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Title: Rush Live Tourography - The Permanent Waves Tour (REVISITED - World Tour 1980)
Post by: The Letter M on January 23, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
As I mentioned in the main Rush thread, this will be a thread discussing solely the LIVE aspect of Rush, from their first tour on their debut album, all the way up to today. Each week (or so), I will update the thread as we go through every major tour the band has gone on, discussing the set list, various aspects of the show (including song changes, video intros/accompaniments, etc.), various important/well-known bootlegs, as well as official releases, and how the band has evolved their show over-all from tour to tour. Most of my information will come from the Power Windows website and The Digital Rush Experience (bootleg directory).

As I also mentioned, this thread will allow me to talk about and share one of my recent projects where I found the best sounding and/or most complete bootlegs from each tour to create a full show that includes all (or almost all) of the songs played on that tour for personal use on CD-r/iPod. The idea came to me when I realized the Snakes & Arrows Live DVD had four 2nd Leg songs from Atlanta as bonuses, and I wanted to put them at the end of my S&AL set, a la Rush In Rio's "Board Bootlegs". After doing that, I felt compelled to do the same for R30 (whose Blu-Ray release gave us the FULL show, which I then put on 3 CDs) and the Vapor Trails Tours (where I found a good version of "Ceiling Unlimited" to tack on the end of the Rush In Rio).

After "fixing" all the recent tours for full CD-r versions, I decided to go back through my bootleg collection and do the same for every other tour, or at least, do as best as I could with what bootlegs I could find! It took me about a month or so to compile my lists, figuring out which shows to use, and for those that were incomplete soundboards, which audience boots to use to fill in the missing songs. After figuring that out, it was just down to doing some audio editing! Weeks later, I created my "Rush Complete Live Tours" set, a whopping 43 CDs of live Rush!

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The band's first major tour ran from March 18, 1974 to January 31, 1975 and took them across Canada, the northeast US and down the east coast, then across the US to the west coast before coming back to Canada and the northeast for more shows. It was a long 11 months of nearly constant touring, but a fledgling young band had to do that in those days. They opened for Uriah Heep, KISS, Manfred Mann, Rory Gallagher, Hawkwind, Blue Oyster Cult, and Nazareth. Here are some tidbits from the Power Windows website:

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This was obviously a very busy time for Rush. The debut album was released in Canada in March, and drummer John Rutsey left the band in July due to health concerns regarding his type-1 diabetes. Neil Peart joined the band on July 29th (Geddy's 21st birthday), two weeks before the start of their first U.S. tour. The setlists varied from show to show, as Rush honed their skills and performed possible songs for their second album.

"I consider them brothers. They were like brothers to me. More so than Gene and Ace and Paul. I hung with them personally. Like, after every night we would go out - true story ... and we were in Holiday Inns then, not Ritz Carlton's or Four Seasons ... - and we would get on the balcony in a snowstorm, get all the blankets from everybody's room, cover ourselves with them like Eskimos and share a bottle of Johnnie Walker Red. We got along so great. We talked about our wives - how we missed them, and our kids and how we missed them, and our moms and dads. We got to be really good friends. I love those guys. Those guys could never do wrong in my book." - Peter Criss of KISS, That Metal Show, November 28, 2009

"I have so many road stories, but one that always comes to mind is the tour we did in the summer of 1975 with Rush opening for us. I always liked Rush (and still do). After a few weeks on tour I started to get to know the guys in the band, and their very funny tour manager, Howie. One thing led to another and before long Peter and I were getting visits from the Rush boys. It usually turned into late evenings filled with beer and grass and whatever else was around. Alex Lifeson, the band's guitarist, used to do this hysterical routine with a large paper laundry bag. He'd draw a ridiculous giant face on the bag with a black marker and put it over his head with a couple of holes poked in it so he could see and breathe. Everyone in the room at this point was either drunk or stoned, but usually a little of both. Anyway, Alex would go into this routine with the bag over his head and while smoking a joint out of his eye he put everyone into total hysterics. He really milked the routine until everyone was gasping for air!" - Ace Frehley of KISS, No Regrets, page 188

"Neil was incredible. I remember that when Neil joined the band and started writing the songs with them, Paul Stanley told me, 'I love Neil to death, but he ruined that band. They will never be anything.'" - Mick Campise, Kiss Roadie, Kiss Alive Forever: The Complete Touring History

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The first tour was pretty easy, the 2 Cleveland bootlegs have the best sound and are pretty complete, minus some fades between songs to eliminate crowd noise or wait between songs. Here's what I created:

Rush - Rush Tour - 71:08
(Live In Cleveland, OH on 12/16/74)
(Here Again At The Agora - FM Broadcast)

1. Finding My Way* - 5:14
2. Best I Can* - 3:10
3. Need Some Love* - 3:19
4. In The End* -  6:10
5. Fancy Dancer* - 3:58
6. In The Mood* - 3:21
7. What You're Doing - 5:25
8. Fly By Night - 3:13
9. Here Again - 9:06
10. Anthem - 4:35
11. Bad Boy - 7:17
12. Working Man - 10:38
13. Mr. Neil Peart On The Drums (Drum Solo '74) - 2:39
14. Garden Road* - 3:03

*(Live In Cleveland, OH on 8/26/74)
 (ABC 1974 - SBD/FM Broadcast)

I was able to use the entire first half of the ABC 1974 show and not repeat any songs from the second half of the December show, and by piecing both shows together, I compiled every (known) song they played on that tour onto one show. And because both shows were soundboards used for radio broadcasts, and from the same venue, the audio is fairly the same, and AMAZING. There's a crisp and clear, yet raw and bombastic feeling to these shows, and they are really rocking, pounding, and wailing away.

The first album cuts are all taken to the next level with Neil's frantic drumming, and Alex's solos go the extra step, especially in "Working Man", which features an embryonic "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" in the middle jam section. Of course, the most talked-about thing from the ABC 1974 show, of course, is the inclusion of a cover ("Bad Boy") and 2 Non-Album tracks, "Fancy Dancer" and "Garden Road". If you haven't heard them, you're missing out, especially if you enjoy the band's first two albums! They're pretty rocking, and in my opinion, at least one or both of them should have made the debut album (at least, instead of "Need Some Love" or "Take A Friend", which has never been played live, fortunately enough). However, the version of "Bad Boy" on the 2nd Cleveland show is longer as Alex takes an extended (near 3-minute) solo at the end of the song!

Also of interest is the inclusion of four songs that would make it on their second album, including an alternate version of "Fly By Night", which places the softer section BEFORE the guitar solo (which is a better arrangement, it BUILDS up to the solo rather than being a cool-down).

The two Cleveland shows are arguably the best from this tour, especially being pretty-near official sound quality, but there are a few more, particularly the show that first featured Neil on drums (although the sound quality is not as good). This first tour was certainly a "getting our feet wet" kind of experience for three young boys from the land up north, but their youthful energy is definitely felt through these recordings.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Unlegit on January 23, 2013, 06:25:36 PM
Great thread! I have both Cleveland shows as well, so I got the first tour covered.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 23, 2013, 06:28:10 PM
My cousin just got me the ABC show on CD.  I had it on cassette years ago!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 23, 2013, 06:36:22 PM
Great thread! I have both Cleveland shows as well, so I got the first tour covered.

As a Rush fan, I feel quite fortunate that things like this actually exist! For many other bands, these would be Holy Grails. I mean, how many first-tour bootlegs exist of THIS quality for bands like Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Kansas, Jethro Tull, etc. etc. I mean, there might be a few, but probably not as good or complete as these. I'm glad I finally compiled both shows into a single disc the way I did - it gives me the best of both shows and all the songs from the tour.

And in fact, I am listening to it right now! :metal

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Unlegit on January 23, 2013, 06:45:18 PM
Totally agree with what you have said, but to be fair, King Crimson's Epitaph tops this for me, even though it is an "official" release.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2013, 06:48:01 PM
Following.  Damn long OP.  Will read later.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Big Hath on January 23, 2013, 07:04:02 PM
I have the Fifth Order of Angels and Finding Prime versions of those shows.  Both have amazing sound quality considering the times and this being so early in Rush's career.  The Finding Prime recording has a great raw sound that really goes along with the band's music at the time.  I especially like that version of "Bad Boy".  It was also recorded in stereo as you can hear Alex's guitar going back and forth between the channels.  It's also great that Neal's very first show was recorded, but alas, the sound quality of that one is quite poor indeed.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on January 23, 2013, 07:06:07 PM
I have The Fifth Order of Angels, which I haven't listened to in a while. I'll have to give it another listen soon.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: KevShmev on January 23, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
Interesting idea.  I do like the bootleg version of Garden Road quite a bit, and it still strikes me as strange that it was deemed not worthy of making the first album while clunkers like Take a Friend and Need Some Love were.  But whatever.

I still need to check out Bad Boy.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2013, 06:22:19 AM
I'm not much of a bootleg collector, and only have a few Rush boots, but mainly later 90s stuff - audio and video.  They've got so many live releases (again, audio and video) that I'm completely content.  And with them doing one every tour now, that'll be just fine for me.  I knew they were tight with Kiss, from the stuff in Beyond The Lighted stage, but it'll be interesting reading about their earlier tours, and hearing other perspectives/tidbits.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Nick on January 24, 2013, 07:25:21 AM
Interesting idea.  I do like the bootleg version of Garden Road quite a bit, and it still strikes me as strange that it was deemed not worthy of making the first album while clunkers like Take a Friend and Need Some Love were.  But whatever.

I still need to check out Bad Boy.

Well they are obviously lyrically nothing great, they are fun songs and I enjoy them along with the rest of the first album.

Fifth Order is a great boot for sure.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: sirbradford117 on January 24, 2013, 09:02:46 AM
Will be following!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Big Hath on January 24, 2013, 09:03:53 AM
Interesting idea.  I do like the bootleg version of Garden Road quite a bit, and it still strikes me as strange that it was deemed not worthy of making the first album while clunkers like Take a Friend and Need Some Love were.

I wonder if it just wasn't fully formed by the time they were recording?  Because it is interesting that they closed the show with it.  They obviously felt good about the song by then.

"Finding My Way" was a great opener for this show.

Is this Neal's shortest drum solo?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 10:05:39 AM
Is this Neal's shortest drum solo?

From all of the 21 drum solos I have from my Live Series, at 2:39 long, it is his shortest, and this in contrast to his solo from the R30 tour, which was nearly 9 minutes long (and in fact, all of his solos since 2002 have been over 8 minutes, and over 7 since 1992).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: KevShmev on January 24, 2013, 10:07:18 AM
No, all of his solos on the current tour are super short.  Like 2-3 minutes each.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Nick on January 24, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
Yeah, if you take them separately, but if you look at it from the angle of total amount of show spent drum soloing then his first shows are still shorter.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
No, all of his solos on the current tour are super short.  Like 2-3 minutes each.

Well, true, but as Nick said, taken together, all 3 of his solos during the show would add up to about 5:40 or so. But still, it is shorter than any of his recent solos by any stretch. In fact, that total is his shortest soloing time since the Presto tour, which was about 5:10 long.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: KevShmev on January 24, 2013, 01:02:43 PM
Okay, but why would you add the solos up together and call it one?  They are three separate solos! 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 01:18:28 PM
Okay, but why would you add the solos up together and call it one?  They are three separate solos!

I meant just as a total time of soloing. Of course they're 3 separate solos, all using aspects of his previous recent solos, but this is also the first time he's ever done more than 1 full solo during a Rush show so it's a completely different circumstance and situation for this tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Big Hath on January 24, 2013, 01:26:55 PM
didn't mean to lead this into a discussion of whether the current solos should be counted as one or not.  I'm just interested in seeing how his drum solo has evolved and built off itself over the tours.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Big Hath on January 24, 2013, 01:34:10 PM
ok, a couple more questions you guys may have the answer for:

As far as stage production, I assume this tour had a simple light show, if that?  Was there a banner or anything like that behind the band?

And who is the guy that introduces the band in the August bootleg?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 24, 2013, 02:43:03 PM
Is there any way we could OK the sharing of these bootlegs so that people who weren't alive back then could still participate?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 02:53:37 PM
Is there any way we could OK the sharing of these bootlegs so that people who weren't alive back then could still participate?

These bootlegs are usually easily available around the internet, and considering they aren't official releases (well the ABC 1974 show sort of is now), should be okay to search and download.

As far as stage production, I assume this tour had a simple light show, if that?  Was there a banner or anything like that behind the band?

I'm pretty sure it was just them and their instruments. If you search for images from their first tour, it was a real basic stage set-up. In their documentary, they joked how they had taken garden lights and put them on 2x4's and used them as their stage lights. I believe they had banners at some point, with just their band name, but stage production was minimal, if at all existent. They were travelling light and didn't have much to bring around with them, especially with a hectic touring schedule.

(https://www.rushtrader.com/interviews/rushagora1s.gif)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KJpqVe8fg7k/SN_e4a6VEWI/AAAAAAAAAYM/hXDErfqXRUY/s400/Rush-1974-Agora-Ballroom-Cleveleand-Don-Kischner-bootleg.jpg)


And who is the guy that introduces the band in the August bootleg?

I'm not entirely sure. Either a tour promoter or someone who worked at the venue. More knowledgeable fans might know the real answer to this question!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 24, 2013, 04:10:58 PM
Sure, but if you're hacking together a "best of" mix of the tour like you seem to have done for this one, it'd be a hell of a lot easier if we could just host them here. That way everyone would have common ground. That, and searching is just slightly more work than I'm willing to do.  :P
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 04:16:53 PM
Sure, but if you're hacking together a "best of" mix of the tour like you seem to have done for this one, it'd be a hell of a lot easier if we could just host them here. That way everyone would have common ground. That, and searching is just slightly more work than I'm willing to do.  :P

Hmm, well, if enough people convince me to, perhaps I'll upload my shows for sharing, except for the tours that have officially released tracks in them (2112, AFTK, PEW, MP, GUP, HYF, and TFE).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Nick on January 24, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
I'll host one show per tour on my server, just PM me a full list of shows you'll want M.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 07:16:25 PM
I'll host one show per tour on my server, just PM me a full list of shows you'll want M.

Very gracious of you! I, and I'm sure many other Rush fans on here, thank you! I'll send that list shortly!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: ytserush on January 24, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
What about the 12/6/74 show at Electric Lady Studios in New York City? Sounds like it would have been lucky to find a dozen people there. Although the performance might not be as great, it sounds pretty close to those Cleveland shows and features "quiet and nervous" Geddy in between songs.



Strangely, there are about 10 or so recordings from this tour, more than both the Fly By Night and Caress of Steel Tours combined. Neil's debut, although extremely historic, is clearly the worst of these.

Were you thinking about including video footage? If you are, those three Don Kirchner's performances in December 1974 would have to be included.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 24, 2013, 08:06:53 PM
What about the 12/6/74 show at Electric Lady Studios in New York City? Sounds like it would have been lucky to find a dozen people there. Although the performance might not be as great, it sounds pretty close to those Cleveland shows and features "quiet and nervous" Geddy in between songs.



Strangely, there are about 10 or so recordings from this tour, more than both the Fly By Night and Caress of Steel Tours combined. Neil's debut, although extremely historic, is clearly the worst of these.

Were you thinking about including video footage? If you are, those three Don Kirchner's performances in December 1974 would have to be included.

Good idea! I had not thought about including any video footage, but anyone is more than welcome to "add to the pot" of this stew, so to speak. If anyone wants to post relevant videos/songs/performances in this, I highly encourage you to do so! It'll help generate and continue discussion, as well as enlighten many readers/posters here.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2013, 05:59:03 AM
I love the Electric Lady Boot.  The version of Fly By Night will get people with the bridge and chorus flipped in the song.  I realy listen to it so it always catches me off gaurd.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Nick on January 25, 2013, 06:16:27 AM
First show is up: www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1974-12-16.rar

Here Again at the Agora PE
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 25, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
YAY!  :D Will listen some time today.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Nick on January 25, 2013, 06:59:03 AM
I will warn everyone in advance that some of these shows are in .shn format, so you might want to download codecs/a good media player accordingly if you plan to follow all of these.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 25, 2013, 08:42:45 AM
Thanks again for the upload Nick! Can't wait for everyone to hear some of these versions of these songs, especially "Here Again", "Bad Boy" and "Working Man"!

I also picked this show because it does have some extended solos and better performances, but also because the other Agora show is widely available around the internet (as "Fifth Order Of Angels") and also has been released 'officially'. Heck, even I bought a cheap copy just to see what they put in to it. It's got some nice artwork, despite being from YEARS later, but that's about it. Nice to have another copy of it, though I'm pretty sure it's the same audio - I haven't a/b'd it yet to see if there were any mixing/mastering differences, but the original boot is so good, I don't think you could really do much to improve upon it!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 25, 2013, 01:56:21 PM
I will warn everyone in advance that some of these shows are in .shn format, so you might want to download codecs/a good media player accordingly if you plan to follow all of these.
I was just going to come in and complain about this. Fucking .shn's. They don't even have track titles.  :P

Thankfully, I was able to find a version of that show that my computer can actually play. I must say, the sound quality is astounding for being the band's first major tour. It's amazing how much energy Neil breathes into those songs.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 25, 2013, 04:28:35 PM
I also wanted to say that I can make copies of my Live Tour show mixes for anyone who wants them, but I'll either have to be send CD-rs, or do some sort of trade, mostly because since much of the source material is culled from free bootlegs, I can't charge people outright for them. If I'm sent blank CD-r's (1 for each of the first four tours, 2 from ATWAS to CP, and 3 from TFE to now), I could burn the shows onto them (all are WAV/lossless format) and send them back. It's just very time-consuming to upload them anywhere, especially since my internet connection at home is pretty slow.

Anyways, back to the tour discussion - Yes, it really is captivating how Neil really energizes the songs from the debut. One might argue that he overplays a bit, making his arrangements very busy in comparison to Rutsey's parts, but I think the songs are composed/arranged in such a way that allows the drum parts for very open interpretation. Also, being only 3 guys, busier drums sort of fill out the sound a bit. I was watching the clips of them playing with Rutsey on the Beyond The Light Stage bonus DVD a couple weeks ago, and I couldn't help but nearly HEAR Neil's live parts over Rutsey's, which really didn't deviate from the album much. He was a capable player, for sure, but he seemed unsure at times and nervous, as well as a bit unwilling to play out/extend his performing reach, unlike Alex and his changed/extended solos, or Geddy with his increasing falsetto wailing.

Neil could expand his parts on the same level that Alex and Geddy were already doing, and so when they hit the US and Cleveland, they definitely grew as a trio, together, rather than just being 3 guys playing on a stage. And you can really hear some of the synergy they shared in these early Cleveland shows.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2013, 05:03:58 PM
It's such a raw beginning with Geddy and Alex Feeling our Neil.  I love it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: ytserush on January 26, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
What about the 12/6/74 show at Electric Lady Studios in New York City? Sounds like it would have been lucky to find a dozen people there. Although the performance might not be as great, it sounds pretty close to those Cleveland shows and features "quiet and nervous" Geddy in between songs.



Strangely, there are about 10 or so recordings from this tour, more than both the Fly By Night and Caress of Steel Tours combined. Neil's debut, although extremely historic, is clearly the worst of these.

Were you thinking about including video footage? If you are, those three Don Kirchner's performances in December 1974 would have to be included.

Good idea! I had not thought about including any video footage, but anyone is more than welcome to "add to the pot" of this stew, so to speak. If anyone wants to post relevant videos/songs/performances in this, I highly encourage you to do so! It'll help generate and continue discussion, as well as enlighten many readers/posters here.

-Marc.

Well, those three videos, which have been in collectors circles since the mid-70's finally made it to DVD release (so I probably shouldn't post them here) Two of them ended up on R30 in the same poor quality as the first video I ever bought with them on it for $35.
I forget where the debut of Best I Can ended up. Now that I think of it, maybe that is still out there as unreleased.



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Nick:
I will warn everyone in advance that some of these shows are in .shn format, so you might want to download codecs/a good media player accordingly if you plan to follow all of these.


Scarily enough, I've memorized a good chunk of these shows from having listened to them over the years. When that fails, I'll walk over and grab the appropriate CD.

I forgot to add that those Cleveland performances and that Electric Ladyland show are kind of a contrast in audiences.

There couldn't have been many people at that New York show, either by design or not many people were aware of it. Even though it seemed like an unplugged setting with the quiet and respectful clapping, they still got their faces melted off by the band. I always thought that was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: The Letter M on January 27, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
I know I own that Electric Ladyland show somewhere, but I haven't listened to it in a very long time. Interesting about the small studio audience. I'll have to give it a listen again really soon if I can find it!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Rush Tour (And Introduction)
Post by: ytserush on January 28, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
I know I own that Electric Ladyland show somewhere, but I haven't listened to it in a very long time. Interesting about the small studio audience. I'll have to give it a listen again really soon if I can find it!

-Marc.

It's like 12/5 or 12/6/1974 (It still amazes me I remember this crap). You'll know it when you hear it. There's no other show like it in that regard.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 10:05:08 AM
With the release of the band's second album, their first with 'new' drummer Neil Peart, they embarked on a tour which started on Valentine's Day 1975, up to the end of June that year. It was a short tour compared to their first, although they traveled all across North America through the US and Canada. Once more, they opened for KISS and Blue Oyster Cult, but they also opened for The Tubes and Aerosmith (yes, that Aerosmith, for 3 dates), as well as a slew of other headlining acts (like REO Speedwagon and Styx, Ted Nugent, Thin Lizzy, and Nazareth). As Eric at the Power Windows site states:

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Unfortunately, little is known of this tour as there are only two unofficial live recordings in circulation. Comparison between the first recording in Cleveland on April 7, 1975, and the later performance recorded in Toronto on June 25th, 1975, show only minor changes such as moving "What You're Doing" to the encore, adding "By-Tor And The Snow Dog", and dropping "Bad Boy".

Because it was such a short tour, only 2 known shows have been recorded (each with 5 bootleg titles). What can be assumed is that Rush's and KISS's relationships as fellow touring bands grew even more, as seen in the Beyond The Lighted Stage documentary.

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Having only 2 shows available to cull from for my mix for this tour, I chose the Agora Ballroom show from Cleveland (once more), as the base of the tour, while adding "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" to the middle of the show, the only song played on the later date not in the first show.

And thanks again to Nick, here's the Cleveland show for all to enjoy!
"Bad Boys In Cleveland" Cleveland, OH on 5/15/75 - www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1975-05-15.rar

Rush - Fly By Night Tour - 65:36
(Live In Cleveland, OH on 5/15/75)
(Bad Boys In Cleveland - FM Broadcast)

Disc 1 - 65:36
 1. Finding My Way - 4:56
 2. The Best I Can - 3:41
 3. What You're Doing - 5:08
 4. Anthem - 4:16
 5. Beneath, Between & Behind - 3:03
 6. In The End - 6:39
 7. Fly By Night - 2:51
 8. By-Tor & The Snow Dog* - 9:57
 9. Working Man - 10:31
10. Drum Solo - 3:00
11. In The Mood - 3:13
12. Need Some Love - 3:18
13. Bad Boy - 5:03

*(Live In Toronto, OT on 6/25/75)
 (The Age of Wonders - AUD)

As for the tour itself, they played 6 out of 8 songs from their new album (the unplayed ones being "Making Memories" and "Rivendell"), as well as bringing back 5 songs from their first album tour (the one being left out was "Here Again"), but they bring out "Bad Boy" once more. However, of the 6 songs from the new album, 4 had already been played live on their previous tour - the only two "new" ones were "Beneath, Between & Behind" and "By-Tor & The Snow Dog".

You can really hear the boys getting tighter as a group, Neil's solo gets a little longer, and the new tunes really show the strength and power that this trio truly exemplifies. As with the shows from the first tour, there is still a certain raw loudness to the band's set, before things got REALLY polished and detailed, you can hear them really letting it rip.

As for the recording itself, it's not as clear as the first tour's ABC shows, as it only ranks an average 8.5/10.0 rating on the DRE, mostly because it's a bit static-y and not as clear, but all the songs are there. It's sort of like listening to it on an old old radio, and that's pretty much true since it was recorded for a radio broadcast. It's not as great as the shows from the first tour but because it's one of the few shows from their second tour, it's easily the best choice.

The end of "Best I Can" features a short segue into the next song as Alex sustains a feedback note into it. In that next song "What You're Doing", about a minute in, there's a bit of a train-wreck on Geddy's part after his vocal section is done.

"Working Man" is quite a bit longer than usual here as Alex and Geddy go through some jammy riffs and interesting improvisations, though the more knowledgeable may be able to recognize whether or not Alex's riffs are lifted from something else. Neil's solo following "Working Man" features most of the same bits from his first solo, but introduces a few bits that would later find themselves in "Didacts & Narpets" on their next album.

The Toronto date is the only one to showcase the band's first "epic", but unfortunately, the sound quality is around 6/10, but as a document to their performance of it on it's first tour out, it's worth having, which is why I added it to the middle of the Cleveland show, oddly enough, between "Fly By Night" and "Working Man", the spot it took in the Toronto show (really fitting and coincidental, but great for me!).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 30, 2013, 10:06:23 AM
Very nice write up, but I may suggest adding a link!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 10:07:26 AM
Very nice write up, but I may suggest adding a link!

Oh right! Your link? :tup

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Big Hath on January 30, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
so Nick = Nickeh

were you active on the Rush DC++ hub several years ago? (to be honest I don't even know if it's still around/active)  I used to spend a lot of time there.  I remember at every opportunity, the folks would add "eh" to anything they could.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Cedar redaC on January 30, 2013, 12:02:37 PM
I'll be following the thread, there is some awesome stuff going on.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 30, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
so Nick = Nickeh

were you active on the Rush DC++ hub several years ago? (to be honest I don't even know if it's still around/active)  I used to spend a lot of time there.  I remember at every opportunity, the folks would add "eh" to anything they could.

Yeah, that's how I actually got my nickname amongst bootleg collectors.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Big Hath on January 30, 2013, 12:38:59 PM
Ok, cool.  I seem to remember your Nickeh alias.  I'm sure we've chatted about Rush or other stuff several years back.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 12:41:10 PM
I'll be following the thread, there is some awesome stuff going on.

Definitely! The first three tours are a bit slow in terms of excitement and information, but the first tour offers GREAT bootlegs with GREAT sound. As a heads up, I'll be using the official release of All The World's A Stage to represent the 2112 Tour, since it pretty much covers all of the songs on that tour (with the exception of "Best I Can" which was an encore at one other known headlining show).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 30, 2013, 12:43:32 PM
Cool. I finally found a solid converter to bypass the SHNs, so I'll be able to take advantage of Nick's links now. Bummed that it won't have Snow Dog though.  :(
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 30, 2013, 12:48:06 PM
Edited in the link for ya M, you can post em up with the updates, don't have to wait for me. :)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 12:51:07 PM
Edited in the link for ya M, you can post em up with the updates, don't have to wait for me. :)

But... I already had the link in the bottom of my post...  :|

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 30, 2013, 12:58:15 PM
Wow, completely missed that. Was it in there when you first posted? My bad either way!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 01:04:43 PM
Wow, completely missed that. Was it in there when you first posted? My bad either way!

I edited it in after you reminded me about it 3 hours ago lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Big Hath on January 30, 2013, 01:09:04 PM
We have assumed control . . . We have assumed control . . . We have assumed control
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 30, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
Wow, completely missed that. Was it in there when you first posted? My bad either way!

I edited it in after you reminded me about it 3 hours ago lol

-Marc.

Heh, you ended your reply post with a question and it threw me because I wasn't sure what you were questioning, and I guess I didn't look back through your original post then.

At least I'm not *completely* losing it.

Carry on. :lol
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Big Hath on January 30, 2013, 01:47:30 PM
At least I'm not *completely* losing it

nugget!!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Cedar redaC on January 30, 2013, 02:36:34 PM
Okay, so how do I convert .shn files?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Big Hath on January 30, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
Okay, so how do I convert .shn files?

https://etree.org/mkw.html

but I'm sure there are many, many others.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 30, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
Trader's Little Helper is the best tool for going between FLAC, SHN, WAV, and other formats commonly seen in bootlegs.

https://tlh.easytree.org/
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on January 30, 2013, 03:08:58 PM
You know, as a Rush nut this is the only tour up to RTB that I don't own.  If I have some time I will listen to it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Unlegit on January 30, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
Decent tour. Bad Boys in Cleveland is a nice bootleg, although I am missing By-Tor & the Snow Dog. Any idea on where I could find it? It's a shame there were only 2 recordings from this tour. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 08:35:25 PM
Decent tour. Bad Boys in Cleveland is a nice bootleg, although I am missing By-Tor & the Snow Dog. Any idea on where I could find it? It's a shame there were only 2 recordings from this tour.

I'll upload a 'single edit' version of this song onto my rapidshare account (is this allowable here?) and post the link here once it's loaded.

-Marc
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Cedar redaC on January 30, 2013, 10:51:59 PM
Thanks guys, I'm really not too into bootlegging yet, but I've really enjoyed the one I just got (the 1974 one).
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Unlegit on January 30, 2013, 11:20:14 PM
It says download permission denied by uploader.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 31, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
It says download permission denied by uploader.

Hmm I'm not sure how to fix that, so I'll try to find another way to get it out to you guys!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Nick on January 31, 2013, 10:23:35 AM
Hmmm, never had anyone have that issue before and I'm accessing it just fine now... I'd suggest maybe trying a different browser if you have one available.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 31, 2013, 10:38:48 AM
Here's another link to the song - https://dfiles.eu/files/mk0c80ilu

Let me know if that doesn't work!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: Unlegit on January 31, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
Got it, thanks!  :tup
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: ytserush on February 01, 2013, 07:02:48 PM
It's a shame there were only 2 recordings from this tour.

Maybe part of the reason we all feel that way was because of the embarassment of riches we have from the first tour.

To get Neil's first gig with the band (as bad as the recording is) is almost like hitting the lottery and then to get several radio broadcasts from major cities in the shape they are in. And then you have the half-dozen or so other ones...

Very strange that it worked out that way but the next four tours aren't as plentiful.


Oh...may as well mention there are only two videos (Anthem and Fly By Night)  filmed on a day off at an Atlanta church which (again) have surfaced on DVD bonus footage. (Or maybe one has and the other is still out there)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Fly By Night Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 01, 2013, 10:18:51 PM
Oh...may as well mention there are only two videos (Anthem and Fly By Night)  filmed on a day off at an Atlanta church which (again) have surfaced on DVD bonus footage. (Or maybe one has and the other is still out there)

Good point! I was watching the "Fly By Night" video the other week and noticed Neil's set up had gained more toms, but still no concert toms (which would join his kit during COS). Interesting to note, though, that Neil has THREE floor toms to his right, a set-up that he only had then, as far as I know.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The "Down The Tubes" Tour (Caress Of Steel)
Post by: The Letter M on February 03, 2013, 01:05:06 PM
After the release of the band's third album, Caress Of Steel, Rush embarked on yet another tour that took them across North America once more, fro September 26, 1975 to January 10, 1976. This was a relatively short tour, a couple weeks shorter than their previous tour on Fly By Night. However, this time, they had some headlining sets, with Ted Nugent, Artful Dodger, Mainline (Joe Mendelson), Heyoka, and Max Webster opening for them. They also still opened for KISS, Mott and Nazareth as well.

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"We called it the 'Down The Tubes Tour', we joked about it among ourselves. By the end of the that year we were unable to pay our crew's salaries - or our own." - Neil Peart, Classic Rock, Oct. 2004

The tour was a failure, financially and popularly. Their music was slowly changing from Zeppelin-infused hard rock to something... different. It was a bit of Yes, a bit of Genesis, a bit of Led Zeppelin, and a lot of something else. They had songs reaching over 12 minutes, and expanded older tunes to greater length with added jams and solos (more so that before), like "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" which reached over 10 minutes at this point.

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The only confirmed setlist is Rush's supporting set for KISS on Nov. 15, 1975; any other published setlists are false or unsubstantiated.

Before 1999, when a recording of the Nov. 15, 1975 show first began circulating, fraudulent recordings of this tour were circulated, which accordingly led to the circulation of false setlists. In addition, for many years rumors spread regarding the setlist of a rumored soundboard recording, supposedly in the possession of a Jean Weinrib, aka Geddy's cousin, of Rush headlining in Toronto on January 10, 1976. However, the existence of this recording is believed to be nonexistant and its setlist unsubstantiated, as Ian Grandy, a former member of Rush's road crew from that period, has stated that he never heard of any such cousin, and that the rumored soundboard recording does not exist.
November 15, 1975 (supporting set [note, no authentic headlining setlists have surfaced])
Bastille Day
Anthem
Lakeside Park
The Necromancer
By-Tor and the Snow Dog
Working Man->
Drum Solo
In The Mood

As stated from the Power Windows website, only one real known show exists in the bootleg circle, and it's a show from Rockford, IL, which is an opening set before KISS. It's an audience recording which goes from middle-of-the-road to somewhat-listenable. And even though "In The Mood" is listed as the encore, no recordings include the song.

However, we are treated to a FULL performance of "The Necromancer" (which would be truncated in later tours), and an extended performance of "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" - these are the highlights of the show, and luckily by then, the sound gets better. There is the usual 70's AUD noise, but there are some rowdy kids yelling and chatting between songs, but not so much during them (mostly because the band is pretty loud). It's fortunate this recording is as good as it is, especially being the only one!

Oddly enough, there's also an 8MM Video recording of this show, silent, though, but the bootleg audio has been synched up. Once again, Nick has provided this show for all to listen to:
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1975-11-15.rar

Being such a RARE show from an otherwise under-recorded tour, this is a MUST have for bootleg collectors. Unfortunately, if there ARE any headlining show recordings, only people in or associated with the band might have them. Or some greedy collector. It's been long hypothesized that "The Fountain Of Lamneth" MAY have been played live during a headlining show, but because no authentic set list or recording has surfaced, we may never know. Also, "I Think I'm Going Bald" has been confirmed as having been played live by Ian Grandy and Skip Gildersleeve, so it seems that all of the then-new album may have been played live.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The "Down The Tubes Tour" (Caress Of Steel)
Post by: Unlegit on February 05, 2013, 05:33:18 PM
This tour needs more bootlegs. I'm 100% sure there is someone out there with one, but they are just not willing to share it. I'm also sure that The Fountain of Lamneth (or its parts) were played live, as was I Think I'm Going Bald. The only known bootleg actually doesn't have terrible quality, but it isn't very good. The setlist is probably the best we could have hoped for as an opening act (besides the CoS songs).
Title: Re: Rush Live - The "Down The Tubes Tour" (Caress Of Steel)
Post by: jammindude on February 05, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
I'm sure the "holy grail" of Rush boots exist.   I just can't believe we can't get confirmation from one of the guys as to whether or not FoL was at least played.   I mean, it should be an easy question for SOMEONE to have asked one of them "Hey, did FoL ever get played live?"....I mean, isn't that simple enough?

Hard to believe that this simple factoid has been confirmed or denied in someway.    I wouldn't expect them to remember an entire setlist....but I would think they would remember whether or not FoL was played.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The "Down The Tubes Tour" (Caress Of Steel)
Post by: The Letter M on February 05, 2013, 10:23:31 PM
I'm sure the "holy grail" of Rush boots exist.   I just can't believe we can't get confirmation from one of the guys as to whether or not FoL was at least played.   I mean, it should be an easy question for SOMEONE to have asked one of them "Hey, did FoL ever get played live?"....I mean, isn't that simple enough?

Hard to believe that this simple factoid has been confirmed or denied in someway.    I wouldn't expect them to remember an entire setlist....but I would think they would remember whether or not FoL was played.

The closest we've gotten to TFOL being played is a bit of Neil's drum solos that take parts from "Didacts And Narpets", but AFAIK, that's all.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The "Down The Tubes Tour" (Caress Of Steel)
Post by: ytserush on February 06, 2013, 12:24:51 AM
I'm sure the "holy grail" of Rush boots exist.   I just can't believe we can't get confirmation from one of the guys as to whether or not FoL was at least played.   I mean, it should be an easy question for SOMEONE to have asked one of them "Hey, did FoL ever get played live?"....I mean, isn't that simple enough?

Hard to believe that this simple factoid has been confirmed or denied in someway.    I wouldn't expect them to remember an entire setlist....but I would think they would remember whether or not FoL was played.

I think Alex was asked this question and he said that he doesn't think it ever was for the simple reason that there were so few headlining shows during this period and that not much of the album that hasn't already been in previous sets got played.

That's obviously an answer that nobody here wants to hear, but it's all we have at the moment. They gave it the Down the Tubes tour for a reason.






The 8mm footage is not the Caress of Steel Tour and my explanation of this as to why can be found here: (Rush geek alert!)

https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2395055


Might as well mention that fake Caress of Steel boot that surfaced several years before the real one did.

Finding My Way
Best I Can
Anthem
Bastille Day
The Necromancer
-Under The Shadow
-Return Of The Prince


I think that was the set. Either the tracks were studio with live noise pumped in or they were patchworked together from various other shows (can't recall).

Obviously, this didn't fool too many people after they heard it.



Title: Re: Rush Live - The "Down The Tubes Tour" (Caress Of Steel)
Post by: The Letter M on February 06, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
The 8mm footage is not the Caress of Steel Tour and my explanation of this as to why can be found here: (Rush geek alert!)

https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2395055

Thanks for sharing that! Very informative and thorough! I'm glad there are Rush fans out in the world that are willing to and can do this sort of investigating! :tup

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 10, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
Recorded and released in less than 3 months time, 2112 launched the band to new heights, and they launched into a tour that started March 5th of 1976, and once again took them across North America til August 1st, their longest tour since their first one. They constantly toured, opening for Blue Oyster Cult, Aerosmith, and Kansas. And when they were headlining, they had Styx, Sutherland Brothers & Quiver, Artful Dodger, Starcastle, Thin Lizzy, Max Webster, and Stu Daye opening for them.

With four albums under their belt, they had a growing catalog, now including another side-length epic, following on the heels of bands like Yes and Genesis. However, with the unexpected popularity and attention their new album gained, they managed to play longer sets, and headlined for 90 minutes, rather than playing shorter/opening sets of an hour. With the longer set times, they were able to play (most of) "2112", bring in 8 songs from their first two albums, and play more than half of their new album (of which, only "Lessons" and "Tears" are known to have not been played live by the band).

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Even though only 2 bootlegs have circulated from this tour, there is the official live release in the form of All The World's A Stage. The album's tracklisting is similar to the setlist documented from the Springfield, IL show. From the Power Windows website, on the set list:

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There are only two unofficial recordings of this tour in circulation; both are headlining shows, with the only difference being the placement of "In The End" in the setlist, and the encore changing from "Best I Can" to "What You're Doing". This later setlist is virtually identical to the All The World's A Stage tracklist, with the only change being that the "Fly By Night-In The Mood-Something For Nothing" medley is listed earlier in the show (inserted between "Anthem" and "Lakeside Park"), possibly to conform to album sides. The earlier show, recorded in Seattle in March of '76, was long believed by collectors to have been recorded seven months later during the All The World's A Stage Tour.

With that in mind, all I did for my 2112 Tour disc was re-order the tracks to match the set list from the Springfield show:

Rush - 2112 Tour - 79:39
(Live In Toronto, OT on 6/11-13/76)
(All The World's A Stage - Official)

Disc 1 -
 1. Bastille Day       5:12
 2. Anthem          5:09
 3. Lakeside Park       4:27
 4. 2112         16:01
 5. Fly By Night       2:06
 6. In The Mood          2:55
 7. Something For Nothing    3:57
 8. By-Tor & The Snow Dog    11:55
 9. In The End          7:20
10. Working Man          3:56
11. Finding My Way       5:13
12. Drum Solo          5:41
13. What You're Doing       5:47

(Tracks re-ordered to reflect
 known set lists of the tour)

Note - Missing "Best I Can" played
       on another night this tour

Despite most of the rest of my Live Tour CD sets having ALL of the songs played during their respective tours, this one is missing only one known other song in "Best I Can", used as an encore, as evidenced by the Seattle, WA show.

Being an official release, everything is crisp and clear, and being Rush's first official live album, you can feel and hear their intensity through everything, even the production and mix. This truly is a live album, and unlike the two that would follow, it's got a great mix of band and audience, and the famously known shout during "Bastille Day":
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Mike Myers claimed that at 4:01 of "Bastille Day" on All The World's A Stage, the voice that screams out when the music abruptly stops is that of his brother who is yelling "Nighthawk!", the name of his then-current band.

The set is a pretty good mix of their four albums, except the severely under-represented Caress Of Steel, which only sees 2 songs on this tour in "Bastille Day" and "Lakeside Park". It would have been nice to have "The Necromancer" or parts of "The Fountain Of Lamneth" on this tour, but they wanted to play as much of the new album as possible, and of that, we get the opening and closing tracks. As mentioned above, we do get 4 songs each from their first two albums, and probably the best choices from them, even though most of them are in medley form (a fate that many of the songs from their first two albums would see in coming tours).

As for the performances themselves, this is a top-notch recording and the boys really cook throughout the whole show. Of course, the highlights would have to be "Bastille Day", "2112", the extended version of "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" (before it became truncated to segue into "Xanadu"), and the closing "Working Man" medley (a trend that would continue for five more years) with Neil's solo at the end.

This tour showed a growing band that had reached the top of it's game, and so, with a growing repertoire and a yearning to experiment and explore, their stage show and instruments would continue to expand and evolve. This would be the last tour Neil used his classic chrome Slingerland drums, and the next tour would see Neil's set grow, and Geddy would include Moog Taurus pedals, as well as touring Europe for the first time. They had no where to go but up from this point on!

BTW - if anyone wants to add pics/videos/stories/articles concerning the 2112 Tour, please Please PLEASE do so! I would love to read/hear what everyone has to share! :tup

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: Unlegit on February 10, 2013, 10:17:43 PM
I love the setlist of this tour. One of my favorite setlists that they have done. It's too bad that Rush has never played Lessons live - love that one. Still, great tour overall, but I never understood why they always took out Discovery and The Oracle from 2112.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 10, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
I love the setlist of this tour. One of my favorite setlists that they have done. It's too bad that Rush has never played Lessons live - love that one. Still, great tour overall, but I never understood why they always took out Discovery and The Oracle from 2112.

They didn't always take out "Discovery" and in fact, usually played part of it when they did most of it. It wasn't until the Permanent Waves Tour that they took out "Discovery" in it's entirety. It is true, however, they did not ever play "The Oracle" until the Test For Echo Tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: ytserush on February 12, 2013, 12:01:08 AM
Before I get started I just wanted to mention I fixed a mistake in that fake Caress of Steel boot track listing.

Here's the correct fake set: Mistakenly included What You're Doing and omitted Bastille Day

Finding My Way
Best I Can
Anthem
Bastille Day
The Necromancer
-Under The Shadow
-Return Of The Prince



Okay...2112 tour.  Not too much bootleg love here either, but that's okay. All The World's A Stage eliminates almost any reason to listen to a bootleg from this tour...seriously.

There are reasons why I think this is the best live album Rush has ever recorded (There are also other reasons why just about any live Rush album is best live album they've ever recorded....well except for Exit...Stage Left, but I'll address that later.) Most of the recordings that ended up on the album are among the best performances that exist over the two years as a North American act.

One thing that wasn't mentioned was that Neil/Alex improv blues jam in that Seattle show. Geddy must have been having some bass trouble that night so we get a really interesting improv jam. We're not exatly talking King Crimson here, but it's still pretty cool only because Rush doesn't deviate from the program much during the first 20 years of their career so it's always nice when they go off the board so to speak.

I'm a little surprised that the Captiol Theatre show (DVD black and white and its probably online somewhere) in Passaic, NJ when they opened for Kiss wasn't mentioned yet. It's not the video masterpiece, but it's the earliest full show (opening) that exists to this point. (Unless you want to count the Rutsey footage from the doc.)



Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2013, 04:48:15 PM
I'm a little surprised that the Captiol Theatre show (DVD black and white and its probably online somewhere) in Passaic, NJ when they opened for Kiss wasn't mentioned yet. It's not the video masterpiece, but it's the earliest full show (opening) that exists to this point.

Wow! I'd love to see that!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on February 12, 2013, 07:24:14 PM
I'm a little surprised that the Captiol Theatre show (DVD black and white and its probably online somewhere) in Passaic, NJ when they opened for Kiss wasn't mentioned yet. It's not the video masterpiece, but it's the earliest full show (opening) that exists to this point.

Wow! I'd love to see that!

I have that and it's a great show.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: ytserush on February 14, 2013, 04:01:15 PM
I'm a little surprised that the Captiol Theatre show (DVD black and white and its probably online somewhere) in Passaic, NJ when they opened for Kiss wasn't mentioned yet. It's not the video masterpiece, but it's the earliest full show (opening) that exists to this point.

Wow! I'd love to see that!

I have that and it's a great show.


It's not bad. I like it more from a historical perspective than anything else.   

You can see the energy is and aggression is still largely there and you can tell what they've (Alex and Geddy) "ripped off" from Kiss's stage show at that point before they were comfortable enough to just be themselves.

Honestly, it doesn't get much viewing from me other than maybe once a year or so, but it is a valuable historical document.

Overall, there just isn't anything else during this period that touches All The World's A Stage. It's pretty much the definative live document from that period which is what it had been intended to be.

Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
It's the energy, the fight they have that I'm drawn to.  They were so hungry then.  They wanted to make a point.  That's why I love it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: wasteland on February 16, 2013, 07:02:52 AM
Good afternoon, people. I'm checking out Rush Live for the first time today. I just don't know where to start. Can you help this youngling? :)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 16, 2013, 09:09:46 AM
Good afternoon, people. I'm checking out Rush Live for the first time today. I just don't know where to start. Can you help this youngling? :)

Are you speaking Official Live Shows, or Bootlegs? Because this thread will cover both (mostly bootlegs) so if you follow along over the next couple months, I'll get through 21 tours, each with suggested shows, both official and non-official.

And to me, each tour is special, mostly because of the set lists, but if I had to pick 3 tours that I'd say are essential, I'd pick 2112, Hemispheres, and Signals.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: wasteland on February 16, 2013, 09:12:34 AM
Good afternoon, people. I'm checking out Rush Live for the first time today. I just don't know where to start. Can you help this youngling? :)

Are you speaking Official Live Shows, or Bootlegs? Because this thread will cover both (mostly bootlegs) so if you follow along over the next couple months, I'll get through 21 tours, each with suggested shows, both official and non-official.

And to me, each tour is special, mostly because of the set lists, but if I had to pick 3 tours that I'd say are essential, I'd pick 2112, Hemispheres, and Signals.

-Marc.

Well, to start with I would like something that sounds pretty good, so either SB bootlegs or official releases. I'll be following :)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 16, 2013, 09:59:20 AM
Good afternoon, people. I'm checking out Rush Live for the first time today. I just don't know where to start. Can you help this youngling? :)

Are you speaking Official Live Shows, or Bootlegs? Because this thread will cover both (mostly bootlegs) so if you follow along over the next couple months, I'll get through 21 tours, each with suggested shows, both official and non-official.

And to me, each tour is special, mostly because of the set lists, but if I had to pick 3 tours that I'd say are essential, I'd pick 2112, Hemispheres, and Signals.

-Marc.

Well, to start with I would like something that sounds pretty good, so either SB bootlegs or official releases. I'll be following :)

As far as official releases, you cannot go wrong with the first four: All The World's A Stage, Exit...Stage Left, A Show Of Hands, and Different Stages. They cover the end of each of the band's first four phases, and cover a good range of their work through live shows.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The 2112 Tour
Post by: Unlegit on February 16, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
I'd recommend all their lives albums up through Rush in Rio to start with. R30 is great, but it does cover a lot of material that was on the previous albums. In fact, the only new songs are Between the Wheels, Earthshine, and a few covers from Feedback. Of course, R30 Overture is just awesome. Snakes and Arrows Live is really good and has an awesome setlist, but it's also quite heavy with Snakes and Arrows songs (9 to be exact), so if you aren't a big fan of that album, I wouldn't really recommend it. Time Machine 2011 is decent, but Geddy's voice is pretty weak. I'd only get that one after getting the rest. Also, if you can get your hands on Grace Under Pressure Tour, I highly recommend that one.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 19, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
With their first live album under their belts, the boys decided to tour on the occasion, and embarked on a tour that would last August 8, 1976, all the way to June 13, 1977.

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Opened for: Ted Nugent, Blue Oyster Cult, Aerosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Montrose, Foghat
Opening Bands: Styx, Tommy Bolin, Cheap Trick, Stray, Head East, Be-Bop Deluxe, Artful Dodger, Starcastle, Max Webster, Angel, Rex, Rick Derringer

They continued to tour with many of the same bands they had, while still doing opening and headlining sets. The setlists varied from show to show, as seen in the 13 known dates with bootlegs. Eric of Power Windows notes:
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This tour marked the first time Rush toured Europe, and also the addition of keyboards and Moog Taurus pedals. It is believed to be the last tour they regularly varied their setlist from show to show, day to day, with the exception of the Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels tours (note: beginning with the Power Windows tour and continuing through the Test For Echo tour, Rush would "fine tune" the setlist during the first few dates of the tour before settling on a final setlist).

This tour would also mark the first known performances of "The Twilight Zone", as well as early versions of "Xanadu". Also, "The Necromancer" (at least, the last two sections) were brought back as a medley with "By-Tor & The Snow Dog".

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For my compilation of this tour, I did a bit more work than I had done with any other tour's live set. The bulk of my show comes from "Capitol Punishment", recorded in Washington DC, US on 4/17/77. Thanks to Nick, you can download this show here:
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1977-04-17.rar

All The World's A Stage Tour - 106:07
(Live In washington DC, US on 4/17/77)
(Capitol Punishment - AUD)

Disc 1 - 50:56
 1. Bastille Day*       4:58
 2. Anthem*          5:03
 3. Lakeside Park*       4:00
 4. 2112*         19:11
 5. Xanadu*         10:33
 6. Twilight Zone       3:24
 7. Something For Nothing    3:47

Disc 2 - 55:11
 1. By-Tor & The Snow Dog*   12:07
 2. The Necromancer*       6:24
 3. In The End          7:26
 4. Working Man          3:52
 5. Finding My Way        5:11
 6. Drum Solo           5:07
 7. Fly By Night        2:04
 8. In The Mood        3:44
 9. What You're Doing        5:47
10. Best I Can           3:29

*(Live In Manchester, UK on 6/2/77)
 (Hallowed Eth - AUD)

Note: Bastille Day's ending/Anthem's
      intro from Seattle Night - AUD
   

As noted above, several tracks at the beginning of each disc come from a show later in the tour, an audience boot known as "Hallowed Eth". This allowed me to compiled the best sounding versions of those songs with the rest of the songs performed on the tour, creating a show that has all the tracks played on this tour. I also had to cull some bits from "Seattle Nights" to fill in.

It's not my BEST sounding show, but for the sake of having the By-Tor/Necromancer medley, "The Twilight Zone" and an early version of "Xanadu", I decided to compile a 2-disc set of this tour.

The version of "2112" from "Hallowed Eth" is one that's only missing "Oracle", and has "Discovery" intact. "Xanadu" is obviously in embryonic stages, with a shorter intro and different guitar solos. It's an interesting look at an epic work-in-progress, especially for a band who is touring Europe for the first time, and is using Moog Taurus Pedals, which allowed Geddy to double guitar parts while playing his bass parts on pedals. This helped fill out some of the sound that only 3 men on stage can do with 6 hands and 6 feet.

What's interesting to me is the TRIPLE Encore that the band play on the "Capitol Punishment" show - first they launch into the "Fly By Night/In The Mood" medley, then come back with "What You're Doing", and finally close the show with "Best I Can", which, IIRC, this would be the last tour they play either of those last two songs. It would also be the last tour to feature "The Necromancer", the complete version of "By-Tor & The Snow Dog" and the ONLY tour to feature "The Twilight Zone". And speaking of "By-Tor", on the Manchester show, there's a bit of "La Villa Strangiato" during the guitar solo in the middle of the piece. Check it out on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gBDue4aoSZk#t=393s

And those wanting to hear the early version of "Xanadu" from Manchester, check it out here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koAPFPrZzDg

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: Big Hath on February 19, 2013, 10:43:18 PM
I have the By-Tor's Battle V2.01 version of that Seattle show.  Does anyone know definitively if that one is SBD or AUD?  It has great stereo separation, so that leads me to believe it is probably SBD, but it has a really raw sound.  Coupled with Rush's heavier passages, it is crushingly brutal.


Marc, have you heard Out of Hiding from Dec 10, Passaic, NJ?  It's apparently the audio rip of a pro-shot video.  The video may also be floating out there as well.  It has Bastille Day, Anthem, Lakeside Park, 2112, Fly By Night and In the Mood.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 19, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
I have the By-Tor's Battle V2.01 version of that Seattle show.  Does anyone know definitively if that one is SBD or AUD?  It has great stereo separation, so that leads me to believe it is probably SBD, but it has a really raw sound.  Coupled with Rush's heavier passages, it is crushingly brutal.

I think I've listened to that version somewhere before. You're right about the sound, but it's hard to tell. I've always thought it was an AUD show.

Marc, have you heard Out of Hiding from Dec 10, Passaic, NJ?  It's apparently the audio rip of a pro-shot video.  The video may also be floating out there as well.  It has Bastille Day, Anthem, Lakeside Park, 2112, Fly By Night and In the Mood.

Nope, but I'm sure it's pretty good. I'll have to hunt that one down and give it a spin. Looks like it's less than 40 minutes of music, but if the sound is as good as the reviews on DRE state it to be, then I've been missing out!!!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: Big Hath on February 19, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
I think the NJ show is probably the best sounding ATWAS boot out there.  Too bad it is only a truncated version of the longer setlist.  I've heard that the date in question might have been part of a festival type show, so that could explain it.  I seem to remember that it also is one of the later shows to appear from that era, I guess that also explains the Out of Hiding title.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: The Letter M on February 21, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
I think the NJ show is probably the best sounding ATWAS boot out there.  Too bad it is only a truncated version of the longer setlist.  I've heard that the date in question might have been part of a festival type show, so that could explain it.  I seem to remember that it also is one of the later shows to appear from that era, I guess that also explains the Out of Hiding title.

Interesting story. I'll definitely have to hunt it down soon. I've never heard of such a bootleg from that era, so it surprises me that something with such good sound had gone under my radar when I was big into collecting Rush bootlegs many years ago!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: ytserush on February 21, 2013, 08:08:38 PM
I have the By-Tor's Battle V2.01 version of that Seattle show.  Does anyone know definitively if that one is SBD or AUD?  It has great stereo separation, so that leads me to believe it is probably SBD, but it has a really raw sound.  Coupled with Rush's heavier passages, it is crushingly brutal.

I think I've listened to that version somewhere before. You're right about the sound, but it's hard to tell. I've always thought it was an AUD show.


Technically, this is a 2112 Tour show (AUD) having been played in March 1976. At one point and October date was associated with this recording which later proved to be false.


Marc, have you heard Out of Hiding from Dec 10, Passaic, NJ?  It's apparently the audio rip of a pro-shot video.  The video may also be floating out there as well.  It has Bastille Day, Anthem, Lakeside Park, 2112, Fly By Night and In the Mood.

Nope, but I'm sure it's pretty good. I'll have to hunt that one down and give it a spin. Looks like it's less than 40 minutes of music, but if the sound is as good as the reviews on DRE state it to be, then I've been missing out!!!

-Marc.
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This is that DVD we were talking about earlier. It's short because they were an opening that night.


I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Selland Arena, Fresno show from 11/28/76.

Again, they were an opening band but this is a higher generation soundboard recording.


Other interesting shows of are are the 12/31/76 Maple Leaf Gardens show which would become a tradition in the coming years where the band rings in the new year. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound that great.

The DC show was mentioned and The Twilight Zone is a rare highlight from that. I have a fondness for those UK shows in June of 1977 as it was their first European experience and the crowd is very much into it.

I think there are a few other goodies here, but I can't think of them at the moment.

Some of that 8mm footage that was mentioned somewhere above was recorded during this tour as well. At one point, someone tried to sync songs from All The World's A Stage to it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: ytserush on March 04, 2013, 04:10:08 PM
Always had a feeling this thread would drop to the earth's core.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: The Letter M on March 05, 2013, 12:25:53 AM
Always had a feeling this thread would drop to the earth's core.

I'm sorry - I've been through some really hard (emotional/physical) times lately, and I haven't had the energy/concentration to focus on this lately.  I think by week's end, I'll pick it back up with the AFTK tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: ytserush on March 06, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
Always had a feeling this thread would drop to the earth's core.

I'm sorry - I've been through some really hard (emotional/physical) times lately, and I haven't had the energy/concentration to focus on this lately.  I think by week's end, I'll pick it back up with the AFTK tour.

-Marc.

Wow! I hope everything is okay.  That statement wasn't targeting you at all.

I was kind of joking since I'm around here a few times a week at most and you and maybe one or two others are here so the times for lively discussion aren't really going to be that frequent.

I apologize if you took any kind of offense to that. Wasn't meant as a reflection on you at all.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: The Letter M on March 10, 2013, 10:31:56 PM
Always had a feeling this thread would drop to the earth's core.

I'm sorry - I've been through some really hard (emotional/physical) times lately, and I haven't had the energy/concentration to focus on this lately.  I think by week's end, I'll pick it back up with the AFTK tour.

-Marc.

Wow! I hope everything is okay.  That statement was targeting you at all.

I was kind of joking since I'm around here a few times a week at most and you and maybe one or two others are here so the times for lively discussion aren't really going to be that frequent.

I apologize if you took any kind of offense to that. Wasn't meant as a reflection on you at all.

I'm sorry if I came off as offensive. It's been a very trying time for me lately, but things have picked up a bit. Give me a little bit and I will continue on with this thread! I promise!

Either way, the next tour is the AFTK tour, so if anyone wishes to discuss the third disc of Different Stages before I get to my write-up this week, go right ahead! It's a great disc and an awesome tour, though not my favorite tour, it's got some great songs and the performances of "Cygnus X-1" and "Xanadu" on the Hammersmith disc are particularly great.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The All The World's A Stage Tour
Post by: ytserush on March 12, 2013, 05:06:50 PM
No worries. I'm not in any hurry.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: The Letter M on March 22, 2013, 08:09:58 AM
Touring on their first studio album in what would retroactively be named their 2nd Phase, Rush embarked on (what I'm pretty sure was) their longest tour yet, or at least, the one with the most dates, covering North America from August 17, 1977 to May 28, 1978

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Opened For: Blue Oyster Cult
Opening Bands: UFO, Max Webster, AC/DC, Cheap Trick, Pat Travers, The Babys, Hush, Grinderswitch, Crawler, Uriah Heep

According to the Power Windows website, they still did opening sets, but only for Blue Oyster Cult. Otherwise, they were headlining, and with 5 albums worth of material, they had a LOT of music to choose from to cover.

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This is the last tour Rush performed any shows as a supporting band. Although shows early in the tour featured a setlist with "Cygnus X-1" preceding "Something For Nothing", eventually those songs traded places and the setlist was standardized for the rest of the tour with the exception being that "Anthem" was dropped occasionally for unknown reasons. This is the last tour to include the song "Fly By Night".

Bastille Day
Lakeside Park
By-Tor and the Snow Dog (abbreviated)->
Xanadu
A Farewell to Kings
Something For Nothing
Cygnus X-1
Anthem (dropped from 12/10/77, 2/17 & 2/23/78 shows)
Closer To The Heart
2112 (minus Oracle)
Working Man
Fly by Night
In The Mood
Drum Solo
Encore: Cinderella Man

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This tour's compilation mostly comes from the official live release of a AFTK show in the Different Stages live set. However, three songs (and Neil's solo) were missing/taken out of the Hammersmith Odeon show - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112", the last two likely due to their inclusion in the first disc of Different Stages from the Test For Echo Tour.
With that in mind, I chose one of the better sounding Audience recordings of that tour to fill in the gaps.

Rush - A Farewell To Kings Tour - 94:50
(Live In London, UK on 2/19/78)
(Different Stages - Official Release)

Disc 1 - 47:22
 1. Bastille Day       5:05
 2. Lakeside Park*       4:26
 3. By-Tor & The Snow Dog    5:11
 4. Xanadu         12:21
 5. A Farewell To Kings       5:54
 6. Something For Nothing    4:00
 7. Cygnus X-1         10:25

Disc 2 - 47:28
 1. Anthem          4:54
 2. Closer To The Heart*    3:10
 3. 2112*         19:08
 4. Working Man          4:00
 5. Fly By Night       2:04
 6. In The Mood          2:36
 7. Drum Solo*          5:25
 8. Cinderella Man       5:09

*Missing songs fillled in by:
(Ron's Vault Release #5 - AUD)
(Live In Fresno, CA on 9/28/77)

32:09 - Non-SB Sourced
   
The Hammersmith show is pretty good, and being an official release, it's not hard to have any better, despite the 3 missing pieces, although any die-hard Rush fan wouldn't mind not having CTTH on a release (though this would be the first tour with it), or "Lakeside Park" (with the ATWAS version sufficing). The true missing gem would be a slightly longer version of "2112" than presented on ATWAS, but that's not a BIG loss.

As for the rest of the show itself, it's pretty amazing! You get FOUR new songs from the then-new album, as well as the awe-inspiring medley of "By-Tor & The Snow Dog"/"Xanadu".

To end the show, we get yet another "Working Man" Medley, and the unusual decision to put a NEW song in the encore (something the band has rarely done, but would later do on tours in the 80's). Over-all, this set list is as expected for this tour, although one might miss complete versions of songs from their first two albums, they now had 3 songs over 10-minutes long being played, and with that number of epics, they had to shortened songs. Which I am perfectly okay with considering how great "Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage" is.

NOTE - Sorry I took so damn long getting this updated again, and now that I am out of my funk from the last 4 weeks, I can continue to update this regularly!

NICK - are you still hosting shows? I'll need Hemispheres up soon! THANKS! :tup

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: KevShmev on March 22, 2013, 08:41:11 AM
As much as I like Cinderella Man, it looks bizarre in that particular set list as the encore.  They should have played it midway through the set and ended the show with all of The Fountain of Lamneth. :hat
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: Big Hath on March 22, 2013, 12:26:22 PM
As much as I like Cinderella Man, it looks bizarre in that particular set list as the encore.

ha, it sure does.  It's an ok song I guess, but . . . sheesh.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: ytserush on March 22, 2013, 09:33:25 PM
Certainly many believe that the third disc of Different Stages is a holy grail Kings show.

This may have seen the light of day much earlier, but Geddy was suffering from a bad cold that night and as such he thought it unworthy to release until it was discovered years later during the hiatus when hindsight determined that it wasnt' so bad after all.

There are a few others besides Ron's Vault release which I think are worthy of hearing.

The 2/16/1978 Glasglow show for one and then you have the  12/77 Montreal (partial) show for another. The 11/12/1977 Paladium, NYC show is very good; as is the 12/10/1977 Hollywood, FLA show. There are some others out there, but those are among the better ones.


This isn't a live show or anything, but I'll leave you with this tidbit that was unearthed several months back and if nothing else is a nice piece of history that we didn't have before.

You might say this is the earliest known video interview of a band member that has surfaced and as such it's pretty cool on that basis alone. (Aside from the Rutsey audio interview in the documentary it may be the earliest audio interview ever until a conversation with Neil Peart in January of 1978.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrsyO2zUaM



I think Cinderella Man fits as an encore. It shows they weren't afraid of putting a new song in the encore. I think the only other time that was done was Grand Designs on the Power Windows tour although it wasn't the final song. It's definately among my favorite closing songs they ever put in the set.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: ytserush on May 14, 2013, 03:55:53 PM
Thought I throw this here.

I can appreciate it much more now beyond its historical significance than the previous versions that made it out there.

Fasten your seatbelts. The intensity is an order of magnitude higher. Blows my DVD away.



https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJo3aVTRi61AXWGPRuTGXNFFCOBXc3ZAO
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: ytserush on May 14, 2013, 03:58:47 PM

Thought I throw this here.

I can appreciate it much more now beyond its historical significance than the previous versions that made it out there.

Fasten your seatbelts. The intensity is an order of magnitude higher. Blows my DVD away.




https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJo3aVTRi61AXWGPRuTGXNFFCOBXc3ZAO

Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: The Letter M on May 14, 2013, 04:08:18 PM
I watched some of that the other day. GREAT stuff, but I just haven't had the time to watch all of it quite yet. Good video and sound, though! I love it when stuff like this comes out of nowhere!

Also, way to resurrect my old thread! I may go ahead and start this back up. After seeing Rush last week, I've been listening to my Live Rush series a lot lately, and with renewed interest in it, (and a soon drop-off in work load), I'll have some more free time to invest in this thread!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on May 15, 2013, 11:44:50 AM
The Tour Of The Hemispheres began October 14, 1978, two weeks before the album Hemispheres was officially released, and ended on June 4, 1979, with nearly 9 months of solid touring taking them all over North America and Europe.

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Opening Bands: Max Webster, Ambrosia, April Wine, Golden Earring, Madcats, The Good Rats, Head East, Molly Hatchet, Pat Travers, Starz, Saxon, Wild Horses, UFO, Streetheart

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The setlist remained the same throughout this tour until "Circumstances" was dropped during the UK dates. In addition to "Circumstances", "Something for Nothing" and "Cygnus X-1" were dropped from the setlist for the remaining dates of the continental European tour. Rush closed the tour with a performance at the Pink Pop Festival where they played a unique ten song set.

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For my representation of this tour, I chose a whole show, and arguably the best Soundboard Bootleg of the whole tour, "A Desert Passage PE", from Tucson, AZ. Their first show there, but it's a complete setlist, with one substitution to fill in a cut during "Hemispheres", but otherwise, it's a great combination of completeness and sound quality.
Thanks to NICK for uploading the show:

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1978-11-20.rar

Rush - Hemispheres Tour - 121:16
(Live In Tucson, AZ on 11/20/78)
(A Desert Passage PE - SBD)

Disc 1 - 69:00
 1. Intro          0:54
 2. Anthem            4:18
 3. A Passage To Bangkok      3:54
 4. By-Tor & The Snow Dog      5:20
 5. Xanadu           12:18
 6. Something for Nothing      4:30
 7. The Trees            4:39
 8. Cygnus X-1        10:45
 9. Hemispheres         18:58
10. Closer To The Heart      3:24

Disc 2 - 52:16
 1. Circumstances         4:37
 2. A Farewell To Kings      5:35
 3. La Villa Strangiato      10:05
 4. 2112            19:12
 5. Working Man         3:09
 6. Bastille Day         1:43
 7. In The Mood         2:41
 8. Drum Solo            5:14

NOTE - During the show, there was some of Geddy asking the audience to calm down as they were pushing against the stage. In my version, I edited out all of his banter to the audience about calming down, just to create a smoother show, so the track times are different above than the normally released show. Read more about it here: https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=31
   
For me, the Tour Of The Hemispheres was one of the band's greatest setlists (that is, until a COS Headliner show surfaces :lol ). They play ALL FOUR songs from their new album, most of their previous album (four songs from AFTK), the longest version of "2112" they've played to date (and what amounts to about half of the album 2112), and the rest of their best-of from their first three albums (despite COS's only representation being a snippet of "Bastille Day").

Also, once again, the song "Nights, Winters, Years" by Justin Hayward and John Lodge (of The Moody Blues) is used as the Intro Tape music before the band came on stage, and on this show, you can hear Neil and Alex 'warming up' over the track before they start the show. It's fun to hear Neil just rock out with some crazy drum fills!

The show begins with a truncated version of "Anthem" (with the 2nd verse missing), then moves to a rousing performance of "A Passage To Bangkok". Then we are treated to the wonderful medley of "By-Tor" and "Xanadu", followed by the closing track from 2112. Next comes an unstoppable run of songs that close out the first disc of the set with "The Trees" seguing into "Cygnus X-1", and "Hemispheres" seguing into "Closer To The Heart".

And speaking of segues, "A Farewell To Kings" goes right in to "La Villa Strangiato", and then the main show ends with one of my favorite recorded versions of "2112" (right up there with St. Louis '80, and of course, the one from Different Stages). The "Working Man Medley" continues to be the encore, and instead of including "Finding My Way" or "Fly By Night", a bit of "Bastille Day" makes an appearance, and of course, the show closes with The Professor on the Drum Kit.

If you've never heard a show from this tour, or this show in particular, GET IT. It's one of the best Rush ROIO's out there, and if I had to give anyone a few shows to start with collecting bootlegs, this would be one of them!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Jaq on May 15, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Man, I need to download that show when I have the time. That's an awesome set list.  :metal
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Big Hath on May 15, 2013, 01:54:09 PM
there are some great boots from this tour.  The one linked above is awesome.  I'll try to post more after work today.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on May 15, 2013, 02:52:23 PM
Man, I need to download that show when I have the time. That's an awesome set list.  :metal

Of the band's 70's Tours, this is my favorite based on the set list alone. We're treated to a barrage of epics (Xanadu, CX1 Books I and II, 2112, and LVS, as well as half of By-Tor), the best of their short songs from their first few albums, and a good encore medley.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 15, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Man, I need to download that show when I have the time. That's an awesome set list.  :metal

Of the band's 70's Tours, this is my favorite based on the set list alone. We're treated to a barrage of epics (Xanadu, CX1 Books I and II, 2112, and LVS, as well as half of By-Tor), the best of their short songs from their first few albums, and a good encore medley.

-Marc.

Just for Xanadu, CX1, Hemi, and 2112 all on one tour this is and will likely always be my favorite tour setlist. 2nd may be Power Windows, and honestly the current tour would rank up high after that.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 15, 2013, 11:41:32 PM
It's hard to beat the Moving Pictures set list, but we can address that more when we get there.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on May 16, 2013, 08:30:41 AM
It's hard to beat the Moving Pictures set list, but we can address that more when we get there.

That set list is pretty good, too. It's a natural progression from the PEW set, especially opening w-... yeah, you're right, we'll address that more when we do get there, maybe in a week or so.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 16, 2013, 01:45:11 PM
Pretty good?  Just pretty good? :facepalm: :lol
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on May 16, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
Pretty good?  Just pretty good? :facepalm: :lol

Well, compared to the Hemispheres Tour, it's a notch below. But you're right, they did play 6/7ths of MP, as well as parts of their epics "2112" and "Hemispheres", but I still enjoy the Hemispheres Tour a bit more.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 16, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
Moving Pictures has nothing on the Hemispheres tour. The MP tour while great, features too many songs that have since been beaten to death several times over which, in hindsight, makes it not stand out as much as it should.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2013, 11:38:55 AM
The MP tour while great, features too many songs that have since been beaten to death several times over which, in hindsight, makes it not stand out as much as it should.

That makes zero sense.  At the time, those songs had not been played to death.  That's like saying, "Stairway to Heaven is no longer a great song because I've heard it too many times."  It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2013, 11:45:16 AM
The MP tour while great, features too many songs that have since been beaten to death several times over which, in hindsight, makes it not stand out as much as it should.

That makes zero sense.  At the time, those songs had not been played to death.  That's like saying, "Stairway to Heaven is no longer a great song because I've heard it too many times."  It makes no sense.

At the time it would make no sense, but now it certainly does. If you look back and evaluate each setlist through hindsight the songs from Moving Pictures lose value in each individual set because they appear so often. YYZ, Tom Sawyer and Limelight are great, but seeing them in a set is hardly anything special. What makes a set truly great, aside from some of the obvious choices are some gems, only played for a tour or two that allow it to break out and above the ordinary and mundane. MP tour had a good deal of that, but not nearly to the degree of some others.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
I disagree. It might make the set lists on future tours look less special, but not the first tour to feature them. 

Plus, I could nitpick and say that while the Hemispheres set list is stellar, the appearances of Circumstances and Something for Nothing (two songs I would call good, but not great) takes away from it just a tad in comparison to the Moving Pictures set list, which is pretty much nothing but one awesome song after another (except for Working Man, another song I would merely call good, but it is on both set lists, so it is a wash).
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2013, 11:52:16 AM
You are looking at things through the eyes of someone seeing those tours for the first time, in which I agree. But it you take this all as history, which it is now, throw all the sets into a big hat and pull them out not knowing which came first, second, and so on, then it's a little bit different.

And on the other point I actually think those are both fantastic songs, and reasons I love that tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2013, 11:54:32 AM
Oh, so you are ignoring context? 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
Oh, so you are ignoring context? 

I could really say you are doing the same, and at the end of the day we're just looking at it from two different angles.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2013, 12:01:48 PM
That is obvious, but no, you are the one who is ignoring context.  Saying you have to look at every set list and then judge them without considering when they happened is like saying, "Well, the Beatles music was ground-breaking and all that, but if you ignore context and just focus on what bands did what and ignore when they came out, it really doesn't look as impressive since other bands have done similar things."  Context matters.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2013, 12:02:56 PM
Yes, and you are ignoring the context of having all available info and judging it against one another fairly and subjectively without adding the emotion attached to the time they debuted.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: KevShmev on May 17, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
Your view has everything to do with emotion, like when you specifically said, "YYZ, Tom Sawyer and Limelight are great, but seeing them in a set is hardly anything special," which is your emotional reaction stemming from the fact that you are tired of seeing them in set lists. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2013, 02:49:01 PM
Um, duh? I didn't say having an emotional reaction was wrong, but simply pointed out that the way you were approaching things brought forth a very specific one.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: ytserush on May 17, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
The Tour Of The Hemispheres began October 14, 1978, two weeks before the album Hemispheres was officially released, and ended on June 4, 1979, with nearly 9 months of solid touring taking them all over North America and Europe.

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Opening Bands: Max Webster, Ambrosia, April Wine, Golden Earring, Madcats, The Good Rats, Head East, Molly Hatchet, Pat Travers, Starz, Saxon, Wild Horses, UFO, Streetheart

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The setlist remained the same throughout this tour until "Circumstances" was dropped during the UK dates. In addition to "Circumstances", "Something for Nothing" and "Cygnus X-1" were dropped from the setlist for the remaining dates of the continental European tour. Rush closed the tour with a performance at the Pink Pop Festival where they played a unique ten song set.

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For my representation of this tour, I chose a whole show, and arguably the best Soundboard Bootleg of the whole tour, "A Desert Passage PE", from Tucson, AZ. Their first show there, but it's a complete setlist, with one substitution to fill in a cut during "Hemispheres", but otherwise, it's a great combination of completeness and sound quality.
Thanks to NICK for uploading the show:

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1978-11-20.rar

Rush - Hemispheres Tour - 121:16
(Live In Tucson, AZ on 11/20/78)
(A Desert Passage PE - SBD)

Disc 1 - 69:00
 1. Intro          0:54
 2. Anthem            4:18
 3. A Passage To Bangkok      3:54
 4. By-Tor & The Snow Dog      5:20
 5. Xanadu           12:18
 6. Something for Nothing      4:30
 7. The Trees            4:39
 8. Cygnus X-1        10:45
 9. Hemispheres         18:58
10. Closer To The Heart      3:24

Disc 2 - 52:16
 1. Circumstances         4:37
 2. A Farewell To Kings      5:35
 3. La Villa Strangiato      10:05
 4. 2112            19:12
 5. Working Man         3:09
 6. Bastille Day         1:43
 7. In The Mood         2:41
 8. Drum Solo            5:14

NOTE - During the show, there was some of Geddy asking the audience to calm down as they were pushing against the stage. In my version, I edited out all of his banter to the audience about calming down, just to create a smoother show, so the track times are different above than the normally released show. Read more about it here: https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=31
   
For me, the Tour Of The Hemispheres was one of the band's greatest setlists (that is, until a COS Headliner show surfaces :lol ). They play ALL FOUR songs from their new album, most of their previous album (four songs from AFTK), the longest version of "2112" they've played to date (and what amounts to about half of the album 2112), and the rest of their best-of from their first three albums (despite COS's only representation being a snippet of "Bastille Day").

Also, once again, the song "Nights, Winters, Years" by Justin Hayward and John Lodge (of The Moody Blues) is used as the Intro Tape music before the band came on stage, and on this show, you can hear Neil and Alex 'warming up' over the track before they start the show. It's fun to hear Neil just rock out with some crazy drum fills!

The show begins with a truncated version of "Anthem" (with the 2nd verse missing), then moves to a rousing performance of "A Passage To Bangkok". Then we are treated to the wonderful medley of "By-Tor" and "Xanadu", followed by the closing track from 2112. Next comes an unstoppable run of songs that close out the first disc of the set with "The Trees" seguing into "Cygnus X-1", and "Hemispheres" seguing into "Closer To The Heart".

And speaking of segues, "A Farewell To Kings" goes right in to "La Villa Strangiato", and then the main show ends with one of my favorite recorded versions of "2112" (right up there with St. Louis '80, and of course, the one from Different Stages). The "Working Man Medley" continues to be the encore, and instead of including "Finding My Way" or "Fly By Night", a bit of "Bastille Day" makes an appearance, and of course, the show closes with The Professor on the Drum Kit.

If you've never heard a show from this tour, or this show in particular, GET IT. It's one of the best Rush ROIO's out there, and if I had to give anyone a few shows to start with collecting bootlegs, this would be one of them!

-Marc.

Ah yes. The Tucson show.  It's been almost 20 years since first surfaced. it was considered kind of a holy grail when it was "unearthed." At the time there were higher generation soundboards like Fresno or Chicago and a handful of other pretty amazing Hemispheres shows like Vancouver and Toronto (where they play auld lang syne..cool show but it doesn't sound that great)

Since then of course there have been really great sounding Hemispheres shows (some full and some partial) from Detroit, Boston Frankfurt, Oslo, Pink Pop......

Easily a top five tour based on the set. Only a few songs we'd ever see the likes of again for obvious reasons as they took it as far as they wanted.

This is the definative Rush set for the 1970s. No other set comes close. Everything you want is here. It would never happen again. I hope there's something in the vault that will see the light of day at some point. I mean the third disc of Different Stages was a godsend, but it's still no Hemispheres Tour.


The Archives Tour is nothing to sneeze at either, even if it's similar to the A Farewell To Kings Tour. The Niagra Falls show is probably the best representation of that.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on May 18, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
As a heads up, I'll be posting about the PEW Tour tomorrow. And as hinted at, I do use the well-known and highly regarded St. Louis '80 show as the basis for my Compiled Live show for this tour, as well as the PEW Tour songs used on Exit...Stage Left (with the rest filled in from a good AUD bootleg).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Permanent Waves Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 19, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
The Permanent Waves Tour began 16 days after the album's release (a first, I believe, as their previous tours began BEFORE an album release after their debut), starting on January 17, 1980, and lasting about only 5 months til June 22, 1980. Once again, they toured most of North America and the U.K., including a five-night stay at the Hammersmith Odeon and two nights at The Apollo in Glasgow, Scotland, where songs for their next album were recorded.

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Opening Bands: Max Webster, .38 Special, Saxon, Quartz, Roadmaster, Saga

"Geddy added that a slide display to coincide with ['Natural Science'] is being planned. 'We're expanding to a few other sequences which are going to be a little different. They feature a series of paintings by someone who actually lives in the Cleveland area. He's a fan of ours, and showed us his work the last time we were in Cleveland. We've kept in contact with him and we've now hired him to do a number of scenes. We'll sync the film with the music, like last year. Films are something we've always wanted to do, but it's all dictated by cost. Even now, although we're doing very well, there remain certain costs which are prohibitive. There's a lot of cities on the last tour that didn't see our film projections because they were still being made. Your're always catching up to yourself-you want to make sure it's right and put as much as possible into it. We've expanded somewhat on our lighting: it's an elaborate system already and is hard to add to. So, we maintain the quality and make subtle changes." - Geddy Lee, Northeast Ohio Scene, February 14-20, 1980

"Whenever possible, after each show, Rush and their road crew head for a nearby ice hockey rink for a late-night game with real sticks (contributed by some friends on the Montreal Canadiens team), real uniforms, and real body checking. In warmer climes, they're fond of the mini-auto race tracks in amusement parks." David Fricke, Circus Magazine, April 1, 1980

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The set I have listed below is a compilation of THREE shows, but only 33 minutes (about a 1/4th of the set) is not soundboard-quality. Linked just below is the astonishing "St. Louis '80 Remastered" (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1365) show!

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1980-02-14.rar (Just the St. Louis '80 show)

Rush - Permanent Waves Tour - 122:19
(Live In St. Louis, MO on 2/14/1980)
(St. Louis '80 Remastered - Broadcast)

Disc 1 - 60:55
 1. 2112         14:51
 2. Freewill*          5:52
 3. By-Tor And The Snow Dog      5:14
 4. Xanadu            12:29
 5. The Spirit Of Radio      5:07
 6. Natural Science         8:20
 7. A Passage To Bangkok^    3:57
 8. The Trees*          5:05

Disc 2 - 61:24
 1. Cygnus X-1*          8:18
 2. Hemispheres*      14:17
 3. Closer To The Heart*^    3:05
 4. Beneath, Between, Behind^    2:26
 5. Jacob's Ladder^       8:35
 6. Working Man         3:30
 7. Finding My Way Intro      0:23
 8. Anthem            1:40
 9. Bastille Day         1:28
10. In The Mood         2:39
11. Drum Solo            5:12
12. La Villa Strangiato      9:41


^ - Exit...Stage Left (Official)
    Live In Glasgow, UK on 6/10-11/80
* - Timeless Wavelength PE - AUD
    Live In Fort Worth, TX on 2/2/80

St. Louis - New Peak Amp 6db
ESL - New Peak Amp -2db

33:32 - Non-SB Sourced

When I compiled this set, I knew immediately I would have to start with the acclaimed St. Louis bootleg. It is another Holy Grail-type recording, being a super clear, super crisp soundboard-quality pre-broadcast audio show. That show itself has a LOT of great songs, including a good chunk of "2112", the popular "By-Tor/Xanadu" medley, a hard-rocking version"Natural Science", the ever-changing "Working Man-Medley" to close the main set, and a great version of "La Villa Strangiato" as the encore. While it's not a COMPLETE show, it's one of the BEST sounding bootlegs out there. Another highly-recommended show for any Rush fan. The show itself is only about 73 minutes long, and as it'll fit on to one CD, it's great to have around! But of course, this didn't satisfy my needs for this tour...

So I filled out my set with the PEW-Tour songs used on Exit...Stage Left. Like when I used Different Stages Disc 3 and All The World's A Stage to represent those respective tours, I decided to use the four tracks from ESL to fill out the St. Louis show. Luckily (or ironically), those four tracks weren't doubled with any tracks on St. Louis, so between the two, I got a good chunk of the PEW set list in GREAT audio quality! ESL-fans will know how good these tracks sound, so I won't discuss them here. But still, I was missing "Freewill", "The Trees", and both Books of "Cygnus X-1" (both abbreviated)...

Which is where the semi-well-known "Timeless Wavelength PE" Audience bootleg came in. It's one of the better Audience shows from the PEW tour, and more complete. I used this show to fill out the missing 33:32 of the show. It's sad that there's no higher quality boot that includes these songs, although I'm okay with them being less-than-top-quality since the "Trees"/"Cygnus X-1" sequence was done on the prior tour, and in FULL versions, too. They're just included here for completion's sake!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Permanent Waves Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 19, 2013, 11:00:28 PM
Why is the St. Louis bootleg infamous? ???
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Permanent Waves Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 19, 2013, 11:37:31 PM
Why is the St. Louis bootleg infamous? ???

Maybe my word-choice is wrong? I've been tired all day... maybe I meant more like acclaimed or renowned. Yeah, we'll go with that. My bad! :facepalm: :lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Permanent Waves Tour
Post by: Big Hath on May 20, 2013, 08:39:36 AM
Going back to the Hemispheres tour for a moment, some other outstanding boots I go to often are Waltz of the Shreves (really good audience recording from Vancouver), and the previously mentioned soundboards Buenas Nochas! Motor City and Black Forest.



St Louis '80 Remastered, first bootleg I ever got.  Wow, what an awesome boot and show!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Permanent Waves Tour
Post by: ytserush on May 20, 2013, 06:37:46 PM
Going back to the Hemispheres tour for a moment, some other outstanding boots I go to often are Waltz of the Shreves (really good audience recording from Vancouver), and the previously mentioned soundboards Buenas Nochas! Motor City and Black Forest.



St Louis '80 Remastered, first bootleg I ever got.  Wow, what an awesome boot and show!

Gotta give some love for the Semi Tour of Some of The Hemispheres which was essentially a warm up tour to get ready to record Permanent Waves in the studio where the band road-tested pre-recorded versions of The Spirit Of Radio and Freewill (fluid guitar solo)

One of the better recordings of this period is the 9/12/79 Allentown Fairgrounds show. Also of note is the 9/8/79 Alpine Valley show.

An although the sound is quite what most would call up to snuff, there's about an hour soundcheck from 8/31/79 in which Entre Nous was played.

This sound check was a much bigger deal before the band dusted off the song for the Snakes and Arrows Tour as there had only been a few soundcheck versions available before that. Still pretty cool if you've never heard a sound check before.

As far as the Permanent Waves Tour goes, aside from the iconic St. Louis 1980 show (which has spoiled many a Rush fan) and the Forth Worth show, there are a few others worthy of consideration here. Most noably the  1/21 80 Montreal show and the last third of a soundboard show from New York (I forget the venue...it wasn't the Garden, but a club/theater show)

Like  the Hemispheres and Semi tours before it, this was Rush at the top of their chops game while losing little of the energy from the '70s tours. The set probable equals the Hemispheres set anythng that was lost songwise was swapped for something more fresh and equally as compelling.

Despite the iconic St. Louis 1980 show, I think this tour is often overshaddowed by the tour the following year.  I think I still prefer this tour over the Moving Pictures Tour. I think there's more energy here on stage based on the recordings I've heard.

I think my top two tours by this point are Permanent Waves followed  very closely by Hemispheres. (or maybe this is a dead heat for me)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Permanent Waves Tour
Post by: snowdog on May 22, 2013, 02:43:50 PM
Despite the iconic St. Louis 1980 show, I think this tour is often overshaddowed by the tour the following year.  I think I still prefer this tour over the Moving Pictures Tour. I think there's more energy here on stage based on the recordings I've heard.

I think my top two tours by this point are Permanent Waves followed  very closely by Hemispheres. (or maybe this is a dead heat for me)
I agree.  The Hemisphere's tour is good in that there is almost no truncation of songs.  But the Permanent Waves had By-Tor/Xanadu, La Villa, most of Hemispheres, most of Cygnus X-1, most of 2112, the Trees, Freewill, Natural Science, and Jacob's Ladder.  I'll take all of that over the MP tour any day.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Moving Pictures Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 28, 2013, 09:38:38 AM
The Moving Pictures Tour started 12 days after the album's release, from February 19th, 1981 to July 5th. They only toured North America during these five months, but they would hit Europe on the next tour in support of their 2nd live album, Exit...Stage Left.

They toured with fewer opening bands, at least that I am aware of. According to Eric at the Power Windows website, they opened with FM, Max Webster, and Ian Hunter.

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Linked just below is the well-known Chicago audience bootleg from this tour, which has gone through many versions, but this is the "Definitive Edition" of the show. It's one of the fairly good and complete audience bootlegs from this tour, and any early tour for that matter.

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1981-03-01.rar

Rush - Moving Pictures Tour - 114:47
(Live In Montreal, QC on 3/24/81)
(Exit...Stage Left Album/Video Source)

Disc 1 - 61:02
 1. 2112 Overture^       4:31
 2. The Temples of Syrinx^    2:11
 3. Freewill          5:36
 4. Limelight          4:32
 5. Hemispheres: I. Prelude*    4:21
 6. Beneath, Between And Behind* 2:51
 7. The Camera Eye*      10:57
 8. YYZ             2:21
 9. Drum Solo          3:12
10. YYZ (Continued)       2:05
11. Broon's Bane       1:37
12. The Trees          4:33
13. Xanadu         12:15

Disc 2 - 54:05
14. The Spirit Of Radio       5:03
15. Red Barchetta       6:37
16. Closer To The Heart       3:28
17. Tom Sawyer          4:44
18. Vital Signs          5:19
19. Natural Science*       7:58
20. Working Man*       1:17
21. Hemispheres: IV. Armageddon* 0:54
22. By-Tor & The Snow Dog    4:05
23. In the End          1:42
24. In The Mood          1:33
25. 2112: VII. Grand Finale    2:09
26. La Villa Strangiato       9:16

^ - Live In Edmonton, AB on 6/25/81
    2112 Deluxe Edition Bonus Tracks
* - Live In Chicago, IL on 3/1/81
    The Definitive Edition - AUD
New Peak Amp for both sources = -3.0

28:18 - Non-SB Sourced

Like with the PEW Tour show I did, I knew I needed to start with the ESL CD for the MP Tour tracks, and then I added the ESL Video tracks, and that gave me a good chunk of the show in great quality! The rest of the tracks I pulled from the Chicago show, which include the 18-minute chunk of "Hemispheres: Prelude", "Beneath, Between And Behind", "The Camera Eye" in the first half, and the 10 minute chunk of "Natural Science", "Working Man" snippet and "By-Tor" in the second half.

Originally, I used the Chicago show for the opening "2112" bit, but then the 2112 Deluxe Edition was released and they added tracks from the Moving Pictures Tour on to it, so it was a perfect excuse to add them to the beginning to give the show a more soundboard-quality sound. And so, with less than 23% of this compilation in audience-quality, I was greatly satisfied!

As for the show itself, those with the ESL CD and Video will know how great those tracks are. Obviously, I can't get enough of the "Broon's Bane/The Trees/Xanadu" chunk of songs, one of my favorite runs of songs on this tour. And then there's the outro-medley that starts with "Working Man" (now degraded down to a minute-long snippet), segueing into an odd section of "Hemispheres", then going in to a chunk of "By-Tor" (no longer preceding "Xanadu"). The main show ends with "2112: VII. Grand Finale", in a very fitting fashion as it started with the first two parts. If they wanted to be REALLY clever, they would have thrown in "Discovery/Presentation" somewhere in the middle of the show!". And the encore remains to be "La Villa Strangiato" as leftover from the previous tour.

Overall, it's a good tour, but not as great as the previous two. We do get 6/7 new songs from the new album, including the their 'last epic' in "The Camera Eye", and we're treated to truncated versions of songs, snippets, but it seems like they really tried to squeeze in a lot but shortening things. The previous tour had 20 songs/tracks on it, but this one has 26. It was here that the band started rotating out their epics in favor of shorter songs, and with longer sets, they were able to fit in more songs as the years would go on.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Moving Pictures Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 28, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
Still the best set list ever! :tup :tup

But imagine if they had been doing "Evening With..." shows back then.  Imagine this set list:

Set 1
Hemispheres Prelude
Freewill
Limelight
Beneath, Between and Behind
The Camera Eye
Jacob's Ladder
Tom Sawyer
Closer to the Heart
Broon's Bane
The Trees
Xanadu

Set 2
The Spirit of Radio
Anthem
Red Barchetta
Vital Signs
Natural Science
YYZ
Drum Solo
YYZ (ending)
Cygnus X-1
Working Man (snippet)
By-Tor and the Snow Dog (first half)
In the End (snippet)
In the Mood (snippet)
La Villa Strangiato

Encore
2112
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Moving Pictures Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 28, 2013, 07:50:20 PM
Still the best set list ever! :tup :tup

But imagine if they had been doing "Evening With..." shows back then.  Imagine this set list:

Set 1
Hemispheres Prelude
Freewill
Limelight
Beneath, Between and Behind
The Camera Eye
Jacob's Ladder
Tom Sawyer
Closer to the Heart
Broon's Bane
The Trees
Xanadu

Set 2
The Spirit of Radio
Anthem
Red Barchetta
Vital Signs
Natural Science
YYZ
Drum Solo
YYZ (ending)
Cygnus X-1
Working Man (snippet)
By-Tor and the Snow Dog (first half)
In the End (snippet)
In the Mood (snippet)
La Villa Strangiato

Encore
2112

Had they been playing 2.5-3 hour shows back in 1981, you can bet they'd throw in all or most of their epics (probably abbreviated) - 2112, Cygnus X-1, Hemispheres, Xanadu, By-Tor & The Snow Dog, and more of Working Man, as well as Natural Science and The Camera Eye.

Also, all of Moving Pictures would've been played, as well as most of Permanent Waves (with Entre Nous and Different Strings being the ones out).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Moving Pictures Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 28, 2013, 09:37:21 PM
Witch Hunt wasn't played until the P/G tour cause they couldn't play it live until advances in midi and keyboards made it possible - they said so in the Visions book, I believe - so it wouldn't have gotten played on the MP tour no matter what.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Moving Pictures Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 28, 2013, 11:57:14 PM
Witch Hunt wasn't played until the P/G tour cause they couldn't play it live until advances in midi and keyboards made it possible - they said so in the Visions book, I believe - so it wouldn't have gotten played on the MP tour no matter what.

Well I know that, but it would've been neat to at least hear them try to attempt it with the stuff they had back then. They also began the practice of writing a song that would be more of a 'production piece', one song that wouldn't get to be played live when ti came time to tour on their latest album. And for awhile, they did do that, songs like "Different Strings", "Witch Hunt", "Losing It", "Emotion Detector" and possibly a couple more in the following albums (although song exclusions may have been due to having a large back catalog to choose from).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Moving Pictures Tour
Post by: ytserush on May 29, 2013, 07:14:45 PM
The Moving Pictures Tour started 12 days after the album's release, from February 19th, 1981 to July 5th. They only toured North America during these five months, but they would hit Europe on the next tour in support of their 2nd live album, Exit...Stage Left.

They toured with fewer opening bands, at least that I am aware of. According to Eric at the Power Windows website, they opened with FM, Max Webster, and Ian Hunter.

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Linked just below is the well-known Chicago audience bootleg from this tour, which has gone through many versions, but this is the "Definitive Edition" of the show. It's one of the fairly good and complete audience bootlegs from this tour, and any early tour for that matter.

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1981-03-01.rar

Rush - Moving Pictures Tour - 114:47
(Live In Montreal, QC on 3/24/81)
(Exit...Stage Left Album/Video Source)

Disc 1 - 61:02
 1. 2112 Overture^       4:31
 2. The Temples of Syrinx^    2:11
 3. Freewill          5:36
 4. Limelight          4:32
 5. Hemispheres: I. Prelude*    4:21
 6. Beneath, Between And Behind* 2:51
 7. The Camera Eye*      10:57
 8. YYZ             2:21
 9. Drum Solo          3:12
10. YYZ (Continued)       2:05
11. Broon's Bane       1:37
12. The Trees          4:33
13. Xanadu         12:15

Disc 2 - 54:05
14. The Spirit Of Radio       5:03
15. Red Barchetta       6:37
16. Closer To The Heart       3:28
17. Tom Sawyer          4:44
18. Vital Signs          5:19
19. Natural Science*       7:58
20. Working Man*       1:17
21. Hemispheres: IV. Armageddon* 0:54
22. By-Tor & The Snow Dog    4:05
23. In the End          1:42
24. In The Mood          1:33
25. 2112: VII. Grand Finale    2:09
26. La Villa Strangiato       9:16

^ - Live In Edmonton, AB on 6/25/81
    2112 Deluxe Edition Bonus Tracks
* - Live In Chicago, IL on 3/1/81
    The Definitive Edition - AUD
New Peak Amp for both sources = -3.0

28:18 - Non-SB Sourced

Like with the PEW Tour show I did, I knew I needed to start with the ESL CD for the MP Tour tracks, and then I added the ESL Video tracks, and that gave me a good chunk of the show in great quality! The rest of the tracks I pulled from the Chicago show, which include the 18-minute chunk of "Hemispheres: Prelude", "Beneath, Between And Behind", "The Camera Eye" in the first half, and the 10 minute chunk of "Natural Science", "Working Man" snippet and "By-Tor" in the second half.

Originally, I used the Chicago show for the opening "2112" bit, but then the 2112 Deluxe Edition was released and they added tracks from the Moving Pictures Tour on to it, so it was a perfect excuse to add them to the beginning to give the show a more soundboard-quality sound. And so, with less than 23% of this compilation in audience-quality, I was greatly satisfied!

As for the show itself, those with the ESL CD and Video will know how great those tracks are. Obviously, I can't get enough of the "Broon's Bane/The Trees/Xanadu" chunk of songs, one of my favorite runs of songs on this tour. And then there's the outro-medley that starts with "Working Man" (now degraded down to a minute-long snippet), segueing into an odd section of "Hemispheres", then going in to a chunk of "By-Tor" (no longer preceding "Xanadu"). The main show ends with "2112: VII. Grand Finale", in a very fitting fashion as it started with the first two parts. If they wanted to be REALLY clever, they would have thrown in "Discovery/Presentation" somewhere in the middle of the show!". And the encore remains to be "La Villa Strangiato" as leftover from the previous tour.

Overall, it's a good tour, but not as great as the previous two. We do get 6/7 new songs from the new album, including the their 'last epic' in "The Camera Eye", and we're treated to truncated versions of songs, snippets, but it seems like they really tried to squeeze in a lot but shortening things. The previous tour had 20 songs/tracks on it, but this one has 26. It was here that the band started rotating out their epics in favor of shorter songs, and with longer sets, they were able to fit in more songs as the years would go on.

-Marc.

Before this was the pre-Moving Pictures tour that primarily was a September 1980 affiair where pre-release versions of the usual suspects...Limelight and Tom Sawyer where heard live for the first time.  The Allentown Fairgrounds stop on this tour is probably a good representation of this.



Some other great sounding shows from the Moving Pictures Tour are the run of shows at Maple Leaf Gardens, the Madison Square Garden show on May 18, and the show in Anaheim.

Oddly when I first became a fan the first shows I bought  (other than a really bad video with the Don Kirschner videos, the A Farewell To Kings and the Hemispheres videos on it) were vinyl copies of the 1974 Cleveland show and two 1986 shows from Minnesota and Quebec.  I was really curious to find a show from Moving Pictures and few months later I found a the LP set of the Chicago show. It was very cool hearing songs from that tour I'd never heard before and they reggae improv was nice, but I wasn't blown away like I thought I would be. I don't know if there were too many radio hits or what it was.

There are some great songs in the set. Vital Signs? Check. Natural Science? Check. The Camera Eye? Check. Red Barchetta? Check? Iconic Neil solo? Check.  Something's different.

Maybe too much of a focus on trying to play the set the exact same way every night? Maybe it's because I can't seem to think of one recording I've heard that's "in your face" like those recently released Edmonton tracks are. (If there's a complete show of that, I might just change my opinion about the Moving Pictures set)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: The Letter M on June 08, 2013, 10:14:07 AM
The New World Tour (named after their big hit, "New World Man") began in Wisconsin on September 3, 1982 and ended on May 25, 1983 in the UK, with a special show in July and about 2 months off between mid-December and mid-February, but it was still was a fairly long tour.

Opening acts for this tour included Jon Butcher Axis, Golden Earring, The Payolas, Wrabit, Rory Gallagher, and Nazareth.

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This is the first time the "Three Stooges Theme" was used to open the shows; it would be used until the Presto tour and then return for one final time for Vapor Trails tour. As demonstrated in numerous recordings, Rush had fun this tour, often changing the lyrics to some of the older songs such as "The Spirit of Baseball" and "The Plumbers of Syrinx" (with Lerxst adding additional vocals). For this tour, "The Camera Eye" was abbreviated such that only the "New York" or "London" section would be performed each night on a seemingly random basis.

Although the setlist remained the same throughout most of this tour, "Chemistry" and "The Camera Eye" were dropped from the setlist in Germany, and although "The Camera Eye" was brought back for later dates, "Chemistry" did not return and has not been played since.

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Linked just below is the well-known New York audience bootleg, taking from the show at Uniondale, this is one of the few complete shows of the tour. For its time, it's got fairly good quality but the plus is that it IS a complete show, and you get QUITE a set list with these song choices!

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1982-12-09.rar

Rush - Signals Tour - 115:07
(Live In Uniondale, NY on 12/9/82)
(Music In The Abstract - AUD)

Disc 1 - 55:17
1. Three Stooges Intro    0:49
2. The Spirit Of Radio      4:44
3. Tom Sawyer         5:08
4. Freewill            5:38
5. Digital Man                 6:59
6. Subdivisions         5:41
7. Vital Signs                 5:14
8. The Camera Eye         7:24
9. Closer To The Heart      3:19
10. Chemistry           5:14
11. The Analog Kid         5:07

Disc 2 - 59:50
1. Broon's Bane       1:43
2. The Trees          4:33
3. Red Barchetta         6:31
4. The Weapon         7:51
5. New World Man         4:02
6. Limelight            4:24
7. Countdown         6:17
8. 2112                   6:31
9. Xanadu            2:33
10. La Villa Strangiato      3:35
11. In The Mood         2:39
12. YYZ             2:27
13. Drum Solo          6:44

For the Signals tour, I decided to use this whole show, the 2nd night at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, since as of last year, no full (or near-full) soundboards exist of this tour! Hard to believe, but I just don't know of any soundboards of this tour, but at least we have a handful of good audience shows.

As for the set list, we're treated to 7/8 songs from Signals, 6/7 songs from Moving Pictures, and 2 songs each from Permanent Waves, Hemispheres, and A Farewell To Kings. Of course, "2112" makes an appearance in the form of "Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx" (another carry-over from the MP Tour), as well as the ever-present "In The Mood" in the encore. "Broon's Bane" returns, seguing in to "The Trees", but instead of "Xanadu" they go in to "Red Barchetta", quite brilliantly in my opinion! The outro for "The Trees" is seamless as they go in to the next song. "Xanadu", however, is moved to the end-of-the-show medley.

The closing medley is quite interesting, being a new group of "oldies" to close the main set. It now does not include "Working Man" and instead opens with 2112's first two movements. As "The Temples Of Syrinx" ends, they do not play the last chord and instead Neil does the drum fill in to "Xanadu", which plays for about two and a half minutes. After that, they go in to the "A Lerxst In Wonderland" section of "La Villa Strangiato", a portion of which would be played on later tours for medleys, and in those instances, it would be followed by "In The Mood" (on the HYF and Presto tours).

For this tour, the drum solo remains in the middle of "YYZ", but now returns to the encore as the song closes the show (for the first time, but definitely not for the last). Because over half of the set (13/21) are songs from their then-new album and their previous album, there wasn't much from for epics or classics prior to MP. They had hit a big-time and their new album even had their only no. 1 hit in "New World Man". With two fairly popular albums out, it was logical to play most of those songs. "Witch Hunt" still had not appeared (and it wouldn't until the next major tour), and "Losing It" seemed to be their "studio piece" for Signals.

As for the show itself, you can't expect gold with an audience bootleg, but if you get past the hiss, and take this show for what it is, it's a fairly good show! From the DRE, the average rating is 7.21. Check out fellow reviews of this whole show here - https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1456

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: jammindude on June 08, 2013, 12:07:02 PM
Ok...I have never in my life downloaded a rar file before.  But this tour and setlist just looks like an absolute GEM to my eyes, so I would love to grab it.  Do I need to do something special to open this file?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: Big Hath on June 08, 2013, 12:15:36 PM
it's a version of a zipped folder/archive.  you may have something on your pc already that will open it, but if not just get 7-zip

https://www.7-zip.org/
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: ytserush on June 09, 2013, 10:44:13 AM
Before I jump into the Signals tour, honorable mention should probably go to a few shows from the Exit...Stage Left Tour and the First Tour of the Nadars which came before it.

There are a lot of pretty good shows from the European leg of this tour out there and most of them are pretty good especially some of the German shows, but probably the gem of the entire tour is the Hartford show from December 1981 which many believe to be a soundboard featuring a pre-release version fo Subdivisions without the guitar solo not quite worked out.

There are also a handful of April 1982 shows, Lakeland probably being the best of these that feature pre-release Subdivisions again and The Analog Kid.


While it's true that there are no known soundboards from this tour, there are a number of great sounding complete shows like the Nassau Coliseum show above.

Two of the better ones are from Rotterdam and London in May 1983 ("One likes to believe in the spirit of baseball" and "We are the plumbers who fix your sinks" are great to hear.)

This tour also represents the first major shift away from songs of the 1970s which left many longtime fans disgruntled --  possibly even to this day. There also seems to be renewed vigor from the band as they were now playing a majorly revamped set for the first time ever

Interestingly, this is the first known Rush audience video. From here on out the video footage multiplies fairly consistently with each passing tour.

From Montreal 4/9/1983:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrkDrgYR7oo&list=PLihRWH5CDny1tFthcjJaLJCw9cAd81oGT
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: The Letter M on June 09, 2013, 10:56:50 PM
There are also a handful of April 1982 shows, Lakeland probably being the best of these that feature pre-release Subdivisions again and The Analog Kid.

The Live At Lakeland boot is one of the first ones I remember getting. Good set list, and good sound quality too. Definitely a good one to have if you're a semi-serious Rush ROIO collector!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: jammindude on June 10, 2013, 08:27:22 PM
it's a version of a zipped folder/archive.  you may have something on your pc already that will open it, but if not just get 7-zip

https://www.7-zip.org/

Thank you, that worked great!  :tup

Now I just have to find a program that will play shn files and let me burn them to CD.  :tdwn

Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: The Letter M on June 10, 2013, 08:41:10 PM
it's a version of a zipped folder/archive.  you may have something on your pc already that will open it, but if not just get 7-zip

https://www.7-zip.org/

Thank you, that worked great!  :tup

Now I just have to find a program that will play shn files and let me burn them to CD.  :tdwn

You can convert shn files into wav with Trader's Little Helper. Then you can burn the wavs on to a CD-r.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: jammindude on June 10, 2013, 09:11:28 PM
Thank you guys....seriously.   Just burned it.   

You would think at 43 years old and being the hardcore DT and Rush fan that I am that I would do this more often...but I haven't. 

I have a CP boot that I obtained from a friend years ago...and I think I downloaded the Arizona Hemispheres tour from an MP3 source when it was posted on a site *years* ago.  (now that I have the programs to do so, I should probably find a higher quality source)...and then I have quite a few physical copies of DT boots that I've received from friends.     I guess I've just never gotten around to doing it this way. 

Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: sueño on June 10, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
I gotta figure out how to do stuff like that.    :|
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: ytserush on June 13, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
There are also a handful of April 1982 shows, Lakeland probably being the best of these that feature pre-release Subdivisions again and The Analog Kid.

The Live At Lakeland boot is one of the first ones I remember getting. Good set list, and good sound quality too. Definitely a good one to have if you're a semi-serious Rush ROIO collector!

-Marc.

My primary reason for listening to Lakeland are those early versions of Subdivisions and The Analog Kid.

My favorite Signals shows are probably 11/8/1982 Detroit, 5/3/1983 Rotterdam and the 5/21/1983 London.



I used to be a fairly heavy collector until about 10 years ago. I'm not as active as I once was, but I'm always interested in good/unique performances as long as they aren't in any lossy formats.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: The Letter M on June 15, 2013, 10:39:56 AM
Just gonna put this out there - if anyone wants a particular show of mine that I have done a compilation of (i.e. isn't already a stand-alone bootleg of it's own, like the Hemispheres of Signals shows I've posted about), let me know and I can see if we can work out a deal. I wouldn't mind sharing files or even sending burned CD-r's! Anything to spread the Rush Live Love!

There are also a handful of April 1982 shows, Lakeland probably being the best of these that feature pre-release Subdivisions again and The Analog Kid.

The Live At Lakeland boot is one of the first ones I remember getting. Good set list, and good sound quality too. Definitely a good one to have if you're a semi-serious Rush ROIO collector!

-Marc.

My primary reason for listening to Lakeland are those early versions of Subdivisions and The Analog Kid.

My favorite Signals shows are probably 11/8/1982 Detroit, 5/3/1983 Rotterdam and the 5/21/1983 London.



I used to be a fairly heavy collector until about 10 years ago. I'm not as active as I once was, but I'm always interested in good/unique performances as long as they aren't in any lossy formats.

True, I believe that was also the only reason I got the Lakeland shows - for the early versions of those songs. The early versions of songs always intrigue me but I rarely ever listen to them. When I was making my complete live shows sets last summer/fall, I had thought about compiling the best sounding Early Versions of songs from their tours, starting with "Xanadu" on the ATWAS tour and going up through the 80's when they stopped touring/testing early versions of songs. It's hard to find good sounding versions of these songs, though. I may revisit the idea this summer, though, if I can get a hold of some of the tracks I didn't have before.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The New World Tour (Signals)
Post by: jammindude on June 16, 2013, 07:30:33 PM
Bring on the guppy tour!!!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 19, 2013, 08:11:44 PM
The Grace Under Pressure Tour began on May 7th in 1984, nearly a month after GUP had been released (unusual for the band to tour so long after an album's release), and went to November 25th of that year, with a two-month break between July and September. This time, they had Fastway, Gary Moore, Helix, Red Rider, Y&T, and Strict-Neine opening for them as their shows started getting a bit longer and a bit more involved.

This tour has been documented with a live video release (and eventual accompanying CD). It was on this tour they started doing even more video and light shows with their songs.

Quote
This is one of only two tours in which "Limelight" was not included in the set, either full time or as an alternate/replacement (the other being the Presto tour). Highlights of this tour include the then-complete performance of "Fear" performed in sequence, which included the first performances of "Witch Hunt". For the first leg of the tour, "Afterimage" followed "Closer to the Heart", and the Drum Solo was a medley with "Red Lenses". After the summer break "Kid Gloves" replaced "Afterimage", and the extended jam section was added to "Closer to the Heart". Beginning Oct. 18, the Drum Solo found its way back to "YYZ" as on previous tours, and a new bass intro and full bass solo were added to "Red Lenses". "Kid Gloves" was dropped from the setlist in Japan. For most of the tour a short Get Smart video was shown as the introduction to "New World Man", although during early dates it was shown as the introduction to "Vital Signs".

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Linked below is a pretty good, but incomplete soundboard bootleg from this tour. Recorded in Maryland on the 2nd half of the tour, it features most of the show up to "Tom Sawyer". It's a good companion to the official GUP show that has been released and features "Kid Gloves" and "The Body Electric".
"Bottle Of Booze" Largo, MD on 9/27/84 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1463)
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1984-09-27.rar

Rush - GUP Tour - 103:10
(Live In Toronto, CA on 9/21/84))
(Grace Under Pressure Tour Official)

Disc 1 - 49:07
 1. Three Stooges Intro       0:57
 2. The Spirit Of Radio     4:54
 3. Subdivisions*        5:18
 4. The Body Electric*        5:10
 5. The Enemy Within        4:35
 6. The Weapon           7:42
 7. Witch Hunt           4:40
 8. New World Man        4:01
 9. Between The Wheels*     5:33
10. Red Barchetta*        6:17

Disc 2 - 54:03
 1. Distant Early Warning     6:57
 2. Red Sector A        5:15
 3. Closer To The Heart     3:37
 4. Kid Gloves*          4:07
 5. Afterimage^          4:56
 6. YYZ           3:12
 7. The Temples Of Syrinx    1:49
 8. Tom Sawyer           4:51
 9. Red Lenses^          3:12
10. Drum Solo^          5:23
11. Red Lenses^          2:13
12. Vital Signs          4:56
13. Finding My Way        1:12
14. In The Mood        2:25


*Bottle of Booze - SBD
 Live In Largo, MD on 9/27/84
^Experience To Extremes - AUD
 Live In Milwaukee, WI on 6/25/84

15:44 - Non-SB Sourced

Like previous tours with official releases, I used the GUP Tour show as the basis for my representation of this tour. The bulk of the show was released, but was missing some key songs, especially "The Body Electric", "Between The Wheels", "Kid Gloves", "Afterimage", and "Red Lenses" from GUP itself.

To fill in the gaps, I used what I could from the Largo, MD bootleg, then the rest from a well-known audience show from Milwaukee, which features one of the best recordings of "Afterimage", as well as the "Red Lenses/Drum Solo" medley, featuring Neil's first electronic drum soloing on stage.

This was their first tour in awhile (since The Tour Of The Hemispheres) where all of their new album's songs were played live on tour. Granted, "Afterimage" and "Kid Gloves" swapped half-way through the tour, so you only got one or the other, and at most, 7 GUP songs on any given night, but the fact that they played both for half the tour shows that the band really enjoyed the songs back then!

Fans with the official GUP Tour show should be familiar enough with it, but the Largo, MD show is pretty good for a soundboard bootleg in '84. As far as I know, though, no known soundboards exist with the "Red Lenses/Drum Solo" medley, and I may not be remembering right, but I don't think there are any with Geddy's bass solo in the middle of "Red Lenses".

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: jammindude on June 19, 2013, 08:27:07 PM
I was surprised when the Count Floyd intro to The Weapon first appeared on the Signals tour....but for the record, I like the audience reaction FAR more on the Soundtrack CD for GUP.    I also like how Count Floyd cued "those synthesizers"...very nice touch.   (although I suppose that these both could have been studio fixes...I still think they make a better "live" performance than on the Signals tour)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: ytserush on June 19, 2013, 10:04:45 PM
The Grace Under Pressure Tour began on May 7th in 1984, nearly a month after GUP had been released (unusual for the band to tour so long after an album's release), and went to November 25th of that year, with a two-month break between July and September. This time, they had Fastway, Gary Moore, Helix, Red Rider, Y&T, and Strict-Neine opening for them as their shows started getting a bit longer and a bit more involved.

This tour has been documented with a live video release (and eventual accompanying CD). It was on this tour they started doing even more video and light shows with their songs.

Quote
This is one of only two tours in which "Limelight" was not included in the set, either full time or as an alternate/replacement (the other being the Presto tour). Highlights of this tour include the then-complete performance of "Fear" performed in sequence, which included the first performances of "Witch Hunt". For the first leg of the tour, "Afterimage" followed "Closer to the Heart", and the Drum Solo was a medley with "Red Lenses". After the summer break "Kid Gloves" replaced "Afterimage", and the extended jam section was added to "Closer to the Heart". Beginning Oct. 18, the Drum Solo found its way back to "YYZ" as on previous tours, and a new bass intro and full bass solo were added to "Red Lenses". "Kid Gloves" was dropped from the setlist in Japan. For most of the tour a short Get Smart video was shown as the introduction to "New World Man", although during early dates it was shown as the introduction to "Vital Signs".

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Linked below is a pretty good, but incomplete soundboard bootleg from this tour. Recorded in Maryland on the 2nd half of the tour, it features most of the show up to "Tom Sawyer". It's a good companion to the official GUP show that has been released and features "Kid Gloves" and "The Body Electric".
"Bottle Of Booze" Largo, MD on 9/27/84 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1463)
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1984-09-27.rar

Rush - GUP Tour - 103:10
(Live In Toronto, CA on 9/21/84))
(Grace Under Pressure Tour Official)

Disc 1 - 49:07
 1. Three Stooges Intro       0:57
 2. The Spirit Of Radio     4:54
 3. Subdivisions*        5:18
 4. The Body Electric*        5:10
 5. The Enemy Within        4:35
 6. The Weapon           7:42
 7. Witch Hunt           4:40
 8. New World Man        4:01
 9. Between The Wheels*     5:33
10. Red Barchetta*        6:17

Disc 2 - 54:03
 1. Distant Early Warning     6:57
 2. Red Sector A        5:15
 3. Closer To The Heart     3:37
 4. Kid Gloves*          4:07
 5. Afterimage^          4:56
 6. YYZ           3:12
 7. The Temples Of Syrinx    1:49
 8. Tom Sawyer           4:51
 9. Red Lenses^          3:12
10. Drum Solo^          5:23
11. Red Lenses^          2:13
12. Vital Signs          4:56
13. Finding My Way        1:12
14. In The Mood        2:25


*Bottle of Booze - SBD
 Live In Largo, MD on 9/27/84
^Experience To Extremes - AUD
 Live In Milwaukee, WI on 6/25/84

15:44 - Non-SB Sourced

Like previous tours with official releases, I used the GUP Tour show as the basis for my representation of this tour. The bulk of the show was released, but was missing some key songs, especially "The Body Electric", "Between The Wheels", "Kid Gloves", "Afterimage", and "Red Lenses" from GUP itself.

To fill in the gaps, I used what I could from the Largo, MD bootleg, then the rest from a well-known audience show from Milwaukee, which features one of the best recordings of "Afterimage", as well as the "Red Lenses/Drum Solo" medley, featuring Neil's first electronic drum soloing on stage.

This was their first tour in awhile (since The Tour Of The Hemispheres) where all of their new album's songs were played live on tour. Granted, "Afterimage" and "Kid Gloves" swapped half-way through the tour, so you only got one or the other, and at most, 7 GUP songs on any given night, but the fact that they played both for half the tour shows that the band really enjoyed the songs back then!

Fans with the official GUP Tour show should be familiar enough with it, but the Largo, MD show is pretty good for a soundboard bootleg in '84. As far as I know, though, no known soundboards exist with the "Red Lenses/Drum Solo" medley, and I may not be remembering right, but I don't think there are any with Geddy's bass solo in the middle of "Red Lenses".

-Marc.

Before I jump into this tour there was the five night stand at Radio City in September 1983 (with Marillion opening and being subsequently booed off stage).
The band wanted a distraction away from the studio and their problems with getting a producer to commit the their new album after they let Terry Brown go. Roger Kneebend almost got the job.

If I recall four of the five nights have surfaced and two of them sound particularly good. Of course one highlight of these shows were primitive versions of Red Sector A and The Body Electric. There may be a video from one of these nights, but I have never seen it.


OK...Grace Under Pressure Tour.

 If long time fans were pissed about Signals not featuring the '70s enough. This tour just made them angrier.  All but The Spirit Of Radio, Closer to The Heart, The Temples Of Syrinx and Finding My Way/In The Mood were from the last three albums.

That said, this was one of my favorite tours and the new vigor that began on the Signals Tour continues here. The band was moving forward (even if some fans weren't.) Rush also played Japan and Hawaii for the first and last time.

The Toronto show probably holds the record for most bootleged. The show has also been mislabeled numerous times perhaps trying to fool people that this was a new show (All you had to do was check the set to determine it wasn't) by claiming the show was from 1986 (when it was first broadcast) 1989 and 1992. This show must be out there more than 20 times in various incarnations and formats especially from the late '80s to the mid '90s.

Three three show mentioned above are certainly the cream of the crop but there are some others that are just as good although they aren't Soundboards.

Reno, ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9aTzrgccqI ) San Francisco and Japan are three that are particularly good audios. There are several others out there, but they are hard to come by.

Two videos are available from this tour


Here's Montreal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdIG6ZYbUyQ

Here's Japan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0a39DvlHI&list=PL76EBB9456A5340FF



Wow, I didn't realize how much of this crap is on you tube....Maybe I can find something I don't have there.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: Lupton on June 24, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
Sorry total newbie here and I apologize for butting in like this. I've been following this thread since the Tour of the Spheres. Many thanks to Nick for hosting these show!   :hefdaddy

So...I pulled down the GUP show only to find that it is actually really a superb soundboard recording from the Power Windows tour (4/16/86) .  So it looks like we got an album ahead. All good end results though....as I've normally just lurked and read on these forums, noticing this caused me to register and post here for the 1st time just so I could point this out. Any chance of hearing a show from the GUP tour? (I've always wanted to hear Kid Gloves live)

Anyway. Great thread and again many thanks to Nick for the shows. Soundboard recordings of Rush on ANY tour are a great thing to have!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 02, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
Sorry total newbie here and I apologize for butting in like this. I've been following this thread since the Tour of the Spheres. Many thanks to Nick for hosting these show!   :hefdaddy

So...I pulled down the GUP show only to find that it is actually really a superb soundboard recording from the Power Windows tour (4/16/86) .  So it looks like we got an album ahead. All good end results though....as I've normally just lurked and read on these forums, noticing this caused me to register and post here for the 1st time just so I could point this out. Any chance of hearing a show from the GUP tour? (I've always wanted to hear Kid Gloves live)

Anyway. Great thread and again many thanks to Nick for the shows. Soundboard recordings of Rush on ANY tour are a great thing to have!

Welcome aboard. That would be the Philly show that ends during YYZ if I recall (about 80 minutes.) It's the only Power Windows soundboard and we'll probably get to it soon.


As for Grace Under Pressure:
You should check out the link to the Montreal video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdIG6ZYbUyQ


And Reno, ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9aTzrgccqI )

I believe they dropped Kid Gloves by the time they got to Japan.

All of those are full shows though.



You can also hear Kid Gloves live before it was even recorded when the band did their Radio City five-gig run in September of 1983. It's possible I left the link for that up there somewhere.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: Lupton on July 03, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
Thanks for the welcome ysterush!  :smiley:

These shows have been a lot of fun. It's interesting to see how the Drum Solo developed over the years.  Also...being able to witness cool moments...like the segue from the end of Trees to Red Barchetta on the Signals show   

I'll be sure to go back and check out some of those links.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 03, 2013, 08:26:24 PM
The Power Windows Tour begin December 4, 1985, over a MONTH from the album's release date, and went all the way til May 26, 1986 with no huge breaks. On this tour, they had some prog and prog-related acts opening for them, including Steve Morse and Marillion, as well as others like FM, Fabulous Thunderbirds, and returning favorite Blue Oyster Cult.

More from Eric at the Power Windows website!

Quote
Beginning with this tour, Rush began its practice which continued through the Test For Echo tour of "fine tuning" the setlist during the first few dates of the tour: "The Weapon" followed "Territories" and was only played the first two nights of the tour; "Witch Hunt" was added the second night following "The Weapon", which was permanently dropped as of the third night. The sixth night of the tour, "Witch Hunt" would move up in the setlist to follow "Middletown Dreams", possibly due to their common use of electronic drums. Additionally, "New World Man" was apparently dropped from the last month of the tour; its last known performance was April 22, '86, and it would not be performed again until the Vapor Trails tour.

Intro (Three Stooges theme)
The Spirit of Radio
Limelight
The Big Money
New World Man (dropped sometime after 4/22/86)
Subdivisions
Manhattan Project
Middletown Dreams
Witch Hunt (not played opening night, added 12/5/85 following Territories & The Weapon, would move to follow Middletown Dreams beginning 12/12/85)
Red Sector A
Closer To The Heart
Marathon
The Trees
Mystic Rhythms
Distant Early Warning
Territories
(The Weapon, only played first two nights)
YYZ
Drum Solo
Red Lenses
Tom Sawyer
Encore: 2112 (Overture/Temples of Syrinx)
Grand Designs
In The Mood

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Linked below is the arguably the best Power Windows Tour soundboard in existence, and while it is not a COMPLETE show, it is definitely the best SOUNDING.
"Visions & Illusions Ver. 2.02" Philadelphia, PA on 4/16/86 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1826) <- link to the DRE Page for this show with reviews and ratings.
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1986-04-16.rar

Rush - Power Windows Tour - 116:18
(Live In Philadelphia, PA on 4/16/86)
(Visions & Illusions Ver 2.02 - SBD)

Disc 1 - 60:53
 1. Three Stooges Intro      0:49
 2. The Spirit Of Radio      5:06
 3. Limelight            5:07
 4. The Big Money         5:57
 5. New World Man         4:14
 6. Subdivisions         5:51
 7. Manhattan Project         5:38
 8. Middletown Dreams         5:08
 9. Witch Hunt         5:11
10. Red Sector A^         5:16
11. Closer To The Heart      5:59
12. Marathon            6:38

Disc 2 - 55:58
 1. The Trees            5:03
 2. Mystic Rhythms         5:27
 3. Distant Early Warning      7:08
 4. Territories         6:26
 5. YYZ            3:22
 6. The Rhythm Method*       6:01
 7. Red Lenses*          2:19
 8. Tom Sawyer*          5:47
 9. 2112*          6:26
10. Grand Designs*       5:03
11. In The Mood*        2:56

*End-of-show tracks sourced from:
(Mid-American Dreams PE - AUD)
(Milwaukee, WI on 3/24/86)

^RSA has :29 cut in the middle
 Filled in with above source

Notes about my mix of these shows to represent this tour. The bulk of the show is probably the most well-known bootleg of the Power Windows tour, and any fan of these songs and this era should not live without it! It's a crisp and clean sounding soundboard, albeit an incomplete show. We get up through most of the drum solo, and a bit of "Red Sector A" missing, but other than that, it's the rest of the show! To help fill in those gaps, I used one of the next best shows out there, an audience recording from Milwaukee (a town that happens to have a LOT of good tapers, apparently!), which does a good job of filling in the rest of the show and encore.

The show starts off once again with the "Three Stooges" intro, then launching into 2 classic hits before moving into their first new song, the opener from their new album. Throughout the show, the band performs a whopping SEVEN songs during the set (with one in the encore, a feat rarely done from Rush!), which is as many new songs a night they did on the prior tour (although they swapped out a song mid-tour, meaning they actually played all EIGHT songs from the album). The only (and still unplayed) song is "Emotion Detector", sitting in the same spot on the album that "Losing It" did for Signals, another song that has yet to be played live.

The Power Windows songs are fantastic on their debut tour, especially tracks like "Manhattan Project" and "Marathon", but they would return in future tours, so the real gems here are "Middletown Dreams" and "Grand Designs". The rest of the set consists of 3 GUP songs, 2 Signals songs, 4 MP songs, 1 PEW song, and only 4 songs from Hemisphere back (a trend that would continue for a few more tours). Obviously, the previous 3 albums get a LOT of returning songs, so the phasing out of hits like "Working Man", "Fly By Night", "Xanadu", "Hemispheres" and "La Villa Strangiato" alienated old school fans. I can only imagine what going to these shows was like, seeing fans who expected hits from the 70's Rush albums and getting about 80% 80's Rush.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 10, 2013, 10:48:42 PM
Well before going into the Power Windows tour there was the 2nd and final Tour Of the Nadars, which was a very short trek to Florida in March 1985 which likely saitisfied Geddy's need to be at Spring Training.  I can't remember which gig I have from this tour, but the tour featured early versions of The Big Money and Middletown Dreams. It was also the last tour that the band previewed any songs that had not been recorded first. It's also the last time that The Enemy Within and The Weapon were ever performed live (Which also happened to be the last time The Fear Trilogy was played live too.)


Okay, Power Windows Tour....Certainly the shows mentioned above are among the best and most widely circulated there is.

There are a few others of the dozen or so Power Windows shows that I have. Probably the best of these is the May 24, 1986 Sacremento show. I think it sounds a bit better than the Milwaukee show.


Interestingly there are vinyl boots from Quebec and Minnesota.

There are also videos from Nassau Coliseum, Saint Paul and Quebec. It appears only Quebec has made it to you tube.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCdLdV4Z-Ps&list=PL1747097D23F117E3

Never really liked the sound of The Big Money on this tour. The keyboards don't sound right to me.

This is also the first tour were Geddy and Alex start to get trapped by technology and not really free as much to prowl the stage like we've been used to in recent years. It would become even worse on the next tour of course.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: jammindude on July 11, 2013, 05:32:16 AM
The Seattle show of this tour was my *very first* Rush concert ever.  I was 16 years old.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 13, 2013, 01:46:24 PM
The Seattle show of this tour was my *very first* Rush concert ever.  I was 16 years old.

My first two shows were March 31 and April 1 1986 with Marillion opening with Misplaced Childhood.


There is a recording of the Seattle show that is supposed to be pretty good, but I don't have it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: jammindude on July 13, 2013, 02:29:20 PM
The Seattle show of this tour was my *very first* Rush concert ever.  I was 16 years old.

My first two shows were March 31 and April 1 1986 with Marillion opening with Misplaced Childhood.


There is a recording of the Seattle show that is supposed to be pretty good, but I don't have it.

If there is a boot circulating, it would be very sentimental to me if someone would hook a brotha up....   I had no idea *that show* was on the circuit.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on July 13, 2013, 02:46:15 PM
The tour I met Geddy on.  opening night of the PW's tour.  Also the second leg as ytse posted above with  Marillion playing all of  Misplaced Childhood.  Epic, just epic.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 29, 2013, 07:10:45 PM
The tour I met Geddy on.  opening night of the PW's tour.  Also the second leg as ytse posted above with  Marillion playing all of  Misplaced Childhood.  Epic, just epic.

Few shows get much more epic than that..
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 30, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
The tour I met Geddy on.  opening night of the PW's tour.  Also the second leg as ytse posted above with  Marillion playing all of  Misplaced Childhood.  Epic, just epic.

Few shows get much more epic than that..

That does sound pretty damn epic! :tup

Also, thanks for bumping this thread again. It seems I have (once again) forgotten about it, but this week I will move on with the HYF Tour!!! Which, IMO, is one of the better 80's set lists. Good choices between POW and HYF songs, as well as a few more classics. Also, one of the few tours to have a near-complete soundboard(-quality) show in the form of the Birmingham show used for the A Show Of Hands video!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: sirbradford117 on July 30, 2013, 05:23:22 AM
Marc, did you ever post a link to the GUP show?  Earlier in the thread, that link took me to the POW show download instead.  I may have missed the corrected link...
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 30, 2013, 10:01:28 AM
I checked the link and it's the right format, but the uploads were by Nick, so you would have to ask him to fix it. He may have uploaded the show wrong if the link posted was for the GUP show but the actual file was the POW show.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 30, 2013, 04:34:26 PM
The tour I met Geddy on.  opening night of the PW's tour.  Also the second leg as ytse posted above with  Marillion playing all of  Misplaced Childhood.  Epic, just epic.

Few shows get much more epic than that..

That does sound pretty damn epic! :tup

Also, thanks for bumping this thread again. It seems I have (once again) forgotten about it, but this week I will move on with the HYF Tour!!! Which, IMO, is one of the better 80's set lists. Good choices between POW and HYF songs, as well as a few more classics. Also, one of the few tours to have a near-complete soundboard(-quality) show in the form of the Birmingham show used for the A Show Of Hands video!

-Marc.

Yeah, that Birmingham show is probably as good as it gets.
There a few other choice shows and some videos, but there weren't too many interesting things going on aside from the odd equipment malfunction to make things unique.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: snowdog on July 31, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
Also, thanks for bumping this thread again. It seems I have (once again) forgotten about it, but this week I will move on with the HYF Tour!!! Which, IMO, is one of the better 80's set lists. Good choices between POW and HYF songs, as well as a few more classics. Also, one of the few tours to have a near-complete soundboard(-quality) show in the form of the Birmingham show used for the A Show Of Hands video!

-Marc.

And if I'm not mistaken songs that didn't appear on the video but did appear on the CD were from the Birmingham shows as well.  (Subdivisions, Distant Early Warning, Time Stand Still, and the full version of the drum solo).  I'm also not counting Witch Hunt or Mystic Rhythms since those were recorded on the PoW tour.  So between the two you almost get the full setlist from that tour.  Only thing missing is Limelight and Red Lenses.  And possibly Lock and Key if you don't have access to the Laser Disc.   I was really bummed that when they released A Show of Hands on DVD they didn't include Lock and Key.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Power Windows Tour
Post by: ytserush on August 05, 2013, 03:40:53 PM
Lock and Key should have definately been included as part of some DVD.

But then so should Countdown and The Body Electric.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: The Letter M on August 07, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
The Hold Your Fire Tour began on the 29th of October, 1987, hitting the usual spots in the US, the UK and Canada, to the end of the tour on the 5th of May, 1988. Known opening acts for this tour included MSG, Tommy Shaw, Chalk Circle, and The Rainmakers. It is believed that the set list for this tour remained constant throughout with no known changes from any of the dates.

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Shared from Nick is the well known HYF soundboard bootleg from the Birmingham show used mostly for the ASOH tour video and album. It's a great compiled bootleg and is missing very little!
Hold Your Fire Tour - "Birmingham '88 Remaster"  (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1228)
Birmingham, UK on 4/23/88
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1988-04-23.rar

Below is my compilation of HYF shows to create my complete tour representation. The bulk of the show comes from Birmingham:

Rush - Hold Your Fire Tour - 118:24
(Live In Birmingham, UK on 4/23/88)
(Birmingham '88 Remaster - SBD)

Disc 1 - 58:41
 1. Three Stooges Intro      0:53
 2. The Big Money         5:58
 3. Subdivisions         5:25
 4. Limelight*          4:37
 5. Marathon            6:33
 6. Turn The Page         4:42
 7. Prime Mover         5:33
 8. Manhattan Project         5:11
 9. Closer To The Heart      4:32
10. Red Sector A         5:12
11. Force Ten            4:55
12. Time Stand Still        5:10

Disc 2 - 59:43
 1. Distant Early Warning*      7:28
 2. Lock And Key         5:42
 3. Mission            5:42
 4. Territories         6:20
 5. YYZ            3:19
 6. The Rhythm Method*        6:00
 7. Red Lenses*          0:23
 8. The Spirit Of Radio*      4:59
 9. Tom Sawyer         5:39
10. 2112          5:33
11. La Villa Strangiato      5:27
12. In The Mood         3:11

*(Imaginations On Fire - AUD)
 (Milwaukee, Wisconsin on 04/05/88)
-Limelight
-DEW recorded intro
-Parts of the drum solo
-Red Lenses snippet/Intro to TSOR

Note - Show is still missing:
-Opening clocks of TSS
-Most of 2112's intro sound

Approximately 8:00 - Non-SB Sourced

For this compiled show, there was much missing to begin with. The Birmingham boot has nearly the entire show! The only full songs missing were "Limelight" and the bit of "Red Lenses" that came after the drum solo and went in to "The Spirit Of Radio". There were also bits of intro missing from "Distant Early Warning", "Time Stand Still" and "2112", as well as sections of the drum solo, but most of these things were filled in with a good audience bootleg from Milwaukee (where a lot of good bootleggers seem to record Rush shows!). This was the best and most complete I could make a HYF show, and I'm glad the Birmingham show exists to fill out most of it!

As for the show itself, if you've heard ASOH, you've heard some of this, and if you've watch ASOH, you've heard most of this. It's a great sounding show, and the songs are on fire, although I will say "Marathon" sounds a BIT slower than it did on the Power Windows Tour. We are treated to only 6 new songs this tour, as opposed to the 7 (out of 8) from the last, leaving 4 songs unplayed from the album (all four of which have stayed unplayed since this tour - "Second Nature", "Open Secrets", "Tai Shan" and "High Water"). Of these, highlights include "Lock And Key" and "Prime Mover", as well as the ever popular "Mission".

Four songs carried over from the 7 Power Windows songs, and they're good choices too. Returning from a two-tour hiatus is "La Villa Strangiato", now in an oldies medley with "In The Mood" and "2112 Overture/Temples Of Syrinx" sandwiched around it. It's one of my favorite encore medleys, and there's some great playing in the "A Lerxst In Wonderland" section from Neil, as well as Lerxst of course. The rest of the show showcases the then-usual suspects; "Tom Sawyer", "The Spirit Of Radio", "Limelight", "Subdivisions", and "Closer To The Heart".

It's one of my favorite 80's set lists but then again, depending on my mood, I could say almost any of the 80's sets are my favorite, but this particular show and the sound quality push it up a couple notches. Definitely get this if you've never heard it all before.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: jammindude on August 07, 2013, 03:14:18 PM
Is there a version where we can hear Alex's rant on LVS?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: snowdog on August 07, 2013, 03:29:40 PM
I've never seen that surface.  I remember reading an interview somewhere where Geddy said that they were not actually recording anything on Alex's mic which is why it didn't appear on the video.  So they made a joke out of it with the warning message.  Apparently he wasn't ranting but "singing" the keyboard part there.  It would be funny to hear.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: KevShmev on August 07, 2013, 11:26:11 PM
A Show of Hands remains in many ways my favorite Rush live video ever, largely for nostalgic reasons, but I still hate how they messed with the sound when they transferred it over from VHS to DVD.  The DVD simply doesn't sound as good as the VHS did, mostly because some of Alex's guitar parts were lowered in the mix and/or drowned in distortion that they added.  I suspect Alex did that because, looking back, he hated his wiry sound of that era, but messing with it at all was still a huge mistake. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: ytserush on August 08, 2013, 03:40:20 PM
I've never seen that surface.  I remember reading an interview somewhere where Geddy said that they were not actually recording anything on Alex's mic which is why it didn't appear on the video.  So they made a joke out of it with the warning message.  Apparently he wasn't ranting but "singing" the keyboard part there.  It would be funny to hear.

It may have been a one-off or something for the Euroleg.

I don't recall him doing that for the two shows I saw in person and the dozen or so other shows I've heard/seen.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: ytserush on August 08, 2013, 03:49:27 PM
A Show of Hands remains in many ways my favorite Rush live video ever, largely for nostalgic reasons, but I still hate how they messed with the sound when they transferred it over from VHS to DVD.  The DVD simply doesn't sound as good as the VHS did, mostly because some of Alex's guitar parts were lowered in the mix and/or drowned in distortion that they added.  I suspect Alex did that because, looking back, he hated his wiry sound of that era, but messing with it at all was still a huge mistake.

They screwed up on all three transfers for various reasons in my opinion....even the Grace Under Pressure Tour which happens to be my fave of those three.

Bothers me to the point where I as often as not go with the straight transfer versions.

Peoria 1988 is a pretty good show...as is the 12/9/87 Nassau Coliseum show.

Videos for the tour are usually dark and drab and the fashion of the period didn't help much to distinguish the guys from fading into the background.

I'd have to believe that there are you tube videos from these shows up somewhere although the video explosion doesn't really happen until about 1991.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: The Letter M on August 15, 2013, 12:37:53 AM
I've never seen that surface.  I remember reading an interview somewhere where Geddy said that they were not actually recording anything on Alex's mic which is why it didn't appear on the video.  So they made a joke out of it with the warning message.  Apparently he wasn't ranting but "singing" the keyboard part there.  It would be funny to hear.

It may have been a one-off or something for the Euroleg.

I don't recall him doing that for the two shows I saw in person and the dozen or so other shows I've heard/seen.

I've always wondered if Alex looked back at this and used it as an inspiration to start his "Lerxst Rants" during "La Villa Strangiato" on the VT and R30 tours?

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: jammindude on August 15, 2013, 11:57:55 PM
I've never seen that surface.  I remember reading an interview somewhere where Geddy said that they were not actually recording anything on Alex's mic which is why it didn't appear on the video.  So they made a joke out of it with the warning message.  Apparently he wasn't ranting but "singing" the keyboard part there.  It would be funny to hear.

It may have been a one-off or something for the Euroleg.

I don't recall him doing that for the two shows I saw in person and the dozen or so other shows I've heard/seen.

I've always wondered if Alex looked back at this and used it as an inspiration to start his "Lerxst Rants" during "La Villa Strangiato" on the VT and R30 tours?

-Marc.

I hope when we get to that tour....that maybe...possibly...someone has assembled a compilation of ALL of them.   It would make a nice bonus disc.  ;D
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: The Letter M on August 16, 2013, 05:19:24 AM
I've never seen that surface.  I remember reading an interview somewhere where Geddy said that they were not actually recording anything on Alex's mic which is why it didn't appear on the video.  So they made a joke out of it with the warning message.  Apparently he wasn't ranting but "singing" the keyboard part there.  It would be funny to hear.

It may have been a one-off or something for the Euroleg.

I don't recall him doing that for the two shows I saw in person and the dozen or so other shows I've heard/seen.

I've always wondered if Alex looked back at this and used it as an inspiration to start his "Lerxst Rants" during "La Villa Strangiato" on the VT and R30 tours?

-Marc.

I hope when we get to that tour....that maybe...possibly...someone has assembled a compilation of ALL of them.   It would make a nice bonus disc.  ;D

Wait...you don't have the Lerxst Rants bootleg?!

https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/alphalist.php#L

Look at "Lerxst In Strangiato", there are 5 volumes of it!!! :tup

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: ytserush on August 16, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
I've never seen that surface.  I remember reading an interview somewhere where Geddy said that they were not actually recording anything on Alex's mic which is why it didn't appear on the video.  So they made a joke out of it with the warning message.  Apparently he wasn't ranting but "singing" the keyboard part there.  It would be funny to hear.

It may have been a one-off or something for the Euroleg.

I don't recall him doing that for the two shows I saw in person and the dozen or so other shows I've heard/seen.

I've always wondered if Alex looked back at this and used it as an inspiration to start his "Lerxst Rants" during "La Villa Strangiato" on the VT and R30 tours?

-Marc.

I suppose it's possible.

The "ranting" history (at least on a regular basis ) goes back to the Counterparts Tour during Closer To The Heart.



Oh...I may have forgotten to add this link for Fly By Night. Definately museum quality stuff here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVH6axLHoHQ.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: ytserush on January 16, 2014, 08:29:27 PM
Five month bump.....

The Atlantic Years......
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 16, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
Five month bump.....

The Atlantic Years......

Ahhh yes, I've been thinking about this thread lately, and I think, since at least YOU are interested, I will start it back up sometime this weekend. I'll have to dig out my Presto show and give it a spin. I have since deleted my 20-some tour shows from my iPod, but they're on my 1.5TB portable harddrive, so it won't be too hard to dig out at least the Presto-onward tours to listen to before I do some write-ups.

As a topic of discussion before I get to the Presto Tour write-up, what are some of the Presto songs that they haven't played live yet that deserve to be played? My top choices are "Chain Lightning" and "Available Light", especially the latter. Presto has some GREAT material, but the thin production kind of marred that. Unfortunately, very few songs from this album were played lvie again after this tour, and since then, only one new song has been played live, being the title track.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 16, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Great thread here.  It's pretty great to see the timeline and the setlists that they were playing all the way from the start up to Hold Your Fire and continuing on.  Consider me a follower of this thread.  Keep up with the good stuff in the thread.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: ytserush on January 18, 2014, 02:55:00 PM
Presto is my least favorite Rush tour of all -time, but I'll get to that when the time comes.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: Unlegit on January 18, 2014, 02:58:05 PM
I'm very interested to see this continued!  :tup
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: gazinwales on January 18, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
A Show of Hands remains in many ways my favorite Rush live video ever, largely for nostalgic reasons, but I still hate how they messed with the sound when they transferred it over from VHS to DVD.  The DVD simply doesn't sound as good as the VHS did, mostly because some of Alex's guitar parts were lowered in the mix and/or drowned in distortion that they added.  I suspect Alex did that because, looking back, he hated his wiry sound of that era, but messing with it at all was still a huge mistake.

Yeah I hated his sound of that era, but I guess it fitted in with their sound.
But he can only blame himself for playing all those single coil Strat type guitars, that have that wiry thin sound.
He went from playing Gibson's with that big fat tone, to the flimsy sound of a Strat, the PRS and now thankfully Gibson's again.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Hold Your Fire Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on January 18, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
Love those 2 pick Mr. M!!  I think Red Tide would sound great live.  Saw them twice on the Presto tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 21, 2014, 11:54:30 PM
The Presto Tour began and ended less than five months after it started, going from February 15th, 1990 to June 29th, 1990. Supporting bands this go around included the return of Chalk Circle, joined by Voivod and Mr. Big. Regarding the shortness of the tour, Geddy had this to say:

Quote
"The Presto tour was a short one, intentionally, because we weren't so sure about touring anymore. And things worked out so well, we actually finished the tour and everyone was still smiling." - Geddy Lee, "Rockline", May 15, 1992

The Power Windows website adds the following about the setlist:

Quote
This is the last tour to include "In The Mood". This is one of only two tours in which "Limelight" was not included in the set, either full time or as an alternate/replacement (the other being the Grace Under Pressure tour). In addition, the first third of this tour are the only tourdates which did not include "The Spirit Of Radio" in the setlist since its inception. This is the first tour to include The Surfari's "Wipe Out" during the encore; it would also be included during the first leg of the Test For Echo tour.

Setlist changes during this tour: "Superconductor" originally followed "Show Don't Tell" and "The Big Money" began the encore. Five days into the tour, "Superconductor" was moved up in front of "Show Don't Tell". One-third into the tour (beginning 4/2), "The Spirit of Radio" replaced "The Big Money".

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Shared from Nick from this tour is quite possibly the most well-known soundboard from the whole tour, a show from Hartford, CT. It is a near-complete show from the tour, marred only by the missing intro and a bit of the beginning of "Force Ten".
Presto Tour - "The Hartford '90" Hartford, CT on 5/8/90 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1279)
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1990-05-8.rar


Below is my compilation of a show for this tour, although because a near-complete soundboard already existed for the Presto Tour, the only things I had to fix were the intro/beginning of Force Ten, which I filled in with a bit from a show a week earlier, an audience recording that is pretty good.

Rush - Presto Tour - 120:28
(Live In Hartford, CT on 5/8/90)
(THe Hartford '90 - SBD)

Disc 1 - 60:59
 1. Force Ten*           5:04
 2. Freewill            4:02
 3. Distant Early Warning      4:23
 4. Time Stand Still         6:18
 5. Subdivisions         5:34
 6. Marathon            6:43
 7. Red Barchetta         6:57
 8. Superconductor         5:16
 9. Show Don't Tell         6:43
10. The Pass            5:03
11. Closer To The Heart      4:56

Disc 2 - 59:29
 1. Manhattan Project         5:10
 2. Xanadu            6:51
 3. YYZ            3:18
 4. The Rhythm Method        5:11
 5. Scars            4:44
 6. War Paint            5:53
 7. Mission            5:40
 8. Tom Sawyer         6:35
 9. The Spirit Of Radio      4:55
10. 2112: Overture         3:22
11. La Villa Strangiato      4:51
12. In The Mood/Wipeout       3:00

*Force Ten intro filled in from:
(Target Mass Appeal PE - AUD)
(Atlanta, GA on 5/1/1990)

Missing:
The Big Money - original encore opener
Replaced by The Spirit Of Radio on 4/2/90

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

I haven't gotten around to listening to this show lately as I had hoped, but I do remember it. It's a good set list, and there are a few carry-overs from the HYF tour, such as ending the show with "Tom Sawyer", and including "2112 Overture", "La Villa Strangiato" and "In The Mood" in the encore. Of interest to me is the beginning of the second disc, which runs as a near 25-minute medley of music. The ending of "Manhattan Project" goes nearly seamlessly into "Xanadu", which sees it's return to the show since the New World Tour. Then, as done before, "YYZ" goes into Neil's solo, the end of which sets up his electronic-drum intro for "Scars". A great set of songs, and a highlight of the whole show.

As for new songs, the band played only 5 new songs from their new album, and did so in 2 chunks rather than spreading them out over the course of the show, and in fact, they spend 7 songs playing older songs before playing anything new. Then of course, they open with "Superconductor", a song that polarizes many fans, but then they play two of the best songs on the album. Later on, they play the aforementioned "Scars", which sounds great live and I wish they would've brought it back for later tours. "War Paint" is a nice addition as well, but ends the new songs for the tour. They then spend the rest of the show with oldies.

It's a fairly balanced set list, with the return of "Xanadu", the amount of 70's Rush material goes up a bit. They play 7 songs from their synth-era/Sector 3 albums (8 if you count 'The Big Money" from earlier in the tour), 5 from PEW/MOV, and 5 from their 70's material. It's pretty balanced, and probably their most balanced set in years/tours. It's a shame this tour was so short compared to others, but I am glad they enjoyed it enough to realize they couldn't stop touring!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: jammindude on January 22, 2014, 01:41:36 AM
I adore this tour.   It was my second ever Rush show...and it is such an "overlooked" tour.   A few songs from Presto that have been ignored ever since are represented here.

Superconductor, War Paint and Scars leap immediately to mind.   Never got the hate for Superconductor.   One of Alex's coolest riffs, and it was such a refreshing "rocker" after 4 albums of "THE WALL OF SYNTHS"!!!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2014, 06:36:08 AM
I adore this tour.   It was my second ever Rush show...and it is such an "overlooked" tour.   A few songs from Presto that have been ignored ever since are represented here.

Superconductor, War Paint and Scars leap immediately to mind.   Never got the hate for Superconductor.   One of Alex's coolest riffs, and it was such a refreshing "rocker" after 4 albums of "THE WALL OF SYNTHS"!!!

Me either.  Very accessible and fun tune.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: TAC on January 22, 2014, 07:12:49 AM
Two words:

GIANT BUNNIES!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: The Letter M on January 22, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
I adore this tour.   It was my second ever Rush show...and it is such an "overlooked" tour.   A few songs from Presto that have been ignored ever since are represented here.

Superconductor, War Paint and Scars leap immediately to mind.   Never got the hate for Superconductor.   One of Alex's coolest riffs, and it was such a refreshing "rocker" after 4 albums of "THE WALL OF SYNTHS"!!!

Well, I mean, the band enjoyed it enough to bring it back on the RTB tour, albeit in one of the weirdest spots in the history of Rush tours - in a medley following "Xanadu", the spot where "YYZ" came in on the previous tour and where "Hemispheres: I. Prelude" would sit in the next tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: KevShmev on January 23, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Superconductor isn't that good, but it's still far better than the debacle that is War Paint.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
Superconductor isn't that good, but it's still far better than the debacle that is War Paint.
Or The Pass.

But yes, War Paint definitely does suck.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: Lucien on January 23, 2014, 04:25:19 PM
The Pass is amazing  :huh:

Anagram is my favorite song off of Presto though so I don't know.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: jammindude on January 23, 2014, 06:54:20 PM
Anagram is lyrically interesting...but just a so-so song.    Can't believe the hate for War Paint.    Easily in my top 5 for that album....maybe top 3.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 23, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
Reading about the tour makes me want to go ahead and listen to Presto.  Uhhhhhh, I'm not a huge fan of it.  I mean I love The Pass and the title track, but I think having those songs being played in their DVDs during the 2000s helped a lot.  This album just has a very very weirdish sound to me where I can understand some of the fans' gripe about it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Presto Tour
Post by: ytserush on January 30, 2014, 07:31:14 PM
Quote

The Presto Tour began and ended less than five months after it started, going from February 15th, 1990 to June 29th, 1990. Supporting bands this go around included the return of Chalk Circle, joined by Voivod and Mr. Big. Regarding the shortness of the tour, Geddy had this to say:


Quote
"The Presto tour was a short one, intentionally, because we weren't so sure about touring anymore. And things worked out so well, we actually finished the tour and everyone was still smiling." - Geddy Lee, "Rockline", May 15, 1992
The Power Windows website adds the following about the setlist:


Quote
This is the last tour to include "In The Mood". This is one of only two tours in which "Limelight" was not included in the set, either full time or as an alternate/replacement (the other being the Grace Under Pressure tour). In addition, the first third of this tour are the only tourdates which did not include "The Spirit Of Radio" in the setlist since its inception. This is the first tour to include The Surfari's "Wipe Out" during the encore; it would also be included during the first leg of the Test For Echo tour.

Setlist changes during this tour: "Superconductor" originally followed "Show Don't Tell" and "The Big Money" began the encore. Five days into the tour, "Superconductor" was moved up in front of "Show Don't Tell". One-third into the tour (beginning 4/2), "The Spirit of Radio" replaced "The Big Money".
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Shared from Nick from this tour is quite possibly the most well-known soundboard from the whole tour, a show from Hartford, CT. It is a near-complete show from the tour, marred only by the missing intro and a bit of the beginning of "Force Ten".
Presto Tour - "The Hartford '90" Hartford, CT on 5/8/90
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1990-05-8.rar


Below is my compilation of a show for this tour, although because a near-complete soundboard already existed for the Presto Tour, the only things I had to fix were the intro/beginning of Force Ten, which I filled in with a bit from a show a week earlier, an audience recording that is pretty good.

Rush - Presto Tour - 120:28
(Live In Hartford, CT on 5/8/90)
(THe Hartford '90 - SBD)

Disc 1 - 60:59
 1. Force Ten*           5:04
 2. Freewill            4:02
 3. Distant Early Warning      4:23
 4. Time Stand Still         6:18
 5. Subdivisions         5:34
 6. Marathon            6:43
 7. Red Barchetta         6:57
 8. Superconductor         5:16
 9. Show Don't Tell         6:43
10. The Pass            5:03
11. Closer To The Heart      4:56

Disc 2 - 59:29
 1. Manhattan Project         5:10
 2. Xanadu            6:51
 3. YYZ            3:18
 4. The Rhythm Method        5:11
 5. Scars            4:44
 6. War Paint            5:53
 7. Mission            5:40
 8. Tom Sawyer         6:35
 9. The Spirit Of Radio      4:55
10. 2112: Overture         3:22
11. La Villa Strangiato      4:51
12. In The Mood/Wipeout       3:00

*Force Ten intro filled in from:
(Target Mass Appeal PE - AUD)
(Atlanta, GA on 5/1/1990)

Missing:
The Big Money - original encore opener
Replaced by The Spirit Of Radio on 4/2/90

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

I haven't gotten around to listening to this show lately as I had hoped, but I do remember it. It's a good set list, and there are a few carry-overs from the HYF tour, such as ending the show with "Tom Sawyer", and including "2112 Overture", "La Villa Strangiato" and "In The Mood" in the encore. Of interest to me is the beginning of the second disc, which runs as a near 25-minute medley of music. The ending of "Manhattan Project" goes nearly seamlessly into "Xanadu", which sees it's return to the show since the New World Tour. Then, as done before, "YYZ" goes into Neil's solo, the end of which sets up his electronic-drum intro for "Scars". A great set of songs, and a highlight of the whole show.

As for new songs, the band played only 5 new songs from their new album, and did so in 2 chunks rather than spreading them out over the course of the show, and in fact, they spend 7 songs playing older songs before playing anything new. Then of course, they open with "Superconductor", a song that polarizes many fans, but then they play two of the best songs on the album. Later on, they play the aforementioned "Scars", which sounds great live and I wish they would've brought it back for later tours. "War Paint" is a nice addition as well, but ends the new songs for the tour. They then spend the rest of the show with oldies.

It's a fairly balanced set list, with the return of "Xanadu", the amount of 70's Rush material goes up a bit. They play 7 songs from their synth-era/Sector 3 albums (8 if you count 'The Big Money" from earlier in the tour), 5 from PEW/MOV, and 5 from their 70's material. It's pretty balanced, and probably their most balanced set in years/tours. It's a shame this tour was so short compared to others, but I am glad they enjoyed it enough to realize they couldn't stop touring!










I always thought Warpaint was pretty amazing myself.

Here's your bunny fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6kRzxgzwDc

I'm sure the whole show must be out there somewhere.  I really need to transfer my video to DVD.


Okay......This has always been my least favorite Rush tour for a bunch or reasons. (Although I love the album, the band has never seemed too fond of it)

It's funny. Even though they say they were close to calling it a day after the last tour at the end of their association with Mercury/Polygram, they seemed (at least to me to be going through the motions on this tour more often than not based on what I've seen and heard (in person and on CD/video)  Neil just looked old, slow and mechanical to me.
They've been on record as saying this was a tour that rekindled the band, but I was never able to grasp that for some reason.


"Before Presto, we were pretty exhausted. We were kind of burned out from touring. We took a good break and got back into that record with lots of enthusiasm. and the tour that followed was probably one of the best ones we've ever done, it was well opaced and we went to  really good parts of America. Not ALL of the good parts mind you, just SOME of the good parts!"  --Alex (Much Music)




First of all, the set is a pretty safe one. Ninety percent of it shows up on (pick your favorite Mercury/Polygram compliation album.)

Second....They've always been about the new stuff yet they only play five new songs from the album (and one of them isn't Presto?) and bury them in the set.  And how do you play most of Freewill, then bail before Geddy's high notes?

Third, while these shows weren't BAD it's most of the shows on the tours before and since seem to be much better.

Say what you want about the Hold Your Fire tour, but they really nailed those songs from Power Windows and Hold Your Fire. I just don't see as much enthusiasm on the Presto Tour. (And they've admitted they were burnt out on that stuff by that point.)

Least important was that I wasn't exactly endeared to their fashion sense at this point and Mr. Big did nothing for me as an opener. (Though I am a fan of Gilbert and Sheehan)



There were some pretty great shows, just not as many as we've come to expect over the years.

Here are a few of my favorites although I admit I don't listen to shows from this tour a lot. but if I want to hear Warpaint and Scars they way they were meant to be, I pretty much have no choice.



For those of you who like the quirkiness of soundchecks:

5/17/90 Toronto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmZeMLevP_Y

A few of my favorite shows...

6/17/90
Alpine Valley, East Troy Wi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktfV_qb3AfM


June 27, 1990
Mountainview, Ca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VoFmCocTs0

I just noticed that these shows that I like are later in the tour. Maybe that means something.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: The Letter M on March 26, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
Roll The Bones came out on September 3rd of 1991, and nearly 2 months later at the end of October, on the 25th, their tour began. They toured across North America, then through Europe, then back to North America for a second leg, ending their tour on June 28th, 1992. Supporting bands for this tour included Eric Johnson, Vinnie Moore, Primus, Mr. Big, Andy Curran, and The Tragically Hip.

Quote
"It was great being on tour with Rush. I really loved hanging with those guys and getting to know Alex Lifeson a bit. They're such pros, man. I learned a lot about touring and how to put on a show from watching them and their whole crew. They're seasoned veterans. Watching their entire operation was pretty eye-opening." - Eric Johnson, MusicRadar.com, December 16, 2010

The Power Windows website adds the following about the setlist:

Quote
For this tour, "Freewill" and "Xanadu" were abbreviated, both segueing into other songs midway through the song. Performed on every tour since their release, "In The Mood" and "YYZ" were not included in the setlist for the first time ever; although this is the only tour to not include "YYZ", "In The Mood" has not been performed since the Presto tour.

Setlist changes during this tour: while not present the first few dates, "Ghost Of A Chance" was added during the first month of the tour. Beginning with the European leg a short "Cygnus X-1" teaser was added to close the finale (a practice which was brought back for the Test For Echo tour). Beginning with the Denver show, with less than a month left in the tour, "Subdivisions" and "The Pass" were dropped and "The Trees" was added, and as early as two shows later "Vital Signs" and "The Analog Kid" were also added in the slots previously held by "Subdivisions" and "The Pass"; these three songs would remain in the setlist for the remainder of the tour. During this final leg's performances of "The Trees", Alex regularly played a few notes similar to the Beach Boys' "Sloop John B", a treatment that would continue during the following tour.

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Shared from Nick from is a very well known Oakland show from the RTB tour. Up to that point, this bootleg is the complete show, and one of the better sounding soundboards of the tour, and possibly of all Rush ROIOs!
Roll The Bones Tour - "Mirrors" Oakland, CA on 1/30/92 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1083)
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1992-01-30.zip

Below is my compilation of a show for this tour taken mainly from the infamous soundboard show from Oakland, with 3 later-tour swap-out tracks taken from another great soundboard show from this tour of the Charlotte show. Both shows are highly recommended, but I went with the Oakland show as the base of my compilation and just threw in the other three in.

Rush - Roll The Bones Tour - 140:44
(Live In Oakland, CA on 1/30/92)
(Mirrors - SBD)

Disc 1 - 71:28
 1. Intro/Force Ten         5:54
 2. Limelight            4:27
 3. Freewill            4:05
 4. Distant Early Warning      4:33
 5. Time Stand Still         6:17
 6. Dreamline            5:10
 7. Bravado            7:00
 8. Roll The Bones         6:11
 9. Show Don't Tell         6:22
10. The Big Money       6:48
11. Ghost Of A Chance         5:35
12. Subdivisions         4:16
13. The Pass            4:51

Disc 2 - 69:16
 1. Vital Signs*       4:53
 2. The Analog Kid*       5:22
 3. The Trees*           5:12
 4. Where's My Thing?         5:16
 5. The Rhythm Method       7:30
 6. Closer To The Heart      4:48
 7. Xanadu            6:37
 8. Superconductor         5:09
 9. Tom Sawyer         5:57
10. The Spirit Of Radio       5:03
11. 2112 Overture       3:23
12. Finding My way       2:10
13. La Villa Strangiato       3:18
14. Anthem           1:46
15. Red Barchetta       1:36
16. The Spirit Of Radio (Ending) 1:15

*Bonus Tracks sourced from:
(Vital Dreams - SBD)
(Charlotte, NC on 6/14/92)

Note - Missing "Cygnus X-1" Teaser
          after the encore
          added as early as 4/29/92

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

This tour had a pretty expansive set list, and the encore medley is one of their most complex, including 6 (7 counting the "Cygnus X-1" teaser) different songs! From their then new album, they featured five out of ten new songs live, including the four songs released as singles, and the album's only instrumental, "Where's My Thing?", which was only featured on that tour until recently! For the tour, "Bravado" was extended with an extra instrumental jam, a practice that would continue for every other performance of the song after this tour.

"Xanadu", one of the few 70's Rush songs still in the set, segues once again into another song half-way through, but this time it goes into the head-scratching "Supderconductor". It's an odd choice to segue in to ("YYZ" being the choice last tour, and "Hemispheres Prelude" being the one next tour) and I'm sure it brought a LOT of odd looks on people's faces. I guess the band had a ton of fun playing it as it's one of three songs they kept from Presto from the last tour.

Neil's drum solo continued to grow, and even included bits from "Scars" as well as rearranging older parts. The encore expanded from the previous tour to now include snippets of "Finding My Way" and "Anthem" in lieu of "In The Mood", as well as a bit of "Red Barchetta".

This is one of my favorite tours, especially for all the songs they played on it! There's a lot of material here as well as a lot of soundboard bootlegs to choose from! It seems a lot of tapers/bootleggers did a lot of hard work this tour and now we can all enjoy their hard work!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: KevShmev on March 26, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
My first Rush tour.  Looking at the set list, it's not hard to imagine ways to have improved it (the Xanadu/Superconductor segue is still the biggest WTF in Rush live history), but at the time, as someone who had literally just gotten into the band over the previous two months, the show I saw was, at the time, the greatest thing ever. :coolio
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: gazinwales on March 27, 2014, 02:25:29 AM
I own an original silver pressing of the Mirrors bootleg.
I can't remember when I got it, but was a long time ago.
Are silver boots worth anything these days?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: Big Hath on March 27, 2014, 09:52:26 AM
Mirrors and Vital Dreams are pretty much the best things ever!

Still, there are SOOOO many other great boots from this tour.  Run Faster, Over The Europe, Atmospheric, Big Money/Big Apple, etc
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: The Letter M on March 27, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
Mirrors and Vital Dreams are pretty much the best things ever!

Still, there are SOOOO many other great boots from this tour.  Run Faster, Over The Europe, Atmospheric, Big Money/Big Apple, etc

I had no idea there were THAT many! Are those you mentioned all soundboards, or are they a mix of soundboards and audience recordings? I was just always told that Mirrors and Vital Dreams were the cream of the crop, and between both, they cover all of the songs featured on the tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: Big Hath on March 27, 2014, 08:59:29 PM
no, all those are not soundboards.  Over The Europe and Atmospheric are audience, but they sound spectacular.

However, I do know of at least 5 soundboards from this tour:

Nov 7 - St Louis (Row The Boats) - criticized for sounding a bit thin and compressed
Dec 7 - New York (Big Money Meets The Big Apple) - spectacular
Jan 30 - Oakland (Mirrors)
April 17 - London (Run Faster) - originally released as Run From The Fans, however that release was a bit too slow, hence this "faster" release.  pretty sure this was a radio broadcast.  Sounds great!
June 14 - Charlotte (Vital Dreams)
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: ytserush on April 01, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
no, all those are not soundboards.  Over The Europe and Atmospheric are audience, but they sound spectacular.

However, I do know of at least 5 soundboards from this tour:

Nov 7 - St Louis (Row The Boats) - criticized for sounding a bit thin and compressed
Dec 7 - New York (Big Money Meets The Big Apple) - spectacular
Jan 30 - Oakland (Mirrors)
April 17 - London (Run Faster) - originally released as Run From The Fans, however that release was a bit too slow, hence this "faster" release.  pretty sure this was a radio broadcast.  Sounds great!
June 14 - Charlotte (Vital Dreams)


I'll do a more expansive review of this tour later (maybe sometime over the weekend) but I'm a HUGE fan of the Euro leg and the third US leg (They took a month off for Christmas) I think this is really where they start to get over their mid-life crisis.

That said, the December 7, 1991 show is pretty amazing. I often overlook that one because I enjoy the improv-tinged shows later in the show so much.

The Jan. 30 show was one of the first ones out there coming out a few months after the show (and it is a soundboard) so it's had a longer time for the legend to grow. The rumor on this one is that Les Claypool leaked it.

I think I have a video of the Nov. 7 show, but not the audio. Been I LOOOONG time since I've watched it though.

If I recall correctly, a lot of those early shows aren't that great (performance-wise.)

Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: KevShmev on April 01, 2014, 10:28:42 PM
11-7-91 was my first Rush concert. :coolio :hat
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: ytserush on May 10, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
I've always felt that this tour...at least the second half of it was the start of an invigorating live show. Partly, if not more so, I think it had to do with Neil's involvement with the Buddy Rich Memorial concert where he was humbled by a great collection of jazz drummers and their ability to rely on  improv.

This is also the tour that fans were those "Neil has Cancer" rumors that began in the mid-'80s reasserted themselves possibly due to the fact that Neil was wearing a bandana to keep the sweat off of his face.


Strange pairings of songs included the abrupt segue into Distant Early Warning and moving into Superconductor from Xanadu.

One example of bring the humor back was Neil's air guitar windmill moment during Finding My Way in the "Big Medley" (It had been 10 years since the last encore medley.) Although this was pretty stiff some nights, it was still fun to watch as it was totally unexpected and out of character for Neil visibly goof off like that during a show.  It was the start of some great humorous things to come on subsequent tours when the band realized it was okay to just be themselves.

That should do it for the useless trivia....


For some reason I can't find those full Euro shows online, but here are a few shows at various points in the tour.


11/7/1991 (The listing says 92 but it's 91)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8SZeRmaMco

1//30/1992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9cqIPwAjL8


Here's another fave show of mine with The Trees, The Analog Kid and Vital Signs with that sweet guitar outro added for the 3rd US leg.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RupNCPVAJg
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 10, 2014, 10:54:05 PM
Thanks for the thread resurrection, ytserush! Work's been crazy lately so I haven't had the time to focus on this like I used to. In a week or so, I'll revisit this and continue with the Counterparts tour (which is one of my favorites as far as set lists go).

Great tidbits regarding the RTB tour! I had forgotten about the "Neil Has Cancer" thing. At least, I'm fairly certain I remember reading about it in some article or book about Rush that I own. :lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Roll The Bones Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 12, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
The Counterparts Tour began in late January on the 22nd, and ended on May 7th. A short four month tour with fewer opening bands: Candlebox, The Melvins, Primus, The Doughboys, and I Mother Earth. This would be the last tour that Rush would have any opening acts.

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"It was [Primus] that got us to bring back parts from 'Hemispheres'...they would jam at soundcheck with all this stuff and we'd stand at the side of the stage and laugh. We got very close with them and hung out a lot and they said, 'You know, you should bring some of that stuff back, it was so cool, it's what we grew up with...' So we figured, 'Yeah, ok!' We started messing around in sound check with bits and pieces from 'Hemispheres' and then brought it back on the last tour." - Alex Lifeson, A Show Of Fans #13, Winter 1996

The Power Windows website adds the following about the setlist:

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This was the last tour in which Rush toured with an opening band. In addition, this is the only tour that did not include any part of "2112" in the setlist; in fact, nothing from the first four albums was in the set. This tour marks the return of "Hemispheres", with 'Prelude' performed for the first time in twelve years (it would only be heard again as part of the "R30 Overture"). Having fun this tour, Geddy usually introduced "Cold Fire" as a country song (often with a country music introduction), Alex again referenced a few notes from the Beach Boys' "Sloop John B" at the end of "The Trees" (a practice that began on the final leg of the previous tour), and Alex would also introduce "Stick It Out" with a humorous comment and later in the show gave humorous band introductions during the "Closer To The Heart" jam; the introductions were never the same, and never did he make correct introductions, usually introducing each member of the band as a famous celebrity.

The setlist for this tour remained constant until the addition of "Bravado" for only the final two weeks of the tour (one of those performances was included on Different Stages). Although not included in the final setlist, during pre-tour rehearsals "Distant Early Warning" was performed between "Force Ten" and "YYZ".

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Shared from Nick from is a very well known Madison show from the CP tour. This is another complete show with a bonus later-leg track included, all soundboard quality!
Counterparts Tour - "Cool Dream" 04/02/94 Dane County Coliseum, Madison, Wisconsin (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1419)
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1994-04-2.zip

For my mix of this tour, I basically took the original bootleg and just moved "Bravado" to the end of the first disc, which is where the song was played in the setlist between "Limelight" and "Mystic Rhythms".

Rush - Counterparts Tour - 129:27
(Live In Madison, WI on 4/2/94)
(Cool Dream - SBD)

Disc 1 - 67:36
 1. Intro          1:33
 2. Dreamline           5:03
 3. The Spirit Of Radio       4:55
 4. The Analog Kid       6:07
 5. Cold Fire          4:30
 6. Time Stand Still       5:40
 7. Nobody's Hero       5:03
 8. Roll The Bones       6:09
 9. Animate          7:28
10. Stick It Out       5:14
11. Double Agent       4:54
12. Limelight           4:36
13. Bravado (Bonus Track)    6:23

Disc 2 - 61:51
 1. Mystic Rhythms        6:04
 2. Closer To The Heart       5:37
 3. Show Don't Tell       5:20
 4. LTTA (intro)       1:32
 5. Leave That Thing Alone    4:40
 6. The Rhythm Method       7:21
 7. The Trees          5:18
 8. Xanadu          6:39
 9. Hemispheres: Prelude    4:17
10. Tom Sawyer          5:08
11. Force Ten          4:49
12. YYZ   / Cygnus X-1 (Teaser)    5:05

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This show, and this tour, is one of my favorites of all of Rush's tours. This is a crisp and clean soundboard recording with every song from the tour and this show. There's a hefty amount of new material in this show with six of the album's eleven new songs. A lot of great classics return to the set list and find themselves after the drum solo, a place in the set where classic Rush tracks would sit in future tours.

Of the rest of the tracks, we get the three mainstays from RTB, one from Presto, two from HYF (with "Force Ten moving to the end of the show), one from POW, none from GUP, and one from SIG. The remaining 8 tracks pull from MP (3), PEW (1), HEMI (2) and AFTK (2). No tracks before AFTK are present in the set, the only time this has ever happened in a Rush tour set list.

Besides that, what we DO get is pretty good, and this show/performance in particular is pretty fantastic. The band introductions by Lerxst are a hilarious precursor to the "A Lerxst In Wonderland" Rants that he started on the VT tour and continued through the R30 tour. The band is definitely more loose and silly this tour, and you can definitely tell that they're not taking themselves too seriously anymore.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on May 12, 2014, 06:29:55 PM
Saw them 3 times on this tour and loved the interjection of fire which they never had before.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 12, 2014, 08:48:52 PM
"...and the cross of holy fire."

 :hat
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 15, 2014, 01:44:40 PM
Saw them 3 times on this tour and loved the interjection of fire which they never had before.

Wow! I'm jealous! Sadly enough, I was only ten years old when this tour came about and I had never even really known about Rush (which wasn't until high school for me).

Were you surprised by the nearly static set list throughout the whole tour, or were your three shows pretty close range? It seemed up until this tour, they had rotated a few songs between legs, at least, if not on a nightly basis.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 15, 2014, 01:47:35 PM
It was only my 3rd Rush show (after seeing them twice on the Roll the Bones tour), but we had 7th row on Alex's side, and it was awesome.  Plus, I was completely bonkers over Counterparts, so I was thrilled that they played six songs from it.  A friend of ours was bummed that Cut to the Chase wasn't one of them, but given that I figured that the other five CP played songs were all gimmes, I was happy that Double Agent was the sixth, since I love that way more than Cut to the Chase.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 15, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
"Double Agent" is pretty fantastic live, but of the four remaining CP songs that have yet to be played live, "Cut To The Chase" would be my first choice for being pulled out of the live-vault next. It was awesome that they pulled out "Between Sun And Moon" for the Vapor Trails Tour, so there's always hope. I imagine if Rush were pulling out 80's rarities for the last tour as a "let's do this while Geddy can still sing that high" documentation, I wouldn't mind them doing some more unplayed songs from Presto-RTB-CP-TFE.

Those albums have been VERY under-represented over the years, and about half of those songs haven't been played live. Both CP and TFE (to date) have had 7/11 songs played live, while Presto and RTB each have 5 songs unplayed. That's a total of 18 Rush songs out of 43, or about 42% of that era's songs that have never been played.

To put that into perspective with the other eras/sectors:
Sector 1 - 30% unplayed
Sector 2 - 8.7% unplayed
Sector 3 - 17.6% unplayed
Sector 4 - 42% unplayed
Sector 5 - 31.6% unplayed (majority of which comes from Vapor Trails)

It seems to be a crime that so many good songs have not been done live, but I guess it must have come down to A) being too difficult to properly present the songs in a satisfying manner in a live setting OR B) being keen on playing those songs, or if they even sounded good live. Heck, they've said they've tried songs in soundchecks before tour and just dropped them because they weren't feeling them. I just hope that Alex (who seems to be the biggest pusher for rarities) raises awareness for these unplayed gems!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 15, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
They have enough material now to where they shouldn't bother with anything from Test for Echo ever again.

I like Heresy and The Big Wheel quite a bit, but I am not sure either would go over well live.  The other three unplayed RTB songs are unworthy of being played.

Chain Lightning and Available Light would be cool, but both would be difficult to do justice to. 

Anything from CP is fine by me, but I gotta think that if any of those four unplayed songs were ever gonna be played, they would have been by now.

Besides, playing something just so they can say they played a previously-unplayed song is pointless. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: The Letter M on May 15, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
Besides, playing something just so they can say they played a previously-unplayed song is pointless.

I suppose, especially with a catalog as vast and deep as Rush's, but it just feels like a damn shame that they wrote all those songs and when it came time to tour, they somehow deemed them unworthy to perform live, or perhaps they had second thoughts upon them (*cough Tai Shan cough*).

Honestly, though, if any unplayed songs deserve to be brought out, it should be ones from VT, whose tour was more of a "come back tour" and thus, much of the show had to be set aside for classics and hits, with only a scant FIVE new songs (less than the 6 and 7 of the previous two tours).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: KevShmev on May 15, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
Alex said back then that the bulk of the album was unplayable live, likely from being ripe with so many overdubs, but possibly also cause the lyrics are so raw in regards to what Neil went through in the late 90s, that the songs might be too emotional for him/them to play.  It's probably more of the former than the latter, but I can't imagine they couldn't make a song like Vapor Trail work live.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on May 15, 2014, 08:03:33 PM
Saw them 3 times on this tour and loved the interjection of fire which they never had before.

Wow! I'm jealous! Sadly enough, I was only ten years old when this tour came about and I had never even really known about Rush (which wasn't until high school for me).

Were you surprised by the nearly static set list throughout the whole tour, or were your three shows pretty close range? It seemed up until this tour, they had rotated a few songs between legs, at least, if not on a nightly basis.

-Marc.


Cygnus X-1 (Teaser)  was the one part that through me for a loop but I loved hearing the songs from Counterparts.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: jammindude on May 15, 2014, 09:00:48 PM
They have enough material now to where they shouldn't bother with anything from Test for Echo ever again.


This was an album that I wish would have gotten the S&A/CA treatment. Not much I wouldn't give for live versions of Time and Motion or The Color of Right.

TFE is easily my favorite album from "sector 4". None of the others even come close.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: GentlemanofDread on May 17, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
Having just got into Rush, this thread has been a great help at understanding why people love Rush. I'll have more thoughts about the Counterparts tour bootleg when I've listened to it so more, but I think this might be my second favourite Rush tour so far.
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: ytserush on May 24, 2014, 01:52:04 PM
"Double Agent" is pretty fantastic live, but of the four remaining CP songs that have yet to be played live, "Cut To The Chase" would be my first choice for being pulled out of the live-vault next. It was awesome that they pulled out "Between Sun And Moon" for the Vapor Trails Tour, so there's always hope. I imagine if Rush were pulling out 80's rarities for the last tour as a "let's do this while Geddy can still sing that high" documentation, I wouldn't mind them doing some more unplayed songs from Presto-RTB-CP-TFE.

Those albums have been VERY under-represented over the years, and about half of those songs haven't been played live. Both CP and TFE (to date) have had 7/11 songs played live, while Presto and RTB each have 5 songs unplayed. That's a total of 18 Rush songs out of 43, or about 42% of that era's songs that have never been played.

To put that into perspective with the other eras/sectors:
Sector 1 - 30% unplayed
Sector 2 - 8.7% unplayed
Sector 3 - 17.6% unplayed
Sector 4 - 42% unplayed
Sector 5 - 31.6% unplayed (majority of which comes from Vapor Trails)

It seems to be a crime that so many good songs have not been done live, but I guess it must have come down to A) being too difficult to properly present the songs in a satisfying manner in a live setting OR B) being keen on playing those songs, or if they even sounded good live. Heck, they've said they've tried songs in soundchecks before tour and just dropped them because they weren't feeling them. I just hope that Alex (who seems to be the biggest pusher for rarities) raises awareness for these unplayed gems!

-Marc.

Cool breakdown. Never saw the numbers on that before.



This tour begins what I consider to be the golden era of Rush live.  Saw them twice at the Garden, once at the Meadowlands and once in Philly on this tour. Not an extensive tour this time because Geddy wanted to be home for the birth of his daughter.

Lots of incredible shows on this tour though things were a little rusty on the first leg.

That 4/2/94 Wisconsin show is cool but I'm partial to The Detroit, Philly and Toronto shows myself.

Possible my favorite version EVER of Xanadu was played on this tour. It literally sounded like the entire arena was ready to take off during the intro. Hearing Prelude for the the firs time ever was pretty mind blowing to me to as I thought it would never happen.

This is the first tour that the band pulled out at least one very unexpected surprise during the set (I much appreciated tradition that continues to this day)

So many cool things in this set to enjoy.... The country intro to Cold Fire, Nobody's Hero, Animate, The amazing outro in Bravado, Mystic Rhythms making it back into the set, the introductions during Closer To The Heart. LEAVE THAT THIN ALONE!

I thought there would be more available on you tube since this tour had been the most extensively "covered" to date.

But here are a few highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA052A5B08B83DCE0


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL79A7714AEA91E85D


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8035C5A1A637CD89

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxdQPB6LKQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c13uW49EeA0



Oh and for those that complain about Geddy's voice need only to listen to this recording where he was CLEARLY under the weather.

You can't help but suffer along with him on this as it's really that bad. Definitely no highlight, but think of this when you feel like complaining about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJUsF_YC5U
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: ytserush on June 01, 2014, 03:50:15 PM
Forgot to add that this was the first tour that a full dress rehearsal has surfaced.  It's a soundboard, so those that aren't into anything else may like it more.  I always like these kinds of recording because they tend to be very quirky in nature with dropped vocal lines or random banter and such.  It's also pretty cool to hear how locked in the guys are when they aren't really performing for anyone. It's  kind of  "fly on the wall" that way.  Just running through the set and it's still pretty amazing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzGE7gquMRs
Title: Re: Rush Live - Counterparts Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on June 01, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
This tour was the only show out of the 30 I've seen that was on my birthday and it was a Saturday to boot!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Test For Echo Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 02, 2014, 04:38:57 PM
Test For Echo came out September 10th, 1996, and the following month saw the start of the tour on October 19th, with a break between December and May.

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"According to Billboard's Boxscore, Rush performed 47 shows during that tour between October 1996 and July 1997. Seven of those dates-again consisting of arenas and amphitheaters-were sold out. Tickets were in the $40-25 range, with gross ticket sales totaling almost $14 million. Total attendance was recorded at 481,364 people." - Billboard, June 22, 2002

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"No. You can't go back." - Neil Peart (when asked if Rush would ever again play the full version of "2112" in concert), Rush Backstage Club Newsletter, 1988
This was the first time Rush toured without an opening act; with the extra time available, "2112" was performed in its entirety for the first time ever (including 'Oracle'), and the "oldies" medley was dropped in favor of more complete songs. "Natural Science" made a triumphant return after a fifteen year rest.

Bringing back "Natural Science", as well as the first ever complete performances of "2112" was a BIG deal, and I can only imagine the shock and awe Rush fans felt on the night of the first show of the tour in Albany, NY.

The Power Windows website adds the following about the setlist:
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Setlist changes during this tour: "Resist" and "Time and Motion" were both performed for the first two dates only; following these two dates, the band alternated these two songs from one night to the next (and as demonstrated in various recordings, both were introduced with a Scottish reference). After the first ten dates, "Time and Motion" was dropped completely in favor of "Resist" and the setlist remained constant throughout the rest of the tour. The Surfaris' "Wipe Out", last performed during the Presto tour, was brought back for the first leg of this tour as the second half of a medley with "The Big Money", but was eventually dropped from the second leg.

The second leg of the tour varied from the first with the following changes: "The Big Money"/"Wipe Out" was dropped and replaced with "Limelight" and "Stick It Out"; "Subdivisions" was also dropped; "Red Sector A" moved up in the set to follow "Freewill".

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Shared from Nick from is the famous Mansfield, MA show titled "Great Woods And Summer Skies". It's one of the most well known soundboards from the TFE tour, and my pick here for my Complete Tours compilations.
Test For Echo Tour - "Great Woods & Summer Skies" Mansfield, MA on 6/23/97 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1132)
www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1997-06-23.zip

For my mix of this tour, I used the complete bootleg from the above show and tacked on the songs missing from this set on to the end, much like how Rush would later do with future tour releases (Rush In Rio, Snakes & Arrows Tour Live, and the recently release Clockwork Angels Tour).

Rush -  Test For Echo Tour - 177:47
(Live In Mansfield, MA on 6/23/97)
(Great Woods & Summer Skies - SBD)

Disc 1 - 67:22
 1. Thus Spake Zarathustra    1:48
 2. Dreamline          5:06
 3. Limelight          4:26
 4. Stick It Out       4:58
 5. Driven          5:20
 6. Half The World       3:54
 7. Red Barchetta       6:55
 8. Animate          6:55
 9. Limbo          5:24
10. The Trees          5:36
11. Virtuality          6:25
12. Nobody's Hero       5:04
13. Closer To The Heart       5:31

Disc 2 - 63:56
 1. 2112         21:22
 2. Test For Echo       7:12
 3. Freewill          5:37
 4. Red Sector A       5:17
 5. Roll The Bones       6:32
 6. Resist          4:23
 7. Leave That Thing Alone    4:49
 8. The Rhythm Method       8:44

Disc 3 - 29:22 + 17:07 = 46:29
 1. Natural Science       8:14
 2. Force Ten          4:43
 3. The Spirit of Radio       4:55
 4. Tom Sawyer          6:20
 5. YYZ   / Cygnus X-1 (Teaser)    5:10
--------1st Leg Bonus Tracks---------
 6. The Big Money/Wipe Out*    6:21
 7. Subdivisions*       5:45
 8. Time And Motion^       5:01

*(Bigger & Better In Texas SBD)
 (Live In Houston, TX on 12/5/96)
^(An Absolut Rush AUD DAT)
 (Live In Landover, MD on 11/7/96)

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Throughout the course of the tour, between setlist changes and A/B swaps, the band performed 7 new songs out of the 11 from the album. This was on-par with what they did last tour, so it was great that they liked as much of the new material as they did, even if "Time And Motion" got dropped. Of Counterparts, they brought back 4 songs, and from Roll The Bones they played the opener and the title track - nothing from Presto.

Of the remaining 14 songs, half of them came from PEW/MP, four from the remaining 80's albums, and rest from the 70's (being "2112", "The Trees" and "Closer To The Heart", all of which were in the first set, possibly to take advantage of Geddy's voice health in the start of the show).

Over all, this is a fairly balanced tour, especially with the complete "2112" taking up 1/8th of the shows set time. There are plenty of oldies, plenty of newer (and rocking) songs, and a few scattered usuals from the middle eras. Of this show in particular, it's a great live performance from near the end of the tour, being the 8th to last show.  Parts of this show were used to compile tracks for the Rush released Different Stages, so if you haven't heard the WHOLE TFE tour show, here's your chance! This is a great set list and I kind of wished they had just released this whole show, especially since it's got 13 songs from the (then) last three albums.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Test For Echo Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on June 02, 2014, 04:40:31 PM
And this guy was at that show!  6th row in front of Geddy!! :metal
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Test For Echo Tour
Post by: jammindude on June 02, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
Absolutely amazing tour from one of my all-time favorite Rush albums.   

I was 10th row at the George, Washington show.   It was a beautiful night and Rush played against the backdrop of the sun setting on the Columbia Gorge.    It was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. 

Just wish I would've got to see Time and Motion...absolutely freaking AMAZING song. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Test For Echo Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 02, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
Test for Echo tour!!!!!  The dawning of a new era for Rush where they started doing three hour shows.  I'm sure, back then, when Rush announced that they are doing this kind of tour, people wanted 2112 in its entirety and that's what they got and was a cool thing for Rush to do.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Test For Echo Tour
Post by: KevShmev on June 02, 2014, 06:38:47 PM
The fact that they were gonna play all of 2112 was spoiled by a KSHE deejay a day before our concert back in '97, but it was still totally awesome when it happened.  Natural Science was a massive, and more than welcomed, surprise, too.

At the time, I enjoyed Test for Echo quite a bit, so I was fine with them playing six songs from it (THANK GOD they dropped Time and Motion early on, so we didn't have to sit through that abomination).

Also, this was the first tour where Alex Lifeson played the beginning of Closer to the Heart on an electric (using the acoustic pick-up or whatever it is called) instead of the acoustic. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Test For Echo Tour
Post by: ytserush on June 13, 2014, 05:48:16 PM
More later but I saw this tour three times on each leg including my first opening night.

I paid a scalper (for the only time ever) $500 for two fifth row seats at Jones Beach.

Of course now that's pretty much the regular price.

Lots of great shows to experience too.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 14, 2014, 01:58:28 AM
The Vapor Trails Tour began on June 28th and ended on November 23rd of 2002. Over the course of five months straight and 66 shows, they toured across North AND South America. As was the case on the LAST tour, there was no opening act, and instead, the show featured an intermission with video entertainment at the start of both sets. The show grew in terms of video and light production - something that has continued to grow ever since - and the stage itself began to take on some neat changes as well!

The Power Windows website has this to say about this tour:
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For this tour every album was represented except for Caress of Steel and Hold Your Fire. This tour marks the return of "Cygnus X-1" (Prologue) after a twenty-two year rest (not counting the short teaser performed on every tour since '92). In addition, both "Working Man" and "By-Tor and the Snowdog" returned to the setlist after a twenty year rest, "New World Man" returned after a sixteen year rest, while "Closer To The Heart" and "Force Ten" were dropped for the first time since their inceptions (although "CTTH" would be brought back for the final U.S. date as well as the dates in Mexico and Brazil). It is also worth noting that in the tradition of "Witch Hunt", "Between Sun And Moon" was performed live for the first time though it was released eight years before.

Similar to the band introductions given on the Counterparts tour, each night Alex performed a unique rant during "La Villa Strangiato", a practice that would continue through the subsequent R30 tour. The drum solo included a complete triggered big band sample of "One O'Clock Jump", which Neil had performed with the Buddy Rich Band on Burning for Buddy Vol. II. "Resist" was performed acoustically, the first acoustic performance ever to be included in the setlist.

There were a LOT of firsts for this tour, and I think it finally showed us that while the band was growing old, they weren't really "growing up". Alex's silly rants, Neil coming out of his shell a bit, and Geddy hamming it up night-to-night all showed the fans that their favorite band was back, and in top form!

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As this tour was the first of the recent, post-hiatus tours to get a live release after every tour, I've decided not to offer any live material (as will be the case from now on). I will suggest, however, that you seek out the following show for the bonus live track I've tacked on to the end of my re-cut of the officially released live show, Rush In Rio.
Matrix Atlanta 02 - Philips Arena, Atlanta, Georgia on October 13, 2002 (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1781)

Rush - Rush In Rio - 176:17
(Live In Rio De Jinero, Brazil)
Complete Show + 3 Bonus Tracks

Disc 1 - 69:38 (As Is)
 1. Tom Sawyer           5:10
 2. Distant Early Warning     4:48
 3. New World Man        4:03
 4. Roll The Bones        6:03
 5. Earthshine           5:42
 6. YYZ           4:35
 7. The Pass           4:50
 8. Bravado           6:15
 9. The Big Money        5:58
10. The Trees           5:07
11. Freewill           5:32
12. Closer To The Heart     3:01
13. Natural Science        8:34

Disc 2 - 51:10
 1. One Little Victory        5:32
 2. Driven           5:05
 3. Ghost Rider        5:36
 4. Secret Touch        7:00
 5. Dreamline           5:04
 6. Red Sector A        5:12
 7. Leave That Thing Alone!     4:59
 8. O Baterista (Drum Solo)    8:18
 9. Resist           4:24

Disc 3 - 40:24 + 15:06 = 55:29
 1. 2112 (I - II)       6:50
 2. Limelight           4:25
 3. La Villa Strangiato    10:05
 4. The Spirit Of Radio     5:29
 5. By-Tor And The Snowdog     4:35
 6. Cygnus X-1 (Prologue)     3:12
 7. Working Man        5:48
--------(The Board Bootlegs)---------
 8. Between Sun & Moon (Bonus)    4:44
 9. Vital Signs (Bonus)       4:48
10. Ceiling Unlimited*       5:34

*Sourced from:
(Live In Atlanta, GA on 10/13/02)

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For this tour, I used the already mostly-complete release of Rush In Rio. I say "mostly-complete" because for SOME reason, they never gave us a live version of "Ceiling Unlimited", a NEW song from their NEW album! I always thought it was a shame that they neglected that song as much as they already did, having alternated it with "Ghost Rider" until the last month of the tour, where it was dropped completely in favor for "Ghost Rider". Don't get me wrong, I love "Ghost Rider", but the least they could have done was given "Ceiling Unlimited" to us as a bonus track like they did for the OTHER alternate songs, "Between Sun & Moon" and "Vital Signs", the former of which was played for the FIRST time this tour, and the latter of which returns from a 10-year rest (last seen on the RTB tour).

One other note about my re-cut of this show is that I moved "2112" to start the third disc. This was to place all of their older material all on one disc, opening with the first two parts of the epic "2112" and going through more tunes from their first 8 albums. On this tour and the next, they shifted their older material towards the end of the show, so I saw it fit to move "2112" to open the third disc. It also evened out discs 2 and 3 a bit as well.

For this tour, the band decided to bring back some classics and even out the set a bit. This is evident in the fact that ONLY FIVE NEW SONGS were played!! That's less than 45%, a ratio that had never occurred before now. The usual percentage of new songs played live was usually around half, but this time, it was only 5 out of 13, or only 38%! And this isn't counting the fact that GR and CU were alternated for most of the tour! The rest of the show contains 13 songs from the first 8 albums, with the bulk of them at the end of each set (14 if you count the "Vital Signs" bonus track), 4 songs from the Synth-Era/Sector Three, and 8 songs from Sector Four (or the Atlantic albums). That's not bad, with half the songs covering the first half of their career (Rush-MP), the other half from their latter portion of their career (SIG-TFE).

It's a good mix, certainly, although I would've swapped one or two songs out for others, but given this was a mass-appeal "come back tour", they needed some hits and singles that everyone would know. In fact, the first set includes ALL singles with the exceptions of "Natural Science", "Earthshine" and "YYZ" (as well as the alternate track "Between Sun And Moon"). Heck, even in the 2nd set between "One Little Victory" and "The Spirit Of Radio", those are all singles as well with the only exceptions being "Ghost Rider" (and "Ceiling Unlimited"), "Leave That Thing Alone!" and "La Villa Strangiato" (although their instrumentals were never really meant to be singles to begin with). So out of the 31 songs performed this tour, about 1/3 of them are NOT singles. That's pretty astounding, especially considering what we've gotten in the tours SINCE then!

As for this show itself - well, if you're a Rush fan, chances are you've already listened to this show...a lot...many times, in fact, and I'm sure I don't have to say much about it. I'm sure many fans were NOT expecting a live album from this tour, instead expecting Rush to continue their "Four studio albums, One live album" routine they started awhile back, but this was not the case! To document what would become their "Come Back tour" (from an indefinite hiatus), they celebrated with this release! This show the last of the tour, and featured their 2nd largest audience (with 40,000 people!) during their first time in Brazil!

The show is full of energy, with both the band and the crowd helping to bring Rush music alive! One of the most well-known moments is hearing the storming crowd sing along to the instrumental "YYZ", which is a highlight of this show for me. There's so many great moments on here, especially the Lerxst Rant (which happened throughout the VT Tour, and even continued on the following R30 Tour), the beautiful 1-2 Punch of "The Pass" and "Bravado", and the acoustic rendition of "Resist". This is such a good show, and while the overactive audience might put off some fans, I think it adds to such a historically significant show and live release. As if the album Vapor Trails wasn't enough of a loud come back, this live album is a testament to the ever-growing and expanding live-force that is Rush!

...whew. That was a lot to type. Time for bed! Four AM is pretty late...lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on June 14, 2014, 04:56:41 AM
I was lucky enough to see them on the opening night of the tour in Hartford.  it was a special night and very emotional.  We were lucky to see them play Between Sun And Moon.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: KevShmev on June 14, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
I've seen the band 11 times, and I can safely say that the show I saw on the Vapor Trails is the best one I've seen. In fact, it's probably my number 2 concert ever (behind when I saw Pink Floyd at Arrowhead Stadium in '94).  The combination of it being the first time seeing them in five years with the magnificent set list just made it absolutely perfect.  And it was a gorgeous August night, too.  Hard to believe it's been almost 12 years.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: Big Hath on June 14, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
my first Rush show!  Saw them on the fifth date of the tour - July 4 in Raleigh, NC.  I was so hyped to go to this show.  Terrific setlist!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: ytserush on June 14, 2014, 09:28:55 PM
Still on the Test For Echo Tour  (Vapor Trails will come later)



My first time at an opening night was pretty amazing. The band wasn't quite up to snuff, but there is always a lot of love from the fans on opening night as it seems to be a traveling show.

The highlight of the whole set for me is Resist-Leave That Thing Alone-Neil solo and Natural Science. That's one of my favorite four  Rush song live runs of all-time.

One of my favorite memories is seeing Dream Theater Dec. 14 of that year and seeing Rush the following night. I had a shirt made up for that one.

This tour is pretty much the prototype to what the Rush show is today. This is the tour where they finally decided to just be themselves and have as much fun as possible.


Also by this point I'd already been pretty sick of Closer to The Heart for some time, but the jam at the end easily makes this my favorite version ever. I think it's actually one of the best live moments in Rush's extensive history.

I'm not 100 percent positive, but I think this might be the first tour that every show was recorded by someone.

There are plenty of great shows on either leg although I prefer the second leg because it was outdoors and they seemed to firing on all cylinders a little more consistently.  I do think the first set is the better set though.

There is also another dress rehearsal floating around that is really cool to listen to.

And you have opening night here: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZC8mC83cXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozvutM9M3hQ



This of course is one of the better shows from Landover, Md. 11/7/96

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlrJW1nBNZs




As far as the second leg goes, this is the show that most of Different Stages is taken from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51l_GpkSZlg

The last several shows from the leg in Canada are pretty fantastic too including the one from Toronto that was supposed to become a live DVD before syncing problems ruined it.


Kinda surprised not a lot of this is up on you tube but it's been documented.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on June 15, 2014, 05:07:45 AM
Man, how did I miss commenting on all these!?!?!?

Presto Tour... I just missed this one.  I had just become a serious Rush fan with the release of Chronicles, so the Toronto show was already sold out by the time I realized I'd want to see them.  Financial and work circumstances prevented me from going to the show anyway.   >:(

RTB Tour... I'll echo Kev's post.

My first Rush tour.  Looking at the set list, it's not hard to imagine ways to have improved it (the Xanadu/Superconductor segue is still the biggest WTF in Rush live history), but at the time, as someone who had literally just gotten into the band over the previous two months, the show I saw was, at the time, the greatest thing ever. :coolio

I was back in high school, and decided to fuck off for the day with my buddy in preparation for the show.  We got baked all day long, listening to All the World's, Exit... , and A Show of Hands.  Knowing that Xanadu had this bitching laser light show, and it being my favorite song, we saved this 'Cheech-and-Chong' sized reefer.  When the lights went down, and the synth kicked in, we lit the fucker up!  I remember thinking the guitar intro of Limelight was the loudest fucking thing I'd ever heard in my life to that point.  Being higher than a kite probably had something to do with that.

CP tour... the only one I've missed.  I was in Uni, and had neither the ability or finances to get down to Maple Leaf Gardens for the show.  :sadpanda:

TFE tour... saw them 3 times that show.  Me and a couple of buddies drove down to Buffalo to see them at the Aud.  Traded in our 8th row seats at the back for like 25th row floor.  Bad f'n idea.  Couldn't really see shit.  But hearing 2112 complete made it worthwhile.  They really hyped the return of 2112 and Natural Science for that tour.  Also had 8th row floor at the Molson Amphitheater (Alex side), which is an outdoor venue in Toronto.  THAT was an amazing show.

VP tour... I honestly don't remember this one, but remember I was absolutely thrilled they were back together touring.  Rush in Rio is possibly one of the greatest visuals.  I absolutely love the intensity and passion of the fans.  Gives me chills everytime I watch it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 18, 2014, 08:13:09 AM
Great stories from everyone! I'm enjoying reading these! Keep them up! :tup

As for me, well Rush In Rio was the band's first real new release that came out after I became a huge fan of their work. I had gotten Vapor Trails not too long after it came out in 2002, and I wasn't really paying TOO much attention to the band until 2003. I had bought the CD version of RIR at my local Target, but didn't have the money for the DVD. Luckily, my dad got it for me that Christmas, so I had the whole set of CD and DVD! My Rush collection began growing! I think by March or so of 2004 I had every Rush CD up to that point. Hard to believe it's been over 10 years since then!

Anyways, I'll probably be posting about the R30 tour in the next couple of days, so this is the last bump for anyone who wants to catch up and talk about the VT Tour!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Vapor Trails Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 20, 2014, 11:38:16 PM
The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour began on May 26th and ended on October 1st of 2004. The two-leg tour took them through North America and Europe over 58 shows, visiting many places they hadn't on the last tour, especially in Europe.

The Power Windows website has this to say about this tour:
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The setlist remained the same throughout the tour, the first time this had occured since the Hold Your Fire tour. Every album except Presto was represented, although a snippet of "Scars" remains as part of Neil's drum solo. This tour included an all new six song instrumental medley titled "R30 Overture" with each segment lasting approximately 1-1:30. These first six songs, and the following complete seventh song, are from the first seven albums played in chronological order. Counting "R30 Overture" as one song, there were 30 songs played.

"Animate" was slightly rearranged for this tour: in the studio version the opening chorus is sung in full; for the R30 version the chorus is broken up such that the first half is sung at the beginning of the song and the second half after the first verse (it is sung in full after the fourth verse). "Red Barchetta" was the original arrangement, versus the psuedo-pop version toured in the 90's. "Between The Wheels" was played for the first time since the Power Windows warm-up tour.

For the first time ever, "Grand Finale" was added to the "2112 Overture/Temples Of Syrinx" medley and "Working Man" concluded with a reggae ending (similar but unique to the reggae intro to "Working Man" which was last played during the Moving Pictures tour). The drum solo was similar to that of the previous tour in that it included the triggered big band sample of "One O'clock Jump", which Neil performed with the Buddy Rich Band on Burning for Buddy Vol. II. It it worth noting that this is the tour which included "Roll The Bones".

Continuing the practice begun on the Vapor Trails tour, each night Alex performed a unique "rant" during "La Villa Strangiato", and at the end of "The Trees" he played a bit of The Beatles' "I Feel Fine" followed by "Day Tripper" (in 1990, when asked what songs inspired him to play guitar, he began with "Well, I remember hearing the beginning of 'I Feel Fine' by the Beatles. There's a little bit of feedback that rings out in the beginning, and I thought that was the coolest thing I've ever heard! Also the riff to 'Day Tripper'..." - Guitar School, May 1990, Vol. 2, No. 3, pp. 20-24). Click here for additional comments regarding the setlist.

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The original R30 box set included the audio of the DVDs on 2CDs. However, this was NOT the full show. Eight songs were excluded because they were repeats of songs from their last live album, Rush In Rio. Because of this, a later Blu-Ray was released with the FULL show intact. My 3CD set of this tour is the audio from that release, and as such, is the complete performance. It also helps to match with the previous two 3CD sets (TFE and VT Tours), and the future sets as well (S&A, TM, and CA Tours). As for alternatives to the official audio of this tour, there are PLENTY of good bootlegs out there, but I cannot recall any to recommend at this moment. Maybe YOU guys can help with that?

Rush - R30 - 173:10
(Live In Frankfurt, Germany)
Complete Show

Disc 1 - 73:54
 1. R30 Overture       6:44
 2. The Spirit Of Radio     5:05
 3. Force Ten           4:50
 4. Animate           5:57
 5. Subdivisions        6:07
 6. Earthshine          5:45
 7. Red Barchetta        6:55
 8. Roll The Bones        6:04
 9. Bravado           6:11
10. YYZ           4:44
11. The Trees           5:27
12. The Seeker           3:32
13. One Little Victory        6:33

Disc 2 - 50:32
 1. Tom Sawyer           5:03
 2. Dreamline           5:12
 3. Secret Touch        7:18
 4. Between The Wheels        6:00
 5. Mystic Rhythms        5:29
 6. Red Sector A        5:09
 7. Der Trommler (Drum Solo)     9:01
 8. Resist          4:33
 9. Heart Full Of Soul       2:47

Disc 3 - 48:44
 1. 2112 (I - II - VII)       8:15
 2. La Villa Strangiato     9:23
 3. By-Tor And The Snowdog     4:33
 4. Xanadu           6:59
 5. Working Man        6:51
 6. Summertime Blues        3:42
 7. Crossroads           3:14
 8. Limelight          5:47

Note - with the whole show, the third disc now closely resembles the third disc from the LAST tour! In fact there are five songs that are the same: "2112" (well, now with the "Grand Finale"), "La Villa Strangiato" (still with the Lerxst rants!), "By-Tor And The Snowdog", "Working Man" and "Limelight". With the addition of "Xanadu", the first five tracks on this disc all come from the band's 70's/first six albums, and also represent one song each from those six albums with the exception of Caress Of Steel (which is a great way to mirror the opening "R30 Overture", which features the first six albums in order at the start of the show).

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OKAY...so I had a HUGE post I was typing before and I accidentally backed out of the reply and lost it all, so this will be brief before I go to bed.

This is a great show, and no matter what haters say, I enjoy it a lot. It's a very even set, it has a LOT of great song choices and swap-outs from the previous tour: "Subdivisions" joins the set in place of "New World Man", "Between The Wheels" instead of "Distant Early Warning",  "Mystic Rhythms" for "The Big Money" (haha, the last two from GUP and POW were openers swapped for closers), "Animate" instead of "Leave That Thing Alone!"/"Between Sun And Moon", and "Xanadu" for "Closer To The Heart". I do miss more of PEW, though, with "The Spirit Of Radio" being it's only representative.

And speaking of album representatives, every studio album and their new EP all have at LEAST one song performed...except Presto. Poor, poor Presto. Such little love, but at least your title track will get played in a couple tours, right?

The performance itself is pretty solid considering it was recorded on their fifth-to-last show of the whole tour! This is a good audience, and the recording is just right for those who felt the Brazilian audience was mixed a bit too loud on the last live album. I really enjoy Neil's drum solo here, and it was the culmination of a solo he had been working on since the 80's. Everything he wanted and had been working on is in here and it was the best it was going to be before he would tear it all down and start from scratch (as we'll see next tour).

I remember getting their covers EP and being mildly excited about it, but that excitement wore off quick. As this tour was their first one after I became a huge fan, I had hoped to be able to watch them, but I never had the time or money. Instead, I resorted to joining DIME and waiting for countless bootlegs of the tour! I remember getting one of the opening night titled 30 Years Strong (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=946) and loving it. I must have listened to it for weeks. I got another one later one titled Penultimate R30 At The Globe (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1627), which was taken from the second-to-last show of the tour, and was pretty damn good audience recording! I listened to that for months until the official R30 show came out, although I was greatly disappointed that it wasn't the whole show! I wanted my 3-hour, 3CD Rush experience! Thankfully I am now able to enjoy it!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: KevShmev on June 21, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
It kind of goes without saying that I have loved every Rush tour I have seen, so saying it again is kind of pointing out the obvious. :lol

In a vacuum, this set list is beastly despite the presence of some covers, but I get why some say it is their least special of the 21st century, considering the only Rush songs you get here that you won't find on any other 21st century tour are Animate (which wasn't that good cause they played it slower than normal, which took away some of the aggressive drive of the song, and not doing the full chorus each time was a big mistake), Mystic Rhythms and the abbreviated Xanadu (can they please play this in full ONCE again before they retire??).

All of that aside, I did see the full concert on a friend's Blu-ray a few months back and it was definitely most awesome.  They were absolutely on fire at that show.  :metal
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 21, 2014, 12:14:30 AM
In a vacuum, this set list is beastly despite the presence of some covers, but I get why some say it is their least special of the 21st century, considering the only Rush songs you get here that you won't find on any other 21st century tour are Animate (which wasn't that good cause they played it slower than normal, which took away some of the aggressive drive of the song, and not doing the full chorus each time was a big mistake), Mystic Rhythms and the abbreviated Xanadu (can they please play this in full ONCE again before they retire??).

Hmm, I had not thought about it that way, but you're right. Only those 3 songs, plus the R30 Overture, are the only unique songs to this set list from the recent tours. As for Xanadu, I doubt they'll ever play the whole thing ever again. Same goes for songs like "Working Man" (which has been slightly truncated for many years), "By-Tor & The Snow Dog", "Cygnus X-1" (either Book), "2112", or "Natural Science". It just seems like their longer songs won't ever get the full treatment ever again, especially as the band ages and it becomes increasingly difficult for them to play their older stuff, well, mostly Geddy and his voice.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2014, 05:38:01 AM
Good show and DVD.  I wasn't a fan of their covers album at all, but recognize why they did it.  But for me, it (having followed a sub-par album in VT) signaled the decline/end of Rush as I knew them.  Thankfully, time proved me wrong.  This show is also marred by the fact I took my brother with me to see them, in a last ditch effort to reconnect with him (we'd been disenchanted for quite a few years).  Alas, it never went anywhere.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: KevShmev on June 21, 2014, 08:37:23 AM
In a vacuum, this set list is beastly despite the presence of some covers, but I get why some say it is their least special of the 21st century, considering the only Rush songs you get here that you won't find on any other 21st century tour are Animate (which wasn't that good cause they played it slower than normal, which took away some of the aggressive drive of the song, and not doing the full chorus each time was a big mistake), Mystic Rhythms and the abbreviated Xanadu (can they please play this in full ONCE again before they retire??).

Hmm, I had not thought about it that way, but you're right. Only those 3 songs, plus the R30 Overture, are the only unique songs to this set list from the recent tours. As for Xanadu, I doubt they'll ever play the whole thing ever again. Same goes for songs like "Working Man" (which has been slightly truncated for many years), "By-Tor & The Snow Dog", "Cygnus X-1" (either Book), "2112", or "Natural Science". It just seems like their longer songs won't ever get the full treatment ever again, especially as the band ages and it becomes increasingly difficult for them to play their older stuff, well, mostly Geddy and his voice.

I have been pretty outspoken about how much Geddy's live vocals have dropped off recently, and while it's true that many of those 70s songs are unplayable for that very reason (Geddy simply cannot sing them), Xanadu is mostly instrumental, and I'd take him struggling through some of the challenging vocal parts if I got to see and hear the rest of the full song. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 21, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
In a vacuum, this set list is beastly despite the presence of some covers, but I get why some say it is their least special of the 21st century, considering the only Rush songs you get here that you won't find on any other 21st century tour are Animate (which wasn't that good cause they played it slower than normal, which took away some of the aggressive drive of the song, and not doing the full chorus each time was a big mistake), Mystic Rhythms and the abbreviated Xanadu (can they please play this in full ONCE again before they retire??).

Hmm, I had not thought about it that way, but you're right. Only those 3 songs, plus the R30 Overture, are the only unique songs to this set list from the recent tours. As for Xanadu, I doubt they'll ever play the whole thing ever again. Same goes for songs like "Working Man" (which has been slightly truncated for many years), "By-Tor & The Snow Dog", "Cygnus X-1" (either Book), "2112", or "Natural Science". It just seems like their longer songs won't ever get the full treatment ever again, especially as the band ages and it becomes increasingly difficult for them to play their older stuff, well, mostly Geddy and his voice.

I have been pretty outspoken about how much Geddy's live vocals have dropped off recently, and while it's true that many of those 70s songs are unplayable for that very reason (Geddy simply cannot sing them), Xanadu is mostly instrumental, and I'd take him struggling through some of the challenging vocal parts if I got to see and hear the rest of the full song.

Fair enough, and I think he'd have a better chance at singing the entirety of "Xanadu" than, say, "Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage" or even parts of "Hemispheres" or "2112". Maybe we will, maybe we won't, but at the rate they're going, they're more likely to pull out more 80's and 90's tracks.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
In a vacuum, this set list is beastly despite the presence of some covers, but I get why some say it is their least special of the 21st century, considering the only Rush songs you get here that you won't find on any other 21st century tour are Animate (which wasn't that good cause they played it slower than normal, which took away some of the aggressive drive of the song, and not doing the full chorus each time was a big mistake), Mystic Rhythms and the abbreviated Xanadu (can they please play this in full ONCE again before they retire??).

Hmm, I had not thought about it that way, but you're right. Only those 3 songs, plus the R30 Overture, are the only unique songs to this set list from the recent tours. As for Xanadu, I doubt they'll ever play the whole thing ever again. Same goes for songs like "Working Man" (which has been slightly truncated for many years), "By-Tor & The Snow Dog", "Cygnus X-1" (either Book), "2112", or "Natural Science". It just seems like their longer songs won't ever get the full treatment ever again, especially as the band ages and it becomes increasingly difficult for them to play their older stuff, well, mostly Geddy and his voice.

I have been pretty outspoken about how much Geddy's live vocals have dropped off recently, and while it's true that many of those 70s songs are unplayable for that very reason (Geddy simply cannot sing them), Xanadu is mostly instrumental, and I'd take him struggling through some of the challenging vocal parts if I got to see and hear the rest of the full song.

My feelings exactly.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 21, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
What I enjoyed a lot in R30 during 2112 was when Geddy was dropping pirate references and I think he had a parrot on his shoulder.  I thought it was cool. 

As for the set from what I saw in the DVD, I dug the R30 Overture.  Xanadu (even though it was the shorten version) was brought back which was nice.  I liked Summertime Blues. 

Other than that, some of the non-big songs were played from the last tour (hence the whole removing some of the songs in the main DVD).  Though, it was not a problem for Europe since they hadn't had the chance to see Rush in over a decade back then, and the 1st time to see them in the "An Evening With" format.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 25, 2014, 10:27:21 AM
What I enjoyed a lot in R30 during 2112 was when Geddy was dropping pirate references and I think he had a parrot on his shoulder.  I thought it was cool.

I really liked the pirate-themed stuff in "2112" as well! It reminds me of when they did similar stuff to "2112" and "The Spirit Of Radio" on the Signals Tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: ytserush on June 25, 2014, 05:17:43 PM



The Vapor Trails Tour is one of my favorite Rush tours ever.

Being in Hartford that year was one of the highlights of my life. I'll never forget it.  Saw them six times on that tour three. on the outdoor leg and three on the indoor leg (indoor leg set was slightly better)

For some reason there doesn't seem to be much on you tube for this tour although it's been pretty well documented.

Here's a clip that from that Hartford show that I think was on the website at some point. (Brings back a lot of great memories)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyYj9lo3IgU


And the July 4 Raleigh show....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njYkNz27VdI

Admittedly, Rush in Rio  (The DVD...CD is quite another story) is probably the go-to DVD in this case.  It"s just an amazing historical document and anyone who has seen it knows why.


Rush played a one-off gig at the SarsStock Festival in 2003. I thought the full show was up but this was all I could find. Interesting to contrast Rio with this one for a number of reasons.



https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm2_gbcEI1bFh9OL-rr11ifLAXp6K6YK7
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R30: 30th Anniversary Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on June 25, 2014, 05:20:54 PM
That Hartford show was glorious.  We tailgated all day and when we walked around there was nothing but battle Rush songs from car to car.  Then the emotional return of Neil.  I have fond memories of that night.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 27, 2014, 01:22:00 AM
The Snakes & Arrows Tour began June 13 and went to Oct. 29, for the FIRST leg. For the first time in awhile, they tours TWO major legs of the tour and not a straight shot of 4-6 months. In between legs, they released the the Snakes & Arrows Live album, recorded from their Rotterdam shows, their 8th and 7th to last shows on the first leg.

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"The [Snakes & Arrows Live] CD came out just prior to us going back out on the road - it gave us a little boost I think, in terms of making everybody aware that we were going back out for the second half of the tour." - Alex Lifeson, UGO.com, December 11, 2008

After the break, they went back out on the road from April 11 to July 24 the following year. The Atlanta show (the second to last of the tour) was also recorded for some of the 2nd-Leg-Only tracks that appear on the DVD.

The Power Windows website has this to say about this tour:

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For this tour 9 of the 13 tracks from the new album were played live, and the largest percentage of new songs performed in support of an album since the Power Windows tour. The setlists for this tour were quite a bit more varied than recent tours: "Entre Nous" was played live for the first time ever; "Circumstances" [tuned down a full step] was not played since the Hemispheres tour; "A Passage To Bangkok" in its entirety for the first time since the Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures warm up tour; "Digital Man" [with a new arrangement] since the Grace Under Pressure warm-up tour; "Witch Hunt" since the Power Windows tour; "Mission" since the Presto tour; and "One O'Clock Jump" was replaced by "Cotton Tail" as the drum solo finale, performed by Neil with the Buddy Rich Band on Burning for Buddy Vol. I. Unfortunately both "Entre Nous" and "Circumstances" were replaced by newer, less obscure songs for the second leg.

It is also worthy to note that "Roll The Bones" was dropped for the first time ever. Keeping score on the songs played: only 6 songs were played from albums released between Moving Pictures and Vapor Trails (only one from the 90's, and one from the 80's was only performed for less than half of the tour dates); not including the drum solo, of the 27 songs played, 17 were from PeW, MP or SA - roughly 2/3 of the concert (2/3 of the entire Permanent Waves album was included). It also is worth mentioning that between the last three tours, Rush played 6/7ths of Moving Pictures live; "The Camera Eye" being the notable exception.

Setlist changes during this tour: for the first leg, with few exceptions, "Summertime Blues" alternated with "Distant Early Warning" after DEW was first performed on July 4th; both songs were replaced by "2112 Overture/Temples Of Syrinx" for the second leg although the "2112 medley" followed "The Spirit Of Radio" rather than preceding it. With the return of the "2112" medley in the second leg setlist, the Counterparts tour remains the only tour to not include any part of "2112" in the setlist. Other changes for the second leg: "Ghost Of A Chance" replaced "Entre Nous"; "Red Barchetta" replaced "Secret Touch"; and "The Trees" replaced "Circumstances".

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This tour once again had an officially record and released live video and album. Because of this, I used the whole Rotterdam show and tacked on the "Oh, Atlanta! The Authorized Bootlegs" from the DVD onto the end of the album, much in the same way I did with Rush In Rio (which had 2 official soundboard songs already) and my Test For Echo Tour complete show. Fortunately, the powers that  be provided ALL the alternate tracks save for "Summertime Blues" (which is not well-missed, personally), so we have a fairly complete documentation of ALL (but one) of the songs featured on this tour!

For my personal Complete Tours remix, I shuffled the track list a bit, and in turn puts the drum solo at/near the end of the second disc (where it sat for TFE, VT and the R30 tours. Weird how it lands there...)

Rush - Snakes & Arrows Live - 179:45
(Live In Rotterdam & Atlanta, GA)
Complete Show + 2nd Leg Tracks

Disc 1 - 62:18
 1. Limelight          4:48
 2. Digital Man          6:57
 3. Entre Nous          5:18
 4. Mission          5:39
 5. Freewill          6:02
 6. The Main Monkey Business    6:06
 7. The Larger Bowl       4:21
 8. Secret Touch       7:45
 9. Circumstances       3:47
10. Between The Wheels       6:01
11. Dreamline          5:34

Disc 2 - 58:38
 1. Far Cry          5:20
 2. Workin' Them Angels       4:49
 3. Armor And Sword       6:37
 4. Spindrift          5:41
 5. The Way The Wind Blows    6:24
 6. Subdivisions       5:43
 7. Natural Science       8:34
 8. Witch Hunt          4:49
 9. Malignant Narcissism    2:24
10. De Slagwerker (Drum Solo)    8:17

Disc 3 - 58:22
 1. Hope          2:21
 2. Distant Early Warning    4:54
 3. The Spirit Of Radio       5:03
 4. Tom Sawyer          5:49
 5. One Little Victory       5:27
 6. A Passage To Bangkok    3:57
 7. YYZ             5:17
-----(Oh, Atlanta! Bonus Tracks)-----
 8. Ghost Of A Chance        6:09
 9. Red Barchetta        6:43
10. The Trees           5:54
11. 2112 (I - II)       6:48

Missing:
Summertime Blues - alternated with
Distant Early Warning on 1st Leg

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This was quite a doozy of a "new" set list. Some songs were swapped out from the last two tours, some were brought back from the VT tour, but most astonishing of all was the fact that they performed NINE out of their thirteen new songs! Not since Power Windows had that much of an album been played live! Split between the two sets, these nine new songs made up a THIRD of each night's show (27 songs each night, excluding the drum solo). Of the remaining two thirds of the show, we got FOUR songs from PEW and, on the 2nd leg, 5 songs from MP. They may as well have played all three albums (PEW, MP and S&A) in their entirety at that rate! (I wish...but could you imagine?! They'd have done it before YES would...)

This tour has a lot of exciting songs on it, with "Circumstances" and "Digital Man" making huge comebacks, the first-ever performances of "Entre Nous" and the return of "Witch Hunt" AND "Natural Science". Lots of stuff from PEW-onward to enjoy, but little-to-no material post GUP, and with only two songs from VT (with "Secret Touch" getting dropped in the 2nd leg).

As for this particular show itself, the Rotterdam show is pretty good, especially being near the end of the first leg. After nearly 5 months of touring, they had everything down and this was a pretty damn good performance. It's been a little while since I've listened to this whole show, but I recall enjoying almost every song, even if Geddy's voice was beginning to decline, he definitely belted out "Circumstances" for this recorded show. Neil's drum solo was, as usual, very good, and his new elements made his solo fresh and exciting for me. About half of it was "new" to the audience, with a good bit of shuffling around; we got a new version of "Momo's Dance Party", followed by a zen-sounding waltz, and a new jazz tune at the end. And the one-two-punch of "Natural Science" into "Witch Hunt" is just gold.

The Atlanta tracks are great, too, even if the only unique song is "Ghost Of A Chance", another surprise from this tour. Odd how this tour began at Atlanta (of which I had the opening night bootleg of titled "Overnight Delivery" (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1835)) and would have ended at Atlanta, although a rescheduled Indiana show forced them to end the tour there instead.

This was a welcome and fresh show, with new songs and great set list choices. They kept it interesting, and the change from R30 to this tour was a lot more jarring, yet intriguing than the ones they made from VT to R30. They played TEN fresh songs not played on the previous tour (excluding S&A songs of course): Digital Man, Entre Nous, Freewill, Mission, Circumstances, Natural Science, Witch Hunt, Distant Early Warning, Ghost Of A Chance, and A Passage To Bangkok (in full!)...and of those, all but 3 haven't been played in a VERY long time! Bravo, Rush, but being even MORE daring on this tour!!!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: McNugg on June 27, 2014, 03:22:26 AM
Brilliant tour with a brilliant setlist.  Holds great memories for me as it was the first time I went to see Rush live.  Geddy was on top of his game for most of the tour too.  (Amazing performance in Circumstances)  The live DVD doesn't do the tour justice IMO, sounds far better on many bootlegs.

Here is one such show thanks to the wonders of the Youtubes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wZkvoLKwDk&t=0h00m00s
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: ytserush on June 29, 2014, 10:50:56 AM
The R30 tour is my least favorite of the "Evening With" era.  While there were a few gems in the set, Between The Wheels being one, it was mostly standard faire.   I also think the encore was the worst set they've ever done although I kind of understand why it was done that way.

Even the DVD itself is my least favorite (the concert part not the bonuses.)  I've not seen the complete concert released on Blu-ray so maybe that would change my mind, but I think most of the performance were not to the high inspired Rush standard.  (Although the versions of Red Barchetta and Secret Touch may be the best live versions commercially available.

Only made it to two shows that year because I wasn't that fond of the set. Thought long and hard about going to the two night stand at Radio City, since the last time the band played there had been 21 years ago, but couldn't justify it.

By that point, I'd all but sworn off going to the the trap formerly known as the Garden State Arts Center for concerts, but the 8/14/04 date was just too cool to pass up as it was the bands actually 30th anniversary although it was not publically acknowledged that night. So that was a pretty special night too.

Camden was awesome too, but for different reasons. It was brutally hot that night but the sky opened up just after Geddy sang "And if the music stops, there's only the sound of the rain" during Bravado.


The pirate stuff was really cool to. It's always fun to see what develops over the course of a tour.




I actually prefer this Radio City show over the DVD. There is a second night from Radio City around somewhere, but I guess that never made it to you tube.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD6852A3D0998D91D
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: KevShmev on June 29, 2014, 12:18:52 PM
The S&A set list was quite a shock at the time, what with all those songs either being brought back or played for the first time.  On the other hand, it just figures that that is the one time our cousin John went with us to see Rush and they didn't play 2112 or La Villa Strangiato. :facepalm:

But anyway, while daring of them to play five straight songs from S&A, it was kind of a killjoy for the crowd to have that many new songs in a row to kick off the 2nd set.  By the 4th song, on both legs, the crowd was getting restless for something more familiar.  And One Little Victory as an encore ranks as one of their biggest WTFs ever.  But the rest of the set list was just so damn money. :coolio

Also, IIRC, this was the first Rush tour ever where the first song they played was not a Track 1.  Seems crazy to think that it took that long for that to happen, but it's true.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: jammindude on June 29, 2014, 12:24:37 PM
S&A was seriously my favorite Rush tour EVER until the new CA tour.

Even though I defy the label "hipster"...that side of me rears its head full force when I talk about this tour.   This tour was a giant raspberry to the "fair weather" fans and a big giant wet kiss for the fanboys who has stuck with them and were still there.   

Screw the people who sat down for the first 5 songs of the second set.   I was singing along word for word and on my feet for every single one.    For me, this was the tour that permanently established Rush as a band that was not going to rest on past glories....and that is why they ultimately released one of their greatest albums 40 years into their career...something I don't believe any other rock band has ever done. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: The Letter M on June 29, 2014, 01:02:06 PM
Also, IIRC, this was the first Rush tour ever where the first song they played was not a Track 1.  Seems crazy to think that it took that long for that to happen, but it's true.

Wow, I believe you're right! I never realized or noticed that. It's also funny to note that they opened this tour's set with the song they used to close last tour's set! It always seems that set openers, closers, and encores have a way of jumping around: The Spirit Of Radio, Tom Sawyer, YYZ, Limelight, One Little Victory, Working Man, La Villa Strangiato. They're always one of those kinds of songs that just feels right to open or close a set/show, or be used in an encore.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on June 29, 2014, 07:37:07 PM
Saw both ends of this tour... outdoors for one, indoor for the 2nd.  Both were great.  Was relieved with the release of S&A that Rush was 'back' after the cover album, and the not-so-well-received VT.  Shame it would take another 5 years to get another release... thankfully they kept touring though.  Like Jammin said, I loved that this tour started to go a little obscure, and in full support of S&A.  This is the tour where I remember them really getting creative with their intros and outro's.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on June 29, 2014, 07:41:15 PM
Everything was epic about this tour except OLV as an encore.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on June 29, 2014, 07:59:18 PM
I think, for me, that Snakes and Arrows DVD release is my favorite out of the bunch (Rush in Rio and Clockwork Angels Tour are 2nds).  I enjoyed a lot of the Snakes and Arrows songs (Far Cry (I think that bass in the intro was very angry compared to the next two releases), The Way the Wind Blows, Armor and Sword, The Main Monkey Business, and Working Them Angels are my favorites).  It was awesome to see stuff like Entre Nous, A Passage to Bangkok, Mission in its entirety.  I think, to me, this is pretty much the last time Geddy's voice was relatively crisp (compared to the next two DVD releases).

All in all, this tour was a good example of what Rush setlists can be composed of (Hits, Non-hits staples, rarities, and the theme of the tour) and it was bloody great.  Kudos to them on that.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: KevShmev on June 29, 2014, 10:31:51 PM
  This is the tour where I remember them really getting creative with their intros and outro's.

Excellent point!  The plane of dharma thing still make me laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOo5I1z9vgc

And the outtakes are so damn funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8m0PGz_dfw

Alex Lifeson is so the man. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2014, 05:14:24 AM
Wouldn't Lifeson just be the coolest guy to have over for a dinner party??
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on June 30, 2014, 05:49:44 AM
Wouldn't Lifeson just be the coolest guy to have over for a dinner party??

We should ask the Trailer Park Boys that question.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 03, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Rush found themselves with an itch to tour, but without a new album out, their ideas about the set list were different this time around. What they DID have, however, were two exciting reasons to two. To coincide with upcoming 30th anniversary of their seminal album Moving Pictures and the single from their forth-coming album (released 2 years later), their idea was to do a "Time Machine" tour, which would visit songs from their past, present, and future.

The tour was once again split over two legs, from June 29 to October 17, 2010 (ending with a revisit to South America), then picking back up in the Spring on March 30, ending on July 2, 2011. This time around, the set intro/outro videos were based around the theme of the band's history, as well as changing it around for comedic effect. The band once again star as unique characters, even parodies of themselves, in various versions of Rush...or Rash.

The Power Windows website has this to say about this tour:

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The setlist remained the same throughout the tour. Albums not featured this tour: Fly By Night, Caress Of Steel, Grace Under Pressure, Roll The Bones, Test For Echo, Vapor Trails and Feedback.

"Presto" and "Faithless" were played for the first time ever. "Stick It Out" was played for the first time in 13 years (last played on the Test For Echo tour); "Marathon" is played for the first time in 20 years (last played on the Presto tour); and of course "The Camera Eye" is played for the first time in 28 years (last played on the Signals tour; the remaining six Moving Pictures tracks had all been played during the previous two tours).

"Closer To The Heart", "Leave That Thing Alone" and "Vital Signs" were brought back after last being played on the Vapor Trails tour, and after being rested for the Snakes & Arrows tour, old standards "La Villa Strangiato" and "Working Man" returned. "Closer To The Heart" featured an all new arrangement, beginning with a new 12 string acoustic intro, as well as one of the verses arranged with a slower yet heavier tempo.

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As has been the pattern since the VT tour, we now have another officially released show from this tour, and the WHOLE show to boot! With no changes to the set list this go around, every song from the tour is represented in the official release. Because this tour was a bit shorter than the previous four (TFE, VT, R30, and S&A), the show ends up fitting on two 80-minute CDs (as is the official release), but to make it match the trend of shows from the last four tours, I edited my version to be a 3 CD set. Doing so also places ALL of Moving Pictures onto the 2nd disc, instead of being split like on the official release.

Rush - Time Machine Tour - 147:28
(Live In Cleveland, OH)
Complete Show - Re-Cut

Disc 1 - 59:31
 1. The Spirit Of Radio       5:02
 2. Time Stand Still       5:16
 3. Presto          6:32
 4. Stick It Out       4:22
 5. Workin' Them Angels       4:44
 6. Leave That Thing Alone!    5:13
 7. Faithless          5:57
 8. BU2B          4:23
 9. Freewill          5:29
10. Marathon          6:29
11. Subdivisions       6:04

Disc 2 - 40:54 (Moving Pictures Live)
 1. Tom Sawyer          4:53
 2. Red Barchetta       6:55
 3. YYZ             4:32
 4. Limelight          4:30
 5. The Camera Eye      10:03
 6. Witch Hunt          4:42
 7. Vital Signs          5:19

Disc 3 - 47:03
 1. Caravan          5:48
 2. Moto Perpetuo (Drum Solo)    8:22
 3. O'Malley's Break       1:33
 4. Closer To The Heart       3:28
 5. 2112 (I - II)       7:10
 6. Far Cry          6:22
 7. La Villa Strangiato       7:40
 8. Working Man          6:40

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As mentioned above from PW's website, there's a lot of interesting and "new"/returning material played this tour. Not including the entirety of MP, or the two new songs, NINE new songs were introduced into this set that were not played on the previous tour. Granted, three of those are classics like "Closer To The Heart", "Working Man" and "La Villa Strangiato" (all of which had new intros and other changes), but the other six include songs that haven't been played in over a decade ("Leave That Thing Alone!", "Stick It Out", "Marathon", "Time Stand Still"), or haven't been played EVER ("Presto" and "Faithless").

This is where I began to feel like Geddy's voice was slipping a bit, but as instrumentalists, the band was pretty tight for this show in Cleveland (which in itself is pretty historic considering this was where they had their beginning in America). Performing all of MP is a pretty tough feat, I'm sure, and they seem to pull it off quite well. I figure if they were going to do it, this was the time. Any later and I can see them having issues with performing the whole thing, especially Geddy and his voice. I doubt we'll ever see them perform a WHOLE album in it's entirety ever again (although with half of Power Windows last tour and most of Clockwork Angels, we got close), so I'm glad they decided to do it then. If, by chance, they did, it would have to be a later album, and I'm not sure I would care to see anything past MP in its entirety...I mean, maybe GUP or POW (even though between 2002 and 2012, we got 7/8th of POW live, so I'm not eager to see the whole thing just for "Emotion Detector"), but nothing else seems viable for the whole-album-live format.

As for this performance itself, it's pretty solid and I like the show. I haven't revisited this one as much as the other shows between R30 and CAT, and I'm not sure why. I guess because there's only a few songs here I care to listen to, and sometimes I'll spin the full MP Live, but that's about it. I feel like we've gotten better versions of classics like "2112", "Working Man", and "La Villa Strangiato" on other recent tours. The first set is pretty great, though, especially the last three songs. And I'm sure this will be the only time they ever play "BU2B', so I guess we're stuck with it here.

Another thing that kind of disappointed me about this tour was how SHORT it was. The S&A Tour was about 155 minutes of music, while this tour only had about 145. I guess if you throw in all the videos they had, the show was about the same length, but I feel like they could've played one or two more songs in the second set. At least the next tour would jump back up to about 165 minute of music, about the same from the TFE and VT tours. The R30 tour has been, by far, the one with the most music.

Personally, I had really wanted to see them on this tour when they came to DC in September of 2010, but I missed my chance to. They came around to Baltimore the next April, but for one reason or another, I did have the time or money to do so. Another tour gone, and I still had yet to see them live, but I eager awaited the live release. I even bought the BestBuy version that came with the RASH t-shirt inside!!! I would have to wait until the next tour to finally see my favorite band hit the stage...

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 04, 2014, 12:01:48 AM
Nice that you got the RASH t-shirt for Time Machine.  I got the t-shirt from the DVD of the next tour, but I'll talk about that later.  Anywho, yeah, Time Machine was still solid.  It was probably the only DVD for me where The Spirit of Radio got the ovation it deserved after the "Concert Hall" part.  A huge gripe was Geddy's voice though like you stated.  That was where it starting to become not crisp and you can hear it in songs like The Spirit of Radio, Time Stands Still, Closer to the Heart.  It's cool to hear Presto, Faithless, BU2B (especially since that track was not played in the next tour).

I enjoyed the videos, especially the one with during the intermission that led into Tom Sawyer.  "Hey, hey, hey.  You can say whatever you want about my crappy band, but you leave the girls out of this."  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2014, 07:23:33 AM
To be fair to Geddy, I recall seeing/reading interviews suggesting he was fighting a cold leading up to and the night of the DVD recording - but they couldn't put it off to another show for some reason.

I saw this show at the Air Canada Centre, where my company has a lease on four seats.  One thing I remember was scrambling a few days before the show trying to find people to accompany me.  The guy I had lined up bailed on me, and I was in Colorado at the time, frantically calling anyone I knew who was a Rush fan, or just a rock fan in general, but because it was such short notice, I couldn't get anyone.  Finally ended up giving 2 tickets to our HR Manager (her fiance was a huge Rush fan), and finally found a customer that could go.

When I got to the show, I told the people behind us "just so you know, I'm not sitting down during Moving Pictures at all".

I loved this show.  One of my favorites.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: KevShmev on July 04, 2014, 08:24:27 AM
I was so excited when Marathon was brought back, but Geddy simply couldn't sing the chorus well anymore.  The way he sang the line, "Something always fires the light that gets in your eyes," made me want to hurl.  I can't even listen or watch the live version from the Cleveland show because of that one line. :censored

This set list is good, but that first set still looks weird.  Aside from the fact that many crowds were reportedly shitless for the bulk of it, that Stick It Out through BU2B 5-song run just looks off (and I love Leave That Thing Alone, but that was not a good spot for it in the set list).
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 04, 2014, 12:35:18 PM
To be fair to Geddy, I recall seeing/reading interviews suggesting he was fighting a cold leading up to and the night of the DVD recording - but they couldn't put it off to another show for some reason.

I saw this show at the Air Canada Centre, where my company has a lease on four seats.  One thing I remember was scrambling a few days before the show trying to find people to accompany me.  The guy I had lined up bailed on me, and I was in Colorado at the time, frantically calling anyone I knew who was a Rush fan, or just a rock fan in general, but because it was such short notice, I couldn't get anyone.  Finally ended up giving 2 tickets to our HR Manager (her fiance was a huge Rush fan), and finally found a customer that could go.

When I got to the show, I told the people behind us "just so you know, I'm not sitting down during Moving Pictures at all".

I loved this show.  One of my favorites.

Now that you mention it, I do recall hearing about Geddy's cold during that part of the tour. It is a shame they could not postpone the recording though in favor of a better sounding show.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: Ultimetalhead on July 06, 2014, 06:30:22 AM
I think the cold theory is BS, honestly, because I saw the shows before AND after the DVD recording and he sounded really good. Hearing the DVD, I was wondering what happened. If it was a cold it must have immediately gotten horrible right after the Toledo show and cleared right up before Detroit.

Anyway yeah this was my first Rush tour. Saw it twice. Remains one of the greatest experiences of my life.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Time Machine Tour
Post by: KevShmev on July 06, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Going back to my point about the first set, with playing all of MP to kick off the 2nd set, they almost had no choice, given the songs they chose to play overall.  If you look at their set lists in the 21st century, they tend to play the bulk of their newest stuff early in 2nd sets, but since MP was taking the first seven spots of this one, they had to load the first set with the newer songs and obscure ones brought back for the diehards, so both sets look rather lopsided (first set = mostly newer and obscure songs, second set/encore = mostly classics).  Had they broken MP up and played Side 1 at the end of the first set and then Side 2 at the beginning of the second set, the set list might have looked and sounded more well-rounded.  Something like this:

Set 1
The Spirit Of Radio
Time Stand Still
Workin' Them Angels
Stick It Out
Freewill
Faithless
Presto
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
YYZ
Limelight

Set 2
The Camera Eye
Witch Hunt
Vital Signs
Caravan
BU2B
Subdivisions
Marathon
Leave That Thing Alone
Drum solo
Acoustic guitar solo
Closer to the Heart
2112 (I and II)
Far Cry

Encore
La Villa Strangiato
Working Man
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 06, 2014, 10:04:32 AM
The Snakes & Arrows Tour began June 13 and went to Oct. 29, for the FIRST leg. For the first time in awhile, they tours TWO major legs of the tour and not a straight shot of 4-6 months. In between legs, they released the the Snakes & Arrows Live album, recorded from their Rotterdam shows, their 8th and 7th to last shows on the first leg.

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"The [Snakes & Arrows Live] CD came out just prior to us going back out on the road - it gave us a little boost I think, in terms of making everybody aware that we were going back out for the second half of the tour." - Alex Lifeson, UGO.com, December 11, 2008

After the break, they went back out on the road from April 11 to July 24 the following year. The Atlanta show (the second to last of the tour) was also recorded for some of the 2nd-Leg-Only tracks that appear on the DVD.

The Power Windows website has this to say about this tour:

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For this tour 9 of the 13 tracks from the new album were played live, and the largest percentage of new songs performed in support of an album since the Power Windows tour. The setlists for this tour were quite a bit more varied than recent tours: "Entre Nous" was played live for the first time ever; "Circumstances" [tuned down a full step] was not played since the Hemispheres tour; "A Passage To Bangkok" in its entirety for the first time since the Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures warm up tour; "Digital Man" [with a new arrangement] since the Grace Under Pressure warm-up tour; "Witch Hunt" since the Power Windows tour; "Mission" since the Presto tour; and "One O'Clock Jump" was replaced by "Cotton Tail" as the drum solo finale, performed by Neil with the Buddy Rich Band on Burning for Buddy Vol. I. Unfortunately both "Entre Nous" and "Circumstances" were replaced by newer, less obscure songs for the second leg.

It is also worthy to note that "Roll The Bones" was dropped for the first time ever. Keeping score on the songs played: only 6 songs were played from albums released between Moving Pictures and Vapor Trails (only one from the 90's, and one from the 80's was only performed for less than half of the tour dates); not including the drum solo, of the 27 songs played, 17 were from PeW, MP or SA - roughly 2/3 of the concert (2/3 of the entire Permanent Waves album was included). It also is worth mentioning that between the last three tours, Rush played 6/7ths of Moving Pictures live; "The Camera Eye" being the notable exception.

Setlist changes during this tour: for the first leg, with few exceptions, "Summertime Blues" alternated with "Distant Early Warning" after DEW was first performed on July 4th; both songs were replaced by "2112 Overture/Temples Of Syrinx" for the second leg although the "2112 medley" followed "The Spirit Of Radio" rather than preceding it. With the return of the "2112" medley in the second leg setlist, the Counterparts tour remains the only tour to not include any part of "2112" in the setlist. Other changes for the second leg: "Ghost Of A Chance" replaced "Entre Nous"; "Red Barchetta" replaced "Secret Touch"; and "The Trees" replaced "Circumstances".

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This tour once again had an officially record and released live video and album. Because of this, I used the whole Rotterdam show and tacked on the "Oh, Atlanta! The Authorized Bootlegs" from the DVD onto the end of the album, much in the same way I did with Rush In Rio (which had 2 official soundboard songs already) and my Test For Echo Tour complete show. Fortunately, the powers that  be provided ALL the alternate tracks save for "Summertime Blues" (which is not well-missed, personally), so we have a fairly complete documentation of ALL (but one) of the songs featured on this tour!

For my personal Complete Tours remix, I shuffled the track list a bit, and in turn puts the drum solo at/near the end of the second disc (where it sat for TFE, VT and the R30 tours. Weird how it lands there...)

Rush - Snakes & Arrows Live - 179:45
(Live In Rotterdam & Atlanta, GA)
Complete Show + 2nd Leg Tracks

Disc 1 - 62:18
 1. Limelight          4:48
 2. Digital Man          6:57
 3. Entre Nous          5:18
 4. Mission          5:39
 5. Freewill          6:02
 6. The Main Monkey Business    6:06
 7. The Larger Bowl       4:21
 8. Secret Touch       7:45
 9. Circumstances       3:47
10. Between The Wheels       6:01
11. Dreamline          5:34

Disc 2 - 58:38
 1. Far Cry          5:20
 2. Workin' Them Angels       4:49
 3. Armor And Sword       6:37
 4. Spindrift          5:41
 5. The Way The Wind Blows    6:24
 6. Subdivisions       5:43
 7. Natural Science       8:34
 8. Witch Hunt          4:49
 9. Malignant Narcissism    2:24
10. De Slagwerker (Drum Solo)    8:17

Disc 3 - 58:22
 1. Hope          2:21
 2. Distant Early Warning    4:54
 3. The Spirit Of Radio       5:03
 4. Tom Sawyer          5:49
 5. One Little Victory       5:27
 6. A Passage To Bangkok    3:57
 7. YYZ             5:17
-----(Oh, Atlanta! Bonus Tracks)-----
 8. Ghost Of A Chance        6:09
 9. Red Barchetta        6:43
10. The Trees           5:54
11. 2112 (I - II)       6:48

Missing:
Summertime Blues - alternated with
Distant Early Warning on 1st Leg

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This was quite a doozy of a "new" set list. Some songs were swapped out from the last two tours, some were brought back from the VT tour, but most astonishing of all was the fact that they performed NINE out of their thirteen new songs! Not since Power Windows had that much of an album been played live! Split between the two sets, these nine new songs made up a THIRD of each night's show (27 songs each night, excluding the drum solo). Of the remaining two thirds of the show, we got FOUR songs from PEW and, on the 2nd leg, 5 songs from MP. They may as well have played all three albums (PEW, MP and S&A) in their entirety at that rate! (I wish...but could you imagine?! They'd have done it before YES would...)

This tour has a lot of exciting songs on it, with "Circumstances" and "Digital Man" making huge comebacks, the first-ever performances of "Entre Nous" and the return of "Witch Hunt" AND "Natural Science". Lots of stuff from PEW-onward to enjoy, but little-to-no material post GUP, and with only two songs from VT (with "Secret Touch" getting dropped in the 2nd leg).

As for this particular show itself, the Rotterdam show is pretty good, especially being near the end of the first leg. After nearly 5 months of touring, they had everything down and this was a pretty damn good performance. It's been a little while since I've listened to this whole show, but I recall enjoying almost every song, even if Geddy's voice was beginning to decline, he definitely belted out "Circumstances" for this recorded show. Neil's drum solo was, as usual, very good, and his new elements made his solo fresh and exciting for me. About half of it was "new" to the audience, with a good bit of shuffling around; we got a new version of "Momo's Dance Party", followed by a zen-sounding waltz, and a new jazz tune at the end. And the one-two-punch of "Natural Science" into "Witch Hunt" is just gold.

The Atlanta tracks are great, too, even if the only unique song is "Ghost Of A Chance", another surprise from this tour. Odd how this tour began at Atlanta (of which I had the opening night bootleg of titled "Overnight Delivery" (https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=1835)) and would have ended at Atlanta, although a rescheduled Indiana show forced them to end the tour there instead.

This was a welcome and fresh show, with new songs and great set list choices. They kept it interesting, and the change from R30 to this tour was a lot more jarring, yet intriguing than the ones they made from VT to R30. They played TEN fresh songs not played on the previous tour (excluding S&A songs of course): Digital Man, Entre Nous, Freewill, Mission, Circumstances, Natural Science, Witch Hunt, Distant Early Warning, Ghost Of A Chance, and A Passage To Bangkok (in full!)...and of those, all but 3 haven't been played in a VERY long time! Bravo, Rush, but being even MORE daring on this tour!!!

-Marc.

I loved both legs of this tour.  My favorite show was probably the July 4, 2008 in AC which only held about 5,000 or so making it the smallest Rush show I'd ever been to although the MSG show might give that one a run for its money.

This was the start of the band kicking it into even a higher gear with humor.  I'll be the first to admit that I NEVER thought I'd ever hear Digital Man, Entre Nous, Circumstances and A Passage To Bangkok ever again and although the reasons for me thinking I'd never here Circumstances and A Passage To Bangkok pretty much made themselves known during the performance it was nice to see them give them a shot anyway. Also loved the heavy emphasis on the new stuff which I thought was a great way to open the second set.


Plenty of great shows out there some of which I have but at this point the performance level of the live albums and DVDs pretty much kill off the desire to dig heavily into finding the rest of the shows from the tour.

This is also the tour where you see the next generation of fans really take to the band and start creating their own memories. I think that's awesome.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 06, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
I loved both legs of this tour.  My favorite show was probably the July 4, 2008 in AC which only held about 5,000 or so making it the smallest Rush show I'd ever been to although the MSG show might give that one a run for its money.

This was the start of the band kicking it into even a higher gear with humor.  I'll be the first to admit that I NEVER thought I'd ever hear Digital Man, Entre Nous, Circumstances and A Passage To Bangkok ever again and although the reasons for me thinking I'd never here Circumstances and A Passage To Bangkok pretty much made themselves known during the performance it was nice to see them give them a shot anyway. Also loved the heavy emphasis on the new stuff which I thought was a great way to open the second set.


Plenty of great shows out there some of which I have but at this point the performance level of the live albums and DVDs pretty much kill off the desire to dig heavily into finding the rest of the shows from the tour.

This is also the tour where you see the next generation of fans really take to the band and start creating their own memories. I think that's awesome.

To be honest, I never thought they'd ever play ANY of those songs live, ever again. Anything prior to Signals seemed like an impossibility if they hadn't played them in the last 10-15 years, but leave it to them to pull out songs they hadn't played in over 20 years, and one that had NEVER been played before!

As for the next generation of Rush fans, I really do see it in the recent tours. There's a surge of new fans, and old ones coming back around. I think the band themselves are even feeding off this Rush energy that fans give them. Ever since their documentary and the movie I Love You, Man came out, Rush has been in the limelight (no pun intended), and they're doing quite well.

I'm kind of glad they aren't pushing an R40 tour this year, because that's what people would expect. Rush are always unexpected, especially as these recent set lists show us. They're not afraid to pull out the "Digital Man"s or the "Entre Nous"s, or play over 2/3rds of a new album, or perform a whole old album in its entirety for the first time in their whole career! This is why I love this band, and why I am so glad I was able to go see them last year on the CA Tour in Baltimore, but I'll talk more about that when we get to the CA Tour post at the end of this week or so.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Snakes & Arrows Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 10, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
I loved both legs of this tour.  My favorite show was probably the July 4, 2008 in AC which only held about 5,000 or so making it the smallest Rush show I'd ever been to although the MSG show might give that one a run for its money.

This was the start of the band kicking it into even a higher gear with humor.  I'll be the first to admit that I NEVER thought I'd ever hear Digital Man, Entre Nous, Circumstances and A Passage To Bangkok ever again and although the reasons for me thinking I'd never here Circumstances and A Passage To Bangkok pretty much made themselves known during the performance it was nice to see them give them a shot anyway. Also loved the heavy emphasis on the new stuff which I thought was a great way to open the second set.


Plenty of great shows out there some of which I have but at this point the performance level of the live albums and DVDs pretty much kill off the desire to dig heavily into finding the rest of the shows from the tour.

This is also the tour where you see the next generation of fans really take to the band and start creating their own memories. I think that's awesome.

To be honest, I never thought they'd ever play ANY of those songs live, ever again. Anything prior to Signals seemed like an impossibility if they hadn't played them in the last 10-15 years, but leave it to them to pull out songs they hadn't played in over 20 years, and one that had NEVER been played before!

As for the next generation of Rush fans, I really do see it in the recent tours. There's a surge of new fans, and old ones coming back around. I think the band themselves are even feeding off this Rush energy that fans give them. Ever since their documentary and the movie I Love You, Man came out, Rush has been in the limelight (no pun intended), and they're doing quite well.

I'm kind of glad they aren't pushing an R40 tour this year, because that's what people would expect. Rush are always unexpected, especially as these recent set lists show us. They're not afraid to pull out the "Digital Man"s or the "Entre Nous"s, or play over 2/3rds of a new album, or perform a whole old album in its entirety for the first time in their whole career! This is why I love this band, and why I am so glad I was able to go see them last year on the CA Tour in Baltimore, but I'll talk more about that when we get to the CA Tour post at the end of this week or so.

-Marc.

This was really the first tour where there were more than one or two surprises.  "Entre Nous" was sound-checked on at least one other tour.

There was no way there was going to be an R40 tour. They didn't want to be on the road anymore. It's really that simple.




Okay, Time Machine Tour.....(or what I'd like to call the Pre-Clockwork Angels Tour.)  Similar in set structure as the Clockwork Angels Tour (Swap out Moving Pictures and Clockwork Angels and you get the idea.)

I'll admit I REALLY wasn't looking forward to witnessing Moving Pictures played in its entirety, but side two is just one of the best album sides ever so that along with killer renditions of YYZ and Red Barchetta made it very worthwhile. I didn't think The Camera Eye was going to come off well, but in most cases I was happy to be mistaken on that count.

Sure it would be easy to point out some stellar shows from this tour -- the obligatory 4/11/11 MSG show for starters. but a live album and DVD for each tour really kills the motivation for grabbing all there is. I suppose I'll get there at some point.

Even if you lost Moving Pictures, this would be one fine set on it's own. (Didn't even let Stick It Out bother me much on this tour)

But I really love the stuff they pull out of their hats.  Presto? Are you kidding me? The band has repeatedly gone on record as saying they don't like the album chalking it up to a failed experiment. Presto might join Entre Nous was the song least likely to be brought out live that was at that time.  Faithless????? Bring it on! (Better late than never!) And there can never be enough Leave That Thing Alone.

I also really like the live SOUND of this tour and how it was put together. And the intro films were my favorites to date.

And the scary thing is......

The next tour was even better!







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    Also, IIRC, this was the first Rush tour ever where the first song they played was not a Track 1.  Seems crazy to think that it took that long for that to happen, but it's true.


Wow, I believe you're right! I never realized or noticed that. It's also funny to note that they opened this tour's set with the song they used to close last tour's set! It always seems that set openers, closers, and encores have a way of jumping around: The Spirit Of Radio, Tom Sawyer, YYZ, Limelight, One Little Victory, Working Man, La Villa Strangiato. They're always one of those kinds of songs that just feels right to open or close a set/show, or be used in an encore.

-Marc.

Track one has always been "the quintessential Rush song" as Geddy likes to call it which is why it goes where it does on the albums.

Splitting hairs, but the R30 overture had A Passage To Bangkok and Cygnus X-1, but the rest were track ones.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 11, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
Rush made their triumphant return with a new studio album, released five years after their last one (which was released five years after the one before that - still a better rate than Tool), by releasing their FIRST EVER CONCEPT ALBUM. It was a statement that, even 20 albums in, the band could rock hard and release something so different but still very "at home" for them. They've dabbled in concepts and ideas before, like Roll The Bones with it's gambling/money themes, or Counterparts with it's binary-like lyrics of opposing things, but never before have they done a WHOLE album of the narrative concept before. They've done sides like "The Fountain Of Lamneth", "2112", and the "Cygnus X-1" duology, but an album of 12 songs reaching over an hour seemed so unusual and new.

When it came time to hit the road with this amazing material, they decided to do something different once more and introduce OTHER PERFORMERS on stage with them. The Clockwork Angels String Ensemble featured one conductor and nine players on the tour, and they played most of the 2nd set with the band, including up to 10 songs from their new album. This tour began its first leg on September 7, taking them to December 2, 2012; the second leg continues on April 23, 2013 and concluded on August 4, 2013. They played 72 shows across North America and Europe and recorded two shows in the US for future release.

The Power Windows website has this to say about this tour:
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Rush threw out the playbook and offered up a completely fresh setlist with multiple variations for the Clockwork Angels Tour. In addition, for the first time ever the band was joined by a seven piece string section on stage for the majority of the second half of the show. Also for the first time, the drum solo was broken up into three segments heard at different points throughout the show.

The first set was heavy with 80's tracks beginning with the three album openers from Signals, Power Windows and Hold Your Fire performed sequentially to kick off the show, followed by three ultra-rare 80's live tracks, with more later in the show.

As with previous Rush tours, various minor setlist changes were made over the first few shows including refining the nightly alternates in the Clockwork Angels suite and finalizing the encore.

From the start of the tour, slightly differing setlists were planned (https://www.2112.net/powerwindows/tours/120907setlists.jpg) to allow for the nightly rotation of four songs and their alternates: these eventually included "The Body Electric", "Bravado", "Seven Cities of Gold" and "Manhattan Project"; those songs were replaced the following night by "Middletown Dreams", "The Pass", "Wish Them Well" and "Dreamline", respectively. These eight songs remained alternates throughout the tour with a few exceptions, such as the occasional alternate being Limelight. For additional details including setlist revisions, click here (https://www.2112.net/powerwindows/main/CAtournews.htm).

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Another tour, and another official release. This time, the band decided to treat us and include all but ONE of the songs they played this tour, with one unique difference. The only song played that isn't present on the official Clockwork Angels Tour live album is "Working Man", which was only played five times at the start of the tour.

Because the track list is pretty perfect, this is one of the few times where I didn't change anything to an official release! The first set fits perfectly on Disc 1, all of the CA material on Disc 2, and everything else on Disc 3. And like with the TFE, VT, and S&A Tour sets I've made, all the bonus tracks have been tacked onto the end of Disc 3.

Rush - Clockwork Angels Tour - 184:46
(Live In Phoenix, AZ & San Antonio/Dallas, TX)
Complete Show + Bonus Tracks

Disc 1 - 59:21
 1. Subdivisions          5:39
 2. The Big Money          6:02
 3. Force Ten            5:35
 4. Grand Designs          5:15
 6. The Body Electric         4:52
 7. Territories          6:46
 8. The Analog Kid          5:24
10. Bravado            5:46
11. Where's My Thing?/Here It Is!   8:23
12. Far Cry             5:35

Disc 2 65:32
 1. Caravan             5:42
 2. Clockwork Angels          8:12
 3. The Anarchist          6:59
 4. Carnies             5:16
 5. The Wreckers          5:27
 6. Headlong Flight/Drumbastica      8:17
 7. Peke's Repose/Halo Effect      5:15
 8. Seven Cities Of Gold      6:23
 9. Wish Them Well          6:41
10. The Garden             7:16

Disc 3 - 59:53
 1. Dreamline            5:19
 2. The Percussor         3:10
 3. Red Sector A          5:21
 4. YYZ             4:52
 5. The Spirit Of Radio       6:27
 6. Tom Sawyer             5:56
 7. 2112 Overture/Temples/Grand Finale   8:19
---------(Phoenix, AZ Bonus Tracks)---------
 8. Limelight (Soundcheck Recording)   4:42
 9. Middletown Dreams         5:20
10. The Pass            5:03
11. Manhattan Project         5:20

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This is an even more far-out-there set list than the last two, with a TON of revisited songs that hadn't been played since the mid-to-late 80's, many of which were only played on one or two tours. The set-up is pretty simple, and takes after the last couple tours' set lists: Some hits and obscure stuff in set 1 with a strong closer, a bunch of new stuff in the first half of the 2nd set, then close out the show with singles/hits and a strong classic-song encore.

This time around, instead of only doing a set of 5 new songs (like with Snakes & Arrows), or an old album in its entirety (like with Moving Pictures), they did almost ALL OF THEIR NEW ALBUM, in some order, to open the 2nd set with their string ensemble. Most nights they only played 9 songs, with "Seven Cities Of Gold" and "Wish Them Well" being alternated (except one night at Dallas, where both were played for the recording of the live album/video). That's a HUGE chunk of new music, and I think the fan reception to the album was so good that they couldn't have done it any other way. Besides, it's a concept album! How could you break all of that up across the whole night?!

The string ensemble is so beautiful, and having witnessed this show in real life was such a joy for me. The show in Baltimore was amazing, and I unfortunately had to leave right before the encore as my friend I was with was feeling ill and needed to leave early. So as forgiveness for making me cut out before "2112", she bought me a Rush Tour t-shirt, which I love. It was the dark blue one with the red logos and the tour list on the back. I love it so much (and it was like $35-40!), so I'm not too miffed that I didn't get to see "2112". Everything else was worth it.

Back to the show and set list at hand, the huge influx of 80's material made me SO happy because I love Power Windows, and hearing songs like "The Analog Kid" again is a real treat. Between this tour and the previous two, the band has played 7 out of 8 songs from POW (with the only exception being the one song from the album they've never played, "Emotion Detector"). I loved the return of "Where's My Thing?" and how Neil YYZ'd his drum solo into the middle of the song! The last time they played this, he went into his solo AFTER the song (like he would with "Leave That Thing Alone!" in later tours), so it was neat to see him do this differently! The shorter solo here is nice and tight, showing off his skills on the front half of the kit.

The 2nd set is unbelievable and the run of CA songs is great, especially with how Neil integrated his drum-samples solo, typically used with horns and a big band outro, into the middle of "Headlong Flight". "The Garden" sounds even MORE beautiful live, if that's even possible, and Alex's intro to "Halo Effect" is stunning. But even after all of the CA songs, the string ensemble continued to play!

The remaining songs they picked are OK ("Dreamline" and "Red Sector A"), but the stand outs were "Manhattan Project" and, oddly enough, "YYZ". Before "Red Sector A", though, we are treated to one final Neil solo, where he shows off his skills on the back kit, with some AWESOME new samples and sounds that really make his solo sound more musical and melodic. I love this solo, and I hope he keeps bits of this on the next tour's solo(s).

The show closes out with "The Spirit Of Radio", but the encore is pretty great. The expected "Tom Sawyer" is, well, expected, but they pulled out the R30 version of "2112" again, with the full "Grand Finale" guitar solo this time around!!! I was so excited to hear that he was playing that solo again! The lack of it on the R30 Tour made it sound really flat at the climax of the "Grand Finale". I kind of wished the string ensemble had come back out for "2112". That would have been WAY cool.

Whew...anyways, those are my thoughts (for now) on the CA tour, and currently their last tour. No news yet on another tour, or an album, as 2014 is to be a year off for Rush. I guess we'll know in 6 months if they'll be recording or touring in the next year or so.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on July 11, 2014, 08:00:04 PM
Seeing the first show on this tour made me appropriate the old days of not knowing the setlist.  Hearing songs I have not heard them play live since I saw them in the 80's was mind blowing.  I loved both set lists!

My only complaint was hearing Far Cry.  I'm tired of that song.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: jammindude on July 11, 2014, 08:10:34 PM
I've seen Rush....I think 6 times now.   And THIS was the best show.  (although it fights it out with T4E) 

Amazing concert.   The *only* thing I would have done differently, would be to just play the whole album.   I mean really?  You pull us up *one song* short of the whole thing?   What a tease.   :P
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Lucien on July 11, 2014, 11:31:42 PM
This was an amazing concert in every way.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on July 11, 2014, 11:47:58 PM
I love this tour and DVD in so many ways.  I got the Best Buy package with the shirt that had Rush logo with the "blah, blah, blah" in it.  The setlist is great.  I loved the performance of the Analog Kid.  I thought when I heard that Dreamline was in the set, I thought that song should have the strings in it, and I was glad it did.  The Clockwork Angels songs was great, especially Headlong Flight, Wish Them Well (with Alex "dancing"), and the Garden.  Probably, the one thing I would have added would have been BU2B2.  Kinda use it as a interlude, similar to Alex's brief solo in the Time Machine Tour that led to Closer to the Heart.   Everything else was great, and Geddy's vocals were better here than the Time Machine DVD.  All in all, fantastic stuff from these guys.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: PolarizeMe on July 12, 2014, 12:03:07 AM
Despite some minor qualms I have about the audio and video production of the CA Tour CD/DVD, it's probably my 2nd favorite of the post-Different Stages live albums (next to R30) because it was the best of the two tours I've seen (the other being the Time Machine Tour) and especially because of the killer setlist. I think I might be one of the few people who was extremely psyched than normal to see Where's My Thing? in the set, primarily because I had all but given up hope that they would ever play it live again prior to the tour. It's funny, but while PoW is my favorite synth-era album, I had an even greater appreciation for the PoW songs after hearing those songs live, especially Middletown Dreams. Simply put, I thought was an amazing show, and an amazing tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 12, 2014, 04:39:15 AM
Saw the CA tour from the 10th row. Closest I've ever been or ever will be and it was probably the greatest show I've ever seen.

My only complaint is that they didn't play losing it, which normally I wouldn't care, but seriously, when you have an entire string section, for the first and perhaps only time, it really seemed like a no brainer. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Lucien on July 12, 2014, 08:09:12 AM
Well, that electric violin sounded completely different than any of the acoustic violins....
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on July 12, 2014, 08:45:53 AM
Well, that electric violin sounded completely different than any of the acoustic violins....

WUT? :lol  Edit: Should be in green.

Who cares about that.  Play the damn song!  Also thought Tears would have been a killer live!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: KevShmev on July 12, 2014, 10:08:00 AM

My only complaint was hearing Far Cry.  I'm tired of that song.

Amen to that!  Then again, I've never thought Far Cry was that great, so ending a set with it two tours in a row was not something I was overly excited about.  Regardless, this was a helluva tour, and the set list was totally bad ass.  I loved seeing all of those Power Windows songs come back.  The one drawback to their rotations was swapping Manhattan Project, a song that hadn't been played since the 80s, with Dreamline, a song that has been played to death over the last two decades of tours.  Because it didn't get played at the show here in St. Louis, I still have never seen that song played live, although we did get The Pass over Bravado and Middletown Dreams over The Body Electric, so I couldn't complain about batting .667 on those rotations.  :biggrin:  Still, it would have made more sense to swap Dreamline with Red Sector A, which also gets played a ton, and then played Manhattan Project at every show.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on July 12, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
I was lucky enough to see both sets on this tour.




As well as seeing them played in the 80's. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: KevShmev on July 12, 2014, 10:26:32 AM
 >:( :censored

This is what I am feeling right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTeUDpduVoU

:P ;)

Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on July 12, 2014, 10:40:02 AM
 :lol

Great tune!

Well I'm off to see a Buddy Holley Musical with my bro and dad! 

Rush is my Favorite band of all time and his is Buddy Holley!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: The Letter M on July 13, 2014, 10:28:32 PM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rush/2013/1st-mariner-arena-baltimore-md-73d87e9d.html

This was the show I got. I'm happy I got "Manhattan Project" with the string ensemble, but I kind of wished I had gotten "Middletown Dreams" instead of "The Body Electric", but both are good. "Seven Cities Of Gold" was great, too, as was "Bravado" with its extended outro.

I mean, who'd have thought that, past 1994, we'd get a set with 2 songs from Signals, 2 songs from GUP, 4 songs from POW, and 2 songs from RTB all in one night (neither of which were the title track, thank goodness)?! Add to that, one extra from POW and RTB on alternate nights, it's easy to see that they were really loving their Signals-RTB material. I hope we see another healthy rotation of those albums in the next tour, maybe with some more Presto and Counterparts? I wouldn't mind seeing "Lock And Key", "Afterimage", "Kid Gloves" "Chain Lightning", "Scars", "Double Agent", "Coldfire", or "Nobody's Hero" played.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: KevShmev on July 13, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the next tour sees them focus heavily on the albums from the 80s and 90s that didn't get any love the last tour.  Granted, if it's an anniversary tour per se, they won't get too heavy on the obscure stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them finally give Test for Echo some love, as well as maybe pull out something that hasn't been played in a while from Hold Your Fire and/or Counterparts.  Prime Move was a one tour-and-done song, but it's great on A Show of Hands, and I don't see that being a song Geddy would have a tough time singing.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: PolarizeMe on July 13, 2014, 11:15:59 PM
I'd be a happy camper if they resurrected Prime Mover on the next tour even if they go ahead with an A/B setlist like the last tour. Including lesser played tracks from HYF through TFE in the setlist would be a nice treat. I thought Grand Designs was a song that Geddy pulled off reasonably well without giving himself a tough time. The performance of Middletown Dreams on CA Tour pushed his vocals a bit compared to the rest of the Signals through HYF songs IMO (but compared to a song like Freewill, it's not as straining), but I'm glad they kept it in rotation for the entire tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: King Postwhore on July 14, 2014, 06:36:23 AM
I'm begging for the Double neck and hearing Vapor Trail.  I must here that.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: ytserush on July 29, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
Don't get the hate for Far Cry live (I love it) but then I could probably live without hearing Limelight ever again.

I've probably said more than enough about the 2012-2013 tour over the years, but I'll just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nv5jorstUU

I tended to favor set A, but I did catch a B also and I'm glad that was included on the CD/DVD.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Mladen on July 30, 2014, 04:40:01 AM
I saw them last year in Berlin on this tour. It was the best concert I've ever seen, and I don't think anything will surpass it. Ever.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: KevShmev on July 30, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
Don't get the hate for Far Cry live 

I don't hate it; I like it, but I just don't feel it has been deserving of the plush spots it has gotten in the set list on the last two tours.  The last song of the second set at a Rush concert should be a time-tested classic.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Obfuscation on July 30, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
Congrats to Rush on their 40 years of making music today. Clockwork Angels is an awesome album and amazing they can still write great stuff like this 40 years later.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: ytserush on August 01, 2014, 09:02:35 PM
Don't get the hate for Far Cry live 

I don't hate it; I like it, but I just don't feel it has been deserving of the plush spots it has gotten in the set list on the last two tours.  The last song of the second set at a Rush concert should be a time-tested classic.


I really like the song (and the rest of the album obviously.)

I feel it's very deserving (which doesn't really matter) although they thought it was deserving enough to put it there.  Far Cry was three in 2010 five years old by 2012.

By way of comparison, when the Grand Finale of 2112 was played in 1981; it was five years old and Tom Sawyer was three in 1984.

I think it's every bit the classic those other two songs were at those points in time.

 I realize that far more often than not Tom Sawyer is a fixture as either the first or last song in the main set since 1980 (when it was first played) so you could say Tom Sawyer is a song that doesn't move around in the set much, but it's really the only one.


But again, your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Clockwork Angels Tour
Post by: Anguyen92 on August 01, 2014, 09:50:12 PM
I really liked that intro of Far Cry with the background video, the one with the docks and the baby stroller and it's raining, that they used during the Snakes and Arrows tour.  I think from, what I've heard on the DVD, that bass was so much meaner and fatter, in the intro, than the version of the two tours following that.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: The Letter M on August 02, 2014, 08:23:54 PM
Rush have since gone on hiatus since their epic Clockwork Angels tour, and what a well-deserved rest it is for them. Fans and critics alike have wondered if they'd celebrate their 40th Anniversary and the band was very vocal about NOT doing the expected thing, which is very Rush-like of them. They live their own lives and do their own thing, which IS expected. Geddy (or Alex, I can't recall) even said something along the lines of "Why a 40th Anniversary? Why not a 41st Anniversary tour?", and all I could do was laugh. I could totally see them doing that, and calling it that as well.

I don't expect them to tour this year, and to be honest, I really hope they start to get the itch to write/record this year/next year, and release a new album in 2015 or 2016, then go on another tour.

As for the tour itself, Alex has gone on the record (again) about how he'd like to play deep cuts and bring out rarely played songs, and of course, one that fans constantly bring up (now that "The Camera Eye" has finally been resurrected) is "Jacob's Ladder", and I do not blame them. They even brought out "Entre Nous" a few tours back, so why not "Jacob's Ladder"?! Or even "Different Strings", which, like "Entre Nous" up to it's performance, has not been played live.

Even then, there's tons of tracks from the 80's and 90's that have never been played live, so I would LOVE to see them bring them out (like "Available Light" or anything from Presto, really, an album whose tracks definitely improve with live performance).

How much longer will they tour, though?! At the rate they've been going, I can see them doing two or even three more tours before hanging it up. They've got some energy left in them, and even if they don't record any more albums, they could still tour and make bank on it, both on the tour itself and on inevitable live releases. Rush have proven themselves to be force in touring rock shows, and they show no signs of stopping quite soon.

Thanks again to everyone that has participated in my off-and-on thread, and feel free to continue this discussion on live Rush, from any tour and era, any song or performance! Share videos or experiences, anything you want! Let's keep this resource alive!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: jammindude on August 02, 2014, 10:31:54 PM
I personally predict three more tours.    An upcoming "R41" tour in 2015, another break, going into the studio, then an album in 2016/2017 (which would be the completion of a 5th "Sector" of albums), an album tour, a break, and then a giant, final, farewell, "retirement tour".... 
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: Lucien on August 02, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
I can only try to imagine what kind of greatness their final (21st perhaps) album might contain. They've set the bar so high with Clockwork Angels, surely they will attempt to make it the greatest album they've ever done. Another concept album? Perhaps a 4th, final 20-minute epic? One can only speculate, but I'm going to bet it will be better than Clockwork Angels, simply because it might be their last album.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: KevShmev on August 03, 2014, 08:30:08 AM
Every tour, I keep thinking, "This will probably be their last tour," and then they go and tour again. :lol :lol

Realistically, 2-3 more tours is probably a safe bet, although how well Geddy's voice still holds up is a big part of it.  He's really struggled at times over the last few tours, and at 61 now, it's not gonna get any better.  Maybe they'll bust down to only two shows a week to save it.  :lol :lol

Regardless, anything we still get out of them at this point is gravy.  And while the selfish part of me always wants more Rush, the pragmatic part of me wants Clockwork Angels to be their swan song, as I can't see them topping or even equalling that with the next one.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: Nick on August 03, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
Everyone always talks about Geddy, but at the same time, at his age, you gotta think the chances of something happening to Neil that would keep him from playing drums is constantly increasing. It's not like he's playing anything easy, and with the drums if something where to happen to pretty much any part of his body that's it. Carl Palmer has had his obstacles, as has Phil Collins, and I just hope that Neil doesn't run into any issues.

At this point I don't know how many tours they have left, I'm just glad that they've indicated they intend to tour again. I look forward to that, I'll see 3 or 4 shows and hope they're not the last. During a tour I see a show, look forward to the next... repeat... and then when that last one comes around it's really tough not knowing if it'll be the last. On multiple tours I've contemplated near the end of the tour flying out to the final show.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: KevShmev on August 03, 2014, 11:32:12 AM
Yeah, the last few tours, every show I've gone to, I went in thinking it could be the last time I ever see them. 

I remember Geddy on one of the tours (it might have been on the VT tour, on the Rio documentary) where he talked about a problem he had with his hand near the end of a tour.  Given their ages, and how crazy some of the stuff is that they play, it really is amazing that none of their bodies have broken down yet to where they cant play up to their standards.  I know they all keep active, but Father Time is still undefeated.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: snowdog on August 04, 2014, 07:27:55 AM
I think my biggest fear is something bad happens to Neil on his bike.  I don't remember the details but I do remember reading something on Neil's site years ago where he said he came very close to biting it while he was on those back roads. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: TempusVox on August 06, 2014, 05:49:16 PM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: Lucien on August 06, 2014, 06:08:36 PM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

Thanks King! Had some disturbing news today so I'm not able to get anything up today; but I will for sure tomorrow.

 :huh: Don't know if these two quotes are about the same thing.  :|
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 06, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
The one time they don't come to albq and they play that awesome set.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: ? on August 07, 2014, 12:07:50 AM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.
:caffeine: (assuming it's positive news like a tour announcement)
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: theseoafs on August 07, 2014, 08:49:07 AM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

But you just did, see?
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: KevShmev on August 07, 2014, 08:50:32 AM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

Like we all don't know that Geddy is finally relinquishing lead vocal duties to Alex.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: ytserush on August 08, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

Worst kept secret ever! 


 (Please talk about "it" when you can.)


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KevShmev:

Yeah, the last few tours, every show I've gone to, I went in thinking it could be the last time I ever see them.

Been thinking that way ever since the Test For Echo Tour. I really thought they were done then going out with the first  "Evening With" show and playing Natural Science.

I was so convinced I paid a scalper $500 for two 5th row seats at Jones Beach near the end of the last leg of that tour  (Sadly...it almost was the last tour.) Of course, now $500 is regular price for two seats!
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: The Letter M on October 20, 2014, 01:23:09 PM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

I am guessing that this "big news" was the announcement of the R40 box set? I'm still super excited for it, especially the whole show with Rutsey on drums and never-before-seen/heard Rush songs.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2014, 02:56:13 PM
What else is in the Box Set?
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: The Letter M on October 20, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
What else is in the Box Set?

https://www.rush.com/r40-40th-anniversary-collectors-box-set-available-in-dvd-blu-ray/

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2014, 03:22:24 PM
There's a few goodies to be sure, but why repackage their most recent DVDs?  I'd take a late 70's full show, or the Moving Pictures full show.  This looks like a typical soakage of their fans.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: ytserush on October 24, 2014, 02:16:23 PM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

I am guessing that this "big news" was the announcement of the R40 box set? I'm still super excited for it, especially the whole show with Rutsey on drums and never-before-seen/heard Rush songs.

-Marc.

I'm still thinking it's the tour announcement (likely around mid- to late-November.)
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: The Letter M on October 24, 2014, 04:06:27 PM
Big news coming from the band soon. I can't and won't talk about it right now.

I am guessing that this "big news" was the announcement of the R40 box set? I'm still super excited for it, especially the whole show with Rutsey on drums and never-before-seen/heard Rush songs.

-Marc.

I'm still thinking it's the tour announcement (likely around mid- to late-November.)

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rush-tour-2015/

As if on cue, you were right. They're planning a SPRING TOUR next year, for who knows how long.

Wow. I'm not sure if I can save up for this but we'll see...

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 24, 2014, 04:22:46 PM
How much do you suppose nosebleed seats are for them in an area like LA, because, well, I want to go.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 24, 2014, 04:26:03 PM
I'm a little confused.  I though it was going to be called the 41st anniversary tour?!  Since 2015 is 41 years and were know their humor. :lol
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 24, 2014, 04:59:50 PM
I always thought anniversary was the year after a certain event happens. (Ex. after Neil joined the band and they stuck it together, they could have done a one-year anniversary tour in 1975).  With that logic, 2015 is their 40th anniversary, their 41st year as a band.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 24, 2014, 05:10:01 PM
Nobody uses that logic though. :lol
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: Mister Gold on October 24, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Do we have the tour dates yet? I'm hoping for a show in Raleigh or Charlotte. I'd love to at least be able to see Rush a second time before they hang it up! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2014, 10:21:58 PM
Of course I'll end up travelling for them, but Allentown just built a new arena, and it's been my fondest hope they end up with a date there.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: ytserush on October 26, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
Of course I'll end up travelling for them, but Allentown just built a new arena, and it's been my fondest hope they end up with a date there.

I suspect there's a decent chance of that happening if Philly/Camden are left off the itinerary during one of the legs. Very possible.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: mike099 on October 27, 2014, 12:18:43 PM
Great news about the tour.  I know most will disagree with me, but would love to hear more 70's than the 80's.  Some have said that Geddy cannot hit the vocal notes on those songs.  Who cares, it is all about the music. ;D 
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: The Letter M on October 27, 2014, 01:08:32 PM
Personally, I'd love to see more of the unplayed 90's and 00's material, especially from Presto, Roll The Bones, Test For Echo and Vapor Trails. We know Geddy's voice isn't what it used to be, and I think the newer material suits him better now. Heck, even more 80's stuff would be great as there are still a ton of songs from GUP and HYF they could play live for the the first time in years.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: KevShmev on October 27, 2014, 01:17:31 PM
They definitely need to dig deeper into HYF, which has only seen three songs played since the HYF tour.  Prime Mover or Turn the Page need to come back, or play Open Secrets finally.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: The Letter M on October 27, 2014, 01:50:57 PM
They definitely need to dig deeper into HYF, which has only seen three songs played since the HYF tour.  Prime Mover or Turn the Page need to come back, or play Open Secrets finally.

Definitely, all of this, plus break out "Lock And Key" again, with an extended drum solo at the end where Neil can just go wild.

Also, just bring out "Available Light". I think it would sound great as a closer for the first set, to be honest, if anywhere.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2014, 01:54:18 PM
I love Available Light.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 27, 2014, 02:22:16 PM
Personally, I'd love to see more of the unplayed 90's and 00's material, especially from Presto, Roll The Bones, Test For Echo and Vapor Trails.
:tup
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: ? on October 28, 2014, 07:23:03 AM
As someone who's never seen Rush live and likes pretty much all their albums, I'd be happy to see them play anything, but considering Geddy's voice these days I agree it'd be wise to concentrate on post-70s material.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: mike099 on October 29, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
As someone who's never seen Rush live and likes pretty much all their albums, I'd be happy to see them play anything, but considering Geddy's voice these days I agree it'd be wise to concentrate on post-70s material.

Hoping you get to see Rush someday.  I am fairly new to Rush and my first concert was Time Machine and then attended the Clockwork Angels tour, both in Nashville Tennessee.  I see you are from Finland.  The band I am into now is Beardfish from Sweden.  Would love to see them and Haken, but not much chance Beardfish will come to the Southeast US.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R41 Tour? And The Future Of Live Rush!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2014, 06:33:22 AM
There's a few goodies to be sure, but why repackage their most recent DVDs?  I'd take a late 70's full show, or the Moving Pictures full show.  This looks like a typical soakage of their fans.

Ha..I may actually get the R40 set. I only have the Rush In Rio DVD, so I don't have everything else. Maybe on my Christmas list.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: ? on October 30, 2014, 10:25:09 AM
As someone who's never seen Rush live and likes pretty much all their albums, I'd be happy to see them play anything, but considering Geddy's voice these days I agree it'd be wise to concentrate on post-70s material.

Hoping you get to see Rush someday.  I am fairly new to Rush and my first concert was Time Machine and then attended the Clockwork Angels tour, both in Nashville Tennessee.  I see you are from Finland.  The band I am into now is Beardfish from Sweden.  Would love to see them and Haken, but not much chance Beardfish will come to the Southeast US.
Yeah, Rush played in Helsinki last year, but I hadn't heard any of the albums between Moving Pictures and Clockwork Angels yet and didn't go. In hindsight I wish I had gone, but at least next time I'll know and enjoy every song! I hope at least Mystic Rhythms and Xanadu will be played.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: ytserush on November 02, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
I love Available Light.

I would freak if they ever played that.
Maybe it comes down to Geddy being confident to attempt it.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: jammindude on November 02, 2014, 01:11:31 PM
I love Available Light.

I would freak if they ever played that.
Maybe it comes down to Geddy being confident to attempt it.

I would also freak.  Absolutely KILLER song.   But there is one reason I don't believe we will ever hear it.   It's no secret that Geddy has been struggling more and more with high notes as the years go on.   The high note in the chorus is what really makes that song.    I don't think he's even tried a note that high in quite some time...not even in the studio.     And considering that not only is that note really high, but it's also at a point where the music stops and he's "on his own" acapella...  There's really nothing to cover him if he blows it.    He's probably wise to not even try.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: Lucien on November 02, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Also because the just rarely play their ballads on stage. Halo Effect is like the one exception I remember. Available Light, Different Strings, Madrigal, etc etc haven't been played at all.
Title: Re: Rush Live - R40/R41 Tour Starting In SPRING 2015!!!
Post by: KevShmev on November 03, 2014, 12:05:31 PM
Agreed, jammindude.  Too much room for failure, given, like you said, the several seconds of "on his own" acapella.  That could be a reason they haven't done Nobody's Hero since the 90s since that has a similar thing during the lead-in to each chorus, and he even struggled with that a bit in '94 and '96/'97.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: The Letter M on November 01, 2015, 10:02:32 PM
It has been just about one year since the last post in this thread, but with the close release of the upcoming and amazingly quick-turnaround-release of the R40 Live album and video, I figured I'd finally update this thread at least one more time.

So, after the rousing success of the Clockwork Angels Tour, with the band's first mini-string orchestra performing with them for most of the 2nd set, what could the band do to top that on their next tour? With no new material on the board, they decided to pull out a lot of songs they hadn't played in a VERY long time, and I mean a long Long LONG time. When the setlists began pouring in from the first dozen shows (which had a lot of variation as they went on), there was a lot of talk about the song selection. I cannot imagine being anyone seeing them in the middle or end of that tour and trying to avoid setlist spoilers on the internet because they were EVERYWHERE and even if you glimpsed at a tour review headline, you were probably spoiled by citations of "Jacob's Ladder" or "What You're Doing".

Fans, critics, reviewers, music columnists, and everyone in-between, were all very excited about this tour, especially with the looming notion that this was likely their last major tour...EVER! So in celebration of their long 40+ year career, the band decided to take the concept to the stage and live it all again, by changing the stage as their songs went back in time, an amazing visual treat for fans who saw them, and a trip down memory lane the band as well as the audience.

The idea of playing a set in chronological order (forward or reverse) isn't new, but to invite the stage design into that concept was something quite interesting, and I applaud the band for doing something so fresh and bold, especially to end the show with amps on chairs and nothing by their hands and instruments around them! Also, can I just add that the "new" old drum kit DW made for Neil Peart?! WHO ELSE WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT?!? THOSE CONCERT TOMS?! THOSE CHIMES?!? THE WHOLE THING!!!!


...I was. I never thought Neil would play a double-bass kit with Rush ever again, or have concert toms, or anything like that from before the Roll The Bones Tour. And to bring out the kit for only half a show...what dedication! Especially to learn all of the 2nd half of the show on the old kit...what a guy, what a guy! And then Geddy AND Alex bringing out the double-necks for "Xanadu"!!!!! Although I still find it sad that the ending of the song wasn't played the way it was on the studio album... I miss that little part with the snare rolls and the bells...AH well.

From the Power Windows fan site:
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Rush's R40 Tour celebrated their 40th Anniversary with a unique setlist which traveled backward through time. Beginning with the opening song, the setlist covered their entire career from Clockwork Angels back to their bar days, finishing with a brief teaser of "Garden Road". As the show progressed backward in time, the stage props and video backdrops also "devolved" to coincide with the songs being played. Beginning with the sets used on the Clockwork Angels tour, they were later replaced with the dryers used on the Vapor Trails and R30 tours, followed by the backline used on the Test For Echo tour, and so on. (The Snakes & Arrows chicken roasters were not included in the props). During the second set, the R40 drum kit was replaced with a retro kit dubbed "El Darko" which featured double bass drums, tubular bells, and more throwbacks to an earlier time.

Alex Lifeson confirmed "We've got three sets - A, B, C" which featured alternating songs from the same respective albums. Set A included "Red Barchetta," "Distant Early Warning," "One Little Victory," and "Clockwork Angels"; those songs were replaced in Set B with their respective album-mates "The Camera Eye," "Between The Wheels," "How It Is," and "The Wreckers". Set C was nearly the same as A, except "YYZ" replaced "Red Barchetta," and "Natural Science" was added as a bonus track (without replacing another song). During five shows of the tour, the Clockwork Angels alternate track was dropped to make room for Signals' "Losing It" (click for details).

Digging deep for these setlists, "Losing It" and "How It Is" were performed for the first time ever, and while most of the songs from the first half of the show had been performed on relatively recent tours, many of those performed after the intermission had not been performed in decades: "Jacob's Ladder" was last played in 1980; "Hemispheres: Prelude" in 1994; "Cygnus X-1: Part 3" in 1980 ("Prologue" was played in 2002); "Lakeside Park" in 1978; and "What You're Doing" in 1977. Closing out the show was a teaser of "Garden Road", an unreleased original song last performed on tour in 1974. Albums not represented on this tour were Power Windows, Hold Your Fire, Presto and Test for Echo.

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Just like last tour with the Clockwork Angels live album, we are once again treated to a whole show along with alternate-night bonus tracks! This is quite a treat to be able to see and hear all of the songs performed on the tour, and what a set list selection this tour had!

Disc 1 - ??:??
The World is .. The World is ... (Intro)
The Anarchist
Headlong Flight/Drumbastica
Far Cry
The Main Monkey Business
How It Is
Animate
Roll The Bones
Between The Wheels
Losing It (with Ben Mink)
Subdivisions

Disc 2 - ??:??
Tom Sawyer
YYZ
The Spirit Of Radio
Natural Science
Jacob's Ladder
Hemispheres: Prelude
Cygnus X-1 [Prologue/The Story So Far (drum solo)/Part 3]
Closer To The Heart
Xanadu
2112 [Parts I, II, IV and VII]

Disc 3 - ??:??
Mel's Rockpile (with Eugene Levy) (Intro)
Lakeside Park/Anthem
What You're Doing/Working Man
--------Bonus Tracks--------
One Little Victory
Distant Early Warning
Red Barchetta
Clockwork Angels
The Wreckers
The Camera Eye
Losing It (with Jonathan Dinklage)

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What a treat this official release is! SEVEN bonus tracks on the CD, including an alternate version of "Losing It", the VIP song of the tour, performed only FIVE times, so we've got two of the five officially released!!! On top of that, we get the six songs that were swapped in and out of the sets this tour.

Sadly enough, as mentioned above, no songs from TFE, Presto, HYF or POW were performed, though I can forgive the last one because we got SO MUCH POW-love on the last tour, and in the last 15 years, they've played all but one of the songs from that album live, so we've got a fairly good representation of the album since the VT tour. But there was such a missed opportunity to pull out some hidden gems from the other three albums.

Still, what we DID get from the show's second set makes up for those missed chances, because getting to hear half of Permanent Waves in one go is surely an amazing thing of beauty. Between that and four songs from MP, as well as half of AFTK and the Prelude from "Hemispheres", there's a TON of that golden-era Rush here, as well as the longest version of "2112" since the full version was played on the TFE tour in 97. In fact, the whole second disc of this set will likely get a LOT of spins once I get this in the mail. I mean, just LOOK at that set!!! I am almost tempted to take the whole show and "mix in" the bonus tracks into their proper chronological places (OLV after HII, DEW after BTW, TS/RB/YYZ/TCE, and the other CA songs somewhere in the beginning).

Anyways, hopefully this isn't the last time I ever update this thread. I know a lot of European fans wished the band had brought this show across seas, but that now seems unlikely as the band have taken time off since the tour ended a couple of months ago. The future isn't clear, but you can bet I hope there will be another tour somewhere down the line, and when that comes, I won't miss it like I did with this tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: The Curious Orange on November 02, 2015, 05:28:23 AM
While I'm more than disappointed they didn't bring this show over here to Europe (Surely we deserved it?), I for one can't wait to get my grubby mits on the DVD...
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: The Letter M on November 03, 2015, 12:15:49 PM
While I'm more than disappointed they didn't bring this show over here to Europe (Surely we deserved it?), I for one can't wait to get my grubby mits on the DVD...

I live in America and I missed my chance to see them live, so I'm just as pumped to get my hands on the BR/3CD set I pre-ordered!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 08:07:46 PM
no songs from TFE, Presto, HYF or POW were performed

The lack of material from the 80's and 90's really hurts the set IMHO.  I'll of course still buy the damn thing though. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: sfam2112 on November 03, 2015, 10:20:02 PM
no songs from TFE, Presto, HYF or POW were performed

The lack of material from the 80's and 90's really hurts the set IMHO.  I'll of course still buy the damn thing though.

I can understand the lack of Power Windows but I was disappointed with the absence of Presto and Test For Echo, in particular. But, other than that, I like the set. Looking forward to the DVD.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 03, 2015, 11:35:22 PM
I think that since there is probably a general consensus that Presto, Test For Echo, and Hold Your Fire is among the lesser acclaimed Rush albums, the guys probably felt that it would not be the best representation of themselves.  Though I would have liked something like Driven or Half the World.  You replace Far Cry or One Little Victory with either of those and I think it would have fit well in the middle part of the 1st set.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jjrock88 on November 04, 2015, 01:13:50 AM
I'm surprised Limelight wasn't included.  That song is usually a given
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
Tom Sawyer clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90GtbhUMtc
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Stadler on November 06, 2015, 12:51:36 PM
I think there is a rational explanation for the omission that lets the band off the hook pretty solidly:

-  they've been pretty heavily criticized by the fan base that they "don't play enough old stuff"
-  the Clockwork Angels live set had a whole disk of stuff from Signals forward, plus a second of all of Clockwork Angels
-  as it is, the set is what, 2.5 hours long
-  they gave a little leeway on the "new" to those songs that haven't been played to death on recent tours
-  and otherwise, you got a freaking Christmas morning of gifts on the second and third disks.

If the biggest crime of this set is there isn't another version of "Big Money" (a song I love, by the way), well, I chalk that up as a win.  And for the record, Presto is in my top three Rush albums.  I love it, but after the rest of that set, hoping for War Paint or Superconductor is just being greedy.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
I think there is a rational explanation for the omission that lets the band off the hook pretty solidly:

-  they've been pretty heavily criticized by the fan base that they "don't play enough old stuff"
-  the Clockwork Angels live set had a whole disk of stuff from Signals forward, plus a second of all of Clockwork Angels
-  as it is, the set is what, 2.5 hours long
-  they gave a little leeway on the "new" to those songs that haven't been played to death on recent tours
-  and otherwise, you got a freaking Christmas morning of gifts on the second and third disks.

If the biggest crime of this set is there isn't another version of "Big Money" (a song I love, by the way), well, I chalk that up as a win. 

:iagree:

with everything in that post.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2015, 01:48:05 PM
I think there is a rational explanation for the omission that lets the band off the hook pretty solidly:

-  they've been pretty heavily criticized by the fan base that they "don't play enough old stuff"
-  the Clockwork Angels live set had a whole disk of stuff from Signals forward, plus a second of all of Clockwork Angels
-  as it is, the set is what, 2.5 hours long
-  they gave a little leeway on the "new" to those songs that haven't been played to death on recent tours
-  and otherwise, you got a freaking Christmas morning of gifts on the second and third disks.

If the biggest crime of this set is there isn't another version of "Big Money" (a song I love, by the way), well, I chalk that up as a win.  And for the record, Presto is in my top three Rush albums.  I love it, but after the rest of that set, hoping for War Paint or Superconductor is just being greedy.

I love Presto too, but hoping for War Paint is just..silly.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: me7 on November 19, 2015, 05:07:12 AM
How was Geddy's vocal performance on this tour overall? On the Tom Sawyer clip it's so bad that it distracts me from enjoying the song.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2015, 05:09:31 AM
How was Geddy's vocal performance on this tour?

Stellar.  Best it's been in a while, imo.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on November 19, 2015, 05:58:52 AM
If the biggest crime of this set is there isn't another version of "Big Money" (a song I love, by the way), well, I chalk that up as a win.  And for the record, Presto is in my top three Rush albums.  I love it, but after the rest of that set, hoping for War Paint or Superconductor is just being greedy.
I agree with TAC on your wishes for War Paint or Stupidconductor, and it'd be a pipe dream for Geddy to manage to do Available Light. But, it would've been nice to have something from Presto - so many songs from that album never played live. And IMO it is completely inexcusable that they played Animate AGAIN and skipped over Cut to the Chase, a song that many fans have been dying to hear from their more recent albums. The excuse that they didn't do anything from HYF for the same reason they didn't do anything from PoW is lame too. I totally get not including anything from PoW this time around, but something other than Force 10, Time Stand Still or Mission could have been a great inclusion, especially given that only one song from that album has been played on any given tour for umpteen years now. And while it's by no means my favorite album, something from T4E should've been included, as long as it wasn't The Color of Right or especially Dog Years or Viruality.

I am grateful for what they did do, and I enjoyed the show immensely, especially as I was fortunate enough to see Losing It, but still disappointed at all the other choices lost, perhaps forever if they stop performing live completely.
 
 
How was Geddy's vocal performance on this tour overall? On the Tom Sawyer clip it's so bad that it distracts me from enjoying the song.
While his voice is nowhere near what it used to be, overall I haven't had a problem with it like you and others have, including the clips they've released from R40 Live. However, when I did see them in LA, I was genuinely concerned that he might not make it through the show, right as it started! To me, it really seemed like he was struggling during the first few (ironically newer) songs, but as the show progressed, he seemed to get into more of a groove and sung much better.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2015, 06:01:45 AM
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs. 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2015, 06:05:50 AM
I didn't see a show on this tour, but I followed it closely watching tons of videos and downloading a few boots. The band really seemed possessed on this tour especially Neil. He played and sounded spectacularly.

And Scott, I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2015, 06:19:25 AM
They will never satisfy us fans. 

I was to tired of seeing Far Cry on tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jammindude on November 19, 2015, 06:25:03 AM
I didn't see a show on this tour, but I followed it closely watching tons of videos and downloading a few boots. The band really seemed possessed on this tour especially Neil. He played and sounded spectacularly.

And Scott, I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.

I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2015, 06:28:32 AM
I didn't see a show on this tour, but I followed it closely watching tons of videos and downloading a few boots. The band really seemed possessed on this tour especially Neil. He played and sounded spectacularly.

And Scott, I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.

I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.

I know you are but what am I. ;D
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on November 19, 2015, 07:10:27 AM
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs.
Far Cry - drop and switch between HYF and T4E songs (in the appropriate places in the setlist), perhaps Open Secrets or Lock and Key, and T4E or Time and Motion
One Little Victory - either Vapor Trail or Nocturne
Animate - Cut to the Chase or Alien Shore
Roll The Bones - Red Tide or Available Light (if Geddy could manage)
Distant Early Warning - Enemy Within
Subdivisions - The Weapon
Red Barchetta - Witch Hunt (they missed the perfect opportunity to do at least the first 3 parts of Fear)
 
 
I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.
Agreed, along with about half of both RtB and T4E.
 
 
I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.
Yeah, but you think T4E is awesome and CP is meh, so your opinion is null and void!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Stadler on November 19, 2015, 07:19:21 AM
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs.
Far Cry - drop and switch between HYF and T4E songs (in the appropriate places in the setlist), perhaps Open Secrets or Lock and Key, and T4E or Time and Motion
One Little Victory - either Vapor Trail or Nocturne
Animate - Cut to the Chase or Alien Shore
Roll The Bones - Red Tide or Available Light (if Geddy could manage)
Distant Early Warning - Enemy Within
Subdivisions - The Weapon
Red Barchetta - Witch Hunt (they missed the perfect opportunity to do at least the first 3 parts of Fear)
 
 
I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.
Agreed, along with about half of both RtB and T4E.
 
 
I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.
Yeah, but you think T4E is awesome and CP is meh, so your opinion is null and void!   :biggrin:

Scotty, not arguing with you at all, but asking a question of someone who is closer to the song choices than I am.

Is there any credence to the idea that some songs were included only because they didn't have the learning curve of others?  Meaning, "Hey, let's play something from Counterparts; how about, since we're already learning Losing It and relearning x, Y, Z, let's just do Animate because it's closer to 'ready to go'"?   I don't necessarily mean "taking the easy way out", but a setlist is like a path through the woods or a video game; in some spots there is danger and hard, and in others, there is a spot to breath.

I'm just thinking out loud here.  I don't disagree with the suggestions (though I don't back off from what I said earlier, either). 
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2015, 07:36:46 AM
That's certainly plausible Stadler. It's either that or they feel strongly about that song, both singularly and as representative of that particular era.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: jammindude on November 19, 2015, 11:08:34 AM
 :rollin


Seriously love you guys!
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on November 19, 2015, 11:18:01 AM
That's certainly plausible Stadler. It's either that or they feel strongly about that song, both singularly and as representative of that particular era.
I agree with TAC that it's possible, altho I'd wager it's probably more likely to be a particular favorite of their's to perform, as I believe is also the case with RtB. Still wish they would've at least swapped those two out with other songs so at least some of the setlists didn't have them, but nothing can be done about that - their show, so they call the shots.
 
 
Seriously love you guys!
And we love you too, just the way we love our weird black-sheep uncle who's been arrested and put in insane asylums for half his life.   
 
 
 
:biggrin:
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: KevShmev on November 19, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
Given what they gave us on the tour, I think just about any criticism of the set list is picking serious nits. 

Animate was a great choice.  It hadn't been played in over 10 years, it is one of their best songs from the 90s, and was a great song to represent that era of them returning to hard rock (1993-1996) before their four years off.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: ytserush on December 06, 2015, 12:04:30 PM
I'm OK with it.

I still think I like the Clockwork Angels DVD better mostly.

But I love the first set, the light show, the fun they're having and Geddy's bass collection.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: The Letter M on November 12, 2017, 07:55:32 PM
Nearly two years after this thread had moved on, I've decided to resurrect it given the not-so-recent news that the upcoming 40th Anniversary edition of A Farewell To Kings will feature the ENTIRE Hammersmith Odeon show from 1978. The show, originally released as a single-disc bonus on the band's fourth live album Different Stages, it omitted four tracks - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112" and Neil's drum solo. The biggest of these, of course, is the inclusion of "2112", which features "III. Discovery" in its entirety, which was not played in full on the version found on All The World's A Stage. This was the longest version of the song the band had played from the 2112 tour all the way til the Test For Echo Tour in 1996, so having a soundboard recording, officially released mind you, of this version of "2112" is surely a gem to my ears and eyes.

Below is my original post, documenting the Drive 'Til You Die tour, including my original cut of my Rush Live Tours compilation, which will soon be rendered obsolete now that the whole Hammersmith Odeon show will come out. I am super excited to have the WHOLE show, FINALLY, and it makes me wonder if the band have had access to more full soundboards.

The Hemispheres Tour has a couple of great complete soundboards, but from there on, there are some gaps here and there...
-Permanent Waves (though there are many great partials)
-Moving Pictures (the band SURELY have a complete show of this tour somewhere)
-Signals (as far as I know, there are no great soundboards, if any)
-Grace Under Pressure (several soundboards, and one official but partial show, but nothing complete)
-Power Windows (the Philly show is great, but is missing the last 24 minutes of the show, and a cut in "Red Sector A")
-Hold Your Fire (a near complete Birmingham show is the best we've got, missing "Limelight", and a few bits at the end of the show)

After the HYF tour, there have been pretty complete soundboards of great quality, and after TFE, full complete shows (with a few exceptions of some songs, like no soundboard release of "Time And Motion" from the TFE Tour, or "Ceiling Unlimited" from the VT Tour.

I wonder if, in the coming years, we will get 40th Anniversary editions of the 1980's albums and if so, we will be treated to complete shows from those tours?! The PEW and SIG tours are probably ones I'd want the most, as they're probably the most incomplete when it comes to having good boots of them, despite how great the St. Louis 80 show is, it's still incomplete (even with the inclusion of ESL tracks from that tour).


Touring on their first studio album in what would retroactively be named their 2nd Phase, Rush embarked on (what I'm pretty sure was) their longest tour yet, or at least, the one with the most dates, covering North America from August 17, 1977 to May 28, 1978

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Opened For: Blue Oyster Cult
Opening Bands: UFO, Max Webster, AC/DC, Cheap Trick, Pat Travers, The Babys, Hush, Grinderswitch, Crawler, Uriah Heep

According to the Power Windows website, they still did opening sets, but only for Blue Oyster Cult. Otherwise, they were headlining, and with 5 albums worth of material, they had a LOT of music to choose from to cover.

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This is the last tour Rush performed any shows as a supporting band. Although shows early in the tour featured a setlist with "Cygnus X-1" preceding "Something For Nothing", eventually those songs traded places and the setlist was standardized for the rest of the tour with the exception being that "Anthem" was dropped occasionally for unknown reasons. This is the last tour to include the song "Fly By Night".

Bastille Day
Lakeside Park
By-Tor and the Snow Dog (abbreviated)->
Xanadu
A Farewell to Kings
Something For Nothing
Cygnus X-1
Anthem (dropped from 12/10/77, 2/17 & 2/23/78 shows)
Closer To The Heart
2112 (minus Oracle)
Working Man
Fly by Night
In The Mood
Drum Solo
Encore: Cinderella Man

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This tour's compilation mostly comes from the official live release of a AFTK show in the Different Stages live set. However, three songs (and Neil's solo) were missing/taken out of the Hammersmith Odeon show - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112", the last two likely due to their inclusion in the first disc of Different Stages from the Test For Echo Tour.
With that in mind, I chose one of the better sounding Audience recordings of that tour to fill in the gaps.

Rush - A Farewell To Kings Tour - 94:50
(Live In London, UK on 2/19/78)
(Different Stages - Official Release)

Disc 1 - 47:22
 1. Bastille Day       5:05
 2. Lakeside Park*       4:26
 3. By-Tor & The Snow Dog    5:11
 4. Xanadu         12:21
 5. A Farewell To Kings       5:54
 6. Something For Nothing    4:00
 7. Cygnus X-1         10:25

Disc 2 - 47:28
 1. Anthem          4:54
 2. Closer To The Heart*    3:10
 3. 2112*         19:08
 4. Working Man          4:00
 5. Fly By Night       2:04
 6. In The Mood          2:36
 7. Drum Solo*          5:25
 8. Cinderella Man       5:09

*Missing songs fillled in by:
(Ron's Vault Release #5 - AUD)
(Live In Fresno, CA on 9/28/77)

32:09 - Non-SB Sourced
   
The Hammersmith show is pretty good, and being an official release, it's not hard to have any better, despite the 3 missing pieces, although any die-hard Rush fan wouldn't mind not having CTTH on a release (though this would be the first tour with it), or "Lakeside Park" (with the ATWAS version sufficing). The true missing gem would be a slightly longer version of "2112" than presented on ATWAS, but that's not a BIG loss.

As for the rest of the show itself, it's pretty amazing! You get FOUR new songs from the then-new album, as well as the awe-inspiring medley of "By-Tor & The Snow Dog"/"Xanadu".

To end the show, we get yet another "Working Man" Medley, and the unusual decision to put a NEW song in the encore (something the band has rarely done, but would later do on tours in the 80's). Over-all, this set list is as expected for this tour, although one might miss complete versions of songs from their first two albums, they now had 3 songs over 10-minutes long being played, and with that number of epics, they had to shortened songs. Which I am perfectly okay with considering how great "Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage" is.


-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: DragonAttack on November 15, 2017, 09:38:36 PM
New to this thread, appreciate the work involved, and taking my time with it to savor the info (and memories).
Title: Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
Post by: Architeuthis on November 16, 2017, 12:04:33 AM
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs.
Drop Animate, give us CTTC.. :metal
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: ytserush on November 16, 2017, 05:31:04 PM
Nearly two years after this thread had moved on, I've decided to resurrect it given the not-so-recent news that the upcoming 40th Anniversary edition of A Farewell To Kings will feature the ENTIRE Hammersmith Odeon show from 1978. The show, originally released as a single-disc bonus on the band's fourth live album Different Stages, it omitted four tracks - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112" and Neil's drum solo. The biggest of these, of course, is the inclusion of "2112", which features "III. Discovery" in its entirety, which was not played in full on the version found on All The World's A Stage. This was the longest version of the song the band had played from the 2112 tour all the way til the Test For Echo Tour in 1996, so having a soundboard recording, officially released mind you, of this version of "2112" is surely a gem to my ears and eyes.

Below is my original post, documenting the Drive 'Til You Die tour, including my original cut of my Rush Live Tours compilation, which will soon be rendered obsolete now that the whole Hammersmith Odeon show will come out. I am super excited to have the WHOLE show, FINALLY, and it makes me wonder if the band have had access to more full soundboards.

The Hemispheres Tour has a couple of great complete soundboards, but from there on, there are some gaps here and there...
-Permanent Waves (though there are many great partials)
-Moving Pictures (the band SURELY have a complete show of this tour somewhere)
-Signals (as far as I know, there are no great soundboards, if any)
-Grace Under Pressure (several soundboards, and one official but partial show, but nothing complete)
-Power Windows (the Philly show is great, but is missing the last 24 minutes of the show, and a cut in "Red Sector A")
-Hold Your Fire (a near complete Birmingham show is the best we've got, missing "Limelight", and a few bits at the end of the show)

After the HYF tour, there have been pretty complete soundboards of great quality, and after TFE, full complete shows (with a few exceptions of some songs, like no soundboard release of "Time And Motion" from the TFE Tour, or "Ceiling Unlimited" from the VT Tour.

I wonder if, in the coming years, we will get 40th Anniversary editions of the 1980's albums and if so, we will be treated to complete shows from those tours?! The PEW and SIG tours are probably ones I'd want the most, as they're probably the most incomplete when it comes to having good boots of them, despite how great the St. Louis 80 show is, it's still incomplete (even with the inclusion of ESL tracks from that tour).



Soundboards are nice and all but there a bunch of really great performances on audience recordings that I think that are just as good if not better.   Many of them can likely be found earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
Post by: The Letter M on November 21, 2017, 11:38:16 AM
Soundboards are nice and all but there a bunch of really great performances on audience recordings that I think that are just as good if not better.   Many of them can likely be found earlier in this thread.

Oh I am sure there are plenty of great A-level audience recordings out there, especially based on performance alone, but the kind of polish that some soundboards have just elevate the recordings for me to my ears. Mostly, though, I just look for COMPLETE shows, soundboard or not, and some of my personal tour shows I keep in a CD-r Wallet as my Complete Tours Set are full audience shows (like the ATWAS and Signals tours).

I'm just saying, if there's a chance that Rush themselves have at LEAST one decent, complete soundboard from each tour, it would be a treat for us fans if they released them with whatever upcoming anniversary sets they may do. I know we already have a few complete soundboards from the Hemispheres tour, but I'd be excited if they released a whole show with proper mixing and mastering. And of course, the complete St. Louis 80 would be a treat as that show sounds so crisp already, having the whole thing would be amazing.

I guess, until then, we do have amazing soundboards AND audience shows that circulate (though it seems in the last decade or so, discoveries of un-released ROIO's have slimmed down).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: ytserush on November 22, 2017, 08:17:42 PM
It would be great if that St. Louis 1980 show were complete, but it was originally released as a radio broadcast (2 LPs 90 minutes) so I think that even if those tapes survived, they aren't in releasable shape.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: The Letter M on January 12, 2020, 12:28:25 AM
Some shameless bumping here, but with the news, I decided to revisit my live Rush Tourography albums in my car during my commutes. Hearing the young, 1974 Neil Peart bang away at those early Rush songs is invigorating and inspiring. I wonder if any of those kids at those Cleveland shows ever stayed fans, kept going to their concerts through the 70s and the 80s, stuck it out through 90s and 00s, and have stayed fans all this time. I wonder how many of them at the Agora Ballroom are now mourning the loss of the drummer they saw back then, the NEW guy in the band.

Anyways, I figured it might be fun for folks to revisit this thread in addition to Kev's amazing Discography Thread. Not only were Rush a very prolific and talented studio band, but their live shows were no slouch either, and they produced some of the best rock concerts throughout the decades. I would love to hear folks' thoughts on various tours, shows they remember, favorite Neil drum solos, etc. The band were a beast of a live act, and I am glad that they were able to bow out when they did, with style and grace, and on their own terms. Starting at the 74 Rush tour, I am excited to revisit all of he tours and shows I have, but sad to approach the end, knowing that R40 is the end. To quote Marillion - "Happiness ain't at the end of the road / Happiness IS the road".

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: Lupton on January 12, 2020, 01:40:38 AM
Sorry total newbie here and I apologize for butting in like this. I've been following this thread since the Tour of the Spheres. Many thanks to Nick for hosting these show!   :hefdaddy

So...I pulled down the GUP show only to find that it is actually really a superb soundboard recording from the Power Windows tour (4/16/86) .  So it looks like we got an album ahead. All good end results though....as I've normally just lurked and read on these forums, noticing this caused me to register and post here for the 1st time just so I could point this out. Any chance of hearing a show from the GUP tour? (I've always wanted to hear Kid Gloves live)

Anyway. Great thread and again many thanks to Nick for the shows. Soundboard recordings of Rush on ANY tour are a great thing to have!

^^ This is why I registered on this forum. All hail Nick!!

[edit: Still want to hear Kid Gloves Live!]
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2020, 06:23:17 AM
Some shameless bumping here, but with the news, I decided to revisit my live Rush Tourography albums in my car during my commutes. Hearing the young, 1974 Neil Peart bang away at those early Rush songs is invigorating and inspiring. I wonder if any of those kids at those Cleveland shows ever stayed fans, kept going to their concerts through the 70s and the 80s, stuck it out through 90s and 00s, and have stayed fans all this time. I wonder how many of them at the Agora Ballroom are now mourning the loss of the drummer they saw back then, the NEW guy in the band.

Anyways, I figured it might be fun for folks to revisit this thread in addition to Kev's amazing Discography Thread. Not only were Rush a very prolific and talented studio band, but their live shows were no slouch either, and they produced some of the best rock concerts throughout the decades. I would love to hear folks' thoughts on various tours, shows they remember, favorite Neil drum solos, etc. The band were a beast of a live act, and I am glad that they were able to bow out when they did, with style and grace, and on their own terms. Starting at the 74 Rush tour, I am excited to revisit all of he tours and shows I have, but sad to approach the end, knowing that R40 is the end. To quote Marillion - "Happiness ain't at the end of the road / Happiness IS the road".

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: DTA on January 12, 2020, 07:06:03 AM
I'm going to have to dig through this thread. Setlist data and song inclusion is a huge fascination of mine, with Rush being especially interesting. They are one of the only bands I can think of whose setlists got way better as their careers went on. Most older bands just stick to the hits, a token song or two off whatever new album they're promoting, and call it a night after 1.5 hours.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: The Letter M on January 12, 2020, 10:20:16 AM
I'm going to have to dig through this thread. Setlist data and song inclusion is a huge fascination of mine, with Rush being especially interesting. They are one of the only bands I can think of whose setlists got way better as their careers went on. Most older bands just stick to the hits, a token song or two off whatever new album they're promoting, and call it a night after 1.5 hours.

I hope you find all the information that I, and others, have presented here useful to you! A lot of what I shared came from the PowerWindows website, which has (had?) a comprehensive tour page with dates and setlist variations and other useful tidbits. I also used the Rush ROIO website Digital Rush Experience - an encyclopedic archive of tour bootlegs and shows. Between those sources, I cobbled together my own personal Live Discography that covers the best shows from each tour (based on sound and completeness of show). It's amazing how many soundboards and great audience bootlegs have existed for this band over the years and that the fans have been able to keep track of much of it!

The 70s and 80s shows are some of their best, and I agree with you about Rush being able to keep their sets fresh. They didn't rely on the same 10-12 hits each tour, but strove to show off their new material, and up to Counterparts, played more than half of their new album live throughout each tour! A shame they didn't do that for Vapor Trails (though they did make up for it with an odd new song here and there in the last decade of their touring). And even when they didn't have a lot of new material to promote (R30, Time Machine Tour, R40), they still found a way to make their setlists exciting!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: ytserush on January 12, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
Sorry total newbie here and I apologize for butting in like this. I've been following this thread since the Tour of the Spheres. Many thanks to Nick for hosting these show!   :hefdaddy

So...I pulled down the GUP show only to find that it is actually really a superb soundboard recording from the Power Windows tour (4/16/86) .  So it looks like we got an album ahead. All good end results though....as I've normally just lurked and read on these forums, noticing this caused me to register and post here for the 1st time just so I could point this out. Any chance of hearing a show from the GUP tour? (I've always wanted to hear Kid Gloves live)

Anyway. Great thread and again many thanks to Nick for the shows. Soundboard recordings of Rush on ANY tour are a great thing to have!

^^ This is why I registered on this forum. All hail Nick!!

[edit: Still want to hear Kid Gloves Live!]

I believe 9/27/84 is your ticket for that.  And of course several other good shows from that tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: ytserush on January 12, 2020, 07:36:57 PM
Some shameless bumping here, but with the news, I decided to revisit my live Rush Tourography albums in my car during my commutes. Hearing the young, 1974 Neil Peart bang away at those early Rush songs is invigorating and inspiring. I wonder if any of those kids at those Cleveland shows ever stayed fans, kept going to their concerts through the 70s and the 80s, stuck it out through 90s and 00s, and have stayed fans all this time. I wonder how many of them at the Agora Ballroom are now mourning the loss of the drummer they saw back then, the NEW guy in the band.

Anyways, I figured it might be fun for folks to revisit this thread in addition to Kev's amazing Discography Thread. Not only were Rush a very prolific and talented studio band, but their live shows were no slouch either, and they produced some of the best rock concerts throughout the decades. I would love to hear folks' thoughts on various tours, shows they remember, favorite Neil drum solos, etc. The band were a beast of a live act, and I am glad that they were able to bow out when they did, with style and grace, and on their own terms. Starting at the 74 Rush tour, I am excited to revisit all of he tours and shows I have, but sad to approach the end, knowing that R40 is the end. To quote Marillion - "Happiness ain't at the end of the road / Happiness IS the road".

-Marc.

When I get the desire back again, I've already decided I'm going with 8/14/74. (and perhaps the JR Flood demos.) and the 2002 Hartford show won't be far behind. Maybe I'll use that to kick it off.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: ytserush on January 12, 2020, 07:39:01 PM
I'm going to have to dig through this thread. Setlist data and song inclusion is a huge fascination of mine, with Rush being especially interesting. They are one of the only bands I can think of whose setlists got way better as their careers went on. Most older bands just stick to the hits, a token song or two off whatever new album they're promoting, and call it a night after 1.5 hours.

I think the performances got better too. At least through the Clockwork Angels tour.  Last several weeks of R40 were pretty sweet too.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: Samsara on January 13, 2020, 08:20:40 AM

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.

I listened and watched R40 on Friday evening, had the iPod on shuffle in the car all weekend. Starting today with Fly By Night and going through Clockwork Angels, then onto all the boots I have.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: The Letter M on January 15, 2020, 08:19:41 AM

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.

I listened and watched R40 on Friday evening, had the iPod on shuffle in the car all weekend. Starting today with Fly By Night and going through Clockwork Angels, then onto all the boots I have.

I really need to watch R40 again, but I think as I go through my live albums, I'll watch the live videos as I come up through them chronologically. I'm near the end of my FBN Tour show right now, so it might take awhile for me to get to the first video (Exit...Stage Left), but it'll be a pretty immersive dive into Live Rush if I keep going in chronological order. I may have to pepper in the studio albums in-between the live ones, too, just to get the songs that they never played live (looking at you "The Fountain Of Lamneth"...).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Stadler on January 15, 2020, 08:30:43 AM
I spent the whole weekend working on my car, both days, so I had a rotation of CDs in the six-disk changer in the garage.  First day was SOA, Gov't Mule, and Neal Morse.  But second day was all Rush; at one point The Fountain of Lamneth came on and I caught myself just spacing out and connecting to the music.  I really like their first couple with Neil (you can have the debut).  I think the only song on FBN or COS I don't like is "I Think I'm Going Bald". 
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Architeuthis on January 15, 2020, 12:15:18 PM
I think the only song on FBN or COS I don't like is "I Think I'm Going Bald".
The truth hurts doesn't it!
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Stadler on January 15, 2020, 12:36:06 PM
I think the only song on FBN or COS I don't like is "I Think I'm Going Bald".
The truth hurts doesn't it!

HAHA!  It hits too close to home.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: Lupton on January 15, 2020, 06:14:18 PM
Sorry total newbie here and I apologize for butting in like this. I've been following this thread since the Tour of the Spheres. Many thanks to Nick for hosting these show!   :hefdaddy

So...I pulled down the GUP show only to find that it is actually really a superb soundboard recording from the Power Windows tour (4/16/86) .  So it looks like we got an album ahead. All good end results though....as I've normally just lurked and read on these forums, noticing this caused me to register and post here for the 1st time just so I could point this out. Any chance of hearing a show from the GUP tour? (I've always wanted to hear Kid Gloves live)

Anyway. Great thread and again many thanks to Nick for the shows. Soundboard recordings of Rush on ANY tour are a great thing to have!

^^ This is why I registered on this forum. All hail Nick!!

[edit: Still want to hear Kid Gloves Live!]

I believe 9/27/84 is your ticket for that.  And of course several other good shows from that tour.

Thanks ytserush. I checked out the 9/27 show plus the links you left earlier in the thread on page 5 -- at least the ones that still work.

I found the pre-GUP version of Kid Gloves that you mentioned from Radio City:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr0xBY6alZs

So strange to hear this after being so familiar with the studio recording as the arrangement and vocal melody are a little different.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: ytserush on January 17, 2020, 08:15:24 PM

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.
I listened and watched R40 on Friday evening, had the iPod on shuffle in the car all weekend. Starting today with Fly By Night and going through Clockwork Angels, then onto all the boots I have.

I really need to watch R40 again, but I think as I go through my live albums, I'll watch the live videos as I come up through them chronologically. I'm near the end of my FBN Tour show right now, so it might take awhile for me to get to the first video (Exit...Stage Left), but it'll be a pretty immersive dive into Live Rush if I keep going in chronological order. I may have to pepper in the studio albums in-between the live ones, too, just to get the songs that they never played live (looking at you "The Fountain Of Lamneth"...).

-Marc.


Wouldn't the 1976 Capitol Theater show come first? It's an official release now.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Grace Under Pressure Tour
Post by: ytserush on January 17, 2020, 08:19:36 PM
Sorry total newbie here and I apologize for butting in like this. I've been following this thread since the Tour of the Spheres. Many thanks to Nick for hosting these show!   :hefdaddy

So...I pulled down the GUP show only to find that it is actually really a superb soundboard recording from the Power Windows tour (4/16/86) .  So it looks like we got an album ahead. All good end results though....as I've normally just lurked and read on these forums, noticing this caused me to register and post here for the 1st time just so I could point this out. Any chance of hearing a show from the GUP tour? (I've always wanted to hear Kid Gloves live)

Anyway. Great thread and again many thanks to Nick for the shows. Soundboard recordings of Rush on ANY tour are a great thing to have!

^^ This is why I registered on this forum. All hail Nick!!

[edit: Still want to hear Kid Gloves Live!]

I believe 9/27/84 is your ticket for that.  And of course several other good shows from that tour.

Thanks ytserush. I checked out the 9/27 show plus the links you left earlier in the thread on page 5 -- at least the ones that still work.

I found the pre-GUP version of Kid Gloves that you mentioned from Radio City:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr0xBY6alZs

So strange to hear this after being so familiar with the studio recording as the arrangement and vocal melody are a little different.

Those pre-release versions can be a bit weird. Usually the solos are different and there are some slight changes in arrangement.
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: The Letter M on January 18, 2020, 06:12:43 PM

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.
I listened and watched R40 on Friday evening, had the iPod on shuffle in the car all weekend. Starting today with Fly By Night and going through Clockwork Angels, then onto all the boots I have.

I really need to watch R40 again, but I think as I go through my live albums, I'll watch the live videos as I come up through them chronologically. I'm near the end of my FBN Tour show right now, so it might take awhile for me to get to the first video (Exit...Stage Left), but it'll be a pretty immersive dive into Live Rush if I keep going in chronological order. I may have to pepper in the studio albums in-between the live ones, too, just to get the songs that they never played live (looking at you "The Fountain Of Lamneth"...).

-Marc.


Wouldn't the 1976 Capitol Theater show come first? It's an official release now.

That's a fair point. I was only considering the shows that were released not long after they were recorded (ESL, ASOH, RIR, etc.). I might have to watch this tonight since it's been awhile since I've seen it!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: DTA on January 19, 2020, 09:38:06 AM
Anyone have any setlist decisions Rush made that make you go "wtf?" The perpetual absence of Oracle from 2112 until the T4E tour always seemed like such a bizarre omission. It's like a 2-minute segment and they played the entire song every show through the Hemispheres tour so they definitely had time to include it. Also, the AFTK tour having Cinderella Man as an encore seems bizarre (same with Grand Designs on PoW too). I feel like they don't really fit in an encore even though they're great songs. 
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 19, 2020, 09:42:27 AM
How about Rush playing at a radio station when Neil first joined the band and the bridge and chorus for Fly By Night was reversed. 
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: KevShmev on January 19, 2020, 09:46:48 AM
Focusing on the tours I saw (1991-2015), One Little Victory being an encore on the S&A tour was a major WTF. 
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on January 19, 2020, 08:46:01 PM
Focusing on the tours I saw (1991-2015), One Little Victory being an encore on the S&A tour was a major WTF.
And from that same tour, having them open the whole show with Limelight.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: ytserush on January 24, 2020, 12:05:24 PM
If I have to sit through Limelight, it makes sense to me to get it out of the way first.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 24, 2020, 12:36:41 PM
If I have to sit through Limelight, it makes sense to me to get it out of the way first.

I liked that they opened with that and got it out of the way.

Edit: Wrong Tour....:facepalm:
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 24, 2020, 12:58:18 PM
I would think Limelight would be a fantastic opening track.

It's a much better opening track than The Big Money or Force 10.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Big Hath on January 24, 2020, 06:01:09 PM
I don't know, man.  The Big Money is a great opener in my view.  That huge chord coming in right after the Three Stooges theme and general high energy of the song makes it one of my favorites Rush concert openers.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: KevShmev on January 24, 2020, 06:04:45 PM
I thought Limelight was a great opener on the S&A tour, and if my memory serves me right, it was the first tour where the opening song was a song that wasn't track 1 on its original studio album.  My only beef with opening with Limelight is that it seemed like it was played a touch slower than normal, so it didn't quite have the live punch that it normally did.

The Big Money was an awesome opener, but of course I am biased in its favor since A Show of Hands was pretty much what got me into Rush, and it opening the set the way it did was key, and then of course Marathon, the second song, won me over for life.  :coolio
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 24, 2020, 06:18:26 PM
I didn't say Big Money sucked as an opener. I just said Limelight is better, but the pace can certainly hinder it.

I do think that Force 10 is a terrible opener.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 24, 2020, 06:23:11 PM
I still remember Grand Designs as an encore on the Power Windows tour. It was out of place.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 24, 2020, 06:25:19 PM
I still remember Grand Designs as an encore on the Power Windows tour. It was out of place.

Oh for sure.

But it would be out of place anywhere in the set.  :P
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 24, 2020, 06:26:32 PM
Lol. No.  It was fantastic on the CA tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Trav86 on January 24, 2020, 07:00:50 PM
Don’t forget “Red Lenses” during the encore on the Grace Under Pressure tour.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 24, 2020, 08:04:28 PM
Don’t forget “Red Lenses” during the encore on the Grace Under Pressure tour.

Oh I saw it live.  Fastway opened.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Architeuthis on January 25, 2020, 02:13:34 AM
 Finding My Way (the full version) would be a great opener!  :hat
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: Architeuthis on January 25, 2020, 02:22:32 AM

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.
I listened and watched R40 on Friday evening, had the iPod on shuffle in the car all weekend. Starting today with Fly By Night and going through Clockwork Angels, then onto all the boots I have.

I really need to watch R40 again, but I think as I go through my live albums, I'll watch the live videos as I come up through them chronologically. I'm near the end of my FBN Tour show right now, so it might take awhile for me to get to the first video (Exit...Stage Left), but it'll be a pretty immersive dive into Live Rush if I keep going in chronological order. I may have to pepper in the studio albums in-between the live ones, too, just to get the songs that they never played live (looking at you "The Fountain Of Lamneth"...).

-Marc.


Wouldn't the 1976 Capitol Theater show come first? It's an official release now.
Is this available as just the show, or do you have to order it with a box set or something?
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
Post by: The Letter M on January 25, 2020, 07:33:24 AM

I am planning on doing the same. I will get through the studio albums first, and then revisit some of my boots.
I listened and watched R40 on Friday evening, had the iPod on shuffle in the car all weekend. Starting today with Fly By Night and going through Clockwork Angels, then onto all the boots I have.

I really need to watch R40 again, but I think as I go through my live albums, I'll watch the live videos as I come up through them chronologically. I'm near the end of my FBN Tour show right now, so it might take awhile for me to get to the first video (Exit...Stage Left), but it'll be a pretty immersive dive into Live Rush if I keep going in chronological order. I may have to pepper in the studio albums in-between the live ones, too, just to get the songs that they never played live (looking at you "The Fountain Of Lamneth"...).

-Marc.


Wouldn't the 1976 Capitol Theater show come first? It's an official release now.
Is this available as just the show, or do you have to order it with a box set or something?

It was released in the 2112 40th Anniversary sets, as a DVD with the 2CD (and larger) edition(s).

I stumbled across it on YouTube the other day and watched it as I have not yet purchased any version of the 2112 40th Anniversary set. Definitely a treat to see such early Rush on a fairly well-captured live video, for its time.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Architeuthis on January 25, 2020, 11:22:32 AM
Thanks for the info,  this is a must have for me!
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Lupton on January 25, 2020, 04:06:23 PM
I didn't say Big Money sucked as an opener. I just said Limelight is better, but the pace can certainly hinder it.

I do think that Force 10 is a terrible opener.

Very 1st Rush show was the Presto tour. It was a life changing experience. Force 10 was the 1st cut they played. For the uninitiated it set the pace right from the start. I was with 2 other non-fans. All three of us were blown away. My very 1st Rush concert memory. Force Ten. Killer opener.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 25, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
Well, alright then! ;D
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Lupton on January 25, 2020, 04:51:03 PM
Well, alright then! ;D

All good man! Very rarely like to disagree with people's opinions, because they're all valid in my book. But that was one there was no way I could let go unchallenged, as it went back to the very core of my Rush indoctrination. Some very excellent bait (no way I could learn to resist!). Carry on good sir!  :hat
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2020, 07:28:57 PM
Tim is no good sir! :lol

Love you Tim.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 25, 2020, 07:52:36 PM
 :natalieportman: :natalieportman:
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2020, 08:13:18 PM
:natalieportman: :natalieportman:

I'm on top.

:king:  :kingshmeg:
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 25, 2020, 08:15:44 PM
:natalieportman: :natalieportman:

I'm on top.

That would make me dead then. :lol
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: KevShmev on January 25, 2020, 08:22:54 PM
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Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2020, 08:32:33 PM
:natalieportman: :natalieportman:

I'm on top.

That would make me dead then. :lol

Come on. I'd resuscitate you.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: TAC on January 25, 2020, 08:34:20 PM
Remind me to draw up a Do Not Resuscitate.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Big Hath on January 25, 2020, 08:43:28 PM
mouth to mouth
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: King Postwhore on January 25, 2020, 08:44:52 PM
I'd love to see the life slowly go from his eyes. Lol
Title: Re: Rush Live - The Tour Of The Hemispheres (Hemispheres Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on January 28, 2020, 09:57:26 PM
The Tour Of The Hemispheres began October 14, 1978, two weeks before the album Hemispheres was officially released, and ended on June 4, 1979, with nearly 9 months of solid touring taking them all over North America and Europe.

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Opening Bands: Max Webster, Ambrosia, April Wine, Golden Earring, Madcats, The Good Rats, Head East, Molly Hatchet, Pat Travers, Starz, Saxon, Wild Horses, UFO, Streetheart

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The setlist remained the same throughout this tour until "Circumstances" was dropped during the UK dates. In addition to "Circumstances", "Something for Nothing" and "Cygnus X-1" were dropped from the setlist for the remaining dates of the continental European tour. Rush closed the tour with a performance at the Pink Pop Festival where they played a unique ten song set.

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For my representation of this tour, I chose a whole show, and arguably the best Soundboard Bootleg of the whole tour, "A Desert Passage PE", from Tucson, AZ. Their first show there, but it's a complete setlist, with one substitution to fill in a cut during "Hemispheres", but otherwise, it's a great combination of completeness and sound quality.
Thanks to NICK for uploading the show:

www.nickeh.com/botm/rush1978-11-20.rar

Rush - Hemispheres Tour - 121:16
(Live In Tucson, AZ on 11/20/78)
(A Desert Passage PE - SBD)

Disc 1 - 69:00
 1. Intro          0:54
 2. Anthem            4:18
 3. A Passage To Bangkok      3:54
 4. By-Tor & The Snow Dog      5:20
 5. Xanadu           12:18
 6. Something for Nothing      4:30
 7. The Trees            4:39
 8. Cygnus X-1        10:45
 9. Hemispheres         18:58
10. Closer To The Heart      3:24

Disc 2 - 52:16
 1. Circumstances         4:37
 2. A Farewell To Kings      5:35
 3. La Villa Strangiato      10:05
 4. 2112            19:12
 5. Working Man         3:09
 6. Bastille Day         1:43
 7. In The Mood         2:41
 8. Drum Solo            5:14

NOTE - During the show, there was some of Geddy asking the audience to calm down as they were pushing against the stage. In my version, I edited out all of his banter to the audience about calming down, just to create a smoother show, so the track times are different above than the normally released show. Read more about it here: https://www.digitalrushexperience.com/database/review.php?RecordingID=31
   
For me, the Tour Of The Hemispheres was one of the band's greatest setlists (that is, until a COS Headliner show surfaces :lol ). They play ALL FOUR songs from their new album, most of their previous album (four songs from AFTK), the longest version of "2112" they've played to date (and what amounts to about half of the album 2112), and the rest of their best-of from their first three albums (despite COS's only representation being a snippet of "Bastille Day").

Also, once again, the song "Nights, Winters, Years" by Justin Hayward and John Lodge (of The Moody Blues) is used as the Intro Tape music before the band came on stage, and on this show, you can hear Neil and Alex 'warming up' over the track before they start the show. It's fun to hear Neil just rock out with some crazy drum fills!

The show begins with a truncated version of "Anthem" (with the 2nd verse missing), then moves to a rousing performance of "A Passage To Bangkok". Then we are treated to the wonderful medley of "By-Tor" and "Xanadu", followed by the closing track from 2112. Next comes an unstoppable run of songs that close out the first disc of the set with "The Trees" seguing into "Cygnus X-1", and "Hemispheres" seguing into "Closer To The Heart".

And speaking of segues, "A Farewell To Kings" goes right in to "La Villa Strangiato", and then the main show ends with one of my favorite recorded versions of "2112" (right up there with St. Louis '80, and of course, the one from Different Stages). The "Working Man Medley" continues to be the encore, and instead of including "Finding My Way" or "Fly By Night", a bit of "Bastille Day" makes an appearance, and of course, the show closes with The Professor on the Drum Kit.

If you've never heard a show from this tour, or this show in particular, GET IT. It's one of the best Rush ROIO's out there, and if I had to give anyone a few shows to start with collecting bootlegs, this would be one of them!

-Marc.

So I've recently been listening to this one again in my car during my commutes around town, to and from work, and it *always* impresses me. Such a crisp soundboard for its time, and the set list is amazing. The fact that this show features both books of Cygnus X-1, as well as Xanadu, LVS, AND 2112, it covers nearly all of the band's epics up to that point. I can only imagine how nuts a Hemispheres Tour would have been had they played a 3 hour show like they did in their 21st century tours.

Again, if you're a fan of live Rush, do yourself a favor and get a hold of this show, or any of the great boots from the Tour Of The Hemispheres, especially if you're a big fan of their pre-Permanent Waves material.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2020, 08:01:02 AM
I love that word "Hemisheres", and that may be my favorite name for a tour: "Tour Of The Hemispheres".  It works on about five different levels. 
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: ytserush on January 29, 2020, 07:04:19 PM
I love that word "Hemisheres", and that may be my favorite name for a tour: "Tour Of The Hemispheres".  It works on about five different levels.

Always loved the Semi-Tour of Some Of The Hemispheres myself.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: The Letter M on March 04, 2020, 10:58:13 AM
So I am nearing the final stretch of my Tourography re-listen binge, and I'm in the middle of Rush In Rio during my commutes around town. This was one of the first Rush CDs I ever got after getting into the band, and listening to this show again brings me back to those days of discovering them!

I also forgot just how HARD they rocked on this show, and how awesome the audience is. You can really feel their energy in the way they chant and sing along, especially to songs like YYZ and Tom Sawyer, and that one bit near the end of Natural Science.

I am tempted to go back and watch the Rush In Rio DVD sometime soon as well, as it is a landmark performance for the band, and a visual treat from what I remember. I recall watching that DVD many times when I was younger, and being glued to the screen during the concert and the documentary!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (AFTK REVISITED)
Post by: ytserush on March 14, 2020, 07:21:36 PM
So I am nearing the final stretch of my Tourography re-listen binge, and I'm in the middle of Rush In Rio during my commutes around town. This was one of the first Rush CDs I ever got after getting into the band, and listening to this show again brings me back to those days of discovering them!

I also forgot just how HARD they rocked on this show, and how awesome the audience is. You can really feel their energy in the way they chant and sing along, especially to songs like YYZ and Tom Sawyer, and that one bit near the end of Natural Science.

I am tempted to go back and watch the Rush In Rio DVD sometime soon as well, as it is a landmark performance for the band, and a visual treat from what I remember. I recall watching that DVD many times when I was younger, and being glued to the screen during the concert and the documentary!

-Marc.

I watch the DVD more often.  I did listen to the CDs for the first time in YEARS a few months back it was better than I remember it soundwise but to enjoy the whole experience the DVD is really special.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: The Letter M on April 19, 2022, 08:25:44 PM
It's been a couple of years, but Rush decided to gift us with a complete Moving Pictures Tour Live concert from two nights at the Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, March 24th and 25th from 1981, as part of their Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary releases earlier this month.

With that I figured we could revisit this Tour!

The Moving Pictures Tour started 12 days after the album's release, from February 19th, 1981 to July 5th. They only toured North America during these five months, but they would hit Europe on the next tour in support of their 2nd live album, Exit...Stage Left.

They toured with fewer opening bands, at least that I am aware of. According to Eric at the Power Windows website, they opened with FM, Max Webster, and Ian Hunter.

Live In YYZ 1981 - 118:57
(Live In Toronto, OT on 3/24-25/1981)
(From the Moving Pictures 40th Anniversary Edition)

Disc 1 - 61:31
01. 2112 – Overture
02. 2112 – The Temples Of Syrinx
03. Freewill
04. Limelight
05. Hemispheres – Prelude
06. Beneath, Between & Behind
07. The Camera Eye
08. YYZ
09. Broon’s Bane
10. The Trees
11. Xanadu

Disc 2 - 57:26
12. The Spirit Of Radio
13. Red Barchetta
14. Closer To The Heart
15. Tom Sawyer
16. Vital Signs
17. Natural Science
18. Medley: Working Man /
       Hemispheres – Armageddon /
       By-Tor & The Snow Dog /
       In The End /
       In The Mood /
       2112 – Grand Finale
19. La Villa Strangiato

I've listened to this show one and a half times now and so far, I'm really enjoying it. It's great to finally have a complete, professionally recorded and released complete MP Tour show. Makes me really wish they had done this for the PEW and HEMI anniversaries.

Highlights include all of the MP songs that they played (since "Witch Hunt" was not played live until the GUP Tour), plus "Natural Science" and the closing Medley. The band are really on fire for this hometown crowd and even if there are a few flubs or recording glitches here or there, it doesn't take away the power and fierceness of this album. Of course if you've been married to the ESL versions of these songs for a long time, you'll be able to spot the differences quite quickly but I think it's as enjoyable as ESL, if not more so given that it's a complete show.

Now to wait and see if we get a complete Signals Tour soundboard concert...

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: jammindude on April 19, 2022, 08:31:45 PM
Not all the MP songs. They don’t do Witch Hunt.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: The Letter M on April 19, 2022, 09:03:53 PM
Not all the MP songs. They don’t do Witch Hunt.

I meant all of the MP songs they played. Of course I know they didn't play "Witch Hunt". I shared the set list/track list after all!  ;)

I figured I didn't need to clarify since I was speaking within the context of the MP Tour itself, but I'll edit my post to make sure no one else makes that mistake.

-Marc.

Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: Stadler on April 21, 2022, 05:43:31 AM
... but Rush decided to gift us with a complete Moving Pictures Tour Live concert...

It's free? Where?
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: The Letter M on April 21, 2022, 08:25:16 AM
... but Rush decided to gift us with a complete Moving Pictures Tour Live concert...

It's free? Where?

Streaming and YouTube,of course!  ;)

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: DragonAttack on April 21, 2022, 01:06:17 PM
Thank you for the update. :tup

And, as I was looking for it, here is a Providence Civic Center audience recording from that May  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpvTJYHX2g

Sounds like a Dan Lambranski recording (he provided IMO the best Queen live concert one back in '78).  Regardless, it's an A+ recording.

note:  not sure if this show had been posted or not.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2022, 01:18:09 PM
Thank you for the update. :tup

And, as I was looking for it, here is a Providence Civic Center audience recording from that May https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpvTJYHX2g

Sounds like a Dan Lambranski recording (he provided IMO the best Queen live concert one back in '78)

I have that show on my iPod (and burned to CD), but another excellent show from that tour is Anaheim 6-12-81.


As far as Signals shows..I have London 5-21-83, which is pretty good. That opening drum fill to Digital Man  :metal
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: The Letter M on April 21, 2022, 02:22:17 PM
Thank you for the update. :tup

And, as I was looking for it, here is a Providence Civic Center audience recording from that May  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpvTJYHX2g

Sounds like a Dan Lambranski recording (he provided IMO the best Queen live concert one back in '78).  Regardless, it's an A+ recording.

note:  not sure if this show had been posted or not.

Hmmm I'll have to check that out later! And no problem, I'm just still ecstatic that the band decided to put out a complete MP Tour show after skimping on the past two box sets for Hemispheres and Permanent Waves (where I was really hoping they'd dig out the *complete* St. Louis show).

Thank you for the update. :tup

And, as I was looking for it, here is a Providence Civic Center audience recording from that May https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpvTJYHX2g

Sounds like a Dan Lambranski recording (he provided IMO the best Queen live concert one back in '78)

I have that show on my iPod (and burned to CD), but another excellent show from that tour is Anaheim 6-12-81.


As far as Signals shows..I have London 5-21-83, which is pretty good. That opening drum fill to Digital Man  :metal

Is that the "Countdown To London" show? I believe I've heard that one before, way back when I started collecting boots, but I gravitated towards the "Music In The Abstract" Uniondale, NY show from December 9th, 1982, mostly because it's one of the few complete shows that also includes "Chemistry". I just browsed Rush Trader (http://-http://www.rushtrader.com/signals.htm) to look at some of the better boots from that tour, and while the London show probably sounds a bit better (and is later in the tour), I just liked the Uniondale show a bit more (for completeness' sake).

Here's hoping we get a Signals Anniversary set with a complete live show, even if it doesn't have "Chemistry".

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2022, 02:25:45 PM

As far as Signals shows..I have London 5-21-83, which is pretty good. That opening drum fill to Digital Man  :metal

Is that the "Countdown To London" show?

Not sure. I downloaded most of my Rush boots from Dime years ago. I don't catalog them by title, only by city and date.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Moving Pictures Tour (REVISITED - Live In YYZ 1981)
Post by: ytserush on May 22, 2022, 07:18:17 PM
Thank you for the update. :tup

And, as I was looking for it, here is a Providence Civic Center audience recording from that May  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpvTJYHX2g

Sounds like a Dan Lambranski recording (he provided IMO the best Queen live concert one back in '78).  Regardless, it's an A+ recording.

note:  not sure if this show had been posted or not.

Have this on Rush show on cassette.  Never found an upgrade.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Permanent Waves Tour (REVISITED - World Tour)
Post by: The Letter M on April 17, 2023, 09:16:19 PM
So I just realized, as I have recently been on a big Rush-binge lately (which has been more and more rare as the years go by, despite them being my favorite band of all time), that I never really explored the "new" live material from the Permanent Waves 40th Anniversary release. It probably didn't help that I didn't buy it when it came out three years ago, but I never noticed that they put out nearly a whole show's worth of material from that tour.

They included 12 songs, and all that was missing was the opener, "2112",  the closing "Working Man" medley, and the encore of "La Villa Strangiato", all of which are available on the St. Louis 80 show that's been in circulation for decades, and is still a very pristine soundboard show (one of the best sounding Rush boots from the 80s). So, it dawned on me that if you have the 2nd disc of the 40th Anniversary set PLUS the St. Louis 80 show, you could cobble together a complete Permanent Waves Tour show:

Disc 1
1. 2112 (Live In St. Louis)
2. Freewill (Live In London)
3. By-Tor And The Snow Dog (Live In London)
4. Xanadu (Live In London)
5. The Spirit Of Radio (Live In Manchester)
6. Natural Science (Live In Manchester)
7. A Passage To Bangkok (Live In Manchester) (Only on the digital version)
8. The Trees (Live In Manchester)

Disc 2
1. Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage (Live In London)
2. Cygnus X-1, Book II: Hemispheres (Live In London)
3. Closer To The Heart (Live In Manchester)
4. Beneath, Between & Behind (Live In Manchester)
5. Jacob's Ladder (Live In St. Louis)
6. Working Man Medley (Live In St. Louis)
7. La Villa Strangiato (Live In St. Louis)

After getting the complete AFTK live show several years ago, and the complete Toronto 81 show last year in the MP box set, I'm now going to finally put together a complete PEW Tour show in full soundboard, and not the piece-meal version I've had for over a decade (which put together St. Louis 80, songs from Exit... Stage Left from the PEW Tour, and some from the Fort Worth, TX audience bootleg. It was a very mixed bag of a "complete tour album", but now I can remedy that.

A shame I can't do the same for the Signals Tour this year. I guess this might be the last time I update this thread, especially if they don't do any more anniversary releases that include live material from their respective tours. I'd *love* to get a complete soundboard of the Power Windows Tour, which was the last tour where I had to piece together from at least two shows to make an album (the Philadelphia Soundboard boot, and the Milwaukee Audience boot).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Permanent Waves Tour (REVISITED - World Tour 1980)
Post by: ytserush on June 18, 2023, 06:04:00 PM

Here's a few historical new additions.

The 8mm isn't new but it's been restored with audio and assigned a date and venue. Don't recall that this version of The Twilight Zone has ever surfaced.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O28KL0NoUI0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J2xIb4RLU8
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Permanent Waves Tour (REVISITED - World Tour 1980)
Post by: The Letter M on June 18, 2023, 08:30:06 PM

Here's a few historical new additions.

The 8mm isn't new but it's been restored with audio and assigned a date and venue. Don't recall that this version of The Twilight Zone has ever surfaced.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O28KL0NoUI0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J2xIb4RLU8

Thank you for sharing those! I feel like we've gotten so much early Rush audio and video in the past few years that I'm beginning to have hope we'll someday get a COS tour headlining show in full!  :lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: Rush Live Tourography - The Permanent Waves Tour (REVISITED - World Tour 1980)
Post by: ytserush on June 24, 2023, 12:11:01 PM

Here's a few historical new additions.

The 8mm isn't new but it's been restored with audio and assigned a date and venue. Don't recall that this version of The Twilight Zone has ever surfaced.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O28KL0NoUI0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J2xIb4RLU8

Thank you for sharing those! I feel like we've gotten so much early Rush audio and video in the past few years that I'm beginning to have hope we'll someday get a COS tour headlining show in full!  :lol

-Marc.

In this case the 8mm film with the All The World's a Stage was a master syncing job.  All The World's A Stage has been used before for 8mm but never this well. Nice to get a seemingly valid date as well.