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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: T-ski on March 24, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
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only reason I know this is because my wife is a bit obsessed with this show.
figured some here are fans.....
https://tvline.com/2015/03/24/x-files-revival-reboot-six-new-episodes-fox/
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I wanted to love the X-Files. I really liked the movie and don't think the show is bad, but when I sat down to try and binge through it, I was beyond bored.
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I'm looking forward to this returning. I still haven't watched all of the other episodes though. I started DVRing them for a while but they kept playing the same ones over and over so I definitely haven't seen much of the later seasons.
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Oh gee can it please be 6 Myth Arc episodes that was always the best part of the show [/sarcasm]
Let's have some monster of the week episodes please, at least one legitimately scary and one hilarious. Actually let's have six funny episodes. Actually I'm just gonna watch Clive Bruckman's Final Repose, Jose Chung's From Outer Space, Small Potatoes, Bad Blood, Humbug, and...one other one, iunno.
Maybe Vince Gilligan will write an episode? His were always the best.
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Oh god have I waited for this. Hopefully they bring back the weird and scary cases from the early seasons.
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This could be interesting. I remember when my best friend got me hooked up with the show and we used to get together to watch this every single day, he's gonna be super excited when he finds out.
I wanted to love the X-Files. I really liked the movie and don't think the show is bad, but when I sat down to try and binge through it, I was beyond bored.
Well, as I said earlier I loved the show but I can understand that it doesn't appeal to you. I tried watching the earlier seasons a couple years back and it was hard for me because of the time that has passed and how tv has evolved since then.
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I never was able to get into this show, but I think it was timing more than anything. Later on, when Fringe was on, I loved that, and I've been told it was similar.
My best friend was a huge fan of X-Files, so I'm sure he is glad about this.
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I never was able to get into this show, but I think it was timing more than anything. Later on, when Fringe was on, I loved that, and I've been told it was similar.
My best friend was a huge fan of X-Files, so I'm sure he is glad about this.
Funny you say that. I tried so hard to get into Fringe. I watched 16 episodes of it and just couldn't. I think I disliked X-files for the same reason I disliked Fringe. There is an overall arching story in both shows, a very interesting one at that. Both shows have great casts (Walter in Fringe is awesome).However, I feel like both shows waste way too much time getting through the main story arch. Every episode (most episodes) has the same formula; something crazy happens, someone smart sees something the other people don't, there's an internal conflict or two, and then the crazy thing from the beginning is figured out. Along the way you might get a puzzle piece to the over arching storyline. I understand a lot of people don't mind that format, but it's too boring for my taste.
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My gf is a huge x-files fan. I watched it first time round and loved it. We are watching it again through as she got me the entire series's on DVD for christmas!
The first season looks dated but the production is noticeably better in season 2. The stories are great though. That was what got me watching in the first place.
Last year we watched Fringe straight through as well and that does get better. Gotta be said though, it's very derivative of the X-files.
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I never was able to get into this show, but I think it was timing more than anything. Later on, when Fringe was on, I loved that, and I've been told it was similar.
My best friend was a huge fan of X-Files, so I'm sure he is glad about this.
Funny you say that. I tried so hard to get into Fringe. I watched 16 episodes of it and just couldn't. I think I disliked X-files for the same reason I disliked Fringe. There is an overall arching story in both shows, a very interesting one at that. Both shows have great casts (Walter in Fringe is awesome).However, I feel like both shows waste way too much time getting through the main story arch. Every episode (most episodes) has the same formula; something crazy happens, someone smart sees something the other people don't, there's an internal conflict or two, and then the crazy thing from the beginning is figured out. Along the way you might get a puzzle piece to the over arching storyline. I understand a lot of people don't mind that format, but it's too boring for my taste.
Im with you most of the way really. The later series in Fringe do focus a lot more on the main story - and it is a cool story.
All in all though, I prefer the Breaking Bad type story arch where each episode is integral.
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These news are awesome.
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I never was able to get into this show, but I think it was timing more than anything. Later on, when Fringe was on, I loved that, and I've been told it was similar.
My best friend was a huge fan of X-Files, so I'm sure he is glad about this.
Fringe was great. I still need to watch a handful of episodes. Denethor John Noble is brilliant in that show. He has become one of my favorite actors.
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For the most part, I liked X-Files. But I liked those that furthered the greater story, and like most TV dramas, too many filler episodes just so they could get the 24 per season, and then get the new season contract. Just tell the story.
I have the whole thing on DVD, but when I sat and tried to just watch it from episode one to episode last, it started to feel like a chore. It was much easier to digest when you'd just catch it once a week. And this was before DVR was really a significant thing, so you'd either have to watch a VHS recording or just wait to see it live so you could see the better quality version. And when you missed an episode, oh well.
I think there are websites that list the "mythology" episodes which I believe means it is an episode that has something pertinent to the larger story. I always mean to write those down and rewatch just those episodes. But that sounds like something to do when you are a senior citizen and are looking for things to fill your day.
The new stuff will be something I catch, but it will probably feel odd to me.
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Liked X-files when I was a kid. Huge, huge fan of the first movie.
That said, Fringe >>>> X-Files
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I never was able to get into this show, but I think it was timing more than anything. Later on, when Fringe was on, I loved that, and I've been told it was similar.
My best friend was a huge fan of X-Files, so I'm sure he is glad about this.
Funny you say that. I tried so hard to get into Fringe. I watched 16 episodes of it and just couldn't. I think I disliked X-files for the same reason I disliked Fringe. There is an overall arching story in both shows, a very interesting one at that. Both shows have great casts (Walter in Fringe is awesome).However, I feel like both shows waste way too much time getting through the main story arch. Every episode (most episodes) has the same formula; something crazy happens, someone smart sees something the other people don't, there's an internal conflict or two, and then the crazy thing from the beginning is figured out. Along the way you might get a puzzle piece to the over arching storyline. I understand a lot of people don't mind that format, but it's too boring for my taste.
Well, it's [the X-Files] is an early 90's, largely episodic show so it's practically a given that there's going to be some filler. That said, The X-Files is one of the very few shows where the monster-of-the-week stuff was, generally, better than the storyline stuff. What X-Files did really well was in mixing things up. Some episodes were like mini horror movies, some really played up the sci-fi aspects, and others were filled with a lot of dark comedy. IMO, the 'funny' episodes tended to be the best but the show did really well with most of the styles. The early mythology stuff was really cool too, but it ran into a huge problem as the show went on. Namely, no one seemed to know wtf was going on with half of the plotlines. The early mythology stuff was really cool, but it spun out of control well before the series ended. Fringe was kind of the same way, except the monster of the week stuff was generally dull and the mythology stuff was fairly well handled, at least for the first few seasons.
So I'm really wondering what the point of this revival is. If it's to continue on with the mythology portion, then I don't give a fuck. That ceased being interesting in like Season 5 of the show and I seriously doubt that Carter has been spending the intervening years improving his plotting skills enough to make me give a fuck now. If it's more monster of the week then I have to ask... why? I guess I just don't see the point in bringing the show back for more motw stuff especially as I kinda doubt that the writing that made those episodes so great back in the day will be there now.
Then again, maybe I'll be wrong and this will be awesome. Personally, I'm far more hopeful that the Twin Peaks Season 3 manages to get off the ground than this. THAT ended on an awesome cliffhanger with a bunch of unanswered questions.
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That said, Fringe >>>> X-Files
lol no
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That said, Fringe >>>> X-Files
lol no
lol oh
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Fringe had the better mythology stuff because it seems as if someone actually thought a little about it ahead of time. X-Files, it felt like, was all just make shit up on the spot.
Fringe's monster-of-the-week stuff, on the other hand, was just a pale imitation of The X-Files. I don't recall any that were half as interesting as stuff like "Gender Bender," "Squeeze / Tooms," "Die Hand Die Verletzt," "Eve,"The Host," or "Humbug."
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It comes down to what you prefer. I like Fringe, but X-Files is on a much higher level. But I also found the Government Conspiracy main plot much more appealing than the alternative dimensions and several versions of the characters in Fringe.
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I tried watching Fringe, but I hated the characters right off the bat. "Doc Brown", his wisecracking son, and the chick nonchalantly solving weird mysteries with no sense of danger. No fear, no "holy shit, aliens." It was just another day. Completely unbelievable characters. It was like watching Charmed. No matter how big the threat, the witches didn't give a fuck, and they were never in any danger. "oh you're an evil demon who can destroy the world? Let me talk some shit."
I never made it passed the second episode, so things may have changed, but I did not like what I saw.
I didn't actively watch Charmed. My girlfriend loves the show, and I only saw it in passing. That show is awful beyond words.
I love The X-Files, but I still have a couple seasons to go. John Doggett is a cool character, but after David Duchovny left the show it was harder to stay interested.
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I tried watching Fringe, but I hated the characters right off the bat. "Doc Brown", his wisecracking son, and the chick nonchalantly solving weird mysteries with no sense of danger. No fear, no "holy shit, aliens." It was just another day. Completely unbelievable characters. It was like watching Charmed. No matter how big the threat, the witches didn't give a fuck, and they were never in any danger. "oh you're an evil demon who can destroy the world? Let me talk some shit."
I never made it passed the second episode, so things may have changed, but I did not like what I saw.
I felt the same way after watching the first episode. My girlfriend insisted I keep watching because "it gets better once you get into the story". Well after 16 episodes, my opinion remained the same and it became "it gets better in the later seasons". There were definitely some parts of Fringe that were cool and captivating, but all in all, it was too far gone from reality. I get that a suspension of belief is required in science fiction, but I have a really hard time doing that. That's probably why I don't like most science fiction movies.
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I was loving X-Files immensely but it fell off the map for me, somewhere during the fifth season when my harddrive had to be swiped, I lost all the episodes and in a turmoil of events I just kinda had other things on my plate, and it fell to the wayside. I had plans on picking up again to watch everything before the new season, but since I wasn't 100% sure which episode I left off on (plus it has been a year or so), I decided to just start from the beginning again.
So far I've seen the first three episodes. This show. :heart
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It comes back on my birthday so I'm taking that as a good sign. :lol
My friend and I have been watching through this show, I always wanted to but never had the chance as a kid. Love the show with a passion.
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Really interested in this, looking forward to what they come up with.
I love the original show, still one of the best tv series, at least for me. It was inventive and clever and the Mythology arc was great up until season five or six, when they got lost a bit in all the things they had set up. I even liked T1000 Robert Patrik as John Doggett when he replaced Duchovny, they just had to give his character more time to evolve.
And I had a serious crush on Dana Scully ;D
The first X-Files movie was great too, the second one was mostly bullshit.
So: Trust No One and The Truth Is out There. :metal
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Never watched the series.....watched all of FRINGE.
Curious as to if these episodes will require knowledge from the series/movies or if you could just start watching and not be too lost?
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From what I've heard they will continue the main storyline, but maybe have one or two monster of the week episodes as well. In X-Files you have the main story arc (a few episodes per season) and then a lot of MotW episodes, so if you don't want to watch over 9 seasons, you could just watch the main story episodes and get a fairly decent knowledge of what's happening. I'd recommend seeing it all though, and the first movie is really awesome. The second one was OK, but didn't feel like an X-Files movie.
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X-Files teaser trailer (https://youtu.be/v1K0e2Juvf0)
It's nice seeing them back together. :tup
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X-Files teaser trailer (https://youtu.be/v1K0e2Juvf0)
It's nice seeing them back together. :tup
:tup
And they sure look older but Scully is still smokin' hot :metal
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I have such mixed feelings on this. Definitely an *early adopter* in 1993. In fact, I'm pretty sure I caught the premiere episode by chance. But by the end of the series, I was starting to question if I should keep watching. I was more or less about to quit, then the final season was announced. Why stop now? So I'm not sure what version I'm going to get.
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I started watching this recently but I'm struggling to stay interested. I'm nearing the end of Season 3.
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I'm so excited for this. One of the best shows ever!
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So no one here watched it besides me? REALLY?
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I had to work Sunday night and will again Monday. My wife on the other hand had Mulder and Scully set up at a viewing party at the Star Wars cantina....
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1972551_10208227641953304_3026459140456748369_n.jpg?oh=d7f54fa4b5ef26813c7ae654cf76a4da&oe=57351722)
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I thought the first episode was tonight. Got to catch up then
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I really liked the first episode, a very nice way to get (back) into the world.
Keeping the title sequence and the info text style old school was pretty bold yet a very nice surprise.
Looking forward to the continuation and hopefully more material beyond the six episodes this year.
Greetings...
Nef
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Them keeping the intro helped it a lot. It's a signature of the series.
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I didn't really like the first episode all that much. It seemed both rushed and ultimately kind of boring. I think it might've benefited from being a two hour pilot, given it a bit more time to breathe. As it is, Duchovny seemed half asleep, Jeff Winger was largely wasted (I hope he comes back, the character has potential), and I don't like the idea of the whole 'we've been deceived all along!' retcon. I'm guessing it's going to end being one big smoke screen, but on the off chance they're playing it straight, then fuck off Carter for making nine seasons of the show ultimately pointless.
The second episode was better. Duchovny and Anderson felt a bit more comfortable and I liked how the monster-of-the-week plot tied into the mythology stuff. There were some humorous moments, some horrifying stuff, and some action. Basically it hit all of the beats that an X-Files episode should hit. Now just tighten up the writing a bit more.
Also, I'm wondering WHY the government would even reopen the X-Files in the first place? Somebody at the government must've been like 'Hey, remember that thing that caused us so much trouble twenty years ago? Yeah, The X-Files? Yeah, let's reopen that thing.' And why would Mulder and Scully even agree to work for the government again knowing what they know? They know how utterly corrupt, untrustworthy, and compromised it is and after Mulder essentially spends 5 minutes ranting about how it's even worse NOW, why even agree to go back? I think there was an interesting potential idea to show the other side of the coin. Have Joel McHale's character unofficially reopen the X-Files in a private, third party capacity, unaffiliated with the government. He says he wants to show everyone the truth, but there was a potential to show that he could be just as bad as the government; stoking people's fears, playing on their ignorance by selling falsehoods masked as the truth, and benefiting from it monetarily. That would be an interesting angle to take and I'm hoping they do it, because the seeds are there in the first episode for them to do so.
Also, I loved that they kept the original music and title sequence, grainy film and all. I figured they would try to update it or something, but nope. That's like pure, distilled nostalgia dripping right into my brain.
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I did like that the kid's name in Episode 2 was Kyle Gilligan. Perhaps if Vince was creative consultant again, the shows would be a bit better.
I semi-followed the show when first aired. My wife and I have watched all the first two seasons in the past four months. So, we're enjoying the new ones for what they are, good or bad.
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I didn't really like the first episode all that much. It seemed both rushed and ultimately kind of boring. I think it might've benefited from being a two hour pilot, given it a bit more time to breathe. As it is, Duchovny seemed half asleep, Jeff Winger was largely wasted (I hope he comes back, the character has potential), and I don't like the idea of the whole 'we've been deceived all along!' retcon. I'm guessing it's going to end being one big smoke screen, but on the off chance they're playing it straight, then fuck off Carter for making nine seasons of the show ultimately pointless.
The second episode was better. Duchovny and Anderson felt a bit more comfortable and I liked how the monster-of-the-week plot tied into the mythology stuff. There were some humorous moments, some horrifying stuff, and some action. Basically it hit all of the beats that an X-Files episode should hit. Now just tighten up the writing a bit more.
Also, I'm wondering WHY the government would even reopen the X-Files in the first place? Somebody at the government must've been like 'Hey, remember that thing that caused us so much trouble twenty years ago? Yeah, The X-Files? Yeah, let's reopen that thing.' And why would Mulder and Scully even agree to work for the government again knowing what they know? They know how utterly corrupt, untrustworthy, and compromised it is and after Mulder essentially spends 5 minutes ranting about how it's even worse NOW, why even agree to go back? I think there was an interesting potential idea to show the other side of the coin. Have Joel McHale's character unofficially reopen the X-Files in a private, third party capacity, unaffiliated with the government. He says he wants to show everyone the truth, but there was a potential to show that he could be just as bad as the government; stoking people's fears, playing on their ignorance by selling falsehoods masked as the truth, and benefiting from it monetarily. That would be an interesting angle to take and I'm hoping they do it, because the seeds are there in the first episode for them to do so.
Also, I loved that they kept the original music and title sequence, grainy film and all. I figured they would try to update it or something, but nope. That's like pure, distilled nostalgia dripping right into my brain.
I didn't like the first episode either. It was consistent with the last couple seasons of the show, where the tongue was a little too embedded in the cheek.
Episode 2 was gold. The scenes with M&S imagining parenting William were brutal. That's the show I missed.
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Was a big fan back in the day, watched also that forgetful second movie, so tell me if I got something missing because from the way I remember it all played out like this:
2001 (end of the series): Mulder is super-ultra-mega hunted by everyone in the world who isn't Scully or Skinner.
2008 (second movie): Mulder is in hiding but is unofficially lured back in to assist on an investigation.
2016 (series return): "Whatever dudes, we have a free office, care to investigate weird stuff again?"
When could Mulder walk again in public, let alone have a job at the FBI again?
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When could Mulder walk again in public, let alone have a job at the FBI again?
That was the carrot they lured him back with in the second movie (I Want To Believe) - that the FBI would quietly shut down its pursuit of Mulder if he helped them find who had killed one of their own. He got his man/men, and he was no longer a wanted man.
It does seem somewhat unlikely on the face of it that the FBI - which at the time of his exit was overrun with genetically-engineered hybridised supersoldiers - would be willing to strike that kind of a deal, which leads me to think that something went awry with the supersoldier programme; but that's all just speculation, which will hopefully be addressed at some point :).
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If they had gone that route of Mulder still being a wanted man, the new stuff would have been more reliable on people having seen S8/S9 when the craziness went down. So I fully understand why they went the soft-reboot route of just putting them in the suits again and focusing on the new stuff.
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The entire thrust of the FBI on this show from day 1 is that it is the arms of the shadowy people running the country behind the scenes and their unknown, seemingly ever-changing designs for Mulder and the X-Files. It has never been presented otherwise. So even though it's an easy way out of full explanations, the caveat of every strange and nonsensical thing the FBI does on this show is this. Trying to examine the organization – or even most characters that aren't M&S – and its actions based on logic or what the real FBI would do is completely pointless. In fact, I'd say it actually should be included in the suspension of disbelief: in the X-Files, everyone is acting according to an agenda you haven't yet uncovered.
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When could Mulder walk again in public, let alone have a job at the FBI again?
That was the carrot they lured him back with in the second movie (I Want To Believe) - that the FBI would quietly shut down its pursuit of Mulder if he helped them find who had killed one of their own. He got his man/men, and he was no longer a wanted man.
Ah, thanks! as I said I watched the movie and I remember there were some behind-the-scenes talks, I just didn't remember that the manhunt for him was basically over.
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LOVED tonight's episode. Freaking HILARIOUS.
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And...so well written, with a nice twist. You know it will tick off a lot of fans, but we loved it.
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Last night's episode was really good. Not just good, but solid enough that I think with time, people might mention it up there with the fan-favorites. Got strong vibes from Bad Blood and Jose Chung From Outer Space, in a good way. :)
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I haven't read any of the posts here, but started watching the original series last night and I'm liking it. Thing is, it's too fucking long. Is it worth the 9 seasons?
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I haven't read any of the posts here, but started watching the original series last night and I'm liking it. Thing is, it's too fucking long. Is it worth the 9 seasons?
I watched all 9 seasons fairly recently and I thought it was worth it. Mulder starts being phased out towards the end (only appears in 8 episodes I think in S8, 1 in S9) and Scully's role is also diminished towards the very end, but there's gems in every season. Personally I thought S7 (the last with Mulder really being a main character) and S9 (the last overall) were the biggest duds, but I was surprised at how much I loved S8 (the introduction of Doggett as a main character), and I would actually put S8 in my top3 favorite seasons.
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LOVED tonight's episode. Freaking HILARIOUS.
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And...so well written, with a nice twist. You know it will tick off a lot of fans, but we loved it.
I liked it as well! One of the wackiest episodes ever, but very funny and satirical, I don't know if the guy that played the lizard-man is a comedian or something but he was freakingly hilarious. Bold move to have only 6 episodes and dedicate one to this wacky story.
Oh, and the part where Mulder is in Scully's room and does all the talking answering her questions before she has a chance to ask them? golden. Scully ends up saying "That's how I like my Mulder"... yeah, we too Scully, we too!
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So far I'm loving the mini series. I'm a little bit bummed that it's only 6 episodes.
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Tonight I am starting with the pilot and will work my way through the entire series over the next few weeks. It was always on when I was younger, in the backround or whatever, but I rarely ever sat down and watched it. Kind of freaked me out as a child, but now I'm ready to embrace it.
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I was not that young, but young enough to depend on whenever it was on TV and if I had the TV for myself. For example I never saw the episode that closed up Mulder's sister arc. With everything new there is to see nowadays I'll hardly find the time to rewatch 9 seasons, but I was thinking about doing a condensed "best of", watch the episodes that I remember were good and the important ones going through the episodes descriptions, it could also be a chance to watch it in its original language (Since some years I watch everything in english, screw translations).
There are some episodes I wouldn't mind to see again, "Folie at Deux" was great and so the one about the deranged Peacock family.
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Almost done season two and over all I like the series so far. There are quite a few dumb ass episodes, but on the other hand most of the episodes are really solid, with some being incredible, so its all good.
I shall take the sour with the sweet.
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It's not just the case with X-Files but I think most shows where the seasons are up to (or over) 20 episodes. You just can't keep consistency as easily compared to a show with maybe half the episodes in a season. X-Files also went out and really tried to do creative things with its concept, and for every idea that didn't quite work, like Mulder and Scully going into a virtual game (First Person Shooter in S7) you got those really spectacular episodes like Mulder on a ship stuck in the '40s with Nazis invading (Triangle in S6) or the bank that keeps blowing up on a loop until the time loop is broken (Monday in S6).
There's some oddballs and some episodes that missed the mark, but there's also those really special episodes.
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It's not just the case with X-Files but I think most shows where the seasons are up to (or over) 20 episodes. You just can't keep consistency as easily compared to a show with maybe half the episodes in a season.
This also affects, depending on the premise of the show, its credibility. For example take the ever famous Murder, She Wrote with Angela Lansbury as Jessica Fletcher... wherever she goes someone gets killed, and when she stays at home, someone gets killed as well. Come on.
Same for House, I never watched it but it is my understanding that House spent 8 years solving a complex medical case each week with everyone saying his ideas were bullshit before being proved wrong.
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Watched the first three episodes last night and they are good, the last one was funny. I agree it is a shame it is just six episodes, will enjoy it while it lasts.
May have to pull out the original box set and watch that.
Can't believe Cancer Man is still alive! :corn
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It's not just the case with X-Files but I think most shows where the seasons are up to (or over) 20 episodes. You just can't keep consistency as easily compared to a show with maybe half the episodes in a season. X-Files also went out and really tried to do creative things with its concept, and for every idea that didn't quite work, like Mulder and Scully going into a virtual game (First Person Shooter in S7) you got those really spectacular episodes like Mulder on a ship stuck in the '40s with Nazis invading (Triangle in S6) or the bank that keeps blowing up on a loop until the time loop is broken (Monday in S6).
There's some oddballs and some episodes that missed the mark, but there's also those really special episodes.
I totally agree. It just dawned on me just how many episodes there are in a season. Over 20 is incredible and for a few duds to be in there, its totally reasonable. For the most part, they are pretty damn good, so I am very impressed that they are able to keep the quality up over that great of a quantity.
And Honestly, even some of the korny episodes have value in being so bad they are good, so I really have fallen in love with this series.
And I can't help but laugh in that Scully is this nice, down to earth girl who doens't cause trouble and moulder gets her wrapped up in the most fucked up and craziest of situations :lol
Its always like how the holy hell are they going to get out of this one
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I kinda liked it that by the time we got to S8 and S9, Scully was the believer and Doggett was the skeptic. It was nice with that little change.
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Count me as one of the X-Files fans who was very confused at the pilot episode and a bit disappointed that it seemed to shoe horn the X-Files and Mulder and Scully when it wouldn't made the least bit sense. Also for a 6 episode series, the series is very little myth and mostly monster of the week. The last episode with trash man was good but the good part with Dana didn't work well next to the main plot. It's a perfect example of the B-story overshadowing the A story. Excellent B story with a weak A story. The next episode doesn't appear to be part of the myth either so I'm a bit confused with the point of going 6 episodes with very little myth. Granted I am enjoying myself with these new shows but feel they could have tightened things up a bit more.
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Count me as one of the X-Files fans who was very confused at the pilot episode and a bit disappointed that it seemed to shoe horn the X-Files and Mulder and Scully when it wouldn't made the least bit sense. Also for a 6 episode series, the series is very little myth and mostly monster of the week. The last episode with trash man was good but the good part with Dana didn't work well next to the main plot. It's a perfect example of the B-story overshadowing the A story. Excellent B story with a weak A story. The next episode doesn't appear to be part of the myth either so I'm a bit confused with the point of going 6 episodes with very little myth. Granted I am enjoying myself with these new shows but feel they could have tightened things up a bit more.
I find it pretty strange, too. After the first two episodes I wasn't expecting much "monster of the week" at all.
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If next week is monster of the week also, that puts it at half of the episodes being MotW? I've definitely wanted more Mytharc episodes than MotW, so this is kind of a letdown. You'd think if it is a 6 episode mini-series, it would have come back on for a reason more than just throwing out random stories.
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If next week is monster of the week also, that puts it at half of the episodes being MotW? I've definitely wanted more Mytharc episodes than MotW, so this is kind of a letdown. You'd think if it is a 6 episode mini-series, it would have come back on for a reason more than just throwing out random stories.
Actually only the first and last episodes are mytharc, so 4 motw episodes.
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It is strange because I enjoy the MotW episodes. But I've always loved dramas / sci-fi that center strongly on a continuous theme. Where almost every episode matters and missing one could quickly leave you missing an important detail.
I guess the 2nd one was a MotW as well. They are peppering in a lot of Scully's thoughts on their child given up for adoption, so that feels like as strong (or stronger) a mytharc theme as the whole 1st episode aliens or govt. lies and propaganda or a mixture of both.
I'd re-familiarize myself with past episodes by rewatching seasons 1 to 9 (and the movies), but that brings me back to the whole MotW problem. They are good the first time around, but feel like an unnecessary waste of time the 2nd time around. But you are always worried there might be 30 to 120 seconds of mytharc buried in those episodes.
I'm sure I've forgotten half of the mytharc details.
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Overall I like the mytharc-episodes the most, but some of the motw-episodes have been among the best, and they do provide a nice little break in between the more "heavy" episodes.
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Not loving this season. And nobody wants to relive the X-Files fun more than me. It wouldn't have taken much for me to let nostalgia mask any shortcomings. I'm the proverbial fish in a barrel X-files fan of the 90s.
It had some moments, but overall it just hasn't been working for me. Perhaps the finale will win me back, but it seems unlikely at this point.
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Episode 3 is the only one I've loved, and I would even say it's up there with some of the classics. The rest has been good-not-amazing basically. If they make another season I would love to see more focus on the mytharc, see the return of Krycek, Doggett (in one episode as a guest or something) and the return of black oil. But it's all about the writing and I'm not sure if they have any great stories left to tell.
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The were-human episode definitely was the most enjoyable for me as well. Almost completely because of the were-humans performance.
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Babylon was good, way better than the previous one with the hobos golem and Scully's unresolved mother situation. To have "younger Mulder and Scully" worked very fine, one would have thought it a very poor gimmick but it was good!
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Other than the Cigarette Smoking Man, what a clunker of a finale. I felt like I was watching the old Bob Newhart show, and should have taken a drink every time Scully said 'Agent Einstein' (I think it was 10x). They had to choose such a cheesy name?
Surprised to say that the were-human episode was by far the best. There was no reason for last week's episode, other than introducing the clones or 'X-Files: Next Generation' cast members.
Last week was just a 'terrorist' crime cell show, tonight seemed anti-vaxxer and 'beware of microwaves'. Near the end of the show, Scully and Agent Einstein <DRINK!> are discussing solutions. I felt like I was watching ST:TNG, where Geordi and Data go on for five techno babbling, just boring as all eff minutes.
Very disappointing.
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I am in the middle of season 5. Still love it. Just to change things up, I decided to watch one of the new season episodes. I appreciate the attempt, but the magic just isn't there. and moulder is OLD...
Oh well, still glad they tried.
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I don't know what to think after seeing all 6 new episodes. I want to like it, but can't. But I can't hate it either. In fact, checking for a review after watching the finale, I came across a review that said Chris Carter must go. Just like Lucas/Star Wars, Stan Lee/Marvel.
Didn't really have a big problem with the anti-vaxxer / climate change / population control themes. I recall the old episodes playing off conspiracy theories and more extreme current events. Heck, the whole thing is fiction and not meant to be taken as validation/rejection of these things. Just tying in unexplained events with familiar themes to give it some grounding, but not enough to take away the "x".
The big problem was trying to squeeze the mytharc for an entire season into 2 episodes. If they continue, they really should consider a 10-12 mytharc only season. As long as the plot has some of the old magic, it would probably go down as the best season of the series.
and moulder is OLD...
I know right. He was protecting his lawn the entire season.
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Yeah, I don't think this new season was particularly good, but I certainly didn't hate it either. It was watchable. I do think it would've been much better with more of a mytharc focus, but at a slower pace, rather than jamming a ton of it into two episodes.
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I didn't mind the final episode, but damnit only 6 episodes after a decade of absence and they end on a damn cliffhanger????
They were dicks in the '90s and they are still dicks now.
Anyway, that's the charm of the X Files, I thought the story was actually kinda moving forward for X Files standards, it was very clear what was happening and with some bumps along the road Scully came to the right conclusion... and then of course they have to cliffhanger us, grrrrr! >:(
I find very weird how Monica introduced herself. "I'm one who was there for you when you needed help". FFS you've been working together, you were coworkers, just tell it's you!!! "Hi, I'm Monica, remember me?" They were partners and she delivered her damn child, she shouldn't even need to get told the surname.
Also, screw Dogget I guess, he was the only one left out completely.
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I forgot my biggest complaint about the mytharc episodes. Joel McHale. I just don't care for that guy at all.
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I forgot my biggest complaint about the mytharc episodes. Joel McHale. I just don't care for that guy at all.
I did think he was a strange choice, as I don't think most people can take him seriously.
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I forgot my biggest complaint about the mytharc episodes. Joel McHale. I just don't care for that guy at all.
I did think he was a strange choice, as I don't think most people can take him seriously.
Considering what he was playing, a conspiracy theorist, some could argue that makes him perfect for the role. But that's why I don't care for him. He's one of those people I just don't like (as a character). There's just something about him that make me immediately think "ugh" the minute he shows up in something I am watching.
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I forgot my biggest complaint about the mytharc episodes. Joel McHale. I just don't care for that guy at all.
Absolutely. I cringed every scene he was in.
The only episode I thoroughly enjoyed was 2. It was real, classic, season 2-level X-Files.
Obviously 3 was funny and worked just as well as the other parodic X-Files eps from the past, but that's not why I watch the show. It was very successful for a lot of people who do, from what I read.
Two of the six? Low success ratio. I am officially non-optimistic about anything new now. Especially this Origins series coming up with "baby Mulder and Scully." Cheesiest possible scenario. Use Doggett and Reyes or choose two great actors for totally new investigators, not an exact, parodic rehash.
This is about the only time I'd accept a scene with Mulder waking up and this 6-episode run being a dream. ::)
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This is about the only time I'd accept a scene with Mulder waking up and this 6-episode run being a dream. ::)
LOL. X-Files meets Roseanne
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I watched the first movie last night.
Meh. All the pieces were there, but It didn't really do it for me. I honestly find the 2 parter episodes way more engaging and suspenseful. But hey, any x files is better than no x files as far as I'm concerned.
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I didn't watch the last seasons, but enjoyed a lot x-files for some years !
This year's season is a NO for me, I can't say the magic is gone, but it felt weak to me, like the next one can only be better :s
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In my quest to watch the whole series for the first time I have made it almost to the end of Season 7, and man oh man has this thing gone off the rails.
Like I just got the episode where Mulder meets a magic genie and gets 3 wishes, lol. Its just gotten too crazy, straying so far from even barely being plausible, but I'm still enjoying it non the less. Still better than most things out there.
2 old seasons left to go
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In my quest to watch the whole series for the first time I have made it almost to the end of Season 7, and man oh man has this thing gone off the rails.
Like I just got the episode where Mulder meets a magic genie and gets 3 wishes, lol. Its just gotten too crazy, straying so far from even barely being plausible, but I'm still enjoying it non the less. Still better than most things out there.
2 old seasons left to go
Just wait till you get to First Person Shooter. :lol
Season 7 is definitely one of the weaker seasons. No doubt about it. There're some good episodes hidden in the season but also lots of dross and mediocrity.
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While people overall say the show declines after S5, I'd say both S6 and S8 are among my favorite seasons.
S6 has wonderful episodes like Triangle (Mulder on a ship stuck in the 40s with Nazi-Cigarette Smoking Man and all that entails), Monday (a bank heist keeps repeating itself over and over until the loop is closed), Arcadia (Mulder and Scully going undercover to infiltrate a small community), the wonderful Dreamland episodes (where Mulder changes bodies with a guy working at Area 51), The Unnatural (an alien infiltrating earth just to play baseball) and Drive (with an always great Bryan Cranston). There are some lowpoints like Agua Mala (Hurricane and something in the water) and Alpha (a ferocious dog that kills people), but overall I think it's a really good season with some of the best MotW-episodes and some very solid mytharc-episodes.
S8 introduced Doggett, and I know people didn't like Mulder leaving, but in S8's defense, Mulder still shows up for 12 out of 21 episodes, which is still more than half. To me, the introduction of Doggett was very well done. The first few mytharc-episodes of the season (Within/Without) were very good and really opened the season in a strong way. The mytharc in S8 was overall one of my favorite parts, with the mysterious super soldiers starting to appear. I think they were a great threat in S8, they just revealed too much, and/or took them down a different road in S9 which made S9 worse. If we look at the MotW-episodes, S8 has gems like Roadrunners (A weird cult out in the desert uses a kind of slug parasite to take over people), Redrum (a friend of Doggett is a convicted Murderer who experiences his last week in life progressing backwards as he tries to clear himself of a murder he did not commit), Via Negativa (a cult leader goes on a murderous rampage) and Badlaa (a mystic from India kills people in the most unpleasant way). Overall I think the mytharc is the highpoint of S8 though. Vienen is a wonderful episode that brings back the feeling of X-Files season 3/4 with the return of the black oil, and is one of the rare episodes where we get to see Mulder and Doggett work side by side. There are some lowpoints though, Salvage (where a guy turns into a robot basically) sticks out.
S7 and S9 are definitely much weaker. There are some gems in both of them, but they are much fewer, and overall they were harder to sit through. But for the sake of finishing this post strong, my favorites from each of them were:
S7: Hungry (An episode shown from the killer's point of view), Closure (Mulder finally gets closure on what happened with his sister), X-Cops (a shape-shifting enemy strikes terror in a neighborhood in an episode filmed like an episode of Cops), Requiem (a nice season-closer that has some classic mytharc-stuff and felt like a good resolution on the Mulder-era)
S9: John Doe (Doggett is in Mexico with no memory of who he is or how he got there), Audrey Pauley (Reyes goes into a coma and wakes up in a weird dream-world, while getting care at a hospital where something bad is going on), Scary Monsters (A young boy is terrorized by monsters at night), Release (Doggett finally gets some closure on what happened with his son), William (A mysterious character that we might now shows up). And while The Truth wasn't the best season ender that we all hoped it would be, I still enjoyed seeing a lot of faces again that we hadn't seen for a while.
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Completely agree with your appreciation for Season 8. The absence of Mulder was very intense, Duchovny's departure was written very well into the show. It was Mulder missing and Scully dealing with his abduction and a partner he didn't like / trust (at first), it was not "D'uh guys the lead went away, please enjoy this new character" written all over the show. Episodes were mostly good (and yeah the indian mystic was creepy as f@ùk) and when Mulder returned, the mythology produced one high tension episode after the other until the satisfying ending. Frankly they could have ended the show just there.
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I have to admit, Doggett was a hard sale for me.
Speaking for myself, I'm recalling how I got hooked on the X-Files in the first place. The stars aligned. UFO stuff on TV was at an all time high. Not only were we talking about faked footage of an alien autopsy, the reports of mysterious lights seemed to be off the charts. These were not *internet* days where everything spreads like wildfire. So if it was a phenomenon, it had to work hard to become so.
At the same time, there were TV shows that were doing dramatic re-enactments of encounter/abduction *true* stories. Not like a documentary, but acting out what happened for a whole TV show each week.
I wasn't even aware of any X-Files hype. At the parents house visiting (and more importantly, doing some laundry). This meant TV time between laundry loads. Turned on X-Files after the opening credits had rolled. Figured it was one of those re-enactment dramatizations frequenting the airwaves. By the time I figured out it wasn't, I was already hooked.
If all those things hadn't aligned, I'm not sure I would have been so heavily into the X-Files. None of my friends were. They rolled their eyes when I asked if they wanted to watch. Talked a friend into seeing the X-Files movie a few years later. Leaving the theater, I was loving what I saw. My friend gave a very weak "Eh. I get to pick the movie next time."
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Completely agree with your appreciation for Season 8. The absence of Mulder was very intense, Duchovny's departure was written very well into the show. It was Mulder missing and Scully dealing with his abduction and a partner he didn't like / trust (at first), it was not "D'uh guys the lead went away, please enjoy this new character" written all over the show. Episodes were mostly good (and yeah the indian mystic was creepy as f@ùk) and when Mulder returned, the mythology produced one high tension episode after the other until the satisfying ending. Frankly they could have ended the show just there.
This is exactly how I feel! Instead of doing what a lot of other shows do, where a main character disappears and a new one comes in, and they just move on with new stories, X-Files managed to incorporate it so well with their own story already going on. We had 7 seasons where we grew to appreciate Mulder and like him as a character, so when he disappeared, we were more invested and it made those episodes more interesting. I think if you look at the overall mytharc, S8 almost should have been the end, because of the way it built to a climax with Mulder eventually returning. S9 was a disappointment in comparison because by the time S9 came out, many of the storylines from S8 had been wrapped up, Mulder was out, Scully was barely involved and it became "new other stories with new characters", something S8 avoided.
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So I just finished all episodes of the entire series. It was one hell of a journey.
Season 7 got goofy, but Season 8 brought everything back to that serious, clever, suspenseful roots and I loved it. Season 9 was ok, but Agent monica didn't do it for me. Robert Patrick was excellent and I really enjoyed his work on the show. Overall, I loved the x files and it very well could be my favorite show ever.
And then there's season 10...
Yeah I am happy to have more x files, but they fell right back into the trap that put the original series off the rails, the goofyness and not taking things seriously. Mulder tripping balls, monster turning into a human and ranting about humans. Yeah, its entertaining, but very silly. I wish they would have gotten back to what took the x files from being a good show to being a legendary show and that's the super deep, highly suspenseful, and a little bit scary, well written episodes.
also agent Einstein and miller were unneeded and unwanted
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Starting this show with my friend. Other than a few episodes I've caught on tv over the years, this is my first watch of the show. On episode 5 now, this should be a long but fun journey.
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On Season 2, Episode 7 now. I love this show. :tup
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I'm also watching this for the first time, I have only watched some episodes before. Now I'm the middle of season 2.
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I loved watching it through for that first time. It was so damn good, I think I might go through all of them once again.
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Going through it pretty quickly with my girlfriend. We are on Season 3 Episode 16
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Just finished season 3 the other day and we are still loving it. I do think my favorite season thus far is 2.
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Such a great show! Will revisit it at some point. Against popular opinion I probably liked s6 and s8 the most.
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so.....anyone have a reaction to the newest episode?
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Haven't followed this thread at all because I haven't seen S10 or the new one but i'm feeling an urge now. Been so long since i've seen the show, can I just jump in or should I rewatch something?
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Haven't followed this thread at all because I haven't seen S10 or the new one but i'm feeling an urge now. Been so long since i've seen the show, can I just jump in or should I rewatch something?
watch the first and last episode of season 10 is you want the main story arc before you begin the new season.
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so.....anyone have a reaction to the newest episode?
I enjoyed it for it's entertainment value. I get how people are upset that it's altering the mythology of the show, but I'm just going to sit back and see where the story goes.
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When I was going through the whole show (s1-s9), the main story episodes were always the ones I looked forward to the most because I was fascinated where they would go next, and they always felt big in scale. Kinda how today, people say that Tv-shows are like movies, that's how those mytharc episodes of X-Files used to feel. Bigger in scope, the stakes were higher and they usually left you on that "what?!" feeling. Don't get me wrong, the monster of the week episodes could be great too (in some cases some of the best episodes), but that was usually a case-by-case scenario where you might get something really interesting and unique for the show (Home, Bad Blood, The Post-Modern Prometheus, Pusher) OR you get something that is almost laughably bad (First Person Shooter, Fight Club, Teso Dos Bichos) so it was more of a mixed bag, whereas the mytharc episodes (at least going into them) were usually more interesting since they drove the overall plot forward.
Now with s10 and s11 it's become a joke. The mytharc episodes are so bad and so contrived, rather than make something new and interesting it just feels like they're pulling a "forget about all of this that happened, now it's like this instead..." on us. I did appreciate seeing Jeffrey Spender again, a bit of a personal favorite from the old days. As little sense as it would make, would be fun if we got to see Krycek again, definitely one of the best characters on the show.
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So, am I alone in thinking Duchovny made the worst move in his career in wanting to leave X-Files?
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So, am I alone in thinking Duchovny made the worst move in his career in wanting to leave X-Files?
He had a decent run with Californication but otherwise, yeah probably.
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Working my way through Season 6, loved the Freaky Friday-esque episode. Not a big fan of this Kirsch guy. Somebody please tell me I don't have to endure the whole season with him. Either that, or hopefully he gets that giant stick out of his ass
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So, I don't know if I'm the only one who's noticed this, but during a few selected episodes in the theme song, when Gillian's name appears, there's a moment when the bass drops. Are these indicative of a main storyline episode?
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So, I don't know if I'm the only one who's noticed this, but during a few selected episodes in the theme song, when Gillian's name appears, there's a moment when the bass drops. Are these indicative of a main storyline episode?
I haven't noticed that, I'm going to check that out. It could be that.
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I'm only two episodes in for Season 11, started watching yesterday, and I probably should just go on watching, but, quick question... is there a reason (maybe it's explained in later episodes) why season 10 ended on a bigass cliffhanger with the world in an epidemic panic AND Mulder dying AND a spacecraft hovering about Mulder and Scully and season 11 begins like it literally never happened?? season 10 ends with the scenario above, Mulder is sick and a spacecraft appears, and the first scene of the following episode is Scully having a seizure and Mulder is doing fine? the hell??
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Scully was having a vision.. or something.
Can't remember if it was ever explained further..
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I looked up on Wikipedia: it was indeed a vision.
Whoah. Seriously? they played the "it was only a dream" card to chicken out of a cliffhanger that involved a game changing situation? meh!!!
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Don't worry about it. "My Struggle IV" will make you forget all about the problems with II and III.
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Hopefully!
I'm only two episodes away from that actually. They kinda like by now doing wacky episodes, mh? the "Forehead sweat" one and the Black Mirror homage / ripoff / satirical tribute. Still, the telepatic siblings playing hangman and ESPECIALLY the witch episode were great. Also Ghouli wasn't bad, finally we got to see the most anticipated character of the season.