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Title: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Sacul on November 18, 2014, 09:38:57 AM
After some months of waiting and playing some roulettes, it's finally my turn to make you suffer try this.

A bit on my taste of music. After some months wondering, I've reached to the conclusion that I like my music to be unique (nothing I've heard billions of times), smart (made by talented musicians) and either beautiful or badass. You can see now what all my album on my top 50 list (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42036.0) have really different moods, atmospheres and overall, they're really different one of each other.

I like *almost* everything. And by almost I mean a) I try to expand my tastes all the time, b) there are so many genres I've never heard and c) I'm not a fan of thrash, speed, power and cheesy prog metal, nor 70's prog rock (although there are some exceptions) nor radio pop music (either modern of 80's). And another thing. I have no problems with old music, while it's good, but there is a problem (at least for me) with this kind of music: vocal lines. They're dreadful or senseless, and I don't feel like singing along them. This also applies to a lot of genres, specially the metal subgenres I mentioned.

My take on harsh vocals: I'm not a big fan of the cookie monster thing, although I'm getting used to it, and I like it when it's well done, like in Opeth. But there are some kind of them, like in BTBAM that are too throat-y and aren't my thing. But I've grown to like harsh vocals and some screams thanks to Devin Townsend and his amazing voice/technique, so don't fear to send me stuff like that.

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And finally, I'd prefer if you send me Spotify links. Please, avoid Youtube vids because I'm using a netbook to listen to new music and YT works horrible. You can send me mp3 files though. MEGA will be fine. In case of emergency, just tell me the song and band name.

Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
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5inapsi5
Anathema
Angra
Antonio Vivaldi
Aphrodite's Child
Ayreon
Between the Buried and Me
Beyond the Bridge
Blackfield
Boris
Brian Eno
Burial
Camel (just heard the Snow Goose re-recording)
Casualties of Cool
David Maxim Micic
Dead Can Dance
Destiny Potato
Devin Townsend/Band/Project
Diablo Swing Orchestra
DJ shadow
Dream Theatre
Flying Colors
Focus
Green Carnation
GYBE!
Haken
Hammock
Infected Mushroom
J.S. Bach
James LaBrie/Mullmuzzler
Jean Michael Jarre
Jethro Tull
Jordan Rudess
Kashiwa Daisuke
King Crimson
Kyle Gabler
Liquid Tension Experiment
Little Richard
Mr. Bungle
Muse
Nightwish
Nils Frahm
Obsidian Kingdom
Opeth
Orphaned Land (just know All is One)
Pink Floyd (just know about their big 4 albums, you can send from another records)
Porcupine Tree
Queensryche
Radiohead
Ricardo Villalobos
Riverside
Ruined Machines
Saviour Machine
Sigur Rós
Solstafir
Stars of the Lid
Steven Wilson
Strapping Young Lad
Subterranean Masquerade
Symphony X
Throne of Chaos
Ulver

Danger Zone (aka bands I've heard a few things but weren't my cup of tea)
Agalloch
Circus Maximus
Death
Elvis Presley
Genesis
IQ
John Coltrane
Led Zeppelin (just their first 4 albums)
Mastodon
Meshuggah
Periphery
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Tool (familiar with Lateralus)
Voivod

Forbidden Zone (aka bands I don't like at all - don't dare to send crap like this)
Animals as Leaders
Earth
Fates Warning
Genesis
Spatic Ink
Watchtower
Yes

Will rate your songs in a normal 1-10 scale, and there will be, by now, 8 rounds. Each song will be listened at least two times, more if needed. If you send a grower, please note it. It won't affect the note if I didn't like it at first but ended up loving it, thus be careful with growers.

Rounds and themes (may add or cut some if necessary)
1- Open Round (test yourself and my tastes)
2- Catchy catchy (a really catchy (duh) song or riff or chorus or whatever gets stuck in my mind)
3- SW would cry (make me cry too - just the saddest most depressing song you can imagine)
4- Life is beautiful, isn't it? (and so are the songs on this round)
5- Darkness (I'm sucker for this kind of stuff)
6- Music for Airports (google it and you'll know what is this about)
7- Epicness (doesn't need explanation, I think)
8- Open Round - Reprise (last chance to gather points)

Special points
At the end of this, the one with more points by their song scores may not win the game, but who gathers enough roulette and special points. These will be counted and granted during the game for each round. Here are:
These points can be accumulative, it means, one song can enter several of this categories and earn more than one of this special points. And several persons can earn them at the same time. You can use them in every round. Using the last two points is risky, since you may end up with a low score or it might pay off and earn you lots of points.

To-Listen list
I have lots of albums on the list, like 300+ or so. Thus, I've compiled most of them on some collages. Here they are:
Part 1 (http://oi58.tinypic.com/2uqnp0y.jpg)
Part 2 (http://oi62.tinypic.com/35mp0nk.jpg)
Part 3 (http://i60.tinypic.com/2u6da34.jpg)
Part 4 (http://i60.tinypic.com/a14zeo.jpg)

Participants
1- Nekov
2- Elite
3- mikemangioy
4- Evermind
5- jingle.boy
6- Tom Bombadil
7- Shadow Ninja 2.0
8- Lucien
9- Scorpion
10- Tyrias

Edit: I've cleared some rules regarding the special points and how they work. Please check them. Sorry for all the inconveniences.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 8 spots left!
Post by: Nekov on November 18, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
I'm so in
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 8 spots left!
Post by: Elite on November 18, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
In to beat Mr. Vodka.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 8 spots left!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 18, 2014, 09:55:23 AM
I'm in :D
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 5 spots left!
Post by: Evermind on November 18, 2014, 10:07:28 AM
You were the guy with Wait For Sleep in the bottom five DT songs list, weren't you?  :biggrin:

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I'm not a fan of thrash, speed, power and cheesy prog metal

Oh well. No eliminations though, right? I'm in.  :lol

Oh, also, no Spotify links from me because it's not available in my country. So please either specify what file hosting would be preferrable for you for sending mp3 files, or give the e-mail to send them.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 5 spots left!
Post by: Sacul on November 18, 2014, 10:17:44 AM
MEGA will be fine.

PS: Might consider adding elimination rounds. Just for you :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Elite on November 18, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
I like almost everything.

Followed by a lot of stuff you don't like. This shall be interesting :)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
I'll be your huckleberry

:huckleberry:

c) I'm not a fan of thrash, speed, power and cheesy prog metal
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Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
Angra
Symphony X


Does not compute??
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Evermind on November 18, 2014, 11:12:47 AM
c) I'm not a fan of thrash, speed, power and cheesy prog metal
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Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
Angra
Symphony X


Does not compute??

Well, considering "Song from genre I don't like, but ended liking what you sent anyways (5 points)" maybe it's worth to send him power metal in every round. Gonna think about it. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 18, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
I'll give this a shot
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 18, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
Eh, semester's almost over, I'll join this thing I guess.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Lucien on November 18, 2014, 12:37:05 PM
I'll join.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Sacul on November 18, 2014, 12:48:18 PM
c) I'm not a fan of thrash, speed, power and cheesy prog metal
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Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
Angra
Symphony X


Does not compute??
From all the speed, power and cheesy prog metal I've heard, those are the only bands I've liked. And just that, I'm not a big fan or something. They wouldn't make my top 50 if I did a v2. And they're not cheesy. Not so much.

Well, considering "Song from genre I don't like, but ended liking what you sent anyways (5 points)" maybe it's worth to send him power metal in every round. Gonna think about it. :neverusethis:
There are some exceptions, but very few. It's a risky move to send songs form those genres, because if I disliked them you would get just a few points. But if they turn out to be great, you may score a 8 or 9, and get 5 additional points in the end.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Sacul on November 18, 2014, 12:52:54 PM
I feel optimistic about this, so now there are two more free spots now.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 2 spots left!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 18, 2014, 12:55:16 PM
ok sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 01:30:04 PM
And they're not cheesy. Not so much.

there's a reason that this is the 'symphonyx' emot - :symphonyx:

Also, you fial:

Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
Dream Theatre

Lastly... if memory serves me correctly, you're a teenager, correct?
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 2 more spots left!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 18, 2014, 01:37:50 PM
s-s-sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 2 more spots left!
Post by: Nekov on November 18, 2014, 01:38:25 PM
Sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 4 spots left!
Post by: Sacul on November 18, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
Also, you fial:

Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
Dream Theatre

Lastly... if memory serves me correctly, you're a teenager, correct?
It was on purpose, to please the British users of this site. And I'm a young adult, jingle.guy :coolio .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 2 more spots left!
Post by: Lucien on November 18, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
Sent.  :tup
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 2 more spots left!
Post by: Elite on November 18, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
Also, you fial:

Banned artists (aka bands I love/like at least)
Dream Theatre

Lastly... if memory serves me correctly, you're a teenager, correct?
It was on purpose, to please the British users of this site. And I'm a young adult, jingle.guy :coolio .

Why, thank you. You shouldn't have.

Sending tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! 2 more spots left!
Post by: Scorpion on November 18, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
Shit, let's do this.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Join now! Just 1 spot left!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 05:25:35 PM
You're in luck that Spotify just officially launched in Canada a few weeks back.  Sending shortly.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One - Join now! Just 1 spot left!
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
I've decided on what to send but found out I only have a CD, no digital files, so I'll send tomorrow.  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One - Join now! Just 1 spot left!
Post by: Sacul on November 19, 2014, 02:39:03 PM
I've decided on what to send but found out I only have a CD, no digital files, so I'll send tomorrow.  :lol
It must be some pretty obscure stuff, huh? You can just send me the name of the song and I'll look for it.

By the way, I've heard all your submissions at least twice - good stuff guys. I'm just missing on Elite and Tom Bombadil. No hurry, just letting you know. Although, if I get your submissions by the end of the day, results will be ready for Friday. There's still one free spot guys, so call your friends and let them know - they won't want to miss this opportunity.

PS: I've updated the OP with the first part of my to-listen list and another details and info.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One - There's space for one more!
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
Nah, just some concept album you've probably heard of. I've never bothered to rip it because I usually listen to it at home in evening.

In fact, I'm sending shortly, decided not to be lazy here.  :lol

Edit: sent!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One - There's space for one more!
Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 19, 2014, 09:20:19 PM
Sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One - There's space for one more!
Post by: Tyrias on November 20, 2014, 03:52:47 AM
So, if the spot's still open I'd like to play as well  :D .
Will send right now, jst ignore it if I'm late.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One (missing: Elite)
Post by: Sacul on November 20, 2014, 07:50:23 AM
No problem Tyrias, you're in. I've already listened to all the songs at least twice, and some require a few more spins (*coff* Lucien *coff*) because of their, eh, growing nature. I'm just missing Elite, so if he sends by the end of the day, results will be up tomorrow evening. There's no hurry, I still have to give everything a last listen before ranking them though.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One (missing: Elite)
Post by: Lucien on November 20, 2014, 01:14:22 PM
No problem Tyrias, you're in. I've already listened to all the songs at least twice, and some require a few more spins (*coff* Lucien *coff*) because of their, eh, growing nature. I'm just missing Elite, so if he sends by the end of the day, results will be up tomorrow evening. There's no hurry, I still have to give everything a last listen before ranking them though.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One (missing: Elite)
Post by: Elite on November 22, 2014, 02:04:33 AM
Thanks for the massive shaming in the thread title :lol
I honestly forgot, sending now!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round One (missing: Elite)
Post by: Sacul on November 22, 2014, 06:12:06 AM
Thanks for the massive shaming in the thread title :lol
It's a punish I will apply just when it's needed :police: . Ok guys, everybody's in, and almost all your songs have been ranked. Thus, expect results this evening, around 10 PM GMT -3. Or if you're in Europe/Asia, tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round One...
Post by: Sacul on November 22, 2014, 04:27:51 PM
Autumn Moonlight - Ghost (Nekov)
Oh, proggy post-rock from my country? Interesting. The beginning felt a bit cheesy (in post-rock terms I mean) but it then evolves into a beautiful piece. I love the atmosphere these guys make and the originality of their approach. The heavy sections is great, and the final crescendo works well. Sadly, the song ends too soon for my tastes. But it'a a gorgeous song anyways. I might buy the album to support them. 8.5/10.

Destrage - Smell You Later Fishy (Mikemangioy)

Definitely the most brutal song of the round. And I didn't expect you to send me such heavy stuff so soon. The brutality here is tremendous, although at times I think it's ironic, like a joke to extreme bands. The snare is like a machine gun, and the singer prefers to sing high and harsh rather than just turning into a cheesy demon. The calm sections were totally unexpected, and wonderful. This duality is well used throughout the song. And then a middle point appears around minute 2 or so. There is no such energy as before, but it's way more active that the calm sections. I love this part. Sadly, till the end it doesn't vary too much. Specially when the Cookie Monster finally appears. This song is on the limit between what I dislike and what not. But hey, I ended up enjoying it anyways. 7/10

Assemblage 23  - The Cruelest Year (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
I have a weakness for well-made pop songs (see Blackfield, Flying Colors, Destiny Potato, DT's Addicted, etc.) and you hit exactly that spot. I love the dreamy atmosphere of this tune, and those sexy synths. It's emotional without being cheesy (yay!) so props for that. The introduction and the synth's riff are amazing, and it gets better from there. Even the ending is great. My only complaint it's that the vocal lines could vary a bit more. I think this genre is called futurepop, right? Never heard of it, so you win the 3 points for that. I'll definitely check this artist. 9.5/10

Peter Tchaikovsky - Symphony 5, Finale (Lucien)
Oh, classical music. I used to love the genre to death some years ago when I started taking piano lessons. I remember the hours in freezing rooms. My cruel ears and tiny hands, destroying timeless tunes. This song has some amazing epic parts, especially at the middle. Sadly, the songs changes from moods and ideas several times and I get lost frequently, making this hard to digest. It's not a bad song, but I prefer Bach or Beethoven when it comes to this genre. 6.5/10.

Pink Floyd - Sorrow (jingle.boy)

Cool, a Floyd song out of the big 4. The atmosphere is great, as always. I prefer the most straight-foward PF, and this song didn't do much for me. It's not bad - I came to appreciate it a bit more when I listened to it sleepy. It would have been better for the Music for Airports round though. 6/10

Sigh - Amnesia (Scorpion)
This was a risky move, Scorp. And a good one indeed. I added this album to my to-listen list just because of the wonderful cover art. It turned out the music is also great. I don't know which is my fav part - when the synths appear, or when so does the violin/sax/harmonica (?). The dark, French atmosphere is a win, definitely. I'm not sure of what to think of growls during calm sections. But whatever, I enjoyed this song. My only complaint is that the ending was awful, it just all disappears into ambient noise. Interesting song anyways. 7.5/10

Pain of Salvation - A Trace of Blood (Evermind)
Remedy Lane used to be on my mp3 long time ago. And then one day I deleted it, along with another albums. It never returned, because I got tired and it wasn't that awesome for me. So Evermind surprised me when he sent this. Such a risky move, dude. But it payed off.
I really liked this song after several spins. The chorus is cool, and so do the build-ups. The emotional impact and the guitar solo, almost entering the cheesy realm. But I still don't like Daniel's voice nor those ugly voice effects and breaths. Just by a small margin, you won a special point for sending a song from the only PoS album I kind of liked. 7/10.

ISIS - Backlit (Tom Bombadil)
Panopticon wasn't my cup of tea when I listened to it some months ago. Thus, I though, maybe this time a song from it would click on me. Sorry dude. the instrumental sections were really nice, post-rock-ish. Sadly, the growls don't convince me. Not because they're bad, but they aren't well used here IMO. The parts when the guitar takes the main role are the best. but just that. This song would have been way better if instrumental. Not my cup of tea, sorry. 5/10

Memento Mori - Kamelot (Tyrias)

Power metal? You guys love risk, don't you? Overall, this is a bipolar song. On one hand, it has an incredible middle section full of win and epic. But, the beginning and the end are awfully cheesy. They kind of remind me of Illumination's Theory last movement, but worse. At a first listen, I like the song much more. But with several spins, it hasn't retained my attention so much, and made me realize how awkward and random the beginning and ending are - because they're disconnected with the rest of the tune. Meh. 6/10.

Leprous - Forced Entry (Elite)
At first, I disliked this song. I had heard Coal some time ago, and it wasn't for me, nope. Thus, I was interested on this album, since some friends of mine have it among their top 10 albums of all time. About the song, in one word: chaotic. It's not the kind of chaos of DT' Deconstruction, but rather a mix of lots of things that make it difficult to digest, thus it took me several spins to appreciate this tune. I was even thinking about giving it a 4 and not giving it a last listening before ranking. So glad I didn't. It starts with a riff that heavily reminds me of Haken's Aquarius. Even some vocal harmonies are very similar of what you find on the British's debut. But it slowly gets better and better, reaching an epic moment around minute 9. I may listen to this album in the future, just to see how it is. But you earned some extra points for this entry. Congrats. 7/10

Special points
Scorpion, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Shadow Ninja, genre I was unaware of (Futurepop) (3 points)
Evermind, band I used to dislike (5 points)
Elite, band I didn't use to like (5 points)

Positions
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 12.5
Evermind - 12
Elite - 12
Scorpion - 9.5
Nekov - 8.5
mikemangioy - 7
Lucien - 6.5
jingle.boy - 6
Tyrias - 6
Tom Bombadil - 5

Round Two: Catchy Catchy
A song which's main appeal is a catchy (duh) riff, or a chorus, or a vocal line, or whatever that gets stuck in my head for all day long. I advise you to look into songs from albums on the to-listen list, specially if you have a low score. Remember, the special point will matter at the end of the game, when they'll be added to you general score. Thus, take advantage of them. A song from the list (2 points), which wins the theme (4 points) and it's from a genre I''ve never heard (3 points), might compensate of getting a 4 (thus earning you 9 special points). Think about it. You can send for next round now.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 22, 2014, 04:37:12 PM
Hey, cool that you liked Assemblage 23, though I'm not totally sure of the exact genre. Definitely check out more of their stuff if you liked that song, though. 

sent btw
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 22, 2014, 04:38:52 PM
It's 2:30 a.m. here, hardly counts as "tomorrow morning".  :)

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Just by a small margin, you won a special point for sending a song from the only PoS album I kind of liked.

Hell yeah.  :tup

So special points are added to my score basically? That means I'm sharing the second place with Elite for now? I'm alright with my 7+5 then.

Edit: your second and third link for to-listen list require some editing, apparently

Edit 2: your to-listen list has some of the albums I love, but I guess sending you something from, say, Holy Diver, will get me precisely 1 point for the song + 2 special points; so I think I'll pass on this opportunity.  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 22, 2014, 05:07:05 PM
So special points are added to my score basically? That means I'm sharing the second place with Elite for now? I'm alright with my 7+5 then.

Edit: your second and third link for to-listen list require some editing, apparently
Yeah, but will be recounted at the end, so keep track of them during the game. And thanks for pointing out, I hope the links are working now.

Edit:
Edit 2: your to-listen list has some of the albums I love, but I guess sending you something from, say, Holy Diver, will get me precisely 1 point for the song + 2 special points; so I think I'll pass on this opportunity.  :lol
Didn't you say you'd send power metal on each round? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Lucien on November 22, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tom Bombadil on November 22, 2014, 07:22:10 PM
Yeah that song is very hit and miss for people. I'll send later tonight. You'll like the next one more, trust me ;)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on November 22, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
They have 2 albums and you can get them pretty easy  :tup


Sent round 2, stole it from J.boy's playbook  ;D
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on November 23, 2014, 12:59:00 AM
I guess my song works better in the album context, I've never thought of beginning and end as being disjointed from the rest of the song :lol. Anyway, glad you liked the middle part and already sent for the next round!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Elite on November 23, 2014, 03:21:58 AM
Sent you a catchy song.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Scorpion on November 23, 2014, 04:59:14 AM
Aw yeah! About the ending: it's a concept album, so it makes a lot more sense in context. You should definitely have a listen to the whole thing, because while for me, Amnesia is the high point, the album as a whole is still ridiculously good.

Also, sent for next round. Thanks Shadow Ninja for introducing me to the band! :P
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2014, 06:26:06 AM
Sent round 2, stole it from J.boy's playbook  ;D

No problem with that.  Sending shortly ... bow bow bow
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 23, 2014, 06:38:05 AM
Aw yeah! About the ending: it's a concept album, so it makes a lot more sense in context. You should definitely have a listen to the whole thing, because while for me, Amnesia is the high point, the album as a whole is still ridiculously good.
Will give it a listen then - there are some parts that sounded bloody good.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 23, 2014, 07:55:49 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 23, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Also, sent for next round. Thanks Shadow Ninja for introducing me to the band! :P

damn, hope it wasn't one of the lousy ones
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 23, 2014, 01:12:20 PM
Didn't you say you'd send power metal on each round? :neverusethis:

I've never said this. I said something like "maybe it's worth to send you power metal every round", it's not that I'm actually gonna do that.

Just sent something; it's a bit weird maybe but I think it's just fine.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 23, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
Wow you're fast - all entries received. Will start listening right now. Expect results on Tuesday.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round One results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 24, 2014, 02:41:20 PM
After thinking it for a while, I've just updated the positions adding the special points to the results, to show accurately at which position you are - it just didn't make sense to count special points at the end. About your songs: good round in general, with some surprises (for the better and the worse). Whoever gets a 5, I'm terribly sorry :lol . Will post results tomorrow - just want to give all your songs a one last listen.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Two...
Post by: Evermind on November 24, 2014, 03:09:26 PM
Mine should definitely count as a surprise, I have a terrible suspicion it's for the worse though.  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Two...
Post by: Elite on November 24, 2014, 03:33:58 PM
Yeah, well. I sent a song with a short 'black metal'-ish part. I'll probably be punished as well.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Two...
Post by: Sacul on November 25, 2014, 09:17:10 AM
Fair To Midland  - vice/versa (Shadow Ninja)
I like the main riff of this thing. The calm sections are sweet, but not the great thing. The chorus is fucking great, and I love how the song flows between rock and metal. I really liked this tune, despite not having that much variety. But it's a great nonetheless. Good job dude. 8/10.

Frost* - Toys (Lucien)
This reminds me a bit of Radiohead/Muse. Not a bad thing though. I've heard of this band before. There are lots of things happening at the same time here, and it's all a bit confusing to follow. But the chorus is nice, although a bit unusual. I like the breakdown here, but the song is a bit lame, with too much of the same. 6.5/10

Star One - Cassandra Complex (Nekov)
I love Arjen's Ayreon albums, so I had high expectations on this. The starts great, with a powerful riff and I instantly notice how great the production is. But when I reach to the chorus, it lost me. Pure cheese. Arjen makes better vocal lines, that's for sure. The ones on this songs are just lame. He can do it better. The instrumental sections are kind of good, but that's all. This doesn't say me anything, sorry. 5.5/10

Umphrie's McGee - In the Kitchen (Tom Bombadil)
Oh, I love the vibe of this song. The vocal lines are ok. Not bad, but not the greatest thing ever. BUT. The instrumental sections are awesome. Definitely. There's a good chemistry between these guys, and it sounds like they're all having a great time while playing this. The chorus is really cool. 8/10

Guro Von Germeten - Fa Fa(Come Stand Before me) (Tyrias)
This is the weirdest song of the roulette. With that beginning, I really didn't expect it to be catchy. But damn this is good. I love the use of the accordion here. The singer has a gorgeous voice. Dat piano. Is that an oboe that appears at min 2? What a superb mix of violins and other unusual instruments. Cool stuff boy. I don't know what genre is this, since it mixes jazz, noir, a bit of pop. So you get the special points for that. 8.5/10

Voyager - White Shadow (Elite)
You guys seem to really like power metal, huh? Anyways, this song has some great parts, specially the beginning. It all flows great from there. Except that the chorus is quite awful :lol . But the rest is pretty awesome, specially the instrumental section of the middle. The intense part at 4.20 was quite interesting, and added some variety to the song. Cool anyways. 7.5/10

Nightingale - The One (Scorpion)
Oh dude, sorry :lol . I tried several times, but the only good thing about this tune are the synths. And they only appear here and there. The rest was pretty much cheesy. Too much. I felt tempted several times to skip it while listening it. This is just not for me. The best part? When it finished. 4/10

Blues Brothers - Rubber Biscuit (live) (jingle.boy)
This is definitely #2 when talking about weird songs. This is pretty catchy, mainly because I don't understand what the singer is saying. It is quite repetitive though. But too hilarious too. 6.5/10

Rush - Where is my thing? (mikemangioy)
I was surprised when you send me this Rush song. I don't know this album, but that's not surprise considering their huge discography. But the rurprising thing whas that you sent me an instrumental from a band I'm not keen on. You're lucky since I love Rush instrumentals, like YYZ and Villa Estrangiato. This has lots of lovely synths and a great atmosphere overall. This is probably my fav song of this round. And the catchiest. It stuck in my head after just 2 listens. I just wish the production was a bit better, but it's a great song. Such a risky move, but you earned two special points. Props dude. 9/10

Mark Knopfler - Privateering (Evermind)
I don't listen to these kind of country, mainly because I don't know artists from this genre. This song is quite good and catchy. The middle section when everything does more intense is damn awesome. I wish it had a bit more variety but it is damn great anyways. Finally somebody who liked this album/artist, it seems :lol . 8/10.

Theme Winner (4 points)
mikemangioy

Special points
mikemangioy, band I disliked (5 points) and theme winner (4 points)
Elite, genre I dislike (5 points)
Tyrias, genre I didn't know about (3 points)

Positions
mikemangioy - 25
Elite - 24.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 20.5
Evermind - 20
Tyrias - 17.5
Nekov - 14
Scorpion - 13.5
Lucien - 13
Tom Bombadil - 13
jingle.boy - 12.5

Round Three
Steven Wilson would cry


Send me the saddest, most depressing song you can imagine. Make me feel miserable, wanting to cry. Come on, I'll be waiting for them.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Two...
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2014, 09:25:01 AM
Finally somebody you like this album/artist, it seems  :lol

What?  :lol

Well anyway, 8 points is alright. I wish some of the opponents wouldn't do this well. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on November 25, 2014, 09:35:04 AM
 :(
Well, to each his own. I'll see what I can do for this round since I tend to listen to "Happy" music mostly
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
On the other hand, I know exactly what I'm sending this round. I'm just not sure Sacul will appreciate it, he doesn't seem to be a fan of songs from early 70s.  :rollin Well, who cares anyway.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 25, 2014, 10:00:53 AM
Yaaaay :D
you should check out the live version of WMF, there's a bass solo and a drum solo.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2014, 10:04:35 AM
you should check out the live version of WMF, there's a bass solo and a drum solo.

That's not the best advertising of a live song actually, I know there are few people on DTF who hate drumsolos and always skip them.  :lol Bass solo sounds cool though.

Sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2014, 10:06:03 AM
:(
Well, to each his own. I'll see what I can do for this round since I tend to listen to "Happy" music mostly

You should've used this round to poach from me  :P.  Too late.  I submitted already.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 25, 2014, 10:11:09 AM
Nightingale cheesy wat

sent btw
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on November 25, 2014, 10:13:58 AM
:(
Well, to each his own. I'll see what I can do for this round since I tend to listen to "Happy" music mostly

You should've used this round to poach from me  :P.  Too late.  I submitted already.

I know exactly what you sent and I've no doubt you'll win the round theme.

Also sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on November 25, 2014, 10:15:37 AM
Nightingale cheesy wat

sent btw

Maybe I can get the cheesy thing but saying that the synths are the best part of the song and not Dan's voice is simply crazy
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2014, 10:17:23 AM
:(
Well, to each his own. I'll see what I can do for this round since I tend to listen to "Happy" music mostly

You should've used this round to poach from me  :P.  Too late.  I submitted already.

I know exactly what you sent and I've no doubt you'll win the round theme.

Also sent

Think I know this song too. I've mentioned it in my, eh, friendly PM to Sacul. I'll be definitely banning it in my roulette. :lol Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Scorpion on November 25, 2014, 10:20:25 AM
Nightingale cheesy wat

sent btw

Maybe I can get the cheesy thing but saying that the synths are the best part of the song and not Dan's voice is simply crazy

Yeah, seriously.

Anyway, sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2014, 10:23:38 AM
So, let me see if I get this straight.  5 bonus points for a genre and/or band you don't like?  So, the song could've been a "2", and a + 5 bonus means it'll earn 7 points?  Combine the two, and it would score 12?

There's more points to be had in sending crappy tunes from genre's and bands you don't like, than there is in sending good music.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2014, 10:27:28 AM
So, let me see if I get this straight.  5 bonus points for a genre and/or band you don't like?  So, the song could've been a "2", and a + 5 bonus means it'll earn 7 points?  Combine the two, and it would score 12?

There's more points to be had in sending crappy tunes from genre's and bands you don't like, than there is in sending good music.

Nah, +5 bonus applies only if he liked the song enough. Tyrias sent Kamelot song and didn't get +5 for power metal, because it wasn't good enough. I guess you have to get 7+ points for the song alone to get the bonus.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 25, 2014, 11:34:57 AM
you should check out the live version of WMF, there's a bass solo and a drum solo.

That's not the best advertising of a live song actually, I know there are few people on DTF who hate drumsolos and always skip them.  :lol Bass solo sounds cool though.

But it's NEIL PEART'S drum solo.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on November 25, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
Glad that you liked Guro von Germeten! My parents convinced me to go to a concert in a very small venue with her, when none of us knew her. I'm so glad I went. ;D.
Anyway, sent for round 3. I hope your heart will ache.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 25, 2014, 03:07:49 PM
So, let me see if I get this straight.  5 bonus points for a genre and/or band you don't like?  So, the song could've been a "2", and a + 5 bonus means it'll earn 7 points?  Combine the two, and it would score 12?

There's more points to be had in sending crappy tunes from genre's and bands you don't like, than there is in sending good music.

Nah, +5 bonus applies only if he liked the song enough. Tyrias sent Kamelot song and didn't get +5 for power metal, because it wasn't good enough. I guess you have to get 7+ points for the song alone to get the bonus.
Exactly. This is just to avoid getting crappy power metal (but I'm sure you will still send it anyways). See, if I had liked enough the Isis song Tom sent for the first round, I would have given him the 5 extra points, since I dislike that band. So the purpose of this is that you have 2 options: send a song from another genre besides the ones I dislike or from a band I've never heard of before, trying to get a good mark (say, an 8) or, risking yourself with something that probably won't be my cup of tea. If it turns out to be good enough (like a 7), you will get extra points. But if not, you might just get a 5.

So tl;dr a risky choice may give you either few or lots of points. It's up to you. mikemangioy went with a ricky choice (Rush), but it turned out extremely well (theme winner, and extra points) plus the high note for the song.

Nightingale cheesy wat

sent btw

Maybe I can get the cheesy thing but saying that the synths are the best part of the song and not Dan's voice is simply crazy
Yeah, seriously.
Oh he has a great voice (forgot to mention that), and the band might not be entirely cheesy, but this particular song sure it was. Like they were trying something too emotional, but in a way I've seen overused lots of times. Compared to bands I feel express deep emotions through their music in a smart way (Anathema, SW/PT, even DT at times), this was pretty bad.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on November 25, 2014, 03:18:13 PM
Oh, I thought only the top entry in each category would get the bonus points at the end of the roulette? Me is confused ???
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 25, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
I realized I wasn't clear enough so I updated the OP - in the PM I sent you, I recommended you to check the OP as some info was added. If by category you mean round theme, no. It will go to whoever wins the theme of each round of the game. The extra point are valid for each round and song. Every tune may qualify for one or more extra points or not.

And some posts earlier I told you I decided to change a bit the system and directly add the special points to the current positions instead of accumulating them till the end. Which is quite the same, because you would have kept a record of all the extra points you won, thus it was more clear to just add them to the normal score. Sorry if it wasn't clear - this roulette may live up to it's name, it seems.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on November 25, 2014, 03:53:13 PM
So, let me see if I get this straight.  5 bonus points for a genre and/or band you don't like?  So, the song could've been a "2", and a + 5 bonus means it'll earn 7 points?  Combine the two, and it would score 12?

There's more points to be had in sending crappy tunes from genre's and bands you don't like, than there is in sending good music.

Nah, +5 bonus applies only if he liked the song enough. Tyrias sent Kamelot song and didn't get +5 for power metal, because it wasn't good enough. I guess you have to get 7+ points for the song alone to get the bonus.
Exactly. This is just to avoid getting crappy power metal (but I'm sure you will still send it anyways).

Hey man, that's not fair, I haven't sent any power metal yet.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 25, 2014, 04:08:50 PM
Sorry, damn the English language, I was just saying "you" to all the participants. In Spanish we have different words for that :coolio .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2014, 04:37:55 PM
I realized I wasn't clear enough so I updated the OP - in the PM I sent you, I recommended you to check the OP as some info was added.

It would help if you highlight (bold, "EDIT:", something...) what the new information is so we don't have to read thru the entire post, and try to disseminate what's new.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 25, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
Done. Sorry for all the misunderstandings, btw. Damn, I thought making a roulette with just a few special things would be easier :lol .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on November 26, 2014, 08:01:27 PM
I have received all entries with the exception of mikemangioy, Elite and Lucien. Just letting you know - I have been busy thus still couldn't start listening.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 27, 2014, 02:52:38 PM
Sehehehnt
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send! Missing: Elite & Lucien
Post by: Elite on November 28, 2014, 08:46:31 AM
Sent just now!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send! Missing: Elite & Lucien
Post by: Lucien on November 28, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Sent just now!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Two results! Send! Missing: Lucien
Post by: Sacul on November 28, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
Great, now everbody's in. Expect results on Monday evening.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Elite on November 29, 2014, 06:35:40 AM
Great, now everbody's in. Expect results on Monday evening.

I just figured out your username is 'Lucas' backwards. Do I get bonus points now?
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2014, 08:01:06 AM
Great, now everbody's in. Expect results on Monday evening.

I just figured out your username is 'Lucas' backwards. Do I get bonus points now?

No.  You lose points for never reading/retaining it in the first place in the 'meaning behind your username' thread(s)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Elite on December 01, 2014, 04:22:28 AM
I'm expecting results!  ;D
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Sacul on December 01, 2014, 06:30:28 AM
Expect results on Monday evening.
Unless you live in Japan or East Asia, it's still 10 AM in the morning here :censored . Just kidding - will post results in a few hours, just have to give everything a last listen, to be sure :biggrin: .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Elite on December 01, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
All right then :)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Sacul on December 01, 2014, 08:46:23 AM
Deep Purple - When a Blind Man Cries (Evermind)
I recall liking Machine Head by this band, and was surprised to get this tune. Actually, you sent me lots of old songs on this round. Back to the song. It's quite sad, really. I like the solo, it reminds me a bit of David Gilmour. The rest is a bit repetitive, with not so much variation. But I guess it's something normal with old songs. But I liked it. 6/10

Red House Painters - Katy Song  (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
What a great singer - I love that his voice sounds like it was recorded in an abandoned old chamber. The first half of this song has parts that remind me to John Lennon's Imagine, specially the guitars. Hopefully the second half has those gorgeous vocal harmonies and some great guitars or whatever going in crescendo till the end. Although it doesn't vary that much, I really liked it. 7.5/10

Led Zeppelin - That's the Way (Tom Bombadil)
This song is a bit more melancholic than sad, actually. But it still quite nice. The main riff is cool, but those guitars in the background are amazing. I liked this song, despite not having that much variety. And because the band wasn't my cup of tea, you gain the extra points, by a small margin. 7/10

Alter Bridge - Blackbird  (mikemangioy)
Oh yes this is one of my fav songs of the round. Everything here is damn awesome: the epic chorus, the heavy sections, the singer, and dat solo. My only complaint are the quiet parts, which aren't bad, but aren't as memorable as the rest. I think I listened to the band's debut some months ago, and kind of liked it, but never gave it a second listen. This is the less sad song of the round, and you were close to losing points for not sticking to the theme. But this tune has enough feelings and melancholy, so you were saved by a small margin. Beware for the future, guys. 9/10.

Gov't Mule - Forevermore (Elite)
Southern rock? Heard of the genre, but never listened to it. And the atmosphere of this song is awesome. It starts slow, but the middle section is great. I like the singer's voice and the guitar solo. This was really an interesting song. Great choice dude. 7.5/10

Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings (Lucien)
Classical music is kind of tricky for me. By one side, there are some composer who I absolutely love (Beethoven and Bach), and other that I can't get into (Mozart and Tchaikovsky). But man, I didn't expect this at all. Ok, I was expecting you to send me something in this vein, but forgot that classical music was still done in the past century and even nowadays. And I have to say: I loved this song. It's so emotive, so moving - it makes me wanna cry, without words, just beautiful music. I read this has been used in a lot of films and media, and I might recall listening to it somewhere, but it doesn't matter. I love how the songs goes from being fucking depressed to look for some light, reaching a superb climax. Just to return to the sadness. Amazing. My fav of this round. 9.5/10

Kevin Gilbert - Song for a Dead Friend (jingle.boy and Scorpion)
Not only it was funny when Evermind told me to beware of somebody who might send this song. It was hilarious that two persons send the same tune :lol . But they were fine to make this a tie, and both receive the same mark.
So, this is a damn depressing, hopeless song. I struggled for choosing if this or Lucien's was sadder. Either way, this is great. Good singer, lovely piano, and superb atmosphere. This is really a good song, despite being somewhat repetitive. It makes me think of gray, desolated scenes, and feel miserable. 8/10

dredg - Cartoon Showroom (Nekov)
This was in interesting song, because it has lots of instruments and sounds I'm used to hear in post-rock, but this is alternative rock! Cool choice.  Great singer and atmosphere. More melancholic than sad, but equally good. The last crescendo is lovely.  I saw this album on a top 50 here and added it to the to-listen list just because the guy had a similar taste to me. It seems that it's not even the band's best album. Impressive. 8/10

Brand New - Limousine (Tyrias)
After hearing lots of praise for it, I tried to listen to this album several times. First, it was on YT but this netbook works awful with Flash. Then, it wasn't on Spotify (at least in my country). I even tried downloading it ( :yarr ), but the mp3 files were corrupted or something, but my mp3 player didn't play them. Finally found it on Grooveshark. And boy, what I have been missing. I liked most of this song, and thought is was weird but good. But that crescendo end climax is absolutely epic :hefdaddy . Even if it is a bit repetitive till there, it's fucking awesome. Dat guitar solo :heart . Even the awkward ending was good. This is my send fav song of the round, paired with Lucien's. Amazing. Also, never heard this pot-hardcore/emo thing. I'm not sure if the last one is really a genre or just a style, but the former is definitely a genre. So have some extra points for that. Great job dude. 9.5/10

Saddest song of the round (Theme Winner - 4 points)
Kevin Gilbert - Song for a Dead Friend (jingle.boy and Scorpion)

Special points

Nekov, song from the to-listen list (2
points)
Tyrias,
song from the to-listen list (2 points)
Tyrias, genre I've never listened to (3
points)
mikemangioy,
song from the to-listen list (2 points)
Elite, genre I've never listened to (3 points)
Tom Bombadil, band I don't like but your song was great (5 points)

Positions
mikemangioy - 36
Elite - 35
Tyrias - 32
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 28
Evermind - 26
Tom Bombadil - 26
Scorpion - 25.5
jingle.boy - 24.5
Nekov - 24
Lucien - 22.5
Round Four
Life is beautiful, isn't it?
Send me the most wonderful, beautiful, gorgeous song you can think of. My fav albums on this vein are Anathema's Weather Systems, Blackfield's Blackfield II, Opeth's Damnation, and even Porcupine Tree's In Absentia. But send me what you think beautiful songs are.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Three - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Evermind on December 01, 2014, 08:56:35 AM
Deep Purple - When a Blind Man Cries (Evermind)
I recall liking Machine Head by this band, and was surprised to get this tune. Actually, you sent me lots of old songs on this round. Back to the song. It's quite sad, really. I like the solo, it reminds me a bit of David Gilmour. The rest is a bit repetitive, with not so much variation. But I guess it's something normal with old songs. But I liked it. 6/10

The song has verse (four lines!) - chorus - solo - verse - chorus structure and the length is only 3:30, so I actually have no idea what you're talking about. Well, whatever, I kind of expected to lose in this round with this pick. Couldn't bring myself to send that Kevin Gilbert song because I somehow don't like it at all, and I don't feel sending you something I don't like at all.

Not only it was funny when Evermind told me to beware of somebody who might send this song [for a dead friend].

I also told you to rank it 1/10, have you missed this part?  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 01, 2014, 09:19:18 AM
That's a pretty common structure. And I didn't mean repetition on that. I was talking more about mood, ideas, atmosphere, instruments, etc. rather than structure. But it was just a bit repetitive for my taste - I still liked it.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 01, 2014, 09:28:19 AM
That's a pretty common structure. And I didn't mean repetition on that. I was talking more about mood, ideas, atmosphere, instruments, etc. rather than structure. But it was just a bit repetitive for my taste - I still liked it.

(yes, that's the thing, it doesn't have shitload of repeated choruses or something) I do kind of understand where you coming from about repetition, but I don't think 3-minutes long song can be called repetitive as long as it's not Sonata Arctica - I Have a Right (which is cut a bit and lasts 3:53 in official video), haha. By the way, I thought about sending Seventh Wonder - Tears for a Father, it's even shorter.  :lol

Don't mind my grumpiness; tastes are different after all.

Sent for round 4, by the way.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 01, 2014, 09:41:09 AM
Cool, I thought you'd like that one and I missed that album in your "To listen" list so I guess I'm lucky  :D

Beautiful music is my thing so I'll have to dive into my library to get something for you
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 01, 2014, 10:30:16 AM
Yay, glad you liked Blackbird. Truly a masterpiece of modern rock.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 01, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 01, 2014, 10:55:36 AM
Sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 01, 2014, 11:04:19 AM
That's a pretty common structure. And I didn't mean repetition on that. I was talking more about mood, ideas, atmosphere, instruments, etc. rather than structure. But it was just a bit repetitive for my taste - I still liked it.

(yes, that's the thing, it doesn't have shitload of repeated choruses or something) I do kind of understand where you coming from about repetition, but I don't think 3-minutes long song can be called repetitive as long as it's not Sonata Arctica - I Have a Right (which is cut a bit and lasts 3:53 in official video), haha.
Thing is, it doesn't matter if it's short or a 40-minute epic. If it is a bit repetitive, I'll notice. But yeah, tastes - I just prefer my music to have lots of variety, and preferably not a predictable structure/outcome.

Cool, I thought you'd like that one and I missed that album in your "To listen" list so I guess I'm lucky  :D

Beautiful music is my thing so I'll have to dive into my library to get something for you
I can post the entire list in text so you can all see it. Will wait for your song with high expectations ;D .

Yay, glad you liked Blackbird. Truly a masterpiece of modern rock.
Will give the album a thorough listen then :tup
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 01, 2014, 11:08:16 AM
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Thing is, it doesn't matter if it's short or a 40-minute epic. If it is a bit repetitive, I'll notice.

I guess that really comes down to how you define "repetitive". I don't think this song is repetitive even a bit. I can see why someone can think it is. Well, nevermind.

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a predictable structure/outcome

That's exactly what I sent.  :rollin
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on December 01, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Great that you liked it so much! I completely agree with you that the climactic guitar solo is epic as hell. The whole album is in my top ten albums ever ;D.

Anyway, sent you a band I saw with Pain of Salvation about 1.5 years ago that completely blew me away with their dense atmosphere and beautiful songs, but don't expect prog ;).
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 02, 2014, 11:17:55 AM
Sent :)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Elite on December 03, 2014, 10:41:32 AM
So, I have two songs I'm considering to send; one you might find 'repetitive' (even though it's beautiful) and one by a band that's already been sent. Can I send the latter, or should I stick to the first?
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Three results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 03, 2014, 04:21:16 PM
If it is really different from wht I've heard from the band (end preferably from another album), then yeah. But you can send the other track though, because I'd prefer to discover new styles and sounds.
Title: what the thread title says
Post by: Sacul on December 04, 2014, 06:27:44 AM
Everbody's in - expect results on Sunday. I'd like to have them earlier, but some relatives will visit me these days, but will manage to listen to your crap stuff ;D .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Four - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Elite on December 07, 2014, 05:43:34 PM
Soon? :)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Four - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Sacul on December 07, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Crap, I got busy with some unexpected things. But results will be up tomorrow. Or today, since it's past midnight. Whatever.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Four - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Bolsters on December 07, 2014, 10:30:46 PM
:soon:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Four - Expect results on Monday!
Post by: Evermind on December 08, 2014, 02:01:33 AM
Well, it's Monday anyway here, so I'm expecting.
Title: Great round :P
Post by: Sacul on December 08, 2014, 11:57:45 AM
On a first, superficial listen, I thought this round was terribly cheesy :lol . But it turned out to be awesome. Have your results, and sorry for the delay.

David Gilmour - Where We Start (Evermind)

What a grower. The first time I listened to this album, I almost fell asleep (but left it on the to-listen to give it a second chance). And on a first listen, this song told me nothing. But it has grown a lot on me since, and I realize how awesome it is. Slow, subtle, minimalistic. Wonderful. I love the overall atmosphere and the chorus is wonderful. This song is full of win. 9.5/10

Grayceon - War's End (Scorpion)
This song is... weird. The beginning is quite uncommon. The vocals are strange. It's depressing. And overall, this is not what I expected from a beautiful song. But damn it works. Somehow, this turned out to be wonderful. Dat violin :heart . Also, I disliked the band's previous album bus this is great. Good job Scrop. 8.5/10

IQ - Closer (Nekov)
I must say that sending me an IQ song was quite a risky move. I told you I disliked The Wake, and The Road of Bones was OK, but not my cup of tea. I must say I'm surprised. On a first listen, this was cheesy as hell. But after several spins, it's wonderful. It still has some cheese, but overshadowed by this song's awesomeness. A curious thing is that at times it sounded a bit like post-rock, mostly at the beginning. Not a bad thing though. Great song. 8/10

Frameshift - La Mer (jingle.boy)
I remember that a bit of this song was a supposed leak of the DT12. I liked it though, but eventually forgot about the album. What a surprise that someone sent me this same song. It reminds me a bit of Ana Lee (wonderful song btw) and Queen. I've always love DT's vocal lines, and James doesn't disappoint here at all - he sounds awesome. Around min 4.20 it all gets epic and great. Good song, jingle.dude. 8/10

Demians - Naive (Tom Bombadil)
Oh what a wonderful tune. The guitars of the beginning are sweet, and it gets better from there. I love atmospheric rock, but only knew Anathema from the genre. My only complaint is that the production is a bit muddy on the middle section, but otherwise this song was great. 8.5/10

Arstidir - Heidin (Tyrias)
Short, but great. At first, I thought of Opeth. But this is different. Wonderful piano, strings, and guitar on the background. Don't know what else to say, really - very few thing were bad on this tune. This band/album has lots of potential. Good job dude. 8/10

Destrage - Where the Things Have no Colour (mikemangioy)
Oh dude, I warned you about not respecting the theme. Ok, we may have different opinions on what makes a song beautiful, but hardly anything on this song counts, except some strings that appear randomly for a while and the acoustic guitars at the beginning. Don't get me wrong - I loved this song, and it rocks as hell, would give it an 8.5  if this was an open round. But you've lost a few points (3) for not attaching to the theme completely. Sorry. 5.5/10

Antonin Dvorak - New World Symphony, II. Largo (Lucien)
This song was slow, bus great. It is also damn long, but I really liked almost everything here. Don't have much to complain, just that it's a bit too long and maybe it could be faster at time. But anyways this was a wonderful choice, specially when it gets huge and epic. 8.5/10

Agent Fresco - A long Time Listening (Elite)
This is a different song. It starts and has uncommon elements that surprised me. And I love surprises like this. The choir, the guitars, the chorus, the instrumental section, almost everything is great here - even the singer. I wonder why they aren't more popular. Excellent choice dude. 9/10

Beach House - Myth (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
The nearest thing I've listened of dream pop is Sigur Rós, but they have lots of post-rock elements that I could never tell if it was just their style or another genre. I expected listening to this genre sooner or later, and it delivered. I love the ambient atmosphere, and the male/female duo. Only bad thing is that the end is too abrupt, but great song anyways - will give this album a spin. 8/10

Most beautiful song (Theme Winner - 4 points)
Frameshift - La Mer (jingle.boy)

Special points
mikemangioy, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Shadow Ninja 2.0, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Tom Bombadil, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Evermind, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Shadow Ninja 2.0, genre I haven't heard before (3 points)
Evermind, album I used to dislike but your tune was awesome (5 points)
Scorpion, band I used to disliked but your song was great (5 points)
Nekov, band I used to disliked but your song was great (5 points)


Positions
Elite - 44
mikemangioy - 43.5
Evermind - 42.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 41
Tyrias - 40
Scorpion - 39
Nekov - 37
Tom Bombadil - 36.5
jingle.boy - 36.5
Lucien - 31
Round Five
Darkness
I'm a sucker for dark music. And I know some of you too. some of my fav albums of this style are Ulver's Shadow of the Sun, Pink Floyd' TDSotM, Obsidian Kingdom's Mantiis, and Dead Can Dance's Anastasis. But I'll leave it to what you consider as "dark". Surprise me.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 08, 2014, 12:11:52 PM
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What a grower. The first time I listened to this album, I almost fell asleep (but left it on the to-listen to give it a second chance). And on a first listen, this song told me nothing. But it has grown a lot on me since, and I realize how awesome it is. Slow, subtle, minimalistic. Wonderful. I love the overall atmosphere and the chorus is wonderful. This song is full of win. 9.5/10

That's what I was afraid of. I told you in "What album are you listening to" thread that you might not like the album since you expressed a bit of dislike towards The Road of Bones, and while those albums aren't quite alike, there are similarities. But I'm happy it's all turned out great. Gilmour blew me away with this album big time. Glad you've liked the song.

I kind of suck at Dark theme, but I'll see what I can find. I'll send around Wednesday, have quite a lot of work now.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 08, 2014, 12:12:54 PM
Glad you liked the song! I think it's just the one singer though.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tom Bombadil on December 08, 2014, 12:18:58 PM
Was kinda hoping I would move up with a 10.5 point round, but I actually went down  :(

Ha anyway glad you liked the song. Sending next round now
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2014, 12:20:44 PM
Was kinda hoping I would move up with a 10.5 point round, but I actually went down  :(


I hear ya... with all these bonus points flying around, the rankings aren't exactly reflective of how well the songs are doing themselves.

Really not sure what to send here.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 08, 2014, 12:37:21 PM
I don't really care about rankings, I just like sharing music.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 08, 2014, 12:40:55 PM
Oh. Ok, no big deal. You liked the track, and I'm glad about it  :tup
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on December 08, 2014, 12:53:05 PM
I'm glad you liked Arstidir! Is there some kind of time limit on songs, because I'm kinda torn between 2 songs right now and one of them is 16 minutes...?
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2014, 01:06:11 PM
I don't really care about rankings, I just like sharing music.

Well, for the most part, me too.  But I also like winning.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 08, 2014, 01:33:18 PM
I told you that song rules! Glad I stuck with it.

I don't really care about rankings, I just like sharing music.

Well, for the most part, me too.  But I also like winning.

Interesting given how you don't know what winning is....
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 08, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
I'm glad you liked Arstidir! Is there some kind of time limit on songs, because I'm kinda torn between 2 songs right now and one of them is 16 minutes...?
I'd prefer shorter songs, just to make thing go quicker with the round since it'd take me more time to appreciate a long tune. But if you think it's awesome enough, go ahead.

Well, for the most part, me too.  But I also like winning.
You can always send something from the to-listen list  :P .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2014, 01:51:41 PM
I don't really care about rankings, I just like sharing music.

Well, for the most part, me too.  But I also like winning.

Interesting given how you don't know what winning is....

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Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Ouch! :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Scorpion on December 08, 2014, 02:43:10 PM
Given that jingle has already won a few of these things, I wouldn't even count that as a burn. Maybe as a hilariously failed attempt at one.








Sorry Diego, love ya. :heart

Also yay for liking War's End. You're actually the first person to not say that it was boring out of all the people that have gotten that tune from me in roulettes. Psh, plebs. Pro-tip though: that's a cello, not a violin.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 08, 2014, 02:58:21 PM
It was a really interesting choice. And yeah, I supossed it was too low to be a violin, but couldn't remember it's name :lol .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 08, 2014, 03:30:11 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on December 08, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
Sent as well. Went with a 4-minute-song instead of the 16-minute song ::).
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Given that jingle has already won a few of these things, I wouldn't even count that as a burn. Maybe as a hilariously failed attempt at one.

It's all in good jest, and I took it as such.  Thanks for coming to my defense though Tommy Boy.   :tup
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 08, 2014, 06:57:37 PM
Sent

Given that jingle has already won a few of these things, I wouldn't even count that as a burn. Maybe as a hilariously failed attempt at one.

I know, he actually has 1 more win than I do but it's the usual roulette trash talk  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Scorpion on December 08, 2014, 11:38:03 PM
I know how you guys roll. That was mainly me trashtalking Diego for being ineffective at sick burns, even though it had the unfortunate side effect of defending Chad. You know, choosing your battles and such. :D
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Lucien on December 10, 2014, 01:07:59 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 10, 2014, 08:50:39 AM
Sented.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Four results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 10, 2014, 08:29:12 PM
I'm just missing on Elite. If he sends by tomorrow, results will be up on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for Round Five! (missing: Elite)
Post by: Elite on December 11, 2014, 12:19:44 PM
Then we'll see results on Saturday :)
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing round five - Expect results on Saturday
Post by: Sacul on December 11, 2014, 12:48:44 PM
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Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing round five - Expect results on Saturday
Post by: Elite on December 13, 2014, 11:25:42 AM
Yes I am. How did my song do? :)
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Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2014, 07:22:09 PM
It's Saturday evening here, so...

Tenhi - Huomen (Tom Bombadil)

Nice minimalistic song, and great atmosphere. Although I don't understand the lyrics, the singer is great and makes a good job, specially when singing out loud, like in a chamber. Never heard this neo-folk thing - the closest is Ulver's Bergtatt, when it gets folky. It works great on the background, but it is too simple for my taste. Nice anyways. 7/10

Half Moon Run - No More Losing the War (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
This song was similar to the previous, as both are folk-y and dark. But this is different, of course. I like the singer's voice and the effects on the vocals. Love the atmosphere. Great guitars on the background.  Short, but good song. 7.5/10

Storm Corrosion - Drag Ropes (mikemangioy)
This is like, my third attempt to Storm Corrosion. Heard it a few months after it's release, but disliked it. Gave it another chance earlier this year, and nothing. I've listened to lots of music since, and thought it might change my appreciation of this. The dark, bleak atmosphere is great, and so does Mikael's voice. It all goes great till 2.19 when those weird effects appears. After that, it gets weird. Like, so much. Some parts are cool, and other not so much. The vocal counterpoint is awkward, but awesome somehow. The rest of the song has some boring sections, and some neat ones, like the guitar solo and when the piano appears here and there. Overall is weird, even for Steven's standards. If I had liked it a bit more, you would have earned the special points. But, well... 6.5/10

Susanne Sundfor - White Foxes (Tyrias)
This is an interesting choice. The synths and her voice are lovely. Somehow, this is fairly electronic, yet it all feels alive and dark. specially with how the vocals sound. The chorus is great, and so does the rest of the song. I'm a noob on electronic music, but I love what I've discovered so far - so don't be afraid to send that kind of stuff. This is great stuff. Baroque pop? Interesting genre. 8.5/10

Russian Circles - Burial (Nekov)
This is creepy. Definitely the darkest tune from this round. I'm not a big fan of post-metal, specially if it includes senseless growls. Or at least in the style of Isis' Panopticon. Good thing this is just instrumental. I think I've heard this band mentioned a few time on the post-rock thread. It has some post-rock, indeed. But also lots of heavy, distorted guitars. There are some intense moments, with great work on the drums. I'm not a big fan of the guitar tone, specially during the first half. But what the hell, the ending is great. 7.5/10

InVertigo - Darkness (jingle.boy)
This band must be really underground since they aren't on Sputnik nor have more than 1K plays on Spotify - they're on PA though. About the song. It's quite proggy and has lots of variations, that it never gets boring.  And although I like this tune so much, specially after the first half (when it gets awesome), it isn't really dark. Just because it's on the title, it doesn't automatically apply for the theme. I'd give this song an 8.5 if it was another round. But... "What could be better than a song titled "Darkness"". That it actually was dark. 5.5/10

Alcest - Souvenirs d'un autre monde (Lucien)
I've heard the new Alcest album everywhere. On lots of tops and what-I've-been-listening-to lists. This seems to be one of their first works, when they were black metal with shoegaze, I think? It doesn't matter - this is awesome. I love the ethereal atmosphere and what the guitars does. It kind of reminds me to modern Anathema. Although it'd seem awkward that the singer was too static while the song was energetic, it actually works great. I love this shoegaze thing - will have to listen to Loveless soon, it seems. Gorgeous. 9.5/10

Amon Amarth - Embrace of the Endless Ocean (Scorpion)
I think the closest I've listened to melodeath is Opeth, but they're too proggy and folky, so they don't count. You were woried wether this would be a total hit or complete miss. Congratulations - it's the former. I love how this song focuses on songwriting and a clean production rather than masturbating over senseless riffs and the cookies monster with common cold. The growls are cool, they guy has talent. The guitar work is also amazing, it never gets boring and does lots of things. I know that death metal can get way more extreme, so I appreciate this degree of intensity. I dislike death metal in the vein of Death's Symbolic. But this is another thing. Awesome. 8.5/10

Need - Mother Madness (Evermind)
My problem with prog metal in general is how unoriginal most of the genre is. It's like they took Fates Warning's songwriting, added some acoustic guitars a la Queensryche, and a few DT melodies. I've listened to lots of artists that don't even have a signature sound nor focus on songwriting. My fav bands of the genre do actually mix their music with another elements and really care for being original, making great songs and never repeat themselves no what other have done before. So I was fairly skeptical when you and Elite sent me prog metal, since the songs were not genre-bending. On a first listen, this was bad. But after some spins, it grew a bit on me. It actually has lots of variety and it's fairly interesting. My only complaint are the vocal lines, which aren't so original and are reminiscent of thrash metal. And had some cheese here and there. But it was a good song anyways. 7.5/10

Flaming Row - Time Mirror (Elite)
Another prog metal song, with some power metal. I've seen some users on this forum masturbating over the band's new album, and was curious when you sent me song from them. Dude, this is great. I love the chorus (kind of reminds me to Symphony X) and when the female singer appears. The heavy moment at 2.20 is :metal . Too sad it's short but whatever. This song has a nice balance between drumming, guitars, and synths. The instrumental section is quite creative and interesting. Cool song. 8.5/10

Darkest song (Theme Winner - 4 points)
Russian Circles - Burial (Nekov)

Special points
Tom Bombadil,
genre I've never listened to (neo-folk) (3 points)
Lucien,
genre I've never listened to (shoegaze) (3 points)
Scorpion,
genre I've never listened to (melodic death metal) (3 points)
Tyrias, genre I've never listened to (baroque pop) (3 points)
Evermind, song from a genre I dislike but what you sent was great (5 points)
Elite, song from a genre I dislike but what you sent was great (5 points)

Nekov, song from a genre I dislike but what you sent was great (5 points)

Positions
Elite - 57.5
Evermind - 55
Nekov - 53.5
Tyrias - 51.5
Scorpion - 50.5
mikemangioy - 50
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 48.5
Tom Bombadil - 46.5
Lucien - 43.5
jingle.boy - 42
Round Six
Music for Airports
If you have been too lazy to google this, then let me explain it. The title of this round is a reference to the Brian Eno album, Ambient 1: Music for Airports. So - send me some ambient (duh) songs. My fav albums on this vein are Ulver's Shadows of the Sun/Messe, GYBE!'s F#A#Infinity, Devin Townsend's Ghost, and Stars of the Lid's And their Refinement of the Decline. If you don't have this kind of stuff, just send laid back songs with a huge, unique atmosphere. With a great focus in sound rather than in songwriting. I have some ambient records on my to-listen list, by the way.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 13, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
sent
Title: Re: Great round :P
Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2014, 09:20:57 PM
But I'll leave it to what you consider as "dark". Surprise me.

Guess you didn't really mean it, huh?   :P

Sent.  Hopefully it's "airport"-y enough for you.  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 14, 2014, 12:45:24 AM
What If I someone doesn't know anything about ambient? He doesn't even listen to it?

EDIT: Ok, I need to read better  :lol

EDIT PART 2: Sent!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2014, 03:18:08 AM
Glad you liked it, and of course glad I've got a lot of points.

And here's another theme I'm going to struggle finding a fitting song. I'll send either today or Tuesday.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 14, 2014, 06:33:28 AM
 :D

Sent
Title: Re: Great round :P
Post by: Sacul on December 14, 2014, 07:16:52 AM
But I'll leave it to what you consider as "dark". Surprise me.

Guess you didn't really mean it, huh?   :P
I tried several times, and I swear couldn't find out how that song could be anything dark :lol . It is even a bit happy here and there. Regarding DSotM being dark, it's more like the album is a soft night. Ulver is bleak, but Dark Side is warm yet dark. Like a twilight.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for Round Six (Airport)!
Post by: Sacul on December 15, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
Hey guys, maybe some of you are on holidays or will be soon. And we have Christmas and New Year soon. So, you can start sending me songs for the following two rounds. I think at this point you've got an idea of my tastes in music - of course you can wait till the results for this round are up, but you're free to start sending for the remaining rounds.

About the Epic theme: the songs don't necessarily need to be long for the sake of it - just have an "epic feeling", and/or a great climax. A short epic song would be Devin Townsend's Truth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NMYtIUm6pc), and a tune with a fantastic climax is Octavarium, for example.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for Round Six (Airport)!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 15, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Final rounds sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for Round Six (Airport)!
Post by: Sacul on December 16, 2014, 07:53:09 AM
Cool. I'm just missing on Elite, Lucien, Scorpion and Evermind for this round.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for Round Six (Airport)!
Post by: Evermind on December 16, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Well man, I've decided what to send (and I'm gonna suck at this round so hard), but I either need to download the track or rip my CD, so you'll have to wait a bit.

Edit: aaaand sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for Round Six (Airport)!
Post by: Lucien on December 16, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Five results! Send for Round Six (Airport)!
Post by: Sacul on December 17, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
I'm just missing Elite. If he sends by tomorrow, then expect results on Friday.
Title: Re: The ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)‎ Roulette v. Send for Round Six (Airports)! (Missing: Elite)
Post by: Nekov on December 18, 2014, 03:31:44 AM
Stop being a slacker Elite!!!!
Title: Re: The ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)‎ Roulette v. Send for Round Six (Airports)! (Missing: Elite)
Post by: Elite on December 18, 2014, 07:56:11 AM
:') why am I always the last one to send?
Title: Re: The ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)‎ Roulette v. Send for Round Six (Airports)! (Missing: Elite)
Post by: Sacul on December 18, 2014, 07:59:15 AM
And the first one to ask for results? That's... confusing dude :( .
Title: Re: The ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)‎ Roulette v. Send for Round Six (Airports)! (Missing: Elite)
Post by: Elite on December 18, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
So, when will we have results then? :P
Title: Re: The ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)‎ Roulette v. Send for Round Six (Airports)! (Missing: Elite)
Post by: Sacul on December 18, 2014, 08:10:04 AM
Tomorrow. You can send for the next two rounds too, just in case you'll be busy during these weeks.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Six - Expect results on Friday!
Post by: Sacul on December 19, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
The Album Leaf - Window (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
This is very minimalistic, soft and warm. Perfect for the background while doing other stuff, like studying. Or for a simple video game like Minecraft. It's a lovely post-rock/ambient/drone song. But not much more than that. 7/10

Shadow Circus - Ixchel (jingle.boy)
Great interlude. I like the soft guitars at the beginning, and it gets better from there. I love those guitars on the background, like a certain section of The Count of Tuscany. And the piano. I'm sure this might be a really interesting album. 7.5/10

Pink Floyd - Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun (mikemangioy)
Interesting PF song. Quite psychedelic and experimental. But it's far from what they'd achieve later. This is not bad, but I just happen to prefer the maturity they achieved later. 6.5/10

Phillip Glass - Opening (Nekov)
I'm a sucker for piano-driven songs. This is a wonderful, even if  bit repetitive, song. Haunting keys, and lovely chord progressions. Sweet. I'll hear the rest of this album. 8/10

Alex & Jonsi - Boy 1904 (Tyrias)
Wonderful tune by Sigur Rós singer and his boyfriend. This seems to rely on some samples and synths with lots of space for it to evolve. Haunting, peaceful, and gorgeous. I really like this. 8.5/10

Agalloch - Odal (Tom Bombadil)
Wow. I dismissed Agalloch as a poor post-metal band like Isis. But this song is awesome. The first half sounds quite post-rocky, with that great buildup. Ant the rest is awesome, specially when the piano appears. Great ending. 9/10

Jon Lord - Sarabande (Evermind)
This is really an interesting song. I love the groove it has. It's a great mix of orchestral work with some rock and synths. But it's not that ambient, dude. I should have told ya it didn't have to be instrumental - the David Gilmour tune would have perfectly fitted this theme. But well, this is it. I'd give this tune an 8, but you know what happens now. 5/10

Ludwig von Beethoven - Symphony 7, Movement 2 (Lucien)
Oh boy, I do love Beethoven. His songs are full of emotion and are pretty memorable. And beautiful. Although he's on the banned artists list, I just know a few of his compositions, so don't worry for sending me this Lucien. The only bad thing about this is not the song itself, but the dynamics - I had to turn up the volume really high to hear everything. But it doesn't influence on your mark. Gorgeous tune. 9/10

Shpongle - Star Shpongled Banner (Scorpion)
This is quite a strange song. But dude, I do love absolutely everything here. There's not even a single moment where I felt bored. This sweet piece of psy trance with ambient and world influences is truly gorgeous. I'm a noob on electronic music and it's sub-genres, but this is superb. Really, this is among my fav songs of the whole roulette. Great - no, amazing job dude. 10/10

Cartographer - A Sea of Sunshine, but None for You (Elite)
This song had a sweet beginning and it kept like that for two thirds of the song. My fav part is the ending, when it gets intense and awesome. Post-rock can be quite unoriginal at times, mainly because everyone seems to use the same styles over and over again. 6.5/10

Most airport-ish song (Theme Winner - 4 points)
Alex & Jonsi - Boy 1904 (Tyrias)

Special points

Scorpion, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Tom Bombadil, band/album I used to dislike, but what you sent was great (5 points)


Positions
Elite - 64
Tyrias - 64
Scorpion - 62.5
Nekov - 61.5
Tom Bombadil - 60.5
Evermind - 60
mikemangioy - 56.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 55.5
Lucien - 52.5
jingle.boy - 49.5
Round Seven
Epic


In case you didn't read it, I'll copy what I said a few posts earlier.
Quote
About the Epic theme: the songs don't need to be long for the sake of it - just have an "epic feeling", and/or a great climax. A short epic song would be Devin Townsend's Truth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NMYtIUm6pc), and a tune with a fantastic climax is Octavarium, for example.
So yeah, don't send songs that are long for the sake of it. Some of you have sent epic tunes on this roulette - like Alter Bridge's Blackbird and Brand New's Limousine. Lots of post-rock have these great crescendos that end in an epic climax (like GYBE!). If you have doubts about if your song qualifies for the theme, just send it to me, will give it a quick listen, and tell you if you have to change it or not - unless you want to risk yourself to lose 3 points. Ok enough reading, go and send that song now!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 19, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
And down the results list I go. Well, I expected that. Also, that theme sucked.

I know what I'm sending, it will either win me the whole lot of points, or earn something like 4/10. We shall see, I guess.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 19, 2014, 11:57:27 AM
Nice. I think you'll enjoy the rest of the album. I'll take my time to send the epic
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Evermind on December 19, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
Sent man, I hope you enjoy this.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 19, 2014, 12:03:36 PM
Nice. I think you'll enjoy the rest of the album. I'll take my time to send the epic
Don't worry, you'll find all you need in your mind.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tom Bombadil on December 19, 2014, 12:23:54 PM
Cool. Finally starting to make up some ground :tup

EDIT: Sent!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Lucien on December 19, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Oh crap, I had no idea Beethoven was banned,  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Nekov on December 19, 2014, 08:10:28 PM
Sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Tyrias on December 20, 2014, 01:00:59 PM
Sent. 16 minutes long, but you said I should send it in this round in the dark round, so here I am ;).
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 20, 2014, 02:07:53 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Elite on December 21, 2014, 05:14:32 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Six results! Send for the next one!
Post by: Sacul on December 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'm just missing on the guy obsessed with scorpions. Besides that, I've had some difficulties, and couldn't listen to your stuff. But if they are solved (and Scops sends by) tomorrow, then results would be up on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for the epic round! (Missing: Scorpion)
Post by: Scorpion on December 26, 2014, 03:56:24 AM
I'M SORRY I SHALL SAY SEVEN HAIL MARY'S TO REPENT I WAS SO SURE THAT I HAD SENT BEFORE LEAVING TO THE RELATIVES FOR CHRISTMAS
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Send for the epic round! (Missing: Scorpion)
Post by: Sacul on December 26, 2014, 08:07:51 AM
You shall burn in hell >:( .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Seven - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Sacul on December 26, 2014, 08:08:24 AM
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Seven - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Elite on December 28, 2014, 04:32:26 PM
So, results?

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Seven - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Sacul on December 28, 2014, 06:55:04 PM
It tuned out that I have almost two hours of music to process, and it's not easy :lol (some funny dude sent me a 26 min epic >:( ). So you may expect resuts on Tuesday since tomorrow will be a busy day for me. Thus, in the meantime...



Round Eight
Open
This is possibly the final round - although will have a few more if I happen to have some free time in January. But in any case, just send for this one. You might have an idea of my musical tastes now, so send whatever you think I may like - no theme this time. Good luck.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Seven - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Elite on December 29, 2014, 02:41:21 AM
It tuned out that I have almost two hours of music to process, and it's not easy :lol (some funny dude sent me a 26 min epic >:( ).

 :angel:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Seven - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Nekov on December 29, 2014, 05:02:39 AM
Even though I'm pretty sure what I'll send, I want to wait for the results
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Round Seven - Expect results on Sunday!
Post by: Sacul on December 30, 2014, 11:05:36 AM
Avantasia - The Scarecrow (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
The best thing of this song is the instrumental work. Seriously, those are realy awesome. But? Yeah, but... the vocal lines are dreadful. Boring. Bad as most power metal (although there were some good moments like the chorus). It seems that musicians of this genre can't write a single good vocal line without cheese. That's why I dislike it. But other than that, the song was quite awesome. 7/10

Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time (Evermind)
It was just a matter of time you send me a power metal song :P . Having read the Wheel of Time series (and loved it), I was worried a song about it would suck. And it doesn't do that. This tune is amazing. It's epic without being cheesy (ok, just a bit here and there), the production is great, but Light help me, dat chorus and the orchestral elements (and the choir) are tits. Despite the heavy moments being somewhat pointless, this is some serious shit. Take your freaking points dude. 8.5/10

Redemption - Love Kill Us All / Life in One Day (Tom Bombadil)
Ah, this band again. I remember giving this album a chance some months ago, mainly for the LaBrie guest spot. But didn't like it that time. And neither this time. I dislike most of prog metal because of it's bad songwriting/lack of creativity/too reminiscent of Fates Warning and Queensryche/and it's weird melodies (I'm looking at you, Yes). This tune had some interesting moments, but overall it isn't for me. Sorry. 6/10

Peter Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake Finale (Lucien)
This dude again? I just don't like how he changes melodies and ideas over and over again on a same song, making it difficult to follow. but this is different. I've never listened the Swan Lake, although knew about it, so this was interesting. It starts slow and then turns into epicness. Great, awesome piece. A curious thing, some phrases seem to have inspired Williams to create Harry Potter's theme. And it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case - movie soundtracks are heavily influenced by classical and neoclassical music. 9/10

Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae (Nekov)
This is truly a gorgeous song. The rock and metal elements mixed with some electronics are wonderfully blended. I love how creative this is, specially the chorus and the female singer. This tune is full of win. No wonder why this band was thought to be prog's future. So sad they disbanded. 9/10

Swans - Helpless Child (Tyrias)
This is a weird song. But already knew Swans and Michael Gira weren't normal people, so it doesn't surprise me that much. It starts slow, and to the ends it reaches with a crescendo into a great climax. Althought it would have fitted better on the dark round, it's still epic enough to enter this round. Interesting tune from an album I'm sure it's a masochistic listen. 7/10

Iron Maiden - Paschaendale (mikemangioy)
This is a badass tune, that has some power metal vibes here and there, nut nothing of the cheese. The riffs are cool, and the production is amazing. Bruce Dickinson is really a talented singer. Curiously, the instrumental sections were a bit meh. But overall, this is a great tune. 7.5/10

Iron Maiden - Rime of the ancient mariner (jingle.boy)
While listening to this, I couldn't stop thinking how similar Geoff Tate and Dickinson are in terms of style and technique - obviously they have different things, but I can see how influenced who. Not a bad thing though, just a curiosity. About the song. It wasn't bad, no, but didn't blow me away nor it did impress me like the other Maiden song. The "ambient" (or however it is) section of the middle is really boring and kills the vibe. But after that it gets great when the guitars return. 6.5/10

Mono - Everlasting Light (Scorpion)
Oh, I remember playing this album some months ago. Loves it on the first listen, but couldn't finish it on the following spins - I just got overwhelmed by it. And somehow I forgot about it. Fucking mistake. I love how it starts with a gorgeous piano and slowly goes into crescendo to a superb climax. This is beautiful music. 9/10

Transatlantic - Duel with the Devil (Elite)
Do you think this is funny? That this is a mothafucka game? Well, it actually is - but sending me a 26 min epic is... evil >:( . Trying to digest this tune took me lots of time, but it somehow delivered. Oh yeah. I always dismissed Transatlantic as being a boring 70's prog revival band, so never listened to them thinking they were sh*t. I was wrong - this is great. It sometimes has some pointless moments, but also has some great parts. Great choice.  8/10


Most epic song (Theme winner - 4 points)
Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time (Evermind)

Special points
Nekov, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Tyrias, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
jingle.boy, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Evermind, album from the to-listen list (2 points)
Evermind, song from a genre I dislike, but your tune was great (5 points)
Shadow Ninja 2.0, song from a genre I dislike, but your tune was great (5 points)
Scorpion, song from a album I disliked, but your tune was awesome (5 points)

Lucien, song from a artist I dislike, but your tune was awesome (5 points)

Positions
Evermind - 79.5
Scorpion - 76.5
Tyrias - 73
Nekov - 72.5
Elite - 72
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 67.5
Tom Bombadil - 66.5
Lucien - 66.5
mikemangioy - 64
jingle.boy - 58

And now, the "last" round. Even if this countinues after this round, make it worth.

Round Eight
Open

This is possibly the final round - although will have a few more if I happen to have some free time in January. But in any case, just send for this one. You might have an idea of my musical tastes now, so send whatever you think I may like - no theme this time. Good luck.

Btw, if you've seen my post on the General Discussion forum, you know I'll be taking a trip to England during January. I don't think I'll have enough time to continue with the roulette there, but if I can, I'll have a few more rounds, but only if you want. I'm taking of the 2nd, so please, send me your songs as soon as possible so I can give them a shot in the plane or before.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Evermind on December 30, 2014, 11:49:17 AM
Blood and bloody ashes, I'm in the lead!  :lol

Yeah, I was taking a risk there and it paid off big time. Knowing that you're an avid fan of WoT series, I just had to send this one.

I'll send tomorrow (in ~18 hours), as I still haven't decided what to send.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Elite on December 30, 2014, 12:19:08 PM
I feel like I should get extra points for three reasons:

- Duel With the Devil is a flawless song and should get 10/10 no matter what.
- I was the only person to actually send you an epic.
- You said you 'always dismissed' Transatlantic, yet you liked the song. That should count for some bonus points right?


:biggrin:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Sacul on December 30, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
I feel like I should get extra points for three reasons:

- Duel With the Devil is a flawless song and should get 10/10 no matter what. Maybe with more listens - there's potential there.
- I was the only person to actually send you an epic. Was it funny, huh?
- You said you 'always dismissed' Transatlantic, yet you liked the song. That should count for some bonus points right? Nop, is more like I had a bias on the band - never actually listened to them.


 :biggrin:
You can always send something from the to-listen list - have lots of shit there, even from genres I haven't heard yet. That alone would give you 5 points :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Nekov on December 30, 2014, 03:04:05 PM
Great, PRR is truly a unique band.

Sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: mikemangioy on December 31, 2014, 06:55:57 AM
sent
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Evermind on December 31, 2014, 07:54:54 AM
Sent and leaving for a few days for New Year celebrations.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Sacul on January 02, 2015, 05:27:27 AM
I'm just missing on Elite and Tom Bombadil
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Elite on January 02, 2015, 05:59:20 AM
That's because I couldn't be online due to New year's Eve celebrations and shit. Sending now.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Tom Bombadil on January 02, 2015, 10:42:16 AM
Sorry for the delay. I've sent now.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Sacul on January 03, 2015, 11:37:35 PM
That's because I couldn't be online due to New year's Eve celebrations and shit. Sending now.
No problems. Everybody's in - I don't know how the internet connection will be here in the following days (changing hotels daily), so expect results in Wednesday. I'll have them earlier if I can, but that's not sure. Meanwhile, answer the poll :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Evermind on January 04, 2015, 02:26:14 AM
If I'm still in the lead after this round (which I sincerely doubt), I don't want more rounds; if not, of course let's go for a few more.  :lol

How's England, by the way?
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Nekov on January 04, 2015, 09:14:11 AM
As fun as this has been I think this should be the last round. Let someone else have fun too  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Scorpion on January 04, 2015, 09:39:28 AM
Yeah, eight rounds is a good number. I'd say you end it after the open round.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Sacul on January 04, 2015, 12:36:47 PM
How's England, by the way?
Lovely, beautiful buildings (and redheads   :coolio), nice people, cheap books and clothes, glad people get my poor pronunciation - and expensive food, still have to recover sleep from the flights, weird plugs, and dude, it's fucking freezing. Seriously, I have never had to wear too many clothes. But despite it, I think I'll be sad when I have to leave, cause this is great.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Evermind on January 04, 2015, 12:39:25 PM
How's England, by the way?
Lovely, beautiful buildings (and redheads   :coolio), nice people, cheap books and clothes, glad people get my poor pronunciation - and expensive food, still have to recover sleep from the flights, weird plugs, and dude, it's fucking freezing. Seriously, I have never had to wear too many clothes. But despite it, I think I'll be sad when I have to leave, cause this is great.

Freezing? I've watched Dover - Crystal Palace today and there were no snow or rain even. It's clearly higher than 0°C there, I would say, though I could be wrong. But if I'm not, 0°C is not freezing. But hell, other than that, the description sounds awfully nice.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Sacul on January 07, 2015, 05:22:02 PM
Don't worry guys, I have listened to your stuff, and the write-ups are almost finished. But can't really post them with my crappy smartphone, so will rent a PC on the hotel's cyber tomorrow and will give you something decent. And will upload some pics from here, so you can see how fucking freezing it is.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Round Seven results! Send for the Open round!
Post by: Nekov on January 07, 2015, 05:47:20 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Processing Final Round - Results on Thursday
Post by: Sacul on January 08, 2015, 05:40:56 PM
Caligula's Horse - Vanishing Rites (mikemangioy)
I do like the vibes of this song, and how it flows. But there are some parts that sound too reminiscent of Haken's Aquarius. Even though, the djent parts were really cool, and the singer is awesome. Will surely give this one a shot, it seems promising. Great song overall. 8/10


Oceansize - You Wish (Tyrias)
Oh is band again I remember giving them a chance with Frames. And although I liked it, I just got bored and forgot about them. This is a decent song, with some great instrumental work, and a good singer. The vocal lines are rather weak, or at least not my cup of tea - I just like to have a bit more of balance between instrumental sections and vocals. And sometimes that limit is exceeded with too many vocal lines. It also started boring but ended up great. 8/10


The Contortionist - Language I: Intuition (Nekov)
I remember this band getting praised a lot and gave it a chance some months ago. And didn't like it. Nor this time - I left it on the to-listen list to see if someone sent me a song I liked from the album. The calm sections are great but I don't get the heaviness and the wankery. Overall it was good, but not enough. 6/10


Sonata Artica - Don't Say a Word (Evermind)
More power metal? You do have balls. This tune had, surprisingly, decent vocal lines and a good chorus. And enough variety. But I just don't like the band's style that much, and I'm tired of the power metal sound. It has some nice parts and others a bit boring. And a lot of cheese. At least disagreeing with your top 50 is fun . 6.5/10


Boston - Foreplay/Long Time (jingle.boy)
Oh boy, didn't expect this to be so good. I knew this album was so praised, and added it for that reason to the to-listen list. But since I'm not too fond of old-school music, didn't expect this. Everything here is great and awesome, full of win. This song it's lots of fun, and made me smile several times. I love when the acoustic guitars kick in. My only complaint is that I don't get how the instrumental intros connects with the rest of the song - maybe it does within the context of the album. But it doesn't matter that much, since they're both grate. Awesome tune. 9.5/10


Myrath - My Inner War (Scorpion)
This is quite an interesting and eclectic metal-driven song. I really liked it overall, despite having some weak vocal lines at times and some pointless wankery near the end. But it was badass, like the thrash sections. 8/10


U.D.O. - I Give as Good as I Get (Shadow Ninja 2.0)
I hate the guitars at the beginning. They were annoying on the 80s, and sound awful on prog, specially with metal. Thankfully, it gets better from there - but just a bit. I'm not fond of the vocalist nor the vocal lines, but the electric guitar work is interesting when it appears. It could have been better. 5.5/10


Schizoid Lloyd - Misanthrope Puppet (Elite)
This is quite an interesting, eclectic listen. And quite proggy. I like the groove and the atmosphere. And the different transitions and sounds. My only complaint is that sometimes the vocal lines could be better. And the ending a bit shorter. But it's really interesting anyways. 8.5/10


A Perfect Circle  - The Outsider (Tom Bombadil)
This has a Tool vibe. Not a bad thing, but I find it hilarious how I prefer other bands using Tool's sound rather than Tool themselves. And it has almost the same problem as with the Oceansize song, but a bit more balanced this time. This is a badass tune, with lots of attitude and heaviness. Props to the singer. Interesting song and band. 8/10


Lucien - Overture to Winter (Lucien)
Quite minimalistic, peaceful, and soft. This is a nice song you wrote, and it could perfectly fit an 16-bit rpg set in a winter land. Some parts even reminded me of some Pokemon games. Come on dude, you've got an ear for making this kind of music. I hope you manage to put an album on Bandcamp - I would buy it, even if it sucks.8/10


Special points
Nekov, song from the to-listen list (2 points)
jingle.boy, song from the to-listen list (2 points)
Elite, song from the to-listen list (2 points)
Tom Bombadil, song from the to-listen list (2 points)
Tyrias, a band I used to dislike, but your song was great (5 points)


Positions
Tyrias - 86
Evermind - 86
Scorpion - 84.5
Elite - 82.5
Nekov - 80.5
Tom Bombadil - 76.5
Lucien - 74.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0 - 73
mikemangioy - 72
jingle.boy - 69.5


Now wait a minute man. This isn't how it is. I'm confused. Just one of you should win this :eek . Now listen up participants - if you want to carry this on for one or two more rounds, I'm fine. But if you're tired of this shit willing to put this to an end, then here's how we can do it: Evermind and Tyrias send me a song, without a theme, and the one I like best, it wins the game. But with a special condition: no special points at all. What matters now it's the song, not how you combine points smartly. But only if you want, of course.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Sacul on January 08, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
Please answer the poll (yeah, again) and give me your thoughts on how to proceed :corn .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Nekov on January 08, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Well, I thought you'd enjoy that one but to each his own. As I said before, this was fun while it lasted but it's probably better if someone else can have fun too.

Thanks for running this  :tup
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: mikemangioy on January 08, 2015, 11:21:29 PM
As fun as the roulette is, a challenge sounds even more fun so yep.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 08, 2015, 11:24:22 PM
Yeah, I'd say go ahead and finish it, the roulette waiting list is still pretty long.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Tyrias on January 09, 2015, 01:14:28 AM
Well, I wasn't expecting to end up tied for first after being 6,5 back last round. No complaints though :o

Since the poll is already 5:1 for ending this with a duel I'll start thinking about which song to send ;).
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Evermind on January 09, 2015, 02:57:39 AM
Damn, I was hoping for 7,5 points and +5 for power metal. Well, this risk didn't pay out.

I'm all for finishing this one, and I'll go think what to send. However, I'm leaving for two days in a few hours, and I don't want to make hasty decisions, so you may have to wait a bit before you'll get my song.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Elite on January 09, 2015, 05:22:22 AM
I'd say just stop it now. It has taken quite long already. Just end the roulette with two winners. That has been done before as well.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: mikemangioy on January 09, 2015, 06:19:20 AM
Anyways, A Perfect Cricle sounds like Tool no wonder because Keenan is in that band  :lol
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Sacul on January 09, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
I'd say just stop it now. It has taken quite long already. Just end the roulette with two winners. That has been done before as well.
Well, the guys have chosen to have a final duel. And yeah, this has taken quite long, but I'd like to say that it's less than some other roulettes, so a few days more won't hurt anybody.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Nekov on January 09, 2015, 10:15:06 AM
This took less than the 2 months that 8 round roulettes normally last so you did pretty good
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Tyrias on January 09, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
So I'm assuming we're having the duel and I can send my song? If yes then I'll sleep over my choice and send tomorrow  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Sacul on January 09, 2015, 02:20:15 PM
Yeah, take your time to think your choice you two. Because there are no special points, sending me good power metal won't save your ass unless it's freaking good and deserves a high mark on it's own. So by now you're aware of my tastes -  dislike cheesy stuff, like well-crafted music, with smart songwriting. And have a weakness for pianos, well-written pop songs, and big choirs. And another crap I can't remember now, so good luck.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Tyrias on January 11, 2015, 02:42:18 AM
Sent. I hope you like it enough for me to win this :D.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Evermind on January 11, 2015, 07:19:32 AM
Sent my second favourite song of all time.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Sacul on January 11, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
Entries received. Although they're two songs, I want to give them several spins before choosing a winner. This ends on Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2015, 03:35:45 PM
This ends on Wednesday.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5I5KwaCQAAQ8NH.jpg)  ;D
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. Final round results! And a dramatic turn of events
Post by: Evermind on January 11, 2015, 09:30:45 PM
Entries received. Although they're two songs, I want to give them several spins after choosing a winner. This ends on Wednesday.

Any chance you'll do that before choosing a winner? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. It all ends on Wednesday.
Post by: Sacul on January 12, 2015, 05:21:02 AM
Definitely - writing on a smartphone late at night in another language ain't easy :lol.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. It all ends on Wednesday.
Post by: Sacul on January 14, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
On a first listen, the winner was clear. But the other song grew on me, and it's getting really tough to choose which is best. If I can decide in the next few hours, I'll post the champion's name. If not, you'll have to wait till tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. It all ends on Wednesday.
Post by: Evermind on January 14, 2015, 01:04:29 PM
I would say take all the time you need and want, one more day won't hurt anyone, no matter what the result is.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. It all ends on Wednesday.
Post by: Tyrias on January 14, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
Yeah, I think the next roulette has started already anyway, so take your time. Of course, you can always decide you like both songs equally and have two winners, but I guess that would kind of destroy the point of the extra round ::).
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Sacul on January 16, 2015, 01:47:20 PM
Ok guys this was really tough because both your songs sucked were amazing, and it took me a bit of time to decide.


Dredg - The Canyon Behind Her (Tyrias)
With just a few misses and lots of hits, you really got what I like, and made me discover some great music (the Brand New album, gosh). So props for getting up to the top, and to this final duel. Now to the tune.
I like the post-rock atmosphere of this song, wonderful. And the chorus, dude. Superb. The singer has an unusual (at least for me) voice, but does an excellent job. The only complaint I have is the weird breakdown in the middle, it kind of breaks the flow. But it gets great again after that. The last two minutes are just glorious. Will check this album and band - amazing choice man. 9/10


Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (Evermind)
So, although our tastes agree on very few things, you played smartly and managed to get to the top of the ranking. Props for taking advantage of the special points and risking yourself several times, cause it paid off, huh? Ok, now to the song.
It's difficult for me to say what I like so much of this. It might be the brilliant piano work, or the flow it has - few songs I know have that natural feeling, that everything it's on it's place. The chemistry between this musicians and how it feels like a jam it's just mind-blowing. Great ending. My only complaint is that it could have some trimming here and there. But it's an excellent piece of music. 9/10


Due to ranking issues, your marks are the same. And your songs are really similar in awesomeness, so I just chose the one I liked most. It was no easy thing, but by a very, really small microscopic margin (and because I have to choose just one, not both or this extra round would have been pointless), the winner is...
















Kevin Moore :neverusethis:






























 :hefdaddy :tup :metal EVERMIND! :metal :tup :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Elite on January 16, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
The Canyon Behind Her is my favourite song ever. Good job.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Evermind on January 16, 2015, 02:14:19 PM
Wow, I actually won a roulette! Wow! Wheee! No, sorry, I'm perfectly fine, thank you.

So, although our tastes agree on very few things, you played smartly and managed to get to the top of the ranking. Props for taking advantage of the special points and risking yourself several times, cause it paid off, huh? Ok, now to the song.

Yeah man, I felt I wasn't going to meet your taste on music, so I tried to play indeed for the points, and well, it paid off. Although it's not like I didn't send you great tunes, you've got to check out that Mark Knopfler album, David Gilmour solo work and Jon Lord's Sarabande (which ranked at 5 because of not fitting the theme, which means it's actually 8), so I think I've done quite well in this department. Oh, and that Wheel of Time song too.

Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (Evermind)

It's difficult for me to say what I like so much of this. It might be the brilliant piano work, or the flow it has - few songs I know have that natural feeling, that everything it's on it's place. The chemistry between this musicians and how it feels like a jam it's just mind-blowing. Great ending. My only complaint is that it could have some trimming here and there. But it's an excellent piece of music. 9/10

Yes, you actually summed up the reason I like this song so much in just one word, "natural". It's just unbelievable how naturally this whole fourteen-minutes-long beast unfolds, and it's not even an epic or something like that, just the usual song telling the story. I love it to pieces, and it really warms my heart to see you loved it too. Dire Straits are just so amazing, I have no words.

And, well, of course, thank you for running this, I had a blast! Of course some of that blast has to do with me actually winning the thing, because it's my first win in the roulettes, but even if I wouldn't have won, that was a very classy roulette, with great pace and nice write-ups and structure. I'm looking forward to v2, if you will ever decide hosting it.

And, again, of course, the last but not least, nice job Tyrias! I actually haven't heard the song you've sent for the final round, but I'm going to fix that right now.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Tyrias on January 16, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
So close! Well, I guess I'll have to continue waiting for my first roulette win, this is the second time I end up second by a little margin (I think it was 0,5 points last time  :lol). Anyway, I had lots of fun playing and I hope I helped you discover lots of new great artists! (You are right, that Brand New album is indeed amazing, probably in my top 10 albums ever. So is El Cielo by dredg, so make sure you check it out!).

The Canyon Behind Her is my favourite song ever. Good job.
It's not my favourite by any means, but that doesn't mean it's not an absolutely spectacular song (even more in the context of the album). I can certainly see where you're coming from.

Wow, I actually won a roulette! Wow! Wheee! No, sorry, I'm perfectly fine, thank you.


And, again, of course, the last but not least, nice job Tyrias! I actually haven't heard the song you've sent for the final round, but I'm going to fix that right now.

Congratulations to you! And I haven't heard your song either, but I'll definetely listen to it (if only to see what I lost against ;) )!

What I'm still curious about is which song you liked better initially, Sacul.
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Sacul on January 16, 2015, 03:49:10 PM
At first, I liked your song a bit more. But as I said, later I realised how great the Dire Straits tune was, and took me a few days to choose. Congrats to the both of you - whenever I can do a v2, I want you two to participate again ;) .


Also, so much thanks to everyone else. Each of you has made me discover at least a great album/artist. Seriously, even those ones with a low ranking have sent me some great stuff. Thanks for helping me dig my to-listen list, which now is enormous (500+ albums - fuck, those are too much), and making me discover new genres. I hope to play in your roulettes if you host one eventually.


So yeah, keep being awesome guys :metal .
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: Tom Bombadil on January 16, 2015, 06:38:09 PM
Thanks for being a good host, Sacul! This was fun  :metal
Title: Re: The Controversial Roulette v. And the winner is...
Post by: mikemangioy on January 16, 2015, 11:21:52 PM
Yaaay I was rooting for EverMind  :lol

Anyways, it's been fun. Like every roulette.  :metal