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Title: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 17, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
Just started watching this show after several years of seeing bits and pieces while my brother watched it.  I'm about 6 episodes in and it's pretty good.   Sokka is funny, Katara plays the caring sister well, and Aang is still a mystery.  Why didn't he want to be the Avatar?  How does he control his bursts into "Avatar mode"? 

I like how we get to see developments within the Fire Nation, but still a lot of questions there too.  Why did they attack to begin with?  What's their endgame, besides simple domination?

I'm not asking these questions to be answered, as I hope they will be as I continue watching the show.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Sigz on September 17, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Yeah, my friend has been trying to get me into it, I'm like 6 or 7 episodes in. I've been enjoying it, but at this point I'm kinda just sticking it out because it gets much better from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 17, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
Same here.  It's good, but I'm waiting for it to move past the "kid show" stigma I've placed on it. 
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: jsem on September 17, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
I watched the entire series + the first season of Korra in about two weeks time, ending like two weeks ago. Looking forward to next season, though ATLA was miles better than Korra. The Korra storyline was too fast paced, and the comic relief was just bleh compared to how Sokka was.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Chino on September 17, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
I got excited when I saw the first bit of the thread title... then  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Kotowboy on September 17, 2012, 02:01:40 PM
James cameron's Avatar is a lot better than M Night Shy-ama-lama-dong-dong's Avatar movie from what I gather :D
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: rumborak on September 17, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
The whole series is soooo awesome. Went on a watching binge when I had my wisdom teeth removed. Sadly though also in the top 10 of "worst movie adaptations ever".
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Marion Crane on September 17, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
Honestly?  Greatest show/story ever IMO.  I've got the Fire and Water nation symbols inked on my back, and I'm naming my daughter Kitara :metal
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: rumborak on September 17, 2012, 02:06:58 PM
That .... might be pushing it.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Marion Crane on September 17, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
Just make it through the "Blue Spirit" episode.......you'll be hooked after that
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Marion Crane on September 17, 2012, 02:08:25 PM
That .... might be pushing it.


Not really
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 17, 2012, 02:27:06 PM
The whole series is soooo awesome. Went on a watching binge when I had my wisdom teeth removed. Sadly though also in the top 10 of "worst movie adaptations ever".

Fortunately, I have not seen the movie.  M. Night Shamalamadingdong was reason enough for me to skip it.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: rumborak on September 17, 2012, 02:35:36 PM
I saw it on a plane, so at least I didn't pay money for it directly.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Heretic on September 17, 2012, 04:00:45 PM
Seasons 2 and 3 are absolutely fantastic in every way ever. So keep watching, it gets so amazing. Best show that's ever been on Nick for me.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 17, 2012, 04:56:22 PM
This show is one of my favorites. Season 2 is absolutely amazing! My hands still shake and sweat when I watch the finale. It's really great to see the characters really grow throughout the series. You really grow attached to them.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 17, 2012, 05:20:52 PM
I can't say enough good things about this show. It's a masterpiece.

Honestly?  Greatest show/story ever IMO.  I've got the Fire and Water nation symbols inked on my back, and I'm naming my daughter Kitara :metal

No offense man, but....if you're gonna name your daughter after a fictional character, you should probably spell it right. :-\

Go for it though. Katara is a pretty name.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 17, 2012, 05:27:59 PM
I watched the entire series + the first season of Korra in about two weeks time, ending like two weeks ago. Looking forward to next season, though ATLA was miles better than Korra. The Korra storyline was too fast paced, and the comic relief was just bleh compared to how Sokka was.

I understand the complaint about the pacing, but keep in mind that when they were making it, they thought they only had 12 episodes to work with. They had to wrap things up quickly. It wasn't until later that Nick ordered new seasons.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 17, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
I assume that when the next Korra book airs, we can use this thread to discuss it? (yes, yes, statement with a question mark)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 17, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
Just for fun, here's some pictures from A-Fest in Dallas.


My friend (cosplaying as Mako from Legend of Korra) with the Fire Nation:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/551806_10151224013997619_417739762_n.jpg)


My friend with Toph:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/423776_10151224014472619_1806729884_n.jpg)


Aang lol:

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s720x720/260038_10151224635182619_661715863_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 17, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
More cosplayers! Awesome!
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: toro on September 17, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
S2 is the best them.

From "The Library" to the "Crossroads of Destiny" it's pure fucking win. S2 is among the best tv ever.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 17, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
More cosplayers! Awesome!

Here's a bunch more, check it out. (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.221476754646513.50053.100003525695865&type=1)

Funny story about the first pic. Right after it was taken, we heard someone yell out "FIRE NATION SUCKS!" We turned around to see 5 or 6 Korras and Kataras staring them down, in a fighting stance. It was so fucking awesome. :lol
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Heretic on September 17, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
The Library is an absolute masterpiece.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Nel on September 17, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
Season 2 is fantastic, Season 1 is great in its own right, Season 3 has a really dragging first half and a really good second half.

Korra Season 1 is great too... except the finale. I thought it was perfect until that damned finale.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 17, 2012, 06:06:55 PM
I don't think Amon is really dead.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: toro on September 17, 2012, 06:12:39 PM
Season 2 is fantastic, Season 1 is great in its own right, Season 3 has a really dragging first half and a really good second half.

Korra Season 1 is great too... except the finale. I thought it was perfect until that damned finale.
*SPOILERS AHEAD*

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It was great until after Noatak and Tarrlock murder/suicide I didn't like how Korra got her powers back. S2 should have started with her looking how to get them back.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Nel on September 17, 2012, 06:37:08 PM
Season 2 is fantastic, Season 1 is great in its own right, Season 3 has a really dragging first half and a really good second half.

Korra Season 1 is great too... except the finale. I thought it was perfect until that damned finale.
*SPOILERS AHEAD*

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It was great until after Noatak and Tarrlock murder/suicide I didn't like how Korra got her powers back. S2 should have started with her looking how to get them back.

Same here. That and I thought they spent waaaay too much time focusing on a character that had only just been introduced an episode before. You want to focus on a new character, that's fine, but not during the freaking finale! And the whole final "battle" was just kind of underwhelming.

And Gadough, as much as I like the villain, I don't think I'd like that. That final scene with those two was just perfect.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: jsem on September 19, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
I watched the entire series + the first season of Korra in about two weeks time, ending like two weeks ago. Looking forward to next season, though ATLA was miles better than Korra. The Korra storyline was too fast paced, and the comic relief was just bleh compared to how Sokka was.

I understand the complaint about the pacing, but keep in mind that when they were making it, they thought they only had 12 episodes to work with. They had to wrap things up quickly. It wasn't until later that Nick ordered new seasons.
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In a way, I can sympathize with this. But it doesn't change the facts from the ground. I mean, FII would have been better had it not been geared towards mainstream audiences, but I'm judging the creation out of how it turned out, not how it might have been had it gotten their way. It's a shame though. Still, they have a ton of episodes to work with to turn this series good in the totality of it.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Hyperplex on September 19, 2012, 03:28:55 PM
I fucking love this series and the character development. There was a lot of thought put into each of the characters and their backstories, as well as their allegiances.

As for Korra vs. ATLA, I tried to look at it differently; they couldn't possibly recreate the same mystique and epic story the second time around. There are elements I liked and elements I didn't, but overall I found it rather enjoyable. It was nice to see the characters be a little older in this go round.

I've seen ATLA all the way through at least a dozen times and have loved it each time.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Hyperplex on September 19, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
As for the finale of Korra S1, I was torn between the finality of it and the maturation that takes place. Without going into spoilers, I think it was the perfect time for that resolution to occur. If I hadn't known there would be a second season, I would have thought it very appropriate. Now I'm just more curious as to how the saga will continue.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 20, 2012, 09:05:56 PM
Just finished Season 1.  I'm man enough to admit I teared up.  :'(
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 20, 2012, 09:20:03 PM
Good! But that sad is nothing compared to the saddest parts in season 2. I haven't watched the series in like a year. I should watch it again.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Sketchy on September 21, 2012, 03:28:08 AM
I keep being told I need to watch this, so at some point, I shall watch this.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 21, 2012, 06:11:03 AM
I love how it's slowly beginning.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 21, 2012, 10:37:06 AM
That's a good point. The first bunch of episodes feel like normal episodic cartoon filler. It let's us get to know and become attached to the characters before any huge developments start.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: skydivingninja on September 21, 2012, 05:35:31 PM
I agree that the first season is a bit more of a "kids show."  Bit simplistic and not the most interesting writing in the world.  Once they reach the water nation, I think, is when the show really starts to take off, and becomes a masterpiece once Toph is introduced. 
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Super Dude on September 21, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
Watched the series from beginning to end this past April. Oh, what a wonderful show. Avatar gets really good midway through the second season, right around the part where they're on their way to Ba Sing Se.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: jsem on September 22, 2012, 12:20:12 PM
Yup. That's when the show evolves to social commentary as well.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Marion Crane on September 22, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
I can't say enough good things about this show. It's a masterpiece.

Honestly?  Greatest show/story ever IMO.  I've got the Fire and Water nation symbols inked on my back, and I'm naming my daughter Kitara :metal

No offense man, but....if you're gonna name your daughter after a fictional character, you should probably spell it right. :-\

Go for it though. Katara is a pretty name.

Oh I know how to spell it.  We're gonna change it to Kitara because we don't want people calling her "Kat" for short. 
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Super Dude on September 22, 2012, 04:46:32 PM
So instead...Kit?
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Marion Crane on September 22, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
People are more likely to shorten a name that begins with Kat to Kat. Katie, Katrina, Katherine. I doubt people would to the same with Kitara. Plus, it'll be a little more acceptable than Toph :)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 23, 2012, 05:04:52 AM
Gotcha. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: BlackInk on September 23, 2012, 05:36:58 AM
The Last Airbender is a great show, I've watched it all the way through several times. I agree, the first season is a bit "kids-show" and it's the second and third season that is really great.

Korra was pretty good too, but not as good as The Last Airbender. What made Korra great at first was Amon, that guy was just the coolest, most mysterious, most bad-ass character ever. Though how he turned out wasn't as cool as the rest of his stuff, but it was still solid stuff.

The movie sucked. I was excited and waited for almost two years and it just turned out slow, dull and just awful. Amateurish actors and awkward scripts and dialogue.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 23, 2012, 10:29:04 AM
Let's never mention the movie again.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: BlackInk on September 24, 2012, 05:16:40 AM
Let's never mention the movie again.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 24, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
The movie was pretty good; I don't understand all the hate for it. M. Night Shyamalan did a good job.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 24, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 24, 2012, 08:33:50 PM
Go away.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 24, 2012, 08:38:19 PM
My friend and I watched it recently to see how bad it was. We intended to watch the whole thing.

When they mispronounced Agni Kai, that was it. We couldn't continue.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 24, 2012, 08:44:26 PM
I saw it at midnight.

I still remember how everyone's hopes in the fandom fell. The day before the release when the critics saw, it had a 0% on rotten tomatoes. People were desperately trying to remain optimistic, but it wasn't enough. My mind is screaming "WHY?" at every line of dialogue, every moment, every decision that was made in the movie. It's completely baffling. I just don't understand.

I kept saying I was going to make a review, but I feel like everything has already been said.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Scrub206 on September 24, 2012, 08:53:15 PM
Avatar: The Last Airbender was AMAZING. (the show). oh man this thread makes me want to watch it again xD
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Heretic on September 24, 2012, 09:09:23 PM
Just watched "The Avatar and the Firelord." Flawless episode. Always loved the history segments of the show, what a vast world. They could do another show in the future of things that happened before Aang and I'd still be happy.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 24, 2012, 09:11:27 PM
Great episode. That's another thing M. Night completely ruined. Apparently the Avatar can't have a family? So then Zuko isn't related to Roku. So that ruins the whole fate connection that Zuko and Aang have. I don't understand???

It's like he used the Star Wars prequels as his model.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 24, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
It's like he used the Star Wars prequels as his model.

Speaking of which, I REALLY want RedLetterMedia to review The Last Airbender movie.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 24, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
I'm not sure they'd be the best to do it since they probably haven't watched the series, but it'd be good. I'm addicted to Half in the Bag now.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 25, 2012, 01:42:13 AM
Well I just plowed through this series in a week!  Just finished the finale and wow, that was an awesome ride.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Super Dude on September 25, 2012, 05:37:31 AM
Great episode. That's another thing M. Night completely ruined. Apparently the Avatar can't have a family? So then Zuko isn't related to Roku. So that ruins the whole fate connection that Zuko and Aang have. I don't understand???

It's like he used the Star Wars prequels as his model.

Maybe he did. A frightening prospect, but they made money.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: BlackInk on September 25, 2012, 09:20:38 AM
When they mispronounced Agni Kai, that was it. We couldn't continue.
And they really emphasized it too, like they wanted to rub it in peoples faces. "agni kIIIII duel"

Just watched "The Avatar and the Firelord." Flawless episode. Always loved the history segments of the show, what a vast world. They could do another show in the future of things that happened before Aang and I'd still be happy.

I love the part Roku is told he's the Avatar and everone bows, even Sozin the fireprince. That is an epic moment.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Hyperplex on September 25, 2012, 12:42:03 PM
When they mispronounced Agni Kai, that was it. We couldn't continue.

I saw a making of deal on Nickelodeon before its release where they interviewed the actors and M. Night Shyamalamadingdong about the movie. Points that stood out:

MNS saying:

- I'm Asian, so of course I had to change the pronunciation of some of the names to be correct. I just had to. For example, Sokka would have to be pronounced Soh-ka and Aang HAS to be pronounced AH-ng.

- I always hated how everyone needed an element present to bend it but Firebenders didn't. They could just conjure fire. So I just changed it. Now they have to hurl burning things and then bend the existing fire.

- I was so happy to find (the kid who played Aang). He's not an actor, he actually sent in his reel via the internet and I picked him without even seeing him in person!

Never before have I wanted to feed a gentleman his severed nuts so badly. (Okay, a bit hyperbolic, but you still get the idea.)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: theliloutkast on September 25, 2012, 12:52:37 PM
I own all three books and uh, I have all of the first season of LoK. It's easily in my top five greatest shows.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Implode on September 25, 2012, 02:45:16 PM
- I'm Asian, so of course I had to change the pronunciation of some of the names to be correct. I just had to. For example, Sokka would have to be pronounced Soh-ka and Aang HAS to be pronounced AH-ng.

Right, But Agni Kai....It's KAI. There's no excuse. That word has meaning. You can't just change it willy nilly like the pronunciation of a name.

- I was so happy to find (the kid who played Aang). He's not an actor, he actually sent in his reel via the internet and I picked him without even seeing him in person!

If you go by that footage Noah sent in alone, he looked great for the role. He was happy, young, and he acted just like Aang. But in the movie, it's like M. Night gave him the direction to just act moody and sad most of the time.  :\

In other news Grey DeLisle got a Tumblr recently, so she and Dante Basco have exchanged some conversation in character. She asked him to "Tumblr Prom."  :lol  https://www.vocaltwit.com/4595
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Gadough on September 25, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
Well I just plowed through this series in a week!  Just finished the finale and wow, that was an awesome ride.  :hefdaddy

Sozin's Comet. An incredible finale. :metal

You know what to do now...

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Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 25, 2012, 04:54:36 PM
Well I just plowed through this series in a week!  Just finished the finale and wow, that was an awesome ride.  :hefdaddy

Sozin's Comet. An incredible finale. :metal

You know what to do now...

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Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Hyperplex on September 26, 2012, 06:49:49 AM
Well I just plowed through this series in a week!  Just finished the finale and wow, that was an awesome ride.  :hefdaddy

Wasn't the ending a little bit like LOTR? The ceremony I mean. ;)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: BlackInk on September 26, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Wasn't the ending a little bit like LOTR? The ceremony I mean. ;)

Perhaps... But it's still great.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: Hyperplex on September 26, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
I wasn't complaining, just noting the parallel. Great series.

You might want to note spoiler, though, for those who haven't gotten to the end.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Post by: BlackInk on September 27, 2012, 09:19:31 AM
Oh, right... Really sorry if someone who hadn't gotten to the end got spoiled by that..
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Fiery Winds on October 04, 2012, 01:02:50 AM
And first season of LoK finished.  Took an episode or two to get used to the changes from Avatar, but once I did, it was fine.  Could have definitely used a full season instead of only 12 episodes.  So much more character development could (and should) have been done.  The ending was way to neat, resolving everything too quickly.  Hopefully when they move to Book 2, they'll slow things down a bit.  Still, it was an enjoyable season.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Super Dude on October 04, 2012, 05:58:35 AM
Relevant:

(https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/345/310/69b.jpg)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: jsem on October 05, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
:rollin
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Super Dude on October 05, 2012, 02:38:59 PM
I realize it's not totally fair, considering most of Team Avatar's character development took place in the second season, but still.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Fiery Winds on October 05, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
Some are a stretch, and some are just wrong, like Korra.  But that just highlights the issue of resolving too quickly in the last two minutes.

I never really hated Mako at the end, as it made a lot of sense.  I actually liked him more at the end than the beginning.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Heretic on October 05, 2012, 03:56:36 PM
I think we're all forgetting the best Korra character, General Iroh.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Gadough on October 05, 2012, 11:13:31 PM
I think we're all forgetting the best Korra character, General Iroh.

My friend would agree. He wants to cosplay as him next year.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Heretic on October 05, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
I think we're all forgetting the best Korra character, General Iroh.

My friend would agree. He wants to cosplay as him next year.

heck yeah. I hope Iroh gets used a lot more in season 2.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Nel on October 06, 2012, 12:40:34 AM
I think we're all forgetting the best Korra character, General Iroh.

He helped wreck the finale by having waaay too much screen time. Guy is an interesting one, and I'd definitely love to see more of him in the future, but I still think the way they used him as basically a stand in Zuko was annoying. I mean, we had so much to cover in that finale, and we spent a lot of time just watching a new character in action sequences. Granted, those scenes were cool, but it still irked me.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: BlackInk on October 06, 2012, 02:00:19 AM
heck yeah. I hope Iroh gets used a lot more in season 2.

And Bumi.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Super Dude on October 13, 2012, 09:03:22 AM
So apparently the second season is called Spirits and it's going to have 14 episodes.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Implode on October 13, 2012, 10:53:27 AM
I'm looking forward to it! Now they have the opportunity to take things more slowly.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: theliloutkast on October 13, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
I thought it was originally approved for 20 episodes?
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Super Dude on October 13, 2012, 12:38:36 PM
I'm just going off of what it says on Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Nel on October 13, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
From my understanding, season 2 is 14 episodes, and seasons 3 and 4 are 13 episodes each.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: BlackInk on October 20, 2012, 09:48:10 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/15/BUH6qDtPgUq0Gctqjsrk0A2.gif)
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: theliloutkast on October 20, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Please, I need the source. That's genius.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: XJDenton on October 20, 2012, 10:06:35 AM
The last air bender is fantastic from start to finish. Korra less so, but I think the problem with Korra is it tried to be both a self contained series while open enough to continue on for multiple series, and ended up being a bit unfocused and rushed in the end. The characters all have great potential though so I'm looking forward to where they go with the next series. The animation was gorgeous too.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: ReaPsTA on October 20, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
I'm surprised that people are as down on the ending for Korra was they are.  Is it perfect?  No.  But the point is pretty clear.  The first season of the show is about Korra struggling with her sense of identity.  And the ending resolves that nicely.

I also believe this theory to be 100% true (https://www.avclub.com/articles/skeletons-in-the-closetendgame,81693/):

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Korra vs. her spiritual block / Korra vs. lack of identity outside of Avatar
Resolution: Highly satisfying, if you read it this one particular way

At first, I had “not so much” written down for resolution on both of these, as there isn’t a ton of obvious cause-and-effect in why Aang showed up like a god from the machine to restore Korra’s bending—other than the lame excuse of “You looked sad.”

But watching the end again, this way of reading the last five minutes popped into my head, and it makes more and more sense the more I think about it. Korra’s lack of identity and her block were actually the same thing, and they’re both resolved in a kind of great under-the-censor’s-radar way.
Korra’s just found out the best healer in the world can’t do anything for her. Her last hope to hang onto the identity she’s had since childhood is gone. Mako tells her he loves her; she tells him to go away, that she’s “not the Avatar anymore.” Her misery calls back to the dream she had in “The Voice In The Night,” where her own subconscious—dressed as scary Amon—tells her “Once I take your bending away, you will be nothing.” Korra goes out to a cliff, and walks up to the very, very edge—she’s close enough that from her looking-down POV we see a tear actually falling all the way down the side of the cliff, which means her head is leaning out over the drop.

I can’t think of a reason to use that specific shot unless it’s to imply that she went up there to throw herself off the cliff.
Supporting this theory: When she pulls back, sits down, decides to keep living as a person who isn’t inherently special, and starts thinking for real about what that means—that’s the instant Aang finally shows up to declare “You have finally connected with your spiritual self!” This all feels like fan-wanking, but the alternate explanation seems to be “He showed up then because she was… continuing to be sad? And that continuing sadness somehow resolved her spiritual block?” That’s unsatisfying, unearned, and also doesn’t really make a lot of sense. The more I think about the oddness of that POV shot, Aang’s timing, and, most importantly, how not okay Nickelodeon would be with showing a hero contemplating suicide, the more sense it makes to consider the final-final battle of the season as completely internal—and pretty damn dark.

Since Avatar: The Last Airbender ended its second season with its heroes getting schooled and running away, it didn’t seem obvious that the writers would end Korra’s first season on an up or down note. It’s almost greedy to go for an ending with both the “Whoa!” of The Empire Strikes Back and the “Yay!” of Star Wars. It’s also risky, as that sort of “J/K, they’re fine,” can feel unearned and detract from the weight of what came before; further, people try it often enough that it’s usually pretty easy to see right through the Empire Strikes Back ending. The Legend Of Korra handled the switcheroo ending about as well as you can: I found it plausible that the writers would leave her de-powered going into the second season; and, if you read that scene on the cliff as a big deal, Korra and Lin getting their powers back feels earned.

This might seem ridiculous, until you remember that this happens only a few minutes after the boat scene, which is one of the darkest scenes I've seen in anything period.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: theliloutkast on October 20, 2012, 11:09:36 AM
I like that theory, the one I always had was this:

When she surrendered all hope, and stooped to the deepest and darkest pits of despair she let go of the world. As in, contemplating suicide. (I had the same thought as the guy in the theory). When she did that, by abandoning the world, she unlocked her chakra of mind and entered the spiritual realm of the Avatar state.

Also, I'm curious to why Katara didn't try bloodbending Korra to see if she could reverse Amon's technique.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Super Dude on October 20, 2012, 11:26:37 AM
Very interesting, the suicide thing somehow never occurred to me. Maybe 'cause it's a kid's show, but we've obviously been surprised before, even in that episode.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: TioJorge on October 20, 2012, 11:57:44 AM
That makes perfect sense, and it didn't occur to me either for that very specific reason; and a good one at that, as Nick would never allow even a hint at such a topic-point. However, artwork does tell a story unto it's own and that does make absolute perfect sense (it helps I literally just finished re-watching the series before reading this) that she contemplated not living a life of normalcy, being the blood of the Avatar. It was beautiful and I'm really glad I read that, it packs a punch, emotionally. I really loved the style and story of the series, but like many others, had a problem with the development of the characters and the neck-break pace of the show towards the middle-end of the season. However, given that they've greenlit another 'book', I'm very excited to see where this goes. Hopefully it won't feel as rushed or sprint towards the end because this first season definitely felt like it was meant to be it, albeit unfinished and kind of a 'well, we'll see where this goes', but it pretty much wrapped everything up. 'Spirits', the second book, should be exciting, as she's clearly got issues there.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Gadough on October 20, 2012, 05:49:29 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/15/BUH6qDtPgUq0Gctqjsrk0A2.gif)

Win.

Very interesting, the suicide thing somehow never occurred to me. Maybe 'cause it's a kid's show, but we've obviously been surprised before, even in that episode.

I think Nickelodeon is aware of the show's adult fanbase, so they can throw in some adult themes without making them overt.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Super Dude on October 20, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
I'm sure they are; I meant I simply had never thought about it because of its predominantly being marketed toward children.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Heretic on October 20, 2012, 07:50:50 PM
Yeah there's definitely adult overtones in both series.

Watched the last few episodes where Aang battles the Fire Lord today. Such fantastic TV and as an artist, I look at the art and animation in those episodes and it just blows me away.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on June 05, 2015, 03:50:45 PM
Whoa necrobump!

Anyway I recently watched both shows, and really enjoyed them both, although A:TLA is the superior show. Toph is my favorite character.

Appreciate!
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on June 05, 2015, 05:29:08 PM
Didn't even know there was a thread for this. :lol

I really enjoyed the hell out of both series, more so out of TLA. The animation only got better as the series progressed, and in Korra, its absolutely fantastic.

Favorite character? Zuko. Not the most original choice but he's, IMO, the most well-written character in the series.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 05, 2015, 05:43:30 PM
I just watched this.

I LOVED IT. Such a refreshing series.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: BlackInk on June 06, 2015, 01:32:25 AM
Didn't even know there was a thread for this. :lol

This, haha.

I love The Last Airbender show, it's absolutely wonderful. I've seen it 3 times I think, and some of the moments still hits me just as hard as they did the first time. Zuko confronting his father during the eclipse, Zuko and Azula's final agni kai, Sokka and Toph's "I think this is the end" moment on the airship, the final scene of the show. And that's just season 3!

Korra was good, but it just doesn't get as good as TLA. I think Amon was the coolest shit ever, until they sort of ruined him in the season 1 finale. Season 2 was the worst season for me, and had the worst animation since another studio stepped in to help. But both season 3 and 4 were great, especially Kuvira and her story. And I thought the final moment of the show was great, though I wished Nickelodeon would have had the balls to do the whole scene that the writers had intended.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 18, 2018, 12:17:37 PM
Netflix is bringing Avatar back as a live action series. It will be helmed by the actual creators Michael DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko. That makes all the difference here and ignites my excitement. Only those 2 should be handling this.

Speaking about the new series, Bryan Konietzko and Michael DiMartino had this to say.

    "We're thrilled for the opportunity to helm this live-action adaptation of Avatar: The Last Airbender. We can't wait to realize Aang's world as cinematically as we always imagined it to be, and with a culturally appropriate, non-whitewashed cast. It's a once-in-a-lifetime chance to build upon everyone's great work on the original animated series and go even deeper into the characters, story, action, and world-building. Netflix is wholly dedicated to manifesting our vision for this retelling, and we're incredibly grateful to be partnering with them."


https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/avatar-the-last-airbender/276369/avatar-live-action-tv-series-coming-from-netflix
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 18, 2018, 12:49:28 PM
Yay...it being a series makes all the difference as well. I wouldn't mind an hour episode ssries, if they go deep into the characters stories more.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 22, 2018, 03:31:27 AM
I guess it's just us who is excited...

I hope this will live up to the hype they brought on.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: max_security on September 22, 2018, 06:07:59 AM
Long time Avatar TLA fan here as well. I wish the follow up ( Korra ) would have went the other way in time like back to Roku or further. But I would be happy with anything from that animation team , the original show was brilliant.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 24, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
I lost a lot of hope and interest when Konietzko and DiMartino quit. Was not intending on watching this after that, but I admit, the trailer looks good.

https://youtu.be/ByAn8DF8Ykk?si=vcX1MvDbMJ663Ox8
Title: yes, i realize that 'money' is the answer to all those questions
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 26, 2024, 05:55:23 PM
I'll probably watch this at some point, but at the same time I just have to wonder... why? The original show is basically perfect, and it's built perfectly around its medium. No matter how good the bending special effects are, they're never going to surpass the animated version. Why bother making a TV show of something that was already a TV show? Why is live action the ultimate endstate for any piece of media? Is this just to cater to the morons who don't watch anything animated because it's 'for kids'? Because they're, you know, morons.

I just don't understand it.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: BlackInk on January 28, 2024, 09:52:32 AM
Finding myself really looking forward to this one. Don't know if it'll be good or not, but I'm really interested to see what they do with it.
Title: Re: yes, i realize that 'money' is the answer to all those questions
Post by: ZirconBlue on January 29, 2024, 12:47:47 PM
I'll probably watch this at some point, but at the same time I just have to wonder... why? The original show is basically perfect, and it's built perfectly around its medium. No matter how good the bending special effects are, they're never going to surpass the animated version. Why bother making a TV show of something that was already a TV show? Why is live action the ultimate endstate for any piece of media? Is this just to cater to the morons who don't watch anything animated because it's 'for kids'? Because they're, you know, morons.

I just don't understand it.


As a rule, there's a bigger (potential) audience for live-action than animated stuff. 
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 29, 2024, 08:57:29 PM
Yeah, but I called those people morons. I don't want shows made for them. :lol
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: ZirconBlue on January 30, 2024, 10:20:47 AM
Yeah, but I called those people morons. I don't want shows made for them. :lol


You can look down your nose at . . . most of the Western world, and consider yourself superior to those "morons".  Or you can come to terms with the fact that not everyone likes the same thing.  Personally, I really liked the animated series, but generally prefer live action. 
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 24, 2024, 12:18:22 PM
Who has all watched the new live series?

I am halfway through the season and I think it's good. What I like about this series is the "realness" of it. I never expected this to be an exact carbon copy of the Anime, so I am not upset that some things were cut or changed to better fit the narrative and "realness" of the show. I consider the changes quite similar to a book being adapted into a live action movie, such as how much was changed from the book to the film "Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory" with Gene Wilder. One great change I enjoy is the effects of fire bending, specifically how they burn people, like what a real fire would actually do, a great example of what I mean by the "realness" the live action portrays.

I can't wait for season two.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: lonestar on February 24, 2024, 02:07:16 PM
Two episodes in, really enjoying this show.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: lonestar on February 25, 2024, 06:54:06 PM
Finished it today, that final episode was outstanding, can't wait to see where they take this. Does it follow the animated show closely?
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: BlackInk on February 27, 2024, 09:05:56 AM
Finished it the other day. I liked it, it was a fun and good time. As a fan of the original show, there was plenty of stuff to like, and some decisions that I question, but nothing that took away my ability to enjoy the show. Some changes they made were actual improvements in my opinion, like making Omashu more of a location we are meant to connect to and care about, and the story of Zuko's crew being the people he saved from being sacrificed. That was a brilliant twist on that story from the og show.

Speaking of Zuko, he was the character I was most worried about, as he is probably the most important character to get right. I was really happy to see that they actually did get him right. He feels like Zuko, the character beats are there and they mostly work really well. They set the stage nicely for his arch in the next seasons.

Also, loved Azula. Glad we got to see more of her in the first seasons.

Finished it today, that final episode was outstanding, can't wait to see where they take this. Does it follow the animated show closely?

I thought it followed it surprisingly close. Obviously they had to shift some stuff around and cut certain plotlines because they only have 8 episodes instead of 20, but the cut stuff is mostly side quests in the og show that don't really affect the overall plot of the show too much. There are some exceptions of course, where the show does it's own thing, but nothing too big.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: lonestar on February 27, 2024, 10:20:21 AM
I loved the reveal with Zuko's crew, such a great emotional moment.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: faizoff on February 27, 2024, 10:32:31 AM
I'm debating on starting with the anime show first or the live action one. I don't expect the live action one to be a carbon copy of the original, I just want it to be entertaining. There's a lot of reverence for the original and the fact that the new show isn't being treated as hot garbage as the movie is a good sign.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: lonestar on February 27, 2024, 10:37:20 AM
I'm debating on starting with the anime show first or the live action one. I don't expect the live action one to be a carbon copy of the original, I just want it to be entertaining. There's a lot of reverence for the original and the fact that the new show isn't being treated as hot garbage as the movie is a good sign.

My only previous experience was with the movie, and the new series is vastly superior.
Title: Re: Avatar: The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra
Post by: gzarruk on February 27, 2024, 10:59:22 AM
I'm only two episodes in and I'm enjoying it so far, specially for someone like me, who grew up watching the animated series. If you were to ask me, I'd say work your way around the original animated series (not Korra), and then dive into the live action series. That way you can be familiar with the whole thing and catch on the little nuances they might have taken or changed from the original. I never bothered to watch the movie, so can't comment on that, but apparently it was a big mess.