majority country which censors all manner of art.
Controversial opinion: SFAM would be better if they followed up the sex scene with a sexy, bendy screamy guitar solo, instead of an unsexy, nerdy keytar solo, which sounds slightly comedic in context
Let's take that to the next level: DT would be better if they got rid of all unsexy, nerdy Rudess-style key solos.
Controversial addendum: And circus music.
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I wonder how many stock moaning girl soundbites they went through before they found that one.
That being said, if it is indeed stock material, (which it probably is, since the screams in Finally Free were stock), then it's probably out there.
I wonder if the stock screams in Finally free is available in youtube or some website, the final scream at the very end sounds so generic that It has been used in different movies its more of female sound scream than the more common Wilhelm Scream!
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The gasp is pretty stock too. I've heard it in commercials and South Park. (Interestingly, in the M2000 tour video, Edward gasps visually despite the sound effect being audibly female.)
I don't know why it is that there is no easy way for civilians to get to these clearly widely-available and royalty-free Wilhelm-type libraries.
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Hey, I don't moan that loud do I?
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The gasp is pretty stock too. I've heard it in commercials and South Park. (Interestingly, in the M2000 tour video, Edward gasps visually despite the sound effect being audibly female.)
I don't know why it is that there is no easy way for civilians to get to these clearly widely-available and royalty-free Wilhelm-type libraries.
I also heard it in a National Georgraphic documentary about Albert Einstein. The show is called Genius there is an episode where the Wife of a colleague of Einstein shot her self in the head and the people at the dinner made that female gasp from Finally free
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To the OP....get a sound editor and chop that section out. I've been trimming and fine tuning songs for the car for years, and I don't even have kids.