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Title: Top 25 Video Games Lists! v. CableX's "Worse Than My Top25 VG Music" (pg. 62)
Post by: Sacul on May 22, 2014, 08:41:47 AM
The music forum has lots of top 50s with albums, so why not do the same with video games? The thing is: you make a list of your 25 all-time fav games, write something about why that game made it to your top and try to update the list daily if possible. Just like the top 50 threads. Because 25 games aren't so much, with one list running at time we'll be fine. This OP is to keep track of the lists, make statistic with the rankings, link to past tops, etc. If you want to sign up for this, send me a PM and I'll add you to the waiting list.

Read before posting
To post your list, reply this thread with your updates - this means the lists will be run only on this post. This is intended to avoid another threads on this sub-forum. I'll send you a PM to tell you when you can start with your top. Also, try to finish it within or less than a month.

Finished Lists
Dark Castle - Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh* (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1810582#msg1810582) (May - July 2014)
Scorpion - The age of the Scorpion (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1830763#msg1830763) (July 2014)
Genowyn - Japan: The List (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1838048#msg1838048) (July - August 2014)
Big Hath - Retro Time! (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1844211#msg1844211) (September - October 2014)
The King in Crimson's time to rule (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1872502#msg1872502) (October - November 2014)
Ourcrier's fav games and whatever (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1911086#msg1911086) (January - February 2015)
It's-a me, ReaperKK! (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1925527#msg1925527) (February - March 2015)
All Hail Zantera and his list! (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1940371#msg1940371) (March - April 2015)
Another controversial list (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1944207#msg1944207) (April - May 2015)
cramx3's "Chillest of the Chill" list (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1962739#msg1962739) (May - July 2015)
Randaran's randy list (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1983174#msg1983174) (July 2015)
Lynxo's "It hurts when I poo" list (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1992000#msg1992000) (August - September 2015)
OpenYourEyes311's "(Lack of) Variety is the Spice of Life" (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2009391#msg2009391) (September - November 2015)
Accelerando's Princess Is In Another Castle (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2043310#msg2043310) (November 2015 - January 2016)
jingle.boy: Rise of the Fogey (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2074161#msg2074161) (January - March 2016)
CableX's "Worse Than My Top25 VG Music"
 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2139772#msg2139772)
(April 2016 - Present)

On the 5th Dimension
SystematicThought's Obscure stuff (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg1890659#msg1890659) (November 2014 - ??? )

Waiting List

CableX
BlobVanDam
Jarlaxle
adace

Will go in the future
Evermind
Full Speed
Parama
Sycsa


DTF's fav games
(http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/Roadrunner-Records-Logo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2014, 08:50:30 AM
This is a pretty cool idea for a list. I'll follow this.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Dark Castle on May 22, 2014, 10:46:36 AM
So when does the madness begin?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on May 22, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D_IAwpYOtIY/UD9uSlN0FvI/AAAAAAAASyk/p811MHVpg9g/s1600/4c_pressstartlogo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Dark Castle on May 22, 2014, 10:56:31 AM
Well if I've got the go ahead, I'll have some shit up as the day progresses.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: TioJorge on May 22, 2014, 11:29:54 AM
Watching! Waiting! Commiserating!


Those little dweebs.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Cool Chris on May 22, 2014, 11:50:15 AM
Cool idea. Will follow.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on May 22, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
Definitely following.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!(Dark Castle Up YOOOOOOOOOO)
Post by: Dark Castle on May 22, 2014, 01:32:09 PM
25.) Borderlands (2010)
(http://i.imgur.com/tdYuDOW.jpg)

One of my first xbox 360 games that I ever owned, Borderlands starts off my list in style. The game exploded with popularity, not only due to it’s extremely fun co-op friendly gameplay and story, but also it’s dope art style. The first time I played this game I was blazed down at my bio dads house, my brother in law and I docking around for hours, and I just had a blast. I came back home with a 360, some controllers, and my friends and I formed up multiple files to trudge through. I think this is my favorite entry in the series, despite the 2nd having a more unique feel, Borderlands holds the most memories of my friends and I doing nothing but going on road rampages, and many many other stupid as shit things. Also that final battle was pretty intense.

Overall: An insanely fun game that gave me and my friends many, many hours of enjoyment.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: ReaperKK on May 22, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
I will be following this!

Can you put me on the waiting list?

I don't play too many current games so my list my be a bit retro.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on May 22, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
I will be following this!

Can you put me on the waiting list?

I don't play too many current games so my list my be a bit retro.

heh, yeah my list is going to be A LOT retro
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: ReaperKK on May 22, 2014, 02:32:14 PM
One of the best coop games I ever played was boarderlands 2. I have the first game but never got around to playing it, maybe some day. . . .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: snapple on May 22, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
too bad 2 tried to turn itself into something that the original bl wasn't. (example, RAID BOSSES)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on May 22, 2014, 03:12:33 PM
Add me to the list please.

My list will be "retro" as well.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Genowyn on May 22, 2014, 03:44:23 PM
Do visual novels count as games?

And for series where each iteration is pretty much the same as the last one, is everyone cool with just giving the whole series as an entry? (For example, not that this would be in my list, but could someone just put "Madden NFL", or should they try to decide which game in the series is best?)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: Sacul on May 22, 2014, 03:49:54 PM
Add me to the list please.
No problem.

Do visual novels count as games?
Like Heavy Rain? While it has some gameplay, yes, it counts as a video game.

Never played Borderlands, but always heard about it. It must be really fun and difficult - so sad that I suck at video games :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle's amazing list.
Post by: Genowyn on May 22, 2014, 04:00:45 PM
Not really like Heavy Rain, like these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukihime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEINS;GATE

Basically just text, images, voice acting in newer ones, usually you make choices that influence the plot, but some of them have no choices at all or very few.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle's amazing list.
Post by: Sacul on May 22, 2014, 04:09:05 PM
If you consider them as video games, sure, include them on your list.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread!
Post by: The King in Crimson on May 22, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
Sweet.

Can you put me in the waiting list too?

Do visual novels count as games?

And for series where each iteration is pretty much the same as the last one, is everyone cool with just giving the whole series as an entry? (For example, not that this would be in my list, but could someone just put "Madden NFL", or should they try to decide which game in the series is best?)
Personally, I think you should try to narrow it down to one game. That's kinda like putting "Opeth" in your top favorite albums list. Even if the games are all the same, I'd think one should stand out more than the rest, even if it's just for nostalgic reasons or because the story is better or the box art has more tits on it is better than the others. But that's just me.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on May 22, 2014, 08:20:42 PM
24.) Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (2009)
(http://i.imgur.com/F7pKvYA.png)

Double.Motherfucking.Rangers.
That enough explains my love for this game, which just so happened to be my first online shooter. The maps online are absolutely brilliant, and every once and awhile I still go back to this game, which magically somehow still has some excellent online. Probably the last Call of Duty entry to really push the series forward, this one is just a blast to play, especially with friends. We would play offline, and just dick around all night long, it never got boring. And online once we all got that shit hooked up, we were unstoppable, and annoying. The DLC maps were actually really rad as well.
On top of the amazing online the campaign was intense. Many missions had you, gripping your heart with drama, action, and all the intensity.

Overall: A game that deserves a spot in the running for "Best FPS EVVA". It ain't my personal best, but I sure as fuck won't judge or question you if it's yours.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Scorpion on May 22, 2014, 10:30:59 PM
I always preferred CoD 4: MW to MW2, but that's mainly due to the fact that it was the first FPS that I played with friends, and MW2 is unquestionably brilliant as well.

Haven't played Borderlands yet... something I really should do, considering that pretty much everyone that I know loves the shit out of this game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: ReaperKK on May 23, 2014, 06:45:17 AM
Can't say much about this game because the I've only played a few CoD's.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Zantera on May 23, 2014, 06:48:37 AM
I've never played Borderlands (shame I know) and I'm not a fan of the CoD games at all. I know they are pretty popular, but despite playing the first CoD when it came out, as well as the first few Battlefield games, that "genre" never did it for me. I love plenty of FPS games, and I play CS:GO on a daily basis, but those "war" games just don't do much for me.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Tom Bombadil on May 23, 2014, 08:13:22 AM
The last good CoD game. Probably about the same place I'd put it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Big Hath on May 23, 2014, 08:33:02 AM
MW2 is so good.  One of the few "modern" games that will likely make my list (because I haven't played very many).
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on May 23, 2014, 09:41:50 AM
Borderlands is awesome. CODMW2, not a big fan of. I used to play the hell out of those games, especially 4 and WAW. I guess I just burned out on those around the time of MW2, so I couldn't really get into it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on May 23, 2014, 12:12:44 PM
23.) The Lawnmower Man (1993)
(http://i.imgur.com/otpkegg.jpg)

Most likely one of the games I've put the most time into, it's an arcade styled platformer that my grandparents had for their Snes, and I absolutely loved it. I've never seen the movie, but this game is soooooo much fun. In all honesty there's not really much that sets this game apart from any other 2d platformer of the era, I just happened to play it all the time when I was little and for that, it has my eternal love.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: ReaperKK on May 23, 2014, 07:28:43 PM
I remember seeing that cover when I was little at blockbuster!!!

Never played the game or saw the movie (I heard the movie was a trip)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Zook on May 23, 2014, 07:33:43 PM
Back when R rated movies were smash hits with toys and game adaptions aimed for kids.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on May 24, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
22.) Vanquish (2010)
(http://i.imgur.com/gb5LVnh.jpg)

I didn't get this game when it first came out, I didn't really notice it in all honesty, but when I finally got to it a couple years ago, I wish I had known about it. It's a 3rd person shooter that's got you on your heels the entire time with it's breakneck pace. You also have to be smart with your ammo, because if you run out you are boned. The story's kind of silly, but at the same time, taking down Space Russia is the most radical thing ever.

If you liked the Gears of War series you'll most definitely enjoy this game. If you don't, like me, you'll enjoy this game, it's a faster in it's gameplay compared to Gears of War, which I just find dreadfully slow.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on May 24, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Never heard of the last 2 games, but MW2 is really amazing for it's genre. What a pity it's too short :censored
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Scorpion on May 24, 2014, 07:27:04 PM
Vanquish is pretty cool. It's not one of my favourite FPS games, but it's definitely very entertaining - which is all I really ask from a video game, at any rate - anything on top of that is just bonus.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on May 27, 2014, 04:08:10 PM
It's definitely very entertaining - which is all I really ask from a video game, at any rate.
I think that's what video games are about, entertaining - maybe telling a story or just jumping over Goombas. Btw, still waiting for the update, yo.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on May 27, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
Will get one tomorrow, I'm in class and after class I have to finish a project worth 30% of my grade for this class.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: TioJorge on May 27, 2014, 04:26:51 PM
WE DON'T NEED YOUR GOD DAMN EXCUSES, WE WANT GAMES. C'MON, ERBODY!

WE WANT GAMES
WE WANT GAMES
WE WANT GAMES
WE WANT GAMES


RAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIVA LA RESISTANCE!

/wolfendogs
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: ReaperKK on May 27, 2014, 04:54:39 PM
Never heard of Vanquish, I'm going to have to check out some gameplay footage.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on May 28, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
21.) Commando (1985)
(http://i.imgur.com/8EaQ6xZ.jpg)

This is another game I spent a lot of my childhood playing while I was at my grandparent's house. I even own it for myself these days as well. It's a top down shooter that's absolutely nuts, bullets are flying everywhere, enemy men are running every which way, and grenades are flying bruh. I think I've beaten it once or twice as a little sprout, but this game is tough for me, even these days. In the end it's a fun game that does a good job of giving a glimpse at the chaos of a battlefield. Nothing overly amazing, but it's a fun way to spend a few hours. And as a kid that's what's up.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on May 29, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
Another classic game I've never played. Is it like Contra?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Cool Chris on May 29, 2014, 03:31:45 PM
I always forget I hate one-listing-per-day Top XX threads.

Good game for nostaliga, but not one I would get through more than 5 minutes of these days. I don't think I was even sure this game had an ending. I've sure never seen it.

I would place it somewhere between Contra and Ikari Warriors. A shoot-em-up that isn't as fun and diverse as the former, but much more enjoyable than the similarly-styled latter.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Scorpion on May 30, 2014, 08:56:01 PM
Not really on the topic of DC's list, but I'm thankful for the existance of this list already, because it made me revisit three games from one of, if not my favourite, gaming franchise.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Scorpion on June 01, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
How 'bout an update, DC?
Title: I only started following this thread a few days ago anyway.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on June 01, 2014, 09:17:20 PM
Yeah, Dork Castle! You fucker!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on June 02, 2014, 05:31:18 PM
Are you still alive?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on June 02, 2014, 05:50:25 PM
(http://www.laboralcentrodearte.org/en/recursos/obras/super-mario-sleeping/leadImage_preview)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 02, 2014, 05:54:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ujIhwEP.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: TioJorge on June 02, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Really though... you should have your list ready and if not typed out, then a general gist of what you want to say before you start posting. On that note, we should definitely have a limit to how long this shit should take. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO MASTURBATE TO A FULL LIST OF GAMES THAT OTHERS HAVE GRACIOUSLY SHOWN.

Srsly, I'm not stressing it at all, but I imagine that others who have their lists ready in some form are being left out. I'd rather see a list that's been thought out and a bit more expansive rather then 'this is my nostalgia porn'. No offense to DC...but it's kinda ridonkulous; I doubt the next write up will be any more than what's already been posted.

I'll eventually get in on this but I was hoping to get some inspiration before hand. Eh.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on June 02, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
On that note, we should definitely have a limit to how long this shit should take.
I say no more than a month. I hope you can complete your list before June 22th or I will kick your ass the next user will start it's own, no matter if you've finished or not.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on June 02, 2014, 08:45:33 PM
Quit yur' yapping you curr, can't really make posts if I'm banned can I?
 :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 02, 2014, 08:46:02 PM
Oh right.. I read the NHL thread earlier and I guess I didn't put 2 and 2 together :rollin
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on June 02, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
This will continue until the 11th, and then take a break until the 16th, BECAUSE GUESS WHO'S GOING TO BONNAROO?!?!?!?!

I should be able to finish it, I've got my choices lined up.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 02, 2014, 08:59:54 PM
Who's going to Bonnaroo?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on June 02, 2014, 09:03:40 PM
20. Total War Shogun 2 (2011)
(http://i.imgur.com/5Vh6VO6.jpg)

Wow I'm pretty mediocre at RTS's and generally they don't keep my interest. I guess you could say this is one of the very few that do, and part of that is because I love Feudal era Japanese history. Samurai were my biggest obsession alongside otters growing up, and being able to command entire GAWT DANGED armies of them is like my personal wet dream. Not to mention the visuals are simply gorgeous and the strategy involved in fueling a successful campaign is pretty darn fun to figure out. I suck at the online, partially because I don't have the DLC and end up going against armies with cannons and rifles while I'm going full feudal style  :lol but that doesn't deter me from playing online every once and awhile. I'm pretty sure Total War is also one of the established franchises in the genre so I'm sure the quality of their games is well known.

Anyways if you're a samurai freak like me, this is as close as it gets right now to living the dream.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on June 02, 2014, 09:59:42 PM
Srsly, I'm not stressing it at all, but I imagine that others who have their lists ready in some form are being left out. I'd rather see a list that's been thought out and a bit more expansive rather then 'this is my nostalgia porn'. No offense to DC...but it's kinda ridonkulous; I doubt the next write up will be any more than what's already been posted.

Sorry that some of my favorite games happen to coincide with my childhood and that the others don't really take 5 paragraphs to explain.
You can expect more lengthy write ups further up the lists, I don't want to waste your time with my "nostalgia porn"  :\

Anywho, onwards.

19. Tecmo Super Bowl (1991)
(http://i.imgur.com/Unaf2Cw.jpg)

Watch out, it's another game I played a bunch in my childhood and even today! Tecmo Super Bowl has kept me entertained through rainy afternoons, super boring classes, and lonely evenings. It pretty much improved upon everything from the previous Tecmo Bowl, not only game wise but the fact that you could play as actual NFL teams with the actual rosters of the time. It also just so happened most of my favorite teams were pretty good at the time, so I could play as the Bills, and destroy any team with the rush offense, or play as the Chiefs and Mcfuck you up. It was also annoyingly awesome that with each win the game got more and more frustratingly difficult, not only by making it nearly impossible to pass, but also impossible to defend, so when you were able to pull of that deep pass, sack the QB, or intercept the ball, you felt like a fucking champ. The game also simply does not get old, I have popped this game on so many times, and I keep coming back because it never loses it's entertainment.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 02, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
DC, I want your writeups to be however you feel. Hell, all my top 50 albums review was nothing but nostalgic memories. That's fine. Don't make a writeup for others, do it for yourself.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: TioJorge on June 02, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
Aww... I didn't mean anything offensive by it, nostalgia plays a big part in reviewing games we grew up on, naturally. I was just saying I'd like to hear more about why you love these games, not just that you like them and then an explanation of the game itself. It was a meager critique, I wasn't bashing you; also...5 paragraphs? Hardly. But yeah, I'd like a little more than a couple sentences.

I suppose it's not my place. Apparently it worked though, because I thought the last two write-ups were a lot better.  :P And yay to Shogun; very fun game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 02, 2014, 11:16:13 PM
A list without a Tecmo Bowl is an invalid list.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: The King in Crimson on June 03, 2014, 08:12:43 AM
A list without a Tecmo Bowl is an invalid list.
Well I guess I'm out.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on June 03, 2014, 08:40:15 AM
A list without a Tecmo Bowl is an invalid list.
I've been looking into lots of top 100 all-time video game lists recently, and I'm surprised by how many times does that game appear.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Big Hath on June 03, 2014, 08:43:49 AM
it's certainly going to be in my list
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 03, 2014, 10:31:06 AM
I'll add the qualifier of "and you are from N. America" to my previous claim.  It is a bit unfair to expect people in Europe to know the Bo Jackson or Barry Sanders rule.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Genowyn on June 03, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
A list without a Tecmo Bowl is an invalid list.
Well I guess I'm out.

Same. I'm from North America even.

Sports games suck.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: TioJorge on June 03, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
I'm with Gen. I've never had a good time playing a sports game, even with friends. There'd always be the one dude who thinks he's a superstar while playing it (similar to the Guitar Hero phenomenon); but the rest of us would always end up overruling him and playing Mario Kart or Smash.  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: The King in Crimson on June 03, 2014, 07:00:37 PM
I'll add the qualifier of "and you are from N. America" to my previous claim.
This helps me not.

Quote
It is a bit unfair to expect people in Europe to know the Bo Jackson or Barry Sanders rule.
Those guys played hockey right? :neverusethis:

A list without a Tecmo Bowl is an invalid list.
Well I guess I'm out.

Same. I'm from North America even.

Sports games suck.
Indeed. Football games are probably the absolute worst of them all though. Someone thought it was a good idea to transplant the tedium of watching football, amplify it by 1000 and then male you play football?  Fuck that guy.  I've played some hockey and soccer (read: Euro Football) games that are a lot of fun, football videogames are like fun-arsenic.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 03, 2014, 09:12:36 PM
3 updates tomorrow I drunk promise.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 03, 2014, 09:35:32 PM
Aww fuck, so zero updates tomorrow.  :lol :P
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 03, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
Bruh, I just overcame a naked mile challenge on my first shot, you guys deserve 3 updates.   :rollin
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 04, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
You got drunk off your first shot? :lol
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 04, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Many beer pong games later, my friend and I upped the ante. 1 cup each, across the living room, 2 shots, if you made it the other had to run around the apartment in their boxers, I sank it first shot.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 04, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
18. Bayonetta (2010)
(http://i.imgur.com/57f3MwP.png)
A game that sparked a bit of controversy around the internet due to the lead characters' design, Bayonetta is a game that I find to be a damn good DMC styled game, through the gameplay and humor. The combat is ultra smooth and you'll find yourself getting into a real rhythm the more you play, and it feels good. The visuals are pretty tight as well and the game is an enjoyable ride.
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Post by: Scorpion on June 04, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Never played this one, but the moment that I saw the heroine on the cover, I knew that I had seen this game somewhere, and it just came to me again: my dad played this. Weird.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 04, 2014, 09:13:33 PM
17. Devil May Cry (2013)
(http://i.imgur.com/FoYWzms.jpg)

I looooooooooooove Devil May Cry, and I loooooooooooove this reboot. His redesign looks pretty radular, and as opposed to many who bitched about his new hair, I really liked it. Anywho let's talk about something other than that beef cake. I love the gameplay from this series, and it's top notch on this release, combos flying every which way as you slash and hack your way through hordes of enemies with a variety of weapons, each and every one having different feel to it. On top of all that, the game looks absolutely fantastic. The story is also pretty cool, no spoilers from me, and the humor is the kind we've come to expect and love from Devil May Cry. If you're a cool dude, you probably enjoy this series, and if you've never played any games from the series, you should give it a try!
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 04, 2014, 09:34:40 PM
16. Two Worlds (2007)
(http://i.imgur.com/z1Nprvz.jpg)

THIS GAME. THIIIIIIIS GAME. It's one of the most ridiculously "hilarious in a not meant to be hilarious way" I've ever played. The gameplay's actually incredibly tight, combat is ridiculously fun and you'll find yourself duking it out with dragons for what can amount to a half hour. And you can actually do some pretty amazing stuff with weapons, such as stacking weapons with the same name and stacking elemental damage on top of that to make these monster slamma jamma weapons of mass destruction. But where you really fall in love with this game is the hilarious dialogue, especially of the character you play as. And the visuals are actually pretty tight, especially for an early 360 game, although it's also the reason the game can stutter pretty badly at times, they really pushed their limits with this sumbitch.

"IT'S WET", shouted out enthusiastically when you jump into a body of water,
"BANDITS!" when you come across a group of wild bears or paladins of a holy order.

Honestly you really need to experience all of this for yourself, it's dirt cheap and you will find yourself being entertained for many weeks.
So go get it YOU NANCIES.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 04, 2014, 10:39:19 PM
Nice, awesome to see DMC!! I adore the reboot and really hope they continue with it. Glad to know there's at least one other person who likes his design; I got so much shit from friends who are fans of the series that abhorred everything about the reboot and I was the complete opposite. Right down to the look of the game and the awesomely metal soundtrack (DAT COMBICHRIST), it all screams DMC, but a fresh new take on the whole thing. I just remembered though that it was a prequel so...I dunno how they'd continue; but if they do a sequel, I really hope it's the same team because that game is by far my favorite of the series.

I've never actually played Two Worlds but I watched a friend play and yeah, it's pretty hilarious...but I don't think I could play it and still enjoy it. Awesomely fun to watch, especially after partaking.
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Post by: Sacul on June 07, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
I've always heard about DMC but never came to play it. Is the 4th a good starting point for the series?
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 08, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
15. Animal Crossing: New Leaf (2013)
(http://i.imgur.com/WkPy0zN.jpg)

Animal Crossing: New Leaf is a game that you may put down for a while, but always come back to, guaranteed. Like the rest of the games in this series, New Leaf is an incredibly addicting game where really all you do is average things, such as fishing, bug catching, swimming, cleaning up garbage, and shopping. Oh yeah and you can find fossils, attend concerts, the fish you catch are radical, as are the bugs, etc. It's a simple game that has a whole buttload of charm to it, personalizing your house with various random objects, designing your own clothes, which other neighbors might start wearing makes you feel really proud inside, especially when they tell you your design is dope. I also like the addition of being the mayor in this game, makes me have a sense of duty to make the best town I can for the other residents and myself.

So if you have some free time and who are we kidding, we all have a little bit of it, this is a cozy little game to spend that free time on.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 08, 2014, 03:00:22 PM
Love the Animal Crossing series, and New Leaf was the best them. Like you said, I haven't played it for months, but one day when I'm on a road trip, I'll definitely see how many weeds I have to clean up and how many of my peeps moved out.  :lol :'( Classic, laid back gaming at it's best (only rivaled by the almost equally awesome Harvest Moon series...which has a new 3DS game coming out soon!)
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on June 08, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
Still no ET :tdwn
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 09, 2014, 01:21:21 AM
Still no ET :tdwn

Dude, it is clearly going to #1, why do you think they made so many copies of the game?
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Post by: ReaperKK on June 09, 2014, 07:27:05 AM
A lot of games I haven't played, still following!
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Post by: Big Hath on June 09, 2014, 09:14:34 AM
Still no ET :tdwn

Dude, it is clearly going to #1, why do you think they made so many copies of the game?

heh, I still have mine
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Post by: masterthes on June 09, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
ET is the best game of all time. Of course it's going to be number 1





















 :rollin














 :|
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Post by: Sacul on June 10, 2014, 04:07:27 PM
I'd be very disappointed if ET isn't on the top 5 :sadpanda:
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 10, 2014, 04:25:35 PM
14. Grand Theft Auto V (2013)
(http://i.imgur.com/XKe0WDx.png)

Well it's getting a facelift for the Xbox One (Yay!) and PS4, and that'll be fantastic, but this game already is incredible. It's a HUGE step up from IV, in terms of exploration, driving, things to do, and really every thing about it is just better period. The map is frickin gigantic, and there's never a spot with nothing to do. THere's golfing, skydiving, racing, hunting, submarine searches, you name it, you're not trying very hard if you can't find anything to do. On top of all of that, Rockstar really brought forth a fantastic story, one that keeps you engaged all throughout, and getting to switch between different characters was a very radical decision, each character has their own personality and that also transitions into how you play the game(at least for me)

Overall: This is a gam eyou should play, it's nuts, it's fantastic, and it's incredibly engaging.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 10, 2014, 04:57:00 PM
I can't WAIT to play this when it releases on PC. It's about time.
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Post by: Bolsters on June 10, 2014, 09:55:11 PM
I can't WAIT to play this when it releases on PC. It's about time.
:2metal:
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Post by: Scorpion on June 10, 2014, 09:58:30 PM
I was never too big on the GTA series. I don't know why - I love open world, I love random violence, but I just never really enjoyed the series. That said I only know GTA II and GTA San Andreas, so I might give this one a spin some day.
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Post by: Bolsters on June 10, 2014, 10:10:40 PM
Besides GTA 2 back in its day a little bit, I was never really a fan of the pre-SA GTA games. SA I actually hated at first, it took me about seven or eight years to give it a second chance where I finally saw some appreciation for it. But it's not exactly the best of the series and it is now quite dated.

Having said all that though, GTA IV is one of my favourite open world third-person shooter games ever, and the two DLCs are great aswell, so I couldn't recommend it enough to anyone who does enjoy these open world games. I've not played GTA V myself so no comment there, but going by its reputation I'd say that there are at least two games in the series that may appeal to you.
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Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 02:37:09 AM
GTA V really is incredible.

I've been a huge GTA fan since the old days. Even since before they went third person shooter. My first exposure to GTA was when I got GTA 2 on PS1 for my birthday when I was 7 or 8. My dad picked it because he thought it seemed "fun".  :P I don't think my mom had approved if she knew what it was, but I had some fun times in it. I don't necessarily recall doing missions in that game, I just played around and enjoyed the "being free" aspect. When GTA 3 came out, me and my friend were blown away by how good it was, and what a pleasant change it was. Vice City continued that trend, and San Andreas was the game I played the most. I liked 4, but I found myself getting bored of that one easier. I completed it once, but unlike previous games I did not complete it several times.

With all the hype and buzz for 5, I was so excited and had so high hopes. GTA V managed to live up to them. What an incredible game. In many ways it really is the best GTA game, and one of THE best games ever made. There are so many things I loved about it, that it would take too long for me to get into detail, but what a game.  :hefdaddy
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Post by: Bolsters on June 11, 2014, 04:08:16 AM
I could never get into GTA 3 or Vice City. Sure I would run around crashing cars into shit and killing people if I went to a friend's house and the game was on, but I had no inclination to get them for myself. They were just "fuck-around for a few minutes at a time" games to me. GTA 2 was the same, I never actually did anything of consequence in it. SA was the same until I gave it a proper chance one day, and found myself doing the missions and stuff. I can't see myself ever going back to it though.

GTA IV was when shit got real for me, so I'm very much looking forward to the GTA V PC release.
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Post by: ReaperKK on June 11, 2014, 12:26:27 PM
I can't WAIT to play this when it releases on PC. It's about time.

Lets hope it's a much better port than GTAIV was.

I really like the GTA series and V is a great game however it didn't really grab me in the way Vice City or IV did, I don't know what it is. I found both Michael and Franklin to be kind of dull./
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 11, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
No update for awhile guys, I'm off to Bonnaroo
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Post by: Outcrier on June 11, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
I can't WAIT to play this when it releases on PC. It's about time.

Lets hope it's a much better port than GTAIV was.

Yeah, GTAIV lags a lot in my PC, one that can play most recent games in max settings without framedrops. Hope that they don't do a poor optimization again.
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Post by: Bolsters on June 11, 2014, 10:03:01 PM
I can't WAIT to play this when it releases on PC. It's about time.
Lets hope it's a much better port than GTAIV was.
Yeah, GTAIV lags a lot in my PC, one that can play most recent games in max settings without framedrops. Hope that they don't do a poor optimization again.
The engine could have been optimised a bit better, but at least the PC port of GTA IV was functionally really good. I'm playing Watch Dogs right now and it's incredibly fucking annoying how little attention to detail there was in the port to PC. A few things that are irritating about it:

- Mouse aim has some slight input lag, and even though there are articles online instructing how to "fix" the problem, they don't. I'm normally a great shot, but if something is far away or moving too fast I have trouble hitting the body, let alone the head. There's a bullet-time function that alleviates the problem a bit in firefights but this still pisses me off.
- There's an aim-assist, and while you can select three different magnitutes for it, you can't actually turn it off, which makes aiming at things even more difficult.
- The mouse cursor in menus moves ridiculously fast, and if you turn up camera/aim sensitivity the speed and distance the mouse cursor moves increases with it. I like high sensitivity, so the mouse cursor just behaves stupidly in the menus for me.
- Some menus use the mouse to select things, and there's no option to use arrow keys or WASD instead. But, there's no cursor. Basically if you want to move from one option to another, you have to move the mouse a certain distance to get it to move. If you want to move to the option next to it, you have to move the mouse that same distance again. So it's not like the cursor is just invisible, because that would still be somewhat intuitive. Instead it just feels really strange and clunky to navigate that way.

These sorts of things could be patched I guess, but they haven't been yet and this is the state Ubisoft launched the game. But at least I know Rockstar's port of GTA V won't be as shit-tastically annoying as this.
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Post by: Sacul on June 14, 2014, 11:23:26 AM
These sorts of things could be patched I guess, but they haven't been yet and this is the state Ubisoft launched the game.
I haven't played it yet, but I've heard things like this, along with lots of bugs. If they took a few months to improve the game, why is the port so poor?
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 17, 2014, 09:36:38 AM
13. Batman: Arkham City (2011)
(http://i.imgur.com/Q0100ux.jpg)

This game right here sucked up a lot of my life for awhile, a gorgeous presentation of the Batman universe, lovingly crafted to give you a raging bat boner. This game is pretty amazing in all aspects, the graphics are gorgeous, the characters are crafted with fantastic attention to details, the gameplay is super tight, the story is marvelous, and it never gets boring. I could and still do spend hours just gliding across the Cityscape, beating up thugs and looking for hidden secrets, to 100% the game. There's really nothing about this game that drags on, there's always something to do, whether it's the marvelous main story, the side missions that shed light onto other characters in the universe, or just all of the secrets you can find nestled away in city. The gameplay is similar to Assassin's Creed, in that once you get going, it's hard to die, but unlike Assassin's Creed sometimes could get, it never gets old, you can really feel the impact of the hits you land, and if you do mess up, you will pay for it.

Overall, if you haven't played this game, for the love of god, go out and get it ya big dummy.
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Post by: Scorpion on June 17, 2014, 02:26:32 PM
Arkham City is awesome. The moment when I was in the museum and about twenty thugs stormed me and I took all of them out without losing the combo is still one of the gaming moments that I remember most fondly. Absolutely love the game - I think I even got all the side missions... though I never managed to get all Riddler trophies. :(
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Post by: ariich on June 17, 2014, 02:39:41 PM
Finally a game I know!

Great choice as well. I enjoyed the first one fine, but everything was tighter and slicker in City.
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Post by: Scorpion on June 17, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
Yeah, Arkham City just takes everything that was great about Arkham Asylum, puts it in a bigger world and leaves out the bad stuff (of which there was, admittedly, not a lot, but still).
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Post by: Sacul on June 17, 2014, 04:21:54 PM
So much people talk great things about the Arkam series - I should play them. Do they have a common storyline?
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Post by: TioJorge on June 17, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
Nice! City is my favorite open-world game of the recent generation of games.

They do, Sacul, but AA just adds to the story if you play it, there's absolutely no actual need to play the first one, in my opinion. AC is absolutely an upgrade in every way and the story of the Asylum can be read and previewed by synopses in City. I still play it after 100% completion; there's so much shit to do it's almost endless. Oh, and the costumes are absolutely awesome; It's just too cool flying around as the Green Lantern Bat, there's a bunch of options. Also, I really liked playing as Catwoman a lot more than I thought I would. Add on top of all that a New Game + mode and it's one of the most exhilarating and fun open-world games out there. I still enjoy running around in it more than I do in Watch Dogs or GTAIV (anticipating V's PC release).
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Post by: Bolsters on June 17, 2014, 10:00:24 PM
I tried Arkham City out, but couldn't get into it. I found the combat pretty boring because it's so easy, and the plot seemed to be nothing but forced excuse after excuse to give another Batman villian a cameo in the game.
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Post by: ReaperKK on June 19, 2014, 03:52:24 PM
I've only played asylum, I have city but I haven't touched it (picked it up in the WB humble bundle pack), can't wait to try it out.
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Post by: Sacul on June 19, 2014, 08:31:42 PM
I have city but I haven't touched it
Now that I remember, I got it free for my PS3 :facepalm: - will start it soon.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 19, 2014, 09:43:49 PM
Excellent game.  'City' becoming open world rocked.  Great story, great side missions, great enhancements to 'Asylum'.

'Origins' has been sitting in the wrapper downstairs just begging to be played for quite a while.

Oh, and sign me up for this.  Should be a few months before it's my turn.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 19, 2014, 11:33:59 PM
  Should be a few months before it's my turn.

Hate to say it, but years at this pace.  Zantera is spoiling us with his bands list.
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Post by: SystematicThought on June 20, 2014, 12:07:20 AM
Sign me up as well. This will be fun, excited to present my list in a few months.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2014, 04:51:48 AM
  Should be a few months before it's my turn.

Hate to say it, but years at this pace.  Zantera is spoiling us with his bands list.

True enough.  But if people, like... you know... start working on this while they're on the waiting list, and not wait until it's their turn, the pace should pickup.  It's only been a month with DC, so that's not too bad.  That's an update every couple of days.  With a Top 25 list, it shouldn't take longer than a month to go thru this.
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Post by: Cable on June 20, 2014, 05:58:39 AM
  Should be a few months before it's my turn.

Hate to say it, but years at this pace.  Zantera is spoiling us with his bands list.

True enough.  But if people, like... you know... start working on this while they're on the waiting list, and not wait until it's their turn, the pace should pickup.  It's only been a month with DC, so that's not too bad.  That's an update every couple of days.  With a Top 25 list, it shouldn't take longer than a month to go thru this.


I already have a 1/3rd at least of mine done, so I can just copy and paste for my posts and be done with it. Even though I'm later, I'll try to pick up the pace to two a day for the first 20.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 20, 2014, 06:08:54 AM
Geez guys, sorry there hasn't been an update for a few days  :lol
I've had to make up homework, and study for a makeup Midterm. After this morning I'll post a few updates.
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Post by: Sacul on June 20, 2014, 09:05:18 AM
Oh, and sign me up for this. 
Sign me up as well. This will be fun, excited to present my list in a few months.
Added!
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 21, 2014, 03:08:38 PM
12. Assassin's Creed II (2009)
(http://www.game-ost.com/static/covers_soundtracks/2322_578527.jpg)

Still the best Assassin's Creed to date in my opinion, this entry improved upon everything from the first, had a wonderful storyline, and never got tiring. I still like the series, but every release afterwards just hasn't captured the magic nearly as much as this one. III was brilliant, the world was amazing, but the story loses me very quickly and I still haven't beaten it to this day, still have yet to play IV. Italy was quite simply put absolutely gorgeous, and the side stuff in this game was very entertaining as well. It's been quite awhile since I've last played this but I feel like I could start over and just power drive through this game, it's just that addicting. Combat wasn't a super simple affair, and evading the LAW didn't seem like an impossible affair like III does.
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Post by: Outcrier on June 21, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
Totally agree with your opinions on both AC2 and 3 (i just didn't enjoyed playing the game).
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2014, 05:29:50 PM
I was revolutionary as far as story ideas go.  II just took it up a notch.  I haven't played III yet.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 21, 2014, 07:02:13 PM
If you've played the first two games, you've experienced the best the series has to offer, in my opinion. It's not a bad series, it's just downright stale. I didn't like III and didn't get very far, and IV was cool for the first few hours and teetered off into mediocrity and far too many instances off deju vu. The bad kind. But yeah, I enjoyed ACII the most. I probably won't buy another AC game till they inevitably have to give in to logic and do the shogun era. Or y'know...inject any type of innovation or fresh ideas instead of just a change of scenery.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 21, 2014, 07:12:46 PM
If you've played the first two games, you've experienced the best the series has to offer, in my opinion. It's not a bad series, it's just downright stale. I didn't like III and didn't get very far, and IV was cool for the first few hours and teetered off into mediocrity and far too many instances off deju vu. The bad kind. But yeah, I enjoyed ACII the most. I probably won't buy another AC game till they inevitably have to give in to logic and do the shogun era. Or y'know...inject any type of innovation or fresh ideas instead of just a change of scenery.
The second they announce they're doing one set in the Shogunate era, I strip my clothes off and go into a binge session of masturbation lasting days.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 23, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
11. Titanfall (2014)
(http://www.gamechup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/titanfall-xbox-one-cover.jpg)

Why is such a recent game on my list, and so high? Well all I have to say is suck it, this game is utterly fantastic, and it's the first step into a new generation of amazing shooters. While some (still) bellyache about the lack of a campaign, I love that they didn't waste time and space attaching a half assed, much too long and tedious campaign to the game, and instead focused on the online experience. The gameplay is incredible, the feeling of parkouring around a city just feels wonderful, and the gunplay is some of the tightest I've seen in any video game. On top of that the visuals are quite simply brilliant, and many maps just make my jaw drop, they're well designed hybrids of past shooters, offering expansive room to maneuver, but also contain little alleys and stretches that give you that small map oriented play as well. And don't even get me started on the Titans, those are just a fucking blast plain and simple.

So yeah, tight game.
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Post by: ReaperKK on June 24, 2014, 05:11:27 PM
I'm playing Black Flag right now and I'm having a good time, it's my first AC game but it's a lot of fun.

I really wish I had time to play Titanfall during the free weekend this weekend but I had a trip to make. Maybe I'll pick it up sometime.
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Post by: adace on June 26, 2014, 02:05:51 AM
Just noticed this thread. Nice picks, DC :tup Don't agree with/haven't played all of them but you definitely have a bunch of good ones such as Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Assassin's Creed. Following.
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Post by: Outcrier on June 26, 2014, 02:31:09 AM
I think i will do a top 25 too, can you add me to the waiting list, Sacul?
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Post by: Sacul on June 26, 2014, 10:40:11 AM
No problem! I just hope Dark Castle can finish his list... soon. (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/Roadrunner-Records-Logo.jpg)
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 26, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
If you guys keep reminding me I've got to finish my list, I'm just going to stall. School exists, and I'm updating when I can.

10. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire (2004)
(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pokemonrs_437.jpg)

Best Pokemon generation so far, and it's being remade, so that's tight. If you're not a dusty relic, you at least know what Pokemon is, collect bitchin monsters, nurture and love them, and make them fight because you own that shit cuz. This generation had my favorite pokemon designs(X/Y and Black/White might edge it out in that now) but it still has the most entertaining play value. Secret hideouts are way more fun than they should be allowed to be, I'd literally spend hours designing my secret hideout even though it doesn't matter. That and the city designs were radical, and incredibly charming, and I loved to just wander around. Training Pokemon also didn't feel like a chore like it can be in the newer games. Overall, one of my favorite games from my childhoods, and I can't wait to see it made in the gorgeous detail that's been shown so far.
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Post by: Zantera on June 26, 2014, 11:36:53 AM
I'm actually not a HUGE fan of Gen 3 but they are pretty good. I think with Pokemon it comes down to nostalgia a lot. Gen 2 will always be the shit for me.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on June 26, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
Gen 3 is definitely my favourite too.
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Post by: Outcrier on June 26, 2014, 05:57:54 PM
I'm with Zantera, go Gen 2   :metal
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Post by: TioJorge on June 26, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
I was on my way out of the Poke'world whenever these games came out, but have since gotten back into the series and cannot wait to explore them in depth on the 3DS remakes. I do remember enjoying the world immensely and while the roster of monsters isn't my favorite, it's still up there.
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Post by: ReaperKK on June 27, 2014, 09:08:24 AM
Sacul, can you put me on the waiting list, I posted on the front page but was never added.
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Post by: Sacul on June 27, 2014, 09:27:08 AM
Gen 3 is definitely my favourite too.
Totally, I feel like the Pokemon after that are really weird and have some silly names. Just take a look at this.
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/10/garbodor.jpg)
Seriously?
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Post by: TioJorge on June 27, 2014, 09:51:36 AM
Yeah, because other Pokemon games didn't have their share of useless designs.  :\

Every generation has it's share of completely boring ideas that were threw in to fill the quota. Just as they have their share of awesome designs.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 27, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
Gen 3 is definitely my favourite too.
Totally, I feel like the Pokemon after that are really weird and have some silly names. Just take a look at this.
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/10/garbodor.jpg)
Seriously?
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/008/5/b/zuruzukin_v_2_by_xous54-d36qd9r.png)
(https://www.smogon.com/media/smog/13/artpanel_shanderaa.png)

Here's just two examples of awesome designs, but there's plenty of great designs in the Pokemon games today.
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Post by: soundgarden on June 27, 2014, 10:17:22 AM
(https://www.smogon.com/media/smog/13/artpanel_shanderaa.png)
Here's just two examples, but there's plenty of great designs in the Pokemon games today.

Are you saying Chandelure was bad design? Its one of the few I really digged in the recent generations.  Plus, Ghost/Fire?  F yea!
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 27, 2014, 10:53:38 AM
No, I'm saying it's one of many, many brilliant designs. Could've been a bit more clear on that heh.
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Post by: Dark Castle on June 29, 2014, 06:20:02 PM
9. Skyrim (2011)

A game I've sunk too much of my life into. It's my favorite from the series, I tried Oblivion and shut the game off after seeing the Kings shitty grin when he said he was going to die or something, and half heartedly tried it again a few hours later. The combat is the best in the series, I feel like this game actually lets you feel the weight of your hits, and that's something I actively enjoy in games. The graphics are jaw dropping at times and the customization is pretty radical too, and I've made multiple bonafide badasses. Story is nothing to write home about, but it serves it's purpose, and doesn't stop me from exploring every single nook and cranny in the game. I love spending half a day on some huge as fuck cave I happen to run by, it's a pleasure to waste my day.

Overall this game is a great game to play on a rainy day, and offers countless hours of fun.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 29, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
Good game. It's far too in depth for me to enjoy it completely, but many games are for me these days, sadly. It is indeed a massive plethora of potentially hundreds upon hundreds of hours of nothing but exploration and mystery. When the game originally came out, my friend said an odd comment that stuck with me and still describes the game perfectly for me; he said "The thing I love about this game is that you can spend hours doing quite literally nothing to actually further the game and not know it while you're doing it". Like you said, you can spend so much time just exploring a 'little' (in comparison to the game world) nook, find some random treasure and/or powerful opponent...or perhaps nothing at all; but even if you find nothing, it's still exhilarating somehow.

For me though, I really don't have the time to rack in hundreds of hours into a game anymore. I would love to be able to, and hopefully will be able to again someday; but for now those days are behind me and I've still only got about 60 hours in Skyrim. Which, for me, is unheard of in the past few years. It's a testament that I finished the story, but I realized the real game lies in it's ability to continue on after that plot ends. It's almost like an adventurous GTA, where instead of just driving around a city and fuckin' around with cheats, I'll dive in with the insane amount of mods there are and have fun that way.

I still jump in from time to time to fly around as Goku and have Iron Man as a minion, just fuckin' up those dragons and stealing their balls, hoping they bring me wishes.


They haven't.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 29, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
I serious would like to know how many hours I have spent playing Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

Second thought, maybe not.  The Fallout series might even be worse considering how much I played the first two, in particular.
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Post by: Zantera on June 29, 2014, 11:58:34 PM
I don't think I'll ever complete Skyrim, but I would agree that it's one of the best games out there. I play it from time to time in periods, but I love doing side-quests and explore so much that I'm moving at a snail pace when it comes to the main storyline.
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Post by: TioJorge on June 30, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Do you mean 100% complete? I finished the actual plot of the story in about 45 hours, give or take a few. The rest is all screwing around for me.  :lol Unless you just got caught up in the side-quests..I know a lot of people like to try to complete most of a game's side quests before they finish the story. I've become the opposite over the years of games becoming more open...I like to get what I can out of the story and then kind of just have the rest as extra fun for downtime. I suppose that goes right along with me having less time with games though, now that I think on it.  :sadpanda: :millahhhh
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on June 30, 2014, 01:54:57 AM
(https://www.smogon.com/media/smog/13/artpanel_shanderaa.png)
Here's just two examples, but there's plenty of great designs in the Pokemon games today.

Are you saying Chandelure was bad design? Its one of the few I really digged in the recent generations.  Plus, Ghost/Fire?  F yea!
Chandelure is on my team in every Pokemon game now. The special attack on that thing is just unfair.
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Post by: Sacul on July 01, 2014, 10:25:32 AM
I may have spent 100+ hours once and nearly 50+ on another game. Now I realize that Skyrim isn't nearly a great game, but man, is damn addictive. Also, it's one of the few that, having such freedom to do whatever you want, you don't feel confused on what do do or where to go. I won't play it again, just because I know all the main and side quests.
Oh and I loved the Dark Brotherhood missions. So bad that all the guilds have short plots.
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Post by: Sacul on July 04, 2014, 02:30:44 PM
Waiting for #8. No rush, just a reminder that there are guys that follow this thread.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2014, 03:02:42 PM
Yeah!  I may not comment much, but I'm always following.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on July 05, 2014, 12:00:27 AM
Yeah!  I may not comment much, but I'm always following.

Same here. I may not contribute much due to the fact that I haven't played a lot of these games, but I still enjoy reading the write-ups to them.
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Post by: Dark Castle on July 05, 2014, 12:06:20 AM
8. Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Super_mario_sunshine.jpg)

The first game I got for my gamecube that didn't come with the box (Melee), this glorious game is still my favorite entry in the Main line Mario story. The story as a little kid had me deeply invested, I wanted to clear Mario's name desperately, and I had a shit ton of fun doing. The addition of F.L.U.D.D. was a very welcome addition to Mario games, it added a ton of dynamic to how you could play, and spraying enemies in the face tickled my fancy. The level designs in this were absolutely gorgeous as well, and how they represented the paint and toxic filth was perfect, it just looked like a blight on the landscape.

Overall, the best addition to the Mario series, there's not really anything you can fault this game with, it's the perfect addition to a legendary series.
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Post by: adace on July 05, 2014, 01:10:43 AM
Not my favorite Mario game but still a classic. :tup
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 05, 2014, 01:15:06 AM
I quite liked Sunshine, especially all of the fun moves with the FLUDD. I gave up on it because of the ridiculous platforming levels though. Mario actually has too many moves, so he'll randomly kick jump off a platform or do a flip jump to his death instead of what you want him to do. And platforming in 3D is retarded enough to begin with. :lol
Not sure which I prefer out of this or Mario 64 gameplay-wise, haven't played any more recent Mario games. They don't compare to the 2D ones like SMW though.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 05, 2014, 01:49:51 AM
I'd definitely take Sunshine over 64. I think they really refined the gameplay and design a lot in this game, and the FLUDD is an interesting and unique addition that works very well. It's great visually, aswell.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 05, 2014, 01:52:55 AM
I'd definitely take Sunshine over 64. I think they really refined the gameplay and design a lot in this game, and the FLUDD is an interesting and unique addition that works very well. It's great visually, aswell.

I agree with all of that, except that I still overall had more fun with Mario 64, mostly just because of those impossible platforming levels without the FLUDD stopping my progress completely. Mario 64 is rough around the edges and shows its age even compared to later platformers on the 64.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on July 05, 2014, 01:53:45 AM
Just bought it last week. Damn shame I can't start playing it til my memory card arrives in the mail though.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 05, 2014, 03:38:47 AM
I agree with all of that, except that I still overall had more fun with Mario 64, mostly just because of those impossible platforming levels without the FLUDD stopping my progress completely. Mario 64 is rough around the edges and shows its age even compared to later platformers on the 64.
I was irritated by a few of those platform stages in Sunshine aswell, but I managed to get through them, I guess they didn't bother me as much as they did you. My memory is probably faulty but I didn't think they were mandatory.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 05, 2014, 03:46:45 AM
I agree with all of that, except that I still overall had more fun with Mario 64, mostly just because of those impossible platforming levels without the FLUDD stopping my progress completely. Mario 64 is rough around the edges and shows its age even compared to later platformers on the 64.
I was irritated by a few of those platform stages in Sunshine aswell, but I managed to get through them, I guess they didn't bother me as much as they did you. My memory is probably faulty but I didn't think they were mandatory.

You can of course do others things, as those games aren't linear, but at some point you do have to do those platforming levels to be able to progress. Some were easier than others, but that kind of platforming in 3D is too fundamentally flawed to rely on to that degree imo, so it wasn't even fun hard for me, it was just frustrating.
If it weren't for those levels, it would be no contest that I'd prefer it over Mario 64. It's high quality, as Mario games always are.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 05, 2014, 03:58:45 AM
Oh trust me, some of them were definitely frustrating and not fun-hard for me aswell. I must just have a higher threshold for pain. :lol

I'd say the flaw is that they aren't optional. I remember the game having some optional ones of those platform stages, because I do remember getting too annoyed at one or two of them, but I still defeated Bowser and finished the game despite skipping them. So that's probably why I don't remember there being mandatory stages.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 05, 2014, 04:01:35 AM
Oh trust me, some of them were definitely frustrating and not fun-hard for me aswell. I must just have a higher threshold for pain. :lol

I'd say the flaw is that they aren't optional. I remember the game having some optional ones of those platform stages, because I do remember getting too annoyed at one or two of them, but I still defeated Bowser and finished the game despite skipping them. So that's probably why I don't remember there being mandatory stages.

Maybe I just didn't manage to find the next level/thing that I was able to do, I don't know. It's been a little while since I last played it. I'm a pretty casual gamer these days, so I'm sure my pain threshold isn't too high.
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Post by: Sacul on July 07, 2014, 08:56:55 AM
I remember trying to play it on a GC emulator some years ago - it seemed a decent game, but it quickly bored me. My nostalgia makes me prefer the 64 edition, but damn, the Galaxy series is close. It was really amazing how Nintendo refreshed the franchise with two amazing titles - Mario in space!. Yeah, they are easy to finish, but difficult as hell to 100% complete them.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 07, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
I played a little Galaxy on a friend's system (I don't have a Wii) a few years ago. Didn't see what all the fuss was about to be honest.
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Post by: Xenon on July 07, 2014, 03:24:51 PM
I'm re-playing Mass effect trilogy. Oh the feels.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 07, 2014, 04:09:22 PM
 :millahhhh
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Post by: Dark Castle on July 07, 2014, 04:16:45 PM
Why the FUCK are we talking avout Mass Effect in here you moffa fuckas
EDIT: I've got an update coming, this game is the tits.
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Post by: Xenon on July 07, 2014, 08:00:19 PM
Sorry I thought this was the Video game thread, not the TOP 25. My bad.
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Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on July 08, 2014, 01:00:27 PM
Never really gave Sunshine a chance.... maybe someday, as I own both the game and a Cube. Was never into 64, but Galaxy was the shit!
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Post by: Cable on July 08, 2014, 08:07:48 PM
Never really gave Sunshine a chance.... maybe someday, as I own both the game and a Cube. Was never into 64, but Galaxy was the shit!


Agreed about Galaxy. I did not play Sunshine, but my one friend said he liked it as he showed me 5 minutes of it. I am one of the few people that is not over the moon for Mario 64 I guess. Not sure if it was a launch title, but too hard due to the 1st real Nintendo attempt at 3D platforming I felt.
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Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on July 10, 2014, 07:24:26 PM
Please remove me from the list. I might not live to see it.
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Post by: Sacul on July 10, 2014, 08:34:29 PM
Please remove me from the list. I might not live to see it.
Are you sure? Maybe Dark Castle needs a small rush.
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Post by: Dark Castle on July 10, 2014, 11:28:47 PM
Please remove me from the list. I might not live to see it.

7. Halo Reach
Best Halo game for me, played and continue to play with friends, GRIFF BALL amirite? Campaign is no slouch either, and multiplayer maps and modes are fantastic.
6. Mario Kart 8
Easily the best entry in the series, you know Mario Kart, but this takes it to the umpteenth level. Play it yourself, don't be a fuck and just get a Wii-U already
5. Super Smash Bros Brawl
My favorite, from the gameplay to the character list. The new ones are sure to overtake but this series just gets better and better
4. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Fantastic game, great story, gameplay is fun as heckles
3. Pokemon Colosseum
Controversially my favorite Pokemon game. The protagonist is the most radular ever, underground pokemon fighting, and rescuing pokemon from evil as fuck dudes combine to make me love everything about this game.
2. Red Dead Redemption
Everything is fantastic about this game
1. Wind Waker
Best Zelda game, best game period. Ocean exploration is fun you naysaying babies, gorgeous art style, fantastic dungeon design, and a story full of heart, drama, and action.



There, how's that for you  :censored
My fucking apologies school has picked up and I choose to prioritize that first over this. I should have known to predict my future and have seen how busy school was going to get what with Lab groups we don't get to pick until the first day of class.
Just move on to the next person,
(http://i.imgur.com/eHUmsE0.gif)
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Post by: Scorpion on July 11, 2014, 12:05:27 AM
Great finish! Not a fan of the Zelda series (sacrilege, I know!), but both Halo Reach and Red Dead Redemption are some very worthy choices. Might have to replay the latter, it's been ages... If it interests anyone, I didn't mind your pace DC, of course real life should take priority over DTF! Hope it isn't too bad with school at the moment. :hug:
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Post by: Zantera on July 11, 2014, 12:10:30 AM
I would actually like to take on something like this, so sign me up if possible. :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 11, 2014, 12:16:50 AM
Most of these games are far too new for me to have played. :lol

I think I've played Reach. All of those Halo games blur together for me, since I've never owned them, but played a decent amount of the multi-player with friends. They're always a ton of fun.
And I wouldn't even call Wind Waker the best Zelda game on the console, let alone the best Zelda game, let alone the best game. But my copy came with the bonus disc of OoT/Master Quest, so at least it came with the best game of all time. :P
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Post by: ariich on July 11, 2014, 12:37:19 AM
of course real life should take priority over DTF!
Absolutely! But if things do get busy/stressful and mean you're holding people up here, it's generally a good idea to say so and put yourself on hold until things calm down, so that other people can have their turns.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 11, 2014, 02:09:49 AM
I guess I'll start now? Yes, I will. Don't hesitate to comment on DC's last update, though, I just want to get through this rather quickly, as I'd like to finish this in the not too distant future.

A note before I start: there are a few quite popular franchises in gaming that are not represented on this list. Blame my dad, as 90% of my gaming experience comes from raiding his chest of PC games. Sorry guys, there was never any Zelda in there.

25. Flatout 2 (2006)

(http://www2.picfront.org/picture/NaiRbswOMU/img/Flatout2.JPG)

Yes, this game is stupid and has no story. Yes, its main selling point is the ability to destroy your opponents cars in the races, which is completely ridiculous. Do I care? Not one bit. This game is one of the two games that I used to play regularly with my buddies during my time at boarding school, and, oh man, it's just insane amounts of fun. No matter if it's a derby event (a certain number of cars in a an arena - no rounds, just destruction, until only one is left) or a stunt (launching your driver through the windshield of your car at the right moment to achieve something, like scoring a goal on a soccer goal or performing a ski jump, jumping as far as you can), whenever we got our computers into our common room and fired up this little beauty, the following hours were always some of the best fun that I have had playing computer games. Note: the hilarity of this rises exponentionally if you are drunk while playing this, or start out sober and get more and more drunk while playing.

24. Fable - The Lost Chapters (2004)

(http://static.gronkh.de/media/boxcover/fable-the-lost-chapters.jpg)

This game is somewhat an anomaly on this list. As you'll notice, I don't really go in for RPGs at all, and this is one of the sole exceptions. Maybe it was because it was my first RPG, and after having 100%-ed (nearly!) this one, other RPGs didn't seem like a game worth my time? I dunno. Either way, this is cool. Yeah, the storyline is probably the least original thing ever - young hero's parents are murdered, he is taken in by a Guild, which teaches him magic and fighting and all that, after which he embarks into the world, accepting quests and side-quests, while deciding if he wants to be good or evil. A few things that set this apart from other RPGs: one, there are real impacts on the game later on, whether you're good or evil, not just stuff like "If I massacre the whole town, random NPC #26 will look at me disapprovingly four side-quests later", like I've seen in a few RPGs (probably not good ones, but, like I said, the whole genre isn't usually something that I delve into). It's also very open-worlded, and a very big world. Plus, you can't get everything in one playthrough, which, while somewhat annoying, is also something that is rather logical, because of course there would be different options available to a saint than to a guy that abducts children and sacrifices at evil temples. Anyway, enough rambling - this is the only RPG that I have seriously played, and while few other games in the genre hold my interest, this is definitely a good one that you can invest countless hours of your life into, if you are so inclined.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 11, 2014, 02:28:10 AM
1. Wind Waker
Best Zelda game, best game period. Ocean exploration is fun you naysaying babies, gorgeous art style, fantastic dungeon design, and a story full of heart, drama, and action.
I liked the idea of the sea exploration more than I like the way it was implemented. I know it's an ocean and supposed to be vast and mostly empty, but I think they could have done more to make it interesting - more things to fight, for one, could have relieved the tedium. I don't know how many times I just aimed my boat at the next objective and then set down the controller, only to arrive at my destination after about 10 minutes, completely unharmed. It just isn't exciting at all, I don't consider it good gameplay if I can put the controller down and just watch.

Other than calling it the best Zelda game, I won't argue with your other points. It plays great, and it looks fantastic. Probably my favourite Ganondorf battle, too - I loved going toe to toe with him in a sword fight like that. It was a great location/circumstance for the battle to take place, aswell.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 11, 2014, 02:40:55 AM
I don't know how many times I just aimed my boat at the next objective and then set down the controller, only to arrive at my destination after about 10 minutes, completely unharmed.

I once just aimed the boat, took a piss break, and came back and it was still going uninterrupted without having been hurt etc.
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Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on July 11, 2014, 04:44:35 AM
Please remove me from the list. I might not live to see it.

7. Halo Reach
Best Halo game for me, played and continue to play with friends, GRIFF BALL amirite? Campaign is no slouch either, and multiplayer maps and modes are fantastic.
6. Mario Kart 8
Easily the best entry in the series, you know Mario Kart, but this takes it to the umpteenth level. Play it yourself, don't be a fuck and just get a Wii-U already
5. Super Smash Bros Brawl
My favorite, from the gameplay to the character list. The new ones are sure to overtake but this series just gets better and better
4. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Fantastic game, great story, gameplay is fun as heckles
3. Pokemon Colosseum
Controversially my favorite Pokemon game. The protagonist is the most radular ever, underground pokemon fighting, and rescuing pokemon from evil as fuck dudes combine to make me love everything about this game.
2. Red Dead Redemption
Everything is fantastic about this game
1. Wind Waker
Best Zelda game, best game period. Ocean exploration is fun you naysaying babies, gorgeous art style, fantastic dungeon design, and a story full of heart, drama, and action.



There, how's that for you  :censored
My fucking apologies school has picked up and I choose to prioritize that first over this. I should have known to predict my future and have seen how busy school was going to get what with Lab groups we don't get to pick until the first day of class.
Just move on to the next person,
(http://i.imgur.com/eHUmsE0.gif)

Wow.... pretty interesting to see Mario Kart 8 on your list, considering that it wasn't released until after you started your list.

Sorry if my post offended you. And while school should come first, some consideration for others would have been nice.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Cable on July 11, 2014, 05:10:00 AM
I don't know how many times I just aimed my boat at the next objective and then set down the controller, only to arrive at my destination after about 10 minutes, completely unharmed.

I once just aimed the boat, took a piss break, and came back and it was still going uninterrupted without having been hurt etc.


I totally wanted to get the GCube version to play on the Wii. But when I read comments like these, and then heard that the WiiU rehash fixed the problem, I don't really want to get it. I really am interested in it because it always looked cool to me. Just didn't have a GCube, and prob won't get a WiiU.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Bolsters on July 11, 2014, 05:35:44 AM
I totally wanted to get the GCube version to play on the Wii. But when I read comments like these, and then heard that the WiiU rehash fixed the problem, I don't really want to get it. I really am interested in it because it always looked cool to me. Just didn't have a GCube, and prob won't get a WiiU.
Well to be fair: The long sailing sections we're referring to are mostly the early parts of the game when you haven't discovered anything, and they are alleviated a great deal after a certain point in the story where you unlock these tornado things that teleport your ship around the map (although to nitpick again, I'd have liked if there were more of these tornadoes scattered around). Also, other than a short, slightly boring treasure hunt later in the game, every other aspect of the game is fine. Great, even.

I'd still highly recommend it to anyone who's played and enjoyed any other 3D Zelda title. Hell, even if you have never played Zelda but like these sorts of action/adventure games, I'd still recommend it. The good most definitely outweighs the bad by a significant margin.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Cable on July 11, 2014, 08:09:35 AM
I think maybe I'll pick it up then. Considering that I loved Skyward Sword, which I feel had a more polarizing response.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Big Hath on July 11, 2014, 08:28:08 AM
Most of these games are far too new for me to have played. :lol

just wait until my turn.  You'll probably be saying the opposite!  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 11, 2014, 08:30:48 AM
Most of these games are far too new for me to have played. :lol

just wait until my turn.  You'll probably be saying the opposite!  :lol

I like it already! Unless your list includes Magnavox Pong, I don't think you could go too oldschool for me to appreciate.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
Sorry if my post offended you. And while school should come first, some consideration for others would have been nice.

Agreed with DoC.

DC...  :chill.   You're right... real life priorities take precedence.  However, recognize that others want to do this as well, and you took 6 weeks to fire off 18 entries. 

My impression... (and this comment is not specifically directed to DC, but the generic 'you' that refers to every and anyone) if it takes someone more than a few days to put together a couple of paragraphs together on why you love a game, you're too busy to be doing the list, or putting way too much thought into it, and being somewhat disrespectful to those waiting their turn.  Shit or get off the pot.   :biggrin:

I know this isn't my thread idea, but why don't we treat it like the Roulette/Top 50s/Discog Discussion threads?  Have a couple running at the same time, and a dedicated thread for each member?  That way, if (when) someone is going a little slow, it's not holding everyone up?

Just my $0.02.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Dark Castle on July 11, 2014, 09:26:58 AM
Please remove me from the list. I might not live to see it.

7. Halo Reach
Best Halo game for me, played and continue to play with friends, GRIFF BALL amirite? Campaign is no slouch either, and multiplayer maps and modes are fantastic.
6. Mario Kart 8
Easily the best entry in the series, you know Mario Kart, but this takes it to the umpteenth level. Play it yourself, don't be a fuck and just get a Wii-U already
5. Super Smash Bros Brawl
My favorite, from the gameplay to the character list. The new ones are sure to overtake but this series just gets better and better
4. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Fantastic game, great story, gameplay is fun as heckles
3. Pokemon Colosseum
Controversially my favorite Pokemon game. The protagonist is the most radular ever, underground pokemon fighting, and rescuing pokemon from evil as fuck dudes combine to make me love everything about this game.
2. Red Dead Redemption
Everything is fantastic about this game
1. Wind Waker
Best Zelda game, best game period. Ocean exploration is fun you naysaying babies, gorgeous art style, fantastic dungeon design, and a story full of heart, drama, and action.



There, how's that for you  :censored
My fucking apologies school has picked up and I choose to prioritize that first over this. I should have known to predict my future and have seen how busy school was going to get what with Lab groups we don't get to pick until the first day of class.
Just move on to the next person,
(http://i.imgur.com/eHUmsE0.gif)

Wow.... pretty interesting to see Mario Kart 8 on your list, considering that it wasn't released until after you started your list.

Sorry if my post offended you. And while school should come first, some consideration for others would have been nice.

Just my two cents, I had 7 entries left, I was actually going to have done 2-3 big updates today, seeing as I have my first big break from class today, and I was going to wrap it up Saturday, I know there's been a few entries that have been a bit of a delay, but I did an update every 2-4 days on the normal as much as I could. First and foremost, school comes first, that's just the way it's gotta be, and this month, I got in what's probably the worst group time wise(group wise it's awesome because I'm with all of my friends), and there's just nothing I can do about it. On top of that I've got Homework and a group project for another class to worry about. I didn't have that when I started this list, and couldn't have known about the lab group at the very least.

If ya'll thought I was being an inconsiderate jerk, instead of publicly calling me out in the manner you guys did, which I happen to find really rude, just PM, say "Hey Dork Castle, I've noticed you haven't updated in a few days, anything going on?" There's no reason for you guys to post stuff like "I think I'll pull out, I probably won't live to see Dark Castle finish.) There was also two large stretches, one where I was banned, which is beyond my control, and the period I told I wouldn't be able to, which was when I went to Bonnaroo, and had some makeup homework to do afterwards.


I actually agree completely with your last point though, if ya'll thought I was going too slow, why don't we have 2-3 of these going at a time like every other Top XX thread?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Zantera on July 11, 2014, 09:42:08 AM
I think the problem with lists like this having a line is that people have different amount of time, and it's not possible for everyone to update equally. As for me personally, I've had all the free time in the world these last few years, and updating twice a day has been easy and maybe I've set a high bar. I know others have much more to do in their time, and obviously personal time should come first in something like this.

The best solution I could think of is that whoever is in the waiting list (assuming they have a busy daily schedule) start working on write-ups before it's actually their turn. That way most of their time doing the list will be copy-pasting what they have already written before. I don't know, just a thought.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2014, 10:20:19 AM
*DC completely understandalbe explanation*

Then why didn't you just make that explanation, rather than having a minor fit like you did?  Also, I think DoC was trying to be facetious/joking.

The best solution I could think of is that whoever is in the waiting list (assuming they have a busy daily schedule) start working on write-ups before it's actually their turn. That way most of their time doing the list will be copy-pasting what they have already written before. I don't know, just a thought.

Agreed 100%.  With DC being the first, a slower pace is understandable.  Others in line should already be working on their list and writeups well before they are officially 'up'.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Dark Castle: Bodacious Top 25 *Sploosh*
Post by: Sacul on July 11, 2014, 10:44:34 AM
I know this isn't my thread idea, but why don't we treat it like the Roulette/Top 50s/Discog Discussion threads?  Have a couple running at the same time, and a dedicated thread for each member?
I though about that when I first talked about the idea on the video games thread, but as there where just a few people interested on the idea, a single thread for all the lists seemed a more appropriate approach rather than having a dedicated thread for everyone. With just 25 games on the list, it seemed that with more than one list running at time everybody would finish really quick. Also, don't forget there are lots of video game threads already (Battlefield, Pokemon, Zelda, GTA V, etc.)! The bottom line is, now things have gotten bigger and this approach doesn't seem to be sustainable in the future. So, if moderators don't mind, Scorpion you can start your own thread now. And if you are ready, Genowyn, you can also start too.

*DC completely understandable explanation*
Sorry if I seemed rude, DC, it certainly wasn't my intention.

I would actually like to take on something like this, so sign me up if possible. :)
Of course!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: ariich on July 11, 2014, 11:28:46 AM
The only problem with multiple threads is that I don't think is big enough to be archiving threads like we do with the Top 50 albums and Song Roulette threads in GMD. By keeping it in one thread, everything is kept. I think a lot of people (myself included) are much more likely to follow it if I just need to keep coming back to one thread every time.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2014, 12:17:36 PM
I'm cool with that.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Cable on July 11, 2014, 02:49:11 PM
Most of these games are far too new for me to have played. :lol

just wait until my turn.  You'll probably be saying the opposite!  :lol

I like it already! Unless your list includes Magnavox Pong, I don't think you could go too oldschool for me to appreciate.


Sames for mine. My newest games are one from 2010/2012, and another from 2011. That's the two newest. Plus like Scorpions is shaping up, mine is littered with PC games. Makes it more interesting the more diverse lists are I feel.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Scorpion on July 11, 2014, 09:07:22 PM
That got a lot of discussion, I see! Oh well. Maybe this one will elicit more of a response... though I thoroughly doubt it.

23. Titus the Fox: To Marrakech and Back (1992)

(http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/53/Titus%20the%20Fox_1.png)
Title screen.

(http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/53/Titus%20the%20Fox_3.png)
Screenshot from Level 1.

Anybody here still remember MS DOS? By all rights, I shouldn't either, but my granddad is somewhat of a collector of old to outdated computer stuff. Back in 2002 (when I first played this game and was a measly seven years old), he had two computers running in his office: one with Windows 95 and one only with MS DOS. I played this on the latter, and let me tell you, I wasted COUNTLESS hours trying to beat this bitch of a game. Now, I revisited it earlier this year and it wasn't as hard as I remembered it being, but it was still pretty damn tricky - especially that run of levels from Level 7 to Level 9, which are about ten times as difficult as any other level in the game. Like with Fable and Flatout, nostalgia plays a big role here - this game was the first computer game that I remember playing, so it's somewhat understandable that I like it a lot, but still, it's good fun. As you can see from the offered screen-shot, it's basically a 2D-platformer, with the story being that Titus the Fox has to rescue his love Suzy, who has been kidnapped (sound familiar? :P), but who plays this for the story? Not me. I think by now this game is free to download and play, so if you're interested in this type of game, give it a go! You'll need an MS DOS emulator like DOSBox, though.

22. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/Harry_Potter_and_the_Chamber_of_Secrets_Coverart.png)
Cover.

(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/35200000/Harry-Potter-and-the-Chamber-of-Secrets-video-game-harry-potter-35217246-1024-768.jpg)
Gameplay - this is at the start of the first task.

I was a huge Harry Potter nerd back in the day, and would probably still be if the series wasn't over, so it's only natural that I started playing the computer games. I played Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone first, and it was cool, I guess. But then came this game, and it blew me away. It took everything that I liked from the first game, improved upon it and ditched the aspects that I didn't like, which was mainly the linearity of it all - you can now replay almost every part of the game as often as you want, improving on your time in tasks or going back to certain areas to gather collectibles - something which I am a sucker for. Some areas exist only once, but that's okay - it's still a huge improvement over the complete linearity of the first game. Plus, Hogwarts is huge in this game! I think I 100%-ed this one, but it took me at least 20 hours to find all the Chocolate Frog Cards. Now, I haven't replayed this one in a quite a while, but I'm positive I'd still enjoy it. It's just one of those games where everything comes together that delighted the young me for hours on end.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2014, 09:18:14 PM
Sorry Scrop... I'm 0 for 4.  Never played any of these.  I have a feeling our generational gap will see me going ??? on more than a few of your entries.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Scorpion on July 11, 2014, 09:20:27 PM
It's not like all of these came out two years ago... but I get ya. I'd think most people won't know too many games on this list. But if it inspires anyone to pick up even one of these, I'd consider this a successful job.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Bolsters on July 11, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
So far on your list the only game I've played is Fable. I didn't play it much though, as it failed to capture my interest.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2014, 09:25:20 PM
I play current games too!  I guess it's got more to do with the platform's we had access to.  I never had any Nintendo consoles, and only a sporadic element of PC games through the 90s and 00s.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 11, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Awesome, good to see things moving forward and it sucks that you had to rush, DC, but it was still cool seeing your list. I agree on TWW being one of the most beautifully crafted games created, let alone Zelda, and I've got a different number 1 Zelda (Majora), but TWW will always hold a special place both in my heart and in the world of games and what it did for the industry.

Interesting list Scorp! I loved me some Titus back in the day, and granted, I didn't play much because that was around my introduction into games as a whole and had basically a tidal wave of games thrown on me in the coming years. But it's awesome to see Chamber of Secrets, I loved both the movie and the game so much, and even though the games, quite frankly, were poorly made in terms of their development, I still had fun with it because I was so addicted to the stories at the time. I remember playing mine on my Gamecube with my sister, getting her into games because of it...just a lot of good nostalgia there. Good stuff! Look forward to seeing some obscure games.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 11, 2014, 10:38:09 PM
I was always a console gamer, and never had a proper PC until much later, so I'm not familiar with a lot of PC games. Our first computer was a shitbox though, so I also knew MSDOS far better than anyone my age had a right to. It's even more impressive for someone your age though, Scrop!

My knowledge of PC platformers is basically Commander Keen, and Jazz Jackrabbit. I played the hell out of Commander Keen back in the day, as one of the few games we found that our old PC could play, although Jazz Jackrabbit just felt like a poor man's console platformer to me. Never heard of Titus the Fox, but it looks more my type of thing than most games in these lists. :hat
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 11, 2014, 11:03:47 PM
I remember playing that Chamber of Secrets game as a kid and loving it.
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Post by: Sacul on July 12, 2014, 11:03:22 AM
I remember playing that Chamber of Secrets game as a kid and loving it.
This. It was a nice game, but I don't remember actually finishing it :lol. Btw, wouldn't you mind putting the numbers to the games? For database purposes :P
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Dark Castle on July 12, 2014, 11:12:45 AM
Chamber of Secrets was a warm up for the fantastic Quidditch World Cup game that came out afterwards. I spent more time playing the Quidditch stuff in Chamber of Secrets than I did the actual main game  :lol Good game though, one that I eventually finished, and played a lot when I first got an Xbox.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 12, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
I really need to play my copy of Red Dead Redemption.  Bought it used three years ago and never got around to it.

Would it be kosher if between two lists I posted my top 25 in one post without any write ups, because I don't really care to write them up, I just want to see what some people think of my favorite games.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 12, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
Hell, at least DC finished his list. I have a shitty problem of stopping halfway through a list. *cough* Breaking Bad *cough*
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Scorpion on July 12, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
Never heard of Titus the Fox, but it looks more my type of thing than most games in these lists. :hat

Like I said, you can find it in various places around the net, and programs like DOSBox are not really hard to find either, so if you want to pick this one up for a few hours of mindless fun, definitely do it. From what I know about your general likes/dislikes, I'd think this would be right up your alley.

Btw, wouldn't you mind putting the numbers to the games? For database purposes :P

Sure! No problem, I don't know why forgot them on the list. Went back and added them in.

Also, you might have noticed that I've started including screenshots from each game, mainly to give those that don't know these games an idea towards their gameplay and aesthetic. I shall continue doing so, unless someone (for some unfathomable reason) objects to this.

Also, new update.

21. Eets - Hunger. It's emotional (2006)

(http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1203606438-00.jpg)

(http://www.old-games.com/screenshot/9767-4-eets-hunger-it-s-emotional.jpg)
This is what a level looks like. Eets is that white thingy there and the puzzle piece is where he has to go.

This one was somewhat of a lucky find for me. My father used to have a subscription on a computer magazine called ct (dunno if it exists in other countries), and twice a year, it came with a CD stacked to the brim with useful programs and games. Most of the games were either freeware or demos, but one of those CDs also included the full version of Eets - Hunger. It's emotional. Considering that I was looking for something to play around then and I was never one to turn down free stuff, I fired up the game on a late afternoon, figuring that it might entertain me until dinner, if nothing else... I didn't close the game until 11 p.m, that's how it drew me in.

It's essentially a puzzle game. You have a... creature, I guess called Eets that you must guide to the end of a level (a puzzle piece), and you have certain objects available to you to ensure that he does reach the end. A little like Lemmings, really, though I never really played that game. Anyway, what makes this game so immersive is that the puzzles here have a pretty much perfect difficulty curve - with the exception of the first few, they're never too easy to be boring, but later they frequently add new objects that require you to think in new ways yet again to solve a level. Plus, there is a lot of levels here, I think a hundred or so, so a few hours of entertainment are guaranteed here, if you don't hate puzzle games, that is. Plus, the art style is really cool, which is always a plus.

20. Worms 4: Mayhem (2005)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1c/W4m-ps2-cover.jpg)

(http://cdn3.spong.com/screen-shot/w/o/worms4mayh165548l/_-Worms-4-Mayhem-PC-_.jpg)
A worm being attacked by a Robo Turret.

I'd guess that most people have at least heard of the worms franchise. Yes, the main idea is absolutely preposterous, but there's so much humour and explosions thrown in here (mostly the explosions!) that I find it rather hard to care about that. Be it story-mode or multiplayer, the premise here is as simple as it universal: beings (in this case talking worms) in ridiculous outfits try to kill each other with a variety of weapons (ranging from conventional like a shotgun or a stick of dynamite to ridiculous, like the Banana Bomb or the Holy Handgrenade), blowing up most of the landscape in the process. The last man standing (usually) wins. I mean, how can you not like that?

The reasons for picking this game from the worms series is, again, mainly due to nostalgic reasons: it's the first game of the franchise that I played. And while I get how some people don't really enjoy the switch to 3D all that much, 2D always felt wrong to me after having experienced this version first. Plus, it has some pretty cool stuff in it that I miss in the earlier versions, like the ability to have your team talk in ridiculous Scottish accents.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 12, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
Never heard of Titus the Fox, but it looks more my type of thing than most games in these lists. :hat

Like I said, you can find it in various places around the net, and programs like DOSBox are not really hard to find either, so if you want to pick this one up for a few hours of mindless fun, definitely do it. From what I know about your general likes/dislikes, I'd think this would be right up your alley.

I've had DOSBox since way back. I might check it out. :tup

I've never played Worms 4. The only one I've played is the one in the XBOX Arcade, which had the traditional 2D gameplay, which was a lot of fun.
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Post by: ariich on July 13, 2014, 03:16:13 AM
Your screenshots aren't working very well. The Harry Potter one doesn't show up when hotlinking, and the Eets one says "To view the screenshot and download the game, please go to www.oldgames.com".

You might want to get your own photobucket (or similar) account and upload these images there.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 13, 2014, 04:26:41 AM
Weird, they show up for me? ??? Anyway, that is a good idea. I think I even have a PhotoBucket, though I'll be damned if a can remember the password.
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Post by: Zantera on July 13, 2014, 05:35:52 AM
I really like the Worms-games but I actually don't care for the 3D games at all. IMO the charm comes from the traditional format. I recently started playing Worms Reloaded, which has the classic Worms layout of seeing the game from the side, and that's the way to go IMO.
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Post by: Skeever on July 13, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Man, I have to say, I was cringing through the majority of Dark Castle's list. What an odd selection. But I guess whatever is fun!

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Post by: Dark Castle on July 13, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
Man, I have to say, I was cringing through the majority of Dark Castle's list. What an odd selection. But I guess whatever is fun!
(http://i.imgur.com/sdXypgB.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/UQAJe7j.gif)
I would love to know what was so cringe worthy about it, truly I would. I should probably be informed of what many classics I missed so that the plebeian that I am can play catch up and include those instead.

I'd love to include many more games, but you know, it's a top 25, and these are the top 25 that I either remember the most fondly or have the most fun playing right now, so why don't you waste your time on more productive things rather than cringing at a list of something that brings joy to somebody.
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Post by: Sacul on July 13, 2014, 09:59:08 AM
Man, I have to say, I was cringing through the majority of Dark Castle's list. What an odd selection. But I guess whatever is fun!
I think it was a decent list, with lots of great modern games.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Skeever on July 13, 2014, 10:15:04 AM
Two Worlds is probably one of the worst games I have ever played on the current gen  :lol

I guess everyone's different. It's interesting to see a list from (I'm assuming) a younger guy who has mainly played 6th and 7th gen games. If I were to do a list, it would overwhelmingly consist of RPGs from gens 4-6, but it'd also include a handful of modern games too. 

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic DC. I would probably recommend you a ton of games on the SNES and PSOne. But I'm not sure there'd be a point. Gaming is gaming and it's difficult to go back in time (I personally don't enjoy much on the early gens and can only enjoy the best of the best on gen 3). However, a few series that I would think should be on any list:

-Metal Gear Solid (PSOne). Snake Eater, too.
-Chrono Trigger
-Zelda and Mario games that aren't on the Gamecube
-A Final Fantasy game
-Something Castlevania
-Something Megaman
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The Age of the Scorpion (Pg. 5)
Post by: Dark Castle on July 13, 2014, 10:21:50 AM
Two Worlds is probably one of the worst games I have ever played on the current gen  :lol

I guess everyone's different. It's interesting to see a list from (I'm assuming) a younger guy who has mainly played 6th and 7th gen games. If I were to do a list, it would overwhelmingly consist of RPGs from gens 4-6, but it'd also include a handful of modern games too. 

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic DC. I would probably recommend you a ton of games on the SNES and PSOne. But I'm not sure there'd be a point. Gaming is gaming and it's difficult to go back in time (I personally don't enjoy much on the early gens and can only enjoy the best of the best on gen 3). However, a few series that I would think should be on any list:

-Metal Gear Solid (PSOne). Snake Eater, too.
-Chrono Trigger
-Zelda and Mario games that aren't on the Gamecube
-A Final Fantasy game
-Something Castlevania
-Something Megaman
(1993 kid you're talking to)
I've owned(for the most part, if we're talking the big consoles generally from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) and played every generation from NES to Current, if I didn't have it, close family or friends had it and I played on each console plenty.
Let me go through your post.

Two Worlds: If you actually read my post on it, you'd see why I like it so much, not much else to say on this.
Metal Gear Solid: It's a great series, but didn't make my personal cut.
Chrono Trigger: Admittedly never played it, but it never really caught my interest either
Final Fantasy: IX is fantastic but like I said for Metal Gear, doesn't make the personal cut for 25.
Castlevania: I've tried multiple games from the series, didn't really enjoy it that much honestly.
Megaman: Have played most of the Battle Network games which are fantastic, but don't make the personal cut. I own II but I don't really have fun playing it, at least on my NES.

I don't get what's wrong with my favorite Mario and Zelda games being from the Gamecube, the Gamecube produced many of the greatest games in my opinion and I wish I had more space for some of them like Luigi's Mansion, and Chibi Robo. It's not like that means I don't enjoy older Zelda and Mario games, because actually the older ones usually come right after only list of favorites for the series.
Like I said above, if the list was a larger number, that would have been great, but it wasn't; so I picked what I remembered most fondly or what I'd played recently that had brought the most entertainment for me.
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Post by: Cable on July 13, 2014, 12:46:38 PM
 ???

Dark Castle's list is his list, and those were his favorite games. There shouldn't be a pre-requisite to X, Y and Z franchise on someone's list, but NOT on this or that console. Having DC's and now Scorpions list thus far being so different is fun.  :tup

Does DC's age somehow make his list less qualified to be valid? Not everyone can have an Atari, NES, SNES, Gameboy, Virtual Boy, Sega Master System, Genesis, N64, PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, an upgraded computer every year, Xbox, Xbox360, Xbox One, Game Gear, PS Vita, Wonderswan, MSX, MSX2, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS, Nintendo 3ds, CDi, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Wii, WiiU, and Gamecube. So we all cannot even scratch the surface of most games made. Having one current gen console is usually the norm.

Maybe make a list Skeever if you want to share your top games? I feel it's a bit odd to call someone's list out on not having the most popular titles in your view. Experience of favorite games on favorite consoles is relative to a lot of factors. You may cherish the SNES and PS1 as the best systems, but not everyone else does. I don't, but I also will not fault anyone for not having titles that I enjoy on YX systems.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 13, 2014, 01:03:01 PM
Have you played Worms:Armageddon for PSOne? You can switch accents for each team and name them whatever you want. It makes for funny captions when you die.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 13, 2014, 05:09:32 PM
Have you played Worms:Armageddon for PSOne? You can switch accents for each team and name them whatever you want. It makes for funny captions when you die.

I don't have a PlayStation, but I think I did play Worms: Armageddon (at least I remember there being a worms with a weapon called Armageddon, and that would make sense for it to be in Worms: Armageddon, wouldn't it?). Like I said, however, the deciding factor was the fact that W4:M was the first one of the series that I played at all, so I was kind of predisposed to picking it.

Update time!

19. Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones (2005)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Pop3.jpg)

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First boss fight of the game.

"Most people think time is like a river, that flows swift and sure in one direction. But I have seen the face of time, and I can tell you, they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm. You may wonder who I really am, and why I say this. Come, and I will tell you a tale like none you have ever heard."


Rounding off the Prince of Persia trilogy on a high note, we have this gem. It's not my favourite of the trilogy (spoilers!), but it's still incredibly great. The whole game is set in Babylon, but it's so big, giving you a real feel of immersion into the city. Many of the mainstays of the Prince of Persia series return here, along with a new maneuvre called the Speed Kill, which is just as awesome as it sounds. Yes, this is basically either climbing or fighting, but the world it is set in is built so well and the plot is really quite interesting, so I don't mind. One of the things that I appreciate most is that the Prince is the perfect hero that you play in so many video games, but that he actually a quite flawed character, who has lost sight of most of the things in life that aren't revenge. His journey towards revenge on the Vizier and how he comes to terms with his dark side is handled quite masterfully, though I was expecting a big fight with the Dark Prince at the end and was sorta disappointed when I didn't get it, which would be my only complaint with this game. Oh, and the combat system is really sweet, and there are some really cool boss fights, with the 3rd boss fight being one of the hardest that I have ever beaten. All in all, awesome game with a beautiful setting and a suprisingly good plot.

18. Tomb Raider: Anniversary (2007)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Tomb_Raider_-_Anniversary.png)

(http://tombraiders.net/stella/walks/TRAwalk/screenshots/tihocan24.jpg)
Probably the most difficult boss fight of the game.

Bad graphics don't normally hinder my enjoyment of video games, but even I have a pain threshold, and the first Tomb Raider is beyond that by quite a bit. Therefore, even though remakes don't normally interest me all that much, Tomb Raider: Anniversary being a remake of the first one was quite welcome, especially since I quite enjoyed the story of that one. Anyway, this is a great remake - the graphics are light years ahead of the first one, the game play is improved quite a bit, one of my favourite things in Tomb Raider combat is finally added (the adrenaline move), it's tied in quite cleverly into the trilogy (Legend - Anniversary - Underworld). Plus, I love how the game pokes in fun at the original, showing that it is not only a remake but much more, with my favourite of these moments being in Qualopec's tomb at the end of the game's first section. Plus, this is probably the first game that I ever 100%-ed without any online guides, so that will always be a fond memory that I'll associate with this game.
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Post by: Outcrier on July 13, 2014, 05:18:24 PM
Prince of Persia trilogy  :tup
Tomb Raider is nice too (never played the remake though, only the PSX ones).
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Post by: TioJorge on July 13, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
Nice! Two very similar series, one building off of the other; both very beloved for myself, in nostalgia and general likeness of the games. I love PoP a lot more, but they've all but killed it recently and in comparison to the new Tomb Raider reboot, the PoP series has seriously fallen behind. I didn't enjoy TTT as much as other PoP games but it was still engaging and fun.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 13, 2014, 06:19:41 PM
I have the feeling that I am the only who doesn't love the most recent reboot. Okay, it's better than the most recent PoP, but that's not saying much, and I'd rank every Tomb Raider from III on onward above the most recent one.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 13, 2014, 06:37:38 PM
Tomb Raider is the adventure game for puzzle enthusiasts who don't have the intelligence to actually play a puzzle-heavy game. It's got the adventure, sex appeal, action, and story of a great action flick...it can hold it's own and go above and beyond when compared to the current action movies. But it's like it dangles this puzzle in front of you and it's like "OMG CAN YOU SOLVE THIS!? I'LL BET YOU CAN'T!?" and a mentally deficient kid comes up and drools all over the puzzle and completes it in a few seconds. It was absolutely horrible in terms of molding the old with the new. You'd have to be a fucking twat to not be able to progress in that game (barring the aforementioned *sadface*).

Yeah, it was pretty horrible in terms of what the serious end-all-TR-series should have become. But that's just it, it's a reboot. For a reboot, it was pretty god damn good. Now, the true tell tale sign will be if the sequel treats us as moronic inbred fucks. If that happens, yeah...I'll consider the new series to be utter shit, under III. Till then...god damn, do you have some imagination to be able to play III in this day and age. I just can't get past those fucking polygonal tits. Spikey motherfuckers...
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Post by: Skeever on July 13, 2014, 06:43:52 PM
Prince of Persia and Tomb Radar - both series which are just completely black holes in history with games. Have no idea why I never have gotten around to playing either!
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Post by: Scorpion on July 13, 2014, 07:06:20 PM
Prince of Persia and Tomb Radar - both series which are just completely black holes in history with games. Have no idea why I never have gotten around to playing either!

On Tomb Raider, it doesn't really matter where you start, though Tomb Raider Legend - Anniversary - Underworld form a loose trilogy and share a game engine, so Legend might be your best bet.

With Prince of Persia, definitely start with Sands of Time. There's quite a lot you won't understand in the two follow-ups, especially Two Thrones if you don't play that one first.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on July 13, 2014, 07:09:48 PM
Never played that Prince of Persia, but I did enjoy Sands of Time
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 13, 2014, 07:13:27 PM
Never played that Prince of Persia, but I did enjoy Sands of Time

Sands of Time is great but I personally loved the 2008 PoP the best.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 13, 2014, 07:22:02 PM
Never played that Prince of Persia, but I did enjoy Sands of Time

Sands of Time is great but I personally loved the 2008 PoP the best.

Yeah... no. I liked the art style, but pretty much everything sucked, imho. Though I did like the ending.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 13, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
To be fair, those are the only two I've played. But I tend to like things that are shitty anyway. So it's all good. :tup
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 13, 2014, 08:09:40 PM
Sands of Time is definitely the best IMO. Just adore that game. But I enjoy them all to some degree. Except the early one.
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Post by: Outcrier on July 13, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
Controversially, my favorite is Warrior Within (the order being WW-SoT-TTT).
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 13, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
Never played any TR, but I bought the PoP trilogy from Costco a couple years ago - all three games for $18.  Only got around to a couple of hours into Sands of Time (I think that's the first?)  Cool game, but I got sidetracked with others.  Really should go back and finish it, and the rest of the trilogy.  Sadly I've got about 10 games that I've partially played, or haven't even started yet - and not enough disposable time to work on that.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 14, 2014, 09:37:25 PM
It's FPS time, baby!

17. XIII (2003)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/XIIIboxcover.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/XIII_game.jpg)
In the first mission of the game.

Why do I love this game so? I don't know. Maybe it's because of the unique graphic style (not really unique, but certainly unique to me when I first played it), because other than that, there's not a whole lot here that separates this from other first person shooters, neither in game mechanics or in the plot (you wake up on a beach, don't remember who you are, but you have a curious tattoo on your body and the police are after you for the murder of the US president) but it's all a lot of fun. Throughout the game, you uncover a huge, world-wide conspiracy to take over the world, and go after The XX, a group of 20 conspirators in high positions helping to stage a coup. Again, an old hat. Rally, what I love most about this game is the unique art style that is closely reminscent of comic book, not only in the way things look, but also in the way things work - for instance, loud noises can be heard but also haven their visual representation on the screen via large bubble that says BOOM! or something similar; like in comic books. So if you're looking for a few hours of mindless fun and a passable plot that you honestly don't care about a lot, then you could do a whole lot worse than this game.

16. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare.jpg/250px-Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare.jpg)

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During out LAN parties at boarding school, this was by far the most-played map of them all.

I think this might be the first FPS that I played, ever. Like Flatout 2, this game was a mainstay during my time at boarding school, and it was rare that a week went by without us playing a few rounds of this game via LAN. Like with XIII, there's not really anything that distinguishes this game from the large amount of other FPS games that are available (though the campaign is certainly one of the better FPS campaigns that I know of, especially that one mission where you have to sneak through a large area undetected - I'm a sucker for that kind of thing), but the insane amount of time that I poured into this game, plus it being the first FPS I played and also the only one that I stuck with for long enough to seriously become a force to reckoned with in multiplayer games will mean that this will always have a place on this list. It's also responsible for one of my proudest gaming achievements ever: killing the entire opposing teams with bullets through walls. Yeah baby!
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 14, 2014, 09:38:15 PM
COD 4 :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 15, 2014, 12:05:19 AM
I think I've played one or two COD games, as I used to often play coop of different new games at my friend's house, but tbh I couldn't tell any of those FPS games apart. :lol The FPS genre just doesn't appeal to me at all, with a couple of exceptions.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2014, 05:59:29 AM
Never heard of the first.  And CoD wasn't a game that interested me.  As an old fart, I'm not into the online modes (I suck at them), and the CoD single player stories didn't interest me.  I think it was on the 2nd or 3rd CoD when I finally got a PS3 anyway, so I didn't want to jump in mid-way through the series.

I latched on to a couple of other FPS games instead.
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Post by: Evermind on July 15, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
I'm not a big fan of CoD series, but XIII is awesome. A lot of fun indeed. :D

Also, please add me to the list of people doing these lists. It looks like I have all the time in the world to prepare, anyway. :)
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Post by: Progmetty on July 15, 2014, 03:49:03 PM
Tomb Raider is the adventure game for puzzle enthusiasts who don't have the intelligence to actually play a puzzle-heavy game. It's got the adventure, sex appeal, action, and story of a great action flick...it can hold it's own and go above and beyond when compared to the current action movies. But it's like it dangles this puzzle in front of you and it's like "OMG CAN YOU SOLVE THIS!? I'LL BET YOU CAN'T!?" and a mentally deficient kid comes up and drools all over the puzzle and completes it in a few seconds. It was absolutely horrible in terms of molding the old with the new. You'd have to be a fucking twat to not be able to progress in that game (barring the aforementioned *sadface*).

what's a puzzle game?
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Post by: TioJorge on July 15, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
...Um...well, a puzzle game would be something like Tetris, Bejeweled, Toki Tori...etc. But I said a puzzle-heavy game, something like the Myst series, Portal, a lot of recent indie titles like Braid. There's tons of examples of games that do puzzles well and Tomb Raider, to me, was not one of them. Not that I want TR to be as puzzle heavy as those games, but the way it presented a lot of the tombs in the game was in a puzzle-based format, you'd have to act out all these events to unlock the main treasure, etc.; so in that aspect, which is pretty heavy for a game called tomb raider, I don't think it was all that great. I still think it's an overall great new start to an old series but they need to challenge us a bit more. There were entire 'tombs' (even the latter, more complex ones) that were just way too easy and quick. I was pretty tipsy when I wrote that though so I'm not sure what my point was.  :lol I do still feel like it was more of an MGS-style 'movie-game' than anything else, however. Which isn't a bad thing at all, I adore MGS and that kind of game but it's not what I want out of Tomb Raider. Even the older games had some really interesting puzzles that reminded me of Myst but this one was more spectacle. Minor spoiler, one of the main fights is even all in one of those action-timed cinematic format...which was kind of disappointing.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 15, 2014, 09:17:45 PM
Don't you just love humour in games? I do.

15. The Secret of Monkey IslandTM (1990)

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Title screen.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/The_Secret_of_Monkey_Island_SCUMM_Bar.jpg)
This is what the gameplay looks like.

Oh man, I hadn't realised how old this game is! Doesn't matter, though, 'cause it freaking awesome, and it such a way that that awesomeness still remains even now, 24 years later. Fuck the fact that the graphics suck, this game is so amazingly fun and random that you can't help but love it. It's a point-and-click puzzle game, with you playing the role of Guybrush Threepwood, who wants to be a mighty pirate and it's completely weird and completely lovable. An example of the humour in this game: to pass a bridge, you have to give something that is eye-catching, but of little worth to the troll guarding it. What does it turn out to be? A fish, of course... which under inspection is revealed to a red herring. Now, it doesn't sound that funny when explained, but trust me (and those that have played this game, back me up!), when you play it, it's completely hilarious almost from start to finish. An awe-inspiring debut to one of the best game series that I know. Just brilliant.

14. Portal (2007)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Portal_standalonebox.jpg/256px-Portal_standalonebox.jpg)

Doe this game really need an introduction? One of the most lauded puzzle games ever, with some great world building and an awesome antagonist, this game is popular for a reason, the reason being sheer awesomeness. The main principle behind this game is astoundingly simple, but throughout the game it is applied to more and more difficult scenarios, causing you to seriously think about what you are doing and to apply trial-and-error to what you are doing more than once. As you advance, precision, timing and creative thinking become more and more necessary, but the difficulty curve never feels to steep or to slow. Really, the only complaint that I have about this game is that it is really quite short - you can play through the campaign in less than 10 hours, even if you haven't played the game before. The Steam version fixes that by adding a few achievements in, including one that is insanely hard to crack, but the main story is still quite short. Still, with everything else being as awesome as it is, that's really complaining on a very very high level and should in no way be held against the brilliance of this game.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 15, 2014, 09:34:04 PM
Is that XIII as in Golgo 13?  If so, what system is it for?  I don't follow any anime, but I loved the Golgo 13 games for the NES.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 15, 2014, 09:45:49 PM
 :rollin Not anywhere near the same thing. It's loosely based on a comic book and is a comic-book stylized FPS.

Cool to see Portal, it deserves recognition and I really wanna see more and something fresh again (I wasn't too hot on the bouncing paint). Also awesome that Monkey Island would be on my list too but it'd be Escape for the PS2. Have you played that one? It's spectacular.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 15, 2014, 09:50:12 PM
I think Portal is the first choice you've made that I can get behind 100% :metal They absolutely nailed the humour for that game.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 15, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
:rollin Not anywhere near the same thing. It's loosely based on a comic book and is a comic-book stylized FPS.

Cool to see Portal, it deserves recognition and I really wanna see more and something fresh again (I wasn't too hot on the bouncing paint). Also awesome that Monkey Island would be on my list too but it'd be Escape for the PS2. Have you played that one? It's spectacular.

I have not played Escape from Monkey Island yet... I only know the first three (Secret, LeChuck's Revenge, Curse) but I was told that the series drops off rapidly after that so I didn't bother. Does it also exist for PC?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 15, 2014, 10:15:57 PM
I like Portal but it nearly felt like a demo compared to the awesomeness of Portal 2 :metal
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Post by: TioJorge on July 15, 2014, 10:16:44 PM
Oh wow, no way, not in my eyes; I mean I haven't played any games since Escape but yes it is for PC and most publications I read back then raved over it and most of my friends did too who were even unaware of the series before that game. I loved it and while I only saw my cousin play Secret, it's still a great evolution of that kind of exposition in a new-age (back then lol) format. I thought it worked awesomely.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 15, 2014, 10:22:24 PM
Two more I've never played.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 16, 2014, 12:14:48 AM
Alright, time for the fogeys to chime in  ;D

Monkey Island is one of the best and funniest series in computer gaming history (besides Manic Mansion, Sam & Max and Day Of The Tentacle). I've played the first four (Secret, LeChuck's Revenge, Curse, Escape) when they came out, and while I quite liked Escape I think the first three are better. Haven't played Tales Of Monkey Island yet but heard good things about it.


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Post by: jingle.boy on July 16, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
Two more I've never played.

Yup
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Post by: Zantera on July 16, 2014, 03:17:42 PM
The first Portal is great, but Portal 2 blows it away IMO. I did play P2 before the original though, so that could affect my opinion, but IMO it takes what was great about P1 and adds even more magic. P1 was very short in comparison, and not as challenging imo. :(
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Post by: Sacul on July 16, 2014, 04:03:05 PM
:metal They absolutely nailed the humour for that game.
Oh yeah, GlaDOs' sarcasm is awesome, and it just gets better on P2.

I like Portal but it nearly felt like a demo compared to the awesomeness of Portal 2 :metal
Totally, the first one is a good game, but the following fells like a movie most of the time, with an excellent story. Cave Johnson's lines deserve an award, specailly that about lemons :lol
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 16, 2014, 04:23:13 PM
 :lol Yeah, I need to go back and play Portal 2 again, what a game!
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Post by: Scorpion on July 16, 2014, 09:27:53 PM
Loving the appreciation for Portal. More people should pick up Monkey Island, the humour in that game is something that many people here would most definitely enjoy.

13. The Cave (2013)

(http://www.structuregaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/7389The_Cave_Concept_Art.jpg)
The playable characters (left to right) are The Monk, The Adventurer, The Hilbilly, The Scientist, The Twins, The Knight and The Time Traveller.

(http://www.giga.de/wp-content/gallery/thecave/26590cave05.jpg)
Playing as The Adventurer.

This is another humour-based point-and-click game made by Ron Gilbert (the creator of the Monkey Island series), so it can only be good. What's really cool about this game is that you have to choose three characters at the beginning, out of seven, so you have to play the game at least three times to experience everything. Every player has a certain ability that is uniquely available only to him/her, like The Adventurer, who can swing across pits using her whip (like Indiana Jones), The Knight, who can make himself invincible for a short amount of time or The Hilbilly, who can hold his breath longer than the others. Another thing that's great about this game is the dark humour, and how it upsets your expectations. As The Monk, for instance, your goal is to become head monk of your order. How? You assassinate the current head monk, of course. The Hilbilly has been rejected by the love of his life, so burning down a carnival is a logical solution. The Twins are annoyed by the rules their parents impose, but don't worry, rat poison in the soup can solve that. And so on. In addition to the plot lines and the multi-faceted nature of this, the graphic style is also quite beautifully done, and each area is given an appropriately unique atmosphere. Highly recommended for anyone who likes puzzle games and weird, off-the-wall humour.

12. Rayman II: The Great Escape (1999)

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Coming across the game's first of 80 Pirate Cages, in the first level, "The Woods of Light".

The first foray of the Rayman franchise into the world of 3D games is pretty damn cool. Playing as the titular, limbless hero, you have to fight off the invasion of the Robo-Pirates under the command of Admiral Razorbeard, by awakening the god Polokus, which can only be done by uniting the four masks of Polokus. The story is fairly ho-hum, but the rest more than makes up for it. The graphics are beautiful, especially considering that this game came out in 1999, it's challenging throughout, but never too hard, both the platforming and the fights here are really a lot of fun and the world-building is beautiful, no matter what it is like, an underground lava temple, a foray through the hights of the trees or an excursion to the sea, everything is beautifully designed in the way that still holds up fifteen years later. And if that's not enough, there's tons of collectibles and you can spend hours searching through the many world offered in order to find every last Lum or the final Pirate Cage. While I enjoy quite a few other entries in the Rayman series, this one is, without a doubt, my favourite of the bunch.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 16, 2014, 09:31:34 PM
Never heard of the Cave, and I've never really played much Rayman.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 16, 2014, 10:02:36 PM
Lovin' this list and these write ups. Rayman 2 FOREVER! Haven't played The Cave yet but I've heard of it and will hafta check it out.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 16, 2014, 11:42:19 PM
Never played The Cave (far too new for me), but I've played Rayman 2. I didn't get too far into it, but what I remember of it was solid. I should finish it off some time.
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Post by: Randaran on July 17, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
Rayman was my first game franchise. I prefer the first and third to the second, though it too is great. It is easily one of my favorite platforming series.
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Post by: Outcrier on July 17, 2014, 05:31:52 PM
While i played Rayman 2 a bit, i always leaned towards the Crash/Spyro series.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 17, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
11. Tomb Raider III: Adventures of Lara Croft (1998)

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Shut up. It was 1998.

Yeah, the graphics of this game are definitely... questionable, all the more now, 16 years later. You know what else is a little substandard? Fucking nothing. This game is awesome if you can get over the admittedly outdated graphics. The four locations aren't just very different in looks, but also in the game mechanics, and the fact that you can choose the order in which you visit them makes the game a little more open. Not a lot, but Tomb Raider has never really been big on open-world, so I'll take what I can get. The story is typical Tomb Raider, but not bad, just nothing special. Plus, this game is really, really challenging, far more than most of the later installments, and to find the bonus level really requires some obsession, not just looking down the path on your left when a sign points to your right, as it seems to be in some games nowadays. Plus, you can explore Croft Manor, which is always fun. Again, this might be a case of nostalgia contributing its part to the rankings, as this was the first Tomb Raider that I played, but that's not the sole contributing factor, and I suspect that I would rate this game similarly high, even if it weren't my first of the series. If you don't mind some questionable graphics, then this is definitely a game that you should pick up, though I wouldn't advise for a Tomb Raider newcomer to start with this one.

Batman: Arkham City (2011)

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One of the game's first boss fights.

Batman is cool, no doubt about that, but in a way that is hard to capture in a video game. Arkham Asylum wasn't bad, but it was definitely missing something that I can't quite name, not even now, after Arkham City fixed that. I guess it's the bigger world? Maybe. I really don't know. To get to the point of this, though, Arkham City is everything that I wanted from Arkham Asylum. Bigger world, more hidden stuff, better fighting system, better bad guy encounters... you name it, Arkham City has probably got it. As you might have noticed by now, I like open-world games, and this one is the epitome of that. The world isn't THAT big (not comparable, to, let's say, Fable), but it doesn't need to be, and it's imagined gorgeously. Nothing is just there, there's small details everywhere that convince you that the makers of this game didn't just slap a big world there to have one, but they really imagined every nook and cranny of it. Playing through the main story and all the side quests is easily a thing of 20 or more hours, and to find all the Riddler trophies hidden throughout (which I never quite managed, I think I was missing one or two) is another endeavor of epic proportions. If you like Batman as a character, then I can't imagine you not liking this game. (It also contains a Catwoman DLC, and it's pretty sweet.)
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Post by: TioJorge on July 17, 2014, 09:40:12 PM
Nice! Two more games I love. TRIII was the first TR I really got into, as it released right as my addiction to games solidified and I played the hell out of it. Those graphics were friggin' gorgeous for '98.  :lol :metal Arkham City is one of my favorite games of this recent generation, and you said what I feel. Except I would add that the game's extra costumes are magnificently magnificent. I cannot WAIT for Ark HamKnight.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 17, 2014, 10:10:27 PM
I tried Arkham City out, but couldn't get into it. I found the combat pretty boring because it's so easy, and the plot seemed to be nothing but forced excuse after excuse to give another Batman villian a cameo in the game.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 18, 2014, 10:17:44 PM
Another two that I doubt anyone has played!

9. Scrapland (2005)

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Ship combat is a large part of the game.

American McGee Presents: Scrapland, more commonly referred as Scrapland 'cause ain't nobody got time for dat is an open-world 3D game set on the asteroid Scrapland, in the robot city of Chimera and all its locations. You play as D-Tritus Debris, a robot that constructed himself from scrap parts and are assigned the position as a reporter upon arrival. You are quite quickly lured into investigating a series of murders, which are only remarkable because the murdered robot's matrices have been stolen from the Great Database, a machine that immediately allows reconstruction upon death, meaning that no-one is overly concerned with the concept of dying on Scrapland. As you work yourself through the game, you uncover a conspiracy with quite a few nice twists along the way. Plus, this is truly open-world, allowing you to go pretty much every where you want at any time and doing what you want, be it challenging other people to races, to combats, blowing up traffic ships and collecting the loot or stealing parked ships and selling them for money. You can explore both in your ship on the outside and on foot in the various buildings all across Chimera, and it's awesome. One thing there could be more of are side-quests, which are nearly non-existant, but given how a) great the story is and b) how much fun you can have even outside any given quest, it's really not a big deal.

8. Monkey Island II: LeChuck's Revenge (1991)

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Side-by-side comparison of the original and the 2010 remake.

The Secret of Monkey Island was great. This one is even better. The whacky humour is back, as are the endearing anachronisms and the hilarious characters, but it's all amped up a notch. Stan the Used Boats Salesman is now a Used Coffin Salesman, because, as he figures, in this business, "unhappy customers are less likely to come back and complain", and he's great again. The puzzles just walk the line between whacky and completely unlogical, and zombie pirate LeChuck is a great villain. Plus, there's a truly baffling ending, which is still the cause of much discussion between Monkey Island fans today, simply due to the fact that on one hand it makes no sense at all, on the other hand, it makes a lot of sense - anyone who's played the game knows what I'm talking about. Plus, you can come across a telephone that allows your in-game character to call the LucasArts helpline. If that isn't cool, I don't know what is.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2014, 10:24:59 PM
Arkham City is a great game.  I'm in the midst of Arkham Origins atm.  Can't wait for Arkham Knight... it's gonna be the catalyst that gets me to ps4.  Great franchise.
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Post by: ariich on July 19, 2014, 03:22:19 AM
Arkham City is a great game.  I'm in the midst of Arkham Origins atm. 
Same! How far in are you? I'm digging it, though it's not nearly as smooth as City (the grappling to travel around the city is really awkward) and the story isn't as engaging.
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Post by: Outcrier on July 19, 2014, 09:42:10 AM
Keep in mind that Arkham Origins isn't by Rocksteady (the Arkham series creators).
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2014, 09:57:26 AM
Arkham City is a great game.  I'm in the midst of Arkham Origins atm. 
Same! How far in are you? I'm digging it, though it's not nearly as smooth as City (the grappling to travel around the city is really awkward) and the story isn't as engaging.

I'm about 1/3 of the way through.  I just played as the Joker, though it was a pretty much an enhanced/interactive cut scene.  I've only noticed a few times where the grappling was like 'WTF... throw it already!'... it doesn't always pickup the grapple point very quickly.  Otherwise, I'm enjoying it.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 20, 2014, 02:21:51 AM
Moving on! Not long to go now!

7. Psychonauts (2005)

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The insanity that is The Milkman Conspiracy, probably the best designed level in the game.

If there is one person in the gaming world that has not been involved with a weak game yet (some are better than others, sure, but none are bad), it's Tim Schafer, co-creator of the Monkey Island series and known for other awesome games like Grim Fandango or Day of the Tentacle. This game further proves that rule - it's amazing. It's a platformer, but oh man the design is frickin' glorious. You play as Raz, as young boy aspiring to become a Psychonaut, someone who can enter people's minds and psyches to obtain information, manipulate them or free them from their personal demons. Throughout the game, you explore a series of real world settings and mental settings, and while the real world doesn't really offer that much variety, that's more than made up for by the mental worlds, which are about as different as they could possibly be. Some of these worlds include the explosion-happy armed-to-the-teeth mind of a former soldier, the Spanish alleyways of a painter possessed by bullfights or the M. C. Escher-esque landscapes of The Milkman Conspiracy, set in the head of a paranoid asylum guard. Along the way, you gain various psychic abilities, ranging from Invisibility to Telekinesis to Psi-Blast, which you can use to attack pretty much everything. Add to that a fairly interesting plot with some nice twists and turns, great characters and some awesome humour, and you have a winning combination that just might be my favourite of all Tim Schafer games.

6. TRON 2.0 (2003)

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TRON was a fairly awesome movie from 1982, about a guy that gets digitalised into the inside of a computer and fights viruses and stuff there. In 2003, we got an awesome sequel in form of a video game, creatively titled TRON 2.0, which the most recent TRON Legacy promptly discounts as canon.  :censored Anyway, that game sucked and this one doesn't, so I don't care much. Back on topic, this game is cool. It's a fairly straight-forward first person shooter with some platforming elements thrown in, but again, the environment is crafted so expertly that I just don't give a fuck about that. It all takes place within the digital world, and there are so many cool things that represent digital processes in a creative way (viruses corrupt you, security programs try to kill you if you don't have the correct identification, you need proper authorisation for pretty much anything) - basically, what makes this game so entertaining is that everything that you come across is explained by a counterpart in the digital world, and most of it actually makes a lot of sense. The graphics are a little outdated, but due to the way that they are presented, much like in XIII, that doesn't really matter at all. Plus, you have the light racers here that were made famous in the movie and that returned in TRON Legacy, and they're one of the few obligatory mini-games within a game that I don't despise, which is another plus.
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Post by: Zantera on July 20, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
Psychonauts never clicked for me. But I played it quite recently and never got engaged into the story and the graphics looked kinda lame on my computer. I know it's from 2005 and graphics aren't everything, and that's fine, except I didn't really get hooked on the story. If I had discovered it when I was younger and at the time it came out, I might have really liked it more.

Overall I gotta say your last few picks have had some really colorful games, judging from the pictures. Tron and Scrapland both look colorful and exciting.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 20, 2014, 04:05:14 AM
Psychonauts never clicked for me. But I played it quite recently and never got engaged into the story and the graphics looked kinda lame on my computer. I know it's from 2005 and graphics aren't everything, and that's fine, except I didn't really get hooked on the story. If I had discovered it when I was younger and at thei time it came out, I might have really liked it more.

That's understandable. If I hadn't played Psychonauts with... I think I was 13 or so when I first played it, then I doubt that I would love it so much, but it just struck a chord with me, and that's probably a large part of why I love it so much, even today - though there was a time when Psychonauts topped my list.

Overall I gotta say your last few picks have had some really colorful games, judging from the pictures. Tron and Scrapland both look colorful and exciting.

That's a good thing, right? :D I have heard that as a negative in the past quite a few times ("It's doesn't have anything going for it, so they decided to just make it colorful to gloss over that." was the reaction of a friend to whom I lent Scrapland ages ago), so just checking. Anyway, I totally get that most people don't have a lot of time to play games, but most of the games on this list are sufficiently old enough so that you could probably find them rather cheaply, if you ever want to check them out.
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Post by: Zantera on July 20, 2014, 04:48:15 AM
I can only judge those games on the picture you provided, but they look colorful while still looking detailed and rich. There's something quite special about large and epic games where you find yourself stunned by the sheer size or epic feeling of your surroundings. I'm struggling to come up with examples, but I remember the first time I played WoW (which was also my first MMORPG) and just how stunned I was. I had played for 2-3 hours and explored one tiny island when I found out that the whole world in the game was like 100 times bigger than what I had seen in that short time. That's a sense of being in awe almost, you wanna play the game but you also can't help just looking at the environment.  :D
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Post by: Scorpion on July 21, 2014, 02:36:09 AM
5. Alice: Madness Returns (2011)

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First section of the second level.

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The Dollhouse in all its glory.

This is one of the most disturbing games that I have played. Other games are far better at all-out horror, but no game I know of is as twisted and dark as Alice: Madness Returns. Based on Lewis Caroll's character, the games' Alice is an adult, who has lost her family in a fire that she believes herself to be the cause of. Throughout the game, you traverse different locations in Wonderland, which are all beautifully designed, in order to find out more about a corrupt entity destroying Wonderland, and with it, your mind. While starting out beautiful, the levels get darker and more twisted as you go along, with everything culminating in level 5, The Dollhouse, which is probably the single most unsettling level in a video game that I have ever played. Yes, it's nothing spectacularly original, as far as the mechanics go (it's pretty much just as simple platformer), but holy hell, the story and the atmosphere throughout are really something else. Recommended for anyone that likes some psychological horror in their games - in my opinion, it doesn't get much better than this in the genre.
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Post by: SystematicThought on July 21, 2014, 02:39:33 AM
I'm late to the party, but it's nice to see XIII get some. Considering the way it ended, it's a shame it will never get a sequel. My favorite part in that game was when you infiltrate The XX's meeting in that castle. I remember thinking how mysterious, intriguing, and fun the story was.
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Post by: ariich on July 21, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
Alice: Madness Returns intrigues me. I've never played it, but your description does make it sound pretty awesome. I don't mind the gameplay not being particularly innovative as long as it's not annoying, but story/atmosphere are what I like the most in my games. Might have to check it out!
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Post by: Scorpion on July 21, 2014, 03:32:55 AM
If you're interested in how the game looks, have a look at these two videos.

Alice: Madness Returns - Teaser Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR8wXsvUrBg)
Alice: Madness Returns - Launch Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFrs5UGB-ns)

The first one was released pretty early and the game doesn't really look quite that good, nor do the areas shown actually exist in the game, but the real game is similar in tone and style.
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Post by: Evermind on July 21, 2014, 10:07:01 AM
I've never played anything from your Top 10, but I'm still intrigued to see the rest of your list. I also like the pace your list has, I never felt the updates take too long.  :tup
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Post by: ariich on July 21, 2014, 10:17:32 AM
Oh yeah, meant to say, I enjoyed Psychonauts quite a bit. Not amazing by any stretch, but a lot of fun and really good considering its small budget.

And I'm appalled that I still haven't played the Monkey Island games, they look right up my alley.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 21, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
I also like the pace your list has, I never felt the updates take too long.  :tup

This verily, I feel that I may live to see the rest of the entries!

Also Psychonauts is so amazingly awesome and is a big reason why I love adventure games so much (and also emphasis on puzzles). It was a sleeper hit to be sure. But yeah for the most part your list is pretty obscure and I like that.
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Post by: Sacul on July 21, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
Sacul, can you put me on the waiting list, I posted on the front page but was never added.
Holy crap, how did I miss you twice? Just added you, sorry :angel:.

Oh, and btw, in what console did you play that Alice game?
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Post by: Cable on July 21, 2014, 05:39:18 PM
I've never played anything from your Top 10, but I'm still intrigued to see the rest of your list. I also like the pace your list has, I never felt the updates take too long.  :tup


+1 across the board.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 21, 2014, 08:25:48 PM
Oh, and btw, in what console did you play that Alice game?

PC. Not sure if I mentioned that already, but I have only ever played on PC. I never had any other gaming consoles.
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Post by: Cable on July 21, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
Oh, and btw, in what console did you play that Alice game?

PC. Not sure if I mentioned that already, but I have only ever played on PC. I never had any other gaming consoles.


Curious if a couple of games will appear very soon here, based on your time periods of games (two decades+), and your exclusive system. But your list has been a great surprise, so I'm not expecting it! It also goes to show how many games almost fly under the radar on PCs.  :-\
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Post by: Scorpion on July 21, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
4. Dishonored (2012)

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Some of the most difficult enemies throughout the game, especially as they cannot be brought down non-lethally - the Tall Boys.

As you probably know by now, there are a few things that, if executed properly, almost always make me speak positively about a game. One of these things is an open-world mechanic. The other (though that hasn't come up that much) is a game mechanic that allows the player to make choices throughout the game, with real consequences following the choices made. And while Dishonored isn't really very open-wold, at least not compared to proper open-world games, there are enough elements of the genre, like huge settings and plenty of side-quests to tickle my open-world fancy. Plus, the way you can make choices here is pretty great, and unlike other games with choices, where there's a different cut scene at the end, here the consequences are a lot more realistic. If you kill lots of people, some side-quests are blocked off, there are more rats and weepers around the city and many other people approach you in a different manner than if you go through the game killing few people (which is denoted by the Chaos Factor - High Chaos means lots of killed people, Low Chaos means few killed people). But enough of that, because that's not the only cool thing about this game. The whole atmosphere is amazing - the setting is pretty much a steampunk version of Victorian London (though in-game, it's called Dunwall, but eh), and the whole world is designed so amazingly that I can't help but be enraptured by it. In addition to that, there is a whole back-story to the world that's just waiting to be uncovered, lots of side-missions, super-powers that never make things too easy - especially when you encounter enemies that have them too... really, everything about this game is amazing (except the AI dialogue, which is embarassing). And if you want a challenge, try going through this game on the hardest difficulty without killing anyone. It can be done, but it is really really hard... though very rewarding if you manage it, and requires a whole lot more thinking than the "let's kill everything in our path" approach. Really, that's what's so great about Dishonored, in a nutshell - there's two completely different games hidden in here, who just happen to share a plot, depending on the approach that you choose.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 21, 2014, 09:18:38 PM
Now this is an update I can appreciate the hell out of.  Fantastic game.  Although, I was quiet disappointed with the final 'boss'... I just slowed time, and blinked right up to him and BOOM!  Haven't gone back to it, but I suspect sometime I will.  It was a terrific game.  Very much a feel like Assassin's Creed, but much more complex gameplay, story and how to use your powers.  Loved this one.
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Post by: Sacul on July 21, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
I don't know if I missed something while playing it, but it was a huge disappointment for me. The main story is quite short and nothing too original. I heard that if I finished it on 6 hours or less, I was doing it wrong and not exploiting the side-quests and the powers. So I replayed the game, trying to find all the damn stones and "side-missions". But what I found was that with 2 or 3 powers was enough, and that the only secondary quests were a) unlocking a strongbox, b) rescuing somebody, or c) killing some of those assassins with powers. And then I found the game to be really linear.  Killing affects people in the city? Man, besides enemies, I've only seen 2 or 3 civilians on the whole game.
But I didn't expect that plot twist on the middle of the game - it was certainly interesting. I was thinking of giving the DLCs an opportunity since they seemed interesting, though. The bottom line is, I don't think is a bad game at all, but it didn't survived to my hype, it wasn't what I expected.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 21, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
I couldn't get into this one. I didn't dislike it, but I didn't have any motivation to continue the story past about the halfway mark. It's cool and I enjoyed my time with it but I didn't love it. There were other games too similar to it that I liked a lot more. Nice write up though and perhaps one day during the inevitable droughts I'll revisit it and hopefully finish it!
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Post by: Onno on July 22, 2014, 02:47:20 AM
Late to the party, but following this. Lots of interesting games on your list that I haven't played yet Tom :tup
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Post by: Skeever on July 22, 2014, 04:36:09 AM
Really awesome list so far!
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 22, 2014, 07:36:51 AM
The other (though that hasn't come up that much) is a game mechanic that allows the player to make choices throughout the game, with real consequences following the choices made.

Have you played Heavy Rain?  Pretty much every choice you make effects something else in the game down the line, and there are more than a few endings.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 22, 2014, 08:20:52 AM
The other (though that hasn't come up that much) is a game mechanic that allows the player to make choices throughout the game, with real consequences following the choices made.

Have you played Heavy Rain?  Pretty much every choice you make effects something else in the game down the line, and there are more than a few endings.

I have not! Sounds like I'd enjoy it though, I'll have a looksie into it.
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Post by: soundgarden on July 22, 2014, 10:01:19 AM
Definitely agree with Dishonored.  A great art-style / culture in a game always draws me in and Dishonored really did it well.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 22, 2014, 11:45:46 PM
3. Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (2004)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Prince_of_Persia_-_Warrior_Within_Coverart.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bt9jkrC_5h8/UFCd0cniqdI/AAAAAAAAAiQ/-oBhi19oygg/s640/prince-of-persia-warrior-within-20041206042613239-1003765.jpg)

This is probably an unpopular choice for favourite of the Prince of Persia series, let alone Top 3 of all games, but I don't care, because this game is awesome. Yes, it's a lot more gory than the first one, and the soundtrack isn't as good, but I don't really care about that, because I really really love the story, and the atmosphere. The whole thing is set on only one island, but it's really big anyway, has plenty of awesome locations that differ quite a bit from each other, making it a varied game. Plus, there are some really awesome time-travel elements here, not just the "I can rewind time when something goes wrong" from the first game - the whole story is based on time-travel, its consequences and its inherent dangers. It's also a lot longer than you probably think, because... well, let's just say there's a part about half-way through the game where you think it's over, but it really isn't. What else? Oh yeah, combat is really really good, with there being quite a few cool combos, the option to pick up the weapons of fallen enemies, and there are a few really good, varied boss fights throughout the game - plus, multiple endings. Though what sort of sucks is that the ending that most people will get is actually the wrong one, because the sequel continues from the other one. But I digress. This game is awesome, has a great, intricate plot with a lot of time-travelling that is used in an awesome way, and it's just all-around a lot of fun.
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Post by: Zantera on July 23, 2014, 02:17:32 AM
I've never played any of the Prince of Persia games.  :-[
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Post by: Bolsters on July 23, 2014, 02:30:00 AM
Dishonored is a game I've been meaning to check out, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

I remember playing the original Prince of Persia back in the day (not sure if I played the Apple or DOS version), but haven't played any others.
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Post by: masterthes on July 23, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
Yeah, I remember playing the old PoP on the NES and getting way frustrated with it. Haven't tried any of the follow ups since lol
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Post by: ReaperKK on July 23, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
I remember Tomb Raider 2 being such a hard fucking game when I was a kid
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Post by: Outcrier on July 23, 2014, 09:32:46 PM
3. Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (2004)

This is probably an unpopular choice for favourite of the Prince of Persia series, let alone Top 3 of all games, but I don't care, because this game is awesome.

You're not alone, Scorpion  :biggrin:
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Post by: Genowyn on July 24, 2014, 08:57:21 PM
Aw man it's about to get real weeaboo in here soon.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 24, 2014, 11:27:44 PM
2. Beyond Good and Evil (2003)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/BGE-cover.jpg)

(http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2011/03/14/Beyond%20Good%20and%20Evil%20HD%20-%20Screenshot%205.jpeg)
One of the game's first boss battles, against a creature whose photo is worth 3 grand.

This game is one of the overlooked greats that never really got the attention that they deserved, in my opinion. Nearly everyone who has played this game will probably agree with me that it is completely awesome, but the thing is that not many people have played this game. So anyway, what makes this game so great? Well, first of all, the story is completely awesome. It really draws you in and makes you interested in what is happening at the moment. You play as Jade, a reporter on the small mining planet Hillys, that is under attack from an alien force known as the DomZ - but not everything is how it seems, and you are tasked with uncovering a conspiracy that threatens the destruction of Hillys from an unlikely source. Armed with your camera, you have to sneak into secure locations, avoid being detected as pretty much all the enemies are way out of your league and gather proof of the conspiracies to draw the people of Hillys onto your side.

Another thing that is so great about this game, as I already mentioned here, is the stealth. Now I recently saw a video that shows me that it is possible to just say "Fuck stealth" and kill your way through this game, but it is very very costly in terms of health stuff, and it takes so much fun out of the whole thing that I don't get why you would do that. For me, the main part of fun here is the stealth, and while the AI isn't really THAT great, it's still a whole lot of fun, thinking of different way to sneak past enemies, knowing that one mistake will probably mean your death.

The third great thing here is a pretty unique gameplay mechanic that I enjoy a lot. In most games you get money for raiding and stealing stuff, or maybe enemies drop it when they die. That exists here as well, but the amounts you get that way are pretty slim. No, your main source of income is to take pictures of every species of animal on the planet, because the science centre is doing an inventory. I think there are 64 different animals that you can photograph, and the rewards range from 100 units to 3500 units. Plus, some of the animals are hidden in a way that is just plain evil and you really need to think about certain things to find that last elusive species. Later in the game, you get an animal detector, but that just shows you location on the map, and often times that's not enough to get a good photo. Finding all the animals is a rewarding and interesting on-going quests, and it's a lot of fun.

Last point (because this write-up is so long anyway, though I could probably go on for a while more): the soundtrack is absolutely gorgeous. It always fits the mood of the section you are in, and it is always great. My favourite part of it would either be the music of the first fight scene or the gorgeous music set to the one of the most heart-wrenching cutscenes in the game (those who have played the game know what I mean), but really, that's like picking your favourite children. The whole thing is great, and it never lets up. It might be worth getting the game for the soundtrack alone, that's how good it is.

In case my endless gushing didn't clue you in: buy this game! It's awesome throughout, the only downside being a camera that's a little weird sometimes, and it's available on Steam for not a lot of money. Do yourselves a favour and check this one if you don't know it, I've never met anyone who has played this and doesn't like it.
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Post by: Zantera on July 25, 2014, 12:02:49 AM
I haven't played this. :O
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Post by: Sacul on July 25, 2014, 08:31:09 AM
I have this on my must-play list, I hope to play it soon. I think there is a PS3 HD Edition, right? What are your thoughts on it? Because I really want to play this game now after reading your writeup :coolio
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Post by: Scorpion on July 25, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
I haven't played the HD edition, but I've heard that, while it looks a little better throughout, the controls are a little glitchy and the camera does some weird stuff, but that's what people have been saying about the PC version. I have no idea if that transfers to the PS as well - since I don't have one, I never bothered finding out.
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Post by: Full Speed on July 25, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
I have the HD version and I never had many problems while playing it. Awesome game either way.
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Post by: masterthes on July 25, 2014, 08:53:43 PM
With a lot of LucasArt point and click games being featured, I wonder if Maniac Mansion will be number one? 
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Post by: Genowyn on July 25, 2014, 09:34:20 PM
With a lot of LucasArt point and click games being featured, I wonder if Maniac Mansion will be number one? 

How could that be, considering that Grim Fandango is clearly the best of those? :p
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Post by: Scorpion on July 26, 2014, 01:16:30 AM
One more thing on BGE: anyone who is out to play this game, please don't let the final boss ruin it for you. A warning ahead of time: he's a fair bit harder than anything else in the game, and there is one part where it isn't exactly clear how you have to beat him, though it should be pretty obvious is if you look at what is happening a little, though the very final part of that battle is still a pain. Now I'm not the biggest fan of that boss myself, but I've read reviews and I've heard people talk about how the final boss completely ruined the game for them, and this game doesn't deserve that, because apart from that one fight, there's really next to nothing to complain about.

And on that cheerful note, here's number 1! The moment you have all been waiting for, etc., etc...

1. Portal 2 (2011)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Portal2cover.jpg)

(http://www.macgamerhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Portal-2-gameplay-9.jpg)

Portal was great - so great that it was easy to overlook some of the game's... well, not exactly flaws, but points where you could improve things quite a bit, which was mainly the length of the game. Portal 2 did what I thought to be impossible: it took a brilliant game as basis, wrote a sequel to that which fixed the game's only problem, and made a game twice as long which is still as entertaining as the first game is, all the way through. Like with the first game, there is a very small cast of characters, and your character is mute, so you only have two three talking characters (one of which you never see), but oh man, how awesome are they? GLaDOS is back, and she's as delightfully evil, snarky and sarcastic as always (that moment in Chapter 4 where the calls your parents is completely hilarious, and one of my favourite moments in any game ever), with the new robot Wheatley being a counterpoint to GLaDOS's ice-cold precision with his loveable bumbling incompetence. And Cave Johnson is just as awesome and deranged as you'd expect the founder of Aperture Sciences to be. His speech about lemons has already become internet-famous, and there's a good reason for it. So yeah, if you take all the elements that made Portal great, and add only more awesomeness on top of that, in a longer game with some brand-new mechanics which lead to whole boat-load of puzzles that require quite a bit of thought sometimes, you have a recipe for perfection. And hats off to Valve for pulling off that recipe successfully.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 26, 2014, 01:32:30 AM
I haven't played any of your top 10!
I've heard about Portal a lot, so that's probably not an obscure or controversial choice, and it looks like something I'd enjoy more than most other recent games.
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Post by: Zantera on July 26, 2014, 01:42:49 AM
Portal 2 would be really high for me as well. It takes the good parts of the first game and makes a game that's much better. Cave Johnson is my personal favorite, and my favorite part of the game is navigating the halls where Cave Johnson is talking.

"Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men. Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts."  :lol
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Post by: Scorpion on July 26, 2014, 01:43:25 AM
Blob, I think you'd like it a lot. I mean, you have a sarcastic robot that ridicules you for being fat and adopted throughout the game. How awesome is that?

Anyway, here's the whole list.

25. Flatout 2
24. Fable: The Lost Chapters
23. Titus the Fox: To Marrakesh and Back
22. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
21. Eets - Hunger. It's emotional
20. Worms 4: Mayhem
19. Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
18. Tomb Raider: Anniversary
17. XIII
16. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
15. The Secret of Monkey Island
14. Portal
13. The Cave
12. Rayman 2: The Great Escape
11. Tomb Raider III: Adventures of Lara Croft
10. Batman: Arkham City
09. Scrapland
08. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
07. Psychonauts
06. TRON 2.0
05. Alice: Madness Returns
04. Dishonored
03. Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
02. Beyond Good and Evil
01. Portal 2
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Post by: ariich on July 26, 2014, 02:07:33 AM
Portal 2 would be really high for me as well. It takes the good parts of the first game and makes a game that's much better. Cave Johnson is my personal favorite, and my favorite part of the game is navigating the halls where Cave Johnson is talking.

"Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men. Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts."  :lol

:rollin The Portal games are amazing, great choice.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 26, 2014, 02:09:52 AM
I think I prefer the humour and quirkiness of the first Portal, but the second isn't far behind, and it really stepped up the gameplay.
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Post by: Evermind on July 26, 2014, 04:41:00 AM
Portal 2 is good, but I think I like the first just a bit more.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 26, 2014, 07:23:32 AM
Portal 2 has one of the coolest endings in a video game I have ever seen.
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Post by: Scorpion on July 26, 2014, 08:00:01 AM
Yeah, that ending's complete lunacy.
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Post by: Sacul on July 26, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
I really can't explain enough my love for the Portal series, they're just too awesome. The first time I played them, I didn't care too much for what GlaDOs was saying, but damn, now I really want to replay those games - and get some lemons. By the way, amazing list, lots of great modern games :tup.
Oh, and I'd like to say that I can post something about the database, with statistics and stuff, but the only game in common between both lists is Batman Arkham City, so we'll have to wait till the following top finishes.
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Post by: orcus116 on July 26, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
So I found this at my parent's house and I couldn't resist:

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1889041_10101643484261179_631504982153151095_o.jpg)
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Post by: Genowyn on July 26, 2014, 07:55:50 PM
So should I get started or are we leaving discussion for Scorpion's last post for a while?
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Post by: TioJorge on July 26, 2014, 08:12:07 PM
Well, it's not like people can't comment on both! But I've no power, so...I'll just...

AWESOME list! Wonderfully written, great timing between them. Good stuff all around. I loved Portal 2 but I still haven't finished it because GOD DAMN THOSE FUCKING PAINTS! Once I get to the third paint you get (can't remember the colors...to many...), my brain just turns off. It's just too god damn much. I play games for two reasons: To escape reality, and to be enamored. Once I have to start thinking more than any type of thinking I've done throughout school, it goes beyond gaming.  :lol It's just work at that point. My brain isn't cool enough to actually ENJOY doing some of those puzzles, it's nucking futs, really. But I'll have to one day check it out again unless they come out with a Portal 3 in the next few years.

On to the next, I say! We've still got some catching up to do.
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Post by: Genowyn on July 26, 2014, 08:36:02 PM
Alright, I guess I might as well get started. True, no reason people can't discuss both.

As a version title, might I recommend something about Weeaboos, or something to the effect of "Japan: The List".

25 - Little Busters!
PC - Visual Art's/Key - 2007
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Little_Busters_game_cover.jpg)

We're starting with something extremely weeaboo-y, and a type of game that many of you have probably never played, so I guess a little explanation of the visual novel genre is in order. Typically a visual novel is a japanese game in anime style, most of the game being just text, pictures, music, sound effects, and in newer games, voice acting (and sometimes small amounts of actual animation, but this is pretty unusual). By design, these games tend to focus pretty much entirely on story, because there's not much else to sell a game on...unless it's an Eroge (arrow-gay). This means 'erotic game', and though Visual Novel and Eroge are not equivalent terms, many Visual Novels are Eroge. Some of these suck ass, some of them are pretty great. Though this game is not an Eroge, there are a few on this list, but please believe that in these cases, it's really an in-spite-of thing, rather than a because-of thing. Most of the gameplay in a Visual Novel is choices, either of actions or dialogue. Some of these choices don't really matter, but usually they will influence the plot, specifically, they will lead you onto one of the game's routes - different story paths (and endings) that usually coincide with ending up with one of the game's romantic interests. Most of the time (and in all the ones I've played), you're playing as a guy with female romantic interests. Of course, the inverse also exists (these are referred to as Otome (maiden) Games), and homoerotic ones as well.

So.

Little Busters!, as I have mentioned before, is not an Eroge (though they did release an 18+ version called Little Busters Ecstasy (or EX), which I have not played). As with most games, however, it does have the route structure based on which of the many romantic interests you end up with. First you play through a common route, where you meet all the characters and make choices which determine which girl you'll end up with. The common route focuses on building a baseball team (a convenient way for the game to have you meet all these interesting ladies), and features something relatively rare for a Visual Novel: minigames! The first, of course, is a baseball game. Well, really more of a batting practice game. It's surprisingly complex, you have a lot of control over where the ball goes if you're good at it (I wasn't), and you raise the stats of your teammates by sending the ball toward them. You also can make your pitcher learn new pitches by hitting the baseball at cats (don't ask). The other primary minigame is a battle system, where you are occasionally given an option to 'Wander', which will allow you to challenge other characters to fight you. Although it's pretty random, there is some complexity to it as well, with stats that can be improved through items you earn by winning battles. There's even a secret boss that can be challenged if you complete certain objectives on second playthrough or later (though I've never gotten close, he's insanely powerful). At the end of the common route, you play a baseball game, which you will win or lose depending on the stats you've managed to develop. I won on my first playthrough, but after that I started focussing entirely on combat stats, which I assume is why I lost every single time. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you win or lose, after this game you move on to the route for whichever girl you end up with. After completing all of the routes, you are then able to play through the real ending.

Minigames aside, the main thing that makes this game stand out, of course, is the writing. As usual from Key, it is side-splittingly hilarious, and also soul-crushingly depressing. The characters are also great, mostly anime stereotypes on the surface with hidden (and dark) depths that are revealed in the course of the story. Well, most of them. Futaki's just a bitch I don't care what anyone says. The story is phenomenal, and cleverly integrates the route structure into the narrative itself (can't really explain what I mean without spoiling the whole thing). Writer/Creator/Composer Jun Maeda's music really shines in this game as well.

I don't expect anyone to go out and try this game if they've never played a Visual Novel before (save that for one of the later ones), but if you have ever played and enjoyed one (even, say, Ace Attorney) this is a great one. It has had an anime adaptation, and it's pretty good, but many of the best scenes (both funny and sad ones) are missing, and as with anything else, the original version is better.

24 - Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
PS2 - Atlus - 2003
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Shin_Megami_Tensei_III_Nocturne.jpg)

So back to the semi-mainstream, this one is a JRPG. If you've never played a Shin Megami Tensei game before, I'm so, so sorry. This one isn't even the best one. Not even close. You're gonna hear a lot about SMT in this list, and if even one of you picks up an SMT game for the first time and enjoys it I will be very glad.

Nocturne is a really great starting point to talk about SMT, though, because as compared to the other games in the series I'm going to mention, it's the most faithful to the basic Shin Megami Tensei formula, that is: You are a person who for whatever story reason has gained the ability to summon demons (in this game it's because you get turned into a half-demon thing), and you must travel around post-apocalyptic Tokyo, befriending and/or killing demons you encounter in battle, and fusing the demons you have into more powerful ones to help you beat the extremely difficult and completely ruthless bosses (MATADOR).

Nocturne is the first (but not last) game in the series to feature the Press Turn system, which in my opinion is the most brilliantly perfect JRPG battle system ever. If you play well, you can abuse the system and win battles. If you play poorly, the system punishes you and you die. Unlike most games in the series (and most JRPGs), though, the secret super-hard boss battle is not THAT hard. I mean, the process of putting Pierce on every demon is grueling, and the process to unlock him is tough, but once you're ready for him he's a pushover, much unlike the nightmares you have to contend with in Digital Devil Saga and Persona, but more on them later.

As any SMT fan knows, one of the best things the series has going for it is composer Shoji Meguro, and this game is no exception. The music fits the tone and aesthetic of the game perfectly, and the boss theme is just the tits, guys.

Unfortunately, the story's a little meh in this one, which is unusual for the series as a whole (in my opinion), but the great gameplay, music, and atmosphere more than make up for it.

23 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
PC/XBox 360/PS3 - Bethesda - 2006
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/The_Elder_Scrolls_IV_Oblivion_cover.png)

Gonna upset some people, I think, but this is the only Elder Scrolls game on the list. Maybe a bit of nostalgia glasses on this one, but I really love Oblivion. That's not to say I don't love Morrowind and Skyrim (it is to say I don't love the earlier ones, though), but every Elder Scrolls game has its pros and cons. My ideal would be a game with the story of Morrowind, the graphics of Skyrim (or better), and the system from Oblivion. If it weren't for the goddamn thing where you can miss with an attack that clearly hit the target in Morrowind because of a bad roll, it would be the one on the list, instead.

Anyway, what I love about Oblivion is hard to completely pin down. I just feel like it's a good middle ground between the extremes of Morrowind (a hard RPG system wearing an Action-RPG hat) and Skyrim (an Action-RPG that's getting pretty light on the RPG elements). You have stats that matter, but hitting stuff actually matters too. Most of the rest I can say about this game I could say about any modern Elder Scrolls game, the open world is great, and the amount of character customization is excellent. Something I like to do is invent actual characters for my...characters. One guy, a stealthy bow-based assassin character who dabbled in poisons had the internal monologue of a serial killer in my head. I had a character who was a noble knight, and a mage who wanted to become an immortal lich. Again, like any game in the series there are also great unscripted or unintended moments. One of my favourite moments playing Oblivion was hearing the automatic NPC dialogues get a little odd, as one NPC approached another and said, "Hi!", to which the second NPC said, "Hi!". In response, the first NPC said "Bye!", and the second said "Bye!". On the other side of it was when I was doing the last mission for the Thieves' Guild, alone, in the dark, in the middle of the night. I don't know if they intended for the section where you sneak into the tower from underground to be so creepy and imposing, but it was, for me, and I really loved it.

(just an FYI, this is one of only three games on this list that were not made in Japan.)
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Post by: Mister Gold on July 26, 2014, 08:52:58 PM
So I found this at my parent's house and I couldn't resist:

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1889041_10101643484261179_631504982153151095_o.jpg)

Quite possibly the greatest video game ever! A total masterpiece! :metal
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Post by: orcus116 on July 26, 2014, 09:00:15 PM
I concur. It's the best Zelda game by a longshot.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (Pg. 5)
Post by: Sacul on July 26, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
(just an FYI, this is one of only three games on this list that were not made in Japan.)
It means it's gonna be a really interesting list then. I have only played Oblivion, but couldn't get pass the beginning, sorry. The game mechanics feel so old for me  :lol.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 26, 2014, 09:42:10 PM
Whoooaaaaa! THWEET LITHT ALREADY BRO!

I absolutely adore Nocturne and am both genuinely delighted to see it and dismayed to see it low on the list (despite that it's still 'high' overall).  :lol It is perhaps my favorite RPG of all time and this is coming from a longtime and foaming-at-the-mouth- Mega-Ten fan so I'm highly biased. Oblivion has some great memories for me despite not really getting into the series till Skyrim. It was my personal proof that American developers weren't completely retarded when it comes to RPG experiences, despite the fact that I considered the game nearly sacrilegious when I originally heard about it. RPG ELEMENTS IN AN ACTION/ADVENTURE GAME!? YOU SHALL BURN FOR YOUR SINS!

Great start!

P.S. FUCK YOU MATADOR. FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: ariich on July 27, 2014, 02:32:51 AM
Unsurprisingly Japanese start to the list. :lol

Haven't played the first two games, but Oblivion is great. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on July 27, 2014, 09:37:57 AM
I have not played many Japanese games that are not made by Nintendo. This will certainly be an interesting list.
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Post by: TioJorge on July 27, 2014, 01:05:36 PM
Awesome avatar, Randaran!  :metal I've got the curse brand tattoo'd on my man boob.  ;D Absolutely adore Berserk.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 27, 2014, 05:28:35 PM
Berserk  :heart

I wish there were a good Berserk game I could put on my list.

Update will be whenever I feel like in the next few hours. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: orcus116 on July 27, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
Whoops, I just realized I got the two video game threads confused yesterday. Sorry folks.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on July 27, 2014, 09:50:37 PM
How fucking dare you!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 27, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
Boys, throw him in the pit.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 27, 2014, 09:59:46 PM
22 - Digital Devil Saga
PS2 - Atlus - 2005

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Shin_Megami_Tensei_-_Digital_Devil_Saga_Coverart.png)(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Digital_Devil_Saga_2-1.jpg)

Atlus returns, already. Technically, this is not a Shin Megami Tensei game. In Japan, it was released as Digital Devil Saga - Avatar Tuner, and here as Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga. That said, I consider this a Shin Megami Tensei game. The spells have the same names, the monsters are the same, the music is by Shoji Meguro, and we see the Press Turn system again. So yeah, this is an SMT game. The only difference is that instead of summoning demons, this time, YOU ARE THE DEMONS! Ancient meme use? Yes. But it is true, you really are the demons. Or people who turn into demons.

To be clear, this time I'm talking about both DDS and DDS2, but before you cry foul, rather than two games it's really more like one game on two discs that weren't released at the same time. The second game picks up right where the first left off, and the only major differences in the system are the addition of an extra type of equipment, and a mostly superficial change to the levelling system.

In true SMT form, we have really great music here. Really, really great. Dat bassline in The Hunted, dat riff in Comrades, dat Harihara, dem reprises and remixes in the second game. Also in SMT form, we have ridiculously brutal secret bosses. The hardest of these in the first game is the Demi-Fiend, otherwise known as the protagonist of the previously discussed Nocturne. This boss is really cool, because his battle theme is the random battle theme from his game...which is sort of an insult, if you think about it. What, I don't register as a boss to this guy? And then he takes a turn.

And no, you do not register as a fucking boss to this guy. Not even a late game random encounter. You're like when he is doing some side quest clean up and compendium finishing before the final boss, and he gets a random encounter in the first dungeon. My characters are all max level, with specially built skill sets, and painstakingly maxed-out stats. This guy can still wipe the floor with me in a single turn. I've never beaten him. He is a challenge fit for only the most insanely dedicated and meticulous of gamers, and although you need to be pretty goddamn dedicated and meticulous to even unlock this boss, he's a whole order of magnitude nastier. I've unlocked most of the secret bosses in the second game, but I'm nowhere close to ready for them.

If I have to choose one of these games or the other as the best, I would say the first game.


21 - Saya no Uta
PC - Nitroplus - 2003

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/SayanoUta.jpg)

So here we have another Visual Novel, and this one is an Eroge. As I mentioned before, I love this game in spite of the pornographic content, not because of it.

However, unlike many Eroge I don't think you could take the erotic scenes out of this game and have it remain as effective as it is. Mostly this is because this is actually a horror game, and these scenes add to the horror and disgust element after certain revelations.

All that being said, this game is a work of art. It's only about eight hours long, and only features two choices. Despite this it is one of the most romantic, disgusting, beautiful, horrifying, hopeful, and depressing stories ever written. Saya no Uta, which translates as Song of Saya (or Saya's Song), tells the story of a young man who is left with an altered perception of reality after a car accident. Basically, everything becomes disgusting to him. Everything he smells, smells like rotten meat. Everything he tastes makes him gag. People look like hideous monsters, awful Lovecraftian horrors, writhing tentacles with too many eyes and mouths, and their voices sound like awful screeching. All people, except for one girl: the titular Saya.

I can't explain much more than that without spoiling, but the best thing I can say about the story is that it's written by Urobuchi Gen. Some people may recognize this name as being the guy who wrote the extraordinary anime Puella Magi Madoka Magicka, the light novels Fate/Zero, adapated into an equally extraordinary anime of the same name, as well as a bunch of other great anime. If you're familiar with any of his work, you know how effectively he can rip out your heart and make you watch him eat it. He's an evil genius, and in my opinion this game is his best work.

Also there is a really crappy American comic book adaptation, don't even touch it.

20 - Tales of the Abyss
PS2/3DS - Namco Bandai - 2006/2012

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Talesoftheabyss_us.jpg)

The Tales of... series is immense, but Tales of the Abyss is definitely the best in the series. While later games have improved upon the battle system, this game is still notable for two primary reasons (these will come up a lot in my list): Story and music.

For one, Tales of the Abyss has a dark story. Not as a dark as anything in the Shin Megami Tensei series, but one of the darkest games in the Tales series (I think Vesperia might take the title of darkest, considering the main character straight up murders a bunch of people in cold blood), and pretty dark for JRPGs in general. It deals with some interesting themes, and I think is a lot more focussed thematically than many games in the genre. One of the most brilliant parts of the plot is a spoiler, but I will discuss it in smalltext for those who don't care: The villain is trying to avert a prophecy that fortells the end of the world. His plan is to make an exact copy of the world, but this process will destroy the original world. The part I really like is that it's made clear near the end of the game that the villain realizes that he's actually fulfilling the prophecy, but has resolved to see it through, partly because of a 'well I've come this far' attitude, and also because he's kind of crazy. I can tell I haven't conveyed this very well because it sort of comes across as stupid the way I explained it...but in context of everything it works great, trust me.

As mentioned before, the music in this game is awesome. The boss theme, "The Fang that Wants Blood", the theme for recurring fights against the for-lack-of-a-better-term evil party, "Awkward Justice", as well as the whole sequence of final boss themes are just amazing.

If you've never played a Tales games before, this is a great one to try out. If you have a 3DS, that version should be pretty easy to find.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 27, 2014, 10:25:18 PM
Great write ups, I didn't enjoy DDS1/2 as much as most other SMT titles, but it was still extremely fun and addicting when judged alone and I enjoyed my time with them; but I actually haven't replayed them since the first time...I may have to boot up my emulator soon. It's also tied as my favorite SMT soundtrack (with SMT IV, surprisingly). Haven't heard or played Saya, but the logo immediately reminded me of Mushishi so  :tup.  :lol And I really love Abyss, it's my second favorite behind Symphonia; great memories with all these games. I have a feeling if I ever do a list, mine might be kinda boring since already we have similar titles (and some of the same...just different placements).  :laugh: :tup

Also agreed on the idea that the DDS games were meant to be played as one big game. I'm actually thinking about getting the pentagram logo as my next tattoo.  :police:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Sacul on July 27, 2014, 10:26:26 PM
I've heard some really good things about the Tales series, specially this game and it's story. It has gained a high position on my to-play list now :tup. Also the rest of the titles on this update seem really interesting.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 27, 2014, 10:32:17 PM
Shoji Meguro didn't compose the music for SMT IV, it was done by three other people.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 27, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Yes, I know, poor wording on my part, I should have said favorite SMT soundtrack. Hence my 'surprisingly', but yeah that wasn't conveyed well.  :tup Oops! Edited.

Yeah when I found out, a few weeks before SMTIV's release, I was really, really crushed. Like, surprisingly so.  :lol I love the music SO much and listen to it on a daily basis. But I really, really love SMTIV's music, it captured that techno-apocalyptic vibe that Meguro did perfectly almost just as well. In some cases I think he did just as well for the vibe of IV.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 27, 2014, 10:34:56 PM
Persona music is the best them

edit: Also just noticed I neglected to smalltext the part I said I would -_-
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 27, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
o/

Hellz yuh. My favorite among the Persona games, soundtrack wise is 4. Gotta love dat SMILE. Dat Corridor. Dat Secret Base. THE SECRETEST OF BASES! Raaah it's all so good. Damn this list, it's gonna force me to replay every SMT title and spin off by the end of it, I know it.  :lol  :coolio
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 27, 2014, 10:44:10 PM
Pretty sure you will be the only one caring about SMT entries unless UMH sticks his head in here. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 27, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
Hey man, I'll care enough for EVERYONE!  :azn:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on July 28, 2014, 10:49:30 AM
About Saya: you should have mentioned Urobuchi Gen earlier. A mere mention of his name is enough to gain my interest.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: ReaperKK on July 28, 2014, 05:15:13 PM
Catching up on the thread right now. I haven't played Portal 2 even though I own it, maybe someday when I have some time. Same goes for Oblivion.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 28, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
Picture sizes are all wonky this time.


19 - Devil May Cry 3
PS2 - Capcom - 2005

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Devil_May_Cry_3_boxshot.jpg)

I think that most fans of the Devil May Cry series would agree that the third game is the best one. The first game is a close second, but I generally feel like the third game is a more refined version of the original, although the first game does get a bit of a bonus for the horror vibe that was pretty much dropped in future entries (since the first game was originally conceived as a Resident Evil game).

DMC3 stands out, to me, for a few reasons. One is the return of the enormous, fully connected explorable area from the first game, but on a bigger, more badass looking scale. Second is that this is the first game where Dante's attitude is really turned up to eleven, and it's all delightfully cheesy in a B-movie kinda way. The addition of styles was also great (though I pretty much always use Trickster), this plus the larger arsenal at your disposal allows for a great deal of freedom in the way that you play. And what would a Devil May Cry game be without awesome boss fights? Devil May Cry 2, I guess. This game has a lot of really great, challenging, fun boss fights, standouts include the very final boss fight, the fight against Lady in the library, and the succubus-bat-lightning lady. At higher difficulties these fights require insane precision and attention, but I love a challenge, and beating these enemies is very gratifying.

The music is also pretty cool, but not a really major factor in my appreciation for this game. This time it's all gameplay and attitude, baby.

18 - Planescape: Torment
PC - Black Isle - 1999

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/PlanescapeTorment_1.jpg)

So low? Yeah, sorry. But we've left Japan for a moment to look at the best RPG ever made outside of the Land of the Rising Sun. This game is not the most attractive, it certainly shows its age, and I'm not generally a fan of D&D based combat, but neither of those things are what this game's about. Planescape Torment is all about story and character.

It's hard to articulate how amazing the writing in this game is. It's been compared to a novel before, and I think that's very fair. I'm hard pressed to name other games that have been as emotionally engaging as this one. My absolute favorite moment in this game has to be one of the stones in the Sensate area. For those who haven't played the game, these stones allow someone to experience someone else's experiences which have been recorded onto them. One stone puts you into the mind of someone your character knows. I won't go into detail, to avoid spoilers, but goddamn...definitely one of the most emotional moments in any video game. You really have to read it for yourself.

I feel like my total lack of understanding of the D&D ruleset that was in place when this game was made increased the difficulty for me. I died a lot. The last dungeon was a nightmare. I don't know if I actually beat the final boss, if I did I think I had to cheat. I'm not entirely sure if this game is really hard or I'm just bad at it, but the story is what makes this game great, not the gameplay.

17 - Guilty Gear
Arcade - Arc System Works - 1998-Present

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/28d28013cd4cb4ffa2a26aa24aa82084.jpg)

Back to Japan for a game that's about as different from Planescape Torment as possible. Where Torment is thoughtful and subtle, Guilty Gear kicks your door in, bangs your girlfriend, and sets the house on fire, all while playing a sweet guitar solo. This game is what happens when anime and heavy metal have a baby. Literally. Half of the cast are references to rock and metal, see: Eddie, Testament, Venom, Slayer, Millia Rage, A.B.A, Chipp Zanuff, etc etc.

Of course, the music matches. Some standout tracks include Awe of She (the GGX version, not XX), Keep Yourself Alive, Keep the Flag Flying... pretty much the entire soundtrack is excellent.

Combine that with the most hype fighting game this side of Marvel vs Capcom, and you have a winner.

And if I have to choose one game in the series as my favourite, I'll go with Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus, though when Xrd comes out later this year that may change.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 28, 2014, 11:48:26 PM
DMC3!  :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 29, 2014, 12:14:40 AM
Damn. I remember my grandpa always played Planescape: Torment when I was really young.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 29, 2014, 09:50:41 PM
16 - Resident Evil 4
PS2/GCN - Capcom - 2005

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/resident-evil-4-ps2-.jpg)

I will admit that I'm not really a fan of the Resident Evil series in general. Resident Evil 4 stands out as a masterpiece in a pretty mediocre series (in my opinion).

This game is one of the greatest games of the Survival Horror genre. In my opinion, the core of Survival Horror gameplay is resource management. It may seem odd, then, to claim that a game which makes bullets and healing items relatively easy to find is a paragon of the genre, but the resource you need to manage is different. No, not Ashley. It's space. If enemies get up on you, many of them can kill you in one hit, so the whole thing is about managing to keep your distance. You have one bullet left in your clip, what do you do? Do you shoot right away and reload? Do you back off before shooting to give you more time to reload? Do you go crazy and try to knife the zombie to death? You're constantly evaluating these choices, where in, say, Silent Hill, you're always weighing whether this monster is dangerous enough to use one of your scant bullets on, or is your health low enough that you need to use a precious healing item. But more on that series later.

For a horror game, you've gotta talk about the monsters. The most pants-shittingly terrifying creature in this game is of course the Regenerator. I'm sure everyone who's played the game just shivered. The awful noise these things make is the worst part. There you are, walking along, thinking "Hey, maybe the worst thing I'll need to kill in this room is a guy with a scythe that pops out of his neck", when that awful breathing sound starts. You begin to carefully search for the dangerous beast, and then you bump into it after rounding a corner and it hugs you to death. What a bastard.

There is one bad thing about this game, and I've already mentioned her. While this game has a pretty good execution of the escort mission concept, escort missions suck. They only sort of work in a horror game because you have a second character whose life you fear for, but it's generally pretty easy to keep Ashley safe, since her awful shrieking will let you know she's in trouble. The parts of the game where Ashley is not with you are the best parts. The part where you have to play as her can go to hell.

15 - G-Senjou no Maou
PC - Akabeisoft2 - 2008

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/G_Senj14D0_no_Ma14D0_cover.jpg)

Another Eroge~! Unlike the previously mentioned Saya no Uta, this one could really do just fine without the explicit sex. For story reasons the characters would still need to sleep together, but it doesn't need to be shown in great detail. In this game I actually skipped through the sex scenes because the story was so engaging. I would think "Why are you fucking NOW?! THINGS ARE HAPPENING". I think this a lot during these games.

G-Senjou no Maou translates as "The Devil on G-String", and that's like a musical G-string, not what you were thinking. It references the main character's love of classical music, and Maou, or the Devil, is the pseudonym the villain uses.

In this story, the main character is the adoptive son of a yakuza boss, and takes part in the administration of his father's business. One day a new criminal, Maou, begins to move in on their territory, and the main character is asked to help find him. This story is a brilliant psychological crime thriller, with a somewhat unusual structure. Rather than a number of routes, the story progresses through chapters, each focusing on a crime committed by Maou that relates to one of the game's heroines. Certain choices made during these chapters will allow you to basically bail out of the story at that point with that girl, but I don't recommend it. None of the side routes compare to the main route for the primary heroine. This is a dark, disturbing, beautiful, romantic story, and a really great experience all around.

14 - Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
PS1 - Game Arts/JAM - 1999

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Lunar1box.jpg)

Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete on Playstation is one of my favorite RPGs of all time. The music is absolutely outstanding, the battle system is fun and challenging, the storyline manages to be original despite being full of JRPG tropes.

The villain has to be one of my favorite parts of this game. He is an absolute ham. Every opportunity he has to chew the scenery, he takes. He's also one of the original long-haired pretty boy villains (keep in mind the original version of the game came out in 1992).

As I mentioned before, the battle system is also a highlight, for two main reasons: First, in something still relatively uncommon in JRPGs today, both enemies and player characters will move around the battle field to do their attacks (or even just for strategic purposes). Where this really becomes in important factor is the area of effect attacks. In most JRPGs spells hit one thing, or everything. This is one of the few I can think of where there are Area of Effect attacks. (and if some of you are thinking, hey I know another game with that, there will be another game with that on this list).

The music is another highlight, Noriyuki Iwadare created some classic JRPG music. Just listen to that world map theme, or the final boss theme. It's just so perfect. 

As you might have guessed, because I cited the hammy villain as a plus, this game is also really, really funny. The writing is great throughout; the characters are all well-developed and have interesting personal arcs in the game.

The sequel is also great, and has one of the hardest final bosses (with one of the most badass final boss themes) ever, but I think the first game is generally better.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Outcrier on July 29, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
Resident Evil 4 is a masterpiece but i wouldn't say it's good as REmake any old RE when it comes to Survival Horror.
That said, if leaving genres out of this, it's the best game in the series imo.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Outcrier on July 30, 2014, 12:09:48 AM
Resident Evil 4 is a masterpiece but i wouldn't say it's good as REmake any old RE when it comes to Survival Horror.
That said, if leaving genres out of this, it's the best game in the series imo.

Ah, good, what i just did  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 30, 2014, 12:47:49 AM
RE4 will always be one of my favorite games of all time, and isn't my favorite RE but is up there around 2 or 3 depending on the day. LOVE me some Lunar! I tried going back and playing it and it's better kept in my nostalgia but it's still one of my fondest times.

Really enjoying the write ups.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Full Speed on July 30, 2014, 05:14:49 AM
I really liked RE4 and it was the only one I've ever got deep into as well.

Lunar was awesome, forever since I played it though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Cable on July 30, 2014, 06:06:45 AM
I loved RE4, played the Wii version. Changed some things in the formula, and it worked.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on July 30, 2014, 11:18:15 AM
I have not played any of these, but Lunar looks like something I would be interested in. I will definitely try it some time in the near future.

Sacul, could you add me to the waiting list?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Sacul on July 30, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
RE4 :metal
Sacul, could you add me to the waiting list?
You're in now.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 30, 2014, 10:47:45 PM
13 - Pokemon
GB/GBA/DS/3DS - Nintendo - 1998-2014

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Pokemon_SoulSilver.jpg)

So, really, do I have to pick one? I have to at least pick two: HeartGold and SoulSilver. I don't even know where to start. Everyone knows why I love Pokemon, right? It's Pokemon. That's why.

Need more? Okay. The combat system manages to be extremely complicated while being easy to understand on the surface. The graphics are always charming, and while the designs of the Pokemon themselves haven't always been the best (Gen V), the Gym Leaders, Elite Four, and evil team members and leaders always look cool.

Here's yet another game/series where the music is a highlight. I've always been partial to battle themes, and here is no different: the Gen III gym leader, Gen IV champion, HG/SS champion themes… all brilliant. Cynthia's might be my favorite in the series.

If you haven't played a Pokemon game before, what? Come on.


12 - Final Fantasy IX
PS1 - Squaresoft - 2000

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Ffixbox-1.jpg)

Yes, Final Fantasy IX is the best Final Fantasy game. No, it isn't VI, but it's close. It's certainly not VII.

The first reason is the character development system. I really enjoy learning abilities from equipment, and it adds a bit of an extra challenge needing to hold on to inferior equipment so you can learn an ability (though I can see how some people might find this frustrating).

The story is great, though it goes a bit off the rails in the final act, the early parts of the game more than make up for the sorta weak finish. The story focuses a lot on character, and the interactions between the party members are much better written than most of the rest of the games in this series.

Of course, this is Final Fantasy before Nobuo Uematsu's departure, so we have excellent music. The boss theme is one of my favorites, and we also get excellent tracks like Assault of the Silver Dragons. Just excellent.

11 - Touhou
PC-98/PC - Team Shanghai Alice - 1996-2014

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/reimu.jpg)

I had no idea what to use as a picture here, so I just went with a picture of Reimu since that's who I play. I picked this one because it was sorta cool and not too enormous.

I'm really gonna defend not choosing a single game, this time. If you've ever played a Touhou game, you can back me up in saying each game is about forty-five minutes long. Gun to my head… I suppose it'd be Subterranean Animism. (but the worst one is definitely Highly Responsive to Prayer, being that it's a goddamn shitty Arkanoid-thing and not Touhou at all)

But as I said, I'm really talking about the series as a whole (well…the whole-numbered Windows danmaku games not including Phantasmagoria of Flower View).

Talking about what's great about Touhou, you really have to start with the gameplay. You can look at videos and screenshots all day and not even really grasp how insanely difficult, ruthless, frustrating, and yet rewarding these games are. Sure, the first twenty times you bash your head against Okuu or Kanako you want to smash your computer, but when you see that bitch finally explode, there's no better feeling on earth.

Visually, the best part about the game is certainly the Spell Cards. Again, this is really hard to describe. A video can sort of express what I mean, but boss fights are basically just a matter of trying to stop yourself from getting killed by beautiful, colorful shapes. Yuyuko is an excellent example: the most terrifying butterflies on earth. Byakuren's spaceship attack is awesome to look at while insanely tense to try to stay alive in. Suwako also has some crazy looking attacks.

And what discussion of Touhou could be complete without talking about the music? Rather than try to express how great it is in text, I'll just leave a few titles you can check out on Youtube: Necrofantasia, Native Faith, Nuclear Fusion, Lunatic Princess, Voyage 1970, True Administrator… the list goes on and on and on. You may also find versions of these songs in numerous other genres. The music from this series is so great there are multiple bands that do adaptations of Touhou music, Demetori is a great example for these forums, as they take a progressive metal approach to it, but there's also IOSYS and Silver Forest, who have made pop songs based on Touhou. And of course, there's Bad Apple!!. Great song, great music video. This is one example where the cover has completely eclipsed the original song (partly because it's from a PC-98 game), I don't even know what the original version of Bad Apple sounds like.

It takes very little commitment on your part to try a Touhou game. If you want to start with an easy one, I recommend Imperishable Night. It was the first one I managed to beat with no continues. On easy, that is.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Outcrier on July 31, 2014, 12:55:14 AM
Pokemon is a consistently great series and Final Fantasy IX, one of the best FFs  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Cable on July 31, 2014, 05:57:18 AM
Hmm, interesting to hear FFIX is your favorite. I appreciated the system of skills as well, especially after VIII. I also liked the fixed character classes and magic abilities.

I also didn't beat Ozma, and never will at this point. Did anybody else?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on July 31, 2014, 08:37:35 AM
Pokemon :heart

I love how the battle system is far more complex than it looks, especially once you get in to competitive battling. It is easily one of my favorite RPG series. I can literally spend hundreds of hours playing and still be engaged.

You're in now.

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 31, 2014, 09:08:37 AM
I also didn't beat Ozma, and never will at this point. Did anybody else?

I have, once. Never got Excalibur II though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Outcrier on July 31, 2014, 10:36:49 AM
Still talking about FFIX, main quest aside, i always loved the Chocobo Hot and Cold sidequest. Digging Chocographs, hunting for treasures all over the world, getting new types of chocobos, fun stuff  :)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: ariich on July 31, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
FF IX is amazing, probably my second favourite behind VII.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 31, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
I notice FF9 is almost unanimously loved, but it's actually one of my least favourites. I still enjoy it though!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Evermind on July 31, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
Touhou is probably the only game I've played from this list (except Oblivion), and the series are certainly ruthless. I have enough pride to not click "easy" or "normal" every time, and it turns out to be a great amount of suffering. Seriously, this game requires a lot of concentration and patience. In the past, I used to play it before my Starcraft II matches, along with osu! to get warmed up.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on July 31, 2014, 01:22:33 PM
When I first heard about Gold and Silver being remade...I just about peed myself. Like literally, I was like "OH MY GOD YE-" *runs to bathroom*. It made my year, and it's still one of my fondest memories apart from popping in Blue so in my grey brick those many eons ago. It's a great remake and started an awesome trend in 'remake an oldie right after a new gen'. I've still got some of my original Pokemon from the game that I transffered game-by-game and still use them in my X/Y games and will hopefully be able to in OR/AS.

Final Fantasy IX is up there with my favorite FF games, but I don't think it's ever been my absolute favorite. It's definitely got something special about it and I really fell in love with the medieval world they created; it was and in some ways still is my own personal perfect definition of what I think of when I think 'Final Fantasy' for some reason. I've always thought that vibe just fit like a glove for the era it came out and despite being overshadowed by the PS2's release, still was a great moment in gaming history. Like other games that came before it, it was an awesome last hurrah for a system.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Obfuscation on July 31, 2014, 03:31:12 PM
I really like some of the games in this list so far. Your top 10 should be awesome. Also, I would like to be added to the wait list please.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on July 31, 2014, 04:59:36 PM
Touhou is probably the only game I've played from this list (except Oblivion), and the series are certainly ruthless. I have enough pride to not click "easy" or "normal" every time, and it turns out to be a great amount of suffering. Seriously, this game requires a lot of concentration and patience. In the past, I used to play it before my Starcraft II matches, along with osu! to get warmed up.

Oh boy :lol

I've never beaten any game on hard. I've beaten most of them with no continues on easy (except for Perfect Cherry Blossom because FUCK that, and Ten Desires and Double Dealing Character because they're so new), and I've beaten...I think just Imperishable Night on Normal? I've only even managed to get to Remilia once, certainly never beaten her. Hardest thing I've done is get through like six of Mokou's spell cards before dying. I love Touhou but honestly I suck pretty bad.
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Post by: Genowyn on July 31, 2014, 08:21:19 PM
10 - Blazblue
PS3/Xbox 360/Arcade – Arc System Works – 2008-2014

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/BlazBlueChronophantasma.jpg)

Another fighting game, and again I don't really feel like I can pick a favorite. I would tend towards saying the most recent iteration, but to be honest I probably played Continuum Shift the most, so go with that.

Basically, Blazblue is like a shinier version of Guilty Gear with an extremely complicated plotline. The story mode of Blazblue is so long that for the most recent game, Chrono Phantasma, has a story mode so long that skipping through all of the dialog so I could unlock a character took something like four hours. Maybe fifteen minutes of that was fighting. Now, the story is great, it's just maybe a bit too great, too in depth and based around character development and huge conspiracies to work for a fighting game. This is probably because it was originally intended to be a JRPG.

I have to imagine the Blazblue RPG would have been one of the best ever made, and probably ranked even higher on this list, but it is what it is.

Blazblue's music is composed by Daisuke Ishiwatari, who also composed the music for Guilty Gear. Here, we see his craft elevated to a whole new level. Liberal usage of choirs and keyboards along with badass metal riffs and face melting solos make the soundtrack for this game one of my all-time favorites. A few tracks to check out: Rebellion, Queen of Rose, MOTOR HEAD, Gluttony Fang, Plastic Night, X-Matic… again, much like Guilty Gear, pretty much the whole soundtrack is great.

Gameplay-wise, the combat is slightly less face-paced than Guilty Gear, but still makes Street Fighter look like slugs on heroin. It has a pretty innovative button scheme. Like many fighting games, it has buttons A, B, and C, by default Square, Triangle, and Circle on Playstation, which equate to Light, Medium, and Heavy attacks. The D button (X) is where it stands out. This button has a completely different function for each character. For the main character Ragna, attacks done using the D button drain health from his enemies. For Rachel Alucard, pressing D and a direction causes wind to blow in that direction which she can use to move faster. Carl Clover uses his D button to control a robot-like companion in battle.

The unique and creative uses of the D button allow for huge diversity between characters, and no character plays like another. Even Hazama and Terumi, who are actually the same person and whose A, B, and C attacks, as well as their supers, are mostly the same, are made distinct by the completely different functions of their D button. Where Hazama uses his D button to launch chains allowing him to propel himself across the screen or keep enemies at a distance, Terumi uses his to drain his opponent's super meter. Hazama has to play defensively, using his mobility to press any small advantages he can take, where Terumi is relentlessly aggressive, using his draining to fuel near-constant use of super attacks.

The game looks great, with high resolution sprites and a high framerate, and much of the writing is also pretty funny. Obviously if you don't play fighting games, this won't be your thing, but I do, so it is. :lol

9 - Shadow of the Colossus
PS2/PS3 – Team ICO – 2006/2011

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Sotc_boxart-1.jpg)

Oh god, everyone has played Shadow of the Colossus, right? If you haven't, stop now. Go play it. Go. No questions, just do it. Done? Great.

So what an extraordinary game, right? Describing it, or even watching someone else play it, cannot compare to playing it yourself. That feeling when your hand actually gets tired from clinging to a Colossus for so long, that epic music that plays as you fight, the beautiful, enormous, diverse landscape, the subtle but extremely effective story. Anyone who's played this game knows what I'm talking about.

My favorite experience in this game comes from fighting the flying worm Colossus. Early on in the fight, I lost my horse. If you recall this fight, you will recall that your horse is pretty much essential. However, I was resolved. I would not give up this fight. I fought for so long, I memorized the pattern that the Colossus flew around in, and eventually was able to position myself ahead of time so I could intercept him and hit him with arrows, or climb on him when he starts to fly low. I think it must have taken at least an hour, but I finally won. To my vast relief, my horse returned after the boss.

8 - Fate/Stay Night
PC/PS2 – Type-Moon - 2004

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Fate-stay_night-1.jpg)

Another Visual Novel. Another Eroge, though another one where it works just fine (better, even!) without the porn. In fact, this game was re-released on PS2 with all the porn removed (obviously), and it was so popular people made patches for the PC version to turn it into the PS2 version.

This is really a classic Visual Novel. If you've ever played one (besides Ace Attorney), this is probably it. Fate is an extremely popular franchise, with numerous spinoffs, both a prequel (the previously mentioned Fate/Zero) and a sequel, a number of anime…

A probably incomplete of Fate media:

Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Fate/Unlimted Codes, Fate/Tiger Colissuem, Fate/Extra, Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, Fate/Zero, Fate/Apocrypha, two anime adaptations, a movie adaptation, countless fan works… Let's just say it's one of the most popular things you've never heard of.

As a Visual Novel, of course the writing is the main draw, and writer Kinoko Nasu really shines in this game. From awesome action scenes, to touching romantic scenes, to funny scenes, to funny scenes which were supposed to be erotic, to highly disturbing scenes, to highly disturbing scenes which were supposed to be erotic… Really just great all around. Dude's not great at the erotic scenes though, which is why the game really benefits by having them cut out, and again there's the whole "WHY NOW?!" thing, as characters insist upon having sex even though the world is ending around them.

The story is divided into three routes, but unlike most games like this, you are forced to play them in a certain order. Each route has a different romantic interest, storyline, and villain. First is the Fate route, with Saber as the romantic interest and mostly about laying the groundwork of the world. The second route is Unlimited Blade Works, with Rin as the romantic interest and a focus on character development. Then comes the divisive part: Heaven's Feel. Heaven's Feel is my favorite part of the game. Some (so-called) fans don't like Heaven's Feel, maybe because it's when all of the really dark, fucked up, disturbing revelations are made, or maybe because of the romantic interest, Sakura. She's sort of a clingy psycho, but she's not the good part of the route… or rather, she is, because she's also (spoilers) the villain (spoilers). Much to my dismay, Heaven's Feel has never been adapted, preventing me from showing it to my friends who won't play Visual Novels. A new Fate/Stay Night anime was announced to come out this year being made by UFOTable (who did the Fate/Zero anime), and I had hoped it might be an adaptation of Heaven's Feel, but instead it is an 'original story based on the original game'… *sigh*

Anyway, the reason for this forced order is that the main character goes through development over the course of the three routes. This is part of the reason the original anime adaptation is so disappointing, as it only covers the Fate route, wherein Shirou is mostly a useless misogynistic idiot, causing many anime fans to look at me funny when I cite him as my favorite character.

The game's also got some great music, "The Golden King" and "Emiya" particularly. Emiya is the theme that plays whenever the main character is about to do something badass, and The Golden King is the theme for my favorite of the three villains.

If you're going to try out a Visual Novel, try out this one. Make sure you get the Realta Nua patch, which adds additional content from the PS2 version (voice acting, more pictures, extra scenes) as well as the option to remove the erotic scenes.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on July 31, 2014, 11:00:24 PM
Shadow of the Colossus is really something special. :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: ariich on August 01, 2014, 12:40:54 AM
Oh god, everyone has played Shadow of the Colossus, right?
I haven't. :(

The HD version is on my list to buy though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Parama on August 01, 2014, 12:46:31 AM
Fate/Stay Night is pretty great, yeah. UBW was my favorite route by a good margin if I recall, though it's been so long that I wouldn't be able to tell you why.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on August 01, 2014, 07:24:57 AM
I am currently playing Fate/Stay Night in anticipation of the upcoming TV series. The dialogue is particularly well done.

Quote from: Genowyn
A new Fate/Stay Night anime was announced to come out this year being made by UFOTable (who did the Fate/Zero anime), and I had hoped it might be an adaptation of Heaven's Feel, but instead it is an 'original story based on the original game'… *sigh*

http://myanimelist.net/anime/25537/ (http://myanimelist.net/anime/25537/)

Ufotable is adapting Heaven's Feel into a (what I hope to be a series of) movie(s).
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on August 01, 2014, 08:48:02 AM
Wow that looks like it's really recent news. Should be great.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 01, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
Oh god, everyone has played Shadow of the Colossus, right?
I haven't. :(

The HD version is on my list to buy though.

Do this immediately! Such a fantastic game. It's a simple story but it's spectacular.
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Post by: Obfuscation on August 01, 2014, 10:50:24 AM
Shadow of the Colossus  :heart :heart :heart :heart :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Nothing else can be said about it besides how beautiful and unique of a game it is.
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Post by: Genowyn on August 01, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
7 - Civilization V
PC - Firaxis - 2010

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/CIVILIZATION-V-FRONT-OF-BOX.jpg)

One-thousand, six-hundred and twenty-two hours. That's about sixty-seven and a half days. That's how many hours I have logged on Steam playing Civilization V. I don't think that counts playing in Offline Mode (which I do a lot), but a pretty big portion of the tracked playtime (near half) was done by my brother, so it probably evens out.

Anyone who's played Civilization knows why this is. Any fan of the series can recall deciding to play Civ at ten o'clock one weekend morning, to find that it is now eight PM by the time they have finished their session. If I could somehow get paid to play Civ by the hour, I'd be rich.

Describing what's so great about Civilization is sorta difficult. It's essentially the best board game ever made, so complex you need a computer to play it. The gameplay is easy to pick up but extremely complex to master. I've put so many hours into this game, and I'm still not really confident playing on difficulties higher than Normal.

If you play well, the game rewards you. Playing well means different things depending on the Civilization you play as, and how you intend to win the game. For most civilizations seeking to win a scientific or cultural victory, it's generally a good idea not to be aggressive in warfare. However, playing as Assyria, you can learn free technologies you haven't learned that other players have when you capture their cities, making war against technologically superior civilizations a viable strategy. As the Aztecs, you can gain culture by killing enemies, so an aggressive Aztec player can generate enormous amounts of culture (of course, as of the most recent expansion this is no longer sufficient to win a cultural victory, but aggressive play would still allow them to purchase a great number of policies conducive to great person generation).

There are two main ways I like to play. The first is a cultural victory. This involves creating great works of art, which produce tourism for your country. Tourism allows your culture to overtake the culture of other Civilizations, until eventually they are all "Wearing your blue jeans and listening to your pop music." I love playing this way, because the concept of a small, peaceful (but armed to the teeth) nation of artists and philosophers conquering the world with poems and music is excellent. I also like to play for diplomatic victory, which in practice is more like an economic victory. You achieve this by being voted World Leader at the United Nations, which is mostly accomplished by allying with as many City-States as possible, allowing you extra votes (because it's VERY difficult to get other Civs to vote for anyone but themselves, because why would they vote for another player to win the game?). The easiest and most reliable way to keep City-States as your allies is by pouring huge amounts of gold on them, so having a powerful economy is pretty essential. As an added benefit, much like in the real world having the biggest economy in Civ means you can also having the biggest military, and no one wants to piss you off too badly if you control not only enough votes in the UN to keep you Embargoed for eternity, but also so much money that if you stopped trading with them it would cripple their economies.

Either way I play, I tend to take a similar stance on warfare: do NOT fuck with me. If you declare war on me, that war will not be over until you're out of the game. I will take every city you have, exterminate your religion and replace it with my own, steal your artwork and put it in my museums, and turn your cities into money farms.

Of course, none of these are the only (or best) way to play. From a diplomatic perspective, my vengeful wrath isn't very wise. Civilizations don't like it when you wipe other players off the map. Burning their whole country and a few cities is a smarter way to get a civ off your back for pretty much the rest of the game, the diplomatic consequences are much less.

I'm semi-apprehensive about the new Civilization: After Earth set to come out this fall. It could be great, or it could suck. One thing I like about Civ is it introduces me to some ancient civilizations and leader I had never heard of, and I really enjoy the historical element. I love that a really good player could have the Zulus discover Flight in the year 1570, or to mirror reality by having a centuries-long feud between England and France. One thing I love to do is play one of the maps based on a real place and fill it with Civilizations who belong in that area. The Mediterranean is a great one, you get Rome, Greece, Spain, France, Carthage, Byzantines, Ottomans, Arabia, Portugal, Egypt, Venice, Morocco, and you can stretch it a bit with countries like Babylon or Assyria. I hope we get a Civilization VI in the next few years, because After Earth won't replace classic Civ for me. (And this is the last game made outside of Japan)

6 - Ace Attorney 3
DS - Capcom - 2007

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Pw3-cover-english.jpg)

Hey, another Visual Novel! And this one some of you have heard of! The Ace Attorney series is definitely the most mainstream Visual Novel released in the west, and it's really great. Obviously the gameplay is a bit more in-depth than most visual novels, since you need to gather evidence and cross-examine witnesses, but at its core the Ace Attorney series is comprised of Visual Novels.

As with most games in the genre, the focus of these games is really the story, and my favorite story in the series comes from Ace Attorney 3. For one, every case is good. Every other game has at least one sub-par case, but I enjoy all five in AA3. Part of the greatness of this one is that the most of the cases form a continuous story, which I feel is the best one told in the series so far. Though Edgeworth is my favorite Prosecutor, Godot is a close second, and his storyline is outstanding. Of course, as an Edgeworth fan, one of my favorite parts of the game is when you get to play as Edgeworth in the beginning of the fifth case.

The villain of the game's main story is probably my favorite. Though the villain of the fifth game has a higher 'lives ended and/or ruined' count, he was a professional. This game's villain is mostly motivated by greed and vengeance, and overall a much better character.

Composer Noriyuki Iwadare makes his second appearance on this list, in the first of many games he composed for in the series. The soundtrack is outstanding here, and my favorite in the series. Godot's theme, Dahlia's Theme, this game's iteration of the Cornered theme, all excellent.

Of course, if you want to try this game out, you really have to play through the previous two first in order to understand things, but the whole series is pretty excellent. If you have an iOS device, a version of the first three games is available (or maybe just the first one?), but they are all also available for digital purchase on Wii (and I assume Wii-U), much easier than trying to find an elusive physical copy.
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Post by: Parama on August 02, 2014, 09:06:06 AM
Yeah AA3 is pretty much the best game all-around and a really great conclusion to the PW trilogy. And Civ 5 is addictive as heck.
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Post by: Zantera on August 02, 2014, 09:25:40 AM
Civ V is amazing.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: TioJorge on August 02, 2014, 10:08:05 AM
Shadow!  :metal One my absolute favorites. It'd make you feel so small and weak and then so powerful in one foul swoop.

Other than that, this'll be the first few entries I can't relate to. The Civ games have always looked fun but I just can't get into those simulation/strategy type games; almost the same situation for Phoenix. I love the premise of both games, especially Phoenix, but once I play them I just get bored quickly. Great write ups still, I might have to try the Civ games one day when I eventually (hundreds of years from now) go through all my games.
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Post by: Genowyn on August 02, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
5 – Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
PS2 – Atlus - 2007

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Persona3cover.jpg)

Persona 3 was the first Shin Megami Tensei game I ever played. To explain the experience is difficult. Here was a game, a JRPG, unlike any I had ever played before. It's set in modern Japan, the characters have to go to high school, and all the music has lyrics. How strange.

The combat system used in Persona 3 (and 4) is second only to the glorious press turn system. Much like the press turn system, combat in this game is either highly rewarding or highly punishing. Usually punishing. One of the few  problems with this game is that you can't directly control the actions of your party members, leading to some highly frustrating moments, for example: During the final boss, you're really counting on your healer (I usually use Yukari) to be casting Mediarahan every turn. However, the AI makes it so that they will not cast it if their MP gets too low, resulting in them opting to use healing items when they still have enough MP to cast. This is highly frustrating, as you have plenty of MP-restoring items prepared for when they run out, but they don't know that. If you could control them, you could choose actions based on knowledge of how the rest of the party will act! What a novel concept! Happily, this is amended in the PSP version.

However, the RPG system is only one part of the game. The unique aspect of Persona 3 (and 4) is the incorporation of gameplay elements from dating sims. There are a number of characters who you can choose to spend time with while you're not dungeoning, and spending time with them causes their relationship with them improve. It's quite a challenge to balance all of the relationships, raising your 'Social Stats' (courage, charm, and academics), and actually completing the RPG portion of the game. Each character has a Tarot arcana assigned to them. I'll explain the point of all this in a moment.

Personas are the other major aspect of the gameplay. Your abilities and stats in combat are derived from your Persona. You get new Personas two ways: you can get them after battles as a reward, or you can fuse them together in the Velvet Room. Each Persona is also assigned an arcana, and the Persona created is based on the arcanas of the two going into it, as well as their initial level. When fusing a Persona, it gains extra experience based on the level of the Social Link with the character assigned to that arcana, and completing a Social Link unlocks that arcana's ultimate Persona.

Music? Yeah. Shoji Meguro really shines here. I could make a little list of which songs to check out, but honestly it would be shorter to list some ones that aren't that great. But a highlight reel: Mass Destruction, Danger Zone, and of course Battle Hymn of the Soul/Battle for Everyone's Souls. The music is really extraordinary and unique, pretty much the only other games that have music like it are…other Persona games. So yeah.

Play this game. Probably the PSP version.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on August 03, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
No one cared about Persona 3?  :sadpanda:

4 - Earthbound
SNES – Nintendo – 1995

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/EarthBound_Box.jpg)

I played Earthbound before it was cool. I played Super Smash Bros. because Ness was in it, not the other way around. Earthbound is fucking awesome.

This game is definitely a cult classic. It's so odd, so very, very odd, that I have never convinced any friend of mine to play it to the end. But I love odd, and this game is full of it. The enemies are odd, the dialog is odd, the music is odd… just a really odd game.

This game is definitely a love it or hate it kind of thing. If you enjoy weird games (especially weird Japanese games), then I can't recommend it enough. The combat is even quite challenging, and the scripted final boss fight is outstanding.

I don't know what else to say about this game. It's awesome.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Obfuscation on August 03, 2014, 11:10:47 PM
I cared about Persona 3  :sadpanda: but have nothing to say since I mentioned before about not having the chance to play it yet. Earthbound I've also heard quite a bit about and seen videos about but never played it. Good choices anyway.  :tup
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Post by: Full Speed on August 04, 2014, 08:41:38 AM
I loved Persona 3, but Persona 4 was more of my thing.
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Post by: Sacul on August 04, 2014, 09:24:15 AM
More games to add to may to-play list :lol. By the way, isn't Earthbound known also as Mother 3? Or am I talking bullshit?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on August 04, 2014, 09:34:16 AM
Earthbound is Mother 2. Mother 3 is sometimes referred to as Earthbound 2, and it's a GBA game (also really good, and if I were being purely critical with no nostalgia, it is probably better than Earthbound)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on August 04, 2014, 08:58:22 PM
I loved Persona 3, but Persona 4 was more of my thing.

well, then

3 – Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
PS2 – Atlus - 2008

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Shin_Megami_Tensei_Persona_4-1.jpg)

So hey, remember everything I said about Persona 3? That, but better. Honestly, this game just takes everything Persona 3 did and says, "Yeah, I can do that better."

The story is one place where it really stands out compared to the first game. So many twists and false endings, I'm sure many people thought they had finished the game when they beat the second last dungeon, and thought "Well I guess there were a few plotholes". NO. The game lets you stop here (earlier, too, but it's more obvious that it's wrong at that point), but the game has been constantly telling you to seek the truth. The battle theme is called 'Reach Out to the Truth', for fuck's sake. If there's something that appears to be a plothole, don't be satisfied with that after the game railed on about Truth. Go find the truth.

The combat system is improved, because now you can control your party members, and they've added a guard option. That's pretty much it.

The music is outstanding again, themes like I'll Face Myself (battle), Kiri, and The Genesis are absolute gems.

As I said, this game is pretty much just a better Persona 3. If you're going to try out Persona for the first time, start here.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 04, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
Earthbound :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart

And only Persona I've played is Innocent Sin (the first part of 2). I love it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
I've watched Persona 3 be played, but I've played 4 myself and I do think it is indeed superior in many ways, so yes, no complaints here.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Outcrier on August 05, 2014, 04:35:50 AM
I thought Persona 4 would be number 1º  ;)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Parama on August 05, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
I should probably ask to be on the waiting list, I'll probably be able to compile a list by the time it'd be my turn :P
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on August 05, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
I remember this game causing some controversy back when people were making little unofficial lists right before this thread started:

2 - Chrono Trigger
SNES – Squaresoft - 1995

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Chrono_Trigger-1.jpg)

THE
GREATEST
JRPG
OF
ALL
TIME

What an astounding masterpiece. Everything in this game is perfect (well,it could be a little more difficult, but that's it). The art style is great, the combat system is exciting, the story is engaging, the music is extraordinary.

Talking about what makes Chrono Trigger great is difficult, but to this day it remains my favorite JRPG. There have been a lot of extraordinary JRPGs on the list, but this one tops them all, despite its relative simplicity. This is the pinnacle of JRPGs, and if you're a fan of the genre you've pretty much gotta love this game. It's great.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on August 05, 2014, 10:07:33 PM
Fuck yeah Chrono Trigger. One of like four games I've played on this list and like one of ten that I've even heard of.  :lol

It totally deserves all the acclaim it gets, IMO. A masterpiece that transcends both WRPG's and JRPG's and is just a straight up awesome game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on August 05, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
2 - Chrono Trigger
SNES – Squaresoft - 1995

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Chrono_Trigger-1.jpg)

THE
GREATEST
JRPG
OF
ALL
TIME

All of that. Simply one of the greatest games ever made. Everything about it is just gorgeous.
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Post by: Bolsters on August 05, 2014, 10:40:51 PM
Fuck yeah Chrono Trigger.
:metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 05, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
My prediction for #1: Madden '95 SNES
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Post by: Outcrier on August 06, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
Chrono Trigger  :metal
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Post by: Obfuscation on August 06, 2014, 01:13:31 AM
My prediction for #1: Madden '95 SNES

Madden '96 > '95

I should go play Chrono Trigger now and finish it.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 06, 2014, 02:23:39 AM
Madden '97 on PS was really where it was at. That game rattled my genitalia with its awesome graphics and gameplay.
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Post by: Cable on August 06, 2014, 06:22:59 AM
I played CT through, and I didn't understand what made it one of the best. On the other hand, I loved Chrono Cross.

What am I missing that makes CT so great?
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 09:38:55 AM
I've played both games and I feel like Chrono Cross just falls short of living up to its predecessor. The music isn't quite as memorable,  the battle system doesn't feel as good, boss fights feel less rewarding when you when, and the story is sort of a clusterfuck that they probably needed another disk to explain properly.
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Post by: Sacul on August 06, 2014, 09:58:16 AM
What am I missing that makes CT so great?
This. I played the DS version and it really bored me  :lol The combats are slow, the story predictable and shallow - but the music was awesome though :biggrin:. Matter of tastes, I guess.
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Post by: Parama on August 06, 2014, 10:08:03 AM
I just can't play JRPGs at all anymore, they're too tedious and slow
Persona 4 was probably the last one I played through to completion and that was over 3 years ago that I played it
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Some honorable mentions:

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon
Melty Blood
Tsukihime
Portal
FTL
Papers, Please
Metal Gear Solid 3
Ocarina of Time

Update will come around the usual time tonight.
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Post by: Outcrier on August 06, 2014, 04:40:24 PM
I've played both games and I feel like Chrono Cross just falls short of living up to its predecessor. The music isn't quite as memorable,  the battle system doesn't feel as good, boss fights feel less rewarding when you when, and the story is sort of a clusterfuck that they probably needed another disk to explain properly.

Well, i like the battle system and music equally but, talking about story and characters, i go with Chrono Trigger, simple but great presentation.
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Post by: Randaran on August 06, 2014, 05:13:05 PM
I have not played this one, though I have been recommended it several times. I have access to SNES, PS, and DS; which version is the best?
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 05:19:18 PM
Well, the Playstation version will be pretty cheap on PSN (both it and Cross are on sale this week, in fact), but the DS version is the most complete and has improved translation. Up to you if an extra $20~$30 is worth the better translation and some extra bosses.
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Post by: Outcrier on August 06, 2014, 05:21:51 PM
Either SNES or DS (new content, better translation, et cetera).
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
No real reason to get the SNES version...for one it's absurdly expensive. Quick eBay search shows the lowest one being around $55, with most being $100 or more. The Playstation version is the same as SNES one with anime cutscenes and a sort of meta-system to keep track of which endings you've recieved.
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Post by: Randaran on August 06, 2014, 05:26:20 PM
Thanks; I will get the DS version soon.
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Post by: Outcrier on August 06, 2014, 05:26:32 PM
I interpreted "access" in a different way, Genowyn :P
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 08:40:01 PM
1 - E.T. The Extraterrestrial
Atari 2600 - Atari - 1982

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/01a4.gif)

I'm not sure how anyone could disagree with this choice, as this is clearly the greatest game ever made.
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Post by: Outcrier on August 06, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
This is what i'm talking about, nigga :hefdaddy
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Alright I got one, good enough:

1 - Silent Hill 2
PS2 - Konami - 2001

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/Genowyn/Silent_Hill_2.jpg)

Completely out of left field, we conclude with a Horror game. The greatest ever made. Silent Hill 2 is a work of art.

Let's start with the obvious aspect: The horror. This game is scary in a way no other game I've played has replicated. The atmosphere is perfectly crafted, and the time when nothing is happening is often the scariest part of the game. Every Silent Hill game made in Japan was scary in a unique way, and I think Silent Hill 2 did it best. Everything is oppressive. Compare Silent Hill 3, which is just terrifying, so you tend to want to run as fast as possible and cower in a corner somewhere. Silent Hill 2 makes you want to move slowly because a nightmare could be around any corner. The game makes me physically uncomfortable to play, and I mean that as a compliment.

The story is outstanding. It is deep, psychological, and profoundly disturbing, and probably features the best twist ending in the history of video games.

One complaint one might make about the game is the poor voice acting. I actually feel like this is a positive factor in the game. To be clear, I don't think that any of what I'm about to describe was intentional, and I'm not talking about the HD Remaster, because I haven't really played it: Sometimes with bad voice acting, you get this feeling like the characters are standing in different rooms just saying stuff at each other. The emotions in their voices are all wrong, they don't seem to really react to what the other person says…overall it's very unnatural. In this game, it works perfectly. The characters are all tormented, all seeing different versions of the town based on their issues. So it makes sense that James and Angela don't sound natural when they talk to each other. It also makes everyone really creepy. REALLY creepy. It works.

The music is another major factor here. Series composer Akira Yamaoka really shines here, with both excellent themes like Theme of Laura or Promise, and disturbing atmospheric music and industrial noise.

I love Silent Hill, and this is definitely the best game in the series. Everyone should play it. Unless you're chicken.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on August 06, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
Alright, for real, post your real #1.




















:neverusethis:
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Post by: Sacul on August 06, 2014, 09:50:28 PM
Amazing choice. I've only played the first SH, which was decent but I didn't understand the story :lol. I've also heard nothing but praise to this one, so I might play it soon.
Well, actually... I downloaded it (yeah,  :yarr) on my PC, played a bit of the beginning - but the controls were horrible  ???. Is the PS2 version decent control-wise? I remember hating the camera, that's why. I also remember reading somewhere that the HD version/remake was awful, so I don't know where and how to play it D:
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Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 10:02:28 PM
PC director's cut is where I put the most time into it. The issue with the PS3 port was patched (I think? It may have been that either SH2 was patched and 3 was unfixable or vice versa). As far as the controls and the camera these are pluses in my opinion. It has the option to switch between what it calls 2D and 3D control: one is tank controls(left and right turn, forward moves in the direction you're facing, back steps backward), the other is a camera-relative one like you're probably used to. However I'd still recommend sticking to tank controls...the game works better if it's clunky :lol

Remember part of the point of Silent Hill is that you're Joe Schmo, not some badass (fucking Homecoming), and combat is something to be avoided. The clunky controls help to make that a reality. The fixed camera is pretty much a horror game staple. Some of my favorite SH moments would be impossible without it (THE FUCKING FACE ROOM). So yeah.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 06, 2014, 11:03:07 PM
boss fights feel less rewarding when you when,
Yup, Golem Overlord is certainly the greatest boss fight of its time. :neverusethis:

Jokes aside, it's an amazing game, and I really need to beat it again soon.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Genowyn on August 06, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
A true man defeats Golem Boss and revels in his victory. And I mean defeats.
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Post by: Outcrier on August 07, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
Never played SH2 but the OST is a classic album not only in videogame music but in general music as well. Love it  :heart
Great list Genowyn, lots of modern classics like Ace Attorney 3 and SMT games (series which i'm looking up to play soon)  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Obfuscation on August 07, 2014, 01:08:19 AM
Fuck man, you screwed up your #1 choice, you had it. E.T. > SH2, everybody knows that.


But seriously, I remember back then when this game came out and watching my cousin playing it. Shit, I think I was more scared than him and I was just watching. But fuuny how things change. Now I'm the one who'll play the horror games like Outlast with him watching instead.
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Post by: Genowyn on August 07, 2014, 01:28:04 AM
I remember when Silent Hill 1 came out my Dad rented it from Blockbuster (man, remember Blockbuster?) and watched some parts of it (obviously he didn't show me much) but I remember being terrified by totally innocuous things, like one area has empty diving suits hanging on the wall that I thought were bodies :lol

Top 5 Scariest SH Moments:
5) That goddamn cat (1)
4) Happy Birthday Call (3)
3) Face Room (4)
2) This is a personal one from 2, my first time playing the game I ran around in a panic most of the time and after completing collecting the pieces needed to complete a certain puzzle, when you return to the room the puzzle is in Pyramid Head can be seen waiting behind a steel grate you're trying to get past. An unsettling moment on its own, but in my hurry to progress and get out of the scary apartment building I barely caught a glimpse of him before entering the door. I went back outside to confirm what I had seen and he had disappeared. Unintentional but extra freaky
1) Silent Hill 4 has a lot of really great, subtle, missable scares, the best of which may be the best in the series: After the fifth victim is attacked, when you look through the peephole into your neighbour's apartment, the stuffed animal which had been sitting in her room now has its head turned directly towards you.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on August 07, 2014, 06:39:22 AM
1 - E.T. The Extraterrestrial
Atari 2600 - Atari - 1982

I'm not sure how anyone could disagree with this choice, as this is clearly the greatest game ever made.

Great choice  :tup :rollin Indisputably the best game ever created. Look at how many copies were made!

1 - Silent Hill 2

I have never played Silent Hill. I do enjoy horror, so I will check it out soon.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 07, 2014, 08:33:31 AM
soooo, it seems I am up.

First, my dirty little secret.  I'm not much of a gamer.  In fact, these days, with two young children, work, gym, and finding time to spend with my wife, I hardly ever play video games anymore.  And even when I did play video games, I usually did not play very many or a wide variety.  Once I latched onto a game or two that I liked, I played the crap out of it.  So I'm basically taking this opportunity to stroll down memory lane a bit and reminisce about several games that I've spent the most time with.

I grew up mostly in the 80's and aside from those glorious trips to the local arcade at the mall, I've had an Atari 2600, TI-99/4A, NES, PC, Gameboy, Playstation 1, XBOX, and XBOX 360.  My list will include at least one entry for each platform (including Arcade).  I expect that this list will raise quite a few eyebrows and garner its share of WTF's.


I'll list a few honorable mentions later today, and hopefully get #25 up sometime after that.
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Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2014, 08:48:30 AM
Silent Hill is great, and the only game on this that I know. :lol

Hath, since you have good taste in music, I hope that that trend continues in your choice of games.

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Post by: Big Hath on August 07, 2014, 09:03:27 AM
Hath, since you have good taste in music, I hope that that trend continues in your choice of games.

heh, just you wait
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Post by: Obfuscation on August 07, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Waiting.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 07, 2014, 12:42:54 PM
a few honorable mentions

Road Blasters - 1987 - Arcade: basically Pole Position with weapons

(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242156263.jpg)
(http://www.fraserking.co.uk/arcade/screenshots/road-blasters-1.png)


Elevator Action - 1983 - Arcade: James Bond in a highrise

(http://s1.dmcdn.net/A_oyC/x240-GTt.jpg)


A-MAZE-ING - 1980 - TI-99/4A: Cat and mouse game in a maze

(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/532830-a-maze-ing-ti-99-4a-screenshot-title-screens.png)


Moon Mine - 1983 - TI-99/4A: "You'll never get me . . . HA HA HA HA!"

(http://www.videogamehouse.net/Moonmine2.png)


Parsec - 1982 - TI-99/4A: damned refueling tunnels

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Parsec-refuelling.png)
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Post by: Obfuscation on August 07, 2014, 01:40:04 PM
Yup, never played them.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Cable on August 07, 2014, 10:36:19 PM
My family had Parsec, including the voice thing. I didn't play it much, as it was my birth year on release. I remember more of Hunt The Wumpis and munchman.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 07, 2014, 10:39:24 PM
we didn't have Wumpus, but I've played my share of Munchman.  It's in the long list of Pac-man knock-offs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 07, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
Now his is a list I can follow! Though shockingly, I don't recall any f those HMs. Elevator Action is ringing a bell, but it's a very tiny one.

Bring on the nostalgia!
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Post by: Big Hath on August 08, 2014, 08:40:55 AM
My family had Parsec, including the voice thing.

Parsec was such a frustrating game at times.  It was sort of like a side-scrolling version of Galaga where ships would attack you in certain patterns, etc.  But your ship could overheat if you shot too much with your laser cannon.  Plus the laser was so thin you had to have a direct hit to destroy the enemies.  Then you had to refuel by maneuvering your ship through those narrow cave-like tunnels in the pic above.  One touch of a part of the tunnel and you were toast.
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Post by: Bolsters on August 08, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
I get the impression a lot of this stuff is going to be too old for me to know, but I look forward to your 2600/NES/Gameboy picks as those are systems I am more familiar with.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 08, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
a few more HMs

Donkey Kong - 1983 - TI-99/4A: ported to a billion different systems, but I mostly played it on the TI

(http://www.videogamehouse.net/DonkeyKong3.png)


Miner 2049er - 1984 - TI-99/4A: sort of like Donkey Kong, but better.  This game had 10 different screens/maps vs 4 for DK.

(http://www.99er.net/graphics/Miner2049er.JPG)


1943: The Battle of Midway - 1988 - NES: Awesome weapons power-ups and special attacks

(http://gaminghistory101.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1943_3.jpg?w=300&h=281)


Legendary Wings - 1988 - NES: Another flying game with weapon power ups.  2-player co-op.

(http://www.co-optimus.com/images/upload/image/classic/Legendary%20Wings1.png)
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on August 08, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Hell yes, Miner 2049'er was awesome as hell.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 08, 2014, 11:07:25 AM
I loved Minor 2049er and Larry Bird vs. Dr. J on my Atari 1200 computer.  Yeah that's right. :lol
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Post by: The King in Crimson on August 08, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
Man I remember playing the crap out of 1943 back in the day.
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Post by: Full Speed on August 08, 2014, 11:09:24 AM
Most of these picks being from before my birth are making me feel young.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 08, 2014, 11:23:54 AM
I loved Minor 2049er and Larry Bird vs. Dr. J on my Atari 1200 computer.  Yeah that's right. :lol

ha, that's awesome!
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Post by: Big Hath on August 08, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
alright, here we go

(http://www.mrousseau.org/images/ti.png)



#25 - ZeroZap

Released 1979 for TI-99/4A

(http://www.videogamehouse.net/ZeroZap2.png)

This list is not in chronological order, but we are starting off with the very first video game I can ever remember playing.  My Dad bought our family a TI-99/4A for Christmas in 1982 when I was 5 years old.  He also bought 4 or 5 game cartridges.  One of them was Zero Zap and it was the first game my brother and I plugged into the machine and I can remember my parents had to basically drag us away from the computer for Christmas dinner.  We were hooked.

This game is likely to be the simplest game in this entire thread.  It is basically a ricochet/pinball type game where the player fires an arrow into various X's or randomly numbered diamonds.  When hit, the X's turn into the numbered diamonds and vice versa.  The arrow then bounces off to hit a wall or another X or diamond and keeps this up until it returns to the ground or it hits a diamond with a zero on it, at which point the diamond explodes and the arrow falls back to the ground.  The objective is to accumulate as many points as possible by hitting the numbered diamonds, hopefully in long consecutive strings of ricochets.  My brother and I would spend hours playing against each other, and although he was 11 years older than me, the simplicity of the game evened the playing field a great deal.  There was nothing better than getting a long string of ricochets on your last arrow of the match to take the lead and win.  He would get pretty upset when his 5 year old brother beat him.

But probably the coolest thing about this game was the ability to create your own board and try for longer and longer shots from a single arrow fire.  You could stack X's/diamonds all over the board and get an arrow to go on for what seemed like forever, until a zero diamond popped up of course.  There was nothing worse than firing an arrow and one of the first X's it hits turns into a zero diamond, because you knew you would be hitting it soon and your turn would be over.
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Post by: Bolsters on August 08, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
Well, I know Donkey Kong. :P I think I played the arcade version when I was very young, and when a bit older I had Donkey Kong on Gameboy, which started out with the original arcade game before DK runs off and Mario has to chase him through a shitload of levels in all these different locations. Probably one of my favourite puzzle platformers.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Big Hath on August 08, 2014, 09:58:41 PM
we also had Donkey Kong for the Atari 2600.  What a terrible port!


Seriously, this is what they were passing off as Donkey Kong:

(http://cdn.medialib.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/screens/screenshot_38404_thumb_wide610.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2014, 04:52:33 AM
Anyone watched the documentary The King of Kong: A Fistfull of Quarters?  You'll gain a whole new appreciation for Donkey Kong.

Miner 2049'r... I vaguely remember it, but played a lot more of it's equivalent, Hard Hat Mack

Midway... yeah, played a shit load of that too.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Bolsters on August 09, 2014, 05:28:10 AM
Anyone watched the documentary The King of Kong: A Fistfull of Quarters?  You'll gain a whole new appreciation for Donkey Kong.
Shit, I've been meaning to watch that for years, but never got around to it and forgot. Now that you've reminded me, I think I'll finally go about taking a look.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 09, 2014, 08:20:33 AM
I've seen it and enjoyed it a lot.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: ReaperKK on August 09, 2014, 09:45:35 AM
Holy fuck battle at Midway, I haven't played that game in years but it was awesome!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Big Hath on August 09, 2014, 10:18:45 AM
Anyone watched the documentary The King of Kong: A Fistfull of Quarters?  You'll gain a whole new appreciation for Donkey Kong.

awesome film.  It introduces a villain as dastard as any from one of the hundreds of big budget 80's action flicks.


Plus it has a Rush/Neal Peart connection with that scene where the protagonist talks about being good with his hands/recognizing patterns and being able to recreate them at high speeds.  He actually plays a bit of "The Rhythm Method" on drums if I recall correctly.
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Post by: kingshmegland on August 09, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
I never saw it.  I will search for that film!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Obfuscation on August 09, 2014, 09:25:14 PM
Seen it and enjoyed it. Heard or saw a couple of weeks ago though that there was a new King of Kong so they should make a sequel or something now haha.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Big Hath on August 09, 2014, 10:05:53 PM
#24 - Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection and Pinball FX 2

Released 2009 and 2010 for Xbox 360

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91KrWmmk7vL._SL1500_.jpg) (http://images.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/255533_PROD/pinball-fx-2.jpg)


I am an absolute sucker for video pinball games.  This entry is a tie between these two titles, but it should also include Space Cadet (the windows pinball game from the 90's), Pinball Hall of Fame: Gottlieb Edition, Pin Ball (for the NES), and a host of other pinball games from various platforms.

The Williams collection is a recreation of various real life tables that were produced by Williams Electronics from 1970 to 1997.  The physics and sound effects in this game are absolutely true to life.  It's amazing the level of detail they put into this game, which covers 13 classic pinball tables.  In addition to trying to increase your high score, each table has 5 goals to accomplish ranging from easy tasks to ridiculously hard combos/side games.  Favorite tables in this collection include FunHouse, Whirlwind, Tales of the Arabian Nights, and Medieval Madness.

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/12096/359512-i_pinballhalloffamewilliams07.jpg) (http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nb8k9Mzy--/18heyy9pci4zwjpg.jpg)
(http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_medium/mig/6/8/0/3/2286803-pinballhalloffamearabian_80387_screen.jpg) (http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/P/Pinball%20Hall%20of%20Fame%20Williams%20Collection/Bulk%20Viewers/360_PS3/2009-10-08/pinball3--article_image.jpg)


Pinball FX2 is on the Xbox Live platform.  The base game is a free download, but you must purchase each table separately or in add-on packs.  The tables designed for this game were never physically made (nor could they be in most cases) and they focus more on special effects.  The physics can be a bit wonky at times, but for the most part everything acts as would be expected.  They have released close to 50 tables at this point, and each one that I have played has been well worth it.  They have licenses with Marvel and Star Wars, so many of the games have those themes, but there are several that don't.  My favorite tables are Excalibur, Captain America, Spider-Man, and Star Wars: Starfighter Assault

(http://blog.zenstudios.com/wp-content/themes/twentyten/images/screenshots/large/zenpinball_ios/excalibur/screenshot_3.jpg) (http://www.xblafans.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/06/Captain_America_table_screenshot012-600x337.jpg)
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/P/Pinball%20FX%202/Bulk%20Viewer/PS3_360/2010-12-07%20Marvel%20Pinball/MP_SpiderMan--article_image.jpg) (http://www.xblafans.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/10/SWP_Starfighter_Assault_table_3-620x348.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Randaran on August 09, 2014, 10:16:39 PM
The only experience I have with this sort of game is cheating in Windows Pinball.  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 09, 2014, 10:26:04 PM
Holy crap they look realistic!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: Big Hath on August 09, 2014, 10:37:23 PM
Holy crap they look realistic!

the realism on the Williams collection is crazy.  You might as well be standing at the table.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 10, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
I've never been much into pinball games. They've always just felt like poor-man's videogames to me. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 10, 2014, 05:15:44 AM
I played a handful of pinball games - the real kind - back in the 80s.  Terminator and Addams Family come to mind as games that extracted a lot of quarters from me... mostly the latter.  There were a few others.  Like all games, you had to play them repeatedly to get good at them.  Never really migrated to play digital pinball games much.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 11, 2014, 12:04:36 PM
#23 - Ivan 'Ironman' Stewart's Super Off Road

Released 1989 as an arcade cabinet

(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/223556/4e65671dab16e_223556n.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Super-off-road-2.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0FbFJ2Xv6dw/TNrtwN1HsBI/AAAAAAAABec/MAmqtNB3GRQ/s1600/52380-ivan-iron-man-stewart-s-super-off-road-dos-screenshot-main.gif) (http://image.allmusic.com/00/agg/screen300/drs400/s422/s42285lfxon.jpg)


I played this a fair amount in the NES, but there was nothing like walking up to that 3-steering-wheeled cabinet at Aladdin's Castle with a couple of friends and racing away.

There were eight different tracks and the 1st place finisher earned points to continue in the championship series and money with which to upgrade their truck or buy more nitro.  This was one of the first racing games where the player could upgrade their vehicle by earning money.  There were five upgrade levels for Tires, Shocks, Acceleration, and Top Speed with each one have a vastly different effect on how your truck performed during the race.  With an leftover cash you could try to hoard as many nitros as possible which give you a momentary boost durign the race.  The nitros gave each race a reasonable level of strategy as you didn't want to burn them all too quickly and have someone with reserves blow past you on the last lap.

Each track was littered with ramps, jumps, water hazards, and other obstacles.  At least one track also had a criss-crossed section where trucks would jump over a pool of water at the intersection, leading to some crashes.  This is also one of those games where the further you got in the game, the more insanely good the computer racers became.  You could have maxed out all your upgrades and nitros and still struggle to hold off the computer controlled trucks as they dash around the track like mad men.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Cool Chris on August 11, 2014, 12:09:20 PM
I had never heard of this game until a couple weeks ago when James Rolfe posted a video with him and Mike and Pat playing it.

I do remember 'Elevator Action' and loved 1942 and 1943. Cool to see those make the 'best of the rest' list.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 11, 2014, 08:23:23 PM
I played Super Off Road all the time.  Many quarters were lost.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2014, 09:29:14 PM
Oh hell yeah!  Played a lot of this, but I spent many more rolls of quarters on it's predecessor, Super Sprint.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 11, 2014, 09:34:11 PM
yep, definitely has many of the same qualities as Super Sprint.  The overhead, full-track view.  Three-steering-wheeled cabinet.  Tight turns. etc . . .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 11, 2014, 09:50:02 PM
I played this game a bit in the day aswell, but it didn't cost me that much - I've only played the NES version.

Though, as far as NES racers go, nothing beats Micro Machines.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 12, 2014, 09:55:41 AM
#22 - Portal

Released 2007 for Xbox 360

(http://86bb71d19d3bcb79effc-d9e6924a0395cb1b5b9f03b7640d26eb.r91.cf1.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/portal-1-walkthrough-artwork.jpg)

(http://www.xboxachievements.com/images/news/portal.jpg)


This one has been talked about earlier in the thread, so I will keep this brief.  I believe I first heard of this game in an Xbox magazine as they were hyping it as part of The Orange Box.  It was an extremely novel idea for a game, creating new ways to move within a game, but also new ways to interact with and manipulate objects.  Cool puzzles to solve.  Very cool sense of humor as well.  I never did play Portal 2 as life got a bit more complex for me just prior to its release.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: ReaperKK on August 12, 2014, 10:00:22 AM
Off Road!!!!

I haven't thought about that game in a long time but I spent a lot of summers playing that game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Evermind on August 12, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
I will express my love for Portal every time it comes up in those lists, so  :heart :heart :heart

One of the best games out there, for sure.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on August 12, 2014, 03:05:22 PM
I will express my love for Portal every time it comes up in those lists, so  :heart :heart :heart

One of the best games out there, for sure.
Absolutely this. Portal 2 is even better :heart
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
Man, I really need to try the Portal franchise.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 12, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
When Sexbox 360 came out that was the first series of systems I stopped buying.  Wasn't playing like the old days.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Obfuscation on August 12, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Man, I really need to try the Portal franchise.

Like right now pls.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 12, 2014, 07:16:38 PM
Man, I really need to try the Portal franchise.

it really is a cool spin on your normal puzzle solving games.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: ariich on August 12, 2014, 07:18:48 PM
Both Portal games are so brilliant.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on August 12, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
Man, I really need to try the Portal franchise.

Same here. I've tried it out and liked it, but never got too deep into the games.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Outcrier on August 13, 2014, 02:29:49 AM
Recently finished both Portal games, good stuff.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 13, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
#21 - Splinter Cell

Released 2002 for Xbox


(http://confidentgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/splinter-cell-game-box-art-cover.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii188/gamecubepad/xb.jpg) (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFFual6lhiY/UBwbJ-EZkgI/AAAAAAAACGY/tgAjgblHJRs/s1600/SplinterCell1+(2).jpg)


This was the first true stealth game I ever played.  In previous action games, my preferred method of navigating through levels was to take the path of least resistance rather than charge in with guns blazing.  I kept to walls, conserved ammo, and took enemies out one at a time when possible.  So to me, this game fit just like a glove.

As the game's protagonist (a veteran covert/black ops operator), you are encouraged to move through the shadows and use darkness for concealment whenever possible.  There was a light meter to tell you if you could be seen or not.  You were also aided by night- and thermal-vision goggles, which made that cool high-pitched sound when activated.  It was always great fun to sneak up on an enemy, put them in a sleeper hold, interrogate them, incapacitate them, then drag their bodies to a dark room/closet/etc so they wouldn't be found.  You also had a vast array of stealth/silent weapons and gadgets to keep you hidden or to find out what enemies were doing in other rooms and around corners.

The game narrative is on rails, so there's not really a chance or much point in exploring anything.  But the missions are quite lengthy so you really feel like you've accomplished something when you make it through.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2014, 04:58:25 AM
This too was my first stealth game, and I sucked at it.  I bought the Splinter Cell trilogy for $18 at Costco, and only got about an hour into the first game.  I should revisit it - my PS3 crashed a few weeks back, and I lost all my game data, so it's probably a good thing since I'd have to refamiliarize myself with the controls, tactics and strategies.

When I'm done Arkham Origins, I'll give this one another go.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 15, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
#20 - Combat

Released 1977 for Atari 2600


(http://www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/atari2600/2600-Combat(rescan_needed).jpg)

(http://www.vectronicsappleworld.com/collection/articlepics/atari2600/combat1.png) (http://i.somethingawful.com/u/ctstalker/2010/2010_05_29_combat.png)
(http://www.8-bitcentral.com/images/reviews/atari2600/combat2600Screen3.jpg) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/2x6h9xWQaTC-jGXZVKl15Yiacmt0xn_7GyNMUIz15NoDC6n8e31VWyO5j8wRvhLKv3PoiJ-DyRjMk-s57wix7EygeSSROYsTZcj_rPhoMXS3J0Yk6qo)


This is obviously a simple two player game, but surprisingly it comes with a great deal of variety.  My brother and I spent a lot of time playing this game.  It's a multi-directional shooter and exclusively two-player, so you had to have a friend or sibling with you to play it.

There were three vehicle types:
Tank - One on one action where you accumulated points for how many times you shot your opponent until the timer reached zero.  Depending on what mode you selected pre-game, there were straight shots, guided missiles that you could roughly guide with the joystick after firing, and ricochet shots that you could bounce off walls to hit your opponent.  There was also a mode for invisible tanks that only appeared for a few seconds after firing a shot.  The combat map could be selected from an empty field, a simple maze, or a more complex maze.

Biplane - You could choose to play one on one, two on two (the planes moved in tandem), or three on one in which one person controlled three planes in tandem while another person controlled a large bomber plane.  No maps in this mode, but there were two clouds on the screen and you could fly into the clouds so your opponent couldn't see you for a few seconds.

Jet - More maneuverable and faster than the biplanes, but this mode only had one on one, two on two, or three on three.


It was remarkable how this game got our competitive juices flowing.  Hitting that perfect bounce shot to score a point on the tanks was an incredible feeling.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 15, 2014, 09:38:06 PM
I didn't recall the plane ones, but I played the tank ones. Good simple fun. :hat
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on August 15, 2014, 09:46:33 PM
Oh man, all this variety of lists and games will take me a lot of time to even get a top 5 for the database :lol. I respect you a bit more now, Big Hath ;D.

And these games make me realize how young I am.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 15, 2014, 10:12:46 PM
I vaguely remember playing this.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 15, 2014, 11:22:11 PM
I remember getting this game as a hand me down along with a shitload of other 2600 games in '89. My older brother usually murked me but it was still good fun. I just wish I'd have gotten acquainted with it before seeing 7800 games and Super Mario Bros. since the simple graphics made me less inclined to play it and I think it had the potential to be a really awesome part of my childhood.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 16, 2014, 05:04:07 AM
I'm with Blob.  I didn't have an Atari, but one of the heighbourhood kids did, and we spent a lot of time at his house.  He also had a pool table with a removable ping pong top.  Many an afternoon and weekend were spent in Jim Kantz's basement.  Then another kid a couple doors down got an Intellivision and pinball table.  Lucky for Jim that kid's parents were uber strict and hardly let anyone come over.  So we kept playing Atari and ping pong.

Anyway, Tank was excellent.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Scorpion on August 16, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
Splinter Cell is great. I don't know if it was my first stealth game, but it was one of the first, and I loved it from the first second.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 16, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
I played the shit out of Combat in my youth.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 17, 2014, 12:00:09 AM
Tanks for the memories.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 17, 2014, 10:28:48 PM
#19 - Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones

Released 1991 for NES


(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/0/8/1/49081_front.jpg)

(http://doubledragon.kontek.net/games/dd3/images/dd3nes5.gif) (http://doubledragon.kontek.net/games/dd3/images/dd3nes8.gif)


The classic co-op fighter series!  This game differs from the previous DD games in the series by allowing the player to play as a couple of the enemy bosses he has defeated along the way.  Chin, a Kung Fu master from China, is slow but has extremely powerful attacks (one is, hilariously, a flying head-butt).  Ranzou, a ninja from Japan, has fairly weak attacks, but his speed and aerial moves are unmatched.

Two-player mode is a bit better than before as Billy and Jimmy now have cooperative moves that double the strength of their attacks.  The main characters have their primary spin kicks, but if they are standing close to each other they do a double-cyclone kick that cuts through the weaker enemies with ease.  And jumping into your partner results in him catching and throwing you as you do a flying kick into the enemy.

It is a fairly difficult two player game, especially as you only have one life per character, but one that was also beatable with a skilled partner and a bit of luck.  I can remember spending hours on weekends with my best friend trying to and finally beating this game.  The final boss fight felt like a 15 round heavyweight fight!

Final thought: If you find yourself left with just Chin in the Egypt level, just go ahead and kill yourself/press reset.  There is no way that fat fuck can make those insanely difficult jumps required to get through the level.  I've tried.  Many, many times.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 18, 2014, 10:21:38 PM
lots of Double D fans I see!

I'm not going to be able to update this thread very much this week since both work and family stuff is going to be a bit insane for the next few days.  Hope to have the next entry in a couple of days or so.  Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2014, 10:28:22 PM
I don't remember DD III, but certainly played a lot of the original and sequel.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 18, 2014, 10:32:30 PM
I used to play the shit out of one of the DD games at a friend's house back in the day, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't this one. Might have been DD 2.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Scorpion on August 19, 2014, 02:27:03 AM
lots of Double D fans I see!

Who isn't? :zydar:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 19, 2014, 02:35:58 AM
It is a titilating game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: adace on August 21, 2014, 04:14:12 AM
I got Splinter Cell when it first came out and it blew me away. Been a huge fan of the series ever since.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on August 22, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
My cousin was crazy about the new DD, and wanted me to play with him, but these kind of games aren't my thing :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 22, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
#18 - Driver

Released 1999 for Playstation


(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/2871/driv.jpg)


(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vgDgfWmFpl4/hqdefault.jpg) (http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/490458-driver-playstation-screenshot-getaway-minigame-also-pretty.jpg)


Fun driving game that was kind of a precursor to GTA III in that it featured 3D driving action from a vantage point just behind the vehicle.  Plus there was "free time" in which the player can go exploring around the city in their car.  Throughout the missions you are encouraged to crash into things, scare people, and create general mayhem.  And you had the option to replay particularly action packed chases and crashes from multiple camera angles.

The game is very similar to several of the car chase films from the 1970s in style and content.  You play the role of an NYPD detective going undercover in the mafia.  You have to impress your "employers" with your driving skills and navigate the organization through Miami, San Francisco, LA, and New York (or, at least rough estimations of those cities).

The driving controls and physics were very good for the time it was released.  Overall a very fun game driving game that has several options and cool getaway tasks, but some serious challenges, especially later in the game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 22, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
That game looks pretty fun and the graphics are pretty damn good for that era.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 24, 2014, 09:59:35 PM
definite fun can be had with this one.  The original game spawned 5 or 6 sequels I believe.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 24, 2014, 10:44:50 PM
#17 - Grand Theft Auto III

Released 2001 for Playstation 2 (2003 for Xbox)


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/GTA3boxcover.jpg)


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q4hIrKMWzjk/UZTyP7OtHYI/AAAAAAAAARU/wHxa-DqT2Os/s1600/gtaiii_4.jpg) (http://3rd-strike.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gta3.jpg)


The breakthrough for the GTA franchise (and the 5th game in the series despite the "III" designation).  Grand Theft Auto III brought a third-person view to the series, rather than the traditional top-down view of earlier titles.  And the graphics were updated with a new 3D game engine.  It was basically a mash-up of a third-person shooter and a driving game.  Two big keys of the success of this game that I latched onto were its non-linear gameplay and the huge open world environment.  You could basically do anything you wanted to at anytime.  Most of the fun for me in this game was spent well off the narrative of the game's built-in storyline.  These concepts were fairly new to gaming at the time and basically revolutionized the way almost all video games were made.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 25, 2014, 12:05:05 AM
 :hefdaddy This fucking game. This game right here, nigga.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 25, 2014, 12:07:06 AM
I played Vice City first, so I didn't get as much into GTAIII after that, but I still had a lot of fun with it. A pivotal game in the franchise. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 25, 2014, 12:30:00 AM
I never really liked GTA III or Vice City all that much. I'd play them when I was at someone's house who had the games, and just fuck around driving and killing and blowing stuff up, but I was never interested beyond that. San Andreas was the first that I was interested in playing properly, but even then it wasn't until more than half a decade after its release. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Onno on August 25, 2014, 01:46:19 AM
GTA III is awesome! I'm kind of working my way back through the GTA series; although I played some GTA II, the first games I owned and finished were Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories for the PSP. After that, I started playing GTA IV and San Andreas. I've now also finished San Andreas, and I'm almost done with The Ballad of Gay Tony. I recently bought an old PS2, and I've already started on GTA III. A small feature in that game which really stands out for me is the fact that you have a opera-only radio channel  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Zantera on August 25, 2014, 02:42:02 AM
I think the GTA games have gotten better, and while V and San Andreas are my favorites, I remember when III came out and how revolutionary it felt.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 25, 2014, 03:27:40 AM
Never played even one minute of the GTA franchise.  Never appealed to me.

:dunno:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Lynxo on August 25, 2014, 05:45:45 AM
GTA III is awesome! I'm kind of working my way back through the GTA series; although I played some GTA II, the first games I owned and finished were Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories for the PSP. After that, I started playing GTA IV and San Andreas. I've now also finished San Andreas, and I'm almost done with The Ballad of Gay Tony. I recently bought an old PS2, and I've already started on GTA III. A small feature in that game which really stands out for me is the fact that you have a opera-only radio channel  :lol
Oh God, I remember the opera-station. It was SO epic doing drive-bys with opera music blasting out of the car speakers. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Genowyn on August 25, 2014, 10:55:54 AM
Classical or Opera are the only types of music appropriate to play in sandbox crime games.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on August 25, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
Never played even one minute of the GTA franchise.  Never appealed to me.

:dunno:

Must be your polite Canadian sensitivities.  I used to love the GTA series, but I have felt no interest in getting the new one.  I never finished IV and for some reason gratuitous violence doesn't do much for me anymore.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 25, 2014, 11:06:58 AM
Never played even one minute of the GTA franchise.  Never appealed to me.

:dunno:

Must be your polite Canadian sensitivities.  I used to love the GTA series, but I have felt no interest in getting the new one.  I never finished IV and for some reason gratuitous violence doesn't do much for me anymore.

I played Vice City to death, but SA onwards were too much for me, not specifically in violence, but just in general, like trying too hard with the language and story content.
Not that I have a problem with those things in other media, they're just not what I look for in gaming.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on August 25, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
I hated San Andreas, and IV was far too boring. I had a blast playing V, and GTA Online is one of the greatest things to ever happen to video games.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on August 25, 2014, 12:44:09 PM
I hated San Andreas, and IV was far too boring. I had a blast playing V, and GTA Online is one of the greatest things to ever happen to video games.

This, except I hardly played the online. I remember it being really buggy around its release. I may give it another try.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 25, 2014, 12:53:38 PM
#18 - Driver
This game. This fucking game. I still have nightmares about the first level of this. It's just unfairly hard.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on August 25, 2014, 12:57:03 PM
I hated San Andreas, and IV was far too boring. I had a blast playing V, and GTA Online is one of the greatest things to ever happen to video games.

This, except I hardly played the online. I remember it being really buggy around its release. I may give it another try.

I played when it first went online. I got to level 4 and stopped because it was virtually unplayable. I started playing a few months later once the bugs we fixed, and I'm up to level 72 now. It really is something else. I love it. I'm hoping that when they release V on the next gen consoles and PC, they up how many people can be in a map. As it is right now, everyone sticks to the city 95% of the time. I'd like it if people could cover the whole map and still have stuff to do.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 25, 2014, 02:37:58 PM
#18 - Driver
This game. This fucking game. I still have nightmares about the first level of this. It's just unfairly hard.

Ha!  Yeah, it's challenging.  The time limits are just enough in some cases, even with perfect runs, then you have those cops trying to kill your car.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: ReaperKK on August 25, 2014, 02:43:52 PM
Driver and GTA3 are all fantastic games.  Vice city will always be my favorite GTA though.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 25, 2014, 09:43:25 PM
#16 - Madden NFL 2005

Released 2004 for Xbox


(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/8/87790/2250689-box_madden05.png)


(http://www.wescoregames.com/dynimgs/games/ps2-madden-nfl-2005/madden_nfl_2005_203352.jpg) (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/madden-nfl-2005/b/bd/Madden-nfl-2005-20040622040443869-000.jpg)


I probably don't have to say much about this one.  It's football.  By this point in the franchise, Madden was a polished game, a known quantity that was making slight improvements year after year.  And this is the same case.  After years of improvements to the offenses in the Madden series, it was about time they evened the field by giving the defense more smarts and introducing the hit stick.  Franchise mode got a bit better.  Online play improved.  The game became less an arcade shootout and more of a subtle chess match, similar to most real life NFL games.
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Post by: Onno on August 25, 2014, 11:22:28 PM
That's a game I might want to get for my PS2.
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Post by: Obfuscation on August 25, 2014, 11:33:50 PM
#18 - Driver
This game. This fucking game. I still have nightmares about the first level of this. It's just unfairly hard.

Same shit with Driver 2 for me. I can remember just playing thing over and over again vividly cause that's how many time I played certain levels and ingrained in my head certain routes became from memorizing the best routes to take.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 25, 2014, 11:41:47 PM
I played a boatload of Madden in the '93 thru '95 era on Sega Genesis. That's all I have to say about that.

Epic sports franchise.
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Post by: Chino on August 26, 2014, 03:00:48 AM
I played a boatload of Madden in the '93 thru '95 era on Sega Genesis. That's all I have to say about that.

Epic sports franchise.

I have Madden 97 on Sega Saturn. There are about 12 plays and every jersey has 88 on the back.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 26, 2014, 10:09:17 PM
#15 - Half Life 2

Released 2004 for Xbox (2007 for Xbox 360)


(http://p3.no/filmpolitiet/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/196f381bc9cca7c51dd2458e19bbcf90-Half_Life_2_.jpg)

(http://101videogames.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/half-life_2_xbox_screenshot_mutant.jpg) (http://mpcstatic.com/i/reviews/half-life-2_en_screenshot_2.jpg)


I actually didn't buy The Orange Box until sometime in 2010, but I am glad I did as this is the second entry in my list from that purchase.  This particular game immediately felt different than any other game I had ever played in tone and atmosphere.  Set in a dystopian world, the atmosphere is immediately oppressive.  You don't have anything or really know where to go or what to do.  You gradually get better weapons.  There are vehicles to maneuver through certain stages (boat and dune buggy).  And eventually you come to a point where you have a group of resistance fighters that you have to use as a team to make it through a level.  Lots of really cool things going on in this game.  Oh, yeah - there is also the creepiness that is Ravenholm.  Those headcrabs - yeesh!

Overall a very long and satisfying game to finish.


Also. . .

Gravity. Gun.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 26, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Gravity. Gun.
This is all that needed to be said, really. :metal
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Post by: Outcrier on August 26, 2014, 10:29:54 PM
One of the best sequels ever  :metal
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Post by: Lynxo on August 27, 2014, 12:47:40 AM
I played the original countless times and loved it, and after playing through all the expansions, I could quite imagine how a propel sequel would play out and I was really sceptical.

Fortunally, I was wrong. So, so, very wrong. One of my favorite games of all time.  :metal Really familiar setting but with so many unique twists on things. I actually ordered the Orange Box for my PS3 just a few days ago, mainly for Portal but nothing will stop me from playing Half-Life 2 again. :biggrin:
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Post by: Sacul on August 28, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
I remember trying to play the first one and got stuck at the beginning :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on August 28, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6QTq4.gif)


ok, maybe not huge, but I did miscount somewhere along the line and I actually have 26 games to talk about.  So just count this entry and the next as a tie for #14.


#14a - Super Mario Bros. 2

Released 1988 for NES


(http://josepjroca.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/super_mario_bros2_box_us.jpg)


(http://gengame.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/smb2-content.png)  (http://gaminghistory101.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/smb2_2.jpg)


Sometime in1988/89, my dad had a business trip to Dallas, and my mom went with him.  When they returned, they had the usual souvenir stuff you would bring back from a trade show/business trip.  But they had also purchased an NES game as a surprise.  That turned out to be, you guessed it, Super Mario Bros. 2.  I had my NES for a bit prior to getting this game, and like seemingly everyone else, I had played SMB to absolute death and loved it.  I may have been aware that this game existed, but I was in complete shock to get it and very excited to play it.  At first I was a bit disappointed as it wasn't exactly like the first, but soon I grew to love it.

You have the choice of playing as one of four characters, each having strengths and weaknesses related to jumping height, jumping distance, running speed , and strength.  And you can change your character at the beginning of each level, depending on what is needed.  Mario is well-rounded in that he is above average in all categories although he does lose a bit of jumping ability when carrying an item/enemy.  Luigi's strength is in his jumping ability.  There are certain high jumps in the game that can only be reached with Luigi.  But carrying objects puts a serious damper on this ability.  Toad is strong as heck and runs very fast, but unfortunately he jumps like a busted pogo stick.  The upside is that he can carry items without losing any ability.  And he can pick up enemies and dig in the sand extremely quickly which is very useful on the desert stage where you have to dig to the bottom of the screen.  The Princess is fairly weak in the strength category, but the major plus for her is that she can float in the air for a bit if you hold down the jump button.  Extremely useful on those levels with moving platforms or longer jumps.

There are a few pretty cool stages in this game including one in the desert and one on (very slippery) ice.  Certain parts of the desert are quicksand.  In the game you can't kill enemies by jumping on them like SMB, but you can land on them and ride around on their heads wherever they go.  There is an albatross that flies by at certain points to give you a ride in the air.

And I always thought the bosses in this game were well thought out and designed.  The intermediate bosses are birds that shoot eggs at you which you must jump on, catch, and throw back.  There is a mouse that throws bombs, and a fire-breathing three-headed snake.  I remember one of the bosses is a big fireball called Fryguy that gave me the hardest time.  The first time I beat him, the game almost immediately glitched and started over.  Not fun times.

Not the most difficult game, but provided plenty of replay ability by trying different levels with different characters, etc.  Very fun sequel!
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Post by: Randaran on August 28, 2014, 02:38:11 PM
Ah, the Mario game that's not a Mario game. Of the NES trilogy (tetralogy if you count The Lost Levels), this is the only one I have not played.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 28, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
I prefer the real SMB2. That game is hilariously cruel. :lol
I got bored halfway through the US SMB2. It's ok, but I don't rank it with any of the other 2D Mario games on NES/SNES.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 28, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
Yeah, compared to the classic SMB1 and the epic SMB3, and of course the real SMB2, the reskinned Doki Doki Panic doesn't hold up. But on its own, I still think it's a great game and spent I don't know how long playing through it over and over and over again.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 28, 2014, 11:23:32 PM
I'm with Blob and Bolsy. I really enjoy the nostalgia of thinking back to playing this during the Christmas holidays of 1991 but it's definitely a solid last place for me amongst every Mario platformer I've ever played. I like the music a good bit too. Main theme is like a warm, cozy blanket for my soul, the desert theme is cool, and the boss music is still pretty intense to this day. The character variation was a nice touch too.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 29, 2014, 09:15:02 PM
I like the music a good bit too.
I haven't played any of the more recent games (Wii onwards), but before that I don't think there was any Mario game that didn't have a great soundtrack.
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Post by: Outcrier on August 29, 2014, 09:55:28 PM
SMB2 is a interesting choice, pretty controversial. I don't mind though, i have my controversial picks as well  :tup
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Post by: Big Hath on August 29, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
#14b - Tetris

Released 1989 for Gameboy (obviously among several other release on a multitude of platforms, many of which were earlier than 89)


(http://img2.meristation.com/files/imagenes/general/tetris.jpg)

(http://www.garath.net/Sullla/tetrisgb.jpg) (http://imgsrv.newrock1041.fm/image/kfrr2/UserFiles/Image/Game-Boy-Tetris-1.jpg)


What needs to be said?  I doubt there are many that have never played this.  And if you haven't, it takes about 1 minute of game play to figure out what is going on.  My fondest memories of this game are linking Game Boys for two-player mode on long middle school field trip bus rides.  Epic matches.

The game had been around for a while prior to the Game Boy port, and it being bundled with the Game Boy hardware.  It's been said that Tetris made Game Boy [successful], and Game Boy made Tetris.  While debatable, there is some truth there.  Tetris creator Alexey Pajitnov has said the Game Boy version was his favorite.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 29, 2014, 11:21:10 PM
I like the music a good bit too.
I haven't played any of the more recent games (Wii onwards), but before that I don't think there was any Mario game that didn't have a great soundtrack.

They're all killer. Koji Kondo ftw.

And Tetris. To quote Big Hath, what needs to be said? It's never been one of my personal favourites by any stretch, but I'm not generally into that kind of puzzle game anyway. But I've still played it a ton between its various incarnations and knockoffs, and it's easy to see why it's been so popular. That has to be one of the most copied video games in history. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 30, 2014, 12:27:29 AM
Everyone post your Gameboy version record for lines. Mine's 229.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on August 30, 2014, 12:34:09 AM
They're all killer. Koji Kondo ftw.
Definitely. :metal Zelda games always have great music, too.

Everyone post your Gameboy version record for lines. Mine's 229.
I did have Tetris on Gameboy, but I don't remember my high scores. I played it, though not very much.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 30, 2014, 12:41:24 AM
I maxed out at 146 for the longest. THEN came the Super Gameboy and the combo of larger, brighter screen/infinite playing due to no battery involvement/comfier SNES controller had my record climbing seemingly every week for a while. If I can ever get the least bit comfy on level 20 speed, I'm gonna just play for singles and murk the shit outta my 229 since level 20 is where it stops increasing speed.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2014, 04:38:09 AM
Tetris is in the iconic level of games.  Up there with Donkey Kong, Pacman and Space Invaders.  Never played the Nintendo system versions - cuz I never had a Nintendo system.  I was arcade style all the way.  Can't remember how high I would've gotten.  But fuck, didn't you always get a 4x1 when you didn't need it, and you never got it when you saved the whole fuckin left column!  I can't tell you the number of times I'd filled the whole screen except for one of the outer columns.   >:(
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on August 30, 2014, 04:53:38 AM
My mom played that damn game on "her" own Gameboy every morning. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2014, 05:47:02 AM
mrs.jingle used to play it on her computer a bit.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sycsa on August 30, 2014, 08:48:53 AM
I'd like to sign up for this.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on August 31, 2014, 08:33:34 AM
I once saw a video of a guy playing it on Championship mode, and he played really fast all the time, making lots of points. After some minutes he entered the maximum level, where all the pieces were moving like crazy, even for his fast hands. The best thing happened after he beat the game - he had to play one last time, but then the pieces were invisible! I don't know how he managed to, but beat the fucking mode. Damn asians :lol.

I'd like to sign up for this.
Said and done :hat.

Hey guys, I don't always read all the messages here, so if you said you wanted to sign up for this and I didn't add you, send me a PM with you post and will add you to your place in the list. For future signups, it'd be better if you send me a message.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 31, 2014, 02:31:48 PM
Hey guys, I don't always read all the messages here, so if you said you wanted to sign up for this and I didn't add you, send me a PM with you post and will add you to your place in the list. For future signups, it'd be better if you send me a message.

Might wanna add this to the OP as well.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on August 31, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
The thing is that it already is on the OP :lol. I think that just 2 or 3 users have sent me a PM so far. Anyways, I've updated the OP just to keep it clear.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2014, 04:03:39 PM
Just sayin for SystematicThought and Outcrier... There's a chance I'll delay going.  Gotta finish the Zeppelin discog discussion before I get to this list, so I'll likely drop myself a couple of spots - depending on how long it takes the people above me to go.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 31, 2014, 10:05:56 PM
#13 - Baseball Stars

Released 1989 for NES


(http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_NES/Box/big/Baseball_Stars_-_1989_-_SNK_Corporation.jpg)

(http://199.101.98.242/media/shots/54862-Baseball_Stars_(USA)-2.jpg) (http://img.gamefaqs.net/screens/3/0/a/gfs_28999_2_7.jpg)


I was a huge baseball fan, and loved playing all types of video baseball games.  This one had no real teams or players, but what it did have was the opportunity to make your own team, create players, sign them to contracts, increase stats, etc.  It was the first sports game on the NES I can remember that had this type of built-in career/General Manager mode.  There was also a quasi-role playing aspect in that each player had a prestige rating and the cumulative prestige of the two teams playing that game determined how much money the winning and losing teams earned.  That money could then be distributed among the players to enhance their skills up to that particular player's max skill points.  Or you could save up the money to acquire pricey free-agent star players.

It was one of the only NES games, and the first baseball game, to have a battery backup so you could keep your created teams, configured leagues & seasons, and cumulative statistics (batting average, HRs, ERA, etc) stored in the game's memory chip.

Gameplay is very simple.  Although the fielding aspect was quite advanced for the time.  Players could actually dive and jump for balls in play.  You could even jump at the outfield fence to rob players of homeruns.  Although the game did not have any real players, you could create real players on your user created team.  There was also a CPU team built into the game called the American Dreams that consisted of players with names and stats reminiscent of Pete Rose, Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, Sandy Koufax, etc.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on August 31, 2014, 10:14:55 PM
This one sounds like a diamond in the rough.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 02, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
definitely a fun game.  Fairly popular game for the console too - although obviously not as well known as the big hitters for the NES (Metroid, Mario, Zelda, etc).


According to wikipedia, IGN placed it at #28 in its "Top 100 NES Games".  And Yahoo had it at #3 in their top "Old School" sports games
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 02, 2014, 10:20:46 AM
#13 - Baseball Stars

Released 1989 for NES


MOTHER.  FUCKING.  YES.
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Post by: Big Hath on September 02, 2014, 09:39:57 PM
#12 - Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!

Released 1987 for NES


(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/3413/220826-mike_tyson_s_punch_out.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Baldbull.png) (http://www.nintendocomplete.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Mike-Tysons-Punch-Out-USA_160.png)


007-373-5963

It's burned into my brain.

Yeah, the game is a bit tedious (especially the second time around with Don Flamenco), but it is an absolute classic with one of the harder "final bosses" you will see even though you now what is coming.  It was always the talk of elementary school when someone possibly beat Tyson or felt like they were close to doing it.  "Did you hear so and so beat him?"  There were rumors of older brothers or friends from the next town over, but these were always spoken in hushed tones, perhaps in fear of angering the NES gods.

I always enjoyed fighting Mr. Sandman, Soda Popinski, and Super Macho Man.  The timing on Bald Bull's charge was hit or miss for me.  I never did beat Tyson when I was younger, but I dragged out the NES a couple of years ago and gave this game a run again.  After about 2 weeks of fighting Tyson, I finally got the best of him.  Sure, nobody cared now that I was in my 30's, but one of the nemeses of my childhood was finally vanquished.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 02, 2014, 11:33:02 PM
Someone really needs to make an Andrew Golota Flash game. But yes, MTPO was great fun. Very epic for its time too.
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Post by: Sacul on September 03, 2014, 08:04:25 AM
A damn classic. The Wii remake was good, but nothing beats the original :hat
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 04, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
#11 - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

Released 1988 for NES


(http://legendofzeldafansite.weebly.com/uploads/3/4/7/7/3477294/3561762_orig.jpg)

(http://www.nintendojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/scrn_zeldaII-02-300x279.gif) (http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/310526-zelda-ii-the-adventure-of-link-nes-screenshot-i-m-using-the.png)


A classic action-RPG.  The changes they introduced in this sequel such as the magic meter and the use of several different spells, as well Dark Link and the combining of an RPG with side scrolling platform action were very cool additions to the series.

Not sure what else to say about this one.  I spent many many hours fighting monsters, warriors and creepy crawlies, and exploring Hyrule in this game.  Truly an adventure!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on September 04, 2014, 09:06:53 PM
I'm not really sure why, but I never really got into this game at all. I liked Zelda, I liked platformers, but I just didn't like this game very much. I know it wasn't a distaste for the hybrid of platforming and RPG either, because I remember sinking hours into Faxanadu. Zelda II just never clicked with me.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 04, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
I can't tell you how much time I sunk into Zelda II and Faxanadu.

I remember Thunderbird being hard as all fuck, then a relatively easy fight with shadow Link.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 04, 2014, 09:27:28 PM
Never played 1 minute of Zelda.

:dunno:

Not ever owning an NES might have something to do with it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on September 04, 2014, 11:36:43 PM
I actually just ran through this game earlier today. an absolute blast every time! this is my favorite Zelda, in front of Zelda 1 and Wind Waker rounding out the top 3...
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 05, 2014, 01:21:40 AM
Never played 1 minute of Zelda.

:dunno:

Not ever owning an NES might have something to do with it.

Just play Ocarina of Time. Done.

I've barely played the first one. I just never got into the 2D Zelda games. Wasn't even on my radar until OoT, by which point it's very difficult to go backwards.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on September 05, 2014, 02:53:29 AM
I think ALTTP holds up really well.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on September 05, 2014, 08:54:06 AM
Never played 1 minute of Zelda.

:dunno:

Not ever owning an NES might have something to do with it.

SAME! People always think I'm nuts and look at me as if my head is upside down.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: orcus116 on September 07, 2014, 12:37:08 PM
Zelda 2 may be one of the ugliest 1st party NES games. It's always looked like a really bad, extremely rushed fan game to me visually.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 07, 2014, 01:21:31 PM
Adventure of Link is underrated as hell. I think it gets a bad rap for having a few (albeit pretty annoying) design decisions and for being hard as hell at times. It may not be my favorite Zelda game, but I do think it's still very good, even to this day.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 07, 2014, 07:07:43 PM
#10 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Released 2009 for Xbox


(http://www.techblog.in.th/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/modern-warfare-2-pc.jpg)

(http://www.gameranx.com/screenshots/1256331093-call_of_duty_modern_warfare_2-scr002_preview.jpg) (http://www.breakitdownblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/call-of-duty-6-modern-warfare-2-screenshot-mactavish-snow-squad.jpg)


This was a fairly popular game.

The single-player campaign is very enjoyable even though it is a bit on the short side.  The multi-player aspect is obviously awesome.  And the co-op Special Ops missions were very fun.  The level of detail and polish throughout all three of the main playable modes is amazing.

This is the game I have played the most over the past few years when I've had the chance.  I can't state how much fun I've had running those multiplayer maps in Team Deathmatch.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on September 07, 2014, 08:20:12 PM
Yes! MW2 totally improved all that made great the first one. So sad the campaign is too short.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on September 07, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
Modern Warfare 2; not sure how I feel about this one. The campaign was enjoyable despite its short length and ludicrous story. The multiplayer was ok; I still enjoy playing locally with friends from time to time, though online is a nightmare. Black Ops is far superior in this regard. My favorite part of the game is Spec Ops; getting three stars on some of those missions required strategy and many failed attempts. I particularly enjoyed completing the 2 player missions on Veteran by controlling both players. It is the last good IW CoD, though I have always preferred Treyarch's since WaW.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 07, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
CoD was not the FPS franchise I played.  I played the first 2 Bad Company Battlefield's.  No reason why, just picked up that franchise instead.  Might've had something to do with CoD being more known for the multi-player... which as a fogey, I totaly suck at.  I can't play online multi-player worth shit.  I'm dead within, oh... 4 seconds usually. 
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 07, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
I prefer MW1 in virtually every single way.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Scorpion on September 08, 2014, 12:45:18 AM
I prefer MW1 in virtually every single way.

This. Though that might be the nostalgia factor, because at boarding school we'd play this game via LAN at least twice a week.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on September 08, 2014, 10:18:31 AM
I prefer MW1 in virtually every single way.

This. Though that might be the nostalgia factor, because at boarding school we'd play this game via LAN at least twice a week.

MW1 was, in my opinion, the best FPS ever made. MW2 had so many glitches and hacks, it was unplayable. I also hated how unbalanced the perks were. There was no reason why someone should ever be able to go 18-0 using just knives.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Scorpion on September 08, 2014, 03:18:08 PM
I did that once.

... in a knife-only round.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 08, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
The night I figured out you could pop on Lightweight Pro, Extreme Conditioning and Commando Pro and just sprint around killing everyone with a Magnum/Tac Knife was possibly the greatest night of my life.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on September 08, 2014, 04:24:41 PM
That Punch Out game was the bomb.

If I remember wasn't that Zelda game cartridge gold as well?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 08, 2014, 04:30:22 PM
That Punch Out game was the bomb.

If I remember wasn't that Zelda game cartridge gold as well?

Both Zelda's were gold cartridges.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on September 08, 2014, 04:33:36 PM
The first one was a well?  You know.  I think we still have the games in my parents basement. (Man what a chiche :lol)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 08, 2014, 06:52:42 PM
The first one was a well?  You know.  I think we still have the games in my parents basement. (Man what a chiche :lol)
It's only a cliche if you're down there too.

I think a limited number or the first run were done in gold cartridges only or something. Regardless, the copies of Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 I have are both gold. They might be worth something if the original cases weren't smushed to all hell. I still wouldn't get rid of them though, too much nostalgia there.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on September 08, 2014, 07:55:35 PM
But my bedroom was in the basement in my teen years. (Wanted to mack daddy with my girlfriends)



And play video games. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 08, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
#9 - Contra

Release 1988 for NES


(http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/contra.jpg)

(http://www.gamestm.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/powerup.jpeg) (http://contrapedia.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/34sg4e.gif)


For me, THE definitive run 'n' gun co-op.  This was originally an arcade cabinet released to little fanfare, but once ported to the NES, it became a smash hit and remains popular to this day.  Based on the box, it seems obvious they were trying to play off the huge success of 80's action flicks starring Schwarzenegger and Stallone, plus the addition of Aliens, with the US release.

Some of the weapon upgrades are pretty useless/terrible, but once you got the spread gun, you did everything in your power not to lose it.  You obviously didn't want to die, but you also tried like heck not to shoot the other upgrade egg things while you were killing the enemy.

Also notable for being the game that popularized the Konami code, although we knew it as the Contra code.  For some reason, whoever had the second controller always found it a laugh riot to sabotage the entering of the code while the first player was trying to enter it, causing many resets of the NES followed by arm punches.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 08, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
YES!!!...YES!!!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2014, 10:32:34 PM
I do not remember this one.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 08, 2014, 10:36:04 PM
I do not remember this one.

yet another NES game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
mmmm, that'd do it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Lynxo on September 09, 2014, 03:14:02 AM
Omg, YES! Contra is so awesome! The controls are still to this day one of the best in any run-and-gun game. I love it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: masterthes on September 09, 2014, 04:15:41 AM
All the love in the world for Contra
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 09, 2014, 04:19:44 AM
I've only played a bit of Contra, but it was a cool game. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on September 09, 2014, 07:43:59 AM
Contra was phenomenal.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Outcrier on September 09, 2014, 09:17:54 AM
Contra = awesome NES soundtrack and you don't even mention it  :\
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 09, 2014, 10:09:21 AM
Contra = awesome NES soundtrack and you don't even mention it  :\

eh, I don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games.  Or watching TV/movies for that matter.  Although I do like the soundtrack to my next game in the list.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 09, 2014, 01:34:55 PM
Love Contra. :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 09, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
I do not remember this one.

Proof:  jingle.boy lived under a rock for several years.  Or was snowed in for several years.  It's Canada, so it is possible.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on September 09, 2014, 02:15:44 PM
I do not remember this one.

Proof:  jingle.boy lived under a rock for several years.  Or was snowed in for several years.  It's Canada, so it is possible.

Snowed in without power*
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 09, 2014, 02:17:57 PM
If he was snowed in without the game, he still wouldn't learn about it.  You got to remember in 1989 cell phones and the internet were not ubiquitous entities, and information was largely in the form of your friend saying "Hey, check this out!"
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 09, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
Sadly, I was a C64 guy, not NES.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Outcrier on September 09, 2014, 03:40:31 PM

eh, I don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games.  Or watching TV/movies for that matter.  Although I do like the soundtrack to my next game in the list.

Well, most of the games on your list so far don't have a memorable OST anyway, especially when there are so many pretty old titles.
Maybe that's why you yourself said "i don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games". Or maybe not  :blush
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Mosh on September 09, 2014, 08:50:28 PM
Old games always have the best music though.  :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on September 09, 2014, 09:10:33 PM
Old games always have the best music though.  :metal

Paperboy is now stuck in my head. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 09, 2014, 09:36:09 PM

eh, I don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games.  Or watching TV/movies for that matter.  Although I do like the soundtrack to my next game in the list.

Well, most of the games on your list so far don't have a memorable OST anyway, especially when there are so many pretty old titles.
Maybe that's why you yourself said "i don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games". Or maybe not  :blush

I think the main reason is that usually while I was playing the NES, I was blasting Ride The Lightning or Master Of Puppets.  :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: XJDenton on September 10, 2014, 04:34:02 PM
Contra: Hard Corps was quite superior to the original IMO.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 10, 2014, 07:36:46 PM

eh, I don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games.  Or watching TV/movies for that matter.  Although I do like the soundtrack to my next game in the list.

Well, most of the games on your list so far don't have a memorable OST anyway, especially when there are so many pretty old titles.
Maybe that's why you yourself said "i don't really pay attention to soundtracks while playing games". Or maybe not  :blush

I think the main reason is that usually while I was playing the NES, I was blasting Ride The Lightning or Master Of Puppets.  :metal

Brilliant.  My soundtrack to Final Fantasy 6 was Master of Puppets.  I have no idea if Nobuo Uematsu was on FFVI, but I imagine it had a great soundtrack anyway :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Outcrier on September 10, 2014, 09:37:58 PM
Brilliant.  My soundtrack to Final Fantasy 6 was Master of Puppets.  I have no idea if Nobuo Uematsu was on FFVI, but I imagine it had a great soundtrack anyway :lol

"A great soundtrack"? More like a "godlike soundtrack", easily one of the best ever made, how dare you play FF6 listening to shit like Master of Puppets instead of the original OST  >:(
 
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 10, 2014, 10:12:24 PM
Agreed. FFVI had a godlike soundtrack. One of the best in the business IMO.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 10, 2014, 10:22:31 PM
#8 - Blaster Master

Released 1988 for NES


(http://www.glitchgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/blastermasternes.jpg)

(http://www.amha.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/bm3.gif) (https://warosu.org/data/vr/img/0015/08/1396246451107.jpg)


Outcrier, you will be happy to know I really like the soundtrack to this game!  :)

The premise of the game is that you are a little boy who's pet frog has jumped into a hole and you follow him in.  At the bottom you find a futuristic tank so the obvious next step is to suit up, climb inside, and go fight radioactive mutants in order to find your frog.  The game features very smooth controls, really well designed levels and bosses, highly detailed graphics, and the aforementioned soundtrack.

There are two types of game-play depending on where you are in each stage.  The first is a 2D platform mode played primarily inside the tank (you can exit the tank in this mode, although that is highly unadvised unless you are at a point when it is required to move ahead) that scrolls both horizontally and vertically - very reminiscent of Metroid.  The second gives more of a 3D top down perspective in which you have exited the tank and are exploring caves, labyrinths, fortresses, etc to find the boss of each stage.

Blaster Master is notable for having one of the most badass vehicles you'll find in a game.  The cannon can fire horizontally in both directions and vertically.  The cannon's firepower can also be upgraded as you progress through the game.  You can also earn abilities throughout the game that allow it to hover, dive in water, and climb walls/drive on ceilings.  There are special weapons sprinkled throughout the levels like homing missiles and lightning attacks.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/530UThOxcnDRhGJhNxEfrFiMH7vS_p3wjQZ1BNXVjuABoMFtWTaArVHSpk3Q_EU7426CSLxWCNxHT2LxUaU2anSrQC7Zllv2tMaB3MGh-YsMxvjd7Q) (http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/189/d/3/sophia_the_3rd__blaster_master__by_dragonfly929-d6clz5r.png)

I loved this game (and the tank) so much that most of my 5th/6th grade writing assignments revolved around fiction dedicated to it.  It is a very difficult and long game.  There are also no save points or passwords, so it had to be completed all at once.

One of the few opening sequences I would rarely skip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb8b02474FM

And here is the soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRot9Y9NIY  Forest, Catacombs, Factory, aw heck they are all great tunes for a video game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on September 10, 2014, 10:34:06 PM
Oh fuck, huge nostalgia hit. If you'd asked me "Have you played Blaster Master?" I'd have replied "Never heard of it." But, seeing the box cover and those screenshots, some distant memories of playing this game riding around in the tank and getting in and out of it came back in an instant. I'd forgotten all about it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Cool Chris on September 10, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Dang... Zelda 2, Punch Out, Blaster Master.... you are an NES masochist!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 10, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
Never heard of Blaster Master, but it looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Outcrier on September 10, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
Never played Blaster Master, but the OST, which i first heard though Vomitron metal medley of it, surely is memorable.
It isn't in the same level of Contra though imo.

Also, Zelda 2 OST is awesome (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7Sh82Mzdc).
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 11, 2014, 01:26:00 AM
Brilliant.  My soundtrack to Final Fantasy 6 was Master of Puppets.  I have no idea if Nobuo Uematsu was on FFVI, but I imagine it had a great soundtrack anyway :lol

"A great soundtrack"? More like a "godlike soundtrack", easily one of the best ever made, how dare you play FF6 listening to shit like Master of Puppets instead of the original OST  >:(
 

 :blush sorry papa  :blush
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Outcrier on September 11, 2014, 02:34:11 AM
Be ashamed of yourself, son  :police:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on September 11, 2014, 08:37:51 AM
Blaster Master is the shiiiiit! Me and brother used to play this all the time! In fact, when we used to play the old NES games, a lot of times we would try to make up Game Genie codes and see what would happen, and my bro came up with the BEST GAME GENIE CODE for this game!

KKPSTV - One. Hit. Kills. Everything (including bosses) dies in one hit. You tend to take a little more damage, as well, but it's not too bad. Actually it's the only way I've ever beaten the game. I think the furthest I got as a kid without the code was the level 5 boss (the crab in the picture). That guy was hard!

In case anyone who liked the original didn't know about the recent sequel (with an updated soundtrack complete with all the old, awesome songs), check out Blaster Master: Overdrive for the Wii. Very similar gameplay, slightly easier than the original, but certainly not a walk in the park.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 12, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
#7 - Railroad Tycoon

Released 1990 for PC


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Sid_Meier%27s_Railroad_Tycoon.jpg)

(http://101videogames.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/railroad-tycoon-screenshot-2.gif) (http://schlueters.de/blog/uploads/railroad_tycoon02.png)


Before Sid Meier brought us Civilization, he created Railroad Tycoon.  This is basically a business simulation game, but with trains!  Yes, it is as cool as it sounds.  You basically start a railroad company from scratch (sometime in the 1800s), choosing where you want to lay track and build stations as well as purchasing trains and determining their consists and schedules.  You start with $1M cash as capital that is 50% equity (from a stock sale) and 50% debt (bonds).  As the game progresses, you have the option of selling more stock, buying back stock for treasury, or selling/repaying bonds.  You can even buy stock in rival railroads, and if you eventually buy enough, you sit on their board and make decisions as a controlling interest.

You also get into the details of the railroad business as well as local economies.  The game does a fair job of modelling supply and demand and has a very simple stock market consisting of the four competing railroad companies.  As the years go by, the nation experiences recessions and booms which affect how you go about scheduling trains and how many cars to attach to each.  Each town/city has it's own specific raw materials and plants, so it makes sense to carry coal from a coal producing city to another city in your railway that has a power plant.  Or you want to deliver lumber to a paper mill.  That city will then make paper which you can deliver to numerous cities and turn lots of profit.  After you make enough cash, you can even build your own plants to process raw goods.

Depending on the difficulty settings you choose, you may find that a rival railroad has built track into one of your stations at which point you are competing with them in a rate war (you can also build track into competitors stations).  After a certain amount of time, the cities council will vote on which railroad is serving the city better, forcing the loser to leave town.

Hotels, restaurants, post offices, engine maintenance shops and other improvements can be added to your stations.  Of course, you have to way the cost against the potential profits (or cost savings) you would get from those additions.

Also wanted to mention that this was not the first business simulation game I ever played.  That honor would go to the old Lemonade Stand game I used to play in the computer lab at my elementary school around 3rd grade or so.  I'm pretty sure that would have been on an old Apple IIe I believe.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 12, 2014, 10:37:13 PM
Sounds hard to keep track of it all. Does it have a training mode?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 12, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
yes, but it's called a tutorial.

by the way, I like how you conducted yourself in that first class post.  But it seems you started running out of steam by the end.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: kingshmegland on September 13, 2014, 04:28:18 AM
Dear God, I haven't played that game in 3 decades.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2014, 06:03:05 AM
Never played this one from Sid, but I spent a lot of time with SimGolf.

Also, I played the shit out of Lemonade stand too.  Sometimes profiting quite nicely, sometimes out of business after one batch.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 15, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
update coming in a day or two.  All day team meetings at work this week means I'm having to do my actual work at night.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on September 19, 2014, 09:17:43 AM
I'm too young to know all these games :lol .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 19, 2014, 09:24:36 PM
#6 - Tecmo Bowl

Released 1989 for NES


(http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_medium/mig/4/4/9/3/2214493-nes_tecmobowl.jpg)

(http://throwbackattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Tecmo_Bowl_NES_ScreenShot4.gif) (http://gamelab.mit.edu/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bo_jackson_tecmo_bowl1.jpg)

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/19297/1/1.jpg)


Yes, four plays.  That's all you get.  It's all you need.

Upon it's release, Tecmo Bowl became one of the best and most beloved sports video games of its era.  It featured 12 teams from the mid/late 80's, each having a unique 4-play playbook and player personnel.  This was also the first console game to have rights from the NFLPA, so it had real players.  I loved using Chicago because Walter Payton was my all-time favorite player, and he is one of the best players in the game.

Bo Jackson is the fastest offensive player in the game, and one of the most powerful players overall.  Of all the legendary things he is known for, aside from the "Bo Knows" commercials, this is the thing that people remember him for.  It raised his status from legend to immortal.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 20, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
Tecmo Super Bowl was a massive improvement over the original.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dark Castle on September 20, 2014, 11:48:47 AM
Tecmo Super Bowl was a massive improvement over the original.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 20, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
while I agree, I never played the original version of it very much.  However, the hacked ROMs of TSB are spectacular (college teams, all-time teams, super bowl winners, etc).
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Lynxo on September 21, 2014, 03:32:32 PM
A bit late, but I love Blaster Master! James and Mike (of Cinemassacre/Angry Video Game Nerd fame) recently made a Let's Play of that game that's quite fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIGRkncz31I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIGRkncz31I)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 22, 2014, 10:26:37 PM
#5 - Discs of Tron

Released 1983 as an arcade cabinet


(https://forum-s3.pinside.com/201209/407518/43942.jpg)

(http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/pub/large/tron.jpg) (http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/05/xbla-discs-of-tron---original-4.jpg)
(http://www.mamedb.com/cpanels/dotrone.png)


This is not the 1982 arcade game Tron, which featured four mini games: Light Cycles, Tanks, MCP, and I/O Tower.  However this game was meant to be a fifth section of that original, but programming was not complete in time for the release.  Similar to the original Tron it uses the same "fighter jet" joystick to move Tron, coupled with a spinning rotary knob to aim your disc throws left, right, up and down (by pulling up or pushing down on the knob).

This game is a mash-up of the Jai alai and disc battle sequences in the original Tron film.  I should also state here that I LOVE that movie.  It's one of the first movies I can ever remember seeing (E.T., released one month prior to Tron, was the first movie I can remember seeing in the theater).  The lighting, the sound effects, Bit, the Light Cycles, and that awesome opening sequence.  Simply magical for my 5 year old eyes and imagination.  Oh yeah, and that ridiculously big door.  Now THAT is a big door!

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ehRJcFYJ0Bk/maxresdefault.jpg)


Anyway, to start the game, you are on a single platform playing against Sark, also on a single platform, throwing up to three discs at a time.  The objective is to either hit the opponent directly with a disc or force them off their platform into the abyss below.  As the game goes on, the platform configuration changes in number and in height.  In some stages there is also an electric barrier that passes between the players and they must first knock out "windows" in the barrier before they can hit their opponent.  Sark has a couple of nasty tricks up his sleeve in the form of chasers and bombs that he throws at you in addition to his discs.  I always loved the sounds effects in this game as well.  The soundtrack was sparse, so you really got the full effect of the cracking explosion of the discs if they collided in mid air, and the bouncy thud as you moved from platform to platform.

Simple? Yes.  But I had the ability to actually BE Tron and knock the crap out of that smarmy Sark with my identity disc.  That, my friends, was simply awesome.  And I paid quarter after quarter for that experience.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 22, 2014, 10:57:19 PM
That is a bizarre cabinet. It seems weird to waste money on an enclosed cabinet without making it a sit-down game in a true cockpit design. I wish I was old enough to appreciate Tron in its own time since I was an 81 baby. Seems way cool though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 23, 2014, 08:08:28 AM
it was actually released in a couple different cabinet formats.  The enclosed cabinet shown above, and a traditional open cabinet.

(http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/Cabinet/big/Discs_of_Tron_-_1983_-_Bally_Midway.jpg)


The enclosed "environmental" cabinet was trying to put you in the position of Tron.  Your feet were on a disc made of concentric circles just like the character in the game.  When you died in the game, the disc below you and about a thousand other lights went crazy in the cabinet.  The sound in the cabinet was pretty awesome as well.  You heard the discs flying by your head and it really amplified the game to another level.

Also, the enclosed cabinet had a sort of half-seat to rest on while you played.  Here is a better look.

(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/862/dotron01ha7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on September 23, 2014, 08:11:48 AM
I'd also think it'd add to the allure. You kind of get to play the game in private as opposed to a bunch of people watching you play over your shoulder.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 23, 2014, 08:28:21 AM
I remember Discs of Tron.  Being in the cabinet was like being isolated in the arena with Sark.  Don't remember much else other than not being good at it at age 8.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 23, 2014, 07:26:06 PM

(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/862/dotron01ha7.jpg)

Mount a vibrating device on that and I'll set up my auto-draft.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 25, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
#4 - Spy Hunter

Released 1983 as an arcade cabinet


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(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/118124217274.png) (http://blog.ultrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Spy_Hunter2.png)


When I was age 7 - 10 or so, my parents would go to the local mall usually once every couple of weeks to walk around, shop, look at stuff, whatever.  My primary goal during these visits was to bum as many quarters off my parents as I could and then sprint to Aladdin's Castle as fast as possible.  I knew every secret path through the department stores, the layout of the clothes racks and mannequins, and the best way to navigate the flow of foot traffic in the main mall corridors.  My mission was to play Spy Hunter.

I can remember when my parents would pick me up after these sessions I would imagine that they were actual vehicles from the game and I would bounce off them trying to "wreck" them on the side of the road as we walked to the mall exit.  I'm sure they loved me for that.

The game had an awesome interface with that combat-jet style steering wheel with all the special function buttons.  Smoke, oil, missiles, and dual machine guns were all at my finger tips.  You could even drive the car through a boathouse and come crashing out the other side speeding down a river since the car has now been converted into a fire-breathing speedboat.  The thing that always confused me about the game is that some of the cabinet artwork also showed a jet, but you never get the chance to convert to that.  I've read that the designers had planned for it, but simply ran out of available memory.

The game had a top down perspective and was a vertical scroller.  Your car was blazing fast, so this was a high-action game and you could wreck yourself very quickly without sharp reflexes.  Various enemy vehicles would gang up on you: the normal car with wheel spikes, the bullet-proof "fatty" car, the drive-by shooter in the limo, and a helicopter dropping bombs.  In each new territory, you could call for a weapons van you could drive into to replenish your special weapons.

Similar to Blaster Master, this game has a freaking awesome vehicle that inspired many fictional stories and artwork from me.

Finally, the other cool draw for this game was the electronic version of the awesome Peter Gunn theme.  A spy classic!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on September 25, 2014, 10:23:30 PM
Very good writeup, Anne HATHaway. I've really enjoyed your literary style thus far but this one may be the best. I really wanna try this game now as you've made it sound extremely fun.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 25, 2014, 10:45:56 PM
Anne HATHaway

awwwe, you guessed!!



Thanks for the kind words.  Really fun game although I assumed most would know it or would have at least seen or heard of it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 26, 2014, 08:39:33 AM
Top notch arcade game.  I blew many quarters on this one myself.  The graphics were pretty groundbreaking at the time too.  One of (if not) the best sit-down games of the time
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 26, 2014, 08:09:36 PM
Hell, yeah. I remember playing the console version of this game at a friend's house one time and having a lot of fun.

Now I just want to play it again...
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 28, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
#3 - Bionic Commando

Released 1988 for NES


(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/9/3/9/26939_front.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SxfO03qzdhk/TJvXu8e2_wI/AAAAAAAAA3o/FEfKwbz2Pbk/s1600/Bionic+Commando+(U)+%5B!%5D_001.jpg) (http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/images/d/dc/Bionic_Commando_-_NES_-_Map.png)

(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/56183-bionic-commando-nes-screenshot-enemy-truck-encounters-are-shown.png) (http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/images/d/de/Bionic_Commando_-_NES_-_Albatross.png)


Originally, this was to be a sequel to the popular Commando arcade/NES game, and you can see a bit of that legacy in the top down run-and-gun sections of Bionic Commando, although those are a small fraction of the overall game action.  This is a vastly different game than Commando, and although gameplay is similar to the arcade game it was ported from, it is also very different from that incarnation as well.  In this game, you are tasked with rescuing your pal Super Joe (the main character of Commando) and also discovering the mystery and secrets of the Albatros project.

This was a very unique game at the time with the primary mode of movement being a bionic grappling arm that allowed the player to swing and pull himself forward or up.  The grappling arm was necessary because even though this was a platform game (mostly), the primary character could not jump.  Weapon upgrades are available from wide-range gun, bazookas, and machine guns.

The flow of the game is somewhat non-linear in that you choose which areas to direct your helicopter to on the main map.  You drop-in to the zone which is either hostile or neutral.  Before exploring each area, you had to choose what weapon to use, what special object to carry, and what communications device to bring.  Each one was vital to your success on that level.  One of the big gotchas of this game is that only certain communication devices worked in certain areas, so you had to keep track to be able to figure out where to go and how to proceed.  Eventually, you learn that the bad guys are trying to resurrect the dead "Master-D" which is a not so disguised version of Hitler.  After defeating Master-D and his "Albatros" machine, you have a really cool 60 second timed level to go back into the enemy base, rescue Super Joe, and escape by hooking your bionic arm onto a helicopter as you fly away while the enemy base self destructs.








This game has one of the most memorable deaths in video game history.  I give you Hitler's Master-D's exploding head:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18n1v5n5l90ocgif/original.gif)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Lynxo on September 29, 2014, 12:41:38 AM
I love the old school-nes of your list.  :heart

I've never tried that particular game myself but I've seen plenty of it, and it does seem awesome.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 29, 2014, 09:58:02 AM
Also first mainstream game with a "swear".

My friend Bryan and I lost it when Hitler-D called us "damned fools".  Bryan and I weren't particularly close friends, but that one sticks out.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 29, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
Also first mainstream game with a "swear".

My friend Bryan and I lost it when Hitler-D called us "damned fools".  Bryan and I weren't particularly close friends, but that one sticks out.

Yes!  I cannot believe that slipped through the Nintendo censors.  Complete laugh riot in our group of friends whenever we got to that point in the game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 30, 2014, 09:49:02 PM
#2 - Wolfenstein 3D

Released 1992 for PC


(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/0/0/5/17005_front.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/0/09/Wolfenstein_3D_aloituskuva.jpg/640px-Wolfenstein_3D_aloituskuva.jpg) (http://media3.playstadium.dk/img/kap/multi/w/wolfenstein3d/wolfenstein3d_1.jpg)

(http://hi-news.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/wolf3db.jpg)


The game that basically created the first-person shooter genre.

I got my first PC in 1992 and I remember my dad coming home one day soon thereafter having visited one of the many generic pc/software stores that had popped up everywhere at the time.  Among the things he brought home was a curious shareware floppy disc entitled Wolfenstein 3D.  I was hooked from the moment I fired my first shot at a Nazi guard.  The maze-like level maps, secret doors, the ability to change weapons, find ammo, health, and treasures.  I spent untold hours wandering the halls of these vast Nazi strongholds.

The game consists of three episodes, each containing 9 maps/levels (plus a secret level).  Naturally the enemies you encountered became more and more hard to kill and better armed as you went along.  At the end of each level, you were presented with sort of a report card that told you what percentage of treasure you collected, enemies you killed, and secrets doors you opened.  Gameplay is very tense, the sound design is very good for the time, and the moody soundtrack sets the perfect tone as you run down long corridors and search rooms while hunting down your captors.

Unlike Bionic Commando, this game made absolutely no attempt to hide references to nazism, swastikas, etc.  Several of the rooms and maps are based entirely on swastikas.  Hitler is boldly included as the primary bad guy (naturally).  The theme song is the Nazi Party's anthem.  Although Nazis and Hitler are portrayed as the enemy, this led to the banning of the game in Germany that continues to this day.  My understanding is that even the free web browser version is unplayable if accessed while in Germany.

If you are interested in more about the creation of this game as well as the guys that went on to create Doom and Quake, there is a great book called Masters of Doom that details the history of id Software.  These guys were at the leading edge of creating masterful games, rendering graphics, and pioneering game engines.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: masterthes on September 30, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
Is that Hitler in a robot suit?  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on September 30, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on September 30, 2014, 11:54:07 PM
I was more of a Doom guy myself in '92-'93, but I'll give a tip of the hat to the overall 3D quest/map games. This was the invention of the FPS genre.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Lynxo on October 01, 2014, 01:16:35 AM
yes, yes it is.
And what a glorious sight it is.

In hindsight, it kinda reminds me of the movie Nazis at the Center of the Earth. Also featuring a robot Hitler. :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on October 01, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
Eh, I prefer Super 3D Noah's Ark.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 01, 2014, 02:05:42 PM
Love Wolfenstein. Like jingle.boy, I'm more of a Doom guy though. Doom 2 was the first video game I ever "played", in quotes because I have memories of my grandpa controlling movement and letting me press the shoot button when necessary. The nostalgia. :heart And that game still holds up well today IMO.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: masterthes on October 01, 2014, 05:20:55 PM
So, I'm guessing E.T. at number one, right?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on October 01, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
So, I'm guessing E.T. at number one, right?  :biggrin:

What else could it possibly be? It is truly a masterpiece that stands far above all other games. 10/10, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on October 01, 2014, 09:29:52 PM
So, I'm guessing E.T. at number one, right?  :biggrin:

I had/have that game.  One of the most frustrating games I can ever remember playing.  Terrible controls and visuals.  An absolute mess of a game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 01, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
So, I'm guessing E.T. at number one, right?  :biggrin:
Superman 64 probably.

Hell yeah on Wolfenstein. That was the very first PC game I ever played. I used to go to a friend's house and we'd play the game together, he would control movement and I'd shoot the gun. We played through at least five or six Wolfenstein episodes like that. Then we moved on to Doom when that came out. I'm more of a Doom guy, but there's no denying how cool Wolfenstein was back in the day. An absolute classic that helped to create an entire genre.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Chino on October 02, 2014, 06:59:08 AM
#1

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U_xWHanyqyM/UWctI03741I/AAAAAAAAGAA/WF8sHKovRps/w506-h505/snake1.jpg)

Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 02, 2014, 07:06:12 AM
Big Rigs or GTFO.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on October 02, 2014, 07:01:18 PM
Desert Bus or GTFO.

FTFY
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Genowyn on October 02, 2014, 07:30:11 PM
BIIIIIIIIIIIG MUTHA FUCKINN RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGS

http://cinemassacre.com/2014/03/19/avgn-big-rigs-over-the-road-racing/
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 02, 2014, 09:04:12 PM
#1's gonna be Shenmue you fucking plebs.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
Dragon's Lair II, FTW.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 02, 2014, 09:42:19 PM
Did that one use laser disc as well?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2014, 10:41:01 PM
But of course!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Sacul on October 06, 2014, 06:26:11 PM
The hype is killing me.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on October 06, 2014, 10:06:40 PM
#1 - RBI Baseball

Released 1988 for NES


(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/6/0/2/49602_front.jpg)

(http://www.tecmobowl-vs-rbi.com/uploads/3/5/3/8/3538178/8839954.jpg?513)


I've spent more time with this game than anything else video game related in my life.  This was the game that everyone in my group of friends played constantly, from riding bikes to each others' houses after school to sneak in a few games before homework, to Dr. Pepper and Laffy Taffy/Big League Chew-fueled sleepovers that left us like zombies the next day.  It sparked many a debate as well: Can a pitcher hit a home run?  Why do those weak pinch hitters always seem to hit a home run?  What is the best way to invoke the mini-pitcher glitch?  These were the important life questions of our day.

I was 10/11 when this came out and Major League Baseball was my life.  It was the first baseball game I remember to include actual MLB players and their attributes (for the most part).  My favorite player at the time was Dale Murphy, and he was easily one of the better players in the game which included many of the stars of the mid-80's.  Many of the homeruns by the power hitters in the game are absolute moonshots that go completely out of the stadium.  When the players are put out on the basepath, they go crying back to the bench (maddeningly running faster than they did while running the bases).

RBI has simple game-play, doughy indistinguishable characters, inexplicable glitches, monotonous music, a computer opponent that plays like a 3 year old, and every game takes place in the same exact stadium.  Nonetheless, many of those characteristics lend charm to this game that has led to several tribute websites and followers that hold the banner for the game to this day.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2014, 10:24:28 PM
Oh man, I'd totally forgotten about this game. Talk about a trip down memory lane!

When the players are put out on the basepath, they go crying back to the bench (maddeningly running faster than they did while running the bases).

 :rollin :rollin  Yup.

I played a lot of this one too.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 06, 2014, 11:14:31 PM
Unfortunately I'm not much of a diamond bags fan so I'm chokin on a splinter this time out. Regardless, I thoroughly enjoyed your list and your writeups were quite captivating overall. If you ever wanna make a cleanup pass and make a second list down the line, I'll gladly follow that too.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Cool Chris on October 07, 2014, 08:24:46 PM
Excellent game when it came out, we played this for hours. Always loved how Vince Coleman or Ozzie Smith would beat out a grounder wherever it went.

Thanks for the memories Big Hath. You would have been a good friend to have growing up in the NES days.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 07, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
I don't know...I don't think this would be on my top 3 NES baseball games.  Certainly not ahead of Baseball Stars and Bases Loaded, and Bad News Baseball, baseball Sumulator 1.0, and a few others as well.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on October 07, 2014, 09:32:45 PM
Unfortunately I'm not much of a diamond bags fan so I'm chokin on a splinter this time out. Regardless, I thoroughly enjoyed your list and your writeups were quite captivating overall. If you ever wanna make a cleanup pass and make a second list down the line, I'll gladly follow that too.

cool.  Glad someone got some enjoyment out of this list.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on October 07, 2014, 10:20:48 PM
Excellent game when it came out, we played this for hours. Always loved how Vince Coleman or Ozzie Smith would beat out a grounder wherever it went.

Thanks for the memories Big Hath. You would have been a good friend to have growing up in the NES days.

there is a trick to throwing out Coleman trying to steal second base.  Even if you do the "quick-throw" from catcher to second he will be safe.  However if you make the catcher throw to home (he will do it because he is standing slightly behind the plate since he just received the pitch) he will throw a fast grounder straight to second base just in time to  catch him for an out.


It's amazing how much fun we squeezed out of that NES.  Ride you bike over to my house after school Friday if your mom will let you and we can fire it up again.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: masterthes on October 08, 2014, 07:57:05 AM
I enjoyed reading this list, not sure if I'd agree with some of the choices, but I'm sure if I were to make a list, there'd be a lot of retro games at the top for me as well
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 08:01:05 AM
If I were to make a list, only a couple of games would be past the N64 era, with most of them from the 8/16 bit era. Bring on more retro, I say!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on October 08, 2014, 08:24:46 AM
The complete list

1. RBI Baseball (NES)
2. Wolfenstein 3D (PC)
3. Bionic Commando (NES)
4. Spy Hunter (Arcade)
5. Discs of Tron (Arcade)
6. Tecmo Bowl (NES)
7. Railroad Tycoon (PC)
8. Blaster Master (NES)
9. Contra (NES)
10. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Xbox 360)
11. Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (NES)
12. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
13. Baseball Stars (NES)
14a. Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES)
14b. Tetris (Gameboy)
15. Half Life 2 (Xbox 360)
16. Madden NFL 2005 (Xbox)
17. Grand Theft Auto III (Xbox)
18. Driver (Playstation)
19. Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones (NES)
20. Combat (Atari 2600)
21. Splinter Cell (Xbox)
22. Portal (Xbox 360)
23. Ivan 'Ironman' Stewart's Super Off Road (Arcade)
24. Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection/Pinball FX 2 (Xbox)
25. ZeroZap (TI-99/4A)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on October 08, 2014, 12:59:09 PM
If I were to make a list, only a couple of games would be past the N64 era, with most of them from the 8/16 bit era. Bring on more retro, I say!

For me it would be the exact opposite; there would be very few, if any, games from 5th gen and before. Some newer retro style games may make it, though.

I definitely liked this list. Even though I have heard of very few of these entries, I still enjoyed the writeups. Great job.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Lynxo on October 08, 2014, 01:52:51 PM
I'm really excited about doing one of these of my own but I'm so far down the list. :lol Oh well, I really enjoy reading other people's lists as well. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 06:15:15 PM
If I were to make a list, only a couple of games would be past the N64 era, with most of them from the 8/16 bit era. Bring on more retro, I say!

For me it would be the exact opposite; there would be very few, if any, games from 5th gen and before. Some newer retro style games may make it, though.

Nothing wrong with that either! For me it's personal preference of the popular genres of games they were making back then vs now. I'm just not into many of the modern genres of games, and I'm not a big enough gamer these days to justify buying the new consoles for the few games I am interested in. The couple of games that would make my list from the past decade are very much kids' games. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 08, 2014, 08:39:19 PM
Good list. I can safely say mine will not be as retro, though it'll have it's fair share of oldies. :)

If it's my turn next (I think I'm next on the list, right?), I'll get my first pick up either tonight or tomorrow night.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on October 08, 2014, 09:22:57 PM
If I were to make a list, only a couple of games would be past the N64 era, with most of them from the 8/16 bit era. Bring on more retro, I say!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrn0hl5oJR1qdshi4o1_500.gif)

Though, no Nintendo here.  Different platform.  Got my list, just gotta start some writeups so I can keep things moving when it's my turn.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Big Hath on October 08, 2014, 10:25:32 PM
apologies again for my list taking as long as it did.  Q3 was a crazy time at work.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 09, 2014, 08:35:34 PM
Well, without further ado, might as well start this list up.

25. Rock Band 2 (X-Box 360: 2008)
Regardless of the current state of music party games these days, Rock Band was the default, go-to party game amongst my friends and I for at two to least three years. I don't play the game much anymore (mostly because my 360 was borked by a red ring of death...) but that longevity is an impressive feat.
   
Rock Band is a relatively simple game. Notes scroll down the screen and you attempt to hit those notes in time with the music on your plastic guitar, keyboard (on the sequel), or drum set. There's also a spot for a singer but, unlike real bands, nobody cares about him. What makes Rock Band so successful is it plays into everyone's desire to be a badass rockstar while having a deep selection of songs and relatively simple gameplay that can be enjoyable for both the novice and the hardened plastic-axe shredder. There's very little that's more satisfying than finally acing a difficult song as a band.

I don't have much to say about this game, most should be familiar with it, but it really is an impressive party game. Unlike some other party-style games, it's even fun by yourself, but it certainly loses a little something when you're only performing as a solo act.

While there are some differences between Rock Band, Rock Band 2, and Rock Band 3, I really could've picked any of them. Ultimately, Rock Band 2 gets the pick, primarily because A) I played it much, much more than the others B) I liked its setlist the best (not counting DLC songs) and C) I think it really provided the most polished, most refined version of the game without cluttering things up with too many instruments and options.

I highly recommend Rock Band 2 for any wannabe musicians with no actual musical skill, underground karaoke stars, and folks with an affinity for plastic guitars.

(http://dakkster.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/rock_band_2_nirvana_lyrics.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: ReaperKK on October 09, 2014, 09:43:32 PM
I only played a little bit of Rock Band 2 but I did love the first Rock Band game. So much fun in my college apartment drinking and playing rock band.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2014, 09:54:20 PM
RB, RB2, and Lego RB got a bit of play for a couple of years with the jingle.kids.  Then the appeal waned, and the drums have been gathering a few inches of dust over the last year or two.  Lots of fun though.  I played online a few times, and once , on expert level I think, Panic Attack comes up in a 3-song metal block.  That and Battery ... I forget the 3rd song.  Well, the guitar and bass player I was playing with got right pissed at me because I tanked them on Battery (was never a fan of MoP), but then did ok with Panic Attack.  Then I did shit with the third song.

They kicked me out of the band after that.  :jets:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: ariich on October 10, 2014, 02:25:16 AM
I really enjoyed the Rock Band/Guitar Hero games, played them a whole load when I first got into them, but haven't touched them at all for ages. I can't disagree with their inclusion in your list because they were damn original, I just haven't found they had much staying power for me.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on October 10, 2014, 02:46:19 AM
I played one of the Rock Band games once. I can definitely see the appeal, but it's not a game for me.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 10, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
I vacillated over whether to include Rock Band 2 on the list, but it just came down to how much time I spent with the game and how much fun I had which is the primary job of a video game. So, I regret nothing!

24. Super Smash Brothers: Melee (Gamecube: 2001)
Might as well get the party games out of the way first, I guess. By their very nature party games just aren't as fun when played solo and Super Smash Brothers: Melee, much more than Rock Band actually, certainly lives up to that. I don't think I've ever had a desire to play this game by myself but man oh man is this game fun with a room full of friends.

Before Rock Band, the Smash Brothers series was the party game of choice for my friends and I. Lounging on a couch, drinking copious amounts of soda, staying up way too late, while hurling sexually-laced insults and smash attacks at each other, this game defined my immediate post-high school years.

The gameplay is uber-simple but fairly robust: choose from amongst a roster of Nintendo characters and beat the shit out of your friends. Everything works in this game:  the items are all fun, the stages are varied, and every character has their own suite of tricks that make them unique and (mostly) fun to play without being overpowered or worthless. The fact that Nintendo was able to do this with such a fairly expansive selection of characters is impressive.
 
You can have computer bots in the game to fill the holes left by friends that have to work, have school or are out with their significant other, but it's just not the same. Super Smash Brothers: Melee excels when you have four people playing in the same dingy (basement) room and sitting on the same cheeto-stained couch. There's nothing quite like screaming sexually suggestive commentaries on the barnyard proclivities of your friends' mothers after a particularly intense bout.

As with Rock Band, my choice over which entry in the Smash Brothers series really came down to how much time I spent with each game. I probably played the original more, but Melee is an improvement in nearly every single way. Comparing Brawl and Melee is a bit tougher, mostly because I just haven't spent as much time with Brawl. It's a good entry, but all of my great memories come from Melee. So suck it Brawl!

Anyways, Super Smash Brothers: Melee comes highly recommended for people who love to yell their friends, for people that hate their thumbs, and for those who've always wanted to beat the crap out of Yoshi.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 10, 2014, 10:12:43 PM
:tup Great choice. I personally slightly prefer the original on straight gameplay, because I think the pace is a little better, and Melee has too many items and level traps for my liking, but I've still played the hell out of Melee too. There's a ton of replay value in there, between all of the different modes. I haven't played any past Melee yet.

Pikachu is always my go-to "beat the shit out of" character. :lol

Who's your main character? I've always been a Luigi guy.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on October 10, 2014, 10:20:26 PM
Yeah I played the hell out of this game too, but also give the nod to the original.

I liked playing as Kirby, even though they nerfed him quite a bit for Melee. I also played a lot as Roy and Mewtwo.

Like Blob, I haven't played anything more recent than Melee.
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Post by: Genowyn on October 10, 2014, 10:24:44 PM
Melee is the correct choice.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 10, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
Great choice. I personally slightly prefer the original on straight gameplay, because I think the pace is a little better, and Melee has too many items and level traps for my liking, but I've still played the hell out of Melee too. There's a ton of replay value in there, between all of the different modes. I haven't played any past Melee yet.
I can respect that. Personally, I think Brawl is where the items and level traps get out of control. In Melee, there's enough to keep things interesting but not too many to overpower the gameplay.

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Who's your main character? I've always been a Luigi guy.
Link and Bowser were usually my favorites but I really enjoyed just playing random characters and not sticking to only one or two. Hated Game and Watch and Yoshi though. I avoided them at all costs.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 10, 2014, 10:52:30 PM
Great choice. I personally slightly prefer the original on straight gameplay, because I think the pace is a little better, and Melee has too many items and level traps for my liking, but I've still played the hell out of Melee too. There's a ton of replay value in there, between all of the different modes. I haven't played any past Melee yet.
I can respect that. Personally, I think Brawl is where the items and level traps get out of control. In Melee, there's enough to keep things interesting but not too many to overpower the gameplay.


I don't think it overpowers the gameplay either, it's just something I slightly prefer in the original game, and it's also what I was used to. Both are a lot of fun. I just bought the new one on 3DS for someone's birthday, so I'll see how that one is once they get it.


I liked playing as Kirby, even though they nerfed him quite a bit for Melee. I also played a lot as Roy and Mewtwo.

I swear, everyone else I know played as Roy/Marth! I remember playing with a group of people, and they all chose Roy/Marth, and they laughed when I chose Luigi. They weren't laughing after I won. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Bolsters on October 11, 2014, 01:43:04 AM
I swear, everyone else I know played as Roy/Marth! I remember playing with a group of people, and they all chose Roy/Marth, and they laughed when I chose Luigi. They weren't laughing after I won. :lol
They were both popular with people I knew aswell. Roy especially is just a very easy and fun character to play.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Randaran on October 11, 2014, 11:51:59 AM
Melee is the correct choice.

This, no doubt about it. Brawl is just... boring, even with friends.

My favorite in this game is Roy, though I also enjoy playing as Link. Even though all of my friends severely outclass me, I still have fun playing this one. Before, of course, we switch to Mario Kart and I become the object of their rage.  :lol
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 11, 2014, 12:46:14 PM
Brawl was a bit of a disappointment. Melee is still my favorite of the series, at least as far as console versions go (we'll see if the Wii U one tops it). Sure, Melee didn't have R.O.B. yet, but Fox and Mr. Game and Watch were awesome.
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Post by: Parama on October 11, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
I've always personally preferred Guitar Hero to Rock Band mostly on the basis of the looser game engine but both are great fun indeed, though I didn't tend to know people I could play the game with.
I don't see why Melee is so far superior to Brawl in everyone's eyes; both are fantastic games and Smash 4 for 3DS has been as well so far.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 11, 2014, 06:40:14 PM
23. Doom (PC: 1993)
Compared to today's more modern and 'sophisticated' FPS games, Doom is fairly bare-bones. There are no quick-time events and no stats to level up. No weapons to improve and no XP to gain. The only real choices you must make are will you gib this imp with a shotgun or a rocket launcher? You make your way through dozens of various implausibly laid out laboratory installations full of toxic waste and exploding barrels, you kill demons, collect weapons, find color-coded keys to open corresponding color-coded doors, patch yourself up with the mountains of medical kits that are just lying around, rinse and repeat. It's simple and it might sound repetitive, but it's not somehow. As you make your way down the hallways of the Phobos labs, you can hear demons grunting, groaning, oozing and roaring in the distance. Lights flicker inconsistently and outside, the blood-red skies of Phobos and Mars loom over all, a hint of the red slaughter to come.

And when the fighting finally comes, Doom shines. Despite being limited to a single axis of movement, the gunplay is smooth and frantic. Demons swarm you with rockets, bullets, teeth, and nails. Doors will open behind you, allowing demons to slip along your flank as you desperately try to fend off the monstrosities ahead. Your armament also helps to keep the simplistic gameplay from becoming dull. You have at your beck and call a pistol, shotgun, chainsaw, chaingun, rocket launcher, plasma rifle, and the impressively destructive BFG 9000 which can clear a room with a single shot. Each gun has its own strengths and weaknesses and the abundance or lack thereof of certain ammunition types can keep you from relying too much on the more powerful weapons. With energy cells being so rare, you tend to save those two shots of the BFG for when you really need it.

The level design is geared more towards what would be more fun to gun through than what would realistically make sense, with many labs containing huge pits full of radioactive waste surrounded by narrow walkways and an absolutely insane number of hidden doors triggered by equally hidden switches. But that's really the beauty of Doom. It doesn't give a shit. You're a marine. You're killing demons. On Mars. With a chainsaw.  Getting cracking soldier!

Having Doom on this list isn't just a nostalgia pick either. I can remember playing this with a friend of mine back when it came out, but I recently played through it again only a year or two ago and, I have to say, it really does hold up. It's still frantic, it's still frightening, and it's still a lot of fun. So ignore the lack of polygons or poorly acted cut scenes and dive into the toxic sludge-filled demonscape of Doom and get shooting. It's a classic that holds up incredibly well.

Doom is recommended for fans of pixelated blood-stains, exploding barrel aficionados, and folks who think that a bloody pentagram will really help to improve the feng shui of their Mars-based laboratory installations.

Note, for those of you who might be put off by the aged graphics, UI, and controls, Brutal Doom is a more than adequate substitute. Brutal Doom is what happens when you take a beloved and out-of-date game and mix it with bored nerds, the final result being a game with much improved graphics (actual 3D environments), sound, and controls (with mouse-look!) along with a bunch of other small modifications. In the end, despite these changes, Brutal Doom still carries that essential Doom feel. Is it Classic Doom? No, but it's a more than worthy update for anyone wanting to give this classic a shot or even for Doom veterans looking for something just a bit different.

If the thought of tackling a classic but aged shooter from 1993 fills you with anything but joy, then give Brutal Doom a try instead. I'm playing it now and it is excellent.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2014, 09:06:13 AM
As I said in the previous mention of Doom, this was the invention of fps.  Incredible game.  Many a night was wasted in Uni when I should've been studying or writing a paper.  Ah, the days when all-nighter's were as common as doing laundry.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 12, 2014, 06:07:54 PM
Not sure I'd go that far, but I'd certainly place it as one of the most important FPS's of all times, if not THE most important.

Anyways, since Doom generated an absolute of conversation, might as well just move on. :)

22. Bioshock (PC/X-Box: 2007)
This may likely be a bit of a controversial pick on this list. For as many fans that Bioshock has, it seems to have an equal number of detractors. Some find the gunplay to be a bit... clunky or that the story wanes near the end. I won't argue or even disagree with some of those complaints. In fact, they're largely right. Bioshock 2 and Bioshock: Infinite feature far better combat and maybe a better progression in their stories, but still I don't think that either match the greatness of the first Bioshock and that's for two reasons: Rapture and Andrew Ryan.

For those not in the know, Bioshock is a first person shooter where you take control of a survivor of a devastating plane crash who finds himself drawn into a war being fought in the underwater city of Rapture, a city designed by the mad and charismatic Andrew Ryan. The city, once a thriving abyssal metropolis, is now overrun with mad, gene-spliced killers who have permanently mutated themselves with drugs called ADAM (a substance used to grant superhuman powers). Little Sisters, mutated little girls, roam the dilapidated environs, searching for corpses to leech of ADAM and rumbling behind are their 'Big Daddy' protectors; silent, hulking monstrosities decked out in bulky diving suits and wielding massive weaponry.

First off, let's get this out of the way, Andrew Ryan is one of the reasons to play this game. Impeccably voiced by Armin Shimerman (Quark from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine for those of you who aren't complete nerds), Ryan's objectivist propaganda sermonizes, demonizes, and cajoles as you slink down the ruined hallways of his failed society. He exists always out of touch, on the edge of your existence, a God or maybe only a shadow, but still a force to be reckoned with even if he is little more than a voice on your radio.  When you finally do confront him, be prepared for one of the greatest scenes in videogame history. I won't reveal anything about it for any of the noobs that might be reading, but it is really well done.

Rapture is the other true star of the game. Like Doom, it oozes ambiance. Water seeps in through the cracked and decaying infrastructure, lights flicker intermittently, and the maniacal laughter of its surviving insane denizens echoes throughout its steel and glass chambers. You make your way from one part of Rapture to the next, driven only by a desire to escape and by the cryptic help of a mysterious benefactor named Atlas. Along the way, you'll collect weapons and gene-altering plasmids that will allow you to freeze enemies, telekinetically grab objects, set fires, and shoot streams of electricity, amongst other things. You can also hack vending machines, turn turrets against your enemies, modify your weapons, and engage in other rpg-lite activities.

In fact, Bioshock purports to be an RPG but it's really just an FPS with some additional frills (many of which are largely commonplace on FPS games nowadays). That's not really a bad thing, just a statement about what it really is. Bioshock makes a big deal about the choices you can make, but the choices are very incidental. The real way to enjoy Bioshock is to just immerse yourself in the atmosphere and history of Rapture and to enjoy the story.

So, divisive as it may be, Bioshock is a great game. Even a couple of years after finishing it, I still find myself thinking about certain sections of the game. The leaking abattoirs of Rapture still call out to me and will remain one of my favorite videogame settings. I would gladly play a Bioshock 3 even if it was just more Rapture to explore.

So, Bioshock gets a hearty and omega 3 fatty acid filled recommendation for anyone who thinks that the crushing depths of the ocean is the perfect place to open up a gun and ammo shop, for folks who find the phrase 'leaking like sieve' to be an aesthetically pleasing characteristic, and for those who've always wanted to read an Ayn Rand novel but have held off because it's written by Ayn Rand... and also 8,000 pages long.

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Post by: Genowyn on October 12, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
I thought that Bioshock was the rare FPS I could get into what with the addition of RPG elements.

I was wrong.

To add something to the Doom discussion: I loved Doom as a kid (yes, I was allowed to play Doom as a kid). What I loved even more than the basic game were these mods my dad had to convert it to Simpsons or Star Trek. I remember the invisible monsters were Barney in the Simpsons one and you would know they were around by the belching.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 12, 2014, 08:11:47 PM
What I loved even more than the basic game were these mods my dad had to convert it to Simpsons or Star Trek. I remember the invisible monsters were Barney in the Simpsons one and you would know they were around by the belching.

I had Simpsons, Tick, and Army of Darkness versions of Doom.  I still remember when you killed Barney you got the sond of him saying,"It fell in the toilet".
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Post by: Sacul on October 12, 2014, 08:41:03 PM
I don't think Bioshock is a controversial choice at all, since I've seen it receive praise everywhere and it's feature on many all-time top 100s, mostly on the 20-tier. But yeah, I absolutely love the trilogy. There's not a single bad game on it. Probably the sophomore is my favourite 'cause of it's emotional plot and ending, but the first one is still one of my fav games ever :metal . The aesthetics; the complex, deep story; plasmids! Seriously, I can't find a reason for not to love this game.
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Post by: Outcrier on October 12, 2014, 08:50:14 PM
22. Bioshock (PC/X-Box: 2007)
This may likely be a bit of a controversial pick on this list.

As far is i know, it's the most loved game of the trilogy  :huh:
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 12, 2014, 10:13:54 PM
Doom :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Randaran on October 13, 2014, 01:38:36 PM
For those who have not yet done so, would you kindly play Bioshock? sorry for this terrible pun

Seriously, it is one of the best FPSs I have ever played. I love the combat; plasmids, ammo types, and other features allow for a large variety of strategies. The underwater city is breathtaking, and I love how the story is revealed through those diaries. It really feels like a (formerly) living city. Nice pick.  :tup
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Post by: Obfuscation on October 13, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
Two thumbs up for Bioshock.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Retro Time! (pg. 12)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 13, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
I thought that Bioshock was the rare FPS I could get into what with the addition of RPG elements.

I was wrong.
Yeah, it's pretty much a straight up FPS. Have you tried System Shock 2, Deus Ex, Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas? Those are much more 'RPG first, FPS second' type games.

22. Bioshock (PC/X-Box: 2007)
This may likely be a bit of a controversial pick on this list.

As far is i know, it's the most loved game of the trilogy  :huh:
I dunno, but it sure seemed like there was a bit of a backlash after the game came out. Maybe it was just a really vocal minority complaining about the hype, but eh whatever. Bioshock is great. Yay ice cream!

21. The Legend of Zelda (NES: 1986)
Now we come to the game that birthed a near thirty year old franchise. The game that started it all. It's not my favorite in the series, but it is a very important entry and one that I must admit (albeit maybe a bit grudgingly) is still incredibly fun to this day. There is something about the simple and straightforward approach of Zelda 1 (I ain't typing out the full name over and over again so get used to seeing this abbreviation) that is missing from the more complex subsequent games. Zelda 1 boils down to: explore dungeons, burn bushes, bomb walls, find secrets, kill enemies, find the triforce pieces, get stronger, kill Ganon, and finally save the princess. It's a threadbare plot related to you only in the game's manual but it does its job and then it gets out of the way. Sometimes you'll encounter mad old hermits who speak only in cryptic, poorly translated clues, greedy merchants who think that their merchandise is still worth selling even in the monster-infested wilderness of Hyrule, but most of the interactions you'll have with the denizens of this game will involve the pointy end of your sword meeting the fleshy parts of their pixelated hides.

The world of Zelda is split between the sprawling, wilderness overworld and the dank, monster-infested dungeons. In each dungeon, you'll be tasked with cutting your way through rooms full of monsters, finding the treasure, and facing down with the inevitable boss at the end before you can finally collect the piece of the triforce and then move on. The treasures range from being useful in combat (the bow, boomerang, wand) to ones that will merely help you in getting along (the raft, ladder) and even a few that fill both purposes (candle, whistle).

Most of the enemies you will encounter can be dispatched with your trusty sword, but some are more susceptible to other weapons and a few are only vulnerable to a specific one. Some, like the armored darknuts, can only be attacked from the sides and rear due to their imposing shields. Others, like the spellcasting wizzrobes, appear and disappear around the screen, while shooting waves of magical energy. The meat of the game comes down to how you learn and deal with each type of enemy. Sometimes you'll be given the opportunity to slowly and surely assault a room of gathered enemies from a point of defensive strength. Other times, the door will shut behind and you'll be stuck in a room full of creatures until you defeat each and every last one. Finally, at the end of each dungeon, you'll face down a larger, meaner boss monster. Each boss usually has a trick to defeating them, but sometimes just stabbing it a bunch of times will do the trick. Honestly, most of the bosses are fairly mundane. It's usually the getting there that's more memorable.

Zelda 1 may not be my favorite in the series, but I'd be daft if I left it off my list. It's still very playable today, even with the simplistic graphics. The action is a lot faster and more furious than any of the sequels (sans maybe Adventure of Link) and the exploration aspect is maybe a bit stronger. It's still a lot of fun and, unlike a lot of other games, you can finish it in one dedicated afternoon. So you can get your Zelda fix out of the way before moving on to something else.

The Legend of Zelda comes with a pointed recommendation for any itinerant tomb robbers, wannabe world saviors, and those with a fetish for triangle-shaped objects (angles be sexy, yo).

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Bolsters on October 13, 2014, 09:23:12 PM
The old days when games didn't hold you hand at every turn and the internet didn't exist yet. :lol I used to just run around almost randomly in this one trying to discover everything there was to find - something I don't have the patience for these days. Far from being my favourite Zelda game aswell, but I have a soft nostalgic spot for it all the same.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 13, 2014, 10:33:09 PM
I remember in 4th grade when two of my friends, my home room teacher, and I would share maps we made of the second quest dungeons.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 13, 2014, 10:35:15 PM
Nowhere near to being my favorite Zelda, and I didn't get to play it until much later, but I still love it. It's where it all started, and it's still loads of fun to play.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: cramx3 on October 14, 2014, 07:23:10 AM
Bioshock was great, another thing about it too was that it was an early Xbox360 game and I remember playing the demo for it and being blown away by the visuals and the creepiness of the game.  It wasnt until a few years later that I actually bought it and played through.  I really liked it a lot. 
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 14, 2014, 07:26:41 AM
Love the original Zelda.

Up to that point I had only played a lot of shitty NES games. Like the ones which were just blatantly awful. I was young so I didn't know the difference, but Zelda was the first game to really blow my mind, get my respect and to show me what the NES was actually capable of.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on October 14, 2014, 08:00:30 AM
Still play Zelda 1 very often. About once every week or two. Cut it down to about an hour and a half of playtime to get through it. Absolute masterpiece.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 14, 2014, 08:59:12 PM
Still play Zelda 1 very often. About once every week or two. Cut it down to about an hour and a half of playtime to get through it. Absolute masterpiece.
Jesus  :lol

20. Unreal Tournament (PC: 1999)
Back in 1999, there was a bit of a war going on. Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 were released within days of each other. Quake 2 was generally considered to be the multiplayer FPS champion at the time and Quake 3 was looking to capitalize on that success by ditching the single-player campaign and focusing on the competitive online arena. Unreal Tournament was attempting to do the same thing. The two games had stylistic differences. Quake 3 focused on fast and frenetic gameplay, usually deathmatch, while UT was a bit slower paced but with a deeper well of options. There were more guns, more maps, more gametypes, and despite the plethora of options available, everything worked well. Really well. It is my (not so) expert opinion that UT handily won that round.

Even if you ignore the online, multiplayer capabilities (which I did, seeing as I only had dial-up at the time), UT comes with some fairly impressive bots to play against. You can even customize the bots to create a roster of opponents to face off against, each one with a unique skillset to vex and frag you with. Honestly, I very rarely ventured online with UT. Why would I need to, when I had enough challenge with the bots (and no latency)?

But even with great bots, a multiplayer FPS's success comes down to its gameplay and the maps. UT excels at both. There are multiple different gametypes that come standard with UT; deathmatch, team deathmatch, capture the flag, domination, last man standing, and assault. Many of these have become standard inclusions with multiplayer FPS games these days but they were new and exciting when UT came storming out of the gate.

As with Doom, UT doesn't sit on this list just because of nostalgic memories, it still plays really well today. I fired it up while compiling this list just to see if my memories would hold up against reality and I ended up wasting a few hours killing bots on Morpheus (one of the best deathmatch arenas ever). Yep, still good and very worthy of inclusion.

I give my UT my recommendation to anyone with a finicky frag-finger, flak fanatics, and any angry Quake fanboys still holding a grudge.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Bolsters on October 14, 2014, 09:10:25 PM
This is one of the few FPS games I have played, enjoyed (I'm not a fan of them in general), and was actually half-decent at, at least against bots and friends (never went online with it - no doubt I would have gotten my shit ruined there :lol). Loved that flak cannon.

It probably would have been playable on dial-up, too. I used to play the first Tribes game online on dial-up and it worked out well even with up to 40 people on the map. Games back then were designed with dial-up bandwidth in mind.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 14, 2014, 09:30:30 PM
Oh I played online with my sweet ass 28.8k modem occasionally but usually I'd get dumped mid-game or experience some severe latency issues. Much more headache than fun.

Not having access to high speed back then sucked. There were so many great online games that I couldn't really play all that much because of my crap connection: Dark Age of Camelot, Tribes 2, UT, Wheel of Time. Nowadays, I have high(er) speed internet but much less desire to play any competitive games online. I think CoD:MW was the last game I played an FPS online.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on October 14, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
The only Unreal i've ever played was the first one. Good memories.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Bolsters on October 14, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
Oh I played online with my sweet ass 28.8k modem occasionally but usually I'd get dumped mid-game or experience some severe latency issues. Much more headache than fun.

Not having access to high speed back then sucked. There were so many great online games that I couldn't really play all that much because of my crap connection: Dark Age of Camelot, Tribes 2, UT, Wheel of Time. Nowadays, I have high(er) speed internet but much less desire to play any competitive games online. I think CoD:MW was the last game I played an FPS online.
Ah, 28.8k. I had 56k. Big difference back then. :lol

I'm the same with online play now aswell, used to do a lot years ago but now I pretty much only care about the single player experience and don't bother with online multiplayer.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 15, 2014, 12:02:50 AM
Why was it 56k instead of 57.6k since that would actually/obviously be double 28.8k?
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Post by: Bolsters on October 15, 2014, 12:16:42 AM
Why was it 56k instead of 57.6k since that would actually/obviously be double 28.8k?
Why was it 28.8k in the first place? No idea. :lol Though 56 kilobits was probably just the most they could get out of that technology, because it never went any higher than that.
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Post by: ariich on October 15, 2014, 02:12:45 AM
I never owned Unreal Tournament, but used to play it as a teenager at LAN parties. It was a lot of fun. :lol
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 16, 2014, 10:40:10 PM
19. Thief: The Dark Project (PC: 1998)
Thief: The Dark Project is an FPS game from 1999. FPS, in this instance, stands for First Person Stealth game. In Thief, your goal is not to run around and kill everything in sight, it's to be as stealthy as possible, to accomplish your goals with a minimum of casualties.

You play as a thief (duh) named Garrett, who is a bit of an independent operator in the steampunkish environment of the City. The City is a typical corrupt metropolis, run by sleazy nobles, cutthroat guildmasters, religious fanatics, and mysterious pagans. You will steal from all them. The City is a bit of a mix between an industrial Dickensian nightmare and renaissance Italy. Clattering machines provide power to some sectors of the City while others rely on the old tried-and-true flame and tallow. For the breaking-and-entering, Garrett has at his disposal a wide variety of tools including a blackjack (for knocking out the unawares), a sword (for when things go wrong), lockpicks, gas mines, explosive mines, arrows, rope arrows, noise-maker arrows, gas arrows, and explosive arrows.

You'd think a game where you break into people's houses and steal their belongings would get old, but Thief manages to keep things interesting. Each mission, gives you several objectives to complete, like not killing anyone, steal a certain amount of loot, that sort of thing. On the easiest settings, the objectives are relatively simple. As you increase the difficulty, the objectives get more elaborate. You might have to steal more loot and you might have to escape after you've accomplished your objectives. This gives the game a lot of replay value.

Additionally, Thief boasts some incredibly expansive levels with no loading screens to interrupt the gameplay except for at the beginning of each level. The 3D architecture and textures are pretty damn impressive for a game made in 1998 and the use of light and shadows as a mechanic was revolutionary. It still compares favorably today. The only aspect of the game that looks dated are the character models. They're incredibly blocky, with muddy textures and they didn't look all that good back then, so they look even worse now.

The sound design is pretty stellar too. There's very little music, just ambient noise, but that's an important part of the game. Listening to the conversations of drunken guards or tracing the path of a servant by their footsteps is incredibly important and music would only interfere with that. Different surfaces make different sounds, so running across a tile floor will make more noise than running across a carpet. This has become rather standard issue with stealth games these days, but when Thief did it, it was new.

Thief also boasts a variety of different mission types to keep things interesting. While most do boil down to 'sneak into this place and steal this item,' the places you sneak into are all different. In one, you might be tasked with breaking into an undead-filled tomb to snatch some priceless trinket, in another you have to shadow two would-be assassins back to their employer so that you can find out who they work for, and in another you must break into an eccentric noble's mansion to steal his sword and the mansion boasts some brain-defying architectural choices. All throughout it, the character of Garrett keeps a decidedly cynical edge to his voice as he narrates on his goals and the targets of his larceny.

Thief may be a bit rough around the edges for modern gamers, but for anyone with a liking for stealth games, here's where most of it started. The setting of Thief is unique enough to keep things from becoming dull, but it's in the variety of missions and exemplary way in which they're all laid out that makes the game a classic.

I recommend Thief: The Dark Project for any first-story men that wishes to upgrade to the second-story, folks for whom the term 'blackjack' is not one to be uttered only at a casino, and drunken taffers.

Note, for those of you interested in this game, try and track down Thief Gold. It includes two extra missions that expands upon the original's story. The extra missions are pretty damn fun too and well worth it.

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Post by: Lynxo on October 17, 2014, 05:15:53 AM
Awesome game, I used to play the heck out of the demo back in the day. I remember thinking that the stealth aspect in Thief was so much better than in more commercial titles like Metal Gear Solid or Splinter Cell.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 19, 2014, 10:22:06 PM
Awesome game, I used to play the heck out of the demo back in the day. I remember thinking that the stealth aspect in Thief was so much better than in more commercial titles like Metal Gear Solid or Splinter Cell.
I haven't played Splinter Cell, but I'd agree that the stealth in Thief is much, much better than that in MGS. But then again, MGS never felt like a straight up stealth game to me, but more as an action game with some stealth elements.

One thing I don't think I quite got across in my write up is how much I love the lore of Thief. Whether it's conveyed via notes, overheard conversations or by the short snippets of text before each mission, you really get a feel for the world, for the various organizations and individuals inhabiting it

18. Counterstrike (PC: 1999)
Originally, Counterstrike was released as a fan-made mod for Half-Life. It proved so successful and so popular that, since its release, it has seen multiple iterations of the same game. In fact, the Counterstrike: Source release is probably my favorite version of the game but, aside from the improved graphics, it's incredibly similar to the original. So, the original gets the spot on the list because of how much time I've spent with it. Unfair? Maybe. Shut up. This is my list and I can put Counterstrike: Source in the corner if I so please.

Anyways, Counterstrike is a multiplayer first-person shooter where players take the role of either a terrorist or counter-terrorist.... dude.  Guy.  Whatever. Each team has different objectives depending upon the map. Sometimes the terrorists must successfully plant a bomb while the counter-terrorist forces attempt to either stop them or defuse the bomb before it explodes. On other maps, the terrorist team must protect a group of hostages while the counter-terrorist forces attempt to save and extract them.

Unlike other FPS games, in Counterstrike your avatar is the equivalent of an old balloon, filled with blood and stretched to the breaking point. A single bullet can and will kill you. 
Once you eventually die, you have to wait until the current round ends and a new one begins so that usually means players take a slower, more cautious approach. Unless you're me, then you just run around and throw your body at the first bullets you see.  Yes, I am that awesome. At the beginning of each round, the players get an allotment of money, the amount depending upon their performances in the previous rounds, with which they can buy guns, grenades, and other gear. It's very simple, very easy to get started, but difficult to master.

For me, Counterstrike was a LAN party staple for many, many years. Actually, it still is. On the very rare occasion when someone hosts a LAN party, Counterstrike invariably rears its balaclava-clad head sometime during the evening. Dissenting naysayers usually suggest something newer, something more modern, but Counterstrike is not so easily dissuaded and, in the end, files are installed, settings are fiddled with, and old faithful is booted up. The games continue until the players get fed up and suggest a new game to play, which is usually at about 3 in the morning when the pizza is cold, the Mountain Dew is warm and the only snack foods left are stale pretzels and dorito crumbs.

Counterstrike was (is!) a great game and a testament to how a game doesn't need to be complex or even fast paced to be super fun. Don't go to Counterstrike if you're looking for a great single-player experience. While newer versions of the game include bots, it's just not the same. Personally, I can't even enjoy playing it online as so much of the fun I've had with this game was about just hanging out with friends and being crammed into a basement full of computers and nerds, shouting out obscenities into the wee hours of the morning.

So, go enjoy a round of Counterstrike with your best friends. While the original is my 'favorite' version, those new to the game would be best off with one of the more recent releases of which I am aware that there many. Whatever your choice, Counterstrike gets a hearty recommendation for those who enjoy dorito-stains on their W, A, S, D keys, amateur bomb defusers, and people who love to hear the words 'Hostage down!' over and over and over again.

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Post by: ariich on October 20, 2014, 02:51:52 AM
Oh man, another game I never owned but played at LAN parties.

Reliving much of my teenage years through this list!
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on October 20, 2014, 06:34:42 AM
I remember when I was like 13, 14 years old, my buddies and I used to muster up all the change we could to get down to the internet cafe and play Counterstrike online.  It was like $4 a half hour or something :lol 

ahhhhhh, nostalgia ultra.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 20, 2014, 06:43:55 AM
CS was really my first PC online shooter game.  That was before xbox live and whatnot so it was so much fun to be able to play a game like that with other people.  That and TF, but while I think TF is more fun now, back then, it was all CS for me.
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Post by: Lynxo on October 20, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Aw yeah, liking your list so far! Half-Life and just about all its mods are just gold! I'm proud to say I played multiplayer shooters before they became cool. :lol
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 20, 2014, 10:33:15 PM
Glad to see my list is evoking some nostalgic feelings. My job is done. :)

Now, here's some nostalgia...

17. Super Mario World (SNES: 1990)
So, let's take a step away from the rather long string of FPS games that have so far polluted this list and head off to another genre. It's a genre that, I'm sorry to say, is not well represented in my list, but what representation it has is simply marvelous. That's right, the genre in question is the age old, tried and true platformer and Super Mario World is, in my opinion, in a class by itself.

I love all of the Mario games up to SMW by varying degrees, but SMW takes all that came before it and refined it to pure excellence. It might not be the hardest Mario game, in fact, if you're just playing straight through it's relatively easy, but the game world is packed with secret levels some that are ridiculously hard to find if you don't know what you're looking for.

Like the preceding game in the series (Super Mario Brothers 3 for the noobs out there) in Super Mario World progression in the game is not especially linear. You have an overworld map with which you can tackle missions in different orders or even skip some altogether if you wish. The overworld is divided up into different lands, each with their own theme and all brimming with cutesy humor (Donut Plains, Butter Bridge, Chocolate Island, etc.). Super Mario World does not take itself very seriously it is all the better for it.

Like the previous Mario games, each level usually has it's own trick, whether it's an underwater level or one where the screen slowly pans to the right giving you less time to formulate your actions and forcing you to act quicker than you might want. Within each level you will get access to a variety of different powers and abilities. The mushroom, star, and fire flower are back, but you can also get the cape which grants you the ability to fly and perform a deadly spin attack. Also, in the game you gain the friendship of the ever-hungry dinosaur Yoshi, a character who would become a part of the Mario franchise forever after.

This is a pretty great game and, unlike other platformers, it's not ridiculously, annoyingly hard. You can finish it in a couple of dedicated hours, unless you want to go for that 100% completion trophy (I've only ever gotten to 96%...) then you're looking at some truly, brutally difficult levels. The various SPECIAL and Star Road levels will make you beat your face against the wall. So there's a little bit of something for everyone here.

I still occasionally pull this game out to play every so often and the shiny, cartoony graphics hold up remarkably well even in this age of anti-aliasing, bump mapping, and direct x 10 enhanced graphics. The enemies are varied, the powers are fun, the difficulty is just right, and there's always something more to do, even when you finally beat the game.

Super Mario World gets a block-breaking recommendation for any addled mushroom addicts, anyone looking for a game where Yoshi isn't annoying, and people who have always dreamed of plains of donuts and bridges of butter.

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Post by: Bolsters on October 20, 2014, 10:47:00 PM
An undeniable classic. :tup Not only one of my favourite Mario games, but one of my all time favourite games aswell.

Also, the number on the file list isn't a percentage, it's the number of unique level goals you've run Mario through, and guess what? There's 96 of them. So you did 100% the game! :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 20, 2014, 10:50:42 PM
Ah, finally a game I can get excited about! :tup (all FPS games are the same boring crap to me)

My favourite Mario game, and one of my favourites games of all time too, because there's so much in it, with the powerups and alternate level endings and hidden levels.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 20, 2014, 11:18:20 PM
Stop killing me with nostalgia.

Seriously, this game is a true masterpiece, even outside of platformers. I can go back to it and it never gets old. Even with that said, it's still not my favorite Mario game. :biggrin:
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Post by: Outcrier on October 21, 2014, 04:24:29 AM
Still play this masterpiece through emulators sometimes :tup
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Post by: Lynxo on October 21, 2014, 04:50:45 AM
Ah, finally a game I can get excited about! :tup (all FPS games are the same boring crap to me)

My favourite Mario game, and one of my favourites games of all time too, because there's so much in it, with the powerups and alternate level endings and hidden levels.
The funny thing about that is that Shigeru Miyamoto has said that he felt that the game development were rushed and many levels that he wanted in the game had to be cut. It is NOT AT ALL noticeable in the game itself, it's a timeless classic. :tup
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 21, 2014, 05:04:16 AM
Ah, finally a game I can get excited about! :tup (all FPS games are the same boring crap to me)

My favourite Mario game, and one of my favourites games of all time too, because there's so much in it, with the powerups and alternate level endings and hidden levels.
The funny thing about that is that Shigeru Miyamoto has said that he felt that the game development were rushed and many levels that he wanted in the game had to be cut. It is NOT AT ALL noticeable in the game itself, it's a timeless classic. :tup

I never knew that, and I agree it's not noticeable at all. The final game is big and ambitious compared to previous Mario games, so I can only imagine what they originally had planned.
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Post by: ariich on October 21, 2014, 06:49:11 AM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!

Best Mario game.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 21, 2014, 07:53:46 AM
An undeniable classic. :tup Not only one of my favourite Mario games, but one of my all time favourite games aswell.

Also, the number on the file list isn't a percentage, it's the number of unique level goals you've run Mario through, and guess what? There's 96 of them. So you did 100% the game! :lol
Really? Goddamnit agonizing about what I'd missed in the game for years and I'd completed it oh so long ago.

Damn you Mario!
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Post by: Zydar on October 21, 2014, 07:54:42 AM
Pretty much the best Mario game, yes.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 21, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
Didnt own a SNES so ive only played that mario at friends houses and it never held a spot in my heart like Mario 3 and Mario 64... to me its a toss up between those two as for the best.
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 21, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
The final game is big and ambitious compared to previous Mario games

I think SMB3 is about even with it or slightly better even.


SMW advantages:

1. More total levels.

2. Cape is better than raccoon (though Tanooki is just about even since the statue ability helps you kill additional enemies the cape can't like Roto Discs.)

3. Entire secret worlds like Star Road and Special.

4. Switch palaces' effect on gameplay.

5. Ability to replay levels.

6. Ability to revisit cleared worlds.

7. Stars making map screen transit a snap.


SMB3 advantages:

1. Powerups. Both games have mushroom, fire flower, and star. Beyond that, SMW only has the cape and that awkward P balloon. SMB3 has leaf, tanooki, P wing, frog, and hammer.

2. Bonus gimmicks. SMW is limited to the switch palaces, basically two versions of tic tac toe (the one you access after getting 100 stars at those end-of-level posts and the crappier one where you get five chances to hit coin blocks to try to get three "O"s in a row, and the one-off "Top Secret" powerup stash in Donut Plains. SMB3 has the (virtually unwinnable) thing where you line up the three sections of a picture, the memory game with flipping the cards, Hammer Brother showdowns, mushroom houses, the weird mushroom houses for when you fulfill coin quotas in selected stages and get rewarded with either a P wing or (ugh) anchor, and the coin ships.

3. Item inventory. Yeah yeah, the item window in SMW is awesome but damn sure not enough to compete with the ability to have not only every item in the game at your disposal but multiples of them as well since you could have as many as 28 items in your stash.


I tried to not let my SMB3 bias cloud my analysis here so hopefully I didn't miss anything major. I know SMW has slightly better control, graphics, and audio, but these are all things that have improved in every new installment in the series so it'd have to be a huge jump in any of these factors in order for it to constitute a real advantage.

Lastly, I realize I listed 7 advantages for SMW and only 3 for SMB3. This is a case of quality trumping quantity. More levels is definitely a good thing when you're talking about a good game but, unless you actually count them yourself or read the comparison somewhere, you really don't notice the difference. Yoshi's Island only has 5 levels (counting the castle) and Star Road/Special basically combine to be the 8th world (13 total levels is closer to one world than two) whereas SMB3 already has 8 worlds and they all are very full from the 2nd one forward.

The Cape thing is barely an advantage since there are three different flight powerups in SMB3. Points 5, 6, and 7 are all true but aren't nearly as big of a gameplay enhancement as any of SMB3's advantages.
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Post by: Randaran on October 21, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
I do not like this one quite as much as SMB3, but it is still a great game. I still consider Newer to be the best 2D Mario game, though.  :biggrin:
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 21, 2014, 01:04:40 PM
As in the "New Super Mario" line of games?
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Post by: Randaran on October 21, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
No, as in Newer Super Mario Bros Wii. It is not an official game, but is just as good.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 21, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
That was good, but something about the way Mario controls in that one just isn't as satisfying as in Mario World. And the level design in Mario World is nearly untouchable.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 21, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
The final game is big and ambitious compared to previous Mario games

I think SMB3 is about even with it or slightly better even.

SMB3 is also an excellent game, and technically the best of the NES era (it's hard to compare to the iconicness of the original), but for me SMW is the perfect Mario game.
You're right on your comparison, but I never liked a lot of the suit powerups all that much aside from the raccoon, the bonus levels aren't important to me, and SMW didn't feel like it needed the inventory as much with how it played. The combo of cape + Yoshi was hella fun, and I just generally preferred the levels, music, graphics and atmosphere. It had some levels much more big and complex than the NES Marios were capable of, and exploring the levels for the alternate paths was one of the big pluses for me.

That's not to put down SMB3 at all, I'm just splitting hairs on why I prefer SMW. I played through SMB3 again not too long ago, and it doesn't surprise me that many people consider it the best. It wouldn't surprise me for any Mario game to be considered the best. But for the elements I like the most in platforming, SMW is the better fit for me. :tup

And now I feel like replaying SMW/SMW2.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 21, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
It wouldn't surprise me for any Mario game to be considered the best.
Mario is Missing? :P
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 21, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
It wouldn't surprise me for any Mario game to be considered the best.
Mario is Missing? :P

I'd never even heard of that until just now. :lol
But I meant the main Mario series, not any game that has Mario in it. Mario's been in so many damn games, I'm sure there are a few clunkers along the way. :lol
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Post by: Bolsters on October 21, 2014, 09:37:04 PM
I'd never even heard of that until just now. :lol
Really? I thought you'd know all of them.

I remember renting Mario is Missing back in the early/mid 90's from the video store and being incredibly disappointed with it, because I had no idea what kind of game it actually was until I got it home.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 21, 2014, 10:09:10 PM
The final game is big and ambitious compared to previous Mario games

I think SMB3 is about even with it or slightly better even.

SMB3 is also an excellent game, and technically the best of the NES era (it's hard to compare to the iconicness of the original), but for me SMW is the perfect Mario game.
You're right on your comparison, but I never liked a lot of the suit powerups all that much aside from the raccoon, the bonus levels aren't important to me, and SMW didn't feel like it needed the inventory as much with how it played. The combo of cape + Yoshi was hella fun, and I just generally preferred the levels, music, graphics and atmosphere. It had some levels much more big and complex than the NES Marios were capable of, and exploring the levels for the alternate paths was one of the big pluses for me.

That's not to put down SMB3 at all, I'm just splitting hairs on why I prefer SMW. I played through SMB3 again not too long ago, and it doesn't surprise me that many people consider it the best. It wouldn't surprise me for any Mario game to be considered the best. But for the elements I like the most in platforming, SMW is the better fit for me. :tup
Yep, totally agree. SMB3 is a great game but, to me, it's definitely a quantity over quality game. Lots of powerups, lots of levels, lots of worlds. SMW is just super refined and boiled down to pure, Mario excellence.

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And now I feel like replaying SMW/SMW2.
Do it!

I'd never even heard of that until just now. :lol
Really? I thought you'd know all of them.

I remember renting Mario is Missing back in the early/mid 90's from the video store and being incredibly disappointed with it, because I had no idea what kind of game it actually was until I got it home.
Oh god yes, Mario is Missing was awful. I remember being really surprised that a new Mario game was out and then, upon playing it at a friend's house, I wasn't so surprised anymore, I was just disappointed.  :lol

Anyways, on with the list.

16. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (PC: 2002)
For the longest time, I hated this game. I felt it was inferior to its sequel, Oblivion. Oblivion had better combat and an actual fast-travel option. But, despite my declaration, I still found myself returning to the ash-covered environs of Morrowind over and over again. What was calling me back? It certainly wasn't the clunky combat or the fucking cliff racers, so what was it?

It was Vvardenfell, the island on which Morrowind takes place. Oblivion is set in the relatively typical fantasy land of Cyrodiil, which means lots of verdant, pastoral fields, expansive lakes, bustling towns, and lush forests. It's beautiful to look at, even pretty to explore, but ultimately it's a bit passé, a bit... hollow. Morrowind, on the other hand, takes place on the island of Vvardenfell, a realm of bubbling bogs, towering mushrooms, ash storms, clockwork dwarven ruins, and the alien architecture of the dark elves which all looks like its been cut and shaped from the hide of some massive, continent-sized beetle. It's utterly unlike anything else in a fantasy game.

The environment isn't the only notable aspect of the setting. In Vvardenfell, most of the citizens will treat you like the foreign mainlander that you are, with sneers of derision, condescension, and even outright contempt. The politics and beliefs of the characters of Morrowind play an important part in the game, far more important than anything in Oblivion or maybe even Skyrim. This gives the game world an actual personality, as you'll encounter tribal dark elves that want nothing to do with outlanders, Hlaalu slavers, ruthless Morag Tong assassins, and the casually racist Ordinator guards. This gray morality infuses even the non-dark elf groups and organizations. Even the 'best' of them have seedy underbellies that make it hard to root for one group over another. The dark elves may be a brutal, war-like people, but the Empire of Tamriel is hardly any better when you get right down to it.   

And it's not just the setting that brought me back. Morrowind has probably the most interesting plot and villain of any of the Elder Scrolls games. Most of the time, the main plots in the Elder Scrolls games are incidental, they exist merely to give you a setting to explore and loot, but in Morrowind it's actually kind of interesting. The plot concerns various prophecies and your place in them, an apocalyptic cult known as The Sixth House, and its sinister God, Dagoth Ur. It's all fairly epic stuff, as Elder Scrolls games, usually are, but it's well handled and involves a variety of different and unique quests.

But, even the best of Elder Scrolls games comes down to how much shit there is to do. And with Morrowind, there is a lot. You can customize your character in a multitude of ways (though the leveling system in Morrowind is fucking bonkers stupid at times). You can become a member of any of the three guilds, but unlike Oblivion or Skyrim, you can't become a master of the mage's guild with, say, only the dimmest of understanding of magic. You actually have to be a mage! The horror, the horror! You can even join up with one of three Noble Houses amongst a few other organizations. I'm actually not really sure about how much there is to do, because there is a lot of stuff in this game and despite how often I've played this game, I've only scratched the surface. Each organization has its own sprawling quest lines.

If joining a House or a Guild isn't to your style, you can just hoof it and explore the world. There are countless ruins, caves, temples, tombs, sewers, mines, and other places to discover and explore, some huge and sprawling and others only a few rooms in size. In these places, you'll encounter the bizarre fauna of Vvardenfell, undead guardians, vampires, Sixth House cultists, demonic daedra, and even groups of common bandits. You can take them head on, with sword and shield, shoot them from a distance with a bow, stealthily eviscerate them, or even blow them all up with magic. The choice is yours.

So, if you've played either Oblivion or Skyrim and thought they were the bee's knees, then give Morrowind a try. It may not be as polished, but it does an excellent job of transporting you to a dark and alien world full of magic, cliff racers, prophecies, more cliff racers, and cults.  Oh, did I mention cliff racers too? Seriously, there're a lot of cliff racers in this game.

Morrowind comes with a full 90 points in the Recommendation skill for those who are prophesized to actually finish an Elder Scrolls game, fans of aerial racers that live on cliffs, and people that proudly announce their character class when you talk to them.

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Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 21, 2014, 10:57:46 PM
I love Morrowwind, as I do the entire Elder Scrolls.  Boots of Blinding speed are a must pick up item.
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Post by: ariich on October 22, 2014, 02:20:56 AM
Nice, I haven't played Morrowind yet but I do have it on Steam. Oblivion and Skyrim are great though, so I'm looking forward to going back to that one.
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Post by: Sacul on October 24, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
Hey guys, I'm next on the list, but since I'll very busy next month, I don't think I'll be able to start and keep up with my list. I think jingle.boy will still be busy with his Led Zeppelin discog thread, won't he?
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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 24, 2014, 06:59:58 PM
Out of all the elder scrolls games, I played morrowind the most and possibly even enjoyed it the most. Hours upon hours upon hours just sitting there playing that game. Man
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
Hey guys, I'm next on the list, but since I'll very busy next month, I don't think I'll be able to start and keep up with my list. I think jingle.boy will still be busy with his Led Zeppelin discog thread, won't he?

Yeah, as good of an idea this sounded like at the time, I am nowhere near ready to do the writeups any justice.  I've got my list, but haven't done anything else.  Maybe in the new year for me, so if someone else is ready to go after the Crimson King, go for it.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 24, 2014, 09:51:27 PM
15. Final Fantasy VI (SNES: 1994)
I remember the very first time I heard about Final Fantasy VI. My friends had printed out this massive tome of paper from the depths of the then nascent interwebs. This tome made up of loose sheaves of thin copy paper was nothing more than an incredibly comprehensive guide and walkthrough for Final Fantasy VI. The game was a couple of years old at this point and not very easy to find. My friends were obsessed with discovering every hidden little secret, every item, every esper, and every character within the game. Listening to them, day after day, rattle off names, locations, and spells instilled in me a great desire to find and play this game. I knew absolutely nothing about this game, but I needed to have it. Eventually, after several months, my parents and I tracked down a copy of the game at one of the local Funcoland locations. Cars were started, miles were driven, money was paid, and I finally held in my hands the grey little box that contained all those names, spells, espers, and secrets that I had heard so much about. This is the story of how I spent that entire summer in front of a television set.

With that little bit of nostalgia out of the way, Final Fantasy VI is the sixth installment of the long, long, long running Japanese role-playing game series. Like most of the others in the series, FFVI features a massive world to explore, a sprawling cast of characters each of which is unique, the tried-and-true ATB battle system, random encounters, dungeons, towns, monsters to fight, items to find, magic to learn, and a great story to experience. What makes FFVI such a unique entry in the series is how the story takes such a surprising turn halfway through. The first half of the game is a typical Final Fantasy game, where you progress along a fairly linear path, following plot points like crumbs of bread in a maze. The world gradually opens up as you explore more and more of it, but the second half of the game is an almost open world RPG. You have vague directions on what to do, but the details are left up to you. Quests can be accomplished in almost any order, or skipped entirely. Characters can be rediscovered or ignored completely, if you wish. And there are lots and lots of secrets hiding out in the world, many of which are very, very hard to find unless you know exactly what you're looking for. I much prefer the more structured first half of the game, but I give FFVI a lot of credit for taking such a bold step with its storytelling.

I'm not going to get into any specifics with regards to characters, mostly because there're so many of them in this game and pretty much all of them are great, but I do want to mention just one in particular. When the topic of Final Fantasy villains comes up, normally its Sephiroth from FFVII that dominates the conversation, however, the primary antagonist of FFVI, Kefka, was one of my favorite villains for a long, long time. Not only does he get some of the coolest, quirkiest music in the game, he gets an awesome, totally 16-bit laugh too. The first half of the game portrays him as an almost inept, bumbling, psychotic force of nature, always ready and willing to fuck shit up, but hard to take very seriously.

Occasionally, I debate with myself whether I like FFVI or FFIV best out of the series. I love IV, don't get me wrong, but VI does so much right and offers a fairly unprecedented level of choice not normally seen in Final Fantasy games (or at least, not in the ones I've played). So, in the end, Final Fantasy VI gets the recommendation over Final Fantasy IV for any erstwhile magicite collectors, Ultros fanboys, and Locke and Celes shippers.

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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 24, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
One of the best RPG's there is. :hefdaddy A great SNES game in its already amazing catalog.
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Post by: Sacul on October 25, 2014, 07:28:45 AM
I have meant to play this game for a long, long time. But I seriously can't D:
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Post by: black_biff_stadler on October 25, 2014, 01:28:48 PM
No hands, huh?
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Post by: Sacul on October 25, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
No, I can use my controls fairly well with my feet; but the problem is that my sound card is broken, and 'cause the PC is kind of old, I'll just buy a new one any time soon.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on October 25, 2014, 04:11:38 PM
Love VI  :hefdaddy

If I had played it at the time of its release, it would probably be my favorite FF, but that spot will always belong to VII. Ended up really getting into VI around 2001 and loved every minute of it.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 27, 2014, 09:06:55 PM
Oops, well, I was going to do the update last night, but that didn't seem to happen so... heay look over there, an update!

14. Half-Life 2 (PC: 2004)
Half-Life 2 is the mega-successful sequel to the mega-successful original Half-Life. Like in the original, you play as the forever 'caught in the wrong place at the wrong time' scientist and bearded legend, Gordon Freedom. Instead of the rundown and overrun environs of the Black Mesa Research Facility, this time you're transported by the mysterious G-Man to the totalitarian and dystopian near future Earth, one conquered by a race of aliens known only as the Combine. What little of the Earth's surface that isn't overrun by horrid alien life is devoted instead to the 1984-esque Combine-run cities replete with propaganda-spewing loudspeakers, security-laden check points, and lots and lots of blue jumpsuits.

One of the best things about Half-Life 2 is that none of the above is ever infodumped to the player in some lengthy, cinematic expository scene. It's all stuff you have to glean from the environment, from the scattered comments of the various NPC's, to the very occasional moments when someone will directly address the player. This approach works incredibly well. For those gamers more able to piece together the clues scattered around the world, there's an incredible sense of accomplishment when you finally feel as if you've cracked the mystery of the backstory. For those more like myself, those comments and details that hint at what happened in the years between Half-Life and Half-Life 2 that might explain just how the world ended up as shitty as it is keep you salivating for an overt explanation that never comes.

But, enough about the story stuff. It's a game, not a novel, what really matters is the gameplay, right? Both Half-Life and Half-Life 2 represent not revolutionary gameplay but a honing and tightening of every gear, every wheel, and every widget that makes an FPS enjoyable. It plays just like every other FPS that existed before Call of Duty became a thing, it just plays really, really well. Now, Half-Life 2 does introduce a few more inspired moments of gameplay beyond the typical run-and-gun. These come in the forms of two, massive levels composed almost entirely of vehicular driving and the Gravity Gun. The vehicles sections are rather good and help break up the monotony. I really, really like the airboat section in Water Hazard, but the car section goes on a bit too long and doesn't really do anything new. It's still fun, but it gets a bit plodding after a while.

The Gravity Gun, on the other hand, is one of the greatest weapons ever invented for an FPS. It's a simple concept, it's a gun that lets you manipulate the physics effects in the game to a greater degree than what you would normally be able to. This allows you to fling saw blades, garbage cans, and other detritus at your enemies or even pick up a big piece of scrap and use it as a rudimentary shield. The Gravity Gun also makes one of the best levels in the game possible. What level could I be talking about? Any astute Half-Life 2 fanboy would know immediately which one I mean. Ravenholm.

Ravenholm is an abandoned city overrun by alien zombies. It's full of deadly traps, nasty environmental hazards, and it's extremely light on the ammo. This means that you're going to spend the majority of the level using your Gravity Gun to fling washing machines and motors at angry headcrab zombies while you desperately try to conserve what little ammo you have. It's brilliant in execution as it truly manages to accentuate just how limited your resources are. Add to that the groans, screams, and cries of the zombies inhabiting Ravenholm that pierce the night sky as the inexorably try to hunt you down before you manage to escape. It's tense stuff and it's probably one of the greatest FPS levels ever created.

So, for Ravenholm and the Gravity Gun, I give Half-Life 2 a physics-defying recommendation for those who were wondering just what happened to that security guard in Half-Life 1, fans of horned rimmed glasses and dorky beards, and anyone who likes to thoroughly poop themselves (Ravenholm is scary... don't judge me).

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Post by: Outcrier on October 27, 2014, 10:20:33 PM
Played this classic again some months ago, it was a blast just like the old times  :tup
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Post by: Lynxo on October 28, 2014, 01:11:37 AM
Omg, two absolute classics! I recently bought The Orange Pack for the PS3, I'm definitly gonna do a playthrough of HL2. :tup It's absolutely insane how they managed to follow up one of my favorite games of all time with yet another classic!
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Post by: Chino on October 28, 2014, 06:47:42 AM
I still can't believe we haven't seen a HL3.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ReaperKK on October 28, 2014, 06:48:47 AM
Such a great list, reliving a lot of great games. I remember playing CS through beta starting at beta 5, I remember spending middle school nights with my new cable internet playing dust and nuke.

I only played BioShock 1 last year after playing Infinite. I can't believe I missed out this game when it was released.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 28, 2014, 10:19:21 PM
Such a great list, reliving a lot of great games. I remember playing CS through beta starting at beta 5, I remember spending middle school nights with my new cable internet playing dust and nuke.

I only played BioShock 1 last year after playing Infinite. I can't believe I missed out this game when it was released.
Thanks. Glad to see you're enjoying. :)

13. Chrono Trigger (SNES: 1995)
Chrono Trigger is one of those games that regularly appears on these sorts of lists. The words 'great,' 'masterpiece,' and 'defining' are typically used to describe it. With all of this hype surrounding it, it would not be unwarranted to discover that Chrono Trigger does not live up to the lofty praises a generation of nerds have continually heaped upon it. Thankfully, Chrono Trigger does not collapse beneath the weight, nay it does not even stumble.

For one unversed in the legacy of Chrono Trigger, its name should at least hint at the fact that there is a time-travel element in the game's story. Chrono Trigger's epic story stretches from the distant annals of a dinosaur-ruled past to the forlorn and ruined wastes of a post-apocalyptic future (why is the future always so shitty?). Each time period has it's own story and characters and is connected to the others by the overarching story with the characters, villains, and twists unfolding across a millennia. It's incredibly well done and it never seems to get stale. Just as one time period starts to get a little boring, you are whisked off to a new one with new characters, plots, and enemies awaiting you. I won't get too in depth about the story, mostly because it's sprawling and epic and awesome in all the right ways, but I will give a very brief synopsis. You play Chrono a young boy in a pseudo-steampunk era kingdom and you and your friends accidentally get thrown back in time to the middle ages. The cast of characters you encounter run the gamut from spoiled princess, techy nerd girl, robot, frog knight, emo mage, and cavegirl. If that rundown doesn't make you want to play, then frankly, I don't know what will.

Like many other JRPG's from the SNES era, Chrono Trigger features a turn based battle system. You issue orders to Chrono and the current members of your party and each character has different strengths and access to different abilities. Unlike other JRPG's (mainly the Final Fantasy series) there are no annoying random encounters. Most enemies are clearly visible before you encounter them and some you can skip past if you're careful or lucky enough. The battles involve a bit more tactical acumen than is normal for most turn based JRPG's. Not only do you have to manage resources, but characters and enemies will gradually reposition themselves during the battles, making hitting them with area of effect attacks more difficult or even easier sometimes. During battles characters can also combine their abilities together to create one, devastating combo. This means that sometimes it might be better to hold off on an attack until you can synch several characters together at once. It's a very simple system, but it's surprising how rewarding it can be.

Chrono Trigger is probably my favorite JRPG of all time which is made all the more impressive that it's time travel-focused story doesn't drive me bonkers. That's a feat in itself really! For its reward, Chrono Trigger gets a flux capacitor-infused recommendation for any time travel junkies, fans of protagonists who have little to say but much ass to kick, and anyone who likes to pepper their vernacular with thees, thous, and ribbits.

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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 28, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Awwwwwww yeah :hat

Everything about this game is done so well and so right--the memorable music, the addicting gameplay, the captivating story, and the stunning visuals. I love Final Fantasy VI and all, but Chrono Trigger really takes the cake on this one. It's in my top 3 of all time, no question. :tup
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Post by: Bolsters on October 28, 2014, 10:36:44 PM
Awwwwwww yeah :hat
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Post by: Lynxo on October 29, 2014, 03:30:38 AM
Awwwwwww yeah :hat
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ariich on October 29, 2014, 03:46:24 AM
Can't believe I've never played Chrono Trigger. Will have to remedy that, sounds fantastic.
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Post by: Lynxo on October 29, 2014, 05:58:00 AM
Can't believe I've never played Chrono Trigger. Will have to remedy that, sounds fantastic.
I envy you, you're in for a treat. The story may not seem like much at first, but after the main villain is introduced, it grows and grows until it's just a huge as any old school Final Fantasy. It's so awesome. :heart
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Post by: The King in Crimson on October 29, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
Can't believe I've never played Chrono Trigger. Will have to remedy that, sounds fantastic.
Do it. It's still such a great game and definitely worth the time investment.

12. WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos (PC: 2002)
WarCraft 2: Tides of Darkness has the distinction of being the very second game I got for the PC (the first was Sim City 2000) and I credit it with turning me into the primarily PC gamer that I am today. I loved WarCraft 2 and when I heard that Blizzard was finally planning a sequel, I ate up every bit of information that dribbled out in the intervening months. When it finally dropped, I was in heaven. WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos was clearly the successor to WarCraft 2. The roots were still plainly visible but the trunk and branches were all different enough to make it a new kind of tree.

All of the games in the WarCraft series (aside from World of Warcraft) are real-time strategy games and they helped to establish and make the RTS genre as successful and ubiquitous as it was at the end of 90's and the beginning of the 2000's. Unlike its predecessor, WarCraft 3 takes some of the design decisions from StarCraft and features four, unique races, each one fairly different and largely balanced against each other. Both the humans and the orcs return from the previous games while the night elves and the undead are the new kids on the block (not the band...). WarCraft 3 also features a huge focus on heroes. Your heroes gain levels and get access to new abilities as the battles wage on. They are a huge focus in how you plan and fight battles and, in the latter stages of games, become the centerpieces of the game. Some people did not care for the huge focus on the heroes, but I really enjoyed it and thought it added both a logical and exciting layer to a genre that was becoming a bit... staid and predictable at this point.

The story continues the broadening conflict between the humans and orcs and picks up several years after the events of WarCraft 2. The story unfolds across four different campaigns. In the first, with the orcs in exodus to some mysterious destination the humans face a new, unknown threat:  the undead scourge. In the second campaign, the undead continue their swath of destruction across the human lands of the Alliance. The third focuses on the orcs as they attempt to establish themselves in a new, unknown land and come into conflict with its native populace. The last deals with the night elves and brings all the dangling plot threads from the previous four campaigns to a close. Overall the story really isn't anything new, but it's told well and the characters all have enough depth and the missions are fairly varied and interesting enough that the game never gets boring. Sometimes you might be given a small and limited squad of troops to achieve your objectives, sometimes you might be tasked with establishing a base and destroying the enemy, and other times you might be given the simple objective to hold out and survive against increasingly insane waves of enemies.

The game really comes to life in its multiplayer capabilities. Teaming up with some friends against the computer or going all free for all against your buds is equally fun. When the tried and true game types fail to excite then WarCraft 3 comes with an impressively robust editor that allows you to make maps and even completely new and unique gametypes. It was from these polygonal loins that DOTA was born, for better or worse.

I've kinda moved away from the RTS genre lately, but there was a time when it was my preferred gametype. I'd play any and everyone I could get my hands on and WarCraft 3, even though it came out when the genre was waning, was (still is!) one of my favorites. If I had enough wood and lumber I'd give WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos the recommendation it deserves to anyone who enjoys furiously clicking on peasants, people who use the words daboo, zug-gug, and skooboo in their daily lexicon, and peon-rushing douchebags.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 01, 2014, 12:18:31 PM
Cool thing, I do love strategy games, but I do absolutely suck at them :lol .
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Post by: Lynxo on November 02, 2014, 05:40:25 AM
To this day, I'm still using the word "zug-zug" when someone asks me to do something.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2014, 07:00:36 AM
Cool thing, I do love strategy games, but I do absolutely suck at them :lol .

This. I enjoy these types of games for the skirmishes and campaigns on easy but on the difficult settings or playing online I am terrible.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on November 02, 2014, 07:41:08 PM
Meant to get this up last night but I got side-tracked by other things. Sorry bout that.

11. Baldur's Gate (PC: 1998)
I can vividly remember the months leading up to Baldur's Gate's release. I saw some screenshots in a gaming magazine and, for some reason, I became obsessed with the game. I had to get it when it came out. Why? No idea, but it was going to be mine. I knew nothing about Dungeons and Dragons and the Forgotten Realms were less Forgotten than completely unknown to me. Yet, still I was obsessed. The game finally released and being the poor, High School student that I was at the time, I had to wait until I finally had enough money to buy it for myself. One of my classmates got the game and he would spend the lunch period telling me all about the escapades of his party up and down the Sword Coast all while I seethed in jealousy and frustration.

Finally the day came when I held that dirt brown colored box in my hands. Slowly I fed each of its five CD's (!!) into my computer and went through the long, laborious installation process. The game recommended a 120mhz processor but I only had a 90 at the time. I didn't care. It didn't need to run smooth, it just needed to run. Once the installation was complete, I booted up the game and lost myself in the rich, fantasy world of the Forgotten Realms. Since my processor wasn't entirely up to snuff, the game ran rather poorly, the loading screens were extra long, and sometimes it would take a while for the game to catch up with the action. It wasn't ideal, but I didn't care. I played all 80 hours of the game like this.

Of all the games on this list, Baldur's Gate is very much a diamond in the rough. It has flaws, many of which annoy me very, very much and make me question why I continue to replay this game over and over again. Some parts are overly repetitive, many of the side quests are simple and boring fetch quests or kill quests, and very few of your party members have any sort of depth to them at all. It's buggy, it's long, and it's brutally, unforgivingly difficult at times and yet, it's number eleven on my list of my top twenty-five favorite games of all time. Why?  Because, despite all of those very apparent problems, it's still a whole lot of fun.

Baldur's Gate a tactical, real-time RPG set in the world of the Forgotten Realms. It uses a modified version of the 2E Advanced Dungeons and Dragons system for combat, character creation, and task resolution. That really didn't mean much to me at the time, but nowadays, whenever I replay the game, I find many of its restrictions irritating. Despite the limitations of the rules system, you can easily play the game without worrying about figuring out your THAC0 or saving throws. Your class and race confer certain benefits and drawbacks that will dictate how much ass you will kick and in what way it will be kicked. Most of that stuff is largely in the background, so you can just focus on the important things: the story, the characters, and the combat.

The story is typical epic fantasy stuff. You're an orphan, blah blah blah, mysterious armored dude wants you dead, yada yada yada, conspiracy, secrets, and the answers can only be unearthed by assembling a motley party of adventurers and going forth into the wilderness, crushing evil, taking its treasure and experience points. Some of the very first fights you'll get yourself involved in will probably end up with you and your party members dead because at this point, you are a level 1 schmuck venturing out into a world full of evil wizards, demons, dragons, gibberlings, bandits and a whole slew of other, nasty things that eat level 1 schmucks for breakfast. This means that when you finally take down that group of bandits that has been killing you over and over again there's an enormous sense of satisfaction and accomplishment. There's also a real sense of progression as you gain levels and get more and more powerful, threats that you once struggled with become easier and less dangerous. This makes it really feel like you are becoming the whispered Hero of the Sword Coast, plague of bandits and smasher of evil. The story may not be revolutionary but it does pack some great set pieces and twists along the way. The villains are all nasty enough that, by the end of the game, you'll want to take them down just as much as your characters will.

The combat is where the game shines the most though. It occurs in real-time but you can pause the action at any moment to issue orders to your party members. This makes most encounters feel a bit more tactical than they normally would. And you're going to need to stretch those tactical muscles because rushing straight on into most fights is going to result in revisiting the loading screen many, many times. You'll need to prepare which spells you think you might need ahead of time and buff appropriately lest you get caught with your proverbial codpiece around your ankles.

I could keep going on and on, but this is already long enough so I'll cut it short here. The short of it is Baldur's Gate is a flawed but somehow still fantastic fantasy RPG. It's fantastic enough that I've played through it fully at least four times and the game is, I think, around at least 40 hours long. I don't ever want to see how much time I've spent on this game, lest I start feeling really, really sad for myself. Regardless, it gets a +3 in the Recommendation non-weapon proficiency skill for anyone who has ever wanted to delve into dangerous dungeons, people who have always wanted their own giant miniature space hamster, and those who have always wanted to try their hand at beating the crap out of Elminster (and failing miserably...).

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Post by: ReaperKK on November 02, 2014, 08:33:32 PM
I started chrono trigger but never finished it. I'll have to fix that one day.

I have some great fun with wc3 and never played BG
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on November 02, 2014, 09:01:58 PM
Chrono Trigger again? This game must be good, eh?

:neverusethis:
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Post by: Lynxo on November 03, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
OMG, I know I keep repeating myself here, but I LOVE YOUR LIST!
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Post by: The King in Crimson on November 03, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
OMG, I know I keep repeating myself here, but I LOVE YOUR LIST!
If you love PC games from around the end of the 90's through the early 2000's, I reckon you will continue to love it. :)

And now for a game that was certainly not on the PC.

10. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64: 1998)
Ocarina of Time is the landmark video game that transported Link from the world of topdown, isometric 2D to a full on 3D action/adventure/platformer and, in my opinion, it does so very successfully and much more so than, say, Mario 64 (so controversial!). Ocarina retains the series focus on exploration, puzzle solving, and combat but it makes full use of the 3D environments while doing so. Some may criticize the game for being a bit too handholdy with the inclusions of both Navi (fucking Navi!) and the Z-targeting, but while Navi does have the tendency to point out the obvious, the Z-targeting system keeps the combat from devolving into a mess of swinging cameras and obscured enemies. Additionally, the Z-targeting system allows for the game to incorporate some fun and involved fights, such as the stalfos duels, that might otherwise not be possible. It's rather ingenious how such a simple mechanism can be so elegant when implemented well. With the focus on the z-targeting mechanic, combat becomes less of a ferocious clash of quickly traded blows and more of a slow, patient game of wait for the right moment. Some might criticize this aspect of the gameplay but I think it works perfectly.

Like in Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time focuses more time on the story than the first two games. The story basically boils down to an excuse to explore a bunch of dungeons, find treasure, and fight bosses but it's well done for what it is. Like the Light World/Dark World mechanic in Link to the Past, Ocarina allows you to switch between time periods; the peaceful and pastoral Hyrule of young Link's time period and the dark, ruined, and semi-post apocalyptic Hyrule of his near future. Switching between time periods becomes essential to the latter part of the game, as performing tasks in Young Link's timeline unlocks areas that Adult Link would normally find impassable. Ocarina also includes a massive amount of optional side-quests to perform that will likely drive the completionists absolutely bonkers.

I have very little to complain about when it comes to Ocarina.  I guess, maybe it's a little too easy? Everything else is just so massively good, the dungeon design, the music (the Forest Temple theme, I could listen to that for hours...), the enemies, the combat, the bosses. Ocarina of Time gets a full heart containers worth of recommendations for anyone who gets a perverse pleasure out of making Link fall from ridiculous heights, folks who love watching Darunia dance, and people whom will never find the words 'Hey... Listen!' ever getting annoying.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/OcarinaOfTimeBattle.JPG) (http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/54472-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-master-quest-gamecube-screenshot.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 03, 2014, 10:49:37 PM
FINALLY a game I can agree with! :lol
One of my favourite games of all time because as you said, everything is just so good. Is it too easy? I'm a pretty casual gamer, especially these days, so that's worked in its favour for me if anything. :tup
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on November 03, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
This and Majora's Mask are probably the two most important games of my childhood. :tup Everything about them just blew me away and they're still fun to play. A true masterpiece that will likely never tire on me.
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Post by: Bolsters on November 04, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
One of the greatest. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Lynxo on November 04, 2014, 02:09:10 AM
I bought the special edition of Wind Waker to my Gamecube, just so I could play this. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 04, 2014, 03:05:38 AM
I bought the special edition of Wind Waker to my Gamecube, just so I could play this. :tup

Me too. I still haven't finished Master Quest. I think I made it to the Spirit Temple?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Lynxo on November 04, 2014, 03:12:25 AM
I bought the special edition of Wind Waker to my Gamecube, just so I could play this. :tup

Me too. I still haven't finished Master Quest. I think I made it to the Spirit Temple?
I bought it just a few weeks ago and haven't gotten around to play it yet.  :lol I used to emulate it when I was younger, feels good to actually play it properly now.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 04, 2014, 08:01:58 AM
I have the 3DSremake, but haven't finished it :P
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on November 05, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Talking about remakes, Majora's Mask for 3DS was confirmed today by Nintendo.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on November 05, 2014, 07:14:44 PM
9. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (X-Box 360/PC: 2011)
Skyrim is yet another Bethesda game in which a giant, sprawling world calls out to the inner kleptomaniac in each of us to come and steal all of its shit. Like Morrowind, Skyrim takes place in the fantasy setting of Tamriel, specifically the province of Skyrim which is all vikings and dragons and big, honking axes. While not as banal as Oblivion, Skyrim's setting is still fairly typical fantasy faire and doesn't really hold much of a candle to Morrowind's bizarre and alien landscape. Thankfully, Skyrim succeeds in other areas. For one, finally, the leveling system has been unborked. No longer can you accidentally level yourself into utter uselessness just because you don't know how to game the system. The combat is much better too. What it comes down to for me is that while Morrowind is more interesting to explore, Skyrim is much more fun to play.

Like Oblivion and Morrowind, Skyrim is filled to the brim with things to do: monsters to kill, quests to undertake, and loot to... loot. It provides enough of a guiding hand so that you'll always know where you need to go... eventually but it leaves the getting there up to you. You can ignore the main quest for as long as you wish and just head off on your own to do whatever you want to.

While there is a whole helluva lot to do in Skyrim, I don't have that much to say about it. Why? Well, almost everything I said about Morrowind could apply to Skyrim so there's really no reason to cover the same ground again. I usually vacillate between which Elder Scrolls game I prefer, but I think it just comes down to fact that no matter how intriguing I find Morrowind, I much prefer to play Skyrim. It plays so much better and the absolutely snazzy graphics help with the immersion factor. Even un-modded the game is beautiful.

I give a loud Fus-Ro-Recommendation to Skyrim to any wannabe vikings, weekend dragon slayers, or those who manage to still adventure despite that arrow they took to the knee.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on November 06, 2014, 12:05:01 AM
Talking about remakes, Majora's Mask for 3DS was confirmed today by Nintendo.

I literally yelped and salivated with joy for that.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Onno on November 06, 2014, 01:40:43 AM
Skyrim is a fantastic game, I played it for a long time. However, the one thing that made me basically stop playing it is the combat. It becomes so dull after a while.
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Post by: Lynxo on November 06, 2014, 01:54:47 AM
I don't even wanna know how many hours I've put into Skyrim. Ridiculous game. I even got the über edition for it:

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 :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 06, 2014, 08:15:44 AM
I think I spent around 100+ hours on my first game, and 60+ on the second, DLCs included. Great game.
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Post by: Chino on November 06, 2014, 08:23:37 AM
I put in almost 300 hours on my first game. My launch-model ps3 got the ylod and that was that. I tried starting the game again and stopped playing before I got to the first checkpoint.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Randaran on November 06, 2014, 06:39:25 PM
I put around 200 hours into this game, and still play it every once in a while. The only issue was that the PS3 version became unplayable once the file size approached the double digits. It became even more of a slideshow than the Berserk series. Luckily, Bethesda fixed this issue... after nearly half a year. Still a great game, though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 09, 2014, 10:54:08 AM
8. Mass Effect / Mass Effect 2 / Mass Effect 3 (X-Box 360: 2007/2010/2012)
To those who say that I'm cheating by putting three games in one slot, I respond by saying "Tough cookies." This is my list and I reserve the right to cheat if I want to!

Regardless of the cheating (or lackthereof) in this entry, for those who have been living under an especially large and internet-less rock for the past seven years, Mass Effect is the highly successful third-person shooter/RPG trilogy wherein players take the role of Commander Shepard, certified human badass, in a distant future filled with aliens, technomagic errr I mean 'biotics,' and killer synthetics. Players can customize Shepard in an incredible number of ways, from choosing the gender of their hero (female Shepard ftw!), her class, skills, backstory, companions, and even a limited number of romance options. You can build Shepard into a stone-cold killer who is ruthless and pragmatic when it comes to accomplishing her mission or you can make Shepard into a bleeding heart 'save and help everyone' space hippy if you wish.

The great thing about Mass Effect is how successfully it manages to combine all of these elements into a cohesive and enthralling game. Okay, well, maybe in the first game the shooting was a bit, erm, clunky but the subsequent games really refined the action to the point that movement and shooting in Mass Effect 3 is incredibly fluid and fun. Each class and character has their own abilities, strengths and weaknesses which make them more suited to certain situations or tasks. Playing the game as a sneaky, sniping infiltrator, for example, is going to feel very different from playing the game as a shotgun-toting, charge-happy vanguard (the ONLY way to play the game), while bringing Liara and Tali along with you on a mission is going to mean you'll be more effective against certain enemies and less effective against others.

The story grabs you from the first few minutes of Mass Effect and doesn't loosen its grip until the final (and controversial) seconds of Mass Effect 3. And this is the reason that I ranked all three games together. Each game can be enjoyed independently, but it's together where their greatness truly shines. Character moments in the final game won't be as poignant if you haven't spent the last two games getting to know the characters and experiencing the story with them.  And the game is filled to the brim with great and interesting characters that both help to round out your team and add flavor to the setting. Characters like Tali, Wrex, The Illusive Man, Saren, Garrus, Mordin, Joker, Legion, and Captain Anderson are just a small number of examples that I could name.

I do have some issues with the games, each one has its own problems in my opinion, but overall, I think the trilogy holds together amazingly well and it is a great accomplishment on the part of Bioware. If I had to rank them (and well, this is a list so I kinda do...), I'd rank them thusly: Mass Effect >= Mass Effect 2 > Mass Effect 3. While Mass Effect 3 is probably my least favorite due to some story reasons, it is probably my favorite for pure gameplay fun, but for the purposes of this list each game is part of a greater whole, where the weaknesses in one are made up for by the strengths in another. For this reason, the Mass Effect trilogy gets my endorsement for anyone who likes Star Wars but thinks that years of shit movies and shit novels have made the setting a bit shit, people for whom the Renegade option is the only option, and those who love to say "I'm Commander Shepherd and this is my favorite game on the Citadel."

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I'll see about getting the next one up, hopefully later tonight.
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Post by: ariich on November 09, 2014, 11:57:29 AM
Incredible series!

I don't think you're cheating, the games make up a single storyline.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 09, 2014, 01:00:39 PM
I'm planning to buy the trilogy for PS3 soon. These games look bloody good.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on November 09, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
I'm planning to buy the trilogy for PS3 soon. These games look bloody good.
Do it. They are. :)

7. X-Com: UFO Defense (PC: 1994)
X-Com is a turn-based, tactical strategy game that hails from the distant, sepia-toned and pixilated years of the early 90's. Come join me, dear reader, and let me regale you with tales of massacred soldiers, alien invasions, hidden movement, and psychic assaults.

Despite being twenty years old, X-Com is still, way ahead of its time. The basic gist of X-Com is that the Earth is under attack by aliens and you are given the go-ahead from the various nations of the Earth to start a force capable of defending against the aliens and, eventually, taking the fight to them. That's it.  That's the story. There are no characters, no real plot twists, just this basic setup, and a series of randomized encounters that propel the action and keep the game moving.

X-Com combines two separate, but totally integrated games. The first is the world view, where you have a wide, encompassing view of the Earth. From here, you build up a base, manage your money, construct supplies, train troops, keep the various nations of the world happy so that they will continue to supply you with funds and manpower. There's a lot to do and, as with most ancient PC games, the UI is supremely unhelpful. There are a lot of buttons and no help on what any of them do. Getting into X-Com is not an easy task for the uninitiated.

The second game within X-Com are the various isometric, turn-based scenarios that you will undertake. Such scenarios involve alien craft that you shoot down and investigate, terror missions where aliens attack civilian areas, base assaults where you find and destroy hidden alien bases and also, when the aliens finally have enough of you fucking with their shit, they will assault your base. Yes, the aliens are bastards, but that is just the tip of the alien-bastardry iceberg.

The aliens that your soldiers will face are a varied lot, starting with the lowly greys (called sectoids) that you will encounter throughout the early stages of the game to the fucking ethereals that will make you hate anything and everything in the late stages of the game. Seriously, fuck you ethereals. Even the sectoids, the alien chumps of the X-Com universe, are not without their tricks. Their commanders often possess psychic powers that they can use to drive your soldiers into states of panic and fear. Other aliens include the floating, biomechanical cyberdiscs, the flying floaters (redundant word is redundant?), the dumb and tough mutons who fill the role of the space brutes, snakemen, and the chrysalids. Ugh, the chrysalids. Your first encounter with chrysalids will be one you will remember. I have never seen a mission turn from good to omg-my-whole-squad-is-dead faster than when chrysalids are involved. For a chrysalid, think of a giant, bipedal insect that, when it bites its victim, the venom turns the creature into a mindless zombie. Bad enough right? Wrong! When you kill that zombie, another chrysalid pops out fully grown to continue the cycle of teabagging your ego into a bloody smear.

Make one wrong move, and your soldiers will die. And they will die a lot. Don't get attached or you might watch as your Master Sniper named Sven, who survived through those first, harrowing missions to become a true, exo-skeleton and plasma-rifle equipped badass, get iced by a lowly sectoid in a darkened warehouse. That's the beauty of X-Com. It is so unrelenting and so punishingly evil in how it constantly pushes you to maximize your tactical options. Do you reload and try to find a way to save Sven or do you let him take one for the team so that you can, hopefully, mop up the remaining alien resistance with limited casualties?

One aspect that I did not touch upon that adds an entire dimension to the gameplay is that X-Com features almost fully destructible environments. If you know that a lone chrysalid is hiding inside of a warehouse, you can bomb the place to the ground with a few well-placed rockets and grenades rather than send a platoon of men inside to their death. You can even blast holes through walls with your laser rifles. This adds a tremendous amount of tactical options to an already tactically rich experience and one that you will miss when you play similar games. The fact that X-Com, a game made in 1994, had destructible terrain and most games nowadays do not is astounding.

So if you don't mind dealing with an obtuse UI and graphics only slightly clearer than mud, give X-Com a try. It's not the fastest paced game and it may seem a bit boring at first, but that first terror mission or that first base assault should convince you that there is something very special about this game. It's a classic for a reason.

This game comes highly recommended for wannabe anti-martian field commanders, people who love to name military squads after their favorite bands and then watching them die horrifically, and folks who love to read the words 'hidden movement' over and over and over again.

Note, a sequel/remake to X-Com: UFO Defense came out in 2012 named X-Com: Enemy Unknown. It is a good game and it very handily updates and expands upon the formulas of the previous games. I don't know if it's nearly as good, but if you're jonesing for a game with a similar style and depth, but with modern graphics and a UI that doesn't look like an accounting spreadsheet, then Enemy Unknown is an excellent game. Play it on classic difficulty and it will punish the fuck out of you.

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Post by: Sacul on November 12, 2014, 04:39:46 PM
Isn't a new game of this series out? I remember it being diesel-punk during the first trailers, and was disappointed it ended up as a strategy game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 12, 2014, 10:06:29 PM
Isn't a new game of this series out? I remember it being diesel-punk during the first trailers, and was disappointed it ended up as a strategy game.
Yes. Enemy Unknown. It's awesome. I don't know what 'diesel punk' is, but X-Com is probably not it. Yes, it is a strategy game and it's a great one.

6. The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past (SNES: 1992)
Surprise! Surprise! Another Zelda game on this list! An astute reader must surely be thinking that I must really like me some Zelda. You bet your sweet Triforce I do!

And this is my favorite of them all. Why? Well, take all the other gushing things I said about The Legend of Zelda and Ocarina of Time and amplify them by a number greater than 7 but probably less than 23. Yep, A Link To The Past is that badass. As far as I can recall, LttP features probably the most involved story and world of a Zelda game to that date while significantly expanding upon both the histories of Hyrule and Ganon but also the lore of the Triforce. A lot of this would be fleshed out to greater degrees in subsequent games.

Like in the original, LttP is another top-down, isometric entry in the series, but it also features some 3D-esque architecture. I'm not really going to go into too much detail here, I've already fellated myself to two other Zelda games on this list, but LttP is like the original Zelda but... better in every single way. The enemies are more varied and interesting, the dungeons are more involved with some actual puzzles, the bosses are all fucking awesome and they all feel like bosses, the overworld is large and expansive with tons of things to do and find, and the items are all very useful, to the point that you'll be using many of them over and over again.

This is a fantastic game and it still plays like a champ. It's not stupidly difficult like some other games from the NES and SNES era (*coughAdventureofLinkcough*) but it's hard enough that you feel a sense of accomplishment when you kill a boss or finish a palace. The shiny, cartoony SNES graphics means that it has aged a lot better than the blocky polygons and muddy textures of Ocarina (IMO). The music is awesome with the Dark World Palace music of bringing just the right amount of dread and the Light World Theme being the type of epic music Legolas probably chills out to in between killing orcs and shield-surfing on the weekends (or maybe he just listens to Rhapsody of Fire...).

I love this game and you should to. If you don't well... then... go get a... taste... reevaluation. Or... something. Your mom's a Triforce. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past gets a Triforce of Recommendation for anyone hoping that their Dark World form is something other than a rubber ball or a sickly mushroom, those triforce wondering triforce just triforce how triforce many triforce more times I can triforce fit the word 'Triforce' into this entry triforcetriforcetriforce, and any hookshot fanatics triforce.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Bolsters on November 12, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
Approval rating: 100%
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on November 12, 2014, 10:41:20 PM
ALTP is amazing. My favorite 2D Zelda by far. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ariich on November 13, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
Yay! :D The only Zelda game I've played, but I loved it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on November 13, 2014, 04:05:35 AM
Have you played A Link Between Worlds, my lord?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 16, 2014, 01:46:01 PM
Have you played A Link Between Worlds, my lord?
Alas, no I have not. Not out of any desire not to but mostly because I don't own a 3DS. If I did, I would totally get that game as what little I've read about it looks pretty awesome. Every once in a while I kinda think about getting a 3DS, just to play A Link Between Worlds, but then I look at how my DS just sits around and gathers a lot of dust these days and I rethink that idea.

5. Half-Life (PC: 1998)
I can remember when Half-Life first came out. I don't recall any of the hype leading up its release but I remember when it was finally released, it made an almost immediate impact upon the gaming landscape for its graphics, gameplay, atmosphere, story, and mise-en-scène (which is, essentially, the visual act of telling a story for all of you who are not snobby film fans or people too lazy to not google snobby film-fan terms)1. It was a landmark, loved by critics and fans alike and for good reason. The things it was lauded for at the time seem so commonplace now, the lack of cinematics, the silent protagonist, and the way the scripted events helped to make the setting of Black Mesa feel more alive even as everything around you was dying horribly. Even the AI was impressive. Not just for its time as it has, IMO, very rarely been equaled since (only F.E.A.R. really comes to mind).

I'll just get this out of the way but Half-Life is one of the best straight up First Person Shooters of all time. It combines a good story, an excellent setting (Black Mesa is up there with Rapture for me), great gameplay, a wide variety of weapons, a wide variety of enemies to shoot with the aforementioned weapons, some of the best boss battles ever to grace an FPS (the boss battles in HL2 are all, IMO, a fucking joke by comparison), and probably some other stuff that I forgot to mention.

Half-Life tells the story of the worst day ever of Scientist Gordon Freeman, who, after a botched experiment at the Black Mesa Research Facility, must escape the ruined compound as countless hordes of extradimensional beings begin to overrun it. Eventually the military is called in not help the trapped scientists but to clean up the mess before it gets out of control. It's a great story and it's conveyed with nary a cut scene in sight. Throughout the game, from the opening tram ride through Black Mesa to the alien biospheres of Xen at the very climax, you stay within the confines of Gordon Freeman so everything you see an experience it's as if you are seeing and experiencing it.

Despite a majority of the action being limited to the Black Mesa Research facility, there are a wide variety of levels that you'll explore from the offices and testing labs, to the underground railways, the rocket testing pits, the industrial waste disposal area... section, whatever, to the final moments of the game when you are transported to the gravity-deficient levels of Xen. Some people don't like the Xen levels and, while I'm not their biggest fan, they don't last too long and there are some really fun moments, including a boss that looks distressingly like a wrinkled ball-sack and spits white... stuff at you.

By today's standards, Half-Life might not seem like much but back in the day, it sure was something else. Despite not making an appearance on this list, the expansion pack Opposing Force is also a lot of fun in how it presents certain sections of the game from a different character and perspective while expanding upon the story in some interesting ways. To this day, I'm still saddened that Valve hasn't done anything else with Corporal Adrian Shepherd despite apparently really liking the character. That said, Half-Life is a beast of a game, the best in the business and one that any fan of the FPS genre should play. It gets my recommendation for anyone who hopes the HEV suit will finally become a fashion statement, daydreaming theoretically physicists who think that they will also be a crowbar-wielding badass when the aliens finally invade, and anyone who really, truly hates wooden crates.

1 Note: To any snobby film fans2, please tell me that I used that term correctly.
2 Note: To any snobby film fans, I use the term 'snobby film fan' with the utmost respect and cordiality3 to any snobby film fans. Please do not send me hate mail. Actually... please do
34 When I wrote this word and subsequently googled it just to see if it was in fact a real world, I was very much surprised that it was, delighted that I had found a new world, and saddened when I could not claim it as a new word.
4 Apparently I have become too addicted to the use of footnotes. I promise to never, ever use them again5.
5 Okay, sorry, I lied, but it was for a good reason! Maybe not, but hey I just wanted to give a brief and perfunctory 'Fuck you!' to Valve for both creating an excellent and enduring franchise and then giving us gamers the biggest middle finger for leaving it hanging for so long. Seriously... WTF Valve-bros?!

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2014, 02:05:36 PM
Great game. I didn't play it when it first came out but a couple years after and really enjoyed it. Half Life 2 when it was released on the Orange Box for xbox360 had more of a memory for me because of how much I played it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on November 16, 2014, 02:27:22 PM
I prefer 2 but 1 is great as well. In fact, it was one of the very first PC games that i've played.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 16, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Lots of respect for Half-life 1. Very groundbreaking work.

and Part 2 is one of my very favorite games of all time.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Nick on November 16, 2014, 02:59:39 PM
I want to have sex with this list, and have little baby lists with it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 16, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
Sadly, I could never get pass the first level, when the aliens attack the lab. And the worst thing is that I played it just a few months ago :lol .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ReaperKK on November 16, 2014, 06:39:55 PM
This list is fucking awesome, I want to go back and play hl1
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 16, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Agreed, the list is incredible
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Lynxo on November 17, 2014, 12:22:50 AM
I want to have sex with this list, and have little baby lists with it.
Agreed. I want to take this list behind the barn and make it pregnant.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: SystematicThought on November 17, 2014, 01:10:32 AM
I will surely disappoint in the coming days when my list rolls around. I can't top the classics here since my list will all be 2000-2014, since I don't play too many games before then.  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Lynxo on November 17, 2014, 01:14:39 AM
I will surely disappoint in the coming days when my list rolls around. I can't top the classics here since my list will all be 2000-2014, since I don't play too many games before then.  :lol
Oh, at least not for me. I love both retro games and newer games. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Randaran on November 17, 2014, 02:35:19 PM
I will surely disappoint in the coming days when my list rolls around. I can't top the classics here since my list will all be 2000-2014, since I don't play too many games before then.  :lol

Same here
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 17, 2014, 09:42:06 PM
Sadly, I could never get pass the first level, when the aliens attack the lab. And the worst thing is that I played it just a few months ago :lol .
You should definitely should give it another shot. Half-Life gets incredible on the third level and beyond.

I will surely disappoint in the coming days when my list rolls around. I can't top the classics here since my list will all be 2000-2014, since I don't play too many games before then.  :lol
That only means I just happened to grow up at the right time. The mid 90's to the early 00's was an incredible time for video games. I enjoy quite a few newer games but there's no doubt that I vacillate to that golden era more often than not when I need a fix.

Agreed. I want to take this list behind the barn and make it pregnant.

Agreed, the list is incredible

This list is fucking awesome, I want to go back and play hl1

I want to have sex with this list, and have little baby lists with it.
Thanks. :lol
You guys can fight over the sloppy seconds once I'm done with it.

On that note... with Half-Life we've entered into the glorious top five of this list. These are games that I've replayed so many times over the years for many various reasons and, for some reason, never manage to get old. That may describe many of the games on this, but the top five are a whole, 'nother category. I don't even want to know how many hours I've sunken into these games, only my time played on WoW back when I was really into that may put that to shame and, to be honest, a lot of the time I was hate-playing WoW, for want of a better term. So, let's continue onward with number 4...

4. Planescape: Torment (PC: 1999)
What can change the nature of a man? Such is the question that sits at the heart of Planescape: Torment. Released in late 1999 to critical acclaim but incredibly flaccid sales, Planescape: Torment has become a veritable cult classic over the years. Frequently included on numerous best of lists, Planescape: Torment is a very interesting and unique game, one that will sit with you long after you've finished it.

You are the Nameless One, stricken with amnesia, you awaken on a slab in a mortuary. Scars cover your body, more scars than seem possible to live from, but the reason for your 'living' becomes readily apparent. You are immortal.  You cannot die.  And thus begins your quest to discover who you are, where you come from, and why you are what you are.

Planescape: Torment is an isometric real-time role-playing game in the vein of the very successful Baldur's Gate series. It takes place in the Dungeons and Dragons campaign setting of Planescape, primarily the city of Sigil which sits at the very center of the planes and serves as hub where all its disparate denizens can come to trade, work, and live in relative peace. It is a place where angels will barter with demons, where the very alleys and buildings can gain life, where shadows stalk and not all is as it seems. In Sigil, belief can become reality and oftentimes, what you believe is more important than what is.

Planescape: Torment is notable for being highly dialogue driven. If you do not like reading giant blocks of well-written text, then this game might not be for you but man will you be missing out. The writing is absolutely engrossing, but much of that comes down to the evocative, weird flair of the Planescape setting, a place seemingly limited only to the restrictions of the imagination. This is no swords and sorcery, elves, orcs and dwarves shit here. In fact, no elves or dwarves or orcs even appear in the game. Swords are very limited as well. The Nameless One mostly ends up using a ragtag assortment of bludgeoning instruments, like prybars, zombified arms, and clubs, to mete out his punishment.

In fact, one of the very interesting things about Planescape: Torment is the role that combat plays in the game, namely that it's completely and utterly boring. There's often a sense that if you get dragged into combat, it's because you did something wrong. Oftentimes, if your Wisdom, Intelligence or Charisma is high enough, you can get through many encounters just by talking or thinking your way out of it. And it is much more personally rewarding when you successfully do so. The bucketload of experience points you usually get for finding a nonviolent solution tends to help as well.

There are other unique aspects to the game that help it stand out. For one, your immortality plays a critical role in progressing through the game. There are puzzles and sequences that depend and play off of your inability to die. For example, you encounter a certain heavily trapped tomb and the only way to reach the end is to die. Repeatedly. There is also a sequence of dialogue where you can have a half-demon root around in your intestines and find a magical ring that's been hidden there by... someone. Maybe even yourself.

The game is filled to the brim with many similar unique ideas: magical spellcasting hivemind swarms of rats (remember when other RPG's start you off killing rats?), a talking skull (one of your companions!), a necropolis filled with largely peaceful undead, and even a reformed succubus that runs a brothel catering to intellectual rather than physical stimulation (another NPC companion).

That brings me to another aspect of the game that warrants a mention: the characters. Never has an RPG had such a varied and motley selection of NPC characters, many of which can join you on your quest. The conversations and storylines that you can unlock with these characters are extremely well-written with an incredible sense of depth. Special mention goes out to the character of Dak'kon, who has one of the best written storylines in any game ever. Slowly peeling back the layers of his past and personality is incredibly rewarding.

This is a great game and, unfortunately, despite the massive acclaim it gets, it's still a bit of a cult star. It's a long game with a lot of text to read and some tepid combat but it's so evocative and so well-written that it doesn't matter. The game conjures up a world like no other and plops you right in the middle of it. It's one of the few games where I'd suggest gimping your physical stats and maxing out your Intelligence, Wisdom and especially Charisma, as they open up so many more doors in the gameplay than those physical, combat-focused stats. This game deserves to be played by anyone who calls themselves a fan of RPG's.

Planescape: Torment comes highly recommended for fans of text boxes, planar philosophy majors, and people who've always wanted to play the badass high Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma character.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Lynxo on November 18, 2014, 02:55:41 AM
I've heard so many great things about this game but I've never played this myself. I did a little research now and found out that it's avaliable from Gog really cheap and that there even is a Mac version:

http://www.gog.com/game/planescape_torment (http://www.gog.com/game/planescape_torment)

I think I'm gonna buy it and try it out.  :)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 18, 2014, 07:32:59 AM
I've been wanting so hard to play this game, but it won't happen until I renew my PC. Great writeups and cool list dude :tup .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 18, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
I've heard so many great things about this game but I've never played this myself. I did a little research now and found out that it's avaliable from Gog really cheap and that there even is a Mac version:

http://www.gog.com/game/planescape_torment (http://www.gog.com/game/planescape_torment)

I think I'm gonna buy it and try it out.  :)
Do it. It's an amazing game. It might require some fiddling to run properly on a newer system but there are mods and fan patches out there that fix some of the more egregious issues and make the game more presentable to modern sensibilities.

I've been wanting so hard to play this game, but it won't happen until I renew my PC. Great writeups and cool list dude :tup .
Thanks :)

3. StarCraft / StarCraft: Broodwar (PC: 1998)
For anyone who claims that strategy games cannot tell a good story, make them play StarCraft. If they still disagree, kill them because who wants people like that walking around free... and alive.

StarCraft is an isometric real-time strategy game in the vein of WarCraft. In fact, before it came out, some folks joked that it looked just like WarCraft in space. Oh how wrong they were. See, WarCraft had two playable races, the orcs and the humans, and despite having different units, the two largely played the same. An ogre was the same as a knight, a catapult was the same as a ballista, etc. StarCraft, on the other hand, boasted three playable races, the terran humans, the psychic and spiritual protoss, and the hivemind zerg, and, unlike WarCraft, the races were different. Each played differently with different units, different strengths, and different weaknesses. Strategies that worked for the zerg would not work with, say, the terrans. Now, having three different races isn't that big of a deal, but having them be largely balanced against each other is where the cream really.... um creamifies. No one race overpowered the others and Blizzard, the game's creator, spent years after its release tweaking and retweaking aspects of the races until they were nigh perfect.

The story of StarCraft unfolds across three separate campaigns, each one focusing on one of the primary races and telling a chunk of the overall story. While I do love it, the story of StarCraft isn't really all that innovative and it doesn't really start to pick up until the very end of the terran campaign (which is the first part of the story). From that point, betrayals and plot-twists unfold naturally and expand the scope of the story. Characters are portrayed surprisingly well since you only get an overhead view of their 2D sprite characters and maybe a bit of some talking-head dialoguing.

Broodwar, the expansion to StarCraft, (remember when games had expansions?) on the other hand, ups the game and features some really well-done storytelling. And no, I do not mean it's well done for an RTS, the story is actually really good. There are some great twists and reveals and the characters all have a surprising amount of pathos to them. Everything is incorporated masterfully into the RTS style such that the storytelling never feels out of place and you find yourself looking forward to the next mission briefing just to find out what happens next. The ending to Broodwar is so excellent that StarCraft II, no matter how good it is, never really had a chance to live up to that legacy.

But, enough about the story, you're playing an RTS so obviously, the most important aspects are the gameplay and the multiplayer.  The gameplay in StarCraft is like most other real-time strategy games of the day. You build a base, train troops and try to defeat your opponent. Battles are fast and furious and how you manage your troops is often the key to victory. Just sending swarms of troops at your opponent is not a guarantee that you'll win, for your opponent might have the perfect counter to your force. Games can last hours or be over in minutes.

The real reason for StarCraft's longevity and success is mostly for its excellent multiplayer and the fact that you could connect online (for free!) with other players on battle.net. I sunk so many hours online and at LAN parties playing StarCraft whether it was straight up team matches against the computer, free-for-alls, or maybe even a custom scenario designed by some other player using the robust map-making software.

Really, StarCraft had it all. Great gameplay, great multiplayer, a damn good story, and an editor to make your own missions and scenarios for when you were tired of all of the above. To this day, I will happily and eagerly play StarCraft because no other RTS compares to its scope and brilliance in execution. This is a game that every fan of RTS's should play. It is a game that others still try to live up to, including its own sequels.

StarCraft is highly recommended for those who love Warhammer clones, for those whom tactical combat is akin to pornography, and for folks who love to click, click, click, and click some more.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Japan: The List (pg 9)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on November 18, 2014, 10:56:34 PM
Damn. I remember my grandpa always played Planescape: Torment when I was really young.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Onno on November 19, 2014, 03:11:38 AM
I've never played Starcraft/Broodwar, but I've played lots of SCII which is also an amazing game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 19, 2014, 03:42:11 AM
Hours upon hours upon hours spent playing Starcraft.

Unfortunately I sucked at it, but it was still fun as hell.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on November 19, 2014, 09:52:05 AM
I guess one of these two games will appear: Baldur's Gate II or Diablo II
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
StarCraft: Broodwar is a hell of a game. The multiplayer was really addictive and challenging. This is the game when you think you're playing quite good when you're doing the campaigns, but then people just own you so hard online that you're either considering to quit or to spend hundreds of hours playing and improving.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Randaran on November 19, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
One of the few RTSs I have ever played. I loved it, even though I suck.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on November 19, 2014, 02:49:23 PM
I have never heard of Planescape: Torment before, but it sounds like something I'd gobble up nice and good.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 19, 2014, 10:38:00 PM
Damn. I remember my grandpa always played Planescape: Torment when I was really young.
Your grandpa sounds awesome.

I guess one of these two games will appear: Baldur's Gate II or Diablo II
:neverusethis:

StarCraft: Broodwar is a hell of a game. The multiplayer was really addictive and challenging. This is the game when you think you're playing quite good when you're doing the campaigns, but then people just own you so hard online that you're either considering to quit or to spend hundreds of hours playing and improving.

One of the few RTSs I have ever played. I loved it, even though I suck.
Yeah, I was never very good at StarCraft. I think the best I ever got was decidedly mediocre, but I enjoyed all the time I spent with it nonetheless.

2. Deus Ex (PC: 2000)
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Ah, yes, Deus Ex. You know I couldn't leave you off of a list like this?

Deus Ex is a RPG with FPS elements. These days, it's usually the other way around, with FPS games incorporating small amounts of RPG-like elements (such as in Bioshock) to add a bit of variety to the pabulum of pure running-n-gunning (not that there's anything wrong with that... see Doom and Half-Life). Deus Ex, however, presents itself as an FPS on the surface but the mechanics running in the background are dictated by some very deep RPG elements. Your proficiency in the game's many skills dictates how well you perform in certain areas of the game. Not proficient in rifles? Well, your aim when using a rifle will be wild and inaccurate. Lockpicking noob? Those pesky locks will eat more of your lockpicks. Not a 1337 h4XX0r? Well, certain options will be unavailable to you when you hack computers and security systems. Your choices as to which skills to focus on will inform your play style. When approaching a compound full of enemies, a stealthy hacker would probably best find an alternative route as opposed to the straightforward, guns-akimbo, John Woo carnage-fest. That approach would likely lead to a hasty and messy death.

The skills in the game are a varied bunch, covering such disciplines as computers, lockpicking, electronics, environmental training, medicine, swimming, demolitions, heavy weapons, low-tech weapons, pistols, and rifles. Each one is useful and you can max out only a few by the end of the game so it's important to have an idea of what kind of play style you want to engage in at least somewhat early in the game. Okay sorry, that was a bit of a lie, you can cross Swimming off that list. Swimming sucks. Don't pick Swimming. Just... don't.

If you haven't gotten the memo by now, choice is the primary factor that guides this game and it extends beyond mere character creation and skill selection. Like in many RPG's nowadays, the choices you make in how to approach situations, how you solve dilemmas, and which avenue you take can have consequences later on. Characters can die if you choose one approach or another and you can even supposedly make it through the entire game without killing anyone. I've never done it because, well, I suck, but hey, the option is there for those who don't suck. As you progress through the game, you'll be awarded with augmentation canisters which will grant the choice of a power, depending upon the canister. You'll have options ranging from a cloaking system, a remote drone, an anti-missile defense field, exceptional strength, and a whole ton of other choices. You only have a limited amount of augmentation slots, so you won't be able to have access to every power. The choice, as they say, is yours Mr. Denton.

Deus Ex's story is a positive wet dream for the budding conspiracy theorist packing in references to the Illuminati, Majestic 12, Area 51, black helicopters, Men In Black (the non-Will Smith versions), government engineered viruses, vaccines, Triads, terrorists, and a whole host of other stuff, all wrapped in a grimy, nano-augmented cyberpunk wrapping. You play as JC Denton a nano-augmented special agent for the UNATCO organization. Your elder brother Paul is also a member of the organization, though his esteem is in doubt due to his preference for nonviolent tactics. A terrorist group called the NSF is stirring some shit on Liberty Island in New York and you're sent in to clean up the mess. The setting and plot balloons out from there, sending you to Hell's Kitchen, Paris, Hong Kong and other distant locales over the course of the game, though not necessarily in that order.

Deus Ex is an absolutely fantastic game, but I think more than any other game on this list, I think it might be one of the more difficult ones to get into for those more tuned to the more modern gaming sensibilities. The graphics were not very pleasant even back when the game was released and now they have that  very late 90's look that makes most early 3D games look like absolute rubbish. The dialogue is often laughably bad and the voice acting is hilariously awful at times. BUT, if you can overlook these issues, this game is a treasure trove of fantastic design and gameplay. Deus Ex gets a hearty recommendation for fans of amateur voice acting, people who have always wanted to play a pacifist in an FPS (uhhh... why?), and anyone who has always wanted to meet Mr. JC Denton in da fresh. I know that's two jokes about the voice acting, shut up...

For those craving the Deus Ex experience but are unwilling to travel back to the ancient, pre-bump mapping days of 2000, Deus Ex: Human Revolution more than delivers. It's not as good as the original but it's still a very enjoyable game, with much better combat, graphics, writing in general, and voice acting that is mostly acceptable. Avoid Deus Ex: Invisible War though, which is the sequel to the original. Many people make it out to be a colossal piece of shit but it's really not. It's a huge step down from the first game and a big disappointment, but it's still fun and enjoyable for what it is; a watered-down and hugely consolified simplified Deus Ex experience. Still, you're better off playing the original or Human Revolution. Only play Invisible War if you're deeply curious and you can get it cheap.

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Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Bolsters on November 19, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
This is one of two older RPG/FPS games I've been meaning to get around to playing for what seems like an eternity. Yet, I still haven't because I'm really fucking lazy. :lol

The other is System Shock 2.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: cramx3 on November 20, 2014, 06:34:55 AM
Never played the first one, but Human Revolution was an awesome game.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2014, 08:41:26 AM
Never played the first one, but Human Revolution was an awesome game.  :tup

This.  Took me a while to get the concepts of a game that is both RPG and FPS, but once I dedicated a little time to it, it rocked my world.  Excellent game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 20, 2014, 08:50:44 AM
This is one of two older RPG/FPS games I've been meaning to get around to playing for what seems like an eternity. Yet, I still haven't because I'm really fucking lazy. :lol

The other is System Shock 2.
Absolutely this. I really hope to renew my pc soon - I want so hard to play them. And what you said about Deus Ex being an RPG with FPS elements got me highly interested.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 20, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
1. Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn (PC: 2000)
And here it is. Number one. Numero uno. The best of the best. The favorite of the favorite. Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn has held the status for years with me for many various reasons, all of which I will expound upon in excruciating detail. I'll try to keep this as entertaining as possible.

First off, Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn is the sequel to the first Baldur's Gate game, which was my first foray into the world of Dungeons and Dragons. The first game... well, let's just say that I really like the first game, but it's really not perfect. It's kind of a diamond in the rough. Actually, not really a diamond even, more like a quartzite really at times. Still, I loved it enough that it made it's way onto my list... Ahh, number 11. Remember that? I was so young, so full of idealism then. Now? Just piss and hate... and cheetoes.

Now, Baldur's Gate 2 takes near everything wrong with the first game, improves upon it, then it takes everything good about the first game and improves upon that too. And then it does even more. The side-quests are all epic by themselves and there are a ton of them. Each one is expansive, with different approaches available. These are not the simple and straightforward "Go fetch my Slippers of Warmth +5" style quests that made up a majority of the first game.

The combat is much improved. Now there is a lot more strategic depth to the combat, especially when fighting against mages as you have to use your own spells to strip away the layers of protections before you can eventually take the mages out. Even without mages, the combat can be especially brutal as you get to take on some truly classic D&D monsters that were ignored in the first game. Mind flayers, demons, elementals, drow, golems, beholders, giants, and even a few screen-filling dragons will thwart your loot and experience-filled dreams. Using your spells and abilities and items to their fullest potential will be required to best many of these threats.

Like the first, BG2 is an isometric RPG. It plays out in real-time, however you can pause the action to queue up orders to your party so it proceeds as fast or as slow as you wish. You pick your race, class, gender, and your outlook on life (alignment - from hippy, goody two-shoes all the way to baby-punching, puppy-kicking, evil douchebag). There're a lot more races and classes to pick from than in BG1 (many of which I have not tried and will, undoubtedly never, ever try...). You can have a party of up to six adventurers, your main character plus five other characters that you can recruit along the way, each with their own quests, personalities, and back stories to further enhance your experience. There are fewer characters in BG2 than in BG1, but there is much more depth to them this time around. You'll come to like and prefer certain characters over others and all of them have their own niches and uses in the game.

The story of BG2 is easy to follow, even if you haven't played the first. The game drops enough hints and references to keep even the noobiest noob up to date. At the beginning of BG2, you get nabbed by some mysterious figures, sealed away in a dungeon, and experimented upon by some evil mage. During the experiments, some other group attacks the mage and you manage to free yourself. Once you escape from his dungeon, the game opens up in true Bioware fashion and you are given a relatively straightforward goal and multiple means to achieve it. Really, once you get topside, there is so much stuff to do. Quests involving slaver cartels, thief guilds, mysterious cults, castles under siege all literally jump right into your lap. Some of the quests sit out in the open, just waiting for you to nab them and others are more hidden and you will need to search around to find them. From there, the game will take you on an epic journey from the grimy streets of Athkatla (think typical high-fantasy medieval city) to blood-soaked vampire dens, demi-plane prisons, ancient elven cities, the depths of the Underdark, and even to the very demon-infested heart of the Abyss as well.

Most of the dialogue is presented as text, however, the little voice acting that is in the game is excellent. British B-Lister (C-Lister?) David Warner (of Time Bandits, Star Trek V and VI and numerous other films) voices the main villain and he is awesome. He is the true standout here as he takes what few lines he has and makes them shine. Only Tony Jay, who played the 'villain' in Planescape: Torment, has managed to deliver a better performance than Warner.

Special mention must be made of the games graphics. BG2 uses the Infinity Engine which, in its heyday, was goddamn beautiful. It utilized hand drawn 2D backgrounds but BG2 spruces them up with some 3D effects to jazz up the spells, backgrounds, and character models and almost everything looked like a work of art. There is a reason that Project Eternity is using the same approach of overlaying 2D artwork over 3D backgrounds.

So that's it. My favorite game ever.  I love it because there is so much to do in the game, so many quests, so many different approaches to take (some of which I still haven't done), the combat is a lot of fun, the story is great, the graphics hold up incredibly well despite the game being almost fifteen years old, and it's got that nostalgia factor going for it too. Will some other game ever come along to dethrone this? I don't know, but considering my gradually lessening gameplaying time, I seriously doubt it. I'll likely still pull this one out every so often when I want to 'relive' the classic, but I don't know if I'll ever have the time or will to put another game through the same ringer. This game might be here in the number one spot for the foreseeable future, but you know what? I can live with that.

Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn comes with the highest recommendations I can offer. Anyone and everyone should play this game but especially those for whom a d20 is an intense aphrodisiac, David Warner fanboys, and any who find the 2e Monstrous Manual to be their preferred bathroom reading material.

Special Mention should go out to Throne of Bhaal, the expansion pack for the game. Unlike with StarCraft and Broodwar, which I usually bundle together as one, singular whole, Throne of Bhaal and Baldur's Gate 2 I tend to hold separate. This is mainly because the 'story' of Baldur's Gate 2 is finished by the end of the game and Throne of Bhaal starts up a new storyline. I think Throne of Bhaal is an essential part of the Baldur's Gate series, anyone who is a fan of the first two should definitely play Throne of Bhaal as it finishes off the overarching storyline of the series and it's pretty damn epic as well. However, it is not perfect. It is significantly more difficult than BG2 and BG2 is not an easy game. Every fight becomes a drawn out, life-or-death struggle where victory is grasped by the barest of threads. That does lead to some truly epic encounters but it can be a bit tiring after a while and it means the more epic battles stand out less.

Also, by the end of BG2 your characters become so absurdly powerful that if defies belief that once Throne of Bhaal starts up, you continually encounter other creatures, organizations, and individuals on the same power level as yourself. It makes your accomplishments in the previous game seem so... hollow and meager by comparison.

So, in conclusion, I think Throne of Bhaal is a very good finale for the series and a good game in its own right, but BG2 is better on it's own, in my opinion at least.

(http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/BG2/14.jpg) (http://static.gog.com/upload/images/2010/11/6a85cf232867997105aa940b22cc90dff28c2d62.jpg)
(http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/iCd3aqxL/full/baldur-s-gate-ii-soa-dace-s-tomb.jpg) (http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/uncategorized/topten/dungeonsanddragonsgames/baldursgate2.jpg)

So that's it. That's my favorite 25 games. It was an interesting trip down memory lane and pretty much every one of these entries that, when I was writing them out, made me want to go back and replay the game. I actually started up quite a few and played for a couple of days after writing out their respective entries. Bioshock, The Legend of Zelda, Doom (well Brutal Doom actually), Deus Ex, X-Com, Super Mario World, UT, and Skyrim all saw a not insignificant amount of play time. As for BG2? Well, I'm pretty much always in the process of replaying that game.

Hope you all enjoyed my longwinded ramblings. If any of you happen to pick up any of these games and enjoy them because of this list, then I've done my job. :)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Outcrier on November 20, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
Yep, knew this would appear.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 20, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
I guess one of these two games will appear: Baldur's Gate II or Diablo II
Congrats to Outcrier for guessing my number one favoritest game ever! Enjoy your reward of cookies! Glorious, polyhedral cookies. (http://epicfail.xepher.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/d20-cookies.jpg)

This is one of two older RPG/FPS games I've been meaning to get around to playing for what seems like an eternity. Yet, I still haven't because I'm really fucking lazy. :lol

The other is System Shock 2.
System Shock 2 is one of the best games that I cannot play. It's just too fucking scary and I'm awful at playing scary games. The little I've played is very, very good but... agh, just my own little personal gamer failing. One day I'll play it again... and it will be during the daytime... with all of the lights on and nobody else will be home so they won't hear my pathetic gibberings.

Here are a couple of random links that I intended to put into the respective entries but either I forgot to do it or I just couldn't be arsed to find a way to include them.

I talked about how Deus Ex had some gloriously bad voice acting, well, here's a bit of it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihGm4KfY7k). It may not be Resident Evil bad but it's still pretty awful.

On the other side of the coin, in the BG2 entry I talked about some great voice acting in games and I mentioned one Tony Jay, who plays one of the characters in Planescape: Torment. Here's a bit from one of the cooler sequences in the game. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZAIFQH4fM) Warning, it does contains some spoilers, so if you're interested in playing Planescape: Torment sometime, I wouldn't watch it. But if you're not, then what the hell, watch it and revel in Tony Jay's badassness.

EDITED:
Yep, knew this would appear.
I am nothing if not predictable! :)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Big Hath on November 21, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
British B-Lister (C-Lister?) David Warner (of Time Bandits, Star Trek V and VI and numerous other films TRON) voices the main villain and he is awesome.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: ReaperKK on November 21, 2014, 11:11:20 AM
I have never played BG, I really wanted to but I just don't have the time.

I loved the list though, I need to try some of the games that I haven't played because everything else on your list has been on point.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19)
Post by: Sacul on November 21, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
I loved the list though, I need to try some of the games that I haven't played because everything else on your list has been on point.
This. Lots of games on my to-play list are on your top, and that makes yours awesome. Great list dude :hefdaddy .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19-23)
Post by: Cool Chris on November 21, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
British B-Lister (C-Lister?) David Warner (of Time Bandits, Star Trek V and VI and numerous other films) voices the main villain and he is awesome.

David Warner may not be an A-List actor in the states, but he is a top notch, well-respected actor.

Hope you all enjoyed my longwinded ramblings. If any of you happen to pick up any of these games and enjoy them because of this list, then I've done my job. :)

Thank for your listings. It was a true variety for me, as it featured some of my favorite games of all time, and other games I’ve never even heard of.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19-23)
Post by: SystematicThought on November 23, 2014, 02:12:20 AM
I guess I'll start mine then. And we'll be starting off with a pretty obscure title--at least in my group of friends.

25. Stuntman
Released: June 2002
Platform: PS2, Gameboy Advance
Developer: Reflections
Publisher: Atari

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Stuntman.jpg)

The game was pretty unique at the time. I remember the day my brother bought it, I had bought Spider-Man The Game, which had come out a few months before. I was watching him play it and just watched him get frustrated with it. We were really young at the time, but even today when I play it, it's an extremely frustrating yet rewarding game when you get the scenes right.

The basic plot of the game is that you play as a new stuntman who takes on a variety of films where you have to perform the stunts for the movies. Movies include: Toothless In Wapping, a London based gangster film; A Whoopin' and a Hollerin', a Dukes of Hazard-like film; Blood Oath, a Tokyo, Jet-Li inspired movie; Conspiracy, a techno-thriller film; The Scarab of Lost Souls, like Indiana Jones; and Live Twice For Tomorrow, a James Bond parody. Each of these movies has similar stunts that need to be performed, but each scene features different cars that each handle differently.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pokQJCUTsKI/T2nbhOUf2xI/AAAAAAAAAZU/r9SjBoSL28M/s1600/stuntman1.2.jpg)

The cars are single-handedly the most frustrating part of the game. They handle sluggishly, they are slow, and sometimes don't seem like they respond to the controller very well. But that problem makes the game very rewarding all things considered because when you master the stunts and the scenes, you really feel like you accomplished something. Take for instance a scene in the second movie. You drive a General Lee like car and have to drive it off a bridge and onto a moving train, ride on that for a while, and then off the train into a tight parking lot back onto the train tracks to avoid two oncoming trains. It may sound confusing, but when you are performing those stunts in a row with the director calling out the stunts going at high speeds, it's a lot to process. It was basically Driver controls and graphics with a director yelling at you.

One of my favorite aspects of the game was the Stunt Creator, which gave you the cars from the movies as well as a few bonus cars, all kinds of stunt items like the 360 ramp, flaming hoops and banks of buses--a regular old Evil Knievel setup. I would spend hours playing around with this and would create different setups. I would also just spend time destroying the cars as I saw fit--they damaged quite nicely as you could lose the tires, doors, engine, etc.

I think nostalgia is the biggest thing with this game. It wasn't FANTASTIC by any means, but I have very fond memories of it. Passing the controller around with my brother as we both got frustrated with it--these memories make me smile. After each movie was completed, they had a trailer made for the movie with scenes interspersed with the stunts you filmed. The trailers were pretty good, but the implementation of the scenes was poorly done, but that was part of it's charm.

In 2007 or 2008, THQ released a sequel for the game where the sluggishness was corrected and there was more to do, but for me, it didn't play the part very well--Part of Stuntman's charm was the sluggishness and toughness and that's why it will forever be one of my favorite PS2 games.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E0fo34FuSHo/TSm8GDOaaAI/AAAAAAAAAjI/u3MAfvJ_f04/s1600/chase+5.jpg)

Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPrODqp6esY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPrODqp6esY) (Oh, and the load times were ridiculous  :lol)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19-23)
Post by: ariich on November 23, 2014, 03:28:44 AM
Never heard of it. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. The King in Crimson's time to rule (pg. 19-23)
Post by: Bolsters on November 23, 2014, 03:56:06 AM
This sounds familiar, I think I might have played it once or twice back in the day.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: ReaperKK on November 23, 2014, 07:14:04 AM
I heard of it but never played it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 24, 2014, 11:16:09 AM
It's not the type of game I normally play, but I really enjoyed Stuntman.  Good times.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: SystematicThought on November 24, 2014, 05:37:52 PM
Not surprised at the lack of recognition. Like I said, I think it was one of those titles that you picked up when it came out and that was that--no one five years later was going to say: "Hey! Did you ever play Stuntman?"  :lol

Next update is coming tonight!

It's not the type of game I normally play, but I really enjoyed Stuntman.  Good times.
Glad at least one person know what it was  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: SystematicThought on November 25, 2014, 01:57:14 AM
24. XIII
Released November 2003
Platforms: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 2, GameCube, Xbox, OS X
Developer: Ubi Soft
Publisher: Ubi Soft

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5108V94QFNL.jpg)

I believe that this game made another appearance on someone else's list. For me, this is another game, similar to Stuntman, that was both frustrating at times (the stealth missions) and very rewarding at the same time. I remember buying the game in 2003 and not beating it until maybe 2009. I remember playing it and not beating it and forgetting about it and finally coming back to it and I'm glad I did because I was able to understand the storyline better compared to when I was 9 and had my parent's buy it for me. I didn't really understand the story behind it.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/XIII_game.jpg)

XIII is a cel-shaded FPS game made by Ubi-Soft based on the comic book series. The story revolves around an amnesiac who awakes on a beach with the number XIII tattooed on his chest. He finds himself tangled up in a political conspiracy with him being framed for assassinating the President of the United States. He must find his identity and solve the conspiracy. The story for me is the most intriguing element as I was always wondering what was coming next. My personal favorite mission is the one where you must infiltrate a mansion that is the location of a secret meeting between members of the conspiracy. That's where things start coming together for the story and things start making sense, as well as the mystique of the members known as the XX wearing KKK-like white robes. That mission always stuck with me.

(http://www.entertainmentfuse.com/images/193269-xiii_1_super.png)

The game was just a unique experience where I got caught up in the story, characters, and background of the game. I really wanted to uncover the conspiracy. Of course one of the most frustrating elements of the game is the fact that it ended in a cliffhanger which ultimately will never be continued. Which is a shame because it would have been fun to continue, I mean, the last line of the game is: "Are the fireworks not to your liking, Mr. Fly?" followed by a little note saying: "To Be Continued..." Dammit Ubi Soft!

But overall, it's another nostalgia trip for me and it's an FPS with an interesting story that isn't just a shoot-em up. There are stealth elements, little platforming puzzles, and documents and notes to collect that give some background. The music gives the game it's own style with funky, jazz, techno music filling the atmosphere. The triptych screens that pop up when you do a head shot or the onomatopoeia that pops up on screen for explosions really gave the game a unique feel and vibe that I hadn't experienced before. Overall too, it's a difficult game (for me at least)

If you like older consoles games and haven't played XIII, check it out! I think it's worth a look
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Lynxo on November 25, 2014, 02:53:30 AM
I've been meaning to get that for my PS2, I've seen good things about it. :tup It's really cheap as well.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Scorpion on November 30, 2014, 10:15:28 AM
Love that game. One of my favourite first-person shooters of all time.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: SystematicThought on December 01, 2014, 12:34:19 AM
I've been meaning to get that for my PS2, I've seen good things about it. :tup It's really cheap as well.
Definitely worth checking out. It's got its own style that I haven't seen in many games. It took the FPS genre and gave it a unique spin. And Adam West does the voice of a character--enough said

Love that game. One of my favourite first-person shooters of all time.
Talking about it again makes me want to play it again  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: SystematicThought on December 08, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Since I've missed quite a few days and holding this up, I'll throw a few out there today with no/little description

23. Disaster Report
Released: April 2002
Platform: PS2
Developer: Irem
Publisher: Irem

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/Disaster_Report_Coverart.png)
Interesting post disaster plot and world. A lot of issues, but unique.

22. The Getaway
Released: December 2002
Platform: PS2
Developer: Team SoHo
Publisher: SCEA

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/The_Getaway_PS2.jpg)
Different take on GTA. No HUD mechanic was interesting but poorly executed. Good story and graphics for the time. And London was an interesting playground to play in

21. Goldeneye
Released: August 1997
Platform: N64
Developer: Rare
Publisher: Nintendo
 

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/3/36/20121006233621!GoldenEye007box.jpg)
Does this need an explanation?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 08, 2014, 10:48:39 PM
The only one of those I know is of course Goldeneye. No explanation needed at all. Classic. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 09, 2014, 03:52:22 AM
Goldeneye is legendary
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: cramx3 on December 09, 2014, 06:30:31 AM
First game on your list that I am familiar with and yea, no explanation needed for Goldeneye.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: ariich on December 09, 2014, 07:43:36 AM
Goldeneye is definitely a classic - not played or even heard of the others though!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Chino on December 09, 2014, 08:11:32 AM
Goldeneye redefined multiplayer gaming.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: ReaperKK on December 09, 2014, 09:54:31 AM
Goldeneye is an incredible game. I have my n64 still set up for Goldeneye and Mario Kart 64.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on December 09, 2014, 10:21:39 AM
Does this need an explanation?

Not in the slightest. Fantastic game.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on January 11, 2015, 09:56:09 PM
what happened to this thread? i rather enjoyed the write-ups of the games. It made me nostalgic for games I love, and want to check out games I hadn't played before.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 11, 2015, 09:58:29 PM
Apparently, SystematicThought has amnesia  :P
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: SystematicThought on January 11, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Oh God and I said I wouldn't do this to you guys...

I'll finish up my list tomorrow. Sorry guys! And I didn't think there was much interest in my lists  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 11, 2015, 10:55:13 PM
Oh God and I said I wouldn't do this to you guys...

I'll finish up my list tomorrow. Sorry guys! And I didn't think there was much interest in my lists  :lol

If you didn't wanted to do your list anymore, you should have said then because there was a bunch of people waiting to do their own ones.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: SystematicThought on January 12, 2015, 12:01:08 AM
It's not that I didn't want to, I just have random games that not many people know of also I ended up getting busier than I thought I would have. Yeah, I probably should have said to move onto the next person, but I ended up not being on here much.

However, I am saying it now. Move on to Sacul, I just don't have the time to do the lists. Sorry to those on the list that had to wait because of me. I do really apologize, I never envisioned it taking this long. Maybe I'll finish it some other time.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 12, 2015, 12:27:16 AM
Seems like it'd make sense to just do something like this:

1. If someone stalls the thread for a week, then the next member gets to start their list. The person who stalled the thread can resume once the other person is done.

2. If someone who took over for a stalling person then stalls the thread themselves, it just reverts to the original person. If that person isn't available, a new person can start.

3. Maybe we should go with a smaller number like 10 or 15 games per list if 25 is too daunting for busy folks.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 12, 2015, 12:44:59 AM
I think 25 is fine IF it's two or more games per post (save some exceptions like when reaching the end of the list), the same way Systematic was doing.
Just one game takes the same time as a top 50 games/2 per post, which is what we were trying to avoid within this thread.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Lynxo on January 12, 2015, 02:12:41 AM
Can't the next person get going?! I love reading these kind of lists! :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 13, 2015, 09:50:48 AM
Sacul is next but i don't know if he's still up for it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Cool Chris on January 13, 2015, 10:46:06 AM
I will chime in that one post per day drags on these 'Top XX' threads to the point that I lose interest pretty quickly. I know that is a personal issue, but just sayin'.

Also thought I said this, but maybe I did not. I hated the Goldeneye 64 multiplayer mode, only because I always got my ass handed to me. But that is par for the course with multiplayer FPS games. The first person mode could be an all time top 10 game for me. I loved how each mission was unique and had specific objectives. And how closely it followed the movie, which I was a huge fan of.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Sacul on January 13, 2015, 12:06:07 PM
Damn, also forgot about this. I'm currently busy with English school homework and with the final of my roulette, and using just a smartphone (this site need Tapatalk BTW), but if the school can lend me their computers during the afternoon, I can start in the following days. The list is ready and wouldn't change it that much now, so I would just have to take some time for the write-ups. Will let you know tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 13, 2015, 12:43:36 PM
No problem. If you feel you won't have the time to do it, you can just pass it to jingle boy or myself since jingle boy isn't active since December.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on January 13, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
I know it's gonna be a (very) long wait, but I'd love to get on the list for this if I could.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Lynxo on January 14, 2015, 06:34:55 AM
Or you know, let me jump ahead of everybody else. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: cramx3 on January 14, 2015, 07:56:38 AM
How about the first person to post a start to a list gets to go?  This is kind of ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: ReaperKK on January 14, 2015, 08:00:24 AM
I do it if I wasn't going to Costa Rica in a week and a half
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Randaran on January 14, 2015, 08:02:57 AM
I would do it, but I have not finished my write-ups yet.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Lynxo on January 14, 2015, 08:05:44 AM
Maybe I'll write up something when I get home, if someone haven't beat me to the punch by then. :)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Sacul on January 14, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
I could borrow a PC from the school, but just for a while before they close, so it would be too complicated for me, cause I want to take time making the write-ups and designing the posts. Outcrier, you can begin now.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 14, 2015, 02:52:28 PM
Ok, i will start it soon  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 14, 2015, 09:50:53 PM
Ok guys, here comes The Golden Age:

25. QuackShot starring Donald Duck (1991)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/9/5/8/47958_front.jpg)

(http://www.techmynd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/quack-shot-8.jpg)
Damn creative, huh?

An overlooked Sega Genesis gem, QuackShot is a Donald Duck sidescroller that only i played. Jokes aside, this isn't a case of personal guilty pleasure.
Story? Pretty basic: Donald goes on a journey in search of an hidden treasure. Graphics and music, pretty nice (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNgZrh10klM). What really makes this game standout, though, is that isn't just a simple sidescroller. It features nonlinearity and the need of specific items, which means you have to revisit some places again with your new weapon upgrades or key items so you can make progress. Even your own weapon, a gun that shoot plungers (yeah :lol), can be used as platform later as you get an upgrade that makes them stick on the wall.
So, basically, QuackShot is like a Metroidvania with levels, featuring Donald Duck. Priceless.

24. Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back (1997)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/5/7/0/2570_front.jpg)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RMFDYkd0f1E/maxresdefault.jpg)
Jet pack, bitches.

While the original Crash Bandicoot was a good game imo, the sequel was a huge improvement. The controls, one of the things who dragged down the first game, feels much more responsible and better overall, new moves such as crouch and belly flop, even greater graphics and attention to details, Crash don't look as goofy as before, optional level paths and, well, everything just seems more polished. Another nice addition was the Warp Room, which opened more possibilities such as doing the levels in any order you want and new thematic stages (space and sewers, to say a few). 
Yeah, it isn't nearly difficult as it's predecessor (especially to fully complete) but, for me, isn't only difficulty that makes a game. In this case, i think it made Crash even more acessible and enjoyable than before. 
Congrats, Naughty Dog, that's how you make a sequel :clap:
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Nick on January 14, 2015, 10:16:22 PM
Ah, fond memories of the Bandicoot series.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: ariich on January 15, 2015, 04:58:15 AM
Hell yes Crash 2. Awesome game!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Lynxo on January 15, 2015, 05:30:27 AM
Two solid choices.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: cramx3 on January 15, 2015, 06:03:21 AM
A good ole Crash Bandicoot, I dont recall playing the second, only the first.

And I recall playing a Donald Duck game when I was younger, but can't recall if that was it.  I would have never remembered that if you didnt post that game as it triggered a really old childhood memory.  It was definitely a Sega game too so maybe that was it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Outcrier on January 15, 2015, 07:02:38 AM
And I recall playing a Donald Duck game when I was younger, but can't recall if that was it.  I would have never remembered that if you didnt post that game as it triggered a really old childhood memory.  It was definitely a Sega game too so maybe that was it.

If not this QuackShot, probably Donald in Maui Mallard.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. SystematicThought's obscure stuff (pg. 24)
Post by: Evermind on January 15, 2015, 11:41:15 AM
And I recall playing a Donald Duck game when I was younger, but can't recall if that was it.  I would have never remembered that if you didnt post that game as it triggered a really old childhood memory.  It was definitely a Sega game too so maybe that was it.

If not this QuackShot, probably Donald in Maui Mallard.

This one actually was awesome, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 15, 2015, 12:50:18 PM
Off to a rollicking good start out the gate.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 17, 2015, 07:05:54 AM
Ah, the version title can be something like this: Outcrier's Golden Age (since most of the games on my list are from what i think is the golden age of gaming).

If not this QuackShot, probably Donald in Maui Mallard.

This one actually was awesome, in my opinion.

I played a bit of Maiu Mallard back in the day but never got too far into that game (probably couldn't pass some section).

Two solid choices.  :tup
Off to a rollicking good start out the gate.

Tnx, it gets even better or no

23. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (1994)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/1/1/2/48112_front.jpg)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/screens/d/2/9/gfs_46788_2_13.jpg)
The one and only Barrel of Doom.

Back in the day, Sonic was the first game franchise that i adored. That strange mix of platformer and going fast instantly captivated me and Sega couldn't do no wrong when it came to main Sonic titles from that era. Looking now, i think that Sega always improved them with each new iteration and that's why Sonic 3 always was one of my favorites.
For starters, the levels are much larger and detailed than ever. You may cross lots of hidden passages and replaybility is secured due to the many different paths you can finish the levels. There is a new "minigame" where you catch a certain amount of blue spheres while avoiding the red ones, all in order to get the Chaos Emeralds (which, when reunited, can transform you into Super Sonic). Also, you have a new upgrades in form of shields that can protect you against things such as fire and water, sub-bosses, the best Sonic storyline, Knuckles introduction, yeah, lots of new stuff added overall.
Last but not least, the music. Like any early Sonic game, the soundtrack has some of the best music Genesis has to offer.
You have the famous Ice Cap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxlqTpZ-24), some downright freakin cool tunes such as Hidrocity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1rV9kFs6I) and Marble Garden (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qw10LYqye4) and even some little contributions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtTlmi7ukIE) by Michael Jackson himself  :hat

Fun fact: This game is one year younger than me. I'm getting old  :blush

22. Dark Souls II (2014)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/6/1/3/259613_front.jpg)

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/792942789483306644/68D4517B54E726219CFCB24469C65742C25B4FFD/)
Approaching Castlevania.

After finally experiencing Dark Souls last year, i understood the praise it garnered. Games that dare to present something different than the casualized, hand-holding gameplay you often see today are quite rare. That and the fact of being a fucking great game made my a fan of the series.
Thing is, the PC version had a major problem: how much poor the PC port was handled. I run into nuisances such as FPS drops, screen tearing and even had to download a unnoficial fix to be able to change the resolution. Fortunately, not much time after i finished DS, the sequel was released and, finally, everything was in it's right place.
For me, Dark Souls II felt like an extension to DS. Sure, it isn't as memorable but compensates that by featuring good optimization and no big nuisances. Even so, i don't think it is so far away of being as good as the first DS (these improvements in performance actually made me enjoy playing it even more than before).
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Randaran on January 17, 2015, 08:00:06 AM
Of the Souls series, I have only played Demon's Souls. Love this series.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 17, 2015, 08:02:47 AM
S3 alone would be my least favourite of the classic Sonics (but I love them all!), with the as originally intended S3+K being a better more rounded package. Still, I found the level design a bit cheap (spikes etc) compared to the earlier games. I consider S3+K to be the most technically impressive game in the series, and objectively the "best", but S2 will always be my personal favourite. :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 17, 2015, 08:33:30 AM
Of the Souls series, I have only played Demon's Souls. Love this series.  :tup

Wish i could play it but it's a PS3 exclusive :-\

S3 alone would be my least favourite of the classic Sonics (but I love them all!), with the as originally intended S3+K being a better more rounded package. Still, I found the level design a bit cheap (spikes etc) compared to the earlier games. I consider S3+K to be the most technically impressive game in the series, and objectively the "best", but S2 will always be my personal favourite. :tup

Yeah, i think S3+K is the best too but that is something i will talk about later in this list.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: j on January 17, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Of the Souls series, I have only played Demon's Souls. Love this series.  :tup

Wish i could play it but it's a PS3 exclusive :-\

Demon's Souls is great but both Dark Souls games are far superior IMO.  The atmosphere and environments are awesome and there are some things to like about some of the gameplay elements, but there are quite a few issues that were corrected in the sequels.  I don't have time to play too many video games anymore, but these games are some of the best I've played in years.

-J
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: black_biff_stadler on January 17, 2015, 11:34:07 AM
Sonic 2 and 3 are so fuckin choice. My fondest memories of 3 are getting the dirt cheap Genesis 3 for the low, low price of $30 (brand new!) back in 1999, buying this game to go with it, and playing it shitfaced off of Bud Ice since I'd usually get a 12er on payday but since I was 17 I had to drink as much as I could or else I'd have to drink the rest warm because at that age there was no way in hell I could get away with keeping it in the fridge so the leftovers would be kept under my bed.

(http://www.jwnyc.com/games/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/genesis301.jpg)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 18, 2015, 01:40:50 AM
Sonic 2 is my favourite but any Sonic is good Sonic he's so effing kewl.  That Dark Souls looks awesome tho.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 18, 2015, 10:06:14 AM
If I could only play five games the rest of my life, there is a possibility that Demon Souls, Dark Souls, and Dark Souls 2 are all on that list.  Not saying they would all make my top 5, but there is a lot of content and replayability in them.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 19, 2015, 05:45:37 PM
This time, some "cult" classics:

21. Okami (2006)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/8/8/7/59887_front.jpg)

(http://wallpaperus.org/wallpapers/03/108/okami-1920x1080-wallpaper-1634304.jpg)
Makes for some nice wallpapers.

Like ICO and Shadow of Colossus before it, Okami was a pleasant surprise for gamers that loved art and visual styles. It utilizes something similar to the japanese watercolor paintings, translated to game through cel-shading. It's simply the most unique PS2 graphics i've ever seen, transcendental.
The story borrows from Japanese folklore. Basically, you control Amaterasu, a god in the form of a wolf that is called to save Japan from the darkness brought by Orochi, a legendary eight headed serpent. While a basic premise, it soon turns into an epic journey across the world in where you meet many other myths and legends.
The game plays pretty similarly to a series that always was a reference: the Zelda series. You travel around the world, get clues talking to folks, clear dungeons... sounds familiar, eh? But, to differentiate, you have the unique Celestial Brush mechanic, where you stop time by holding the shoulder button to paint symbols onto the screen, each one representing a move. There are tons of symbols you learn during your journey that you can use in the environment and in battle, some of the most simple being a straight line that cut things and drawing a Q, which creates a bomb. Also, notice how this mechanic complements the "painting" visuals of the game.
Music is classical Japanese done with traditional instruments, very fitting though i'm no expert.
As a whole, i think Okami excels at every department. From story to music, everything perfectly complements each other so well, making for a unforgettable experience.

20. Xenogears (1998)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/0/6/6/9066_front.jpg)

(http://lparchive.org/Xenogears-(by-The-Dark-Id)/Update%2073/1-whathappenedtoyourface34.jpg)
This is what i call a "tight" battle.

Xenogears is the first entry in the Xeno series, which spawned games such as Xenosaga and, more recently, Xenoblade Chronicles.
It started as a potential script to Final Fantasy 7 but Square refused, claiming the story was too much complicated for a series so popular. Instead, they let the script be used into the making of a new game.
Sure, the story IS complicated, delving in themes such as philosophy, psychology and theology, but it's some of the best ever told in gaming. I think it is pretty equiparable to the Legend of the Galactic Heroes anime in how both have complex themes and so many well written characters.
It starts pretty simple: a young man named Fei lives peacefully in a pacific village. One day, two conflicting forces, in the midst of battle, end up into his village unintentionally, ensuring chaos. Fei, in order to protect his people, try piloting a Gear (akin to a mecha robot) that is unoccupied. He ends up losing control and destroying everything. With no place to call home, he decides to move on, as the few people left alive don't want his presence anymore.
From there, you can't even imagine what is waiting you.

Now, into the gameplay, the most interesting thing is how it changes depending of two circumstances: if you are using the characters or the Gears. Some dungeons are obrigatory using only one of them, others no, you may either enter or left the Gears at will (though isn't wise not using then in areas where the enemies are giants in comparison to humans).
There's two battle systems. The basic attacks consists of you pressing X, square or triangle and making combinations that results in "Deathblows"(special combos) but, the other options differ, depending on the same circumstances i talked about earlier. For characters, you can store AP, allowing various combos at once. For Gears, you can increase your Attack Level by charging (enabling more powerful attacks) or using the "Booster" command, which makes your Gear faster but consume much more fuel than usual. Run out of fuel and you're practically disabled.
When people talk about Yasunori Mitsuda (the music composer), everyone is quick to say Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are his best works. I think Xenogears OST is in the same level, these being some evidence: Bonds of Sea and Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFbVhFlqt3k), Omen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhWuriX9Ws), Shevat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQ6PeyzxDk), Ship of Regret and Sleep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywuVJ_jEIU), Gathering Stars in the Night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu6MIX0OVVk)
 
Personally, the thing that drags down Xenogears is, rarely i will replay a game so long and with a scope like this instead of playing something new and that is the reason i put it in this position. Instead, i would love to see an anime adaption or a remake to experience it again in a different way.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 21, 2015, 01:17:48 AM
19. Chrono Trigger (1995)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/3/0/2/20302_front.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VvemV6xFpKM/Tb23vG6GqSI/AAAAAAAAAhQ/k4bRX6FiYa8/s1600/Chrono+Trigger+Screenshot.jpg)

Not much to say about this one that hasn't already been said. Best RPG ever. Top 10 games of all times. These are some of the "accolades" Chrono Trigger gets and well deservedly since it pretty much excels at everything.
But, if i were to pick my favorite aspects of the game, i would say the presentation, which elevates something that appears simple to higher heights and the legendary soundtrack, composed by two of the best in the industry, Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuo Uematsu.
Still, when it comes to Chrono Trigger, it's been ages since the last time i've played it and never did how it was supposed to be: with a controller and without the "luxuries" of an emulator. Once i do that, i can definitely see this making my top 10.

18. Heart of Darkness (1998)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/4/4/8/448_front.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9N5OPUN.jpg)
There goes my childhood.

An overlooked Playstation gem, Heart of Darkness is a side-scrolling platformer that only i played  :neverusethis:

It tells the story of a boy named Andy who goes on an adventure to rescue his dog from the hands of some alien monsters. Yeah, the story is pretty silly and nothing to write home about but, in the end, it doesn't matter much in this case (saying why would spoil it).
Sort of a spiritual successor to a SNES game called Another World/Out of This World, Heart of Darkness plays similarly to this one i mentioned and the Oddworld series, in a sense that you have to pay attention and use the environments to make progress.
Per example, in this world where the monsters habit, all shadows have proper life. Often you need to move an object to places where it doesn't cast a shadow in order to prevent them from attacking you or use your own to reach something out of range.
Also, you can attack, jump, climb and do other things in order to pass through enemies/obstacles. Dying doesn't matter much since you go back to the same screen and have unlimited tries.
In fact, the most well know thing about this game is how disturbing the deaths (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYyZfME5XYY) are, especially for being E-Rated. The main character, just a innocent kid, gets crushed, eaten and incinerated, just to say a few.
The only real downside about Heart of Darkness is the short duration but, at least, it's very fun while it lasts  ;)
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 21, 2015, 01:31:55 AM
Fuck, Heart of Darkness!!  That shit was so hard hahaha.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ariich on January 21, 2015, 02:12:42 AM
I remember Heart of Darkness! I think I only played a demo of it though, but that was definitely the era when I was really into games so I remember a lot of the random stuff that got released even if I never played it.

Still haven't played Chrono Trigger, but I will do soon!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lynxo on January 21, 2015, 03:43:31 AM
Okami! I really, really, really need to play it proper sometime. I love the concept and the art style.

The same can be said for Heart of Darkness - I need to give it a real go!

Still haven't played Chrono Trigger, but I will do soon!
DO IT! That's like the best RPG of all time. OF! ALL! TIME!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on January 21, 2015, 08:15:56 AM
DO IT! That's like the best RPG of all time. OF! ALL! TIME!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 21, 2015, 09:52:55 AM
Fuck, Heart of Darkness!!  That shit was so hard hahaha.

The last levels can be a pain in the ass, especially in Hard difficulty.

I remember Heart of Darkness! I think I only played a demo of it though, but that was definitely the era when I was really into games so I remember a lot of the random stuff that got released even if I never played it.

Nice that some people still remember it, i'm not alone after all :laugh:

Okami! I really, really, really need to play it proper sometime. I love the concept and the art style.

The same can be said for Heart of Darkness - I need to give it a real go!

Like i said, Heart of Darkness is pretty short so, you should have time to finish even if you're occupied.
Okami, on the other side, is more demanding. I won't rush that one.

Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Parama on January 21, 2015, 11:34:50 AM
Okami is fantastic, one of my favorite games. And I *have* heard of heart of darkness, just never played it myself, might check it out at some point though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 21, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
I couldn't even get past the first few screens of HOD it was extremely difficult for 12 year old me. 
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Sacul on January 21, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
I do love Okami so much - the ps3 edition is just wonderful.


Didn't finish Xenogears, but I really liked the story, although it was a bit hard to follow at times. Will finish it some day.


I think I have expressed this before, but I find CT to be ridiculously overrated. Sure it is a fun game and a good RPG, but the combat system is slow and not that creative; the story has some huge clichés and it's predictable (despite having like 10 endings). Couldn't manage to end it, just got totally bored :lol .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ReaperKK on January 21, 2015, 10:26:04 PM
Just catching up and there are some real classics on there like sonic and crash. Great list so far!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 22, 2015, 01:48:12 AM
17. Final Fantasy X (2001)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/6/6/9/3669_front.jpg)

(http://www.sarahfobes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/600full-final-fantasy-x-screenshot.jpg)
The CTB (Conditional Turn Based) battle system.

Final Fantasy X was released in 2001 for the Playstation 2, a time where i was still playing Sega Genesis and Playstation games.
Near a decade later, me, late to the party again, finally got a PS2 and FFX here was the first RPG i experienced from that generation.
First thing i noticed: Voice acting in my Final Fantasy, finally! Lots of people complain about Tidus whiny voice and some bad acting, noticeably in a certain cringe worthy moment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc) but, due to being the first time a FF featured voices, i didn't mind and thought it wasn't so bad.
FFX introduced some other things, one of them being my favorite leveling system in the series, the Sphere Grid.
When you level up, you gain Sphere LVLs, which you can use to move through this huge grid and access "orbs" that increase your stats. Each characters start in special portions that corresponds to their class but, later in the game, you may use special spheres that can make you warp to where you want or open locked areas. Believe me, it's fucking addictive.
This time around, Nobuo Uematsu composed the music with the assistance of Masashi Hamauzu and Junya Nakano.
While not as good as previous soundtracks, they didn't disappoint and create, yet, another great FF OST, easily in my top 5 of the series.
Some downsides are the lack of a proper world map and the linearity but, in this case, the focused story more than make up for it.

16. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (2003)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/5/4/1/52541_front.jpg)

(http://drh2.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/ubi/images/screenshots/POP_SOT_PC_3.jpg)
Parkour in gaming before it was cool.

A couple years ago, i remember borrowing some PS2 games from a friend and, along them, there was a game i never heard about called: "Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time". First, i was skeptical since i knew the earlier PoP games and it was a dead franchise by now but, whatever, i ended up trying.
Some seconds into the game, the tutorial "told me" to run through the wall. I did it and i remember thinking: "holy shit, this is fuckin' awesome". Then i continued and after passing per some obstacles, déjà vu hit me: The gameplay felt really similar to another game i loved, Heart of Darkness, in a sense of the focus being into how to progress through the levels rather than confronting enemies, all expanded in a 3D adventure game.
What i mean is, even though you face enemies, the point of the game is figuring how to traverse the areas you are be using walls, pillars, bars and everything to your advantage.
The title is a reference to a special dagger that you get early into the game, which contains the Sands of Time. You can use it to rewind time in case you die, miss a jump or whatever, another awesome mechanic. Obviously, it has limited uses but you can recharge often.
It saddens me that, with Assassin's Creed as his spiritual successor, Prince of Persia kinda got forgotten and may never get another entry anymore.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lynxo on January 22, 2015, 07:02:59 AM
I played the shit out of FFX - the battle system still remains my favorite.  :metal Unlike some people, I do really like the story. Though maybe not the voice acting AT ALL. I mean, most are all right to bad-ass (Auron, FUCK YEAH) but the two lead characters...EEESH!  :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 22, 2015, 01:55:03 PM
Just catching up and there are some real classics on there like sonic and crash. Great list so far!

Thanks, i'm not finished with these.

I played the shit out of FFX - the battle system still remains my favorite.  :metal Unlike some people, I do really like the story. Though maybe not the voice acting AT ALL. I mean, most are all right to bad-ass (Auron, FUCK YEAH) but the two lead characters...EEESH!  :lol

I like the battle system, reminds me of Breath of Fire IV a bit since you can have all the characters and change them at will. But, while i appreciate not having to select some party members and leave the others levels behind, it bores me having to use all of them so no one leaves without any AP.

Story and characters are fine, i didn't mention them because most know it by now.
Tidus and Yuna... I kinda got used to these two. The rest of the cast made them more bearable i guess (by the way, Auron always was my favorite. What a badass :hat).
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lynxo on January 23, 2015, 02:47:48 AM
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/Auron-auron-7276402-416-287.jpg)

 :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 23, 2015, 03:23:49 AM
Noice update there, OC
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 25, 2015, 03:04:29 AM
15. Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped (1998)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/5/8/1/2581_front.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-75uxDvCQJNw/UiIz4rOtyqI/AAAAAAAAGOo/q2yZ6ydWyxA/s1600/CB3+%25282%2529.jpg)
Shit just got real.

The last Crash Bandicoot entry on my list, Warped is the one to rule them all.
Everything that was good about the series is perfected and expanded, in ways that it kinda separates Warped from his predecessors. There are various new ideas implemented. To say a few, you pilot a jet ski, ride a tiger, drive planes, motorcycles and all through new level settings such as the Great Wall of China, old highways, the skies... You also explore different eras: Prehistoric, Medieval and the Future, per example.
Two other big additions is the gain of power-ups after defeating a boss, from double jump and holding a button to run faster to a priceless Wumpa Fruit Bazooka and a feature that enhanced the replay value, the Time Trial, where you have to complete the stages as fast as you can to gain relics, which are divided into Sapphire, the easiest one to get, Gold and Platinum, the hardest.
Even though Crash is dead nowadays (:'(), Warped will be remembered as one of the greatest platformers ever.


14. Final Fantasy IX (2000)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/6/3/4/3634_front.jpg)

(https://rpgsquare.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/final-fantasy-ix-battle.png)
Prepare to die again...

At the end of the PSX lifespan came the last Final Fantasy from that generation, Final Fantasy IX. It presented a different approach than VII and VIII. Instead of realism and hi-tech shit, IX goes back to the fantasy. Everything, from the art to the designs invoke the old traditional FFs and the game, while having some mature themes, doesn't take itself so serious (Square even used the chibi design on the characters to match the lighthearted tone).
Unlike VIII, most main characters belong to different races so, they easily stands from each other.
Some of them, like Zidane, Steiner and Vivi, are new designs of the original FF classes (in this case, thief, knight and black mage) but with a personality of their own, making them unique.
While the story sort of gets less interesting Disc 3 onward, my favorite FF sidequest compensates that: "Chocobo Hot and Cold", a treasure hunt all over the world. Simply fun and rewarding.

Some say IX is the last great Final Fantasy and, while i don't agree with them, i can understand why they think so.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Zantera on January 25, 2015, 03:08:42 AM
Had a lot of fun with Crash Bandicoot 3.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 25, 2015, 03:28:04 AM
We all had:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6562424_700b.jpg)

Damn, right in the feels  :'(
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 28, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
Sorry guys, got a bit occupied this week.

13. Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (2004)

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(http://www.gamingdragons.com/images/game_img/screenshots/pricewarrior/prince%20(7).jpg)
Taking a short cut.

Set seven years after the events of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, the Prince finds himself constantly hunted by a terrible beast known as the Dahaka. The Prince seeks counsel from an old wise man who explains that whoever releases The Sands of Time must die. Because the Prince escaped his fate, it is the Dahaka's mission as guardian of the Timeline to ensure that he dies as he was meant to. The old man also tells of the Island of Time, where the Empress of Time first created the Sands. The Prince sets sail for the Island in an attempt to prevent the Sands from ever being created, an act he believes will appease the Dahaka.

The black sheep of the Prince of Persia trilogy, Warrior Within is where all went wrong for most fans. Not for me.
The game is set in a large fortress within the Island of Time. Instead of levels, the "world" is pretty much connected, kinda like in a Metroidvania vein since you have to do some backtracking and revisiting. There is various portals scattered around that can be used to go back into the past/present, allowing you to visit the same place in a different timeline. I think this is very cool because, even if it's the same place, there is always lots of differences between them, leading to new paths.
Though the story is filled with conveniences, the past/future thing allows for some interesting twists to happen, like the Prince interacting with his own past self later in the game.
Contrary to Sands of Time, Warrior Within presents a dark tone, which kinda fits the Prince's situation (trying to escape his fated death). To match the change, the soundtrack features heavy metal a lot, enjoyable but not anything special. Also, the difficulty is considerably harder than SoT, both platform and combat wise. At least, the combat shows a huge improvement. Now, there's lots of combos, you can use the environments to your advantage, the weapons dropped by dead enemies can be temporarily used and some other things.
While many hated the game, i personally liked what was added and changed in relation to Sands of Time, surpassing it in my eyes.

12. Super Metroid (1994)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/3/2/2/51322_front.jpg)

(http://i0.wp.com/www.anatomyofgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/140303-supermetroid182.png?resize=512%2C448)
Metroid, Super Metroid.

...the "world" is pretty much connected, kinda like in a Metroidvania vein since you have to do some backtracking and revisiting.

Talking about the devil...

Super Metroid is another one of these games who are frequently cited in greatest games of all times lists and for many reasons.
First, exploration. While wandering through the areas, you find many places where you can't go. Later, with the use of new abilities/items, you can backtrack and access them. Nowadays, games who play like this are called Metroidvania. Sure, it wasn't the first to do this but Super Metroid perfected that.
Complementing the exploration, there is the amazing atmosphere/ambience, a realm which Super Metroid exceeds. While playing, you really feel alone, exploring an alien world without even imagining what's gonna happen next.
Besides the environments and graphics, the use of sounds are a big part of what makes the atmosphere what it is. I love when you know that shit gonna hit the fan just by the unsettling music.
The presentation is pretty interesting since all that happens is "told" without a single word, in a way the player must figure some things out and others are open to interpretation.
Frankly, i find pretty astounding that people made a game like Super Metroid using the limited SNES hardware because it is a monster of an achievement.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lynxo on January 28, 2015, 08:52:43 AM
There was an article in a swedish gaming magazine about the level layout of Super Metroid and why it's so awesome. It went really into detail, giving plenty of examples of excellent stage design.

And that is really what it comes down to, if you ask me. Not the amazing, creepy atmospheric music, excellent graphics or rad powerups. The levels just have that clever design that made it almost impossible to stop. And to think that it was one of the first games with that gameplay style is just astonishing to me.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 28, 2015, 11:10:20 AM
Yeah, i think the Metroidvania style is a excellent point of start but how the developers incorporated the rest into the game elevated it even more.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Randaran on January 28, 2015, 01:01:42 PM
Finally, a game I've played! Super Metroid is definately my favorite of the 2D Metroids, though I prefer the first two Prime installments (especially the first) to it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Parama on January 28, 2015, 02:16:33 PM
played Super Metroid for the first time myself recently. I appreciate that it basically set the standard for metroidvanias and it's a good game for sure but had a lot of artifacts of the retro age that remain foreign to me, i wasn't blown away by it
but i have no nostalgia for it so that could be a part of it, I still love games I have nostalgia for even when I can notice their blatant flaws
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 28, 2015, 07:13:35 PM
Finally, a game I've played! Super Metroid is definately my favorite of the 2D Metroids, though I prefer the first two Prime installments (especially the first) to it.

Well, the list isn't over ;)

played Super Metroid for the first time myself recently. I appreciate that it basically set the standard for metroidvanias and it's a good game for sure but had a lot of artifacts of the retro age that remain foreign to me, i wasn't blown away by it
but i have no nostalgia for it so that could be a part of it, I still love games I have nostalgia for even when I can notice their blatant flaws

Me too but, personally, it wasn't the case with Super Metroid (which i played for the first time during the PS2 generation).
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Post by: Sacul on January 29, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
I'd been playing the Metroid series chronologically, but my Wiimote broke down so I couldn't finish Prime 3. But liked the first one (zero mission remake) and loved Prime 2: Echoes :heart .
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on January 29, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
I grew up in the 80s playing and loving the first Metroid, so I already had nostalgia as a young lad seeing Super Metroid in 1994 in Toys R Us. Something about seeing Zebes in 16-bit, and seeing spots that were straight out of the first game really hit me when I played through it. An absolute masterpiece. One of the finest SNES game there is, probably second to only Mega Man X IMO.

On that note, I used to think the NES was the pinnacle, but the more and more I play through some of the SNES classics I didnt have growing up, the more I see how great of a system it was. The NES has it's great games too, but comparatively the same series of games are usually better on SNES. Super Metroid > Metroid. Mega Man X1-3 > Mega Man 1-6. Final Fantasy 4-6 > FF 1-3. Not to mention new games/series like Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, etc... great system just for RPGs alone.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
I played Super Metroid once last year I think, and it was a pretty good game, and clearly an influential game. Didn't find it super exciting though. No nostalgia factor to help it there like many of my other favourites from the era, and I'm not often into the shooty platformers.
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Post by: Lynxo on January 30, 2015, 12:27:54 AM
I grew up in the 80s playing and loving the first Metroid, so I already had nostalgia as a young lad seeing Super Metroid in 1994 in Toys R Us. Something about seeing Zebes in 16-bit, and seeing spots that were straight out of the first game really hit me when I played through it. An absolute masterpiece. One of the finest SNES game there is, probably second to only Mega Man X IMO.

On that note, I used to think the NES was the pinnacle, but the more and more I play through some of the SNES classics I didnt have growing up, the more I see how great of a system it was. The NES has it's great games too, but comparatively the same series of games are usually better on SNES. Super Metroid > Metroid. Mega Man X1-3 > Mega Man 1-6. Final Fantasy 4-6 > FF 1-3. Not to mention new games/series like Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, etc... great system just for RPGs alone.
Yeah, I've always been of the opinion that the SNES was the very best 2D console, the peak of that era, before 3D made its debut. And Super Metroid certainly adds to that.  :tup
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 30, 2015, 12:31:07 AM
SNES certainly has more great games than the NES.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lucien on January 30, 2015, 12:36:42 AM
I'm sort of surprised I'm not following this thread.

Okami is an amazing game on every level.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 30, 2015, 01:03:00 AM
Well, the thread was just revived some weeks ago.

As for Okami, i seriously need to replay it.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lynxo on January 30, 2015, 01:25:42 AM
Well, the thread was just revived some weeks ago.

As for Okami, i seriously need to replay it.
Me too! I need to get myself a copy of that shit!  :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on January 30, 2015, 04:09:53 AM
Entering the top 10:

11. Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005)

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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qBYv5Bkfweo/TVFmeGS1kXI/AAAAAAAAAEk/SIkFgRBD0Wg/s1600/nfs_most_wanted.jpg)
The consequences of being wanted.

Compared to what have appeared in this list so far, a racing game seems quite peculiar since i'm not so found of them but, this one is the exception.
Most Wanted, at least for me, stands as the pinnacle of the Need for Speed series. Sure, the Underground iterations were good but this took everything to another level.
The plot follows a a illegal street racer who arrives into Rockport City and get tricked by a group of racers, losing his drive. After this, the same group of racers reach the top of the Blacklist and you have no other option than climbing up through it to get your sweet revenge and become the most wanted in the process. 
The Blacklist is a list (you don't say) of the 15 most wanted racers by the Rockport PD. To be able to face a member and take his place, you have to win races and have as many bounty points as required. To get those, you need to complete some challenges, which involves my favorite thing about the game, the police chases.
At the beginning, the cops are a joke but, as you progress and the heat level increases, they get better cars and become more intelligent and ruthless.
By reaching the highest heat levels, things get pretty intense, especially with the need of evading the pursuit to complete the challenges while the cops keeps throwing reinforcements, helicopters and the rage quit inducing spike trips at you. Fuck them  >:(
Great campaign aside, the game has a good lifespan as you can make/tune lots of different cars, free roam through the memorable Rockport City or play other modes like The Challenge Series, which are quite challenging (duh :loser:).

A must for any racing fan. Still, i think Most Wanted is so good it can be appreciated even by people who aren't much into the genre.
 
10. Half-Life 2 (2004)

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(http://searchbuzz.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/half_life_2_episode_3.jpg)
Getting by with a little help from my friends.

Yep, like many in this thread, i'm another one who loves Half-Life 2.
HL2 was one of the very first games i've played which featured next-gen graphics (for the time). I remember how beautiful it was the first time you step into the streets of City 17... what an evolution compared to the original HL. Good that, the graphics were only part of the equation.
Half-Life is a franchise that goes way back to a time were first person shooters had a focus into the single player campaign. And what a fantastic campaign HL2 has. From escaping of a dystopian city or going through his canals with a hovercraft to raiding a former prison with the help of antlions, it's all so damn memorable.
But, if i have to pick my favorite segment, it's gotta be Ravenholm, where the game kinda turns, temporally, into a survival horror. Visiting a creepy town infested with zombies and traps at night was quite unexpected to say the least, in a really good way.
Joining the Crowbar, the franchise got a new iconic weapon, the Gravity Gun, simply one of the most awesome weapons i've ever used in a game. You can pick every object and use them anyway you want, either be helping you progress through the level or as "ammo". 
While Valve can't count to three, Half-Life 2 shows they certainly know how to make a sequel.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: cramx3 on January 30, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
HL2!!!  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Sacul on January 30, 2015, 02:21:59 PM
NFS:MW, had lots of fun with it :metal . Couldn't finish it 'cause the last races were fucking difficult, but never got bored of it. So sad the remake is awful.
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Post by: ReaperKK on January 30, 2015, 02:28:29 PM
I love HL2, I need to find the time to replay it again.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on January 30, 2015, 02:58:09 PM
Absolutely LOVE half life 2.

2nd favorite game ever made, behind FF 7
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Post by: Outcrier on January 31, 2015, 10:00:51 AM
NFS:MW, had lots of fun with it :metal . Couldn't finish it 'cause the last races were fucking difficult, but never got bored of it. So sad the remake is awful.

Really? I thought the hardest part of the campaign was the final cop challenges.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: orcus116 on January 31, 2015, 12:32:25 PM
HL2 only at 10?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on February 02, 2015, 09:13:19 PM
9. God of War (2005)

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Ares sending Kratos his regards.

The game that was so successful it made Kratos canon to the Greek Mythology ;D
God of War is a mixture of hack and slash, platforming and puzzle solving game that tells the epic story of the deeply tormented warrior Kratos, who is ordered by the gods to kill Ares, the God of War himself, as means to be forgiven for killing his family.
I must say the story and how everything is presented is miles ahead of most action games at the time, very cinematic and epic in scope. 
Like the story, everything in the game feels epic, from combat to going through the locations (like in that image, where you can see the gigantic Ares from far away).
As for Kratos, i'm fine with him. While he have some haters, the "always pissed off" attitude fits the game violence. That plus his design and the badass voice acting make for a iconic character.
Not hard has Ninja Gaiden nor complicated when it comes to combat as some similar games, God of War has a nice balance between all these aspects, making it accesible to either the casual or hardcore gamer. 
Repetition is avoided by the platform and puzzle sections, which are very well done, especially the ones from Pandora's Temple, a place where i really felt i was making progress thanks to the great level design.
God of War, unlike most hack and slash games, managed to nail pretty much everything instead of only gameplay, standing out high and shoulders above them.

8. Sonic & Knuckles (1994)

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(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm64/arbaros/sonic.gif)


Yeah, i think S3+K is the best too but that is something i will talk about later in this list.

Finally, we reach my favorite Sonic game.

Sonic & Knuckles is the sequel to Sonic 3. Originally, these two games were supposed to be only one but Sega ended up separating them to avoid delays and some other stuff.
Thing is, even separated, i think both are great games in their own rights, with S&K taking the upper hand mostly because it has the best level designs and music in the series imo.
Also, going into some more details, i love how it has this dark and sad tone going on after you reach Lava Reef, something pretty unique to the series and that definitely made it stand out for me (fitting music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9utFNqhJUgY) as well) plus the more epic finale to a Sonic game ever, The Doomsday Zone :metal
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 02, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
I do prefer S&K to S3 overall, especially those first 3 zones, but as individual games, I do prefer S1 and especially S2. When counted as one game it's more of a contest (and I generally count them as one), but I still find some of the level design cheap in later levels, and the music is more consistent in the earlier games thanks to having the one great composer.

But there's a Sonic game on your list, and not another modern game that all looks the same to me, so I give you a thumbs up. :lol :tup
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Post by: Outcrier on February 02, 2015, 10:07:29 PM
I do prefer S&K to S3 overall, especially those first 3 zones, but as individual games, I do prefer S1 and especially S2. When counted as one game it's more of a contest (and I generally count them as one), but I still find some of the level design cheap in later levels, and the music is more consistent in the earlier games thanks to having the one great composer.

Well, music is a thing i can't complain about the old Sonic games (even Sonic 3D Blast has awesome VG music such as Volcano Valley Act 2).

But there's a Sonic game on your list, and not another modern game that all looks the same to me, so I give you a thumbs up. :lol :tup
Shots fired, huh?  :lol

By the way, that recreated S&K video you made is the most amazing Sonic related thing i saw since ages... Sonic Generations doesn't hold a candle  :hefdaddy
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 02, 2015, 10:22:42 PM
But there's a Sonic game on your list, and not another modern game that all looks the same to me, so I give you a thumbs up. :lol :tup
Shots fired, huh?  :lol

Oh I didn't mean that as a dig in any way, I'm just admitting to my total ignorance of modern gaming. :lol I've played a lot of the modern games, but I'm very oldschool in what appeals to me.

Sonic 3D Blast had some great music as well. Can't remember specific levels, as I've only played it through once. As far as the classic 2D games go, I'm kinda splitting hairs here.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: masterthes on February 03, 2015, 12:10:44 AM
Love the God of War games!
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Lynxo on February 03, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
My favorite Sonic game will always be the second one, but I'm willing to admit it probably has a lot more to do with nostalgia than with the quality of the actual games. And really, you can't go wrong with any of the Genesis ones. (At least the numbered ones... :lol )
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Post by: cramx3 on February 03, 2015, 06:38:17 AM
My favorite Sonic game will always be the second one, but I'm willing to admit it probably has a lot more to do with nostalgia than with the quality of the actual games. And really, you can't go wrong with any of the Genesis ones. (At least the numbered ones... :lol )

This
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 03, 2015, 07:58:50 AM
My whole childhood was S3&K. Played the living shit out of that game and it will forever be one of my very favorites.  :heart
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Post by: Randaran on February 03, 2015, 12:25:24 PM
God of War is the weakest of the main trilogy, but it is still a great game in its own right. Other than a few sections that are much harder than the surrounding areas (liked that damned human sacrifice section), the game is great from start to finish.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on February 04, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
HL2 only at 10?

There is other games i like more. Why, it is your 1º?

My favorite Sonic game will always be the second one, but I'm willing to admit it probably has a lot more to do with nostalgia than with the quality of the actual games. And really, you can't go wrong with any of the Genesis ones. (At least the numbered ones... :lol )

This

I always thought S3&K was the definitive Sonic experience but love the first two anyway.

My whole childhood was S3&K. Played the living shit out of that game and it will forever be one of my very favorites.  :heart

:hifive:
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Post by: MetalJunkie on February 04, 2015, 08:10:29 PM
Edit: wrong thread
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on February 05, 2015, 03:24:46 AM
God of War is the weakest of the main trilogy, but it is still a great game in its own right. Other than a few sections that are much harder than the surrounding areas (liked that damned human sacrifice section), the game is great from start to finish.

For now, agreed, but i still have to play God of War III (damn exclusivity :-\).

Love the God of War games!

:hifive:

One more incoming:

7. God of War II (2007)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/2/6/9/74269_front.jpg)

(http://www.supercheats.com/guides/god-of-war-2/images/1-damagedcolossus.jpg)
FINISH HIM!

Another God of War game... Well, this one will be short.

From killing Ares to be forgiven, God of War II presents an even better premise: Kratos wants to get revenge on someone who stripped him down of his "new" godly powers, the King of the Gods himself, Zeus. To make that possible, Kratos seeks the Sisters of Fate with the purpose of going back in time to a point where he still has his powers. In the journey, he visits several places within the Island of Creation, all of them even more beautiful and better designed.
Also, it's pretty cool how, this time around, much more icons of the Greek Mithology make appearences like a few Titans, Pegasus, Prometheus, Icarus and even an animated statue of the Colossus of Rhodes.
But, ultimately, the main reason of what makes GoW2 greater is just a case of better level designs, gameplay ideas and pacing. Everything just flows better by comparison and nearly no areas are a chore to replay through.

6. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (2001)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/6/6/1/9661_front.jpg)

(http://www.armature.com/wp-content/gallery/screenshots/mgs2-raiden-shell-sneak.jpg)

Metal Gear is a franchise that dates back to NES but, it wasn't till the PS2 that i decided to explore it.
Despite of being praised for its graphics, cinematic cutscenes and refined gameplay (with the new first person mode), Sons of Liberty took some risks about the characters and story, which led to criticism.
At the time of his release, the game got a lot of flak because people thought Snake would be the main character and that illusion was sustained because you did play as him during the beginning of the game (the Tank Chapter). Later, it was revealed the main character was, in fact, a guy named Raiden, who looked like a total opposite of the badass Solid Snake (even his personality). Short story, everyone hated it and crucified the poor slob :lol
Since i played this a long time after the release date, there never was a problem between me and Raiden and it was nice to see Snake, who appears later, from a different perspective (which actually was one of the points behind the change) so, yeah, i think it was beneficial i didn't played it during it's release (and, consequentially, didn't get aboard the hate train).
Something i love about the MGS series is, despite the story getting convoluted and nonsensical at times, it's so damn engrossing and interesting that you don't even care. And this happens a lot here. So many twists and mindfuckery (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68mbFvenlaQ) (as the game explores so many themes). That, plus the awesome stealth gameplay the series is know for made me fall into the camp who adore Sons of Liberty, a game which still divide opinions.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 05, 2015, 03:35:44 AM
Huge respect and love for MGS2, but part 1 will always be my favorite.

Tanker I absolutely love beyond words, and most of big shell I really enjoyed, until the virus got uploaded and shit went absolutely off the rails. I was like 14 at the time and was confused beyonds words. Its just got whack. Very sweet game though.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 05, 2015, 03:40:48 AM
Huge respect and love for MGS2, but part 1 will always be my favorite.

Tanker I absolutely love beyond words, and most of big shell I really enjoyed, until the virus got uploaded and shit went absolutely off the rails. I was like 14 at the time and was confused beyonds words. Its just got whack. Very sweet game though.

You tell me :lol
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Post by: Lynxo on February 05, 2015, 07:10:16 AM
Huge respect and love for MGS2, but part 1 will always be my favorite.

Tanker I absolutely love beyond words, and most of big shell I really enjoyed, until the virus got uploaded and shit went absolutely off the rails. I was like 14 at the time and was confused beyonds words. Its just got whack. Very sweet game though.
Agreed with all on this. Still, can't help but love that damn game.  :heart
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 05, 2015, 10:56:10 AM
I loved when the MGS2 story went bonkers.  I was also in my early 20s and i was able to follow it.

I love the whole MGS series, but 1&2 were my favorites.
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Post by: Randaran on February 05, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
Ah, MGS2... The last hour is a long cutscene broken up by the occasional boss fight, with plot twist after plot twist. It confused the hell out of my 14 year old self, though I think I may be able to understand it now.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 05, 2015, 05:11:17 PM
By the way, poor Sonic, sandwiched between the God of War  :biggrin:
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Post by: Outcrier on February 07, 2015, 03:30:01 AM
5. Metroid Prime (2002)

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(https://lagunascerebrales.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/metroid-prime-tallon-overworld.jpg)
Déjà vu inducing, eh?

Entering the top five, here's the Metroid game that impressed me so much i held it even higher than Super Metroid.

Last year, while exploring some old games, i decided to try something new: the Nintendo GameCube. Going for some franchises i already knew, the acclaimed Metroid Prime was an easy pick.
First "level" leaved me pretty skeptical. New perspective, the scan feature, so odd. But, as soon i reached Tallon and explored the Chozo Ruins, everything just clicked. It was amazing how it really felt like a Metroid game, only in 3D and first person. I thought the gameplay would be more like a FPS but, instead, i got a FPA (First-person Adventure). As for the rest, the good old Metroid formula, featuring the colored doors, the secret areas/items and staple upgrades such as the Morphing Ball.

Prime art style and graphics surprised me. While most 3D games quickly becomes dated, this one aged very well.

(http://reviewjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Phendrana_canyon.png)
Not bad for being more than ten years old.

The electronic/techno influenced soundtrack is another point that scored high personally. Cool to hear some remixes of sounds and music from the old titles as well.

Now, for 2D Metroid fans who never tried the Prime games, i say: don't be by intimidated by the differences, the essence is still the same.
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Post by: Bolsters on February 07, 2015, 04:44:26 AM
As much as I like the platformers, I think that this is probably my favourite Metroid game. I was just completely sucked in by the atmosphere of Prime almost immediately, and as you mentioned, the soundtrack is great and it really adds a lot to that experience.
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Post by: Randaran on February 07, 2015, 09:02:04 AM
My favorite Metroid game.  :tup Nice pick. The sequel had better boss fights, but this one is better overall.

If any of you have not done so, I highly recommend watching speed runs of both Prime and Prime 2. Metroid games are great for speed runs, and these are no exception.
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Post by: Cool Chris on February 07, 2015, 11:19:21 AM
Metroid Prime is an amazing achievement, taking what was great about the NES and SNES games and ramping it up to the next level. I hate to say any game is flawless, or perfect, but Prime comes about as close as possible. A fair challenge, amazing music and ambiance, fantastic controls, and interesting story without being too complicated.

Most adventure games, you walk in to a new room or area, with your sword/gun/whatever set, ready to be attacked by whatever beasts are ready to greet you. In the Prime games, I love how you enter a new place for the first time, their is a nice camera flyover of the area, and then... nothing happens. it is up for you to explore, figure out where to go, what to do, and discover what creatures might be waiting for you.

Echoes is a great game too, and Corruption might be as well, though I played it years later, when my interest in gaming had waned.
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Post by: Sacul on February 07, 2015, 05:59:54 PM
Although I loved this one (and that near-impossible final boss), I slightly prefer Echoes. But I love all of the Metroid games anyways. Great list  :heart.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 08, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
As much as I like the platformers, I think that this is probably my favourite Metroid game. I was just completely sucked in by the atmosphere of Prime almost immediately, and as you mentioned, the soundtrack is great and it really adds a lot to that experience.

Sure but, being a Metroid game, that's a given  ;)

My favorite Metroid game.  :tup Nice pick. The sequel had better boss fights, but this one is better overall.

If any of you have not done so, I highly recommend watching speed runs of both Prime and Prime 2. Metroid games are great for speed runs, and these are no exception.

I've watched some. First replay, i'm definitely gonna try some of the sequence breakings, especially these where you go "outside" the map.

Echoes is a great game too, and Corruption might be as well, though I played it years later, when my interest in gaming had waned.
Although I loved this one (and that near-impossible final boss), I slightly prefer Echoes. But I love all of the Metroid games anyways.

Still have to play Echoes and Corruption but, no rush.

Great list :heart.

 :-*




BTW, while most gameplay mechanics were successfully transitioned to 3D, the way the Morphing Ball was handled stucked with me:

(http://www.gamesfoda.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/samus-bolinha2.gif)

Such a joy to morph into a little ball and go through the sequences that require it.
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Post by: Sacul on February 08, 2015, 07:42:16 PM
Get the Prime Trilogy for Wii - playing these games with the Wiimote is but a delight, far more comfortable than with a GameCube controller. And I think the first two Prime games have a subtle, slight graphical improvement because they use Corruption's engine.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 10, 2015, 12:49:20 AM
Get the Prime Trilogy for Wii - playing these games with the Wiimote is but a delight, far more comfortable than with a GameCube controller. And I think the first two

Prime games have a subtle, slight graphical improvement because they use Corruption's engine.

Unfortunately, i don't own a Wii but, since Wii U has backwards compatibility, maybe i get one.

4. Resident Evil 4 (2005)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/5/2/2/15522_front.jpg)(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/5/2/8/15528_front.jpg)

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A warm welcome.

At the 4th spot, the REinvention of Resident Evil :P

For the series, Resident Evil 4 is the point where Survival Horror took the backseat in favor of a more action oriented gameplay, with some big changes that amped up the accessibility linearity, new perspective and the over-the-shoulder aiming, to say a few.
Because of that, RE 4 reception was interesting. In one side, people praised it as not only the best RE, but a masterpiece while some fans of the old style thought it was dumbed down for the masses.
While in most cases i would agree it was dumbed down, RE 4 is an exception. Easier? Sure but difficulty isn't something that makes a game good or bad by itself. Not scary anymore? Yeah but, in turn, you experience some of the best action a game can offer. Not only that, everything is so memorable, from the cutscenes to the enemies and level designs (it's really hard to pick a favorite segment because of the campaign being so consistently good throughout).
Another cliche but it has to be said: the flawless pacing. From shit going hard when Leon reachs the village for the first time or some tense enemies encounters (such as the creepy Regenerators) to the relief of reaching a Save Room, these situations rarely overstay their welcome and, to keep things fresh, the game is always throwing something new at you.
To be honest, i can't help but roll my eyes when i hear some say RE 4 is where Resident Evil died just because it isn't anything like it's predecessors. Even better, it manages to transcends the series to be, on it's own, one of the greatest games ever made so...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-krwlyzwVRCQ/TpGYfHOzkcI/AAAAAAAAABk/nBpGHAxqLrE/s1600/RE4HDHEADER.png)

...all hail the king  :hefdaddy
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Post by: Lynxo on February 10, 2015, 03:43:14 AM
As a kid, I bought that game but always stopped just as those villagers start attacking you from every corner because it scared the shit out of me. I've never understood why RE4 is considered less scary?

Or maybe I'm just a pussy. :lol
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Post by: Outcrier on February 10, 2015, 04:44:06 AM
Like i said, Resident Evil 4 is more about Action than Survival Horror. In the older REs, you had much less ammo and inventory space so, sometimes, you couldn't kill all enemies and had to escape them, all in tight hallways most of the times.
Also, the tank controls and fixed camera angles made you more prone to mistakes.

But, if you truly wanna know why RE 4 isn't as scary as you think, try playing any Silent Hill ;)
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 10, 2015, 04:55:10 AM
Big love for MGS2, and RE4.  I only played RE4 a couple years back, having been somewhat familiar with the first three - it was the first RE I actually finished and re-played, and that's probably because its nowhere near as frightening as any of the other ones :lol.

I've lost count of how many times I've played through Sons of Liberty - such a fantastic game.  I remember being uber confused the first time the game started going apeshit (though 13 year old me didn't mind the radar being replaced with that lovely little Japanese woman in that video :lol ).  The lack of Snake didn't really bother me that much.  Annoying as Raiden can be, it was kinda refreshing having a fresh-faced, inexperienced woman as a main character :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on February 10, 2015, 07:09:11 AM
Never played any of the RE after 2 so I am not familiar with the newer game play.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 10, 2015, 08:41:49 AM
I've lost count of how many times I've played through Sons of Liberty - such a fantastic game.  I remember being uber confused the first time the game started going apeshit (though 13 year old me didn't mind the radar being replaced with that lovely little Japanese woman in that video :lol ).  The lack of Snake didn't really bother me that much.  Annoying as Raiden can be, it was kinda refreshing having a fresh-faced, inexperienced woman as a main character :lol

After playing a certain game, i didn't thought i was gonna like Sons of Liberty that much since it's viewed as the weakest of the four main Metal Gear Solid games but, it did proved me wrong. I guess that is a testament to how great the series is.
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Post by: Sacul on February 10, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
I replayed this game too many times - its just so addictive and fun. Will never forget phrases like "Detras de ti, imbécil!" :lol .
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Post by: Outcrier on February 11, 2015, 09:23:23 AM
Spanish is similar to Portuguese so it was funny understand all shit the Ganados say to Leon :lol
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 11, 2015, 02:43:20 PM
They call him asshole a lot, right? Cabron?
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Post by: Cool Chris on February 11, 2015, 03:11:42 PM
I played Resident Evil 0 on N64 or GC (whichever it came out on) and eventually gave up as I couldn't get far and got tired of getting my ass handed to me. Thought it was a cool game though.

Picked this up for the Wii on a whim. Really enjoyed it, but toward the end was losing interest and just finished it to get to the end. A fun game, one I'd recommend, but I have no interest in replaying, and do not get the super-high praise it gets.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 12, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
After playing a certain game, i didn't thought i was gonna like Sons of Liberty that much...

3. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (2004)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/4/4/1/53441_front.jpg)

(https://nigmabox.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/metal-gear-solid-3-hd-vita-image-2.jpg)
Welcome to the jungle.

My introduction to Metal Gear Solid and, i must say, what an introduction!
Luckily for me, the third of the Solid games is, actually, the first in chronological order and tells the origins of the legendary soldier, Big Boss. The plot is one of the most engrossing in any video game i played, with so many memorable characters like the extravagant bosses, a young Ocelot and, especially, Snake's mentor, The Boss.
The music theme and jungle setting reminds me of the James Bond and Rambo movies but this is MGS we're talking about and, with it, comes that glorious gameplay, featuring some neat additions: stealth camouflage, the influence of the wilderness, body damage that drags Snake down if not treated, the CQC "martial art" technique... good stuff.
Snake Eater was my first taste of Hideo Kojima madness. So many things you can do that you think aren't possible because, "This is just a video game, right?". At the top of my mind, using a pill from your inventory like a regular item to fake death (with a fake Game Over screen as well) and advancing real life date within the PS2 system to kill an aged boss :lol, that not counting the countless easter eggs.
I really enjoy how all these "silly" ideas are implented without making the story feel a joke, just the perfect balance of knowing when to do it.

After this and Peace Walker, i'm eagerness to see the continuation of Big Boss story in MGS V: Phantom Pain. Even if they fuck it up (which i doubt), Snake Eater is another set in stone masterpiece from the MGS series.
Well done again, Kojima :clap:

(http://www.gamer.ru/system/attached_images/images/000/306/699/original/plugin-container_2011-01-12_22-53-03-18.jpg)
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 12, 2015, 06:51:41 PM
Snake eater is cool. I wish I loved it as much as MGS1 and MGS2.

I respect it for doing something different and innovative, but the jungle setting and mechanics just weren't my cup of tea unfortunately.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 13, 2015, 07:18:45 AM
Just catching up on this list after vacation. So happy to see Sonic on here, those were my favorite games when I was young. I haven't really played the rest of the games but I'll still be following this list.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 13, 2015, 07:35:45 AM
They call him asshole a lot, right? Cabron?

Not really  ;)

Snake eater is cool. I wish I loved it as much as MGS1 and MGS2.

I respect it for doing something different and innovative, but the jungle setting and mechanics just weren't my cup of tea unfortunately.

Generally, is a battle of MGS1 x MGS3 for best Metal Gear Solid game. Problem is, after playing these you mentioned, i never could go back and admire the original MGS, even though it was the blueprint.

Just catching up on this list after vacation. So happy to see Sonic on here, those were my favorite games when I was young. I haven't really played the rest of the games but I'll still be following this list.

:hifive:

I'm gonna finish this soon, just two more games.

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Post by: Outcrier on February 16, 2015, 03:47:35 AM
The Carnival holiday delayed me a bit but, i shall finish my list this week. Some quick thoughts:

2. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (1997)

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(http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1359/top-10-hammy-video-games-dracula-castlevania-symphony-of-the-night.jpg)

The silver medal goes for the pinnacle of the Castlevania series, Symphony of the Night.
SotN came with many changes in relation to his predecessors, the most notably being the Metroidvania gameplay style, which fit like a glove with a setting such as Dracula's castle and his many areas. Differentiating from Super Metroid, SotN features RPG elements such as HP, MP, stats and you can find and use many equipments instead of only special items. In short, a real breath of fresh air for the series.
The audio is generally good despite of the cheesy voice acting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z65s0fqDw4) but the music is where it shines. Michiru Yamane composed a very varied soundtrack. Just going by genres, you got classical music, rock, metal, new age, techno, trip hop and more. Certainly one of the greats.
The Inverted Castle is one of the biggest surprises i ever had in a game. Sure, it may have been a cheap way of extending the duration of but damn if it isn't a mindblowing twist. Besides, there are new enemies, items and difficulty spike.

(http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/konami/castlevania/symphonyofthenight/symphonyofthenight-1202-610.jpg)
Isaac Newton disliked this.

If Super Metroid was the perfection of Metroidvania, SotN managed to do the impossible, expanding something thought to be already perfect.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 16, 2015, 05:12:05 AM
I bow down to SoTN.  :hefdaddy

From the moment I first put it in, I instantly fell in love with it. The action, the music, the art design was all just so very cool and incredible.

Top 5 ps1 games for me.
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Post by: Lynxo on February 16, 2015, 05:13:09 AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome game.  :tup I really want to track down a copy of that game but it's absurdly expensive. Oh well, at least we have the digital releases.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 16, 2015, 07:13:53 AM
I heard so much of CastleVania but I never played, maybe one day but my list of games to play just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 16, 2015, 02:26:57 PM
I bow down to SoTN.  :hefdaddy

From the moment I first put it in, I instantly fell in love with it. The action, the music, the art design was all just so very cool and incredible.

Top 5 ps1 games for me.

They certainly stood the test of time.

I heard so much of CastleVania but I never played, maybe one day but my list of games to play just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

If you like Metroidvanias, Symphony of the Night is a must.

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Post by: Parama on February 16, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
never been able to dig castlevania games, too much combat for my tastes and the scenery is kind of bland

just me tho
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Post by: Outcrier on February 17, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
never been able to dig castlevania games, too much combat for my tastes and the scenery is kind of bland

just me tho

If that serves for SotN as well, it's just you  :\
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Post by: masterthes on February 17, 2015, 11:33:11 AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome game.  :tup I really want to track down a copy of that game but it's absurdly expensive. Oh well, at least we have the digital releases.


http://www.amazon.com/Konami-Classics-1-Xbox-360/dp/B002W5GI8Y/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1424197948&sr=8-4&keywords=midway+arcade+origins
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 17, 2015, 02:32:46 PM
Nice pick.  I've played one Castlevania game but can't remember which one, I will have to track this one down.
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Post by: Cool Chris on February 17, 2015, 03:12:40 PM
I only ever owned Nintendo consoles, so this one flew under my radar for a long time. I grew up playing Castlevania 1, 2, 3, and the SNES one. Great games, very frustrating, but not in a throw-your-controller-at-the-screen way. The N64 one was garbage. I really tried to like it because I loved the franchise and it seemed like it had potential, but it was just so terrible.
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Post by: Lynxo on February 18, 2015, 06:15:02 AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome game.  :tup I really want to track down a copy of that game but it's absurdly expensive. Oh well, at least we have the digital releases.


http://www.amazon.com/Konami-Classics-1-Xbox-360/dp/B002W5GI8Y/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1424197948&sr=8-4&keywords=midway+arcade+origins
Well yeah, that's certainly better than a digital release. But unfortunaly, I don't own an Xbox 360.

Someday, I will buy that PSX release and feel like my gaming library has reached nirvana.  :hat
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Post by: wizard of Thought on February 18, 2015, 02:48:25 PM

I heard so much of CastleVania but I never played, maybe one day but my list of games to play just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

If you like Metroidvanias, Symphony of the Night is a must.

I`m currently playing the Metroid Prime Trilogy on my Wii U and it`s so amazing and difficult, like I personally start raging at the time I enter a room for, like, the 20th time and all enemies respawn every time you enter the room. I just hate this. But, besides this, the games are really genius and fans of Metroidvanias actually have to play these masterpieces of video game history!
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Post by: Outcrier on February 19, 2015, 03:01:21 AM
1. Final Fantasy VIII (1999)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/6/5/6/3656_front.jpg)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bv_UW5-TKZ8/maxresdefault.jpg)

Yeah, i know. A unpopular choice for favorite Final Fantasy/game ever but, Final Fantasy VIII means so much to me that it can't be beaten.

FF8 is the most nostalgic game for me, so nostalgic it gives me a strange feeling since it reminds me of a time so long ago that just seems like a dream if i try to remember. Even when i know for certain that i have played and finished FF8 many times, it's hard to picture me doing this this more than 10 years ago but, if i start a playthrough nowadays, i surely knows what to do, where to go, the little secrets, how the music goes... Crazy how memory works.

Part of the nostalgia comes from FF8 being the first RPG i ever played. It was really impressive compared to what i used to play during my childhood and i have no problems to admit that probably is one of the reasons behind my love for it.
It was many years after that i discovered FF8 is viewed as a love or hate it game, partly because of how much different it is if compared to the other entries, in a way that it even doesn't feel like a Final Fantasy.
Not only that, some systems and mechanics used in the game like Junction or Limit Break can be exploited, making the game pretty easy. Thankfully, i was just a kid and only played along, not quite understanding them.
What made me stay was the epic story and general mood/atmosphere of the game, especially in so many amazing settings that resemble real life modern/urban places, with a dose of advanced technology thrown into the mix.

(http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/galbadiagarden8.jpg)
Contrasts.

At least, there is some things about FF8 that are universally acclaimed. Triple Triad and his music, per example. The Triple Triad card minigame is very addicting, in a way many people actually prefer it over the game  :lol
But, more than a simply pastime, it can be very useful since some cards can be modified into great items and magic.
As for the music, it's often praised as one of the best FF OSTs by the fans. Personally, it is my absolute favorite OST in all gaming. Liberi Fatali, The Man with the Machine Gun, Force Your Way, The Landing, Balamb Garden, Fisherman's Horizon, The Extreme... In short, pure VGM bliss. Unbelievable on how much it adds here.
Another nice fact is, before the Internet, this right here was my first English teacher. I used to pick dictionaries and all to understand some things since isn't my native language. Helped me a lot  :laugh:

Sure, FF8 has many flaws and i totally get what most people don't like about it but my "relationship" with it is a case of emotion over reason.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 19, 2015, 03:22:54 AM
Love FF8.

VII was the first FF game that I played and it blew my mind so I was heavily anticipating 8's release and played it for hours and hours.

Not really into the the orphanage/future sorceress business, but everything up to that point I found amazing.
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Post by: ariich on February 19, 2015, 04:06:14 AM
I love the series, but VIII is definitely one of my lesser favourites. A lot of the technical side of things was the best the series had seen - the graphics were the best at that point, the music remains the best of the entire series, and some aspects of the gameplay were great. I just didn't find the story to hold together very well, and I found most of the characters annoying. And for me these are really important features in these sorts of RPG, so it really had a big impact on my overall enjoyment of the game.

I do intend to play it again sometime though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ReaperKK on February 19, 2015, 07:29:45 AM
I have never played any of the FF games. I've tried a few times but just couldn't get into it.

I loved the list though.

If no one is next I'm ready to do my list with write-ups.
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Post by: Lynxo on February 19, 2015, 08:45:46 AM
Not my favorite FF game, but that's like saying that this piece of bacon didn't taste as good to me as the one I had yesterday - it's still bacon, god dammit!

Awesome, awesome game. I have many fond memories of this one. I must have played through this about 10 times when I was a kid. Squall taught me that even a quiet douchebag can get a girlfriend!

If no one is next I'm ready to do my list with write-ups.
I'm eagerly waiting my turn as well but I'm last on the list. :lol
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ariich on February 19, 2015, 09:32:22 AM
Squall taught me that even a quiet douchebag can get a girlfriend!
Yeah, but a girlfriend devoid of any personality. :P
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ReaperKK on February 19, 2015, 09:48:53 AM
This thread and me writing my write ups has reminded me how much I like playing video games and how I just don't have time to do so anymore. Sigh growing up sucks sometimes.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 19, 2015, 10:49:26 AM
This thread and me writing my write ups has reminded me how much I like playing video games and how I just don't have time to do so anymore. Sigh growing up sucks sometimes.

Yeah it does. I used to play videogames for like 5 hours a day when I was kid/teenager. Now at 27, not only do I not really have the time, but I honestly don't even really have the interest anymore. They just don't seem to hold my interest the way they used to back when I was a kid. Just another downside of growing up I guess.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Chino on February 19, 2015, 10:56:07 AM
This thread and me writing my write ups has reminded me how much I like playing video games and how I just don't have time to do so anymore. Sigh growing up sucks sometimes.

Yeah it does. I used to play videogames for like 5 hours a day when I was kid/teenager. Now at 27, not only do I not really have the time, but I honestly don't even really have the interest anymore. They just don't seem to hold my interest the way they used to back when I was a kid. Just another downside of growing up I guess.

I'm in the same boat. I've had the PS4 since launch day and I've bought one game for it (GTAV). I miss gaming like I used to a few years ago, but at the same time, I rarely have the desire to play  :lol The only game other than GTA that I'm remotely interested in is the newest Little Big Planet, and I'm probably never going to bother buying that. I'll probably get the new Red Dead when it comes out though.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ReaperKK on February 19, 2015, 11:10:37 AM
This thread and me writing my write ups has reminded me how much I like playing video games and how I just don't have time to do so anymore. Sigh growing up sucks sometimes.

Yeah it does. I used to play videogames for like 5 hours a day when I was kid/teenager. Now at 27, not only do I not really have the time, but I honestly don't even really have the interest anymore. They just don't seem to hold my interest the way they used to back when I was a kid. Just another downside of growing up I guess.

It's almost as if I enjoy reading about games more than I like playing them . . . . .
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Post by: Cool Chris on February 19, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
It's almost as if I enjoy reading about games more than I like playing them . . . . .

I find myself watching a lot of videos of people talking about, or playing, video games. But that is jsut easier to do when i am helping put my daughter to bed.

I have never played one minute of a FF game. I imagine though I would not enjoy it as I am terrible at those types of games.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 19, 2015, 11:42:00 AM
Add me to the getting too old to game list.  I still game because I still find it enjoyable, but I have such little time to devote to it.  However, I did spend all of last Sunday gaming which was awesome.  But not having the time is what has lead me to playing mostly jsut FPS online matches since its easy to pick up and play and not have to devote more than 15 minutes at a time.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 19, 2015, 12:28:23 PM
This thread and me writing my write ups has reminded me how much I like playing video games and how I just don't have time to do so anymore. Sigh growing up sucks sometimes.

Yeah it does. I used to play videogames for like 5 hours a day when I was kid/teenager. Now at 27, not only do I not really have the time, but I honestly don't even really have the interest anymore. They just don't seem to hold my interest the way they used to back when I was a kid. Just another downside of growing up I guess.

It's almost as if I enjoy reading about games more than I like playing them . . . . .

Its funny you should say that, because I'm exactly the same way. Even though I haven't played a video game in over a year, most of my downtime at home is spent watching Let's plays of video games or quick looks on Giant Bomb. And on my commute I'm constantly listening to video game podcasts, pretty much on a daily basis.

So ironically enough, I'm still fascinated by videogames i guess, but just don't have the urge to sit down and play them for hours. Its probably because I'm an old tired bastard and when I get home I just want to crash after having had a long ass tiring day, but who knows?

But with all that being said, when something huge comes out like GTA 5 or the next metal gear, I do make time to work my way through them.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: ReaperKK on February 19, 2015, 01:15:49 PM
Off topic but what are some good game podcasts?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 19, 2015, 01:41:34 PM
Giant bombcast (this is my favorite)

http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/

Geekbox is pretty good

http://www.geekbox.net/

Those are my two main ones.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on February 19, 2015, 01:46:33 PM
Love FF8.

VII was the first FF game that I played and it blew my mind so I was heavily anticipating 8's release and played it for hours and hours.

Not really into the the orphanage/future sorceress business, but everything up to that point I found amazing.

Maybe FF7 would be there in place of FF8 if i played it first, maybe not, who knows...

I have never played any of the FF games. I've tried a few times but just couldn't get into it.

I loved the list though.

Thanks. Btw, i like to thank everyone who commented. It was nice to share some of my favorites with you guys.

If no one is next I'm ready to do my list with write-ups.

Hm, you should see that with Sacul.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on February 19, 2015, 01:47:11 PM
The ranking:

1. Final Fantasy VIII
2. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
3. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
4. Resident Evil 4
5. Metroid Prime
6. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
7. God of War II
8. Sonic & Knuckles
9. God of War
10. Half-Life 2

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11. Need for Speed: Most Wanted
12. Super Metroid
13. Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
14. Final Fantasy IX
15. Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped
16. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
17. Final Fantasy X
18. Heart of Darkness
19. Chrono Trigger
20. Xenogears
21. Okami
22. Dark Souls II
23. Sonic the Hedgehog 3
24. Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
25. QuackShot starring Donald Duck
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Sacul on February 19, 2015, 03:24:22 PM
Excellent list :tup .


Go on, ReaperKK :hat .
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 19, 2015, 03:43:26 PM
I'm late, but fuck yeah for FF8.  My fave FF <3
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 19, 2015, 06:48:08 PM
Ok so here goes my list, I'm going to do 2 a day and maybe 1 a day when I get to the top 5. I love video games but I haven't played many games recently because, well I'm older and much busier but here is my list. Hope you guys like it!!!

25. Smite (PC 2013)
(http://i.imgur.com/N0CUH1I.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yU9IK8F.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KCveDiI.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of Moba games even though I'm incredibly bad at the them. I started out with Dota mod on Warcraft 3 and I had a blast. Years flew by and my little brother who is also a huge fan of moba games told me about this third person moba called Smite which was a game still in beta, I was intrigued. I downloaded it and it was a blast. Being a third person game brought so much more to the genre in my opinion. A lot of moba games to me felt like there was a pre-programmed list of moves that you have to do, with Smite there was more surprise, more of a live feel. Being free-to-play hero's aren't all available at first, you either have to spend money to buy them or play enough games to unlock them. The game would have a certain number of heros that are always available plus 5-10 heroes that would be unlocked for you to try out.

The game also had different game modes, you can play the standard dota like 3 lane game. You can play a huge arena battle. You can play assault which involves pushing a single lane, not to mention there was a one on one dual mode. The game is endless fun and actually just came out of beta recently. If you're interested in moba games or you want to get into it, try Smite out. It's free to downloaded and it's not a pay to win game. It's easy to learn and it's a lot less toxic of a community than say LoL.

24. Super Mario Bros (NES 1985)
(http://i.imgur.com/n57hgKy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ATkqSqf.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/jnVu7Yz.png)

One of the first video games that I ever played. I remember being four or five years old and my dad bringing home SMB and Home Alone with a Nintendo system. I loved this game. I remember sitting in the living room on cold Wisconsin nights killing time playing this game with my Dad. I can't really say anything new about this game that hasn't been said but my dad and I were never really close but one of the few things we did do together is play SMB and that puts this game on my list
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Post by: Outcrier on February 19, 2015, 09:12:54 PM
Super Mario Bros hasn't done much, only saved the entire gaming industry and even more, served as the blueprint ;)

As for Smite, i'm not into MOBAs.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 19, 2015, 11:22:49 PM
Never heard of Smite, but like anyone my age or older, I played the hell out of SMB as a kid. It defined my favourite genre, it still holds up pretty well today, and it came out in the same year I did! :biggrin:
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 19, 2015, 11:55:18 PM
It is a great game, I loaded it up for a bit today. I didn't know you were only a year older than me blob.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 20, 2015, 12:06:32 AM
I can see why you'd get that impression. :lol
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Post by: Parama on February 20, 2015, 12:10:16 AM
negativity police here

SMB is not a bad game, certainly, but in terms of how far platformers have come it's not a great game by today's standards
that being said I can understand why you'd put it on your list, and it's not like it's way high on a list
so I don't disagree, I played a ton of SMB as a kid too  :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 20, 2015, 12:17:39 AM
Platformers have come a long way, and SMB does look relatively simple by comparison, but I don't think that makes it any less of a great game. It's not even one of my favourite Mario games, but it's still a lot of fun to play even today, and modern games (especially the Mario games obviously), still use the same foundation, mostly just building upon it. For a 30 year old game, I think that's impressive.
Title: Outcrier's fav games and whatever (pg. 25)
Post by: Outcrier on February 20, 2015, 01:06:18 AM
Now i noticed, during my turn, while i didn't pick "Outcrier's fav games and whatever" as the thread title, it kinda fit since my favorite game is Final Fantasy VIII and “…whatever” is Squall's "catchphrase"  :lol

About SMB, i think it's still great despite of how that formula was improved later with SMB3 and forth.
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Post by: ariich on February 20, 2015, 01:58:45 AM
It's not even one of my favourite Mario games, but it's still a lot of fun to play even today
This is pretty crucial. More complicated doesn't mean better, and ultimately for me games need to either (a) be fun to play, or (b) have something artistic about them (narrative, characters, etc). SMB nails the former.
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Post by: Lynxo on February 20, 2015, 02:21:32 AM
Interesting video of how well-build the very first level of SMB was for its time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2wGpEZVgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2wGpEZVgE)  :tup
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Post by: Bolsters on February 20, 2015, 03:26:05 AM
You really have to put SMB into context though. Of course it's simple and straightforward, and there's little variety in it, by today's standards. But before Super Mario Bros. platforming games were things like Pitfall, Hero, or Donkey Kong. Good games, but they seemed old and dated the minute SMB hit the shelves. It had an unprecedented level of sophistication and refinement.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 20, 2015, 05:54:05 AM
Yea while SMB is not the best Mario game, given its time and place of release, its an amazing achievement! It also was a huge part of the video game boom of my generation (I was born one year before it release, but that was still the game to play when I was a kid) and ultimately lead tot he AMAZING SM3 for the NES. 
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Post by: Chino on February 20, 2015, 06:30:12 AM
SMB brothers was amazing because of the cross over of characters. The fact that Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Samaus, and Mario were in the same place at the same time blew my mind at the time.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 20, 2015, 09:28:50 AM
Another update as promised!

23. Don't Starve (PC 2013)
(http://i.imgur.com/3NKOKnh.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/XYkfZTv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tvWaMR5.jpg)

Back in the Warcraft 3 days I remember there being a mod called Ice Troll Tribes. You were dropped off on a piece of land in the winter and you had to survive essentially. You could also find your friends and either fight or help each other survive. It was a crude, unforgiving mod but it was a blast to play. I always wanted to play a game that was simply about survival.

Now there are many, many survival games out on the market and Don't Starve is one the best. First off the art style is original and appealing. You start off being through in a random map as Wilson and you have a simple task, that is to not starve. The game is hard as the days go by because you have to keep yourself, fed, sane, and out of the dark. As the game progresses you'll discover more about the story of the game. The game is a bit unforgiving at first but it's never unfair and it has some great staying power.

The game didn't seem like much at the start but it has incredible depth, there are many different environments to explore and try to survive it. Also with a recent update you can now play multiplayer with up to 4 people which adds a great new element of teamwork to the game.

22. Amnesia: The Dark Descent (PC 2011)
(http://i.imgur.com/f22Cp3J.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hVtgZyV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/t3c2CXJ.png)

I'm a casual fan of horror games. I played some decent games but nothing that really grabbed me in or something that is truly terrifying. One day my brother calls me up and tells me to download Amnesia and play it at night with headphones on. I was skeptical but he swore up and down that it was a game that I wasn't going to regret playing. 

That night I sit down, turn off the lights, put my headphones on and start this game up. This was the most frightening thing I have ever played or seen in an entertainment art form. What I love about this game is that it's not built on jump scares like so many games are, this game builds a mood that no horror game has been able to do. One of the first frightening moments about the game is walking into a piano room and looking to the right and you quickly see something walking out of the other door. You don't know if you made it up in your head or if your really saw something.

The first 30 minutes of the game are fairly tame. You wake up in a castle and you're tasked with finding out your identity and why you're in the castle. You quickly find out that you gave yourself amnesia and you left yourself little notes about what has been going on as you delve deeper into the pits of this castle.

The game is tense, it grabs you and doesn't let go. The object of the game is not to kill monsters, in fact you can't kill them, you're powerless for the most part, the whole point of the game is to find out what happened to you and in this home. The journey is incredible (although the end is a bit anti-climatic) and if you're a fan of the horror genre then you must play this game.
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Post by: Chino on February 20, 2015, 09:31:19 AM
Wait until you'll be able to play games like that on an Oculus Rift.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 20, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Wait until you'll be able to play games like that on an Oculus Rift.

When I first heard of the Oculus rift a couple years ago the first game I thought about was Amnesia. I need to find a way to demo an Oculus.
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Post by: Cool Chris on February 20, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
Interesting video of how well-build the very first level of SMB was for its time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2wGpEZVgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2wGpEZVgE)  :tup

Cool video, but what is up with that guy's voice?
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. It's-a me, ReaperKK! (pg. 28)
Post by: Chino on February 20, 2015, 10:44:36 AM
I didn't even notice your post about Don't Starve. I have that on the PS4 and I love it. The longest I've stayed alive is only 16 days though.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 20, 2015, 10:50:26 AM
It's great, Don't Starve together is so much fun.
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Post by: ariich on February 20, 2015, 03:08:58 PM
I really need to go back and play Amnesia properly. What I did play of it was absurdly creepy, but my brother said I should stick with it because it's absolutely friggin' terrifying. :lol
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Post by: Cable on February 20, 2015, 05:54:17 PM
A vote for the Oculus version of Amnesia.

I haven't played Amnesia, and doubt I will (seen videos though). However, great point Chino. The Oculus would slay this game. That one demo/game of the maze is only the top of the iceberg. Games like Half-Life and what not did nothing for me ported over. Amnesia would however be sweet.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. It's-a me, ReaperKK! (pg. 28)
Post by: Outcrier on February 20, 2015, 10:41:20 PM
SMB brothers was amazing because of the cross over of characters. The fact that Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Samaus, and Mario were in the same place at the same time blew my mind at the time.

We are talking about Super Mario Bros., not Super Smash Bros.
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. It's-a me, ReaperKK! (pg. 28)
Post by: ReaperKK on February 21, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
21. Super Smash Bros. (N64 1999)
(http://i.imgur.com/UVWVFll.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0JrObJv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8MkygfO.jpg)

Well Speaking of SMB, here is the other one; Super Smash Bros. My childhood was playing this game none stop with friends. The game was a welcome change from Mario Kart and Goldeneye and offered something entirely different.

To me this was the best multiplier fighting game for the N64, the controls worked well and everything feels seamless. The graphics where great at the time and the I thought having characters from different universes was an awesome addition. You start off picking a character and basically fighting each other until the last one is standing. You don't kill you opponent, you try and get them off the fighting area by throwing them off. The game can be very challenging if played with the right people but it's always fun.

I still enjoy firing up SMB when I can get some people over to play with.

20. TrackMania Stadium (PC 2012)
(http://i.imgur.com/s3Mluy4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mbpbMjj.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yOqjLwD.jpg)

There are much better racing games out there but this is my favorite for the simple fact of how quick you can pick it up. It's an easy game to get into yet impossibly hard to master and beat some of the top times. It's another free-to-play game that you can download, probably the best FTP that I can think of actually.

You climb into an F1 car and race around a track, most of the time it's a user created track on a dedicated server. It's an arcade racer that has has you doing loops around the track. It's a fairly simple game but it's executed so well. The racing is competitive with a few different modes that you can play, most of the time you are playing to time attack and trying to set the best time on the map. Winner gets credits which go towards you're global ranking.

There are countless maps to play and it's a simple game to get your friends into and get lost in a few hours. If you like arcade racing at all this is a game that you must try.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 21, 2015, 07:45:11 AM
Super Smash Bros! :metal I played the hell out of that game.
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Post by: Outcrier on February 21, 2015, 08:06:24 AM
We are talking about Super Mario Bros., not Super Smash Bros.

Now we are talking about Smash  :lol

Btw, never played any Smash since it is multiplayer focused. Never owned any Nintendo console either.
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Post by: Scorpion on February 21, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
Fuck yes Trackmania. I played the shit out of that game for about two years in highschool. So much fun.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 21, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
Two incredible games

1. Smash bros was a game I spent hours playing. Just something fascinating about it. Sadly, I never could get into the newer ones as the first one.


2. Trackmania is crazy and I love it. Fast, frantic and insane. And a whole lot of fun.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 21, 2015, 11:08:45 PM
1. Smash bros was a game I spent hours playing. Just something fascinating about it. Sadly, I never could get into the newer ones as the first one.


Besides the original, the only other one I've played is Melee, and I prefer the original. Melee felt a bit overdone in terms of level gimmicks and powerups, and the fighting was so fast that I find myself button bashing most of the time. Still a good game that I've played a lot, but the original is my favourite.
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Post by: Randaran on February 22, 2015, 07:31:46 AM
1. Smash bros was a game I spent hours playing. Just something fascinating about it. Sadly, I never could get into the newer ones as the first one.


Besides the original, the only other one I've played is Melee, and I prefer the original. Melee felt a bit overdone in terms of level gimmicks and powerups, and the fighting was so fast that I find myself button bashing most of the time. Still a good game that I've played a lot, but the original is my favourite.

Level gimmicks and powerups do not really bother me, as I always play Final Destination with no items. Since I prefer the way Melee controls, that is my favorite.

Melee
Smash 4
(Project M)
N64
Brawl
Title: Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. It's-a me, ReaperKK! (pg. 28)
Post by: ReaperKK on February 22, 2015, 07:41:18 AM
As much as I loved the N64 SMB I never played any of the others. I just never bought a nintendo system after the 64.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 22, 2015, 04:14:01 PM
19. FTL: Faster Than Light (PC 2012)
(http://i.imgur.com/As2dBjf.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/eHtCbi8.jpg)

I really like watching Angry Joe video game reviews. He a real passion for games and also gives great insight. One day I saw he reviewed and indie game called Faster Than Light. Watched the review and didn't seem to impressed but it was a lazy Sunday so I said fuck it. I downloaded it and was immediately hooked.

FTL is a top down RTS game, not my usual cup of tea but after installing it the hours seemed to just fly by. You start off with a ship and a crew of three of your mission is to deliver some information to federation headquarters jumping from sector to sector with your faster than light drive.

You start the game warping to one of a few points near you where you'll encounter a random instance. Sometimes a ship may need help, sometimes you may be attacked, other times there is nothing. The majority of the gameplay is fighting though.

The combat system is done amazingly well, you can either pause the game and set up attacks and where you want your crew or you can try to play in real time which I don't suggest. There are a number of ways you can beat your opponent. You can kill their oxygen supply and starve them of air, you can destroy their shields, you can teleport your crew over them and attack them from the inside.

The game is not easy, it's very tough and gets much harder as you progress. I played on easy and it took me a little while to get to the final boss.

Also a quick shout out to the development team. They released an expansion for free to owners of the original game which you don't see too often these days. The game is also available on iPad now and it's just as good, I even bought a second copy so I could play it while traveling.

18. SimCity 3000 (PC 1999)
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SimCity 3000 is my favorite of the bunch and my favorite city builder by far (although the new Cities XL looks pretty cool). I was too young to enjoy and appreciate SimCity2k and SimCity 4000 was good but didn't really click with me in the way that SimCity 3000 did.

For those that haven't played you are a Mayor in charge of putting together a new city and making it profitable, it's pretty much a sandbox as long as you don't go broke. Countless hours were spent trying to master the art of bringing in clean energy to the city and when I would get bored I would just drop a tornado or two on the city to see what happens.

I'm really heartbroken that the new SimCity was so bare and disappointing. This was released during the prime years at Maxis.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 22, 2015, 04:27:34 PM
1. FTL - Heard great things, just haven't gotten around to playing yet

2. Sim City 3000 was my life as a kid. Hours and hours spent building cities. I was always a lego freak and I'm just fasciated with building cities.
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Post by: Sacul on February 22, 2015, 05:40:15 PM
Played SimCity a lot as a kid, but never achieved anything, not even a decent city :lol. But I may try it again, I know way more things now, so it shouldn't be that difficult.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 22, 2015, 06:24:18 PM
SimCity  3000 was the first Simcity I played. I loved everything about it. I would always cause a Natural Disaster just to fuck around.
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Post by: Nick on February 22, 2015, 09:47:49 PM
I played a ton of SimCity3000, such an amazing game.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on February 22, 2015, 10:21:56 PM
Never played SimCity 3k but SimCity 2k was the first PC game I ever owned. I had to beg my parents to get it for me and once they finally relented, we could not find the game anywhere. All we could were the Mac versions of the game (Mac versions? WTF?). After weeks of looking we finally found a copy at some random mall computer hardware/software store. I took it him in my greasy little adolescent nerd hands and played the shit out of that game until I got WarCraft 2. I was so absolutely awful at city management. All of my cities ended up as broke, desolate wastelands of abandoned tenements, empty airports, and sad military bases with just one hanger and one airstrip. Yet I still played it over and over again.

When SimCity 3k came out, I was a broke-ass teenager so I had to budget which games I really, really wanted and, sad to say, SimCity 3k, despite me being pretty excited for it, didn't make the list. I did buy SimCity 4, but it just could not match up to the nostalgia and memories I had for 2k.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 22, 2015, 10:28:08 PM
I never played Sim City 3000, but I've played older ones, and it's always fun. :tup
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Post by: Chino on February 23, 2015, 07:10:47 AM
SMB brothers was amazing because of the cross over of characters. The fact that Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Samaus, and Mario were in the same place at the same time blew my mind at the time.

We are talking about Super Mario Bros., not Super Smash Bros.

 :rollin :rollin  :facepalm:
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 23, 2015, 07:55:18 AM
Here is another update! There won't be one tomorrow as I'll be away from my computer. I'll get back to my normal schedule Wednesday:

17. Fable (XBox 2004)
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Even though everyone was talking about this game it kind of came out of no where, I wasn't really interested in playing it. I was looking for an xbox to mod, my buddy came over and let me borrow the game because I didn't have any.

All I really knew about this game was that it was an RPG that you started as a youth and grew up as you played. At the time I wasn't a bit RPG player but there was a certain magic about this game. The story really gripped me and I really felt like I was being taken for an adventure. I enjoyed making decisions that affected me as the game went on and I got older. There was also a lot of replay value in the game.

I haven't played this game in 8 or 9 years but I can remember how much fun I had. I never played Fable 2 or 3 but I heard that they were largely disappointments so I doubt I'll ever be playing those.

16. The Lion King (Sega Genesis 1994)
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I don't remember when I got this game, I remember I was in elementary school and I remember that this was essentially the only game I played for months. This was my favorite game from movie licensed games (Aladdin came close).

There isn't a whole lot that I can write about this game other than you it's 2D side scroller where you play out the whole story of The Lion King as Simba. The soundtrack was great, the game was a lot of fun and the only drawback that I can remember is that the controls could be clunky at times. My buddy and I used to spend hours replaying it, it wasn't too tough to play with the exception of the last battle.
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Post by: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
I recently replayed The Lion King and it's still hard as shit. Tons of fun though, one of my favorites as a kid. I had the Super Nintendo version though, so I wonder if it was easier on Genesis or something.
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Post by: Nick on February 23, 2015, 08:14:28 PM
The Lion King? The also mentioned Aladdin was much better imo.
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Post by: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 08:20:27 PM
Disney was pretty consistent with their video games. There was another one on SNES called Mickey Mania that I absolutely loved. Come to think of it, I don't know if I've played any bad Disney games from the 8/16 bit eras.
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Post by: Bolsters on February 23, 2015, 08:23:00 PM
I remember Ducktales on the NES being pretty good, too.
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Post by: The King in Crimson on February 23, 2015, 08:23:08 PM
Awe man, that wilde beast level in The Lion King was my bane. I played it a bunch on the SNES and it was a bitch.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 23, 2015, 08:49:26 PM
The only really tough part of the game was he fight with Scar. Having a six button controller made it a bit easier.
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Post by: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 09:13:36 PM
I remember Ducktales on the NES being pretty good, too.
They recently remade Ducktales on the Wii! I haven't played it yet but it looks really good.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 23, 2015, 11:54:00 PM
I remember Ducktales on the NES being pretty good, too.
They recently remade Ducktales on the Wii! I haven't played it yet but it looks really good.

The recently remade Castle of Illusion also looks pretty awesome.
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Post by: Lynxo on February 24, 2015, 03:19:49 AM
I recently replayed The Lion King and it's still hard as shit. Tons of fun though, one of my favorites as a kid. I had the Super Nintendo version though, so I wonder if it was easier on Genesis or something.
The SNES version has at least much better graphics but as far as gameplay go, they're supposed to be identical.

That being said, I agree with you, I thought it was really hard. :lol But really good as well.

Also, if you've got an hour to spend, there's a video with one of the developer of that game, playing through it and talking about all different kinds of aspects of it. If you're as nerdy as me, it's time well spent.  :tup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kILeyo1iv0A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kILeyo1iv0A)
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 24, 2015, 08:30:47 AM
Many hours were spent on that game. :tup For better, or for worse. :lol

It was one of the few games that I owned on Genesis, although I did end up getting the SNES version of it as well later on. Hella difficult in parts, but I do recall this immense feeling of triumph when I finally owned it. :biggrin:
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Post by: Mosh on February 24, 2015, 07:56:35 PM
I recently replayed The Lion King and it's still hard as shit. Tons of fun though, one of my favorites as a kid. I had the Super Nintendo version though, so I wonder if it was easier on Genesis or something.
The SNES version has at least much better graphics but as far as gameplay go, they're supposed to be identical.

That being said, I agree with you, I thought it was really hard. :lol But really good as well.

Also, if you've got an hour to spend, there's a video with one of the developer of that game, playing through it and talking about all different kinds of aspects of it. If you're as nerdy as me, it's time well spent.  :tup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kILeyo1iv0A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kILeyo1iv0A)
That vid looks really cool, will check it out!
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 25, 2015, 09:20:28 AM
Update time!:

15. Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Sega Genesis 1992)
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I played a lot or Mario growing up but my heart was always with Sonic. The Sonic games are awesome and really rewarding to play. It was faster than Super Mario and I always enjoyed the level design more in the Sonic games, it just seemed more fluid to me.

You're a blue hedgehog that runs around trying to free little animals the Dr. Robotnik has trapped and uses as slaves. This was the first game that I remember that used the spin dash move which was a great way to fly through a level. You collect rings, and if you get over 50 you enter a special zone where you can win a chaos emerald. Collect all of the emeralds and you will be able to become Super Sonic, which is even more awesome.

I will say Sonic 3 is a better game that Sonic 2 however when I go and replay genesis games I always pick up Sonic 2, probably because it's my first Sonic that I got to play. Even though I posted Sonic 2 here I'm really a fan of all the games except Sonic 3d Blast which was more annoying to play than anything else.

14. Need For Speed: Porsche Unleashed (PC 2000)
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I always loved the early Need For Speed games, hot pursuit being one of my favorites but Porsche Unleashed took Need for Speed in a different and welcome direction. 

I always say this game was like the Gran Turismo of PC games, except all you can buy is Porsches. It had the best physics at the time and wasn't just and arcade racer like the other Need For Speed games and had a lot more realism. The customization was one of my favorite parts of the game. There was so much you can do with your car but you had to be smart with your money. The game had a great damage model as well as interiors of cars that you can play from.

I haven't played many of the more recent NFS games but from what I hear they returned to more of the arcade style of gameplay which if true is a shame because Porsche Unleashed will go down as one of the best racing games.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 09:24:40 AM
:metal Sonic 2. Also my favourite. I played a lot of the Master System ones first, but Sonic 2 was my first of the Genesis/Mega Drive ones, so that's the one I usually go for too.

I haven't played Porsche Unleashed. I had High Stakes I think, which was similar era, which I played quite a bit for a PC game.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 25, 2015, 09:31:16 AM
I played a lot of the Master System ones first


Sonic made his first appearance on the Genesis.  He wasn't a Master System character.

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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 09:32:33 AM
I played a lot of the Master System ones first


Sonic made his first appearance on the Genesis.  He wasn't a Master System character.


I know, I just meant I played the Master System ones before I played any Mega Drive ones. :tup We didn't get a Mega Drive until many years later.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 25, 2015, 09:33:11 AM
:metal Sonic 2. Also my favourite. I played a lot of the Master System ones first, but Sonic 2 was my first of the Genesis/Mega Drive ones, so that's the one I usually go for too.

I haven't played Porsche Unleashed. I had High Stakes I think, which was similar era, which I played quite a bit for a PC game.

Porsche came out right after High Stakes. I really liked High Stakes too.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 25, 2015, 11:17:34 AM
Yea Sonic 2, my fav Sonic!!
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Post by: Outcrier on February 25, 2015, 01:05:03 PM
Both Lion King and Sonic 2 are some of the earliest games i ever played, good stuff :tup
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 25, 2015, 02:23:22 PM
I didn't realize they made any for the Master System.  I thought the Master System died shortly after the release of Sega Genesis (at least it did in the states).
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 25, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
Sonic 2 is sitting on my TV stand right now and always will be.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/IMG_3858_zpscfve9sra.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/phoenix87x/media/IMG_3858_zpscfve9sra.jpg.html)

Sonic 1 was the first video game that I had. I messed with my uncle's NES and stuff but the Genesis was my first console and Sonic 1 was the first game I ever owned. Loved it beyond words.

At age 5, I was at a family members beach house and laid eyes on Sonic 2. I didn't even know there was such thing as sequels and my head exploded is a way that rarely has ever happened in my gaming life.

Chemical plant  :hefdaddy   Love the stage, love the speed, love the music. Probably my favorite stage besides ice cap and stardust speedway.

Sonic 2 was a definitive part of my gaming life and probably why I'm obsessed with motorcycles and snowboarding and anything where I can go real fast.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 25, 2015, 03:27:11 PM
Sonic 2 was another one of the very few games that I had for Genesis. So many memories with it. :hefdaddy

I am ashamed though, to admit that I never did beat the game while collecting all the Chaos Emeralds. :lol I hated those special stages.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 26, 2015, 08:52:28 AM
13. RollerCoaster Tycoon 1/2 (PC 1999)
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This game is a true classic. I think I spent more hours on these two games then any other series. I had to put these two games together because I honestly don't remember when I went from RCT 1 to RCT 2.

The game puts you in control of a theme park, you build rides, food stands, souvenir shops, and best of all rollercoasters for your park. You have challenges with each park that you have to meet to win and unlock other parks. You have a lot of customization with the game and really you can build anything your heart desires.

The best part of the game is building the rollercoasters. I remember staying up until 6 in the morning with my buddy just building the craziest fucking coaster we could think of, thinking of new ways to cause the most amount of casuilties.

There was a certain magic to this game that no other tycoon game has been able to recapture IMO. RCT 3 was a disappointing and I'm very cautious of RCT: World.

12. World Of Warcraft (PC 2004)
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I cannot believe how much time I sunk into this game in High School. I remember getting into the beta shortly before release and I wasn't really too impressed but once the release hit and my friends were able to get a copy the hours just disappeared.

I never played a game so huge and I loved exploring with my buddy for hours on end. It was fun and really rewarding. You really could create any character you wanted and just do whatever you wanted for the most part, that is what I loved about the game. WoW just took gaming to another level for me.

I moved away to college and I stopped playing WoW so I never got to experience any of the expansions. My brother and best buddy still play to this day I logged into my brothers account a few weeks back and the game seems so different to me, it's changed a lot over the years.
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Post by: wizard of Thought on February 26, 2015, 09:21:24 AM
Oh man, I loved Rollercoaster Tycoon 2. Still one of my fav games today. Good choice!
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Post by: Chino on February 26, 2015, 10:26:14 AM
RCT and RCT2 were masterpieces. I'm taken a liking to the 3rd, and I am eagerly awaiting the releases or RCT World.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 26, 2015, 12:53:52 PM
1. Absolutely loved Rollar coaster tycoon. Hours upon hours building stuff. So good

2. Knowing me, and how addicted I'd been to games in the past, I figured it was best just to stay away from WOW. So I never messed with it
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 27, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
11. Goldeneye 64 (N64 1997)
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I wore out so many N64 controllers playing this game.

The game is a movie licensed game and it was fantastically done. The game was also packed with tons of items from previous movies. There were a lot of little details that really made the game feel more alive like checking your health on your watch. The levels were really unique and flowed well you really felt like you playing out the movie. The amount of weapons really impressed me too, you could get a classic Ak47, or go with the one shot kill with the classic golden gun, or maybe set a trap with some proximity mines.

What really set this game apart was the multiplayer. I don't really remember playing any shooters before Goldeneye and we never really played any shooters after getting goldeneye. It was easy to set up, easy to learn and always fun, until one of your friends was oddjob. It seemed like every night my friends and I would get together and played Goldeneye, we make tons of rules up and have hours of fun and it's still fun.

10. Braid (PC 2009)
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"Our world, with its rules of causality, has trained us to be miserly with forgiveness. By forgiving too readily, we can be badly hurt. But if we've learned from a mistake and become better for it, shouldn't we be rewarded for the learning, rather than punished for the mistake?"

This is my favorite 2d platformer of all time and it seemed to come out of no where. I think I saw the game being mentioned on reddit and I ended up purchasing it. The first thing that you notice about this game is that it's gorgeous, it's art style is very lush, almost like a Van Gogh painting. The soundtrack is from Magnatune and is equally as good.

You start off the game in world 2 and you are off to rescue the princess. In this game though you can bend time by simply holding the shift key you can rewind time. The puzzles start off simple at first and get more complicated as the time goes on. I spent hours and hours trying to complete this game only finishing it a month or so after buying the game. I was so pulled in by Braid that I stuck with it when normally I would've gotten bored and moved onto something else.

The story is captivating and fantastic, it's cliche at the beginning but really grips you as time goes on.

If you're a fan of 2d side scrollers GET THIS GAME!!
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Post by: cramx3 on February 27, 2015, 09:55:56 AM
Goldeneye was the beginning of death matches.  So many memories of playing that as a kid with friends.
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Post by: Parama on February 27, 2015, 11:16:39 AM
Braid is fantastic, pretty near flawless marriage of puzzles and 2D platforming gameplay.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 27, 2015, 11:24:40 AM
Forgot to say that there won't be an update tomorrow, I'm going to be out of town but I'll try put up another one tonight.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 27, 2015, 11:59:55 AM
Goldeneye is legendary. Hours up hours playing it
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Post by: Chino on February 27, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
Trapping people via mines in the bathroon of the Facility level was a lot of fun.
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Post by: ariich on February 27, 2015, 01:07:31 PM
Braid was amazing. In terms of the symbolic story going on behind the gameplay, the ending was fairly mindblowing.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 27, 2015, 04:21:37 PM
Can't talk, currently addicted to Braid.
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Post by: ReaperKK on February 27, 2015, 05:06:17 PM
Sweet! How far along are you?
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Post by: Cable on February 27, 2015, 05:40:46 PM
Goldeneye was the beginning of death matches. 


At least Doom1+2 and Quake1 would like a word with this assertion.

Goldeneye was the widespread beginning no doubt though for 1st person shooters on consoles, and the ability to feasibly play with others in person. Doom and Quake were naturally limited due to a small base of users.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 27, 2015, 07:18:08 PM
Goldeneye was the beginning of death matches. 


At least Doom1+2 and Quake1 would like a word with this assertion.

Goldeneye was the widespread beginning no doubt though for 1st person shooters on consoles, and the ability to feasibly play with others in person. Doom and Quake were naturally limited due to a small base of users.

Yes, you are right, I was thinking more along of the lines of consoles
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 27, 2015, 10:11:57 PM
Goldeneye