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Title: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: ? on July 12, 2013, 02:06:20 AM
I'm surprised I couldn't find a thread for this brilliant song. Appreciate DT's first epic here! :) It's one of my top 3 songs on WDADU and I hope DT will bring it back on the new tour, no matter if it's preceded by Another Hand or not.

(I'll let someone else comment on the LATM version first :P)
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: serrano on July 12, 2013, 02:14:44 AM
If we forget about JP's toooone, an amazing version, much better than the original recording. My favorite song on WDADU. James performance makes the song shine even brighter. Time to hear it live again, last tour AFIL was great but i hope they play TKH this time. EDIT: in case they play anything from WDADU.

Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: wasteland on July 12, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
I love the Christmas 1996 version! (here's the first video of it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Dk95Iy4QU
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: The Stray Seed on July 12, 2013, 02:38:49 AM
Well... my nickname talks by itself. Amazing song, simply amazing.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: ? on July 12, 2013, 02:39:24 AM
I love the Christmas 1996 version! (here's the first video of it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Dk95Iy4QU
Nice version! The end of the video is funny :lol
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: The Curious Orange on July 12, 2013, 03:13:54 AM
One song I'd love to hear them play live, especially seeing how they nailed AFIL on the last tour.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Ruba on July 12, 2013, 05:40:45 AM
Epic song, great riffing.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Another_Won on July 12, 2013, 05:52:57 AM
I love the Christmas 1996 version! (here's the first video of it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Dk95Iy4QU
Nice version! The end of the video is funny :lol
. . . and the description.  Watch out Rich Wilson :lol

Did you upload the video, Wasteland?
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 12, 2013, 05:53:34 AM
LATM version is one of my favorite DT songs ;)
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 12, 2013, 08:36:54 AM
My favorite from wdadu!

*appreciates*   :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 12, 2013, 09:01:31 AM
I can't believe no has said "I am the killing haaaaaaaaaaaaaaand yet.


Great song.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 12, 2013, 09:01:49 AM
Appreciate DT's first epic here! :)
I love A Change of Seasons.  :metal
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: jammindude on July 13, 2013, 09:38:13 AM
I really like the LatM version...but finding out (a long time ago) that most of the vox were re-recorded soiled it a bit for me.    Now I pretty much consider the WDADR version to be definitive.

I've got a "lazy day" today (first one in a very long time)...I think I'll watch that today.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: SeRoX on July 13, 2013, 09:43:33 AM
The only song from WDADU suffers from absence of James. But none the less, it's in my top 10, live or recording.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 13, 2013, 09:51:16 AM
The only song from WDADU suffers from existence of James. But none the less, it's in my top 10, live or recording.

hmm.... I've always though James did a great job with it  :-\
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: SeRoX on July 13, 2013, 09:52:40 AM
The only song from WDADU suffers from existence of James. But none the less, it's in my top 10, live or recording.

hmm.... I've always though James did a great job with it  :-\

 :rollin :rollin fool me.

I mean absence.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: wasteland on July 13, 2013, 10:06:49 AM
I really like the LatM version...but finding out (a long time ago) that most of the vox were re-recorded soiled it a bit for me.    Now I pretty much consider the WDADR version to be definitive.

I've got a "lazy day" today (first one in a very long time)...I think I'll watch that today.

That notion should not soil it for you. The original performance was almost equal, and many a time during that tour it happened that James delivered an even better one.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 13, 2013, 10:09:20 AM
The only song from WDADU suffers from existence of James. But none the less, it's in my top 10, live or recording.

hmm.... I've always though James did a great job with it  :-\

 :rollin :rollin fool me.

I mean absence.  :facepalm:

That's a relief  ;D  The song never did much for me within the context of WDADU either.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: SeRoX on July 13, 2013, 10:10:28 AM
Yes, I don't like this "LATM is not James' real performance" debate cos of re-recording vox. There are many performance on youtube equal to them or even better.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: ? on July 13, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
I really like the LatM version...but finding out (a long time ago) that most of the vox were re-recorded soiled it a bit for me.
That notion should not soil it for you. The original performance was almost equal, and many a time during that tour it happened that James delivered an even better one.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Lolzeez on July 14, 2013, 05:16:50 AM
LATM version is my fav Labrie moment.  :tup
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 15, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
LATM version is one of my favorite DT songs ;)

I heard this version before the original.   :tup
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Laich21DT on July 15, 2013, 03:03:51 PM
Awesome song. I love the video from the WDADU era where JP is describing what it's about, which is a bunch of weird stuff. I agree that the LATM version is superior, but I also really love the acoustic guitar opening on the studio version.
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: TTD on July 15, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
The live version on the Hollow Years CD single beats all others
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: wasteland on July 15, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
The live version on the Hollow Years CD single beats all others

No, James isn't at the top of his game there. He was on better shape 5 months later when the new arrangement made its european debut in April 1997. Same arrangement (with slight improvements), great vocal delivery. (for reference there's the video I posted earlier in this thread)
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: Pragmaticcircus on December 27, 2017, 08:29:43 PM
Funny thing about this great little early epic, is that nobody ever points out that it practically has the same basic plot as Black Sabbath's Iron Man (and half a billion other dystopian sci-fi stories)  :rollin


But it's a damn great song, fucking hell!  :metal
Title: Re: The Killing Hand appreciation thread
Post by: SeRoX on December 28, 2017, 01:33:08 AM
It needs to return.