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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: ProgressiveIce on October 11, 2013, 06:34:59 AM
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We already heard about FII and OIALT getting released on vinyl (OIALT actually came out yesterday), now L@B gets a 4LP release (in about a month) too! I compiled a list of all LP releases in 2013:
Recent DT vinyl releases
Images and Words - Enjoy the Ride/Brookvale - 2013-02-19 [Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Theater-Images-And-Words/release/4303510)]
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Music On Vinyl - 2013-05-23 [Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Theater-Six-Degrees-Of-Inner-Turbulence/release/4598092), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Dream_Theater/Six_Degrees_Of_Inner_Turbulence)]
Images and Words - Music On Vinyl - 2013-06-24 [Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Theater-Images-And-Words/release/4708303), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Dream_Theater/Images_And_Words)]
Octavarium - Atlantic - 2013-09-03 [Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Theater-Octavarium/release/4865378)]
Once in a Livetime - Music On Vinyl - 2013-10-10 [Vinylclub.nl (https://www.vinylclub.nl/page/product/1107877/dream-theater/once-in-a-livetime)]
Falling Into Infinity - Music On Vinyl - 2013-11-04 [Vinylclub.nl (https://www.vinylclub.nl/page/product/1110512/dream-theater/falling-into-infinity)]
Live at Budokan - Music On Vinyl - 2013-11-18 [Vinylclub.nl (https://www.vinylclub.nl/page/product/1119490/dream-theater/live-at-budokan)]
Train of Thought - Music On Vinyl - 2014-01-13 [Vinylclub.nl (https://www.vinylclub.nl/page/product/1138367/dream-theater/train-of-thought)]
Score - Music On Vinyl - 2014-02-10 [Vinylclub.nl (https://www.vinylclub.nl/page/product/1142427/dream-theater/score:-20th-anniversary--)]
Illumination Theory - Atlantic - 2014-04-19 (Record Store Day exclusive release) [recordstoreday.com (https://www.recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/6815)]
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory - Enjoy the Ride - 2014-06-10 [ETR @ DTF (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41698)]
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory - Music On Vinyl - 2014-10-03/06 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory)]
Awake - Enjoy the Ride - 2014-10-17 [ETR @ DTF (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35305.msg1659475#msg1659475), ETR @ DTF #2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg1818481#msg1818481), ETR @ DTF #3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41698.msg1819023#msg1819023), Brookvale (https://brookvalerecords.com/new-dream-theater-details/), Brookvale #2 (https://brookvalerecords.com/dream-theater-gatefolds/), Preorder announcement (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42438)]
Falling Into Infinity - Enjoy the Ride - 2014-10-17 [ETR @ DTF (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg1818481#msg1818481), ETR @ DTF #2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41698.msg1819023#msg1819023), Brookvale (https://brookvalerecords.com/new-dream-theater-details/), Brookvale #2 (https://brookvalerecords.com/dream-theater-gatefolds/), Preorder announcement (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42438)]
Awake - Music On Vinyl - 2014-11-17 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/awake)]
Live At The Marquee - Music On Vinyl - 2015-08-24 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/live-at-the-marquee)]
Images And Words - Music On Vinyl (gold/red mixed vinyl) - 2016-05-20/27? [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/news/metal-mayhem), MOV 2 (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/images-and-words) (note: lists release date of previous pressing)]
Live At The Marquee - Music On Vinyl (red vinyl) - 2016-06-27 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/live-at-the-marquee)]
Awake - Music On Vinyl (silver vinyl) - 2016-07-25 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/awake-coloured)]
Falling Into Infinity - Music On Vinyl (transparent vinyl) - 2016-08-22 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/falling-into-infinity)]
Once In A Livetime - Music On Vinyl (blue vinyl) - 2016-09-19 [Flyer by MOV (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg2192590#msg2192590), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/once-in-a-livetime)]
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory - Music On Vinyl (yellow vinyl) - 2016-10-17 [Flyer by MOV (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg2192590#msg2192590), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory)]
Six Degreees Of Inner Turbulence - Music On Vinyl (orange vinyl) - 2016-11-14 [Flyer by MOV (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg2192590#msg2192590), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/six-degrees-of-inner-turbulence)]
Train Of Thought - Music On Vinyl (white vinyl) - 2016-12-12 [Flyer by MOV (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg2192590#msg2192590), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/train-of-thought)]
Live At Budokan - Music On Vinyl (white vinyl) - 2017-01-20 [Flyer by MOV (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg2192590#msg2192590), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/live-at-budokan)]
Score - Music On Vinyl (gold vinyl) - 2017-02-?? [Flyer by MOV (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39454.msg2192590#msg2192590), MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/score-20th-anniversary-world-tour) (note: lists date of earlier pressing)]
A Change Of Seasons - Music On Vinyl (blue/white vinyl) - 2018-02-16 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/a-change-of-seasons)]
When Dream And Day Unite - Music On Vinyl (red vinyl) - 2018-09-07 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/when-dream-and-day-unite)]
Future DT vinyl releases
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory - Music On Vinyl (orange/gold vinyl) - 2019-02-22 [MOV (https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory)]
This year is fucking awesome, even when ignoring DT12 and LALP. :metal
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Oh, good idea!
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Wow, Live at Budokan too? I almost wish they didn't release these so quickly. They are so expensive since I have to import the Music on Vinyl releases.
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Wow, Live at Budokan too? I almost wish they didn't release these so quickly. They are so expensive since I have to import the Music on Vinyl releases.
They usually pop up on Amazon.
OALT is up there, not available but is 75 bucks! :facepalm:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3NX4XY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2W1I9ED1RUM3F&coliid=ICETAOY7PB5UV
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Wow, Live at Budokan too? I almost wish they didn't release these so quickly. They are so expensive since I have to import the Music on Vinyl releases.
They usually pop up on Amazon.
OALT is up there, not available but is 75 bucks! :facepalm:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3NX4XY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2W1I9ED1RUM3F&coliid=ICETAOY7PB5UV
Haha, yeah, that's more what I mean, is that I have to import the less expensive version. Amazon UK has it for about 40, which is still high, but for a quality 4LP release, I suppose I can't complain. The OCD in me is screaming, but I may have to skip LAB (and Score, if they release that at a later date) because I feel like I would just watch those rather than listen to them. At least Once in a Livetime is mostly different from 5YIAL.
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OALT is down to 61.60 on Amazon preorder.
That's still $10 more than amazon.co.uk at today's exchange rate, though how much does Amazon charge to ship it ?
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OALT is down to 61.60 on Amazon preorder.
That's still $10 more than amazon.co.uk at today's exchange rate, though how much does Amazon charge to ship it ?
My shipping says it is $4.90 on Amazon UK. Don't forget though, that VAT is knocked off once you preorder (as long as you aren't actually in the UK, of course). That basically makes up for the shipping cost. My total bill is $45.82 in US dollars.
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OALT is down to 61.60 on Amazon preorder.
That's still $10 more than amazon.co.uk at today's exchange rate, though how much does Amazon charge to ship it ?
My shipping says it is $4.90 on Amazon UK. Don't forget though, that VAT is knocked off once you preorder (as long as you aren't actually in the UK, of course). That basically makes up for the shipping cost. My total bill is $45.82 in US dollars.
Ah I forgot about VAT.
:omg:
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Two more releases by Music On Vinyl coming up early next year: ToT and Score!
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I saw Train Of Thought yesterday(which I'm not excited for since it's the worst album but I'll still get it), but I didn't know about Score! Can't wait to drop the needle on Another Won. I hate Music On Vinyl's prices, but I have all of their Dream Theater releases so far and they sound perfect, so I'm happy. Really need an Awake reissue though, and A Change Of Seasons on wax would be wonderful.
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Why don't they release them all on HDTracks? I mean, just for the poor guys like me :lol
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Why don't they release them all on HDTracks? I mean, just for the poor guys like me :lol
something tells me it's a rights issue with the old label. all the Roadrunner albums are on HDtracks now, but the older stuff hasn't even been hinted yet it's being licensed to vinyl manufacturers and Jammit. there could be technical reasons too for all we know.
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Got my copies of OIALT and LAB today, FII will arrive on Monday. So far, OIALT sounds good. One thing that caught my eye is the insert, I don't think it was this way on the CD version (Jams LaBri?):
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That's weird... All of the capital E''s, V's, Y's and U's are missing. That's r wird.
-Marc.
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All the names are hacked up... hah
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That's weird... All of the capital E's, Y's and U's are missing. That's vr wird.
-Marc.
John Myung is even weirder, there's not enough spaces between the missing letters to even "fit" right if they were "printed" without ink somehow. Same with Kevin Shirley. I wonder how this happened?
I'll check mine when I get home.
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Wow, Live at Budokan too? I almost wish they didn't release these so quickly. They are so expensive since I have to import the Music on Vinyl releases.
Yeah, including all the new stuff, the vinyls and the concert tickets, I blew like $600 on Dream Theater this year. Have mercy!
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Wow, Live at Budokan too? I almost wish they didn't release these so quickly. They are so expensive since I have to import the Music on Vinyl releases.
Yeah, including all the new stuff, the vinyls and the concert tickets, I blew like $600 on Dream Theater this year. Have mercy!
I'm right there with you. Yowzer.
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My friend and I were wondering what the sound quality was like. Unless it's just the system I played it on, I wasn't too impressed with I&W, but I thought SFAM sounded amazing. Really hoping for great quality...
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Got my copies of OIALT and LAB today, FII will arrive on Monday. So far, OIALT sounds good. One thing that caught my eye is the insert, I don't think it was this way on the CD version (Jams LaBri?):
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I never noticed, but mine is the same way. I'd guess all copies are, something wrong with the printer? I don't have a CD version to compare it to and the cassette version has a different layout.
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So FII arrived today and the first half sounds wonderful (haven't played the rest yet). One thing I noticed is that the version of "You Not Me" is a little longer than the original, during the guitar solo.
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Why don't they release them all on HDTracks? I mean, just for the poor guys like me :lol
Because folks like me (in Europe) can buy the vinyl outside of the USA, but HD Tracks is limited to residents of that country?
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Train of Thought comes out tomorrow. weeoo.
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My least favorite album :-\ I'm still gonna pick it up though for completeness sake.
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They have the listing up on Canadian Amazon but don't have a price yet. I'll pick it up unless they try charging an outrageous rate for it.
Edit: Ordered. Their price isn't great, but not crazy either ($15 less than on US Amazon too).
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Why don't they release them all on HDTracks? I mean, just for the poor guys like me :lol
Because folks like me (in Europe) can buy the vinyl outside of the USA, but HD Tracks is limited to residents of that country?
it's actually not. assuming you're paying with PayPal, you can just leave US as the country and pick a random state. they don't care. i'm in Canada and buy from them just fine.
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They have the listing up on Canadian Amazon but don't have a price yet. I'll pick it up unless they try charging an outrageous rate for it.
Edit: Ordered. Their price isn't great, but not crazy either ($15 less than on US Amazon too).
What did you pay? I used a MOV vendor and paid like 48 shipped for it.
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Wow, in this case living in the Netherlands is cheap. Once in a Livetime would cost me like 25 euro's.
Glad they do this. I'm not one for live recordings on vinyl, but I will surely buy all the studio releases.
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They have the listing up on Canadian Amazon but don't have a price yet. I'll pick it up unless they try charging an outrageous rate for it.
Edit: Ordered. Their price isn't great, but not crazy either ($15 less than on US Amazon too).
What did you pay? I used a MOV vendor and paid like 48 shipped for it.
That seems to be a perfect amount, because I just bought it from Amazon Canada, and after the US conversion fee and shipping, it was $47.78 US dollars!
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They have the listing up on Canadian Amazon but don't have a price yet. I'll pick it up unless they try charging an outrageous rate for it.
Edit: Ordered. Their price isn't great, but not crazy either ($15 less than on US Amazon too).
What did you pay? I used a MOV vendor and paid like 48 shipped for it.
That seems to be a perfect amount, because I just bought it from Amazon Canada, and after the US conversion fee and shipping, it was $47.78 US dollars!
Alright. They offered that price to me without any frame of reference on co.uk, .com or anything. Should be here later this week.
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Awesome! I just "caught up" a little bit and bought FII and ToT. I'm gonna hold out for a slightly lower price on L@B until I buy it.
Score might be a day 1 purchase, though. Oh, and with this purchase, I have every DT album on vinyl except Awake, which should be remedied by EnjoyTheRide's supposed release later this year!
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They have the listing up on Canadian Amazon but don't have a price yet. I'll pick it up unless they try charging an outrageous rate for it.
Edit: Ordered. Their price isn't great, but not crazy either ($15 less than on US Amazon too).
What did you pay? I used a MOV vendor and paid like 48 shipped for it.
After tax and all it came to about $46 CAD. That seems to be the ballpark for what it's going for, looking at what other people have paid at various sellers.
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Awesome! I just "caught up" a little bit and bought FII and ToT. I'm gonna hold out for a slightly lower price on L@B until I buy it.
Score might be a day 1 purchase, though. Oh, and with this purchase, I have every DT album on vinyl except Awake, which should be remedied by EnjoyTheRide's supposed release later this year!
Was there a Live at the Marquee release ever or Live Scenes on Vinyl?
I'll be buying Score when it pops up.
I'll be missing: WDADU, Awake, ACOS on vinyl once I buy Score assuming LATM and LSFNY were never released on vinyl.
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Awesome! I just "caught up" a little bit and bought FII and ToT. I'm gonna hold out for a slightly lower price on L@B until I buy it.
Score might be a day 1 purchase, though. Oh, and with this purchase, I have every DT album on vinyl except Awake, which should be remedied by EnjoyTheRide's supposed release later this year!
Was there a Live at the Marquee release ever or Live Scenes on Vinyl?
I'll be buying Score when it pops up.
I'll be missing: WDADU, Awake, ACOS on vinyl once I buy Score assuming LATM and LSFNY were never released on vinyl.
Oh, I should have clarified that I meant studio album. I was able to pick up WDADU relatively cheap and in good condition on eBay a couple months ago. I did forget about ACOS though. Live at the Marquee does have a Korean vinyl release, but it is usually very expensive. Live Scenes does not have a vinyl release.
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US buyers: The lowest prices I've seen for DT vinyl has been on SoundstageDirect. They also do a great job packing the records and every order over $29.99 gets free shipping, which means all DT records qualify. They sent me a 10% discount code, valid until January 31st, which you can also use if interested: Holiday.
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The Korean only pressing of Live At The Marquee isn't that expensive these days. I paid $30 for mine, which is quite a bit less than the Music On Vinyl releases go for new(I hate MOV's prices, but I'm a Dream Theater fanboy and vinyl nerd so I need these releases). After Train Of Thought, the only Dream Theater vinyl release I'm missing is Awake. One day I'll get it without spending a fortune. :yeahright
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Where did you get it that cheap? eBay?
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Yeah eBay seems to be the only place to find it if you're not in Korea or don't speak Korean. They pop up every once in awhile, in November two sold for reasonable prices(35 and 31) and in October one sold for 45. Whereas the ones listed for 150 didn't sell. You just have to keep your eye on eBay.
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The Korean only pressing of Live At The Marquee isn't that expensive these days. I paid $30 for mine, which is quite a bit less than the Music On Vinyl releases go for new(I hate MOV's prices, but I'm a Dream Theater fanboy and vinyl nerd so I need these releases). After Train Of Thought, the only Dream Theater vinyl release I'm missing is Awake. One day I'll get it without spending a fortune. :yeahright
What about Score? Score is coming soon!
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And Amazon being Amazon has bumped the Canadian price of the Train of Thought vinyl up to about $60 (before tax). They also, once again, didn't bother actually getting them in stock before release day, so while I did lock in the lower price, my estimated ship date is basically "Fucked if we know".
This happened with Six Degrees as well, and will eventually work out, but it's a bit annoying.
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Yeah Amazon sucks for records, don't get me wrong sometimes they'll have good deals but usually not. Shipping is ridiculous too. I ordered Train of Thought from Juno Records in the UK, as they had by far the price at $31.48(totally reasonable). I've never ordered from them before so we'll see how it goes, but I'm not paying $60 on Amazon. My local record store said that was the price for them to special order it for me as well, they don't bring in Music On Vinyl releases because of the astronomical price.
https://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Dream+Theater/
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Are you in Canada? If so, and if that order goes well for you (doesn't take forever, no import fees, etc), I'll definitely give them a shot.
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I'm about 8 hours south of Montreal. Which would make me in the US. :P
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Yeah, I'm definitely giving them, or at least another vinyl specialty place, a shot next time.
While I got the $40 price (still not cheap, but at least not $60), Amazon finally has an estimated delivery date... of somewhere between February 28th and March 17th. :lol
I guess actually stocking items you let people pre-order didn't come up in Business 101.
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I just switched over to Juno Records. Amazing that in the US I can import from the UK cheaper than from Canada :lol (although it does make sense, since the item originates from the UK).
Thanks for the heads up son_ov_hades!
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I just switched over to Juno Records. Amazing that in the US I can import from the UK cheaper than from Canada :lol (although it does make sense, since the item originates from the UK).
I'm getting mine from Jetworld Records here in the states, often for a around a dollar or two plus/minus of amazon.co.uk (with shipping included) but without the long wait.
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I just switched over to Juno Records. Amazing that in the US I can import from the UK cheaper than from Canada :lol (although it does make sense, since the item originates from the UK).
I'm getting mine from Jetworld Records here in the states, often for a around a dollar or two plus/minus of amazon.co.uk (with shipping included) but without the long wait.
I know you mentioned that to me before, but I think you said you paid about $48? This ended up being $41 after shipping. I know its only a seven dollar difference, and the shipping will take a couple extra days, but any money saved helps me out with all this vinyl releases!
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I know you mentioned that to me before, but I think you said you paid about $48? This ended up being $41 after shipping. I know its only a seven dollar difference, and the shipping will take a couple extra days, but any money saved helps me out with all this vinyl releases!
Yeah. I thought you said you paid 47 or maybe that was someone else.
After the headache I went through with OIALT and Amazon.co.uk and having to send it back cuz it got jacked up in transit and them making me send it back on my dime (though they finally did credit me for it)... meh
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I know you mentioned that to me before, but I think you said you paid about $48? This ended up being $41 after shipping. I know its only a seven dollar difference, and the shipping will take a couple extra days, but any money saved helps me out with all this vinyl releases!
Yeah. I thought you said you paid 47 or maybe that was someone else.
After the headache I went through with OIALT and Amazon.co.uk and having to send it back cuz it got jacked up in transit and them making me send it back on my dime (though they finally did credit me for it)... meh
Yeah, I think you might not have caught that I didn't switch to Amazon UK, I switched to Juno Records (also based out of UK), but they have great reviews and should (presumably) know how to correctly package a record. Unless you mean you simply don't want to buy from the UK because of any possible issues, which of course is understandable.
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Yeah, I think you might not have caught that I didn't switch to Amazon UK, I switched to Juno Records (also based out of UK), but they have great reviews and should (presumably) know how to correctly package a record. Unless you mean you simply don't want to buy from the UK because of any possible issues, which of course is understandable.
I saw that, but thought your ToT came from Amazon UK.
Oh well, Jetworld is working for me. He emailed me when he was getting TOT in before he listed them up on Amazon or wherever else he sells.. so I guess I get a little preferential treatment. Who can complain about that?
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Does Jetworld have its own site, or do they mainly sell through other sites? I tried finding a link, but 'Jetworld Records' is surprisingly difficult to google.
The only thing that's keeping these UK sites from being miles ahead of Amazon for me right now is that our Prime Minister is driving the value of our dollar through the floor through his own special blend of incompetence, short-sightedness, and just generally being a dickhead, so the current exchange rate kills it (but wouldn't normally be a problem). Aside from this post, I'll keep politics out of this thread; I just had to vent a little.
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Does Jetworld have its own site, or do they mainly sell through other sites? I tried finding a link, but 'Jetworld Records' is surprisingly difficult to google.
The only thing that's keeping these UK sites from being miles ahead of Amazon for me right now is that our Prime Minister is driving the value of our dollar through the floor through his own special blend of incompetence, short-sightedness, and just generally being a dickhead, so the current exchange rate kills it (but wouldn't normally be a problem). Aside from this post, I'll keep politics out of this thread; I just had to vent a little.
I found them through Amazon when I ordered FII from their third party seller list. Now I just communicate directly with them.
If you'd like I can PM you their contact info. Though I must state they are in the US. So perhaps that's not the best choice anyway, given your profile location.
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I'll give them a look anyway. Never hurts to have more options available.
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I just switched over to Juno Records. Amazing that in the US I can import from the UK cheaper than from Canada :lol (although it does make sense, since the item originates from the UK).
Thanks for the heads up son_ov_hades!
Yeah I'm always shocked when things are cheaper imported from Europe than Canada or even domestic. I just ordered a Pagan Altar record from Iron Bonehead in Germany that ended up being about 20 dollars cheaper than distros in the US! You're quite welcome for the tip. As an experienced(read: obsessive) record buyer I like to share good deals with those who would appreciate them.
Another tip for those looking to order records online: The Metal Detektor searches a bunch of distros and can be very helpful. I've found a lot of cool shops that I'd otherwise not have known about through it. https://themetaldetektor.com/
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I just switched over to Juno Records. Amazing that in the US I can import from the UK cheaper than from Canada :lol (although it does make sense, since the item originates from the UK).
Thanks for the heads up son_ov_hades!
Yeah I'm always shocked when things are cheaper imported from Europe than Canada or even domestic. I just ordered a Pagan Altar record from Iron Bonehead in Germany that ended up being about 20 dollars cheaper than distros in the US! You're quite welcome for the tip. As an experienced(read: obsessive) record buyer I like to share good deals with those who would appreciate them.
Another tip for those looking to order records online: The Metal Detektor searches a bunch of distros and can be very helpful. I've found a lot of cool shops that I'd otherwise not have known about through it. https://themetaldetektor.com/
That's a pretty cool site. I can see myself getting a lot of use out of it.
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MOV wil print also Live At The Maruqee? when?
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Is that so? I haven't heard that yet. Although I have the original Korean version I'd still get the Music On Vinyl pressing, I can't help myself. I mean hell, I have three different pressings of Images And Words :lol
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My copy of Train of Thought came today! No better feeling than adding to the collection. It came in one of the horrible thin British LP mailers as I assumed it would coming from Juno in the UK. But it showed up in absolute mint condition, everything was perfect. So it seems you can't beat Juno Records, best prices and solid packaging. I'm impressed again with the product Music On Vinyl has delivered. The jacket is nice and glossy with very clear images, although it would have been nice to have a gatefold. It comes with a nice insert that contains all the lyrics. As for the vinyl itself I'm only on side B(Endless Sacrifice playing at the moment), but so far it sounds fantastic. A whole world of difference from my only other copy, which is a cassette :lol. The mastering seems to be nice and dynamic and not brick walled, this had to have been mastered from the original high resolution recordings. All in all very happy with it, but I probably won't play this record a lot as I don't like Train Of Thought that much.
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Looks fantastic. Can't wait for my copy to get here.
Has anyone heard any update on the Awake and Falling Into Infinity releases from Enjoy The Ride?
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Enjoy The Ride posted a thread looking for photos of the Awake center labels for their reissue. I'd guess that means they're working on it at the moment.
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Score is on the way to me. Amazon.co.uk had it cheaper than Juno and my state side source this time. Just about $50 shipped, versus $55(Juno) and $60 (stateside)
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I got Score the other day, the packaging is great as always from Music On Vinyl. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but I'll give it a spin tonight and post some thoughts.
I really hope someone is going to press A Change Of Seasons and Live Scenes From New York on vinyl soon. At the moment I have every Dream Theater album that is on vinyl, but it somehow feels incomplete with out these two. :(
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So for Record Store Day 2014 DT will have Illumination Theory on a picture disc! :metal
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just saw this, so excited :hefdaddy
hopefully the philly stores will actually get some ::)
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just saw this, so excited :hefdaddy
hopefully the philly stores will actually get some ::)
Yeah I have one store in the area. They failed to get me a copy of a Phish LP last year (they got zero!)... so I hope they'll get this, I've asked them to (along with some others)
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I'm gonna be out of the country on record store day :'( I seriously hope I can find a copy without paying ridiculous ebay prices. What's gonna be the B side I wonder? Illumination Theory is only one side long. Maybe a live version?
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I don't put much hope in it having a b-side. It's a miracle DT's even doing this. Most bands don't care about b-sides anymore. End of an era.
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Rush had a picture disc of The Garden last year and the B side was a live version from the Clockwork Angels tour. B sides might be dead in the industry, but record store day is by and for vinyl nerds. I'd be shocked if there wasn't a b side.
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great news Illumination Theoey in vinyl...waiting for some update
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Of course, the ultimate miracle would be a new song on the b-side! A 1-2 day "write and record" song would be a good challenge.
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I hope the B-side is just an instrumental version of Illumination Theory, honestly.
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someone have any news of Illumination Theory vinyl? I don't find anyhwere (roadrunner,etc...)
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Its a record store day release. The list of releases for that day hasn't officially been announced yet, once it is you'll be able to find more information about it.
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One thing I noticed is that the version of "You Not Me" is a little longer than the original, during the guitar solo.
Wait, is this for real? I'd be interested to hear this.
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One thing I noticed is that the version of "You Not Me" is a little longer than the original, during the guitar solo.
Wait, is this for real? I'd be interested to hear this.
It's different from the CD version I've had since the album was originally released.
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So after I bit the bullet and grabbed a first pressing of Awake on EBay, I am now only two vinyl releases (WDADU and FII) away from having every DT studio release on vinyl. I also have Score on vinyl which sounds great. Not gonna lie, it feels pretty great to have this much DT wax in my collection. Now I need to listen to all of it and take a stab at ranking the albums (let's just start with they all have something compelling to offer).
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So after I bit the bullet and grabbed a first pressing of Awake on EBay, I am now only two vinyl releases (WDADU and FII) away from having every DT studio release on vinyl. I also have Score on vinyl which sounds great. Not gonna lie, it feels pretty great to have this much DT wax in my collection. Now I need to listen to all of it and take a stab at ranking the albums (let's just start with they all have something compelling to offer).
Nice! I finally got Awake a month or so ago, its by far the best sounding record I've ever heard :hefdaddy. When Dream And Day Unite isn't terribly hard to find, and Falling Into Infinity just came out a few months ago so you should be good. I have every Dream Theater release that is on vinyl except for the seemingly non-existent Pull Me Under single, which I'm still not sure is real. I'm working on vinyl compilations that have Dream Theater songs now, I'm crazy. :lol
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Just bought the vinyl of Octovarium. Looks like a nice package! Looking forward to listening to it, but unfortunately I won't be near a proper vinyl player any time soon.
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In my opinion Octavarium is the worst sounding Dream Theater record unfortunately. It is a very nice package, but the master leaves a lot to be desired.
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Just bought the vinyl of Octovarium. Looks like a nice package! Looking forward to listening to it, but unfortunately I won't be near a proper vinyl player any time soon.
You're in for a treat. The vinyl sounds great, and yeah, the packaging is a thing of beauty.
(Also, great avatar. The Last of Us was fantastic!).
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Looks like I'm going out for Record Store day...
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Doesn't look like the IT pic disc has a b-side.
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Just bought the vinyl of Octovarium. Looks like a nice package! Looking forward to listening to it, but unfortunately I won't be near a proper vinyl player any time soon.
You're in for a treat. The vinyl sounds great, and yeah, the packaging is a thing of beauty.
(Also, great avatar. The Last of Us was fantastic!).
Yes, I was in for a treat! The sound is fantastic. It was also a quite while ago that I listened to 8VM for the last time, so this release rekindled my love for this album :metal
My aim is to get all main albums of DT on vinyl. Now I only have IAW (music on vinyl), 8VM and DT12, so I still have a long road and a lot of my money to go I guess :P At least the music on vinyl releases are pretty easy to get by here.
(And yes The Last Of Us is a piece of art ;D)
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(https://s3.amazonaws.com/broadtime_photo/418455874800)
HNNGGGG
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(https://s3.amazonaws.com/broadtime_photo/418455874800)
HNNGGGG
But what is the B-side? ???
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(https://s3.amazonaws.com/broadtime_photo/418455874800)
HNNGGGG
But what is the B-side? ???
It is a picture disc, so it has only one side ;)
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It is a picture disc, so it has only one side ;)
Being a picture disc certainly does not disqualify it from having a B side. In fact I've never seen a single sided picture disc before, I'm sure they exist but I have tons of picture discs and not one is single sided. That said this seems to be single sided, there is no mention of anything other than Illumination Theory. If that's the case its extremely disappointing and a sad cash grab. They know Dream Theater fanboys will buy it even though they already have the album. The thing about record store day is that its supposed to be about celebrating vinyl nerds, not milking them for every dollar you can. Just throwing Illumination Theory on a 12" with nothing else just seems incredibly lazy to me. Of course I'll still buy it, I'm part of the problem. :blush
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They should be You Not Me on the B side
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It is a picture disc, so it has only one side ;)
Being a picture disc certainly does not disqualify it from having a B side. In fact I've never seen a single sided picture disc before, I'm sure they exist but I have tons of picture discs and not one is single sided. That said this seems to be single sided, there is no mention of anything other than Illumination Theory. If that's the case its extremely disappointing and a sad cash grab. They know Dream Theater fanboys will buy it even though they already have the album. The thing about record store day is that its supposed to be about celebrating vinyl nerds, not milking them for every dollar you can. Just throwing Illumination Theory on a 12" with nothing else just seems incredibly lazy to me. Of course I'll still buy it, I'm part of the problem. :blush
Oh wow, I did not know that! My dad only has a few at home and they do not have a B-side. My bad, really thought that was normal.
Then it is indeed a pretty easy moneygrab. And one I want :biggrin:
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Yeah picture discs are no different than any other record, except of course that instead of solid or some pattern color on the wax it has artwork. I have to have it unfortunately, my collection is complete otherwise and my obsessive nature won't let this go :lol
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It is a picture disc, so it has only one side ;)
Being a picture disc certainly does not disqualify it from having a B side. In fact I've never seen a single sided picture disc before, I'm sure they exist but I have tons of picture discs and not one is single sided. That said this seems to be single sided, there is no mention of anything other than Illumination Theory. If that's the case its extremely disappointing and a sad cash grab. They know Dream Theater fanboys will buy it even though they already have the album. The thing about record store day is that its supposed to be about celebrating vinyl nerds, not milking them for every dollar you can. Just throwing Illumination Theory on a 12" with nothing else just seems incredibly lazy to me. Of course I'll still buy it, I'm part of the problem. :blush
Since picture discs (IMO, anyway) are not really meant to be played...I think it could be argued that what you're buying is a sortof "coffee table piece"...if you're a music fan, it is a piece of art (like a painting or a sculpture) that is put on display and actually has some value to those who find value in that genre of "art pieces"
Hey...for some people it's collectible plates. Who am I to judge? Heck, if I had taken better care of my original Creeping Death picture disc (with the original Garage Days on the B-side) I would be sitting on a pretty valuable piece of real estate right now.
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Anyone who buys records to look at them is an idiot imo. Collect actual fine art in that case. I also never understand the whole "playing a record ruins it" idea. I have records that are 40+ years old, have been played countless times, and are in absolutely great shape. Picture discs are no different, I've got Judas Priest's Sad Wings Of Destiny picture disc from 1982 that looks and sounds flawless. If you have a half decent turntable and don't treat your records like shit playing them will not deteriorate them at all(barring old shellac 78s and vinyl records that were made like shit).
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Anyone who buys records to look at them is an idiot imo. Collect actual fine art in that case. I also never understand the whole "playing a record ruins it" idea. I have records that are 40+ years old, have been played countless times, and are in absolutely great shape. Picture discs are no different, I've got Judas Priest's Sad Wings Of Destiny picture disc from 1982 that looks and sounds flawless. If you have a half decent turntable and don't treat your records like shit playing them will not deteriorate them at all(barring old shellac 78s and vinyl records that were made like shit).
Well...I think records should be listened to as well. I have a few very valuable pieces that I pull out from time to time, because to a certain extent, I do feel like you do. The art is there to be enjoyed....enjoy it.
But don't kid yourself. Any time you play a record, there is friction involved. Basic science will tell you that a record *DOES* deteriorate every time it's played. Now, it may be so gradual so as to be practically imperceptible....but make no mistake...it does happen.
That being said, I have some albums pressed in the late 60's and early 70's that sound better at 40 years old than many new albums sound that are freshly pressed. I haven't figured that one out yet.
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But don't kid yourself. Any time you play a record, there is friction involved. Basic science will tell you that a record *DOES* deteriorate every time it's played. Now, it may be so gradual so as to be practically imperceptible....but make no mistake...it does happen.
Sure every piece of physical material deteriorates on some level. But like I said, if you have a half decent turntable with a back weighted tone arm and a quality diamond stylus the amount of deterioration is like you said imperceptible. This is no different than cds in that way, the only medium that is impervious to any deterioration is digital files.
That being said, I have some albums pressed in the late 60's and early 70's that sound better at 40 years old than many new albums sound that are freshly pressed. I haven't figured that one out yet.
That's largely because the recording, mixing, and mastering was an all analog chain in those days. Nowadays there is some step that is digital almost always. Hell very few pressing plants accept anything other than FLAC or CD masters for cutting lacquers anymore.
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Add to that, the factor that it was always my impression (and I seriously wouldn't mind being proven wrong) the the vinyl used in pressing picture discs is of a much lower quality...especially from the classic era...mostly just because they were (and mostly still are) viewed as novelty collectibles...and not usually sought out for the quality of the sound.
As an aside. I used to have the Slayer "Live Undead" picture disc. This version had an extended version of "Show No Mercy" with a pretty badass 2 minute drum solo by Dave Lombardo before the song started. I have never heard this version on any re-release of the album. As far as I know, it only exists on the old picture disc version, which I lost years ago.
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Add to that, the factor that it was always my impression (and I seriously wouldn't mind being proven wrong) the the vinyl used in pressing picture discs is of a much lower quality...especially from the classic era...mostly just because they were (and mostly still are) viewed as novelty collectibles...and not usually sought out for the quality of the sound.
I've heard a bunch of vinyl nerds say that straight black or clear wax sounds the best. According to the theory bright colors create more surface noise, I'm not sure why, which would mean picture discs with a ton of color have a lot of surface noise. Could be, but I have no idea.
As an aside. I used to have the Slayer "Live Undead" picture disc. This version had an extended version of "Show No Mercy" with a pretty badass 2 minute drum solo by Dave Lombardo before the song started. I have never heard this version on any re-release of the album. As far as I know, it only exists on the old picture disc version, which I lost years ago.
I have that record, the original 1985 metal blade picture disc pressing. What a fucking album! I wish they'd recorded more live songs instead of putting studio cuts on the b side. Slayer was unstoppable back then! I had no idea that the drum solo was taken out of subsequent reissues, I've only ever heard the original pressing. What possible reason would they have for cutting it?
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Seems that the vinyl will be only printed in US... :angry:
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Seems that the vinyl will be only printed in US... :angry:
Damn really? I guess my plan of going to a record store in Turkey is shot then. :'(
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I picked up a copy of FII a few days ago so I am now just short WDADU in terms of studio albums on vinyl (psyched). W/r/t the Illumination Theory picture disc for RSD, I just can't justify it. I have the same song on vinyl already and like other posters, it seems silly to me to buy a record to look at (different strokes). If there was a live track or something that was unreleased on the flip side, I would be all over it but I can't rationalize plopping down $40 for a picture disc of something I already have.
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I would be all over it but I can't rationalize plopping down $40 for a picture disc of something I already have.
Hmm, my local record store has it listed to come out at $13.99? Where did you see $40?
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Yeah a record store in my area has it for $12.99, which is still too much for a redundant record that I'll still buy. I have three copies of Images And Words and dropped stupid money on Awake, so I have no room to talk. :lol
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I would be all over it but I can't rationalize plopping down $40 for a picture disc of something I already have.
Hmm, my local record store has it listed to come out at $13.99? Where did you see $40?
Whoops, my bad. I thought I saw it listed for $40.00 somewhere. Either way, I still won't buy it as I already have IT on vinyl. I already spent a pretty penny gettting SFAM and Awake off of Ebay. DT is going to take enough of my money tonight in Boston (first show so will probably drop some ducats at the merch table in true noob fashion).
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It's been a while since I've been active on here. Great to see that the thread is still going strong. :)
I hope that some record store in Switzerland will sell the IT LP, but it doesn't seem like it. :(
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Adding something exclusive on the b-side would give fans more incentive to buy it!
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**hint hint, nudge nudge** DT. :angel:
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Got my RSD vinyl, but we're in the middle of moving so not sure when I'll get to listen to it.
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i got one too :metal
out of curiosity, what did yours cost? my friend got his for 12 but mine was 20. still pretty cheap tho.
also got btbam's Colors Live on red vinyl :hefdaddy
wanted Opeth's Watershed on green vinyl but everyone in philly sold out of it :tdwn
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Got mine Saturday for $12.
Of course you can get one easily from ebay for more than that (in some cases a lot more.) I just checked.
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i got one too :metal
out of curiosity, what did yours cost? my friend got his for 12 but mine was 20. still pretty cheap tho.
also got btbam's Colors Live on red vinyl :hefdaddy
wanted Opeth's Watershed on green vinyl but everyone in philly sold out of it :tdwn
I have no idea. I'll have to look when I get home
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Anyone got a recommendation where to buy one in Europe? I checked with the record stores in the area, none of them sold any. :tdwn Some copies on eBay and Discogs are reasonably priced (around $13), but those are all in the US, so the shipping is exorbitant...
Edit: I ended up getting a reasonably priced copy on eBay for $10.99 + $10 shipping.
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Any news on the Awake re-issue?
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Nope, apart from ETR asking for photos of the labels back in January (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40545) (which you already know about, but others might not).
They announced (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41698) a reissue of Metropolis Pt. 2 a few days ago. I'll definitely get that one - as son_ov_hades said there, I "can never have enough copies of my favorite album on my favorite format". :)
If anyone in Europe is still looking for a reasonably priced copy of the IT RSD release, the offer I mentioned above ($10.99 + $10 shipping) is available again: https://www.ebay.com/itm/351088639100
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I have the MOV I&W issue and side 1 is way off center! Anyone else have this issue? It's also got a LOT of surface noise.
I have a sealed copy of Score and was considering selling it. Any reason I shouldn't?
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What do you mean by "off center"? I'm really happy with the Music On Vinyl pressings, Score included. But if you don't want it, I see no reason to keep it.
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By which I mean the grooves were not concentric with the spindle hole, meaning that every revolution, the tonearm would move a bit laterally (quite noticable on speeds greater than 33+1/3). As it moved in and out, the linear velocity would change ever so slightly. By the time you've reached the long chords in surrounded the pitch was increasing then decreasing about a half step each way every .55 seconds.
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That sounds crazy and I've never seen a record like that. I've got 1000+ records, tons are warped and a bunch have pressing errors but nothing like that. I've seen the tonearm move up and down, but never side to side. ???
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I've heard that it's not too rare, and that it's often the whole batch that is tainted. I think I have video of it somewhere. Anyway I boared out the hole a bit and it's better. Not perfect, but better.
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Nope, apart from ETR asking for photos of the labels back in January (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40545) (which you already know about, but others might not).
They announced (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41698) a reissue of Metropolis Pt. 2 a few days ago. I'll definitely get that one - as son_ov_hades said there, I "can never have enough copies of my favorite album on my favorite format". :)
If anyone in Europe is still looking for a reasonably priced copy of the IT RSD release, the offer I mentioned above ($10.99 + $10 shipping) is available again: https://www.ebay.com/itm/351088639100
Both Awake and FII repressed on Black, White and 3 Color Vinyl (2 color swirl with splatter) will be available sometime in the later summer/early fall via Brookvale Records Webstore and some retail but the color will be exclusive to ONLINE
Also We just repressed Metropolis part 2: Scenes from a memory for anyone who is interested...They went on sale earlier today
https://brookvalerecords.bigcartel.com/product/dream-theater-metropolis-pt-2-scenes-from-a-memory-180-gram-black-vinyl
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Test presses for both FII & awake were mailed to us today & will be reviewed next week once they arrive....for those interested.
After almost two years, these re-issues are finally coming to fruition. I will post any further updates on pre order and what not in the coming weeks assuming the test presses are approved
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Here are some photos of the test pressing for BOTH "Awake" & "Falling into infinity represses"
https://instagram.com/p/rR8bmeCm6x/?modal=true
I will be posting an official announcement with on sale info soon but heres a sneak preview.
They should both be available, in hand & shipping in mid october but will likely do a pre sale before then
ALSO FOR UP UPDATES UP TO DATE INFO ON BOTH THESE RE-ISSUES PLEASE FOLLOW ENJOY THE RIDE RECORDS ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA
WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ENJOYTHERIDERECORDS
INSTAGRAM- @ENJOYTHERIDERECORDS
TWITTER @EnjoytherideRES
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/enjoytheriderecords
Or i can be reached at Enjoytheriderecords@gmail.com
I will have 5 test presses for Trade (for other test presses preferred) or for sale once the final releases arrive so if interested then email or Private message me here to discuss. We are getting custom hand screen printed & numbered jackets made up as well but are in the process of being designed
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Brookvale released some news on these reissues a few days ago:
https://brookvalerecords.com/new-dream-theater-details/
https://brookvalerecords.com/dream-theater-gatefolds/
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(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3837/15206433040_c078349475_b.jpg)
will be on sale 10.17 via https://enjoytheride.storenvy.com/ & Brookvale records webstore
We will also have a couple test presses for trade or sale, again with screen printed jackets & hand numbered /24
The web exclusive variants are
Awake......Gold/Grey Swirl with Electric Blue Splatter which should match the cover perfectly
&
Falling Into Infinity- Ocean Blue swirl (Light & Dark Blue meant to resememble ocean waves) with White Splatter
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wow, the FII splatter looks REALLY good.
sucks that y'all had to split HK and LITS, though...
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Those splatter colored vinyls are some the best looking vinyls I've ever seen, especially the FII one. Will definitely purchase those! :tup
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Music On Vinyl is also going to reissue Awake soon, namely in November: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/awake
They'll also release a SFAM reissue a week from now: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory
I find their release dates quite interesting: their Awake release is due 2014-11-17, exactly one month after ETR's release becomes available, and the SFAM release is released on October 6 when ETR's release was on June 10 (month and day swapped). Coincidence?
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Music On Vinyl is also going to reissue Awake soon, namely in November: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/awake
They'll also release a SFAM reissue a week from now: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory
I find their release dates quite interesting: their Awake release is due 2014-11-17, exactly one month after ETR's release becomes available, and the SFAM release is released on October 6 when ETR's release was on June 10 (month and day swapped). Coincidence?
Awesome! I like the MOV releases a lot.
I would be interested in a Enjoy the Ride version of Awake (I have no experience with them), but Europe only gets a white one (I prefer having my vinyls in the good old black, unless there is some deeper reason to have a certain color).
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wow, the FII splatter looks REALLY good.
sucks that y'all had to split HK and LITS, though...
This! It would've been the ultimate vinyl side had it been the complete run of BMS-HK-LITS.
-Marc.
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I burned a boot CD and had to split The Mirror/Lie. Just the way it goes.
Music On Vinyl is also going to reissue Awake soon, namely in November: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/awake
They'll also release a SFAM reissue a week from now: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory
I find their release dates quite interesting: their Awake release is due 2014-11-17, exactly one month after ETR's release becomes available, and the SFAM release is released on October 6 when ETR's release was on June 10 (month and day swapped). Coincidence?
Awesome! I like the MOV releases a lot.
I would be interested in a Enjoy the Ride version of Awake (I have no experience with them), but Europe only gets a white one (I prefer having my vinyls in the good old black, unless there is some deeper reason to have a certain color).
ETR claims to have superior releases. That's a no-duh statement from an advertising standpoint they claim to have a better proprocess. Perhaps he can elaborate here.
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I burned a boot CD and had to split The Mirror/Lie. Just the way it goes.Music On Vinyl is also going to reissue Awake soon, namely in November: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/awake
They'll also release a SFAM reissue a week from now: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory
I find their release dates quite interesting: their Awake release is due 2014-11-17, exactly one month after ETR's release becomes available, and the SFAM release is released on October 6 when ETR's release was on June 10 (month and day swapped). Coincidence?
Awesome! I like the MOV releases a lot.
I would be interested in a Enjoy the Ride version of Awake (I have no experience with them), but Europe only gets a white one (I prefer having my vinyls in the good old black, unless there is some deeper reason to have a certain color).
ETR claims to have superior releases. That's a no-duh statement from an advertising standpoint they claim to have a better proprocess. Perhaps he can elaborate here.
Ah, interesting. But yeah, maybe I will try to get my hands on the white vinyl anyways. I have no clue which EU retailers (Dutch?) are included, however. My guess is not a lot, as it is pretty limited.
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Just in case someone missed it: the Awake and FII splatter LPs are available for preorder: https://enjoytheride.storenvy.com/ and/or https://brookvalerecords.bigcartel.com/
See also https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42438
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DAMMIT! Moving the preorder to when I'm broke... why I oughta...
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I just ordered I&W, SFAM, and LAB. Pretty sure they are all 180 gram. I can't for them to arrive :metal :metal I'm really looking forward to hearing how LAB sounds. That's easily my favorite DT release.
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Got a copy of Score on vinyl for Christmas and finally got around to listening to it last night (up through Six Degrees Part 1). It all sounded great, but was a bit confused at the way some of the songs were altered. Another Won, for example, at the end of the song, rather than just fading out before the band starts Afterlife, there's a surge of crowd noise that fades out instead of the song itself. Then on the fliip side, Afterlife is missing the first 5 beats of the song (the four beat count off, and then the first beat of the song). It just starts right away with the guitar riff. Sounded very strange. A similar thing happened with Raise the Knife where the beginning was cut off (I imagine due to time constraints). Anyone else noticing differences between the vinyls and their CD counterparts?
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Got a copy of Score on vinyl for Christmas and finally got around to listening to it last night (up through Six Degrees Part 1). It all sounded great, but was a bit confused at the way some of the songs were altered. Another Won, for example, at the end of the song, rather than just fading out before the band starts Afterlife, there's a surge of crowd noise that fades out instead of the song itself. Then on the fliip side, Afterlife is missing the first 5 beats of the song (the four beat count off, and then the first beat of the song). It just starts right away with the guitar riff. Sounded very strange. A similar thing happened with Raise the Knife where the beginning was cut off (I imagine due to time constraints). Anyone else noticing differences between the vinyls and their CD counterparts?
Thanks for posting this. I'm quite worried about stuff like this, especially with Score being so enormous(ly expensive). I'd consider the info you posted a dealbreaker. It doesn't even make sense with the songs you mentioned, since there were an extra couple of minutes usable on those sides to ensure nothing had to be cut it's completely unnecessary.
If you don't mind, could you please post this on the Discogs entry (https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Theater-Score-20th-Anniversary-World-Tour/release/5399590)? People need to know.
In terms of other changes, the splitting of "Hell's Kitchen" and "Lines in the Sand" comes to mind, but that was actually done properly no shitty cuts or fades, just the actual songs 'cropped' from one another. There's even a bit of gurgly synth stuff at the very start of LITS you'd never hear on the CD because of the loud end of HK. I was pleasantly surprised... too bad the cover art is marred by scanner moirι.
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Got a copy of Score on vinyl for Christmas and finally got around to listening to it last night (up through Six Degrees Part 1). It all sounded great, but was a bit confused at the way some of the songs were altered. Another Won, for example, at the end of the song, rather than just fading out before the band starts Afterlife, there's a surge of crowd noise that fades out instead of the song itself. Then on the fliip side, Afterlife is missing the first 5 beats of the song (the four beat count off, and then the first beat of the song). It just starts right away with the guitar riff. Sounded very strange. A similar thing happened with Raise the Knife where the beginning was cut off (I imagine due to time constraints). Anyone else noticing differences between the vinyls and their CD counterparts?
Wow. I've held off on the vinyl because because I never found any information on mastering and sourcing.
Adding this to the concern pile.
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Damn, should've followed through with that trade with you when I initiated it two years ago!
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True, though I haven't heard of any further vinyl reissues than those listed in the OP. Were there any? (Note that I never intended to list entirely new releases like DT12 and TA.)
I don't think I'll attempt building a list of all vinyl releases (i.e. including the original pressings of Awake/LATM etc.) for now since I already have another project going that will probably cover this. Expect a thread about that in half a year or so.
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Got a copy of Score on vinyl for Christmas and finally got around to listening to it last night (up through Six Degrees Part 1). It all sounded great, but was a bit confused at the way some of the songs were altered. Another Won, for example, at the end of the song, rather than just fading out before the band starts Afterlife, there's a surge of crowd noise that fades out instead of the song itself. Then on the fliip side, Afterlife is missing the first 5 beats of the song (the four beat count off, and then the first beat of the song). It just starts right away with the guitar riff. Sounded very strange. A similar thing happened with Raise the Knife where the beginning was cut off (I imagine due to time constraints). Anyone else noticing differences between the vinyls and their CD counterparts?
Wow. I've held off on the vinyl because because I never found any information on mastering and sourcing.
Adding this to the concern pile.
The Music On Vinyl (MOV) vinyls are direct transfers from the CD source. The Enjoy the Ride records are remastered for vinyl as far as I know.
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MOV has been fucking with the recordings to better fit a cheap pressing, gutting a measure here or there and such. The pressings were badly done too; Images and Words was off center to the point of notable pitch changing and it took a bit of fuckery with an Xacto knife to get it tolerable.
I've heard that ETR also just takes CD masters but I'm not sure. This could've been a complaint about it only being 44.1 or something, was a while ago.
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MOV has been fucking with the recordings to better fit a cheap pressing, gutting a measure here or there and such. The pressings were badly done too; Images and Words was off center to the point of notable pitch changing and it took a bit of fuckery with an Xacto knife to get it tolerable.
I've heard that ETR also just takes CD masters but I'm not sure. This could've been a complaint about it only being 44.1 or something, was a while ago.
The ETR website says FII and Awake were remastered for vinyl. I don't think SFAM and Images were remastered though.
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I&W was remastered as well. The Discogs user MTC47 posted this on the history page for the black vinyl version: "Through email exchange with Sterling Sounds and some very helpful research on their part I have confirmed that this is in fact a remastered edition, with the vinyl mastering for this remaster done by Dave Marino (3) for Enjoy The Ride & Brookvale."
AFAIK, SFAM wasn't remastered though.
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Sweet! Thanks for the info. I wonder if Mr. Marino did FII and Awake as well
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No idea. I couldn't even find anything about whether they were also remastered at Sterling Sound. Someone at ETR/Brookvale probably knows. Might be worth asking Ross Shotland about it.
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I just picked up the new DT from my local store! Very nice and sturdy 4 LP box set. I uploaded a small video showing off the contents ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDf9Qyz3IWs
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Quick update: I just read that there will be another reissue of IAW by Music On Vinyl in 2-3 weeks, this time on 180g coloured vinyl (gold and red mixed) and limited to 2000 copies. I can't find a proper source for this though, just listings on some webstores and on eBay (e.g. here (https://www.whatrecords.co.uk/items/71585.htm) and here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/121979750407)). I'll update the OP when some solid source surfaces.
The details of this reissue are suspiciously similar to those of the ETR reissue from a few years ago. The quality will probably be just as poor as on the other MOV reissues though.
Edit: Actually, I just found a source: https://www.musiconvinyl.com/news/metal-mayhem
Looks like there are more "limited edition" reissues to come from MOV, too.
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Is there a consensus on which DT vinyl pressings are essential? As far as sound goes. I don't care about special numberings or colors or anything like that.
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I'd say anything from SC to DTXII, but you could also just get those on HDTracks.
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If you go for SC, be careful with which version you buy. The original US release has a pressing error: there's TMOLS instead of ITPOE 2 on the D side. I believe that the heavy vinyl US release doesn't have that error. Not sure if there's a later, corrected repress on normal-weight vinyl. The German pressing is also fine.
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The quality will probably be just as poor as on the other MOV reissues though.
Poor? I read about some editing quirks on Score but the proper studio albums I've only seen positivity about.
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Poor? I read about some editing quirks on Score but the proper studio albums I've only seen positivity about.
I never searched for opinions or compared them myself, but I've heard several people complain about surface noise and audio quality (including in this thread). And at least the audio complaints make a lot of sense considering that MOV uses the CD masters rather than a proper vinyl mastering.
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I've got I&W, LAB, and SFAM on 180g vinyl and love them all.
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ETR does it right. MOV does it cheaply.
My MOV I&W was pressed off center, which caused the pitch to go up and down in every revolution.
The master is the same on the CD. The only upshot of the vinyl is in the novelty, but we all know the downsides of vinyl as a medium.
Score is not the only one with "quirky" editing. Entire drum fills were removed from Trial of Tears, and I'm pretty sure I'd notice more gaps if I listened to FII more often.
If you're listening at a high volume you hear weird drop outs between tracks; I assume this has something to do with you being able to see where tracks change.
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Entire drum fills were removed from Trial of Tears
As in THE drum fills?!
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No, it's one measure in the beginning. Maybe I'll demonstrate some time.
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Yeah, you're gonna have to provide an example. I just compared a vinyl rip side-by-side with the CD version and aside from the time stretching caused by the variable vinyl playback speed, all the fills are exactly where they should be right up to the 6:11ish section change.
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I found a local record shop that has the FII (ETR) aqua/white splash vinyl in stock for $27.99. Picking it up later today. Whoo hoo!
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As you may have noticed, I'm updating the OP regularly with the new MOV releases as I come across them. Please let me know if I missed anything; I want to keep this thread as complete as possible.
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I got an email from Recordstore.co.uk and they are releasing a clear FII vinyl.
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Yep, that's the second MOV release I added to the OP just a few hours ago. :smiley:
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I didn't realize the first page was massively updated. Thanks.
I will wait for the Enjoy the Ride records releases. The quality of ETR seems to be superior than the MOV releases.
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I wish instead of different versions of existing vinyls that somebody would put out ACOS, even if just the title track and not the entire EP. It is the only DT studio material that I don't have on vinyl.
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Just arrived my Live at the Marquee from MOV and inside was all the vinyls that MOV will re-issue:
Images & Words - LP Gold and Solid Red Mix (May 2016)
Live At The Marquee - Solid Red Vinyl (June 2016)
Awake - Silver Coulored Vinyl (25 july 2015)
Falling Into Infinity - White Coulored Vinyl (August 2016)
Once In A Livetime - Blu Coulored Vinyl (September 2016)
Metropolis Pt 2: Scenes From A Memory - Yellow Coulored Vinyl (October 2016)
Six Degreees Of Inner Turbulence - Orange Coulored Vinyl (November 2016)
Train Of Thought - White Coulored Vinyl (December 2016)
Live At Budokan - White Coulored Vinyl (Januart 2017)
Score - Gold Coulored Vinyl (February 2017)
I read somewhere, the ETR will not publish any DT vinyls in the future, but I don't remember the reason :-(
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Thanks. Weird that they call FII "white" here, but maybe they changed the colour last-minute?
Added those to the list. :smiley:
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Even though I can't afford them, love seeing all the colored vinyl! Take a lesson from them RR!
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Score is on vinyl?!! That is one of my favorite live albums!
I have Images and Words on vinyl, one of the best vinyl packagings I have seen in 2010's vinyl and one of the best sounding as well
Metropolis Part II I got a while ago but I still love it! The ending is fixed so the static plays on forever until you take the needle off. Very smart. Very beatles of you :P
And I also got Dream Theater on vinyl, I know a lot of people don't like the album but honestly, I think it's more Dream Theater than The Astonishing would ever be -.- Songs like The Looking Glass, the bigger picture, and the epic Illumination Theory keeps me coming back for me!
Ones I still want to get are Falling into Infinity (colored if possible) and Six Degrees. Everything else is give or take for me.
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It would be nice if the coloured copies drove down the price of the black pressings. MOV is way too expensive. I doubt it'll happen, but there's a glimmer of hope somewhere!
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I guess you're talking about US imports? The prices are pretty normal here in Europe.
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I guess you're talking about US imports? The prices are pretty normal here in Europe.
Yes. They're double what it costs in NA for vinyl. Atrocious considering MOV don't exactly have a history of spotless pressings. I'd understand if the price increase was because of quality control, but it's definitely not.
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Hmm. Shipping from Europe is not that expensive; for example, JPC (a large German music retailer) ships to the US for €13, apparently independently of what you order. So it probably isn't the shipping.
Customs perhaps? I'm not familiar with the situation in the US, but that's the only thing I can think of.
But yeah, it's similar for Europeans with the ETR releases – more extreme actually due to USPS's crazy shipping fees. For a $25-30 record, you'll pay an additional $50 shipping. There are cheaper options (slower and/or not registered, usually around $25), but ETR/Brookvale don't offer these... And of course, if the seller doesn't declare it as a gift or with a lower value on the customs form, you get to pay even more on arrival.
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I assume they just convert from to USD and call it a day. Currency in general is a very illogical thing, and they clearly know there is a fanbase willing to pay for DT. Makes for an automatic swindle, essentially.
That's terrible about the crazy USPS shipping. However, the German shops would have much cheaper shipping as you say because they have the lowest shipping rates in the world. Bit unfair to compare!
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It would be nice if the coloured copies drove down the price of the black pressings. MOV is way too expensive. I doubt it'll happen, but there's a glimmer of hope somewhere!
www.lasercd.com has some of the MOV releases and are based in the US. Might be a bit more expensive but the shipping is typically 3-4 bucks.
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However, the German shops would have much cheaper shipping as you say because they have the lowest shipping rates in the world. Bit unfair to compare!
I'm not comparing to German prices; I'm aware that those are very cheap. But shipping from Canada, Japan, or South Korea is quite a bit cheaper than from the US. I'm generally looking at the cheapest registered options, by the way I want to be sure that the parcel arrives eventually, but I don't care if it takes a bit longer. This might actually be one of the reasons why the US prices are so high: I think USPS forces you to use air mail, whereas Canada Post and other countries' post offices also offer cheaper surface shipping.
Here are some estimates for shipping 3-4 records (1 kg, 35 cm x 35 cm x 2.5 cm) from different countries to Central Europe:
- Canada Post: CAD 19 ($14.50) for surface shipping, CAD 38 ($29) for air mail
- Japan Post: JPY 770 ($7.30) for surface shipping, JPY 1080 ($10) for economy air mail (SAL), JPY 1860 ($17.50) for air mail
- China Post: CNY 47.50 ($7) for surface shipping, CNY 81 ($12) for air mail; not sure how accurate this is since I couldn't find any information on the official website
- Korea Post: KRW 14600 ($13) for surface shipping, KRW 24300 ($21) for air mail
- USPS: $34.50 for "First-Class Package International Service" (probably air mail, but didn't find anything about that on the website)
- Australia Post: AUD 42.47 ($32) for surface shipping (only available for 2 kg up!), AUD 36.95 ($27.70) for air mail
- Correios (Brazil): BRL 96 ($29) for "Leve Internacional" (probably air mail, but not specified on the website)
- Posti Group (Finland): EUR 37 ($41) for "Postal Parcel International"
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For those interested there's a good sale at Insound this weekend including a few DT vinyl releases:
https://www.insound.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=dream+theater&order=relevance&dir=desc (https://www.insound.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=dream+theater&order=relevance&dir=desc)
Sorry for the necro thread. This seemed like a decent place to post.
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For those interested there's a good sale at Insound this weekend including a few DT vinyl releases:
https://www.insound.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=dream+theater&order=relevance&dir=desc (https://www.insound.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=dream+theater&order=relevance&dir=desc)
Sorry for the necro thread. This seemed like a decent place to post.
Already have all these titles but wow what great deals! Anybody who doesn't have these should jump on them.
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Cool, thanks for the find. Just got Octavarium.
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Wow, ridiculously low prices. I also wonder how they can offer such low international shipping fees given USPS's crazy pricing, which usually means that ordering from the US, e.g. the ETR releases, is very expensive. But here, all three records combined are only $58.73 shipped internationally. At the German store where I usually order my records, it'd be 69.97 ($74) without shipping (though shipping is quite cheap if you're in a neighbouring country, and they sometimes offer free shipping as well).
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Daaaamn. Might have to get one of those. I just picked up Awake from Amazon.
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Octavarium is great. I might get Scenes From A Memory one day. I really wanna get more double/gatefold/coloured vinyl.
Mastodon's Blood Mountain is yellow. My one coloured vinyl so far.
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So, doesn't it seem weird that some of the albums are available on colored vinyl and some are not? Does anyone know what that is about?
Also, I am very sad that Images & Words apparently is not available anymore on red vinyl :(
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So, doesn't it seem weird that some of the albums are available on colored vinyl and some are not? Does anyone know what that is about?
Also, I am very sad that Images & Words apparently is not available anymore on red vinyl :(
Nope, this is how it goes. It gets pressed how it gets pressed. C'est la vie.
With that said, Music on Vinyl seem to be recently reissuing the albums they've released in colours, such as the yellow SFAM and white Budokan. So it seems likely the remaining ones (pre-Roadrunner) will also get coloured reissues this year.
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the remaining ones (pre-Roadrunner)
They already reissued IAW to TOT. WDADU will probably never get a reissue, so the only remaining one is Octavarium, and I don't think MOV will reissue that. Note that they also didn't release it on black vinyl in 2013/14. I don't know any details, but perhaps the copyright situation with that album is a bit different due to it being released directly on Atlantic (after the acquisition of Elektra)?
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Will WD&DU never be rereleased because they don't have enough rights on that album or something like that?
The album's production being pretty .. well, bad, I'd actually like a remix or even a rerecording.
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Will WD&DU never be rereleased because they don't have enough rights on that album or something like that?
The album's production being pretty .. well, bad, I'd actually like a remix or even a rerecording.
Yeah, they have no rights to those original recordings, and I doubt very seriously they have any interest in acquiring them.
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the revisit with James for the WDADRU release is the closest well ever get to a rerecording / rerelease sanctioned by the band.
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Does anyone know if they're gonna release a vinyl edition of the Live Scenes From New York? Bc if I recall correctly that's the only album besides WD&DU and the last two live albums that has not been rereleased.
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I don't think there's a vinyl release of Chaos In Motion either, so make that "last three live albums". Otherwise, correct. (Technically, the Roadrunner albums were never rereleased, but they were all originally released on vinyl as opposed to the earlier albums.)
I don't see this happening anytime soon. Music On Vinyl has done two cycles of the entire catalogue by now excluding WDADU and LSFNY. Maybe there are some legal issues with LSFNY as well? No idea. But even if there aren't LSFNY is massive. Over 3 hours of playtime equate to 5 LPs based just on duration per side, i.e. ignoring whether the album could actually be split that way. It surprised me already that they released Score as a 4 LP set, and I doubt they'd release an even larger set. There's nobody else beside MOV releasing old DT recordings on vinyl either Enjoy The Ride stopped years ago for reasons I don't know, and the only other release was Octavarium by Rhino (i.e. the rights owners, I believe).
That said, I'd love to see a vinyl release of LSFNY. And of ACOS!
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This site still has some and at decent prices. I just bought both DT12 and 8VM and shipped free!
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So I bought the Music On Vinyl Live at Budokan release (the 2000 copies limited white vinyl) and this is what happened:
Edit: Links to the pictures as they do not seem to show up:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5mgfhvtgqv5fy9/20170422_144356.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sf9j496kjl0jtcs/20170422_144402.jpg?dl=0
(https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/2/AADG0VPcNchmLXIm_UBtRR4QHAP8g13-j0fQUn5IKMfs4g/12/563740383/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/20170422_144356.jpg/ENSX48IEGAcgAigC/uP-Gl7PtyVxVcdW34PCC7TzWZ-4ZG9P1G3if_-8T7bo?size=800x600&size_mode=1)
(https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/2/AABHLOMBpIV0r-0clfoWuz9CNLOSC_1rqVSR-kYbgK3Wuw/12/563740383/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/20170422_144402.jpg/ENSX48IEGAggAigC/ahdQRx5Ww0tZD1qprWPDbTS5PhQytHDuuV0ocfZ8dWs?size=800x600&size_mode=1)
And this is basically on all eight sides of the release. Sometimes it's more brown than black or a little less smeared, but it's everywhere. Cleaning also won't help since it is inside the vinyl (e.g. side 1 and 2 look the same).
Somebody else got this issue or am I the only one so far (that would actually be pretty funny)?
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this is what happened
FYI, the images don't show up. It looks like you didn't make them publicly accessible (not sure how Dropbox works exactly since I don't use it).
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Thanks for the hint, I posted links to the picture as I don't know a better way of working around it in Dropbox.
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Happens all the time, especially with light colors like white. Either someone didn't fully clean out the stamper or had a brownish color on their hands when handling the puck (likely from another vinyl they had just worked on), since they kinda look like fingerprints. Remember, this stuff is made by actual people molding a puck and squashing it!
You might be able to exchange for another copy, depending on where you bought it.
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I actually bought it on Amazon, however it said that it was the last copy they had left... well, I guess I'll just keep it, at least it makes this copy somewhat unique ;)
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Send Amazon an email anyway and they will give you at least a partial refund. I had a record set come damaged once and they refunded it without taking it back (I didn't even ask for a full refund).
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We recently found a few boxes of Falling Into Infinity while doing inventory and decided to put them on sale. When you put one in your cart, you will automatically receive 30% off. There are only 50 copies left, so we wanted to give forum members a heads up so they can snag a copy if they haven't done so already.
https://enjoytheride.storenvy.com/products/9955279-dream-theater-2xlp-falling-into-infinity-webstore-exclusive-variant
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Just a heads up for anyone interested in some cheap DT vinyl, Insound.com is having a 50% off sale right now. Not sure for how long.
https://www.insound.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=dream+theater&order=relevance&dir=desc
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Music On Vinyl is releasing ACOS in a bit less than a month (2018-02-16). Limited edition of 2500 numbered copies on blue/white mixed vinyl.
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/a-change-of-seasons
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is it me...? I'm not seeing a way to order on the MOV page...
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I don't think you can order directly from MOV. You'll have to look for a distributor which sells them instead.
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is it me...? I'm not seeing a way to order on the MOV page...
Preorder is up on amazon.co.uk (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Change-Seasons-180-Coloured-Vinyl/dp/B078WVL2DN/ref=sr_1_1_twi_lp__1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516804364&sr=8-1&keywords=dream+theater+change+of+seasons) but I'm sure it will show up on your localized Amazon site when we get closer to the release date.
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WDADU will be rereleased by Music On Vinyl in September (2018-09-07). Red vinyl, 3500 numbered copies.
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/when-dream-and-day-unite
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WDADU will be rereleased by Music On Vinyl in September (2018-09-07). Red vinyl, 3500 numbered copies.
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/when-dream-and-day-unite
That's AWESUM!!!
I wonder if they remastered it?
I found the original vinyl in Cologne around 1,5 years ago. It actually doesn't sound that bad! But I think I'll be getting this version too.
But didn't the band have some problems with rereleasing WD&DU because they don't own the rights on that album or so?
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But didn't the band have some problems with rereleasing WD&DU because they don't own the rights on that album or so?
Yeah, I believe ETR said the same thing here on DTF a few years ago. I assume that MOV negotiated directly with Mechanic/MCA/Geffen Records (or whoever owns the rights nowadays).
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But didn't the band have some problems with rereleasing WD&DU because they don't own the rights on that album or so?
Yeah, I believe ETR said the same thing here on DTF a few years ago. I assume that MOV negotiated directly with Mechanic/MCA/Geffen Records (or whoever owns the rights nowadays).
I'm not quite sure why a record label should give a crap about the rights of a 30 year old debut album from a then-amateur band that sold 400 and a half copies at the time (I actually don't know how many it sold but if I recall correctly, the number wasn't that high) and won't sell too many in the future either?
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WDADU will be rereleased by Music On Vinyl in September (2018-09-07). Red vinyl, 3500 numbered copies.
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/when-dream-and-day-unite
That's AWESUM!!!
I wonder if they remastered it?
I found the original vinyl in Cologne around 1,5 years ago. It actually doesn't sound that bad! But I think I'll be getting this version too.
But didn't the band have some problems with rereleasing WD&DU because they don't own the rights on that album or so?
I'd love to know how they got the rights for this and what tapes were used.
Not sure if I'd get this or not. Already have some original pressings and a promo, but I am curious as to how it was made.
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I might get it since I don't own a copy of WDADU yet, and this is probably the closest thing to an "official" release of the album since the original.
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Can anyone out there in Vinyl land tell me if there are any differences between the Vinyl and CD versions of any DT albums (for better or worse)?
I want to pick up Scenes and 6DOIT as well for a new experience to these albums and wondering if the sound is clearer, better, different or there are any differences that can be heard?
Cheers
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Can anyone out there in Vinyl land tell me if there are any differences between the Vinyl and CD versions of any DT albums (for better or worse)?
I want to pick up Scenes and 6DOIT as well for a new experience to these albums and wondering if the sound is clearer, better, different or there are any differences that can be heard?
Cheers
IIRC, only the I&W, SFAM, FII, and Awake vinyls through Enjoy the Ride records were remastered for vinyl. The Music on Vinyl (MOV) releases are just direct transfers but they also have released SFAM, FII, Awake, and Images.
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IIRC, only the I&W, SFAM, FII, and Awake vinyls through Enjoy the Ride records were remastered for vinyl. The Music on Vinyl (MOV) releases are just direct transfers but they also have released SFAM, FII, Awake, and Images.
Not sure. Although it's obviously not a perfect measure, the dynamic range on the SFAM CD (https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/85849) and the MOV release (https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/85489) is quite different. For comparison, here's the ETR pressing (https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/125352).
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Can anyone out there in Vinyl land tell me if there are any differences between the Vinyl and CD versions of any DT albums (for better or worse)?
I want to pick up Scenes and 6DOIT as well for a new experience to these albums and wondering if the sound is clearer, better, different or there are any differences that can be heard?
Cheers
I know that the FII vinyl I have has Hell's Kitchen and Lines in the Sand separated on two different sides. This allows you to hear them as single entities. There's a little bit more sound to both the end of HK and the beginning of LITS that you don't get to hear otherwise. It's not earth-shattering, but it is pretty cool to hear.
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IIRC, only the I&W, SFAM, FII, and Awake vinyls through Enjoy the Ride records were remastered for vinyl. The Music on Vinyl (MOV) releases are just direct transfers but they also have released SFAM, FII, Awake, and Images.
Not sure. Although it's obviously not a perfect measure, the dynamic range on the SFAM CD (https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/85849) and the MOV release (https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/85489) is quite different. For comparison, here's the ETR pressing (https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/125352).
So does this mean the MOV pressing will effectively 'sound' better than the CD version due to having a larger DM and being less compressed (correct me if I am wrong)?
Can anyone confirm which albums are must have's and sound better than their CD counterparts? (i.e less compressed where you can hear more of the material). Cheers
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For the 20th anniversary, MOV is re-releasing SFAM yet again next month, this time as a numbered edition of 5000 on orange/gold mixed vinyl.
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/catalog/dream-theater/metropolis-part-2-scenes-from-a-memory
I'm slightly annoyed that they release it at the same time as the new album instead of in October, exactly 20 years after the original release.
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I wish they would release Live Scenes From New York on a gigantic 5LP vinyl set, since SFAM is still available on vinyl normally on Amazon. Marquee, Budokan and Score have been released too.
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Perhaps someone could help me with some advice. I have lots of old vinyl and a fair amount of newer vinyl. My turntable is a Numark, nothing fancy, but gets the job done and sounds fine with my Haken, ST and Slicks Heard vinyl to make a few. My problem is with the new OR vinyls i got for Christmas. In Absentia and Deadwing that were remastered by SW. They should sound great but in fact they don't sound good at all. Super hot and blown out. Any suggestions on what the problem is? The other newer vinyls still sound fine so I don't think the cartridge suddenly went bad.
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Stupid autocorrect. I meant to say Haken, DT and Spocks Beard
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And PT
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Sorry to bump but I'd like to reiterate that I did not like MOV's pressings at all. They basically took the CDs and slapped them on vinyl with no differences, except when they had to cut out bits of song to fit them on the record. Segues had a tendency to drop out, and I'm pretty sure my I&W was slightly off-center.
IIRC, the Brookvale ones were better.
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Perhaps someone could help me with some advice. I have lots of old vinyl and a fair amount of newer vinyl. My turntable is a Numark, nothing fancy, but gets the job done and sounds fine with my Haken, ST and Slicks Heard vinyl to make a few. My problem is with the new OR vinyls i got for Christmas. In Absentia and Deadwing that were remastered by SW. They should sound great but in fact they don't sound good at all. Super hot and blown out. Any suggestions on what the problem is? The other newer vinyls still sound fine so I don't think the cartridge suddenly went bad.
Maybe a cleaner/better cartridge? I doubt SW would screw up a vinyl remaster. However, the original In Absentia master was superhot and Deadwing was very compressed and they had recording issues as well. So maybe SW just lowered the volumes a bit.
In an Instagram post, he confirmed an In Absentia deluxe version will be released later this year.
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What quality of sound are those DT albums on vinyls?
And which brands of turntables are you using guys?
I think the best benefit of vinyls are when complete chain, complete setup is very good. Turntable, cartridge, phone preamp., speakers.
That's my dream for future, at this moment I own no turntable.
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Any new vinyl re-issues on the horizon? Just getting back into vinyl and have missed all of these re-issues.
Chris
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Any new vinyl re-issues on the horizon? Just getting back into vinyl and have missed all of these re-issues.
Chris
Music on Vinyl released all DT albums up to Train Of Thought over the last few years. Also Budokan, Marquee and Score. Most of them are still available to buy. Only a few colored versions are a little hard to get by now (like for example Six Degrees, which by coincidence is the only DT album I dont own on vinyl yet).