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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: Kotowboy on August 09, 2013, 09:28:23 AM
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Great Scott !
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Back To The Future part 1
Greatest film ever made.
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FACT.
Honorable mentions to other 80's sci - fi classics : Wrath Of Khan, Innerspace & Flight Of The Navigator.
But not explorers. No chance. No way.
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Back to the Future 2 is my favourite movie of all time. That future scene alone makes it for me. I love the whole trilogy though. The third movie has always been my least favourite, but I watched it again recently and loved it more than I remembered, and noticed little details I'd never seen before. There is a lot of detail and care put into those movies, even today I pick out new things.
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It's a shame that other than Roger Rabbit and Forrest Gump - Zemeckis never really reached those highs again.
He should have never gotten into Mo-Cap animation either. Polar Express was just dreadful.
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I agree, but BTTF is more than enough of a legacy, isn't it? :metal Let's stick to that.
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"Everybody everywhere, will say, 'Clint Eastwood is the biggest yellow belly in the West.'"
BEST TRILOGY EVER. :coolio :coolio :coolio
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First and only DVD box set I ever bought was the Back to the Future trilogy. Awesome stuff! :tup
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Best trilogy ever is right.
Sod Lord Of The sodding Rings.
BTTF is a time travel romance - buddy movie action comedy. Not only the best film of the 80's ( I even include Khan in that !!!)
But the best film OF ALL TIME.
I went to see it in the cinema for the 25th anniversary digital remaster and it was like watching it fir the first time again.
Such an affirmation. You know everyone there had seen it a hundred times but were *still* laughing at all the jokes etc and applauding when the film
finished. It was quite emotional :P
I can't think of a film like it in recent memory. If BTTF was made nowadays - it would have starred Seth Rogen and Marty would have gotten off with
Lorraine.
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Best trilogy ever....
until the Avatar sequels are finished :chino:
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no
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Timeless classics.
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BTTF2 was, according to my parents, the first movie I ever watched. I adore the whole trilogy, and I recommend the semi-official BTTF4 of the Telltale Games legacy because it's actually quite well done.
A few years ago I had the privilege of seeing the original BTTF in a movie theater - one of the best cinematic moments of my life! For me, the difference between watching actual film vs a digital copy is like how some people here perceive the difference between lossy and lossless music. :lol
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Pic dump imminent!
I'm so obsessed with BTTF2, that I've been recreating the entire 2015 courthouse square set from the original blueprints. They're technically for the 1955 set, but I've adapted them, and even corrected a lot of mistakes on the original blueprints. :blob:
Eventually it's going to be a VR walkthrough, because I'm a huge nerd.
Here are some comparisons with actual photos.
(https://www.blobvandam.com/link/test122.jpg)
(https://www.blobvandam.com/link/courthouse-front-photo-1.jpg)
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(https://www.blobvandam.com/link/test119_comparison.jpg)
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(https://www.blobvandam.com/link/building_203.jpg)
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Seeing it on the big screen after 25 years was so good I can't even describe it.
It just re-affirmed how much I love that film and that cast and that entire universe.
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Blob that look awesome ! :O
I wish there was something like that online somewhere where you could walk around the inside of the Entire Enterprise D :lol
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I don't know....I always thought Michael J. Fox's performance was a bit shakey in those. :(
I love that trilogy and those movies are ones that you watch no matter what you're doing when you see them on or at what point they are at when you find them on.
"I think he took his wallet..... "
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Michael J. Fox's performance was a bit shakey
Please say that that was unintentional.
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The square in the middle of downtown in the town we live in has a building with a clock on it. Every time we go downtown, invariably I say something about saving the clock tower which prompts a roll of the eyes from the wife.
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My favorite scene in the whole trilogy is when Doc is explaining to Marty about the alternate 1985 with the chalkboard.
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Biggest BTTF fan on DTF reporting!
Saw the first movie at the movies a couple of weeks ago when Cinemark did a limited one time showing thing for some classic movies, was a very cool experience to see it on the big screen. I wish they would do it again in 2015 or something.
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Biggest BTTF fan on DTF reporting!
Ahem, how many Deloreans do you even own?
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Back to the Future 2 is my favourite movie of all time. That future scene alone makes it for me. I love the whole trilogy though. The third movie has always been my least favourite, but I watched it again recently and loved it more than I remembered, and noticed little details I'd never seen before. There is a lot of detail and care put into those movies, even today I pick out new things.
Interesting, I think of BTTF2 as easily being the weakest of the trilogy (and that's what most people I talk to say as well). BTTF and BTTF3 are both classics, but the middle entry is... weird.
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Back to the Future 2 is my favourite movie of all time. That future scene alone makes it for me. I love the whole trilogy though. The third movie has always been my least favourite, but I watched it again recently and loved it more than I remembered, and noticed little details I'd never seen before. There is a lot of detail and care put into those movies, even today I pick out new things.
Interesting, I think of BTTF2 as easily being the weakest of the trilogy (and that's what most people I talk to say as well). BTTF and BTTF3 are both classics, but the middle entry is... weird.
Everybody I've ever met agrees that 3 is easily the weakest. BTTF2 is awesome.
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Fun and funny movies, but over rated. Best of all-time? ::). We already know Blob needs to get out more often, but I guess Kotowboy does too.
I'll go join Jay in the 'not-friends-with-BVD' corner now and feel sad.
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Back to the Future 2 is my favourite movie of all time. That future scene alone makes it for me. I love the whole trilogy though. The third movie has always been my least favourite, but I watched it again recently and loved it more than I remembered, and noticed little details I'd never seen before. There is a lot of detail and care put into those movies, even today I pick out new things.
Interesting, I think of BTTF2 as easily being the weakest of the trilogy (and that's what most people I talk to say as well). BTTF and BTTF3 are both classics, but the middle entry is... weird.
Everybody I've ever met agrees that 3 is easily the weakest. BTTF2 is awesome.
I think Kotowboy needs to open a poll in this thread, then. We need to find out what the weakest film in the trilogy actually is.
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I will if you tell me how.
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I don't think we should be kicking off a thread about BTTF with a negative poll. I'm sure we can get the idea from people's posts.
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There is no weakest here, only least best. And it is hard for me to be objective, as I watch II and III more than I now, but that's only because I probably saw I like 100 times before II and III even came out, so by the time the others came out, I was much more happy to get my fix in with the ones I hadn't watched to death already.
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I consider them as a whole, and when I watch one, I usually watch the rest. The thing is, my enjoyment of each one is elevated by the connections to the rest of the movies, so it's hard to separate them.
But part 2 has always been the one that has captured my imagination the most. It's not something I can really quantify, I just get the most enjoyment out of it.
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I have a lot of love for the first one, no doubt, but I will never understand the love for the trilogy as a whole that a lot of people here apparently have. 2 & 3 are barely watchable for me.
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I really need to get my box set from my buddy, who technically lives with me now... and rewatch!
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Rewatched the 3rd one just yesterday!
Definitely one of the best trilogies ever made.
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Poll now added.
GO VOTE BUTTHEADS !
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Ah, but you wimped out. The question wasn't which is the best, which most people will agree is the original, but which is the least goodest.
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Ah, but you wimped out. The question wasn't which is the best, which most people will agree is the original, but which is the least goodest.
The results will be the same. Whichever gets the least votes is the worst them.
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Ah, but you wimped out. The question wasn't which is the best, which most people will agree is the original, but which is the least goodest.
The results will be the same. Whichever gets the least votes is the worst them.
But that just means the least people think it's the best, it doesn't mean the most people think it's the weakest.
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:sadpanda:
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I feel like I would have liked BTTF2 much better if the entire story of the film stayed in the future. Don't get me wrong, I still like it a lot, but going back to 1955 just seemed like re-treading old ground.
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I like BTTF2 because of the return to 1955. I thought it was very clever the way they worked "behind the scenes" to insure that the future came out correctly. A lot of otherwise mundane scenes were suddenly hilarious because we know now what "really" happened. And the jump to the future was cool. In some ways, BTTF2 is my favorite because it took the concept further.
Ah, but you wimped out. The question wasn't which is the best, which most people will agree is the original, but which is the least goodest.
The results will be the same. Whichever gets the least votes is the worst them.
But that just means the least people think it's the best, it doesn't mean the most people think it's the weakest.
Exactly.
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There's too much " What sucks " on this forum :lol
Why can't we have a poll for " What's good " for a change ? :heart :chill
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Yeah, you're right. Positivity is better. I was just pointing out that someone had called for a poll for least bestest, and that's not quite what your poll polled. I'm a dick like that sometimes.
Anyway, I found this amusing. Three BTTF characters aged 30 years via makeup, compared to how they actually look 30 years later:
(https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1098259_10151537656421174_1213241691_n.jpg)
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wow, nice!
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I was gonna post that earlier but was on my iPhone and it was a massive faff.
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The funny thing is that Crispin Glover played Marty's dad when in reality - Michael J Fox was older.
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I think I read that somewhere. Of course, Michael J Fox has always had a "young look" to him.
Obviously Crispin was cast because of his resemblence to MJF, but even in the recent picture, it's striking how much he looks like him.
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The worst aspect about II is Jennifer. First they can't get the original hot actress but put a bad stand-in in her place, and then they just park her character in the literal dumpster. At least in III they completely wrote her out (except the epilogue).
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They wrote themselves into that corner. When they wrote the original ending of BTTF, they didn't really have plans in mind, and then when they started writing BTTF2, they had no idea what to do with the fact that Doc brings her along with Marty to the future.
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I was thinking, and I should've considered this when writing my list, but really, Back To The Future should be considered one big movie, just divided up in three parts (like Lord of The Rings), because unlike most franchises where some time may pass in between movies, the action in Back To The Future is continuous. The next movie takes place right where the previous one left off
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Yes and is a proper Trilogy - unlike some films which just have two sequels.
And then a 4th film.
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Yeah, I hate those 4-part triologies.
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But that would never happen.
(https://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/34478/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull_34478.jpg)
Anyway, I think we've discussed it before, but I never found the original Jennifer to be that hot. Upon re-watching the trilogy recently, I've changed my mind. She's not bad. But I've always liked Elisabeth Shue, so I had no problem with the substitution, especially since Claudia Wells wasn't available anyway.
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Elisabeth Shue FTW!
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I don't care what she looks like in other movies. She looks like shit in the BTTF movies.
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The worst aspect about II is Jennifer. First they can't get the original hot actress but put a bad stand-in in her place, and then they just park her character in the literal dumpster. At least in III they completely wrote her out (except the epilogue).
Yup. In part 1, she was smoking hot, and she wasn't hammy with her acting. Elisabeth Shue has aged better than Claudia Wells though.
Lea Thompson and Michael J Fox have aged really well. I think Mary Steenburgen looks better than she did back in the day, due to not looking very good back in the day, and the surgery.
I like BTTF2 because of the return to 1955. I thought it was very clever the way they worked "behind the scenes" to insure that the future came out correctly. A lot of otherwise mundane scenes were suddenly hilarious because we know now what "really" happened. And the jump to the future was cool. In some ways, BTTF2 is my favorite because it took the concept further.
That's part of why I love it. I also love all of the recurring scenes and themes throughout the generations. A lot of them are pretty obvious, but there are a lot of more subtle ones too.
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In this day and age, it's hard to like 3 movies from a trilogy. This is one that I really liked all of them. Die Hard was one as well until they released the 4th which I liked too. Haven't seen the 5th yet.
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Don't bother with Die Hard 5. It's such a massive drop off in quality even from the 4th one - which I thought was pretty good - .
It's just all unbelievable action and McClain never gets as hurt as he ought to form the things that he does.
And a big CGI finale which would have looked awesome if they'd done it in-camera.
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It's a shame that other than Roger Rabbit and Forrest Gump - Zemeckis never really reached those highs again.
He should have never gotten into Mo-Cap animation either. Polar Express was just dreadful.
I apologize if someone already brought this up.... But Zemeckis reached another high with The Frighteners! (also starring Michael J Fox). One of my favorite movies, for sure.
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The Frighteners was Peter Jackson. Great movie. I just watched it on Blu-ray recently.
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The Frighteners was Peter Jackson. Great movie. I just watched it on Blu-ray recently.
Yeah I always think that was Zemeckis too.
I have yet to see Flight.
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The first BTTF is legitimately one of the greatest movies ever made. The sequels are good, but not up to the same level.
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Just wanted to post this.
(https://i.imgur.com/pfpvxMF.gif)
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Childhood ruined.
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:omg:
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:omg: You mean hoverboards aren't real?
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They have 18 months to MAKE. THEM. REAL.
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I have no idea what the context of this picture was, but it's relevant here.
(https://i.imgur.com/F8Db9od.jpg)
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:'( :'(
https://gawker.com/5668716/back-to-the-futures-michael-j-fox-and-christopher-lloyd-reunite-at-scream-awards
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New ad, BTTF related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QN79EvD_V8
(and I believe that is the recently restored screen-used Delorean, about as perfect as you can get)
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OK, random thought here: Did Doc and Biff ever interact?
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You know, I don't think they ever did. Doc Brown pretty much talked only with Marty. He spoke a few words to Jennifer, but I don't think he ever talked to Biff, or George and Lorraine for that matter.
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Just for fun - Let's make a worst case scenario for casting :
Marty - Justin Bieber
Doc - Rob Schneider
Biff - Jake Busey
George - Matt Broderick
Lorraine - Ellen DeGeneres.
They'd obviously Tron Legacy George & Lorraine's faces to make them young for the 1955 section - which will now be 1985 and present day will be 2015 in an *hilarious* post modern ironic twist.
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If they were to ever (God forbid) make a remake, I think Jake Busey is actually a great choice for Biff. Well, except for the fact that he's a little old for the role now. Did you see him on Psych? He could have played his dad's role in Lethal Weapon.
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There is a remake in the works in the form of a musical. I shit ye not.
I heard the director (I assume the chap talking is going to direct it) talking about it on front row on Radio 4 yesterday.
They want it to have an original slant as well and not just be a remake of the original as a musical.
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OK, random thought here: Did Doc and Biff ever interact?
Sort of. In II, Doc was the one who, in the alternate 1985, opened the car door and clocked Biff when he was about to shoot Marty on the roof.
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OK, random thought here: Did Doc and Biff ever interact?
Sort of. In II, Doc was the one who, in the alternate 1985, opened the car door and clocked Biff when he was about to shoot Marty on the roof.
They were also near each other a bunch of times. When Doc threw out the almanac, Biff was standing in the doorway. Biff also saw Doc fly away in the Delorean in 1985. He was able to warn himself about doc when he went back to 1955. Then again in 1955, (The first time) Doc saw Biff kicking George in the ass in the hallway. Weird, I never thought of it, but Biff had actually seen doc in his three main roles (55,85,and 15 Biff) without Doc changing a bit in age. I also assume that 2015 Biff had a run in with Doc Brown that we didn't see and resulted in Doc being committed.
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Good point. Future Biff was a pretty powerful guy, well connected, and definitely could have been the one that had Doc Brown put away.
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They were also near each other a bunch of times. When Doc threw out the almanac, Biff was standing in the doorway. Biff also saw Doc fly away in the Delorean in 1985. He was able to warn himself about doc when he went back to 1955. Then again in 1955, (The first time) Doc saw Biff kicking George in the ass in the hallway. Weird, I never thought of it, but Biff had actually seen doc in his three main roles (55,85,and 15 Biff) without Doc changing a bit in age. I also assume that 2015 Biff had a run in with Doc Brown that we didn't see and resulted in Doc being committed.
Isn't that Alt. 1985 Biff? Pretty sure that when he says "And this has happened to me!" they are in alt. 1985.
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Yes, that is correct, although we don't know for sure if rich Biff was the reason Doc was committed. But that happened in alternate 1985, not 2015.
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My bad.
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True.
He may have had a guess after 2015 Biff told him about a kid or a crazy man who claims to be a scientist, but it is never explicitly stated.
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OK, random thought here: Did Doc and Biff ever interact?
Sort of. In II, Doc was the one who, in the alternate 1985, opened the car door and clocked Biff when he was about to shoot Marty on the roof.
They were also near each other a bunch of times. When Doc threw out the almanac, Biff was standing in the doorway. Biff also saw Doc fly away in the Delorean in 1985. He was able to warn himself about doc when he went back to 1955. Then again in 1955, (The first time) Doc saw Biff kicking George in the ass in the hallway.
But yeah, so while they were in scenes together, they never exchanged a word, right? I mean, Lorraine I understand since she is much more marginal than Biff, but Biff is really all over the place. He did talk to Buford Tannen though!
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It's one of those things you don't really think about unless it's pointed out to you.
In another one of my favorite movies, The Fifth Element, the main "good guy" is Bruce Willis and the main "bad guy" is Gary Oldman, and Willis actually works for Oldman at the start of the movie (but gets fired), yet they never actually meet, never even share a scene. The closest they come is when Willis steps into an elevator a second before Oldman steps out of the one right next to it on the same floor.
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Kirk and Khan also never meet in TWoK.
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How about the fact that Chigurh and Moss never actually saw each other in No Country for Old Men. They did talk on the phone once, but they never saw each other, even during the chase near the hotel when both were wounded by the other.
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Kirk and Khan also never meet in TWoK.
Not face to face, but they did talk to each other numerous times over the viewscreens, and of course they had several face-to-face chats in the original episode.
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No posts in over a year??
Buttheads.
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I really hate how every so often someone will photoshop the wrong date on the time circuit readout and say
TODAY IS LE DAY THAT LE MARTY WENT TO LE FUTURE !!!!
ITS OCTOBER 21ST 2015.
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Yeah, that really grinds my gears
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Interesting. Apparently, the DeLorean physically wasn't able to hit 88 mph in that parking lot.
Doc Brown: If my calculations are correct... you'd be dead! (https://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/doc-brown-if-my-calculations-are-correct-youd-be-dead-1704242406)
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Interesting. Apparently, the DeLorean physically wasn't able to hit 88 mph in that parking lot.
Doc Brown: If my calculations are correct... you'd be dead! (https://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/doc-brown-if-my-calculations-are-correct-youd-be-dead-1704242406)
Doc could blow the top off a steam engine by throwing in some colored towels. I'm sure he could have figured out a way to squeeze a few more horsepower out of DeLorean.
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I wouldn't blame Doc. I would blame the film's producers.
No big deal either way, just thought it was interesting.
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At the end of part 1, Marty says they don't have enough road to hit 88mph, so I once worked out whether they did have enough road to hit 88mph on his street. If I recall, they did have enough road, but barely. There may have also been a dicey intersection in the way.
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Interesting. Apparently, the DeLorean physically wasn't able to hit 88 mph in that parking lot.
Doc Brown: If my calculations are correct... you'd be dead! (https://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/doc-brown-if-my-calculations-are-correct-youd-be-dead-1704242406)
Doc could blow the top off a steam engine by throwing in some colored towels. I'm sure he could have figured out a way to squeeze a few more horsepower out of DeLorean.
Guy invents a time machine and people think the DeLorean was going to be a stock model? :rollin
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REMINDER.
The date they got forward to in Part 2 is
OCTOBER 21ST 2015.
ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTE.
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I wish some theaters would do a BTTF trilogy limited screening on that date, would be pretty awesome.
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I wish some theaters would do a BTTF trilogy limited screening on that date, would be pretty awesome.
I saw the first movie in 2010 remastered. Was fantastic. Such a great experience. Everyone was cheering and laughing at the jokes like old friends and we all stood up and
applauded at the end credits. SO good.
The only one i've not seen in the cinema is part II since I saw the third film when it was released :)
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How old are you? if you don't mind me asking, I was always under the assumption you're somewhere between 15 and 18 but if you saw the third movie in the theater then I'm dead wrong heh
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If you said 18 you'd be half right. :D
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I used to love 2 more than 1, but honestly the original is great, I saw 2 and 3 on the big screen.
I wish someone would re screen it in Australia, I already plan to book a Gold class with Shawshank for my 40th, double feature may be too much for some. ::)
There are not too many movies I can re watch and love, but this (especially 1 & 2) is one I can.
Has everyone seen the quick scene is A Million Ways to Die in the West with Doc and the DeLorean? That was great and so unexpected. :smiley:
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I haven't seen that scene but from what I've heard about it - it's just another MacFarlane reference instead of a joke.
As in - oh look we're in the old west and here's Doc Brown......and that's the..."joke" ?
EDIT : Yeah I just watched it on Youtube and that's pretty much it.
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It was a cool homage and not meant as a joke, I liked it a lot!
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Except for the first one, I've seen 2 and 3 in the theaters.
Anyway, after 30 years I've always wondered, how come Doc's favorite writer wasn't H.G. Wells? He's the one who wrote about time travel after all.
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Except for the first one, I've seen 2 and 3 in the theaters.
Anyway, after 30 years I've always wondered, how come Doc's favorite writer wasn't H.G. Wells? He's the one who wrote about time travel after all.
Maybe it was simply because the years wouldn't have worked for that scene of the movie where he's discussing it with Clara. Otherwise there wouldn't have been much point to mentioning it at all. His favourite writer doesn't necessarily have to be the one who wrote about time travel.
And then his kids would have had even weirder names. :lol
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Let's imagine how horrific a Back To The Future remake would be !
The Time Machine : A Mercedes Kompressor with those stupid alloys that spin around.
Justin Bieber as Marty McFly trying to regain some cred with "Teh Kidz".
Rob Schneider as Doc Brown
Jake Busey as Biff / Griff ( You know they'd shoehorn in Griff in the 1st film somehow )
And to be all ironic n shit - Marty wouldn't go back to 1955 - it would be 1985 and he'd be all like : " What, no cellphones ?! "
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Marty's grandchildren travel from 2045 to 2015 and hook up with their grandmother on Tinder.
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Bumped for Back to the Future Day tomorrow, 10/21/15
Is anybody flying over to see BTTF Pt. II tomorrow at their local theater? Anybody wearing their pants inside out to work tomorrow? I'm thinking about it.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRyR1csWEAA7vIG.jpg:large)
Never mind what the toothbrush is for :angry:
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I still wanna know what was supposed to happen on Doc's 1955 Hill Valley model with the electric and the model car :lol
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This facial expression always got me :lol
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47738/1631280-doc_brown_full.jpg)
Classic
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So when did Rock and Roll properly kick off ?
Did they not have the 12 bar blues in 1955 ?
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p.s. I'd love someone to do a split screen of the endings from part 1 & Part 2 to see how similar they are.
I just checked and the contents of the bin are identical. Maybe they re-used that shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htyYy9ML5rk
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Bumped for Back to the Future Day tomorrow, 10/21/15
Is anybody flying over to see BTTF Pt. II tomorrow at their local theater? Anybody wearing their pants inside out to work tomorrow? I'm thinking about it.
They're only showing the first movie at the theater here, for some strange reason. Maybe I'll just play Wild Gunman instead (which is actually nothing like the BTTF2 version btw).
I still wanna know what was supposed to happen on Doc's 1955 Hill Valley model with the electric and the model car :lol
I've always wondered the same thing, and found it so hilariously absurd. :lol
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Someone pointed out somewhere that if you do go back in time - then The Earth might not be at that point in orbit and you'd just be floating in space...
That's an angle I never really considered before.
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Well that's weird.
I was watching BTTF 1 last night and wondered for the first time why - at the dinner table in the beginning - Marty is on one side of the table and the others are on the other.
I'm reading an article today and it's deliberate because Michael was so busy on his TV show - that in the shots where it's any other actor in close up - Michael isn't on set.
Haha. Now i've just read that Crispin Glover was a pain in the arse to work with. That does not surprise me. He thought he was the lead character in the movie and insisted on being paid more...
He would resist notes from the Director and wanted to do things that were contrary to his character and continuity.
.. then he had a massive hissy fit when they recast him for the sequels and used footage of him from the first movie.
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Someone pointed out somewhere that if you do go back in time - then The Earth might not be at that point in orbit and you'd just be floating in space...
That's an angle I never really considered before.
I always assume it's either-
A) gravity keeping the time machine in place as it goes through time.
B) the time circuits calculate the corresponding location in space.
I hadn't noticed MJF not being in the same shot, although I was aware of the scheduling issues with Family Ties.
I believe Crispin Glover is the whole reason there are now laws about using an actor's license without permission. Apparently he objected to the ending of the first movie, because he felt like Marty was getting monetary reward from changing the past, rather than getting his parents back together being payoff enough for the movie.
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He is in the same shot in the Master I think but I did wonder why he's so obviously separated from the rest of them .
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I believe Crispin Glover is the whole reason there are now laws about using an actor's license without permission. Apparently he objected to the ending of the first movie, because he felt like Marty was getting monetary reward from changing the past, rather than getting his parents back together being payoff enough for the movie.
He mentions Marlon Brando as an influence and now it's obvious he just means " a jerk and difficult to work with " :lol
Yeah the denouement to the first movie has all sorts of problems but it's a great pay off so it doesn't matter.
Would George & Lorraine have the exact sam kids at the exact same time and live in the same house etc etc... Marty would have a lifetime of new memories and
may not even be in the same school with the same friends etc etc. .
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But yeah - I watched the first one again and was still laughing my butt off :)
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Would George & Lorraine have the exact sam kids at the exact same time and live in the same house etc etc... Marty would have a lifetime of new memories and may not even be in the same school with the same friends etc etc. .
Even a difference of a second could mean the difference between having a different kid, and having a completely different life as they now do would definitely change when they're having kids.
I haven't seen many things that actually address that. The main one that comes to mind at the moment is some crummy time travel related movie with Rachel McAdams.
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It doesn't matter because it's a perfect ending.
I just watched the dinner scene again just now and you only see all of them in the master shot so either they got that done while they could or they split-screened in Michael later.
- which may have given them the idea for the same scene in the future part of BTTF2
EDIT : Here's a Spielberg quote that Blob won't agree with :biggrin:
" Part 2 is a little dip in the trilogy - like Temple Of Doom "
I agre with the Temple of Doom bit for sure :p
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BTTF2 is probably my favorite of the trilogy. You get normal 1985, the future, alt-1985 and then the different take on 1955. The first one is a classic obviously, but I always liked how BTTF2 gave us a different perspective on the 1955-storyline, as well as all the great stuff in the first hour. Hoverboard and the flying DeLorean for example. The third movie is genuinely great as well, I'd say it's one of the few trilogies where all three movies hold up. (A few others being Star Wars and LOTR)
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It is one of the best Trilogies for sure. if not *the* best.
And a 4th one would just be shitty and spoil the legacy.
And we *sort of* have the studio to *thank* for it ?
They wanted to make a second one and basically said " We're making another one - you can do it or we'll find someone else "...
The 2nd one would be very different if Zemeckis and Co. decided not to do it themselves. . .
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EDIT : Here's a Spielberg quote that Blob won't agree with :biggrin:
" Part 2 is a little dip in the trilogy - like Temple Of Doom "
Spielberg can suck my dick. BTTF2 is a classic. Temple of Doom was hard to watch.
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It is cool how it's basically the same film again. I imagine the logistics of it were a nightmare.
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All 3 films being shown at my dinky town's theater today.
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All 3 films being shown at my dinky town's theater today.
I did suggest it to my local cinema and they loved the idea but they do have A LOT of things on there so probably had no free slots.
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The reason for Chris Lloyd having a "facelift" in Part 2 is so that he didn't have to have the prosthetics put on every day.
I still can't notice much difference to this day :lol
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The reason for Chris Lloyd having a "facelift" in Part 2 is so that he didn't have to have the prosthetics put on every day.
I still can't notice much difference to this day :lol
There were prosthetics? :lol I just took it as a joke lamp-shading the fact he didn't visibly age between 1955 and 1985. He was apparently around 35 in 1955, which makes him about 65 in 1985, but it was all the same.
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(https://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/%5Bcurrent-date%3Acustom%3AY%5D/%5Bcurrent-date%3Acustom%3Am%5D/%5Bcurrent-date%3Acustom%3Ad%5D/usa-today_back-to-the-future.jpg)
USA Today recreates Back to the Future Part II front page (https://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/20/back-future-part-2-front-page-usa-today)
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I notice they removed the references to Queen Diana for obvious reason, changed/added some side headlines, and changed/added a lot of other things, since it wasn't originally meant to be actually read. I'd love to get my hands on one of these, even if it isn't screen accurate size.
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I never really paid attention but did they make MJF look any different when he was playing Marty Jr ?
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p.s. I LOVE that so many people are jumping on board ( no pun intended ) this BTTF 2 day thing :) makes me happy.
:lol Any of those " TODAY IS TEH DAY HE GOES TO TEH FUTURE!!! " photoshops after today will hopefully get laughed out of town....
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I never really paid attention but did they make MJF look any different when he was playing Marty Jr ?
He had more of a high pitched voice and they altered his hair slightly
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I never really paid attention but did they make MJF look any different when he was playing Marty Jr ?
They gave him brown contacts, and some false teeth.
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Yeah I just checked. Brown contacts for sure.
P.s. I always thought that when he asks for a "tab" in 1955 and a "pepsi free" . I always assumed until last night!!!!! He was asking for a tab and a Free pepsi... :lol
I was watching on my tv with subtitles on whilst browsing the internet and Pepsi Free and Tab were in capitals so it finally made sense :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Chris Lloyd said he would do another movie. I'm sure he plays Doc Brown at the drop of a hat :lol
I'm *hoping* it's because he loved the character and not JUST because he gets paid :lol
Decide from this clip : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-fKXzZrMzQ
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I feel like the original trilogy is so magical that if they were to make a new BTTF movie, I'd prefer it to be a reboot with possible guest appearances by Lloyd/Fox, maybe showing up as cameos. I love them in the BTTF movies, but the trilogy just works so well and ends on a nice note. I feel like seeing an almost 80 year old Doc Brown or seeing Marty in his 50s doing the whole "Thats heavy Doc" might do more harm than good.
There's definitely more interesting time eras you could explore in a BTTF movie, but what I always liked was that the time travels were connected to the characters somehow, and that relatives of them appeared, like Marty meeting his young parents, or us seeing him older in the future. I believe Zemeckis has said that BTTF stays untouched as long as he is alive and breathing, but if he eventually dies and can't fight that battle anymore, the studio will definitely try to push it.
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Zemeckis also said he wants to figure out how to pass on the rights to his family so it'll never revert to
the studio. Also both he & Bob Gale have to pass on before the studio gets it.
I hope they both live to be 100 :D
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I think BTTF is similar to Jurassic Park in the sense that you could reboot it in 2015 (like Jurassic World) and still capture that fun light essence of the original movies, but it's really all depending on WHO makes it. There's a lot of cynical cash grabs where you can tell nobody cared and the movie is just made for financial gains, and you throw some references in there, but there's also the few times when you notice they did care, and the result is a fun movie.
It definitely doesn't NEED a remake, but I think in maybe 10 years we'll have one any way. I'm almost chocked it hasn't happened yet to be honest.
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..... Because Zemeckis says no.
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..... Because Zemeckis says no.
If it weren't for this, there's no doubt they'd have taken the opportunity to remake it.
Thank god they currently can't. I don't want to see it in my lifetime.
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Nor me. Zemeckis is currently 63 years old.
If he lives to be 96 - i'll be 70 when the rights to the franchise revert to Universal. By then I probably won't care :lol
However - I *would* like to see it just to see how badly they fuck it up. The originals will always exist. There's enough copies of the Trilogy untouched too that if Universal decided
to go back and Lucas the fuck out of them - it wouldn't matter.
Same with Jaws. I'd love to see a remake purely for the schadenfreude of seeing how shit it is.
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If it weren't for this, there's no doubt they'd have taken the opportunity to remake it.
I can't imagine the amount of money they would throw at him to get him to change his mind. Thankfully he's very protective of the movies hence the reason he did the sequels to begin with.
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If BTTF were to be revisited, I'd like to see it set hundreds of years in the future and somehow tie it back to doc. Getting centuries away from the original timeline should prevent the writers from trying to force too many references to the first films.
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Anyone else here play the BTTF Telltale game? It used a lot of ideas that were thrown around for making a 4th movie, and it's really well written.
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Unsurprisingly I had a dream that Chris Lloyd and MJ Fox were in a film together that was directed by Bob Zemeckis and it was nothing to do with BTTF :)
That would be better than a 4th BTTF. A brand new movie with the same cast & crew...
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Anyone else here play the BTTF Telltale game? It used a lot of ideas that were thrown around for making a 4th movie, and it's really well written.
Was that the one with five episodes? I played the first episode (the free one). While the story was kind of cool, the gameplay was really lack luster.
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ĦĦĦĦĦĦĦ THEORIES AND SPECULATION !!!!!!!
1. How did 2015 Biff return to "Prime" 2015 when he should have returned to "Alternate" 2015 ?
2. How did he die ? I always assumed he winded himself when he got out of the car and merely collapsed from that. Did he definitely die ?
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Michael J. Fox Models the First Self-Lacing Nike MAG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcvbHJ1BZ9s)
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Anyone else here play the BTTF Telltale game? It used a lot of ideas that were thrown around for making a 4th movie, and it's really well written.
Was that the one with five episodes? I played the first episode (the free one). While the story was kind of cool, the gameplay was really lack luster.
Yeah, that's the one. Yes, the gameplay is really lackluster, but that's the style of all their games. It's basically a slightly interactive movie.
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ĦĦĦĦĦĦĦ THEORIES AND SPECULATION !!!!!!!
1. How did 2015 Biff return to "Prime" 2015 when he should have returned to "Alternate" 2015 ?
2. How did he die ? I always assumed he winded himself when he got out of the car and merely collapsed from that. Did he definitely die ?
He returned to his 2015 because the future hadn't changed yet. It takes time for the changes to propagate through time, as it did in part 1 when Marty started disappearing.
He died from disappearing from the timeline. The extended deleted scene makes that much clearer, where you see him fade away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124-bZmfbPQ
Marty didn't experience the same pain, not sure if that's because he had only partially faded, or because he hadn't tried travelling back to the future where he would no longer exist yet.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR8BFpHWEAAp2Y9.jpg:large)
😭😭😭😭😭
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This makes me sad. :'(
I've watched one a day for three days and I don't want a NEW sequel but i'd love it if there was a 4th one made in like 1993 or something.
You can kinda tell that Zemeckis made Roger Rabbit and Part 2 very close together. There's a stylistic similarity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=244&v=Q0VGRlEJewA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=244&v=Q0VGRlEJewA)
This was really fun.
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Saw BTTF II at the theater yesterday, it was glorious! Saw a lot of people dressed up as Marty and a lot of cool BTTF t-shirts, I have never been around that many avid BTTF fans like myself :D
Crossed my mind that if old Biff had just directly told 1955 Biff that Marty and the Doc. are the "scientist and kid" in question; rich alternative Biff would have been able to get rid of them earlier on before 1985. Glad old Biff was dumb hehe
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How come in BTTF's 2015 the world series was already over by 10/21? I know a season's length had something like 8 games added to it in 1961. Did it happen again after BTTF2 came out?
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So where do we think Doc was going at the end of 3?
I'm thinking either back to 1885 or the centre of the earth as hinted by their shared love of Jules Verne
and the names of their kids.
I think the "already been there" refers solely to the future. And he always wanted to live in 1885 so simply returned.
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How come in BTTF's 2015 the world series was already over by 10/21? I know a season's length had something like 8 games added to it in 1961. Did it happen again after BTTF2 came out?
I don't follow baseball closely, but I think the playoffs were expanded a few years ago, so they do last longer now than they used to, even recently.
At one time, only the division winners made the playoffs, but now wild card teams make it too.
I think.
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That's correct. There used to be only East and West divisions in each league, and they played best-of-5 to advance to the World Series. Since then, they've added a Central division to each league and wildcards, meaning an extra round of playoffs, plus all playoff series are best-of-7. This added a few weeks, give or take, depending on how long each series took.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=244&v=Q0VGRlEJewA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=244&v=Q0VGRlEJewA)
This was really fun.
I just came to post this. :tup
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Definitely the best Trilogy of all time.
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I wouldn't say that. At all. They're all fun and good movies, but I think only the first comes close to being great. Through nostalgia goggles they might be the best, but without them, they're "just" three fine movies.
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Definitely the best Trilogy of all time.
I disagree
with anyone who doesn't realize this.
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Lord of the Rings and Star Wars can fuck off frankly.
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Definitely the best Trilogy of all time.
I disagree
with anyone who doesn't realize this.
That's only because we haven't seen the Avatar trilogy yet.
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lol
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I think you could make valid arguments for all three of BTTF, LOTR and Star Wars, but if you're even gonna bring up Avatar, we might as well include The Expendables or the prequel trilogy.
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That's only because we haven't seen the Avatar trilogy yet.
lol
As much as I love the first movie - NO.
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Lord of the Rings and Star Wars can fuck off frankly.
That's just crazy talk.
No way does BTTF compare with either of those. Hell, the Godfather trilogy, even with Part III being what it is, is light years ahead of BTTF.
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BTTF absolutely compares with those.
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Don't you mean Lord of the Borings?
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Don't you mean Avatard?
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I think the better series to compare with BTTF is the Matrix. One amazing first film, and two other films.
The BTTF sequels may be less convoluted and contradictory than the Matrix sequels.
But hey, opinions.
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No.
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here.
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Comparing BTTF to The Matrix at all is sacrilege. The Matrix sequels were garbage, especially the third movie.
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Comparing BTTF to The Matrix at all is sacrilege. The Matrix sequels were garbage, especially the third movie.
Despite the flaws, the BTTF sequels are at least fun and go by quickly. I feel like The Matrix sequels are a chore to get through (though the first movie is awesome).
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Comparing BTTF to The Matrix at all is sacrilege. The Matrix sequels were garbage, especially the third movie.
Well, I'm certainly not defending the Matrix trilogy.
I was just talking dropoff from the first to the other two.
The Star Wars and LOTR films are very consistent in quality across the trilogy.
That's all I'm saying.
Of course, if you think the BTTF sequels are as good as (or better than) the first, you will obviously have a difference of opinion.
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Yeah the Matrix sequels are nowhere near as good as the BTTF sequels. I will slightly defend Reloaded because it has a few great sequences, but it's worse than BTTF2, and BTTF3 spanks Revolutions so hard there's no question about it.
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Everyone says Matrix 3 is the worst one but i recently watched 2 and 3 in one go and 3 is just so much better than 2.
Reloaded adds almost nothing of consequence to the overall plot and has loads of new characters that are not necessary.
Take a few scenes from Reloaded - edit Revolutions down and throw in a few of the extra scenes you filmed for the video game and you have a decent sequel.
But the first one ended so perfectly that no sequel was needed. Neo is the one. He defeated Smith. He tells the machines their days are numbered. He shows humanity the truth by flying in broad
daylight.
END. Perfect.
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Don't you mean Lord of the Borings?
:clap: :rollin
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Comparing BTTF to The Matrix at all is sacrilege. The Matrix sequels were garbage, especially the second movie.
I agree that the sequels were mostly tripe. Matrix 1 isn't even as good as The Original BTTF.
BTTF 2 & 3 were almost as good the the original.
Some people even think that BTTF 2 is the best one - and nobody thinks Matrix 2 is the best one.
..except Nostalgia Critic - but he's a f---ing moron.
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I like The Matrix more than BTTF2 (my favorite of the BTTF franchise), but I think if you put the trilogies next to each other, BTTF is the clear winner.
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I like The Matrix more than BTTF2 (my favorite of the BTTF franchise), but I think if you put the trilogies next to each other, BTTF is the clear winner.
Yes indeed.
I hate The Nostalgia Critic already. Half In the Bag for the win. But when he said Matrix 2 is the best one that was it for me. :lol
I can understand people saying BTTF 2 or 3 is the best one but I cannot understand anyone thinking Matrix 2 is the best one.
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Also Robert Zemeckis has a much better track record than The Wachowskis.
Back To The Future trilogy
Romancing The Stone
Roger Rabbit
Cast Away
Forrest Gump
Contact
Flight
I'm thinking about going to see " The Walk " later as well.
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Reloaded has a few sequences that are really great, like Neo fighting all the Smiths, the highway scene (one of the best of the trilogy) and I like it when he's fighting all those guys at the palace place. But for every great sequence there's also some really lame stuff, like the Neo/Trinity sex scene during the wtf-Rave party at Zion. I think Reloaded introduced some interesting ideas, like the keymaker and the endless hallway of doors, but AS a movie it's not the best. Let's not forget the architect scene, one of the worst scenes in history in terms of just explaining the exposition dialogue to the audience directly.
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Reloaded has a few sequences that are really great, like Neo fighting all the Smiths, the highway scene (one of the best of the trilogy) and I like it when he's fighting all those guys at the palace place. But for every great sequence there's also some really lame stuff, like the Neo/Trinity sex scene during the wtf-Rave party at Zion. I think Reloaded introduced some interesting ideas, like the keymaker and the endless hallway of doors, but AS a movie it's not the best. Let's not forget the architect scene, one of the worst scenes in history in terms of just explaining the exposition dialogue to the audience directly.
Yeah the architect scene was like WTF? To me that was The Wachowskis just stroking their own ego and showing everyone how clever they were and how much they read philosophy.
" Apes don't read philosophy "
" Yes they do Otto. They just don't understand it. "
Plus the Matrix sequels only add fire to the rumour that they pretty much stole the idea for the first one then had to write the sequels on their own.
Really good directors though. Not very good at scripts.
EDIT
The Architect scene should have been
Hello Neo I am the Architect the creator of the Matrix. What they haven't told you is that you are the 7th person to meet me here. The Matrix was designed just to control the 1% of people
who cannot accept the reality of the Matrix. Your purpose all along was to get to this point - and sacrifice yourself to save x amount of people in Zion for this all to start over again.
However - if you choose to exit through the other door - everyone dies. Your decision.
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I feel like what's so great about the BTTF movies is that they feel cohesive like a trilogy. With The Matrix it definitely felt like the first one stood on its own and the rest was just milking it, and going off the rails. I guess you could sorta make that case with BTTF (first being on its own, 2 and 3 being connected more), but I think they added just enough things to make it flow nicely. Like how BTTF already ended with them flying away in the car, which obviously is the start of nr 2. I also love some of the foreshadowing in BTTF2, when Marty goes to Biff's casino in alt-1985, he sees footage of Mad Dog Tannen (from BTTF3), which was a really nice hint in retrospect considering we didn't know during BTTF2 that they would go to the western in nr 3.
I think you could look at the story arc over BTTF, BTTF2 and BTTF3 and it feels like one long journey. With The Matrix I feel like the original just feels so different from the other two. The first was so great because of tension and the fact that the agents were actually a serious threat, and if you fought them, you would most likely die. In the sequels they became a joke and Neo could basically fight a thousand of them by himself. They just had such a different feel to them, whereas BTTF has the same light-hearted feeling and spirit throughout.
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I just love how Back To The Future 2 and 3 are basically the same structure as the first one just in a different time period.
Marty arrives in a time - gets in trouble with a Tannen - has a chase and / or a fight. Has to sort out a problem.
It's almost as if 2 & 3 are remakes of the first one in a different setting. 2 virtually is.
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I'd seriously rank all the Matrix movies above all the BttF movies.
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I'd seriously rank all the Matrix movies above all the BttF movies.
Butthead.
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Oh, and I think the BttF trilogy ends badly. I mean, the very end, the final scene. Pretty much everything in the trilogy is fun and good enough, but that train Doc shows up with is the only thing in these movies I'd say is plain 'bad'. Even with the level of fun sillyness in those movies, I still call that jumping the shark. They could have ended it with some actual sense of consequence, with Doc actually being stuck back in 1885. Marty could have looked him up, reading about how he married Clara and lived happily or something and that would have been good. Great even. But in my opinion they ruined it with that train.
I can buy that he builds a time traveling delorean, no problem, but no, Doc did not build a time traveling train in the 1800s.
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You're wrong it was the perfect ending.
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I just love how Back To The Future 2 and 3 are basically the same structure as the first one just in a different time period.
Marty arrives in a time - gets in trouble with a Tannen - has a chase and / or a fight. Has to sort out a problem.
It's almost as if 2 & 3 are remakes of the first one in a different setting. 2 virtually is.
That's exactly what I don't like about them. I didn't get three movies, I got one movie three times.
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Yeah, watching all three in two days did get a little repetitive at times.
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Let me guess, they are stuck in a causality loop or something.
Nope.
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Still better than Star Wars. :hat
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"Everybody everywhere, will say, 'Clint Eastwood is the biggest yellow belly in the West.'"
BEST TRILOGY EVER. :coolio :coolio :coolio
i was watching 3 and I properly laughed so hard at " Eastwood Ravine ".
I love stuff that they don't even bring attention to - but if you notice then it's hilarious.
Also the photo of the Tombstone slowly revealing the name "Clint Eastwood" - :rollin :rollin.
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Still better than Star Wars. :hat
Maybe in alternate 1985.
But not in the universe in which I live.
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i was watching 3 and I properly laughed so hard at " Eastwood Ravine ".
Noticed that last week for the first time, and although I didn't "laugh so hard", it's defintetely a cool detail.
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Sorry if I enjoy my favourite movies :hat
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"Everybody everywhere, will say, 'Clint Eastwood is the biggest yellow belly in the West.'"
BEST TRILOGY EVER. :coolio :coolio :coolio
i was watching 3 and I properly laughed so hard at " Eastwood Ravine ".
Just like Lone Pine Mall.
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Yeah but that wasn't really a joke as such.
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No, but it was a nice touch.
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I just love how Back To The Future 2 and 3 are basically the same structure as the first one just in a different time period.
Marty arrives in a time - gets in trouble with a Tannen - has a chase and / or a fight. Has to sort out a problem.
It's almost as if 2 & 3 are remakes of the first one in a different setting. 2 virtually is.
As much as I agree with you and I love this, I could also see why people would dislike the sequels for the exact same reason. There's a lot of things on the checklist that they get for every movie, and I could see how it would bother someone, even if I like it. For example, Marty waking up and saying he had a bad dream, and then his hilarious reaction when he finds out it wasn't a dream. Happens in all three, I still love it. :lol
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Yes and it gets funnier each time.
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"You're safe and sound here at the McFly farm"
-"McFly FARM?!"
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So the trilogy made a further $5m from BTTF day. :)
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(https://i.imgur.com/eOYaGOy.jpg)
:coolio :coolio :coolio
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:tup
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:tup
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Very cool, I still don't have this on bluray. Will have to rectify it asap.
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I picked up the DVD box years ago, when it first came out. I love those movies, but I don't know if I actually watch them often enough to warrant the Blu-ray box.
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I saw this for £10 on Amazon and it's 4 discs including new bonus stuff ( Doc Brown Saves The World ) So I snapped it up and gave my DVD boxset to my 12 yr old brother for xmas :coolio .
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Oh dear it has 2 episodes of the Animated Series on there...
Oh dear it's terrible. :lol
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Nice, Kotow. :tup I haven't got a Bluray drive/player yet, or else that would definitely be the very first BR I got. I have the first DVD boxset in the black case. I think the blue boxset they released after that had an extra disc of bonus stuff. I do have the 1080p rip of BTTF2 on my computer though. :blob:
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This'll probably be the last time I buy it :P
There won't be a physical format which succeeds Blu Ray. Everyone will be all online by then. Shame!
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This'll probably be the last time I buy it :P
There won't be a physical format which succeeds Blu Ray. Everyone will be all online by then. Shame!
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Does that Ultra 4K thing count?
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It does but how many people keep up with the technology that comes out every few years?
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Just watched the trilogy again for the first time in years. Still a great group of films though the third is easily my least favorite.
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It does but how many people keep up with the technology that comes out every few years?
Indeed. I'm still surprised sometimes when people say that they don't have Blu-ray yet. I'm on my second Blu-ray player, my first one lasted over five years, and I was one of the last people I knew who got one. TVs are all HD now except for the Super HD or whatever it's called. Wouldn't you want to watch movies at home which took advantage of that?
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There won't be a physical format which succeeds Blu Ray. Everyone will be all online by then. Shame!
Currently the 4K Ultra HD format is the successor to the conventional blu-ray disc. Even though both are referred to as blu-ray, they require separate hardware to play. I don't know what will happen as far as popularity goes but I'm quite positive physical formats aren't going anywhere soon.
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I hope we never see the end of Physical Releases altogether.
Maybe VHS will have a renaissance like Vinyl has done and be more popular than ever !
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It does but how many people keep up with the technology that comes out every few years?
Indeed. I'm still surprised sometimes when people say that they don't have Blu-ray yet. I'm on my second Blu-ray player, my first one lasted over five years, and I was one of the last people I knew who got one. TVs are all HD now except for the Super HD or whatever it's called. Wouldn't you want to watch movies at home which took advantage of that?
I think we as consumers have to wait to let certain formats play out. Remember the HD Disks vs. Blu Ray's? When Disney tipped the scale going to Blu- Ray that killed the other format.
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I don't get why people always dislike the third film.
It's not quite as awesome as the original but there's no huge drop-off in quality from 2.
I really really hate Westerns but I love the third film more than the second.
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Seeing this thread bumped is a good occasion as any to show Tom Wilson's song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjYimspW-4
Tom Wilson is the guy who played Biff Tannen, he went on to be a comedian, and since he's always being asked the same question, he actually brings a printed paper of FAQ with him to hand to people, and he eventually turned it into a song. It's wonderful :lol
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Tom Wilson is the guy who played Biff Tannen, he went on to be a comedian
And let's not forget his stunning performance in the Wing Commander series with Mark Hamill! :lol
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I don't get why people always dislike the third film.
It's not quite as awesome as the original but there's no huge drop-off in quality from 2.
I really really hate Westerns but I love the third film more than the second.
Just to be clear I don't dislike the third film, I just like it less than the other two.
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The future stuff knocks Part 2 down a bit for me.
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I'd rank the 3rd movie just a tiny notch below the first one. Those two movie are extremely enjoyable to watch and I have no idea how hated or liked the 3rd one is but I think it's a great conclusion to the series and stands on its own when compared to the first one.
The second movie is also a fantastic movie and I think where people have trouble is, with formulating an identity due to the movie taking place in several timelines and then it switches back and forth a few times. It can get a little messy in trying to keep it straight whereas the other two movies pretty much occur in one place throughout.
Man I need to watch these movies again.
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I love all three. I might even like the second one the best, because I think it's great the way they tie things back to the original, showing the same scenes from a different point of view, and we the viewers having more knowledge of what's really going on.
It does but how many people keep up with the technology that comes out every few years?
Indeed. I'm still surprised sometimes when people say that they don't have Blu-ray yet. I'm on my second Blu-ray player, my first one lasted over five years, and I was one of the last people I knew who got one. TVs are all HD now except for the Super HD or whatever it's called. Wouldn't you want to watch movies at home which took advantage of that?
I think we as consumers have to wait to let certain formats play out. Remember the HD Disks vs. Blu Ray's? When Disney tipped the scale going to Blu- Ray that killed the other format.
I get that, but that means Blu-ray is not going away and is the standard for video in the home theater market, has been for several years. What are people waiting for?
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Personally, I've never noticed a difference in quality between a DVD and a Blu-ray, so there's no incentive for me to pay the extra five bucks or whatever per movie.
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Personally, I've never noticed a difference in quality between a DVD and a Blu-ray, so there's no incentive for me to pay the extra five bucks or whatever per movie.
I think a lot of it depends on the quality/size of your tv. The difference is huge on a 54 inch or whatever but not notcable as much on a 40 inch. That kind of thing.
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Personally, I've never noticed a difference in quality between a DVD and a Blu-ray, so there's no incentive for me to pay the extra five bucks or whatever per movie.
only now - studios shove the lion's share of special features on Blu rays so they sell more.
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Personally, I've never noticed a difference in quality between a DVD and a Blu-ray, so there's no incentive for me to pay the extra five bucks or whatever per movie.
only now - studios shove the lion's share of special features on Blu rays so they sell more.
That's one of the reasons. Some others being that the features they shoot in HD can't be shown as such on the DVD. Plus the BR disc itself has way more capacity. It can store up to 50GB for a regular bluray and I think upwards of 100GB on a 4K UHD bluray disc. The highest a DVD can hold is less than 8GB.
Blurays also offer other options like interacting with the menu without stopping what you're watching(though this has not been adequately utilized I feel).
BD-Live is another feature, though I dont care for it and again poorly implemented, where content providers can provide new content on a regular basis.
Personally, I've never noticed a difference in quality between a DVD and a Blu-ray, so there's no incentive for me to pay the extra five bucks or whatever per movie.
Like Adami mentioned, it can depend on what display you watch but if you don't notice a difference it's probably also because you don't care for the difference. There is definitely a HUGE difference between the formats of DVD and Bluray. I can get behind not noticing the difference between bluray and 4k UHD bluray but not the previous one.
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There's a huge difference between DVD and Bluray quality even on a smaller screen, I've never bothered to upgrade because for the most part I don't care enough to spend the extra money for the gain at this point. I just want to watch the stuff. Very few people have the equipment to showcase 4K though, and you'd need a big screen to notice the benefit over 1080p. I think by the time 4K becomes standard, the physical formats will be mostly dead anyway.
I love all three BTTF movies too, but 3 has always been my least favourite (not a huge drop-off, just a little less than the perfection of the first two). I appreciate it more and more over time, but the setting and story don't appeal to me quite as much as the setting of the other movies. It's still a damn near perfect trilogy.
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3 takes a while to really get going (although it was all necessary to the storyline), but once Marty meets Mad Dog in that saloon, it's nothing but awesomeness till the end.
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I used to think all the clocks in Doc's house at the start were on five minutes to eight.
IN 24 hour clock that would be 19:55.
FORESHADOooowwwiiingnggggGGG....
But they're not :biggrin:
Incidentally - 1.21 Gigawatts ? October 21 ? Was October 21 exactly 30 years later ? I always wonder why they chose those two numbers.
The film was released on July 3rd. 7*3 = 21 :biggrin:
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There's all very interesting, yes yes, but right now I think we should take a moment to appreciate how hot Lea Thompson was in a 50's kind of way.
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Is there supposed to be a point to Biff having his hotel in 1985A built on the clock tower ?
Or is it just one of those ironic things that the clock tower is always relevant to each film ?
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It's a good way to show his power. Not only is his tower smack bang in the middle of town showing that he owns the place, but it's also fitting that he's taken over the town's courthouse. Just the location alone shows how corrupt and powerful he is. Never given it much thought before now.
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Either I forgot or I only noticed it recently.
I love that there is SO much in these films hidden away.
I've been a fan since the first film came out and I thought I knew everything about them but I still notice new things.
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There's always something new to discover. There's so much detail in there that doesn't even show up in the movies, and is only appreciated from behind the scenes stuff.
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There's always something new to discover. There's so much detail in there that doesn't even show up in the movies, and is only appreciated from behind the scenes stuff.
Somethings I didn't understand til i got the DVD and could turn on subtitles.
Until i got the 25th Anniversary DVD - I never knew what Biff said when he says " Two McFlys with the same gun ".
Never knew what he said :lol
Also it wouldn't happen these days but Part 2 and 3 were made as one massive film for $40m total.
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Also it wouldn't happen these days but Part 2 and 3 were made as one massive film for $40m total.
It happens more now than it used to.
The 3 Lord of the Rings films all filmed as one production. Pretty sure that the Hobbit films did too.
Matrix 2 & 3 filmed together, as did Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & 3.
Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4 (still untitled) are currently filming together as well.
I know there have been some other examples as well, but they escape me for the moment.
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i mean two massive hollywood movies costing only $40m in total.
All those movies you mentioned probably cost $150m each.
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Oh, OK. Misunderstood your point.
But that $40 million would be a lot more in today's dollars, or even compared to the times those other films were produced.
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I used an inflation calculator online and $40m in 1989 would only be $80m nowadays.
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Not as bad as I thought. Cool.
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Something like Star Wars would spend double that just on marketing/promotion.
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I don't know if blockbuster type movies are cheap to make anymore. Everywhere you look now I'm thinking it has to start at $100 million at a minimum. Then there's marketing etc..
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Probably gonna sound cynical but i think every studio wants their summer blockbuster to hit $1bn nowadays.
So they spend a fortune on promo to try and get as many people to see it as possible. It has to be in 3D and PG-13 of course.
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I wish Hollywood would make more genre movies that don't cost a bazillion dollars to make. I think movies these days are costing so much that they have to play it too safe, with everything needing to be PG-13 with compromises to appeal to the global market (ie China), just to turn a profit at all. If there was less financial risk, they could take more creative risk, and develop new franchises that stand out, instead of having to bank on reboots and sequels.
But I digress.
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I wish Hollywood would make more genre movies that don't cost a bazillion dollars to make. I think movies these days are costing so much that they have to play it too safe, with everything needing to be PG-13 with compromises to appeal to the global market (ie China), just to turn a profit at all. If there was less financial risk, they could take more creative risk, and develop new franchises that stand out, instead of having to bank on reboots and sequels.
But I digress.
Maybe Star Trek Beyond underperforming will cause Star trek 4 to be made cheaper and they won't have to make *as much* back...
Or better yet - Spend $80m on it like you used to in the 80s. Focus on plot and spend the same on promotion and if you make $350m - you've made a much bigger profit...
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It's scary to think BttF is now older than it's premise of travelling back in time 30 years (we are now 32 years since BttF was released).
Great film, but didn't enjoy the sequels anywhere near as much. The whole idea of M.J.Fox playing all his ancestors past and future (apart from his Dad) was silly.
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Yeah imagine a silly premise in a time travel comedy.
I mean what the fuck.
::) who wrote this shit ?
Damon Lindelof ?
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Yeah imagine a silly premise in a time travel comedy.
I mean what the fuck.
::) who wrote this shit ?
Damon Lindelof ?
Yeah but it's undoing it's own rules set in the first movie where his own Dad is Crispin Glover (someone who looks completely different). If he's been played by Fox in the first movie then maybe it'd have been passable that all his family tree looked the same, due to some some sort of hideous inbreeding that had wiped the Mcfly gene pool clean of an variety!
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It's not undoing anything, nor are there any rules. It's reusing actors to play different generations as a bit of fun. The movies never presented themselves as serious science fiction, they're just fun light movies. Yeah, Maggie McFly looking the same as Lorraine was a little disturbing, but it's not supposed to be analyzed seriously. :lol
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The actors and actresses carrying different roles between the films is one of my favorite things about the BTTF franchise. It makes it fun, IMO.
It's not like it's anything new.
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First time I saw Coming to America, I never realized that any of those other characters were Eddie Murphy. It's obvious once it's pointed out (except maybe the white Jewish guy), but since I wasn't looking for it, it just flew past me.
Eddie and Arsenio each play four characters in that movie. The only one I caught was Arsenio as the trans chick in the bar who wanted to "eat your friend alive" causing Arsenio (as Semmi) to spit his drink out.
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I didn't realize for a while that Michael J Fox was also playing his own daughter in BTTF2. I just never paid much attention, since she's a minor character, but it's a funny little addition.
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It's not like it's anything new.
/Pedantic Mode (because i'm being picked on ;D). Apart from the fact BttF was made three years before Coming to America.
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First time I saw Coming to America, I never realized that any of those other characters were Eddie Murphy. It's obvious once it's pointed out (except maybe the white Jewish guy), but since I wasn't looking for it, it just flew past me.
Eddie and Arsenio each play four characters in that movie. The only one I caught was Arsenio as the trans chick in the bar who wanted to "eat your friend alive" causing Arsenio (as Semmi) to spit his drink out.
Arsenio was one of the other barbers and also played Reverend Brown (guy who introduced Sexual Chocolate).
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I agree that the sequels are lesser films, and Michael J Fox as those other characters certainly doesn't help them.
And the comparison with Coming to America isn't really valid. Eddie Murphy (and, to a lesser extent, Arsenio Hall), were all wearing makeup and playing completely different, unrelated characters (indeed, Orbert couldn't even tell). Not the case with the BTTF sequels.
The first BTTF is magical, and one of my favorite films.
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Now that I think about it, I remember recognizing Arsenio's character in the barber shop as being Arsenio. I thought it was a different twist that he would be doing that, and not Eddie. Turns out Eddie actually had two characters in the barber shop, neither of which I realized was him.
MJF playing Seamus McFly in the Old West was kinda fun. Marty may not look a lot like his dad, but genetics can be wacky, and it's not unheard-of for people resemble an ancestor from way back. MJF playing Marty's daughter in the future was just weird.
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Maybe - If Crispin Glover hadn't been a greedy prick and accepted a co-star fee instead of trying to get paid the same or more than MJF - he coulda been in 2 & 3 as Marty's relatives.
As I understand it - for some reason he imagined George McFly was the lead character in BTTF 1 and wanted a lead actors paycheque for part 2.
They refused and killed off his character.
Such a shame when people get egotistical like that.
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Crispin Glover's version of the story (which granted may be completely delusional) is that he didn't want to be in the sequels, but they kept after him because of course it always helps if you can get more of the original cast back. He finally said he'd do it, but named a ridiculous amount of money. So they recast the character.
Zemekis and Co's version is that he asked for an amount which was not "appropriate" for the role, so they recast the character.
These two versions aren't really contradictory, just the motives behind the actions.
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Crispin Glover's version of the story (which granted may be completely delusional) is that he didn't want to be in the sequels, but they kept after him because of course it always helps if you can get more of the original cast back. He finally said he'd do it, but named a ridiculous amount of money. So they recast the character.
Zemekis and Co's version is that he asked for an amount which was not "appropriate" for the role, so they recast the character.
These two versions aren't really contradictory, just the motives behind the actions.
I've heard that CG thought he was the star of the first film so shoulda been paid more.
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Well, again, that's what others have said. I read Crispin's account first-hand. I seem to think it was on his own website, but it might have been on another, but it was written by him.
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Well if everyone is saying one thing and HE is saying something else - it may be to save face.
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True, which is why I allowed that he might just be delusional. But it could also be that he just didn't want to do it and said "Fine, I'll do it for 2 million dollars" and they went "This guy thinks he's the fucking star of the movie!" and that's the story that has stuck and been passed around for ages.
I've never read or heard anything from Glover himself saying that he thought he was the star, only lots of people saying he thought he was the star, with nothing to back that up other than his salary demand. I have read what I think is a pretty good explanation for asking for that kind of money just to get them off his back, written by the man himself.
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True, which is why I allowed that he might just be delusional. But it could also be that he just didn't want to do it and said "Fine, I'll do it for 2 million dollars" and they went "This guy thinks he's the fucking star of the movie!" and that's the story that has stuck and been passed around for ages.
I remember reading that Jaye Davidson really didn't want to do Stargate, so he asked for a million dollars, assuming they'd say no. They said yes.
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That's what I mean. I've read a couple of things out there that point to Crispin Glover being on the neurotic side, so who knows, but nothing that points to him being so demented that he equates five minutes of screen time to being the star of a movie when he knows he's actually 4th-billed behind three stars who were red hot at the time.
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I recall something about him having issues with the ending of BTTF1, with Marty being rewarded with monetary gain for his troubles, rather than just the happiness of reuniting his parents being enough. It's not inconceivable he wanted out and threw a big number at them. It's also not inconceivable he was a bit of a nutbar and thought he was worth a lot of money. Maybe a bit of both. Who knows.
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Yeah I recall that - he thought getting his family back together shoulda been enough but he got a big truck too.
It was smack bing in the middle of THE EIGHTIES. The most material decade ever :D
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I don't know what you base that on. I'd say society has only continued to become increasingly materialistic over time.
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I thought this was really lovely and warm:
It's Time to go BACK TO THE FUTURE! | Reunited Apart with Josh Gad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crdYIUdUOhc)
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I got shipped some granite filament by mistake and put it good use!
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Well played, Brian.
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Nice work! Been too long since I've watched the trilogy.
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Nice!